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When you say you're looking for what's you across the worker, as part of your common routine, like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Do I want to scare a lot of time down, um, essentially, if you can, and you are looking for more information, or you can just open it for the wake up.

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There is a lot of anxiety about that with one of these that you are under.

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There is a lot of anxiety about that.

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And then I like all of it.

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But I like to thank you so much.

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I have a lot of questions.

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I have a lot of questions.

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I have a lot of questions.

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So I can, so we just see if I do not subtract it.

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I can't do anything.

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I think I'm gonna do anything.

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So I can, so we just see if I do not subtract it.

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So I can do anything.

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right, we're returning from close session to the attorney anything to report out.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor, on the first item, Council took action to approve the terms of a development

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agreement, release of a scale development agreement, and acceptance of dedication of

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Parkland, the motion was made by Mr. Grass, seconded by Council Member Manita, and

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the vote was five to zero.

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Other items, it was just the information was provided.

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No action was taken.

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All right.

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I could have you please stand for the invocation of the Pledge of Allegiance of Constantine

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I would like to lead the invocation of the Mayor of Portem,

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much of the pledge of allegiance.

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Yes, please, please, Mayor Hitz.

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Heavenly Father, we do thank you as we come before you again

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to be about your business and we just want to be careful

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to give thanks and honor to you, Lord God,

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for providing such a wonderful place to live.

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And we pray God for the wisdom and the guidance to exercise

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good judgment and decisions in taking care of the gift

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that you provided to city.

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We pray for our city staff.

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to pray for our first responders that you watch over them and their families and keep them safe.

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And what if this thing is up in your name, amen.

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Please face the flag. Ready?

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Begin.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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I have a flag.

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All right.

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Public appearance and comments not to exceed four minutes.

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This is a time for the public to address the council on any item.

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I'm not appearing on the agenda.

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That is within the subject matter jurisdiction of a city council.

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I will recognize you and you come to the microphone.

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Please state your name for the record.

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You are not allowed to make personal attacks on individuals or make comments which are slanderous

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or which may invade an individual's personal privacy.

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Please direct your questions and comments to the city council.

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Do you have any public comments on any items not on the agenda tonight?

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All right.

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That being said, we want to consent agenda, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented?

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So moved.

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Motion by Councilor McKalley,

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House second, second by Mayor, councilman Mo Nita,

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all those in favor say aye.

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Any opposition, abstentions, motion passes?

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All right, we're on regular basis.

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Potential action to approve the Catholic community of Brawley

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to facilitate a procession and approve the road closure

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for an event presented by a Twitter-tating and Trump-Person-Rect manager.

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Good evening, Mayor.

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Council members, members of the public.

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Item 5A is proposed action to review road closure for the Catholic community

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of Broly to facilitate a procession.

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This procession is normally held around December and around April.

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Since this procession, our parks and wrecks and PD staff has performed in the past.

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we are recommending that Council review and approve the procession to approve the road closure and

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fee waivers. The Catholic community of Broly, the State Market Mary and Sacred Heart seeks

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permission to have a procession on December 12th. It will start at 5.30 and conclude at 7 p.m.

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And the procession will start at Sacred Heart at 402 South Imperial and proceed south to

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K Street and from K East to Caesar's Chavez.

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Approximately six streets will be affected during this hour and a half.

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Parks and Recs will provide the road closures to using barricades and PV will provide two

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mark units, one leading to the procession and one at the end of the procession for safety

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reasons.

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Again, we are requesting that Council review and approve this.

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We also have a thickness Martinez and Mrs. Moia here to from the church to answer any questions

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if Council has any.

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I have a quick comment just because my staff port basically says it's going to include it five

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It's an hour and a half long.

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Do you have any comment?

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Anything you'd like to share with us about the event?

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Good evening.

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My name is Esther Martinez.

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I'm the Secretary of the Wadalupe Anos Association.

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This is something that our Catholic community has been doing for over 50 years.

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And we hope in which that you do approve it.

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It's an event that actually lasts a couple of weeks.

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We start with the Novina.

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We have the mass on the 11th, midnight mass with mariachi, the procession on the 12th

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and then we conclude with the Fiesta on Sunday from 1-2-6, we have all kinds of food,

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pupusas, posone, tacos, enchiladas, all imaginable, all the Christmas food, so we really

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I hope that you take us into consideration and approve for us to come together again, our community, our Catholic community to come together.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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The comments are a question from the council.

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I just have a quick comment.

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I know it's going to be dark, so I don't know.

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Maybe carry a flashlight.

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She's going to be dark out there, right?

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530.

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We'll also have a Peter unit leading the way.

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Yeah, I have some lights there as well.

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All right.

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With that, I'll make a motion to approve.

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Motion.

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Second.

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Motion right, a pair of pro-temka-von,

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seconded by the Councilman Grass,

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all those favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposition, an abstention?

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Motion passes.

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Would that be nice?

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All right.

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Over now,

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a potential action to approve contract

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for construction management services presented

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by city attorney.

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I'll actually be presenting.

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This item on October's from history on October 7th, the city council approved a change

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order to the original California pools contract for the pool repair project.

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This is at the Lyon Center.

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Do the project scope and complexity staff recommends hiring a consultant for construction management

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services.

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There is intended construction to happen Monday through Friday, 7am to 430 p.m. construction

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manager is intended to be on site during all that time as well.

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Propulsals were requested from three qualified firms, the whole group, submitted the lowest

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price proposal, which is not to exceed $178,500, given their proven experience with projects

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of this type for the city, staff recommends awarding the contract to the whole group.

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That's the request before you.

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There are comments or questions from Council.

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And tomorrow, I guess there's going to be some movement tomorrow, correct?

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Can you share a little about that?

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Yes, so with the execution, with the execution of this anticipated change order,

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with execution of the change order that just happened,

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and then also the approval of the anticipated agreement,

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The construction team will be mobilizing first thing tomorrow morning when they intend to begin

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demolition of the pool. So we will start seeing ground moving and activity over there tomorrow morning.

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Motion to approve. So move.

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Add a motion to approve by Councilman Cali to have a second.

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Seconded by Councilman Monita all those are favor say aye.

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Aye. Any other position?

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Abstention. Option passes unanimously. All right, then interaction to reclassify previously budgeted planning position from a associate planner to senior planner amend the management confidential and unrepresented list presented by Christian Berraha's development services director.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Council members and members of the public.

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The item before use concerning the reclassification of a previously budgeted position for fiscal year 2526 within the planning department's budget.

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This is a follow-up from our previous discussion during close session during our last meeting earlier this month.

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As you're aware that the Development Services Department's contract with the whole group for entering city planning services ended back in August of this year.

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anticipating that the newly hired positions will be able to absorb the workload to transition

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those responsibilities in-house. When the fiscal year 2526 budget was prepared earlier this year,

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an associate planner position was originally intended to support development services department tasks.

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It is worth mentioning that at the time that position was budgeted back in June of this year

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with the understanding that he will require further adjustments upon a better understanding

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of what staffing needs the department will have when it fully transition those interim

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city planning responsibilities back in house.

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A couple of things have changed since then, with the transition of those responsibilities

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and in line with the development services department staffing plan, we are recommending replacing

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the budgeted associate planner position with a senior planner position, thereby providing the planning

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division with additional leadership responsibilities. One of the key needs right now is for the

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forthcoming planner to assume more of the much-needed project management and supervision tasks,

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thereby relieving the director and other division heads such as the building official,

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from continuously stepping in to provide guidance to other departments staff.

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A more experienced planner will also support coordination with customers, project applicants,

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and other permitting agencies in a more direct and independent manner.

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This way, this senior level position could be more easily positioned to eventually lead the

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planning division, which is something entry to a journey level position, such as an assistant

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or associate planner could not do at this point in time.

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The current salary budget for the associate planner position corresponds to range 34

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on the city's management, confidential, and unrepresentate salary schedule, and whereas the

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senior planner position we are now recommending will correspond to range 36.

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One thing to note is that the current management confidential and unrepresented salary schedule does not currently list the senior planner position, so that will have to be amended as well.

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We've also included in the staff report comparison of the equivalent senior planner level positions in nearby jurisdictions such as the city of Imperial, the county, the city of India, showing more or less comparable salaries.

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Inplementing this reclassification will not have a fiscal impact for the city in this fiscal year as the savings accumulated due to the vacancy are sufficient to cover the cost difference, which would have been between 9,000 and 16,000.

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This request has been coordinated with the city manager and with the human resources and finance departments.

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Because of the reasons outlined here, we respectfully ask that the City Council would consider

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this reclassification request to allow the placement of a senior planner position within

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the planning division instead of an associate planner, with recruitment to begin shortly.

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This competitive position will play an important role in enhancing customer service and

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project delivery efforts across our department.

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This request also includes amending the city's management, confidential and unrepresented salaries scheduled to roof.

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Flect, then you really created position. I remain available for any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Any questions or comments from Council?

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None here.

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Mr. Bellas, what's the average currently you have?

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The average amount of time it takes to issue a building permit at this point.

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A building permit because it entails meeting with other cross coordination of departments.

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it approximately takes if we're like fast tracking a project approximately two weeks and

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there's a more standard approach will be three or four weeks.

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Thank you.

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What's the experience been like with getting trying to just planners and engineers today's

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environment?

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Recruitment-wise?

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I think recruitment-wise we have been very successful in recruiting the

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like, for example, engineering technician positions, assistant civil engineer positions,

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our planning technician was also competitive with did receive many requests. I believe

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that it has been a combination of techniques that that involve perhaps extending their recruitment

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timelines because the original ones that were considered did not capture enough candidates,

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So we had to implement certain, I remember that at one point we were also recruiting for a senior

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civil engineer but in that case we did not receive qualified candidates and we had to sort

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of scale back on that effort and it has been a combination of implementing different strategies like

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extending recruitment deadlines or scaling back on the scope of the responsibilities.

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So for proof tonight, when would this go out?

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Within the next 48 hours, we already have everything ready for posting and so forth, so we've

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been working with HR just in preparation.

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All right.

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Yeah, the comments are, do a motion, make a motion, we approve.

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We have a motion by council, we have to approve, that was second, second by councilman

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the grass, all of those are favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposition?

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Stentions?

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Motion passes.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Now, a citywide user and regulatory fee study presentation of findings and direction to schedule

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public hearing for proposed via adjustments by the finance director.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Good evening, Mayor.

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Members of the Council, public and city staff.

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Sylvia Luna, finance director.

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Well, this evening, we are presenting the comprehensive citywide user and regulatory

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fee report prepared by Clear Source Financial Consulting, the city engage Clear Source to conduct

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a through review of a user and regulatory fee structure, which had not undergone a full update

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in more than 15 to 20 years.

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Over that time, various departments have updated their schedules as needed, resulting in

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consistencies and a lack of alignment across our fee structure.

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So to address this and to improve transparency, the city retain clear source

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to complete a citywide fee study that would help the council clearly

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understand which fees may need to be updated, consolidate it, or newly established,

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based on the actual cost of providing services to days. So in addition,

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just to provide a little bit of more background. Back in 2022, the city held the community workshop

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focused on potential revenue enhancements, opportunities, and doing that workshop, residents

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and community members identified fees for service as the second most important area for

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evaluation to support the city's long-term financial sustainability. So that report before you this evening,

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includes clear source findings, recommendations, and updated analyses of the city's current

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cost for providing fee-related services.

