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Let's see, what's that we got about three minutes or so, here's the girl.

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That's what I'm seeing here too, so one minute.

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Girl, and I group grabs them.

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You can, on time point.

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And Wayne is here. Welcome, Wayne.

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That's what I thought you hesitated for. You were going to go over the ground.

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Hopefully that's not what the night is going to be like.

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No, no, no.

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Just sit there and I'll say.

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Okay, please everyone turn on your mic.

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This is time to begin.

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Okay, welcome.

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As we begin, the Brigham City Planning Commission meeting for Tuesday, August 18, 2026.

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We start off with the pledge of allegiance.

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So if you would like to join us in the pledge of allegiance, please do so.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And due to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, the minutes for the meeting that we have last time.

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I know I was not here, but do we have any changes that we need to make to the minutes?

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Jake, what do we start down with your side?

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None for me.

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None.

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None for me.

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Okay.

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I didn't see any.

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Go.

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We're clear under here.

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And Jason Nunn.

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Okay.

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Then I am looking for a motion for the approval of the minute minutes to the meeting on August

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4, 2026.

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Mr. Commissioner, I chair, I move the minutes from the planning commission meeting of

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Tuesday August 4, 2026 be approved as they are currently constituted.

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Thank you.

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Do I have a second?

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I'll second that. Thank you, Isaac.

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All in favor? Say aye.

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Aye. Any opposed? Say nay.

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Thank you.

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Okay, we are quickly down to application of

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26-076, permitted use permit.

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Bring them city fueling station at 1560 north,

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2,400 west, and mark you'll help us with the presentation on that one.

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Yeah, and we do, we have three individuals here for the application that can, and so after I do the introduction and then you can hear from them a little more and ask questions.

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All right, so here is the locator map, this area recently went through an annexation back in April of this year.

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They're at the corner of 2400 and a blast in S.R. 13, the skid-more trucking facility is what you can see there to the east of it.

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And that was annexed in several years ago for their truck wash, taken into the city services.

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All right, here is a enlarged area to kind of show you that site little more.

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that the site extends, if you will, the improvements for the project, will extend into the

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skid more, which is the brown bear investment property to the north for across access.

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We'll get into that a little more.

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So here is the site plan, I'll try to zoom in a little more.

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It's a little hard to see, so I broke it into two components.

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This is the north end, more of the semi-truck, I'll let them kind of get into the flow of it

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a little more, but on the north side there is an exit, you can see that the dark arrows

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of the truck wash that enters, I mean exits out onto 2,400 West. And so that would remain

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the same, but they would have an entrance on the far end of the north for the semi trucks, and

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then it's designed so that they would actually kind of loop back around and exit out of that

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the more the exit because of how close the the other exit is for the

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automobiles down by SR13 and the future stack and is that area

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develops.

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All right on the south side is where you'll see that the sea

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store, the QSR will let them kind of get into that a little more on the

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design of that but it's a quick service restaurant.

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They can explain a little more how that kind of functions different

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And you'll notice in the staff comments,

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there are parking questions that need to be further addressed

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because it's based on the numbers.

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And also there is some designated parking for,

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or at least charging station stalls

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for the EVs, electrical vehicles

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that they don't count towards that requirement,

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where it's a designated recharge.

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It's a lot like a few spot there.

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The building, okay, so yeah, so there are two access points.

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The further south one here would be the automobile access.

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And they are, excuse me, QSR.

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I'd like to know is that really a restaurant,

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and so we'll talk about this.

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Yeah, that's totally right.

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Help us with that little later on.

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Yeah, I agree.

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because I mean, we can be very specific and trying to separate them, or we can treat

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that a lot like QT that came through.

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They have a larger commercial store and sea store, but they have a kitchen element inside

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there.

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And even with, I'm trying to recall, it's been a long time, but with loves, they do have a couple

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restaurants.

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And I think the one was broken apart because of Carl's junior, but you also have a subway

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sandwich place there, and so it varies, but that's what we want to look at, and see how

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we can try to address the parking. There is a drive through that you'll notice there,

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and we've asked that they provide some a little more detail on the next review on the stacking,

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the menu boards, things like that, to see how they meet the requirements. And then there is

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an elevation difference between this property and the adjacent property. So we'd like to better

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understand how that will work with the retaining walls along there and in that area.

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They're working with between the city and the applicants working with Utah on some requirements

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for the intersection and improvements along that area.

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Here's the landscape plan.

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there's also some comments there and then the elevation complement them on a very nice

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elevation for their building. This is the front elevation face.

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In the west, the rear, and then the side elevations that you have in your packet, and then the materials there.

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So it's a quality looking building. We generally get an elevation on the canopies. We haven't seen that, so we'll look at that and see what's most likely will represent the gas company to with that.

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And then there are a number of comments that we need to little more addressed with the outdoor lighting.

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But I believe that's the overall overview of the project and I'll just come back to this site here and then we can go back and forth so it's a little more clear in the presentation.

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But in short, I guess let me, I think I did have one more slide.

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You'll see the staff supports this and subject them addressing those items.

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And then the stipulations identify, they do need to do a deed of 20 feet to widen

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2400 West that will be dedicated to the city.

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And that will become part of a road dedication at a later time as the properties

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develop kind of similar to what was done on 1200 West. And then they'll need to execute

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a cross-access agreement between them and this give more trucking to the North. And then

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just overall subject to you dot requirements. Those are the key stipulations there along with

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this staff for view comments.

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All right, that's all I have as far as introducing the item.

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Okay, we'd like to have our applicants also please join us now what we need to do since we are recording this, we're going to have you state your name and full and also write it down as well as part of the records.

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It's not perfect. Russell's used with campfire partners.

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We are representing the client.

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I also have with me our engineer and our general contractor.

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And we agree with all the stipulations.

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And we'd also like to thank staff that we've been working closely on this project for quite some time now.

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And we really appreciate all the opportunities that we've been able to work closely with a month.

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And we're here to answer any questions that we may have.

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Would you like to tell us a little bit about the QSR and the traffic and the flow and stuff?

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Are you ready to do that and tell us a little bit more about that?

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From the QSR standpoint, I don't believe that they have selected anyone yet.

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And so we are aware of the parking.

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And so that is something that we are going to be working with whether it's going to be a combination.

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similar to what Mark was saying that Quick Trip had done where, you know, it's internal

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to that. So, that hasn't been determined yet, but we are aware of that and we are

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making the necessary adjustments to that.

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Okay, and that parking will go which direction to the north.

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Yeah, we've been looking at a couple of different options. We actually did have

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We were parking then was required originally, but based on all the onsite retention that we're going to need we actually had that where it says southwest basin there that was a whole row of parking

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So we did meet that parking at that time, but in this process and going through it we had to make the adjustments. So understanding this I do believe though that that

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depending on how this is, you know, the QSR and the C-store, if it's a combination, we should

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be able to meet the parking requirements without any issue.

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So, is that an open area or closed wall to the QSR?

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No, it'll be an open area.

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They'll be able to pass through.

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Yeah, we don't have a floor plan of it, but I've seen the floor plan and then there

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is a pastor.

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Mark, if we could go back to the main, yeah, the main drawing, help me understand a little bit how the semi trucks versus the cars will be going through.

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And that's something that we worked with real closely with staff on 2,400.

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And the reason why you kind of see that plan right now is that we've been working with engineering

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because there hasn't been a final design for 2,400 yet.

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So that's why you're seeing that.

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And initially when we came in, you know, we actually had the driveway was a little bit closer

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and we had to make sure that we met the U. requirements for having that distance there.

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So at one time, we were thinking about being able to pull trucks in and out of that.

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And, you know, we listened to what staff had to say and we client went and that was skid more.

