[1:00] Good evening and welcome to the council [1:01] meeting of Tuesday, August 25th, 2026. [1:04] We will begin with our land [1:05] acknowledgement statement. We would like [1:07] to acknowledge the land on which we meet [1:08] today. For thousands of years, it has [1:10] been the traditional land of the [1:11] Alangquin nation. Today, this meeting [1:13] place is still the home to many [1:14] indigenous people, and we are grateful [1:16] to have the opportunity to live and work [1:18] on this land. Thank you. [1:22] » Uh good evening everyone and welcome to [1:24] our council meeting. Uh I'm I'm uh [1:28] sitting in this evening for uh um uh his [1:32] worship. Uh as you're all aware, a [1:35] couple of weeks ago um our mayor had a [1:38] mild uh stroke. Uh he's uh recovering [1:42] very well at home. I spoke with him at [1:44] length this afternoon about um uh the [1:48] agenda uh tonight and also um he wanted [1:52] me to convey uh uh to you as a council [1:56] but also to the citizens uh his [1:58] gratitude for how kind everyone's been, [2:00] the various supportive messages that [2:02] he's received and and all the kindness [2:04] and certainly again to reiterate um how [2:08] grateful uh he is to the staff at the [2:11] Brockl General hospital and to the [2:13] emergency responders who um were so uh [2:17] important in making sure he's um come [2:20] out of this and going to uh have a full [2:22] recovery. So um he sounds uh really [2:26] good. He said a little bit fatigued, but [2:28] other than that uh very upbeat and very [2:30] interested in what we're um doing here [2:32] and wanted to um make sure that a few of [2:35] the things that are coming through [2:36] tonight that he could have his um input [2:40] into that. So, um, anyway, wanted to say [2:44] just, you know, thank you so much and [2:46] we're all, uh, you know, so grateful [2:49] that he's had such a, um, marvelous [2:51] outcome to, um, to the incident that [2:54] he's encountered. And it speaks to the [2:57] support that a few years ago we gave to [2:59] the Brockville General Hospital. And I [3:01] remember when we when we were talking [3:02] about that, you know, I was saying that [3:05] at any time any citizen in this city [3:09] could need the services of the Broville [3:11] General Hospital. So I think it really [3:12] is important that when they when they [3:15] need help from their municipality that [3:16] we do step up and this council uh did [3:19] and I'm proud that we did. But this is [3:22] um this just sort of shows you when it [3:24] hits very close to home as part of our [3:26] team that these services are very needed [3:29] and um you know uh just uh wonderful [3:33] that we have the the facility that we do [3:35] and the excellent care that we're able [3:37] to receive um right here in Brockville. [3:40] So uh it's it's excellent. [3:43] Um [3:46] he wanted me to mention a few things but [3:48] I'm going to mention it later under uh [3:50] the item about the um uh the crosswalk [3:53] because he was very instrumental in [3:55] bringing that initiative uh forward. So [3:58] he had just had a little bit of [3:59] background um on that that he wanted to [4:01] make sure that was uh shared in um at [4:04] the at the council meeting. Uh so the [4:08] other thing that's happened this week of [4:10] course is that the nomination period [4:12] closed for the upcoming election [4:16] and because um we're going to be in a [4:19] minority in terms of returning officers [4:22] 100% for um for sure um I mean it could [4:25] be a full turnover of uh of council. the [4:28] electors of course will decide but uh we [4:31] will be going into lame duck and I've [4:33] asked the city manager if she'd just [4:34] take a minute and explain um uh to [4:39] everyone what the impact of lame duck [4:41] is. [4:43] » Thank you through you madame chair. Uh [4:46] so lame duck situation is encountered in [4:48] a municipality when less than 75% of the [4:52] current council may be returning. So in [4:55] our case it's seven. So we know we have [4:58] far less than seven incumbents running [5:00] in this next election. So that does put [5:02] us in a lame duck or restricted acts uh [5:05] period. So under the restricted acts in [5:08] the municipal act there's a couple of [5:09] things that are four things actually the [5:13] there means that the appointment or [5:15] removal from office of any officer of [5:17] the municipality. So meaning the the [5:19] clerk, the uh treasurer, the chief [5:22] building official, uh myself as city [5:25] manager, those things cannot happen, but [5:28] I'll talk about how it can happen or may [5:30] need to happen. the hiring or dismissal [5:32] of any employee of the municipality. [5:36] The disposition of any real uh or [5:39] personal property and uh [5:44] yes, the disposition of property which [5:46] has a value exceeding $50,000 [5:50] and making any expenditure or incurring [5:52] any liability greater than $50,000. So, [5:56] of those four things, I'll just fill you [5:58] in on how each of them can be handled [6:00] during this lame duck period. With [6:02] regard to the appointment or removal [6:03] from office of any officer of the [6:05] municipality in our case in the city of [6:08] Brockville, the only officer that is [6:11] hired or fired through council is the [6:14] city manager's position. So, everything [6:17] else including all the other employees [6:19] are under my authority to hire and or [6:22] fire. So that has been delegated [6:25] previously through my job description [6:27] and other means. So that will continue [6:29] as it needs to happen in the next few [6:32] months. With regard to the disposition [6:35] of property, uh we don't foresee any [6:38] property needing to be uh disposed of in [6:41] the next peri next little period of [6:43] time. But if something should happen [6:45] that it becomes necessary, then I have [6:49] been delegated authority in order to be [6:52] able to manage that process. And that's [6:54] the same with any other experience uh [6:57] expenditures or incurring liability [6:59] greater than $50,000 that is not in the [7:03] budget. So, for example, if we had an [7:05] emergency and we had to to expend [7:08] greater than $50,000, I have that within [7:10] my authority to make those uh purchases [7:14] or incur those liabilities. So, [7:17] in other words, we're going to continue [7:19] pretty much as normal for the next few [7:21] months. And when the new council is [7:23] installed on November 15th, there will [7:26] be will be little to no changes uh other [7:29] than the the people that will be in this [7:31] room. So hope if I'd be happy to answer [7:34] any questions if there are any. [7:35] Otherwise uh that's the explanation. [7:38] » Yeah. Very very good. If the media has [7:39] any questions um please um uh we'll we [7:42] would handle that at the end of the [7:43] meeting. But is there anybody on the [7:45] council floor that has a question for [7:47] the city manager about the lame duck [7:49] period? Seeing none, we'll move on. Uh [7:52] disclosure of uh pecuniary interest. [7:56] Seeing none. Uh adoption of council [7:59] minutes. Uh, councelor Calivas, would [8:01] you move those and councelor Severson, [8:03] would you second? [8:05] » Thank you. Uh, it's moved that the [8:06] minutes of the council meeting of July [8:08] 28, 2026 be adopted. [8:11] » Uh, thank you. And I see councelor Earl [8:13] has also just uh joined us um via Zoom. [8:17] Uh, [8:19] any questions or comments? Seeing none, [8:22] uh, by show of hands, all those in [8:24] favor? That's carried. Thank you. [8:26] Correspondence and communications. [8:28] Councelor Wales, I wonder if you would [8:30] put the first appointments to boards and [8:33] committees uh motion on and councelor [8:34] Hobbes, would you second? [8:38] » Thank you, Madam Chair. So, uh this is [8:40] appointments to boards and committees [8:41] regarding the aquitarium that the [8:43] resignation of Barry Moss and Larry [8:45] Journal from the aquitarium board be [8:47] accepted and that councelor Fullerton [8:49] and councelor Deiri be appointed to the [8:51] aquitarium board and that the necessary [8:53] bylaw be enacted. And I just wonder if I [8:55] could say a few words of sincere uh [8:58] thanks and appreciation uh to both Barry [9:01] Moss and Larry Journal uh for their long [9:03] service uh on the Aquitarium board. Um I [9:07] have always appreciated their insights [9:08] at the table and and Barry certainly his [9:10] leadership uh in the chair's position. [9:12] So they're both deeply missed but uh [9:15] wished well after a a deserved [9:17] retirement from the board. Uh and of [9:20] course my thanks to uh you for stepping [9:23] into the board at this time and also uh [9:25] Phil for for stepping in as well. Thank [9:27] you. [9:28] » Yeah, great. Um yeah, happy to help and [9:30] uh yeah, I would echo those sentiments. [9:32] Certainly both those uh gentlemen have [9:34] served on the aquitarium for quite some [9:36] time and have done some things that are [9:38] um have been u very instrumental in [9:41] making the equatorium a success. So well [9:43] yes, they have our our thanks for sure. [9:46] Um, any other questions, comments? [9:49] Seeing none, by a show of hands, all [9:51] those in favor? Carried. Thank you. Um, [9:54] item number two, councelor Deiri, would [9:56] you put that on the floor? And councelor [9:58] Hobbs, would you second? Thank you. [10:00] » Will, Madam Chair, uh, item number two [10:01] is a downtown Brockville photo op trail [10:04] and full hearts and full shelves [10:05] initiative, the downtown Brockville [10:08] business improvement area. uh that the [10:10] letter of intention related to the [10:11] downtown Brockville photo op trail and [10:13] full hearts and full shells initiative [10:15] be received and that the letter of [10:16] support be provided by city council for [10:19] inclusion in the grant funding [10:20] application. [10:21] » Yes. Uh do you want to add anything to [10:23] that? Um councelor Jerry I know you sit [10:25] on [10:25] » D. Yeah. I al I think it's one of these [10:28] uh situations where people often forget [10:31] um that many of us are very fortunate [10:33] and uh to be able to provide some [10:36] necessary meals for a lot of people in [10:38] the community who are or may be [10:40] struggling. Um I always