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Good afternoon everyone and welcome to
the regular council meeting of May 25th,

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2026.
The first thing that uh I would like to

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do is indicate that the last time we had
council meeting, we had to say goodbye

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to our interim CEO, Mr. Doug Lor and
this council meeting we would like to

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welcome
our new CEO Michael Derkott. So Michael,

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would you like to say a few words,
please?

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» Yes. Uh thank you, Mayor Council. It's a
privilege to be here formally uh and to

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uh begin learning more about the
community and supporting the team. Um, I

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was pretty humbled when I heard about
the parade you were throwing today, but

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then I learned that was for the bandits,
not for me. So, um, but, uh, um, excited

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to, uh, be here serving the community of
Brooks and look forward to working with

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council and staff to that end.

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And what we're looking forward to is the
bandit festivities that are going to

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happen at about 6:30, 7:00 out here in
the park. And we hope that you can

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attend as well as everybody else who is
here to uh cheer on the bandits on

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another championship round of hockey.
Winning the uh tournament again for the

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BCHL is quite an accomplishment.
The next uh item I'd like to get into is

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recognition of gold medalists for the
2026 Provincial Skills Canada

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competition. I understand that that
competition was held uh up in Edmonton

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at the beginning of May and we have
three students here who won in that

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championship. And at this point in time,
what I am going to do is I'm going to

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invite them up. And I also understand
that you're taking off uh to another

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competition in Toronto.
And when is that happening?

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» Tomorrow morning.
>> Tomorrow morning. Oh, so then I better

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get going here so you can so so you can
get out of here then. Okay.

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The first one is for Merrick.
Okay. In recognition of Eric Forier and

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Cade Hamry. So Kade is also coming up
here because I guess you were a team,

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right?
winning the gold medal in robotics

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category at the 2026 Provincial Skills
Canada competition held in Edmonton from

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May 6th and 7th of this year. So tell me
a little bit about robotics start.

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» Uh sure. So what we did over at that
competition is make a total of three

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robots to compete in this little uh
competition where we're supposed to uh

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fulfill certain objectives in a period
of time using uh just two robots that

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are controlled by us using controllers
and then one that runs on its own.

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» Okay. Well, congratulations
on your accomplishment. So, what we've

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got here,
I'll get I'll hand this one to you so

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you can open it and then I'll hand this
one to you. Okay. And then you can open

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that one. And then also at the skills
competition, Joseph over here in

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recognition of winning the gold medal in
the 3D game design category at the 2026

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Provincial Skills Canada competition. Uh
tell us a little bit about your 3D game

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design.
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inspired scene where we had to make a
fireplace and a statue to represent one

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of the four houses. I chose Ravenclaw.
So I Ego said,

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» "Okay,
I I'll I'll believe you, but I have no

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idea what that mean. I I guess I'm going
to have to get a little bit more

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technical in all this." But, uh, we'll
give you this one. What I'll do is I ask

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council to come up here and then you
guys can just stand in front here. We'll

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allow the media to take a picture of
you.

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» Before the media comes in, can I just
before they come in? Can I just get

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three guys? Sure.
>> Not that I don't want, you know, smile.

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Perfect.
Now, can I get everybody else?

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» Thank you to the parents and
grandparents that came along to witness

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today, too.

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» Get in the middle.

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So, in recognition of the Brooks Bandits
having won the uh I think it's the

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Hobie, no, what's it called? The Rogers.
>> No, no, the BCHL, but they have a

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different name for
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They won the Rogers Cup for the second
uh time in a row here, which is quite an

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accomplishment with all the other
trophies that they have uh garnered up.

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And I can still remember going to the
first tournament that I I think it was

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probably the first tournament they won
out in Somerside PEI.

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And uh you know I I was asked by the
media to come up into their box and talk

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a little bit about the Brooks Bandits
and how they have been doing. And uh

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this is at the end of the second
intermission and I said if they keep

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playing the way that they're going to
play they're going to win this

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tournament in Somerset and sure enough
they won the tournament and thereafter I

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think they've won about four or five uh
Centennial Cups and now have won the

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Rogers Cup a couple of times. So, the
Brooks Bandits and the organization have

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a lot to be proud of of what they've
accomplished within the city of Brooks

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over the past 10 years or more. And uh
that's again why we're wearing the

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jerseys and we'll be wearing the jerseys
out there for the barbecue as well. So

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anyways, I'll call the meeting to uh
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at
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38.
You have the agenda in front of you.

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Is there anything to add or delete from
the agenda as you see it?

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If not, it has been moved by councelor
Iddris that the agenda be adopted. All

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those in favor?
carried.

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You also have the minutes from the
regular council meeting of May the 11th.

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Any questions on the minutes?

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Seeing none, it's been moved by
councelor Nesbet that the minutes from

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the re regular council meeting held May
the 11th, 2026 be approved. All those in

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favor?
Carried. Any

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business arising out of the minutes?
None.

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Okay. We also have correspondence and
information and update from council

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conferences and or workshops. And we
also have information from the uh Brooks

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uh public library statistics.
Any questions?

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» Okay. It's nice to see.
>> See, seeing none, it's been moved by

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councelor Falenberg that the following
items of correspondence

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uh be received
as information, the update on council

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conferences andor workshops and the
information on the Brooks Public Library

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statistics. All those in favor?
Carried.

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We now have policy uh-
01-00001B,

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the city policy uh manuals and policy
review, and that will be presented by a

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manager of legislative services, Amy
Fonuro.

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» Thank you. Through the chair to council,
there are two policies before you uh

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this evening. One policy outlines the
process for updating the city's policy

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and procedure manual once policies are
approved by council and the other policy

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outlines the process for reviewing
policies. Administration is proposing

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that the policies be combined into one
as they are relatively similar.

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Therefore, administration recommends
that council approve policy L001-00001B

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and resend policy L001-00008.

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» Thank you very much. Are there any
questions?

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Okay, seeing none, it's been moved by
councelor Johnson that council approve

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policy L001-00001B

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entitled city policy manuals and policy
review and further that policy

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L001-00008

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entitled policy review be rescended. All
those in favor

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carried.
The next one is policy L001-029B

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mural approval policy and again that
will be member of manager of legislative

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services Amy Fonuro.
>> Thank you again through the chair to

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council. The mural approval policy
outlines the process for approving large

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murals that are placed on buildings
within the city. Applicants are required

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to provide timelines, inventory
mock-ups, as well as a maintenance plan.

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The updated policy has all mural
submissions being approved by council

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committee rather than splitting public
and private murals to committee or

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council.
And the policy was presented at the last

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council committee meeting and a minor
change was made to the definition of

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submission to make it more clear as per
council committee's direction.

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Therefore, administration recommends
that council approve the policy.

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» Thank you very much. Are there any
questions on the mural policy?

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Okay, seeing none, it's been moved by
councelor Phillipsson that council

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approved policy L-00001-029B

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entitled mural approval. All those in
favor?

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carried.
The next item is policy F-002-028A,

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memorial policy. And again, Miss Fonura.
>> Thank you again through the chair to

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council. The memorial policy outlines
the process for addressing and

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recognizing staff, firefighters, Brooks
RCMP officers, and members of council in

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the event of a death.
The policy now applies to all city staff

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rather than only permanent full or
part-time employees that work a specific

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number of hours per week. Again, from a
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there was a small change made to the
policy to make the response to and

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recognition of a death more clear.
Therefore, administration is again

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recommending that council approve this
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» Thank you very much. Are there any
questions?

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Okay, seeing none, it's been moved by
councelor Ragnner that policy or council

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approved policy F002-028A

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entitled memorial policy. All those in
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carried.
The next item we have is resend policies

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and the uh again it'll be Amy Fonura
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Thank you very much. Through the chair
to council, there are five policies in

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front of you that administration is
recommending be rescended.

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The first policy is for the
incorporation date and a policy is not

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needed to uh declare Brooks's
incorporation date as we have a

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certificate that has this information on
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The second policy relates to charitable
donation and that states that the city

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does not make charitable donations.
However, that's not our current practice

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as the city does provide funding to uh
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currently.
The freedom of the city policy was first

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introduced by the local Aircadet
Squadron to celebrate their 75th and

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Canada's 150th anniversary. Freedom of
the city was granted to them. However,

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no other requests have been received
since 2017.

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And in 2010, the Centennial logo policy
was created. uh in conjunction with the

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city's centennial celebration. We used
that logo for some time. However, it's

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no longer used and the policy is no
longer needed. And finally, the last

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policy is a flag loan policy and this is
not required to be a council policy.

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This can be an internal staff procedure.
And at the com council committee meeting

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last week, there was discussion on the
freedom of the city policy and it was

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recommended that administration draft a
policy to recognize exceptional citizen

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contributions to replace the freedom of
the city policy. Therefore,

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administration is recommending that all
five policies are rescended.

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» Thank you very much. Are there any
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Councelor Johnson.
Thank you through the chair to uh Miss

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Fonura. I didn't have any questions. I
just wanted to say thank you very much.

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A lot of these policies were out of date
and it's about time we got, you know,

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some updated policy. So, I appreciate
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» Councelor,
>> um thank you again. Uh my question is

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regarding the the the historical
policies like for example the policy on

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the centennial uh logo. Um if if someone
50 years from today wanted to research

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the logos of Brooks in in in in some of
the policies or some of the things like

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would we find these archived like how
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» through the charity counselor address?
Yes, we keep a copy of all of the

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rescended or outdated policies. They're
just kept in a separate folder. So, and

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not included in our policy manual. So,
if in the future uh someone wants to

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research it, they'll still be there as
long as we follow the current practices

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we are now, but they're just not in our
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» Okay. Are there any other questions?
>> Okay. Seeing none, it's been moved by

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councelor Nesbet the council resend
policy L-00001-018

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entitled incorporation date policy
L-00001-019

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entitled charitable donations
policy L-00001-00004

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entitled freedom of the city policy or
city uh next one is policy L001-

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- 027 entitled city centennial logo and
policy F-002-013A

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entitled flag loan. All those in favor
carried.

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The next topic that we will have is the
community partnership plan 2026 2029 and

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this was also discussed at council
committee and this is being brought

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forward by inclusion coordinator Robin
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» Thank you very much through the chair to
mayor and council. The welcoming and

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inclusive communities committee was
formed in April of 2025 and it has since

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been working to develop a community
partnership plan that outlines the

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priorities for the next three years. The
plan was shaped through community

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engagement including surveys and roundt
discussions allowing us to hear directly

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from our residents about their needs and
opportunities for partnership. It aligns

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with the strategic council's strategic
plan under the community building pillar

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with a focus on inclusion, belonging,
and barrier reduction. The plan does

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provide guiding framework for the wick
committee and the inclusion coordinator

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emphasizing collaboration with community
partners and building on work that's

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already happening to avoid duplication
and strengthening the overall impact.

