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I got seven. You guys all got seven.

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>> Good evening everyone and uh welcome and

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thank you for coming out on such a hot

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steamy evening. I'm going to break with

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tradition here just a little bit because

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I would like to uh make an introduction.

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Uh, Chief, can you come forward? And

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Officer Fontana,

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uh, this is our police chief, as you all

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know, but this lovely little lady

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walking with her is our newest police

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officer, uh, fresh out of the academy

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and

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here to uh, serve Brandon. I had the

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opportunity to meet her and and visit

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with her the other day, and I'm very, happy to have her on board.

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Um, I'll let the chief say anything

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else, but we're This is the first step

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of our rebuild. You are

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>> it

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to us from um

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and she is presently going through field

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training right now. She's attended the

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part-time academy of the police academy

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in Pittsford. And our hope is as soon as

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she's done with field training, she'll

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be on the road in a solo capacity. Um,

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and you'll be out seeing her patrolling

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the streets.

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» Thank you.

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>> Welcome.

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>> Very excited to be here.

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>> Very excited to have you.

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>> We're very excited to have you. Welcome.

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>> You want to get a picture, Steve?

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>> No. No. Steve is our uh owner and editor

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of our Brandon newspaper, and we would

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like to feature a picture of the two of

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you as our

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Good news that we get things rolling.

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Yeah, you don't want us in the history.

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>> You want to break the camera.

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» You know what? Stand just like that. We

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can see the

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Awesome.

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>> Thank you.

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beautiful

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» and we really are happy to have you and

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I'm sure some of the other board members

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will stop in and visit with you at the

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uh office when you're around. So great.

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U now moving on. We are going to do the

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uh we've got full list of meetings here.

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So we're going to start with cannabis

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control.

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I move that we adopt the uh agenda

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first as

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» we have a motion and a second on the

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agenda. Reoccurring matter is to approve

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the minute from the May 26 cannabis

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meeting.

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>> Make a motion we approve those minutes.

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>> I'll second that.

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>> Motion and a second to approve cannabis

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minutes. All in favor?

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>> I opposed. No one. Item three, it's

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three applications for

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uh tier 2 and tier one. Uh they're all

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renewals.

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» That we consider items 3, A, B, and C

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under consent agenda.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. Motion in a second to approve all

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three under consent. All in favor,

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please say I.

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Opposed. No one.

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>> Public comment or participation on

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cannabis.

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There's never any hurt on that.

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>> Motion to adjurnn cannabis.

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favor?

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>> I'll second that.

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>> Motion a second. All in favor?

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>> And we move on to liquor. cover all the

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sins in life this evening. Um the agenda

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>> I move to adopt the agenda for the

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liquor control commissioners as warned.

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>> I'll second

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>> motion in a second on the um agenda. All

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in favor say I.

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>> I.

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>> Opposed? No one. Reoccurring matters

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would be approval of the liquor minutes

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from June 23rd.

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Make a motion we approve those minutes.

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>> Second that.

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>> Motion in a second. On the minutes, all

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in favor say I.

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>> I. Oppos? No one.

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>> I move that we uh adopt a consent agenda

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for items three and four.

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» Go ahead. I'll second. We have a motion

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and a second for item three and four.

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Any discussion? None heard. All in

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favor? I

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>> I opposed. No one public comment on

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liquor.

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>> Motion to adjurnn liquor.

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>> Motion to adjurnn. Second.

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>> All in favor of joining liquor say I.

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sewer commissioners report

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agenda.

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>> Come on. Someone else.

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>> I'll make a motion to adopt the agenda.

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I'll second it.

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>> Here we go. We have a motion and a

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second to adopt the agenda. All in favor

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say I.

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>> I.

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>> Reoccurring matters is the sewer

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commissioner's minutes from June 23rd.

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>> Make a motion to approve those minutes.

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>> Okay. Motion and seconds to approve the

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minutes. All in favor of the minutes,

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please say I. I.

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And what we are here for is to consider

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purchase order for more root x root

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killer which is above the town manager's

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uh spending option and the price is

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right so we're buying it early.

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>> And this is last time too isn't it?

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>> Is this a year supply?

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fiscal year and this he believes it will

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be about about the year.

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>> I move that we approve the purchase

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order uh 12405 for Routtex in the amount

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of $12,600.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion in a second. Any additional

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discussion?

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purchase $12,600

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of Rudex, please say I.

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>> Motion to adjurnn. Sewer. Second.

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>> Motion to adjurnn. All in favor?

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agenda. First

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» I move to adopt the meeting agenda as

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presented say I I

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>> I oppose no one collect board remarks. I

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would just remind everyone that we are

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here to do the business of the town. Um

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when speaking we need you to come

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forward and speak into the microphone so

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it can be heard and state your name and

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treat everyone with respect please and

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we will have a very happy meeting. It's

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a lengthy agenda, but I think mostly

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fairly straightforward items.

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>> summer school's out. I've seen a ton and

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of kids riding without helmets,

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especially on the sidewalk, but all over

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the place. I've had brain surgery. You

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don't want it. Please, if you have kids,

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or if you are a kid who happens to be

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watching this, put on a helmet. Might

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save your life.

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I'll get off my soap box now.

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>> And it really doesn't take much of a to

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cause a traumatic brain injur.

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» Very good point. Uh reoccurring m um

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matters. We have select boards from June

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23rd, select July 7th and 11th.

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system working? Because I'm realizing we

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haven't identified ourselves at all this

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we're going to end up with will be okay.

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with um say the July 7th minutes, if you

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look at that, you have um at number one,

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you have who called the meeting to order

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and things of that nature. But when it

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gets into the discussion, it doesn't

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always attribute an individual statement

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to an individual speaker, but then when

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we get down to the motions, those were

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jotted down and so you know who made

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motions and seconds and the outcomes.

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I think it accomplishes what the open

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meeting law requires. Now,

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to say should should we state our name

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when we're making a motion?

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>> No. Uh, I'm I'm jotting down who's

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making motions and seconds and vote

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outcomes and the machine is basically

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trying to capture the content of the

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discussion.

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excuse me. And if anyone needs further

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elaboration on the discussions, those

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>> We have the recording. at the recording

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>> Yep. Okay. So, we do have a motion and a

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second to approve the two select board

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um minutes.

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say I.

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abstain on the seventh.

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>> You abstain on the seventh. You weren't

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there. Correct.

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>> Now, we get into the warrant. The reason

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there's two warrants is some are bills

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from the prior year, some are bills for

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this year.

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pleasure of the board.

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» So, I move to approve um warrant report

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63873 in the amount of $168,911.88.

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» I'll second that one. Okay.

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approve the first warrant. All in favor,

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please say I.

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>> Opposed? No one.

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Second warrant.

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>> I move that we approve warrant report

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number 6387.

