1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,919 All right, you're on. >> All right, I'd like to call to order 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:12,719 this regularly scheduled board of finance meeting for Wednesday, August 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:16,679 12th. All members are present. So, we'll start with the pledge of allegiance. 4 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:25,119 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:31,920 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:38,879 justice for all. Thank you. Uh I see no public, so no public comment. 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:46,160 Uh communications correspondents. >> Okay, we had uh Kelly Wyn, Brook Mano, 8 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:49,920 Mark Morash, Steven Paresi, Andy Kareah, and Alice Carolyn. 9 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:53,039 » Perfect. Approval of the meeting minutes. 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:57,039 » I would like to make a motion to approve the July 8th, 2026 regular meeting 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,199 minutes. >> Second. and second. 12 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:03,359 » Second. >> Any discussion? 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,239 » Hearing none. All in favor? >> I 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:09,600 » I >> I'll abstain. So, as I didn't to be 15 00:01:07,119 --> 00:01:14,960 honest with you, >> uh I'll make a motion that we Oh, no. 16 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Steven's not here. So, go ahead, Steve. It's uh on you. 17 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:24,479 » You guys aren't here to replace him. >> No, the understanding was we were 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:29,439 » there. I'll make [laughter] I'll make a motion that we move the 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,920 board of education to next on the agenda. Do I have a second? 20 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:36,400 » I'll second. >> Second. All in favor? I. Steve, it's 21 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,040 your floor. >> Okay. [laughter] 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,680 All right. >> Catch your breath. 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:47,600 » How are you all? I know. I'm sorry to have a meeting downstairs. So, good to 24 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:50,560 see you all. Um, >> just want some updates on things. 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,759 » Yes, sir. >> How we're doing, where we're going. Uh 26 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:59,840 things are going along great with the boiler uh at Brookfield High School. Um 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:03,920 a lot of progress has been made. The actual boiler unit itself has been 28 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:11,599 ordered. Um the container ordered that that whole outer piece, but they u have 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:14,800 also also um repaired one boiler almost to full and they were going to fire it 30 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,120 up by the [clears throat] end of this week. So the goal is that'll 31 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,599 get fired up by the end of this week. Um, and hopefully we have that one on 32 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,720 ready to go. And then when the other boiler comes in, they already have um 33 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:33,280 put in all the piping and all the holes in the walls to the exterior of the 34 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,319 going outside of it into the boiler room to be able to pipe it and funnel it all 35 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,319 in. And they're working on the electrical. And then they're working on 36 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:45,280 a very safe place to put it if you know that area at all where it will go. Um, 37 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,480 kind of to the right hand side of the building, main entrance there. um 38 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,959 they're trying to look at where the best spot is. So, but uh but they're they're 39 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:58,560 really cruising on that. So, thank you so much for your support with that. Um 40 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:04,640 in regards to the uh Whiskaner Middle School playground that you approved 41 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:09,200 also, thank you for that. Um we have uh the contract ready to go uh in 42 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:15,200 coordination with parks and recreation. They have already removed the uh old 43 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:20,319 swing set from the area uh along with the uh three-foot pilings that were 44 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:24,400 holding it in. uh their recommendation before we move forward with putting in 45 00:03:22,239 --> 00:03:31,920 or installing a new playscape or any equipment. Um and they're going to to 46 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:36,720 manage this uh would be to um remove the base 47 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:41,760 uh that's been there for about 40 years with just uh engineered uh wood chips 48 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:48,480 put on top of it which decompose over time. And so it's really not um 49 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:54,400 best up to code as it could be. Uh so they want to go I think about 16 inches 50 00:03:50,959 --> 00:04:00,959 down remove the whole base layer uh and then refill so that way it is a more 51 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:06,799 safe uh area before putting in uh new new equipment which I think is a smart 52 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:10,239 long-term decision. Um I think they're working on getting quotes for that right 53 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:16,479 now. Uh it looks like it'll be approximately $15,000 to do that work. 54 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:21,359 Um, and so, you know, we would work on somehow coordinating that or um figuring 55 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:26,800 out how we'll we'll manage all that. But, um, but that's their recommendation 56 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:30,320 first. So, I'm kind of in a place where uh the equipment's ready to go and get 57 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,400 ordered, but I I want to make sure that the timing of it is [music] right and 58 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,800 that we coordinate it with what parks and recreation is recommending. 59 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,960 » So, just pause there for a moment, see if there's any questions on that. 60 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:50,160 No, I'm good. >> Is the off slightly off topic of the the 61 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,040 uh quotes and the work on uh cam blade. >> Yep. 62 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:53,199 » Playground. >> Perfect. Right where I was going. 63 00:04:52,400 --> 00:05:01,759 » No. All right. Good. >> Uh so yes, uh great news just came in 64 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:08,639 today. um that uh that uh quote started off I think when I first presented it to 65 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:13,039 you at um at $114,000 66 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:18,720 just uh for the equipment and the installation of the equipment. So that 67 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:22,080 was $114,000 like 139 maybe. So rounded up to 114. 68 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Then I found out they were a part of this uh national like group Omnia where 69 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:31,680 we can get discounts if we're a part of it too. And that brought it down to 102. 70 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:36,720 Then about a week after it came down to 102 after I found that out and talked to 71 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:41,360 them uh their company I got an email that uh if you submit your name and what 72 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:47,520 you're trying to do, you can get additional uh you can get selected to 73 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:53,360 win more more price off of your project. And I did and I just found out today 74 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:58,320 that we got a total of 40% off the actual equipment. The installation not 75 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:04,160 but the equipment. Yes. So from $75,000 down to um approximately 455. So that 76 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,400 brings the whole project down to $90,000. So we could do that whole 77 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:13,840 project right now. We wouldn't have to change the base layer at all. It's 78 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:17,440 currently a rubber mulch and so they can install a new playground with that same 79 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:21,840 rubber mulch in there. they'll just pull it back, install, put it back, right? 