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Good evening. Welcome to tonight's city council meeting. The public can attend tonight's meeting in person at the

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George D.C. arrow city and county buildings council chambers located at one to comb drive or watch live on channel 8 and through live streaming on

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The public may also participate in public comment either in person or by calling 855-695-3744 and pressing star-3 to be placed in the queue for comment.

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Screeners will ask callers for their first and last name, neighborhood, and the agenda item the caller would like to comment on.

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If you'd like to speak on more than one item on tonight's agenda, you'll need to press star 3 each time to be placed back in the queue for comment.

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Public comment will be limited to 90 minutes total per item.

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The first one through 15 participants in the queue have three minutes to speak.

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The next 16 through 25 have two minutes out of time remains the next 26 plus participants have one and a half minutes to speak.

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For those here to speak on the North Area Water Tanks, there is a public comment period specific to that item

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that will take place after the staff presentation.

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which along with a list of those calling in,

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will be used to determine the order of speakers

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for that item.

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We'll hear from six in-person individuals

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and then one phone caller until we hit these limits.

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Priority will be given to those

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who've indicated they are broomfield residents

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on the sign-up sheet.

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Non-residents will have a chance to speak

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if time remains after broomfield residents

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have made their comments.

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For our hearing impaired residents present,

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We have wireless headsets available at the back of the council chambers from our AV team.

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The City Council regular meeting is called to order.

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Will the clerk please call the roll.

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Anderson, here.

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Cohen.

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Delgadio, here.

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Henkel, here.

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Just her ski.

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Leslie.

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Lim, here.

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Marshallsson.

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Chef.

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Here.

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Thank you.

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A quorum is present.

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Well, everyone, please rise and join me for the pledge of allegiance.

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Thank you.

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In an effort to keep order for tonight's meeting, I ask Council members to limit their

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comments to five minutes.

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If Council members are given an opportunity to speak for a second time on an item, they should

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limit their comments to two minutes.

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And we'll plan on attending a break at approximately APM.

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We'll begin with Council's review and approval of this evening's agenda.

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Council may add or remove items from the consent agenda, or Council may revise the order

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of business for a meeting.

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Does any member of the council have any comments or questions regarding this agenda?

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Are there any objections to this agenda being approved?

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Seeing none, the agenda is approved.

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The first item under petitions and communications is a proclamation declaring October 2023

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as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

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Will the representatives here to accept this?

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information.

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The first item under petitions and turn, that was weird, it's like a delay.

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Well, the representatives are here to accept the population.

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Please come and meet Mayor Protem Gisersky at the podium.

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Welcome and feel free to go ahead and introduce yourself.

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Bonnie Steeleman takes supervisor with a child adult and family services here in Brimfield.

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I'm Amy Schengula.

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I'm the clinical and services supervisor with child adult and family services.

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evening, I'm Judith Moreno, victim advocate with

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Thank you all for joining us this evening. I'll briefly summarize the proclamation that

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I'll turn it over to the staff representatives for comments. This proclamation recognizes

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the pervasive issue across the city and county and the United States and the world regarding

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domestic violence and its implications for personal and community health. Domestic violence

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not discriminate and touches all communities regardless of age, race, disability, gender identity

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or socioeconomic status. Research shows that by creating communities where people are connected,

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supportive and care for one another can reduce incidents of domestic violence.

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Every day in the city and county of Brunefield individuals and organizations play a part in supporting

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people impacted by domestic violence, providing services, including therapeutic, legal, educational

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housing advocacy and medical services. Therefore, as mayor, I hereby declare and proclaim October

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2023 as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month in the City and County of Brunefield,

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and invite all residents to use this month to raise awareness and increase the prevention

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of domestic violence in the Bruneville community with the representatives like to make any comments.

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Thank you for acknowledging this important topic that impacts countless families.

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We continue to strive towards best practice in learning new and improved ways to effectively address

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these concerns.

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We do this through ongoing trainings with Safe and Together, and through our strong

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partnerships with Bloomfield Police Department, Span, 17th Judicial District, and our community

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partners.

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Good evening.

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As the supervisor, the prevention team, I wanted to share that, for our team, the goal

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is to provide a foundation for Bloomfield families to thrive.

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For those leaving or planning to leave an abusive situation, that means connection to community

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partners for housing and food security, whether appropriate clothing, job readiness, safe

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child care, access to mental, physical health services, reliable transportation, and stable

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finances as just a few of the necessary connections.

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Thank you for your support and thank you for supporting the relationships with our community

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partners.

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Thank you.

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Would anyone else like to provide remarks?

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I'll be brief, in case everyone else wants to speak to a long line.

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Again, I'm Ant Happen, the Executive Director at Spanett.

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I want to just to thank the staff of the City and County of Brunefield, the Police Department.

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You all have an amazing collection of people who are very committed to not only responding

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to the needs of survivors and victims, but preventing domestic violence in the community.

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So we are honored to be a partner in this network and again, just really appreciate all of you

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in your commitment in our community partners and our ability to work with them.

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So thank you.

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Well, we do allow public comment on every agenda item.

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So if anybody would like to speak on this item, you have an opportunity.

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State your name and neighborhood for the record.

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So my name is Emilio Miller and I'm a resident of Brumfield.

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I am a member of the address confidentiality program, and I would just like to say thank you, and means the world, and thank you.

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We appreciate all of you joining us this evening, and we appreciate the work that you do in every facet of ensuring victims of domestic violence are protected and cared for.

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Thank you.

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The second item under petitions and communications is a report from the community

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delegation who visited room-filled sister city in the way to Japan.

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Representatives, Junko Goodwin, and student delegate, Jericho Bondi, and Lauren Flynn.

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And Lauren Flynn is from the community.

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That's weird.

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Anyway, what I represent it is, please step up to the podium, introduce yourselves and share

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your presentation, and I didn't get to finish

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Lauren Fullardo.

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Did I say it right?

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Thank you.

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Oh, and Helen is here as well.

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Helen, planed you it.

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I didn't get that on my script.

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Good evening, Mayor, City Council, and staff.

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My name is Helen Joy.

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I am on the leadership team along with you and co-good

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when for our sister city, Longstanding Relationship.

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And we are here tonight to introduce two of the delegates

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who traveled to Japan, we had 11 delegates this year and four

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shaperones and without further ado, I'm going to go ahead and introduce Lauren

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and Jericho to tell you about our experience this year. Thank you. And at the end,

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they'll also present a gift from the mayor of the way that you also are

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experience this year. Thank you, Dean. There's something going on with the recording.

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We'll figure it out.

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Go ahead, Jericho.

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Hello, my name is Jericho Bondi, and this is,

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and we're here to present to you

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about our experience being an ambassador

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for Bruno Fielcester City's.

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And Palardo.

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And we're here to present to you about our experience.

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That's never happened before.

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So this is a new thing.

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I know we had to do a little bit of a technical work

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around to get these monitors to work.

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So my guess is that might be part of the issue,

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but it's either that or we won't have these big monitors

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for you to see what the presentations are.

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So thank you for your patience.

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All right, so we're going to start off

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with a bit of what it was like before the trip

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and while we were preparing to leave for Japan.

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So the first thing we noticed

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is that we got to be very involved in the preparation

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for the trip, specifically through being able

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to help create the itinerary for what we were going to be doing

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in Tokyo for a few days we were visiting there.

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And we felt this not only got us a lot more interested

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in the culture, but also brought our group of ambassadors a lot closer together because there

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was a lot of collaboration and working together.

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And we also felt that the program did a great job of preparing us for Japan. One example being that we all went down to see the cherry blossom festival in Denver, which was able to kind of help replicate what was going to be like navigating Tokyo. And made the process go a lot smoother once we actually arrived there.

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Information for this trip was very well presented to us. We knew what we were going to be doing, how we were getting there, and all the details about the trip we knew months and advance.

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which really helps soothe our initial anxieties.

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Next slide please.

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So, with our planning done,

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we got on a plane ahead of to Heneta Airport in Tokyo.

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And from the minute we arrived in Japan,

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we felt such a welcoming atmosphere

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from everybody involved in this program.

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We were very anxious at this start,

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but once we arrived that old vanished,

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everything was so well organized,

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and we just felt so at peace.

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We also felt the events on the itinerary.

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We're very interesting and impactful

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without being too much for a single day, and this is to say that we thought we were able to fully soak in the culture without it being too overwhelming.

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We also felt that the awaited team was very prepared for any roadblocks they were to face even when they were completely out of their control.

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The major one being that a few of the ambassadors contracted COVID, and so they had to make some adjustments in order to get arrangements for them to stay somewhere,

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and also for the remaining ambassadors to still be able to safely see some of the amazing sites of Japan.

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Next slide please.

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So we're going to get to the bulk of our presentation, which is what we got from this trip,

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and how it really did change our life. Next slide please.

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So our first major personal gain was that we felt much more confident in traveling,

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and we gained a lot of skills in organization and managing our independence.

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And this is because what we did receive a lot of freedom on the trip,

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we also had to learn how to not abuse that freedom.

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And we also felt we gained very meaningful relationships with the away to community, especially

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with our host families who we were able to stay with for about a week.

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And I know for me specifically I was able to get very close to my host family very fast, especially

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because there was that language barrier, so we did kind of have to work together to come up with

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new ways to communicate, and that allowed us to get to know a lot more about each other.

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For me, my family consisted of two older Japanese parents, who were both English teachers,

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so that was convenient for me as there was no language barrier.

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And as a result of that, I got to learn so much about their culture and their politics

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and all this kind of stuff, just by talking to them, because that barrier was removed.

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And I felt that that was really kind of enlightening for me, so I could learn so much more

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about this country than I've never visited before.

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And that kind of leads us into our final point, which is that we got a better understanding

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of the similarity and differences in our cultures around the world.

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In Japanese culture, there are differences from everything from religion, to the high-racer

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children.

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But the end of the day, we are all humans, and it was wonderful to see us connect even through

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all of the barriers that we face.

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Next slide, please.

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Okay, so now that we are back, our work is still not over, and there are a few things that

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Let's be done for this program.

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And we are going to walk you through those now.

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To start, we've done a lot of program advertising

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since we've been back.

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We were at the Bruno Farmhouse this past month

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where we did a lesson on Fiotr Shiki wrapping,

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which is a traditional Japanese-style wrapping method

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for gifts.

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We were also at the BCH annuals Gala,

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where we presented about our program to anyone

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who would be interested.

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So we can spread the word about this amazing opportunity.

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And another thing we would like to do going forward is host the Japanese ambassadors that come to visit

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Brunefield this summer.

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And this is because like Jericho was saying, we were showed so much kindness and we got to see

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some amazing pieces of the Japanese culture and we want to show our appreciation for this

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by giving the Japanese students the same experience we were given.

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Next slide.

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Alright, so now we are going to present our gift to Margaileen.

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I believe that this is from the mayor in Weta to you.

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We have brought them to gift with us when we went to Japan and presented it to them so they would want it to do.

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And we wanted to thank all of you for coming and watching us tonight and our

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chaperones, the broomfield committee for Weta and the Weta

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committee for our trip and anyone else who is part of making this trip possible.

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Thank you for such an amazing experience.

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Is that all from your presentation?

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We do allow public comment if anyone from else from the delegation would like to

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speaker say anything now's the time

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if not thank you all for joining

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this evening I want to go next time that looks so fun and and we are we

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really appreciate you guys being such great ambassadors for the city

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and county and broomfield we'll move to public comment next this is general

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public comment where you can speak on items not on the agenda so if there's

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Anyone who would like to be heard, now is the time to speak, and you will have three minutes.

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Please state your name and name of it for the record.

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Roxie Jula, luck more.

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I just wanted to say that I'm very impressed on how the city and county needs to make extreme

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regulations on land use in order to manage the taxpayers' land. Without it, I'm sure they wouldn't be able to handle it.

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The second thing is the art that we're having for our city building here. I think somebody might be afraid.

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to find out whether the people of the city in County of Brunefield really like that

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art or not because you can choose one or the other, but they're afraid to put in comment

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like vote for neither. So you really don't know what the people really want. You just give

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them a choice. So I'm pretty happy with what city in County is doing with that also. Thank

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Thank you very much.

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I'm Ellen McKenley.

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I'd like to talk with you about our community center.

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I was very eager to find out that we're going to get a new community center.

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I've been attending classes over all these years.

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And I just wanted to know, I was just delighted that they were going to incorporate a

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senior center within the building.

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I went on the tour the first time.

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And I was deeply disappointed that I didn't find a senior center.

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I found long aisles not conducive to seniors who are aging.

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There are much, and I would challenge you all to take that trip as a senior,

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pretending you're a senior who has those handicapped in any way,

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and make that trip and see how long it is.

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I was disturbed about it enough to decide I wanted to get a petition side, because people

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have to go through that long line to get to the lecture room, and there's a door and

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exit right there.

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I've given each one of you a picture of that door that you can see that's right there right

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on the other side is the lecture room where they eat, and that door actually is in front

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of the handicapped parking.

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Now I don't know why that was designed that way

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where you have a handicapped parking

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and you have a locked door that they can't use.

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So I've got 162 signatures without any trouble whatsoever.

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Took the signatures to our city manager and our mayor

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and they agreed I was so thankful and they're really responsible

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for opening up that door.

