1 00:03:23,318 --> 00:03:27,458 good morning councillor Williams checking in 2 00:03:27,458 --> 00:03:29,488 good morning council Williams thank you you're coming through loud 3 00:03:29,488 --> 00:03:39,578 and clear 4 00:03:56,968 --> 00:03:59,718 one peer council instructing in 5 00:03:59,718 --> 00:04:01,718 good morning councillor Willhans thank you you're coming through loud 6 00:04:01,718 --> 00:04:02,968 and clear 7 00:04:02,968 --> 00:04:13,578 I thank you 8 00:04:42,138 --> 00:04:46,088 the more 9 00:04:46,088 --> 00:04:48,348 good morning cancer Fortini I we just caught part of 10 00:04:48,348 --> 00:04:50,028 that but you were coming through loud and clear do 11 00:04:50,028 --> 00:04:52,808 you want to just confirm again please yeah thank you 12 00:04:52,808 --> 00:04:54,108 sorry 13 00:04:54,108 --> 00:05:06,228 okay thank you yes loud and clear thank you 14 00:07:44,208 --> 00:07:48,208 it is also diligently get 15 00:07:48,208 --> 00:08:00,868 thank you councillor Dhillon you're coming through loud and clear 16 00:10:58,618 --> 00:11:09,898 test yeah 17 00:11:10,068 --> 00:11:13,238 as we need for this to start 18 00:11:13,238 --> 00:11:24,418 this is setting the stage 19 00:12:33,238 --> 00:12:36,738 members of council we're just sorting out a technical issue 20 00:12:37,108 --> 00:12:41,898 ... but we are ready to start 21 00:12:41,898 --> 00:12:43,948 as we begin today's meeting we'd like to acknowledge that 22 00:12:43,948 --> 00:12:46,298 we are gathered here today on the Treaty Territory the 23 00:12:46,298 --> 00:12:48,828 Mississaugas of the Credit First Nations before them the traditional 24 00:12:48,828 --> 00:12:52,688 territory the Hodas the Huron and Wendat we also acknowledge 25 00:12:52,688 --> 00:12:55,258 the many First Nations Métis Inuit and other global indigenous 26 00:12:55,258 --> 00:12:57,788 people they now call Brampton their home we are honored 27 00:12:57,788 --> 00:13:00,438 to live work and enjoy this land before we start 28 00:13:00,438 --> 00:13:03,518 today's meeting I asked we remember those within our community 29 00:13:03,518 --> 00:13:06,518 who have passed or suffering from COVID nineteen and also 30 00:13:06,518 --> 00:13:11,328 to reflect ... on our various community frontline workers health 31 00:13:11,328 --> 00:13:15,168 care providers and first responders who sacrifice so much for 32 00:13:15,168 --> 00:13:19,118 our community and join our moment of reflection I think 33 00:13:19,118 --> 00:13:20,708 you would be 34 00:13:20,708 --> 00:13:24,428 important add to also reflect on the tremendous loss that 35 00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:29,268 we saw this week ... and Alice Dr ... subdivision 36 00:13:29,598 --> 00:13:33,918 we're three brothers brothers perished in a residential a fire 37 00:13:34,808 --> 00:13:39,288 brigade I just wanna ignore Lynch 38 00:13:39,288 --> 00:13:42,828 how difficult that is not only for the family but 39 00:13:42,828 --> 00:13:46,028 our first responders who did everything we one firefighter risked 40 00:13:46,028 --> 00:13:50,388 his own life trying to ... save these children ... 41 00:13:50,418 --> 00:13:54,058 but certainly no words ... adequately describe this loss and 42 00:13:54,058 --> 00:13:57,078 if we could certainly 43 00:13:57,078 --> 00:14:01,258 during this moment of reflection remember them and this tragedy 44 00:14:01,258 --> 00:14:05,958 for the family and ... thank you ... cancer Williams 45 00:14:05,958 --> 00:14:09,668 Ann Fortini who wrote door knocking on fire prevention last 46 00:14:09,668 --> 00:14:13,018 night trying to make sure no other tragedy like this 47 00:14:13,128 --> 00:14:17,548 doesn't happen again ... I know cancer Fortini has helped 48 00:14:17,658 --> 00:14:22,428 the family with lodging arrangements as well but 49 00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:24,028 you know just as a as a parent to makes 50 00:14:24,028 --> 00:14:26,698 you go number 51 00:14:26,698 --> 00:14:28,808 please all rise for the singing of our national anthem 52 00:14:28,808 --> 00:14:42,408 to be followed by a moment of personal reflection click 53 00:15:36,898 --> 00:15:47,268 we 54 00:16:41,908 --> 00:16:48,548 thank you 55 00:16:48,548 --> 00:16:51,478 welcome to our regular council meeting January twenty six twenty 56 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:53,978 twenty two we will begin with a meeting with the 57 00:16:53,978 --> 00:16:58,248 city for calling the role for attendance at these meetings 58 00:16:58,248 --> 00:17:00,118 good morning members of council I will call your name 59 00:17:00,118 --> 00:17:06,948 please indicate your presence in today's meeting councilor Dillon 60 00:17:06,948 --> 00:17:13,478 president thank you councillor Singh 61 00:17:13,478 --> 00:17:16,778 brother thank you councillor Fortini 62 00:17:16,778 --> 00:17:20,108 good morning I'm here thank you counsel Williams 63 00:17:20,108 --> 00:17:23,958 good morning I'm here thank you counsel Maduro's 64 00:17:23,958 --> 00:17:26,588 I hear thank you councillor Bowman 65 00:17:26,588 --> 00:17:30,208 present thank you counsel policy 66 00:17:30,208 --> 00:17:34,348 good morning thank you councillor Willhans 67 00:17:34,348 --> 00:17:38,828 thank you cancer center 68 00:17:38,828 --> 00:17:41,728 president thank you councillor Santos 69 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:44,358 hello good morning thank you and Mayor Brown is present 70 00:17:44,358 --> 00:17:47,108 all eleven members of present Mr Mayor we're now on 71 00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:50,158 item to approve the agenda does any member wish to 72 00:17:50,158 --> 00:17:53,628 add a business item to today's meeting 73 00:17:53,628 --> 00:17:57,188 if so please user chat function at adding to the 74 00:17:57,188 --> 00:17:59,768 speakers list 75 00:17:59,768 --> 00:18:00,918 in 76 00:18:00,918 --> 00:18:03,048 in the clerk is keeping the chart listings we don't 77 00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:05,548 have a chat list ... 78 00:18:05,548 --> 00:18:08,818 councillor Willhans 79 00:18:08,818 --> 00:18:10,908 thank you through you Mayor I'm wondering if it would 80 00:18:10,908 --> 00:18:13,108 be and then those of council that we can bring 81 00:18:13,108 --> 00:18:14,888 forward the ... 82 00:18:14,888 --> 00:18:19,738 reconsideration motion regarding the four thirteen ... my reasoning behind 83 00:18:19,738 --> 00:18:22,008 it is in light of the current amount spent by 84 00:18:22,008 --> 00:18:25,658 the provincial government to move forward with the meeting before 85 00:18:25,658 --> 00:18:29,298 with a series of waters which I wish and 86 00:18:29,298 --> 00:18:31,628 so we can bring that forward and then 87 00:18:31,628 --> 00:18:33,958 I understand there's no debate about it it's just a 88 00:18:33,958 --> 00:18:37,538 simple ... talk to reconsider it last Peter that time 89 00:18:37,758 --> 00:18:39,518 to start with that we ask for a recorded vote 90 00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:42,098 on that and then if it passes Peter perhaps you 91 00:18:42,098 --> 00:18:45,258 can explain briefly on the procedure bylaws the next steps 92 00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:47,918 with regards to the reconsideration of the passes or doesn't 93 00:18:47,918 --> 00:18:49,458 pass 94 00:18:49,458 --> 00:18:52,098 so the first step would be reconsideration ... to the 95 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:54,138 court we do that right now 96 00:18:54,138 --> 00:18:56,568 through through you Mr Mayor I I suggest we complete 97 00:18:56,568 --> 00:18:58,878 the approval of the agenda and then if this council 98 00:18:58,878 --> 00:19:01,608 will answer suggesting bring it forward I guess the suggestion 99 00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:04,238 is where bring forward immediately after approve the agenda that 100 00:19:04,238 --> 00:19:06,488 that could be considered 101 00:19:06,488 --> 00:19:09,318 so after the approval of the agenda motion carries ... 102 00:19:09,318 --> 00:19:12,038 then we can deal with whether it has emissions yes 103 00:19:12,198 --> 00:19:13,508 okay 104 00:19:13,508 --> 00:19:16,508 okay are there any other additions to the agenda or 105 00:19:16,978 --> 00:19:21,848 doing cancer Dhillon 106 00:19:21,848 --> 00:19:24,478 so I'd like to add a 107 00:19:24,478 --> 00:19:28,038 in camera item 108 00:19:28,038 --> 00:19:29,878 109 00:19:29,878 --> 00:19:31,858 I don't know if you have the therefore if you 110 00:19:31,858 --> 00:19:36,698 Peter I think ... legal was also ... working on 111 00:19:36,698 --> 00:19:37,878 this 112 00:19:37,878 --> 00:19:40,718 through you Mr Mayor ... yes so if I understand 113 00:19:40,718 --> 00:19:43,088 there's a land use matter ... that would be identified 114 00:19:43,088 --> 00:19:46,448 as proposed item nineteen point twelve ... proposed by cancer 115 00:19:46,448 --> 00:19:49,208 Dillon open session meeting exception under section two thirty nine 116 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:52,998 to Ian after the municipal act litigation potential litigation including 117 00:19:52,998 --> 00:19:56,718 matters before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality or local board 118 00:19:56,938 --> 00:19:59,668 and advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege including 119 00:19:59,848 --> 00:20:06,568 communications necessary for that purpose 120 00:20:06,568 --> 00:20:10,538 councillor Medeiros 121 00:20:10,538 --> 00:20:15,008 I can't meters 122 00:20:15,008 --> 00:20:18,118 thank you Mr mayor of that city clerk election request 123 00:20:18,518 --> 00:20:22,258 ... that change of order regarding the in camera items 124 00:20:22,678 --> 00:20:27,948 ... I believe ... so the nineteen point nine in 125 00:20:27,948 --> 00:20:31,288 nineteen point and if we can reverse the order the 126 00:20:31,288 --> 00:20:36,988 rather deal with nineteen point ten before nineteen point ninety 127 00:20:36,988 --> 00:20:39,018 through you Mr Mayor that's noted for a part of 128 00:20:39,018 --> 00:20:41,758 the approval of the agenda motion certainly 129 00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:42,918 thank you 130 00:20:42,918 --> 00:20:46,568 cancer Fortini cancer Fortini 131 00:20:46,568 --> 00:20:49,208 yes thank you Mr Mayor but Peter I did send 132 00:20:49,208 --> 00:20:52,918 the request and are both ... one was in camera 133 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:56,378 bottle cap catwalk Storebrand and the other one was about 134 00:20:56,378 --> 00:20:59,498 the Brampton you and I'll see on the agenda 135 00:20:59,498 --> 00:21:01,558 I did talk to legal 136 00:21:01,558 --> 00:21:05,158 ... he was some confusion or maybe she can we 137 00:21:05,188 --> 00:21:07,788 just added to the next council meeting 138 00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:10,398 since the age of this whole 139 00:21:10,398 --> 00:21:12,568 so through you Mr Mayor there's there's two options the 140 00:21:12,568 --> 00:21:15,098 the process and it's going to number members for filing 141 00:21:15,098 --> 00:21:17,058 new business at a city council meeting for which the 142 00:21:17,518 --> 00:21:20,188 city council meeting is a notice of motion in accordance 143 00:21:20,188 --> 00:21:23,668 with the procedure bylaw ... and if that does not 144 00:21:23,668 --> 00:21:25,528 occur in that has to be filed by Tuesday at 145 00:21:25,528 --> 00:21:28,068 four thirty the week preceding the meeting if that does 146 00:21:28,068 --> 00:21:31,368 not occur and as we've experienced members of council are 147 00:21:31,398 --> 00:21:34,258 or welcome to propose new business as is occurring now 148 00:21:34,508 --> 00:21:36,948 and it is subject to council approval by two thirds 149 00:21:36,948 --> 00:21:40,068 vote so you there's two options councillor you can proposed 150 00:21:40,068 --> 00:21:42,498 to add new business now ... subject to the two 151 00:21:42,498 --> 00:21:46,208 thirds vote or you can ... ... proposed to add 152 00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:49,938 it the new business to the February ninth ... council 153 00:21:49,938 --> 00:21:51,818 meeting which is the next meeting is the agendas close 154 00:21:51,818 --> 00:21:55,208 for the next Wednesday's committee of council meeting ... by 155 00:21:55,208 --> 00:21:56,708 a notice of motion that would have to be filed 156 00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:59,498 by next Tuesday at four thirty 157 00:21:59,498 --> 00:22:02,078 yeah and that I'm fine without them I did spend 158 00:22:02,078 --> 00:22:04,748 everything get on the way before so that's where the 159 00:22:04,748 --> 00:22:06,968 confusion is that I did talk to legal so everything 160 00:22:06,968 --> 00:22:09,818 was all of the procedures so since it was already 161 00:22:09,818 --> 00:22:11,348 done I just wanna make sure it's on the to 162 00:22:11,348 --> 00:22:14,588 the next agenda for February ninth so through you Mr 163 00:22:14,588 --> 00:22:16,968 Merrill work with your office council because we will require 164 00:22:16,968 --> 00:22:19,238 if you wish to go to the February ninth city 165 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,408 council meeting it will require a notice of motion to 166 00:22:21,408 --> 00:22:23,828 be properly filed so there is something on the agenda 167 00:22:23,828 --> 00:22:25,948 for members to have notice of of what the item 168 00:22:25,948 --> 00:22:27,748 is about but I can work with your office on 169 00:22:27,748 --> 00:22:29,018 that 170 00:22:29,018 --> 00:22:30,728 okay well I I thought I did send that and 171 00:22:30,728 --> 00:22:33,018 that's all they will set them that's fine I'll send 172 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:37,618 another one thank you 173 00:22:37,618 --> 00:22:41,418 councillor question cancer plushie 174 00:22:41,418 --> 00:22:43,488 thank you Mr Mayor so I'm having a little bit 175 00:22:43,488 --> 00:22:47,918 of difficulty supporting any additions to the agenda and I 176 00:22:47,918 --> 00:22:52,108 think cancer Fortini for ... removing the application that he 177 00:22:52,108 --> 00:22:55,108 feels he will give properly put in place to the 178 00:22:55,108 --> 00:22:58,158 next council meeting ... 179 00:22:58,158 --> 00:23:03,348 I think additions that this council has has normally done 180 00:23:03,348 --> 00:23:07,008 has been done in the past can maybe not so 181 00:23:07,008 --> 00:23:10,398 much as council which gratified 182 00:23:10,398 --> 00:23:14,998 and since ... you Mr Mayor through through you to 183 00:23:15,028 --> 00:23:18,428 cancer Dillon I don't know anything about your in camera 184 00:23:18,428 --> 00:23:23,488 added item ... if if if stop prosecutors added I 185 00:23:23,488 --> 00:23:26,598 would have liked to have heard back and yet since 186 00:23:26,598 --> 00:23:30,408 I didn't hear that I can't support adding an addition 187 00:23:30,408 --> 00:23:35,088 specifically in camera to council if there's an opportunity to 188 00:23:35,088 --> 00:23:38,188 add it I would support that community if that was 189 00:23:38,188 --> 00:23:41,398 an opportunity but if it's time sensitive maybe you can 190 00:23:41,858 --> 00:23:45,248 elaborate or if ... and email can be sent out 191 00:23:45,248 --> 00:23:48,828 by staff or something to the effect ... but Intel 192 00:23:48,828 --> 00:23:52,218 then I I just can't support in addition specifically to 193 00:23:52,218 --> 00:23:55,098 in camera 194 00:23:55,098 --> 00:23:56,968 thank you Mr Mayor 195 00:23:56,968 --> 00:24:00,308 embarrassed by Mr misspelled to doing yes 196 00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:02,998 yes ... it staff staff is asking for this is 197 00:24:02,998 --> 00:24:08,308 time sensitive as well 198 00:24:08,308 --> 00:24:13,468 to to cancer Palleschi 199 00:24:13,468 --> 00:24:16,188 thank you councillor Dhillon Mr Mayor tree you can I 200 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:21,318 get a staff response please 201 00:24:21,318 --> 00:24:26,478 Megyn Singh I can speak to this yes 202 00:24:26,478 --> 00:24:29,068 this is ... through the chair this is a land 203 00:24:29,068 --> 00:24:32,248 use planning matter which ... 204 00:24:32,248 --> 00:24:35,398 it is the subject of litigation and there is a 205 00:24:35,398 --> 00:24:41,068 development that happened on this matter ... very very recently 206 00:24:41,098 --> 00:24:45,138 as in within the last couple of days ... and 207 00:24:45,138 --> 00:24:48,258 this is something which I think will benefit council to 208 00:24:48,258 --> 00:24:50,438 consider it will give direction to staff and how to 209 00:24:50,438 --> 00:24:53,148 proceed on this matter 210 00:24:53,148 --> 00:24:56,918 and and and as I said it is ... it 211 00:24:57,128 --> 00:25:00,948 this development just occurred and ... it is very time 212 00:25:00,948 --> 00:25:03,738 sensitive and the decision has to be made ... very 213 00:25:03,738 --> 00:25:10,998 quickly 214 00:25:10,998 --> 00:25:14,398 I think is ridiculous I don't think Mr 215 00:25:14,398 --> 00:25:17,108 okay 216 00:25:17,108 --> 00:25:23,758 councillor or something councillor some 217 00:25:23,758 --> 00:25:28,078 thank you very much Mayor I've just asked council's indulgence 218 00:25:28,078 --> 00:25:31,148 ... with regards to a briefing notes that was sent 219 00:25:31,148 --> 00:25:35,338 out ... yesterday ... to all members of council regarding 220 00:25:35,338 --> 00:25:39,578 the Rogers relocation ... Mr Clark is it possible for 221 00:25:39,578 --> 00:25:41,738 us to include that 222 00:25:41,738 --> 00:25:46,628 ... as ... as part of today's agenda and the 223 00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:48,158 record 224 00:25:48,158 --> 00:25:50,468 through you Mr Mayor yes it is possible and if 225 00:25:50,468 --> 00:25:52,828 you're proposing to add that briefing note it would be 226 00:25:52,828 --> 00:25:56,298 added under the planning ... and economic development section as 227 00:25:56,298 --> 00:25:59,118 item ten point four point one and subject to it 228 00:25:59,118 --> 00:26:01,418 being approved it will be included in the revised agenda 229 00:26:01,418 --> 00:26:03,678 will be published later this morning 230 00:26:03,678 --> 00:26:07,628 thank 231 00:26:07,628 --> 00:26:11,128 okay so Mr Mayor that looks like a concludes one 232 00:26:11,188 --> 00:26:13,518 and I was also going to see ... suggest that 233 00:26:13,678 --> 00:26:17,168 to the court that we refer item nineteen point five 234 00:26:17,168 --> 00:26:25,658 to committee of council next week 235 00:26:25,658 --> 00:26:26,918 okay 236 00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:29,608 and ... Mr Mayor don't seek out I see cancer 237 00:26:29,608 --> 00:26:31,898 Singh councillor Singh 238 00:26:31,898 --> 00:26:36,198 nobody them good actually thank 239 00:26:36,198 --> 00:26:39,708 so Mr Mayor I'll just ... summarize for committee's benefit 240 00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:42,088 for the vote on the changes to the agenda and 241 00:26:42,088 --> 00:26:45,028 I also just wish to note that ... item seven 242 00:26:45,028 --> 00:26:48,248 point four on today's agenda is ... delegation from Rogers 243 00:26:48,248 --> 00:26:51,998 communication in regard to their correspondence fourteen point three ... 244 00:26:51,998 --> 00:26:54,528 in a request for a council resolution endorsement on a 245 00:26:54,528 --> 00:26:58,098 minister zoning order there are three delegations that are included 246 00:26:58,128 --> 00:27:00,888 on the revised agenda we did receive this morning a 247 00:27:00,888 --> 00:27:03,908 fourth delegation from Sylvia Roberts so that would be a 248 00:27:03,908 --> 00:27:06,988 force delegation just a note for item seven point four 249 00:27:07,178 --> 00:27:11,258 on today's agenda so in summary the items proposed for 250 00:27:11,258 --> 00:27:15,068 the approval of the agenda is subject to the following 251 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:18,388 any forward noticeable reconsideration notice of motion fifteen point one 252 00:27:18,758 --> 00:27:22,418 to be considered immediately after approval of the agenda motion 253 00:27:22,448 --> 00:27:25,668 and record a vote is requested on that reconsideration motion 254 00:27:26,028 --> 00:27:29,338 a proposed addition of nineteen point twelve from cancer Dillon 255 00:27:29,618 --> 00:27:31,938 and that's for the open meeting exceptions under section two 256 00:27:31,938 --> 00:27:35,028 thirty nine PM asks of the municipal act litigation and 257 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:39,088 solicitor client privilege ... counselor Madeiros has requested change of 258 00:27:39,088 --> 00:27:41,908 order for the in camera ... portion of the agenda 259 00:27:42,128 --> 00:27:46,038 ... to ... proceed with item nineteen point ten before 260 00:27:46,038 --> 00:27:52,328 nineteen point nine ... and just as we've added twelve 261 00:27:52,328 --> 00:27:55,018 through councillor for Sunday's request a briefing note from economic 262 00:27:55,018 --> 00:27:57,048 development that will be added to the agenda as ten 263 00:27:57,048 --> 00:28:00,718 point four point one and finally ... the Mayor has 264 00:28:00,718 --> 00:28:03,548 requested that item nineteen point five on the closed agenda 265 00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:06,188 be referred to committee of council closed session next week 266 00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:11,338 and I believe those are all the changes proposed 267 00:28:11,338 --> 00:28:14,988 okay so we have the approval the gender moved by 268 00:28:15,038 --> 00:28:18,998 a councillor Mr Mayor yes I support yes cancer Fortini 269 00:28:19,288 --> 00:28:21,308 yeah I like to move I can't find the number 270 00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:24,238 for the brand our program walls but also for the 271 00:28:24,238 --> 00:28:31,068 next our committee okay so brown 272 00:28:31,068 --> 00:28:34,078 can can certainly in there which I'm not sure if 273 00:28:34,078 --> 00:28:36,188 you can explain to the court 274 00:28:36,188 --> 00:28:38,378 yeah it was a report of a dark brown walls 275 00:28:38,378 --> 00:28:41,008 noise walls and trying to find that I canceled our 276 00:28:41,008 --> 00:28:44,488 honor which numbers are also ... if you move to 277 00:28:44,488 --> 00:28:47,068 the next committee my my apologies thank you cancer so 278 00:28:47,068 --> 00:28:50,648 ... that is referred item it's identified as thirteen point 279 00:28:50,978 --> 00:28:53,618 three on today's agenda it was on the committee agenda 280 00:28:53,618 --> 00:28:56,218 last week with some technical issues because there were some 281 00:28:56,218 --> 00:28:59,818 associated video delegations that we couldn't play back so those 282 00:28:59,818 --> 00:29:02,638 delegations there are three of them listed under item seven 283 00:29:02,638 --> 00:29:06,148 point three and the report thirteen point three is on 284 00:29:06,148 --> 00:29:08,308 the agenda so are you proposing to refer all of 285 00:29:08,308 --> 00:29:10,568 that to committee next week 286 00:29:10,568 --> 00:29:14,208 longhaul sorry Mr our work it's our work or brown 287 00:29:14,638 --> 00:29:19,318 wall noise walls is a reporter for Garbrandt so three 288 00:29:19,908 --> 00:29:22,068 through you Mr Mayor I I'm not familiar with that 289 00:29:22,068 --> 00:29:27,408 report on today's agenda perhaps staff can elaborate 290 00:29:27,408 --> 00:29:34,618 okay also the leverage legally I will throw thank you 291 00:29:34,618 --> 00:29:37,488 what my mistake okay okay thank you have seventeen we 292 00:29:37,488 --> 00:29:40,388 have a motion to approve the agenda moved by councillor 293 00:29:40,638 --> 00:29:45,428 Singh and seconded by councillor ... Williams they Jennifer the 294 00:29:45,428 --> 00:29:48,498 council meeting January twenty six twenty twenty to be approved 295 00:29:48,498 --> 00:29:53,218 as amended 296 00:29:53,218 --> 00:29:55,438 instead of seeking recordable for this item I'll ask is 297 00:29:55,438 --> 00:29:57,478 anyone opposed to this motion otherwise your vote will count 298 00:29:57,478 --> 00:30:00,908 in the formative is there any one opposed 299 00:30:00,908 --> 00:30:04,518 hearing none the motion carries this takes us to tackle 300 00:30:04,578 --> 00:30:07,878 declarations of interest on the municipal conflict of interest act 301 00:30:07,878 --> 00:30:10,228 as any member have a declaration of pecuniary interest under 302 00:30:10,228 --> 00:30:12,738 the Municipal conflict of interest act for any matter to 303 00:30:12,738 --> 00:30:16,028 be considered on today's agenda 304 00:30:16,028 --> 00:30:18,318 seeing none the clerk will so note for the meeting 305 00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:20,828 minutes so Mr Mayor yes with the approval of the 306 00:30:20,828 --> 00:30:23,238 agenda there was the very the order to to bring 307 00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:26,868 forward and deal with reconsideration motion fifteen point one which 308 00:30:26,918 --> 00:30:30,448 would be the appropriate time now okay so ... as 309 00:30:30,478 --> 00:30:35,708 councillor Willhans ... specified we've already considered ... the four 310 00:30:35,708 --> 00:30:38,958 thirteen issue ... and so to reconsider it there have 311 00:30:38,958 --> 00:30:42,408 to be a vote to reconsider ... so the clerk 312 00:30:42,408 --> 00:30:45,968 will conduct ... that vote to see whether there is 313 00:30:45,968 --> 00:30:53,618 enough support to reconsider the four thirteen issue 314 00:30:53,618 --> 00:30:56,298 Mr mayor members of council recorded vote has been requested 315 00:30:56,328 --> 00:30:59,138 on the motion to reconsider council's previous decision on this 316 00:30:59,138 --> 00:31:05,548 matter all in favor of reconsideration please indicate councillor Dylan 317 00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:09,768 hello that's a no councillor Singh 318 00:31:09,768 --> 00:31:14,028 no it's a no councillor Fortini 319 00:31:14,028 --> 00:31:17,438 well it's a no counselor Williams 320 00:31:17,438 --> 00:31:18,938 no 321 00:31:18,938 --> 00:31:21,988 that's a no councillor Madeiros 322 00:31:21,988 --> 00:31:24,338 hello 323 00:31:24,338 --> 00:31:26,818 sorry can somebody else can you clear was I don't 324 00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:31,578 know no no thank you councillor Bowman 325 00:31:31,578 --> 00:31:35,068 yes it's a yes councillor Palleschi 326 00:31:35,068 --> 00:31:39,108 yes that's a yes councillor Willhans 327 00:31:39,108 --> 00:31:43,538 yes it's a yes council presenting 328 00:31:43,538 --> 00:31:46,828 yes yes councillor Santos 329 00:31:46,828 --> 00:31:50,428 yes that's a yes Mayor Brown no 330 00:31:50,428 --> 00:31:52,638 it's a note 331 00:31:52,638 --> 00:31:55,438 the required two thirds has not been achieved the vote 332 00:31:55,468 --> 00:32:00,018 is five in favor six opposed 333 00:32:00,018 --> 00:32:03,298 okay can you previously 334 00:32:03,298 --> 00:32:05,508 as I'm sure the delegates and people that are this 335 00:32:05,698 --> 00:32:06,828 morning 336 00:32:06,828 --> 00:32:09,118 through you Mr Mayor ... yes very briefly we did 337 00:32:09,118 --> 00:32:11,898 receive in the clerk's office ... well over a dozen 338 00:32:11,898 --> 00:32:16,028 delegation requests on this item as well as correspondence but 339 00:32:16,028 --> 00:32:18,148 all of that was contingent on council making a decision 340 00:32:18,148 --> 00:32:20,258 to reconsider those matters so those are that have joined 341 00:32:20,258 --> 00:32:23,438 the meeting in the ... in the event that council 342 00:32:23,438 --> 00:32:26,088 did reconsider the matter you're welcome to stay to watch 343 00:32:26,088 --> 00:32:29,038 but there will be no delegations or correspondence that has 344 00:32:29,038 --> 00:32:31,528 been submitted considered by council at this meeting on this 345 00:32:31,528 --> 00:32:37,048 matter thank you 346 00:32:37,048 --> 00:32:40,148 okay so this takes us to 347 00:32:40,148 --> 00:32:42,108 the minutes we're now ready to move to the next 348 00:32:42,108 --> 00:32:44,618 item for a public business on today's council agenda item 349 00:32:44,618 --> 00:32:47,268 four minutes we have the following council minutes before us 350 00:32:47,268 --> 00:32:50,668 today minutes city council regular meeting December eighth twenty twenty 351 00:32:50,668 --> 00:32:53,328 one minute city council special meeting December eighth twenty twenty 352 00:32:53,328 --> 00:32:57,048 one minutes city council special meeting December fifteenth twenty twenty 353 00:32:57,048 --> 00:33:00,178 one do any members have any questions or comments regarding 354 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:02,788 the minutes if so please use the chat function Dr 355 00:33:02,788 --> 00:33:06,628 name to the speakers list 356 00:33:06,628 --> 00:33:09,558 I don't see any 357 00:33:09,558 --> 00:33:13,278 I have a motion moved by a councillor Passante and 358 00:33:13,278 --> 00:33:16,078 seconded by councillor Fortini to approve the minutes as published 359 00:33:16,108 --> 00:33:18,788 is there anyone opposed to this motion otherwise your vote 360 00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:21,308 will count in the formative 361 00:33:21,308 --> 00:33:24,898 hearing no objections the motion carries this takes us to 362 00:33:24,898 --> 00:33:28,218 the consent motion process I'll repeat Vicente item that is 363 00:33:28,218 --> 00:33:30,538 subject to the consent motion to and any member me 364 00:33:30,538 --> 00:33:33,388 verbally identify the item to be held for debate during 365 00:33:33,388 --> 00:33:35,688 the meeting any item not held for debate will be 366 00:33:35,688 --> 00:33:38,338 considered as part of the consent motion voted on for 367 00:33:38,338 --> 00:33:40,748 approval any of the following agenda items will not be 368 00:33:40,748 --> 00:33:44,368 subject to the consent motion for approval announcements delegations presentations 369 00:33:44,638 --> 00:33:48,778 added new business member discussion items public question period I'll 370 00:33:48,778 --> 00:33:52,298 start reading the relevant agenda items and members can identify 371 00:33:52,298 --> 00:33:56,348 any items to be held for debate 372 00:33:56,348 --> 00:34:01,388 ten point three one staff report salary administration policy semi 373 00:34:01,388 --> 00:34:03,968 annual report 374 00:34:03,968 --> 00:34:05,768 hold please 375 00:34:05,768 --> 00:34:08,638 all 376 00:34:08,638 --> 00:34:12,968 eleven point one report muneeza Sheikh integrity commissioner city Brampton 377 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:17,058 re integrity commissioner report twenty twenty two this item has 378 00:34:17,058 --> 00:34:20,908 attachments 379 00:34:20,908 --> 00:34:23,708 eleven point two report from needs a shake integrity commissioner 380 00:34:23,708 --> 00:34:27,388 city Brampton re integrity commission report twenty twenty two oh 381 00:34:27,388 --> 00:34:29,868 two 382 00:34:29,868 --> 00:34:33,138 twelve point one minutes audit committee December seventh twenty twenty 383 00:34:33,138 --> 00:34:34,838 one 384 00:34:34,838 --> 00:34:37,898 twelve point two minutes planning development committee December sixth twenty 385 00:34:37,898 --> 00:34:40,178 twenty one 386 00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:43,498 twelve point three minutes budget committee November twenty ninth thirtieth 387 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,738 December first twenty twenty one 388 00:34:46,738 --> 00:34:50,778 twelve point form summary recommendations planning development committee January seventeenth 389 00:34:50,778 --> 00:34:53,628 twenty twenty two 390 00:34:53,628 --> 00:34:56,818 twelve point five minutes committee of council January nineteenth twenty 391 00:34:56,818 --> 00:35:01,078 twenty two 392 00:35:01,078 --> 00:35:07,048 13.one deferral of realty services audit 393 00:35:07,048 --> 00:35:10,608 thirteen point two planning development committee recommendation PC one nine 394 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,548 oh twenty twenty one application to amend the official plan 395 00:35:13,548 --> 00:35:16,818 zoning bylaw for the drive plan said subdivision Glen Schnarr 396 00:35:16,818 --> 00:35:21,968 and associates TFP maging developments 397 00:35:21,968 --> 00:35:25,198 thirteen point three staff report re color change for Williams 398 00:35:25,198 --> 00:35:29,138 parkway noise wall east of north park drive to west 399 00:35:29,138 --> 00:35:31,708 to here dean road 400 00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:34,988 Mr Mayor there a delegation all that item cool okay 401 00:35:34,988 --> 00:35:41,168 discussion item at the request of council Santos historic overdose 402 00:35:41,168 --> 00:35:43,328 all please 403 00:35:43,328 --> 00:35:47,398 email correspondence Rita Adams deputy clerk acting Director ministrations region 404 00:35:47,398 --> 00:35:51,748 appeal 405 00:35:51,748 --> 00:35:54,768 forty point two correspondence Dr to be Muhammad and CEO 406 00:35:54,768 --> 00:35:58,138 will mostly health system can make you foundation dated December 407 00:35:58,138 --> 00:36:02,198 ninth expression of gratitude for council's decision to contribute significant 408 00:36:02,198 --> 00:36:04,838 funds towards hospital redevelopment 409 00:36:04,838 --> 00:36:08,058 three point of order and Mr Mayor I approvals on 410 00:36:08,058 --> 00:36:10,538 the book warehouse discussion item I don't know if they've 411 00:36:10,538 --> 00:36:13,888 heard me yes we are 412 00:36:13,888 --> 00:36:17,328 and we have to hold fourteen point three fourteen point 413 00:36:17,328 --> 00:36:20,078 four four delegations 414 00:36:20,078 --> 00:36:23,808 we've already dealt with 15.one 415 00:36:23,808 --> 00:36:27,318 ... fifty point two notice of motion at twenty twenty 416 00:36:27,318 --> 00:36:31,388 two anti Islamophobia resolution that's held for delegation 417 00:36:31,388 --> 00:36:34,768 90.one closed session minutes 418 00:36:34,768 --> 00:36:37,418 19.to note the file 419 00:36:37,418 --> 00:36:40,008 social city council meeting December 8 420 00:36:40,008 --> 00:36:42,668 ninety point three closed session minutes break the sports hall 421 00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:45,278 of fame committee 422 00:36:45,278 --> 00:36:50,128 19.4 closed session minutes committee of Council 423 00:36:50,128 --> 00:36:54,158 we've already deferred nineteen point five nineteen point six open 424 00:36:54,348 --> 00:36:56,758 meeting exception under section two three nine two K. of 425 00:36:56,758 --> 00:36:59,178 municipal act 426 00:36:59,178 --> 00:37:01,518 all please 427 00:37:01,518 --> 00:37:04,138 ninety point seven open meeting exception or two three nine 428 00:37:04,168 --> 00:37:07,878 two E. enough minutes blocked 429 00:37:07,878 --> 00:37:10,488 please enter this item to be held for direction required 430 00:37:10,738 --> 00:37:13,348 nineteen point eight open with the exception two three nine 431 00:37:13,348 --> 00:37:16,408 to see in this block proposal pending acquisition of disposition 432 00:37:16,408 --> 00:37:23,038 of lander by the municipality or local board 433 00:37:23,038 --> 00:37:26,498 ninety point nine the meeting session exit open many exemptions 434 00:37:26,498 --> 00:37:29,148 section two three nine two B. K. of miss blocked 435 00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:32,238 personal matters but identifiable individual 436 00:37:32,238 --> 00:37:33,988 all that sound 437 00:37:33,988 --> 00:37:37,928 is also held for discussion is nineteen point ten nineteen 438 00:37:37,928 --> 00:37:41,808 point eleven 439 00:37:41,808 --> 00:37:43,958 the global summarize these items to be included on the 440 00:37:43,958 --> 00:37:47,168 consent motion for approval 441 00:37:47,168 --> 00:37:48,998 through you Mr Mayor to members of council the following 442 00:37:48,998 --> 00:37:52,108 items are held with the balance ... as identified by 443 00:37:52,108 --> 00:37:53,928 the mayor to be included in the consent motion item 444 00:37:53,928 --> 00:37:56,488 ten point three point one the staff report and salary 445 00:37:56,488 --> 00:38:00,278 administration policy semi annual reporting for the first half of 446 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,848 twenty twenty one held the council Bowman 447 00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:06,478 ... item thirteen point three which is held for delegations 448 00:38:06,478 --> 00:38:09,188 on staff report a color change for wings partly noise 449 00:38:09,188 --> 00:38:12,338 wall councillor Fortini is holding that item ... thirteen point 450 00:38:12,338 --> 00:38:15,498 four is unfinished business a referral from last week a 451 00:38:15,498 --> 00:38:18,698 discussion of the request to cancel Santos regarding historical varicose 452 00:38:18,698 --> 00:38:21,818 that's held by cancer Santos 453 00:38:21,818 --> 00:38:26,188 item fourteen point three is held ... and fourteen point 454 00:38:26,188 --> 00:38:30,338 four for delegations regarding the request for the resolution of 455 00:38:30,338 --> 00:38:34,688 endorsement on Mr zoning orders ... item forty fifteen point 456 00:38:34,688 --> 00:38:37,078 two is held for delegations the notice of motion the 457 00:38:37,078 --> 00:38:40,408 twenty twenty two anti Islamophobia resolution 458 00:38:40,408 --> 00:38:44,548 ... item nineteen point six in close session is held 459 00:38:44,768 --> 00:38:47,648 councillor Bowman an open meeting section or section two thirty 460 00:38:47,648 --> 00:38:50,958 I took care of the Municipal Act negotiation matter item 461 00:38:50,958 --> 00:38:54,438 nineteen point seven is held for consideration in closed sessions 462 00:38:54,438 --> 00:38:58,228 directions required for council item nineteen point nine and nineteen 463 00:38:58,228 --> 00:39:01,538 point Turner held as their discussion items and help the 464 00:39:01,538 --> 00:39:03,468 council Madeiros 465 00:39:03,468 --> 00:39:06,148 and nineteen point eleven is held as it is a 466 00:39:06,148 --> 00:39:09,488 discussion item ... referred from the previous council from the 467 00:39:09,518 --> 00:39:15,288 committee of council last week 468 00:39:15,288 --> 00:39:19,478 I have a motion moved by councillor Madeiros and seconded 469 00:39:19,478 --> 00:39:23,778 by councilor Palleschi to approve the consent motion as per 470 00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:26,328 trial process agreed to by council the consent motion be 471 00:39:26,328 --> 00:39:29,048 subject to a recorded vote all in favor of the 472 00:39:29,048 --> 00:39:34,828 consent motion please indicate councillor Dhillon 473 00:39:34,828 --> 00:39:36,138 yes 474 00:39:36,138 --> 00:39:38,448 councillor Singh 475 00:39:38,448 --> 00:39:40,188 yes 476 00:39:40,188 --> 00:39:46,188 councillor Fortini 477 00:39:46,188 --> 00:39:50,008 councillor Fortini 478 00:39:50,008 --> 00:39:52,748 welcome back to you councillor Williams 479 00:39:52,748 --> 00:39:55,928 yes yes yes beer sorry thank you cancer Fortini thank 480 00:39:55,928 --> 00:39:59,058 you counsel Williams councillor Medeiros 481 00:39:59,058 --> 00:40:01,608 yes councillor Bowman 482 00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:05,078 yes councillor Palleschi 483 00:40:05,078 --> 00:40:09,318 yes councillor Willhans 484 00:40:09,318 --> 00:40:15,438 yes can service center 485 00:40:15,438 --> 00:40:19,428 sorry yes councillor Santos yes 486 00:40:19,428 --> 00:40:24,468 mmhm yes that motion carries unanimously eleven zero okay our 487 00:40:24,468 --> 00:40:28,798 next item is six point one announcement regarding intra Maharjan 488 00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:32,938 Brampton resident winner the top twenty five Canadian immigrant award 489 00:40:32,938 --> 00:40:36,968 for twenty twenty one council ScanSource Santos is the council 490 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:42,928 sponsor for this announcement Alaskans Santos to make this announcement 491 00:40:42,928 --> 00:40:45,778 thank you so much through you Mr Mayor I know 492 00:40:45,778 --> 00:40:48,808 that in front of her Russia is also joining us 493 00:40:49,118 --> 00:40:53,338 ... this morning at the top twenty five Canadian immigrant 494 00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:56,728 