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And that's why we turned that into that opportunity to actually come in at that point and that's where the

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semi-trucks would be coming in. So they would actually come in, make that right hand turn, go into those

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high flow lanes and then they could actually, we have a turning template that it actually will come back

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ground, go around the tanks there, and then it will come back out where you can see where

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we have that little island up there, you have a lane where they can actually come out.

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So from the skid more site, there really isn't any way to get to the skid more site, they

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actually have to come in off of 13.

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So they would come in through there and then they would exit that they have no way to be going

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back and forth there.

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And that was something that we had worked out with skid more as well.

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They didn't want the trucks to be able to go back and forth, so we created it so that they could actually exit out there.

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With it being a template, nothing prevents them per se from going out that southernmost exit.

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That'll be striped and signed.

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We'll make sure that that's signed that way.

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So the intention is they come in from the north, pull through the high flows, turn to the east, and then go back out to the north.

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Yeah. So based on that, there is no intention of having any parking for the semi-trucks.

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No, no intention. I mean, there is a long, that eastern border there. There is an area that

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we left aside for one truck. Right. But if they pull back into it. Yeah, I know they wouldn't

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be able to back into it. And when you have the turning template shown on there, that actually,

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We don't want to foster that.

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Okay.

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So definitely no overnight parking?

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No.

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Not playing that.

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Howard, you're going to enforce that if somebody decides to park there.

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On site.

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Let's see.

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You mentioned skid more a couple of times.

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It sounds like you've been working with them and they're aware.

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They onboard and supportive of what you're looking to do.

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Yeah, we do.

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We do have the agreement.

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The lease agreement has already been executed.

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Okay, let's officially go down and see if there's more questions or Russell, well, is anyone else wanting to help present a little bit more?

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Yeah, please do. And then, because we'd like to ask more questions. I'm going to introduce him, but I'll put my name down. I'm Drew Lange, I'm one of the owners.

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And this and yeah, I just want to introduce Jim, because Jim's a long time friend of mine and we brought him on as the general because he's done he's done a lot of these and I've got him for a lot longer over the years and I just want to introduce Jim as he's also going to be an equity holder in the operation. So he can speak for us as collectively as a partnership as well.

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very good. And Jim, please write your full name down to so we can keep it for record.

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Thanks, Jim. That wasn't necessary.

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Lastly, I'm sorry, Jim.

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So I just, the only thing I'd add to your questions is that this is a little bit tight.

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We realize it's a bit tight, but working with a lot of fuel filling facilities and my

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time at Flying J and other places, we've done the best we can to try to fit what we need

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to fit on the property and make it work.

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Ideally, we'd have more room for parking and whatnot, but we will have signies like Drew

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mentioned.

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The idea is to keep the autos separate from the trucks, we don't want any other trucks

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coming in on the auto lane and getting mixed up with the cars and the pedestrians and

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that sort of thing.

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So we'll have some really, really good signies to keep the trucks routed as was described.

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And then they'll run to the store and do their stuff and jump back in and take off as the plan there.

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So.

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Am I seeing 10 pumps right there then for the autos?

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Yeah, so there's double pumps on each island and then both sides.

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Yep.

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And then the trucks out.

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Yeah.

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We got diesel.

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We have DEF.

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We'll have unlettered and premium unlettered.

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So I have a variety of all the fuels there.

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Any other questions from the, I don't know, construction perspective or layout or anything like that?

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I think we'll go through officially in just a minute.

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Let's see if there's any more, anyone else who'd like to present anything?

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So my name is Eric Villobos.

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I'm with Campfire Partners and the Engineer of Record.

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And so I've been coordinating with Mark and his staff,

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the reanxation process and taking some of their comments and really bringing this design to

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to reality. And so we do know with the addition of the QSR that we're going to have to look at

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parking a little bit more. You know, hopefully there's some coordination there of something along

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with those basins is that the drainage in this area is really tight. We also have high ground water as

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well. And so someone spoke about the elevations and having to raise that site. And so to be able

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have positive conveyance of storm water and going into the adjacent areas. This is where we ended up

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with about three to about five feet of fill within this area. Now these improvements have allowed

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us to fully detain within our site and hold those historical flows as we go into either you dot

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right away and to the north canal. And so we've been working a lot with Brett Jones as well

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just as what that looks like from a design standpoint and the interaction between you dot and the

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out of the north.

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And so definitely taking notes as far as what that parking looks like, kind of going forward.

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What we need to do, we have some thoughts there, as far as what that parking is, also

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and maybe even looking at some of our EV parking spaces, maybe we dedicate a couple of less

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parking spaces, and then also, we are tight along the west side of the site, and looking

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in some of the preliminary cross sections, there is also a 20 foot dedication that was

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brought up. But there's also a 15-foot PUE within our site as well. So that's something that

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we're trying to mind as much as possible so that we don't have permanent improvements within

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that PUE.

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And then here for any other questions regarding the development as well.

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Are you expecting the water basins then to have water in the mirror around with the ground floor?

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Are you going to bring it up high enough that they would bring? Correct. We were able to raise the

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elevations high enough so that we won't have your around a ponding within those basins. They will fully

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convey any type of drainage within there.

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I think we call those mosquito retention changes.

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Yeah, I'm a really from Texas,

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so they call them plighters out there.

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And so, yes, depending on where you're at,

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they refer to them a little differently.

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How many parking spots are we sure?

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As of right now, including the EV,

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I believe we are at 29 stalls, based on how we look at the parking

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with the QSR being in-store.

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I think we're looking at two different parameters between a hundred square feet per one space per 100 square feet or the one space per the 250 square feet

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And so if we were to look at the 250 square foot approach, I think we're shy maybe about one or two parking spaces

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And then if we were to consider the other approach with the 100 square feet, we probably have to squeeze out about five more stalls

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Is that realistic? Is that possible?

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It's a challenge, you know, especially with the drainage in this area and what we had to do with the basins.

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And so that we can have positive and advanced leaving the site and not having those mosquito ponds there in the area.

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You know, if we were to look at that curve line, that west curve line along the southwest basin.

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There is an opportunity to maybe have some parallel parking there that may not impact.

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The operations there within the fuel system, and we could probably squeeze another three parking spaces

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out in that area, and depending on the PUE as well, there's something that we can look at as we try

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to hold an offset with the basin within that PUE. If we can encroach a little bit more to the west,

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there's some opportunity that we will be able to hold that dryvile and still add a couple of parallel parking spaces

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there as well. Up there on the north side, where it says 22, there's no room for parking

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along there. By the two tables in the dumpster area, the looks like that could be.

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Yeah, yeah. Our Jake, we're actually looking at possibly extending that right there about

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another two or three stalls. Now, something that we can evaluate is a location of that

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trash enclosure. Now, we like the proximity to the building. I think it keeps everybody in

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safe environment accessing that trash enclosure. But there might be a little bit of

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opportunity where we can look at parking for that 22 is that it may require a

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relocation of the trash enclosure.

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Mr. Chairman, why are you here?

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here maybe you could just talk

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About the elevation then. So how would the elevation with the existing building work, right there on the property line?

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You mentioned was three to five feet. Higher? Is that right? Correct.

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Then on the skid more side? Okay.

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There's going to be have an elevation take off.

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I just wasn't sure with the elevation and with the cars come around and how that was with the building right there.

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Yeah, but we did ask for a little some sections that we'll look at a little closer, but

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Okay, so you're

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Yeah, something to prevent

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Car from dropping off

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Absolutely, and I believe it was a city common as well something that you know that this design here working with Brett Jones and just understanding

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The challenges there with drainage, you know, that's a release sprung up raising the site as we did and so we did locate a retaining wall over there

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Something that we failed to show is just some some type of fancy

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some safety fencing within there.