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This was previously reviewed in council
committee and it is now being brought

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forward for formal adoption.
administr uh there are three options

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before council. The first one is to
adopt the plan. The sec um the second

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one is to request changes to the plan
and the third one is to refer it back to

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uh back for further community
engagement. Administration is

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recommending that council formally adopt
the community partnership plan for the

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years 2026 to 2029.
>> Thank you very much. Are there any

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questions?
>> Make a comment.

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» Yep. Go right ahead. Councelor Nesmith
>> through the chair to inclusion

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coordinator Robin. So um I like it all.
Boy, what a lot of work and effort put

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into that whole proposal and and thank
you for that. And I like what it all but

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particularly like the commitment of
individuals that section and it says

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great things happen when those who are
involved share a personal comm personal

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commitment and passion for achieving a
more just and equitable society for all.

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One way that this can be fostered is by
encouraging and involving staff at all

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levels of municipal government and our
community members. And I'm really

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emphasizing our community members just
as a whole. These are not these um I

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feel and you can you can um tell me if
this is right, but these initiatives are

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not just for our new Canadians, but we
really want our whole community to get

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involved. Isn't that correct?
>> Through the chair to councelor Nesbbit.

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Yes. The hope is that all of the
community will be involved um with the

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partnership plan and the things that are
happening within the community to make

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everybody feel welcome and belonging.
>> Excellent. Thank you.

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» Are there any other questions?

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Okay, seeing none, it's been moved by
councelor Raggner that council formally

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approve the welcome and inclusivity
uh partnership plan 2026 to 2029.

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All those in favor
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The next topic is the 202627
recreation rates and fees and that will

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be presented by manager recreation
services Tabitha Williams.

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» Hello. uh through the chair to to mayor
and council. As per policy C004001,

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recreation user fees, recreation rates
and fees are prepared by administration

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with proposed changes reviewed and
recommended by the board and district,

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sorry, the Brooks and District
Recreation Parks Board annually for

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council's consideration. To inform the
review, a sector average of recreation

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rates and fees was established by
canvasing more than a dozen Alberta

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municipalities, including Cochran,
Blackfs, Erdri, High River, and

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Okatokes. The attached rates and fees
schedule provides a comparison of

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current rates and fees against the
sector average as well as proposed rates

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and fees reflecting two, three, and 5%
increases, including the resulting

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variances from the current sector
average for each option. The recreation

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and parks board remains committed to
ensuring recreation facilities are

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affordable for Brooks and regional
community members and maintaining rates

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and fees at levels that encourage high
facility usage. At its April 15th, 2026

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meeting, the Brooksen District
Recreation and Parks Board passed a

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motion recommending a 5% increase to all
recreation rates and fees, excluding

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school rates associated with the joint
use and planning agreement. This is for

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the period of August 1st, 2026 to July
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Um, the options up for discussion today
are no increase um and raise the

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recreation rates and fees by 2%, 3% or
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Uh the financial implications will
depend on what obviously what rate you

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choose. Um and so the recommendation is
that the 2026 2027 proposed recreation

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rates and fees uh with a 5% increase be
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» Thank you very much. Are there any
questions? Councelor Rner.

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As we discussed in committee and being
on the rec board, the the numbers we

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have here, like there's some of the
individual user prices,

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we're probably under by majority of
them. Now, as as far as when you're

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trying to do a profit and a loss, having
these numbers is great to know what the

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difference is, but I'd be interested to
know the amount of users for each one.

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Like, are we losing on big ticket items?
Are we losing a lot to many users or

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just a couple users?
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example, uh, I just had it here for bulk
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of adults. Um,
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we're losing. That's on page uh
71. 2725. Do we sell an abundance of

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» uh through the through the chair to
councelor Ragnner? That isn't something

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that we take into consideration when we
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there's obviously room for improvement
on how we um advise council on

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increasing rates and fees, which is what
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year.
>> Okay. And yeah, next year I'd just like

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to see some numbers as far as the user
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» Okay. Thank you,
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» Um,
we have had a a robust discussion at the

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the council committee and and I
appreciate your um your approach that

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you wanted to look at it overall, bring
some sort of, you know, not not a not

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not a one percentage fits all, but
looking at all of these different

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factors uh for next year and I I look
forward to that. With that, I would like

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to make a small amendment to the motion.
Um, and I would like to uh say let's do

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an increase of 3% rather than 5%.

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» So, councelor Idris has moved that uh we
accept the 3%. Any other questions?

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Um, I'm also looking forward to the
review because you mentioned that we

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can't just talk about a swimming pool in
Taber or a swimming pool in Brooks

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because each swimming pool is different.
And I got the impression that at the rec

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board this was discussed at length. So
I'm okay going with the recommendation

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of the rec board which is 5%.
>> Thank you very much councelor Johnson.

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through the chair to my fellow council
member I with the 3% I guess my question

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is is is that what the understanding
that um parks and recck is going to

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bring us totally different numbers next
year is that what your thought process

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is or
>> whatever the data is going to tell you

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like I like I like I what I will go with
what what the data is going to tell you.

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» Okay. Thank you,
>> Councelor Netz.

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» Okay. I would suggest I would also
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reason being that I think that we need
to remain affordable for our families,

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youth, seniors, and all of our community
uh to utilize these rec center

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facilities. And the more we raise the
rates, the harder it is for families

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particularly to get there or just about
anybody. So that's the reason that I'm

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supporting the amended amount of 3%
please

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consideration

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» councelor Johnson
>> through the chair to Miss Tabitha I

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guess my question is because you
mentioned seniors seniors my

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understanding get a 50% off discount
correct

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I thought it was 50% off
through the through the chair to

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counselor Johnson uh there is a senior
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» Yeah,
>> that's reduced. I don't think it's 50%

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though.
>> But then if they're in the LICO, they

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would be reduced further, right?
>> Yes.

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» Right. Yes.
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so I guess my question is is
percentage-wise, and it's going to be

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hard roughly, can you tell us how many
pe people roughly are paying full price

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versus a discount of some sort? Roughly,
is it 50/50? Is it 7525?

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» That was a different conversation about
um the RFA program. After that

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conversation, it went out of my head.
So, sorry.

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» Uh through the chair, mayor and council.
So, those numbers are readily available.

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They're in our year-end report. Um we
just don't have them prepared for this

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meeting, but uh we have those numbers
from last year.

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» Okay. Thank you very much. Are there
councelor Ragner?

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» I believe to my council colleague u we
cut $119,000

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when we cut the programming uh
discounts. I think that was the number

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that you might be asking about. The the
question I have in all of this 2% 3% 4%

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5% 50%. Those numbers what do that what
does that equate in total revenue? If we

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up it by 5%, are we talking to generate
$150,000 of the $900,000 the pool for

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instance loses? Are we talking $20,000?
Like do we have a number that that's

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going to increase the value? Like what's
that final 5% 2% 3%.

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» We don't have a final number or um an
estimate even um because of the changes

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in the programs. we're looking at a
change in revenue quite substantially um

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from last year. So that last year
numbers wouldn't be indicative of what

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we would typically see like or what we
would be expecting to see this year.

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» But if you're asking for a 5% increase,
you're asking for 5% above last year's

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numbers of revenue of 280,000. You want
5% more. You want 2% more. You should

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have these numbers when you present them
to us. What are we what dollar value are

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you putting 5% on? Because if you can't
put a dollar value on it right now, I'm

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fine to go 0% for the community.
Like I I want to know what we're

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charging the community. If you're
telling us 5% is $15,000, I would rather

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give people 0% increase for $15,000. If
you're telling me it's going to

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represent $200,000, that it's an actual
difference in our tax base, let's look

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at that. But right now, I'd make a
motion for 0%.

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» okay. Councelor Falenberger,
through the chair to my fellow

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counselors. Um,
a 5% increase is an increase and it will

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definitely cost our
citizens more money. Um, but we're not

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talking about substantially jacking up
the price of everything. um with the

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rate of inflation over the last few
years, we need to keep up uh with

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covering our costs somewhat. We can't
continue to move along with the cost of

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our wreck just increasing every year and
to a point where we can no longer fund

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maintenance. Um we need to maintain what
we have and we can only do that if we

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increase uh revenue.
Councelor Nesbet

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» through the chair to fellow council
members. I do agree with what you're

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saying like we definitely do need to
keep up with the cost of living

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increases but 5% is quite a bit more
than the cost of living even for this

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year and it's happening on everything
and I think that I feel personally that

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it would be that we really like our
former CEO um Doug did always say that

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we'll always run deficits within our
recreational programs but what we added

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or what we're what I'm saying is that
there's a lot value to the mental and

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health wellness component to our to our
community and I think that that's why I

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would like to stick with 3%.

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» We're 2.75.
>> Councelor Rner.

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» I agree we need to generate more revenue
for the pool or like the rec center in

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general. However,
you know, if you're going by users

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themselves, upping the rates by 5% 10%
making an increase. if you up it by 5%

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but we lose 5% of the people that come
into there it's a wash and those other

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people are making that up and so like if
if nobody's good for for

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0% until we get actual numbers which my
motion would be zero um I'd go to the

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lowest one and I do agree with councelor
Falenberg that we want to make revenue

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but the last number I got was over
$900,000 a year that the Brooks pool

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itself lost you know when you're looking
at the utility facilities and everything

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else. Looking at our usage of our we
discussed that in the wreck meeting, you

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know, if we could up our usage of vacant
ice times and look at some different

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programs or some different approaches
for that. You know, look at some other

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ways that we can uh build on the
facility use versus the user is kind of

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the the goal I would have, but I'd like
I'd be in favor of anything uh anything

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on the lower scale of percentage.

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Thank you. Any other questions?
Seeing none, it has been moved by uh

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council
>> Oh yeah, the amendment is uh

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» two.
>> Yeah, there's two amendments now. One is

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to go to 3% and the other one is to go
to zero.

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Quarter.
>> Yeah.

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» You cannot deal with two amendments.
>> No, no, I know.

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» Yeah. So, so the first amendment is to
go to 3%.

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So, it's been moved by councelor Idris
that the 2026 27 proposed recreation

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rates and fees be amended to 3% increase
to be formally approved.

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Okay. All in favor?
So, that's five.

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Okay. Those opposed?
Two carried.

