1 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Andrew Connors: Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 2 00:02:53,396 --> 00:02:56,210 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 3 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:56,330 and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 4 00:02:56,330 --> 00:03:00,233 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 5 00:03:13,746 --> 00:03:18,947 Let us hold a moment of silence in memory of what happened 25 6 00:03:18,947 --> 00:03:20,947 years ago . 7 00:03:27,922 --> 00:03:30,322 Call the roll please. 8 00:03:34,819 --> 00:03:36,819 [Roll call] 9 00:04:02,734 --> 00:04:04,567 Georganna Gillette: I do want to acknowledge 10 00:04:04,567 --> 00:04:10,567 we have one alternate today, but the member is present. 11 00:04:20,834 --> 00:04:25,797 Andrew Connors: We're going to ask that we go in a different 12 00:04:25,797 --> 00:04:27,797 order . 13 00:04:36,614 --> 00:04:41,414 The motion carries unanimously thank you very much. 14 00:04:49,709 --> 00:04:52,907 Mr. Forrester: We'll be having a nine over 11 remembrance 15 00:04:52,907 --> 00:04:59,507 ceremony in City Hall tonight you are all welcome to come . 16 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:15,809 It's 830 in the morning on September 11th we've got some 17 00:05:17,767 --> 00:05:20,167 outstanding speakers, thank you. 18 00:05:38,827 --> 00:05:44,827 They're starting to run at six in the morning tomorrow . 19 00:06:03,955 --> 00:06:08,755 Andrew Connors: We are on to item 6A. 20 00:06:16,774 --> 00:06:19,107 Georganna Gillette: It's likely everyone has heard about 21 00:06:19,107 --> 00:06:21,507 the award , My apologies . 22 00:06:43,267 --> 00:06:48,667 As bill Crow, the senior engineer for Port Canaveral 23 00:06:49,787 --> 00:06:53,853 comes up, it's been working with the Department of Transportation 24 00:06:53,853 --> 00:06:58,653 on a modification to the energy and this 25 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:07,900 is a project that is going to be really very important to traffic 26 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:12,227 and although it is going to be completely funded by the port 27 00:07:12,227 --> 00:07:15,435 it's going to be a major project that 28 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:19,370 really should be reflected in the long range transportation 29 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:19,847 plan. 30 00:07:19,847 --> 00:07:22,963 At this time we are going to have Bill give 31 00:07:22,963 --> 00:07:25,963 a brief presentation on that. 32 00:07:32,947 --> 00:07:36,547 Bill: As Georganna Mentioned, I am 33 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:48,965 the VP of Managing and construction for Port Authority 34 00:07:48,965 --> 00:07:52,565 and have been here almost 12 years, 35 00:07:53,752 --> 00:08:00,341 I'm really sad to see his tenure Start to wind down, 36 00:08:00,341 --> 00:08:05,659 some of my colleagues are here in the audience 37 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:10,750 and they have served faithfully in the technical Advisory 38 00:08:10,750 --> 00:08:13,667 committee level for a number of years. 39 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:18,707 They let me get up here and do the dog and pony show, 40 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:24,333 I must be brief so I will pass on that. 41 00:08:24,333 --> 00:08:28,558 Moving right along, I have a few slides 42 00:08:28,558 --> 00:08:31,542 that we are going to roll through. 43 00:08:31,542 --> 00:08:36,942 Many of you have probably heard about Cruise terminal 44 00:08:37,595 --> 00:08:40,747 for Project, I will connect these dots for you. 45 00:08:40,747 --> 00:08:44,139 Every good engineer must have a laser pointer in their pocket, 46 00:08:44,139 --> 00:08:45,739 which I came with today. 47 00:08:45,739 --> 00:08:49,970 This is the Port Authority, this red box right here 48 00:08:49,970 --> 00:08:52,970 is the future site for the development of cruise terminal 49 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:55,427 for, it's roughly where the current points 50 00:08:55,427 --> 00:08:59,215 Marina is if you are familiar with the port, 51 00:08:59,215 --> 00:09:03,827 so it will be our next mega ship cruise terminal coming 52 00:09:03,827 --> 00:09:06,227 online the summer of 2030. 53 00:09:06,931 --> 00:09:10,371 We're docking vessels that produce a lot of traffic, 54 00:09:10,371 --> 00:09:14,907 a lot of passengers, about 8000 passengers on board 55 00:09:14,907 --> 00:09:16,739 the vessel that's going to be visiting, 56 00:09:16,739 --> 00:09:20,939 so we are very excited about that. 57 00:09:21,707 --> 00:09:25,640 Moving on, there's a couple of other developments 58 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,859 you probably have heard about as well. 59 00:09:27,859 --> 00:09:30,887 One being the future aquarium, we've 60 00:09:30,887 --> 00:09:34,227 been working closely with the East Coast Zoological Foundation 61 00:09:34,227 --> 00:09:40,107 on the development of a roughly 14 acre parcel on our river site 62 00:09:40,107 --> 00:09:42,843 for the development of a future aquarium. 63 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:46,520 I can share good news that just a couple of weeks 64 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,727 ago we were able to give them their conditional site plan, 65 00:09:49,727 --> 00:09:52,980 it really does open the doors for them 66 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:55,987 to move forward with the leasing agreement and transitioning 67 00:09:55,987 --> 00:09:58,287 the development agreement to a lease agreement 68 00:09:58,287 --> 00:10:03,870 and ultimately supporting their groundbreaking Lake this fall. 69 00:10:09,137 --> 00:10:14,537 In addition to Cape Marina, points are coming off 70 00:10:15,495 --> 00:10:20,987 of their lease, it's a 50 year plus lease that have been around 71 00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:23,670 since the mid 70s. 72 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:28,267 We are redeveloping that, making it into a more dense Marina 73 00:10:28,267 --> 00:10:30,267 facility, more efficient. 74 00:10:32,187 --> 00:10:35,787 Deployment of offshore, nearshore commercial fishing 75 00:10:35,907 --> 00:10:38,512 boats is going to be the focus of that Marina 76 00:10:38,512 --> 00:10:42,963 and in order to support all of this growth, 77 00:10:42,963 --> 00:10:47,367 we are proposing this overpass that you see right here. 78 00:10:47,367 --> 00:10:49,882 This is George King Boulevard, many of you 79 00:10:49,882 --> 00:10:51,507 have traveled on George King Boulevard. 80 00:10:51,507 --> 00:10:56,270 It is connected to 528 and a one a 81 00:10:56,270 --> 00:10:59,627 through a single point urban interchange. 82 00:10:59,787 --> 00:11:04,900 For decades it has only had access on the east side, 83 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,157 so in effect we've only been using 84 00:11:07,157 --> 00:11:10,757 50% of the capacity of that interchange. 85 00:11:12,787 --> 00:11:18,877 We in recent years have sought additional methods to get access 86 00:11:18,877 --> 00:11:22,477 onto 528, working closely with district five . 87 00:11:30,859 --> 00:11:33,927 It's been very problematic because it's 88 00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:37,887 been elevating the corridor for a number of years 89 00:11:37,887 --> 00:11:41,426 and what we have been able to decouple in this project is 90 00:11:41,426 --> 00:11:46,270 our overpass will actually go up and over 91 00:11:46,270 --> 00:11:49,627 the future elevated cross section of 528, 92 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,720 so we're very excited about that and it's 93 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,920 been a great breakthrough with district five. 94 00:11:58,117 --> 00:12:01,867 That represents that overpass that would take traffic off 95 00:12:01,867 --> 00:12:06,403 of the west side of the 528 Boulevard interchange 96 00:12:06,403 --> 00:12:10,507 and deliver it right into the Cove District for retail 97 00:12:10,507 --> 00:12:15,867 commercial purposes, also assist us with CT four and provide 98 00:12:15,867 --> 00:12:20,587 a direct access back over to the aquarium parcel from the Cove 99 00:12:20,587 --> 00:12:24,907 District, so we are really excited about the benefit this 100 00:12:24,907 --> 00:12:30,907 overpass is going to bring to port and its users . 101 00:12:40,747 --> 00:12:44,907 We will be working closely with their design engineer 102 00:12:44,907 --> 00:12:49,767 and our designers to make sure that any impacts to the parking 103 00:12:49,767 --> 00:12:53,367 lot are accommodated, including in both 104 00:12:53,483 --> 00:12:56,362 their design and our design. 105 00:12:56,362 --> 00:13:00,323 Intentionally as this representation of the overpass 106 00:13:00,323 --> 00:13:05,227 crosses over the 528 corridor, it comes to an abrupt end 107 00:13:05,227 --> 00:13:08,727 and it doesn't mean there's going to be an Evil Knievel 108 00:13:08,727 --> 00:13:12,720 ramp at the end, just means we are still 109 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,670 fine tuning exactly how this overpass will 110 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:22,867 land on the north and east Side of the A one a 520 curve. 111 00:13:24,187 --> 00:13:27,621 Over the next six months, as we put together our criteria 112 00:13:27,621 --> 00:13:29,371 package we will be able to fully determine 113 00:13:29,371 --> 00:13:32,371 the limits of this overpass. 114 00:13:32,987 --> 00:13:36,247 Just to end with a discussion about schedule, 115 00:13:36,247 --> 00:13:39,247 we talked about opening midsummer 2030 116 00:13:39,507 --> 00:13:45,587 and building up to that, we have a season of permitting 117 00:13:45,587 --> 00:13:49,235 and development of the design criteria package. 118 00:13:49,235 --> 00:13:54,397 We will have a solicitation at the end of calendar 119 00:13:54,397 --> 00:14:00,533 year for design contractors and we will enter into a six month 120 00:14:00,533 --> 00:14:02,533 design phase early 2028. 121 00:14:04,507 --> 00:14:07,507 Construction is approximately September of 2028 122 00:14:09,392 --> 00:14:12,670 and wrap up almost a year and a half 123 00:14:12,670 --> 00:14:14,927 later at the end of 2028 and 2029, 124 00:14:14,927 --> 00:14:18,467 this is roughly six months prior to our summer 125 00:14:18,467 --> 00:14:23,267 plan in the terminal in the summer of 2030 126 00:14:24,569 --> 00:14:26,520 so that gives you an idea of the scope 127 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,955 and the breadth of the project, 55 million 128 00:14:29,955 --> 00:14:33,555 is the latest budget programed in 129 00:14:33,819 --> 00:14:37,617 to give you an idea of the magnitude of the project. 130 00:14:37,617 --> 00:14:44,217 That is my summary, are there any questions I can field? 131 00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:53,195 Speaker: How much did you estimate it's going to cost? 132 00:14:53,195 --> 00:14:57,270 Bill Crow: It's been a while since we've done an overpass, 133 00:14:57,270 --> 00:14:59,237 every time I get a new bid I'm shocked. 134 00:14:59,237 --> 00:15:04,370 Right now we're budgeting $50 million for this overpass. 135 00:15:11,947 --> 00:15:13,947 100%. 136 00:15:32,467 --> 00:15:35,827 What are the investors for the aquarium saying 137 00:15:35,827 --> 00:15:41,827 about this having an overpass go through Their beautiful area? 138 00:15:50,827 --> 00:15:56,227 Bill Crow: They're excited about the free covered parking. 139 00:15:56,267 --> 00:16:00,467 Sebastian Park, my favorite place to park 140 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:04,207 is underneath the overpass because in Florida inevitably 141 00:16:04,207 --> 00:16:07,123 it does rain and it's just a great provided 142 00:16:07,123 --> 00:16:10,123 safe haven to park under. 143 00:16:16,747 --> 00:16:22,107 The east coast Zoological Foundation is more than happy 144 00:16:22,107 --> 00:16:29,307 to work with us , the best place to place this overpass is 145 00:16:29,987 --> 00:16:34,115 through the parking lot so they're rearranging of islands 146 00:16:34,115 --> 00:16:38,327 and if we need to expand their property line to the south 147 00:16:38,327 --> 00:16:44,907 to accommodate, let's say we lose half a dozen or a dozen 148 00:16:44,907 --> 00:16:49,387 parking spaces, the Port Authority will gladly do that. 149 00:16:49,387 --> 00:16:52,524 We are working hand in hand with them 150 00:16:52,524 --> 00:16:59,724 and this will be a successful win win project for both teams. 