1 00:02:12,113 --> 00:02:15,713 >> Please fill out a speaker card. 2 00:02:16,993 --> 00:02:19,503 Each person addressing the board shall have three minutes 3 00:02:19,503 --> 00:02:23,294 to complete his or her comments on each agenda item for which he 4 00:02:23,294 --> 00:02:25,200 or she has filled out a card. 5 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,263 The chair has the discretion to determine or alter the time 6 00:02:28,263 --> 00:02:29,883 limits on any agenda item. 7 00:02:29,883 --> 00:02:32,323 The Board of County Commissioners requests 8 00:02:32,323 --> 00:02:34,360 that speakers appearing under the public Comment 9 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,973 section of the agenda limit their comments or presentations 10 00:02:37,973 --> 00:02:40,107 to matters relating to county business that 11 00:02:40,107 --> 00:02:44,907 are within the board's control, authority, and jurisdiction. 12 00:02:46,283 --> 00:02:49,883 >> Okay our invocation today will be given by doctor Bob 13 00:02:49,883 --> 00:02:50,963 Bostic. 14 00:02:50,963 --> 00:02:54,563 Technically where unable to start till 505 15 00:02:55,256 --> 00:02:56,940 so you have a long floor. 16 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:00,540 You can give a long prayer. 17 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:04,123 Thank you for -- 18 00:03:04,123 --> 00:03:07,883 >> You're welcome let us pray heavenly father God 19 00:03:07,883 --> 00:03:09,923 we're so grateful to be here tonight. 20 00:03:09,923 --> 00:03:12,571 Thank you for your divine protection all day 21 00:03:12,571 --> 00:03:15,596 long and because of you we're here safe. 22 00:03:15,596 --> 00:03:19,243 And God tonight as we enter this meeting, 23 00:03:19,243 --> 00:03:24,430 we ask for your divine understanding and unity. 24 00:03:24,236 --> 00:03:29,636 And we thank you Lord for your divine wisdom. 25 00:03:30,430 --> 00:03:32,430 And God we just give you the glory 26 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,536 for what you're doing within this board. 27 00:03:34,536 --> 00:03:38,736 We pray that you bless them individually. 28 00:03:39,143 --> 00:03:43,949 Bless their families, keep them safe, in Jesus name. 29 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:48,589 And God as a county our children has gone back 30 00:03:48,589 --> 00:03:53,183 to school and Lord, we pray for blessings and protection 31 00:03:53,183 --> 00:03:56,443 for every school and in Brevard County. 32 00:03:56,443 --> 00:03:59,339 God we plead the blood of Jesus over them. 33 00:03:59,339 --> 00:04:04,139 That should keep them safe all year long. 34 00:04:04,155 --> 00:04:08,843 However they get to school, ride the bus, walk, 35 00:04:08,843 --> 00:04:12,571 mother father grandmother take them to school, 36 00:04:12,571 --> 00:04:15,383 God protect them and keep them focused this year 37 00:04:15,383 --> 00:04:18,283 God help them to be attentive. 38 00:04:18,283 --> 00:04:20,590 In the classroom. 39 00:04:20,590 --> 00:04:22,989 Bless the teachers God with divine wisdom. 40 00:04:22,989 --> 00:04:26,665 Help them Lord to help those that are in need 41 00:04:26,665 --> 00:04:29,229 of just a little extra help. 42 00:04:29,229 --> 00:04:31,856 Give to them that insight God. 43 00:04:31,856 --> 00:04:34,949 And we thank you for doing that. 44 00:04:34,949 --> 00:04:37,413 Of course, bless the superintendent. 45 00:04:37,413 --> 00:04:39,413 And his staff. 46 00:04:39,723 --> 00:04:42,576 And we thank you for leading and guiding 47 00:04:42,576 --> 00:04:46,776 them to help us turn this year. 48 00:04:46,823 --> 00:04:50,423 And God, of course our policeman's. 49 00:04:51,443 --> 00:04:53,443 And our firemen's. 50 00:04:53,539 --> 00:04:56,803 And our mayors and city commissioners. 51 00:04:56,803 --> 00:04:58,539 Bless them abundantly. 52 00:04:58,539 --> 00:05:00,939 Keep them as well. 53 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,830 Safe Lord. 54 00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:06,803 As they do their jobs to keep us safe. 55 00:05:06,803 --> 00:05:11,891 And we give you to glory as a whole, as a county, for blessing 56 00:05:11,891 --> 00:05:13,595 this county Lord. 57 00:05:13,595 --> 00:05:18,843 And yes, the United States of America, we pray as a whole. 58 00:05:18,843 --> 00:05:21,103 Bring our troops home safe. 59 00:05:21,103 --> 00:05:24,352 And we just think thank you for what you're doing. 60 00:05:24,352 --> 00:05:26,723 Within us all in Jesus name I pray. 61 00:05:26,723 --> 00:05:27,683 Amen. 62 00:05:27,683 --> 00:05:30,683 >> Amen thank you so appropriate. 63 00:05:30,929 --> 00:05:32,316 School crossing guards are a part 64 00:05:32,316 --> 00:05:34,507 of this budget we're voting on today so. 65 00:05:34,507 --> 00:05:37,507 School prayer is very Appropriate. 66 00:05:37,856 --> 00:05:38,869 Okay. 67 00:05:38,869 --> 00:05:41,269 Today, we'll have -- 68 00:05:43,493 --> 00:05:47,693 Commissioner Bridget lead us in the pledge. 69 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:52,658 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 70 00:05:52,658 --> 00:05:52,668 of America and to the Republic for which it stands, 71 00:05:52,668 --> 00:05:54,850 one nation under God, indivisible, 72 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:57,685 with liberty and justice for all. 73 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,403 Chair Altman: Almost there. 74 00:06:09,403 --> 00:06:11,403 This agenda. 75 00:06:11,763 --> 00:06:15,203 >> Mr. Chair could I make a motion to allow Commissioner 76 00:06:15,203 --> 00:06:17,683 Goodson to participate by phone? 77 00:06:17,683 --> 00:06:19,683 >> I'll second. 78 00:06:21,923 --> 00:06:23,521 Chair Altman: Okay there's a motion 79 00:06:23,521 --> 00:06:25,229 in a second to allow Commissioner Goodson 80 00:06:25,229 --> 00:06:26,611 to participate by phone. 81 00:06:26,611 --> 00:06:29,347 All in favor say aye. 82 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:31,253 Motion carries unanimously. 83 00:06:31,253 --> 00:06:34,323 Okay that works out perfect it's 505. 84 00:06:34,323 --> 00:06:36,723 So we can begin. 85 00:06:37,763 --> 00:06:44,900 So public hearing, we'll start with D1 the item agenda D1. 86 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:44,509 Jim. 87 00:06:44,509 --> 00:06:45,603 Go ahead. 88 00:06:45,603 --> 00:06:48,425 >> All right thank you Mr. Chair. 89 00:06:48,425 --> 00:06:51,278 Item D1 allows for the reading of the tentative aggregate 90 00:06:51,278 --> 00:06:54,703 operated military to fund the portion of the fiscal year 91 00:06:54,703 --> 00:06:56,323 2026 2027 budget. 92 00:06:56,323 --> 00:06:59,410 That is supported by property taxes. 93 00:06:59,410 --> 00:07:00,749 At this time I will ask the Budget Office 94 00:07:00,749 --> 00:07:03,723 to read into the record the tentative aggregate millage rate 95 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:06,123 for FY, fiscal year 2026 2027. 96 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:12,683 >> The aggregate quantitative military for 2026 2027 is 4.7492 97 00:07:14,483 --> 00:07:19,283 the tentative aggregate military represents a 6.12% increase when 98 00:07:19,403 --> 00:07:22,629 compared to the aggregate rollback rate of 4.4753. 99 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:27,429 The tentative aggregate military represents a 5.75% increase when 100 00:07:27,765 --> 00:07:30,923 compared to the current fiscal year 2025 2026 101 00:07:30,923 --> 00:07:32,923 aggregate military of 4.4909. 102 00:07:36,443 --> 00:07:40,189 >> Commissioners as approved by the Board on July 21st 2026, 103 00:07:40,189 --> 00:07:43,543 tentative militias have been set at the rates required to fund 104 00:07:43,543 --> 00:07:44,683 board priorities. 105 00:07:44,683 --> 00:07:46,443 Including the Animal Care Center, 106 00:07:46,443 --> 00:07:49,163 roadway improvements jail infrastructure and other county 107 00:07:49,163 --> 00:07:50,830 facilities. 108 00:07:50,830 --> 00:07:53,830 Additionally tax rates are set to mitigate impacts 109 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:55,109 newly mandated expenses while ensuring reserves 110 00:07:55,109 --> 00:07:56,723 are adequately funded. 111 00:07:56,723 --> 00:08:01,107 Agenda item D2, the board will hear comments from the public 112 00:08:01,107 --> 00:08:03,403 and then discuss the mileages and associated revenue 113 00:08:03,403 --> 00:08:05,403 and agenda item D three. 114 00:08:05,403 --> 00:08:09,619 >> Okay great no vote is required on this point. 115 00:08:09,619 --> 00:08:12,163 Our next item is agenda item d2. 116 00:08:12,163 --> 00:08:15,867 >> All right thank you Mr. Chair item D2 allows for the public 117 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,603 to comment on the revised tentative county budget 118 00:08:18,603 --> 00:08:20,419 for fiscal year 2026 2027. 119 00:08:20,419 --> 00:08:23,919 Before we begin public comment I would ask the Budget Office 120 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:27,843 read into the record the revised tentative budget information. 