[1:59] Mhm.
[2:13] » Recording in progress.
>> Like the we're welcome everybody to the
[2:17] rescheduled Public Works Committee
meeting for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. Can
[2:23] we have roll call, please?
[2:26] » Alderwoman Tyus.
>> Here.
[2:28] » Alderwoman Gould is absent. Alderman
Meyer.
[2:31] » Here.
>> Alderman Lackmiller.
[2:33] » Here.
>> Move on to approval of the agenda. Is it
[2:37] any objection to approval by
acclamation?
[2:40] Approved by acclamation. Moving on to
citizen comment.
[2:44] Anybody in the audience wish to speak
for 3 minutes? Anyone online, Octavia?
[2:49] » None online.
>> On to reports of committee chairs.
[2:54] All I have is I'd just like to thank
committee members and staff for
[2:58] uh allowing me to reschedule meeting
from Thursday to Tuesday.
[3:02] Thank you very much.
Alderwoman Tyus?
[3:05] » No report.
>> Alderwoman Meyer? Or Alderman Meyer?
[3:09] » No report.
>> Move on to department and commission
[3:13] reports. Uh let's start with Public
Works, Dan.
[3:27] » Uh here's our miscellaneous projects
that we have that we typically bring to
[3:31] you. So, midnight road, uh we did
replace that failed modem on the
[3:35] Brentwood side. I've been checking it
and everything's been working. I don't
[3:39] know if anybody's said anything to you
folks as far as
[3:43] the way it works.
I know I can adjust the uh timing
[3:46] between them. Right now, I believe it's
set at 25 seconds. Um Um, got the
[3:50] passive buttons. Those work. It shows
that they work. So, if you break the
[3:53] radar beam, it'll trigger the lights if
a person breaks that beam.
[3:58] Um, the only thing I haven't checked,
but I had staff check, were the lights
[4:01] on top. You know, if you cover it or it
senses that there's low lighting levels
[4:06] and the button's pressed, it's supposed
to aim the beam across the crosswalk.
[4:09] So, I haven't seen it for myself, but
I'm told it all works.
[4:13] Uh, and then we'll just keep monitoring
that. So, so far everything is working
[4:17] the way it should. Um, and I can
actually track like the peaks, like how
[4:21] many crossings there are per hour. You
know, usually I see because it's good
[4:25] weather or was good weather at times,
like over 100 crossings in an hour. It's
[4:30] usually peaked at like 7:00 to 8:00 a.m.
I guess people are walking to the park.
[4:34] That one's done. Uh, 2832 2828 Manderly,
that's the uh,
[4:39] uh, retaining wall that's between those
two properties. I spoke with the
[4:42] contractor, he's still looking at like
stone-like materials. The resident when
[4:47] I spoke with her, they actually have
stone in the backyard. It's like
[4:51] quarried stone with mortar, which is not
what I'm proposing. Just because that's
[4:56] way more labor and I can't guarantee
it's not going to shift in time versus
[5:01] what we'd propose is the Versa-Lok with
the straps that are keyed in
[5:04] horizontally and compacted. So, it's got
something to pull, you know, if it tries
[5:08] to pull its way over overturn, it's
creating friction and tension with those
[5:12] straps and it should be fine.
So,
[5:16] I don't think that's going to change. I
think it's going to be some sort of
[5:19] machine block with straps. It's going to
have to be just because it's more
[5:23] stable.
Um, so I should be able to figure that
[5:26] one out here shortly.
Uh, Manchester Road, again, it's that
[5:30] cabinet that's
causing the biggest delay. That's over
[5:33] on the north side, just east of Dorothy.
It's a stainless steel cabinet that was
[5:37] damaged. A new one's being rebuilt. It
should
[5:40] show up any day now here in June.
And once we have that, then the
[5:43] contractor will connect it and then
it'll restore, I believe it's like six
[5:47] lights that they'll uh, restore service
to.
[5:51] The four lights that weren't working
over by what used to be Circle K, those
[5:54] are working. So, that's got new conduit
and wiring. Those are done. And there's
[5:58] two more damaged lights. One was near
the former
[6:03] Well, actually not former, it's the
self-storage building, and then the
[6:05] other's near the Rock Church. Those are
here in St. Louis. It's just a matter of
[6:10] the electrician going out and putting
them on the pedestal and getting those
[6:14] working. So, at least we have the
material, and I'm hopeful that those
[6:17] will be done in June as well.
Uh Hampton Creek, the MSD sewer relief
[6:22] project, I did get an update from MSD.
They're actually pushing it back. Before
[6:27] it was August-September of '26, now
they're saying that I should reach out
[6:32] to them at the end of '26, it's looking
like early '27.
[6:35] So, I guess that's good news. It's no
disruption for us for several more
[6:40] months.
