[1:52] Good afternoon and welcome to the
[1:54] council meeting of Tuesday, July 22nd,
[1:56] 2025. We will begin with our land
[1:58] acknowledgement statement. We would like
[2:00] to acknowledge the land on which we meet
[2:02] today. For thousands of years, it has
[2:03] been the traditional land of the
[2:04] Alangquin nation. Today, this meeting
[2:07] place is still the home to many
[2:08] indigenous people, and we are grateful
[2:10] to have the opportunity to live and work
[2:12] on this land. Thank you, Chair
[2:14] Bullerton.
[2:17] » Uh, thank you. Um, his worship, U Mayor
[2:20] Ren, is on vacation this week, so I'm um
[2:24] uh taking his uh his place, his chair,
[2:27] his chair duties tonight. Um we hope
[2:30] he's having a wonderful time and
[2:31] understood that uh was a very uh happy
[2:34] family occasion for the wedding of his
[2:36] daughter on the weekend. So um uh he has
[2:39] all of our good wishes for that. Um uh
[2:43] tonight I wanted to uh extend council's
[2:46] uh condolences to uh the family of Mayor
[2:51] Jim Pickard who um who passed away and
[2:55] um just to say that uh Jim Pickard was a
[2:58] colleague of all of ours. So I think we
[2:59] all knew him well and knew his his ready
[3:02] smile. Um uh Jim uh as I say was the
[3:06] mayor of um Elizabeth Town Kitley. Uh he
[3:10] was a lifelong volunteer. When you look
[3:12] at the the resume, it's amazing. Uh
[3:15] involved with the theater guild with
[3:17] numerous service clubs, um coaching um
[3:21] ball, just doing so many things. He was
[3:25] a former uh citizen of the year in the
[3:27] village of uh Lynn where he was very
[3:29] very active. Uh he was a pilot, he was a
[3:33] boater. um he just lived a very full uh
[3:36] life and he'll be missed by all those
[3:39] who um who knew him and we extend our
[3:42] condolences not just to his family and
[3:45] to his three children uh and and the
[3:47] grandchildren but to the community
[3:49] because we know that um when you uh lose
[3:52] someone like who has been active like
[3:54] Jim um they're really sorely missed. So,
[3:57] our condolences. The arrangements are
[4:00] entrusted with Iran and there is um a
[4:02] visitation on Thursday. So, for those
[4:05] that are um interested in in attending
[4:09] um so residents will not have been able
[4:12] to miss the construction going on at the
[4:15] water tower. And something that, you
[4:17] know, we don't often worry too much
[4:19] about in Brockville because of the large
[4:21] water source that we have in the St.
[4:23] Lawrence River is conservation. but we
[4:25] still have to put it through our
[4:26] distribution center system. So, um we're
[4:29] certainly calling on residents during
[4:31] the time where the water uh towers out
[4:34] of commission to exercise water
[4:36] conservation. So, in everything that you
[4:38] do, that means turning the tap off when
[4:40] you're brushing the teeth. It means um
[4:42] delaying uh uh lawn watering and pool
[4:46] filling certainly until um off uh peak
[4:49] hours. and um you know things like
[4:52] running the dishwasher and that uh if
[4:54] you would do that in the evening when
[4:56] there's less demand for water that will
[4:58] help us get through and make sure that
[5:00] there's a stable source of water um
[5:02] during this during this time that the um
[5:05] tower is being worked on. We heard um at
[5:08] our uh general committee about the
[5:11] brothel art center being in need of
[5:13] volunteers uh in the last week. So, I
[5:16] just wanted to make that appeal from the
[5:17] chair to say that um you know, it's fun
[5:21] to be involved at the Brockville Arts
[5:23] Center and they're um they are actively
[5:26] in need of um of new new volunteers and
[5:30] there's lots of different roles there.
[5:32] So, please contact them if you have an
[5:34] interest.
[5:35] It is uh construction season. And I've
[5:38] certainly um you know had some calls
[5:40] about the disruption to um traffic on
[5:42] Hartley Street because of the work going
[5:45] on the west end of uh King Street. Uh
[5:48] there's not a lot that we can do about
[5:50] that. I mean people have to get where
[5:52] they're going and they have to get there
[5:54] in one way or another. If you're going
[5:55] downtown, that's probably the natural
[5:57] route. But um uh just wanted to say that
[6:01] the work is scheduled to be completed um
[6:04] uh in by the end of September. And
[6:06] that's uh good news. Other good news on
[6:09] the construction front is that the work
[6:11] on the William Street overpass is um
[6:14] ahead of schedule and that uh we
[6:17] anticipate that that bridge may be open
[6:20] for traffic by Labor Day weekend. So
[6:22] fingers crossed that things keep going
[6:24] well, but um that's uh that's
[6:27] considerably ahead of what they thought
[6:29] it would be and I think we're all
[6:31] looking forward to when we can start um
[6:34] using that bridge again. So, um, thank
[6:37] you for that. Um, adoption of council or
[6:42] I'm sorry, uh, disclosure of interest.
[6:45] Anybody got anything?
[6:48] » Seeing none,
[6:49] » Madam chair.
[6:51] » Yes,
[6:51] » Sir. I just wanted to just mention one
[6:53] thing. I know this is a little off the
[6:54] offline, but this past weekend there was
[6:57] also the DEFA festival that took place
[6:59] at the Rotary Park. It was the 8th
[7:01] annual um festival for do it for Aaron
[7:05] and the funding for that went towards
[7:07] the musical institute and lending
[7:09] library that provides musical
[7:11] instruments and lessons for children in
[7:13] the community and uh it was the eighth
[7:15] event. They had four great local bands
[7:17] and I it was a good event. I just didn't
[7:19] want to let this go by without you know
[7:21] congratulating them again for the
[7:23] efforts that are put in and for the
[7:25] services that they provide in the in the
[7:27] city as well. So, I just wanted to uh I
[7:29] wanted to thank the Stevenson family for
[7:31] continuing on with this event. It's a
[7:33] great part of our community.
[7:35] » Absolutely. Um that's I really
[7:37] appreciate you u raising that, councelor
[7:39] Derry. Um you know, these festivals that
[7:42] start with grassroots um uh groups are
[7:45] so important to the vibrancy of our
[7:48] community during the summer. So, yes,
[7:50] congratulations to Willie and his
[7:52] family. And um again, thank you for
[7:54] bringing it up. And while we're on the
[7:56] uh the subject, then we should also
[7:58] mention that we don't think we have a
[8:00] council meeting before um Ribfest and
[8:03] that's coming up the weekend after the
[8:04] civic holiday. So mark your um mark your
[8:08] calendars. It's a three-day event um
[8:11] this year in Hardy Park. Always uh a
[8:14] wonderful time and you'll be able to
[8:16] smell that it's uh that it's here in
[8:18] town and uh it's a great event for a
[8:21] great cause. So, um please uh mark your
[8:24] calendars for that as well. And again,
[8:26] councelor Deiri, thanks for um thanks
[8:29] for jumping in there.
[8:30] » Um
[8:32] adoption of uh council minutes.
[8:34] Councelor Calivas, uh would you move
[8:36] those and councelor Hobbs, would you
[8:38] second? Thank you.
[8:40] » Thank you. Uh it's moved that the
[8:41] minutes of the council meeting of June
[8:43] 24th, 2025 be adopted and circulated as
[8:46] read. And by a show of hands, all those
[8:49] in favor?
[8:52] Thank you. That's carried. Um
[8:54] correspondence. Councelor Earl, will you
[8:57] move the appointments to boards and
[8:58] committees? And councelor Deiri, would
[9:00] you second?
[9:03] » Yes, I will. Yes.
[9:04] » Thank you.
[9:06] » Okay. Do you want me to read them or you
[9:07] just Okay.
[9:08] » Yes. the appointments of boards and
[9:09] committees which would be the heritage
[9:11] committee that Lucas Michaels
[9:14] resignation from the municipal heritage
[9:16] committee be accepted and the necessary
[9:18] bylaw be enacted.
[9:20] » Thank you. All those in favor
[9:23] and that's carried. Thank you. Um
[9:26] delegations uh we have with us um uh
[9:28] this evening guests from uh our
[9:31] neighboring municipality of Prescott and
[9:34] uh they're representing the St. Lawrence
[9:36] Shakespeare Festival. We have uh Jay
[9:38] Wallace and we have uh um Jay Nish
[9:42] Lepedus uh with us tonight to talk about
[9:45] the Shakespeare Festival and welcome to
[9:47] our chambers.
[9:49] » Thank you. Um uh yes, hi everybody. Um
[9:54] uh thank you for having me. My name is
[9:56] James Wallace. I'm one of the co-artic
[9:58] directors of the St. Lawrence
[9:59] Shakespeare Festival in Prescott,
[10:00] Ontario. I'm here representing the
[10:02] festival, although there are great many
[10:04] of people who make the festival happen,
[10:06] including um my partner and co-artic
[10:08] director, Julia Nishlapus, who is not
[10:10] here tonight because she's currently
[10:11] taking care of our three-year-old
[10:13] daughter. Um so, uh also our general
[10:16] manager, Ingred Borgensson, our
[10:17] volunteers, including our wonderful
[10:19] board of directors. There is a wonderful
[10:21] board of director uh here, Peter Martin,
[10:23] former board of director, Judy Martin.