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Check. Any questions on

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all of

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you please say I

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» item four, town manager report.

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>> Thank you, Mr. chair, members of the

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board, members of the public. Um, my

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report was part of the packet. I do want

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to add a couple of things to it. Uh,

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one, about twothirds of the way down the

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front page, I I submitted the report

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without finishing the sentence about the

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town clock. Apologies for that. So, the

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clock works themselves are still an open

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issue with a knowledgeable local person.

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That's the person um who with his family

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has been taking care of the clock for a

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number of years. and that person's

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working with um an outside contractor

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that is able to perhaps fabricate the

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new gear or identify a source for the

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new gear. There's a broken gear up

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there. Um I do want to call attention to

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the near completion of the town hall

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roof reslating. That project is going

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very well. They did elect, as many of

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you will have noticed, they elected not

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to put slate over the eaves at the edges

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uh because of the Boeing and so they've

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put copper there. It won't be an extra

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cost to the town and it will act like as

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a snow pan would act on on your house

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roof.

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And the work on the Sanderson covered

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bridge did start today. Uh that repair

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work should go this week. And so Pearl

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Street will not be a through street from

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7:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. daily for the

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rest of the week while they're working

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on the bridge. Um there are three

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announcements to make about vacancies on

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town boards. If you're interested on

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serving, please submit a cover sheet and

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letter of interest to me. There's a a

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voting position on the energy committee

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that generally meets the first Monday at

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4:30 p.m. And then there's two alternate

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positions. Alternates sit on the boards,

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they attend the meetings, they discuss,

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they contribute, they can be on

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subcommittees and working groups. They

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just only vote if one of the voting

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members is absent. So that's the only

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difference. There is an al an alternate

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position on the planning commission that

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meets the first Monday at six o'clock

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and there's an alternate on the

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development review board that meets the

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fourth Thursday at 7:00.

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Um

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you've met with officer Fontana tonight

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which is great. And I guess the other

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thing I would call a little bit of

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attention to um is

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whether you would like to consider

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exploring um combining these four

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meetings into one meeting. So the select

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board every year at reorganization

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designates itself as the board of

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cannabis control commissioners, the

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board of liquor commissioners, and the

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board of sewer commissioners. It's

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possible to just have one meeting with

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one agenda and one batch of minutes if

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you're not um opposed to that for a

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reason.

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I can investigate it some more.

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>> I mean I don't know if there would be

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any reason

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uh administratively that we would want

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to keep them.

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>> It's largely been separate so that the

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minutes could be searched separately.

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But I think now that minutes can be

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searched by computer and not just, you

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know, by opening a binder and looking

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from date to date to date, it's it's

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potentially going to streamline your

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operation.

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You don't have to decide anything. Just

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offering it out there.

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>> It's about all we have.

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I would like to add to your report as

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you printed it and I know it will be in

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the newspaper but we did introduce

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officer uh Fontana and u the we we are

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finally getting some activity on some

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additional interviews at the police

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department and have two other

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>> yes

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>> potential candidates in the works.

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Not going to say any more than that, but

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so that's that's good that we're working

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towards getting our police department

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back in order.

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>> U questions for the town manager from

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the board.

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Questions for the town manager on his

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report from the public? Barry.

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» Um Barry Varian. Um I live up off

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seminary. So

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» so so I get an opportunity to see the

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town hall for a bird's eye view as I

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come down at least once or twice a day.

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And I remember when we we set funds

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aside ARPA money for that roof. It was

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like a staggering amount of money.

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>> But I've been watching what those guys

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are doing and it's amazing to me they

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could even get done what they got done

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for that amount of money. I mean,

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there's a tremendous amount of labor and

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equipment and and time that goes into

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that roof. They're doing a hell of a

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job. They really are. And it looks

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great. So, um, feel good about it,

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really.

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>> Thanks.

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>> They actually put some uh some

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additional plywood down for some wood

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that was rotten and whatever. So, I

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mean, this was a big job. Ken Kulage.

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>> Ken Kulage on the roof. Thank you.

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>> Um, I did have a question. So, I know in

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the quote when it was presented, there

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was the option of doing the plywood,

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which when they did that one quarter, we

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knew that it was going to be pretty

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rotten, which

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kind of turned out to be. What other

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damage was there? How bad was it up

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there? So, um I did not see it

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firsthand, but the uh

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>> pictures online fact

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>> pictures Yeah. the pictures that were

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taken by Carl Spardella, who's the owner

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of the slate company, um he indicated it

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was it was predominantly at the eaves

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where the most rot was. Um I don't think

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they had to replace any of the joists or

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anything, but there were then spots

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around chimneys and so forth where

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natural spots where water would collect.

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They they didn't end up redecking the

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whole roof, both sides. They ended up

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redecking sections of it in plywood.

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It's

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>> good. Put all that work into it. Might

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as well make sure the

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>> underllayment is

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>> right.

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>> Good. So, where does that put us

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budgetwise for the estimate?

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>> I think it's going to fully obligate all

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that was set aside. Um the amount set

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aside was the amount that the select

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board set aside from the ARPA award.

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Then there was part of the insurance um

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claim for the chimney that was blown and

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we got the new boiler down here with

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part of that and the rest was to put

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toward rebuilding that chimney. There

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was a third source uh not getting me

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right now. So we don't have the final

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bill. We've made the initial payment

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which was about a third of the quote a

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progress payment when they switched from

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the east side to the west side of the

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roof. They got another third and so at

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this point this is when he's going to

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start. He has a little bit to do I think

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on the south facing. Um there's a small

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little roof at the base of the triangle

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that I don't know whether they're going

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to do copper or slate there. And then

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once that's all done, we'll get the

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final bill and it it's likely to be a

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third plus the add-ons.

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So, I would just make a suggestion if

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you it is over and with all those funds

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you'd already set aside to take it out

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of the um the not the grand

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>> the the 1% fund.

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>> No, I would leave that alone. I would

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take it off of the reserve if you have

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anything extra because as the reserve

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goes up,

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you want to use it. We used it a couple

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years ago to offset the tax increase,

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forgot about it the next year, that that

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increase needs to be accounted for the

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following year in the budget. So, if you

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use the reserve for some an overrun,

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it doesn't affect your taxes. It doesn't

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affect you the next year. Um, it's just

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a way to use up some of those funds for

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unplanned items while you're still

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staying above your limit.

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>> That's good advice. I think, you know,

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when it's when we get the final bill,

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I'll certainly come back to the select

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board and give them the final accounting

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of what's been laid out and what they've

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already kind of set aside and we'll see

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what's left and what what might the

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options be. just to suggest.

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>> Yes,

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>> a lot of that would depend if if I

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reserve

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is above the 15% bottom threshold. So, I

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mean, we're right at it, but I don't

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know. We haven't got last year's results

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yet.

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>> Yeah, it's 569

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report.