Uh the Webster Groves trunk sanitary
[6:43] relief phase two, I know Bates is the
contractor that's supposed to be doing
[6:47] the work. I don't know a start date. I
had reached out to MSD on that. I did
[6:51] not hear back when that start date is,
but I know that one they actually have a
[6:55] contractor ready to do
the work. There's not that much in
[6:59] Brentwood, but I know that it affects
the Arboretum area, like south of the
[7:03] Metro garage.
Uh the temporary parking lot on the
[7:06] north side of Manchester Road, we did
grade portions, you know, north and
[7:11] south um
inlets on that property on the east
[7:16] side. We do need to go back out there
hopefully tomorrow, you know, it's dried
[7:20] out enough, but grade back another 8 to
10 ft, remove that gravel, then that'll
[7:25] be green space, and then it'll be
sodded. Um you know, work the slope
[7:29] there. And then we've got a trial area
picked out. We're going to apply the
[7:33] spray for the dust control. I think
that's probably the better of the two
[7:38] when I really looked at the safety data
sheets. The granular one, when you
[7:43] spread it like fertilizer pellets, then
you wet it, but then you have to
[7:46] mechanically work it back and forth with
a rake and it forms like a gel and then
[7:51] you're not supposed to drive on it for
like 12 hours. versus the spray, you
[7:55] dilute it, mix up your concentration,
spray it.
[7:59] It dries out and if it's as hot as it is
now, I mean, 90° weather or so,
[8:04] I would think it'd dry in an hour or so
and
[8:07] it should hold it. You know, they've got
some YouTube videos I'll probably post
[8:10] those next time, but um it shows them
driving on a gravel road after they put
[8:15] the liquid glue down and it holds the
rock from creating dust clouds.
[8:21] So, that we're going to try out. Um
8837 White, we're actually done with
[8:26] that project. So, we removed the um
sidewalk that was low and that little
[8:30] bit of driveway there, raised that up a
good 6 to 7 in
[8:35] at the low point. And I've been out
there a couple times after it's rained
[8:38] and I do not see water of any
significance. There's a little bit that
[8:42] puddles, but nothing like it was, you
know, several inches. This under a heavy
[8:46] rain event, there's very little like you
would expect and it goes away.
[8:51] So, I know we've spoken with the
property owner, he's pleased with it and
[8:54] he said if he saw anything, you know,
out of the ordinary, he would send us
[8:57] information on it. So,
I would think no news is good news in
[9:01] that instance. And then we just threw in
some pictures of it, you know,
[9:05] uh before or actually a during and then
an after. We have a before, but I just
[9:09] thought it was kind of neat seeing how
much it had changed.
[9:13] And I don't know if you have any
questions on these or anything else
[9:17] public works.
>> Hensley.
[9:23] Thank you, sorry, but um thank you on
McKnight. I have not noticed it flashing
[9:26] randomly uh at times and have not heard
complaints about it, which probably
[9:29] means it's working. Uh and then on the
8837 White, I have not spoken to the
[9:34] actual homeowner there, but to the home
just to the west where a lot of the
[9:37] sidewalk in front of their home was
done. They are very pleased. It does
[9:40] pool a little in the street but not on
the sidewalk.
[9:44] Uh and so I it's a a great um project.
So, thanks to your team for doing that.
[9:48] » Okay. Thanks.
And um last week we had a tree fall on
[9:53] uh Salem
>> Mhm.
[9:55] » and it took out the wiring that uh
you've been you worked over many months
[9:59] to get Amarin there put up for the
street lighting.
[10:03] Um do we need to report that or do you
think they already know?
[10:06] » I'll go ahead and report it. I know they
were out there. They took care of the
[10:10] wiring but took care of it meaning they
just cut it so that Davey could remove
[10:14] or at least cut up a portion of the tree
that was blocking the road.
[10:17] » Yeah.
Cuz it's a line that feeds those three
[10:19] lights and so now they're
>> Yeah, cuz I believe they're in series
[10:22] like connected at the north end and they
work their way south. So, if you break
[10:25] that chain
>> A link.
[10:27] » that one won't work.
[10:30] » Thanks.
>> Okay. Yeah, I I know the light number
[10:33] cuz I've reported it multiple times. So,
I'll just report it back to them and see
[10:36] what they say.
>> Thank you.
[10:38] » Okay. Thanks.
>> And
[10:41] move on to reports from planning and
development
[10:45] department. Whitney.
[10:55] » Good evening. Um for the month of May,
there were 55 new code enforcement cases
[11:01] and 136 inspections.
Building permits received were 210
[11:07] new permits and there were 978
inspections.
[11:12] Um the planning and zoning commission is
scheduled for tomorrow night, Wednesday,
[11:17] um to review continue reviewing the town
home development at 8815 Match.
[11:23] Um
if they make a recommendation that
[11:26] night, which I am anticipating, then it
would be at the July 20th meeting
[11:32] um at the Board of Aldermen.
Business license renewals today at the
[11:37] end of
May, there were 589 active licenses and
[11:42] two were issued that week and 24 waiting
payments
[11:46] with 19
renewing and there has been
[11:50] approximately 59 expired business
license that we are continuing to follow
[11:55] up with.