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Okay. What we'll do now is move on to
the uh public hearing, which we're a

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couple of minutes late. Sorry for that
people. But uh

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we will call the public hearing to order
at uh 504

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and it's bylaw 26-027
amendment to land use bylaw 1412

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and we'll call the hearing to order at
like I say at 504 and we'll have an

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explanation of the proposed bylaw
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Mr. Scott,
>> thank you. Through the chair, mayor and

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council, this evening, we're considering
a public hearing for bylaw 2020 or

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sorry, 2026 or 027.
This proposes to add a data center as a

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defined and regulated use to the land
use bylaw. As per the requirements of

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the municipal government act, a public
hearing must be held prior to council's

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decision on the bylaw. At the time of
writing my report, uh there were one

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submission received and then
subsequently we received three more

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submitts for council's consideration
and they are in your package. So I

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believe you've read them. Uh, Alberta's
artificial intelligence data centers

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strategy powering the future of
artificial intelligence sets the path to

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securing the province's position as the
most attractive place to build

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artificial intelligence data centers in
North America. From a pure land use

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planning perspective, the thematic focus
is on qual quantity of land power source

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and the externalities that come with the
use. In an urban setting, there are um

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business cases that are playing out
throughout North America for the

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development of smaller data centers that
do not necessarily cover quarter

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sections of land and provide their own
power source in conjunction with their

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development applications. Data center is
a secure building full of community

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computing equipment. The these store and
process and move digital information.

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They support things like streaming,
online banking, business systems, and

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artificial intelligence.
In simple terms, they are the physical

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backbone of the digital world. Data
centers do not need many workers.

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Building them can create short-term
construction jobs, but once they're up

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and running, they are mostly automated.
This is very different from factories or

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other projects that create many local
jobs. For council, it is important to

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understand that data centers act more
like infrastructure than the typical

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business. Their main value is not jobs,
but the role they play in supporting

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digital services and generating tax
revenue if they were set up set up

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properly. The proposed amendment is for
an industrial use. It is not to be

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confused with IT service that may be
provided by uh local businesses or to

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support local businesses.
In the case of any industrial use, the

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including including data centers is how
to define it, what districts are

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appropriate and what external impacts
come with the use. In the case of this

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use, the proposal is to include in our
light, general and heavy industrial

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districts
and to place development controls over

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the sound emissions and security
measures that come with these

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developments. A review of various
northern North American municipalities

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and approaches to sound control provided
a v variety of setbacks from as little

422
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:33,920
as 150 feet to over a thousand. Neither
can quantify the components of design

423
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:38,960
and accumulative sound generation by the
HVAC systems, power generation,

424
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:44,960
including backup systems, cooling fans,
etc. Alberta has though through the a uh

425
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:48,800
Alberta Utilities Commission normalized
the process of engineering sound

426
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:54,240
modeling as a standard means of
regulating and informing the public on

427
00:40:51,040 --> 00:41:01,599
the probable effect on adjacent land
use. In the table of accepted decibb,

428
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:05,200
the question is how much? By way of
comparison, four to five dB is quiet

429
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:11,839
conversation.
70 dB is a vacuum or loud conversation.

430
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:17,760
and so on. So the footnote to sound is
that the intent is this use in ex in the

431
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:23,839
existing industrial district would
likely preclude a power source other

432
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:28,400
than connection to fortis for electrical
where alternate power sources are

433
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:33,040
proposed. There may be requirements
through the AU and the AER at the

434
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:38,000
provincial level. This is not
anticipated to be likely given the

435
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:42,400
parcel size in the industrial setting.
The city of Brooks has limited

436
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:46,720
industrially zoned land. The second
development concern is that the security

437
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:52,880
and safety measures that are undertaken
with data centers are set up. Um the

438
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,960
proposal proposed amendment has
addressed these concerns by having the

439
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:02,800
applicant uh submit the details for
review. An additional use is being

440
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:09,520
introduced as well and this is business
support services. This is to help define

441
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:14,960
IT services as being separate from the
data center

442
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:20,319
in your strategic plan. This does meet a
number of your tasks and subtasks

443
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,119
including your strategic pillars of
infrastructure and sustainability.

444
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:30,800
Now I'm going to turn it over to Bailey
Boule. She has some additional comments

445
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:35,440
that she wants to add for your
consideration. Thank you.

446
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,280
Thank you through the chair to mayor and
council. I wanted to add a little bit of

447
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,119
a development permitting perspective to
the discussion about the proposal in

448
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,720
front of you today. So the amendment
being discussed does not approve a

449
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:52,240
permit. It doesn't approve an amendment
to any one parcel of land for zoning. It

450
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,880
however establishes a framework of rules
that ensure that we have some control

451
00:42:54,319 --> 00:43:00,960
over how this type of a proposal would
be evaluated. So from a development

452
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:06,240
permitting perspective, without the
bylaw being amended, we would have very

453
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:11,040
limited a ability to regulate a proposal
if one were to come forward today. Um an

454
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:16,319
application could come forward today for
a data center. This amendment doesn't

455
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:20,000
approve or deny a data center. Um it
does however make it a discretionary use

456
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:25,760
in the industrial zoning districts as
Gavin Gavin mentioned. Um given that

457
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:31,440
data centers are not all the same, they
vary when both range and scale and the

458
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:35,520
potential for other per approvals to
already be in place is something that we

459
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:39,920
have to consider specifically in the ter
in the case that a data center has

460
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,200
already received provincial approvals
through the AU or the AER. So what I'm

461
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:49,200
about to say next is not quite as simple
as I'm about to say it. So I'm saying it

462
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:55,359
in a very broad sense and we're keeping
in mind nuance and the specific details

463
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:59,920
of an application but typically when the
provincial level authority um gives

464
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:04,240
approval for one of these projects the
municipality must approve the

465
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:09,280
application to an extent. However,
municipalities exercise their control

466
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:14,400
through having a strong a strong
framework in the land use bylaw which

467
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:18,640
allows for the site level conditions to
be imposed. and that's things like

468
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:23,119
setbacks requiring submissions of
non-stutory plans and studies that are

469
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,680
not otherwise listed in our land use
bylaw. It includes security measures and

470
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:32,720
all other relevant approvals which are
listed for you in the proposed amendment

471
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:36,000
to the bylaw today. To simply state it,
our current bylaw would be under

472
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:39,680
equipped. If we got an application
today, we wouldn't have the level of

473
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,720
control or authority that we would like
to see for a development this impactful.

474
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:49,040
uh this would ensure that use specific
plans and studies are completed and that

475
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:53,760
I have the authority to request them at
the time of application in the first

476
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:58,000
place. If a data center is proposed, the
application would then be reviewed

477
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,520
against the land use bylaw. Public input
would be gathered at the time of a

478
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:07,040
development permit application when we
have those specific details such as

479
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:11,200
location and setbacks and other
contextually appropriate matters and a

480
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:16,000
decision would be made to approve or
deny it. This amendment just makes sure

481
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:21,119
that we have very clear rules to guide
that process and it gives us the

482
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:25,640
authority to still exercise control at
the municipal level. Thank you.

483
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:34,240
Thank you very much. Is there anything
else that you wanted to add on, Gavin?

484
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:38,480
You're pointing there.
>> Yes, that's staff's recommendation this

485
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:45,040
evening that second and third reading be
moved forward. Thank you.

486
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:50,720
» Okay, thank you very much.
Are there any persons speaking in favor

487
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:55,960
of the proposed bylaw?
Come on up and come to the microphone,

488
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,960
Mr. Denudson.

489
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:09,440
Thank you very much and good evening.
I am speaking in favor of the uh bylaw

490
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:15,040
that's uh amendments that that is being
put forward. Um

491
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:20,480
and I commend uh the work that uh
council and administration are doing in

492
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:26,000
this regard. I have been following this
um data center development um for the

493
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:32,079
last three or four years uh throughout
the United States, Canada and parts of

494
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Europe and with that has come um a great
deal of

495
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:42,000
um
there's an element of concern but there

496
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:50,680
is an element of uh this can be a viable
uh revenue source for a community or a

497
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,680
region And

498
00:46:50,960 --> 00:47:02,400
what I I want to say from the outset is
that um what is proposed here is putting

499
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:10,079
down some very um decent structures. But
as you go forward um with the bylaw and

500
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:14,800
the amendment um what I'm proposing and
I submitted it to you uh in writing is

501
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:19,680
some additional considerations that
would actually give this a little more

502
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:24,400
teeth. um a little more stance uh when
you have a very sophisticated applicant

503
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:27,760
coming forward and they will be
sophisticated. They will have the the

504
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:33,200
backing of their lawyers, their
engineers, uh you name it. Um that is

505
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,240
what's going to be coming to you uh in
the form of an application.

506
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:50,319
We know that um as Bailey has mentioned,
we need to have the structure um and

507
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:55,839
when this is in place um it allows us to
stand tall to to what is coming in this

508
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:00,319
direction. But I do feel that there are
certain areas that could use a little

509
00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:08,319
more oomph. Uh one of it is in terms of
scale. um they run anywhere from a small

510
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:12,160
server room to the uh hypers scale um
artificial intelligence campus. Now,

511
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,839
that probably won't work in this area
because we have limited industrial area,

512
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:24,480
but we can still have scale issues where
a developer comes along and says, "This

513
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:30,000
is phase one of two or three phases."
And phase one typically gets the

514
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:37,040
cursorary review, but if they come back
and they uh go forward with additional

515
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:42,559
um applications for um add-ons, um
that's going to perhaps put them into a

516
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:47,599
place where if they had approached it
all at the initially, they would have

517
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:53,680
been under the the the microscope a bit
more. So I I think when you go forward

518
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:58,319
you got to put some u scale um
categories in there just to make sure

519
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:04,720
that um our ducks are in a row and we
are anticipating what the final uh

520
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:12,480
result will be uh in terms of the
development that's being put forward.

521
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:16,720
Um the second one is water
and

522
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:21,839
we do not draw from an isolated
municipal water source. Uh we have Lake

523
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Newell, the new regional services
corporation which is a shared reg

524
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:31,440
regional asset. We're serving Brooks,
Bzano, Duchess, Rosemary and all the

525
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:36,240
hamlets within uh the county of Newell.
It's connected to the Eastern Irrigation

526
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:39,839
District and Bzano Dam. So, as part of
this greater discussion as we move

527
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,240
forward, it's not going to be that we've
got lots of water. It's going to be,

528
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:49,440
excuse me, it's going to be how this
water is shared, utilized, and um, you

529
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:53,920
know, for the various purposes for which
it was constructed. Um, we have a

530
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:59,359
certain capacity of water coming from
Lake Newell to our treatment plant. We

531
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:03,920
also have a certain capacity in our uh,
waste management system.