151 00:17:06,830 --> 00:17:11,779 Speaker: I know there's parts of Brevard Zoo that they couldn't 152 00:17:11,779 --> 00:17:17,267 build zoo type things because it was so close to the highway 153 00:17:17,267 --> 00:17:20,953 and whatever they had within the confines of the zoo 154 00:17:20,953 --> 00:17:26,115 and the aquarium, I know the water heavy trucks shaking 155 00:17:26,115 --> 00:17:29,893 so that's what that was about because I know 95 156 00:17:29,893 --> 00:17:33,920 is a concern for Brevard Zoo and they have an old area 157 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,237 that they can't use just because the sound of the vehicles 158 00:17:38,237 --> 00:17:44,237 and everything else, that was a concern that I had. 159 00:17:56,246 --> 00:18:00,270 Bill Crow: Those speeds are highway speeds, 160 00:18:00,270 --> 00:18:07,827 the speeds on our roadway are going to be much less than that 161 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:09,940 . 162 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:12,997 We've recently had to change out all the windows of our Maritime 163 00:18:12,997 --> 00:18:17,197 center with regards to sounds and pressure 164 00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:25,517 events which exceeds anything we have at the port traffic wise. 165 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:38,835 Mr. Forrester: If the overpass starts taking up parking spaces 166 00:18:38,835 --> 00:18:44,719 does the Port Authority own what is south to the parking lot 167 00:18:44,719 --> 00:18:46,719 there? 168 00:18:47,139 --> 00:18:51,251 Bill Crow: Yes, we've already started to have that discussion. 169 00:18:51,251 --> 00:18:53,867 We own the parcel and so our ability 170 00:18:53,867 --> 00:18:56,649 to flex that southern border as we 171 00:18:56,649 --> 00:18:59,619 end at parking spaces in their parking lot 172 00:18:59,619 --> 00:19:03,219 has already been discussed and contemplated. 173 00:19:12,469 --> 00:19:14,427 Andrew Connors: When did you guys first come up 174 00:19:14,427 --> 00:19:18,270 with this idea of this flyover? 175 00:19:18,403 --> 00:19:25,300 Bill Crow: It was brought to us by former FDOT Secretary. 176 00:19:30,187 --> 00:19:35,587 Was then subsequently CEO of GOA Orlando International Airport 177 00:19:40,627 --> 00:19:44,771 and has offered his advice over the years with various traffic 178 00:19:44,771 --> 00:19:47,907 related items, so it was roughly last November 179 00:19:47,907 --> 00:19:51,267 if I recall correctly the first time 180 00:19:51,267 --> 00:19:55,670 I heard Kevin start to talk about the single point 181 00:19:55,670 --> 00:19:58,720 urban interchange, and the fact that we are only 182 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:04,720 using roughly 50% and have only been using 50% of that fDOT 183 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:09,400 build facility from a number of decades ago. 184 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,490 Just off the mat here on the left hand side 185 00:20:13,490 --> 00:20:17,207 we will see a very similar shaped parcel of land 186 00:20:17,207 --> 00:20:22,203 and a very similar shaped interchange which actually does 187 00:20:22,203 --> 00:20:28,489 take full advantage of both the North and the south sides of 528 188 00:20:28,489 --> 00:20:30,889 and that is statement 401. 189 00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:36,123 It's off the page, not a clear comparison 190 00:20:36,123 --> 00:20:38,787 but you can start to see from what is visible 191 00:20:38,787 --> 00:20:41,480 that this parcel of land here actually 192 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,527 has the same shape as what was created decades ago, 193 00:20:46,527 --> 00:20:51,307 so it's a very very similar project to be implemented there 194 00:20:51,307 --> 00:20:54,779 and we were definitely grateful that Kevin brought that 195 00:20:54,779 --> 00:20:58,379 to our attention late last fall. 196 00:21:03,264 --> 00:21:05,347 Andrew Connors: When did you enter into a proposed 197 00:21:05,347 --> 00:21:07,347 agreement for development? 198 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:13,212 Bill Crow: I don't have the date off the top of my head, 199 00:21:13,212 --> 00:21:16,787 I remember discussions with the zoo going back to 2017. 200 00:21:16,787 --> 00:21:21,587 The formal agreement I would guess is probably 2021, 201 00:21:24,339 --> 00:21:29,139 we can certainly find that date for you. 202 00:21:34,987 --> 00:21:40,387 From the standpoint of we've been discussing some time 203 00:21:41,579 --> 00:21:45,419 our ability to increase the access and currently 204 00:21:45,419 --> 00:21:48,559 on the south side of the port I would venture 205 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:53,670 to guess 80% or greater of our traffic still 206 00:21:53,670 --> 00:21:58,467 only has one on ramp onto the westbound 528 corridor, 207 00:21:59,357 --> 00:22:04,157 and that is limited access area for FDOT. 208 00:22:08,527 --> 00:22:10,819 we recognize the widening and elevating of the corridor 209 00:22:10,819 --> 00:22:13,835 is critical for the region, critical for the county 210 00:22:13,835 --> 00:22:17,257 for many reasons, critical for traffic capacity. 211 00:22:17,257 --> 00:22:21,387 Our ability to again take advantage of infrastructure that 212 00:22:21,387 --> 00:22:24,251 has existed now for a number of years 213 00:22:24,251 --> 00:22:28,451 where we've only been utilizing 50% of it 214 00:22:29,387 --> 00:22:33,987 to take advantage of the other half of that to allow better 215 00:22:33,987 --> 00:22:40,587 flow of traffic into a district will have a beneficial effect 216 00:22:41,371 --> 00:22:43,371 on 528. 217 00:22:54,938 --> 00:22:56,980 Andrew Connors: Why is this the first time we are 218 00:22:56,980 --> 00:23:00,534 hearing about it as a board? 219 00:23:00,534 --> 00:23:03,280 the Space Coast organization exists so we all 220 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280 move together as a county. 221 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:10,653 our board should have some opportunity 222 00:23:10,653 --> 00:23:12,947 in helping facilitate this, you are 223 00:23:12,947 --> 00:23:18,347 talking about working with another organization for a while 224 00:23:19,389 --> 00:23:20,953 and the only reason we got wind of it 225 00:23:20,953 --> 00:23:22,995 is because we heard about it through a grapevine. 226 00:23:22,995 --> 00:23:25,437 I feel like there's some disconnect here 227 00:23:25,437 --> 00:23:28,270 because as we all represent constituents around Brevard 228 00:23:28,270 --> 00:23:32,227 County, Brevard County really Prefers our aquarium, 229 00:23:35,467 --> 00:23:38,467 over $120 million has been raised 230 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:43,220 for this for our community and to see this project 231 00:23:43,220 --> 00:23:46,579 it doesn't quite sit right for a lot of us. 232 00:23:46,579 --> 00:23:50,179 Doing this overpass, this is just 233 00:23:50,587 --> 00:23:56,587 to address the next mega ship coming in in 2030, correct? 234 00:23:59,558 --> 00:24:02,363 Bill Crow: For the existing Rodney Ketcham boat 235 00:24:02,363 --> 00:24:08,300 ramp which is at the west end of the port, the Cove district, 236 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:10,627 back feeding from the Cove District 237 00:24:10,627 --> 00:24:15,427 to the aquarium parcel in addition to CT 4 238 00:24:20,170 --> 00:24:20,670 . 239 00:24:20,670 --> 00:24:26,700 Those vessels don't exist yet, our largest cruise ship 240 00:24:29,267 --> 00:24:32,267 is a very large ship. 241 00:24:34,834 --> 00:24:38,547 Andrew Connors: Right now it backs up all the way to us one, 242 00:24:38,547 --> 00:24:40,817 so our residents are feeling frustration. 243 00:24:40,817 --> 00:24:43,867 If this is only going to alleviate the traffic when 244 00:24:43,867 --> 00:24:48,427 you get to the port just to redirect to the next cruise 245 00:24:48,427 --> 00:24:52,270 ship, what are we doing about 528? 246 00:24:54,878 --> 00:24:57,651 Bill Crow: This is a huge help to 528 traffic 247 00:24:57,651 --> 00:25:01,581 accessing the port, as long as I've 248 00:25:01,581 --> 00:25:06,400 been at the port, a great use of the roadways and the lands 249 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,204 and the resources that we have control over. 250 00:25:09,204 --> 00:25:12,470 I think we as the Port Authority, 251 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:15,127 I don't want to speak in place of the commissioner, 252 00:25:15,127 --> 00:25:18,307 would have much preferred to see the widening 253 00:25:18,307 --> 00:25:23,107 and elevating of the 528 Corridor occur by now. 254 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,640 That is not within my department's control, 255 00:25:30,867 --> 00:25:34,347 but what is within our control is roadways, 256 00:25:34,347 --> 00:25:37,467 improvements, efficiencies that we can build on our lands 257 00:25:37,467 --> 00:25:41,670 with our resources that then have 258 00:25:41,227 --> 00:25:44,670 a beneficial downstream effect, will 259 00:25:44,670 --> 00:25:48,867 have a beneficial downstream effect to traffic on 528. 260 00:25:56,570 --> 00:26:01,970 Andrew Connors: If you handed the money to FDOT, 261 00:26:03,723 --> 00:26:07,923 don't you think they would do it? 262 00:26:11,288 --> 00:26:12,871 Speaker: It looks like this road would 263 00:26:12,871 --> 00:26:15,187 help internalize a lot of traffic, 264 00:26:15,187 --> 00:26:18,787 but then congestion getting up to 528. 265 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:25,837 Bill Crow: It adds queuing capacity and enhanced 266 00:26:25,837 --> 00:26:29,400 routing from the aquarium site to the Cove. 267 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,571 If we were not to build this road, 268 00:26:31,571 --> 00:26:36,635 the traffic from the Cove and park in aquarium site 269 00:26:36,635 --> 00:26:42,635 would have to pass through the congested 528 and George King 270 00:26:47,267 --> 00:26:49,257 Boulevard to pass through. 271 00:26:49,257 --> 00:26:52,617 This provides great relief to that specific movement 272 00:26:52,617 --> 00:26:58,170 in addition to general increased queuing capacity of port. 273 00:27:06,209 --> 00:27:10,827 Speaker: The concern is the overall traffic flow on 528, 274 00:27:10,827 --> 00:27:14,307 rather than just this intersection which I don't see 275 00:27:14,307 --> 00:27:17,307 impacting the flow of traffic . 276 00:27:28,507 --> 00:27:35,707 Until 528 is widened or fixed I don't see it's going to have 277 00:27:37,270 --> 00:27:39,270 much impact . 278 00:27:43,355 --> 00:27:48,627 Bill Crow: The only improvement to capacity on the 528 corridor 279 00:27:48,627 --> 00:27:51,270 to Orlando is widening . 280 00:28:03,327 --> 00:28:07,527 it makes it easier for them to 281 00:28:12,670 --> 00:28:14,967 Andrew Connors: It makes it easier 282 00:28:14,967 --> 00:28:19,767 for them to get to the cruise terminal. 283 00:28:19,873 --> 00:28:24,579 Speaker: The cruise ship is coming no matter what , 284 00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:27,947 the cruise terminal is coming no matter what. 285 00:28:27,947 --> 00:28:31,547 Certainly we would like to widen 528 286 00:28:31,695 --> 00:28:37,950 but no one's got the money to widen it. 287 00:28:55,987 --> 00:29:00,787 We don't have the authority to fund it. 288 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:07,100 any project other than what's on the board . 289 00:29:17,694 --> 00:29:20,270 Speaker: I was told it's going to help alleviate traffic 290 00:29:20,270 --> 00:29:23,635 because people are coming to take the train, 291 00:29:23,635 --> 00:29:27,867 but I understand the port is not contributing anything 292 00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:30,827 toward the station and here today you are 293 00:29:30,827 --> 00:29:33,227 talking about traffic on 528. 294 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:47,347 Speaker: How does this fit in with the 401 drawbridge, 295 00:29:47,347 --> 00:29:52,367 because currently because of cruise ship traffic and people 296 00:29:52,367 --> 00:29:57,270 trying to get into the Cape, the morning 297 00:29:57,270 --> 00:30:00,627 when the drawbridge goes up traffic 298 00:30:00,987 --> 00:30:05,910 backs up from there all the way down state route three sometimes 299 00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:06,483 in the morning. 300 00:30:06,483 --> 00:30:09,815 It could take you an hour to get off beeline 301 00:30:09,815 --> 00:30:12,227 to make it to the Cape South Gate which is 302 00:30:12,227 --> 00:30:13,975 nearly every morning currently. 303 00:30:13,975 --> 00:30:18,331 We already know we have that drawbridge there and that 304 00:30:18,331 --> 00:30:23,530 traffic jam that's going on right on the edge of your map up 305 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:27,127 there, and more people are going to try to get through that 306 00:30:27,127 --> 00:30:31,360 section there that curves off to 401 and goes over that bridge 307 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360 trying to get over there . 308 00:30:36,807 --> 00:30:42,207 The question is when does the 401 bridge get fixed? 