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Good evening and welcome to the Brockton

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Public School Committee meeting. Today

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is Tuesday, October 6, 2026. It's

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currently 700 p.m. and we are gathered

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at the George Rumlow Theater at Brockton

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High School 470 forest staff Brockton,

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Massachusetts 02301.

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Dear visitors, welcome to a meeting of

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the Brockton School Committee. This is

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the agenda that will be discussed this

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evening. Please note that hearing of

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visitors is included. If you have a

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statement or question, please give your

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name to the secretary. We have some

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people that have signed up. In addition

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to attending, the public can view this

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meeting via television on Comcast

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channel 8 and 1071 HD version and online

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via this link

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wwwd.youub.youtube.com/thebroton

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channels. I do call this meeting to

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order. I'll establish a quorum. Miss

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Santeo

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>> here.

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>> Miss Oliver

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>> here.

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>> Miss Azac

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Pina

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>> here.

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>> We do have a quorum. Um, we'll move on

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to agenda item two, which is the hearing

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of visitors. I'll read the following

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into record. Pursuant to school

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committee policy, each person requesting

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to speak shall be allotted a maximum of 3 minutes since this period

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is limited to 15 minutes. A total of

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five people shall be permitted to speak

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on first come first- serve basis. Um, I

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think we have a swap. So, the first

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person to come up is Matt Stanton. Good

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evening, chair, members of the school

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committee, superintendent, and members

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of the community. I'm here tonight not

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only as a parent, an educator, and a

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taxpayer, but also as someone who has

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the priv who's had the privilege of

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serving on this very school committee

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during difficult times such as COVID,

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the George Floyd era, and a significant

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district budget crisis. Having served in

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this capacity, I understand that public

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service is not easy. Governance requires

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difficult conversations, competing

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perspectives, accountability, and at

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times uncomfortable decisions.

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Disagreement is inevitable. However,

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what should never be negotiable is

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professionalism, integrity, and a

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commitment to the students and families

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we have elected to serve. And quite

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frankly, I am concerned about what I

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have been witnessing. There appears to

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be an increasingly troubling pattern of

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institutional intimidation,

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interpersonal conflict, and the use of

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positions of authority in ways that risk

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undermining the very institution you

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were elected to serve. Let me remind

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everyone in this room. The school

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committee is not a platform for personal

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agendas, political optics, or protecting

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individual reputation. Is a governing

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body entrusted with the education and

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well-being of our city's children. Our

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students should be at the center of

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every conversation. Our families should

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be at the center of every policy

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decision. Our educators be should be

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supported in their work. And our

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community should be able to trust that

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the people elected to represent them are

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operating with professionalism, sound

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judgment, and a shared sense of

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responsibility. When the focus shifts

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for governance to personal

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disagreements, public image, political

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positioning, or undermining one another,

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we all lose. And I don't know about you

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guys, but I don't like to lose,

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especially if we're calling ourselves a

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city of champions. Most importantly, our

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students and families lose. I also want

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to address accountability at the

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individual level. I have personally

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reached out to my elected school

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committee representative through direct

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communication and text messages and have

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been met with silence. This is

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particularly disappointing given that I

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had previously invested my own time in

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providing one-on-one coaching and

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support to this individual, giving them

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my time, my talent, and my treasure. Let

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me be clear. I do not believe that

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helping someone creates an obligation

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for them to agree with me, return a

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favor, or maintain a personal

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relationship. That is not what public

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service is about. However, when someone

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is elected to represent a constituency,

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communication, accessibility are part of

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that responsibility. Constituents should

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not have to question whether their

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elected representative is willing to

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acknowledge them, respond to their

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concerns, or engage in meaningful

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dialogue. Representation is simply

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occupying. Representation

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is not simply occupying a seat at the

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table. It is understanding that you have

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been entrusted with a responsibility to

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people beyond yourself. And that brings

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me to another point.

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>> Your time is up.

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>> Next up, we have Matt Stanton.

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>> Each of these position carries an annual

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stipen of approximately $20,000 funded

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by our taxpayers. According to the

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enterprise, it consists of a $15,000

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salary and a 5,000 stipen under city

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ordinance. That is a meaningful public

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investment. With that investment comes

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an expectation of accountability, prep

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um preparation, professionalism, and an

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understanding of the responsibilities

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associated with the role. Our community

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deserves representatives who are

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qualified, emotionally intelligent,

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capable of navigating conflict, willing

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to listen, and able to distinguish

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personal feelings from professional

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obligations. We need people who

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understand governance. People who can

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disagree without resorting to

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intimidation. People who can receive

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criticism without making it personal.

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People who understand that leadership

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requires self-awareness, emotional

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regulation, humility, and the ability to

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put the mission above the individual.

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Quite frankly, I believe it is time for

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a significant change in the composition

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and culture of this school committee. I

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want to see a table where students and

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families are the priority. A table where

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difficult conversations are welcomed

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rather than suppressed. A table where

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elected officials understand their

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authority, but more importantly,

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understand the limitations and

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responsibilities that come with that

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authority. And I want to see a table

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where the community's trust is earned

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through actions, not public appearances

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or carefully managed optics. To the

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members sitting before me tonight, I

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want you to leave with a few questions.

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Are you governing in the best interest

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of our students and families? Are you

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holding yourselves to the same standards

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of accountability that you expect from

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our educators, our administrators, and

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our district employees? Are you

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accessible to the constituents who

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elected you? And when you leave this

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room, can you honestly say that your

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decisions, your conduct, and your

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leadership have advanced the interests

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of the children and families of this

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community? Because that is the

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expectation. I did not enter public

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service to protect titles, egos, or

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political relationships. And I certainly

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do not believe that anyone should enter

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public service for those reasons. Public

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office is a public trust, is not a

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personal platform, a popularity contest,

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or an entitlement. You have been

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entrusted with the voices, resources,

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and educational futures of an entire

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community. Please start governing like

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it. Our children deserve that. Our

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families deserve that. Our educators

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deserve that. And our taxpayers deserve

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that. Thank you for your time. Uh that

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concludes the hearing of visitors agenda

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item number three, the report of sup

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superintendent of schools. Welcome.

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>> Hi, my name is Raina Cannon. I'm the

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executive director of Discovering

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Justice. Um and uh I just wanted to say

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thank you for having me tonight here. Uh

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so Discovering Justice has been

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partnering with the Brockton public

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schools uh for 5 years and we launched

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in 2021 with just one school. Um, our

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program, Mock Trial in the fall and mock

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appeal in the spring, pairs students

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weekly with legal professionals to

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analyze real cases. Um, and then they

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culminate in a final event at the

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courthouse where students argue a case

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before a real judge and a jury or a

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panel of judges in the spring. Uh for

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five years um the Massachusetts Civics

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Fund covered uh nearly 100% of the

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program costs and for the first time in

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five years uh Brockton School District

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did not receive that funding for FY27.

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Obviously, we all value the partnership

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and um determined that we would keep the

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program going this year um and that we

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would uh make sure that the students

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continue to have access in the program

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which is in all seven middle schools in

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Brockton. Um you know, the school

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district really stepped up and found uh

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money for teacher spins and buses to the

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courthouse. They were covered with

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district funds. So, we really thank uh

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the district for going through that

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process. um and really working hard to

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make that happen for the students. Um

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and then Discovering Justice committed

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to continuing to fund raise for the

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program and making it sustainable over

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time. Um and so that we can rely less on

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the programming. And so in order to keep

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this program going um we are you know

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really uh tapping into the Brockton

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community for support and asking for

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their help in ensuring that this uh

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program continues for the long haul for

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students in Brockton. Uh and so you know

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what we're doing at Discovering Justice

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is that we're continuing to commit to

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Brockton public schools and um we have a

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shared commitment and a partnership. Um

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and then we are also fundraising in the

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community and writing to grants um to

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foundations and other grant sources to

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replace the lost state funding. Uh many

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of you have been to this final event.

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Many of you have seen the program with

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your own eyes. Um, I do have to say that

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I think it's an amazing uh thing to

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watch a student uh over the course of 10

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to 11 weeks really uh gain the

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confidence and the public speaking

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skills and the understanding of

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constitutional law to stand up before a

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actual judge um and a jury of volunteers

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where they will deliver a verdict um and

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they argue their case and they do a

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phenomenal job. Brockton is one of our

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best partnerships. It's one of the

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partnerships that we point to whenever

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we start in a new district. We say we

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would like this partnership to become

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like Brockton. Um and so it's a really

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important program to many people in the

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community and it's a really important

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program to discovering justice. Um and

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my ask is just that you know please uh

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keep us in mind as you think about uh

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connecting connecting with funders who

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care about Brockton students. Um we're

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really looking to connect with local

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businesses, employers, community

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foundations, civics groups, um law

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firms, bar associations, legal partners,

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um and families and alumni of the

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program. Um we have our contact

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information here. My uh co my colleague

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Sarah Gil who is our director of

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development and people are always

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welcome to uh reach out to myself as

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well. Um but we are really committed to

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continuing this work. Um and we're

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thrilled to be here this evening um

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presenting to you. So, I'm happy to take

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any questions as well.

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>> Before I open it up to the floor, I'd

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just like to say um I believe we learned

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about this program, myself and Miss

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Oliver during our second year um of our

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first term and it's one of the many

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programs that our students here in

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Brockton are participate in and it does

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uh give them the opportunity for

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exposure and networking with real

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professionals in the field. um they have

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access to, you know, courtrooms, doing

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mock trials and really working um in the

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area that they're uh interested in. Um

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recently we learned that they have been

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defunded and they're trying to work to

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maintain and keep the pro the program

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going for as long as they can and they

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also entails, you know, fundraising

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support and whatnot. Uh I'll now open it

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up to the floor if anybody has anything

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to say. It's all over there. Mr. Ina,

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>> thank you um vice chair and I do

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appreciate it um getting this on the

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agenda um so quick as soon as uh Rhonda

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let us know via email the status of

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being unfunded. I was extremely

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disappointed because this is extremely

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important for our students. Um it's a

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great program. I've been um one of the

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juries on the mock trial and just to see

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how incredible our students can put a

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legal case um in front of a judge, it

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has left me like breathtaking every

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single time because they do incredible

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job. And the fact that we are finally

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able to do every middle school to find

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out that we are not funded is kind of

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heartbreaking. So, I definitely wanted

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to bring you on today to see how we can

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support you to make sure we do not lose

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this great program. Our students deserve

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it. I think it's a great um addition to

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the after school program. I truly

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appreciate all the mentors, the um

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attorneys that basically um you know

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participate and volunteer with our

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students and really give them the

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knowledge of how to you know do a court

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system works, how the judge works, how

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to fight a legal system, not and also

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making sure our kids are not so afraid

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of the legal system to see how other

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ways they work for the people. They

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protect the people too against criminals

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and how we can better serve the

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community, not always be afraid of the

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police, the judge, and the attorney. But

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I was trying to figure out how were we

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originally funding it? Is it to like a

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grant, a federal grant, a state grant?

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How do we how do we lose it? Like how

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can we basically reapply for the grants?

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>> Yeah. So, um the Massachusetts Civics

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Fund, that's a great question. Um, and

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I'm I I am thrilled that so many folks

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in this room have um been part of this

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program as jurors and just uh shown up

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for it. So, thank you for that. Um, the program was funded through um

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something called the Massachusetts

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Civics Grant, which is about a million

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dollars that's that is distributed from

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the Department of Elementary and

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Secondary Education each year. Sometimes

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it's a little more than that. Um, but

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it's right around 1 million $1.1

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million. Um, the civics fund uh comes

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out the our the grant application comes

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out every spring. Um, and then uh

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districts find out in the summertime

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whether or not they received it. In the

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last five years, Brockton has applied

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for that grant and received the grant.

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Um, last year, last spring, we applied

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again. Everything went fine. Uh

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everything went perfectly. Um you know,

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we wrote the grant, we submitted it. Um

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and you know, I think that really what

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happened is that the priorities shifted,

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right? And so it wasn't just Brockton

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that we saw who did not receive funding

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from this. We saw actually several of

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our partner districts um uh did not

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receive funding for this program. Um and

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they prioritize different things. Now I

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have spoken uh with representatives at

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DESIE and they have told us that you

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know Brockton can apply again. Any

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school district that was turned down

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this cycle can apply again. And it is um

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and it is my uh we intend to support

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that application and you know uh partner

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and you know apply again in all of the

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districts where uh we were denied

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funding. um but I don't think it's

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something that we can rely on moving

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forward. And so I do think that shifting

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um the funding of this program um to uh

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other places and to find those funding

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streams um and the more people that we

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can you know we I think a large job we

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are a 501c3. We're a nonprofit

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organization and so we are allowed to

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fund raise and we always have and so I

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think the best thing um that you know

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can be done is really if you have ideas,

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if you have thoughts on people we should

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connect with foundations

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um or other funders in who you know are

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um you know are passionate about this

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type of work, civics education for

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students um and empowering students to

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understand and learn about the law and

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the legal system and the judiciary. Um,

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I think we would love to speak with them

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and a warm intro goes a really long way.

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I think once people see the program and

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once people understand what's happening,

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um, they really are thrilled by the idea

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of it. Um, but I think that, you know,

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people are inundated with information

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every day. And so if there's somebody or

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something that can happen that can cut

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through the noise a little bit um and

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give us a warm introduction, I think

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that is one of the best things that can

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uh that can come of this this uh this uh

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situation.

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>> Thank you, Ron. And I appreciate um

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giving us all the information and what

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we need to work u with. And I do think

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that this committee definitely needs to

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get together and have a conversation how

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we can support the program more and how

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we can basically get other, you know,

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lawyers or judges from Brockton that can

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support this program and also see if

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they can donate. But I think this is

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something that we do not want to lose at

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all. I definitely don't want to lose

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this program in the city of Brockton and

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I'm fortunate that other cities are

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going through the same thing. But

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hopefully we can work together and find

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a solution to it. I appreciate um all

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the work that everybody's been doing in

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the in the background and especially the

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judges at the courthouse. They do

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incredible job. They have gone and speak

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to our students at the school. I think

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definitely we need to work together and

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get this done. I appreciate it. Thank

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you.

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>> Thank you so much.

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>> Thank you, Miss Oliver. Let the record

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reflect uh Mr. Rodriguez is here. Uh Mr.

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Pina,

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>> good evening. Um I've also uh from the

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um invitation of member Rodriguez had

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gone to uh the event both the um the

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appeal and the trial and and was u

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really surprised how well some of these

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students were able to communicate and um

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and and get their points across and the

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feedback they got from the judges and

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the lawyers was great as well. I just

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had a a few questions. Um I I see some

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great value in this program. What is the

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cost uh for the program on a So it looks

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like it's broken up into two sections.

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So each section

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» Sorry, can you repeat that? What is the

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cost of each program?

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>> Yeah, the cost of the program and I it

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seems as though it's broken into the

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trial section and then the appeal

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section.

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Yeah, absolutely. So, um, and it's a

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little bit dependent on the size of the

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team and the size of the district

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because there is a little bit of scale,

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but generally it costs us about $5,000 a

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semester per team to deliver the

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program. And so about $10,000 covers a

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full program year for a group of

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students. Um, and our average team size

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is usually about 12 to 15 students. Now,

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Brockton usually blows that out of the

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water. We have teams of 20 to 25

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students. um coming into the Brockton

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schools and it's incredibly uh it's an

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incredibly robust number of students. Um

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but it's about $5,000 a semester in

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terms of real costs. Um and that

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includes all of the you know uh

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curriculum and the materials and um you

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know the final event um and just making

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sure that all the logistics are taken

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care of. Um, and you know, our

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curriculum is vetted by teachers. It's

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vetted by attorneys. It's vetted by

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judges and volunteers who really look at

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it and say, "This is appropriate for

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middle schoolers. It's high quality."

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Um, and so we work really hard to make

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sure that students are getting not just

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like any experience, but a really high

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quality experience um where they can

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really thrive.

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>> And what was the number of teams?

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>> Uh, the number of teams in Brockton.

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Yeah, cuz you said it was 5,000 per team

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per semester. Semester. So, what is the

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>> It's all all seven middle schools have a

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team this year.

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>> So, each middle school had eight.

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» Is that what is that what you said? So,

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48 teams.

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>> So, one one team per middle school.

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Seven teams in all.

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>> Oh, seven teams in all. Okay. Okay.

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>> And so, it's about 10,000 per um team

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with everything in. So, about $70,000.

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>> I went to Brockton. I got the math.

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[laughter]

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>> Um what are the what are the measurable

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outcomes that you get from this program?

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>> Yeah, so um the outcomes that we are

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really tracking towards are um we want

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to make sure that students are gaining

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um skills and dispositions. And so the

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skills that we're really targeting is

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that students are improving at things

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like public speaking, writing,

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listening, sharing their ideas. Um, and

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so those are all measured by surveys

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that we deliver over the course of a

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semester. Um, you know, and

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observational data that we also collect

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from teachers and legal mentors. Um and

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then we also want to make sure that

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students uh we also really focus on what

545
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we call dispositions, civic skills and

546
00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:35,280
civic dispositions. And so we want to

547
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,840
make sure that students are feeling um

548
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,840
like they are part of a community, that

549
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,360
they can be proud of something that

550
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,600
they've worked on, that they are maybe

551
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,159
thinking about how they can continue to

552
00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:49,120
stay involved in civic life um and you

553
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,960
know have options for that and

554
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,440
understand that as um you know something

555
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,200
that's available to them and also a

556
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,240
responsibility of being a citizen.

557
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,280
>> And this is a afterchool program.

558
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280
>> It is correct. It meets once a week

559
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,400
after school for about 90 minutes.

560
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,559
>> And then lastly, um when they graduate

561
00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:13,280
or rise or whatever we call it from

562
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,760
middle school and go to the high school,

563
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,039
um is there's no CRT program, I'm sorry,

564
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,200
Cte program that um they go into. It's

565
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,120
it just ends.

566
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,840
>> We do not have a high school program

567
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,159
with Discovering Justice. There are

568
00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:32,400
there is a statewide program that's run

569
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,559
by the bar association that many high

570
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,799
schools do participate in and I do

571
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,559
believe Brockton students actually do

572
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,880
participate in that. We also find that

573
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,880
some of our students go into other

574
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,440
similar type of programs debate model UN

575
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,240
um things like that uh that but we don't

576
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,159
continue into high school. We believe

577
00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:53,840
that, you know, when we started this

578
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,919
program, we we chose middle school

579
00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,919
because we believe that, you know, there

580
00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:00,240
was a lot on for the older students and

581
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,000
a lot for like really young students,

582
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,919
but not a lot for those middle school

583
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:05,919
students. And we thought it was um

584
00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,679
really important to focus in on those

585
00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:09,120
years.

586
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,360
So, I guess the next question is to the

587
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:15,120
uh superintendent as to uh why not just

588
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,559
bring this inhouse and have this

589
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,520
internally and then have a CTE program

590
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,840
that goes up to the high school.

591
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,679
>> So, that's certainly something that we

592
00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:25,760
could consider. We do have a mock trial

593
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080
program at the high school. It's just um

594
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,559
run through I believe it's the Mass Bar.

595
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:34,000
Um so, we we there is a program that is

596
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080
run. Um, as far as making it a CTE

597
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,559
pathway, that's certainly something we

598
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:39,600
could consider. And

599
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,360
>> as we're as we're building a new high

600
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,120
school, I believe that one of the things

601
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,799
that we want to do is maybe put a a mock

602
00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:50,000
courtroom or something in there that

603
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,240
I I guess I'll I'll look to you up

604
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,039
there, Mr. Principal, as to some of the

605
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,960
plans for the future of uh adding to the

606
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,960
CTE program. But I think I think it's a great program. I think it's I I

607
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,200
understand that it's a it's a

608
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440
extracurricular activity. I don't know

609
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,919
if that makes some of the kids that play

610
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:12,960
sports um lose the ability to

611
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480
participate.

612
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,880
Um so I I think I would like to see it

613
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,200
brought in house and um and can and put

614
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480
into the curriculum inside.

615
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,080
>> Good.

616
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,520
>> Miss Azac,

617
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480
>> thank you so much. Uh, Miss Kanan. So,

618
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960
I'm actually I've had the pleasure of

619
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,520
sitting um as a juror on some of these

620
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600
trials over the years, and it's always

621
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,039
impressive to see our students and the

622
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,000
amount of work that goes into this. So,

623
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,240
you know, 5 years we've been partnering

624
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,000
with Discovering Justice. Um,

625
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,360
what's really impressive is 75 volunteer

626
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,760
judges. Can you just let those that are

627
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,360
listening,

628
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,360
we have 75 volunteer judges and I

629
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,600
remember um I spoke with someone a few

630
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,400
years back and the amount of time that

631
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720
goes into this, isn't it like 90 minutes

632
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,640
a week or something or 90 minutes

633
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
bi-weekly? It's it's a lot of time that

634
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,520
these volunteer judges are putting into

635
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,360
this into our students and um that says

636
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,159
a lot. you know, that's an hour and a

637
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:21,919
half that someone is taking out of their

638
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:24,880
workday to sit and mentor our students

639
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,960
and and to give back to BPS. So, um,

640
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,480
same with, you know, when we look at

641
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,080
this and you break down the number and

642
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,039
you have 350 plus students. When you

643
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,919
break this down, that's 350 plus

644
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:40,480
students. I mean, anywhere from 200 or

645
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,320
under $200 a student that this is

646
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,880
costing for an 11 10 to an 11week

647
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,720
program. Um, but if you can can you just

648
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,720
talk a little more about the volunteers,

649
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,360
our judges, our attorneys. Um, I know

650
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,440
that there's a cost to this, but 70K

651
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,200
sounds like a lot of money, but when you

652
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000
break it down over 350 plus, and to know

653
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,600
that a lot of our middle school, all our

654
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,549
middle schools are participating.

655
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,600
Um, so a lot of the um, middle schools

656
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,159
are part of this and thank you. And um

657
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:17,360
which is for those that have sat as a

658
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,320
juror, you can see it builds confidence

659
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,039
and it teaches our students um to get

660
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,120
them comfortable and to get comfortable

661
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,320
with our attorneys and the process as

662
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,080
far as like public speaking, things like

663
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,679
that. Um but can you just maybe um just

664
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,039
speak a little bit about those that are

665
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,799
volunteering that are actually take

666
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:39,279
these are attorneys, judges, and others

667
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,120
in our community that are taking their

668
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,000
personal time to invest in our students.

669
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Um I just don't know the amount. Yeah, I

670
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840
don't know the exact time, but I do know

671
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,200
I know it was a few years ago, a couple

672
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,400
years ago, someone had mentioned I think

673
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,760
it was like 90 hours um each session

674
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,120
that they were they were putting in out

675
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:56,559
of their time.

676
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,559
>> Yep. Absolutely. Um so our volunteers

677
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,279
are really amazing and the teacher

678
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,360
coordinators who are school-based who

679
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,400
also give their time are also phenomenal

680
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,240
people. Um so each session lasts about

681
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,440
90 minutes after school once a week.

682
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Each semester runs about 10 to 11 weeks.

683
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,400
Um the legal mentors and the teachers

684
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,799
are there for every single session. So,

685
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:27,279
for every single 90minute session, they

686
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,919
are there um and they're coaching

687
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:32,000
students, they're working with them,

688
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,240
they're teaching them, they're listening

689
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,039
to them, they're helping them practice

690
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,840
um and doing all of that work. Um our

691
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,039
judges are uh and the judges in Brockton

692
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,039
are phenomenal and every single person

693
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,440
at the Brockton courthouse um they give

694
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,320
their time and energy to run that final

695
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,200
event. Um but also during the semester,

696
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
judges go and they visit the students

697
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,640
and the attorneys um a few weeks before

698
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,720
the final event. They watch them

699
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,440
practice. They talk to them about you

700
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,120
know how their journey um and uh it's a

701
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,000
really incredible thing to I think watch

702
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,559
the students be mentored with the time

703
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,960
but also build these relationships. We

704
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,559
also find that many of our students

705
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,720
actually come back year after year. So,

706
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520
they're in the program for two, three

707
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240
years and they develop these incredible

708
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
relationships with the attorneys. Um,

709
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,039
and look forward to the judges coming

710
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,200
back every single year. Um, and

711
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,440
Brockton's a really amazing community.

712
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,200
Um, I think that, uh, we have seen these

713
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,440
students like build these relationships

714
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,360
and, you know, I think that it's

715
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,679
something that is really special to

716
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:46,320
watch. Um and it's really amazing that

717
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,480
when you know last year I remember I was

718
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,279
at the final event at the appeal and uh

719
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,080
one of the students um you know got up

720
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,200
and gave her oral argument and the judge

721
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,120
who had visited her classroom a few

722
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840
weeks ago had a very pointed question

723
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,399
and the student listened. She took you

724
00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:06,320
know she took in what the judge said and

725
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,799
then she said her piece. She said it,

726
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,640
the judge pushed and she pushed right

727
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200
back and it was an amazing exchange and

728
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,520
I thought it was so impressive. Um, it

729
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360
was done in an incredibly like

730
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,159
respectful, professional way. Um, and I

731
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,240
had seen this student a few weeks before

732
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,240
and I would not have told you that she

733
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,159
could have done that and she did. And

734
00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,799
so, um, the volunteers, the teacher

735
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,520
volunteers, the attorneys who volunteer

736
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640
their time, um, and the judges who come,

737
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,960
um, and volunteer their time as well

738
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360
really make the program, um, an

739
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,640
incredible experience for every student.

740
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:48,159
>> Thank you. Um, so the 70k, um, can you

741
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:53,279
break that down for us to see where the cost is? Um because I mean

742
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:54,720
maybe we can try I know you mentioned

743
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,640
you can do fundraising. I'm sure um if

744
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880
there's ways to reach out to the

745
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,320
different you know the Plymouth County

746
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,640
Bar Association, the Bris like the the

747
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,279
surrounding bars with with we're ask our

748
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,399
attorneys um that are probably members

749
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:13,200
to try to sponsor a student or at least

750
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,799
sponsor a school um see how we can help

751
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,159
you because this is a very important

752
00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:19,679
program for our kids. I mean, we have

753
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,679
many important programs, but this one

754
00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:24,399
where it affects so many of them. Um,

755
00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:28,720
whatever we can try to do to help you, know, I I wasn't sure is it is this

756
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,000
something we can go under community

757
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440
schools, a portion of it. Um,

758
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440
again, it just if if if there's ways

759
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440
that we can try to help you. Um, we

760
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
can't you've worked so hard to get to

761
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,600
where we are. you have the judges

762
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,360
because I know there was a time they

763
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,799
were having a hard time getting judges

764
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,679
and attorneys um given the uh commitment

765
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,159
of time but now that you have that we

766
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,320
need to help as far as the funding

767
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,600
figure out how we're going to find the

768
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,120
funding. So um

769
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,080
>> yes thank you.

770
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,399
>> So what is if if you can can you break

771
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:02,080
down the 70k is um is it you know

772
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,880
resources that they're using? I mean

773
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,799
what is it that maybe there's something

774
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,760
we can do to offset that a little bit?

775
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that um we

776
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960
did have a we did recently receive a

777
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120
very generous grant from an anonymous

778
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640
donor in Brockton. We received $10,000

779
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,279
uh towards the Brockton program. Um and

780
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,520
we've had a few other funders step up

781
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,360
and make smaller gifts, but we are

782
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
making headway. Um, and we are applying

783
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,080
to a state grant um that includes

784
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,159
Brockton and we're hoping to uh you know

785
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:39,919
um we're hoping that that will come

786
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:41,840
through which would be a really large

787
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,840
chunk um of the 70k. And so I think like

788
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600
we're making really good progress and

789
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600
we're making really good headway. you

790
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,679
know, the thing that um the things that

791
00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:54,240
the the dollars pay for are really

792
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,760
around um the curriculum materials, the

793
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
curriculum development. Um you know, we

794
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
develop the case, we develop every

795
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,320
single lesson plan, we develop all of

796
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,039
the materials so that the legal mentors

797
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,120
and the judges can bring the legal

798
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360
expertise and they don't have to also be

799
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,960
education experts. Um, we also make we

800
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,240
have a staff member um who is really

801
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,279
responsible for the coordination of the

802
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,279
final events and all of the logistics

803
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,480
and the training um of our volunteers

804
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,720
because we want to make sure that it's a

805
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,799
really high quality experience for

806
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,200
students. Um, and so those are the types

807
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,559
of things that the $70,000 the $10,000

808
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,760
per team um is going towards. It's

809
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,880
really around things like curriculum and

810
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,360
um uh curriculum and materials,

811
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,679
volunteer engagement, the f the

812
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,640
training, the final events, things like

813
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,279
that. Um and I'm happy to send like a

814
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,519
more uh detailed budget if that's

815
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,480
helpful. Um, and uh, you know, I think

816
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,880
the community that we've reached out to

817
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
so far, including tonight, has uh, done

818
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000
an amazing job of just saying like, yes,

819
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,240
like let's, you know, make this make

820
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,159
sure that students still have access to

821
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,799
it and it's already showing gains.

822
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,240
>> Thank you. I think those that have

823
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,640
actually attended um, these mock trials

824
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,399
see how how amazing they are. Um, you

825
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:23,600
know, usually they're around this time

826
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360
that you have you have them. usually

827
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,480
October, November. Um they usually have

828
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,519
them. So again, um thank you so much for

829
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,880
the presentation and uh we will do our

830
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,000
best to try to keep this program going.

831
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,279
Thank you.

832
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,440
>> Thank you. Thank you for having me. I

833
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,480
appreciate it.

834
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,830
>> Um any other question, Mr. Sullivan?

835
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,200
» No questions.

836
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,039
>> Mr. Rodri, uh Misso,

837
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:56,240
>> um hello. Um so when I was doing my

838
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,760
internship I at west I I actually was

839
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480
part of supporting students to practice

840
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,679
for this debate. So this is definitely a

841
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:07,760
program that do not want our students to

842
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,720
lose. So and I am with Mr. Pina to

843
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,399
figure out how we can keep this in

844
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:15,040
house. um because grants is not

845
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,200
guaranteed and we should not be

846
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,839
dependent on people to donate money

847
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:23,440
which we will always welcome that but I

848
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,040
would like to figure it out um ways that

849
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560
we can at least fund a portion of it um

850
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,639
because this is a program that I do not

851
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,839
want us to lose. Thank you.

852
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:37,760
>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Rodriguez.

853
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520
>> Thank you. [clears throat] This kind of

854
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,280
feels like deja vu. Um when I first got

855
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,800
on the committee I was I believe it was

856
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,320
Lara at the time from Discovering

857
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Justice that reached out to me um in

858
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,639
2020 2021. Um and at the time we only

859
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,359
had uh one school participating and

860
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,599
there was a deadline of like two days

861
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,359
and I'm calling Melinda to schedule a

862
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:01,680
meeting u to make sure that this uh

863
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
grant was applied so we can grow it. Now

864
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,880
we have seven but now um we need some

865
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,800
funding. Um, I don't want to be

866
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,760
sarcastic to say, um, take it jokingly,

867
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,839
but I I do believe I could identify just

868
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:14,960
off the top of my head with the

869
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,400
overpayment by the school school

870
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160
committee members, we can allocate those

871
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,800
funds to this program, seeing fit if,

872
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,160
uh, the superintendent can look into

873
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480
that so we can give a portion of that.

874
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,119
Um and also uh you know with this

875
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,680
program um when members uh Gomes and

876
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,880
Oliver got on the committee um and you

877
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,480
know informing them of how great this

878
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,280
program is is to make sure that this

879
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,240
program uh lives uh for quite some time

880
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,880
in the district and we can just see how

881
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,240
uh it's grown. Um it was eyeopening when

882
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,160
I attended one of the events at the

883
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,800
Mowley uh center. Um and at the time

884
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,800
Mrs. Rivas who was actually in the

885
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200
audience uh accompany me and the former

886
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
superintendent um and we actually kind

887
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920
of had to drag him along but the

888
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,079
showcase was all about Brockton at that

889
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,320
event and you had over 800 people in

890
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,040
attendance um including uh you know

891
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,200
channel 10 and all his news media that's

892
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200
been covering uh discovering justice

893
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,760
program. So, thank you for all the work

894
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,280
uh and everybody that's been involved in

895
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960
this uh endeavor with the school

896
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,280
district. And I'm confident that this

897
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,800
body will work together to make sure

898
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,280
that we can identify some funds uh

899
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,720
through the superintendent to make sure

900
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,720
that you know we can play a small part

901
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,640
uh in making sure that we maintain it.

902
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,119
Thank you.

903
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,760
>> Any other members?

904
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,839
>> Okay, Mr. Gomes just stepped away for a

905
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:42,000
couple of minutes. Um, thank you so much

906
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,520
for the presentation. Uh, and I

907
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,440
is when is your deadline? Do you have a

908
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,320
deadline that you need this by

909
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,000
the funding?

910
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,760
>> I think the sooner that we know, the

911
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,760
better off we'll be. I think we are

912
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,079
going to continue to raise funds for

913
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,240
this program. And so, I think that, you

914
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,000
know, we're committed to having it this

915
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,560
year. We're not we're not talking about

916
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,720
making any changes to the program this

917
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,680
year. um this school year. And so, but I

918
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,359
think that, you know, the sooner that we

919
00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:16,800
know that we uh you know, what we can

920
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,520
sort of rely on um the better the you

921
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,040
know, more we can turn to um continue

922
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,200
continuing to just run the program in

923
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,359
the way that um you know, in a way that

924
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:29,359
it benefits students.

925
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:31,760
>> Uh not to put you on the spot, um so you

926
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400
mentioned you identified some funds. Um

927
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,400
do you have a ballpark idea of what you

928
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,119
what the remaining funds are needed? um

929
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,079
>> if we got this if we we are applying

930
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,480
right now for a major grant through the

931
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
state. Um and I think that if we receive

932
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
that we would be more than halfway

933
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,320
there. So I think we'd have you know 30

934
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,040
20 to 30 more to raise um if this grant

935
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,880
comes through.

936
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,520
>> Okay. Thank you so much. Um Vice Chair

937
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Commes is back. Thank you.

938
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,119
>> Absolutely. And I'm happy to talk and

939
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,359
follow up at any point. I'm happy to

940
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,760
provide more data if it's helpful. Um,

941
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,520
we have a lot of it. I just didn't know

942
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000
exactly how much time I had. And so, um,

943
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,320
I'm happy to talk at any point, um,

944
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
about further, you know, potential, um,

945
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,760
ideas and, uh, really want to, you know,

946
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,920
continue working with this community to

947
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640
ensure that the students continue to get

948
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,599
the, um, program because, uh, you all

949
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,920
have built it and, um, they deserve to

950
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040
keep it. And so I think um really uh

951
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,440
excited about the momentum.

952
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,920
>> So one last question. So Discovering

953
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Justice is applying for this grant. Is

954
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,000
it something that Brockton public

955
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
schools can also apply? one of us is

956
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
bound to get the grant if if

957
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,720
>> we are actually partnering with Brockton

958
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,079
already and I spoke to um two folks at

959
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,640
the district who they are uh we're

960
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,280
talking about like a it requires like a

961
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,520
fiscal sponsor and so Brockton is

962
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,119
actually already involved.

963
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,200
>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure if you

964
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,280
needed our help as far as the grant um

965
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,599
grant writing that we'd also step up and

966
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:13,119
see what we can do on our end. But thank

967
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,640
you so much.

968
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,760
>> Thank you.

969
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Any final questions,

970
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,200
comments, concerns? No. Thank you, Miss

971
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Kennet. Appreciate you being here

972
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,079
tonight. Uh feel free to reach out and

973
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:25,599
uh if there's additional information

974
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,760
you'd like to provide, um you can send

975
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,520
that to us as well.

976
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,040
>> Thank you for having me.

977
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,440
>> Of course. Um we will now move on to the

978
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,720
superintendent's report.

979
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,760
>> Right. Thank you. Um so yes we have been

980
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,760
working with discovering justice in or

981
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,720
and so we did uh find some funds in one

982
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,520
of our entitlement grants to support as

983
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,400
uh Raina mentioned the the stipens and

984
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,560
the transportation and we are continuing

985
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,440
to advocate with DESIE um to secure

986
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,760
those funds because um as Raina

987
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,520
mentioned this is a grant that we can

988
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,680
apply for every year but I do appreciate

989
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,280
the fact that they are being forward

990
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,280
thinking about the fact that we may not

991
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,960
get the grant in the future and so we

992
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,880
want to make sure that this is a

993
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,680
sustainable um that we have a

994
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,520
sustainable funding source moving

995
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,440
forward. But I do appreciate that they

996
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,599
have committed to continuing Discovering

997
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,680
Justice and that we are in partnership

998
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,200
with them and making sure that we're

999
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,240
doing our part in both providing funds

1000
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,520
and advocating um for additional funds

1001
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,079
from the state.

1002
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:35,359
All right. So um oh so uh we'll move on

1003
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:38,560
to my report. And in my report, I'm

1004
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,280
actually including um my presentation

1005
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,000
regarding my upcoming evaluation since

1006
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
we are completing my current evaluation

1007
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,359
this evening um as long along with the

1008
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:53,750
superintendent update.

1009
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,359
So I've known I know you've seen these

1010
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:57,520
slides before. So just a reminder of the

1011
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,760
five-step cycle um for the

1012
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,720
superintendent evaluation process. So

1013
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,200
this evening we are doing number five

1014
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,280
which is approving the final evaluation

1015
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,200
and overall rating but I'm also starting

1016
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,160
with a preview of number one um so that

1017
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,319
you can get an idea of what I'm thinking

1018
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:16,079
for my goals. You will not be approving

1019
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,240
them tonight but you will hear about

1020
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,079
them tonight um and then I will send

1021
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,599
them to you so that you can provide

1022
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,990
additional feedback.

1023
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
As a reminder, there need to be three

1024
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,760
goals. a district improvement goal, a

1025
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,599
professional practice goal and a student

1026
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,880
learning goal and also uh there are

1027
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,119
several focus indicators and generally

1028
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,839
we choose uh six focus indicators to

1029
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:42,160
focus on. I'm evaluated on all of them

1030
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,240
um all 21 but there are six in

1031
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,560
particular that I focus on every year

1032
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,000
and those are the artifacts that you

1033
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,870
receive um in the book.

1034
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,440
So we'll be speaking about uh the

1035
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,640
evaluation later on but um as a preview

1036
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,079
for what I was thinking for my

1037
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,560
improvement goals for this upcoming year

1038
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,800
uh based largely on the um DESIE review

1039
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,480
that we received um and the uh and the

1040
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,240
evaluation the initial evaluation

1041
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,480
results that I've read. So the district

1042
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,400
improvement goal um and these will be

1043
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,920
words smmith and you will be able to

1044
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,400
provide feedback um is to implement an

1045
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,079
attendance improvement strategy that

1046
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,680
leverages family engagement and

1047
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,319
coordinated student interventions. The

1048
00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:28,960
professional practice goal um that I am

1049
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,720
thinking of is providing access to

1050
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,480
consistent opportunities for families

1051
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,480
within the community to participate in

1052
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,079
school advisory and engagement

1053
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:37,920
structures. So that was an item that was

1054
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,480
mentioned in the Desi review as some as

1055
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,160
an area that requires greater

1056
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319
consistency. And then the student

1057
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:45,680
learning goal is to cultivate

1058
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,599
opportunities for deeper deeper

1059
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,200
learning, higher order thinking and

1060
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,109
student driven dialogue.