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And Nikki and Clay are in the process of doing it right now,

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and it's going to be open on October 2nd.

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However, in talking with the 162 seniors,

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I realized there are a lot more problems than just opening up that door.

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So there doesn't seem to be a platform for people to just air their concerns.

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So I'm hoping that you all will develop a platform for the seniors to come and talk with you and see

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if they're on some solutions to the things that they're concerned about.

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Thank you very much for listening to me.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm Judy Enderly and I live in Northmore.

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And I'm angry.

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Two weeks ago, this notice was taped to my door.

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It's from the Bloomfield Police Code Compliance.

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And it states that I am in violation of code 1208020, which reads, bushes, trees, and shrubs

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must be kept trimmed and set back as efficient distance so that they do not obstruct the use

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of the sidewalk or street and do not obstruct the view of any pedestrian or vehicle traffic or traffic

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sign.

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The violators,

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these prairie cone flowers, some of which were touching the sidewalk.

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People thank me for growing these flowers, which bloom until the first hard frost.

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But the notice informs me that I must remove them within seven days.

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I have some neighbors that have a crab apple tree. Small apples fall onto the sidewalk

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for a few weeks in the fall. How can they comply when apples fall daily?

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Other neighbors have sunflowers that touch the sidewalk.

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They have a special needs child and I doubt that their violation is high on their priority list.

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Most of my neighbors are now angry with the city.

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They point to areas that the city has neglected or is in violation itself.

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So my question is, why can't the city work with the community rather than against it?

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Why not see if residents need assistance rather than notifying them that failure to correct the violation within seven days may result in an official notice of violation?

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How friendly does that sound?

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In closing, I think that I speak for my neighbours in offering to assist in resolving the issues and helping the city see areas where it might improve.

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Thank you very much.

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Anyone

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else like to be heard?

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In general public comment,

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check online.

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I don't see any more.

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All right.

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updates are next. Before we begin with the Council's updates, I'd like to take this opportunity

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to recognize some very special guests we have here this evening. Members of the Bloomfield High School

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Engineering Club were recently in the news for winning the National Mathematics Engineering Science

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Achievement Mesa competition earlier this year in Albuquerque, New Mexico. These students created

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an app designed to overcome language barriers faced by users of the room-filled fish food bank

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and family resource center by translating into five different languages.

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Would any of the representatives here being recognized like to say anything?

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Where are you guys?

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Oh, there you are!

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We're so proud of you!

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It was all over the news!

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Hi, my name is Gloria Erickson. I'm Coleman Eschenbrenner. And I'm Lyndon Wood. And we also have another member, Ethan Dorman, who is currently on a college visit out of state.

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So, just to add a little bit about our app. Right now we have two complete and we have one more on the way. We finish one completely for a broomfield fish. We have also finished another one for community food tier and we are working on for harvest of hope.

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It translates from English into Spanish, Russian, Ukrainian, and Chinese, and then we also have

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a Heinez items list, so that donors know what to donate, a donations tap that tells you

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how to donate, a calendar that shows their events, and then we also have a map on the community

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food share page. And if anyone would like to download it, we do have it available on Android,

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It's if not, you can pull it up on the option.

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I think, yeah, on the option.

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Let's say called, it's called the broomfieldfish app.

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Just broomfieldfish.

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It's broomfieldfish.

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And we would also like to thank you so much for having us.

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We are so proud of you.

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Thank you for coming.

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We've been trying to track you guys.

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Keep up the great work.

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Does any member of Council have any updates this evening?

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Council Member Liv.

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There are two community events coming up in the next two days.

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First of all, everyone is invited to join the Brunefield Workforce Center

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to honor Linnell Munn, a workforce champion who the team sadly lost last November.

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The workforce team will honor Linnell's memory by the dedication of the workforce center

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resource room, named after her tomorrow, Wednesday, September 27th from 2 to 5 p.m.

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The next community event that I wanted to bring to Interested Parties Attention is on Thursday.

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The Markle and Waki Open Space Plan will be revealed in its final proposed form, and anyone

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in the public can give final feedback on that at the OSTAC meeting.

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Thank you for the open space team's efforts to engage the community fully.

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That's it, Mayor.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Council Member Lynn.

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Council Member Ward.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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The only update or reminder that I have is next Monday, October 2nd.

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From 12 to 2 in the Health and Human Services Building is the charter review committee's first October meeting.

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We're moving a little quickly along with making sure we meet our November deadline for

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presentation to Council, so just wanted to remind the community that that will be happening

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next Monday from 12 to 2 in Health and Human Services and as always, please submit any comments

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or recommendations you have via the email link on the charter view committees website or the online

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submission form. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Ward, Council Member Hankle.

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Thank you, Mayor, as many of you guys have heard tonight, twice now already, we're talking about

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language.

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So our sister's cities, kids are talking about how hard it was to go to Japan and talking

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about the language barrier, right?

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And here we have our own kids here who are doing amazing work and going to knock tear up every

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time I talk about you guys.

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You guys have done an amazing job for Brimfield Fish.

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I love it that you call it just the Brimfield Fish app, but yeah, it's steering to make sure

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everything is just accessible and that's, that's a key component of who Brumfield is and who

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Brumfield will be. So thank you and so rolling into that, I was thankful to have the Enneco

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Presidential appointment to the Immigration Reform Task Force and we'll be discussing the following

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items as Thursday on our call. We'll be talking about just the policies that we have with

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our Southwest Border Coordination Center, our Migration Information Center and our Department of

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security. We'll be talking with government officials and staff and getting an update on current

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immigration trends and new federal policies and provide time for local officials to ask questions

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or if you have any concerns you can contact me. We will also discuss the work authorizations

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of those who are on her mandatory and parole from Ukraine and Afghanistan. So we'll see if we can

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add Farsi, maybe we'll call it Persian to the ad that be kind of cool. We have a lot of Afghan

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families here and I love to partner with you guys on that. We want to ensure they're right to work here as they are

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seeking asylum as well. Additionally, the heart of Brunfield Awards is this Friday morning and we're so excited to

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celebrate the winners of this year's Awards. The last year's heart of Brunfield Award winners vote on who won this year

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and we're so happy to cast my vote for the Workforce Center. The Workforce Center goes above and beyond

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call of duty and I worked firsthand with them and resettling our local refugees from Ukraine

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and Afghanistan. So I would love it if people could come and celebrate our workforce center

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with us on Friday this Friday from 8.15 to 9 a.m. it's a breakfast at the Cheto of Fox

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Meadows. They've done incredible work in meeting our immigrants and also meeting those who are

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on-house where they are so that they don't need so much transportation. So our workforce is

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meeting people where they're at. And last but not least, I really want to give a shout out to all

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of our staff who did an incredible job at room field days. Whether it was our Chamber of Commerce,

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working with our local businesses, making sure that they are seen and heard all the way to our

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kids receiving all this candy, I think next year we might include dog treats. There are so many

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dogs there. And so I just really want to commend our staff and our PD as well for making it a safe

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event every time I go to these events I do get a little bit nervous because it's a lot of people

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right and I just know we're in safe hands. So thank you, PD. Thank you staff and thank you manager

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and CMO crew. Thank you. Thank you very much. Council Member Shaft. Thank you, Mayor Arthur. I'll echo

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Council Member Henkel's comments. Brimfield days. Thank you staff. Thank you to our volunteers,

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our nonprofit and business community and of course the wind that was on display that day. That was

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a delight. You know, thank you to everyone that came out for Brimfield Days and made that

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day great. Coming up this week is another event in Ward 3, the Octobier Fest at the Lutheran

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Church of Hope. It'll be Friday night from 5 to 9 and then Saturday from 11am to 8pm. So hopefully

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you can make yet another great community event this weekend. So thank you see there. Thank you very

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I love that event.

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Anyone else on Council have an update?

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Well, I'd be remiss if I didn't take a moment to think.

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All of the staff, our department heads, our volunteers,

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for an amazing room fill days as well.

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I think the good vibes logo lived up to its name,

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and it was just a positive day full of joy and community spirit.

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So well-attended, the booth sold out.

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So I know how much work goes into that behind the scenes

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and during that day, and I just want to extend my heartfelt gratitude for a memorable event.

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It is a huge success.

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Now to business, Council's consideration of the consent agenda is next.

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The clerk will read all of the consent agenda items by title,

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and there will be one opportunity for public comments and council questions and comments.

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Will the clerk please read agenda item 7A through 7G by title?

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7A, approval of minutes from the regular meeting of September 12, 2023.

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7B, resolution number 2023-108, authorizing the purchase from Motorola solutions for

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replacement of existing police portable radios.

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7C, resolution number 2023-95, approving an intergovernmental agreement with North Metro

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fire rescue district for SWAT team medics.

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70 resolution number 2023-117,

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approving a memorandum of understanding with the member agencies

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of the North Central Colorado Regional Child Abduction Response Team.

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70 resolution number 2023-121, approving a construction agreement

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with civil specialties ink for the Lake Link Trail

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Arrosion Control Improvements Project.

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7F resolution number 2023-120 approving the first amendment to the consulting agreement with

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icon engineering ink for engineering services related to the Brunfield Heights Stormwater

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and Pedestrian Improvement Project 7G resolution number 2023-131 to become a member of Colorado

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County's ink.

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Thank you.

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We'll now proceed with public comments on these items starting with in-person.

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If there's anyone who'd like to be heard, please come to the podium, share your name, name and

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neighborhood for the record, and limit your comments to three minutes.

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Roxie Jula, Lockermore, on item G. I don't already see any benefit of us joining this group.

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I'm sure that you all do, but I just wanted to give my opinion that I see no use in being

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part of this and it's just a waste of money in time. Thank you.

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Thank you. Anyone else?

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Is Council Member comments on these items? Does any member of Council

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have any questions or comments? Council Member Lim?

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On seven E, the Lakelink Trail erosion control and provenance project. I read through that

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item and the agreement and I wasn't able to get a sense of who was required to post the

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signage with the phasing, is that standard and not stated in an agreement or because

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it said appropriately that the work was going to be phased to minimize the trail closures.

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Could Council Member Lim, Miss Allen? Could you address that question please?

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Thank you, Katie Allen, City and County Engineer. Let me see if I can clarify the question.

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Who's responsible for the warning signs, the construction signage?

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Yes, that would be the contractor.

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The contractor. Okay, so would there, I guess then my question would be anticipating that I'm when someone gets on that trail at some point.

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They may be a distance from where the signage actually says the trail is closed.

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That's, I guess that's my question.

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Can you, where will the signage be posted by the contractor so that someone is not stuck in the middle and all of a sudden figures they can't ride their bike or walk their dog further?

458
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:27,200
Got it. Yes, I understand the question. I don't have a signage plan, but we'll put it at the most obvious trail heads before someone heads down there and has to turn around.

459
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:28,760
Good.

460
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Thank you.

461
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:30,880
Thank you.

462
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:32,400
Any other council members?

463
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,140
Thank you, Mayor.

464
00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:37,340
So two questions on 7C and 7F.

465
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:38,780
So 7C.

466
00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:44,220
This is regarding the SWAT training and compensation with North Metro Fire and Rescue District.

467
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:49,600
I'm curious, do other jurisdictions have a similar agreement with North Metro Fire Rescue District?

468
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,240
Chief Hempelman.

469
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:02,320
So the question was, hello, a dear Hempelman, Chief of Police.

470
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,780
If other North Metro, other police agencies have one with currently with North Metro?

471
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,040
Correct.

472
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,960
No, they do not.

473
00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:12,360
Okay, do we anticipate that there are jurisdictions that are going to have a similar agreement?

474
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,180
I do.

475
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:16,840
And the reason I see that is, Madam Spray, who is part of our SWAT team, he attended.

476
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,600
And he's actually, is it President,

477
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,540
Vice President of the National Tactical Office of the Association?

478
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,780
And he attended a training just this year,

479
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,460
and that's really where he got that information.

480
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,040
And that's really where the most police departments are heading in the future.

481
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,760
Okay, and so will that be duplicative?

482
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
I mean, will every agency have their own medics,

483
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000
or is this going to be much more of a coordinated program?

484
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:40,320
Well, I can't speak on others.

485
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,600
I can tell you that Westminster Police Department currently has one medic.

486
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:47,460
It's unique to them, but they also have their own fire department.

487
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,680
So I think, yes, I think future, that's how it's going to look.

488
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Great.

489
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:51,960
Thank you for that.

490
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,060
My other questions I have to do with 7F.

491
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,640
You know, some of my council colleagues now, I'm a substitute teacher and recently,

492
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,920
I substituted it emerald elementary.

493
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:07,080
And just so happens that I was required to be crossing guard right there at third avenue.

494
00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:11,540
And so I watched all these kids walk down that two and a half foot sidewalk.

495
00:43:11,540 --> 00:43:17,840
Many of the kids walked on the sidewalk, parents walked in the street because the sidewalk isn't big enough there on third street.

496
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:27,520
So I'm greatly appreciative to the staff. I'm greatly appreciative that we have funds to expand that sidewalk because it's greatly needed and it's definitely a safety thing.

497
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,880
So I appreciate that. Thank you, staff.

498
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,000
Thank you, Council Member Ward.