309 00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:45,718 get that eliminated out of the way 310 00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:49,347 so you could have a freer flow of traffic down the road. 311 00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:57,147 Right now, this is nice, but the bottleneck is still west of it. 312 00:30:57,902 --> 00:31:00,647 when all the traffic is at a dead stop from State route three 313 00:31:00,647 --> 00:31:03,247 all the way down before you can even get here, 314 00:31:03,247 --> 00:31:05,793 and this is not going to get anything 315 00:31:05,793 --> 00:31:08,371 if you can't get to your new road 316 00:31:08,371 --> 00:31:11,371 because you're stuck in traffic. 317 00:31:11,991 --> 00:31:15,295 My thoughts are the drawbridge thing 318 00:31:15,295 --> 00:31:21,895 come into play, when the ships are there in the morning 319 00:31:22,653 --> 00:31:28,530 that huge thing is a problem now every day. 320 00:31:28,883 --> 00:31:31,187 Bill Crow: For a while we've been 321 00:31:31,187 --> 00:31:33,315 working with the Army Corps of Engineers, 322 00:31:33,315 --> 00:31:39,315 I think everyone knows FDOT owns and operates the bridges 323 00:31:40,611 --> 00:31:43,800 and the Army Corps of Engineers own and operate 324 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,491 the locks, that has been the system since its inception. 325 00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:51,691 Only in more recent years have we 326 00:31:52,324 --> 00:31:56,637 been able to work with the Lock Master 327 00:31:56,637 --> 00:32:00,237 so that those heavy traffic opportunities, 328 00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:03,803 the drawbridge can stay closed, we 329 00:32:03,803 --> 00:32:07,307 can consolidate a number of boats 330 00:32:07,307 --> 00:32:10,670 before opening the locks which automatically 331 00:32:10,670 --> 00:32:13,367 triggers the opening of the controlled bridges. 332 00:32:13,367 --> 00:32:18,167 We agree and our current CO has been 333 00:32:20,741 --> 00:32:28,541 a big proponent of the study to replace the bridges with a fixed 334 00:32:29,597 --> 00:32:30,527 bridge. 335 00:32:30,527 --> 00:32:37,727 It was identified the price tag is about $260 million is what I 336 00:32:40,721 --> 00:32:45,521 understand, so that aggregate total between both sections 337 00:32:46,555 --> 00:32:52,555 of 528, state road three to George King and the 41 bridge 338 00:32:53,270 --> 00:32:57,827 totals about $1 billion, that is a substantial investment 339 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,720 for roadways that serve all of Brevard County residents 340 00:33:04,427 --> 00:33:08,147 and that service all the local hotels and neighboring cities 341 00:33:08,147 --> 00:33:12,179 and all of those revenue streams that come from tourism, 342 00:33:12,179 --> 00:33:18,779 so we fully agree that both the widening projects and the 401 343 00:33:23,227 --> 00:33:25,627 replacement are priority projects . 344 00:33:43,209 --> 00:33:45,297 Speaker: It's not just the cruise ship terminal, 345 00:33:45,297 --> 00:33:48,372 everyone knows with all the expansion going on to the Cape 346 00:33:48,372 --> 00:33:51,555 and all the launch pads we probably almost quadruple 347 00:33:51,555 --> 00:33:54,175 the amount of people coming through the south gate which 348 00:33:54,175 --> 00:33:55,747 means all those people are coming 349 00:33:55,747 --> 00:34:01,147 through that section coming up and across 528 to squeeze 350 00:34:02,547 --> 00:34:09,347 into the Cape which can take you an hour in the morning just 351 00:34:09,347 --> 00:34:13,152 to get from 528 to the south gate which is a couple of miles 352 00:34:13,152 --> 00:34:14,107 is all that is, 353 00:34:14,107 --> 00:34:16,781 even if the bridge doesn't go up and even 354 00:34:16,781 --> 00:34:19,387 if you don't have a cruise ship in you already 355 00:34:19,387 --> 00:34:23,930 have that traffic at 630 in the morning 356 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:26,619 before you start talking about tourists and cruise ship people 357 00:34:26,619 --> 00:34:30,490 and everything coming in there, which I understand 358 00:34:30,490 --> 00:34:36,927 the project and the port's page, who am I to say you 359 00:34:36,927 --> 00:34:41,267 can't spend your money and build your road 360 00:34:41,267 --> 00:34:46,984 but I just don't think that the payoff in the long run 361 00:34:46,984 --> 00:34:51,467 is really going to be seen until 401 bridge 362 00:34:51,467 --> 00:34:54,960 and 528 actually have it, I think 363 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,360 that's when it will open that up and you could get more use out 364 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,360 of that. 365 00:35:11,827 --> 00:35:15,307 Trying to get in and out of the Cape from State Route 366 00:35:15,307 --> 00:35:21,907 three or down through that corridor is a whole other issue. 367 00:35:24,204 --> 00:35:25,991 Bill Crow: We've observed the same thing, 368 00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:29,750 the increase in traffic from the space center has been dramatic. 369 00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:33,235 We were shocked with the south gate you brought up 370 00:35:33,235 --> 00:35:38,635 a couple Just the tremendous backup with contractors getting 371 00:35:40,347 --> 00:35:45,307 into the south gate not only replace the one launch 372 00:35:45,307 --> 00:35:48,298 pad but now they are doing a dual launch pad, 373 00:35:48,298 --> 00:35:51,855 so it's a great story for the workforce, 374 00:35:51,855 --> 00:35:54,787 there are so many jobs being created not 375 00:35:54,787 --> 00:35:57,947 just at the port but space center commercial space 376 00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:00,640 and that does bring with it commercial traffic. 377 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,447 We've seen the same things you are highlighting, getting back 378 00:36:04,447 --> 00:36:08,627 to reinforce what the Port Authority is proposing here, 379 00:36:08,627 --> 00:36:13,139 the best improvements that we can do on lands that we control 380 00:36:13,139 --> 00:36:18,539 with our resources to take advantage of past investments 381 00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:21,177 from FDOT. 382 00:36:23,143 --> 00:36:25,435 we have an interchange that is 50% efficient because it 383 00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:28,510 has no other connector on the west side, that's 384 00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:31,933 what we are planning is actually capitalizing on investments 385 00:36:31,933 --> 00:36:35,443 all of our predecessors made, specifically 386 00:36:35,443 --> 00:36:39,395 in this area that will bring efficiencies to the project. 387 00:36:39,395 --> 00:36:42,995 I love the train, it's definitely 388 00:36:45,127 --> 00:36:47,587 worth the drive to the airport in Miami 389 00:36:47,587 --> 00:36:52,387 to catch that train down to South Florida. 390 00:36:59,658 --> 00:37:02,847 Speaker: What was the reasoning for not getting off at the exit 391 00:37:02,847 --> 00:37:05,227 before just going straight over instead of going 392 00:37:05,227 --> 00:37:07,227 through the aquarium? 393 00:37:09,743 --> 00:37:13,943 Bill Crow: They would not allow that, 394 00:37:14,347 --> 00:37:17,555 they would not allow any further connection to 5/28 corridor 395 00:37:17,555 --> 00:37:22,880 because they are at 60% design for the elevating and widening 396 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,427 of 528, and with an undetermined time frame for when that would 397 00:37:27,427 --> 00:37:31,707 be complete they were unable to pursue any discussions with 398 00:37:31,707 --> 00:37:36,387 that, so we are kind of where we started. 399 00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:41,587 In fact, taking advantage of the other half of the investment 400 00:37:41,587 --> 00:37:46,387 from years ago magically decouples us from that 401 00:37:47,587 --> 00:37:51,587 permitting discussion of the widening and elevating in time 402 00:37:51,587 --> 00:37:57,110 frame for that project from 528, we actually go up and over 403 00:37:57,110 --> 00:38:00,611 their future elevated and widened section, 404 00:38:01,619 --> 00:38:05,947 the civil engineer in me gets excited but I'm sure you can see 405 00:38:05,947 --> 00:38:10,747 just the benefits of that efficiency as well . 406 00:38:24,359 --> 00:38:29,159 Mayor: Will these designs be available as well? 407 00:38:29,868 --> 00:38:34,668 Speaker: Yes, we will send that out, mayor. 408 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:42,530 Mayor: Where is it right now, in preliminary or conceptual? 409 00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:45,640 Bill Crow: Our team of consultants, 410 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,640 supplemented by kimley-horn and associates . 411 00:38:53,689 --> 00:38:59,735 Many of you have heard of them in the transportation arena , 412 00:38:59,735 --> 00:39:04,171 we have engaged them in a scope that will create a design 413 00:39:04,171 --> 00:39:08,747 criteria so we will pursue the design build procurement method 414 00:39:08,747 --> 00:39:12,877 of the facility which begins with design criteria package. 415 00:39:12,877 --> 00:39:18,247 We are now in that process, so as of basically 416 00:39:18,247 --> 00:39:21,607 this month we kicked it off at the commission meeting 417 00:39:21,607 --> 00:39:23,887 through the end of this calendar year 418 00:39:23,887 --> 00:39:30,487 I actually think I have it going toward the design criteria 419 00:39:32,177 --> 00:39:36,977 package, along with conceptual permitting for the roadway 420 00:39:38,227 --> 00:39:40,627 that you see here. 421 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:50,427 Speaker: Have you met with the City of Cape Canaveral 422 00:39:50,427 --> 00:39:52,827 administration on this project? 423 00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:57,387 Bill Crow: I have not, they've continued discussions 424 00:39:57,387 --> 00:40:00,827 on a number of topics related to infrastructure and utilities 425 00:40:00,827 --> 00:40:03,385 with the city, I couldn't tell you 426 00:40:03,385 --> 00:40:09,385 if this specific one was brought up at that meeting. 427 00:40:18,985 --> 00:40:20,769 Georganna Gillette: The design 60, 428 00:40:20,769 --> 00:40:25,653 so it's on the shelf until some construction funding becomes 429 00:40:25,653 --> 00:40:27,653 available . 430 00:40:30,321 --> 00:40:33,267 a recent conversation led me to believe 431 00:40:33,267 --> 00:40:36,155 that they are looking at on the eastern section 432 00:40:36,155 --> 00:40:40,355 528 the department is looking at some very 433 00:40:40,379 --> 00:40:42,779 heavy operational improvements potentially 434 00:40:43,395 --> 00:40:46,995 for 528 just on the eastern section 435 00:40:47,471 --> 00:40:49,947 that they could potentially move forward 436 00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:55,347 in the interim, because the widening is just so expensive 437 00:40:55,347 --> 00:40:59,115 but that section alone I think is 340 million 438 00:40:59,115 --> 00:41:04,160 or something like that and of course the bridge is 439 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,827 260 million, so it appears the department is looking at it. 440 00:41:08,827 --> 00:41:14,285 What can they move forward quickly with some of the savings 441 00:41:14,285 --> 00:41:16,947 that they've been able to get across the board 442 00:41:16,947 --> 00:41:18,947 with transportation projects? 443 00:41:18,992 --> 00:41:24,392 Hoping that that will happen sooner rather than later. 444 00:41:31,563 --> 00:41:36,670 Speaker: The cruise terminals and the traffic that has come, 445 00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:43,867 at the end of the day when we look at this terminal coming, 446 00:41:47,979 --> 00:41:50,297 I think this greatly benefits and increases 447 00:41:50,297 --> 00:41:55,970 the capacity for the port, I'm not sure 448 00:41:55,347 --> 00:41:56,995 how it benefits the greater community 449 00:41:56,995 --> 00:42:00,967 and I hope our city administration can 450 00:42:00,967 --> 00:42:04,711 talk through this because it is something 451 00:42:04,711 --> 00:42:07,387 I know our community has continued 452 00:42:07,387 --> 00:42:10,760 to bring up as a concern. 453 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,960 The port is very good at driving cruise terminal traffic as far , 454 00:42:22,956 --> 00:42:30,107 but we need to talk about them being involved in the community 455 00:42:30,107 --> 00:42:32,107 more. 456 00:42:38,391 --> 00:42:40,337 Speaker: I know there was a study, 457 00:42:40,337 --> 00:42:47,107 how long ago was that and is that obsolete at this point 458 00:42:47,107 --> 00:42:50,707 because it's about increasing that capacity , 459 00:42:54,415 --> 00:42:58,150 so where are we in that 460 00:43:06,555 --> 00:43:08,555 Georganna Gillette: The study was finalized back 461 00:43:08,555 --> 00:43:11,352 in 2016, that was a long time ago. 462 00:43:11,352 --> 00:43:14,782 I believe the department was doing an update because there 463 00:43:14,782 --> 00:43:16,907 were things that have changed from an environmental 464 00:43:16,907 --> 00:43:21,847 standpoint, and getting it ready potentially to move forward 465 00:43:21,847 --> 00:43:24,247 as funding becomes available. 