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» Any final questions for the town manager

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on his report?

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» None seen. Moving on to

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Hey, Doug. Uh, community development

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report for today the 14th. Uh, after

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what I assume was a tremendously

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successful chamber auction with our

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Friday. The town hall upstairs is back

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open for entertainment. July 19th, the

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town hall's wildly popular silent movie

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series resumed for Jeff's

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company screening of the 1922 comedy

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Grandma's Boy. Free donations are there

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to support the 2026 series. Um, July

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26th, LC Jazz returns with Big Van

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Sound. A 6 PM start time with a $5

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admission gains you access to swing

503
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dancing fun. Proceeds are to benefit

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music theater scholarship funds.

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July the 27th, we're partnering with the

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Brandy Museum to host Howard Coffin from

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1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. upstairs. This is

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a free wall offering uh renowned

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historian's presentation of the Great

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Bennington Battle in Vermont. It's a

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great way to get geared up for Vermont's

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250th celebration, which is next year.

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Youth dance, cheer, field hockey, and

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outdoor camps have some limited

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registration space and start this week.

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Visit brandonere.com.

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I have an error in my report. The town

518
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has not picked up its grantfunded BWID

519
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buzz on Friday. It was delivered to us

520
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today uh by the dealership. U we have a

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phase, again, a reminder, grant funded.

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This costs us nothing. The phase plan

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will have it as a rec support vehicle

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with some volunteer scheduled ride share

525
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public transit connections coming online

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in the next two months be structured

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with that site. We started with the

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right-of-way easement acquisition for

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the Union Street sidewalk project. The

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next this is the next phase to be

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completed. Um these are all temporary

532
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easements. We're not taking any land to

533
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make these to um to have the sidewalk be

534
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reconstructed, but it does require some

535
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disruption in people's lives.

536
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We started uh let's see, Youth Works is

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back in town. Uh they were this church

538
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youth group that was really ramped up

539
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prior to COVID and then CO put a dent in

540
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their camping uh camping missions, but

541
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now they're back. Um for the next three

542
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weeks, we'll be working with this

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organization to complete many projects

544
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all over town. groups of 10 to 15 youth

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with counselors. We'll be helping to

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beautify public parks and other spaces

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three days a week. You'll see them

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around a couple projects that they're

549
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,480
going to be working on

550
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,440
decking to be painted at the gazebo

551
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,559
park. Mother is clean up downtown.

552
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,679
They'll soon be constants

553
00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:19,360
pay at the end.

554
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,480
Um uh fall planning is underway. Uh next

555
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,600
report will have the follow youth

556
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,840
offerings. The reminder that the great

557
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,159
Brandon Carnival is coming July 24th to

558
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:30,799
27th. This former collaboration is now

559
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:32,880
exclusively a field rental following

560
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
right events. Fun activities on tap with

561
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,120
Miller music rides state trivia

562
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,679
championship over open night and more.

563
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,760
Um I just want to say we had successful

564
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,559
I thought Independence Day celebration

565
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,440
last weekend.

566
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,120
I earned some coverage lease. Um I've

567
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,480
been the chair on that committee for

568
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,039
nine years. of stepping down as chair. I

569
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:57,280
encourage any young pupils that are

570
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,039
around in the audience. I guess

571
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,200
anybody that would like to volunteer to

572
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,720
help make 2026 celebration even better.

573
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,440
Um cool thing about um volunteerism in a

574
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,720
small town is you have the opportunity

575
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,200
to make the changes you want to see by

576
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,880
simply showing up at meetings and

577
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,159
expressing your opinions and then

578
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:22,549
working to make that happen. uh when I

579
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:24,159
» like to add to Bill Moy's report that

580
00:24:24,159 --> 00:24:26,240
last year I was able to see some of the

581
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720
youth works doing some of their jobs and

582
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,320
stopped to talk to them and thank them

583
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,000
for being here. So if you run into a

584
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,760
bunch of kids working in our parks or

585
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,919
around town, it's great to thank them

586
00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:37,039
for what they're doing because they're

587
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:38,640
coming here and they're saving us money.

588
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,600
So it's really a that's certainly a a

589
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,240
really nice thing. Questions for Mr.

590
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Moore from the board?

591
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,669
questions of Mr. Moore from the public.

592
00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:54,240
Mr. Moore is off the hot seat.

593
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,760
>> We'll get back on

594
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,240
>> uh

595
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,960
temporarily.

596
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,919
>> Okay. Item six on our agenda is to award

597
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:07,679
the uh bid for demolition of a femur

598
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:11,279
buyout property. Um

599
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:12,880
Mr. Hopkins, Mr. Moore, I don't know

600
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,000
who's doing that. Me again.

601
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,679
>> There you go. We're back on.

602
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,200
>> So, I'll read the letter. I submitted as

603
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000
a part of the uh select word packet. Uh

604
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,919
the town hosted a bid opening on June

605
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:25,600
27th 125 of demolition services of an F

606
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,080
FRCF FEMA hazard mitigation program

607
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,960
acquired property located at 317 North

608
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,440
Street. Um there were results. We had

609
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,799
quite a few biders. Um the low bid is

610
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:38,960
current low bidder is Richard Reedson.

611
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,039
They have performed this type of work in

612
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,720
the past. most recently for properties

613
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760
located at 17 Burke Park and 301 Newton

614
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Road. Their work was excellent and met

615
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,200
the requirements uh of FEMA FRCF. It's

616
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,480
my recommendation the select board

617
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,919
consider that to be a valid bid and

618
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:56,159
award the demolition board Richard Reed

619
00:25:56,159 --> 00:26:02,630
and son I listed all the bids there

620
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760
of the board

621
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,559
that

622
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:12,320
second motion and a second

623
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,000
the vid Mr. Ree and son I've known them

624
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,559
for many many years and they have done

625
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,799
other jobs very good so I agree but any

626
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:51,269
other discussions I will

627
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:55,600
second. All in favor? So morning to

628
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,400
Richard Reed and son say I I

629
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:06,470
>> I

630
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,919
um item seven considering a revolving

631
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:17,440
loan to Pit Factory Fitness LLC.

632
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
>> Hey, it's me again

633
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080
LLC. So I have a letter that I uh

634
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,159
prepared for the select board. Um on

635
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:25,919
July the 10th, the Brandon revolving

636
00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:28,240
loan fund committee met with Andy Donor

637
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960
consider a loan request for Fit Factory

638
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Fitness LLC. Board was impressed by the

639
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,600
presentation and his plan to establish a

640
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,600
fitness gym facility in the building

641
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,440
that was the former home of Upscale

642
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,919
Resale. fitness craze that has emerged

643
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:43,840
since Brandon's last gym closed around

644
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240
15 years ago demonstrates that Brandon

645
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,000
can support this type of business,

646
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,440
addressing the retail leakage that

647
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520
occurs with the many people that live in

648
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,960
our community that travel to either

649
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Rutland or Mbury to work out. Andy

650
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,679
Donor's proven track record as an owner

651
00:27:57,679 --> 00:27:59,279
principal of multiple successful

652
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,440
businesses along with his wife coupled

653
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,679
with a comprehensive plan made for

654
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:05,200
unanimous endorsement from the board

655
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,720
members present and terms are listed in

656
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,399
the letter. uh loan amount will be

657
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:12,880
$59,989.

