1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,400 This is the 24hour the same day or 24-hour comment I made to you. 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,559 » I can't log in now. 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:27,279 » Good Kate. >> All right, we're back. We're in public 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:30,400 session. Uh, 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,719 Steve, will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? 6 00:00:31,119 --> 00:00:36,000 » Oh, that's awesome. 7 00:00:34,559 --> 00:00:40,719 I haven't done this in >> Oh, you didn't bring the 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:47,120 » All right. Uh, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:55,399 and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 10 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:55,399 liberty and justice for all. 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,559 Um, they sent me a whole flag and a pole. 12 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:05,680 They didn't send they didn't send the pieces. I ordered I ordered the the or 13 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,920 tried to order the spread of things to actually spread the flag out and have it 14 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:09,680 look. >> Yeah. 15 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:13,920 » Yeah. >> That is too funny. 16 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:18,479 » Anyway, >> all right. Uh, is there a motion for the 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,759 non-public and public meeting minutes of Yes. 18 00:01:19,119 --> 00:01:27,200 » Do not do August 13th. So, can I'll just explain really quick. Um, your August 19 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:32,159 13th meeting video did not have any sound. I made a mistake. So, I have to 20 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:36,479 recreate it from scratch. I just haven't been able to finish it. So, I will have 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:40,159 August 13th at the next meeting. >> So, we want to approve the 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,600 » just the 20th. >> Just the 20th. All right. 23 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:49,479 » Public the non-public and public meeting minutes for August 20th, 2026. 24 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:49,479 » Sorry, 25 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,799 » I'm having technical difficulties. There you go. Go ahead. 26 00:01:52,799 --> 00:02:00,000 » Okay. I make a motion to approve the non-public and public meeting minutes 27 00:01:56,399 --> 00:02:05,759 for August 20th, 2026. And do I want to do the ceiling of uh 28 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:10,000 second? Um is there a second? >> Second. 29 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:14,959 » Second by Scott. Uh any questions or comments on those minutes? Hearing none. 30 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:18,879 All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Those opposed, abstensions, that's 4 31 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:24,800 Z. >> Okay. I want to uh uh make a motion to 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,520 seal the non-public meeting that it's August 20th, 2026 33 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,319 uh because determined the developments of this information likely would affect 34 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,760 adversely the reputation of any person other than a member of this board. 35 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:40,319 » Is there a second? >> Second. 36 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:46,879 » Second by Scott. >> All those in favor? 37 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:53,280 » I those opposed extensions equals zero. Can I make a motion to uh approve the 38 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:57,760 consent agenda for 9326? >> You have to read it. 39 00:02:54,160 --> 00:03:03,920 » I know. Yeah, I got it. So, uh uh for accounts payable special batch manifest 40 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:11,840 82526 accounts payable AC payment manifest 82726 accounts payable payment 41 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:17,599 manifest 8.2726 2726 accounts payable payment manifest 42 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:21,599 uh 9326 accounts payable AC payment manifest 9326 43 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:28,000 accounts payable special payment manifest 9326 44 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:32,959 payroll payment manifest dated 82726 removal of veterans credit from map lot 45 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:38,560 116-089 as it no longer qualifies removal of 46 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:44,720 veterans credit from map lot 221-003 Three is no longer 47 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:48,480 » second. Second by Scott. Uh any questions or comments or any single 48 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,640 item? Anyone wants to take off the consent agenda? 49 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:53,760 » All right. All those in favor please say I. 50 00:03:53,280 --> 00:04:00,840 » I. >> I. Those opposed. Extensions. Four zero. 51 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:00,840 » Thank you. 52 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:06,920 » Oops. >> I put it in front of you Sean too. 53 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,120 All right. 54 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:22,960 Close the window. >> Water and sewer update. Jeff, 55 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,639 » I got you on camera a couple times. Jeff, 56 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:30,800 » do you? >> Yeah. I had that camera set up for the 57 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:33,199 conservation commission down that uh >> storm center. 58 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,240 » Storm center by the culvert. >> Oh, yeah. 59 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,720 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Open say water. 60 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,560 I've got I've got you and your guy and I've got a a bear, a fox, and a bobcat. 61 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,240 » Oh, nice. >> Yeah, I'd like to check that out. 62 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,479 » That's funny. When I looked at the transfer station, 63 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:56,160 » it's on the Conservation Commission um >> website Facebook page. I'm going to work 64 00:04:52,880 --> 00:05:00,639 with Kate on all that stuff on the >> There was an animal that crossed into a 65 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:04,000 transfer station one night, too, but I can't tell what what it was. It was 66 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,639 short, but >> it was there's even one of a there's a 67 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:13,199 daddy long legs right on right on the camera while a raccoon two raccoons 68 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,039 going up the tree. >> I had a bull moose down there. I was 69 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,080 inside the storm center building and they came walking down. It was at night 70 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,440 time. It was an emergency. We were down there and I was kind of pinned in the 71 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,919 building for a while where I stood outside. I wasn't quite sure if I wanted 72 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,400 to make the dash to my truck or not. >> Very good. 73 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,560 » What do we All right. What do we got tonight? Um, we have a couple things, 74 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,800 but the um I don't know if you want to start with your updates first. 75 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,759 » If you want to get the >> Which one do you want me to do? 76 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,600 » Um, probably the amendment to the Underwood contract. Do you have 77 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:51,600 » Okay, that's in um Yep. I'll pull it up on the screen too. Um, so under number 78 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:56,000 six is an engineering agreement amendment. There are two documents 79 00:05:53,199 --> 00:06:04,639 there. One is the document that um as I open one is I um bulleted out here. You 80 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:10,080 want to look at it that way? Um I bullet bulleted is not the right language. Um I 81 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:15,840 set some um requested action reasons for change on one of the documents, what the 82 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:20,960 financial impact is, um where the money will come from and if you agree the 83 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:25,240 motion is all on the first document. The second document is 84 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:36,080 it is is a breakdown actually from Underwood um explaining where the money 85 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:40,080 the adjustment is going to be need made um because the project do you want me to 86 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,560 keep going Jeff? >> Um you can or I can explain. It's just 87 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:50,720 the additional work that's required of them. uh just uh designing the new path 88 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:54,960 that was taken for the uh because they couldn't do the directional drill, they 89 00:06:52,319 --> 00:07:01,840 had to do open cut. Um and then they also brought on additional um on-site 90 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:06,160 engineer uh residential I call it resident engineer 91 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:11,599 project manager. So that document up on the screen shows 92 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:15,520 the breakdown um where they are asking for the adjustment because of the 93 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,960 extended time to of the completion of the project and this is for Underwood 94 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:23,919 Engineering. This is not for the contractor or their work. Underwood has 95 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:29,280 done an extensive amount of extra work with this project because we have the 96 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,720 USDA funding. We have the we will have the USDA funding but they but even 97 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:37,680 though that funding hasn't kicked in they have to follow Baba and time worked 98 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,919 and they have to supply all of these documents. Um then we have EPA funding 99 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,960 and we also have >> CDBG 100 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:49,680 » CDBG funding. So there is an extensive amount of extra work that they are that 101 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:53,120 they have done but but because the project has been extended they're asking 102 00:07:51,520 --> 00:08:00,240 for an adjustment to construction administration and resident pro project 103 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:03,240 representation. It totals $40,950. So 104 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:11,199 » to come from the sewer capital reserve >> that's what we're but that's an is that 105 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:15,599 an addition to what we did before? >> Yes it is. Yeah. So this so what we did 106 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:20,639 before was the project that was sergeants cost for the project. So that 107 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:25,520 amount of money would be coming from the contingency split. I think it was almost 108 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:29,199 a split not fully but half of part of that money came from the contingency and 109 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:36,479 the other part is coming from the sewer capital reserve. Um and then there is 110 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:41,919 one more tonight that we I have um which we might as well talk about right now. 111 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:47,680 » The asbestous removal. No, we um the so when going back I realized going back to 112 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:52,240 the beginning of this project the project um and I don't have the document 113 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,120 right in front of me and I'm sorry but the project was roughly 2.9 million but 114 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:01,519 we knew $40,500 was not funded in any part of that 115 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,480 project. We and we agreed to move forward back then but we never said 116 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:10,240 where that money was coming from. So I have that tonight to talk to the Jeff 117 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:18,720 and I have talked about it as well. So it's 40,500 plus this 40,000 118 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:23,680 950. We have to decide where that funding is if we approve the addition to 119 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:29,200 the the amend the engineering amendment. If we approve that one and then two 120 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:34,080 where is that funding coming from? The 40,500 121 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:38,560 was approved previously. We just have to decide now where that money is coming 122 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:42,480 from. So, and I didn't I didn't want to miss this. 123 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,399 So, go ahead. I'm I can't tell you. Go 124 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,880 ahead. >> All right. Yeah, let's deal with one 125 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,200 thing at a time. >> Yes. 126 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,640 » Well, he's giving me the look. >> So, for this 127 00:09:53,839 --> 00:09:59,440 » try to be good. >> So, for this one, it is an additional 128 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:05,760 $40,950 for the engineering on this project. 129 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,279 and for them the construction oversight all of that for the project. 130 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:14,079 » So it's already done, right? >> No, this one this is this is the project 131 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:18,240 that we did that meeting where we kind of went through with them around all the 132 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,360 changes to go from the board to the overcome. 133 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:26,800 » This is technically a second chain a second change order that will be over 134 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:34,240 the contracted amount. So we have to agree whether whether we agree that this 135 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:38,800 is justified 40 40,950 and whether we one if we agree it is we 136 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,560 have to approve the change order and if we agree it is then we have to approve 137 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,920 where the money's coming from >> right so 138 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:50,680 » so I'm guessing if you want this project to keep going we have the choice we have 139 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:50,680 to 140 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:57,519 » the engineering firm is you know we do a lot of work for so we They're also the 141 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,360 ones had our back >> right 142 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:06,240 » on that and fought for us for, you know, a reasonable contract, 143 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,079 » a reasonable result uh on the on the other projects. So, 144 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,360 » what's the balance on the capital reserve? 145 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:17,200 » It's over a million. >> Well, it'll I can't give you an exact 146 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:22,000 number. We're waiting for a transfer to finalize um from the check from the 147 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,240 checking, but I think it is over a million. 148 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:28,480 » Is that your suggestion, Jeff? >> It is money. Yeah. 149 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:33,200 Yeah. Just keep the project moving forward without having to go to 150 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:36,320 taxpayers. We set the money aside for occasions like this. So, 151 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,680 » are they on track to finish before winter? 152 00:11:36,959 --> 00:11:45,440 » November 30th. Yeah. Yeah. >> What does the contract look like? 153 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:50,959 » The the engineering contract is it's that before you. So, the the 154 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:55,839 » the T's there's no T's and C's with the engineering. 155 00:11:53,040 --> 00:12:01,680 So there and I did talk to the town's attorney. The town's attorney did say 156 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:04,320 » so it's time and material basically job. >> Yeah. 157 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:10,240 » Yes. Because they their contract is broken down by So there were six 158 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,279 categories in their contract. >> Yeah. 159 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:17,760 » Six or seven categories and I think they're the ones that are there. So when 160 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:24,200 we get So each bill had a specific amount of money. So, construction 161 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,200 administration, we agreed to $190,000 162 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:30,240 » um on our contract. So, >> I just want to be clear just to be on 163 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:35,680 the same page with everybody, okay? I'm not saying that we should not try to 164 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:41,600 make sure we fund appropriately because they clearly have done extra stuff. What 165 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:46,079 I'm trying to verify is the original agreement that we entered into with 166 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:50,720 them. How are we with that? And then have they notified us in the time frames 167 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:55,920 defined by the contract to make sure that everybody's behaving appropriately? 168 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,120 That's that's when we when we get into like the back and forth with the with 169 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:02,880 the last time when we were talking about the drilling and whatnot, it was all 170 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:08,880 about well this one left and this one did this and this one did that and it 171 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:12,959 was more just trying to like tie off, okay, what does the contract say they're 172 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,160 responsible for for us? That's that's what's coming down. So, what the 173 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:22,639 contract says they're responsible for are those tasks there at $445,000. 174 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:28,000 So, that's what they're responsible for, but um there is no time limit on when 175 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:31,440 they can put in a change order. >> More the time limits when we were 176 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:36,079 talking last time was did they notify us before they stopped doing work 177 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,839 » and did they notify us that Yeah, >> these guys are still working. They're 178 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,680 still >> in construction administration. How did 179 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:47,680 they I guess what I'm getting at is so they're adding $21,100 to construction 180 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,519 administration for $190,000. So 181 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,519 » we were >> It just seems like an interesting 182 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:56,320 number. So how why is construction administration going up? Like what was 183 00:13:55,519 --> 00:14:00,160 the thing that >> we were supposed to be done in June. 184 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:04,480 We're not getting done till November. >> Yeah. just having personnel on board 185 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:07,360 overseeing what they thought they were going to be overseeing as directional 186 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,639 drilling and now they're overseeing a whole 187 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:13,680 » horizontal day. That's part of it. >> Okay. 188 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,920 » And we're extended the whole project. We've extended the project twice. So 189 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,519 we've extended it from September. 190 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:25,279 » I'm not saying it's bad if not three. >> I'm trying to tie off between 191 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:29,120 » we originally said the project was this and then and I mean bottom line they're 192 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:33,519 not the ones running the shovel, >> right? like they're overseeing it. So I 193 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:39,040 just want to make sure that it's >> so just um also just to give you the 194 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:45,079 number the number for sewer capital reserve once the transfer is complete 195 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,079 will be just over a million. 196 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:53,440 » What is what's resident project representative for 20 grand? 197 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:58,240 » We have to have somebody on site because of the horizontal cut now. Not not the 198 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:01,600 horizontal drill the cut the open cut. Sorry. 199 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:08,120 » Well, they're documenting all the work, making sure that the contractor is doing 200 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:08,120 as okay specified. So, 201 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,760 » they do a daily report, fill out all the information, pull ties and whatnot. 202 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:16,959 » Oh, okay. >> Quite a bit that they're doing on site. 203 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:22,160 » So, those are really the two things that are causing it. The extension from to 204 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:25,680 November and we have to have somebody we don't they have to have somebody on site 205 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:31,600 just making sure everything's done appropriately. Um, I'll make a motion 206 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:33,440 that we approve $40,950. >> And, 207 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:40,199 » uh, >> it's on the bottom. 208 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:40,199 » Oh, the first the first sheet. 209 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:48,079 » The, um, engineering agreement. I look at the amendments. 210 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:51,639 » There's two that say amendment. I should have clarified that. 211 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,800 » Actually, 212 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,240 And then it says um amendment >> approve the amendment of the engineering 213 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:07,279 agreement in the amount of 40,950 authorizing the use of the sewer capital 214 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:12,000 reserve to fund and authorize the town administrator to execute any necessary 215 00:16:08,959 --> 00:16:15,600 documents related to the project update. >> I'll second that. 216 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:22,160 » Okay. Motion by John, second by Scott. Any comments or further questions? 217 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:28,480 » All those in favor please say I. >> I. I. Those opposed extensions 4 zero. 218 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,720 » Do you just want to keep going in order, Sean? 219 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,759 » Okay. >> We actually um we brought this to you um 220 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:40,480 to approve the purchase order. It is within the my authority, but we thought 221 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:44,560 it would be good to make sure the board understood it. 222 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:48,959 Those are the two there. >> Did you need me to sign this as well? 223 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,079 » No. No. You just have to tell them about it. 224 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:58,160 » Yeah. This is uh asbestous removal. glass vessels was found on that property 225 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:04,079 uh when we started uh looking started planning on tearing that building down. 226 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Um that was uh that would have been a change order to do the the 227 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:13,679 asbestos removal. We got some local pricing to get an idea what that's going 228 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:21,760 to cost us. That price came in just shy of 7 grand. Uh 6,500 actually. Um 229 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:25,679 » um 7B and 7 C are the two quotes um that he's talking about. If you wanted to 230 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:30,720 look at them, one is from always re and the other's from 231 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:34,559 » Yeah, I think it's uh sergeants uh >> Sergeant recommended them which demo 232 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:38,720 group. >> I think they were around 14 was it? 233 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,640 » Yep. 14,000. So >> yeah. 234 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:47,520 » And then there's a purchase order number in there. Um why didn't So why didn't it 235 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,960 become part of the project? >> Um it was unknown if it was going to 236 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:56,240 actually be in there until the project started taking place and then we did the 237 00:17:53,039 --> 00:18:01,760 we paid for the asbestous testing of the site asbestous and lead paint and 238 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:07,919 whatnot. I think it was $1,500 back when it first started. And then uh 239 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:14,559 they once they determined how much they were going to be uh for a quantity then 240 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:14,559 uh we move forward with getting pricing. 241 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:23,679 I think initially they could have included that in the U contingency fund, 242 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:27,840 but now that that that's depleted, I think it's a way for us to we would 243 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:32,480 have to pay for it one way or the other. If we went through, Sergeant, it would 244 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:36,080 be probably around that 14,000. We just pay it out of pocket directly. 245 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,480 » Okay. >> Save us some save us some money. 246 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:46,480 So, we just want to make sure you um that you knew. Um I can prove this. It's 247 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:52,240 within my the authority if you're okay with it, but we wanted to make sure um 248 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:57,919 that you knew. Um I've also started a document that tracks any costs outside 249 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:03,360 of the project that we're paying for. It has everything in it. Legal document 250 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:07,360 fees for the ban. Um this would be trapped in it as well. So, I know 251 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,840 exactly what we spent on the whole project when we're done, 252 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,960 » including interest. >> Um, I did not. Thank you, John. 253 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,160 » Just surprising. >> Jesus Christ. 254 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,320 » Consensus on >> I'll fix that. 255 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,760 » Signing that. >> Yeah. Yeah. 256 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:29,120 » And and the other 40,000 we make sure we do that. 257 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,840 » So, we have that's next. Okay. >> Um add interest. 258 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:48,160 So the again, this one is kind of an after the fact. It just is something we 259 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:52,400 realized that we never voted where that money was coming from. We just said, 260 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:56,799 "Yeah, go ahead with the project." So it was $40,500. 261 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Um, and actually, um, here I might be able to share my screen. 262 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,840 If you if you if you're connecting back to the Zoom, just don't connect the 263 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:11,400 audio. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 264 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:21,280 » All right. So, this if it show gives you a rough idea where the funding was 265 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:26,799 coming from. So, you can see that I'm not making up the number totally. Um but 266 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:30,159 the original so this is the 40,000 that was approved. It's coming from um 267 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:36,000 engineering. >> That was that's not included in the 268 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:42,000 first one that you voted. So um but this is the what we were supposed to pay for 269 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:50,400 but it's not budgeted anywhere. It's over and above. So 270 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:53,440 » and the thought is that two could come from the capital reserve. 271 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:58,400 » Capital reserve. So you could use the same motion that you just made but tweak 272 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,360 it a little. um if you're okay with that. I didn't get to prepare your 273 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:06,320 document for that. >> That's fine. 274 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:10,720 » And then this is the we're keeping track of where the right now this is 275 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:17,200 everything we've been spending on this side. And then um the funding that we're 276 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:23,280 getting. So and also so that you know that we are pulling from the ban um as 277 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:27,600 needed. Right now we've gotten funding that equals what we've spent on the 278 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:34,480 project. Um, so it's good news. We are keeping back up on it, but we only have 279 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:39,960 about 600,000 left of the ban. Um, so but we're winding down. So 280 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:48,480 » Okay. All right. Uh, I'll make a motion that we uh approve the engineering fees 281 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:52,960 uh the engineering agreement in the amount of $40,500 282 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:57,600 authorizing the use of the sewer capital reserve to fund and authorize the town 283 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:01,280 administrator to execute any necessary documents related to this up this 284 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,280 project update. Second. 285 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:14,799 » Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? 286 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:20,559 All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. Those opposed. Abstensions 40 zero. 287 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:23,600 » So you just um made me think of something too. Kristen and Sean 288 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,760 something for us. >> You know when we have that we have this 289 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:28,320 ban. >> Mhm. 290 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:32,080 » We've got we've had various tans and whatnot. One of the things that we may 291 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,559 want to make sure we know about when we do the budget like that budget day, 292 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:38,559 » right? >> Overall debt to income. Well, the 293 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,000 overall debt to income ratio too, like how 294 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:45,679 » how we line up against all because we still have debt for public safety 295 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,600 building. We still have debt for other things like 296 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,640 » So, um, debt is regulated by the DRA. We we're only I'll get you that 297 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,039 information, but we have a certain percent that we're not allowed to go 298 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,320 over. >> I'm curious like where are we at? Yeah. 299 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:05,840 In relation to that, >> we the good well right now it's a we 300 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:11,120 have now that we're values are where they're at. Our debt is much higher that 301 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:15,919 we're allowed to have. We aren't near there though. But I will because I think 302 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,600 it was a year or so ago we said we were getting close. That's why 303 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:24,159 » we were till we did the reval. But that changes things. 