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Member Carny,

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committee member Newton, aye, committee member Salman.

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We're in that. Welcome, welcome. We'll take it. Vice here, Rogers. Here.

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And I am Anthony Walker, I'm here. Welcome, everybody.

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All right.

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So, so we move on to the agenda. Do you have a motion to adopt the agenda?

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All right. Do you have a second?

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I'll suck in it. Okay, so let's see, since Michelle's remote, we have to do all

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roll calls, yeah. We do. Yeah, okay, so I'll just, I'll just, I'll just see the quick version

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becker. I, uh, Courtney? I. Noonan? I. Samm. All right. Rogers? I. And I am an eye as well.

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Okay, so do we have any announcements?

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Well, actually I do, I want to make sure everybody knows that we've closed the cleanup on September

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19th, followed immediately by OpenHouse at the Sierra Point Yacht Club, and it's going to be

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a great day, so please put it on calendars and cup.

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Nice.

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Bring your sunscreen.

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then let's see, do we have any recommendations, anyone members of the public wishing

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speak anyone online? I will note for the record that we did have a letter from

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Orchard Partners, which was attached to the meeting online and sent out to the

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committee. And we do have two remote attendees. So for remote folks, if you wish to

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make a comment, please raise your hand. Okay, great. Welcome everybody.

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case.

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No hands, right? We'll move on to the approval of minutes. So do I have a motion to approve

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the minutes from our July 22nd meeting? We'll make a motion to approve the minutes of July 22nd.

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Second. All righty.

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So yeah, we'll do the roll call again.

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Becker.

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Carny.

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Newton.

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Hi.

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And I'm an as well.

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All right.

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Good stuff.

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Okay.

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So now we've got right our old business.

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So discussion of the June 2026.

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Oh, sec comment letter on the Bayland's specific plan.

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F-E-I-R.

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I added this one because I think, before I walk you through a concrete example as an illustration,

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I think I want to be briefly explained why I think this matters strategically for a second.

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Now that the planning commission has advanced the bail-and-specific plan to the city council,

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I think, you know, we kind of need to reconsider the concerns that we've voiced in terms that the Council can act on directly and will respond to.

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And, you know, I think probably the best way to frame it is really compliance at this point.

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You know, does it, does it comply with measure JJ and is it consistent with the sustainability framework?

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And any other specific relevant documents that might be out there.

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And includes, you know, where possible specific remedies that the council might be able to, you know, incorporate into the final plan, right, offer, offer our thoughts and guidance on that.

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Right, so I think looking back at our comments.

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I think OSEC still has many valid concerns.

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And some have been addressed while others continue to be sort of deferred, deflected, reinterpreted in ways that I think we can the original commitments.

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So at this stage, I think, you know, we should be pragmatic about which issues we kind of choose to advance.

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And, you know, which ones we think are still important.

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So my suggestion is that we kind of revisit these concerns that we've voiced at the

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planning commission through that lens of does it comport with the guiding documents that, you

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know, were adopted by voters and the city council, and consider setting an update.

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Did letter, um, voicing a lot of the same concerns to, to the council as a, as a group.

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Um, so anyway, just anybody have any thoughts, questions about that before I.

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I probably missed it, but, um, I just thought the, um, the basure freeway or basure boulevard was, uh, no.

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The, I forgot what we were calling it.

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The base formability plan and the road diet.

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Yeah, I thought that was no go.

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I didn't realize the planning commissioners approved this specific plan and it's in front of council now.

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Yeah, I wasn't aware of that.

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It's worth not entirely sure, so I don't want to say definitively.

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I think we, you, me too, should look and see what they did do because I think the recommendation

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from planners was that the city council reassess that plan.

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They were reviewing that sort of separately in a different bucket and they're on, you know, the

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did she stuff there was a recommendation to, you know, maybe look at doing more on going, you

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know, testing and monitoring and that kind of thing, but it was, it was very, you know,

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I was put it this way. I think we as OSEC can make a much more forceful and compelling case.

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Okay, I understand. Okay, thank you. Yeah.

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May I say something? It was my understanding. I watched that planning committee. I watched

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planning commission meeting and attended the O2 and was my understanding that the planning

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commission did not approve the road diet and only marginally approved part of the

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Brisbane Mobility Plan as it related to the Bayland specific plan, so there was some recommendations

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for modifications there. I'm still also very concerned that I feel like all of the issues

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that we raised in the draft TIR where it doesn't align with the specific plan, have not been addressed

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in particularly hazards and hazardous materials such as the Lizarre fuel site, you know,

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stop for chemical site, the lead deposition from Bayshore Boulevard and the lead deposition

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from 101 from using leadic gas for decades. And where the potential placement of a school would be

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which is right in an area that I consider to be a highly toxic and probably not fully documented as to what is there.

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So I still have serious concerns about the safety of where we are putting things for the plan.

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So thank you for bringing this up. Anthony, I really appreciate it.

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Yeah, absolutely, and that's a great example, I think, you know, I think probably, it's going to be, you know, that much more effective if we can now go back to the source documents and say, okay, is there anything specifically in the language of measure JJ, is there anything specifically in the

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a sustainability framework that would preclude, you know, or speak to your concerns, right?

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I think if we can sort of frame it in that lens, it may become that much more effective.

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So anyway, to that end after

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our letter, there were, I wrote a few letters of my own as an individual.

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And I think one of them frames actually develops one of the asks that we had in our original letter.

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Further, and I think frames it in this way specifically, so I thought it might be instructive for us to kind of go over that.

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Together to, you know, so you have an example of like, this is how this could go.

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Are we on quarry or are we on bailin traffic diet or are we on this this is bailin's specific specific plan and FER not not traffic diet

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I'm not quarry. No, not quarry. Yeah

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Yeah, so okay, so this one was specifically about the energy neutrality issue and I think it's a good example because

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It was previously asked for in our letter specifically that, you know, might there not be ways to address the shortfall in energy neutrality by developing out more renewable energy in Brisbane projects in Brisbane.

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Right, and that was our initial ask in our letter, but at that time, I think we were really just approaching it sort of as a matter of policy like wouldn't it be nice if that was the way that it was solved kind of.

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You know, so we, right, we asked the city of Maxwell's on-site renewable generation, pursue

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additional local generation in Brisbane, and then ideally only use renewable electricity

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procurement from financial clean energy to fill any remaining gap.

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But so the more deeply I read the sustainability framework, the more I realize that we weren't

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proposing a new standard or asking for anything unusual.

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We were asking the city, essentially, to follow the standard

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and implementation sequence already established in JJ

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and the sustainability framework.

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So I want to take you through that quickly.

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So we have kind of a mental model here.

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So the JJ, that section of JJ specifically

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says there required specific plan for the Bayland shall include a sustainability program for the

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new development consistent with the principles of the sustainability framework for the Brisbane

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Bayland's final report accepted by the City Council on November 5, 2015 Bayland's development

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shall be designed so as to be energy neutral on an ongoing basis. And then so it's the shall

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is energy neutral on an ongoing basis, but it's name checking a specific name data document,

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which is the sustainability framework.

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So, I think this ongoing means once it's completed

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it's energy neutral, but then there may be it's going to be energy awful while they're

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constructing it. Well, it has to be it's ongoing basis, so it would have to be, you know,

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in construction and after, presumably.

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Now, so then what it says about this in the sustainability framework specifically, it repeatedly defines energy neutrality as the development producing itself.

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Own annual energy needs, right? So producing as much as it needs throughout the year. And in fact, goes further in several places is saying it, you know, would be great if it produced more than that than that went back into the community.

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But it also recognizes that a gap may remain and establishes an explicit order of acceptance, which I found interesting and I didn't didn't know when we wrote our original letter.

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And it's so a determined capacity for waste energy

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or bio gas cogeneration to fill the gap of renewable energy

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for buildings, as well as generate site-wide.

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So that's basically if there's potential for electric generation

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from bio gas, I'm assuming from the landfill,

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then use that otherwise generate as much as you can on site,

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Right. Then be determined if any additional offsite community scale renewable energy is feasible within Brisbane.

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That seems to have been completely skipped over.

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And then see consider use of community choice aggregation, CCA program to purchase renewable energy if it becomes available to the city of Brisbane.

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And the reason that that's worded that way seems to be that in 2015 PCE was still not.

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Yeah, it wasn't serving customers yet.

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So it was sort of, if this becomes available in future,

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let's explore that as sort of a last resort.

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And that sequence really matters, right?

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It's, you know, CCA procurement and civil clean energy it's listed last.

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It's a fallback after the other generation options have been exhausted.

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not as an alternative definition of energy neutrality, right?

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But, unfortunately, the consultant, yes, as attachment 5, which incidentally was submitted

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after the close of the public hearing, nevertheless treats the project that, you know, generates

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only 54% of its own electricity on site and purchases the remaining 46% as satisfying

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all of the above. And it does that mainly by claiming that the sustainability framework was only

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ever aspirational, and that the standard was actually always renewable energy and not energy

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produced meeting energy consumed,

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right? However, we worked on that. Oh, it worked on that.

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and this sustainability framework was supposed to be accepted.

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It was not aspirational.

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It was to be required.

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100%.

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And I would have said that any...

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And compliance with it is referenced in JJ.

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It's specifically referenced in JJ.

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Which means that you have aspirational, it's compliant.

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It's compliant.

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I would have said so exactly.