80 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,560 So, we wouldn't have to pay for anything else but what the quote is right now, 81 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:31,360 which is $90,000, which I think in total I came to maybe at 125 at one point. So, 82 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:38,960 it's a significant reduction from where we were. Um, and so that is the latest 83 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:44,240 and greatest, but that quote in that um discount does expire. So, there is an 84 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,360 expiration date to that. Um, so I would just, you know, ask you again to 85 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:51,759 reconsider if that's something that we think, uh, 86 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:56,319 you are interested in supporting us to be able to move forward, uh, and there 87 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,400 are any opportunity to approve funding for that. We have what I would consider 88 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,440 one of the best rates that we're going to get for that type of place. 89 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,160 » What's the expiration date? >> I'm sorry. Do we know the expiration 90 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:11,440 date? >> I can't have you. Sorry. 91 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:13,669 » Sorry. Here's [laughter] 92 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:22,160 the contract. What is the expiration date? [snorts] I don't know. [laughter] 93 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:24,319 » Contract. It's only the top one. >> 30 days. 94 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:31,199 » Quote valid for 30 days. >> Quote is denial for 30 days. So 95 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:37,120 then they give it to someone else. He's ready to move. So that's where we are uh 96 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:42,479 with those kind of three major major projects. Um, we also have uh well, we 97 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,720 have a number of things going on. I I I'd ask you, you know, if you have some 98 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:50,639 questions of me or things that >> Hold on. Why don't you just come to the 99 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:52,319 table and then we can have if you wanted to help out here or whatever. 100 00:07:52,260 --> 00:07:55,039 [clears throat] >> Yeah. 101 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:59,800 » I mean, you're filling in for Caroline. I should have invited you earlier. I 102 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 apologize. 103 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:07,680 » I just can't have from the sidelines because if I do that, 104 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,919 right? All right. All right. So, you have any questions 105 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:18,479 since this is right in your >> No, I mean I think I think um 90,000 the 106 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,800 the discussion that we had at the last meeting was that and I'll I'll speak 107 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:28,960 from what I remember is that everybody was supportive of putting the new 108 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:33,360 equipment in. There was not as much support. there's not wasn't decided as 109 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:37,599 to whether or not the the rubberized flooring or whatever it's called 110 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:42,640 » was really needed or not at both places, right? So, so um $90,000 using the 111 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:47,279 existing material on the base I think would be well in line with what was in 112 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,240 general would have been supported at the last meeting and by and we've got three 113 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 members of the cattle committee here tomorrow. But I think that's that's 114 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:57,120 [clears throat] a really good solution. Can they get it 115 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,640 done in time for school? No, it's a six week lead time on the product to arrive. 116 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:04,800 Um, >> so they're thinking uh the whiskaner, 117 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,200 they're trying to get that one done. Um, not before school, but you know, this 118 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,640 fall. >> Yeah. 119 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:15,200 » This one uh if we commit to it, it it may get in before wintertime or it would 120 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:18,800 be right when the spring opens. 121 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,000 » And if we wanted to in the future, we put the new equipment in. Let's say 122 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,800 that's approved. We then can put in the rubber board around it. 123 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:29,440 » You can. >> Yeah. I think that was something that we 124 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:34,480 all agree was not a great those No, no, those 125 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:39,920 » they're not they're not >> those chips, the rubber chips, right? 126 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:44,560 They're not very >> But again, yeah, it's 127 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,440 » it doesn't doing the doing the equipment doesn't preclude at a later date 128 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:48,720 deciding to do the >> correct 129 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,080 » redo that. >> Yeah. And now the other thing was we 130 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:57,200 were looking at CLS in in association with what parks and recck was possibly 131 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,320 looking at for I don't know if it was kids kingdom or somewhere else to maybe 132 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,560 get a good price but seems like you've negotiated a very good price on this 133 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,440 kind of independently from that. So I don't know if waiting on this makes a 134 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:12,240 lot of sense. >> Run this down for me just so we have a 135 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:18,440 thing. So what did the boiler end up? Is that number still 341979 or what did 136 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:18,440 that end up at? 137 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:23,120 So yes, it's going to be we've already given like 174. 138 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,120 » Okay. >> Uh we've been half down, I believe. But 139 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,839 yes, it's going to be the cost that >> So in your original you had 200,000 in 140 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:35,360 for the CLES place cut from this document at our last meeting. 141 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:39,680 » Correct. Because that also included what we considered our caller was just 142 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,800 talking about in place too. And we're saying that's not really a necessity and 143 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:50,880 we can do this without that. So then how much was the W playscape without doing 144 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:55,839 the $15,000 worth of digging? >> So at uh I believe I asked I asked for 145 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,200 $45,000 >> here. 146 00:10:56,079 --> 00:10:58,880 » I think we authorized >> 75. We 147 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:04,399 » was that >> we talked about 38. Uh Brian asked me to 148 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:11,120 help get them down to and uh and then I got them down to 365. Right. 149 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:14,880 » I keep 365 >> and 15,000 to make it. Right. Right. 150 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,959 » Right. >> Yes. 151 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:19,959 » So that's 415. Right. 515. 152 00:11:21,839 --> 00:11:26,519 » And this is down now to 90. 153 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,040 » Yes. >> And that quote for the work just came in 154 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:36,800 today to parks and recreation. So Laura shared that with me. That's not my, you 155 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,560 know, she quotes all that out for the actual work done on the playscape. 156 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:44,720 » So, we authorized the 38 already. >> That's the thing you authorized. 157 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:51,600 » Yes. >> So, we'd need another 158 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:54,560 » 16. Well, I was plus the 90 16 and 90 105ish. 159 00:11:52,959 --> 00:11:59,680 » Well, we authorized >> 38, right? Well, 160 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,079 1.5k less. So, >> 10 103.5. 