304 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:27,919 » Not that I would to go into more debt. >> I was going to say yeah. So for 305 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,520 everyone's knowledge, Christina wants us to 306 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:35,760 » I do not want to. >> Everybody knows 307 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:40,240 » I want to finish the projects we have. >> So Jeff is actually here for um also to 308 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:44,960 give you water sewer update. Do you but before do you want to talk to them about 309 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:49,440 the Pleasant Street tank? >> Um I have that on my list. just touch a 310 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:57,919 little bit on >> um so I'll start off with the um little 311 00:23:53,600 --> 00:24:02,640 bit of an update on the project. Um couple weeks ago we did the bypass. They 312 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:07,200 did the bypass pump and tie on tie in. And what that did is it uh tied in down 313 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:12,159 on uh Central Street Marramac Street intersection and tied back in at the top 314 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:17,120 of Marramac Street. And we're utilizing uh HDP pipe to get around all the 315 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,360 construction that's taking place. As they do the open cut, they're ripping 316 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:26,159 out the existing uh force mane and replacing it with the new. Um, they've 317 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,480 encountered a pretty goodized boulder. Uh, I sent that picture along. 318 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:35,039 » Oh, do you want me to It's in the Yeah, you might have seen it in the but is 319 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,400 probably about a third the size of their excavator it looked like. 320 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120 » It's pretty. >> Yeah, they actually had to dig a hole 321 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,320 beside it and push it in because it was too large. But 322 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:45,760 » is that what they're scoop? >> What's that? 323 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,799 » Is that the one you sent us? >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah. 324 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:53,120 » Um, >> but uh yeah, they're up in front of the 325 00:24:50,799 --> 00:25:00,080 first house almost at Spring Street right now. Um, they uh we did close down 326 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:03,919 the road uh Wednesday and uh they encountered ledge as soon as they got on 327 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Central Street. So now they're bringing in a a whole ram next week. So we had to 328 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:15,200 reschedu that uh road closure. >> It's at the very end. Um, we'll fill in 329 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:20,400 the details to the public >> of what day those that'll take place. 330 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:26,080 » Oh, that's a goodie. >> That was a good size one. So, 331 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,520 » all right. >> But I think they're averaging only about 332 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:33,039 80 ft a day, and they're hoping to speed that up a bit. They're they're working 333 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:38,080 in some tight areas where between the existing gravity feed, ripping out the 334 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:41,679 force main, uh, the highways, storm water, 335 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:45,440 » um, is laid right there as well. and passing some of those old brick 336 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:50,640 structures that are catch basins. They're just taking their time. So, 337 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:56,159 we touched a little bit. >> So, that line that goes along Marramac 338 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,640 that we're replacing, >> that's not that's the force main that's 339 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:05,760 not connected to all the houses. >> Correct. It's just Yeah, just no 340 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:08,720 laterals coming off it. But they have encountered some of the laterals as they 341 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,320 passed. Well, >> the one that they passed they hit. So, 342 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520 they're making those repairs as they go along. 343 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:18,159 » Okay. >> Uh trying to avoid them. Uh they did hit 344 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:21,760 the gravity feed sewer >> and they didn't uh they plan on not 345 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,760 hitting that again. We'll see how that goes. 346 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,880 » Really is nothing worse than hitting the water stuff. 347 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:34,600 » Yeah. >> Well, sewer is worse. 348 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:46,080 Like I say, this uh of course this is pushing the whole project out to the end 349 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:51,840 of November now. So, but that would the end of November that uh old pump station 350 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:59,279 will be torn down by then. Um and the foundation will be uh buried what's left 351 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:03,520 of that. So, um, 352 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:09,720 sorry, I meant to print this out, but my printer wasn't working, so it's on my 353 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,720 phone. Uh, 354 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,159 all the guys, they've been working down the treatment plant. Our buildings 355 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:21,600 needed painting, so they've been pressure washing, scraping, and getting 356 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,720 ready to to paint those buildings. Couple of doors needed to replacing, so 357 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:30,559 they're working on that. just just grounds maintenance or building 358 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:32,960 maintenance. Um there's some paving that we're going to 359 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,559 be working with the highway. They're doing forth Brookbrook Road. Um 360 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,679 initially, um Victor felt that the manels didn't need to be addressed 361 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,559 because they were just going to grind the pavement down. Sounds like he's 362 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,320 going to have a talk with them on Tuesday because they're talking about 363 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,320 taking the frames and covers right out and grinding the road and then going 364 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,360 back and adjusting those. So he'll be talking to them on Tuesday to find out 365 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,799 what we need to do or if they're going to take care of that themselves. So but 366 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:04,480 along with paving we have a lot of patches that we need to do addressing 367 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:09,039 some of the manholes like on Hillside Avenue is plow catches some manholes. So 368 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:13,440 we're going to be uh working with them um kind of feathering them out so that 369 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:19,039 doesn't happen. Uh we're currently uh scheduling out our 370 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:23,679 backflow testing um throughout town with backflow devices. Our guys are trained 371 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:28,799 to test those. Uh so that's what they're doing. 372 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Uh we're scheduled uh seasonals uh for the middle of October hydrant flushing. 373 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:38,279 Uh so this is taking place over the next month and two month or two. So 374 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,919 we had our last tour. We had a few of the residents come. It was pretty 375 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,640 successful. We had a little guy, a little 376 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:53,039 six-year-old came and he was pretty impressed. his dad. I saw his dad. His 377 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:58,399 dad said he's home with a lab coat on and mixing stuff. 378 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:01,679 So, he's filling out an application. So, >> yeah. Good. Tell me I'll have a spot in 379 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,440 uh >> Yeah. 380 00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:09,360 » Yeah. in 12 years. >> Yeah. Um 381 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,960 we uh had to expedite our valve service. Normally we 382 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:17,840 have valve service done at our booster station um in November, but this year we 383 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:23,039 started having some problems just like the past week or two. Uh so I'm having 384 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:28,559 that guy come in sooner um and address that. So we got called out there on a 385 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:33,919 Sunday to leak. So uh had to do a repair to the back piston 386 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,880 for the thumb. Um we have a leak in hydraulic tank. We have to get that 387 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:43,120 repaired. We looked into a replacement of that tank and it's $6,500 for a tank 388 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,000 for that backo. So, I think we can make the repair a lot cheaper. 389 00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:56,960 » Not that I want to volunteer them, but do you ever talk to 390 00:29:53,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Victor about his you his um guy who does mechanic work for him? 391 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:05,760 » Yeah, we've utilized him to the the welder guy. Yeah. No, no, no. They're in 392 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,679 house person. >> Oh, Jonathan. 393 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,600 » Yeah. >> Not that he could spare him right now 394 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,200 with the short short crew, but it might be something to think about. 395 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:20,640 » Yeah, our guys are pretty good, too. I got Jesse. That's what he came to. Yeah, 396 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:25,760 he's a me was a mechanic. >> Um, 397 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:30,799 let's see. Oh, the utility truck's been down for about two weeks now. vacuum 398 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:36,559 pump, uh, booster pump for the brakes and power steering failed. Um, it's over 399 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,720 at Auto Trends. The order of part, uh, they received a damaged one. Uh, they're 400 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:45,520 expecting to get it tomorrow. Uh, this truck is a 2017. 401 00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:51,440 It's scheduled to be replaced in next year's budget. Uh, I just got a placeho 402 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:54,960 holder right now of about 85,000. I know I can get a truck a lot cheaper than 403 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:59,279 that, but I just to start out with on the budget because this is a utility 404 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:03,240 body truck. So, four-wheel drive and a diesel at that. So, 405 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:12,480 and the oil spill down there. We're waiting to hear back from the customer 406 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,480 that's responsible for the cleanup. If we do not hear from him, I think in the 407 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:22,080 next I think we got one more week that we gave him till we will do the clean up 408 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:27,919 ourselves or or pay for it and then just put it on to his bill. 409 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:36,320 » I'll check the Yeah, I think it's one more week though for the deadline. Y 410 00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:41,039 » and then uh there was the propane uh that Christina mentioned down to 411 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:45,440 Pleasant Street pump station. That's we have a backup generator down there. It's 412 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:49,360 only got about 20% left in the tank. Um, so that's causing an issue with the 413 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:54,799 generator running. This tank was supposed to be topped off, but it it 414 00:31:51,519 --> 00:32:00,880 didn't pass uh a test. They have a anode bags uh that kind of it's a sacrificial 415 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,399 bag that takes the corrosion away from the tank that has failed. They did a 416 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,880 couple of tests. So, they feel as though that tank needs to be dug up and 417 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:12,559 replaced. Dead River uh has taken ownership of the tank and will replace 418 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,679 the tank. However, we're responsible for esavation. It's a thousandgalon tank 419 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:24,559 that's in the ground. Um my concern when I spoke initially with them is there's a 420 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:27,600 $500 450 annual fee for that tank. Um so my thought was that we would buy the 421 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:32,320 tank. That's what we've done with the other uh projects that we have. We 422 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:37,120 purchase the tanks and then we don't have a tank rental and reduce cost for 423 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:40,720 the propane itself. But talking with Bill Carquette, he said they wave the 424 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:43,600 the rental fee. So >> nice. 425 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:47,279 » Um it would be worth probably just having them stick the tank back in. 426 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,200 » But in the future when the town does go out to propane bid is that's one of the 427 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,279 things that they should consider is, you know, are they willing to wave the 428 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:58,399 rental fee to keep that cost down. >> Yeah. 429 00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:02,960 » We did think it might be a bigger conversation that we probably need to 430 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,440 have too because we own some tanks. We don't own some tanks. Um 431 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:10,159 » yeah, >> we're finding in um with Central Street, 432 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:16,000 they contracted with Suburban. That's not part of our the company we have in 433 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,880 our we have a we haven't gone out to RP yet, but it's not the one we've been 434 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,760 contracted with. >> So, we're just we can get a bigger 435 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:25,039 discussion. >> I think Sergeant may have been talking 436 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:29,039 with Dead River 2 today because that's where Bill called from. Yep. 437 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,200 » He was at Central Street. So, I think they're trying to work out something, 438 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:36,159 but it it would be nice just to I'm trying to keep a handle on what we own 439 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:41,279 and what we don't >> cuz we did ask them to we said that 440 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,480 Suburban wasn't our normal provider and at the time they thought they were 441 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,320 checking to see if they could potentially change their contract 442 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,279 because we wanted to stay with our current provider. They're filling all of 443 00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:56,399 our tanks. >> Yeah, they did say if I was to purchase 444 00:33:53,840 --> 00:34:01,279 the tank, it was $5,000 for the tank, too. But uh it does have me thinking too 445 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,000 the waist one at the wastewater plants uh that was installed in 1969 a thousand 446 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,599 tank right now it's at 70% and they continue to fill it as needed but it's 447 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:15,200 only running the generator so it was over a year ago when it was last filled 448 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:19,599 so but that uh the one at Pleasant Street was installed in 1998 so I don't 449 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:24,960 know you know there's no guarantees of how long these tanks last so 450 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,599 » well generally it's what it's the anode bags that really Yeah, they're supposed 451 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,879 to. >> Yeah. 452 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,800 » And that Yeah, that's what's happening Pleasant Street obviously, but that has 453 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:37,280 made it only 20 years. >> Yeah, 454 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:44,320 » the bill of thought maybe is just the soil conditions, the water, you know, so 455 00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:48,639 it is close to the road there. Just something to keep in mind. Uh they 456 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,879 they did agree that they would put 20% in it and hopefully get us back so we 457 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,599 can at least operate that generator more than 20 minutes. That's what happens. It 458 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,839 fails. 200 gallons. I think they said they would be delivering today. Yep. 459 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:04,079 » Yeah. >> Okay. 460 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:07,520 » And I think October 10th is when they plan on 461 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:10,720 » doing the tank replacement and we'll we're trying to figure out which way 462 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,800 that path goes because I think it may go underneath the existing pavement, but we 463 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,079 dug up the last one when they did Central Street years ago. We can dig up 464 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,599 this one again. So, >> okay. 465 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:26,240 » I just checked the letter. His his time is up. So, we'll move forward now with 466 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:28,400 the upper ditch and we will do what we It's 467 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,000 » Oh, it has. Okay. Yeah. >> Yep. 468 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:36,079 » What was going on at School Street yesterday? 469 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,160 » Oh, uh that that was a customer's leak. 128 School Street leak. Uh it got worse. 470 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:45,359 We actually had to shut it off which kind of uh forced the guy to have to get 471 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:49,359 somebody out there. And the piece of equipment that they used was a VAT 472 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:53,040 truck. It was a hydro >> excavation. Yeah. It's a pretty neat way 473 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:56,800 to do it. >> Um, there was a sewer line right in the 474 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,720 way and they were able to they take a basically a pressure washer, loosen the 475 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,720 ground and vacuum vacuum out. >> It's nice cuz this guy's right down the 476 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,040 road. He lives right next Oh, his business is right next to the Smith 477 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,640 River. >> Yeah. 478 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:17,599 » Um, and we could utilize him in the future on something. could 479 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,240 » I actually thought of maybe the propane tank get a price from him to see what it 480 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,520 would >> Yeah. 481 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:29,960 » take just might be a cleaner way to do that. So, 482 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,960 » all right. 483 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:39,760 » I hit a button on the keyboard and it turned the volume on. Sorry. 484 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:43,359 » All right. Any other questions for >> Thank you, Jeff. 485 00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:46,359 » Thank you guys. JR's 486 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,359 like I'm out. 487 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,480 » It's easy when you have a million dollars to 488 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,880 » well >> to cover that. 489 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:02,320 » It does make it a little bit >> makes it a little easier to 490 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:07,119 » little straightforward. >> Yeah. 491 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:11,359 » Come on up, Chief. in the 492 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:18,240 » um >> and nothing 493 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:22,599 in your folders. Um there is a memo from uh chief under number nine. 494 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,000 If I can, I'd love to get to that last. >> Okay. 495 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,640 » Okay. >> Just because I think it'll it'll be a 496 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:38,240 little longer conversation maybe. Um, 497 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:45,520 so I guess I just start with the update that um, you know, we're kind of due for 498 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:50,880 after seeing you guys in May. Um, hit a couple of things. So, we're at full 499 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,320 staff. You know, I mean, not to toot our horns, but, you know, it's always a nice 500 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,200 thing to hear from the department where they're at, but we are at full staff. 501 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:03,760 Um, pretty much all those new hires are are at the end or technically over the 502 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:08,480 end of their probationary period. We just need to get reviews finalized and 503 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:13,920 probably next meeting you'll have uh three of the four of those. The fourth 504 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:20,800 one was hired late in December and is in his EM is AMT class now uh which would 505 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:25,839 be the LA one of the last requirements on his probation. So, um, his may be 506 00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:29,440 extended just because that class kind of ends at the end of his probation and 507 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:34,079 he'll need to test and all that stuff, but, um, that class is being held at the 508 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:39,520 public safety building. We worked with Becker training, uh, last year to run an 509 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,599 EMT class in the fall, which was super successful, put a lot of people in the 510 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:49,040 area through. Um, and the same thing this year. I mean, there's people from 511 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,640 all over the place coming to it. Um, but another good number from the area, from 512 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:59,200 our department and surrounding department. So, that's exciting. Um, 513 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:04,960 I say we're at full staff. We're at full staff career-wise. Our PDM cadre is is 514 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:08,079 pretty good. Um, we still miss a Saturday or a Sunday coverage period 515 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:14,960 here and there just based on availability. Um, a few more people may 516 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:20,160 join into that uh pretty soon. call company numbers are are still kind 517 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:25,520 of an issue. You know, we're even at the staffing level of three and basically 518 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:29,200 five of us around during the daytime. Um, and some of the good stuff we've 519 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:33,920 been able to do because of that, you still need a a good active call company. 520 00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:37,520 Um, and our our call company, what we have left is is good and solid and have 521 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,880 been around for a while and and know what uh what is going on. 522 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:48,079 What's kind of exciting is uh it's been a lot of travel and time away, but um 523 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,200 I've been to a number of conferences really this year. Um kind of partly in 524 00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:57,359 that position as the president of the fire chief's association was at least 525 00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,200 helped pay for some of it. Um but the New England division of IFC has a 526 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:07,680 recruitment and retention safer grant right now. It's just over $3.3 million. 527 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:14,320 Um, a big chunk of that is the ability for basically almost every department in 528 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:19,359 the New England area to take um and bring on up to five, provided the 529 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:25,119 funding stays, up to five new caller volunteer responders. They reimburse 530 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:31,359 $400 of a physical. They reimburse $4,100 worth of gear. Uh, they'll 531 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:37,680 reimburse, I think it's like 2500 or something like that toward those initial 532 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:40,480 trainings. fire one, fire two, EMT. Um, we're just going to have people to take 533 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,760 advantage of it. So, yes, it would still, you know, if we could bring on, 534 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,680 you know, two or three people and take advantage of that or just one person 535 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:54,960 take advantage of that grant, it would still cost us, we'll call it 2500 or 536 00:40:50,720 --> 00:41:01,520 $3,000, but offset by, you know, 7 $8,000 worth of grant funds, which would 537 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:08,800 be great. Um, the IAFF has a marketing campaign supposedly designed toward uh 538 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:13,200 the generation Z crowd um called the hustle worth having. There's not a lot 539 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,200 of money per se, but it's marketing material that you can have access to and 540 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,720 get banners and postcards and some social media marketing out there. So, 541 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,400 now that I've kind of gone through that conference cycle and we're starting to 542 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:27,440 put some plans together, we'll at least start pushing it out there and if we can 543 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,599 capture some people, that'd be fantastic. 544 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,319 Um, so we're uh I think I said we're a 545 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:40,960 little behind during the last update, just statistically a few percent behind. 546 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:45,839 Um, we're probably still a few behind, but we just went over a thousand calls 547 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,920 and did a couple more today. So, um, that keeps us back on track for our what 548 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:56,560 we've seen the last couple years around 1500 calls for the year. Um, 549 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,400 some of the recent incidents, uh, you know, I'm obviously as the fire chief, 550 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,839 I'm super proud of how they've gone. We've had a number of fires in the area, 551 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:11,280 both outside and structural fires. Um, obviously the the big one was the Manor 552 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:18,000 Estates one. Um, and that was a crazy amount of fire uh 553 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,599 in a five six five >> five unit 554 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:27,119 » five unit, right? Townhouse style condo. Um, and while there was some fire damage 555 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,599 to one of the adjoining units and some water damage to the other adjoining 556 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:37,920 unit, we've basically kept it to the to the uh unit of origin, which is 557 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,800 » really at the end of the day almost unheard of in the fire service. It's a 558 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:46,640 nonprotected building. Uh, a number of of residents and past residents will 559 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:51,440 claim that there are firewalls. there are not firewalls uh separating those uh 560 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,640 occupancies. Um wow. 561 00:42:52,560 --> 00:43:00,160 » So, you know, certainly that crew that day and and Deputy Doll taking command 562 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,400 initially cuz I was in vacation mode and out of town and then was back off of 563 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:08,960 vacation mode and back here for it. But, um they did a fantastic job. Uh and it 564 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,520 really just comes down to right having the staffing, having the training, and 565 00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,920 having that mindset of, you know, we're going to get there with a quick 566 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:22,560 response. we're going to aggressively attack this fire. Um and and then just 567 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:26,319 the ton of training that they do. So, uh very proud of them and the mutual aid 568 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:31,680 partners. We had a great turnout for mutual aid. Um which we really rely on, 569 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,720 right? Cuz not only for manpower and for other pieces of equipment. We've only 570 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:40,319 got so many fire trucks at the end of the day. Um but we needed another 571 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:44,319 ladder. Ashlin's ladder came down um and assisted with that. 572 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,800 It's in the hydrant district, which is great. But if you want to get water on 573 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,319 the fire fast, somebody coming in behind you, which is usually a mutual aid 574 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:56,319 partner, needs to get that water supply established. And and uh it happened 575 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,560 relatively quickly. Some stuff we reviewed, but for the most part it was 576 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,839 fine. Um because those partners, New Hampton, New Hampton has some hydrants, 577 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,880 but New Hampton, Alexandria, Bridgewwater, companies like that, they 578 00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:10,319 don't have hydrants, but they train with us all the time or they work with us all 579 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:16,240 the time and and we can trust them to get that done. So, um, that was a big 580 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:22,240 one. Uh, obviously very visible, but it was it was a big stop and a and a good 581 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:26,560 job for the department. Um, I also want to point out with some of those uh 582 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:32,160 events and and kind of thank the board for when we replaced car one last year, 583 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:36,960 it allowed us to keep the old car one, make it car 3. We haven't labeled it 584 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:40,720 yet, but um to make it car 3. So, it gives I apologize. I meant to start 585 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:46,240 here. For those of you who don't know, this is Deputy Chief Aaron Heath. 