1061
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,440
Uh for the focus indicators, again

1062
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,680
there's 21 indicators and so the six

1063
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,400
that I chose again were specific to the

1064
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,200
recent DESI review. So standard 1B on

1065
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,839
instruction, standard 2C scheduling and

1066
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:07,920
management information systems, standard

1067
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,319
2e fiscal systems because I think that

1068
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:12,800
one has been in my evaluation one of my

1069
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,720
um focus indicators for the last two

1070
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,240
years and I think it should continue to

1071
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,119
be standard 3A family engagement

1072
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,200
standard 4A shared vision and commitment

1073
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,359
to high standards and standard 4D

1074
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:27,510
continuous learning.

1075
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,680
And so just as a reminder of where we

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have been this past year and where we'll

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be going this upcoming year, um last

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00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,319
year the review of my goals and focus

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00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,160
indicators, so this preview that I'm

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00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,160
providing tonight was provided on

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00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,240
October 22nd and then sent out to the

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00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,640
school committee. Um they were then

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00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,000
actually approved on December 2nd. Um,

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00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
and then August 14th of this year, I

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00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,640
sent you the report that you have. By

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,280
September 18th, the evaluation forms you

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00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,520
all submitted and uh, then it was

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00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,400
compiled to be approved this evening um,

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on October 6th. So, tonight I'm doing my

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00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,200
initial review of the goals and focus

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00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,880
indicators. [snorts] Um, uh, a tentative

1092
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,200
schedule for approval of goals and focus

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00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,880
indicators after you provide your

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00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880
feedback would be October or November of

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00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,720
this year. Um and then I figure we will

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00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,880
follow the same general timeline which

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00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,960
was which is that the end of year report

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00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,800
would come for me in August of next

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00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,280
year. Um the evaluation forms would be

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00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,480
submitted by school committee in

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00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,480
September with the evaluation being

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00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,480
approved by the school committee in

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00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,480
October of next year. So this is the

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00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,400
same cycle that we've followed um the

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00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480
last two years I've been here. And so I

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00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,160
um figured that we would follow

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00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,160
something similar this upcoming year.

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00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,000
And so I would like to jump right into

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00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,079
the update of some exciting things that

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00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,079
have been happening around the district

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00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,880
and we you will see that we are already

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,720
um working towards some of these goals.

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00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:00,800
So this year Brockton Public Schools is

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00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,800
placing an intentional focus on

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00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,119
strengthening family collaboration as an

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00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:06,720
important part of supporting student

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00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,520
learning and success. So our goal is to

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00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,520
si move beyond simply communicating

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00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,359
information to families toward creating

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more meaningful opportunities to work

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00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,680
with families, valuing their knowledge

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00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,680
of their children, engaging them in

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00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,599
dialogue about learning, and seeking

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00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,200
their perspectives and feedback when

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00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,440
determining how best to support their

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00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,760
students. Principles across the district

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00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,160
are engaging with staff to identify how

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00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,319
they currently cor collaborate with

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00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:34,480
families and identifying ways in which

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they can deepen that collaboration. So

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00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,960
here you see an example of this pictured

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00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,640
where Downey educators are working

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00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,880
collaboratively to dig into how making

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00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,599
subtle shifts in practice can translate

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00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,520
to more powerful partnerships with

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00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,589
families.

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00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,160
Also we launched our new parent

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00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,680
engagement platform um and uh parent

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00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,119
square. So many of you I'm sure have

1140
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:00,720
gotten your uh parent square

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00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,280
notifications. Um and here you'll see

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00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,599
that Mr. Kelly and I had the distinct

1143
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:07,839
honor of making a surprise visit to Miss

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00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:09,920
Raposa's first grade first grade

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,240
classroom at the Angelo School to

1146
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,440
recognize her as BPS's inaugural Parent

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00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,359
Square champion because of all the

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00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:18,800
incredible work she's done to make the

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00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,720
most of this new platform for family

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00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:22,960
outreach. Miss Raposa has done an

1151
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,880
amazing job using Parent Square early

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00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,040
and often to keep her students families

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00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,280
up to date on all that they're learning.

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00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,800
She has also been a leader among her

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00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,640
peers in helping them get the most out

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00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,520
of parent square as well. The Angelo was

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00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
our leading school through the first few

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00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,040
weeks of the school year in terms of

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00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,040
post for families and Miss Raposa was

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00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,520
the leading poster at the Angelo which

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00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,119
taken together earned her the

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00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,640
distinction of being our first parent

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00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,119
square champion. The championship belt

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00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:50,800
she earned will be hers to display in

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00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800
her classroom until we identify our next

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00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,400
champ. and the belt will then travel

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00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,160
around the district throughout the year

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00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,000
as we celebrate our educators and

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00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,760
administrators who are doing an amazing

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00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,920
job keeping families informed and

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00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,109
engaged.

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Also, uh this past weekend, BHS girls

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00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,000
sports teams welcomed 45 girls from

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grades 3 through 8 to Marciano Stadium

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00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,960
over the weekend for the annual girls

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00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,280
sports day. Students took part in six

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00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,040
different sports stations, giving them a

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00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,640
firsthand preview of the opportunities

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that await them in basketball,

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00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,800
volleyball, softball, field hockey,

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00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,480
cheer, and soccer, while also giving

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00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,319
them the chance to get a feel for the

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00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:30,319
brand new turf field that many of those

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00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:32,319
sports now have the privilege of calling

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00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,640
home. Thank you to Katie Baloni for

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00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,480
organizing this growing tradition and to

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00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,319
all of the amazing athletes and coaches

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00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:40,560
who volunteered their time and made so

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00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,319
many younger students feel welcomed and

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00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:44,480
excited about the amazing opportunities

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00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,359
at VHS. Thank you also to member Pina

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00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:49,760
for helping to organize donated lunches

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00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,990
from Bracks.

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Congratulations to the 30 BPS Middle

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School student musicians who have been

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chosen to represent the city of

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champions at the annual Bridgewater

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State University Honor Band Festival.

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They will be performing in a full-day

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festival this Thursday, October 8th,

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with peers from across southeastern

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00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:13,200
Massachusetts. The day will be full of

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00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,040
rehearsals and culminates with a concert

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00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,560
at 3:30 p.m. at the Rondello Student

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00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,589
Center Auditorium at Bridgewwater State.

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00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,839
Last week, members of our finance team

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00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,760
attended the Mass Buys Conference in

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00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Foxboro, joining public sector

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00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,119
professionals from across the

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00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,640
Commonwealth for a day of learning and

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00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,559
collaboration. Through hands-on

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00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:36,160
workshops focused on finance,

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00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,760
procurement, and budgeting, our team

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00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,520
works sidebyside to sharpen the skills

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00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,839
they use every day in service of our

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00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:44,000
students, schools, and community.

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00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,839
Opportunities like this strengthen our

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00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:47,760
fiscal practices, keep our team current

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,920
on resources available to the district,

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00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160
and build teamwork. The team reported

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00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,319
feeling energized after this opportunity

1222
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:55,839
and is looking forward to putting what

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00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:00,319
they learned into practice each day.

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I'm also excited to share that the NFL

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00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,559
foundation and the character playbook

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00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,440
team have recognized BPS as a character

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00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,520
champion district. The distinction is

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awarded to districts where students are

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00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,839
actively engaged in character playbook,

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00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:15,760
demonstrating a meaningful commitment to

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00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,200
helping young people develop the

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character, leadership, and life skills

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00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,000
that support success both inside and

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00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,400
outside the classroom. Brockton is one

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of approximately a 100 districts

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00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,240
nationwide to earn this recognition,

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00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:30,000
which represents the collective effort

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00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,920
of educators, administrators,

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00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,240
counselors, and staff who work to foster

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00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:35,760
student growth and achievement every

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00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,760
day. Thank you to every member of our

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00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,160
team who contributed to us earning this

1243
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,160
incredible milestone or reaching this

1244
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,040
incredible milestone.

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00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,760
The free books for kids mo bookmobile

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00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,040
has been making stops throughout

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00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,880
Brockton during the school year with

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00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,880
more to come as the school year goes on.

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00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,800
It made its most recent stop at the

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00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,720
therapeutic day school giving students a

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00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:58,640
chance to select books of interest to

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00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,200
keep them at no cost to them or the

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00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,599
district. This is part of a regular set

1254
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,839
of stops the bookmobile is making across

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00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:08,400
the district. This initiative is led by

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Margaret Burgess who takes this project

1257
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,720
on in addition to her work as a

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00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,440
librarian in needm schools. Each year

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00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,040
when Margaret reaches out about this

1260
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,960
program, our principles rush to sign up

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00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,319
and there will be dates throughout the

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00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:22,160
remainder of the year where Margaret's

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00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,000
bookmobile will be paying a visit to

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schools serving grades K to 8.

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I also want to extend a big thank you to

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our partners at the Brockton Public

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00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:33,680
Library for their continued support of

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00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,559
our youngest students. This year, BPL

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00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,040
generously helped put 1,200 copies of

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00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,760
The Dot by Peter H. Reynolds into the

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hands of students, allowing us to

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provide a book to every incoming

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00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,400
kindergarten student across the

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00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
district. Each book included a special

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00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,040
book plate recognizing the partnership

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00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,559
between Brockton Public Schools and the

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00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,880
Brockton Public Library and welcoming

1278
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,720
our students as they begin their school

1279
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,040
journey. This initiative is about more

1280
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,800
than just distributing books and sharing

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00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,119
the joy of literacy. This initiative is

1282
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:04,720
helping to build a bridge that connects

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00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,119
school registration to early literacy to

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00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:08,800
family engagement and community

1285
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,549
partnership.

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And finally, National Custodians Day was

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last week, and I wanted to take a moment

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00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,119
to thank our amazing custodians, some of

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00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,200
whom are pictured here. Our custodians

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,720
are an essential part of the team at

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00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,559
every one of our buildings. And while

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00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,240
their work often happens early in the

1293
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,000
morning or late in the day, it's always

1294
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,839
seen by our students and staff in the

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00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:32,000
form of clean and safe buildings that

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00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,680
allow them to focus on teaching and

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00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,760
learning. So on behalf of myself, the

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,200
leadership team, the school committee,

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00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,960
and all of our students and educa

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00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,040
educators, thank you to our wonderful

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00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,720
custodians.

1302
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,119
>> Thank you, Superintendent. Um, Mr. Pin,

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00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,520
and then Miss Oliver.

1304
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:52,000
>> Um, so the district has made some

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00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,119
progress with the

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00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:03,109
overwheling.

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bit closer.

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00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:14,960
» Test test test. There you go. All right.

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00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,040
So, the district has uh made some great

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,240
progress. Actually, I was just talking

1311
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,640
to Dr. Spalding about the literacy

1312
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,440
scores in the uh lower grades K through

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00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,960
uh three and uh some of the the movement

1314
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,720
that we've made um in that area. My my

1315
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,640
concern is and I I wanted to bring this

1316
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,680
up is about the uh the higher grades. Um

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,599
what do you what do you believe are the

1318
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,000
primary reasons for those schools

1319
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,720
continue that continue to struggle and

1320
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,359
what specifically are we doing

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00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,680
differently this year than uh that we

1322
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,559
did um that you expect will materially

1323
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,880
uh improve student achievement?

1324
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,960
>> Yes. So I think this will be an ongoing

1325
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,400
conversation that we have throughout the

1326
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,720
school year and I think that the uh Desi

1327
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,800
district review certainly gave us some

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00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,200
uh great insight as well. Um and so as

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00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,280
you mentioned uh there you know our

1330
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,760
outcomes are remaining uneven but we do

1331
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,359
see that we have promising practices

1332
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:17,599
within our own school district and so

1333
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:19,280
certainly leveraging those promising

1334
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,599
practices and sharing them amongst our

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00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,680
schools. sometimes um you know [snorts]

1336
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640
our solutions are within our own walls.

1337
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,440
Um also some of the more uh the more

1338
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,359
focused support that we're going to be

1339
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:34,880
doing is our on our district data

1340
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,960
reviews, our learning walks and our

1341
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,000
ongoing work with DESIE um because those

1342
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
have helped us identify these areas and

1343
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,440
sharpen our focus. So when you look at

1344
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,280
our DESI review for example, they have

1345
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,200
in the appendices several of the

1346
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,720
walkthroughs and they've identified

1347
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,480
certain areas where we can provide

1348
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,160
additional support. So I think that

1349
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,920
gives us a good starting point. [snorts]

1350
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Desi also has reached out to us because

1351
00:53:55,839 --> 00:53:57,680
this is where we start partnering with

1352
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,359
them this school year on providing

1353
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:02,000
additional support. So, we are going to

1354
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
take a much more focused and intentional

1355
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,680
approach this year and we've established

1356
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,440
a clear uh dis district instructional

1357
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,760
priority um on ensuring that our

1358
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,680
students are actively engaged in grade

1359
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,760
level learning, talking, reading,

1360
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,680
writing, explaining, questioning, and

1361
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,240
responding with purposeful supports so

1362
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:21,760
that all of our students, including our

1363
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,280
multilingual learners and our students

1364
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,920
who are on IEPs, are participating uh in

1365
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,960
a successful way. We are also working to

1366
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,880
better align and leverage the tools and

1367
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,720
structures that we already have. So

1368
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,800
common planning time for example which

1369
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,280
um as you mentioned in the higher grades

1370
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,359
new this year we have expanded at

1371
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,559
Brockton High School. Uh learning walks

1372
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,319
again professional learning educator

1373
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:46,079
evaluation is a tool that we can

1374
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,319
leverage student data and targeted

1375
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:51,920
interventions so that they reinforce the same instructional

1376
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,040
priorities um rather than operate as

1377
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,359
separate initiatives. So I think that that is something that we can also

1378
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:02,000
be doing better um and more

1379
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,680
consistently. Um we also have allocated

1380
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,920
grant funding to support each school

1381
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,079
that is designated as requiring

1382
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:12,079
additional assistance this year uh so

1383
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,160
that they have a professional learning

1384
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,640
community that's focused on research for

1385
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,880
better teachings making student thinking

1386
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,720
visible course. So we'll be doing that

1387
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,280
and that course will equip teachers to

1388
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,920
create environments where our students

1389
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,880
are talking more than um talking more

1390
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,920
and taking part in higher order level

1391
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,040
thinking and um academic student

1392
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,400
dialogue. Um so moving shifting that

1393
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,559
dialogue from our teachers to to our

1394
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,680
students. And so our hope is that and we

1395
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,000
will continue to report on it is that

1396
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,400
with um these more targeted supports

1397
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,640
coupled with stronger accountability and

1398
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,720
monitoring uh that we will be able to

1399
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:54,720
lead to measurable improvements in

1400
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:55,839
student outcomes.

1401
00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:58,400
>> Just a followup with that. So you we had

1402
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,200
the promise school that scored

1403
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,520
much higher than our high school.

1404
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,920
>> What are we what did we learn from that?

1405
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,079
Is that what is that what you got this

1406
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,359
what you're saying? What you got that

1407
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:10,720
from? Is that what we're doing at

1408
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,960
promise that maybe made them a little

1409
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,680
bit um score

1410
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,119
>> planning time you mean? Um

1411
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:18,880
>> correct or actually the higher level

1412
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,400
engagement because I mean I'll be honest

1413
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,559
with you and I know you have a child as

1414
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:24,720
well in an ISL school and I do as well

1415
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,720
and so their curriculum is much

1416
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,799
different than ours and they do a lot

1417
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,160
more of that.

1418
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,000
>> Um and I believe they do that at the

1419
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640
promise as well. So I'm just curious if

1420
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,559
that is that's why we brought it over

1421
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,880
and bring it over to the high school.

1422
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,200
So, I I that's a great question. I think

1423
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,480
I'd have to think about that a little

1424
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,920
bit more and look at the data. I mean,

1425
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,400
we are certainly expanding early college

1426
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,119
at um at the high school. And so, I

1427
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:53,920
think that early college is certainly uh a reason that I think our promise

1428
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,799
students are um excelling. And so, we

1429
00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:58,640
are trying to leverage that more greatly

1430
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,880
at the high school. It it's hard it's

1431
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,960
hard to compare the two because it is

1432
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,799
sometimes apples and oranges. is I mean

1433
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:06,799
Brockton High is a much larger school

1434
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,319
and it provides a lot of different

1435
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:12,079
opportunities and you know um while

1436
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,880
accountability and I would never say

1437
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,720
that accountability is not important and

1438
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,240
assessment scores aren't important but

1439
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,599
it is interesting because when I go to

1440
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,040
promise one of the things that they

1441
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,720
mention is that they would like to have

1442
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,119
greater access to some of the

1443
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:28,000
opportunities that um and and they do

1444
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
have you know access to athletics but

1445
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,440
some of the opportunities even during

1446
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,200
the school day that are provided at

1447
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,960
Brockton High that they don't have some

1448
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,119
of the electives, some of the the the

1449
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,319
specialties. So, it really is it's

1450
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:41,920
different and it's hard to compare. So,

1451
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,119
I would have to think about that a

1452
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,559
little bit more um as far as what

1453
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,319
practices we could share. And actually,

1454
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:50,799
I would probably uh lean on the school

1455
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:52,880
leaders themselves. Like I was saying, I

1456
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,799
think we have promising practices at a

1457
00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:56,559
lot of our different schools that can be

1458
00:57:56,559 --> 00:57:58,160
shared and leveraged. And I think that

1459
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,400
actually goes both ways between Brockton

1460
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,520
High and Brockton Therapeutic Day. and

1461
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,680
uh promise and champion. So, I think

1462
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,000
that it's our job to make sure we're

1463
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,920
leveraging the opportunities that we

1464
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,839
have with our principles in order and

1465
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:13,680
our educators in order for them to share

1466
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,720
those practices.

1467
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,319
>> As a followup that I just thought about

1468
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:18,960
as you were speaking, um one of the more

1469
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,280
unpopular things that I said and

1470
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,480
obviously, you know, I say a lot of

1471
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,079
those, but um so does that not show that

1472
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:27,839
there should be two that we should split

1473
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:29,440
the high school up and maybe have a

1474
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,920
smaller high school? like why are we why

1475
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,920
are we asking the taxpayers to build

1476
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,480
this high school that's so large when

1477
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,000
now you're telling me the data is

1478
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,799
proving that a smaller high school would

1479
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:42,559
be better so why not build two separate

1480
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:43,200
high schools.

1481
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,720
>> So actually no that's not what I said

1482
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,200
because um I said that there are areas

1483
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,880
in um that where BHS has I think it it

1484
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,400
depends on what we're talking about.

1485
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,240
>> We could just get those to that to the

1486
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,599
school. We're just not giving them to

1487
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,040
them right now. Like they don't have a

1488
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,839
gym. They don't have um they should have

1489
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,440
I I believe they should have their own

1490
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,640
sports teams.

1491
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,200
>> I believe that they should be a separate

1492
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,799
high school completely

1493
00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:09,040
>> and I think that's that was proven over

1494
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,799
uh how well they did in their scores.

1495
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,079
>> They are a separate high school

1496
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:13,119
>> but but then they

1497
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:14,720
>> Oh, you mean having their own play in

1498
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,799
the majorettes. They play football. They

1499
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:22,079
>> And then Yes. And then

1500
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,319
so well let me start with the MSBA

1501
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:26,480
question. Um, when we were applying to

1502
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,520
the MSBA, uh, you only get funding for

1503
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,079
one school, right? So, if we got funding

1504
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:34,559
for a new school, it would have to be

1505
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,000
split. So, we would have some students

1506
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,319
who stayed here and then we would have

1507
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:39,920
um a new high school where other

1508
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,799
students would go. And we did, when we

1509
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:45,200
were going through the process, exhaust

1510
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,079
every single exploration of one school,

1511
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:49,680
two schools, where would they sit? And

1512
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,559
so, um, there was a lot of work that

1513
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,480
went into determining that it should be

1514
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,160
one school. Uh, and that included, uh,

1515
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,240
not just the education and the CTE

1516
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,480
programs, um, and the economies of scale

1517
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,920
that were able to provide here at

1518
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,960
Brockton High. Um, [snorts] but it it

1519
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,359
did include like geography and transfer.

1520
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:12,366
Like there were all myriad of um

1521
01:00:12,366 --> 01:00:14,079
[snorts] factors that were included in

1522
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,520
that decision to to build one uh,

1523
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,839
Brockton High. Honestly, if we were to,

1524
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:21,839
let's say we're we were to split it in

1525
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,240
two, I think we would all still agree

1526
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,079
that we would want a new building here.

1527
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:27,680
So ultimately, we would still be

1528
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,200
building two buildings, two new

1529
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,200
buildings, paying and potentially paying

1530
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,440
more in the long run, right? Um because

1531
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,000
then we'd be paying for one now, tearing

1532
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,839
this one down, break building another

1533
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:40,319
one later and when it costs are higher.

1534
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:43,839
So I think all all in all I while I know

1535
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:46,480
it is an incredibly large investment, I

1536
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,040
think that the one large Brockton High

1537
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,440
School was the right way to go. And and

1538
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,000
just for me um as somebody coming to

1539
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,760
Brockton, one thing that I will say that

1540
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,119
I really uh have loved and appreciated

1541
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,760
about Brockton is the level of spirit

1542
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,559
and and and that culture of having it,

1543
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,119
you know, um one large high school that

1544
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,160
sometimes, you know, um can suffer when

1545
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,680
you have two different high schools and

1546
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,119
you've seen things like that like

1547
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:14,880
Newton, like Newton North and South and

1548
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,640
they have this big rivalry and and at

1549
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,720
times that can be nice, I suppose, but

1550
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,319
there is something to be said, I think,

1551
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:23,119
for uh for the camaraderie and the

1552
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:25,200
culture and the the community coming

1553
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,480
around one large high school. Um so

1554
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,559
that's the MSBA question, but then you

1555
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:34,400
asked another question about smaller a

1556
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,040
smaller high school. I think honestly

1557
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,440
what we've done here in Brockton is the

1558
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,880
best of both worlds because you're

1559
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,760
right, there are some um programs and

1560
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:44,960
there are some students that are going

1561
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,480
to flourish more greatly in a smaller

1562
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,000
environment and then there are some who

1563
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,680
are going to be better in a larger

1564
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,119
environment and I think the fact that we

1565
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,680
are offering both of those opportunities

1566
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,720
is actually the best case scenario. Um

1567
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,359
so in my opinion and obviously it's not

1568
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:02,799
my opinion that um is the one that you

1569
01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:06,079
know guides everything but I I actually

1570
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:08,480
uh believe that we're we're doing it

1571
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,400
well and we're doing it right and that

1572
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,520
we um what all we are looking to do is

1573
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,960
make sure that we are improving and

1574
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,880
building upon the foundation we have. So

1575
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,640
I mean a few years ago, five years ago

1576
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,720
there was not a promise academy. So even

1577
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,319
just the development of that school and

1578
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:24,880
the fact that we you know that I think

1579
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,119
demonstrates that Brockton is um is not

1580
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:30,960
just married to like the one large high

1581
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,280
school but isn't just thinking about it

1582
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,599
so um in such a like concrete linear way

1583
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:38,960
of like it's either two high schools or

1584
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,160
one high school like we're thinking

1585
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,079
about it in a more nuanced way that I

1586
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,319
think is more individualized to the

1587
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:45,920
student population we have.

1588
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,440
>> Yeah. I I would just ask that we think

1589
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,079
more about outcomes, student outcomes

1590
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,720
than financial. Uh I know we have to

1591
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,119
think of both, but I think obviously the

1592
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:57,280
student outcomes are important. Um we're

1593
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,520
lucky that we have uh the promise school

1594
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,319
and uh I have two more two more

1595
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:04,000
questions that were actually from what

1596
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,799
you were uh from your report.

1597
01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:09,760
>> Uh do you have the metrics on that

1598
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,720
parent square? I know that there's and

1599
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,720
just so that I fully understand because

1600
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,480
I got conflicting information. So

1601
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,359
>> obviously I get the text a lot of them

1602
01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:23,680
which is good. Um but at the same time

1603
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,799
so if you download the app is it like a social media platform where the

1604
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:31,039
teacher is now because I know in the in

1605
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,680
the last um I just totally forgot the

1606
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,680
name of it. The last uh product that we

1607
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,079
had

1608
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:37,119
>> school messenger.

1609
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:38,000
>> Yes.

1610
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,079
>> Um they they could do pictures. they

1611
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:41,119
would send the pictures and stuff. So,

1612
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,280
is that what you're measuring

1613
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:43,920
from what you're

1614
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,400
>> measuring posts, newsletters? Yeah. So,

1615
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,280
and we do get and I actually get um a

1616
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,920
weekly feed of who was the the top

1617
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,920
poster and what kind of posts were

1618
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,760
provided, what kind of interactions

1619
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,319
happen because it is um a two-way

1620
01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:02,880
communication. Um, and so I can bring um

1621
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,760
to our next meeting uh the analytics uh

1622
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,480
for the full month of September um

1623
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,359
because I was actually uh talking about

1624
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:14,799
them with um Jordan today and he was

1625
01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:15,839
letting me know sort of like the

1626
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:17,599
percentage of the families that are that

1627
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:19,440
are utilizing it and I was able to meet

1628
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,880
with DPAC yesterday evening and and

1629
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,480
there are definitely still kinks that we

1630
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,720
need to work out and and areas that we

1631
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,039
know need improving um for parents

1632
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:30,720
parent square. So, we're still working

1633
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,720
those out, but one of the parents

1634
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,240
actually said that they were able to get

1635
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,319
a newsletter um from the district from

1636
01:04:38,319 --> 01:04:40,240
that was specifically she has a sixth

1637
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,079
grader and it was specifically came a

1638
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,079
sixth grade newsletter to her, but that

1639
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,079
was district level. So, she was very

1640
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:50,319
excited to have that kind of targeted um

1641
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:52,480
uh communication um that came from the

1642
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,400
district. So, not simply just from, you

1643
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,760
know, within your school, you're getting

1644
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,319
it from the the district as well.

1645
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,240
um but in a way that kind of tells you

1646
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,640
what's happening around the district in grade six. So I think it offers us a

1647
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,240
lot of different opportunities and we're

1648
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,920
still trying to figure out all of the

1649
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,520
functionalities. We're actually being

1650
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,280
trained next week um on their attendance

1651
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,520
module which is something we may want to

1652
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,760
utilize or leverage. So we're going to

1653
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,319
be exploring that as well. Um but I can

1654
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:22,319
certainly bring more information about

1655
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:25,520
um how how it's going so far. And is the

1656
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,920
principal at each uh facility are they

1657
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,960
like the moderator of that or is it

1658
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,319
>> Yeah. Yes. I mean different um different

1659
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:38,559
folks have different permissions. So for

1660
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:40,880
example, the principal can communicate

1661
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,160
with everybody. Teachers have the

1662
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,000
permissions to communicate with their

1663
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,240
students. Um, and that's sort of one of

1664
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,599
the things that we're working on right

1665
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,000
now is making sure that

1666
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,400
we all have the correct permissions to

1667
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,319
communicate with who we want to

1668
01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:56,799
communicate and to to change it when we

1669
01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,559
want to because sometimes I may want to

1670
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,160
communicate with this group but not this

1671
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,599
group. So that's what we're working on

1672
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:01,920
now.

1673
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,520
>> Is that is there anything in there where

1674
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,839
the um the school committee would be

1675
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:07,280
able to have access? I have it just

1676
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:08,960
because obviously I have my kids uh one

1677
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,280
of my kids two of my kids in schools.

1678
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,119
Um, but is it something that the school

1679
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:15,440
committee would then be able to like if

1680
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,000
there were

1681
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,280
>> post? Um, so it would

1682
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,960
>> not really post but just like you know

1683
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,400
if there was something that um that it

1684
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,240
kind of keeps me informed a lot more

1685
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,559
than I mean I talk to Mrs. Paul all the

1686
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,079
time anyway but

1687
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,000
>> um keeps it would keep everyone else

1688
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,280
informed. That's all.

1689
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,119
>> Absolutely. And that is our hope is that

1690
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,839
we'll be able to utilize it to um

1691
01:06:35,839 --> 01:06:37,760
communicate out the DPAC meetings to

1692
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,400
communicate out um Yes. So absolutely.

1693
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,440
So if there are school committee

1694
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,280
functions or even the meetings that we

1695
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,839
want to utilize uh parent square to

1696
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:47,520
communicate. Absolutely.

1697
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,359
>> One last question. So the honor band

1698
01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:51,039
festival at Bridgewwater is that open to

1699
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:52,480
the public or is that um

1700
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,359
>> I believe so. I mean I I actually don't

1701
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,480
know. Um I hope so. I'm going. So uh

1702
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,760
hopefully they'll let me in but I can

1703
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:00,240
find out.

1704
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,160
>> Okay. Thank you.

1705
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:02,480
>> Yes.

1706
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,559
>> Thank you Mr. Pina. Uh any other

1707
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:05,680
members? Uh Miss Oliver.

1708
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,200
>> I'm sorry. Can I can I just add one more

1709
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,000
thing?

1710
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,839
>> Go ahead. I I I had to I had to say

1711
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:13,359
thank you to the um custodians. Um they

1712
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:15,200
are they are literally the backbone of

1713
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,000
this uh community of ours and the

1714
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,680
schools. Thank you for what they did in

1715
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,079
the hallway cleaning up uh after that

1716
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:25,680
really bad storm. Um our schools are not

1717
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,440
uh in bad of shape as what you might

1718
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,680
think. Uh and that's because of what

1719
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,920
they do and what facilities does. I

1720
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,119
don't know if Ken's up there, but he

1721
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:34,799
would have just heard me compliment him.

1722
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:36,000
Thank you.

1723
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,920
>> Thank you, Miss Oliver.

1724
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Thank you. Um just a few questions with

1725
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,760
the MCCAST scores. Do you have the data

1726
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,000
for different grades and like what how

1727
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,440
we scored for like math, science, and

1728
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:49,680
English?

1729
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,160
>> Yes. So the the MCCAST presentation that

1730
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,720
um you all get every year. Uh we will be

1731
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,280
doing that again this year. Um and so

1732
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,559
you will be receiving the full

1733
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:01,520
breakdown, the comparison of us from

1734
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,240
last year um and us from surrounding

1735
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,839
districts. so similar to what you've

1736
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,359
received in the past.

1737
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:09,599
>> And also if you actually go on the the

1738
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:11,839
DOE website, you can kind of look

1739
01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:13,440
through and play around with the

1740
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,960
accountability. You can see it for every

1741
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,760
school.

1742
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,920
>> Yeah. Because I'm extremely um proud

1743
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,640
that Brockton did an incredible job

1744
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,960
compared to the state how low they went.

1745
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,600
But we increased our um score level and

1746
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,080
I just wanted to see like how we

1747
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,400
improved from last year to this year and

1748
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,400
is and then see what we did differently

1749
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,239
this year, right? to basically increase

1750
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:35,679
our score. I just want to I can't wait

1751
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:37,839
for that presentation just to basically

1752
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:39,120
say thank you to the leaders and

1753
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,600
educators who has worked really hard to

1754
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,440
basically get us where we where we at.

1755
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:45,600
But definitely it's something to be very

1756
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,199
proud of that we're seeing on the

1757
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:48,799
newspaper that Brockton did an

1758
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:51,040
incredible job. Um also another thing

1759
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,199
that I saw recently is that we're um

1760
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:54,799
competing very strongly with

1761
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:56,960
Southeastern when it comes CTE program.

1762
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,960
Thank you to uh Mr. Macascco for doing

1763
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,679
an incredible job bringing a lot of um

1764
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:04,400
programs to the CTE program. So I think

1765
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,120
we're finally giving competition where

1766
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,359
to certain cities and towns. So I'd like

1767
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:11,600
to see I love to see that. Another thing

1768
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,679
also I do like Parent Square. I think

1769
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:16,080
it's perfect. I like the fact that it's

1770
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,520
very um multilingual. a lot of bilingual

1771
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,319
parents I open house at South that a lot

1772
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,880
of parents that were bilingual was being

1773
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,359
um you know helped to like sign up to

1774
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,279
and they liked it. I like getting all

1775
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,279
the message. I like getting all the

1776
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,560
posted because sometimes that's how I

1777
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,319
update what's going on in the city with

1778
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:35,839
the school district. But I do like it

1779
01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:38,719
and also when you know teachers send me

1780
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:41,120
emails and different message about my

1781
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,640
kids. But I think it's very personal. I

1782
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,759
do like this better than the old system.

1783
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:48,239
And the last thing I want to say is um I

1784
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:51,040
do want to thank um coach Baboni for

1785
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,480
this past Saturday um event. It's

1786
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,080
definitely the second annual. The

1787
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,480
numbers of students that attended has

1788
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,040
totally increased. Um and also to all

1789
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,199
the coaches that went out on Saturday to

1790
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,239
participate and help out all the um

1791
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,159
student adviserss that's also was there

1792
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:11,280
helping and playing with the young kids.

1793
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,280
Just watching like our future Brockton

1794
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,679
High boxers on the field. They were so

1795
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:17,760
happy. They were laughing. They were

1796
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:18,960
giggling. They were playing with each

1797
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,880
other. I think we had over 50 or more

1798
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,360
stu um kids and they really really

1799
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,120
enjoyed themselves and and I do

1800
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,280
appreciate partic um appreciate that

1801
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,040
they're putting more spotlight on girl

1802
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,600
sports. So Saturday was really really

1803
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,600
great. Thank you for the donation. The

1804
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,840
kids did love eating their sandwiches.

1805
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,199
We made sure they didn't eat on the

1806
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,360
field. So that was a good thing. But it

1807
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,120
was a good day. It was hot. It was nice.

1808
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,960
And um continue the great work every

1809
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,520
year. Thanks. Thank you. Any other

1810
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,080
members?

1811
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,480
Seeing none, I have a few things I'd

1812
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:54,000
like to say as well. Um, I'll start with

1813
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,960
the high school. Um, since Mr. Pina

1814
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,440
brought it up, um, I have a few

1815
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,280
constituents of mine that have always

1816
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,159
asked, why don't we build two high

1817
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,480
school, break it down in half, and give

1818
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,040
more individualized, more focused

1819
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,560
attention to our students. Um I I used

1820
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,880
to say that sounds good to me cuz you

1821
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,440
know smaller classrooms, more staffing

1822
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,920
and so on and so forth, but there's a

1823
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,960
lot of um other aspects that we have to

1824
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,120
consider. And one of the things that the

1825
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,960
superintendent said that I think um is a

1826
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,360
good perspective to take is every

1827
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,040
student has their own ways of learning.

1828
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,199
Some do well in smaller spaces, some do

1829
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:39,199
well in larger spaces, but I do like the

1830
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:40,960
idea of having a separate high school.

1831
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,040
I've thought about it a couple times.

1832
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,440
Um, even though there's other things

1833
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,840
such as transportation, you know, access

1834
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,040
and whatnot that comes into play. Um,

1835
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,840
also I lost my access, not access, I

1836
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,400
just got rid of my parents square cuz my

1837
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,239
kid is not here anymore. So, I won't be

1838
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:01,040
able to see all the great um news and

1839
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,239
information shared um through the

1840
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:07,840
system, but I think picking up um from

1841
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,840
that conversation, it would be a good

1842
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,320
way for us to utilize it for information

1843
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,800
sharing um not just with parents, but

1844
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,719
with the whole community. if there's um

1845
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:22,080
a different access for other people that

1846
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,840
don't maybe don't have kids in the

1847
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,920
district but want to stay informed, want

1848
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,800
to participate if we are able to do

1849
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,520
that. Um that came to mind as Miss Pina

1850
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,360
was talking about it utilizing it as

1851
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,000
information sharing and you know a way

1852
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,920
of keeping people updated. Um similar to

1853
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,760
how we share things on our website

1854
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,120
having an app that you'll get a

1855
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,880
notification, hey there's an event going

1856
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,199
on. we're doing a, you know, high school

1857
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,679
project uh conversation this day or

1858
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:53,520
there's a um after school going on and

1859
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,760
what not. So, if that's something we

1860
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,040
could do um or have available and

1861
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,800
accessible to other folks, not just

1862
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,400
parents for their kids, that would be

1863
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,520
great. Um any other comments? Okay,

1864
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,800
seeing none, we'll move on to

1865
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,000
item 3B. Any items to refer to

1866
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,950
subcommittees?

1867
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:17,440
No.

1868
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:19,600
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. I thought we were

1869
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,080
just on A.

1870
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,679
That's C you're talking about, right?

1871
01:13:23,679 --> 01:13:25,040
I'm sorry.

1872
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,040
>> We got A and B. So, we just went

1873
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,880
>> the the bullet points messed me up. I'm

1874
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,400
sorry. So, that's not one, two, and

1875
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,840
three.

1876
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,120
>> Not necessarily. No.

1877
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,239
>> Oh, my [laughter] bad then.

1878
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:35,440
>> Do you have more questions?

1879
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:35,920
>> Yeah, I

1880
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,880
>> Okay, Mr. Pino.

1881
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,440
>> Um, and and I I'll be totally

1882
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:41,120
transparent. I did let you know about

1883
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,840
these because I I don't want to catch

1884
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,480
you off guard and uh make it seem as

1885
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:48,640
though I'm trying to play the gotcha

1886
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,400
game. But um as as we establish your

1887
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,679
goals and indicators, what specific

1888
01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:58,719
measures uh student outcome targets are

1889
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:01,840
you willing to be evaluated against this

1890
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,320
year particularly in literacy um

1891
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,360
mathematics attendance and or lowest

1892
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,960
performing schools? I know that you had

1893
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,960
mentioned attendance and that was

1894
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,560
something that was also brought up in

1895
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,560
the in the report as well. Um but I I

1896
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,880
guess the purpose of this question is

1897
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,760
just because of how poorly our high

1898
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:29,760
school um scored and how um you know we we're doing well in the lower grades

1899
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,199
and I I I have some ideas as to why

1900
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:34,880
we're not doing as well in the upper

1901
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,560
grades. Um and I believe it's across the

1902
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,320
state that that's happening for the same

1903
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:45,040
reason. Um so I I guess

1904
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,120
as as we identify the issues, is that

1905
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,800
something that um we can look at to

1906
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,679
improve? Um I know it's going to cost a

1907
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:59,600
lot more um because it is mostly the ESL

1908
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,199
students that are coming in and then

1909
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:03,280
they are not performing at the same

1910
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,000
level. Um,

1911
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,520
so is is and I'll just leave it at that.

1912
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,080
>> Um, and so yes, and I appreciate so much

1913
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,080
you sending the questions ahead of time.