Contractor registrations are also due at
[11:59] » I have a question. Could you explain
what you mean by following up so that
[12:03] the committee
>> Well, we're having the inspectors go out
[12:05] to verify that businesses are still
open.
[12:08] We have called, we had sent out
postcards, we've
[12:13] emails. So, the next step is we're going
around to check if I there check make
[12:18] sure they're still open and those that
are will follow up with zoning violation
[12:23] letters.
Oh.
[12:25] Contractor
registrations,
[12:28] there were 100 1,684
contractor credentials issued by the end
[12:35] of May
with two issued that last week 15 issued
[12:40] that last week and two in the renewal
process and two waiting payments.
[12:45] Staff attended the Ladue Quarry project
presentation at the Zoning and Planning
[12:52] Commission.
They call it commission at the Ladue
[12:55] City Hall
last Wednesday
[13:00] or not last Wednesday
[13:04] Okay, last Wednesday. Um
at 4:00 p.m. to discuss where they just
[13:10] presented the topic and it's continuing.
We asked that staff be
[13:14] invited to any further meetings. The
project includes 11 single-family homes
[13:20] at the southwest corner of the property
as as from Old Warson Road
[13:26] 31 single-family homes on the north of
Deer Creek, and a mixed-use building
[13:31] with up to 235 apartments and 9,000
square feet of commercial space.
[13:36] Um
this is the property surrounding Rock
[13:39] Hill Quarry's landfill at McKnight and
Old Warson Road.
[13:45] The architectural review board is
scheduled for June 18th to review two
[13:49] projects. We have the return of 2002
South Brentwood Boulevard
[13:54] for the modification to the exterior
building materials.
[13:58] And 70 York Drive, they're doing a 965
square foot room addition that is
[14:04] visible from Middlesex Drive and York
Drive.
[14:08] Um we did issue the RFP for the nuisance
abatement um in May 21st, and so the
[14:14] responses are due on the 15th.
So we'll bring that back to you
[14:19] as well.
We have received two applications for
[14:22] the
July um
[14:25] planning and zoning commission so far.
The June um Board of Adjustment was
[14:30] canceled due to incomplete applications
and a lack of quorum. So they are one I
[14:36] know is working towards revising their
application for the July
[14:41] 25th meeting.
Or 23rd, I think.
[14:46] So
we will
[14:48] let you know when that's completed and
notices will be sent out for those.
[14:54] » It is
Any questions for Whitney?
[14:57] All right, thank you, Whitney.
[15:01] Move on to Parks and
Recreation, Eric.
[15:11] » Uh good evening. Just a couple things uh
tonight. The first is uh
[15:15] that staff that with the business
manager of the Movement Center uh in
[15:19] Hanley Industrial Court.
Uh they had they have a need to have
[15:23] maybe utilize some parking. They their
parking lot's not big enough for their
[15:27] staff. So, they're wondering if they
could
[15:30] have up to five parking spaces in the
Hanley Park parking lot. Uh it's
[15:36] interesting time for this mainly because
we're going to be going into
[15:39] construction of that parking lot and the
and the the pavilion here and hopefully
[15:45] by the end of the year and then we can
maybe work out a parking arrangement
[15:49] with them so that our users can use
their parking lot during construction.
[15:53] And then once construction's over, we
can kind of revisit if we feel like it's
[15:56] still needed.
Uh so, if the committee is open to it,
[16:01] what I would do is I'd start working on
a MOU
[16:05] and would bring it back to this
committee for review and discussion.
[16:11] » Um
I guess a show of our
[16:14] I guess voice. All in favor of letting
Eric explore the MOU, say I.
[16:20] » I.
>> I.
[16:21] » Great. Thank you.
Uh the other thing is
[16:26] I don't know if you know our marketing
person Sophie. She came
[16:29] bounding in my office one day all
excited cuz she saw something about Bird
[16:32] City, Missouri and she really she's the
one who's taking all our photos for
[16:37] social media. If you notice, she loves
birds.
[16:40] And so, she really thinks this is a
wonderful opportunity for the city.
[16:45] As we mentioned, it's part of the Bird
City network. It's really a program that
[16:49] really wants cities to kind of improve
habitats
[16:53] sustainable promote sustainability and
conservation things like that. In
[16:57] looking at the application, we've
already done most of that
[17:01] primarily the park and park and other
things we're doing throughout the city
[17:05] even going back a couple years when we
changed the light levels reduced the
[17:10] Kelvins on the light levels things like
that have already put us in position
[17:13] where we're probably uh get this very
easily. It's a free program.
[17:18] Uh it's something that we think would be
kind of a nice feather in the cap of the
[17:22] city.
Uh pardon the pun. And uh right now
[17:26] there's only one bird sanctuary in city
St. Louis. So, uh we'd like to
[17:31] we're moving forward to try to do that.