532
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:11,920
um any of those things that are suddenly
beyond the realm of um what they were

533
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:16,960
planned for ordinary anticipated uses is
something that um I think has to be

534
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:25,200
looked at very carefully uh because we
don't want to be in a position where um

535
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:31,520
we walk towards an approval and we have
to walk it back. Um, another thing, and

536
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Bailey alluded to this, is um, the
provincial government's going to be part

537
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:42,800
of this. Um, we also have the Alberta
Water Act, which deals with, uh, how

538
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:48,000
much water can be drawn out of the, um,
Saskatchewan River Basin. And that river

539
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:54,559
basin, of which water flows from the
bow, is one of the most procured water

540
00:50:51,200 --> 00:51:00,400
sources in Canada. and there is only a
certain amount of allocation that um can

541
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:07,839
come out of that water source and still
allow for viable downstream downstream

542
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:12,400
use. So, um we we need to ensure that um
all the parties are at the table,

543
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:17,680
whether it's the EID, the county, uh and
that we're walking in full step with

544
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:23,599
what the province has in mind to ensure
the uh viable use of our water resources

545
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:28,720
um throughout um the southern reason
region here.

546
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:33,119
Um, another couple points beyond the
scale of the unit and the water. Um,

547
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:40,079
identify I've identified these in my
written submission. Um, there's uh at

548
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:44,960
this point uh there's no decommission uh
discussion. Yeah. As you go forward with

549
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:50,960
a developer, I think you need to have
that discussion. the what if, when is

550
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:59,040
the viable lifespan of this coming to an
end and what steps will they do at their

551
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:04,880
cost, not the municipality, uh to ensure
that that decommissioning uh goes

552
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:11,440
forward. Um, the second uh thing that I
I think you need to talk to a potential

553
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:17,119
applicant and consider as you go forward
is that there's no emergency service uh

554
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:22,640
capacity assessment. Uh some of these
newer data centers are using the

555
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:28,000
high-capacity battery storage uh that
can have very flash oriented fires and

556
00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:32,480
that has to be I think part of a
discussion is whether Brooks Fire

557
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Services are in a position to uh have
the equipment be trained have um um you

558
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:46,079
know called upon um support from from
other communities to to make sure that

559
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:51,839
in the event of a catastrophic
incident. Um there's safety involved and

560
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:59,680
there's also proper management of how
that type of thing is is dealt with. Um

561
00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:04,160
um as Bailey mentioned uh noise is going
to be a consideration here and a lot of

562
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:11,119
it deals with modeling but I think you
have to go step forward and get the um

563
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,040
potential development to actually have a
postplanning

564
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:18,720
reading of what the the decibb are and
things of that nature. So it looks good

565
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:22,960
in modeling but let's see the proof of
the the pudding. uh when they're

566
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:28,960
operational, they should be in a
position to support what their model

567
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:35,359
says and I think um the city has to be
in a position to demand that of them.

568
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:39,599
Um also
I think we need to be in a position and

569
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:47,520
I've I've heard comments here earlier on
other things that we need a cost

570
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:53,280
recovery uh plan. So in other words, if
what they bring forward puts an

571
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:58,720
additional bl uh um demand on our water
sources, on our fire services, on our

572
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:06,240
electrical infrastructure,
they should be um paying the price. It

573
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:12,160
should not come down on rateayers,
um residents. Um it shouldn't tax

574
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:18,480
financially
um our existing uh structure here. So I

575
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:24,319
think it's important that um we we have
that kind of cost recovery discussion um

576
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:31,200
as you move into these things. Um this
type of application I think is coming.

577
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:37,040
It's just a matter of when and
um there's a few suggestions that I made

578
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:41,119
in my submission that the administration
obviously can utilize if they they find

579
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:47,760
it useful.
Um and the reason I'm making this

580
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:55,359
admission to tonight is that
if we brushstroke this as we have done

581
00:54:51,119 --> 00:55:03,200
it properly um it gets a little thin and
when a discussion is based on uh

582
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:09,200
something that is very thinly laid out
um that's invites more negotiation than

583
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:15,119
perhaps you would like
and the city then ends up with far more

584
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:20,720
more or far less leverage
and a bylaw and everything else that the

585
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:27,599
city puts forward. if it comes through
and or comes um towards a developer

586
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:33,280
uh and and they go, "Wow, Brooks is
prepared." Um then you stand in a

587
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:39,520
greater position to um have something
that is beneficial financially for the

588
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:45,920
community but also protects uh us as as
rateayers uh with within the the

589
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:51,760
province here. So the ask that I would
have is that um as the city and

590
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:57,200
administration move forward to consider
um applications that come in that um you

591
00:55:54,799 --> 00:56:02,480
know perhaps uh some of the things that
I put forward in my written submission

592
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:11,760
will you know have some some credence in
that discussion. Um also um in terms of

593
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:19,200
going forward um that the scalebased
classification be worked on a bit the

594
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:26,319
electrical loads disclosure um obviously
uh working with um uh uh the the various

595
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,000
utilities will give kind of a planned
approach but you need to kind of

596
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:34,480
consider what the back end is what the
actual numbers are.

597
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:40,400
um the infrastructure cost recovery,
emergency services assessment, the post

598
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:44,400
construction nose noise verification and
a decommissioning security. So in other

599
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:48,640
words, uh if they're decommissioning,
they they should have some sort of

600
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:53,760
security. Um that puts the money where
their mouth is, that type of thing. So

601
00:56:51,200 --> 00:57:01,280
time is on the city's side. Um there's
no pending application right now. So, um

602
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:08,400
I would um you know respectfully submit
that um you have time to put the depth

603
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:14,240
that you need uh in this bylaw and in
any uh subsequent discussions that um

604
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:19,920
you you may have so that when a
sophisticated um application comes along

605
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:24,160
uh Brooks is ready and willing to do
business but do it on our terms. Thank

606
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:28,480
you.
>> Thank you very much.

607
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Are there any other persons speaking in
favor of the proposed bylaw?

608
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:41,119
Are there any other persons speaking in
favor of the proposed bylaw? Seeing

609
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:46,079
none, are there any persons speaking in
opposition

610
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:52,240
of the proposed bylaw?
Again, are there any people speaking in

611
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:57,440
opposition to the proposed bylaw?
third time. Are there any people

612
00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:04,640
speaking in opposition of the proposed
bylaw? Okay, seeing none, move on to

613
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:09,720
final comments.
Gavin, do you have any final comments or

614
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,720
Bailey?

615
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,640
» Yeah, I do really appreciate the last
speaker's points. I do want to go over a

616
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:22,000
few of them with you just to give you my
perspective.

617
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:26,319
um phase development in the community
happens often even in residential. So

618
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,960
when somebody proposes to do a
development often they will come with a

619
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:35,520
full package and they may show you every
phase. Um I think what was being alluded

620
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:40,400
to was that they would not show you that
they would come in with one phase. Each

621
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:46,240
subsequent addition would have to go
through the same review process as a

622
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:52,400
discretionary use through Bailey and as
such you would have that review to then

623
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:56,960
say well how much more is this how much
more water how much more electrical how

624
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:03,359
much more and analyze it as to whether
or not it should be approved.

625
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:08,240
The question of the water act. You as a
city have allocation for water and you

626
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:14,400
have a license for water and you have a
utilities bylaw that regulates the use

627
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:20,480
of water. Any water use in the community
is regulated through the utilities bylaw

628
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:25,359
and as such you are in control of that
water. No outside water can get into

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00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:31,119
your community without your approval. So
as it becomes a larger picture say for

630
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:36,559
the county of New who has a larger
footprint and could use more water the

631
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:40,880
allocation for such a large uh data
center would have to be analyzed at

632
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:43,839
their level because of the size and
scale of it. I think what we're

633
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:51,200
suggesting here is that the size and
scale is not um something that would

634
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:57,359
outstrip your water. Now that's not to
say that in these designs as we had

635
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:04,319
understood in other communities when it
came to cannabis regulation and cannabis

636
01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:08,400
production uh water usage does creep and
sneak up on you. So we do have to as

637
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:13,599
administration be very careful about how
we outline our conditions regarding

638
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:18,079
water. Uh often when we review it is
quantified in the number of houses that

639
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:22,400
are being used. So this is how many
household units are being used in the

640
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,000
analysis and whether or not that's a
bridge too far for council would be

641
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,960
something to be considered.
Decommissioning is really related to

642
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:35,440
wind and solar projects. There's um I
think a lot of

643
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,799
work being done at the provincial level
to try to understand that they don't

644
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,400
want to have another orphaned well
situation that the wind and solar

645
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:47,200
industry should be looking at
decommissioning.

646
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:51,760
I'm not saying that I don't understand
the decommissioning of thousands of

647
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:57,440
computers and the cabling that goes with
it. I think it does come down to where

648
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:01,040
it's being recycled and I think the
province need to be, you know, they're

649
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:05,200
the ones that encouraging this. The
province needs to understand that as you

650
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:10,240
wear out computers, where are they
going? I don't know that that is a local

651
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:17,200
problem. the decommissioning of this uh
industry has not really hit the radar as

652
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:22,319
far as something that's come forward.
Um post sound analysis again I believe

653
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:26,000
this is a condition of development. The
post sound analysis we will model this

654
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:31,440
is what they're saying they're going to
have. Yes. If they exceed it and that's

655
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:37,680
what the chart is doing in the bylaw. If
you exceed that modeling and decibb are

656
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:43,359
found at this level, you're in violation
of your permit and as such you can be

657
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:49,599
receiving a stopporter and be taken to
um to appeal on that issue and the whole

658
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:55,520
thing could be shut down if you can't
modify your equipment or modify the

659
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:59,520
sound. So I think it is important but
again I believe it is a development

660
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:04,880
issue that happens after the issuance of
a permit.

661
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:09,440
The scaled approach to electrical
is an interesting com concept because we

662
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:15,280
always use it in planning. We separate
uses. We um do so with purpose though.

663
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:20,559
And that's where I'm I'm not quite
understanding what the purpose here

664
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:25,520
would be to split the scale.
Several times when we in our bylaw, we

665
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:30,160
split things based on minor and major.
And we do so because we have permitted

666
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:34,240
and discretionary uses. We would split
them and say, "Oh, this is a minor use.

667
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Therefore, it could be permitted because
of its scale or this is a major use."