1914
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,110
Um,

1915
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,600
my answer to that is I would certainly

1916
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,320
be open to um what the committee

1917
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,040
thinks would be good metrics. Um, and so

1918
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,600
I'm certainly, you know, interested in

1919
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,679
the feedback. So, if you have um

1920
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,159
specific smart goals or metrics that you

1921
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:37,520
wanted to send me that um we could think

1922
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,880
about, that's absolutely um that would

1923
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,520
be great. I think certainly demonstrated

1924
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,159
academic growth in the schools that have

1925
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,800
been identified by DESIE as requiring

1926
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,800
targeted assistance um I think would

1927
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,560
be a natural um

1928
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,120
you know one to look at. So may maybe

1929
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,440
more holistically just improvement at

1930
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,280
the targeted assistance schools. Um I we

1931
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,199
or we could do something more specific

1932
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:09,600
to grades. Grade three I know is one

1933
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,360
that you've mentioned before. So

1934
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,280
thinking about grade three across the

1935
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,960
district and our lit literacy um scores

1936
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,520
could certainly be one or um another

1937
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,520
high leverage point could be grade eight

1938
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,840
mathematics because we know that grade 8

1939
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,320
math and algebra are often a predictor

1940
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,679
for graduation rates and and and high

1941
01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:31,760
school completion and um high school

1942
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,400
course taking uh college enrollment STEM

1943
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,840
pathways etc. So, I'm certainly open to

1944
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,280
whatever the committee would be

1945
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,840
interested in

1946
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,120
evaluating me on.

1947
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,239
>> Awesome. And I think uh as as we've

1948
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:51,360
discussed previously that third grade is most important and and eighth grade

1949
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,840
for math as well. I think those would be

1950
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,440
u great measures and I hope that we can

1951
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,600
discuss that further. Uh the last

1952
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,159
question that I had um I know you didn't

1953
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:02,239
want to discuss this but uh regarding

1954
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:05,440
the 2026 transportation

1955
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:07,120
uh deficit.

1956
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,199
Um what was originally budgeted? Uh what

1957
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:14,400
was actually spent? What specifically

1958
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,080
caused the variance? And uh was this

1959
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,719
operational overrun or was this

1960
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:22,960
transportation budget established below

1961
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,640
the uh reasonably anticipated cost to

1962
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,280
providing those services? So, we've

1963
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,199
actually ended the year about where we

1964
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:32,560
thought we would as far as the

1965
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,520
transportation costs at around 22.3. And

1966
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,239
I'll be bringing the final numbers um at

1967
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:40,159
our next meeting. So, we will have our

1968
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:42,239
fiscal up. Well, we're going to have a

1969
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:43,920
transportation subcommittee meeting, I

1970
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,640
believe, um and then we're also going to

1971
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,480
have a fiscal update during our regular

1972
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,360
meeting. Um where the interim CFO for

1973
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,080
the city, Jay Condan, will be coming as

1974
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,080
well. Um and we have been working

1975
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,480
collaboratively with him. So we did end

1976
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:01,280
around on the nonn net school spending

1977
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,920
about where we had imagined but as you

1978
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,400
know um it was underfunded from the

1979
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,080
start. So we said we would need I think

1980
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,440
we actually said we needed more than

1981
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,679
that like 24 and 26 the same as we did

1982
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:15,840
this 25

1983
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:16,159
budget

1984
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:17,920
>> and then this year we asked for more as

1985
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,840
well. Uh but last year I believe we

1986
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,520
received 19. This year we received 17. I

1987
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,960
and now I'm forgetting but I will have

1988
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,239
all those numbers for you when we

1989
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:28,800
present them. So we were underfunded for

1990
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,840
that and that is an area where I very

1991
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,400
much appreciate that um Mr. Condan is

1992
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,159
looking at that looking at how we're

1993
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,679
using circuit breaker wants to be

1994
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,080
collaborative doesn't want it to be a

1995
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,440
situation where we're simply

1996
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:45,679
underfunding to figure it out later. Uh,

1997
01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:48,560
so I very much appreciate that and uh

1998
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,800
we'll be bringing our final numbers

1999
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,679
because the books close um this Friday

2000
01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:57,199
and and we're figuring out sort of um

2001
01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,960
how the city is going to uh fund that

2002
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,600
deficit. Um,

2003
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,040
so yes,

2004
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,199
>> just to be clear because I know and I

2005
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,440
wasn't on the committee um back when

2006
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:11,760
there were some overruns

2007
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,560
uh but just to be clear so um we

2008
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,600
expected these this deficit, we expected

2009
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,320
this to happen and um we fully

2010
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:26,560
anticipate to fund it. So on the non-net

2011
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,560
school spending side, it's it's

2012
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,719
interesting because

2013
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:33,520
what ends up happening is it hits the

2014
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,360
city treasury anyway.

2015
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,239
>> Correct.

2016
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:39,440
>> So on one hand it's a deficit because

2017
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,400
they haven't reclassed it to us to rec,

2018
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,080
you know, but at the end of the day it

2019
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,440
still hits their lines. It hits their uh

2020
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,280
budget. So as long as we're not paying

2021
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,440
it out of the net school spending. So,

2022
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:53,280
there was an area where we had spent

2023
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,960
some out of the net school spending, but

2024
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,480
we again as we're closing the books,

2025
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,120
we're classing exactly where we're

2026
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,440
allowed. Um, but we're reclassing those

2027
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:03,760
expenses. So then now now it'll be all

2028
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,920
on the net school non-net school

2029
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,120
spending side. Um, so at the end of the

2030
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,600
day, it doesn't end up being a deficit

2031
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,520
on our end.

2032
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,440
>> It ends up being one they have to take

2033
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:16,480
care of either way.

2034
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:17,920
>> It's a city deficit then.

2035
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,719
>> Correct. and understanding that non-net

2036
01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:22,239
spending is the city's responsibility

2037
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:22,880
anyway.

2038
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:23,440
>> Correct.

2039
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:26,640
>> Um Okay. All right. Yeah. Thank you.

2040
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,480
>> Any other uh Miss Oliver?

2041
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,040
>> I just wanted u Mr. Peina to clarify the

2042
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,080
ESL comment you made. I'm not sure the

2043
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,080
numbers like what was the question if

2044
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:36,560
you can repeat.

2045
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,640
>> So if you look at Desi uh Desi has all

2046
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,280
the numbers. Uh you can look at uh where

2047
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,400
we dropped. Uh we dropped in certain

2048
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,640
areas. Um and so it's factual data

2049
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,560
that's on the DESIE website.

2050
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,760
>> Okay. Thank you.

2051
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,480
>> Mhm.

2052
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,960
>> Um yes, go ahead.

2053
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,400
>> So um I can certainly look at that data

2054
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,080
point, but one data point that I think

2055
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,320
is important to to note just in general

2056
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,400
is that English learners obviously they

2057
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,280
do perform not as well on MCCAST when

2058
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,800
they're within their first few years of

2059
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,000
being in this country. I mean, I think

2060
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,600
any of us who went to another country in

2061
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,360
the first two years are not going to do

2062
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,360
great on a standardized test. Um,

2063
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,360
however, our former English learners,

2064
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,040
and I believe this is a statistic in

2065
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,560
Massachusetts overall, but former

2066
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,719
English learners actually outperform

2067
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:27,040
their native English-speaking peers once

2068
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,960
they

2069
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,520
become once they fle or become a former

2070
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,400
English learner. So, and and this is for

2071
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,080
all of the reasons that we know like

2072
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,000
bilingualism and dual language. And

2073
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,440
that's why we have um a global studies

2074
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,560
school. And that's why it would be

2075
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,719
amazing if we could expand dual language

2076
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:47,280
because we know that the uh bilingual

2077
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,040
brain works a little differently and is

2078
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,400
able to once catching up it in the

2079
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,159
language is able to demonstrate

2080
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:56,400
proficiency. So when they're not when a

2081
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,400
student who is an English learner is not

2082
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,159
performing well on a test, it is not

2083
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,040
simp it's not because they are not able

2084
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,320
to. It's because they just have not

2085
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,960
reached that level of academic English

2086
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,560
to be able to demonstrate what they

2087
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,520
know. So

2088
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:10,239
>> thank you.

2089
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:12,159
for that clarification. I

2090
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:13,760
think that no matter what country you

2091
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,120
go, if you speak a different language,

2092
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,120
you're not going to score high on a

2093
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,679
MCAST or any other um screening they

2094
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:21,360
have because it's very difficult because

2095
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,800
that's not your, you know, native

2096
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,040
language. But I think that we need to

2097
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,719
look also the other aspects of like a

2098
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:29,760
math science how we're new um comers in

2099
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,400
the ESL um second language or scoring

2100
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,679
because that would be a good thing to

2101
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:35,840
say yeah we might know not know the

2102
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,360
English language but we are able to also

2103
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,600
succeed in science and math. So I think

2104
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,600
that's something that we need to look at

2105
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,840
what the data is what the scores are.

2106
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,239
But I do appreciate that you clarify

2107
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:50,400
that cuz a lot of it after you learn the

2108
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,800
language and able to know your skills of

2109
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,679
writing and you know you are able to

2110
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:58,320
basically score higher and I do apprec

2111
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,320
appreciate the the clarification. Thank

2112
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,360
you, Mu. And then Miss Zach.

2113
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:03,920
>> And

2114
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,510
>> oh,

2115
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,679
go ahead.

2116
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:12,320
>> And as someone that was in the bilingual

2117
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:16,239
program, um I would like that as a

2118
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,560
district we continue to support them in

2119
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,440
the classroom. Uh meaning like can we

2120
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:23,120
have extra teachers there to support

2121
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,320
them? Can we um offer more reading

2122
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,880
opportunities for them to read? So I

2123
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,960
hope that that will be a continuing area

2124
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,960
we will continue to um invest because

2125
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,719
like I said as someone that was in those

2126
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,120
classroom we do need that support. So we

2127
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,920
might be able to do well in math when we

2128
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,480
come from our home country but again for

2129
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:46,480
me I didn't know anything. I couldn't

2130
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,280
even say the single word in English. So

2131
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,159
for me that that boost or that extra

2132
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:55,199
support I think would have um would have

2133
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:57,760
gave me faster to learning the English

2134
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,920
language. So thank you.

2135
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:03,280
>> Thank you. Um two point of information I

2136
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,760
would like to share before we move on.

2137
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,639
Um as far as the transportation aspect,

2138
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:10,719
this committee did request an

2139
01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:12,560
appropriate amount. It just was not

2140
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,040
funded to that level. Uh and the other

2141
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,840
thing is we have not yet voted for the

2142
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,880
new focus indicator. So as uh the

2143
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,040
superintendent said, if anybody has, you

2144
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,520
know, suggestions or recommendations,

2145
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,239
send them over before when we have to

2146
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,880
vote to accept the new focus indicators.

2147
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,880
That way it's all incorporated. If she

2148
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,560
needs to go over any of those, she can

2149
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,920
with us and we can have a final

2150
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,600
discussion.

2151
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,679
Um now we can move on to uh 3B which is

2152
01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:46,070
items to refer to subcommittee.

2153
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,480
» Oh also Mr. Sullivan are you still with

2154
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:50,239
us?

2155
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:51,199
>> Yes I am.

2156
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,520
>> Any questions?

2157
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,870
>> No.

2158
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,000
» All right. Um seeing none we will move

2159
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,320
on to agenda item four which is the

2160
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,639
consent agenda. What's the will of the

2161
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:11,510
committee? [clears throat]

2162
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:12,320
Mr.

2163
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,400
>> Oh, go ahead. Nope. If you had

2164
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:14,960
questions.

2165
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:20,560
>> Uh, can I pull out uh D?

2166
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,199
>> Okay. Uh, is there any other items that

2167
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:26,239
folks want to pull out?

2168
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:29,040
>> We I'd like to just recognize um letter

2169
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,400
B and letter C. Um, so we don't really

2170
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,080
need to pull them up, but I just wanted

2171
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,000
to recognize them and recognize those

2172
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,760
two donations.

2173
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,400
>> Okay. We'll start with Mr. Pin and then

2174
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,480
um let's say Zach, you can recognize

2175
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:43,679
those and then we'll take them all

2176
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:52,480
together. So motion to take um D out of order and discuss it now.

2177
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:54,639
>> Yeah. Um

2178
01:25:54,639 --> 01:25:56,560
so again I I sent this to the

2179
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,320
superintendent beforehand so that she

2180
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,199
would uh be not surprised by the

2181
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:03,760
question. Um so the question is who

2182
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,120
currently performs the functions

2183
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,000
assigned to the uh proposed benefits

2184
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,560
coordinator? What is the fully loaded

2185
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,159
annual cost of this position? And what

2186
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:17,440
analysis uh demonstrates that adding

2187
01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:19,600
another position

2188
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:20,800
uh is

2189
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,800
>> D is not um it's acceptance of donation.

2190
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:25,520
>> Oh no.

2191
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,760
>> Are you looking at the right

2192
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,239
>> we're on you're looking at agenda

2193
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:31,040
>> new business.

2194
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,239
>> You want to new business?

2195
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:33,040
>> My bad.

2196
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,864
>> All right. So in that case we'll

2197
01:26:34,864 --> 01:26:35,520
[laughter] go back.

2198
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,320
>> My bad.

2199
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,239
>> No worries. Uh Miss A.

2200
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:40,080
>> My eyes they're burning.

2201
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,760
>> Thank you. Um so letter B is acceptance

2202
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,840
of donation for back to school teacher

2203
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,159
appreciation event from AJ Deansa

2204
01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:51,520
Foundation and World Vision. Um let me

2205
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,400
see if I can find it here.

2206
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,320
I think my book is a little out of order

2207
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:02,229
so I apologize.

2208
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:04,159
So um it's our pleasure to accept a

2209
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:06,159
generous donation of backpacks, lunch

2210
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:09,120
bags, school Hold on one second. I think

2211
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,719
this is out of order. military.

2212
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:13,440
>> That's it. Um, school supplies, um,

2213
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:15,679
classroom supplies, cups, coffee makers,

2214
01:27:15,679 --> 01:27:18,719
fans, and SEI kits from AJ Debansa, the

2215
01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:20,719
AJ Debansa Foundation, and the World

2216
01:27:20,719 --> 01:27:22,880
Vision as a back to school teacher

2217
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,199
appreciation event for the for the YMCA

2218
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:28,159
in the Brockton public schools. Um,

2219
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:30,400
again, you know, this is one of our

2220
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,840
students that has um is very successful

2221
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,320
right now and he is doing what we're all

2222
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,000
doing, we all try to do is you give back

2223
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,159
to your community. So, you know, we just

2224
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:41,840
wanted to acknowledge that and thank him

2225
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,760
and thank the foundation for remembering

2226
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,000
our school. Um, and then the second one

2227
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,760
is the

2228
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,560
this one um Angela School. So, I happen

2229
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,639
to be talking to the principal that day.

2230
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:59,360
So, that one we have acceptance of

2231
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,840
donation for Angela School from Mr.

2232
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,560
James Wade of Costco wholesale. So,

2233
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,719
thank you to Costco. Um, again, local

2234
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:09,600
businesses remembering our students. So,

2235
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,440
it's um it is our pleasure to accept a

2236
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:14,639
generous donation of $500 along with 160

2237
01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:18,080
backpacks from Mr. James Wade of Costco

2238
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,159
wholesale which will be used to support

2239
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:21,760
our Angelo school students. The

2240
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,320
backpacks will help students or student

2241
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,159
organization and help strengthen the

2242
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:28,159
homeschool connection and the money will

2243
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:30,400
go towards activities and events to

2244
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,000
continue continue to strengthen our

2245
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,239
positive school culture. Um, and this

2246
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:35,840
donation was made possible through the

2247
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,120
generosity of Costco Wholesale. Um, so

2248
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,320
thank you to Costco again. Um, you know,

2249
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,080
it's wonderful to always see whether

2250
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,159
it's our alumni or whether it's local

2251
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:48,320
businesses giving back to our students

2252
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:49,920
and our community and even our staff.

2253
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,600
So, this is awesome. So, we definitely

2254
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:52,719
always want to acknowledge them.

2255
01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:55,280
Hopefully, I I caught everyone, but

2256
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:56,320
thank you.

2257
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,520
>> Thank you. Um, anyone else? Mr.

2258
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:00,480
Rodriguez.

2259
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:02,000
>> Um,

2260
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,920
superintendent, just on the uh on the

2261
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,280
approval of the grants. I know we've

2262
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,920
discussed this um prior to you and also

2263
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,080
when you first arrived, if we can just

2264
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,760
get a breakdown of the grants online

2265
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,199
item, you know, as far as what's being

2266
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,679
spent on salary and supplies. I know

2267
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:18,080
we've we we have done it, but it's uh

2268
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,679
not on this one. So, just want to make

2269
01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:20,800
sure that

2270
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,000
>> Oh, to send it to every

2271
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,840
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

2272
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:24,800
>> Um, thanks.

2273
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,520
>> What's the will of the committee?

2274
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:28,320
>> Mr. Pina,

2275
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,000
>> I'm sorry. I just had one question. I

2276
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,239
found the question. Yes. I apologize for

2277
01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:36,960
my issue with my eyes. Um as as uh as we

2278
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,080
approve these grants and and we end up

2279
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,239
approving uh I mean getting a lot of

2280
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,320
grants. It's a a great deal.

2281
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,639
>> Um I believe the city comm city council

2282
01:29:48,639 --> 01:29:50,719
uh was surprised that we got the amount

2283
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:54,080
in grants as I remember watching that uh

2284
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,679
that happen. So, as as we get this money

2285
01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,360
and we get these grants, what student

2286
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,360
outcomes um are attached to the spending

2287
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,080
and and will the committee uh get those

2288
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,840
reports and to determine whether these

2289
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,400
programs actually work uh before we

2290
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,920
continue to expand them?

2291
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,800
>> Yes. So, when you um write a grant or

2292
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,080
apply for a grant, establishing goals is

2293
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,040
part of uh the grant process and it's

2294
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,440
actually in our grant manual as well. Um

2295
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:25,520
there's a step-by-step framework um

2296
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,840
regarding our expectations for grant

2297
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,679
application, grant management. And so

2298
01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:32,000
each grant that we receive um carries

2299
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,560
outcome and reporting requirements uh

2300
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,880
set by the funer and the administration.

2301
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,639
And it aligns each program to our

2302
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:41,199
district's priorities. So depending on

2303
01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:43,280
the grant's purpose, programs are

2304
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:44,960
measured on student achievement and

2305
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,719
academic growth, attendance and

2306
01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:48,960
engagement, English learner progress and

2307
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,960
language acquisition, access to

2308
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,120
specialized services and interventions,

2309
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,960
college and career readiness indicators

2310
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960
or program participation and completion

2311
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,360
rates. So those are the major areas. So

2312
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,520
before recommending that any grant

2313
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,400
funded program continues um the

2314
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,960
administration will review their the

2315
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,360
outcomes against uh the program's

2316
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,520
targets whether or not the program was

2317
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,760
implemented as it was designed uh the

2318
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,679
participation levels and the alignment

2319
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:17,520
with again our district strategic

2320
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,600
priorities and pro programs that are not

2321
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,760
meeting those targets are adjusted or

2322
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,199
not recommended for renewal. Um and so

2323
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:27,280
uh I can give you some examples of that.

2324
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,520
So for example, last year we received a

2325
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,280
grant from Massachusetts Afterchool

2326
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,280
Partnership or MAP to run afterchool

2327
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,080
programming for students at Champion.

2328
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,280
And so from the first day, uh there was

2329
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,760
tracking on if students were attending

2330
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,679
the program and if they were continuing

2331
01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:45,600
to return to the program. That was one

2332
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,920
of the items that we were looking at. As

2333
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,600
the year went on, more students joined

2334
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,840
and attendance kept climbing. Um so that

2335
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,600
told us that students wanted to be

2336
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,880
there. Um [snorts] then there was survey

2337
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,520
data. Um so they surveyed the students

2338
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,199
about what they enjoyed and what they

2339
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:04,480
wanted the um the program to do better.

2340
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:07,040
And then they we use those answers to

2341
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,639
plan the next round. um parents and

2342
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:12,719
families actually also started to join

2343
01:32:12,719 --> 01:32:14,719
uh in the afterchool activities and so

2344
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:17,679
that was actually an unanticipated um

2345
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:19,760
result but that was great and so that's

2346
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,280
how we knew that the program was working

2347
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,600
was based based on the students u

2348
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,880
participation and their survey results

2349
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,600
um another example uh would be the prism

2350
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,920
grant which includes goal setting action

2351
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,840
planning and monitoring as a regular

2352
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,920
part of the work so one of our k3 goals

2353
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,840
for prism for example is By June 2027,

2354
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,320
at least 73% of students in grades K to

2355
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,840
1, up from 53% in June of 2026, and at

2356
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,320
least 67% of students in grades 2 to

2357
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,040
three, up from 47.5%

2358
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,840
in June of 2026, will meet or exceed the

2359
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,560
end of grade level benchmarks. So again,

2360
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,199
we look at um so we'll set the goals and

2361
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:01,360
then we'll measure the prog measure the

2362
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,239
grant against those goals. Um so for

2363
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:05,920
this one in particular, they'll be

2364
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,760
looking at composite scores of Dibbles

2365
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,719
assessment um

2366
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:12,480
on and and looking at the individual

2367
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:14,080
student groups as well.

2368
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,960
>> Are are we able to um I know there's a

2369
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,480
dashboard for the money side of this,

2370
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,360
but is are we able to see as the

2371
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,760
committee how those are performing? And

2372
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,120
when you said administration, do you

2373
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,760
mean like do you have a a subcommittee

2374
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,360
within your administration that reviews

2375
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,880
the grants or are you part of that? So

2376
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,679
it's the grants director who supports

2377
01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:35,920
the those who are applying for the

2378
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,760
grants and then who are implementing the

2379
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,920
grants and we do have a a and she comes

2380
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,960
and does a quarterly report. So what we

2381
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,880
can do for her next quarterly report is

2382
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,280
she can certainly provide um that

2383
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,120
information on because I know in the

2384
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,800
past few she's been providing here are

2385
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,320
the number of grants we've applied for,

2386
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,199
here's how much we received, um here's

2387
01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:58,880
sort of what they were uh supporting um

2388
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,639
and and things like that. And so what we

2389
01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:02,639
could do for the next one is talk more

2390
01:34:02,639 --> 01:34:03,679
about the goal setting.

2391
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:06,480
>> And lastly, I would just add that um to

2392
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:09,600
put our um colleagues and the council's

2393
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,080
mind at ease and we uh ensure that it's

2394
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,000
we can show what these funds are being

2395
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,040
spent on

2396
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,920
>> and that they're not being um mismanaged

2397
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,440
or misused, which I'm not saying they

2398
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:23,040
are, but I'm just saying

2399
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,880
>> um that they're actually have a a

2400
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,960
purpose and and why we're using them and

2401
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,320
that we need them.

2402
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,639
>> Yes, absolutely. I mean, yes, our grant

2403
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:32,159
funding is really important and we see

2404
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:34,719
what happens, right, when a a grant or a

2405
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:36,239
funding source like for Discovering

2406
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:38,719
Justice doesn't return. So, they do have

2407
01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:41,120
actual impacts on our programming and

2408
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,159
our students. So, thank you. Yes.

2409
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:46,719
>> Any other questions?

2410
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:48,320
>> No. What's the will of the committee as

2411
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,950
far as the consent agenda?

2412
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,719
» Motion to approve um as a whole. Is

2413
01:34:56,719 --> 01:34:58,639
there a B CDE E FG?

2414
01:34:58,639 --> 01:34:59,360
>> Seconded.

2415
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,440
>> Motion has been properly made and second

2416
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,840
to approve consent agenda. I'll read it

2417
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,800
into the record. A approval of minutes

2418
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,239
accounts review subcommittee meeting

2419
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:11,360
July 7, 2026. B accept acceptance of

2420
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:12,639
donation back to school teacher

2421
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:15,040
appreciation event from AJ Debasta

2422
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,040
Foundation and World Vision. C.

2423
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,639
Acceptance of donation Angelo school

2424
01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:22,400
from Mr. James Wade of Costco wholesale.

2425
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,639
D. Acceptance of donation BPS athletic

2426
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:27,360
department from Franklin Cummings Tech.

2427
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,920
Uh F approval of community schools

2428
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,080
advisory board. F E I'm sorry. F is

2429
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,679
approval of Reed's collaborative

2430
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:37,520
quarterly report overview September

2431
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,320
2026. G request for authorization to

2432
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,719
accept proposing expenditures of funds

2433
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:46,800
FY27 21st CC continuation and

2434
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,120
enhancement grant in the amount of

2435
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,390
$678,720.

2436
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,960
Uh FY27 Commonwealth Preschool

2437
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,960
Partnership Initiative grant in the

2438
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:01,110
amount of $671,695.

2439
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,600
FY2721st

2440
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,320
CCLC continuation and enhancement grant

2441
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,560
summer in the amount of $190,000.

2442
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,040
FY27 coordinated family and community

2443
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,400
enhance engagement grant CFCE in the

2444
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:20,149
amount of $158,573

2445
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:24,320
and FY27 CTE frameworks in competency

2446
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,480
based implementation grant in the amount

2447
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,400
of $25,000.

2448
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,159
A motion has been made improperly.

2449
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:31,679
Second, Miss Inte,

2450
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:32,960
>> I actually have a question

2451
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:33,920
>> on the motion.

2452
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,199
>> Yes. Um, I wanted more clarification on

2453
01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:39,440
E and F. I just thought we was only

2454
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:41,760
talking about donations.

2455
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,880
Um, can I just have can I just ask you a

2456
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:45,199
question

2457
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:49,280
>> on the motion? Can I ask a question?

2458
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,679
for so for the community advisory school

2459
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:53,600
board.

2460
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,199
>> Um

2461
01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,199
I wanted to know like what was the

2462
01:36:57,199 --> 01:36:58,719
process

2463
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:01,760
for for creating this this revision?

2464
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:02,320
>> Yes.

2465
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,080
>> And also who was part of it?

2466
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,440
>> Yes. Um so it was a multi-step process

2467
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:11,119
that um where we actually had to look um

2468
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:15,360
and it was guided by uh Dr. um Sariah

2469
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,960
Daros. Um, so the community schools

2470
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,080
advisory board, the the the bylaws and

2471
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,679
the way it was structured before, I

2472
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:25,520
believe was somewhat outdated. That was

2473
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,639
actually something that was brought up

2474
01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:30,159
here at this committee. Um, and so we

2475
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:32,800
she was um wonderful in being able to

2476
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,840
provide a lot of institutional knowledge

2477
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,159
and old documents for how community

2478
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:39,920
schools was actually established in the

2479
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,320
first place, how it evolved over time.

2480
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:43,920
um she actually provided some

2481
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,560
information that Kathy Smith uh had

2482
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,080
provided regarding like again the

2483
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,560
genesis over time. And so basically the

2484
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,960
advisory board

2485
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:54,880
served a community schools that no

2486
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,360
longer exists like in the format that

2487
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:01,679
it's in. And so in updating it, she

2488
01:38:01,679 --> 01:38:03,679
wanted it to be a more meaningful

2489
01:38:03,679 --> 01:38:05,440
process with more meaningful engagement.

2490
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:07,199
Right. Right now I believe some of you

2491
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:09,119
have participated in those meetings. Um

2492
01:38:09,119 --> 01:38:11,440
I believe Miss Oliver and Mr. Rodriguez

2493
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:12,800
have gone to those meetings. They're

2494
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,400
more um reporting out and there's 11

2495
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,560
members and there's not it's a little

2496
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,320
bit unclear what the selection process

2497
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,239
is. Um but we worked on and she went

2498
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:25,600
through several revisions of figuring

2499
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,639
out what would be best um ser what would

2500
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:30,400
best serve the community schools model.

2501
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,560
So it's very it's similar to what we

2502
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,040
already have but is just updated um and

2503
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,440
would be uh more supportive of her

2504
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,719
process. So she worked with her

2505
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:42,080
supervisor, worked with Dr. Labilwa, um

2506
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,480
got feedback from her stakeholders and

2507
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:47,119
put together uh this revision um that

2508
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:48,719
she would like to put into place

2509
01:38:48,719 --> 01:38:50,960
immediately. Uh so she normally does

2510
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,639
have four quarterly meetings, I believe,

2511
01:38:52,639 --> 01:38:54,800
that um y'all would be invited to. You

2512
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,600
would still continue to be on the the

2513
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,119
board. It's just it would go from, I

2514
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:01,440
believe, 11 or 13 members down to seven.

2515
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:03,520
and she's very specific about who would

2516
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,000
be part of that because I believe there

2517
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,520
were there the membership um uh yeah

2518
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,880
didn't serve our current needs

2519
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,320
>> and I'm all about trying to be

2520
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,600
transparent to our community. Can you um

2521
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,440
can you explain to the community the

2522
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:22,719
seven members that that should be part

2523
01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:26,560
of this um this board?

2524
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,080
>> Absolutely. And so I'm happy to read it,

2525
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,880
but also if it would be okay. Um, Dr.

2526
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,560
Daris couldn't be here with us tonight,

2527
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,800
but Matt Campbell is here and so he may

2528
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,560
be able to shed some light on some of

2529
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,520
these uh on the the change in the

2530
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,320
advisory board if that's okay. But I am

2531
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,600
happy to um

2532
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,239
sorry

2533
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:49,440
um

2534
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:54,870
>> ask questions.

2535
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:55,440
Thank you.

2536
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,040
>> Okay. Well, what do you guys want?

2537
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,639
>> You can sit right here.

2538
01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:01,760
>> We are a team.

2539
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,760
Put them on the spot.

2540
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,000
>> I do have additional questions, though.

2541
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,600
>> Well, I'll do the best I can to answer

2542
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:07,840
them.

2543
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,199
>> I appreciate that.

2544
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:12,320
>> Uh, super. Uh, hi.

2545
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,199
>> Hello.

2546
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:14,960
>> I'm Matt Campbell. I'm a coordinator at

2547
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,119
the community schools. Uh, what's

2548
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:18,800
happened in the past is we have a very

2549
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,239
large advisory board committee that has

2550
01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:24,719
it. it's very very difficult to schedule

2551
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:26,719
the quarterly meetings because when you

2552
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:28,960
have a lot of people a lot of people

2553
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,840
have a lot of stuff going on. So what's

2554
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,239
happened really all through last year

2555
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:36,639
and off and on through the I think eight

2556
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:38,159
years I've been part of the community

2557
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:39,679
schools

2558
01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:42,159
uh we you schedule a meeting the

2559
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:44,159
invitations go out as it currently

2560
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,760
stands there's members of the city

2561
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:49,520
council there's community members people

2562
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,320
who used to be parents the it has been a

2563
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,880
very it's it's very difficult to get

2564
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,360
everyone in the same spot at the same

2565
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,600
time I know we've run up against a

2566
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,199
couple years ago

2567
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:02,960
you guys and it wasn't necessarily all

2568
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,600
of you but the school committee had

2569
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,920
subcommittee meetings you know at

2570
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,320
7 6:30 we would have a meeting at 6:00

2571
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,080
which okay you're not that's that's

2572
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,920
difficult thing so we've had a lot of

2573
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,840
scheduling problems uh as the

2574
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,600
superintendent said this community

2575
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,639
schools was founded eons ago when this

2576
01:41:22,639 --> 01:41:25,600
building opened and for those of you

2577
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,600
that don't know it is the deal that got

2578
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,480
this high school made

2579
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:32,400
This high school was controversial when

2580
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,880
it was open because it was moving from

2581
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,480
downtown over to the west side. And the

2582
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:39,920
one of the things that got this high

2583
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,239
school approved and built was the

2584
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:44,080
agreement that the community school all

2585
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,239
the other elementary schools and over

2586
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:48,560
time it's grown into the junior highs

2587
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,159
will be open for the community

2588
01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:55,199
at night many nights during the week.

2589
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:57,199
Now obviously over time the community

2590
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:00,239
schools has evolved. Uh what's Dr. De

2591
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:03,280
Barrow is trying to do is get a workable

2592
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,920
group to kind of be a steering committee

2593
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,280
for what we do. Uh and what we do is I

2594
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:10,960
think as all of you know and I think

2595
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,119
most people that are watching at home

2596
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:16,880
know we have a very wide and varied sort

2597
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,600
of platform and you know the British

2598
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:24,239
would say our brief is extensive. Uh

2599
01:42:24,239 --> 01:42:25,840
Dr. Dr. Dearis has outlined she would

2600
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,760
like a s a designate from the

2601
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,520
superintendent. In the past, we've

2602
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,280
always had an administrator outside the

2603
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,920
community schools on it. Uh one city

2604
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,639
counselor at large or a mayor's

2605
01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:38,560
designate. We've have ward counselors

2606
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,679
before, but if that represents one ward,

2607
01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:42,960
it would be helpful if we had somebody

2608
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,119
who sort of is responsible for the whole

2609
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:47,920
city. And if they're unable, I think the

2610
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,560
mayor's designate sort of covers that.

2611
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:53,280
uh a school committee member which would

2612
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,000
obviously be you all of you uh the

2613
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:57,679
director of the community schools sort

2614
01:42:57,679 --> 01:42:59,119
of chairs the meeting and runs the

2615
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:01,920
meeting not not dissimilar to what uh

2616
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,119
Dr.

2617
01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:05,520
does in front of all of you. Uh and

2618
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,199
three community members uh ideally

2619
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:11,600
people that are in the school system

2620
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,800
that are have children in the school cit

2621
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,440
system reside in Brockton. So they kind

2622
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,239
of get the idea of people being inside

2623
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:23,679
the schools but also in the community

2624
01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:26,400
have kids coming up or in the school

2625
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,480
system. So they're sort of, you know,

2626
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:29,840
rather than just doing the same thing

2627
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:31,360
every year, they provide a little bit

2628
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,000
more insight as to what parents want,

2629
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,880
what the kids want, what people need,

2630
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:41,830
and how we are going forward.

2631
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,960
» Um, well, thank you for clarifying the

2632
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,560
community members because when you say

2633
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,840
community members, I'm just thinking

2634
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,639
um parents that's not working in the

2635
01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:56,239
schools or caregivers. And I think in

2636
01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:59,440
order for us to allow a voice to be

2637
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:03,040
heard, um I guess my question to you is

2638
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:08,000
uh why are we specifically well prefer

2639
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,480
someone that's working in our school to

2640
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:13,119
be part of this? The reason why is

2641
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:15,280
because we also have that they can get

2642
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,800
compensated.

2643
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,400
Um

2644
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:19,679
which is great, right? Like we don't

2645
01:44:19,679 --> 01:44:23,360
want anyone to work for free. Uh but I I

2646
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,920
do want more clarification first on

2647
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,480
paying them. But why not allow this

2648
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:32,159
opportunity to be for those that's not a

2649
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:34,320
someone that works within our schools?

2650
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,320
>> We are a school I can answer that

2651
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,800
actually. Hopefully it's an acceptable

2652
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:43,840
answer. Uh we are a school program.

2653
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,239
There is a lot of people that would you

2654
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:48,239
know that feel the community schools is

2655
01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:50,239
outside of the Brockton public schools

2656
01:44:50,239 --> 01:44:53,360
or that we're on or that we are run by

2657
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,800
the city or we are a nonprofit that is

2658
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,080
existing and there are some fine

2659
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,880
nonprofits. We are run by the schools.

2660
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,560
What we have found over the course of

2661
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,600
time is the best advice we get is when

2662
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,719
with a smaller group of people is to get

2663
01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:10,960
people who sort of understand how the

2664
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,800
school system works and also have

2665
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,119
children in the school system. So they

2666
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:19,119
sort of bridge both you know the school

2667
01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:21,440
system because there's a lot of stuff

2668
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:23,520
that parent you know internal workings

2669
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:28,320
and processes that you know

2670
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,400
need to be followed. They have an

2671
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,760
understanding of that. They also have

2672
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,840
all the parent perspectives of, you

2673
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,920
know, going to little league on a Friday

2674
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,719
night or going to youth soccer on a

2675
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:41,199
Saturday morning, going to the play,

2676
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,280
going to the art, you know, whatever art

2677
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,440
program here. So, what we're trying to

2678
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:47,679
do is hit as many different groups

2679
01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:51,040
because a lot of our a lot of people in

2680
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:52,480
the community schools that use the

2681
01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:57,199
community schools are

2682
01:45:57,199 --> 01:45:58,880
part of the community, but they're also

2683
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,040
working here as part of the school

2684
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,360
system. They're also working as part of

2685
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,960
the the city. and we're trying to get as

2686
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,880
many different perspectives and as many

2687
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,960
different ideas

2688
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:12,639
while still sort of maintaining our

2689
01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:16,320
presence as a school department.

2690
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,639
>> I'm still struggling with that part.

2691
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:21,280
Well, um, can we try to figure out if we

2692
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,760
for the three community members? I guess

2693
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,119
I understand where you're coming from,

2694
01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:26,800
right? like the that we would like

2695
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:30,719
parents that are teachers to be part of

2696
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:33,520
this, but I also don't want the ones

2697
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,400
that wants their voice to be heard that

2698
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,960
not in our school um that's not inside

2699
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:42,000
of our schools to miss this opportunity.

2700
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,560
So like for example, I do have a lot of

2701
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,280
parents that's part of the DPAC and they

2702
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,199
have been asking how can they be

2703
01:46:49,199 --> 01:46:52,239
involved? How can they um voices be

2704
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:56,000
heard? Um, are we open to instead of

2705
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,679
three community members to only be

2706
01:46:57,679 --> 01:46:59,840
people that work in our schools, can we

2707
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,920
allow two to be two of them to be part

2708
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:09,119
of the school system and one from a

2709
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,600
parent advisory group that is invested.

2710
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,679
I do understand about the scheduling

2711
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:15,520
because it happens here with us too,

2712
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,600
right? Scheduling with multiple people

2713
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,280
takes time and a lot of times things

2714
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,000
don't get done. But we do have a lot of

2715
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,960
invested parents like I said the one

2716
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:28,880
that's part of um a parent advisory

2717
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,119
group. Can we start tapping into them to

2718
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:34,800
see is this something that um they want

2719
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,199
to be part of? And now if they are not

2720
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:39,280
and we can't find anybody of course I

2721
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,520
want us to move forward. So is that

2722
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,560
something that you can think about and

2723
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,119
explore even if it's not this year is

2724
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:49,520
that something that we can start? I'm

2725
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,000
not in a position right here to approve

2726
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,159
or disapprove anything. Certainly

2727
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:55,760
something I can bring back to the

2728
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,639
superintendent and Dr. Dearos for

2729
01:47:58,639 --> 01:48:00,560
consideration. I don't have the

2730
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,560
authority to sit here and say yes, we're

2731
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,320
going to have somebody from the uh

2732
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,440
special education pack or you know the

2733
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,840
George school or any other pack or any

2734
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,159
of the other packs beyond the community

2735
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:16,400
schools. In the past, I know going back

2736
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,560
several years, I used to go to a lot of

2737
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,320
the pack meetings. When I first got this

2738
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,080
job, one of the things that I was asked

2739
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,560
to do was this actually predates Dr.