161 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:10,880 That's what they need. >> Yeah, I'd call 1045 just to be 162 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:14,160 » for both W [music] for everything except for in place. That 163 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,279 would have that would be all the requests except for the foreign place 164 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,240 which we're I think we're >> Yeah. 90,500 for 165 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:26,639 » for CL >> and 15,000 for WMS, 166 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:31,279 » right? >> Might be 15. 167 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:34,959 » Well, that's you have 1.5 extra from >> Yeah. Let because you under spent on the 168 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,240 equipment. >> What is the latest on the new school 169 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,959 » that we had an update in two months? >> The new school? 170 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,920 » Yeah. The the what we have left. What's the balance? 100,000 a million 200 171 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,760 million. >> One of the things 2 million 172 00:12:47,013 --> 00:12:52,320 [clears throat] >> I have a number 173 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,920 » because we're going to ask the NBC to come to the board of selectment and the 174 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:01,519 board of finance in September and give us a another financial update. They've 175 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:04,800 given us indications. I don't have Do we have a solid number on that yet? 176 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:10,079 » She's she's looking. >> Um I have a number based on incumbrances 177 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,240 outstanding. >> Okay. 178 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,600 » Um um my number is a little bit different 179 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:22,000 than Emily's cuz hers is cash basis. Mine's an acrruel basis. Um and I don't 180 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:27,040 have the final payables because she won't give them to me until NBC approves 181 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:32,639 them on their August meeting next week. So I've put in estimates but it should 182 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:40,040 we've already encumbered the money. So um what we have uncommitted 183 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:40,040 is um 184 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:50,639 um $1150 for administ 1,0001 150 for administrative costs um a little less 185 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:58,160 than 600,000 for the offsite work which is the baseball fields um and 55,000 186 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:04,160 for owner's contingency. Um >> so what's the total there? uh 656. 187 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,360 Although the legal fees are continuing, so they'll they're going to have to come 188 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:10,480 out of these numbers. >> What are they like? What's the run rate? 189 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 20,000 a month. >> 20 to 30,000 190 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,600 » a month. >> Yeah. 191 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:21,120 » Um so you know more about this than I do. 192 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:23,120 The negotiations OMG, what is still outstanding? Do we 193 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:29,600 » That don't know that. >> See, that's going to be the killer. So, 194 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:33,760 there's a million dollars um in um um construction 195 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:40,639 um that's still a contingency in there, but what we don't know is, you know, oh 196 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:44,000 um 75% we're definitely going to have to spend or 25% we're going to have to 197 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,360 spend. That's where we >> There's two buckets of money, right, 198 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:52,320 that we talk about when we do this. >> A million of of um 199 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:58,240 » this this was one bucket, this 656, but there's another bucket with a million. 200 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,639 the G contractor's contingency >> and that 201 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,320 » that's where we're spending the money on the lawyers negotiating with them 202 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:08,720 » for all of the things who we think weren't done right. They say they were 203 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:12,399 done right and they're going back and forth and back and forth and that's why 204 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:18,480 I asked Paul to come to the board of selection meeting in September. Uh 6 205 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:23,120 months ago there were 120 some odd items in dispute. 206 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:27,040 » Wow. So out of that 656, how much of it was for the baseball field? 400,000. 207 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:30,480 » It was 400,000 for >> the field that we sort of So it's 208 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,040 uncommitted, but it's committed, >> right? 209 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:36,000 » Right. So what is uncommitted uncommitted right now out of that fund 210 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,360 roughly? >> I would take that total number six and 211 00:15:38,959 --> 00:15:45,920 656. So that would be 256. >> I I would say the only thing that's 212 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:50,320 uncommitted is the owner's contingency at 55,000. 213 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,720 » That's the owner. Uh, that's what I believe the 214 00:15:55,279 --> 00:16:02,639 » and 1,150. >> Yeah, that's fine. 55. We've been 215 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:08,680 holding off on Whisker and baseball field projects to make sure that we keep 216 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,680 this project. 217 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:18,279 » Are you looking to get to see if we can fit this there? Is that what you're 218 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:18,279 thinking? 219 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,759 It's all going to come back to the town. I know, right? So, if we don't spend it, 220 00:16:22,079 --> 00:16:29,680 it comes back to the town. But is it cleaner to utilize it for the CLES, the 221 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:33,040 55,000, and put that towards the CLS, >> the [snorts] 90 222 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:38,320 » 90,000 that he needs? >> I I would be hesitant to use any of this 223 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:43,199 without the NBC's blessing. >> Um, and so I would say it's all going to 224 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:48,880 end up in the same pocket when we're done, our pocket. Um, and I would do it 225 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:54,000 as separate transactions and not take it from here. We have capital non-recurring 226 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:58,880 funds. We've got a million80,000 that is not uh designated for any project at 227 00:16:57,199 --> 00:17:03,120 this time and and we still have money that will be 228 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,360 coming there from the general fund this year. 229 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,720 » And we have to be careful with the state grant and the bonding on CLES moving 230 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,760 funds. >> That's what I'm worried about because 231 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,280 CLES is still under the new construction. Is it easier to take that 232 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:18,720 55 and say it's part of the new construction process still? 233 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,640 » We could do that, but I agree with Marcia. I'd be very reluctant to touch 234 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:28,319 that funding until we know exactly where that project goes. That's fine. 235 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:31,520 » At what point then do we sit down with the NBC? You said you're going to sit 236 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:36,400 down with them. At what point do you sit down with them and we outweigh the 237 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:40,480 fighting versus the payback? At 30,000 a month, if we're only fighting over 238 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,520 $15,000, we're chasing bad money. At what point? Who who's assessing that 239 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:48,720 right now? >> Um, I've been having discussions with 240 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:53,120 Paul and and Josh, mostly Paul to say, "We got to get this done." And they're 241 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:57,679 in mediation nonstop here, and that's why it's costing us 20 to 30,000 in 242 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:04,000 legal fees. And my point to them was, you are burning money on legal fees. 243 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:09,600 Sit. Just pick the number. It may be higher than what you think is the right 244 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,880 