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>>> board of county commissioners acts

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as a quasi-judicial body when it hears requests

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for rezoning and conditional

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use permits. Applicants must provide competent,

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substantial

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evidence establishing facts, or expert witness

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opinion testimony showing that the

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request meets the zoning

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code and comprehensive plan criteria. Opponents

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must also testify as to facts. The

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board must

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then decide whether the evidence demonstrates

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consistency and compatibility with

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the comprehensive plan and the existing

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rules in the zoning ordinance, property

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adjacent to the

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property to be rezoned, and the actual

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development of the surrounding area. The

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board

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cannot consider speculation, non-expert

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opinion testimony, or poll the

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audience by asking those in favor

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or opposed to stand

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up or raise their hands. If a commissioner

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has had communications regarding a rezoning

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or conditional use permit

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request before the board, the commissioner must

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disclose the subject of the communication and

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the

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identity of the person, group, or

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entity with

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whom the communication took place

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before the board takes action on the request. Like

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wise if the commissioner has made

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a site visit, inspection, or investigation, the

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commissioner must disclose that fact

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before

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the board takes action on the request. Each

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applicant is

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allowed a total of 15 minutes to present their

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request unless

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time is extended by the majority

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vote of the board. The applicant may

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reserve any portion of

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15 minutes for rebus tat. Speakers

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may not pass their time to someone

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else

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in order to give that person more time to speak.

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>> good evening

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and welcome to the zoning meeting

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on july 11, 2024. I'd like to call

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the

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meeting to order. I'd like to

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start with a moment of

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silence. If we could, I'm not sure

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if all of you know, but former commissioner

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nancy higgs has passed away. I'd like

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you

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to keep that in mind for her family. Let's

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have

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a moment of silence.

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okay, thank you so much. Let's stand for the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america

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and to the republic for which it stands

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one nation

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under god indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all.

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okay, thank

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you so very much. I'm not sure, we've

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got a couple of different announcements

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we need to make on some of the agenda items. But

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before we get started, we had to cut

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our meeting short the other night,

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tuesday night,

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and I had something that I needed

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to get

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done as a request from the board,

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and that was I'm traveling to washington,

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d.c. With a group of 10 to 12 people on

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brightline station, and I need the

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permission

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of the board to travel. Would somebody

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so moved.

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>> a motion by

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commissioner pritchett. Second by

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commissioner

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tobia. Any discussion? All in favor

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signify by saying aye?

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aye.

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>> all opposed nay? Thank you very much.

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let's go right into the

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public comments, and we will go to

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h1, and

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jeff, go ahead,

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man.

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thank you, suzanne

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cook, request for

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a permit. Tax account number

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2431745 located in district two. Mr. Chair,

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I wanted to point out during

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the planning and zoning board

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meeting, june 10, I mistakenly quoted

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the code

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of saying that the cup runs

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with the ownership,

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however, that's incorrect. It runs

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with the land. There is

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criteria for a guesthouse and one

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of that criteria

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the guesthouse cannot

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be rented out or used for short-term rental.

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ms cook here? Suzanne, please.

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>> I'm suzanne

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cook. The main problem was that we had just

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few square feet short of an

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acre that was necessary. I do understand

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that I can't rent it out, and

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I have mentioned that casually to

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the fact that the economy is bad, and

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they asked

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me had I changed my mind, and I said

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certainly. I said

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I'll just sell the property if

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can't pay the bills. That doesn't

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bother me.

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so the bottom line, that's it.

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okay, thank you

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so much. Commissioner goodson,

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do you have any comments?

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>> the only

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comment I

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would have. As long as she understands

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all the conditions, I

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have no problems with it. And you

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understand all the conditions?

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>> yes, yes, sir.

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you give us a motion, commissioner?

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yes, I

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would like for the approval

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and acceptance of this motion

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or this h1, yeah, h1, please.

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a second?

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>> second. >> any

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discussion? All in favor?

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all opposed,

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nay? The motion carries. Thank you

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so very much.

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>> thank you.

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>> now jeff --

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>> mr. Chair, I think

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maybe commissioner goodson, do

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you want to say something on h2 before

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we start?

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>> on h2, I'd like to make a motion

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to continue

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the public hearing on this until november 7,

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giving the

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developer a chance to go back to the

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residence and see if he could

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come to a resolution of some sort

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that you're

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accepting with. I understand you're

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saying no, but

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them 120 days. That's the motion.

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there a second to that?

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>> jeff, do

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to say something first?

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on, please. Just hold on.

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was there a second? Hearing no

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second to the motion, it fails. Let's

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in had to jeff, please.

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thank you, mr. Chair. Item h2 is frank

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mastroianni, requests

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a change of

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zoning classification from

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and ru-2-10 to pud. Application numbers

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23pud00001, tax account number

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is 2600118. Located

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in district two.

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>> yes, ma'am, go

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ahead.

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>> we already

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turned in all of our public records

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that I

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heard, except I did get

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a phone call today from miss debbie mayfield, mentioning

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the time limit that she had

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a concern being 120 days. I have to

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go ahead

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and let everyone know I heard

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from ms

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mayfield.

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>> mr. Chair,

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also regarding application

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23pud00001 on july 11, the zoning

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--I spoke with mr. Michael via phone

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today, did not have time

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to put it in the call. It lasted approximately

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five minutes, during which we discussed

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his opposition to the item. Again,

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I did not have time to submit

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that since it happened today.

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got a question.

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give people an opportunity to go back,

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they're very aware of

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the fact that they will probably

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not get what they requested. But we can't

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even allow them to have

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open discussions again to see if they

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can come to some resolution?

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please do not do this tonight, okay. I

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know

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everybody is uptight and concerned,

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so we're going to get there this

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and do it in an adult fashion, and

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no talking from the audience. I would

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very much appreciate that. Thank you so very much.

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commissioner,

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if you'd like to try your motion one

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more time, try your motion one more time.

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would like to try the motion again. To

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give

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them the opportunity to go back and

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work with these people and

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come back. They're going to come through the

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same process. They're going to

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have to come back to planning and

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zoning with a new

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idea if it

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is acceptable to the people.

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>> is there

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a second?

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>> just a quick question. I don't think that

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motion, if we table it until that

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had date, I don't think that motion

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proceeds going

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back to planning and zoning. There

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is no necessity to go back to

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planning and zoning.

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>> wouldn't they

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go back? I'm

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sorry, mr. Chairman?

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they come

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up with a different zoning criteria

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for a number

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of units, would they not have to go back

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approval to zoning for that? I don't

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know, you tell me.

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>> mr. Chair? >> yes, sir, go

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>> if I was looking at this,

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make that extremely

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clear in the motion, and

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august 14 is the zoning meeting before

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that

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with a deadline of august 2 of submittal

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to make that november 7 date

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just for clarity sake. But you know,

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it's probably better

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for staff if that was actually put

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into the motion. I'm not

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saying I'm willing

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to go there. I'm just saying that

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I certainly wouldn't vote for

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it to come back here without having

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to

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go to planning and zoning again.

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>>

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you would not?

305
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>> I

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would not.

307
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>> yeah, I agree. I would not either.

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>> there is a motion on the floor. Is

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there a second? Commissioner

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pritchett, will you take the floor,

311
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please?

312
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>> yes, sir. >>

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I'm

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going

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to second your motion. Discussion. So

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commissioner pritchett, may I have the floor, please?

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I intend

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to hear everybody tonight that's here. So

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you're not

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going to come in here. It's not fair

321
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for

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you to come out here in vain. But I'd

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like

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to get this motion passed, and then

325
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we've got a couple

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of very quick zoning items that can

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be done,

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and we can spend whatever time is necessary, so

329
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that you can pour your heart

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out in regards to your request.

331
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I don't know whether this will

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pass or not.

333
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>> can I ask a

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question just for clarification here? Are

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the applicants

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here tonight?

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>> oh yeah, they're

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here, I believe.

339
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>>

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is michael the applicant?

341
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>> no, no.

342
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mr. Chair?

343
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>> yes? >> for the audience

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who

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showed up for this item, first of all thank

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you for showing up. Second

347
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is of all, I greatly apologize to

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you

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guys. You got a notice that it would happen

350
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today, and you know, there was tabling,

351
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so you took time

352
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out of your busy schedule. I completely get that.

353
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and

354
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I really appreciate you guys participating. Here

355
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is where we

356
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are, and I think staff could probably explain

357
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this a

358
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little bit better. We have a couple

359
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of options today. We

360
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can outright deny this. But here is

361
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the problem

362
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with outright denying so you understand. That

363
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might be a temporary victory, but

364
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we

365
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can turn to staff, but code would

366
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allow them to file the

367
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exact

368
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same

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thing six months from now.

370
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I

371
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don't know what the best one is, but

372
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understand

373
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no matter what decision we make today, unless

374
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it's

375
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an outright thumbs up, and I'll tell

376
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you right now, there's no way

377
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in god's green earth that I'll do

378
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an outright thumbs up,

379
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which I shouldn't say before the applicant

380
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speaks. But my

381
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understanding they weren't coming here. That's

382
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the box we're in. If I'm going

383
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to support this to be very clear,

384
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it needs to go, in

385
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my opinion, through planning and zoning

386
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again

387
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if there are substantial changes to

388
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give

389
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you guys

390
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an extra opportunity to engage

391
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there and then engage as you have

392
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with us

393
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after that planning and zoning. That's

394
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the wonderful thing that we get to

395
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hear

396
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what they have to say and then we

397
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get

398
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to hear what the neighbors have to

399
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hear. So keep that in

400
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mind. Those are our two options that we

401
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who have to

402
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the best of my knowledge.

403
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>> can I

404
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ask

405
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one more question to his point? If

406
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I understand

407
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that we're potentially considering

408
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a four-month

409
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delay or a six-month delay

410
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tonight they can

411
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come back in six

412
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months? Jeffrey, is that correct?

413
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>>

414
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so

415
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if the application is denied, we have

416
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a

417
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provision in our code

418
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that requires a six-month time

419
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frame before they submit another

420
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application of similar requests.

421
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>>

422
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okay. A motion tonight, I'm

423
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sorry. A motion tonight to delay

424
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this for 120 days and then they

425
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could start the process all over again six

426
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months

427
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from now. Does that seem like what

428
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we're down to?

429
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>>

430
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yes, sir.

431
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>> okay, commissioner pritchett, may

432
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I have the

433
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,320
floor, please?

434
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,320
>> the reason

435
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I'm

436
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520
doing this is because there

437
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was -- [ inaudible ] the

438
00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,520
motion or the e-mail was sent

439
00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,520
out to people at indian river isles

440
00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520
in the area saying this

441
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was going to be continued. So I

442
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,520
don't believe it's

443
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fair not to

444
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,000
have the full contingent. So I'm not

445
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sure

446
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,520
whether 120-day continuation is the

447
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,520
best way to go or a table

448
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,520
is the best way to go

449
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,520
because I don't feel comfortable

450
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with them not having the number of people here.

451
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[ technical difficulties. Meeting will

452
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resume shortly ]

453
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>> the

454
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local planning and zoning board to

455
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start that process over again.

456
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>> yes,

457
00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,800
sir, application would be considered

458
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new and it would come back through.

459
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[ audio technical difficulties ]

460
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>>

461
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maybe they can't. So if they don't,

462
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then

463
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they can refile six months. That's

464
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all I'm trying to do. Trying

465
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to get

466
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somebody to work together.

467
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,520
>> commissioner? >>

468
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commissioner goodson, would you consider

469
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a friendly amendment to table?

470
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,520
>>

471
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,800
sure. Given how long?

472
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>>

473
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until the next zoning meeting.

474
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>>

475
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,960
until the

476
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next zoning meeting?

477
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,520
>> the problem

478
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520
with that, they're

479
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,120
only allowed one table.

480
00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,120
>> okay,

481
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,800
well, this would be their one table.

482
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,800
>>

483
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but then there wouldn't be time for

484
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,520
revisions or anything like that and they're talking massive.

485
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,520
mr. Chair, I think we

486
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,520
are --I think the audience is probably

487
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,520
here, and I think

488
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,520
we're probably, we're going around

489
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,520
in circles. We're all

490
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on the same page. Commissioner goodson

491
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was pretty close

492
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,000
there in the beginning. I made it

493
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,520
very

494
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,520
clear to anyone who has called where

495
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,520
I was on this one.

