1 00:04:25,235 --> 00:04:28,574 Check when two testing audio check one to testing audio 2 00:04:28,675 --> 00:04:29,934 check one too. 3 00:27:02,564 --> 00:27:09,950 Hi Paula, can we test your audio please? Hi there, 4 00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:11,550 can you hear me? Yes, we can, thank you. 5 00:27:43,972 --> 00:27:48,799 Hi Kate, can we test your audio please? Yes, hello. 6 00:27:49,539 --> 00:27:54,238 Hi, perfect, thank you. Can you tell me, will I 7 00:27:54,238 --> 00:27:56,318 be running my own PowerPoint or will you be doing 8 00:27:56,318 --> 00:28:00,808 that. I will be doing that. Okay, Splendid, thank you. 9 00:28:00,829 --> 00:28:06,605 Thank you. Just let me know what I need to 10 00:28:06,605 --> 00:28:08,605 go to the next slide. So just say next slide, 11 00:28:08,605 --> 00:28:11,926 please. Perfect, thank you. 12 00:34:47,196 --> 00:34:55,067 Hi Michelle, can we test your audio please? Can you 13 00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:56,967 hear me? Yes we can, thank you. 14 00:35:12,051 --> 00:35:16,389 Good evening. And welcome to the accessibility advisory committee meeting. 15 00:35:17,214 --> 00:35:24,168 We'll begin today's meeting with the approval of Agenda. Oh, 16 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:32,003 sorry. Apologise like to get a roll call. Finesse tantello. 17 00:35:32,531 --> 00:35:40,172 Present. No, no piscioto, I'm President Paul Anderson. Prends it 18 00:35:40,193 --> 00:35:43,372 Thank you Camilla Belleth, I apologise if I said that 19 00:35:43,393 --> 00:35:51,149 wrong. Michelle Buckland. I can see I'm here. Sherry Hopkins. 20 00:35:53,558 --> 00:36:01,955 Kathia Thank you. Kathia Johnson. Sends regrets. Frank who spadafora. 21 00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:09,436 President. Sukpir Tank sends regrets I believe. And city council 22 00:36:09,537 --> 00:36:17,523 right power. Sends regrets as well. We like to start 23 00:36:17,523 --> 00:36:21,683 with approval of the agenda Do any members have any 24 00:36:21,864 --> 00:36:28,474 changes to the agenda. See none may I have a 25 00:36:28,474 --> 00:36:33,806 motion to approve the agenda as published and circulated. Franco's 26 00:36:33,846 --> 00:36:41,626 padafora here I will send motion through. Any opposed. Thank 27 00:36:41,666 --> 00:36:46,464 you the motion carries. Members in the Council chambers Please 28 00:36:46,464 --> 00:36:48,364 remember to turn off your mic in front of you. 29 00:36:49,287 --> 00:36:55,026 Uh When you speak so everyone can hear you. Declarations 30 00:36:55,527 --> 00:36:59,739 under the municipal conflict of interest Act. Are there any 31 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:06,246 members that have a conflict. Seeing none. Cleric will sew 32 00:37:06,286 --> 00:37:11,745 note for the meeting minutes. Item number four previous minutes. 33 00:37:13,696 --> 00:37:19,850 Minutes for accessibility advisory committee from May 26 2026. The 34 00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:22,410 minutes were considered by committee of council on June 17 35 00:37:22,991 --> 00:37:28,188 2026 and approved by council on June 26 2026. The 36 00:37:28,209 --> 00:37:32,935 minutes are provided for committee's information. Are there any comments 37 00:37:32,956 --> 00:37:35,972 or questions. May I have a motion. 38 00:37:44,421 --> 00:37:47,200 So this is only for information no motion is required. 39 00:37:49,769 --> 00:37:59,593 We'll move into five Presentations and delegations. Members online Uh 40 00:37:59,934 --> 00:38:02,473 welcome I just want to remind you that we have 41 00:38:02,974 --> 00:38:05,914 quorum for this meeting. Um, if you decide to drop 42 00:38:05,935 --> 00:38:09,594 off online Um, for those attending online We would lose 43 00:38:09,615 --> 00:38:11,434 Corham and I will have to adjourn the meeting So 44 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:18,948 please be aware of that. Thank you. Thank you. So 45 00:38:19,129 --> 00:38:23,108 we're moving to Presentations and delegations First Presentation 5. 1 46 00:38:24,169 --> 00:38:30,068 Delegation by Kate Riccimini Program lead Advocacy in Accessibly Community 47 00:38:30,089 --> 00:38:37,588 Engagement CINB regarding misuse of tactile walking surface indicators TWSIs 48 00:38:38,009 --> 00:38:40,948 South side of Queen Street between Main Street and Theatre 49 00:38:40,988 --> 00:38:47,428 Lane. Kate Please go ahead. Thank you Sure everyone hear 50 00:38:47,428 --> 00:38:50,308 me Yes And you have five minutes to present Thank 51 00:38:50,308 --> 00:38:53,298 you. Of course Thank you Uh Thank you all for 52 00:38:53,338 --> 00:38:56,258 the opportunity to let me speak to you And thank 53 00:38:56,258 --> 00:39:01,037 you to Vanessa for inviting me Next slide please. I 54 00:39:01,077 --> 00:39:06,557 Wanted to start with a definition Uh for tactile locking 55 00:39:06,557 --> 00:39:11,197 surface indicators or twistees TWSIs Uh... They are a special 56 00:39:11,378 --> 00:39:15,437 kind of paver that conveys Information about what's going on 57 00:39:15,938 --> 00:39:18,557 on the ground in front of you via texture indicationally 58 00:39:18,658 --> 00:39:22,237 sound And there are two types Um or warning twisties 59 00:39:22,237 --> 00:39:25,677 Which are truncated domes Um, that you find often that 60 00:39:25,698 --> 00:39:28,637 For example The corners of intersections Um, and then directional 61 00:39:28,738 --> 00:39:31,357 disease Which give you a path to follow These are 62 00:39:31,357 --> 00:39:33,997 kind of three or four parallel lines That you can 63 00:39:34,037 --> 00:39:36,557 follow to get from point A to point B Next 64 00:39:36,557 --> 00:39:41,798 slide please. This slide gives Um... Two examples from Ottawa 65 00:39:41,979 --> 00:39:45,478 Where I live Uh The first shows a training platform 66 00:39:45,579 --> 00:39:48,758 And you can see the truncated domes The attention twisties 67 00:39:48,798 --> 00:39:50,678 along the platform Edge to warn you that you are 68 00:39:50,699 --> 00:39:53,718 at the edge And then a line of directional twisties 69 00:39:53,739 --> 00:39:56,038 going down the platform Um They lead you from the 70 00:39:56,139 --> 00:39:59,798 elevator Which is behind me along the platform To get 71 00:39:59,798 --> 00:40:02,678 on the train on my other Uh picture It is 72 00:40:02,779 --> 00:40:06,998 an intersection And I have Um, there are truncated dome 73 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:11,398 Attention Tweezies at the edge of the bike path and 74 00:40:11,419 --> 00:40:14,598 travel Um traffic And then there is a line of 75 00:40:14,638 --> 00:40:17,878 direction of Twizzies Leaving you through this intersection This is 76 00:40:17,878 --> 00:40:20,438 a little bit of a complicated one Uh Next slide 77 00:40:20,699 --> 00:40:25,555 please. Um So my next slide Um is a picture 78 00:40:25,896 --> 00:40:28,995 that was sent to me about of Queen Street in 79 00:40:29,176 --> 00:40:34,493 Brampton. Um, on this slide Um we have Um... The 80 00:40:34,754 --> 00:40:37,613 sidewalk and the bike path And there has been used 81 00:40:37,653 --> 00:40:40,813 to demarcate between the sidewalk and the bike path A 82 00:40:40,914 --> 00:40:43,533 line of directional twisties I can tell you as a 83 00:40:43,714 --> 00:40:47,213 white Kane user I would follow this line And clip 84 00:40:47,253 --> 00:40:49,533 The garbage can that is right beside the twisties I 85 00:40:49,554 --> 00:40:52,093 would hit Um... The lamp posts, all of which have 86 00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:55,293 been planted Right in the middle of this line Uh... 87 00:40:55,474 --> 00:40:58,973 Rather than being a useful way to demarcate between Where 88 00:40:59,074 --> 00:41:01,693 the fliedwalk is and where the bike path is... Um... 89 00:41:02,194 --> 00:41:04,493 This This tells me there's a line to follow And 90 00:41:04,493 --> 00:41:06,893 it's going to walk me into all of the Street 91 00:41:06,933 --> 00:41:10,813 furniture Uh... Which obviously is not very good for safety 92 00:41:11,634 --> 00:41:16,805 Next slide Please. Um On this slide I have a 93 00:41:16,805 --> 00:41:19,765 picture Um... Highlighting a pilot project Which the city of 94 00:41:19,866 --> 00:41:24,325 Ottawa Um... Has done And normally you would have a 95 00:41:24,365 --> 00:41:26,805 half height curb between a bike path and a sidewalk 96 00:41:26,906 --> 00:41:29,525 Um... On this slide I have a picture of Uh 97 00:41:29,626 --> 00:41:31,505 This is Mackenzie King Bridge And due to the way 98 00:41:31,505 --> 00:41:33,525 The bridge is built If they can't do that that 99 00:41:33,626 --> 00:41:37,205 way So they have... Bypass and the sidewalk are the 100 00:41:37,205 --> 00:41:39,685 same level Uh... And but between them They have this 101 00:41:39,946 --> 00:41:44,005 line of tactile walking circuits indicators that are this crosshatch 102 00:41:44,005 --> 00:41:48,245 pattern So they're different from the Attention Tweezies Which are 103 00:41:48,245 --> 00:41:51,445 the truncated dome And from the directional Twizies Which are 104 00:41:51,786 --> 00:41:53,765 You know The going in a straight line So if 105 00:41:53,765 --> 00:41:55,925 I feel these with my cane I know it's not 106 00:41:56,026 --> 00:41:59,685 The warning that there's a drop - off or a 107 00:41:59,685 --> 00:42:02,725 traffic Um... On the other side And I know it's 108 00:42:02,725 --> 00:42:05,605 not Aligned to follow I know it's something else And 109 00:42:05,706 --> 00:42:08,485 so in this case It's The other side is The 110 00:42:08,506 --> 00:42:11,605 bike path Be careful I wanted to show you this 111 00:42:11,786 --> 00:42:15,125 Because this could be a potential solution for what's going 112 00:42:15,165 --> 00:42:19,365 on Um... In Brampton... On Queen Street Uh... And I 113 00:42:19,365 --> 00:42:23,285 would encourage you to Your City Council and staff to 114 00:42:23,386 --> 00:42:25,925 reach out to staff at the City of Ottawa This 115 00:42:26,026 --> 00:42:30,405 was a project that we did in conjunction The city 116 00:42:30,405 --> 00:42:34,165 of Ottawa Consulted with members of the Blind Community Not 117 00:42:34,266 --> 00:42:37,445 just myself at CNIB But others who use white canes 118 00:42:37,546 --> 00:42:39,845 and guide dogs Um to make sure that they had 119 00:42:39,885 --> 00:42:44,245 come up with something That would be distinct Uh in 120 00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:47,845 cane detectable and wouldn't get confused Uh, uh, one of 121 00:42:47,845 --> 00:42:51,685 the other types of walking Surf - fit indicators Next 122 00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:57,463 slide Please. Uh My final slide is One final example 123 00:42:57,884 --> 00:43:02,663 Uh... This shows... Um... Where I work Uh... The Property 124 00:43:02,663 --> 00:43:07,143 Manager used The Directional Twizies to build A to do 125 00:43:07,183 --> 00:43:10,103 a path along the sidewalk So you could follow The 126 00:43:10,124 --> 00:43:12,983 path along sidewalk And nowhere You're going Then COVID happened 127 00:43:13,644 --> 00:43:16,583 And this restaurant built a patio right over top of 128 00:43:16,764 --> 00:43:20,343 The directional walking surface indicators Um, and so I have 129 00:43:20,524 --> 00:43:24,183 two pictures The