[10:25] Wonderful supporters. Uh, and finally,
[10:26] the world-class artists who come to the
[10:28] festival every summer who are currently
[10:29] ready to preview Sherlock Holmes and The
[10:31] Vanishing Hour tonight at the
[10:33] amphitheater. The final group that is
[10:35] essential to the sustainability and
[10:36] longevity of our company is our patrons
[10:38] uh, who come for the festival every year
[10:40] to see plays in our majestic
[10:41] amphitheater right on the St. Lawrence
[10:43] River. Our patrons come from all across
[10:45] Eastern Ontario, including Ottawa,
[10:47] Kingston, and the surrounding area,
[10:49] including many from Brockville. The St.
[10:51] Staint Lauren Shakespeare Festival is
[10:52] entering its 23rd season and we see this
[10:55] as an opportunity to reach out to new
[10:57] patrons with an exciting chance to
[10:58] discover our wonderful festival as well
[11:00] as to continue to serve our existing
[11:02] audience base. This is why I'm here
[11:05] today to represent the company to
[11:07] introduce myself on behalf of the
[11:08] artistic team uh with Julia as well and
[11:12] to implore you to lend your voice to
[11:13] support the festival as a regional
[11:15] tourist destination. I want to be clear
[11:18] that the support we are looking for
[11:19] today is not monetary. Our hope is to
[11:22] have the region take at large take
[11:23] ownership of this festival as we work to
[11:26] shift the perspective of it from a
[11:28] Prescott festival to a regional tourist
[11:30] attraction. Uh we believe we have a
[11:33] mutually beneficial opportunity between
[11:34] Brockville and our festival to support
[11:36] enhance and maintain both of our growths
[11:38] as we weather everchanging landscape of
[11:41] tourist trends, funding and audience
[11:43] interest. And this is going to be fun to
[11:45] do. Here we go. Nice.
[11:48] The St. Lawren Shakespeare Festival is a
[11:50] leader in culture and an ongoing source
[11:51] of pride within Eastern Ontario. We, as
[11:54] a cultural institution, are a beacon of
[11:56] professional performing arts, community
[11:57] engagement, and a driver of economic
[11:59] development and tourism in the region.
[12:01] We endeavor for excellence in all areas
[12:03] of impact, striving to bring joy,
[12:05] enrichment, and thoughtprovoking
[12:07] experiences to patrons, volunteers, and
[12:09] participants from all across the region,
[12:11] province, and beyond. Last year,
[12:14] approximately 49% of our audience were
[12:16] from Brockville and the surrounding
[12:17] area. We hope to beginning a new
[12:20] partnership between our festival in this
[12:21] town in this town will continue to grow
[12:23] that number and inspire new visitors
[12:24] from all over this region.
[12:28] As an evening at theater, uh an evening
[12:31] at the theater, pardon me, is one of
[12:33] possibility. It's an opportunity to let
[12:35] your imagination explore new ideas,
[12:37] worlds, and situations and learn
[12:39] something about yourself or the world
[12:41] around you. When people talk about what
[12:43] they value most in their lives, the arts
[12:45] is always at the top of the list. Music,
[12:46] literature, film, TV, and theater. Yet,
[12:49] the arts are severely underfunded and
[12:51] often only accessible for a people of
[12:53] certain means. It is imperative that the
[12:56] patrons of the theater and and the
[12:58] surrounding community feel welcome and
[12:59] encouraged to engage with this festival
[13:01] and to know the arts are for everyone.
[13:04] We do this through a variety of
[13:05] programs, including our TD Kidsgree
[13:08] program, which allows youth aged 14 and
[13:10] under to attend the productions at no
[13:12] cost, making it accessible for families
[13:14] who may be not otherwise be able to
[13:16] expose their children to the theater. We
[13:18] also offer a pay what you can
[13:20] performances and in general, no one is
[13:22] turned away. If someone wants to join us
[13:23] and experience what we have to offer,
[13:25] they are invited to the fold.
[13:27] All of these programs geared to bringing
[13:30] more families of all kinds to our
[13:32] theater are available to people within
[13:33] the region, including those who are
[13:34] located in Brockville.
[13:38] The St. Lauren Shakespeare Festival is a
[13:40] place where the highest possible
[13:41] standards of artistic excellence are
[13:42] achieved by producing professional
[13:44] productions in magnificent natural
[13:46] surroundings while encouraging the
[13:47] greatest possible level of in community
[13:49] involvement. Our mission is to inspire
[13:52] Eastern Ontario communities through
[13:53] unforgettable and uplifting professional
[13:54] theatrical experiences. We are one of
[13:57] the only classical theaters in the
[13:59] region. Therefore, it is upon us to
[14:00] build exciting worlds with old plays,
[14:04] especially through the work of
[14:05] Shakespeare, but we are always thinking
[14:07] beyond the bard, finding other
[14:09] electrifying words to worlds to explore
[14:11] through the themes and ideas that his
[14:12] work brought to the fold. We have a
[14:15] vision to be the foremost outdoor
[14:16] theater destination in Eastern Ontario,
[14:18] known for artistic excellence,
[14:20] educational outreach, and commitment to
[14:21] inclusivity. We aspire to create a
[14:23] cultural landmark that attracts
[14:25] audiences from near and far, fostering a
[14:27] deep appreciation of the performing arts
[14:29] and enriching the cultural and economic
[14:30] fabric of our region.
[14:33] We have recently completed a strategic
[14:35] planning session working to specify our
[14:37] goals and structures in planning for the
[14:39] present and future. We created some
[14:41] concrete strategies going forward as
[14:43] well as compete uh completing our
[14:44] mission vision values for our festival.
[14:46] I wanted to share the core values we
[14:48] identified during this session so that
[14:49] you have a clear understanding of the
[14:51] values guiding our work. Artistic
[14:53] excellence to deliver highquality
[14:55] captivating productions to ensure each
[14:56] performance is a testament to the
[14:58] enduring power of theater. Community
[15:00] engagement to actively involve and
[15:02] connect our community to foster strong
[15:04] lasting relationships and shared
[15:06] experiences. Collaboration to work with
[15:08] local artists, organizations, and
[15:10] businesses to create a vibrant creative
[15:11] force. Education to provide educational
[15:14] opportunities that deepen the
[15:15] understanding of our theater through
[15:16] public programs. Inclusivity to welcome
[15:19] to create a welcoming environment for
[15:21] all ensuring diverse voices and
[15:23] perspectives are represented and
[15:24] celebrated both on stage and off.
[15:26] Innovation to embrace fresh ideas and
[15:29] approaches to push the boundaries of
[15:30] what theater can be. Sustainability to
[15:33] ensure the long-term viability of the
[15:35] festival by managing resources
[15:36] effectively and responsibly.
[15:41] As artists, we are always striving for
[15:43] an ideal, something that people can
[15:45] connect to and motivate them to per to
[15:47] find purpose, passion, and joy within
[15:50] their day-to-day world. Our ideal for
[15:52] our ideal is for an enjoyable,
[15:54] stimulating, and surprising adventure,
[15:56] one that can only be experienced with
[15:58] live theater. As Shakespeare wrote, we
[16:00] ask our patrons and audience to awake
[16:03] their faith. By which we mean, we
[16:05] encourage you to unleash your
[16:06] imagination to its fullest reach. We
[16:09] know that your a partnership between
[16:11] Brockville and the festival will help
[16:13] make us the valued and ubiquitous
[16:14] component of summer that we need to be
[16:16] in this region. We know that we can all
[16:18] benefit from the permanence and
[16:19] amplification of a healthy, openhearted
[16:21] and vigorous artistic institution like
[16:23] the St. Lawrence Shakespeare Festival.
[16:26] I'm very excited uh to be here to let
[16:28] you know as well what we're doing this
[16:29] summer. Uh, our 2025 mainstay season
[16:32] begins actually on Saturday and we'll
[16:34] open another show on tomorrow. Uh, with
[16:36] Much to Do About Nothing by William
[16:38] Shakespeare. This hilarious story of
[16:39] gossip, love, betrayal, and mistakes
[16:41] will be set in the 1980s. It's a really,
[16:43] really great soundtrack. Uh, and it's
[16:45] set in a small town like many in this
[16:47] region with lots of fun to keep the
[16:49] audiences laughing all night. And
[16:51] repertoire with much ado is Sherlock
[16:52] Holmes and the Vanishing Hour, a new
[16:54] play based on the classic Sherlock
[16:55] Holmes character set along the St.
[16:57] Lawrence River. Holmes comes to Canada
[16:59] to solve a case where he meets a nurse
[17:01] named Joan Watson. The two go on an
[17:03] adventure that is both thrilling that is
[17:05] thrilling, surprising, and entertaining.