496
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,520
and I didn't understand that

497
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,520
you

498
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,920
are in favor of

499
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,520
that. I think with can table this

500
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520
and require planning and zoning

501
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,920
on august 14 with a

502
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,520
submittal date. And that is going

503
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,520
to get

504
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,520
us there, requires, gives the audience

505
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520
an

506
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,120
opportunity to engage us, engage planning

507
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and zoning

508
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,520
and

509
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,520
all

510
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,520
that and allows this board

511
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,800
to this board. Is that your motion?

512
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:54,680
>>

513
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,760
yes.

514
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,520
>> commissioner, do you want

515
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,280
to take the floor?

516
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,280
>> I'm sorry. So

517
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,520
we have a motion on the floor, it's been seconded.

518
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,920
all in favor, signify

519
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,440
by saying aye?

520
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,440
>> aye. >> all

521
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,440
opposed?

522
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,760
>> didn't we just make a motion to table?

523
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,520
>> do we need to hear about

524
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,920
it? Should we hear

525
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,400
the cards first?

526
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,520
>> we're going to hear

527
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,520
from the audience. We're going to

528
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520
hear from those people. But we

529
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,520
can do this. And here is my issue. I've

530
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,400
got three or four little tiny zoning

531
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400
issues

532
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,520
in front of them that will keep these

533
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,160
people here for hours.

534
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,160
>> I'm

535
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520
sorry, table this until after we

536
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,520
go the other items. I'm sorry, I assumed

537
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,160
it

538
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,720
was for a later date. I apologize.

539
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,520
>>

540
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,920
I know, it's confusing.

541
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,320
but just bare with me.

542
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,520
>> okay, we'll

543
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,000
move

544
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,920
them to the end.

545
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,520
>> right. Thank you,

546
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,440
I'm sorry.

547
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,440
>> that's all right.

548
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,520
and real quickly, we'll put you

549
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520
on hold for just a minute

550
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,520
and then

551
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,520
we're going to get to the ones I know

552
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,800
will be relatively quick.

553
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,520
>>

554
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,520
mr. Chair, if I may. Because it is

555
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520
contemplated that the

556
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,720
applicant is going to come back

557
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,520
with a substantially revised plan

558
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,520
and go through pnz and come to

559
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,520
this board again with a significant

560
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,880
lapse in

561
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,520
time and because the applicant isn't here

562
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,520
tonight,

563
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,520
it could create a really

564
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520
muddy record if we receive testimony

565
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520
tonight when the applicant

566
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,520
is not here to ask questions to the

567
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,520
witnesses

568
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,520
and those kinds of things. It could

569
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,920
create

570
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,760
record problems in the future. I understand

571
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,520
and feel for the folks who are out

572
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520
here tonight and want to be heard,

573
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,760
it is probably

574
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,520
in the best interest of everyone if

575
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,520
they're heard at the time the board

576
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,520
is actually going to make the decision

577
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,560
based on the application

578
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,520
that's submitted at that time. If

579
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,520
you want to hear them tonight in

580
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520
regards to the application knowing

581
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,520
that this particular application likely

582
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520
isn't going anywhere, you can do that.

583
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,520
but

584
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,800
it could create a confused record.

585
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:00,520
>>

586
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,520
I

587
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,360
certainly got

588
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:05,920
a confused chairman right now.

589
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,520
>>

590
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,680
typically

591
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,520
when the item continued, you don't

592
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520
receive testimony from the

593
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,520
public at the meeting at which it

594
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,760
is continued. Although if you

595
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,520
want to hear from these folks because

596
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,880
they didn't know and went

597
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,520
through the effort to come out, you may.

598
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,520
but in all likelihood whatever testimony goes

599
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520
on

600
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,520
the record tonight will be irrelevant

601
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,800
to the application that's considered in november.

602
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800
>> commissioner

603
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,720
pritchett?

604
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,520
>> thank you, mr. Chair. Just

605
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520
a question. I know with

606
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,520
what we have right now, it is not

607
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520
going

608
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,520
to, I don't think it will get passed. So

609
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520
maybe it would be

610
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,520
wise to hear from the applicant to

611
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520
see if

612
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520
he has some very substantial changes

613
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,520
that is even worth continuing it if

614
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,400
they would be willing to do it. I

615
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,520
don't

616
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,520
know. That is just a request to let things

617
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,360
be

618
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:53,960
solved now, I don't know.

619
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,520
>> okay.

620
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,520
>>

621
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520
what is your thought?

622
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,520
>> if the applicant is available to

623
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,520
speak

624
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,520
to that, then my understanding, I

625
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,880
thought I

626
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,520
heard the applicant wasn't here although

627
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280
I saw

628
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,400
someone moving forward.

629
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,520
>> I believe

630
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800
landy is here, correct? Are you the applicant?

631
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,120
>> yes. >> so you're available to speak?

632
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,120
>> okay.

633
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,920
>> if we could, please,

634
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520
I really would like to just get

635
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,520
these other folks out of the way,

636
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520
so we can go there. I

637
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,520
would like to have a

638
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520
temporary hold on this for

639
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,760
discussion purposes and move forward.

640
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520
so we're coming back to you as soon

641
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520
as I get done with these and

642
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,520
let these people get out, so we can

643
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,520
have full discretion and disclosure on this issue.

644
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,920
all right. Let me call up kim rezanka. Kim.

645
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,920
this is on h3.

646
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,800
yes, sir?

647
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,000
>>

648
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,880
jeff, I'm sorry.

649
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,520
>> mr. Chair. Let

650
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,520
me read the

651
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,880
items h3 and h4 into

652
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,520
the record. Companion applications. You

653
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520
can discuss them together, but

654
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520
you need separate motions. Item h4

655
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520
is jen florida

656
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,520
48, llc, requests a small-scare comprehensive

657
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,920
plan amendment to change

658
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,600
the future land use designation from res 1:2.5 and res 1

659
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,000
to res 4, application number

660
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
23ss00022. Tax

661
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,600
account number is 3000365 and

662
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,600
3000569. Located in district five. The

663
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,600
applicant is

664
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,000
requesting two waivers. The

665
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,600
waivers are for, to

666
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,200
exempt from 621448g requiring the designation

667
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600
of an outdoor parking area to

668
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,600
create travel and camping trailers

669
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,600
and vehicles, boats,

670
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,800
boat trailers and other similar vehicles. The

671
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,280
other waiver that's

672
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,440
being requested is from section 62-1446,

673
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,400
d3b to allow residential structures

674
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,960
two stories or less and minimum building separation

675
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,960
at 10 feet rather than 15 feet.

676
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,920
the agenda report, mr. Chair and commissioners

677
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,920
have conditions

678
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,280
for the board to consider and

679
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280
that is on the agenda

680
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,280
report as well. Number one

681
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
is

682
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,280
a total number that should

683
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280
not

684
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,880
exceed thinker approval of 62.14-46. Requesting

685
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280
a waiver from

686
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,880
section 6214, 46d3b. And prior to

687
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,920
county approval of construction plans

688
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,280
and preliminary

689
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,280
plat developership that the city of

690
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,280
pom

691
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280
bay will approve the

692
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,280
project in access connection to babcock

693
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,280
street

694
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,680
and determine adequate water

695
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,680
and sewer service will

696
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280
be available to the issue. And

697
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,280
during pnz,

698
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,480
the applicant provided a revised

699
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280
plan that showed 44-foot locks that's

700
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280
not being redirect

701
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,880
examination at this time. Thank you.

702
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,880
>> okay.

703
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,280
>> thank you, rim. I'm kim

704
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280
rezanka. I'm

705
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,280
here

706
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,680
with the developer sunterra's

707
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
owner zip, which is g,

708
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280
, and planner justice

709
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,280
anderson if

710
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280
you have any questions. Changing future

711
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,280
land use

712
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,280
with

713
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,280
an agreement to limit three utes and

714
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,480
snow

715
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,280
sufficient open space, sufficient

716
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,680
buffers, protection of wetlands

717
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,280
as required by county

718
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,280
code. We do have a presentation, however,

719
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,280
all the

720
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,280
information was in the minutes. We can go

721
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,280
through it if you would like or

722
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,280
if you have any questions, I

723
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,280
believe that was all straightforward. Pnz

724
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,480
recommended approval of both items and

725
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280
would ask approval of the changes

726
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280
future land use and the pud with

727
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,000
the conditions as stated.

728
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,280
>> I don't

729
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280
believe we

730
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280
have any cards

731
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,680
in opposition to this.

732
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,200
oh boy.

733
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,200
>> with that, we'll

734
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280
hear

735
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,280
the objections and then I'll respond.

736
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
>> good evening, sandra sullivan. So I

737
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280
just want

738
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,280
to read from

739
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,280
the staff report first. Centralized

740
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280
portable water

741
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,280
and sanitary sewer service is currently

742
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,280
not

743
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,680
available to the subject

744
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,280
property. The applicant has represented these

745
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280
services

746
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,280
will be provided by

747
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,280
the city of palm bay, but they have

748
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,280
not

749
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,280
provided these service. I want to

750
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280
go

751
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280
to state

752
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,880
statute, florida's growth policy act, sections

753
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,280
163.2511-1632.2520 of the florida

754
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
statutes, collectively known

755
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,280
as the growth policy act. A key takeaway

756
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,280
from

757
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,280
the policy act is the importance of

758
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,280
con currency. Con

759
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,280
currency as you

760
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,880
know is provisions, requiring that certain

761
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680
infrastructure be in place

762
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280
before

763
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,880
any new development is permitted. Portable

764
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,720
drinking

765
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,280
water and waste treatment facilities. So it

766
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280
says

767
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280
it's up to

768
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,280
the local government to implement

769
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,280
such requirements or

770
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,280
to via, any way, in advance. There seems

771
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
to be

772
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,280
a lot of this lately where there

773
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,280
is no sewage or way to pay for

774
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
it and one comment was made

775
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,680
here on the other

776
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,280
item. The sooner we will be able

777
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,400
to pay for it. Thank you.

778
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400
>> real quickly.

779
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680
jeff. Do we not

780
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,440
have

781
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280
a letter from the city of palm bay

782
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,400
on it this issue?

783
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,280
>> we do, we do

784
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,280
have a letter from the

785
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,600
city saying they are going to provide

786
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,640
water and sewer.

787
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,280
>> and that the developer

788
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,280
is going to

789
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,280
pay for that to come down? Is that

790
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,160
my understanding?

791
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,280
>> that they would

792
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,280
have to pay for

793
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,320
those services.

794
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280
>> thank you. >> and

795
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,280
that is correct. Palm bay has said

796
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280
they will provide wastewater, portable water,

797
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280
fire flows, and

798
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280
also to address con currency

799
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,440
going forward

800
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,280
into the florida statutes 163.182o

801
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,320
as the fair share, put into

802
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,280
place by the legislature just for

803
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,280
this purpose, so the developer does pay

804
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,280
for the growth. With that I would

805
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,320
request

806
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,800
that you approve these two items.

807
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,800
>> mr. Chair?

808
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,680
>> yes? >> and isn't is

809
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
also true that you

810
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,280
would not get a certificate of

811
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,200
occupancy unless they have water

812
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,120
and sewer?

813
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,280
>> that's correct. There

814
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280
is a condition on the pud that had

815
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,680
says water and sewer need to

816
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,320
be available prior to issuance.

817
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,280
>> we

818
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280
have spent months on making sure

819
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,280
all these t it's were crossed

820
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
and the I's

821
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,280
were dotted. Anymore --is there a

822
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,000
motion? And

823
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,800
it is my district.

824
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,280
>> I will make

825
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,280
a motion

826
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,600
for you.

827
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
>> motion to approve items h3 and h4.

828
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,120
>>

829
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,840
he wants them separate.

830
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,280
>> I make

831
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,280
a

832
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,480
motion to approve item h3.

833
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,280
>> is there a second? >> second.

834
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,800
>> any

835
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,640
discussion? All in favor?

836
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,280
>> aye. >>

837
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200
all opposed? The

838
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,760
motion carries. Let's go to h4.