586 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:51,280 He's been around a while, but he I keep him in an office and don't let him out 587 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:55,040 very often. So, um, but he's here one to kind of get a feel for this, but two, as 588 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,800 we talk about engine two, we let headed up that truck committee. So, um, even 589 00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:03,520 though I don't think we'll get too in the weeds on that tonight, hopefully he 590 00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:09,520 can, you know, answer questions or tell me that I'm wrong. So 591 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,480 up until that point, Aaron in his role as a deputy doing a lot of fire 592 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,800 prevention work, attending a lot of meetings, um would use the utility 593 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,880 truck. And one of the big things that I wanted to be able to do when we went to 594 00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:25,920 that staffing of three is to use the utility truck, which is a smaller 595 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:29,440 vehicle, more normal for people to drive as, you know, to chase, right? Hey, we 596 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:34,400 need an extra set of hands versus sending an engine like a lot of bigger 597 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:40,319 cities do or other towns do cuz it's crazy to put a million dollar 40 50 598 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:45,200 60,000lb vehicle on the road just to go give a hand when we have a pickup truck 599 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:49,920 that can do the same thing. Um, but when Aaron's using the pickup truck most 600 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:53,760 every hour of every day, it doesn't afford to. So, you're chasing the 601 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:58,000 ambulance or the rescue or whatever. So, it gives him a vehicle to use routinely 602 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:02,400 during the day. gives his gears there, whatever. What else we've been able to 603 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,640 do is like, you know, especially April vacation, not that Aaron doesn't have 604 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:10,240 kids, he doesn't go on vacation. Uh myself, Deputy Dollar are usually 605 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,040 somewhere out of state during April vacation. So, April vacation, he could 606 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,640 take that car home, quickly respond back. We had like two brush fire 607 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,640 incidents during that week, you know, in the weekend and overnight period. That 608 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:28,560 was basically like having me still around or or Doof in town dealing with 609 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:33,119 it. Uh we did the same thing um when I went to Alaska at the end of July and 610 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,720 then this month most of the month on and off he's had it uh kind of going back 611 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:41,520 and forth and deal with meetings and call backs. Same thing we had the the 612 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:46,480 fire on Roundtop was in that time period. Aaron was able to quickly get 613 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:51,520 back. Um, so we're super appreciative that we still have that and uh we'll 614 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:56,560 continue to kind of work it that way and working toward ultimately kind of where 615 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,240 everybody um where most other departments are at and that you know 616 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:05,119 eventually that becomes a more normal take-home vehicle for those for those 617 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:10,480 period times. But triing it has worked out exactly like we expected it to. Um 618 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:15,599 so more to talk about that at some point. But 619 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,640 that's car 3. Budget prep. Obviously, we're going to hit budget in another 620 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,040 month, but that's kind of a big one right now with um 621 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:27,520 everybody's kind of on the schedule. Aaron's got project areas or budget 622 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:31,280 lines that he manages. Every officer pretty much has a budget line or project 623 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:35,760 area and then some of the firefighters as well. So, those meetings are 624 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:40,560 scheduled for like the next week or two. Um I think the early look we're in 625 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:45,680 pretty good shape. Obviously, you know, we presented it last year, right? That 626 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:49,280 our budget, it's 80 plus% personnel. Not a lot you can do about it. Out of that 627 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,119 20% uh that's left over, about half of it, 628 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:58,880 there's really nothing we can do. It's EMS billing. It's uh the dispatch 629 00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:02,800 contract. There's some kind of required and statutory maintenance in there that 630 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:07,280 got to have a contract. You got to have those expenses. So, while 10% of our 631 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:11,760 budget is a fair amount of money, it really only leaves 10% to kind of from 632 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,760 one year to the next get projects done. And um we've been pretty effective, I 633 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:20,160 think, the last couple years doing that where that 10% doesn't see much of an 634 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:23,680 increase. We can say things like, you know, last year, the year before, there 635 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:27,599 was some money to upfit the new ambulance. That's a project. We've 636 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,599 completed it. We don't need those funds anymore, but now it's time to repair 637 00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:36,319 pagers or we need to, you know, it's a big year where we do hydro testing, not 638 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:40,960 hydro testing, but uh yeah, hydro testing on on all the air pack bottles 639 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:45,440 um and move those funds around to use it. We did it with training last year um 640 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,760 largely because of that training contract. My hope this year is not only 641 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:54,720 to keep it funded there, but it maybe potentially even go a little bit higher. 642 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,240 Um, I tell our crew and especially the officers all the time, we really have 643 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,280 three jobs. We need to respond to emergencies. We need to make sure 644 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,960 equipment's ready to respond to emergencies and people are ready to 645 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,200 respond to emergencies. And we respond to emergencies. And 646 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:12,480 certainly the work we've done and and what we'll talk about with engine 2 and 647 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,839 the upcoming ambulance purchase, we've set ourselves up to have, you know, at 648 00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:21,119 least good equipment and then we maintain it on a day-to-day basis. That 649 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:25,839 training number has never really been a good number for a long time, but 650 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:31,040 especially now with 11 full-time guys on the floor, Aaron, myself, and the rest 651 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:34,480 of the staff, it just needs to be a bigger number to ensure that they're 652 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:39,119 getting what they need training wise. Um, so we'll talk about that during the 653 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:45,760 budget stuff, but that's kind of a big goal for me this year. 654 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:49,119 Uh, one of the projects, so I use budget prep time. It's a good time of year, 655 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,160 right? You're in that last third. You're in the home stretch to say, "What 656 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,200 haven't we got done? What do we still need to get done? And then maybe through 657 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,280 budget constraints, what do we need to hold off on?" So, that'll be the focus 658 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,000 over the next two weeks, getting everybody aligned for the rest of the 659 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:08,800 season. Um, one of those projects that wasn't necessarily on the radar. It it 660 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:13,200 is, you know, in the plan in the next year or two, we would replace the 661 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,440 hydraulic tools, but um there's some really good uh trade in value stuff 662 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,760 right now. We started that process. Captain Marsh started that process over 663 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:27,680 like the last month. Uh has gotten vendor numbers, had all the vendors in 664 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:31,200 for product demos. Um so probably in the next month I'll be bringing that forward 665 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:36,079 to at least look at and and see if we want to move forward with it this year 666 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:40,640 or not. Um I just I'll take a chance to or a moment to say thank you as usual to 667 00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:44,160 Steam Gilpatrick and Gilpatrick Metal Recycling. 668 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:48,319 anytime we call and particularly during these demos, we've got a bunch of cars 669 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:52,480 up, which certainly isn't a big deal to him, but we appreciate the space and the 670 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,400 ability to just go up there. And there was even some confusion on the last one. 671 00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:02,000 He said, "I just go down there. Don't cut my torch truck. Cut whatever else 672 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:06,480 you want effectively, you know." So, um, we certainly appreciate their help. Uh, 673 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:12,240 whether it's that or safe prom exercises or other stuff we do at the station, uh, 674 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:16,480 they're always awesome. So, the only other stuff to get into is 675 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:21,599 kind of where we're at on on the ambulance and engine replacements. And I 676 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:27,920 bring up the ambulance uh for kind of a reason. So, the ambulance um we had 677 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,000 gotten a number last year when we took delivery of the truck. Hey, obviously 678 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:36,960 we've we're paying the price on 3 years ago. Where are we at now? Uh that number 679 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:41,119 has inflated a lot more than I anticipated. 680 00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:44,400 That said, I asked Lieutenant O'Neal when he started looking into the 681 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:48,400 ambulance prices and and new specifications, 682 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,920 where are we at when it comes to remounting, right? I've talked about it 683 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:57,359 for years. I wanted to be there. The only issue is that we have to remount 684 00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:02,400 that ambulance onto a van chassis. We have two four-wheel drive trucks. If 685 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,400 we buy a van and it's really cruddy weather, we can very easily switch over 686 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:12,240 and run one of those first due during that period. we can easily run over and 687 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,000 and switch it to first due for the four to eight however long winter is at this 688 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:24,079 point. Three months some winters it seems like. But um so that price is 689 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:28,640 about half of buying a new truck ambulance. So that's going to make a ton 690 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:35,599 of sense. Uh it's obviously going to give us some wiggle room in that plan. 691 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:40,000 um that down the road, like was talking to Scott earlier about the replacement 692 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:44,640 numbers and projecting them. I feel pretty good about them, but we're, you 693 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:50,160 know, a couple years out from potentially ordering the ladder. We're 694 00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:53,839 14 years out from from engine 4. If there's a little bit more increase 695 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:59,040 than we anticipate, now we know there's, you know, probably 100 to 150 grand 696 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:04,079 total that we've we've kind of saved here and can be used down the road, 697 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:09,119 which would be great. So, depending on how some of this other discussion goes 698 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:14,319 tonight, we'll probably won't be back until about this time next year to 699 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:18,400 approve the remount on the ambulance. Obviously, we're taking one of the three 700 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:22,880 ambulances that we have. It goes out pretty frequently. we use it for detail 701 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:27,520 coverage. Um, and so we kind of have to time when that goes out. So roughly that 702 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:32,640 October, November time frame. If it goes out to, I think it's Missouri. Um, 703 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,480 right now, we'll see where we end up, but if it goes out to Missouri, it's 704 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:42,240 there for up to 6 months, probably at least 5 months. Now it's back in May. We 705 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:47,920 get it back ahead of summer season, swim with a mission detail, and then football 706 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:51,760 details in the fall. So, um, if the money's not quite right, we'll 707 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:58,240 have to wait another year. At least waiting another year on the ambulance at 708 00:53:54,319 --> 00:54:05,920 a 5% increase is $10,000 more as opposed to waiting another year on the engine, 709 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:10,480 which is $50 to $70,000 more. Um, so that's where the ambulance is at. Just 710 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:12,640 kind of a it's coming, but not quite yet. 711 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:16,480 » What do you do with that? Do you drive that out there or do you put it on a 712 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,319 truck? Well, actually, now that I say that, the company they were talking 713 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:27,079 about was Tennessee, and I was thinking about driving it out 714 00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:27,079 and maybe lining up a water val. 715 00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:35,200 » Yeah. >> Um, but yeah, we'll evaluate, you know, 716 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:39,599 is it is it uh which is more cost effective, right? You know, depending on 717 00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:42,640 sometimes you look into shipping stuff like that and it's surprisingly cheaper 718 00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:46,800 than you think it would be. And then sometimes you're like, "Yeah, another 719 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:49,599 $5,000 when >> an airline ticket or two, you know." 720 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:56,880 » Yeah. >> And whatever. And some fuel. Um, 721 00:54:53,839 --> 00:55:03,920 so yeah, all that'll be ironed out. Then engine two. So, engine 2 really for the 722 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:08,480 past two years now or better part of two years, deputy chief uh deputy Heath and 723 00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:13,599 and the group that he put together has been looking at um the replacement of 724 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,599 engine 2. That's we've been talking about it for a while now. That's why we 725 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:23,280 made a bunch of moves uh at town meeting this year and uh and it's it's time to 726 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:29,520 move forward with it. So, we uh as a kind of reminder or or 727 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:34,880 education, engine 2 is our first due truck. It's our primary attack piece. It 728 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:42,240 has 50 some odd thousand miles on it now at this point. Um after about 20 21 729 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:45,359 years or 21 years in service. Um >> believe. 730 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,119 » Yeah. Yeah. Cuz remember when we bought it? 731 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,640 » Cuz I had been here for a little while before we bought it. 732 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,720 » Right. >> Yeah. Remember, we were gonna buy a 733 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,799 ladder, right? >> And then we bought an engine, 734 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,160 » right? >> And then we quickly bought a ladder, 735 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,920 which of course is an issue for now, too. But, 736 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:06,640 » um, so engine two is the first new truck. Engine two, it's come up a couple 737 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:09,760 times. When this thing we sign off on it and it gets delivered, you're going to 738 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,240 look and go, did we get anything different? Um, it'll look somewhat 739 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:18,559 different, right? Side by side, but it's going to be largely the same. We did a 740 00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:22,079 re I think I wasn't heading it up, but I was on that committee. We did a really 741 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:26,640 good job designing Engine 2 when we first got it. Now 20 years have gone by. 742 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:30,559 The call company looks a little different. Our mutual aid partners look 743 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,160 a little different. You know, part of that is, hey, if we could put some more 744 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,720 water on it, we don't need another tanker, but another 250 gallons of water 745 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:44,079 is another minute and a half worth of active firefighting for that mutual aid 746 00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:48,640 company to come and and get the hydrant connected. or when we're out of the 747 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,480 hydrant district, another tanker to show up and somebody to start drafted out of 748 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:59,680 the Remmit Pond or Mooney Clark or whatever. So, um we also do a lot on our 749 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:03,680 rear hose loads. So, that for me, not a big deal that they're 7 ft in the air, 750 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:09,040 but getting them down to 4 and 1 half, 5T or whatever makes a huge difference 751 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:15,280 for for everybody else deploying those hose loads. Um, 752 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:19,520 and then you know obviously between LED and low voltage stuff, we've come leaps 753 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,200 and bounds in 20 years and the idea of having another hydraulic generator that 754 00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:28,799 we're replacing the stator on every 5 years goes out the window, put an 755 00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:34,079 inverter and all 12vt light system on. So um, 756 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:39,359 that is kind of the high level where we're at with engine 2. Um, I put in 757 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:43,200 this that I sent you just kind of what the financial picture looks like, you 758 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:47,119 know, as I have it laid out, what we were working on and you saw bigger 759 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,040 versions of this last year as we had the discussion on uh changing that revolving 760 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:56,640 fund. Um, that gives you something of a snapshot 761 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:03,119 at least, you know, kind of through when the ladder's potential payment will be 762 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:07,680 done. We talked to I say we they I didn't deal with any of it. um a number 763 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:13,760 of companies. Uh so they're all listed there. Four guys. Smeal, we have all 764 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:18,960 SMEL right now. Um I'll say it now. You know, SME's kind of 765 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:25,920 out of the running based on their price. We've been very satisfied with SMEL. Um 766 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:30,160 and from a from a dealership standpoint, I think overall we've been more or less 767 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:36,079 satisfied with doing the fire equipment apparatus. The issue is in 2005 and even 768 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:39,520 still in 2009 when we got the ladder, they had a great mobile service 769 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,520 department. So even though they're in Connecticut, they could come up pretty 770 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,040 quickly. They were fairly fair on pricing. They knew what they were doing. 771 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,640 They were quick to resolve issues. That just isn't the case anymore. If you take 772 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:56,240 it down there, they still do a great job fixing it, but taking it to Connecticut 773 00:58:52,960 --> 00:59:01,599 is a real pain in the in the butt. So, um, when you have Lakes Region an hour 774 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:06,240 away and and Dingy an hour that way and a couple of better options that you can 775 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:10,079 go to in the state, but they're servicing other vehicles and and busy 776 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:18,319 and not necessarily a spiel manufacturer. So, um, Alexis Fire is 777 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:23,119 sold by Lakes Region Fire. Uh, Sutin Sutin we kind of knew was going to be a 778 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:31,920 really high number and it it really was. um uh and then Toy and Fire apparatus. 779 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:36,559 So, we are kind of right now um down to two of those manufacturers. 780 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,880 They're super close pricing wise. Their specs are super close. One of them got 781 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:44,880 back a little bit late, but they are kind of probably going to be the lower 782 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:50,880 number. So, it's worth evaluating more. Um just making sure that that spec 783 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:55,119 really matches up correctly. Um, and so probably at the next meeting, I would 784 00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:01,520 really like to be coming in here with uh a sales agreement so that we can get 785 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:08,559 that truck on order again. Uh, oh, so Tuesday we will know we put 786 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:12,559 in for one of the dees grants. So we did a highway truck, I think, through a dees 787 01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:18,319 grant or at least we had looked at it. >> Um, we that there's still money 788 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:21,839 available. That grant was supposed to be completely wrapped up. I think in the 789 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:26,000 spring they still had about a million and a half dollars. 790 01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:30,000 Pretty sure I know all the grants that they've given out since. So they're down 791 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:35,520 to probably about $750,000 now. Um with the August 31st was the 792 01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:39,119 this last deadline period. That'll probably be the end of it would be my 793 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:44,319 guess. They'll probably find three places to award grants to or or five for 794 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:49,760 smaller vehicles. The max on it is $250,000. 795 01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:53,440 Um, you know, certainly the the one disadvantage, and I bring it up because 796 01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:58,960 a budget committee and a member and I have had a lot of conversations about 797 01:00:55,359 --> 01:01:04,640 it. It would kill any conversation over keeping engine two as a reserve piece, 798 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:08,000 the old engine too, which I'm not 100% sold when the new one comes that that 799 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,440 would even be a good option. If we get the DAS grant, it's not right. We've got 800 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:18,160 to punch a hole in the block and cut the frame and send it off to Steen and get a 801 01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:21,839 few bucks for it. Um, but it's 250,000. The issue is it's a reimbursement grant. 802 01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:26,079 So, I think it'll be an interesting 803 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:31,040 conversation on how what funds we apply to the purchase to make sure that we 804 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:35,359 don't screw up the the financial plans that we kind of developed here over the 805 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:39,359 last year. Um, because there's really no way to then put that money back into the 806 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:43,040 revolving fund because it has to be EMS billing. 807 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:47,440 And even if it comes from the CRF, then you've got to, you know, make that sales 808 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:52,319 pitch on the floor to say, "Hey, we we didn't plan on using this. We got it as 809 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:56,400 a grant, but let's let's return it or put it in the general fund, but then 810 01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:00,880 kind of everything gets screwed up." So, um, the warrant's an option, but then of 811 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:05,760 course, if it doesn't pass, no means no. And we ordered a fire truck 6 months 812 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:10,319 before that. So, that could be a big issue. 813 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:13,920 Um, so that brings me to uh the revolving fund and I'd like to just hit 814 01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:16,960 it really quick. There's a lot here. I wasn't planning on talking about it and 815 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:22,079 it was kind of last minute just throwing stuff on there. Um, because I think they 816 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:27,920 go hand in hand. The revolving fund, the the big concern with the revolving fund 817 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:31,440 right now is that we I knew going into this really the first five years was 818 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,520 going to be the trickiest five years. We've got to get engine 2 ordered and 819 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:39,520 paid for. We've got to get A1's replacement ordered and paid for and we 820 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,880 at least got to get the ladder ordered in that time if not delivered but 821 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:48,799 certainly ordered and so um that money needs to be there 822 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:55,920 obviously. One of the issues that we're running into which is really good is 823 01:02:51,599 --> 01:03:01,440 that um we're well down out of that four and five years that it was taken to get 824 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:07,119 fire trucks. So, one of the bids right now is uh like the max on it was 800 825 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:11,440 days. So, it will put us roughly in November of 2028, 826 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,119 you know, for like next month if we signed it this month. So, it' be 827 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:19,760 November of 2028. Well, that's all fine except if we're 828 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:24,880 not making those depos if we're continuing to make those deposits at the 829 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,079 end of the year like we've done forever, we're probably not going to have enough 830 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:34,079 money to pay that bill potentially, right? So the other issue is this. The 831 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:39,680 other one is about 600 days which would be May of 2028. I definitely know we're 832 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:43,839 going to be struggling at that point. My guess one of the questions knowing 833 01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:49,599 that that it would be asked and it's a it's an important question from a cash 834 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:52,799 standpoint is how many uh sales in the last I asked three, they gave me two 835 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:59,119 because that's kind of when the window shrunk. in the last two years have 836 01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:03,200 I didn't have to ask exceed because none of them have exceeded that timeline from 837 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:09,520 that manufacturer in particular. How many have come early? Cuz if it shows up 838 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:13,599 at 700 days and I'm we're $100,000 short in that fund. Now we're paying interest 839 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:18,480 because we can't pay the bill. Right. So, and the answer was in the last two 840 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:24,799 years about 70% they've delivered ahead of time. So my guess is in talking to 841 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:28,720 Aaron and and it seems like the big issue really is the chassis and the 842 01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:32,880 chassis time frames been moving up, moving up, moving up, right, and getting 843 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:37,119 shorter. And so now instead of, you know, 2 years to get a chassis, we're 844 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:42,960 down that quotes 12 to 14 months to get a chassis. This 600 day one's more like 845 01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:46,480 10 to 12 months to get a chassis. They're the same chassis, which means 846 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:50,480 this guy will get it early and instead of 800 days, it's going to come in 600 847 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:58,480 anyway, regardless of who we go with. So, um, my big ask on the revolving fund 848 01:04:55,039 --> 01:05:03,920 side is the way that is written up, and I I understand it says up to, and I 849 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:08,559 don't I I believe the issue with the language is it's not intended to say, 850 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,079 and you're the board, you can decide whatever you want, right? It's not 851 01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:15,760 intended to be, well, some years we could do 400 or some years we could do 852 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:20,799 300 and then some years we could do up to 500. It just sets the max. You could 853 01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:25,920 only put 500 in there. That's really the intended use of that language. The other 854 01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:30,799 side of it is it's the first monies that come in from billing revenue. 855 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:37,599 I don't really care, right? But what I do care about is in two years time we 856 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:45,839 may owe a million, you know, 1.1 maybe a little bit more for this fire truck and 857 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:50,960 $3 to $400,000 for the ambulance remount all at the same time when we have if we 858 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:57,920 continue to make the deposit $500,000 at a time in December, we're going to have 859 01:05:53,599 --> 01:06:01,200 about $1.1 million. So we can push the ambulance and that's fine. and it'll get 860 01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:04,480 more expensive, not as more, you know, much expensive. The other side of it is 861 01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:07,760 the more that that money is in that fund, the more if it's in the general 862 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,640 fund, it's getting bank interest. It's in that fund. The trustees have it and 863 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:16,079 they're doing a good job earning interest on it. So, I would I would 864 01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:20,640 really like to see us say, you know, whatever the procedure needs to be, but 865 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:25,280 um Christina and I talked about it a lot. You do it quarterly. Quarterly 866 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:30,640 still puts you kind of in a bind for the first few years. um maybe at some point 867 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:36,319 you change it to quarterly so it's not cumbers as cumbersome on on finance and 868 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:41,520 the treasurer but if you go to monthly um and you just oh we took this in last 869 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:45,839 month and now by the second meeting of February we're depositing that money in 870 01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:51,039 June and you can't necessarily say like I wrote it up as $41,666 871 01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:55,119 right that's >> an arbitrary number 872 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:59,839 » well it's 500 divided by 12 right but you you obviously can't do that cuz in 873 01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:03,039 January our receipts might be $23,000 and then we get to February and ski 874 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:08,559 season picks up and we get a lot of ragged checks and it's $65,000. 