[17:07] Our mainstage season runs currently is
[17:09] currently running from July 18th to
[17:10] August 9th. Finally, our summer festival
[17:13] ends with a remount of our hugely
[17:14] successful production of PlayOn, a
[17:16] Shakespeare inspired mixtape originally
[17:18] created for and receiving a soldout run
[17:20] at the Stratford Festival of Canada.
[17:22] This cabaret charts Shakespeare's
[17:23] influence on pop music through history.
[17:25] This fun and exciting evening of music
[17:27] features songs by Elton John, Taylor
[17:29] Swift, the Beatles, and many more.
[17:31] PlayOn runs one week from August 12th to
[17:33] the 16th. And at the end of this summer,
[17:36] we will be doing our annual community
[17:38] show, which I think some people know
[17:40] many participants in today, uh, which
[17:42] this year is a musical comedy called
[17:44] Songs on the River, which will use songs
[17:45] and a heartwarming story to celebrate
[17:47] the vitality, fun, and joy of living on
[17:49] the mighty St. Lawrence. Uh this year we
[17:51] have over 40 participants from age 6 to
[17:54] 70 from all over the region including
[17:56] Brockville. Our community show runs for
[17:58] three shows August 22nd and 23rd. All
[18:01] tickets for our shows can be purchased
[18:02] online at the St. Lawren Shakespeare
[18:03] festival.ca or pardon me I should say
[18:05] staint lord Shakespeare shape
[18:07] lordshakespeare.ca.
[18:10] We hope that you will join us this
[18:11] summer in order to see firsthand what
[18:12] we're talking about in regards to the
[18:14] magnetic thrill of the amphitheater, the
[18:15] artists and the community coming
[18:17] together to support.
[18:19] In closing, I would like to thank you
[18:21] for having me again here tonight. Julie
[18:23] and I both cherish the opportunities to
[18:24] get to know people of this region. We
[18:26] are from Toronto. Uh so coming here
[18:28] every summer with our daughter is a huge
[18:30] lift and we are always uh incredibly
[18:33] glad to do that by meeting people in
[18:35] this gorgeous settings and amazing
[18:37] stories that happen here. We feel very
[18:39] lucky to produce theater in this region.
[18:41] We hope that you will join us in our
[18:43] continued work to enrich the lives of
[18:45] wonderful residents in our region and
[18:46] take ownership of this festival as a
[18:48] truly regional beacon of tourism
[18:49] opportunities and cultural distinction.
[18:52] We can't wait to see you at the theater.
[18:54] Thank you very much.
[19:01] » Well, thank you so much for coming uh
[19:03] this evening. I think that you know uh
[19:06] we've been talking about tourism uh in
[19:08] in the city for you know ever
[19:12] » And we've been talking about campus
[19:14] approach and certainly Prescott is part
[19:16] of our campus. When you succeed, we
[19:18] succeed. So I I think you know uh it's
[19:21] it's a great idea for you to be here
[19:23] tonight to talk to us and uh and
[19:25] hopefully uh garner some um publicity
[19:28] for what you're doing and also some
[19:30] support from uh those of us that are
[19:32] here to hear you. um to hear you speak
[19:34] about it. Um your presentation certainly
[19:37] reminds me of my days attending G
[19:40] University and we got to go to um
[19:42] Stratford and the a number of
[19:44] productions and uh it's a wonderful
[19:46] experience, but I can't think of any
[19:48] nicer stage than what you have in
[19:50] Prescott with the river as your
[19:51] backdrop. It's just uh absolutely
[19:54] gorgeous.
[19:54] » It's by far the most beautiful place to
[19:56] watch theater in the country. So when we
[19:58] got the job last year, that was one of
[19:59] our pitches like we just want to be here
[20:01] to do theater here. So yeah, it's yeah,
[20:03] it's it's so pretty and I can just
[20:04] imagine even on the warmest uh summer
[20:06] night uh with the breeze off the river,
[20:09] I'm sure that it's very comfortable and
[20:11] uh it it looks like a it will be a very
[20:14] wonderful experience. Um have we got uh
[20:17] questions, comments? Yes, Councelor
[20:19] Hobbes. Thanks, Madam Chair. Um and
[20:22] thanks so much uh Mr. Wallace for being
[20:24] here. That's fantastic. I'm just
[20:26] wondering if you have been interfacing
[20:28] with our tourism team in the city or if
[20:32] that's planned.
[20:33] » Uh I would love to. I've had certain
[20:35] talks with some within the Thousand
[20:36] Islands region about that. Um on our
[20:38] board is Diana Clark who worked um
[20:40] within many different facets of of of
[20:43] this city and many other ones. Um her
[20:45] husband Steve Clark is very supportive
[20:48] of our uh of our festival. Um, I would
[20:50] like to have as many opportunities as I
[20:52] can um to speak to anybody because I
[20:54] think this is what we're hoping to do is
[20:56] push into the idea that tourism is for
[20:58] us all. That Prescott will benefit just
[21:00] as much as Brockville will. Uh, so my
[21:03] hope is to talk to more people. We're a
[21:04] small team. It's basically me, Jules,
[21:06] and uh our our our general manager
[21:09] Ingred. So there's opportunities to talk
[21:12] in the offseason, too, because we are
[21:13] kind of going this year, but this to me
[21:15] is a great opportunity thinking forward
[21:17] to next year and beyond. Um, as of 2027,
[21:20] it's our 25th anniversary, which is I I
[21:22] can't tell you enough, like for a
[21:23] theater to last 25 years is pretty
[21:25] amazing. So, uh, the fact that we're
[21:28] getting here, getting through a
[21:29] pandemic, coming out of that, and being
[21:31] able to, uh, to still put on the best
[21:34] professional theater in my opinion, in
[21:35] the region is a very big thing. But yes,
[21:37] more more talking with those people
[21:39] would be lovely because they're much
[21:40] more bigger experts at this than I am. I
[21:42] can tell you a lot about Shakespeare,
[21:43] but not so much in tourism development.
[21:45] So,
[21:46] » Thanks. That's great. and
[21:47] congratulations on the number of years
[21:49] you've been operating.
[21:50] » Thank you very much. Sorry, it looked
[21:52] like somebody that was weird. Thank you
[21:54] very much, Councelor Hobs. I apologize.
[21:56] Oh, that was just I got a little
[21:57] » Weird. Did
[21:59] » I just Thank you very much uh for the um
[22:02] for the presentation tonight. I've uh
[22:05] enjoyed going to the Shakespeare
[22:07] Festival uh for as long as I've been a a
[22:10] theatergoer. And uh it's neat to have
[22:13] such high quality highc caliber theater
[22:15] uh in the region. and people from Ottawa
[22:18] talk about it as well because that's
[22:20] that's very common. Like I've been in
[22:22] Shakespeare festival audiences before
[22:24] where you'll be sitting next to someone,
[22:26] oh yeah, we drove down from from Ottawa
[22:28] uh for for the night. So um it's uh it's
[22:31] known and I I hope that it'll only
[22:33] become more known and you're taking the
[22:35] right approach by uh by trying to go
[22:37] with the the regional uh regional campus
[22:40] uh efforts to to draw more people to the
[22:42] area.
[22:43] » Absolutely. And just uh be careful
[22:44] because sometimes people who visit from
[22:46] Toronto stick around.
[22:47] » Well, yeah. I mean it's it's beautiful.
[22:50] Like we don't got anything like this in
[22:51] Toronto. So uh I always go down the two
[22:53] and it's like everybody's like, "Oh,
[22:54] it's so slow in the two." And I'm like,
[22:56] "But it takes 25 minutes to get anywhere
[22:58] in Toronto." So like it's all good. But
[23:00] yeah, like we have audiences from
[23:01] Ottawa, Kingston, from Ogdensburg, the
[23:03] United States all the time. We have lots
[23:05] of audiences from Toronto, um throughout
[23:07] the province. what we're trying to do is
[23:09] guide that towards telling the region
[23:11] that that benefits them as well. Um and
[23:14] not just make it a Prescott thing. So
[23:15] yeah, I agree and um the Ottawa
[23:17] connection is fantastic. So yeah.
[23:20] » Yeah. Councelor Lebert,
[23:24] » Thank you so much. Uh, Chair Bullerton,
[23:28] um, it it really speaks that you're
[23:30] someone from like coming out from
[23:32] theater because you're one of the person
[23:34] that has doing a presentation that could
[23:36] not use a microphone. It would be
[23:39] perfect. You know, you have like the
[23:40] vocal for it. So, thank you so much. Um,
[23:44] just an idea and a thought, maybe
[23:46] contacting the downtown BIA as well. Um,
[23:50] they have uh some shop the street event.
[23:53] » Yes,
[23:53] » People are welcome. groups are welcome
[23:56] to set up a tent and do some promotion.