839
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,280
>>

840
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,280
make a

841
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,280
motion to approve

842
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,800
item h4.

843
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,280
>> second. >> with the conditions that were mentioned.

844
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,280
>> okay. Any discussion?

845
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,280
I

846
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,880
would like to get back to

847
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,280
these patient people

848
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280
over here. Okay, you're up.

849
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
>> 2002219, 2002228,

850
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,280
2002229, 2002230, 2002231,

851
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,280
2002232 located in district one. The

852
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,280
applicant has requested a continuance

853
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
to

854
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
the september 5 board meeting.

855
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280
>> for the planning and zoning and that

856
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,680
would be the september 5

857
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,760
board of county commissioners meeting. That's

858
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
for

859
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,880
item h6 as well.

860
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
>> okay.

861
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
we have a

862
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,600
motion to continue, correct?

863
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,000
>> yes,

864
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,680
sir, I'd like to table it

865
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,240
to september 5 zoning meeting.

866
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,000
>>

867
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
is there a sect on

868
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,400
that? That is not

869
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
you guys. I'll

870
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,880
second.

871
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,280
>> any opposition

872
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,000
or discussion? All opposed? I do have

873
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
a card here

874
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
on h5 I believe from

875
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,600
sandra sullivan. Are you going to

876
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
waive that? Thank you very much

877
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000
for your cooperation on that, I appreciate

878
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
it. The applicants if nay

879
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
could come up and sit here,

880
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
so we -- on h2.

881
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
>> I'm going to table

882
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,880
item 7 and 8 too if I may, soon.

883
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,880
>> okay, go ahead.

884
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000
>> okay. H7 and h8, you have to readvertise. Would

885
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
you like

886
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000
to read it first or do I need

887
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,560
to ask him to table?

888
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,560
>>

889
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
so item h7 and 8 will be readvertised. There

890
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
is

891
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,000
an issue with the application. So

892
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,200
this one would be continued not to

893
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
a date

894
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,560
center because we're readvertising.

895
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560
>>

896
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,000
okay, I make a motion

897
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,560
to table.

898
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,960
>> is there a second?

899
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,000
>> all

900
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,680
in favor?

901
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,000
>> aye. >> okay, now I promise we're on you.

902
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,920
kevin?

903
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
>> I'm sorry, mr. Chair.

904
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,400
I thought that the motion on h5

905
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,000
included h6 as well to continue those. The

906
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
clerk

907
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
didn't hear

908
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000
that. Was h6 included?

909
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
>> yes. >> yeah. I

910
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,000
don't want to have my

911
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
mistakes to come back on. So thanks,

912
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
morris. I

913
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,280
appreciate it very much. What

914
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,000
do you need clarification on? It is

915
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,560
the same item.

916
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
>>

917
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
september

918
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,560
5 for both items.

919
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
>>

920
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,400
correct. Okay, kevin fox,

921
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
where

922
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,000
are you? Come on up. We are back on h2.

923
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
>> sorry,

924
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
I apologize. What do we start out

925
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,000
with? I don't know the protocol. I'm

926
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,720
not the presenter.

927
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:35,200
>> you're

928
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,560
here to discuss the zoning request?

929
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,000
>>

930
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
you're in opposition

931
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
to it, you have a red shirt on. Go

932
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,800
ahead.

933
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:51,600
>> I apologize to that. And I'm here to represent the north homeowners association.

934
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400
I'd like to point

935
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
out the

936
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,880
hazard area.

937
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,880
>> I'm sorry. Did

938
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,840
you have a

939
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,560
question? I'm sorry, sir.

940
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,000
>> is this

941
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,320
us

942
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,000
securing the item? I want to understand

943
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,640
what where she done.

944
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,360
>> the

945
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,000
board announced a contention to continue

946
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
this and it has been made clear

947
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
that it will come back in

948
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,000
a different form and go through prior. My

949
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
recommendation would be

950
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000
for the board not to hear testimony on

951
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,200
the item

952
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,000
tonight because that testimony is

953
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
all going to change. It is going to

954
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
create a confused record. While I

955
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000
understand these folks are out tonight,

956
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,400
anything they say

957
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,000
tonight won't be relevant and the

958
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,400
board can't consider it when

959
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,000
it is considering the future application.

960
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,400
so if you want

961
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
to allow them to speak

962
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000
their peace because they're here, they

963
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,200
may b nothing

964
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,000
said tonight will likely be jermaine

965
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,280
or be able to

966
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,000
be considered when this is ultimately

967
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
heard by the

968
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,360
board. >> we only have a few cards,

969
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000
so you're recognizing this is not going

970
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
to go on the public record in regards

971
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,000
to? You're going to have to come back

972
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
at

973
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,760
the continuation.

974
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,760
>> I'm confused.

975
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000
I thought you were going to talk to

976
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
them first and

977
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400
after they spoke, then

978
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,600
we would speak.

979
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,000
>> stop

980
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000
over there, please. No, ma'am, please. We

981
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
can handle this. We're

982
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,000
big people here. We can have a conversation, thank

983
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
you. So first

984
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000
what I'm telling you is that this

985
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
is going to be continued

986
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
to another date. I said to

987
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
everybody that I still wanted to

988
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000
allow the people that are here to

989
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
speak,

990
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,400
so they did not

991
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,240
make

992
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,000
an unnecessary trip. Mr. Richardson

993
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
said we can do that or we

994
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
could just send you all home without saying

995
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
anything and then you'll have to come back any way.

996
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000
what I'm trying to do

997
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,240
is give you the opportunity if you

998
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,000
are against this to spike tonight,

999
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000
but you still need to come back when

1000
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,560
we have our next meeting.

1001
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
>>

1002
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
I thought if you voted it no, they can't

1003
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
come back for six months or it is

1004
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000
a four months. I thought you were

1005
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,200
going to discuss that and

1006
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,000
make your decision. That is my confusion

1007
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,440
as of right now if you're going to

1008
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,000
do

1009
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,000
that tact and talk to the developer if

1010
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,200
they

1011
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000
won't have a substantial plan. That's

1012
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,560
the confusion for me.

1013
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,000
>>

1014
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
I mean the developer is welcome to

1015
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
say something,

1016
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000
but once again, this will be continued. And

1017
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000
so all of this stuff

1018
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,480
is going to be for not. The only reason

1019
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,000
that

1020
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
I stopped this tonight is I didn't want you

1021
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
walking out of

1022
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
here without having the opportunity from driving all

1023
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
it this

1024
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000
way to be able to say something about this if

1025
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
you would

1026
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
like to. If you don't want to and

1027
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
you all want to go

1028
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000
home and eat some dinner and stuff

1029
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,480
like

1030
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,400
that, that's fine with us too.

1031
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,000
>>

1032
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
myself I believe there's letters

1033
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,600
we've written that will stand for

1034
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,240
themselves

1035
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,000
because it won't be pertinent. And

1036
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000
that is the way I understand it now listening to the attorney.

1037
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
I can just stop. You know

1038
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
we're in opposition to it and at

1039
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
the present land use level. I'll say

1040
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:10,560
it, 17 units per acre.

1041
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,560
>>

1042
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
okay, we are trying to be fair

1043
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000
to both sides and I think we're in

1044
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
good shape now

1045
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,640
and there are other people.

1046
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,000
>> go ahead. >>

1047
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
sorry, one quick question. Are you in

1048
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
favor of the

1049
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,720
six months or four months?

1050
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,720
>> I would

1051
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000
say the six months. I mean the four months then.

1052
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,520
>> I thought you were going to discuss

1053
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,000
that,

1054
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000
so we could better understand it. I

1055
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400
don't know all the

1056
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
ins and outs of this, so I

1057
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
thought you were going to

1058
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,600
come talk to the developer.

1059
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,000
>> I get

1060
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
it. And I appreciate it. This is just

1061
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
new

1062
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
for us and that someone

1063
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000
tabled that late. So I apologize. This is

1064
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
just that we

1065
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
got thrown a curveball and I appreciate that

1066
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,280
and the chair has done a good job

1067
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,240
of trying to.

1068
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,000
>> I don't want other

1069
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
people coming back

1070
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
when they did not have that opportunity. The reason

1071
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,000
I wanted to continue it in the first

1072
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,400
place is because of

1073
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000
the notice that was sent out that stopped people from coming.

1074
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,520
>> yes, sir. >> it

1075
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,000
could have potentially hurt the developer also.

1076
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
and so all

1077
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,480
of a sudden we get into a lawsuit that

1078
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,000
said

1079
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000
well, what happened here? What happens

1080
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
here is that somebody sent out

1081
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000
a notice, they didn't show up, and

1082
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,440
now we've got

1083
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,520
a big mess.

1084
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,000
>> yes, sir. >> and I

1085
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
want

1086
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
to cross our t's and dot our I's if

1087
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,560
it's going to be killed or not. Whatever.

1088
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,760
>> can you give us the dates again?

1089
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,000
>> yes, planning

1090
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,920
and zoning and all that.

1091
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,320
>> we will. Hold on.

1092
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,520
hold on.

1093
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,000
>> I was trying to determine where

1094
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,240
the

1095
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,000
commission was going to land. Would

1096
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,200
you

1097
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,000
pull the commission and see if they

1098
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,400
are apt to sending

1099
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,880
it back to pnz

1100
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,520
and coming back on the 7th.

1101
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,000
>> you

1102
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,280
wanty me

1103
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000
to poll the commission on where they

1104
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
stand on the

1105
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,320
issue?

1106
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000
>> on whether or not we're agreeable

1107
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,720
to table to the 7th.

1108
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,000
>> that's

1109
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,400
fine with me.

1110
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400
>> okay. >> where do

1111
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,720
you stand?

1112
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,000
>> yeah, I

1113
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
have to clarify. I got yelled at. So

1114
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
let me change the dates because this

1115
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
is very important and I

1116
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
move

1117
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,400
to approve the application

1118
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,280
number 23pud00001 to the

1119
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,000
november 7 commission zoning meeting

1120
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
and

1121
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
under the within that it

1122
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
is reheard

1123
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
on october 14 of 2024

1124
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
and that would

1125
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
require the

1126
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000
party to do so

1127
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
by august second. And it will be on

1128
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
november 7 and I apologize for getting

1129
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000
those dates wrong the

1130
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,920
first time. Kevin, are you okay now?

1131
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920
>> I didn't understand.

1132
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,600
>> hold on. >> and I

1133
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,520
got it, guys.

1134
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,000
>> I'm asking him to

1135
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,920
hold on.

1136
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,920
>> I'm calling you.

1137
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
>> thank you. Okay.

1138
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
>> question, yes, sir.

1139
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000
it is 52 units you

1140
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,800
said, right?

1141
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800
>> how many acres? >>

1142
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,760
per lot you mean?

1143
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,760
>> how many

1144
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,560
acres per total?

1145
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
>>

1146
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
half of 52, so everybody is about half

1147
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,560
an acre if you count the canals.

1148
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,560
>>

1149
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000
thank you,

1150
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,800
sir. Thank you, chair.

1151
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,000
>> certainly.

1152
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
and let's continue

1153
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
with the polls.

1154
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
>> okay. >> that's

1155
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
good. And I'm in agreement with that too. Where

1156
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
are you with

1157
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,760
this poll?

1158
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,760
>> I'm okay

1159
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,560
to continuing it to his motion.

1160
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,360
>>

1161
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,000
all right, so we are all in agreement with that.

1162
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,160
all in

1163
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,000
favor of the continuation signify

1164
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
by saying

1165
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,840
aye?

1166
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,840
>> aye. >>

1167
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
all opposed nays? The motion carries. Was

1168
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
there something else that you need

1169
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
to say? No, please do.

1170
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
okay, wow.

1171
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
this is fun. All right.

1172
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,000
so the reason this was done

1173
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
is to be

1174
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,000
in complete fairness to everybody. I

1175
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
apologize

1176
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
that we did this tonight, but

1177
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,000
I don't think that we had a choice. So

1178
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,400
thank you all for

1179
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
coming, we appreciate it very

1180
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
much. I'm certain you'll

1181
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,000
be hearing from the developer or mr. Fox and

1182
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
other

1183
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
people. So thank

1184
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
you for coming

1185
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
this evening. All right, let's

1186
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,560
move on. Where are we?