466 00:43:24,393 --> 00:43:29,793 I think all of that is being worked on. 467 00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:48,251 Bill Crow: I don't believe they're planning to redo 468 00:43:48,251 --> 00:43:55,451 the study, it has resulted in a 60% design with the widened road 469 00:44:06,137 --> 00:44:08,137 . 470 00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:11,887 Georganna Gillette: They have a 60% design, 471 00:44:11,887 --> 00:44:15,563 that's not going to change, they just need the construction 472 00:44:15,563 --> 00:44:21,187 money to kind of move it forward or the design build 473 00:44:21,187 --> 00:44:25,387 and whatever they can manage to do. 474 00:44:44,534 --> 00:44:47,451 Mr. Forrester: When the 528 redesign was done 475 00:44:47,451 --> 00:44:52,251 they voted to increase the availability of water 476 00:44:54,579 --> 00:44:59,440 flowing under the roadway in order to assist waterfall. 477 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,400 This board recommended it I guess, 478 00:45:06,611 --> 00:45:12,611 I don't know if it was incorporated in the design. 479 00:45:14,576 --> 00:45:16,451 Georganna Gillette: Yes, basically the bridge 480 00:45:16,451 --> 00:45:21,267 over the banana River would be definitely elevated but also 481 00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:27,267 extended to kind of expand the causeway for the possibility 482 00:45:28,587 --> 00:45:32,787 of one day opening up the flow. 483 00:45:33,147 --> 00:45:37,747 Of course, 520 would also happen to be opened up 484 00:45:37,747 --> 00:45:41,870 for you to really see tangible benefits, 485 00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:45,887 but that was incorporated into the design, yes. 486 00:45:52,271 --> 00:45:57,671 Speaker: Has the port looked at transportation impact fees 487 00:45:58,787 --> 00:46:02,987 to address their traffic impacts on roads. 488 00:46:16,270 --> 00:46:19,927 Bill Crow: Yes, over the past number of years 489 00:46:19,927 --> 00:46:23,530 we developed a very robust fee structure and policy. 490 00:46:23,530 --> 00:46:28,567 When I started, it was a largely a cash based system in the form 491 00:46:28,567 --> 00:46:31,289 of permitting was difficult to document and track, 492 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:37,707 and that was one of the first initiatives was we need 493 00:46:37,707 --> 00:46:42,507 to standardize our transportation and my team with 494 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,400 engineering construction plugged into that , 495 00:46:49,667 --> 00:46:53,507 we began with tolling gantries for commercial transportation. 496 00:46:53,507 --> 00:46:55,907 Busses, shuttles, Ubers, taxis. 497 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:03,733 We do have a fee system that they pay into. 498 00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:08,933 The beauty of the system not just as a financial component, 499 00:47:08,933 --> 00:47:12,435 there's an efficiency component along with it 500 00:47:12,435 --> 00:47:14,247 because it reduces development. 501 00:47:14,247 --> 00:47:19,647 A decade ago providers would come to the port , 502 00:47:22,935 --> 00:47:26,830 park a street or a parking spot, take up space, 503 00:47:26,830 --> 00:47:28,483 cause additional traffic congestion, 504 00:47:29,947 --> 00:47:33,187 and now because of our extensive tolling system our gantries we 505 00:47:33,187 --> 00:47:39,499 can track that and they know they only have a certain window 506 00:47:39,499 --> 00:47:44,163 once they cross in that virtual fence to pick up the passenger, 507 00:47:44,163 --> 00:47:47,297 drop the passenger off before they need to exit. 508 00:47:47,297 --> 00:47:55,970 It's a quite robust system , I spent a few years prior to that 509 00:47:55,992 --> 00:47:57,962 at Port Houston Authority. 510 00:47:57,962 --> 00:48:02,762 You've seen one port, you've seen one port. 511 00:48:03,627 --> 00:48:06,947 They're all incredibly unique in terms 512 00:48:06,947 --> 00:48:11,147 of recreation, crews terminals and cargo activities 513 00:48:11,667 --> 00:48:14,409 so it's a lot to coordinate. 514 00:48:14,409 --> 00:48:17,427 I can say our ground transportation system policy 515 00:48:17,427 --> 00:48:20,567 and software fee system is second to none, 516 00:48:20,567 --> 00:48:22,616 it's a very robust system. 517 00:48:22,616 --> 00:48:27,416 Thank you for the opportunity to highlight that. 518 00:48:34,993 --> 00:48:37,950 Speaker: If you want to build a shopping center or hotel 519 00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:40,727 or stadium that would have significant impacts, 520 00:48:40,727 --> 00:48:43,727 are you all providing any? 521 00:48:45,209 --> 00:48:48,227 Bill Crow: We don't assess impact fees for infrastructure 522 00:48:48,227 --> 00:48:54,227 we don't own, like widening of the DOT or neighboring 523 00:48:55,827 --> 00:48:57,827 municipality facility. 524 00:49:01,267 --> 00:49:07,627 I could not answer that, I don't know that legally we 525 00:49:07,627 --> 00:49:10,611 could under our term with the state of Florida 526 00:49:10,611 --> 00:49:12,907 assess impact fees for jurisdictions outside 527 00:49:12,907 --> 00:49:15,131 of our authority, I don't think that's possible 528 00:49:15,131 --> 00:49:18,731 but I'm just a civil engineer. 529 00:49:22,941 --> 00:49:27,227 Speaker: The delegation could probably address that issue, 530 00:49:27,227 --> 00:49:29,190 it's created by the state of Florida. 531 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:33,219 If it does have significant offsite impacts, 532 00:49:34,387 --> 00:49:38,995 it's totally fair the standard we all live by here and it helps 533 00:49:38,995 --> 00:49:44,395 your cause, it's not negatively creating a revenue source 534 00:49:48,411 --> 00:49:50,811 to address your needs . 535 00:50:21,646 --> 00:50:25,246 Andrew Connors: You impact the community , 536 00:50:25,987 --> 00:50:30,187 roughly making revenue 160 to $180 million a year, 537 00:50:31,307 --> 00:50:37,907 there's five district cities , so the sentiment we get is you 538 00:50:41,540 --> 00:50:45,113 guys are making all this money, we are bearing the brunt 539 00:50:45,113 --> 00:50:48,720 of the impact and what can we do to work together, 540 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,990 this is exactly what this board was designed for so we can plan 541 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:53,795 together. 542 00:50:53,795 --> 00:50:57,395 We cheer each other on wholeheartedly, 543 00:50:58,667 --> 00:51:03,700 I'm excited for their project and this is how we work together 544 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:07,392 and I feel like when you try to go it alone 545 00:51:07,392 --> 00:51:10,107 it's going to be very tough to go as far as you 546 00:51:10,107 --> 00:51:11,207 want to go with that. 547 00:51:11,207 --> 00:51:13,451 Thank you guys for the discussion, 548 00:51:13,451 --> 00:51:17,677 I will take it under advisement, I appreciate your presentation. 549 00:51:17,677 --> 00:51:21,877 Thank you, on to item six B. 550 00:51:40,193 --> 00:51:42,901 Georganna Gillette: I know Chair Connors asked several months ago 551 00:51:42,901 --> 00:51:45,107 that it would be a really good idea 552 00:51:45,107 --> 00:51:50,467 to have the transit come and present on transit operations 553 00:51:50,467 --> 00:51:52,675 for the whole county. 554 00:51:52,675 --> 00:51:56,307 What is the status of the different routes 555 00:51:56,307 --> 00:52:00,547 within the individual cities and what are the challenges. 556 00:52:00,547 --> 00:52:03,435 You all are the policy makers, what 557 00:52:03,435 --> 00:52:07,670 are some things the members can do 558 00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:11,667 that get your councils in the commission to improve things. 559 00:52:11,667 --> 00:52:17,667 Very good conversation at the committees on Tuesday and Terry, 560 00:52:17,987 --> 00:52:21,587 I will kick it to you. 561 00:52:40,278 --> 00:52:42,403 Speaker: We have been asked to present on the state 562 00:52:42,403 --> 00:52:45,403 of transportation in Brevard County . 563 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,947 what we do for each of the cities 564 00:52:52,947 --> 00:52:57,147 specifically is the question we were asked. 565 00:52:58,954 --> 00:53:02,747 You may have seen this in the last transportation Development 566 00:53:02,747 --> 00:53:08,147 Plan update, here's specific details about the routes we 567 00:53:09,187 --> 00:53:11,187 operate, the passengers . 568 00:53:15,198 --> 00:53:20,163 We have a couple routes that operate until midnight, 569 00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:25,667 I will talk about those a little bit later in the presentation. 570 00:53:25,667 --> 00:53:29,370 What you see on the screen is primarily 571 00:53:29,370 --> 00:53:34,437 the reasons why people use transit in Brevard County. 572 00:53:36,707 --> 00:53:44,507 You will see a lot of it is for going to the residence , 573 00:53:47,227 --> 00:53:52,627 additional information you see the passengers are on board 574 00:53:55,427 --> 00:54:00,107 and that tells the passengers are using it for a specific 575 00:54:00,107 --> 00:54:05,507 reason, work and destinations such as shopping and medical 576 00:54:09,387 --> 00:54:11,387 trips. 577 00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:17,507 The hours of service each city specifically receives, 578 00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:25,169 when you look at the gradients and as you see the city 579 00:54:25,169 --> 00:54:31,169 of Melbourne is higher than everybody else and the city 580 00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:38,867 primarily receives the service because the routes operate 581 00:54:41,257 --> 00:54:44,857 almost entirely within the city limits . 582 00:54:57,307 --> 00:55:02,107 As you can tell, if the city received 583 00:55:04,547 --> 00:55:11,270 so many hours of service every year, that comes at a cost. 584 00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:15,827 As you see also, having the highest cost 585 00:55:17,691 --> 00:55:20,360 of service within the jurisdiction 586 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,760 through Brevard County, 2.7 million. 587 00:55:24,658 --> 00:55:28,840 I'd like to highlight this slide because it shows the amount 588 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,840 of service the city sees and the amount of expenses . 589 00:55:37,611 --> 00:55:39,811 as many of you know a major part of our funding 590 00:55:39,811 --> 00:55:42,577 comes primarily from revenue services 591 00:55:42,577 --> 00:55:45,577 from federal and state dollars. 592 00:55:46,579 --> 00:55:52,579 Our local match is actually the source through the county , 593 00:55:57,210 --> 00:56:00,291 thank you for allowing this to continue each and every year 594 00:56:00,291 --> 00:56:01,563 and applying this. 595 00:56:01,563 --> 00:56:03,617 You can see there's about 2.2 million 596 00:56:03,617 --> 00:56:07,817 in the general fund of received revenues, 597 00:56:09,307 --> 00:56:13,120 without this local fund as the base we would then 598 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,291 be unable to match the dollars we need to operate the services. 599 00:56:18,291 --> 00:56:21,882 I also want to be sure I am clear about this, 600 00:56:21,882 --> 00:56:24,459 it's primarily for operation purposes. 601 00:56:24,459 --> 00:56:29,859 There's a few Comp and benefits for our operators . 602 00:56:37,765 --> 00:56:38,720 Georganna Gillette: I just wanted 603 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,672 to point out as we were going through this presentation 604 00:56:40,672 --> 00:56:47,272 general fund 2.2 million, if you compare that amount to our peers 605 00:56:50,347 --> 00:56:53,347 Sarasota receives 26 million and what 606 00:57:00,727 --> 00:57:05,897 Terry has been able to do with organization they really operate 607 00:57:05,897 --> 00:57:11,897 above and beyond and so very fiscally responsible, if you 608 00:57:13,235 --> 00:57:16,835 double the 2.3 million just imagine what 609 00:57:18,907 --> 00:57:20,590 could happen within the county. 610 00:57:20,590 --> 00:57:27,190 It's also like a 5050 operating multiplier, so you get a return. 