awards is an annual campaign by Canadian immigrant magazine that 495 00:40:56,728 --> 00:41:00,708 recognizes the outstanding work by immigrants who come to Canada 496 00:41:00,988 --> 00:41:03,768 and I've made a positive difference living in the country 497 00:41:04,108 --> 00:41:05,098 in 498 00:41:05,098 --> 00:41:07,688 I was elected and he is the Nepalese or an 499 00:41:07,688 --> 00:41:12,078 engineer he is a Brampton resident and that engineer named 500 00:41:12,508 --> 00:41:16,658 as winner of the top twenty five Canadian immigrant award 501 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:20,058 and he was also awarded in twenty twenty one waters 502 00:41:20,058 --> 00:41:23,758 next award for top government leader in Canada's water industry 503 00:41:24,108 --> 00:41:29,028 ... and also he's been created at creating innovation solutions 504 00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:32,388 for the Canadian water and wastewater industry since moving to 505 00:41:32,388 --> 00:41:36,068 Canada more than ten years ago ... in fact is 506 00:41:36,098 --> 00:41:39,148 a regular contributor and volunteer here at the city of 507 00:41:39,148 --> 00:41:43,158 Brampton he volunteers with the CCTV group as well as 508 00:41:43,158 --> 00:41:45,958 bank Brampton and the peel district school board and he 509 00:41:45,958 --> 00:41:48,318 is joining us this morning and ... we are very 510 00:41:48,318 --> 00:41:51,618 proud of you many of us are immigrants to this 511 00:41:51,618 --> 00:41:55,378 country and I think it's fantastic that Brampton residents like 512 00:41:55,378 --> 00:41:59,428 yourself who contribute so much to our local ... community 513 00:41:59,428 --> 00:42:03,448 but also throughout the entire country are being recognized for 514 00:42:03,448 --> 00:42:07,648 your contribution here in Brampton and in Canada so if 515 00:42:07,648 --> 00:42:10,368 it's okay in ... I would welcome you to just 516 00:42:10,368 --> 00:42:12,828 say a few words about this announcement and what that 517 00:42:12,828 --> 00:42:15,998 means in terms of being a proud residents here in 518 00:42:15,998 --> 00:42:17,728 the city of Brampton 519 00:42:17,728 --> 00:42:22,938 thank you thank you councillor Santos for this month's 520 00:42:22,938 --> 00:42:29,968 and through you to Mr Mayor I do that and 521 00:42:29,968 --> 00:42:31,278 I've 522 00:42:31,278 --> 00:42:34,528 it's three hundred and our all new immigrants and you 523 00:42:34,528 --> 00:42:37,598 Canadians to not give up their dreams and continue giving 524 00:42:37,648 --> 00:42:40,198 back to the city and our society as we all 525 00:42:40,198 --> 00:42:43,468 know Brampton is a city of immigrants and we have 526 00:42:43,468 --> 00:42:46,858 been you know highlighted many times in past years for 527 00:42:46,858 --> 00:42:49,738 a good things done by our citizens and Brampton ends 528 00:42:50,018 --> 00:42:53,558 so I'm privileged and honored to be on this list 529 00:42:53,588 --> 00:42:57,548 representing Brampton with that twenty four hi the steamed and 530 00:42:57,578 --> 00:43:01,468 successful professionals from coast to coast to coast I look 531 00:43:01,468 --> 00:43:05,168 forward to continue getting involved in many great initiatives within 532 00:43:05,168 --> 00:43:08,518 the city and the reason appeal in areas of energy 533 00:43:08,518 --> 00:43:12,498 environment climate change and active transportation within the city I'm 534 00:43:12,498 --> 00:43:16,048 very proud of all the political leadership within the existing 535 00:43:16,248 --> 00:43:20,848 city council with all their progressive agenda out and it's 536 00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:23,918 very for a forward looking with all the development and 537 00:43:23,918 --> 00:43:27,998 growth our cities are facing so looking for like to 538 00:43:27,998 --> 00:43:31,148 give back to the society in any capacity I can 539 00:43:31,258 --> 00:43:35,348 again thank you councillor Santos for having me here and 540 00:43:35,348 --> 00:43:39,158 all the councillors thank you 541 00:43:39,158 --> 00:43:43,328 thank you so much introduction Mr Mayor 542 00:43:43,328 --> 00:43:47,878 thank you councillor Santos 543 00:43:47,878 --> 00:43:51,638 our next is proclamations ... we have the following proclamations 544 00:43:51,638 --> 00:43:54,788 today we've got ... five of them so let me 545 00:43:54,788 --> 00:43:58,648 get started ... Palleschi disease awareness day generate twenty six 546 00:43:58,648 --> 00:44:02,218 months costly disease where to stay costly disease Katie is 547 00:44:02,218 --> 00:44:04,648 the leading cause of heart disease in children under five 548 00:44:04,938 --> 00:44:07,798 early diagnosis as a matter of life or death and 549 00:44:07,798 --> 00:44:11,508 lifelong coronary distress the window for diagnosis is a mere 550 00:44:11,508 --> 00:44:14,788 ten days when I'm diagnosed and untreated this heart wrenching 551 00:44:14,788 --> 00:44:18,888 disease leads to long term complications corner artery aneurysms may 552 00:44:19,108 --> 00:44:22,348 ultimately result in heart attacks congestive heart failure or sudden 553 00:44:22,348 --> 00:44:23,618 death 554 00:44:23,618 --> 00:44:25,988 Hawksley five hundred fifty Canadian children under the age of 555 00:44:25,988 --> 00:44:29,058 five will be affected by the Klasky disease annually and 556 00:44:29,058 --> 00:44:31,728 approximately twenty five percent of the children were developed permitted 557 00:44:31,728 --> 00:44:35,828 her damage costs could disease Canada's only Canadian national charity 558 00:44:36,128 --> 00:44:39,688 working to prevent comes of course the disease as strives 559 00:44:39,978 --> 00:44:42,838 to be on the forefront of quantity disease issues by 560 00:44:42,838 --> 00:44:46,208 collaborating with families affected by the disease a medical professional's 561 00:44:46,778 --> 00:44:50,138 Palleschi disease awareness day will be recognized through various activities 562 00:44:50,458 --> 00:44:53,488 which are aimed at increasing awareness of Kolasky disease among 563 00:44:53,518 --> 00:44:56,728 all residents of Brampton as a growing urban centre with 564 00:44:56,728 --> 00:45:01,048 many young families the increased awareness could help to avoid 565 00:45:01,048 --> 00:45:03,968 late and miss Katie diagnosis even a child from permitted 566 00:45:03,968 --> 00:45:06,228 her damage or even death 567 00:45:06,228 --> 00:45:09,448 normally when role here in person 568 00:45:09,448 --> 00:45:13,668 we have representatives from each of these organizations that received 569 00:45:13,668 --> 00:45:18,498 the proclamation and one council myself ... say a few 570 00:45:18,498 --> 00:45:21,708 words there there is a local Brampton family that worked 571 00:45:21,708 --> 00:45:24,888 on having this proclamation recognized I do look forward to 572 00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:27,988 the time when we can hear their story about what 573 00:45:27,988 --> 00:45:30,478 this meant for their kids and why this awareness day 574 00:45:30,478 --> 00:45:33,568 is so important 575 00:45:33,568 --> 00:45:36,188 our next on awareness day is bell let's talk day 576 00:45:36,388 --> 00:45:39,548 January twenty six twenty twenty two marks bell let's talk 577 00:45:39,548 --> 00:45:41,718 day in the city of Brampton is recognizing this day 578 00:45:41,998 --> 00:45:46,058 by joining in the drive joining to drive meaningful progress 579 00:45:46,058 --> 00:45:49,548 through ongoing dialogue awareness of mental health and well being 580 00:45:49,998 --> 00:45:52,998 COVID nineteen has affected every aspect of our lives especially 581 00:45:52,998 --> 00:45:57,438 our mental health many experience loss financial distress isolation mental 582 00:45:57,438 --> 00:46:00,948 emotional hardship to help move mental health board in Canada 583 00:46:01,308 --> 00:46:05,078 and a Brampton these conversations promote awareness and action with 584 00:46:05,078 --> 00:46:09,048 a strategy around fighting the stigma improving access to care 585 00:46:09,048 --> 00:46:13,138 supporting research and workplace mental health we recognize the importance 586 00:46:13,138 --> 00:46:16,108 of prioritizing or mental health and well being now more 587 00:46:16,108 --> 00:46:18,748 than ever it is important that we continue to take 588 00:46:18,748 --> 00:46:21,938 action today and every day the city of Brampton residents 589 00:46:21,938 --> 00:46:25,508 to join the next for the mental health resources and 590 00:46:25,508 --> 00:46:29,098 supports available ... I know councillor Santos has been involved 591 00:46:29,098 --> 00:46:31,898 in this awareness this year thank you councillor Santos for 592 00:46:31,898 --> 00:46:34,758 your efforts 593 00:46:34,758 --> 00:46:36,968 crime stoppers month 594 00:46:36,968 --> 00:46:39,488 January the official month of crime stoppers the peel crime 595 00:46:39,488 --> 00:46:42,638 stoppers program is a registered charity that provides enormous can 596 00:46:42,638 --> 00:46:46,168 confidential tip line for the public report suspicious or illegal 597 00:46:46,168 --> 00:46:49,298 activities and efforts to prevent or solve crimes in their 598 00:46:49,298 --> 00:46:53,458 community peel crime stoppers will continue to engage the public 599 00:46:53,458 --> 00:46:56,818 through announcements on various media channels in collaboration with stakeholders 600 00:46:56,818 --> 00:47:00,128 in the community tell Crimestoppers aims to raise awareness about 601 00:47:00,128 --> 00:47:03,758 the program across Brampton community among concerns that is a 602 00:47:03,758 --> 00:47:06,418 wish to help keep their community safe for and I 603 00:47:06,418 --> 00:47:09,618 would note ... Iran has sand and a group of 604 00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:12,458 volunteers for crime stoppers was at city hall this week 605 00:47:12,638 --> 00:47:14,538 for the lady in the clock tower and this is 606 00:47:14,538 --> 00:47:17,708 a group that myself and council Madeiros have worked with 607 00:47:17,958 --> 00:47:21,178 in our capacity of doing work on the peel police 608 00:47:21,178 --> 00:47:24,978 board a great organization crime stoppers 609 00:47:24,978 --> 00:47:27,588 next up is black history month black history month is 610 00:47:27,788 --> 00:47:31,028 about honoring the vast contributions the black people of meeting 611 00:47:31,028 --> 00:47:34,138 continue to make in all sectors of society it's about 612 00:47:34,168 --> 00:47:38,198 celebrating resilience innovation determination to work towards a more inclusive 613 00:47:38,198 --> 00:47:42,078 and diverse Canada Canada in which everyone has the opportunity 614 00:47:42,338 --> 00:47:44,508 ... to 615 00:47:44,508 --> 00:47:46,298 flourish 616 00:47:46,298 --> 00:47:49,148 the twenty twenty two theme for black history month focuses 617 00:47:49,148 --> 00:47:52,288 on the importance of block health and wellness it acknowledges 618 00:47:52,288 --> 00:47:56,478 the legacy of black scholars in medical practitioners in western 619 00:47:56,508 --> 00:48:01,198 medicine and other ways of knowing throughout the African diaspora 620 00:48:01,658 --> 00:48:05,078 since the arrival of Matthew de Costa a navigator and 621 00:48:05,078 --> 00:48:08,788 interpreter whose presence in Canada dates back to the sixteen 622 00:48:08,788 --> 00:48:10,788 hundreds many Canadians were not aware of the fact that 623 00:48:10,788 --> 00:48:14,348 block individuals or once a slave in the territory that 624 00:48:14,348 --> 00:48:17,358 is now Canada or how old those far as Leibman 625 00:48:17,358 --> 00:48:20,918 helped to lay the foundation for the diversity inclusive society 626 00:48:20,918 --> 00:48:24,758 that Canada's today the highlighted knows the numerous contributions of 627 00:48:24,758 --> 00:48:27,648 the black community have given too great the landscape of 628 00:48:27,648 --> 00:48:31,458 Canadian society in nineteen seventy six former city council declared 629 00:48:31,458 --> 00:48:35,398 February is black history month national recognition occurred on December 630 00:48:35,398 --> 00:48:39,688 fourteenth nineteen ninety five which when the house of Commons 631 00:48:39,688 --> 00:48:43,968 unanimously agreed to a motion presented by the honorable Jean 632 00:48:43,968 --> 00:48:47,608 Augustine to recognize February as black history month in the 633 00:48:47,608 --> 00:48:50,518 city of Brampton the monthlong celebration encourages us to honor 634 00:48:50,518 --> 00:48:53,228 the significant role the black community both past and present 635 00:48:53,228 --> 00:48:56,528 a played in shaping the multicultural of that of Brampton 636 00:48:56,588 --> 00:48:58,768 and its values and I know we're going to have 637 00:48:58,768 --> 00:49:01,318 a great program in February and thank you to council 638 00:49:01,318 --> 00:49:05,688 Williams who's always volunteer time to make this program a 639 00:49:05,688 --> 00:49:07,888 success 640 00:49:07,888 --> 00:49:11,008 the national day of remembrance of the Quebec City mosque 641 00:49:11,008 --> 00:49:15,928 attack and action against Islamophobia this January twenty ninth candidate 642 00:49:15,928 --> 00:49:20,158 as a countrywoman the federally designated national day of remembrance 643 00:49:20,238 --> 00:49:23,878 of the Quebec City mosque attack Act and action against 644 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:25,508 Islamophobia 645 00:49:25,508 --> 00:49:29,108 provinces cities and community organizations across the country have been 646 00:49:29,108 --> 00:49:32,388 marking this day since two thousand seventeen when the Islamic 647 00:49:32,428 --> 00:49:34,968 cultural centre of Quebec City was subject to a tragic 648 00:49:34,968 --> 00:49:38,638 hateful and Islamophobic crime generate twenty ninth as the date 649 00:49:39,138 --> 00:49:41,238 where the Muslims in Quebec and the rest of Quebec 650 00:49:41,238 --> 00:49:44,718 will forever more but generate twenty ninth also represents a 651 00:49:44,718 --> 00:49:47,498 day of hope a date or we can come together 652 00:49:47,498 --> 00:49:50,918 for a better future for Canadians of all backgrounds for 653 00:49:50,918 --> 00:49:54,588 a candidate that is free from Islamophobia hate City Council 654 00:49:54,588 --> 00:49:58,148 condemns Islamophobia as it does all other forms of racism 655 00:49:58,148 --> 00:50:02,618 hate Islamophobia and bigotry and reaffirms hatred has no place 656 00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:05,498 in the city of Brampton the city of Brampton clock 657 00:50:05,498 --> 00:50:07,788 tower will be lit green and fight city hall 658 00:50:07,788 --> 00:50:10,478 at half mast to honor the memory of those who 659 00:50:10,478 --> 00:50:13,918 passed in the Quebec City mosque attack and show solidarity 660 00:50:14,338 --> 00:50:17,358 the hateful and despicable acts of violence have no place 661 00:50:17,788 --> 00:50:21,918 in our communities today we as residents of Brampton resolved 662 00:50:21,918 --> 00:50:24,248 to build the foundation for change in promoting a more 663 00:50:24,248 --> 00:50:27,628 inclusive and equitable country for all 664 00:50:27,628 --> 00:50:30,348 and today in the council chamber I am wearing the 665 00:50:30,348 --> 00:50:33,958 green square as remembrance of January twenty ninth and I 666 00:50:33,958 --> 00:50:38,108 would note the staff members who are present ... in 667 00:50:38,108 --> 00:50:42,018 the room are all also wearing the green square ... 668 00:50:42,058 --> 00:50:46,018 and if members of council would like a copy of 669 00:50:46,018 --> 00:50:48,918 the green square we have some in my office ... 670 00:50:48,918 --> 00:50:50,788 if you want to 671 00:50:50,788 --> 00:50:55,678 post on social media a year remembrance of this horrendous 672 00:50:55,888 --> 00:51:02,098 act of hate where innocent lives where ... taken ... 673 00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:04,638 from us than just on a on a more personal 674 00:51:04,638 --> 00:51:10,008 note in twenty nineteen we attended FCM in Quebec City 675 00:51:10,518 --> 00:51:14,928 and it was during the month of Ramadan and members 676 00:51:14,928 --> 00:51:18,648 of our council who attended FCM all went to visit 677 00:51:18,758 --> 00:51:23,318 that masters and as an act of solidarity ... ... 678 00:51:23,318 --> 00:51:27,078 we fasted ... and broke fast with the leadership of 679 00:51:27,078 --> 00:51:29,778 that conduct most that was 680 00:51:29,778 --> 00:51:31,908 attacked 681 00:51:31,908 --> 00:51:34,358 and we broke our fast together we talked about that 682 00:51:34,358 --> 00:51:38,918 incident and as we toured the the masjid and they 683 00:51:38,918 --> 00:51:42,958 were still reminisce of bold 684 00:51:42,958 --> 00:51:48,148 marks in damage to ... that masjid and the reason 685 00:51:48,148 --> 00:51:51,988 for the green square campaign is the floor at that 686 00:51:51,988 --> 00:51:55,528 manages the carpet is green 687 00:51:55,528 --> 00:52:01,258 even though it was soaked in blood that day 688 00:52:01,258 --> 00:52:03,408 the fact is something that can happen our country's just 689 00:52:03,408 --> 00:52:07,698 horrified that people could be killed based on their faith 690 00:52:07,798 --> 00:52:10,018 is ... 691 00:52:10,018 --> 00:52:14,508 an attack on our fundamental values of religious freedom and 692 00:52:14,868 --> 00:52:18,368 Brampton will join cities across the country as we remember 693 00:52:18,788 --> 00:52:21,808 ... and do everything we can recommit to do everything 694 00:52:21,808 --> 00:52:25,038 we can to create an environment where hate and violence 695 00:52:25,068 --> 00:52:29,818 like this is not possible in our country 696 00:52:29,818 --> 00:52:35,508 that completes or proclamations this takes is the public delegations 697 00:52:35,508 --> 00:52:39,168 the proposed amendment to the more by licensing bylaw 698 00:52:39,168 --> 00:52:41,138 I want the clerk if there's anyone who has requested 699 00:52:41,138 --> 00:52:43,758 to delegate to council on the proposed by law amendment 700 00:52:44,298 --> 00:52:46,478 through you Mr Mayor there are no delegations bus for 701 00:52:46,478 --> 00:52:48,278 this item okay so council we can deal with it 702 00:52:48,308 --> 00:52:50,938 implementing this bylaw in agenda order when we consider the 703 00:52:50,938 --> 00:52:54,048 bylaw section later in 704 00:52:54,048 --> 00:52:57,578 this takes us to seven point to a delegation from 705 00:52:57,668 --> 00:52:59,828 rose one Mohammed 706 00:52:59,828 --> 00:53:01,628 707 00:53:01,628 --> 00:53:04,778 the National Council of Canadian Muslims and possibly must offer 708 00:53:04,778 --> 00:53:08,798 Farouk item fifteen point two notice of motion from councillor 709 00:53:08,798 --> 00:53:14,268 Santos twenty twenty two into Islamophobia resolution we also before 710 00:53:14,268 --> 00:53:17,108 us item fifteen point to which we can bring forward 711 00:53:17,108 --> 00:53:20,268 and deal with after the delegation will now proceed to 712 00:53:20,268 --> 00:53:26,368 the delegation welcome is welcome result Riz one Muhammad from 713 00:53:26,798 --> 00:53:29,968 in CCM 714 00:53:29,968 --> 00:53:32,628 good morning everyone and greetings of peace my name is 715 00:53:32,628 --> 00:53:34,718 rose one hundred and I'm with the National Council of 716 00:53:34,718 --> 00:53:37,728 Canadian most of the NCC am I doing today to 717 00:53:37,728 --> 00:53:40,028 speak in favor of the city of Brampton endorsing the 718 00:53:40,028 --> 00:53:42,858 motion fifteen point two two addresses on the phobia at 719 00:53:42,858 --> 00:53:45,928 the board of the federation of Canadian municipalities the FCM 720 00:53:46,478 --> 00:53:49,698 we thank regional council Rowena Santos from moving this motion 721 00:53:49,728 --> 00:53:53,418 and mayor Patrick Brown for seconding the motion the sad 722 00:53:53,418 --> 00:53:56,148 truth is everyone that after the Quebec City mosque attack 723 00:53:56,148 --> 00:53:59,688 five years ago on January twenty ninth twenty seventeen violent 724 00:53:59,688 --> 00:54:03,438 attacks on Muslims did not stop in fact more Muslims 725 00:54:03,438 --> 00:54:06,108 have been killed in targeted hate attacks in Canada and 726 00:54:06,108 --> 00:54:08,868 any other G. seven country in the past five to 727 00:54:08,868 --> 00:54:12,048 six years because of Islamophobia 728 00:54:12,048 --> 00:54:13,928 this fact is in the air outside of London was 729 00:54:13,928 --> 00:54:16,148 a monster just a few months ago on June eighth 730 00:54:16,248 --> 00:54:20,398 twenty twenty one when thousands of Londoners and Canadians Nelson 731 00:54:20,398 --> 00:54:23,998 Mandelson gathered in the aftermath of the terror attack that 732 00:54:23,998 --> 00:54:26,648 took the lives of four members of the canvassing community 733 00:54:26,648 --> 00:54:31,158 in a shocking act of Islamophobic violence thousands of people 734 00:54:31,158 --> 00:54:34,498 had gathered that day came together to express their solidarity 735 00:54:35,178 --> 00:54:40,308 rate understated gather to stand together as representatives of the 736 00:54:40,308 --> 00:54:42,818 London most a mosque called for more than words from 737 00:54:42,818 --> 00:54:45,278 the politicians in attendance 738 00:54:45,278 --> 00:54:49,588 politicians from across Canada then made statements condemning Islamophobia and 739 00:54:49,588 --> 00:54:53,318 calling to action to date we recognize that the City 740 00:54:53,318 --> 00:54:55,818 of Brampton led by Mayor Patrick Brown and all of 741 00:54:55,818 --> 00:55:00,288 council here at taken historic strides forward in addressing Islamophobia 742 00:55:00,698 --> 00:55:03,328 from being the first major city in Canada to endorse 743 00:55:03,328 --> 00:55:06,128 all of the NCC Ms municipal recommendations to address the 744 00:55:06,128 --> 00:55:08,828 formal phobia that came out of the national summit in 745 00:55:08,828 --> 00:55:12,188 response to the London attack you're calling on mayors of 746 00:55:12,188 --> 00:55:15,518 big cities and to stand up for human rights and 747 00:55:15,518 --> 00:55:19,108 religious freedom by supporting the legal challenge to build twenty 748 00:55:19,108 --> 00:55:20,668 one in Quebec 749 00:55:20,668 --> 00:55:23,758 two appointing we need to share this Canada's First most 750 00:55:23,758 --> 00:55:27,988 some woman as its integrity commissioner to today's proclamations regarding 751 00:55:28,138 --> 00:55:31,098 February is black history month and January twenty ninth is 752 00:55:31,098 --> 00:55:34,068 the national day of remembrance of the Quebec City mosque 753 00:55:34,068 --> 00:55:37,748 attack and action against Islamophobia in light of this leadership 754 00:55:37,748 --> 00:55:40,458 mayor and council and in light of regional council arena 755 00:55:40,458 --> 00:55:42,998 Santos is a leadership role on the FCM new equity 756 00:55:42,998 --> 00:55:46,498 anti racism task force established in twenty twenty one we 757 00:55:46,498 --> 00:55:49,148 feel that at the city of Brampton is the ideal 758 00:55:49,148 --> 00:55:52,558 member of the federation of Canadian municipalities to bring forward 759 00:55:52,558 --> 00:55:56,408 a resolution to address Islamophobia if this resolution is carried 760 00:55:56,408 --> 00:56:00,048 by the FCM it will encourage municipal governments across Canada 761 00:56:00,078 --> 00:56:04,078 to follow Brampton's example it takes specific action to address 762 00:56:04,078 --> 00:56:10,608 Islamophobia thank you for your consideration 763 00:56:10,608 --> 00:56:13,448 after the delegation if anyone else has questions are welcome 764 00:56:13,448 --> 00:56:18,538 to add their name to the chat box councillor Santos 765 00:56:18,538 --> 00:56:20,848 thank you so much thank you ... is one for 766 00:56:20,848 --> 00:56:24,348 coming to to delegate and for your work in advocating 767 00:56:24,348 --> 00:56:28,908 for ... the motion today and that I will ask 768 00:56:28,908 --> 00:56:32,538 that meeting also bring forward for consideration at this time 769 00:56:32,908 --> 00:56:36,828 ... you know when not in twenty nineteen when we 770 00:56:36,828 --> 00:56:40,208 were at FCM and in things are really timely right 771 00:56:40,208 --> 00:56:43,858 now because it is the anniversary of that tragic incident 772 00:56:44,138 --> 00:56:48,538 ... councillor resenting myself the mayor councillor Gillian ... we 773 00:56:48,538 --> 00:56:54,028 went to visit the combustion at in income back in 774 00:56:54,108 --> 00:56:57,648 the impact on me at that time especially children FCM 775 00:56:57,648 --> 00:57:03,348 conference ... was quite was quite shocking ... the the 776 00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:05,528 the bullets in the wall at the masjid were still 777 00:57:05,528 --> 00:57:08,708 there ... and we saw it and we saw how 778 00:57:08,968 --> 00:57:13,288 deeply impacted the community what and so that the timing 779 00:57:13,618 --> 00:57:17,788 on bringing this motion before work and having Brampton out 780 00:57:17,788 --> 00:57:20,338 bring it forward I'm I'm really honored to do so 781 00:57:20,338 --> 00:57:23,198 as a board member FCM and also as co chair 782 00:57:23,548 --> 00:57:27,188 of the anti racism an equity committee I will share 783 00:57:27,188 --> 00:57:30,718 that I've spoken to a number of members across the 784 00:57:30,718 --> 00:57:34,298 country FCM and there is a lot of support for 785 00:57:34,298 --> 00:57:38,448 this certainly the anti racism and equity committee ... is 786 00:57:38,448 --> 00:57:41,878 also in support of this and so I encourage ... 787 00:57:42,008 --> 00:57:45,328 ... members of council to to show their support as 788 00:57:45,328 --> 00:57:49,508 we advocate on behalf of the country ... on anti 789 00:57:49,508 --> 00:57:52,778 Islamophobia so thank you very much for this one and 790 00:57:52,778 --> 00:57:54,868 ... when the time comes I will ask for a 791 00:57:54,868 --> 00:57:58,238 recorded vote 792 00:57:58,238 --> 00:58:01,358 okay I don't see any other speakers to this ... 793 00:58:01,388 --> 00:58:05,898 but I would just add my own comment that Brampton 794 00:58:05,898 --> 00:58:10,168 is a mosaic of other faiths I in an attack 795 00:58:10,168 --> 00:58:12,758 on any one faith is an attack on all of 796 00:58:12,758 --> 00:58:16,778 us we stand together in our Brampton family you know 797 00:58:16,778 --> 00:58:18,638 many people have 798 00:58:18,638 --> 00:58:21,718 to come to Canada because they've left lands where they're 799 00:58:21,718 --> 00:58:24,628 persecuted based on their faith 800 00:58:24,628 --> 00:58:26,978 part of 801 00:58:26,978 --> 00:58:29,508 part of the design of Canada the dream of Canada 802 00:58:29,588 --> 00:58:33,208 is that inclusive country that is an example for others 803 00:58:33,208 --> 00:58:36,258 that beacon of freedom is that we do have religious 804 00:58:36,258 --> 00:58:37,558 freedom 805 00:58:37,558 --> 00:58:40,058 and we can't ignore the fact that we have seen 806 00:58:40,058 --> 00:58:43,138 acts of violence and hate against Muslim Canadians that are 807 00:58:43,428 --> 00:58:47,378 despicable abhorrent and against our core values as a country 808 00:58:47,378 --> 00:58:51,458 that protects people's ability to proper practice their faith 809 00:58:51,458 --> 00:58:53,778 as I've said many times the 810 00:58:53,778 --> 00:58:55,668 part of duty of candour doesn't matter who you love 811 00:58:55,668 --> 00:58:57,388 where you're born the color of your skin what god 812 00:58:57,388 --> 00:59:00,588 you worship that everyone has equal opportunities in this country 813 00:59:00,588 --> 00:59:04,388 with drive and determination 814 00:59:04,388 --> 00:59:06,628 and what we've seen in London 815 00:59:06,628 --> 00:59:09,898 in Quebec City and is re and more recently in 816 00:59:09,898 --> 00:59:12,368 Edmonton 817 00:59:12,368 --> 00:59:15,978 are a step backwards in terms of our efforts to 818 00:59:15,978 --> 00:59:19,838 build that inclusive and nation and so if FCM can 819 00:59:19,838 --> 00:59:22,168 be part of the conversation 820 00:59:22,168 --> 00:59:24,318 trying to protect 821 00:59:24,318 --> 00:59:29,058 the right to worship in peace free from intimidation and 822 00:59:29,058 --> 00:59:32,838 violence then we should use every tool we can't 823 00:59:32,838 --> 00:59:36,278 because Brampton is a country where multi Brampton is a 824 00:59:36,308 --> 00:59:39,978 city for multi culturalism works Brampton is a city that 825 00:59:39,978 --> 00:59:42,908 is a mosaic of faith we're proud of our neighbors 826 00:59:42,908 --> 00:59:45,938 of divergent backgrounds and so I think it's perfectly appropriate 827 00:59:45,938 --> 00:59:48,608 for us to continue to stand up for religious freedom 828 00:59:48,608 --> 00:59:52,358 and I commend councillor Santos for leading the charge on 829 00:59:52,358 --> 00:59:55,468 this at FCM my I imagine you'll find a lot 830 00:59:55,468 --> 00:59:58,958 of support at the FCM board ... for this and 831 00:59:58,988 --> 01:00:01,258 may I suggest councillor Santos that we have all of 832 01:00:01,258 --> 01:00:04,668 council second your motion 833 01:00:04,668 --> 01:00:07,928 thank you Mayor Brown I've read that definitely support that 834 01:00:07,958 --> 01:00:10,308 and I would also ask that we make sure that 835 01:00:10,308 --> 01:00:14,398 this was forwarded to you the FCM ... as as 836 01:00:14,398 --> 01:00:23,518 soon as if it passes thank you 837 01:00:23,518 --> 01:00:25,138 okay 838 01:00:25,138 --> 01:00:27,288 a recorded vote 839 01:00:27,288 --> 01:00:29,208 two three somewhere perhaps we should just take a vote 840 01:00:29,208 --> 01:00:31,168 first on to receive the delegation and then we can 841 01:00:31,168 --> 01:00:33,458 proceed with the notice moto I don't mean recordable Chrissy 842 01:00:33,458 --> 01:00:38,258 the delegation ... anyone opposed to receiving the delegation 843 01:00:38,258 --> 01:00:41,648 hearing none they're delegations received now recorded vote on the 844 01:00:41,648 --> 01:00:42,898 motion 845 01:00:42,898 --> 01:00:45,638 recorded votes can request a notice of motion fifteen point 846 01:00:45,638 --> 01:00:48,818 two published with the agenda ... ... members in favor 847 01:00:48,818 --> 01:00:54,978 please indicate councillor Dillon 848 01:00:54,978 --> 01:00:58,078 yes yes councillor Singh 849 01:00:58,078 --> 01:01:01,408 yes councillor Fortini 850 01:01:01,408 --> 01:01:04,378 yes councillor Williams 851 01:01:04,378 --> 01:01:07,578 yes councillor Medeiros 852 01:01:07,578 --> 01:01:09,888 yes councillor Bowman 853 01:01:09,888 --> 01:01:14,048 yeah councillor Palleschi 854 01:01:14,048 --> 01:01:16,718 councillor Willhans 855 01:01:16,718 --> 01:01:24,118 yes councillor Passante yes councillor Santos yes Mayor Brown yes 856 01:01:24,588 --> 01:01:31,048 the motion carries unanimously eleven to zero 857 01:01:31,048 --> 01:01:32,758 okay 858 01:01:32,758 --> 01:01:34,028 thank you 859 01:01:34,028 --> 01:01:38,888 was one 860 01:01:38,888 --> 01:01:41,848 this takes us to 861 01:01:41,848 --> 01:01:44,098 73 is that correct 862 01:01:44,098 --> 01:01:49,398 Williams parkway noise wall public art we have 863 01:01:49,398 --> 01:01:51,588 this item was referred from last week's committee of Council 864 01:01:51,588 --> 01:01:54,278 as we had technical issues plain to video delegation submitted 865 01:01:54,608 --> 01:01:57,198 today we have two video delegations plus the third delegation 866 01:01:57,198 --> 01:01:59,968 from John could result I'll ask the court to play 867 01:01:59,968 --> 01:02:03,318 the video delegations first 868 01:02:03,318 --> 01:02:05,138 through you Mr Mayor so yes we have ... to 869 01:02:05,138 --> 01:02:08,538 video delegations and then a delegation from John countries all 870 01:02:08,538 --> 01:02:16,778 of ... so we're gonna play the first video delegation 871 01:02:16,778 --> 01:02:19,818 so how many rooms parkway and the infamous noise wall 872 01:02:19,818 --> 01:02:21,268 was behind 873 01:02:21,268 --> 01:02:25,698 it's not pretty and the people who travel on this 874 01:02:25,698 --> 01:02:29,198 major arterial roads like myself have to look at this 875 01:02:29,358 --> 01:02:31,838 store every single day 876 01:02:31,838 --> 01:02:34,698 I think there's an opportunity here though there's an opportunity 877 01:02:34,878 --> 01:02:39,478 to turn this into something beautiful 878 01:02:39,478 --> 01:02:42,688 the Brampton arts and culture scene for a while 879 01:02:42,688 --> 01:02:47,748 they started an organization dedicated to impose our city 880 01:02:47,748 --> 01:02:52,108 make enough to pay the Brampton 24 is incessant 881 01:02:52,108 --> 01:02:55,448 by the way was example of the community coming together 882 01:02:56,098 --> 01:02:58,468 to serve their aspirations 883 01:02:58,468 --> 01:03:03,688 vibrant music city a city that Brampton deserves to be 884 01:03:03,688 --> 01:03:07,668 his aspirations there is public arts 885 01:03:07,668 --> 01:03:09,258 international plan 886 01:03:09,258 --> 01:03:13,338 the face in our city's history details 887 01:03:13,338 --> 01:03:15,488 municipal funding 888 01:03:15,488 --> 01:03:20,648 it's a new position I can't understand that 889 01:03:20,648 --> 01:03:22,878 of creative talents 890 01:03:22,878 --> 01:03:26,358 good understands that public or the Senate to investigate just 891 01:03:26,358 --> 01:03:29,938 as there is no mention for its inclusion of city 892 01:03:29,938 --> 01:03:33,618 example of the value for public art witnesses in Brampton 893 01:03:33,618 --> 01:03:39,478 spattered apartment station which has a beautiful 894 01:03:39,478 --> 01:03:43,328 it provides relief to the building and character to the 895 01:03:43,328 --> 01:03:44,688 neighborhood 896 01:03:44,688 --> 01:03:48,998 and same thing that I can something similar can happen 897 01:03:48,998 --> 01:03:50,688 to this man 898 01:03:50,688 --> 01:03:51,928 now 899 01:03:51,928 --> 01:03:53,528 is the benefit of 900 01:03:53,528 --> 01:03:57,198 there is talk about this is fantastic 901 01:03:57,198 --> 01:04:02,178 this public accessible to anyone and everyone regardless of race 902 01:04:02,418 --> 01:04:06,678 gender socioeconomic status ability 903 01:04:06,678 --> 01:04:09,628 it gives us an opportunity 904 01:04:09,628 --> 01:04:13,878 to celebrate ourselves the senator said history is one of 905 01:04:13,878 --> 01:04:17,888 the youngest and most diverse cities in the country this 906 01:04:17,888 --> 01:04:22,188 has a deep history which bedrooms passing by this is 907 01:04:22,188 --> 01:04:26,198 an opportunity to share that story 908 01:04:26,198 --> 01:04:30,538 good projects SO give us an opportunity for civic engagements 909 01:04:30,538 --> 01:04:32,678 this is going to get there so the opinions and 910 01:04:32,678 --> 01:04:35,398 thoughts about what they want in a piece of art 911 01:04:35,518 --> 01:04:39,448 that's supposed to represent them 912 01:04:39,448 --> 01:04:42,048 it is a city that they matter 913 01:04:42,048 --> 01:04:44,318 that we care about them 914 01:04:44,318 --> 01:04:47,508 opportunities to stay at home and to stay in the 915 01:04:47,508 --> 01:04:49,838 city instead of having to leave the city to pursue 916 01:04:49,838 --> 01:04:54,258 their artistic career aspirations S. where every communities have benefited 917 01:04:54,258 --> 01:04:58,698 from Branson Otis more than Brampton 918 01:04:58,698 --> 01:05:03,778 I went renting compared to other cities has been wonderful 919 01:05:04,208 --> 01:05:06,788 arts is behind 920 01:05:06,788 --> 01:05:11,248 as it currently stands Brampton minimally provides funding the public 921 01:05:11,548 --> 01:05:13,798 on an ad hoc basis 922 01:05:13,798 --> 01:05:17,278 the culture master plan details where is that transaction sustainable 923 01:05:17,278 --> 01:05:19,228 finance public art 924 01:05:19,228 --> 01:05:22,748 after activating section thirty seven which means that as the 925 01:05:22,748 --> 01:05:25,738 city grows so this is the 926 01:05:25,738 --> 01:05:27,678 to stick with 927 01:05:27,678 --> 01:05:29,808 we have to be on the same page about this 928 01:05:30,298 --> 01:05:32,568 because even on the same page about something like this 929 01:05:33,218 --> 01:05:35,388 on the same page for the future of our city 930 01:05:35,588 --> 01:05:39,998 with respect to the aspirations in the Brampton twenty 931 01:05:39,998 --> 01:05:41,958 in the kitchen master plan 932 01:05:41,958 --> 01:05:45,568 not on the same page about this that means that 933 01:05:45,888 --> 01:05:50,998 those efforts in those two documents I'm going to waste 934 01:05:50,998 --> 01:05:53,798 I'm excited about the possibility the public and the small 935 01:05:54,248 --> 01:05:57,878 community is excited about public up in this world disincentives 936 01:05:58,078 --> 01:06:00,758 seven a public open as well and I would city 937 01:06:00,758 --> 01:06:09,428 council SO excited about public art on this 938 01:06:09,428 --> 01:06:10,998 through you Mr mayor members of council we have a 939 01:06:10,998 --> 01:06:14,208 second video delegation from Lisa Stokes and we're just going 940 01:06:14,208 --> 01:06:25,408 to get that ready to play right now 941 01:06:28,908 --> 01:06:31,608 good morning I'm Lisa Stokes and I would like to 942 01:06:31,608 --> 01:06:35,418 see Brampton promote and support public art 943 01:06:35,418 --> 01:06:39,768 imagined Williams parkway with a noise wall painted like this 944 01:06:39,768 --> 01:06:51,638 small on finch Avenue in Toronto 945 01:06:55,128 --> 01:06:58,358 public heard can be used to beautify and make our 946 01:06:58,358 --> 01:07:02,008 under passes more inviting 947 01:07:02,008 --> 01:07:05,178 imagine to be a role like this on Queen Street 948 01:07:05,888 --> 01:07:12,508 by the four corners library branch 949 01:07:12,508 --> 01:07:25,958 or like this on main street by the bus terminal 950 01:07:28,038 --> 01:07:31,078 public art can also be used to share our history 951 01:07:31,508 --> 01:07:41,108 like these murals in Islington Village Thorold colbern and Milverton 952 01:07:41,108 --> 01:07:44,898 Brampton has done something like this in BBM lane in 953 01:07:44,898 --> 01:07:55,418 downtown Brampton 954 01:07:59,098 --> 01:08:02,758 public art can also be used to beautify otherwise ugly 955 01:08:02,758 --> 01:08:06,698 places like parking lots as seen in these pictures in 956 01:08:06,698 --> 01:08:11,618 Toronto and Kitchener 957 01:08:11,618 --> 01:08:14,788 we've done that with our George street parking lot in 958 01:08:14,788 --> 01:08:22,408 downtown Brampton 959 01:08:22,408 --> 01:08:26,898 municipalities can create a sense of place in locations that 960 01:08:26,898 --> 01:08:31,648 the public might otherwise feel unsafe in and avoid 961 01:08:31,648 --> 01:08:37,798 these pictures are under palace park in Toronto 962 01:08:37,798 --> 01:08:41,888 Brampton could connect artists with businesses who are interested in 963 01:08:41,888 --> 01:08:52,828 doing creative advertising 964 01:08:58,198 --> 01:09:01,418 ... can be used to create beauty on walls that 965 01:09:01,418 --> 01:09:05,848 are otherwise boring around slightly 966 01:09:05,848 --> 01:09:08,868 as seen in these pictures Singh Goderich G. and on 967 01:09:08,868 --> 01:09:17,868 Manitoulin island 968 01:09:17,868 --> 01:09:21,448 or can be used on transit systems to make underpasses 969 01:09:21,448 --> 01:09:24,548 feel more inviting 970 01:09:24,548 --> 01:09:27,778 we have so many places along our trail system where 971 01:09:27,778 --> 01:09:34,468 we could create art like this 972 01:09:34,468 --> 01:09:37,378 public art can be used to add color and whimsy 973 01:09:37,378 --> 01:09:48,948 an otherwise drab places 974 01:09:53,418 --> 01:10:00,778 it can be used to beautify roads and calm traffic 975 01:10:00,778 --> 01:10:09,568 imagine painting the Truman street bridge like this 976 01:10:09,568 --> 01:10:14,328 look at how Brampton transforms this disused highway bridge into 977 01:10:14,498 --> 01:10:27,258 a beautiful piece of active transportation infrastructure 978 01:10:27,588 --> 01:10:31,898 let's get artists and the city of Brampton together to 979 01:10:31,898 --> 01:10:41,758 make Brampton beautiful place using public art 980 01:10:41,758 --> 01:10:44,988 ... mayor Brown members of council are third delegations from 981 01:10:44,988 --> 01:10:48,088 John countries all and artist we do see somebody in 982 01:10:48,088 --> 01:10:50,768 the attendee list identified only as John we're just gonna 983 01:10:50,768 --> 01:10:53,278 meet that person just verify the first John catches ola 984 01:10:53,968 --> 01:10:56,158 ... John is that you 985 01:10:56,158 --> 01:10:58,988 yes okay good good morning ... we're just gonna bring 986 01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:01,588 you into the meeting as a panelist and then you 987 01:11:01,588 --> 01:11:03,428 can proceed now you have up to five minutes to 988 01:11:03,428 --> 01:11:05,648 address council 989 01:11:05,648 --> 01:11:09,528 well the first of all good morning everyone this time 990 01:11:09,528 --> 01:11:11,958 to shine in Brampton and I 991 01:11:11,958 --> 01:11:15,608 but I'm hoping that is the needs of that that 992 01:11:15,608 --> 01:11:18,138 we are in a life that and that ... we 993 01:11:18,138 --> 01:11:21,618 are up the side of a great year I had 994 01:11:21,618 --> 01:11:25,418 a great innovation thinking and our city 995 01:11:25,418 --> 01:11:28,438 I'm here on my behalf of behalf of boundary thirty 996 01:11:28,438 --> 01:11:32,718 five and under happen your Brampton as well ... I'm 997 01:11:32,718 --> 01:11:36,458 here because that they be speaker before I did it 998 01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:40,338 for me the said to better well ... our city 999 01:11:40,368 --> 01:11:45,128 needs attention in a big way ... we need to 1000 01:11:45,128 --> 01:11:48,198 change our direction on how we think about art and 1001 01:11:48,198 --> 01:11:52,678 who you know will parkway is an example it's unfortunate 1002 01:11:52,788 --> 01:11:56,818 that it is a structure that is better residents it 1003 01:11:56,818 --> 01:11:59,678 should not happen it should not be that way but 1004 01:11:59,678 --> 01:12:02,718 it is and it's a disgrace and not only because 1005 01:12:02,788 --> 01:12:05,908 it is a disgrace in its design there's a disgrace 1006 01:12:05,908 --> 01:12:10,198 because it's so recent we should not have done that 1007 01:12:10,198 --> 01:12:13,258 yes we learning ... need some money to fix it 1008 01:12:13,258 --> 01:12:17,148 but we have to fix it because while the under 1009 01:12:17,148 --> 01:12:21,188 possum page featured justifiable was there for a hundred years 1010 01:12:22,278 --> 01:12:26,348 there's a justification because that's where with that the times 1011 01:12:27,028 --> 01:12:30,388 but that's what you're like that that is just being 1012 01:12:30,388 --> 01:12:32,428 done in the last three or four years it is 1013 01:12:32,428 --> 01:12:35,758 an investment to the city it is that's why I 1014 01:12:35,758 --> 01:12:39,368 put priority on that one because it's a different situation 1015 01:12:39,368 --> 01:12:43,008 is a situation that we should not hot however we 1016 01:12:43,008 --> 01:12:45,658 do need to do what it needed to do to 1017 01:12:45,658 --> 01:12:50,298 fix that because that is the most embarrassing situation that 1018 01:12:50,298 --> 01:12:55,228 we created ... how could be done are you would 1019 01:12:55,228 --> 01:12:58,548 expect when you know not disagreeing with an artist with 1020 01:12:58,548 --> 01:13:03,208 the knowledge of the city building at the city needs 1021 01:13:03,838 --> 01:13:08,668 to put together a bit landscape our rules of separate 1022 01:13:09,108 --> 01:13:13,708 parts and a book arts everywhere in the city what 1023 01:13:13,708 --> 01:13:17,068 I hope with that we achieve this morning ... it's 1024 01:13:17,068 --> 01:13:20,868 one the bigger issue and that is that the we 1025 01:13:20,868 --> 01:13:27,458 played you to put a considerable and I would budgets 1026 01:13:27,458 --> 01:13:31,628 ... to find it the arts in our city either 1027 01:13:31,628 --> 01:13:32,798 we 1028 01:13:32,798 --> 01:13:35,458 or we die 1029 01:13:35,458 --> 01:13:38,758 arts and culture is an element of life in every 1030 01:13:38,758 --> 01:13:42,208 city where the eighth largest city in the country we 1031 01:13:42,438 --> 01:13:45,228 have to do our part 1032 01:13:45,228 --> 01:13:50,378 to keep ourselves above the criticism ... the negative image 1033 01:13:50,888 --> 01:13:54,618 I do appreciate a way investment in our city considerable 1034 01:13:54,618 --> 01:14:00,638 investment registered investment she and and ... investments that is 1035 01:14:00,738 --> 01:14:05,578 designed for ... it should be quite cities over Westminster 1036 01:14:05,578 --> 01:14:08,918 goes through first class cities those are the choices we 1037 01:14:08,918 --> 01:14:11,648 can have a lot of nonprofit the house line up 1038 01:14:11,648 --> 01:14:14,238 our city we don't have a lot of the of 1039 01:14:14,238 --> 01:14:18,158 the the people come and take advantage of putting a 1040 01:14:18,158 --> 01:14:20,618 structures in our city as we did for the last 1041 01:14:20,718 --> 01:14:24,378 forty years and care less about what this city is 1042 01:14:24,378 --> 01:14:27,668 gonna look like twenty years from now I spent my 1043 01:14:27,668 --> 01:14:31,788 four years of raising this issue what is that we 1044 01:14:31,788 --> 01:14:35,178 want to be in twenty years from now 1045 01:14:35,178 --> 01:14:38,068 and I'll tell you that art 1046 01:14:38,068 --> 01:14:43,158 any culture beautification is such an integral part of its 1047 01:14:43,158 --> 01:14:47,738 successful city do not treated as a luxury it's not 1048 01:14:47,738 --> 01:14:52,718 a luxury it's a necessity that you need to address 1049 01:14:52,908 --> 01:14:56,398 so your children or anybody who own a house anybody 1050 01:14:56,398 --> 01:15:00,548 who lives in the city needs prestige 1051 01:15:00,548 --> 01:15:04,348 the product and we need to keep the children here 1052 01:15:04,418 --> 01:15:07,908 not because of the level they need to through the 1053 01:15:07,908 --> 01:15:11,478 wall somewhere else but because they choose to be here 1054 01:15:11,478 --> 01:15:14,788 and because the professionals the best in the world choose 1055 01:15:14,788 --> 01:15:18,668 to build a career in our city not to goal 1056 01:15:18,968 --> 01:15:25,208 I do not been accepted any other ... 