1187
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,560
>>

1188
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
my record is that we need to start

1189
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,240
on item

1190
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,320
h9.

1191
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,000
>> thank you, jeff. I appreciate

1192
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
it. Go ahead,

1193
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,600
jeff.

1194
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,000
>> h9 and h10 are companion applications. I'll

1195
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,000
read them into the record.

1196
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
you'll need separate motions for

1197
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
each. Item h9 is alexis dejesus

1198
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,480
and rosemary dejesus and brandon dejesus

1199
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,480
request

1200
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment 24s.07

1201
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
from cc and

1202
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,000
nc to all cc. Application number

1203
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,400
24ss00007. Tax account number

1204
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
is 2102561 located in

1205
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,000
district 1. And item h10 is alexis

1206
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
dejesus, rosemary dejesus,

1207
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
and brandon dejesus request a request

1208
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000
a change of zoning classification from bu-1

1209
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,600
and au to all bu-2. Application

1210
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,400
number 24z00021, tax account number

1211
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,000
2102561. Located in district 1. A

1212
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
part of the

1213
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
planning and the zoning recommendation

1214
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
for the zoning

1215
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,000
application was to submit a bdp to

1216
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000
restrict the uses for all

1217
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,400
one uses and the

1218
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
sale of automobile and

1219
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
mobile homes

1220
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
with a

1221
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,400
six-foot wall along the

1222
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
--I'm sorry,

1223
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
along the eastbound including any

1224
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
residential

1225
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000
use. I wanted to put on the record

1226
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000
if the

1227
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,000
board approves the request, then the

1228
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
next up would

1229
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
be the site plan process, where the applicant

1230
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,120
would work with an engineer to make sure

1231
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,120
that what the code will

1232
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,520
require that is in place before the actual

1233
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,720
use of the property will take place.

1234
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,920
>> thank you, sir. Applicants are here.

1235
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,120
I have a request. Love your application.

1236
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,800
but I don't like concrete walls.

1237
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:44,720
usually natural resources works with me on another avenue.

1238
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,720
so I'm going to have

1239
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,720
mr. Jeffrey read a recommendation that I

1240
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:53,720
have if you would do this, I think

1241
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,720
it would be a great

1242
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:56,720
project. Binding development plan. So

1243
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,720
he's

1244
00:46:58,720 --> 00:46:59,720
going to read it. It's pretty much

1245
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,720
what you're wanting to do, but

1246
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:02,800
just kind of protects it.

1247
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,720
>> I'm here for the warming.

1248
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,720
>> okay, yes,

1249
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:09,280
please.

1250
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,720
>>

1251
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:11,720
and so the proposed conditions -- [

1252
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:13,720
inaudible ] would restrict

1253
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,720
the uses to

1254
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,720
all bu-1 uses and only mobile home sales

1255
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,240
from the bu-2

1256
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,720
zoning district and prohibit access to contrary road.

1257
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,720
>> that's

1258
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,760
good.

1259
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,720
>> I thought you would be

1260
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:30,600
good with it.

1261
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,600
>> that's perfect.

1262
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,160
>>

1263
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,720
commissioner, a couple quick questions. One,

1264
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,720
the staff, is

1265
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:38,720
there still an open code enforcement violation

1266
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,720
on this

1267
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:42,280
property?

1268
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,280
>>

1269
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,720
it is

1270
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:48,880
my

1271
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,280
understanding that -- [ inaudible ]

1272
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,720
>>

1273
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:06,160
and as long as we don't have to put

1274
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
up

1275
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,520
a wall, yes.

1276
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,520
>> absolutely,

1277
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,920
go ahead. The sale of mobile homes.

1278
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,720
[ inaudible ]

1279
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,600
required information that is required

1280
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,400
to support that use. And just because

1281
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400
they approve the use today. If the

1282
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,000
board approved that, that will have

1283
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,400
to come

1284
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,160
back and the subsequents planned would need

1285
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,960
to be approved today.

1286
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,400
>> you can not

1287
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,400
go selling homes tomorrow.

1288
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,520
>> I understand there's a procedure.

1289
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,400
>> thank you, sir. Good catch.

1290
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,400
>> okay, so you got it. You

1291
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,240
understand where we are?

1292
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,400
>> yes. >>

1293
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,960
do we have a motion?

1294
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
>>

1295
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,840
what kind of

1296
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,400
boundaries are in questioning here? Shrubs,

1297
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,800
fence?

1298
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,400
>> let me say this to you real quick.

1299
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,800
you're going

1300
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,400
to need to develop a binding development plan. It's going

1301
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,400
to

1302
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,400
have to be submitted to planning

1303
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,400
and zoning and they

1304
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,400
will approve it and you can go forward

1305
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,800
and they will talk

1306
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,400
about everything else that you

1307
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,400
need to think about. And that's it

1308
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,400
and

1309
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,400
you

1310
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,160
need to get a bdp.

1311
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
>> but you will

1312
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,400
be in agreement with this. You just

1313
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,400
said so. And

1314
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
as they work

1315
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,560
through that, they will bring back

1316
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,400
other abilities to comply with all

1317
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,800
the things you need

1318
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,640
to

1319
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,880
comply with.

1320
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,400
>> that's fine. >> okay. Let's

1321
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,400
see if

1322
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,120
we can get a motion.

1323
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,120
>> I make

1324
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,960
a motion to approve item h9.

1325
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,960
>>

1326
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:57,920
is there a second?

1327
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,400
>>

1328
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,440
second.

1329
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,440
>> any discussion? Hearing

1330
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:03,920
no discussion. All in

1331
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,480
favor?

1332
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,400
>> aye. All opposed? Motion

1333
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,120
carries.

1334
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,120
>> I make

1335
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,400
a motion to

1336
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:12,960
approve item h10.

1337
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960
>>

1338
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
is there a

1339
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,400
second? And any

1340
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:21,960
discussion? All in favor?

1341
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,640
>>

1342
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,400
aye. Motion carries. You're good to

1343
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:24,960
go for tonight.

1344
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,960
>>

1345
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,000
that's it, thank you

1346
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,480
so much.

1347
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,400
>> once we put together a development plan,

1348
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,560
we have to get it approved

1349
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,400
through zoning and then we have to

1350
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:33,960
come in front of the board again?

1351
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960
>> hold on, you'll

1352
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,960
be able to talk to planning and zoning and that handsome fellow over there.

1353
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,960
>> all right,

1354
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,800
thank you. Thank you,

1355
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,280
guys.

1356
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,280
>> talk to george.

1357
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,400
>> commissioner steele? My apology. I

1358
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,400
believe we

1359
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,400
had a motion on h9, but we also need

1360
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,800
a motion on h10.

1361
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,800
>> I did both.

1362
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,320
>> we did both. >> I'm

1363
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,360
sorry.

1364
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,520
>> that's right. >>

1365
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,520
just so the clerk knows on h9 and

1366
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,520
h10, you got that? Okay, cool. We're good.

1367
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,520
>> and the motion for 10 included

1368
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,120
the bpd with those conditions.

1369
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,120
>> okay.

1370
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,520
>> commissioner pritchett? >> thank

1371
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,520
you. You guys are clear

1372
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,520
on that. Okay,

1373
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,320
thank you. H11, jeffrey?

1374
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,320
>> item h44 is

1375
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520
put it in me storage,

1376
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,520
llc, requests a small-scale comprehensive

1377
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,520
plan amendment

1378
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,520
24s.04

1379
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,520
from industrial to commercial. Application

1380
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,520
number 24ss00004, tax account numbers

1381
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,920
2322557 located in district one.

1382
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,520
>> okay.

1383
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,280
the applicant

1384
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,880
is here. Come on up, please.

1385
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,520
>> I

1386
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,520
was going to

1387
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,160
make a motion to approve it.

1388
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,920
>> and

1389
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,000
go ahead.

1390
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:13,520
>> I'm sorry. Sir, I didn't

1391
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,280
catch

1392
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,880
your name or the company?

1393
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,520
>> I did

1394
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,520
not give it

1395
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,520
yet. My name is vaheed teimouri.

1396
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,400
>> okay. I'm

1397
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,000
here to answer any questions.

1398
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,520
>> I

1399
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520
didn't

1400
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,800
catch the company name.

1401
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,800
>>

1402
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:30,880
timori and associates.

1403
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,520
>> I'm sorry.

1404
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,520
I make a motion

1405
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,280
to approve item h11.

1406
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,280
>> I second it.

1407
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,680
>> any discussion? There is

1408
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,520
a motion by commissioner pritchett.

1409
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,920
seconded by commissioner goodson.

1410
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,520
no discussion. Signify by

1411
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,320
saying aye. The motion carries.

1412
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,320
>> thank you.

1413
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,520
>>

1414
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,720
okay. We are moving now. H12,

1415
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,800
this is me.

1416
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:58,520
>> item h12, richard jones requests

1417
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,520
a

1418
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,920
change of zoning classification

1419
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,520
from gu to ru-1-9, application number 24z00006,

1420
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,720
tax account number is 2716623, located in district 5.

1421
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,920
>> mr. Jones here? >> yes.

1422
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,920
>> come on up, young man.

1423
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,520
I just want you to know

1424
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,520
that in the event they have any questions that

1425
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,520
I would like

1426
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,160
to open up the floor.

1427
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,160
>> and

1428
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,520
make a

1429
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,520
motion

1430
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,960
to approve.

1431
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,520
>> seconded by commissioner tobia. Any discussion? All

1432
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,360
in favor?

1433
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:43,720
>> aye. >>

1434
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,520
all opposed? Motion carries, you're

1435
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,320
good to go.

1436
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,320
>> all right.

1437
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,920
>> all right, h13. Jamine

1438
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,800
kent. Go ahead.

1439
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,800
>>

1440
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,520
item

1441
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,520
h13 is jamine kent, carlene sapp-kent,

1442
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,520
jermaine kent,

1443
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,520
request the

1444
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,920
classification from au to

1445
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,520
ru-1-11. Application number 23z00013,

1446
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,560
tax account number

1447
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,800
2103548, located in district one.

1448
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,520
>>

1449
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,240
commissioner?

1450
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,240
>> I make

1451
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:17,960
a motion to approve item h13.

1452
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,520
>> second.

1453
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,520
>>

1454
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,520
there is a motion on the floor,

1455
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,520
seconded by commissioner tobia. Is

1456
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,520
there any discussion? Hearing no

1457
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,920
discussion, signify by saying

1458
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,520
aye. The

1459
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,520
motion carries,

1460
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,120
you're good to go

1461
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,120
>> it's

1462
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,520
the community ink, requesting the

1463
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,520
classification from in

1464
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,520
l to ru-2-15, application

1465
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,920
number 24z00014, tax account number 2501136, located in district two.

1466
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,920
so mr. Chair and

1467
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,760
commissioners, there is an error with

1468
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
the planning and zoning approval. The

1469
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,520
vote should have

1470
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,520
been 8-1 with the recommendation of approval.

1471
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,520
>> okay.

1472
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,480
the applicants are here. Bruce, I

1473
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,520
guess you're representing them? >> yes, sir.

1474
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,520
>> it looks like we're going to have

1475
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,160
a little bit of a discussion on this, so

1476
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,520
you might as

1477
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,120
well make your presentation.

1478
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,000
>> yes,

1479
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,520
thank you very much. Good evening, commissioners.

1480
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,520
mr. Chairman, my

1481
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,520
name is bruce moia, representing the applicant.

1482
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,520
very

1483
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,520
excited to be here today to present

1484
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
this project

1485
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,520
to you. This would be possibly the second one

1486
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,520
that we

1487
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,920
would do should it

1488
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,520
be approved. This is

1489
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,520
a model for housing children that

1490
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,760
are

1491
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,520
coming out of foster care. So when

1492
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,760
they get kicked out

1493
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,520
on their 18th birthday with nowhere

1494
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,760
to go, they're planning on

1495
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,520
building a facility to take these

1496
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,800
kids in, teach

1497
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,520
them how to earn a living, train them

1498
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,920
on how to be

1499
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,520
a productive member of society.