611 00:57:27,707 --> 00:57:30,907 The more money you contribute, the more 612 00:57:30,907 --> 00:57:34,187 you're going to get back pure nothing against the county 613 00:57:34,187 --> 00:57:38,820 commission, there's only so much money to go around, 614 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:42,867 but that's how efficient he's running the transit service, 615 00:57:42,867 --> 00:57:48,867 this is something to kind of hone in on here. 616 00:57:50,708 --> 00:57:53,177 Speaker: Our local match is not quite to the level of other 617 00:57:53,177 --> 00:57:59,777 cities, however the service we operate On the screen you also 618 00:58:12,167 --> 00:58:18,767 see other sources of revenue , we do have an agreement with 619 00:58:21,787 --> 00:58:27,787 the city to receive direct funds from the State College 620 00:58:30,347 --> 00:58:34,547 and traffic Management Association which they are 621 00:58:34,787 --> 00:58:38,987 responsible for encouraging alternatives to the single 622 00:58:43,547 --> 00:58:45,547 occupancy vehicle . 623 00:58:57,427 --> 00:59:03,490 One of the areas chair Connors wants to hone in on, 624 00:59:03,490 --> 00:59:06,649 what are some of our challenges? 625 00:59:08,587 --> 00:59:13,987 recently we've been focused on our corridor grant services. 626 00:59:18,187 --> 00:59:24,187 We have some of the highest ridership between routes four 627 00:59:26,677 --> 00:59:28,677 and nine. 628 00:59:30,970 --> 00:59:33,567 As you see here it's almost a quarter of all of our services. 629 00:59:33,567 --> 00:59:38,795 Now we are looking at maybe an alternative funding source 630 00:59:38,795 --> 00:59:44,735 to provide for these routes, currently for the last 20 plus 631 00:59:44,735 --> 00:59:50,135 years we've been allocating these funds to transit services 632 01:00:00,787 --> 01:00:04,735 but without this funding to operate these routes we will 633 01:00:04,735 --> 01:00:07,270 have to make sure we have funding coming from somewhere 634 01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:12,427 else to allocate and distribute throughout the entire service . 635 01:00:27,830 --> 01:00:29,455 Georganna Gillette: What the department 636 01:00:29,455 --> 01:00:32,143 is doing when he got the call was 637 01:00:32,143 --> 01:00:35,467 they're looking at the highest value for each dollar that 638 01:00:35,467 --> 01:00:39,630 is being used across the board, remember 639 01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:41,550 we are talking about a transportation 640 01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:44,550 project or a transit Project. 641 01:00:49,507 --> 01:00:54,567 He needs to look at and see what are the routes that are not 642 01:00:54,567 --> 01:00:56,967 performing and potentially shift . 643 01:01:00,232 --> 01:01:03,387 This is the exercise he is currently going through right 644 01:01:03,387 --> 01:01:05,387 now . 645 01:01:30,705 --> 01:01:34,333 Speaker: One of the things we now have to investigate 646 01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:39,133 is the mobility on demand study, it really 647 01:01:41,453 --> 01:01:44,270 focuses on how we can efficiently transfer 648 01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:48,779 from the larger busses to something maybe a little bit 649 01:01:48,779 --> 01:01:52,379 more efficient, services that are not 650 01:01:53,590 --> 01:01:59,590 providing the level of ridership that some of the bigger 651 01:02:00,284 --> 01:02:04,484 [Indistinct] It's on request , the passenger solicits 652 01:02:18,531 --> 01:02:24,531 the vehicle some of the benefits are it provides flexibility. 653 01:02:38,467 --> 01:02:43,115 One of the things we have, one of the concerns 654 01:02:43,115 --> 01:02:46,800 is the distance they have to travel. 655 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,827 If I go back a couple of slides and see some of them 656 01:02:50,827 --> 01:02:55,760 have 15 minute walks after they get off the bus. 657 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,667 We want to get them closer to their destination 658 01:02:57,667 --> 01:03:01,267 or closer to their origin points. 659 01:03:05,693 --> 01:03:11,693 I will stop here and see if there's any questions? 660 01:03:20,383 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker: What is the pricing model 661 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,733 and is there a price that could be said for you all to offset 662 01:03:25,733 --> 01:03:28,733 your costs with the ridership? 663 01:03:31,729 --> 01:03:35,329 Speaker: I'll answer it this way, 664 01:03:38,227 --> 01:03:43,270 Typically for a fixed route operation and about $150 665 01:03:44,707 --> 01:03:47,707 to operate all the routes. 666 01:03:48,755 --> 01:03:54,755 For our paratransit services, the cost per mile is around $5 667 01:03:59,307 --> 01:04:06,207 and change, so if you determine the cost it just determines how 668 01:04:06,207 --> 01:04:09,227 far the passenger needs to go for the destination 669 01:04:09,227 --> 01:04:14,670 but it's probably $5 and change per mile on a transit service 670 01:04:14,670 --> 01:04:17,557 which would also be a little higher when you compare that 671 01:04:17,557 --> 01:04:23,487 to The other service because now you're paying a vendor and they 672 01:04:23,487 --> 01:04:29,487 have to recoup , they're trying to generate much more revenue 673 01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:40,307 than they are putting out. 674 01:04:41,387 --> 01:04:46,187 We've seen those charges exceed ten, $15 per mile. 675 01:04:50,738 --> 01:04:52,780 Speaker: Not to put any other cities on the spot, 676 01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:58,180 but why don't they contribute as far as funding? 677 01:04:58,855 --> 01:05:00,438 Speaker: I can't answer that question, 678 01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:02,337 I believe that's why we were invited 679 01:05:02,337 --> 01:05:04,523 to have this conversation today because there's 680 01:05:04,523 --> 01:05:06,110 a need for additional revenue. 681 01:05:06,110 --> 01:05:13,127 We operate of course not at a gain, we operate at a negative 682 01:05:13,127 --> 01:05:16,692 and there's a need for additional revenues 683 01:05:16,692 --> 01:05:20,514 and that's why we are here having this discussion today. 684 01:05:20,514 --> 01:05:23,187 One thing I want to go back to is 685 01:05:23,187 --> 01:05:26,787 if the revenues decreased, that money 686 01:05:36,147 --> 01:05:41,155 will have to come from somewhere whose services will then also 687 01:05:41,155 --> 01:05:43,155 have to reduce. 688 01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:51,340 Andrew Connors: Any other questions? 689 01:06:01,627 --> 01:06:06,173 I think that's something for us to all be conscientious about 690 01:06:06,173 --> 01:06:08,507 as we move forward in our budget process, 691 01:06:08,507 --> 01:06:11,507 we can see losing that approximately million dollars 692 01:06:11,507 --> 01:06:17,352 that funded the bus route , I'm sure I speak for the rest 693 01:06:17,352 --> 01:06:20,819 of the cities when I say we don't want to see additional bus 694 01:06:20,819 --> 01:06:24,867 routes be cut from their city and it's kind of surprising 695 01:06:24,867 --> 01:06:29,347 to me that palm Bay has let sprouts given that you are three 696 01:06:29,347 --> 01:06:31,347 times our size. 697 01:06:32,307 --> 01:06:39,507 Obviously, we have a lot more work to do in this area. 698 01:06:39,587 --> 01:06:40,962 Speaker: Talk to your legislators 699 01:06:40,962 --> 01:06:43,362 before the next session. 700 01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:52,270 Sometimes they don't even want to see me coming , 701 01:06:53,575 --> 01:06:56,187 but if that's something you're interested in talk to them soon 702 01:06:56,187 --> 01:06:58,187 after this election. 703 01:07:01,380 --> 01:07:03,547 Speaker: I want to make sure as we are talking about 704 01:07:03,547 --> 01:07:11,347 the services , one of the things we would like to do is maintain 705 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:17,867 the service at all costs because we understand that 706 01:07:17,867 --> 01:07:22,670 our individuals that depend on our services , 707 01:07:28,687 --> 01:07:32,919 Georgiana and I have had these discussions based on what are 708 01:07:32,919 --> 01:07:34,919 our next options. 709 01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:43,627 Georganna Gillette: The Department of Transportation 710 01:07:43,627 --> 01:07:46,940 is looking at options to try to keep those two accounts going. 711 01:07:46,940 --> 01:07:51,740 One of the options is flexing the funding, 712 01:07:51,837 --> 01:07:53,947 which really gives you the broad authority 713 01:07:53,947 --> 01:07:56,387 to transfer funding from the Federal Highway 714 01:07:56,387 --> 01:08:02,587 Administration which is where our funding is at over to FTA. 715 01:08:02,587 --> 01:08:04,987 Unfortunately you're only allowed 716 01:08:05,267 --> 01:08:09,220 to do that for capital projects, the military doesn't need 717 01:08:09,220 --> 01:08:12,820 any more busses, he needs funding 718 01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:15,227 and that is not an eligible expense 719 01:08:15,227 --> 01:08:18,667 to transfer the funding over but there's certainly 720 01:08:18,667 --> 01:08:20,693 a lot of benefits for it. 721 01:08:20,693 --> 01:08:24,837 These are all the different funding programs through 722 01:08:24,837 --> 01:08:27,237 the Federal Highway Administration . 723 01:08:48,667 --> 01:08:54,667 some of the funding could be swapped with a project 724 01:08:56,267 --> 01:08:59,187 with the program funded with state money that would 725 01:08:59,187 --> 01:09:02,187 allow the routes to continue. 726 01:09:02,363 --> 01:09:07,970 This is an option that we are also discussing, and curious 727 01:09:07,970 --> 01:09:11,907 to know if the governing board would support that but there's 728 01:09:11,907 --> 01:09:14,171 going to have to be some decisions made, 729 01:09:14,171 --> 01:09:19,210 and this is definitely the body that needs to hear all of this 730 01:09:19,210 --> 01:09:20,857 because we really can't underestimate 731 01:09:20,857 --> 01:09:25,570 the importance of transit in moving people 732 01:09:25,567 --> 01:09:27,817 within the fabric of transportation, 733 01:09:27,817 --> 01:09:32,617 not to mention from an economic development standpoint. 734 01:09:32,947 --> 01:09:34,947 That concludes. 735 01:09:47,860 --> 01:09:52,486 Speaker: I just have a couple of quick videos. 736 01:09:52,527 --> 01:09:54,527 [Video plays] 737 01:11:12,615 --> 01:11:14,730 Chair Andrew Connors: Normally when 738 01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:16,915 someone does an ad it looks like wasted money. 739 01:11:16,915 --> 01:11:20,687 You guys nailed it, that was a great ad. 740 01:11:20,687 --> 01:11:26,687 Any other Seeing none, we are on to item 5A. 741 01:11:32,609 --> 01:11:35,609 Does anybody have any questions? 742 01:11:53,744 --> 01:11:55,327 Speaker: In the memorandum I prepared, 743 01:11:55,327 --> 01:11:57,727 there was a recommendation . 744 01:12:12,270 --> 01:12:15,267 Chair Andrew Connors: It was voted on to approve a one time 745 01:12:15,267 --> 01:12:19,307 $5,000 bonus for the executive director and I will entertain 746 01:12:19,307 --> 01:12:21,307 a motion. 747 01:12:57,221 --> 01:12:59,138 Speaker: I can tell you as an elected official 748 01:12:59,138 --> 01:13:00,804 if I make a phone call she's there 749 01:13:00,804 --> 01:13:02,533 at the ready when I need her. 750 01:13:02,533 --> 01:13:06,150 I appreciate your hard work on behalf 751 01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:08,665 of each and every one of us and even moreover 752 01:13:08,665 --> 01:13:10,665 on the constituency. 753 01:13:17,503 --> 01:13:19,503 [Applause] 754 01:13:21,317 --> 01:13:23,900 Chair Andrew Connors: When we did the performance evaluation I 755 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:30,500 believe it was before the award came out for that grant , 756 01:13:30,715 --> 01:13:33,420 she probably could have gotten six out of five. 757 01:13:33,420 --> 01:13:36,320 I believe we are on to resolution 758 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,520 of transportation improvement program amendment number one. 759 01:13:47,633 --> 01:13:50,457 Georganna Gillette: This is a routine housekeeping item, 760 01:13:50,457 --> 01:13:55,987 the link is provided on the item sheet for the actual report. 761 01:13:55,987 --> 01:13:58,219 It's a very long report, it's not 762 01:13:58,219 --> 01:14:00,170 included in your agenda package. 763 01:14:00,170 --> 01:14:03,617 When the worker program become effective, 764 01:14:04,627 --> 01:14:08,295 there were projects that were supposed to get authorized prior 765 01:14:08,295 --> 01:14:11,937 to June that did not and so these projects automatically 766 01:14:11,937 --> 01:14:15,537 move forward in the work program . 