121 00:08:27,843 --> 00:08:30,843 >> The fiscal year 2026 2027 budget is $2,425,838,420. 122 00:08:33,896 --> 00:08:37,496 This budget represents a decrease of $161,915,446 123 00:08:40,873 --> 00:08:45,730 or 6.2.6 percent less than the fiscal year 2025 2026. 124 00:08:48,673 --> 00:08:50,673 Current budget of $2,587,753,866. 125 00:08:58,163 --> 00:09:02,323 >> And Mr. Chair we are now ready to set public comments 126 00:09:02,323 --> 00:09:05,923 on revised fiscal budget for year 2020 627. 127 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:11,243 >> First comment is Richard Heffelfinger. 128 00:09:18,984 --> 00:09:22,856 >> Good evening couple Jennifer Drive district one. 129 00:09:22,856 --> 00:09:25,696 I'm going to make my final plea to try to help control some 130 00:09:25,696 --> 00:09:27,373 of the costs for our citizens. 131 00:09:27,373 --> 00:09:31,573 I believe that designating the animal facility 132 00:09:31,715 --> 00:09:34,656 is not a critical need or an emergency. 133 00:09:34,656 --> 00:09:37,773 And I would like to ask the board to remove $5 million 134 00:09:37,773 --> 00:09:39,195 designated for that. 135 00:09:39,195 --> 00:09:42,987 From the increase over the proposed millage. 136 00:09:42,987 --> 00:09:44,835 To the General fund. 137 00:09:44,835 --> 00:09:47,139 The reason that I say that it's not critical 138 00:09:47,139 --> 00:09:50,311 is it's an animal care facility that currently is one, 139 00:09:50,311 --> 00:09:52,593 yet it's 30 years old I realize that. 140 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:55,132 But I don't see that as meeting the requirements of being 141 00:09:55,132 --> 00:09:57,238 critical or an emergency need. 142 00:09:57,238 --> 00:10:04,200 I also believe that the animal care facility back in, let's see 143 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:10,620 we had a meeting on -- oh jeez when was it. 144 00:10:11,363 --> 00:10:13,693 Where we had a budget adjustment, 145 00:10:13,693 --> 00:10:15,395 a third quarter budget adjustment. 146 00:10:15,395 --> 00:10:18,235 And it was identified where you guys actually 147 00:10:18,235 --> 00:10:22,273 saw some general fund savings or I shouldn't say savings permit 148 00:10:22,273 --> 00:10:24,264 there were increases due to funds interest 149 00:10:24,264 --> 00:10:26,218 and you applied them at that time 150 00:10:26,218 --> 00:10:27,635 towards some of the stuff that was 151 00:10:27,635 --> 00:10:29,468 identified as critical need in the workshop. 152 00:10:29,468 --> 00:10:31,571 There was also one that identified 153 00:10:31,571 --> 00:10:37,571 at almost $5 million additional increase in what the Sheriff had 154 00:10:37,789 --> 00:10:40,183 in his 410 fund Mstu. 155 00:10:40,183 --> 00:10:43,163 And that has been added to the proposed budget. 156 00:10:43,163 --> 00:10:45,963 It shows that he's got a carry forward now 157 00:10:45,963 --> 00:10:48,750 of it's almost $8 million. 158 00:10:48,750 --> 00:10:51,595 And it shows that only about half of that was allocated, 159 00:10:51,595 --> 00:10:55,403 so there's this almost, that animal shelter 160 00:10:55,403 --> 00:10:58,149 funding in that Mstu fund that's not being expended this year. 161 00:10:58,149 --> 00:11:00,643 I think if it's a critical need and emergency 162 00:11:00,643 --> 00:11:03,243 and since animal care facility falls under the Sheriff, 163 00:11:03,243 --> 00:11:06,870 I believe that he could go back and allocate that money, 164 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:07,823 you could get both things and reduce 165 00:11:07,823 --> 00:11:11,355 the cost in the general fund to the taxpayers. 166 00:11:11,355 --> 00:11:13,396 And that's what I would like to see 167 00:11:13,396 --> 00:11:15,709 happen is a motion to remove the 5 million 168 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:18,155 and then maybe a recommendation to the Sheriff, 169 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:20,300 I don't know who allocates this budget how 170 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:21,251 those decisions are made. 171 00:11:21,251 --> 00:11:22,962 I know you give it to him. 172 00:11:22,962 --> 00:11:26,740 But I would like to see him say that that is a priority 173 00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:28,116 or critical for him since it's under his funding. 174 00:11:28,116 --> 00:11:30,383 And move some of that money that he does have. 175 00:11:30,383 --> 00:11:31,203 Thank you. 176 00:11:31,203 --> 00:11:33,123 >> Thank you. 177 00:11:33,123 --> 00:11:36,123 Dalton Simpson, our next speaker. 178 00:11:41,676 --> 00:11:43,259 >> Hey how are you guys doing tonight? 179 00:11:43,259 --> 00:11:45,406 My name is Dalton Simpson and I'm 180 00:11:45,406 --> 00:11:48,730 coming here to speak to you guys about the Strat League baseball 181 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:48,883 fields. 182 00:11:48,883 --> 00:11:50,560 In cocoa. 183 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:53,181 Recently come on a few pictures and stuff 184 00:11:53,181 --> 00:11:55,483 have been brought to my concern with they 185 00:11:55,483 --> 00:11:58,283 sword, the flooding, and baseball 186 00:11:58,283 --> 00:12:01,120 I believe baseball seasons, if it hasn't already 187 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,179 started it's about to start. 188 00:12:02,179 --> 00:12:04,387 Right now with the heavy rain, it's 189 00:12:04,387 --> 00:12:06,968 starting to cause a lot of flooding, a lot of sod. 190 00:12:06,968 --> 00:12:09,799 I see that you guys and I'm just starting to get into this, 191 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:12,600 I see you guys got like a deal with cocoa 192 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,381 but they're more in supposed to take 193 00:12:14,381 --> 00:12:16,818 care of like the structures and stuff, 194 00:12:16,818 --> 00:12:19,430 and you guys are supposed to maintain 195 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:23,303 the fields and irrigation and then any stuff like that. 196 00:12:23,303 --> 00:12:26,600 So basically, to get started, good evening my name 197 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,183 is Dalton Simpson and I'm here tonight 198 00:12:28,183 --> 00:12:30,533 to speak about the flooding and ongoing conditions 199 00:12:30,533 --> 00:12:32,603 at Strat League baseball fields. 200 00:12:32,603 --> 00:12:36,630 This is about more than what grass or field looking bad, 201 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:39,394 this is about a public facility that our children, families, 202 00:12:39,394 --> 00:12:40,811 coaches and community are supposed 203 00:12:40,811 --> 00:12:42,256 to be able to use safely. 204 00:12:42,256 --> 00:12:43,923 When these fields still flooded they 205 00:12:43,923 --> 00:12:45,683 can't be maintained properly. 206 00:12:45,683 --> 00:12:47,456 Practices and games are affected, 207 00:12:47,456 --> 00:12:49,883 the fields deteriorate and it creates safety concerns 208 00:12:49,883 --> 00:12:51,475 for the kids using them. 209 00:12:51,475 --> 00:12:54,103 What I'm asking the county tonight is simple. 210 00:12:54,103 --> 00:12:54,893 We need answers. 211 00:12:54,893 --> 00:12:58,363 We need to know what is actually causing the flooding, who 212 00:12:58,363 --> 00:13:00,243 is responsible for addressing it, 213 00:13:00,243 --> 00:13:01,778 and what the plan is to fix it. 214 00:13:01,778 --> 00:13:04,805 It is a drainage issue, is there a problem 215 00:13:04,805 --> 00:13:07,313 with the ditches covert swells stormwater? 216 00:13:07,313 --> 00:13:10,675 System or the grading of the property? 217 00:13:10,675 --> 00:13:11,539 I'm sorry. 218 00:13:11,539 --> 00:13:13,643 I'm a little nervous. 219 00:13:13,643 --> 00:13:15,643 >> You're doing great. 220 00:13:18,830 --> 00:13:20,483 You're finding your way. 221 00:13:21,283 --> 00:13:26,763 Maybe -- I have seen pictures of strategy as it's a mess and it 222 00:13:26,763 --> 00:13:27,585 is a public safety. 223 00:13:27,585 --> 00:13:28,983 I feel bad for those kids. 224 00:13:28,983 --> 00:13:30,563 Jim did you? 225 00:13:30,563 --> 00:13:34,255 >> Mr. Simpson I haven't read it but I saw part of the email 226 00:13:34,255 --> 00:13:36,963 and an email chain going through our parks folks have worked with 227 00:13:36,963 --> 00:13:39,230 the City of Cocoa in a bunch of issues. 228 00:13:39,230 --> 00:13:42,123 Flooding was in there, septic to sewer was in there. 229 00:13:42,123 --> 00:13:45,334 And that gentleman right there, where is he. 230 00:13:45,334 --> 00:13:48,304 Ian gonna if you want to meet with him as soon as you're 231 00:13:48,304 --> 00:13:51,123 done speaking, he can give you an update on what's going on. 232 00:13:51,123 --> 00:13:54,713 >> I've seen his name too and I also see you guys lost a lot 233 00:13:54,713 --> 00:13:58,403 of money these past few years on that part of funding to. 234 00:13:58,403 --> 00:14:00,900 So this is the thing. 