[0:02] Everyone at it being 7:30 on Tuesday, [0:05] September 15, 2026, let's begin our town [0:08] council meeting. Would ask everyone who [0:10] can to please stand for the pledge of [0:12] allegiance. [0:14] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [0:16] United States of America and to the [0:19] republic for which it stands, one nation [0:22] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:26] justice for all. ask you to please [0:28] remain standing for our moment of [0:30] silence for all those serving in our [0:32] military at home and abroad and for [0:34] their families. [0:44] » Thank you. I'd ask the clerk to call the [0:46] role, please. [0:51] » Councelor Berica [0:52] >> here. [0:53] >> Councelor Dudi [0:54] >> here. Councelor Flareity [0:56] >> here. [0:58] >> Councelor Meglio [0:59] >> here. [1:00] >> Council Morren [1:01] >> here. [1:02] >> Councelor Quilty [1:03] >> here. [1:04] >> Council Reynolds [1:05] >> here. [1:06] >> Councilor Ringis [1:07] >> here. [1:08] >> Council Sterling [1:09] >> here. [1:10] >> Thank you. [1:11] Um [1:13] we have a lengthy uh agenda this [1:16] evening. Prior to um beginning on that, [1:19] I would ask if there are any [1:20] announcements from council members. [1:23] Chair will um recognize Council [1:25] Reynolds. [1:26] >> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh my [1:28] announcement [1:30] um is somewhat a form of a request as [1:33] well, but it concerns uh a topic that [1:36] will be covered uh in the next agenda [1:39] item uh that is uh part of uh an issue [1:43] in my district. Um and I feel that it's [1:46] necessary that uh comment on the state [1:49] of the current town of Brainreeowned [1:52] drainage easement that runs from the [1:55] White Road vicinity located on the [1:57] northern end of Hawthon Road. Uh and [2:01] then that runs southerntherly direction [2:03] across Home Park Avenue continuing in a [2:06] southerntherly direction behind the [2:07] homes along Hawthon Road through the [2:10] parcel of land formerly known as the St. [2:12] Thomas Moore Church property and where [2:15] it continued to cross. It crosses over [2:18] Old Elm Street between two private [2:20] residential homes and emptying into a [2:22] culvert under the Elm Street extension [2:26] and then into the Manatquit River as it [2:28] was designed. Uh this culvert is [2:32] probably [2:34] 70 years old. This drainage ement is [2:36] about 70 years old. It was designed uh [2:39] for much less volume that what has been [2:42] added to it through the years due to [2:43] residential development. Um, bottom line [2:47] is is that I'd like to ask the uh the [2:50] DPW committee to hold a meeting so that [2:53] we can get an assessment from the town [2:56] of Brainree uh as to how we can uh [3:00] address this sement where it has caused [3:03] uh damage to homes uh last summer and [3:06] years prior and has caused decades of [3:09] flooding uh in that area. And with that [3:12] property being converted, uh my concern [3:16] is is that the issue um would not uh be [3:21] in the best interests of private [3:23] homeowners and their properties. [3:26] Thank you, Mr. President. [3:27] >> Thank you, Councelor RS. Are there any [3:29] other announcements? Councelor Qualty. [3:32] >> Thank you, Mr. President. Um there will [3:34] be a meeting to discuss uh resurrecting [3:36] the friends of the senior center on [3:38] Thursday, September 24th from 3:30 to [3:41] 4:30. That'll be at the Logan auditorium [3:44] at the the public library and all are [3:46] welcome. Thank you. [3:48] >> Thank you councelor. [3:50] There any other council or vice [3:52] president mag. [3:53] >> Thank you council president Morren. The [3:56] East Branchry Community Action Coalition [3:59] is starting up our meetings again is now [4:02] that fall is here. We took uh August [4:04] off. Um the meeting is to uh Thursday [4:08] night, September 17th at 6:30 p.m. at [4:11] the Brainree Yacht Club on Gordon Road. [4:14] Mayor Joyce will be joining us and it's [4:16] a great opportunity to hear what's [4:18] happening in East Brainree, all of [4:20] Brainree, and to ask questions. So [4:23] hopefully everyone will join us on [4:24] Thursday at 6:30. Thank you. [4:30] » Okay. If there if no one else has any [4:31] announcements, I have two. Um Friday, no [4:35] uh September 18th at 10:00 in this [4:38] auditorium, there'll be a ceremony [4:42] um in recognition of National Prisoner [4:44] of War Missing and Action Recognition [4:46] Day [4:47] uh in Cahill Auditorium. And also there [4:51] is a planned ceremony prior to the [4:52] Briner High School football game at 7 [4:55] p.m. at at the alumni field um to [4:59] recognize and uh commemorate the our our [5:03] prison prisoner of wars and missing in [5:05] action. Also um the Brantry Mid-Autumn [5:11] Festival also known as the August Moon [5:13] Festival that was scheduled for this [5:15] weekend was rained out. It is to be [5:18] rescheduled to the um 27th of September [5:22] um same location and I believe it's um [5:26] in the afternoon I believe the hours are [5:28] 1 to 4. Um so that will be that has been [5:31] rescheduled and will be held on the [5:34] 27th. [5:36] Okay. We now uh will move to the [5:39] approval of minutes uh for the meeting [5:42] of uh June 16, 2026. Is there a motion [5:46] to approve the minutes? [5:47] >> Motion to approve the minutes. [5:49] >> Second. [5:50] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [5:51] those in favor? [5:52] >> I. [5:54] >> It's unanimous. [5:55] We'll now move to the citizens concerns [5:58] um uh portion of the meeting. Uh this is [6:04] uh Mr. George Clemens or his attorney [6:08] has uh asked for uh time to present. Uh [6:12] he is here. Um this is treated uh under [6:16] rule 35 of the council as as a public [6:19] comment period. It is not um for the [6:23] council to engage in questioning or or [6:27] inquiry at this time since there is [6:29] nothing before the council. I I do not I [6:32] would caution the council from from uh [6:35] any reaction or or interaction [6:38] >> closer to your mic [6:40] >> um because it could it could result in [6:43] an uh open meeting violation. So we will [6:46] uh listen to the presentation as public [6:49] comment. Mr. Clemens. [6:58] » Thank you President Warren. Um, [7:00] [clears throat] thank you councilors for [7:02] allowing me to uh attend the meeting [7:03] this evening. Uh, as you all know, [7:06] George Clemens, developer, Hawthorne [7:08] Preserve. Um, [7:11] I think you've all been copied in the [7:13] emails. I think we all know what's going [7:14] on at the Hawthorne Preserve project. [7:17] Um, we've been working [clears throat] [7:19] for the better part of a year with the [7:22] uh with the current DPW director, the [7:24] mayor's office, and Mike, if you could [7:27] lay those out so that the council can [7:29] see them. We've had an extreme [7:31] challenge, and I'm not sure exactly why [7:33] that is. Um, there is an easement that [7:37] carries about 12 acres of surface runoff [7:40] from a neighbor from neighboring [7:42] properties through our property. Um, [7:48] we [7:49] relocated a portion of the underground [7:52] easement. And so you're a little more [7:55] familiar with it, [8:00] there was a taking in uh 1940, which [8:04] came off of Thorndikeke Street, picks up [8:06] all of the rainwater off of uh this [8:09] neighborhood, Park Street, giant area. [8:13] Originally, that was that was the first [8:15] easement. 1982, they the town took [8:19] another easement. This is an underground [8:21] pipe that feeds into my property. [8:24] There's a narrow channel um [8:28] that they dump rain water into. 96 they [8:31] took a series of easements so that they [8:34] could bring it out under the old Elm [8:36] Street [snorts] and they did that. [8:39] This was never really, you know, there's [8:41] been historic flooding over in that [8:42] area. So, when we first evaluated this [8:45] property for development, we listened to [8:49] neighbors concerns. We went ahead, we [8:51] looked at this underground section of [8:53] piping. It was fully clogged with [8:55] debris. And when I say debris, we're [8:57] talking large boulders. We're talking [8:59] trees. Um, [9:02] believe it or not, a shopping cart. So [9:05] we found that if we can clean the sement [9:08] that would become a better situation. We [9:11] went ahead and we did that. We relocated [9:14] the seizement as part of the vetted plan [9:16] through the planning department. But [9:18] what we found is in any substantial rain [9:22] event, [9:23] this this is uh this is a hardpiped [9:26] easement and this is an open easement [9:29] where this water comes through in a [9:31] 36-in pipe. This isn't a small pipe. [9:34] This is a substantial pipe running 12 [9:37] acres of uh surface roadway through our [9:40] property. So under heavy rain [9:42] conditions, this this comes out with [9:44] such velocity that it overtakes this [9:46] entire pro this entire property. So we [9:50] identified that we had a meeting with [9:51] DPW. We asked for a meeting. We said, [9:55] "Look, what we need to do is this leg of [9:59] the easement, which is open to the year, [10:01] has has not been cleaned in some time. [10:04] We don't know. We requested records. [10:06] Nobody has records of the last time this [10:08] easement was cleaned. [snorts] [10:10] We've had nothing uh no forwardthinking [10:14] dialogue. As a matter of fact, we've had [10:15] nothing but refusal to clean the [10:17] seizement, and I'm baffled by it. Um, [10:21] I've worked in the town of Brainree for [10:23] 20 years. We're making a $40 million [10:26] capital investment in this community of [10:28] which the town in the very near future [10:32] will be the beneficiary of [10:36] 7 to $800,000 in annual tax revenue. [10:39] We're not asking for a lot. It's not an ask for us. This is a legal [10:44] obligation to maintain its easement. [10:48] We've been unable to communicate [10:50] effectively. We're curious as to why the [10:53] town will not clean this easement. We've [10:56] went so far to offer to do that work and [10:59] we were told, "Nope, we'll handle it." [11:01] We have no definitive timelines. [11:04] Um and recently, [11:08] maybe two weeks ago, the town went [11:10] behind um behind what is a Exxon station [11:14] where this ultimately goes out to the [11:17] Manatqua River and they excavated and [11:19] cleaned that channel of the easement, [11:21] which makes zero sense to me. I'm not an [11:24] engineer and you don't need to be an [11:26] engineer, but the source of contamin [11:29] contaminants that clog this line are [11:32] directly through this congested area [11:34] here. So, the sensible approach is if [11:38] you're going to clean an easement, start [11:40] where start here, dig this out, provide [11:44] directional flow for water. The water [11:46] does not make it through this open [11:48] channel. It floods out the property. [11:52] No surprise because, you know, and I'm [11:55] gonna leave these here. If anybody wants [11:56] to look at them, I'll get them in the [11:58] morning. [snorts] But I'm frustrated. A [12:00] $40 million capital investment in our [12:02] community and I can't get a DPW director [12:05] to clean an easement. That's [12:07] unreasonable. It's beyond unreasonable. [12:09] [snorts] Um, it's been a year. I have [12:12] closings where the town would start [12:15] receiving revenue, tax revenue, real [12:17] revenue from this project within the [12:20] next 30 days. And what do I get told by [12:22] the by our by our DPW director? There [12:26] will be no occupancy permits. That's [12:30] unbelievable to me. You should all be [12:32] shocked by that. [12:34] >> I'm more you know [12:35] >> you've got I just want to give you [12:38] you've got about 30 seconds left of your [12:41] time. [12:41] >> We'll leave it at that. [12:44] >> Okay. [12:44] >> You know, I'm beyond frustrated. I met [12:46] with Peter Machuk on Monday. I see this [12:49] project going sideways. I'm not going to [12:51] take the blame for it. This is [12:54] outrageous. Thank