number to settle this, but at $30,000 a month, 245 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,720 » it's not worth it's a zero sum game. 246 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 » Yeah. >> One more question and then we'll move 247 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:22,720 on. Is who's the ultimate decision maker? Is Paul the ultimate decision 248 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:26,720 maker or can you overrule it as a town official? I mean, you it's a committee, 249 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:32,000 so you sit over that committee, don't you? Can you just say this is it? 250 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:36,960 Enough's enough or not? I do not know the answer to that. I will ask the 251 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:41,679 town's attorney. The NBC has significant >> I agree and I agree and I respect that 252 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,200 power, but at some point we got to figure this out. 253 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,120 » Oh, I agree. >> Cuz it's dwindling and we have expenses 254 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:51,440 that we got to cover. All right. >> I think we should put this topic on the 255 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,679 next meeting as a No, it's 256 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,840 » Well, we're going to ask him to come before the board of select in September. 257 00:18:55,919 --> 00:18:59,919 We think I going to suggest they come to you too 258 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,679 » and have them. >> I have a question though. 259 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:07,679 » If it expires in 30 days, >> are we screwing something up or no? For 260 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,640 that Oh, that's what we're doing. Okay, we're 261 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:12,799 going back to that. Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought I didn't mean I thought we were 262 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,600 tableling everything >> for the math of it all. The best quote 263 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:22,640 that came in for the work at WMS to redo kind of the fill is 15450. 264 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:26,559 » Okay. So, I just >> I want to be digging the process. So 265 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,200 » digging the hole, refilling. >> Got it. 266 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:31,360 » Yeah. >> So just 267 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:34,720 » can you give me the the maybe Marshia this might be for you. I don't know who 268 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,200 knows this might be attention. [music] C do we 269 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:44,400 can you give me the latest number of how much the the board of ed is returning 270 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:48,240 back to the town from last year broken into the the special ed versus 271 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,880 everything else because the numbers moved around a little bit and maybe 272 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,520 they're finalized. Does someone know that? 273 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,960 » I think the meeting has been moved to tomorrow night. Monday. 274 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,760 » Monday. So, we have not gotten the report. 275 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:03,640 » Do we know what the last because I have numbers? 276 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,640 » I think 300. 277 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,280 » I have a chart that had special ed at 285. 278 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,200 » I just have so many different numbers. They're all about the same. 279 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:23,840 » I know. I can't remember the last meeting 280 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:27,039 » for me. actually carried on. >> So the BOE is not meeting tomorrow. 281 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:30,799 » No, >> she did. She 282 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:37,280 » is business and operations and >> Okay. So, so let's you know what on the 283 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:40,480 on the June 26th memo, it said we expect to return to the town 679,000. 284 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:42,159 » Yes. >> Okay. So, 285 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,720 » okay. >> Both buckets. 286 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:50,000 » That's both buckets. And the special ed number is something under 300ish. 287 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:53,760 » Close to but a little bit under >> like 297. And we said 341 for the 288 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,559 boiler. >> Well, I got that. I'm going to go let me 289 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:02,880 let me put it together. So, let's just say it's 300 for special ed and then 290 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:08,240 that leaves 379 for everything else. >> Okay. Just if it's just 679. 291 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:16,480 » So, the boiler is 342. The the whisker equipment was we 292 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:26,360 authorized 38. It's 365, right? And then the to go is 90.5 293 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,360 + 15.5. So 91.56 294 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:32,559 » 106. Yeah. >> Call it 105 because you understand the 295 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,960 other thing. So you add up the 342 38 105 that's 485. 296 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:42,240 So for those three projects which is what was requested would be 485 297 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:50,000 » of which 679's coming back. Now 379 298 00:21:45,919 --> 00:21:52,880 is school underrun. The 300 for special ed, we always said we're going to give 299 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:58,240 you more and hopefully that's going to come back. But contributing about 300 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:01,440 $100,000 of that underrun towards this to me makes a lot of sense. 301 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,240 » Yeah. Yeah. And the boiler thing was something that we 302 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,760 » Yeah, the boiler absolutely right. So >> yeah, 303 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:12,559 » my view is authorizing and I don't know how we execute this but authorizing 304 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:16,080 additional 105 to get these the playcape this placecape done at both places and 305 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,159 be done with all this. Let them go execute 306 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,640 » and meet this dirty date >> is the is the right thing to do. 307 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:23,679 » I second that >> less your thought. 308 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,840 » Yeah, I agree. John, >> you want to get it done quicker? 309 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,039 » I agree with that. >> It's [clears throat] using this money. 310 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,679 » Yeah. Now how do we >> we can approve it upon you guys to 311 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:38,080 approve it, right? So we can approve it upon the board of selectment approval 312 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:42,640 approving. Right. So I can make a motion to approve $105,000 313 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:48,480 for the set three pride for the pride for the two projects CLA 314 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:52,720 and WMS >> based upon the final approval from the 315 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:56,960 board of selectment >> and the funding come out of I think CNR. 316 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,320 » Yeah. Funding coming from CNR. >> CNR Marshall. That's where this stuff. 317 00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:02,480 » Yeah. >> All right. Then I'll make the motion. 318 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,640 » I'll second it. >> I'll make the motion that we approve 319 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:13,280 $105,000 for the CLLE Playscape and WMS 320 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Playscape. Uh that would come out of No more than 105,000 321 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:21,919 to come out of the CNR funding. Do I have a second? Second. 322 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:23,679 » We've discussed it. Correct. Everybody good with this? 323 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,240 » Yep. Yes, Mr. >> Y. 324 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,080 » All right. All in favor? Hi. >> All right. 