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And so the other wrinkle here, which I noticed,

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is that buying renewable energy right explicitly does not eliminate the project, that energy deficit,

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it doesn't make it energy neutral, it just changes the content of the electricity,

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more importantly, when I looked into it, what's, I sort of was like, okay, well, what's actually

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required of the developer here? The specific plan only requires the developer to write that purchasing

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requirement into covenants conditions and restrictions and lease agreements, meaning that

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future utility customers in the baylands, not the developer would bear the cost of filling that gap.

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So, I'm going to just raise a point here too, also because of privacy issues,

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we would never be able to verify that that that was the case. Right. And so it is really

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get. Yeah, totally agree with that. That's, yeah. So to remedy that, are you asking that the city

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consider that the ownership of that requirement be on the developer? Well, I mean, so, I mean, I,

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I wanted like, Mary, what is, can you use your mic please, Mary? What would we go to council as

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possible solution. Yeah, right. So I think really the solution is, right, that, that, you know,

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we've measured J.J. says what it says, the sustainability framework says what it

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says. Yeah. And so, you know, the requirement was that it has to be designed so as to be

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energy neutral. Yeah. It hasn't met that standard. Okay. And so there needs to be some accountability

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there. And there's a clear, you know, order of operations, maximize on site generation first.

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I think that probably hasn't really been done, but, you know, that has to be required, right?

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And then pursue feasible additional generation within Brisbane. That's been completely skipped over in favor

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of CCA procurement to cover anything that genuinely remains, you know, so I, yeah, I mean, I think

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that is essentially what we were asking for in our original letter, but we just didn't have the

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So anyway, just wanted to give you all of that context

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and walk you through that little adventure that I've

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been on to give you an idea of the kind of thought

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process that I think we could apply to some further

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concerns in the original letter.

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Yeah, I 100% agree.

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I think at this point being kind of pragmatic.

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And I want to say, picking our bottles,

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I come back to that, but figuring out what we need to write that's on an issue and not a thousand bullet points is probably time to roll that up into a compelling argument.

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And things that might be our pet projects and are just a few bullets we can submit as our personal comments, right?

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I think that OSEC letter should, as you say, be concise and pragmatic.

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So you're tracking what we were going to get to this anyway, Michelle and I are meeting

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with Dolores and probably Adrian as part of the Dark Sky's ordinance to make a recommendation

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on what part of the Dark Sky's ordinance needs to be updated to include the baylands, because

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even though they say they're going to meet it, the town ordinance needs to get updated.

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So stuff like that can also be done separately from the OSEC letter.

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So I just want to go through that in there.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you, Anthony, for doing this and for keeping on it and working it and finding those loose poles and trying to fix it.

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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, thanks to everybody for being on it. Keep it in your hand level.

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So, okay, so I think we, for the last letter established a subcommittee, right, so maybe it makes the most sense to throw that back to that same subcommittee or should we handle it a different way, what do you think?

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I think that makes sense you have an existing subcommittee and that would probably speed your process along.

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I don't know that the timeline is very clear yet of the dates of the bail-and-seering.

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I'm hearing that on the September 3rd meeting, they're going to talk about something.

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The schedule.

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So after they meet on the 3rd, I think we'll have more clarity around what their kind of public hearing schedule is going to be.

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And that's next week and this committee won't meet again until I don't have the date right in front of me, but late September. So it probably makes sense for you to work on it as a subcommittee and be prepared to submit a letter, you know, as those council hearings get underway.

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If the timing works out such that a draft letter can come back to Osaka for review and discussion,

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then we can do that.

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But if not, I think you would probably want to have the committees kind of go ahead today.

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I think I need to get off of that subcommittee.

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I'm sorry, my workload is not conducive for that right now.

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Okay.

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We can get to that when we do the subcommittee.

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You can go ahead and I would say go ahead and talk about it now while we're on the topic.

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To just go ahead and fill that spot while we're discussing this business.

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I think would fall under this point.

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I think it was just the two of you if I remember.

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Hannah, Hannah, yes, no. I don't think so. I think I contributed to the overall comments, but I don't think I was a part of the, oh, you know what? No, I was. Yes, yes, I think I have nothing to say.

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I'm a fan of Anthony.

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That's because I did nothing, so that's why I remember.

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I'm a little underwater too right now, I would say depends on the list.

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I'm happy to help, but I not have the time to go down.

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Additional rabbit holes for other topics, as well, besides just noise and energy.

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Can I say that I strongly agree with Representative Becker over here?

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I think that I'm here in one thing, which is the energy neutrality.

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I'm here in another from Michelle, which is the toxicity where this school

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these two things. Let's not go down any rabbit holes. These two things we feel strongly about the energy

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on going thing we feel strongly about toxicity and all the other shit the train has left the station.

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It looks like we're not in contact with how the times are changing and the time is different now.

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So I think those two things really focused in and then again, not have 24 pages of it,

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you know,

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Okay, well, I mean, am I the only one then?

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You know, I can help you.

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I just won't be able to expect a ton of time.

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But I can absolutely cross-reference, you know,

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help refine and elaborate on some areas.

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Maybe we can handle some things remotely and that.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I mean, we talk about those two big things.

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I don't think it's going to be as extensive as all the stuff we commented on, you know,

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I mean, I think it, I don't mean to minimize the work you're planning to do, but, but,

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and you could ask me to help read stuff, but I just think if we keep it focused like that,

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I think it would be better than all of the sub topics in there, you know.

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Yeah, quick question. Do we also want to consider Ice House Hill,

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the development that makes it go from kind of native and protected to being a landscape

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park, even if they're landscaping it with natives. The trails, the horses, the public,

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the cigarette butts, the potato chip bags, they're turning it into like a trail heavy hill instead

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of protecting it as habitat,

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which, and it's, you know, as Michelle tells us, it is that last

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bit of, you know, undeveloped part of the, the ridge.

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Yeah.

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Potentially.

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I sort of have the same feeling about that as, you know, a lot of the other concerns

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and it's like, is, is there anything specifically that we can point back to that says,

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like, you can't do that?

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protection of ice has held was definitely in JJ. Yeah. And so then. Yeah. So I think that's

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something we've got to do is then find that language pick it up and say, here you go, this is

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why not. Okay. Right. Right. What it or maybe, you know, we can do this on the side, but

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almost just kind of comb through JJ and find those items that we can essentially tie back because

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what I'm hearing is that we essentially need a specific piece of legislation, you know, past

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by City Council that we can uphold and show the violation or inconsistency with what's proposed

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and kind of that create the guide map and what we push back on.

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Yeah, yeah, I think that's, I do feel that that's probably going to be the most effective path

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if we can kind of concretely point to, you know, with any one of our concerns, right?

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If it sort of rises above, you know, I don't feel great about this.

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There's still a lot of that, but if we can point back to like this specifically was promised

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and this is not been kept, then I think that ends up being more effective.

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I do also really like the idea of updating ordinances and requesting that to further bolster

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just because sometimes things were equal, fall through the cracks and if we're able to kind

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to have a more public kind of opinion in how we handle that, rather than, you know, general statewide guidelines I think we can accomplish a lot with just that kind of baseline regulation on a local level.

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Yeah.

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The DSO changes can be totally separate from our letter, though, just to keep it kind of. Of course.

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Yeah, yeah. I see that as two separate almost like paths to the same goal.

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Yeah.

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We could write as many letters as you want.

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Yeah.

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I'll still write letters, but I do like this idea of keeping it focused.

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Yeah.

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I don't live the idea of...

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26 story buildings, on pilings, on a landfill that's toxic, on top of bay mud that's corrosive

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to mental, but I can put that in my letter.

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Right. Right. Can I just ask something? And it don't want to take us too far

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a feel, but we just keep envisioning these big changes and what will happen. And

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every once in a while comes up the noticing that Brisbane is a seven day week, seven in

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morning till 10 p.m. work town. Does the council, I mean, do they want to have a look at that?

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If we're going to have pile driving and trucks rolling in and out, I mean, it's not for

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this committee necessarily, but I'm just thinking we keep saying this could be happening soon.

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And do we want to, I mean, we were asleep a little town until 1962, and then in a minute,

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but now it's like, do we want to ignore that? That it's a seven day, seven in the morning till

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10 p.m. worked out, the kind of noise and pollution and all that stuff.

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It's not for this committee, but what does one do to say, let's maybe look at that?

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I don't know.

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I think there's a letter in there too.

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Yeah, there's another letter.

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OK.

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Well, I think it sounds like we maybe have a Marchary Movers on that one.

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subcommittee, and then bring it back to the rest of the rest of the

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rest of the Bosec, everybody look at it, and then submit.

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The third meeting, it really, really are just going to be talking about the calendar

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and that kind of thing sounds like you're in.

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My understanding is that at the September 3rd meeting, they will be talking about process.

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Okay.

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Not substance.

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I mean, that does make sense.

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So we're not in danger of them going mozzled off.

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if it's a bail-ance in one meeting.

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I mean, I would not want to comment on what will

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I won't have it, but it seems highly unlikely.

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And I guess I would just say, do you want to expect that your little

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will come back to this subcommittee?

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Or do you want to have committees approval at this point in time

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to delegate the subcommittee to go ahead and send

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the letter if timing requires?

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I wouldn't like to, what do you call, make a motion

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that you guys write the letter?

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And if timing requires, you have O6 permission to send it,

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but the preference is to see that the next meeting.

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Can I make that motion now?