And then and uh we'll uh be excited when
[17:35] we can get that moving. So.
Next is the Brentwood Days theme. Uh we
[17:40] could talk to last month or the month
before about possible themes for for
[17:44] Brentwood Days and and also talking
about what we could do for uh America's
[17:48] 250th uh celebration. And we talked
about it in our Brentwood Days committee
[17:52] and we really thought doing something
for America 250 in September uh would be
[17:57] a little bit late spending most of this
stuff is happening in June and July. So,
[18:02] uh it was our recommendation not to do
that. And in in talking with staff and
[18:06] the committee uh that we talked about
the possibility of the fact that it is
[18:11] the 100th the centennial of Route 66.
And Route 66 went through the city of
[18:15] Brentwood uh in 1926 when it first
opened uh until it re-routed in 1932 and
[18:21] and bypassed Brentwood. But, uh
interestingly enough, the only surviving
[18:26] landmark from that period is Carl's
Drive-In. And so, we thought it'd be
[18:29] kind of fun to kind of re-route the
parade this year, go right by Carl's
[18:32] Drive-In, get them to kind of be a part
of the this parade aspect of it. And
[18:37] we're getting kind of excited about
that. So, uh it'd be our recommendation
[18:40] to move forward with this Route 66 uh
theme for this year's Brentwood Days.
[18:46] » Yes or no from us?
>> Yeah, as long as you guys are okay with
[18:48] it.
>> We're all in favor of Eric's
[18:52] proposal.
>> Great.
[18:54] » Sounds creative. Thank you.
>> Very good.
[18:56] » Well, that came from uh Jesse, our he's
my historian in in my department. He's
[19:00] like, you know, it's the centennial. And
And he's the one who actually did the
[19:03] research on on Carl's. So,
uh last is Urban Chestnut. Uh this is
[19:07] something again I'm very excited about.
Um
[19:11] and something we've talked about in the
past of trying to see if there's a a
[19:14] partnership we could have in the in this
in the park. One to activate the park,
[19:19] two to maybe help bring in more people,
and three
[19:22] uh something that might be mutually
beneficial for both uh the vendor and
[19:26] the city. And so uh after the Wine
Whiskey Walk, Urban Chestnut actually
[19:31] contacted us to say, "Hey, we're really
interested in doing something with the
[19:35] city of Brentwood, and especially in
Brentwood Park." And we talked briefly
[19:38] about the RFP and and how we put that
out, and they're not quite to that part,
[19:43] but they want to kind of look at maybe a
proof of concept. And so they have kind
[19:47] of a mobile they call a beer garden.
It's basically a mobile tap, uh four or
[19:51] five taps on it. And and they thought
about the idea of maybe kind of doing
[19:55] that proof of concept uh in the summer
this time uh this year. And so we're we
[20:00] talked
Tuesday, Monday.
[20:02] Today's Tuesday, Monday. Uh and they're
looking maybe to do Wednesdays in July.
[20:07] It is we looked at Placer, it is one of
our lowest times for for people, and
[20:12] they thought that'd be interesting case
study see, "Hey, we know what the what
[20:16] the uh attendance is on a Wednesday.
Let's see if it builds up for you guys
[20:20] based on this."
Uh and we talked about a lot of things
[20:23] and and how this could lead to hopefully
maybe that larger partnership that we
[20:26] talked about in the RFP. Uh but first
for this year, we talked about what what
[20:30] would look like, and it would be they
they agreed to uh pay that $100 fee
[20:36] that's outlined in our food truck
policy. So they basically rent a truck
[20:39] food truck space for the night.
Uh and in addition, they they what
[20:43] they'd have is a program where they kind
of introduce a beer draft or a tap
[20:49] handle. So they actually take one of
their current beers, and they basically
[20:52] call it the Brentwood Park beer.
And they're willing to donate 10% of the
[20:56] proceeds of every beer poured in
Brentwood Park to the Brentwood Park um
[21:00] parks maintenance and liquidity fund.
And so we see that as a benefit as well
[21:05] that we can build up that fund that
we're already building, but it's a way
[21:08] to build that up even more. So, uh
this is something we're real excited
[21:12] about to see what this would be. Uh they
talked about that for that the month
[21:17] they they want to go into August, too,
but we're going to start with July. We
[21:19] need to talk about it tonight to make
sure it's on the board agenda for their
[21:22] special use permit. Uh but they're
talking about maybe one night they just
[21:25] come out and and see what happens.
Another night they might do bingo or
[21:29] they might do trivia. And then we talked
about maybe one night we do something
[21:33] that also gets the kids involved. So,
face painter, balloon artist, something
[21:36] like that, something small that we can
add to it. And so,
[21:39] a way again, it's another way to kind of
activate the park. It's a way to kind of
[21:43] see if this partnership, uh this type of
arrangement would be something that
[21:47] would be beneficial for the city.
And uh so, we'd like to move forward
[21:51] with that. And with your guys's
approval, we'll then
[21:54] bring the special use permit to the
board meeting on Monday.