875 01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:12,720 Just take it and then once we hit 500, which we're at now, it doesn't 876 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:17,520 necessarily reflect in the books, but we're over $500,000 now. So everything 877 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:21,039 we collect now for the rest of the year is good money that can go into the 878 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,960 general fund and help offset the tax rate. Um, and then we just stop doing 879 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,760 it. And that's great. >> Okay. You know, and it paints to me a 880 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:33,200 little bit bigger picture because if you're just doing 416, you come really 881 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:37,359 close. But I know most of that 500,000 is going to be in there by May when 882 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:46,920 those bills are due, which means there's no real big issue. So that's that's the 883 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,920 high level and we can get into it. 884 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:53,599 » We don't have to keep the structure. >> Okay. Um, 885 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,920 so I guess here's the most intriguing thing that you just said, which I think 886 01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:02,400 is awesome. So we've already hit the 500 for the year, right? 887 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:05,359 » Um, so then that puts us in a positive position. 888 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:09,359 » Yes, we have. But if you're motioning to move that tonight, you can't because 889 01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:14,559 » I'm not suggesting to do that. All I'm suggesting is is I think we have to do a 890 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:18,239 better job of reporting. It's this many calls. It's produced this much. Like we 891 01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:23,520 just have to have a better way to be able to take a look at that because I 892 01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:30,480 agree with you monthly if you collected $24,682.79 893 01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:37,120 last month in in whatever my perspective it should just move and sit over there 894 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:40,960 and then it's just there. Um the things that do come to mind though 895 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:44,120 like just generically particularly about the ambulance. 896 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:49,520 I'm not saying we shouldn't have ambulances, right? So it's this it's the 897 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,000 same argument I've had before. At no point am I telling you you shouldn't 898 01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:55,279 have the equipment you need to do the job we need to do. 899 01:08:53,120 --> 01:09:00,799 » But I do think we have to be articulate in each vehicle we expected to do 900 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:05,520 roughly x number of calls. It's it we're we have that load to maintain three 901 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,839 vehicles. Mhm. >> Right. Um, 902 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:14,480 we I don't think we should just talk about the aggregate of we've got a 903 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:19,040 thousand calls or whatever whatever the number is. Right. I'm not trying to say 904 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:22,880 that because I'm I'm devaluing the things that you guys do because that's 905 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,319 not the case at all. It's more of we've got three ambulances. We we've set it up 906 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:30,560 that way to go in three different directions. And you know, even your 907 01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:34,560 explanation of the pickup truck earlier is a great one, right? because I cited 908 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:39,199 it the other day when we were talking about uh the backho for the highway 909 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:43,120 department, right? Hey, it's not quite dead yet. You know, it's almost like the 910 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:48,159 Monty Python thing. I'm not dead yet, right? Like that's the thing that I keep 911 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:52,480 hearing, right? But like, all right, we still have use, but but to have use 912 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:57,920 means there is a maintenance fee, there is fuel, there is there is just stuff 913 01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:01,679 that goes along with the thing. I think it behooves us to make sure that 914 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,400 we're justifying that we keep the things, 915 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:09,600 » right? So, I just want to make sure that as we kind of go through all this, we we 916 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,800 evaluate. So, we look at ambulance one and we go, "Okay, now we have three 917 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:17,280 vehicles. Here's the call rate. Here's how we look 918 01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:22,239 at it. They're going out this many times. They're responding this many 919 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:27,040 miles." What whatever whatever the good >> criterion is. And I say good because 920 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:32,320 sometimes what I would do is I would try to compare us to similar types of 921 01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:37,120 communities. Okay, they do these things, they have this many things, but but now 922 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:42,960 we also provide contract services to these other towns, right? Like it 923 01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:47,440 doesn't have to be perfect comparisons, but but that way that's how we bring 924 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:51,760 along people that aren't experts or professionals in the field. 925 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,440 » So like that that's the things that I keep like ring in my head. So, like when 926 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:59,280 you talk about the the pickup in particular, I'm like, "Okay, when you 927 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,000 because when you came in last year and we talked about it, I think I asked this 928 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:06,640 question last time because I think one of the explanations 929 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:10,560 was, hey, we don't have to send the engine when there's an ambulatory call. 930 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:13,520 We can send the pickup." >> Mhm. 931 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:17,440 » Did we do that? How successful was it? We did it x number of times, which then 932 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,840 saved us and puts us in a better position for the engine. You know what I 933 01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:23,280 mean? Like that kind of stuff. >> Yeah. 934 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:27,360 » So, there you go. But I I like, by the way, thank you for the table, right? 935 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:31,920 Because I think that demonstrates what we talked about last year because one 936 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,719 way or another to hit that $2 million number that you've got in the bottom 937 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:37,520 there at 2032, >> right? 938 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,800 » We were either keeping it in the general fund and sort 939 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:45,280 of squishing it around, not really seeing it, per se, 940 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:53,520 » and then going, we still need $2 million or here's how we're going to cash flow 941 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:58,719 effectively. Right? So anyway, that's that's my spiel. 942 01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:04,320 » Christina, how's the overall the general fund? What would the impact to you be if 943 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:09,760 this was done monthly? >> I think monthly is better. Um well, 944 01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:13,120 monthly or >> we'll start with monthly, but 945 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:18,239 » I think monthly is better. Um because you're you're spreading out the impact 946 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:24,719 over the 12 months instead of we wait till May. We haven't got taxes in. No. 947 01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:29,600 So, we have to give 400,000 or whatever at that time. It hits us harder if we 948 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,800 But monthly we're spreading it out and we can plan it. 949 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:37,280 » But but the thing is it's it's coming in anyways, right? Like it's sitting there. 950 01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:42,159 It means we're not borrowing against it is really what it comes out. Correct. 951 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:46,960 Cash for things is kind of what I'm getting at. 952 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:51,920 » So, right now we're using his money. His money not. we're using the money to 953 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:56,159 pay bills potentially, right? >> Um where we have we aren't we haven't 954 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:59,040 taken a tan if we don't have to take tan. 955 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:03,760 » But I get where he's coming from though because he's planning on that interest 956 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:09,360 in those accounts to be able to continue to pay those buy those vehicles. 957 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:16,560 » So I just want and I brought it up to you Scott earlier but and I I've said it 958 01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:21,679 to a few people. So the issue is I would never I I wouldn't sit here 959 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:25,280 tonight and say hey starting now we should do this monthly and get you to do 960 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:29,440 it. The big reason is right because everybody knows you set tax rate last 961 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:35,840 November and last November you anticipated that $500,000 in re or 962 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:40,800 $450,000 in revenue being there >> and that's what the tax rate was set on. 963 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:45,280 So, not like it's a huge influx or or I mean it's going to I talked about it's 964 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:49,040 roughly the 30 potentially 30. But now when you set the tax rate at the end of 965 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:54,000 this year, you're not going to be calculating that 500,000 in revenue. So 966 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,880 that tax rate should be set a little bit more appropriately. 967 01:13:55,280 --> 01:14:01,520 » Yeah. you know, and you combine that with, you know, like I said to Christina 968 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:06,719 earlier next month or later this month, there's whatever the number is, $250, 969 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:10,159 $300,000 coming in from the second half of the EMS contracts. And, you know, 970 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:15,520 splitting that between April and September helps some cash flow. So, um I 971 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:20,159 certainly again I would never have recommended to do it this year because 972 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:25,120 » cash flow issues. we would had bigger cash flow issues. But moving forward and 973 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,400 at least through that tricky period and then maybe you know we reevaluate in a 974 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,800 few years and say we could go to quarterly because the the purchases are 975 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:38,880 spread out more. But to get us through the next couple of years a system like 976 01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:41,920 that is going to make a ton of sense. >> So I think monthly is better though 977 01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:46,400 because it does spread >> eventually. I mean, but but I I agree, 978 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:50,400 right? Cuz like the whole point isn't like, oh my god, it's a light switch. We 979 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:54,480 got we're either on or off. It needs to be how do we get there effectively? And 980 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,040 it does come back to cash flow. So, it's not going to 981 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:06,640 » But we do have to decide what we're moving now. 982 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:10,159 Um, if we're going to move something now and 983 01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:13,440 » I think it'd be a good thing to move something sooner than the end of the 984 01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:17,199 year because if nothing else, you got a few extra months that you're you're 985 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:21,280 earning interest on it and and earning interest on 986 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:25,600 400,000 or whatever, whatever might get moved is a pretty significant number. 987 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:32,000 Um, yeah. I guess to to John's point too is, 988 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:36,480 you know, even if we said, "Well, let's start this in July of next year or a 989 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:41,360 little bit later." The real big one is those that first five months of 2028, 990 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,800 making sure that that all of that's there because the rest of it is the rest 991 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:49,040 of it. I don't have it I haven't factored in earning on a an annual 992 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:54,880 basis, right? So, >> anything I figured out interest on that 993 01:15:51,280 --> 01:16:00,159 fund is is annual anyway. It's just that last 5 to 6 months before those bills 994 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:05,400 come due, we need that half, so to speak, um, of that year's deposit. 995 01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:11,120 So, you know, if it doesn't happen until another, you know, if it takes another 996 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,800 month or two or we wait till we know there's 500 and then we're just doing it 997 01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:18,080 once for this year, >> I think I'm happy with it. still there's 998 01:16:16,719 --> 01:16:21,520 a good plan. >> Since we're in September and we've 999 01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:26,640 already got the 500, >> do we know roughly I mean projection 1000 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:31,520 wise what do we think is coming in between the rest of September, October 1001 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:35,520 and November and December? Like is it another 100,000? 1002 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:40,159 » You mean for just ambulance patient? I think 1003 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:44,320 » 100,000 is is would be a conservative number. I think it'll be a little bit 1004 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:49,520 more than that. Um, and we've got a pretty decent way of at least, you know, 1005 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:53,600 taking the previous year's numbers and projecting it out against what we've 1006 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:57,760 seen for increases. So, um, we're at like it's like 530 540, but again, 1007 01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:03,040 that's the number that Ingret gave me for up to the end of August yesterday. 1008 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,360 So, not all of that's been booked, right? 1009 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:09,520 » The reason I asked the question is is okay, let's just for argument sake, it's 1010 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:13,040 conservative. It's $100,000, right? So that means it's $635,000 1011 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,280 for the year. >> So we know if there's another hundred 1012 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:21,840 coming depending on how we move. We we you know we can make a conservative 1013 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:26,640 estimate and use that in our cash flow calculation. 1014 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:34,719 » Yeah. my my guess and this is just my two cents like um we maybe do some math 1015 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:41,280 with what's where with either Deb or with with Ruby and we do the whatever we 1016 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:44,000 want to move on the 17th like actually do the calculations 1017 01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:46,080 because between now and a couple of weeks I'm not sure it necessarily 1018 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,440 matters >> right 1019 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,000 » but at least you know that way we don't just sort of like pick a number out out 1020 01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:54,880 of the air. >> Yeah. 1021 01:17:53,199 --> 01:18:00,239 Yeah, because if I looked at the system right now, it's only 470,000 booked 1022 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:05,040 does, but I can see that there are some unooked deposits in the system. So, 1023 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:09,199 » and again, if we're planning on just using the number for now, 100,000 and 1024 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:14,159 you know, obviously that's conservative. are great. Then we can sort of back into 1025 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:18,560 it to figure out what's a good number to move between now and 1026 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:25,040 » probably by then too I will also come back to you to talk to you about 1027 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:30,159 um because we only have a million of the tan that we're allowed to take if we 1028 01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:34,719 need to. And um my I'm thinking we should close this tan 1029 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:38,640 out and open a new one. It's going to cost us $500 in document fees and a 1030 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:44,080 little bit of legal, but I think it would be better to have the full 1.7 1031 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:48,400 potentially that we can have than to only have a million if we needed more 1032 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:52,400 than a million. I don't want to put us in a spot that we have no money. So, 1033 01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:57,840 » yeah, >> but I should know more by the 17th. So, 1034 01:18:55,600 --> 01:19:01,600 » all right. >> Anyways, that's just my two cents on you 1035 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:06,000 may want to pick a number, but I I'd rather do the math. No, I think we we 1036 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:11,360 have we'll have the information and we can we can make that decision. 1037 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,520 » I do think the monthly is the way to go. >> Yep. 1038 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:18,239 » Well, you could. So, >> yeah. one thing. How do you uh how how 1039 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:25,040 do you feel about making that motion to approve that for starting January 1st? 1040 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:30,080 We would um issue monthly payments to the cap to the ambulance fund so that 1041 01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:35,120 it's all set for next year or do you feel that we have to make that vote 1042 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:39,199 every year? >> That'd be monthly until you hit 1043 01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:42,480 basically everything until you hit >> right. 1044 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,800 And if we had to revisit it, you can always revisit it. But I don't know how 1045 01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:50,960 you feel about I I if you're comfortable with the monthly, which I am 1046 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:54,560 comfortable. I think it's a good plan. Um 1047 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:57,600 then then we know starting June 1st we're all set. We don't have to talk 1048 01:19:55,679 --> 01:20:02,480 about it again. We just have to figure out what we're doing this year. But next 1049 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:06,880 year we just start normal. So or do you want to wait and have that discussion 1050 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:10,560 next week too? Next meeting too. >> Personally, I think we just do them 1051 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:14,560 together. That way we that way we just have one discussion of the the process 1052 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:19,840 and the number and how we get between now and the end of the year. 1053 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:22,880 » Not avoiding it. Just I want to >> just kind of think think a little 1054 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:28,239 cleaner. >> Yeah. Yeah. 1055 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:33,840 » Chief, as always, thank you. It's a it's a a lot of information 1056 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:41,440 talking about uh drinking from a fire hose. 1057 01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:48,239 All right. Uh but um it's it's well worth it and well needed. You know, I 1058 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:53,679 like you said, we you know, we bought the we were looking at buying a an 1059 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:57,920 engine u a ladder and we had a committee put together and they decided to 1060 01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:01,600 » and I and I voted for it at the time, but but you're right. It's like, okay, 1061 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:07,840 well, all of a sudden you have to make a decision. Right. Right. And uh this is I 1062 01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:13,280 think better for us to have long-term planning, long range planning and and 1063 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:16,560 all of you guys' work on that is is much appreciated. 1064 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:19,840 » Yeah. Thank you. >> Um 1065 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:26,320 so I I will just say the only other thing I have is is 1066 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:29,920 next week uh not next week, next meeting the plan is to come forward with that 1067 01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:33,280 sales agreement once we've you know hashed through all those. They did a ton 1068 01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:37,120 of it today. So, they're probably at that point, but I haven't heard any of 1069 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:41,840 it yet. So, the, you know, the next meeting, um, we'll have some stuff, 1070 01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:45,360 right? If you're going to spend 1.1 million or whatever that number is, you 1071 01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:47,840 should at least see a picture or drawing of it. So, we'll bring some of that 1072 01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:50,640 stuff. >> Well, hold on. I I brought a picture for 1073 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:54,080 you today. >> Yeah, there you go. 1074 01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:58,719 » That's it. >> Yeah, that might be our old truck. 1075 01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:02,159 » That's from the guys in River. I was down at Uber today and they were serving 1076 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:05,520 lunch right out of the pizza. The pizza on right in the back. That's awesome. 1077 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,600 » So, >> literally big fire. 1078 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:12,159 » Yeah. >> I asked uh one of the manufacturers, you 1079 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:15,120 know, a bunch of specific questions that I that I think would be interesting. A 1080 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:20,880 lot of that stuff was around the delivery time stuff. 1081 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:25,280 » Um particularly around overrun stuff, which we had started hearing was a 1082 01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:30,639 thing. They're claiming it's really not. They have no increases over contract 1083 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:34,159 price outside of change orders. Right. We really want to see a rolling tray in 1084 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:40,239 that compartment. It's going to be an extra $2,000. Um, so I have that and 1085 01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:45,520 I'll have it ready in case it gets asked. I certainly whether it's sitting 1086 01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:49,440 here tonight or between now and then, if there's something specific about the 1087 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:54,639 engine or whatever that you'd like to know, um, that we can have some prep 1088 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:59,920 time for, that'd be great. But, >> okay. Otherwise, we'll it'll mostly be 1089 01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:01,679 him talking about the engine next in two weeks. 1090 01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:03,600 » Awesome. >> Time to shine. 1091 01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:09,199 » Yeah. >> Time to do something. 1092 01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:11,679 Time to use all that sick time >> that I throw away every year. 1093 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,600 » Yeah. >> All right. 1094 01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:18,159 » Good stuff. >> Cool. Y Thank you guys. 1095 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:23,840 » Before they leave, sorry. Um, I did want to um I did, 1096 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:28,239 this is a request that had come in for weeks ago, but I actually will tell 1097 01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:34,239 everybody I dropped the ball, but I did talk to Chris and Chief today, Chief 1098 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:39,120 Bean and Chief Lurish um about um John Miller had requested going back to a 1099 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:42,480 quarterly uh quarterly session, a discussion about the public safety 1100 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:47,760 building and any of the outstanding issues on the building. So, I had 1101 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:53,120 reached out to Chris and Ben today um and um go we've got a list, but 1102 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:58,320 apparently there are some new things that we just found out today about 1103 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:02,960 during our tour, a new item. But I just wanted to touch base on some of the 1104 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:07,120 stuff that had come up in the quarterly session and then we can let 1105 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:12,960 Ben know the new item in case he didn't know. But um 1106 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:20,000 the bathroom um there had been brought up in the quarterly session that the 1107 01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:24,719 pitch was not correct pitch so it was clogging. Um what I told you at the 1108 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:29,360 quarterly session was that they had changed out the toilet to a powerful 1109 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:34,000 flush. So I have found out today that that is there's as far as we know there 1110 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:38,800 have not been any additional issues since that one time shortly after they 1111 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:43,760 moved in. Oh, okay. >> Yep. So, 1112 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:49,440 » for the record, I use it frequently. >> Well, it's gonna be all right. Well, 1113 01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:52,800 yeah. Go. >> Whatever it takes. 1114 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:56,239 » Listen, at the end of the day, it's like obviously, and you guys know this, we 1115 01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:00,800 want you to have the right stuff >> and there's a lot of lot of stuff 1116 01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:06,560 invested in there, right? You know, the sort of the the the biggest 1117 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:10,719 biggest thing that sends me sort of sideways is when we start the 1118 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:14,320 conversation with nobody's at fault. At the end of the day, the taxpayers over 1119 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:17,920 the building no matter what we do, right? So, I'm just trying to make sure 1120 01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:22,960 like we've spent a lot of money on the building. It needs to be a certain way. 1121 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:27,199 We shouldn't be accepting of a Yeah, that's that's still 1122 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:30,719 a thing. Like, you know, we should make sure it's right. That's 1123 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:34,239 » Are you guys in for the tax? >> There's some There's some issues, right? 1124 01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:37,440 There's a few things that kind of are on the list, aren't on the list or or 1125 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:41,520 things that we've talked about. There's there's phone issues that continue. 1126 01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:45,360 That's outside of the building project. The, you know, maybe the granite curving 1127 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,800 was never the right way. I think it looks great, but um 1128 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,000 » that's a separate issue. >> Yeah. So, there's some granite. You 1129 01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:56,000 might have noticed it today. That's that's out of place. That was 1130 01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:59,920 » Victor had a lot of new people last year. They didn't really start out with 1131 01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:03,440 the same plan as we had the year previous. 1132 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:06,880 » Couple of pieces got dislodged and we'll continue to to work with Victor and 1133 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:11,360 figure out getting those replaced. Not rep, but re, 1134 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:17,760 » you know, fixed up. Um, really the the the three big issues that we've had with 1135 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:23,040 that building were those ceiling units, the the heater units, um, which was a 1136 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:27,360 failure of the HVAC company that Grew and took care of. 1137 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:31,199 » All set. Um, so they're all all three of them are brand new and they've been 1138 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:34,159 converted for propane use. >> Were those through the whole building? 1139 01:26:33,199 --> 01:26:37,600 » Yeah, cuz >> So there's 1140 01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:42,080 » people didn't want to follow my plan as far as how we how we were going to heat 1141 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:48,159 the apparatus bay and they got fired up and so it smoked those ones too in in 1142 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:54,080 our side which very rarely run with that radiant heating. Um, so those got 1143 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:59,199 replaced, grew took care of it. um the floor pit the floor the drainage pitch 1144 01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:03,199 issue there which it had to be somewhere along the lines because myself and Earl 1145 01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:07,679 metal miss from the state did all the plumbing inspections and everything was 1146 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:12,080 was in the right spot at the time whatever during installation 1147 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:16,320 » um and to your point it's somebody's fault but who knows what fault it was we 1148 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:23,600 did we did you know that was the first and I will say right and Gwin may or may 1149 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:28,560 not be in business anymore but uh They that was the plan. Hey, let's try this, 1150 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:33,600 right? Cuz obviously if we, you know, buy a new $500 toilet, that's much 1151 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:37,520 better than ripping this whole thing up. >> But they were ready. If if it didn't 1152 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:41,520 work, they were going to rip that whole thing up and figure it out. And I think 1153 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:48,159 it worked fine. We haven't had any issues with it. Um, and then the one 1154 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:53,120 kind of outstanding one that that Tim has started to slash has a plan to 1155 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:59,440 address at the PD is the drainage out of the Sallyport. Um, I was never super in 1156 01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:03,199 love with how we designed that, but the police chief at the time, who was my 1157 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:07,520 cohort and figuring this out with the building background and the whole nine 1158 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:11,360 yards, said, "Oh, this will be fine." >> It probably was never going to be fine, 1159 01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:15,520 but that's how we moved forward. um it probably didn't get done even to 1160 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:19,520 the way he envisioned it, but at that point he wasn't here anymore. So I was 1161 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:25,360 like, there's a pitch to it. I guess it's fine. Um so I do think using you 1162 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:30,159 know those those I still can't think of the word that I'm thinking of. But um 1163 01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:34,320 you know just better materials for a wet environment I guess is the best thing 1164 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:38,000 you know that the plan that Tim has. I think we'll satisfy it. And I said to 1165 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,840 Christine, I said, "At some point down the road, 1166 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:47,040 we should probably evaluate what it looks like to put a drain in that floor. 