like to remind [10:42] people that we generally do this over [10:44] the Christmas holidays, but it it you [10:46] know the the food insecure food security [10:49] issues that we have don't just happen at [10:51] Christmas, they happen all year round. [10:53] And so if you want to um if you're [10:55] thinking of ways to give, this is a [10:56] great way to do it. We have food drives [10:58] that go on as well. So this is just one [11:00] other tool we have that we can help very [11:02] vulnerable part of our community. So I'm [11:04] happy to put this on the [11:05] » Yeah. Yeah. [11:06] » I think both these things are wonderful [11:07] initiatives. I like the idea of the um [11:10] of the um um photo op um locations as [11:14] well. Um my daughter and her family have [11:16] just been on an extended uh tour and uh [11:19] so many uh countries and cities have [11:21] different um specifically set up um [11:24] places in their towns to go to uh to [11:27] have a picture taken so you know exactly [11:29] where you've been and uh I think this is [11:31] a great idea for our our downtown core [11:34] and I'm sure we'll bring people down to [11:36] um uh yeah to visit us so that'll be a [11:39] good thing. Any other questions or [11:41] comments related to the motion? Seeing [11:43] none, um, by show of hands, all those in [11:45] favor? [11:47] Carried. Thank you. Uh, item number [11:50] three, uh, Councelor Wales, would you [11:52] put that on the floor? And councelor [11:54] Sepherson, would you second? Thank you. [11:56] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Integrity [11:58] Commissioner's annual report, July 2025 [12:00] to July 2026 from the Office of the [12:03] Integrity Commissioner that Council of [12:05] the Corporation of the City of Brock [12:06] receive the Integrity Commissioner's [12:08] annual report for information. [12:10] » Great. Thank you. Um, as the report [12:13] states, this is a uh um an annual thing [12:17] that um every year we have to have a a [12:20] report. It isn't that there's any [12:21] unusual activity. It's that um every [12:23] year the integrity commissioner um makes [12:26] the report um about um what the [12:28] complaints were and what the activity [12:30] was in that particular file. Are there [12:32] any questions or comments? [12:34] Seeing Seeing none, we'll call a [12:37] question. All those in favor? [12:40] That's carried. Thank you. Um, moving on [12:44] to staff reports. Councelor Calivas, [12:46] would you put the first item on and [12:48] councelor Deiri, would you second? [12:51] » Thank you. who would uh move that the [12:52] fire protection grant, fire hall, bunker [12:56] gear separation and contamination [12:58] control, that the fire chief be [13:00] authorized to prepare and submit an [13:03] application to the province of Ontario [13:04] for the fire protection grant to support [13:07] the renovation of a section of the main [13:10] floor of fire station number one. [13:14] » Um, thank you. Are there any questions [13:16] or comments related to the report? [13:20] Yes. [13:20] » I just wonder if we could get a brief [13:22] overview from [13:23] » Certainly. Thank you. [13:30] » Through you. Um the Ministry of Labor [13:33] had put forth cancer prevention [13:35] guidelines for uh firefighters because [13:38] they are very at very high risk for [13:41] cancer. Generally, they're about I think [13:43] it's 25 to 30% more likely to die of [13:46] cancer than general uh population. So, [13:50] these Ministry of uh labor guidelines [13:52] are what we're supposed to be having in [13:53] the fire halls that will give the basic [13:55] minimum protection to control [13:58] contaminants. Uh every time they're in a [14:00] fire or even at a a car fire, some of [14:02] that that stuff comes back to the hall [14:05] and it's on their gear. So, that's why [14:07] they have to have two sets of gear so [14:08] they can wash one and still have another [14:10] to respond. The problem is if it comes [14:12] back to the hall and it's just sitting [14:13] in the back bay without being contained, [14:16] then those contaminants are coming off [14:17] and infecting anybody that comes into [14:19] its path. So, as you know, our newest [14:22] hall is over 30 years old and our oldest [14:24] one's 116 [14:26] years old. So, the uh the modern uh flow [14:31] of contamin decontamination is not [14:33] there. So, this is a small step, but [14:35] it's a fairly important one to be able [14:37] to provide a barrier and negative [14:39] pressure so that the the gear can go in [14:41] there, the contaminants can be taken out [14:44] and not exposed to the rest of the [14:46] firefighters. [14:47] » Yeah. Thank you. Yes, Councelor Wells. [14:50] » Thanks very much. Thanks, Chief. And um [14:52] glad to hear that there's a a a grant uh [14:55] program available uh for us to uh to [14:57] take advantage of hopefully. So, uh we [15:00] appreciate you bringing this forward. I [15:01] I certainly uh would say and um I think [15:04] you know as obviously the the history of [15:06] the fire service has progressed we've [15:08] learned more about how to keep members [15:09] safe and what the risks are and how we [15:11] have to respond differently to keep [15:12] members safe. Uh so I appreciate the the [15:15] work that you're doing to make sure that [15:16] happens. Thank you. [15:18] » Chief Jones, as I read the report, I [15:20] wondered is this a fixed dollar um grant [15:22] or is it a proportion uh grant? And I [15:26] wondered what the city's um share would [15:28] be. [15:28] » So this is year three of the grant. The [15:31] first year it was 10 million divided [15:32] amongst over 400 fire departments. Next [15:35] year it's 20 and we our portion was [15:38] approximately I think it was 37 and [15:40] change and we use that for bunker gear [15:42] last year [15:43] » And this year is 20 million as well. So [15:46] I would expect we would get the same [15:47] amount. So it's a fixed amount based on [15:49] fire stations. [15:50] » Yeah. Yeah. And and what was the city's [15:53] share of that? Is that a 50/50 [15:55] contribution or it doesn't say or it [15:57] just depends on what the price is on [16:00] what you decide um is needed. [16:02] » It's on what we propose. So the city [16:04] share of this one would end up if we get [16:06] the 36 or 37 the total amount is 43. [16:11] » Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. [16:14] Uh any other questions or comments? [16:17] Seeing none, we'll call the question. [16:19] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter [16:20] before you, Councelor Deir, how do you [16:21] vote? [16:22] » Yes. Councelor Earl, [16:25] » Sorry, you're on mute. Mute. Yes. Okay. [16:27] Councelor Hobbs. [16:28] » Yes. [16:29] » Councelor Calvass. [16:30] » Yes. [16:30] » Councelor Severson. [16:32] » Yes. [16:32] » Councelor Wales. [16:33] » Yes. [16:33] » Chair Fullerton. [16:34] » Yes. [16:35] » That's Carrie. Thank you. [16:36] » And just indicate for our audience that [16:39] um councelor Earl is online and he [16:41] indicated by raised hand that he was uh [16:44] uh voting in favor. Uh moving on to the [16:48] next item, the um item number two. [16:51] Councelor Hobbs, would you put that on [16:53] the floor? And Councelor Severson, would [16:54] you second, please? [16:57] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, item [16:59] 2026-128, [17:01] the Veterans Memorial Crosswalk, that [17:05] council received the report for [17:07] information. [17:09] » Thank you. This is one of the items that [17:11] uh his worship and I um discussed at [17:14] length this afternoon. And uh this has [17:16] been something a pro a project that the [17:18] mayor has been working on with the uh [17:20] Brockville uh Legion. Uh this year is um [17:25] the Legion in Canada's uh centennial. So [17:28] it's 100red years old. And what's [17:30] heartening about that is that in [17:32] Brockville, it was the very next year. [17:34] So Le Legion can Canada formed 100 years [17:37] ago. Legion Brockville uh formed 99 [17:41] years ago. So next year will be their [17:42] centennial. So certainly they were [17:45] looking for um something to mark that [17:47] particular uh occasion and uh they came [17:51] up with this um uh with this idea and [17:54] the pictures in the uh package uh [17:57] capture this very well. But also if [17:59] you're on Instagram, you're starting to [18:01] see this because other cities are doing [18:02] the same thing. And so this will start [18:04] to become a national identity type of [18:07] thing that in most cities they'll they [18:09] will have a veterans um commemorative uh [18:13] walk which is uh excellent. um uh his [18:16] worship wanted you to know that um he's [18:19] been working with the Legion and [18:21] certainly they visited the site and a [18:23] number of things had to be considered in [18:25] terms of the location for this and um [18:27] one of the reasons of course that they [18:28] picked uh courthouse uh um square is [18:32] that uh it has the beautiful war [18:34] memorial. But one of the first things [18:36] that they considered was perhaps the uh [18:39] the walkway right below the um the [18:42] memorial and um in in um in consultation [18:47] with uh public works, what they realized [18:49] is that because there's so much traffic [18:51] coming down the hill and making the turn [18:54] that the painting on that sidewalk was [18:56] not likely to hold up um very well that [18:59] they would be constantly having to uh to [19:03] touch that up or replace um or or [19:06] replace the painting. And also they felt [19:08] that it might be a little bit [19:10] distracting in terms of it is a [19:12] beautiful um view and certainly when [19:15] we're down there for the um Remembrance [19:18] Day services you the whole uh city sort [19:22] of stands around the base and in the and [19:25] in the street. So um where this is going [19:28] will be behind um uh between [19:32] basically going across Broad Street. So, [19:34] it will actually create somewhat of a [19:36] little corral uh a framework, a backdrop [19:40] for that whole uh area. And I think [19:42] it'll look beautiful. But I think the uh [19:44] the thought was because it's narrower, [19:47] the street uh there was less of it uh to [19:51] do, so less less cost because it will [19:54] need to be replaced and