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The Agenda's information is intended to guide the council as to consider potential updates

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for the city's schedule and as a reminder, any new or revised user and regulatory fees

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would ultimately be established by the city council following up with the hearing.

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So tonight it's more about the findings, the report, what fees are being included and if the

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Council decides to move forward and agrees with the proposed schedules, approve direct

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staff to conduct public hearing for December 2 meeting.

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Again, at the time, going to invite Terry Madsen from Clear Source Financial Consulting to

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walk us through the presentation.

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Thank you Mayor and members of the City Council for allowing me to speak with you this evening.

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As mentioned, my name is Terry Mads and I'm here from Clear Source in our firm.

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Helps communities throughout the state with similar studies identifying the cost we're fighting certain services.

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And then thinking through ideas revolving around that idea of cost recovery.

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So, the city's in the final stages of what we commonly referred to as a user and regulatory

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fee study.

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I have about a 35 slide presentation.

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I will do my best to avoid being long-winded.

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I'll make my way quickly through it and then the council can direct us in terms of questions

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or feedback you have.

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But just by way of structure of this presentation, the first half of the presentation takes

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about background and fundamentals and terminology.

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And this is stuff that is common to city throughout California.

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So it applies to Calapetri, it applies to Imperial, it applies in Le Quinta

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and San Diego, everywhere in California.

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The second half of the presentation is specific to Broly,

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and then we'll talk about next steps for Council consideration.

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So just by way of background, fundamentally with the way we think about

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the topic of cost recovery and user and regulatory fees,

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is if we think of ourselves as a city and we say we have sort of broad community

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wide needs and limited resource, a lot of times cities make a strategic decision to

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say, my primary usable resource is tax revenues and I want to use that limited resource

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generally to fund services that provide broad community wide benefit.

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we would most commonly think about this is like public work services, public safety services,

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park maintenance type services. So everyone in Brawley has been a fitting from this.

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When we see a specific receiver of service, I need some, I need a permit for a specific

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activity or action. We frequently look to a direct form of recovery. So specific receiver of service,

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specific cost recovery so that we can use our limited tax dollars towards areas of broad community benefit.

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What we're thinking of tonight is service-based user and regulatory fees, so some human and

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broadly is performing a service. Either your own internal staff or contractors that you use,

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but we're thinking about like permit processing, plan reviews, inspections that you're required to

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form to comply with building code or your own municipal code and so forth, so most commonly

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we think of like building fees, planning fees, engineering fees, so forth. I think what's

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equally important is to talk about what is not being examined as part of this study and

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it is not proposed to be considered by the council as part of this action. We are not examining

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In any taxes, we're not examining assessments, we're not examining utility rates, we're not

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examining development impact fees.

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So we're not examining the things that, as Brawley residents and businesses, we might

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sort of encounter on a day-to-day basis.

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Those are not considered as part of this study.

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What we're examining is discreet, periodic request that may affect some of us from time

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to time, but not on sort of a daily basis,

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and in terms of the development fees,

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we're looking at the smaller service base fees

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rather than the large infrastructure mitigation fees.

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So why do cities like Brawley and other cities

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perform these types of studies from time to time?

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The number one reason is to comply with legal requirements

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because these are fees and not taxes.

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We want to make sure that we don't exceed

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our cost of service.

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we can't be in the profit-making business.

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The idea here is cost recovery, but not beyond cost recovery.

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So we want to ensure that the fees

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completely go requirements and mention this idea

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that when you do recover all or portions of the cost

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or providing these services, you are by definition

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freeing up your general fund to be used to provide

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some other services.

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And then I think this fourth bullet point really matters to communities when I recover my

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costs of service through fees.

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I position myself to be better able to meet the service level expectations of my community.

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So if my community says, I want to be able to call in and get permit inspection schedule

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at the time of the manner.

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I want to pick up the phone.

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I want to plan review time to be timely and so forth.

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when we recover a cost of service we position ourselves to be staff to accommodate that and so forth.

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I mentioned that these are fees and not taxes because their fees they are adopted by the city council at the conclusion of a public hearing.

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This is not a public hearing if you decide to move forward with this item you would schedule a public hearing and then you would consider it.

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I think an important note here is that fees really are intended to be dynamic.

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So, the council adopts them, you say, I understand these criteria being that I understand

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we're in compliance with the California Constitution and the California government code,

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and you decide to adopt fees, you can modify fees as needed, you don't need to wait long

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periods of time in between fee updates, you can refine and adjust as you receive stakeholder

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feedback as organization changes, as legislation changes, so we think of a fees as dynamic

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a dynamic process that should be evaluated

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for an ongoing basis.

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In our agenda report that you received,

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we reference these concepts,

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cost of service, cost recovery,

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and subsidy.

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I'm just going to walk through these very briefly.

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When we reference this idea of what does

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cost us to provide service,

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we're thinking primarily about who is providing a service.

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Is this a building activity?

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is this planning activity, is this an engineering activity, a police activity, and so forth,

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we can identify the hourly cost of those service providers, and if we know generally how long

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something typically takes, we can say, this is the hourly cost of that service, this is typically

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a two-hour service, and we can understand what our cost of service is. Our cost of service represents

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are sealing. That's our maximum fee amount. And a lot of times, what city councils do is

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they say, okay, I have received cost of service information. I understand what it costs me to

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provide these services and I understand what I could set fees at. And then they use this type of

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framework to actually make cost recovery decisions, philosophically they say to themselves,

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Do I see a very clear receiver of benefit?

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Do I see a high individual benefit to this activity being provided?

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And if so, they frequently target high-cost recovery levels.

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And if they say, I see some individual benefit,

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but I also see a community benefit here.

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They may say, I target some cost recovery,

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but I choose to deliberately subsidize a portion of this activity.

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And two common illustrations of this concept that we talk through are this idea of if I wanted to add square footage to my home or remodel my kitchen or put in a pool or something like that there is a very clear benefit to me as the person who gets to enjoy the new square footage or the new kitchen or the new pool.

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I enjoyed property value enhancements, I enjoy the new space and so forth, and so communities

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say frequently, I look to target high-cost recovery there because there is a very clear

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individual benefit and if I don't recover the cost from the person that's adding their square

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footage or putting them in the pool, I still incur the cost in Brawley. It just means the other

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residents and businesses and Brawley are paying for a portion of my square footage edition

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or my pool install, and so forth. Conversely, sometimes a community offers swimming lessons,

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and aquatic programs are expensive to maintain because pools are expensive to maintain

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your chemical cost utility costs and so forth. And we might see it ourselves.

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There is

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a very clear beneficiary. If I learn how to swim, I have developed a new skill set.

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I've

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able to participate in something good within the community, all these kinds of broad benefits.

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So there's a very clear individual beneficiary, but as communities frequently think

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we also benefit as a community when we offer somebody that life-changing skill and so communities

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frequently subsidize parks and recreation type programming activities because they say we benefit

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and you benefit. So that would be a lower cost recovery target.

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What you want to remember is your cost is the cost of service. So if something cost

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Brawley $400 to perform.

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But braw...

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Alley collects $200 from the receiver of service, broadly still incurred a $400 cost. It just got $200 from the receiver of service, and it has to find the other $200 from some broadly revenue source.

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And that's typically your general fund dollars, and so you, as accounts, will get to set fees and your prerogative not to exceed the cost of service, but you want to remember that when you choose to subsidize something,

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you are still incurring that cost. You're just saying, I'm recovering part of it from the receiver and I have to find the difference.

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And that is competing for priority with other city council goals and objectives potentially.

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So everything you've just heard to this point is common to California.

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What's going to happen from these slides forward is now specific to Broly.

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So, in broadly, what we're saying is, what are our guiding principles and considerations when we think about what to present to Council this evening?

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The number one thing we're concerned with is complying with state law.

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So, we say the California Constitution and the California Government Code give us a clear direction about what you are allowed to recover in fees and how to think through costs and so forth.

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So we believe the analysis supports that, but secondarily we think broadly specifically has community goals and values that may influence these recommendations.

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And so the recommendations before the city council are intended to align with major J support initiatives like maintaining essential services such as public safety services and tempting to promote economic development in that downtown area.

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So, the recommended fees, in many of the fees, you'll see what is considered a preferred use rate,

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like a discounted rate for development projects permitting in the downtown corridor.

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And so that is how we're thinking through the idea of looking to enhance cost recovery while maintaining

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a broad vision of, there's more than just cost recovery to be considered.

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There's also just broad community goals and values that are influencing these outcomes.

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Brawley's fee schedule similar to other fee schedules in California has hundreds and

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hundreds of items.

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Because you're trying to contemplate the various scenarios that can come through your door,

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some things happen relatively frequently, some things may happen once a year or even less

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frequently than that, but you still have a fee in place in case they do come through the door.

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And so because you have hundreds of fees, we have outlined each of them in your agenda

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report and in the proposed fee schedule, but for purposes of this evening, we're giving

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you a broad 30,000 foot view and what we're saying is, you can think of your world as

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development-related fees and non-development-related fees.

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For development-related fees, here's what we're thinking about.

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we're thinking about recalibrating the fees

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to improve your cost recovery levels.

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Because it's been sometimes since fees were updated,

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we're just restructuring the fees to align.

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What is the service being provided

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to the fee being collected?

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So it's just a cost recovery alignment,

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but also thinking through that idea

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of preferred use areas and potential reduced fees for those.

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And then, secondarily, this idea that

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In some cases you may say to yourself, I do want full cost recovery, but I realize that

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getting there overnight may be impractical, so using a phased in a approach over a multi-year

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period to enhance cost recovery and so in some of your fees, there's this idea of a three-year

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phased in for like land development, engineering type fees. Because these fees are regulatory

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in nature, and because there's that idea of a very high direct benefit from the activity

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to the receiver of service, like the idea of enhanced property values, enjoyment of the construction

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so forth, and the desire to have other Brawley residents pay for someone else's construction activity,

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other businesses subsidize competing businesses and so forth. We do think about the idea that most

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fees would target full cost recovery unless you have specific reasons not to go there like

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the preferred use area.

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There are discounted fees recommended for that downtown preferred use area.

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Also a lot of agencies discount a peel, not discount, but they subsidize the idea of a peel

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processing fees.

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If somebody says, I've worked with your staff, but I feel like I'm uncomfortable with

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decision that was made. I'd like to have a commission review this or potentially a city council review this.

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Agency's have appeal filing fees, but the appeal process of very expensive process.

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So frequently you see that as a subsidized fee. Broly is proposing in terms of the documents before the

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city council this evening. That would be a less than full cost recovery. Additionally, certain minor

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permits like residential HVC, change out residential water heater, change out, we're targeting less

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than full cost recovery in the schedule that's proposed for city council. Because of this idea

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that we really do want to encourage people to come in and pull these water heater type permits

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and then for an HVAC change that we want them to feel like there's nothing here to prohibit you

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from being able to go permit and understand how to move forward. There's also discounted fees recommended

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if you have, if you're proposing to do construction to accommodate a disability,

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we want to be able to participate with us to be reduced fees in place for that.

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If you're constructing affordable living units, and we value that as a community,

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we might ever reduce fees for that.

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But what's important to remember is any fee discounts that are being promoted here,

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any less than full cost recovery is not being placed on the backs of other permitties.

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It is a general funded service, so it is the general fund of Broly would say we value

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this and so we want to participate in it.

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So we think of the world in development related fees and non-development related fees.