1167 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:50,960 It It's not as simple as it sounds, right? Like, you know, even certainly 1168 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:54,800 pulling up a bunch of concrete doesn't sound simple at all, but you've got to 1169 01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:59,360 then get the water separator in and then you've got to get uh it out to where the 1170 01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:05,440 sewer tie is, which is basically outside of that first apparatus bay on our side. 1171 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:09,600 So, um, but if we do ever move forward with top coating it, before that, we 1172 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:15,360 will at least get a price on it because that's the time to do it obviously, um, 1173 01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:17,760 is before you throw another $200,000 in pavement on top of 1174 01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:21,199 » when it comes to the Sally board in particular, right? So, like the things 1175 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:26,000 that come to mind for me >> when it comes to the PD, the 1176 01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:30,320 justification when when I was voting for that building was like looking at the PD 1177 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,920 going, they're taking prisoners in through this area. 1178 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,639 » Mhm. >> Down into a bank, you know, all kinds of 1179 01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:37,600 trouble. >> Yeah. Yeah. 1180 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:43,040 » Now we're in an area significantly better for sure. But like if there's 1181 01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:45,040 water everywhere, there's a chance to to slip and fall. Like there's 1182 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:49,199 » Sure. >> We shouldn't allow that. And and from a 1183 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:55,440 taxpayer perspective, we should expect that, hey, we spent almost $5 million 1184 01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:58,400 for a building, it should be >> yeah, 1185 01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:03,679 » well, you know, well situated. >> Yeah. Like I some of that started with 1186 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:07,520 with the previous fella and you like Jim and he had a lot of great ideas and a 1187 01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:12,080 lot of good input to it. I just I I think he was thinking more from a 1188 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:17,760 residential usage and that thing is not a residential garage. It's it's they're 1189 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:21,360 in and out and the winter's the winter and those vehicles they're running and 1190 01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:26,800 the tires they're running, they come in with three yards of snow attached to the 1191 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:31,360 underside of them and it just all goes, you know. 1192 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:35,440 » So, I think at least short term the plan to to correct some of it will be good 1193 01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:39,520 and then, you know, long term we'll we'll figure out if we have any options 1194 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:43,280 to fix it. But that's really the one outstanding thing. You know, there's 1195 01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:48,639 sometimes you walk through there and I hate to say it, but at the end of the 1196 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:52,800 day, we only built a $5.3 million building, not the 10. You know, 1197 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:56,000 Northampton did theirs at the same time frame and they spent almost 10,000 on 1198 01:30:54,639 --> 01:30:59,600 it. And sure, you walk through there and go, "Yeah, some of the fit and finish is 1199 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,960 a little bit nicer, but it's still a very functional 1200 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:06,960 building and and that's what we needed, right? was a functional building with 1201 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:12,159 the good meeting room space with good training space and and space to kind of 1202 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:16,080 maybe not expand but at least continue to do our job and train in the apparatus 1203 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,719 bay like we can now. So >> yeah, 1204 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:24,480 » um the only thing that came up today during the tour was that the CO 1205 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:29,920 detection unit in the Sally port isn't working right correctly either. So 1206 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:35,440 that wasn't one of the things that's even on the list I got back from chief 1207 01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:42,159 theme that came up during a tour. So >> yeah, we just dealt with um yeah, 1208 01:31:39,679 --> 01:31:46,159 » is there any company and it's got to be calibrated again and 1209 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,719 » we'll probably do I'll talk to null about that. Okay. 1210 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:52,880 » He had a plan and and went, you know, they did like a train the trainer deal 1211 01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:58,480 with him on how to calibrate those. So it's probably just due for it. Yep. 1212 01:31:56,639 --> 01:32:01,440 No, Captain Normandon kind of deals with all the building stuff. So, 1213 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,880 » listen, if the from my perspective anyways, if these guys saying they're 1214 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:10,080 fine and the thing we need to figure out is the sally port effectively like you 1215 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,440 know cuz like again a non-functioning toilet like was making my head want to 1216 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:18,320 explore because I'm like that is just silly to me. Um 1217 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:23,280 then we just need to look at building maintenance and go okay you know the 1218 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:27,840 only other thing I come back to is then also okay how did we tell the 1219 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:32,239 contractors now we're way outside of it but like from the contractor perspective 1220 01:32:29,679 --> 01:32:36,960 that okay guys we you helped us put this thing in if if 1221 01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:41,600 it's pitching all over like it's pitching based on what we found today 1222 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:45,360 it's pitching all over the place not incorrectly say in one direction Because 1223 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:49,760 if it's incorrectly in one direction, you go, "All right, well, 1224 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:53,199 it's just in the wrong direction." It was a communication. It's pitching all 1225 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:58,080 over the place. And that's a I think that's a different discussion. 1226 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:01,199 » But so it sounds like that's the only real issue. 1227 01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:05,199 » Yeah. >> Yeah. And at least to to keep the 1228 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:10,639 building functional and and whatnot and not damaging it and safe. That I think 1229 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:15,600 the short-term plan is good. potentially long term it's a bigger thing and we'll 1230 01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:20,719 we'll cross that bridge and >> three and a half years. 1231 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:27,520 » Sean's gonna give um me a contact name too. Um there's a that does um 1232 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:32,400 » flooring. Thank you. Epoxy flooring that might be able they might be able to do 1233 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:38,400 some type of crown with the >> help with the drainage 1234 01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:42,560 » the pitch if they can build it up and >> Yeah. 1235 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:47,600 » Yeah. that was the cheaper long-term you got to do this now to figure it out and 1236 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:52,159 then do we look at that or you know do we look at tearing the not the whole 1237 01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:56,560 thing up but doing something with a with a better drain cuz I still think long 1238 01:33:54,320 --> 01:34:00,880 term that's best because that initial plan of well let's have it drain out the 1239 01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:04,400 front door really works at your house when you're backing into your garage and 1240 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,639 going through the main door into the house 1241 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:09,520 » the door still freezes shut though >> it well the door freezes shut and now 1242 01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:14,080 you've got basically a swimming pool ice rink in 1243 01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:19,360 February outside of the bay cuz if you know two cars were in there and you know 1244 01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:22,400 six yards of of snow and dirt cut off of them. So 1245 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:26,320 » yeah. No, it's good. We were glad to have you 1246 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:30,880 guys back again. It doesn't feel like it's been that long, but um 1247 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,960 » Yeah. >> Great. 1248 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:36,239 » Thanks for putting that together, Christina. 1249 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:41,639 » All right. I I mean it. I mean it this time. Thank you. Have a good night. 1250 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,639 Thank you. 1251 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,520 » I won't I won't let Christina keep you here 1252 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,520 » any longer. >> Yeah. 1253 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:51,239 » I won't see you tomorrow. Have a good day. Have a good weekend. 1254 01:34:52,719 --> 01:35:02,480 » Um All righty. Cleaning RFP. >> Um so 1255 01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:06,239 we didn't get uh we got three and what I did was it's under number 1256 01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:11,960 » How'd you put that together? >> What? How'd you put that together? 1257 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,960 » How do you think? 1258 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:20,320 I was like, "Do this." And they're like, "No, that's wrong. Do it. Fix this." And 1259 01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:22,880 I end up talking back and forth with it. >> Yeah. 1260 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,400 » So, but it came out. So, I really like what I did, though. 1261 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,960 » Absolutely. >> Um, so 11 A is where you see the 1262 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:36,000 breakdown of the three you and the the ones under it. Um, B, C, and D are the 1263 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:42,400 quotes that we got in. Um, we were I've got to be very careful. Um, 1264 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:49,440 we were hoping to come back with um more 1265 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:55,120 options, but we can't um if you look at the 1266 01:35:52,480 --> 01:36:00,000 annual base price, I mean granted this is going to change a little um too. Let 1267 01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:05,760 me start over. So, water and sewer. Um, I had put into this quote cleaning twice 1268 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:09,199 a week their bathrooms and and when we realized they didn't they only wanted it 1269 01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:14,480 done twice a month, I'm like, "Okay, great. I that will adjust this price a 1270 01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:17,360 little bit." Um, and but they wanted now want to add the conference room, which 1271 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:21,760 makes sense because the guys are cleaning it. So, um, so we will adjust. 1272 01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:26,880 So, there are going to be some adjustments, but this gives you a 1273 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:34,159 breakdown about annual costs. So number one is obviously the least the annual 1274 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:38,880 cost for all of the buildings that we've included. So the buildings that were 1275 01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:44,320 included in this RFP is this building um this building um twice a week they'll 1276 01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:47,760 clean it. We were also looking at um how much it would cost for carpet cleaning 1277 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:54,000 twice a year because we haven't been doing that um and the floors are 1278 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:59,360 starting to look rough. Um we uh the other building is the historic town 1279 01:36:55,600 --> 01:37:04,639 hall. We added that in because um we are cleaning it after or before events in 1280 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:09,040 order to prep for them. Um bathrooms and mainly we usually hire a different 1281 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:13,199 company to do the flooring. We are overdue if we are supposed to be doing 1282 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:17,119 that flooring every 3 years and we haven't done it but it still looked 1283 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:21,840 good. So I was trying to style a little bit. Um, 1284 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:27,119 so that included the cleaning for events while the historic town hall is open. 1285 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:29,920 Um, it also included Kelly Park. Um, we have them clean the bathroom. We have 1286 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:34,159 them do a full cleaning of the concession building when we open it and 1287 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:38,480 we have them clean the bathrooms every Thursday during concerts July and 1288 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:43,040 August. Um, just because we have quite a few people go to concerts and we don't 1289 01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:48,239 the bathrooms need to be clean. Um, especially when you have camp using the 1290 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:52,560 bathrooms um during the summer. So, and then um a full cleaning usually after 1291 01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:56,960 old home day because it is quite a mess usually after hold home day and then 1292 01:37:54,239 --> 01:38:02,320 we'll close the building down. And then um so water and sewer I told you about 1293 01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:06,239 his highway is also um doing cleaning right now and it's mainly their two 1294 01:38:04,639 --> 01:38:12,960 bathrooms. The one thing I talked them into doing was cleaning their break 1295 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:21,679 room. So that's been added. So um so the costs are there. So number one um is the 1296 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:26,480 least. Um it is the the current. Number two is the next highest and then 1297 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:30,320 number three is totally out of I'm not wouldn't they don't even have anybody 1298 01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:35,520 hired in the area. So they would hire only if they got this contract. So um so 1299 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:39,600 I wouldn't recommend the third one at all. So um 1300 01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:45,119 » the qu what's the what's the number of cleaning 1301 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:51,280 differences between the first and second one cuz the first one is basically per 1302 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:56,560 like I see like you know you get the chart of number two where you're saying 1303 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:58,400 okay it's 104 times. >> So 1304 01:38:57,679 --> 01:39:00,719 » so if you look >> so it's like so it's twice a week at the 1305 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:05,119 town offices. >> Oh yeah I did say it's twice a week. 1306 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:12,239 Yeah. Yeah, that's because it says 104, but like but CB annual 1307 01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:15,280 or Yeah. No. Or or virtuosity annual, right? Like how many times are they 1308 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:18,639 coming? Are they coming in for the same number of times? 1309 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:22,320 » Yes. They have to they were when they were bidding, it's the exact same thing 1310 01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:28,480 that I just told you was for the number of cleanings. But Virtuosity, I can 1311 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:32,080 break it down, too. They gave a per a per everybody gave a price per 1312 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:37,679 cleaning, but I figured if I showed you the annual that was probably better. 1313 01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:42,800 » Um, so they would have to do exactly the same 1314 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:49,600 num cleanings as the number one. So >> So 1315 01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:55,320 I'll I'll read between the lines and and say something appropriately hopefully. 1316 01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,320 Um 1317 01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:05,480 what is um let me think about how to say this or ask this. Um 1318 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,400 there's there's a 1319 01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:19,040 what would be accomplished or achieved that isn't being achieved by going with 1320 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:22,040 the second bid? 1321 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:30,560 » Um I don't know for sure I will because I 1322 01:40:28,719 --> 01:40:34,719 don't know how this second bid person is going to be. I did check their I did 1323 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:37,920 Google them and check some of their comments. They have a different another 1324 01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:42,880 they've only been in business three years. That's the only thing on the 1325 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:50,440 second one. Um but they had no bad comments about them anywhere that I 1326 01:40:44,639 --> 01:40:50,440 could see. Um I believe you're 1327 01:40:52,159 --> 01:41:00,719 I believe that um by taking a different a potentially a new 1328 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,159 company, you may see some different changes, 1329 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:07,400 » right? >> In versus and 1330 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:16,239 » you may see some different changes. Does sorry does the um 1331 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:20,320 » I'm sorry. Do these bids represent a different price than does that bid 1332 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:24,880 represent a different price? >> It is. Yes. So number one is higher than 1333 01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:28,800 what we're paying now. So there would be an increase in the budget because we did 1334 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:33,639 add but some of that would be booked from we did so right now we're paying 1335 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:40,800 » no that don't. So, it is higher, but it's probably 1336 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:43,520 » $3 to $4,000 higher than what we're paying now. But some of that will come 1337 01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:46,400 out of the water and sewer budget because 1338 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:49,440 » is there currently a contract or do we just have Okay, so this would have a 1339 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,320 contract saying >> this would be a contract. 1340 01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:57,520 » This is what you need to meet >> and what we try we and it doesn't mean 1341 01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:03,280 Yes, this would be there would be a contract that says this is what we need 1342 01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:06,400 to meet. Um, and we have done, it doesn't mean we have to do this, but 1343 01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:12,320 we've offered the possibility of a three-year contract. Um, because then we 1344 01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:17,440 would hold the pricing for three years. Um, except for slight market adjustments 1345 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:21,360 is what we put into it. So, >> do we have a copy of what their typical 1346 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,880 contract is? >> We're going to create the contract. 1347 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:32,080 » Good. Oh, >> I would say that given 1348 01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:37,520 given what we're trying to accomplish, I we might spend a few dollars more, but 1349 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,840 I'd rather do a year and see how that works. 1350 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:42,800 » See how it works. Yeah. >> There's because there's not there's no 1351 01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:47,840 real So, generally when you get to a three-year contract, there's generally 1352 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:51,520 probably a 10 or 15% sort of benefit. Yeah. 1353 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:55,119 » Now, there are certain things like um cleaning supplies and certain things 1354 01:42:53,119 --> 01:43:00,960 that are going up over time, right? >> We're paying for we are paying for some 1355 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:06,000 of that stuff. Part of So, the reason that I put it in for us to stock some of 1356 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:11,280 that stuff is because um we've had an issue with um smelly bags and people 1357 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,280 can't I will be honest, I bag I couldn't figure out why I kept smelling smoke. 1358 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:18,080 Yeah, >> I have a sensitive nose apparently. But 1359 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:21,199 so other people in their offices, it was the bags. 1360 01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:24,560 » Yeah. I guess all I'm saying is >> So we refused, we told 1361 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:28,480 » I agree with Sean a one-year contract. Number one, to sort of test it out. 1362 01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:31,199 Number two, to >> unless there's a good financial 1363 01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:34,560 incentive. >> Yeah. 1364 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:39,760 » And this number is going to come down some because I I have to do I do have to 1365 01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:43,760 change the water and sewer because that was in here incorrectly. It wasn't it. 1366 01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:48,159 We put it in for twice a week. We're going to adjust it to twice a month and 1367 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:52,239 be cleaning the so the conference room. So that will change, but we might be 1368 01:43:50,719 --> 01:43:56,480 able to fine-tune the numbers a little bit better, too, because we estimated 1369 01:43:54,560 --> 01:44:00,800 how many cleanings at the historic town hall based on event usage. We may not 1370 01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:07,280 need that many cleanings. >> Yeah. 1371 01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:12,159 » Um same thing with um Kelly Park. So >> I think we should look at them for their 1372 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:15,600 background. Yeah, >> your website doesn't give you that comp. 1373 01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:19,840 » It doesn't give you much. It's three years, but but he has three other 1374 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:22,320 businesses. >> That was my other concern. 1375 01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:23,840 » Virtuosity. >> Yeah, 1376 01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:28,800 » Virtuosity. >> The owner of Virtuosity has um 1377 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:34,639 » three other businesses from what I found. So, that was my own those are my 1378 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:40,080 concerns about that one. Um my concerns about number one is I think we just need 1379 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:43,600 to set some if we chose that really specific ground rules because 1380 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:47,040 » Yeah, absolutely. And I would I would even build it in that there would be 1381 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:49,840 like a threemon 1382 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:56,560 » probationary period. >> Yeah. Basically an opt out clause 1383 01:44:54,400 --> 01:45:00,880 » performance. And I wonder if that value might change too because if that price 1384 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:03,440 is estimated on what's currently being done, it's not acceptable. 1385 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,480 » Right. >> So, 1386 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,480 » right, >> that's potential. The espe during the 1387 01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,960 week, it's not acceptable. >> Yeah, 1388 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:14,800 » the weekend one is great, but >> So, 1389 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:20,159 » so that price might also change slightly. So, maybe my best bet is to 1390 01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:23,520 talk with the parties and see how their price would change. Not the number 1391 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:27,280 three. I don't think I would do anything, but 1392 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:31,040 » um talk with one and two and give them the adjustments and see what their price 1393 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:34,719 changes to and bring it back to you on the 17th. Tell them it would be a 1394 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,440 one-year contract and how would that affect their 1395 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,840 » right? >> Yep. Does that sound good to you? 1396 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,840 » Yes. >> Okay. 1397 01:45:51,199 --> 01:46:00,280 All right. Uh, welfare guidelines. >> I did send them out ahead. 1398 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,280 » Um, 1399 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:06,639 under number. So, we did have them reviewed by the 1400 01:46:04,719 --> 01:46:11,040 town's attorney and we've incorporated the slight changes that he made, which 1401 01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:16,320 were minor changes. Um, one of the things that we didn't take out that he 1402 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:20,560 recommended to take out was there was a definition of residence and there was a 1403 01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:25,280 we were going to require proof of residence. So, 1404 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:32,320 » he recommended to take that out because they he that you there is a requirement 1405 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:37,360 on emergency services that you have to provide. However, there is a new statute 1406 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:42,400 and I read through the statute with tea um the other day and I feel that we 1407 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:48,960 based on the statute we can put that leave that language in there um if about 1408 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:53,199 residency. So that's why we've left it in again that was the only thing that we 1409 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:59,119 didn't take out that the attorney recommended to take out. So, 1410 01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:06,239 but everything else very um it was just minor um correct of correction of an RSA 1411 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:12,960 um minor changes. So, I don't know how if you had a chance to go through it um 1412 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:16,800 when I sent you but um we've cleaned up the copy that's in there. There's two 1413 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:24,400 copies in there. There's a word copy with some comments on it. Um 1414 01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:30,639 » and then number 12B is the clean copy. 1415 01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:33,119 » The application is pretty straightforward. 1416 01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:37,360 » Yeah, >> she that was definitely a major 1417 01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:40,800 improvement because it went from a he like a 20 something page application. So 1418 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:45,280 » yeah, >> so if you are comfortable with moving 1419 01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:51,920 forward with this, it has been reviewed by the attorney. It has been re it has 1420 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:57,040 been incorporated sorry has been it has incorporated the changes from NHMA and 1421 01:47:54,639 --> 01:48:00,960 the new law changes and the attorney has reviewed it. So 1422 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,320 » I thought we could but I had a quick question for it. 1423 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,480 » Yep. >> Under um 1424 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:09,280 » that there >> I thought it was interesting. So uh 1425 01:48:07,119 --> 01:48:13,280 under section four roles of local governing body it basically says it's 1426 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:18,159 the select board >> repeat that I was facing section four 1427 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,080 » section four roles of local governing body which is us. 1428 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:26,080 » Yep. >> So it basically says unless the select 1429 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:29,199 board uh pro you know uh appoints somebody. 1430 01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:32,560 » So I'm assuming is that going to be t like how how 1431 01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:39,040 » she's hired as a welfare officer by you. So yes she so um What was interesting 1432 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:43,520 was it also talks about how you know that last paragraph there must be access 1433 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:46,880 to the program 5 days a week in an emergency a person has to receive 1434 01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:51,600 response within 72 hours. Yes. >> So I just I'm just 1435 01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:53,679 curious. We've got so process-wise we're all good with meeting all of that 1436 01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:59,199 requirements. >> Yes. Yeah. Um we've uh we've made we've 1437 01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:05,520 always been responsive to emergencies within 72 hours, but we do have a 1438 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:08,960 welfare phone um cell phone that um we also have. One thing we're working on 1439 01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:15,280 changing with the current phone company is that the calls right now the calls 1440 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:19,600 will not go straight through um to to Tila during the week because we say by 1441 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:22,800 appointment only. But she feels that she should be able to answer those calls 1442 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,679 Monday through Friday during the day. So we're changing that and she will be 1443 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,560 answering the calls Monday through Friday during the day. So 1444 01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,119 » Okay, >> cool. 1445 01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:35,280 » So yes, we are we are meeting them. >> All right, cool. That's it. Just the way 1446 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,679 it called up the RSA for the select board. I was like, okay, how are we 1447 01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:40,960 making sure that we're >> doing that? Right. 1448 01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:44,320 » All right. >> So good. I need a motion and you need to 1449 01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:49,199 sign. So >> Okay. Uh what to just approve it? 1450 01:49:47,679 --> 01:49:51,440 guidelines and the application. >> Yeah. 1451 01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:56,159 » Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve the guidelines and the application for 1452 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,760 the welfare process for the town of personal 1453 01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,400 » effective >> effective 1454 01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:05,280 » today. >> Okay. Uh what's 1455 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:07,600 » September 3rd se effective September 3rd 2026. 1456 01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:13,280 » All right. Second. >> Second. Okay. Thank you. Uh any further 1457 01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:16,080 questions or comments? Hearing none. All those in favor please 1458 01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:22,280 say I. >> I. I those opposed abstensions that's 4. 1459 01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:28,560 » Um >> TA report 1460 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:34,400 » number 13 is the info only report which has just three things on there. Um 1461 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:38,040 I'll let you take a look at those and see if you have any questions. 1462 01:50:54,239 --> 01:51:02,239 All right. Under the discussion items, um, 1463 01:50:59,199 --> 01:51:08,639 number one is employee appreciation. And we do that. Oh, it's funny. She told me 1464 01:51:04,639 --> 01:51:13,280 Sean's here on the document. >> We opened it. Why is it telling me Sean 1465 01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:18,639 is here? Um, so under we do every the first of 1466 01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:23,119 every month we do employee recognition for celebrating anniversaries. So 1467 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:28,159 congratulations on another year with the town of Bristol. Um, we are grateful for 1468 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:31,840 your continued dedication, positive attitude, and the quality of work you 1469 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:37,360 bring. Executive Department, we have Ruby Hill, one year. Um, I'm going to 1470 01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:44,400 skip to the next one. Fire department, Ingred Heiden Reich, seven years. Um 1471 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:49,679 Nicholas Marsh six years and um police department Harold Bulmer 1472 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:57,599 has been with the crossing guards for 24 years. So yeah 1473 01:51:52,639 --> 01:52:02,880 um TA number two there are pictures of I just it's really funny. Sorry, I just 1474 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:07,360 got notified. Everybody's here. Uh, number two, the Kelly Park sidewalk. 