499
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,660
Thank you, Mayor. I also want to comment just on seven F.

500
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:43,240
I really appreciate staff from moving forward with this project, first filing, most sidewalks

501
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:48,160
in first filing, or not even ADA compliant, and I'm really appreciative of staff bringing

502
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,520
this project forward and ensuring that we bring all of our sidewalks in the city and county

503
00:43:52,520 --> 00:44:00,020
of Brimfield up to ADA standards and allowing more individuals to safely use our sidewalks

504
00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:05,440
and not having to necessarily walk in the road when passing each other or bikes riding on

505
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560
sidewalk, etc. So thank you.

506
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,900
Thank you very much. Any other council questions or comments?

507
00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:22,000
Before asking for a motion, I want to remind everyone that item 7C contains an intergovernmental agreement, which requires two-third approval of council.

508
00:44:22,580 --> 00:44:30,780
Is there a motion by council that the recommendations contained in the staff reports for agenda item 7A through 7G be approved? Council Member Ward.

509
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:35,740
So moved. Thank you, is there a second counts of membership? Second is there any discussion?

510
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,820
Will the clerk please call the roll?

511
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:54,780
Anderson. Yes, Cohen. Yes, Delgadillo. Yes, Henkel. Yes, Jiserski. Yes, Leslie. Yes, Lim. Yes, Marshall. Yes, chef. Yes, and Ward. Yes. Thank you.

512
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,320
consideration this evening, acknowledging the review of expenditures in electronic benefit transfers

513
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:13,500
for January 1st, 2023 to June 30th, 2023. The meeting of the Board of Social Services is called to order.

514
00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:20,500
Will the clerk please call the roll. Anderson, here, Cohen, Delgadillo, here, Henkel,

515
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:25,560
here,

516
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,000
Yeah.

517
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,380
Yeah.

518
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,360
And ward.

519
00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:28,860
Here.

520
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,500
Thank you.

521
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:31,380
A quorum is present.

522
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,500
Board members have a copy of the agenda memorandum, which I'll ask our staff to summarize.

523
00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:39,480
You may are in good evening, Council and Community Christ Dewhurst, our Deputy Director

524
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,820
of Human Services, Acting Director.

525
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:47,200
Well, Director Casey is out, um, becoming the $6 million man with a new hip.

526
00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:50,920
I'll also do her introduces to this item with you, please.

527
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Yes.

528
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:53,780
Good evening.

529
00:45:53,780 --> 00:46:00,600
pleasure to be before you. I am Chris Duhers, Deputy Director of Human Services, and I'll also

530
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:06,460
be joined by Vanita Die, who is the Human Services Executive Operations Manager.

531
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,120
I wanted to go through before you, you have the expenditures for our quarterly expenditures

532
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:22,240
and EBT, electronic benefit transfers. I wanted to go through and highlight for you some of the

533
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:29,860
for items within that, and we'll be able to take questions, as well, as they arise.

534
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:36,060
So I think before I get started, as I understand as customary, a friendly reminder that we

535
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:38,560
are operating on three different fiscal years.

536
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:44,880
And so we are operating on a state fiscal year, a federal fiscal year, as well as a county

537
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,540
fiscal year.

538
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:51,500
We'll do my best to call those out as we go through some of the numbers and details contained

539
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:52,780
that they're in.

540
00:46:55,330 --> 00:46:59,750
So I think I will start with in total room field department of human services,

541
00:47:00,210 --> 00:47:10,810
total use of funds between January 1st in June 30th of 2023 was $7,672,999 dollars.

542
00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:19,030
This accounted for 37.6 of the amended 23 budget, which is well within our budgetary limits.

543
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:29,900
Going through and highlighting a few of the other items in here, shared the short story to the longer story,

544
00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:40,960
is that ultimately, by and large, Department of Human Services has seen double digit increases across most of our entitlements and public benefit programs.

545
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:55,320
Please, to also state that within our adult programs and child welfare, they've been flat or had reductions ultimately there.

546
00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:01,540
So we'll start with Colorado Works, TAN of Program.

547
00:48:01,940 --> 00:48:07,420
We've seen an increase of 22.95 percent, so almost 23 percent.

548
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:11,820
In households served, when we're comparing,

549
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:13,980
I apologize.

550
00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:18,920
In increase, when comparing to our previous state fiscal year on that,

551
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:28,120
we've served 150 households with approximately $440,000 in cash benefits and supportive services.

552
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,400
With our supplemental nutrition assistance programs,

553
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:41,240
food assistance, we saw, and almost 20% increase in household served over the previous fiscal year.

554
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:52,300
Through SNAP, we've served 2,739 households and have issued a $9.6 million in food benefits.

555
00:48:54,850 --> 00:49:03,910
Medicated experience to a double digit increases well with 15.3% increase in the first six months of 2023.

556
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:08,050
When we're comparing to the same six months in 2022.

557
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:17,910
In the one program that is remained relatively flat within the public benefit programs as our child care assistance program,

558
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:25,510
program, C-CAP served 72 households in the first six months of 2023 versus 76 households

559
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:27,870
in the same time period in 2022.

560
00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:34,930
And then I wanted to highlight a collaboration that occurred between our self-sufficiency

561
00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:38,590
division and our child adult and family services division.

562
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:42,530
And this was to implement a change based upon federal guidance.

563
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:50,890
So, the teams work together to identify and close cases for parental fees that were associated with children in foster care.

564
00:49:51,150 --> 00:49:58,090
Ultimately, this resulted in 45 families being relieved of $252,000 in parental fees.

565
00:49:59,210 --> 00:50:04,170
And I think we want to highlight in that what this does for our community.

566
00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:19,630
And ultimately we recover a very small percentage of those parental fees from families as the majority of individuals are lower income and through the process of collection and going through the child's port.

567
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:32,070
Enforcement retraumatizes those families and so ultimately this money allows to stay with those families that are working to stabilize themselves and to regain custody of their children.

568
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:44,910
In the administrative side of things, you know, it is streamlined and helped to reduce the burden that we serve as well to recover those funds.

569
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:50,910
And so that is impacts to child support enforcement staff as well as to our judicial system.

570
00:50:52,210 --> 00:50:57,930
And so we're pleased of that partnership and what transpired with that.

571
00:50:59,370 --> 00:51:03,230
And finally, room field department of human services

572
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:10,090
has served and estimated and duplicated households of 8,493

573
00:51:10,090 --> 00:51:12,610
individuals in the first half of 2023.

574
00:51:13,690 --> 00:51:18,550
This is an 11.67% increase when compared to the same time last year.

575
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:22,850
I would like to turn the floor over to Vinita Dieta,

576
00:51:23,090 --> 00:51:26,650
share some comparison data that is a follow-up to a question

577
00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:31,050
that was asked by Council Member Ward from the last quarterly EBT report.

578
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,320
Thank you, Mr. Doors.

579
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,640
Good evening, Board members.

580
00:51:40,340 --> 00:51:41,220
The need to die.

581
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,380
I'm the Executive Operations Manager for Human Services.

582
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,360
And I have some graphs that I wanted to present to you.

583
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:56,280
I want to preface this with the fact that the numbers that you see in this EBT report

584
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,380
are actual numbers for a broomfield.

585
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:06,820
We have the actual data obviously for our case loads, and so we can provide you with unduplicated numbers and that sort of thing.

586
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,300
And when you see distinct numbers for monthly activity, those are actual numbers for broomfield.

587
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:22,700
What I'm going to show you on these slides, I've got from the State Department, and what they use is an average monthly case load.

588
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:31,160
And so the numbers won't jive but it puts us on a level playing field so that you can see how we compared other counties.

589
00:52:32,420 --> 00:52:33,160
Next slide please.

590
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:47,700
So we picked the three largest programs because we have to do it on a programmatic level just because all of the counties have different ways of methodologies of estimating their

591
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,940
the residents that they serve.

592
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:56,220
So we've picked our food assistance snap, Medicaid,

593
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,460
and then also Colorado Works, TANF.

594
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:01,760
So this first slide, this shows you food assistance,

595
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,940
the food assistance program, and it is by state fiscal year.

596
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,300
I want to, this was from the Colorado Department

597
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:15,900
of Human Services, and I want to do to recognize that at the time

598
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:23,060
that we prepared these slides for this council meeting that state fiscal year 2223 data was

599
00:53:23,060 --> 00:53:31,780
not available for SNAP. So these are the four previous fiscal years. So what I want you to

600
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:40,100
notice is that the first the blue bar, state fiscal year, 1819, that was kind of a standard year,

601
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:42,580
know COVID at that point in time.

602
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:49,020
And I think, as you can see, for state fiscal year, 18, 19, and state fiscal year, 19,

603
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,500
20, because we just started COVID just started in March and we ended in June.

604
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,620
Those were relatively stable years, and that was true for Brunefield as well.

605
00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:07,240
But you can see, from the orange to the gray bars in this graph, that all of our surrounding

606
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:13,760
counties, which include Adams, or Rappaho, Boulder, Denver, Jefferson, Lairmer, and Weld.

607
00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:16,780
And of course, we're the smallest, because we're a medium-sized and these are all

608
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:17,460
big 11.

609
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:25,200
That you can see the trend as we move through COVID into state fiscal year 2021.

610
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,820
We saw very large increases.

611
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:33,080
Double digits for almost everyone in 24.5 for Adams, 19% for a Rappaho.

612
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,160
So we had a 23% over 23% increase in food assistance.

613
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:46,080
So this is a level playing field because these are average monthly case load numbers, ours

614
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,840
are a little bit different as I mentioned, but you can see the overall trend for all counties

615
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,980
was increasing.

616
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,640
So next slide please.

617
00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:09,530
This next slide is Medicaid and this came from healthcare policy and finance, and we do have

618
00:55:09,530 --> 00:55:15,190
the report numbers on a monthly basis, so we had numbers for state fiscal year 2223,

619
00:55:15,810 --> 00:55:22,080
but again you can see for Bloomfield as well as all of these other counties the trend is

620
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:30,420
And it was increasing more during COVID, but I think the trend continued upward for all counties.

621
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,780
Next slide, please.

622
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,760
And the last slide is our Colorado Works TANF.

623
00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:52,060
And what's interesting about this slide is that for that particular program, what we saw in

624
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:58,460
but as money was in the system with unemployment benefits and other supports from the

625
00:55:58,460 --> 00:56:05,640
ARPA and various funding for the COVID emergency or the public health emergency, that a lot

626
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:12,220
of our households would cycle on and off, because they would have resources that would then

627
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:19,400
make them ineligible for the program. And it would be increased. So now you can see that most of

628
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,860
counties are back to pre-pandemic levels with the households that they serve.

629
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:31,060
So these were the three, I just wanted to show you the trends because Council Member Ward

630
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:34,660
had asked about how we compared to other counties.

631
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,680
So this was in response to that request.

632
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Thank you.

633
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,940
Thank you so much, Ms. Di.

634
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,500
We appreciate the follow-up.

635
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,360
Is that conclude your presentation, your update, Mr. Doors?

636
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:54,400
It does. Thank you. Thank you very much. We'll now proceed with public comments starting with in person if anyone

637
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,480
Like to speak on this item now's the time to come up to the podium.

638
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,160
The next is public comments on the phone

639
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Don't see any of those. So we'll go to questions from the board board member Ward and then Marshall.

640
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:22,680
Thank you, Mayor. I just want to thank you all and health and human services for bringing my question back

641
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,620
Um, to be honest, I kind of forgot the question.

642
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Less than you brought it forward.

643
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:28,900
It's been so long since you've presented.

644
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,300
Um, but thank you again for answering that question.

645
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,660
I just have a few quick questions about the presentation.

646
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,360
Some of the numbers real quick.

647
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,220
Uh, the first one relates to the child welfare block grant.

648
00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:52,770
Um, the chart that's in the staff memo shows a decrease in that grant expenditure.

649
00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:58,250
Is that our county expenditure or is that the state overall first?

650
00:57:59,210 --> 00:58:00,290
It is a good question.

651
00:58:00,830 --> 00:58:01,470
Thank you for that.

652
00:58:01,630 --> 00:58:06,290
And I'm so happy that Vinita Dye is here to join me to help answer that question.

653
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:24,390
But you're looking at in this grant or in this graph is just the congregate care expenditures.

654
00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:33,510
So typically congregate care expenditures foster care is an 80, 20-slit, 50% federal, 30% state,

655
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:41,490
in 20% county. And this is just a snapshot of our congregate care expenditures and of which

656
00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:45,630
have decreased significantly over the years. And that's what we're trying to show you here

657
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:53,230
is that because of the work that our prevention team has done that we're not that children

658
00:58:53,230 --> 00:58:58,490
and out of home placement are with kin or in foster homes and family like settings.

659
00:58:59,210 --> 00:59:06,270
Okay. Thank you. So just to clarify, what is the reason we're seeing that overall decrease

660
00:59:06,270 --> 00:59:12,490
is that because we're not having as many children in number having to place them to foster

661
00:59:12,490 --> 00:59:17,550
care, or can, et cetera, or is that a decrease in the level of funding we're seeing from federal

662
00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:18,370
and state partners?