668
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:44,720
And we would put it on the discretionary
side so that we review it and look at

669
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:51,680
the negative in externalities that may
come with it. So that's generally how

670
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:56,640
splitting is done. Now I did not hear
from the presentation that there was any

671
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:02,000
suggestion that any data setter be
considered as a permitted use at the 1

672
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:07,520
megawatt or less. Uh both would be then
sitting side by side in your bylaw

673
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:12,559
discretionary and discretionary
without a lot of what then and and

674
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:17,200
that's where I I kind of lost the
narrative. I I guess I don't follow what

675
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:22,960
the idea between splitting them would be
because I don't see it an added bunch of

676
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:28,960
criteria. We're applying the criteria to
whatever scale comes in. You must do all

677
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:33,359
of these things. So those are just a few
notes I had on the presentation. If you

678
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:38,119
have questions, I'd be happy to answer
them or I guess I will at second

679
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:38,119
reading.

680
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:51,280
» Okay. Thank you very much. Anything
Bailey? No. Okay. Seeing none, then I

681
01:03:45,760 --> 01:04:00,720
will adjourn the meeting at uh 5:31
and we will move on to the BRZ writeoffs

682
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:04,599
and that will be Haley.
Oh, okay.

683
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:13,599
through the chair to council. Each year,
the city levies business revitalization

684
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:18,160
zone, also known as BRZ, taxes in
accordance with the BRZ's approved

685
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:22,960
annual budget. These taxes are collected
on the BRZ's behalf and remitted to

686
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:26,640
them. Administration has identified a
number of BRZ businesses with

687
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:31,760
outstanding arars where collection
efforts have been unsuccessful.

688
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:36,160
These businesses are no longer operating
or are no longer located within the BRZ

689
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:40,400
area. Therefore, the likelihood of
recovery is minimal. These arars have

690
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:44,799
already been recognized as a bad debt
expense in prior years. As a result,

691
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:49,039
this recommendation is simply to write
off the outstanding receivables and

692
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:53,599
close the accounts. So, administration
is recommending that council approve the

693
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:57,160
write off of 22 BRZ tax accounts
totaling 11,615.32.

694
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:07,960
» Okay. Thank you very much, Kathy. Any
questions?

695
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:07,960
Councelor Ederson.

696
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:16,240
» So is this every business that has
errors in BRZ or there are some other

697
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,640
businesses that you are still working
with to

698
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,319
» through the chair to councelor address.
These are just the businesses that have

699
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:30,000
ceased operations or have moved out of
the BRZ area. There's still active

700
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:35,839
businesses um about 15 or so that have
currenters.

701
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:40,960
» Okay. So, so for those businesses that
moved outside the the zone, are they

702
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:46,480
outside the zone with the same business
license that they had or originally?

703
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:51,760
So, the chair to councelor Idris,
there's currently uh three out of the 22

704
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:55,520
that have current business licenses
operating in Brooks outside of the BRZ

705
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:00,480
area.
>> So, why can't we

706
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:05,200
try to collect this?
We have tried and have been

707
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:09,039
unsuccessful. We don't have any recourse
with VZ taxes like we do with regular

708
01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:14,319
property taxes. We don't have tax
recovery processes.

709
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:18,640
» How about with what we changed recently
where when you renew your business

710
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:22,799
license, you have to you have to pay.
>> So, it's my understanding with the

711
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:27,839
wording of that bylaw, it only applies
to businesses that are currently located

712
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:31,359
in the BRZ area. and these businesses
unfortunately have since moved out. So I

713
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:37,520
don't think the wording in the bylaw
would allow us to fall back on that.

714
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:41,559
» Thank you.
>> Are there any other questions?

715
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:50,559
Okay, seeing none, it has been moved by
councelor Johnson that council approve

716
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:57,480
the write offs of 22 business
revitalization zone uh tax accounts

717
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,480
totaling $11,615.32.

718
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:06,720
All those in favor
carried.

719
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:15,680
The next item we have is a permanent
versus temporary use 907

720
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:19,680
2nd Street West and that will be Bailey.
Thank you. Through the chair to mayor

721
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:24,880
and council. In 2022, the city
originally issued development permit

722
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:30,160
22D96 for a cafe with a drive-thru which
operates at 907 Street West. The permit

723
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:33,920
was approved as a temporary use with the
understanding that the use would be

724
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:38,640
reviewed annually by council. The
temporary approval was a practical

725
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:43,280
compromise as the sanitary sewer bylaw
and the potable water bylaw both require

726
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:47,599
connection to municipal services within
60 days of occupancy. The intention for

727
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:52,240
the temporary use was that it would
allow council to monitor it for a

728
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:56,720
limited time while reviewing its
appropriateness and implications on an

729
01:07:53,920 --> 01:08:03,280
ongoing basis. This permit has been
reviewed and extended from 2022 to 2025.

730
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:08,160
The last um extension was granted on
June 3rd, 2025 and it'll expire on June

731
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:13,280
2nd, 2026.
Uh this was discussed at the last

732
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:17,520
council committee meeting. And staff's
recommendation is that council formally

733
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:22,880
approve the conversion of the temporary
use to a permanent use, which authorizes

734
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:28,080
staff to enter into a special agreement
to wave the provisions of the sanitary

735
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:30,640
sewer bylaw and the water bylaw. I'll be
happy to answer any questions if you

736
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:35,359
have them.
Thank you very much. Are there any

737
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:41,199
questions? Councelor Johnson.
>> Thank you through the chair to Bailey.

738
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:46,640
Uh just for clarification,
this was temporary to see if it cropped

739
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:51,440
up any other potential
land uses like this or permits like this

740
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,640
and there hasn't been in four years.
Right.

741
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:59,880
» That's correct.
>> Thanks,

742
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,880
Councelor.

743
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:07,440
So the the approach we're going to take
with this one is to sign a special agree

744
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:13,920
a special agreement with this business
to do it this way and then if a similar

745
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:17,839
business comes tomorrow we will think
about it and maybe we will sign another

746
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:26,159
agreement but still our bylaw does not
allow us to do to do it just by having a

747
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:29,279
clear process to do it.
>> That's correct. If another applicant

748
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:33,359
came forward and wanted to do the same
thing, we would go through the process

749
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:37,359
again where they would request for staff
to be able to enter into a special

750
01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:42,159
agreement, uh the provision in the bylaw
doesn't have specific requirements for

751
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:45,600
when an exemption would be granted.
However, it does allow for the the

752
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:51,440
exemption to be granted.
>> Okay. So, so why don't

753
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:56,080
do a different approach which is
changing our bylaw

754
01:09:53,759 --> 01:10:00,320
whether it is in the utilities bylaw or
in the land use bylaw to to to have

755
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:06,400
clear
way clear businesses or clear structures

756
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:11,120
that may not need that connection. So
that if a structure or a business that

757
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:15,120
doesn't need that connection then they
don't need it. And then rather than a

758
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:19,840
special agreement that's case by case
that could be objective, we go

759
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:25,520
subjective. I mean we go through a
process where we can have a very clear

760
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:28,880
process that is objective to do this.
>> Certainly it's possible. Um I want to

761
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:33,120
clarify the land use bylaw doesn't have
any objections to this. The only

762
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:37,280
waiverss would be granted under the
water and sewer bylaw. Um, another

763
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:41,040
consideration that council could look at
is rather than entering into a one-year

764
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:47,520
agreement, they could extend the permit
temporarily for consecutive years. But

765
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:52,000
if council wishes, then staff can come
forward again with amendments to the

766
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:56,159
water and sewer bylaw with guidelines.
Um, that would be to council.

767
01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:01,360
» Final comment.
>> My final comment is actually I'm okay

768
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,560
with the business getting what they need
to do to to continue the business. I I

769
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:09,280
believe the business is successful.
Everything is fine. There are no issues.

770
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:14,719
My issue is that I don't want to do it
as a one case. I want to do it in a way

771
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:19,120
that is more structured where we have
these are the rules. If you fit within

772
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:24,880
these rules, you get the exemption. If
you don't fit within the rules, you

773
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:28,320
don't get the exemption. Thank you.
through uh through the chair to council.

774
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:31,920
Part of the difficulty in amending the
water and sewer bylaws as well is that

775
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:36,560
it's difficult for staff to predict in
which circumstances

776
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:40,880
uh a special agreement would be
necessary. Um we certainly didn't

777
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:45,840
predict this one. Uh so it' be difficult
to think of whatif situations moving

778
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:50,640
forward. Thus to allow for you know a a
long laundry list of criteria which

779
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:55,600
would necessitate one of these special
agreements. Council

780
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,600
» just

781
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:03,280
these kind of businesses are are
like if you go to Seattle or if you go

782
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:07,600
to other places, there are many places
that have similar businesses. Can we

783
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:11,600
look at other communities maybe in
Canada here that have done something

784
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:16,400
similar to this so that we can learn
from that experience?

785
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:20,159
» We certainly can. The difficulty is that
it's it's it'll be dependent on whether

786
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,679
or not they're being permitted through
their land use bylaw and whether or not

787
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:28,480
the other communities have the water and
sewer bylaw. That's the prohibiting

788
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:31,600
factor. Um it might be that in other
municipalities their water and sewer

789
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:36,000
bylaws don't require the municipal
connections within 60 days or that they

790
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:39,120
are utilizing special agreements to
exempt them. We certainly can do the

791
01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:42,640
research, but there are so many
different ways that municipalities

792
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:46,400
within their bylaws regulate these types
of businesses that it's not likely that

793
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:51,840
it'll be the same in in other
municipalities that we look at.

794
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:57,440
» Councelor Phillipsson,
>> and we have to keep in mind that you

795
01:12:53,840 --> 01:13:03,199
always request um the certificate from
food and health inspector. It's not

796
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:06,480
something that we just allow. You have
some regulations in place.

797
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,920
» That's correct. Just like any other
business, they have to obtain a business

798
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:14,480
license. And to obtain a business
license, there's a process um where they

799
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:17,600
have to submit any provincial or federal
approvals that would be required

800
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:23,360
depending on the type of business being
operated. So in this case, it's um food

801
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:27,120
or it's a coffee shop, but in some cases
maybe it would be retail or maybe

802
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:29,840
something else that would require a
different type of approval. They'd have

803
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:37,159
to follow all those rules just like
every other business.

804
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:37,159
» Okay. Are there any councelor Nesbet

805
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:46,960
» as a comment and this is to my fellow
counselors as well as to our development

806
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:52,239
department. Um I understand that this is
a business enjoyed by many and my family

807
01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:57,760
enjoys it. So I'm going to be in trouble
here. But I think that when we have

808
01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:03,120
bylaws that involve our sewer and our
water and people are not following our

809
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:08,159
bylaws, I have an issue with that
because we're going to see other

810
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:12,320
properties possibly come into play. And
at what point do we decide there's a

811
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:16,960
problem with the water and the sewer on
these locations when it's kind of right

812
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:24,960
there and the property owner has that
ability to maybe connect them? And I and

813
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:30,719
I think that I propose that in my I
propose number three as as the option

814
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:35,520
that I would consider to be followed.
That's not supporting.