658
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Turns be 5.5% interest rate enterprise

659
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,279
is a 120month loan. The balloon payment

660
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,840
at 60 months and collateral will be

661
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,919
security interest and business assets

662
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:27,350
factory versus loan guarantee

663
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:31,430
the board.

664
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,200
Motion we approve that second.

665
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,310
We have a motion and second.

666
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,840
None heard. All in favor of approving

667
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240
the uh loan

668
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,399
>> say

669
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:51,120
>> I

670
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,840
say I

671
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,110
>> I

672
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,039
found

673
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:11,750
I can't wait for it.

674
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,600
and it it really been the reason that

675
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,320
we're able to do the thing in town that

676
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,679
we do. So, um thank you for honoring

677
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:24,000
that again. Um but I think it's an

678
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960
awesome opportunity for uh people that

679
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,279
are trying to get going in town. So,

680
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:32,159
thank you for having that.

681
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:34,559
Can you say roughly when you might be

682
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,950
opening and when memberships will

683
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360
» I was looking at him

684
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,360
>> but in typical fashion my wife always

685
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,960
answers for me too

686
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
>> Andy when when might you open and

687
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,159
memberships would be available. So,

688
00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:51,679
right now we're dealing with the the

689
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:54,399
septic design um which we're going back

690
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:55,919
and forth, but we're hoping to have the

691
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,240
design completed for the end of next

692
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,320
month and then submitted to the state

693
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360
for the permit to complete. So, we're

694
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,320
hoping for like fall um late fall

695
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,279
opening. And when we get everything

696
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,600
ready to go, there's a big sign out

697
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,159
front with the QR code you can scan

698
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:15,760
before we're open, bring you to the

699
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080
website, memberships will be available

700
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,720
and all that stuff. So

701
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,200
>> fantastic.

702
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,399
>> Look for the big banner.

703
00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,240
>> Okay. Thank you very much.

704
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,880
>> Thank you guys.

705
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,399
>> Happy to have another good business in

706
00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:33,750
town.

707
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,080
» Moving on.

708
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Uh set terms for Bravo's door.

709
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
>> Is that is that you?

710
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480
>> So Mr. Chair, there's a short memo in

711
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200
the packet. Uh the Bravo board uh is the

712
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,600
restorative justice program in Brandon

713
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,080
and the Bravo um the Bravo panelists are

714
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,600
different from the Bravo board. So the

715
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,200
panelists are the ones where they

716
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,640
actually get a group together to meet

717
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,960
with uh the victim and the offender and

718
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,559
kind of sort through what the process

719
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:04,960
would be to come to restorative justice.

720
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,039
This is kind of the supervisory board,

721
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,120
the advisory group. uh they're supposed

722
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,799
to recruit some volunteers to sit on

723
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,320
those panels, link them up with the

724
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,559
police chief and the town manager, make

725
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,320
sure that uh we're moving restorative

726
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480
justice along in Brandon, get them some

727
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,919
training, that kind of thing. So, the

728
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,399
names are of the current members are

729
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:25,039
Mitch Pearl, he's currently the chair.

730
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,039
Paula Ashley is currently the

731
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,320
coordinator. Sue Gage uh has expressed

732
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,840
that she will be the incoming

733
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,440
coordinator. She's willing to do that.

734
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Paula is ready to step out of that role.

735
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Debbie Boyce who is a founding member.

736
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:45,110
She started this with Art Dodie and

737
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
can't remember right now Dick Kirby or

738
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,640
somebody and then Erin Kilpek. So, uh

739
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960
they're asking for one-year terms to run

740
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,279
from July 1st to June 30th. this has

741
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,039
kind of been an indefinite informal

742
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,200
thing and they're trying to formalize it

743
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,960
just a little bit, but they don't want

744
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,640
to have um what might be the customary

745
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,880
rotating staggered three-year terms.

746
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,480
They really all prefer to have a

747
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360
one-year appointment.

748
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,830
>> Pleasure of the board.

749
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320
» Um that's what they want. Uh I will move

750
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320
that we adopt the uh term limits uh as

751
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,039
set out in the memo you sent for Bravo.

752
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,200
>> I'll second that.

753
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,519
>> Now will they come forth with the names

754
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,240
of the people on an annual basis to us

755
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320
like when we appoint everybody else or

756
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,399
>> it would it would be added to the list

757
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:39,519
um that Elaine generally calls to see if

758
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,039
someone is still interested in

759
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,799
continuing or not. It would be on that

760
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:43,440
list.

761
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360
>> Okay.

762
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Motion and a second. Any additional

763
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,110
discussion?

764
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,159
None heard. All in favor of adopting the

765
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:56,240
motion to

766
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,480
uh give them one-year terms, please say

767
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,279
I.

768
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:00,880
>> I.

769
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,159
>> Opposed? No one.

770
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:08,159
Very agreeable group this evening.

771
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:13,120
Uh board driven ordinance and repeal of

772
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:19,669
the pool hall regulation. Okay.

773
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:21,440
» Well, we can have a pool. It's got to

774
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,559
meet these requirements.

775
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:27,760
>> So, um I have in my in your packet, I do

776
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,440
have a little letter about uh I just

777
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,880
want to read a little piece of it. Um

778
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,799
which is that the select board's

779
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:34,640
influence in leading the community is

780
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,399
through shaping policy, right, in this

781
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,399
form of government. It's one of the

782
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,159
statutory roles that the select board

783
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,080
has as the elected legislative body of

784
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,000
the town. So, I did bring um at Jeff's

785
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,320
left hand there is the binder. So,

786
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,519
that's basically about six dozen

787
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,320
ordinances that the town knows that the

788
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640
select board has passed at some point

789
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
and has been keeping track of. Many of

790
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,720
them have not been reviewed in a number

791
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,159
of years. Um uh Mr. Dr. Bailey as board

792
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:06,240
chair has talked about the board's role,

793
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,600
you know, kind of it would be good to

794
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,520
keep refreshing these and we should make

795
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,240
sure that whatever ordinances we have in

796
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:15,119
effect actually reflect the wishes of

797
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:16,639
the select board in terms of what

798
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,760
they're trying to regulate. So, um

799
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,839
there's some possibilities to have an

800
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:24,879
outside firm do this for you. A ballpark

801
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:28,000
figure would be like $15,000.