1057 01:15:25,208 --> 01:15:28,418 if you're in a country 1058 01:15:28,418 --> 01:15:32,078 1059 01:15:32,078 --> 01:15:35,558 did they say I'm I'm next if it's six months 1060 01:15:35,558 --> 01:15:38,058 ago to be eighty years old and I spend my 1061 01:15:38,058 --> 01:15:40,018 last fifty 1062 01:15:40,018 --> 01:15:44,098 saying the same thing this is not for me but 1063 01:15:44,098 --> 01:15:46,638 for you and your children 1064 01:15:46,638 --> 01:15:51,648 something about and start with fixing this wall to make 1065 01:15:51,648 --> 01:15:55,748 it a problem US all right and yes we can 1066 01:15:55,748 --> 01:15:58,928 fix our problems and let's do it thank you very 1067 01:15:58,928 --> 01:16:01,848 much 1068 01:16:01,848 --> 01:16:03,988 thank you John and Mister Merrett council that concludes the 1069 01:16:03,988 --> 01:16:06,508 delegations on this item so we have a lengthy list 1070 01:16:06,508 --> 01:16:09,508 of speakers I have cancer Santos followed by council for 1071 01:16:09,508 --> 01:16:15,528 TV then cancer Williams plushie are Madeiros and St so 1072 01:16:15,528 --> 01:16:19,678 councillor Santos your first 1073 01:16:19,678 --> 01:16:23,988 thank you so much and through you Mr chairman I 1074 01:16:23,988 --> 01:16:26,748 just wanna say thank you to John which was the 1075 01:16:26,748 --> 01:16:29,918 lead to Vijay ... as well as to the same 1076 01:16:29,918 --> 01:16:35,688 person meeting their delegations I am the council representative for 1077 01:16:35,688 --> 01:16:40,068 SCN Arts in in Brampton and that when I saw 1078 01:16:40,068 --> 01:16:44,198 this particular project come up it was that I thought 1079 01:16:44,198 --> 01:16:48,228 is a huge opportunity to really advocate and push for 1080 01:16:48,228 --> 01:16:51,178 support for public art in our city and I have 1081 01:16:51,178 --> 01:16:54,788 some questions for staff staff in that regards ... but 1082 01:16:54,788 --> 01:16:58,398 first I just want to congratulate the community were at 1083 01:16:58,398 --> 01:17:01,618 such a high level of engagement on the survey ... 1084 01:17:01,668 --> 01:17:04,608 that what is that brought forward and I know that 1085 01:17:04,898 --> 01:17:07,468 there was that you know that that the votes were 1086 01:17:07,468 --> 01:17:10,968 tight but the reality is that the popular vote on 1087 01:17:10,968 --> 01:17:15,758 this survey was for public art and into artists in 1088 01:17:15,758 --> 01:17:18,188 the city and its you those those kids in the 1089 01:17:18,188 --> 01:17:21,808 city who quite frankly you know we spend hundreds of 1090 01:17:21,808 --> 01:17:26,108 millions of dollars on sports and sports ... I had 1091 01:17:26,108 --> 01:17:29,268 a parent who said to me ... you know read 1092 01:17:29,268 --> 01:17:33,288 when I go around the CDA see baseball diamonds and 1093 01:17:33,288 --> 01:17:37,458 sports fields and cricket fields but my son is not 1094 01:17:37,488 --> 01:17:41,078 interested in sports my son is interested in the arts 1095 01:17:41,678 --> 01:17:45,618 and and this project on Williams parkway is an opportunity 1096 01:17:45,618 --> 01:17:50,598 to cultivate and inspire young people across the city I'm 1097 01:17:50,628 --> 01:17:54,708 an artist across the city public art in courts matters 1098 01:17:55,078 --> 01:17:58,108 to the city of Brampton and that and so I 1099 01:17:58,108 --> 01:18:01,758 have ... at eight o'clock from time the struggle and 1100 01:18:01,758 --> 01:18:04,638 I do have questions for the delegate as well but 1101 01:18:04,908 --> 01:18:08,728 struggle was beaten your artist you depend on your at 1102 01:18:08,788 --> 01:18:12,028 Brampton fire station twenty eleven and she wanted me to 1103 01:18:12,028 --> 01:18:14,498 share this court with everybody because you can join us 1104 01:18:14,498 --> 01:18:17,638 today she said we're starting to see more public art 1105 01:18:17,638 --> 01:18:18,618 on buildings road 1106 01:18:18,618 --> 01:18:21,518 it's construction hoarding and the value it brings to a 1107 01:18:21,518 --> 01:18:25,388 community art does not just paint a pretty picture it 1108 01:18:25,388 --> 01:18:30,428 also captures an audience creates discussion and stimulate imagination and 1109 01:18:30,428 --> 01:18:33,108 we know that from the activity on social media from 1110 01:18:33,108 --> 01:18:36,138 all the artists and residents with respect to the articles 1111 01:18:36,138 --> 01:18:38,688 that came out on this matter as well as disturbing 1112 01:18:39,118 --> 01:18:42,758 comments Brighton that they've been neighbourhoods imagery tells a story 1113 01:18:42,908 --> 01:18:47,078 and stories engage people to each other all ages and 1114 01:18:47,078 --> 01:18:49,318 colors if you look at the social media posts the 1115 01:18:49,318 --> 01:18:51,848 majority of them say that this wall is I believe 1116 01:18:52,038 --> 01:18:53,868 and we need to do something and we have an 1117 01:18:53,868 --> 01:18:57,858 opportunity to really change that we've got going walk into 1118 01:18:57,978 --> 01:19:01,778 a master piece of art that brings people together and 1119 01:19:01,778 --> 01:19:04,948 creates a sense of belonging I'm gonna ask a quick 1120 01:19:05,068 --> 01:19:08,108 quick question to staff at the moment because there's a 1121 01:19:08,108 --> 01:19:11,858 lot of conversation right now about finding 1122 01:19:11,858 --> 01:19:14,488 and and I guess that through you Mr chair connect 1123 01:19:14,548 --> 01:19:16,648 is it because I'm going to ask questions to staff 1124 01:19:16,648 --> 01:19:19,528 can also bring the report forward as well so we 1125 01:19:19,528 --> 01:19:24,838 can discuss it in conjunction 1126 01:19:24,838 --> 01:19:27,408 I'll take that as a yes 1127 01:19:27,408 --> 01:19:31,768 so the question to staff and is that ... you 1128 01:19:31,768 --> 01:19:35,148 know why is it that opportunities like the Brampton fire 1129 01:19:35,148 --> 01:19:39,558 station and the and the Williams parkway wall why is 1130 01:19:39,558 --> 01:19:43,388 it that it's such a good opportunity in terms of 1131 01:19:43,388 --> 01:19:47,098 public art do we even have a budget to support 1132 01:19:47,098 --> 01:19:49,608 public art at this time and that question I guess 1133 01:19:49,608 --> 01:19:55,278 is to Kelly 1134 01:19:55,278 --> 01:19:57,318 the morning through the chair thank you for your question 1135 01:19:57,318 --> 01:20:00,038 councillor Santos right now the public our program at the 1136 01:20:00,038 --> 01:20:03,308 city does not have an annual operating budget so we've 1137 01:20:03,308 --> 01:20:06,938 been really lucky to have successful partnerships with Brampton fire 1138 01:20:07,728 --> 01:20:12,318 with our integrated downtown and team to do recent temporary 1139 01:20:12,318 --> 01:20:15,238 public art projects ... it's important for us to have 1140 01:20:15,238 --> 01:20:19,908 partnerships with operating departments across the city that have capital 1141 01:20:19,908 --> 01:20:23,238 budget and are interested in making investments in arts and 1142 01:20:23,238 --> 01:20:26,498 culture it helps to amplify the minutes that we've made 1143 01:20:26,498 --> 01:20:29,528 in the culture master plan ... by partnering with these 1144 01:20:29,678 --> 01:20:33,098 departments and and being able to find these projects that 1145 01:20:33,098 --> 01:20:36,208 we wouldn't otherwise be able to do 1146 01:20:36,208 --> 01:20:41,238 the TV so so that Williams parkway wall itself ... 1147 01:20:41,578 --> 01:20:46,208 the money is already allocated in budget is that correct 1148 01:20:46,208 --> 01:20:50,718 as part of the capital project of the wall 1149 01:20:50,718 --> 01:20:53,208 through the chair I believe public works would have to 1150 01:20:53,208 --> 01:20:55,848 confirm that that is my understanding 1151 01:20:55,848 --> 01:20:58,808 okay great through the chair it sucked him because like 1152 01:20:58,808 --> 01:21:01,498 acting Director of capital works and I want to confirm 1153 01:21:01,838 --> 01:21:03,938 yes we do have three hundred thousand it was included 1154 01:21:03,938 --> 01:21:07,388 in the budget to accommodate the artwork on the wall 1155 01:21:08,108 --> 01:21:10,928 okay thank you and so ... this is not a 1156 01:21:10,928 --> 01:21:14,878 budget amendment but as her what staff have responded to 1157 01:21:15,008 --> 01:21:18,988 we do not have any budget specifically for public art 1158 01:21:19,268 --> 01:21:21,918 and I've been bringing up this point now for a 1159 01:21:21,918 --> 01:21:26,508 few months related to asking various departments to please consider 1160 01:21:26,508 --> 01:21:29,738 integrating public are into your capital projects because we don't 1161 01:21:29,738 --> 01:21:32,118 have a budget for public art yet and so the 1162 01:21:32,118 --> 01:21:36,638 Williams parkway wall and threatening that entire conversation and now 1163 01:21:36,638 --> 01:21:40,438 through this survey and popular support and on going ... 1164 01:21:40,438 --> 01:21:43,788 buzz around it is an opportunity to do just that 1165 01:21:44,148 --> 01:21:48,638 ... I'm going to ask a question to delegate John 1166 01:21:48,638 --> 01:21:51,978 country so a lot ... how do you feel about 1167 01:21:52,468 --> 01:21:55,388 it as an artist and and and you're quite frankly 1168 01:21:55,418 --> 01:21:58,288 many of your buildings all of your buildings are work 1169 01:21:58,288 --> 01:22:01,048 of art as well how do you feel about the 1170 01:22:01,048 --> 01:22:07,038 opportunity to have public art ... tell a story about 1171 01:22:07,038 --> 01:22:11,008 Brampton's ... on on on the Williams parkway wall what 1172 01:22:11,558 --> 01:22:16,718 are you thinking about it 1173 01:22:16,718 --> 01:22:18,668 then 1174 01:22:18,668 --> 01:22:24,788 yes we can 1175 01:22:24,788 --> 01:22:27,678 yes it to me 1176 01:22:27,678 --> 01:22:30,118 as a as an artist 1177 01:22:30,118 --> 01:22:33,128 and as a building because it is confusing my life 1178 01:22:33,128 --> 01:22:34,848 is a little bit confusing I don't know how to 1179 01:22:34,848 --> 01:22:38,628 identify myself one or the other ... I work as 1180 01:22:38,628 --> 01:22:40,868 an artist or my life or whatever I do it 1181 01:22:40,898 --> 01:22:44,128 is the building what is it ... is ... ... 1182 01:22:44,128 --> 01:22:50,428 reserve ... this speaking I always talk about arts and 1183 01:22:50,428 --> 01:22:56,518 even portion of arts in building the city ... D. 1184 01:22:56,518 --> 01:23:00,368 I think that I always raise it was ... we 1185 01:23:00,368 --> 01:23:04,468 have the models of cities ... in Europe for example 1186 01:23:04,468 --> 01:23:07,718 that they don't have also all Wales they don't have 1187 01:23:07,718 --> 01:23:10,518 the gold mines they don't have a what do they 1188 01:23:10,518 --> 01:23:12,648 have is that what the artist in the last two 1189 01:23:12,648 --> 01:23:15,378 thousand years ago last to them 1190 01:23:15,378 --> 01:23:17,998 and that's a good way the economy of the end 1191 01:23:17,998 --> 01:23:22,428 user ... Rome or Paris or that's those city leave 1192 01:23:22,498 --> 01:23:28,228 off we cannot ignore the effect us arts and culture 1193 01:23:28,258 --> 01:23:31,878 in the success will city please I don't know I 1194 01:23:31,878 --> 01:23:35,038 will I'm gonna do I did before or ... my 1195 01:23:35,038 --> 01:23:39,368 entire life ... I continue to do and and may 1196 01:23:39,368 --> 01:23:42,628 sound that I preach but it is something that I 1197 01:23:42,628 --> 01:23:46,218 deeply feel for our city how did you get to 1198 01:23:46,218 --> 01:23:48,928 myself does it make my kids leave here they didn't 1199 01:23:48,928 --> 01:23:52,608 go anywhere ... it's hard to keep them here trust 1200 01:23:52,608 --> 01:23:55,878 me and unless we put our head in the sand 1201 01:23:55,878 --> 01:24:00,008 and not listen to our kids they wanna leave because 1202 01:24:00,008 --> 01:24:04,848 there is a ... something about them not selling proud 1203 01:24:04,998 --> 01:24:09,818 of their city we must address that because of that 1204 01:24:10,088 --> 01:24:14,558 US seems simple and they're not enough but is it 1205 01:24:14,588 --> 01:24:18,618 is so deeply connected with the economy of the city 1206 01:24:18,648 --> 01:24:22,808 of the future we need to do everything that we 1207 01:24:22,838 --> 01:24:24,528 can 1208 01:24:24,528 --> 01:24:28,498 and now emerging culture to give them encouragement that we 1209 01:24:28,498 --> 01:24:32,048 are changing our city and our we're changing our thinking 1210 01:24:32,608 --> 01:24:35,738 I was thinking is that we are the eighth largest 1211 01:24:35,738 --> 01:24:40,718 city in this country let's rise to that level let's 1212 01:24:41,158 --> 01:24:44,438 let's don't treated this thinks other effort in all just 1213 01:24:44,538 --> 01:24:47,878 just it's just something we can do without we can't 1214 01:24:47,878 --> 01:24:51,958 do without the citizens of Brampton they want 1215 01:24:51,958 --> 01:24:56,388 this will be done trust to be leaving here I 1216 01:24:56,388 --> 01:25:00,118 think two people follow and then appreciate what I said 1217 01:25:00,118 --> 01:25:04,318 what I did in my fifty years here ... if 1218 01:25:04,458 --> 01:25:08,918 there is a necessity and necessity bigger than you think 1219 01:25:08,918 --> 01:25:13,468 we're losing billions of dollars in our own bodies why 1220 01:25:13,468 --> 01:25:16,198 should somebody else be bragging about the price in their 1221 01:25:16,198 --> 01:25:19,258 house in Markham is the higher the Brampton or Mississauga 1222 01:25:19,798 --> 01:25:22,738 Brampton and it's it's it all and they should Mike 1223 01:25:22,738 --> 01:25:26,198 you've done because you know ... brown to us only 1224 01:25:26,558 --> 01:25:30,508 as Brampton let's let's change this for the sake of 1225 01:25:30,508 --> 01:25:32,838 our children and we've got to start with this we 1226 01:25:32,838 --> 01:25:35,438 go to start with saying look what we have where 1227 01:25:35,788 --> 01:25:39,178 will you have we have a parks that brown is 1228 01:25:39,178 --> 01:25:42,278 lucky we have with the basic needs here we have 1229 01:25:42,278 --> 01:25:45,848 a open field we have parks we have been supporting 1230 01:25:46,098 --> 01:25:51,198 infrastructures would we don't have a certain culture and and 1231 01:25:51,198 --> 01:25:54,118 the beautification of our city but it's a necessary special 1232 01:25:54,308 --> 01:26:00,018 into downtown downtown is not mine is not yours it's 1233 01:26:00,018 --> 01:26:02,948 seven hundred and fifty thousand people that live in this 1234 01:26:02,948 --> 01:26:06,108 city they need to their front room this is their 1235 01:26:06,898 --> 01:26:11,068 place where they brag about about the city the downtown 1236 01:26:11,068 --> 01:26:14,808 needs to be kept as it as the most important 1237 01:26:14,808 --> 01:26:17,968 parts of our city it did not turn because love 1238 01:26:18,068 --> 01:26:20,828 I have that I can show you every option on 1239 01:26:20,858 --> 01:26:26,208 on on on the ... Google where they call it 1240 01:26:26,208 --> 01:26:30,398 colors downtown as a lamb I have to sleep overnight 1241 01:26:30,648 --> 01:26:33,488 because I spend forty years but the downtown meant and 1242 01:26:33,488 --> 01:26:36,868 now I feel that they call it's a slam 1243 01:26:36,868 --> 01:26:40,118 please 1244 01:26:40,118 --> 01:26:43,088 we don't thank you so much down in the chair 1245 01:26:43,088 --> 01:26:46,358 and my beach you councillors you've been ... you know 1246 01:26:46,388 --> 01:26:48,468 you know many of us we all know who you 1247 01:26:48,468 --> 01:26:51,768 are and speaking on behalf of that new Brampton as 1248 01:26:51,768 --> 01:26:55,628 well and you know what what would your advice be 1249 01:26:55,658 --> 01:26:58,508 or what would your feedback and comments beats you two 1250 01:26:58,508 --> 01:27:03,428 councillors into folks who are wanting ... option one or 1251 01:27:03,428 --> 01:27:06,658 to leave the noise wall as it is and not 1252 01:27:07,088 --> 01:27:08,618 what you need 1253 01:27:08,618 --> 01:27:11,428 they will need to be fixed that for the reason 1254 01:27:11,428 --> 01:27:15,478 I said before is because it's an example of modern 1255 01:27:15,478 --> 01:27:19,168 thinking Brampton could not look back this has to be 1256 01:27:19,168 --> 01:27:22,548 fixed because we should have done better and I don't 1257 01:27:22,548 --> 01:27:25,008 want more people to see it this is about is 1258 01:27:25,118 --> 01:27:29,058 let's fix it before the world uses an example of 1259 01:27:29,058 --> 01:27:32,508 what not to do but let's fix it it's not 1260 01:27:32,508 --> 01:27:35,708 just public art he told the two sides I went 1261 01:27:35,708 --> 01:27:38,568 up and down with his bike ways three times yesterday 1262 01:27:38,858 --> 01:27:41,728 to convince myself of what what could be done I 1263 01:27:41,728 --> 01:27:45,088 couldn't I couldn't I have some experience in and ... 1264 01:27:45,088 --> 01:27:48,068 dated of those things I can I can help with 1265 01:27:48,068 --> 01:27:51,398 the ideas but it is a combination of public arts 1266 01:27:51,728 --> 01:27:55,538 in new commercial landscaping specific the trees that they have 1267 01:27:55,538 --> 01:27:58,958 a foster growth and covered the same needs in some 1268 01:27:58,958 --> 01:28:01,548 parts a little bit of changing the color of the 1269 01:28:01,548 --> 01:28:06,468 top panel of the the top of the miles of 1270 01:28:06,498 --> 01:28:11,008 of things so ... less let's say get together with 1271 01:28:11,008 --> 01:28:13,988 somebody to discuss it we can we can fix that 1272 01:28:14,358 --> 01:28:16,988 and we need to fix and not because 1273 01:28:16,988 --> 01:28:19,408 you know it's just the R. two just it's needs 1274 01:28:19,408 --> 01:28:23,648 to be fixed to fix our image would be under 1275 01:28:23,648 --> 01:28:27,808 because under the under the railroad the downtown Brampton on 1276 01:28:27,808 --> 01:28:31,228 Queen Street is it's a shame it's a shame that 1277 01:28:31,228 --> 01:28:34,548 all those years we can't we can't not we can 1278 01:28:34,548 --> 01:28:37,288 not even put some pants a little on those walls 1279 01:28:37,458 --> 01:28:42,408 the underpass we need to fix those things in order 1280 01:28:42,408 --> 01:28:45,718 to fix ourselves to think 1281 01:28:45,718 --> 01:28:47,788 thank you so much time and that I have a 1282 01:28:47,788 --> 01:28:51,388 couple of questions now to you to staff because don 1283 01:28:51,388 --> 01:28:54,668 brought up a couple of really good points ... one 1284 01:28:54,668 --> 01:28:58,318 was about comparing at you know cities around the world 1285 01:28:58,318 --> 01:29:02,478 who don't have ... you know colder don't have ... 1286 01:29:02,478 --> 01:29:05,448 natural resources per se but what they do have like 1287 01:29:05,698 --> 01:29:10,058 in in in Rome or is is art and ending 1288 01:29:10,058 --> 01:29:12,388 vested in art and and people come and visit them 1289 01:29:12,388 --> 01:29:15,898 because of the art and so question to Kelly and 1290 01:29:15,898 --> 01:29:18,768 just a reminder for folks in addition to the fact 1291 01:29:18,768 --> 01:29:20,918 that we have no public art budget at the city 1292 01:29:20,918 --> 01:29:24,278 of Brampton and these capital works projects ... opportunity to 1293 01:29:24,278 --> 01:29:28,938 actually find public art but compared to other municipalities where 1294 01:29:28,938 --> 01:29:31,628 it is the city stand when it comes to funding 1295 01:29:31,628 --> 01:29:36,738 arts and culture 1296 01:29:36,738 --> 01:29:40,778 through the chair following the approval of the culture master 1297 01:29:40,778 --> 01:29:44,398 plan in twenty eighteen staff were directed to look at 1298 01:29:44,428 --> 01:29:47,238 the capital investment per capita 1299 01:29:47,238 --> 01:29:50,648 close your investment in twenty nineteen which came in at 1300 01:29:50,648 --> 01:29:54,408 sixteen dollars and fifty eight cents per capita 1301 01:29:54,408 --> 01:29:58,498 when compared to relatives municipalities the average was twenty four 1302 01:29:58,498 --> 01:30:01,258 dollars once I thought about not ridge of seven dollars 1303 01:30:01,298 --> 01:30:05,828 hello and in twenty nineteen looking at the investments that 1304 01:30:05,828 --> 01:30:09,728 were made in twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen 1305 01:30:09,728 --> 01:30:12,238 thank you so much Kelly and this is why when 1306 01:30:12,238 --> 01:30:16,568 opportunities like this or the fire station or more integrated 1307 01:30:16,568 --> 01:30:20,808 approaches to putting a public art and incorporating an artist 1308 01:30:21,148 --> 01:30:24,268 who live in Brampton as part of what the city 1309 01:30:24,268 --> 01:30:28,398 does is so important until we actually fix that formula 1310 01:30:28,618 --> 01:30:31,278 because we are trying our very best to push and 1311 01:30:31,278 --> 01:30:34,838 catch up now my next question is now to I 1312 01:30:34,838 --> 01:30:38,908 guess make parks and future public works ... the delegates 1313 01:30:38,938 --> 01:30:41,698 at Mr John could just a lack that talked about 1314 01:30:41,728 --> 01:30:46,308 urban landscaping and that you know planning for urban landscaping 1315 01:30:46,308 --> 01:30:49,348 and trees and I understand that there will be an 1316 01:30:49,348 --> 01:30:53,348 update to council coming in the future about you know 1317 01:30:53,348 --> 01:30:56,478 locations for where that urban landscaping and trees might be 1318 01:30:56,478 --> 01:30:59,438 located around the wall could you provide some comment on 1319 01:30:59,438 --> 01:31:03,488 that just for John 1320 01:31:03,488 --> 01:31:06,478 thank you hello Sir good morning through the chair ... 1321 01:31:06,518 --> 01:31:10,228 yes as part of the ... ... the road ... 1322 01:31:10,878 --> 01:31:14,468 project ... there are there will be ... urban landscaping 1323 01:31:14,468 --> 01:31:18,968 changes there will be additions for ... active transportation they'll 1324 01:31:18,968 --> 01:31:23,678 be ... ... more amenity spaces identified through that through 1325 01:31:23,678 --> 01:31:27,098 that project ... for the entirely length of the project 1326 01:31:27,128 --> 01:31:32,408 which will ... definitely ... enhance of the art project 1327 01:31:32,738 --> 01:31:38,028 ... that is being proposed as part of this report 1328 01:31:38,028 --> 01:31:41,118 thank you very much make any and I realize I'm 1329 01:31:41,148 --> 01:31:46,948 you know there this has brought about tremendous engagement from 1330 01:31:46,948 --> 01:31:50,308 the community I know that the residents in wards one 1331 01:31:50,308 --> 01:31:53,338 in five those who are taking their the left along 1332 01:31:53,338 --> 01:31:56,728 the wall want to see something happen I know that 1333 01:31:56,728 --> 01:32:00,338 they were furious when it started to get installed in 1334 01:32:00,338 --> 01:32:02,708 in early twenty nineteen they were some of the first 1335 01:32:02,708 --> 01:32:05,618 complaints that council Vincenti and I caught when we first 1336 01:32:06,248 --> 01:32:10,228 got elected on to on to council ... and while 1337 01:32:10,228 --> 01:32:12,848 it was a decision that was made in the previous 1338 01:32:12,848 --> 01:32:17,658 term we do have an opportunity to to to change 1339 01:32:17,658 --> 01:32:21,588 that decision and to create something beautiful as her what 1340 01:32:21,588 --> 01:32:25,308 the delegates have here today that being said I would 1341 01:32:25,308 --> 01:32:28,938 ... like to take into consideration that there will be 1342 01:32:28,938 --> 01:32:33,218 an update related to urban landscaping and trees ... there 1343 01:32:33,218 --> 01:32:36,648 is any indication it right now on on what should 1344 01:32:36,648 --> 01:32:39,818 be on those walls it's that kind of artist reach 1345 01:32:39,848 --> 01:32:43,228 out to proceed a as well as myself directly with 1346 01:32:43,228 --> 01:32:47,318 various ideas Karens have reached out ... and so what 1347 01:32:47,318 --> 01:32:50,528 I think would be the most a measured approach and 1348 01:32:50,528 --> 01:32:53,678 I know I've spoken to cancer Williams about this as 1349 01:32:53,678 --> 01:32:58,148 well ... and perhaps that she might be wanting to 1350 01:32:58,148 --> 01:33:02,588 second that this motion but I would like to refer 1351 01:33:02,888 --> 01:33:05,148 the report to staff 1352 01:33:05,148 --> 01:33:08,418 and in that referred to staff ... I'm wondering if 1353 01:33:08,418 --> 01:33:12,268 you could please report back to council with more current 1354 01:33:12,268 --> 01:33:16,298 with the plan related to the five kilometer stretch that 1355 01:33:16,298 --> 01:33:20,668 identifies locations of urban landscape as for what might parks 1356 01:33:20,668 --> 01:33:26,428 has described but also locations and themes related to public 1357 01:33:26,428 --> 01:33:31,128 art and timelines for implementation so that's a referral back 1358 01:33:31,128 --> 01:33:35,348 to staff to report back to council with the plan 1359 01:33:35,348 --> 01:33:39,918 for the five kilometer stretch that identifies locations for urban 1360 01:33:39,918 --> 01:33:45,448 landscape and that public art and potential themes and timeline 1361 01:33:45,978 --> 01:33:49,848 for implementation and that's my refer a motion ... thank 1362 01:33:49,848 --> 01:33:54,928 you very much 1363 01:33:54,928 --> 01:33:56,518 okay 1364 01:33:56,518 --> 01:33:58,918 so there is the referral motion and now we're speaking 1365 01:33:58,918 --> 01:34:02,258 refer a motion next up on the list is 1366 01:34:02,258 --> 01:34:05,448 14 councillor Fortini 1367 01:34:05,448 --> 01:34:08,808 thank you Mr Mayor ... ... speaking to the referral 1368 01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:12,008 also suggest the same thing ... who are going through 1369 01:34:12,008 --> 01:34:15,998 she said well you know that and ... you know 1370 01:34:15,998 --> 01:34:18,978 this is something that the old archer told jurors really 1371 01:34:18,978 --> 01:34:21,688 ... an engine driver also and I do agree on 1372 01:34:21,688 --> 01:34:23,068 that 1373 01:34:23,068 --> 01:34:25,848 just to talk to Kelly we have a budget for 1374 01:34:25,848 --> 01:34:31,658 the arts in the past 1375 01:34:31,658 --> 01:34:33,278 through the chair 1376 01:34:33,278 --> 01:34:36,938 ... Fortini are you specifically asking about a budget for 1377 01:34:36,938 --> 01:34:40,648 public ... yeah we had one in the past 1378 01:34:40,648 --> 01:34:44,128 we've had to ... budgets that have been assigned specifically 1379 01:34:44,128 --> 01:34:47,988 to project based budgets capital project based budgets but we 1380 01:34:47,988 --> 01:34:51,278 have not to my knowledge had an annual operating budget 1381 01:34:51,278 --> 01:34:55,128 to support public art yeah so my question is why 1382 01:34:55,438 --> 01:34:58,558 we ... talk about this the our budget to bring 1383 01:34:58,558 --> 01:35:01,328 the budget for the arts and culture 1384 01:35:01,328 --> 01:35:04,148 there was never mentioned so my other thing is I 1385 01:35:04,148 --> 01:35:07,628 don't want to the walls and look at our you 1386 01:35:07,628 --> 01:35:10,038 know my efforts to stop this you know when these 1387 01:35:10,038 --> 01:35:12,208 walls are being put up 1388 01:35:12,208 --> 01:35:14,908 and we had all these complaints we got a close 1389 01:35:14,908 --> 01:35:17,768 up look at the time just like we stop William 1390 01:35:17,768 --> 01:35:21,358 parkway but we carried on nobody complained about 1391 01:35:21,358 --> 01:35:23,568 the other thing is when we do these arts are 1392 01:35:23,568 --> 01:35:26,598 we doing the whole wall we're just going certain areas 1393 01:35:26,818 --> 01:35:34,248 like parks are Jenna yes one is on the line 1394 01:35:34,248 --> 01:35:37,698 through the chair it said Tim because lack speaking with 1395 01:35:37,698 --> 01:35:41,008 the urban art we were looking at approximately three kilometers 1396 01:35:41,008 --> 01:35:44,588 of the total five kilometer length of wall focused mainly 1397 01:35:44,588 --> 01:35:48,068 around intersections in areas where we can't put landscaping in 1398 01:35:48,498 --> 01:35:50,918 for some of the street aways are areas where there 1399 01:35:50,918 --> 01:35:54,388 are additional space will be putting additional landscaping which will 1400 01:35:54,668 --> 01:35:57,408 buffer the existing wall but we want to focus at 1401 01:35:57,408 --> 01:36:01,858 the intersections and areas we can't put landscaping 1402 01:36:01,858 --> 01:36:04,608 yeah and so you know we started off with residents 1403 01:36:04,608 --> 01:36:07,458 complaining on the way that they like this color on 1404 01:36:07,458 --> 01:36:11,088 the wall we got it arcs ... I do support 1405 01:36:11,528 --> 01:36:14,378 our artists and I do believe that you know we 1406 01:36:14,378 --> 01:36:17,948 have these bridges and other areas these are but you 1407 01:36:17,948 --> 01:36:21,008 know ... one of W. think Lisa Shelby's like structures 1408 01:36:21,008 --> 01:36:23,818 and they're great but if you go on to wrongful 1409 01:36:23,928 --> 01:36:28,408 Wilson Avenue between Cuban doctors a bridge there beautiful thank 1410 01:36:28,408 --> 01:36:32,368 our goal Lawrence before California another one rather needing college 1411 01:36:32,778 --> 01:36:35,238 and my worry is but when they did these things 1412 01:36:35,368 --> 01:36:38,778 your amazing now you will partner it's also pretty paper 1413 01:36:38,938 --> 01:36:41,988 the kids kids are kids and we're gonna be going 1414 01:36:41,988 --> 01:36:45,448 around maintenance excellent I do believe these bridges or stop 1415 01:36:45,658 --> 01:36:48,698 should be ... we want to do it remember we 1416 01:36:48,698 --> 01:36:52,128 should we should address the budget for the art in 1417 01:36:52,128 --> 01:36:54,488 the last two years we never talk about the arts 1418 01:36:55,138 --> 01:36:57,818 and bring a bunch of the site and when this 1419 01:36:57,818 --> 01:36:59,628 role came up with the color was good the way 1420 01:36:59,628 --> 01:37:03,578 we stop William parkway we go stop the color we 1421 01:37:03,578 --> 01:37:07,008 came up with different panels up when we talk about 1422 01:37:07,008 --> 01:37:11,638 it all right so you know we servicing your community 1423 01:37:11,788 --> 01:37:15,388 and myself and council Charmaine Williams we heard a lot 1424 01:37:15,388 --> 01:37:17,838 of seniors complain enough to spend the money on those 1425 01:37:17,838 --> 01:37:20,478 walls do the arts somewhere else this thing somewhere else 1426 01:37:20,888 --> 01:37:23,018 and we've been getting a lot of calls if you 1427 01:37:23,018 --> 01:37:26,238 look at the actually the pulls up it's kind of 1428 01:37:26,238 --> 01:37:28,328 tight so it's kind of hard to say yes or 1429 01:37:28,328 --> 01:37:31,708 no are you know to support but I believe this 1430 01:37:31,968 --> 01:37:34,578 or anything to do with our children to budget we 1431 01:37:34,578 --> 01:37:37,138 always put money struggle for the arts in the past 1432 01:37:37,398 --> 01:37:39,148 I know what about it was a lot of money 1433 01:37:39,148 --> 01:37:40,958 for him and this is what you hear we can 1434 01:37:40,958 --> 01:37:44,728 even talk about arts whatsoever you know really shocking thank 1435 01:37:44,728 --> 01:37:46,958 you all these washer but stop them when they start 1436 01:37:47,008 --> 01:37:49,688 when choosing one up because falcons I'm going to talk 1437 01:37:50,228 --> 01:37:53,348 about so I'd like to report back and ... see 1438 01:37:53,348 --> 01:37:55,718 what certain areas in Brampton like the bridge and off 1439 01:37:55,718 --> 01:37:57,278 we want to do thank you for the support the 1440 01:37:57,278 --> 01:38:00,248 arts I will support to continue spending more money on 1441 01:38:00,248 --> 01:38:03,038 the walls are when we got the ball to the 1442 01:38:03,038 --> 01:38:06,108 looks like St Wilson and a lot of people in 1443 01:38:06,108 --> 01:38:08,258 my area single spend the money and a lot of 1444 01:38:08,258 --> 01:38:10,938 seniors are saying that we can support more seniors and 1445 01:38:11,078 --> 01:38:15,658 other areas are there COVID now it's very very hard 1446 01:38:15,658 --> 01:38:18,698 to spend money just on these walls there even though 1447 01:38:18,698 --> 01:38:21,558 there are different colour my area we stopped at noon 1448 01:38:21,618 --> 01:38:23,268 there is the walls 1449 01:38:23,268 --> 01:38:25,498 so we'll so there are police they have these walls 1450 01:38:25,498 --> 01:38:28,668 were supposed to be for some areas so I cannot 1451 01:38:28,668 --> 01:38:31,538 support the wall part but I will support bring a 1452 01:38:31,538 --> 01:38:34,818 report back for the arts people offering where the bridges 1453 01:38:34,818 --> 01:38:38,428 are another reason Brampton ... I I will support that 1454 01:38:38,488 --> 01:38:43,228 I'm not supporting the walls so thank you 1455 01:38:43,228 --> 01:38:46,878 councillor canceling this 1456 01:38:46,878 --> 01:38:49,778 thank you through you Mayor ... thank you to all 1457 01:38:49,778 --> 01:38:52,618 the delegations ... John it's always great to hear you 1458 01:38:52,618 --> 01:38:56,578 speak passionately about our city and ... I agree with 1459 01:38:56,578 --> 01:39:00,558 many of their sentiments ... I do have some questions 1460 01:39:00,608 --> 01:39:05,188 ... to staff ... about the report I'm 1461 01:39:05,188 --> 01:39:09,828 when when you did the survey did the survey inform 1462 01:39:09,828 --> 01:39:16,718 residents of the cost to put on the wall 1463 01:39:16,718 --> 01:39:18,768 through the chair it's such in close like I don't 1464 01:39:18,768 --> 01:39:21,968 believe the costs were indicated as part of the survey 1465 01:39:22,448 --> 01:39:25,538 it was more looking at the different options to to 1466 01:39:25,538 --> 01:39:27,478 look at how with a work commute the work to 1467 01:39:27,478 --> 01:39:28,928 be done 1468 01:39:28,928 --> 01:39:32,868 okay so residents don't actually know ... what we have 1469 01:39:32,928 --> 01:39:36,188 that could be allocated how much that would cost the 1470 01:39:36,188 --> 01:39:41,278 cost of hiring a ... arms like the organization to 1471 01:39:41,308 --> 01:39:45,648 ... consult and help us decide which artists and and 1472 01:39:45,648 --> 01:39:47,188 how they are going to put on the wall so 1473 01:39:47,188 --> 01:39:52,898 they actually don't know the cost of this art so 1474 01:39:52,928 --> 01:39:56,108 N. and I hear now that it's five Columbus that 1475 01:39:56,108 --> 01:39:59,668 are being proposed for the wall that would be painted 1476 01:40:00,018 --> 01:40:02,388 how long is the wall 1477 01:40:02,388 --> 01:40:04,848 how many kilometers is that 1478 01:40:04,848 --> 01:40:07,648 through the chair the actual laws five point five kilometers 1479 01:40:07,648 --> 01:40:07,838 an 1480 01:40:07,838 --> 01:40:10,908 thanks and we're looking at putting the urban art in 1481 01:40:10,938 --> 01:40:15,028 approximately three kilometers of the wall focus mainly on areas 1482 01:40:15,028 --> 01:40:18,118 where it's closer to intersections where people would be moving 1483 01:40:18,118 --> 01:40:22,638 slower or there's limited area for landscaping for approximately two 1484 01:40:22,638 --> 01:40:26,668 and a half kilometers we anticipate there'll be sufficient landscaping 1485 01:40:26,668 --> 01:40:29,268 to blend the wall in in those areas and focusing 1486 01:40:29,268 --> 01:40:33,418 more on the areas where landscaping isn't possible 1487 01:40:33,418 --> 01:40:38,218 he still three kilometers up the wall ... with ... 