you for your time. [12:56] >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Clemens. [13:08] Turning to the council agenda. Council [13:12] councelor Barerica's demolition delay [13:15] order uh 26026. [13:18] ordinate demolition delay ordinance [13:20] amendment or take up any action relative [13:23] there too. This is a public hearing. Uh [13:26] we will be continuing it to October [13:28] 20th, but we need to open the hearing. [13:30] Is there a motion to open the public [13:31] hearing? [13:34] >> Motion to open the public hearing. [13:36] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [13:38] those in favor? [13:39] >> I [13:40] >> Okay. Um this was tabled in the [13:44] committee of ordinance on ordinances [13:46] rules as they work through the proposed [13:48] amendments. At this time we will [13:49] continue the hearing again till October [13:52] 20th. Is there a motion to continue the [13:54] public hearing for order 26026 [13:58] to October 20th 2026 at 7:30 p.m. [14:02] >> So moved. [14:03] >> Second. [14:04] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [14:05] those in favor? I [14:07] >> It's unanimous. Thank you. [14:11] Moving to order 26049 [14:14] DMAC Enterprises LLC. Reszone portion of [14:18] 17011721 [14:22] Washington Street or take up any action [14:24] relative there too. This is also a [14:26] public hearing. Is there a motion to p [14:29] to or open the public hearing for order [14:32] 2649? [14:34] >> So moved. [14:35] >> Second. [14:36] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [14:37] those in favor? I [14:40] >> I will now refer to councelor Ringus, [14:43] chair of the committee on ordinances and [14:45] rules for a recommendation on order [14:48] 26049. [14:50] >> Uh the committee ordinance and rules met [14:51] on September 10th um regarding um this [14:54] um request. We were taken on a [14:56] historical narrative by attorney [14:57] Johnson. Um but we did send this to the [15:00] full council with a unanimous airable [15:02] recommendation. [15:03] >> Thank you, Council Ringus. Um Mr. [15:06] Johnson uh is here to give us an [15:08] overview on on this. Um prior to his [15:12] overview, I wish to state for the [15:15] record. Uh this property is is near my [15:19] home, but I am not um an abuter to it on [15:23] by the determination of the planning [15:25] department and um by measurement by the [15:28] planning director. So I am allowed to [15:31] participate despite me being kind of [15:35] close. I'm about a house away from being [15:36] in a butter. So, um, Mr. Johnson, would [15:41] you like to give an overview about, um, [15:44] a area of the town, which is, you know, [15:47] probably the best area of the of the [15:49] town in my humble opinion. Uh, go ahead. [15:52] The floor is yours. [15:53] >> Take a vote on that. [clears throat] [15:56] >> For the record, uh, my name is Carl [15:58] Johnson. I represent Petitioner DMAC [16:00] Enterprises, Inc., and Diane Pompio [16:03] Malti, manager, uh, relating to this [16:06] council order 2609. [16:08] [snorts] Um, to reclassify to resident [16:12] to reclassify a residence B portion of a [16:14] split lot, which is lots in more than [16:17] one district as defined in our bylaw. [16:20] both general [16:22] and to uh general business. [16:25] Excuse me. The property is lies in both [16:27] general business and residents uh B at [16:31] 7701 through 1721 Washington Street. Uh [16:35] [snorts] a split lot by the way is [16:37] controlled by um 135306. [16:40] It does have a provision where a split [16:42] lot can be within 150 ft could be [16:47] extended for the most for the least um [16:50] for the business use into residents. But [16:52] this site as we'll go over in a minute [16:55] as you can see on here is probably 400 [16:58] ft from Washington Street to the rear [17:01] portion and doesn't qualify. Therefore, [17:03] we have to uh reszone the property. [17:07] I've been asked tonight not to be [17:09] repetitive. um from what I've done in [17:12] the past uh two meetings, one before the [17:14] planning board and one before the rules [17:16] and ordinance committee which I very [17:18] much enjoyed by the way in the [17:20] questions. Um so I will go right into [17:23] the petition plan which is before you [17:26] and again [17:29] this site is currently 2.1 uh acres. [17:34] It's surrounded by Washington uh [17:36] Washington Street here. And this is the [17:38] narrowest part of of the property. It's [17:41] a little over approximately 200 ft uh [17:45] 212. And it runs along Massachusetts [17:49] Avenue. Massachusetts Avenue is a paper [17:52] street [17:55] or it's an unconstructed um private way. [17:58] This is Old Colony Avenue in the back. [18:00] That was um [snorts] [18:03] again the same thing. It's a private [18:05] unconstructed way or a paper street. And [18:08] this is North Fork Avenue. North Fork [18:10] Avenue as we have u found is all within [18:14] the the property line of this Northfor [18:17] Avenue. I'll show in a minute is 33 feet [18:20] wide. It was a passageway on a plan that [18:23] was shown in 1876 [18:26] um when they were doing loting plans for [18:28] the Brainree Highlands. Rentry [18:30] Highlands. Most of it were not completed [18:33] until um the beginning of the 20th [18:35] century. Uh my house was one of the one [18:38] of the first is in a subdivision was [18:41] 1937. [18:43] Um this property again is this is Washington Street. This is the [18:51] line right now that is general business [18:53] district. [18:58] um [19:01] general business district. So, it's only [19:04] 17,050 [19:06] square feet where the rest of the [19:08] property is uh much larger at 74,446 [19:13] ft. What we are proposing to do by this [19:16] is to extend this for the entire length [19:19] of the property was has been recommended [19:21] to us by um planning and and others. [19:25] There are a lot of uh different uh [19:28] restrictions upon the property as you'll [19:30] see right here. [19:32] Um this parking on the property is in [19:36] the residential zone. One a piece of the [19:39] building, this back portion of this [19:41] building is in the residential zone and [19:43] well as uh the site circulation and so [19:46] forth. [19:47] The other things that are incorrupted [19:49] was a 20 foot wide sewer easement that [19:51] goes across the property which you can't [19:54] build upon although you can park upon. [19:57] These lines are grade lines or contour [20:00] lines show a steep drop off [20:02] approximately from 136 at this point to [20:06] 120 and it goes to 120 and it comes out [20:09] all the way to the back to roughly 100. [20:13] This is a wetlands line that goes around [20:16] the property. These are actual wetlands. [20:19] The other portion of it on the site um [20:23] is uh there are two buffer zones. [20:25] There's a 50 foot and a 100 foot buffer [20:27] zone. So that there are things you can [20:29] build in a buffer zone uh uh but you [20:32] can't in in the wetlands line, but [20:34] that's all part of uh conservation. So [20:37] it is restricted uh quite a bit. [20:46] again uh Washington Street is um is a [20:50] state highway which is a 60-oot layout [20:52] and that actually has moved a little bit [20:55] widened over the years. So where the [20:58] zone line is shown has hasn't increased [21:02] uh very much. the other private the [21:05] other streets, Old Colony Avenue again [21:07] and Northfor Avenue um are private ways. [21:12] We'll show in a minute. One of the most [21:14] important things that that we determined [21:17] why Northfork Avenue uh was owned by the [21:20] uh the Pompio family and now um of DMAC [21:25] um Enterprises LLC is that in 1971 I'm [21:30] going to show you a plan is probably the [21:32] most important um other than the origin [21:34] of Northfor Avenue and that was because [21:37] the town took that was an existing [21:40] street uh Beiels Road but it was always [21:43] unconstructed. In 1971, there was a um [21:47] layout and taking for Beiel's road. And [21:49] when it was finished, they assessed um [21:53] Henry Pompio betterments because now he [21:56] bounded along a pro um a public way and [22:01] that also gives him access to the lower [22:03] part of his property. Um at that time [22:14] as I said be as I said that the the [22:17] property is restricted. What this uh [22:19] reszone would do would create a single [22:21] parcel which 89,600 [22:24] square ft uh and will provide a unified [22:27] neighborhood business parcel and of 2.45 [22:31] acres. by a business parcel. This is [22:33] again been in existence since 1950. It's [22:37] developed uh slowly over time. It has [22:40] had a number of businesses whether it be [22:42] pharmacies, hairdressers, [22:45] um dentists at one time. There's fast [22:47] food restaurant, there's a convenient m [22:49] on there now. It's had a whole host of [22:51] uses that served the Massachusetts [22:54] Avenue area in particular. Um but it has [22:58] generally the uh the highlands area and [23:01] the reason that [23:05] it came about. [23:11] This is this is the uh 1876 plan. And [23:15] this is the site and this was um a [23:19] railroad station called Brainree Depot [23:22] that was uh it was first built in 1866 [23:26] and ran up until um [23:29] 1958. This is railroad tracks are split [23:32] and there were different um accesses to [23:35] the um rail lines at that time and at [23:38] one time there were street cars that [23:40] went in the front of the property. [23:43] It went from South Brainree to Brockton. [23:46] This is a blow up of that same uh area [23:49] that's shown there. And what I pointed [23:51] out is this says passageway 33 feet or [23:54] two rods wide. And you can see that this [23:57] is within this property. This property [24:00] in 1911 became registered land in an [24:03] incorporated um [24:07] the same area. And there are plans that [24:09] show in 1911 that the engineer who was [24:14] putting out these loting plans or house [24:16] plans to be sold uh in in Boston mostly [24:21] uh they uh called it Northfor Avenue for [24:26] because it was in Northfor County [24:27] probably. But that became the word [24:30] Norfork Avenue. So we had to prove [24:33] essentially that the owner owned all of [24:36] the fee in Northfor Avenue and it's [24:38] reflected in their um some of the the [24:41] documents that I gave you. the um [24:44] certificate um and the deed into the um [24:48] Pompio family in 1950 uh referenced the [24:51] fact that uh the soil and the fee in [24:56] this the soil and the fee in Northfor [24:58] Avenue um in Old Colony Avenue stayed [25:02] with the um property and was not deemed [25:06] to be a road so they owned it. Mass [25:08] Avenue was different. That that was not [25:10] included. [25:17] This is a zoning map that you may have [25:19] had in the booklet if you looked at it. [25:20] And this is um shows Beiel's Road when [25:25] it was a paper street and that was [25:27] Norfork when it was a paper street. And [25:29] you can see that this only occupied a [25:31] small pieshaped portion of the premises. [25:38] Probably the most important uh document [25:41] approved that was shown in in the [25:44] booklet is five and this was a taking by [25:47] the town of Brainree [25:49] uh for the layout of that portion of [25:51] Beiel's road and it indicates on the [25:55] side of this and I want to read it. It [25:57] indicates lots 8 and through 13 [26:00] assessor's plan and it references the [26:03] Henry A. Pompio's uh property and it [26:06] says 276 ft. So they assess 276 ft of [26:12] betterments out to here which indicates [26:15] that um his property bounded along by uh [26:20] Beiel's road which is um [26:24] what it indicates on the older plans. So [26:27] essentially without going in any further [26:30] um I think that we proved that it in [26:33] fact um does belong. The fee uh or the [26:37] ownership of all the land area is within [26:40] the Pompio family. [26:48] » Are you all set, Mr. Johnson? Or [26:51] >> are you all are you? I I just want to go [26:53] for the public benefits