[23:58] So maybe there's people in Brockville
[24:01] that don't know about the festival and
[24:04] it could be a good opportunity for you
[24:07] and some volunteers to be there. I know
[24:09] that their next event is August 12th.
[24:12] » Okay.
[24:12] » And from a promoter to another promoter,
[24:15] I'm also hosting the Twilight Tuesday
[24:17] Makers Market. It's going to be at the
[24:19] end of your season because it's uh
[24:21] August 19.
[24:22] » Okay. But if it's a Tuesday night, if
[24:26] you wants to come between in between
[24:28] like 4 and 7 PM and maybe distribute
[24:32] flyers,
[24:33] » I would love that. Yes.
[24:34] » Well, you're more than welcome.
[24:35] » Thank you very much. I I'll find out
[24:37] contact for that. That's great. Yeah,
[24:38] these are all great things going
[24:40] forward, right? Like we're talking about
[24:41] this season and beyond. Uh we have been
[24:43] at markets uh the farmers market a
[24:45] number of times last summer. We were at
[24:46] the Tall Ships Festival with a booth
[24:48] this year speaking to people from
[24:49] Brockville. Um, yeah, and we did find a
[24:52] lot of people go, "Yeah, I know all
[24:53] about this." And some people are like,
[24:54] "I've been here for 20 years and I don't
[24:56] know what you're talking about." So, uh,
[24:58] letting people know and that's always a
[25:00] good thing. So, absolutely, we'll take
[25:01] you up on that that night night,
[25:05] » Not the nightmare on Christmas.
[25:06] » Oh, no, no, it's okay.
[25:07] » Twilight Tuesday.
[25:08] » Twilight Tuesdays. That was close,
[25:10] right? So, absolutely. That's great.
[25:11] Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.
[25:14] » Well, that's wonderful. Uh, yes, Cathol.
[25:18] Well, actually last Tuesday night or was
[25:21] that Tuesday night? Saturday night I
[25:23] under false pretenses I thought I was
[25:25] going to a political meeting called
[25:27] bunch of do about nothing and and I
[25:29] ended up at your your your theater.
[25:32] » Yeah, it's great.
[25:33] » Where at uh and uh everything people
[25:36] have said is it's a lovely venue on the
[25:38] St. Lawrence. They uh is uh always a
[25:42] nice cool breeze off of there and
[25:44] there's always somebody like your board
[25:46] of director Peter selling losing 5050
[25:49] tickets. Uh but uh the the the time was
[25:53] lovely down there and the uh the the
[25:56] play was most interesting. Shakespeare
[25:58] always is.
[25:59] Whether you're in the uh Shakespeare
[26:02] part of the of the Stratford or whether
[26:06] you're in Prescott or whether you're in
[26:07] the the Shakespeare Theater at the
[26:09] National Arts Center.
[26:10] » Absolutely.
[26:11] » And uh um I certainly enjoyed it and uh
[26:15] I obviously can't make your performance
[26:16] tonight.
[26:17] » That's okay.
[26:19] » But uh I will try and catch uh catch up
[26:22] to that at some point in time here. And
[26:24] uh and you know, it's not just your
[26:26] theater. It's theater all over Eastern
[26:29] Ontario. The um the uh Playhouse in
[26:33] Morrisburg, the for Canada Playhouse,
[26:36] and the the uh again Playhouse are, you
[26:40] know, there there's, you know, if you're
[26:41] a theatergoer in this area, there's an
[26:44] immense number of opportunities to to go
[26:46] to catch good theater and good
[26:48] entertainment and and usually good
[26:51] dining out before or after. So quite
[26:54] enjoyable and and thank you for what you
[26:57] do putting that that uh those those
[26:59] plays on down there. They were most
[27:02] entertaining.
[27:02] » Thank you for being with us. Yeah. And
[27:04] to speak to the theater thing, not only
[27:06] Thousand Islands Playhouse, which is not
[27:07] far in Ganon, Morrisburg, but also
[27:09] there's an immense amount of community
[27:11] theater that goes on in this in this
[27:12] region and not only the Brockville
[27:14] Operatic Society, which we now have
[27:16] connections with many times, but it's uh
[27:18] the theater is is ubiquitous in
[27:20] communities like this and that's what's
[27:21] very important to us. uh whether it be
[27:23] outside at the amphitheater doing
[27:24] Shakespeare or doing Matilda, it doesn't
[27:26] matter. Like I I'll take anybody going
[27:27] to the theater. That's great. Um because
[27:30] it is a collaboration. It's a community
[27:31] collaboration between the people on
[27:33] stage and the patrons who are watching
[27:34] the show. So thanks for being there.
[27:36] Yeah, theater can be political
[27:37] sometimes. Much to do is you could take
[27:40] it to be political, but yeah,
[27:41] absolutely.
[27:43] » Yeah, exactly. Well, that's what it is,
[27:44] right? Absolutely. Absolutely.
[27:48] Well, thank you so much for coming uh
[27:50] this evening and we hope that you get
[27:52] some some spin from absolutely from from
[27:55] uh being here. You know, I certainly
[27:57] noticed uh we were driving down Highway
[27:59] 2 on the weekend and we noticed uh uh
[28:02] how full uh the the uh motel just
[28:06] outside of town was. And um you know,
[28:09] we've always sort of talked about this
[28:11] is that we have to publicize what there
[28:13] is for people to do once we get them
[28:15] here. And um you know the uh certainly
[28:18] the Shakespeare festival is part of what
[28:20] um is is what make is going to um make
[28:23] people come back and absolutely it's
[28:25] great if we work together.
[28:27] » Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah. It's
[28:28] it's all just for us about not only the
[28:29] practical like whatever whatever support
[28:31] comes in that practical way but also
[28:33] about the philosophical approach of that
[28:35] this is all of our festival. It's not
[28:37] just Prescott's festival. It's
[28:38] everyone's festival to do just that.
[28:40] It's like go to stay at that hotel, go
[28:42] to that restaurant, see the play. So, I
[28:44] think we're all on the same page with
[28:45] that. Absolutely.
[28:46] » Absolutely. Well, thank you and we wish
[28:48] you uh the best of luck with your season
[28:50] and we hope it's um it's very uh
[28:53] successful and that your um your troop
[28:57] uh continues. 25 years, that's a lot. I
[28:59] know it's a it's a great great uh
[29:01] landmark. Yeah.
[29:02] » Thank you for having me. I am going to
[29:03] jet out because I've got to get to the
[29:04] show at 7, but thank you so much for
[29:06] having me everybody. I very much
[29:07] appreciate it. Nice meeting you all.
[29:09] » Good night.
[29:12] We have um a uh consent agenda and we
[29:16] have a regular agenda for the um um
[29:20] planning uh committee. Councelor
[29:21] Calivas, would you take the uh consent
[29:23] agenda and councelor Leverne, would you
[29:26] um uh second, please?
[29:28] » Yes. Thank you.
[29:30] » Uh thank you. Um so we've got two items
[29:34] on the uh consent. Uh so all matters
[29:37] listed under consent agenda are
[29:38] considered to be routine and will be
[29:40] enacted by one motion should a council
[29:42] member wished an alternative action. The
[29:45] proposed recommendation the council
[29:46] member should Relle request that it be
[29:48] removed. So is there any councelor
[29:50] wishing the first and second items to be
[29:54] removed? Not hearing or seeing.
[29:56] » None. Um it's that the uh report uh
[30:00] 2025119
[30:02] King Street West water main
[30:04] reconstruction phase 2 be received for
[30:05] information and that the um main pumping
[30:09] station designed that the increase of
[30:11] $132,863.96
[30:14] including HSD to the engineering
[30:17] services contract with consultant JL JL
[30:21] Richards for the main pumping station
[30:23] design due to changes in project scope
[30:26] and requirements as outlined below be
[30:28] approved.
[30:33] » I think that's it.
[30:34] » Okay. So, uh we'll call the question.
[30:38] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[30:40] before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you
[30:41] vote?
[30:42] » Yes.
[30:43] » Councelor Earl?
[30:44] » Yes.
[30:45] » Councelor Hobbs?
[30:46] » Yes.
[30:46] » Councelor Calvas?
[30:48] » Yes.
[30:48] » Councelor Leverne?
[30:52] Oh,
[30:54] yes. Thank you. Councelor
[30:56] Wales.
[30:57] » Yes.
[30:57] » And Chair Person.
[30:59] » Yes.
[30:59] » That's carried. Thank you.
[31:01] » Um moving on to the regular um agenda.
[31:06] Uh
[31:06] » I'll Yeah. So um we can u Madam Chair,
[31:10] we're just going to switch the names a
[31:12] little bit and I'll have um it does it
[31:14] does say consent agenda, but we're
[31:16] obviously just going to call it what it
[31:17] is and just uh read it off. Uh but I
[31:20] will have councelor Wales move it and I
[31:22] will second it. U as there is a a minor
[31:25] amendment that's going to be put on by
[31:27] councelor Wales as well and so and so
[31:30] forth. So very good with that I'll
[31:32] second it.
[31:33] » Okay. Thank you.