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And so with this iteration, we'll address that comment.

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We'll add some safety fencing there so that it will prohibit

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anybody driving off over that retaining wall.

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I think we're going to do.

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We're going to go around even more than once

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that we have to.

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But Jason, let's go ahead and start with you.

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See if we have comments.

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And then as thoughts come up, we'll ask any member of the group.

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So you mentioned roughly 29 stalls, including the EV stalls, how many EV stalls are there?

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As a right now, we're showing five.

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That could be flexible as far as what the approach is there.

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And so...

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I suppose we're located where right down here at the south end.

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Correct.

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Yes, adjacent to state road 13.

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Okay.

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For those EV stalls, those cannot be claimed as parking.

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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Correct.

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If you have five and then you're already short one or two, you're really short six or seven.

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Correct.

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Depending on the approach based on comments.

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And again, that was kind of understanding the building, the QSR and what that interaction

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is.

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I think we're looking at two parameters where if it's a standalone QSR, it's the one parking

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space per 100 square feet, if it is with an opening, I'm kind of passes way, you know, curious

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of what that consideration is, if it's the one parking space for 250 square feet, if that's

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the case, we have yet to talk to the client as what they approach is, but in talking about

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where that 22 keynote is, we can add a couple more spaces there, and I think we can remove

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one EV parking space, and that will help us meet that threshold, and so we'll be reducing

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down to either four or three EV parking spaces, but definitely want to talk those options,

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through with the client and see what that best approach is.

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Now, the QSR drive through here, is that a two lane drive through?

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It is a one lane drive through with a secondary pass through lane, which will be utilized for

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loading as well.

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Well, there's no intention to have two ordering areas, one on each side, correct?

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Just the one, okay.

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Correct. Just the one adjacent to the building.

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And then with you talked about the dumpster may move, because the right words is you've got the QSR traffic coming out.

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You're telling the semi-tracks to turn right there.

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So potentially, whenever pickup occurs, you would have a kind of bottleneck right there at the dumpster.

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On those hours of pickup day, there could be a little bit of a bottleneck there.

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I think in the day-to-day operations, we're hoping that isn't not an issue there, but you are right, it is located in that traffic area.

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I'm assuming this is going to be a 24 by 7 operation.

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Other than the QSR, probably isn't open 24 hours, but correct.

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Fuel stops would be.

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Again, the other thing I struggle with is the lack of parking for your trucks,

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Because all you're doing is encourage your truck traffic to come in by fuel and get out.

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There's no way for them to park, stop, come into the building, go to the QSR.

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I don't know how that works for us in my truck driver.

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They just pull up, they pull up.

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Next guy stacks behind him, they get their stuff, and they pull out.

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It's tight, but what do you do?

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Right.

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And the original layout, we actually had some parking within that area.

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It wasn't once we started coordinating there with the city engineer in Jones and Associates where we started looking at drainage and what this all met and so as we went through the coordination and iterations of design

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Unfortunately, we had to remove that extra park in area and we had to increase the size of that base and just so that we could have positive conveyance going out and no ponding that stays there within the ponds.

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Well, I just, I hope we, it'll work because if you give a truck driver enough of an option to go somewhere else, they'll just go somewhere else.

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If they come here enough times and have to wait them, you know, three or four deep to get their fuel,

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they'll just say, oh, loves us down the road. I don't wait that long for them.

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Or, Maverick's down the road. I don't wait that long for them. So, just keep that in mind.

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Absolutely. That's all I've got.

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Okay, I don't have any questions.

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So there's been kind of, I mean, the loves are just two miles down the road.

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There's many studies suggesting a demand for this at the location where it's being proposed.

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You know, Andrew might have a little more background here, but we did see a report that was provided to us that kind of talked about the general area and the different options they had for guests.

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for fuel. And in the report, it did mention that there was a demand for gas area, and maybe

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you can speak more to that as well.

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We did a full site analysis.

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Drew, will you come to the mic? Sorry, I didn't need it on record.

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Yeah, so again, this is Drew. So we did. We long before we even evaluated this for an

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actual C-store. We had a professional C-store site analysis study done and they went through it

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and we based all of the design and development based on that and so we took in consideration

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the Mavericks and we want to have something that's appealing and but we're aware of some of the

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model next, as I'm looking at this, you know, on the base and the base and extension, I wasn't

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in all of those, but, you know, that did take up some of the opportunity, maybe, but I think

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they've addressed it the best way that we can, so, but yeah, based on the analysis we did,

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this, you know, even on a conservative level, we're pretty confident.

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With the growth we have going on on the north end of town I can see the value of something like this.

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There,

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back to the loves that I drive by their twice a day going to and coming from work, and it can be a challenge for cars to get out of there.

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I don't know what the situation would be coming off of 2400 onto the highway there, the need of maybe a stoplight at that location in the future.

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Yeah, I mean, long term, that is the plan when Rita Ranchary gets developed to the South,

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that 2,400 would or could be a future traffic controlled intersection area there.

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It is obviously close to the new functioning traffic lights that they have there coming off the freeway.

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But that has been something that was discussed and has been working with Utah in the

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railroad for quite some time, is that 2,400.

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That intersection is the key entrance into the Rita Ranch Industrial Park, where we would

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anticipate trucks coming in and out of that area to the south.

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So until that time, it will be just like loves.

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they're going to have to wait for those gaps to come out because that would all be managed by

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you dot, but at least 2400 is going to be a four-way at some point in time.

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Mark, at one point in time, wasn't that road to the south going to be moved because of development

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that was going to take place on reader ranch?

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Yeah, sure what happened to my mind here.

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Yeah, so the current access for down by the Rita Ranch goes along the river there.

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That will be closed off and then 2,400 will become the main route and the wider road that will have unceded access other than just the crossing with the route road.

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It may not know this yet, but the type of stations and Claire Chevron, Exxon, to the

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Devitational

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Chronicle.

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With future developments, more from Mark probably, with future development and probably storm drains coming through 2400 in the future.

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Could we look at removing or making more parking for a storm drain over one of these basins?

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I mean, that's a lot of basins.

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And you've got three different basins there.

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And I do know that's because there's no ex out for the water to run off site,

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but with development that will come through there.

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that you're talking about probably more of a removal of a base,

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and possibly to be able to add more parking or green space.

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Yeah, I mean, all that's in time as the city can continue its infrastructure

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out in that area.

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The challenges they need to meet the requirement right now for the use.

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If not, we're going to run into the problem.

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And so that's, I think there was some good comment.

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There might be a dollar too that go there on the south that they're talking about, but then you've got your entrance into your driveway, so you don't want to, I mean, that drive through, so you don't want to have a lot of cars coming in and out of there, conflicting.

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I think what Commissioner Barker mentioned there on that north side of there could be some north south design stalls.

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Obviously, it just depends how much width and that radius of the diesel trucks making that

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right.

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I guess they'll come in and make that left turn to go north and hopefully there'd be enough

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area there between that turn, which appears there should be in some stalls that you could

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have, what four or five stalls in that area that they could park and still lead the trash and

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closure at that location.

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But I'm also almost wondering that if we were to shift the parking from where it's at now

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up towards the entryway next one down.

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So from the let's see that be the north side of that southwest basin

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If we were to shift that parking up there and make this basin more of an L-shaped

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Where it would come down more where 19 is called out where your your catch basin would be for it to run in

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to be able to then elixate down towards and become all one basin with the southeast basin and

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the southwest basin and have your parking more right up here by the stalls.

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We have a we also have a thought and that would be we don't know what 2,400 is going to

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look like what what the cross section is now there has been a request to add additional 20 feet

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that. That 20 feet could potentially be a part of the basin along there to convey the flows.