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was too late to second it, yeah, I'll third it.

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OK, yeah.

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I agree with that too.

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I think we'll take a roll call.

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Oh, yeah.

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and I just want to clarify. Well, go ahead and take your vote on that motion. Okay. Okay.

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So, uh, beggar. Hi, uh, Courtney. Hi. Noonan. Hi, Saman. Hi. Rogers. Hi. And I'm going to as well.

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All right. We're going to agreement then. And before we move on to our next item, I just want to clarify.

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the subcommittee is Walker and Carney no longer becker. Did I hear a noonin ability to help with the

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drafting? Sure. Okay, so the subcommittee will now be Walker, Carney, and Noonin. Rather than becker.

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Amazing. Do you have kind of an extra JJ and all the documents associated with that?

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Yeah, yeah. JJ is definitely online. Both JJ and the sustainability framework are

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Maybe we can, can we get links to that after the meeting, sent out to everybody just so.

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I mean, no.

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They're right there on the bail-ins.

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Yeah.

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Website.

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The, is the original text of JJ there?

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I can check if you'd like to move on.

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And if it's not there, I can send it up.

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That'd be great.

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I'm actually pretty positive that the original 2015 Sustainability Framework isn't.

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They've sort of rewritten it and added pictures and things, but...

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No, it's there.

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Is it?

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I'm pretty sure I referenced it on that page.

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All right.

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Let me just...

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Well, if anybody's going looking for it, don't use the one with pictures, because that's then pretty heavily rewritten.

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can

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you see that on your screens? Okay, so if you go from the city's home page,

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make sure that I mean just navigate you back from the city's home page,

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Brisbane Baleans, major documents,

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sustainability framework, and then you also

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have Measure JJ here on the left and I think that has, that's got the PDF, yeah.

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So we have the final EIR there, and for 2015, for with JJ, is that it?

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Sorry, my mouse keeps trying to jump to the other screen.

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The final EIR from 2026, the 2026 specific planned 2025 drafts.

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All of that is here on the major documents page.

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Okay, great. All in one place. We like that.

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Yes. Thank you.

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And we see the sustainability framework to make sure that it's the one that Anthony is referring to.

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Is that the one Anthony? This one has a lot of the.

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Yeah, yeah, this is the one is the original document, the 20.

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This is the original right.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Excellent.

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We're ready to.

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All right.

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So she'll move on to new business.

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So discussion of the core innovation and center project.

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and notice a preparation of recirculated draft ERR.

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So do we have, we've received the notice that they're going to prepare a recirculated

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draft ERR, but we don't have one to read yet, so do we have things that anyone wants to

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discuss specifically about it before we?

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Questions? What is it mean that it is re-circulated? Does that mean it's the same document or that they will have updated it with?

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With all of the comments that we submitted or the ones that at least they think are relevant or what's going on?

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What does that mean really?

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Okay, let me see if I can give you an answer that I hope will be

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correct

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I should have been more prepared on this, so my understanding is that the applicant has submitted a project that is substantially different from the original application, which the previous EIR was based on and since it is differing by a substantial amount from that process.

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Project, they need to revise the EIR. So the notice of preparation is letting the public and relevant agencies know that they will be preparing a revised environmental impact report.

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I believe since some, obviously, some things are relevant and some things are not from the EIR that was previously circulated.

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So I don't know that it's, you know,

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they're not necessarily starting from scratch.

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But my understanding is that there would be a revised EIR.

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Some portions obviously may be the same,

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and other portions would be updated

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with the new information based on the new project scope.

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And to what extent that incorporates comments

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that were made in the prior EIR,

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it would be hard for me to say that probably varies by topic area and relevance to the new project.

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Hopefully I didn't mistate anything in there but that's that's kind of my that's helpful.

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And so since they gave us notice that they're going to prepare it. Is this the time that we would

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put in our major comments that might heavily affect the document? I like the head nods.

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So, typically with a notice of preparation, you would want to be asking for specific things

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that you want studied in the EIR, specific look at particular habitat impact or something

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along those lines.

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So if there is something that you want to make sure is studied in the EIR, this NOP is the

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opportunity to get that on their radar to be considered as part of their preparation of the revised EIR.

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And typically those comments are integrated in the respective sequence section.

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So it's actually a part of the EIR record.

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Is your relevant comment in what you would like them to highlight or analyze?

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I'm going to tip my hand here and tell you what my thing is.

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One of the comments that's in our previous comments says the DEIR says that the baseline

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to compare all development impacts against is the existing quality condition.

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All mining projects are required by Samara to have reclamation plans and a bond to offset

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the cost of reclamation. Therefore, we believe that baseline should be the Samara required

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reclaimed condition. I'm going to add that that if baseline is the, you know, already

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used land, it's on the land owner's interest to do horrible things to their land before a DE

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before an EIR because then they're always going to look better than the baseline. And I don't

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think we should let that happen, right? If they're required by another agency to reclaim the land,

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the reclaimed conditions should be the baseline for whatever Brisbane allows on that land.

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So, right, does that seem reasonable?

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Yeah, and the other danger is they make it look good without having done the proper engineering

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a background for it, so then it looks okay. And instead of knowing what this real situation is with

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the land, I think they've done a lot of that. That's my personal opinion from observing it.

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Yeah, it's almost as if they are refraining pre-project conditions to like pre-development

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conditions, because those, as you're saying, can defer greatly. Right. And we have the city of

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getting credit for something that Brisbane, you know, can't control.

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Is that, can we make does that a legitimate comment under SQA? Can we make that comment?

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You can absolutely make that comment. They essentially put it where it's most appropriate and

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kind of, they still will take what is, the kind of, this is kind of going back to like our

439
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comments on the EIR. It has to relate to the secret checklist question. So you try and relate the two kind of similar to what's going on with measure JJ, you try and merge your comment with what they are analyzing in those sequence questions.

440
00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:22,930
But if you do, when you can make your case, they'll totally summarize and in theory if they are doing it correctly, should be addressing it in that section as a part of the NOP comment process.

441
00:42:29,950 --> 00:42:48,430
I guess I'm curious about from a process perspective, then, what does that look like, like, who would we be submitting to and given that we don't really know the contours of the specifics of the new plan?

442
00:42:48,430 --> 00:43:09,370
Do they just kind of have to be general concerns around, you know, this or that habitat or, you know, geology or, I mean, there is some information about the project, both on the city's website and on the developers website in general terms, yeah, to reference.

443
00:43:10,670 --> 00:43:21,450
And then I think you could potentially look back as Erin's doing to your, yeah, our letter from the prior round to the prior EIR draft that was out.

444
00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:26,430
So I think you have those kind of reference points to rely on.

445
00:43:26,610 --> 00:43:28,190
That's kind of the next we're working with.

446
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:30,410
Yeah, I would think so.

447
00:43:31,350 --> 00:43:31,510
Okay.

448
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:32,270
Can I say something?

449
00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:33,310
Of course.

450
00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:33,590
Oh, yeah.

451
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:34,410
Go ahead, Michelle.

452
00:43:35,050 --> 00:43:44,330
A couple of things one is I feel like I still don't have answers to a lot of the questions and concerns that we put through for the previous draft EIR.

453
00:43:45,630 --> 00:44:00,670
And then the other thing is this be very careful when you look at this because they are planning to put in a substation of PG&E type substation power station and build two 200 foot tall transmission towers to be able.

454
00:44:00,670 --> 00:44:07,230
I'm not on their property on the county property to be able to hook up to the attention power lines.

455
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:16,910
And that is a very significant change in the environmental conditions and also into an area that

456
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:27,310
is really high fire area and high habitat area. And we really need to make sure that they address that.

457
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:31,350
the notice of preparation is a chance for us to say, you need to look at this, you need to look

458
00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:36,530
at that, you need to look at this, you need to look at that. And every single time that we've had

459
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:43,090
a notice of preparation on this project, they did one during December. I think it was 2023 when

460
00:44:43,090 --> 00:44:48,550
everybody was on vacation. And the comments for 2 January 3rd. And then the next one they did was

461
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:55,030
over 4th July, weekend. And this one's over Labor Day. So they have kind of a, and supposedly

462
00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:59,630
that isn't planned, but they have kind of this pattern of doing it when.

463
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980
People are most distracted, so we really, really need to pay attention to what things we want looked at and put those comments in the notice of preparation, so that they are addressed and not just overlooked or, oh, we already looked at that, no, you need to look at that again, because this is a very different project than the project that we looked at the first time, including this huge power substation, like 50 like gigantic megawatt

464
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:37,020
whatever things, you know, so this is a significant change in what they're requesting.

465
00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:44,780
And the term data centers is not well-defined, so they're again, we are still very vulnerable

466
00:45:44,780 --> 00:45:47,180
in that area as well.

467
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:57,800
Just a point of clarification. So the query, the real estate, that is still under the county, right?

468
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:09,800
So, Brisbane has not taken that over yet. Correct? Correct. So, it has to be cleaned up before we take it over. I mean, don't we have, right?

469
00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:15,440
Brisbane is a sphere of influence and it's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong Adrian.

470
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:26,720
But it's my understanding that it is in the counties and when we have a development agreement and they begin development and it will be annexed to Brisbane.

471
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,780
the part that will be developed.

472
00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:32,540
The rest that we'll remain in the county.

473
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:35,200
So we've spent my understanding.