815
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:42,719
» Councelor Falenberg,
>> I do not drink coffee or tea. Uh so I am

816
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:52,000
not a customer. Um,
but I as a community member, I um love

817
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:57,520
the idea of the business. Um, just to
councelor Nesbbit's comments,

818
01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:03,360
a business like this couldn't exist if
they were required to spend the money to

819
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:08,560
put in water and sewer. It just wouldn't
happen. So,

820
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:16,400
I am in favor of giving this business a
permanent um application.

821
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:21,840
» Councilor Ragnar,
>> I guess the one question I would have is

822
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:26,320
is there a separation in the in the
connection to sewer and water between

823
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:29,640
residential and commercial? Is there is
there a difference?

824
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:39,239
The specific
provision in the water and sewer bylaw

825
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:47,040
I believe pertains to businesses
>> through the chair to council regular.

826
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,840
It's stated in the bylaw that all
properties shall so there's no

827
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,400
difference between commercial or
residential.

828
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:56,800
» Okay. I'm going to go back to a
conversation I had with our new CEO.

829
01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:03,360
There's a property on the west side of
Brooks. It's a land owner. He is not

830
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:09,760
connected to city nor water
uh sewer or water sorry and his taxes

831
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:13,600
are based on a reduction based on him
not being connected to that. So if he's

832
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:18,880
not connected to those there should be
no issue with a business not being

833
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:24,800
connected to those as well. Uh they are
self sufficient. Um they're good stand

834
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:29,600
of the community. I too don't drink
coffee. I'm not a customer, but I see

835
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:34,640
the lineup of people. Uh my wife's one
of those. So, um I again I I don't see a

836
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:38,960
problem if if they're keeping to
themselves and they're they're you you

837
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:43,199
know they're drinking our water that
they're paying for one way or another.

838
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:47,360
So, uh and property taxes are being
collected on that behalf for that

839
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:52,120
business being there. So, I'm in favor
of it.

840
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Councelor,

841
01:16:52,400 --> 01:17:02,239
» I guess we are declaring our coffee and
tea preferences. So, I go I go with Chai

842
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:09,199
Latte. Um uh my I I have an amendment.
Uh my amendment is to

843
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:15,760
uh approve uh a one-year extension for
the business and instruct administration

844
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:21,520
to come back with uh revisions to the
bylaw that will allow for a clear

845
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:27,199
process for a permanent use without
connection to the system.

846
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:31,679
» Councelor Johnson.
>> Thank you through the chair to my fellow

847
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:35,920
councilman. I don't support that
amendment. With all due respect, we are

848
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:40,000
talking about one-off. That's
specifically why I asked in four years,

849
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:44,080
have we ever had another application?
It's been no. This this business has

850
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:48,239
been running for four years. It has
always received its health inspections.

851
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:53,679
It's received its business license and
it's been there quietly for four years

852
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:58,800
doing no harm to anybody. I don't want
to continue to give hurdles to small

853
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:04,000
businesses in the neighborhood. I
understand your issue with water and

854
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:10,560
sewer, but if and when they move to a
permanent structure, then I think we ask

855
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:13,760
that with all due respect.
>> Councelor Phillipsson,

856
01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:18,719
» my comments were similar. We need to
approve this one so it's off the books

857
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:23,520
and then if we need another bylaw, we
could work on that later.

858
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:28,080
» Councelor Nesbet.
>> Okay. Well, um, what about the other

859
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:31,440
properties that are already the other
trailers that have already started

860
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:35,360
together in that same location? Like
we're not just a one of Yes, we were a

861
01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:41,520
one of, but now there's others sitting
there and I think the property owner

862
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:45,679
themselves has some they need to step up
and if they're going to allow these

863
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:49,360
things, which I do support small
business, so that's not the problem with

864
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:55,199
me. It's the fact that these are not
connected to our sewer and water.

865
01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:58,239
None of them are.
>> Councelor Johnson,

866
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:02,960
» with all due respect, the other ones
that are there are either vegetable

867
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:06,400
trucks that don't require water or their
food trucks that are mobile vendors and

868
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:11,199
they have to get a mobile vendor
license. So, they need water.

869
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,880
» They but they're they're licensed
through their mobile vendor. It's

870
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:19,040
totally different. And they've been
there for years, too, and rotating

871
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:26,080
around.
>> Okay. So, uh there was a motion

872
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:32,800
by Councelor Idrris
to amend the uh motion to have a

873
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:39,280
one-year extension
with uh city staff to review the

874
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:43,520
municipal water and sewer requirements
uh to that property. Am I

875
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:50,320
» not to that property in general?
>> In general. Okay. In general. So I'll

876
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:53,120
ask the question. Okay. Is it everybody
understanding this one? This is a

877
01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:56,800
one-year extension.
>> This is just a motion.

878
01:19:54,400 --> 01:20:00,560
» Just is just an amendment to the motion.
>> Okay. Is everybody understanding that?

879
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:06,000
It's not the motion.
>> Okay. The amendment is for a one-year

880
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:14,400
extension to review the water for all
locations. All those in favor?

881
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:22,320
Okay. One. All those opposed.
Okay. The amendment was defeated. So now

882
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:26,880
it has been moved by councelor Falenberg
that council formally approve the

883
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:32,960
conversion of the temporary use to a
permanent use, thereby authorizing the

884
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:39,920
ongoing operation of the business at
90072nd Street West without requiring

885
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:46,560
connection to municipal water and sewer
systems through a special agreement

886
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:53,840
pursuant to section 308 of the sanitary
sewer bylaw. law 21-25

887
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:57,960
and section 310 of the potable water
bylaw 1504.

888
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:04,719
Okay. All those in favor
opposed.

889
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:08,440
» That' be me.
>> Okay. Carried.

890
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:18,760
» Can we still instruct uh y bylaw to look
into this and come with some options?

891
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,760
» Yep. for the future.

892
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:27,400
Okay,
I'll let Bailey write that before I get

893
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:27,400
her started on the next one.

894
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,800
» Ready?

895
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,440
» What's that?

896
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:48,400
» Yeah, go ahead.
I guess the question I would have when

897
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:53,120
you're looking into that, can can your
department authorize like a one-year

898
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:58,760
trial before we take it further? Is that
a possibility to streamline it a little

899
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,760
bit?

900
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:04,560
» Are you sorry to clarify through the
chair, are you requesting for this

901
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:08,639
specific permit?
>> Yeah. Okay. um

902
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:13,120
» the future if somebody from in the
future applies for something similar to

903
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:16,719
what councelor Idris is asking for.
>> So what we'll do is we will look into

904
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:20,880
bringing forward some water and sewer
bylaw amendments that give parameters

905
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:24,159
for when these could be approved. In the
meantime though the process would still

906
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,280
be the same as as the permit we just
reviewed where we would receive the

907
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:32,400
application and then we would bring it
forward for um determination on a case-

908
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:35,760
by case basis. Hopefully, we would have
maybe brought back already for you a

909
01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:39,040
discussion about amendments to the water
and sewer bylaw um so that you could

910
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:46,080
discuss whether or not they should be
amended with specific criteria for when

911
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:52,880
the waiverss would be granted. Um yeah,
>> thank you very much. The next item is

912
01:22:48,800 --> 01:23:00,840
bylaws. Bylaws 26-025,
the business license bylaw. Development

913
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,840
control officer Bailey Boule.

914
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:14,639
Thank you through the chair to mayor and
council. The business license bylaw uh

915
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:19,679
requires businesses that operate within
the city of Brooks to obtain a business

916
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:23,760
license. Um with some exceptions. The
costs for business licenses depend on

917
01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:28,080
where the business is located. um
whether or not it's a city business

918
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:32,080
license, it's located in the Brooks nil
region, or it's a non-resident business

919
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:35,360
license, businesses that are located
within the city of Brooks pay low the

920
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:41,040
lowest fees while peddlers pay the
highest fee. Some proposed changes were

921
01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:45,760
discussed at council committee. These
changes include uh no longer exempting

922
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:49,199
landlords or wholesalers from obtaining
a business license. It includes the

923
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:55,440
requirement for businesses located
within the BRZ to pay any outstanding

924
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:59,840
BRZ taxes owing prior to receiving a
renewal of a business license or to

925
01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:03,199
receiving a new business license. It
includes removing the requirement for

926
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:07,040
mobile vendors to obtain a development
permit and prohibiting mobile vendors

927
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:10,960
from becoming permanent or
semi-permanent. Um, if the business

928
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,239
would like to remain in one location,
they would be required to then obtain a

929
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:20,159
development permit and go through a
separate process. It also includes

930
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:24,320
amendments to lower the penalty from $75
to $25

931
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:29,440
and it includes minor wording changes to
reference the Brooks New region and

932
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:34,320
removal of section 605 and 607 to align
with current administrative practices.

933
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:38,800
We also did a rates and fees review um
from other municipalities in Alberta and

934
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:43,440
there's a table provided in the RFD to
show the comparisons for specifically

935
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:49,600
peddler and non-resident business
license fees.

936
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:53,440
Um, we've also included um a table that
shows what types of non-resident

937
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:58,000
business licenses are operating within
the city of Brooks. After reviewing the

938
01:24:55,679 --> 01:25:02,639
rates and fees, um staff have determined
that our rates and fees are consistent

939
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,880
with those of similar neighboring
municipalities and we don't recommend

940
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:10,400
any amendments to the fees at this time.
And the recommendation before you today

941
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:15,760
is that council provide three readings
and adopt bylaw 26025.

942
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:20,960
Thank you.
Okay. So, the first thing that we will

943
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:26,080
do is make the uh first time reading of
the motion and questions can be asked

944
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:31,760
after the second time. So, it has been
moved by councelor Idrris that bylaw

945
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:36,239
number 26-025
being a bylaw of the city of Brooks in

946
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:41,600
the province of Alberta to control and
regulate and license businesses be

947
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:46,159
introduced and read a first time. All
those in favor?

948
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:51,679
Carried.
It has been moved by councelor Nesbet

949
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:56,480
that bylaw number 26-025
be read a second time. Are there any

950
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:04,120
questions?
Okay, seeing none, all those in favor?

951
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Carried.

952
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:11,440
And this one, the third reading has to
be carried unanimously

953
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:16,880
in order for it to go forward. and has
been moved by councelor Johnson that

954
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:22,639
bylaw number 26-025
be given three readings at this meeting.