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Now we'll work into the non-development fee world and you have things like business license

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application fees, library fees, airport fees, and rates,

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film permitting, recreation fees, police fees.

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So a whole broad gamut in several cases

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we're looking to move towards cost recovery.

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We're always thinking about aligning with state limits.

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And then what matters to a lot of communities

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is the idea of recreation fees.

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I mentioned that in most communities,

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we see less than full cost recovery target

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for recreation, because we do see

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community benefit from having people have access to to these services. And so in the case of

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Broly, we target less than full cost recovery for recreation, senior services, Lions Club,

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and so are a Lions Center. But we are proposing very minor adjustments in certain areas,

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like a $5 type adjustment in certain areas. If you leave fees on change in inflationary environment,

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you don't actually say the same, you go backwards.

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00:37:49,610 --> 00:37:52,610
So we're just trying to avoid going backwards.

460
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:54,630
That's the idea there.

461
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:59,810
A lot of times what we see is this idea that I mentioned

462
00:37:59,810 --> 00:38:02,450
that fees aren't tend to be dynamic, but occasionally,

463
00:38:03,390 --> 00:38:06,330
you may go long windows in between fee updates.

464
00:38:06,810 --> 00:38:08,730
And so most agencies we work with say,

465
00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:11,170
we acknowledge that this type of study

466
00:38:11,170 --> 00:38:13,690
should be done only periodically.

467
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:15,190
There's a cost to it.

468
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:38,290
There's a staff burden to participate in it, and so what they say is I will do this type of study every three to five years, and in the in between years, I'll just adjust my fees by some reasonable level of cost inflation and say look at regional cost inflation and they just adjust and then every three to five years they check in and say how close am I do I need to recalibrate.

469
00:38:38,290 --> 00:38:42,050
And so that's proposed in the as part of this study as well.

470
00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:44,430
And that's consistent with what we see in other agencies.

471
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:47,270
Finally, and I'll conclude with these slides.

472
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:49,410
I'll make my way quickly through them.

473
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:51,110
But a lot of times, the council says,

474
00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:54,910
I understand fundamentally what's being asked of me.

475
00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:58,390
I understand conceptually what's happening here.

476
00:38:58,570 --> 00:39:01,350
If I were to say yes to these proposed fees,

477
00:39:01,450 --> 00:39:05,150
would I be positioning broadly as some sort of regional outlier,

478
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:12,270
or what I'd be encouraging somebody to choose a neighbor over Brawley, if I said yes

479
00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:17,850
to these fees and so that's something we think about even though your costs are your

480
00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:24,250
costs and we prepare this analysis totally independently and link to your cost at the conclusion

481
00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:31,010
we look around and say if the council was to say yes to these proposals, would we be giving

482
00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:38,850
them cause for concern. And so we looked at City of Imperial, Imperial County, and El Centro

483
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:45,350
and said for common permits or permits that are readily comparable from permit to permit.

484
00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:52,170
What are we seeing? Brawly is in the light blue. Your neighbors are in the dark blue. And what

485
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:58,250
you see is Brawly today is at the low end of the spectrum. But there's some other agencies that are

486
00:39:58,250 --> 00:40:05,110
they're with you. It seems like you're all using a similar fee schedule. And so I think

487
00:40:05,110 --> 00:40:10,910
Imperial County did a study in 2022, but it looks like the remaining agencies. It's been

488
00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:17,050
sometimes since they adjusted their fees. So your costs are higher than your current fees.

489
00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:23,250
And so we are proposing to adjust your fees. But what we're proposing to do is say for the preferred

490
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:30,150
use areas, we would leave the fees unchanged so that you could tell somebody, hey, there's

491
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:34,990
no reason to choose somebody else over this downtown probably court or that's what you're

492
00:40:34,990 --> 00:40:40,630
seeing in this chart. Outside of that preferred use area, you would adjust your cost recovery

493
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:44,490
upward, but you'd still target less than full cost recovery for something like a water heater

494
00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:51,270
change out, or an HVDC change out. Another common permit request is electric service panel

495
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:55,690
upgrades. Again, you're seeing if it's happening, the preferred use area, you would remain

496
00:40:55,690 --> 00:41:02,310
at the loan of the spectrum. If you were outside of that area, we would adjust your fees to your

497
00:41:03,490 --> 00:41:09,830
real costs, which are more in line with the Imperial County, and we can confidently tell you,

498
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:17,450
El Centro and Imperial's costs are not $34 for this type of service. They just have an updated

499
00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:24,250
their fees, but based on what we know of cost of service and so forth, just fundamentally

500
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:29,190
you can't do an inspection for $34, so it's just the fees have been in place for some

501
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:29,790
time.

502
00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:35,390
Residential re-roughs here is an adjustment, but what we're trying to show you is in any

503
00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:39,930
of these cases, you would not be positioning yourself as a regional outlier.

504
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:45,250
There's nothing here that would indicate that we would be asking you to do something that

505
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:51,150
encourages somebody to choose another city over Brawley for their projects.

506
00:41:52,370 --> 00:41:56,910
So you're at the low end of the region today, you remain either in the mid range of the

507
00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,790
region or at the low end of the region for preferred use type projects.

508
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:07,210
In terms of fiscal impact, I know what council frequently thinks about what would be the

509
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:08,610
fiscal impact of these changes.

510
00:42:08,910 --> 00:42:14,190
It's very difficult for us to answer that question because of the idea of that preferred

511
00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:16,770
the use option, we don't know where development would occur.

512
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:19,250
If it occurred in the downtown corridor,

513
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:22,930
they would pay relatively similar fees to what they're paying today.

514
00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:25,030
So you wouldn't see a lot of fiscal impact.

515
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:30,250
The fiscal impact will come if development occurs outside of that pre-ferred use area.

516
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:34,370
And that happens occasionally, and it happens, and cyclically, and so forth.

517
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:40,250
So what we would recommend is that it was decided to move forward this year

518
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:46,970
adopt the fees and you would monitor actual revenue histories for a period of time and then you could

519
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:53,030
pro-rate that out for to think about what would a year typically look like when you get a few months

520
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:55,090
or a quarter of history.

521
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:02,460
So next steps for the City Council are to provide any initial feedback or

522
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:08,300
our questions that you have and then ultimately the City staff is looking for direction to schedule

523
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,680
public hearing and move forward for you to formally consider this item.

524
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:13,700
Thank you so much for your time and attention.

525
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:15,260
Thank you.

526
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:25,420
Just what kind of educational material would we make available to the public for any public hearing?

527
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:32,220
So, we are working on scheduling the public hearing if staff, if we receive direction

528
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:37,820
for December 2nd, we would do public notices and posting and so forth to inform people

529
00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:45,480
of this. In terms of implementation, we are working with various departments to develop what

530
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,480
that implementation will look like. In addition to that, we talked about outreach and education

531
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:56,360
and engagement to inform people of those potential changes depending on the results of the

532
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,340
public hearing on the second.

533
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:05,560
The appeal to the planning committee, why I was kind of wondering,

534
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:12,120
why they're so high to be honest with you because I mean, is it just putting, is it just

535
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,320
we getting the agenda and item and just putting on the agenda, what goes into, uh, and actually,

536
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:22,520
just because I've gone, I've gone concerns from small business owners as well who, you know,

537
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,600
they want to do something, they want to make me feel like why take that risk of a couple of grander

538
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:34,000
or what it's not even certain. Happy to speak to that Christian Barra Hospital and services director

539
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:40,940
here. Appeals before planning commission or city council typically entailed putting together a

540
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:48,920
well-informed staff report, well-informed studies of why some it really entails justifying

541
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:56,260
decisions both from like staff recommendations but also like trying to be fair with what

542
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:59,760
the request from applicants or property owners.

543
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,280
And that typically takes some time. We calculate it about that equal take up to like 40 hours.

544
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:16,780
Sometimes we put together these documentation as well. So that results in staff time that needs to be recovered.

545
00:45:17,740 --> 00:45:22,720
And it is basically done in service of the applicant or property owners.

546
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:30,360
to really potentially pay off or offset some of their requests that could result in greater expenses.

547
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:38,280
So, so say, so get a swapping to the process and say, go to Planck Mission, it's denied,

548
00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:40,720
and then they'd want to appeal it.

549
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:47,360
And they'd have to pay that cost of front or, like, I think they mentioned that the possibility of a waiver or getting those fees, again.

550
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:53,120
A waiver will be another process in which that's also need to be requested before City Council.

551
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,820
So it really just adds to the processes, right?

552
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:10,660
But not considering the waiver, they will pay upfront for that cost and if let's say we're talking about a conditional use permit.

553
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,980
Sometimes that cost really of sets itself, like what you would pay for a conditional use permit,

554
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,640
you are paying it for planning commission appeal, or an appeal before city council.

555
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:30,640
So a lot of those is just up to the applicant to decide which route they want to go,

556
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:35,900
but typically it is paid up front if there is no request for waivers or the furls.

557
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:39,400
And one of those fees right now, I guess we're gonna need a bar up.

558
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,000
But 12.

559
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,400
I believe it was $2,000.

560
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:43,700
$2,000.

561
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,060
And it's not like theater anything, so if it's even...

562
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:47,580
I'm just gonna propose less than $4,000.

563
00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:48,900
I'm just gonna propose less than $4,000.

564
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:51,180
So I think they're...

565
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:52,560
I can go back on this slide.

566
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Yeah, turn it to you.

567
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,080
Bye there.

568
00:46:55,940 --> 00:47:01,240
So, at it right now, what is being proposed is a subsidized appeal.

569
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,200
That $1,000 number is subsidized.

570
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,460
And I can tell you from agency to agency to agency.

571
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,460
What we hear is this idea that if something is

572
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:19,500
moved to the level of an appeal, what's happened first is staff has used

573
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:25,360
your own code to try and make an informed decision that aligns to that code

574
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,560
to say the code directs this based on this application and our own

575
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:37,820
code, we have to not approve this application or something like that.

576
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:45,720
And so before something ever gets to the appeal stage, staff attempts to work over and

577
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:50,680
over and over with that applicant to help them understand if you could modify this

578
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,340
or this, you would have a likelihood of making it through, but if the applicant says,

579
00:47:55,340 --> 00:48:00,240
I just fundamentally disagree with this and I'm not willing to modify that.

580
00:48:00,580 --> 00:48:03,680
I would like to go make an appeal to the Planning Commission.

581
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:11,800
Now staff has to go get ready to inform the Planning Commission again about all the reasons

582
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:18,580
that they felt like this was not aligned to that municipal code, to your own municipal code.

583
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:20,700
They typically have to inform the city manager.

584
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:23,560
They have to work with specialized attorneys in many cases.

585
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:53,000
So, you're talking about thousands and thousands of dollars of city costs to facilitate something where you've already tried to help them understand why your decision was originally made, and they're saying, I still don't like this answer, and I'd like to elevate it to another body, and so what city say is, I understand and I want you to be able to elevate it, but I also want you to acknowledge there is a value in communicating.

586
00:48:53,000 --> 00:49:00,340
there it is not without effort to get to our next level and we have worked hard to communicate

587
00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:05,260
with you at the staff level about why we made our decision and you're still not agreeing

588
00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:13,300
with it so now we're expanding 24 more hours and if you choose not to recover from the applicant

589
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:21,060
then you are making the rest of Brawley pay for those 24 hours and so city say I at least want

590
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:27,860
to have some skin in the game. I want you to be able to think through this idea of, do you

591
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:32,640
you feel like your complaint has enough merit to make it to the appeal level? And if so,

592
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:39,020
they say, please provide this. And in some cases, you may say, if your appeal is successful,

593
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:46,420
I'll give you back the appeal filing fee, but you have the appeal filing fee up front to

594
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:52,140
make sure they realize that they're asking you to do, they're asking your staff to do a ton

595
00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:57,140
of additional work when they've already done a ton of work to help you understand why

596
00:49:57,140 --> 00:49:59,100
they made their decision to begin with.