802
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,919
it would be you'd end up with something

803
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:32,000
like called the Brandon Municipal Code

804
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,399
or something to that effect. They made

805
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:36,639
reference uh the group that I was

806
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,000
speaking with about this, they made

807
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,919
reference to Rutland City. They've just

808
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:41,520
done this for Rutland City at some point

809
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,679
in the past. There's an online version

810
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,599
that's kind of interactive so people can

811
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,599
search around if they want it. And then

812
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,399
there's a formal code book that's

813
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,159
produced that can be distributed or

814
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,919
whatever.

815
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:56,399
Um, if you don't want to go that route,

816
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,480
um, there's other options. I thought I

817
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000
could just bring you one or two every

818
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
time and you could look at it, lay it

819
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,800
over a meeting. If you want to consider

820
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,560
altering it or whatever, you could

821
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480
appoint a working group to meet before

822
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,079
the next select board meeting and report

823
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,119
back to the full board. Um, others have

824
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,119
thought maybe a working group could look

825
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,200
at the whole thing holistically rather

826
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,880
than doing it um, one at a time. So,

827
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,560
there's some options before you. And I

828
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,079
did pick out the pool hall ordinance

829
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,000
because that for a long time has been

830
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,480
kind of the the one that seems the most

831
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,920
irrelevant to the way we live today.

832
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,760
So if you wanted to do anything with

833
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
that or with any of the ordinances, um

834
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160
the process is written down at the

835
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,119
bottom half of my page there talks about

836
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,200
um the notices that have to be posted

837
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,079
and what the process is for advertising

838
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:51,680
and entertaining public objection.

839
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Thank you. Um, today Cecil and I met to

840
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,119
go over this whole agenda with Seth and

841
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,520
I voiced my concerns that I personally

842
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,599
would rather have us do this and not

843
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,480
spend $15,000.

844
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,839
um whether we do it peacemeal or one

845
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:15,680
giant thing and and Cecil offered to

846
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,119
kind of lead this along which I totally

847
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,760
satisfied with.

848
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Um but what would the board what's the

849
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
board's feelings? I mean, I I figure

850
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,880
that what we could start doing, and I'm

851
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,440
happy to do it, is start going through

852
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,079
that binder and just looking at, oh,

853
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,599
it's fairly easy to tell by looking at

854
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:43,040
an ordinance whether, okay, there's

855
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,240
something that definitely needs to be

856
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,960
fixed about this or repealed or

857
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,760
whatever. Um, others it may be that we

858
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,400
may want to look at them in more detail

859
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
to see whether we need to make

860
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,320
amendments to them or not. But I'm, you

861
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880
know, I'm more than happy to

862
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520
make a first run through it and tag

863
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,160
stuff that we can deal with in short

864
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,839
order or is order and then go back to

865
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:10,480
the stuff that may need to be dealt with

866
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,320
in more depth. Um, we have no deadline.

867
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040
This isn't like the town plan where we

868
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,960
have to have it done every five years or

869
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,000
every years. It's it's more like, you

870
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,960
know, it's better not to have

871
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,119
like ordinance, which is actually pretty

872
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,920
amusing. Um, you know, to just go

873
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,960
through and see if there's something

874
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,480
that's like really out ofd or archaic or

875
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,040
um and pull those out. And so, and then

876
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,920
my thought was after that, then we could

877
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,160
have a working group to really kind of

878
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,480
drill down into the ones that need to be

879
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440
dealt with in more detail and hopefully

880
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400
come up with something that, you know,

881
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,760
may take longer than the professional

882
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,599
codification would, but um I'm free and

883
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:05,040
that's better than $15,000.

884
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
>> Mr. hand.

885
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,040
>> So, one one of my goals um with this

886
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,880
even coming up is something that I had

887
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,720
as a goal even when I was on the select

888
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,599
board. It was basically to organize them

889
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,520
that I'm not saying that they are

890
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,520
disheveled in any way like they're kept,

891
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,079
they're careful, but there's no theme

892
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,160
like this is public safety, this is

893
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,599
public works. There's there's no

894
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:28,079
compartments or departments of the of

895
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,839
Brandon's book. It's more or less

896
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:32,800
alphabetical order, which is not how you

897
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,400
store chemicals and not how you plow

898
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,079
streets in the winter, right? Um, it

899
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,240
should be organized in some way. So, if

900
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,440
while we're organizing it, we decide

901
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,200
some stuff should be kind of called out

902
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,800
of it, that's probably the right time to

903
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,720
do it.

904
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,320
My feelings are if you know our one of

905
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,800
the the major thing for a brand or for a

906
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,720
Vermont select board is to set policy

907
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,359
and procedure which this is right up the

908
00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:00,640
line. If we fail, we can always go back

909
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,960
to hiring someone in a year from now.

910
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,200
If we are successful, we save $15,000

911
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520
and

912
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,839
always with our eye on the budget, I

913
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:14,400
think it would be move us to uh give it

914
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,640
a serious look and work our way through

915
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
it slowly.

916
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,599
>> Am I correct that many of these are not

917
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,320
digitized? I would say the vast majority

918
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,839
are not digitized

919
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:27,119
>> because that's something else we could

920
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,960
probably take a swing at or we can get

921
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,480
some volunteers to take a swing at that

922
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
would at least get a rudimentary

923
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,240
>> list of them online or something.

924
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:37,589
>> Okay.

925
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,000
Yep. I saw you walking. I assumed you

926
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,349
were going to raise your hand.

927
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,920
Vicki Disorda,

928
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,920
I think I just heard you say that it's

929
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,280
the select board's responsibility to set

930
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,720
policies.

931
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:55,599
>> Yes.

932
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:59,200
>> And uh my question tonight that I came

933
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,800
here for is uh I guess now is a good

934
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,880
time as any to ask about the select

935
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
board's responsibility as far as

936
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,880
following policy

937
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,000
>> for which policy

938
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,109
>> for following policies.

939
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,280
I would think that we

940
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560
>> Is there a particular policy in mind?

941
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960
>> Yes, there is. Uh I think it was the

942
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,119
June 23rd

943
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,760
select board meeting.

944
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,880
There were eight seats

945
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,599
presented to the board all three-year

946
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:37,359
terms for vacancies on different

947
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:39,520
volunteer boards.

948
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,040
And our town policy states that when a

949
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,440
vacancy occurs in an office, board or

950
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,160
commission, which the select board is

951
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
the appointing authority, one, the board

952
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,480
will announce the vacancy at the first

953
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,960
regular select board meeting following

954
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,839
notification of the vacancy

955
00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:02,240
and um require letters of interest from

956
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,640
those wishing to serve. And that the

957
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,520
town will post the vacancies in the town

958
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,520
clerk's office. two bulletin boards,

959
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
front porch forum and the newspaper, and

960
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,400
that the board will make appointments no

961
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,480
earlier than the second regular board

962
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,480
meeting after the announcements of the

963
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,560
vacancy, none of which occurred prior to

964
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,599
those appointments. And as I watched

965
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,560
what was happening, all I could think of

966
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,640
is a nominating committee on a church in

967
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,560
a church.