refreshed on a [19:56] regular um basis that this was um a good [19:59] place to put it. um they consulted with [20:02] the DBIA and were um uh pleasantly [20:06] surprised that when they contacted them, [20:08] the DBIA actually had been in the [20:10] process. I assume in relation to the [20:13] other two initiatives that they were [20:15] already undertaking, they were already [20:17] had this idea and wanted to do it as [20:19] well. So they were in full support of [20:21] this um project uh going forward. So [20:24] this is um this is a project that has uh [20:27] a lot of support. has had a lot of [20:29] consultation and I think is something [20:31] that um the list of municipalities that [20:34] have one of these veteran walks in their [20:37] community uh is growing uh um very [20:40] quickly and I think um this will really [20:43] look great in our downtown Brockville [20:45] and is a wonderful way to mark the [20:47] centennial of uh the Legion's uh Canada. [20:50] Yes, councelor Sverson. [20:53] » Thank you, Madam Chair. I was just [20:54] interested if Mr. Wood would give a an [20:56] update as well. uh to uh to the design [20:59] and I'm kind of interested I saw the [21:01] municipalities that have this design of [21:04] how it's withtood winters and that and I [21:07] saw you had upkeep costs but I'm more [21:11] interested probably in the red like is [21:13] the red will the red be faded more [21:15] quickly than the rest of the design. [21:17] Thank you. [21:18] » So thank you and uh thank you madam [21:20] chair. Um it's a great question. Uh we [21:23] are somewhat sort of going to learn a [21:25] lot about this as we go. Uh as as uh [21:28] councelor Fullerton had mentioned that [21:30] we we did for this location because it [21:32] had less turning motions. We know that [21:34] regular crosswalks in the city um we can [21:36] do an application per year. It tends to [21:38] fade. We topped them up uh just before [21:41] kind of the school year. So that's been [21:42] how we do things. But we know that this [21:44] is a commemorative area and we want it [21:46] to have the distinction that of the [21:47] detail that it has. So, um, we're sort [21:50] of banking on having to touch it up [21:51] several times a year. I think in terms [21:52] of the colors, that's maybe a little [21:54] outside of my expertise in terms of [21:56] which will fade faster, but, um, but [21:59] nonetheless, we we did spend the time to [22:01] figure out that our equipment will do [22:03] this. We can get stencils to make it [22:04] happen nicely. We're going to plan to [22:06] try and hit it at least three times a [22:08] year, and maybe after the first year, [22:10] we'll say two is fine. But we are going [22:12] to certainly give this an elevated level [22:14] of service that um that hopefully [22:16] warrants the care that uh that we wanted [22:18] to present. So [22:22] » Yes, [22:23] » Oh uh councelor Earl [22:25] » Thank you uh madam chairman um this idea [22:29] it came forward a couple years ago and I [22:32] certainly 100% support it supported it [22:35] then but it never got off the ground. [22:37] Now the uh two items for it. One was uh [22:42] I noticed the background is white with [22:45] the red poppies and I I saw numerous of [22:49] the uh when we looked at this a couple [22:51] years ago where the the background was [22:54] red uh and had much more red in it. And [22:59] I was wondering because it is a road and [23:02] there are tires and there are dirt. [23:04] roads aren't necessarily the most [23:06] sanitary things. If maybe more red and [23:10] less white might be uh might be more [23:13] appropriate because uh as anybody knows [23:17] that know wears white or has a white uh [23:20] truck or something, the uh white is is a [23:23] pretty hard color to keep clean. So the [23:26] uh u just as a u as a suggestion or as a [23:33] something to look at before we do a [23:35] final on this. I would hope that we [23:37] could look at a red more more red in the [23:42] background than white just so that it [23:44] stays stays looking good. and and [23:47] certainly red poppies go with go with uh [23:53] remembrance day and the and the in the [23:55] senate half uh very well. So I I just [23:59] just ask that we look at that. I don't [24:01] know what the uh the answer is, but I [24:04] trust Mr. Wood to uh to find the right [24:08] answer for that. Uh [24:11] » The um the red in this is actually maple [24:14] leaf, not a not a poppy. uh in this [24:17] case. So I'll have uh counselor I'm [24:20] sorry [24:22] » I stand I stand corrected the original [24:24] design that when we look back then was [24:26] was poppies as opposed to maple leaf. So [24:30] um you know where where the final design [24:33] will end I don't know but [24:36] whether it's poppies or it's maple leafs [24:39] I just think red might stay cleaner on [24:41] the street than white. So, [24:43] » Well, I think the other thing that the [24:44] mayor wanted to um make sure that that I [24:48] um stressed with everyone is that the [24:51] design that we're looking at is a design [24:53] that's been approved by the Legion. The [24:55] Legion likes this design. They like the [24:58] wording. they like they've approved [25:00] everything about this and it's gone [25:01] through um them and um it you know it it [25:05] it's had their collaboration and they [25:08] are very much um part of this uh this uh [25:11] project and it's you know it's to [25:14] recognize their organization so I think [25:16] that's very important their preference [25:18] is extremely important but um director [25:20] Woods [25:23] » So so through you madam chair that's [25:24] that's precisely what I was going to add [25:25] as well is that we actually presented [25:27] maybe a dozen uh designs and asked the [25:29] Legion to say which one they like the [25:31] best. And so this was the one that they [25:33] liked the best. And one of the things [25:34] that's nice about it from I suppose the [25:36] staff the rigid staff point of view is [25:38] that all road applications are actually [25:40] very prescriptive. And one of the things [25:42] we've always shied away from is adding [25:44] any detail that isn't legislated. So the [25:46] nice thing about this is the white [25:47] ladder bars are actually what a standard [25:49] pedestrian crossover is mandated to look [25:51] like when you resurface. So our plan is [25:54] if is within the report is to resurface [25:56] this area. We've been slowly but surely [25:57] assimulating some of the brick downtown [25:59] into Asheva and where where it's been a [26:01] crossing and this will actually work [26:03] quite well for that to add the white [26:06] ladder bars that were required to and [26:08] the detail that the Legion wanted. So it [26:10] seemed to be quite suitable for them. [26:13] There was lots some that were red, some [26:14] that were quite a bit different and they [26:16] they selected this one as you mentioned. [26:18] » Yeah. [26:18] » Okay. The uh if I could follow up from [26:22] something that uh Mr. Wood just said um [26:27] we had the other thing we had talked [26:28] about when we these things and he just [26:30] mentioned that that we were motioning [26:34] transitioning from [26:36] uh the uh paving stones to asphalt in [26:40] some cases. And I'm sure everyone has [26:43] read the uh criticism of the uh of the [26:48] cement patch job. And and I and I wanted [26:50] to do two things. One is I wanted to to [26:54] let people know that that asphalt that's [26:56] a temporary measure for safety that and [26:59] and that's why it's done um and that [27:02] those things will be corrected. And one [27:06] of the corrections that we had looked at [27:08] a couple years ago and Mr. Wood and I [27:10] had talked about it is when we convert [27:13] them to asphalt is to take the crossings [27:17] and make them blue in honor of the of [27:20] the river. similar to what we do with [27:23] the green with bicycle paths. So, I was [27:26] uh I was hoping that when we do do that [27:29] consideration that that making our [27:32] crosswalks blue to make Brock stand out [27:34] among cities for for tourism and and you [27:38] know make each of the crosswalks I don't [27:41] think it'll ever look like a river but [27:43] uh but to signify the river and our [27:46] crosswalks when when we go asphalt uh or [27:49] if we go asphalt all the way. But [27:51] certainly uh I I did want to give his [27:54] staff a break uh because they've been [27:56] taking a lot of heat on on the cement in [27:59] the in the current uh paving stones and [28:03] and you know what you know that's not a [28:05] a that's not a permanent fix. That's [28:09] just to keep a safety fix. Uh many of us [28:12] have had knee problems uh uh [28:17] madame chairman included and myself and [28:20] uh you know that that those cement [28:22] patches are to keep us from catching and [28:25] and and falling down. So so u you know [28:29] it's it I didn't want the the citizens [28:33] to think that was a permanent fix. [28:38] » Uh thank you. [28:41] Uh I think um I I think we want to [28:44] stress um councelor Earl that we're not [28:46] being asked uh to make any changes to [28:49] this. We're asking we're being asked to [28:52] receive the report for information. So I [28:55] I don't know that there's any venue for [28:58] us to insert ourselves into the design [29:00] process um in this particular um thing. [29:04] Um, [29:09] » I I understand that they were talking [29:11] this, but I just wanted to get the the [29:14] blue crosswalks on the uh in the minutes [29:18] so that they were the so that we can [29:22] deal with them at at a later time. [29:25] » Thank you. Thank you. Uh, are there any [29:28] other questions or comments related to [29:29] the report? [29:32] Seeing none, we'll call the question. [29:35] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter [29:36] before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you [29:37] vote? [29:38] » Yes. [29:38] » Councelor Earl, [29:43] » You voted yes. Councelor Hobbs, [29:45] » Yes. [29:45] » Councelor Calvash, [29:46] » Yes. [29:47] » Councelor Severson, [29:48] » Yes. [29:48] » Councelor Wales, [29:49] » Yes. [29:50] » Chair Ferton, [29:50] » Yes. [29:51] » That's carried. Thank you. [29:52] » Yes. Uh just for clarity, I want to uh [29:55] I'll record that councelor