597
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,300
If I may just add one more thing, and in the short time that I've been here, I have not processed

598
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:12,240
an appeal for planning commission or city council.

599
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:20,400
We try to seek other alternative paths, whether that's a condition for approval, in a

600
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:28,420
sideline review, a temporary building permit, temporary certificate, or occupancy, so there

601
00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:35,680
are other vehicles in which we can help applicants meet certain requirements that we request from them.

602
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:40,440
And then that way, we try to be flexible with their project application.

603
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:47,640
So we really tried to resort to help applicants with and being flexible with their needs.

604
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,780
Can you walk us through the water heater change?

605
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,180
What is that until?

606
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:05,720
I wish I had my building inspector here with me, but the water they typically sent request.

607
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:27,720
there are typically request and inspection for a water heater change out to see if that will be an option and I believe they pay a minimal fee that's categorized as a minor inspection as well within our sketch or project schedule and then the fee for

608
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Twenty-seven dollars. I think we had it here. It was like, so in this case, it does intend to thank you for that.

609
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:44,260
It entails an inspector going and having that uniting spectator. And sometimes when you see cost like this,

610
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:52,500
it's not even enough to recover that inspection time. Even if that inspection takes 30 minutes or sometimes one hour.

611
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:56,180
It is not enough to recover the cost for it.

612
00:51:58,460 --> 00:52:09,780
And the processing of the permit as well, the documentation, the administrative fees and making sure that's recorded in our system as well.

613
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:25,760
So, Friday at my water heater goes out and I call a plumber. The plumber comes out. I've got to get a permit and the permit's going to cost me $146. The feed for change of that.

614
00:52:28,290 --> 00:52:36,290
if approved that was that was that was I have that that was my question how how did you come up with that number

615
00:52:37,370 --> 00:52:37,930
146

616
00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:47,650
and I will say that it will cost you 146 our understanding is the water heater is going to cost you 5,000 and the plumbers

617
00:52:47,650 --> 00:52:57,170
going to cost you 500 so this is a fraction of your total cost you're proposing 73 dollars right no we're

618
00:52:57,170 --> 00:53:04,110
posing 146 for the water heater change out. It might be 73 for like the preferred use area.

619
00:53:05,830 --> 00:53:11,930
But the permit processing fee is 73 dollars, but then you have an inspection on top. So there's

620
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:18,490
a permit that's issued and then an inspection that's conducted and I can just walk you through like the idea

621
00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:21,950
behind to that fee. So give me just a second.

622
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:37,430
$1,000. It's a $1,000.

623
00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:39,530
I think you need to be a system.

624
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:40,490
Yeah.

625
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:44,390
But I think people used to say the water heater is a hundred dollars.

626
00:53:44,570 --> 00:53:46,630
And it's not a hundred dollars, right?

627
00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:51,270
And so I'm going here,

628
00:53:57,220 --> 00:53:59,740
so

629
00:54:03,140 --> 00:54:11,940
in terms of the water heater change out, we've assumed roughly one hour of inspection time.

630
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:18,320
So a field inspection that could be one to one and a half inspections, but we're not assuming anything radical in terms of inspections.

631
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:28,520
The cost of that would be like $145 in staff time, but the proposed fee, I mentioned this idea of less than full cost recovery targeted here.

632
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:44,260
So we're saying like a $73 inspection fee and then you have the permit processing fee that applies to all permits and that permit processing fee is assumed to be a half an hour of staff time to document.

633
00:54:44,260 --> 00:55:04,280
So to take intake, document, record, and have it ready in your land management system, and so forth for future reference, so 73 plus 73 equals 146, but we had said that the true cost is 2018 because that inspection time we're choosing to not recover the full cost of that inspection.

634
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:11,440
kind of piggyback you know in the council in Cali. So say why he does go out? They change it.

635
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,380
Aiming triggers like inspection, because what if I see the feeling like I'm not going to even call this things.

636
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,900
I'm not going to pay on your 5040 bucks. I'm not even going to call the city to check it.

637
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,840
Is that like, is that a possibility of happening like the deetering?

638
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:33,160
Like the question will be like, yeah, say I have to change my water. He like councilman Cali said.

639
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,360
And I change it I buy I go to home Depot buy it and

640
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:45,700
They all you got again expected and I see the cost like oh, I'm not gonna spend a hundred farms. They keep is that as it is like is that

641
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,680
Probability of happening or how do we not even go and expect it?

642
00:55:51,210 --> 00:55:55,390
I mean, but basically I think there's a lot of people out there knowing in the city that when it's there

643
00:55:55,390 --> 00:55:56,890
We're gonna put the water in there

644
00:55:57,230 --> 00:56:04,550
Yes, yeah, we need to get a problem there. That's so ideally with the that one of the things we're working parallel to this is

645
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:11,570
implementing a permitting system for inspection requests. So ideally when that inspection is requested,

646
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:20,810
it will show that inspection cost for that water heater change out or for any other like solar panel inspection as well.

647
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:29,450
So that will be available in the future. But in the meantime, so a schedule like this will be published and it will be available to public.

648
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:32,390
I don't think so. Now, I guess the bigger thing is,

649
00:56:32,410 --> 00:56:35,690
where fees would deeter, not just inspection or devalent.

650
00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:39,490
Where's that balance of where fees would deeter any sort of someone

651
00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:44,230
wanted to pull a permit to build or devalent or to reinvest?

652
00:56:46,450 --> 00:56:51,570
So, so, what you're concerned about is if we set a permit fee at a level

653
00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:55,590
that disincentivizes people to come pull a permit, right?

654
00:56:55,590 --> 00:57:04,570
And I would say what we've seen in other agencies is, you know, a contractor is required to pull permits for certain projects.

655
00:57:05,090 --> 00:57:13,410
Whether they choose to do that or not, we don't believe that this fee would be the driver of that decision.

656
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:23,770
And the reason we can say that is we have seen other cities where they've gone to actual zero permit fees, to see what happens, and the permit volume doesn't actually change.

657
00:57:23,770 --> 00:57:38,350
So you offer zero rooftop solar fees, zero HVAC change out fees or something like that, and you look at your permit volume this year, and then you look at the permit volume the following year, and it is a very similar permit volume.

658
00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:46,010
So if somebody is not going to choose to pull a permit, they are just not going to choose to pull a permit, and you may never find out about it.

659
00:57:46,010 --> 00:57:52,130
may have like reactive code enforcement, but what we do, what we don't want to do is say I need

660
00:57:52,130 --> 00:57:57,010
to set it at a level that would say everyone will pull a permit. You will set it at zero and

661
00:57:57,010 --> 00:58:05,830
they still won't pull permits in some cases, right? So I think that is what we have seen

662
00:58:05,830 --> 00:58:11,510
is we don't want to be, we don't want to be prohibited, but we don't think that the numbers

663
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:13,810
proposed in the study are prohibitive.

664
00:58:14,110 --> 00:58:19,750
Normally, if you're utilizing a licensed contractor for the type of service that you're

665
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:24,250
doing, whether if it's a change out of a water heater or any type of construction, they

666
00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:29,490
normally are aware of what those permits are required to pull and they're usually a part of

667
00:58:29,490 --> 00:58:36,890
that process in pulling those permits or in working with the property owner to apply for those

668
00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:41,490
permits. I can speak from personal experience. I had a change out of water heater last year.

669
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:49,750
It was not fun. I wasn't happy with the additional $100 in some dollars that I had to pay for a permit, but I mean I I did it

670
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:54,450
And it was something I learned as well in that process, but we can include that in our educational

671
00:58:55,290 --> 00:59:02,390
Outreach information that we're working on in terms of the actual implementation of any fees. Yeah, and so yeah

672
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:07,710
What would happen if you replace it yourself and you don't get a permit, and I'm just asking for a friend

673
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:08,650
Yeah

674
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:16,070
people are really handy. I just don't know, they just don't know. I'm a young, not young.

675
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:23,570
Technically, you require a permit to do that. So it will be just permitted improvements to your home.

676
00:59:24,110 --> 00:59:32,790
So just wanted to, like, for context, share that specifically this building permit schedule for fees hasn't been updated since 2013.

677
00:59:33,450 --> 00:59:39,570
So we're talking about like more than 10 years of rates that have not been adjusted for inflation,

678
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:43,730
for construction material costs for equipment like that.

679
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:50,550
I got two more questions. So let's say I was doing this myself. I should go in and get

680
00:59:50,550 --> 00:59:57,370
a permit for replacing my motor here. That inspector is also going to inspect that you have the

681
00:59:57,370 --> 00:59:57,790
Correct.

682
00:59:59,630 --> 00:59:59,970
Where's the call?

683
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,320
All the, you know, seismic, seismic, right, the gallons of water heater. Correct, that it's up to safety standards.

684
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:16,220
And then what if I don't? What's what happened to me? So maybe, maybe, quote, enforcement can help.

685
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:21,380
The reason I'm asking this is because we have this app.

686
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:28,660
I could drive by and see my neighbor working in his garage to take a picture of him, but the thing is, it's got to be fair to everybody.

687
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:36,160
And that's why I do agree with this preferred side, but we need to outline that.

688
01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:43,860
And the reason why is because when you've got a commercial area is generating creating jobs and generating taxes for the communities.

689
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:50,280
But they have a water heater go out and they're saying, you know, I'm just not going to replace it because it's going to be too expensive then it's going to hurt the city.

690
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,600
So we need to identify that preferred area.

691
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,220
I'm very familiar with the counties,

692
01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,520
and I remember that this was a big issue

693
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,200
because how expensive it was.

694
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,880
And I thought I was like $600.

695
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:03,160
For the counties.

696
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,720
Yeah, counties in 600.

697
01:01:05,380 --> 01:01:05,820
Yeah, I don't quite.

698
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,140
When this came up with the county,

699
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,660
then they asked the question, why is it $600?

700
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,540
They said, because inspectors,

701
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:15,020
they may have to go 50 miles.

702
01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:15,700
Yes.

703
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:16,360
This is going to impact.

704
01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:18,440
But what if they only have to go a mile to inspect?

705
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,900
It's still the same chart, doesn't matter if it's my old 50 miles.

706
01:01:22,820 --> 01:01:25,860
And so I think that that's one of the other issues.

707
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,760
It doesn't cost the inspector.

708
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:33,140
The inspector only has to walk across the street rather than to the other side of town.

709
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:34,300
It's taking us time.

710
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,940
But we've got to cut it off somewhere.

711
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,140
You know, 100% recovery.

712
01:01:41,780 --> 01:01:43,060
What if it's more than 100%.

713
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,880
What if we determine that we're actually making money off the gate?

714
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:46,720
Then what happens?

715
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:46,720
You

716
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:58,840
know, to comply with state law, we are forced to, the maximum we can do is 100% cost recovery,

717
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:01,480
but we cannot exceed that cost recovery.

718
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,660
We cannot make a profit out of that service that the city is providing.