[31:35] » Thanks. All right everybody settle in.
[31:38] Uh so this is 2025-127
[31:40] proposed amendments to the official plan
[31:42] and zoning bylaw for 107 to19 King
[31:44] Street West. that official plan
[31:46] amendment number 35 respecting lands
[31:48] described as lots 87 to 89 90 part of
[31:51] lots 82 to 84 86 and 91 to 93 together
[31:55] with an unnumbered lot 30 plan 67 being
[31:59] parts 1 2 and part of lot 3 on 28R 5445
[32:03] together with part three on 28R13791
[32:07] city of Rockville known municipally as
[32:09] 107 to19 King Street West be amended to
[32:12] redesate the property from downtown and
[32:14] central waterfront area within the
[32:16] mixeduse node. Subject to main street
[32:18] area policies, continuous street
[32:20] frontage policies, and source water
[32:22] protection considerations to downtown
[32:24] and central waterfront sight specific
[32:26] policy area within the mixeduse node
[32:29] subject to main street area policies,
[32:31] potential intensification site policies,
[32:33] and source water protection
[32:34] considerations. Identify a maximum of
[32:37] six stories within the skyline
[32:38] development area and permit a maximum
[32:40] angular plane of 59 degrees on Home
[32:42] Street. that zoning bylaw 050 2014 be
[32:46] amended to reszone lands described as
[32:48] lots 87 to 89 90 part of lots 82 to 84
[32:51] 86 and 91 to 93 together with an
[32:54] unnumbered lot 30 plan 67 being parts 1
[32:58] 2 and part of lot 3 on 28R5445
[33:02] together with part three on 28R13791
[33:05] city of Brockville known municipally as
[33:07] 107 to19 King Street West from mixed uh
[33:11] MD mixeduse downtown zone in part and MW
[33:14] mixeduse waterfront zone in part subject
[33:16] to minimum twostory building height at
[33:18] street edge policies maximum building
[33:20] height six-story policies in part
[33:23] maximum building height four-story
[33:24] policies in part continuous street
[33:26] frontage policies minimum ground floor
[33:28] height policies for King Street
[33:30] intermittent street frontage policies at
[33:32] home street and source water protection
[33:34] considerations to H6 MD mixeduse
[33:37] downtown special exception zone subject
[33:39] to minimum two-story building height at
[33:41] street edge policies
[33:42] continuous street frontage policies,
[33:44] intermittent street frontage policies,
[33:46] and source water protection
[33:47] considerations to allow development of
[33:49] the property for a mixeduse building
[33:51] containing 128 apartment dwellings and
[33:54] to establish sight specific development
[33:56] standards. That the mayor and clerk be
[33:58] authorized to enter into a cash in lie
[33:59] of parking agreement with the owner to
[34:01] require cash in lee of parking for 39
[34:03] parking spaces in the amount of $6,000
[34:06] per space for a total of $234,000.
[34:09] that a vacant land appraisal be
[34:11] submitted for the property prepared by
[34:12] an accredited appraiser and that 2% cash
[34:15] in lie of parkland be paid to the city
[34:17] based on the appraised value provided
[34:19] prior to the execution of a site plan
[34:20] control agreement and that the chief
[34:22] planning officer be authorized to remove
[34:24] the H6 holding zone provision upon
[34:26] execution and receipt of any funds
[34:28] required under the cash in le of parking
[34:30] agreement and that the necessary bylaws
[34:32] be enacted. So I wonder if before the
[34:34] amendment we could just get a very brief
[34:36] overview of what this is. I know not
[34:38] everybody uh can make it to the the
[34:40] planning meetings and be good just to
[34:42] get a brief overview of the project.
[34:44] » Yes.
[34:44] » Yeah. Good.
[34:46] » Uh through you, Madam Chair. So um about
[34:51] a month and a half ago, we had a public
[34:52] meeting concerning proposed amendment to
[34:54] zoning bylaw and the official plan for
[34:56] 107 to 119 King Street West for a new
[35:00] mixeduse
[35:02] proposal. Um the original proposal did
[35:06] receive amendments between the public
[35:08] meeting and the recommendation meeting.
[35:10] So what I'll do is I'll go through what
[35:12] was originally requested and then what
[35:14] was proposed at the recommendation
[35:16] meeting and then ultimately accepted by
[35:18] planning and development to move forward
[35:20] to this floor. Um we won't go through
[35:23] the official plan itself because it it
[35:26] remained the same except for the angular
[35:28] plane um which the details itself
[35:32] I'll get into with the zoning part. So,
[35:35] the original zoning request that did go
[35:38] through to the public meeting uh was to
[35:41] reszone the property to allow a
[35:43] six-story building containing
[35:46] approximately 140 residential units with
[35:49] commercial on the ground floor. Uh the
[35:51] reason why we required a zoning
[35:53] amendment is we don't allow residential
[35:55] on the main floor. Uh that was one of
[35:58] the amendments specific. Uh there was
[36:00] parking, angular plane requirements,
[36:03] um children's play area reductions that
[36:06] were being being requested. Uh so
[36:08] specifically the special exceptions
[36:10] requested at the public meeting was to
[36:12] increase the continuous street frontage
[36:14] setback from 0ero to 1.2. So what that
[36:17] is is we require all the buildings,
[36:20] sorry, our official plan and zoning
[36:22] require all the buildings along King
[36:24] Street to be built at a zero setback.
[36:28] They actually requested to increase that
[36:30] to 1.2
[36:32] to match the building next door. So two
[36:35] for one and manpower
[36:37] uh which actually increases the public
[36:39] realm. We'll deal with the applicant. I
[36:41] explained it last week at uh planning
[36:43] and development that we deal with the
[36:45] applicant on who would maintain that
[36:46] portion because it's actually going to
[36:48] increase the size of the sidewalk, who's
[36:50] going to look after that, etc. But we'll
[36:52] deal with the applicant or the owner at
[36:54] that time regarding that. Uh increase to
[36:58] the maximum intermittent street
[36:59] frontage. So this is along home street.
[37:01] They're looking to increase it from 1.2
[37:04] to three to set the building back a
[37:06] little more which did provide
[37:12] more height allowance in the angular
[37:14] plane even though they still came
[37:16] forward for a request
[37:18] uh reduction of the minimum rear yard.
[37:20] The original request was from 6 mters to
[37:22] 1.8. I explained that that was a staff
[37:26] error last week. Uh it should have been
[37:29] 6 m or 50% of the height of the building
[37:32] which was 10.5. So it should have
[37:34] originally been 10.5 down to 1.8.
[37:38] Through negotiations, however, um with
[37:42] the applicant,
[37:43] we actually uh the applicant agreed to
[37:46] remove the last two units and associated
[37:49] underground parking off of each floor
[37:52] and increase the reard setback to 9.8
[37:54] mters. So, the request is actually 9.8
[37:58] from 10.8 or 10.2, sorry, rather than
[38:02] down to 1.8. So, the increase to the
[38:05] rear yard is from Water Street.
[38:10] Uh the increase to the angular plane was
[38:12] 45 degrees to 53 degrees at Home Street.
[38:16] Uh as explained last week and through
[38:18] the report under the recommendation, it
[38:20] was actually taken at the wrong spot. So
[38:23] our angular plane requirement is the
[38:25] entire facade of the building. The
[38:28] angular plane number was taken at King
[38:30] and Home and should have been taken at
[38:32] the south end of home. the number
[38:36] changed from 53 to 59 degrees.
[38:40] Um staff did explain though that we
[38:42] don't believe a recirculation's
[38:43] required. The concept that was seen at
[38:45] the public meeting did not change other
[38:48] than actually increasing the rear yard.
[38:50] So the angular plane actually is a
[38:52] little less than 59. Uh we didn't
[38:55] require a new number to be supplied
[38:56] though because of that
[38:59] increase to the rear yard.
[39:02] uh they're looking for a reduction in
[39:03] the minimum loading space required from
[39:05] one to zero. Uh that's just due to our
[39:09] requirements based on size. We require a
[39:12] minimum of 3.5 m wide by 9 m deep with a
[39:18] vertical clearance of 4.5 and they're
[39:21] not sure if they can accommodate that
[39:24] within the building. They will be
[39:26] supplying or looking to supply, sorry,
[39:29] not saying will, looking to supply
[39:31] loading, just not at our size
[39:33] requirements. So, they won't be putting
[39:35] transports in there. They'll be using
[39:37] more cube bands or things that won't
[39:40] meet our size. So, they asked for that
[39:41] reduction.
[39:43] Uh they're looking the original request
[39:44] was for a reduction in parking from 153
[39:47] to 113
[39:50] due to the loss of units or reduction in
[39:55] units. Uh the minimum parking required
[39:57] is now 142. They're looking at supplying
[40:00] 103.
[40:02] They're also looking to decrease the
[40:04] minimum ground floor height from 4.5 m
[40:06] to 3.35.