2740
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,280
Deberos. I was assigned to go to a lot

2741
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,520
of the pack meetings to try and re, you

2742
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,159
know, that is something that I think we

2743
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:34,239
could revisit as well. And I can, you

2744
01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:36,000
know, I'm sure we could all do that, but

2745
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,560
I can bring that to Dr. Dearos.

2746
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:42,400
>> I appreciate that. Uh again um I am a

2747
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,040
parent but I'm also I do try to make it

2748
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,880
a priority to attend these pack

2749
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,960
meetings. Uh and one of the ongoing

2750
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,520
concern is how can they voice be heard

2751
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,280
and I think this would be a great start

2752
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,880
in a um and a great opportunity. Um, so

2753
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,600
I don't have any more questions for this

2754
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,239
for today, but I also don't I'm not sure

2755
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:06,159
if we're ready to vote if I feel like

2756
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:08,560
there's some pending

2757
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,199
clarification as far as the three

2758
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:14,159
community members. I mean, I'm open for

2759
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:16,320
a discussion from you guys and to see

2760
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,880
how we can go about this.

2761
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,199
>> Um, Mr. Rodriguez,

2762
01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:25,360
>> thank you. um you can pull it out um for

2763
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,600
further review or um recommendations and

2764
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:28,719
take it up on the next committee

2765
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:30,239
meeting. Just need to make the motion

2766
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:32,560
put on the floor. But this is I believe

2767
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,040
this is the second time that we're

2768
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:36,480
restructuring community schools advisory

2769
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:37,920
board. I remember when I first got on

2770
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,760
there was about like 20 something to 30

2771
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:40,480
members

2772
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:43,600
>> since I've been in I started in I think

2773
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,360
2019.

2774
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,199
This is the second restructuring. We

2775
01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:49,520
went from over 20 people at the first

2776
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,280
meetings down to 13. And it is still a

2777
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,679
struggle to get

2778
01:49:55,679 --> 01:50:00,320
we at that point when we had 20 we had

2779
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,520
a wide variety of people and it was very

2780
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,679
difficult to schedule a meeting. So we

2781
01:50:05,679 --> 01:50:07,600
are trying to hone down.

2782
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,639
>> Yeah. Um my my only recommendation would

2783
01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:13,840
be I know the committee we've added uh

2784
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,760
second members to some of the you know

2785
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,440
through save our sports and um

2786
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:21,520
uh other committees. So I I would like

2787
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,760
to see two members of this committee uh

2788
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,159
remain on uh community schools and I do

2789
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:30,400
agree with um member CentO to uh look at

2790
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:31,600
other options of how we want to

2791
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:32,719
structure it because that you know we're

2792
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:34,080
the final approval on it. So any

2793
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,159
recommendations uh we could forward it

2794
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:38,480
to the superintendent um to get

2795
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:41,440
something teed up. So

2796
01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:42,719
>> Miss Isak,

2797
01:50:42,719 --> 01:50:44,639
>> thank you. Um actually, [clears throat]

2798
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:47,280
um Mr. Rodriguez touched base on two of

2799
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,360
the items I was going to mention is um

2800
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,480
the way this was written, I read it as

2801
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:55,280
three community members, not BPS

2802
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:56,159
employees.

2803
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:58,000
>> Yeah. So that's how I understood it

2804
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,719
because I do agree we should have the

2805
01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:01,840
community and if you want to have

2806
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,199
employees that's fine but I read it as

2807
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:07,360
community members within our community

2808
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,119
parents or those that want to advocate

2809
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:12,560
for our students. And then in our

2810
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,639
subcommittee assignments we do have two

2811
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:16,560
members. So that is part of our

2812
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,800
subcommittee. So we do have the two

2813
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:19,920
members there. And one other

2814
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:21,840
recommendation I would make because it

2815
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,199
kind of is contradicting but um we all

2816
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:28,000
serve different wards and I think we

2817
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:29,199
shouldn't just limit it to city

2818
01:51:29,199 --> 01:51:31,199
councilors because that's only four. We

2819
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:33,360
should also just um city councils at

2820
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,600
large. I think it should be rewarded and

2821
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:40,239
have it be city counselor um because we

2822
01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:42,000
I get phone calls for all the schools

2823
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,520
but if there's an issue I will reach out

2824
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,360
to that school committee member first

2825
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,960
and work with them and bring it to their

2826
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,360
attention. So, there was some rewarding

2827
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,760
here. Um, that was a little different,

2828
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:52,800
but I thought it was going to be

2829
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,080
community members. The way this was

2830
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:55,679
written, I didn't realize it was just

2831
01:51:55,679 --> 01:51:58,000
going to be based on our, you know,

2832
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,480
employees. Um, and I do remember cuz I

2833
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:02,560
served that was the the year I served on

2834
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,320
community schools and there was always

2835
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,000
scheduling conflicts and it was just I

2836
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:07,440
don't think we ever met to be honest

2837
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:09,440
with you. Um, because it just kept

2838
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:10,960
getting cancelled. So, it is hard to

2839
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,360
coordinate. But, do they have to have a

2840
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,280
quorum? I mean, I do they have the

2841
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,040
bylaws as far as community schools,

2842
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:18,000
>> you have to have a quorum.

2843
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:19,840
>> Yeah. What is their quorum? The way that

2844
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,440
the bylaws are written, can we see a

2845
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:22,639
copy of the bylaws?

2846
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:24,400
>> I don't have it in front of me. I I

2847
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,520
think right now there's either 11 or 13

2848
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,000
people on the committee and I want to

2849
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,560
say the quorum is well be more than 50.

2850
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,639
It's either six or seven. It's more than

2851
01:52:34,639 --> 01:52:35,040
seven.

2852
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,040
>> Yeah, I would definitely like to um I

2853
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:38,960
would, you know, with Miss Inte, Mr.

2854
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,560
Rodriguez and any other member, I would

2855
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,480
make a recommendation to remove this for

2856
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:44,000
further discussion just so we can get

2857
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,320
some clarification, review the bylaws

2858
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,960
because again it was one member for

2859
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,920
school committee and we did make we did

2860
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,639
uh a revision and add an additional

2861
01:52:54,639 --> 01:52:57,040
school committee member um to make sure

2862
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,400
there was representation at the

2863
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,679
meetings. So whatever you know the will

2864
01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:03,280
of the committee but I [clears throat]

2865
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:04,800
definitely would would prefer a little

2866
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,880
more info on this. With that in mind,

2867
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:08,400
then we would need to withdraw the

2868
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:09,440
motion on the floor.

2869
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:11,040
>> I will withdraw the motion.

2870
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,040
>> Who second it?

2871
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:14,960
>> Mina. Second it.

2872
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:15,840
>> Um,

2873
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,679
>> withdraw. Um, now I'll take a motion to

2874
01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:22,800
remove and postpone item E, approval of

2875
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,639
community schools advisory board, if

2876
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:26,719
that's the will of the committee.

2877
01:53:26,719 --> 01:53:29,280
Did Miss Antio have a second question or

2878
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,159
was it just a

2879
01:53:30,159 --> 01:53:33,599
>> It's for um the reads collaborator but

2880
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:35,360
if you want to take a motion on this

2881
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:36,560
>> we can take a motion post

2882
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,320
>> and then come back to my question. Yes.

2883
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:41,280
>> Yes. What's the will of the committee?

2884
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:42,960
>> She has to put a motion on.

2885
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,239
>> Yes. I need a motion

2886
01:53:46,239 --> 01:53:49,599
>> the motion to take out

2887
01:53:49,599 --> 01:53:52,159
>> item E and postpone it to next meeting.

2888
01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:53,840
>> You just said it

2889
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,040
>> motion as stated.

2890
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,239
>> Thank you. Second.

2891
01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:57,920
>> Motion has been properly made in second.

2892
01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,199
Miss Conteo,

2893
01:53:59,199 --> 01:53:59,599
>> yes.

2894
01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:00,320
>> Miss Oliver,

2895
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:00,639
>> yes.

2896
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:01,440
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2897
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:01,760
>> yes.

2898
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:02,480
>> Miss Azac,

2899
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:02,800
>> yes.

2900
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:03,599
>> Mr. Pina,

2901
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:04,159
>> no.

2902
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,480
>> Mr. Sullivan,

2903
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:07,119
>> yes.

2904
01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:09,920
>> I'm a yes. As well, it carries. Um, now

2905
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:11,360
we can go into the

2906
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:12,159
>> Thank you.

2907
01:54:12,159 --> 01:54:14,320
>> F.

2908
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,040
>> Um, my question is for the Ree

2909
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,520
Collaborative. Um, thank you for

2910
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,719
bringing this um forward. I know that we

2911
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:24,960
spoke about this um and I understand

2912
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,320
this is our third year that we are

2913
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,800
partnered with them um and I'm sure this

2914
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,239
business this has been a a critical uh

2915
01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:38,239
partnership. So my question for you is

2916
01:54:38,239 --> 01:54:39,920
um

2917
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:41,920
my understanding is that the rea was

2918
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,199
chosen from several collaboratives um

2919
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:48,800
years ago and my question to you is have

2920
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,440
you been happy with them? Um and two uh

2921
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,599
would you would there ever be a reason

2922
01:54:55,599 --> 01:54:57,840
for us to switch? So if you can educate

2923
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:58,880
us on that.

2924
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,840
>> Yes, absolutely. So uh mo many school

2925
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,400
districts do um choose to be part of

2926
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,880
collaboratives because it does provide

2927
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,560
us the ability to have services that we

2928
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:12,880
can't provide um within the school

2929
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,480
system and also provides us with

2930
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,679
additional you know uh services and

2931
01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:19,520
testing that we wouldn't be able to

2932
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:23,679
provide. And so I actually recently um

2933
01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:25,520
went back and watched one of the I think

2934
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,280
one of the meetings where Dr. Labila was

2935
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:28,480
presenting on some different

2936
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,320
collaboratives and and the committee

2937
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,320
chose the Reeds collaborative. Um and so

2938
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,719
I think we are starting our third year.

2939
01:55:34,719 --> 01:55:36,480
Um and you do receive these quarterly

2940
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,840
reports just to you know um keep you all

2941
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,840
a breast of what is going on. They have

2942
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,239
board meetings very similar to this uh

2943
01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:45,840
where superintendent and special

2944
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,159
education directors will uh go to the

2945
01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:52,320
meetings um and you know they they we

2946
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,599
vote on their uh approvals for new staff

2947
01:55:55,599 --> 01:55:58,320
and hiring and again very similar to

2948
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,040
this board. Uh we have been very happy

2949
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,280
with uh the reads collaborative and the

2950
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,040
services they provided. In fact, we have

2951
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,639
actually uh expanded sort of um the

2952
01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:11,040
testing support that we get from them.

2953
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,800
So, it certainly and there is because

2954
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,679
we're a collaborative board me uh member

2955
01:56:15,679 --> 01:56:20,719
um it it does end up being um

2956
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:24,000
being more financially uh viable for us

2957
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,520
to be able to provide these services

2958
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:27,360
because we're part of the collaborative.

2959
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,760
Um so, yes, we are very happy uh with

2960
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,520
the collaborative. They're very uh

2961
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,520
professional and organized. they address

2962
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,360
issues in a timely manner. They actually

2963
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:38,400
recently built a new facility. Um, and

2964
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,119
so it's it's been a great collaboration.

2965
01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:42,960
It's that's a great question about if

2966
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,960
there were ever a time we wanted to

2967
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,719
switch collaboratives. Absolutely. I

2968
01:56:46,719 --> 01:56:48,639
believe that would be within our purview

2969
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:51,040
if we were for some reason not happy

2970
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,840
with our collaborative. Uh, but um, it

2971
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:55,679
has been an extremely positive

2972
01:56:55,679 --> 01:56:57,280
experience and they have been very

2973
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,599
responsive to our needs and they have

2974
01:56:59,599 --> 01:57:01,520
served our students very well. I'm happy

2975
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,000
to hear that the partnership continues

2976
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,560
to be strong and that it is supporting

2977
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,800
our district. So, it sounds like for

2978
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:10,800
right now, no changes needed. We're just

2979
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,239
going to keep going, which is great.

2980
01:57:12,239 --> 01:57:14,080
Thank you. I don't have any more

2981
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,040
questions now. We can get back to

2982
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,840
>> any other members. See none, I'll take a

2983
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,360
motion.

2984
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:26,080
>> Motion to approve agenda A B C D FG.

2985
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:27,599
>> Our motion has been made. Is there a

2986
01:57:27,599 --> 01:57:28,800
second?

2987
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,880
>> Second. Motion has been properly made

2988
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,119
and second. Um, I've already read the

2989
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:36,000
same into the record. Miss Conteo,

2990
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,280
>> yes. Miss Oliver,

2991
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:37,599
>> yes.

2992
01:57:37,599 --> 01:57:38,480
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2993
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:38,880
>> yes.

2994
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:39,760
>> Miss Azac,

2995
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:40,080
>> yes.

2996
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:40,880
>> Mr. Pina,

2997
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:41,360
>> yes.

2998
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,520
>> Mr. Sullivan,

2999
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:44,080
>> yes.

3000
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,960
>> I'm a yes as well. It carries. We will

3001
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,840
move on to agenda item five, unfinished

3002
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,440
business. Is there any unfinished

3003
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:54,239
business?

3004
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:56,639
Seeing none, we'll move on to agenda

3005
01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:00,159
item six, new businesses. We have items

3006
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:04,719
A, B, C, D, and E. Um,

3007
01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:06,639
there's a few that we actually will be

3008
01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:10,960
taking out of this uh list, but I would

3009
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,639
like to take a motion to approve the

3010
01:58:12,639 --> 01:58:14,800
ones that Miss Azac,

3011
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:19,040
>> I'd like to remove um letter B

3012
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:20,480
for for discussion if possible.

3013
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:22,639
>> I was going to give it to you anyways.

3014
01:58:22,639 --> 01:58:24,800
Um

3015
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,880
in that case, you can go ahead.

3016
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,280
>> Okay. Um so earlier this evening around

3017
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,639
six o'clock uh myself, Mr. Gomes um and

3018
01:58:32,639 --> 01:58:34,239
Miss Contento met for the building

3019
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:37,360
naming subcommittee meeting and um we

3020
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:41,199
had uh councelor Shirley Asac um

3021
01:58:41,199 --> 01:58:44,560
attended and so did uh Nancy Tucker and

3022
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:48,159
a few others that um spoke about uh Dr.

3023
01:58:48,159 --> 01:58:53,760
Appling and um the recommendation to not

3024
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,760
change the name of the street but to add

3025
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,320
a memorial plaque um and name it Dr.

3026
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,400
Appan. Believe it was Dr. Apple M her

3027
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,080
middle initial. Um

3028
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,159
>> so recommendation was made. It was

3029
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:10,960
wonderful. We got to hear from um you

3030
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,280
know sorority sisters uh part of but

3031
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,040
there's a chapter that's here um in

3032
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,320
Brockton. We heard from friends, family

3033
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,880
and it was wonderful to acknowledge Dr.

3034
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,480
Appling and um the leg the legacy that

3035
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,800
she left behind. We do have many many

3036
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,960
educators, many many staff over the

3037
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:32,000
years that you know will be remembered

3038
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,760
down the road but you know tonight was

3039
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,159
about Dr. Appling and you know the

3040
01:59:36,159 --> 01:59:38,000
committee made a recommendation uh Mr.

3041
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,239
Gomes made a motion and it was seconded

3042
01:59:40,239 --> 01:59:41,840
by Miss Centeo to move this to the

3043
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,520
committee of a whole to make a

3044
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,719
recommendation to um

3045
01:59:46,719 --> 01:59:49,199
name Memorial Drive which is the

3046
01:59:49,199 --> 01:59:51,360
entrance off of Forest A. So it's

3047
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,480
Memorial Drive to name um put a plaque

3048
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:58,480
at the Memorial Drive signage um reading

3049
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,440
um

3050
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:05,280
Dr. Claire M. Appling Way and if the

3051
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,760
committee if we could vote on that this

3052
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,280
evening. Um if anyone has any questions

3053
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:14,320
or um

3054
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:16,960
you know it was it was favorably moved

3055
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,800
to the committee of a whole for further

3056
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,840
discussion and for potential vote. And

3057
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,040
we would if if it passes tonight then we

3058
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,520
would like to have this uh taken care of

3059
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:33,520
before the end of the year. have the memorial plaque put out

3060
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:34,880
>> any uh Mr. P

3061
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:38,880
>> make a motion to um to pass uh making

3062
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,280
that the memorial memorial way whatever

3063
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:42,320
she said over there

3064
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,560
>> Dr. Appling Mr.

3065
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,400
>> Claire M. App

3066
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:47,599
>> second if I can.

3067
02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:48,560
>> A motion.

3068
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,440
>> I feel like it would be nice if some of

3069
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,920
the members here can hear one thing or

3070
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,440
two about her. I think for me the

3071
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,000
takeaway was that she was the first

3072
02:00:58,000 --> 02:00:59,679
woman in leadership role here at

3073
02:00:59,679 --> 02:01:03,440
Brockton Brockton High. And I feel like

3074
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,760
we all should hear that piece um because

3075
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:07,599
that's important. It's also important

3076
02:01:07,599 --> 02:01:11,119
for us women um to continue to take

3077
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:14,960
bigger lead bigger role in all settings.

3078
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,360
So um like you said there was many

3079
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:20,080
friends and families that was here some

3080
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,239
of them were colleague

3081
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:26,239
>> um so just wanted to make that statement

3082
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:30,639
before we um say yes and I'm ready.

3083
02:01:30,639 --> 02:01:32,800
>> Absolutely. I will um I'm going to try

3084
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:36,480
to see Miss Tucker had uh emailed me her

3085
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,239
presentation and I actually I just

3086
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:42,320
logged off so give me two seconds. Um I

3087
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:45,760
will go on. You know Dr. Appling um was

3088
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,760
52 years of service at Brockton public

3089
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,880
school system. Um you know she was

3090
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,119
appointed to appointed one of the four

3091
02:01:53,119 --> 02:01:55,440
original house masters back then. That's

3092
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,040
what we called them as housemasters. So,

3093
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,840
she served she was with us from 1970 to

3094
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,440
1999.

3095
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:03,599
Um, you know, she she moved through the

3096
02:02:03,599 --> 02:02:06,719
ranks. Um, she was over at West it was

3097
02:02:06,719 --> 02:02:08,880
West Junior High School back then. Then

3098
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,560
she went to the high school. It says

3099
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,960
that she transferred in 1962 to Brockton

3100
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,679
High School. Um, but just hearing about

3101
02:02:15,679 --> 02:02:18,800
um I would really love to

3102
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,880
read some of the items here, but again,

3103
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,639
those can watch it at the previous

3104
02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:24,800
meeting. I mean they talked about you

3105
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,599
know we saw many of us saw Dr. Ablin and

3106
02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:30,159
I'll be honest it was intimidating um

3107
02:02:30,159 --> 02:02:35,840
she was a very strong strong um

3108
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:38,639
you know principal here and to hear the

3109
02:02:38,639 --> 02:02:41,920
soft side of Dr. Appling was was amazing

3110
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:43,599
and I just and I I mentioned it during

3111
02:02:43,599 --> 02:02:45,119
the meeting when I first [clears throat]

3112
02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:46,800
came on to the committee I just remember

3113
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:48,560
I I was sitting next to her and I'm like

3114
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,400
who would have ever thought here's me

3115
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:53,119
class of 91 sitting Dr. next to Dr.

3116
02:02:53,119 --> 02:02:55,119
Appling and and I was like so

3117
02:02:55,119 --> 02:02:56,480
intimidated like I was nervous and then

3118
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,080
I just looked over at her and she's like

3119
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:02,159
she was so excited that Brockton public

3120
02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:04,480
schools still reaches out to her. They

3121
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,639
were reaching out to her, inviting her

3122
02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:08,320
to the events and she was just so

3123
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,360
honored to still have this welcome uh

3124
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,760
invitation to the events and to be there

3125
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,280
for our students. And I I believe it was

3126
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:19,760
the superintendent's um you know they for the seniors they have the book

3127
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,679
awards and I remember sitting next to

3128
02:03:21,679 --> 02:03:23,599
her for that and after just leaving

3129
02:03:23,599 --> 02:03:25,040
there I was just like oh my god she's

3130
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:26,719
like the sweetest thing ever and then

3131
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:30,480
listening to some of the um some of the

3132
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,159
people that were here and just talking

3133
02:03:32,159 --> 02:03:34,320
about

3134
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,040
her legacy and what she has left um for

3135
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,440
Brockton. Yes, we have many many people

3136
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,599
that need to be acknowledged but to

3137
02:03:41,599 --> 02:03:44,239
today was about her. So, I mean this I

3138
02:03:44,239 --> 02:03:46,080
can read it quickly. It's it's about a

3139
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,239
page and a half. Um, you don't want me

3140
02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:50,400
to read it? [laughter]

3141
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:50,800
>> Come on.

3142
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:52,239
>> They can go watch the meeting if

3143
02:03:52,239 --> 02:03:53,440
>> they can go watch it. But she went

3144
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:56,880
everything from, you know, uh helping

3145
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:58,480
out the kids in in in her neighborhood

3146
02:03:58,480 --> 02:03:59,760
in the community through the holidays

3147
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,239
and stuff and camps and it was just a

3148
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:03,520
different side of her. So, I would

3149
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:05,440
definitely definitely

3150
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:07,440
>> recommend that people just go watch the

3151
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,040
um building naming subcommittee and

3152
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,679
listen listen to some of the

3153
02:04:11,679 --> 02:04:15,280
>> um statements people were making cuz you

3154
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,199
know this is her legacy and honestly she

3155
02:04:17,199 --> 02:04:19,225
would be she'd be in awe you know having

3156
02:04:19,225 --> 02:04:20,239
[clears throat] this. So,

3157
02:04:20,239 --> 02:04:21,760
>> thank you Miss Azac.

3158
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:22,080
>> Thank you.

3159
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,080
>> Um a motion has been properly made in

3160
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,159
second. Miss Inu,

3161
02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:26,480
>> yes.

3162
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:27,280
>> Miss Oliver,

3163
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:27,599
>> yes.

3164
02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:28,719
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

3165
02:04:28,719 --> 02:04:29,840
>> yes. Miss Azac,

3166
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:30,800
>> yes. Mr. Pina,

3167
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:31,119
>> yes.

3168
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:33,199
>> Mr. Sullivan.

3169
02:04:33,199 --> 02:04:33,679
>> Yes.

3170
02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:37,440
>> I'm a yes as well. It carries. Uh be I

3171
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:39,679
do apologize. I missed item A, which is

3172
02:04:39,679 --> 02:04:41,679
discussion potential vote bid review

3173
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:44,639
subcommittee meeting uh September 22nd

3174
02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:47,199
which was an off day. So we didn't get

3175
02:04:47,199 --> 02:04:48,880
to bring that to the whole committee.

3176
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:50,080
Did we?

3177
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:50,560
>> No.

3178
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:53,280
So Mr. Rodriguez, my apologies.

3179
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:56,880
>> Don't worry. Um on Tuesday uh September

3180
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,760
22nd the bid review subcommittee met and

3181
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,480
there was approval of uh two bids. Uh

3182
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,280
the first one was um awarded in the

3183
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:07,840
amount of 100,000 for one year to Hatch

3184
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,960
Landscape and Design uh for paving

3185
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,880
services and the second bid uh was up to

3186
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:19,040
uh $150,000 for three years to Buckley

3187
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,599
um elevator for elevator services uh for

3188
02:05:21,599 --> 02:05:25,119
the district. Um, I'll put a motion on

3189
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:28,080
the floor for approval of the FY27

3190
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:34,709
school bids. Um, bid BPS-2026-031

3191
02:05:34,719 --> 02:05:37,199
for paving services of up to $100,000

3192
02:05:37,199 --> 02:05:39,280
one year hatch landscape

3193
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,101
>> in design.

3194
02:05:41,101 --> 02:05:42,080
[laughter]

3195
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:43,920
>> Hold on.

3196
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,679
>> He's reading into the record. Go ahead.

3197
02:05:45,679 --> 02:05:48,560
reading uh with both bids uh and also

3198
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:52,880
bid uh BPS 2026-036

3199
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:56,800
up to 150,000 uh for 3 years to Buckley

3200
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:57,440
Elevator.

3201
02:05:57,440 --> 02:05:58,400
>> Now you can second it.

3202
02:05:58,400 --> 02:05:58,960
>> Seconded.

3203
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:00,560
>> Motion has been properly made and

3204
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:01,840
second. Misso,

3205
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:02,239
>> yes.

3206
02:06:02,239 --> 02:06:02,960
>> Miss Oliver,

3207
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:03,280
>> yes.

3208
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:04,239
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

3209
02:06:04,239 --> 02:06:04,560
>> yes.

3210
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:05,360
>> Miss Azac,

3211
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:05,599
>> yes.

3212
02:06:05,599 --> 02:06:06,320
>> Mr. Pina,

3213
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:06,639
>> yes.

3214
02:06:06,639 --> 02:06:08,719
>> Mr. Sullivan,

3215
02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:09,199
>> yes.

3216
02:06:09,199 --> 02:06:12,800
>> And I'm a yes as well. It carries. Um

3217
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,040
item C, discussion, potential vote.

3218
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:18,639
Superintendent's evaluation approval. Um

3219
02:06:18,639 --> 02:06:21,199
you guys have my slideshow.

3220
02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:24,880
All right. Perfect. So every year the

3221
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,520
school committee has the privilege and

3222
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:29,760
um

3223
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,760
obligation of doing the superintendent's

3224
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:34,079
evaluation. Usually in the beginning of

3225
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:35,840
the fiscal year superintendent presents

3226
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,880
her uh indicators and goals for the

3227
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:40,880
whole fiscal year as she did earlier

3228
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,760
today. And towards the end of the fiscal

3229
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,480
year, this body goes over all those

3230
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:50,880
indicators and we rate her um from

3231
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:52,800
unsatisfactory, needs improvement,

3232
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,119
proficient to exemplary. And those

3233
02:06:55,119 --> 02:06:57,280
scores are then uh combined and put

3234
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,280
together for us to present for this

3235
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,679
committee to accept and approve. All the

3236
02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:04,079
evaluations from each individual me

3237
02:07:04,079 --> 02:07:07,760
individual member will be um are usually

3238
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,679
uh uploaded to our website. people can

3239
02:07:09,679 --> 02:07:11,599
go review and read what we said and how

3240
02:07:11,599 --> 02:07:14,639
we um evaluated her and the work that

3241
02:07:14,639 --> 02:07:17,360
she's been doing. So for this past

3242
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,800
fiscal year the um progress towards goal

3243
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:22,719
there were three major items as she

3244
02:07:22,719 --> 02:07:25,040
presented earlier that we are required

3245
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,280
for uh implementation improvement. One

3246
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,599
of those is student learning goal. The

3247
02:07:29,599 --> 02:07:31,679
second one is professional practice goal

3248
02:07:31,679 --> 02:07:33,199
and the third one is district

3249
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:36,400
improvement goals. As far as performance

3250
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,800
uh indicator, we have those four

3251
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,400
standards. The first one is the

3252
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,880
instructional leadership. Second one is

3253
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:45,679
management and operations. Uh third is

3254
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:47,679
family and community engagement. Fourth

3255
02:07:47,679 --> 02:07:50,560
is professional culture. And based on

3256
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,599
everybody's evaluation, uh myself,

3257
02:07:53,599 --> 02:07:56,320
member CentO, member Pina were

3258
02:07:56,320 --> 02:08:00,639
designated to um meet and put all the

3259
02:08:00,639 --> 02:08:05,360
results together so we can average average out the um the scores

3260
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:08,960
and how she performed for the uh three

3261
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:12,079
goals. Professional practice, she met

3262
02:08:12,079 --> 02:08:13,760
for the district improvement, she met

3263
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,360
the goal. And for student learning,

3264
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,920
there were significant progress. As far

3265
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:20,400
as the standards uh for instructional

3266
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,079
leadership, she performed in the

3267
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:24,719
proficient range for management and

3268
02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:27,199
operations proficient as well. Family

3269
02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:29,199
and community engagement proficient as

3270
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:31,119
well and professional culture

3271
02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:34,320
proficient. The overall summitive rating

3272
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,199
was a proficient score. Uh this is based

3273
02:08:37,199 --> 02:08:39,599
on every individual member scoring

3274
02:08:39,599 --> 02:08:41,840
subcategories of each one of these

3275
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:44,400
standards saying how did she do as far

3276
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,320
as curriculum? how she should do as far

3277
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:48,639
as uh instruction in the classroom. So,

3278
02:08:48,639 --> 02:08:50,480
you know, evaluating our teacher, so on

3279
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:53,280
and so forth and the average of those

3280
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,119
will tell you the overall score for each

3281
02:08:55,119 --> 02:08:57,280
of these standards and she was

3282
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,760
proficient on all of them. I believe in

3283
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,320
past year what we did when that was my

3284
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:06,239
first time doing the evaluation uh we

3285
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:08,159
took some a few of the comments from

3286
02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:10,239
each member under each one of these

3287
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:12,880
standards and put it with the whole

3288
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:14,960
evaluation packet and then the overall

3289
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:18,159
comment we use everybody's um evaluation

3290
02:09:18,159 --> 02:09:22,159
comments for this year um myself and

3291
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:25,119
Misso I know unfortunately Mr.

3292
02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:28,079
uh was unable to attend due to um

3293
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:32,159
outside of his control uh circumstances,

3294
02:09:32,159 --> 02:09:35,040
but we used everybody's evaluation for

3295
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,079
every uh standard and every indicator.

3296
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:40,480
So, the packet that you guys have and

3297
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:42,480
they will be uploaded to our website has

3298
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,400
everybody's comments, everybody's

3299
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,119
evaluation for every indicator. Um I

3300
02:09:47,119 --> 02:09:48,719
thought it would be fair and transparent

3301
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:50,480
that we put everybody's comment for each

3302
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:52,239
section so the public has the

3303
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:54,400
opportunity to read. Either way, we were

3304
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,400
going to upload all these um all the

3305
02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:58,880
evaluation from each member. But a few

3306
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,960
things that I wanted to highlight. Uh

3307
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:02,800
these are comments from different

3308
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,360
members. Uh I subdivided them into

3309
02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:08,239
strengths and into each standard. I put

3310
02:10:08,239 --> 02:10:11,679
a few um a quick sentence paragraph if

3311
02:10:11,679 --> 02:10:14,480
you will uh from you guys and some of

3312
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,719
you will recognize your comments. I hope

3313
02:10:16,719 --> 02:10:19,599
you do. Um for instance from

3314
02:10:19,599 --> 02:10:22,239
instructional leadership uh an area of

3315
02:10:22,239 --> 02:10:25,119
strength uh from one of the members they

3316
02:10:25,119 --> 02:10:27,199
said maintaining a clear focus on

3317
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:29,280
teaching learning and continuous

3318
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:31,040
improvement across the district. This is

3319
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:34,639
what they have seen for operations. Uh a

3320
02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:36,400
member said I believe this is the

3321
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,639
superintendent's strongest standard and

3322
02:10:38,639 --> 02:10:40,880
the year's work is exceptionally well

3323
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:45,199
documented for family and community. Um

3324
02:10:45,199 --> 02:10:47,280
the comment reads as her collaborative

3325
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,520
approach and accessibility have helped

3326
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:52,480
foster greater trust and partnership and

3327
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:56,880
for culture has de demonstrally rebuilt

3328
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,800
professional and intergovernmental

3329
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,360
relationships. This district's recovery

3330
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:05,280
required as far as uh growth. Obviously

3331
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:07,520
uh there's always areas for growth. For

3332
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,079
instructional we have demonstrate to

3333
02:11:10,079 --> 02:11:11,760
demonstrate whether interventions are

3334
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,599
producing results not simply whether

3335
02:11:13,599 --> 02:11:16,079
programs were implemented. Uh for

3336
02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:19,280
operations uh fiscal systems especially

3337
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:22,400
require stronger transparency planning

3338
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:25,280
monitoring and accountability for family

3339
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:28,079
and community um engagement. A more

3340
02:11:28,079 --> 02:11:29,920
visible and consistence presence

3341
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:32,400
throughout the community. And for

3342
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:34,880
culture, we heard that areas that we

3343
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:36,239
need to continue working on,

3344
02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:37,760
particularly communication and

3345
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,239
continuous learning. Uh these are just a

3346
02:11:40,239 --> 02:11:41,920
few of some of the comments that were

3347
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,480
submitted by uh members of this uh

3348
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,760
school committee. Uh the full

3349
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,840
evaluation packet will be uploaded so

3350
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:51,360
members of the community can go and take

3351
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,280
a look, read some of the feedback and

3352
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,760
some areas of strength and growth that

3353
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:58,320
uh were provided. If members have any

3354
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,239
question, comments, concerns, more than

3355
02:12:00,239 --> 02:12:02,719
happy to take them. Superintendent if

3356
02:12:02,719 --> 02:12:04,560
you have anything as well. Uh, Miss

3357
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,239
Oliver,

3358
02:12:06,239 --> 02:12:08,719
>> thank you. I appreciate that. Um, I do

3359
02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:12,880
like the whole evaluation process. Um, I

3360
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:15,199
get great joy of doing it even when I do

3361
02:12:15,199 --> 02:12:17,679
it for my nursing my nurses and clinical

3362
02:12:17,679 --> 02:12:21,199
supervisors. Um I think the take um away

3363
02:12:21,199 --> 02:12:23,360
is just basically the growth that I've

3364
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,000
seen since you've been here and the

3365
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,239
recovery that you have implemented with

3366
02:12:28,239 --> 02:12:31,119
your team and how we're moving forward

3367
02:12:31,119 --> 02:12:33,040
and we're not so much looking at the

3368
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:37,119
past. You walked into a a disarray, a

3369
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:39,920
mess, a disaster, a chaos, and I was

3370
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,480
part of that when you walked in. Um, and

3371
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:46,560
now I see a whole different um, school

3372
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:48,560
district since you walked in and all the

3373
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:50,000
work that you have done with your lead

3374
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:52,320
with your team. I appreciate each one of

3375
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,079
them because I think it's been a team

3376
02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:56,880
work. It hasn't been just a solo person.

3377
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:59,199
hasn't just been I I I there's

3378
02:12:59,199 --> 02:13:01,360
definitely been a team and just working

3379
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:04,800
to figure out and also the the ability

3380
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:08,560
to work with every each one of us

3381
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:11,040
different personality um and taking back

3382
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,599
what we're asking individually and

3383
02:13:13,599 --> 02:13:16,639
respecting our opinions and to and bring

3384
02:13:16,639 --> 02:13:18,400
it back to your team and say okay how

3385
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:20,400
can we do this better I do appreciate

3386
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,800
that because some of us are very

3387
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:24,800
stubbornheaded and we want certain

3388
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:27,520
things to go um certain way like

3389
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:30,400
tomorrow not giving you enough um you

3390
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:33,840
know area of improvement and taking time

3391
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,800
cuz nothing is done overnight especially

3392
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:39,199
after everything that we've been through

3393
02:13:39,199 --> 02:13:41,440
the deficit the deficit and everything

3394
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:45,119
else I think it's um it's uphill battle

3395
02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:47,520
and I see it every day and I see how

3396
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:49,360
sometimes we had our conversations we

3397
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:51,047
have spoken and I see how

3398
02:13:51,047 --> 02:13:51,760
[clears throat]

3399
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:54,079
you are trying your best and I do

3400
02:13:54,079 --> 02:13:56,800
appreciate that Um, and I do see

3401
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,560
sometimes you you're tired, you're

3402
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:01,280
exhausted, but you keep moving. And

3403
02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:04,159
that's all we can ask. I think we ask to

3404
02:14:04,159 --> 02:14:06,719
build a a team and a relationship

3405
02:14:06,719 --> 02:14:09,440
between this all members and with you

3406
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,520
and your team to respect. At the end of

3407
02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:13,119
the day, we have to be professional. We

3408
02:14:13,119 --> 02:14:16,159
got to respect and give you room to grow

3409
02:14:16,159 --> 02:14:18,239
and to make those improvement. We can't

3410
02:14:18,239 --> 02:14:20,079
just expect it to be tomorrow that you

3411
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:23,760
get it done. But I do see the grace. I

3412
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:26,719
do see your professionalism. I do see

3413
02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:28,719
the love that you have for the city and

3414
02:14:28,719 --> 02:14:30,880
the students and educators and that's

3415
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:32,960
what all we ask is for you to continue

3416
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:36,400
showing that and when I see um different

3417
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:37,679
post of you going to different

3418
02:14:37,679 --> 02:14:40,480
activities and how the students just get

3419
02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:43,040
to you and and the educators and some of

3420
02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:44,880
them are speak very highly of you and

3421
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,800
this is what we wanted. It was totally

3422
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:49,040
not like that when we when I first

3423
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:51,360
started with the old superintendent, but

3424
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,360
I do see the growth and I do appreciate

3425
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:56,400
that you do take all the feedbacks. You

3426
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:58,719
allow it to sink in and you do your job.

3427
02:14:58,719 --> 02:15:01,280
At the end of the day, you basically

3428
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:03,599
turn off the noise and you silent it all

3429
02:15:03,599 --> 02:15:05,599
and you do what we asking you to do is

3430
02:15:05,599 --> 02:15:07,360
continue moving the school district

3431
02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:08,880
forward. Thank you.

3432
02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:11,199
>> Thank you. Uh Miss Cinte followed by

3433
02:15:11,199 --> 02:15:14,159
Miss Azac.

3434
02:15:14,159 --> 02:15:18,320
>> Hello. Thank you for all the work. Um so

3435
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:22,320
as someone that was um

3436
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:26,960
elected or chosen to kind to help you um

3437
02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:29,599
to help with the with preparing this

3438
02:15:29,599 --> 02:15:31,440
material.

3439
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:35,360
I was kind of shocked at how some of us

3440
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:38,639
how how some of our comments was very

3441
02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:40,639
broad. So like I am someone that

3442
02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:43,920
supervise a team of seven and I also do

3443
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:47,679
yearly reviews. Um for me as a

3444
02:15:47,679 --> 02:15:49,760
supervisor cuz we always want to make it

3445
02:15:49,760 --> 02:15:53,599
very clear that we are your boss. Um

3446
02:15:53,599 --> 02:15:57,280
that when I am supervising my folks I do

3447
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,760
get I I do provide feedback to them in

3448
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:02,880
the moment allow them for them to grow

3449
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:08,400
or not. Um and when I do make my yearly

3450
02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:11,280
review with them, they will never be

3451
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:13,599
surprised about what was said because

3452
02:16:13,599 --> 02:16:15,840
throughout the year I was able to

3453
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:18,800
provide feedback. So for example,

3454
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:21,520
um some of the comments that was there

3455
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:24,719
was greater transparency,

3456
02:16:24,719 --> 02:16:26,880
better communication,

3457
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,840
and strong accountability.