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And then this way we could actually, you know, we could work with staff and everybody on that

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design where then there was that potential where we could shift that basin back to 20 feet

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and then you get all those parking salts back. I don't know if Mark actually, if you have an old

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plan that actually showed, like I said, that whole southwest basin there, that was all parking.

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I just know that part of that road dedication is going to be for the road with and we don't have the basin in that area.

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But did Jones and Associates send you the design?

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I thought Carter was going to send that to you.

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I don't think they've received that.

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So that's one of the comments in there is that.

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So Jones and Associates who's been working on that design for 2400 West, they will be sending if I thought they had sent it.

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But if not, they'll send that design for them to incorporate to show with their final plan set on how that will all work.

436
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:02,450
Because 2400 is a key major roadway as that area.

437
00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:08,630
I mean, there's a lot of discussion and anticipation with those properties and

438
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:14,170
vaccine within a short period of time and improving those areas.

439
00:37:14,290 --> 00:37:18,770
So that's going to carry a lot of traffic that will start to address some of those questions

440
00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:25,630
that Vince talked about as far as getting traffic out into the highway 13.

441
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:29,970
But, um...

442
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:45,500
But bottom line is, we need to have them go back in. I think there's been some very good input that they can go back in and evaluate the site and look at how they're going to have some of the net additional parking.

443
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:49,510
No further questions?

444
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:57,350
My question was about the U.S. and you addressed that already, so.

445
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:07,490
So there was talk about adding parking up top of North on this part we're 22 is and potentially reducing the EV spots down.

446
00:38:08,130 --> 00:38:11,310
So the EV spots are actually self-inflicted.

447
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:13,550
So we added them.

448
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:18,770
That was going to be my question was there any requirements of those.

449
00:38:18,850 --> 00:38:19,670
Sounds like there's not.

450
00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:21,350
What about in your.

451
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:27,190
Do you expect any detrimental impact by reducing those in terms of

452
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:30,190
traffic that you'll get from those EVs.

453
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:34,990
So that's where we thought it would be.

454
00:38:34,990 --> 00:38:36,310
We could reduce some of that.

455
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:37,870
Easy effects.

456
00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:38,630
Okay.

457
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:39,530
That's all.

458
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:40,590
Thank you.

459
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,700
Commissioners, is there any more questions that we have?

460
00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:56,330
Thank you.

461
00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:57,050
Thank you.

462
00:38:57,350 --> 00:38:57,610
Okay.

463
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:00,910
Mark, do you have anything else to discuss with us?

464
00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:01,510
No.

465
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:06,460
Okay.

466
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:07,740
As a planning commission,

467
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:11,000
And we are the land use authority for this application,

468
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:15,490
and we've

469
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,360
talked a lot about the city

470
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:19,740
standards.

471
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:23,760
There was so much information there that came up with city standards and stuff and we were

472
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:30,320
reading through them and it looks like is there anything that you guys are worried about as far

473
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,860
as the city's questions, needs, requirements, that whole big list of things?

474
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:37,600
Okay.

475
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:50,960
But just relating the interstating of just the challenge that it is within the drainage area and then just the hitting the required parking lots as well.

476
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,400
But everything seems straightforward and it's something that we can coordinate with the client with and do our best that we can hit those numbers.

477
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,740
We should have a lot more property there that you could work with.

478
00:40:03,330 --> 00:40:07,510
Okay, let's go back to our requirements and the planning commission is the land use

479
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:09,990
authority for this project.

480
00:40:12,690 --> 00:40:18,430
I don't know with anything specific on the motions that we need to bring forth with the

481
00:40:18,430 --> 00:40:18,730
motion.

482
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:21,510
I can't, I did not write anything down.

483
00:40:22,070 --> 00:40:29,070
So, I am looking for motion on

484
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:38,350
this application, which is application of 26-076.

485
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:42,370
Do I have one of the commissioners that would please give us a motion on that?

486
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:51,620
Mr. Chairman, I moved that the Planning Commission, acting as the land use authority, approved

487
00:40:51,620 --> 00:40:59,320
application number 26-076 the permitted use permit for the fuel center convenience store and quick service

488
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:07,160
restaurant at 1560 north 2400 West based upon staff recommendation stipulations of findings of

489
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,240
fact and just emphasizing the need to follow Brigham City standards especially when it comes to

490
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,860
working and the storm drain areas.

491
00:41:18,260 --> 00:41:18,860
Oh, second that.

492
00:41:19,820 --> 00:41:20,480
Who is going to second?

493
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:21,560
Is it?

494
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,540
I think we're okay.

495
00:41:26,890 --> 00:41:27,950
I'll in favor say aye.

496
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:28,450
Aye.

497
00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:30,030
Anyone opposed?

498
00:41:30,210 --> 00:41:31,230
Please say nay.

499
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:33,310
Okay.

500
00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:34,250
Looks like this past.

501
00:41:34,510 --> 00:41:35,350
Thank you.

502
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:36,350
Easy parts done.

503
00:41:36,530 --> 00:41:37,390
Now the hard part began.

504
00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:38,490
Yeah.

505
00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:38,890
Thank you.

506
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:40,010
So much for your time tonight.

507
00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:40,650
Thank you.

508
00:41:40,690 --> 00:41:41,090
You're welcome.

509
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:42,630
Thank you.

510
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:47,790
Okay.

511
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:49,730
Our next item on the agenda.

512
00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:52,910
Mark is we have some training that you would like to do for us.

513
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:04,480
All right, we're just going to keep this pretty simple tonight, but kind of go through a few.

514
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,580
Let's see, let me go ahead and share the screen.

515
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:15,480
Before we do the training, I just wanted to mention as a reminder, and we'll send out another email,

516
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:25,000
but we do have the fall UTIPE conference that is coming up on September 9th and 10th if there's any interest for, you know,

517
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,820
social attendance or full attendance whenever and again we understand that some of you may not

518
00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:38,840
cannot make that and so but we just want to make that possible and then we'll remind you

519
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,900
as we get closer into October and mid-October we have the fall and you'll work shop with the

520
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:51,020
Wassage choice here in the Perry lodge or I say the lodge but the Perry city office building

521
00:42:51,020 --> 00:43:20,920
Yeah, what was that last fun? It's a workshop. The last one. Yes, so annually was at regional council. They had the was at choice. That's a really good one to to the revisit their plans every year in our constantly updating it. They're dealing with traffic. I mean transportation. They're dealing with trails. Just the various connectivity and you know, basically we all along the north. Yeah. And that's that's a good one to

522
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,540
participate in in that that one is uh there wasn't email we can recent that but that's coming up

523
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:35,260
it's a Wednesday October 21st and it goes from four to six they just kind of start it and you move

524
00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:40,140
through and people can trickle and that's great but yeah I mean it just depends with the schedule

525
00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:46,140
yeah to RSVP you just show up you just show up yeah it's been here appearing now what two years

526
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:51,180
in a row. Yeah, and we've had it in this building. We've had it in the county far west at one time

527
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:57,080
when they were trying to, but lately they just like to do it. This area down at the Perry city

528
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,140
building seems to work out really well. And can you show the details on that September 9th and 10th on

529
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:08,080
the September 9th? Yeah, the September 9th. You want the date? It was it. Well, I got the date, but the time.

530
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,920
All the time, it's all day, I think.

531
00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:12,040
And there's different sessions.

532
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Yeah, Fox through to it.

533
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,600
So yeah, eight till 4.30 or something like that.

534
00:44:20,780 --> 00:44:21,520
How much does that want to get?

535
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640
And that one's down at the Davis Convention Center

536
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,140
down in the lake.

537
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,500
They rotate having those fall conferences throughout.