first picture is from Before They before 130 00:43:24,364 --> 00:43:28,103 they fixed it of me Uh, walking into The Pattier 131 00:43:28,143 --> 00:43:31,463 Wall with my white cane Um... Following that path Uh... 132 00:43:31,564 --> 00:43:36,103 In this case What the property management did was They 133 00:43:36,124 --> 00:43:40,503 took out the directional Twittes and put a square of 134 00:43:40,764 --> 00:43:45,063 truncated domes Um... As a sort of Attention This path 135 00:43:45,084 --> 00:43:47,543 is ending Um... So when I follow it with my 136 00:43:47,804 --> 00:43:50,743 white cane And that's what Shown in this second picture 137 00:43:50,924 --> 00:43:53,703 on the slide Um... I know that's where The path 138 00:43:53,743 --> 00:43:56,983 ends and that I can no longer keep going in 139 00:43:57,023 --> 00:43:58,663 that straight line In this case I have to walk 140 00:43:58,703 --> 00:44:01,863 around The patio to find The path on the other 141 00:44:01,884 --> 00:44:07,303 side Uh... This could be something... Um... Was relatively easy 142 00:44:07,564 --> 00:44:10,503 It seems for land The property manager to fix this 143 00:44:11,244 --> 00:44:15,543 by simply replacing the Theresies with pavers Um... And putting 144 00:44:15,804 --> 00:44:17,143 a new one in. They didn't have to do a 145 00:44:17,183 --> 00:44:19,783 whole bunch of digging up or anything Um, pretty easy 146 00:44:19,884 --> 00:44:22,903 Fix to make it a little more safer Um, next 147 00:44:22,903 --> 00:44:26,779 slide Please. Um. This is Just My final slide to 148 00:44:26,819 --> 00:44:29,099 say Thank you once again for inviting me I hope 149 00:44:29,139 --> 00:44:32,859 you will Uh Pursue Uh Like I said and he 150 00:44:32,859 --> 00:44:35,499 fired with the City of Ottawa On there What they've 151 00:44:35,499 --> 00:44:37,659 been doing I would also encourage you to check out 152 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,819 Uh... Clearing Our path Which is CNIBs built environment guidelines 153 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,339 Um... For city planners Engineers Architecture Um... Architects When building 154 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,139 Uh... Infrastructure Like bus stops And you know bike lanes 155 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,059 and sidewalks And doors and all kinds of things Um... 156 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,379 In the built environment Uh... It gives a bunch of 157 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,859 guidelines And... sort of... Things to keep in mind So 158 00:45:02,859 --> 00:45:05,179 that you can make them as accessible for people Who 159 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,659 are blind to death blinder have low vision as possible? 160 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,096 Again Thank you very much for your time. Thank you 161 00:45:13,117 --> 00:45:16,456 for that Presentation Kate Thank you so much Uh do 162 00:45:16,456 --> 00:45:19,336 any members have any questions or comments regarding The Presentation 163 00:45:20,077 --> 00:45:22,936 And members Online You can use The Chat Function to 164 00:45:22,957 --> 00:45:27,327 indicate You wish to speak Thank you. Hi Kate I 165 00:45:27,367 --> 00:45:29,327 just wanted to thank you so much for coming out 166 00:45:29,327 --> 00:45:32,127 to the meeting tonight And delegating I know You were 167 00:45:32,127 --> 00:45:34,927 on the road today So it's I know It's been 168 00:45:34,927 --> 00:45:36,367 a bit of a long day But I really appreciate 169 00:45:37,108 --> 00:45:40,207 Um... You joining us tonight And sharing this really important 170 00:45:40,308 --> 00:45:46,772 information. Thank you. And this is Franco speaking I'm actually 171 00:45:47,113 --> 00:45:50,292 a member of the CNIB So I'm glad to see 172 00:45:50,393 --> 00:45:53,652 that Uh... The CNIB is getting involved in this I 173 00:45:53,652 --> 00:45:55,892 think It's an important issue that needs to be looked 174 00:45:56,073 --> 00:46:00,553 into Thanks. Thank you Um and I guess if you're 175 00:46:00,654 --> 00:46:04,233 a White King user Uh be careful along Green Street 176 00:46:04,233 --> 00:46:09,176 So you don't crash in Denny Lampposts. Michelle Go ahead. 177 00:46:12,747 --> 00:46:15,686 Thank you so much for your presentation Kate Appreciate it 178 00:46:16,187 --> 00:46:20,806 Um I was gonna ask you based on locations and 179 00:46:20,846 --> 00:46:23,366 having to use your cane How has the experience been 180 00:46:23,627 --> 00:46:29,690 with transit in relation to that. And relation to transit. 181 00:46:30,488 --> 00:46:33,267 I Have to admit So I am... I am in 182 00:46:33,288 --> 00:46:36,867 Ottawa Um So I haven't actually used transit and Brampton 183 00:46:36,867 --> 00:46:41,667 yet Um Vanessa reached out to The CNIB Entemi Cause 184 00:46:41,667 --> 00:46:44,467 like I said In Ottawa They use these directional Tweezies 185 00:46:45,128 --> 00:46:47,667 And has spent a lot of time figuring out Especially 186 00:46:47,688 --> 00:46:51,187 the demarcation between sidewalks and bike paths In a way 187 00:46:51,187 --> 00:46:54,787 that is going to keep cyclists safe and keep pedestrian 188 00:46:54,827 --> 00:46:57,507 safe and keep Those of us who are white Kane 189 00:46:57,507 --> 00:47:01,683 users from wandering into the cycle path by accident. Okay 190 00:47:02,024 --> 00:47:05,043 I was wondering if there was a requirement Or if 191 00:47:05,083 --> 00:47:09,043 it would be Value - wide of then those same 192 00:47:09,144 --> 00:47:12,003 pathways in the marks for people who may have to 193 00:47:12,003 --> 00:47:16,166 get on and off the bus So yeah. I do 194 00:47:16,187 --> 00:47:19,526 know that Um in clearing our path There is a 195 00:47:19,566 --> 00:47:23,126 section on bus stops and bustations Um, and so it 196 00:47:23,166 --> 00:47:26,646 does give some recommendations there I don't remember if it 197 00:47:26,646 --> 00:47:30,486 talks about tactile We're walking surface indicators with regards to 198 00:47:30,587 --> 00:47:34,006 breast Aspecifically But that would be a good place to 199 00:47:34,046 --> 00:47:42,873 start. Okay. Alright does anybody have any other questions Uh 200 00:47:43,214 --> 00:47:49,173 for Kate before she leaves us. No C non - 201 00:47:49,173 --> 00:47:51,333 I may have a motion to receive the item 5. 202 00:47:51,354 --> 00:47:54,853 1 O motion to receive the item 5. 1 Vanessa 203 00:47:54,893 --> 00:48:01,949 Tantalo. Thank you The motion Um your post. Seeing none 204 00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:04,429 motion is carried Kate Thank you so much for your 205 00:48:04,429 --> 00:48:11,949 time. Thank you very much for having me. We'll move 206 00:48:11,949 --> 00:48:18,091 to 5. 2 Presentation. By Rowa Debt Sorry apologise for 207 00:48:18,091 --> 00:48:24,571 that Uh Chowdry Transportation Policy Planner regarding Complete Street Standards 208 00:48:24,571 --> 00:48:29,682 Upgrade. Provided You have the floor An apologised for the 209 00:48:29,682 --> 00:48:33,427 name I'm really sorry. So it's Rowe The Cha - 210 00:48:33,427 --> 00:48:39,332 3 But nice to meet everyone Um Thank you. And 211 00:48:39,353 --> 00:48:42,372 I guess I'll get started then Yes Um So I'm 212 00:48:42,412 --> 00:48:45,492 a transportation planner at the city And my group Transportation 213 00:48:45,753 --> 00:48:49,332 planning is part of Integrated City Planning under planning building 214 00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:53,652 and growth management as Transportation Planners We are responsible for 215 00:48:53,913 --> 00:48:59,492 guiding the development of transportation infrastructure services And policies to 216 00:48:59,513 --> 00:49:05,896 meet Brampton's Transportation and mobility needs. Next slide please. 217 00:49:09,307 --> 00:49:12,246 And to guide that development We have been working on 218 00:49:12,286 --> 00:49:15,606 the city's transportation Master Plan also known as the Brampton 219 00:49:15,627 --> 00:49:19,366 Mobility Plan or the BMP The BMPs The City's long 220 00:49:19,406 --> 00:49:23,126 - term strategy for transportation infrastructure and initiatives That will 221 00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:26,726 guide future investments to support growth in the city The 222 00:49:26,747 --> 00:49:30,886 mobility plan was endorsed by counseling September 2025 along with 223 00:49:31,387 --> 00:49:33,766 some more chair targets and a number of infrastructure projects 224 00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:36,806 There is a list of action Items in the BMP 225 00:49:37,627 --> 00:49:41,366 to support the physical infrastructure One of these items speaks 226 00:49:41,366 --> 00:49:45,286 to updating the city's design standards to reflect complete streets 227 00:49:45,627 --> 00:49:50,367 guidance. Next slide please. So what does that all mean. 228 00:49:51,852 --> 00:49:57,831 Design standards are used by planners and engineers to essentially 229 00:49:57,932 --> 00:50:01,671 plan and build roadways They set out The physical dimensions 230 00:50:01,932 --> 00:50:05,431 and arrangement of the roadway travelings and boulevard space When 231 00:50:05,692 --> 00:50:11,031 undertaking Municipal road construction and development projects within Brampton Contractors 232 00:50:11,052 --> 00:50:13,991 and developers are required to adhere to city of Brampton 233 00:50:14,031 --> 00:50:18,071 Standard drawings So what's currently shown on screen is our 234 00:50:18,111 --> 00:50:21,671 existing roadway standard And I've taken the more technical engineering 235 00:50:21,772 --> 00:50:24,551 drawing in the background and shown it in the figure 236 00:50:24,892 --> 00:50:27,591 The best way to visualize this would be to think 237 00:50:27,591 --> 00:50:30,791 of it as a slice of the roadway And we 238 00:50:30,791 --> 00:50:34,791 can see left to right There's the tree that's shown 239 00:50:34,791 --> 00:50:39,271 in the technical drawing in the figure Lamp post sidewalk 240 00:50:39,932 --> 00:50:43,111 through travel lanes and median And then the same mirrored 241 00:50:43,111 --> 00:50:45,271 on the other side And this is what we would 242 00:50:45,271 --> 00:50:48,071 use as a starting point for any major road project 243 00:50:48,812 --> 00:50:53,511 Um... And this is just an example But the roadway 244 00:50:53,551 --> 00:50:55,751 with would change depending on what kind of road it 245 00:50:55,751 --> 00:50:57,191 is If it's a main road or if it's a 246 00:50:57,191 --> 00:51:00,951 local road Our current standards are outdated and have a 247 00:51:00,951 --> 00:51:08,791 vehicle focus can tell by the pavement with allocated in 248 00:51:08,791 --> 00:51:12,071 our existing standards And with this standard update What we 249 00:51:12,071 --> 00:51:14,791 hope to do is update the technical guidance to ensure 250 00:51:14,831 --> 00:51:18,471 that all modes of transportation Special vulnerable users such as 251 00:51:18,511 --> 00:51:22,551 pedestrians and cyclists are given adequate Dedicated space that is 252 00:51:22,572 --> 00:51:26,702 safe in the roadway alongside the vehicles. Next slide please. 