1475 01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:12,880 Um, second phase of the Kelly Park sidewalk has been cut in and brought to 1476 01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:17,040 subgrade for asphalt. Um, the p there are three pictures in there showing 1477 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:22,560 that. Victor is contacting GMI this week to confirm the paving when the paving 1478 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:26,239 will be scheduled. Um, we did find out um yesterday GMI was here marking down 1479 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,520 for Brook Road. >> Saw that. Yeah. 1480 01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:33,679 » So, we anticipate um the start date for both of them to be within I we think 1481 01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,560 next week, but I'm saying two to be safe. 1482 01:52:34,159 --> 01:52:39,679 » Okay. >> Um but 1483 01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:45,520 » number three, um there is a volunteer appreciation agenda in your folders. 1484 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:50,960 I've sent you your invites. I've invited um I've sent all the committees their 1485 01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:56,800 invites. Um arrangements have been made for this year's recipient to attend and 1486 01:52:53,199 --> 01:53:01,440 with some family members. Um, and then, um, I just need to confirm numbers from 1487 01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:05,520 the board. And who's the chef going to be? 1488 01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:10,480 » I I'll be there, right? What day is it? >> Um, I se Friday, September. And Dawn 1489 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:14,719 can't be there. I already know that. But Friday, September 18th. We have it. Um, 1490 01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:19,599 I did say >> no. So, 6:00 to 8, but I said select 1491 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:22,560 board members who are available to cook should plan on starting to cook at 1492 01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:24,400 around 5 or 5:30. >> Right. Yeah. 1493 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,280 » So, >> back by popular demand, Scott and I will 1494 01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:31,199 be. >> Okay. So, music has been scheduled. 1495 01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:38,719 They'll play from 5:30 to 8 because we have people arriving at between 5:30 and 1496 01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:44,800 6. Um, we are doing kind of mirroring mirror. We're kind of copying 1497 01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:49,679 the um the mandatory training barbecue. We 1498 01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:54,480 decided to we use the similar theme. >> Okay. Um, and we are going to play some 1499 01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:55,920 games with this group. >> All righty. 1500 01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:58,800 » So, >> that'll be fun. 1501 01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:04,719 » Yeah. So, um, we're going to do the table challenge, the shout out wall. Um, 1502 01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:08,320 the, uh, we're putting out some guessing games for them. Um, I thought we'd do a 1503 01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:14,480 little bit something different in the building. And, um, I can't tell you 1504 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:18,080 about the bingo game during public because I can't ruin it, but I will let 1505 01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:23,599 you know that we're doing that. We'll do the recognition. And I still need raffle 1506 01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:27,520 prizes. I've gotten some more, but I only have like five or six. And I 1507 01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:33,520 » I've got a couple. >> I reached out to some vendor. I reached 1508 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:36,880 out specifically to Stay Rooted. I reached out to the fire department and 1509 01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:41,199 police department asking for them to donate because they have t-shirts and 1510 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:46,400 sweatshirts or coins. So, I asked them to donate. Um I can't remember who else. 1511 01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:53,280 I've reached out to four or five other people I've emailed and asked if they 1512 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:58,480 would donate. So, um, we may have a potential to, which I I'll know by the 1513 01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:04,800 17th and I'll let you know, but we may have some funding to h to pay for some 1514 01:55:01,599 --> 01:55:09,520 of the food. So, if that hopefully that will go through. If it does, I'll let 1515 01:55:06,639 --> 01:55:13,119 you know that. Um, but that's pretty much it. And we don't have to clean up 1516 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:16,400 that night. We just have to put the food in in the fridge and we can clean it up 1517 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:20,639 on Monday. So, >> all right. 1518 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:24,480 » Other than that, are you all I think Scott responded he was coming, but are 1519 01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:28,400 you coming? >> Uh, I got to see. Okay. 1520 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:31,360 » I'm traveling again. I think I'm traveling that day. We'll find out. 1521 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:35,119 » Okay. >> That's the day after court. 1522 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:40,080 » Yeah, it's the day after court. >> Yeah, it's also the end of our quarter. 1523 01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:41,760 So, I got end of the month. So, >> um 1524 01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:48,320 » maybe in Boston >> transfer station stickers is next. So, 1525 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:52,560 not saying that this is pretty or not, but um in the folder there are some 1526 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:58,159 samples from other towns that I found. Um it's hard, nobody puts their stickers 1527 01:55:55,360 --> 01:56:01,599 publicly apparently, but very few do. So, and they are not nicel lookinging 1528 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:06,960 stickers, but you can look in the first folder which says samples found under 1529 01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:12,960 » um >> under TA4. It's the ACT folder transfer 1530 01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:15,199 station stickers. >> Yeah, 1531 01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:19,360 » there's about So, those are the only ones I could find. Those are types of 1532 01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:25,440 samples um that I found. So, you're welcome to look at those. And um I also 1533 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:30,719 can um found two things that I think were good ideas. Um so, if you look 1534 01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:39,239 under that folder, that folder is sample flyers and signs. So, I'm going to I can 1535 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:39,239 post it up on the screen. Um, 1536 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:48,159 I think we should put this at the So, I absent of having a sticker that scans 1537 01:56:45,599 --> 01:56:53,440 and says that you need to do that you need to have can't go through a gate. 1538 01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:58,719 Um, I saw this and I thought we should put this up before they go through 1539 01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:03,360 » the entrance. Not the same wording, but similar. So, you would say transfer 1540 01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:05,920 station permits are required. >> Does that say thank you? You're a smug 1541 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:09,840 selector. >> Yes. 1542 01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:15,000 » Is that what it says? >> I can't see here. She's a pro. 1543 01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:22,080 » Oh, John. H Oh, thank you for your cooperation. 1544 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:28,560 » Put my picture there, too. >> We should just just profile. Just a 1545 01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:33,119 sketch profile. Yeah. But the my thoughts are the colors that are valid 1546 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:37,040 would instead of this it would there would be whatever colors are valid that 1547 01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:40,800 if you don't have one of those stickers on your car don't come through or you're 1548 01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:42,960 not going to be allowed to >> you know potentially. But 1549 01:57:42,239 --> 01:57:47,440 » yeah, >> so that's I I wanted to show you that. 1550 01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:53,119 But I also thought what's the other thing? Wrong mouse. Sorry. I also saw 1551 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:58,159 this which I thought was interesting. I haven't talked to Chuck yet. Um, but is 1552 01:57:56,159 --> 01:58:02,280 it going to show? No. Stop. Share. 1553 01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:12,080 I saw this in another town. Um, that shows where the sticker should be 1554 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:16,480 placed. So, and I think the side sticker going 1555 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:20,000 into the transfer station is probably a better place to put it than on the front 1556 01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:22,719 windshield. But I don't know what truck or or the people at the transfer station 1557 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:27,920 think. But >> I don't want a sticker on my window. 1558 01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:31,199 » You be quiet. >> If it's a window that goes up and down, 1559 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,800 » you may have a problem. >> Oh, it might pull off. So, we are 1560 01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:36,960 telling them they have to fix it to their front windshield, though. 1561 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,400 » Yeah. >> So, 1562 01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:42,400 » I don't mind where it's at. I think What has Chuck complained about where it's 1563 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,719 at? >> People are 1564 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:54,560 people that going out the whole window. 1565 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:57,360 We don't have a better place to suggest though 1566 01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:01,119 stickers. >> But I thought if so if we stick to the 1567 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:04,960 front then we should do a picture like this too showing placement on the front. 1568 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:10,560 » I think it might be reasonable to let them put it up like a top corner also. 1569 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:13,360 » So we could give them alternatives. If we're going to stick to the front, we 1570 01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:17,280 show them placement >> like the right side, bottom corner or 1571 01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,400 top corner. The passenger side top or bottom corner. 1572 01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:23,760 » Okay. >> Yep. Some have a fixed window like the 1573 01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:29,040 little triangle fillet window something like that with LDS. 1574 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:32,800 » So I'm also here cuz we have to get ready to order them to ask you to look 1575 01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:36,960 at >> Did any of them say they produce them 1576 01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:40,400 themselves or are they purchasing them all 1577 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:42,000 » cuz we talked about printing them right to print them? 1578 01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,960 » Yeah. Anything on that? >> Um 1579 01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:48,960 » a lot of they have >> Was that the 13th video that I can't 1580 01:59:47,599 --> 01:59:50,400 listen to? Yeah, 1581 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:54,159 » sorry. >> It looks like a lot of your samples have 1582 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,320 like license plate number space. >> Well, so 1583 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:59,520 » and how are they putting that there? I can't believe they're all peeling it off 1584 01:59:57,679 --> 02:00:01,679 and writing on it and then giving it to you. 1585 02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:10,679 » I was going to say that's what we're doing with ours. But um so I did 1586 02:00:06,639 --> 02:00:10,679 Where's my share button? 1587 02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:27,360 So, I didn't make it perfect, obviously, but um I added the town of Bristol 1588 02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:31,280 emblem and this would be a hein. The 12 would be handwritten and the license 1589 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:34,560 plate would be handwritten, but I wanted to reach back out because I 1590 02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:37,840 know you thought it should be more should be different, should be more 1591 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:42,080 professional, but I and then this would be the Bristol one. So you can clearly 1592 02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:47,040 see the his Heburn and Bristol as they come in, which could if you're tallying 1593 02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:49,679 them, you could tally them. Um, and you can clearly see the 12th month it 1594 02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:54,400 expires. >> And Hebrew doesn't have a month that 1595 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:57,840 expires, right? It's all 12. >> Yeah. So they'd all be 12. We actually 1596 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:59,040 might be able to print all theirs age 12 then. 1597 02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:03,920 » Yeah. >> So, and but ours we would have to handw 1598 02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:07,679 write the month in. >> And the year 1599 02:01:06,239 --> 02:01:10,960 you want the year to be it would be colored. It would be colored. 1600 02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:15,840 » Okay. The whole thing would be colored. >> Mhm. I just couldn't 1601 02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:18,159 » I'm not a I just did it in Word real quick to to show you what it would look 1602 02:01:17,679 --> 02:01:21,679 like. >> Chad would be do color. 1603 02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:27,280 » I could have done that. >> Imagine if I wonder about the crystal 1604 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:30,800 colors there. And then if the whole thing is like orange or green or pink or 1605 02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:34,320 whatever color. >> I put the color seal in, but the thing 1606 02:01:32,639 --> 02:01:36,880 could be I could just that we also have black and white. 1607 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,800 » Yeah, that might be better. Yeah, I can show you what the black and white looks 1608 02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,599 like. >> If you're going to keep the color seal 1609 02:01:40,159 --> 02:01:46,080 and color this sticker, you're probably going to have to block out like a square 1610 02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:48,080 on the seal so it doesn't blend in with the color. 1611 02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:50,400 » Yeah, something like that. >> I can show 1612 02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:52,560 » or maybe just a color stripe across the bottom. 1613 02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:58,960 » I don't know >> what. So, I know it was Scott Sever that 1614 02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:03,360 was concerned about the other drawing that we had done. Is there something 1615 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:08,080 else you were thinking or just >> No, I think this was a I like this 1616 02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:14,400 direction. >> Where? Sorry, I got lost. Where is it? 1617 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:18,880 Desktop. I was going to show you the other the We have different So, here's 1618 02:02:16,719 --> 02:02:22,800 another thing. We have word mock markups, too, or mockups or whatever 1619 02:02:21,199 --> 02:02:29,639 they call them that are part of our guidelines for design. Um, let's see. I 1620 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,639 can show you all of them 1621 02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,000 here. 1622 02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:42,679 I have to stop sharing. It's blocking my screen. Hang on a second. 1623 02:02:58,639 --> 02:03:02,119 They're going somewhere. 1624 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:08,040 All right, we have 1625 02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:11,800 see if it'll open. 1626 02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:19,679 I may just leave it on the side because when I open them, it makes me stop 1627 02:03:17,199 --> 02:03:24,159 share. But so there's these are called cabin and mill icons. They're part of 1628 02:03:21,679 --> 02:03:30,560 our the design for the town, too. Um they have the black and white. They have 1629 02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:38,679 the Well, that one's white on white, but um they have the green seal. 1630 02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:38,679 We have the black seal. 1631 02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:47,119 » I think the seal might be not look good in that small image. I think we lose all 1632 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:54,560 the detail in the wires and things. >> Well, so what's really funny, um he this 1633 02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:58,159 is the prison catalog. So, we looked at their decal, their what 1634 02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:03,040 they offer. >> So, Bristol's one of the ones they 1635 02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:08,320 advertise in their their flyers, our seal. So, so they can do it. We do it on 1636 02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:10,400 the letter head, too. The envelopes, too. Yep. 1637 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,440 » I just lost >> How large are those? 1638 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:18,960 » Um, this is popular custom sizes. 2 and 12 1639 02:04:15,599 --> 02:04:25,599 in, three in, four, six, eight. So, they can do all of them. I just lost 1640 02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:29,679 something though. It must have fell out. Yeah, the other one is not pulling up. 1641 02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:34,520 Hang on a second. It's cuz I have my blackground. My background is black. 1642 02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:42,599 » Um, here I can show you this one. 1643 02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:49,520 I think I'm going to vote against the seal because I think it at the size it's 1644 02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:55,840 not going to look good. But I think one of the icon iconic kind of images Yeah. 1645 02:04:53,599 --> 02:04:59,119 » So that this is the black seal. Sorry, it took me it wouldn't show. 1646 02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:02,440 » Will be great. >> Is it all? 1647 02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:09,840 » Okay. So you do you think the markup words would be better? 1648 02:05:07,119 --> 02:05:17,520 » I think no seal. I think one of the other images like the what the 1649 02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:20,159 » because it does say Bristol down below. >> Yeah. 1650 02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:23,599 » So maybe just the Oh, here's word markup. I didn't show you those yet. 1651 02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:28,000 Hang on a second. >> I just put it in co-pilot. 1652 02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:31,520 » Go away. >> Did it design something different? 1653 02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:34,800 » Well, of course it did. Same concept. Same concept. 1654 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:39,000 » So, this one, this one I like actually. So, this might be what you're thinking. 1655 02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:48,639 Come on. So there. Yeah, you don't even need 1656 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:54,239 » So you could take the Bristol out of the below and just say 2027 transfer station 1657 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:56,960 permit and put that Bristol markup. >> Yeah, 1658 02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,239 » if you're good with that. >> I think so. 1659 02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:04,560 » Okay. >> I think that's it. It just Yeah, 1660 02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:07,119 it uses our brand >> and some of our vehicles have this on 1661 02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:10,000 them >> on the side of them. 1662 02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:14,400 » On the side of them instead of the seal. Yeah. 1663 02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:19,199 » So Okay. Are you good with So if we design I'll design I will put that in 1664 02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:24,320 and show you what it looks like and then um they'll send us a proof when and once 1665 02:06:22,639 --> 02:06:28,080 I get the proof I'll just make sure that you see what it looks like 1666 02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:34,520 » and then ask them about a printer. >> Oh yeah, I got to ask Tom about a 1667 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:34,520 printer. Let me write that down. 1668 02:06:35,119 --> 02:06:39,239 Yeah, there's got to be a print, 1669 02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:46,079 » you know. >> Worst case, do a label maker. At least 1670 02:06:44,079 --> 02:06:53,679 that would be printed on there. Stick the label on it. It would be legible 1671 02:06:49,199 --> 02:06:58,639 font like consistent white on white or clear. You get the 1672 02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:03,360 clear black lettering with clear background. So, it just goes right over 1673 02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:08,239 that white sticker. >> So, 1674 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:12,639 breathe. There's a fly in here. Um, all right. I'll ask Belly. Maybe 1675 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:17,840 what I'll do is bring try to get that information at your next meeting. We do 1676 02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:21,280 have to try and order these right right by your next meeting if we 1677 02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:26,400 are going to order them from the prison or not, but um and go from here. 1678 02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:29,199 » Okay. >> Yeah. It might be too late to do the 1679 02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:32,719 permit thing for this year, >> but if we get the numbers, we'll we can 1680 02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:35,199 put it in the budget. >> Yeah. 1681 02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:38,199 » Yeah. um 1682 02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:51,119 inside scoop. Um she's doing some really re really 1683 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:55,920 she's doing some really good work with it. I'm going to pull it up on the 1684 02:07:52,639 --> 02:08:00,320 screen. Um we there's some really interesting things 1685 02:07:57,679 --> 02:08:06,560 in here. Um, we're doing some other extra things with it as well, but um, 1686 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:10,360 computer, we'll pull it up eventually. 1687 02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:20,320 » So, I like the she's done a really nice job with the inside scoop, the colors on 1688 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:25,360 it, the the September theme. These are the our messages this month were much 1689 02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:31,440 larger than they have been, so they're in there. I'll email these out to you 1690 02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:36,639 too. But um highway department, the library, they've submitted stuff in 1691 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:42,400 here. We pictures have been in um town clerk, tax collector. One thing I will 1692 02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:47,760 announce publicly too is next week um for mainly for it's for employees. Um 1693 02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:52,320 which is a nice touch from the cemetery trustees, but the select board could go 1694 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:57,599 if they're available. September 10th um at 10 a.m. at Worthing Cemetery, the 1695 02:08:54,960 --> 02:09:02,960 cemetery trustees are doing a walk and talk event for town employees. Um they 1696 02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:07,199 will it's about an hour long introduction of the trustees, explain 1697 02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:12,239 the responsibilities of the trustees and um take a tour of the cemetery and show 1698 02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:17,679 how they clean the stones. So it's a nice touch from the trustees. Um beaches 1699 02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:24,960 issued their thank you. We will be doing the beach closeout on September 17th. I 1700 02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:30,320 have um Chief Bean, uh Cheryl Harper, and Deb Tivy coming to discuss with the 1701 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:35,199 board. Um they're concerned about another board member's conversation at 1702 02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:40,159 Corly Postcheck about day passes. Um so we'll have all those conversations 1703 02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:46,800 together. Um transfer station did hold their household hazardous waste tonight. 1704 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:50,719 Um it was 2 to 6 tonight. Um, so well we he comes in in October, so we'll hold 1705 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:53,840 and have give a report on how that went in October. 1706 02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:55,599 » Sean and I did attend. >> Yeah, 1707 02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:58,560 » it was >> busy. It usually is. 1708 02:09:57,119 --> 02:10:01,199 » You said when you first opened the line was all the way out to 104. 1709 02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:03,119 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 1710 02:10:01,679 --> 02:10:06,239 » Listen, that's good, right? Because it's just it keeps you from keeping it at 1711 02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:09,280 home and getting it done places it shouldn't be. 1712 02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:13,440 » Um, the fire department, it does introduce the um I'll show you the 1713 02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:18,400 picture. Um, these are our three interns. There's a little information 1714 02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:23,440 about them. Um, Cole Emanuel, Kaden Doherty, and Cole Mobley. Um, the 1715 02:10:21,679 --> 02:10:28,480 interesting thing is they are all from fire families. So, they're um, one is 1716 02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:33,840 the his father is the chief of the Durham Fire Department. Another one um, 1717 02:10:31,679 --> 02:10:39,119 his father is a firefighter paramedic at Windham Fire Department and another one 1718 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:42,079 is his father is serving as a Nasha firefighter. So, it's kind of 1719 02:10:41,119 --> 02:10:48,480 » that's kind of cool that they're coming from communities pretty far away. 1720 02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:55,040 » Yep. So, um we are going to be there's a wellness article in here. So, see if you 1721 02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:59,800 guys are getting some meat in your days. Non exercise activity thermogenesis 1722 02:11:00,079 --> 02:11:07,679 it's called. So, um water and sewer put um have put some 1723 02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:14,560 information in. It was neat to see the boulder, but I also thought, let me skip 1724 02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:21,520 down. This was actually neat. So, in theirs, they said, um, where is it? Fun 1725 02:11:19,679 --> 02:11:25,599 fact, look at the rates that used to be under the Bristol Aqueduct Company in 1726 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:29,040 1894. >> Wow. 1727 02:11:26,639 --> 02:11:34,079 » So, this is what Jeff put in. They were kind of cool to see. So, um, we tried to 1728 02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:42,159 make the page bigger, but so you could see the rates, but it's kind of hard. 1729 02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:46,480 Um like $6 $5 for a water closet. They called them water closet. 1730 02:11:44,639 --> 02:11:52,400 » So >> um private stables you $5. 1731 02:11:51,119 --> 02:11:57,679 » That was a lot of money. >> Yeah. Apothecary was $10. So it's kind 1732 02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:01,119 of neat to see that. Some of this I'm going to try to share out now, too. Um, 1733 02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:04,880 we're going to change the town administrator's corner to the inside 1734 02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:08,960 scoop, but we there's certain things we won't share out, but we'll put that on 1735 02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:12,480 the website. >> That's right. 1736 02:12:09,679 --> 02:12:17,920 » And then these are the next month's challenge. Can you figure out which baby 1737 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:21,520 I am? But you can't say it. Oh, actually, you can say it because it's 1738 02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:27,719 not really competition. So, there were only six that got submitted. So, can you 1739 02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:27,719 figure out which baby I am? 1740 02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:37,119 No. Number two. Two. >> I'm going to say three. 1741 02:12:34,639 --> 02:12:41,119 » Any other guesses? >> Nope. I'm number five. 1742 02:12:40,079 --> 02:12:44,960 » I'm number five. >> Wow, you're old. 1743 02:12:42,239 --> 02:12:49,840 » Hey, they No, my mother's pictures are 1744 02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:52,400 fading. My They used to style my hair like my 1745 02:12:51,679 --> 02:12:55,679 dad. >> Yeah. 1746 02:12:53,119 --> 02:12:57,679 » With the cowlick. All those awful dresses, too. 1747 02:12:57,119 --> 02:13:01,360 » Oh, I know. >> Yeah. 1748 02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:07,280 » Um, but do you remember the last time the throwback challenge? So, now they 1749 02:13:03,679 --> 02:13:11,920 tell you who's who. So, Vic, so Richard Press, row two, the fourth picture is 1750 02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:16,320 Richard Pitress. Um, Victor is row four, the second 1751 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:21,599 picture. >> I thought Jeff was up in the top row. 1752 02:13:18,239 --> 02:13:26,480 » Nope. Jeff is row six, third picture. Let me see if I can make it bigger. 1753 02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:32,239 Oops. Sorry. >> I don't think you can see it any better. 1754 02:13:28,239 --> 02:13:40,320 But so Jeff is row six. One, two, three, four, five, six. One, two, three, 1755 02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:46,320 » three. So that's Jeff. And now if you look it up close, it is Jeff. You can 1756 02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:52,159 see it now. You know, but so we thought that was cute. And then the last piece 1757 02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:57,360 to remind you um so we did do some um added some executive um based it off of 1758 02:13:54,800 --> 02:14:04,800 the theme. So Ruby's our chief corn counter. Um Tila is the keeper of the 1759 02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:10,960 pumpkin patch. Um uh Deb is the hay bale coordinator extraordinaire 1760 02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:15,360 and I am an honorary scarecrow and head scarecrow 1761 02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:21,599 and chief crow chaser. So, but um and then just a reminder if 1762 02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:26,239 you are participating in the flu clinic um check with us. If you haven't 1763 02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:30,719 registered, register because if you we're if we don't get 20, 1764 02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:32,639 » we they're going to cancel on us. So, we're only 1765 02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:36,800 » register for that. >> There's I can there's a code here. 1766 02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:38,480 » There's a QR code. It's it's on actually it's 1767 02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:39,920 » scroll down here. Right there. >> Right there. 1768 02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:45,360 » All right. >> So, September 9th, 10 to 1 at the public 1769 02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:50,560 safety building. um if you can where that's where they'll be. You can get um 1770 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:55,119 flu shot, you can get pneumonia or and you can get um COVID if that if you want 1771 02:14:53,119 --> 02:14:59,199 to. Those are the three you can get. >> Note though, if you've not gotten 1772 02:14:56,560 --> 02:15:03,119 pneumonia before, no pneumonia requires two shots. Yeah, you have to get the 1773 02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:06,800 second one six months later on your own. So, 1774 02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:12,000 » it was in that email also, but it's a link down at the bottom. 