[40:09] permission to locate residential on the
[40:10] ground floor as I had mentioned and
[40:12] relief to not require the children's
[40:14] play area due to the proximity to Hardy
[40:16] Park. Uh staff however did put forward a
[40:19] recommendation for both the parking cash
[40:21] andloo and also cash inlark land uh to
[40:25] maybe look at other locations for
[40:27] parkland space or increasing what's
[40:30] available at Hardy Park and also
[40:33] increasing our funds to look for parking
[40:35] elsewhere. Um, we know that parking is
[40:38] in demand downtown and a lot of places
[40:41] are asking for reductions, but uh, we
[40:43] need to build that fund to look for
[40:45] parking elsewhere.
[40:47] » And I understand through discussions
[40:50] that some neighbors on Apple Street were
[40:52] concerned with the sideyard setback. Um,
[40:55] the sideyard setback itself. So that's
[40:57] I'll I'll explain the yards. So I'll
[41:00] start with King and home because that's
[41:03] where the confusion lies under
[41:04] definitions. When you have two street uh
[41:07] two street frontages that have bought a
[41:08] property, the shortest frontage of the
[41:11] two becomes your front yard.
[41:14] The opposite is the exterior sideyard
[41:17] and then based on definition, the
[41:19] opposite of your front yard is your rear
[41:21] yard. The other on this property would
[41:24] be an interior sideyard.
[41:27] So when the amendment did come forward,
[41:29] I understand some residents were cons or
[41:32] were confused. They believed that that
[41:35] was the rear yard increase from 1.8 to
[41:37] 9.8
[41:41] when actually the interior sideyard
[41:43] remained the same. It was proposed at
[41:45] 1.8. It remains at 1.8. Yes, it abuts
[41:49] their rear yards,
[41:51] but based on our definition, it's an
[41:53] interior sideyard, which our requirement
[41:55] is actually zero. We want all the
[41:57] buildings along King to abut each other.
[42:01] Um the applicant is actually proposing
[42:02] 1.8 eight all along the property line.
[42:06] So even at King um to gain access to
[42:09] interior courtyard that they have so
[42:11] people could come off King or residents
[42:13] of the building could come off King to
[42:16] access that interior courtyard.
[42:18] Um if anyone has questions about the
[42:21] specific amendments, I'd be happy to
[42:23] answer them.
[42:25] » Any anyone questions?
[42:29] I understand councelor
[42:32] um Wales that you have a small
[42:34] amendment.
[42:36] » I do. So thanks very much uh Mr.
[42:38] McInness for the for the overview. Um I
[42:41] had also heard uh some some of those
[42:42] concerns from uh from residents and
[42:44] obviously were uh were limited with um
[42:47] uh the the exceptions that um uh sorry
[42:50] not the exceptions uh but with the the
[42:53] requirements uh that we can impose on a
[42:55] on a developer. um there's not much that
[42:57] we can impose that's beyond uh what's
[42:59] already on the property. However, uh in
[43:02] the zoning for the property, however,
[43:04] what's been proposed in the project uh
[43:07] maintains that um minimum setback of 1.8
[43:10] m for the interior sideyard. Uh as of
[43:12] right now, it's only 0 m uh in the
[43:16] zoning bylaw. So my proposed amendment
[43:19] uh would read that uh uh there be an
[43:22] increase to the minimum interior
[43:24] sideyard setback from 0.0 meters to 1.8
[43:28] m which is what's called for in the
[43:30] plan. This is just about making sure
[43:32] that what's proposed is matching what's
[43:34] going to be included uh in the the
[43:36] zoning bylaw. Uh so I hope I would have
[43:39] the support of uh of council on that
[43:41] amendment. I'll write it up and bring it
[43:43] over to the clerk. Uh, but if there's
[43:45] any questions, um, uh, Mr. McInness
[43:48] might be able to type.
[43:52] » Um, I'm sorry.
[43:54] » Yes. Can we have a seconder on the
[43:56] amendment?
[43:57] » Got councelor Hobbs.
[43:58] » Councelor Hobbs. Yeah.
[44:01] Um, Councelor Earl, did you comment?
[44:05] » Yeah. Um, I was speaking with councelor
[44:09] Wales uh prior to the meeting and
[44:12] although I don't have any specific
[44:15] um objections to making the the sideyard
[44:20] wider, but I understand that it's a on
[44:24] the side that would abut the rear of the
[44:27] houses on on Apple Street.
[44:31] So my question is is is not an aesthetic
[44:34] or a political question
[44:38] at 1.8 8 m is about 6 feet give or take
[44:42] a little bit for some of the metric and
[44:44] some of us are not the so in a sixft
[44:48] thing down there and if it's a sidewalk
[44:50] that means there's going to be an old
[44:52] foundation of the building
[44:55] to the rear of it on Apple Street
[44:58] and a new foundation of the new building
[45:02] on that encompasses the rest of the
[45:05] block
[45:06] and so it doesn't come down to an to a
[45:10] aesthetic question or a political
[45:12] question. I I guess what I was wondering
[45:14] was is when I'm starting to put two
[45:17] foundations 6 feet apart and having to
[45:20] drain the water out of that because uh
[45:22] you know even city council can't make
[45:24] water flow uphill.
[45:26] um
[45:29] you know uh just what that meant
[45:31] engineering wise to to the project as
[45:33] opposed to you know the setbacks and
[45:36] stuff because that would you know if we
[45:39] look at King Street all the buildings
[45:41] are right up against each other so
[45:43] there's you know they don't erode each
[45:45] other's foundation the building the of
[45:49] some many of the buildings that are
[45:51] along
[45:52] uh home street or or Apple street are
[45:55] they're not new buildings. They're old,
[45:57] old buildings. And I just want to make
[45:59] sure that, you know, when we're
[46:02] opening up sideyards and we're opening
[46:04] up access for moisture to go in those,
[46:06] that we aren't indeed eroding some of
[46:08] the old foundations, you know, we think
[46:11] we're doing a good thing making space in
[46:12] there, but would we be doing a bad thing
[46:15] eroding their foundations and and then
[46:18] leaving only six feet for someone to go
[46:20] in and try and put a new foundation in?
[46:22] So, so it's not a it's not an aesthetic
[46:25] question. I don't have a problem with
[46:26] having the six feet in there, but I I I
[46:29] think before we pass this, we should ask
[46:31] an engineering question whether it's a
[46:33] good idea, have six feet of open space
[46:36] in there and where the water from that's
[46:38] going to go and it won't go in the
[46:40] foundations of the the buildings on
[46:42] Apple Street and stuff. So, I I think
[46:44] there, you know, aesthetic wise, I don't
[46:47] have any issues with it, but I' I'd like
[46:49] to make sure I'm not building in an
[46:51] engineering problem.
[46:55] Mr. McGinness, do you have
[46:57] » Uh three, Madam Chair, I'm not an
[46:59] engineer, so I can't specifically
[47:01] address that. Um I believe what
[47:03] councelor Wales is looking to propose is
[47:07] a minimum setback. That may increase
[47:10] once the final design does come forward.
[47:13] Um,
[47:16] one thing they could do, there's
[47:18] swailes, there's drainage they could run
[47:20] along that. They could possibly go
[47:23] through the foundation and tie into
[47:24] their existing system in the parking
[47:26] lot. Um, I can't answer. I'm not an
[47:29] engineer.
[47:30] » Yeah.
[47:30] » Um,
[47:30] » We're not there yet.
[47:32] » There's It'll be done at the site plan
[47:34] design stage where our engineers will
[47:36] look at it. Um, but in today's age, you
[47:40] can engineer anything.
[47:42] » Yeah. Yeah. So
[47:45] » I I mentioned it because I know of at
[47:46] least one problem on King Street where
[47:49] new building an old building a butt and
[47:51] water going into the old building's
[47:53] basement and and you know the the person
[47:56] going to gain the biggest advantage over
[47:58] that it's going to be the lawyers to
[47:59] settle it. So um I was hoping that
[48:03] getting the engineering before we do
[48:05] this would prevent the uh legal action
[48:09] in the future. So that that that's the
[48:11] that's the intent of of the question and
[48:14] and why I would like not to, you know,
[48:17] » Run off willy-nilly without uh without
[48:20] » You'll bring it up again when we're at
[48:22] site plan approval.
[48:24] » Yeah. Well, I think it, you know, if
[48:27] there's six feet in between, I think it
[48:29] might might be a good thing for building
[48:31] maintenance, but if it causes the water
[48:34] to to stay in there and go into
[48:36] somebody's basement, then well, that
[48:37] could be a bad thing.
[48:38] » Yeah. Understood. Yes.
[48:40] » May I? So, just the um the uh I just
[48:44] wanted to note the applicant is in the
[48:46] gallery. Uh and I wonder if we could
[48:48] hear from them because my intent here is
[48:50] just to recognize what's called for in
[48:52] the plan that's been proposed in the
[48:54] zoning bile. There's no change. Uh so, I
[48:57] just wonder if if with the consent of of
[48:59] council, we could hear confirmation uh
[49:01] from from the applicant that you know
[49:03] what's uh what's being proposed that 1.8
[49:06] back is okay.