1488 01:40:38,218 --> 01:40:43,048 and we are proposing three hundred thousand or three commenters 1489 01:40:43,258 --> 01:40:45,048 is that correct 1490 01:40:45,048 --> 01:40:47,368 yes that's a based on the estimate working with the 1491 01:40:47,368 --> 01:40:48,788 arts group 1492 01:40:48,788 --> 01:40:51,368 and we can tailor that a little bit pending on 1493 01:40:51,428 --> 01:40:53,348 how the prices commend we can shorten a little bit 1494 01:40:53,348 --> 01:40:56,348 or extend a little bit too 1495 01:40:56,348 --> 01:41:01,108 so one hundred thousand per kilometer okay so I am 1496 01:41:01,168 --> 01:41:04,008 you know I I love the concept of art I 1497 01:41:04,008 --> 01:41:07,178 love art I'm a whole I'm a huge supporter of 1498 01:41:07,178 --> 01:41:10,628 art I'm I'm just curious about this blog do we 1499 01:41:10,628 --> 01:41:14,458 have any other won't like this with this type of 1500 01:41:14,838 --> 01:41:17,888 ... that surface or anything do we have any other 1501 01:41:17,888 --> 01:41:20,628 world with the coloring the staining do you have any 1502 01:41:20,628 --> 01:41:23,678 other one the city for us to know what this 1503 01:41:23,678 --> 01:41:26,138 will look like in another five years do we have 1504 01:41:26,138 --> 01:41:29,648 a benchmark 1505 01:41:29,648 --> 01:41:31,588 through the chair there are other noise walls in the 1506 01:41:31,588 --> 01:41:34,638 city that are done with the similar material ... navy 1507 01:41:34,638 --> 01:41:38,528 aged quite well ... I don't have an exact 1508 01:41:38,528 --> 01:41:40,558 location I can send you some of them after and 1509 01:41:40,558 --> 01:41:42,508 if you want to take a look but they've age 1510 01:41:42,508 --> 01:41:46,188 well and haven't deteriorated too much talking to the supplier 1511 01:41:46,308 --> 01:41:49,368 the color of the wall will fade over time so 1512 01:41:49,368 --> 01:41:51,638 the current light blue will lighten up a little bit 1513 01:41:51,948 --> 01:41:54,068 ... or other work that needs need to be touched 1514 01:41:54,068 --> 01:41:58,088 up typically in about fifteen year time period mmhm okay 1515 01:41:58,088 --> 01:42:01,928 seeing so can you and is it possible to go 1516 01:42:01,928 --> 01:42:05,438 to that live in the report that says ... the 1517 01:42:05,438 --> 01:42:08,998 breakdown of how people voted 1518 01:42:08,998 --> 01:42:11,068 through you Mr Mayor will bring up the report from 1519 01:42:11,068 --> 01:42:16,718 a terribly 1520 01:42:16,718 --> 01:42:19,528 is that is that a councillor yeah that's it that's 1521 01:42:19,528 --> 01:42:21,258 it so 1522 01:42:21,258 --> 01:42:23,298 you thank you Charlotte and so when you look at 1523 01:42:23,298 --> 01:42:27,868 the numbers right I have ... how many people 1524 01:42:27,868 --> 01:42:31,028 chose other options 1525 01:42:31,028 --> 01:42:34,168 I'm I see yes seven hundred and eight people who 1526 01:42:34,168 --> 01:42:37,178 did the survey did say that they like the I. 1527 01:42:37,178 --> 01:42:40,608 concept of art on the wall however I can't help 1528 01:42:40,608 --> 01:42:43,588 but want to acknowledge all of those who did not 1529 01:42:43,618 --> 01:42:47,818 actually choose art many of those people who did not 1530 01:42:47,818 --> 01:42:51,428 choose ... it comes up to one thousand five hundred 1531 01:42:51,428 --> 01:42:54,008 and ninety eight people 1532 01:42:54,008 --> 01:42:56,898 so that's one thousand five hundred ninety eight people who 1533 01:42:56,928 --> 01:43:00,558 actually did not choose to have art on the wall 1534 01:43:00,848 --> 01:43:03,558 for whatever reason you know they had different options there 1535 01:43:03,558 --> 01:43:07,418 was staining it but they did not actually choose to 1536 01:43:07,418 --> 01:43:09,088 have our 1537 01:43:09,088 --> 01:43:11,418 and I I wonder if that has a lot to 1538 01:43:11,418 --> 01:43:14,648 do with the residents who have been so frustrated with 1539 01:43:14,648 --> 01:43:17,918 the wall in the first place and nine I noticed 1540 01:43:17,918 --> 01:43:20,228 that many of my residents who had a lot of 1541 01:43:20,228 --> 01:43:23,688 trees cut down in order to put this wall up 1542 01:43:24,148 --> 01:43:27,008 they they're hurt by that the fact that we lost 1543 01:43:27,008 --> 01:43:32,338 so much of our ... tree canopy and ... have 1544 01:43:32,338 --> 01:43:34,628 been stuck with this well what I've heard from many 1545 01:43:34,628 --> 01:43:37,988 of my residents and I've been talking to them and 1546 01:43:38,228 --> 01:43:40,708 one resident who is an artist and he said I 1547 01:43:40,708 --> 01:43:44,678 love art and he said is I it is my 1548 01:43:44,678 --> 01:43:48,758 passion but I do not and I cannot see more 1549 01:43:48,758 --> 01:43:51,678 our money being spent on this wall that has been 1550 01:43:51,678 --> 01:43:55,988 such a frustrating point it's time to move on and 1551 01:43:55,988 --> 01:44:00,558 so I I do respect the art community and you 1552 01:44:00,558 --> 01:44:02,888 know I I like I said I love art I 1553 01:44:02,888 --> 01:44:07,798 also want to acknowledge that leases ... excellent presentation had 1554 01:44:07,798 --> 01:44:11,628 a number of different beautiful areas that had are on 1555 01:44:11,628 --> 01:44:16,838 different surfaces and so I really would like us to 1556 01:44:16,838 --> 01:44:20,178 respect that there are a lot of people one thousand 1557 01:44:20,328 --> 01:44:23,128 five hundred ninety eight people who did not choose are 1558 01:44:23,658 --> 01:44:25,678 and 1559 01:44:25,678 --> 01:44:27,988 ... if I could get the motion back on the 1560 01:44:27,988 --> 01:44:31,638 floor there 1561 01:44:31,638 --> 01:44:34,648 if it's possible I just have an amendment to it 1562 01:44:34,928 --> 01:44:36,408 ... 1563 01:44:36,408 --> 01:44:40,078 I would like to amend ... or stray cattle the 1564 01:44:40,078 --> 01:44:43,688 plan for the five kilometers from the wall and end 1565 01:44:43,908 --> 01:44:46,888 chain and make an amendment for the three hundred thousand 1566 01:44:46,888 --> 01:44:50,218 to be used for other areas in the city ... 1567 01:44:50,248 --> 01:44:52,698 I would really like for staff to come back and 1568 01:44:52,698 --> 01:44:55,548 let us know what other areas would be appropriate that 1569 01:44:55,548 --> 01:44:59,088 we use the ... of the 1570 01:44:59,088 --> 01:45:02,068 what is to find out what areas we can put 1571 01:45:02,068 --> 01:45:04,638 the art on but if we can strike out the 1572 01:45:04,638 --> 01:45:07,218 plan for the five hundred dollar noise wall I want 1573 01:45:07,218 --> 01:45:09,308 to respect the people are said do not spend any 1574 01:45:09,308 --> 01:45:13,718 more money on that wall and amend it for ... 1575 01:45:13,718 --> 01:45:16,068 the three hundred thousand to be used for other areas 1576 01:45:16,118 --> 01:45:19,318 for areas in the city that would be appropriate for 1577 01:45:19,708 --> 01:45:23,398 ... art 1578 01:45:23,398 --> 01:45:27,318 thank you so much 1579 01:45:27,318 --> 01:45:29,808 through the chair Kelso Williams I just want to clarify 1580 01:45:29,808 --> 01:45:32,858 actually the guy looked at the survey and the costs 1581 01:45:32,858 --> 01:45:35,208 were included in the survey 1582 01:45:35,208 --> 01:45:37,768 so we had the cost of approximately three hundred thousand 1583 01:45:37,768 --> 01:45:40,638 or three hundred fifty thousand to complete the work as 1584 01:45:40,638 --> 01:45:43,288 part of the survey well that's good thank you for 1585 01:45:43,288 --> 01:45:45,798 clarifying that it's really good that our residents to know 1586 01:45:45,798 --> 01:45:49,658 what they're getting into two and ... you know I 1587 01:45:49,658 --> 01:45:52,948 still think we there's one thousand five hundred ninety people 1588 01:45:52,948 --> 01:45:55,808 that still didn't use the ark and people are are 1589 01:45:55,808 --> 01:45:59,018 really wanting us to move on and ... but I 1590 01:45:59,018 --> 01:46:02,668 still want to see art in our community so I 1591 01:46:02,668 --> 01:46:06,138 I have an amendment for the three hundred thousand to 1592 01:46:06,138 --> 01:46:09,688 be used for ... art installations and other areas of 1593 01:46:09,828 --> 01:46:12,488 Brampton and that the plan for the five corners be 1594 01:46:12,488 --> 01:46:17,708 struck out the motion that's my man thank you 1595 01:46:17,708 --> 01:46:20,258 border I don't take that as the friendly what I 1596 01:46:20,258 --> 01:46:24,168 would take as a friendly is some 1597 01:46:24,168 --> 01:46:29,538 the that motion as is but ... but also adds 1598 01:46:29,828 --> 01:46:34,728 so and locations for urban landscape entries Public right potential 1599 01:46:34,728 --> 01:46:41,458 themes and timelines for implementation and that staff bring forward 1600 01:46:41,488 --> 01:46:47,678 other ideas ... related to public art installation in Brampton 1601 01:46:47,678 --> 01:46:51,768 so this is also in line with the delegations as 1602 01:46:51,768 --> 01:46:54,638 well as what ... John could use a lot had 1603 01:46:54,638 --> 01:46:59,178 presented and is advocating for and this is just the 1604 01:46:59,178 --> 01:47:02,228 beginning as an opportunity for the weather Santos you can 1605 01:47:02,518 --> 01:47:06,228 councillor Singh ... yeah the card is and buys me 1606 01:47:06,228 --> 01:47:10,648 restrained so I don't want us to debate ... whether 1607 01:47:10,648 --> 01:47:12,688 it's from they're not you can simply state that it's 1608 01:47:12,688 --> 01:47:14,878 not really through three missed Mr Mayor so just to 1609 01:47:14,878 --> 01:47:17,778 clarify this is a debate on the noise wall and 1610 01:47:17,778 --> 01:47:19,828 the use of public art on the noise wall not 1611 01:47:19,828 --> 01:47:21,968 for public art in other locations if there's a broader 1612 01:47:21,968 --> 01:47:24,778 discussion of public are generally that should be added as 1613 01:47:24,778 --> 01:47:26,588 a new business item and either this meeting with a 1614 01:47:26,588 --> 01:47:29,058 two thirds vote or a future meeting in terms of 1615 01:47:29,398 --> 01:47:31,288 volume social 1616 01:47:31,288 --> 01:47:33,918 sorry go ahead council but maybe in the middle of 1617 01:47:33,918 --> 01:47:38,198 the displaced internally in terms of cancer Williams proposed motion 1618 01:47:38,198 --> 01:47:40,708 the motion moved by councillor Santos is a referral motion 1619 01:47:40,708 --> 01:47:43,078 so we're in the middle of a referral debate I 1620 01:47:43,238 --> 01:47:47,948 I I am trying to understand councillor Williams amendment I 1621 01:47:47,948 --> 01:47:50,528 don't think it's germane to the referral because the referral 1622 01:47:50,708 --> 01:47:52,598 is not saying to spend the money it's saying for 1623 01:47:52,598 --> 01:47:54,578 staff to go back and look at something report back 1624 01:47:54,578 --> 01:47:57,038 to council has not made a decision on the money 1625 01:47:57,068 --> 01:48:00,128 so ... the motion from cancer Williams maybe you're a 1626 01:48:00,128 --> 01:48:05,108 proper motion introduced sure the referral not Kerry 1627 01:48:05,108 --> 01:48:07,528 okay thank you for the clarification so then I will 1628 01:48:07,528 --> 01:48:17,358 leave that motion as is that thank you very much 1629 01:48:17,358 --> 01:48:19,998 three three Mr Mayor at that done Jason did you 1630 01:48:19,998 --> 01:48:22,798 wanna yeah I just wanted to ask for the chair 1631 01:48:22,798 --> 01:48:27,248 ... just a reminder to councillors that ... recently ... 1632 01:48:27,278 --> 01:48:30,628 the approved of a public our strategy in that's in 1633 01:48:30,628 --> 01:48:34,628 development and going to come forward and it would consider 1634 01:48:34,628 --> 01:48:39,238 ... things like the other opportunities being referenced ... just 1635 01:48:39,238 --> 01:48:48,588 ... just as a reminder thank you 1636 01:48:48,588 --> 01:48:50,038 okay 1637 01:48:50,038 --> 01:48:53,038 so next up then is to the discounts will install 1638 01:48:53,038 --> 01:48:55,518 the floor cancel Williams 1639 01:48:55,518 --> 01:48:59,698 I finish thank you I've just see that my amendment 1640 01:48:59,728 --> 01:49:02,968 is strike out it would be a new motion in 1641 01:49:02,968 --> 01:49:07,188 consideration should be are the motion outside correct so it's 1642 01:49:07,858 --> 01:49:11,028 it's another motion on the floor the card could please 1643 01:49:11,028 --> 01:49:14,708 clarify through you Mr Mayor if the referral motion does 1644 01:49:14,708 --> 01:49:17,868 not Kerry then it could be a motion that's introduced 1645 01:49:17,868 --> 01:49:20,228 in regards to the report ... if the refer a 1646 01:49:20,228 --> 01:49:23,428 motion does Kerry than ... that motion is is ... 1647 01:49:23,428 --> 01:49:26,448 the matters dealt with it's been referred and ... that 1648 01:49:26,448 --> 01:49:29,648 motion is is redundant 1649 01:49:29,648 --> 01:49:33,388 okay ... because they do want to see us explore 1650 01:49:33,388 --> 01:49:37,148 our have that budget allocation of that amount would be 1651 01:49:37,628 --> 01:49:42,258 used for public art so ... I guess we'll I 1652 01:49:42,298 --> 01:49:46,748 would have to re introduce that afterwards or ... 1653 01:49:46,748 --> 01:49:50,988 unless it was also a referral referral back to staff 1654 01:49:50,988 --> 01:49:54,428 ... so that we can identify other areas for our 1655 01:49:54,428 --> 01:50:04,048 installation ... with the budget at our location 1656 01:50:04,048 --> 01:50:05,488 through 3 1657 01:50:05,488 --> 01:50:08,688 three and why I would suggest that ... depending on 1658 01:50:08,688 --> 01:50:10,928 the outcome of the refer a motion ... the refer 1659 01:50:10,928 --> 01:50:13,668 a motion is referring the entire matter ... which include 1660 01:50:13,668 --> 01:50:16,528 staff reference that there is within the budget for this 1661 01:50:16,528 --> 01:50:19,618 noise wall three hundred thousand dollars so council has not 1662 01:50:19,618 --> 01:50:22,138 made a decision on what to do with that so 1663 01:50:22,138 --> 01:50:24,198 if the matter was referred back to staff for further 1664 01:50:24,198 --> 01:50:26,868 consideration presumably that'll be one of the matter is that 1665 01:50:26,868 --> 01:50:28,968 would be considered when the report comes back and council 1666 01:50:28,968 --> 01:50:32,138 makes a decision at that time I see okay I 1667 01:50:32,138 --> 01:50:35,948 will yield and just sat let others ... speak their 1668 01:50:36,478 --> 01:50:43,588 their opinions thank you very much councillor question 1669 01:50:43,588 --> 01:50:46,238 thank you Mr Mayor so I'll try and be brief 1670 01:50:46,238 --> 01:50:48,798 because I think everybody's on this and I have struggled 1671 01:50:48,798 --> 01:50:50,968 with ... with this one if we can go back 1672 01:50:50,968 --> 01:50:54,248 to the survey and councillor Willhans Williams brought up a 1673 01:50:54,248 --> 01:50:57,228 good point ... and that's one way to look at 1674 01:50:57,228 --> 01:51:00,518 the survey survey the other way to look at the 1675 01:51:00,518 --> 01:51:04,298 survey is there was any majority of people that want 1676 01:51:04,298 --> 01:51:07,818 to change as opposed to leaving the noise wall the 1677 01:51:07,818 --> 01:51:10,698 way it is so and that's the two ways that 1678 01:51:10,698 --> 01:51:14,728 I kind of looked at practice survey unfortunately I think 1679 01:51:14,728 --> 01:51:18,358 and I've heard from residents that they felt the survey 1680 01:51:18,358 --> 01:51:22,808 was a little bit confusing ... providing too many choices 1681 01:51:22,808 --> 01:51:25,518 and I think we we do this to ourselves in 1682 01:51:25,548 --> 01:51:27,958 and I think we should really look at the way 1683 01:51:27,958 --> 01:51:31,028 with that we that we put surveys ... to to 1684 01:51:31,028 --> 01:51:34,398 residents they may there needs to be some kind of 1685 01:51:34,398 --> 01:51:37,518 simplicity so the surveys that we put out so that 1686 01:51:37,518 --> 01:51:40,228 there isn't any questions on 1687 01:51:40,228 --> 01:51:42,908 which way it's going 1688 01:51:42,908 --> 01:51:47,218 I was also little ... disturbed by the first delegations 1689 01:51:47,248 --> 01:51:52,768 our criticism of our of council's lack of funding for 1690 01:51:52,898 --> 01:51:56,628 the arts and although there is a little bit of 1691 01:51:56,628 --> 01:52:01,078 truth to to those comments ... we also provide him 1692 01:52:01,108 --> 01:52:04,168 and his organization I believe staff can correct me if 1693 01:52:04,168 --> 01:52:08,328 I'm wrong a little over five hundred thousand dollars is 1694 01:52:08,328 --> 01:52:18,498 that correct 1695 01:52:19,298 --> 01:52:21,368 I believe it was three our little over three hundred 1696 01:52:21,368 --> 01:52:24,478 thousand last year in the budget it's five hundred thousand 1697 01:52:24,478 --> 01:52:30,078 this year 1698 01:52:30,078 --> 01:52:33,068 through the chair if you're referring to that the OP 1699 01:52:33,098 --> 01:52:36,608 a new operating budget for the arts agency yes three 1700 01:52:36,608 --> 01:52:41,398 seventy two and twenty twenty one and then council approved 1701 01:52:41,398 --> 01:52:45,608 an increase in twenty twenty two for just over five 1702 01:52:45,608 --> 01:52:49,188 hundred thousand dollars for annual operating budget so I think 1703 01:52:49,508 --> 01:52:52,318 it's unfortunate that nobody has recognize the fact that you 1704 01:52:52,318 --> 01:52:55,978 know we have ... we have almost doubled the the 1705 01:52:55,978 --> 01:52:58,688 funding going into the arts but I'm I'm I could 1706 01:52:58,688 --> 01:53:01,868 be the first one to say that it's still not 1707 01:53:01,868 --> 01:53:05,478 enough in ten and I'll say that but the the 1708 01:53:05,478 --> 01:53:07,978 fact is that we went from a little over three 1709 01:53:07,978 --> 01:53:11,218 thousand to five hundred thousand dollars in the year so 1710 01:53:11,218 --> 01:53:14,218 I think that this council has clearly sent arts is 1711 01:53:14,218 --> 01:53:17,068 important to us ... we recognize that we put a 1712 01:53:17,068 --> 01:53:20,358 lot of money into other activities in the city of 1713 01:53:20,358 --> 01:53:24,848 Brampton he sports ... but art is is a priority 1714 01:53:24,848 --> 01:53:28,848 and you know councillor Santos so huge ... ... proponent 1715 01:53:28,848 --> 01:53:31,968 notes of the arts and are I think other councillors 1716 01:53:31,968 --> 01:53:35,228 have have always stated that ... they enjoy our whether 1717 01:53:35,228 --> 01:53:37,958 their artistic or not I stated that I'm not artistic 1718 01:53:38,128 --> 01:53:41,808 at all but yet I enjoy the arts ... and 1719 01:53:41,808 --> 01:53:44,108 I think that we there are other ways that we 1720 01:53:44,108 --> 01:53:47,368 should be looking at ... things like this if we're 1721 01:53:47,368 --> 01:53:50,688 gonna take art seriously in the city of Brampton then 1722 01:53:50,718 --> 01:53:53,498 we should look at it like we're like we're building 1723 01:53:53,498 --> 01:53:58,798 an asset we should go through the phases of 1724 01:53:58,798 --> 01:54:01,168 what we do here in the city of Brampton design 1725 01:54:01,168 --> 01:54:05,638 phase ... at the construction phase that in the consultation 1726 01:54:05,638 --> 01:54:10,218 phase and all those in between we don't expect anybody 1727 01:54:10,748 --> 01:54:13,148 in the arts community to do anything for free we 1728 01:54:13,148 --> 01:54:18,358 don't expect anybody to do anything ... for free there 1729 01:54:18,358 --> 01:54:21,678 is ... ... we have we have a lot of 1730 01:54:21,678 --> 01:54:24,788 volunteers that that do some great work in the city 1731 01:54:24,788 --> 01:54:28,168 of Brampton but this is something that we need to 1732 01:54:28,168 --> 01:54:31,638 start looking at ... Lake we look at everything else 1733 01:54:31,638 --> 01:54:35,128 in the city of Brampton and ... so I I 1734 01:54:35,308 --> 01:54:38,378 I support the referral ... 1735 01:54:38,378 --> 01:54:43,398 should be able to come back and provide an opportunity 1736 01:54:43,398 --> 01:54:47,588 for people to to look at some kind of design 1737 01:54:48,158 --> 01:54:52,478 ... in in what we're what we're trying to essentially 1738 01:54:52,478 --> 01:54:55,848 do and let me say again because I've said it 1739 01:54:55,848 --> 01:54:59,438 before I like the wall I've always liked the wall 1740 01:54:59,848 --> 01:55:01,668 I like the feeling that it gives me when I'm 1741 01:55:01,668 --> 01:55:05,908 driving the Carmen affected it was supposed to supposed to 1742 01:55:05,908 --> 01:55:09,368 give motorists I get that when I'm driving the wall 1743 01:55:09,868 --> 01:55:13,688 but I also know that it's not complete and it 1744 01:55:13,688 --> 01:55:16,968 hasn't been completed as to yeah there is still landscaping 1745 01:55:16,968 --> 01:55:22,018 trees and potential for public art ... is one of 1746 01:55:22,018 --> 01:55:26,818 those other opportunities that can make this world better than 1747 01:55:26,998 --> 01:55:31,478 what I think it it is today it's an unfinished 1748 01:55:31,478 --> 01:55:34,828 product so for anybody looking at this wall now to 1749 01:55:34,828 --> 01:55:37,638 say oh well that's that's a good it's not dark 1750 01:55:37,948 --> 01:55:41,048 it's not complete and it's unfortunate that it's not completely 1751 01:55:41,048 --> 01:55:46,328 we're having this debate with an unfinished product but 1752 01:55:46,328 --> 01:55:47,918 it is what it is and that's what we're here 1753 01:55:47,918 --> 01:55:52,218 for so I think that this referral clearly sets out 1754 01:55:52,538 --> 01:55:56,838 what this is it provides opportunity for members of council 1755 01:55:56,838 --> 01:56:01,328 to see what this ... what the finished product could 1756 01:56:01,328 --> 01:56:05,628 look like and ... I know there's some there's some 1757 01:56:05,628 --> 01:56:10,448 funding opportunities ... there are also funding opportunities and other 1758 01:56:10,448 --> 01:56:14,168 levels of government that we could potentially be tapping into 1759 01:56:14,168 --> 01:56:17,918 as well for this if we're going to start taking 1760 01:56:18,198 --> 01:56:21,028 art seriously in the city of Brampton and I think 1761 01:56:21,028 --> 01:56:23,798 that's that's kind of a step in that direction to 1762 01:56:23,798 --> 01:56:29,578 our to bring something that like so many passionate artists 1763 01:56:29,578 --> 01:56:33,828 stated here today ... that could be so thank you 1764 01:56:33,828 --> 01:56:36,608 Mr Mayor I'm happy to support this referral if you 1765 01:56:36,608 --> 01:56:40,458 don't have a second ... all seconded ... and I 1766 01:56:40,458 --> 01:56:44,508 look forward to seeing this come back in and what 1767 01:56:44,508 --> 01:56:48,648 this potentially could look like in its complete form okay 1768 01:56:48,648 --> 01:56:52,768 leave a Jason Tammy one respond to the 1769 01:56:52,768 --> 01:56:56,508 the experience ... the chair councillor just want to ... 1770 01:56:56,788 --> 01:56:59,968 with respect to the the designs references I kind of 1771 01:56:59,968 --> 01:57:02,808 understand what you're getting at seeing ... to see see 1772 01:57:02,808 --> 01:57:06,098 what something would look like before we proceed ... just 1773 01:57:06,098 --> 01:57:09,618 wanted to kind of explain with that the fire ... 1774 01:57:09,618 --> 01:57:12,958 the fire doors for instance we had stops at third 1775 01:57:12,958 --> 01:57:17,618 party assisting coordinating the local artist and coordinating that work 1776 01:57:18,048 --> 01:57:20,408 and so I would you would just note that it 1777 01:57:20,408 --> 01:57:25,548 will be difficult to come back ... without ... six 1778 01:57:25,578 --> 01:57:28,418 some expenditure of funds and so I would suggest for 1779 01:57:28,448 --> 01:57:31,628 perhaps a referral for a design concept to be developed 1780 01:57:31,628 --> 01:57:34,678 in back to council for consideration using some of that 1781 01:57:34,678 --> 01:57:38,758 three hundred K. ... because we'll have to 1782 01:57:38,758 --> 01:57:41,568 consult with an artist and get some designs developed it's 1783 01:57:41,568 --> 01:57:44,308 that's not done in house ... and so there would 1784 01:57:44,308 --> 01:57:48,208 be some expense to that in advance of coming back 1785 01:57:48,208 --> 01:57:49,718 and I just want to be mindful of that I 1786 01:57:49,718 --> 01:57:51,778 don't have an exact number right now but if it 1787 01:57:51,778 --> 01:57:54,348 was part of that three hundred we could get that 1788 01:57:54,348 --> 01:57:55,898 done 1789 01:57:55,898 --> 01:57:58,908 thank you Jason and and that's exactly what I'm talking 1790 01:57:58,908 --> 01:58:01,868 about there's we don't ask anybody else to do anything 1791 01:58:01,868 --> 01:58:04,898 for free we don't ask consultants to consult for free 1792 01:58:04,898 --> 01:58:07,498 we don't have to diners to design for free so 1793 01:58:07,498 --> 01:58:10,098 if there needs to be some funding going to going 1794 01:58:10,098 --> 01:58:13,518 towards a design of this to work for us to 1795 01:58:13,518 --> 01:58:16,838 be able to look at ... the opportunities then yes 1796 01:58:16,868 --> 01:58:21,648 I support that but keep in mind we also provide 1797 01:58:21,858 --> 01:58:24,778 over five hundred thousand dollars to a seat at that 1798 01:58:24,778 --> 01:58:28,638 could play a role in this as well 1799 01:58:28,638 --> 01:58:31,648 so I'm sure you can you know the worker magic 1800 01:58:31,648 --> 01:58:34,778 and and without with the cedar and and some of 1801 01:58:34,778 --> 01:58:39,488 the funds that are currently at your disposal come back 1802 01:58:39,488 --> 01:58:41,638 with some kind of design 1803 01:58:41,638 --> 01:58:45,658 the council can get behind thank you Mr 1804 01:58:45,658 --> 01:58:49,498 somebody put some of Europe's 1805 01:58:49,498 --> 01:58:52,638 thank you Mr Mayor ... I will say that I 1806 01:58:52,638 --> 01:58:56,058 I agreed with with all the sentiments from cancer plushie 1807 01:58:56,058 --> 01:58:58,988 and you didn't agree to look away so ... I 1808 01:58:58,988 --> 01:59:02,138 got to recognize that was really wild hello ... the 1809 01:59:02,138 --> 01:59:05,898 only thing I don't see it reflected in the motion 1810 01:59:06,158 --> 01:59:10,108 in the referral so ... I'm going to yield ... 1811 01:59:10,138 --> 01:59:14,418 to ... I guess the next speaker ... and ... 1812 01:59:14,418 --> 01:59:17,838 here my colleagues because ... in terms of you know 1813 01:59:17,838 --> 01:59:20,328 what we're looking out there there's a lot of conversations 1814 01:59:20,328 --> 01:59:23,588 on this and and and and just in principle on 1815 01:59:23,588 --> 01:59:25,848 the delegations and thank you to all the delegations ... 1816 01:59:25,848 --> 01:59:28,898 I know Lisa Stokes was very passionate about it she 1817 01:59:28,898 --> 01:59:32,118 presented a a great video ... and and different ... 1818 01:59:32,118 --> 01:59:36,718 ideas and and also ... ... John certainly is ... 1819 01:59:36,778 --> 01:59:39,288 fuller of our right to community and ... have the 1820 01:59:39,288 --> 01:59:42,208 option to speak with the mollusca full days regarding other 1821 01:59:42,208 --> 01:59:45,238 beautification across the city the only thing I would say 1822 01:59:45,238 --> 01:59:48,558 not to jump away from this specific subject we talk 1823 01:59:48,558 --> 01:59:51,368 about public art you know certainly when we think of 1824 01:59:51,438 --> 01:59:53,778 start connecting the dots of all our decisions that we 1825 01:59:53,778 --> 01:59:58,178 make regarding budget allocations ... regarding ... you know expenses 1826 01:59:58,178 --> 02:00:00,718 when we look at what we've done in the budget 1827 02:00:00,868 --> 02:00:03,948 at the same time ... we want new you know 1828 02:00:03,948 --> 02:00:06,778 investing public garden in specifically in these type of projects 1829 02:00:07,128 --> 02:00:09,418 ... you know I I think that you know we'd 1830 02:00:09,418 --> 02:00:12,448 be naive to suggest that some of our our decisions 1831 02:00:12,448 --> 02:00:15,758 that don't come to bite us after we need you 1832 02:00:15,758 --> 02:00:17,818 know comes to these all products we don't have a 1833 02:00:18,028 --> 02:00:20,528 an empty sort of war chest or we can spend 1834 02:00:20,528 --> 02:00:22,378 all the money we want so we can you know 1835 02:00:22,378 --> 02:00:25,158 do one thing and and make these decisions because they're 1836 02:00:25,158 --> 02:00:28,738 all interconnected so when we allow salary increases I know 1837 02:00:28,738 --> 02:00:31,818 we're going to discuss that later when we lost salary 1838 02:00:31,818 --> 02:00:34,748 increases to go out of whack or when we allow 1839 02:00:34,748 --> 02:00:37,198 certain budget decisions and I know I'm going up intention 1840 02:00:37,198 --> 02:00:39,548 of going up the subject so I will refrain from 1841 02:00:39,548 --> 02:00:42,738 there these have these type of impacts in in specifically 1842 02:00:42,738 --> 02:00:47,118 when we dealt with ... our budget but I will 1843 02:00:47,288 --> 02:00:48,878 ... ... certainly ... 1844 02:00:48,878 --> 02:00:51,358 ... ... listen to my colleagues but I I do 1845 02:00:51,358 --> 02:00:54,278 think the beautification of the city is a must so 1846 02:00:54,278 --> 02:00:57,658 I don't like to limit the conversation to this wall 1847 02:00:57,808 --> 02:01:01,078 ... and ... because I see all of us across 1848 02:01:01,078 --> 02:01:03,618 the city and all our wards ... we do ... 1849 02:01:03,658 --> 02:01:06,748 have been for our capital that we would like to 1850 02:01:06,778 --> 02:01:10,718 provide a public art ... ... and ... really ... 1851 02:01:11,208 --> 02:01:14,418 as the comments of the member tell the story ... 1852 02:01:14,418 --> 02:01:17,328 and maybe tell the story of those specific words so 1853 02:01:17,478 --> 02:01:20,948 ... I will yield ... and a lot of other 1854 02:01:20,948 --> 02:01:26,648 speakers to come on thank you very much 1855 02:01:26,648 --> 02:01:36,628 okay next up is councillor Singh 1856 02:01:36,628 --> 02:01:38,878 councillor Singh 1857 02:01:38,878 --> 02:01:42,468 thank you and ... you know it's been all robots 1858 02:01:42,468 --> 02:01:45,968 the conversation and ... you know initially ... you know 1859 02:01:45,968 --> 02:01:50,038 I did also share some concerns but ... you know 1860 02:01:50,038 --> 02:01:52,768 having spoken to some of the arts members and and 1861 02:01:52,768 --> 02:01:56,578 people from the arts community ... what I found with 1862 02:01:56,578 --> 02:02:00,578 this initiative which I appreciated ... I find it's very 1863 02:02:00,608 --> 02:02:03,998 artist driven so what I'm a little bit nervous about 1864 02:02:04,438 --> 02:02:07,758 ... changing ... the vision or the or the scope 1865 02:02:07,758 --> 02:02:11,018 of ... you know looking at other areas when I've 1866 02:02:11,018 --> 02:02:13,708 had a lot of conversation and and they pertain to 1867 02:02:13,738 --> 02:02:16,178 beautifying the noise wall you can part of the tool 1868 02:02:16,258 --> 02:02:20,448 ... for that ... beautification ... and I appreciate ... 1869 02:02:20,478 --> 02:02:23,648 you know the cross section of artists with some key 1870 02:02:23,648 --> 02:02:29,638 young artists older older artists local artists ... different disciplines 1871 02:02:29,668 --> 02:02:33,318 everybody is ... from arts community seems to be ... 1872 02:02:33,318 --> 02:02:38,178 back to this initiative so ... that's you know Gwyneth 1873 02:02:38,178 --> 02:02:41,058 Park Street driven driven by the community I think ... 1874 02:02:41,188 --> 02:02:44,638 with support to be a little bit ... sensitive ... 1875 02:02:44,638 --> 02:02:48,068 to ... what what the committee is trying to accomplish 1876 02:02:48,468 --> 02:02:52,508 ... what I also appreciate about ... this motion in 1877 02:02:52,508 --> 02:02:56,178 particular ... is that ... there seems to be some 1878 02:02:56,178 --> 02:03:04,308 synergies between ... ... this a referral and also ... 1879 02:03:04,888 --> 02:03:08,308 the report coming back from ... Mike parks that urban 1880 02:03:08,308 --> 02:03:13,558 landscape and and if there's opportunities especially ... for cost 1881 02:03:13,558 --> 02:03:16,708 savings in that notes then ... Jeez ... sharing of 1882 02:03:16,708 --> 02:03:20,148 staff resources ... on top of that we know ... 1883 02:03:20,148 --> 02:03:23,608 exceed ... at has a has a three staff I 1884 02:03:23,608 --> 02:03:26,468 believe at this point ... I think we can come 1885 02:03:26,468 --> 02:03:29,048 up with a cost effective way to get this done 1886 02:03:29,398 --> 02:03:32,868 ... I think by stopping in now ... what eliminate 1887 02:03:32,868 --> 02:03:35,798 that possibility but I think it because all these things 1888 02:03:35,798 --> 02:03:38,358 are lining up with the urban landscape from Mike parks 1889 02:03:38,358 --> 02:03:38,488 by 1890 02:03:38,488 --> 02:03:40,818 image ... we have to see that we have the 1891 02:03:40,818 --> 02:03:43,778 artistic gauge ... I think we got a road map 1892 02:03:44,088 --> 02:03:47,028 that will find its ... cost effective and if it's 1893 02:03:47,028 --> 02:03:48,558 not when I come back and we can make the 1894 02:03:48,558 --> 02:03:52,338 decision accordingly but ... I think to stop a referral 1895 02:03:52,338 --> 02:03:56,088 motion at this point is ... premature ... because there's 1896 02:03:56,088 --> 02:03:58,998 so many aspects that are coming together ... that we 1897 02:03:58,998 --> 02:04:02,478 can probably get this done ... so I would say 1898 02:04:02,478 --> 02:04:05,438 let's get staff to go back ... you know ... 1899 02:04:05,438 --> 02:04:08,518 you know ... come up with the road map ... 1900 02:04:08,628 --> 02:04:12,028 we have all these things happening and and ... silos 1901 02:04:12,028 --> 02:04:14,968 bring it all together and ... you know let's get 1902 02:04:14,968 --> 02:04:18,258 the landscaping aligned with the public art and and ... 1903 02:04:18,518 --> 02:04:20,758 you know who's doing a great job at death I 1904 02:04:20,758 --> 02:04:24,388 think the opportunity is now and ... best way referring 1905 02:04:24,548 --> 02:04:33,548 and I'll be supporting this referral thank you 1906 02:04:33,548 --> 02:04:38,418 okay next up is councillor Willhans 1907 02:04:38,418 --> 02:04:42,938 thank you through you ... Mr Mayor ... I just 1908 02:04:42,938 --> 02:04:44,738 wanna go on record I'm not a big fan of 1909 02:04:44,738 --> 02:04:47,968 painting that wall but I'm certainly not against public art 1910 02:04:48,418 --> 02:04:50,398 of the deal was one thing that didn't work and 1911 02:04:50,858 --> 02:04:53,118 I know that my sparks group in other councils have 1912 02:04:53,118 --> 02:04:55,818 alluded to this but ... you know we'll be looking 1913 02:04:55,818 --> 02:04:59,698 at the different types of plantings landscaping along there but 1914 02:04:59,998 --> 02:05:02,078 I want to make sure that ... it's just refer 1915 02:05:02,078 --> 02:05:04,198 let's go back when it comes to the urban landscaping 1916 02:05:04,198 --> 02:05:06,868 we're looking at planting along the wall not on the 1917 02:05:06,868 --> 02:05:09,448 corners not in front with trees and those around all 1918 02:05:09,448 --> 02:05:11,618 important to the beautify I think we're doubling up the 1919 02:05:11,618 --> 02:05:13,528 amount of trees along what was Park which is when 1920 02:05:13,528 --> 02:05:16,738 I widening it now and I would also look at 1921 02:05:16,908 --> 02:05:20,088 a collaboration effort between the arm our public schools are 1922 02:05:20,088 --> 02:05:23,098 Catholic schools the school boards in general as well as 1923 02:05:23,098 --> 02:05:26,928 the TRCA and CVC the CVC is affected by this 1924 02:05:26,928 --> 02:05:29,768 water not but ... we get those groups involved as 1925 02:05:29,768 --> 02:05:32,348 well with the students to look at him to work 1926 02:05:32,348 --> 02:05:35,048 with our city the plan along that wall we've got 1927 02:05:35,078 --> 02:05:37,388 a good examples I don't want to I don't have 1928 02:05:37,388 --> 02:05:39,138 them here with me but I got examples of other 1929 02:05:39,138 --> 02:05:42,588 cities in Canada in North America and Europe 1930 02:05:42,588 --> 02:05:47,798 I did plantings Virginia creeper Austin ivy English ivy different 1931 02:05:47,798 --> 02:05:50,188 types of ... 1932 02:05:50,188 --> 02:05:52,358 plants that grow someone's the average some some of the 1933 02:05:52,358 --> 02:05:54,288 state like you wanted this will stay green all winter 1934 02:05:54,288 --> 02:05:56,708 so I want us to explore that aspect of it 1935 02:05:56,708 --> 02:05:59,798 as well because to plan for junior creeper Boston ivy 1936 02:05:59,798 --> 02:06:02,268 along that wall that would feel stretch of wall climber 1937 02:06:02,268 --> 02:06:04,778 along in less than five years ... I've got it 1938 02:06:04,778 --> 02:06:06,998 on my own house it gives a beautiful call fall 1939 02:06:06,998 --> 02:06:10,558 color it's it's it's gorgeous and can you imagine if 1940 02:06:10,558 --> 02:06:12,798 it's a clever everyone effort with our schools can you 1941 02:06:12,798 --> 02:06:16,378 imagine an elementary school student or maybe perhaps a grade 1942 02:06:16,378 --> 02:06:19,958 twelve students interested in fundamental studies looking at that wall 1943 02:06:19,958 --> 02:06:21,938 in four years time saying I was part of that 1944 02:06:22,298 --> 02:06:24,458 I was part of that wall beautifying that wall with 1945 02:06:24,458 --> 02:06:27,588 green use natural landscaping I'm not against public art I 1946 02:06:27,588 --> 02:06:29,788 just don't think public arts a good spot along a 1947 02:06:30,148 --> 02:06:32,178 noise wall like that 1948 02:06:32,178 --> 02:06:36,188 ... with public art is you have one person's interpretation 1949 02:06:36,188 --> 02:06:38,828 of it another person doesn't like that public art well 1950 02:06:38,828 --> 02:06:40,928 then you've got more complaints lately if they if you 1951 02:06:40,928 --> 02:06:43,338 just left the wall along but I do like the 1952 02:06:43,338 --> 02:06:47,028 idea of public garden certain spaces I'm not control control 1953 02:06:47,028 --> 02:06:50,438 probably longer than anybody here ... he's a good artist 1954 02:06:50,788 --> 02:06:53,738 he is passionate about the art hi Lisa Stokes does 1955 02:06:53,738 --> 02:06:56,118 a great job of providing safe examples of all of 1956 02:06:56,118 --> 02:06:59,228 the community the first presentation was was rather I rather 1957 02:06:59,228 --> 02:07:01,638 enjoyed it because it was the Rick Mercer report on 1958 02:07:01,638 --> 02:07:06,598 regular services rental I appreciate the environment the presentation from 1959 02:07:06,628 --> 02:07:09,858 from the delegates I appreciate that as well I appreciate 1960 02:07:09,858 --> 02:07:13,328 counsel's Santos the need for public art but I think 1961 02:07:13,328 --> 02:07:16,748 maybe ... at this time I mean I don't hate 1962 02:07:16,748 --> 02:07:18,648 before also to deal with things but I think maybe 1963 02:07:18,648 --> 02:07:21,538 perhaps I will support the referral but I want staff 1964 02:07:21,538 --> 02:07:25,328 to understand that part of that urban landscaping isn't just 1965 02:07:25,328 --> 02:07:29,348 our typical urban landscaping is looking outside the box and 1966 02:07:29,348 --> 02:07:31,938 I challenge anybody to challenge me on it because I 1967 02:07:31,938 --> 02:07:34,898 think I'm a little bit of a gardener Mr Mayor 1968 02:07:34,898 --> 02:07:37,938 sense so let's work together so you can beautify that 1969 02:07:37,938 --> 02:07:40,398 stretch so I thought my comments and thank you very 1970 02:07:40,398 --> 02:07:43,048 much Mr 1971 02:07:43,048 --> 02:07:45,238 okay thank you councillor Willhans next up is kind of 1972 02:07:45,238 --> 02:07:46,848 service on the 1973 02:07:46,848 --> 02:07:49,098 thank you very much Marianne I want to first and 1974 02:07:49,098 --> 02:07:53,628 foremost thank god the delegations who came forward today to 1975 02:07:53,628 --> 02:07:57,488 present us with their ask in their vision for ... 