1775 02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:17,880 I can send the scoop up to you guys, too, so you can look at it better. All 1776 02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:17,880 right, let me go on. 1777 02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:26,800 Um, fireworks committee is having a closeout meeting on September 9th at 1778 02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:32,800 8:30 here. Um, I've got the small group coming in to close out the event. So, on 1779 02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:36,719 September 17th, I'll bring in um info about financials 1780 02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:42,560 um and anything that came out of that closeout meeting. Um, Pemath update. So, 1781 02:15:40,719 --> 02:15:47,199 we received from Army Corps. They're beginning to do the final edit of the 1782 02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:52,159 draft partnership agreement this month. They were been apologize that they've 1783 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:57,920 been very busy with the um summer duties. So, the archaeologist is working 1784 02:15:54,880 --> 02:16:03,280 on the on the NEPA report and has informed us um that they are currently 1785 02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:07,520 in the comment period. uh they've >> I got a comment for 1786 02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:11,520 » the com the comment period goes through 1787 02:16:09,199 --> 02:16:17,599 September 21st. Once that's done, they will be ready to finalize the NEPA cate 1788 02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:22,639 categorical exclusion. And they've also told us um they've received concurrence 1789 02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:29,440 with Shipo already and do not anticipate any any more issues, but we'll keep us 1790 02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:35,080 posted. So, one's 1791 02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:35,080 » great. And then elections. 1792 02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:40,880 I need to make sure that I have three of you there. Next Tuesday. 1793 02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:43,359 » Next Tuesday. >> Yeah, 1794 02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:44,559 » next Tuesday. I said >> the eth. 1795 02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:48,479 » The eth. >> Yep. 1796 02:16:46,639 --> 02:16:53,120 » No, you can stagger it as long as there's three there. 1797 02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:57,280 » Um, but you will have to be there at the the prefer everybody should be there at 1798 02:16:55,599 --> 02:17:01,359 the end of the day for the counting and signing off. So, 1799 02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:04,000 » I wish I had known that sooner. >> Yeah, 1800 02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:07,040 » I can do after. >> I'm so sorry. I told I mentioned it at 1801 02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:10,960 the last meeting. >> I'll be that. 1802 02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:15,599 » But Don can't be there till until 10:00. So, he will be there from 10:00 on. I 1803 02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:18,399 think this is going to be >> Oh, you know, I could probably go What 1804 02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:20,960 time is the polls open? >> 8. They're 8. 1805 02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:26,399 » So, I can probably do I can probably do 8 to 9:45 run from my 10 o'clock or I'll 1806 02:17:24,960 --> 02:17:29,519 do my 10 o'clock in the parking lot >> or do it from here. Oh yeah. Is it here? 1807 02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:34,080 No, >> the voting is here because we couldn't 1808 02:17:32,399 --> 02:17:39,359 get the high school. So voting is here in the historic town hall for September. 1809 02:17:36,639 --> 02:17:41,439 » Um this parking lot is no parking for us. 1810 02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:45,519 » Yeah. So I'll work upstairs. >> So you can come work upstairs 1811 02:17:44,319 --> 02:17:47,439 and I'll go back and forth with you. Okay. 1812 02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:50,519 » I'll book the room for you. >> All right. 1813 02:17:50,880 --> 02:17:57,200 » Okay. Cuz I have a 10 to 12. >> All right. 1814 02:17:55,200 --> 02:18:02,559 » And then two. So, even if you can't be there the whole day, just if you So, we 1815 02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:07,359 um Cheryl is gonna um take care of the coffee and breakfast. Um we're ordering 1816 02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:11,599 sandwich platter. >> Oh, well then I'll be there then 1817 02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:14,639 » for lunch. Um we just we're So, Deb's going to order it tomorrow and we'll 1818 02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:18,399 pick it up Tuesday and then we're ordering 1819 02:18:16,719 --> 02:18:21,519 » it's probably going to be a Hannerford sandwich platter. 1820 02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:30,240 » So, >> and then we'll be ordering pizza. 1821 02:18:25,439 --> 02:18:33,599 vouchers for the vouchers for the shot. >> No, you don't. You won't need it because 1822 02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:35,840 the town is >> No, you need your insurance card. 1823 02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:41,160 » Okay. >> You guys would need your insurance card 1824 02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:41,160 usually, but 1825 02:18:41,679 --> 02:18:51,080 » the town it's covered under our stuff. So, but I Well, that's a question in the 1826 02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,080 future. Do we want to 1827 02:18:52,559 --> 02:18:58,399 do we should find out how much they are and if that's something we want 1828 02:18:57,439 --> 02:19:05,280 » covering. >> Um so I just need um any preference on 1829 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:10,639 where we order the pizza from. Um we are not none of our staff will be parked 1830 02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:15,840 here. Do you feel there's a need for a driver to drive people anywhere? Okay. I 1831 02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:19,120 just want to make sure. Um, the only thing that will be parked here will be 1832 02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:24,240 the town car. We're going to leave that there, but we will all be parked either 1833 02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:30,479 at the church or other places in town. Um, I've already sent that info out to 1834 02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:34,160 the department and to our building. Um, and then 1835 02:19:32,639 --> 02:19:39,479 I don't know what else. I think that covers it because we don't need to do 1836 02:19:35,679 --> 02:19:39,479 anything else. Just 1837 02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:46,719 » this will be the this will be the first election in 1838 02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:49,920 20 or 30 >> without years 1839 02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:55,120 » with a new >> Yep. Rob 1840 02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:59,040 » Rob was here today testing the ballot. >> So Rob was testing the ballot machine 1841 02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:03,760 today because that's one of the requirements saying hazing event. 1842 02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:08,160 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 1843 02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:12,800 So yeah, um they've already set up the highway's already set up um the building 1844 02:20:10,880 --> 02:20:18,080 because especially with the long weekend, so they've set it up already. 1845 02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:24,479 » Um I've actually given some of the drinks from the be if I have to I'll 1846 02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:27,200 I've given them all the chips and so you'll have all the chips and I've given 1847 02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:31,200 them some of the drinks from the donations for that event. Whatever's 1848 02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:35,680 left, they'll leave for the volunteer appreciation. 1849 02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:40,960 » Fire department has some left. Ah, I have I actually have plenty left. I 1850 02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:46,080 was surprised. So, all right. Um, on my other list real quick. 1851 02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:51,120 » Oh, going back to transfer station stickers. 1852 02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:56,479 Um, John, I'm throwing you under the bus a lot. So, sorry. But John had 1853 02:20:53,680 --> 02:21:00,880 previously talked about not charging for stickers. I needed I need and I think 1854 02:20:58,960 --> 02:21:06,240 that we need to have that quick discussion tonight um to decide if we're 1855 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:09,920 leaving everything status quo or not because um 1856 02:21:08,479 --> 02:21:11,520 » otherwise we got to change policy, right? 1857 02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:16,479 » We've got to change policy. >> So listen, I'm not saying right now all 1858 02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:22,240 my only point was is why poke people in the eye twice mainly because it's like 1859 02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:27,600 we're doing that. I'm totally fine we leave it be for for now and we kind of 1860 02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:30,800 look at that next year. Good. Like that. >> I mean, how much do we spend on 1861 02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:36,240 stickers? >> Um, Hein pays for their own. Um, and 1862 02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:41,359 they actually, what Cheryl told me today is they have order 800 stickers. Hein, 1863 02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:45,760 » what we pay for stickers? >> Um, I have to look, but last bill I 1864 02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:50,640 thought it was $1,200. >> Well, we collect basically like my point 1865 02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:54,640 was we collect basically like $12,000 or $15,000, 1866 02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:58,960 but it's a $400,000 budget line item. We don't, it's not like we we do cost 1867 02:21:57,200 --> 02:22:04,319 recovery and stickers. That's that was my point. Like I feel like because the 1868 02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:08,080 entire bill is then distributed against all of Bristol, 1869 02:22:06,319 --> 02:22:13,880 everybody should get a sticker. You want a second sticker, then I'm totally fine. 1870 02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:13,880 Like have 1871 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:19,680 » So he runs a different story, right? Like like that's that's different 1872 02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:23,760 because that allows us to to >> No, I I I get where you're going. That's 1873 02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:28,160 all that other than that because we do charge for solid waste to get rid of 1874 02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:30,880 that. >> But you'd be eliminating that from 1875 02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:33,359 income. >> Yeah. 1876 02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:35,359 » Correct. >> But 1877 02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:38,080 » it would be another thing you'd take out of revenue 1878 02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:44,160 » because if we did cost recovery for stickers, it would be like $160 a 1879 02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:48,000 sticker. That's what you'd pay, >> right? So, so for that matter, let's 1880 02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:52,720 just, you know, you just start doing the math. So, anyway, it's all good. I'm 1881 02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:56,080 selecting the mill ones to charge 160, >> right? Let's 1882 02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:59,600 » let's make it 175. >> Let's keep thinking about it for next 1883 02:22:57,439 --> 02:23:04,479 year and because it might be a really fun message people a good message. Any 1884 02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:10,560 there's no cost to get your sticker. It's easy. It's quick. 1885 02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:14,800 » You're still paying for it. >> Yeah, you're going to make up that in 1886 02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:18,720 the tax, right? Yeah. So, so anyway, so the bottom line is I'm totally good, but 1887 02:23:16,960 --> 02:23:22,479 it's I'm just trying to like it's like everything else the budget discussion, 1888 02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:25,120 right? Like it's it's what's the process? How do we decide? What's the 1889 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:29,120 budget? >> That's all. 1890 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:32,240 » I think we didn't tell Cheryl that the account numbers changed. So, I think 1891 02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:36,840 we've been booking them wrong all this time. I'll fix that. 1892 02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:44,960 Maybe we do it at the same time we'll put up a new song or we have a new 1893 02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:48,399 what a reinvention of the >> We don't we don't need to complicate to 1894 02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:52,080 complicate matters. >> Okay, I'm going to put that on hold 1895 02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:57,680 then. Um I'm going to put it I just got an email 1896 02:23:55,760 --> 02:24:01,840 from Lakes Region Planning Commission asking they're going to host a 1897 02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:06,720 Brownsfield meeting on October 6. So Brownsfield grant they have money. Do we 1898 02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:12,080 have any So my question would be do we have any properties that we 1899 02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:17,040 I know that when we did the mil when we did the Eagle Scout Park that was a 1900 02:24:14,319 --> 02:24:18,960 Brownsfield issue at the time. >> Steve, did you have something that you 1901 02:24:18,479 --> 02:24:22,960 wanted? >> Sorry. 1902 02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:26,960 » Oh no. Yeah. Go. >> I can stop and you can 1903 02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:33,200 » Yeah. Yeah. Actually well Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Um, uh, I was 1904 02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:39,600 going to ask the going way back to the beginning of the meeting about the, uh, 1905 02:24:35,359 --> 02:24:43,280 Steve Moore. Thank you. >> I was going to go back to the beginning 1906 02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:48,000 meeting about the the choice of the asbestous remediation. I was trying to 1907 02:24:46,080 --> 02:24:52,319 follow that discussion. >> Did, but did you go with the $7,500 bid? 1908 02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:56,319 Was that what I heard? >> 6500. 1909 02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:58,800 » 6,500. Have you done due diligence on the people who are doing that when 1910 02:24:57,840 --> 02:25:01,840 you're getting rid of them? >> Yeah, they they're a local they're a 1911 02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:04,640 local contractor. They're out of Bristol. They do a ton of demolition 1912 02:25:03,920 --> 02:25:07,920 work >> and asbestous. 1913 02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:10,560 » Yes. That's not stuff you just want done. 1914 02:25:08,479 --> 02:25:14,319 » No, that's that's part of their their >> That's great. That's 1915 02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:18,640 » the name of the It's always wrecking. So, they do do this as 1916 02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:21,760 » Okay. As long as you Yeah, because low bids and that sort of thing could be a 1917 02:25:20,399 --> 02:25:25,439 huge mistake. Yeah. >> Um, second is the concern people may 1918 02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:28,800 have about the thumb stickers. They're too large. You might want to consider 1919 02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:31,920 going with something smaller that might get less push back. I don't know. 1920 02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:34,080 » That's fair. >> Thanks. 1921 02:25:32,479 --> 02:25:39,040 » That is a good comment. The reason we went with the larger was at the request 1922 02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:45,680 of the employees because it was really >> it was really hard to read the 1923 02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:50,240 expiration or and if they and they have to get right up on the 1924 02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:51,680 » We might be able to go smaller though if font. 1925 02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:54,960 » Yeah. >> Right. And if 1926 02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:59,120 » if it's going to be a you can't get in without the sticker because there's some 1927 02:25:57,200 --> 02:26:03,120 sort of >> gate situation. It doesn't matter 1928 02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:06,880 anymore being able to see it. >> So, this is the size now. 1929 02:26:05,439 --> 02:26:08,960 » I was going to say maybe we have some better eyes there, but we probably 1930 02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:11,520 don't. >> You might just want to think about that. 1931 02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:14,720 I mean, you guys are working. >> I think this size is probably We 1932 02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:17,760 probably can't go much smaller than this. 1933 02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:21,040 » Well, I wouldn't go larger, though. >> I wouldn't go larger either. 1934 02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:25,200 » No, that looked larger in the picture, but I think it was just cuz I was 1935 02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:30,479 drawing it in word. I think this size the transfer station really wanted to 1936 02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:33,200 stay with this size. But but I wonder >> it is a good question. 1937 02:26:31,439 --> 02:26:35,520 » We'll take we'll take it under. >> Yep. 1938 02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:37,040 » Well, just that probably is the push back you're getting. 1939 02:26:36,479 --> 02:26:43,920 » Yeah, >> they're too big. But um 1940 02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:49,200 uh I wanted to tell you the town square is really spiffy this summer. You guys 1941 02:26:46,399 --> 02:26:54,160 have done great work there. Taking down that place and opening it up is a huge 1942 02:26:52,399 --> 02:26:57,920 benefit. It's a much better grade. Also, it's a nice little advantage. I just 1943 02:26:55,439 --> 02:27:04,880 wanted to mention that. Um, and I can't think of anything else. 1944 02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:09,040 I thank the chief for quick work on the roundtop fire, which was great. 1945 02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:10,960 » Um, that's it. 1946 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:13,120 » Thank you. >> No, thank you very much for your 1947 02:27:12,479 --> 02:27:15,439 flexibility. >> No, thank you. 1948 02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:17,520 » Take care. Have a good night. >> We don't want to discourage 1949 02:27:16,399 --> 02:27:19,359 participation. >> Okay. 1950 02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:22,800 » Have a good night. >> You too. 1951 02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:26,720 » Yeah, he took it. >> Maybe some of us 1952 02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:30,800 » here. I know that we do nonpublic sometimes at the beginning of the night 1953 02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:35,920 is because we want to make sure that employees can get home too, but do we 1954 02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:40,080 want to reconsider that at some point or just keep and move it to the end of the 1955 02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:43,359 night so that people can get them public? 1956 02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:45,200 » Maybe we add a we add a general public comment 1957 02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:54,560 » at the earlier. >> Yeah. Um probably I would think um 1958 02:27:50,319 --> 02:27:58,560 maybe after the idea >> after any of the normal stuff like what 1959 02:27:56,640 --> 02:28:04,200 would that be? Sent agenda >> or minutes after we take care of that 1960 02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:04,200 stuff. 1961 02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:13,040 » So after do the pledge the non-public the consent agenda the regular agenda 1962 02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:17,439 items before the TA or before the regular agenda items? I think before the 1963 02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:21,520 regular end because someone just >> wants to come and say their piece about 1964 02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:25,760 something else and then we can have one at the end too with a you know someone 1965 02:28:24,319 --> 02:28:28,800 sat through the meeting and they want to talk about something. 1966 02:28:28,319 --> 02:28:35,840 » Yeah. >> Okay. 1967 02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:41,359 Um, so this is a grant that we can apply for. Um, and they they are hosting a 1968 02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:45,120 meeting to talk about virtually that I can go attend, but I didn't know if you 1969 02:28:43,359 --> 02:28:48,800 still had any. So, it just said Bronzefields are vacant, abandoned, 1970 02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:52,960 underutilized properties where presence or potential presence of hazardous 1971 02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:57,840 substance pollution or contaminant makes redevelopment challenging and costly. 1972 02:28:55,760 --> 02:29:03,040 » So, do they have to be town owned properties? I don't think so because I 1973 02:28:59,920 --> 02:29:09,280 think we've talked about um let's see says that um the per this 1974 02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:12,800 meeting will update everyone on the status of current grant. We still have 1975 02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:16,960 money left to spend and what type of work is available. We will work on 1976 02:29:14,960 --> 02:29:22,399 brainstorming and identify potential Brownsfield sites with your communities. 1977 02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:29,439 LRPC is in the process of developing an application and then the 1978 02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:32,560 manage distribute. So, I think they they would manage and distribute the funds, 1979 02:29:30,960 --> 02:29:36,160 but it doesn't sound like it has to be a town. So, I can attend the meeting and 1980 02:29:34,399 --> 02:29:40,720 then come back if if because it doesn't say when the grants would be due, but 1981 02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:49,600 » I think it's really easy to go on to the dees website and do a uh onetop query. 1982 02:29:44,880 --> 02:29:54,560 » Let me see. uh in the for the town and you know I I was actually just looking 1983 02:29:51,359 --> 02:29:58,640 at some stuff yesterday um 1984 02:29:56,240 --> 02:30:00,880 » cuz I know that the post office parking lot was a brownfield scale site but if 1985 02:30:00,399 --> 02:30:07,760 we're not doing >> anything along the Yeah. Instead of the 1986 02:30:04,319 --> 02:30:14,160 » um but maybe if we're going to do some redevelopment of um our 1987 02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:18,160 » Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, that' be a good 1988 02:30:14,880 --> 02:30:21,680 » or the or along the bike path by just north of the park. 1989 02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:26,319 » Yep. >> Okay. And the bike path just north of 1990 02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,920 Oh, that's right. Because we talked about there, too. Okay. 1991 02:30:27,359 --> 02:30:30,920 » Yep. >> Okay. 1992 02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:38,240 » You know, cuz I was just I just did a quick search. R&D paving has got some of 1993 02:30:36,319 --> 02:30:39,600 this like in Franklin. >> Yeah. 1994 02:30:38,479 --> 02:30:43,680 » It's kind of interesting. >> Yeah. There's quite a few places 1995 02:30:41,760 --> 02:30:47,680 throughout the state still that haven't had anything done with them. I mean, our 1996 02:30:45,680 --> 02:30:53,600 biggest one was the Micro building where the Micro building was the park was, but 1997 02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:57,120 okay, that's that one. Um, >> basically any place that ever had dry 1998 02:30:55,760 --> 02:31:01,760 cleaning >> or or an old 1999 02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:06,880 » or a gas station like the library property was because we had that old gas 2000 02:31:04,720 --> 02:31:10,800 station and then window place before it went away. 2001 02:31:08,479 --> 02:31:14,240 where the library parking lot is used to be a gas station. Yeah. 2002 02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:18,960 » And then a window. >> They got rid of the gas station and then 2003 02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:24,080 it was a window something but and then that got torn down. But um I've gotten 2004 02:31:22,479 --> 02:31:29,680 um feedback from the attorney on short-term rental finally. Um he 2005 02:31:26,399 --> 02:31:35,439 apologized profusely. I will have that um not until your October 1 meeting 2006 02:31:32,319 --> 02:31:39,520 because I have Jo Joann's scheduled for October 1st. Let me make sure I have 2007 02:31:38,479 --> 02:31:43,040 that right. >> One of the things that actually uh I 2008 02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:47,040 don't have that right on that subject and actually was brought up by a by a 2009 02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:50,640 town resident that your next meeting. Sorry. 2010 02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:55,840 » Okay. To redtown resident to me was okay. If you don't do licensing fees 2011 02:31:53,200 --> 02:32:00,120 then you could do an inspection fee for the for the fire department. 2012 02:32:02,399 --> 02:32:09,439 Um he he said that um he's got some comments and suggestions 2013 02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:12,800 concerning the most recent draft which was the last thing that we talked about 2014 02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:15,760 what we wanted to do. >> Okay. 2015 02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:20,240 » But as discussed many times before, the town must be very careful to narrowly 2016 02:32:18,319 --> 02:32:22,800 tailor this process to only addressing life safety issues rather than trying to 2017 02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:26,000 incorporate. >> What I was told was Meredith has a whole 2018 02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:28,880 process in place. >> Yeah, I'll look we'll look at that. 2019 02:32:28,399 --> 02:32:32,800 Yeah, >> but we should be able to bring this back 2020 02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:35,359 and we'll check Meredith before we come back. 2021 02:32:33,280 --> 02:32:41,840 » Did Did you have a chance to speak with that other res or resident 2022 02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:46,640 » that I mentioned to you >> about this that has a place in Florida 2023 02:32:44,960 --> 02:32:49,680 that would be willing to talk to? >> No. 2024 02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:52,640 » Tell you or tell us like what they do in Florida. 2025 02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:55,200 » Did you give me a number to call? >> I give you a name. I'll tell you when. 2026 02:32:54,399 --> 02:32:59,280 » I don't Okay, >> I'll tell you after. I'll 2027 02:32:56,399 --> 02:33:01,520 » after. Yep. if it was August 13th. No kidding. 2028 02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:02,960 » And now's probably a good time. Now that summer's ended, it's probably a good 2029 02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:06,000 time. >> Okay, perfect. 2030 02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:13,359 » The other thing that we got to try to talk to land use and ultimately probably 2031 02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:18,080 the planning board for is uh ADU definitions 2032 02:33:15,359 --> 02:33:26,560 and short-term rentals because I don't believe that our intention is to try to 2033 02:33:22,399 --> 02:33:32,880 have ADUs that are short-term rentals. ADU is fine. All good. Like like we need 2034 02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:38,240 housing for family members. Even if you intend to have an ADU and rent it out. 2035 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:42,399 » Do you remember Scott if anything was being addressed with ADUs and it wasn't 2036 02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:44,160 this year, right? >> Cuz I think we got to get something on 2037 02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:46,319 the >> Oh, no. Which Scott is on the planning 2038 02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:48,080 board. >> I am. 2039 02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:53,040 » Thank you. >> So, we're 2040 02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:55,200 we decided not to do anything about that new yurt thing. 2041 02:33:54,319 --> 02:33:58,640 » Yep. >> Right. just pronounced the town the 2042 02:33:56,880 --> 02:34:01,760 state now allows us to >> yurts are allowed as residents I think. 2043 02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:05,920 Yep. Okay. >> And so we're just punting on that. No 2044 02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:09,120 one's we can you know we can decide something to make that change. We don't 2045 02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:14,800 have to. >> And then we're look I believe we're 2046 02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:17,680 proposing to reduce the minimum square footage required for an edu. 2047 02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:21,840 » Yes. >> I I guess I guess I'm I'm thinking about 2048 02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:24,160 the not about short-term rentals specifically. 2049 02:34:22,479 --> 02:34:27,280 » No, but I mean think about the chart for a second. We basically say these are the 2050 02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:32,960 zones that short-term rentals are allowed in when that was all concocted 2051 02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:39,600 and worked out. ADUs weren't a thing, >> but ADUs are on the chart now. 2052 02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:44,960 » Right. So, my point is is do ADUs have >> So, ADUs were a thing, but we didn't 2053 02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:49,520 allow them and except for specific rules. What what I'm saying is is should 2054 02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:56,160 the chart be uh amended to say ADU short-term rentals 2055 02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:59,200 like like a category? So that way you don't have to get into the square 2056 02:34:57,439 --> 02:35:03,920 footage and the this and the right because I think when we get into oh it's 2057 02:35:01,439 --> 02:35:07,840 a year it's not a year it's a this. we're gonna drive ourselves nuts 2058 02:35:06,160 --> 02:35:13,600 » versus going, you know what, you can have ADUs all day long, but ADUs have 2059 02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:17,760 » just add a category because then you could say they can exist category 2060 02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:21,520 because those are uses. So, you would have to have a zoning amendment and 2061 02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:26,080 you'd have to pick what districts you're allowing it if you're changing it. So, 2062 02:35:23,600 --> 02:35:30,560 anyways, that's that to me is the >> that's the thing because I I you know, 2063 02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:34,560 in in the spirit of all the law changes, it's all about addressing long-term 2064 02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:39,520 housing, >> but it isn't well, the spirit is 2065 02:35:37,439 --> 02:35:43,359 addressing long-term housing, but it really doesn't address long-term 2066 02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:45,200 housing. >> Sorry, 2067 02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:50,319 » I'm not going to argue that point one way or the other. I'm saying the spirit 2068 02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:55,840 of it is that if again sort of you go back to the all of the pieces from like 2069 02:35:53,120 --> 02:36:00,399 all the budget discussions we end up short-term rentals have just become 2070 02:35:58,319 --> 02:36:04,960 harder I think for us. It doesn't allow us to build our base and when you look 2071 02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:08,880 at the population changes in town over the last 10 years that would just make 2072 02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:13,680 it more complicated. Hang on. >> So, um, 2073 02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:17,439 yeah, accessory dwelling unit isn't even on here, which is problem. 2074 02:36:16,399 --> 02:36:20,240 » Isn't on where? >> It isn't on the chart. 2075 02:36:19,600 --> 02:36:23,200 » Yeah, >> should be. 2076 02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:27,280 » I think it's being added, isn't it? >> Is it Is it being added? 2077 02:36:25,359 --> 02:36:31,359 » Okay. >> Um, we'll double check, but it should 2078 02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:35,840 because it's not on the chart currently. >> I don't think, 2079 02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:40,560 » but it was now the the code. We're We're definitely modifying the language. Yes. 2080 02:36:38,479 --> 02:36:42,800 » To match what the state requires and you have to basically if you're allowed to 2081 02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:44,880 have a house, you're allowed to have an EQ. 2082 02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:48,000 » Yeah, that's correct. So, so there's no I mean from my perspective, I'm not 2083 02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:53,439 trying to fight that. >> I'm trying to I'm trying I'm trying to 2084 02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:59,040 enable what they're asking for which is housing so that we can have folks that 2085 02:36:56,560 --> 02:37:03,600 want to move into town in a reasonable manner versus 2086 02:37:01,120 --> 02:37:06,720 just about short-term rentals. Yep. >> Can I clarify that though? You say 2087 02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:10,720 you're trying to get people who want to move into town for housing. You don't 2088 02:37:08,800 --> 02:37:11,600 want them to be used for short-term rentals. 2089 02:37:11,200 --> 02:37:17,800 » Correct. >> Okay. Can Can you legally restrict them 2090 02:37:14,800 --> 02:37:17,800 though? 2091 02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:23,520 » That's I guess that's a question we would have to check on. 2092 02:37:22,319 --> 02:37:27,920 Um >> I guess I guess if we had a mechanism 2093 02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:31,680 that we were saying ADUs are allowed here and here, whatever whatever we 2094 02:37:29,840 --> 02:37:35,280 would have them before, >> I was thinking the same. They're not 2095 02:37:33,359 --> 02:37:40,240 they're not listed as unall allowable uses cuz they're now with the new law. 2096 02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:44,640 They're pretty much allowed everywhere. Um but we do have a section regulating 2097 02:37:43,200 --> 02:37:47,760 what size they are. >> Okay. Anyways, that's it. That's what I 2098 02:37:46,960 --> 02:37:50,880 was thinking about. >> Okay. Sorry. 2099 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:55,280 » I I was just hoping we could get them to add that to their list of things to 2100 02:37:53,359 --> 02:38:00,160 consider, >> you know, and how does that work in the 2101 02:37:57,040 --> 02:38:04,720 master plan? Anyways, >> um 2102 02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:09,520 Joe Julian actually is coming next the next meeting September 17th. So I will 2103 02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:16,120 do the bring the short-term stuff back then and hopefully we will 2104 02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:16,120 also have an MS1 at that meeting. 