474
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:38,720
So like for instance, if we did a moratorium right now,

475
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,280
if we only changed the two zones that were discussed

476
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:49,440
in yesterday's data center meeting to not

477
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,080
allowing data centers in those areas,

478
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,840
we would still be vulnerable for the quarry,

479
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920
because it is not yet in Brisbane.

480
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:05,460
So we don't have the right to change the zoning on that at this time. So it's false to say that zoning is not allowed there at this point because it's not part of Brisbane yet.

481
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:05,820
Right.

482
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:10,480
This is still part of the county. So until the county.

483
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Seeds it to Brisbane to annex it.

484
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,720
So we're in this like vulnerable, right, but a nebulous zone here.

485
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:27,460
But the city should not sign on the dotted line and tell everything's when cleaned up

486
00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:30,620
satisfactorily, right?

487
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,680
That I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry. I have some leverage there. Don't we?

488
00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:42,560
I don't know. I can't answer that. Mary. Okay. They have a whole legal team that needs to answer

489
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:48,100
those kinds of questions, not me. I'm just telling you from what I know that it's not currently

490
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:55,620
in city limits. Okay. But it is in our sphere of influence and would be annexed by Brisbane.

491
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:04,900
So in the day, the county threatened to let daily city annex all of it, including Brock

492
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:08,520
and Duster Park, which is how we ended up with the Northeast Ridge.

493
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:14,710
Okay. Well, okay. The

494
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:23,710
It looks like, right, comments should be submitted no later than 5 p.m. on September 8th.

495
00:48:24,590 --> 00:48:25,070
They're saying.

496
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:28,510
So that's not much time.

497
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:36,970
Right, and so there is a, a scoping meeting on September 1st.

498
00:48:37,090 --> 00:48:42,130
And remember, this is not, you're not commenting on an AR.

499
00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:52,470
your just submitting comments on what you want to be studied. So I would expect that kind of

500
00:48:52,470 --> 00:49:01,770
lift to be a little bit smaller than going through a full comment in detail.

501
00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:07,470
And if you felt something was not adequately addressed in the last draft the IR,

502
00:49:07,470 --> 00:49:10,370
This would be the place to repeat that request.

503
00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:11,370
Right.

504
00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:15,210
I also have just a quick question.

505
00:49:15,350 --> 00:49:22,970
Do we have any legislation in place creating guardrails for projects like this?

506
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:29,450
Because I know with kind of the influx of data center projects throughout the US,

507
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:34,130
a lot of communities have been kind of similar to like creating just ordinances.

508
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:41,410
like you can kind of push the public for city council to adopt not necessarily or should say like

509
00:49:41,410 --> 00:49:48,490
language, not just allowing a free for all for developers. You can put in requirements where

510
00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:54,790
we don't exceed a certain noise limit or emissions limit or something like that. So it's not just

511
00:49:54,790 --> 00:50:01,470
kind of like the applicant can create an EIR make whatever kind of conclusions they want and then

512
00:50:01,470 --> 00:50:03,810
everyone goes, oh yeah, rubber stamp, good to go.

513
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:07,950
So I'm not sure if that's something that we would ever want to consider, write a letter

514
00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:13,190
to City Council to recommend, but as this is becoming more and more popular, especially in

515
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:17,570
the San Francisco Bay area, it might just be something to consider, kind of going back

516
00:50:17,570 --> 00:50:18,730
to our previous conversation.

517
00:50:19,710 --> 00:50:23,570
And that's what yesterday's subcommittee meeting was about and the council is working on

518
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:23,990
it.

519
00:50:24,830 --> 00:50:30,150
And it's been requested by Madison since April that we do this, that we take this action.

520
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:32,650
and we haven't gotten there yet.

521
00:50:32,650 --> 00:50:34,050
Okay, good to know.

522
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:34,070
Good to know.

523
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:34,550
Yeah.

524
00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:37,390
They're working it up, guys.

525
00:50:37,690 --> 00:50:37,810
All right.

526
00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:38,550
Yeah, really.

527
00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:39,750
It's too late.

528
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:46,830
So I want to just couple things, yes, I was going to mention that there was a planning

529
00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:53,510
issue of subcommittee meeting on data centers yesterday that was at least the second meeting

530
00:50:54,190 --> 00:51:00,010
perhaps more that they have had as a subcommittee on that topic and the outcome of that

531
00:51:00,010 --> 00:51:06,810
meeting was that they have requested to the subcommittee ask to put that on the full Council's

532
00:51:06,810 --> 00:51:16,090
agenda for their September 17 meeting. So that is kind of the direction that that is going.

533
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:28,930
I also want to just put on the record that the query has stated in their documentation that

534
00:51:28,930 --> 00:51:30,750
they are not proposing a data center.

535
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:40,050
So I do want to kind of call that out and be careful that we are not conflating the two things.

536
00:51:41,290 --> 00:51:48,350
And then with regard to kind of broader noise or other kind of requirements, I mean we

537
00:51:48,350 --> 00:51:55,750
do have many different requirements in zoning, ordinance and other municipal code around

538
00:51:55,750 --> 00:52:03,730
allowable noise limits, and what is allowed to be developed in what areas, and those different kinds of things.

539
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:12,330
So there are a lot of different mechanisms that exist besides going through this EIR process.

540
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:22,660
Yes, I will revise not data set or query innovation center opportunity.

541
00:52:22,660 --> 00:52:23,460
Yep,

542
00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:29,980
they've been taking off this full page yet.

543
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,380
Let's say no data center.

544
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,940
Why didn't they in their left?

545
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:35,740
They say no data center.

546
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:41,020
They have to because they tried to sneak it in as an alternative use and the first DIR.

547
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,740
People aren't feeling the data.

548
00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:44,220
They brought it on themselves.

549
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:45,560
I will.

550
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:53,100
I came up very clearly yesterday in the meeting and raised by one of the speakers from the CRCLA.

551
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,220
There is no actual solid definition of what a data center is.

552
00:52:58,220 --> 00:53:05,700
And back in the day, a data center was a closet with a, I mean, we have a data center right there behind Jason in that room.

553
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:07,140
That's a data center technically.

554
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Technically.

555
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:12,980
So that just because they'd like no data centers, you can call it what you want.

556
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,800
But it doesn't change what they might do.

557
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,580
So just be careful about using that term.

558
00:53:23,020 --> 00:53:23,860
Yeah, yeah.

559
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:24,360
Yeah.

560
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,340
We've got to, they had to define that.

561
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:30,360
And hopefully that's what that subcommittee is going to have.

562
00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:31,740
That was certainly part of the discussion.

563
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,740
And Adrian, thank you for representing sustainability.

564
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:37,160
Yesterday you did a great job.

565
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:38,860
Thank you.

566
00:53:42,260 --> 00:53:42,680
Okay.

567
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:45,920
Well, so what do we want to, sorry?

568
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:47,620
Before I make a motion, can I make a suggestion?

569
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,560
There's almost no time.

570
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,740
In my brain, I see two routes forward.

571
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,380
One is we make a subcommittee that acts very quickly

572
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:59,600
and sediments a letter straight to in response to this.

573
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,920
The second one is that we all pick our pet projects

574
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,240
and make our own personal letters

575
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:09,140
and hope that nothing here gets left or lost,

576
00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:13,300
but at least we've asked for the things that we think are the most important.

577
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,880
And some of those things were probably going to get asked for twice.

578
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:25,160
Either one of those in my mind is fine, because this is only the notice of preparation, it's not the new DEIR.

579
00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:26,420
Is that fair?

580
00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:29,220
I don't care which one, honestly.

581
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:38,440
We could do a letter as an OSEC body, and then they would have to consider all comments in that letter for the NOP,

582
00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:45,880
and then maybe as private citizens, we can take our passion topic and comment where we think is appropriate.

583
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:59,940
Yeah, I would just say that you'll have to designate a subcommittee to do that letter and submit on the committees behalf without the full committee saying it because that deadline is before the committee will meet again.

584
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:04,040
You're right. It's like really soon. It's like two weeks or three.

585
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:13,540
I think I can either do that, or the earlier subcommittee with Mr. JJ is kind of where I'm

586
00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:19,060
that, personally, just a heads up, but the core is one of my pet slash pet pre-project.

587
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,780
So I would be on a subcommittee, or I would write a really good letter on my own.

588
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,120
You guys can decide whether you want what you want to do.

589
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:30,840
There is a whole section here on greenhouse gas, that's anything.

590
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:37,720
I mean, I think we have a lot to work with because we have that previous letter. I guess what I'm

591
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:44,100
wrestling with though is like the next thing I'd have to wrap my head around is how much has changed

592
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:50,200
and how and how does that then change what we want to say? Well, the nice thing is that this is just

593
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:56,780
that you're just telling them the stuff you want them to look at differently or better or however. So

594
00:55:56,780 --> 00:56:01,060
I don't think you have to wrap your head around too much. Okay. So anything that wasn't buttoned up there

595
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:02,540
there's probably still fair game.

596
00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:09,150
Well, it might not be that heavy a lift, then,

597
00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:12,450
if we before kind of just retooling the letter

598
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:13,550
that we've already got.

599
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:17,390
Yeah, and effectively the same deal is, right?

600
00:56:17,590 --> 00:56:19,430
Like make it a little more concise, a little more

601
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:19,810
pragmatic.

602
00:56:20,650 --> 00:56:22,950
Like these are these are the issues that we caught

603
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:25,430
in the previous one and need more study

604
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:26,250
in the next one.