538
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,820
And when it's close enough, it's nice to,

539
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:45,500
I know I think Roger made the Ogden one, yes, we hosted one here a number of years ago at the Academy Center, which was pretty cool.

540
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,100
Wayne's wife Cindy went to that one down in Ogden a little bit and so.

541
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:59,360
But yeah, very worthwhile. Both of these are good ones to go to to understand what's going on, how we kind of fit in with the state, give our input.

542
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,940
If we're not there to give our input, sometimes things go around us, and we don't have an input.

543
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,220
But it's also good thing to learn what's going on through the rest of the state and what our jobs are.

544
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,160
And they teach us more of what our jobs are.

545
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:20,980
In neither need, you said the first one, the Wasatch choice doesn't need an RSVP, the September doesn't.

546
00:45:20,980 --> 00:45:24,000
The September one, we wouldn't need to get you registered for that.

547
00:45:24,820 --> 00:45:29,220
And they actually have some, so what we'll do is we'll have

548
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:32,160
DESTRIE sent out that information again tomorrow.

549
00:45:33,220 --> 00:45:36,000
And then, let's say it's a two-day conference,

550
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:41,140
and we've had some like Solomon who was able to slip over

551
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:44,200
for like a couple sessions one time on Monday.

552
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:47,700
You know, just, again, we realize you have to work

553
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:49,760
and you've got things going on in your lives.

554
00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:52,880
But, you know, if it's an interest and you're able to do it,

555
00:45:52,880 --> 00:46:00,120
Just look at it and let us know and we'll get you registered and you can attend to what you can.

556
00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:04,640
But if not, we'll report back on those who can to do a load.

557
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,100
That we can use that for a little training, some meeting as well.

558
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:12,220
All right, good question.

559
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,640
What we want to do is just kind of go really over the staff evaluation to see if there's any questions there.

560
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,540
With the format, I mean, it's pretty basic.

561
00:46:22,340 --> 00:46:26,260
We have the application information, the application type,

562
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,160
and so forth.

563
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,700
We'll just hear a couple of things.

564
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,420
We've talked about this in the past as the application type is either legislative or administrative.

565
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,120
Today it was administrative.

566
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:43,700
The Planning Commission role here to land use authority today.

567
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:45,920
A lot of times you're recommending body.

568
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,780
So those are the two roles there.

569
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:54,660
Then we'll just get right into the Planning Commission responsibility,

570
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,920
which we kind of talk about the role.

571
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:00,920
We try to list it there in your evaluation

572
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520
and then you know you're to verify the city standards.

573
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,540
A good comment.

574
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,020
I mean we don't really have any standards for a diesel parking,

575
00:47:11,980 --> 00:47:15,700
but those are some good questions that in a way

576
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:21,600
It's going to be like a lot of overnight stay, but in a situation

577
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,420
it's like that if they're going to go eat where they're going to park,

578
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:26,480
bathroom break, things like that.

579
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:29,020
But as far as the other park with the park,

580
00:47:29,140 --> 00:47:32,500
they need to, you know, staff will identify, you know,

581
00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:34,560
that's a deficiency that needs to be addressed.

582
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,600
And we'll review that with their updated plans,

583
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:40,600
whether it's a two or three-time review process.

584
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,580
But those are good things, a lot of good discussion.

585
00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:46,780
But the concern, unfortunately, was something like that.

586
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:48,920
I know they said, let's stack them up at the pumps.

587
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Sometimes drivers will just parallel park along 2400.

588
00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:56,760
And now you got yourself kind of a dangerous situation there.

589
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:04,400
Well, they're already parking off the side of the road at the, at the, at the, in, in current, right.

590
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,080
And they don't have a fuel pipe.

591
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,640
I see some part on the side of the road on 1200 West when I'm heading into work.

592
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:18,040
So if loves is overflow, they just find a spot to park, they'll park on the off ramp, the on ramps, wherever.

593
00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:27,060
Yeah, and one good comment on this one too is an example, I think Jason brought it up as we had.

594
00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:37,640
I think is one of the Garce projects on the San Piper phase one with the townhomes that one of the good catches is where is your guess parking.

595
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:52,820
And so those are things that we have more eyes on it and try to catch everything and as a result they have their guess parking design and did a pretty good job with some adjustments, so that's some good examples right there.

596
00:48:53,240 --> 00:49:05,140
And then we want to be very specific in motion there's times that we need to clarify things that have been included or if you need to add additional information.

597
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:32,120
With the staff recommendations, obviously, we're going to try to express that they're support or concerns on items that need to be included, and so we'll reference those additional items in the stipulations, which are items that obviously require conditions of approval or things that need to be done, just like the cross access agreement needs to be done.

598
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,800
as a staff will fall through to make sure those items are being addressed.

599
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:46,980
And then the findings of fact, you know, as a staff, we try to identify those factual, legal reasons for that land use decision in your approval.

600
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:49,860
Anything that's supporting evidence of that application.

601
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:58,080
So again, if you ever get to a project, a lot of times we're identifying there's been some challenging applications,

602
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:05,300
where we try to include both kind of four or against, you know, that type of act, why

603
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:10,920
there's a reason you could prove it and reasons you could deny it.

604
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:18,220
But if there was ever a feel free if there was an additional finding effect that you feel

605
00:50:18,220 --> 00:50:25,840
like you ever need to include, or if there's an application that just does not merit the approval

606
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:35,740
Obviously, then those findings of facts need to be changed a little, I mean, again, if the difficult thing is an administrative application,

607
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:56,260
there's not many, you'd necessarily deny, it would be more of either you'd continue an application, which you could have done tonight, if you felt like, hey, I want to, you could continue it and haven't bring it back, but, but there are close enough that it's okay, they can work through those with staff as well.

608
00:50:56,260 --> 00:51:02,420
That was almost a question tonight because there's still a lot of open questions that we have here, too.

609
00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:05,280
One that I didn't feel really comfortable with is about the fence.

610
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:08,940
What are we going to do so that we separate the two properties?

611
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:11,820
Is that going to be a chain length fence, ugly?

612
00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:14,540
Is that going to be a cement fence fence?

613
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,060
That's just one little tiny thing.

614
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:23,100
And all the other questions should we really have approved it or should we have them bring it back?

615
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,260
I don't know. I'm not sure. I question that myself.

616
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,840
And this one's really six is on. I mean, I'm comfortable with it. You're

617
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,360
approving it and moving on to staff. I mean, if we weren't quite comfortable, we've

618
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:42,480
usually been pretty upfront saying, hey, we just feel like we need to continue this to get

619
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,660
a little more information. But it could have been one that definitely you could have

620
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:49,080
You didn't say, hey, bring it back.

621
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,080
We want to see how you're parking is.

622
00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:54,380
I think there's some really good solutions we'll see.

623
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:56,820
But it is tight.

624
00:51:57,580 --> 00:51:59,920
But ultimately, when it comes to recommendation,

625
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,180
the stipulations, and findings of facts,

626
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,240
even if something isn't pinpointed,

627
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:06,480
like let's just say, we didn't put, you know,

628
00:52:06,620 --> 00:52:08,280
you got to follow you dot requirements.

629
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,940
If that wasn't in there.

630
00:52:10,220 --> 00:52:12,680
By us approving it doesn't take away the fact,

631
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:14,620
they still have to follow you dot requirements.

632
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,500
There are just things they have to do.

633
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:20,280
Yeah, cities requirements because they still have to follow that

634
00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:25,680
We may emphasize one or two or maybe we've come up with some

635
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,920
Thought here that needs to be make sure that it's double triple emphasis

636
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:58,460
As I don't know. There could be conditions when we have conditional use permits where we're talking about maybe giving them a difference than what's actually stipulated in Brigham City. Like I guess two weeks ago, the parking requirements for the house there on 100 North, that was all about, well, here's what Brigham City says, the historical section of town is supposed to have, but they're asking for a little bit of a leeway there.