that one of the [26:55] things we're supposed to uh prove is in [26:58] the public benefits allow them to meet [27:00] dimensional density requirements on the [27:02] enlarged parcel. Improve traffic [27:04] circulation removes restrictions without [27:07] encroaching into the residential areas [27:09] of the buildings and accessory parking. [27:12] enhancing the tax base as a unified [27:14] business zone and eliminating a split [27:16] lot taxes which would be residential and [27:19] uh business at a commercial rate. It [27:22] increases site parking, reorganizes [27:25] uh for more safe traffic circulation and [27:28] a better utilization of the buildings [27:30] within the neighborhood center. Um [27:32] that's probably the briefest [27:33] presentation I've had to make and they [27:35] cut a lot of things out, but I'm sure [27:37] it's appreciated. I would uh really say [27:40] that this has been taken a long time, a [27:43] couple of years because of what we had [27:44] to prove without uh any uh evidence and [27:48] it's been um you know it's been a while [27:51] but I would thank everybody from the [27:52] planning board to the rules and [27:54] ordinance committee meeting and the full [27:56] council and ask for your support. Thank [27:58] you. [27:58] >> Thank you. Are there any questions from [28:00] the council for Mr. Johnson? [28:03] >> Okay, seeing none, is there anyone from [28:04] the mayor's office who wishes to speak [28:06] on this matter? [28:15] » [clears throat] [28:15] >> Good evening, council. Uh, Peter Matic, [28:17] planning director. I believe um the [28:18] council was supplied with the pling [28:20] board recommendations, but uh the [28:22] planning office and uh through obvious [28:24] the mayor's office, we have worked with [28:26] attorney Johnson um and we fully support [28:29] uh from a staff standpoint and from a [28:31] planning board standpoint support the [28:32] zoning change. Thank you. [28:34] >> Thank you, Mr. Magic. Is there anyone [28:37] from the general public who would wish [28:39] to speak on this matter? [28:44] Seeing none, is there a motion to close [28:46] the public hearing? [28:48] >> Motion to close the public hearing. [28:49] >> Second for discussion. I just had one [28:51] comment. [28:52] >> Sure. Council Bar. [28:53] >> Yeah. Thank you. Um I just wanted to to [28:56] say thank you, Mr. Johnson, and to the [28:58] planning department. In our master plan, [29:01] which was completed a few years ago, one [29:03] of the goals was to work to eliminate [29:06] split lots and do a better job unifying [29:10] our zoning. So, when we get the [29:11] opportunity to do that, I know this is [29:13] the second one that's come up in the [29:15] last couple of years. Um, I think that [29:17] is a good chance to start cleaning up [29:19] some of our um outdated zoning. So, I [29:23] will be fully supporting this tonight [29:24] and thank you to the ONR committee for [29:27] their their work on this as well. [29:29] >> Thank you. [29:30] Council Bara. Um, [29:34] I would just echo Councelor Barerica's [29:37] um comments and thank Attorney Johnson [29:40] for his extensive work on this. um as [29:44] someone representing the district and um [29:47] living in close proximity, makes no [29:50] sense for it to have been split in the [29:53] first place. And in his extensive [29:56] research, he could really not find a [29:59] reason why it was split. Um and uh it it is clearly I think in the best [30:06] interest of the town um to uh unite this [30:10] under a a commercial um designation. [30:14] So uh with the closing of the public [30:16] hearing, is there a motion? [30:20] » Motion to approve the reszone as [30:22] submitted as order 26049. [30:25] >> Second. [30:26] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [30:28] those in favor? [30:29] >> I. It's unanimous. Thank you again for [30:32] the work of the committee on ordinances [30:34] and rules. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Thank [30:37] you, Mr. Matchic. We'll now move to 26 [30:42] 050. [30:44] Third hearing, Mayor Allen Allen Street [30:48] Reconstruction right ofway acquis [30:50] acquisition or take any action relative [30:52] there too. This is also a public [30:54] hearing. Is there a motion to open the [30:56] public hearing for order 26 050 [31:00] third uh number three? [31:02] >> So moved. [31:03] >> Second. [31:04] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [31:05] those in favor? [31:06] >> I will now refer to councelor Quilty, [31:10] chair of the committee on the department [31:12] of public works for recommendation on [31:14] order 2650-h. [31:18] The committee on the department of [31:19] public works met earlier this evening [31:21] and sends this to the full council with [31:23] a unanimous favorable recommendation. [31:27] Thank you councelor Quilty. Is there a [31:28] planning board recommendation? [31:36] » Mr. Matt, is he just he just stepped [31:38] out? [31:39] >> Okay. [31:55] Excuse me, council. I just had to go to [31:57] the men's room. Um the planning boards [31:59] did have a public hearing on this and [32:00] the planning board fully supports the um [32:03] roadway layout as proposed by um our [32:07] staff over at the engineering [32:09] department. [32:10] >> Thank you. Uh this is the third and [32:13] final vote on this project, the Allen [32:15] Street project. Would anyone else from [32:16] the mayor's staff wish to speak on the [32:19] order? [32:21] Recognize Mr. Thompson. [32:30] » Thank you, uh, President MREN and [32:32] members of the council. Uh, I'll be [32:34] brief. I'm sure everybody's uh had their [32:36] fill of Allen Allen Street uh [32:39] presentations, but um I'm here tonight [32:42] just seeking a favorable vote from the [32:44] council uh to alter the layout of Allen [32:46] Street. Um as with the other uh [32:49] presentations to the council over the [32:50] past several months. Uh this request is [32:53] uh related to the Allen Street [32:54] reconstruction project. Uh this is the [32:57] last action that will be required of the [32:59] council uh to satisfy state and federal [33:02] uh rightaway requirements to ensure that [33:04] the project moves forward to [33:06] construction. Uh at the last council [33:08] meeting, the council approved an order [33:10] for taking that secured 23 temporary [33:12] easements and 12 permanent easements [33:15] along the project corridor. Uh there [33:17] were three permanent easements that were [33:19] taken uh labeled as A2 um I'm sorry E2, [33:23] E3, and E4 on the right ofway plan set. [33:27] And the purpose for of these three um [33:30] permanent easements was for roadway and [33:32] sidewalk construction. Um, favorable [33:35] action by the council tonight would [33:37] amend the Allen Street layout to [33:39] incorporate these three easement areas [33:42] as after construction, uh, the general [33:44] public would have access to these areas. [33:47] Um, these layout alterations were [33:49] presented to the planning board at their [33:51] September 10th meeting uh, and they [33:52] voted to return a favorable [33:54] recommendation to the council. Uh, and [33:56] I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank [33:58] you. [33:59] Um, is there any questions from the [34:02] council on this matter? [34:04] >> Vice President Magglia, [34:06] >> thank you very much. Um, we talked a lot [34:08] about the details of this last time and [34:11] it's pretty it's a pretty major u piece [34:15] of work that's happening and it's also [34:17] quite exciting. [34:20] >> It's going to be very messy over the [34:23] next five years and I mean that in the [34:25] very literal sense of the word. Um [34:28] people's um access is going to be [34:31] impacted. There's a huge building that [34:33] just went up. Now the street is [34:35] impacted. Is there a 24-hour point [34:39] person or can there be a 24-hour point [34:43] person for when there is an issue [34:45] related to this all of this work that's [34:48] happening and would that be in the town [34:51] or would that be with the state? [34:53] >> Uh the the answer to your question is uh [34:56] is actually both. So there will be um a resident engineer uh [35:01] that's standard operating procedure for [35:04] mass DOT on any project that they [35:06] oversee. They have a a resident engineer [35:08] that's on the project at all times. Uh [35:10] and that I our department of public [35:14] works and the engineering department at [35:16] the town level will be in close contact [35:18] with that resident engineer. So um [35:23] we'll also make the contact inf uh the [35:25] contact information for that individual [35:28] uh available to residents but the [35:29] residents are also able to reach out to [35:32] the DPW and we were able to um deal with with things as they come in. [35:38] >> And is that just during working hours? I [35:41] noticed in all of the plans it talked [35:43] about uh the engineer on site and [35:45] various personnel on site. what happens [35:47] at 6 o'clock, 8:00, midnight if [35:49] something should happen. [35:51] >> Um, also typical with with with um with [35:54] large scale projects like this, the [35:55] contractor will have um emergency [35:58] personnel uh so we can make that, you [36:01] know, we can make that available as [36:02] well. [36:02] >> Great. Thank you very much. That's all I [36:04] had. [36:05] >> Thank you, Vice President Maglio. Um are [36:08] there any other questions from the [36:09] council? Okay. [36:12] Um is there anyone if you have nothing [36:14] further, Mr. Thompson, thank you for [36:16] your work on this. Um, you've, you know, [36:19] we've had a lot of documentation. [36:22] Uh, you've made it clear to us and we [36:25] appreciate your efforts on this. [36:27] >> Thank you. [36:27] >> Um, is there anyone from the general [36:30] public wishing to speak on this order? [36:35] Seeing none, is there a motion to close [36:37] the public hearing on 2603? [36:41] >> So moved. [36:42] >> Second. [36:42] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [36:44] those in favor? [36:45] >> I. [36:46] >> It's unanimous. I'll now uh ask for a [36:48] motion on the order. [36:51] >> Motion. I move that the town council [36:53] vote to alter the layout of Allen Street [36:55] and specifically to include within the [36:57] layout of Allen Street certain parcels [37:00] being parcels E2, E3, and E4 as shown on [37:04] a plan entitled alteration and easement [37:06] plan Allen Street, Brainree, [37:09] Massachusetts, dated August 20th, 2026. [37:12] prepared by WSPUSA, [37:14] Inc. [37:16] >> second. [37:17] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [37:19] those in favor? [37:20] >> I. [37:20] >> It's unanimous. Uh, thank you for your [37:23] for, uh, I'd like to thank all the town [37:25] departments for their work on this and, [37:27] uh, and hopefully as it gets messy, uh, [37:31] we keep on top of it so that, uh, the [37:33] residents of Allen Street are are kept [37:35] safe and, uh, their concerns are [37:37] addressed. [37:38] >> Thank you. [37:39] I would ask now um I'd like [37:41] to take um a matter out of order. Under [37:45] new business 26064, [37:48] council president discussion and vote on [37:51] statement of interest for supplementary [37:53] statement to the school building [37:55] authority or take up any action relative [37:58] there too. We have with us this evening [38:00] the superintendent of schools and and [38:02] the chair of the school committee. This [38:05] would require same night action request [38:07] is um uh or same night action. This is a [38:11] same night action request. Is there any [38:13] objection from any counselors to same [38:15] night action on this order? [38:19] Seeing none, uh I would ask um for [38:24] either the superintendent or or uh the [38:27] school committee chair to come up and uh [38:30] give us a status on where we are with [38:31] the SBA and and what's being requested [38:34] this evening. [38:39] I would note that um councelor uh [38:43] Sterling and I attended the uh school [38:45] committee uh