235 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:04,900 I don't -- I play baseball there my mom did as well. 236 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:05,380 My child's young right now. 237 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:06,923 I just see a lot of people talking about it 238 00:14:06,923 --> 00:14:08,663 but that's all they do is talk on the internet. 239 00:14:08,663 --> 00:14:10,349 I wanted to show them this is where you come 240 00:14:10,349 --> 00:14:12,141 and where if you want to see changes happen 241 00:14:12,141 --> 00:14:13,453 this is where you got to do it. 242 00:14:13,453 --> 00:14:15,328 So I appreciate you guys giving me that time. 243 00:14:15,328 --> 00:14:17,810 I found my spot if you want me to finish. 244 00:14:17,810 --> 00:14:20,399 If not -- I apologize. 245 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,573 So pretty much here it is. 246 00:14:22,573 --> 00:14:24,973 This is the ending. 247 00:14:27,523 --> 00:14:29,797 And grading the property. 248 00:14:29,797 --> 00:14:31,755 Whatever the cause is I'm asking for the county 249 00:14:31,755 --> 00:14:35,750 to inspect the problem, give the community a clear answer, 250 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,503 our kids deserve a safe playable baseball field, 251 00:14:37,503 --> 00:14:40,511 the coaches and parents who volunteer their time 252 00:14:40,511 --> 00:14:42,539 deserve better and the taxpayers deserve 253 00:14:42,539 --> 00:14:45,203 to know that our parks and recreational facilities 254 00:14:45,203 --> 00:14:46,315 are being maintained. 255 00:14:46,315 --> 00:14:48,643 I'm not here tonight just to complain, 256 00:14:48,643 --> 00:14:51,371 I'm here because I want to help get something done. 257 00:14:51,371 --> 00:14:53,643 So I'm asking the county to identify 258 00:14:53,643 --> 00:14:57,196 the department responsible, which you just did, 259 00:14:57,196 --> 00:14:58,696 and inspect the flooding engineering 260 00:14:58,696 --> 00:15:00,659 conditions at Bradley Park and provide 261 00:15:00,659 --> 00:15:03,103 the community with a real plan and timeline 262 00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:04,307 for correcting the problem. 263 00:15:04,307 --> 00:15:06,853 A lot of people in the community care about these fields 264 00:15:06,853 --> 00:15:08,476 and we're paying attention. 265 00:15:08,476 --> 00:15:12,555 We just want to see strategy become safe, usable baseball 266 00:15:12,555 --> 00:15:14,740 field for our kids and before I finish 267 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:17,547 I want to say rest in peace coach Keith Warden 268 00:15:17,547 --> 00:15:20,549 his impact on these kids in this baseball community 269 00:15:20,549 --> 00:15:21,549 should not be forgotten. 270 00:15:21,549 --> 00:15:22,643 Thank you. 271 00:15:22,643 --> 00:15:26,291 >> Thank you for being here and I know I share your concern I 272 00:15:26,291 --> 00:15:29,459 know the commission as well up there. 273 00:15:29,459 --> 00:15:32,363 That district and anything we can possibly do. 274 00:15:32,363 --> 00:15:34,631 I've personally come up I feel your pain 275 00:15:34,631 --> 00:15:36,423 I live through the same thing with my kids. 276 00:15:36,423 --> 00:15:39,750 We had mud fields in Viera now look at them. 277 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:42,874 Med fields and Med Island they've gotten better. 278 00:15:42,874 --> 00:15:43,374 So. 279 00:15:43,374 --> 00:15:46,233 This is important come out these kids 280 00:15:46,233 --> 00:15:48,723 so I appreciate you being here and bringing attention. 281 00:15:48,723 --> 00:15:52,248 >> I remember there was a time when Cocoa went away from being 282 00:15:52,248 --> 00:15:54,456 in the Little League World Series they produced a lot 283 00:15:54,456 --> 00:15:55,581 of good stuff so thank you. 284 00:15:55,581 --> 00:15:56,923 I appreciate everybody. 285 00:15:56,923 --> 00:15:58,923 >> Ian right there. 286 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:00,430 Yes. 287 00:16:00,430 --> 00:16:02,910 Chair Altman: Thank you. 288 00:16:02,910 --> 00:16:05,803 Okay I think that's all of our cards in D2. 289 00:16:05,803 --> 00:16:06,323 Okay. 290 00:16:06,323 --> 00:16:12,123 We will move on to no vote required at this point. 291 00:16:12,123 --> 00:16:16,523 We'll move on to item, agenda item D3. 292 00:16:16,523 --> 00:16:20,723 >> All right commissioners item D3 is recommended, 293 00:16:21,463 --> 00:16:24,383 it is recommended that the Board of County Commissioners discuss 294 00:16:24,383 --> 00:16:29,183 a tentatively adopt the fiscal year 2026 2027 millage rates. 295 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:31,666 This item reflects the rates that were approved 296 00:16:31,666 --> 00:16:34,450 by the board in July of 2026. 297 00:16:34,450 --> 00:16:36,623 The countywide General fund ad valorem military 298 00:16:36,623 --> 00:16:42,300 has been tentatively set at the critical need rate of 3.094 to. 299 00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:45,123 This rate will require supermajority vote 300 00:16:45,123 --> 00:16:46,603 for the approval and in accordance 301 00:16:46,603 --> 00:16:49,763 with the county's charter cap and the state statute. 302 00:16:49,763 --> 00:16:52,763 Additionally any millage rate set above the rollback rate 303 00:16:52,763 --> 00:16:55,423 now requires at least a supermajority approval 304 00:16:55,423 --> 00:16:57,803 as a result of recent legislation associated 305 00:16:57,803 --> 00:16:58,907 with property taxes. 306 00:16:58,907 --> 00:17:03,127 Any changes to the millage rates under this item's, excuse me, 307 00:17:03,127 --> 00:17:04,483 let me resay that. 308 00:17:04,483 --> 00:17:06,843 Any changes to the millage rates under this item 309 00:17:06,843 --> 00:17:11,643 will be recomputed and announced under item D4. 310 00:17:11,723 --> 00:17:16,523 Chair Altman: Okay we do have One card. 311 00:17:17,201 --> 00:17:19,201 JJ Wolsey? 312 00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:31,514 >> Good afternoon honorable commissioners, 313 00:17:32,690 --> 00:17:35,499 county manager and of course I can't forget County Attorney. 314 00:17:35,499 --> 00:17:37,216 My name is Josh Woolsey. 315 00:17:37,216 --> 00:17:38,963 I'm not only a staff representative 316 00:17:38,963 --> 00:17:40,643 for the coastal Florida PPA. 317 00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:44,183 But I am a proud retired member of the Brevard County Sheriff's 318 00:17:44,183 --> 00:17:47,443 Office where I retired after 32 years of experience. 319 00:17:47,443 --> 00:17:49,714 With, as a Deputy Sheriff. 320 00:17:49,714 --> 00:17:52,219 On behalf of the coastal Flor PBA 321 00:17:52,219 --> 00:17:56,563 and hundreds of members that we represent, several hundred 322 00:17:56,563 --> 00:17:58,635 with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office, 323 00:17:58,635 --> 00:18:01,200 we are proud to stand before you tonight. 324 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,615 As a collective bargaining unit representative the Sheriff's 325 00:18:04,615 --> 00:18:08,590 office, we have been blessed to represent an extraordinary group 326 00:18:08,590 --> 00:18:10,971 of men and women who passionately work together 327 00:18:10,971 --> 00:18:13,723 every day to keep this country safe. 328 00:18:13,723 --> 00:18:16,522 We also consider ourselves very lucky 329 00:18:16,522 --> 00:18:20,183 to have exceptional leadership in our commissioners, 330 00:18:20,183 --> 00:18:24,323 County manager, and the Sheriff who considers public safety 331 00:18:24,323 --> 00:18:25,531 number one. 332 00:18:25,531 --> 00:18:29,731 Brevard County is very unique to manage. 333 00:18:29,913 --> 00:18:31,300 We understand that. 334 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,163 But through the tremendous relationships 335 00:18:33,163 --> 00:18:37,743 we all have forged, your support, your leadership, 336 00:18:37,743 --> 00:18:40,656 and your faith in us means so very much. 337 00:18:40,656 --> 00:18:45,448 And we can't thank you enough for making Brevard the safest 338 00:18:45,448 --> 00:18:46,763 county in Florida. 339 00:18:46,763 --> 00:18:47,763 Thank you. 340 00:18:47,763 --> 00:18:50,163 Chair Altman: Thank you. 341 00:18:50,291 --> 00:18:54,869 I think that is our final card and this, now the vote 342 00:18:54,869 --> 00:18:57,463 is required to have a vote tentatively 343 00:18:57,463 --> 00:18:59,863 adopt FY 2627 millage rates. 344 00:19:01,343 --> 00:19:03,343 Motion to approve. 345 00:19:03,387 --> 00:19:04,843 Is there a second? 346 00:19:04,843 --> 00:19:05,843 Second. 347 00:19:05,843 --> 00:19:07,843 Any discussion, debate? 348 00:19:08,663 --> 00:19:11,883 All those in favor say yea. 349 00:19:11,883 --> 00:19:13,123 Opposed. 350 00:19:13,123 --> 00:19:15,123 Passes four one. 351 00:19:15,943 --> 00:19:18,820 With Commissioner Feltner voting against. 352 00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:20,433 I heard him. 353 00:19:20,433 --> 00:19:23,152 That was a yay wasn't it? 354 00:19:23,152 --> 00:19:24,403 Commissioner Goodson? 