719
01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:12,500
So, again, part of this study and what clear source it for us, they did,

720
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:18,760
evaluated or cost. So if you look at the report, you're going to see all the actual cost

721
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:24,220
structure, per department, plus the overhead, and that the time study that was performed

722
01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:31,180
to determine how much is costing the city to provide that appeal or to issue business license

723
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:39,800
or to return a fee. Process our return check. So all those times, we're evaluated as part

724
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,000
of the current proposed fees.

725
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,600
I can see what, but it can see happening in the future.

726
01:02:45,980 --> 01:02:51,520
Let's say, as a product of implementing new technology, as Christian mentioned, maybe we are going

727
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,460
to implement a new permit in software that's going to reduce the time, the processing times,

728
01:02:56,780 --> 01:03:03,340
then the goal is that every year we consistently evaluate that cost structure for the

729
01:03:03,340 --> 01:03:09,160
and say, you know what, our cost, it's not no longer $6,000 into $145 for an appeal.

730
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:17,700
Our cost, it's now only $3,000, so then we can target a $550% recovery for that.

731
01:03:18,140 --> 01:03:22,520
So I think it's, the job doesn't end here with the proposed schedule.

732
01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:30,980
I mean, this is an exercise and the departments are going to get in the avid at looking at at least every year.

733
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:37,900
And of course, as part of our standard initiatives is trying to be more efficient, right?

734
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:46,080
Reduce that those time processes, so it's not that costly on an opportunity to our residents and our business owners.

735
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Are the other cities charging a fee for filming?

736
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:59,840
I believe so not all of them, this is a brand new fee that was added, but I don't think it's very popular among the Imperial Valley.

737
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,540
I think I believe probably the county or maybe all centers should have should have one, but I know there's one

738
01:04:05,540 --> 01:04:08,560
It's a new one that a new fee that was added to ours

739
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,660
And the reason I'm bringing that up because one of the reasons we're trying to attract

740
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:17,720
Filming here is because of the film companies come down. They stay in our hotels and

741
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:22,600
Now, they are charged at TOT attacks and that TOT attacks then goes back into the

742
01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:25,580
General fund which we use to market to bring them more film

743
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:29,700
We want to encourage more filming here, just like we want to encourage more building here.

744
01:04:30,020 --> 01:04:33,160
But I totally agree that the 100% I think that that's why we're going to have a public

745
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,560
hearing is here from the community and say, you know, this fees out of whack or this, you

746
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,200
know, this one's fine.

747
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:40,600
We don't know that yet.

748
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,440
I think you've done your research and we hope that we're on track.

749
01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:49,640
But you know, the other thing is that when I jot around town and I see somebody's, you

750
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:54,860
know, selling something on the side of the road, and I'm thinking, you know, that business

751
01:04:54,860 --> 01:05:00,480
over there. That restaurant over there had to pay a fee for his for everything that he does.

752
01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:06,640
And then I look at this guy over here. He's not paying anything. And so that's one of the reasons

753
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,840
that you can use this app that we have on our phone. You can take a picture and you can say,

754
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,540
you know, this person doesn't have a health permit and he doesn't have a sales permit. Therefore,

755
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:22,180
we're collecting those taxes and that's a leakage from our city because we should be capturing those

756
01:05:22,180 --> 01:05:27,680
access in these others. And I'm in favor of anybody making money, but doing it the right way,

757
01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:32,820
and also making it as efficient and quick as you can. And so I've had some experiences

758
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:38,120
in other areas where I went to, you know, the World Aguets pose, an example. I was going

759
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,320
to have food that I was going to be actually just handing out, but I need to have a health

760
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,720
permit. I didn't have to go to the county health department. They came to me. They walked

761
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,520
up and said, if you're serving food, it's $35 and you need a health permit, and we're

762
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,120
to you right now, it's going to take us five minutes. And we did it. So figure out a way that's

763
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,700
called efficiency. And so what's discouraging people from coming in, it's the time and it's

764
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:02,800
the money. So if we can make it quick, we can make it affordable. We're not going to have people

765
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,620
on the side of the road, selling whatever they're selling. They're going to say, we're going to do this

766
01:06:06,620 --> 01:06:12,380
right, and we're going to get a permit, we're going to get a health permit, and we're also going to be

767
01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:17,280
parked in the place where we should be, that's not going to affect traffic or be a danger to the community.

768
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:25,320
And I think that's what we're trying to get because it's just, you know, I have friends that have restaurants and they're doing everything they can to retain their employees and give them more hours.

769
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,920
And all the way can do that. It's getting more people through those doors. Keep their cost down.

770
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:42,280
So I think that, you know, I hope that we can have a public hearing and pass this soon and get it moving forward because the city needs to be able to get 100%.

771
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,440
But this question is, are we charging too much or are we charging too little?

772
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,420
I don't know.

773
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,220
All right, now we're trying to say charging too little.

774
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:54,040
Of crazy as it sounds, even though they are we're charging too little, that's undoubted,

775
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:54,880
bleak correct.

776
01:06:55,460 --> 01:06:59,400
Let me consider what's the same price today that it was in 2013?

777
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Not even dollar many.

778
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:07,660
So one of the comments that was made is, what we're looking at is pretty close to

779
01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:11,400
what we're going to have, or we said we're going to try to ramp it up over three-year

780
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,400
Yes. For some fish schedules, for example, for them. I believe for the planning and

781
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:24,860
engineering once. We are proposing a phase, a multi year approach. Of course,

782
01:07:25,540 --> 01:07:30,540
something we haven't mentioned is, yes, we are proposing all these fees, but we're going to

783
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:34,900
go through an implementation phase. We're going to need to require forms. We're going to

784
01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:41,100
update systems. Part of this, a new implementation. Right now, how the engineering and the planning

785
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:46,220
department collect those fees. It's very different right now. It's sometimes

786
01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:52,000
the deposit, a percentage of the project right now is a structure of fees. So it's

787
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:58,100
going to be staff learning how we're running to properly design and structure forms and

788
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:03,660
assistance so make sure we are collecting those fees. But right now the approach for engineering

789
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:08,440
and building it's a multi year approach and then for the other departments like the police

790
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,440
Department of Fire Department, we have a more standard fixed approach, like, okay, this is

791
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,160
what we're targeting.

792
01:08:14,660 --> 01:08:17,560
It's 100% cost recovery, it's 80% recovery.

793
01:08:18,980 --> 01:08:24,420
The other thing we did look at that, because as Terry mentioned, we don't want to look

794
01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:31,320
like here and the other cities are here, we want to be reasonable, so we went even further

795
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:38,020
on our analysis and staff went ahead and checked how much or we have other fire departments

796
01:08:38,020 --> 01:08:43,560
in the city are charging for various specific fees like, for example, paramedic services,

797
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,580
even our business license application fee that which we currently don't have.

798
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,200
Other cities do have it.

799
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,440
So we, we went ahead and that the extra step to make sure we were not over here.

800
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,740
We even with this proposed schedule, I think we are being reasonable based on our cost

801
01:08:59,740 --> 01:09:03,560
structure that I think that's something we need to consider, right?

802
01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:06,760
Every city's cost structure, it's different, it's very unique.

803
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:23,000
So we're trying to justify the cause recovery percentage but at the same time we're trying to be mindful of our residents and of the quality in that time and that it takes our staff to complete the work, right?

804
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:30,960
need to be done. Just to find a preferred area. Right now I believe that this initiative,

805
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:36,460
the preferred area, only focuses on mainstream, but I don't know if Christian, do you have any other

806
01:09:36,460 --> 01:09:42,020
areas of geography? Yeah, I can speak a little bit about this. So the preferred use, what we're calling

807
01:09:42,020 --> 01:09:49,500
preferred use areas, is specific to come to upcoming amendments to the downtown specific plan.

808
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:57,380
So this is not in place right now. There are no preferred uses right now. It's an innovative framework to try to capture

809
01:09:57,380 --> 01:10:05,360
past community visions of what downtown is supposed to look like in the coming years.

810
01:10:05,780 --> 01:10:15,160
While balancing more flexibility for more allow by right uses because that's one of the things we have been encountering that there's not enough allow by right uses.

811
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:21,600
So we're looking specifically at the downtown polygon within the specific planet.

812
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,800
And I do want to add.

813
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:30,160
It helps me tell him it's a good point about experience at the World Ag Expo.

814
01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:32,380
It guards that efficiency.

815
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:34,860
Like when we come to inspections, do they have to be in person?

816
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:38,160
And I mean that because I just had like my homeowner's insurance came.

817
01:10:38,740 --> 01:10:41,060
And I was able to send pictures on that, it's an honor system.

818
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:41,920
I get it.

819
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:48,700
but that saves them time to have the money and be able to e-mails and pictures and verify through that way.

820
01:10:48,860 --> 01:10:50,560
That saves them as we modernize.

821
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:58,380
One of the areas where we can explore more process efficiency is there's a way to do some of these virtually.

822
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,660
I believe that just in order to really ensure comprehensive and that systems are safe.

823
01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:11,560
They need to be in person, but there might be some different minor inspections that could be done

824
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:16,900
very slowly. So we're gonna we're gonna take that into consideration and explore opportunities

825
01:11:16,900 --> 01:11:22,540
And then also you took the one out of it. I was gonna propose your dollar fees. That was gonna be my little experiment tonight

826
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:23,600
No

827
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,840
But I think I like as business, you know businesses

828
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:33,100
You know people say government is running like a business. Why any business is gonna have to increase go up on price?

829
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:35,620
I mean, my parents have restaurants going back.

830
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:38,880
Their price are not the same that it was 10 years ago,

831
01:11:38,980 --> 01:11:40,720
three years ago, a year ago.

832
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,760
And so just being a good business,

833
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,920
even if we want to run the city like a business,

834
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,500
does require us to look at our prices

835
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,660
and see what we're generating and getting in return.

836
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,140
So I think when you do this public hearing,

837
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:56,000
I think it even for our end to provide us

838
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,040
how these increases, whether it's to the full success,

839
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,580
or how we adjust, moving forward,

840
01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:08,660
How we're going to increase efficiency but also reinvest into broad improve the quality of like I don't think people with mine

841
01:12:08,660 --> 01:12:14,020
I don't mind paint extra, but I need to know how is this going back into broadly?

842
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,280
It's just going in the salaries and maybe that's the case

843
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,600
But that also means better, you know more staff faster times

844
01:12:22,220 --> 01:12:28,580
I think incorporating that in these public hearings and even our messaging is how is these this change

845
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:35,580
going to improve broadly services. I think if you can do that incorporate that as you go

846
01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:39,340
out and inform people of these numbers it may take some of that sting away from people

847
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,920
you know may not just who are struggling. It's just tough right now. You've got to be

848
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,740
be honest as well. So any increase does make a big difference. So noted that it's very

849
01:12:48,740 --> 01:12:52,540
helpful. We'll make sure to include that in our presentation during the public

850
01:12:52,540 --> 01:13:04,620
just some notes to add. The staff each department did look very closely on the proposed fees that will be presented to you during the public hearing and that is in the backup.

851
01:13:05,140 --> 01:13:14,540
As you'll see there's various percentages in terms of cost recovery proposed cost recovery percentages because there really was a balance in.

852
01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:33,720
The impact it's going to have to those residents directly or anyone doing service with the city and also recovering and recuperating the cost to the city so it doesn't impact has greatly another funding source that we have.

853
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:39,040
Um, that was very much weighed and looked at very closely by each of our departments.