253 00:51:29,218 --> 00:51:32,717 And that's where the complete streets piece comes in The 254 00:51:32,818 --> 00:51:36,317 project has focused on complete streets and complete streets are 255 00:51:36,498 --> 00:51:38,717 essentially Streets that are designed to be safe for all 256 00:51:38,818 --> 00:51:41,757 users and should accommodate for all people of all ages 257 00:51:41,938 --> 00:51:45,437 and abilities by balancing the competing demands for corridor space 258 00:51:45,938 --> 00:51:49,917 Complete streets include dedicated space for pedestrian cyclists and transit 259 00:51:49,957 --> 00:51:52,957 vehicles and focus on placemaking through inclusion of green space 260 00:51:53,298 --> 00:51:57,177 Streetscaping and other urban design features to make Uh, uh, 261 00:51:57,298 --> 00:51:59,997 make the street feel more like a place rather than 262 00:52:00,018 --> 00:52:03,424 just a convait for a movement. And they are typically 263 00:52:04,005 --> 00:52:06,384 context - sensitive and support the land use around them 264 00:52:07,205 --> 00:52:09,904 So not every street would look the same For instance, 265 00:52:09,944 --> 00:52:12,144 a neighbourhood street would single - family homes would look 266 00:52:12,184 --> 00:52:16,144 very different than a downtown street with retail frontage in 267 00:52:16,184 --> 00:52:20,464 an intensification area And are updated design standards would reflect 268 00:52:20,485 --> 00:52:25,721 the context of the different land uses in Brampton. Next 269 00:52:25,721 --> 00:52:29,547 slide please. So this is a list of standards that 270 00:52:29,728 --> 00:52:32,827 we're operating through this project I'm gonna go through all 271 00:52:32,827 --> 00:52:35,547 of them But what I want to highlight is that 272 00:52:35,587 --> 00:52:38,747 in addition to the cross - section standard as I 273 00:52:38,787 --> 00:52:43,917 showed earlier We are also updating intersection standards. Next slide 274 00:52:43,938 --> 00:52:50,631 please. So this is an example of one of our 275 00:52:50,892 --> 00:52:53,991 proposed standards It's still in draft But in comparison to 276 00:52:54,031 --> 00:52:57,511 the existing standard There is wider sidewalk space, a dedicated 277 00:52:57,612 --> 00:53:01,031 planting and furnishing zone dedicated cycle tracks with buffers from 278 00:53:01,071 --> 00:53:05,271 The travel lane And this exempt particularly would be applied 279 00:53:05,452 --> 00:53:08,551 to Jason to a commercial or industrial land use such 280 00:53:08,551 --> 00:53:13,511 as torboom road or kennedied road through commercial areas And 281 00:53:13,772 --> 00:53:17,111 we received feedback from our accessibility office That we need 282 00:53:17,151 --> 00:53:19,831 to review the guidance on how to approach a separation 283 00:53:19,831 --> 00:53:25,291 between cycle tracks and sidewalks through this exercise. For all 284 00:53:25,312 --> 00:53:28,011 new standards that we are proposing We do have the 285 00:53:28,112 --> 00:53:32,411 planting and furnishing zone situated between the pedestrian and cycling 286 00:53:32,451 --> 00:53:36,971 facilities However we understand that these are the ideal scenarios 287 00:53:37,232 --> 00:53:41,611 And we may not always be able to achieve the 288 00:53:41,651 --> 00:53:44,651 required with to include a full planting and furnishing zone 289 00:53:45,552 --> 00:53:49,451 Especially during retrofit projects or projects with constrained space So 290 00:53:49,472 --> 00:53:52,731 we have been reviewing what Other jurisdictions are doing and 291 00:53:52,832 --> 00:53:56,651 what to include for guidance in the situation where the 292 00:53:56,651 --> 00:54:00,011 cycle tech is right adjacent to the sidewalk and a 293 00:54:00,011 --> 00:54:06,818 planting information zone cannot be accommodated. Next slide please. So 294 00:54:06,999 --> 00:54:11,778 we have research commonly used tactile walking surface indicators Including 295 00:54:11,879 --> 00:54:15,138 the direction indicators which are the flat topped elongated bars 296 00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:20,258 The tactile warning delineators Uh that are the trapezoidal race 297 00:54:20,298 --> 00:54:24,338 services and the tractile Attention indicators which are the tyrannocated 298 00:54:24,359 --> 00:54:28,178 domes We've also have some samples back there if anyone 299 00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:30,498 is interested in taking a look after We can pass 300 00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:38,384 them around Next slide please. So the preferred approach at 301 00:54:38,565 --> 00:54:41,584 City of Ottawa is to have the half height barrier 302 00:54:41,605 --> 00:54:45,904 curve between the possession and cycling facility The barrier curb 303 00:54:45,904 --> 00:54:48,384 would be cane detectable due to the difference in elevation 304 00:54:48,485 --> 00:54:51,664 But also won't be a pedal strike hazard for cyclists 305 00:54:52,165 --> 00:54:54,624 may not be a parent visually at first But as 306 00:54:54,624 --> 00:54:56,544 you can see in the diagram on the top right 307 00:54:56,565 --> 00:55:01,504 There is an elevation difference Um, however the elevation difference 308 00:55:01,504 --> 00:55:06,224 could also cause adrenainage issues depending on existing conditions and 309 00:55:06,224 --> 00:55:10,447 the way the grade and drainage flow currently operates. Um, 310 00:55:10,868 --> 00:55:15,907 next slide please. So in areas where drainage or the 311 00:55:15,907 --> 00:55:17,827 other issues and the half - height curb cannot be 312 00:55:17,827 --> 00:55:23,907 implemented Ottawa has an alternative approach in areas Um, where 313 00:55:23,928 --> 00:55:28,067 that's not feasible to have the dropped curb This tech 314 00:55:28,088 --> 00:55:32,813 Which is the tactile delineator plates. The tactile deny or 315 00:55:32,834 --> 00:55:35,453 paint was piloted by the city of Ottawa on Mixed 316 00:55:35,954 --> 00:55:39,373 King Bridge and was deemed successful and is now The 317 00:55:39,373 --> 00:55:43,213 recommended alternative to wherever the half - height curb cannot 318 00:55:43,213 --> 00:55:49,979 be a comma dated. Next slide peace. The city of 319 00:55:50,019 --> 00:55:53,819 Toronto's approach similar Ottawa is a height difference between the 320 00:55:53,859 --> 00:55:57,419 cycle track and the sidewalk as well They - this 321 00:55:57,419 --> 00:55:59,859 could be a cheap through either a barrier curb, a 322 00:55:59,859 --> 00:56:02,299 beveled curb or a fully mountable curb as shown in 323 00:56:02,339 --> 00:56:05,579 the slide Again The elevation difference may cause drainage issues 324 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,259 if existing conditions are not favorable And their alternative approach 325 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,099 is doing cents all a band of visually contrasted king 326 00:56:13,139 --> 00:56:16,472 detectable unit pavers. Um... And you can see that image 327 00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:20,712 in the bottom left And I believe I've seen a 328 00:56:20,712 --> 00:56:27,221 similar application in Mississauga as well. Next slide please. So 329 00:56:27,562 --> 00:56:30,741 the slide says Metrolinks But that's incorrect This is actually 330 00:56:30,842 --> 00:56:34,581 a federal recommendations from accessibility standards Canada It was just 331 00:56:34,602 --> 00:56:39,622 shared by a colleague from Metro Lynx. Is king detectable 332 00:56:39,963 --> 00:56:44,502 Um... The trapzoidal tactile warning didn't delineater And signals are 333 00:56:44,502 --> 00:56:47,942 no crossing point But it's still transversible by strollers and 334 00:56:47,963 --> 00:56:50,902 mobility AIDS It could be used to identify the edge 335 00:56:50,902 --> 00:56:53,942 of the pedestrian path in a shared or adjacent to 336 00:56:53,982 --> 00:56:56,102 a cycle tracks Um... I've not been able to find 337 00:56:56,203 --> 00:56:59,702 an application of this Insider, Ontario But it is research 338 00:56:59,742 --> 00:57:02,982 - backed and becoming an emerging Practice in North America. 339 00:57:03,884 --> 00:57:08,273 Next slide please. So we've shared some of our initial 340 00:57:08,313 --> 00:57:11,153 thoughts and research with our operations on maintenance team regarding 341 00:57:11,153 --> 00:57:13,153 the long - term impacts of the half - height 342 00:57:13,174 --> 00:57:15,873 curb and the trapezoidal delineator as those are not currently 343 00:57:16,374 --> 00:57:20,513 installed anywhere in Brampton We're still discussing with the preferred 344 00:57:20,553 --> 00:57:23,873 solution would look like And we're quite in the early 345 00:57:23,894 --> 00:57:27,633 stages We'll work closely with both our Accessibility team and 346 00:57:27,894 --> 00:57:30,193 Opera instants and maintenance team to create a solution for 347 00:57:30,614 --> 00:57:35,804 Brampton Projects moving forward That works for everyone. Next slide 348 00:57:35,905 --> 00:57:42,032 please. So in the interim We're looking for feedback from 349 00:57:42,032 --> 00:57:45,632 the committee If the other jurisdictions we should consider in 350 00:57:45,632 --> 00:57:49,872 our review Even outside of Ontario or North America Again 351 00:57:49,872 --> 00:57:52,352 We're in the early phases and nothing has been finalised 352 00:57:52,773 --> 00:57:56,192 or tested If there are applications in the vicinity We 353 00:57:56,192 --> 00:57:59,792 could possibly coordinate site visits as well to better understand 354 00:58:01,013 --> 00:58:04,393 and inform the design for a Brampton specific solution. Next 355 00:58:04,574 --> 00:58:08,948 slide please. Thank you and let me know if you 356 00:58:08,948 --> 00:58:13,458 have any questions. Yes I have some questions. Uh Thank 357 00:58:13,498 --> 00:58:18,338 you for your presentation Um I'll let Vanessa go. She's 358 00:58:18,338 --> 00:58:20,818 already ready to rock and roll Um Thank you for 359 00:58:21,239 --> 00:58:24,818 this Roveda However I feel like this is too little 360 00:58:24,839 --> 00:58:30,834 too late. Um, where was this when The Brampton Downtown 361 00:58:30,935 --> 00:58:34,914 Revitalization Project was being done? So this project is separate 362 00:58:34,914 --> 00:58:38,994 from The Downtown Revitalization Project and it's to inform future 363 00:58:39,034 --> 00:58:44,203 standards. But the current product as we saw in the 364 00:58:44,304 --> 00:58:49,360 CNAB Presentation The products were used incorrectly. So that was 365 00:58:49,541 --> 00:58:51,680 not my team You would have to defer any questions 366 00:58:51,861 --> 00:58:54,240 related to that to the demo Okay Can we defer 367 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,320 the questions to whoever is responsible for it please Um 368 00:58:58,901 --> 00:59:01,280 Because this is a huge... This is a huge issue 369 00:59:01,621 --> 00:59:05,280 with that And it just seems very coincidental that everything 370 00:59:05,381 --> 00:59:08,400 that was in my email is a recommendation To the 371 00:59:08,501 --> 00:59:11,480 Accessibility team is now coming up in some sort of 372 00:59:11,781 --> 00:59:15,520 update in this And it's not to be honest This 373 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,440 is not a standard Like I don't know if you 374 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,200 have more documents But this just looks like a bunch 375 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,920 of pictures on a