[22:01] » Great. No, I think it's great. Really
fun. Now, if maybe we have our public
[22:04] works meeting July on a Wednesday and
head over to the
[22:09] head over to the park afterwards.
>> Yeah, short agenda, I'm sure.
[22:15] Well, I think you
we're all in favor of it, Eric. So, uh I
[22:19] just have one question. Who promotes it?
Do they or
[22:22] » So, they they will will kind of will
co-promote. Uh they'll put some stuff on
[22:26] their social media. We'll we'll share
it. Vice versa, we'll put some stuff on
[22:30] our social media, they'll share it. They
have 147,000
[22:34] members on their social media. So, they
they have a broad reach already. And so,
[22:39] we have
I think we have close to 40 now. So,
[22:42] we'll kind of hopefully piggyback on
each other and and be able to kind of
[22:46] promote these things.
[22:52] » We're moving to sustainability.
>> No report this month. Uh sustainability
[22:55] meeting was canceled cuz of Memorial
Day. We'll be picking back up again in
[22:58] June.
[23:01] » Under consent agenda, once again, could
we approve the consent agenda by
[23:05] acclamation?
Okay, it will be approved by
[23:08] acclamation.
Moving on to old business, we have
[23:13] sustainability dashboard.
This is you again, Eric?
[23:17] » It is.
Uh we've talked about this a few months
[23:20] now, and so I you know, I don't think I
have a whole lot more to add. Um I
[23:24] apologize that we
how it kind of was late getting into the
[23:29] packet last month. So,
uh nothing more to add than what we had
[23:32] last month beyond the fact that it's
still something sustainability
[23:34] commission is very interested in and
think it is uh
[23:39] would be beneficial for the city and a
good use of the sustainability funds
[23:43] that are budgeted each year for the
committee.
[23:47] » Um I just have a quick question. I
So, how would this be launched? What
[23:52] would it look like if somebody went to
our website?
[23:54] » So, we would basically have a um
link on our sustainability page that
[23:59] would take you to the dashboard page.
And with that, we can have everything in
[24:03] there.
Uh in talking with them, there is a way
[24:06] to kind of create look a lot like our
um
[24:10] if you think about the Brentwood bound
page on the city's website, how you kind
[24:13] of clicked on the Brentwood bound page
and it took you to something else that
[24:16] looked
very much like our website. It'd be very
[24:19] much like that. Almost like parks and
recreation have the same thing. So, it'd
[24:22] be kind of a main link that takes you
there.
[24:26] » They work specifically with someone
park staff to get
[24:29] » They'd be uh primarily working with uh
Michelle and myself. Michelle because
[24:33] she has all the uh
all the social media and and does all
[24:38] the website work. And obviously, she and
I are the liaisons for sustainability,
[24:43] so we partner on a lot of that stuff.
>> I went to Columbia's and
[24:47] it was kind of confusing
because if you
[24:50] went under government sustainability,
you got one page, and then you went
[24:53] under uh I think residents and
sustainability, you got it something
[24:57] completely different.
>> And And tell you exactly why Columbia
[25:02] did that, but they basically
KLA has told us that it we can make it
[25:07] mirror what our website looks like, and
so it almost be kind of the fact that
[25:11] wherever where you go, it would take you
to that main page. They they talked
[25:15] about if depending on how much we want
to put on to the dashboard is that you
[25:19] can almost put all of your
sustainability items with on the website
[25:22] that we currently have
on that dashboard page, so everything
[25:25] for sustainability kind of lives right
there. So, you don't have to go to any
[25:29] other places.
>> And I know the Sustainability Commission
[25:32] has $20,000 to work with. So, in the
first year it looks like it comes out of
[25:36] there, and then it becomes a uh
comes out of the budget of IT.
[25:41] » It In something like that, we would
normally place it in the IT budget, yes.
[25:45] Um and so, we'd obviously be working
with IT for that. Um if it's uh
[25:51] So, yes, that's where it would come
>> Why would it not continue to come out of
[25:54] the 20?
>> Yeah, we can.
[25:57] » If it's being allocated, it should come
out of the 20.
[25:59] » Sure. That's That's fine. I just with
the IT aspect of it, uh it's my mistake.
[26:04] I apologize.
[26:07] » Well,
with my ways and means hat on, I would
[26:10] say let's leave it with sustainability
because that's why I every year we get
[26:14] to the IT stuff, and I'm like, "There's
all this stuff that everyone says we
[26:17] need, but what is it?" So,
>> I would I really support this, but I
[26:22] think we ought to keep the the funds
tied to sustainability so that we know
[26:27] where
>> That makes a lot of sense.
[26:28] » comes from and where it's going. Um so,
that's my two cents. But, um I'll make a
[26:32] motion to um approve uh
hiring KLA uh to create a sustainability
[26:39] dashboard um
for the city of Brentwood.
[26:43] » I second it.