663
00:59:19,810 --> 00:59:27,010
The, one of the primary reasons is that the family's first prevention act that was enacted

664
00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:35,070
But I think in 2015 or somewhere in 2015, in 2018, much or at the federal level, was going

665
00:59:35,830 --> 00:59:43,890
to diminish the amount of funds we could draw down from the feds, and if we didn't address

666
00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:49,430
these congregate care settings, because that has been deemed to not be good for children

667
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:54,810
and out of on gear. So really it was driven by legislation and then of course state and county park.

668
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,100
Our partners work together to make sure that we were in compliance.

669
01:00:04,420 --> 01:00:12,020
Okay, thank you. And then my last question so far relates to the overall table that was at the beginning

670
01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:18,500
of the presentation for sources and uses of funds. Two questions that fit in with it.

671
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:26,560
One question is first under sources of revenues as other revenues and taxes. Can you kind of just for the public

672
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,820
explain what does that entail?

673
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Where does those other revenues and taxes come from?

674
01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:34,260
Is that county taxes?

675
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,600
Is that something else?

676
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:44,200
These would be our millevee, and then we do have some fees, but not many in human services.

677
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,500
So it's our millevee.

678
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,100
All right, thank you.

679
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:46,120
Thank you.

680
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,320
The 1.5, I think, millevee, perfect.

681
01:00:50,780 --> 01:00:56,020
And then the last question that goes along with that item is, it says,

682
01:00:56,020 --> 01:01:01,160
So far, we use 73.39% of that.

683
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:09,820
Why is that particular number so much higher than the average 37.6 we've seen for use of funds?

684
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,240
Is there...

685
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:19,400
I think typically what we've seen in the last couple of years is our sources and uses have increased dramatically because of food assistance.

686
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,160
because food assistants, families were paid for the max

687
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,680
apartments, and then there was also what we're called

688
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,760
pandemic EBT benefits, which were for school-lates children,

689
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:31,780
for lunch programs and whatnot.

690
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,260
So all counties, including ours, those numbers, skyrocketed.

691
01:01:38,260 --> 01:01:42,300
I think we went from about $250,000 a month

692
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:44,840
and food assistants benefits back when I started.

693
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:51,980
to at one month we had one million eight because there was pandemic benefits issues and that sort of thing.

694
01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:56,040
So that's where where and those are 100% benefits, 100% federal.

695
01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,500
Okay. Thank you.

696
01:02:01,420 --> 01:02:01,880
Thank you.

697
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:02,640
Can't remember Marshall.

698
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,140
Thank you.

699
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:04,240
Thank you, Mayor.

700
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,220
A couple of follow-up questions from Council Member Ward.

701
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:06,900
Just to clarify.

702
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:12,220
The big the three snap Medicaid in can of funds.

703
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:17,860
Are any of those funds coming from the city kind of broomfield or those all passed through from the state and federal government?

704
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:28,500
For Medicaid, we, as broomfield, do not

705
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,200
administration funding through hip-puff.

706
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:42,640
So those are an 80-20 split.

707
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,580
And it primarily, it primarily supports staff that are determining eligibility.

708
01:02:48,580 --> 01:02:50,080
Hickpuff pays

709
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:09,350
and TANF is passed through and no TANF is a block allocation as well and it's about

710
01:03:09,350 --> 01:03:13,450
85-85 percent federal and 15 percent

711
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:18,140
and then one final one follow-up off of the presentation

712
01:03:18,140 --> 01:03:23,980
related to Council Member Ward's previous question on the county comparison do we happen to have those numbers

713
01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:26,200
audit per capita basis

714
01:03:34,330 --> 01:03:40,370
thank you very much Council Member Hankle thank you Mayor and Council Member

715
01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:45,390
Marshallian you just took my first question. I think I asked this last time too, but I think

716
01:03:45,390 --> 01:03:49,210
it's a hard thing to pin down. As far as we have more people moving in the broomfields,

717
01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:54,510
so generally we're going to serve more of the population with these benefits. I think that's just

718
01:03:56,270 --> 01:04:02,190
you know we can't necessarily say causational correlation, but we definitely need to look at that

719
01:04:02,190 --> 01:04:06,110
as far as our total population, but I think it's also hard to count our total population without

720
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:09,890
some sort of census work. So I would like to see that next time per capita

721
01:04:10,810 --> 01:04:17,690
The second question is, is talking about, you know, just the relationships that we have

722
01:04:17,690 --> 01:04:18,610
with other entities.

723
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:24,570
So, if you guys would mind explaining your relationship with room-field fish, we know that

724
01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:29,490
they are in a bit of a direct situation right now because what's happening generally when

725
01:04:29,490 --> 01:04:36,150
you see food scarcity or, you know, people really going to our food banks, it's because

726
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:38,810
they're trying to pay their rent and they're trying to make sure that they stand their

727
01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:38,970
home.

728
01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:43,970
So what sort of relationship do we have with fish and what are what trends are we seeing alongside them?

729
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:48,040
If you know.

730
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:49,720
I want to put you guys on this box.

731
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:51,080
I know you're kind of.

732
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:51,360
Yeah.

733
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,200
So proud of the relationship that we hold with fish.

734
01:04:55,420 --> 01:05:00,820
One of our core community partners among others that we're proud to partner with.

735
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:08,060
And so the support, I think, going, you know, as a core of it.

736
01:05:08,060 --> 01:05:17,440
and I think programmatically we partner, a fair amount with fish, but I also, it would maybe

737
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:23,200
have the need to share a little bit about our nonprofit grants that we put out to the community

738
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,180
to help support some of that.

739
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:40,940
Councillor member, that we have two grants that we received once the family first grant of

740
01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:46,020
100,000 dollars that fish is administering to assist us

741
01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:48,320
with the family first prevention work.

742
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,920
And then also we had another grant,

743
01:05:52,660 --> 01:05:55,200
well, the Collaborative Management Program,

744
01:05:55,300 --> 01:06:02,240
fishes taken on that program and they are administering

745
01:06:02,540 --> 01:06:05,300
that there's some changes coming through legislation,

746
01:06:05,620 --> 01:06:08,600
but I think we have a very close relationship with fish,

747
01:06:08,620 --> 01:06:10,160
and then we also have the non-profits,

748
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:15,280
the non-profit funds that fish applies for every year and

749
01:06:16,220 --> 01:06:19,300
Burmfield's been quite generous with them over the years.

750
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,760
So we have many multiple ways that we partner with fish.

751
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,600
Okay, thank you so much.

752
01:06:26,140 --> 01:06:28,700
Yeah, sometimes when we walk through with people,

753
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,420
working through the SNAP program,

754
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,500
trying to figure out what they're eligible for at the grocery

755
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:34,220
store can kind of be kind of daunting.

756
01:06:35,260 --> 01:06:37,260
I walk through that myself with some,

757
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,760
and it's just it's very difficult.

758
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:43,460
So, but I do appreciate the way that our staff has made that really accessible for people.

759
01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:48,980
I do love the way that our staff also moves people through the system a lot quicker than others.

760
01:06:49,140 --> 01:06:57,600
I will say that I've heard through many different resources that our county is one of the fastest to make sure that people are being served.

761
01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:06,380
And a lot of our nonprofits and other places are very envious of our other human services teams in providing that for people.

762
01:07:06,380 --> 01:07:08,300
Thank you.

763
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:08,880
Thank you.

764
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,640
Any other board member comments or questions?

765
01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:20,360
Next is the board's consideration of proposed resolution number 2023-118-bss.

766
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:26,640
Will the clerk please read proposed resolution number 2023-118-bss by title?

767
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Resolution number 2023-118-bss acknowledging review of expenditures and electronic benefit transfers

768
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,640
for the period January 1, 2023 to June 30th, 2023.

769
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:40,780
Thank you.

770
01:07:40,900 --> 01:07:43,860
There are motion, council member board member Marshallson.

771
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,060
I move the resolution number 2023-18-SBSSB adopted.

772
01:07:49,620 --> 01:07:50,300
Thank you.

773
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Is there a second board member hinkle?

774
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:52,440
Second.

775
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:53,780
Thank you.

776
01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:55,560
Is there any discussion?

777
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:58,600
All right.

778
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,320
Well, the clerk, please call the roll for the Board of Social Services.

779
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:03,940
Come in.

780
01:08:05,180 --> 01:08:10,920
Tell Gideo. Yes, Henkel. Yes, Jisersky. Yes Leslie.

781
01:08:24,170 --> 01:08:29,830
Yes Marshallsion. Yes. Shaff. Yes. Ward. Yes Anderson. Yes.

782
01:08:30,910 --> 01:08:35,110
One more call for board member Leslie. Can you hear us?

783
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:46,940
We'll move on of those misrages. Can I say it was unanimous or how do I handle it? No, I would say the number with one answer.

784
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:56,700
Okay. So that passes with nine to one to one nine to zero with one option. Okay. That passes

785
01:08:56,700 --> 01:09:02,140
nine to zero with one absent. Thank you for that. Just want to get the record straight. Seeing

786
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:06,920
there is no further business before the Board of Social Services that meeting is adjourned.

787
01:09:08,670 --> 01:09:12,810
Our first item under Council Business this evening is a public hearing and Council's consideration

788
01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:19,010
on second and final reading of proposed ordinance number 2223 relating to room fields employees

789
01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:24,250
review committee. I'll now declare the public hearing open. Council has a copy of the agenda

790
01:09:24,250 --> 01:09:29,050
memorandum, which I'll ask our staff to summarize. Thank you, Mayor. And this is the long awaited

791
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:35,910
not Kelly Bellin that's walking through while walking down. But the employee review committee

792
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:41,990
has been something that our employees begin working on during COVID. We've all been

793
01:09:42,810 --> 01:09:47,570
very impressed with the multi-disciplinary team. In fact, the nominations are back open again.

794
01:09:49,150 --> 01:09:52,870
This building you are going to give us a brief overview given it is second reading.

795
01:09:54,130 --> 01:10:00,750
Please continue. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Potem, council. My name is Kelly Bailing. I'm a

796
01:10:00,750 --> 01:10:06,230
CIP project manager for the city and county of Brunefield. This evening, I'm here representing

797
01:10:06,230 --> 01:10:10,250
the Employees Review Committee. This is the proposed ordinance

798
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:16,230
amending chapter 2-10 to the Brunefield Municipal Code relating to the Employees Review Committee.

799
01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:18,350
Can I get the next slide please?

800
01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:23,720
So just a little bit of background on the Employees Review Committee.

801
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:27,800
The ERC was established in 1985.

802
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:34,060
Originally this committee was established to support the city manager's office

803
01:10:34,060 --> 01:10:37,620
in reviewing the French benefits package for employees.

804
01:10:38,420 --> 01:10:42,820
We have now expanded the topics that this group covers

805
01:10:42,820 --> 01:10:45,840
to include workplace culture, employee recognition,

806
01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:47,280
and workplace policies.

807
01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:52,120
Members are elected by their peers to serve for a two-year term.

808
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:57,440
And currently the responsibilities of the ERC

809
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,420
are outlined in the room field municipal code.

810
01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:08,800
the section was originally approved in 1985 and was amended back in 2001. Next slide, please.

811
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,880
So this proposed ordinance removes most rules from the municipal code in order to allow

812
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,900
the ERC to establish a separate set of bylaws, similar to other boards, committees, and commissions

813
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:28,760
throughout Bloomfield. The bylaws will allow the ERC to make adjustments and accommodate

814
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:34,300
organizational changes, eliminating the need for amendments to the municipal code every time we

815
01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:39,360
make small changes to the committee. So I just want to outline some of the changes that we

816
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:45,680
are proposing. Generally, they include topics around group composition and leadership, roles

817
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,900
of ERC members, and the attendance policy, and also the election process. Next slide, please.

818
01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:58,470
So first, for proposed changes to the group composition and leadership, this proposed

819
01:11:58,470 --> 01:12:03,810
ordinance would defer the details of employee representation to the committee by laws removing

820
01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:08,710
them from the municipal code. So this includes things such as the grouping of departments

821
01:12:08,710 --> 01:12:15,090
for representation. The number of representatives on the ERC, we're proposing the removal

822
01:12:15,090 --> 01:12:22,170
of the alternate designation and I will get back to that here in a moment and also the definition

823
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:24,550
of the leadership roles within the group.

824
01:12:24,990 --> 01:12:25,610
Next slide, please.

825
01:12:27,870 --> 01:12:33,110
The next set of proposed changes are around the roles of ERC members and our attendance policy.

826
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:38,290
So the proposed bylaws introduce a more adaptable attendance policy and this is really

827
01:12:38,290 --> 01:12:43,090
a design to accommodate committee members whose job roles entailed greater unpredictability

828
01:12:43,090 --> 01:12:44,410
on a day-to-day basis.

829
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:49,910
Since we represent all employees throughout the city and county of Brunefield, this can include

830
01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:56,450
job position positions such as patrol officers or employees that work for in public

831
01:12:56,450 --> 01:13:02,730
works. We also are proposing to remove the requirement that ERC members advise the

832
01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:07,390
city manager concerning the employee pension program. This is just a little bit

833
01:13:07,390 --> 01:13:10,670
outdated. There is a separate convention pension committee that's been

834
01:13:10,670 --> 01:13:14,010
established that provides feedback and guidance on the employee pension

835
01:13:14,010 --> 01:13:20,830
program, which doesn't impact all employees. Next slide, please. Finally, we are proposing

836
01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:26,370
changes to the elections policy. So again, these are items that would be removed from

837
01:13:26,370 --> 01:13:31,730
the municipal code and put into the committee bylaws. So currently in the municipal code,

838
01:13:31,930 --> 01:13:37,350
ERC elections are conducted by human resources. The bylaws would change this so that the

839
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:42,850
elections would be run by the ERC's policies and procedures subcommittee. As I mentioned,

840
01:13:42,850 --> 01:13:45,990
I would get back to reference the references to alternate.