605
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:30,310
You're saying you would have the bandwidth to do that letter

606
00:56:30,310 --> 00:56:39,840
in a subcommittee format, or you think, or for your pet project there, and I don't

607
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,280
don't push.

608
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,980
Yeah, so the thing is probably the most of this work I'm going to end up doing in the

609
00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:50,500
Friday before Labor Day, which doesn't leave me a lot of time on a subcommittee, but.

610
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,860
No, I mean, if you want to make a subcommittee that's, I would join you with that if you

611
00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:03,880
and I'd stay on the other one that I said I would do too. So if you wanted to do that that way.

612
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,800
Either it's fine. Is there anyone else that would like to join?

613
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,040
I suppose I could do that one too. If it'll help.

614
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,160
And both of these would be, we'd be able to do it remote

615
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,240
Right, is it not did they just be ad hoc?

616
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:24,020
Yeah.

617
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:24,660
Okay.

618
00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:28,120
Can we have consolidated comments from the last EIR?

619
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:29,980
That you can from the quarry?

620
00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:32,280
They were provided to you.

621
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,100
Oh, yes.

622
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,720
That's right.

623
00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:34,240
I'm sorry.

624
00:57:36,980 --> 00:57:39,280
So definitely use that reference document.

625
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,380
Okay.

626
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:45,320
So I'm hearing subcommittee of.

627
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,620
I can help on the quarry.

628
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:47,880
I can do it for help you.

629
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:48,980
We'll try.

630
00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:50,140
Maximum of three.

631
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,980
So you guys decide who's.

632
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,920
who's your three but wait wait I think I need to get off of them actually if I know

633
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:03,060
because I've got to do the DSO this this weekend so that I would do the

634
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:08,060
quarry the next weekend so I think by that time it's so close to the deadline

635
00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:14,060
that there's not time to do some committee work because Monday's a holiday and

636
00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:20,040
then Tuesday the comments are due I will say you do not need staff you can you can

637
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:26,380
I mean, as your ad hoc subcommittees on these letters without and then submit them without

638
00:58:26,380 --> 00:58:26,980
staff.

639
00:58:27,260 --> 00:58:34,740
I mean, I think in the recent past we've just had, I mean, Anthony was on the subcommittee

640
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:36,240
and is the chair of OSEC.

641
00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:42,180
But yeah, that he submitted the letter on OSEC's behalf.

642
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:47,440
If he's not on the subcommittee, whoever is the kind of point person on the subcommittee

643
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:53,860
would be the one submitting so that we don't add another person and have a brown act violation

644
00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:58,400
by having a fourth person involved outside of your public meetings.

645
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,800
You have the same understanding that we would it would be nice to tell the whole committee here

646
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,620
but if not the subcommittee. For this one we know for sure there is there is not time to come back

647
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:15,560
because your comment deadline for the NOP for the NOP only is September 8th.

648
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:23,180
So it will, the subcommittee would be designated to meet as an ad hoc. Without staff, so you can plan

649
00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:33,560
evenings weekends, whatever works for you guys to meet or just via email, put your letter together.

650
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,720
Google Doc or something like that start passing it around. As long as it stays within just your subcommittee.

651
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,720
I believe you have the ability to.

652
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:55,210
Sounds like I'm nominating. We set up subcommittee and we submit and then people can submit their own private letters.

653
00:59:55,530 --> 00:59:59,650
If you're not on the subcommittee and you wish to weigh in on the NOP, you should do so.

654
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:25,480
Individual. And, you know, when we get to the actual draft EIR, then, you know, we'll presumably have more time to review and the draft EIR, I don't know what the timeline is on the draft EIR. I'm sorry. I don't know if they had been the estimate of that.

655
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:40,280
So, are you making a motion that we set up a subcommittee to provide OSEC input to the notice of preparation for the recirculated draft EIR?

656
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:41,220
Second.

657
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:42,860
Okay.

658
01:00:45,790 --> 01:00:46,150
Right.

659
01:00:47,050 --> 01:00:47,050
So,

660
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:53,110
I think we know you're answered but better.

661
01:00:53,790 --> 01:00:53,810
Aye.

662
01:00:54,650 --> 01:00:55,010
All right.

663
01:00:55,230 --> 01:00:55,510
Cardi.

664
01:00:56,650 --> 01:00:57,010
Aye.

665
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:00,820
Let's see.

666
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:01,700
Saman.

667
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:02,340
Aye.

668
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:04,060
All righty.

669
01:01:05,420 --> 01:01:12,840
And then we've got Newton, and I'm also an I.

670
01:01:14,020 --> 01:01:18,220
And can we clarify who the subcommittee members are?

671
01:01:18,220 --> 01:01:21,480
I think that got a little stumbled in there.

672
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,140
We didn't settle.

673
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,500
It could be this review or two of you and one of me.

674
01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:27,280
I'm fine with either.

675
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:28,640
I'm going to submit either way.

676
01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:30,080
How many of you are there?

677
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,240
I think I have Mary, Jason, Anthony.

678
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,960
I was going to help with JJ and Mary, maybe it was going to help with it.

679
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,320
Okay.

680
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:47,220
Okay.

681
01:01:47,740 --> 01:01:51,280
So we'll have Thacker Walker and Rogers.

682
01:01:52,940 --> 01:01:53,180
Okay.

683
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,740
Michelle, you've been quiet.

684
01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:58,680
Because I don't want to commit right now.

685
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,660
and be coming from, you know,

686
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,860
not every place in surgery and it's really,

687
01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:06,980
you know,

688
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,620
call me an aspect question if you like,

689
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,340
and I'll try not to.

690
01:02:10,340 --> 01:02:11,560
No, don't do that, Michelle.

691
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,380
Don't do that.

692
01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:12,500
Right.

693
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:13,180
Don't do that.

694
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,160
Okay.

695
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,640
Sorry.

696
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,840
You're either on the subcommittee or you're not.

697
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:20,820
Either way is fine.

698
01:02:20,940 --> 01:02:22,700
I just wanted to make sure you had your opportunity.

699
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Thank you.

700
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:25,540
I'm sorry.

701
01:02:25,780 --> 01:02:27,660
It's a small project.

702
01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:32,040
Okay. Yeah. Okay. We have a plan.

703
01:02:32,260 --> 01:02:34,680
All right. Good stuff. All right.

704
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:35,940
Actually, I have a question.

705
01:02:36,660 --> 01:02:40,260
I submitted a public letter and my sister, who's a hydro.

706
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,300
What is she?

707
01:02:42,340 --> 01:02:43,720
I just know.

708
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,120
Geochem is a hydrologist and environmental planning manager.

709
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,900
She submitted comments attached to my personal letter.

710
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:54,900
Can we include those?

711
01:02:57,460 --> 01:02:59,280
I mean, the stuff that she suggested.

712
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:06,620
Can we say, oh, yeah, there's no, I mean, there's no reason limited to our initial comments.

713
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,480
No, you're asking them to study something if there's something else that has come up,

714
01:03:12,020 --> 01:03:17,340
you know, especially if it's in the public record, but you could recommend study of, I mean,

715
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:21,400
I don't know if I can guarantee that everything you recommend gets actually studied,

716
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,660
but absolutely can make sure.

717
01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:27,920
Make a recommendation based on other people's comments.

718
01:03:29,660 --> 01:03:30,100
So,

719
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:37,200
can we get her to forward that to us then the point is that the right public document?

720
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:39,500
That's that's right.

721
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,480
I think as you can send you a website, which I think makes it okay.

722
01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:44,080
Yeah.

723
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,540
Yeah, I mean, if whoever's on the subcommittee, you can send whatever you need to within the subcommittee.

724
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:51,980
Like, as long as it's just within the subcommittee.

725
01:03:52,580 --> 01:03:55,800
Didn't we just say that you're not on the subcommittee though, Aaron?

726
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,940
Oh, I am on the subcommittee.

727
01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:59,060
Oh, it's Mary, you and I.

728
01:03:59,980 --> 01:04:01,260
Oh, and not, okay.

729
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Okay, Jason's Jason's on Baylands, not on court.

730
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,200
I'm very confused.

731
01:04:07,580 --> 01:04:08,360
We've got it straight.

732
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,880
We've got it straight.

733
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,440
You were both on first.

734
01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:16,440
Okay, ready to move on.

735
01:04:16,780 --> 01:04:17,860
Yes, let's move on.

736
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,660
Okay, step up dates.

737
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,080
Do you want to go first, Dolores?

738
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:21,920
Sure.

739
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,920
So we had our annual reporting to the state for our benchmarking.

740
01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:32,440
We are currently at 97% compliance, which is really great news.

741
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,840
We just have four outstanding buildings, which we hope to get wrapped up by the next reporting deadline, which is in November.

742
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,300
There is another complex giveaway tomorrow that's been posted in the blast, and it will be online.

743
01:04:47,780 --> 01:04:49,120
So look out for that.

744
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:59,540
Lastly, and maybe I should wait for the events up committee, but it relates to zero waste day in the park updates.

745
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,520
I'll wait until this up committee goes for that one.

746
01:05:02,980 --> 01:05:04,160
Okay, I just have a couple.

747
01:05:05,140 --> 01:05:16,800
So the cities got an RFP out for dark sky ordinance compliance plan on city facilities.