>> Paula?
[26:48] » Paula, I have a question on this. Um
does this need to go to the board since
[26:53] it's
money and a contract or
[26:57] can we just direct Eric to do this like
>> I think we can There are two ways to do
[27:03] it. Um
We could report it under city
[27:07] administrator report or we could put it
as a consent item. Either one works.
[27:12] » But it does need to go to the board.
>> I I would
[27:17] Does there prefer I mean under
>> Consent.
[27:20] » Under the consent agenda on the next
Board of Aldermen meeting and we put all
[27:23] of our other contracts.
>> Okay. So go to the July meeting.
[27:26] » Okay.
>> Probably won't be ready for the June
[27:28] meeting.
>> Any other questions before we vote?
[27:32] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[27:34] » I.
>> Anyone opposed?
[27:36] All right, Eric. Much.
>> So that I'm clear, that was seconded by
[27:40] Meyer.
>> Yes.
[27:41] » Okay.
>> Uh looks like we got Dan, we got Douglas
[27:47] Court and Mary Court solar lighting.
[27:58] » Yeah, this is a carryover from before I
was
[28:02] researching the different types of
lights and stuff. Um the ones that we
[28:06] have right now First Light Technologies
was the one that did like Lavern Court.
[28:10] So that's more of a rectangular box
shape that's mounted to a squarish post.
[28:16] Uh the ones in York Village were Fond
Roche lighting. Those are no longer
[28:19] made. I did confirm that. So they have a
a collector on the post. So it collects
[28:26] vertically instead of on the top. The
ones I had originally submitted with the
[28:29] two saw uh last time and this time
around has a squarish collector on top.
[28:35] It's more of a modern look.
I did actually find one. I'll have to
[28:40] put together a table just so that I can
keep these all straight, but I do have a
[28:45] post top. I didn't include it in here
since I just found it in the last day or
[28:49] so.
Um
[28:51] these I can either get them like a
smoked
[28:54] um finish, so it kind of diffuses the
light, or you can do clear panels, or
[28:59] you can do a combination of one side
with diffused and the other clear.
[29:03] Uh if you're worried about light
scattering around, these do actually
[29:06] meet the criteria that we require for
lights, so I can get them in 2700K for
[29:11] the color temperature. You can do 3000,
you can do 4000, but definitely 2700.
[29:17] What I don't know, which I couldn't
figure out from just doing the research,
[29:20] was the post looks like it's only a 3-in
steel post, so it's fairly slender. Um
[29:26] it doesn't require a whole lot of post
to support the weight of the post top.
[29:30] The post top's only 9 kilos, which is
roughly 20 lb. Um
[29:35] but they are painted. You can get them
in black, you can get them in bronze
[29:38] finish. I just thought these look more
like what you were looking for. And if
[29:43] the post is only a 3-in and it grabs on
there, then I can cut that in about the
[29:48] length of what we would usually supply,
which is probably 10 or 12 ft. Um so
[29:53] I'll reach out to the sales people to
see how much these are and I can put it
[29:56] together and either bring it back or put
in a weekly report or both, but I did
[30:01] find something that has hope that it
would kind of match what we were talking
[30:06] about at the last meeting.
I don't know why they discontinued it,
[30:09] but Finero said they don't do that
anymore. They do the modern one and I
[30:13] said, "Well, that's not what I need. I
need something more like this." This is
[30:17] a different company, so I mean we might
just buy one to try it out and if it
[30:22] works, great. We could continue forward
and put the other one in or
[30:26] you know, if they don't work out, we
could put them somewhere on city
[30:29] property. I'm sure that they would do
just fine, you know, by a building. What
[30:34] I don't know is like the lumens in that
is great, but what I don't know is what
[30:37] you really see when you're looking at it
from the street. How well does it light?
[30:42] It does have profiles like the other
lights, so it'll show if it's more
[30:45] circular, if it's more oblong. So, I
know you can pick different lighting
[30:48] patterns depending on what the street's
like.
[30:51] So.
>> I would probably since all the women go
[30:54] to see in here and it's her ward like to
continue this at our next meeting with
[31:00] the information you just found. I think
I really appreciate the deep dive you've
[31:04] taken in trying to find one of these
things.
[31:06] » It's weird like everybody is a more
modern. One of them looked like a golf
[31:09] putter, so it was like turned over and
the light was underneath. I'm like
[31:12] that's I don't think that's going to
work. But it was black. It was like
[31:16] similar to this, but the top's
completely different.
[31:19] » Yeah, let's carry it over for the next
meeting and uh
[31:23] put that information together and we'll
do it in July.
[31:25] » Okay.
All right, we'll bring it back.
[31:27] » Thanks, Dan.
>> Yep.
[31:28] » Move on to new business.
Uh looks like we've got
[31:32] an RFQ for professional design.
Is that you, Eric, or Dan?
[31:37] » Uh we did it together, so I did most of
it, but it was a team effort, so we
[31:43] received 11 proposals as it states here
in the memo.