841
01:13:46,910 --> 01:13:49,730
Currently, the committee is comprised of 10 members and 10

842
01:13:49,730 --> 01:13:50,390
alternates.

843
01:13:51,130 --> 01:13:55,830
However, since we reconvened the ERC back in late 2022,

844
01:13:56,270 --> 01:14:00,030
we have found the contribution of all of our committee members

845
01:14:00,030 --> 01:14:01,250
to be incredibly valuable.

846
01:14:01,450 --> 01:14:03,430
And we'd like to remove that alternate designation,

847
01:14:03,850 --> 01:14:05,710
so the each department and group of departments

848
01:14:05,710 --> 01:14:09,410
has two full representatives, instead of one representative

849
01:14:09,410 --> 01:14:10,210
and one alternate.

850
01:14:11,210 --> 01:14:16,590
And then finally, we'd like to propose the amendment that seasonal and temporary employees

851
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:21,930
employed at the time of the elections will be allowed to vote recommendations by the

852
01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:28,910
ERC to the City Manager's office or to the Human Resources Department do often impact both

853
01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:33,490
seasonal and temporary employees and we want to make sure that they have a voice in electing

854
01:14:33,490 --> 01:14:42,250
represents them. Next slide, please. So, in closing, I just want to note that employees

855
01:14:42,250 --> 01:14:50,230
have been notified of the proposed changes to the ERC, excuse me, to the municipal code,

856
01:14:50,650 --> 01:14:56,130
and movement of a lot of this language into a separate set of bylaws through monthly newsletter

857
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:59,970
communications and we haven't received any feedback.

858
01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:08,300
On the committee, have voted unanimously to move forward with requesting an amendment to the municipal code and establish a separate set of bylaws.

859
01:15:09,340 --> 01:15:15,960
And this just means amendments to the bylaws in the future can be made as needed to best serve broomfield employees.

860
01:15:16,780 --> 01:15:20,620
So that concludes my presentation. If there any questions.

861
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:28,820
All right. Thank you very much. We will proceed with public comment starting with in person. If there's anyone who'd like to be heard on this item, please come to the podium.

862
01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:32,820
share your name and neighborhood for the record and limit your comments for three minutes.

863
01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:36,450
Don't see anyone online.

864
01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:38,710
So questions from City Council are next.

865
01:15:39,090 --> 01:15:41,430
Members should limit themselves to questions during this portion.

866
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:46,510
And the time to introduce amendments or state positions for or against this item is later.

867
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:48,490
Are there any questions from Council?

868
01:15:49,870 --> 01:15:50,330
Council members.

869
01:15:51,330 --> 01:15:52,150
Thank you, Mayor.

870
01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:56,070
So just something you said made me think I can't remember the answer.

871
01:15:56,450 --> 01:15:58,330
If you covered it or if it was in the council memo.

872
01:15:58,330 --> 01:16:03,510
but regarding the bylaws and the approval of future changes to those bylaws, or those done

873
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:07,830
by the entire membership within election, or those done by just the ERC.

874
01:16:09,150 --> 01:16:10,290
Thank you, Council Member Schaff.

875
01:16:11,090 --> 01:16:17,930
So changes to future bylaws would be made following proper procedure by members that are

876
01:16:17,930 --> 01:16:20,210
elected to the Employees Review Committee.

877
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:28,310
Okay, so they'll have an opportunity to review those bylaws before they are changing

878
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:35,950
change. Every employee has already had the opportunity to review the draft by laws, so the draft

879
01:16:35,950 --> 01:16:40,610
by laws that were included with the Council memo have also been shared with the employees

880
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:42,530
in the City of County of Brimfield.

881
01:16:42,810 --> 01:16:47,670
First, there are a bit of future changes to those by laws. Will those be available for

882
01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:48,510
the employees to review?

883
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:50,930
Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.

884
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:54,130
Thank you. Any other council member questions?

885
01:16:55,350 --> 01:17:00,930
There are being no further questions. The public hearing is closed. Next is Council's consideration

886
01:17:00,930 --> 01:17:06,250
proposed ordinance number 2223 on 2nd and final reading. Will the clerk please read

887
01:17:06,250 --> 01:17:09,310
proposed ordinance number 2223 by title.

888
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:27,180
Ordnance number 2223, amending chapter 2-10, employees review committee within the

889
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:29,300
and final reading in order of publishing full.

890
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:35,460
Is there any discussion?

891
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:37,940
That's a member word.

892
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:54,260
Thank you, Mayor. Yes, I just want to say I will be supporting this. I think it is great to have the employees actually making their own by losses, especially since Council cannot really be interfering with day-to-day operations and what employees do.

893
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,780
So I don't think it's fair that we get to dictate how they should be represented when they should be represented.

894
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:07,080
And what the laws that they are governed by be created by us, it should be created by the employees.

895
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,160
Thank you.

896
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,120
Thank you very much.

897
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,160
Council Member Lim.

898
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,240
I wanted to recognize the importance of this going forward.

899
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:21,500
And at the same time, I am the Council rep on the medical care employees plan board of trustees.

900
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:29,760
And we had the opportunity at that last meeting to recognize those who have served on that board for a long time.

901
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:36,600
time for decades actually. So I went into recognize Officer Sean McLaughlin and Monty Heffner

902
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:44,100
for their years of service to the medical board. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there any

903
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:44,840
other discussion?

904
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,120
No further discussion. We'll move forward to the vote on ordnance.

905
01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:58,840
Mayor, we did that. Oh no, you're in the right. I just want to clarify the motion and I might

906
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,940
heard it wrong. Okay. Was the motion to publish by title or publish in full?

907
01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:09,100
Publish in full. And I just want to make sure that was intentional because

908
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,320
typically on second reading we publish by title. It says by title in my script.

909
01:19:13,460 --> 01:19:15,980
Mine says publish in full. Can you read it?

910
01:19:15,980 --> 01:19:17,680
So I can read it if you like me too.

911
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:20,700
That I know our clerk's office would appreciate that.

912
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,480
All right. So instead of published in full, just publish by title.

913
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:25,100
My title. All right.

914
01:19:28,170 --> 01:19:29,770
So Mayor, I will say.

915
01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:37,390
I'm ordinance number 2223 be adopted on second and final reading in order published by

916
01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:37,850
title.

917
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:38,610
Thank you.

918
01:19:38,750 --> 01:19:39,270
Is there a second?

919
01:19:39,410 --> 01:19:40,070
Council Member Lim.

920
01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:41,450
Thank you.

921
01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:42,430
Any other discussion?

922
01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:45,920
Moving on from discussion?

923
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,840
Seeing no further discussion, we'll move forward to the vote.

924
01:19:50,340 --> 01:19:52,000
Will the clerk please call the roll.

925
01:19:52,740 --> 01:20:01,680
Delgadillo, yes, Henkel, Jiserski, Leslie, Lim, yes, Marsh Olsion,

926
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:08,620
Yes, chef, yes, Ward, yes, Anderson, yes, Cohen, yes.

927
01:20:08,620 --> 01:20:10,540
Thank you, that passes unanimously.

928
01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:15,040
The final item under Council Business this evening is a public hearing in Council's

929
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:22,180
consideration, a proposed resolution number 2023-999, relating to the North area tanks and pump

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01:20:22,180 --> 01:20:22,620
station.

931
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:24,940
I'll now declare the public hearing open.

932
01:20:25,340 --> 01:20:27,880
We'll follow the city standard public hearing procedures.

933
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,480
In this matter, the city is the applicant.

934
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:36,120
City Council's role remains the same, which is the decision-making body on the land use application.

935
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:39,260
First, staff will present a summary of the proposal.

936
01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:43,920
Next, we'll have the applicant's presentation that will last for public comments and final

937
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,020
comments from the applicant and finally questions from the City Council members.

938
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:52,340
Council has a copy of the agenda memorandum which I'll ask our staff to summarize.

939
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:58,320
Thank you, Mayor Annaburt and Zetti, co-director of community development will begin the

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01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:58,880
presentation.

941
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:09,600
Her team member, our other co-chair of co-chair, but co-leader of community development.

942
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:17,920
Katie Allen is also here. Director of Public Works Ken Rutt is here and for additional

943
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,380
questions I just wanted Council to know that North Metro Fire Marshall Steve Gosling

944
01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:26,840
is also in the audience to feel the additional questions. With that Ms. Burton's Eddie, please

945
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:27,520
kick us off.

946
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,900
Thank you. Good evening Mayor and Mayor Protam, City Council.

947
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:32,740
If I could have the next slide please.

948
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,320
Room field is proposing a site development plan amendment to install three partially

949
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,940
buried water tanks, as well as a pump station, to the south of the Anthem finally

950
01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:46,380
number 24 neighborhood, which is also called the Anthem Reserve neighborhood.

951
01:21:47,420 --> 01:21:51,560
The proposed infrastructure is necessary to provide support to new and existing development

952
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,520
within the northern portion of Brimfield.

953
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:58,060
The site is generally east of Lowell and south of Sheridan Parkway.

954
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,900
The proposed location has been selected due to the elevation necessary for the water tank

955
01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:07,420
operations, as well as the proximity to the current and future developments that is needed

956
01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:08,900
to be served by the tanks.

957
01:22:09,620 --> 01:22:11,900
Ms. Allen, on behalf of the Capital and Proof and Division,

958
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:13,520
we'll be discussing the site selection

959
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,000
and greater detail as part of the applicant presentation.

960
01:22:17,180 --> 01:22:19,900
The proposed tank site in AMPM 24 has been identified

961
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:22,700
as a future location for the water tanks

962
01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:25,340
for over 20 years due to the ground elevation.

963
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,640
Brimfield's water system model identified

964
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,760
a future water system capital expansion

965
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,460
needs based on the future storage of this location.

966
01:22:33,460 --> 01:22:41,920
When the Anthem PUD was originally approved back in 2006, it established the uses permitted within the Anthem PUD,

967
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,180
PUD planned unit development, the custom zoning for the Anthem area.

968
01:22:46,220 --> 01:22:54,180
The property was then that is now known as tracks B and E. It was then identified as track W32 as open lands.

969
01:22:54,780 --> 01:23:01,720
It referenced the municipal water storage tanks were an allowed use in track W32 subject to Bernfield approval.

970
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:07,840
During the development review process, the Anthem 24 developers set aside property for

971
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,020
future water storage as part of Anthem finally number 24.

972
01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:14,160
And that flat was finalized in 2016.

973
01:23:15,380 --> 01:23:19,920
Next up, actually, if we could stay there, I have more to say.

974
01:23:20,420 --> 01:23:22,800
Sorry, my presentation is going to be a little lengthy tonight.

975
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:29,140
The 400 foot by 400 foot square track E was based on the best available information at the

976
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:37,100
And that was, I should say, without a complete design done at that time, but it was based on the best information that we had.

977
01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:50,680
The approved site development plan for the site simply stated that the area would be a general area for future potential water tank, without additional clarification of the size or the configuration of the needed storage.

978
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:56,760
Based on the knowledge available during the plotting of Anthem filing number 24, staff anticipated

979
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,980
the need for a 6 million gallon potable water storage in this location.

980
01:24:02,620 --> 01:24:07,840
The reference to a future potential water tank on the STP is an alert of potential future

981
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,100
development and was not a binding promise obligating the city to a specific design, layout,

982
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,260
or number of tanks.

983
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,900
The consideration of the proposed site development plan amendment is the process to consider

984
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:25,120
the final design layout and number of tanks for this area of anthem filing number 24.

985
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:32,520
We have two videos tonight to show where this site development plan is being considered,

986
01:24:32,700 --> 01:24:38,840
so if you could show the first video. This first video we have two because they show different perspectives.

987
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,960
The first was taken with a drone and it starts facing south along low.

988
01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:49,500
It's kind of from the parking existing parking for the trailhead there.

989
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:59,640
So the, the pump station will be just south of that parking area and then it pans to the east across the site of the future water tanks as proposed.

990
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:03,980
You can see the anthem 24 neighborhood as we continue panning towards the north.

991
01:25:04,580 --> 01:25:08,940
There's low boulevard. You can see Sheridan Parkway in the distance.

992
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,240
And then we're going to pan continuing to the west.

993
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:16,540
Again, you can see that continuation of Sheridan Parkway.

994
01:25:16,540 --> 01:25:24,980
And the flattards are in the distance while grass and silver leaf neighborhoods and then we'll continue until we're facing south on the wall.

995
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:28,860
Thank you for that video.

996
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:37,280
So then the second video that we have is from the hilltop and it's more of a perspective from an individual standing on the hilltop.

997
01:25:52,150 --> 01:25:55,930
So this is the viewpoint from the general location of the tank site.