1976 02:07:57,488 --> 02:08:01,118 what is possible with respect to a place like this 1977 02:08:01,118 --> 02:08:06,678 with the wall ... I ... really appreciate it very 1978 02:08:06,678 --> 02:08:12,288 concise and well prepared statements and ... the encouragement that 1979 02:08:12,288 --> 02:08:16,478 the delegates have provided to council today and this discussion 1980 02:08:16,478 --> 02:08:20,128 has been ... I think very productive ... not just 1981 02:08:20,128 --> 02:08:24,778 in respect to the Williams parkway wall ... but also 1982 02:08:24,778 --> 02:08:27,248 to what it is that we would like to see 1983 02:08:27,488 --> 02:08:29,698 in other places across the city I know when my 1984 02:08:29,698 --> 02:08:34,608 discussions with public works staff they are listening to this 1985 02:08:34,608 --> 02:08:39,158 conversation very carefully and ... I know that they're getting 1986 02:08:39,158 --> 02:08:43,658 everyone's ideas and looking to ... meet all of our 1987 02:08:43,658 --> 02:08:48,548 expectations and ... there are so many opportunities across the 1988 02:08:48,548 --> 02:08:53,058 city of Brampton where public arts can enhance the public 1989 02:08:53,058 --> 02:08:57,788 realm and ... beautify the city and provide a way 1990 02:08:57,788 --> 02:09:00,598 for us to ... 1991 02:09:00,598 --> 02:09:05,758 make expression through public art a real assets 1992 02:09:05,758 --> 02:09:08,088 for the city of Brampton and for the enjoyment of 1993 02:09:08,088 --> 02:09:12,818 the residents are here ... great ideas by all members 1994 02:09:12,818 --> 02:09:17,398 of council you know as combining Public cards ... with 1995 02:09:17,398 --> 02:09:20,708 the planting of ... appropriate trees and shrubs I I 1996 02:09:20,708 --> 02:09:24,218 think is absolutely ... 1997 02:09:24,218 --> 02:09:28,028 on points it's it's it's it can be so beautiful 1998 02:09:28,028 --> 02:09:32,348 and I just want to share with ... members of 1999 02:09:32,348 --> 02:09:35,348 the public and members of council today ... my own 2000 02:09:35,348 --> 02:09:38,948 personal experience living in downtown Brampton 2001 02:09:38,948 --> 02:09:42,778 in very close proximity to gauge Park 2002 02:09:42,778 --> 02:09:48,268 where ... throughout the holiday season and this winter we 2003 02:09:48,268 --> 02:09:53,218 have had a very beautiful ... winter lights display that 2004 02:09:53,218 --> 02:09:56,458 has been ongoing and it's up every night 2005 02:09:56,458 --> 02:10:01,208 and let me tell you about the crowds of people 2006 02:10:01,878 --> 02:10:07,288 coming to downtown nightly to experience 2007 02:10:07,288 --> 02:10:11,178 winter lights which is essentially a display of public art 2008 02:10:11,738 --> 02:10:17,948 and enjoy the space take photos Miller banks and and 2009 02:10:17,948 --> 02:10:21,828 just in general enjoy living in Brampton as as I 2010 02:10:21,828 --> 02:10:26,508 like to say and so ... I want to support 2011 02:10:26,508 --> 02:10:30,638 the referral ... and I think that some 2012 02:10:30,638 --> 02:10:35,858 it's important that we realize that you know this council 2013 02:10:36,458 --> 02:10:38,948 in this term of council both cancer centers and I 2014 02:10:38,948 --> 02:10:42,178 it's a local area councillors we had many conversations with 2015 02:10:42,178 --> 02:10:46,018 staff immediately after taking office and it was made very 2016 02:10:46,018 --> 02:10:49,788 clear to us that we could not 2017 02:10:49,788 --> 02:10:54,988 reverse ... the the construction of the wall as as 2018 02:10:54,988 --> 02:10:58,658 had been planned by staff and so I think that 2019 02:10:58,988 --> 02:11:01,788 we are ... if I could won't expression for Mayor 2020 02:11:01,788 --> 02:11:05,348 Brown trying to make lemonade out of lemons ... but 2021 02:11:05,378 --> 02:11:07,898 there is an incredible opportunity and this can truly be 2022 02:11:07,898 --> 02:11:11,988 fantastic and ... we don't once ... Williams parkway the 2023 02:11:11,988 --> 02:11:16,498 blue wall to be the example of ... of what 2024 02:11:16,498 --> 02:11:19,868 it is that we do two ... junctures oldest points 2025 02:11:20,208 --> 02:11:23,588 that we want this to be ... another way that 2026 02:11:23,588 --> 02:11:27,318 we demonstrate what is best and how we are supporting 2027 02:11:27,738 --> 02:11:30,978 the arts community here in the city of Brampton people 2028 02:11:31,008 --> 02:11:34,868 will love it and I think that if we take 2029 02:11:34,868 --> 02:11:38,748 this as one example and duplicated across other parts of 2030 02:11:38,748 --> 02:11:42,468 the city as we have on the Franceschini bridge as 2031 02:11:42,468 --> 02:11:46,108 we have in other ways ... I think that ... 2032 02:11:46,718 --> 02:11:49,338 we can demonstrate as a council that we are behind 2033 02:11:49,338 --> 02:11:52,508 the public art at the arts community and that's how 2034 02:11:52,508 --> 02:11:55,078 we are very interested in beautifying the city so I'll 2035 02:11:55,078 --> 02:11:58,118 just leave it at that and say that ... public 2036 02:11:58,118 --> 02:12:02,088 works is ready to to make this happen and ... 2037 02:12:02,118 --> 02:12:04,358 there are so many opportunities and I think we should 2038 02:12:04,358 --> 02:12:09,378 support thank you 2039 02:12:09,378 --> 02:12:11,238 councillor 2040 02:12:11,238 --> 02:12:13,998 hi Bowman 2041 02:12:13,998 --> 02:12:16,768 thank you very much through you Mr chair ... I 2042 02:12:16,768 --> 02:12:21,698 fully agree with the art ... however in saying I 2043 02:12:21,698 --> 02:12:24,188 fully agree with the art ... 2044 02:12:24,188 --> 02:12:27,388 maybe maybe ... I'm a little bit jealous that ... 2045 02:12:27,418 --> 02:12:29,328 all the art is going to be along this one 2046 02:12:29,328 --> 02:12:32,568 stretch of road I'd like to see public art everywhere 2047 02:12:32,598 --> 02:12:35,608 in the city I mean I can I can just 2048 02:12:35,608 --> 02:12:39,408 picture pocket memorial arena for example which is which is 2049 02:12:39,408 --> 02:12:44,468 the charcoal gray flak plaster ... with you know it 2050 02:12:44,498 --> 02:12:48,328 eighty eight mural of of sports there to take part 2051 02:12:48,328 --> 02:12:50,848 or renew sports for example to take part in this 2052 02:12:50,848 --> 02:12:55,698 city ... and that's that's where I'm coming from on 2053 02:12:55,698 --> 02:12:59,768 this ... I believe there's all sorts of art there's 2054 02:13:00,458 --> 02:13:03,178 you know it doesn't I I I'm not sure what 2055 02:13:03,178 --> 02:13:06,508 we're public art I'm just not sure about the word 2056 02:13:06,508 --> 02:13:10,278 public I just like art you could have 2057 02:13:10,278 --> 02:13:14,738 very very artistic world gardens that that our people do 2058 02:13:14,738 --> 02:13:18,158 a great job of here in the city you can 2059 02:13:18,158 --> 02:13:20,638 have those along the wall you could have as councillors 2060 02:13:20,818 --> 02:13:25,508 ... Whillans suggested the various types of ivy the cover 2061 02:13:25,508 --> 02:13:28,518 the top of the wall and ... like you know 2062 02:13:28,518 --> 02:13:33,468 like I guess the older Boston baseball field when we 2063 02:13:33,468 --> 02:13:38,728 park which looks tremendous ... you could have 2064 02:13:38,728 --> 02:13:41,228 for example of it you know the the the shaped 2065 02:13:41,268 --> 02:13:44,638 trees or that the district portions that can all be 2066 02:13:44,638 --> 02:13:48,328 included in and I want that all looked out along 2067 02:13:48,398 --> 02:13:52,758 this section of ... Williams parkway because as I mentioned 2068 02:13:53,338 --> 02:13:56,698 ... if we're gonna spend three hundred thousand dollars on 2069 02:13:56,848 --> 02:14:01,568 art ... I would much rather prefer to see it 2070 02:14:01,778 --> 02:14:05,918 all over the city every every ward gets public art 2071 02:14:06,048 --> 02:14:08,998 that's what that's what we need in the city and 2072 02:14:08,998 --> 02:14:12,298 I think Mr Carter solo alluded to that as well 2073 02:14:12,328 --> 02:14:15,818 that that needs to be everywhere in the city and 2074 02:14:15,818 --> 02:14:17,508 I would hate to think that we're just looking at 2075 02:14:17,508 --> 02:14:21,438 putting art on one little stretch of road that we 2076 02:14:21,438 --> 02:14:23,758 have a noise wall there now in this conflict less 2077 02:14:23,758 --> 02:14:27,598 she so rightly suggested which is unfinished you know when 2078 02:14:27,598 --> 02:14:31,218 we put trees and shrubs and bushes and and fluorocarbons 2079 02:14:31,248 --> 02:14:35,528 in there it's gonna look totally different so ... I'm 2080 02:14:35,528 --> 02:14:40,808 happy to support this going back for a referral 2081 02:14:40,808 --> 02:14:43,498 ... but I wanna make it clear when it does 2082 02:14:43,498 --> 02:14:46,678 come back that we need to be looking at art 2083 02:14:46,708 --> 02:14:50,498 everywhere so you know what that means that ... we 2084 02:14:50,528 --> 02:14:55,028 we limit a budget for specific artwork back area and 2085 02:14:55,058 --> 02:14:57,968 and spread the spread the wealth as we might want 2086 02:14:57,968 --> 02:15:00,148 to say to other areas of the city I'm all 2087 02:15:00,148 --> 02:15:02,998 in favor of that as well but you know there's 2088 02:15:02,998 --> 02:15:05,818 there's two things that we should be considering here as 2089 02:15:05,818 --> 02:15:09,338 well and and doc will come back in this report 2090 02:15:09,368 --> 02:15:13,618 I'm hoping and the ideas that in other areas ... 2091 02:15:13,838 --> 02:15:19,408 some jurisdictions have considered art at intersections as distractions for 2092 02:15:19,408 --> 02:15:23,208 drivers ... and and so I want to hear from 2093 02:15:23,208 --> 02:15:28,838 our traffic's staff whether that's an issue ... councillor Willhans 2094 02:15:28,868 --> 02:15:32,258 touched on a very good issue as well and that 2095 02:15:32,258 --> 02:15:35,668 is you know if we're if we're going to public 2096 02:15:35,668 --> 02:15:39,538 art you know what I need gas when that 2097 02:15:39,538 --> 02:15:43,268 the wall went up somebody considered that as as as 2098 02:15:43,298 --> 02:15:45,938 art as well and we've got a bunch of people 2099 02:15:45,938 --> 02:15:48,508 who don't like it and that's the problem that ... 2100 02:15:48,508 --> 02:15:51,378 Arts in the eye of the beholder and I don't 2101 02:15:51,378 --> 02:15:53,398 want to be putting up something there that that other 2102 02:15:53,398 --> 02:15:55,028 people are gonna say we should just left it the 2103 02:15:55,028 --> 02:15:57,418 way it was so there's a lot of things we 2104 02:15:57,418 --> 02:16:01,378 need to consider and finally I I can't remember whether 2105 02:16:01,378 --> 02:16:05,488 councillor Willhans touched on this or not but the more 2106 02:16:05,488 --> 02:16:09,668 greenery the more shrubbery the more trees we have on 2107 02:16:09,668 --> 02:16:13,898 that stretch of the more greenhouse gas we're gonna be 2108 02:16:14,128 --> 02:16:17,898 absorbing and and converting and when you've got that many 2109 02:16:17,898 --> 02:16:20,548 cars on that stretch of highway I think that is 2110 02:16:20,548 --> 02:16:24,808 an important consideration especially since we declared a climate emergency 2111 02:16:25,178 --> 02:16:28,088 so I'm happy to support this and see it come 2112 02:16:28,088 --> 02:16:33,118 back ... but again I would prefer to see art 2113 02:16:33,228 --> 02:16:36,038 everywhere throughout the city not just on one stretch of 2114 02:16:36,038 --> 02:16:38,438 highway thanks 2115 02:16:38,438 --> 02:16:42,268 okay councillor Willhans 2116 02:16:42,268 --> 02:16:45,498 yes there are councillor Bowman touched on a lot of 2117 02:16:45,498 --> 02:16:47,948 ... what I wanted to just add initial comment about 2118 02:16:47,948 --> 02:16:50,738 the ... production reveals that Mrs along that wall but 2119 02:16:51,008 --> 02:16:53,568 also ... one thing we have to factor in the 2120 02:16:53,568 --> 02:16:56,948 current when the wall was ... was constructed we made 2121 02:16:56,948 --> 02:16:58,708 there was a lot of ... greenhouse gases that were 2122 02:16:58,708 --> 02:17:01,988 needed in the production of that wall so they're adding 2123 02:17:01,988 --> 02:17:04,718 greenery adding shrubbery and adding things along that wall I 2124 02:17:04,958 --> 02:17:09,008 wonder if up bikes parts guys could work with ... 2125 02:17:09,058 --> 02:17:11,478 our environmental guys to sort of come up with that 2126 02:17:11,518 --> 02:17:15,038 analysis or data maybe just just 2127 02:17:15,038 --> 02:17:19,568 approximate on what the landscaping can do to help mitigate 2128 02:17:20,268 --> 02:17:23,468 the greenhouse gas emissions that were created when that wall 2129 02:17:23,468 --> 02:17:26,118 was actually constructed that be interesting to see as well 2130 02:17:26,218 --> 02:17:28,978 ... for for for the future as well ... we 2131 02:17:28,978 --> 02:17:33,648 got further projects like this thank you 2132 02:17:33,648 --> 02:17:36,808 okay next up is a councillor Santos no I can't 2133 02:17:36,808 --> 02:17:39,378 service so council Williams 2134 02:17:39,378 --> 02:17:42,798 yes thank you ... great debate on this ... I 2135 02:17:42,798 --> 02:17:46,078 think it's excellent to hear so many different opinions on 2136 02:17:46,108 --> 02:17:48,908 ... how all members of council feel about the art 2137 02:17:48,938 --> 02:17:52,748 I've heard are many say that art needs to be 2138 02:17:52,818 --> 02:17:55,828 and other areas of the city and I agree one 2139 02:17:55,828 --> 02:17:58,588 hundred percent that we need to have are represented throughout 2140 02:17:58,588 --> 02:18:01,128 our city ... but I don't hear a lot of 2141 02:18:01,128 --> 02:18:04,958 people say support for public art on this wall ... 2142 02:18:05,198 --> 02:18:08,658 it's so I wonder if we can straight out the 2143 02:18:08,658 --> 02:18:12,618 word public art and if that's not considered a friendly 2144 02:18:12,618 --> 02:18:16,028 then we vote on the were public art separately ... 2145 02:18:16,028 --> 02:18:20,798 so that's my one armed request I just wanted to 2146 02:18:20,798 --> 02:18:26,088 ask though if we do ... except the referral for 2147 02:18:26,128 --> 02:18:30,968 ... landscape trees public art another potential themes will be 2148 02:18:31,008 --> 02:18:35,578 art ... company be hired to develop the concept for 2149 02:18:35,578 --> 02:18:44,938 the public art when that report comes back 2150 02:18:44,938 --> 02:18:50,618 sorry closer through the chair will will what 2151 02:18:50,618 --> 02:18:54,468 we'll be looking at our consultants to provide the concept 2152 02:18:54,498 --> 02:18:57,558 for the public art on this wall if we accept 2153 02:18:57,668 --> 02:19:02,148 the referral ... if it passes today 2154 02:19:02,148 --> 02:19:05,388 it's unlikely that the consultant would develop better ... but 2155 02:19:05,388 --> 02:19:08,168 they would be able to ... it would either be 2156 02:19:08,168 --> 02:19:12,308 culture staff or ... or steps to be we've used 2157 02:19:12,308 --> 02:19:14,238 a few different times on a on a number of 2158 02:19:14,238 --> 02:19:17,478 projects to assist in ... 2159 02:19:17,478 --> 02:19:21,538 with the the getting the artists developing of that that 2160 02:19:21,538 --> 02:19:25,118 parameters of the of the works and then at getting 2161 02:19:25,118 --> 02:19:27,878 some design I would also note I mean it's three 2162 02:19:27,878 --> 02:19:30,068 clomid hers of art Hey 2163 02:19:30,068 --> 02:19:32,928 I think we were or it could have been and 2164 02:19:32,928 --> 02:19:35,388 so what we were thinking was that there'd be the 2165 02:19:35,388 --> 02:19:40,188 potential for multiple artists here not one one artist specifically 2166 02:19:40,188 --> 02:19:44,188 doing three three climate or support so there there could 2167 02:19:44,188 --> 02:19:48,998 be multiple opportunities available through that it also if Kelly's 2168 02:19:48,998 --> 02:19:52,968 available ... and I just want to ... 2169 02:19:52,968 --> 02:19:56,268 if if if there's thoughts around changing the public art 2170 02:19:56,378 --> 02:19:59,498 terminology I just think it may be valuable to have 2171 02:19:59,498 --> 02:20:02,248 a comment from her just as it pertains to the 2172 02:20:02,248 --> 02:20:06,098 strategy being developed in a no ... there's there's some 2173 02:20:06,098 --> 02:20:11,078 differentiation between kind of street level activation formal public art 2174 02:20:11,108 --> 02:20:13,368 and some different things so if you could just speak 2175 02:20:13,368 --> 02:20:15,728 to that if I could pass that 2176 02:20:15,728 --> 02:20:18,958 thank you 2177 02:20:18,958 --> 02:20:21,918 through the chair I think that ... in this case 2178 02:20:21,918 --> 02:20:24,858 when we're talking about a large scale mural along the 2179 02:20:24,858 --> 02:20:28,678 noise wall that public art is the appropriate terminology in 2180 02:20:28,678 --> 02:20:31,558 other cases we to talk about time place making or 2181 02:20:31,558 --> 02:20:34,378 temporary works of art but I am your project of 2182 02:20:34,378 --> 02:20:40,128 this size and scale public artists the appropriate terminology 2183 02:20:40,128 --> 02:20:43,748 okay thank you for that clarification ... I do I'd 2184 02:20:43,748 --> 02:20:48,198 still request that the word public art be removed because 2185 02:20:48,198 --> 02:20:52,008 I really do here many councillors saying ... I'm not 2186 02:20:52,038 --> 02:20:54,438 they're not in favor of public art on this noise 2187 02:20:54,438 --> 02:20:57,168 wall and I think that is in line with ... 2188 02:20:57,388 --> 02:21:02,398 how many people how people feel about ... Public aren't 2189 02:21:02,398 --> 02:21:06,198 even through the survey so that is my amendment and 2190 02:21:06,198 --> 02:21:08,608 if it's on guess not taken as a friendly then 2191 02:21:08,608 --> 02:21:13,508 we'd have to vote on that separately thank you 2192 02:21:13,508 --> 02:21:16,178 okay so we have a request for a recorded vote 2193 02:21:16,208 --> 02:21:17,768 I'd go to the clerk in the order in which 2194 02:21:17,768 --> 02:21:19,978 you do the vote through you Mr Mayor to members 2195 02:21:19,978 --> 02:21:23,248 of council the first vote would be ... 2196 02:21:23,248 --> 02:21:25,438 ... also just will deal with this matter first and 2197 02:21:25,438 --> 02:21:26,838 then we'll go back and deal with receipt of the 2198 02:21:26,838 --> 02:21:29,798 delegations of the first ... vote is on the proposed 2199 02:21:29,798 --> 02:21:32,218 amendment from cancer Williams to amend the refer a motion 2200 02:21:32,518 --> 02:21:36,218 from cancer Santos to remove the word public art 2201 02:21:36,218 --> 02:21:40,408 all in favor of the counselor Williams amendment and we 2202 02:21:40,408 --> 02:21:43,848 do require a second or for that amendment my apologies 2203 02:21:43,848 --> 02:21:47,938 we do the service what we're seeing is the second 2204 02:21:47,938 --> 02:21:51,138 or thank you so all in favor of the cancer 2205 02:21:51,138 --> 02:21:55,588 Williams amendment please indicate councillor Dylan 2206 02:21:55,588 --> 02:21:59,028 yes that's a yes councillor Singh 2207 02:21:59,028 --> 02:22:02,828 no no cancer Fortini 2208 02:22:02,828 --> 02:22:06,018 yes yes councillor Williams 2209 02:22:06,018 --> 02:22:09,068 yes yes cancel Madeiros 2210 02:22:09,068 --> 02:22:12,058 yes yes councillor Bowman 2211 02:22:12,058 --> 02:22:21,548 yes yes councillor Palleschi 2212 02:22:21,548 --> 02:22:26,228 councillor Palleschi 2213 02:22:26,228 --> 02:22:29,398 welcome back to counsel Willhans 2214 02:22:29,398 --> 02:22:30,528 yes 2215 02:22:30,528 --> 02:22:33,158 can service on to 2216 02:22:33,158 --> 02:22:34,738 nope 2217 02:22:34,738 --> 02:22:39,518 councillor Santos 2218 02:22:39,518 --> 02:22:40,778 no 2219 02:22:40,778 --> 02:22:43,978 cancel Palleschi 2220 02:22:43,978 --> 02:22:49,548 yes yes Mayor Brown I know no 2221 02:22:49,548 --> 02:22:52,738 the the motion carries 2222 02:22:52,738 --> 02:22:56,518 7 to 4 2223 02:22:56,518 --> 02:22:58,918 so the amendment carries the next vote is on the 2224 02:22:58,918 --> 02:23:03,458 councillor ... Santos is referral motion ... with the word 2225 02:23:03,458 --> 02:23:05,638 public art removed 2226 02:23:05,638 --> 02:23:07,708 it's just going to be removed 2227 02:23:07,708 --> 02:23:10,558 for struck out and this is a referral motion back 2228 02:23:10,558 --> 02:23:14,058 to staff all in favor of the referral motion please 2229 02:23:14,058 --> 02:23:20,388 indicate councillor Dylan 2230 02:23:20,388 --> 02:23:23,928 can I technical difficulty of you got cut out what 2231 02:23:23,928 --> 02:23:26,768 are we voting on 2232 02:23:26,768 --> 02:23:29,618 the the referral we're voting on The referral motion moved 2233 02:23:29,618 --> 02:23:33,918 by councillor Santos seconded by councillor Palleschi ... as amended 2234 02:23:33,918 --> 02:23:36,628 by chancellor Williams motion that just carried so the word 2235 02:23:36,628 --> 02:23:38,858 public art is removed the rest of the wording is 2236 02:23:38,858 --> 02:23:42,458 shown on the screen is the motion yes that's a 2237 02:23:42,458 --> 02:23:47,648 yes vote thank you councillor Singh 2238 02:23:47,648 --> 02:23:51,398 yes that's a yes councillor Fortini 2239 02:23:51,398 --> 02:23:54,258 yes yes councillor Williams 2240 02:23:54,258 --> 02:23:57,718 yes yes council Madeiros 2241 02:23:57,718 --> 02:24:00,578 yes thank you councillor Bowman 2242 02:24:00,578 --> 02:24:04,028 yes thank you counsel policy 2243 02:24:04,028 --> 02:24:07,368 yes thank you councillor Willhans 2244 02:24:07,368 --> 02:24:11,398 yes thank you cancer center 2245 02:24:11,398 --> 02:24:17,188 yes councillor Santos yes thank you Mayor Brown yes that 2246 02:24:17,188 --> 02:24:19,878 motion carries unanimously the refer a motion eleven to zero 2247 02:24:20,398 --> 02:24:24,008 okay anyone opposed to receiving the delegations which is the 2248 02:24:24,008 --> 02:24:27,668 mover and seconded by councillor Santos second accounts Williams anyone 2249 02:24:27,668 --> 02:24:30,388 oppose receiving the delegations 2250 02:24:30,388 --> 02:24:34,008 non delegations received 2251 02:24:34,008 --> 02:24:37,068 this takes us to our next item 2252 02:24:37,068 --> 02:24:42,198 seven point four delegations in regards to Rogers communications resolution 2253 02:24:42,198 --> 02:24:45,468 request for an ends at all joining us today is 2254 02:24:45,468 --> 02:24:46,838 John 2255 02:24:46,838 --> 02:24:51,298 melody vice president corporate real estate Rogers communication 2256 02:24:51,298 --> 02:24:54,648 we also have from the downtown Brampton BIA Kerry first 2257 02:24:54,648 --> 02:24:58,668 of all the chair Susie Godfrey executive director and Rick 2258 02:24:58,668 --> 02:25:02,658 Evans exactly member of new Brampton these 2259 02:25:02,658 --> 02:25:06,048 reference of the wrong hands and Sylvia Roberts okay these 2260 02:25:06,048 --> 02:25:09,168 delegations are regards to correspondence and a fourteen point three 2261 02:25:09,168 --> 02:25:13,138 from Rogers communications requesting council endorsement of resolutions for two 2262 02:25:13,138 --> 02:25:15,848 Ms at a request which can deal which we can 2263 02:25:15,848 --> 02:25:18,588 deal with after the delegation we also have a related 2264 02:25:18,588 --> 02:25:22,528 correspondence fourteen point four on today's agenda from Todd let's 2265 02:25:22,528 --> 02:25:25,798 see ... Brampton border trade in John kenapa less vice 2266 02:25:25,798 --> 02:25:29,518 president Caledon violence dated January twenty fifth 2267 02:25:29,518 --> 02:25:35,968 I welcome John followed by Kerry Susie and rec 2268 02:25:35,968 --> 02:25:38,828 good morning mayor Brown and councillors thank you for the 2269 02:25:38,828 --> 02:25:42,138 opportunity to speak to you today ... I want to 2270 02:25:42,138 --> 02:25:47,278 start by saying that we're living in relation transformational times 2271 02:25:47,278 --> 02:25:51,158 COVID nineteen has accelerated changes in the way ... we 2272 02:25:51,158 --> 02:25:55,078 work up by decades of this council meeting which is 2273 02:25:55,078 --> 02:25:58,048 a combination of in person and virtual is certainly an 2274 02:25:58,048 --> 02:25:59,738 example of that 2275 02:25:59,738 --> 02:26:01,518 ... the types of work that we do in our 2276 02:26:01,518 --> 02:26:05,388 office is in the future will change significantly ... which 2277 02:26:05,388 --> 02:26:08,298 will also change the type of work place that we 2278 02:26:08,298 --> 02:26:14,268 need ... the demand for technology employees is exploding the 2279 02:26:14,268 --> 02:26:18,058 battle to attract and retain the brightest and the best 2280 02:26:18,058 --> 02:26:22,888 will increasingly be more and more intense we believe Brampton 2281 02:26:22,888 --> 02:26:26,888 has been and will continue to be a good place 2282 02:26:26,888 --> 02:26:29,318 to recruit these employers 2283 02:26:29,318 --> 02:26:33,628 our workplace demographics are rapidly changing as well to predominately 2284 02:26:33,628 --> 02:26:37,248 Milan millennials and Gen sees many of whom don't have 2285 02:26:37,248 --> 02:26:39,718 a car and many of whom don't even have a 2286 02:26:39,718 --> 02:26:43,718 driver's license that's the need for connectivity to higher order 2287 02:26:43,718 --> 02:26:46,168 transit is impaired 2288 02:26:46,168 --> 02:26:49,928 the criticality of a modern workplace which enables new ways 2289 02:26:49,928 --> 02:26:55,068 of working connected to higher order public transit conveniently located 2290 02:26:55,068 --> 02:27:00,498 to local amenities and build sustainable missteps systemically is critical 2291 02:27:00,528 --> 02:27:04,888 to attracting and retaining talent it is critical for the 2292 02:27:04,888 --> 02:27:08,448 future success of Rogers 2293 02:27:08,448 --> 02:27:11,958 ... existing office at eighty two hundred Dixie some of 2294 02:27:11,958 --> 02:27:14,818 whom are some of the it the councillors in attendance 2295 02:27:14,818 --> 02:27:18,988 today have had the opportunity to tour is actually a 2296 02:27:18,988 --> 02:27:21,528 repurposed factory 2297 02:27:21,528 --> 02:27:24,668 ... it will not route meet Rogers requirements in the 2298 02:27:24,668 --> 02:27:26,598 long term 2299 02:27:26,598 --> 02:27:31,158 the site itself is under utilized so Rogers is proposing 2300 02:27:31,158 --> 02:27:33,758 to move our campus to a state of the art 2301 02:27:34,048 --> 02:27:38,958 facility in downtown Brampton adjacent to the Brampton go station 2302 02:27:39,148 --> 02:27:42,768 on lands currently owned by Metrolinx 2303 02:27:42,768 --> 02:27:47,278 this would result in thousands of high paying technology jobs 2304 02:27:47,278 --> 02:27:49,748 being retained in Brampton 2305 02:27:49,748 --> 02:27:52,908 it would result in the investment of at least a 2306 02:27:52,908 --> 02:27:58,818 hundred million dollars this site along the Brampton Toronto Waterloo 2307 02:27:58,848 --> 02:28:06,498 innovation corridor significantly expands Rogers transit accessible employee catchment area 2308 02:28:07,168 --> 02:28:11,358 securing this site is essential to Roger's ability to make 2309 02:28:11,358 --> 02:28:16,338 a long term investment in a new Brampton campus 2310 02:28:16,338 --> 02:28:19,338 at the same time we'd like to revitalize our eighty 2311 02:28:19,338 --> 02:28:23,608 two hundred sixty site by adding residential uses along Dixie 2312 02:28:23,608 --> 02:28:27,958 road while preserving a valuable employment note for the majority 2313 02:28:27,998 --> 02:28:30,418 of the site 2314 02:28:30,418 --> 02:28:34,118 Rogers is seeking Brampton City council support to request to 2315 02:28:34,118 --> 02:28:38,968 ministers owning orders that will enable Rogers to usher in 2316 02:28:38,998 --> 02:28:42,328 a new era of investment in Brampton 2317 02:28:42,328 --> 02:28:46,458 on the Brampton go lance Rogers is seeking permission that 2318 02:28:46,458 --> 02:28:49,988 would enable a campus with a minimum of two hundred 2319 02:28:49,988 --> 02:28:54,308 thousand square feet of office and retail uses with space 2320 02:28:54,308 --> 02:28:58,388 for additional office or residential uses uses that would be 2321 02:28:58,388 --> 02:29:03,218 accommodated basis we also seek your support for the sale 2322 02:29:03,248 --> 02:29:07,538 of the downside downtown site to Rogers symbol Cheney a 2323 02:29:07,538 --> 02:29:11,758 sleep Rogers is also seeking a ministers so in order 2324 02:29:12,158 --> 02:29:14,338 for the lands we will be vacating at eighty two 2325 02:29:14,338 --> 02:29:17,068 hundred Dixie road that would permit up to one point 2326 02:29:17,068 --> 02:29:21,078 two million square feet of industrial warehouse uses and up 2327 02:29:21,078 --> 02:29:25,518 to twenty five acres of residential development along Dixie road 2328 02:29:26,048 --> 02:29:29,378 to be built out in a mix of residential towers 2329 02:29:29,418 --> 02:29:32,488 and stacked townhomes 2330 02:29:32,488 --> 02:29:36,888 in summary this is a transformational time for Brampton and 2331 02:29:36,888 --> 02:29:42,028 for Rogers you are making great strides in the revitalization 2332 02:29:42,028 --> 02:29:46,258 of your downtown watchers would like to participate in and 2333 02:29:46,258 --> 02:29:50,148 to be a catalyst to accelerate this positive change we 2334 02:29:50,148 --> 02:29:54,908 appreciate your support and your partnership thank you again for 2335 02:29:54,908 --> 02:29:59,278 the opportunity to speak to you today 2336 02:29:59,278 --> 02:30:02,388 thank you John the next donations Kerry Percival chair of 2337 02:30:02,388 --> 02:30:04,908 the downtown Brampton BIA and Susie got from the exact 2338 02:30:04,908 --> 02:30:12,148 of director of the downtown Brampton BIA please person 2339 02:30:12,148 --> 02:30:13,338 good 2340 02:30:13,338 --> 02:30:16,998 I am it's got for here and I just wanted 2341 02:30:16,998 --> 02:30:22,088 to start by saying that she'll carry personal unfortunately had 2342 02:30:22,088 --> 02:30:24,818 to go to another meeting so I'm going to start 2343 02:30:24,818 --> 02:30:27,878 with her and she wanted me to read ... the 2344 02:30:27,878 --> 02:30:30,278 delegation if you wanna make this morning I think you 2345 02:30:30,278 --> 02:30:32,848 Mayor Brown and council members 2346 02:30:32,848 --> 02:30:35,308 I apologize for not being able to speak directly with 2347 02:30:35,308 --> 02:30:38,828 you we have the downtown Brampton BIA are very excited 2348 02:30:38,828 --> 02:30:42,618 to see Rodgers Rodgers item on today's agenda this is 2349 02:30:42,618 --> 02:30:46,078 an incredible opportunity for our city a major corporation like 2350 02:30:46,078 --> 02:30:49,338 Rogers that has been committed to Brampton in our community 2351 02:30:49,338 --> 02:30:53,628 for many years wants to continue this relationship with mass 2352 02:30:53,698 --> 02:30:56,638 investment in our people and community we will see an 2353 02:30:56,638 --> 02:31:00,548 increase in jobs and economic growth specifically for our downtown 2354 02:31:00,548 --> 02:31:01,878 core 2355 02:31:01,878 --> 02:31:05,618 at the downtown Brampton BIA fully supports our council to 2356 02:31:05,618 --> 02:31:09,568 request an MCO from the province for this project again 2357 02:31:09,568 --> 02:31:12,948 this is to an incredible opportunity and very exciting times 2358 02:31:12,948 --> 02:31:16,068 for Brampton and I'm not and I'm just gonna follow 2359 02:31:16,068 --> 02:31:18,868 with killings words I did want to say I was 2360 02:31:18,868 --> 02:31:22,298 really excited when I was reading over the weekend the 2361 02:31:22,298 --> 02:31:25,928 board packed beyond the council package and so I want 2362 02:31:25,928 --> 02:31:30,028 to say that yeah this is huge huge news for 2363 02:31:30,058 --> 02:31:34,358 downtown Brampton and ... it's a huge huge opportunity we 2364 02:31:34,358 --> 02:31:39,158 know that bringing Rodgers to downtown Brampton ... will create 2365 02:31:39,158 --> 02:31:43,678 more jobs and specifically in the tech field and and 2366 02:31:43,678 --> 02:31:47,618 more careers in the downtown core and ... as well 2367 02:31:47,618 --> 02:31:51,548 as building more commercial office space in downtown and that 2368 02:31:51,548 --> 02:31:53,858 will enable the whole city of Brampton to be more 2369 02:31:53,858 --> 02:31:58,758 competitive across the GTA with regards to commercial inventory and 2370 02:31:58,758 --> 02:32:03,698 commercial space so we're really excited about yes we know 2371 02:32:03,698 --> 02:32:07,988 this is going to spur more investment and economic growth 2372 02:32:08,018 --> 02:32:12,138 to downtown Brampton this is this is our time so 2373 02:32:12,138 --> 02:32:15,368 ... for the record just I wanted to publicly say 2374 02:32:15,368 --> 02:32:19,028 we fully support this request and ... we ask that 2375 02:32:19,058 --> 02:32:25,008 the city council prioritize this incredible opportunity thank you 2376 02:32:25,008 --> 02:32:27,748 thank you Susie the next elevation is Rick Evans executive 2377 02:32:27,748 --> 02:32:32,228 member of new Brampton please go ahead Rick 2378 02:32:32,228 --> 02:32:34,168 thank you Peter 2379 02:32:34,168 --> 02:32:35,388 2380 02:32:35,388 --> 02:32:37,748 brown councillors 2381 02:32:37,748 --> 02:32:43,268 city staff told delegates at most notably those representing Rogers 2382 02:32:43,498 --> 02:32:45,708 present today 2383 02:32:45,708 --> 02:32:49,418 I speak with a voice representing nearly four thousand supporters 2384 02:32:49,828 --> 02:32:53,698 of an ad hoc nonpartisan group only referred to as 2385 02:32:53,698 --> 02:32:55,598 the draft 2386 02:32:55,598 --> 02:33:00,308 our membership the city brought with individuals from all over 2387 02:33:00,528 --> 02:33:02,788 lots of this committee 2388 02:33:02,788 --> 02:33:08,268 some are developers property owners planners engineers 2389 02:33:08,268 --> 02:33:11,518 others such as I or simply long term residents of 2390 02:33:11,518 --> 02:33:13,438 the city 2391 02:33:13,438 --> 02:33:18,288 but we all out of vested interest in the development 2392 02:33:18,288 --> 02:33:19,978 of Brampton 2393 02:33:19,978 --> 02:33:23,328 and we all are focused on the betterment of our 2394 02:33:23,328 --> 02:33:25,508 community 2395 02:33:25,508 --> 02:33:29,278 it is with excitement 2396 02:33:29,278 --> 02:33:33,888 but the executive board of your Brampton endorse the proposal 2397 02:33:33,888 --> 02:33:37,748 would Rogers has shared with the downtown campus and the 2398 02:33:37,748 --> 02:33:40,898 redeployment other Dixie road lance 2399 02:33:40,898 --> 02:33:43,858 a brand new state of the art sustainable transit oriented 2400 02:33:44,278 --> 02:33:47,808 mixed use development with as much as five hundred thousand 2401 02:33:47,808 --> 02:33:50,368 square feet of commercial space 2402 02:33:50,368 --> 02:33:52,708 we cannot imagine 2403 02:33:52,708 --> 02:33:56,408 ... project good night to revitalize ation of our city 2404 02:33:56,408 --> 02:33:58,048 court 2405 02:33:58,048 --> 02:34:03,058 the possibilities are immense 2406 02:34:03,058 --> 02:34:04,868 2 2407 02:34:04,868 --> 02:34:06,708 enhance 2408 02:34:06,708 --> 02:34:08,948 water level transit 2409 02:34:08,948 --> 02:34:11,198 a transit hub 2410 02:34:11,198 --> 02:34:14,578 I can go on for hours 2411 02:34:14,578 --> 02:34:18,278 with the transit hub the technical employment and the redevelopment 2412 02:34:18,278 --> 02:34:22,098 of the Dixie road lands not to be forgotten 2413 02:34:22,098 --> 02:34:26,648 the corporate commitment demonstrated by Rogers to our community 2414 02:34:26,648 --> 02:34:30,208 is immensely welcome 2415 02:34:30,208 --> 02:34:33,078 their proposal aligns so well with our twenty forty vision 2416 02:34:33,078 --> 02:34:37,688 of city building it cannot put screens for our support 2417 02:34:37,688 --> 02:34:42,688 and we knew Brampton fully support and encourage our council 2418 02:34:43,028 --> 02:34:48,068 to request the elms those from the province as discussed 2419 02:34:48,068 --> 02:34:50,778 thank you for giving me the opportunity to share the 2420 02:34:50,778 --> 02:34:54,088 excitement that I house for 2421 02:34:54,088 --> 02:34:57,568 what Mr Mel the husband's playing to us 2422 02:34:57,568 --> 02:35:02,108 and up it is most welcome 2423 02:35:02,108 --> 02:35:05,748 thank you our record next up is Sylvia Roberts 2424 02:35:05,748 --> 02:35:09,998 a Brampton 2425 02:35:09,998 --> 02:35:11,198 can 2426 02:35:11,198 --> 02:35:12,968 we can 2427 02:35:12,968 --> 02:35:16,198 all right hello council by name is Sylvia Roberts we 2428 02:35:16,198 --> 02:35:18,508 have a three regarding the Ms that is like the 2429 02:35:18,508 --> 02:35:22,528 scene and incredibly tempting offer is a couple things that 2430 02:35:22,528 --> 02:35:26,018 council should also consider if the player committee of council 2431 02:35:26,018 --> 02:35:29,518 meeting council give the thumbs up to the downtown transit 2432 02:35:29,518 --> 02:35:31,468 hub T. pap to the best of my knowledge the 2433 02:35:31,468 --> 02:35:35,088 lands Rogers has proposed building a new campus on happens 2434 02:35:35,088 --> 02:35:36,448 to be part of that and is one of the 2435 02:35:36,448 --> 02:35:41,558 more likely parcel candidates the current bus terminal building does 2436 02:35:41,558 --> 02:35:43,198 need to be torn down to make room for the 2437 02:35:43,198 --> 02:35:47,568 third tracked increasing go service the downtown Mount Pleasant even 2438 02:35:47,568 --> 02:35:50,278 if the city were to select the current state the 2439 02:35:50,278 --> 02:35:52,798 side of the current bus terminal for the new bus 2440 02:35:52,798 --> 02:35:55,558 terminal there's still the matter of needing to relocate the 2441 02:35:55,558 --> 02:35:59,988 bus the current customer least temporarily in order to demolish 2442 02:35:59,988 --> 02:36:04,998 and rebuild that structure the parking lot immediately next to 2443 02:36:04,998 --> 02:36:06,408 2444 02:36:06,408 --> 02:36:10,468 transparent does represent a fairly good location for a temporary 2445 02:36:10,468 --> 02:36:12,368 thing 2446 02:36:12,368 --> 02:36:15,878 consideration at least for feeling of the development once it 2447 02:36:15,878 --> 02:36:19,178 is resolved the issue ... that the issue of a 2448 02:36:19,178 --> 02:36:22,948 computer intentionally competing need for personal question the city also 2449 02:36:22,948 --> 02:36:25,748 needs to turn to transportation planning the heck of a 2450 02:36:25,748 --> 02:36:28,728 lot of people have posted a worker 2451 02:36:28,728 --> 02:36:31,268 are they going to get better Mr members often the 2452 02:36:31,268 --> 02:36:35,078 parking study the city garages have capacity for adding another 2453 02:36:35,288 --> 02:36:38,978 seven hundred cars on a daily basis this is a 2454 02:36:38,978 --> 02:36:41,588 plan for how to accommodate the transportation demand for three 2455 02:36:41,588 --> 02:36:44,708 thousand people to get the downtown Brampton and because city 2456 02:36:44,708 --> 02:36:48,558 once the downtown spending money women hybrid work don't help 2457 02:36:48,558 --> 02:36:52,248 for the city's proposed goals ... 