meeting last last evening [38:48] and listen to the um the deliberations [38:51] and discussion and it was uh very [38:53] helpful. So superintendent floor is [38:55] yours. [38:56] >> Thank you very much. Uh, as many of you [38:59] know, the MSBA visited Brainree High [39:01] School for a visit on the first day of [39:04] school and we had a group of town [39:06] leaders there along with school leaders [39:08] and we listened gave some brief [39:10] presentations and listened to some [39:11] questions from the MSBA and from the [39:14] architects that were present [39:16] during that discussion. Uh, the MSBA uh [39:19] made it very clear that the decision [39:21] regarding grade configuration was left [39:23] up to the town of Brainery. But they did [39:26] infer that it would be better for us to [39:27] be more specific in which way we would [39:30] like to go forward. Um at that point um [39:34] the school committee decided last night [39:36] uh to on a vote of 6 to1 to go with a 9 [39:40] through 12 grade configuration for the [39:43] new or renovated Brainree High School in [39:46] the hopes that the MSBA will choose to [39:48] partner with us for this important [39:50] building. [39:52] Thank you. [39:53] >> Thank you. Um, are there any questions [39:55] from any of the counselors? [39:58] >> Councelor Barerica. [39:59] >> Thank you, President Morren. Um, I'm [40:02] curious just from a procedural [40:05] standpoint because we don't have [40:07] anything in our in our uh documents for [40:10] the tonight. [40:12] Is there do we need to revote on the [40:15] statement of interest or is this just [40:16] more of anformational update? So what [40:19] this is is a is a supplemental or an [40:23] updated or clarification of of this [40:25] statement of interest. It does not [40:27] require a revote on the statement of [40:29] interest that was approved by the [40:31] council previously. This is just in [40:33] supplement to that to clarify um to the [40:38] um uh SBA what the preference of the of [40:41] the town is. and they were asking that [40:44] if the school committee and the uh [40:47] council could um you know state in [40:51] unison what their preferences are. [40:54] >> Okay. With a followup then so we would [40:56] be sending up in conjunction with the [40:58] school committee depending on the [41:00] outcome of this evening a like an [41:03] amendment that is signed by either [41:05] yourself or the entire council. a [41:07] letter. I believe a letter would be [41:09] signed by the superintendent, the chair [41:11] of the u the school committee and and [41:13] myself. [41:14] >> Okay. Thank you for clarifying and um I have a lot of faith and trust in our [41:20] school committee members and know that [41:22] they have done a ton of work on um the [41:27] SOI [41:29] la last school year earlier this [41:32] calendar year and um I will definitely [41:35] be fully supporting their decision this [41:37] evening. So thank you. Thank you for uh [41:39] answering my questions. [41:40] >> Thank you for the questions council [41:41] barer. Are there any other [41:43] >> not a question? [41:44] >> Councel Dudy. [41:46] >> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh having some [41:47] experience with the MSBA and their [41:49] processes and procedures. Uh I support [41:51] the shift to grades 9 through 12 in the [41:53] high school. Uh when we parted partnered [41:55] with the MSBA uh on South and East, we [41:59] addressed an enrollment issue that we [42:01] were then facing. Uh we worked with the [42:02] MSBA on those projects receiving [42:05] significant funding from the state. Um [42:07] at that point, we had a plan in place [42:08] for grades 5 through eight. uh and we're [42:11] going to go back to them to work on the [42:12] high schools 9th through 12 later on. So [42:15] now uh modifying the S so SOI stays uh [42:18] in line with the previous uh plans and [42:20] conversations we had with the MSBA uh [42:23] which up to that point, you know, has [42:25] been an effective partnership. Uh [42:27] keeping in line with that original plan [42:28] shows the state that we're serious uh in [42:31] our original plans and I believe it [42:33] gives uh the town the best chance we [42:35] have in addressing the current issues at [42:36] the high school. [42:37] >> Thank you, Council Derty. there. Council [42:40] >> Ringers, [42:41] >> just a comment. Um I I served on the [42:43] school committee when we initially voted [42:45] to transition to that sort of 5 through [42:47] eight um model and I think I piggyback [42:50] on what council dudy says. I think it [42:52] sort of sticks with that path that we [42:54] had um established at that time that we [42:57] were going to focus on the 5 through [42:58] eight to address at that time um was a [43:00] significant um overcrowding issue that [43:03] we were facing in all our entry schools [43:04] and by moving fifth to middle school it [43:06] sort of alleviated that concern. um and [43:09] created what we now have following that [43:11] path to our sort of our new south and [43:12] our new east. And I think this is now [43:15] sort of the next step in that process. [43:16] Um the kids have these bright, shiny, [43:19] wonderful new middle schools and we hope [43:21] that at some point it will follow suit [43:23] that that will continue into their high [43:25] school years. Um, I applaud and u thank [43:30] Superintendent uh McDonald and his staff [43:32] as well as Chairman Rolo and the school [43:34] committee for the work that they put on [43:35] this all through last spring through the [43:38] summer uh and now into the fall. Um, and [43:40] I am going to uh support this as well. [43:42] So, thank you. [43:44] >> There any other comments? Vice President [43:46] Mley? [43:47] >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much for [43:48] this update. I'm wondering what has [43:50] happened since we submitted this to now [43:55] that results in making this um firm [43:59] distinction I guess for 9 to 12. [44:02] >> I think the biggest piece was the the [44:04] visit that we had with the MSBA in early [44:06] September where they kind of gave us the [44:07] indication that it would be important [44:08] for us to choose one way or the other. [44:11] And so they said it was important to [44:14] choose, but was there any did we do any [44:17] further research or um like what is it [44:20] that made us choose 9 to 12 versus the [44:24] what was it 7 to 12? [44:25] >> Correct. [44:26] >> Like what what more did we learn that [44:29] makes that a good idea? [44:32] >> Well, I don't know if we learned more to [44:34] make it a good idea. I think it was more [44:36] about what's the best avenue for the [44:38] town of Brainy to to be invited into the [44:41] process. And I think and I don't want to [44:43] speak for the school committee members [44:44] that voted, but I think that was one of [44:46] the driving forces for going in this [44:48] direction was we felt that this would [44:50] make give us a better opportunity to get [44:52] into the partnership. [44:54] >> Okay. So, this is a this is a strategic [44:56] decision in order to get the funding. [44:58] Yes. [44:59] >> Basically to get a new high school. So, [45:01] I I [45:02] >> renovated renovated high school. [45:03] >> I'm sorry. or a renovated high school [45:05] >> or renovated. So I'm just wondering [45:08] did they offer reasons as to why that [45:12] would be more [45:15] investment worthy or attractive or we [45:19] would have um a uh better outcomes. We'd [45:24] have a better educational program. Like [45:26] I'm just I'm just looking for something [45:28] that makes 9 to 12 a really good [45:31] decision other than it's what we can get [45:33] the funding for. [45:34] >> Well, I think it was more about showing [45:37] the unity, show being more specific as a [45:39] group, as a town council and as a school [45:41] committee going in one direction as [45:43] opposed to having we put this originally [45:45] in the soi to try to be versatile, you [45:47] know, try to show our versatility to the [45:49] MSBA. And when we met with them, they pretty much said it would be better [45:52] if you could just pick one or the other, [45:55] which led us to this decision. [45:58] >> Okay. Thank you. [45:59] >> You're welcome. [46:01] >> Are there any other questions? [46:04] >> Council Flurry. [46:05] >> Thank you. Not a question, just a a [46:08] statement to be clear. Um, I attended [46:10] this meeting um with the MSBA [46:13] representatives and we toured the high [46:15] school and I I have a a son who just [46:17] graduated from the high school and a [46:19] daughter who's a senior there and I've [46:20] been visiting the high school, you know, [46:22] semi-regularly for the last I don't know [46:26] seven or eight years. And um what this [46:29] [clears throat] tour did was take me [46:31] beyond the area of the gym and the [46:34] cafeteria and the auditorium, the front [46:37] of the building so to speak that I have [46:41] regularly seen, which is not fancy. It [46:43] is not fancy in there, but it is clean [46:45] and it looks like things are at least [46:48] intact. [46:51] The tour that I was taken through took [46:54] us into the science classrooms, the art [46:57] classrooms, the orchestra room, and what [47:01] you can see when you get away from the [47:03] front of the building is a lot of things [47:07] that just look [47:10] out of order. So, peeling paint, water [47:14] damage, faulty sinks, cluttered [47:17] conditions because of lack of storage. [47:19] We were told about regular bathroom [47:21] closures and unattractive bathroom [47:24] smells because of plumbing problems, [47:26] water damage because of leaks. [47:30] There's damaged furniture. [47:33] It's shabby. It's unwelcoming. [47:36] And it really is something that needs to [47:38] be [47:40] renovated, replaced, [47:42] radically improved. And this community [47:45] has known that for a long, long time. [47:47] Like I sort of thought when my kids were [47:49] little and attending the integrated [47:51] preschool that we would have a maybe a [47:53] new high school by the time my kids were [47:55] ready to go and that just did not turn [47:56] out to be the case. But um [48:01] now we are confronted with this question [48:04] of whether to change the grade [48:07] configurations of the high school [48:09] because in the school master plan it [48:12] indicated that we were interested in [48:14] both options. [48:16] And um I think that a decision to [48:19] explore the pursuit of a 7 through 12 [48:21] grade configuration may have some merit [48:23] in theory, but this decision has to be [48:26] taken in the context that we are in [48:28] right now. Um and there are two things [48:32] that are really relevant to consider in [48:35] my view. One is that we just partnered [48:38] with the MSBA on two middle school [48:40] projects where we asked them to support [48:42] us through building a 5 through8 school [48:46] once and then another 5 through8 school [48:49] again. So to change [48:54] uh to change course at this point [48:58] um is not in alignment with what we told [49:00] them we wanted to do in the past. And I [49:03] can well understand why that might make [49:05] them hesitate to partner with us because [49:08] you want to be a partner in good faith [49:10] and not give the impression that you're [49:13] going to change at any moment that you [49:15] don't really know what you're doing and [49:16] what you need. The other thing is that [49:19] this community is expecting a 9 [49:21] through12 proposal to come forward and [49:23] we are absolutely going to need um to [49:26] pass a debt exclusion in order to fund [49:28] it. And so I I think that at this point [49:32] to try and convince a public that is [49:36] entirely unexpecting this sort of idea [49:40] to come forward that this is what we [49:42] should put big money towards is you know [49:46] perhaps a bigger lift than we want than [49:48] we should take on. Um so I will be [49:51] supporting this tonight for sure. [49:55] >> Well