854
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:44,660
Um, you'll see them there as I said that the percentage is very, it can, there are even

855
01:13:44,660 --> 01:13:51,300
some that do recommend 0% very few, but there are some that recommend 0% and then there's

856
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:58,260
others up to 75, 80, there's not too many that are actually recommending 100% cost recovery

857
01:13:58,260 --> 01:14:01,040
because we're balancing that approach.

858
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:04,200
And there, it is a process just to let you know.

859
01:14:04,900 --> 01:14:08,460
So after the public hearing, whatever the results are,

860
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:12,160
let's say the recommendation or something different.

861
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,000
And the recommendation is adopted.

862
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,680
Implementation will not be immediate.

863
01:14:16,940 --> 01:14:19,840
As Sylvia mentioned, it's a process in terms of implementation

864
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,260
on our end internally on how that's going to be done.

865
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,920
Processes need to change as well.

866
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,020
forms need to change all of that.

867
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,600
So I think they anticipated implementation at this point

868
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,560
is some time February, and that will be shared with you

869
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,180
all during the public hearing as well.

870
01:14:37,620 --> 01:14:41,060
And it also gives us some time for our additional education

871
01:14:41,060 --> 01:14:42,420
as well in the community.

872
01:14:44,460 --> 01:14:48,040
All the fees going in general fund, or are they going to other sources?

873
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,680
That always is general fund.

874
01:14:50,860 --> 01:14:53,500
So the vast majority, yes, for the performance

875
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:55,380
at the long-to-the-general fund, yes,

876
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:59,960
they support the journal, but I think the only one that it's included on this.

877
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,920
This one, it's for the airport. Those go to the airport. But the airport fees are not, on this schedule, are the same as the current ones. We're not doing any changes to the airport fees. So the rest of the departments like building, engineering, finance, parks, recreation, all those are general fund departments. Therefore, this will be fee for, we will be general fund revenue on their fees for churches.

878
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:31,040
The reason I bring it up is because when we did one of the fees for basically vehicle impounds,

879
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:35,340
we didn't have a vehicle impound fee, but we started a department started a

880
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,100
motors, to that motors motorcycle, please not some motorcycles.

881
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:45,640
So what the department did is to support that, they took a percentage of all impound

882
01:15:46,300 --> 01:15:51,080
vehicle impound releases and that went straight, strictly to pay for motors,

883
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,340
basically they're training, the motor was everything, basically they went to pay for that.

884
01:15:57,140 --> 01:15:58,440
So, of course, we're not motors right now.

885
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:05,580
But I was so, if they, if they, if the department wants to do something new, if they want to try them,

886
01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:08,780
like, okay, we can raise, we're going to get this, we're going to get these fees,

887
01:16:08,980 --> 01:16:12,980
can we direct some of those fees to pay for this new, whatever they're going to do,

888
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:14,880
and how would they go about doing that?

889
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,040
Or would that be something that wouldn't happen anymore?

890
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:30,900
Like I said at the time, we didn't collect the impound fees for vehicle release fees, for impounding vehicles, and we started doing that when we got motors.

891
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:34,340
We just heard that some agencies had started the process, too.

892
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,360
And it's like, well, this will work for us.

893
01:16:37,140 --> 01:16:39,260
So I just wanted to download it.

894
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,460
If that's something that can happen or that's something that is a different process.

895
01:16:44,380 --> 01:16:53,280
Well, right now I guess that the common goal of this fees is to support the general fund, right

896
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:58,340
for all those services. Of course, this fees are going to bring revenue that we currently

897
01:16:58,340 --> 01:17:04,660
don't, they're not supporting the general fund. And the benefit of this fees is that now

898
01:17:04,660 --> 01:17:12,500
we're going to able to support training, implementation of new technology, improving and overall

899
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:19,320
just their processes, right? Like, and get some cause recovery to, again, be able to funding

900
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:25,980
general fund that it's now being used to subsidize private projects to go back and benefit

901
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:32,560
the community like our recreational programs around the pool, all of our summer camp, all of our

902
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:41,380
summer programs, and put it back on where the city believes they will benefit, will benefit the most

903
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:42,400
for residents, right?

904
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,200
So that's the general idea that's the goal, right?

905
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:49,060
Put it back to the community.

906
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:51,400
Yeah, of course.

907
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,640
So, if somebody, you know, fourth of July, somebody

908
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:01,060
lights off fireworks, you've gone to, I guess, change the policy.

909
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,600
So, it's no longer you write a ticket and they go to court.

910
01:18:03,660 --> 01:18:05,440
You write a ticket and they pay the ticket, is that correct?

911
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:07,340
What does that ticket cost?

912
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:08,540
$1,000.

913
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:09,280
$1,000.

914
01:18:10,780 --> 01:18:18,880
Okay, but for a polytechnic permit, pyrotechnic permit is $924.

915
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:24,840
So if I want to have fireworks, I can get a permit for $924.

916
01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:27,100
I just don't get the permit, hopefully I haven't got caught.

917
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,100
It's not that much more.

918
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,940
The penalty needs to be more for setting off pyrotechnics,

919
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:34,700
because it doesn't make sense to get a permit.

920
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:49,780
Yes, and again, the penalties maybe we can update those later, a solution to not reinforce, right, what we are trying to prevent to increase that penalty and say,

921
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:51,700
I rather pay the fee than pay the fine.

922
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:54,380
Yes, something we definitely need to look at.

923
01:18:54,380 --> 01:19:05,640
I'm not going to buy so many cars, no, but even like kind of going like EV chargers, like for a car, like you're going to afford an EV charger right now, I mean,

924
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:14,600
I think before I'm assuming, I'm saying like rooftop solar I guess and I guess you could kind of have a fuse at, I mean EV cars,

925
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,260
through a new EV card, $300,

926
01:19:19,340 --> 01:19:19,780
or probably,

927
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,160
I'm assuming you can afford that.

928
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:24,480
So it may be going up on that even as well.

929
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,440
Things like, I guess, that's more specific,

930
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:28,980
but I get where you get in that, I get where you get enough.

931
01:19:28,980 --> 01:19:30,240
So, I'm going to the question.

932
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:32,300
So let's say there's a hotel here,

933
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,300
and they're going to replace all their water here.

934
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,640
They pay fee for every water heater for the inspection.

935
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,940
That will depend on the building,

936
01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:50,760
configuration, the amount of water here, but there's typically, I believe there's a distinction

937
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,700
between the commercial and residential costs as well, so there will be applicable for the

938
01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:57,580
commercial schedule.

939
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,640
How do you have a house?

940
01:19:58,820 --> 01:20:02,820
You have two water heaters, you have a house with ADA when you're replacing both water units.

941
01:20:03,020 --> 01:20:11,440
I believe the inspection can be efficient enough to inspect for both unless there was specific

942
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:19,400
condition where like the two needed to be treated separately or there will have to be like

943
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,160
like what we call a secondary inspection where they need to return a second time for their

944
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,480
part was missing or something like that. Then at that point we will be talking about separate

945
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:34,980
fees but we try to be efficient with our inspections even in the way we plan our routes to

946
01:20:34,980 --> 01:20:40,160
conduct our inspection we try to not be from one point in town to all the way across other

947
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:45,880
how we try to have a loop system where we can be more efficient even in the way we do that.

948
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:51,240
So let's say you have a contractor and I'm working on the house and I'm doing a placing

949
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:56,180
a water heater. There's electrician right next door that's replacing a electrical panel.

950
01:20:58,340 --> 01:21:01,500
Same inspector goes out in the specs both. Yes.

951
01:21:02,660 --> 01:21:04,620
And if they were at the same time, they're taking it.

952
01:21:04,620 --> 01:21:09,300
That will be ideal. Yes. So. So the savings for the city, but it's no savings for the residents.

953
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,820
Well, they're still two separate items.

954
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,420
They're two administrative processes that

955
01:21:16,420 --> 01:21:17,900
for different applicants.

956
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:19,500
So do you want us to?

957
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,200
I'd like to try to trap us here.

958
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:25,480
It's on an average in California, and in particular

959
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:27,400
in the building fees, and you will see this

960
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,480
from agency to agency to agency.

961
01:21:30,140 --> 01:21:32,680
There is this idea of estimated and reasonable.

962
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,060
So the reality is, Brawley will win on some,

963
01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:37,580
and Brawley will lose on some.

964
01:21:37,580 --> 01:21:44,300
You're trying to come up with something that's 6 out of 10 times aligns to what you're expecting to do.

965
01:21:44,660 --> 01:21:50,960
So there are some projects that need two or three inspections, but if the vast majority of your projects need one inspection,

966
01:21:51,620 --> 01:21:57,280
you're going to set your fee to be linked to one inspection, and you lose on the one that needs three.

967
01:21:57,740 --> 01:22:02,100
If one needed, if sometimes you need two, but this one was just perfect and you'll need it one,

968
01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:06,980
you're still going to collect based on the estimated reasonable, so that it's not

969
01:22:06,980 --> 01:22:17,960
in federal guidance, they say, think through the idea of the additional effort to provide greater

970
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:18,720
refinement.

971
01:22:18,980 --> 01:22:20,260
And so that's the sweet spot.

972
01:22:20,260 --> 01:22:27,340
As we're trying to say, what captures the simplest and tries to be fair to all acknowledging

973
01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:29,400
that there are certain differences.

974
01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:32,420
So let's say my water heater is not installed correctly.

975
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:33,340
You've got to come back.

976
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:35,020
Is there an extra charge for that?

977
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:35,420
No.

978
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:41,160
that would be like a just a normal, included, typical re-inspection, our V-Schedule does

979
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:46,580
contemplate like abusive behavior, so there is an acknowledgement that we would go out.

980
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,220
We would give you feedback and say, we're coming back in seven days, have this ready.

981
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,560
If you totally ignore the city's feedback and you are not ready, you missed the inspection.

982
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,440
You don't even show up or we're coming back and saying, over and over, we've told you what

983
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:03,940
to do and you're just ignoring it, you now in the V-Schedule.

984
01:23:03,940 --> 01:23:09,980
So the idea is behavior, like helping behavior, so you're hoping you'll never use it,

985
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,180
but you do have this idea of like an excess inspection fee.

986
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:21,880
Like we have assumed that you would honor this feedback if you continually ignore it,

987
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,920
and you continually bring us out, you're now wasting the resource of probably.

988
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,120
And so you'd have an excess inspection that could be applicable.

989
01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:33,000
Mr. Mayor, is our goal to have the public hearing at the next meeting and approve at the next meeting?

990
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:43,340
That's for me to say. Yeah, one more question. What if my water here's a 1998 model with the brass? No, but I think I think you kind of

991
01:23:43,340 --> 01:23:49,580
You kind of work in generalities and forges was just scope of the population we serve and then people and I think

992
01:23:49,580 --> 01:23:55,460
You see that would cover men sometimes you do but they pass along and then they sometimes the specifics you want to get more specifically

993
01:23:55,460 --> 01:23:59,740
They thought a lot on top of the lawn, so I think like you said, just take some

994
01:23:59,740 --> 01:24:03,320
wind, take some losses, but just kind of overall, the doing are best.

995
01:24:03,380 --> 01:24:09,260
And like you said, these fees can be adjusted at any point after this hearing.

996
01:24:09,540 --> 01:24:12,440
So say one in particular, we get a lot of concerns.

997
01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:17,340
We can agendas this at any moment to go through the process.