968
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,079
And that's the way I feel those

969
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,400
vacancies were handled.

970
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,000
um uh equal opportunity begins with

971
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,359
opportunity and so it is going to be 3

972
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:48,319
years before anyone else in town has an

973
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:52,800
opportunity to serve in those positions.

974
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,800
So, I'm wondering if you can explain to me

975
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,079
how this entire panel is not was not in

976
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:05,359
violation of the town policy. And please

977
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:08,079
explain to me how this failure to follow

978
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,400
a documented policy is any different

979
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640
than the trouble we just had with the

980
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,839
former elected board of public trustees.

981
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:18,800
>> Okay.

982
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,960
>> And this is not a new problem. I just

983
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,079
want to say because in May of 2023,

984
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,720
I expressed an interest on being on a

985
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,000
committee in town and um to the town

986
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,720
manager. I again expressed an interest

987
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,000
on July 26. I emailed the entire select

988
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,319
board and no one responded to me until

989
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:46,720
April of 2024. That's 11 months later

990
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,000
when it was to let me know that someone

991
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,400
else was being appointed to a position

992
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,839
that was never posted. And then um just

993
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:01,280
last week on a one commission I finally

994
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
got on to because no one else applied

995
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,359
for it for months. Um a gentleman showed

996
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:09,680
up and said that the town manager had

997
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,240
asked him to be on the board. So again,

998
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,839
explain to me how this municipal body is

999
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:20,400
functioning any different than uh 501c3

1000
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,599
religious organization. Thank you.

1001
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,920
>> Um I'm happy to take a stab at answering

1002
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,560
that. Um I I think that um I can

1003
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
understand your concern

1004
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520
but

1005
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,079
uh from the point of view of the board

1006
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,800
and this has been in the past there were

1007
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,280
not vacancies on any of those boards.

1008
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,359
All those boards had filled seats and

1009
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:51,599
the procedure has always been that they

1010
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:53,599
first look to see if the people in those

1011
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:58,079
seats want to continue on. And so the

1012
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,800
policy regarding vacancies is if within

1013
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,680
a term a seat becomes vacant because

1014
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
someone decides not to do it anymore or

1015
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,200
has a conflict or moves or any number of

1016
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,640
reasons that seats have become open. And

1017
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,160
for example, when I was on the planning

1018
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,680
commission, we had openings. One, two,

1019
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,480
there were three different seats that

1020
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480
became vacant in the two years that I

1021
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,440
was on the planning committee commission

1022
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,480
that were filled. Um, I think the same

1023
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,800
has happened with a lot of others. And

1024
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,319
so I understand your concern. I think I

1025
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:38,000
respectfully disagree with your

1026
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,319
interpretation of the select board's

1027
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:43,359
actions. Can you explain to me what the

1028
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:45,599
purpose of term limits is then if

1029
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,079
whoever's serving on a board can stay on

1030
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:51,280
it indefinitely as long as they want to

1031
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,599
once they're in the position. We have a

1032
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,040
town of 4,000 people

1033
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,319
and the same individuals serve on

1034
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:03,040
multiple boards.

1035
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,160
How does that give any other residents,

1036
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,440
registered voters, taxpaying citizens an

1037
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,680
opportunity to do their civic duty?

1038
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,200
So, we don't have term limit. We have

1039
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,640
terms that can be reuped. And so,

1040
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,760
someone gets appointed for a set term,

1041
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,400
they can choose to re-up or they can

1042
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,560
resign at the end of that term. but it's

1043
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,280
not term limited in the sense of that

1044
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,280
legal term of art. Um, I would also say

1045
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,560
that we've had openings on some boards

1046
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960
that we've been begging people to apply

1047
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,079
for. So, it's not so much that there is

1048
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,240
a ground I I would love it if we had a

1049
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,160
ground swell of volunteers wanting to be

1050
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,720
on these boards,

1051
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,800
but to be honest, that hasn't really

1052
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,839
happened. Well, what you're telling me

1053
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:00,640
may be technically and legally correct,

1054
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,839
but I feel like it's a spiritual

1055
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:07,280
violation of the purpose of having

1056
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:16,550
terms.

1057
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,200
» Yes. I do want to clarify that um just

1058
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,119
because somebody has been on a

1059
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,079
commission or a board, filled a term,

1060
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:25,920
and been asked if they want to be

1061
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,359
considered to continue, that doesn't

1062
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:28,880
mean that they get to stay on that

1063
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,960
committee as long as they want, as was

1064
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680
just said, right? The select board still

1065
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560
chooses whether to appoint, reappoint,

1066
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,520
or not every member of the commission

1067
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,400
when the terms come due.

1068
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,079
So, it's not like you get appointed once

1069
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,920
and you're you're in for good behavior.

1070
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,920
like you get appointed once and then if

1071
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,760
the select board determines that that

1072
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,760
board needs to be rebalanced or there

1073
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,440
needs to be other voices represented

1074
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,920
they they can thank you for serving and

1075
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,800
they can choose someone else.

1076
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,880
>> I could let me I want to add to that and

1077
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,400
then I'll let you talk again. I I know

1078
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,839
last year when we did the budget

1079
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,839
committee, we had everyone reapply and

1080
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:09,359
we did actually make changes and we did

1081
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:11,280
have

1082
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,960
people who had been on the budget

1083
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,119
committee who

1084
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,000
had agreed that they would stay on. We

1085
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,200
wanted to add a different voices and we

1086
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,839
added new and different people last year

1087
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:30,240
and and did not renew everyone. So, it's I guess each time it might be a

1088
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:30,960
little different, but

1089
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,160
>> Mr. chair, the reason you were able to

1090
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,119
create a more diverse board is because

1091
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,920
that was posted and you had a bigger

1092
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,000
group. But if positions are never

1093
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,880
posted, how can you ever see if there's

1094
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,760
an opportunity for more diversity,

1095
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,829
equity, or inclusivity?

1096
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:56,560
» Okay, good point, Jan Kulage.

1097
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,480
>> To me, it's like you change your mind

1098
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,200
depending on the board.

1099
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
One year it's this way, one year it's

1100
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
this way. Where's your consistency?

1101
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Where some boards, like you said, you

1102
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,880
see if they want to continue and you

1103
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,040
leave them on. Like for the budget

1104
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,839
committee for years, every once we were

1105
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:19,280
elected, once you guys elected us, you

1106
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,800
know, we had to submit our letter and

1107
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,760
that we were on that every year we got

1108
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,559
asked, do you want to continue? Yes. If

1109
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,960
not, then they may post for one person

1110
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,040
because they left. They posted for a

1111
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,359
position. Then two years ago, just out

1112
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:36,319
of the blue, you told us, "Oh, you have

1113
00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:38,319
to apply."