637
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:04,360
Yeah. And it's always difficult, too, and, you know,

638
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,980
Commissioner Crain talking about how do you get, you're going to increase traffic,

639
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,740
how you can get back on that road.

640
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,140
That's tough because we're dealing with the same thing with Taco Bell.

641
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:21,140
When it gets built, getting out on medical drive is going to be crazy.

642
00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:27,360
The next step is the city and, for example, there, really quick,

643
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Perry and Brigham City got together and talked about a proposed plan and they went and met

644
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:40,640
with you dot and on the south side when you all that challenges of getting out onto Commer

645
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,720
Strive basically you've got to take a right out of that frontied road and go down towards

646
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:52,460
Perry and eventually have a roundabout and then come back towards the light and eventually

647
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:57,580
we're going to have to mirror that on the north side somewhere where vehicles can get out,

648
00:53:57,860 --> 00:54:02,440
so they're not cutting through the new medical center to turn left onto a medical drive.

649
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:09,500
And those are the challenges that we have to kind of work through and it's hard when we're trying to approve a project.

650
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,360
But getting into the motions then is an opportunity.

651
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,500
We've talked about this briefly, so here are the two motions.

652
00:54:20,020 --> 00:54:26,320
So, as acting as a recommending body in the city council, once you get to the standard language,

653
00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:32,340
you know, approval of application such and such, naturally there's really kind of a couple

654
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:33,040
options there.

655
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,720
One, you can just get right into and say subject to addressing the staff comments, stipulations

656
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,460
with the noted findings of fact.

657
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,600
The other one, if you want the second one down, you can just say, you know, your approval

658
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:53,060
based on staff recommendations and stipulations subject, if you're going to say based on staff recommendations,

659
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:01,220
we would like you to include also subject to addressing staff comments. So, either one that you use,

660
00:55:01,220 --> 00:55:08,640
as long as it's noted so it's clear, even though they understand, we really haven't had a lot of pushback,

661
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,380
but it's nice to have that on record saying, hey we're proving this, but you need to address all those items.

662
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:21,660
Now, you may have some staff comments that, I don't know, I can't think of a good example,

663
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:28,780
but if there was a staff comment that was just, it wasn't really a city code requirement,

664
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,540
but something that they were in planning commission degree, any time it's a city code,

665
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:37,880
they've got to meet those requirements, just like was mentioned.

666
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,640
But if there was an example where it was just a recommendation, but not a requirement

667
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,740
of the City College. The planning commission could approve the project with the exception of that particular item saying we

668
00:55:50,740 --> 00:55:56,520
we understand it's a recommendation but we support this and you could actually note that in your motion.

669
00:55:58,860 --> 00:55:59,660
We just want to make sure.

670
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:12,760
The first thing that comes to mind is when auto leave did that solar bank there along 1200 and they were supposed to do the normal improvements to the road and everything because of the changes there.

671
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,280
And so we all understood that.

672
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,580
We made that part of our recommendation and it was after the fact you said, well, they've

673
00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:20,860
got together with legal and that changed.

674
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:22,040
Yeah.

675
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:30,080
I still struggle with that one, that decision, because they were doing some site improvements

676
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,280
that they should have done their roadway improvements.

677
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:41,240
But legally, I guess, where it was a conditional use permit and a certain element of that

678
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:49,060
like legally the city had could not require 1200 West to be completely built along their

679
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:50,740
side there.

680
00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:54,980
I still struggle in understanding that, but yes, that's an example.

681
00:56:58,860 --> 00:57:05,920
But, and then that's so the first little blue asterisk is just a reminder you can add

682
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:24,360
I think we've done that on time to time, and then as just as general reminder, after a motion is made, we need to have a second, and then we can have any discussion, for example, so let's just say Isaac made a motion,

683
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:31,180
and you had a discussion about something and he forgot to include it.

684
00:57:31,180 --> 00:57:38,820
Then Wayne could second the motion, and then Jacob jumped in and said, okay, we talked about this.

685
00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:43,900
Do you mind if we included that in the motion, and then Isaac could amend his emotion?

686
00:57:45,060 --> 00:57:49,200
Wayne could approve that second amendment, and then you could vote on it.

687
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:57,520
So Mark going back to where we're the land use authority, I didn't think we recommended it at that point.

688
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,580
I thought we just approved or deny or whatever, I didn't think that.

689
00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:07,300
Yeah. And I thought about that when I was writing it. In fact, I was looking back at some

690
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:11,740
motions and Isaac did a good job last week where he just said the planning commission

691
00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:18,020
acting as land use authority approved application. The only reason I included in there is because

692
00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:25,620
the individuals recommending to you guys. So Isaac is recommending to the planning commission that

693
00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:32,680
approve it and then you guys can approve or so either way you could just leave it take

694
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,200
out the recommend but he's recommending to the planning commission.

695
00:58:36,340 --> 00:58:40,540
I don't take it that way I take it is the person giving the motion is saying if you agree

696
00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:44,980
with me this is what we as a planning commission are going to do if you don't agree with

697
00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:48,520
me then you've got something else to offer so.

698
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:53,720
And that's that that is a good way you can just say the planning commission act in his

699
00:58:53,720 --> 00:59:02,020
And then use the authority to prove application or, yeah, so you can leave out that recommend.

700
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,880
What happens if you disagree and you want to motion to not approve?

701
00:59:08,180 --> 00:59:08,940
Like, how did it?

702
00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:15,420
If there's a motion to approve, you just say nay and vote nay and then you would encounter that with a motion to.

703
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:21,560
If you need to make the motion, and you would say the planning commission act in as the

704
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:27,920
land use authority deny application, once a motion to approve has been done, there's

705
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,100
not really a room for a month.

706
00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:29,820
There we go.

707
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,820
There we go.

708
00:59:31,660 --> 00:59:33,160
And you can deny it.

709
00:59:33,580 --> 00:59:38,480
You can say, you're just, you're just a one-on-door that I still disagree.

710
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,520
I see you go the opposite.

711
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,620
But if you go.

712
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:42,160
Yeah.

713
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,100
And that's part of the language that you'll have.

714
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:51,400
just say, you know, the planning commission acting as language authority, I recommend that we deny this application, basically.

715
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:59,960
So you're still, even though you could either say acting as a language authority, deny application, or I...

716
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,780
I mean, either way, it just needs to be clear. And then after you had made that motion, again, you need to have a second.

717
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,300
And if no one seconds that motion, then it basically dies.

718
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Yeah, we had one then went that way. Oh, that's when I had to make the decision, wasn't it?

719
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:32,100
And I think, you know, when you, a lot of the items that you'll have as the land use

720
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:39,140
authority, but you are considering applications based on a doctored code.

721
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:44,580
So if you're going to deny it, it's not because you, you've got to be careful, you don't

722
01:00:44,580 --> 01:00:51,740
deny it because you might not like it, but if they can't meet the requirements, for example,

723
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:54,060
I'll just, I mean, I'll try to use this one as example.

724
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:56,020
Let's just say, if they got up there and said,

725
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:59,740
we cannot meet the parking at all, then you could say,

726
01:01:00,220 --> 01:01:03,140
well, I mean, you could actually continue

727
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:05,320
them for them to bring in a revised plan

728
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,700
and make a smaller C-store or smaller area of footprints.

729
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,020
They can make it work.

730
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:13,800
Or you could deny it based on that,

731
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:16,200
and then they could bring another application back in.

732
01:01:16,780 --> 01:01:20,600
But usually you would just continue it to allow them

733
01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:25,020
But it comes to conditional use permits.