955
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,639
All those in favor
carried.

956
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:33,520
It has been moved by councelor Ragnner
that bylaw number 26-025

957
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:37,360
being a bylaw of the city of the of
Brooks in the province of Alberta to

958
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:43,920
control, regulate, and license
businesses be read a third time and

959
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:51,040
adopted. All those in favor?
Carried.

960
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:57,840
We'll move on to bylaw 2627.
Amendment to the land use bylaw 1412.

961
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:01,560
Is Gavin getting up or is somebody else
speaking on that one?

962
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:23,040
» Go ahead.
>> Yeah. through the chair of American

963
01:27:20,719 --> 01:27:27,520
council. U my presentation at the public
hearing is I guess what stands for this.

964
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:32,120
I'm looking to you for your questions
and I'd be happy to answer them. Thank

965
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,120
you.

966
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:48,239
Thank you. Through the chair to either
Miss Boule or Mr. Scott. I have two

967
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:54,080
questions.
Uh my first question is

968
01:27:51,679 --> 01:28:00,320
everybody just to make sure we're all
crystal clear at this time there is no

969
01:27:56,719 --> 01:28:05,360
active development permit application on
file. That's my first question.

970
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:10,719
» That's correct.
>> Thank you. And my second question is um

971
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:16,719
I did read every letter that we
received. I re read um Murray's report

972
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:22,960
as well and a lot of this is centering
around water and power. So in my little

973
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:28,960
bit of research I'm I'm looking for you
guys to um kind of either tell me no

974
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:34,080
that's right or not. Um there's been a
lot of research on new data centers, the

975
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:41,679
new technology data centers where there
isn't a water component per se. Um, and

976
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:46,800
I just want to clarify that if and when
there was a development permit that came

977
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:52,320
in that we would be considering as a as
a city or as a development those

978
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:56,960
nonwater
um data center applications and also

979
01:28:55,360 --> 01:29:01,679
there's some that are also
self-sufficient or

980
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:06,960
somewhat self-sufficient in their energy
with vertical windmills.

981
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:11,440
» Most of them were vertical windmill. So,
I just want to clarify because I think

982
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:17,360
that's where a lot of the issue seems to
be with in our area because we do have

983
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:21,600
issues with water. We're we're not, you
know, rich in we have great water

984
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:27,159
through the EID, but it's not like it's
never ending. So, can you speak to that

985
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,159
a little?

986
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:38,560
» Yeah. So through the chair to councelor
Johnson,

987
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:42,560
the question of water I guess is I think
in our council committee meeting we did

988
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:48,800
talk about the idea that a lot of these
data centers have the opportunity to

989
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:55,199
cool their computers without a water
source.

990
01:29:50,480 --> 01:30:00,080
Um we hadn't truncated this to that they
couldn't use water. it was open to when

991
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:05,360
they proposed water, how much water
would they use. One of the other

992
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:10,159
concerns with water was also the power
generation. So if it was electrical,

993
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:14,800
that would eliminate the most water
usage because the cooling of a generator

994
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:19,760
or whatever system that they were going
to propose would be the thing that would

995
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:23,280
be concerned about the usage of water.
And then from there, because we're using

996
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:29,199
electrical,
um, we we kind of said that that wasn't

997
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:33,920
an issue. The outside power source. Now,
this is the next thing. The outside

998
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:39,440
power source would be
in the city's situation. You wouldn't

999
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:43,920
see a solar farm or a wind farm set up
inside the city. Now, we had one

1000
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:48,880
proposed. It was direct control, and it
it did go away from a certain respect.

1001
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:54,400
it it went away from the point of view
that they were having difficulty with

1002
01:30:50,639 --> 01:31:00,400
the getting through the ACU process. Now
council certainly would

1003
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:04,800
I think in my estimation be in a good
position to actually define that use and

1004
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:10,639
whether or not it is allowed in the
city. Um we have not gone there at the

1005
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:15,040
time that that power plant was proposed.
Uh we did through direct control propose

1006
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:20,040
a bunch of control over it but that is
not in the current bylaw. never never

1007
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,040
was adopted.

1008
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:31,120
» I think you're kind of getting off what
I'm asking specifically. So, when we got

1009
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:35,920
the letters um with the issue of water
and you know there was people that were

1010
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:40,400
against data centers. I I think it's
because there is this misnomer that all

1011
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:45,440
data centers use extreme amounts of
water and I would like clarification if

1012
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:49,840
that's actually accurate. That's that's
where my question lies.

1013
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:54,760
» That is not correct. Simple answer.
>> I I talk a lot. You got to stop me.

1014
01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,560
» If you don't mind. Yes. Um like kind of
like I alluded earlier with my closing

1015
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:05,360
statements at the public hearing. Not
all data centers are the same. They come

1016
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:09,600
in many shapes, sizes, different in like
uses, intensifications of use. So what

1017
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,440
would happen is we would receive an
application for a data center and we

1018
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:17,679
would evaluate that application based on
its specific criteria. This bylaw

1019
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:21,520
actually gives me the authority to
request all of these studies at the time

1020
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,960
of application. So for a lot of
different types of development, what

1021
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:29,360
you'll see is we'll get an application.
We'll go off of the requirements that we

1022
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:32,639
say in the land use by law we need and
then we'll condition off additional

1023
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:36,560
studies that need to be provided prior
to the issuance of a building permit. In

1024
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:39,360
this case, because of the scale of the
development, we would be asking for

1025
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:43,040
these studies at the time of
application. So that before approving or

1026
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,239
denying this, we would be looking at
these studies. We would know how much

1027
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:50,159
water they're going to use. We would
know whether or not they're going to be

1028
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:53,440
using a lot of water or very little
water, whether they're relying on the

1029
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:58,239
electricity to cool it, how much that's
going to be, if they have approval from

1030
01:32:55,040 --> 01:33:02,320
the other um uh provincial bodies, or in
our case, if they have foris' agreement.

1031
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:05,440
So that would all be something that we
would consider at the time of

1032
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:08,639
application and it would also be
something that we would be able to then

1033
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:12,400
communicate to the public when we do
that public consultation piece.

1034
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:16,000
Something that our land use bylaw does
allow us to do is it says that when we

1035
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:20,239
receive an application, we're going to
circulate it to everybody who's within

1036
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:24,400
100 meters of the proposed development.
We can also have different kinds of

1037
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:28,239
public consultation when it comes to
different planning documents such as

1038
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:32,080
non-stutory plans. So, if we're
requesting that these studies and plans

1039
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:34,960
be provided, we could then turn around
and say, "Okay, well, now let's have an

1040
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:38,320
open house and let's discuss it with the
public. We'll answer your questions

1041
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:41,280
about the very specific proposal that's
in front of you." And that's when we'll

1042
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:46,239
talk about whether or not we think a
data center should or should not be in

1043
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:51,159
Brooks. Thank you.
Okay, Councelor Falenberg,

1044
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:58,960
» I have to admit that uh
pri prior to a couple months ago, I

1045
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:05,760
honestly I not sure I knew exactly what
a data center was. Um I knew the idea of

1046
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:10,960
what what it were to be, but I had no
idea what it would look like. Um

1047
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:16,639
from the little bit of research I've
done, there is massive warehouses. Um,

1048
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:20,719
and over the last couple months, I've
seen, you know, major concerns,

1049
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:26,400
obviously environmental concerns, but
also as a member of this community, my

1050
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:33,280
biggest concern would be
the vicinity to my house or somebody

1051
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:40,719
else's house that lives here. Um, now
we're talking about um the land use for

1052
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:44,800
um specifically industrial zoning,
correct?

1053
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:50,639
And I'm just looking at my my fabulous
map here with zoning. Um I don't really

1054
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:54,880
see any available land that's anywhere
really adjacent to any housing. Is that

1055
01:34:53,120 --> 01:35:00,080
correct?
>> That's correct.

1056
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:05,880
» Okay. So really that limits my concerns
completely. Thank you.

1057
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:05,880
» Councelor Nesbet.

1058
01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:16,000
» Through the chair to Gavin and and
Bailey, please. Um the one I appreciated

1059
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:22,560
all the time and effort that um Mr.
Denson put into his comments and his

1060
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:29,440
presentation. the I think he I think he
has a valid point about the connection

1061
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:33,360
or the approval discussion whatever you
want to call it with the Eastern

1062
01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:38,960
Irrigation District and our new regional
uh way water sorry group services

1063
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:44,159
that's what it's called right new
regional services association

1064
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:49,600
corporation and is that something that
we can put in the bylaw right away and

1065
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:55,520
have that as part of the process or At
what point would they have that ability

1066
01:35:51,920 --> 01:36:00,560
other than a public meetings which I
think they um I'd like to see them have

1067
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:03,280
a separate
>> line item.

1068
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:09,120
» So through the chair to councelor Dez
but just to clarify are you seeking

1069
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:13,360
circulation to the eid for comment?
>> No

1070
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:19,520
I'd like their approval on the pro on
the project. Is that would it be

1071
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:22,000
» Yeah. Sorry.
>> If

1072
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:26,960
» No, we don't have a project, but I'm
just saying should a project ever come

1073
01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:30,400
forward if it was in our bylaw,
>> if I may ask.

1074
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:33,120
» Okay. Circulation would be fine.
>> If I may just add to some of the

1075
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:39,120
conversation through the chair to
councelor Nesbet and your colleagues, I

1076
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:43,679
think that um that level of review would
typically happen at the development

1077
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:47,679
permit stage. And so because we don't
know what type of data centers we might

1078
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:52,880
get, it's nearly impossible for us to
compile a list of considerations that

1079
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:57,920
make sense. This just creates the
framework under which we would evaluate

1080
01:36:54,960 --> 01:37:02,960
those. So water use for example if a
data center was to come forward um and

1081
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:09,920
it is of a technology that does not
require high water use then having some

1082
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:14,639
kind of requirement to interact with a
water-based agency wouldn't make a lot

1083
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:18,560
of sense. Um and so uh at the time of
development we believe this framework

1084
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:22,400
would allow us to um make those
determinations and ensure that all of

1085
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:27,440
those pieces were in place relative to
the details of the development at that

1086
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:32,400
time. Councelor
Hidris.