3458
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:32,639
like we did not explain what was missing

3459
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:35,679
or what do we wanted to change. Um so

3460
02:16:35,679 --> 02:16:38,000
for me those statements was very broad.

3461
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:40,080
Um

3462
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:42,880
if we need if we if we expect

3463
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:45,200
improvement we need to give specific

3464
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:49,840
examples and explain um how like how how

3465
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:53,840
can that be success? Um

3466
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:57,120
and I also think I think from being in

3467
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:00,880
this role from January to now um I do

3468
02:17:00,880 --> 02:17:04,319
see that we as a committee really need

3469
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:06,479
to see which one is our job role and

3470
02:17:06,479 --> 02:17:08,719
which one are the superintendent. So for

3471
02:17:08,719 --> 02:17:12,399
example like um school committee

3472
02:17:12,399 --> 02:17:15,840
calendar um meeters agenda

3473
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:19,200
um communication responsibilities like

3474
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,519
we also need to take ownership of that

3475
02:17:21,519 --> 02:17:24,160
because I've been in this seat here

3476
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:26,880
where when we talk about communication

3477
02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:28,880
we have said that you know you did not

3478
02:17:28,880 --> 02:17:31,120
share with us on time or that you did

3479
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:34,160
not do it when in fact you did provide

3480
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:37,439
it to us. You also and you also email

3481
02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:40,240
this information. So, some of us are not

3482
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:42,479
taking the time to check our emails or

3483
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:45,040
read and then we come here and kind of

3484
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:48,639
put the blame on you. Um, as one of your

3485
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:51,679
seven boss, like we always like to say

3486
02:17:51,679 --> 02:17:54,559
it and throw it at your face. Um I

3487
02:17:54,559 --> 02:17:56,399
always said right like make sure you're

3488
02:17:56,399 --> 02:18:00,000
having a healthy work um and family

3489
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:04,080
balance um self-care because

3490
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:07,840
you have seven seven of us with seven

3491
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,840
expectations and seven work style. Um

3492
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:13,120
you're not going to be able to please

3493
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:15,200
all of us at the same time. And I think

3494
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,880
what um member Oliver was saying um you

3495
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:20,639
can't respond to us right away because

3496
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:24,319
that is not realistic. Um, so like I

3497
02:18:24,319 --> 02:18:27,679
said, I just hope that moving forward we

3498
02:18:27,679 --> 02:18:30,240
will pour into you so you can continue

3499
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:32,719
to move the district forward and not

3500
02:18:32,719 --> 02:18:34,639
constantly bringing you down and

3501
02:18:34,639 --> 02:18:37,920
constantly critic criticizing you when

3502
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:42,399
we're not doing our part. So again, I'm I'm speaking from someone that's

3503
02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:44,559
super that is currently supervising

3504
02:18:44,559 --> 02:18:48,800
teams um and how some of the comments

3505
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,599
that was made um I really wanted to send

3506
02:18:51,599 --> 02:18:53,359
them back and said this is not

3507
02:18:53,359 --> 02:18:56,319
acceptable. We need to be more specific.

3508
02:18:56,319 --> 02:18:58,960
Um, as a new school committee member, I

3509
02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:02,240
took the time to attend a training on

3510
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:05,599
how to do this. And per mask, uh, we

3511
02:19:05,599 --> 02:19:08,399
should be given specific we there's

3512
02:19:08,399 --> 02:19:11,040
clear goals and none of the goals was

3513
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,800
about how do you feel about the

3514
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:14,719
superintendent. It was about what are

3515
02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:16,479
the facts

3516
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:18,240
and we know what facts are, right? So

3517
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,639
facts is about what is documented and

3518
02:19:20,639 --> 02:19:22,240
what is our crime and our observation.

3519
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:25,439
So, I just hope that moving forward that

3520
02:19:25,439 --> 02:19:29,359
we do a better job with pling for you,

3521
02:19:29,359 --> 02:19:32,080
supporting you, and if there is areas

3522
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:34,319
that we feel like you're not doing well,

3523
02:19:34,319 --> 02:19:36,880
that will will be there to support you

3524
02:19:36,880 --> 02:19:40,319
and not bring you down every time. Um,

3525
02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:42,559
so thank you for doing the work. Um,

3526
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:44,559
I've even though I was not part of the

3527
02:19:44,559 --> 02:19:46,880
hiring, I feel like I did reach out to

3528
02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:48,319
you and kind of give you a second

3529
02:19:48,319 --> 02:19:50,720
interview to ask why you invested in

3530
02:19:50,720 --> 02:19:54,880
Brockton. Um, so please continue to be

3531
02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:56,960
here, continue to pour into our

3532
02:19:56,960 --> 02:19:59,120
students, but most important, which is

3533
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:01,280
to move the district forward. Um, and

3534
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:03,680
I'm here to support that growth, but

3535
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:06,319
also to support this city and our

3536
02:20:06,319 --> 02:20:08,160
student deserve a superintendent like

3537
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:12,000
you that represents the community. So,

3538
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:13,600
thank you,

3539
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:14,720
>> Miss Azac.

3540
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:18,800
>> Thank you. Um, actually

3541
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:21,200
reviewing this this evening, I have to

3542
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:23,840
admit I was not satisfied with the

3543
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:27,520
format that we were using. Um, I didn't

3544
02:20:27,520 --> 02:20:28,960
like the format last year and I had

3545
02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:30,319
mentioned it to the vice chair at the

3546
02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:31,920
time. So, I was surprised we were using

3547
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,720
the same format because

3548
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:36,560
the thing that's on here that I'm

3549
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:39,120
disappointed in is yes, I did put needs

3550
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,680
improvement, but I did see progress and

3551
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:44,000
I did give her an overall proficient.

3552
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,399
that's not on here. It looks like I just

3553
02:20:46,399 --> 02:20:48,640
gave her needs improvement and I

3554
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:50,479
explained why I put needs improvement

3555
02:20:50,479 --> 02:20:52,319
because I compared it with the with the

3556
02:20:52,319 --> 02:20:53,920
evidence with the book and with the Desi

3557
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:57,040
report. So, I would prefer that this is

3558
02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,840
corrected because it's making it look

3559
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:02,319
like I put needs improvement, but I did

3560
02:21:02,319 --> 02:21:04,080
give you an overall proficient. I should

3561
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:07,200
hope you see those ratings because it's

3562
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,680
an evaluation. We're all going to be all

3563
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:12,399
over the place. Some of us really went

3564
02:21:12,399 --> 02:21:14,080
through this and put a lot of time into

3565
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:18,720
it. Um, it is an evaluation. You you

3566
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:20,319
will probably evaluate us. I mean, it

3567
02:21:20,319 --> 02:21:21,760
just it's this is how we're going to be

3568
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:25,920
able to work better. Um, you know, we do have our strengths and we have

3569
02:21:25,920 --> 02:21:29,439
areas we have to work. Um, but I would

3570
02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:31,520
prefer that this be corrected is I do

3571
02:21:31,520 --> 02:21:32,960
not feel comfortable voting on this this

3572
02:21:32,960 --> 02:21:35,120
evening because this makes it look like

3573
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:38,080
I put needs improvement as my overall

3574
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:41,680
rating for that. um

3575
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,560
for that standard and it just my overall

3576
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:47,120
if you go back was proficient.

3577
02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:48,720
>> It didn't say that

3578
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:50,399
>> where because it says needs improvement

3579
02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:51,680
next to

3580
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:55,200
>> your overall was

3581
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:57,760
no my overall for standard three misso.

3582
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:00,720
So vice chair overall yes you have the

3583
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:04,240
proficient but again you have needs

3584
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:06,880
improvement next to our names in

3585
02:22:06,880 --> 02:22:10,240
parenthesis so it doesn't show that my

3586
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:12,319
overall for for standard three was

3587
02:22:12,319 --> 02:22:14,319
proficient for the superintendent it

3588
02:22:14,319 --> 02:22:19,429
wasn't needs improvement

3589
02:22:19,439 --> 02:22:21,520
because I believe the other areas that I

3590
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:23,040
did put needs improvement I did state

3591
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:25,439
the positives our strengths and our our

3592
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:27,280
weaknesses Um,

3593
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:28,800
>> you tell me the page. Sorry.

3594
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:30,399
>> Yes. Cuz

3595
02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:32,240
>> so if you if you go on here, I mean

3596
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:34,560
overall I did give her proficient,

3597
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:36,479
>> but when we look at for example like

3598
02:22:36,479 --> 02:22:38,240
standard I mean honestly this doesn't

3599
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:41,590
look like

3600
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,479
how we had it. So I mean it doesn't show

3601
02:22:44,479 --> 02:22:46,560
how many proficient she got, how many

3602
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:47,280
needs improvement.

3603
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:49,280
>> Yours says proficient

3604
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:50,880
>> where I'm looking.

3605
02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:51,840
>> So which one are you?

3606
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,680
>> I'm looking on the standard three vice

3607
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:55,520
chair. You're you're saying in your

3608
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:56,560
comment area it says

3609
02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:59,040
>> yes in my comment but yes it says needs

3610
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:02,800
>> overall proficient these are the um

3611
02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:04,399
because remember it's overall comments

3612
02:23:04,399 --> 02:23:07,600
and overall um rating for that standard

3613
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:09,200
for standard three your overall rating

3614
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:10,240
was proficient

3615
02:23:10,240 --> 02:23:11,359
>> okay as long as you're

3616
02:23:11,359 --> 02:23:12,880
>> talking about the subcategories where

3617
02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:15,200
you give a few yes these are the overall

3618
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,600
ratings so for instance if there was

3619
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:19,600
five and you said for one that was needs

3620
02:23:19,600 --> 02:23:20,960
improvement the other four were

3621
02:23:20,960 --> 02:23:21,439
proficient

3622
02:23:21,439 --> 02:23:22,880
>> I mean you have some that are exemplary

3623
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:24,640
I mean This is the same one.

3624
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:26,080
>> Yeah, we are all over the place. I mean,

3625
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,680
reviewing this, it's

3626
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:29,840
>> this is the same thing as last year

3627
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:32,640
>> and last year's format was not

3628
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:34,479
>> we needed to work on it. I I I would

3629
02:23:34,479 --> 02:23:35,280
have hoped.

3630
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:36,240
>> Absolutely agree.

3631
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:38,160
>> Got recommendations prior to this going

3632
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:39,840
out to the committee. Um

3633
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:41,760
>> well, I'll say this. You and I had this

3634
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:43,920
conversation. I agree. And I have those

3635
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:46,399
feedback from you from member CentO

3636
02:23:46,399 --> 02:23:48,720
because she also wanted boxes for each

3637
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:50,640
subcategory. So, if she had something to

3638
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:52,800
say to specific one. So those are

3639
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:54,560
recommendations that I will be able to

3640
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:56,319
provide for the next evaluation.

3641
02:23:56,319 --> 02:23:57,359
>> Yeah. Because I mean you go from

3642
02:23:57,359 --> 02:23:58,800
>> if last year you gave those

3643
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:01,439
recommendations to our former vice chair

3644
02:24:01,439 --> 02:24:03,120
that should be something that we should

3645
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,920
have implemented then for now or should

3646
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,600
have been communicated to all of us so

3647
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:09,359
we could have implemented it.

3648
02:24:09,359 --> 02:24:10,960
>> So for instance the feedback you gave me

3649
02:24:10,960 --> 02:24:13,760
this year after this evaluation will be

3650
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:16,160
submitted so we can update it and do

3651
02:24:16,160 --> 02:24:18,160
better next time.

3652
02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:19,920
>> Does that make sense? Um, it does, but

3653
02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:21,840
it just I I'm trying to look on here

3654
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:24,399
because our, you know, you go from

3655
02:24:24,399 --> 02:24:26,399
unsatisfactory to needs improvement to

3656
02:24:26,399 --> 02:24:28,800
proficient to exemplary. And I know in

3657
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:31,760
years past we've had seen significant

3658
02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:36,640
progress. Um, you know, you go from one extreme to another and it's just

3659
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:38,160
like we really need another category

3660
02:24:38,160 --> 02:24:38,479
there.

3661
02:24:38,479 --> 02:24:40,640
>> Absolutely. But I just want to make

3662
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:42,160
sure. I mean, I'm reading this and it

3663
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:43,520
just says, you know, needs improvement,

3664
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:45,680
but it doesn't show that my overall,

3665
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:48,000
even though the majority overall was

3666
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:49,760
proficient for her, but doesn't show

3667
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:51,920
that I gave her a proficient overall, me

3668
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:54,319
specifically. Where am I on here? Me

3669
02:24:54,319 --> 02:24:56,399
specifically.

3670
02:24:56,399 --> 02:24:57,359
>> Hold on. I'm confused.

3671
02:24:57,359 --> 02:24:59,120
>> So, you know, when you do the evaluation

3672
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,120
in each one, so standard number one, I

3673
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:02,960
gave her an overall proficient. Yes.

3674
02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:05,120
>> But there were areas that I put needs

3675
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:05,920
improvement.

3676
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:09,280
>> Yeah. Um,

3677
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,120
>> we we can discuss. I mean,

3678
02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:13,200
>> I I know I hear what you're saying. This

3679
02:25:13,200 --> 02:25:15,439
is just for the overall for each

3680
02:25:15,439 --> 02:25:16,399
standard.

3681
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:16,720
>> Yes.

3682
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:19,200
>> So, she will be able now to get all the

3683
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:21,280
other ones. She can review it and it

3684
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:23,280
will be posted on our website. Your

3685
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:24,399
individual evaluations

3686
02:25:24,399 --> 02:25:25,760
>> as long as the individual ones are

3687
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:27,520
posted so they can see that

3688
02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:30,160
>> similar to last year. This is just for

3689
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:32,560
the overall because the options you have

3690
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:34,880
here, it doesn't have an option to say

3691
02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:38,479
category 1 A, 1 B, 1 C. Otherwise, this

3692
02:25:38,479 --> 02:25:39,840
is going to be a thick packet.

3693
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:41,439
>> Usually, it is a thick packet. This is

3694
02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:44,160
an Yes. Don't say never. Never.

3695
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:45,280
>> Last year, this is what we had.

3696
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:46,479
>> You can't base this off of last year,

3697
02:25:46,479 --> 02:25:47,120
vice chair.

3698
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:48,800
>> But this is what I'm saying. previous

3699
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:51,200
years, we we

3700
02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:54,479
every every school committee member

3701
02:25:54,479 --> 02:25:56,399
>> takes time to do an evaluation and the

3702
02:25:56,399 --> 02:25:58,479
superintendent deserves a complete

3703
02:25:58,479 --> 02:26:00,800
evaluation from each one of us. And

3704
02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:02,720
>> as long as the complete evaluations are

3705
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:04,640
online because the way that I'm looking

3706
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:06,240
at this

3707
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:09,439
>> um doesn't show that my overall

3708
02:26:09,439 --> 02:26:11,600
>> even for each individual standard was

3709
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,840
proficient because you only gave

3710
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:15,840
proficient or needs improvement. there

3711
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:19,120
was no so that's why when I based my uh

3712
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:21,439
recommendations is I have seen progress

3713
02:26:21,439 --> 02:26:23,920
I'm not going to say I haven't but you

3714
02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:26,000
know given given the um obstacles we've

3715
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:28,880
hit we we do have work to do um you know

3716
02:26:28,880 --> 02:26:30,640
you compare it to the DESI report you

3717
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:34,800
compare it to her exhibit book um so

3718
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:35,200
again

3719
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:36,960
>> no no I I understand what you're saying

3720
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:39,040
but this is exactly as it was last year

3721
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:40,960
just to say you know I haven't seen it

3722
02:26:40,960 --> 02:26:42,800
in the way that you're describing

3723
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:45,200
>> yes I when I worked on it miss uh Dr.

3724
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:47,600
Spalding had worked on it with me.

3725
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,399
Previous um vice chairs had committees

3726
02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:51,120
that worked on it.

3727
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:52,160
>> Totally understand.

3728
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:55,040
>> Um but also you did give me feedback

3729
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:58,080
this year. So my job as the vice chair

3730
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:00,160
this year is to make sure for next year

3731
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:02,319
those feedbacks are incorporated to the

3732
02:27:02,319 --> 02:27:04,800
new evaluation form.

3733
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:05,359
>> Definitely.

3734
02:27:05,359 --> 02:27:07,840
>> If you said this last year,

3735
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:08,160
>> I did.

3736
02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:10,640
>> Our former vice chair was here. So those

3737
02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:12,240
are feedback that you probably provided

3738
02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:14,720
to him which is great. It's fine. uh

3739
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:16,080
these are the feedback you're providing

3740
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:19,520
to me which again yourself miss you also

3741
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:22,160
gave some feedbacks which will be um

3742
02:27:22,160 --> 02:27:23,280
recommended for next year

3743
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:23,840
>> yeah and I respect

3744
02:27:23,840 --> 02:27:25,840
>> but this is the same as last year so

3745
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:28,080
>> I respect everyone's evaluation this is

3746
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:30,880
how they evaluate um everyone has a

3747
02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:33,280
right to do their own evaluation and if

3748
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:34,800
they want to discuss it directly with

3749
02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:36,000
the superintendent they have every right

3750
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,680
to and the superintendent can you know

3751
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:39,760
have a meet with meeting with them but

3752
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:40,000
um

3753
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:43,840
>> absolutely um but no thank you and I did

3754
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:45,359
note your feedbacks when you and I

3755
02:27:45,359 --> 02:27:47,120
spoke. So those will be recommended.

3756
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:49,439
>> I think moving forward, especially where

3757
02:27:49,439 --> 02:27:51,920
we have a committee, we really should

3758
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:53,840
have better recommendation as to how you

3759
02:27:53,840 --> 02:27:59,920
know Desi Desi um and I think um

3760
02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:01,840
you know, mask others have have

3761
02:28:01,840 --> 02:28:04,399
different um templates that we can use.

3762
02:28:04,399 --> 02:28:06,000
I I would recommend just seeing

3763
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:07,840
different templates

3764
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:10,720
>> um because I think it will just make it

3765
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:12,000
better for the committee and for the

3766
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:13,280
superintendent.

3767
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:13,760
Thank you.

3768
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:15,280
>> Um,

3769
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:18,000
any other members? Just uh fight Mr.

3770
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:19,200
Rodriguez.

3771
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:22,399
>> Um, I I understand what member Azac is

3772
02:28:22,399 --> 02:28:24,319
saying, but one of my one one of the

3773
02:28:24,319 --> 02:28:26,080
issues that I have with this, and I'm

3774
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:27,520
not sure if she still wants to hold off

3775
02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:29,120
on it because if you do, I would like to

3776
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:32,240
hold off on this as well. Um, when we

3777
02:28:32,240 --> 02:28:34,240
know when we do the evaluation, if you

3778
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:36,479
put exemplary or unsatisfactory, you

3779
02:28:36,479 --> 02:28:38,000
have to provide evidence. I would like

3780
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:40,800
to see that evidence of, you know, what

3781
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:43,760
brought that that rating to, you know,

3782
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:47,280
unsatisfactory or exemplary um with

3783
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:48,560
those members because you have to

3784
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:51,120
provide evidence in in here. And even

3785
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:53,680
with the uh evaluation process, there

3786
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:55,200
was no mechanism of you actually

3787
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:56,640
providing that evidence other than just

3788
02:28:56,640 --> 02:28:58,560
typing it in in your comment section.

3789
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:00,560
>> That has to be uh accompanied with that

3790
02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:02,560
rating as well.

3791
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:03,680
>> And that's in training.

3792
02:29:03,680 --> 02:29:06,720
>> We certainly can. um this will be the

3793
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:08,800
will of the committee. However, I will

3794
02:29:08,800 --> 02:29:12,080
say um we did look it over. Um I did

3795
02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:13,520
question some of the comments, but

3796
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:15,439
people really wrote a lot this time

3797
02:29:15,439 --> 02:29:19,760
around. Um the other piece is

3798
02:29:19,760 --> 02:29:21,840
yes, I I do appreciate that we should

3799
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:24,240
have evidence and hey, this is what I

3800
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:25,520
saw and this is why I gave you this

3801
02:29:25,520 --> 02:29:28,319
feedback,

3802
02:29:28,319 --> 02:29:30,080
which is also a good space for

3803
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:31,840
improvement, but we just did the same

3804
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,880
thing as last time.

3805
02:29:34,880 --> 02:29:38,319
and no evidence was provided um for some

3806
02:29:38,319 --> 02:29:42,000
cases and it was fine.

3807
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,000
So I'm just

3808
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:46,160
>> you can go back and review the uh last

3809
02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:48,640
year's event with those members when we

3810
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:51,439
came that was something that was missed

3811
02:29:51,439 --> 02:29:53,920
and it's again with the format.

3812
02:29:53,920 --> 02:29:54,479
>> Uhhuh.

3813
02:29:54,479 --> 02:29:56,240
>> We have to just kind of I mean this is

3814
02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:57,520
why we're having this meeting to see

3815
02:29:57,520 --> 02:29:58,800
what works and what doesn't work make

3816
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:01,120
our recommendations uh to provide

3817
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:03,200
>> which is great. That's why I'm saying uh

3818
02:30:03,200 --> 02:30:04,720
I understand your frustration with the

3819
02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:06,960
form but I did not get your feedback

3820
02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:08,800
from last year. You gave them to the

3821
02:30:08,800 --> 02:30:11,040
former vice chair. So that's why we have

3822
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:12,720
these forms. I didn't know that was one

3823
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:14,960
of your recommendations, but this year

3824
02:30:14,960 --> 02:30:17,040
you gave me feedback. So I would improve

3825
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:17,760
that.

3826
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:20,560
>> But um as far as the um

3827
02:30:20,560 --> 02:30:22,160
>> so not so advice you not to interrupt,

3828
02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:23,920
but not so much on the forums, but just

3829
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:25,200
in general,

3830
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:27,600
>> those that take the chatting the course

3831
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:30,080
um whether it's exemplary or

3832
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:31,680
unsatisfactory,

3833
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:33,680
you have to provide your evidence, not

3834
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:35,359
just your opinions on someone's

3835
02:30:35,359 --> 02:30:37,200
performance. And there's a lot of

3836
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:40,000
exemplaries. And I'm just trying to do

3837
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,240
my job as a school committee member and

3838
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:43,760
not have people say, "Well, why didn't

3839
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:45,600
you point it out? Why did you guys just

3840
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:47,280
rubber stamp this?" I would like to see

3841
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:49,359
like pull it out. If it's in the

3842
02:30:49,359 --> 02:30:51,120
evidence, pull out the exemplaries and

3843
02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:53,280
the unsatisfactory, pull them out in the

3844
02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:53,680
evidence.

3845
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:56,000
>> Is there an example you want to give me?

3846
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:57,520
>> There's a lot of exemplaries in here

3847
02:30:57,520 --> 02:30:59,120
that don't have evidence attached to

3848
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:01,439
them. So you guys prepared this and it

3849
02:31:01,439 --> 02:31:02,800
would have been nice to see you prior to

3850
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:04,479
tonight to be able to absorb it, have

3851
02:31:04,479 --> 02:31:06,960
some questions made, um, you know, get

3852
02:31:06,960 --> 02:31:09,439
questions ready and things like that. So

3853
02:31:09,439 --> 02:31:14,230
again,

3854
02:31:14,240 --> 02:31:16,800
» mask says this is a

3855
02:31:16,800 --> 02:31:18,479
>> for someone to have exemplary, you have

3856
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:21,680
to be a you have to have done something

3857
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:24,399
[clears throat] to be a model for other

3858
02:31:24,399 --> 02:31:24,800
districts.

3859
02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:26,800
>> No, no, absolutely. I absolutely agree.

3860
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:28,560
And you know years ago we used to see a

3861
02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:30,960
lot of that and then we had to we had to

3862
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:33,359
educate some of the members that you

3863
02:31:33,359 --> 02:31:35,680
need to stand and same with

3864
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:38,800
unsatisfactory. You have to stand behind

3865
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:41,600
your ratings. Uh the the general one is

3866
02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:43,520
proficient but make your recommendations

3867
02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:46,479
and and things like that. But it's just

3868
02:31:46,479 --> 02:31:48,800
um I was really surprised just flipping

3869
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,040
through this tonight like where's the

3870
02:31:51,040 --> 02:31:53,120
evidence? Um because it's all over the

3871
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:53,840
place

3872
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:55,520
>> and I'm wondering where's everybody?

3873
02:31:55,520 --> 02:31:56,720
Where where did everyone get their info

3874
02:31:56,720 --> 02:31:57,920
from? So

3875
02:31:57,920 --> 02:31:59,120
>> when you say everybody, you got to be

3876
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:00,319
specific because I

3877
02:32:00,319 --> 02:32:01,920
>> Right. I think let's be clear about what

3878
02:32:01,920 --> 02:32:02,720
we talking about.

3879
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:04,560
>> This speaks for this speaks for itself

3880
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,080
and those can actually take a look at

3881
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:08,479
it. It speaks for itself. Um and that's

3882
02:32:08,479 --> 02:32:10,399
why I was concerned because I did have

3883
02:32:10,399 --> 02:32:11,600
needs improvement.

3884
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:11,920
>> Yes.

3885
02:32:11,920 --> 02:32:14,640
>> But it was overall each standard was

3886
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:16,319
overall proficient is what I gave the

3887
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:16,960
superintendent.

3888
02:32:16,960 --> 02:32:19,840
>> Okay. I put needs improvement so I could

3889
02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:22,880
actually explain where my concerns were,

3890
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:25,200
but I gave her an overall proficient

3891
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:27,120
>> in each each standard because I did see

3892
02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:28,800
the changes. I saw the work that goes

3893
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:31,840
into this and her her team. Um, and it's

3894
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:33,120
nothing against the superintendent, but

3895
02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:35,280
this is part of doing an evaluation.

3896
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:36,560
>> You know, this is this is how we're

3897
02:32:36,560 --> 02:32:39,520
going to work on what we need to do. Um,

3898
02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:41,120
and I appreciate all the work that went

3899
02:32:41,120 --> 02:32:42,399
into it, but it's just seeing the

3900
02:32:42,399 --> 02:32:44,479
extreme here. I'd really like to take a

3901
02:32:44,479 --> 02:32:47,439
moment to review it before we we vote on

3902
02:32:47,439 --> 02:32:48,240
anything.

3903
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:49,680
>> I'm just going to share then a few

3904
02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,160
things just so we we clarify. So, for

3905
02:32:52,160 --> 02:32:55,359
one, um we had our deadline. Not

3906
02:32:55,359 --> 02:32:57,760
everybody was able to meet the deadline.

3907
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:00,640
Um well, we had a timeline for when we

3908
02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:02,960
wanted to present this and we had to

3909
02:33:02,960 --> 02:33:05,920
extend the the timeline for folks to

3910
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:07,920
finish completing the evaluation. That's

3911
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:08,319
one thing.

3912
02:33:08,319 --> 02:33:10,080
>> From who who needed an extension? I did

3913
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:12,080
because I had family members that passed

3914
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:13,040
away in the same week.

3915
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:14,399
>> Member Sullivan, yourself and member

3916
02:33:14,399 --> 02:33:14,800
Sullivan.

3917
02:33:14,800 --> 02:33:17,040
>> But I also had it into you vice chair.

3918
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:19,040
>> Yes, you did that on that Sunday and I

3919
02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:20,880
did reach out to the superintendent

3920
02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:23,280
because I'll be honest if we're going to

3921
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:25,439
go there. Some of the exhibits weren't

3922
02:33:25,439 --> 02:33:27,439
even legible in the book. It was like a

3923
02:33:27,439 --> 02:33:28,319
font number two.

3924
02:33:28,319 --> 02:33:31,120
>> I'm not I'm just giving you reasons why

3925
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:32,640
provided that it's legible. I accepted

3926
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:34,560
everybody's response. Everybody wrote

3927
02:33:34,560 --> 02:33:36,240
something whether it's your pers

3928
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:38,880
perspective what you have observed and

3929
02:33:38,880 --> 02:33:39,760
what not

3930
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:40,640
>> there's there's no

3931
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:44,080
>> my concern too is my concern too is I

3932
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:45,760
know last year we had a lot of

3933
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:49,200
evaluation that said unsatisfactory

3934
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:53,200
and said didn't see anything but we did

3935
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:55,280
not send it back because that was my

3936
02:33:55,280 --> 02:33:56,800
experience my first ever experience

3937
02:33:56,800 --> 02:33:59,920
doing an evaluation members said fair

3938
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:02,399
and said unsatisfactory that was not

3939
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:04,640
enough evidence But we did not complain

3940
02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:07,439
about it. We allowed it to be.

3941
02:34:07,439 --> 02:34:09,280
You see what I'm saying? This year, most

3942
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:12,000
of us wrote a lot. Whether it was very

3943
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:15,280
detailed, it was very elaborate

3944
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:17,920
>> and everybody had their own perspective,

3945
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:19,680
their own evaluation. It's like you

3946
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:21,600
mentioned earlier, we this is what we

3947
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:25,600
do. We have the opportunity to evaluate.

3948
02:34:25,600 --> 02:34:27,600
And for the for instance, yours was

3949
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:29,439
submitted at a reasonable time. Then the

3950
02:34:29,439 --> 02:34:31,680
other one we had to work with member

3951
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:35,200
Sullivan to submit his as well. It took

3952
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:38,240
maybe a week after yours to be done to

3953
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:40,240
then send it back to him to provide more

3954
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:42,800
and he's you know he got his own health

3955
02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:44,960
issues and other things going on. So I

3956
02:34:44,960 --> 02:34:47,120
think the only person there that said

3957
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:49,920
either exemplary or needs improvement

3958
02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:53,040
and did not write a lot is his and I

3959
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:56,240
accepted it.

3960
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:58,800
Yes. Because that's why I said, "Give me

3961
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:01,280
an example of who and what was rated

3962
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:04,640
that needs evidence." The only one that

3963
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:07,120
I can think of is Mr. Sullivan's. You

3964
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:08,960
see what I'm saying? So, I don't feel

3965
02:35:08,960 --> 02:35:10,880
it's fair to just now push it back. Last

3966
02:35:10,880 --> 02:35:12,640
year, we allowed him to do that and he

3967
02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:14,479
was fine to come here to the meetings

3968
02:35:14,479 --> 02:35:15,680
and do everything.

3969
02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:17,120
>> We didn't send it back to him to say

3970
02:35:17,120 --> 02:35:18,479
fair is not just a

3971
02:35:18,479 --> 02:35:19,680
>> different committee. Vice Chair,

3972
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:21,840
>> I understand. But this is just I'm just

3973
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:23,520
explaining the difference. You mentioned

3974
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:26,319
vice chair. Hold on a second. I have so

3975
02:35:26,319 --> 02:35:27,439
you also mentioned there was a dead

3976
02:35:27,439 --> 02:35:29,439
there's never been a deadline actually

3977
02:35:29,439 --> 02:35:30,880
the reason we did the eval because I

3978
02:35:30,880 --> 02:35:32,560
asked where the evaluation was I even

3979
02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:34,160
had a conversation about the evaluation

3980
02:35:34,160 --> 02:35:35,520
I was told there's nothing that states

3981
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:37,200
that we had to have it done by a certain

3982
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,840
time we've had the evaluations done back

3983
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:43,120
to Mr. Machello in December back to Mr.

3984
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:45,680
Diagino in November and December. My

3985
02:35:45,680 --> 02:35:47,040
year was the first year we had it done

3986
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:48,880
in the summertime. So, there was no

3987
02:35:48,880 --> 02:35:50,479
deadline to have to rush this and I

3988
02:35:50,479 --> 02:35:51,920
really wish the committee would have had

3989
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:55,120
time to review this. Um, but I'm only

3990
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:56,160
one vote.

3991
02:35:56,160 --> 02:35:56,640
>> No,

3992
02:35:56,640 --> 02:35:58,000
>> I just I in all fairness to the

3993
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,640
superintendent though, I just am not I

3994
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:03,600
do not agree with how it has all this.

3995
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:04,080
>> Mhm.

3996
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:06,000
>> Because when you do an overall, the

3997
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:07,840
average would be proficient, but it

3998
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:09,520
doesn't show that I gave her proficient.

3999
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,000
It shows that I put needs improvement.

4000
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:13,760
We can review this afterwards because I

4001
02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:15,439
mean this is how I'm understanding it

4002
02:36:15,439 --> 02:36:16,880
but I'm not going to keep hopping on

4003
02:36:16,880 --> 02:36:17,120
this.

4004
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:18,880
>> No, no, I understand what you're saying.

4005
02:36:18,880 --> 02:36:21,040
Those evaluation will be posted along

4006
02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:23,600
with this. This is think of this as a

4007
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:24,720
summary as an overview.

4008
02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:25,600
>> No, I understand.

4009
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:26,960
>> Just like the presentation I just did.

4010
02:36:26,960 --> 02:36:28,160
She scored professional on everything

4011
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:30,319
but it's the average of everybody's

4012
02:36:30,319 --> 02:36:32,160
>> but the detailed ones I can't put

4013
02:36:32,160 --> 02:36:34,160
everything together for this. It will be

4014
02:36:34,160 --> 02:36:35,600
posted on our website. People will be

4015
02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:37,040
able to read. The only things that I

4016
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:38,800
posted for everything is the comments of

4017
02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:41,120
everybody's. Usually I thought it had

4018
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:43,200
overall next to each one of us. I could

4019
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,439
be wrong, but I thought when we did it,

4020
02:36:45,439 --> 02:36:46,800
>> did not. Last year it did not.

4021
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:48,160
>> Each standard what you gave them. I

4022
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:49,600
thought each standard would be what you

4023
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:51,680
gave them, but if

4024
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:54,160
>> No, it didn't last year. I did review it

4025
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:55,439
because I wanted to prepare for this

4026
02:36:55,439 --> 02:36:56,880
presentation. I looked at what former

4027
02:36:56,880 --> 02:36:59,280
vice chair did. I follow similar

4028
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:00,800
structure. I just wanted to do a quick

4029
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:01,840
PowerPoint for it. But

4030
02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:03,600
>> just a reminder, everyone has a right to

4031
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:05,200
do an evaluation. It should absolutely

4032
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:08,960
that's what I'm saying. not be

4033
02:37:08,960 --> 02:37:10,720
>> it should not just you know what we all

4034
02:37:10,720 --> 02:37:12,720
have a right to do an evaluation and we

4035
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:14,960
can all evaluate our way of evaluating

4036
02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:15,200
um

4037
02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:15,920
>> yes

4038
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:17,520
>> so

4039
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:18,880
I'm not going to go back and forth

4040
02:37:18,880 --> 02:37:19,840
listening to

4041
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:21,359
>> I agree with you what we did and what we

4042
02:37:21,359 --> 02:37:23,040
didn't do no just from you just

4043
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:24,960
committees in general like I just

4044
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:26,640
>> I can evaluate any way I want to

4045
02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:28,160
evaluate and I shouldn't be

4046
02:37:28,160 --> 02:37:29,760
>> that's what I'm saying I'm agreeing with

4047
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:31,520
you yeah well

4048
02:37:31,520 --> 02:37:31,760
>> yes

4049
02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:33,920
>> just just as a point of I guess of

4050
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:36,160
information in the future

4051
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:41,040
Um I I have in the past myself managed

4052
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:42,880
large numbers of people.

4053
02:37:42,880 --> 02:37:46,240
>> Um maybe if you just gave us um the

4054
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:48,479
expectation beforehand

4055
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:51,760
>> and had a meeting with us, maybe a a

4056
02:37:51,760 --> 02:37:54,399
workshop or something that explained

4057
02:37:54,399 --> 02:37:56,479
what you wanted to get at with this

4058
02:37:56,479 --> 02:37:59,280
evaluation and how you wanted it done.

4059
02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:01,359
It would have maybe had this go a little

4060
02:38:01,359 --> 02:38:05,120
bit smoother. Um, you know, I'm just

4061
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:08,560
coming from the federal side. Um,

4062
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:10,240
obviously this is just weird doing it

4063
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,240
out in the public like this because

4064
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:14,640
normally you would give the, um,

4065
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:17,200
employee the opportunity to discuss it

4066
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:20,479
and to possibly change whatever you

4067
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:21,680
wrote.

4068
02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:24,560
>> That's how it works in the real world or

4069
02:38:24,560 --> 02:38:29,600
not in this setting, I guess. Um, so I

4070
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:32,399
guess I'm just I'm getting used to it.

4071
02:38:32,399 --> 02:38:34,000
Um,

4072
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:36,080
so I guess that's all I would say to

4073
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:36,399
that.

4074
02:38:36,399 --> 02:38:39,280
>> No, I agree. And um, you brought up a

4075
02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:41,439
good point because one of the people

4076
02:38:41,439 --> 02:38:43,920
that I reached out to and Sarah also put

4077
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:46,319
me in contact with is Sean, who's the

4078
02:38:46,319 --> 02:38:48,880
new mask representative for us, and he

4079
02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:51,359
does these trainings. Uh, the timeline

4080
02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:53,600
just did not coincide with our timeline

4081
02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:55,840
of when we started this. Uh the other

4082
02:38:55,840 --> 02:38:57,760
piece too is I checked in with some of

4083
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:00,160
the members. I know I did it last year.

4084
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:01,920
So I was going to follow that structure.

4085
02:39:01,920 --> 02:39:04,000
Miss AAC has been in this committee. Mr.

4086
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:06,560
Rodriguez Sandra did her own individual

4087
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:08,160
training. Miss Oliver has been the

4088
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:12,000
committee. Um so to an extent most

4089
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:14,479
members here have had the exposure or

4090
02:39:14,479 --> 02:39:17,040
have had some sort of training for this.

4091
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:19,439
Um

4092
02:39:19,439 --> 02:39:21,520
the the the and there's nothing

4093
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:23,120
different

4094
02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:25,760
from this one compared to last one so to

4095
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:29,120
say but would some training be

4096
02:39:29,120 --> 02:39:30,560
important? Yes.

4097
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:32,479
>> I don't I don't just I'm not saying

4098
02:39:32,479 --> 02:39:34,560
training. I'm saying your expectation as

4099
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:36,080
to what you were trying to get from

4100
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:36,720
this. I

4101
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:37,359
>> timeline

4102
02:39:37,359 --> 02:39:40,479
>> I took training on this. Uh I I've done

4103
02:39:40,479 --> 02:39:43,920
this myself many many many times. Mhm.

4104
02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:46,640
>> All I'm saying is that I I think it

4105
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:49,120
would have been more beneficial to the

4106
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:53,520
committee if we had met first to discuss

4107
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:57,120
the expectations and then conducted the

4108
02:39:57,120 --> 02:39:58,880
evaluation

4109
02:39:58,880 --> 02:40:01,760
and then discussed the evaluation as a

4110
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:03,600
whole. That's all

4111
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:06,640
>> the uh I'm going get to you one second.