355 00:19:24,403 --> 00:19:27,403 >> Sorry that was a yay. 356 00:19:27,723 --> 00:19:29,899 Chair Altman: Thank you. 357 00:19:29,899 --> 00:19:30,763 Okay. 358 00:19:30,763 --> 00:19:31,696 Next item. 359 00:19:31,696 --> 00:19:34,363 Item agenda D for Jim? 360 00:19:34,363 --> 00:19:36,763 >> Thank you Mr. Chair. 361 00:19:37,630 --> 00:19:38,979 Item differ based on the approved changes 362 00:19:38,979 --> 00:19:42,643 and millage rates of approved on the agenda item D3 I would now 363 00:19:42,643 --> 00:19:44,683 ask the Budget Office to read into the effort 364 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:48,283 the revised aggregate >> The aggregate rollback 365 00:19:48,703 --> 00:19:52,903 rate for the fiscal year 2026 2027 budget is 4.4753. 366 00:19:53,463 --> 00:19:55,669 The aggregate tentative millage rate 367 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:59,269 for the fiscal year 2026 2027 budget is 4.7492. 368 00:20:00,747 --> 00:20:03,747 The tentative aggregate millage rate 369 00:20:03,816 --> 00:20:08,160 is 6.12% more than the aggregate rollback rate. 370 00:20:09,203 --> 00:20:10,743 Chair Altman: Okay. 371 00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,865 Do we have any cards? 372 00:20:12,865 --> 00:20:15,160 We have no cards on this item. 373 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,163 And no vote is required at this moment. 374 00:20:18,163 --> 00:20:20,563 So we'll move to agenda item D5. 375 00:20:20,563 --> 00:20:22,963 >> Thank you Mr. Chair. 376 00:20:22,963 --> 00:20:26,363 In accordance with the Brevard County Code of Ordinances, 377 00:20:26,363 --> 00:20:28,636 a requested adoption of fiscal Year 378 00:20:28,636 --> 00:20:31,636 2026 2027 budgets for the following agencies. 379 00:20:32,783 --> 00:20:37,323 A solid waste management, b stormwater utility department, 380 00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:40,563 c fire services Non-ad valorem assessment, 381 00:20:40,563 --> 00:20:44,830 and D Millburn Tillman Water Control District. 382 00:20:44,830 --> 00:20:46,967 Chair Altman: Okay board vote is required 383 00:20:46,967 --> 00:20:49,763 to adopt budgets for these districts and programs. 384 00:20:49,763 --> 00:20:52,763 >> Make a motion to adopt. 385 00:20:52,843 --> 00:20:55,503 Chair Altman: There's a motion to adopt 386 00:20:55,503 --> 00:20:59,491 solid waste stormwater (Indistinct) is there a second? 387 00:20:59,491 --> 00:21:00,353 There's a second. 388 00:21:00,353 --> 00:21:01,883 Any discussion debate? 389 00:21:01,883 --> 00:21:03,683 All those in favor say aye? 390 00:21:03,683 --> 00:21:04,976 Yay. 391 00:21:04,976 --> 00:21:06,269 Opposed. 392 00:21:06,269 --> 00:21:08,219 Carries unanimously. 393 00:21:08,219 --> 00:21:13,190 Okay we will move to D6 Utility services. 394 00:21:13,163 --> 00:21:15,163 >> Thanks Mr. Chair. 395 00:21:15,296 --> 00:21:17,283 It is requested that the governing 396 00:21:17,283 --> 00:21:19,843 board of the barefoot Bay Water and Sewer District 397 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:22,883 approve a resolution adopting a budget for the fiscal year 398 00:21:22,883 --> 00:21:24,883 2026 2027. 399 00:21:25,163 --> 00:21:29,963 Chair Altman: Board vote is required to (Indistinct) 400 00:21:30,233 --> 00:21:31,851 water and Sewer district. 401 00:21:31,851 --> 00:21:33,707 Motion B in order. 402 00:21:33,707 --> 00:21:36,107 A motion to approval. 403 00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:37,256 Second. 404 00:21:37,256 --> 00:21:40,856 All in favor say aye aye. 405 00:21:44,923 --> 00:21:46,923 Opposed carries unanimously. 406 00:21:47,683 --> 00:21:50,653 Thank you we will move to agenda item seven. 407 00:21:50,653 --> 00:21:51,843 D7. 408 00:21:51,843 --> 00:21:54,243 >> Thank you Mr. Chair. 409 00:21:54,243 --> 00:21:56,933 Based on the action taken during this public hearing, 410 00:21:56,933 --> 00:21:59,493 I now ask that the Budget Office read in record 411 00:21:59,493 --> 00:22:04,293 the revised tentative budget for the fiscal year 2026 2027. 412 00:22:05,483 --> 00:22:08,243 >> Chair and Board of County Commissioners the revised 413 00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:10,643 tentative budget for 2026 2027 is $2,425,830,420, 414 00:22:14,243 --> 00:22:17,243 this represents a decrease of $161,915,446. 415 00:22:20,533 --> 00:22:24,133 Or 6.26% less than the fiscal year 2025, 416 00:22:27,803 --> 00:22:29,803 2026 current budget of $2,587,753,866. 417 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:40,723 >> Mr. Chair I request tentative approval of a resolution 418 00:22:40,723 --> 00:22:44,923 adopting the fiscal year 2026 2027 Brevard County Budget. 419 00:22:45,883 --> 00:22:50,276 Chair Altman: A motion to approve is there a second? 420 00:22:50,276 --> 00:22:53,933 A motion seconded tentatively approve the resolution 421 00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:55,933 of fiscal Year 2026 2027. 422 00:22:57,251 --> 00:22:58,483 Budget. 423 00:22:58,483 --> 00:23:01,125 All in favor say aye aye. 424 00:23:01,125 --> 00:23:01,792 [Members voting] 425 00:23:01,792 --> 00:23:03,792 Chair Altman: Opposed? 426 00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:07,963 Budget passes for one with Commissioner Feltman 427 00:23:07,963 --> 00:23:08,993 voting against. 428 00:23:08,993 --> 00:23:11,663 That concludes the tentative budget hearing 429 00:23:11,663 --> 00:23:14,803 and now moving on to more reports. 430 00:23:14,803 --> 00:23:17,203 We have D eight. 431 00:23:18,883 --> 00:23:24,309 >> Sorry a typo D eight utility barefoot bay utility rate 432 00:23:24,309 --> 00:23:24,936 resolution. 433 00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:26,936 Sorry. 434 00:23:27,883 --> 00:23:32,683 Chair Altman: Let me pull that out here. 435 00:23:34,854 --> 00:23:36,843 >> Mr. Chair we have 85 -- 436 00:23:36,843 --> 00:23:41,643 Chair Altman: For some reason my agenda -- 437 00:23:51,643 --> 00:23:53,643 Eddie we're ready. 438 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,269 >> Good evening. 439 00:24:00,683 --> 00:24:05,283 D eight is the approval of the barefoot Bay services rate 440 00:24:05,283 --> 00:24:07,683 resolution amendment encompassing the barefoot Bay 441 00:24:07,683 --> 00:24:09,603 Water and Sewer District. 442 00:24:09,603 --> 00:24:14,633 This is the public hearing, we've done the advertisement, 443 00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:18,843 we're seeking board direction on the amendment to the rate 444 00:24:18,843 --> 00:24:20,843 resolution. 445 00:24:21,489 --> 00:24:22,310 Chair Altman: 446 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:22,878 Chair Altman: Okay. 447 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,979 We have three cards. 448 00:24:24,979 --> 00:24:27,379 First is Sidney James. 449 00:24:44,777 --> 00:24:46,777 >> Good evening commissioners. 450 00:24:51,763 --> 00:24:57,243 I want to say, there's a reason why the other five wastewater 451 00:24:57,243 --> 00:24:59,783 treatment plants in Brevard County 452 00:24:59,783 --> 00:25:02,539 are integrated into county system. 453 00:25:02,539 --> 00:25:08,511 There's a reason why a decision was never made to pull one out. 454 00:25:08,511 --> 00:25:10,403 Or separate all of them. 455 00:25:10,403 --> 00:25:14,300 I don't know the reasons why. 456 00:25:14,803 --> 00:25:19,603 But it feels like just unfair, I have 457 00:25:21,945 --> 00:25:26,290 to go back to that issue of fairness and equality. 458 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:29,771 I know that the commissioners have received letters. 459 00:25:29,771 --> 00:25:34,547 It's because you are all part equal members of the governing 460 00:25:34,547 --> 00:25:38,643 body of the barefoot Bay Water and Sewer District. 461 00:25:38,643 --> 00:25:40,616 It doesn't fall on Commissioner Atkinson. 462 00:25:40,616 --> 00:25:44,523 The person who spoke about baseball field flooding, that's 463 00:25:44,523 --> 00:25:45,403 one district. 464 00:25:45,403 --> 00:25:48,563 All commissioners agree they don't want flooded baseball 465 00:25:48,563 --> 00:25:49,403 fields. 466 00:25:49,403 --> 00:25:51,435 Even if it's not in your district. 467 00:25:51,435 --> 00:25:55,635 We don't have a great rationale that 468 00:25:56,353 --> 00:26:00,203 would save your commissioner, your constituents money 469 00:26:00,203 --> 00:26:03,196 to integrate us sooner or you Mr. Altman. 470 00:26:03,196 --> 00:26:06,796 Or Mr. Feltner or Mr. Goodman. 471 00:26:08,123 --> 00:26:13,523 We are in favor of the rollback of 2025 rates 472 00:26:14,283 --> 00:26:18,483 by 5.55% with no further rate increases through 2030. 473 00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:25,568 We have read the rate analysis and we are in agreement of that. 474 00:26:25,568 --> 00:26:28,209 So we are due to vote yes. 475 00:26:28,209 --> 00:26:32,163 We also ask that you consider sunsetting, 476 00:26:32,163 --> 00:26:36,673 we are pleased that you have voted to sunset our district 477 00:26:36,673 --> 00:26:38,859 and integrate us into the countywide system. 