2458 02:36:52,248 --> 02:36:55,128 except for Mississauga that probably coming on the main street 2459 02:36:55,128 --> 02:36:57,488 south which is a little bit of an issue as 2460 02:36:57,488 --> 02:37:02,088 the city is recently reduced capacity on that road this 2461 02:37:02,088 --> 02:37:05,928 evening to explore alternatives to increase that and doesn't 2462 02:37:05,928 --> 02:37:10,838 ... the person the public representing Rogers has noted a 2463 02:37:10,838 --> 02:37:14,228 lot of the people take transit and so implementing bus 2464 02:37:14,228 --> 02:37:17,268 lanes on base main street is probably the most effective 2465 02:37:17,268 --> 02:37:22,528 way to improve our capacity on main street south city 2466 02:37:22,528 --> 02:37:26,738 may also wish to accelerate the implementation on queen street 2467 02:37:26,768 --> 02:37:30,478 east and of value it bus lanes on main street 2468 02:37:30,508 --> 02:37:34,488 north because most of the city does why north of 2469 02:37:34,488 --> 02:37:35,948 downtown 2470 02:37:35,948 --> 02:37:38,588 I would the plans purpose land the city will meet 2471 02:37:38,618 --> 02:37:41,908 at a number of buses to accommodate increased P. transportation 2472 02:37:41,908 --> 02:37:46,108 demand the downtown Ms auto potentially offers the opportunity for 2473 02:37:46,108 --> 02:37:49,098 mutual and by the city in Rogers and nothing that 2474 02:37:49,098 --> 02:37:51,938 I previously mentioned precludes the items that are from going 2475 02:37:51,938 --> 02:37:54,908 forward they're just things to be mindful of as as 2476 02:37:54,908 --> 02:37:56,888 it goes forward 2477 02:37:56,888 --> 02:38:00,118 much like Rogers has the benefit of the largest park 2478 02:38:00,178 --> 02:38:04,418 eighty eighty two hundred Dixie is functionally obsolescent for Rogers 2479 02:38:04,418 --> 02:38:07,648 and no longer serves the needs the Brampton transit's Clark 2480 02:38:07,648 --> 02:38:11,538 best maintenance and storage facility it is also getting thirty 2481 02:38:11,538 --> 02:38:15,938 two is relatively small capacity inability to accommodate articulated buses 2482 02:38:15,968 --> 02:38:19,858 and unknown capacity for electrification in the largest and is 2483 02:38:19,858 --> 02:38:22,668 there for the Dixie said they proposed an industrial space 2484 02:38:23,048 --> 02:38:27,548 is probably a suitable site in space or putting in 2485 02:38:27,578 --> 02:38:30,698 a new transit maintenance starts was only to replace the 2486 02:38:30,698 --> 02:38:33,788 clerk one which would allow for better economies of scale 2487 02:38:33,788 --> 02:38:38,788 in terms operations would definitely allow articulated buses 2488 02:38:38,788 --> 02:38:43,048 and if and you could easily plans for electrification from 2489 02:38:43,048 --> 02:38:46,358 the start because of its location on Dixie between queen 2490 02:38:46,358 --> 02:38:49,968 and steals queen we are very much working diligently on 2491 02:38:50,318 --> 02:38:52,378 to get the Queen Street B. R. two done as 2492 02:38:52,378 --> 02:38:56,478 soon as possible Instagram is also working towards that goal 2493 02:38:56,638 --> 02:38:59,088 so having the bus terminal that can actually supply the 2494 02:38:59,088 --> 02:39:03,058 articulated buses for those routes so close to it is 2495 02:39:03,058 --> 02:39:06,618 my vantage from operational point of view 2496 02:39:06,618 --> 02:39:10,178 there is a potential savings on non revenue hours because 2497 02:39:10,178 --> 02:39:14,178 it does actually take time to drive buses from this 2498 02:39:14,178 --> 02:39:19,538 site at a secure and transparent down to steals ... 2499 02:39:20,018 --> 02:39:22,868 a number of places have co located ... past the 2500 02:39:22,868 --> 02:39:27,888 Saudis and housing in September with electrification the buses will 2501 02:39:27,888 --> 02:39:29,338 also be 2502 02:39:29,338 --> 02:39:33,728 much more quiet and more compatible with that ... potentially 2503 02:39:33,728 --> 02:39:38,788 using that industrial the proposed industrial space for a maintenance 2504 02:39:38,788 --> 02:39:42,438 and storage facility is a similar you some point around 2505 02:39:42,778 --> 02:39:46,338 and as represents the potential opportunity for both the city 2506 02:39:46,568 --> 02:39:49,928 and Rogers to mutually when on this separate Ms that 2507 02:39:49,928 --> 02:39:51,308 I'll 2508 02:39:51,308 --> 02:39:54,828 unlike the highway fifty cents because it's in the urban 2509 02:39:54,828 --> 02:39:57,978 core and the city would need would not need anywhere 2510 02:39:57,978 --> 02:40:02,068 near as much parking because it already has decent transit 2511 02:40:02,068 --> 02:40:06,388 service to anticipate moving to twenty four seven service this 2512 02:40:06,388 --> 02:40:11,368 would late Mississaugas previously done with twenty four seven service 2513 02:40:11,628 --> 02:40:14,568 for twenty four hours service and don't region has also 2514 02:40:14,598 --> 02:40:19,828 moved towards is has implemented a twenty four seven service 2515 02:40:19,828 --> 02:40:21,488 mmhm 2516 02:40:21,488 --> 02:40:23,688 this kind of site would actually be very good for 2517 02:40:23,688 --> 02:40:28,418 supplying those vehicles are thank you that's my delegation 2518 02:40:28,418 --> 02:40:32,438 okay we will now go to questions of the 2519 02:40:32,438 --> 02:40:37,728 delegations and first off we have ... councillor the Sunday 2520 02:40:37,808 --> 02:40:39,988 thank you Mr Mayor just before review we begin those 2521 02:40:39,988 --> 02:40:41,978 just to remind council that we also have the added 2522 02:40:41,978 --> 02:40:44,948 briefing note from staff that's identified as ten point four 2523 02:40:44,948 --> 02:40:47,078 point one that was added to the agenda Rebecca that's 2524 02:40:47,078 --> 02:40:50,608 economic development regional so there's a question for a clear 2525 02:40:50,608 --> 02:40:52,928 Burnett and her team ... feel free to ask that 2526 02:40:52,928 --> 02:40:54,328 as well 2527 02:40:54,328 --> 02:40:56,378 2528 02:40:56,378 --> 02:40:58,548 councillor Sunday 2529 02:40:58,548 --> 02:41:00,358 thank you very much this matter are first of all 2530 02:41:00,358 --> 02:41:03,548 wanna thank ... Rogers and John Mallory for coming here 2531 02:41:03,548 --> 02:41:06,638 today with this ... incredible opportunity for the city of 2532 02:41:06,638 --> 02:41:10,838 Brampton I wanna thank ... the delegations ... who spoke 2533 02:41:10,838 --> 02:41:15,978 ... in favor of this proposal and ... thank you 2534 02:41:15,978 --> 02:41:21,748 for your continued support and ... valid suggestions ... for 2535 02:41:21,778 --> 02:41:24,458 all of us ... I'm not going to spend too 2536 02:41:24,458 --> 02:41:27,878 much time right now ... speaking to this I would 2537 02:41:27,878 --> 02:41:33,098 much rather give the opportunity for our economic development team 2538 02:41:33,098 --> 02:41:38,098 and director clear Barnett's ... to speak to us about 2539 02:41:38,138 --> 02:41:40,768 ... the economic 2540 02:41:40,768 --> 02:41:45,828 implications of this proposal for the city of Brampton and 2541 02:41:45,828 --> 02:41:49,778 provide us with ... ... ruble 2542 02:41:49,778 --> 02:41:52,898 ... direction up the a briefing note that we all 2543 02:41:52,898 --> 02:41:58,018 received late yesterday from them so that's it on to 2544 02:41:58,018 --> 02:42:03,178 you through you chair to clear 2545 02:42:03,178 --> 02:42:06,288 councillor and thank you for the question and the opportunity 2546 02:42:06,318 --> 02:42:10,538 to speak about this investment or potential investment the economic 2547 02:42:10,538 --> 02:42:16,398 development office in Fuzi artistically supports and recommends this relocation 2548 02:42:16,428 --> 02:42:21,328 to downtown Brampton it really demonstrates a significant investment from 2549 02:42:21,328 --> 02:42:25,728 an economic development perspective to downtown and also an incredible 2550 02:42:25,728 --> 02:42:28,588 impact for innovation district 2551 02:42:28,588 --> 02:42:33,688 through this development Brampton would retain a critical employer in 2552 02:42:33,688 --> 02:42:36,888 our tech sector one of the largest employers and our 2553 02:42:36,888 --> 02:42:40,448 tech sector as you heard from the delegation they are 2554 02:42:40,448 --> 02:42:44,728 employing thousands of people around three thousand people in their 2555 02:42:44,728 --> 02:42:48,208 Brampton facility currently we know many of those are residents 2556 02:42:48,208 --> 02:42:49,878 of Brampton 2557 02:42:49,878 --> 02:42:53,898 and so this ... development would help maintain and retain 2558 02:42:53,998 --> 02:42:57,328 retain many of those high paying tech jobs in our 2559 02:42:57,328 --> 02:42:59,218 city 2560 02:42:59,218 --> 02:43:02,918 Rogers would also become the anchor business in our innovation 2561 02:43:02,918 --> 02:43:06,588 district which is really critical for the next stage of 2562 02:43:06,588 --> 02:43:11,568 the development of our innovation district we have been looking 2563 02:43:11,568 --> 02:43:15,808 internationally to try and recruit ... an ad tech company 2564 02:43:15,808 --> 02:43:19,008 to become an B. R. anchor tenant having Rogers a 2565 02:43:19,008 --> 02:43:22,578 Canadian company B. R. tenant just makes it even more 2566 02:43:22,578 --> 02:43:24,818 impossible for us 2567 02:43:24,818 --> 02:43:28,778 the new Rogers presence downtown would also attract employees and 2568 02:43:28,778 --> 02:43:33,178 talent from outside Brampton ... and really solidify our place 2569 02:43:33,538 --> 02:43:36,798 within Canada's innovation corner and I think John Mel B. 2570 02:43:36,798 --> 02:43:40,858 also mentioned the incredible location branch in being right in 2571 02:43:40,858 --> 02:43:44,638 the center of the innovation quarter Canada's innovation corner this 2572 02:43:44,638 --> 02:43:48,848 really really illustrates the importance of that geographic position and 2573 02:43:48,848 --> 02:43:51,108 orientation district 2574 02:43:51,108 --> 02:43:54,058 in economic development we measure the impact of an investment 2575 02:43:54,088 --> 02:43:59,388 through jobs created jobs retained and the company's capital expenditure 2576 02:43:59,388 --> 02:44:02,638 and by all of those traditional measurements this is an 2577 02:44:02,638 --> 02:44:07,568 incredibly impactful investments I will say that also in economics 2578 02:44:07,568 --> 02:44:10,938 about we don't count as an investment win intelligible is 2579 02:44:11,308 --> 02:44:15,688 finalized signed and announced it as the downtown site really 2580 02:44:15,688 --> 02:44:17,868 is the only one in our city being considered at 2581 02:44:17,868 --> 02:44:20,608 this time I hope that we do show our support 2582 02:44:20,608 --> 02:44:23,908 for the plans and certainly from an economic development perspective 2583 02:44:24,338 --> 02:44:29,948 we enthusiastically support the plans thank you very much 2584 02:44:29,948 --> 02:44:32,648 thank you very much ... clear and I think I 2585 02:44:32,648 --> 02:44:36,898 will now yield to ... remainder members of council who 2586 02:44:36,898 --> 02:44:39,168 are on the speakers list and I'll reserve my comments 2587 02:44:39,168 --> 02:44:41,718 for later thank 2588 02:44:41,718 --> 02:44:46,148 okay thank you councillor something next up is ... councillor 2589 02:44:46,148 --> 02:44:51,678 Dhillon 2590 02:44:51,678 --> 02:44:55,848 six hours ago yes well thank you so much ... 2591 02:44:55,878 --> 02:44:59,058 I just wanna just ... 2592 02:44:59,058 --> 02:45:02,878 ... thank god ... a job coming in today and 2593 02:45:03,288 --> 02:45:07,638 see what thank Rogers is well actually ... 2594 02:45:07,638 --> 02:45:10,018 work at Rogers my brother worked out well I had 2595 02:45:10,018 --> 02:45:12,918 two brothers who worked at what is that ... 2596 02:45:12,918 --> 02:45:16,788 enter campuses well ... it way back in the order 2597 02:45:16,788 --> 02:45:20,578 ... well that the leader of six point is when 2598 02:45:20,578 --> 02:45:24,108 you guys moved in and ... my brother was there 2599 02:45:24,108 --> 02:45:27,878 at the time ... seven metric early ... 2600 02:45:27,878 --> 02:45:30,418 my department that I was working and we moved in 2601 02:45:30,418 --> 02:45:34,258 from Scarborough ... two Brampton and I know a number 2602 02:45:34,258 --> 02:45:39,598 of all employees who were from Scarborough ... will probably 2603 02:45:39,718 --> 02:45:41,708 by ... 2604 02:45:41,708 --> 02:45:44,338 the experience of some of the most so 2605 02:45:44,338 --> 02:45:48,008 all star will be probably the most proud of their 2606 02:45:48,008 --> 02:45:51,048 ... where they live well I've ever met but this 2607 02:45:51,258 --> 02:45:55,148 one a majority of them the majority but ... a 2608 02:45:55,148 --> 02:45:58,488 large number of them I move to Brampton and ... 2609 02:45:58,718 --> 02:46:00,738 you know they have the a lot of good to 2610 02:46:00,738 --> 02:46:04,438 say about the city ... which I guess the word 2611 02:46:04,438 --> 02:46:07,218 to similar story and 2612 02:46:07,218 --> 02:46:10,898 ... the Rogers campus was home well Sir granting campus 2613 02:46:10,898 --> 02:46:14,428 was it was a great campus ... you know they 2614 02:46:14,428 --> 02:46:16,638 they gave so many jobs to so many people in 2615 02:46:16,638 --> 02:46:21,818 Branson and the ... just the economically was such a 2616 02:46:21,818 --> 02:46:25,218 a bigger player also the City 2617 02:46:25,218 --> 02:46:26,958 2618 02:46:26,958 --> 02:46:31,178 so just charged a couple questions for you 2619 02:46:31,178 --> 02:46:33,648 I guess it might be repeatable but hope they're you 2620 02:46:33,648 --> 02:46:36,738 know they're not but ... 2621 02:46:36,738 --> 02:46:39,368 you guys are asking for the M. zero four the 2622 02:46:39,368 --> 02:46:44,648 actual Dixie location ... AA and 2623 02:46:44,648 --> 02:46:46,938 you know what what discussions have you had in terms 2624 02:46:46,938 --> 02:46:50,068 of getting the ... the lands in 2625 02:46:50,068 --> 02:46:54,098 and ... in the downtown Brampton like what will surely 2626 02:46:54,128 --> 02:46:57,968 in the residents of Brampton gets that you'll 2627 02:46:57,968 --> 02:46:59,918 you know you're well 2628 02:46:59,918 --> 02:47:04,768 you guys will receive these lands will problems 2629 02:47:04,768 --> 02:47:07,958 thank you for the questions councillor done so in terms 2630 02:47:07,958 --> 02:47:12,158 of the the the lands we have had very preliminary 2631 02:47:12,158 --> 02:47:17,598 discussions with the Metrolinx certainly this part of Brampton ... 2632 02:47:17,598 --> 02:47:21,878 we feel would be ... very very important ... in 2633 02:47:21,878 --> 02:47:25,488 order for us to secure that that property so that's 2634 02:47:25,538 --> 02:47:28,008 that that's the that's what part of the part of 2635 02:47:28,008 --> 02:47:31,048 the resolution that we're asking for today that that Brampton 2636 02:47:31,048 --> 02:47:35,998 support the provincial government ... would sell those ... the 2637 02:47:36,258 --> 02:47:39,648 sell that property to us ... and I'm sorry can 2638 02:47:39,648 --> 02:47:41,978 you repeat the question on the eighty two hundred sixty 2639 02:47:42,008 --> 02:47:43,708 property 2640 02:47:43,708 --> 02:47:45,798 so you've got to be Ms at all on the 2641 02:47:45,828 --> 02:47:49,298 on the Dixie property is that correct yes that's correct 2642 02:47:49,328 --> 02:47:52,538 yeah ... but if that would be Ms if the 2643 02:47:52,538 --> 02:47:57,828 Ms at all was to be conditional on ... what 2644 02:47:57,828 --> 02:48:01,428 the request from the Brampton the city in the Ms 2645 02:48:01,428 --> 02:48:03,418 it'll be ... 2646 02:48:03,418 --> 02:48:06,748 a conditional on that ... you know we get some 2647 02:48:06,748 --> 02:48:10,148 certainty that ... the lands will be provided to you 2648 02:48:10,148 --> 02:48:12,568 are you okay with that is that what you're is 2649 02:48:12,568 --> 02:48:14,998 that what you're requesting as well 2650 02:48:14,998 --> 02:48:17,298 yes I mean on the bottom line is Rogers wants 2651 02:48:17,298 --> 02:48:22,788 to relocate our office downtown Brampton and stuff ... that's 2652 02:48:22,818 --> 02:48:25,268 it it's it's a place that works for us ... 2653 02:48:25,268 --> 02:48:27,578 it's a place that we believe will continue to be 2654 02:48:27,578 --> 02:48:33,228 a great location to recruit ... ... technology employees and 2655 02:48:33,568 --> 02:48:37,638 ... and on that basis ... that's why we want 2656 02:48:37,638 --> 02:48:41,548 to invest well over a hundred millions of dollars in 2657 02:48:41,548 --> 02:48:44,208 that in that location 2658 02:48:44,208 --> 02:48:47,818 and I appreciate that and ... justice trying to speak 2659 02:48:47,818 --> 02:48:51,538 with us much ... biases I can Rogers is a 2660 02:48:51,838 --> 02:48:57,478 phenomenal ... organization ... you had a great time when 2661 02:48:57,478 --> 02:49:00,398 I worked there again the family members their friends ... 2662 02:49:00,428 --> 02:49:02,708 workers well and ... 2663 02:49:02,708 --> 02:49:06,588 ... just the culture back to ... is ... within 2664 02:49:06,588 --> 02:49:12,608 the Rogers itself ... I think there could be ... 2665 02:49:12,608 --> 02:49:15,208 in addition to have this new building it in ... 2666 02:49:15,498 --> 02:49:19,638 in downtown Brampton we've got to come to fruition and 2667 02:49:19,638 --> 02:49:23,258 ... as you mentioned ... the times are changing a 2668 02:49:23,258 --> 02:49:28,288 we have a a younger population that's ... ... extremely 2669 02:49:28,688 --> 02:49:33,418 innovative and ... ... you know 2670 02:49:33,418 --> 02:49:37,468 amazing ideas and ... I think you know everybody's in 2671 02:49:37,468 --> 02:49:41,098 the innovation corridor I would be ... 2672 02:49:41,098 --> 02:49:44,078 asset in addition and so quickly but I can definitely 2673 02:49:44,298 --> 02:49:47,428 support this practice again ... do we just need a 2674 02:49:47,428 --> 02:49:49,908 little bit more ... 2675 02:49:49,908 --> 02:49:53,148 certainty and they're a little bit more ... medication from 2676 02:49:53,148 --> 02:49:56,788 products so that this is gonna happen and ... but 2677 02:49:56,788 --> 02:50:00,478 to really excited at the opportunity thank you 2678 02:50:00,478 --> 02:50:03,018 thank you councillor Dhillon 2679 02:50:03,018 --> 02:50:06,558 councillor Singh councillor Singh 2680 02:50:06,558 --> 02:50:09,558 thank you thank you John for ... coming in to 2681 02:50:09,558 --> 02:50:12,548 make your delegation thank you to all the delegations for 2682 02:50:12,548 --> 02:50:19,478 providing your input ... it's an extremely exciting opportunity ... 2683 02:50:19,528 --> 02:50:22,028 ... read through that and settled up look at some 2684 02:50:22,028 --> 02:50:25,958 of the concept plan ... and ... you know it'll 2685 02:50:26,048 --> 02:50:29,448 I think it'll have a huge impact for Brampton ... 2686 02:50:29,778 --> 02:50:31,268 I just wanna 2687 02:50:31,268 --> 02:50:33,388 yeah you know it's not for today but I just 2688 02:50:33,388 --> 02:50:35,508 want to put it down for the minutes to flake 2689 02:50:35,538 --> 02:50:38,618 ... for you for the future ... building on what 2690 02:50:38,618 --> 02:50:41,828 Sylvia was saying I hope ... through this partnership in 2691 02:50:41,828 --> 02:50:45,698 working together ... what we could to have Roger support 2692 02:50:45,698 --> 02:50:49,588 it and I I hope ... advocate for some of 2693 02:50:49,588 --> 02:50:52,888 our ... transportation projects because the benefit you as well 2694 02:50:52,888 --> 02:50:55,678 and also we were talk about Queen Street B. R. 2695 02:50:55,678 --> 02:50:59,328 T. L. R. T. ... you know hopefully if everything 2696 02:50:59,328 --> 02:51:02,248 goes through ... hope that count of you as a 2697 02:51:02,248 --> 02:51:04,528 partner to help advocate for those of you see it'll 2698 02:51:04,528 --> 02:51:09,808 help your employees tremendously ... as well ... secondly as 2699 02:51:09,848 --> 02:51:11,888 a guest I know they're just concept plans but I 2700 02:51:11,888 --> 02:51:15,808 just wanted to also ... bring up the point that 2701 02:51:15,808 --> 02:51:17,838 ... I saw the ... some of the high level 2702 02:51:17,838 --> 02:51:21,328 of warehouse ... designs ... something that's been happening in 2703 02:51:21,328 --> 02:51:24,118 my area it's the warehouses with some office space as 2704 02:51:24,118 --> 02:51:28,438 well something to consider as well ... because ... warehouses 2705 02:51:28,438 --> 02:51:30,878 tend to have a little bit lower the job of 2706 02:51:30,878 --> 02:51:33,458 the with office space in there as well and ... 2707 02:51:33,488 --> 02:51:35,768 it helps up those numbers and bring sort of a 2708 02:51:35,768 --> 02:51:38,808 different type of job ... as well ... which we 2709 02:51:38,808 --> 02:51:41,988 always appreciate with office space ... those are just some 2710 02:51:42,018 --> 02:51:44,968 comments I want to make outside of that ... thank 2711 02:51:44,968 --> 02:51:48,278 you for this proposal and ... look forward to supporting 2712 02:51:48,278 --> 02:51:50,668 it thank you 2713 02:51:50,668 --> 02:51:54,228 thank you councillor Singh yes certainly ... ... transportation was 2714 02:51:54,228 --> 02:51:59,928 transferred up transportation projects ... Brampton BRT at the extension 2715 02:51:59,928 --> 02:52:03,378 of the Hurontario LRT ... we see as very very 2716 02:52:03,378 --> 02:52:08,458 important so you absolutely will have our support 2717 02:52:08,458 --> 02:52:10,108 okay thank you 2718 02:52:10,108 --> 02:52:14,268 okay next was council Bowman 2719 02:52:14,268 --> 02:52:16,278 thank you through you Mr chair thanks very much for 2720 02:52:16,278 --> 02:52:21,158 coming in John sounds like ... understanding proposal actually ... 2721 02:52:21,158 --> 02:52:22,988 as a as a guy who was born and raised 2722 02:52:22,988 --> 02:52:25,708 here Brampton I know how important it was when Rogers 2723 02:52:25,708 --> 02:52:29,138 took over Nortel you know what 2724 02:52:29,138 --> 02:52:31,918 a large piece of land that ... the city was 2725 02:52:31,918 --> 02:52:34,038 really unsure about at that point but ... you made 2726 02:52:34,038 --> 02:52:37,628 it very successful they are on 2727 02:52:37,628 --> 02:52:41,808 I'm just wondering if anybody from planning can walk me 2728 02:52:41,808 --> 02:52:48,188 through because you're playing for two Ms adults correct 2729 02:52:48,188 --> 02:52:53,008 but rest yeah I just like planning to explain how 2730 02:52:53,008 --> 02:52:56,928 how the city can agreed or names at all when 2731 02:52:57,628 --> 02:53:00,208 when they don't own the land how does that how 2732 02:53:00,208 --> 02:53:02,548 does that work and and how does that go through 2733 02:53:02,548 --> 02:53:05,428 is there anyone from planning could explain that through the 2734 02:53:05,428 --> 02:53:08,688 chair it Sir Richard we have ... we have on 2735 02:53:08,688 --> 02:53:12,098 a person who's been really ... heading up the unsettled 2736 02:53:12,288 --> 02:53:15,518 ... work to date on the line as well and 2737 02:53:15,958 --> 02:53:17,868 you can speak to that but the key here is 2738 02:53:17,868 --> 02:53:19,128 that 2739 02:53:19,128 --> 02:53:22,438 the 2 ends of those are not 2740 02:53:22,438 --> 02:53:24,108 jointly 2741 02:53:24,108 --> 02:53:28,208 like coach went together thirst their separate land use applications 2742 02:53:28,728 --> 02:53:30,298 ... 2743 02:53:30,298 --> 02:53:37,768 yeah Allen can certainly speak to speak to the 2744 02:53:37,768 --> 02:53:41,208 through the chair in response to the question councillor Bowman 2745 02:53:41,428 --> 02:53:44,078 that alone persons here so it would work with respect 2746 02:53:44,078 --> 02:53:47,818 to the zoning matters and and rezoning applications that's us 2747 02:53:47,848 --> 02:53:51,068 city stuff typically to receive that many of that we 2748 02:53:51,148 --> 02:53:54,188 we walk through and similarly here with that with Ms 2749 02:53:54,188 --> 02:53:57,768 that ... requests no there is a there there isn't 2750 02:53:58,068 --> 02:54:01,828 actually a a need for the the particular owner of 2751 02:54:01,828 --> 02:54:05,948 the property to be the other the instigator of the 2752 02:54:06,168 --> 02:54:08,998 any rezoning application your through to us through through the 2753 02:54:08,998 --> 02:54:13,048 city and and likewise in the end zone over cost 2754 02:54:13,318 --> 02:54:15,948 so in this case here with the downtown property in 2755 02:54:15,948 --> 02:54:18,148 particular that were speaking to yeah we we understand that 2756 02:54:18,148 --> 02:54:21,438 yes Metrolinx is sticker or of the property no there 2757 02:54:21,438 --> 02:54:24,738 are arrangements that are being worked on now to ... 2758 02:54:24,738 --> 02:54:28,558 towards a sale ... stucco the lands really this is 2759 02:54:28,558 --> 02:54:32,788 what what is being walked towards but ... notwithstanding the 2760 02:54:32,788 --> 02:54:36,388 fact that of Metrolinx themselves happens put forward a and 2761 02:54:36,388 --> 02:54:39,248 I'm sort of a request that is not the audit 2762 02:54:39,588 --> 02:54:43,188 that's not a necessity okay I have been hands in 2763 02:54:43,188 --> 02:54:47,188 advance of the minister himself working towards ... and Ms 2764 02:54:47,188 --> 02:54:50,158 auto a lot of really for for the site really 2765 02:54:50,158 --> 02:54:54,128 nor would it be necessary for for council to we 2766 02:54:54,128 --> 02:54:58,578 have a request your through to yourselves in other from 2767 02:54:58,578 --> 02:55:01,678 from the current property owner in that respect either so 2768 02:55:01,908 --> 02:55:03,888 just to speak to it at all a little further 2769 02:55:03,888 --> 02:55:07,248 there are instances where ... the city of Brampton might 2770 02:55:07,248 --> 02:55:11,228 very well want to see a lands rezoned ... for 2771 02:55:11,638 --> 02:55:14,618 the common good of the city notwithstanding the fact that 2772 02:55:14,708 --> 02:55:18,188 the ... Groner hasn't put forth request and so they're 2773 02:55:18,188 --> 02:55:21,178 throughout the process to be had there and we can 2774 02:55:21,318 --> 02:55:24,628 embark upon that and we have in the past but 2775 02:55:24,628 --> 02:55:27,948 topic here with this Ms ... request a really coming 2776 02:55:27,948 --> 02:55:32,108 forward Rogers knowing that to a land deal has to 2777 02:55:32,108 --> 02:55:36,608 occur there's nothing that certainly with us from a from 2778 02:55:37,098 --> 02:55:37,448 a 2779 02:55:37,448 --> 02:55:41,598 the post a staff report that necessitates having that request 2780 02:55:41,728 --> 02:55:44,798 be with us from the current land or 2781 02:55:44,798 --> 02:55:48,198 with a clear spice things for you councillor Bowman and 2782 02:55:48,298 --> 02:55:50,028 the rest council 2783 02:55:50,028 --> 02:55:51,498 yeah 2784 02:55:51,498 --> 02:55:56,128 and I just to follow up on that so 2785 02:55:56,128 --> 02:56:00,418 what are the what are the risks in presenting the 2786 02:56:00,418 --> 02:56:05,318 Ms that all without Metrolinx which is the land owner 2787 02:56:06,198 --> 02:56:12,158 agreeing to change the zoning of their property are are 2788 02:56:12,158 --> 02:56:18,838 are we running follow of any planning guidelines or 2789 02:56:18,838 --> 02:56:22,168 I just don't understand it I know councillor Medeiros and 2790 02:56:22,168 --> 02:56:25,608 cancer Fortini are the the planning guys here but I 2791 02:56:25,608 --> 02:56:29,528 just don't under I still don't get how 2792 02:56:29,528 --> 02:56:36,128 somebody can apply for a rezoning of someone else's land 2793 02:56:36,128 --> 02:56:38,998 is this open for I don't 2794 02:56:38,998 --> 02:56:42,458 you know in any case is open for Metrolinx at 2795 02:56:42,458 --> 02:56:45,128 some point to say no we don't want to rezone 2796 02:56:45,128 --> 02:56:47,628 the land is like what are we setting ourselves up 2797 02:56:47,628 --> 02:56:50,168 for here through the chair it's and Richard about ninety 2798 02:56:50,168 --> 02:56:52,758 and we've also got Bob jerking on the line the 2799 02:56:52,758 --> 02:56:57,668 city is undertaking a comprehensive zoning bylaw update which really 2800 02:56:57,668 --> 02:57:01,448 means that the city is working ... ... changing land 2801 02:57:01,448 --> 02:57:06,158 use ... ... ... missions throughout the city so not 2802 02:57:06,158 --> 02:57:09,898 necessarily having to have the specific land owner 2803 02:57:09,898 --> 02:57:11,908 be part of the day they'll be part of the 2804 02:57:11,908 --> 02:57:13,818 process in the sense of the to the open public 2805 02:57:13,818 --> 02:57:15,508 process but 2806 02:57:15,508 --> 02:57:18,118 the city is going for with the comprehensive zoning bylaw 2807 02:57:18,148 --> 02:57:22,198 update on end and that's that's 2808 02:57:22,198 --> 02:57:23,888 but certainly 2809 02:57:23,888 --> 02:57:26,448 you know that's certainly what ... what the city is 2810 02:57:26,448 --> 02:57:29,288 up to and then and then I think maybe Bob 2811 02:57:29,288 --> 02:57:33,638 you can perhaps speak to how that approached us and 2812 02:57:33,638 --> 02:57:36,038 yeah it the commissioner for if I could be helpful 2813 02:57:36,038 --> 02:57:38,898 here I I did get a call from Phil Verster 2814 02:57:38,898 --> 02:57:43,528 Metrolinx to express his support ... for this ... project 2815 02:57:43,528 --> 02:57:47,328 with with Rogers ... ... if that's ... helpful cancer 2816 02:57:47,328 --> 02:57:49,368 Bowman 2817 02:57:49,368 --> 02:57:52,578 that's problems tomorrow they can write a letter of support 2818 02:57:52,808 --> 02:57:55,078 for this and does well 2819 02:57:55,078 --> 02:57:57,638 ... I believe they're doing that to the minister's office 2820 02:57:57,668 --> 02:58:00,508 ... to be supportive of this opportunity with Rogers because 2821 02:58:00,508 --> 02:58:05,608 it's within their interest of ... of what a what 2822 02:58:05,608 --> 02:58:08,128 they like to see on their lands ... in so 2823 02:58:08,128 --> 02:58:12,188 maybe we could ... ask for a copy of ... 2824 02:58:12,338 --> 02:58:16,088 whatever correspondence they have sent the minister's office 2825 02:58:16,088 --> 02:58:18,228 yeah I would appreciate that because I just wanna make 2826 02:58:18,228 --> 02:58:20,388 sure all our ducks are in a line here because 2827 02:58:20,818 --> 02:58:23,778 again we're we're going ahead with the numbers at all 2828 02:58:23,778 --> 02:58:27,908 we're not having any public consultations on this ... and 2829 02:58:27,908 --> 02:58:30,788 and you know they're there I I eat I just 2830 02:58:30,788 --> 02:58:35,428 want to avoid the backlash that that could be had 2831 02:58:35,428 --> 02:58:38,708 when things like this happen there's no question I want 2832 02:58:38,708 --> 02:58:42,668 Roger downtown no question at all ... but I don't 2833 02:58:42,668 --> 02:58:45,198 wanna have to jump through any hoops and and go 2834 02:58:45,198 --> 02:58:48,988 through all sorts of extra steps that we didn't anticipate 2835 02:58:49,018 --> 02:58:51,938 before we said yes to these ... settles so I 2836 02:58:51,938 --> 02:58:54,448 I hope that's understood 2837 02:58:54,448 --> 02:58:56,898 Mr Mayor perhaps I can just your of elaborate on 2838 02:58:56,898 --> 02:59:00,058 what it mentioned before just to help respond to cancer 2839 02:59:00,058 --> 02:59:03,708 Bowman here of further to what is mentioned before cancer 2840 02:59:03,708 --> 02:59:07,868 Bowman the minister and really through all staff's conversations with 2841 02:59:07,868 --> 02:59:11,258 the staff from the minister's office we understand that they 2842 02:59:11,258 --> 02:59:15,478 work staff in the M. M. H. mistreatment this call 2843 02:59:15,478 --> 02:59:18,408 person housing they they work very closely with the other 2844 02:59:18,438 --> 02:59:22,418 ministry groups obviously and we come to understand the current 2845 02:59:22,418 --> 02:59:25,108 level of detail as relates to the issues that the 2846 02:59:25,308 --> 02:59:28,318 other ministries are putting forward so here with respect to 2847 02:59:28,318 --> 02:59:32,268 the Metrolinx and having an understanding from them ... the 2848 02:59:32,268 --> 02:59:34,908 local to support such a week we understand that yes 2849 02:59:34,908 --> 02:59:37,108 that we're gonna be following up in a very detailed 2850 02:59:37,108 --> 02:59:41,088 way up towards the receiving all of the comments and 2851 02:59:41,138 --> 02:59:42,558 really that 2852 02:59:42,558 --> 02:59:44,848 the minister of municipal affairs you would really want to 2853 02:59:44,848 --> 02:59:48,028 have that inherent in advance of with him pulling the 2854 02:59:48,028 --> 02:59:51,518 trigger on an action and and the middle here on 2855 02:59:51,518 --> 02:59:55,398 the site and the disapproval of about as well I 2856 02:59:55,398 --> 03:00:00,368 wouldn't foresee any issues with your changing of the zoning 2857 03:00:00,368 --> 03:00:03,248 on Metrolinx is site you know even if it was 2858 03:00:03,248 --> 03:00:07,258 that they were intent on per perhaps retaining this site 2859 03:00:07,258 --> 03:00:11,708 for purposes but as owning change wouldn't hamper their ability 2860 03:00:11,708 --> 03:00:14,148 to develop on that site you know given there are 2861 03:00:14,568 --> 03:00:17,818 other with the crown status and some of the zoning 2862 03:00:17,818 --> 03:00:20,548 changes on their sites doesn't 2863 03:00:20,548 --> 03:00:24,158 it's hindered their ability to develop as the C. fits 2864 03:00:24,158 --> 03:00:26,198 on on the property as well 2865 03:00:26,198 --> 03:00:27,598 thank you 2866 03:00:27,598 --> 03:00:30,728 okay thanks very much looking forward to it 2867 03:00:30,728 --> 03:00:39,738 okay next up is councillor Dhillon 2868 03:00:39,738 --> 03:00:42,158 it's just a neighbor 2869 03:00:42,158 --> 03:00:46,698 okay councillor Willhans 2870 03:00:46,698 --> 03:00:49,298 thank you through you Mayor constable actually asked the most 2871 03:00:49,328 --> 03:00:53,598 questions I just wanna thank John for coming into a 2872 03:00:53,598 --> 03:00:56,528 new standard Jody parks who worked with US left and 2873 03:00:56,528 --> 03:00:59,918 actually it's kind of ironic she's gone to battling says 2874 03:00:59,918 --> 03:01:04,098 there's just change your condition strategic engagement so I guess 2875 03:01:04,098 --> 03:01:06,208 it's kind of a win win for Brampton so I'm 2876 03:01:06,208 --> 03:01:08,898 Jody in the area we're having lunch is coming to 2877 03:01:08,898 --> 03:01:12,808 our town council thanks very much for coming in 2878 03:01:12,808 --> 03:01:17,398 thank you counsel thank you ours are my 2879 03:01:17,398 --> 03:01:18,598 2880 03:01:18,598 --> 03:01:21,938 how many question ... now that we've exhausted the list 2881 03:01:22,248 --> 03:01:25,258 I just want to see thank you ... this is 2882 03:01:25,378 --> 03:01:27,798 incredible news for our city it's not every day that 2883 03:01:27,798 --> 03:01:31,688 you have a hundred million dollar investment in your downtown 2884 03:01:32,258 --> 03:01:35,398 and everything economic development is talking to this talked about 2885 03:01:35,398 --> 03:01:38,698 over the last two years is creating a space for 2886 03:01:38,698 --> 03:01:42,168 high tech jobs the future in our downtown this is 2887 03:01:42,168 --> 03:01:47,488 one of Canada's largest most successful tech companies ... these 2888 03:01:47,888 --> 03:01:52,588 thousands of employees are gonna need local restaurants and shops 2889 03:01:52,828 --> 03:01:56,078 nearby it's gonna have a spin off across the downtown 2890 03:01:56,328 --> 03:02:01,018 so I can't understate ... how significant this is it's 2891 03:02:01,018 --> 03:02:05,928 transformative for downtown it's ... we've got a tough going 2892 03:02:05,928 --> 03:02:08,448 to downtown Indy and we're working on a number of 2893 03:02:08,448 --> 03:02:10,958 key projects that are going to change the face of 2894 03:02:10,958 --> 03:02:14,628 our downtown will this project itself 2895 03:02:14,628 --> 03:02:18,698 is is going to have a huge a huge benefit 2896 03:02:18,938 --> 03:02:21,488 and I know there's excitement in in our downtowns I 2897 03:02:21,488 --> 03:02:25,058 want to say thank you ... to to to to 2898 03:02:25,058 --> 03:02:29,228 John ... it'll only a question I'd have for you 2899 03:02:29,228 --> 03:02:31,038 today 2900 03:02:31,038 --> 03:02:33,698 is on 2901 03:02:33,698 --> 03:02:37,598 how would you see Roger is working with other potential 2902 03:02:37,768 --> 03:02:42,368 synergies in our ... in our community in the downtown 2903 03:02:42,368 --> 03:02:44,918 no knowing some of the projects that are ongoing for 2904 03:02:44,918 --> 03:02:48,828 example I know Mohammed lashed me at Ryerson is looking 2905 03:02:48,828 --> 03:02:52,458 at a med school potentially the downtown ... we've got 2906 03:02:52,518 --> 03:02:57,318 a significant activity ... in our start up a hub 2907 03:02:57,558 --> 03:03:01,338 ... in in the downtown ... how how was Rogers 2908 03:03:01,338 --> 03:03:06,658 historically ... interrelated and and worked with with other like 2909 03:03:06,658 --> 03:03:11,198 minded ... projects and and it will be opportunities for 2910 03:03:11,198 --> 03:03:16,438 that type of a collaboration with with with Rogers 2911 03:03:16,438 --> 03:03:19,208 yeah well certainly I mean that's part of the attraction 2912 03:03:19,208 --> 03:03:22,438 for downtown Brampton some of the work that has already 2913 03:03:22,438 --> 03:03:28,248 been done the with your innovation district ... in terms 2914 03:03:28,248 --> 03:03:32,638 of Ryerson ... there were school of management is named 2915 03:03:32,638 --> 03:03:36,948 after our founder and Rogers has a close relationship with 2916 03:03:36,978 --> 03:03:42,058 ... with Ryerson so ... we see this is sort 2917 03:03:42,058 --> 03:03:45,008 of bring a center of gravity which will attract more 2918 03:03:45,038 --> 03:03:49,708 and more innovation companies to come to downtown Brampton ... 2919 03:03:49,708 --> 03:03:54,068 we think it'll be ... ... very vibrant place for 2920 03:03:54,068 --> 03:03:56,648 our work place an arm up for our for our 2921 03:03:56,648 --> 03:04:02,418 employees ... and we look forward to collaborating with ... 2922 03:04:02,528 --> 03:04:07,458 Ryerson and with ... with the city of Brampton and 2923 03:04:07,948 --> 03:04:11,218 any new ... and a new company that would choose 2924 03:04:11,218 --> 03:04:16,318 to locate in in downtown correct 2925 03:04:16,318 --> 03:04:18,938 well John that is music to my ears those words 2926 03:04:18,938 --> 03:04:21,468 that are gonna stick with me a center of gravity 2927 03:04:21,468 --> 03:04:25,038 that will bring other investment ... we're talking about one 2928 03:04:25,038 --> 03:04:29,208 of Canada's iconic companies saying that they see our downtown 2929 03:04:29,208 --> 03:04:32,608 as a potential center of gravity to bring more investment 2930 03:04:32,868 --> 03:04:36,058 ... that they can help be a catalyst for so 2931 03:04:36,058 --> 03:04:40,708 as I said in this is ... incredible news thank 2932 03:04:40,708 --> 03:04:43,818 you for your friendship to the city of Brampton your 2933 03:04:43,818 --> 03:04:46,548 commitment to the city of Brampton and this is ... 2934 03:04:46,548 --> 03:04:51,308 ... very special day for our community ... 2935 03:04:51,308 --> 03:04:53,238 there's one more question and then we can receive the 2936 03:04:53,238 --> 03:04:57,548 delegations and go to the motion councillor Santos 2937 03:04:57,548 --> 03:05:00,158 thank you so much and through you Mr Mayor ... 2938 03:05:00,298 --> 03:05:03,678 thank you John for coming in today and for again 2939 03:05:03,678 --> 03:05:07,678 this exciting news I obviously share the excitement and sentiments 2940 03:05:07,958 --> 03:05:11,818 from colleagues and expects from me around just now ... 