said. Thank you councel flarity. [49:58] One more time, Vice President. [50:00] >> Thank you. So, I think that I will also [50:03] be prepared to support this, but I do [50:05] want to say that I was hoping that there [50:08] would be a lot more information [50:09] available to us. Counselor Flareity just [50:11] mentioned a master plan, which I don't [50:14] feel like we actually do have a school [50:15] master plan. I don't there's hasn't been [50:18] any real new information since the last [50:20] time we met which was extremely tense [50:23] and fraught with um [snorts] [50:26] with uh urgency and um I would [50:33] >> I would ask that there be um a real [50:37] effort to actually create um the kind of [50:41] communication mechanisms that we can get [50:44] information the town can get information [50:46] and we can see that there's actually [50:49] work happening on the planning part of [50:51] this. I mean, we still don't know for [50:53] the rest of the schools what's going to [50:55] happen. And for me, it it's hard to [50:58] parcel this out without having a big [51:01] vision of what the future will bring for [51:04] our elementary schools, particularly the [51:06] schools that are in East Brainree. So, I [51:09] think that is something that I am hoping [51:12] to see some work on. Um, and um, I think [51:17] that would really be the spirit of [51:19] teamwork and collaboration and everyone [51:22] working together if we actually have a [51:24] plan that involves our entire public [51:26] school system and how we're going to [51:28] fund it and what it's going to look like [51:30] moving forward. But I do agree with um [51:33] the need. I just [51:37] would um I just would have thought it [51:39] would have played out a little [51:40] differently. But thank you. That's all I [51:43] want to say. [51:44] >> Thank you. [51:45] Um if if there are no other comments [51:48] from other councils, I I will take the [51:50] opportunity to comment. Um [51:55] I think that [51:57] in listening to this uh the school [51:59] committee's discussion last night and [52:01] particularly in the uh comments of Dr. [52:03] Horics, a member of the uh um committee [52:06] in her statement that you know she [52:08] discussed with other educators which uh configuration was preferential [52:14] and uh she came down on the side of of 9 [52:18] through 12 and uh from from an [52:20] educational perspective [52:23] from my perspective I focus on on the [52:28] work of this council and the work of [52:29] this town's government on [52:32] um the art of the possible. What we are [52:35] trying to do is get a new high school [52:37] built and I think we need to um take the [52:41] steps that are going to enhance the [52:43] likelihood of success for that. Uh going [52:48] to a 7 through 12 model would would be [52:51] disruptive for the elementary schools [52:53] that we currently have. That would [52:55] generate opposition. [52:57] Um, reconfiguring the current middle [53:01] schools, as council uh, Flareity so [53:03] articulately stated, [53:06] would cause questions with the SBA and [53:08] questions with the public as to are well [53:13] intended, but are we committed to a [53:15] direction? [53:17] Um we I think we if by joining with the [53:22] school committee this evening I think we [53:24] demonstrate a unity of purpose and [53:27] support um for a new high school with a [53:30] configuration of grades 9 through 12. I [53:34] think we've also demonstrated in that [53:36] meeting that we have financial stability [53:39] that we have not had uh when we have [53:42] filed and tried to partner with the SBA [53:44] previously. We've got the money set [53:46] aside for the feasibility study. We've [53:49] got our our fiscal house in much greater [53:52] better order than we had previously. [53:55] We're ready to to partner uh in a way [53:57] that in a more meaningful way than we [53:59] have been in years. So I think that it [54:01] is important for us to to join uh with [54:05] the school committee in their action and [54:08] um and support uh their um communication [54:12] to the u school building authority. With [54:16] that I would entertain a motion. [54:23] I move that the town council join the [54:25] school committee in supporting its [54:27] supplemental submission to the school [54:29] building authority. [54:30] >> Second. [54:31] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [54:33] those in favor? [54:34] >> I. [54:35] >> It is unanimous. Thank you very much. [54:37] Thank you, Superintendent. Thank you, [54:39] Chair Rola, for attending this evening. [54:43] Okay, I got to go find my place again. [54:45] Here we've done Allen Street. Don't want [54:47] to do Allen Street again. [54:51] Okay, we're moving to back to the uh [54:54] agenda. We'll be moving to 26059 [54:58] council uh amendments to zoning [55:00] ordinance 135206 and 135604 or any [55:04] action relative there too. Um this is on [55:07] as a public hearing but it will be [55:08] continued to October 20th. Is there a [55:11] motion to um open the public hearing? [55:13] >> Motion to open the public hearing for [55:15] those three orders. [55:17] >> Second. [55:18] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [55:19] those in favor? [55:21] >> I [55:21] >> Okay, we're open. Uh, this was tabled by [55:23] the committee on ordinances and rules [55:25] waiting for legal review and the [55:26] planning board recommendation. At this [55:28] time, we'll continue the public hearing [55:30] on uh till October 20th, 20 uh 26 at [55:34] 7:30 p.m. Is there a motion to continue [55:36] the public hearing for order 26059? [55:39] >> Motion to continue. [55:40] >> Second. [55:41] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [55:42] those in in favor? [55:44] >> I. [55:45] >> Okay. Thank you. [55:48] Okay. Um, next uh is 26061, [55:54] mayor's authorization to accept [55:55] donations, veterans programs, or take up [55:58] any action relative there too. I'd now [56:01] uh refer to Council Barerica, chair of [56:02] the Ways and Means Committee for [56:04] recommendation on the order. [56:06] >> Thank you, President Morren. The [56:08] Committee of Ways and Means met uh [56:10] yesterday on September 14th. We're [56:12] sending this to the full council with a [56:14] unanimous favorable recommendation and [56:17] our many thanks to the donors. [56:20] >> Thank you, Council Barer. Anyone wish to [56:22] speak on this matter from the mayor's [56:24] office? [56:26] >> Mr. Resmond. [56:28] >> Good evening. [clears throat] Uh, [56:28] President MREN and members of the [56:30] council. Just very quickly, um motion in [56:32] front of you um would allow uh the town [56:35] to accept $1,100 um from the two [56:38] indicated um community organizations [56:40] that help serve uh provide services to [56:43] our veterans um community. These were [56:45] greatly appreciated gifts. And um just [56:48] for um a little information, this will [56:50] help um our veteran services officer [56:52] defay costs for events and community [56:55] programming. he provides um in service [56:58] to the veterans in our community um [57:00] through the course of the year. I'm [57:01] happy to answer any questions. [57:04] >> Any questions? [57:06] Seeing none. Thank you, Mr. Esmond. Um [57:09] uh Council Reynolds, I apologize. [57:11] >> Not a question. Thank you, Mr. [57:12] President. Just a comment. I want to say [57:13] thank you to the American Legion Post 86 [57:16] and Disabled American Veterans Post uh [57:20] for their generous donations to the [57:22] town's veteran services uh office. It is [57:25] a as we all know it's a growing um [57:28] interest in supporting the veterans of [57:30] not only Brainree but also supporting [57:32] the veterans uh and veteran related [57:35] issues for the towns of Avon and [57:37] Hullbrook as well. And I just wanted to [57:40] make sure that the that the the [57:42] community had the opportunity to say [57:44] thank you to those organizations and [57:46] supporting the town government's uh [57:50] ability to provide those important [57:52] benefits that Mr. Eman had enumerated. [57:55] Thank you, Mr. President. [57:57] >> Thank you, Councelor Reynolds. Well [57:59] said. Um [58:02] there's no further um discussion. I'll [58:05] take a motion. [58:07] >> Motion that the town of Brainree be and [58:09] hereby is authorized in accordance with [58:11] section 53A of chapter 44 of the [58:15] Massachusetts General Laws to accept the [58:17] following gift upon the conditions [58:19] attached and herein set forth. Donor [58:22] Brainree American Legion Post86 gift [58:25] $100 purpose support veteran programs [58:29] donor Brainree VFW Post1702 [58:33] gift $1,000 purpose support veteran [58:36] programs [58:38] >> second. [58:39] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [58:40] those in favor? [58:42] >> I. [58:42] >> It's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you, [58:44] Mr. Esmond. Next to uh 26062 mayor [58:48] intermunicipal agreement for emergency [58:50] motor vehicle technician services or any [58:52] action relative there too. I'll now once [58:55] again refer to council bareric chair of [58:57] the committee on ways and means for a [58:59] recommendation on order 26062. [59:02] >> Thank you very much president MREN. Um [59:04] again the committee met yesterday and we [59:06] are sending this to the full council [59:08] with a unanimous favorable [59:10] recommendation. [59:11] >> Thank you councelor Barerica. Is there [59:12] anyone from the mayor's staff that would [59:14] like to speak on this matter? Chief [59:16] Viola. [59:21] » Good evening and thank you, Freddy [59:22] Viola, Fire Chief. Um, [59:26] I wanted to be able to explain and [59:28] answer any questions related to this IMA [59:30] uh intermunicipal agreement with the [59:32] town of Foxboro. So, I I have to go [59:34] backwards to go forward. So, I'll just [59:36] tell you that when um when I first took [59:39] over, one of the first things that I was [59:40] doing or did was take an assessment of [59:43] the um the vehicles that we have in our [59:45] fleet, which consists of five engines, [59:47] two ladders, uh one squad, one forestry [59:50] truck, and a heavy rescue, which I'm [59:51] dying to hear from the TE on. Uh we also [59:54] have some administrative vehicles or or [59:56] light duty vehicles that um we we send [59:58] out for repairs. We have a number of [1:00:00] vendors u now and that list grows. Um, a [1:00:05] lot of the firetruck stuff when it goes [1:00:07] to be repaired, we have to send it to if [1:00:10] it's not a light duty repair, it has to [1:00:12] go to the dealership and the dealership [1:00:13] charges us if anyone has a vehicle, [1:00:16] newer vehicle, and they take it to the [1:00:17] dealership. You understand the [1:00:19] dealership rates are a lot higher than [1:00:21] that of [snorts] your typical repair [1:00:23] shops. So, um, in partnership with, um, [1:00:27] FCAM and some of the other chief [1:00:29] organizations, I found that the town of [1:00:31] Foxboro can do these repairs with [1:00:33] certified technicians at least rate and [1:00:37] with a little more expedience than that [1:00:39] of the dealership. So, I felt that um, [1:00:42] to relieve some of the stray that we [1:00:44] have with using the same old same old [1:00:46] all the time or taxing some of the [1:00:48] smaller vendors that we should enter [1:00:50] into this agreement to um, provide some [1:00:52] repairs. The oldest truck that we have [1:00:55] currently as a firstline piece of [1:00:57] apparatus is a 2012 and that uh needs [1:01:00] some some work to keep that running as a [1:01:02] frontline piece. Uh that's the engine [1:01:05] three east side the uh the engine the [1:01:08] engine 3 which covers the east side of [1:01:10] Brainree. Um so that needs some repairs [1:01:12] and they I wanted to be able to do that. [1:01:14] They they're all certified um Allison [1:01:17] transmissions, Cumins motors, hail [1:01:19] pumps, waterous pumps. These are all [1:01:21] factory standard but um they need [1:01:24] certified technicians to work on them [1:01:26] and also to and on an annual basis [1:01:28] certify them as safe to operate at a [1:01:31] fire. So um yeah just to eliminate the [1:01:34] stray and look for more ways to save [1:01:36] money and make our budget stretch a [1:01:39] little bit more. This is just one more [1:01:40] option. We wouldn't use them exclusive [1:01:42] exclusively for everything, but we would [1:01:44] use them um periodically especially they [1:01:47] can offer mobile service so they can [1:01:48] come out to Brainree and fix it here um [1:01:52] on that. So they're just we just want to [1:01:54] add them to as one of our vendor list [1:01:56] and I would be happy to answer any [1:01:58] further questions. [1:02:01] >> Are there any questions? [1:02:03] >> Council Beric, [1:02:04] >> just a comment. Um, I think it's [1:02:06] important and to acknowledge and thank [1:02:09] you, Chief Fiola, for your work on this. [1:02:11] You know, this not only is a cost [1:02:13] savings for the town of Brainree, it [1:02:17] protects our firefighters, it protects [1:02:21] our residents by making sure our [1:02:23] equipment is in service as much as [1:02:26] possible. I believe in uh one of the [1:02:29] memos we received through Ways and [1:02:31] Means. You know, we at one point, I [1:02:33] think it was in the 90s, we had our own [1:02:37] firefighter fire truck. [1:02:40] >> We had a um we had an ASME employee that [1:02:42] worked as a mechanic. And he was one of [1:02:44] those people that in a blizzard could [1:02:46] get a tank running [snorts] on the side [1:02:50] of the road. He was just one of those [1:02:51] guys that was very, very handy, very [1:02:53] good. He could weld, he could do [1:02:54] everything. So with that there was a [1:02:56] member of the fire department that [1:02:58] helped him. Um as time passed those [1:03:02] positions were faded out and we have we [1:03:04] still have someone who does fluid breaks [1:03:07] um twice a month and we have a uh [1:03:09] Lieutenant Milwood who um oversees that [1:03:12] keeps that on a steady basis. I'm a I'm [1:03:14] a real uh preventive maintenance person. [1:03:16] I am with my own vehicle and I think [1:03:18] it's very important when it comes to [1:03:19] frontline apparatus. So, and uh I'm in [1:03:22] concert with Lieutenant Mil Milwood with [1:03:24] that. So, um he organizes the those [1:03:28] types of spot checks uh twice a month as [1:03:30] well as all these other repairs. He [1:03:32] interfaces with the vendors. He [1:03:34] interfaces with the parts companies and [1:03:35] those things. So, we still have someone [1:03:37] that does that but doesn't turn [1:03:39] wrenches. We don't have the capacity or [1:03:43] the facil or the proper facilities, [1:03:44] proper waste oil containment, things [1:03:46] like that that would come along with [1:03:47] that. So it is a lot easier to um you [1:03:50] know farm it out essentially. [1:03:52] >> Well, I I commend you on the your vision [1:03:56] and your leadership for not just this [1:03:58] program but for the department because [1:04:00] these are the little things that end up [1:04:02] being the big things. Um when there is [1:04:05] an emergency, our trucks will be ready. [1:04:08] Um and and that's thanks to your [1:04:10] leadership. So thank you, Chief. [1:04:11] >> Thank you, [1:04:14] Chief. Um, I want to commend you for [1:04:17] your creativity and your approach to [1:04:18] this this um this issue. I think it it [1:04:22] will lead to cost savings. It'll also [1:04:24] keep vehicles in service. Um, when you [1:04:27] have to go to the dealership, you not [1:04:29] only have to pay more, you have to wait [1:04:31] longer. [1:04:32] >> Yes. [1:04:32] >> And um and and that I think is a is a [1:04:36] public safety issue and for for some [1:04:39] departments uh you have really have to [1:04:41] manage uh your vehicles well. I think [1:04:43] your your vehicle maintenance program, [1:04:46] you know, I happen to hear a lot about [1:04:48] that. [1:04:48] >> Oh, I'm sure you do. [1:04:49] >> Yes. Um, so I'm I'm well familiar with [1:04:52] that. It it seems like it's it's active. [1:04:55] It's important, you know, we've seen we [1:04:57] know the tragedies in Boston when brakes [1:04:59] failed on on engines. [1:05:01] >> It's important to keep up on on those [1:05:03] things. Um, I share councelor Barerica's [1:05:08] uh um curiosity about and I remember [1:05:12] when we did have the de the uh ASME [1:05:15] employee that that did this work. I [1:05:17] think we ideally we would we would be [1:05:21] better off if we could one day get to [1:05:23] the point where we did have a a fire [1:05:25] mechanic on staff. in Norwell where I [1:05:28] was town minister, we were fortunate to [1:05:30] have two and and so those communities [1:05:34] that do have them share and and what [1:05:38] you're doing now is availing yourself of [1:05:41] a community that has that in a in a [1:05:43] shrewd way. Um, but I I would like to, [1:05:47] you know, see if we could get to a point [1:05:49] where we have a facility that can um, [1:05:53] you know, where we can properly service [1:05:55] our vehicles and we have the staff that [1:05:57] can work on it as well. [1:05:59] >> Yeah, that would be it's going to take a [1:06:01] while to get there, but I it's a worthy [1:06:03] goal. [1:06:04] >> Yes. I uh just two notes too that you [1:06:06] know we should I know that you folks [1:06:08] know but maybe for the public is that we [1:06:10] have capital uh we have we purchased a [1:06:13] fire engine this year through capital [1:06:15] and we have another one spaced out um [1:06:17] for purchase in you know between now and [1:06:20] 2030 I believe it is. So um if we find [1:06:24] one like we did that like this new one [1:06:27] um we can certainly make that purchase [1:06:28] and just update our fleet with um with a [1:06:31] newer newer apparatus. But with all the [1:06:33] newer apparatus comes with all the [1:06:36] newer, you know, computers and all the [1:06:39] other stuff that come with it. And then [1:06:40] uh the uh ways and means asked me last [1:06:43] night and I wasn't sure. So I I did some [1:06:45] research in Cambridge also does this uh [1:06:47] jointly for the north of Boston. So just [1:06:50] in case you were wonder I know you were [1:06:51] wondering last night. So I did find that [1:06:53] out. So [1:06:55] >> thank you chief. [1:06:56] >> Uh if there's no further discussion I'll [1:06:58] entertain a motion on this order. [1:07:02] Motion authorizing Mayor Erin v. Joyce [1:07:06] to execute an intermunic municipal [1:07:08] agreement on behalf of the town of [1:07:10] Braintry for shared emergency motor [1:07:12] vehicle technician services between the [1:07:15] towns of Braintry and Foxboro. [1:07:18] >> Second. [1:07:18] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [1:07:20] those in favor? [1:07:21] >> I. [1:07:21] >> It's unanimous. Thank you. Um we have on [1:07:25] the agenda this evening um 2726 [1:07:28] uh which we've had but we have no one [1:07:32] from the mayor's office attending this [1:07:34] evening to discuss or give us an update [1:07:36] on trash and recycling. If there's no [1:07:39] objection uh I won't remove this from [1:07:41] the table at this at this point if [1:07:43] that's okay. Thank you. We'll probably [1:07:45] have someone at the next at the next [1:07:48] meeting. [1:07:50] Um, moving to new business and to the [1:07:53] very patient folks in the back of the [1:07:56] room that are going to tell us a lot of [1:07:58] interesting stuff. Um, we are going to [1:08:01] move to the F [1:08:03] order number 3226 [1:08:06] FY25 audit review or any action relative [1:08:09] there too. [1:08:11] We've got Romina Mli and Renee Davis of [1:08:15] CBZ. [1:08:17] Which one of you wants to start? Good [1:08:19] evening and thank you for your patience. [1:08:20] >> Of course. Good evening and thank you [1:08:22] for having us. I'm Roina Mamelly. I am a [1:08:25] director with CBiz. Basically that means [1:08:27] I am the person who's on site conducting [1:08:29] the audit drafting the financial [1:08:31] statements and then they go to Renee [1:08:33] Davis who's a managing director with [1:08:34] CBIZ for her final review, approval, [1:08:37] sign off and issuance. So um I want to [1:08:40] talk a little bit about our process. So [1:08:42] we're here tonight to present our annual [1:08:44] presentation on the financial [1:08:46] statements. Tonight we're only going to [1:08:48] talk about the annual comprehensive [1:08:49] financial report for FY25. [1:08:52] And what we do is we're typically here [1:08:54] two times a year. So the first time we [1:08:56] come out is usually the springtime. [1:08:58] We're a little delayed this year. We're [1:08:59] actually doing it about now is our [1:09:00] planning. We go through and we do our planning. We do our risk [1:09:04] assessments. We document internal [1:09:06] controls. We look at the town's [1:09:08] processes and look to see did something [1:09:10] change. Where can things go wrong? where [1:09:14] is um where are there items where [1:09:16] something is lacking that something can [1:09:18] be strengthened and I will tell you that [1:09:21] this year there is for FY25 there is no [1:09:23] management letter there was no material [1:09:25] weaknesses or significant deficiencies [1:09:27] in these internal controls and anything [1:09:29] that we find that was not significant [1:09:31] would have been communicated with with [1:09:34] um Mike and his finance team. [1:09:37] So, as we're going through and we're [1:09:39] designing these um risks of what we're [1:09:42] going to test, that ba is our basic um [1:09:47] I'm going to say line of what we're [1:09:49] going to test. So, we design all of our [1:09:52] testing, real estate, user charges, [1:09:55] expenditure testing. We look at [1:09:58] compliance with laws and regulations and [1:10:01] that's how we build our audit. So, every [1:10:02] year there is a little bit of um an [1:10:05] unpredictability. We're selecting [1:10:07] different things for testing and I can [1:10:10] say that the testing that we performed [1:10:11] in FY25 we found nothing that didn't [1:10:15] foot didn't tie in was missing a [1:10:17] signature nothing. So all of our testing [1:10:19] came back perfect. [1:10:22] Then after the town has year-end numbers [1:10:24] so once they are ready to close their [1:10:26] books or close to we come out we do an [1:10:28] import of the of the trial balance into [1:10:32] our own software. We as a non-attest [1:10:34] service, we help prepare the financial [1:10:36] statements. All of that information [1:10:39] that's in these financial statements [1:10:41] does belong to the town. We just help in [1:10:43] putting that together. The town does [1:10:46] issue an annual comprehensive financial [1:10:48] report. So that gets submitted to the [1:10:50] GFOA for a certificate. So the town did [1:10:54] receive the FY24 certificate in May of [1:10:57] this year. and we have submitted the [1:10:59] FY25 report for that same certificate. [1:11:03] So, we're still waiting to hear back on [1:11:04] that. Probably be another couple of [1:11:06] months before those results come back to [1:11:07] us. [1:11:09] The financial statements themselves are [1:11:11] kind of set up as three different levels [1:11:13] of accounting. So, you have we're [1:11:16] actually going to start a little bit in [1:11:17] the back. I'm glad you guys got your [1:11:19] printed reports. So, thank you Sue for [1:11:21] putting those out. Um, so in the back of [1:11:24] the report, actually on if you wanted to [1:11:27] flip, you don't have to, but if you want [1:11:28] to flip, it's on page 110 to 112 is the [1:11:31] budget to actual. This is the closest to [1:11:35] cash basis that you can find. So when [1:11:37] you're talking about your budgets, [1:11:38] you're looking at where your [1:11:39] expenditures are, what you've [1:11:41] appropriated as part of your annual [1:11:43] budget, what your revenues, how they [1:11:46] came