748
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:25,560
So response deadline is, I believe September 4th is what I put on that, so hopefully we'll

749
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:36,400
have some good proposals to help us confirm the plan and priorities to get all of our city

750
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:45,340
buildings and streetlights into compliance. I am also working on RFP for EV charging at the

751
01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:52,000
operation yard for our fleet and rip in replace at the Brisbane Village

752
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,040
fast charger over there. Following those two, we'll be moving on to the

753
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:05,480
three management RFP. So lots of big RFPs on my to-do list. And then

754
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,960
following up on a couple of requests from last month, there was one question

755
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,020
about the frog habitat. Unfortunately, I don't have much

756
01:06:14,020 --> 01:06:18,760
to report. So what I heard was that the city sent a proposed plan

757
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,740
to the property owner a few months ago and has yet to hear back.

758
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,640
But Council Member Lens is following up. And then there was also a

759
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,520
question about the invasive species letters to nurseries.

760
01:06:31,660 --> 01:06:38,020
It looks like it was April 2024 when we last sent those. We had been doing them

761
01:06:38,020 --> 01:06:45,000
other year in the spring. We did miss this spring due to some of that staffing shuffle. So

762
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:50,740
the question I think to the committee is do you want us to go ahead and work on sending those out?

763
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:59,740
Now with the, they'll be kind of timing for nurseries in the fall, or would you prefer to wait

764
01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:03,780
until kind of that early spring timeline in 2021? Sure.

765
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:16,540
And Shana said they actually put their orders in way before spring, so it doesn't make sense, I think, to, to not wait until spring, but I'm not exactly sure when the right time is.

766
01:07:18,260 --> 01:07:25,740
So, usually a season ahead, and then also though if you're planting like woody perennials, that's usually what you do during the fall and winter.

767
01:07:26,060 --> 01:07:28,860
So sometimes waiting till spring is not always,

768
01:07:28,860 --> 01:07:29,960
Okay, a lot.

769
01:07:30,980 --> 01:08:01,870
So I would say as soon as you have some bandwidth after all those awesome RFPs you just presented on. And also, I feel like maybe maybe not, it's worth mentioning to the city somehow that this, I mean, the citizens that the city is also, you know, putting the effort to be dark skies compliant, right? Like it feels really like, hey, we have to do work too.

770
01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:11,390
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We actually had that discussion come up this morning. So obviously have something in a blast or something soon.

771
01:08:13,870 --> 01:08:27,310
So we have, I believe we still have an ad hoc invasive species subcommittee. So I think with regard to the letters will just dig up the prior letter, the prior list of nurseries.

772
01:08:27,310 --> 01:08:56,910
We might want some help from the subcommittee in vetting, but you know, if we get that process started now, I know you guys have a lot on your plates and so do we so I think not the most urgent priority if we go ahead and kind of get it started now and have some time is, you know, not a huge lift, but we can kind of get that process started to get those out and then just a quick FYI I will be out.

773
01:08:57,310 --> 01:09:09,310
briefly again in September, but I expect this to be a short duration. So just patience with me as I continue to try to get caught up on all the things.

774
01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:12,410
I see the question. Yep.

775
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:19,610
We usually send out a letter annually about purchasing acres properties.

776
01:09:21,270 --> 01:09:23,850
Do we have any plans to do that?

777
01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:29,010
You know, that is actually I think it was taken,

778
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:31,470
um, I

779
01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:39,950
Want to say city manager may have done that the last time around so I'll have to check on what when that was done and

780
01:09:39,950 --> 01:09:42,550
When the kind of next round

781
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:45,910
I'm going to go out so I sign the letter so it's been over here

782
01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:52,810
Okay, I will check in with them make a check in with them about one will do that again

783
01:09:52,810 --> 01:09:55,550
Okay. Thank you.

784
01:10:02,430 --> 01:10:09,250
That's I think all we had. Okay, great. Thank you for that. So on the subcommittees,

785
01:10:09,670 --> 01:10:14,370
do we have any reports from anybody and any stuff that he's meeting and do stuff?

786
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:21,410
Events? I'm looking forward to the Laura's comment on the zero waste at the day in the park.

787
01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:35,510
Yes, well, after your guys' meeting, I went ahead and created a graphic for the vendors kind of promoting zero waste with food and craft vendors at day in the park.

788
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:43,870
So we're doing a full push. It's now, I believe it's now live. The Parks and Rec day in the park page, if not, should be shortly.

789
01:10:43,870 --> 01:10:52,250
Um, and Adrian and I are working with Caroline to get some, um, water bottles and reusable

790
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:57,590
mugs and things like that on to Betsy, cool, so that'll be fun for, for day and the

791
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:58,210
park.

792
01:11:00,740 --> 01:11:06,060
Do one of the subcommittee members want to talk about the broader plan for Osex Booth at

793
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:07,360
day and the parker?

794
01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:12,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we thought we would leave that part to you guys.

795
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:21,860
Well, we're talking about, you know, having South San Francisco scavengers, Osec, and Mountain

796
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:28,820
Lodge, kind of in a row, like we have in the past. And we met the Theresa Montgomery, and we're

797
01:11:28,820 --> 01:11:32,960
all excited about the possibility of like having a, well, we're going to have a garbage sorting

798
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:42,340
area. So people can come and learn how to actually recycle and we're hoping to make it kind of

799
01:11:42,340 --> 01:11:49,460
they have two big raccoon costumes that they may have. Some people run around in. But in the

800
01:11:49,460 --> 01:11:57,120
mean while you guys I didn't really talk to you about this except to Mary. I had this idea and

801
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:08,320
he hasn't arrived yet but I ordered a vintage raccoon puppet and there's several on eBay and I think

802
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,100
that we should all wear raccoon puppets and have trash talk with the raccades.

803
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,300
So I'm I'm

804
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:24,140
I'll be there with my puppet. So I just think I'd be really fun and eBay has a lot of them and

805
01:12:24,140 --> 01:12:28,520
there's even went from date and in company and you know they're all vintage and I just think it'd be

806
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:38,980
really have a lot of fun at our base. So that's yeah yeah we also we also talked about moving the

807
01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:49,200
booth so that the south city scavenger would kind of be the last booth closest to the food trucks

808
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:56,220
and have tote bins there. So we move away from the trash police language thank you and it's

809
01:12:56,220 --> 01:13:04,140
now trash talkers and in a slight recoon theme because that matches their their their wording.

810
01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:15,300
We also talked about putting signs up at each food truck vendor, with the types of packaging

811
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:18,320
that they have, and which bin it goes into.

812
01:13:18,940 --> 01:13:24,240
So really helping people, you know, this thing says it's a combustible fork, it still goes

813
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,700
in the trash.

814
01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:30,740
This thing looks like paper, but it's got a plastic line or it still goes in the trash.

815
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:36,480
Oh look, this aluminum can, it really does go in the recycling, so just a helpful signage.

816
01:13:36,940 --> 01:13:48,520
It's going to require some effort on us. It's set up, but that's really smart to use their materials and kind of pre-create almost like a guide diagram they can do.

817
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:49,740
I like that a lot.

818
01:13:49,740 --> 01:13:54,620
Yeah. So if I get a couple extra rackets, we'll people use them.

819
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,340
Just asking.

820
01:13:59,550 --> 01:13:59,670
Sure.

821
01:14:01,030 --> 01:14:01,590
Okay.

822
01:14:02,750 --> 01:14:05,570
Yeah. Sounds like one.

823
01:14:09,290 --> 01:14:10,570
I'm going to have fun.

824
01:14:15,850 --> 01:14:19,370
What day is day in the park? Is it Sunday October 3rd?

825
01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:21,630
It's only the first Saturday of October.

826
01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:24,550
I think it's the third.

827
01:14:24,890 --> 01:14:27,890
is the very, yes, Saturn X over there.

828
01:14:30,510 --> 01:14:32,730
And hopefully I'll be mobile by then.

829
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,420
And once we get a little bit more of the plan fleshed out,

830
01:14:41,620 --> 01:14:46,280
will be sending out something to sign up for shifts.

831
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,600
Hopefully everybody can take a turn helping out at the booth.

832
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,140
I think we'll probably also be working with

833
01:14:58,140 --> 01:14:59,040
There's been cares.

834
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,220
To try to recruit additional trash talker volunteers.

835
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:05,920
Excellent.

836
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:11,020
Great.

837
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,620
Do we have any, any other reports?

838
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:16,340
Out of.

839
01:15:17,380 --> 01:15:18,140
Oh, go ahead, Michelle.

840
01:15:18,940 --> 01:15:20,440
That's the Mary. Talk about trees.

841
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,120
Oh, oh.

842
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,180
Three issues.

843
01:15:25,740 --> 01:15:27,480
So the committee met.

844
01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:37,140
Keegan has provided a comprehensive list of the type of trees we may want to consider for

845
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:44,020
planting on city sites, as well as possible residential sites.

846
01:15:44,860 --> 01:15:49,760
So I think our next meeting will probably dive into that detail, but it was a pretty good

847
01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:57,900
And there's a lot of different, you know, there's a lot of different characteristics such

848
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:05,800
as are they native, are they drought resistant, are they utility friendly, et cetera, et cetera.

849
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,080
So a lot of that data was provided as well, it's a pretty good list.

850
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:17,600
So I don't know when the next meeting is, but we will provide our comments at that point.

851
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,220
I thought there was already a list.

852
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,800
I thought that OSEC, previous OSEC tree committee,

853
01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:27,320
made a list of good trees to plant.