2941 03:05:11,848 --> 03:05:15,298 you know folks from downtown Brampton the businesses my phone 2942 03:05:15,298 --> 03:05:18,698 is going to be in because everyone is is incredibly 2943 03:05:18,698 --> 03:05:22,368 excited and supportive so thank you for taking the time 2944 03:05:22,368 --> 03:05:24,648 and I look forward to seeing this happen in our 2945 03:05:24,648 --> 03:05:28,208 downtown core as one of the local councillors ... that 2946 03:05:28,208 --> 03:05:31,648 that Rogers is that considered to be located at thank 2947 03:05:31,648 --> 03:05:33,138 you 2948 03:05:33,138 --> 03:05:37,738 thank you councillor Santos much appreciated okay ... soul motion 2949 03:05:37,738 --> 03:05:42,088 to receive the delegations ... ... moved by councillor Santos 2950 03:05:42,088 --> 03:05:45,948 seconded by council Madero's anyone ... opposed to receive the 2951 03:05:45,948 --> 03:05:52,178 delegations hearing none the delegations are receiving hours moved to 2952 03:05:52,378 --> 03:05:55,528 the so Mr Mayor the next vote would be on 2953 03:05:55,528 --> 03:05:58,818 receiving the correspondence fourteen point three and fourteen okay moved 2954 03:05:58,818 --> 03:06:02,248 by councillor ... Sante second by council Bowman to receive 2955 03:06:02,248 --> 03:06:09,968 the correspondence 2956 03:06:09,968 --> 03:06:12,598 so all downtown councillors are 2957 03:06:12,598 --> 03:06:16,218 referenced in the movers and second is 2958 03:06:16,218 --> 03:06:21,278 anyone opposed receiving the correspondence 2959 03:06:21,278 --> 03:06:24,048 sorry councillor Santos 2960 03:06:24,048 --> 03:06:26,758 ... may I suggest ... Mayor Brown that now would 2961 03:06:26,758 --> 03:06:29,388 be a good opportunity for us to bring forward a 2962 03:06:29,388 --> 03:06:32,398 motion that I believe staff have worked on 2963 03:06:32,398 --> 03:06:35,618 and considered as part of the correspondence 2964 03:06:35,618 --> 03:06:38,298 through you Mr Mayor ... yes it's it's appropriate actually 2965 03:06:38,298 --> 03:06:40,598 suggest first we finish the vote on the receiving the 2966 03:06:40,598 --> 03:06:43,178 correspondence and then we also have a motion to receive 2967 03:06:43,178 --> 03:06:45,148 the briefing of ten point four point one then move 2968 03:06:45,148 --> 03:06:48,568 to the motion introduction thank you Peter so anyone opposed 2969 03:06:48,568 --> 03:06:53,288 to ... receiving the correspondence Kerry none the correspondence is 2970 03:06:53,288 --> 03:06:58,128 received now we need a similar motion for the staff 2971 03:06:58,128 --> 03:06:59,428 report 2972 03:06:59,428 --> 03:07:04,948 but if you don't 2973 03:07:04,948 --> 03:07:07,858 okay received the briefing note from economic development moved by 2974 03:07:07,858 --> 03:07:13,428 council Passante secular cancer Dillon 2975 03:07:13,428 --> 03:07:17,138 in the proposed receiving the briefing note 2976 03:07:17,138 --> 03:07:20,658 hearing none the motion carries now this takes us to 2977 03:07:20,658 --> 03:07:22,118 the main 2978 03:07:22,118 --> 03:07:25,848 ... at zero our motion and I'm gonna suggest for 2979 03:07:25,848 --> 03:07:28,848 this given the significance of it that we have on 2980 03:07:29,138 --> 03:07:30,828 the I'd be happy to move it in the fall 2981 03:07:30,828 --> 03:07:37,368 of council could seconded 2982 03:07:37,368 --> 03:07:40,838 and get the car pull up that motion 2983 03:07:40,838 --> 03:07:44,378 this will bring on the screen momentarily 2984 03:07:44,378 --> 03:07:54,988 is a rather lengthy motion 2985 03:07:54,988 --> 03:07:58,728 Charlotte I believe it is with ... seven point two 2986 03:07:58,758 --> 03:08:03,758 seven point four 2987 03:08:03,758 --> 03:08:07,298 there we go to scroll down a bit 2988 03:08:07,298 --> 03:08:09,138 ... there we go that's the start of the motion 2989 03:08:09,508 --> 03:08:11,458 ... 2990 03:08:11,458 --> 03:08:14,478 so this motion I understand could prepared by ... planning 2991 03:08:14,478 --> 03:08:16,938 staff and 2992 03:08:16,938 --> 03:08:18,728 it's moved by the mayor seconded by all members of 2993 03:08:18,728 --> 03:08:20,978 council it is as I said I like the motion 2994 03:08:21,008 --> 03:08:22,698 ... 2995 03:08:22,698 --> 03:08:24,308 I don't know if if if it needs to be 2996 03:08:24,308 --> 03:08:26,258 read into the record of any members request that I 2997 03:08:26,258 --> 03:08:28,878 believe it's been emailed to all members of council in 2998 03:08:28,878 --> 03:08:31,558 this on our updated Jan it's not on the updated 2999 03:08:31,558 --> 03:08:38,088 Jan okay because I have been used 3000 03:08:38,088 --> 03:08:40,928 maybe just crawl slowly serve one of a chance to 3001 03:08:40,928 --> 03:08:51,098 read it 3002 03:09:57,208 --> 03:09:59,488 okay 3003 03:09:59,488 --> 03:10:03,028 has just recorded vote on this 3004 03:10:03,028 --> 03:10:06,328 members of council recorded votes been requested on the motion 3005 03:10:06,328 --> 03:10:08,838 as shown on the screen all in favor please indicate 3006 03:10:08,868 --> 03:10:10,418 councillor Dylan 3007 03:10:10,418 --> 03:10:12,068 in favor 3008 03:10:12,068 --> 03:10:13,758 councillor Singh 3009 03:10:13,758 --> 03:10:17,958 they were councillor Fortini 3010 03:10:17,958 --> 03:10:19,758 councillor Williams 3011 03:10:19,758 --> 03:10:22,908 yes in favor councillor Medeiros 3012 03:10:22,908 --> 03:10:25,508 yes councillor Bowman 3013 03:10:25,508 --> 03:10:26,488 yeah 3014 03:10:26,488 --> 03:10:29,438 councillor Palleschi 3015 03:10:29,438 --> 03:10:32,738 councillor Willhans 3016 03:10:32,738 --> 03:10:40,358 councillor Sunday paper councillor Santos 3017 03:10:40,358 --> 03:10:43,268 in favor Mayor Brown 3018 03:10:43,268 --> 03:10:47,408 in favor through the obstacle that motion carries unanimously eleven 3019 03:10:47,408 --> 03:10:48,878 to zero 3020 03:10:48,878 --> 03:10:52,688 okay thank you I canceled thank you too ... John 3021 03:10:52,688 --> 03:10:56,308 from Rogers and ... all the other ... presenters this 3022 03:10:56,308 --> 03:10:59,438 now takes us to government relations matters item eight point 3023 03:10:59,438 --> 03:11:00,838 one 3024 03:11:00,838 --> 03:11:08,158 Blaine Lucas offices CO as a presentation 3025 03:11:08,158 --> 03:11:12,558 thank you Mayor Brown the government relations matters a presentation 3026 03:11:12,558 --> 03:11:16,568 ... provide an operational awareness the council of regional of 3027 03:11:16,668 --> 03:11:19,728 provincial and federal government for the development of the record 3028 03:11:19,728 --> 03:11:21,368 for last week 3029 03:11:21,368 --> 03:11:25,398 we can move forward now under the deferred by 3030 03:11:25,398 --> 03:11:29,368 for example ... that means more and ... the committee 3031 03:11:29,558 --> 03:11:32,418 rebuilt committee will be scheduled for the first week of 3032 03:11:32,418 --> 03:11:33,658 February 3033 03:11:33,658 --> 03:11:36,548 the public thirteen and reviewed the retail in Canada and 3034 03:11:36,548 --> 03:11:39,748 it identified items of interest ... that we would ever 3035 03:11:39,748 --> 03:11:42,478 council today but we could move forward please on the 3036 03:11:42,478 --> 03:11:45,038 next play 3037 03:11:45,038 --> 03:11:47,958 we'll be 3038 03:11:47,958 --> 03:11:50,218 and the purpose and item at ten point one on 3039 03:11:50,218 --> 03:11:53,788 the regional down that if the report and presentation before 3040 03:11:53,788 --> 03:11:58,178 regional council to accept the port and further study ... 3041 03:11:58,238 --> 03:12:02,938 setting up potential vacant contact for the region appeal 3042 03:12:02,938 --> 03:12:04,968 I'm the planner at birth at the city have been 3043 03:12:04,968 --> 03:12:08,168 done ... indicated that ... the roof to early at 3044 03:12:08,168 --> 03:12:11,088 the time to include whether or vacant home tax would 3045 03:12:11,088 --> 03:12:14,428 be of benefit to them on a city staff report 3046 03:12:14,628 --> 03:12:18,338 for the study at the time to identify potential outcomes 3047 03:12:18,338 --> 03:12:21,698 he didn't wish to move forward with the implementation 3048 03:12:21,698 --> 03:12:23,628 I would note that if the reading off but I 3049 03:12:23,628 --> 03:12:27,428 think my attacks at the require provincial approval prior experience 3050 03:12:27,588 --> 03:12:29,338 ... implementation 3051 03:12:29,338 --> 03:12:36,638 we can more importantly on the next one 3052 03:12:36,638 --> 03:12:39,458 ... locally to bring to your attention ... rebuild an 3053 03:12:39,458 --> 03:12:43,808 item sixteen point one ... it the the capital regional 3054 03:12:43,808 --> 03:12:46,658 council retrieving an update on the highway for thirteen for 3055 03:12:46,658 --> 03:12:50,468 the impact of the protests in respective mission into the 3056 03:12:50,468 --> 03:12:54,018 and ... empfiehlt complication Copa 3057 03:12:54,018 --> 03:12:56,628 the staff have engaged ... with the MTO in late 3058 03:12:56,628 --> 03:12:59,688 twenty twenty one to provide local commentary and documentation of 3059 03:12:59,748 --> 03:13:02,678 the think it's faithful Brampton 3060 03:13:02,678 --> 03:13:05,448 and that will continue to follow ... Calhoun correct and 3061 03:13:05,448 --> 03:13:09,398 really related to the four thirteen thirty five away 3062 03:13:09,398 --> 03:13:16,208 we can move forward athletes on the line by 3063 03:13:16,208 --> 03:13:19,568 apple are where the provincial government rethink dated the COVID 3064 03:13:19,568 --> 03:13:23,188 nineteen or thirteen people begin to the affected January thirty 3065 03:13:23,188 --> 03:13:26,718 first as part of a roof that plan with respect 3066 03:13:26,718 --> 03:13:30,628 contain a gradual lifting of vehicles will gather on January 3067 03:13:30,628 --> 03:13:34,658 thirty first and March fourteenth next objective stable and improving 3068 03:13:34,738 --> 03:13:36,448 health indicated 3069 03:13:36,448 --> 03:13:42,268 we can move forward on the next slide please 3070 03:13:42,268 --> 03:13:45,588 3071 03:13:45,588 --> 03:13:48,138 for example the Mayor Brown will be speaking at the 3072 03:13:48,138 --> 03:13:51,638 front Danny committee on finance and economic affairs later this 3073 03:13:51,638 --> 03:13:53,068 afternoon 3074 03:13:53,068 --> 03:13:56,338 the patient will focus on two primary themes of the 3075 03:13:56,338 --> 03:14:00,758 province's economic statement ... transit and health care 3076 03:14:00,758 --> 03:14:03,638 it keeps ... being is that the transfer the next 3077 03:14:03,908 --> 03:14:07,558 up but to play real transit but rapid transit and 3078 03:14:07,558 --> 03:14:12,078 the electrification of the third transit facility 3079 03:14:12,078 --> 03:14:14,398 we could move on to the next slide please 3080 03:14:14,398 --> 03:14:15,568 and 3081 03:14:15,568 --> 03:14:18,628 I continue to be presented will be Brampton healthcare sector 3082 03:14:18,738 --> 03:14:22,908 and project that will improve local healthcare system locally ... 3083 03:14:22,968 --> 03:14:26,898 regeneration do you think the clear the approval implementation of 3084 03:14:26,898 --> 03:14:31,498 ... ... Burton university of Brampton's school of medicine no 3085 03:14:31,498 --> 03:14:35,378 more of a few banks and building ... planning for 3086 03:14:35,378 --> 03:14:38,228 the third both of a couple in approval for the 3087 03:14:38,228 --> 03:14:41,468 proposed camp ... cancer center 3088 03:14:41,468 --> 03:14:46,348 we could move forward now on to the next 3089 03:14:46,348 --> 03:14:49,848 in addition to the ... the document presentation obtaining committee 3090 03:14:49,908 --> 03:14:52,998 the public fifteen continue to work on the city formal 3091 03:14:52,998 --> 03:14:55,668 pre budget submission to the problem 3092 03:14:55,668 --> 03:14:58,068 Mr will be expensive and contain a list to keep 3093 03:14:58,148 --> 03:15:02,888 ... projects ranging from infrastructure the community building and educational 3094 03:15:02,888 --> 03:15:06,978 initiatives the commission due by February eleventh ... twenty twenty 3095 03:15:06,978 --> 03:15:10,728 two and we're on track to ensure that the apple 3096 03:15:10,768 --> 03:15:12,648 ready for me 3097 03:15:12,648 --> 03:15:16,958 we can move towards the front of the next 5 3098 03:15:16,958 --> 03:15:19,878 the next fifty five outlined other developments occurring at the 3099 03:15:19,878 --> 03:15:22,758 provincial level for council to learn 3100 03:15:22,758 --> 03:15:25,428 of these public to note the divisional funding announced by 3101 03:15:25,428 --> 03:15:29,588 the provincial government during it Jose Clement last week that 3102 03:15:29,588 --> 03:15:33,528 includes the municipality to modernize and accelerate growth of for 3103 03:15:33,528 --> 03:15:37,338 managing and approving of the application 3104 03:15:37,338 --> 03:15:40,868 the next slide please 3105 03:15:40,868 --> 03:15:43,018 but also like to highlight in response to the committee 3106 03:15:43,018 --> 03:15:45,978 of interest last week with the recent changes made to 3107 03:15:45,978 --> 03:15:48,928 Ontario he lives in protest 3108 03:15:48,928 --> 03:15:52,868 never component mainly parallel parking three point turn and roadside 3109 03:15:52,868 --> 03:15:56,328 stop being Templar moved from the G. like G. life 3110 03:15:56,328 --> 03:15:59,348 and protecting to allow for the province to address the 3111 03:15:59,348 --> 03:16:02,818 backlog of ten as a result of COVID nineteen 3112 03:16:02,818 --> 03:16:04,848 it's changes being 3113 03:16:04,848 --> 03:16:07,108 the book of by the province of the remaining part 3114 03:16:07,108 --> 03:16:09,898 of the G. to license protest will be in effect 3115 03:16:09,898 --> 03:16:14,018 at least ... from March thirty first may be extended 3116 03:16:14,048 --> 03:16:16,538 if enough of their 3117 03:16:16,538 --> 03:16:21,388 it change with our provincial announcement ... late last year 3118 03:16:21,388 --> 03:16:24,868 that required drive replacement ... driver's license with the license 3119 03:16:24,868 --> 03:16:28,578 plate particularly ... be renewed by February twenty eight and 3120 03:16:28,578 --> 03:16:32,558 the number of life and folders until December thirty first 3121 03:16:32,558 --> 03:16:34,568 of the year 3122 03:16:34,568 --> 03:16:37,148 I think yesterday the current the government announced the creation 3123 03:16:37,148 --> 03:16:40,808 of a nearly ... entitled fields Craven care a new 3124 03:16:40,808 --> 03:16:44,758 crown agency that would will promote market trade and job 3125 03:16:44,758 --> 03:16:49,348 related training and curriculum standards 3126 03:16:49,348 --> 03:16:54,438 we can report on the next slide please 3127 03:16:54,438 --> 03:16:57,628 I would be under federal development of financing it at 3128 03:16:57,628 --> 03:17:00,278 the federal and provincial levels met to discuss a range 3129 03:17:00,278 --> 03:17:05,478 of items including taxation coordination in continued collaboration to combat 3130 03:17:05,508 --> 03:17:07,118 COVID nineteen 3131 03:17:07,118 --> 03:17:09,538 forty million dollars with the now for the federal government 3132 03:17:09,538 --> 03:17:14,708 to further address misinformation about COVID nineteen and baxeen 3133 03:17:14,708 --> 03:17:17,868 and also a of noted a memorandum of understanding with 3134 03:17:17,868 --> 03:17:21,098 briefly fine with the national centre for truth and reconciliation 3135 03:17:21,418 --> 03:17:25,758 outlining how and when Canada with characterful documents related to 3136 03:17:25,758 --> 03:17:29,308 the residential school the timing for relief the document will 3137 03:17:29,308 --> 03:17:33,738 be set by the national centre for truth and reconciliation 3138 03:17:33,738 --> 03:17:37,278 ... although the federal government retains the question on January 3139 03:17:37,278 --> 03:17:38,628 thirty first 3140 03:17:38,628 --> 03:17:40,838 hello the is a quick run down because I got 3141 03:17:40,838 --> 03:17:43,788 my really think presentation and I'm happy to take any 3142 03:17:43,788 --> 03:17:46,848 questions ... couple may have 3143 03:17:46,848 --> 03:17:49,198 okay thank you have a blade I don't see any 3144 03:17:49,368 --> 03:17:54,488 ... questions so a motion to receive the presentation moved 3145 03:17:54,488 --> 03:17:58,628 by councilmember Sante and seconded by councillor Fortini anyone opposed 3146 03:17:58,628 --> 03:18:02,848 to this motion hearing none the motion carries 3147 03:18:02,848 --> 03:18:07,398 this takes us to COVID nineteen a murder C. report 3148 03:18:07,788 --> 03:18:10,908 from the only update this week is that we are 3149 03:18:10,908 --> 03:18:14,118 preparing for the re opening ... it is scheduled for 3150 03:18:14,148 --> 03:18:18,508 January thirty first I'm told by ... our commissioner that 3151 03:18:18,508 --> 03:18:20,608 our rec centers and everything will be ready to go 3152 03:18:20,938 --> 03:18:23,208 on January thirty first it was been a tough month 3153 03:18:23,208 --> 03:18:26,318 with the lockdown and I want to thank members of 3154 03:18:26,468 --> 03:18:30,438 council who have all stepped up to help us showcase 3155 03:18:30,438 --> 03:18:33,318 the wonderful outdoor amenities that we have in the city 3156 03:18:33,598 --> 03:18:36,728 and distract from the help the share some great videos 3157 03:18:36,958 --> 03:18:40,988 ... across ... the city on outdoor amenities and maybe 3158 03:18:40,988 --> 03:18:44,228 folks didn't know about so it was ... and enter 3159 03:18:44,228 --> 03:18:47,758 interesting exercise ... where 3160 03:18:47,758 --> 03:18:51,378 we were ... going on the two position because the 3161 03:18:51,408 --> 03:18:54,948 ... Park with cancer Fortini and Williams ... ... to 3162 03:18:54,948 --> 03:19:00,518 bargaining with a counselor Palevsky Santos and the Sante ... 3163 03:19:00,858 --> 03:19:03,088 I even took Theodoro for the first time to do 3164 03:19:03,088 --> 03:19:06,958 tobogganing as ... a hill that ... cancer Palleschi I 3165 03:19:06,958 --> 03:19:10,908 showed me a snow showing with councillor ... Bowman and 3166 03:19:10,978 --> 03:19:14,348 ... Maduro's ... going to an ice skating rink with 3167 03:19:14,398 --> 03:19:18,708 councillor Singh and councillor Willhans that tells me that we're 3168 03:19:18,708 --> 03:19:21,528 gonna find the V. across country as ski spot still 3169 03:19:21,528 --> 03:19:23,798 the promoter I know cancer Dillon is a look at 3170 03:19:23,798 --> 03:19:26,178 it and ideas well so everyone has stepped up to 3171 03:19:26,178 --> 03:19:29,508 help showcase outdoor amenities which are great for mental health 3172 03:19:29,828 --> 03:19:34,188 and physical health ... I should also note we hit 3173 03:19:34,188 --> 03:19:36,878 a milestone in peel region we're now and over ninety 3174 03:19:36,878 --> 03:19:40,958 percent vaccinated over twelve and we're gonna keep on going 3175 03:19:40,958 --> 03:19:43,388 but that's a number that much of the world would 3176 03:19:43,388 --> 03:19:48,638 die ... envy ... and I should also add we're 3177 03:19:48,638 --> 03:19:52,428 going to be watching more doses after dark number that 3178 03:19:52,638 --> 03:19:56,178 all night session the doctor loaded ... last year well 3179 03:19:56,178 --> 03:19:58,778 he's about to start another one it'll be an early 3180 03:19:58,988 --> 03:20:04,118 ... February and I also want to think ... 3181 03:20:04,118 --> 03:20:07,018 councillor thank members of council who have set an example 3182 03:20:07,018 --> 03:20:07,738 I believe it's 3183 03:20:07,738 --> 03:20:11,228 now official that everyone has declared their vaccination status and 3184 03:20:11,228 --> 03:20:15,548 we have a council that is fully vaccinated and setting 3185 03:20:15,548 --> 03:20:18,948 an example for the city that we believe in science 3186 03:20:18,948 --> 03:20:23,438 and protecting our community so that's a quick COVID nineteen 3187 03:20:23,488 --> 03:20:30,158 ... update I see there's a question from councillor Willhans 3188 03:20:30,158 --> 03:20:32,038 yes 3189 03:20:32,038 --> 03:20:34,798 Mr Mayor I'd stepped away and I didn't catch the 3190 03:20:34,798 --> 03:20:37,668 end of lands presentation but I wanted to just reiterate 3191 03:20:37,668 --> 03:20:41,448 the fact that this council didn't reconsider the motion I 3192 03:20:41,448 --> 03:20:45,638 want to I'm wondering if staff can work with plain 3193 03:20:45,638 --> 03:20:48,418 I work with them as well to send ... firm 3194 03:20:48,418 --> 03:20:51,898 stance on the Boulevard through each ice back to the 3195 03:20:51,898 --> 03:20:54,878 province has a little taken back by the media recess 3196 03:20:54,878 --> 03:20:57,898 often brag meet us to carry on he and his 3197 03:20:57,898 --> 03:21:01,758 stance on pushing the highway forward and not not entertain 3198 03:21:01,758 --> 03:21:04,318 the thought of our ... Public Works what what that 3199 03:21:04,898 --> 03:21:07,638 could be made like a letter sent from a public 3200 03:21:07,638 --> 03:21:10,128 relations to the province the heart that our stance is 3201 03:21:10,128 --> 03:21:12,278 still the Boulevard 3202 03:21:12,278 --> 03:21:16,468 coming through thank you councillor Willhans ... let me see 3203 03:21:16,498 --> 03:21:20,128 ... that I'd be happy to ... write a letter 3204 03:21:20,128 --> 03:21:22,678 with the help of government relations to that effect ... 3205 03:21:22,678 --> 03:21:24,848 she think we should give up on the Boulevard yet 3206 03:21:25,188 --> 03:21:29,568 I had a conversation with problem it's a Korea ... 3207 03:21:29,598 --> 03:21:32,238 I built that the letter I did that article in 3208 03:21:32,238 --> 03:21:35,728 the guardian and he said those were old ... quotes 3209 03:21:35,728 --> 03:21:37,908 that he hadn't spoken to the guardian in a in 3210 03:21:37,908 --> 03:21:42,558 a month ... and ... that ... ... he would 3211 03:21:42,558 --> 03:21:46,028 always help us a push a Brampton idea and he 3212 03:21:46,028 --> 03:21:48,858 said ... he's not say never he just saying they're 3213 03:21:48,858 --> 03:21:51,998 saying no right now ... in Seoul where we will 3214 03:21:51,998 --> 03:21:54,688 continue to push and be relentless like we have another 3215 03:21:54,688 --> 03:21:58,288 issues I continue to believe that the urban Boulevard is 3216 03:21:58,288 --> 03:22:02,488 that the best approach and I would absolutely agree with 3217 03:22:02,488 --> 03:22:06,598 your request to ... ... write a letter and aggressively 3218 03:22:06,598 --> 03:22:09,378 pursue that 3219 03:22:09,378 --> 03:22:12,078 I council 3220 03:22:12,078 --> 03:22:14,868 thank you through you Mayor ... I'm not finished yet 3221 03:22:14,868 --> 03:22:18,118 if you don't mind ... it's great single government relations 3222 03:22:18,118 --> 03:22:20,948 but I'd like to have a staff of input staff 3223 03:22:20,948 --> 03:22:24,448 from our planning for our planning process he did a 3224 03:22:24,448 --> 03:22:28,218 lot of work this area I think there input should 3225 03:22:28,218 --> 03:22:30,188 be great not just a letter coming to my public 3226 03:22:30,188 --> 03:22:32,838 relations not for sure 3227 03:22:32,838 --> 03:22:37,868 I think that so that would be as soon actually 3228 03:22:37,868 --> 03:22:43,208 are you are you guys anything else council's 3229 03:22:43,208 --> 03:22:44,408 thanks 3230 03:22:44,408 --> 03:22:49,858 thanks for that suggestion I councillor Santos 3231 03:22:49,858 --> 03:22:53,458 thank you and through you Mr Mayor it was that 3232 03:22:53,458 --> 03:22:57,258 fun to bargaining down major oaks and that colliding with 3233 03:22:57,258 --> 03:23:01,938 that my work counter dissenting the other day and certainly 3234 03:23:02,228 --> 03:23:04,918 ... you know I think that we've all been doing 3235 03:23:04,918 --> 03:23:08,098 a good job of promoting and pivot thing to outdoor 3236 03:23:08,098 --> 03:23:11,328 activities in the winter in Brampton that being said that 3237 03:23:11,358 --> 03:23:17,088 I just wanted to that extent thanks and appreciation to 3238 03:23:17,088 --> 03:23:20,478 the parks and recreation team and staff at the city 3239 03:23:20,768 --> 03:23:24,348 who continued to pave it and it just ... and 3240 03:23:24,348 --> 03:23:28,348 create sat you know new innovative programs activities for residents 3241 03:23:28,728 --> 03:23:33,068 ... on such short notice and they accommodated to ... 3242 03:23:33,098 --> 03:23:36,888 you know it's seamless transition during really difficult times not 3243 03:23:36,888 --> 03:23:40,428 just over the past month at the throughout the entire 3244 03:23:40,428 --> 03:23:43,768 pandemics so big shout out on the team for your 3245 03:23:43,768 --> 03:23:47,068 tremendous work thanks Mr Mayor 3246 03:23:47,068 --> 03:23:48,628 thank you for a reason I'm I meant to say 3247 03:23:48,628 --> 03:23:51,438 that councillor Santos the parks and rec staff and it 3248 03:23:51,568 --> 03:23:55,038 had been phenomenal during this ... a lockdown and have 3249 03:23:55,038 --> 03:24:00,588 really ... as helped us enhance ... outdoor amenities impossibilities 3250 03:24:00,588 --> 03:24:03,968 I think I probably ... gave Meriah 3251 03:24:03,968 --> 03:24:07,098 at gray hair a few times suggesting different ideas but 3252 03:24:07,098 --> 03:24:10,428 ... I wanna thank them for their ... indulgence from 3253 03:24:10,598 --> 03:24:13,078 everything from clearing trails in the midst of a snow 3254 03:24:13,078 --> 03:24:16,628 storm to a trying to remove snow off soccer fields 3255 03:24:16,628 --> 03:24:21,138 to ... new ... ice skating amenities they've been fantastic 3256 03:24:21,138 --> 03:24:24,088 ... showed for parks and rec staff they are phenomenal 3257 03:24:24,258 --> 03:24:25,728 ... 3258 03:24:25,728 --> 03:24:28,818 thank you ... I don't see any other questions for 3259 03:24:28,818 --> 03:24:31,748 our corporate update so motion moved by councillor Santos second 3260 03:24:31,748 --> 03:24:38,088 by councillor Willhans to receive the COVID nineteen emergency report 3261 03:24:38,088 --> 03:24:43,228 anyone opposed hearing none of the motion carries 3262 03:24:43,228 --> 03:24:47,378 now I believe ... to the court everything is in 3263 03:24:47,378 --> 03:24:49,728 consent until 3264 03:24:49,728 --> 03:24:51,778 the next item is ten point three point one point 3265 03:24:51,778 --> 03:24:55,578 three one yeah councillor Bowman 3266 03:24:55,578 --> 03:24:57,548 thank you very much through you Mr Merrill try to 3267 03:24:57,548 --> 03:25:00,528 be very brief on this ... thank you very much 3268 03:25:00,528 --> 03:25:03,428 thank you for putting this together ... I just want 3269 03:25:03,428 --> 03:25:05,908 to talk about some of the numbers on your for 3270 03:25:05,908 --> 03:25:08,798 the critical attraction and these are only six months members 3271 03:25:08,798 --> 03:25:11,838 right hello how long will it be before we get 3272 03:25:11,838 --> 03:25:15,628 the final numbers for the year 3273 03:25:15,628 --> 03:25:19,098 through the chair this is Stephanie Ortiz the atmospheric senior 3274 03:25:19,098 --> 03:25:23,058 adviser to the compensation on behalf of yeah 3275 03:25:23,058 --> 03:25:26,118 we expect the final numbers for twenty twenty one to 3276 03:25:26,118 --> 03:25:29,878 be released within the next item bunkers 3277 03:25:29,878 --> 03:25:33,768 and just to provide a preliminary update ... we do 3278 03:25:33,768 --> 03:25:37,208 expect the total number of employees that have been approved 3279 03:25:37,208 --> 03:25:40,208 business case to land around twenty or twenty one which 3280 03:25:40,208 --> 03:25:44,898 is similar to the twenty eighteen nineteen and twenty twenty 3281 03:25:44,898 --> 03:25:47,258 okay then that's that's where we sit right now right 3282 03:25:47,288 --> 03:25:52,028 total incidents of twenty 3283 03:25:52,028 --> 03:25:55,608 I see sixteen approved critical business cases so far correct 3284 03:25:56,128 --> 03:25:57,388 correct 3285 03:25:57,388 --> 03:25:59,058 okay in 3286 03:25:59,058 --> 03:26:02,608 nine point one percent just through the first six months 3287 03:26:02,608 --> 03:26:06,178 do you have an idea if that's gonna increase or 3288 03:26:06,178 --> 03:26:09,478 not or critical traction number of employees in the next 3289 03:26:09,478 --> 03:26:10,848 six months 3290 03:26:10,848 --> 03:26:13,248 ... the chair ... I believe there was only one 3291 03:26:13,278 --> 03:26:16,418 additional critical attraction 3292 03:26:16,418 --> 03:26:19,008 for the second half of the year 3293 03:26:19,008 --> 03:26:21,008 there was a lot of activity in the first six 3294 03:26:21,008 --> 03:26:25,428 months did drop significantly ... in the last six months 3295 03:26:25,428 --> 03:26:26,878 to a year 3296 03:26:26,878 --> 03:26:29,978 okay this was so that'll put us up around ten 3297 03:26:29,978 --> 03:26:35,358 percent of all the eligible employees received a critical attraction 3298 03:26:35,758 --> 03:26:40,448 ... I don't want to call a bonus but appear 3299 03:26:40,448 --> 03:26:43,888 through the chair it gets completed as the number of 3300 03:26:44,398 --> 03:26:47,688 employees who were hired about midpoint 3301 03:26:47,688 --> 03:26:49,588 new hires in that 3302 03:26:49,588 --> 03:26:53,088 so eight it will increase ... that number slightly but 3303 03:26:53,088 --> 03:26:56,008 it shouldn't be a significant increase I I believe it'll 3304 03:26:56,008 --> 03:26:59,458 still be below are closer to nine percent 3305 03:26:59,458 --> 03:27:04,468 okay ... does this is this just money it's not 3306 03:27:04,498 --> 03:27:10,778 benefits it's it's just whatever Hey 3307 03:27:10,778 --> 03:27:14,418 okay so the number that struck me in the reason 3308 03:27:14,418 --> 03:27:16,708 I wanted to hold this was that the city is 3309 03:27:16,708 --> 03:27:19,558 on track to exceed the average they've had for the 3310 03:27:19,558 --> 03:27:23,628 past three years by about forty five percent and that's 3311 03:27:23,708 --> 03:27:26,868 that's during the COVID years well is that 3312 03:27:26,868 --> 03:27:29,168 at eight can you explain to me why we had 3313 03:27:29,168 --> 03:27:32,808 that many ... that would put us such a such 3314 03:27:32,808 --> 03:27:36,288 a far way ahead of the previous three years through 3315 03:27:36,288 --> 03:27:39,828 the chair yes so based on just the activity from 3316 03:27:39,828 --> 03:27:43,348 January to June we did have ... a higher than 3317 03:27:43,348 --> 03:27:48,378 usual ... incidences for that six month period but that 3318 03:27:48,378 --> 03:27:52,268 was definitely offsets in the last six months so that 3319 03:27:52,268 --> 03:27:54,528 the total amount will be around twenty or twenty one 3320 03:27:54,528 --> 03:27:57,548 for the full year and that's very much in line 3321 03:27:57,548 --> 03:28:01,878 with the average from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty so 3322 03:28:01,878 --> 03:28:04,378 since the inception of this program 3323 03:28:04,378 --> 03:28:08,618 okay interest final question is do we do we have 3324 03:28:08,618 --> 03:28:13,248 Saturday we keep stats on the number of critical attraction 3325 03:28:13,248 --> 03:28:16,358 that we tried to keep and walks 3326 03:28:16,358 --> 03:28:19,558 we we have been tracking the thought that ... something 3327 03:28:19,558 --> 03:28:23,228 that we need to review our 3328 03:28:23,228 --> 03:28:25,478 I think I don't have it right off the top 3329 03:28:25,478 --> 03:28:27,988 of my head here by ten we we do monitor 3330 03:28:27,988 --> 03:28:31,138 to see the effectiveness of those ads ... of you 3331 03:28:31,138 --> 03:28:34,218 think that the people I talk to because 3332 03:28:34,218 --> 03:28:36,778 okay I was just wondering if we had numbers of 3333 03:28:37,118 --> 03:28:41,988 of people actually laughed because ... the the critical traction 3334 03:28:42,058 --> 03:28:45,058 was not attractive enough for the 3335 03:28:45,058 --> 03:28:47,998 so I guess we'll I guess we'll see those numbers 3336 03:28:47,998 --> 03:28:50,838 another time okay thanks so much 3337 03:28:50,838 --> 03:28:54,888 okay thank you councillor 3338 03:28:54,888 --> 03:29:00,078 Bowman councillor the jurors 3339 03:29:00,078 --> 03:29:02,268 thank you through you Mayor and and I will the 3340 03:29:02,758 --> 03:29:04,998 one that says I think ... chargeable one touch on 3341 03:29:04,998 --> 03:29:06,798 some of the points and we're gonna be getting a 3342 03:29:06,798 --> 03:29:10,208 more complete information because I I I always have that 3343 03:29:10,428 --> 03:29:14,168 in the issue around the critical traction aspect and ... 3344 03:29:14,218 --> 03:29:17,718 again ... ... I got appropriate and stuff that you 3345 03:29:17,718 --> 03:29:21,238 know what ... that that that idea that that it's 3346 03:29:21,238 --> 03:29:25,308 very critical through positions ... maybe based on expertise or 3347 03:29:25,308 --> 03:29:28,688 someone I just hopefully that we're not applying this term 3348 03:29:28,688 --> 03:29:31,588 in a broad manner that it is a really skills 3349 03:29:31,588 --> 03:29:35,548 specific and ... it's always relative on in terms of 3350 03:29:35,608 --> 03:29:39,048 the view what's critical or not but ... it is 3351 03:29:39,048 --> 03:29:42,708 concerning that there's been a ... an upward trend in 3352 03:29:43,008 --> 03:29:47,908 the concern that the way ... let's say that ... 3353 03:29:48,218 --> 03:29:54,288 ... these ... a promotion and additional salary increases are 3354 03:29:54,288 --> 03:29:56,288 are given and I hope that they're not given in 3355 03:29:56,288 --> 03:29:59,138 the like manner that there is scrutiny there is ... 3356 03:29:59,168 --> 03:30:02,658 considerable discussion and there's trucks and balances us all like 3357 03:30:02,658 --> 03:30:04,818 my council will not wait for a more fulsome report 3358 03:30:04,818 --> 03:30:09,488 to come forward thank you 3359 03:30:09,488 --> 03:30:11,948 okay thank you counsel here so ... I have a 3360 03:30:11,948 --> 03:30:15,508 motion to receive his salary ministration policy similar into reporting 3361 03:30:15,508 --> 03:30:19,018 moved by council Bowman second by council euros anyone opposed 3362 03:30:19,018 --> 03:30:21,588 to this motion 3363 03:30:21,588 --> 03:30:23,578 another motion carried 3364 03:30:23,578 --> 03:30:25,948 now this takes us everything else is in consent all 3365 03:30:25,948 --> 03:30:33,458 the way until 3366 03:30:33,458 --> 03:30:37,888 for district council second thirteen point four and that's the 3367 03:30:38,088 --> 03:30:43,678 only other item before we have in camera correct 3368 03:30:43,678 --> 03:30:48,658 yes five referred matters and okay okay so ... I 3369 03:30:48,658 --> 03:30:51,258 think we can do this item and then break for 3370 03:30:51,258 --> 03:30:55,108 lunch and returned ... in in camera I don't want 3371 03:30:55,108 --> 03:30:57,378 probably wondering ... what time we're going to take a 3372 03:30:57,378 --> 03:31:05,508 lunch break so over to you councillor Santos 3373 03:31:05,508 --> 03:31:09,198 thank you so much ... and through you ... Mr 3374 03:31:09,298 --> 03:31:14,508 Clark ... I think I I just have some questions 3375 03:31:14,538 --> 03:31:17,908 in regards to the warehouses property as a whole I 3376 03:31:17,908 --> 03:31:23,548 know that during the budget discussion ... and in particularly 3377 03:31:23,578 --> 03:31:29,778 with respect to the amended our budget ... to 3378 03:31:29,778 --> 03:31:34,628 eight four D. at barn restoration out of reserve fund 3379 03:31:34,628 --> 03:31:38,978 for there were other questions that were coming out of 3380 03:31:38,978 --> 03:31:41,648 that discussion which I think are still unclear and I 3381 03:31:41,698 --> 03:31:46,098 answered so I am I'm looking for more complete information 3382 03:31:46,408 --> 03:31:49,948 regarding the property itself since it's located in ward one 3383 03:31:50,308 --> 03:31:54,798 and since those discussions I've been and receiving questions from 3384 03:31:54,878 --> 03:31:59,728 from residents but also non profit organizations ... seeking clarity 3385 03:31:59,998 --> 03:32:02,868 and that I don't know for sure if staff were 3386 03:32:02,868 --> 03:32:06,688 able to answer all these questions I think what I 3387 03:32:06,688 --> 03:32:09,878 might be looking for is ... you know a more 3388 03:32:09,908 --> 03:32:16,098 ... complete information report related just to the prepared house 3389 03:32:16,098 --> 03:32:20,748 property as a whole I'm so for example just say 3390 03:32:20,918 --> 03:32:23,778 you know questions to staff to do we know if 3391 03:32:23,778 --> 03:32:36,558 the the entire property is designated just for heritage 3392 03:32:36,558 --> 03:32:40,478 sure through to cancer Santos we need to have your 3393 03:32:40,478 --> 03:32:45,388 key online Republican support and just took quite some information 3394 03:32:45,388 --> 03:32:57,458 relating to the heritage planning matters on the site 3395 03:33:01,078 --> 03:33:03,878 it's a three Mr it seems like Bob you perhaps 3396 03:33:03,878 --> 03:33:06,728 isn't with us at this point in time notwithstanding because 3397 03:33:06,728 --> 03:33:09,518 being noted in the participants walk one hundred if there 3398 03:33:09,518 --> 03:33:11,798 if there is any stuff that's close to the the 3399 03:33:11,798 --> 03:33:14,998 heritage matters here that's a second comments off on on 3400 03:33:14,998 --> 03:33:16,088 the 3401 03:33:16,088 --> 03:33:18,558 because they have I I do have some other questions 3402 03:33:18,558 --> 03:33:21,528 but perhaps you could add that to the list ... 3403 03:33:21,608 --> 03:33:24,888 for staff to get back to some clarity ... as 3404 03:33:24,888 --> 03:33:28,668 well about how big the parcel of land is itself 3405 03:33:29,398 --> 03:33:34,738 ... and whether or not only heritage buildings or structures 3406 03:33:34,738 --> 03:33:39,068 can be put on that site ... and that and 3407 03:33:39,068 --> 03:33:42,658 then my next question is just in general so we 3408 03:33:42,658 --> 03:33:47,188 found out that the partnership agreement which ... I know 3409 03:33:47,188 --> 03:33:50,218 that the city's enter negotiations right now which principle very 3410 03:33:50,218 --> 03:33:53,088 house so I won't I will try my best not 3411 03:33:53,568 --> 03:33:58,258 to you and talk about the negotiation but what was 3412 03:33:58,258 --> 03:34:03,618 public was that the agreement ... has not been updated 3413 03:34:04,018 --> 03:34:07,338 in about twenty years I just want I just want 3414 03:34:07,338 --> 03:34:10,788 you to be to get clarification on that because there's 3415 03:34:10,788 --> 03:34:13,158 back and forth this too when it was updated when 3416 03:34:13,158 --> 03:34:14,638 it wasn't so 3417 03:34:14,638 --> 03:34:21,378 when when was that last updated 3418 03:34:21,378 --> 03:34:24,548 councillor Santos out through the chair it's a style ... 3419 03:34:24,578 --> 03:34:26,878 to my knowledge the last terms of reference that was 3420 03:34:26,878 --> 03:34:29,658 in front of council for approval and that we have 3421 03:34:29,658 --> 03:34:32,468 been following is a two thousand and two terms of 3422 03:34:32,468 --> 03:34:35,128 reference 3423 03:34:35,128 --> 03:34:38,008 okay so for twenty years there wasn't an agreement that 3424 03:34:38,408 --> 03:34:42,318 ... back to you the property again 3425 03:34:42,318 --> 03:34:50,298 how many projects during those 20 years have happened 3426 03:34:50,298 --> 03:34:54,598 like whether that's new buildings or I know there's a 3427 03:34:54,598 --> 03:34:57,408 giggling the budget it said that there was a conceivable 3428 03:34:57,408 --> 03:35:01,578 as well as the Pendergast log cabin ... are those 3429 03:35:01,578 --> 03:35:03,808 the only two projects or were there other things that 3430 03:35:03,808 --> 03:35:07,258 happened during the twenty years that that the partnership agreement 3431 03:35:07,258 --> 03:35:17,598 was not updated 3432 03:35:21,578 --> 03:35:24,838 yeah it means Barbara pardon me Sir it's very apologize 3433 03:35:24,838 --> 03:35:28,328 council through the chair ... we we can we can 3434 03:35:28,328 --> 03:35:32,138 provide a list two ... what's happened on the site 3435 03:35:32,138 --> 03:35:35,848 over the last twenty years as it relates to city 3436 03:35:35,848 --> 03:35:39,018 involvement don't have that available right now however we can 3437 03:35:39,018 --> 03:35:43,478 provide that so ... if if that's fine with us 3438 03:35:43,478 --> 03:35:47,238 we can send that information directly over to you 3439 03:35:47,238 --> 03:35:49,908 yeah it if you can report that back to to 3440 03:35:49,908 --> 03:35:53,738 council because I'd like to you know also get folks 3441 03:35:53,968 --> 03:35:58,188 residents and and whomever we're asking these questions ... some 3442 03:35:58,188 --> 03:36:02,218 clarity as well so you can add that to to 3443 03:36:02,218 --> 03:36:06,528 the list of questions for clarification on this particular topic 3444 03:36:06,528 --> 03:36:11,568 to come back to council when you have it I'm 3445 03:36:11,568 --> 03:36:14,758 my other question is is the 3446 03:36:14,758 --> 03:36:17,308 and this is not part of the negotiations for the 3447 03:36:17,308 --> 03:36:21,008 updated agreement after twenty years but during the twenty years 3448 03:36:21,008 --> 03:36:24,838 without that agreement do we know if if there were 3449 03:36:24,838 --> 03:36:29,398 any financial audited statements that risks that are available are 3450 03:36:29,398 --> 03:36:32,308 submitted because I checked the website I can't find any 3451 03:36:32,308 --> 03:36:42,798 audited statements 3452 03:36:46,788 --> 03:36:50,568 through the chair it's my parks again don't 3453 03:36:50,568 --> 03:36:53,558 I honestly don't know that ... we have that information 3454 03:36:53,558 --> 03:36:56,538 but ... let us look into that we can provide 3455 03:36:56,538 --> 03:36:59,978 that information back to you okay thank you Mike and 3456 03:36:59,978 --> 03:37:05,258 then I guess as we're talking about finances ... about 3457 03:37:05,408 --> 03:37:08,468 about this property ... 