478 00:26:38,859 --> 00:26:43,998 We just ask that you reconsider, and we'll probably 479 00:26:43,998 --> 00:26:46,169 continue asking that to do it sooner, 480 00:26:46,169 --> 00:26:49,443 to provide some meaningful relief for us. 481 00:26:49,443 --> 00:26:53,830 I would ask a question though that I would love an answer 482 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:55,830 tonight if possible. 483 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:01,483 Mr. Fontenot said on the August 4th meeting here that 484 00:27:01,483 --> 00:27:04,227 our utility is not in compliance with the DEP. 485 00:27:04,227 --> 00:27:06,398 We would like to know if that's true 486 00:27:06,398 --> 00:27:09,890 or not, and if so in what way. 487 00:27:09,890 --> 00:27:13,416 And if fines are being paid because of it. 488 00:27:13,416 --> 00:27:16,283 And I would like to ask each of you 489 00:27:16,283 --> 00:27:21,803 if you would share why you were in favor of integrating us 490 00:27:21,803 --> 00:27:24,909 into the countywide system once the bonds are 491 00:27:24,909 --> 00:27:27,803 paid but not sooner and leave it letting 492 00:27:27,803 --> 00:27:29,203 us continue to pay our bonds. 493 00:27:29,203 --> 00:27:31,203 Thank you. 494 00:27:36,635 --> 00:27:37,135 [Applause] 495 00:27:37,135 --> 00:27:39,218 >> Will mark those questions in here after we hear 496 00:27:39,218 --> 00:27:40,430 everyone's input. 497 00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:42,443 Next is Hannah Rylander? 498 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,179 >> Good evening Mr. Chair members of the Commission. 499 00:27:55,179 --> 00:28:01,779 I am here also to support the rollback of our fees 500 00:28:01,816 --> 00:28:04,816 for 2026 back to the 2025 rates. 501 00:28:06,296 --> 00:28:07,843 5.15%. 502 00:28:07,843 --> 00:28:10,243 And also, hold on. 503 00:28:12,277 --> 00:28:18,830 I am used to this and I should have this information memorized 504 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:20,830 by now. 505 00:28:22,723 --> 00:28:25,856 And no further rate increases as has been stated 506 00:28:25,856 --> 00:28:27,891 and we really appreciate that. 507 00:28:27,891 --> 00:28:31,870 I mean -- the biggest reason that we're so concerned about 508 00:28:31,870 --> 00:28:34,245 this is because we have a lot of low income people living 509 00:28:34,245 --> 00:28:35,242 in our community. 510 00:28:35,242 --> 00:28:38,483 And these are retirees who are on fixed incomes 511 00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:41,491 and they are, they're hurting and our economy 512 00:28:41,491 --> 00:28:43,915 is pretty bad right now. 513 00:28:43,915 --> 00:28:46,629 So that's our mission here. 514 00:28:46,629 --> 00:28:49,475 Is to see what we can do to help them. 515 00:28:49,475 --> 00:28:53,187 And we're very happy that you're going 516 00:28:53,187 --> 00:28:55,563 to sunset our treatment plant. 517 00:28:55,563 --> 00:28:59,523 But again, there has to be some way that it 518 00:28:59,523 --> 00:29:01,963 will be beneficial to the county at large 519 00:29:01,963 --> 00:29:06,158 as well as the barefoot Bay water Sewer District customers. 520 00:29:06,158 --> 00:29:07,708 To have us integrated sooner. 521 00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:09,830 And we're going to try to work on 522 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:14,355 that because we have inundated Commissioner Atkinson with lots 523 00:29:14,355 --> 00:29:15,579 of data. 524 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:17,843 And we're continuing to research this 525 00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:22,435 but trying to figure out the numbers and how do they mesh. 526 00:29:22,435 --> 00:29:24,643 How is it that it would be beneficial to both parties 527 00:29:24,643 --> 00:29:27,123 without incurring any additional costs for them. 528 00:29:27,123 --> 00:29:28,563 It's important to us. 529 00:29:28,563 --> 00:29:29,443 As well. 530 00:29:29,443 --> 00:29:32,770 And I know it's important to you as well. 531 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:33,671 So let's say. 532 00:29:33,671 --> 00:29:35,623 And then the bond that of course. 533 00:29:35,623 --> 00:29:37,467 We are still committed and understand 534 00:29:37,467 --> 00:29:38,691 that that is our obligation. 535 00:29:38,691 --> 00:29:40,677 And that we will pay that. 536 00:29:40,677 --> 00:29:44,830 And so if there is the possibility of integrating us 537 00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:49,483 sooner, then the end of 2029 beginning January 1st of 2030. 538 00:29:51,696 --> 00:29:55,300 We really would appreciate if you continued to work on that 539 00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,943 and look into that, it's important, it's very important. 540 00:29:58,943 --> 00:30:06,143 And the only, and that we would look to the bond debt 541 00:30:06,423 --> 00:30:08,383 as a separate line item. 542 00:30:08,383 --> 00:30:09,683 We're committed to paying that. 543 00:30:09,683 --> 00:30:11,243 We absolutely are. 544 00:30:11,243 --> 00:30:12,907 So thank you very much for your time. 545 00:30:12,907 --> 00:30:16,941 Appreciate it very much and please vote yes. (Laughs) 546 00:30:16,941 --> 00:30:18,536 Chair Altman: Thank you so much. 547 00:30:18,536 --> 00:30:20,536 Thank you. 548 00:30:21,396 --> 00:30:21,896 [Applause] 549 00:30:21,896 --> 00:30:23,203 Chair Altman: John? 550 00:30:23,203 --> 00:30:26,203 >> Good evening ladies and gentlemen. 551 00:30:32,323 --> 00:30:36,870 Here's a copy of what I gave miss Atkinson is 552 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:38,487 over 500 copies of petitions. 553 00:30:38,707 --> 00:30:41,395 For what we're talking about. 554 00:30:41,395 --> 00:30:46,443 I also agree, we want to be integrated as soon as possible 555 00:30:46,443 --> 00:30:48,151 and we are thankful for the sunset. 556 00:30:48,151 --> 00:30:52,351 And the rollback we'd like to say. 557 00:30:52,883 --> 00:30:56,619 What I do understand is the dilemma 558 00:30:56,619 --> 00:31:00,219 that you have with your constituents. 559 00:31:00,803 --> 00:31:03,699 And here's what I would say to them because you're 560 00:31:03,699 --> 00:31:06,923 going to have to say something. 561 00:31:06,923 --> 00:31:11,283 I would say to them that you inherit 562 00:31:11,283 --> 00:31:13,155 what your predecessors did. 563 00:31:13,155 --> 00:31:15,643 Which was the wrong thing. 564 00:31:15,643 --> 00:31:19,923 And for a couple dollars a month that it's 565 00:31:19,923 --> 00:31:21,611 going to cost you constituents, it 566 00:31:21,611 --> 00:31:24,995 would be an immense relief to the people of barefoot Bay 567 00:31:24,995 --> 00:31:26,473 to correct that wrong. 568 00:31:26,473 --> 00:31:28,630 That's what I would say. 569 00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:30,200 And I want to follow it up with this. 570 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,275 I want to put more time on this last couple sentences. 571 00:31:33,275 --> 00:31:36,496 So I retire from federal police officer. 572 00:31:36,496 --> 00:31:41,211 And during my time of being a police officer, 573 00:31:41,211 --> 00:31:45,243 some officers came in one day and told me have been situation 574 00:31:45,243 --> 00:31:46,123 during in-service. 575 00:31:46,123 --> 00:31:47,797 It was very bad. 576 00:31:47,797 --> 00:31:51,363 It was so bad that the military would not 577 00:31:51,363 --> 00:31:53,403 participate in that situation. 578 00:31:53,403 --> 00:31:57,343 Because of the serious, it could of physical harm 579 00:31:57,343 --> 00:31:58,355 and possibly death. 580 00:31:58,355 --> 00:32:01,190 I wrote up that incident. 581 00:32:01,190 --> 00:32:04,243 And I sent it through the proper channels. 582 00:32:04,243 --> 00:32:07,886 It wasn't long after that that I got a visit at 430 583 00:32:07,886 --> 00:32:10,795 in the morning I work night shift from my captain, when 584 00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:13,233 a captain comes in to see you at 430 in the morning that's 585 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,249 not a good thing. 586 00:32:15,249 --> 00:32:21,816 He proceeded to tell me that he believed I did the right thing 587 00:32:21,816 --> 00:32:23,555 and did it the right way. 588 00:32:23,555 --> 00:32:26,963 And it definitely is probably saved some lives. 589 00:32:26,963 --> 00:32:31,416 But the two sent him in to request a picture of myself 590 00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:33,593 to put on his dartboard. 591 00:32:33,593 --> 00:32:37,198 And it was a good thing that I had already got promoted. 592 00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:40,198 Because I wouldn't see one. 593 00:32:40,276 --> 00:32:40,919 Okay? 594 00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:45,156 And I had to shower the channels and defend my case which I did. 595 00:32:45,156 --> 00:32:49,923 And I gave him an alternative for the solution which they now 596 00:32:49,923 --> 00:32:50,563 use. 597 00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:54,510 Now that decision I made cost me thousands 598 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:57,379 of dollars in my retirement because I never 599 00:32:57,379 --> 00:32:58,963 got promoted after that. 600 00:32:58,963 --> 00:33:03,763 And to this day, being retired eight years. 