854
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,240
And it might have been before Shana,

855
01:16:30,460 --> 01:16:32,380
and she might have put input on it.

856
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:34,860
I know that Barbara had something to do with it.

857
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,580
Does that list exist anywhere?

858
01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:40,500
I believe Keegan had that list.

859
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,640
Did they get cross checked?

860
01:16:48,300 --> 01:17:03,600
So he took list from San Francisco, because they have a lot of trees that we would, that would be good for Bruce Dane, South San Francisco, and then the comprehensive list that I think.

861
01:17:03,620 --> 01:17:05,960
Oh, we already provided that we already had.

862
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,020
And so he combined all of those.

863
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:12,200
Did he add things to it or did we only subtract from it?

864
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:16,520
Yeah, because there is like four different tabs in this file.

865
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,020
So there's a lot more to choose from.

866
01:17:20,620 --> 01:17:25,500
Yeah, because he even has the width of city sidewalk.

867
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,840
How much can this tree be planted with X number of feet?

868
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:33,900
So we have that and that was not provided before.

869
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:38,900
There's a lot more data in this list that Kagan pulled together.

870
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,020
There's no nice way to say this, this is a not invented, you're fallacy, but it feels

871
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:55,140
like someone not on OSEC possibly just added a bunch of trees to the list that OSEC had.

872
01:17:55,940 --> 01:18:00,920
And so I just want to make sure that someone is kind of thinking about that and doing that

873
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:08,720
check, you know, did he just add a tree that he didn't know is actually not fit for Brisbane?

874
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,260
but it's fit to be a city tree in some other city in California.

875
01:18:14,140 --> 01:18:16,880
I will say in case folks here didn't know,

876
01:18:17,020 --> 01:18:18,940
Tegan has received his Arborist certification.

877
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,360
Oh, that helps.

878
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:24,040
He does know a bit about it.

879
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:38,700
And then I think also the intention was for the list to kind of be reviewed by OSEC and for the subcommittee to be able to provide comment on whether there are any trees on that list that

880
01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:44,760
But we don't want to see on that list or if there's something that we feel is missing

881
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,240
that we'd like added.

882
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:46,700
Perfect.

883
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:52,160
I just, I misunderstood, but I just heard a ballooning list and was worried about what was

884
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:52,560
making it.

885
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:59,200
No, I think I think really it was, he was trying to keep, there's, we discussed in the subcommittee

886
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:05,340
meeting, there's ultimately going to be two lists, there's going to be a straight

887
01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:12,980
list. And there's going to be a separate, like, OSEC tree list that we can recommend for private

888
01:19:12,980 --> 01:19:20,020
properties. Awesome. Okay. So that we, we kind of, the list of trees that's suitable for street

889
01:19:20,020 --> 01:19:25,320
trees is a much smaller subset than what might be recommended on a private property.

890
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:35,320
Thank you. And I also had taken the data before it was consolidated by Kigan. I took the

891
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:42,300
and I took San Francisco's list, and I was able to cross-check.

892
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,140
So yeah, thank you.

893
01:19:46,540 --> 01:19:53,540
Now we're trying to get a really broad-based comprehensive list to be able to respond to a variety of

894
01:19:53,540 --> 01:19:56,160
microhabitats and needs.

895
01:19:57,100 --> 01:20:01,740
And so we don't want to be limited to only these or only that.

896
01:20:01,740 --> 01:20:07,340
but we want to be able to recommend the right tree for the right spot for the right timeline.

897
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,680
And it's pretty comprehensive because we have a lot of microquimates in Brisbane.

898
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:18,580
And the work that Keegan did, the groundwork that Keegan did, and that Mary had did is amazing.

899
01:20:19,500 --> 01:20:23,820
And then Mary and I are going to be spending some time really going over that list and

900
01:20:24,500 --> 01:20:29,660
and prospecting in about, you know, things we might know about a certain tree or that type of thing.

901
01:20:29,660 --> 01:20:35,480
Excellent. Thank you. Yeah. I feel good about it.

902
01:20:38,710 --> 01:20:42,410
Great. Okay. I just wanted to say the next

903
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:50,030
library display is going to be an October. So maybe we can meet the next one sometime

904
01:20:50,030 --> 01:21:02,710
else and not an email. Sounds good. Okay, thanks. Okay. In that case, do we want to do any kind of

905
01:21:02,710 --> 01:21:08,690
going to note that dark skies is meeting next week, I think Erin had mentioned that earlier

906
01:21:08,690 --> 01:21:14,610
and then Mary, did you have any updates? I think the beautification committee met.

907
01:21:15,150 --> 01:21:23,270
So I don't say something other. The beautification committee met last week, I think on the 20th.

908
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:33,430
And staff presented some information on a pilot program for adopt a spot.

909
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:44,950
So the adopt spot is will be consisted of around three to five different locations within the city.

910
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:52,610
and would require three to five, excuse me, around five to seven volunteers, the logistics

911
01:21:52,610 --> 01:21:58,230
behind the process are still being worked out. I think what will end up happening is the

912
01:21:58,230 --> 01:22:02,490
stake of Jeremy was saying we just got to do it, right, and just put a stake in the ground

913
01:22:02,490 --> 01:22:11,430
and try and fine tune it as we go. But I can tell you that the committee reviewed the list

914
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:18,630
of site locations, which includes Cory Road Trailhead, so but right by the community garden,

915
01:22:18,850 --> 01:22:24,250
which a lot of plants were planted as part of the Cory cleanup.

916
01:22:26,250 --> 01:22:29,870
Lassen street steps and apparently it's called.

917
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:44,840
They're really called the bicentennial street steps. And I'm not sure if I have the location correct on that, but is that up on Klamath and as you walk down the stairs to Solano.

918
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:54,080
So originally last and was from the corner of Solano and Mendocino all the way up through Sierra Point and up to.

919
01:22:54,080 --> 01:23:15,240
Okay. Okay. So now the lower part is the bicentennial walkway from Solano and Mendocino up to the corner of Sierra Point and Clameth. And then it's my understanding that the from Sierra Point up to Humboldt is still considered last and but I'm not sure. Okay.

920
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:25,020
So, that's an area that people can sign up for, then there's the Alvarado to San

921
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:32,180
Baneta, the New Spheres, which needs some regular maintenance.

922
01:23:32,860 --> 01:23:36,020
First park was called out, a certain part of the first park.

923
01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:43,900
And then there's the park behind the old community center by the old library, that's up

924
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:49,700
and then last is the Brisbane Freshman's Park along Lagoon Road.

925
01:23:51,640 --> 01:24:02,640
So they are going to pull together some communication and some forms that folks will have to complete

926
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,920
to get this project going.

927
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:14,940
Did they consider the stretch of staircases from, oh my goodness, from Clameth up to Alvarado?

928
01:24:15,500 --> 01:24:20,880
You know, there's the ones that kind of curve a little bit when you hit the new artist walkway.

929
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:26,140
Those on the either side, one is like semi-landscaped by residents.

930
01:24:26,580 --> 01:24:32,080
But on the other side, the city will come through maybe twice a year in Weedwack,

931
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:43,740
But it's it's ugly. I personally have tried to plant roses there to make it look a little pretty, but if they're, if that was added to the list, that also is an area.

932
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:59,980
Yeah, so part of the communication process will be asking folks, do you want to, do you have a spot you would like to adopt there we go need to go through city approval, because they're trying to keep the areas small and manageable.

933
01:25:01,420 --> 01:25:09,760
And not, I had suggested, you know, around the skate park, that whole corner there.

934
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,120
But it's too big to handle for, you know, five volunteers.

935
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,000
So the city needs to manage that.

936
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,560
But they're trying to keep the spots small.

937
01:25:22,300 --> 01:25:25,260
So if you think it's small, I would say.

938
01:25:25,660 --> 01:25:26,520
Yeah, I would read that.

939
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,360
I think it's ideal.

940
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:37,840
I would say it's smaller than the artist walkway stretch, but yeah, but yeah, maybe if that list is available in put I can toss that in.

941
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:44,760
Yeah, but a lot of ideas and just we just have to get the project off the ground and get it going.

942
01:25:49,580 --> 01:25:50,420
Can I can I.

943
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,920
To our horn about the Corey cleanup.

944
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,480
Yeah, right, that was a big deal.

945
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:04,080
And so we had a lot of folks, I think we had around 35, 40 folks around there maybe.

946
01:26:04,940 --> 01:26:09,660
Yeah, a lot of families, a lot of plants in at the beginning of Cory Road.

947
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,180
A lot of native plants, there's a lot of kids.

948
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:18,660
And there's probably around 12 to 14 adults that took on removing IV from the trees.

949
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:28,040
So we, at the end of the day, I think we had around 27 tarps that were filled with ivy and leaves and such and weeds.

950
01:26:29,420 --> 01:26:30,460
Since then,

951
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:38,660
I worked with Tony and we worked on some of the trees we're going to get all the ivy off of.

952
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:45,040
And so we filled up another seven tarps and I got 10 more and we already have four full.

953
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:51,840
So, we have two or three trees that are completely IV-free, which, and they look beautiful.

954
01:26:53,380 --> 01:27:02,000
So, we work on it a little bit now, and then I'll go down, you know, SNAP SNAP and Tony's picking up the stuff as well.

955
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:04,380
So, that looks pretty good.

956
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:15,020
You know, if there's a time, you know, a little bit in advance, but you're going to go do some IV removal on trees.