325 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,039 » Thank you very much. >> Get her done. 326 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,436 » Yeah, really appreciate it. >> Any other questions or updates that 327 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,919 » any more discounts you can get? [laughter] 328 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:45,120 » Keep trying. >> Can you do something on kids? 329 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:47,440 » Budget process. >> Yeah, we 330 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,520 don't know. >> I don't have anything to show. 331 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,760 » Okay. >> So, we will be uh we have a business and 332 00:23:51,600 --> 00:24:00,799 operations meeting on Monday night. At that time uh we will be discussing a new 333 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:07,440 budgeting process uh that we are hopeful uh will provide uh more clear uh 334 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:10,480 communication in organization to uh anyone who's kind of following along in 335 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,159 the process but also when we're collaborating and working with you all. 336 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:18,960 So we are eager to go through that process. It is in draft format. Uh so 337 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,159 the business operations team will first review it, give feedback on it. I 338 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,640 believe they've been looking at it and we'll get feedback that night. We'll 339 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:28,159 make any revisions that they [music] recommend. Then we'll bring it to the 340 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:32,480 full board on Wednesday night following that Monday night meeting for even more 341 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,240 review and recommendations. Once completed, we would like to to bring it 342 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:40,400 to you all and and share it with you. So that way um we can all be on the same 343 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:45,039 page with how we go about the budgeting process and how we can uh support 344 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:50,240 getting to a budget that meets the needs of the schools and community. 345 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:53,200 » Okay, any questions? Les, I know you went to the one meeting and the notes 346 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:58,480 were amazing. >> Yeah, I was glad to hear that that 347 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:00,880 process is is more than underway. >> Absolutely. 348 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:04,799 » It's going to help a lot. >> Okay. I mean, you followed along pretty 349 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:09,279 well. So, you're good with all of that? >> I am. 350 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:13,840 » Okay. Thank you for coming. [laughter] >> Anything you ladies like to add before 351 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:16,400 we call it here? >> No. 352 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:21,039 » All right. Well, thank you all for >> everything. Thank you all very much. I 353 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:24,960 appreciate it. [clears throat] >> This is attorney Rose. 354 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:28,080 » I know. We're going to make a motion to go into executive, 355 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:34,520 right? >> Um just one sec. 356 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,520 » Is Kermit joining us? 357 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200 » Thank you all. Have a good night. 358 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Yeah, I don't want to have 359 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,600 » do that. I'm paying 5,000 an hour right now. The lawyers, 360 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,039 » I would make that motion now. I can do all my stuff. 361 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,320 » Great. >> We were going to make it anyway. 362 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,880 » I know. [laughter] >> All right. I'd like to make a motion 363 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:07,440 that we go into executive session to discuss legal terms. We are going to 364 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,080 invite Marsha. No, >> I don't need to be here. 365 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:15,679 » You're not here. Okay. Okay, we'll invite the two attorneys to the table 366 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:21,919 then. And uh do I have a second? [music] >> I'll second. There you go. Last. 367 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,919 » All in favor? Hi. Okay, we'll enter 368 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:26,080 All right, we're back on. >> All right, I'd like to amend my motion 369 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:31,840 to go into an executive session. I'd like to make a motion that we go into 370 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:36,960 executive [music] session to discuss pending litigation with attorney Mike 371 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,960 Rose and Sherry >> Adams. Adams 372 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,120 » from Ker >> from [music] Karma. Do I have a second? 373 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,159 » I will second. >> All in favor? I 374 01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:54,440 You're back. 375 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:05,360 » Back on. Marshall, you're back on. >> We're back on. Steve, can you take us 376 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:09,040 now to your report? >> Sure. Uh, just uh I won't cover 377 01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:13,920 everything that I have because I don't want to take an hour of your time. our 378 01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:19,040 union negotiations. We are pretty close on the police in the ranges that we have 379 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:25,040 discussed. I think we're going to end up with a a pretty good agreement. Uh CSEA 380 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:30,239 is a little bit behind that. We've made a final offer to them. Uh they'll come 381 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:36,239 back to us. I think it again will be in the same range and with um some tweaks 382 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:40,800 to some things, you know, you always have that with union negotiation. I 383 01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:46,320 think we're going to stay within the numbers that I had told you last year in 384 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:51,600 the budget season, right? I don't want to name those numbers. We're good. We 385 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:57,199 will be there. Um >> the cell tower, they had a hearing last 386 01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:02,480 this week. This week? No, last week. Um and they pretty much finalized what 387 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:06,800 they're going to do. the uh commission has not the sighting council has not yet 388 01:17:04,719 --> 01:17:10,880 made a formal decision but they kind of issue their preliminary for people who 389 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:14,833 go in and say no that's not what I said no this isn't correct no it should have 390 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:17,280 been this I don't anticipate a change [cough] 391 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:25,440 I think they will be putting that cell power in um on the gas compressor 392 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:33,040 station we did deep has reopened uh the project and we are applying for 393 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:37,040 an adjudic atory hearing and we have four pieces of paper that people have to 394 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:42,719 fill out so they don't say to us again we didn't do this right. I think we will 395 01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:46,480 get the adjudicatory hearing. Um my understanding is that they also agreed 396 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:51,840 one of the things we really wanted was ambient air testing on an ongoing basis 397 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:56,000 outside the plant. Uh I understand that's they're going to consider that 398 01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,159 and do that. the electric gas compressors. Uh that's still a hard no, 399 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:04,640 but we're still going to push for that if we get the adjudicator hearing and at 400 01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:13,520 least we get it on record. You know, zero emissions are better than 3.9 tons, 401 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:18,320 right? So, how can you as the en environmental 402 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:24,400 organization of the state not say, "Hey, gas compressors, no, use electric. They 403 01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:30,880 are much more expensive." Let's say they were $50 million more and they've got a 404 01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:36,000 million downstream clients. Those compressors last for 50 years, right? 405 01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:41,199 So, it's a million dollars a year divided by a million clients. That's a 406 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:46,560 dollar a year per client. That's 16 cents per client per month. 