734
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,740
I mean we've had people come before just to discuss

735
01:01:29,540 --> 01:01:32,760
and the one that comes to mind was allowing roosters.

736
01:01:33,460 --> 01:01:34,180
You know chickens.

737
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:38,560
Just to get the feel for what the planning commission was going to do

738
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,780
and the feeling was we weren't in favor of roosters

739
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:46,320
but that individual still went back and at one point in time

740
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,860
was still wanting to move forward with the application

741
01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:51,960
but then something changed and they never brought it forth.

742
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:55,000
But there are times we've had people come in and just say,

743
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:58,260
I just wanted to discuss this first before I make a formal application.

744
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,160
Yeah, we've had some requests and by the city bylaws,

745
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:07,400
we allow individuals if they want to submit something

746
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,900
to discuss the planning commission they could.

747
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,580
And we don't see a lot of those, but we did have the gal that

748
01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:23,860
to on the tattoo, it's called Body Art now and changed that code because for the years it

749
01:02:23,860 --> 01:02:29,520
was not allowed in commercial and central business. It was only allowed in industrial districts.

750
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:36,220
And she said, hey, I do this body art and type of things. I want to place where a grandma can

751
01:02:36,220 --> 01:02:41,740
come in and feel comfortable not being in an old industrial, you know, area of town. And so

752
01:02:41,740 --> 01:02:46,920
So as she talked about it and there was a lot of consensus that, hey, it makes sense to

753
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:53,760
revisit that and so she felt confident enough to go back and make application, but even

754
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,820
in those discussion items you can't, you're not voting, you're just kind of giving feedback

755
01:02:58,820 --> 01:03:03,060
and then it gives them an idea as it worked my time and money to make an application.

756
01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:09,760
And that one went in her favor and actually her storefront is very tastefully done.

757
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,800
It's not your traditional, you know, or she had,

758
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,260
just right here on First North on Maine.

759
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,460
She getting a lot of gramasis, patrons.

760
01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:19,660
They don't know.

761
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,940
They're young.

762
01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:22,920
They're young.

763
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:23,900
They're not.

764
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,680
Still young.

765
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,060
See them sister Ross's ankle.

766
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:27,900
Anyway.

767
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,720
But anyway, those are some examples of, yeah.

768
01:03:33,820 --> 01:03:35,580
We've had the guy with the rooster.

769
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Sometimes we'll get applications with the recommendy body,

770
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,020
just like the gentleman that wanted to

771
01:03:42,020 --> 01:03:46,160
rezone in general plan amendment to allow for the roof trust

772
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,980
and he was a recommendation for denial.

773
01:03:50,980 --> 01:03:52,240
Were you here on that one?

774
01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:55,760
So the planning commission actually recommended denial to the city council

775
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,220
on both the general plan and the rezone.

776
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,600
And so when we after the meeting, we talked with him and he wanted to

777
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,340
pursue the next level to do diligence to go to the city council

778
01:04:08,340 --> 01:04:15,300
And then I think he realizes there's just a lot of appeal battle with utilities on that property, too.

779
01:04:15,660 --> 01:04:19,140
That he withdrew his application and didn't go on to the city council.

780
01:04:19,860 --> 01:04:21,380
So sometimes that would be a sign.

781
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,540
You have to put it there.

782
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,080
It's hard.

783
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,780
And we continue to get a lot of inquiries on that sign.

784
01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:32,280
Maybe the Rift Trust system would have been a good place for anybody.

785
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,400
It's interesting to tell you on that, it's just not conducive.

786
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,160
I'm going to turn trucks in it.

787
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,940
Yeah, and you can access that set up or they had a way

788
01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:42,360
or you'd have what's going to be $5 million.

789
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,500
What would you think that would be a good thing, yeah?

790
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,960
Yeah, that would be a good thing.

791
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,500
Yeah, that would be a good thing.

792
01:04:45,500 --> 01:04:47,400
Just off of 13 is the property on the right.

793
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,680
That's a really great corner.

794
01:04:48,980 --> 01:04:49,560
Right there, all right.

795
01:04:49,580 --> 01:04:51,120
So that's all that I have tonight.

796
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:58,940
Just to really refresh and just to really make sure when you're

797
01:04:58,940 --> 01:05:02,200
making the motion, if there's things that you want to make sure

798
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:07,040
addressed a lot of times, it's a pretty simple issue, there's something to know.

799
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,240
Does anybody have any questions on what Mark has taught us tonight?

800
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:11,440
Every there is no.

801
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,320
No, appreciate it.

802
01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:13,620
I see.

803
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,700
So, a denial forces them to, if they wanted to come back, that have to

804
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:20,480
re-submit everything.

805
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,640
A continuation does not.

806
01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:23,260
Is that right?

807
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,380
Yeah, I mean, that's a good question.

808
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:32,020
If you're the land use authority, and if it was like a unanimous, or a

809
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,640
like you'd have to have let's say it's afforded to denial or a six-old denial of that

810
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,940
application. Yeah, I think if it's denied they would have to resummit a new application

811
01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:49,940
and all the costs that come with. Yeah, of course we'd have to explain why it's denied.

812
01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:54,240
Sure, always when we deny it, I mean even for the City Council recommendations, we

813
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:59,900
should explain why we're denying it. Absolutely. Well, years ago there was a previous

814
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:07,440
a person had a conditional use for application disposal and things like appliance disposal, appliance

815
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,560
disposal, so like that. And they felt that they needed to increase the size of their business

816
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:18,180
which went beyond the scope of the original conditional permit. And of course, of discussing

817
01:06:18,180 --> 01:06:23,980
it, I don't think any of us felt good about increasing to that magnitude in a residential area,

818
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:29,220
so we declined it on that very basis, and I don't know if they still have the business.

819
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:39,540
They end up selling the property and now a different owner lives there and so yeah, but yeah, that one is an example of a

820
01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:44,800
One that was denied and they just realized okay, that's yeah, that'll let's not fight

821
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:53,000
Have anything that we've talked about in the last few months six months or something that we need to know a basketball

822
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:56,220
For again

823
01:06:56,220 --> 01:06:58,700
No Jack in the box, Roger.

824
01:06:59,200 --> 01:06:59,280
Yeah.

825
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:00,800
No Jack in the box.

826
01:07:01,060 --> 01:07:02,200
She'll play now.

827
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:04,220
Yeah.

828
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:06,140
The station's going to have a Chick-fil-A.

829
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,600
To get that will prove it.

830
01:07:08,060 --> 01:07:09,660
You don't have to be a double lane.

831
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,720
Yeah, they don't have it.

832
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,220
They don't have enough throughput for each other.

833
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:13,720
That's all.

834
01:07:14,380 --> 01:07:19,720
When they come, we just need to make sure they have adequate drive through for sure.

835
01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:25,160
We do not want to be an example of what they consistently do.

836
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,840
Yeah, but some people in an off road. Yeah, I can't

837
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:38,080
Okay, let's take that. Let's say they did come and say it's going to be a Chick-fil-A, based on the current plans right now.

838
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:49,140
And we know what we're hearing from all the other neighborhoods that get Chick-fil-A's and there's lines of cars going out and around the roadways and blocking drive-ins and stuff.

839
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:54,240
Would we be within our rights to say we don't think this is a good fit for this piece of property?

840
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:01,140
Well, I think, I mean, number one is per our code, they would have to meet the minimum requirements.

841
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,960
If they met the minimum requirements, we're somewhat obligated to approve.

842
01:08:05,140 --> 01:08:10,020
That's a trick, because Chick-fil-A, minimum requirements, and different than anybody else.