767 01:14:17,117 --> 01:14:20,613 Hence the need to reconcile the two documents and bring it up 768 01:14:20,613 --> 01:14:24,297 to date to ensure that projects that received federal funding 769 01:14:24,297 --> 01:14:28,315 can be authorized prior to the federal fiscal year which is 770 01:14:28,315 --> 01:14:30,187 October 1st. 771 01:14:30,187 --> 01:14:34,227 This is really accomplished by incorporating the big report 772 01:14:34,227 --> 01:14:39,627 into our existing, so we are asking for approval 773 01:14:40,377 --> 01:14:44,577 of resolution 27-05 via roll call vote. 774 01:14:57,143 --> 01:15:00,143 Chair Andrew Connors: Any discussion? 775 01:15:04,314 --> 01:15:06,314 [Voting] 776 01:15:37,267 --> 01:15:43,867 Now we are on to item 5C, the National railroad partnership 777 01:15:48,907 --> 01:15:50,907 program grant funding. 778 01:15:54,493 --> 01:15:56,447 Speaker: This is really a housekeeping item, 779 01:15:56,447 --> 01:16:03,470 we are amending a project to the long range transportation plan. 780 01:16:07,389 --> 01:16:10,937 neither of these projects impact any of the previous projects 781 01:16:10,937 --> 01:16:16,937 that are cost feasible in the long range transportation plan. 782 01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:22,213 This would add auxiliary lanes to help 783 01:16:24,275 --> 01:16:28,739 improve traffic flow and safety along that section of 95. 784 01:16:28,739 --> 01:16:32,827 This is completely state funded, and as I mentioned 785 01:16:32,827 --> 01:16:36,547 does not impact the cost feasibility of other projects. 786 01:16:36,547 --> 01:16:38,867 The next one is once again administrative, 787 01:16:38,867 --> 01:16:43,670 we are able to add $57 million received 788 01:16:44,611 --> 01:16:47,611 onto the multimodal station project. 789 01:16:48,419 --> 01:16:52,947 With that I would like to request approval 790 01:16:52,947 --> 01:16:55,347 for a Resolution 27-06. 791 01:17:12,211 --> 01:17:14,707 Speaker: The dedicated lane, is it like an auxiliary lane 792 01:17:14,707 --> 01:17:17,707 like we have down south? 793 01:17:19,988 --> 01:17:20,190 Georganna Gillette: My understanding 794 01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:23,147 they call it an auxiliary lane because it goes from interchange 795 01:17:23,147 --> 01:17:26,747 to interchange, so they would just 796 01:17:28,889 --> 01:17:32,667 be adding a lane which does add capacity 797 01:17:32,667 --> 01:17:35,797 even though it's not technically considered a widening. 798 01:17:35,797 --> 01:17:38,797 As the department receives funding, 799 01:17:38,843 --> 01:17:46,430 we are going to keep going south all the way to Malabar. 800 01:17:51,933 --> 01:17:54,580 Chair Andrew Connors: You can stay in the same lane 801 01:17:54,580 --> 01:17:56,580 the entire time. 802 01:17:58,602 --> 01:18:00,602 any other questions? 803 01:18:09,950 --> 01:18:15,350 Speaker: There is a sound barrier wall as well. 804 01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:20,408 Georganna Gillette: It's a specific section. 805 01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:22,404 Speaker: They conducted a sound study, 806 01:18:22,404 --> 01:18:26,700 and that was one of the thresholds required 807 01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:32,700 that would allow for it to have the sound wall. 808 01:18:36,907 --> 01:18:41,107 It was by the Viera East community 809 01:18:42,347 --> 01:18:46,547 but it's the HOA for that area. 810 01:18:54,295 --> 01:18:55,712 Speaker: Is there an inherent risk 811 01:18:55,712 --> 01:18:59,912 it would be subject to a noise? 812 01:19:00,612 --> 01:19:02,612 Speaker: I would have assumed he would take that 813 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,612 into consideration. 814 01:19:08,855 --> 01:19:10,647 Georganna Gillette: The board can certainly 815 01:19:10,647 --> 01:19:13,647 make a recommendation for that. 816 01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:17,417 Speaker: It seems a better use of the money 817 01:19:17,417 --> 01:19:19,387 would be to spread it out for future widening 818 01:19:19,387 --> 01:19:22,387 instead of isolating $1 million wall 819 01:19:24,259 --> 01:19:26,659 for a particular neighborhood. 820 01:19:30,490 --> 01:19:31,235 Georganna Gillette: The project was approved previously 821 01:19:31,235 --> 01:19:33,577 and we are just adding it to the long range plan 822 01:19:33,577 --> 01:19:38,470 because the highway requested it needs to be in the long range 823 01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:41,819 plan similar to discussing with the port's overpass 824 01:19:41,819 --> 01:19:44,819 project due to the cost. 825 01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:53,350 But it is approved already, But the board certainly you 826 01:19:56,407 --> 01:20:00,607 have the authority to make that recommendation. 827 01:20:18,638 --> 01:20:19,310 Speaker: It didn't break down come 828 01:20:19,310 --> 01:20:21,227 I don't know what the cost is between the land 829 01:20:21,227 --> 01:20:23,627 and the wall itself. 830 01:20:44,347 --> 01:20:47,947 Chair Andrew Connors: Any further discussion? 831 01:20:50,711 --> 01:20:52,711 Speaker: Allocate the money for the barrier wall 832 01:20:52,711 --> 01:20:56,311 to be used for other portions. 833 01:20:57,532 --> 01:20:58,907 Speaker: My question would be can 834 01:20:58,907 --> 01:21:02,800 we get a guarantee saying I don't want 835 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,770 you to take that money and build a wall, 836 01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:12,277 or will they just recoup their money and do what they want? 837 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:18,619 my fear is that they just take the money off 838 01:21:18,619 --> 01:21:21,190 and they'll keep it. 839 01:21:22,858 --> 01:21:24,983 Chair Andrew Connors: Could a reasonable compromise 840 01:21:24,983 --> 01:21:29,783 be with the conditioned approval of doing it 841 01:21:33,699 --> 01:21:36,670 for the subsequent sections as well because I'm 842 01:21:36,670 --> 01:21:38,603 sure we've heard from Melbourne and Palm 843 01:21:38,603 --> 01:21:41,731 Bay of folks that are also having similar issues with noise 844 01:21:41,731 --> 01:21:43,731 on 95. 845 01:22:01,639 --> 01:22:04,222 Georganna Gillette: One of the things the department mentioned 846 01:22:04,222 --> 01:22:06,990 putting in an auxiliary lane, they 847 01:22:06,990 --> 01:22:10,451 will have to look at sound within those overheads just 848 01:22:10,451 --> 01:22:15,851 because of the sheer growth and the traffic counts, 849 01:22:16,847 --> 01:22:21,647 so I think that it will be done. 850 01:22:23,652 --> 01:22:25,860 Chair Andrew Connors: Council member Hamer was first, 851 01:22:25,860 --> 01:22:30,660 then I will get to Hanley then Forrester . 852 01:22:39,476 --> 01:22:41,181 Councilmember Hamer: I know if I build 853 01:22:41,181 --> 01:22:44,817 on a lake I'm not going to be mad 854 01:22:44,817 --> 01:22:49,447 about the sound of the water, I think it's opening up 855 01:22:49,447 --> 01:22:56,470 a gate to everybody requiring this wall all the way down 856 01:22:57,377 --> 01:23:05,177 and how are you going to justify it for one and not another. 857 01:23:12,690 --> 01:23:14,733 Speaker: Just because you think it's just the sound of cars, 858 01:23:14,733 --> 01:23:20,295 I have clients in other parts of the state that are not that 859 01:23:20,295 --> 01:23:23,339 close but close enough to the interstate and they said 860 01:23:23,339 --> 01:23:28,435 the biggest thing that they hear and problems being that close is 861 01:23:28,435 --> 01:23:30,435 tires blowing . 862 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,413 You're just thinking of that sound , 863 01:23:39,413 --> 01:23:44,213 they said every day they hear the tires. 864 01:23:44,461 --> 01:23:46,219 It's not just for the sound wall, 865 01:23:46,219 --> 01:23:51,451 it's for the protection of us and different parts 866 01:23:51,451 --> 01:23:53,451 of the roadway. 867 01:23:53,647 --> 01:24:00,247 Somebody's not going to look , so it's not just we have 868 01:24:02,347 --> 01:24:08,347 straightaways there, but we have to look at the tires. 869 01:24:14,587 --> 01:24:21,787 It's not just for the car sound, it's the tires that blow . 870 01:24:26,107 --> 01:24:32,287 We've got to look at if they put it in there , 871 01:24:32,287 --> 01:24:36,547 maybe there's a reason other than just the sound from that 872 01:24:36,547 --> 01:24:38,547 wall. 873 01:24:45,907 --> 01:24:48,538 Councilmember Forrester: It just occurs to me 874 01:24:48,538 --> 01:24:50,819 we're talking about this and using our money 875 01:24:50,819 --> 01:24:53,723 to mitigate a problem that was caused 876 01:24:53,723 --> 01:24:56,347 by people building their houses on the side 877 01:24:56,347 --> 01:24:57,447 of a damned interstate. 878 01:24:57,447 --> 01:25:02,247 I don't know, different jurisdictions I'm sure have 879 01:25:02,733 --> 01:25:06,933 different availability of requiring some mitigation from 880 01:25:09,827 --> 01:25:14,270 these neighborhoods developed in the first place, 881 01:25:14,747 --> 01:25:17,583 that doesn't solve the problem but it might save 882 01:25:17,583 --> 01:25:23,293 our predecessors or successors the problem of having to deal 883 01:25:23,293 --> 01:25:29,730 with the new developments that are going to be going in , 884 01:25:29,730 --> 01:25:35,987 we need to first mitigate trees, if they're going to build up 885 01:25:35,987 --> 01:25:41,387 that close then back up entirely before they build. 886 01:25:42,867 --> 01:25:47,547 Just a suggestion, something we could take direct action 887 01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:55,347 on to prevent it from continuing to be a problem years from now . 888 01:26:01,228 --> 01:26:03,811 They hear the cars and I don't have a lot of sympathy for them 889 01:26:03,811 --> 01:26:10,411 because they knew the highway was there in the first place . 890 01:26:15,924 --> 01:26:17,299 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 891 01:26:17,299 --> 01:26:21,201 Sound walls are very expensive and there's only so much money 892 01:26:21,201 --> 01:26:23,201 to go around. 893 01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:27,619 Councilmember Forrester: You can negotiate with the builders 894 01:26:27,619 --> 01:26:32,419 and get walls built, get trees put up 895 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,787 to mitigate, there's a lot of things that 896 01:26:35,787 --> 01:26:43,347 can be done to mitigate and to keep us having to pay for it 897 01:26:43,347 --> 01:26:48,147 or spend money doing it 20 years from now. 898 01:26:54,274 --> 01:26:57,393 Speaker: I know many developers did do the sound barrier 899 01:26:57,393 --> 01:27:01,593 and the zone you are speaking of , 900 01:27:02,787 --> 01:27:09,387 but since that time particularly in palm Bay and throughout now 901 01:27:09,643 --> 01:27:16,307 because 95 expanded from four lanes to six lanes and so as we 902 01:27:16,307 --> 01:27:22,307 continue what encroaches onto 95 but right now what we are 903 01:27:24,171 --> 01:27:26,723 talking about is the south wall buffers, 904 01:27:26,723 --> 01:27:32,147 so maybe in the future you are right but I can tell you that 905 01:27:32,147 --> 01:27:37,180 when 95 was first constructed there was no sound walls 906 01:27:37,180 --> 01:27:43,697 and the result of it was vegetative buffer as a sound 907 01:27:43,697 --> 01:27:45,697 barrier . 908 01:28:07,676 --> 01:28:10,843 Speaker: I understand the sound barrier is only effective up 909 01:28:10,843 --> 01:28:12,371 to the first 30ft. 910 01:28:12,371 --> 01:28:18,971 So one of the subdivisions near me had all the vegetation, 911 01:28:23,491 --> 01:28:27,691 they did not have a sound wall. 912 01:28:29,107 --> 01:28:33,907 FDOT came through and pulled it all out , 913 01:28:35,227 --> 01:28:40,803 so the residents took it upon themselves to plant bamboo 914 01:28:40,803 --> 01:28:43,867 in there which grows quickly and it has helped immensely 915 01:28:43,867 --> 01:28:49,627 and it's been a very short time, I think depending on what 916 01:28:49,627 --> 01:28:56,827 property you're planting on that might be an answer just as much 917 01:28:59,227 --> 01:29:02,827 as the sound wall, thank you. 918 01:29:13,971 --> 01:29:16,513 Speaker: I was wondering if you would split this item in half 919 01:29:16,513 --> 01:29:20,113 and we vote on them separately . 920 01:29:27,428 --> 01:29:32,828 Chair Andrew Connors: Let's tackle the first one first. 921 01:29:33,907 --> 01:29:35,907 Commissioner? 922 01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:44,117 Speaker: I've been involved in providing sound barriers 923 01:29:44,117 --> 01:29:46,683 for residents that have been impacted by the cars 924 01:29:46,683 --> 01:29:49,707 and trucks along the corridor, it 925 01:29:49,707 --> 01:29:53,115 does have impact on property values 926 01:29:53,115 --> 01:29:55,715 and affects our tax base and ability 927 01:29:55,715 --> 01:30:01,715 to do development and even crime by protecting the neighborhoods 928 01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:07,470 preventing them from becoming blighted, 929 01:30:07,187 --> 01:30:11,307 keeping the sound on the noise and the light away. 930 01:30:11,307 --> 01:30:17,307 My understanding as well is I think to protect neighborhoods 931 01:30:28,987 --> 01:30:32,491 and if you deny the money it's going 932 01:30:32,491 --> 01:30:35,491 to go to another community. 