407 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:52,960 And they have way more than a million clients. So, we'll see where that ends 408 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:56,960 up. uh the fire commission uh a fire uh EMS ordinance. The fire commission, 409 01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:02,320 we're going to have a hearing on August 19th to uh review that again like we did 410 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:06,400 before and then a board of selection meeting right after that to approve it 411 01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:10,960 and adopt it. We have agreement from all the members of the committee and they 412 01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:17,600 tell us that all of the firemen and EMS are all in favor. So that should pass 413 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:22,560 through. Um, Brooks Quarry, we are entering into an agreement where the 414 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:30,320 town will be the conduit for a $2.5 million grant they were awarded to 415 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:34,560 improve the entire facility. They're going to go through almost rebuild the 416 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:38,560 ADA, so they meet current things. They're going to fix up the kitchens. 417 01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:44,400 They're also applying for another $2.5 million grant. So, if we get $5 million 418 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:47,600 for grants, that is going to become one of the finest facilities of its type in 419 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,640 the state. Very nice. >> It's going to be really nice. I don't 420 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,440 know if anybody here has been in those units. 421 01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:57,760 » You have you. So, you know what we're talking They're pretty rund down. 422 01:19:55,280 --> 01:20:02,159 They're livable, but they're not nice. >> So, that's good. That's a win. The 423 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:07,280 pickle ball court. >> Phone call after phone call. It should 424 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:11,040 be fixed within the next 5 to seven days, right? 425 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:15,120 uh really talk about the pickable court 426 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:19,600 anymore. Um again, we're asking going to ask the NBC to join us at the board of 427 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:26,080 select committee meeting uh in September to do exactly what we talked about 428 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:29,840 already. Where are we? Okay. Um let me see if there's anything else you really 429 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:32,840 need to know. Um 430 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:40,239 » no, I'm gonna I'm going to call that day. Oh, park and parks and rec. We 431 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:44,080 appointed Bradley Ko to the board. I think he's going to be a great addition. 432 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,719 He's a really good guy. >> Eileen's husband. 433 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:50,320 » Oh, any questions for me? 434 01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:53,840 » We're Marca is going to talk about beginning with Lake Bridge. When we get 435 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,080 to that, I'll let her run through the finances of where we are. 436 01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,640 » I have two questions. One, have you got a police station quote 437 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:07,360 yet? >> Uh, no we do not. We are That is on my 438 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:11,600 list, but I didn't bring it up. Um, we were supposed to have a quote by the end 439 01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:16,159 of last week. We don't have that yet. Um, we we can't move forward without it. 440 01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:22,080 If we use the numbers [clears throat] from the community center ad hoc new 441 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:26,800 build, I think it was $625 a square foot for a new build. Um, I'm 442 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:31,040 not sure the square footage of the police station. 443 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:36,560 I get that. So, we're talking more than we probably originally estimated, but I 444 01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:40,480 don't know the number. And we can't move forward without that number. We have to 445 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:43,040 understand what it is we're being asked to spend as we have. 446 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:46,560 » And when do you think you'll have that number? Cuz there's a number floating 447 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:51,280 around town. I can tell you that right now. It's $38 million. 448 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:54,000 » 38 million is the number I'm hearing. >> Yeah. That's a big number to all the 449 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,800 time. >> I don't know the number. No one has come 450 01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:01,120 to me. Jay has not come to me yet. But I want that number by the end of this 451 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:07,679 month because we want to move this process forward and it's gonna take 452 01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:11,520 months to get this to referendum. >> Anything else? Second question. 453 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:14,960 » I forgot it now. >> Are we time to go to finance? 454 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:18,880 » Yeah, it is time to go to finance. >> All right, 455 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:23,840 » I'll stop if you remember it. >> Okay. um it's first month and it's not 456 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:28,880 even a complete month in the budget that um revenues are fine that um it looks 457 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:34,400 low for taxes but it's exactly where it was on the same day last year and since 458 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:40,239 that came in we we've received millions um that um as far as the revenue 459 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:46,239 expected revenue we had two grants that we received in after our budget was done 460 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:50,560 one was a casino grant one time casino grant the other one was a supplemental 461 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:57,280 education grant which I believe is one time. Um the selectman um discussed 462 01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:00,880 they'd like to add the additional education money to the education budget 463 01:23:00,022 --> 01:23:06,320 [clears throat] that um um it's not required. There's a 464 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,760 formula. If you didn't go up by that amount of money, then you got to add it 465 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:16,880 to the budget or the difference to the budget. But we did. Um um but that is is 466 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,560 what they're thinking when they go through this. They didn't make any and 467 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:25,280 it doesn't have to be done at any particular time. They didn't make any 468 01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:31,840 motions to do it. Just so you know their thinking. Uh interest rates, we're 469 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:38,560 currently earning 3.72 to 3.75. Um the budget anticipated that we'll be 470 01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:44,000 getting 3.5 until November and 3.25. So we So as long as we're on target with 471 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:50,080 the cash that we have, we should be um um good with the interest rates. Any 472 01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:57,120 questions on revenue? No. >> Uh expenditures? Nothing exciting. 