Earl uh [29:57] raised his hand in support of the [29:59] motion. Um, item number three. Uh, let's [30:05] see. Councelor Wales, would you put that [30:06] on the floor, please? Um, [30:09] and councelor Severson, would you [30:11] second? [30:13] » Thank you, Madam Chair. The item is [30:14] 2026-126 [30:16] adoption of zoning bylaw amendment [30:18] general update following council's [30:20] direction from a previous meeting that [30:22] zoning bylaw 050-204 [30:24] be amended to implement the changes as [30:26] proposed and prepared by NPG solutions [30:29] with the exclusions of section 3.21k [30:32] home industries and 3.22 22. Oh, no. [30:37] 12. Thank you. Uh, home home [30:40] occupations. And that zoning bylaw 050 I [30:43] it just took me a second. I I don't even [30:46] have the coffee excuse. Apologies. That [30:48] zoning bylaw 050-204 [30:50] be further amended in relation to home [30:52] industries and home occupations remain, [30:55] but be further refined and read retail [30:58] except for the sale of goods in [30:59] accordance with section 3.21 21 for home [31:02] industries and retail except for the [31:05] sale of goods in accordance with section [31:06] 3.22B [31:08] 7 and 8 for home occupations. [31:14] » There we go. [31:15] » Thank you. [31:16] » It's not good. [31:17] » Mr. McGinness, uh I take it you can um [31:20] provide an update for us. [31:23] Uh three you madam chair and as you do [31:25] recall um in July or actually last [31:29] council meeting I believe it was uh the [31:31] general amendment did come forward to [31:33] the zoning byl and there were questions [31:34] regarding home occupations, home [31:36] industries, retailing from those [31:38] locations as well as landscaped areas [31:41] within parking areas. Uh so staff did [31:45] take a take it back and speak with MPG [31:47] our consultant and we have no problem [31:50] removing [31:52] uh the preparation of food provided it's [31:54] on a small scale. So councelor Wales is [31:57] brought had brought up at the last [31:58] meeting about cakes, cookies, brownies [32:01] etc. [32:03] We're still excluding restaurants. So [32:05] that gets the larger picture out of it. [32:08] And they're also limited on size. [32:09] They're only allowed 25% of the home or [32:12] 28 square meters, whichever is lesser. [32:15] And that happens with both home industry [32:17] and home occupations, except home [32:19] industries could do their [32:23] industry within their detached structure [32:25] or garage. Um, we've also focused the [32:29] retail portion. So, back to councelor [32:31] Whale's comments at that meeting about [32:33] people coming uh in [32:37] multiple vehicles to pick things up. Uh [32:40] councelor also brought that up. We [32:42] already have a regulation that limits it [32:44] to two occupant or two visitors at a [32:48] time. [32:49] » So, all we did was limit it to not allow [32:51] a retail store, [32:53] but in accordance with section seven and [32:57] 8 and 12. [33:00] So that references specifically to that [33:03] two clients per time at a time. [33:05] » Yeah, that seems like a good uh [33:07] compromise in terms of uh not not being [33:10] a nuisance to your neighbors because [33:13] you're tying the whole street up. [33:15] » Now just sorry just to re or to add to [33:18] that it does not apply to home [33:20] industries only to home occupations but [33:23] home industries are only allowed in the [33:25] rural zone. [33:27] So you're not going to get a home [33:28] industry on Perth Street or Charles [33:31] Street or Duke Street. They're basically [33:34] out on Victoria Road. [33:35] » Yeah. [33:36] » And Centennial. [33:37] » Yeah. [33:37] » Which have larger lots. So we didn't [33:39] believe it would become an issue. Uh if [33:41] it does though, we do issue certificates [33:43] of zoning compliance which we could [33:44] revoke. [33:45] » Yeah. [33:46] » If complaints do arise. [33:49] » Good. Uh councelor Derry. [33:51] » Thank you. Uh thank you Mr. McInness. [33:53] Just my question was related to the 15% [33:56] aotment for the landscaping. Was there [33:58] any specific requirement that it has to [34:00] be within the interior of the or can it [34:02] be along the exterior or perimeter of [34:04] the property? Does it specify anything [34:06] along that or does it matter where they [34:08] make that landscaping? [34:10] » Uh through you madam chair to couns [34:12] councelor Derry and the rest of council. [34:13] Um so it would be within the parking [34:16] area delineated by the building. So if [34:18] the parking area is in the front yard [34:20] » It would need to be within the front [34:21] yard. Uh for an example [34:24] um we already I'm going to use Walmart [34:26] as an example. We require say Walmart [34:29] came tomorrow and wanted to build a new [34:32] complex. We require minimum 15% [34:35] landscaped open space. When you look at [34:37] Walmart now where would their [34:39] landscaping be? It's in the back. No one [34:41] sees it. [34:43] » So we've we're trying to implement it [34:45] within the parking area to beautify the [34:47] area, make it more attractive. Um, it is [34:50] already a requirement. [34:52] We're just dictating it has to be within [34:54] that parking area if it's over 50 [34:56] parking spaces. [35:00] » So hope so the desire is that hopefully [35:03] it would lead to a few trees uh being [35:07] » Hopefully it doesn't have to be trees [35:09] that could be shrubs or something that's [35:11] easily maintained. [35:12] » Yeah, [35:13] » As councelor Earl did bring up trees are [35:14] hard to maintain in those islands. [35:16] » Yeah, [35:16] » They don't get enough water. No, [35:19] » Not saying the owners couldn't water [35:21] them, but there are other options. [35:23] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. Are there any [35:26] other questions or comments? Yes. [35:30] » Uh, thanks very much, Madam Chair. I [35:32] just want to thank uh Mr. McGinness for [35:34] uh the revisions. I I think that they've [35:35] captured council's de uh debate and [35:38] deliberation very well. Uh and also the [35:42] um the memo uh from uh Mr. opits uh and [35:46] NPG I have found quite helpful in [35:48] explaining uh the many different reasons [35:51] why they've considered this and the [35:53] whole heat island effect and it was very [35:54] informative. So appreciate their work as [35:56] well. [35:57] » Thank you. [35:58] » Absolutely. as you're aware, I certainly [36:00] had some concerns about it, but I'm not [36:02] the expert and I um I I believe, you [36:06] know, you've had a good look at it um uh [36:08] now specifically and I do see that it, [36:11] you know, on uh 50 uh car parking area, [36:15] it means five spaces. So, to me, it's [36:18] still not insignificant. And I know [36:20] we're going to have some um some [36:22] properties that are challenged to meet [36:24] uh what they need to do, but I also know [36:26] that um yeah, we we work things out [36:29] somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Uh any other [36:32] questions or comments? Seeing none, [36:35] we'll call the question. [36:37] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter [36:38] before you, Councelor Jerry, how do you [36:39] vote? [36:40] » Yes. [36:40] » Councelor Earl? [36:42] » Yes. [36:44] » Councelor Hog, [36:45] » Yes. [36:46] » Councelor Calvas, [36:47] » Yes. [36:47] » Councelor Severson, [36:48] » Yes. Councelor Wales. [36:50] » Yes. [36:51] » Chair Fullerton. [36:52] » Yes. [36:52] » That's carried. Thank you. [36:53] » Great. U moving on to the general [36:55] committee. I wonder councelor Deiri, [36:58] would you take this agenda, please? [36:59] » I will, Madam Chair. All matters listed [37:02] under consent agenda considered to be [37:03] routine and will be enacted by one [37:05] motion. Should a council member wish an [37:08] alternative action from the proposed [37:09] recommendation, the council member shall [37:11] request that this matter be be moved to [37:14] separate the item uh and that the [37:16] following items as listed on the general [37:18] committee agenda are recommended by the [37:20] committee to be passed by consent [37:22] agenda. Was anyone asking for separation [37:24] from the agenda? [37:26] » Okay, seeing none, I'd ask. [37:28] » Councelor Hobbs, um do you mind [37:29] seconding? [37:30] » Oh, yes. Thank you. [37:31] » Thank you. [37:32] » Yeah, thank you. Um, councelor Severson, [37:35] if you could take one and two, and [37:37] councelor Hobbs, if you take three, [37:38] four, and five. [37:42] » Thank you, Councelor Deir. Um 2027 [37:46] Ontario 55 summer games 55 plus ad hoc [37:50] games organizing committee that an ad [37:52] hoc games organizing committee be [37:54] established to develop and implement a [37:56] comprehensive strategy that aims to [37:58] manage the Ontario 55 plus summer games [38:01] in 2027 along with associated [38:04] subcommittees and that the draft terms [38:06] of reference for the ad hoc games [38:08] organizing committee be adopted and the [38:10] necessary bylaw be adopted. [38:13] 2026 [38:15] 118 museum collection policy that the [38:18] brothel museum collection policy be [38:20] adopted as amended to reflect a review [38:23] period of four years rather than three. [38:27] Item number 3 2026-19 [38:30] the museum exhibition policy that the [38:32] Brockville Museum exhibition policy be [38:35] adopted as amended to reflect a review [38:37] period of four years rather than three. [38:40] Item 4, 2026-120. [38:43] The museum membership program new user [38:45] fee. That the new user fee for museum [38:48] membership offered by the broughtful [38:50] museum be approved and that the [38:52] necessarily necessary bylaw be amended. [38:56] Item 5, 2026-121, [38:59] the June 2026 capital status report that [39:02] report 2026-121 [39:06] June 2026 capital status report be [39:09] received. [39:11] » Thank you. Um, so by uh roll call, I [39:15] will call the question. [39:17] » Thank you, Chair Fullerton. On the [39:19] matter before you, Councelor Deir, how [39:20] do you vote? [39:21] » Yes. [39:22] » Councelor Earl? [39:24] » Yes. [39:25] Councelor Hobbs, [39:26] » Yes. [39:27] » Councelor Calvas, [39:28] » Yes. [39:28] » Councelor Severson, [39:29] » Yes. [39:30] » Councelor Wales, [39:31] » Yes. [39:31] » Chair Fullerton, [39:32] » Yes. Thank you. That's