957
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:26,860
we should see if we can coordinate with our communications video staff to create, we talked about

958
01:27:26,860 --> 01:27:35,400
with the Theresa of Committee creating a video of how to, which I don't know if we mentioned that

959
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:44,060
aspect, but we've got some work happening with kind of launching that fine management volunteer

960
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,760
or work or app that Bob created in the tree hub.

961
01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:57,980
Yes, I'm glad you said that because Tony, he goes, Mary, we need to come out here like,

962
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,720
we need to round 10 people once a month to get through all of this, you know, by the time

963
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,860
you're done, you're starting to roll over again, right?

964
01:28:05,380 --> 01:28:08,700
So I said, let me bring it up at the OSEC meeting.

965
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:15,430
So yes, if we could, I could schedule a Saturday morning or something and

966
01:28:15,980 --> 01:28:19,960
I don't know. I'm talking about scheduling a time where we can make the video.

967
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,420
Oh, the video. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we would probably not want it to be on a Saturday

968
01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:28,440
because communication staff would probably prefer not to come into work on a

969
01:28:28,440 --> 01:28:34,500
do that. If there's a time where you're going to be or could be going out during the

970
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:41,760
When we can try to line that up so we can do a little video of here's how you do it with

971
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:49,640
you or Tony or whoever else wants to be the person in the video demonstrating, we can try to

972
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:57,540
line that up because we did talk about wanting to have a quick video that we can include with that.

973
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,820
And then once we have those materials, we can do a big push.

974
01:29:02,820 --> 01:29:08,680
I think we were planning to do a big push in the October star.

975
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:19,840
I think Michelle, I sent you the Vine article that we did in the star maybe four years ago.

976
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,300
I think it was or something like that.

977
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:26,820
If we wanted to revise that and then be able to kind of

978
01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:36,380
want that volunteer opportunity that's kind of an independent volunteer opportunity, but Molly runs the Brisbane CARES program.

979
01:29:36,660 --> 01:29:44,960
So we can send it out to that listserv and then have it go out in the blast in the star, whatever.

980
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:46,680
Okay.

981
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:51,300
I might have missed, I think I saw that go by, but I've been a little distracted, so I'll get it all get it right.

982
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:59,980
I understand if it doesn't work out timing wise, I know the next couple of weeks we've got a bit of a crunch so we can push it back.

983
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,680
But I want to say is Caroline's deadline for the star of the 10th now?

984
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,900
Yeah. So September 10th for October star? Yeah. Okay.

985
01:30:14,130 --> 01:30:18,070
So if we, and we don't have to have the video, the video obviously won't go in the star.

986
01:30:18,250 --> 01:30:25,030
So we don't have to have the video ready on that same timeframe. But if we can have the other pieces ready, we could have it in the October star.

987
01:30:25,530 --> 01:30:28,930
But if it slips a month, it's not the end of the world.

988
01:30:29,490 --> 01:30:33,510
Now, but it'd be good to have it sooner rather than later, so people can start.

989
01:30:34,230 --> 01:30:34,610
Yeah, absolutely.

990
01:30:34,750 --> 01:30:38,750
We need it in November, because that's when we do that clean up day.

991
01:30:41,230 --> 01:30:41,430
Okay.

992
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:43,830
All right.

993
01:30:44,730 --> 01:30:48,070
Sorry, the deadline is the 7th of each.

994
01:30:48,850 --> 01:30:50,390
7th of the 10th.

995
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:50,630
Okay.

996
01:30:56,180 --> 01:30:56,300
All right.

997
01:30:56,660 --> 01:31:00,680
I think that was the end of subcommittees, unless anybody had anything else.

998
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,500
We don't need to do any reshuffling or anything.

999
01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:06,580
I think we've already done the reshuffling needed

1000
01:31:06,580 --> 01:31:09,500
for the items in progress today.

1001
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:10,960
So I think we're good.

1002
01:31:12,860 --> 01:31:14,140
So onto Caler and Drydoms,

1003
01:31:18,690 --> 01:31:19,710
then anything specific

1004
01:31:19,710 --> 01:31:20,950
that anybody wants to call out?

1005
01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:22,410
Thanks for calling out the Coastal Cleanup

1006
01:31:22,410 --> 01:31:23,950
earlier in the show.

1007
01:31:24,490 --> 01:31:27,810
We had it in here under Calender items as well.

1008
01:31:27,970 --> 01:31:30,270
So that's on the 19th of September.

1009
01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:42,450
and then day in the park on October 3rd, compost give away tomorrow and we'll have another

1010
01:31:42,450 --> 01:31:51,610
again before the end of the year. We are planning to have a more comprehensive report on building

1011
01:31:51,610 --> 01:31:56,510
efficiency program in the next couple of months. Dolores and I are going to be working with Bob

1012
01:31:56,510 --> 01:32:04,170
stage or GIS manager to get some of the data from the last couple of years that hasn't

1013
01:32:04,170 --> 01:32:11,250
made it onto the public transparency map up so we'll probably come share that with you guys

1014
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:21,990
once we have it ready. And then I am hearing that there is a push to try to get work plans

1015
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:29,590
drafted before the end of the year so that they can be going to council early in the calendar year.

1016
01:32:31,410 --> 01:32:37,150
I think in the past it's kind of slipped into a couple months into the year so we are

1017
01:32:37,150 --> 01:32:43,990
proposing that when we have a November December combo meeting that we usually do that we'll talk

1018
01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:51,430
about work plan then. It's probably a little too early but we will probably start next month

1019
01:32:51,990 --> 01:33:00,130
to talk to everybody about schedules for those holiday meetings, and I don't know if you've

1020
01:33:00,130 --> 01:33:05,530
noticed, but I know everybody else has been through this before our meetings being on the

1021
01:33:05,530 --> 01:33:11,310
fourth Wednesday of the month, or not great timing with Thanksgiving and Christmas typically,

1022
01:33:11,550 --> 01:33:17,610
so in the past we have generally canceled our regular meetings for November and December and

1023
01:33:17,610 --> 01:33:21,730
found one date to do during the holiday months.

1024
01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:26,710
So we'll try to look at schedules maybe next month, Jason.

1025
01:33:27,190 --> 01:33:30,610
I know we Michelle mentioned a little bit.

1026
01:33:30,730 --> 01:33:33,230
I go about the letters to the landowners

1027
01:33:33,230 --> 01:33:34,050
and the norm.

1028
01:33:34,610 --> 01:33:35,750
That used to be on here.

1029
01:33:35,850 --> 01:33:38,810
Could we put it back just so we can watch it and not forget.

1030
01:33:39,170 --> 01:33:40,870
Even if we put it in the wrong month,

1031
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:45,070
I thought it was September, but if we just set it back in there,

1032
01:33:45,070 --> 01:33:51,110
just so we could stare at it and see it go by or not go by, you know, because if Michelle thinks

1033
01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:58,890
it's been more than a year than maybe it has been more than a year. Yeah. So thank you, Jason.

1034
01:33:58,890 --> 01:34:07,130
I think that's a great idea. And can we, for next meeting, start the next year's, like,

1035
01:34:07,950 --> 01:34:13,710
but start putting the dates in for next year's and getting them in here. Sure. Okay.

1036
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:16,740
Okay.

1037
01:34:17,020 --> 01:34:17,660
great.

1038
01:34:19,980 --> 01:34:25,440
So chair and committee member matters. I did want to bring up one thing. The

1039
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:33,320
Peninsula and South Bay Greenhouse tours happening again in October. That's not an us thing,

1040
01:34:34,460 --> 01:34:42,460
but it's an annual, you know, electrified home tour that Aktera puts on. So that's Saturday,

1041
01:34:42,460 --> 01:34:48,980
October 10th, so if there are any folks locally that are interested in learning more about

1042
01:34:48,980 --> 01:34:56,360
electrification, any folks that have a fully or partially electrified home, you can sign up for

1043
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:12,440
the tour and become a host. They're always trying to get clusters. I think the last time that we

1044
01:35:12,440 --> 01:35:16,980
books that come all the way up this far, this far up the peninsula, for just two homes.

1045
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:20,220
So they're always looking for more folks.

1046
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:25,960
So if there is anybody that's interested, Aktera hosts that every year in October.

1047
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:38,480
Do you, can you send me that info and I can see if we can put that in a blast next week or something?

1048
01:35:38,940 --> 01:35:39,080
Absolutely.

1049
01:35:39,700 --> 01:35:40,260
I'll send that along.

1050
01:35:40,980 --> 01:35:43,100
I do have one question.

1051
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,380
We're still a member down.

1052
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:51,120
Any update on filling that slot?

1053
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,600
You know Michelle, I thought about it about half an hour before our meeting

1054
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:00,520
and sent a note to Ingrid, but she was probably already gone for the day

1055
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,800
when it was after 6pm when I sent her an email.

1056
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:09,280
So I don't have an update right now, but I will hopefully get one.

1057
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,620
Tomorrow morning.

1058
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:19,200
Well, sooner is better because obviously we have a full agenda. Yeah, yeah,

1059
01:36:25,220 --> 01:36:25,740
all righty.

1060
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:30,700
Hey, Adrian, we're really glad you're back. Thanks a lot.

1061
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,780
And Dolores, you did a fantastic job holding everything together.

1062
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:44,160
Alrighty, so our next meeting is September 23rd. Thank you, everybody. And I have a lovely evening.

1063
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:45,260
This meeting is a dream.