601 00:33:03,843 --> 00:33:06,269 I made the right decision. 602 00:33:06,269 --> 00:33:10,469 There are consequences for doing something right. 603 00:33:10,539 --> 00:33:14,633 And I, and they hurt, on my retirement check. 604 00:33:14,633 --> 00:33:16,163 But it was the right thing to do. 605 00:33:16,163 --> 00:33:17,351 I would do it again. 606 00:33:17,351 --> 00:33:20,173 So I understand you have consequences 607 00:33:20,173 --> 00:33:23,318 to your constituents for the decisions you make. 608 00:33:23,318 --> 00:33:25,264 And I wanted to share that story with you 609 00:33:25,264 --> 00:33:28,264 so you know I understand. 610 00:33:28,403 --> 00:33:31,155 Chair Altman: Thank you for sharing that with us. 611 00:33:31,155 --> 00:33:33,555 That's all our cards. 612 00:33:34,416 --> 00:33:36,283 [Applause] 613 00:33:36,283 --> 00:33:38,563 Chair Altman: Miss Atkinson? 614 00:33:38,563 --> 00:33:41,323 Vice Chair Adkinson: If there's no board discussion 615 00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:43,203 I'd like to make a motion to approve. 616 00:33:43,203 --> 00:33:46,175 Chair Altman: Motion to approve and what we are approving is 617 00:33:46,175 --> 00:33:47,883 the Board of County Commissioners approve 618 00:33:47,883 --> 00:33:51,803 the barefoot Bay Utility Service rate resolution and consider 619 00:33:51,803 --> 00:33:54,703 barefoot Bay Water and Sewer District which reduces 620 00:33:54,703 --> 00:33:58,648 and maintains reducing rate until sunset on December 31st 621 00:33:58,648 --> 00:34:00,200 of 2029. 622 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:07,531 Okay is there a motion in a second all in favor say yay. 623 00:34:07,531 --> 00:34:09,531 Opposed nay. 624 00:34:10,403 --> 00:34:11,283 Carries unanimously. 625 00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:13,283 Thank you. 626 00:34:13,884 --> 00:34:15,884 [Applause] 627 00:34:16,472 --> 00:34:19,472 Chair Altman: Okay thank you. 628 00:34:19,523 --> 00:34:21,523 All right. 629 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,500 Okay. 630 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,168 I think that's it. 631 00:34:25,168 --> 00:34:26,795 Do we have anything else? 632 00:34:26,795 --> 00:34:28,539 So let's go to board reports. 633 00:34:28,539 --> 00:34:29,683 County manager. 634 00:34:29,683 --> 00:34:35,830 >> I have no report thank Chair Altman: County attorney. 635 00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:38,283 >> I have no report district chair. 636 00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:43,400 Chair Altman: I handed out an item for the 637 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,650 >> I would like to direct staff to come back and bring us some 638 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:49,219 information that we could maybe look at doing a local option gas 639 00:34:49,219 --> 00:34:53,910 tax of something so we could maybe look over the last next 640 00:34:53,910 --> 00:34:53,883 couple of meetings. 641 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,477 A lot of that will weigh upon, if we get this 642 00:34:57,477 --> 00:35:00,276 and it's a user fee you guys next year would maybe 643 00:35:00,276 --> 00:35:02,875 not be able to have to do anything different with taxes 644 00:35:02,875 --> 00:35:04,882 or lower them if we get more money coming in 645 00:35:04,882 --> 00:35:07,112 with this to help cover roads infrastructure. 646 00:35:07,112 --> 00:35:09,303 So if you guys are willing I'd like 647 00:35:09,303 --> 00:35:12,683 to get a motion to set to staff to go put together 648 00:35:12,683 --> 00:35:15,830 some information for us. 649 00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:17,443 Chair Altman: Okay. 650 00:35:17,443 --> 00:35:23,478 >> I'll second the motion but I have a question if I may. 651 00:35:23,478 --> 00:35:26,259 My question would just be how does this plan come up 652 00:35:26,259 --> 00:35:28,842 because I don't know, how does this play into people who drive 653 00:35:28,842 --> 00:35:30,476 electric cars on our roads? 654 00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:31,163 It doesn't? 655 00:35:31,163 --> 00:35:33,480 So what do we do about that? 656 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,163 Does anybody have any thoughts? 657 00:35:35,163 --> 00:35:38,250 >> Can I say one thing. 658 00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:39,683 I'm sorry Mr. Chair. 659 00:35:39,683 --> 00:35:42,683 Chair Altman: Yes go ahead. 660 00:35:44,123 --> 00:35:46,203 Commissioner Feltner: When gas tax was conceived 661 00:35:46,203 --> 00:35:50,143 this was an easy thing when the person who owned the pump 662 00:35:50,143 --> 00:35:51,587 was the tax collector. 663 00:35:51,587 --> 00:35:55,787 So it has changed drastically and so 664 00:35:56,835 --> 00:36:00,163 when you increase these things, you're 665 00:36:00,163 --> 00:36:05,750 continuing to get an increase share of declining market. 666 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:07,827 So you're not really addressing the problem. 667 00:36:07,827 --> 00:36:10,918 Because cars are, I mean it's a good thing, 668 00:36:10,918 --> 00:36:13,418 are becoming more efficient they're more electric cars there 669 00:36:13,418 --> 00:36:14,683 are more hybrids. 670 00:36:14,683 --> 00:36:18,283 Rideshare, there's all kinds of things. 671 00:36:18,383 --> 00:36:22,859 So it's not a long term fix at all. 672 00:36:22,859 --> 00:36:26,883 You'll continue, I mean Florida Department of Transportation 673 00:36:26,883 --> 00:36:30,483 and Federal Department of Transportation officials 674 00:36:30,603 --> 00:36:32,883 are looking at something different 675 00:36:32,883 --> 00:36:37,476 because they know that gas tax revenue will continue to shrink. 676 00:36:37,476 --> 00:36:42,683 So that's -- I won't be voting for that but I just want 677 00:36:42,683 --> 00:36:46,723 to share with you that that's the problem with gas tax. 678 00:36:46,723 --> 00:36:50,741 >> I think if we just get some data back let staff bring us 679 00:36:50,741 --> 00:36:53,283 the numbers and the amount I'm not going to be here next time 680 00:36:53,283 --> 00:36:55,790 you guys do budgets I went through this one. 681 00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:56,443 It's tough it's either that or you're 682 00:36:56,443 --> 00:36:58,360 going to be cutting a lot of people's pace in. 683 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,709 So I would rather just try to figure out 684 00:37:00,709 --> 00:37:03,487 a way we can do this because we can't keep taxing our citizens 685 00:37:03,487 --> 00:37:04,579 like we are. 686 00:37:04,579 --> 00:37:06,174 It's getting tough out there. 687 00:37:06,174 --> 00:37:08,133 And people are having a really hard time trying 688 00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:11,868 to pay their bills and it's not just on taxes it's everything. 689 00:37:11,868 --> 00:37:15,179 Peanut butter has gone from 378 to 7 something 690 00:37:15,179 --> 00:37:19,143 and it's just it's just wild so I thought it's something to look 691 00:37:19,143 --> 00:37:20,959 out for you guys in the future. 692 00:37:20,959 --> 00:37:23,336 And so I'd like to just have staff come back 693 00:37:23,336 --> 00:37:26,723 and find some data for us. 694 00:37:26,723 --> 00:37:29,940 >> Commissioner if I may. 695 00:37:29,940 --> 00:37:31,973 If I can just share about the timeline for this 696 00:37:31,973 --> 00:37:34,323 because depending on the direction 697 00:37:34,323 --> 00:37:37,730 the board looks at going, it could be important. 698 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:40,273 There are two ways to unlock any of the gas taxes 699 00:37:40,273 --> 00:37:42,216 that aren't currently opposed here 700 00:37:42,216 --> 00:37:45,133 and one is by referendum and a general election. 701 00:37:45,133 --> 00:37:48,627 The deadline for 2026 for that passed in August. 702 00:37:48,627 --> 00:37:50,643 So no referendum this year and we're 703 00:37:50,643 --> 00:37:53,123 two years away from another referendum date. 704 00:37:53,123 --> 00:37:59,123 A supermajority, majority plus one vote could impose the gas 705 00:37:59,883 --> 00:38:05,563 tax, in order for that to be effective January 1st of 2027, 706 00:38:05,563 --> 00:38:08,274 the board would have to do that on or before October 1st of this 707 00:38:08,274 --> 00:38:12,323 year, we only have one regular meeting which is next week 708 00:38:12,323 --> 00:38:12,963 before then. 709 00:38:12,963 --> 00:38:16,273 So for anything to take effect 2027, 710 00:38:16,273 --> 00:38:20,917 next week's meeting would pretty much be the only opportunity 711 00:38:20,917 --> 00:38:21,981 to do that. 712 00:38:21,981 --> 00:38:24,916 If we're only talking about it for planning out into the future 713 00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:29,144 and if January 1st 2028 implementation date is okay, 714 00:38:29,144 --> 00:38:30,727 then we don't have that time pressure. 