1114
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:40,400
So, where's your consistency? So, now

1115
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,880
we're hearing it on different boards.

1116
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Then I look back to how you did the

1117
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,599
budget committee. So, where was your

1118
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:49,440
consistency? all of a sudden you decided

1119
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,079
you're going to follow the rules that policy says where it you didn't

1120
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,440
follow it before that then. So I'm just

1121
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,599
wondering what changed that we were

1122
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:04,559
asked did we want to continue and then

1123
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,520
the last two years we had to apply. So

1124
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,920
I'm just wondering

1125
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,200
what changed on that committee not just

1126
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,040
on that committee you know other

1127
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,119
committees you have different reasons

1128
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,559
but it's like consistency so everyone

1129
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,200
has the same expectation

1130
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,200
you know townwide

1131
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,800
>> Vicki one more time

1132
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,040
>> I I would just like to make a

1133
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,599
observation and answer to Miss Kulage's

1134
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,720
question um that change occurred

1135
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,160
following the very contentious

1136
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,119
budget season where the previous board

1137
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:42,880
stood up and said that the select board

1138
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,040
did not listen to them and then the

1139
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,000
positions were put on posted for people

1140
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,920
to apply.

1141
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,599
>> As part of the budget committee, I would

1142
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,200
say that um like Jan, I was on the

1143
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,319
budget committee prior and then when the

1144
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:00,160
email came out and said we all had to

1145
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,960
reapply, maybe like Jan, I was almost a

1146
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,079
little offended saying, "I've been doing

1147
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,359
this for a number of years. now I have

1148
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:07,440
to apply for it. And I was on vacation

1149
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,040
in Maine and I almost didn't want to

1150
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,040
apply for it, but my wife talked me down

1151
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,040
off the ceiling and said, "Don't be an

1152
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,119
idiot. Apply." And last year

1153
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,040
as the board chair, I wanted to open it

1154
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,559
up for a whole, you know, relook. And

1155
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:23,839
I'm sure that's what we're going to do

1156
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:26,079
again this year is have every, you know,

1157
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,680
let everyone know that's on the

1158
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
committee that uh,

1159
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,359
>> you know, we want to know their interest

1160
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:34,319
and we're going to look at it. On some

1161
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,400
boards certainly there's a learning

1162
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,240
curve and um, sort of we'll say start

1163
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,960
with a whole new board in some fields

1164
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,480
would be probably a very difficult

1165
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,480
thing. But I'd say that should be maybe

1166
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,720
one of the first policies that we look

1167
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,359
at is how we do that and and follow it.

1168
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:52,960
So I think that would be a plus as far

1169
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,160
as looking at what our policies.

1170
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,190
>> Okay.

1171
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,559
» Well, we will try to attack that.

1172
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:11,349
>> Okay.

1173
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:11,760
» Pardon?

1174
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,880
>> I think we're still in the pool.

1175
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,240
>> We're still in the pool. All

1176
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,990
>> I would just

1177
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,079
as uh Mr. Hopkins noted there are three

1178
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,680
committee

1179
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,680
uh seats that are open for people who

1180
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,359
are interested. There's the voting

1181
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:31,520
position on the energy committee and

1182
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,240
then there's the alternate position on

1183
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,800
the DRB and the planning commission. I

1184
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,680
know from experience that uh at least on

1185
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,599
the planning commission, people that

1186
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:45,119
were originally appointed as alternates

1187
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,640
uh ended up getting voting seats. um

1188
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,800
when vacancies occurred, they put in

1189
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,319
their names for the voting seats that

1190
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:54,079
got them. So, you know, it's a way to

1191
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,520
get your foot in the door. Even if you

1192
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,680
don't have a voting seat for every

1193
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,680
single meeting, you do have the

1194
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,400
opportunity to participate and to vote

1195
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,440
if they don't otherwise have a quorum.

1196
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,870
There's that.

1197
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,960
So, do we want to do anything on the

1198
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,960
pool hall regulation or do we want to

1199
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,760
have that that was just an example or do

1200
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,079
we want to act on it tonight and we we

1201
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:22,160
want to review it?

1202
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,400
>> Pleasure to the board. Well, given that

1203
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,960
we have no bowling alleys or footballs

1204
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,480
in town at the moment,

1205
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,720
um, and given that

1206
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,240
um,

1207
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,839
the

1208
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:39,200
reasonable requirements for the

1209
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,800
protection of the public morals are not

1210
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,760
um, in keeping with today's standards. I

1211
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,880
would move to repeal this particular

1212
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520
policy since it's in front of us.

1213
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,680
>> I'll second that.

1214
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,240
Okay, we have a motion and a second to

1215
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,680
uh get rid of our pool hall and bowling

1216
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400
alley policy.

1217
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Any other dis discussion from the board?

1218
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,520
Motion in a second. All in favor of

1219
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,079
doing away with this policy say I.

1220
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,440
>> I.

1221
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,079
>> Opposed? No one.

1222
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,119
Bools and bowling alleys.

1223
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,359
And and any of you who manages to leave

1224
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,119
this room without the music man stuff

1225
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,160
like that?

1226
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,520
>> I played the music man in middle school.

1227
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,920
>> Okay.

1228
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,319
>> I played for

1229
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:35,839
>> uh right in line with the discussion the

1230
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:43,349
uh FY27 budget process. Uh

1231
00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:45,440
» all right, Mr. Chair. I was hoping I I

1232
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,200
>> I just noticed a question up here that

1233
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,040
answer something I was

1234
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,559
>> Okay.

1235
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:51,520
20 minutes ago.

1236
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,000
>> Zoe

1237
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,079
saying, "No, late, but I know I'm late

1238
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,920
on this, but why? Can someone comment on why they're

1239
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:04,000
demolishing a property?" Just curious

1240
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:27,430
mitigation.

1241
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,750
Hello. Hello.

1242
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,880
» We bought it because it's in the

1243
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,960
floodway.

1244
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Reach out to me if you have any other

1245
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,390
questions.

1246
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,800
was a long uh mosquito district

1247
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,599
>> and the batteries have been completely

1248
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:52,790
recharged.

1249
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,640
» Did you get that question answered?

1250
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,920
>> LOL. Okay.

1251
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,480
>> Okay. Um so next on the agenda is the uh

1252
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,640
budget process. Um, I would like to

1253
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,200
say that we're going to send an email to

1254
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,160
the people who are on last year's budget

1255
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,839
um committee, ask them for their

1256
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:20,319
interest in retaining and to apply again

1257
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:23,200
and anyone in the public have Mr.

1258
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,839
Hopkins put an ad out or anyone else who

1259
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,240
would like to join the budget committee

1260
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,520
and then we will interview

1261
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,160
um those people early in August.