1500
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,840
so we own

1501
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,520
the construction on the first model in

1502
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,520
melbourne. Very well

1503
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,520
received by the city. And it

1504
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,520
is affordable housing for these kids. So

1505
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,520
we

1506
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,520
are trying

1507
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,520
to do this again here. Very low impact

1508
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,520
because most of these kids don't drive. They will

1509
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,720
be following

1510
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,520
all the rules of the county. There's

1511
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,920
some issues about floodplain,

1512
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520
which is why you guys

1513
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,800
have such strict rules about

1514
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,840
developing in the floodplain, so we

1515
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,520
will be abiding by those requirements. But

1516
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,520
in order

1517
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,520
to do this, we have to change

1518
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,520
the zoning to a multi-family zoning. And what we

1519
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,520
will be doing

1520
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,520
is we will be bringing utilities to this

1521
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,680
property

1522
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,520
because currently it is on septic

1523
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,960
and we'll be putting

1524
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,400
it on sewer.

1525
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,520
>> okay. >> so if you

1526
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,520
have any

1527
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,520
questions, we'll be happy to answer

1528
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,560
them.

1529
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,520
>> okay, who is katherine?

1530
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,520
okay.

1531
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,520
you have a card here

1532
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,520
that basically says, are you here

1533
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,960
to answer

1534
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,520
questions? You want to make comments is what

1535
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,520
you would like to do? Okay,

1536
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,520
that's fine. I was just confused by

1537
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,520
the card. All right, bruce,

1538
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,520
let's sit down for a second and we'll

1539
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,520
call the cards

1540
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,520
up. Katherine, come on up.

1541
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
>> I've never done

1542
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,400
this before, so you will have to forgive

1543
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:19,960
me.

1544
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,520
>> I haven't either.

1545
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,520
>> yes, you've been around for a while. I've

1546
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,520
been here for 59 years. I recognize all the names.

1547
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,520
any

1548
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
way I just, I'm opposed to it

1549
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,520
because it's going to create a big

1550
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,520
problem with the junior high school,

1551
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,520
we have this going up

1552
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,520
across the street. We have tons of

1553
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,520
traffic now as it is,

1554
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,520
and then I understand this attractive

1555
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,520
homes

1556
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,520
are going up also? I was

1557
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,520
told it was 43

1558
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,920
homes besides the housing

1559
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,520
for the kids. So I don't know.

1560
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,520
>> ma'am, you

1561
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,480
have to address the board, okay. You

1562
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,200
can't turn around.

1563
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,520
>> I don't

1564
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,520
know much about it, I was just brought

1565
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,800
into this right now.

1566
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,800
>>

1567
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,000
we're fine with you. But being a person

1568
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
that

1569
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,520
lives on that street, I just see

1570
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,000
a tremendous amount of problems there. There's

1571
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,240
problems

1572
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,880
now. So that is my concern.

1573
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,520
>> all

1574
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,520
right, your

1575
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,120
comments have been noted.

1576
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,120
>> okay,

1577
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,520
good. Thank you so much. Allen, commissioner

1578
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,280
goodson?

1579
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,280
>> ma'am, ma'am.

1580
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,520
>>

1581
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,240
oh, I'm sorry.

1582
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:32,720
>> where do you live? What

1583
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,840
street?

1584
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,520
>> on banana boulevard. Which

1585
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,520
is right where

1586
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,520
all of this is going to go on. The

1587
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,320
church is

1588
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:42,880
there and then that property south.

1589
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,520
>>

1590
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,160
north of there.

1591
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,160
>> you

1592
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,360
live on the west

1593
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,000
side? How far down banana?

1594
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,520
>> not

1595
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,520
quite

1596
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,240
half way.

1597
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,720
>> so does

1598
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,520
banana tie into tropical trail? Does

1599
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,600
banana tie into tropical trail?

1600
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,520
>> yes. >> thank you.

1601
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,520
>> thank you.

1602
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,120
>> do you a question, commissioner? No.

1603
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,520
>> all right.

1604
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,120
allen, did you want to say

1605
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,400
something?

1606
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:10,520
>> yes. Come on up. And

1607
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,520
then if

1608
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,520
you would be kind enough, I'm going to

1609
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,920
give allen and this

1610
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,520
other lovely lady's

1611
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,440
address, which is 435 banana boulevard. So

1612
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,000
allen, go ahead.

1613
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,520
>>

1614
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,520
yeah, I just got a question. A couple questions.

1615
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,760
but

1616
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,520
before you give them permission to

1617
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,800
build something, do you go

1618
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,520
through the flood plan? This is not

1619
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,520
for the flood plan and you

1620
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,520
know nothing about the flood plan. But if

1621
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,520
there is the flood plan, my house

1622
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,520
going to get into the danger flood

1623
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,520
path

1624
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,520
you might say. I just want to know,

1625
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,520
you don't add that into consideration. Somebody

1626
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,800
does.

1627
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,520
>> that's a pretty simple question.

1628
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,520
we

1629
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,520
go through a thorough analysis of

1630
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,520
what's

1631
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,520
going to happen with it. They've got

1632
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,520
to submit a site plan

1633
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,840
to the building

1634
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,520
department, the planning department. Those

1635
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,520
issues node to

1636
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
be resolved and talked about. Is that

1637
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,120
a good enough answer? Okay. Do

1638
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:15,920
you have anymore to say?

1639
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,520
>> not really

1640
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,520
except for

1641
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,520
the traffic problem. I guess they're

1642
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,920
going

1643
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,520
to go through and have to figure out where

1644
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,520
they will go from the school. They

1645
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,520
have a school there. If they are

1646
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,520
going to put --I wasn't understand

1647
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,520
the impression they would put 43 houses

1648
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,800
on three acres of property.

1649
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,520
>>

1650
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,520
we are not addressing the 43 units,

1651
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,520
and I

1652
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,520
don't know if that is accurate.

1653
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,680
we are addressing this

1654
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,520
particular zoning request tonight,

1655
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,520
and I don't

1656
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,920
know if there are

1657
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360
43 units being applied for not

1658
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:51,920
there. That is speculation at this point.

1659
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,520
>>

1660
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,520
all right,

1661
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,280
thank you very much.

1662
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,520
>> I appreciate your comments. Somebody

1663
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,520
else, anybody on this side have a comment?

1664
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,520
>> tad, were you going to say something? >>

1665
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,520
I was going

1666
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,520
to say they need to go through the

1667
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,520
site

1668
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,520
plan after they're throughed with this. And

1669
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,520
the proposed, what

1670
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,520
where she on our

1671
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,720
staff report shows that it will be

1672
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,520
a 43 unit development.

1673
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,520
>> commissioner goodson? >> thank

1674
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,560
you.

1675
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,520
>> yes, sir, this might be

1676
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,520
to bruce. Are we

1677
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,520
talking about 43 houses or 43 apartments. Can

1678
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,520
you help

1679
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,560
us?

1680
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,520
>> yes, sir, it will be 43

1681
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,520
units will be the maximum

1682
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,680
potential, but we have floodplains

1683
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,440
to deal with and wetlands possibly

1684
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,400
to deal with.

1685
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:42,400
>> you're not talking

1686
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,000
about 43 houses?

1687
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,520
>> no, 43 multi-family

1688
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,440
units.

1689
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,440
>> okay. Explain to

1690
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,800
us what is a multi-family unit.

1691
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,120
>> it will be like an apartment.

1692
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,120
>> okay.

1693
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,520
and it wouldn't be single-family homes

1694
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,520
where they

1695
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,520
would be detached. It will be multi-family.

1696
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,520
but the zoning would allow up to

1697
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,200
43, but I don't know if we can get

1698
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200
43 by the time

1699
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,000
we do retention and all that. We just

1700
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,520
need the

1701
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,520
zoning, so we could actually put together a plan.

1702
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,520
>>

1703
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:10,960
bruce, would you try to get with some

1704
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,720
of

1705
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,520
these homeowners around and kind of

1706
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,520
meet with them a little bit and

1707
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,840
show them your plans at some

1708
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,600
point?

1709
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:21,520
>> we don't have

1710
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,160
a plan we don't even know.

1711
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,520
>> oh,

1712
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,120
absolutely, yes, sir.

1713
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:24,760
>> will

1714
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,520
you be more than happy to meet with

1715
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,400
them?

1716
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:27,800
>> yes, sir. >>

1717
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,120
okay, that's what I wanted to hear.

1718
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,120
>> okay.

1719
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:32,840
thank you.

1720
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,520
>> commissioner?

1721
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,520
>> thank you. Just for your guys comfort, they're

1722
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,520
going

1723
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,520
to have to still go through a traffic

1724
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,760
study and all

1725
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,520
those items as well. So after this,

1726
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,920
there is

1727
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,520
still a lot of hurdles to get through that,

1728
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,520
that will give

1729
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,600
you a little comfort.

1730
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,600
>> thank you for being here.

1731
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,120
>> joe ikenlaub? >> right on the money.

1732
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,520
>> there

1733
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,800
you go.

1734
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,800
>>

1735
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,520
how are you doing? Go ahead. You got

1736
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,520
a comment

1737
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,280
on this issue, go ahead.

1738
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:14,520
>> I want to

1739
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,520
congratulate them on

1740
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,520
what they're doing for the children

1741
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,800
or

1742
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,520
young adults, I'm guessing from what

1743
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,520
I heard 18 or over possibly.

1744
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,920
I don't know

1745
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,520
how many number of children or adults are

1746
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,520
going

1747
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,720
to be in the 43 units in the

1748
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,720
area. You just brought up

1749
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,720
a good point, rita, that this is

1750
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,720
an ongoing thing and a lot of things

1751
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,720
need to be addressed. What

1752
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,720
I would like to

1753
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:48,720
address of, these two gentlemen back

1754
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,720
here

1755
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,880
is our

1756
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,720
neighborhood that accidentally got

1757
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,720
notified that this

1758
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,720
was even happening. The

1759
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,720
signage, the minimal, looks like a

1760
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,720
sad

1761
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,720
garage sale sign that you couldn't

1762
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,800
read. Nobody in the whole neighborhood of

1763
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,480
the beach knew any of this was going on.

1764
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,720
we would like

1765
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,720
to have the consideration of h2

1766
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,720
to have this continued, so we could notify all

1767
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,720
the neighbors and get their opinions

1768
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,720
and to

1769
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,720
have a get together with them and

1770
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
maybe show up

1771
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,720
like the people that they

1772
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,720
would

1773
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,000
try to do here. Understand what in

1774
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,720
janet is trying to do. We would like

1775
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,720
to support it and the

1776
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:39,720
school with all the children across

1777
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,720
the

1778
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,120
street is kind of

1779
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,200
a concern

1780
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,720
for safety purposes, traffic naturally. And we

1781
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,120
would try to get

1782
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,720
people to the school buses on banana boulevard

1783
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,120
is the main thoroughfare

1784
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,720
besides courtney and

1785
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,720
tropical trail to get to right here. I

1786
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,720
would like to ask if

1787
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,720
this could be continued, so

1788
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,720
we

1789
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,720
could notify the neighbors ourselves, since

1790
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,720
you'll

1791
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,720
be able to do that for us as requested

1792
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,720
and so

1793
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:18,720
that we could have some time to put this

1794
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,720
all

1795
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,320
together and understand it.

1796
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,720
>> okay,

1797
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,000
thank you for

1798
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,720
your comments. Let me explain to you

1799
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,720
that there is a process that

1800
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,720
will go on before the zoning will be called on.

1801
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,720
we send out notices to everybody and

1802
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:33,720
there are signs that are posted on

1803
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,720
the land

1804
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:36,720
and things of that nature. So if you

1805
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,720
did

1806
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,720
not get

1807
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,720
a notice, I'm very surprised. Normally

1808
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,720
we don't

1809
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,320
do continuation on things unless there

1810
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,720
is some sort of confusion in regards

1811
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,720
to like what happened here tonight. There

1812
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:54,720
was some confusion in regards to somebody

1813
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,120
sending out a notice

1814
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,720
saying that the

1815
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,200
thing would be continued. I asked

1816
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,720
mr. Moia

1817
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,720
before he gets into the potential

1818
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,720
for site

1819
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,720
plan and things of that nature if

1820
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,720
he would come meet with

1821
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:09,720
you and he said he would. So that is

1822
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,720
the best

1823
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:13,960
that we could do tonight. I don't

1824
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,720
believe anybody wants to continue

1825
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:16,480
this tonight?