715 00:38:30,727 --> 00:38:33,107 I just don't want to bring back a lot of information for you 716 00:38:33,107 --> 00:38:35,527 at some point down the road and say but we didn't tell you 717 00:38:35,527 --> 00:38:37,235 it would be too late when we brought this 718 00:38:37,235 --> 00:38:38,856 to really do anything about it. 719 00:38:38,856 --> 00:38:40,763 So I wanted to share that timeline. 720 00:38:40,763 --> 00:38:43,923 >> I should have done this earlier but. 721 00:38:43,923 --> 00:38:47,176 Can a new board after they get the data look at it 722 00:38:47,176 --> 00:38:48,543 still like in December? 723 00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:49,683 Can they still? 724 00:38:49,683 --> 00:38:53,323 >> They can look at it in December but they wouldn't do 725 00:38:53,323 --> 00:38:56,323 anything that could take effect until the earliest would be 726 00:38:56,323 --> 00:38:58,123 January 28th at that point. 727 00:38:58,123 --> 00:39:00,523 >> You have another question. 728 00:39:00,763 --> 00:39:03,503 So if we did get the information right now, 729 00:39:03,503 --> 00:39:05,829 would it be outdated or useless? 730 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:06,329 Later? 731 00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:09,929 Or would it still be relevant? 732 00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:13,203 >> I mean I assume it would still be relevant obviously 733 00:39:13,203 --> 00:39:16,823 the more data becomes the less relevant it is 734 00:39:16,823 --> 00:39:22,223 but if it's looked at, reasonable amount of time. 735 00:39:24,876 --> 00:39:27,267 >> But we could do it still put it on the ballot. 736 00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:28,723 Down the road to. 737 00:39:28,723 --> 00:39:32,329 >> Could put it on the ballot for the general election in 2028 738 00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:36,300 which means it can take effect in 2029 or by supermajority vote 739 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,840 prior to October of next year the board could do something 740 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,958 and it would take effect January 1st of 2028 but next meeting 741 00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:44,830 literally is the only opportunity if you want to do 742 00:39:44,830 --> 00:39:45,363 something for next year. 743 00:39:45,363 --> 00:39:49,797 >> So this can be something if amendment three goes through it 744 00:39:49,797 --> 00:39:51,971 will give you tools on the ballot later so. 745 00:39:51,971 --> 00:39:53,971 Just a thought. 746 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:57,301 Chair Altman: I think it's prudent we could have had it 747 00:39:57,301 --> 00:39:58,676 on this year's ballot but there's 748 00:39:58,676 --> 00:40:00,134 a lot on this year's ballot already 749 00:40:00,134 --> 00:40:03,683 and I fear that we're overloading it. 750 00:40:03,683 --> 00:40:06,523 So we'll take a look at it. 751 00:40:06,523 --> 00:40:10,871 The electric car solution could be that service fee. 752 00:40:10,871 --> 00:40:11,371 Tax. 753 00:40:11,371 --> 00:40:13,583 That everybody would pay. 754 00:40:13,583 --> 00:40:15,331 You could put that on the electric bill 755 00:40:15,331 --> 00:40:18,976 and you could capture some of the road improvements 756 00:40:18,976 --> 00:40:22,283 from utilization of people with electric cars. 757 00:40:22,283 --> 00:40:25,791 >> Is it possible to do when they register their car? 758 00:40:25,791 --> 00:40:28,203 I mean I have no idea I just don't know. 759 00:40:28,203 --> 00:40:30,979 Chair Altman: If you're charging your car 760 00:40:30,979 --> 00:40:34,376 and you're paying a fee on the electricity and that money 761 00:40:34,376 --> 00:40:36,603 then would be going to roads. 762 00:40:36,603 --> 00:40:41,603 Then electric consumers would be paying more their fair share. 763 00:40:41,603 --> 00:40:46,430 >> Is that something staff could also look into in addition to? 764 00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:49,489 >> Can I say one thing about that just real quick. 765 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:51,902 For the people who buy gas powered 766 00:40:51,902 --> 00:40:54,270 cars you would be taxing them twice because there's 767 00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:57,987 no way on an electric utility that you could just say well 768 00:40:57,987 --> 00:41:00,639 we're gonna charge the people who are 769 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,560 charging the car in the garage. 770 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,803 I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just saying, 771 00:41:05,803 --> 00:41:09,803 Chair Altman: They would be paying more in electricity so. 772 00:41:09,803 --> 00:41:12,300 Because they're not charging their car 773 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:14,363 they would not be charging as much. 774 00:41:14,363 --> 00:41:17,285 >> If you consume less electricity. 775 00:41:17,285 --> 00:41:20,243 You could say the same thing about the gas tax. 776 00:41:20,243 --> 00:41:22,403 I drive less or I drive for more efficient car 777 00:41:22,403 --> 00:41:24,300 and pay less gas tax. 778 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,675 Chair Altman: It does help a little bit. 779 00:41:26,675 --> 00:41:27,723 It's not perfect. 780 00:41:27,723 --> 00:41:31,616 But at least if you're charging your car in your garage 781 00:41:31,616 --> 00:41:34,931 so you're going to be using more electricity than if you're 782 00:41:34,931 --> 00:41:37,643 paying on the electric bill you would capture that. 783 00:41:37,643 --> 00:41:41,683 >> But if there was a flat fleet at electric at registration 784 00:41:41,683 --> 00:41:43,123 of electric vehicle. 785 00:41:43,123 --> 00:41:45,763 Chair Altman: You could do that that would probably 786 00:41:45,763 --> 00:41:47,763 require state law. 787 00:41:48,763 --> 00:41:51,203 That's a good discussion we could have -- 788 00:41:51,203 --> 00:41:55,103 >> The state has looked at that in a few legislative sessions 789 00:41:55,103 --> 00:41:58,430 it's been floated early on but has never gotten much traction. 790 00:41:58,430 --> 00:42:01,893 >> Didn't they have impact fee 30 years ago on new cars 791 00:42:01,893 --> 00:42:04,476 registered in the state and the court overturned that and said 792 00:42:04,476 --> 00:42:08,307 you can't do that, you can't charge a new person to the state 793 00:42:08,307 --> 00:42:10,553 more for their vehicle registration than somebody 794 00:42:10,553 --> 00:42:12,283 who's here currently? 795 00:42:12,283 --> 00:42:16,963 My vague recollection from 30 years ago was that was the case. 796 00:42:16,963 --> 00:42:20,203 >> I don't recall that but that would make sense. 797 00:42:20,203 --> 00:42:23,523 >> So I don't know how that's workable. 798 00:42:23,523 --> 00:42:27,877 >> I don't know about electric cars so I don't know. 799 00:42:27,877 --> 00:42:31,940 But you know about the stuff they plug in would there be some 800 00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:34,405 way to tap into that at different -- 801 00:42:34,405 --> 00:42:36,905 >> Tax collector is going to say something but when you plug 802 00:42:36,905 --> 00:42:40,203 in to one of the charging things out there in the world, 803 00:42:40,203 --> 00:42:43,216 you might use your credit card or something like that. 804 00:42:43,216 --> 00:42:47,323 To pay whoever owns that because you're paying just like you 805 00:42:47,323 --> 00:42:49,283 would if you were going to a gas station. 806 00:42:49,283 --> 00:42:53,483 >> The 295 registration initial registration fee you discussed 807 00:42:53,843 --> 00:42:58,990 was ruled that it was creating two separate classes 808 00:42:58,990 --> 00:42:59,491 of taxpayers. 809 00:42:59,491 --> 00:43:02,683 And it was done away with. 810 00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:06,683 >> Is that by court or is that by -- 811 00:43:06,683 --> 00:43:08,370 >> By court. 812 00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:11,329 You were in the legislature when it initially passed, 813 00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:14,603 I don't think you were there -- you may have been there when it 814 00:43:14,603 --> 00:43:16,603 was struck down. 815 00:43:17,363 --> 00:43:19,829 So that's what that was. 816 00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:22,771 It was creating two separate classes of taxpayers 817 00:43:22,771 --> 00:43:27,123 but you would also have to be careful of double taxation. 818 00:43:27,123 --> 00:43:31,283 >> Miss Cullen is there something that the electric car 819 00:43:31,283 --> 00:43:36,300 people, I'm sorry I'm really (Indistinct) have to do 820 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,403 different to do any kind of charging fee at public places? 