473 01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:02,960 » Any questions on expenditures? >> All right. Um capital um we're looking 474 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:11,199 for a transfer that the Canderwood Lake Road Causeway 475 01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:14,880 um is uh um we'd like to take the money out of small bridge repair and put it in 476 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:20,159 there. This was something I discussed with Ralph because I didn't realize that 477 01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:24,719 he was just going to sit on that 65,000. So when he wanted to add money in his 478 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:29,679 budget, I said, "No, use this first because it's bonded." And so we can't 479 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:34,719 just sit on it until he he needs to use it 5,000 at a time or something. Uh and 480 01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:41,760 so he said, "Fine." So we want to move that out of the uh small bridge repair 481 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:49,120 and into the causeway. that um the causeway um he got quotes um for an 482 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:58,639 engineered block system um uh from a company we normally use and 483 01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:03,679 um the um engineer came in and doesn't want the engineered blocks or the state 484 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:12,239 wouldn't allow the engineered blocks and so that um had to be replaced with rip 485 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:16,320 wrap um and we went out to bid. The place we got the quote from didn't bid 486 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:23,760 because they don't do rip wrap. They do engineered block. Um the other um bids 487 01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:29,920 came in between 275 and 450. We're looking at the low bidder. Um we've 488 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:38,880 never used that vendor. Um they had good um references. Um and so that is um what 489 01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:44,000 we'd like to do. In addition, um they are saying that they have to have the 490 01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:49,760 police outside services um for lane closures. Ralph says he's anticipating 491 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:55,120 doing this in October. He wants to add it to the budget, but hopefully he can 492 01:25:52,159 --> 01:26:00,880 save that cost because October is a slow time for his people and maybe he could 493 01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:08,239 use one police officer and one of his people or maybe two of his people um um 494 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:15,199 could do the that instead. Um but for right now, this is worst case. Um 495 01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:23,199 uh there's um a six- wheeled dump truck, a $325,000 496 01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:29,440 or $33,000 dump truck. It's now 308,000. And um the guidance uh wing and roof air 497 01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:35,639 conditioner needs $567 more dollars to close it out. Any questions on that? 498 01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:43,520 on the on the causeway stuff. We're going to bring that into the October 499 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:47,120 capital committee just to see if there's things we can learn about can we do the 500 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:52,800 process better so we don't get surprised. I'm not I mean the the having 501 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,679 police there when they were doing the repairs that probably should have been 502 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,719 known. The fact that the solution that we were planning on for a couple years 503 01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:02,159 all of a sudden wasn't viable and might be something that we couldn't have seen. 504 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:06,400 But we're going to try to see if there's anything we can do to prevent surprises 505 01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:09,120 like this going. >> I mean, it sounds like it was an 506 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:14,120 engineered block versus something else problem. Who would have known that? 507 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,120 » Yeah. Right. 508 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:19,040 » Okay. >> But something about the water and that's 509 01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:23,960 why we couldn't use this. I >> Yeah. I mean, we're just volunte. 510 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:31,199 » Exactly. [snorts] >> All right. Um and then audit update. 511 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,120 They've been out for their preliminary work. Oh, this is from last last month. 512 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:40,719 It was last month they were out. Uh they'll be back September 8th. Um and 513 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:45,920 the audit engagement letter we put on hold last time and I sent it out at that 514 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,600 meeting. Um no hurry in approving it, but um 515 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:51,840 » it's out there. Um >> that's it. 516 01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:56,960 » Put it on hold business. I do have a question and I know Miheit asked to go 517 01:27:53,920 --> 01:28:02,159 but back two meetings ago when we talked about the board of ed money and moving 518 01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:06,400 it and everything else you said oh it's not going to affect our ratio of fund 519 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:12,159 balance >> I had a calculation that that showed and 520 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:18,480 I probably had one of these powerpoints that showed that um we thought with the 521 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:22,880 revenue that is coming in a little higher and the expenditures that are 522 01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:28,080 coming in a little lower that we would still be at the same percentage like 523 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:32,639 down to the to the tenth of a percent. >> Now, that was like I think 19 something 524 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,840 if I remember correctly. >> Huh? 525 01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:38,880 » 19. >> So, then Steve mentioned that's we've 526 01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:44,400 got to flatten out at some point. What is our flatten out number? Is it going 527 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:49,360 to be 20%, 21%. What is our thing? And then what is it going to take to 528 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:55,600 maintain that if our budget goes up 3 1/2 to 4% a year? Because we sort of 529 01:28:52,320 --> 01:29:00,239 just like let it go and we didn't talk about each year the budget goes up the 530 01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:03,760 percentage if if the money remains the same our percentage dips. So, if we're 531 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:07,280 going to make a statement like we're going to be flat, what is our flat 532 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,360 number that we're going to work to? Because that's part of when we're doing 533 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:14,960 the budget. And then how are we going to maintain that [music] 534 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:18,480 within the budget? Because this year we just said, "Okay, it's just going to 535 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:22,159 meet. It's okay." But yet, we're going to go up 3 and a half to 4% next year. 536 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,199 How are we going to manage this? >> A fund balance policy, 537 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:30,400 » right? You know, that's >> overdue in updating. So, it's up to you 538 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:35,199 guys what that fund balance percent should be that um we should put on the 539 01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:38,960 agenda to update that because we were going to update it every 3 years and 540 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:43,360 it's been about five or six. >> Okay, let me let me jump in here. My 541 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:48,880 goal would be as first selection to have between 18 and 20%. That is above the 542 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:53,987 average well above the average of most towns but it gives us significant 543 01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:58,960 resources in case something came up. [music] Your second question is, I 544 01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:04,800 think, the more difficult one because if our budget goes up 3% a year, we would 545 01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:08,719 want our fund balance to go up 3% just to keep it where it was. We've had a lot 546 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:13,760 of good luck, not good luck, good planning, this board, my board in that 547 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:18,400 we have always been under on our expenditures [music] and over on our 548 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:21,920 revenue in the budget. So, we've been able to put a lot of those funds into 549 01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:25,520 that. They just roll into the general fund. that is going to be more difficult 550 01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:29,199 this year and I think it's going to be more difficult for the next two years 551 01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:34,000 coming. >> So we should plan for that and if we 552 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:40,159 plan to say okay here's our budget next year 553 01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:44,880 and it's going up x amount and we just can't afford that we have to make it 554 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:49,440 think about make a conscious decision of what's going to happen to our fund 555 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:52,480 balance at least understand. So if we're at 20, 556 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,880 » we should talk about it. We should have a meeting um agenda 557 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,440 » September or October meeting. [music] Just just spend some time on this. 558 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,320 » Yeah. >> Every indication and I've been doing 559 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:09,280 this now for 10 years. This budgets we've had a lot of good news, a lot of 560 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:11,360 good planning. This was the first year we teeter tottered. 