1826
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,480
>> I have a

1827
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,600
question.

1828
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,720
>> and did we send

1829
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,720
out notices in the mail.

1830
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,160
>> I believe so. But if you send out the

1831
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,720
mailer, you don't know if they receive it or

1832
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,720
not, but you make an effort to send

1833
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,720
it

1834
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:04,440
out, correct?

1835
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,720
>> yes, sir. And

1836
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,720
that mailer is a courtesy and it is

1837
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,720
above and beyond

1838
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,720
what the statue would require.

1839
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,720
so the

1840
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,720
request is posted on the property. It's

1841
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,720
advertised on the county website and

1842
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,120
a courtesy notice will

1843
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,360
go out.

1844
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,720
>> thank you. Okay.

1845
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,720
>> do you live within that radius

1846
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:25,720
that you might

1847
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:26,480
not have received it?

1848
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,720
>> yes. And

1849
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,720
30 other people

1850
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,720
that I have notified and told about

1851
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,120
this, two of which

1852
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,200
got notification and they happen to

1853
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,800
be just 500 feet maybe.

1854
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:39,720
>> I got you. >>

1855
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:40,280
from there.

1856
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,200
>>

1857
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,800
thank you, chair.

1858
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:42,720
>> yes, sir. >>

1859
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,720
okay. Thank you

1860
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,320
very much for your time tonight.

1861
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,720
>>

1862
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:55,280
elizabeth?

1863
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,280
>>

1864
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,360
okay,

1865
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,240
we're getting close here.

1866
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,720
>> and I remember

1867
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,720
you

1868
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,200
and I was here tuesday. I sent you

1869
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,200
four

1870
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,720
images today and this is the image

1871
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,720
of what 500 feet looks like. Barely

1872
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,720
12 homes. It's nice that

1873
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,720
it is a courtesy. And I sent each

1874
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,720
of you a picture of

1875
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,720
that sign

1876
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,720
that is sitting on the front

1877
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,720
of the property. The only

1878
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,720
reason that we have people in

1879
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,720
this room

1880
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,720
tonight because I went door to door and it shouldn't

1881
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,720
be my job out there to convey information

1882
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,720
to my neighbors, but it is important and

1883
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,120
as you can see

1884
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,720
by the few that are here, it

1885
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,720
san important issue. I requested

1886
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:48,720
a couple of things. When I was here

1887
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,720
on tuesday, I gave each

1888
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,720
of you a packet. Now inside that

1889
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,720
had packet, I don't think

1890
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,320
that there were emotional issues. These

1891
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,720
are things that

1892
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,720
are listed by fema and the

1893
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,720
fact that this property is in the

1894
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,720
middle

1895
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,720
of the high risk area should be a consideration. You're

1896
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,720
saying

1897
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,720
it's in the 43 houses. That's fine. But

1898
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,920
they're

1899
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,720
requesting the opportunity for an

1900
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,120
ful change that will

1901
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,720
put 15 houses per acre.

1902
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,720
and I'm just saying when we did the

1903
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,720
comp plan back

1904
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,720
40 years ago, I'm not sure they

1905
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,720
really thought

1906
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,800
about the floodplains,

1907
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:34,720
the coastal hazard areas. I have talked

1908
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,720
to

1909
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,720
john smith and this is not a good

1910
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:40,720
idea really honestly in any shape

1911
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,120
or form. I would

1912
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,720
love to talk to mr. Moia.

1913
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,720
but the thing is in order

1914
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,320
to do that, the neighborhoods need

1915
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,720
to know that it is

1916
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,400
happening. And sorry, I went

1917
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,720
home on tuesday with no voice. And it's

1918
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,720
an request because on tuesday night,

1919
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,720
I was

1920
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,720
asked to what end? Why am I here? What

1921
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:11,520
do I want to convey? Number one, I

1922
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,680
do not believe in any way that adequate

1923
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,680
notice regarding the proposal was provided to

1924
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:18,680
the neighbors or I provided proof and

1925
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,680
it

1926
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,680
is in all of your e-mails.

1927
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,680
>> I know the rules, I'm

1928
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,680
sorry. I believe that the relationship with

1929
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,680
the

1930
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,680
zoning board might

1931
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,680
have complicated things. Because you're

1932
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,680
willing

1933
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,680
to apologize, but the irony is

1934
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,680
in the item

1935
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,680
that they went through the floodplains

1936
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,680
and all the issues with the soils,

1937
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,680
whereas in this, it san eight-page

1938
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,680
thing that they forgot to

1939
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,680
mention that it is a floodplain and

1940
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,800
provided pictures of it

1941
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,480
in color for you in

1942
01:10:58,480 --> 01:10:59,680
e-mail. Please, please, please. I'm not asking

1943
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,680
for you to kill it. I would love for

1944
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,680
you

1945
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,680
to kill it right now. But I'm asking

1946
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,840
that it goes back to the board and

1947
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,680
that we advertise it correctly. I

1948
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,240
would like to see more

1949
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,680
people get involved with this. It's not a big ask.

1950
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,680
>> you got a minute and 44 seconds left?

1951
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,680
>> do

1952
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,680
you have any questions? Do you

1953
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,400
want me to show you images? And we're

1954
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,160
here to listen to you.

1955
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:24,680
>> well actually

1956
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,120
I sent

1957
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,680
them all information about the insurance and

1958
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,800
what is going on

1959
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,680
in lee county and what's happening from

1960
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,680
fema as we went from a class 7 to

1961
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,680
a class

1962
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,680
8. We are costing our residents more

1963
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,680
in

1964
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,680
flood insurance. And if we do not

1965
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,680
start to properly manage our floodplains. If

1966
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,680
we do not

1967
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,680
properly consider what our wetlands

1968
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,680
are for. Listen,

1969
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:48,680
wetlands to a barrier island is what

1970
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,720
a barrier

1971
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,680
island is to the mainland. And it

1972
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,680
is a form of protection.

1973
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,960
no matter how much you think

1974
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,680
you'll put a pond in. It's not going

1975
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,680
to do

1976
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,680
the same thing as what mother nature is capable of doing.

1977
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,680
I hope

1978
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,680
you consider it. I'm not telling

1979
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,680
you what I think is, this

1980
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,680
is what

1981
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,680
is, all right? Just readvertise it where

1982
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,680
the sign actually

1983
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,680
stands up and you can

1984
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,680
see it. And do you mind if

1985
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,680
I give

1986
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,840
you this?

1987
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,240
>> no, go ahead. >> okay.

1988
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,680
thank

1989
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,680
you for your -- I'll submit

1990
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,680
this to the clerk. Okay, any discussion from the board?

1991
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,680
>> oh my

1992
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,840
goodness. Sandra sullivan. How

1993
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,400
could I miss you? Come up, please.

1994
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,680
>> it is almost like it's

1995
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,680
on purpose at this point. Sandra sullivan. Okay,

1996
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,680
so as you

1997
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:57,680
know, I'm very passionate about the

1998
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,680
barrier island,

1999
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,680
I live on it. Our lives depend

2000
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,800
on protecting the barrier

2001
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,160
island for evacuation. I've come out

2002
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,160
here

2003
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,680
for

2004
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,680
numerous times. This is

2005
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,680
a public safety, life safety issue. And

2006
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,680
I have

2007
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,680
been coming here as you

2008
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,680
defer to whose district it is, so

2009
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,680
I want to remind you on that

2010
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,680
and according

2011
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,680
to the studies. We are

2012
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,800
56.6 hours, to evacuate the

2013
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:37,880
barrier islands in

2014
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,680
a category 5 hurricane. We are lucky

2015
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,680
that we have not been hit by

2016
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,680
one and we did not get hit by it

2017
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,680
and not to say that we won't

2018
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,680
get hit

2019
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,680
by another one. It's not

2020
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,680
if, but when. And to

2021
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,280
get off? We have

2022
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,680
flooding issues, where some haven't

2023
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,680
been able to go and they had to use this road.

2024
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,680
and

2025
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,680
then I wanted to talk about your

2026
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,680
comprehensive plan in not increasing

2027
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,680
density on

2028
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:18,680
the coastal high hazard area. I also

2029
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,680
want

2030
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,680
to read this

2031
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,800
article that came out

2032
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,680
today. The emergency management agency confirmed,

2033
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,680
wait a

2034
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,480
second here. Earlier this year, stripping cape coral.

2035
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,800
fort myers beach. 25% flood

2036
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,800
insurance discounts. Under the

2037
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,680
federal flood insurance

2038
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,680
program, the county has an agreement

2039
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
with this federal agency in

2040
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,680
order to get discounts. You are suppose

2041
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:00,680
to be protecting the floodplain. You're

2042
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,680
suppose to

2043
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,680
be. But what I'm seeing is you're not

2044
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,680
and

2045
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:06,680
we're going to end up like lee county

2046
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,680
where

2047
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,280
we're going to be on top of all the other

2048
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,280
insurance

2049
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,200
crisis that we're dealing with. You're

2050
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,200
going

2051
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,680
to cause people to suffer more with

2052
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,680
even higher increases. And so

2053
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,280
not only are you potentially endangering

2054
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,680
lives for

2055
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,680
evacuation because we cannot get off because

2056
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,680
of the growth at 98% capacity

2057
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,680
to get off the causeway. But

2058
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,800
now the appropriate place

2059
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,680
to put kids that are

2060
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:40,320
coming out is on the main lands, and

2061
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,320
I also want

2062
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,800
to read from the

2063
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,680
staff reports on this that

2064
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,680
says that the closest management segment to

2065
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,680
the subject property is on courtney

2066
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,120
parkway between south tropical trail

2067
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,120
to

2068
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,280
banana boulevard, which has an acceptable

2069
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,680
level of service of e.

2070
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,880
some

2071
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,680
of the people here have discussed

2072
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,680
traffic issues

2073
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,680
in that area as well. And the key

2074
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,680
issue

2075
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,280
is the evacuation and not putting

2076
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,680
more density on the high

2077
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,680
hazard area and to

2078
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,280
protect the floodplain as you're required

2079
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,680
to do under the flood program.

2080
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,000
and that as affordable

2081
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,400
housing, they're waiving their impact fees,

2082
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,680
and so that will be burden by the people

2083
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,240
as well. Thank you.

2084
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,240
>>

2085
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,280
thank you very much. Mark rosen?

2086
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,680
>> good evening.

2087
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,920
so

2088
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,680
I found out at the last minute because

2089
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,680
of

2090
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,680
the way your rules work, which I came

2091
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,680
-- [ inaudible

2092
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,680
] I came from

2093
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:04,680
dade county, born and raised floridian. We

2094
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,400
do

2095
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,640
things differently there and people participate.

2096
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:11,840
I live on 360

2097
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,200
banana boulevard. So I don't know

2098
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,440
enough about the floodplains

2099
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:15,680
and all the technicalities, so I'm

2100
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,680
not going to pretend to do it, but

2101
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,680
I support

2102
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,680
it. If they exist, they should be abided by. But

2103
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,680
I

2104
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,680
can tell you that traffic is a real issue with the schools.

2105
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,680
I

2106
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,680
can't even get out onto courtney

2107
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,680
in the morning

2108
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,680
during school sessions on jefferson. You

2109
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:35,920
can

2110
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,680
go around or wait for courteous people

2111
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,680
a lot

2112
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,480
better here than they are in miami. People

2113
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,680
line up on banana boulevard from almost

2114
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,680
a block and

2115
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,680
a half, two blocks. Morning and evening.

2116
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,680
now

2117
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,680
they're going to

2118
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:58,680
add more congestion to congested area,

2119
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,680
which

2120
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:01,680
is a concern to me and a safety hazard. So

2121
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,680
I would

2122
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,680
say was there any kind of impact

2123
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,680
study done to understand what it will

2124
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,680
be? And

2125
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,680
how that's going to

2126
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,200
be safe for people, you know, that

2127
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,680
we don't think anyone wants that traffic light.

2128
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:19,680
and due to increased population. That people

2129
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,680
and

2130
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,680
so has that been considered? And if

2131
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,680
it

2132
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,680
isn't, would you kindly do

2133
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,680
it? Because we live there. And

2134
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,680
as people who do. Thank you.