998
01:25:55,930 --> 01:26:06,610
It began facing south east and we pan across, sorry, it looks like our video isn't loading quite as well.

999
01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:10,110
Panning towards the north, you can see the Anthem 24 neighborhood,

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01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:16,610
any west, and low, the flattards and the distance.

1001
01:26:19,730 --> 01:26:28,150
See low, and share it in, and then we're going to continue panning back towards the south, and you can see the Wilcox neighborhood as well.

1002
01:26:29,170 --> 01:26:36,150
You can see the existing water tank that is not a brim fill tank, but it is located on the open space there.

1003
01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:38,410
Thank you for those two videos.

1004
01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:40,510
Next slide, please.

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01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,040
The brim fill comprehensive plan designation for this site is open lands.

1006
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:52,800
The comprehensive plan specifies that open lands are those public and private lands acquired or preserved in the public interest.

1007
01:26:53,180 --> 01:26:57,880
They serve a variety of functions for brim fields, including conserving and protecting natural cultural,

1008
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:07,020
historic or scenic resources, providing opportunities for recreation, shaping the pattern of growth and development and preserving agricultural resources.

1009
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:13,300
The proposal as presented this evening is consistent with the comprehensive plan designation of open lands.

1010
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:26,280
While the water tanks will be constructed entirely within the designated municipal tract E, the proposed pump station and associated parking and generators will be located on tract B, which is dedicated as open space.

1011
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:41,200
The City and County of Brimfield Charter provides specific direction for construction within properties that were purchased with open space funds or those that were dedicated as open space by a developer, which is how of this property was acquired.

1012
01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:50,320
The charter outlines the changes involving less than an acre of land are exempt from what we call that changing use requirements.

1013
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:56,740
The improvements located within tract B are a total of 0.85 acres, and do not trigger the

1014
01:27:56,740 --> 01:28:01,580
change in use process described in the charter, but city council still needs to confirm

1015
01:28:01,580 --> 01:28:07,620
the exception due to the size, and they also need to confirm the payment to the open space

1016
01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:08,060
fund.

1017
01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:13,180
For parcels exempt from the change in use provision, the charter still requires compensation

1018
01:28:13,180 --> 01:28:16,160
to the open space fund for the use of the land.

1019
01:28:17,420 --> 01:28:22,860
Right now, Brimfield is valuing the undeveloped land for the purpose of the compensation

1020
01:28:22,860 --> 01:28:30,100
to the open space fund at $86,000 per acre, and applying that calculation to 0.85 acres

1021
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:36,540
of land, the payment to the open space fund for the use of the open space would be $73,100.

1022
01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:41,680
The council resolution approving the site development plan amendment includes the approval

1023
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:51,400
of a payment of $73,000, $73,100 to the open space fund for the use of the 0.85 acres of land

1024
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:52,840
as required by the charter.

1025
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:54,380
Next slide, please.

1026
01:28:56,260 --> 01:29:00,760
The tanks will provide reuse and potable water storage to residents and businesses that are

1027
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:05,580
located north of 144th Avenue, and as they mentioned are vital to providing fire protection

1028
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:09,760
and service to the areas in this portion of Brimfield.

1029
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,860
The proposed tanks will be partially buried, they also feature a flat roof style with approximately

1030
01:29:14,860 --> 01:29:21,900
8 to 11 feet of the tanks extending vertically out of the ground and about 25 to 30 feet of the tanks will

1031
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:23,940
be below the ground surface.

1032
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:31,280
The potable tanks have a diameter of 135 feet while the rease tank has a diameter of 154 feet.

1033
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:37,220
The pump station will be about 9,010 square feet and is approximately 30 feet in height.

1034
01:29:37,220 --> 01:29:43,500
Fancy news to secure the site will be 7 feet, in height, and decorative metal style with

1035
01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:44,360
some angled tips.

1036
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:49,180
This is an improvement from an early preliminary plan that had shown barbed wire, which

1037
01:29:49,180 --> 01:29:50,300
is no longer proposed.

1038
01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:54,080
Similarly, the flat roof of the structures is an improvement.

1039
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:08,100
To minimize visual impact of the tanks. The proposal will include associated generators adjacent to the

1040
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:14,460
pump station, as well as a relocation of the existing trail system in the hilltop view point. Once completed,

1041
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:22,080
it is expected that the tanks will generate one trip per day by a staff member typically via a typical passenger-style truck

1042
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:28,500
that would utilize the East West Trail from Irving Court to the tanks. They will also need to visit the pump station,

1043
01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:30,940
which can be accessed from the Trailhead Parking area.

1044
01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:35,520
I'll discuss a little bit more about access when we talk about the land use review commission

1045
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:35,880
meeting.

1046
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:37,000
Next slide, please.

1047
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,800
The study session was held in January of this year and the Memorandum was linked in our

1048
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,540
staff Memorandum for this year and tonight.

1049
01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:49,820
The study session Memorandum included details about the site selection process and other sites

1050
01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:51,660
that were considered for the water tanks.

1051
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:56,000
Based on the direction that was provided at that study session, staff moved forward with

1052
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,180
tanks in this location in the site development plan amendment was submitted and reviewed following

1053
01:31:01,180 --> 01:31:06,240
standard development review process. Planning staff has followed the typical development

1054
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:12,540
review process to evaluate the proposed application. As is required for site development

1055
01:31:12,540 --> 01:31:17,300
plan amendments, a neighborhood meeting was held last summer regarding the prior to the formal

1056
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:22,800
application being submitted. The land use review commission reviewed the proposal in July of this year

1057
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:28,220
recommended denial of the application by unanimous vote of 7 to 0 and again I'll provide

1058
01:31:28,220 --> 01:31:30,260
a little more discussion about on our next slide.

1059
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,180
All public hearing noticed requirements were met for this project.

1060
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:41,740
As noted in more detail in the stock memorandum, a key issue was identified that residents

1061
01:31:41,740 --> 01:31:45,140
have identified concerns with the proposed water tanks in this location.

1062
01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:50,800
The correspondence folder for the memorandum includes emails and written correspondence

1063
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,240
as well as a report from the Brimfield Voice website.

1064
01:31:55,580 --> 01:31:56,120
Next slide, please.

1065
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,600
Lirk, as we call it, Langease Review Commission, made a recommendation of denial, and

1066
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,900
wanted to take a little bit of time to walk through some of the concerns that were identified

1067
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:11,020
during the Langease Review Commission meeting, as well as some of their recommendations, although

1068
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:12,840
I should note they weren't a formal recommendation.

1069
01:32:13,540 --> 01:32:16,160
The recommendation of Council is a recommendation of denial.

1070
01:32:17,140 --> 01:32:21,700
During the Lirk public hearing, the Commission raised concerns related to maintenance vehicles

1071
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:27,260
and employees driving on King Court and increasing traffic within the community.

1072
01:32:27,780 --> 01:32:31,900
It was also recommended by Laird that staff explore redesigning the existing parking lot

1073
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:35,480
and pump station access to provide direct access to Lowell Boulevard.

1074
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:40,620
Staff did discuss this opportunity with Brimfield's traffic engineer who advised against

1075
01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:45,960
relocating the access to Lowell Boulevard. There was a letter of explanation that was linked

1076
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:51,100
to the staff memorandum with the more detailed explanation of why that was not recommended.

1077
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:58,680
Members of the land use review commission also stated that they felt alternative sites were not thoroughly explored for the proposal.

1078
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:08,300
The capital improvement division and coordination with the project consultant prepared an alternative site analysis which was presented to City Council in January of this year.

1079
01:33:08,740 --> 01:33:12,980
Potential sites meeting the requirement for further review for feasibility and suitability.

1080
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,360
Developed properties including private properties and public parks were removed from consideration.

1081
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,580
which really left four additional sites for alternative analysis.

1082
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,220
Based on the results of the site evaluation,

1083
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,600
the original site was identified as the preferred project location

1084
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,300
and city council directed staff at the January study session

1085
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:36,520
to proceed with this location with the partially buried option.

1086
01:33:36,940 --> 01:33:40,020
And that was what it was submitted as part of the site development

1087
01:33:40,020 --> 01:33:42,940
plan amendment and is before the city council this evening.

1088
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,260
The Landry's review commission had provided a suggestion

1089
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:52,220
that staff explore landscape screening and Birmingham to the proposed tank area to provide additional

1090
01:33:52,220 --> 01:33:52,800
screening.

1091
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,040
And staff explore this option as well.

1092
01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:00,120
There were concerns identified with the ability to provide Birmingham and increasing vegetation

1093
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:00,720
however.

1094
01:34:01,480 --> 01:34:08,600
The area adjacent to the designated tract E is city open space and does not have water or irrigation currently.

1095
01:34:09,260 --> 01:34:14,480
The establishment of landscape materials significant enough to provide adequate screening of the tanks

1096
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:20,480
would require water and irrigation lines or frequent visits by water trucks. Without water,

1097
01:34:20,540 --> 01:34:25,100
the landscape would not be able to survive in this location in our climate. Additionally,

1098
01:34:25,300 --> 01:34:30,140
the open space area is intended to be restored to its natural prairie environment and screening

1099
01:34:30,140 --> 01:34:35,280
materials such as ever greens are not consistent with species that are typically found in a habitat

1100
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:40,040
near a hilltop. Staff worked with the consultant to determine whether it was feasible to

1101
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:45,160
some berms around the water tank area. The biggest challenge there is the North West and West

1102
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:51,120
sides near King Court. The existing slope falls off very steeply in those locations. In order

1103
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:57,040
to place the berms in the area to a height that was great enough to screen the 8 to 11 feet

1104
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:04,720
that extends out of the ground. The slopes would need to exceed a 3 to 1 or 33% grade. Establishing

1105
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:10,000
vegetation on that steep of a slope would be very difficult and it would likely lead to

1106
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,580
erosion of the berm over time.

1107
01:35:12,980 --> 01:35:18,060
A paved concrete maintenance pathway is required to allow for service vehicles to access

1108
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:19,340
the proposed tapes.

1109
01:35:19,820 --> 01:35:25,100
Currently, the paved trail is located to the east of the tanks providing access to Irving Court.

1110
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:32,280
That's a coldissack, which provides the most direct access to access path to the tapes

1111
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,660
and track E.

1112
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,460
At the Land Use Review Commission hearing, it was suggested that staff explore

1113
01:35:37,460 --> 01:35:42,680
and widening the portion of the trail that goes to the south and then to the west of the tanks,

1114
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,820
originating from the parking lot, but it's accessed from King Court.

1115
01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:49,620
This is currently shown as an eight foot cross-refines trail.

1116
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:55,760
The intention of the suggestion was to eliminate maintenance vehicles accessing the site through Irving Court,

1117
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,280
and directing the maintenance vehicles to the scene point on King Court where I mentioned they also

1118
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:06,400
have to access to visit the pump station. Staff reviewed the suggestion and determined that the

1119
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:11,500
trail area currently shown will have less impact on the open space and allow

1120
01:36:11,500 --> 01:36:14,920
greater length of the trail to remain cross your fines.

1121
01:36:15,340 --> 01:36:19,880
Cresher fines is the preferred option to accommodate trail users and maintains the

1122
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:25,820
character of the open space area. The disc as discussed previously tank maintenance vehicles

1123
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:30,380
are anticipated to visit the site about once a day and will typically be using a standard pickup

1124
01:36:30,380 --> 01:36:36,380
truck for those types of trips. So we do not anticipate the them causing significant disruptions

1125
01:36:36,380 --> 01:36:42,000
to the community. Also during the Landry's Review Commission hearing, residents had identified concerns

1126
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:47,740
with sightings of a Chihuahuan metal metal arc in the open space near the tank. Details

1127
01:36:47,740 --> 01:36:51,860
regarding the wildlife and environmental studies completed for this project were included with

1128
01:36:51,860 --> 01:36:56,760
staff's memorandum for council this evening. There have been two professional biologists working

1129
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:02,640
on aspects of this application. Those biologists have confirmed that the Chihuahuan metal arc

1130
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,480
is not listed as a threatened or endangered species,

1131
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,640
so regardless of whether there are Western or Chihuahua in

1132
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,060
Meta-Larx present, the recommendations of the report

1133
01:37:11,060 --> 01:37:14,920
would not have been changed. As is done with all development projects,

1134
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,800
a biologist will also be required to revisit the site prior to construction

1135
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,580
commencing. We call this a 20-day letter because the visit has to occur

1136
01:37:22,580 --> 01:37:27,000
within 20 days of the beginning of construction. Once that visit occurs,

1137
01:37:27,380 --> 01:37:31,920
there will be additional recommendations from that biologist

1138
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:37,460
based on that updated visit, and all requirements of the recommendations of that

1139
01:37:37,460 --> 01:37:41,340
biologist report will be followed as this typical process for Brimfield.

1140
01:37:42,260 --> 01:37:42,820
Next slide, please.

1141
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:48,960
The proposed site development plan amendment has followed Brimfield's typical development

1142
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:49,820
review process.

1143
01:37:50,440 --> 01:37:54,520
The site development plan amendment must be reviewed, consistent with the Brimfield Municipal Code

1144
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:59,060
requirements, and will need to be reviewed against the findings of approval that are listed

1145
01:37:59,060 --> 01:38:01,980
both in the memorandum as well as on the screen.