2105 02:38:16,399 --> 02:38:24,399 Um >> looks like we are allowed to regulate 2106 02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:26,479 shortterm rentals via zoning and via permits. 2107 02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:29,760 » Yes. >> And even 2108 02:38:28,399 --> 02:38:34,399 caps it looks like. So yeah, there's all kinds of stuff we can do. 2109 02:38:32,800 --> 02:38:39,680 » That's interesting. We can cap the number the number of nights an owner can 2110 02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:42,680 rent a year. >> Interesting. 2111 02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:52,880 » I mean, the point is is short-term rentals drive investment decisions. Like 2112 02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:56,000 I'm I'm buying the investment property >> versus a family who's trying to move. 2113 02:38:54,880 --> 02:39:01,840 That's all I'm saying. >> Yeah. No, it's there's a balancing act 2114 02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:07,439 for us being the an economy that's driven by the lake and and the 2115 02:39:04,880 --> 02:39:13,280 environment. That's all. >> Not trying to shut anybody out. 2116 02:39:09,280 --> 02:39:18,160 » I also received um a notice to vacate documents from the attorney for the 2117 02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:20,800 property. Um I'm having it served, but I haven't talked to the police chief yet. 2118 02:39:19,520 --> 02:39:26,560 So, I'm having the police department serve it hopefully next week. Um we do 2119 02:39:24,319 --> 02:39:32,640 have to first step is to do the notice to vacate and have it served which would 2120 02:39:28,399 --> 02:39:36,240 show official record of service. Um so I will get the letter signed. 2121 02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:38,640 » Does that does that have a time frame on the 2122 02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:43,439 » Yeah, it says once the letter is fully complete with all the necessary 2123 02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:50,560 information. Um it goes on. Sorry, fil by the letter. It would be 2124 02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:56,319 if um if the occupants do not vacate, I have to notify the attorney after the 2125 02:39:52,399 --> 02:40:01,200 deadline has passed in the notice. So, I think he is recommending 2126 02:39:59,439 --> 02:40:06,479 I think last I checked this it was a 30-day 2127 02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:09,680 Yeah, it's 30 days. So, so if we serve it next week, it won't be until 2128 02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:15,200 » October. >> October. But at least that we're now 2129 02:40:12,640 --> 02:40:20,240 we're moving forward. Um he did apologize profusely that this fell 2130 02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:26,319 through the cracks for him. Um so but he got me three things that were overdue 2131 02:40:22,160 --> 02:40:32,080 this week. So good news. Um his there was a question that came from 2132 02:40:29,359 --> 02:40:35,520 our H&H 2133 02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:39,760 were the people for the bridges, right? So, um, this says, "In our meeting, I 2134 02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:44,240 believe Sean mentioned that the town has historical documentation. Could you 2135 02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:48,880 please connect this? They've introduced me to a person named Carly. Um, to get 2136 02:40:46,960 --> 02:40:54,560 access to this information." Was it the historical society or was it 2137 02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:58,399 » Which bridge were we talking about? >> Um, 2138 02:40:56,479 --> 02:41:03,760 it doesn't say. Well, it says Bristol 43429 project. That doesn't 2139 02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:07,760 » It's the It's the South M. The South Main. It's the South Main version. 2140 02:41:05,600 --> 02:41:10,920 » Yeah. Okay. I was just referring to what was in 2141 02:41:11,120 --> 02:41:17,600 um Muskro's history. >> Okay. 2142 02:41:14,720 --> 02:41:23,120 » The different generations of which is available on internet archive 2143 02:41:21,600 --> 02:41:27,080 and surgery. >> I'll send that to her. 2144 02:41:29,840 --> 02:41:39,680 » And then I think that just went out. I think that's it. Let me 2145 02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:45,280 just double check one thing. I sorted them by select board here. Um 2146 02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:49,280 I did think it was nice to share this comment. Um old home day was this 2147 02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:54,000 weekend. It looked great. And let me that mural when you came down from the 2148 02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:57,680 elementary. I went through the elementary school cuz the parking was so 2149 02:41:55,760 --> 02:42:03,760 full. I parked over here and walked down. when you came across and saw the 2150 02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:09,280 park and saw that mural, it was like, "Holy cow." 2151 02:42:06,399 --> 02:42:14,080 But so this person was a vendor and um said um they just wanted to take a 2152 02:42:11,439 --> 02:42:18,880 moment to say a huge thank you to it's to Les and everyone who helped at the 2153 02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:22,560 first Old Home Day. Um everyone involved in putting together such a wonderful 2154 02:42:20,399 --> 02:42:27,040 event. We had an absolutely fantastic time being part of Bristol Home Day. The 2155 02:42:24,960 --> 02:42:31,120 event was so well organized. The community was amazing and we truly 2156 02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:36,080 appreciated being welcomed as a vendor. It was such a great day for for them and 2157 02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:38,800 we incredibly grateful for all the hard work that went into making it such 2158 02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:41,200 success. So >> nice. 2159 02:42:39,359 --> 02:42:46,720 » So it was really nice. Um they would love to come back. Um and we may 2160 02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:51,439 consider them for the fireworks. So but >> pictures looked awesome. 2161 02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:53,840 » Yeah, they it was nice. So >> looked like there was a low turnout for 2162 02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:58,080 uh the car >> cars. I thought so too. the car, but I 2163 02:42:56,000 --> 02:43:01,520 met three cars headed to Plymouth. So, I was wondering if there was something 2164 02:42:59,359 --> 02:43:07,520 going on that direction >> because on my way down, I met them all 2165 02:43:04,000 --> 02:43:10,720 headed that way. So, but um I that's it. 2166 02:43:08,960 --> 02:43:17,040 » How do the golf carts work out? >> I reserved I don't know. 2167 02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:21,439 » I reserved um to call it Columbbo, but I don't have the golf cart. Um they only 2168 02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:25,600 had one. We only sent one down um because Dan had a different golf cart 2169 02:43:23,439 --> 02:43:28,720 that he was using, too. So, as far as I know, they worked well. So, 2170 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:31,720 » I did see it buzzing around. >> Yeah. 2171 02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:37,520 » What >> was that? You're on your list. 2172 02:43:34,960 --> 02:43:42,000 » No. No. >> You sound 2173 02:43:39,840 --> 02:43:45,840 I just know they've been a sore spot for a couple for a couple of folks. I didn't 2174 02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:47,760 I didn't know if you were poking the bear. 2175 02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:49,920 » No, I did not. I was not aware of the sore spot. 2176 02:43:48,560 --> 02:43:51,680 » Yeah. >> Wow. 2177 02:43:50,479 --> 02:43:54,640 » You're going to have to tell me that after. 2178 02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:58,880 No, it's no secret. >> Sorry. 2179 02:43:55,600 --> 02:44:02,880 » Oh, for for the story. Oh, >> no. Just that we bought them. 2180 02:44:00,479 --> 02:44:08,720 » Oh, we do need to talk about Right now it's booked to contingency. 2181 02:44:04,960 --> 02:44:13,279 » Um but I looked at I um >> there might be some money in the 2182 02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:18,640 fireworks fund after, but no money left out of the Warren article. So, um so we 2183 02:44:17,279 --> 02:44:28,160 can decide if we're going to leave it under contingency fund or not. Um, even 2184 02:44:22,479 --> 02:44:32,240 if we did leave it, we still have um, we don't have to make that decision 2185 02:44:29,359 --> 02:44:35,240 tonight, but we still have contingency. 2186 02:44:35,680 --> 02:44:42,800 I have one thing to finish paying, which is the downtown plaque. He's It's 2187 02:44:40,240 --> 02:44:47,439 supposed to be um, installed short soon. Once it is, I'll let you know. But based 2188 02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:51,520 on that payment, I still have to pay um, we still have $13,250. 2189 02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:54,880 Okay. >> Um I had to book all of the golf cart 2190 02:44:53,680 --> 02:44:57,840 maintenance to it. >> Yep. 2191 02:44:55,520 --> 02:45:03,680 » Um and the downtown plaque and then we approved the Z monitor and then the 2192 02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:06,160 purchase of the golf carts. So, but Okay. 2193 02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:10,160 » All right, Scott. 2194 02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:16,319 Uh the other thing I have is what's going on at Kelly Park behind the 2195 02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:18,800 softball field. There's no fence up the project. 2196 02:45:17,120 --> 02:45:22,479 » No, they were redoing the the hill. >> Oh, receding the hill. Yeah, the hill 2197 02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:24,479 took a beating during the soft fall season. So, 2198 02:45:23,760 --> 02:45:28,240 » okay. >> Yeah, 2199 02:45:27,040 --> 02:45:30,319 » now's a good time of year. >> Yeah, 2200 02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:36,000 » some grass. >> Okay, I think that's it. 2201 02:45:33,359 --> 02:45:42,720 All right. Um, >> I think we're going to also go out to 2202 02:45:38,960 --> 02:45:47,200 RFP on the lawn care provider. >> Thank you. I was going to bring that up. 2203 02:45:44,560 --> 02:45:50,160 » Um, we did have a conversation. I did tell him that I didn't believe he was 2204 02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:54,000 doing the work. and that he needed to put signs out 2205 02:45:52,160 --> 02:45:58,000 because he hasn't been putting signs out and he's been sick. So, 2206 02:45:56,080 --> 02:46:01,439 » well, and some other Yeah. >> So, yeah. Um, that was on my list. So, 2207 02:46:00,880 --> 02:46:02,560 thank you. >> Yeah. 2208 02:46:01,760 --> 02:46:05,600 » Yep. >> It was brought someone else in town 2209 02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:09,279 mentioned >> that did look so great. 2210 02:46:07,200 --> 02:46:13,439 » Um, it does it looks better than last year, but um last year everything was 2211 02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:18,000 burnt brown, but >> No, not Yeah. Like are they also doing 2212 02:46:16,720 --> 02:46:20,160 the square >> like with the treatments and stuff? 2213 02:46:19,840 --> 02:46:23,279 » Yes. >> Yeah, that needs 2214 02:46:21,120 --> 02:46:27,760 » and this build so they do this building the Eagle Scout Park 2215 02:46:25,279 --> 02:46:34,279 » the square historic town hall supposed to be being done. 2216 02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:34,279 » Yeah. So I I agree that should go up. 2217 02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:39,920 » Excuse me. >> Did we discuss Are we going to do we 2218 02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:44,080 have any projects for more? Is there anything that we're going to propose? 2219 02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:47,520 Um, I think there's a there's a couple that I have in mind, but we haven't 2220 02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:50,800 discussed anything. >> Not yet. We we usually do that right 2221 02:46:49,840 --> 02:46:55,279 after budget. >> Yeah. Okay. 2222 02:46:52,160 --> 02:46:59,200 » But, um, I am I don't have anything specific coming from department heads 2223 02:46:57,120 --> 02:47:03,040 yet, except for the normal capital reserve stuff. Um, 2224 02:47:01,200 --> 02:47:06,560 » but this building, depending on what you want to do, is one of them. So, 2225 02:47:05,359 --> 02:47:13,840 » um, >> and then if we do go out to if we get 2226 02:47:09,760 --> 02:47:17,439 the RFPs done, um, we're also >> kind of cross my feet at the 2227 02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:22,000 » I did. >> Um, if I do, we are talking about RFPs 2228 02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:26,000 on the phone system because we continue to have some issues. 2229 02:47:23,359 --> 02:47:31,760 » Um, and that will require an upfront cost. So, um, to do phones, last time it 2230 02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:37,200 cost us, if I remember correctly, $10,000 upfront and we only paid $280 a 2231 02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:40,720 month. But, >> okay. 2232 02:47:37,520 --> 02:47:44,319 » But it's time because we did this. It we talk about doing some of these things 2233 02:47:42,319 --> 02:47:52,160 five to six. It's been longer than that. We did that phone system in 200. 2234 02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:55,680 » Yes, we moved in here in 19. So, we did it in 2018. 2235 02:47:53,279 --> 02:47:59,359 » All right. So we can >> 2018 we bought these phones. 2236 02:47:57,600 --> 02:48:03,920 » We talked about that a bunch but like there's a hundred ways to to skin that 2237 02:48:03,680 --> 02:48:06,720 right. >> Yeah, 2238 02:48:05,359 --> 02:48:10,640 » especially when we talk about all the issues that the police have fire like 2239 02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:13,359 still have a phone issue like that makes zero sense. 2240 02:48:11,120 --> 02:48:19,800 » They um they've resolved most of it except for two things. So, the delay and 2241 02:48:16,800 --> 02:48:19,800 the 2242 02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:24,560 the delay and the captain's phone isn't working again for some reason. So, 2243 02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:30,000 » huh, >> those are the two things that we've got 2244 02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:34,319 it resolved to down there. Um, but they seem they're the only ones not the only 2245 02:48:32,800 --> 02:48:37,680 Let me rephrase that. They're the ones that seem to be having the biggest 2246 02:48:35,600 --> 02:48:42,560 issues. So, but >> Okay. 2247 02:48:40,399 --> 02:48:46,960 » Okay. Um, I got I got three things, but I'll try to make it fast. One of them is 2248 02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:54,240 um when Victor comes in, I would like us to 2249 02:48:49,359 --> 02:48:59,279 if we can maybe think about the what questions because we said that 2250 02:48:56,640 --> 02:49:04,720 during the vote of the over the backho we said we re you know it would be 2251 02:49:01,359 --> 02:49:08,479 revisited in a year. How do we what are the things that we want to make sure 2252 02:49:07,359 --> 02:49:12,479 what what are the questions that we're going to revisit is I guess the question 2253 02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:15,120 right. So, I'd like to make sure that we sort of at least give them a heads up 2254 02:49:13,920 --> 02:49:19,200 and say, "Hey, let's have that discussion." What is what does success 2255 02:49:17,120 --> 02:49:23,760 look like if you if it then stays? So, that's one. Um to Christina, I don't 2256 02:49:21,920 --> 02:49:25,600 know if you can quickly share it or >> Oh, yeah. 2257 02:49:24,319 --> 02:49:30,720 » that there's a >> I did drop it in the file. So, I think 2258 02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:33,120 it's Let me look. So, there's I I sent Christina 2259 02:49:32,399 --> 02:49:37,040 um >> it was in it was in last week's meeting, 2260 02:49:35,120 --> 02:49:40,640 but we never got to because not last week's meeting, the last meeting because 2261 02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:44,479 it was a long night. >> So, so um basically it's about the lake 2262 02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:48,479 level, >> right? So, in talking to Greg and 2263 02:49:46,560 --> 02:49:53,600 talking to some other folks, they're definitely seeing some of the uh tourist 2264 02:49:51,200 --> 02:49:57,040 stuff sort of tail, you know, fall off a little bit, right? It's anecdotal at 2265 02:49:55,439 --> 02:50:01,040 best right now. There's not like there's hard data, but 2266 02:49:59,120 --> 02:50:04,080 I mean, all you have to do is look at community and you you see a whole bunch 2267 02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:06,160 of people complaining about a hole in their boats. 2268 02:50:04,960 --> 02:50:08,720 » Well, when the boats come out of the water, they're not buying gas. They're 2269 02:50:07,520 --> 02:50:14,319 not going to the stores. There's a bunch of stuff that they're not doing. So, 2270 02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:19,040 basically what that report shows is Dees has said that they use what's called the 2271 02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:24,080 1982 curve to manage the lake level. >> Okay? And we've been below the curve all 2272 02:50:21,200 --> 02:50:28,000 summer and it and it started really in June. What I'd like to do is this is not 2273 02:50:26,319 --> 02:50:31,840 about telling dees that they did something wrong because I do believe 2274 02:50:29,520 --> 02:50:36,479 honestly that when you look at all the information that's there. They're 2275 02:50:33,439 --> 02:50:41,279 definitely trying to maintain a level. But basically early in the season a lot 2276 02:50:38,800 --> 02:50:44,240 of water was let out and then we we didn't haven't gotten any rain to make 2277 02:50:42,800 --> 02:50:48,720 up the difference. >> Okay. Right. 2278 02:50:45,279 --> 02:50:53,279 » So if we're managing to that curve, how do you recognize it sooner on the front 2279 02:50:51,200 --> 02:50:57,200 end? Because as the as the season goes on, you have more headroom to manage it. 2280 02:50:55,359 --> 02:51:00,319 You you have more ability to let stuff up. You have no ability to to bring more 2281 02:50:59,680 --> 02:51:04,720 in. >> It's in your folders now under number 13 2282 02:51:03,040 --> 02:51:08,960 select board item. >> So, um 2283 02:51:06,399 --> 02:51:13,279 » anyways, all it is is a report that shows you uh rainfall. I tried to do 2284 02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:19,120 rainfall um the curve compared to the height by 2285 02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:23,680 middle of the month. Um, so anyways, I I would like us if it's at all possible to 2286 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:29,120 figure out how do we communicate with with dees. I'm not sure I'm not sure the 2287 02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:34,479 best mechanism to do that to be honest. >> Um, Greg Wagner did say to me today he 2288 02:51:32,720 --> 02:51:40,479 said you guys should also reach out to NLA. So I'm happy to do that because um 2289 02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:44,880 he said between NLR fishing game and everybody there was they have had a lot 2290 02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:48,640 of discussions around the lake levels too. So they may have some good input. 2291 02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:52,240 Again, this is not about putting the state on their heels or telling them 2292 02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:58,080 that they need to pick a new methodology. 2293 02:51:54,160 --> 02:52:02,960 However, it is evidence of two years in a row that the methodology that you said 2294 02:52:01,040 --> 02:52:05,040 you're using, we're not really tracking to, 2295 02:52:03,680 --> 02:52:09,439 » right? They haven't met. >> So, so, so how do we how do we find 2296 02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:12,880 middle ground? Because one of the primary questions, you'll see it on the 2297 02:52:10,880 --> 02:52:17,680 front page, is if you take a look at the current lake level, we're basically 2298 02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:22,080 almost 5 weeks ahead of schedule. That's taking an entire month out of a 2299 02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:23,840 boating season that isn't very long to begin with. 2300 02:52:22,720 --> 02:52:28,000 » Right. >> So anyway, 2301 02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:32,399 how long ago did they have that discussion? They I remember they had a 2302 02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:38,640 form I think wasn't it in Bridgewater? >> Yeah, it was the town. 2303 02:52:35,359 --> 02:52:43,520 They actually they took they did that me they wrote a report they sent it in the 2304 02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:47,920 US reviewed it sent them back a denial about changing it 2305 02:52:44,960 --> 02:52:52,800 » it got appealed and then I think they got a second denial 2306 02:52:50,640 --> 02:52:56,000 » which I shared those documents with John when he was doing this 2307 02:52:54,080 --> 02:52:59,520 » I'm not suggesting >> but the state change it 2308 02:52:57,359 --> 02:53:05,120 » the state itself had a had like a two-year period where they said we're 2309 02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:11,279 you know we're changing the way we manage it to see if it works. And then 2310 02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:13,439 at the end of that, they went back to the 2311 02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:16,960 » to the 1980s way, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. So again, I'm not 2312 02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:21,520 looking for something different. I'm looking for that to 2313 02:53:18,399 --> 02:53:24,240 » I also think as probably as good as it, you know, it used to be the guy came to 2314 02:53:23,439 --> 02:53:26,720 the dam. >> Yeah. 2315 02:53:24,960 --> 02:53:30,880 » And made an adjustment >> and and left and then he came back a 2316 02:53:28,880 --> 02:53:35,520 couple days later and now everything is automatic. So no one is there, 2317 02:53:32,880 --> 02:53:38,240 » right? They don't see the lake. Y they >> they just see 2318 02:53:36,880 --> 02:53:44,720 » I just I given >> dial on a on a screen. 2319 02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:49,279 » Given our dependence locally, >> we need to figure out how to be engaged 2320 02:53:47,600 --> 02:53:54,000 in a different way. That's all that's really all I'm saying. 2321 02:53:51,520 --> 02:53:56,160 Um yeah, 2322 02:53:55,200 --> 02:54:00,080 » number one. >> No, that was two cuz the first one was 2323 02:53:58,240 --> 02:54:03,200 highway. The second one was >> Yeah, those two. 2324 02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:07,120 » Uh on the highway. Can I um would the 2325 02:54:05,120 --> 02:54:09,840 requirements document be something that you would potentially have? 2326 02:54:08,720 --> 02:54:12,880 » I mean, we could we could use that to flush out. Look at the end of the day. 2327 02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:14,880 All I'm saying is is like >> what are our metrics that we're trying 2328 02:54:14,399 --> 02:54:20,160 to >> That's it. Is it number of hours? Is it 2329 02:54:16,720 --> 02:54:23,359 number of job? I I'm looking for us if we're saying we're going to evaluate 2330 02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:26,640 something at a at a future date, we're going to try this out and see what it 2331 02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:29,680 is, then we should >> How much more did we get done versus 2332 02:54:28,319 --> 02:54:33,040 what we spent? >> Right. 2333 02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:36,640 » Right. Or did and or did the budget go up because of gas or fuel or whatever? 2334 02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:40,640 Yeah. >> Whatever the appropriate criteria. 2335 02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:44,399 » If the budget goes up >> if you overspend 2336 02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:46,000 » 20% not the whole budget but the budget for that machine. 2337 02:54:45,359 --> 02:54:49,760 » Right. >> But we got twice as much done 2338 02:54:48,080 --> 02:54:52,240 » then. Yeah. Exactly. 2339 02:54:51,279 --> 02:54:57,520 » Yeah. >> Right. But if it's 60% and 10% right 2340 02:54:56,479 --> 02:55:01,040 » that it doesn't work >> right. Because if you take today's hours 2341 02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:02,319 and then okay, we think we're going to use it this much. 2342 02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:04,800 » Yeah. >> And then tomorrow's hours is really only 2343 02:55:04,080 --> 02:55:07,279 10 more, >> right? 2344 02:55:05,760 --> 02:55:08,640 » What was the operating cost, >> right? 2345 02:55:08,000 --> 02:55:15,200 » By hour. >> Yeah. 2346 02:55:10,479 --> 02:55:20,000 » Something to that effect. Um >> Oh, EDC was the last one. So Christine 2347 02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:24,800 and I went back and forth >> um last week about a potential grant and 2348 02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:28,560 we ultimately decided to not >> I thought it was that note. I couldn't 2349 02:55:26,319 --> 02:55:33,120 figure out what that note was. Sorry. >> Okay. So, we ultimately decided to not 2350 02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:37,600 push it. And it was really because it was like, okay, how sort of back to the 2351 02:55:35,600 --> 02:55:42,560 budget discussion, how does how does this help us downtown do development? 2352 02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:46,319 How does it fit into the master plan? Because there's already the um what was 2353 02:55:44,560 --> 02:55:51,680 it the 73? What? >> So, we are downtown. We already have the 2354 02:55:48,160 --> 02:55:56,160 79E revitalization district. So what this was is an opportunity zone which 2355 02:55:54,160 --> 02:56:00,560 would bring investors in. >> But when we started looking at it, we're 2356 02:55:57,920 --> 02:56:02,880 like, well, where where do we have that we could bring in 2357 02:56:01,359 --> 02:56:07,120 » where the investors, right? >> Which of the properties 2358 02:56:04,800 --> 02:56:10,960 » like there was a lot of stuff and it was like 2359 02:56:09,279 --> 02:56:15,680 it the juice didn't seem worth the squeeze, right? So So ultimately we we 2360 02:56:12,880 --> 02:56:19,840 we passed. But um I just wanted to bring it up so you guys a knew the EDC is 2361 02:56:18,080 --> 02:56:24,800 trying to like figure out way to do some of those things but then you know we're 2362 02:56:22,240 --> 02:56:29,600 also trying to apply pressure to go okay just because we can doesn't mean we 2363 02:56:26,640 --> 02:56:36,240 should. So like whether it's a piece of equipment or a a grant like same rules 2364 02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:39,520 apply like how does it fit? So anyways there you go there's my three things. Go 2365 02:56:38,479 --> 02:56:46,240 ahead. >> Did Bruce Dunner was asking about the 2366 02:56:43,760 --> 02:56:49,920 d the second draft discussion that he made changes to. 2367 02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:52,319 » Were we supposed to bring that here or wait until 2368 02:56:51,120 --> 02:56:55,840 » uh he didn't tell me. I haven't >> heard it on the email. 2369 02:56:53,520 --> 02:57:00,319 » Okay. I he he sent me a text. He wants to get a a drink and talk, but I'll I'll 2370 02:56:59,439 --> 02:57:02,880 talk. >> Okay. 2371 02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:06,240 » And because we can bring it to the next meeting. 2372 02:57:03,279 --> 02:57:09,279 » Y sounds good. >> Got nothing. 2373 02:57:06,880 --> 02:57:15,120 » No. Okay. Just a couple quick things. Um, out of the blue, a couple of kudos. 2374 02:57:11,840 --> 02:57:19,680 Out of the blue, got a text from a non resident taxpayer. 2375 02:57:17,680 --> 02:57:24,800 Hey, just some positive info. Just went to the Bristol. I'm going to say dump, 2376 02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:29,520 but it's the transfer station. Every one of those guys were helping everybody. 2377 02:57:26,960 --> 02:57:35,600 Incredibly clean. Best I've ever seen. The dump work and cleanliness. You 2378 02:57:32,560 --> 02:57:42,800 should be pleased. So, please pass that along. Um, also, uh, I heard from a 2379 02:57:40,319 --> 02:57:50,319 couple of different folks. Just kudos to land use office. Um, and I'll single 2380 02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:56,560 I'll single her I'll single her out. Uh, uh, special kudos to Ashley who is just, 2381 02:57:53,840 --> 02:58:01,680 uh, doing a great job being being the face of the town uh, for folks that are 2382 02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:08,640 that are coming there trying to do things. So again, just, you know, 2383 02:58:07,279 --> 02:58:12,479 they always hear the negative, but they don't always hear the positive. So, 2384 02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:16,000 » I want to pass that along. >> Um, 2385 02:58:14,479 --> 02:58:20,399 I don't know if anything's going to come of it. Um, 2386 02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:26,000 I won't go into the whole story, but I found out I did find out that the dam 2387 02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:29,760 bureau is looking at which properties they should continue to 2388 02:58:27,840 --> 02:58:36,080 own and which properties they shouldn't. So, I did send them a email as a member 2389 02:58:34,160 --> 02:58:40,560 of the select board and the conservation commission about properties along the 2390 02:58:37,760 --> 02:58:45,439 river. I have not received a reply yet, but I'm going to follow up a phone call. 2391 02:58:43,520 --> 02:58:51,920 Um, who asked was it? Somebody asked Oh, no. 2392 02:58:48,479 --> 02:58:55,920 It's Donna about the, you know, the dam. It's um Fenberg that owns that. So, I'll 2393 02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:58,920 I'll talk to her. Yeah. >> Right. 2394 02:58:59,120 --> 02:59:07,200 I'll keep everyone updated on that. Hopefully, something does, but 2395 02:59:04,880 --> 02:59:12,640 » I think they should just give it to us. >> Yeah. 2396 02:59:09,520 --> 02:59:16,880 I did speaking of the comments um I did speak with someone who didn't have a 2397 02:59:14,960 --> 02:59:21,760 good comment but one of my comments back to them was assessing and land use is a 2398 02:59:19,040 --> 02:59:25,920 thankful thankless position. I said they're not often that the you're ever 2399 02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:29,760 going to hear anything good come from that. I said I'm not trying to make 2400 02:59:27,600 --> 02:59:32,800 excuses for them but you have to and this person agreed. though. But 2401 02:59:31,840 --> 02:59:36,240 » yeah, but >> yeah, it's a it's a tough position to be 2402 02:59:34,640 --> 02:59:42,399 in, but >> um I think given everything 2403 02:59:39,760 --> 02:59:47,600 » that we expect of them, I I think the office does a does a great job. Donna, 2404 02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:52,000 Joanne, everyone in that office, Mike, everyone 2405 02:59:49,760 --> 02:59:58,560 does a great job. >> So, just wanted to pass that along. 2406 02:59:56,000 --> 03:00:03,200 » I think that's what I have. Can I have two se uh two seconds at the end for a 2407 03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:04,479 non-public comment? You just remind me. >> Sure. 2408 03:00:03,600 --> 03:00:06,240 » Okay. >> Sure. 2409 03:00:04,880 --> 03:00:09,920 » Other than that, >> public comment. 2410 03:00:08,479 --> 03:00:14,319 » Okay. >> Okay. But is this I I actually speaking 2411 03:00:12,560 --> 03:00:19,920 of the setup, I don't think this is good either because my screen is if I'm 2412 03:00:17,840 --> 03:00:24,560 looking at something >> everyone can see, then I'm like, okay, 2413 03:00:22,399 --> 03:00:28,800 that's not going to work. So, I will have to set something different. But 2414 03:00:26,640 --> 03:00:31,760 » yeah, I mean, oh, whatever. Yeah, thanks. 2415 03:00:29,279 --> 03:00:36,000 » We we we still the reason we keep and so everybody knows who might be watching. 2416 03:00:33,600 --> 03:00:40,000 Um, we're trying to set this up for the potential improvements that we've got to 2417 03:00:37,600 --> 03:00:43,760 do this run before the end of the year. So, we've got the sound improvements 2418 03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:48,000 that we approved to encumber the money from last year. 2419 03:00:45,279 --> 03:00:53,760 So, in order to we have to find what works safetywise, which um and what 2420 03:00:50,880 --> 03:00:58,160 works for people to be able to talk and watch the screen because we're not 2421 03:00:54,960 --> 03:01:03,520 putting another TV in and for us to be able to be heard for CAD stuff to also 2422 03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:06,240 be heard on Zoom because that's been our biggest complaint has been people can't 2423 03:01:05,680 --> 03:01:12,000 hear. >> Yeah. Um, so that's why I keep shifting 2424 03:01:09,680 --> 03:01:16,160 a little, trying to test other spots. But, um, today I was like, hm, he's 2425 03:01:14,560 --> 03:01:21,520 sitting right behind me. I'm not looking at anything non-public, but 2426 03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:25,040 » camera's right behind you, too. >> Yeah. So, that's my con. I was like, 2427 03:01:23,359 --> 03:01:29,680 that was too far away. I couldn't run the screen that far away with this 2428 03:01:27,439 --> 03:01:32,319 setup. With the new setup, I was going to switch that, but they're still behind 2429 03:01:31,279 --> 03:01:38,240 me. >> Unless, but then I'm backwards to the 2430 03:01:34,960 --> 03:01:42,640 TV. Oh man. >> Until we get the new 2431 03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:46,399 » mirror. Yeah. I'll have it sticking out from here. 2432 03:01:44,720 --> 03:01:48,720 » You guys were arguing with the two TVs in here, but that's a different thing. 2433 03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:50,640 » Yeah. >> So 2434 03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:53,680 » So if you're presenting from your laptop, you shouldn't need to see the 2435 03:01:52,319 --> 03:01:58,080 screen that well. >> Well, if so, I have to check and make 2436 03:01:56,399 --> 03:02:00,479 sure it shares. That's the pro. Sometimes it doesn't. 2437 03:01:58,800 --> 03:02:04,000 » You need to be really close to it to see that it shares. 2438 03:02:01,359 --> 03:02:06,399 » Yeah. So, I could turn I could keep my back to the TV and just look at my 2439 03:02:05,840 --> 03:02:11,120 computer >> over here facing that way. 2440 03:02:07,760 --> 03:02:15,279 » Oh, I can't run the m when I need to run up here. I can't run the mouse for 2441 03:02:13,120 --> 03:02:20,720 anything on that computer up front if I need to. So, sometime I have to 2442 03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:25,920 hopefully I don't have to use it hardly at all during the meeting, but 2443 03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:28,960 » we'll deal with that later. >> I have to allow myself to be able to 2444 03:02:27,680 --> 03:02:33,760 share >> um start the meeting. But if I do that 2445 03:02:31,920 --> 03:02:38,399 all before the meeting and then allow myself to share, we could go back here. 2446 03:02:36,640 --> 03:02:41,920 » But >> my whole side panel I was like, "God, 2447 03:02:40,640 --> 03:02:46,399 I'm going to have to sit like this the whole time. 2448 03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:50,319 » We can put you in the hall. I'm sure we can get you a long range wireless 2449 03:02:48,240 --> 03:02:53,279 mouse." >> PC. 2450 03:02:52,479 --> 03:02:58,720 All right. >> Okay. Motion motion to adjourn. 2451 03:02:55,439 --> 03:03:03,760 » No motion nonpublic >> uh pursuant to 91A, A, B, and C. 2452 03:03:01,760 --> 03:03:08,880 » Second. >> Uh just for clarification, it's 91 A3 2 2453 03:03:08,080 --> 03:03:11,359 A B and C. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. 2454 03:03:10,720 --> 03:03:14,319 » Uh >> at 9:10 p.m. 2455 03:03:12,640 --> 03:03:19,560 » Call I. Okay. See you.