2135
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,680
>> paul hoskins?

2136
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,680
>> I live on

2137
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,680
hibiscus boulevard, the

2138
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:55,680
road north of that. I'm thinking they

2139
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,800
could put 48 houses out

2140
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,680
there and that is wrong, it's

2141
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,680
48 units, so I'm glad that's clarified. But

2142
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,680
you

2143
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:05,840
see all

2144
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,680
these apartment buildings popping

2145
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,680
up everywhere and any way, you

2146
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,200
know, I guess I would like to know

2147
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,200
what's

2148
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,400
going on and I appreciate the

2149
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,640
500-foot notice, but that is ridiculous.

2150
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,680
and it

2151
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:22,680
is in your policy, whatever, but it

2152
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,680
would be nice to

2153
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:25,680
know what they are really going to

2154
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,680
do

2155
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:28,680
there. Is that a four-story building, five

2156
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,680
story? I

2157
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:32,160
don't know, you know. I guess I can't

2158
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,160
ask

2159
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,920
them. And I'm learning your

2160
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,680
rules here. That's my concern. I would

2161
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,680
like to know what's going on, that's

2162
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,480
all. >> we appreciate you sharing your

2163
01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:44,160
comments. Anything else? >> I have four minutes to spare.

2164
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,680
>> and commissioner goodson, this is your district.

2165
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:52,680
>> and chairman, I would like to bring bruce back up.

2166
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,320
bruce the site is 2.9 acres.

2167
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,240
could you tell us --

2168
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,600
give me the process to get plans approved.

2169
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:18,760
>> in the county, we create the plan drawings and engineer

2170
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,400
the stormwater, comply with floodplain, traffic study,

2171
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,720
environmental study,

2172
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,720
surveys of property

2173
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,280
and coordinate with utilty company for water and sewer.

2174
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,280
so...

2175
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,760
and I wanted to say this as a part of

2176
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,680
the discussion or not, but it

2177
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,360
is irrelevant of the zoning and they could go

2178
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,960
and develop this right now [ inaudible ]

2179
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,800
it will be limited to meet your rules

2180
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,800
and the floodplain rules

2181
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,800
are stringent, which is why you have

2182
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,800
the good grades you have because

2183
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,360
of your rules not because of what

2184
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,760
will get constructed. [ inaudible ]

2185
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,760
>> and come back again. Just an average. >>

2186
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:35,240
I can't even tell you how many times

2187
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:36,760
that

2188
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,760
happens, every time and multiple times

2189
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:38,840
on every project,

2190
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,240
yes, sir.

2191
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:40,760
>> and so they are very efficient in

2192
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,760
making

2193
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,400
sure you act right?

2194
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:45,760
>> yes, sir, absolutely. >> okay, I

2195
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:46,760
thought so too. The other issue, just

2196
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,760
asking, the church

2197
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,640
is there now, right?

2198
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:49,960
>> yes, sir. >>

2199
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,760
is that church going to remain or

2200
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,480
do you not know?

2201
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,480
>> it will

2202
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:56,240
not come down, it will come down. If

2203
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,760
you

2204
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:58,760
had 2.29 acres and retention that

2205
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,760
you need to hold on to

2206
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,160
your property for 24 hours,

2207
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,760
how much of that

2208
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,360
2.92 gets developed usually of what percentage

2209
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:11,320
of an acre gets developed?

2210
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,320
>>

2211
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,760
you have restrictions that you

2212
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,760
cannot go above that and

2213
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:21,960
a site has 28%

2214
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,760
devoted for stormwater retention.

2215
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,640
>> and you

2216
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:26,240
have no intentions of mitigating?

2217
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:26,760
>> I

2218
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,760
don't

2219
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,760
know if there are, we don't

2220
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,760
know that yet. We have

2221
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,720
not done that study. But we don't impact

2222
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:38,280
anything that we are not allowed to.

2223
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:38,760
>>

2224
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,760
and

2225
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,760
I know that traffic is a concern,

2226
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,760
which makes

2227
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,760
this a great project because most

2228
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,760
of these kids don't drive. So this

2229
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,760
is not

2230
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:50,760
typical where you see that is being

2231
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,000
restricted

2232
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,760
all over the place where everybody has

2233
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,760
two cars. That's not

2234
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:55,360
what's going to happen here.

2235
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,760
>> thank

2236
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:57,560
you, chair.

2237
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:58,760
>> do you have

2238
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,240
a motion?

2239
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,760
>> I would like to move. >> I'm sorry.

2240
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,760
>> the light is on and somebody is home.

2241
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,760
>> thank you. Go ahead, commissioner pritchett. >>

2242
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,760
I

2243
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,760
do know from the notes that right

2244
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,760
now, there could be 133 trips, and

2245
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,760
then you're removing the church as

2246
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,760
well and churches typically have

2247
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:17,760
a lot of traffic too. Just another

2248
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,400
comfort

2249
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,760
thing is that they're going to have

2250
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,000
to do a lot of hoop

2251
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,760
jumping here to still get the project

2252
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:24,920
done, and I'm sure you're going

2253
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,760
to sit with the community then at

2254
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,760
that time and

2255
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,760
let them know what you're designing and

2256
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,760
planning. As

2257
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,760
far as the parameter of what we sent

2258
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,760
out notices

2259
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,760
for is what we have always

2260
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,760
done. If the board deems to have another

2261
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,920
consideration to expand that. That has been

2262
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:41,760
an add went amount that we've never

2263
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:42,920
had that problem

2264
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,760
in the past. So I want to mention

2265
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,000
that it is not new

2266
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,760
for this project and the staff has

2267
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,760
add wently done

2268
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,400
a great job again. That's all I want

2269
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:53,960
to say, sir.

2270
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:54,760
>>

2271
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,480
thank you, commissioner.

2272
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:56,760
>> yes, I

2273
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,000
would like to make a motion that

2274
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,760
we will approve this and the change

2275
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,760
of zoning

2276
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,760
and the classification

2277
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,400
through the inl to ru2-15.

2278
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,400
>> is

2279
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:09,680
there a second?

2280
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,680
>> second. >>

2281
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,520
is there

2282
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:14,800
a discussion? Hearing no discussion.

2283
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:14,560
>>

2284
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,120
aye.

2285
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:15,760
>>

2286
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,680
motion carries.

2287
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,800
>> thank you very much.

2288
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,360
>> and whose card would that be?

2289
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,760
>> beth. >> your name is beth? >>

2290
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,760
yeah, I

2291
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,160
filled out a card.

2292
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,760
>> you can go ahead and

2293
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:50,760
come on up, but I believe we haven't taken

2294
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,760
a

2295
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,760
vote yet, have we? Okay, come on

2296
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:00,560
up. Let's hear what you have to say.

2297
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,160
>> thank you. That's okay.

2298
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,760
>> just one moment, ma'am. Will

2299
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:08,760
you reon the part public hearing on

2300
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,520
the item?

2301
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,520
>> yes, sir.

2302
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:12,280
>> is there a motion to reopen the

2303
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,120
public

2304
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,160
hearing?

2305
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:14,760
>> so moved. >> is there

2306
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:15,320
a second?

2307
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,320
>>

2308
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,400
I'll second.

2309
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,400
>> signify by

2310
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,280
saying aye.

2311
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:20,760
>> aye. >> opposed nay? Thank

2312
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,760
you very

2313
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,680
much.

2314
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,760
>> my name is beth.

2315
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,760
I'm

2316
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,760
retired from

2317
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,760
federal government, which don't

2318
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,760
mean much. And what I thought was

2319
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,760
pertinent that he's

2320
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,760
not sure about

2321
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,760
the wetlands. When it rains, I always

2322
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,360
notice this when I'm driving, the

2323
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,760
water never

2324
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,760
goes away for weeks, weeks,

2325
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:53,760
weeks, it just sits there. It is a

2326
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,760
wetland and

2327
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,400
I can't imagine anybody that is

2328
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,760
building anything on that and there

2329
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,760
is no reason to do that.

2330
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,760
and as far as they don't have

2331
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,160
vehicles, somebody has to

2332
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,760
take these people to

2333
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:11,760
doctors or whatever, to the grocery, whatever. It

2334
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,760
will add

2335
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:14,760
more traffic that I personally don't

2336
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,160
even go that direction

2337
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,760
when I walk, drive down banana boulevard. I

2338
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,760
have to turn and

2339
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:23,760
make another trip because the traffic

2340
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,760
all day long

2341
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,760
now is getting worse. And I didn't

2342
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,760
know myself, who do I contact to tell

2343
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:33,440
somebody that hey, it's getting worse

2344
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:34,760
out here. I've

2345
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,760
seen two children almost get hit by

2346
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,760
cars,

2347
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,760
which is just because there are

2348
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,760
so many people. And like the one gentlemen

2349
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,760
said, people are

2350
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,760
lining

2351
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:47,760
up on the streets. It is ridiculous. Thank you so

2352
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,760
much for what you do.

2353
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,760
I believe in the government.

2354
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,760
and thank you so much,

2355
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,760
I have lived here for ten years. I'm

2356
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,760
not going

2357
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:03,400
back to ohio, I do love ohio.

2358
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,760
>> I'm sorry we missed your card.

2359
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,760
>> in

2360
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,760
light of those additional comments,

2361
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:11,760
and I apologize, but take that vote

2362
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,760
again,

2363
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,480
please.

2364
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,480
>> we have

2365
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:18,320
not taken a vote yet.

2366
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,320
>>

2367
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,760
okay. I would like to make

2368
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,760
a motion that we approve

2369
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,760
this and

2370
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,760
I

2371
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:35,760
can't find it, okay. Okay, thank you,

2372
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,320
thank you.

2373
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,320
>>

2374
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,760
it is a motion on h14.

2375
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,760
24200014.

2376
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,760
okay, is there any discussion?

2377
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,760
commissioner feltner?

2378
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,760
[ inaudible ]

2379
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,760
there's

2380
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,760
a motion by commissioner goodson,

2381
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,760
second by commissioner

2382
01:27:58,760 --> 01:27:59,760
pritchett. No more discussion. All in

2383
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,760
favor signify by

2384
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,320
saying aye?

2385
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,320
>>

2386
01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:06,280
aye.

2387
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,760
>> the motion

2388
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,760
carries. Okay, thank you. Let's go on to h15.

2389
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,760
jeff, please.

2390
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,760
>> scott

2391
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,160
martin requests a change

2392
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,760
of zoning classification from bu-1

2393
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,760
and ru-2-15 to all ru-2-15,

2394
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,760
24z00015, tax account number

2395
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:29,760
is 2520270, located in district 2.

2396
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,760
>> okay.

2397
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,760
is the applicant here? Scott?

2398
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,760
scott martin? All right, so you just

2399
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:41,760
sit right there for a second, scott. Let's

2400
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,760
turn it

2401
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,760
over to commissioner goodson for

2402
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:49,000
his analysis of this. It

2403
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,760
is his district. Commissioner? With

2404
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:51,720
a say you?

2405
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,760
>> I have no conflict.

2406
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,760
>> okay. >> you might be off the

2407
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,760
hook, but let's try. Is there a motion

2408
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:58,520
to approve?

2409
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,520
>> I'd like

2410
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,760
to make a

2411
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,320
motion, mr. Chair, to approve. >> is there a second?

2412
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,320
>> second.

2413
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,760
>> motioned by commissioner goodson,

2414
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,760
seconded by commissioner tobia. Any

2415
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,160
discussion? There is no

2416
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,760
cards out there. I think. Okay. All

2417
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:21,760
in favor? Motion carries. Thank you

2418
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:22,320
so much.

2419
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,320
>>

2420
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,160
see ya, scott.

2421
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:25,760
>>

2422
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,720
thank you.

2423
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:27,760
>>> all right, let's go

2424
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,480
to

2425
01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:30,400
the next one.

2426
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,760
>> h16 is brevard county

2427
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,760
board of county commissioners requests a

2428
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,160
change of zoning classification

2429
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,760
from au with the cup

2430
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,760
and gml to all gml institutional

2431
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,160
with the removal of

2432
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,760
a cup, application

2433
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,760
number 24z00017, tax

2434
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:51,760
account number 2055557, located in

2435
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,480
district two. >> okay, commissioner goodson?