presentation So I just I feel 376 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,040 like this is a lot of saving face to be 377 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,000 honest And I'm incredibly frustrated after being gas lit by 378 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,520 the accessibility team since the end of May When I 379 00:59:37,541 --> 00:59:45,116 flagged this issue. It's a incredibly high risk safety issue 380 00:59:45,617 --> 00:59:48,636 It's a financial issue Because now the city is going 381 00:59:48,636 --> 00:59:52,316 to have to pay taxpayer dollars to repair these Um 382 00:59:53,217 --> 00:59:56,076 And it exposes the city to an incredible amount of 383 00:59:56,097 --> 00:59:59,676 liability Someone can issue a complaint to the human rights 384 01:00:00,417 --> 01:00:07,531 Tribunal. I'm just I'm absolutely I don't even have words 385 01:00:07,632 --> 01:00:12,842 for how frustrated I am. With this committee. And what 386 01:00:12,842 --> 01:00:20,539 I'm seeing Um... Be installed in Brampton. Large projects that 387 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,659 have big impact from an accessibility perspective And also high 388 01:00:25,699 --> 01:00:28,699 financial price tag to it are not being brought to 389 01:00:28,739 --> 01:00:31,259 the council's attention I've been on the council for the 390 01:00:31,259 --> 01:00:33,659 last two and a half years And I have not 391 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:39,659 seen any plans for The Downtown Revitalization Project This is 392 01:00:39,659 --> 01:00:43,579 not The first time that even code minimum requirements haven't 393 01:00:43,619 --> 01:00:48,379 been met Um... And I would just like The Minutes 394 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,971 to show my complete frustration. And at this point This 395 01:00:54,392 --> 01:01:01,981 is a mandated committee. Required by the ministry of Accessibility 396 01:01:02,242 --> 01:01:08,621 and seniors It's not a committee because Um... Brampton likes 397 01:01:08,621 --> 01:01:11,181 to have it They're required to have it And if 398 01:01:11,202 --> 01:01:14,541 information is being kept from the accessibility committee on purpose 399 01:01:15,522 --> 01:01:19,341 So that certain accessibility features Don't need to be installed. 400 01:01:20,256 --> 01:01:23,115 Or I really don't know the reason behind this to 401 01:01:23,115 --> 01:01:31,331 be honest Um. I'm just... I'm incredibly frustrated and disappointed 402 01:01:31,912 --> 01:01:35,011 Um... I realise that I'm a volunteer on this committee 403 01:01:35,112 --> 01:01:38,771 But I am also a building code and accessibility consultant 404 01:01:39,272 --> 01:01:43,251 So I am knowledgeable in this realm I can read 405 01:01:43,291 --> 01:01:45,091 drawings So if you put something in front of me 406 01:01:45,112 --> 01:01:47,091 that is not correct I'm gonna call you out on 407 01:01:47,091 --> 01:01:55,191 it. So and we appreciate that. But just to clarify 408 01:01:56,412 --> 01:01:59,991 The downtown vitalization Project is being done by a separate 409 01:01:59,991 --> 01:02:03,111 team And is completely separate Project This is a complete 410 01:02:03,292 --> 01:02:06,711 street standard update To be fair This should have been 411 01:02:06,812 --> 01:02:11,191 done long before the revitalization Project We have tactile direction 412 01:02:11,231 --> 01:02:17,380 indicators use properly at peel Memorial hospital. So the excuse 413 01:02:17,401 --> 01:02:20,340 for them to be used incorrectly In addition to that 414 01:02:20,521 --> 01:02:23,860 It's not just the tactile direction indicators that were used 415 01:02:23,961 --> 01:02:28,820 incorrectly You don't have any contrast on the tactile Um... 416 01:02:29,161 --> 01:02:32,740 Attention indicators The clear width of the sidewalk does not 417 01:02:32,841 --> 01:02:36,160 meet city of Brampton Minimum standards There's trees in the 418 01:02:36,201 --> 01:02:42,076 way There are... Planters garbages in the way Um... And 419 01:02:42,116 --> 01:02:46,476 again I reiterate that this is a huge liability for 420 01:02:46,497 --> 01:02:49,996 the city of Brampton Um It's a huge safety issue 421 01:02:50,097 --> 01:02:55,036 for citizens And this You know Do we not want 422 01:02:55,036 --> 01:02:58,796 to be leaders in the accessibility realm rather than trying 423 01:02:58,836 --> 01:03:03,676 to cut corners? And slip things by the accessibility Advisory 424 01:03:03,716 --> 01:03:07,680 Committee. And I recognise that this is not a question 425 01:03:07,701 --> 01:03:10,800 to you This is a question to city of Brampton. 426 01:03:13,275 --> 01:03:16,054 Transit team or the Rhodes team as well as The 427 01:03:16,094 --> 01:03:22,624 Accessibility Team What's going on here? So we're gonna try 428 01:03:22,645 --> 01:03:26,304 our best to keep the Accessibility Team at the Sear 429 01:03:26,304 --> 01:03:29,424 Brampton and The Accessibility Committee has involved as they would 430 01:03:29,424 --> 01:03:35,344 like in the Complete Street Standard Project Um, we can... 431 01:03:37,285 --> 01:03:39,324 Right now again As I mentioned We're still in the 432 01:03:39,324 --> 01:03:42,624 early stages And nothing has been finalised for this update 433 01:03:43,045 --> 01:03:46,864 And we are looking for your feedback Moving forward for 434 01:03:46,864 --> 01:03:51,264 any future projects Currently we don't have My understanding is 435 01:03:51,304 --> 01:03:54,784 we don't have a standard For that delete Nation between 436 01:03:54,965 --> 01:03:58,144 sidewalks and cycle tracks So that's something we're trying to 437 01:03:58,144 --> 01:04:04,750 address through this standard update project. Um I would like 438 01:04:04,790 --> 01:04:10,030 to ask whoever is responsible for the Providealization Project that 439 01:04:10,070 --> 01:04:13,310 Um... They... I mean I don't know what we can 440 01:04:13,571 --> 01:04:16,590 ask Because I feel like my hands are tied But... 441 01:04:16,771 --> 01:04:18,350 I would like to ask them to come to The 442 01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:20,590 next meeting to speak to this I thought they were 443 01:04:21,171 --> 01:04:25,142 supposed to come to this meeting In fact. I Wouldn't 444 01:04:25,163 --> 01:04:35,092 have information on that Sorry. Uh I would 445 01:04:35,092 --> 01:04:37,812 like to second Vanessa's point of view I think the 446 01:04:37,833 --> 01:04:41,652 city has been substantial amount of money The River Tization 447 01:04:41,692 --> 01:04:45,412 Uh... The Downtown Corps Uh... Obviously The tiles came They 448 01:04:45,452 --> 01:04:48,532 were ordered for a reason I think that... With consulting 449 01:04:48,953 --> 01:04:51,252 And we have a team of professionals that are supposed 450 01:04:51,292 --> 01:04:54,452 to look after these jobs And obviously I believe one 451 01:04:54,452 --> 01:04:56,532 of the slides shows that he came out in 2021 452 01:04:57,433 --> 01:04:59,652 Way before that We really got it down to the 453 01:04:59,673 --> 01:05:02,212 brass tack So the finishing of the product So I 454 01:05:02,212 --> 01:05:06,692 think... I would like to second the Wenesis set in 455 01:05:06,692 --> 01:05:09,812 terms of having somebody come to the next one and 456 01:05:09,812 --> 01:05:12,692 explain What is going to be done going forward? Obviously 457 01:05:13,113 --> 01:05:15,652 there is a product that People that use a white 458 01:05:15,753 --> 01:05:18,052 cane Are going to assume that it is a good 459 01:05:18,633 --> 01:05:21,172 An install properly product And if they're going to be 460 01:05:21,172 --> 01:05:25,332 bumping into garbage cans going into the bicycle lanes Possibly 461 01:05:25,372 --> 01:05:27,812 end up on the street hitting a light pole All 462 01:05:27,812 --> 01:05:29,572 of those things I think I think we owe it 463 01:05:29,612 --> 01:05:32,532 to the citizens of this great city That needs to 464 01:05:32,532 --> 01:05:36,052 be looked at That needs to be addressed So just 465 01:05:36,092 --> 01:05:39,572 like Vanessa said we are an accessibly advisory team So 466 01:05:39,612 --> 01:05:41,972 we're not adhered to request But we would like to 467 01:05:42,012 --> 01:05:46,692 see a proper fix to this I mean just leaving 468 01:05:46,793 --> 01:05:47,892 it the way It is I don't think it's correct 469 01:05:48,553 --> 01:05:51,812 Um sorry Ninja I was just going to add to 470 01:05:51,812 --> 01:05:55,972 that Um... The additional items It's not just The tactile 471 01:05:56,012 --> 01:05:59,652 direction indicators It's the tactile Tension indicators It's the clear 472 01:05:59,753 --> 01:06:02,372 width of the path It's the interruptions in the path 473 01:06:02,873 --> 01:06:07,252 Um... Also if you look at the corner of Queen 474 01:06:08,073 --> 01:06:13,298 and Theatre Lane or. Queen and Theatre Lane Where the 475 01:06:13,298 --> 01:06:16,818 tactile direction indicators were added Um, they actually Because of 476 01:06:16,858 --> 01:06:20,898 where they're located And because the... Width of the sidewalk 477 01:06:20,919 --> 01:06:23,058 is so narrow It almost takes up the whole sidewalk 478 01:06:23,098 --> 01:06:28,098 itself And I'm delegating later on in this... Um... In 479 01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:32,585 this meeting And we have some photos to share. Thank 480 01:06:32,585 --> 01:06:34,025 you for this Vanessa What I was going to suggest 481 01:06:34,286 --> 01:06:37,705 If you believe your item on the discussion about the 482 01:06:37,745 --> 01:06:42,025 revitalization Project is tied to this Item You can ask 483 01:06:42,126 --> 01:06:45,065 the habit brought up to be discussed this time Okay 484 01:06:45,166 --> 01:06:48,105 I would like to end of the discussion We'll have 485 01:06:48,105 --> 01:06:50,665 a motion The motion will be to receive this Presentation 486 01:06:51,166 --> 01:06:55,476 Okay and to receive your discussion item. Yes please That 487 01:06:55,476 --> 01:06:59,977 would be great. So I would like to ask. For 488 01:07:00,398 --> 01:07:05,171 Ocean. Or we can. Not to get to see viewers 489 01:07:05,211 --> 01:07:06,531 now I need to ask for a motion or no. 490 01:07:09,909 --> 01:07:19,065 This. Is kind of part of the. But before we 491 01:07:19,065 --> 01:07:22,585 do that Um... We have a couple People Online Let's 492 01:07:22,606 --> 01:07:24,905 see what they want to discuss If it's tied to 493 01:07:25,566 --> 01:07:29,945 Um... What Vanessa has to... Is item on the agenda 494 01:07:29,966 --> 01:07:34,165 Then we'll wait until we bring the item forward. Before 495 01:07:34,586 --> 01:07:38,165 our discussion happens So the two people online Would you 496 01:07:38,165 --> 01:07:40,965 be... Do you want to ask the questions now Or 497 01:07:40,965 --> 01:07:44,325 get Vanessa's Presentation And then ask the questions For both 498 01:07:44,506 --> 01:07:48,541 Presentations at that point. Um I think Mina's best with 499 01:07:48,562 --> 01:07:50,381 Vanessa Because I was going to bring it up as 500 01:07:50,381 --> 01:07:54,301 well from The Downtown Core I do take Transit In 501 01:07:54,301 --> 01:07:55,981 some place I had to go from the From getting 502 01:07:56,002 --> 01:08:02,175 off to walking. I had Like a horrible experience. And 503 01:08:02,215 --> 01:08:05,375 it's unfortunate of it