561 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:16,719 » Yeah, we're right >> with the salary negotiations on the 562 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:20,639 board of ed side. We're struggling going to struggle with their needs. We're 563 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:24,400 going to struggle with our own needs. We're going to struggle 564 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:28,400 » and this is going to get away from us if we don't get on top of it because this 565 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:32,159 is the first time we teeter. We're always gone up and now we talk 566 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:35,600 plateauing and we said, "Oh, it's plateauing." But yet, if we're 567 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:39,600 plateauing, we got to figure out the number we want to plateau at and then we 568 01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:42,960 got to fully understand what is it going to take get to keep it there because 569 01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:47,679 there was no sense building this thing to 19% to have it go to 14%. that that 570 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:51,760 would be unacceptable in my >> in 2020. Our target was 18. 571 01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:54,960 » Okay. >> But um but we do have to look at 572 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:59,760 » but we were at the low end of the target when we chose 18 I thought because we 573 01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:04,480 picked an attainable number if my memory and other towns were like 20 and like a 574 01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:08,320 little bit above 20 but we said let's pick a number we can achieve and 575 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:12,239 readress it. Maybe I'm wrong. >> We had a chart way back two or three 576 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,159 years ago that had all the towns on it. >> We need that updated. I don't know how 577 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:20,199 to do that. >> Yes. So we definitely Dan made I don't 578 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,199 know if you did it. 579 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:27,840 » Thank you. >> But to your point just to hold our 580 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:29,600 balance of $700,000 of additional >> I'm just saying we can't lose sight of 581 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,960 that >> so much but that's a lot $700,000. 582 01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:38,159 » I know I'm freaking out. >> What I would like to hold off on that 583 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:42,560 discussion and I'll tell you why we're going throughout 584 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:47,840 residential properties have gone through the roof. It looks like commercial is 585 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:53,760 not. That means if residentials go up 60 and 586 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:58,800 commercial only goes up 20, we are going to be moving a significant portion of 587 01:32:56,239 --> 01:33:01,440 the tax burden from commercial to res. >> We already did that the last stream, 588 01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:05,199 Val, too. And it hurts. >> And and it wasn't this time. I think 589 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:10,719 it's going to be more difficult. >> We should have indications 590 01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:14,800 in early September where those numbers are going. Not hard numbers, but 591 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:21,040 indications from our reval company because that's going to affect how we do 592 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:26,400 this too. That's if if we go like New Milford went 60% up on residential and 593 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:31,600 11 12 on commercial >> in New Milford, it meant that an average 594 01:33:28,639 --> 01:33:36,480 $400,000 house with no tax increases, we're going to get an increase of 16% in 595 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:40,000 their taxes. We need to look at all of these things 596 01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:43,280 in conjunction with each other to see where we're going to end up. 597 01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:47,440 » All right. I think that's a good conversation to have and I perfect. 598 01:33:45,679 --> 01:33:53,199 » All right, everybody else. >> 24 is the last year we have fund 599 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:56,320 balances. We can update for 2025. Um but this 600 01:33:54,639 --> 01:34:03,040 » where are we? The yellow. >> Uh we're the yellow. Um so we're kind of 601 01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:05,520 mid-range. This is AAA towns. >> Um 602 01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:09,120 » okay. All right. We'll put it on the agenda for next. 603 01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:12,320 » Can you send me this? Cuz I I um I think I have an older one 604 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,840 » or I couldn't find maybe have it but I couldn't find it. 605 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,080 » All right. >> Cuz the one I we used to show it at the 606 01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:22,480 at the annual meeting with the town. Those are in you know 607 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:25,199 » whatever largest to small. So you can kind of see a lot easier where we 608 01:34:23,679 --> 01:34:27,920 » Yeah. And I can sort those when I'm not under pressure. No worries. 609 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,000 » You found it under pressure. Pretty good. 610 01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:34,239 » Remind me when you ask anything. >> Uh anything else questions? Everybody 611 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,320 good now? Glass you're good. All right, capital committee. You want to say 612 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,120 anything? >> Yes, we're going to get together as I 613 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,199 said on how it goes. >> All right. You got a date on that, 614 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:44,320 right? >> Yeah, it's already calendared. I think 615 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:47,040 it's the 13th. Double check. If you don't see on your calendar, let me know. 616 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:50,560 But I think somebody sent it out. I think you send it out. 617 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:55,520 » We'll go on to new business and I'll make a motion to approve the proposed 618 01:34:52,400 --> 01:35:01,440 transfers between projects in the bonded capital projects fund as shown on the 619 01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:06,239 attach report for the year end of 2026. Do I have a second? Looks like second. 620 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:09,920 » Uh I think we discussed it with Marcia. We She went through the numbers. We're 621 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:13,520 up. We're good with that. Moving. So hearing no more discussion. All in 622 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:18,560 favor? I >> motion passes 5. 623 01:35:16,719 --> 01:35:20,800 » Oh, I skipped all business. The audit engagement letter, but I think she said 624 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,800 it went out, right? >> It didn't go out. 625 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,480 » It didn't went out to you guys. >> It went out to us. Then Brian wanted to 626 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,679 read it. >> Yeah, which I did. 627 01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:30,560 » Okay. >> So, it's it's very detailed and they 628 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,040 protect themselves well, but it's appropriate. So, yeah, I'm fine with it. 629 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,600 We're good. >> All right. So, we don't have to discuss 630 01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:40,239 anymore. It's a done deal. Discuss. >> Um I I'll need your signature, but I 631 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,679 when I I don't have it printed tonight, so I'll get you. 632 01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:45,360 » Thank you. >> Okay. 633 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:49,920 » Uh other items >> hearing none. 634 01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:54,960 » There's nobody else here. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Do I have a second? 635 01:35:53,199 --> 01:36:00,719 » All in favor? Bye >> bye. 636 01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:04,480 » We're still on video, so don't worry. >> If you would sign that one. 637 01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:10,320 » Thank you, Brian. >> Just happen to have it with me. 638 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,320 Amen.