1087
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:37,040
» Um,
again, this could be something that the

1088
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:41,040
this specific bylaw is not the right
place for. So, I don't know why I'm

1089
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:48,000
asking it here, but my question is
around uh cost. So if there are needs

1090
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:54,480
for upgrades into infrastructure or if
something happens that that that

1091
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:59,840
for example because of the because of
the overuse of the water or because of

1092
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:06,000
the overuse of the of the electricity
the the the distribution rate increases

1093
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:12,400
to everyone.
How how like how can we address that

1094
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:16,080
issue around cost recovery around
I don't know how

1095
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:20,560
» yeah through the chair I'll I'll jump in
there again councelor address I I again

1096
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:25,920
typically with any development we
consider any and all impacts they would

1097
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:29,600
have on general infrastructure and um
development is typically required to pay

1098
01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:38,360
for development so that those costs are
contained um you know within or by uh

1099
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:38,360
the developing uh body

1100
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:44,639
uh excuse me rates um you know that that
that's a question we would probably

1101
01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:50,000
likely unless governor Bailey would
would know that I don't know that there

1102
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:57,199
is a situation where
a high electrical user for example would

1103
01:38:53,199 --> 01:39:02,880
trigger higher rates for all folks in
that area. Typically, it's just by usage

1104
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:07,119
at the local site. Uh, and so they would
pay a higher percentage of the

1105
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:11,760
distribution fee based on the amount of
electricity that they used is the

1106
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:16,800
typical framework, but I'm happy to have
support on that.

1107
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:20,560
» Yeah. Through the chair to council, the
consideration of electrical is something

1108
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:25,760
that you deal with regionally. So, the
transmission line can only carry so much

1109
01:39:22,639 --> 01:39:31,600
into the region. So, as even the county
adds in new solar plants, as you add in

1110
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:36,480
solar on housing, as you add in uses
like this, I think it is incumbent on

1111
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:42,080
you to continue to have staff keep in
contact with Foris and where they are

1112
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:47,440
with their capacity of electrical uh or
electrical capacity in the community. It

1113
01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:52,320
is one of these things where it's it's
kind of a pull and tug pull and tug from

1114
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:56,960
one user to another as time goes on and
is something that is to be monitored. I

1115
01:39:54,800 --> 01:40:03,280
think a lot of people would be surprised
to know that yes, you are competing with

1116
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:08,000
new solar approvals as they go on and
even your local solar approvals are are

1117
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:12,520
part of that equation as any high-end
user would be part of that equation.

1118
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:18,360
» Thank you.
got another question.

1119
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:24,080
» A question around the decommission and I
and I know you addressed that to a

1120
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:32,080
degree
but but in the in the in the incidents

1121
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:38,400
where there is this significant
computers and in in in these many of

1122
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:41,679
these items in two three years they may
lose their value. So maybe they are not

1123
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:47,600
that important to the person who is
occupying the space.

1124
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:53,400
Can we do something although it's bigger
than us only? Can we do something

1125
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:53,400
through the bylaw to address that?

1126
01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:00,480
» Perhaps I'll maybe take a stab at that
one. Um, first there I I I think when we

1127
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:05,600
when we think of decommissioning, we are
typically at the development approval.

1128
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:09,360
We are thinking about what the site
might look like when the operation

1129
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:14,239
ceases in terms of potential
contamination or uh things of that

1130
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:20,480
nature. We typically wouldn't get
involved with internal equipment or

1131
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:24,000
production of things like cardboard for
example. many businesses generate those

1132
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:28,400
types of things and it's their
responsibility to uh to manage that and

1133
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:32,080
at the development authority level we
wouldn't be getting involved. So things

1134
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:38,159
like computer equipment um that may have
a a liframe a lifetime of whatever it

1135
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:41,520
may be five years, six years, three
years, two years, don't know and some

1136
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:46,159
components may be even quicker than
that. That is just a course of a

1137
01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:50,400
business and they would be responsible
for disposing of those materials under

1138
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:54,639
any and all regulations that exist
around recycling and waste management.

1139
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:59,920
That again those those typically happen
at a provincial at a provincial level.

1140
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:04,880
um where I do think that there is um
some consideration if any would be at

1141
01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:09,679
the end of life for the facility as a
whole. That is I think the only area

1142
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,719
where I would recommend we give some
consideration and then again I believe

1143
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:17,679
that would be appropriate for that
conversation to take place at the time

1144
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:21,119
of development dependent on the
specifics and the nature and the

1145
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:27,119
environmental assessments that are
required um that would allow um guidance

1146
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:32,440
in those areas.
Thank you very much. Are there any other

1147
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:32,440
questions?

1148
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:39,760
» Sorry if I may through the chair. Just
one other thing to add to um with

1149
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:43,679
decommissioning. I believe um that uh
computers and internal components aside

1150
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:46,800
if that building was ever to be
redeveloped. So if they moved out and

1151
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,080
they moved all of the data center
equipment out and then a new business

1152
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:55,280
came in, there's an existing building
there that would continue to um be stay

1153
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:58,320
on the tax role as an improved parcel of
land. Then if a new business came in and

1154
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:01,199
wanted to use that building for a
different use, we would go through the

1155
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:05,040
development permitting stage all over
again. So it would be a a new use

1156
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:09,920
application, change of use, change of
occupancy, they would be required to

1157
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:13,840
provide us any plans that we request at
that time to determine whether or not

1158
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:17,119
the new use is compatible with the site.
And then when you get to the building

1159
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:20,159
permit side of it for a change of use,
then they have to follow the national

1160
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:24,639
building code requirements as well. So
there are certainly other steps that

1161
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:28,000
would would come into play as soon as a
new use were to be introduced to the

1162
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:32,239
building.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. Any other

1163
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:36,400
questions?
>> Okay. Seeing none, it has been moved by

1164
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:39,920
councelor Philipsson that bylaw number
26-027

1165
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:43,280
be read a second time. All those in
favor?

1166
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:47,920
Carried.
It's been moved by councelor Falenberg

1167
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:51,520
that bylaw number 26-027
being a bylaw of the city of Brooks in

1168
01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:57,600
the province of Alberta to amend bylaw
number 14-12 being the land use bylaw be

1169
01:43:54,960 --> 01:44:02,560
read a third time and adopted. All those
in favor

1170
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:07,840
carried. The next topic we have is bylaw
26-031

1171
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:12,639
new regional emergency management bylaw
and partnership agreement. That will be

1172
01:44:10,639 --> 01:44:16,239
director Schaz.
>> Thank you. Through the chair to council.

1173
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:20,800
Uh before you use a request for decision
regarding the new regional emergency

1174
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:25,920
management updated partnership agreement
bylaws for ministerial order uh to

1175
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:30,960
ensure continued compliance with current
provincial legislation and operational

1176
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:34,960
requirements. Updates to the bylaw and
agreement include specific language

1177
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:39,360
changes, terminology, and numbering
changes. Following participating

1178
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:43,760
communities, council's approvals of
these updates and subsequent commission

1179
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:47,760
to the province of Alberta, formal
approval of the ministerial orders

1180
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:52,800
expected, which will finalize the
process and bring the updated

1181
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:57,440
partnership into full effect. Uh topics
for council's discussion are option one,

1182
01:44:54,960 --> 01:45:01,360
approve the updated agreement and bylaw,
which continues our participation in the

1183
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:06,560
new regional emergency management
partnership under provincial ministerial

1184
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:10,719
order. or option two, do not approve,
which may result in us being excluded

1185
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:15,760
from the new regional emergency
management partnership. There's no new

1186
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:20,080
financial implications associated with
these updates. Therefore, recommendation

1187
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:25,520
from administration is the council
adopts bylaw 26/031

1188
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:30,080
with three readings and approved the
updated new regional emergency

1189
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:34,719
management partnership agreement.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. Again, I'll

1190
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:38,960
read the bylaw for the first time and if
there's any questions, it can be asked

1191
01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:42,960
after the second time. So it has been
moved by councel Iddris that bylaw

1192
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:46,880
26-031
being a bylaw of the city of Brooks in

1193
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:51,199
the province of Alberta to establish a
regional emergency advisory committee

1194
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:56,000
and a regional emergency management
agency that includes the county of

1195
01:45:53,920 --> 01:46:01,119
Newell, the town of Basano, the village
of Duchess, the village of Rosemary and

1196
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:06,800
the city of Brooks be introduced and
read a first time. All those in favor?

1197
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:11,040
Carried.
It's been moved by councelor Nesbet that

1198
01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:16,000
bylaw number 26-031
be read a second time. Are there any

1199
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:21,199
questions? Councelor Phillipsson?
>> Not necessarily a question. Um I think

1200
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:25,840
it's a a good agreement. I'm happy to
see that all the municipalities are

1201
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:30,960
involved. If there is an emergency, we
all have to work together. Um I think my

1202
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:35,920
question was more were there any changes
that the other municipalities suggested

1203
01:46:33,679 --> 01:46:39,040
or did they all accept the way it was
presented to us

1204
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:42,480
» uh through the chair to councelor
Phillipsson. So the majority of the

1205
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:47,280
changes that are in this document came
from the uh Alberta government. So we

1206
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:51,040
had to match up the bylaws for all the
comm community all five involved

1207
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:55,280
communities and the agreement to match
what they wanted specifically before

1208
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:59,520
they'll grant the ministerial order. So,
it's basically just a few minor language

1209
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:02,800
changes to get everybody everybody on
the same page. It gets submitted to the

1210
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:07,600
province of Alberta. They're going to
approve. They've basically given

1211
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:13,440
conditional acceptance based on the new
documents.

1212
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:19,119
» Okay. Are there any other questions?
>> Okay. Seeing Seeing none, it has been

1213
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:23,520
moved by councelor Nesbet that bylaw
number 26-031

1214
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:28,480
be read a second time. All those in
favor?

1215
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:33,760
carried. It has been moved by councelor
Falenberg that bylaw number 26-031

1216
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:39,600
be given three readings at this meeting
and it must be carried unanimously

1217
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:44,679
unanimously to go forward. All those in
favor

1218
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,679
carried unanimously.

1219
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:52,000
It has been moved by councelor Johnson
that bylaw number 26-025

1220
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:55,679
being a bylaw of the city of Brooks in
the province of Alberta to establish a

1221
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:59,280
regional emergency advisory committee
and regional emergency management

1222
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:03,760
advisory that includes the county of
mule, the town of Basano, the village of

1223
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:09,760
Duchess, the village of Rosemary and the
city of Brooks be read a third time and

1224
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:12,800
adopted. All those in favor
carried.

1225
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:16,320
It has been moved by councelor
Phillipsson that council approve the

1226
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:21,199
updated new regional emergency
management partnership agreement. All

1227
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:25,040
those in favor
carried.

1228
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:31,679
It has been moved by councelor Ragner
that the meeting adjourn at 6:15.

1229
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:34,679
All those in favor
carried.

1230
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,719
have to be afraid.
>> Yes, you do.