4112
02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:09,280
No, the expectation for me as far as

4113
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,920
this evaluation was just that we did

4114
02:40:11,920 --> 02:40:13,680
complete it by the timeline and if

4115
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:16,000
anybody had any concerns or questions to

4116
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:18,560
reach out. Um the standards and

4117
02:40:18,560 --> 02:40:20,560
everything was self-explanatory, had the

4118
02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:23,760
writing in the box that you know to

4119
02:40:23,760 --> 02:40:25,520
illustrate and and explain what they

4120
02:40:25,520 --> 02:40:27,200
were looking for. For me, it was just

4121
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:29,280
that we got it done on time, similar to

4122
02:40:29,280 --> 02:40:31,760
last year, so we could then schedule the

4123
02:40:31,760 --> 02:40:32,960
meeting that I was trying to schedule

4124
02:40:32,960 --> 02:40:34,399
with the three of you guys, for us to

4125
02:40:34,399 --> 02:40:36,000
put it together and sit down and have

4126
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:36,880
that conversation.

4127
02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:38,160
>> And to that, I would just say, I guess

4128
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:40,240
it's uh it's more important than to just

4129
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:42,560
get it done on time. Um I think it's

4130
02:40:42,560 --> 02:40:44,399
more important as the other members have

4131
02:40:44,399 --> 02:40:46,960
mentioned that we discuss this a little

4132
02:40:46,960 --> 02:40:48,240
bit more

4133
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:51,840
>> and and um allowed some feedback from

4134
02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:54,880
the superintendent within the process

4135
02:40:54,880 --> 02:40:57,760
um so that she so that we could have as

4136
02:40:57,760 --> 02:41:01,920
a as a whole had a better um

4137
02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:02,880
perspective. I

4138
02:41:02,880 --> 02:41:04,960
>> I think the feedback was that meeting

4139
02:41:04,960 --> 02:41:07,040
that we did I did request that she came

4140
02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:09,920
in and present on the evaluation. In my

4141
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:12,000
experience, it's not like we do away, we

4142
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:13,920
give it to her, she gives some feedback.

4143
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:15,600
We all submit it and the committee

4144
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:17,680
members that sit down, put it together,

4145
02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:19,040
then have a discussion. If there's

4146
02:41:19,040 --> 02:41:21,120
anything that needs to be sent back or

4147
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:23,760
needs further clarification, then we ask

4148
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:27,280
the um the other thing too is we were

4149
02:41:27,280 --> 02:41:28,880
given about a month, which I think is

4150
02:41:28,880 --> 02:41:31,120
reasonable to do an evaluation. We were

4151
02:41:31,120 --> 02:41:32,960
provided with the book and there's the

4152
02:41:32,960 --> 02:41:35,840
DESI review, the OIG report, and all

4153
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:39,680
these resources at our disposal. Um, and

4154
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:41,760
also I think

4155
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:43,680
there's no set timeline, but we were

4156
02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:45,840
given a timeline just like we for

4157
02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:47,920
instance hold her to that standard of we

4158
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:49,280
need these things done by a certain

4159
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,120
timeline or we should get these

4160
02:41:51,120 --> 02:41:52,720
information on time. I think we should

4161
02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:55,520
also abide by that same standard in a

4162
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:58,640
sense. Um then this is part of the

4163
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:00,160
school what the school committee does is

4164
02:42:00,160 --> 02:42:02,240
complete the evaluation and if we and

4165
02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:04,160
that timeline was provided here and I

4166
02:42:04,160 --> 02:42:05,920
gave a reminder to the whole group in a

4167
02:42:05,920 --> 02:42:08,720
subsequent meeting. So we knew how long

4168
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:10,880
we had we knew the timeline the

4169
02:42:10,880 --> 02:42:13,040
evaluation was shared with everybody. So

4170
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:15,200
I did expect everybody to complete it by

4171
02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:18,000
that timeline. Now, granted things

4172
02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:20,479
happen, um it doesn't mean we're going

4173
02:42:20,479 --> 02:42:22,160
to just stop you from doing it because

4174
02:42:22,160 --> 02:42:23,840
members still got to complete it after

4175
02:42:23,840 --> 02:42:26,000
the fact. If that I don't know if that

4176
02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:29,120
answer your questions. Um

4177
02:42:29,120 --> 02:42:31,040
but anyways, it is the will of the

4178
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:34,319
committee. We have the evaluation. This

4179
02:42:34,319 --> 02:42:36,319
is nothing different from how we did it

4180
02:42:36,319 --> 02:42:40,000
last year. Um we can go on our websites,

4181
02:42:40,000 --> 02:42:42,399
the same thing that we uploaded. a few

4182
02:42:42,399 --> 02:42:44,160
things that I will say and then I'll

4183
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:45,920
open it up to the rest of the members if

4184
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:48,560
they want to say anything

4185
02:42:48,560 --> 02:42:50,319
uh to the superintendent. I know how

4186
02:42:50,319 --> 02:42:52,720
difficult it can be to you know being a

4187
02:42:52,720 --> 02:42:54,240
superintendent and all the work that you

4188
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:56,399
have to do. Uh I think Mr. Rodriguez can

4189
02:42:56,399 --> 02:42:58,960
agree from a vice chair perspective. You

4190
02:42:58,960 --> 02:43:00,800
can see some of the things that goes on

4191
02:43:00,800 --> 02:43:02,479
and some of the work that the

4192
02:43:02,479 --> 02:43:05,200
superintendent has put in and her staff.

4193
02:43:05,200 --> 02:43:08,399
Um so I think a proficient across all

4194
02:43:08,399 --> 02:43:11,359
standards and goals is appropriate. Uh

4195
02:43:11,359 --> 02:43:13,439
it's welld deserved. You've been working

4196
02:43:13,439 --> 02:43:18,000
hard uh from the moment you got here um

4197
02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:20,960
a year, two years ago um till now and

4198
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:23,280
we've seen a lot of progress. A lot of

4199
02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:25,760
things have changed. A lot of things

4200
02:43:25,760 --> 02:43:28,160
have been implemented. A lot of goals

4201
02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:30,160
have been accomplished. And I'm not just

4202
02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:32,319
saying that for myself. The OIG report,

4203
02:43:32,319 --> 02:43:36,240
the DESIE review says the same. um and

4204
02:43:36,240 --> 02:43:38,319
seeing you and your team just working

4205
02:43:38,319 --> 02:43:40,720
trying to make sure we are fulfilling

4206
02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:43,520
the needs, we are fulfilling all these

4207
02:43:43,520 --> 02:43:45,920
um all the work that needs to be done

4208
02:43:45,920 --> 02:43:47,680
and making sure the district is doing

4209
02:43:47,680 --> 02:43:50,399
what it's supposed to do. Um so I

4210
02:43:50,399 --> 02:43:52,080
applaud you. I applaud your team for all

4211
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:54,479
the work that you guys do. Um proficient

4212
02:43:54,479 --> 02:43:58,000
all across is exactly what I expected.

4213
02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:00,240
um you guys have put in a tremendous

4214
02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:03,200
amount of work and again Miss Sent you

4215
02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:04,880
mentioned earlier there's you know

4216
02:44:04,880 --> 02:44:06,160
you're working for the district but

4217
02:44:06,160 --> 02:44:08,000
you're also working for this committee

4218
02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:09,920
we often have different perspective

4219
02:44:09,920 --> 02:44:11,840
different views and I've seen you trying

4220
02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:14,399
to run around and accommodate for

4221
02:44:14,399 --> 02:44:16,240
everybody which I always tell you it's

4222
02:44:16,240 --> 02:44:18,880
not always possible uh we can't have it

4223
02:44:18,880 --> 02:44:21,279
all um maybe something that I want is

4224
02:44:21,279 --> 02:44:22,880
not something one of my colleagues want

4225
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:24,319
to do or the way that we want to go

4226
02:44:24,319 --> 02:44:26,080
about it but you still try to make it

4227
02:44:26,080 --> 02:44:28,080
happen so I appreciate all the work you

4228
02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:32,880
put in. Um, and I hope um, you know,

4229
02:44:32,880 --> 02:44:36,160
with this evaluation, also communicating

4230
02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:37,680
with members throughout our district

4231
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:40,399
that we can be more supportive of not

4232
02:44:40,399 --> 02:44:41,680
just one another, but of the

4233
02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:43,359
superintendent and her team and some of

4234
02:44:43,359 --> 02:44:45,840
the work that needs to be done. Um, we

4235
02:44:45,840 --> 02:44:47,680
keep going back and forth a lot. I don't

4236
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:49,920
know, we just had some back and forth

4237
02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:53,520
here, but we we need to focus on the

4238
02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:55,680
main goal uh, and keep that in mind as

4239
02:44:55,680 --> 02:44:58,710
we move forward.

4240
02:44:58,720 --> 02:45:00,720
Uh, Miss Oliver,

4241
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:02,479
>> I think before I put a motion through, I

4242
02:45:02,479 --> 02:45:05,600
think um just to go back on Miss Aac, I

4243
02:45:05,600 --> 02:45:07,279
think that definitely something we need

4244
02:45:07,279 --> 02:45:09,600
to figure out how this valuation was

4245
02:45:09,600 --> 02:45:12,160
done. I know you had opinions last year

4246
02:45:12,160 --> 02:45:14,399
um regarding this valuation.

4247
02:45:14,399 --> 02:45:15,840
Unfortunately, it was not implemented

4248
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:17,760
this year. And I think that's something

4249
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:19,840
as we go from vice chair to vice chair

4250
02:45:19,840 --> 02:45:22,399
to speak to each other to pass the baton

4251
02:45:22,399 --> 02:45:24,880
correctly as we like you know mentor

4252
02:45:24,880 --> 02:45:26,720
each other and say listen this is what

4253
02:45:26,720 --> 02:45:29,120
the individuals from last year or last

4254
02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:31,359
time said we can improve on the

4255
02:45:31,359 --> 02:45:33,120
valuation so we can make those

4256
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:35,120
corrections but if certain individuals

4257
02:45:35,120 --> 02:45:36,880
are not

4258
02:45:36,880 --> 02:45:38,640
you know given that information to next

4259
02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:41,120
vice chair is very hard for the next

4260
02:45:41,120 --> 02:45:43,279
vice chair to implement those changes.

4261
02:45:43,279 --> 02:45:45,520
So I think as we move forward we also

4262
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:47,200
should have an evaluation on the vice

4263
02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:49,120
chair and how we move how certain things

4264
02:45:49,120 --> 02:45:51,359
are being done so the future vice chair

4265
02:45:51,359 --> 02:45:54,080
can see what was done and how we can

4266
02:45:54,080 --> 02:45:56,160
change it better. I think just having

4267
02:45:56,160 --> 02:45:58,640
those hard conversation to basically

4268
02:45:58,640 --> 02:46:00,399
help each other like if you don't if you

4269
02:46:00,399 --> 02:46:02,399
think the valuation can be improved

4270
02:46:02,399 --> 02:46:04,319
let's have a conversation among

4271
02:46:04,319 --> 02:46:06,640
ourselves to see how we can implement a

4272
02:46:06,640 --> 02:46:09,279
better valuation for next year. But we

4273
02:46:09,279 --> 02:46:11,040
did have almost like a month and we had

4274
02:46:11,040 --> 02:46:13,840
the booklet and all the information um

4275
02:46:13,840 --> 02:46:16,640
with us. I think it's Yeah, maybe the

4276
02:46:16,640 --> 02:46:18,319
years past we were doing it, you know,

4277
02:46:18,319 --> 02:46:20,960
you guys were doing later in the year. I

4278
02:46:20,960 --> 02:46:22,560
like it this way to do it mid year

4279
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:24,640
before the next um school year, you

4280
02:46:24,640 --> 02:46:27,439
know, start the fiscal year started. I

4281
02:46:27,439 --> 02:46:29,040
don't mind it, but I think the valuation

4282
02:46:29,040 --> 02:46:31,279
itself, it's not the best. Definitely

4283
02:46:31,279 --> 02:46:34,240
not the best um format. I work with

4284
02:46:34,240 --> 02:46:36,479
better ones. it's more easy to

4285
02:46:36,479 --> 02:46:38,479
understand to basically put the goals

4286
02:46:38,479 --> 02:46:40,960
and implement the changes and the growth

4287
02:46:40,960 --> 02:46:43,359
um that I deal with uh on the year

4288
02:46:43,359 --> 02:46:45,359
yearly bas. But I think it's something

4289
02:46:45,359 --> 02:46:46,880
that we need to look and see how we can

4290
02:46:46,880 --> 02:46:49,200
fix it. But I'm just going to put the

4291
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:51,520
motion into

4292
02:46:51,520 --> 02:46:53,680
number C uh vote for superintendent

4293
02:46:53,680 --> 02:46:55,600
evaluation approval.

4294
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:57,520
>> That's a form of a motion.

4295
02:46:57,520 --> 02:46:58,640
>> Yes.

4296
02:46:58,640 --> 02:47:00,800
>> Is there a second?

4297
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:01,359
>> Second.

4298
02:47:01,359 --> 02:47:03,760
>> A motion has been made and second. Do

4299
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:05,439
you did you have something to say, Miss

4300
02:47:05,439 --> 02:47:08,720
Santea, on the motion?

4301
02:47:08,720 --> 02:47:11,200
>> I I I did, but I feel like what is the

4302
02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:14,160
point? So, I feel like as a newbie that

4303
02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:17,359
just started in January, um, yes. Do I

4304
02:47:17,359 --> 02:47:19,520
agree with the form itself? No, I do

4305
02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:22,720
not. Like, it was not friendly to use.

4306
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:25,600
However, I took it upon myself to attend

4307
02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:28,160
a training so I can learn what I'm

4308
02:47:28,160 --> 02:47:32,000
supposed to be doing. one. Two, I even

4309
02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:33,920
took it a step further to share with all

4310
02:47:33,920 --> 02:47:36,479
of you guys the recording. So, you was

4311
02:47:36,479 --> 02:47:40,479
not able to attend. Here it is. And as

4312
02:47:40,479 --> 02:47:42,399
someone that I would like to believe I'm

4313
02:47:42,399 --> 02:47:45,600
a busy mom, right? I'm a mom of two. I

4314
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:47,840
have two jobs.

4315
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:50,640
There was a timeline and I honor that. I

4316
02:47:50,640 --> 02:47:53,600
remember being in grad school. Um there

4317
02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:55,279
was a timeline of when assignments

4318
02:47:55,279 --> 02:47:58,720
needed to be done because so I'm not I'm

4319
02:47:58,720 --> 02:48:01,600
here trying to understand where all

4320
02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:05,520
these where the disconnect is happening

4321
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:07,680
when we could have easily emailed each

4322
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:09,680
other or emailed and asked for

4323
02:48:09,680 --> 02:48:11,200
clarification

4324
02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:14,960
what is needed. Um again I'm new. I only

4325
02:48:14,960 --> 02:48:17,120
been here since January. Um so I feel

4326
02:48:17,120 --> 02:48:19,359
like some of you guys has been here

4327
02:48:19,359 --> 02:48:22,319
longer than I. So I am ready to to move

4328
02:48:22,319 --> 02:48:26,160
to um put a motion so we can vote on

4329
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:28,479
this so we can move forward so we can

4330
02:48:28,479 --> 02:48:30,880
address the next topic.

4331
02:48:30,880 --> 02:48:32,080
>> All right. Motion

4332
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:32,720
>> on that motion.

4333
02:48:32,720 --> 02:48:33,840
>> Motion, Miss Azac.

4334
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:35,680
>> So to make my point, look at the last

4335
02:48:35,680 --> 02:48:38,160
page. So how do you give somebody that

4336
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:39,680
kind of a statement and then you do

4337
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:41,840
unsatisfactory? Did you reach out to the

4338
02:48:41,840 --> 02:48:44,080
member and clarify? Is that what you

4339
02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:47,359
wanted to do as a reading?

4340
02:48:47,359 --> 02:48:48,800
>> Last page.

4341
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:50,240
>> Yeah, Mr. all of us coming.

4342
02:48:50,240 --> 02:48:52,399
>> Did you reach up? So you do that

4343
02:48:52,399 --> 02:48:55,120
>> not well to write this is this is what

4344
02:48:55,120 --> 02:48:56,240
I'm saying Joyce

4345
02:48:56,240 --> 02:48:59,200
>> they okay I'm just saying it just again

4346
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:01,600
and I don't think more training is I

4347
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:03,520
don't think we need nothing to do with

4348
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:04,880
training this was how he

4349
02:49:04,880 --> 02:49:06,399
>> No I'm just saying I don't think I know

4350
02:49:06,399 --> 02:49:08,479
we got to because we did something last

4351
02:49:08,479 --> 02:49:09,600
year but ex

4352
02:49:09,600 --> 02:49:10,240
>> I know

4353
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:13,040
>> but I can bring other over the years

4354
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:15,279
we've had members from Brockton public

4355
02:49:15,279 --> 02:49:17,359
schools come before the committee so let

4356
02:49:17,359 --> 02:49:18,720
me just educate the committee they would

4357
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:23,040
come before the committee explain how this is going to be done. Go

4358
02:49:23,040 --> 02:49:24,880
through all the standards and explain

4359
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:26,800
it. So, it wasn't just given to us and

4360
02:49:26,800 --> 02:49:27,760
then said, [clears throat] "Here you go,

4361
02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:30,319
do it." Um, we've I've done evaluations.

4362
02:49:30,319 --> 02:49:31,680
I have no problem doing it, but I'm just

4363
02:49:31,680 --> 02:49:33,279
saying we keep saying this is how we did

4364
02:49:33,279 --> 02:49:34,240
it last year.

4365
02:49:34,240 --> 02:49:36,479
>> Last year, I remember voicing concerns

4366
02:49:36,479 --> 02:49:39,439
about that form. Um, but again, it's

4367
02:49:39,439 --> 02:49:41,439
just I don't think we need more

4368
02:49:41,439 --> 02:49:43,760
training. I just we really need to look

4369
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:45,359
at better because I mean, again,

4370
02:49:45,359 --> 02:49:47,120
clicking on things and going through it

4371
02:49:47,120 --> 02:49:50,960
just was not user friendly. Um, but

4372
02:49:50,960 --> 02:49:52,080
we're just not I'm not going to keep

4373
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:53,840
harping on this, but again, it just I

4374
02:49:53,840 --> 02:49:55,120
don't think the committee needed more

4375
02:49:55,120 --> 02:49:56,800
training on how to do an evaluation.

4376
02:49:56,800 --> 02:49:58,160
>> I agree with you there. I feel like

4377
02:49:58,160 --> 02:49:58,960
we're all complicated.

4378
02:49:58,960 --> 02:50:00,319
>> We've all attended mask. We've all

4379
02:50:00,319 --> 02:50:01,359
attended chatting.

4380
02:50:01,359 --> 02:50:03,600
>> As far as your feedback on the form

4381
02:50:03,600 --> 02:50:05,840
stuff, you gave me that this year after

4382
02:50:05,840 --> 02:50:07,680
the evaluation, like towards the end,

4383
02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:09,840
and I said, "This is good feedback.

4384
02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:12,080
Another member gave me feedback. I'mma

4385
02:50:12,080 --> 02:50:14,240
pass it on to the next whoever vice

4386
02:50:14,240 --> 02:50:16,479
chair is or the district and have them

4387
02:50:16,479 --> 02:50:19,760
improve it." Simple. How does that sound

4388
02:50:19,760 --> 02:50:21,840
to you?

4389
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:23,920
>> It's fine. I'm one I'm one vote.

4390
02:50:23,920 --> 02:50:25,439
>> This is how we're supposed to improve.

4391
02:50:25,439 --> 02:50:27,200
We give each other feedback. You gave me

4392
02:50:27,200 --> 02:50:28,960
that feedback. I took I said, "Yes,

4393
02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:30,640
I'mma pass it on. So, next year we're

4394
02:50:30,640 --> 02:50:32,560
going to do a better form. It's more

4395
02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:35,200
user friendly." Whatever the case is,

4396
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:37,040
>> but just for clarification, we could we

4397
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:39,279
are not able to discuss the evaluation

4398
02:50:39,279 --> 02:50:41,040
with each other ahead of time.

4399
02:50:41,040 --> 02:50:43,520
>> Uh we would be violating um in

4400
02:50:43,520 --> 02:50:45,200
violation. So, we cannot discuss it with

4401
02:50:45,200 --> 02:50:46,640
each other and email each other back and

4402
02:50:46,640 --> 02:50:48,880
forth. This is our individual um

4403
02:50:48,880 --> 02:50:52,160
evaluations. But again, I just

4404
02:50:52,160 --> 02:50:54,080
>> No, I totally understand.

4405
02:50:54,080 --> 02:50:55,840
>> But I do feel like if you do need

4406
02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:57,600
clarification

4407
02:50:57,600 --> 02:51:00,160
that we can reach out to superintendent

4408
02:51:00,160 --> 02:51:03,120
if the font of what we receive is too

4409
02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:04,800
small, then we did.

4410
02:51:04,800 --> 02:51:06,160
>> So, you know what I mean? So, like I

4411
02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:08,479
feel like we're just bringing things

4412
02:51:08,479 --> 02:51:10,800
instead of us figuring out are we going

4413
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:13,520
to move forward or not? Um I feel like

4414
02:51:13,520 --> 02:51:14,960
another thing that I constantly hear in

4415
02:51:14,960 --> 02:51:17,359
this committee is that we are

4416
02:51:17,359 --> 02:51:19,760
elected officials. So, if we're

4417
02:51:19,760 --> 02:51:22,880
concerned about how Tim Sullivan

4418
02:51:22,880 --> 02:51:26,319
um did not provide enough information

4419
02:51:26,319 --> 02:51:28,640
um that maybe we need to start

4420
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:30,800
addressing, should he be in this

4421
02:51:30,800 --> 02:51:32,000
committee?

4422
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:34,800
>> Um because I feel like

4423
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:36,800
>> All right, let's let's move forward.

4424
02:51:36,800 --> 02:51:38,319
>> No, actually, vice chair, point of

4425
02:51:38,319 --> 02:51:41,760
clarification. I did not I just said

4426
02:51:41,760 --> 02:51:43,439
make sure when someone clicks on

4427
02:51:43,439 --> 02:51:45,600
something because it just contradicts a

4428
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:49,200
positive a negative was contradicting a

4429
02:51:49,200 --> 02:51:50,800
positive statement. So, I just wanted to

4430
02:51:50,800 --> 02:51:52,640
say they might have clicked on something

4431
02:51:52,640 --> 02:51:54,960
accidentally. Did I was just asking did

4432
02:51:54,960 --> 02:51:56,960
you clarify because I even had questions

4433
02:51:56,960 --> 02:51:59,520
like cutting and pasting the way that

4434
02:51:59,520 --> 02:52:01,680
the format was. It was only one sentence

4435
02:52:01,680 --> 02:52:03,439
at a time. So, that's all it was just

4436
02:52:03,439 --> 02:52:05,120
clarification. It's only to help the

4437
02:52:05,120 --> 02:52:07,120
superintendent not to be against just to

4438
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:08,880
make sure how do you have a positive and

4439
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:10,080
then that was clicked.

4440
02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:12,319
>> So, it could have been an error. I mean,

4441
02:52:12,319 --> 02:52:14,479
I'm all set. Have a good evening.

4442
02:52:14,479 --> 02:52:17,439
>> Thank you. Make it brief and keep it to

4443
02:52:17,439 --> 02:52:21,920
the topic, please, Mr. Rodriguez. the so

4444
02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:24,479
last year was the first year

4445
02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:27,600
as vice chair when I did the uh when we

4446
02:52:27,600 --> 02:52:30,880
did the uh evaluation with that process

4447
02:52:30,880 --> 02:52:32,319
we added two members to that

4448
02:52:32,319 --> 02:52:34,479
subcommittee in order to bring more

4449
02:52:34,479 --> 02:52:36,560
transparency uh to do that and that

4450
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:39,520
happened last year. So, I mean, some

4451
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:40,960
people want it a certain way, some

4452
02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:42,880
people don't want it a certain way, but

4453
02:52:42,880 --> 02:52:44,479
I think collectively we just have to g

4454
02:52:44,479 --> 02:52:47,600
up into a a simpler format. Um, you

4455
02:52:47,600 --> 02:52:49,279
know, how we want it. And it's a

4456
02:52:49,279 --> 02:52:51,359
learning experience as being a vice

4457
02:52:51,359 --> 02:52:54,080
chair and doing your first evaluation

4458
02:52:54,080 --> 02:52:55,680
and then trying to compare it to years

4459
02:52:55,680 --> 02:52:58,000
past as just a member. You don't and I

4460
02:52:58,000 --> 02:52:59,439
understand that. Um and this is

4461
02:52:59,439 --> 02:53:00,560
something from last year to this year

4462
02:53:00,560 --> 02:53:03,120
that we, you know, prior to having the

4463
02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:05,120
uh the final superintendent that all the

4464
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:06,880
members get everybody's copy so they can

4465
02:53:06,880 --> 02:53:08,479
review it and they can forward it to the

4466
02:53:08,479 --> 02:53:10,720
vice chair and the team to to look at it

4467
02:53:10,720 --> 02:53:13,760
to to make any um you know you know for

4468
02:53:13,760 --> 02:53:15,600
you know exemplary or and satisfactory

4469
02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:17,359
to to provide those evidence. That's

4470
02:53:17,359 --> 02:53:19,840
it's one of those uh uh learning

4471
02:53:19,840 --> 02:53:22,560
experiences of that. But um I know

4472
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:24,479
there's a motion on the floor, but I

4473
02:53:24,479 --> 02:53:26,960
just want to just clarify it just to uh

4474
02:53:26,960 --> 02:53:29,040
my vote is not personal. It's that I

4475
02:53:29,040 --> 02:53:31,520
wanted to see some certain stuff. So

4476
02:53:31,520 --> 02:53:34,160
>> No, no, that's fine. Um

4477
02:53:34,160 --> 02:53:37,120
where did she go?

4478
02:53:37,120 --> 02:53:38,880
>> No, I completely understand. It is a

4479
02:53:38,880 --> 02:53:40,319
learning experience. That's what I'm

4480
02:53:40,319 --> 02:53:42,640
trying to say. So every time we do,

4481
02:53:42,640 --> 02:53:44,960
especially now that this committee is

4482
02:53:44,960 --> 02:53:47,040
being more transparent, we will improve

4483
02:53:47,040 --> 02:53:49,279
upon something with feedback, with

4484
02:53:49,279 --> 02:53:53,120
communicating with one another. Um,

4485
02:53:53,120 --> 02:53:54,960
we have a motion on the floor with papy

4486
02:53:54,960 --> 02:53:59,040
second. Uh, Miss Oliver,

4487
02:53:59,040 --> 02:53:59,600
>> yes.

4488
02:53:59,600 --> 02:54:00,960
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

4489
02:54:00,960 --> 02:54:01,680
>> no.

4490
02:54:01,680 --> 02:54:02,560
>> Miss Azac,

4491
02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:04,080
>> nothing personal, but I'd like to review

4492
02:54:04,080 --> 02:54:06,080
this, so I'm a no. I'd like to review it

4493
02:54:06,080 --> 02:54:08,800
further. Why is everybody leaving?

4494
02:54:08,800 --> 02:54:09,680
>> Mr. Ina

4495
02:54:09,680 --> 02:54:10,800
>> no.

4496
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:13,279
>> Mr. Sullivan.

4497
02:54:13,279 --> 02:54:14,240
>> Yes.

4498
02:54:14,240 --> 02:54:15,920
>> Miss Contento.

4499
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:16,399
>> Yes.

4500
02:54:16,399 --> 02:54:19,680
>> I'm a yes as well. It carries. Uh we

4501
02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:22,479
will move on to agendum item D.

4502
02:54:22,479 --> 02:54:24,240
Discussion potential vote approval of

4503
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:26,800
higher benefits coordinator position.

4504
02:54:26,800 --> 02:54:28,560
Mr.

4505
02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:31,520
Superintendent.

4506
02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:35,120
>> Go first. So this position um uh the

4507
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:38,479
need for it is is uh interesting because

4508
02:54:38,479 --> 02:54:41,040
it was not uh part of our original plan

4509
02:54:41,040 --> 02:54:44,705
or uh part of our budget from last year.

4510
02:54:44,705 --> 02:54:46,960
[snorts] Um because generally benefits

4511
02:54:46,960 --> 02:54:49,760
have been handled by the city. Um

4512
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:51,279
however

4513
02:54:51,279 --> 02:54:54,399
recently uh we have been taking on more

4514
02:54:54,399 --> 02:54:56,720
of the benefits responsibilities and the

4515
02:54:56,720 --> 02:54:59,840
city has actually asked us to take on

4516
02:54:59,840 --> 02:55:02,640
the full benefits responsibilities for

4517
02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:06,000
the school district. So the 3,000

4518
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:08,800
employees that we have um obviously this

4519
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:13,600
is a a huge amount of work. um and in

4520
02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:16,319
city hall uh they do have several

4521
02:55:16,319 --> 02:55:20,399
benefits um coordinators. Um [snorts]

4522
02:55:20,399 --> 02:55:24,640
and so in order to take on this uh

4523
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:26,800
additional responsibility

4524
02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:29,279
uh we did speak with the city about the

4525
02:55:29,279 --> 02:55:31,600
fact that we do have schedule 19

4526
02:55:31,600 --> 02:55:34,080
chargebacks and we pay for part of the

4527
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:37,760
HR office at city hall. And so if this

4528
02:55:37,760 --> 02:55:40,319
is a responsibility that we are going to

4529
02:55:40,319 --> 02:55:44,000
be taking on that then that funding that

4530
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:46,479
is in the schedule 19 for the HR office

4531
02:55:46,479 --> 02:55:48,399
needs to come back to the school

4532
02:55:48,399 --> 02:55:50,240
department so that we can fund this

4533
02:55:50,240 --> 02:55:51,920
position. So that is how this position

4534
02:55:51,920 --> 02:55:54,160
will be funded is from our own schedule

4535
02:55:54,160 --> 02:55:55,680
19. So basically it's just a

4536
02:55:55,680 --> 02:55:59,520
reallocation of these funds. Um I think

4537
02:55:59,520 --> 02:56:03,680
it does raise. So the the uh job

4538
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:05,200
description that you see is very similar

4539
02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:08,880
to the one I believe for city hall. Um

4540
02:56:08,880 --> 02:56:14,720
along with the the salary range. Um and

4541
02:56:14,720 --> 02:56:18,080
um sorry, what was I going to say? I've

4542
02:56:18,080 --> 02:56:20,080
now lost my train of thought. Oh, this

4543
02:56:20,080 --> 02:56:22,319
brings up the question I that I I know

4544
02:56:22,319 --> 02:56:25,600
we've been talking about um [snorts] a

4545
02:56:25,600 --> 02:56:27,359
lot and we've been hearing about a lot

4546
02:56:27,359 --> 02:56:32,000
about merging the city and the school's

4547
02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:36,800
uh departments and responsibilities and

4548
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:40,399
I know I have have talked about being

4549
02:56:40,399 --> 02:56:43,120
certainly open to that conversation as

4550
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:45,120
long as we're very clear about what are

4551
02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:47,200
the steps, what are the timelines, where

4552
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:48,960
are the responsibility centers, who are

4553
02:56:48,960 --> 02:56:52,399
the supervisors. Um because otherwise it

4554
02:56:52,399 --> 02:56:56,000
just becomes like a like I the merger if

4555
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:57,359
you're just merging the departments

4556
02:56:57,359 --> 02:56:58,640
there's still people who have to do

4557
02:56:58,640 --> 02:57:01,279
those jobs and you still have to pay the

4558
02:57:01,279 --> 02:57:04,000
and so actually when I was presenting in

4559
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:05,359
front of the city council or when they

4560
02:57:05,359 --> 02:57:07,040
invited me to talk about the merging of

4561
02:57:07,040 --> 02:57:09,520
departments we spent the majority of the

4562
02:57:09,520 --> 02:57:11,760
time talking about uh school police as

4563
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:15,040
sort of the first pilot. Um,

4564
02:57:15,040 --> 02:57:16,880
however, I had also provided to them

4565
02:57:16,880 --> 02:57:21,120
because I'd done some research on cities

4566
02:57:21,120 --> 02:57:23,600
that have municipalities that have

4567
02:57:23,600 --> 02:57:25,760
merged certain departments with their

4568
02:57:25,760 --> 02:57:28,640
school department. And what was found in

4569
02:57:28,640 --> 02:57:30,399
many of those cases is that it doesn't

4570
02:57:30,399 --> 02:57:32,319
end up actually being a huge cost

4571
02:57:32,319 --> 02:57:33,920
savings because the work doesn't

4572
02:57:33,920 --> 02:57:36,560
disappear. The work is just shifted from

4573
02:57:36,560 --> 02:57:38,560
one to the other or you're saying now

4574
02:57:38,560 --> 02:57:41,040
it's a department together. And so

4575
02:57:41,040 --> 02:57:43,760
anyway, so this is all to say that I

4576
02:57:43,760 --> 02:57:46,160
know we need to have that more clear

4577
02:57:46,160 --> 02:57:47,840
conversation about when we're talking

4578
02:57:47,840 --> 02:57:49,359
about merging departments, what does

4579
02:57:49,359 --> 02:57:50,960
that really look like? Because shifting

4580
02:57:50,960 --> 02:57:52,640
work from the city to the schools and

4581
02:57:52,640 --> 02:57:54,479
isn't exactly I feel like we're actually

4582
02:57:54,479 --> 02:57:57,840
going the opposite direction. Um that

4583
02:57:57,840 --> 02:58:00,479
all being said, we are taking on the

4584
02:58:00,479 --> 02:58:03,279
benefits. Uh the HR department has been

4585
02:58:03,279 --> 02:58:06,640
uh in meetings with the HR department on

4586
02:58:06,640 --> 02:58:08,880
the city hall side has been starting to

4587
02:58:08,880 --> 02:58:10,960
be part of those meetings. uh been

4588
02:58:10,960 --> 02:58:12,000
working with their benefits

4589
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:13,760
coordinators, but it is a huge amount of

4590
02:58:13,760 --> 02:58:15,359
work. And for those of you who were on

4591
02:58:15,359 --> 02:58:17,920
the committee um last year, my first

4592
02:58:17,920 --> 02:58:20,800
year, we actually

4593
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:23,359
had done an or you all had done an HR

4594
02:58:23,359 --> 02:58:27,040
audit before I even arrived that then

4595
02:58:27,040 --> 02:58:29,359
resulted in a restructure of the HR

4596
02:58:29,359 --> 02:58:31,120
department when I did arrive. So, we

4597
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:34,080
actually um made the department smaller.

4598
02:58:34,080 --> 02:58:38,160
We we streamlined some of the the um job

4599
02:58:38,160 --> 02:58:41,040
responsibilities. And so we actually

4600
02:58:41,040 --> 02:58:43,760
have an HR department that now has less

4601
02:58:43,760 --> 02:58:45,600
people and costs less than it did when I

4602
02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:48,479
first arrived as a result of that audit.

4603
02:58:48,479 --> 02:58:50,800
But if if now we have to take on these

4604
02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:53,120
more responsibilities, we do still need

4605
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:55,680
like the the office as it stands right

4606
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:57,600
now just doesn't have the capacity to do

4607
02:58:57,600 --> 02:59:00,160
it. Now I have very mixed feelings about

4608
02:59:00,160 --> 02:59:04,000
us taking on the benefits um

4609
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:06,160
uh because on on one hand it's a huge

4610
02:59:06,160 --> 02:59:08,160
amount of work for the HR department. On

4611
02:59:08,160 --> 02:59:09,520
the other hand, I know that it has been

4612
02:59:09,520 --> 02:59:12,240
a conversation amongst many of us um and

4613
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:14,240
with the city that there have been

4614
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:16,240
concerns regarding benefits and there

4615
02:59:16,240 --> 02:59:18,640
have been concerns about benefits um

4616
02:59:18,640 --> 02:59:20,720
continuing maybe when an employee is no

4617
02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:23,439
longer uh with us anymore. And that has

4618
02:59:23,439 --> 02:59:24,560
been something that the school

4619
02:59:24,560 --> 02:59:26,640
department actually has been our team

4620
02:59:26,640 --> 02:59:29,359
has been supporting in auditing and

4621
02:59:29,359 --> 02:59:31,040
looking at and making sure is done

4622
02:59:31,040 --> 02:59:32,640
appropriately because obviously that

4623
02:59:32,640 --> 02:59:35,279
costs all of us money. But since we have

4624
02:59:35,279 --> 02:59:37,359
the most employees in the city, it costs

4625
02:59:37,359 --> 02:59:39,439
us the most money if we're paying for

4626
02:59:39,439 --> 02:59:42,560
folks who are not um

4627
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:44,080
who are not supposed to be getting these

4628
02:59:44,080 --> 02:59:46,479
benefits. So on one hand, it's a huge

4629
02:59:46,479 --> 02:59:47,920
amount of work that is going to take a

4630
02:59:47,920 --> 02:59:49,600
lot of capacity and take a lot of staff.

4631
02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:52,160
On the other hand, does it, you know, I

4632
02:59:52,160 --> 02:59:54,960
do have some mixed feelings because I I

4633
02:59:54,960 --> 02:59:57,200
do want us to have more eyes on the

4634
02:59:57,200 --> 02:59:58,800
benefits on the school department side

4635
02:59:58,800 --> 03:00:01,439
to make sure that we are not paying for

4636
03:00:01,439 --> 03:00:03,359
employees that no longer work for us or

4637
03:00:03,359 --> 03:00:04,479
that shouldn't be getting certain

4638
03:00:04,479 --> 03:00:07,680
benefits. Um, so anyway, this is all to

4639
03:00:07,680 --> 03:00:10,560
say that I have mixed feelings, but uh

4640
03:00:10,560 --> 03:00:12,640
the work has been shifted over to us.

4641
03:00:12,640 --> 03:00:14,479
The HR department at city hall does not

4642
03:00:14,479 --> 03:00:16,880
have the capacity. uh we would be doing

4643
03:00:16,880 --> 03:00:20,399
it and I think m honestly one benefits

4644
03:00:20,399 --> 03:00:22,160
coordinator I don't even know if that's

4645
03:00:22,160 --> 03:00:25,600
going to be enough um to to do all 3,000

4646
03:00:25,600 --> 03:00:27,439
but at least for now as we're starting

4647
03:00:27,439 --> 03:00:28,800
this in the middle of the year and

4648
03:00:28,800 --> 03:00:31,120
transitioning this work over um it would

4649
03:00:31,120 --> 03:00:34,479
at least be a start.