1146
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:04,880
They're probably a little more legible in your memorandum

1147
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:06,640
since I know it's hard to read those screens when there's

1148
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:07,340
that many words.

1149
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:09,300
That concludes staff's presentation.

1150
01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:13,800
But Ms. Allen has the applicant's presentation as well.

1151
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:16,220
Thank you, Ms. Burton, Zeddy.

1152
01:38:16,780 --> 01:38:18,000
Well, the applicant's representative,

1153
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,180
please identify themselves for the record

1154
01:38:20,180 --> 01:38:22,700
prior to beginning their presentation this evening.

1155
01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:25,000
Hi, good evening.

1156
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:26,960
Again, my name is Katie Allen.

1157
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,400
on the City and County Engineer.

1158
01:38:29,060 --> 01:38:32,240
Thank you, Ms. Burton Zeddy, for the very thorough presentation.

1159
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,580
Where my slides duplicate, I will move quickly,

1160
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:38,720
since I know this is a long presentation.

1161
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:40,940
Next slide, please.

1162
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,020
So, Brumfield needs additional water storage

1163
01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:49,800
to support the existing needs, as well as future growth

1164
01:38:50,370 --> 01:38:51,460
in the City and County.

1165
01:38:52,420 --> 01:38:56,420
A tank site has been planned for the Anthem 24 area

1166
01:38:56,420 --> 01:39:03,360
for many years due to its location and site elevation, and it was first documented in planning

1167
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:10,480
and zoning documents in the 2006 Anthem West PUD, where it states municipal water storage tanks

1168
01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:18,400
are allowed in tract W32, per CCOB approval that is now as Anna discussed now tract B and

1169
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,560
of Anthem 24.

1170
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:28,000
Tracti was dedicated in 2016 with the Anthem filing 24-platt.

1171
01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:34,460
At that time, engineering staff assumed we needed 6 million gallons of water storage

1172
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:38,400
and requested a 400 by 400-foot square.

1173
01:39:39,620 --> 01:39:44,360
That was based on actually the inner lock and tank, which is 6 million gallons, and

1174
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,820
that's the approximate area of that site, and so that was our basis.

1175
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,260
Next slide, please,

1176
01:39:54,880 --> 01:40:00,000
2018, the Public Works Department worked on a reuse model with

1177
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,500
right water engineers and that model and report indicated the need for a reuse water

1178
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:15,660
storage tank in this general area, a preliminary design and feasibility report for the project

1179
01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:22,580
was completed in July 2022, which quantified the size and number of both potable and reuse tanks.

1180
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:28,480
The report also confirmed the need for a booster pump station for both the potable and reuse systems.

1181
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:37,280
So this project has proposed includes the construction of two three million gallon potable water storage tanks

1182
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:44,080
and one four million gallon reuse water storage tank and a pump station housing two booster stations.

1183
01:40:45,660 --> 01:40:47,340
next slide please.

1184
01:40:49,540 --> 01:40:54,300
Slide just shows the service area so it's everything in the City and County

1185
01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:57,860
of Brunefield, North of 144th Avenue. Next slide.

1186
01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:02,830
So I wanted to spend some time and go back

1187
01:41:02,830 --> 01:41:07,730
through the Alternatives Analysis since this was brought up by the Land Use Review Commission.

1188
01:41:10,510 --> 01:41:17,150
So the current site, the track DE is just under four acres and we're using an additional point

1189
01:41:17,150 --> 01:41:23,390
five acres for the pump station, so when we went to look at alternative sites, we said,

1190
01:41:23,710 --> 01:41:26,350
okay, we need to look for sites that are five acres are larger.

1191
01:41:28,670 --> 01:41:29,890
And then the current

1192
01:41:29,890 --> 01:41:35,810
site, the median elevation is approximately 5,450 feet. So we thought it would be

1193
01:41:35,810 --> 01:41:45,410
reasonable to look for properties within 100 feet of that. And so that would be 500,000,

1194
01:41:45,410 --> 01:41:47,530
350 feet in elevation.

1195
01:41:48,850 --> 01:41:52,050
And we were looking for parcels north of 144,000 new.

1196
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:54,650
So it's difficult to see on the aerial,

1197
01:41:55,250 --> 01:42:00,410
but if you take the aerial away, those yellow geometric shapes

1198
01:42:00,410 --> 01:42:03,210
are 16 parcels that met those criteria.

1199
01:42:04,230 --> 01:42:09,530
The red, squiggly line is contour line 5350.

1200
01:42:10,590 --> 01:42:12,610
And you can kind of see that some of those parcels

1201
01:42:12,610 --> 01:42:14,570
just touch that contour line, or most

1202
01:42:14,570 --> 01:42:20,790
them sit outside of it and we can talk about those later. So the center of that

1203
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:27,730
oblong area is the area that is above 53-50. Next slide please.

1204
01:42:31,410 --> 01:42:31,830
So after we

1205
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:36,610
identified the 16 parcels we started reviewing everything in more detail. Four

1206
01:42:36,610 --> 01:42:42,690
of the parcels are large, large, large residential lots with homes on them. And we

1207
01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:46,770
felt like it was not the intent of the alternative side analysis to displace

1208
01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:52,810
any residents. So the parcels of an R in them, or those residential lots, and we

1209
01:42:52,810 --> 01:42:56,270
recommend that those not be considered as alternative sites.

1210
01:42:58,090 --> 01:43:03,190
There are two developed parks. They have the green P in them. One is the wild grass park,

1211
01:43:03,230 --> 01:43:08,830
just east of Sheridan, and the one to the north is Anthem Community Park. West

1212
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:15,430
half of Anthem Community Park is actually below 53-50. The east half is above. That's the area

1213
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:16,730
that has been under construction.

1214
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:19,230
There is vacant land there today,

1215
01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:21,930
but the site is planned fully planned.

1216
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:26,110
And so for park uses, so we recommended

1217
01:43:26,110 --> 01:43:29,890
that these two sites be removed from the alternatives

1218
01:43:29,890 --> 01:43:30,650
analysis.

1219
01:43:32,770 --> 01:43:35,310
Next, the very large parcel that says RES

1220
01:43:35,310 --> 01:43:37,750
is the future site of the Broomfield Reservoir.

1221
01:43:38,050 --> 01:43:40,210
Most of it is below 53-50 feet,

1222
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:43,190
but there is some area near shared in that as above it.

1223
01:43:45,710 --> 01:43:50,970
There was a complete design for the reservoir in 2009, but that will need to be redone and updated.

1224
01:43:52,030 --> 01:43:55,630
We don't know exactly the limits of grading. We don't know where the pipeline will go.

1225
01:43:55,970 --> 01:44:00,730
And we felt it was most prudence to leave this site alone for that future reservoir.

1226
01:44:01,470 --> 01:44:05,330
So we recommended that the reservoir site be excluded from the alternatives.

1227
01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:09,510
And then the Wildgrass Open Space Ritz is OS.

1228
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:19,050
It's not, it doesn't really meet the criteria just touches the 53-50 line at the border so like 98% of it is below that line.

1229
01:44:20,250 --> 01:44:28,950
So those parcels that those are eight that I just discussed so staff recommended that we take those off the list. Next slide please.

1230
01:44:29,850 --> 01:44:30,470
Okay,

1231
01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:36,470
so zooming in to the south, so we have three parcels here.

1232
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:46,450
We have Holy Family High School, and there are some undeveloped areas on the Holy family property that meet the criteria.

1233
01:44:47,650 --> 01:44:51,850
But we are aware that Holy Family has expansion plans into those areas.

1234
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:59,370
They have submitted proposals in the past, so we felt like it wasn't really a reasonable.

1235
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:11,720
Sight to analyze and depths. Next, in the middle there is room field on property with the glass of reservoir and the water treatment plant.

1236
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:21,060
The vacant area in between has quite a bit of piping, so in reality the site is completely utilized. There's not spare area for tanks.

1237
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:24,960
And then further to the east is the hoops property.

1238
01:45:26,180 --> 01:45:30,060
The south half is below the 53-50 line, but the north half is above it.

1239
01:45:30,740 --> 01:45:32,860
Brunefield owns it. There's not future plans.

1240
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,280
So this became one of the sites we recommended for an alternative analysis.

1241
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:39,960
Next slide.

1242
01:45:43,290 --> 01:45:46,970
Okay, going to the north across Sheridan from the reservoir properties.

1243
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:48,270
Brunefield opens lands.

1244
01:45:48,850 --> 01:45:52,630
This property has been set aside also for reservoir construction.

1245
01:45:52,630 --> 01:45:57,010
It was planned to help with the Earthwork operations of the reservoir.

1246
01:45:57,670 --> 01:46:05,510
In fact, a bridge or underpass was installed undershared in about 2006-2007 to facilitate those

1247
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:06,550
Earthwork operations.

1248
01:46:09,290 --> 01:46:13,390
So we felt like the south part of that parcel needed to be preserved for reservoir construction,

1249
01:46:14,150 --> 01:46:18,830
but there was area to the north that could be evaluated for tank sites.

1250
01:46:18,830 --> 01:46:21,650
So we recommended that this site stay on.

1251
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,240
And then the next property to the east,

1252
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:32,280
excuse me, is Anthem 24, the track east, the gray square.

1253
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,040
If you look over onto the aerial image,

1254
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:35,920
you'll see the red line.

1255
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,400
Those are oil and gas lines.

1256
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,240
So we have to stay away from those.

1257
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,160
But there are two areas we thought we could consider

1258
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:43,660
as the alternate tank sites.

1259
01:46:44,660 --> 01:46:46,500
One southeast of the gas line.

1260
01:46:46,500 --> 01:46:54,120
And then when north between the west of the gas lane between the homes and the gas lane,

1261
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,200
so those sites were added.

1262
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,420
And then lastly, there are two parcels owned by McWinney that met the criteria.

1263
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,020
The one on the east we call the boot parcel looks like a boot with a really long toe.

1264
01:47:06,820 --> 01:47:09,860
Most of that parcel is below the 53-50 line.

1265
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:16,740
And then the other parcel is long and skinny and overlays on top of it.

1266
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:21,660
Combined, that was sufficient area. So we looked at it a little further.

1267
01:47:22,260 --> 01:47:26,900
Unfortunately, those oil and gas lines shown in the aerial bisect, those properties.

1268
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:31,460
And it doesn't leave a large enough remnant parcel for the tank site.

1269
01:47:33,740 --> 01:47:40,540
Okay, so we took these recommendations to the city manager to check for concurrence.

1270
01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:46,320
if they agreed with our logic, and we got their agreement next slide.

1271
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:53,840
So, this is what we have, this is what we gave to our consultants to really evaluate these

1272
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:54,440
sites.

1273
01:47:55,700 --> 01:48:03,760
So, say one would be the broomfield open lands parcel, say two and three are in anthem 24, and

1274
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:08,680
then site fours, poops property, and then we'll just say the original site for the current

1275
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:16,640
site plan. So our consultant evaluated these sites for proximity to existing utilities,

1276
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:24,020
proximity to existing residential neighborhoods, site-grading elevation and constructability,

1277
01:48:25,480 --> 01:48:30,980
portable water system hydraulics, impact to project costs and operating costs,

1278
01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:34,300
and project schedule impacts. Next slide.

1279
01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:38,300
So this is a summary table,

1280
01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:42,620
looking at those categories and criteria for each site.

1281
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,580
So proximity to existing utilities is actually looking

1282
01:48:46,580 --> 01:48:50,420
at the likelihood of having utility conflicts

1283
01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:55,100
that we would have to deal with or possibly relocate utilities.

1284
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,840
Site one has the most utilities to contend with.

1285
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,720
And so that ranked the lowest, the original site

1286
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,560
and site three or relatively clear of utility conflicts.

1287
01:49:08,860 --> 01:49:12,700
So those ranked the highest and then sites two and site four,

1288
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:13,860
somewhere in between

1289
01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:18,320
proximity to existing neighborhoods.

1290
01:49:18,620 --> 01:49:20,080
This is exactly what it sounds like.

1291
01:49:20,740 --> 01:49:24,040
All of these sites are generally near neighborhoods.

1292
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,540
We don't have a site that's out in the middle of nowhere.

1293
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:31,220
So we don't have any, none of the sites received four stars.

1294
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:42,680
But sites 1, 3, and 4 are slightly further from neighborhoods than the original site or site 2, so those scored higher.

1295
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:46,720
Side grading, elevation, and constructability.

1296
01:49:48,980 --> 01:49:54,440
So sites that do not have a hill require more excavation to partially bury the tanks.

1297
01:49:55,020 --> 01:50:00,420
So this analysis looked at the same conditions as the original site and applied those to the different sites.

1298
01:50:00,420 --> 01:50:03,520
So we assume they would be partially buried in all sites.

1299
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:12,180
So sites that don't have a hill require more excavation, which is more costly and harder to construct.

1300
01:50:12,660 --> 01:50:15,620
Also a hill can provide natural screening of the structures.

1301
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:25,680
And sometimes the ability to set the tank lower, the pump station lower than the tanks, which is in our current proposal, which is advantageous.

1302
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:38,900
So, the current site scored diast for constructability and elevation, site 3, which is to the south and east, also an anthem 24, is ranked second, because it's also on a hill.