[49:08] No. Yeah, please.
[49:12] » Thank you. I'm I am an engineer. Uh so
[49:15] this will be dealt with at site plan
[49:16] control. Uh this is just a storm water
[49:19] management issue for uh any water that
[49:21] uh isn't uh captured already inside the
[49:23] building. Uh so all the rain runoff is
[49:26] what your your concern is. Uh those six
[49:28] feet uh will likely have storm water
[49:31] management control systems that will
[49:32] direct the water instead of down. it'll
[49:35] go around and into a uh either the
[49:38] municipal, you know, already storm water
[49:40] system or our systems and then pump it
[49:42] back out. Uh this will be dealt with uh
[49:45] at that point. We don't want to erode
[49:46] our own foundation
[49:48] » Uh and uh and andor our underground
[49:51] parking
[49:52] » Uh which will likely already have some
[49:53] type of way to control water runoff. So
[49:56] the act the space actually allows us to
[49:58] better deal with it quite frankly.
[50:00] » Yeah.
[50:00] » Yeah.
[50:01] » Thank you. Perfect. Then yeah, it's just
[50:02] again it's residents said, you know,
[50:04] they've got walls, they've got rears of
[50:06] their own buildings. I think it would
[50:08] provide some some comfort that, you
[50:10] know, this is in the zoning bylaw moving
[50:12] forward.
[50:12] » Yes. Yes.
[50:15] » Yes. So, um I I wonder if we can get Mr.
[50:19] um McGinness to comment on the
[50:21] amendment.
[50:26] » Sure. Through you, Madam Chair. Um
[50:29] increasing the sideyard setback
[50:32] no concern from us. Um the only
[50:37] thing that I can see is
[50:40] by imposing that it takes away the
[50:43] applicant's ability if they wanted to
[50:47] to build it directly abuing the manpower
[50:51] building at the front. So you will see a
[50:54] gap along King Street if you do impose
[50:57] that.
[50:58] » Yes. And in in terms of our city
[51:01] aesthetics, we just assume not have
[51:04] alleyways if we had our DRS.
[51:08] » That that is why we do have a zero
[51:11] minimum sideyard. We don't we don't make
[51:13] them build it at zero. Otherwise, it
[51:15] would be maximum of zero.
[51:17] » Yeah,
[51:17] » We have a minimum of zero. So, it would
[51:19] still be meeting it.
[51:21] » But if the applicant did decide at the
[51:23] design stage to move it over, that's no
[51:25] longer a possibility.
[51:27] » Yeah. So if the
[51:30] So if we get down the road and it's site
[51:33] plan like we'd have to come back here
[51:35] and change the rules if the applicant
[51:38] decided
[51:40] whereas the way it's written right now
[51:43] we wouldn't have to do anything. It's at
[51:46] his option because it's just simply says
[51:49] um uh minimum and we wouldn't have to
[51:54] there'd be no hurdles.
[51:56] Yes, please.
[51:57] » Uh, three, Madam Chair. I do know that
[51:59] the applicant though does want a
[52:01] staircase, which we already see there go
[52:04] leading into the parking lot
[52:05] » Um for their residents to access the
[52:07] courtyard to get into their units rather
[52:10] than using the front of the building.
[52:11] » Yeah.
[52:11] » If they wish to.
[52:14] » Yes. You're you're pretty sure they're
[52:15] going to want it.
[52:16] » Yes.
[52:17] » Yes. Yes. All right.
[52:22] » Any Yes, please. Just I'll ask if if
[52:24] that is a concern, is there a way to
[52:26] word the amendment that we're just
[52:28] talking about the properties at the
[52:29] back? Because again, that is where the
[52:31] concern comes from, right? That there
[52:33] are stone walls in the lower half of of
[52:35] of Apple Street. Although again, I
[52:38] haven't specifically heard from uh the
[52:40] the owner of the building at the front
[52:41] of King Street. Maybe they don't want
[52:43] their buildings touching either. I'm not
[52:45] sure. So, I think this is just about
[52:47] codifying in the zoning bylaw. are we
[52:50] going to see built what we're getting uh
[52:52] in the proposal that we're seeing during
[52:54] the zoning uh review process which I
[52:56] think is important. I think a building
[52:58] of this size probably shouldn't move
[53:00] over um you know 2.4 meters and um again
[53:04] 1.8 is minimum right it is larger in
[53:06] some places and at the alley I think it
[53:08] is called to be larger it's 2 point uh
[53:11] people
[53:12] » So from your perspective your your
[53:14] amendment gives some comfort to some of
[53:17] the concerns that the residents have as
[53:19] well that there were residents that are
[53:21] concerned that they're going to have
[53:24] this new structure abuing their um their
[53:27] own property
[53:28] » That's been my reading of it and again
[53:30] it's just about making sure that what we
[53:32] have had proposed is what we're going to
[53:34] that if there were a new property owner
[53:36] down the road, somebody wanted to change
[53:38] that that they would have to come back.
[53:40] » Yeah. Thank you.
[53:41] » Okay. Okay. Any other uh questions or
[53:44] comments? Um yes, councelor Earl.
[53:46] » Yeah, I I just wanted to thank uh you
[53:49] for your for your answer because we
[53:51] already have one acquitarium in
[53:52] Brockful. I didn't want to start a new
[53:54] one. So
[53:58] So thank you for your answer.
[54:00] » Okay.
[54:03] Uh any other questions or comments
[54:05] related to the amendment?
[54:08] Okay, seeing none, we'll call the
[54:10] question on the amendment.
[54:11] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the amendment
[54:12] before you, councelor Deiri, how do you
[54:14] vote?
[54:15] » Yes.
[54:15] » Councelor Earl,
[54:19] » Yes.
[54:20] » Councelor Hops,
[54:21] » Yes.
[54:22] » Councelor Calvas,
[54:23] » Yes.
[54:23] » Councelor Leverne,
[54:24] » Yes.
[54:26] » Councelor Wales,
[54:27] » Yes.
[54:27] » And Chair Fullerton,
[54:28] » Yes.
[54:29] » That's carried. Thank you.
[54:30] » Okay. Thank you. So then moving on to
[54:32] the um uh to the motion. Uh questions or
[54:36] comments related to the motion as
[54:39] amended?
[54:41] Seeing none. Oh yes, councelor.
[54:46] Not another amendment. Uh but just to to
[54:49] thank uh all the residents who
[54:50] participated in the process. Again, uh I
[54:52] know that it's uh uh sometimes
[54:54] intimidating to come to council and uh
[54:56] speak your your voice and and put
[54:58] forward your concerns. Um, I hope that
[55:00] uh um you know, obviously uh some
[55:05] residents uh didn't get everything that
[55:07] they were looking for from the amended
[55:09] proposal, but I did appreciate that
[55:11] there was an amendment to the rear uh uh
[55:13] sideyard to make the building footprint
[55:15] a little bit smaller. Uh so, it's a
[55:18] potential compromise for for the
[55:20] neighborhood, but I'm excited about the
[55:22] project and I hope that it will go
[55:23] forward. Yeah, I think there's a quote
[55:25] to that effect that, you know, you got a
[55:27] good deal when, uh, everybody had to
[55:29] give a little bit, nobody's 100% happy.
[55:32] I will say though, um, in terms of the
[55:35] city, um, we're happy. That's a that's
[55:38] been a property that's been
[55:40] underutilized
[55:42] um for you know and it always was uh
[55:45] commercial and uh a vibrant corner and
[55:49] uh and then suddenly uh because of that
[55:52] catastrophic fire um empty and empty for
[55:55] decades and decades uh you know since
[55:58] since ' 65. So, um, this is an exciting,
[56:03] uh, project for us. 128, uh, living
[56:07] units for the city of Brockville. Very,
[56:09] very important. We need them. Um, you
[56:14] know, so, you know, we just wish we wish
[56:16] the applicant every success with getting
[56:19] it built and getting it built quickly
[56:21] because, um, I think it's going to be
[56:23] very good for our downtown uh, core to
[56:25] have that many people um, uh, additional
[56:28] people living there. That's great for
[56:30] business. That's that's really good for
[56:32] everything uh in Brockville. So, um uh I
[56:36] think it's a very exciting project and
[56:38] uh you know, thanks for um investing in
[56:41] Brockville. It's a great thing for us.
[56:43] Yeah. Um are there any other questions
[56:46] or comments before we call the question?
[56:49] Seeing none, we'll call them.
[56:51] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter
[56:52] before you, Councelor Deir, how do you
[56:53] vote?
[56:54] » Yes.
[56:55] » Councelor Earl?
[56:57] » Yes.
[56:57] » Councelor Hobbs? Yes.
[56:59] » Councelor Calvac.
[57:00] » Yes.
[57:01] » Councelor Leverne.
[57:02] » Yes.
[57:03] » Councelor Wales.
[57:04] » Yes.
[57:04] » Chair Fullerton.