1262
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,119
>> I'm assuming only people that haven't

1263
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,960
served before because we we know the

1264
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,280
people

1265
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,319
>> we know the people who have served. So

1266
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:46,400
uh we will

1267
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
uh test the waters there and come up

1268
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:52,480
with it. It's our intent to start uh the

1269
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,119
budget process once again very early

1270
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:59,839
which would be um in the tail end of

1271
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:01,680
August and we would have budget meetings

1272
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,400
on opposite Monday nights of select

1273
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,440
board meetings. So select board is the

1274
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,400
second and fourth and the budget will be

1275
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,000
first third Mondays. I hope that our

1276
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,799
procedure may be a little easier now

1277
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:18,559
that we've been through it once this

1278
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:25,680
way. But um um clearly the time and the

1279
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,079
effort we put in last year was important

1280
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:32,559
and we want to do that again. Um

1281
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,640
and I think we'll be prepared for it. So

1282
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,799
is there more on that subject than my

1283
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:39,119
announcing that?

1284
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:41,440
So, watch for the announcement. And for

1285
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,200
those who were on the committee, you

1286
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,559
will be receiving a email from Elaine

1287
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:48,400
asking if you're still interested in

1288
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,599
being on. And for others, we will um be

1289
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:57,670
taking applications.

1290
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,880
No comments on that. Good. We are now up

1291
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,400
to item 11, public comment and

1292
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,720
participation. First, any comments from

1293
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,119
any board members?

1294
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:12,480
None. Any other? Yes, I see two hands.

1295
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,480
Uh, we're going to go with Brent first.

1296
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,559
Bear, you spoke once already.

1297
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,680
>> Yes, Brent Buler. Um, I do like the idea

1298
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,079
of you all combining the commission with

1299
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:27,119
the select board meetings because I came

1300
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:28,799
illprepared tonight for the sewer

1301
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:33,280
commission meeting and the uh submitt by

1302
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,119
the town manager Seth Hopkins for

1303
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,400
Rootex. I think that's a perfect thing

1304
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,440
once the board of trustees for the

1305
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,920
Shirley Far fund get up and running.

1306
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,880
That's a perfect expense to submit to

1307
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,760
them for payment. $12,600.

1308
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,559
So, thank you. That's it.

1309
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:58,480
>> Thank you, Mr. Beer. Now, Barry,

1310
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,599
>> just aformational question. I came down

1311
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,599
for the Fourth of July fireworks um and

1312
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:07,760
sat on the the town hall steps with a

1313
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,240
gang of people. Thoroughly enjoyed it as

1314
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,200
did everyone around me. But the the big

1315
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,880
question that came up from any everyone

1316
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,240
I had no answers for where exactly do

1317
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,549
they shoot up from

1318
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:26,240
» this secret location uh everyone was

1319
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,280
trying to guess

1320
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,280
uh at the end of Mill Lane uh just below

1321
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,319
Hannerford and above the river a high

1322
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:39,599
spot. It's an amazing spot and we have a

1323
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,040
couple land owners that are really cool

1324
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,400
about letting us set it off right there

1325
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,599
because it's safe. Um, and it's awesome.

1326
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,829
Yeah, it was awesome.

1327
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:52,079
» Any other questions or comments

1328
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:59,030
participation from the audience?

1329
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,359
None heard.

1330
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:05,280
Uh we will then take a 10-minute recess

1331
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,440
before the board goes into executive

1332
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,200
session.

1333
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:24,549
Thank you very much for coming everyone.

1334
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,400
» You guys all ready?

1335
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,030
>> Yep.

1336
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,040
Um, I move that we enter executive

1337
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,040
session per 1BSA section 313A2

1338
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,559
regarding negotiating or securing real

1339
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,640
estate purchase or lease options uh to

1340
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,559
include the town management team.

1341
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,319
>> Second.

1342
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:46,000
>> All in favor say I.

1343
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,839
>> I. I.

1344
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:52,150
>> Mike.

1345
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,079
» I move to exit executive session. Second

1346
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:57,760
motion

1347
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,400
out of executive session. All in favor?

1348
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:07,430
I close. No one.

1349
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,480
» Oh, I was just going to move to come

1350
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,160
out.

1351
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,559
Um,

1352
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:19,990
I move that we

1353
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,920
refund to Julie Delelfi the $750 that

1354
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,000
she paid to purchase swamp land from the

1355
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,040
town that appears not to have been the

1356
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,799
town's to sell.

1357
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:35,599
>> I'll second that.

1358
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:38,720
>> We have a motion in a second.

1359
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,079
refund the 750. All in favor say I.

1360
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,160
>> I

1361
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,280
unanimous.

1362
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,760
>> Maybe also a motion to accept her quick

1363
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240
deed.

1364
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,160
>> Okay.

1365
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,150
>> And

1366
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,520
» so did she prepare this or our attorney?

1367
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,040
>> Um

1368
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,200
it hasn't been executed yet. So do we

1369
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,829
accept it until it's executed?

1370
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:10,319
I don't

1371
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:12,640
>> to authorize me to accept it.

1372
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,160
>> Yeah.

1373
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:19,280
>> Um I move to authorize uh Seth Hopkins,

1374
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,880
town manager, to accept a fully executed

1375
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,960
quit claim deed from Barry and Julie

1376
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,400
Delia in exchange for the payment of

1377
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,400
$750

1378
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,559
once that deed is fully executed.

1379
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:37,280
>> Second. We have a motion, a second to

1380
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,760
have Seth Hopkins

1381
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,799
finish this after receiving the executed

1382
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:47,750
deed. All in favor?

1383
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,950
» No one

1384
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,720
need a

1385
01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:02,309
item 13, executive session.

1386
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:04,400
I move that we enter executive session

1387
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,559
pursuant to 1BSA section 313 sub A sub3

1388
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,319
regarding the appointment or employment

1389
01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:14,079
of a public officer or employee. Uh and

1390
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:15,920
this is in regard to police department

1391
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,079
applicant status to include the town

1392
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:19,280
management team.

1393
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,520
>> I will second.

1394
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,359
>> All in favor of entering executive

1395
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:28,069
session say I. I. I.

1396
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,470
» No one but we're good.

1397
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:38,069
I move to exit executive session.

1398
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:39,680
» Second motion in a second to come out of

1399
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,599
executive session. All in favor say I.

1400
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:45,589
>> I.

1401
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:49,520
» Um we are out of executive session at

1402
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,760
8:31. No action taken. Moving on to the

1403
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,240
last

1404
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,520
>> motion to adjurnn.

1405
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,880
>> Second. All

1406
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,960
>> in favor of adjourning say I. I.

1407
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,150
>> I.

1408
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,240
So

1409
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,280
same thing here we had

1410
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,599
when we were at the board meeting way.