998
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:24,720
I don't know if we have to pull the feet to permit to, but then we can just adjust it accordingly,

999
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:31,660
going by concerns by even other cities. So this is a living. These are going to be living fees,

1000
01:24:31,660 --> 01:24:36,620
essentially. Yes, that's correct. Which I haven't been. Yeah, they haven't been. They haven't been.

1001
01:24:37,060 --> 01:24:42,040
And at least minimum every year, we're going to be looking at those. We understand that there's going to

1002
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:47,100
be some occasions. We're probably going to need to come back and revisit some fees. We are adopting

1003
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:52,240
those fees if approved. Be a resolution. It's not on our ordinance. So through a resolution,

1004
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:57,520
will be able to update, I don't know, just a set of specific fees, or if we want to look

1005
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:04,580
further into the preferred use rate, what does it entail? Is it's only for Main Street,

1006
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,200
are we including other areas? So there's, there's a, many other considerations that we can include

1007
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:15,460
to adjust this. So right now it's just a starting point, and again, we are going to,

1008
01:25:15,460 --> 01:25:22,180
always to continue to fine tune these fees as we have more experience implementing them.

1009
01:25:23,140 --> 01:25:27,180
I guess what you put these fees are these are these the max like they can only go

1010
01:25:27,180 --> 01:25:34,460
defer to just they can only go down. So if we go through the report every department and on its schedule

1011
01:25:34,460 --> 01:25:40,440
has a column that determines the percentage of the cost recovery what you're going to see is many

1012
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:45,580
and I think a lot of them are not targeted 100%.

1013
01:25:45,580 --> 01:25:49,180
Almost every fee, it's targeted below the 100%.

1014
01:25:49,180 --> 01:25:51,140
And by law we can go, but I don't know.

1015
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,540
So if it's 100% or law we're not actually...

1016
01:25:53,540 --> 01:25:55,460
Right now, you're going to see, on their engineering.

1017
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,360
You're going to see 80% recovery.

1018
01:25:58,740 --> 01:26:05,680
I think police, it's between 50% to 70%, finance has 80% on some fees.

1019
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,640
Some others, it's 5% for parks and recreation.

1020
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:15,100
And I think some fees went on change or not doing anything for example for paramedic services,

1021
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:21,840
EMS services, there's no change where living the fee as is because we don't want to impact negatively

1022
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,000
our residents that need that service.

1023
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:31,260
So there we didn't took an approach like a flat approach, okay, we're just going to increase our fees by 50%

1024
01:26:31,260 --> 01:26:36,980
or 100% each fee was analyzed one by one to ensure that it was reasonable.

1025
01:26:36,980 --> 01:26:40,260
And just for the public's knowledge, how many fees are there?

1026
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:40,980
Oh my god.

1027
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:42,560
But I'm trying to count.

1028
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:43,740
It's hundreds.

1029
01:26:43,860 --> 01:26:45,080
Like, yeah, it's hundreds.

1030
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,460
400, 300, and something.

1031
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:53,000
And again, some fees had to be redesigned.

1032
01:26:53,340 --> 01:26:53,540
Right?

1033
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:55,440
Right now, maybe it was just a lump sum right now.

1034
01:26:55,660 --> 01:26:58,820
We're breaking down that fee into three to make it more transparent.

1035
01:26:58,820 --> 01:27:01,940
And more clear, we understand sometimes that we have customers,

1036
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:03,480
reaching out to us.

1037
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,320
And they don't understand what the fee entails.

1038
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,960
right now we're able to tell okay this is what the application cost and this is what the

1039
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:17,440
inspection cost and they can make informed decisions about their project right yeah so for

1040
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:23,760
the for that public hearing need to let the public know that we've hired a consultant there's over

1041
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:30,760
400 fees that we looked at individually and we came up with the best guess of why the cost is

1042
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:35,160
for providing that service and that's why we're charging those fees for that being said I'd like

1043
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:41,220
make a motion that we put this on the agenda for approval of public hearing for the next meeting

1044
01:27:41,220 --> 01:27:42,540
and hopefully approval.

1045
01:27:43,060 --> 01:27:43,120
All right.

1046
01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:43,780
Motion.

1047
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:44,820
Second.

1048
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:45,660
I'll second.

1049
01:27:46,140 --> 01:27:47,060
Any other discussion?

1050
01:27:49,540 --> 01:27:54,960
When we open our public hearing, is it potential for us to carry the public hearing onto additional

1051
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:01,560
council meetings, should the public have greater interest than anticipated that we get

1052
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,660
extend the public hearing?

1053
01:28:03,180 --> 01:28:03,300
Yeah.

1054
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:06,820
the discussion on the results of the discussion yesterday.

1055
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:10,420
That's an alternative that will be provided in the staff report.

1056
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,120
Actually, yes, so this will work me through.

1057
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:19,140
We're now the public hearing and action would be taken to accept or deny or modify.

1058
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,300
That's the request that this is under during the public hearing.

1059
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:23,200
All right.

1060
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:25,380
Is that so far?

1061
01:28:25,420 --> 01:28:28,900
I mean, or trust me, grass guy did make a good point on.

1062
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:32,080
Can we have like a workshop on this?

1063
01:28:32,860 --> 01:28:33,820
I'm sorry.

1064
01:28:35,020 --> 01:28:35,620
I'm sorry.

1065
01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:36,340
Good.

1066
01:28:36,620 --> 01:28:38,420
Yes, just declare five.

1067
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:43,660
You can, in the C Attorney, my Chairman, but let's say you schedule public hearing

1068
01:28:43,660 --> 01:28:50,040
for December 2nd, and at the conclusion of the public hearing, you for some reason felt like

1069
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,240
we're actually not ready to make a decision, yes or no.

1070
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:59,860
You could direct the continuation of the public hearing to a later date, so you don't

1071
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:02,380
you're not forced to make a decision, yes or no?

1072
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,500
Were the purpose of this, you mean, though,

1073
01:29:05,620 --> 01:29:08,580
was essentially to be a workshop format,

1074
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,900
so that you could have information, you could digest,

1075
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:16,900
and we hopefully position you to make a decision, yes or no?

1076
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:19,380
Sorry, goal is not to continue it,

1077
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:21,900
but if you're intros to do that, you have the option to do that.

1078
01:29:22,020 --> 01:29:24,800
As I can anticipate though, individuals say,

1079
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,340
hey, we didn't have enough time to go over the 400 fees,

1080
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,040
whether it impacts them or not, it's still a concern.

1081
01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:41,820
And so I guess the motion of seconds on the floor, but I would anticipate a for future

1082
01:29:41,820 --> 01:29:46,900
for more and for, I guess, outreach just as a heads up.

1083
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:51,680
Well, and I don't know if you had an opportunity to review the executive summary, but I think

1084
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,300
it does kind of go over a lot of the questions that we did ask.

1085
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:59,980
And so I think our hope is that we have a public.

1086
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,620
And then we approve it, but if there's need to move it forward, then we can.

1087
01:30:05,860 --> 01:30:07,880
And will you be here at that next meeting?

1088
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:09,820
I think it's okay.

1089
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:18,180
You know, was there a familiar with it?

1090
01:30:18,780 --> 01:30:21,840
Is there a way that you evaluated?

1091
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:29,220
What was the scenario you went through to evaluate the fees?

1092
01:30:29,220 --> 01:30:34,760
So, what we say to ourselves is we are numbers experts.

1093
01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:40,180
We understand city budgets, we understand city organizations, we understand this idea of how

1094
01:30:40,180 --> 01:30:47,280
is cost of service calculated, and we say staff are planning experts and building experts

1095
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,240
and engineering experts and water utility experts.

1096
01:30:50,780 --> 01:30:56,900
And so we ask them in Brawley, based on what you encounter in this community, how long would

1097
01:30:56,900 --> 01:31:03,520
typically take you to deal with a appeal processing or conditional use permitting or design

1098
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,340
review or a minor water heater change out and we had them walk through that with us we showed

1099
01:31:09,340 --> 01:31:15,440
them some of them said I've never been through a few study before and so I don't know what the

1100
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:19,720
world looks like we showed them options of what different schedules could look like so we said

1101
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:26,140
forget about the dollar figures just look at structurally do you feel like this schedule would

1102
01:31:26,140 --> 01:31:31,720
to accommodate the things that comes through the door and probably, and do you feel like it can make it easier to administer?

1103
01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:43,120
So we ask questions like that, we help try and present the world available to them, and then let them know that if something takes you an hour of time,

1104
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:51,100
this is the value of that hour, because they are experts at doing building inspections in plan for you, but not necessarily costing out a service.

1105
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:52,980
I guess the word I'm going for is a methodology.

1106
01:31:53,740 --> 01:31:53,760
Yeah.

1107
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,040
There you are, to do that.

1108
01:31:55,420 --> 01:31:57,360
Did you find any inefficiencies in the city

1109
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,040
the way that we are conducting business here

1110
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,180
that we could make improvements on?

1111
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,100
So I just, I need to be clear.

1112
01:32:04,540 --> 01:32:06,880
We didn't not conduct any efficiency study.

1113
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,100
We're not organizational evaluers.

1114
01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:12,840
We don't say, you should combine this shop with this shop

1115
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,720
but I would say the analysis indicates

1116
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,160
that there was nothing that showed

1117
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,000
that your costs are disproportionately high

1118
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,660
what we would expect when we calculated the cost of service, it was in line with what we would

1119
01:32:24,660 --> 01:32:27,000
expect and probably. Thank you.

1120
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:34,500
It's got a motion, got a second, any other comments? Not, all right, all those in favor say aye,

1121
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:40,420
any opposition, upcension, motion passes. Thank you. Thank you very much.

1122
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,680
I didn't say

1123
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:56,600
provide you with a brief update on the Broly Connect app. As we've tried to continue this practice,

1124
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:02,500
we try to update you guys on the subscriptions and information that's being provided on a frequent

1125
01:33:02,500 --> 01:33:09,340
basis. Go ahead and make it. Good evening Mayor, council members. Just a quick update on our progress

1126
01:33:09,340 --> 01:33:16,120
with Broly Connect since going live on July 1. We have received a total of 268 service requests

1127
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:17,700
through the app.

1128
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:22,060
Of those requests, 230 have already been successfully completed and closed.

1129
01:33:22,380 --> 01:33:25,340
136 of those requests were closed within 10 days.

1130
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,280
Which I think reflects the efficient handling of those requests by our staff.

1131
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,340
We currently have 38 requests that are open.

1132
01:33:32,660 --> 01:33:37,480
Those have already been assigned to the appropriate teams and are actively being addressed.

1133
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:43,660
In addition to the request activity, we now have 321 registered users on

1134
01:33:43,660 --> 01:33:50,720
connect, I believe the last time I gave an update on October 7th. We were at 1.99.

1135
01:33:51,380 --> 01:33:57,320
So that shows the growing user base. When was that last trip? I checked it today.

1136
01:33:58,020 --> 01:34:04,980
Okay. Checked it today. Checked it this morning. So it's 122 additional users from October 7th.

1137
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:09,160
When I last gave an update, I think it shows that the residents are engaging with the platform.