in, this is where you'd want to [1:11:48] look. So for FY25, [1:11:52] the actual general fund revenues came in [1:11:54] $10 million over what was budgeted. The [1:11:57] majority of that was in real estate in [1:12:00] departmental and other and in motor [1:12:02] vehicle. Um and remember when you're [1:12:04] putting together your revenue budgets, [1:12:06] they're conservative estimates. So we we [1:12:08] would expect that to come in higher. [1:12:11] Your actual expenditures um came in $2.5 [1:12:15] million lower than what you budgeted. [1:12:17] And at the end of the day, you had a [1:12:19] $4.6 million increase in your budget to [1:12:22] actual. Your budget to actual only [1:12:25] includes your general fund. [1:12:28] And so when we move up to the next [1:12:30] level, your fund financial statements, [1:12:32] which start on page 33, those also [1:12:35] include a general fund. But the [1:12:36] difference is that general fund column [1:12:38] also includes your stabilization funds. [1:12:41] So, when we look at the balances that [1:12:43] are in your general fund on page 33 down [1:12:46] in your fund balance section, you're [1:12:49] going to see that there's a commitment [1:12:51] for continuing appropriations, those are [1:12:52] articles, for $1.8 million. There's a [1:12:55] signed fund balance for incumbrances for [1:12:59] $2.4 million. And then you have an [1:13:01] unassigned balance of $15.3 million. I [1:13:05] wanted to point this out because in your [1:13:07] FY24 report, that amount for your [1:13:10] unassigned was only $849,000 [1:13:14] because of the legal settlement. So, in [1:13:17] FY25, [1:13:18] we saw that um insurance money come in. [1:13:21] We saw the um town issue the $6 million [1:13:25] in long-term bonds. So, that revenue is [1:13:28] now there supporting that number. So, in [1:13:30] FY23, it was 18.6 million. it went down [1:13:34] to the 849,000 and now it's back up to [1:13:37] 15.3 million. That 15.3 million also [1:13:41] includes your stabilization funds. You [1:13:43] had two new stabilization funds in FY25 [1:13:47] in override special purpose and a [1:13:49] special education stabilization fund. [1:13:51] Those totaled about 2.1 million in new [1:13:54] funds. And in total, your stabilization [1:13:57] funds totaled 6.5 million, which is all [1:14:00] encompassed inside of that $15.3 [1:14:03] million number. You also had a major [1:14:06] fund for your town capital projects. [1:14:08] There are certain criteria that needs to [1:14:10] be met for a major fund to be shown on [1:14:12] your fund financial statements and that [1:14:15] fund clearly met that requirement. Um, [1:14:18] so that's shown there. And then you have [1:14:19] your non- major governmental funds. The [1:14:23] good thing about having an annual [1:14:24] comprehensive financial report is that [1:14:27] in the back of the of the financial [1:14:29] statements themselves way in the back [1:14:31] you have combining schedules. So that [1:14:33] breaks out each of the types of your [1:14:35] special revenue funds, any other capital [1:14:37] project funds and your permanent funds. [1:14:39] So you can have a little bit deeper [1:14:42] detail in um in what makes up those that [1:14:45] non- major governmental funds column. [1:14:47] Every year we reassess what those major [1:14:50] funds are and we move them between major [1:14:52] and non- major based on what those [1:14:54] assessments come back to. Then if we [1:14:57] move up another level [1:15:00] starting um just four pages before that [1:15:03] on page 29 these are your full acral [1:15:05] financial statements. So this is where [1:15:07] it encompasses your governmental [1:15:08] activities which is made up of all those [1:15:10] governmental funds. So, your general [1:15:11] funds, special revenue, capital [1:15:12] projects, permanent funds, um, and then [1:15:15] your business type activities are your [1:15:16] enterprise funds, all lumped together. [1:15:19] Your enterprise funds are shown there, [1:15:21] and they're also shown on your [1:15:22] proprietary fund statements. The [1:15:24] proprietary fund statements, just break [1:15:25] them out into the individual ones where [1:15:28] they're lumped together on your [1:15:29] statement of net position and statement [1:15:30] of activities. [1:15:33] Two big things we talk about every year. [1:15:34] The two big items on here are your OPED [1:15:37] and your pension. So, two liabilities [1:15:40] currently being funded. Um, your pension [1:15:43] is at as of I should say um the end of [1:15:47] FY25. The liability was $11.6 [1:15:54] million. [1:15:55] Did I say that? Do I have that right? [1:15:57] Yep. Um, the pension plan is 75.2% [1:16:01] funded. The discount rate hasn't [1:16:03] changed. It has stayed at 7.125% since [1:16:06] the prior year. and your current year [1:16:09] investment return was 10.86% [1:16:11] which was a little bit down from the [1:16:12] year before of 13%. So funding is [1:16:15] scheduled out to um fiscal year 2033. [1:16:20] Massachusetts law says it has to be [1:16:22] fully funded by 2040. So you're in line [1:16:24] with having that funded in time. um [1:16:28] pension also there's Mass General law [1:16:30] requires that you're funding this unlike [1:16:32] OPED with your OPED liability that was [1:16:36] actually a liability at the end of uh [1:16:39] June 2025 of $176 million that was up [1:16:44] slightly um from the prior year by $6 [1:16:46] million. [1:16:48] your OPED trust fund, which is reported [1:16:51] in your fiduciary statements. That's the [1:16:53] money that you vote to set aside to fund [1:16:56] this um OPED liability in the future. [1:16:58] That had a balance of $29 million at the [1:17:01] end of fiscal year 25. That was up from [1:17:03] 25.8 million the year before. The [1:17:06] discount rate slightly changed, went [1:17:07] from 6.46% [1:17:09] um or that's the new one, down from [1:17:11] 6.47%. [1:17:14] So, of that um of the amount that's in [1:17:16] your OPED trust fund, there's two [1:17:19] different amounts that you keep. You [1:17:20] maintain a separate one for town that [1:17:22] has 17.8 million of the 28 or 29 million [1:17:27] and the belt has 11.2 million of that [1:17:29] invested in there. [1:17:32] One of the things you're going to notice [1:17:34] in this year's financial statements is [1:17:35] there was a restatement. And the [1:17:37] restatement was because in FY25 there [1:17:40] was a new gazsby that was issued Gazsby [1:17:42] 101 which related to compensated [1:17:44] absences. So as part of the [1:17:46] implementation of that gazsby we [1:17:49] reassessed what that liability would [1:17:51] have been had it come into play on 7124 [1:17:54] at the beginning of the fiscal year. So [1:17:57] that change was over materiality for [1:18:00] both your governmental activities and [1:18:02] for your business type activities. So in [1:18:04] total there was a restatement of $4.5 [1:18:06] million to recognize that implementation [1:18:08] of that Gazsby. There's an emphasis of [1:18:11] matter paragraph within the audit [1:18:13] opinion and there's also some um just [1:18:16] some documents or uh um verbiage within [1:18:19] the report about what that was for. [1:18:22] Other than that, your debt was about the [1:18:23] same. You had some new debt. You had [1:18:24] some new um bans that um were issued [1:18:28] school projects, roadway projects, [1:18:31] various other capital projects [1:18:32] throughout the town. Um there were some [1:18:34] golf mowers. Besides that, there wasn't [1:18:37] too much going on with debt payments [1:18:39] looked okay. Your um budget is actually [1:18:43] for your debt payments was about 6%. We [1:18:46] like to see that somewhere between 5 and [1:18:47] 10%. So you're right in line with what [1:18:49] that percentage should be. Um that [1:18:52] basically means you're keeping up with [1:18:53] your capital. You're not letting your [1:18:55] infrastructure fall apart. Um so so [1:18:57] you're you're right where you have been. [1:19:01] And then right at the beginning of the [1:19:03] report is kind of our opinion. That's [1:19:05] the only the three or four pages that we [1:19:07] own in this whole report. The rest of it [1:19:09] all belongs to you. But beyond that, [1:19:11] there's the management discussion and [1:19:12] analysis. If you just want to get an [1:19:15] understanding of what happened with the [1:19:17] town's finances, read that section. It [1:19:20] talks about what the increases were, [1:19:22] what the decreases were, why they were [1:19:24] happening, any special items that [1:19:26] happened. It has a breakout of your [1:19:27] capital asset activity, additions, [1:19:30] disposals. It has the information of [1:19:32] what's happened to your debt, and it [1:19:34] talks about all the different basis of [1:19:35] accounting that we just went through. [1:19:38] Does anybody have any questions? [1:19:42] >> Council Bara, [1:19:43] >> thank you. Uh thank you so much and [1:19:45] appreciate the succinct explanation on a [1:19:48] very long report. I have one quick [1:19:50] question. Um the statistical section [1:19:53] which is so helpful. [1:19:56] >> Um [1:19:57] on page 162 you have the operating [1:20:00] indicators by function and program. I'm [1:20:03] curious where you or how you gather that [1:20:07] information because I see that there's [1:20:09] some in 2024 there's some missing [1:20:11] figures for a couple of the departments. [1:20:13] So, I'm just curious like how do you how are you getting like the number of [1:20:18] false alarms and the number of [1:20:22] you know like [1:20:24] fire hydrants that are in service or out [1:20:26] of service. [1:20:27] >> So, some of it may come from the town [1:20:29] directly. Some of it comes from maybe an [1:20:31] annual report or some other [1:20:33] documentation we receive during the [1:20:35] audit. If there's specific numbers, we [1:20:37] can get to, you know, you where they [1:20:39] came from, but they come from different [1:20:42] sources depending on what it is. [1:20:46] >> Okay. Um All right. I think that [1:20:48] >> miles of public road looks like it [1:20:50] stayed the same, [1:20:51] >> right? Well, that's good. But you never [1:20:53] we sometimes do get some new streets [1:20:55] once in a while. Um Okay. Uh I think [1:20:57] that answers my questions for now. I I [1:20:59] may follow up with Mike after. Thank [1:21:01] you. [1:21:03] >> Thank you, President. [1:21:04] >> Any councelor rounds? [1:21:06] >> I I just want to There's a lot of great [1:21:08] information here and thank you for your [1:21:10] presentation this evening, the concise [1:21:13] um overview. I just want to make sure [1:21:15] that we will have opportunities to [1:21:17] address them for questions when we have [1:21:20] more time to be able to read through. [1:21:22] >> Absolutely. Yes. if if you wouldn't mind [1:21:25] um [1:21:27] uh if we had questions following this [1:21:30] meeting if we could follow up with you. [1:21:32] >> Absolutely. We are always available. [1:21:33] Yes. [1:21:33] >> I know you've always been helpful in the [1:21:35] various places I've interacted with you [1:21:37] guys before. So, um I appreciate that. [1:21:41] >> Thank you. [1:21:41] counselor. [1:21:43] >> Um I just want to point to a couple of [1:21:46] things. You mentioned a $10 million [1:21:48] revenue surplus or in excess of forecast [1:21:52] revenues that represents about a 6% [1:21:56] um over predicted. Is that in line with [1:22:00] where you would want things to be? I [1:22:03] know that um we have to be conservative. [1:22:07] Uh but were we too conservative? Were we [1:22:10] just right conservative? Uh where are we [1:22:12] in comparison with other towns and as [1:22:14] far as a revenue surplus? [1:22:16] >> Sure. Um, well, for motor vehicle, you [1:22:19] want to be conservative, right? Because [1:22:20] we just don't know, right? There's no [1:22:21] sort of guarantee there. If you're [1:22:23] conservative in your revenue budgets and [1:22:25] you get you take in more than you [1:22:27] planned, it drops to free cash. You can [1:22:29] appropriate that and you can use it. If [1:22:31] you go the other way and you're not [1:22:32] conservative enough, you don't you have [1:22:34] a deficit, you're going to have to raise [1:22:36] that the next year. So, we like to see [1:22:38] conservative [1:22:40] Oh, yep. Sure. Um, I'll just repeat that [1:22:42] quickly. If you're conservative and you [1:22:45] have a revenue surplus, it drops to free [1:22:47] cash and you can appropriate that money. [1:22:49] If you are not conservative enough and [1:22:51] you have a revenue deficit, you are [1:22:52] required to raise that in the next [1:22:54] fiscal year. So, it would impact future [1:22:56] fiscal years. So, we do want to see [1:22:58] conservative um real estate really you [1:23:01] are budgeting for that that you're going [1:23:03] to collect 100%. That is just timing. [1:23:06] So, if real estate if you saw a deficit [1:23:09] there, you're going to get your money [1:23:10] for real estate. you're gonna, you know, [1:23:12] you have means to be able to collect [1:23:13] that. So, we really want to see [1:23:15] conservativeness in um investment [1:23:18] earnings because that can go up or down [1:23:20] depending on how much cash you have, [1:23:21] depending on the markets and and so [1:23:23] forth. U motor vehicle, I mentioned you [1:23:26] want to be conservative, permits, things [1:23:27] like that. So, there's nothing there [1:23:30] that looked out of line. I think [1:23:31] investment earnings have been very very [1:23:33] strong. Motor vehicle collections have [1:23:35] continued to be very, very strong. So, [1:23:37] we are seeing surpluses in most [1:23:38] communities. [1:23:40] >> Thank you. Thank you. The other thing I [1:23:41] wanted to point out, you mentioned $2.5 [1:23:43] million in operational surplus, which [1:23:46] represents about a 1.4% [1:23:49] operational surplus over what was [1:23:50] budgeted. Um, I always, you know, when I [1:23:54] was a town administrator, I would always [1:23:56] try to look for free cash to be [1:23:59] generated from revenue surplus as well [1:24:02] as operational surplus. And I'd try to [1:24:04] get to a a 5050 situation. Here, we're [1:24:08] not getting that. And I think it's [1:24:10] because we budget we're budgeting tight. [1:24:12] But um is this 1.4 operational [1:24:16] percent operational surplus in line with [1:24:19] what you're seeing with other [1:24:20] communities? [1:24:22] >> I'll answer that. There's differences. [1:24:24] Some communities are very very tight [1:24:26] budgets and you have almost nothing [1:24:27] turned back. Those departments needed [1:24:29] that much money to run the operations. [1:24:33] You'll they use it sort of as a means to [1:24:35] generate free cash. they expect to turn [1:24:38] back money [1:24:40] education you don't really see much turn [1:24:41] back in education um but it's this money [1:24:46] generally comes from the town side [1:24:49] because the schools need to keep it or [1:24:53] we'll find something to do within that [1:24:55] fiscal year so that they don't [1:24:57] generational circle that's fine but but [1:25:01] um you know I I I think that this shows [1:25:05] that there's good management here of on [1:25:07] the operational side. [1:25:09] >> We want to make sure that you're that [1:25:10] you have controls in place that you're [1:25:12] not overspending. That what you voted [1:25:14] for the budget is what's in your general [1:25:16] ledger and that there is a way to [1:25:17] prevent people from overspending at the [1:25:19] end of the year. You know what happens [1:25:20] at the end of the fiscal year. It can [1:25:22] get very very tight. You may have to [1:25:24] make some adjustments and transfers. We check to make sure that you're voting [1:25:28] everything. What was voted is in the [1:25:30] reports and you're not overspending. But [1:25:32] as far as the right amount of money to [1:25:34] turn back, it's varies from community to [1:25:36] community. [1:25:38] >> My last thing is a a little bit of an [1:25:41] opportunity for you guys to basically describe all the work you [1:25:47] do a little bit more than you do. We [1:25:49] come in, you know, we we see you for [1:25:52] this half an hour. Um what's behind this [1:25:56] half an hour? How how often are you here [1:25:59] when you're doing the audit? How many [1:26:00] personnel are here? How many how many [1:26:02] weeks are involved in that? [1:26:03] >> I will say that's all her that's all [1:26:05] her. [1:26:06] >> Yeah, [laughter] [1:26:06] >> my job is to review and to sign. So, [1:26:08] Roina is going to give you the details [1:26:09] on that. [1:26:09] >> So, usually when we're here for our [1:26:12] planning, it's a week that we have [1:26:13] scheduled. Um that's just to be like [1:26:16] working here whether we're here for [1:26:19] three or four days or just a couple of [1:26:20] days. Um before we even come out, we [1:26:24] have planning that we need to do. We [1:26:27] complete on our end. Um we start to work [1:26:30] on our risk assessment. Um we start to [1:26:33] look at what what single audits need to [1:26:35] be audited and uh have there have been [1:26:38] any changes in personnel. Are there any [1:26:40] changes in the processes? Then we come [1:26:42] in and we start planning. So we start [1:26:45] doing our testing. We start saying what [1:26:47] can we look at now? Like Renee had said, [1:26:48] we look at your budget. That's one thing [1:26:50] we can do prior to the year end because [1:26:53] you voted it a year before. So we can [1:26:56] look at it. We can see where it's at. We [1:26:58] can look to see are there any lines that [1:27:00] right now look, you know, like they're [1:27:02] going to be overexpended. You have a [1:27:04] wonderful finance team. They take care [1:27:06] of it all. It's that's not, you know, a [1:27:08] question. But when we're going through, [1:27:11] we just need to do our due diligence, [1:27:12] right? We are opining on this. We have [1:27:14] to have a sense of comfort. We're not [1:27:16] testing 100% of transactions. We're [1:27:18] looking at the risks. So when we're here [1:27:20] in the spring, it's usually starting our [1:27:22] transaction testing, looking at journal [1:27:24] entries, looking at the detailed general [1:27:26] ledger, asking questions. Are you [1:27:28] reconciled with cash? Did you reconcile [1:27:30] it yesterday because you knew we were [1:27:32] coming out or have you been reconciling [1:27:34] it on a monthly basis? So these are the [1:27:36] things that help us plan our plan the [1:27:38] audit. [1:27:40] Then after when the town's close to [1:27:42] closing, which is typically October, we [1:27:44] come back out and that's when we take [1:27:46] the deep dive, roll up our sleeves, [1:27:47] start looking at the support, start [1:27:49] looking at the trial balance. What what [1:27:51] are these numbers? Are we getting the [1:27:54] proper support? We're looking at the [1:27:55] detailed general ledger. Are there any [1:27:57] journal entries that were recorded to [1:27:59] balance, to reconcile, to fix, to [1:28:02] correct? Um, we have a separate data [1:28:05] service center that runs reports, [1:28:07] analytical reports for us that helps us [1:28:09] to identify those. We're, like I said, [1:28:12] we're we're making selections that are [1:28:15] unpredictability [1:28:16] so that way there's surprises in what [1:28:18] we're selecting. But when we're out [1:28:20] here, we spend quite a bit of time. [1:28:22] We're we're sifting through bank [1:28:23] statements. We're sifting through [1:28:25] transactions. Um, we're we're looking at [1:28:28] the census data testing that came from [1:28:30] the actuary and testing those files to [1:28:32] make sure that that information has been [1:28:35] accurately reported. Uh, we're visiting [1:28:37] the retirement system to to put together [1:28:40] that report. So, we're testing the [1:28:41] census data there. We're testing against [1:28:43] the fair value of investments. We're [1:28:45] sending confirmations. So, there is a [1:28:48] lot that goes into these numbers. Can [1:28:50] tell you we know them inside out and [1:28:52] backwards by the time we're done. And we [1:28:54] have a very very good comfort level when [1:28:57] we put together this report. Any [1:28:59] questions that we have, Mike, Mark, [1:29:02] Christina, they've been great. We ask [1:29:04] for something, they get it to us right [1:29:06] away. I mean, you do have a very strong, [1:29:08] wonderful finance team here. Um, and [1:29:11] then after we leave the field, we're [1:29:12] just compiling. So, sometimes we're [1:29:14] waiting for some information, whether it [1:29:16] be an OPED valuation or just some odds [1:29:18] and ends. And that's when we're while [1:29:21] we're here, we're putting together this [1:29:22] report. But then at the end we're [1:29:25] looking at analytics. What were the [1:29:27] expectations? What did we think was [1:29:30] going to happen during our planning and [1:29:32] did that happen? Were there any [1:29:34] surprises? Um we send legal confirms. [1:29:37] Last year we learned about the legal se [1:29:39] settlement from Mike which had to go [1:29:40] into the FY24 financial statements [1:29:42] because it happened in September. Um so [1:29:45] that's kind of what we do in the in on [1:29:48] the side. We're testing single audit and [1:29:50] we're, you know, so there's a lot that [1:29:51] goes into it. Even if you only see us [1:29:53] here a few weeks out of the year, [1:29:55] there's always someone working, someone [1:29:58] getting this closer to being issued. [1:30:00] >> Thank you for for taking the time to [1:30:02] explain that. I think it's important for [1:30:04] the public to know [1:30:06] um that this is not prefuncter what you [1:30:10] do that this is a deep dive and a very [1:30:14] analytical [1:30:16] um review of of the town's financial [1:30:20] systems and its performance. [1:30:23] And that should be reassuring to the [1:30:25] public because you are independent. You [1:30:28] uh you know you are not employees of the [1:30:31] town of Bantry. you're looking [1:30:33] independently and your professional [1:30:35] reputation and uh is tied to what you [1:30:40] report. So you would jeopardize your [1:30:42] career if you've sugarcoated anything in [1:30:45] here. Um and this is just one part. Then [1:30:50] there's a department of revenue who [1:30:51] looks at what we do as well. And then [1:30:54] there are the internal controls that we [1:30:56] put on ourselves. [1:30:58] So it's important. I I think I really [1:31:01] appreciate you taking the time to just give everyone an idea of of the [1:31:07] thoroughess of of your review. I [1:31:09] appreciate it. Are there any other [1:31:11] questions from the council? Well, thank [1:31:14] you very much for your report. I'm sure [1:31:16] that there will be followup. Um and [1:31:18] thank you for for the concise way in [1:31:21] which you explained it. [1:31:22] >> Of course. Thank you very much. [1:31:24] Appreciate it. [1:31:24] >> Thank you. [1:31:29] Okay, [1:31:31] I believe we are now moving to new [1:31:34] business. [1:31:35] Um, [1:31:38] there's a call, there's a placeholder [1:31:41] for October 6, 2026. No action required [1:31:44] this evening. [snorts] Um, are we [1:31:47] referring these to committees or we're [1:31:49] just [1:31:50] >> reading them in? [1:31:50] >> Just to let you just to let you know, [1:31:52] it'll be voted next meeting. [1:31:54] >> So, we'll have a call to the election at our next meeting. Uh, our next [1:31:59] meeting is scheduled um for Tuesday, [1:32:02] October 6, 2026 at 7:30 p.m. Thank you [1:32:07] to Bcam for televising tonight. Bill [1:32:09] Nem, Jerry Kak, and Dave Maybrook. Uh, [1:32:12] at this point, I will entertain a motion [1:32:14] to adjurnn. [1:32:15] >> Motion to adjurnn. [1:32:16] >> Second. [1:32:17] >> Motion's been made and seconded. All [1:32:18] those in favor? I, [1:32:20] >> it's a unanimous good night.