carried. [39:38] » Uh, councelor Calivas, will you take the [39:40] next item, please? And councelor [39:41] Severson, will you second? [39:44] » Okay. It's moved that uh project 260036 [39:49] Murf Ball Diamonds and Pickle Ball [39:51] Excavation Tender that the report [39:53] 2026124 [39:55] project 260036 [39:57] Murf Ball Diamonds and Pickle Ball [40:00] Excavation Tender be received. [40:03] » Uh thank you. Um, one of the things that [40:06] was noted at our general uh, committee [40:09] meeting is that there were uh, a few [40:12] things on this um, on this uh, agenda [40:16] that related to the multi-use recreation [40:18] facility and the fact that it's moving [40:20] forward. And um at the time we had uh [40:23] the fundraiser for the new um uh project [40:26] was in the room and certainly spoke to [40:28] um uh you know the fundraising efforts [40:31] that are going to um begin to happen. [40:34] And um this is again part of the project [40:38] that we are um you know taken off so [40:41] that we have a little bit of it done and [40:44] we're working toward it. And it was [40:46] certainly noted that u the city has [40:48] already acquired and paid for the land. [40:50] We've already uh contracted and paid for [40:54] the uh design. So, we have a shovel [40:57] ready project that's um that's ready to [41:00] go. We've got a fundraiser uh in place [41:03] and uh we're waiting for our upper level [41:06] um government announcements for funding [41:09] and uh we have a very strong uh project [41:12] to put forward. So, um so this was very [41:16] exciting. Um, yes, Councelor Severson. [41:21] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I might ask [41:23] Mr. Wood to speak. Uh, again, um, I I [41:27] ask that these the item one and two be [41:29] pulled from our consent agenda because I [41:32] think it's a very big project within the [41:34] city and also a very exciting time [41:37] hopefully uh, within the next year. and [41:41] um and councelor Wales and myself went [41:44] on a tour to check out the new roof that [41:46] was uh being finished and hopefully this [41:50] week will be finished. So maybe Mr. Wood [41:52] could give us an update on that. [41:56] » Certainly. [41:56] » Thank you. [41:58] » Thank you. And through you, Madam Chair. [41:59] Um well, I'm going to start with just a [42:01] quick update on the roof. Um, so despite [42:04] the fact that I understand this to be [42:06] the wetest July in history and possibly [42:09] I'm assuming the wetest August in [42:10] history, um, our roof project has [42:12] proceeded and is planned to be complete [42:15] on budget and on time. Uh, the, uh, as I [42:19] understand, our first ice booking is [42:21] actually the 31st of August, and we are [42:24] planning to have ice built for then. So, [42:26] I know there's a lot of moving parts and [42:28] there's a lot of uh maybe a little [42:30] excitable folk in our in our barn at the [42:33] moment, but uh the uh the contractor's [42:36] been excellent to deal with and uh been [42:38] very forward when we found issues. We [42:39] worked them through and um and they've [42:41] done a very good job at completing the [42:43] job as we've asked. So, um, right now [42:46] we're in a position where provided [42:48] there's no enormous surprises between [42:50] now and the end of the week, we should [42:51] have, uh, we should have all of that, [42:54] uh, ready to go to start building ice. [42:56] So, again, um, those who have been [42:58] inside, I I think will be impressed. [43:00] It's an enormous facelift on the inside, [43:02] even though we haven't made any [43:03] structural changes. Um, you know, it's a [43:05] much brighter, renew, rejuvenated [43:08] building when you're inside. And I must [43:10] admit, it's sort of um an interesting [43:12] feeling when you're standing at Center [43:13] Ice and looking up at the sky. So, it's [43:15] it's been impressive. So, yes, the [43:17] memorial center is is uh on its way. [43:20] We're, like I said, planning to build [43:22] ice in the very near future. I think [43:23] it'll probably be some allnighters by [43:24] staff to get it done on time, but we are [43:26] hitting our marks. So, that's positive. [43:28] » Yeah. [43:29] » We have a doors open uh project coming [43:32] uh day coming on uh September the 18th, [43:36] I believe. Uh, is the memorial center [43:38] going to be one of those doors that that [43:40] is open? [43:42] » Well, the uh, you know, manager of [43:44] tourism would have been probably an [43:45] excellent person to answer that question [43:46] because I'm not specifically sure. I [43:48] know that the Gourd Watts building is [43:49] and so forth, but there will certainly [43:52] be people skating on it by the time the [43:54] doors open happens. So, hopefully we'll [43:57] we'll all be, you know, in very pleased [43:59] mood when we see that. But, [44:01] » Yeah. Um so yeah, if uh you'll indulge [44:04] me, I'll I can speak to the the outside [44:06] project which is sort of the matter of [44:07] the report. Um so uh maybe I'll start [44:11] quickly that um this this project and [44:14] what we're discussing constitutes [44:16] probably a third or more of the [44:18] component of the greater MURF project in [44:22] terms of the outside facility. So when [44:25] we if if you recall and I'll paraphrase [44:27] but the uh the report of the costs of [44:29] the project actually was approximately [44:30] 20 million for the new build [44:32] approximately $5 million for the outside [44:34] work and approximately $5 million for [44:36] the inside work plus then you have [44:37] contractor markups and some [44:39] contingencies and these sort of things [44:40] and that is how the cost estimate was [44:42] presented by the the consultant. So um [44:46] of the of the renovation I'll start with [44:48] that of the renovation approximately $2 [44:50] million of that was to do the roof. So, [44:52] we've checked that box. Now, we have [44:54] approximately $3 million worth of [44:55] renovations in the inside. When we get [44:57] to that point in terms of the outside [44:58] facilities, uh again, it was [45:00] approximately $5 million worth of work. [45:02] Um if we built if we intended to proceed [45:05] with the ball fields and pickle ball the [45:07] way that it was designed, it's probably [45:10] $2 million or more worth of work. Um [45:12] that would include landscaping the [45:14] entire property. And to be perfectly [45:16] honest and that would be the perfect [45:18] world for how to build it according to [45:19] the way the designers did it but it [45:20] would actually result in a gap in our [45:22] ability to deliver services to our user [45:24] groups. So for instance the co-ed men's [45:27] and and ladies ball uh leagues would [45:29] have to pause while grass group for [45:31] instance while we did this. Um the way [45:34] this is done um is actually going to be [45:37] staff managing this in terms of the [45:39] landscapes that we have. the end product [45:41] will be just as good, but it won't be as [45:44] I suppose complete as as the way it was [45:47] designed where the whole landscape would [45:48] be leveled to one level and that sort of [45:50] thing. Um, not I suppose ironically the [45:53] um the budget for this as I mentioned uh [45:56] was probably two more than $2 million to [45:59] do it the way it was designed. um staff [46:00] will be doing this in-house using um our [46:03] own contract administration capabilities [46:05] and our own I suppose landscape the way [46:08] it is and we'll be approximately 954,000 [46:12] in terms of the budget that was set out [46:13] that was roughly equivalent not [46:15] ironically to the amount that the [46:17] Ontario government gave us to do the [46:18] roof. Um so we've had to set this up in [46:22] a way that was strategic for both the [46:23] city and for staff uh ability to manage [46:26] this. So it was broken up into four [46:28] smaller projects. one being the [46:29] excavation. That's the meat and potatoes [46:31] of what this report is. So, it's talking [46:32] about how we we carved out the [46:35] components that were just machine work [46:36] on site, land, earth moving and all that [46:38] good stuff. Um, that's the part that [46:40] we've completed. Now, part of what the [46:42] report says is that the amount that we [46:44] had we had estimated that to be the cost [46:46] came in more than that. Um, the second [46:50] part of that is lighting which we are [46:51] tendering at the moment, the fencing and [46:53] then also the sports material. This is [46:55] the clay and things going on the [46:56] infield. By managing them independently [46:58] and in house gives us the ability to do [47:01] two things. We can be strategic about it [47:02] as I mentioned and by strategic I mean [47:04] that we're not actually going to [47:06] interrupt any any services we provide. [47:08] Our plan is to phase in things so that [47:10] the ball diamond that needs to be [47:11] complete will be complete on time for [47:13] use in 2027. Provided that goes well, we [47:16] can use one of the existing ball fields, [47:18] that's the way the landscaping is, to [47:19] build the pickle ball. And then the [47:21] third component is the second diamond [47:24] and that uh can be finished by 2028. So [47:27] this phasing the the way that we're [47:30] we're doing it in partition allows us to [47:32] be strategic to manage it within ideally [47:35] a smaller budget more contained project [47:37] just as good as a final product and uh [47:40] something that we've been able actually [47:42] to procure inhouse and and deliver [47:44] ideally to the public in a in a in a [47:47] very good way. This is actually very [47:49] similar to how we did the um the um [47:52] docks at the Ernie Fox key and the [47:54] tunnel. This was something that was [47:56] designed in cooperation with an a [47:57] designer, delivered using a local uh [48:01] contractor to fabricate them being Kho [48:03] and then actually contract administrated [48:05] by staff. What it means is as staff get [48:08] to these different milestones, we may [48:10] come back to council and say, you know, [48:11] we were a little good on this one. We we [48:12] were under our budget expectations or [48:14] this one was a little a little beyond. [48:17] The other thing with the phasing is that [48:18] we can actually