933 01:30:39,298 --> 01:30:39,457 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 934 01:30:39,457 --> 01:30:41,820 I was unaware the money for sound walls 935 01:30:41,820 --> 01:30:44,682 was specifically for the federal government. 936 01:30:47,815 --> 01:30:52,615 Speaker: There's a criteria you have to meet. 937 01:30:52,737 --> 01:30:54,112 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 938 01:30:54,112 --> 01:30:57,927 And a study that has to be done as well . 939 01:30:57,927 --> 01:31:00,971 If you're going to add capacity to a roadway, 940 01:31:00,971 --> 01:31:05,771 same thing they have to do an analysis . 941 01:31:14,302 --> 01:31:16,760 They are adding a lane which is technically adding capacity 942 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,257 and they apparently did this analysis 943 01:31:19,257 --> 01:31:23,670 for this particular neighborhood and did qualify. 944 01:31:23,670 --> 01:31:25,867 So I would assume as they move south we have to do the same 945 01:31:25,867 --> 01:31:30,470 exact thing and if they meet the criteria I'm not sure how they 946 01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:35,270 can get around, so that's a good point . 947 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,867 Chair Andrew Connors: So I have a motion 948 01:31:46,867 --> 01:31:50,267 to approve the National Railroad Partnership Program grant 949 01:31:50,267 --> 01:31:53,267 funding to support the station. 950 01:32:07,987 --> 01:32:11,587 All those in favor say aye? 951 01:32:15,988 --> 01:32:17,988 motion carries. 952 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,488 we kind of went out of order, I apologize. 953 01:32:26,303 --> 01:32:28,703 one nay, Commissioner Feldner. 954 01:32:33,107 --> 01:32:36,283 Earlier there was a motion on the floor which 955 01:32:36,283 --> 01:32:39,713 I skipped earlier because it was requested to split them up, 956 01:32:39,713 --> 01:32:44,387 so now there's a motion by everybody to approve 957 01:32:44,387 --> 01:32:48,512 and there was a second one still in discussion 958 01:32:48,512 --> 01:32:50,547 so now those two things are separated 959 01:32:50,547 --> 01:32:53,293 let's continue the discussion, how 960 01:32:53,293 --> 01:32:56,893 do you want to proceed forward? 961 01:32:57,559 --> 01:32:59,590 this is basically to put in our plan 962 01:32:59,590 --> 01:33:02,659 because they are using federal dollars. 963 01:33:08,467 --> 01:33:12,113 in the process of them adding capacity, 964 01:33:12,113 --> 01:33:16,313 they are adding in a sound wall. 965 01:33:34,934 --> 01:33:37,267 Vice Mayor: This was a request from the Viera Homeowners 966 01:33:37,267 --> 01:33:37,767 Association. 967 01:33:37,767 --> 01:33:44,367 I think we've discussed this , our input saying we don't want 968 01:33:49,307 --> 01:33:52,967 the wall will impact what the federal government is going 969 01:33:52,967 --> 01:33:53,673 to do. 970 01:33:53,673 --> 01:33:59,227 My solution would be to do this looking at it much closer 971 01:33:59,227 --> 01:34:02,227 because we've had this discussion . 972 01:34:07,388 --> 01:34:09,471 Chair Andrew Connors: Deputy mayor brought this up 973 01:34:09,471 --> 01:34:11,979 as a concern because it is a very large project in terms 974 01:34:11,979 --> 01:34:19,179 of cost, what could those funds elsewhere be used for to help 975 01:34:19,267 --> 01:34:23,567 increase the capacity which is why the discussion is occurring 976 01:34:23,567 --> 01:34:28,967 which I think is a fair conversation to have . 977 01:34:42,670 --> 01:34:46,470 I know all the cities represented here 978 01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:50,247 that are south of there, you're going 979 01:34:53,689 --> 01:34:55,857 to see that on the southern end. 980 01:34:55,857 --> 01:35:01,257 Is this neighborhood special or is every neighborhood going 981 01:35:01,627 --> 01:35:03,339 to get the same kind of treatment 982 01:35:03,339 --> 01:35:06,939 because the cost of $37 million per, 983 01:35:08,767 --> 01:35:11,680 we are not talking about much distance here. 984 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:18,280 Are we going to get all the way to palm Bay ? 985 01:35:24,919 --> 01:35:30,611 Speaker: As you know Commerce of of our southern part has evolved 986 01:35:30,611 --> 01:35:36,333 but we've always known these sound walls do take a lot 987 01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:42,333 of funding from increasing our capacity when you go vertical, 988 01:35:46,487 --> 01:35:52,487 but my question is more geared towards their requiring this , 989 01:35:57,131 --> 01:36:03,731 they are actually putting this in place because of some policy 990 01:36:04,787 --> 01:36:08,987 that they are doing it that way. 991 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,950 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 992 01:36:13,950 --> 01:36:15,567 Anytime you add capacity to a roadway you have to analyze 993 01:36:15,567 --> 01:36:20,470 the environmental aspect of it, that's just one component of it, 994 01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:24,770 and there's a very specific and detailed analysis that goes 995 01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:28,877 beyond that, and if it hits that mark , 996 01:36:29,551 --> 01:36:33,907 if it qualifies we can certainly add another meeting have someone 997 01:36:33,907 --> 01:36:36,497 come in and present on it that actually knows what 998 01:36:36,497 --> 01:36:38,497 they're talking about . 999 01:36:44,129 --> 01:36:47,270 That may be very good for the conversation 1000 01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:51,227 as the department moves south moving forward. 1001 01:37:03,571 --> 01:37:06,931 Speaker: Could we potentially not approve the project 1002 01:37:06,931 --> 01:37:11,167 at this time and go ahead and I will process amendment 1003 01:37:11,167 --> 01:37:14,497 one with the rail station and then Chuck sets us 1004 01:37:14,497 --> 01:37:17,597 up for October but to someone come in 1005 01:37:17,597 --> 01:37:19,251 and tell you more about the project 1006 01:37:19,251 --> 01:37:24,769 and give you the breakdown and provide you that opportunity 1007 01:37:24,769 --> 01:37:26,769 to learn more? 1008 01:37:29,538 --> 01:37:29,541 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 1009 01:37:29,541 --> 01:37:31,583 I'm a little concerned considering we had to send 1010 01:37:31,583 --> 01:37:36,383 a commitment letter to the Federal Highway Administration . 1011 01:37:40,123 --> 01:37:45,523 I'm a little concerned unless members really feel strongly . 1012 01:37:59,210 --> 01:38:05,810 Speaker: We might not like it, but we need the capacity. 1013 01:38:10,867 --> 01:38:16,867 going south we're going to have tremendous growth going on, 1014 01:38:17,227 --> 01:38:19,227 expanding businesses. 1015 01:38:23,827 --> 01:38:27,680 Maybe we don't like that but sometimes we need the expansion 1016 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,210 and if we don't take it now it might 1017 01:38:30,210 --> 01:38:36,210 be two years before the gap or longer than that. 1018 01:38:38,193 --> 01:38:43,267 So hold your nose, you might not like it 1019 01:38:43,267 --> 01:38:45,461 but we've got to take it. 1020 01:38:45,461 --> 01:38:50,861 I propose we vote Yes for the auxiliary improvement. 1021 01:38:59,999 --> 01:39:03,533 with the funding things and going on, 1022 01:39:03,533 --> 01:39:10,133 we've got to say yes, we hold our nose and vote. 1023 01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:12,212 Chair Andrew Connors: I don't think 1024 01:39:12,212 --> 01:39:14,129 anybody had an issue with the auxiliary lanes, 1025 01:39:14,129 --> 01:39:16,323 it was just the wall and what other improvements can 1026 01:39:16,323 --> 01:39:19,667 be made with the wall funding. 1027 01:39:19,667 --> 01:39:24,467 I'm going to call a roll call vote. 1028 01:39:30,497 --> 01:39:35,297 Speaker: It's for specifically approving the new project 1029 01:39:35,428 --> 01:39:37,428 for 195. 1030 01:40:02,335 --> 01:40:03,710 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 1031 01:40:03,710 --> 01:40:09,710 Can you repeat who had the initial motion and second? 1032 01:40:17,230 --> 01:40:21,430 Chair Andrew Connors: Mayor and vice mayor. 1033 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:48,459 Speaker: My concern also is from a legal perspective, 1034 01:40:48,507 --> 01:40:53,267 this has been a approved under the federal act and I would be 1035 01:40:53,267 --> 01:40:55,267 concerned -- 1036 01:40:59,999 --> 01:41:02,999 I don't know the ramifications. 1037 01:41:08,380 --> 01:41:12,838 but just sitting here gives me some pause. 1038 01:41:17,762 --> 01:41:20,671 Speaker: Just to again confirm, moving to approve the resolution 1039 01:41:20,671 --> 01:41:24,271 as it appears in the package. 1040 01:41:28,745 --> 01:41:30,745 [Voting] 1041 01:42:01,441 --> 01:42:05,410 Chair Andrew Connors: The motion carries. 1042 01:42:06,288 --> 01:42:09,888 Speaker: I do have a question. 1043 01:42:16,487 --> 01:42:19,243 Vice Mayor: My question is that if this construction is starting 1044 01:42:19,243 --> 01:42:22,192 in a couple weeks, why are we just getting it 1045 01:42:22,192 --> 01:42:23,887 for approval now? 1046 01:42:23,887 --> 01:42:27,487 Why haven't we seen this before? 1047 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:36,664 if we don't approve it, I'm not sure what that has. 1048 01:42:37,664 --> 01:42:42,787 getting it two weeks before the construction starts, what 1049 01:42:42,787 --> 01:42:45,873 are the ramifications on us if we did not approve this, 1050 01:42:45,873 --> 01:42:49,473 I'm just talking for future projects. 1051 01:42:51,629 --> 01:42:53,671 Speaker: Technically it was already approved when 1052 01:42:53,671 --> 01:42:56,671 you approved the amendment tip. 1053 01:43:01,620 --> 01:43:02,995 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 1054 01:43:02,995 --> 01:43:05,395 There was another amendment . 1055 01:43:23,514 --> 01:43:28,417 Speaker: We had to put it in the 26 tip because the federal 1056 01:43:28,417 --> 01:43:33,817 government still recognizes the fiscal year 26 so it was 1057 01:43:35,275 --> 01:43:41,875 in the 27 tip but the letting was going to happen before 1058 01:43:43,487 --> 01:43:51,287 the federal fiscal year and we had to amend it to add it . 1059 01:43:51,878 --> 01:43:54,667 That's the gap that we have to deal with between the fiscal 1060 01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:56,667 years . 1061 01:44:04,330 --> 01:44:05,705 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 1062 01:44:05,705 --> 01:44:08,329 The highway came back and said that needs to be in your long 1063 01:44:08,329 --> 01:44:11,782 range plan, so we had to send a commitment letter saying we will 1064 01:44:11,782 --> 01:44:16,600 bring it to the board and cooperated into the long term 1065 01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,107 plans so that's how that's played out over the past few 1066 01:44:20,107 --> 01:44:22,107 months . 1067 01:44:31,387 --> 01:44:34,987 Consent agenda, approval of the minutes, 1068 01:44:37,327 --> 01:44:39,727 approval of committee appointments, 1069 01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:45,227 approval of resolution amendment to the transportation 1070 01:44:45,317 --> 01:44:48,317 disadvantaged local coordinating board policy. 1071 01:44:51,929 --> 01:44:57,329 the adoption of resolution for fiscal year operating budget, 1072 01:44:59,590 --> 01:45:03,947 approval of work order a major update to the transportation 1073 01:45:03,947 --> 01:45:08,747 Disadvantaged Service plan working with Space Coast Area 1074 01:45:09,187 --> 01:45:11,187 Transit . 1075 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:18,400 This is our 2627 Traffic data report analysis. 1076 01:45:19,197 --> 01:45:25,107 Approval of work order, this is the Cross City Trail feasibility 1077 01:45:25,107 --> 01:45:29,307 study, first study from the master plan. 1078 01:45:32,227 --> 01:45:35,227 Approval of Melbourne Beach study, 1079 01:45:39,771 --> 01:45:43,971 and approval of legal services agreement extension. 1080 01:45:53,827 --> 01:45:57,427 All those in favor say aye? 1081 01:46:01,399 --> 01:46:03,399 motion carries unanimously. 