4650
03:00:34,479 --> 03:00:37,120
>> So this is this was the question that I

4651
03:00:37,120 --> 03:00:40,319
had but so since you now presented it it

4652
03:00:40,319 --> 03:00:45,600
kind of shifts a little bit. Um I wish id known that beforehand. Uh

4653
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:47,439
so

4654
03:00:47,439 --> 03:00:49,120
okay

4655
03:00:49,120 --> 03:00:52,000
so I in my experience I've worked in the

4656
03:00:52,000 --> 03:00:53,359
federal government and and I was lucky

4657
03:00:53,359 --> 03:00:55,120
enough to be over an office where I had

4658
03:00:55,120 --> 03:00:56,960
control over HR and all that other stuff

4659
03:00:56,960 --> 03:00:58,640
right

4660
03:00:58,640 --> 03:01:00,960
3,000 employees and how many do we how

4661
03:01:00,960 --> 03:01:04,080
many HR um whether we call them liaison

4662
03:01:04,080 --> 03:01:05,920
or whatever we call them what how many

4663
03:01:05,920 --> 03:01:09,920
>> so we have in the department um six

4664
03:01:09,920 --> 03:01:12,960
seven people eight people.

4665
03:01:12,960 --> 03:01:16,399
>> Okay. Um, wow.

4666
03:01:16,399 --> 03:01:17,439
>> So, this would be nine.

4667
03:01:17,439 --> 03:01:18,240
>> That would be nine.

4668
03:01:18,240 --> 03:01:18,880
>> This would be nine.

4669
03:01:18,880 --> 03:01:20,960
>> And And so,

4670
03:01:20,960 --> 03:01:24,000
>> knowing what I've kind of looked at

4671
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:26,800
previously that we were bringing the

4672
03:01:26,800 --> 03:01:29,279
packets over to city hall once somebody

4673
03:01:29,279 --> 03:01:31,760
came on or left. Right. So, is this

4674
03:01:31,760 --> 03:01:33,840
person now does that eliminate the

4675
03:01:33,840 --> 03:01:35,359
packet going over to city hall?

4676
03:01:35,359 --> 03:01:36,960
>> Well, we're digitizing all of that

4677
03:01:36,960 --> 03:01:38,640
anyway. So that has been a project that

4678
03:01:38,640 --> 03:01:40,319
we have been working on in conjunction

4679
03:01:40,319 --> 03:01:42,399
with city hall. But this would actually

4680
03:01:42,399 --> 03:01:45,520
be someone who even enroll like helps to

4681
03:01:45,520 --> 03:01:47,920
enroll folks. But yes, they would not

4682
03:01:47,920 --> 03:01:49,760
then have to go over to city hall and

4683
03:01:49,760 --> 03:01:50,640
sign up for insurance.

4684
03:01:50,640 --> 03:01:52,880
>> So your expectation is is that this

4685
03:01:52,880 --> 03:01:55,840
person works 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a

4686
03:01:55,840 --> 03:01:58,870
year.

4687
03:01:58,880 --> 03:02:01,600
» I'm sorry. Say um meaning are they a

4688
03:02:01,600 --> 03:02:03,920
full-time employ,000?

4689
03:02:03,920 --> 03:02:04,479
>> Yes.

4690
03:02:04,479 --> 03:02:06,080
>> So you think only one?

4691
03:02:06,080 --> 03:02:08,000
>> No, I don't. Okay. Um

4692
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:09,279
>> because then that means they can't take

4693
03:02:09,279 --> 03:02:10,960
leave. They can't get sick.

4694
03:02:10,960 --> 03:02:12,960
>> Right. I mean, I do think we are going

4695
03:02:12,960 --> 03:02:15,439
to have to hire that this is we're going

4696
03:02:15,439 --> 03:02:16,880
to have to have and this is part of that

4697
03:02:16,880 --> 03:02:19,040
larger conversation because some of the

4698
03:02:19,040 --> 03:02:20,399
things that we've been doing right now

4699
03:02:20,399 --> 03:02:23,279
is telling um city hall that we've got a

4700
03:02:23,279 --> 03:02:25,600
halt like we can't be taking it all on.

4701
03:02:25,600 --> 03:02:27,439
We just don't have the capacity. So,

4702
03:02:27,439 --> 03:02:28,800
this would at least give us some

4703
03:02:28,800 --> 03:02:30,640
capacity to start to take on the work,

4704
03:02:30,640 --> 03:02:33,040
but I do not by any means believe that

4705
03:02:33,040 --> 03:02:34,880
this is going to give us the capacity to

4706
03:02:34,880 --> 03:02:36,880
do all employees. So, we're going to,

4707
03:02:36,880 --> 03:02:38,560
and this is what I sort of mean about

4708
03:02:38,560 --> 03:02:41,040
like we can't just talk say we're

4709
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:42,720
merging or we're we or we're

4710
03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:43,840
transferring the work from here to

4711
03:02:43,840 --> 03:02:46,000
there. There needs to be a a business

4712
03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:47,680
plan. There needs to be a timeline.

4713
03:02:47,680 --> 03:02:49,040
There needs to be responsibility

4714
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:50,479
centers. We need to have an

4715
03:02:50,479 --> 03:02:52,160
understanding of what we're doing before

4716
03:02:52,160 --> 03:02:54,319
we're doing it. Um, we need to be

4717
03:02:54,319 --> 03:02:56,000
planning it proactively rather than

4718
03:02:56,000 --> 03:02:59,760
reacting. And and I very uh much admit

4719
03:02:59,760 --> 03:03:02,160
that this is reactive because that work

4720
03:03:02,160 --> 03:03:04,880
has been shifted over to us. So, do I

4721
03:03:04,880 --> 03:03:07,439
think that this is the the greatest plan

4722
03:03:07,439 --> 03:03:08,880
and that this should be the long-term

4723
03:03:08,880 --> 03:03:13,600
plan? Absolutely not. Um, but it it is

4724
03:03:13,600 --> 03:03:16,240
uh just a step as we are trying to

4725
03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:18,080
figure out what the larger plan looks

4726
03:03:18,080 --> 03:03:20,000
like. And I do think we need to have a

4727
03:03:20,000 --> 03:03:21,520
conversation

4728
03:03:21,520 --> 03:03:24,880
with city hall and and I know and again

4729
03:03:24,880 --> 03:03:27,520
Jay Condan has been incredibly uh

4730
03:03:27,520 --> 03:03:28,880
collaborative and supportive and

4731
03:03:28,880 --> 03:03:30,800
recognizes that there's the maintenance

4732
03:03:30,800 --> 03:03:33,520
line of schedule 19 that doesn't exactly

4733
03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:35,680
tie out. So I do believe that it's going

4734
03:03:35,680 --> 03:03:38,960
to be um that you all are going to be

4735
03:03:38,960 --> 03:03:41,120
able to see a schedule 19 that is

4736
03:03:41,120 --> 03:03:43,200
auditable and that is understandable and

4737
03:03:43,200 --> 03:03:44,720
that actually reflects the services

4738
03:03:44,720 --> 03:03:46,960
we're getting. So I do feel confident in

4739
03:03:46,960 --> 03:03:51,200
that now. Um but and so yes this um this

4740
03:03:51,200 --> 03:03:53,520
cost would then be shifted to us from

4741
03:03:53,520 --> 03:03:54,560
that schedule 19.

4742
03:03:54,560 --> 03:03:56,240
>> So I I just have three quick questions.

4743
03:03:56,240 --> 03:04:00,080
So the first first one is um do do our

4744
03:04:00,080 --> 03:04:03,200
current HR employees have the expertise

4745
03:04:03,200 --> 03:04:04,160
to do this?

4746
03:04:04,160 --> 03:04:04,960
>> No.

4747
03:04:04,960 --> 03:04:09,600
>> All right. No. Second um I I've seen our

4748
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:15,760
schedule 19. Um ho how how are we

4749
03:04:15,760 --> 03:04:19,200
predicting the cost that was

4750
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:20,640
>> well that's a great question back

4751
03:04:20,640 --> 03:04:21,279
>> and

4752
03:04:21,279 --> 03:04:24,160
>> so for last year I believe it was

4753
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:26,800
>> almost 400,000

4754
03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:30,000
>> almost $400,000 that we were spending um

4755
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:32,640
on the HR department for city hall that

4756
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:36,319
was one of the the lines so we will be

4757
03:04:36,319 --> 03:04:40,080
putting less than that um by at least 60

4758
03:04:40,080 --> 03:04:42,640
to8 85,000 is I believe the range for

4759
03:04:42,640 --> 03:04:45,600
this position. Um that will at least be

4760
03:04:45,600 --> 03:04:48,319
uh it will be less than that. Now do I

4761
03:04:48,319 --> 03:04:50,800
think it will be even less than that?

4762
03:04:50,800 --> 03:04:52,640
Yes, because I do believe that we will

4763
03:04:52,640 --> 03:04:54,479
be able to have a number that is more

4764
03:04:54,479 --> 03:04:55,840
auditable.

4765
03:04:55,840 --> 03:04:58,800
>> And then the last question is um this

4766
03:04:58,800 --> 03:05:00,479
was there a number on this that you put

4767
03:05:00,479 --> 03:05:02,160
forward that I don't I didn't see the

4768
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:02,640
number.

4769
03:05:02,640 --> 03:05:02,960
>> Um

4770
03:05:02,960 --> 03:05:04,560
>> does it say one? Uh

4771
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:08,080
>> just one you mean meaning one FTE? Yes,

4772
03:05:08,080 --> 03:05:11,439
one FTE for now. Um, and hopefully again

4773
03:05:11,439 --> 03:05:13,439
I'll be able to come to you all with a

4774
03:05:13,439 --> 03:05:16,479
larger long-term plan um that I do need

4775
03:05:16,479 --> 03:05:18,960
to work with the city on because again I

4776
03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:21,200
need to better understand because if

4777
03:05:21,200 --> 03:05:22,880
we're shifting the work over that's less

4778
03:05:22,880 --> 03:05:24,960
of a merger, right? That's more that's

4779
03:05:24,960 --> 03:05:26,399
actually going the opposite direction.

4780
03:05:26,399 --> 03:05:28,399
So I need to better understand again

4781
03:05:28,399 --> 03:05:31,040
what the vision is. Um I admit I don't

4782
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:33,279
know right now. Uh but I have every

4783
03:05:33,279 --> 03:05:35,200
intention of finding out. So

4784
03:05:35,200 --> 03:05:37,279
>> last cost concern and this is a major

4785
03:05:37,279 --> 03:05:38,399
concern obviously.

4786
03:05:38,399 --> 03:05:38,880
>> Yes.

4787
03:05:38,880 --> 03:05:42,160
>> But so much.

4788
03:05:42,160 --> 03:05:44,319
>> So we know that we were paying out in

4789
03:05:44,319 --> 03:05:46,240
excess of a few million dollars of

4790
03:05:46,240 --> 03:05:48,560
benefits that we shouldn't have. So with

4791
03:05:48,560 --> 03:05:50,880
this happening, is there currently a

4792
03:05:50,880 --> 03:05:52,560
backlog where we're that's still

4793
03:05:52,560 --> 03:05:55,760
happening? Are we we assured that we're

4794
03:05:55,760 --> 03:05:57,359
not paying for things that we shouldn't

4795
03:05:57,359 --> 03:05:58,240
be right now?

4796
03:05:58,240 --> 03:05:59,760
>> No, we are not assured of that right

4797
03:05:59,760 --> 03:06:01,600
now. We are in the process of cleaning

4798
03:06:01,600 --> 03:06:03,840
it up. So, why couldn't we just hire

4799
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:05,600
like I mean,

4800
03:06:05,600 --> 03:06:08,240
>> why just one then? I guess

4801
03:06:08,240 --> 03:06:10,160
>> because I don't want to overpromise at

4802
03:06:10,160 --> 03:06:12,880
this point. Um,

4803
03:06:12,880 --> 03:06:15,120
yeah. I I mean, I figure let's start

4804
03:06:15,120 --> 03:06:15,520
with one.

4805
03:06:15,520 --> 03:06:17,520
>> So, they're going to keep most of it.

4806
03:06:17,520 --> 03:06:20,800
>> No, not necessarily. I'm sorry. Again, I

4807
03:06:20,800 --> 03:06:22,640
don't have a long-term plan. We're just

4808
03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:26,479
starting with one uh because that I feel

4809
03:06:26,479 --> 03:06:29,279
is a safe way to go. um is to start with

4810
03:06:29,279 --> 03:06:30,960
one because I know that we will at least

4811
03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:33,920
get that amount back in our schedule 19

4812
03:06:33,920 --> 03:06:35,520
before we were to hire any more than

4813
03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:37,680
that. I want to want to get confirmation

4814
03:06:37,680 --> 03:06:39,920
of what that final schedule 19 number is

4815
03:06:39,920 --> 03:06:42,479
for HR for city hall. Like I wouldn't

4816
03:06:42,479 --> 03:06:45,040
want to just assume that we were going

4817
03:06:45,040 --> 03:06:46,800
to get two salaries worth.

4818
03:06:46,800 --> 03:06:48,960
>> So why not just say four right now and

4819
03:06:48,960 --> 03:06:51,279
then if you only need to hire one, you

4820
03:06:51,279 --> 03:06:53,120
hire one.

4821
03:06:53,120 --> 03:06:55,040
I I mean that is certainly another way

4822
03:06:55,040 --> 03:06:57,840
to go if that would be something y'all

4823
03:06:57,840 --> 03:07:02,560
would be comfortable with. I I

4824
03:07:02,560 --> 03:07:04,960
that's certainly something we could do.

4825
03:07:04,960 --> 03:07:07,359
I would want to again confirm with city

4826
03:07:07,359 --> 03:07:09,040
hall that we would be getting all of

4827
03:07:09,040 --> 03:07:12,160
those salaries back in our schedule 19

4828
03:07:12,160 --> 03:07:15,600
uh before actually hiring for. Uh but at

4829
03:07:15,600 --> 03:07:17,520
least for now I know we need one because

4830
03:07:17,520 --> 03:07:19,279
as the work is even transitioning a

4831
03:07:19,279 --> 03:07:21,359
little bit we do need somebody who has

4832
03:07:21,359 --> 03:07:26,630
that that expertise.

4833
03:07:26,640 --> 03:07:27,200
» I yield.

4834
03:07:27,200 --> 03:07:27,760
>> Thank you.

4835
03:07:27,760 --> 03:07:29,920
>> Uh Miss M. Oliver.

4836
03:07:29,920 --> 03:07:33,359
>> So um when the audit happened with the

4837
03:07:33,359 --> 03:07:35,600
HR I think we were spending about like

4838
03:07:35,600 --> 03:07:39,520
$1.6 $6 million about that and two two

4839
03:07:39,520 --> 03:07:41,600
millions and we had how many people in

4840
03:07:41,600 --> 03:07:45,120
HR when we before we did what we had to

4841
03:07:45,120 --> 03:07:47,120
do to save um cost

4842
03:07:47,120 --> 03:07:48,160
>> I actually came back

4843
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:49,040
>> we actually have a

4844
03:07:49,040 --> 03:07:52,319
>> like I don't know um it's all right I'll

4845
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:54,240
invite up Kathy Marian she'll

4846
03:07:54,240 --> 03:07:56,080
>> while legal team you know she gets to

4847
03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:58,880
the podium but the only concern I have I

4848
03:07:58,880 --> 03:08:00,560
get this whole merging thing but this

4849
03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:02,240
doesn't sound like merging this is sound

4850
03:08:02,240 --> 03:08:04,319
like you're taking our responsibility

4851
03:08:04,319 --> 03:08:08,319
and you pay for it. I'm just We've like

4852
03:08:08,319 --> 03:08:09,840
before I even got on the school

4853
03:08:09,840 --> 03:08:11,840
committee, all I've ever heard in this

4854
03:08:11,840 --> 03:08:14,319
city is that Central is heavy. That

4855
03:08:14,319 --> 03:08:15,920
Central loves to spend money. We're

4856
03:08:15,920 --> 03:08:18,160
throwing money out the way and there's

4857
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:19,760
money three out somewhere and then we

4858
03:08:19,760 --> 03:08:21,760
just keep giving money out. And we

4859
03:08:21,760 --> 03:08:24,640
finally did an audit. We cleaned it up

4860
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:27,760
and we saved so much money by doing what

4861
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:30,880
we had to do to be fiscally responsible.

4862
03:08:30,880 --> 03:08:33,120
And now you're telling us that you want

4863
03:08:33,120 --> 03:08:34,640
us to hire all these people and then

4864
03:08:34,640 --> 03:08:36,160
where the money's coming from.

4865
03:08:36,160 --> 03:08:38,560
>> Well, in all fairness, they didn't say

4866
03:08:38,560 --> 03:08:40,240
that wasn't their directive. It was to

4867
03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:42,640
take the work, but they didn't say hire

4868
03:08:42,640 --> 03:08:43,120
people.

4869
03:08:43,120 --> 03:08:44,080
>> We would have to hire people,

4870
03:08:44,080 --> 03:08:46,080
>> but we have to hire people, right? So,

4871
03:08:46,080 --> 03:08:48,720
we did at least confirm that we need to

4872
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:50,640
hire someone and so we will be taking

4873
03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:51,680
that money back from SC.

4874
03:08:51,680 --> 03:08:53,359
>> So, it's hiring and also training

4875
03:08:53,359 --> 03:08:55,439
because we don't have people to do the

4876
03:08:55,439 --> 03:08:58,399
job and now it's going from paper to

4877
03:08:58,399 --> 03:09:01,120
Yes. Our hope is to be more efficient

4878
03:09:01,120 --> 03:09:02,560
and Exactly. Yes.

4879
03:09:02,560 --> 03:09:04,720
>> So for us to go to paper electronic, we

4880
03:09:04,720 --> 03:09:07,120
have to train individual and that's

4881
03:09:07,120 --> 03:09:09,040
going to take time and then we have to

4882
03:09:09,040 --> 03:09:11,760
make sure we get people that's also able

4883
03:09:11,760 --> 03:09:14,000
to do the job. This is a high a lot of

4884
03:09:14,000 --> 03:09:16,399
responsibility for 3,000 people and

4885
03:09:16,399 --> 03:09:18,960
we're trying to figure out I if we're

4886
03:09:18,960 --> 03:09:20,319
merging, we're merging. We're taking

4887
03:09:20,319 --> 03:09:22,560
responsibility together, not I'm just

4888
03:09:22,560 --> 03:09:23,760
going to keep throwing things to the

4889
03:09:23,760 --> 03:09:25,359
school side and you guys figure it out

4890
03:09:25,359 --> 03:09:28,000
and you pay for the people. We're saving

4891
03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:29,920
them money, but we're putting more cost

4892
03:09:29,920 --> 03:09:32,880
on us. But uh how many do we have?

4893
03:09:32,880 --> 03:09:34,560
>> There were 12 at one point. 12.

4894
03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:36,000
>> 12 and now we're down to eight.

4895
03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:38,160
>> Yes.

4896
03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:40,240
>> It's just very confusing to me how I get

4897
03:09:40,240 --> 03:09:42,160
it. We need we want to merge certain

4898
03:09:42,160 --> 03:09:43,840
department, but we also got to be

4899
03:09:43,840 --> 03:09:45,760
fiscally responsible and you're not

4900
03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:48,399
going to put all the work on us and for

4901
03:09:48,399 --> 03:09:50,399
us to figure it out. I'm just very

4902
03:09:50,399 --> 03:09:51,840
concerned about that that I don't feel

4903
03:09:51,840 --> 03:09:54,399
comfortable voting on this until we have

4904
03:09:54,399 --> 03:09:56,880
a better picture idea of what it's going

4905
03:09:56,880 --> 03:09:58,640
to cost us and what's the consequences

4906
03:09:58,640 --> 03:10:01,359
going to be on our budget.

4907
03:10:01,359 --> 03:10:03,120
>> Miss you.

4908
03:10:03,120 --> 03:10:06,560
>> And my concern is that we take on this

4909
03:10:06,560 --> 03:10:10,000
responsibility by only hiring one one

4910
03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:13,840
person and then like you said this for

4911
03:10:13,840 --> 03:10:17,439
3,000 um staff that's a lot. And the and

4912
03:10:17,439 --> 03:10:19,200
then for you to do your assessment, it

4913
03:10:19,200 --> 03:10:22,080
says we we need more. So how can we say

4914
03:10:22,080 --> 03:10:25,520
we need two to three staff? So like I

4915
03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:28,080
guess when is this happen or did it

4916
03:10:28,080 --> 03:10:29,120
already happen?

4917
03:10:29,120 --> 03:10:31,680
>> No. No. It's for your you to approve.

4918
03:10:31,680 --> 03:10:33,200
>> Okay. So it sounds like

4919
03:10:33,200 --> 03:10:34,720
>> and for us to have this discussion.

4920
03:10:34,720 --> 03:10:38,000
>> Okay. Great. Um so do you have a date

4921
03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:40,880
line like have they proposed a date of

4922
03:10:40,880 --> 03:10:43,040
when this merger? Well, I don't even

4923
03:10:43,040 --> 03:10:45,439
know if it's merge. this added

4924
03:10:45,439 --> 03:10:47,520
responsibility to be sent back to be

4925
03:10:47,520 --> 03:10:48,800
sent to us.

4926
03:10:48,800 --> 03:10:50,479
>> We've already started to do some of the

4927
03:10:50,479 --> 03:10:52,479
work. The um the timeline that city hall

4928
03:10:52,479 --> 03:10:54,240
had set was that all of the health

4929
03:10:54,240 --> 03:10:56,319
insurance would come over to the school

4930
03:10:56,319 --> 03:10:58,560
department by the end of August, which

4931
03:10:58,560 --> 03:11:00,479
has already passed. Um I was also

4932
03:11:00,479 --> 03:11:01,920
informed in August that it was not just

4933
03:11:01,920 --> 03:11:04,319
health, but it's also dental and life.

4934
03:11:04,319 --> 03:11:06,240
So, um there's more work that's coming

4935
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:08,000
our way as well. We've just started the

4936
03:11:08,000 --> 03:11:10,479
trainings to and to get access to the

4937
03:11:10,479 --> 03:11:11,359
portals.

4938
03:11:11,359 --> 03:11:13,040
>> Okay.

4939
03:11:13,040 --> 03:11:15,359
So I'm now

4940
03:11:15,359 --> 03:11:15,840
>> I'll say

4941
03:11:15,840 --> 03:11:17,439
>> I'm confused. What

4942
03:11:17,439 --> 03:11:18,319
>> Mr. Pena?

4943
03:11:18,319 --> 03:11:21,120
>> I'm very very confused. Not not not at

4944
03:11:21,120 --> 03:11:22,479
you. Um

4945
03:11:22,479 --> 03:11:24,319
>> so they just decided to just send it

4946
03:11:24,319 --> 03:11:28,800
over and just say you deal with it. I'm confused now. Now I know that you

4947
03:11:28,800 --> 03:11:30,960
guys are great down there in HR. I know

4948
03:11:30,960 --> 03:11:32,800
a lot of you down there. You're you're

4949
03:11:32,800 --> 03:11:36,000
salt of the earth. But I mean I I'll be

4950
03:11:36,000 --> 03:11:38,160
honest that I I believe there's a ratio

4951
03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:41,200
to how many HR I just call them leazison

4952
03:11:41,200 --> 03:11:42,399
but whatever you want to whatever you

4953
03:11:42,399 --> 03:11:44,080
guys call them. Shouldn't there be like

4954
03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:49,600
maybe one per 200 employees? And that's kind of a lot.

4955
03:11:49,600 --> 03:11:51,359
>> Um when we asked when I went to the

4956
03:11:51,359 --> 03:11:52,640
first meeting in August and was told

4957
03:11:52,640 --> 03:11:54,720
that this work was coming to my office

4958
03:11:54,720 --> 03:11:57,120
um I asked how many people they have at

4959
03:11:57,120 --> 03:11:58,560
city hall doing this work and I was told

4960
03:11:58,560 --> 03:12:01,359
they have four. Um we currently have

4961
03:12:01,359 --> 03:12:03,600
3,3449

4962
03:12:03,600 --> 03:12:05,520
employees in the city in the school

4963
03:12:05,520 --> 03:12:07,920
department. Um I believe that this I

4964
03:12:07,920 --> 03:12:10,399
don't have the number between 8 and 900

4965
03:12:10,399 --> 03:12:13,439
for the city side. So obviously as Dr.

4966
03:12:13,439 --> 03:12:16,000
Tieani said uh one is not enough but if

4967
03:12:16,000 --> 03:12:17,840
we're going to we already have some of

4968
03:12:17,840 --> 03:12:19,279
the work in my office we already have

4969
03:12:19,279 --> 03:12:21,040
people meeting uh with people like

4970
03:12:21,040 --> 03:12:22,640
polymorphic to figure out how we're

4971
03:12:22,640 --> 03:12:24,560
going to digitize this and I could go on

4972
03:12:24,560 --> 03:12:26,800
and on but um we don't have the capacity

4973
03:12:26,800 --> 03:12:29,200
right now to do this well and as you

4974
03:12:29,200 --> 03:12:31,680
know benefits are extremely important to

4975
03:12:31,680 --> 03:12:32,000
people.

4976
03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:34,640
>> So don't don't we see that this is what

4977
03:12:34,640 --> 03:12:39,279
messed up before? Like I'm con I'm very

4978
03:12:39,279 --> 03:12:45,830
confused right now.

4979
03:12:45,840 --> 03:12:47,279
Miss Oliver.

4980
03:12:47,279 --> 03:12:50,479
>> So when this first came to light at a

4981
03:12:50,479 --> 03:12:52,560
meeting that you went to in August

4982
03:12:52,560 --> 03:12:55,439
shouldn't have been brought to us to our

4983
03:12:55,439 --> 03:12:57,200
attention before it was thrown into our

4984
03:12:57,200 --> 03:13:03,279
HR without discussing it with us. Like I I just feel bad for the for the HR

4985
03:13:03,279 --> 03:13:05,359
department because we decreased it to

4986
03:13:05,359 --> 03:13:07,439
save money and now we're putting more

4987
03:13:07,439 --> 03:13:10,640
work on individuals that without even

4988
03:13:10,640 --> 03:13:12,240
consulting with the school committee

4989
03:13:12,240 --> 03:13:14,560
members to even say do we approve or not

4990
03:13:14,560 --> 03:13:17,040
approve what you're throwing at at HR.

4991
03:13:17,040 --> 03:13:19,040
You're telling us we need to save money.

4992
03:13:19,040 --> 03:13:21,279
We let go people change position and

4993
03:13:21,279 --> 03:13:23,680
move them. And now you're telling us

4994
03:13:23,680 --> 03:13:24,960
never mind you're going to have to hire

4995
03:13:24,960 --> 03:13:26,399
four people because you got to do all

4996
03:13:26,399 --> 03:13:28,560
this. But it was not brought to us cuz

4997
03:13:28,560 --> 03:13:31,040
this is this is financial. This is money

4998
03:13:31,040 --> 03:13:32,640
that we have to figure out how we going

4999
03:13:32,640 --> 03:13:35,359
to be able to afford for different

5000
03:13:35,359 --> 03:13:37,680
people in that department to do the job.

5001
03:13:37,680 --> 03:13:40,720
So I'm just very this is when

5002
03:13:40,720 --> 03:13:42,239
communication

5003
03:13:42,239 --> 03:13:45,439
breaks down right because when city does

5004
03:13:45,439 --> 03:13:47,200
certain things and thinks that data

5005
03:13:47,200 --> 03:13:49,840
shouldn't basically

5006
03:13:49,840 --> 03:13:52,720
consult with us to basically say okay

5007
03:13:52,720 --> 03:13:54,239
where's the money where's it coming from

5008
03:13:54,239 --> 03:13:56,800
how are we funding this do we yes we

5009
03:13:56,800 --> 03:13:58,160
want to make sure that we're not paying

5010
03:13:58,160 --> 03:14:00,239
individual health insurance or benefits

5011
03:14:00,239 --> 03:14:03,600
they shouldn't be having but this should

5012
03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:05,359
have been a deep conversation this

5013
03:14:05,359 --> 03:14:07,760
should have been a meeting in August

5014
03:14:07,760 --> 03:14:09,520
and not now to basically say, "Yeah,

5015
03:14:09,520 --> 03:14:11,600
we're going to have to hire somebody." I

5016
03:14:11,600 --> 03:14:13,680
think that we need to throw it back and

5017
03:14:13,680 --> 03:14:15,439
we need to have a conversation cuz this

5018
03:14:15,439 --> 03:14:17,279
is not going to work well. And I don't

5019
03:14:17,279 --> 03:14:19,200
think it's fair to put on director of

5020
03:14:19,200 --> 03:14:22,000
HR, figure it out, do it or no, do it.

5021
03:14:22,000 --> 03:14:23,600
You have no choice. Basically, what they

5022
03:14:23,600 --> 03:14:25,040
did like you have no choice. You got to

5023
03:14:25,040 --> 03:14:31,750
start doing it in August.

5024
03:14:31,760 --> 03:14:34,960
» I say that.

5025
03:14:34,960 --> 03:14:36,399
Superintendent, is this something that

5026
03:14:36,399 --> 03:14:37,920
you would recommend we try to get more

5027
03:14:37,920 --> 03:14:39,840
information and move it to the next

5028
03:14:39,840 --> 03:14:44,160
meeting just given the time?

5029
03:14:44,160 --> 03:14:45,600
>> I'll be honest, I've been struggling

5030
03:14:45,600 --> 03:14:48,960
with this one. Um it it is it is hard to

5031
03:14:48,960 --> 03:14:53,359
manage um because um

5032
03:14:53,359 --> 03:14:55,600
you know, we're trying to be uh more

5033
03:14:55,600 --> 03:14:57,040
collaborative and supportive to city

5034
03:14:57,040 --> 03:14:58,640
hall. On one hand, I think that this is

5035
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:00,239
a compliment. I think it's because we

5036
03:15:00,239 --> 03:15:01,680
are doing great work and we have a lot

5037
03:15:01,680 --> 03:15:04,880
of capacity. um uh not people-wise, but

5038
03:15:04,880 --> 03:15:08,000
we have uh the ability to do um more

5039
03:15:08,000 --> 03:15:11,279
than we have in the past. And so I and I

5040
03:15:11,279 --> 03:15:12,640
think, you know, we're demonstrating

5041
03:15:12,640 --> 03:15:15,200
ourselves to be very competent. And so

5042
03:15:15,200 --> 03:15:17,520
on one hand, I think that's a good

5043
03:15:17,520 --> 03:15:21,920
thing. Um that uh but

5044
03:15:21,920 --> 03:15:25,990
um

5045
03:15:26,000 --> 03:15:28,160
it is a difficult position for me to be

5046
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:30,080
in because I sort of report to

5047
03:15:30,080 --> 03:15:32,319
everybody. Let's be right. I report to

5048
03:15:32,319 --> 03:15:34,560
all of you and I report to city hall

5049
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:36,479
because you know the mayor is the chair

5050
03:15:36,479 --> 03:15:39,439
of our committee. So,

5051
03:15:39,439 --> 03:15:43,359
and this kind of comes back to the the conversation we were having earlier

5052
03:15:43,359 --> 03:15:45,760
about like it's not seven different

5053
03:15:45,760 --> 03:15:47,840
bosses, it's eight actually [laughter]

5054
03:15:47,840 --> 03:15:50,000
and trying to make sure that I am

5055
03:15:50,000 --> 03:15:52,720
managing everything appropriately. Um,

5056
03:15:52,720 --> 03:15:55,279
and so we are just trying to at the end

5057
03:15:55,279 --> 03:15:57,439
of the day, benefits, like you said,

5058
03:15:57,439 --> 03:15:59,040
they're important and we want to get the

5059
03:15:59,040 --> 03:16:00,160
work done and we want to get the work

5060
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:02,800
done right for our employees. Um, and I

5061
03:16:02,800 --> 03:16:04,800
think the way this really started is

5062
03:16:04,800 --> 03:16:09,600
because um, we had it had come to our

5063
03:16:09,600 --> 03:16:11,279
attention or we had known for a while

5064
03:16:11,279 --> 03:16:13,920
that um, there were benefits being paid

5065
03:16:13,920 --> 03:16:15,920
out that shouldn't have been. And we did

5066
03:16:15,920 --> 03:16:18,160
start to take more interest in that

5067
03:16:18,160 --> 03:16:20,800
because we wanted to stop that process.

5068
03:16:20,800 --> 03:16:22,640
So, we started to ask more information,

5069
03:16:22,640 --> 03:16:25,520
ask for data, ask for access to portals,

5070
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:28,160
started to help with the audit. Um, I

5071
03:16:28,160 --> 03:16:30,160
will say that Kimside ended up being

5072
03:16:30,160 --> 03:16:32,960
integral to that process. And so,

5073
03:16:32,960 --> 03:16:35,840
somehow in that whole process of us

5074
03:16:35,840 --> 03:16:38,720
cleaning, being part of the cleanup,

5075
03:16:38,720 --> 03:16:41,760
somehow it this got shifted. And

5076
03:16:41,760 --> 03:16:44,160
honestly, it was news to all of us. Um,

5077
03:16:44,160 --> 03:16:45,600
none of us were part of the meeting

5078
03:16:45,600 --> 03:16:49,040
where that happened. Um, so I I don't I

5079
03:16:49,040 --> 03:16:50,640
don't really know. Just one last

5080
03:16:50,640 --> 03:16:53,040
question. So the directive came on which

5081
03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:53,920
date was it?

5082
03:16:53,920 --> 03:16:55,840
>> It wasn't really a directive as much as

5083
03:16:55,840 --> 03:16:57,520
it was like

5084
03:16:57,520 --> 03:16:58,960
>> do it. Okay.

5085
03:16:58,960 --> 03:16:59,520
>> Here you go.

5086
03:16:59,520 --> 03:17:02,080
>> I was being gaslighted. [laughter]

5087
03:17:02,080 --> 03:17:02,640
>> Yeah.

5088
03:17:02,640 --> 03:17:06,239
>> So to take it kind of off of your

5089
03:17:06,239 --> 03:17:07,600
>> I mean that was it because I'm just

5090
03:17:07,600 --> 03:17:08,880
looking at the time and I know we have

5091
03:17:08,880 --> 03:17:11,040
our attorney here. Um is it something

5092
03:17:11,040 --> 03:17:14,720
that you need us or if we were to call a

5093
03:17:14,720 --> 03:17:17,200
special meeting just to discuss this

5094
03:17:17,200 --> 03:17:19,680
once we have more information? Um I mean

5095
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:21,520
is it an outside comp you?

5096
03:17:21,520 --> 03:17:23,359
>> So I would like to be supportive to the

5097
03:17:23,359 --> 03:17:25,120
HR department. So I guess we have two

5098
03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:26,800
options here. We have the option of

5099
03:17:26,800 --> 03:17:29,680
moving forward with one uh benefits

5100
03:17:29,680 --> 03:17:32,160
coordinator and and trying to start to

5101
03:17:32,160 --> 03:17:35,040
transition this work over or so I think

5102
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:37,200
that would be option one or option two

5103
03:17:37,200 --> 03:17:40,479
would be to stop um try to push the work

5104
03:17:40,479 --> 03:17:42,080
back and say we're going to pause. We

5105
03:17:42,080 --> 03:17:43,600
can't take any of this for an hour and a

5106
03:17:43,600 --> 03:17:45,600
longer conversation needs to happen.

5107
03:17:45,600 --> 03:17:47,279
That's what I believe to be the two

5108
03:17:47,279 --> 03:17:48,800
options are. If there's a third option

5109
03:17:48,800 --> 03:17:50,479
that I'm missing, please feel free to

5110
03:17:50,479 --> 03:17:52,080
let me know. But I would want to hear

5111
03:17:52,080 --> 03:17:54,479
from um Dr. Moran.

5112
03:17:54,479 --> 03:17:56,880
>> So Dr. Moran, before you answer, so you

5113
03:17:56,880 --> 03:17:58,720
mentioned training. What is involved

5114
03:17:58,720 --> 03:18:03,359
with the training? Like is it is it um

5115
03:18:03,359 --> 03:18:05,279
extensive training or is it something

5116
03:18:05,279 --> 03:18:07,359
that we can bring in an outside company

5117
03:18:07,359 --> 03:18:10,640
to help you uh temporarily?

5118
03:18:10,640 --> 03:18:12,160
Well, when it comes to just the Blue

5119
03:18:12,160 --> 03:18:13,600
Cross and Harvard for the health

5120
03:18:13,600 --> 03:18:15,520
insurance, we've been working with Blue

5121
03:18:15,520 --> 03:18:18,880
Cross with their um representative to

5122
03:18:18,880 --> 03:18:21,120
get ourselves acclimated to just the

5123
03:18:21,120 --> 03:18:23,279
portal itself. When it comes to actually

5124
03:18:23,279 --> 03:18:25,760
getting in and um starting the process

5125
03:18:25,760 --> 03:18:28,000
for new employees, ending the process

5126
03:18:28,000 --> 03:18:30,399
when people leave, changing things when

5127
03:18:30,399 --> 03:18:32,960
people have additions to their families.

5128
03:18:32,960 --> 03:18:35,279
Those are all details that we need to be

5129
03:18:35,279 --> 03:18:37,359
trained on. Those are the the details.

5130
03:18:37,359 --> 03:18:39,600
Um, in addition to that, as I said,

5131
03:18:39,600 --> 03:18:41,840
there's also, uh, dental and life that

5132
03:18:41,840 --> 03:18:44,479
we haven't begun to scratch the surface

5133
03:18:44,479 --> 03:18:47,279
yet. So, um, in in terms of bringing in

5134
03:18:47,279 --> 03:18:49,200
an outside agency, I think it's really

5135
03:18:49,200 --> 03:18:51,600
about if since I was hired here in the

5136
03:18:51,600 --> 03:18:54,319
early 2000s, health insurance was always

5137
03:18:54,319 --> 03:18:56,960
handled by city hall. So, we need to

5138
03:18:56,960 --> 03:18:59,279
build our capacity by working with city

5139
03:18:59,279 --> 03:19:01,040
hall that's been doing it for decades,

5140
03:19:01,040 --> 03:19:03,359
so we can get ourselves up to speed. Um,

5141
03:19:03,359 --> 03:19:04,720
but that's just the health insurance

5142
03:19:04,720 --> 03:19:07,279
piece. the dental and life are also um

5143
03:19:07,279 --> 03:19:08,160
out there.