being an afterthought But I have 504 01:08:05,375 --> 01:08:09,935 to reiterate Many times when these things are discussed They're 505 01:08:09,935 --> 01:08:13,531 only thinking of the mobility. And people who may have 506 01:08:13,952 --> 01:08:16,571 You know partially blind or blind And there's many invisible 507 01:08:16,832 --> 01:08:21,051 disabilities that are just as impacted For myself having seizures 508 01:08:21,312 --> 01:08:28,392 So it's totally Inaccessible. Uh Thanks Michelle I was I 509 01:08:28,432 --> 01:08:30,952 was merely asking if you would like to hold your 510 01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:33,352 questions Both you and Sherry I see your hander up 511 01:08:33,693 --> 01:08:36,392 And we can have Michelle Presenter Presentation at this moment 512 01:08:36,973 --> 01:08:39,912 ahead of schedule And then all questions could be referred 513 01:08:39,912 --> 01:08:43,272 to both of those Presentations If you guys are okay 514 01:08:43,272 --> 01:08:45,592 with that Maybe put your hands down We'll go through 515 01:08:46,093 --> 01:08:49,112 Vanessa's Presentation And then You'll be one and two Uh... 516 01:08:49,213 --> 01:08:54,973 To go ahead and ask questions to either Presentation. Sherry 517 01:08:55,013 --> 01:08:57,364 Is that okay with you as well? Um I just 518 01:08:57,364 --> 01:09:00,484 wanted to say that I'm in supporting Uh and Vanessa 519 01:09:00,505 --> 01:09:03,444 and having somebody come to discuss this further That's all 520 01:09:03,865 --> 01:09:07,566 Thanks Sherry. Alright So at this point We're going to 521 01:09:07,566 --> 01:09:09,526 allow Vanessa to go ahead and do our Presentation And 522 01:09:09,566 --> 01:09:15,456 we'll take questions. Which is item 7. 1 And then 523 01:09:15,477 --> 01:09:17,696 at that point we can have questions for both Presentations 524 01:09:18,597 --> 01:09:21,056 And we'll go from there Thank you very much Vanessa 525 01:09:21,317 --> 01:09:26,828 Um. 7. 1 Discussion by Vanessa Tantelo Co - chair 526 01:09:27,009 --> 01:09:32,441 Regarding Accessibility issues identified for the downtown Rivalization Project. Vanessa 527 01:09:32,441 --> 01:09:36,484 You have the floor. Great Thank you Nuno Um So 528 01:09:36,524 --> 01:09:41,444 as I previously discussed Um we have some serious issues 529 01:09:41,545 --> 01:09:46,244 with the city of Brampton Downtown Revitalization Project Um... Where 530 01:09:46,505 --> 01:09:51,913 the sidewalk was Um... I guess I guess not really 531 01:09:51,934 --> 01:09:55,833 extended Um... But it was replaced with the new granite 532 01:09:55,934 --> 01:10:00,553 stone Um... And in addition to that The parking lanes 533 01:10:00,593 --> 01:10:04,553 were converted into What I'm been told are bike lanes 534 01:10:04,553 --> 01:10:08,233 But then... On them to really identify them as such 535 01:10:08,654 --> 01:10:12,793 Um... Or does it align to the city of Brampton 536 01:10:13,294 --> 01:10:18,470 Bike path standards? Um... Possibly the reason for this Um... 537 01:10:18,491 --> 01:10:24,710 Maybe they haven't... Put in the signage yet But... This 538 01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:27,990 is how it looks today Um... Some of the photos 539 01:10:28,091 --> 01:10:33,990 that we included were prior to the tactile Attention indicators 540 01:10:34,171 --> 01:10:36,870 being installed Which are The truncated domes That you see 541 01:10:36,910 --> 01:10:41,030 here Um... And as you can see The tactile tension 542 01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:45,253 indicator comes right into the sidewalk Um... These are also 543 01:10:45,434 --> 01:10:48,613 required to have a contrast As per the city of 544 01:10:48,714 --> 01:10:54,693 Brampton Um... Accessibility Technical guidelines Um... And this is something 545 01:10:54,714 --> 01:11:00,613 that we see It's... It's not anything new Um... You 546 01:11:00,613 --> 01:11:03,813 know The sidewalk intersections throughout The neighbourhoods You see sort 547 01:11:03,813 --> 01:11:11,093 of that... Um... Sort of rusted iron Um... Tactile Attention 548 01:11:11,194 --> 01:11:14,133 indicators before you get to The intersection Um... But in 549 01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:17,493 this case I guess I had an effort to keep 550 01:11:18,314 --> 01:11:22,933 the material consistent There was no colour contrast So first 551 01:11:22,933 --> 01:11:27,229 of all These were installed. Late Um... Without any sort 552 01:11:27,229 --> 01:11:32,989 of Additional signage or safety Um... Until they were installed 553 01:11:33,730 --> 01:11:36,189 Now that they have been installed It's clear that the 554 01:11:36,370 --> 01:11:39,549 contrast is not there Um... You can also see in 555 01:11:39,549 --> 01:11:43,869 this photo The tactile direction indicator That leads right into 556 01:11:43,869 --> 01:11:49,869 the lamp post And as per Kate's Um... Presentation earlier 557 01:11:50,450 --> 01:11:53,949 Um... She did indicate that these are to guide someone 558 01:11:54,370 --> 01:11:58,909 Um... Who has... A vision disability Down a safe path 559 01:11:59,010 --> 01:12:02,029 using their white cane Um This is a standard that 560 01:12:02,029 --> 01:12:06,029 has been adopted by a whole community And... And to 561 01:12:06,029 --> 01:12:10,749 use it for another use Um... Is quite frankly dangerous 562 01:12:11,570 --> 01:12:17,192 Um... When I... Inquired with the Accessibility Team about this 563 01:12:17,933 --> 01:12:23,192 Um... I was constantly put off Um... And it just... 564 01:12:23,293 --> 01:12:25,032 It very much felt like you wanted me to go 565 01:12:25,053 --> 01:12:28,472 away And I'm I'm not gonna go away Because I 566 01:12:28,472 --> 01:12:32,552 feel very strongly about The safety of our citizens Um... 567 01:12:34,532 --> 01:12:37,151 The last communication that I had from the city of 568 01:12:37,191 --> 01:12:41,791 Brampton team Was that the consultant who designed it indicated 569 01:12:41,892 --> 01:12:43,871 There was nothing telling them But they couldn't use it 570 01:12:43,911 --> 01:12:47,871 for that purpose And That in my opinion That's a 571 01:12:47,871 --> 01:12:50,831 very ignorant statement Um... Especially when we're dealing with something 572 01:12:51,252 --> 01:12:59,140 as sensitive As accessibility Um... Again This is... This tactile 573 01:12:59,641 --> 01:13:03,940 Uh... Direction indicator has been adopted by The Disability Community 574 01:13:03,961 --> 01:13:06,820 to lead them down a safe path And I don't 575 01:13:06,820 --> 01:13:08,500 know if anybody in this room could tell me that 576 01:13:08,521 --> 01:13:11,140 this is a safe path When you're going right into 577 01:13:11,241 --> 01:13:17,637 a lamppost. In addition to that Um... The sidewalks downtown 578 01:13:18,138 --> 01:13:24,277 We're already narrow Um... And adding... I mean adding the 579 01:13:24,378 --> 01:13:27,637 bike Lane didn't really improve the width of this Um... 580 01:13:28,458 --> 01:13:32,837 It's definitely again Not meeting The width at certain points 581 01:13:33,338 --> 01:13:38,517 to meet the city of Brampton Accessibility guidelines Um... In 582 01:13:38,538 --> 01:13:48,047 addition to that Um... Just make it up Here. If 583 01:13:48,068 --> 01:13:52,761 we could just scroll down The photos Please. So this 584 01:13:52,801 --> 01:13:56,121 was before The Tactile Direction Decaters were installed Um... You 585 01:13:56,121 --> 01:14:04,383 can see here that... There's almost no path. Um... Someone 586 01:14:04,383 --> 01:14:07,343 who's walking on a sidewalk So someone using a mobility 587 01:14:07,364 --> 01:14:11,983 device Would fall into the dirt Um... If they have 588 01:14:11,983 --> 01:14:14,543 a guide dog with them They're not enough room There 589 01:14:14,964 --> 01:14:17,663 Um... Possibly You are gonna put The Greats there But 590 01:14:18,964 --> 01:14:21,754 as. As of The last time I visited They were 591 01:14:21,754 --> 01:14:24,394 not installed If we could scroll down a bit more 592 01:14:24,575 --> 01:14:30,539 Please. Um This is also an incredibly dangerous situation I'm 593 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,899 not sure exactly what happened here Um... But it looks 594 01:14:33,939 --> 01:14:37,979 like there was some artificial ramping done to bring The 595 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:45,179 sidewalk up to the existing Um... Business entrance And probably 596 01:14:45,179 --> 01:14:48,619 was done with good intention But there's no tactile attention 597 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,139 indicator The drop - off Um... It's not You know 598 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,979 properly ramp to the width is incredibly narrow Um... This 599 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:01,979 is not Um... The proper way to install accessibility Especially 600 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:10,556 when this is a Multi - million dollar Project. Um... 601 01:15:10,657 --> 01:15:13,916 What I had shared with The City of Brampton Accessibility 602 01:15:13,937 --> 01:15:19,196 Team... Was tactile The description of tactile Direction indicators in 603 01:15:19,196 --> 01:15:22,396 the Toronto Accessibility Design Guidelines And I also connected them 604 01:15:22,436 --> 01:15:26,796 with the city of Ottawa Um... Accessibility team who are 605 01:15:26,796 --> 01:15:34,556 piloting those tactile Um... Indicators to separate a bike path. 606 01:15:34,737 --> 01:15:42,349 And a walking path. Scroll down please. And again just 607 01:15:42,389 --> 01:15:47,949 reiterating So the image on the bottom Um the tactile 608 01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:51,469 direction indicators are leading you right into the intersection Not 609 01:15:51,469 --> 01:15:55,069 even on to the pedestrian path Um So this is 610 01:15:55,109 --> 01:15:58,109 This is a significant issue As I mentioned When I 611 01:15:58,149 --> 01:16:02,589 reached out The day after our last meeting That this 612 01:16:02,629 --> 01:16:06,189 is a huge liability issue for the city... It's a 613 01:16:06,189 --> 01:16:09,389 huge financial issue Because it needs to be resolved sooner 614 01:16:09,389 --> 01:16:12,189 than later Um... Because more people are just gonna get 615 01:16:12,210 --> 01:16:15,629 hurt Um... You know Thank you Michelle for sharing your 616 01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:21,709 experience of walking downtown with the new sidewalks Um but 617 01:16:21,709 --> 01:16:26,509 this is incredibly disappointing And this is not how a 618 01:16:26,549 --> 01:16:30,189 leader and accessibility should be Um... You know putting their 619 01:16:30,189 --> 01:16:34,829 best foot forward And I'm very disappointed that... Um... As 620 01:16:34,869 --> 01:16:36,829 far as I understand And I've been on this committee 621 01:16:36,850 --> 01:16:38,749 for the last two and a half years We were 622 01:16:38,749 --> 01:16:44,509 not consulted Um... We're always very happy to review things 623 01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:47,549 I have always been very supportive of The Accessibility Team 624 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:54,296 to review things One asked And I just... I Feel 625 01:16:54,296 --> 01:16:55,816 like it's a bit of a farce to be honest 626 01:16:57,197 --> 01:17:04,856 And... It's very disappointing That... Instead of working together Um... 627 01:17:05,517 --> 01:17:10,776 Improve accessibility in Brampton It feels like things are Um... 628 01:17:11,517 --> 01:17:15,336 Not being brought to the committee for specific reasons That 629 01:17:15,517 --> 01:17:21,273 I'm unclear of. Um... And... At this point I will 630 01:17:21,294 --> 01:17:25,753 be Contacting the ministry about The frustration that I've been 631 01:17:25,854 --> 01:17:28,033 facing on this committee over the last two and a 632 01:17:28,033 --> 01:17:31,113 half years Because this is not The first time Accessibility 633 01:17:31,214 --> 01:17:39,673 features have been... Not installed correctly And... Frankly I'm very 634 01:17:39,854 --> 01:17:43,113 frustrated to sit on this committee and have my hands 635 01:17:43,113 --> 01:17:52,139 completely tied. Because I'm a volunteer. Thank you. Thank you 636 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:58,459 for your presentation Uh... At this point will allow questions 637 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:04,299 for both Presentations of 5. 