1138
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:13,640
They're

1139
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:20,840
Why we have that up and I'll be happy to answer any questions anyone they have on probably connect

1140
01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:26,610
I would just like to say how useful it is and how much

1141
01:34:27,690 --> 01:34:31,610
You know as council member I'm out there in the public and people make a complaint

1142
01:34:31,610 --> 01:34:37,310
I said if you downloaded the app and we sit there we download together and I show them what I've done and and I'm

1143
01:34:37,310 --> 01:34:38,510
Getting phone calls for people

1144
01:34:39,330 --> 01:34:40,290
saying how

1145
01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:46,010
responses of the police department is and code enforcement has been and so I think I think

1146
01:34:46,010 --> 01:34:51,210
I think it's really helping and I really do appreciate I'm glad that we approved this and

1147
01:34:51,210 --> 01:34:55,230
I remember there was a time we wanted we wanted to say let's put it on the next agenda and the next

1148
01:34:55,230 --> 01:34:58,770
did you guys see let's just do it now and so it's been very helpful thank

1149
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,900
you thank you thank you

1150
01:35:02,900 --> 01:35:07,880
thank you and then in addition to that city staff just wanted to provide some brief updates

1151
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,040
city staff participate in the cattle car parade was a float.

1152
01:35:11,420 --> 01:35:15,720
It was designed to build decorated and paid for by city staff.

1153
01:35:15,860 --> 01:35:17,740
It was a fun family friendly event.

1154
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,280
We had a lot of participants from different departments

1155
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,460
that participated not only to help build it,

1156
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:25,920
but in the parade itself.

1157
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,140
So I want to thank all those that contributed

1158
01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:31,600
to making the flow and participating in the parade.

1159
01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:35,080
Thank you very much, planning a specifically building department.

1160
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:41,940
they literally built our frame and everything so it was really nice. Last week the city hosted

1161
01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:47,820
its Veterans Day celebration out here at the memorial wall many of you attended. We want to

1162
01:35:47,820 --> 01:35:54,000
thank the Parks and Recreation staff for helping to coordinate that event. It was very well organized

1163
01:35:54,000 --> 01:36:02,580
event and we did have assistance from both the fire department and city managers office to put that

1164
01:36:02,580 --> 01:36:06,680
event together, so you want to acknowledge those different participants, organizers,

1165
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:09,120
and

1166
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:09,720
so forth.

1167
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:15,280
And then upcoming events, City Council reorganization special meeting is on Wednesday, December

1168
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:25,000
3rd at Heath Doggo Society Hall at 6pm, when I invite everybody to attend, and then also

1169
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,940
our tree lighting ceremony along with the Santa's local workshop.

1170
01:36:29,940 --> 01:36:36,880
this is in coordination with the Broly Chamber. We'll be on Friday, December 5th at Plaza Park.

1171
01:36:37,140 --> 01:36:43,460
The event is scheduled to begin at 4 p.m., but the tree lighting ceremony will take place at 6 p.m.

1172
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:50,560
So if you can save the date on your calendars. That's it on my end. All right.

1173
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,800
Guess what it reports? I'm talking to the start of my right. Councillor Monita. All right. Yes, I attended the

1174
01:36:59,740 --> 01:37:06,460
board meeting for the library, brought to my attention that the library is on December 11th

1175
01:37:06,460 --> 01:37:12,160
at 3 o'clock at the library they're going to have Santa Claus for the kids. Also, I guess

1176
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:18,160
at the mall on December 6th and the food court in the center from 2 to 5 is going to be local

1177
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:23,660
authors. They're going to be there. Some of these people are interested in some of the people

1178
01:37:23,660 --> 01:37:26,280
from the valley that are ever in books here in the valley.

1179
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:31,420
At this point I just like to

1180
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:37,060
Chief Daran for inviting me to take his place in the Border Patrol horseback ride through

1181
01:37:37,060 --> 01:37:43,920
the city. That was a lot of fun. Enjoyed it a lot. Seeing the kids interact with the horses

1182
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:51,820
and they just got so excited and had a lot of fun. Enjoyed the ride a lot. Been a long time since

1183
01:37:51,820 --> 01:37:58,660
I've ridden, but the saddle sorn is brought it back real quick. But that was like so any event

1184
01:37:58,660 --> 01:38:01,460
I had a great time thinking to you.

1185
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:12,380
Yes, so myself and Mr. Mayor did the 8.3 mile walk from West Moreland to Raleigh, and it's

1186
01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:17,360
followed by a luncheon at the Idoggahal, put on by the

1187
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,820
Arab pro-Tem, and the Raleigh

1188
01:38:22,820 --> 01:38:26,500
looks a lot, so it's a very good meal, and a lot of people attend, so it's very happy

1189
01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:27,040
about that.

1190
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:36,920
They staffed it a really good job on that, so I want to commend them, but the community was saying they want to make the bigger and better next year, so we're going to work on that and start preparing for it.

1191
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:49,560
I was, I missed the call of call festivities for the most part, I was in Argentina and I had a really interesting trip and as in an area that was very much like the Imperial Valley, beautiful farm area.

1192
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:58,440
It's been a lot of time out out of the city and we're having some of the people that I met there come out to the Imperial Valley.

1193
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:10,560
But I just wanted to bring your attention that in, you know, December 10th will be hosting an event and I'll send you out about 50 laptop computers at the library.

1194
01:39:11,220 --> 01:39:13,440
And we want to have the next event here in Brawley.

1195
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:16,880
So last year I think we passed out probably about 300 laptops.

1196
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:22,600
The next event we'll have in Brawley would like to do it at the library, and basically

1197
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:28,120
we put the message out there, the people that are in need, and we market the ACP, the

1198
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:33,800
affordable connectivity program, as well as try to provide as many laptops as we can to

1199
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:34,180
the community.

1200
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:35,900
So I think it's really helpful.

1201
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,660
I was in Calapetary yesterday, they requested two laptops.

1202
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:41,660
When we got there, we said, well, we could use three more.

1203
01:39:41,660 --> 01:39:46,200
they should have asked for five so we'll be delivering three more to them. So there's a real

1204
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:53,560
need out there and I hope that together we can all address that need. That's it. There

1205
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:54,220
are pro-10.

1206
01:39:58,530 --> 01:40:04,630
Let's see. So I can start off the week at Mariachi night. Very packed. There's a

1207
01:40:04,630 --> 01:40:10,610
great event. Then moved on to Thursday the 6th. You can attend at the Noche de Fiesta

1208
01:40:10,610 --> 01:40:19,070
at the Hidalgo Hall, as well attended, also did not do the Elx veteran walk this year, had

1209
01:40:19,070 --> 01:40:26,810
a bum knee, so I just came to the ceremony here, outside the building, it was very nice.

1210
01:40:27,890 --> 01:40:31,910
Elx did a great job putting the Elx in the city, actually putting everything together.

1211
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:35,090
So that was great.

1212
01:40:35,670 --> 01:40:41,790
I did attend the I.D. Public Green Space Grant Tree Planings.

1213
01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:44,850
Sir, Moni, I guess, what they had.

1214
01:40:46,710 --> 01:40:49,530
So I was very surprised those trees are huge already.

1215
01:40:50,590 --> 01:40:54,670
So it would be no time to focus a lot of shade there at that retaining basin.

1216
01:40:55,210 --> 01:40:58,890
So I look forward to seeing that whole park when it's complete.

1217
01:41:00,450 --> 01:41:09,090
and kids actually playing on it so and that is all I had, so thank you.

1218
01:41:09,410 --> 01:41:13,890
Thank you. I thank you to staff for Catacom. That was a crazy week.

1219
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:19,670
Like Mayor Pro Temkavon said, my reaction night seems to just keep growing and growing

1220
01:41:19,670 --> 01:41:24,350
and so I think they've been working with the Chamber on how you can build upon it.

1221
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:28,110
If it's something, if it's something there, then, you know,

1222
01:41:28,210 --> 01:41:29,370
bill that we got from it.

1223
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:34,350
And so I think, because it's like a river of like a night, right?

1224
01:41:34,350 --> 01:41:37,210
Just a lot of people just going in.

1225
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:38,570
So I think we can open it up.

1226
01:41:39,390 --> 01:41:41,250
It seems like everyone from the valley comes

1227
01:41:41,250 --> 01:41:43,870
and Mexico is world to the mariachi night.

1228
01:41:43,970 --> 01:41:47,950
And so I think that's opportunity to keep it, just grow it.

1229
01:41:48,750 --> 01:41:51,410
So I think that you have stuff, I know that in PD and fire,

1230
01:41:51,410 --> 01:41:58,910
I saw a Delo and York and all the police officers out there, you know, keeping handling that

1231
01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:59,210
crowd.

1232
01:41:59,630 --> 01:42:01,630
And so, thank you all.

1233
01:42:02,090 --> 01:42:07,130
And then also, I know today, Alice Rupert was repainted.

1234
01:42:08,310 --> 01:42:16,010
I know there are some social media between Colleque and Brawley kids, causing trouble and tag

1235
01:42:16,010 --> 01:42:17,030
and send and thought right.

1236
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:19,630
And so I know collects those interesting

1237
01:42:19,630 --> 01:42:21,830
some sort of joint meeting, even bringing in probation

1238
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:26,490
and law enforcement just because you guys,

1239
01:42:26,670 --> 01:42:29,090
it's just, oh, escalate, yeah, right now it's tagging

1240
01:42:29,090 --> 01:42:31,190
and then it's a peri, you know,

1241
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:34,250
if you don't catch it early, then you just,

1242
01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:35,110
it won't end well.

1243
01:42:35,290 --> 01:42:37,050
And so when you see these things being flaunted

1244
01:42:37,050 --> 01:42:41,870
on social media, gang signs, and then it goes into,

1245
01:42:42,050 --> 01:42:42,950
spilling into our parks.

1246
01:42:43,150 --> 01:42:44,970
Like there's no reason for a parks to be tagged.

1247
01:42:44,970 --> 01:42:48,990
And so, yeah, just put that on your radar.

1248
01:42:49,230 --> 01:42:53,810
I don't collect the go their mayor wants to take action

1249
01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:54,770
understandably.

1250
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:59,070
And so, we see it, and thank you to staff for, you know,

1251
01:42:59,210 --> 01:43:01,830
going out there and covering it up because

1252
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:04,750
the broken window theory and all, you know, just blight.

1253
01:43:05,890 --> 01:43:08,310
Hmm, it's good to send a message that we're not going to stand for it.

1254
01:43:08,910 --> 01:43:10,930
But we see it, we see these things on social media.

1255
01:43:10,930 --> 01:43:16,550
They don't, you know, they're not, they're not, they're not not being seen.

1256
01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:20,170
So I have to close my report, city attorney.

1257
01:43:21,250 --> 01:43:28,890
So we did file that code enforcement, nuisance, nuisance, abatement case on the against the owners of cooks market.

1258
01:43:29,310 --> 01:43:32,970
I haven't gotten it back from the court yet, which is surprising.

1259
01:43:33,230 --> 01:43:34,530
It doesn't usually take that long.

1260
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:36,930
But as soon as I get it back, we'll get it served.

1261
01:43:36,930 --> 01:43:49,450
And from a business owner's perspective on the plaza, it's remarkable that you have that many people with very little mess at all afterwards.

1262
01:43:50,510 --> 01:43:53,150
I mean, I know the city staff took care of that.

1263
01:43:53,390 --> 01:43:55,650
It's like it never happened the next day, unbelievable.

1264
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:57,330
Oh yeah.

1265
01:43:58,170 --> 01:43:59,110
Thank you.

1266
01:43:59,370 --> 01:44:00,570
An informational report.

1267
01:44:02,530 --> 01:44:06,630
Alright, we do not have to go in the close, so that being said this meeting is adjourned.