5144
03:19:08,160 --> 03:19:09,600
>> So, I mean, this is something they're

5145
03:19:09,600 --> 03:19:12,000
already doing now, but by the time we

5146
03:19:12,000 --> 03:19:15,200
get on board and um get the training,

5147
03:19:15,200 --> 03:19:17,680
it's just it's it's it's

5148
03:19:17,680 --> 03:19:22,399
timesensitive. So, I would say let them

5149
03:19:22,399 --> 03:19:25,840
continue to help us until we can

5150
03:19:25,840 --> 03:19:27,680
identify

5151
03:19:27,680 --> 03:19:29,439
funds for those positions that you're

5152
03:19:29,439 --> 03:19:32,319
going to need. um

5153
03:19:32,319 --> 03:19:34,239
just yeah just take the money but more

5154
03:19:34,239 --> 03:19:38,239
than one person you know she's she's going to need more than one

5155
03:19:38,239 --> 03:19:39,760
employee to be doing that where they

5156
03:19:39,760 --> 03:19:41,200
have four

5157
03:19:41,200 --> 03:19:43,279
>> um but okay that

5158
03:19:43,279 --> 03:19:45,600
>> I'll say

5159
03:19:45,600 --> 03:19:48,960
>> um to take it off your plate um please

5160
03:19:48,960 --> 03:19:51,120
answer truthfully

5161
03:19:51,120 --> 03:19:54,720
how many employees do you think you need

5162
03:19:54,720 --> 03:19:58,080
to be able to do this uh proficiently

5163
03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:00,239
because I will tell you that as somebody

5164
03:20:00,239 --> 03:20:04,080
that is someone with disabilities that

5165
03:20:04,080 --> 03:20:07,760
um if you do not correctly input the

5166
03:20:07,760 --> 03:20:10,080
insurance then you start getting phone

5167
03:20:10,080 --> 03:20:12,239
calls at the house a lot.

5168
03:20:12,239 --> 03:20:12,720
>> Mhm.

5169
03:20:12,720 --> 03:20:14,800
>> And then it becomes a stressful

5170
03:20:14,800 --> 03:20:17,359
situation for the employee and there's a

5171
03:20:17,359 --> 03:20:19,200
lot of trust that's lost everything

5172
03:20:19,200 --> 03:20:22,160
else. So please answer as honestly as

5173
03:20:22,160 --> 03:20:24,479
you possibly can.

5174
03:20:24,479 --> 03:20:26,560
>> I have no idea. We haven't started this

5175
03:20:26,560 --> 03:20:28,239
process yet. All I know is that city

5176
03:20:28,239 --> 03:20:30,319
hall has four employees that are doing

5177
03:20:30,319 --> 03:20:33,520
this work for the school department and

5178
03:20:33,520 --> 03:20:35,680
city side for about 4,000 employees if

5179
03:20:35,680 --> 03:20:39,680
we're taking um 3/4s of that. Um and

5180
03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:41,279
>> and they weren't doing it proficiently.

5181
03:20:41,279 --> 03:20:41,920
Correct.

5182
03:20:41,920 --> 03:20:43,760
>> I I there are always glitches. I mean

5183
03:20:43,760 --> 03:20:45,920
there were times when people left um and

5184
03:20:45,920 --> 03:20:47,840
their insurance wasn't turned off, but

5185
03:20:47,840 --> 03:20:49,200
as you just mentioned, whenever there's

5186
03:20:49,200 --> 03:20:51,760
a change in um if a benefits change,

5187
03:20:51,760 --> 03:20:53,520
there'll be open enrollment. you know,

5188
03:20:53,520 --> 03:20:55,439
when your baby turns 26 out of nowhere

5189
03:20:55,439 --> 03:20:57,200
and she needs to get her own insurance.

5190
03:20:57,200 --> 03:20:59,359
All of these things, these life events,

5191
03:20:59,359 --> 03:21:02,399
they trigger something and they they're very timesensitive.

5192
03:21:02,399 --> 03:21:04,640
>> And so I I would just say um I think

5193
03:21:04,640 --> 03:21:08,239
there's an option C and and I would move

5194
03:21:08,239 --> 03:21:12,720
to amend this item to add two additional

5195
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:16,080
um FTE to it in case so that you don't

5196
03:21:16,080 --> 03:21:17,279
have to come back if it's something that

5197
03:21:17,279 --> 03:21:19,680
you need to hire right away. So I would

5198
03:21:19,680 --> 03:21:21,520
move to amend it to three rather than

5199
03:21:21,520 --> 03:21:23,680
just one.

5200
03:21:23,680 --> 03:21:25,279
That's in the form of a motion.

5201
03:21:25,279 --> 03:21:26,319
>> That was

5202
03:21:26,319 --> 03:21:27,439
>> uh is there a second?

5203
03:21:27,439 --> 03:21:28,319
>> Second.

5204
03:21:28,319 --> 03:21:29,840
>> Motion has been properly made and

5205
03:21:29,840 --> 03:21:31,040
second.

5206
03:21:31,040 --> 03:21:33,840
>> Uh Miss Cinte. Miss Oliver.

5207
03:21:33,840 --> 03:21:35,040
>> No.

5208
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:37,439
>> Mr. Rodriguez.

5209
03:21:37,439 --> 03:21:38,399
>> Nope.

5210
03:21:38,399 --> 03:21:40,160
>> Miss Azac?

5211
03:21:40,160 --> 03:21:40,960
>> Yes.

5212
03:21:40,960 --> 03:21:41,760
>> Mr. Pina?

5213
03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:42,399
>> Yes.

5214
03:21:42,399 --> 03:21:44,720
>> Mr. Sullivan?

5215
03:21:44,720 --> 03:21:45,520
>> Yes.

5216
03:21:45,520 --> 03:21:48,960
>> I'm a yes as well. Two

5217
03:21:48,960 --> 03:21:51,279
four. It carries. So, I make a motion to

5218
03:21:51,279 --> 03:21:56,239
now pass that um item D E.

5219
03:21:56,239 --> 03:21:58,399
>> Wait, D, you're right. Sorry, man.

5220
03:21:58,399 --> 03:22:00,319
>> Oh, see, you got me there, man.

5221
03:22:00,319 --> 03:22:03,600
>> I make a motion to advance

5222
03:22:03,600 --> 03:22:07,840
>> item D uh approval to hire three um

5223
03:22:07,840 --> 03:22:11,200
benefit coordinator position.

5224
03:22:11,200 --> 03:22:15,279
>> Motion has been made. Is there a second?

5225
03:22:15,279 --> 03:22:19,520
>> Clarification. Um all same salary.

5226
03:22:19,520 --> 03:22:20,960
So, I mean,

5227
03:22:20,960 --> 03:22:22,880
>> there's a range. We'll post a range and

5228
03:22:22,880 --> 03:22:25,120
I think it depends on expertise or

5229
03:22:25,120 --> 03:22:27,120
experience. Yeah. A number of factors.

5230
03:22:27,120 --> 03:22:29,279
>> Okay. I'll second it. Yep. I'll second

5231
03:22:29,279 --> 03:22:29,439
it

5232
03:22:29,439 --> 03:22:31,920
>> on the motion. Do you want to add that

5233
03:22:31,920 --> 03:22:34,000
the funding source has to come from the

5234
03:22:34,000 --> 03:22:34,960
schedule 19?

5235
03:22:34,960 --> 03:22:35,760
>> Yeah.

5236
03:22:35,760 --> 03:22:36,880
>> Granted that

5237
03:22:36,880 --> 03:22:38,399
>> Yeah, that that's what she she already

5238
03:22:38,399 --> 03:22:40,239
identified that though.

5239
03:22:40,239 --> 03:22:40,640
>> Yeah,

5240
03:22:40,640 --> 03:22:42,880
>> I know. But I'm just saying cuz we we

5241
03:22:42,880 --> 03:22:44,560
fight for money a lot. We fight over

5242
03:22:44,560 --> 03:22:46,880
money a lot. Contingent upon

5243
03:22:46,880 --> 03:22:48,239
>> contingent upon

5244
03:22:48,239 --> 03:22:50,160
>> as long as we put it on the record.

5245
03:22:50,160 --> 03:22:53,520
>> Perfect. Um, so there's a motion on the

5246
03:22:53,520 --> 03:22:56,080
floor. Second. Misso,

5247
03:22:56,080 --> 03:22:56,640
>> yes.

5248
03:22:56,640 --> 03:22:57,600
>> Miss Oliver,

5249
03:22:57,600 --> 03:22:58,319
>> no.

5250
03:22:58,319 --> 03:22:59,439
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

5251
03:22:59,439 --> 03:22:59,920
>> no.

5252
03:22:59,920 --> 03:23:00,800
>> Miss Azac,

5253
03:23:00,800 --> 03:23:01,279
>> yes.

5254
03:23:01,279 --> 03:23:02,080
>> Mr. Pina,

5255
03:23:02,080 --> 03:23:02,479
>> yes.

5256
03:23:02,479 --> 03:23:04,720
>> Mr. Sullivan,

5257
03:23:04,720 --> 03:23:05,200
>> yes.

5258
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:09,680
>> I'm a yes. As well carries. Um, item E.

5259
03:23:09,680 --> 03:23:10,560
Discussion potential.

5260
03:23:10,560 --> 03:23:12,239
>> Thank you, Dr. Maran.

5261
03:23:12,239 --> 03:23:15,040
election of official voting delegate of

5262
03:23:15,040 --> 03:23:18,080
the mass mask mass annual business

5263
03:23:18,080 --> 03:23:21,600
meeting November 4th to the 6, 2026. Uh

5264
03:23:21,600 --> 03:23:23,600
as you guys know, every year when mask

5265
03:23:23,600 --> 03:23:26,880
does um their conference, we elect a

5266
03:23:26,880 --> 03:23:29,520
member uh among those that are going to

5267
03:23:29,520 --> 03:23:32,080
be our repres representative of this

5268
03:23:32,080 --> 03:23:34,560
committee uh to vote on our behalf and

5269
03:23:34,560 --> 03:23:37,520
we also elect an alternative member. Uh

5270
03:23:37,520 --> 03:23:39,680
I'm not sure who is going. I won't be

5271
03:23:39,680 --> 03:23:42,800
going this year. So if we can have just

5272
03:23:42,800 --> 03:23:44,560
a

5273
03:23:44,560 --> 03:23:46,960
uh hands up for those that are going so

5274
03:23:46,960 --> 03:23:49,439
the rest of the committee knows. So we

5275
03:23:49,439 --> 03:23:52,640
got Mr. Pina, Miss AAC.

5276
03:23:52,640 --> 03:23:54,960
So almost everybody but myself and Mr.

5277
03:23:54,960 --> 03:23:55,840
Sullivan are you going?

5278
03:23:55,840 --> 03:23:57,359
>> I think it's that front.

5279
03:23:57,359 --> 03:24:00,080
>> I did but

5280
03:24:00,080 --> 03:24:01,760
I'm assuming that's a no.

5281
03:24:01,760 --> 03:24:04,880
>> Um is anybody willing to be the

5282
03:24:04,880 --> 03:24:05,520
delegate?

5283
03:24:05,520 --> 03:24:07,279
>> I nominate Joyce Azac.

5284
03:24:07,279 --> 03:24:09,600
>> I thank you for the nomination. And I

5285
03:24:09,600 --> 03:24:11,840
just I need to step away. Nope. Thank

5286
03:24:11,840 --> 03:24:12,880
you.

5287
03:24:12,880 --> 03:24:15,520
>> Thank you for the nomination. Um but I I

5288
03:24:15,520 --> 03:24:17,600
will not be attending the delegate part.

5289
03:24:17,600 --> 03:24:18,399
So I do have to leave

5290
03:24:18,399 --> 03:24:19,840
>> accept your nomination.

5291
03:24:19,840 --> 03:24:21,920
>> No, it's for that Friday. So I have to

5292
03:24:21,920 --> 03:24:22,800
leave and come back.

5293
03:24:22,800 --> 03:24:24,479
>> Any other members that would like to be

5294
03:24:24,479 --> 03:24:26,319
the delegate or you guys want to

5295
03:24:26,319 --> 03:24:28,160
nominate any other members?

5296
03:24:28,160 --> 03:24:31,600
>> Stephen. [laughter]

5297
03:24:31,600 --> 03:24:32,319
>> Wow.

5298
03:24:32,319 --> 03:24:34,319
>> I nominate

5299
03:24:34,319 --> 03:24:36,880
Tony Rodriguez.

5300
03:24:36,880 --> 03:24:39,279
>> Tony, do you accept that nomination?

5301
03:24:39,279 --> 03:24:40,080
You don't have to accept.

5302
03:24:40,080 --> 03:24:41,279
>> Might as well. Nobody else is going to

5303
03:24:41,279 --> 03:24:41,600
stand.

5304
03:24:41,600 --> 03:24:43,279
>> All right. So, Tony Rodriguez has been

5305
03:24:43,279 --> 03:24:45,359
nominated as our delegate. Can we have

5306
03:24:45,359 --> 03:24:47,279
an alter alternate?

5307
03:24:47,279 --> 03:24:49,120
>> I'll [clears throat] be the backup.

5308
03:24:49,120 --> 03:24:52,160
>> Everybody in agreement.

5309
03:24:52,160 --> 03:24:53,520
>> Do we have to vote on it or No.

5310
03:24:53,520 --> 03:24:54,239
>> Yeah, you have to vote on it.

5311
03:24:54,239 --> 03:24:55,120
>> Yeah, we vote on it.

5312
03:24:55,120 --> 03:24:55,680
>> Okay.

5313
03:24:55,680 --> 03:24:59,040
>> So, we have uh Mr. Rodriguez as our

5314
03:24:59,040 --> 03:25:01,200
delegate and Mrs.

5315
03:25:01,200 --> 03:25:05,520
>> Miss Cinteo as our um secondary. Um,

5316
03:25:05,520 --> 03:25:06,800
I'll take a motion to

5317
03:25:06,800 --> 03:25:09,439
>> make a motion to pass the Mr. Rodriguez

5318
03:25:09,439 --> 03:25:12,160
as the primary and Miss Contento as the

5319
03:25:12,160 --> 03:25:14,880
alternate for the mask mass uh

5320
03:25:14,880 --> 03:25:16,080
delegation.

5321
03:25:16,080 --> 03:25:17,840
>> Is there a second?

5322
03:25:17,840 --> 03:25:18,479
>> Second.

5323
03:25:18,479 --> 03:25:20,239
>> Motion has been properly made in second.

5324
03:25:20,239 --> 03:25:21,200
Miss Cento,

5325
03:25:21,200 --> 03:25:21,760
>> yes.

5326
03:25:21,760 --> 03:25:22,640
>> Miss Oliver,

5327
03:25:22,640 --> 03:25:23,359
>> yes.

5328
03:25:23,359 --> 03:25:24,880
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

5329
03:25:24,880 --> 03:25:25,680
>> Miss Azac,

5330
03:25:25,680 --> 03:25:26,000
>> yes.

5331
03:25:26,000 --> 03:25:26,720
>> Mr. Pina,

5332
03:25:26,720 --> 03:25:27,600
>> yeah.

5333
03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:29,840
>> Mr. Sullivan,

5334
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:30,560
>> yes.

5335
03:25:30,560 --> 03:25:32,080
>> I'm a yes as well passes.

5336
03:25:32,080 --> 03:25:33,680
Congratulations.

5337
03:25:33,680 --> 03:25:36,800
Um, agenda item

5338
03:25:36,800 --> 03:25:39,120
seven, school school safety and

5339
03:25:39,120 --> 03:25:41,359
security. Our police layers on.

5340
03:25:41,359 --> 03:25:43,359
>> All right, let be quick about this. It's

5341
03:25:43,359 --> 03:25:45,680
getting late.

5342
03:25:45,680 --> 03:25:48,160
Our last two home night games were Oh,

5343
03:25:48,160 --> 03:25:50,399
good evening everyone. Sorry. Our last

5344
03:25:50,399 --> 03:25:52,160
two home night games went off without

5345
03:25:52,160 --> 03:25:54,960
any significant issues. We appreciate

5346
03:25:54,960 --> 03:25:56,960
the continued cooper Well, what

5347
03:25:56,960 --> 03:25:59,520
happened? uh cooperation of the students

5348
03:25:59,520 --> 03:26:01,040
and the families and the fans and

5349
03:26:01,040 --> 03:26:02,560
helping with making the event safe and

5350
03:26:02,560 --> 03:26:04,560
successful.

5351
03:26:04,560 --> 03:26:06,399
We continue to work collaboration with

5352
03:26:06,399 --> 03:26:08,880
the school uh department in various ways

5353
03:26:08,880 --> 03:26:10,800
accommodating their needs and promote

5354
03:26:10,800 --> 03:26:12,560
safety and respect among our

5355
03:26:12,560 --> 03:26:14,800
constituents ensuring different uh

5356
03:26:14,800 --> 03:26:17,760
different perspective and concerns uh

5357
03:26:17,760 --> 03:26:21,760
are heard with and valued. Excuse me.

5358
03:26:21,760 --> 03:26:23,200
We're also conducting internal

5359
03:26:23,200 --> 03:26:26,469
interview.

5360
03:26:26,479 --> 03:26:28,880
We're looking at what has gone well,

5361
03:26:28,880 --> 03:26:30,960
identifying areas of improvement. It may

5362
03:26:30,960 --> 03:26:32,560
be appropriate reviewing these goals and

5363
03:26:32,560 --> 03:26:34,560
previous established

5364
03:26:34,560 --> 03:26:36,720
determine whether any uh new goals

5365
03:26:36,720 --> 03:26:39,359
should be considered considering moving

5366
03:26:39,359 --> 03:26:41,120
forward.

5367
03:26:41,120 --> 03:26:43,439
Any questions?

5368
03:26:43,439 --> 03:26:45,840
>> Miss Oliver,

5369
03:26:45,840 --> 03:26:48,080
>> thank you very much for your report. I

5370
03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:50,640
think the last two home games has been

5371
03:26:50,640 --> 03:26:53,920
great. Um Don, my only concern is that I

5372
03:26:53,920 --> 03:26:56,479
noticed last um game. I know it was

5373
03:26:56,479 --> 03:26:57,840
raining. A lot of people didn't want to

5374
03:26:57,840 --> 03:27:00,800
go sit in the bleachers. Um I think that

5375
03:27:00,800 --> 03:27:03,359
if we can just help the coaches and just

5376
03:27:03,359 --> 03:27:06,880
move individuals from defense. I I saw a

5377
03:27:06,880 --> 03:27:09,439
lot of um athletic director trying to

5378
03:27:09,439 --> 03:27:11,279
move um students and go to the

5379
03:27:11,279 --> 03:27:13,439
bleachers. Um if we can get more help

5380
03:27:13,439 --> 03:27:15,439
with that cuz I did see a lot of it more

5381
03:27:15,439 --> 03:27:18,960
kids um by the fence instead of sitting

5382
03:27:18,960 --> 03:27:21,600
down. But I think the overall I think

5383
03:27:21,600 --> 03:27:23,680
that like the you know the blackout day

5384
03:27:23,680 --> 03:27:25,279
they had the first home game and the

5385
03:27:25,279 --> 03:27:27,120
last game was like the pink for breast

5386
03:27:27,120 --> 03:27:30,000
cancer a war awareness and I think that

5387
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:32,160
it was a really good home game and I and

5388
03:27:32,160 --> 03:27:33,600
I do appreciate all the hard work

5389
03:27:33,600 --> 03:27:35,520
everybody's been doing. Thank you.

5390
03:27:35,520 --> 03:27:36,560
>> Thank you

5391
03:27:36,560 --> 03:27:37,840
>> Mr. Pina.

5392
03:27:37,840 --> 03:27:40,720
>> Yeah. So uh I have a few questions. The

5393
03:27:40,720 --> 03:27:43,520
first one is um what is your thought on

5394
03:27:43,520 --> 03:27:47,600
the um illumination of the non non-field

5395
03:27:47,600 --> 03:27:50,319
areas? Are they illuminated enough for

5396
03:27:50,319 --> 03:27:52,640
safety purposes?

5397
03:27:52,640 --> 03:27:55,200
My my concern is over by the uh

5398
03:27:55,200 --> 03:27:57,200
underneath the scoreboard and where that

5399
03:27:57,200 --> 03:27:59,200
the snack shack or I forget what we call

5400
03:27:59,200 --> 03:28:01,680
it, but it's not really lit up. Uh I've

5401
03:28:01,680 --> 03:28:04,000
been to obviously the other um high

5402
03:28:04,000 --> 03:28:06,880
schools in the area and theirs is pretty

5403
03:28:06,880 --> 03:28:09,120
lit up. Um

5404
03:28:09,120 --> 03:28:10,800
I don't know whether it would help

5405
03:28:10,800 --> 03:28:14,160
safety wise. Um

5406
03:28:14,160 --> 03:28:15,520
thoughts?

5407
03:28:15,520 --> 03:28:18,399
>> Yeah, lights are great. That'd be great.

5408
03:28:18,399 --> 03:28:22,239
Lighting, visible, safety.

5409
03:28:22,239 --> 03:28:23,760
>> Awesome.

5410
03:28:23,760 --> 03:28:26,160
>> And the uh second question is that

5411
03:28:26,160 --> 03:28:28,399
pertaining to the football um in all

5412
03:28:28,399 --> 03:28:32,479
sports, but um I noticed that uh there

5413
03:28:32,479 --> 03:28:36,880
were no um Brockton police um city

5414
03:28:36,880 --> 03:28:42,800
police at our at the games and there was no incidences which as you

5415
03:28:42,800 --> 03:28:45,279
reported. So that would be a a pretty

5416
03:28:45,279 --> 03:28:50,239
big savings. uh to us. Um was it

5417
03:28:50,239 --> 03:28:51,760
beneficial?

5418
03:28:51,760 --> 03:28:54,800
Uh were you guys able to uh conduct the

5419
03:28:54,800 --> 03:28:57,760
safety measures everything without uh

5420
03:28:57,760 --> 03:28:59,520
concern?

5421
03:28:59,520 --> 03:29:03,600
>> There's 12 of us there. We actually had

5422
03:29:03,600 --> 03:29:05,520
uh

5423
03:29:05,520 --> 03:29:09,439
Captain Captain two captains.

5424
03:29:09,439 --> 03:29:11,840
We had good vision.

5425
03:29:11,840 --> 03:29:14,960
>> Awesome. And then um I I might have

5426
03:29:14,960 --> 03:29:16,720
missed it, but did you mention anything

5427
03:29:16,720 --> 03:29:20,160
about any recent um

5428
03:29:20,160 --> 03:29:22,319
criminal activity around any of the

5429
03:29:22,319 --> 03:29:25,359
schools pertaining to either uh the

5430
03:29:25,359 --> 03:29:28,560
transate population or any incidences

5431
03:29:28,560 --> 03:29:31,600
involving students?

5432
03:29:31,600 --> 03:29:34,630
>> Um

5433
03:29:34,640 --> 03:29:36,880
say that again. I'm sorry. So the

5434
03:29:36,880 --> 03:29:40,239
homeless population that uh takes over

5435
03:29:40,239 --> 03:29:43,600
the PL area especially in the Arnown as

5436
03:29:43,600 --> 03:29:46,479
well. Um in the past we'd had issues

5437
03:29:46,479 --> 03:29:49,520
with that with uh them leaving some

5438
03:29:49,520 --> 03:29:52,960
gifts behind. Uh has that has there been

5439
03:29:52,960 --> 03:29:56,560
any uh additional issues?

5440
03:29:56,560 --> 03:30:01,279
>> Uh not that I know of. But if I can

5441
03:30:01,279 --> 03:30:03,279
reach out to

5442
03:30:03,279 --> 03:30:06,560
get get that information for you to

5443
03:30:06,560 --> 03:30:08,399
>> Awesome. And you said you said we now

5444
03:30:08,399 --> 03:30:15,670
are at 12 on duty.

5445
03:30:15,680 --> 03:30:17,200
» Or was that some from the

5446
03:30:17,200 --> 03:30:19,200
>> total? Yeah.

5447
03:30:19,200 --> 03:30:22,880
>> Awesome. And I'll just say um one kudos

5448
03:30:22,880 --> 03:30:24,880
or good job or whatever you guys want to

5449
03:30:24,880 --> 03:30:26,800
call it. Pat on the back. How's that?

5450
03:30:26,800 --> 03:30:29,600
Um, so I've noticed that you have you

5451
03:30:29,600 --> 03:30:31,439
guys have randomly gone to the

5452
03:30:31,439 --> 03:30:34,239
elementary schools and not just driving

5453
03:30:34,239 --> 03:30:36,000
by, but actually going with your lights

5454
03:30:36,000 --> 03:30:39,040
on during the drop off and pickup, which

5455
03:30:39,040 --> 03:30:43,600
has helped immensely with the I I'll say

5456
03:30:43,600 --> 03:30:46,880
quadruple parking uh especially at the

5457
03:30:46,880 --> 03:30:49,200
schools that I've gone and and watched.

5458
03:30:49,200 --> 03:30:52,479
Um, so I I would thank uh who whoever is

5459
03:30:52,479 --> 03:30:55,520
in charge of that process and and as as

5460
03:30:55,520 --> 03:30:58,560
well as the the school police for being

5461
03:30:58,560 --> 03:31:03,200
as um um on the ball as as you guys

5462
03:31:03,200 --> 03:31:06,000
>> I'll call you back on this.

5463
03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:07,040
>> Mr. Sullivan,

5464
03:31:07,040 --> 03:31:10,239
>> I call you back.

5465
03:31:10,239 --> 03:31:13,920
I I think the one of the reason maybe we

5466
03:31:13,920 --> 03:31:16,000
can find out the lights issue by the

5467
03:31:16,000 --> 03:31:19,840
shed um the concession stand is because

5468
03:31:19,840 --> 03:31:21,840
there's houses right there and we can't

5469
03:31:21,840 --> 03:31:23,760
have so much bright light just facing

5470
03:31:23,760 --> 03:31:26,319
the the the houses over there. I wonder

5471
03:31:26,319 --> 03:31:27,920
I'm just trying to figure out cuz it is

5472
03:31:27,920 --> 03:31:30,239
very dark in that area when I try to go

5473
03:31:30,239 --> 03:31:32,560
get food and it's very very dark in that

5474
03:31:32,560 --> 03:31:33,600
area.

5475
03:31:33,600 --> 03:31:34,880
>> I don't know if it's because of house

5476
03:31:34,880 --> 03:31:38,160
that like fenced our stadium. We'll talk

5477
03:31:38,160 --> 03:31:39,040
to Ken.

5478
03:31:39,040 --> 03:31:40,560
>> Yeah. Well, and if you face them this

5479
03:31:40,560 --> 03:31:42,479
towards the field, it's not an issue.

5480
03:31:42,479 --> 03:31:44,640
But I would also add that the the band

5481
03:31:44,640 --> 03:31:45,920
boosters

5482
03:31:45,920 --> 03:31:47,920
>> u and this this is very dark.

5483
03:31:47,920 --> 03:31:49,600
>> This is a facilities thing. They're

5484
03:31:49,600 --> 03:31:51,520
sitting out there with uh

5485
03:31:51,520 --> 03:31:54,000
>> little tiny lanterns.

5486
03:31:54,000 --> 03:31:56,319
It's I mean we can we can run a line out

5487
03:31:56,319 --> 03:31:58,000
there and put a light up there, but

5488
03:31:58,000 --> 03:31:59,840
>> and I think also facilities issue

5489
03:31:59,840 --> 03:32:02,319
>> the light under the bleachers too when

5490
03:32:02,319 --> 03:32:05,840
um the band um they go under it to like

5491
03:32:05,840 --> 03:32:07,600
have their snacks and drinks. It's very

5492
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:10,399
dark there and the safety um issues too,

5493
03:32:10,399 --> 03:32:12,160
especially with the rain. I mean, if we

5494
03:32:12,160 --> 03:32:13,520
can figure out the lights under there

5495
03:32:13,520 --> 03:32:15,680
will be greatly appreciated just for

5496
03:32:15,680 --> 03:32:17,040
students when they walk in to go to the

5497
03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:19,520
bathroom is very dark under there. Um,

5498
03:32:19,520 --> 03:32:22,000
another thing that I want to find out if

5499
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:24,399
it's true or not, if there's already

5500
03:32:24,399 --> 03:32:27,040
encampment like a encampment around here

5501
03:32:27,040 --> 03:32:28,880
at the school, like where the forest

5502
03:32:28,880 --> 03:32:32,479
area is, or is there any individuals

5503
03:32:32,479 --> 03:32:34,800
basically housing out there like the

5504
03:32:34,800 --> 03:32:36,399
homeless people? Because I know there

5505
03:32:36,399 --> 03:32:37,680
are some students that have said they

5506
03:32:37,680 --> 03:32:39,279
have walked that way and there are

5507
03:32:39,279 --> 03:32:41,760
individual in the woods living there.

5508
03:32:41,760 --> 03:32:43,680
So, I want to make sure that we're

5509
03:32:43,680 --> 03:32:45,520
trying to figure out if there is and how

5510
03:32:45,520 --> 03:32:47,279
we basically make sure our students when

5511
03:32:47,279 --> 03:32:49,200
they walk through there, they're safe at

5512
03:32:49,200 --> 03:32:51,760
all time if we can get an idea what if

5513
03:32:51,760 --> 03:32:53,840
it's really happening or not.

5514
03:32:53,840 --> 03:32:56,080
>> Thank you,

5515
03:32:56,080 --> 03:32:57,200
>> Miss Cinte.

5516
03:32:57,200 --> 03:32:58,800
>> Hi.

5517
03:32:58,800 --> 03:33:02,399
>> Uh when we was there, uh we did talk

5518
03:33:02,399 --> 03:33:06,000
about traffic cuz that is on a main busy

5519
03:33:06,000 --> 03:33:06,800
road.

5520
03:33:06,800 --> 03:33:09,279
>> Yes. So what they what the principal did

5521
03:33:09,279 --> 03:33:11,680
share was that when there's a present

5522
03:33:11,680 --> 03:33:14,080
when one of your um somebody from your

5523
03:33:14,080 --> 03:33:17,279
team or you are there that things tend

5524
03:33:17,279 --> 03:33:19,359
to run smoothly

5525
03:33:19,359 --> 03:33:22,399
um they even give us a situation that

5526
03:33:22,399 --> 03:33:26,080
happened that week where um a school a

5527
03:33:26,080 --> 03:33:29,600
driver was behind the school van and did

5528
03:33:29,600 --> 03:33:32,720
not see the stop sign and took over. Um,

5529
03:33:32,720 --> 03:33:35,520
but you guys was right there and step up

5530
03:33:35,520 --> 03:33:37,840
um and spoke with the person. I sure if

5531
03:33:37,840 --> 03:33:41,520
they got a ticket or not. Um, I would

5532
03:33:41,520 --> 03:33:46,000
like if we can come up with a system

5533
03:33:46,000 --> 03:33:48,319
that because they aren't on the main

5534
03:33:48,319 --> 03:33:49,840
road

5535
03:33:49,840 --> 03:33:52,319
if there's a possibility that we for us

5536
03:33:52,319 --> 03:33:54,640
to make sure that they should always

5537
03:33:54,640 --> 03:33:57,439
have some coverage as much as I can. Of

5538
03:33:57,439 --> 03:33:59,200
course, does the Baker needs it? Does

5539
03:33:59,200 --> 03:34:00,880
the George need it? Does other school

5540
03:34:00,880 --> 03:34:02,720
need it? Yes. But I feel like for safety

5541
03:34:02,720 --> 03:34:05,520
reasons, um, is that something that can

5542
03:34:05,520 --> 03:34:06,640
be done?

5543
03:34:06,640 --> 03:34:08,000
>> Yes.

5544
03:34:08,000 --> 03:34:10,479
>> All the time.

5545
03:34:10,479 --> 03:34:12,000
>> Yes.

5546
03:34:12,000 --> 03:34:13,920
>> Okay. I'll be doing some random drive

5547
03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:14,479
by. Well,

5548
03:34:14,479 --> 03:34:15,520
>> thank you.

5549
03:34:15,520 --> 03:34:17,520
>> Random cruising.

5550
03:34:17,520 --> 03:34:21,120
>> I'll say this. We have a we have

5551
03:34:21,120 --> 03:34:24,960
a list of schools that we sit on traffic

5552
03:34:24,960 --> 03:34:27,680
>> in the Angelo where it's at because it's

5553
03:34:27,680 --> 03:34:31,439
such a congested area. It's either

5554
03:34:31,439 --> 03:34:34,640
before school or after school before dis

5555
03:34:34,640 --> 03:34:37,760
arrival dismissal. It's about 15 minutes

5556
03:34:37,760 --> 03:34:40,560
of chaos and it goes away. So it is on

5557
03:34:40,560 --> 03:34:43,680
our list of schools that we try and try

5558
03:34:43,680 --> 03:34:46,080
to get to. However, sometimes even

5559
03:34:46,080 --> 03:34:48,319
though we have 12, sometimes things come

5560
03:34:48,319 --> 03:34:52,000
up. Um officers are tied up on calls if

5561
03:34:52,000 --> 03:34:53,600
we're not able to get to that school on

5562
03:34:53,600 --> 03:34:56,560
that date. But that rest assure the the

5563
03:34:56,560 --> 03:34:59,439
Angelo is on that list along with the

5564
03:34:59,439 --> 03:35:05,429
Baker, the George, the Hancock.

5565
03:35:05,439 --> 03:35:09,840
Um, yeah, we got about we got seven

5566
03:35:09,840 --> 03:35:16,550
try to get to the Raymond.

5567
03:35:16,560 --> 03:35:18,080
Well, I just wanted to give a shout out

5568
03:35:18,080 --> 03:35:19,920
because the the principal did did

5569
03:35:19,920 --> 03:35:21,840
mention that when you guys are there

5570
03:35:21,840 --> 03:35:24,560
that things tend to move quickly, but

5571
03:35:24,560 --> 03:35:27,040
the safety of the students and also the

5572
03:35:27,040 --> 03:35:30,160
staff. So, I'm happy to hear that those

5573
03:35:30,160 --> 03:35:32,960
schools that are in the main road are on

5574
03:35:32,960 --> 03:35:35,120
top of your priority list. So, thank

5575
03:35:35,120 --> 03:35:35,840
you.

5576
03:35:35,840 --> 03:35:37,600
>> The uh football games and the events at

5577
03:35:37,600 --> 03:35:39,920
the uh stadium, how many officers do we

5578
03:35:39,920 --> 03:35:45,190
need to cover the uh the football games?

5579
03:35:45,200 --> 03:35:47,760
Hello. Um, that's up to the lieutenant

5580
03:35:47,760 --> 03:35:49,840
usually comes up with the the magic

5581
03:35:49,840 --> 03:35:52,160
number, but I can get that to you.

5582
03:35:52,160 --> 03:35:53,920
>> All right. Yeah, I I would like to

5583
03:35:53,920 --> 03:35:56,479
review that uh, you know, to coincide

5584
03:35:56,479 --> 03:35:59,439
that with our contract. Um,

5585
03:35:59,439 --> 03:35:59,840
>> okay.

5586
03:35:59,840 --> 03:36:03,120
>> You can ask number on the school police

5587
03:36:03,120 --> 03:36:05,439
>> that we shouldn't be getting any uh

5588
03:36:05,439 --> 03:36:08,880
invoices. Uh, that's extra.

5589
03:36:08,880 --> 03:36:09,120
>> Okay.

5590
03:36:09,120 --> 03:36:10,239
>> Thank you.

5591
03:36:10,239 --> 03:36:12,479
>> All right. Thank you, folks. Thank you.

5592
03:36:12,479 --> 03:36:15,920
Um item

5593
03:36:15,920 --> 03:36:17,600
eight, announcements. Is there any

5594
03:36:17,600 --> 03:36:19,359
announcements?

5595
03:36:19,359 --> 03:36:21,680
Seeing none, we'll move to item nine,

5596
03:36:21,680 --> 03:36:25,279
executive session. Um I'll read this

5597
03:36:25,279 --> 03:36:26,880
into the record. Pursuant to mass

5598
03:36:26,880 --> 03:36:30,080
general law, chapter 30A, section 21 A3

5599
03:36:30,080 --> 03:36:32,000
to discuss strategy with respect to

5600
03:36:32,000 --> 03:36:34,080
collective bargaining or litigation if

5601
03:36:34,080 --> 03:36:36,239
an open meeting may be may have a

5602
03:36:36,239 --> 03:36:38,160
detrimental effect on the bargaining or

5603
03:36:38,160 --> 03:36:40,319
litigation position of the public body

5604
03:36:40,319 --> 03:36:42,479
and chair. So declares threaten and

5605
03:36:42,479 --> 03:36:44,880
current litigation. Uh can I have a

5606
03:36:44,880 --> 03:36:46,880
motion to go into executive session?

5607
03:36:46,880 --> 03:36:49,040
>> Motion to go into executive session.

5608
03:36:49,040 --> 03:36:49,600
>> Second.

5609
03:36:49,600 --> 03:36:51,120
>> Motion has been properly made in second.

5610
03:36:51,120 --> 03:36:51,840
Miss Antio,

5611
03:36:51,840 --> 03:36:52,239
>> yes.

5612
03:36:52,239 --> 03:36:52,880
>> Miss Soliviver,

5613
03:36:52,880 --> 03:36:53,200
>> yes.

5614
03:36:53,200 --> 03:36:54,160
>> Mr. Rodriguez,

5615
03:36:54,160 --> 03:36:54,479
>> yes.

5616
03:36:54,479 --> 03:36:55,359
>> Mr. Isac,

5617
03:36:55,359 --> 03:36:56,000
>> yes.

5618
03:36:56,000 --> 03:36:58,239
>> Mr. Sullivan,

5619
03:36:58,239 --> 03:36:59,120
>> yes.

5620
03:36:59,120 --> 03:37:01,600
>> Uh myself is a yes as well. We will be

5621
03:37:01,600 --> 03:37:04,239
going to executive session and we will

5622
03:37:04,239 --> 03:37:06,880
not be coming back. Um

5623
03:37:06,880 --> 03:37:09,279
>> is it going to be on a laptop or is it

5624
03:37:09,279 --> 03:37:13,120
going to be my phone? phone.

5625
03:37:13,120 --> 03:37:15,600
>> Yeah. Um,

5626
03:37:15,600 --> 03:37:18,399
wait, say that again.

5627
03:37:18,399 --> 03:37:20,399
>> And M. Yes. Mr. Sullivan will be joining

5628
03:37:20,399 --> 03:37:23,359
via phone for executive session. Um, can

5629
03:37:23,359 --> 03:37:26,640
I have a motion to adjourn?

5630
03:37:26,640 --> 03:37:28,160
>> Motion to return.

5631
03:37:28,160 --> 03:37:28,800
>> Second.

5632
03:37:28,800 --> 03:37:30,479
>> Motion has been properly made in second.

5633
03:37:30,479 --> 03:37:31,279
Miss Antio,

5634
03:37:31,279 --> 03:37:31,760
>> yes.

5635
03:37:31,760 --> 03:37:32,720
>> Miss Oliver,

5636
03:37:32,720 --> 03:37:33,840
>> yes.

5637
03:37:33,840 --> 03:37:35,200
>> That was executive session.

5638
03:37:35,200 --> 03:37:37,359
>> Oh, Mr. Rodriguez.

5639
03:37:37,359 --> 03:37:37,840
>> Yes.

5640
03:37:37,840 --> 03:37:41,200
>> Mr. Mr. Sullivan.

5641
03:37:41,200 --> 03:37:41,680
>> Yes.

5642
03:37:41,680 --> 03:37:43,680
>> I'm a yes as well. Meeting is adjourned.

5643
03:37:43,680 --> 03:37:47,800
We will not be coming back.