[31:46] Um on May 14th
uh we had four people scoring them
[31:51] including myself and Eric and two
others. Uh we reduced that group of 11
[31:56] down to three and we brought those three
in, which would be H Design Group, Arch
[32:00] Images, and KAI ADiNi for interviews. Uh
we did the interviews on May 27th, so
[32:05] just recently, and of those three we
narrowed it down to two. Of the two, it
[32:11] would uh H Design Group and KAI ADiNi.
And we did a comparison table uh between
[32:17] the two of these to see how they fared.
So, that's in the memo. Um
[32:22] what it boiled down to was H Design
provided more complete examples of what
[32:27] they did recently and in um
the past as far as uh
[32:32] public works facilities. They did have
complete references including the uh
[32:36] costs. For some reason, the Kiadini, if
you look at it, um I know it was
[32:41] attached, but the Kiadini one was
missing the construction cost for two
[32:45] projects. They listed six, but of the
six, four of them there's no references.
[32:50] I did track down Berkeley. Uh that was
provided, and they gave good
[32:55] recommendation for Kiadini, so that was
good. Um I did talk to Kirkwood, even
[33:00] though it was left blank. I knew the
person over there.
[33:03] They said that the study they did with
Kiadini, they liked, but then when they
[33:07] pushed forward into design and
construction, they actually switched
[33:12] horses and went with Arch Images. So,
the Kirkwood facility will be completed
[33:17] sometime here in 2026, but it's with a
different firm.
[33:20] Um
Kiadini, you know, had really good
[33:22] qualifications. They did the report for
us, if you recall, uh through Navigate.
[33:28] They are based in Brentwood. They have
Horner & Shifrin as their new additional
[33:32] partner on their design team.
But when we came down to the key
[33:37] rationale that I listed here, you know,
H Design had more relevant and recent
[33:41] public works experience, stronger more
complete references. Uh they do have
[33:46] really good feedback from their
municipal clients. That I did check.
[33:50] And just a more detailed explanation on
their program, their planning.
[33:55] Uh they would do design charrettes for a
two or three-day process to really drill
[33:59] down and figure out how equipment fits
in the building, future growth, things
[34:03] of that nature. So,
you know, the recommendation that we had
[34:06] as a group was that H Design would be
selected for professional design
[34:10] services for the maintenance facility.
Um
[34:15] I don't know if there's any questions.
[34:20] » Need a recommendation to forward on to
the full board, uh selecting H Design
[34:24] Group for the professional design
services
[34:30] » I'll make that motion.
>> I'll second the motion.
[34:34] » Uh
all in favor say I.
[34:38] Anyone opposed?
Dan.
[34:41] » Okay.
>> Move on to Let's Sing Her Paving and
[34:44] Striping.
>> I think Alderwoman Tyson asked this this
[34:48] in the past about you know, the the
striping is faded. I will agree with
[34:52] that. Uh it was done probably in 2016
when the STP project was done on the
[34:58] north side like the entire length. Um
we've done a few spot areas. Typically,
[35:03] we just do the crosswalks and the stop
bars, but the longitudinal lines, you
[35:08] know, the ones that run parallel, the
center line, and the outer shoulder
[35:11] ones, we don't have equipment that can
do that great a distance. We did reach
[35:15] out to McConnell since we use them and
they are part of a consortium. So, they
[35:20] gave us a price broken down by the three
different jurisdictions. So, most of it
[35:26] is under Brentwood.
As you go closer to Brentwood Boulevard,
[35:30] it switches over to county ownership
like the turn arrows and stuff like
[35:33] that. And then we've got Rock Hill where
you get to Bremerton and from Bremerton
[35:38] to McKnight, the southern portion is
theirs and northern half is ours. So,
[35:42] that's the convoluted part there.
Um our total would be $5,450
[35:49] and that would take it from McKnight all
the way to Brentwood Boulevard, just our
[35:54] portion. The county we reached out to
them, they said that they would just do
[35:57] it themselves. So, in a few weeks
they'll paint there in by Brentwood
[36:01] Boulevard, so that'll be brightened up.
Rock Hill, we reached out to them, we
[36:04] have not heard back from them.
What I'd like if they agreed to was, you
[36:08] know, we could do it and they would just
reimburse the $2,010.
[36:13] If they don't agree, then I guess we
just do our portion. It'll look a little
[36:19] I don't know what the proper terminology
would be, but it won't look fantastic as
[36:23] you go Brentwood to McKnight because we
would only do one yellow bar the whole
[36:29] distance. There's on the other half
would be the faded one and then their
[36:33] white shoulder would be whatever it is.
So it'll, you know, there could be
[36:37] complaints because well, why did you not
do the whole thing?
[36:41] I would prefer that they just piggyback
on to our contract and just do it, but
[36:45] if they don't, I don't think we want to
spend our money to do their piece.