2436
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:54,760
>> I have

2437
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,760
no issue of this. I would

2438
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,760
make a motion

2439
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,760
for approval. And that is

2440
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,360
the sheriff's farm.

2441
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,760
>> there

2442
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,760
is a motion by commissioner goodson

2443
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,760
and any discussion? Hearing no discussion,

2444
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,160
all in favor signify

2445
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,160
by

2446
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,760
saying aye? All opposed nays? Motion carries.

2447
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,760
you're up,

2448
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,240
jeff.

2449
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,760
>> h17 is borrows west suite developers,

2450
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:22,920
llc, requests a cup for

2451
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,320
on-premises consumption of alcohol

2452
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,000
in a pud

2453
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,760
zoning classification. Application

2454
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,760
number

2455
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,760
24z00019, tax account number 3030134,

2456
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,280
located in district

2457
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:34,800
four.

2458
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:35,760
>> commissioner feltner? >>

2459
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:36,400
I make a motion to approve.

2460
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,400
>> is

2461
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:40,480
there a second?

2462
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:42,480
>> second.

2463
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,160
>> motioned by

2464
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,760
commissioner feltner, seconded by commissioner

2465
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,160
tobia. Any discussion? Hearing

2466
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,760
no discussion,

2467
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,760
all

2468
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:55,960
in favor?

2469
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:56,920
>> aye. >> all opposed? The motion carries.

2470
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,760
>> h18, walter chlewicki requests

2471
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,760
a

2472
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,760
change of zoning classification from

2473
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,760
ru-1-13

2474
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,760
to ru-2-4 with a bdp. The

2475
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,400
application is requested to be tabled

2476
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,760
to allow readvertising the applicant

2477
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,760
who did not appear at the pnz meeting.

2478
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,680
>> okay, so we don't

2479
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:15,280
need to do anything on this?

2480
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:15,760
>> this

2481
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,760
will be

2482
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:17,880
readvertised.

2483
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:18,760
>> okay. So that one is done.

2484
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,760
okay.

2485
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,760
>> all right,

2486
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,360
we have any unfinished business? We

2487
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,760
have some public comments. Sullivan?

2488
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,960
and it is a 9:00 a.m. Meeting.

2489
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,760
and to bring this forward.

2490
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,160
and they are leaving.

2491
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,760
and our current lagoon decision should be with the commissioners.

2492
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,360
and for the next ten years.

2493
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,760
and with

2494
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:00,760
no burden to make poor decisions to

2495
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,760
not fix what is wrong.

2496
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:09,760
and the voters this year and that

2497
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,760
I

2498
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:12,760
believe the decision of the commissioners will

2499
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,760
go on

2500
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:20,160
in district three and district five without burdening them.

2501
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,760
and the strive.

2502
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,560
the money that were paid for the fund.

2503
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,760
and now weaponized.

2504
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,960
and of $50 million down to palm bay.

2505
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,760
and the modification.

2506
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:21,560
and so we know what will happen and that will end up there.

2507
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,760
and the commissioners that are

2508
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:32,160
coming in here and the conflict of interest issues.

2509
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,160
and the infrastructure tax, 2.775.

2510
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,480
[ inaudible ]

2511
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,920
>> stella snooks?

2512
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,520
>> good day, county staff. I'm steven

2513
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,920
snooks, born here

2514
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:27,680
at cape canaveral. And I'm looking

2515
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,680
to improve brevard

2516
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,920
county as best as I

2517
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,920
can and we have cruise

2518
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,120
ships coming to town twice a week

2519
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,920
on schedule for one shift. And

2520
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:45,920
so we have them coming to town and

2521
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:47,160
what do

2522
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,760
they do? They come here. [ inaudible ]

2523
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,960
they leave

2524
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,160
here. They go to orlando and they

2525
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,320
seek enjoyment and things

2526
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,920
like that and so it's to central florida.

2527
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:08,320
and if they wanted to increase revenue and profits.

2528
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,520
>> and to have a competition course constructed in

2529
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,920
the northwest sector and

2530
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,680
in the '05, '06, '07.

2531
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,680
and 16, 17, 18 parcels. It is a

2532
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,800
lot of land out

2533
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,400
that way. Currently it is owned by

2534
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,400
the miami alternatives, the llc. And

2535
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,400
about 10,

2536
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:46,400
12 acres out there to my record search

2537
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,400
and I

2538
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,800
was able to find

2539
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,400
one payment on all those.

2540
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,400
and so this

2541
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,400
is in great conflict to the

2542
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:08,760
plans to bring

2543
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:09,640
profit through entertainment for brevard

2544
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,240
county as 10, 12 acres going to the

2545
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,600
area would

2546
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,400
mean a proposal for residentials housing,

2547
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,400
things of that nature. And you could

2548
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,400
imagine the competition course and

2549
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:22,400
next to the residential areas, they would

2550
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,400
not be a

2551
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,400
great thing that there would be noise

2552
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:28,400
complaints and such. As this area

2553
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:29,600
is still

2554
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,400
untouched, there's been no ground

2555
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,400
broken for the

2556
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,400
name of this company, and their

2557
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,400
pursuit for over 12 years. That tells

2558
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,720
me that

2559
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,400
they are stalemating the efforts of brevard

2560
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,800
county to have growth.

2561
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,400
I would like

2562
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,400
the county to consider to put in

2563
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:49,400
land near this development into a

2564
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,400
land trust, so

2565
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,400
that way their stalemating can be

2566
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,800
combated with putting land

2567
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,400
into

2568
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,400
a trust that could then

2569
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:01,400
have the investors confidence in following

2570
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,400
through with

2571
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,400
contributing more funds

2572
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,760
to this land trust to then develop the

2573
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,760
competition courses for brevard county.

2574
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,400
and at this point, I would

2575
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,400
like to

2576
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,800
be in touch with

2577
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:21,640
frank abbate to complete that task.

2578
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,400
>>

2579
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:22,960
thank you, steven.

2580
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,960
>>

2581
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,360
can I ask a question? When you say

2582
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,400
competition course? What is

2583
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:28,960
that? What does that entail?

2584
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,960
>>

2585
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,400
competition

2586
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,400
course would be a street

2587
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:40,400
course, a drag strip, a dirt course,

2588
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,400
a pump track, which would be

2589
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,400
for bmx, bikes, and such. And this

2590
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,400
would

2591
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,400
be on the scale of olympic

2592
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,400
level tracks for all the

2593
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,400
respective sports,

2594
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:56,800
and also to include aerial

2595
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,400
tracks, the scaled down for first person view

2596
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,400
racing. I think that would be

2597
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:01,880
more of a hit for the kids to be able

2598
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,400
to learn

2599
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:08,440
racing before they would get into a vehicle themselves.

2600
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,400
it's great because it's not

2601
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,400
causing the hazard or the risk to

2602
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,400
nasa and things

2603
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,400
of that nature, which will have no fly

2604
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:17,400
zones.

2605
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:17,600
>> I'm

2606
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,400
curious of the drag strip. How long

2607
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,400
does that have

2608
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,400
to be

2609
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:26,000
in that modern era?

2610
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,000
>> other tracks are comparable to quarter

2611
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,000
miles, half mile. The street course,

2612
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,000
they could take up as

2613
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,000
much as 100

2614
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,000
acres. I would feel to

2615
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,000
include each and every track. 500

2616
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,000
acres

2617
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,000
to a thousand acres would be the

2618
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,600
absolute bare minimum and then you

2619
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,000
would have to include the

2620
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:52,480
parking infrastructure, the frontage

2621
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,000
for

2622
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,000
stores, things of that nature. So

2623
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,400
I feel that it

2624
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,400
would be a great

2625
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,400
starting

2626
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:03,520
bid for potentially getting brevard county

2627
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:04,800
into land approved to be better.

2628
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:05,000
>>

2629
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:05,760
not that far away from us?

2630
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,760
>> correct.

2631
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,400
>> and it is primarily

2632
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000
only a quarter mile track. This would

2633
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,000
not include street courses, dirt courses, aerial courses. And

2634
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,000
I've reached out to them to see if

2635
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,000
they would like to expand their mission

2636
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:25,680
and to include partnerships that would

2637
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,680
help assemble

2638
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:28,480
that. And they denied that. They have no

2639
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:30,480
aim

2640
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:31,480
for growth and they are also not in

2641
01:40:31,480 --> 01:40:33,000
brevard county. So

2642
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,000
the revenue and those events would still be lost.

2643
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,000
>> thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. >>

2644
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,400
any other questions?

2645
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:39,880
>> commissioner pritchett,

2646
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,880
do you have a question?

2647
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,320
>> I think that it sounds like a very fun idea. So I

2648
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,320
think if

2649
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,320
you will go out and find

2650
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:55,320
investors and you can start working

2651
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,320
on that. And then we could

2652
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:58,320
get a plan. I might be willing to

2653
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,720
consider zoning changes, but

2654
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,800
you'll need to go out first to find

2655
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:03,320
some investors and

2656
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:04,200
find some funds.

2657
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:04,560
>> certainly. >>

2658
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:09,360
thank you. That's all I wanted to say.

2659
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,320
>> okay, thank you, steven. >>

2660
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:12,120
thank you very kindly.

2661
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:13,320
>> all right.

2662
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,320
board reports?

2663
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,320
county manager?

2664
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,720
>> I have no report.

2665
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:23,120
>> county attorney? >> no report,

2666
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,800
mr. Chair.

2667
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:25,320
>> commissioner pritchett? >> thank you, sir.

2668
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,320
I did

2669
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:28,320
want to just mention one thing that

2670
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,320
we just came

2671
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:31,320
out of a very heated meeting. And

2672
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,320
I do

2673
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,320
understand that people needed a need

2674
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:37,320
to say what they needed to say and

2675
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,720
I totally get it

2676
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,320
and that

2677
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,320
we

2678
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,320
would

2679
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,320
put up the civility. That they want

2680
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,320
to state their strong

2681
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:52,560
opinion without yelling at people

2682
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:52,920
or typically getting personal with

2683
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,920
people, so

2684
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,000
I want to commend you on that and that I

2685
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,000
think that we

2686
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:58,920
have a couple of people right now

2687
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:00,920
that will

2688
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,320
be crossing the line as I wanted to mention.

2689
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,320
the personal attack on our staff that

2690
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,320
they don't deserve that as we signed up

2691
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,640
for it and

2692
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,320
that we are thick skinned and we would

2693
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,320
deal with it and

2694
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:17,320
that county staff, it's out of bounds. I

2695
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,320
want

2696
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:20,320
to apologize to all the county staff

2697
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,320
that

2698
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:23,320
would have to deal with that and tay

2699
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,320
kind of caught

2700
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,320
me off guard and I give you my word

2701
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,320
that

2702
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:30,720
I'm going

2703
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,320
to be very strong and proactive of not letting

2704
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,320
you guys ever

2705
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,320
get beat up again like that on personal attacks

2706
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,320
and so

2707
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:39,480
that is what I wanted

2708
01:42:39,480 --> 01:42:41,320
to say. You're wonderful people. I

2709
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:42,560
thank

2710
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,320
you for your integrity and all that you

2711
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,320
do as you

2712
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,320
bring a

2713
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,320
lot to the table. And

2714
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,320
to talk without

2715
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:56,320
being mocked from the front and most

2716
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,520
of the

2717
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:01,120
time that this is happening, they're

2718
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,320
going out there, so you handled

2719
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,320
it beautifully, but I'm getting thin

2720
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:06,840
on the way they're treating you as well. And

2721
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,400
if you want to, you certainly have it.

2722
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,400
>> thank you, commissioner. Commissioner goodson?

2723
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:14,560
>> none, sir.

2724
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,120
>> commissioner tobia? >> no report, mr. Chair.

2725
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,120
>> no report. >>

2726
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,400
commissioner steel? No report. Do I hear

2727
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,200
a motion to adjourn?

2728
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:24,520
>> motion so made.

2729
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,640
>> is there a second? >> I'll second.

2730
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,000
>> all in favor? >> aye.

2731
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,000
>> all opposed? Meeting is adjourned.