1 and 7 Sorry And 638 01:18:04,299 --> 01:18:08,539 7. 1 Uh They're close together And so if anybody 639 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,599 has a question Uh... For either Presentation Uh... You can 640 01:18:12,599 --> 01:18:14,619 raise your hand up now And ask those questions Thank 641 01:18:14,619 --> 01:18:22,512 you. Frank will go ahead. Thank you Um... That's a 642 01:18:22,613 --> 01:18:26,432 very disturbing Uh... Sion going on I'm just wondering if 643 01:18:26,773 --> 01:18:34,148 maybe Perhaps. Uh... The accessibility team could explain Um... A 644 01:18:34,148 --> 01:18:39,108 little bit more detail about Um... What the standards are. 645 01:18:39,976 --> 01:18:43,475 Been developed over the years Because Uh... As I look 646 01:18:43,515 --> 01:18:49,636 at this I'm thinking This is a strange Situation. Um... 647 01:18:49,737 --> 01:18:52,436 And even though I don't necessarily have him Brenton anymore 648 01:18:53,097 --> 01:18:55,956 Uh... It's very concerning So I just want to double 649 01:18:55,996 --> 01:18:59,396 check With what's been done And how... How it's been 650 01:18:59,396 --> 01:19:08,563 implemented Thank you. Uh... Go ahead Sorry Legends Late of 651 01:19:08,744 --> 01:19:11,763 services You have the floor Thank you Chair And through 652 01:19:11,763 --> 01:19:16,314 you My name's Genevieve I'm the city clerk. And uh... 653 01:19:17,455 --> 01:19:19,554 This is an issue very important to all of us. 654 01:19:20,743 --> 01:19:24,242 So thank you for your questions Before we get into... 655 01:19:24,263 --> 01:19:25,762 Sorry Could you just speak to the mic that we 656 01:19:25,762 --> 01:19:27,562 have for people online They might not be able to 657 01:19:27,562 --> 01:19:30,082 hear you Thank you So I just want to thank 658 01:19:30,082 --> 01:19:33,522 you all for your questions Good questions Very important concerns 659 01:19:34,183 --> 01:19:38,002 We all understand The importance of having complete information And 660 01:19:38,023 --> 01:19:43,014 you don't have it. And we don't either. Unfortunately we 661 01:19:43,014 --> 01:19:46,329 don't have the project team members here today. I can't 662 01:19:46,510 --> 01:19:49,849 speculate I can't answer for them I'm not the project 663 01:19:49,950 --> 01:19:54,075 expert. There's very little about it outside of the accessibility 664 01:19:54,176 --> 01:19:57,275 teams work that I could speak to It's not their 665 01:19:57,275 --> 01:20:02,866 project. They comment on drawings as they're provided them. I 666 01:20:02,906 --> 01:20:05,826 am here though to support this committee and the committee's 667 01:20:05,866 --> 01:20:11,610 work. And our accessibility team. As you know this team 668 01:20:13,151 --> 01:20:15,690 They work day in and day out with accessibility It 669 01:20:15,711 --> 01:20:19,690 is the focus of their work every single day They're 670 01:20:19,711 --> 01:20:24,719 deeply committed. As individuals and as a team. To identifying 671 01:20:24,740 --> 01:20:30,879 barriers Removing barriers raising awareness and advancing accessibility across our 672 01:20:30,879 --> 01:20:33,528 city For everybody. And I want to assure you that 673 01:20:33,629 --> 01:20:39,594 this commitment remains unwavering. It is unwavering from this team. 674 01:20:41,529 --> 01:20:43,988 Um... And I'm proud to be part of this team. 675 01:20:44,964 --> 01:20:47,853 I don't have all of the answers. I don't have 676 01:20:48,114 --> 01:20:51,656 The answers you're looking for today at all. But what 677 01:20:51,656 --> 01:20:54,216 I can do is ensure you that your questions Your 678 01:20:54,216 --> 01:20:57,576 concerns are brought back to the appropriate project team We 679 01:20:57,597 --> 01:21:00,776 are committed as a team to obtaining The Information that 680 01:21:00,877 --> 01:21:05,512 you need to work through these questions. Both thoughtfully and 681 01:21:05,533 --> 01:21:09,103 thoroughly. Don't know what the answer is going to be 682 01:21:09,204 --> 01:21:11,663 I don't know what the fixes can be We all 683 01:21:11,663 --> 01:21:16,652 see the pictures. Um... There needs to be a great 684 01:21:16,753 --> 01:21:21,499 deal more conversation. And that's what we can commit to 685 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,779 today That's what I can commit to And I appreciate 686 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,859 your advocacy I appreciate the persistence on these matters It 687 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,939 is important But I want you to know we share 688 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,948 the same goal. We share the same goal of making 689 01:21:33,969 --> 01:21:37,868 our community Accessible and inclusive And I will do my 690 01:21:37,889 --> 01:21:41,521 best. To ensure that your feedback That feedback is received 691 01:21:42,262 --> 01:21:47,958 And considered by the project team. And unfortunately That's all 692 01:21:47,998 --> 01:21:50,758 I can promise for today Jenevieve With all due respect 693 01:21:51,499 --> 01:21:54,038 Um I don't believe that The best has been done 694 01:21:54,299 --> 01:21:56,438 Because I've been flagging this since the end of May 695 01:21:57,019 --> 01:21:59,638 And every response I've gotten back when I followed up 696 01:21:59,979 --> 01:22:04,598 I've either been ghosted Or I've been told Oh we're 697 01:22:04,699 --> 01:22:07,158 trying to get a hold of the project team Oh 698 01:22:07,739 --> 01:22:11,398 The consultant said this If you were that committed to 699 01:22:11,739 --> 01:22:17,158 accessibility You would not pass along Um... The staff has 700 01:22:17,179 --> 01:22:21,365 answered The issue to the best of the ability. Um... 701 01:22:21,706 --> 01:22:24,085 Anything you say here now There was we have no 702 01:22:24,106 --> 01:22:26,965 response Well Chandra You were copied on the email as 703 01:22:26,965 --> 01:22:29,525 well And Suel has the city clerk And the accessibility 704 01:22:29,786 --> 01:22:31,685 stuff So they are aware Alright so But everything has 705 01:22:31,706 --> 01:22:35,205 been seven already So at this point There's no reason 706 01:22:35,706 --> 01:22:39,605 for you to I disagree Chandra Because their last Genovieves 707 01:22:39,706 --> 01:22:43,605 last response Was that the consultant said there was nothing 708 01:22:44,906 --> 01:22:49,283 Saying that they couldn't use those for that. Sorry. We 709 01:22:49,283 --> 01:22:53,519 are going to turn off the. Mic. If. You exist. 710 01:22:54,762 --> 01:22:57,988 Je. We are. They stop by this one. That's why 711 01:22:58,009 --> 01:23:02,348 the city Club. Is here. To. Clarify Corruptions been. Happening. 712 01:23:03,935 --> 01:23:08,100 This. Has been brought. The issues have been brought to 713 01:23:08,521 --> 01:23:12,740 the planning department And I believe to the project team 714 01:23:12,841 --> 01:23:17,446 as well. Chandra I would like to be noted in 715 01:23:17,486 --> 01:23:19,926 a minute I would just like to disagree with that 716 01:23:20,027 --> 01:23:23,926 Because I was told in that correspondence that you were 717 01:23:23,966 --> 01:23:27,976 going to have somebody come to the meeting tonight. From 718 01:23:28,016 --> 01:23:32,867 the Project Team. So through your chair. We were expecting 719 01:23:33,048 --> 01:23:35,427 somebody from the Project Team to join us tonight They 720 01:23:35,528 --> 01:23:37,907 were not able to attend I can't speak for them. 721 01:23:38,733 --> 01:23:41,832 Okay I can't speak to the project itself Or why 722 01:23:42,893 --> 01:23:46,552 it is at the position it's out I appreciate this 723 01:23:46,573 --> 01:23:51,689 is frustrating Particularly when the outstanding questions. I didn't put 724 01:23:51,689 --> 01:23:54,569 together a response from the consultant That came directly from 725 01:23:54,609 --> 01:24:01,316 the Project Team. And... I believe they felt they responded. 726 01:24:02,791 --> 01:24:05,890 The best they could with the information they had But 727 01:24:05,930 --> 01:24:09,570 at this point really I'm unable to provide any further 728 01:24:09,591 --> 01:24:13,250 answers I can't answer on their behalf And unless there's 729 01:24:13,290 --> 01:24:16,370 a new question I can assist with Um... I've responded 730 01:24:16,391 --> 01:24:18,130 as much as I'm able So I would just like 731 01:24:18,231 --> 01:24:20,850 the minutes to reflect that I've spent the last three 732 01:24:20,890 --> 01:24:26,451 months trying to get information from This team. It's not 733 01:24:26,712 --> 01:24:28,611 a last - minute item that was added to the 734 01:24:28,712 --> 01:24:32,691 agenda I've been flagging it since The day before The 735 01:24:32,872 --> 01:24:35,091 day after the last meeting And that's all I'll say 736 01:24:35,091 --> 01:24:37,731 about it Um, moving forward Um... I would like to 737 01:24:37,752 --> 01:24:41,251 ask that Um... The revitalization team is at The next 738 01:24:41,291 --> 01:24:46,531 meeting And that... I would recommend that The Accessibility Team 739 01:24:46,712 --> 01:24:51,341 Conduct a full audit of what's been installed. Not just 740 01:24:51,341 --> 01:24:55,821 the tactile Direction indicators But the clear widths The contrast 741 01:24:55,842 --> 01:25:03,089 of the tactile Um... Attention indicators... And the placement of... 742 01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:12,544 Planters. Other streetscape items. If I may. Uh Frank Just... 743 01:25:12,544 --> 01:25:15,024 You think you mean Maybe what I would like to 744 01:25:15,045 --> 01:25:17,664 just add to this point I mean I understand what 745 01:25:17,704 --> 01:25:20,064 Chandra is saying I understand But finesse is saying Uh 746 01:25:20,405 --> 01:25:23,104 My point of view to this is Whatever The Oversight 747 01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:26,704 Whatever happened And I believe There is something here that 748 01:25:26,744 --> 01:25:29,664 needs to be addressed Uh I don't believe that... The 749 01:25:29,664 --> 01:25:31,744 people in the room are the right people to address 750 01:25:31,765 --> 01:25:35,104 it I think that's become quite clear Um again We 751 01:25:35,125 --> 01:25:38,224 want to people