[36:50] Um, my recommendation be we definitely
do ours if they agree to do theirs with
[36:54] ours, there could be cost savings.
Otherwise, they just going to have to do
[36:58] it themselves.
[37:02] » Um, this has been a repeated um
um
[37:06] complaint, well, complaint is a strong
word from this particular resident, but
[37:09] it's she's brought it up to me for
several years now, so
[37:12] uh and and as soon as she said it, I
started looking. I'm like, oh, this
[37:15] really looks terrible. You can barely
see the yellow line. It is so um I do
[37:19] think we should move forward and
hopefully we can convince Rock Hill to
[37:22] participate as well.
>> Um
[37:27] I don't see I can you
uh road requirements, can you do just
[37:32] one yellow line when it needs to be a
double? I mean
[37:35] » I was going to say the paint folks can
do do one cuz that's what we did with
[37:39] McKnight when it was resurfaced. They
were able to save the side that was
[37:42] LaDue's of the double yellow
and they left that and they did a
[37:46] perfect seam and then, you know, wait a
week or so for it to dry, then they did
[37:51] the bright yellow. They I know LaDue
actually we partnered together. So
[37:55] whenever that road gets striped, they
tell me typically what it costs
[38:00] and we just reimburse them. It's just a
simple agreement.
[38:04] Now, I'm hoping this is the same. It's
like if you wanted to, you know, you
[38:07] could do just the yellow. Maybe that's
half that, maybe it's a thousand, but I
[38:10] don't really want to spend a thousand
dollars of Brentwood money to do
[38:14] somebody else's.
[38:19] » Yeah.
>> All done at one time, right?
[38:23] » Yeah, cuz your other option would be is
you could truncate it at Bremerton, just
[38:27] do within our city limits, and then both
of them, and then going from Bremerton
[38:31] west, nothing would be done for the
double yellow to make it consistent.
[38:38] » Um is it a priority that it be done this
fiscal year?
[38:42] Cuz we're we're dealing with the city
that probably
[38:47] may not have the means to
all of a sudden this ranks as priority
[38:52] unless there's public safety, a
compelling public safety
[38:57] reason that that makes them rethink it
and make it a priority. So,
[39:03] I think it's good to ask
City of Rock Hill to see if they could
[39:07] participate on what the cost would be.
And that pop- possibly Dan would oversee
[39:12] it so that all they need to do is
contribute. But if they could wait till
[39:17] Give them more than one option for your
consideration.
[39:20] » Well, and then I I guess
you um I think you sort of said like
[39:23] maybe just ask if you could just see
from the contractor if it would be about
[39:29] half that to just do the yellow line cuz
maybe the white line on the Rock Hill
[39:32] side, that's less important to do, but
to have
[39:36] uh half a yellow line from Bremerton to
McKnight just
[39:41] doesn't seem to make sense, but maybe
they maybe if it is only a thousand
[39:44] dollars, then that might be uh more
agreeable to Rock Hill either this
[39:48] fiscal year or next.
>> Yeah, I'll ask him. I'll have him
[39:51] subdivide that. It's like what's the
white, what's the yellow for just that
[39:54] segment, and then maybe it is more
palatable to do just a thousand or
[39:57] whatever it is.
>> And do we have time until the say the
[40:00] July meeting to
>> Oh, we do. Yeah, there's no rush cuz he
[40:03] said that, you know, the weather's
perfect for doing this. You know, we've
[40:06] got still several more months to get
this done. And it won't take them long.
[40:10] It'll just be like, you know, the state
and the county the way they paint it's
[40:13] with a truck, and
it makes the paint perfectly, you know,
[40:17] the the correct width and adds their
little reflectorized beads and
[40:21] » Well, um
And the bid will still be good but
[40:25] 30 days?
>> We'll call and see if it needs to be
[40:27] refreshed, but I can't see it varying a
huge amount, you know, it's through a
[40:31] consortium. So, I mean, the price is
>> But I think like Nancy said, given Rock
[40:34] Hill the option of
>> Mhm.
[40:36] » this level or this level maybe they'll
go lower level and we can just get it
[40:41] done.
Cuz you would just we would do the
[40:44] county's portion too and they're pretty
open to just paying bills when they get
[40:47] them.
>> The county's just going to do theirs at
[40:49] their cost if the 660 goes away that was
in the breakdown.
[40:53] Uh they have their own crews. They have
they just said we'll just take care of
[40:57] it. Like just don't worry about ours,
just do yours. So, that made it easy.
[41:02] So, really it's just coordination with
Rock Hill, you know, if they can do a
[41:06] portion, great. If they say no, then we
need to figure out where to create a
[41:10] » They'll do that and maybe take it up in
July.
[41:12] » Okay.
>> then.
[41:14] » Will do.
>> All right, that's it for new business.
[41:19] We'll move into citizen comment.
There's nobody here. Anybody online?
[41:25] All right,
without any other business, we'll
[41:28] adjourn.
Thank you, guys.
[41:30] » Thank you.