[57:06] » Yes.
[57:06] » That's carried. Thank you.
[57:09] » Thank you. Um uh moving on. And u please
[57:13] don't feel don't feel that you're being
[57:15] rude if you leave the if you leave the
[57:17] the uh the meeting. We're not offended
[57:20] by that at all.
[57:21] » Thank you very much. Appreciate the
[57:22] support.
[57:23] » Thank you. Um, so moving on to the
[57:27] general committee. Uh, councelor Deiri,
[57:29] would you move the motion and councelor
[57:32] uh, Hops, would you second? Yes. Thank
[57:34] you.
[57:36] » Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. The general
[57:38] consent uh, sorry, general meeting
[57:40] consent agenda, all matters listed under
[57:42] consent agenda are considered to be
[57:43] routine, will be enacted by one motion.
[57:46] Should a council member wish to an
[57:48] alternative action from the proposed
[57:49] recommendation, the council member shall
[57:51] request that this matter be moved.
[57:53] separated the item uh that the following
[57:56] items as listed on the general committee
[57:57] are recommended by the committee to be
[58:00] passed by consent agenda. Was anything
[58:02] needed to be removed?
[58:06] » Seeing none.
[58:14] » Um I'm sorry, Madam Chair. Which ones
[58:16] did you want me to read through?
[58:18] » Um uh one through five, please.
[58:20] » 1 through five. 2025-124
[58:23] budgetary control policy amendments at
[58:25] policy PF uh20.181
[58:28] budgetary control policy be updated and
[58:31] outlined in report 2025-124.
[58:34] Number two is 2025125
[58:37] procurement policy amendment. The
[58:39] procurement policy uh PLF20139
[58:43] be updated as outlined in report
[58:45] 2025-125.
[58:47] 2025-132
[58:49] July 2025 variance report that report
[58:52] 2025132 July 2025 variance report be
[58:56] received. Item 2025133
[58:59] is the airport terminal design that
[59:01] additional project expenses in the
[59:02] amount of 4511 be approved and funded by
[59:06] reserves to complete the airport
[59:07] terminal engineering design capital
[59:09] project in accordance with the results
[59:11] of public tender 250054.
[59:14] And lastly number five information item
[59:17] 2025130 which is the Reynolds Park
[59:19] Pavilion tender update. This report is
[59:21] for information purposes only.
[59:25] bill and we'll call a question.
[59:28] » Thank you. On the matters before you,
[59:30] Councelor Jerry, how do you vote?
[59:31] » Yes.
[59:32] » Councelor Earl,
[59:33] » Yes.
[59:33] » Councelor Hobs,
[59:34] » Yes.
[59:35] » Councelor Calabas,
[59:36] » Yes.
[59:36] » Councelor Leverne,
[59:37] » Yes.
[59:38] » Councelor Wales,
[59:39] » Yes.
[59:40] » Chair Fullerton,
[59:41] » Yes.
[59:41] » Carrie, thank you.
[59:43] » Moving on to uh new business. Um th this
[59:47] is the part of the agenda where those um
[59:49] committee those council members that sit
[59:51] on committees have an opportunity to
[59:53] bring a report and if there's nothing
[59:56] new since our our last meeting that's
[59:59] completely fine. So we have um the BMAC.
[1:00:03] So uh councelor Hobbs anything new?
[1:00:05] » No nothing new on that.
[1:00:06] » No thank you. Uh uh Katarok Way
[1:00:10] Conservation Authority.
[1:00:14] The next meeting is in August. So, yeah.
[1:00:16] » Okay. Very good. Uh St. Lawrence Lodge,
[1:00:20] uh Councelor Calabas,
[1:00:22] » Nothing to report at this time.
[1:00:23] » Yep. Thank you. Uh the the library, I I
[1:00:28] can say that there's nothing um new
[1:00:31] since the last report, unless you want
[1:00:34] to highlight some more summer programs.
[1:00:35] Councelor Wales,
[1:00:36] » Everybody should get a library card and
[1:00:38] go take advantage of the summer
[1:00:39] programs. And uh we're meeting next
[1:00:41] week, so we might have something uh at
[1:00:43] the next council meeting. Thank you.
[1:00:45] » Oh, we should mention that now they do
[1:00:47] have their schedule out for renting of
[1:00:49] meeting rooms. So I think that's
[1:00:51] important if you're looking for meeting
[1:00:53] space. It's still a good deal.
[1:00:56] » Good catch. Thank you. Yes. Yes. I
[1:00:58] » I would add that there are other
[1:01:00] information sources than Facebook.
[1:01:05] » Absolutely. Um the uh the um DBIA
[1:01:12] councelor Derry, is there anything?
[1:01:14] » Just the u update again. I think it was
[1:01:16] mentioned earlier that Saturday, August
[1:01:17] 16th from 10 to 4 is the next shop the
[1:01:20] street event. It's called a fairy tale
[1:01:23] fantasy. So I hope that we can get a
[1:01:24] good turnout. We had a really good
[1:01:26] turnout at our last one in July. So hope
[1:01:28] for uh another one of those great great
[1:01:30] days and hopefully the weather will
[1:01:32] cooperate.
[1:01:33] » Thank you. Um, so moving on, there's no
[1:01:36] unfinished business. The bylaws are um
[1:01:40] are in the agenda and can be uh read
[1:01:42] there. So for the reading of the bylaws,
[1:01:45] councelor Calivas, um would you read
[1:01:47] them and read the motion and councelor
[1:01:50] Leverne, would you second?
[1:01:52] » Yes. Thank you.
[1:01:54] » Thank you. uh that bylaws numbered 058
[1:01:57] uh 2025 to 063 2025 be introduced and
[1:02:00] the same now be read a first second
[1:02:02] third time signed by the mayor and clerk
[1:02:04] sealed with the seal of the corporation
[1:02:05] and be recorded.
[1:02:06] » So uh all those in favor
[1:02:09] that's carried. Thank you. Media
[1:02:11] question period.
[1:02:14] » Uh thank you and through you madam
[1:02:15] chair. I just had one question about the
[1:02:17] next steps for the dailies lot. I was
[1:02:19] just wondering what's what's kind of
[1:02:20] coming next for um for that project.
[1:02:23] Great. Could you take that one?
[1:02:27] » Certainly. Through you, Madam Chair, to
[1:02:30] uh the press. Um, so now there's a 20 or
[1:02:34] sorry, after Friday, there will be a
[1:02:37] 20-day appeal period uh where specified
[1:02:40] persons, municipality, ourselves, the
[1:02:43] applicant could appeal to the Ontario
[1:02:45] Land Tribunal if they wish. Uh if
[1:02:47] there's no appeal after 20 days, then uh
[1:02:50] the applicant could apply for site plan
[1:02:52] control, which can take anywhere from 14
[1:02:56] days to
[1:02:58] however long because once they submit
[1:03:01] drawings, we may send them back for
[1:03:03] amendments. Then it's in their hands. So
[1:03:06] timing on that, we never know. um after
[1:03:09] site plans executed and cash and move
[1:03:12] parking, cash and move park land are
[1:03:14] executed, they could apply for a permit.
[1:03:18] So hopefully next spring, I'm sure they
[1:03:21] wouldn't start this fall. That's
[1:03:23] probably not not enough time for them,
[1:03:25] but next spring probably hopefully we'll
[1:03:27] see something.
[1:03:30] » Great. Councelor Wales,
[1:03:31] » I just wonder if Mr. Lawless could
[1:03:33] identify himself uh for the for all the
[1:03:35] folks at home and
[1:03:36] » Oh, yes, please. Oh yes, my first
[1:03:38] Brockville Council meeting. Uh, I'm
[1:03:39] filling in for Ron Zjac, who's on
[1:03:41] vacation. My name is John Lawless and
[1:03:43] I'm a reporter with the Recorder in
[1:03:44] Times.
[1:03:46] » Nice to meet you in person. We have
[1:03:48] spoken.
[1:03:50] Welcome.
[1:03:52] Um, confirmatory bylaw. Councelor Earl,
[1:03:55] would you read that? And councelor
[1:03:57] Wales, would you second?
[1:03:59] » I will.
[1:04:00] » Thank you.
[1:04:02] That bylaw number 064-2025
[1:04:05] to confirm the proceedings of council at
[1:04:08] its meeting held July 22nd 2025 be read
[1:04:11] a first a second and a third time signed
[1:04:15] by the mayor the clerk and seal will bal
[1:04:18] the corporation and be recordings.
[1:04:20] » All those in favor that's carried uh
[1:04:24] motion to adjurnn. Councelor Calivas
[1:04:26] will you move that and councelor Deiri
[1:04:28] would you second? I will.
[1:04:31] » Thank you.
[1:04:32] » Thank you. It's uh moved that council
[1:04:34] adjourn his proceedings until the next
[1:04:35] regular meeting scheduled for August
[1:04:37] 19th, 2025.
[1:04:41] » All those in favor?
[1:04:43] That's carried. Thank you everyone.