bring this back to a [48:19] future capital project or capital [48:21] budget. So council can actually [48:23] interpret the cost as we've tendered [48:24] them and make you know decisions on the [48:27] budget implications through the budget [48:29] process as opposed to me coming in the [48:31] middle of a budget year saying this is [48:33] ahead or behind. So apologize it for [48:35] being a little more complicated than [48:36] normal but this is kind of the way that [48:38] we'll do it that uh that allows us to [48:40] have our finger on the pulse, manage it [48:42] inhouse and deliver those answers to [48:44] council as we go. there's uh lots of [48:46] moving parts and uh I think uh you know [48:49] the usual if you hire a general [48:51] contractor to do all these things [48:52] doesn't it add 20% of um to the project [48:56] cost. So I think this is a an excellent [48:58] uh approach and as you say um you know [49:01] our citizens are worried about losing um [49:04] access to uh um to certain of their uh [49:08] facilities. So, um, being able to keep [49:10] those diamonds, uh, going when people [49:12] want to play play ball is, uh, a really [49:15] important, uh, feature of the way that [49:17] you're, uh, uh, taking this job on. So, [49:20] it's good. It's good. Other questions or [49:23] comments? [49:25] » Seeing none, we'll call the question. [49:26] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter [49:28] before you, Councelor Deiri, how do you [49:29] vote? [49:30] » Yes. [49:30] » Councelor Earl, [49:34] » Yes. [49:35] » Councelor Hobbs, [49:36] » Yes. Councelor Calvas, [49:38] » Yes. [49:38] » Councelor Severson, [49:39] » Yes. [49:40] » Councelor Wales, [49:40] » Yes. [49:41] » Chair Fullerton, [49:42] » Yes. [49:42] » That's carried. Thank you. [49:44] » Councelor Hobbs, will you put the next [49:45] item on? And councelor Wales, would you [49:47] second? [49:48] » Thank you. [49:49] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Item number two, [49:51] 2026-122 [49:54] inind fundraising policy for the MURF [49:56] fundraising campaign. [50:00] that report 2026-122 [50:03] inind fundraising policy for the MURF [50:06] fundraising campaign be received and [50:08] approved and that the inind fundraising [50:11] policy be implemented accordingly and [50:14] that authorization of inind donations in [50:17] accordance with the policy be accepted. [50:21] Are there questions or comments? Yes, [50:23] Councelor Severson. [50:24] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I got this [50:27] one confused at committee. I was [50:28] thinking because we had Joan Simon here [50:30] that that's what we were talking about [50:32] and I did read it but I just got you [50:34] know all excited about raising money but [50:37] um Emily Wood prepared for us a great [50:40] inind fundraising policy and uh while [50:43] Joan was here she gave us an update and [50:45] she said it's much easier to uh have [50:48] this in place when she's starting to [50:50] raise money because anybody that wants [50:52] to donate money in the community needs [50:54] to have it in front of them that it's [50:57] factual and that we uh or ducks in a [50:59] row, so to speak. I wouldn't mind if [51:01] Miss Wood would give us a little bit of [51:03] an update on how she put this together [51:06] um and uh how she sees it proceeding. [51:08] » Yeah. [51:09] » Thank you. [51:10] » Thank you. [51:11] » Thank you. And through you, Madam Chair. [51:12] Uh so yes, this policy was developed uh [51:15] from the request of the immensely [51:17] talented Joan Simon. Uh so she's asked [51:20] us to consider inkind donations. In our [51:22] current policy, it's limited at $5,000 [51:24] and uh for a project of this size, uh [51:27] she was hoping uh that there would be [51:30] interested parties that would maybe give [51:33] more. So, um we've developed a formal [51:37] process for engaging local companies uh [51:40] that may wish to support the project [51:42] through things other than a cash [51:43] donation. This policy is uh going to [51:47] provide us with an accountable framework [51:49] uh to accept these contributions while [51:51] protecting our procurement integrity uh [51:54] ensuring that there's fair access to um [51:57] for potential donors and establishing [52:01] appropriate safeguards for quality [52:02] workmanship and it allow us to recognize [52:05] new and existing community partners with [52:07] the intent of offsetting those costs [52:10] associated with this project. Uh and so [52:12] in terms of roll out uh there was a [52:14] question uh a general committee of how [52:17] we are uh going to proceed with this and [52:20] um uh in the beginning uh we'll probably [52:24] do an expression of interest uh getting [52:26] some information from folks who [52:28] businesses that are interested in um [52:33] contributing in this way. Uh in kind [52:36] again is you know free uh items for the [52:39] city. So, not all businesses will be [52:41] doing that. Um, but we will put out the [52:44] expression of interest through our [52:45] social media channels, through the [52:46] city's website. We will allow that to be [52:48] open for a while. And once we get an [52:50] idea of who is interested in donating, [52:53] we will pull from our design and we will [52:58] pull uh the design information and [53:01] specifications for the items that we're [53:03] looking for and see if it matches what [53:05] those folks that have expressed interest [53:08] uh are willing to donate. Uh and then [53:10] from there we would quantify um you know [53:13] numbers, values, timelines and we would [53:16] set out an agreement with those parties [53:18] um so that they we all understand the [53:21] same thing. So, um that they would need [53:24] to keep things until we're ready for [53:26] them. That um you know, their names [53:30] would be written into the tender with a [53:33] uh contact information for the potential [53:36] biders or the future biders hopefully uh [53:38] to reach out to them and understand what [53:41] product they're providing and um just to [53:44] be very clear during that process so [53:46] nothing falls between the cracks. So um [53:49] uh we hope in the next uh couple of [53:52] months to be issuing uh a post for [53:54] expression of interest and then we would [53:57] go from there. For other items, we [53:59] talked about the fundraising campaign [54:01] needing some potential uh folks that [54:04] might want to provide food services to [54:07] any events. um we would specifically [54:09] post what we were looking for in the in [54:11] that regard, saying we're looking for um [54:15] businesses that might be interested in [54:16] providing inind services. We're seeking [54:19] quantities of sandwiches or whatever [54:22] that might look like. But uh that's [54:24] essentially the mechanism and the [54:26] process that we're hoping to use if this [54:28] policy is approved. [54:30] » Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, please. If I [54:34] may, Madam Chair, I just wanted to add [54:36] that this is uh the first time that city [54:39] of brothel has attempted this type of [54:41] inind policy and it's not uh Mr. Wood [54:44] and I were at the Association of [54:46] Municipalities of Ontario conference [54:48] last week and it's not something that [54:50] happens very often. So, this is a trial. [54:53] We're really quite excited about it. We [54:55] think it could provide some great [54:57] opportunities for the city moving [54:59] forward on on larger capital projects [55:02] especially, but uh let's treat this as a [55:06] test case and uh we're hoping that we'll [55:09] see good results from it and we'll be [55:10] able to implement it for future projects [55:12] as well. [55:14] I can certainly remember um when I was a [55:16] counselor in Augusta, we had a large [55:18] fundraiser for the uh library and uh so [55:22] the library board had uh an auction and [55:26] um we had things donated like um you [55:29] know 10 yards of top soil and we had a [55:32] lot of that that sort of donation is [55:35] dirt there. There are a lot of pits and [55:37] things in Augusta. And uh when I first [55:40] saw the list, I was a little bit I [55:42] thought this not very interesting. I was [55:45] shocked at how we got full price for all [55:48] of um for all of the you know the [55:51] aggregate and we had you know different [55:53] kinds of things um uh donated. And you [55:56] have people too that have seasons [55:58] tickets for um you know sens games and [56:00] that kind of thing that are willing to [56:02] uh to donate um uh uh tickets and um you [56:07] know they have a value they have a set [56:08] value printed right on them and often um [56:11] you know they'll donate their parking [56:12] pass with it and um it's really [56:15] something that you can monetize uh very [56:17] well and that is marketable but it but [56:20] it's a little harder for them to just [56:21] reach in the pocket sometimes and say [56:23] I'm going to give cash for this. Um, but [56:25] to say, "Yeah, I'm not going to use all [56:28] of these tickets anyway. I'm quite happy [56:30] to give a couple away." So, it's [56:31] surprising the different applications. [56:34] And on the Brock Trail, too. We've had [56:36] trees donated and rocks uh donated to [56:39] put our plaques on and uh uh we've had [56:43] uh engineering services uh donated. [56:45] We've had design services uh donated. So [56:49] um when uh when it's the citizens group [56:52] um working like a lot of times yeah [56:55] people can give you u what they do but [56:58] you know it's it's a little harder for [57:00] them to just to write a check for it. So [57:03] uh I think this is a great step forward. [57:05] It's a big project so I I think there's [57:08] lots of opportunities and I'm glad that [57:10] it'll be another tool that u Miss uh [57:13] Simon has uh in order to reach her uh [57:16] fundraising goal for us. So very [57:18] exciting. Are there questions, comments? [57:21] Uh yes, councelor Earl. [57:24] » Yeah, I just wanted to uh to say that, [57:28] you know, you're looking at it from the [57:30] city side, but I I wanted to, you know, [57:33] give you a view from the contractor [57:35] side. Many contractors are reluctant to [57:39] donate money [57:41] so that so that the the city can hire [57:44] their