1082 01:46:07,130 --> 01:46:07,237 Councilmember Georganna Gillette: 1083 01:46:07,237 --> 01:46:08,904 I was so excited to talk about the grant 1084 01:46:08,904 --> 01:46:12,887 that I kind of went off, but just wanted 1085 01:46:12,887 --> 01:46:18,887 to I think it certainly represents a big step forward 1086 01:46:19,947 --> 01:46:21,867 in expanding transportation options 1087 01:46:21,867 --> 01:46:25,470 and connecting the community to the future of passenger rail. 1088 01:46:25,470 --> 01:46:31,627 This is certainly a big deal, and as the regional body 1089 01:46:31,627 --> 01:46:34,447 we have a very big role in the years of planning 1090 01:46:34,447 --> 01:46:37,707 and coordination, so I would say thank you 1091 01:46:37,707 --> 01:46:40,523 for allowing us to continue in this effort 1092 01:46:40,523 --> 01:46:42,407 over the past decade. 1093 01:46:42,407 --> 01:46:47,807 Thank you for your leadership, your advocacy and funding 1094 01:46:49,867 --> 01:46:53,447 partnership, because that's what it's all about is having 1095 01:46:53,447 --> 01:46:56,257 the funding match our state legislators that support 1096 01:46:56,257 --> 01:47:01,800 the project and I have to thank the Congressman, 1097 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,827 he's instrumental on the federal level and having his 1098 01:47:05,827 --> 01:47:10,627 conversations with Secretary Duffy because you cannot submit 1099 01:47:12,107 --> 01:47:15,707 this large competitive discretionary federal grant 1100 01:47:17,107 --> 01:47:20,627 and forget about it, it really takes advocacy 1101 01:47:20,627 --> 01:47:25,427 if you're actually going to see the money. 1102 01:47:25,811 --> 01:47:31,384 Then, next slide I would like to introduce our new staff 1103 01:47:31,384 --> 01:47:35,907 member who is in the back, she is our new accounts payable 1104 01:47:35,907 --> 01:47:37,907 and contract specialist. 1105 01:47:39,943 --> 01:47:41,918 She's been with us two months and has really 1106 01:47:41,918 --> 01:47:43,387 hit the ground running and we are 1107 01:47:43,387 --> 01:47:47,827 very excited to have her as we accomplish our strategic plan 1108 01:47:47,827 --> 01:47:49,827 goals. 1109 01:47:52,159 --> 01:47:54,559 that concludes my report. 1110 01:48:04,622 --> 01:48:06,622 [Indistinct] 1111 01:48:39,598 --> 01:48:45,598 Speaker: We will rename that the Michael C Blake terminal... 1112 01:48:47,148 --> 01:48:49,148 [Applause] 1113 01:48:54,744 --> 01:48:58,344 Chair Andrew Connors: Any committee reports? 1114 01:49:00,667 --> 01:49:04,739 now we are on to Space Coast area transit, 1115 01:49:04,739 --> 01:49:08,175 we already had the presentation from them. 1116 01:49:08,175 --> 01:49:12,975 We have the modal reports by the airport ? 1117 01:49:23,671 --> 01:49:27,987 Speaker: Last night at Melbourne City Council this was presented. 1118 01:49:27,987 --> 01:49:31,211 There's a new soccer stadium that's 1119 01:49:31,211 --> 01:49:37,300 coming to property that the land was purchased near the airport, 1120 01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:43,300 these are some renderings of what that area will potentially 1121 01:49:46,923 --> 01:49:49,367 look like with the soccer stadium. 1122 01:49:49,367 --> 01:49:56,567 It's directly across from the Apollo and this used to be where 1123 01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:01,000 the lagoon area was going to be . 1124 01:50:03,725 --> 01:50:06,125 Any questions for me? 1125 01:50:15,655 --> 01:50:17,760 Speaker: Mayor Connor said we cheer each other on, 1126 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,760 we are cheering you on. 1127 01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:24,100 thank you. 1128 01:50:25,667 --> 01:50:28,125 Speaker: We haven't heard any timelines but it's definitely 1129 01:50:28,125 --> 01:50:31,725 on the radar to be happening. 1130 01:50:32,646 --> 01:50:32,869 Chair Andrew Connors: It's exciting 1131 01:50:32,869 --> 01:50:35,217 because it's the same ownership that brought 1132 01:50:35,217 --> 01:50:37,617 Orlando City to Orlando. 1133 01:50:39,707 --> 01:50:46,939 I think we can all take pride in the next generation of football 1134 01:50:46,939 --> 01:50:49,939 fans that are out there . 1135 01:51:16,570 --> 01:51:17,807 Speaker: In your public engagement report, 1136 01:51:17,807 --> 01:51:20,167 just a special note. 1137 01:51:20,167 --> 01:51:22,283 Right before school started I just 1138 01:51:22,283 --> 01:51:29,950 wanted to give out a shout out for a tool schools can use 1139 01:51:29,950 --> 01:51:32,237 to share messages with parents, their announcements 1140 01:51:32,237 --> 01:51:37,931 and on social media, it's already being used by schools. 1141 01:51:37,931 --> 01:51:40,909 Moving on, just a quick thank you 1142 01:51:40,909 --> 01:51:45,109 to everyone who either participated in Melbourne 1143 01:51:49,859 --> 01:51:54,659 at this event spreading that message of making 1144 01:51:56,667 --> 01:52:00,267 sure we are stopping on red. 1145 01:52:01,699 --> 01:52:05,931 lastly I just wanted to share some major awards 1146 01:52:05,931 --> 01:52:10,731 at our statewide Florida Public Relations Association's PR 1147 01:52:11,937 --> 01:52:18,537 and Communications Summit and we are really proud of these two 1148 01:52:18,987 --> 01:52:22,867 specific projects, the first is a brand guide which means it was 1149 01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:28,147 top scoring in its category and deliverables and the social 1150 01:52:28,147 --> 01:52:31,811 media campaign took home not only a golden image but a grand 1151 01:52:31,811 --> 01:52:34,693 golden image which means it's only one of three in the state 1152 01:52:34,693 --> 01:52:36,947 that received it and it just goes to show government 1153 01:52:36,947 --> 01:52:42,347 communication matters and we were really excited to celebrate 1154 01:52:42,827 --> 01:52:45,827 our friends from the city , 1155 01:52:47,622 --> 01:52:50,243 and it was on the day of the announcement of the rail station 1156 01:52:50,243 --> 01:52:53,155 so it was very celebratory and I just 1157 01:52:53,155 --> 01:52:56,812 wanted to say I was proud of our team and the work we do 1158 01:52:56,812 --> 01:52:59,212 does not go unrecognized. 1159 01:53:02,563 --> 01:53:06,763 Chair Andrew Connors: Now on to space. 1160 01:53:07,583 --> 01:53:12,970 Speaker: It's exciting to see the big things happening 1161 01:53:12,970 --> 01:53:13,340 around the county. 1162 01:53:13,340 --> 01:53:20,540 As you are all well aware, we have touched on this before, 1163 01:53:21,667 --> 01:53:25,987 not sure if everyone saw back in July 1164 01:53:25,987 --> 01:53:31,387 the Brevard Air Show the announcement of the expanding 1165 01:53:31,867 --> 01:53:36,670 footprint here in developing manufacturing complex yet 1166 01:53:36,699 --> 01:53:38,699 to be determined. 1167 01:53:40,670 --> 01:53:46,670 It's expected to bring thousands of jobs with it by 2030. 1168 01:53:53,707 --> 01:53:59,107 NASA announced they will be hosting the Max power 1169 01:54:00,413 --> 01:54:06,413 event at the launch and landing facility operated by Space 1170 01:54:08,507 --> 01:54:11,920 Florida, they will play a role in hosting the event 1171 01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,907 as the facility operator and it's 1172 01:54:13,907 --> 01:54:16,807 going to be a phenomenal event not just an air show, 1173 01:54:16,807 --> 01:54:19,187 it's going to be a major technology showcase 1174 01:54:19,187 --> 01:54:24,947 and there's also going to be some special attractions hosted 1175 01:54:24,947 --> 01:54:30,347 by Delaware North November in the visitor center that 1176 01:54:34,130 --> 01:54:38,437 will be open to the public, very exciting, 1177 01:54:38,437 --> 01:54:42,300 the public can come and park on the runway of the facility 1178 01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:47,100 and it's going to be a great event. 1179 01:54:47,250 --> 01:54:50,499 our Space Florida board met this morning 1180 01:54:50,499 --> 01:54:55,235 and they approved several additional major facilities that 1181 01:54:55,235 --> 01:55:00,350 are going to be developed, everything from processing 1182 01:55:01,867 --> 01:55:05,200 and testing facilities and major infrastructure 1183 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,800 needed to support the growth that 1184 01:55:08,947 --> 01:55:10,947 benefits multiple companies. 1185 01:55:11,507 --> 01:55:16,307 With that, I'm happy to answer any questions. 1186 01:55:21,894 --> 01:55:24,227 Chair Andrew Connors: We're expecting over 5000 visitors 1187 01:55:24,227 --> 01:55:29,627 easily, that's typical for the Cocoa Beach Air show . 1188 01:55:32,590 --> 01:55:36,859 Brevard County awarded some marketing dollars to that, 1189 01:55:37,532 --> 01:55:41,427 but this is kind of unique and it's not just an air show, 1190 01:55:41,427 --> 01:55:42,933 it's also a big event that's never 1191 01:55:42,933 --> 01:55:45,907 happened in the state of Florida before so the future plans 1192 01:55:45,907 --> 01:55:48,531 for this is to compete with Paris and England 1193 01:55:48,531 --> 01:55:52,539 in terms of the size and scope of the air show. 1194 01:55:52,539 --> 01:55:57,339 Really cool, looking forward to hosting you guys. 1195 01:55:58,987 --> 01:56:02,587 We've got plenty of parking Sam . 1196 01:56:25,936 --> 01:56:28,347 Speaker: Port Canaveral continues to experience growth 1197 01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:30,347 across all segments, 1198 01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,840 the fiscal year 27 projects that were announced 1199 01:56:40,670 --> 01:56:43,667 include more than 10 million passenger movements, 1200 01:56:57,307 --> 01:57:01,507 cargo activities with 5.8 million tons of cargo 1201 01:57:06,267 --> 01:57:11,670 passing through the port they proposed operating budget 1202 01:57:15,827 --> 01:57:18,827 projects $289.8 million in operating revenues 1203 01:57:22,213 --> 01:57:25,813 and approximately 95.5 million in infrastructure improvements. 1204 01:57:35,867 --> 01:57:41,867 The capital program budget is going to be around $249 million 1205 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,240 in infrastructure improvement. 1206 01:57:49,187 --> 01:57:53,387 The plan exceeds $1 billion in infrastructure improvement. 1207 01:57:57,507 --> 01:58:02,307 Cruise Terminal ten expansion and innovation is underway 1208 01:58:03,227 --> 01:58:05,227 planned for November 2027. 1209 01:58:09,987 --> 01:58:14,187 Approximately $18 million for improvements across traffic flow 1210 01:58:20,307 --> 01:58:22,307 enhancements . 1211 01:58:24,907 --> 01:58:28,507 The port remains committed in support 1212 01:58:32,579 --> 01:58:36,179 of local and regional tourism and 1213 01:58:39,613 --> 01:58:41,613 regional economic development. 1214 01:58:55,387 --> 01:59:00,755 We will shortly have plans to be working on an economic impact 1215 01:59:00,755 --> 01:59:07,355 study by the port's impact in the economy of the county. 1216 01:59:24,472 --> 01:59:29,872 Speaker: Just a few updates from some projects here. 1217 01:59:36,427 --> 01:59:42,427 The resurfacing of us one, working on their final punch 1218 01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:46,787 lists and close to completion here shortly. 1219 01:59:46,787 --> 01:59:52,439 On a safety note for September, we continued our campaign 1220 01:59:52,439 --> 01:59:56,390 for safety with the children making 1221 01:59:56,507 --> 02:00:00,107 sure they ride inappropriate child seats 1222 02:00:02,270 --> 02:00:08,627 and remind motorists not to leave their child in the car. 1223 02:00:10,307 --> 02:00:14,507 Also included in this month is drowsy 1224 02:00:15,940 --> 02:00:17,683 driving which can be as dangerous 1225 02:00:17,683 --> 02:00:21,883 as drunk driving and railroad crossing safety. 1226 02:00:28,627 --> 02:00:31,270 That concludes my report ! 1227 02:00:59,227 --> 02:01:03,755 Marie Smith: I'm the town manager of Melbourne Beach, 1228 02:01:03,755 --> 02:01:06,107 I started about six months ago. 1229 02:01:06,107 --> 02:01:08,497 Thank you for passing the multimodal study, 1230 02:01:08,497 --> 02:01:11,737 I just really wanted to thank members 1231 02:01:11,737 --> 02:01:14,737 for coming and visiting us. 1232 02:01:15,259 --> 02:01:19,710 I was listening to all the projects you are taking on and I 1233 02:01:19,710 --> 02:01:22,497 just wanted you to know we are very appreciative that you 1234 02:01:22,497 --> 02:01:25,495 don't forget even the little towns like us and what we are 1235 02:01:25,495 --> 02:01:32,695 doing and I just want to commend you for all your work . 1236 02:01:40,267 --> 02:01:43,267 Thank you all very much! 1237 02:01:49,415 --> 02:01:50,832 Chair Andrew Connors: That kind of 1238 02:01:50,832 --> 02:01:53,675 gets us to the end of our agenda unless anybody has anything 1239 02:01:53,675 --> 02:01:56,675 they want to talk about. 1240 02:02:00,343 --> 02:02:02,926 Mayor: I want to say that's the best public comment we've ever 1241 02:02:02,926 --> 02:02:04,926 had ! 1242 02:02:08,359 --> 02:02:10,776 Chair Andrew Connors: You're welcome to come back any time 1243 02:02:10,776 --> 02:02:13,193 come to our next meeting has been set for October 8th 1244 02:02:13,193 --> 02:02:15,193 at 1:30. 1245 02:02:21,206 --> 02:02:26,600 do I have a motion to So moved.