from an accessibility point of view to 752 01:25:38,325 --> 01:25:41,184 be able to enjoy What has been put down and 753 01:25:41,224 --> 01:25:43,424 make sure that it is put down properly so people 754 01:25:43,424 --> 01:25:47,824 are safe Um. Again From a chair's point of view 755 01:25:48,005 --> 01:25:50,064 I would love to see if we could have somebody 756 01:25:50,325 --> 01:25:52,464 come in from the team Uh, I think it's been 757 01:25:52,645 --> 01:25:55,184 well noted Um I know we have a couple of 758 01:25:55,445 --> 01:25:59,424 hands for questions on either one of these Presentations But 759 01:25:59,445 --> 01:26:02,784 yeah I really like going backwards I'm not trying to 760 01:26:02,885 --> 01:26:05,984 do that Uh... I know that The Accessible team Uh... 761 01:26:07,285 --> 01:26:10,304 This is my second term Serving on this committee Um... 762 01:26:10,485 --> 01:26:13,424 And so... Thank you for your work Uh... I mean 763 01:26:13,605 --> 01:26:16,144 again It could be that we having an issue that 764 01:26:16,165 --> 01:26:18,384 needs to be Resolved And I think with time It 765 01:26:18,424 --> 01:26:21,504 can be done Um... But I would like to allow 766 01:26:21,605 --> 01:26:25,344 for Franco But before Franco Michelle You had you end 767 01:26:25,344 --> 01:26:30,593 up first for Question or comment Yeah. I guess like 768 01:26:30,854 --> 01:26:33,233 You know you mentioned Um There's no reason for me 769 01:26:33,233 --> 01:26:36,433 to really share everything Because I'm very grateful that Vanessa 770 01:26:36,534 --> 01:26:40,113 had this with even pictures Because I was taking notes 771 01:26:40,294 --> 01:26:44,193 while I was in that area Downtown Also even in 772 01:26:44,193 --> 01:26:47,553 other locations Where they seem to be doing construction within 773 01:26:47,574 --> 01:26:49,393 Brand I don't know if it's because of The water 774 01:26:49,494 --> 01:26:53,393 main or other things But I know for me When 775 01:26:53,393 --> 01:26:56,833 I had to take Transit The bus literally had to 776 01:26:56,873 --> 01:26:59,393 stop And then I had to literally stand in the 777 01:26:59,414 --> 01:27:03,153 middle of the road For The bus to stop And 778 01:27:03,254 --> 01:27:06,673 I was so nervous because seizures can take place at 779 01:27:06,713 --> 01:27:08,753 any time And I could have fallen Ray into the 780 01:27:08,774 --> 01:27:12,113 road We have there being no signs at all Um. 781 01:27:13,188 --> 01:27:15,727 And since this project team has not been able to 782 01:27:15,908 --> 01:27:19,527 attend Um... I want to know We've been able to 783 01:27:19,668 --> 01:27:23,727 share the concerns As Vanessa has said from a while 784 01:27:23,767 --> 01:27:27,247 ago How would they be held accountable Like are there 785 01:27:27,287 --> 01:27:30,607 any audits taking place regarding legislation when these things are 786 01:27:31,668 --> 01:27:36,146 in fruition. Because that's partly what legislation is doing audits 787 01:27:36,647 --> 01:27:40,146 And then therefore them being held accountable and actually Then 788 01:27:40,186 --> 01:27:44,506 looking it afterthought. So I just want to put that 789 01:27:44,527 --> 01:27:48,916 forward It's kind of like a practical standard. Of actually 790 01:27:48,956 --> 01:27:52,621 doing audits. While it's in process Then wait until it's 791 01:27:52,661 --> 01:27:54,781 at the very end Or even at the beginning When 792 01:27:54,821 --> 01:28:00,621 they may send us Actually... They're proposals So I have 793 01:28:00,621 --> 01:28:03,442 to say. Thank you very much again Vanessa for what 794 01:28:03,442 --> 01:28:08,319 you shared. Thanks Michelle Thank you Michelle. Go ahead. Thank 795 01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:13,074 you Through you chair. Good questions as well. The audit 796 01:28:13,415 --> 01:28:17,554 process or anodit process is beyond the scope of this 797 01:28:17,594 --> 01:28:21,394 team Beyond The Authority But it is something that I 798 01:28:21,394 --> 01:28:25,234 will definitely raise with The senior leadership team And see 799 01:28:25,255 --> 01:28:28,994 what can be done about that I think that's Really 800 01:28:28,994 --> 01:28:32,958 valuable information to take back for their consideration. Thank you. 801 01:28:33,704 --> 01:28:37,043 Thank you And one other question I have is Um... 802 01:28:37,544 --> 01:28:40,883 In the interim How are you going to ensure that 803 01:28:41,144 --> 01:28:44,008 residents are staying safe. Until this can be dealt with. 804 01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,039 Three Sorry Through you chair Thank you for NASA I 805 01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:56,716 appreciate everything you're saying Uh more than you know. And 806 01:28:56,756 --> 01:29:00,802 in the interim. Again this team isn't the team that's 807 01:29:00,983 --> 01:29:03,282 going to be putting the interim fixes in or this 808 01:29:03,322 --> 01:29:06,482 signage or the extra pathways or whatever it takes to 809 01:29:06,522 --> 01:29:10,642 keep people safe But it's serious concerns All I can 810 01:29:10,642 --> 01:29:14,988 do is take it back and stress the urgency. That 811 01:29:15,729 --> 01:29:18,508 long before the project is done Long before any final 812 01:29:18,769 --> 01:29:21,503 fixes are done We need something right now. Right now 813 01:29:21,604 --> 01:29:26,125 to keep people safe. And I will stress it with 814 01:29:26,306 --> 01:29:29,565 it as much urgency as I possibly can That's all 815 01:29:29,565 --> 01:29:34,554 I can promise you tonight. Thank you Jenove I appreciate 816 01:29:34,594 --> 01:29:42,107 it. Frank Go ahead. So this being my third Uhm 817 01:29:42,128 --> 01:29:45,307 I know that the accessibility team has worked extremely hard 818 01:29:45,328 --> 01:29:49,947 over the years Um... So I'm going to suggest that 819 01:29:49,968 --> 01:29:54,187 maybe we have Some of us actually Uh... Do a 820 01:29:54,208 --> 01:29:59,067 walking Uh... Audit with The City Staff so that we 821 01:29:59,067 --> 01:30:06,267 can point out the deficiencies or Things that have been 822 01:30:06,768 --> 01:30:11,067 left behind for whatever the reason And try to find 823 01:30:11,808 --> 01:30:17,147 a more suitable calm approach to it That's just my 824 01:30:17,187 --> 01:30:24,135 opinion Thanks. Thank you Franco Michelle Go ahead. Yeah I 825 01:30:24,135 --> 01:30:26,055 want to add to that when I was mentioning auditing 826 01:30:26,396 --> 01:30:29,095 Make sure people disabilities are part of that audit team. 827 01:30:29,900 --> 01:30:32,679 And I don't mean just one type of disability Both 828 01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:38,519 invisible and invisible Then just following some type of checklist. 829 01:30:39,256 --> 01:30:42,595 I think it's important that the audit is done Inclusively 830 01:30:42,616 --> 01:30:45,555 with people with disabilities who can call them out of 831 01:30:45,595 --> 01:30:53,153 what the issues are. Thank You. Do we have any 832 01:30:53,334 --> 01:30:59,313 other questions from either Presentation Uh 5. 2 or 7. 833 01:30:59,334 --> 01:31:05,434 1. Seeing none do I have a motion. To receive 834 01:31:05,615 --> 01:31:11,757 items 5. 2 and 7. 1 at this time. Franka 835 01:31:11,757 --> 01:31:15,197 Spadafora here I will bring the motion forward Thank you. 836 01:31:16,465 --> 01:31:20,625 Thank you so much and you post. C. None motion 837 01:31:20,665 --> 01:31:24,705 carries both motions 5. 2 from a road at Chowdry 838 01:31:24,806 --> 01:31:31,025 Transportation Policy Planner regarding streets Complete Street start standards update 839 01:31:31,446 --> 01:31:35,825 Apologise And also from 7. 1 Discussion by Vanessa Tantalo 840 01:31:35,926 --> 01:31:39,505 co - chair regarding accessibility issues identified for the downtown 841 01:31:39,606 --> 01:31:45,976 Revitalization Project. Thank you Moving along. Uh Item number 6 842 01:31:46,557 --> 01:31:51,416 6. 1 Municipality Accessibility plan A report by Sylvia Hangham 843 01:31:51,437 --> 01:31:56,936 Accessibility coordinator Cities Clerk's Office regarding 2027 2031 Multi - 844 01:31:56,976 --> 01:32:03,386 year Accessibility Plan Draft recommendations resulting for public consultation. Thank 845 01:32:03,426 --> 01:32:08,248 you Sylvia You have the floor. You the chair Um 846 01:32:09,469 --> 01:32:16,648 this report is draft recommendations for the upcoming Uh Multi 847 01:32:16,749 --> 01:32:20,568 - year accessibility plan Which is a four - year 848 01:32:20,568 --> 01:32:26,969 plan from 2027 to 2031 Um... Attached to the report 849 01:32:27,310 --> 01:32:32,489 There is... A list of draft recommendations that we would 850 01:32:32,529 --> 01:32:36,169 like this committee to review and to provide feedback on 851 01:32:38,190 --> 01:32:43,849 and also to include any other Um... recommendations for the 852 01:32:43,870 --> 01:32:51,046 next upcoming plan. So the current 2022 to 2026 Multi 853 01:32:51,147 --> 01:32:54,966 - air Accessibility plan is done by the end of 854 01:32:55,067 --> 01:32:58,878 this year. Um... The city is required to update and 855 01:32:58,899 --> 01:33:02,398 review its Multi - year accessibility plan at least every 856 01:33:02,499 --> 01:33:07,118 five years So that's what we're doing Um... Since the 857 01:33:07,118 --> 01:33:13,120 beginning of this year. Um... The plan identifies accessibility initiatives 858 01:33:13,461 --> 01:33:16,720 and outlines the steps The city will take to continue 859 01:33:17,301 --> 01:33:21,360 to prevent and remove barriers to accessibilities in our program 860 01:33:21,861 --> 01:33:29,676 services and facilities. This report Uh... Outlines draft recommendations for 861 01:33:29,697 --> 01:33:33,516 the next Multi - air accessibility plan And it's based 862 01:33:33,556 --> 01:33:38,716 on a public consultation phase that was done Um... At... 863 01:33:38,977 --> 01:33:46,146 The spring and summer of this year. So the steps 864 01:33:46,167 --> 01:33:50,706 for developing this plan included Uh... Review of the existing 865 01:33:50,887 --> 01:33:55,426 plan Um... Deciding what should be carried over Um... This 866 01:33:55,447 --> 01:34:03,797 was done in consultation with... The... The internal stakeholders. And 867 01:34:03,797 --> 01:34:10,451 Others that were... had involvement in those initiatives. Um... The 868 01:34:10,712 --> 01:34:15,651 consultation with the community was mainly done through an online 869 01:34:15,992 --> 01:34:24,966 survey. This was... Done on an online survey available as 870 01:34:25,067 --> 01:34:29,446 an online survey The survey was also Um... shared with 871 01:34:29,787 --> 01:34:37,126 AAC. And Accessibility staff also Uh... We're able to meet 872 01:34:37,147 --> 01:34:43,366 with... Residents that the people that were interested in having 873 01:34:43,947 --> 01:34:47,757 one - on - one conversation. About the survey questions. 874 01:34:50,958 --> 01:34:57,097 So the Public Engagement for the The plan was launched 875 01:34:57,118 --> 01:35:03,013 in May and it concluded in June. It included a 876 01:35:03,013 --> 01:35:08,773 number of topics Relating to city services The design of 877 01:35:08,794 --> 01:35:16,853 Public Spaces. The City Buildings. Recreation Programs Transportation. Parks and 878 01:35:16,893 --> 01:35:24,543 trails and employment Practices. We received over 100 survey responses. 