competitor. [57:46] So like uh you know like so if you are [57:50] say you wanted to donate [57:53] you mention aggregate uh aggregate for a [57:56] project and so you donated strictly as a [58:00] cash basis let's say $5,000 in aggregate [58:05] and then they went and bought it from [58:07] another contractor that kind of leaves [58:09] you with a sour taste. So, so this way [58:12] it, you know, this this type of [58:14] donation, you know, allows uh allows the [58:19] uh contractor to actually physically [58:21] donate something and it goes directly to [58:24] the project and not directly to to his [58:27] com competitors. And you know, I guess [58:30] you you used a a sandwich analysis. I [58:33] think this would end a sandwich. Well, [58:38] if you were a [58:41] sandwich emporium. Uh I think you would [58:45] be reluctant to uh to to go and buy all [58:48] your sandwiches from the competitor to [58:51] donate to the city. You'd want to do it [58:53] yourself. So, so I I think this [58:55] recognizes uh you know the uh the the [58:58] the ability of local contractors or [59:02] local businesses to have an impact but [59:06] uh you know to to put more of their [59:09] their signature their face on the on the [59:11] donation. [59:14] » I think Mrs. uh Miss Simon's um remark [59:17] was that giving should be easy and this [59:20] makes it easier. So it's a good thing. [59:22] Councelor Deiri. [59:23] » Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. I also [59:25] wanted to point out too that what we've [59:27] Miss Woods put together here also [59:29] ensures the integrity portion, which is [59:31] if we did receive an inind donation that [59:34] doesn't in any way uh make preferential [59:38] purchasing as well. So, we are still [59:40] going to maintain that integrity. We're [59:42] going to make sure that we're getting [59:43] the best possible service or product for [59:47] our uh taxpayers. So, yeah. Yeah. [59:50] Exactly. [59:52] Are there any other questions or [59:53] comments? [59:55] Seeing none, we'll call the question. [59:57] » Thank you, Madam Chair. On the matter [59:58] matter before you, councelor Deiri, how [1:00:00] do you wish to vote? [1:00:00] » Yes. [1:00:01] » Councelor Earl, [1:00:02] » Yes. [1:00:03] » Councelor Hobbs, [1:00:04] » Yes. [1:00:05] » Councelor Calvass, [1:00:06] » Yes. [1:00:06] » Councelor Severson, [1:00:07] » Yes. [1:00:08] » Councelor Wales, [1:00:08] » Yes. [1:00:09] » Chair Fullerton, [1:00:10] » Yes. [1:00:10] » That is carried. Thank you. [1:00:13] » So, um, moving on to new business, we [1:00:15] have reports from, uh, members of [1:00:17] council, the recreation committee. Um, [1:00:19] is there anything new to report? [1:00:20] Councelor Severson, [1:00:22] » No report. I think we've kind of [1:00:24] exhausted uh recreation uh for now. So, [1:00:28] most of what was discussed at our [1:00:29] meeting has been talked about tonight. [1:00:31] So, thank you. [1:00:32] » Uh thank you. Um Brock Trail, I don't [1:00:35] believe we've had a a meeting uh since [1:00:38] uh we we talked last, but certainly um [1:00:41] there's lots of activity going on at [1:00:43] John Taylor Park and um there's uh the [1:00:47] committee members are extremely excited. [1:00:49] They're sharing pictures of the footings [1:00:52] going in for the different um uh park [1:00:55] benches that are going to be part of [1:00:57] that project and also for the uh C10 [1:01:00] figures which are going to be there's [1:01:01] the metal sculpture that's going to be [1:01:03] part of that park. So, we're uh excited. [1:01:06] The U footings have gone in for the um [1:01:09] uh there's going to be a rod iron uh [1:01:11] decorative uh fence. So, uh, uh, those [1:01:14] are starting to be poured and, um, yeah, [1:01:17] very, very excited to see that project [1:01:20] coming to fruition. So, uh, yeah. [1:01:24] Um, councelor Calabas or councelor Oh. [1:01:28] Oh, sorry, I've skipped. Um, Katarok Way [1:01:31] Conservation Authority. Councelor Hobbs [1:01:33] or Councelor Earl? I need to report. [1:01:34] » The meeting's tomorrow night, so you [1:01:37] could skip us. [1:01:37] » Great. Next month, we'll hear we'll [1:01:39] we'll hear about that. Uh, councelor [1:01:41] Calivas or councelor Severson on St. [1:01:43] Lawrence Lodge. [1:01:44] » Nothing to report. It'll be next month. [1:01:46] » Okay. Thank you. Uh, councelor Wales uh, [1:01:50] Aquitarium. [1:01:51] » Uh, just the update we had at the [1:01:53] beginning of the meeting. So, we're [1:01:54] welcoming new members, but also uh, the [1:01:56] Aquitarium members. So, that's the city [1:01:58] of Brockville and Btown Brigantine had [1:02:00] their AGM uh, this week as well, which [1:02:03] went well. Um, and uh, we're looking [1:02:06] forward to uh, the board meeting I think [1:02:08] again for a regular meeting in [1:02:09] September. [1:02:10] » Yes. Yes. [1:02:11] » And uh on to the library board. Uh we [1:02:13] don't have a meeting in August, so [1:02:15] September. [1:02:16] » Okay. DBIA councelor Derry. [1:02:19] » Uh not a lot to report, just that we're [1:02:21] four weeks away from our September shop [1:02:23] the street culture days. So I'll just [1:02:25] keep reminding everybody every time we [1:02:27] have these announcements. [1:02:29] » Excellent. Excellent. So we have no [1:02:32] unfinished business uh bylaws. [1:02:42] Okay. [1:02:44] » Yes. Okay. So I So I read this or [1:02:48] councelor Deir read. [1:02:49] » Yes. Okay. So uh the reading of the [1:02:52] bylaws. Councelor Deir, would you read [1:02:54] those? And councelor Wes, would you [1:02:56] second that? I will. [1:02:56] » Yes. Thank you. [1:02:58] » Okay. Hey, that bylaws numbered 056206 [1:03:02] and 6 060 2026 to 063 2026 [1:03:07] be introduced and the same be now read a [1:03:09] first, second, and third time signed by [1:03:11] the mayor and the clerk sealed with the [1:03:12] seal of the corporation and be recorded. [1:03:16] Thank you. Um [1:03:19] all those in favor [1:03:22] carried. Thank you. Um I have no [1:03:25] announcements. Uh [1:03:28] media question period. [1:03:30] » Thank you. Um John Lawless with the [1:03:34] Recorder and Times. I had a few [1:03:35] questions about the uh MURF project and [1:03:37] as well as a couple about the crosswalk. [1:03:39] So [1:03:40] » Um I'll try not to take up too much of [1:03:41] your time, but uh I was trying to [1:03:43] visualize the project based on the [1:03:46] design and I was wondering are any it [1:03:48] might be for Mr. Wood. Are there any [1:03:50] baseball diamonds being removed at uh at [1:03:52] the Murf project? I'm just wondering how [1:03:54] the total will stack up, I guess. [1:03:56] » Yes, Director Woods. [1:03:59] » Uh thank you. So, in reality, when the [1:04:02] project is fully underway, when the new [1:04:04] expansion is going, um two diamonds will [1:04:06] have to be relocated. So, part of what [1:04:09] we're doing today actually establishes [1:04:11] two new diamonds to make way for that [1:04:13] expansion when it happens. And again, [1:04:15] part of the the key to the way we're [1:04:17] doing it actually is that uh we'll have [1:04:19] one of the new ones ready to go for [1:04:21] spring 27 and then the next one ready [1:04:23] for 2028. So conceivably we will have [1:04:26] one extra diamond by the spring, [1:04:28] » Right? [1:04:29] » Then one will be removed and made into [1:04:30] pickle ball. So it is a bit of a domino [1:04:32] effect, but the reason we're phasing it [1:04:34] as you kind of identified is that um was [1:04:37] that we don't lose any capacity. Nobody [1:04:39] has to be put out to play somewhere [1:04:40] else. [1:04:40] » Right. And are the Ball diamonds are [1:04:42] they softball or hard ball or little [1:04:44] league or any mix of the the three or [1:04:46] » An excellent question. It's almost been [1:04:48] at one of our meetings. [1:04:50] » I'm just a big baseball fan. [1:04:51] » Yeah. Yeah. So So the reality is is that [1:04:53] the diamonds are being built to baseball [1:04:55] standards, but we know that [1:04:57] predominantly it's softball that's [1:04:59] played there. Now by bailing them to to [1:05:01] baseball standards with clay and and a [1:05:03] larger infield, both can happen. So, [1:05:05] we're really hoping that that any [1:05:08] changes we make with the MURF in general [1:05:10] allows a venue so that more can happen. [1:05:13] We want we really want to maximize any [1:05:14] of these kind of elements that we're [1:05:16] installing. So, um we know that softball [1:05:18] is on the rise and we know that that [1:05:20] that adult softball has been doing very [1:05:23] well. So, sorry, little league is on the [1:05:24] rise and adult softball has always been [1:05:26] very good. We don't have youth softball [1:05:28] in the city and we don't have adult [1:05:30] baseball in the city. So hopefully by [1:05:32] arranging these things the way we're [1:05:33] doing, we can allow all of those things [1:05:35] to happen. [1:05:35] » Absolutely. And um my other question was [1:05:38] about the pickle ball. Um so is it being [1:05:40] built on the current ball diamond that's [1:05:42] right in behind the memorial center? Is [1:05:44] that [1:05:45] » So So again, for reference, the the one [1:05:46] directly behind is the Goldie [1:05:48] Christopher. That's typically been where [1:05:49] the co-ed teams will play. Um the one [1:05:51] that's going to be available in 2028 [1:05:53] will be the new Goldie, so to speak. Um, [1:05:56] so basically create that capacity for [1:05:58] when the goalie has to be demolished for [1:06:00] the expansion, which again we don't have [1:06:02] a date for necessarily, but we're going [1:06:04] to be be prepared for. Um, the Kinsman [1:06:07] uh, one diamond will be the location of [1:06:09] the pickle ball, the one that's the [1:06:11] southmost of the Kinsman diamonds. So [1:06:13] that's going to be the location of the [1:06:14] pickle ball and the location of a good [1:06:16] deal of the new parking lot when the [1:06:18] expansion happens. So again, the new the [1:06:20] the ball diamond that'll be ready in [1:06:22] 2027 will be the new Kinsman Diamond and [1:06:24] the one that's ready in 2028 will be the [1:06:26] new Goldie and then the existing one [1:06:29] Kinsman diamond can become pickle ball [1:06:31] and the existing Goldie can operate [1:06:33] until we're