821 00:43:39,403 --> 00:43:41,803 That you know of? 822 00:43:41,923 --> 00:43:47,160 >> No we at the Division of Safety and Motor Vehicles we do 823 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,309 not capture what type of power the car uses. 824 00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:57,603 So that would have to be a lot of legislation passed. 825 00:43:57,603 --> 00:44:02,611 Chair Altman: But if we did have that local service. 826 00:44:02,611 --> 00:44:04,611 Fee or tax. 827 00:44:04,659 --> 00:44:08,929 That charge for electricity it would capture some of it 828 00:44:08,929 --> 00:44:10,869 because an electric car users are going 829 00:44:10,869 --> 00:44:13,869 to be buying more electricity. 830 00:44:14,243 --> 00:44:17,743 >> I'm kind of thinking about the tourists that come through 831 00:44:17,743 --> 00:44:20,900 and they've got to pull over and charge up somewhere 832 00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:22,176 so that's what I'm thinking instead of it just being 833 00:44:22,176 --> 00:44:25,563 on the citizens here that everybody that drives through 834 00:44:25,563 --> 00:44:29,701 the area helps pay for it that's why I thought the gas -- 835 00:44:29,701 --> 00:44:32,850 Chair Altman: Be a part of the service fee those charges 836 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:34,485 in the county -- 837 00:44:34,723 --> 00:44:38,123 >> If they have an electric bill yes. 838 00:44:38,123 --> 00:44:41,867 >> Looking at the numbers coming in this will help alleviate you 839 00:44:41,867 --> 00:44:45,896 guys for next year and hopefully we can not raise taxes next year 840 00:44:45,896 --> 00:44:47,600 at all and still be able to cover costs. 841 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,400 But the amendment three is looking pretty daunting 842 00:44:54,755 --> 00:44:58,355 >> I'm not gonna call that one. 843 00:44:58,856 --> 00:44:59,356 [Laughter] 844 00:44:59,356 --> 00:45:00,267 >> Mr. Chair. 845 00:45:00,267 --> 00:45:04,730 Again not to be difficult but if you're charging electric vehicle 846 00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:08,273 with solar, there is no, there's not 847 00:45:08,348 --> 00:45:11,283 going to be a fee from a tax collector. 848 00:45:11,283 --> 00:45:14,136 Chair Altman: That's right that's exactly -- 849 00:45:14,136 --> 00:45:17,676 and good for you if you're using solar -- 850 00:45:17,676 --> 00:45:19,843 >> I'm with you I gave you guys a little solar panel 851 00:45:19,843 --> 00:45:21,648 to demonstrate that you can do this. 852 00:45:21,648 --> 00:45:24,453 And thankfully there's no one charging 853 00:45:24,453 --> 00:45:27,249 you to charge your phone up or what have you. 854 00:45:27,249 --> 00:45:29,863 So we would get nothing. 855 00:45:29,863 --> 00:45:32,243 You know for the electric vehicles -- 856 00:45:32,243 --> 00:45:35,243 Chair Altman: That's not a lot. 857 00:45:35,243 --> 00:45:38,353 >> I can share that the last several years with 858 00:45:38,353 --> 00:45:42,830 the legislature they have had no appetite to increase fees. 859 00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:45,731 So I don't see that being something 860 00:45:45,731 --> 00:45:48,203 they would be in favor of. 861 00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:51,963 Chair Altman: Have an appetite because they've increased fees 862 00:45:51,963 --> 00:45:53,923 on counties and local governments. 863 00:45:53,923 --> 00:45:57,315 >> But not fees that are directly connected to them 864 00:45:57,315 --> 00:45:59,403 and those fees are. 865 00:45:59,403 --> 00:46:03,283 If you don't have any other questions I will sit back down. 866 00:46:03,283 --> 00:46:06,830 Chair Altman: You don't have to. 867 00:46:06,830 --> 00:46:10,216 >> I don't want to be up there. 868 00:46:10,216 --> 00:46:10,716 [Laughter] 869 00:46:10,716 --> 00:46:13,160 Chair Altman: Well we have a lot to talk about as we move forward 870 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,474 additional budget workshops I think 871 00:46:14,474 --> 00:46:17,611 the commission's really done a phenomenal job up to this point. 872 00:46:17,611 --> 00:46:19,556 And we have one more budget hearing 873 00:46:19,556 --> 00:46:24,203 and if we get through it fine and Jim, I see you. 874 00:46:24,203 --> 00:46:27,673 >> Yeah Mr. Chair just a couple questions for you to make 875 00:46:27,673 --> 00:46:31,600 the vote is when would you like it brought back. 876 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,363 Tax collectors correct but we'll look to see what some states, 877 00:46:34,363 --> 00:46:35,953 I vaguely recall some states charging 878 00:46:35,953 --> 00:46:38,286 registration fee we can always give you the information. 879 00:46:38,286 --> 00:46:40,429 I'll point out the, and I'm gonna 880 00:46:40,429 --> 00:46:42,253 get it wrong public utility taxed I believe 881 00:46:42,253 --> 00:46:43,433 that's what it's called. 882 00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:46,910 That's collected every city collects it 883 00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:47,543 with the county does not. 884 00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:50,670 So I don't know if you can use it for general funds 885 00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:51,743 so you might have some cities already 886 00:46:51,743 --> 00:46:54,643 using it for roadways improvements or transportation 887 00:46:54,643 --> 00:46:55,200 improvements. 888 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,154 And she beat me to it. 889 00:46:58,154 --> 00:47:00,243 Third note tax collectors absolutely correct 890 00:47:00,243 --> 00:47:02,160 because I bought a car and paid the impact fee 891 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,630 and then got it refunded. 892 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:08,263 Those 36 years ago or whatever it was. 893 00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:13,260 Chair Altman: Okay. 894 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:14,595 There's a motion and a second. 895 00:47:14,595 --> 00:47:15,320 Any discussion? 896 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,920 All in favor say aye aye? 897 00:47:19,816 --> 00:47:21,109 Opposed? 898 00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:25,909 Passes -- Commissioner Goodson I didn't hear you. 899 00:47:27,283 --> 00:47:29,683 >> I'm sorry what -- 900 00:47:30,483 --> 00:47:33,403 Chair Altman: Repeat that motion. 901 00:47:33,403 --> 00:47:37,600 >> Yes Commissioner Goodson I would just like to direct staff 902 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,178 to come back with data for us next week so that come out this 903 00:47:40,178 --> 00:47:45,123 next week so we can look at it and maybe make a decision 904 00:47:45,123 --> 00:47:48,230 on whether or not we would be interested in the local option 905 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:49,243 gas tax. 906 00:47:49,243 --> 00:47:52,623 Chair Altman: Okay Commissioner I voted yes for that 907 00:47:52,623 --> 00:47:54,203 and I'll vote yes again. 908 00:47:54,203 --> 00:47:57,644 Chair Altman: Okay yes thank you that's a four one 909 00:47:57,644 --> 00:48:00,211 vote with Commissioner Feldner voting against. 910 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:03,211 Okay our next district two. 911 00:48:03,629 --> 00:48:06,830 Commissioner Goodson do you have a report? 912 00:48:06,830 --> 00:48:08,483 >> Not at all sir. 913 00:48:10,763 --> 00:48:13,163 Chair Altman: Commissioner Goodson. 914 00:48:15,803 --> 00:48:18,918 >> So I understand today it's the chair's birthday. 915 00:48:18,918 --> 00:48:20,583 Does that sound right? 916 00:48:20,583 --> 00:48:23,723 So I think we should all sing Happy Birthday. 917 00:48:23,723 --> 00:48:27,300 Chair Altman: Oh that would be wonderful thank you. 918 00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:29,403 >> Happy birthday to you. 919 00:48:31,603 --> 00:48:34,300 Happy birthday to you. 920 00:48:34,675 --> 00:48:37,750 Happy birthday dear (Indistinct) 921 00:48:40,243 --> 00:48:43,243 [Laughter] Happy birthday to you. 922 00:48:44,961 --> 00:48:46,961 [Applause] 923 00:48:47,556 --> 00:48:49,723 Chair Altman: Thank you that is a wonderful thought. 924 00:48:49,723 --> 00:48:50,336 Appreciate it. 925 00:48:50,336 --> 00:48:52,336 It's wonderful. 926 00:48:55,340 --> 00:48:57,340 >> (Indistinct) 927 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,620 [Laughter] 928 00:48:57,620 --> 00:48:59,620 Chair Altman:71 today. 929 00:48:59,913 --> 00:49:00,678 71. 930 00:49:00,678 --> 00:49:03,678 I'm thankful to be here. 931 00:49:04,403 --> 00:49:06,603 And thankful to all of you. 932 00:49:06,603 --> 00:49:07,429 Here today. 933 00:49:07,429 --> 00:49:09,736 And I have no report. 934 00:49:09,736 --> 00:49:12,736 And I think that's it. 935 00:49:13,343 --> 00:49:14,343 The meeting's adjourned. 936 00:49:14,343 --> 00:49:16,343 Thank you. 937 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,115 >> The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any 938 00:49:20,115 --> 00:49:22,803 period of public comment do not necessarily reflect the views 939 00:49:22,803 --> 00:49:24,803 or opinions --