879 01:35:26,860 --> 01:35:29,959 And we were asked asking people what they thought the 880 01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:34,408 city was doing well. With regard to accessibility and what 881 01:35:34,408 --> 01:35:38,762 improvements can be made. So almost half of the responses 882 01:35:38,802 --> 01:35:42,682 that we received were from people with disabilities The other 883 01:35:42,863 --> 01:35:47,314 responses were from caregivers family and friends. And people working 884 01:35:47,335 --> 01:35:53,418 with people with disabilities. So the draft recommendations for the 885 01:35:53,759 --> 01:35:57,978 The Multi - Year Accessibility plan are included Uh... In 886 01:35:57,978 --> 01:36:03,945 attachment 1. To this report Um... They are potential action 887 01:36:04,046 --> 01:36:08,312 items. Um... Based on the feedback that we received from 888 01:36:08,493 --> 01:36:14,211 the survey. Um... So this is what the residents came 889 01:36:14,251 --> 01:36:20,144 up with. Uh... Ongoing Accessibility Initiatives from the existing plan 890 01:36:20,405 --> 01:36:23,184 will be carried forward to the new plan And you'll 891 01:36:23,184 --> 01:36:27,504 see those in the final Uh... Report that we present. 892 01:36:28,888 --> 01:36:31,987 So at this point Um... We would like you to 893 01:36:33,368 --> 01:36:37,107 have a look at the recommendations And let us know 894 01:36:37,147 --> 01:36:40,227 what your thoughts are and what should be included in 895 01:36:40,227 --> 01:36:44,917 the next Four - year plan. Are there any questions. 896 01:36:48,786 --> 01:36:53,325 Thank you for your Presentation Um Michelle you have your 897 01:36:53,325 --> 01:36:57,179 hand up If you have questions Go ahead. Um So 898 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,299 is this something that We will be able to provide 899 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:07,349 feedback. Um after this is the draft. So are we 900 01:37:07,930 --> 01:37:10,229 gonna get this copy Print It you know How are 901 01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:12,679 we gonna be able to provide feedback to this. Or 902 01:37:12,780 --> 01:37:18,498 offer assistance in any way. So it can. Through the 903 01:37:18,498 --> 01:37:22,678 chair Uh... Michelle This could be Could be through a 904 01:37:22,779 --> 01:37:26,758 phone call through a Teams meeting via email Whichever way 905 01:37:26,798 --> 01:37:30,121 you want to share your feedback. We're open to that. 906 01:37:33,449 --> 01:37:41,371 And what about actually. Participating... In any of these items. 907 01:37:42,741 --> 01:37:46,080 Is this specifically for city of Brenton staff? No To 908 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:50,080 be responsible for? No this is This is for residents 909 01:37:50,341 --> 01:37:56,400 Um The consultation is with city staff to put the 910 01:37:56,501 --> 01:38:06,000 recommendations in motion Right But the recommendations are developed by 911 01:38:06,581 --> 01:38:11,610 or come from a city of Brampton Community. So business 912 01:38:12,431 --> 01:38:15,290 As I was just getting clarification Because I know a 913 01:38:15,290 --> 01:38:17,930 couple of them I actually do So I was just 914 01:38:18,031 --> 01:38:21,930 wondering Like is there someone selected to do them already? 915 01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:27,387 Or like number one and three. Specifically. Like Is it 916 01:38:27,387 --> 01:38:29,787 something that the team any of us can be involved 917 01:38:30,048 --> 01:38:33,307 in or is it just the city of Brampton staff 918 01:38:33,568 --> 01:38:40,544 per se. City staff will be implementing The recommendations is 919 01:38:40,544 --> 01:38:41,984 I was that you want to be involved in the 920 01:38:42,245 --> 01:38:48,019 implementation. Yeah I wouldn't mind that. Just to and yeah. 921 01:38:51,862 --> 01:38:55,601 Okay we can Yeah Just because like I have that 922 01:38:55,601 --> 01:38:59,841 experience and that awareness from an invisible discipline visible Disability 923 01:38:59,881 --> 01:39:04,026 perspective. And this is part of what I do That's 924 01:39:04,026 --> 01:39:08,106 part of workshops and being able to carry on with 925 01:39:08,527 --> 01:39:11,306 the advocacy throughout of You know being a voice to 926 01:39:11,327 --> 01:39:14,426 the voice Listen belonging to part of the community I 927 01:39:14,466 --> 01:39:17,866 just find it very important when tasks are to be 928 01:39:17,866 --> 01:39:21,146 done through the plans of including people disabilities in it 929 01:39:21,327 --> 01:39:28,265 So yeah. Okay we can see how we can involve 930 01:39:28,265 --> 01:39:36,917 you and what we come up with. Thank you. 931 01:39:38,916 --> 01:39:43,869 Go ahead Vanessa. Thanks Nuno Um Just a quick question 932 01:39:44,370 --> 01:39:49,789 Sylvia in regards to these Um recommendations Um... Is there 933 01:39:49,789 --> 01:39:52,829 going to be a timeline for when they're implemented? I 934 01:39:52,869 --> 01:39:58,029 just It's quite a long list And I'm just concerned 935 01:39:58,069 --> 01:40:01,849 that it might be more than I don't know how 936 01:40:01,849 --> 01:40:06,989 long the This is a four year period So it's 937 01:40:07,029 --> 01:40:12,773 fairly significant. In terms of the amount of work So 938 01:40:12,813 --> 01:40:15,173 I just want to make sure that whatever we're putting 939 01:40:15,674 --> 01:40:24,170 forth is manageable In the term. Right. Um Sorry So 940 01:40:24,170 --> 01:40:27,450 what was the question you want Well okay So these 941 01:40:27,490 --> 01:40:35,329 are draft recommendations Um... They can be prioritized. If you 942 01:40:35,370 --> 01:40:40,469 think you feel strongly about Certain ones You can let 943 01:40:40,509 --> 01:40:48,148 us know. Do you think should be prioritized. Um... And 944 01:40:48,188 --> 01:40:51,108 then I'm just wondering in terms of the final plan 945 01:40:51,689 --> 01:40:56,468 Um... Will there be There will be an action Uh... 946 01:40:56,809 --> 01:41:03,598 Action items Um... Asigned to city staff. And those will 947 01:41:03,619 --> 01:41:10,897 have like implementation dates. And do we have in your 948 01:41:10,897 --> 01:41:13,297 opinion Sylvia Do we have enough staff to implement this. 949 01:41:15,677 --> 01:41:19,576 Uh This is throughout the city So I'm sure there's. 950 01:41:19,867 --> 01:41:23,766 There's plenty of People that will be involved in it. 951 01:41:25,217 --> 01:41:32,964 Okay Thank you. Go ahead Sorry I forget your name 952 01:41:33,065 --> 01:41:36,084 I apologise That's okay Thank you through you Chair I 953 01:41:36,084 --> 01:41:41,604 just wanted to comment on the draft plan That... Over 954 01:41:41,625 --> 01:41:46,978 the next. It would be a five - year plan 955 01:41:46,999 --> 01:41:50,178 But when do you need feedback from the committee Before 956 01:41:50,199 --> 01:41:53,058 the plan is finalised? Um By the end of the 957 01:41:53,058 --> 01:41:57,946 year. I Think before that Like by the end of 958 01:41:58,287 --> 01:42:01,226 October Maybe so that we can put the plan So 959 01:42:01,247 --> 01:42:05,226 that's what we're looking at is feedback And actually Prioritizing 960 01:42:05,247 --> 01:42:11,495 these... recommended action items would be really valuable feedback. For 961 01:42:11,756 --> 01:42:15,735 the team to implement Uh... Or to add timelines to 962 01:42:15,775 --> 01:42:18,935 the plan There is a lot of action items Some 963 01:42:19,036 --> 01:42:21,255 of them are small tasks And some of them are 964 01:42:21,255 --> 01:42:25,575 quite large undertaking So having the committee's input to the 965 01:42:25,756 --> 01:42:31,255 prioritization will make a tremendous improvement to the implementation of 966 01:42:31,356 --> 01:42:34,775 all of them We do expect to achieve all of 967 01:42:34,815 --> 01:42:38,308 these action items. And this is what the team will 968 01:42:38,329 --> 01:42:41,588 be putting forth to all of staff and to the 969 01:42:41,689 --> 01:42:45,268 senior management Council for it to be approved When Council 970 01:42:45,289 --> 01:42:50,228 approves the final plan Um... That means it's marching orders 971 01:42:50,228 --> 01:42:55,777 for staff. To start implementing. So in what order? Definitely 972 01:42:55,817 --> 01:42:59,767 looking for your feedback on that. And I think if 973 01:43:00,188 --> 01:43:02,807 the at any point with any of the implementation pieces 974 01:43:03,948 --> 01:43:08,087 An opportunity to engage the committee. Absolutely Uh... We will 975 01:43:08,127 --> 01:43:10,967 be doing that And I think Lessons learned That would 976 01:43:10,967 --> 01:43:14,456 be top priority. Uh Thank you You actually answered my 977 01:43:14,477 --> 01:43:17,854 question But thank you very much Franco Go ahead. Um 978 01:43:17,955 --> 01:43:21,454 So my question is in the implementation process I know 979 01:43:21,494 --> 01:43:26,254 that Uh... The city cleric when they hire new hires 980 01:43:26,275 --> 01:43:30,334 They go through a training session I'm just wondering if 981 01:43:30,515 --> 01:43:33,854 maybe It would be a good idea to potentially Uh... 982 01:43:34,755 --> 01:43:39,054 Make people Go through the training of these recommendations Once 983 01:43:39,054 --> 01:43:41,774 they are implemented Because I think it will make it 984 01:43:41,795 --> 01:43:45,854 easier for all staff Not just The accessibility team But 985 01:43:45,955 --> 01:43:50,734 everyone involved To have that I know I've participated in 986 01:43:51,075 --> 01:43:55,134 a... In a simulation... Of what it's like to be 987 01:43:55,174 --> 01:43:58,254 in a wheelchair What it's like to have cognitive disabilities 988 01:43:58,355 --> 01:44:00,334 And I think that might be a good way to 989 01:44:00,355 --> 01:44:08,576 implement these recommendation Thanks. Alright, thank you very much for 990 01:44:08,677 --> 01:44:12,576 everybody Seeing no other questions Can I have a motion 991 01:44:12,616 --> 01:44:19,216 to accept The... Report by Sylvia Ingham Accessibility coordinator City 992 01:44:19,317 --> 01:44:23,056 Clerk's office regarding the 2027 2031 Multi - year Accessibility 993 01:44:23,077 --> 01:44:32,124 Plan Draft recommendations resulting from public consultation be received. Renko 994 01:44:32,164 --> 01:44:36,524 here I will set the motion through Thank You Franco 995 01:44:36,705 --> 01:44:44,725 Any opposed. Seeing noun motion is carry 7. 1 has 996 01:44:44,725 --> 01:44:51,113 already been Delt with. Do we have any correspondence. No 997 01:44:51,214 --> 01:44:55,353 correspondence And I can see that there's no Information items 998 01:44:55,393 --> 01:45:00,544 as well. Um Item number 10 Question period pertaining to 999 01:45:00,645 --> 01:45:04,950 matters on the agenda only. Do we have anybody with 1000 01:45:05,051 --> 01:45:11,220 any questions regarding The Agenda. Seeing None We'll move on 1001 01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:17,704 to item 11 Which is the public question period. And 1002 01:45:17,744 --> 01:45:21,544 seeing none Uh We'll move to item number 12 Age 1003 01:45:21,544 --> 01:45:28,352 Adjournment Can I have a motion to adjourn. Otion to 1004 01:45:28,392 --> 01:45:33,708 adjourn That's a tantalo. Thank you very much This meeting 1005 01:45:33,748 --> 01:45:35,308 is now journed.