ready to expand. [1:06:34] » Okay. And I know in the back part of the [1:06:37] memorial center there's an open field. I [1:06:39] believe there's some youth rugby that [1:06:40] takes place there, soccer. Is there [1:06:42] going to be any impact on those [1:06:44] organizations and that space as well or? [1:06:46] » So another great question. So that is [1:06:47] precisely why we built the new soccer [1:06:49] field uh on Laurier. So we spoke with [1:06:53] the local uh rugby and we spoke with the [1:06:55] local soccer uh groups and they [1:06:57] basically worked with us to say you know [1:06:59] we have this space if we build something [1:07:01] then you can maybe transplant a lot of [1:07:03] the youth soccer because it's about 90% [1:07:06] the size of a full pitch. Um from what [1:07:08] they said is that some of the gentlemans [1:07:10] will love the gentleman league will love [1:07:11] to play on a smaller pitch because you [1:07:13] know I certainly would play on a smaller [1:07:14] rank if I could. Um but uh but anyways [1:07:17] the idea was that that capacity then [1:07:19] allows transformation of that that [1:07:22] activity to move to the north side and [1:07:24] that the rugby uprights will be actually [1:07:26] transplanted to one of the full-size [1:07:28] pitches there so that rugby can continue [1:07:30] to play in cooperation with soccer and [1:07:33] they gain some more capacity with the [1:07:35] new pitches there. So all of these [1:07:36] things have been set up like dominoes [1:07:38] and they're starting to fall [1:07:39] » As we had planned and I think your [1:07:41] questions hit those nails on the head [1:07:42] for sure. [1:07:42] » Perfect. Thank you. And just one last [1:07:44] question about the um I think it was [1:07:46] about the roof. Just for clarification, [1:07:47] you said it will potentially it should [1:07:49] be done by the end of this week and then [1:07:50] ice will be in and people will be able [1:07:52] to use it soon, I guess. [1:07:54] » Yeah, actually. So So our staff are [1:07:56] planning to be building ice probably [1:07:57] around the clock for the next uh several [1:07:59] days leading up to the weekend. So Okay. [1:08:01] » Um I I haven't actually checked in with [1:08:02] that supervisor specifically because I [1:08:04] was out of the office today and [1:08:05] yesterday, but but when I had last [1:08:07] checked in with it, everything was going [1:08:08] to plan. All of the roof over the rink [1:08:11] is complete. Um then for I guess the [1:08:13] public's consumption um you will notice [1:08:16] that there will still be people working [1:08:17] on the outside. So the roof itself is [1:08:19] complete. [1:08:20] » The flashing will take a little while. [1:08:21] The flat roofs will then have some [1:08:23] ballast added to them. So there'll be [1:08:24] lots of activity always happening on the [1:08:25] outside probably right through till [1:08:27] maybe October. But the site itself is [1:08:30] currently a construction site. Will be [1:08:32] handed back over for the city's careman [1:08:34] care and control and then we'll be [1:08:35] building ice and have regular operations [1:08:37] on the inside. [1:08:38] » Perfect. [1:08:39] » That's the plan. And I might have a few [1:08:41] more for you if that's okay. [1:08:42] » This time about the crosswalk. Yeah, [1:08:44] sure. Um I I believe if I understood the [1:08:46] report correctly, there'll be a further [1:08:48] report coming to council for something a [1:08:50] little more definitive. I was just [1:08:51] wondering if there's might be a target [1:08:53] date uh on when the crosswalk might be [1:08:56] painted. I'm thinking like will it be [1:08:57] done for Remembrance Day kind of thing. [1:08:59] Is that [1:08:59] » So So again, we uh we were just looking [1:09:00] to coordinate kind of our own resources [1:09:02] in house because we're going to remove [1:09:03] all the uh interlock and paving stone [1:09:05] that makes up that current crosswalk. [1:09:07] And so that'll require us to close that [1:09:09] part of our street briefly just to pull [1:09:11] that out, prepare it, pave it, tamp it, [1:09:14] open it back up, and then uh in I think [1:09:17] it's the plan is uh midepptember to late [1:09:19] September. Then we're going to again [1:09:21] bring people in. We we have a a night [1:09:23] shift that does painting at like 2 a.m. [1:09:25] So we'll come in, close it again. [1:09:27] » There'll be a crew that takes it on and [1:09:28] then ideally is open it up for the next [1:09:30] day's worth of traffic. And if we need [1:09:32] to do a second night, then we'll go at [1:09:33] it. Again, that's part of what I tried [1:09:35] to convey in the in the um in the report [1:09:38] is that we're great at painting roads. I [1:09:40] don't know how artistic we can be with [1:09:42] machinery we have, but we're going to [1:09:43] figure it out. It's going to be very [1:09:45] presentable and and respective [1:09:46] respectable. So, [1:09:48] » We also don't know 100% how much upkeep [1:09:50] it'll take. So, we may have to repeat [1:09:51] that throughout the year. And the number [1:09:52] that you're referring to, um everything [1:09:54] we've got pretty much at this point, we [1:09:56] can handle within the established budget [1:09:57] and manpower that we have. But uh to [1:10:01] keep this in good condition, we'll [1:10:02] probably have to come back and budget [1:10:04] and say this is the increment that it [1:10:05] takes to do this sort of thing. So it's [1:10:07] not like a crosswalk that we do once a [1:10:09] year. We're going to have to come back [1:10:10] and have some folks on night shift to [1:10:12] touch it up and keep it clean and keep [1:10:14] it good. [1:10:14] » Yeah. And Yeah. Do you think it would be [1:10:16] done by remembrance day then? Is that [1:10:18] kind of a thing? I thought you mentioned [1:10:20] mid September. [1:10:21] » Mid September I think is when we'll plan [1:10:22] to do it. Um the other thing is for [1:10:24] paint has to be warm out. So we got to [1:10:26] work with the weather as well. So that's [1:10:27] that's the criteria we're working with [1:10:29] and it is a bit of discovery as we go as [1:10:31] every municipality I've sort of looked [1:10:32] into has kind of figured it out a little [1:10:34] bit but it has to be uh weather [1:10:36] conditions are favorable for all the [1:10:38] right reasons. So yeah should be [1:10:39] September that's that's done and um we [1:10:42] do have a project landing page at the [1:10:44] city that we're trying to keep up to [1:10:45] date with some information so that you [1:10:47] know folks don't have to wonder what's [1:10:48] going on. So ideally update that as we [1:10:50] go and it usually hits social media so [1:10:52] it should be something fairly [1:10:53] conspicuous I hope. [1:10:54] » Perfect. And I my final question was [1:10:56] just about the design. I know there were [1:10:57] some discussions about the design and [1:10:59] the photo that was included in the [1:11:01] report. So is that kind of the template [1:11:03] with maybe there might be some kind of [1:11:06] » Deviation depending on suggestion or [1:11:08] things like that or [1:11:08] » That's right. When we spoke to the [1:11:10] legion actually and I think councelor [1:11:11] pointed out as well is that there was [1:11:13] idea of poppies. Poppies are actually a [1:11:15] trademark of the legion. Um there was [1:11:17] lots of little things that we could do [1:11:19] figures and and and and nomenclature and [1:11:21] all kinds of things. So when the legion [1:11:23] looked at it, they actually selected the [1:11:25] one that has been widely used in a lot [1:11:27] of municipalities. So it uses the white [1:11:29] ladder bars as I mentioned is required [1:11:30] to include but also has you know a bit [1:11:32] of memory a bit of messaging as a [1:11:35] commemoration and also the maple leafs [1:11:36] and these sort of things. So it's very [1:11:38] similar to the ones I actually mentioned [1:11:40] in the report and I can't name off the [1:11:41] top of my head but yeah [1:11:42] » This same one has been scaled up and [1:11:44] down in many communities. So that seems [1:11:46] to be maybe the the new standard so to [1:11:48] speak but that's where it came from and [1:11:50] that's what we're playing about. Yeah. [1:11:51] » Right. Thanks for letting me grill you [1:11:52] for a bit. Anyhow, that's it for me. [1:11:54] Thank you, [1:11:55] » Councelor Severson. [1:11:58] » Not a media question, but uh we I think [1:12:00] we missed on all the work going on at [1:12:02] the Memorial Center. I've had some [1:12:03] questions on the south side of the [1:12:05] memorial center is the skateboard park. [1:12:07] Can you just confirm that that's going [1:12:09] to remain where where it is and yes, [1:12:11] all's good for the skateboarders? [1:12:13] » Yes. Yes, all is good for the [1:12:14] skateboarders. Um yeah, so there's no uh [1:12:16] plan to change that at all. Um, in fact, [1:12:19] if I would love to actually share the [1:12:22] designs with anybody who's interested, [1:12:23] but uh the the actual MURF project will [1:12:26] see a road come in between the existing [1:12:28] moral center and the skate park and then [1:12:31] enter a brand new parking lot at the [1:12:32] back and then come back around on the [1:12:34] west side. So, um, there's a lot of [1:12:36] detail. Well, it's all you, of course, [1:12:37] engineering plots and stuff like that. [1:12:39] But I' be happy to share them to show [1:12:41] people because it's actually quite [1:12:42] exciting when you see pickle ball, [1:12:44] skateboard park, ball diamonds, rock [1:12:46] trail, play structures, rink facility, [1:12:49] walking track, community halls, all in [1:12:51] one spot. And that's kind of the essence [1:12:52] that we've we've tried to actually [1:12:54] characterize is not just a rink because [1:12:57] it certainly isn't. [1:12:58] » Yeah. Awesome. Uh that's good. Okay. Um [1:13:03] we do have an in camera uh session. So [1:13:07] uh why don't uh we'll take a couple [1:13:10] minutes. Should we read the motion [1:13:12] before or when we get back? [1:13:16] » Read it now. Okay. [1:13:18] » Oh, okay. So we'll take a two-minut [1:13:20] break to allow our uh guests to vacate [1:13:23] the room and then we'll have a um an in [1:13:26] camera