843
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:13,260
Exactly. Same with like in and out. They're not, but they almost-

844
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:22,120
Exactly, but in that situation, it would really be good to, I mean, hopefully at a staff level we can try to flush out a lot of those things,

845
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,040
But sometimes it gets to this point, like you're seeing.

846
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:30,360
Chick-fil-a tries their darnity to really improve their drive-through capabilities.

847
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:36,860
You've seen the double staggered lanes and runners that bring the food out, all kinds of stuff.

848
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,800
Yeah, I think you're seeing that, you know, a lot of improvements with their sites.

849
01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:48,840
But, you know, I think if you got to that point, we could just say, you know, historically there's so much

850
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:55,880
many issues, can we continue this to work and see what else, you know, what we can do to try

851
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:02,940
to improve this so that it's not impacting you in the long run and also just have an improvement

852
01:09:02,940 --> 01:09:03,600
to the site.

853
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,640
So I think you get to that point, you could just say, hey, let's, we need to further work through

854
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,880
this and let's see what you can come back in.

855
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,840
I've been in that parking lot by the Chick-fil-A that's on basically 12th street there on

856
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:24,460
I've just been in the parking lot parked and I couldn't get out until people were willing to let me back out and they were in the

857
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:29,680
The lines. Yeah, it goes through the parking lot instead. Yeah, that's terrible

858
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,980
And that's what we didn't want to see with that additional parking

859
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:36,380
Where cars get trapped in that drive through

860
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,000
Yeah, you know, you've got to be care. Yeah, so

861
01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:46,480
But I anyway, I think there'll be some good options that they hopefully these guys will do other than the trucks

862
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:53,800
maybe. But I know with the QT, just to let, you know, they're getting pretty close and where

863
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:59,560
they go in. And they're going to be just across the road from the four dealership on the corner,

864
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:05,740
the first one in Brigham Crossing. Who is it? And they will not have the high flow gas pump.

865
01:10:05,740 --> 01:10:11,340
Well, they're just doing gas station. There. Yeah. So it's a QT. They just barely open

866
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:16,060
a new one in Slaterville. It's in. And they are really getting aggressive.

867
01:10:16,060 --> 01:10:25,840
So actually he will be on the brick and city side then. Yes, well, but and they do have like a kitchen type of a service inside there

868
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:33,200
And about 10-12 rollers for hot dogs and stuff like I pretty much like the Maverick of Arizona

869
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,280
Yeah, that's why I kind of stand and even in the south a little bit

870
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,280
That's going across from the for the on the on the cross to the west

871
01:10:42,980 --> 01:10:43,900
Across the West

872
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:49,260
Okay, the difference there is they wanted to maximize their parking

873
01:10:50,260 --> 01:10:55,360
Because we actually have in our parking not to see more than like 10% of your required parking

874
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:02,380
Because I guess that came out after the Walmart building and anyway they wanted to maximize the parking

875
01:11:02,380 --> 01:11:07,520
But so they're gonna have a lot more parking, but we would not allow

876
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,680
them to have the high flow diesel

877
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:17,280
Pants there because we did not want to compound diesel trucks coming right there on

878
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:17,820
1,100.

879
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,840
We already have it with loves, of course you'll see that here, and it just, it just

880
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:29,540
not, we, oh come on, Mark, yeah, it was, it was quite an experience down on the truckers.

881
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,720
I can't even believe that.

882
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,520
I mean, I know.

883
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,360
All the people that are going to be in that one, you want to get in the truck and they're

884
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,280
cross truck 4 deal.

885
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,060
We're going to love that gas station.

886
01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:45,840
Yeah, but yeah, anyway, that's like, right now.

887
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:46,380
Fuckies.

888
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:47,440
That's what we need.

889
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:49,180
What is that?

890
01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:51,560
I've heard of them.

891
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:52,140
Springville.

892
01:11:52,380 --> 01:11:52,920
There we go.

893
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:53,980
They're big.

894
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:57,300
But I've gone to quite a few bookies and they are nice.

895
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,600
Yeah, you go there in your new city.

896
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,080
I've never been to bookies.

897
01:12:02,380 --> 01:12:02,920
It is Walmart.

898
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:03,820
Yeah.

899
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,080
Pretty much as a gas station.

900
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:07,340
underposed.

901
01:12:08,060 --> 01:12:10,160
Sonic, Sonic went out of business.

902
01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:12,600
What's happening?

903
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,740
Sonic went out of business.

904
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:20,620
We had contacted that there's an interested group that would like to do more of a coffee,

905
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:21,520
drink shop.

906
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,420
I don't know.

907
01:12:22,780 --> 01:12:27,220
And we haven't seen anything coming in, but there was a lot of inquiries on that.

908
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,260
Any ideas about opening up that road there between Wal-Mart and Sonic?

909
01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:35,340
making that wider and getting, you know, of course,

910
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:37,360
would have to work with Walmart to open that up

911
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,000
because it's a private road still,

912
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,300
and there's still something working with it.

913
01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:42,220
Yeah, the cities reached out to Walmart

914
01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:44,460
and see if they would help, you know,

915
01:12:44,660 --> 01:12:47,900
dedicate additional right away, and so we can widen it

916
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:51,320
because that was the effort we made on the other side, right?

917
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:54,540
And so that is the goal is to continue to work with Walmart

918
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:57,120
and get that widen and then dedicate it

919
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,500
as a public road and we get to that point.

920
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:00,400
Nothing moving.

921
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:07,260
But nothing's really moving right now, anything else happening by the BI, the new D.I.

922
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:07,860
It's over there.

923
01:13:08,020 --> 01:13:09,000
That's all we're in Perry.

924
01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:09,820
Oh, that's right.

925
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,360
You're right, Eric.

926
01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:14,180
But there will be a road that goes between the D.I. and their, um,

927
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,040
because here we're going to be told, what do you call the, the distribution?

928
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,900
Yeah, that's definitely service building all the service building.

929
01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:23,800
Usually they're kind of on the same side of the parking lot, but there's a separation

930
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,940
because of that road that we'll continue through.

931
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,640
I'm just wondering where that road is.

932
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,400
I feel like they're going to be on a certain level.

933
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,220
They're out about all I'm installing right now is everywhere around the world.

934
01:13:35,460 --> 01:13:38,960
I know some are not a favorite, you know, the city.

935
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:42,080
But there may be, there needs to be.

936
01:13:42,260 --> 01:13:46,700
But isn't that, I think someone mentioned that for the Taco Bell.

937
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:46,980
Yeah.

938
01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:49,640
They're on fifth tractors.

939
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,280
Well, that's what I'm building for Hill Air Force Base.

940
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,800
I'm building their brand new gate.

941
01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:57,540
And I'm putting it around about it right off of their gate.

942
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:03,740
You'll enter in for 1,800 North, go through the gate, and then be immediately met with the

943
01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,920
roundabout right after you're through.

944
01:14:07,060 --> 01:14:07,260
Interesting.

945
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:10,600
I'm sure you're curving slowly, and you're still bouncing over here.

946
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:11,720
That's not an ever problem.

947
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,980
Okay, I think it's time that we close on out, so I am looking for a motion to adjourn the meeting.

948
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:22,030
Oh, please.

949
01:14:22,330 --> 01:14:23,130
Someone's got to.

950
01:14:23,810 --> 01:14:27,230
Wayne, I would like to make a motion that we adjourn this meeting.

951
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:29,230
I'll second it.

952
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,080
All in favor say aye.

953
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:36,000
Anybody opposed say nay.

954
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,380
Thank you.

955
01:14:38,420 --> 01:14:39,640
And I'm going to call this one.

956
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,740
Seven and thirteen.

957
01:14:44,260 --> 01:14:45,400
I'll just have to.

958
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,560
I saw that blink on and off like your connection isn't making.