3458 03:37:08,468 --> 03:37:12,408 I'd like I know they were questioned about how how 3459 03:37:12,408 --> 03:37:15,538 some of the projects were paid for and I know 3460 03:37:15,538 --> 03:37:20,298 that the house burned it is currently budgeted ... for 3461 03:37:20,298 --> 03:37:22,718 up to two million or sorry for up to one 3462 03:37:22,718 --> 03:37:27,258 million dollars over the next two years ... and that's 3463 03:37:27,258 --> 03:37:32,098 two capital reserve number four ... but is it do 3464 03:37:32,098 --> 03:37:36,108 we know where the money came from for the other 3465 03:37:36,218 --> 03:37:41,648 ... projects that were initiated on that property in the 3466 03:37:41,648 --> 03:37:46,088 past thank you is there a specific line item that 3467 03:37:46,088 --> 03:37:51,488 says standard has log cabin or gazebo how did we 3468 03:37:51,488 --> 03:37:54,808 come up with the it just a little spending on 3469 03:37:54,808 --> 03:38:08,738 those projects ... you know over the past few years 3470 03:38:08,738 --> 03:38:11,648 hi again closer it's ... it's my park here I 3471 03:38:11,648 --> 03:38:15,688 would I would defer that question to ... hopefully someone 3472 03:38:15,688 --> 03:38:17,578 that might be on the call from finance that can 3473 03:38:17,578 --> 03:38:26,478 maybe provide a high level response that 3474 03:38:26,478 --> 03:38:32,668 okay I cannot censor 3475 03:38:32,668 --> 03:38:34,918 yeah it's okay I mean they 3476 03:38:34,918 --> 03:38:36,388 yep go head 3477 03:38:36,388 --> 03:38:40,638 yeah through the chair council's ... mark marketers ... so 3478 03:38:40,718 --> 03:38:45,038 the report projects approved ... throughout the years and I 3479 03:38:45,038 --> 03:38:48,548 believe they were ... tax base funded so reserve for 3480 03:38:48,548 --> 03:38:52,308 as well but through Mike's efforts in putting together a 3481 03:38:52,308 --> 03:38:54,968 chronology of what's happened over the last twenty years we 3482 03:38:54,968 --> 03:38:59,128 can identify the projects that supported that and the funding 3483 03:38:59,128 --> 03:39:03,708 sources as part of that report by 3484 03:39:03,708 --> 03:39:05,978 thank you and I think perhaps what would be ideal 3485 03:39:05,978 --> 03:39:09,148 is also to take a look ... just so that 3486 03:39:09,148 --> 03:39:14,628 for we have transparency and that you know ... Cleary 3487 03:39:15,108 --> 03:39:17,668 ... with respect to what's been going on with this 3488 03:39:17,668 --> 03:39:20,898 property because one point three million dollars according to the 3489 03:39:20,898 --> 03:39:24,868 conversation in the budget has already been spent up to 3490 03:39:24,868 --> 03:39:28,908 date on on the property to include those various projects 3491 03:39:28,908 --> 03:39:32,708 that I had mentioned ... and and it would be 3492 03:39:32,708 --> 03:39:37,998 great to get clarification on on you know 3493 03:39:37,998 --> 03:39:41,858 how how those decisions came to be like if if 3494 03:39:41,888 --> 03:39:46,998 all of these projects where the initiative of one organization 3495 03:39:47,358 --> 03:39:51,228 that ... we don't even know if they submitted audited 3496 03:39:51,228 --> 03:39:55,718 financial statements ... I'm also curious if we could find 3497 03:39:55,718 --> 03:40:01,098 out how much revenue ... is generated from that particular 3498 03:40:01,098 --> 03:40:05,268 property itself ... in addition to the other questions like 3499 03:40:05,268 --> 03:40:07,828 whether or not it's only designated heritage to be on 3500 03:40:08,358 --> 03:40:12,668 track ... yeah because I think they're they're just a 3501 03:40:12,668 --> 03:40:14,318 lot of 3502 03:40:14,318 --> 03:40:19,458 ... questions about the property and and and I appreciate 3503 03:40:19,458 --> 03:40:23,248 that you know the majority of the of the vote 3504 03:40:23,388 --> 03:40:28,348 was in favour to two painful or the at the 3505 03:40:28,348 --> 03:40:33,248 barn reconstruction ... but I think that there are still 3506 03:40:33,288 --> 03:40:38,298 some unclear answers related to what's been going on of 3507 03:40:38,298 --> 03:40:42,578 the property as a whole especially you know concerning that 3508 03:40:42,838 --> 03:40:45,758 for twenty years they haven't had an updated terms of 3509 03:40:45,758 --> 03:40:49,308 reference or agreement so so in terms of transparency and 3510 03:40:49,308 --> 03:40:53,048 accountability center I think I think we all went to 3511 03:40:53,048 --> 03:40:57,508 the public ... some clarity and information on what how 3512 03:40:57,508 --> 03:41:00,548 decisions have been made how many has been spent read 3513 03:41:00,548 --> 03:41:03,828 these initiatives came from it's set for in the past 3514 03:41:03,878 --> 03:41:07,388 I'm certainly getting it from residents in ward one and 3515 03:41:07,418 --> 03:41:11,318 and some nonprofit organizing shoes quite frankly who have to 3516 03:41:11,318 --> 03:41:15,168 go through a really vigorous pro status in order to 3517 03:41:15,168 --> 03:41:18,298 access funds like me we just went through an entire 3518 03:41:18,298 --> 03:41:22,198 debate about public art for example and how underfunded it 3519 03:41:22,228 --> 03:41:25,858 is ... and I know that through advanced Brampton find 3520 03:41:26,168 --> 03:41:29,808 many these nonprofit organizations have to it's a requirement to 3521 03:41:29,808 --> 03:41:34,498 submit audited statements ... and it's concerning that in this 3522 03:41:34,498 --> 03:41:38,258 particular case we don't even have a report yet in 3523 03:41:38,258 --> 03:41:41,698 terms of how that the million dollars is going to 3524 03:41:41,698 --> 03:41:44,618 be spent ... and and we don't even have a 3525 03:41:44,618 --> 03:41:49,138 an agreement ... and yet the million dollars is past 3526 03:41:49,168 --> 03:41:51,858 so so I just have one answer questions and and 3527 03:41:51,858 --> 03:41:54,988 if staff can please come back with with a more 3528 03:41:54,988 --> 03:42:00,018 wholesome TransCanada port on the property itself that would be 3529 03:42:00,358 --> 03:42:04,858 greatly appreciated thank you 3530 03:42:04,858 --> 03:42:13,518 thank you councillor Santos next up is cancer Whillans 3531 03:42:13,518 --> 03:42:15,038 cancel 3532 03:42:15,038 --> 03:42:22,498 Madeiros before me considers you in this item 3533 03:42:22,498 --> 03:42:25,658 I believe is the previous item 3534 03:42:25,658 --> 03:42:30,798 well I have an after concert Santos 3535 03:42:30,798 --> 03:42:36,168 councilman Joe so you item or the previous one 3536 03:42:36,168 --> 03:42:40,548 thank you okay council Hollins 3537 03:42:40,548 --> 03:42:43,148 ... since the report coming back I would like to 3538 03:42:43,148 --> 03:42:46,328 see also that report from our building designed to 3539 03:42:46,328 --> 03:42:48,558 when we came up with the numbers was it based 3540 03:42:48,558 --> 03:42:51,168 on a putting a rec center I like the building 3541 03:42:51,168 --> 03:42:53,908 today because I know one of the building code I 3542 03:42:53,908 --> 03:42:56,618 just wanna get clarification if the bar is not being 3543 03:42:56,618 --> 03:43:01,568 used for occupancy ... there's totally there's a totally different 3544 03:43:01,698 --> 03:43:04,938 set of building codes that are used obviously you've got 3545 03:43:04,938 --> 03:43:06,678 to make it safe but the whole inside of the 3546 03:43:06,678 --> 03:43:10,858 barn was not to be used for events as suggested 3547 03:43:10,858 --> 03:43:13,738 by ... I think some members of staff it was 3548 03:43:13,738 --> 03:43:15,838 not to be used for people who actually go through 3549 03:43:15,838 --> 03:43:17,938 it it's more of a viewing area for the artifacts 3550 03:43:17,938 --> 03:43:20,168 that are 3551 03:43:20,168 --> 03:43:23,608 ... and ... yeah I think that's the only concern 3552 03:43:23,608 --> 03:43:25,488 I would like to have I'm glad it's coming back 3553 03:43:25,488 --> 03:43:28,568 because I still clarifications as well and I believe that 3554 03:43:28,568 --> 03:43:33,038 the Blair house 3555 03:43:33,038 --> 03:43:38,388 a lot of early stalls portfolio around twenty sixteen twenty 3556 03:43:38,388 --> 03:43:40,858 seventeen we started to go up when we moved case 3557 03:43:40,858 --> 03:43:44,648 from our sculpture and I think it one under community 3558 03:43:44,648 --> 03:43:46,658 services and I think at that time the only thing 3559 03:43:46,658 --> 03:43:49,528 that we were funding when you were a stationary bike 3560 03:43:49,558 --> 03:43:52,258 ... and things like that to the need and I 3561 03:43:52,518 --> 03:43:56,048 think the budget was very high so as I'm concerned 3562 03:43:56,078 --> 03:43:58,678 ... as far as I know it between the two 3563 03:43:58,678 --> 03:44:02,278 they're they they put back into the into the potatoes 3564 03:44:02,278 --> 03:44:04,578 but I'm you know I could be wrong about that 3565 03:44:04,698 --> 03:44:14,558 there will be a report thank you 3566 03:44:14,558 --> 03:44:18,348 5 councillor Bowman 3567 03:44:18,348 --> 03:44:20,388 thank you very much for you Mister chair of them 3568 03:44:20,388 --> 03:44:23,548 we certainly seem to have a preoccupation with the open 3569 03:44:23,548 --> 03:44:27,208 house but that's fine ... Kelly what if I can 3570 03:44:27,208 --> 03:44:35,248 ask what's the yearly budget for a principal there helps 3571 03:44:35,248 --> 03:44:38,068 I cancel Bowman through the chair ... there isn't an 3572 03:44:38,068 --> 03:44:42,308 annual operating budget for the friends of Americans I believe 3573 03:44:42,308 --> 03:44:47,438 there is a operating budgets for the facility itself 3574 03:44:47,438 --> 03:44:49,568 I was details well you don't have those can you 3575 03:44:49,568 --> 03:44:54,018 bring those back if you if you can next time 3576 03:44:54,018 --> 03:44:56,508 through the check out so we can ensure that's included 3577 03:44:56,508 --> 03:45:00,208 in the list of details here okay 3578 03:45:00,208 --> 03:45:02,158 Kelly Wallace the gotcha one of the one of the 3579 03:45:02,158 --> 03:45:05,738 major issues we faced over the past twenty years with 3580 03:45:05,738 --> 03:45:15,208 the with us 3581 03:45:15,208 --> 03:45:18,438 I thank all the moment through that the chair to 3582 03:45:18,438 --> 03:45:22,398 my knowledge there hasn't been ... major issues faced with 3583 03:45:22,398 --> 03:45:25,628 their friends of Robert house we've been operating through the 3584 03:45:25,628 --> 03:45:29,168 terms of reference from two thousand and two and we 3585 03:45:29,168 --> 03:45:32,578 have been recently attracted by council to update that within 3586 03:45:32,578 --> 03:45:37,458 you memorandum of understanding an operating agreement for the property 3587 03:45:37,458 --> 03:45:41,478 so I can't speak to any ... concerns directly okay 3588 03:45:41,478 --> 03:45:42,988 in in the in on all in favor of the 3589 03:45:42,988 --> 03:45:45,598 actual you know I've been working with them over the 3590 03:45:45,598 --> 03:45:48,088 past number of years to try and get agreement hammered 3591 03:45:48,088 --> 03:45:51,028 out as well so ... I did I just wondered 3592 03:45:51,028 --> 03:45:53,818 because it just seems that this is such a critical 3593 03:45:53,818 --> 03:45:57,078 issue that you know for a for twenty years we 3594 03:45:57,078 --> 03:46:00,158 haven't had any major issues up with an agreement that's 3595 03:46:00,158 --> 03:46:03,088 been in place since two thousand two so I just 3596 03:46:03,088 --> 03:46:07,638 wanna make that clear and thanks thanks Kelly Mike Mike 3597 03:46:07,638 --> 03:46:11,578 parks 3598 03:46:11,578 --> 03:46:13,818 you still there like 3599 03:46:13,818 --> 03:46:17,188 through the chair I am councillor thanks who owns the 3600 03:46:17,468 --> 03:46:22,998 house 3601 03:46:22,998 --> 03:46:27,138 great question ... all the city the city so the 3602 03:46:27,138 --> 03:46:31,528 city assets so how do we done anything to alter 3603 03:46:31,558 --> 03:46:35,068 any of our city facilities over the past twenty years 3604 03:46:35,718 --> 03:46:38,958 in any other city facility that you can think of 3605 03:46:38,958 --> 03:46:42,318 you know something wasn't replaced 3606 03:46:42,318 --> 03:46:45,148 ... through the chair certainly counselor ... we do have 3607 03:46:45,148 --> 03:46:49,128 a fairly robust ... maintenance ... plan for all our 3608 03:46:49,128 --> 03:46:50,608 facilities 3609 03:46:50,608 --> 03:46:55,018 okay so for example ... the gazebo at the warehouse 3610 03:46:55,018 --> 03:46:59,888 which was which was mentioned previously ... if someone from 3611 03:46:59,888 --> 03:47:02,568 city staff went and saw that it was unsafe would 3612 03:47:02,618 --> 03:47:06,058 would that be deemed to have to be replaced 3613 03:47:06,058 --> 03:47:09,078 through the chair yes okay 3614 03:47:09,078 --> 03:47:11,108 no that's it that's all I wanted only to report 3615 03:47:11,108 --> 03:47:17,038 comes back to Mike thanks thanks very much 3616 03:47:17,038 --> 03:47:20,488 Mr Mayor okay thank you councillor Bowman that's up Wisconsin 3617 03:47:20,488 --> 03:47:23,148 Fortini 3618 03:47:23,148 --> 03:47:25,658 thank you Mr Mayor think killed Whillans arts of the 3619 03:47:26,048 --> 03:47:28,168 best some of my questions we just want to plus 3620 03:47:28,168 --> 03:47:39,968 one more when we purchased as part 3621 03:47:40,118 --> 03:47:43,328 councillor Fortini through the chair it's Mike parks ... as 3622 03:47:43,328 --> 03:47:46,618 I recall it wasn't a purchase it was actually donated 3623 03:47:47,168 --> 03:47:51,998 to the the city by the friends of a warehouse 3624 03:47:51,998 --> 03:47:55,568 so we support the sister virtual have it stored and 3625 03:47:55,698 --> 03:47:58,438 taken 3626 03:47:58,438 --> 03:48:01,178 through the chair yes we ... we have it stored 3627 03:48:01,208 --> 03:48:04,848 at one of our yard facilities ... 3628 03:48:04,848 --> 03:48:07,938 ... in the west end of the city of Santa 3629 03:48:07,938 --> 03:48:11,248 would ... Park we are yes so we supported to 3630 03:48:11,248 --> 03:48:13,518 get started keep it stored at all and we keep 3631 03:48:13,518 --> 03:48:17,238 going back and forth on this part yeah anyway always 3632 03:48:17,238 --> 03:48:19,098 for the report to come back so thank you so 3633 03:48:19,098 --> 03:48:22,708 much 3634 03:48:22,708 --> 03:48:25,908 okay 3635 03:48:25,908 --> 03:48:28,628 councillor Santos wrote a comment and the council plus you 3636 03:48:28,628 --> 03:48:30,958 call the question okay so there's no question because there's 3637 03:48:30,958 --> 03:48:34,138 no motion right three three research there is no motion 3638 03:48:34,358 --> 03:48:36,908 there's some request that they've made from individual members that 3639 03:48:36,908 --> 03:48:39,228 I presume staff for ... taking down but there's been 3640 03:48:39,228 --> 03:48:41,168 no motion introduced 3641 03:48:41,168 --> 03:48:44,358 okay then I would like to that M. and I'm 3642 03:48:44,358 --> 03:48:46,738 wondering if it is clear enough based on the debate 3643 03:48:46,738 --> 03:48:50,358 and discussion in terms of what information we are all 3644 03:48:50,358 --> 03:48:53,298 looking for so just back to you I guess that 3645 03:48:53,298 --> 03:48:56,748 might parks as well as Marc Madeiros and Kelly who 3646 03:48:56,748 --> 03:49:00,368 were response finding two different questions if I moved a 3647 03:49:00,368 --> 03:49:06,128 motion that a report ... regarding the apple fared house 3648 03:49:06,128 --> 03:49:11,288 property based on this discussion and questions from councillors today 3649 03:49:11,288 --> 03:49:16,038 be brought forward back to council ... and I'm wondering 3650 03:49:16,038 --> 03:49:20,068 if we could have that information ... within the next 3651 03:49:20,068 --> 03:49:24,578 month perhaps ... if that's a possibility I put that 3652 03:49:24,578 --> 03:49:27,398 out to you to Mike and Kelly as well as 3653 03:49:27,398 --> 03:49:31,678 mark and and perhaps that the whole team if based 3654 03:49:31,678 --> 03:49:35,118 on the discussion you have enough information to come back 3655 03:49:35,408 --> 03:49:40,318 with that what council is looking for 3656 03:49:40,318 --> 03:49:44,118 through the chair ... it's my party and and I'm 3657 03:49:44,118 --> 03:49:47,288 not to speak on behalf of mark and Kelly ... 3658 03:49:47,288 --> 03:49:50,818 but I think that that's doable ... I think ... 3659 03:49:50,818 --> 03:49:54,918 getting that direction from here today ... to have a 3660 03:49:54,918 --> 03:49:58,848 report brought back ... will be helpful and then ... 3661 03:49:59,348 --> 03:50:02,658 the team can get together and work or no preparing 3662 03:50:02,658 --> 03:50:08,858 that report and having it back to our committee Council 3663 03:50:08,858 --> 03:50:12,018 okay perfect thank you so much stopping for that that 3664 03:50:12,018 --> 03:50:15,908 motion and perhaps Alaska ... I don't know whoever wants 3665 03:50:15,908 --> 03:50:19,258 to second it sounded like cancer Bowman and cancer Fortini 3666 03:50:19,258 --> 03:50:22,168 work and cancer Williams were in favor of getting this 3667 03:50:22,168 --> 03:50:24,838 report back 3668 03:50:24,838 --> 03:50:26,988 I can second 3669 03:50:26,988 --> 03:50:33,448 okay councillor thank you to my partner okay councillor Bowman 3670 03:50:33,448 --> 03:50:36,248 thank you very much for a second time 3671 03:50:36,248 --> 03:50:39,748 but you know I'm not gonna support this motion only 3672 03:50:39,748 --> 03:50:43,098 because what are we comparing this to this is a 3673 03:50:43,098 --> 03:50:46,718 city owned assets so when we bring back a report 3674 03:50:46,718 --> 03:50:50,288 on how much it costs to to mow the grass 3675 03:50:50,288 --> 03:50:53,648 or or to ... you know to replace a gazebo 3676 03:50:53,648 --> 03:50:56,348 for example because that's been brought up what are we 3677 03:50:56,348 --> 03:50:59,358 comparing that to are we comparing it to every other 3678 03:50:59,358 --> 03:51:03,388 single park that we or or ... recreation center that 3679 03:51:03,388 --> 03:51:07,218 we own as a city why are we overlooking the 3680 03:51:07,218 --> 03:51:10,408 fact that this is a city owned assets and that 3681 03:51:10,438 --> 03:51:13,848 this has to be regarded the same way every other 3682 03:51:13,848 --> 03:51:17,338 city asset is regarded so I I'm not gonna support 3683 03:51:17,338 --> 03:51:20,988 this these answers can come back to us or or 3684 03:51:21,048 --> 03:51:24,148 individually or as a group but I'm not gonna support 3685 03:51:24,148 --> 03:51:27,228 sending stop away to come back with another report on 3686 03:51:27,228 --> 03:51:29,728 the city asset when we've got nothing to compare it 3687 03:51:29,798 --> 03:51:33,008 to in terms of all our other city assets across 3688 03:51:33,008 --> 03:51:37,488 the across the city thanks 3689 03:51:37,488 --> 03:51:41,168 okay councillor Fortini 3690 03:51:41,168 --> 03:51:43,068 okay if it kills a woman spoke for me thank 3691 03:51:43,068 --> 03:51:44,038 you 3692 03:51:44,038 --> 03:51:49,388 I was gonna say the same thing 3693 03:51:49,388 --> 03:51:52,208 I cancel Santos and cancer Santos I I would say 3694 03:51:52,208 --> 03:51:54,068 that I think staff person back they can get that 3695 03:51:54,068 --> 03:51:56,458 information to you may not need to be in the 3696 03:51:56,488 --> 03:52:00,058 form of a motion any councillor is eligible to ask 3697 03:52:00,058 --> 03:52:03,478 questions and get that type of information ... on their 3698 03:52:03,528 --> 03:52:05,298 on their okay 3699 03:52:05,298 --> 03:52:08,748 okay thank you very much ... so so if if 3700 03:52:08,748 --> 03:52:10,858 I can ask just as direction to staff and to 3701 03:52:10,858 --> 03:52:14,348 bring forward at a report on the property please that 3702 03:52:14,348 --> 03:52:17,618 would be greatly appreciated ... I guess if that's clear 3703 03:52:17,618 --> 03:52:20,208 then there is no motion that's required thanks for that 3704 03:52:20,208 --> 03:52:24,068 clarification Mister chair and look forward to receiving that information 3705 03:52:24,588 --> 03:52:29,368 okay that takes us to our correspondence 3706 03:52:29,368 --> 03:52:33,198 we've dealt with that with every restaurant Mayor sorry Mr 3707 03:52:33,198 --> 03:52:36,578 Mayor I'm on the board yes just regarding 3708 03:52:36,578 --> 03:52:40,408 so that there's been ... and I asked for a 3709 03:52:40,408 --> 03:52:45,208 report I councillors press there and ... opposition to a 3710 03:52:45,208 --> 03:52:48,498 report we haven't voted on it and a member can't 3711 03:52:48,498 --> 03:52:51,288 just ask for a report back to council when there 3712 03:52:51,288 --> 03:52:53,558 hasn't been a motion so the member can get all 3713 03:52:53,558 --> 03:52:56,598 the information to them like you rightly said ... they 3714 03:52:56,598 --> 03:52:58,938 can write the stock what do not report has been 3715 03:52:58,938 --> 03:53:03,268 requested to council maybe the city clerk advised ... you 3716 03:53:03,268 --> 03:53:05,288 know as far as I know there's no motion for 3717 03:53:05,288 --> 03:53:08,158 report back to council 3718 03:53:08,158 --> 03:53:10,928 the report back I can get that information directly from 3719 03:53:10,928 --> 03:53:13,678 stop as the member asking for the report back and 3720 03:53:13,958 --> 03:53:17,798 get that information from staff directly yes that's what I 3721 03:53:17,798 --> 03:53:19,788 was saying is there any member of council can get 3722 03:53:19,788 --> 03:53:22,078 that information on their own it does it does need 3723 03:53:22,078 --> 03:53:24,538 to be in the form of a a motion requesting 3724 03:53:24,538 --> 03:53:25,848 a report 3725 03:53:25,848 --> 03:53:27,638 but just to be clear we're not asking for any 3726 03:53:27,638 --> 03:53:30,428 report to come back to council no motions but no 3727 03:53:30,428 --> 03:53:34,488 motion's been task before in the report correct individual councillors 3728 03:53:34,488 --> 03:53:38,688 can get the information they need correct and all the 3729 03:53:38,688 --> 03:53:40,598 clerk there for that 3730 03:53:40,598 --> 03:53:43,698 through you Mr Mayor there is no motion placed ... 3731 03:53:43,768 --> 03:53:46,158 there are things that are referred to as council information 3732 03:53:46,158 --> 03:53:48,158 requested a member may make a comment that triggers a 3733 03:53:48,158 --> 03:53:50,768 request and staff we provide that information directly back to 3734 03:53:50,768 --> 03:53:54,078 the member of council if direction is being given direction 3735 03:53:54,078 --> 03:53:55,738 needs to be given in the form of a motion 3736 03:53:56,148 --> 03:53:58,268 my advice is and based on what I'm hearing is 3737 03:53:58,268 --> 03:54:00,798 there's been no motion introduced at this time so it's 3738 03:54:00,798 --> 03:54:03,468 just a request for information that would then ... would 3739 03:54:03,468 --> 03:54:06,348 be and ... staff would act identified that information provided 3740 03:54:06,348 --> 03:54:08,858 back to the councillors 3741 03:54:08,858 --> 03:54:12,228 I see the CEO just wants to speak on this 3742 03:54:12,228 --> 03:54:15,388 great thank you Mayor so staff is coming back with 3743 03:54:15,388 --> 03:54:19,708 the information related to this item generally speaking ... has 3744 03:54:19,708 --> 03:54:22,708 been referencing some questions with respect to any partnership agreement 3745 03:54:23,248 --> 03:54:25,828 ... we've been hearing plenty of questions so our intention 3746 03:54:25,828 --> 03:54:27,908 is to be clear in terms of managing expectations we 3747 03:54:27,908 --> 03:54:30,468 do need to come back to council to report on 3748 03:54:30,468 --> 03:54:33,348 this matter and our intentions to answer as many or 3749 03:54:33,348 --> 03:54:36,258 all of the questions as possible within that so the 3750 03:54:36,258 --> 03:54:39,558 council's fully formed within their decision making framework ... we 3751 03:54:39,558 --> 03:54:43,788 don't need a a resolution of council ... for direction 3752 03:54:43,988 --> 03:54:46,178 on a report that we would need a motion of 3753 03:54:46,178 --> 03:54:50,648 council direction that mobilizes resources so we're satisfied our intention 3754 03:54:50,648 --> 03:54:54,318 and on previous direction from council already is to in 3755 03:54:54,318 --> 03:54:56,408 fact come back I just want to manage expectations of 3756 03:54:56,408 --> 03:54:59,028 this group not to be surprised when there is an 3757 03:54:59,028 --> 03:55:02,328 agenda item we're providing this information and and ... on 3758 03:55:02,328 --> 03:55:05,638 to go to council partnership agreements including some of the 3759 03:55:05,638 --> 03:55:09,888 ancillary questions that have been ask around it 3760 03:55:09,888 --> 03:55:14,598 accounts Madeiros does that answer your question 3761 03:55:14,598 --> 03:55:19,548 yep okay okay moving on to the close this ticket 3762 03:55:19,548 --> 03:55:22,378 all the way to 3763 03:55:22,378 --> 03:55:24,418 referred matters list 3764 03:55:24,418 --> 03:55:26,388 are there 3765 03:55:26,388 --> 03:55:30,038 are there any members of questions 3766 03:55:30,038 --> 03:55:33,298 seeing none public question period there's a fifteen minute limit 3767 03:55:33,298 --> 03:55:36,608 on questions and the public is entitled to ask any 3768 03:55:36,608 --> 03:55:40,038 questions for decisions made today are there any questions 3769 03:55:40,038 --> 03:55:42,268 through you Mr Mayor I do not see any questions 3770 03:55:42,268 --> 03:55:46,318 for today's meeting agenda this takes us to bylaws ... 3771 03:55:46,318 --> 03:55:48,488 to give effect to council decisions made at this meeting 3772 03:55:48,488 --> 03:55:51,398 I have a motion moved by councillor Madeiros the second 3773 03:55:51,398 --> 03:55:53,398 by council plus you to approve the bylaws is there 3774 03:55:53,398 --> 03:55:55,918 anyone opposed to this motion the wiser vote will count 3775 03:55:55,918 --> 03:55:58,968 in the affirmative this is for bylaws one twenty twenty 3776 03:55:58,968 --> 03:56:01,908 two to twenty three twenty twenty two 3777 03:56:01,908 --> 03:56:04,708 is there any objections 3778 03:56:04,708 --> 03:56:08,078 hearing none the motion carries 3779 03:56:08,078 --> 03:56:10,528 our next item of business is item nineteen closed session 3780 03:56:10,528 --> 03:56:13,198 business I have a motion moved by councillor Willhans and 3781 03:56:13,198 --> 03:56:15,948 seconded by councilor Williams to move into closed session to 3782 03:56:15,948 --> 03:56:19,298 deal with the following items in the critical appointments through 3783 03:56:19,298 --> 03:56:21,268 you Mr Mayor to members of council there six items 3784 03:56:21,268 --> 03:56:24,498 for closed session ... item nine point six which is 3785 03:56:24,498 --> 03:56:26,698 an open meeting exception under section two thirty nine to 3786 03:56:26,698 --> 03:56:29,678 K. the Municipal Act the plan procedure criteria or instruction 3787 03:56:29,678 --> 03:56:31,658 to be applied to any negotiations carried on or to 3788 03:56:31,658 --> 03:56:33,908 be carried on by or on behalf of the municipality 3789 03:56:33,908 --> 03:56:37,338 or local board item nineteen point seven open meeting exception 3790 03:56:37,338 --> 03:56:39,668 under section two thirty nine to be an F. of 3791 03:56:39,668 --> 03:56:42,978 the municipal act litigation or potential litigation including matters before 3792 03:56:42,978 --> 03:56:46,588 administrative tribunals affecting the municipality or local board and advice 3793 03:56:46,588 --> 03:56:49,938 of subjects with your client privilege including communications necessary for 3794 03:56:49,938 --> 03:56:54,668 that purpose item nineteen point nine concession meeting exception under 3795 03:56:54,668 --> 03:56:57,008 section two thirty nine to be in case of the 3796 03:56:57,008 --> 03:57:00,268 municipal act personal matters but I don't viable individual including 3797 03:57:00,268 --> 03:57:03,418 municipal or local board employees and a position plan procedure 3798 03:57:03,418 --> 03:57:06,058 criteria or instruction to be applied to any negotiations carried 3799 03:57:06,058 --> 03:57:08,028 on or to be carried on by or on behalf 3800 03:57:08,028 --> 03:57:10,938 of the municipality or local board item nineteen point ten 3801 03:57:11,278 --> 03:57:13,458 and if the meeting exception under section two thirty nine 3802 03:57:13,458 --> 03:57:16,348 to be India of the municipal act personal matters but 3803 03:57:16,348 --> 03:57:20,668 in identifiable individual including municipal or local board employees and 3804 03:57:20,668 --> 03:57:24,288 labor relations aren't going to go stations skews me item 3805 03:57:24,288 --> 03:57:27,178 nineteen point eleven open session meeting exception under section two 3806 03:57:27,178 --> 03:57:29,958 thirty nine to K. of the municipal act position plan 3807 03:57:29,958 --> 03:57:33,398 procedure criteria or instruction to be applied to any negotiations 3808 03:57:33,738 --> 03:57:35,268 carried on or to be carried on by or on 3809 03:57:35,268 --> 03:57:37,768 behalf of the municipality or local board and finally the 3810 03:57:37,768 --> 03:57:41,628 added close session item nineteen point twelve ... an open 3811 03:57:41,628 --> 03:57:44,118 meeting exception under section two thirty nine to P. and 3812 03:57:44,118 --> 03:57:47,548 F. of the municipal act litigation potential litigation including matters 3813 03:57:47,548 --> 03:57:51,658 before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality or local board and 3814 03:57:51,658 --> 03:57:54,778 advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege including communications 3815 03:57:54,978 --> 03:58:00,858 necessary for that purpose 3816 03:58:00,858 --> 03:58:03,788 okay 3817 03:58:03,788 --> 03:58:07,528 mmhm ... as a motion moved by counseling's Williams moved 3818 03:58:07,528 --> 03:58:12,138 to close session anyone opposed hearing none the motion carries 3819 03:58:12,398 --> 03:58:14,578 that would be a good time for a lunch break 3820 03:58:14,988 --> 03:58:18,748 it is one twenty one so I'm gonna ask if 3821 03:58:18,748 --> 03:58:20,988 we could have a half an hour break and return 3822 03:58:20,988 --> 03:58:28,508 back at one fifty one close in close session 3823 03:58:28,508 --> 03:58:32,088 recessed 3824 03:57:38,663 --> 03:57:40,613 present 3825 03:57:40,613 --> 03:57:43,473 and just looking through the list 3826 03:57:43,473 --> 03:57:54,303 I see 3827 03:57:33,674 --> 03:57:35,924 I see at the moment 3828 03:57:35,924 --> 03:57:40,554 so we have 5 members present I see councillor Bowman 3829 03:57:40,554 --> 03:57:46,904 okay 3830 03:57:46,904 --> 03:57:49,474 transparently Norman 3831 03:57:49,474 --> 03:57:51,674 I will for a public session in your company please 3832 03:57:51,674 --> 03:57:54,504 close session business as a result of our close session 3833 03:57:54,504 --> 03:57:58,454 today was report the following hi and to the first 3834 03:57:59,074 --> 03:58:01,954 we dealt with the items 3835 03:58:01,954 --> 03:58:04,214 through you Mr chair of I'll do a run through 3836 03:58:04,214 --> 03:58:07,614 of the items we have a nineteen point six which 3837 03:58:07,614 --> 03:58:11,424 was a position ... position plan procedure criteria or instruction 3838 03:58:11,424 --> 03:58:13,344 to be applied to any negotiations carried on or to 3839 03:58:13,344 --> 03:58:15,284 be carried on by or on behalf of the municipality 3840 03:58:15,284 --> 03:58:18,264 or local board that matter was considering close session direction 3841 03:58:18,264 --> 03:58:22,204 was the information was receiving direction was given item nineteen 3842 03:58:22,204 --> 03:58:26,174 point seven litigation potential litigation including matters before administrative tribunals 3843 03:58:26,174 --> 03:58:28,864 affecting the municipality or local board and advice of the 3844 03:58:28,864 --> 03:58:33,134 subject solicitor client privilege including communications necessary for that purpose 3845 03:58:33,444 --> 03:58:36,234 that matter was considered in close session information was received 3846 03:58:36,234 --> 03:58:39,204 and direction was given 3847 03:58:39,204 --> 03:58:42,994 item 19.9 3848 03:58:42,994 --> 03:58:46,584 ... personal matter of an identifiable individual including municipal or 3849 03:58:46,584 --> 03:58:49,044 local board employees and a position plan procedure criteria or 3850 03:58:49,044 --> 03:58:51,814 instruction to be applied to any negotiations carried on or 3851 03:58:51,814 --> 03:58:53,294 to be carried on by or on behalf of the 3852 03:58:53,294 --> 03:58:55,414 municipality or local board 3853 03:58:55,414 --> 03:58:58,304 for that matter was considered no direction was given item 3854 03:58:58,304 --> 03:59:01,934 nineteen point ten a personal matter about nineteen viable individual 3855 03:59:01,934 --> 03:59:05,084 income including municipal or local board employees and labor relations 3856 03:59:05,084 --> 03:59:07,824 aren't going to go she Asians that matter was considered 3857 03:59:07,824 --> 03:59:11,824 a no direction was given ... item nineteen eleven which 3858 03:59:11,824 --> 03:59:14,534 is a position plan procedure criteria or instruction to be 3859 03:59:14,534 --> 03:59:16,774 applied to any negotiations carried on or to be carried 3860 03:59:16,774 --> 03:59:18,944 on by or on behalf of the municipality or local 3861 03:59:18,944 --> 03:59:22,554 board that matter was not considered and closed session and 3862 03:59:22,554 --> 03:59:26,944 finally nineteen point twelve ... which is litigation potential litigation 3863 03:59:26,944 --> 03:59:30,124 this is the added item including matters before administrative tribunals 3864 03:59:30,124 --> 03:59:33,004 affecting the municipality or local board and advice that is 3865 03:59:33,004 --> 03:59:36,114 subject to solicitor client privilege including communications necessary for that 3866 03:59:36,114 --> 03:59:40,374 purpose ... information was receiving closed session and direction was 3867 03:59:40,374 --> 03:59:43,174 given okay our next item of business is I'm twenty 3868 03:59:43,174 --> 03:59:45,754 the confirming bylaw I have a motion moved by a 3869 03:59:45,754 --> 03:59:49,124 councillor Santos and seconded by councillor Singh to approve the 3870 03:59:49,124 --> 03:59:51,724 current bylaw took from the proceedings and decisions from this 3871 03:59:51,724 --> 03:59:54,414 meeting is anyone opposed to this motion otherwise your vote 3872 03:59:54,414 --> 03:59:57,224 will count in the Fuhrman of 3873 03:59:57,224 --> 04:00:00,724 hearing none there are no objections the motion carries our 3874 04:00:00,724 --> 04:00:03,534 last item of business is item twenty one adjournment council's 3875 04:00:03,534 --> 04:00:06,064 next scheduled to meet Wednesday February ninth twenty twenty to 3876 04:00:06,064 --> 04:00:09,464 nine thirty AM and and then Mr Mayor sorry I 3877 04:00:09,464 --> 04:00:11,354 just want to confirm I do have quorum present I 3878 04:00:11,354 --> 04:00:12,824 don't know if I have it right now I see 3879 04:00:12,824 --> 04:00:18,624 councillor I see yourself as a councillor Singh councillor Palleschi 3880 04:00:18,624 --> 04:00:21,254 tell serviceontario 3881 04:00:21,254 --> 04:00:24,544 councillor Santos 3882 04:00:24,544 --> 04:00:26,764 councillor Bowman was the six member I don't see him 3883 04:00:26,764 --> 04:00:28,944 present at the moment 3884 04:00:28,944 --> 04:00:31,454 okay so we can't do German the ... week we 3885 04:00:31,454 --> 04:00:34,794 cannot proceed until we we have quorum 3886 04:00:34,794 --> 04:00:38,014 so all right item twenty one very dealt with all 3887 04:00:38,014 --> 04:00:41,374 the way up until twenty one so if we don't 3888 04:00:41,374 --> 04:00:43,674 turn does that make a difference 3889 04:00:43,674 --> 04:00:46,094 ... no so the procedure bylaw we kick in which 3890 04:00:46,094 --> 04:00:48,664 says that ... if we if we've lost corn we 3891 04:00:48,664 --> 04:00:51,584 have thirty minutes to achieve quorum we don't achieve for 3892 04:00:51,584 --> 04:00:54,094 like thirty minutes and then the meeting ends they're all 3893 04:00:54,094 --> 04:00:57,474 the decisions up to that point are ... confirmed and 3894 04:00:57,474 --> 04:01:01,604 in fact confirming bylaw ... carried as I understand this 3895 04:01:01,984 --> 04:01:04,024 I understood we had a quorum present when that occurred 3896 04:01:04,344 --> 04:01:06,574 and then anything that's not dealt with which there is 3897 04:01:06,574 --> 04:01:08,794 no other business would carry over to the next meeting 3898 04:01:08,794 --> 04:01:12,794 so theoretically if we don't achieve corpsman in ... thirty 3899 04:01:12,794 --> 04:01:17,104 minutes then ... the meeting will turn on an adequate 3900 04:01:17,104 --> 04:01:22,204 the solicitor automatically the 3901 04:01:22,204 --> 04:01:24,964 the procedural rule should be to wait until we achieve 3902 04:01:24,964 --> 04:01:28,694 quark as we should and the meeting properly but ... 3903 04:01:28,694 --> 04:01:31,604 I don't know councillor Bowman has a 3904 04:01:31,604 --> 04:01:42,514 connection issue 3905 04:03:00,454 --> 04:03:02,644 ... ... be adjourned by virtue that there be no 3906 04:03:02,644 --> 04:03:04,304 one there 3907 04:03:04,304 --> 04:03:05,884 so I'm gonna ask all the members of council to 3908 04:03:05,884 --> 04:03:12,034 sign off and that way we achieve adjournment 3909 04:03:12,034 --> 04:03:14,724 it was no one yeah I would say for instance 3910 04:03:14,724 --> 04:03:18,324 the form three stuff ... and then solution that's your 3911 04:03:18,324 --> 04:03:21,574 decision I think I think man that's automatically change okay 3912 04:03:21,574 --> 04:03:26,544 correction 3913 04:03:26,544 --> 04:03:28,644 I believe we have to hang out for half okay 3914 04:03:28,644 --> 04:03:31,814 you're right you're right this is the consent I forgot 3915 04:03:31,814 --> 04:03:37,144 my guitar so I can't play for anyone sorry 3916 04:03:37,144 --> 04:03:46,684 so 3917 04:03:46,684 --> 04:03:53,424 all 3918 04:03:53,424 --> 04:04:06,514 3919 04:04:08,744 --> 04:04:22,414 I had 30 minutes starting at 407 3920 04:21:44,734 --> 04:21:48,324 it's time repair 3921 04:21:48,324 --> 04:21:50,834 I can support you know hi notice that our four 3922 04:21:50,834 --> 04:21:53,574 oh seven so we have to wait to four thirty 3923 04:21:53,574 --> 04:21:58,504 seven that's thirty minutes ... for thirty seven 3924 04:21:58,504 --> 04:22:02,244 is the 0 starter 3925 04:22:02,244 --> 04:22:04,864 yes 3926 04:22:04,864 --> 04:22:08,454 I think the CEO could probably aren't Smith's all stop 3927 04:22:08,454 --> 04:22:10,374 right stop don't have to stay on for the next 3928 04:22:10,374 --> 04:22:12,464 ten minutes 3929 04:22:12,464 --> 04:22:23,694 so for you Peter sorry 3930 04:28:53,604 --> 04:28:55,244 form 3931 04:28:55,244 --> 04:28:57,554 it's four oh seven it is four thirty five there's 3932 04:28:57,554 --> 04:29:01,044 two minutes left and then at thirty minutes ... were 3933 04:29:01,044 --> 04:29:08,804 automatically injured 3934 04:29:08,804 --> 04:29:10,794 the for your own interests the next scheduled meeting is 3935 04:29:10,794 --> 04:29:12,964 February ninth twenty twenty two at nine thirty AM and 3936 04:29:12,964 --> 04:29:20,574 after that March second at nine thirty AM 3937 04:29:20,574 --> 04:29:23,714 members of council just as we are ... it's it's 3938 04:29:23,714 --> 04:29:26,444 likely that we will not achieve quorum within thirty minutes 3939 04:29:26,874 --> 04:29:28,884 ... I'm just gonna note for the record the members 3940 04:29:28,884 --> 04:29:31,904 that are present so we have Mayor Brown ... we 3941 04:29:31,904 --> 04:29:36,224 have councillor Alessi 3942 04:29:36,224 --> 04:29:38,874 we have 3943 04:29:38,874 --> 04:29:42,014 Ken serviceontario 3944 04:29:42,014 --> 04:29:45,524 councillor Santos 3945 04:29:45,524 --> 04:29:55,804 and councillor Singh 3946 04:29:55,804 --> 04:29:58,504 and that is based on their ... connection to the 3947 04:29:58,504 --> 04:30:09,814 webex ... virtual meeting platform 3948 04:30:13,504 --> 04:30:15,764 okay 437 3949 04:30:15,764 --> 04:30:18,534 so the meeting is automatically Germany lost quorum at four 3950 04:30:18,534 --> 04:30:21,664 oh seven after we but when we attempted to pass 3951 04:30:21,664 --> 04:30:25,054 the German item twenty one 3952 04:30:25,054 --> 04:30:28,424 okay thank you