1303
01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:44,620
It is 56 feet lower, so that's why it didn't score as high as the current site.

1304
01:50:47,740 --> 01:50:56,660
Site 2 is on a hill, but it's kind of sandwiched between a pretty significant ravine and the gas lines, so this makes it difficult to construct.

1305
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,680
It's also 90 feet lower in elevation.

1306
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,540
And Site 1 is quite a bit lower.

1307
01:51:02,740 --> 01:51:11,400
It's the lowest spot, 93 feet lower than the existing site, and would require excavation of the pump station about 17 feet below grade.

1308
01:51:12,900 --> 01:51:28,380
And then site 4 is actually flatter and would require the most earthwork to partially bury the tanks and to maintain the elevation difference between the tanks and the pump station and the site is 69 feet lower than the original site.

1309
01:51:31,540 --> 01:51:44,260
The next criteria looks at potable water system hydraulics, specifically pump sizing and horsepower requirements, as well as the ability to isolate the tank from the water treatment plant and the main distribution line from the water treatment plant.

1310
01:51:44,260 --> 01:51:50,280
plant. If something were to disrupt the 24-inch line leaving the plant, it could impact

1311
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:57,180
the ability to deliver water to the northern portion of a broomfield. So the locations

1312
01:51:57,180 --> 01:52:03,640
east of Lowell, including the original site in sites 2 and 3, are ranked higher than sites

1313
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:10,240
1 and 4 because they are more isolated off the water treatment plant. Location 4 is ranked

1314
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,520
lowest due to its proximity due to the water treatment plant.

1315
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:19,500
And the original site is ranked the highest because of its elevation it's going to have

1316
01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:23,980
smaller pumping requirements because gravity is doing more of the work.

1317
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,000
In fact, to project capital costs and operating costs is next.

1318
01:52:29,500 --> 01:52:35,360
The capital costs differences are largely due to earthwork and excavation and operating

1319
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,740
costs relate to the ongoing pumping costs.

1320
01:52:37,740 --> 01:52:43,780
The original site has the lowest pumping cost and the lowest earthwork compared to the others.

1321
01:52:44,740 --> 01:52:48,860
Followed by sites 3 and 4 and then sites 1 and 2.

1322
01:52:49,860 --> 01:52:51,540
And then project schedule impacts.

1323
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:58,620
So changing sites would impact the schedule because it would necessitate, excuse me, a redesign.

1324
01:52:59,420 --> 01:53:04,300
So, in this table, the original site has a few

1325
01:53:04,300 --> 01:53:09,400
scheduled impacts and all other four sites would hit the schedule.

1326
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,380
We should acknowledge though that sites two and three are in

1327
01:53:14,380 --> 01:53:18,140
room-filled open space and if they were moved into open space

1328
01:53:18,140 --> 01:53:24,900
that they would exceed the one acre and so the change in use process would be

1329
01:53:24,900 --> 01:53:25,520
required.

1330
01:53:27,140 --> 01:53:32,080
My understanding of it is that Council could approve the change in use, and then there

1331
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:35,040
would be a 90-day waiting period following that resolution.

1332
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:40,840
If there was a petition against the change in use, it would then go to the ballot.

1333
01:53:41,620 --> 01:53:47,880
So those two sites have theoretically more scheduled risk than the other sites.

1334
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:55,760
And, Mayor, before Miss Allen continues, we appreciate Council's patience as we know

1335
01:53:55,760 --> 01:54:00,160
that you all have already seen all of this and directed to the current site.

1336
01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:07,140
But, for the public, we thought it would be prudent to ensure that there was at least

1337
01:54:07,140 --> 01:54:13,180
a summary of the additional site analysis on what I had to appreciate going over the alternative

1338
01:54:13,180 --> 01:54:20,180
of sight analysis because it was mentioned in the Lerc recordings that that was not thoroughly

1339
01:54:20,180 --> 01:54:26,540
vetted, or we didn't thoroughly explore these alternatives. So I'm glad that we are reviewing

1340
01:54:26,540 --> 01:54:34,960
that for folks who didn't see it. Sure. Yeah. And let me clarify. The reason that this presentation

1341
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:39,380
was not provided to Lerc was because Council had already directed to this site.

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01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:45,940
So in summary

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01:54:45,940 --> 01:54:51,480
the alternatives analysis over all the original site ranked highest in every category except

1344
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:59,240
proximity to existing neighborhoods. And as manager Hoffman just stated council directed us to

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01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,680
proceed with the site following the January study session.

1346
01:55:04,710 --> 01:55:10,310
Okay, next slide. So we proceeded to

1347
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:16,490
developed this site plan. As Anna noted, the project includes two three million

1348
01:55:16,490 --> 01:55:20,370
gallon puddle tanks and one four million gallon reuse water tanked within

1349
01:55:20,370 --> 01:55:26,130
tract E. The construction of the pump station to the southwest off the current

1350
01:55:26,130 --> 01:55:34,110
parking lot and trailhead would be in tract B and taking up a point eight five

1351
01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:38,970
acres. The proposal includes landscape screening around the pump station in

1352
01:55:38,970 --> 01:55:44,330
landscape enhancements off of King Court and Irving Court where there is existing irrigation.

1353
01:55:45,630 --> 01:55:49,350
There will be additional fill or burning for the reconstructed overlook.

1354
01:55:51,170 --> 01:55:55,890
And as Ms. Burton said, he mentioned, we are not proposing to extend irrigation and plant

1355
01:55:55,890 --> 01:55:57,570
trees around the tanks themselves.

1356
01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:02,230
We have steep slopes in some areas that make this very challenging.

1357
01:56:03,190 --> 01:56:06,170
It's not typical application in open space.

1358
01:56:06,170 --> 01:56:10,930
And we don't recommend introducing irrigation water around the tanks.

1359
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:13,680
Next slide, please.

1360
01:56:18,340 --> 01:56:25,140
Okay, so this slide shows the access to the tanks from Irving Court.

1361
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:32,320
As Merck Miss Burton said, he mentioned, this would be concrete to allow the inspector

1362
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,840
to drive their truck to the tank site.

1363
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:41,520
It's planned as, as is normal, it would be one pickup track per day.

1364
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:49,840
This is not an unusual situation, from field as many utility stations in open space, including the

1365
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:58,060
Resue Heights lift station, the Locomore lift station, the Willah Rental lift station, the Outlook lift station,

1366
01:56:58,060 --> 01:57:01,620
This is, you know, a pond, aeration station, and so on.

1367
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:07,940
The photo below shows the Outlook live station

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01:57:07,940 --> 01:57:10,820
and the access location off of birthed trail.

1369
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,840
So, in this location as well, one pickup truck

1370
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:18,740
enters between those houses on the path.

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01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:21,780
Over the short distance on the lake link trail

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01:57:21,780 --> 01:57:22,980
to the Outlook station.

1373
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:24,960
This is a similar scenario.

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01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:29,460
Next slide, please.

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01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:30,060
The

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01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:37,090
pump station will also be inspected once per day with a passenger pickup.

1377
01:57:38,450 --> 01:57:42,630
They will enter through the existing parking lot off of King Court.

1378
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:55,960
As an expert in that he mentioned, the land use review commission thought a separate entrance off of Lowell should be provided for that one pickup truck.

1379
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:01,380
It's obviously a very low traffic volume and was not recommended by traffic engineering.

1380
01:58:02,860 --> 01:58:04,180
Next slide please.

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01:58:08,570 --> 01:58:10,970
This just goes over the open space charter requirement.

1382
01:58:11,770 --> 01:58:16,870
But I think we went over that in detail with the payment to the open space fund.

1383
01:58:17,290 --> 01:58:17,830
Next slide please.

1384
01:58:20,490 --> 01:58:22,970
This is elevations of the proposed pump station.

1385
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:29,410
The proposed architecture matches other the Bernfield municipal building suite of materials,

1386
01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:35,630
including the egg plant exposed block with the beige accent striping.

1387
01:58:35,630 --> 01:58:39,390
and the brown or bronze standing seam middle roof.

1388
01:58:41,500 --> 01:58:42,240
Next slide.

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01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:49,400
The slide shows the tank elevations.

1390
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:53,220
They are partially buried tanks, and they feature flat roofs.

1391
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,080
And we'll be painted in neutral color,

1392
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,880
consisting with the natural surroundings.

1393
01:59:00,420 --> 01:59:02,940
The potable tanks will have four and a half feet

1394
01:59:02,940 --> 01:59:06,520
to 11 feet above ground, depending where you are on the slope.

1395
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:13,620
And that goes to the top of the rail, actually, that elevation.

1396
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:21,400
The reuse tank varies from 5.75 feet to 10.5 feet above ground.

1397
01:59:22,660 --> 01:59:25,460
25 to 30 feet of the tank is buried below grade.

1398
01:59:25,740 --> 01:59:29,500
We'll be buried below grade. Next slide, please.

1399
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,180
All right, so these are perspectives.

1400
01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:34,920
And let me try to get you oriented.

1401
01:59:35,780 --> 01:59:40,220
So the first full row is a perspective

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01:59:40,220 --> 01:59:44,300
from a little boulevard looking to the northeast.

1403
01:59:46,060 --> 01:59:49,180
On the left is the view with immature vegetation.

1404
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,560
The middle graphic shows mature vegetation.

1405
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:54,260
So you can see the trees got bigger.

1406
01:59:55,420 --> 01:59:57,980
And the photo on the right shows the pump station at night

1407
01:59:57,980 --> 01:59:59,960
with the motion detection lighting trip.

1408
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:11,260
A mature vegetation on the left, mature vegetation, and then the pump station with the motion detection activated.

1409
02:00:12,380 --> 02:00:19,000
The picture in the upper right corner is in a nighttime emergency situation with all weights activated.

1410
02:00:21,190 --> 02:00:21,690
Next slide.

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02:00:24,350 --> 02:00:28,770
Okay, this slide has perspectives from King Court.

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02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:35,090
So the top row is, as you approach the turn-off into the parking lot.

1413
02:00:36,350 --> 02:00:39,830
So you can see the tanks up on the right.

1414
02:00:40,510 --> 02:00:44,490
The first image on the left is with immature vegetation.

1415
02:00:44,830 --> 02:00:48,410
The middle picture is with mature vegetation.

1416
02:00:48,730 --> 02:00:51,150
And then the black picture is at night.

1417
02:00:52,110 --> 02:01:00,910
The middle row is further east, approximately where the car is parked in the top row.

1418
02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:12,550
You can see on the left is the view with immature vegetation and mature vegetation and then at night.

1419
02:01:12,550 --> 02:01:23,420
And then the last row is from Irving Court, so you are looking southwest on the left is

1420
02:01:23,420 --> 02:01:27,720
immature vegetation and then mature vegetation and then at night.

1421
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:28,600
Next slide.

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02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:39,340
I don't know if you can see the numbers, but the top row represents views 1, 2, and 3.

1423
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:45,700
These are essentially along the backyards, along west 154th Avenue.

1424
02:01:46,580 --> 02:01:56,740
So the first graphic on the left is the most eastern viewpoint, so it's looking into the existing retaining walls as you can't see the tanks from there.

1425
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:05,080
Then moving west about midway down 154th Avenue, again you're looking into the retaining walls, you can't see the tanks.

1426
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:17,760
And then moving to the west side of 154 Avenue, the retaining walls pull away, they move south from there, so they're further in the distance, and you can start to see that tank.

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02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:19,720
One of the potable tanks in that view.

1428
02:02:22,420 --> 02:02:25,380
The bottom, a three-photers show the views from the overlook.

1429
02:02:26,620 --> 02:02:32,260
So bottom left is looking south west, so you can see one of the tanks in the view, because they are to the south.

1430
02:02:32,260 --> 02:02:37,320
The middle one is looking to do west, the tanks are not obstructing the western view,

1431
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:42,660
and the one on the red is to the northwest, and the tanks are not in that view.

1432
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:44,360
Next slide.

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02:02:47,650 --> 02:02:49,450
This slide just sort of zooms in.

1434
02:02:49,490 --> 02:02:56,930
It shows the existing parking lot in the aerial photo, and then the proposed changes on the left.

1435
02:02:57,490 --> 02:03:02,070
Currently, the sidewalk and trail are on the east side of the parking lot.

1436
02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:06,510
It will be relocated to the west side, so the trail can wrap around the future pump station.

1437
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:12,850
And also, OSTAC requested a trail connection to Lowell Boulevard.

1438
02:03:13,790 --> 02:03:16,650
That's the straight across east, west, trail connection.

1439
02:03:18,230 --> 02:03:19,770
The generators are shown in the plan.

1440
02:03:20,130 --> 02:03:26,990
The photos below are similar generators, similar generator in the two different views.

1441
02:03:27,830 --> 02:03:30,130
I believe this generator is at the water treatment plan.

1442
02:03:33,620 --> 02:03:42,840
and next slide. Last slide. If approved, the proposed schedule would be for staff to

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02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:47,700
bring a construction agreement to Council later this fall.

1444
02:03:50,220 --> 02:03:51,800
If Council approves the

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02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:56,600
construction agreement, the contractor would begin procurment of long lead items, submit

1446
02:03:56,600 --> 02:04:02,460
requests for permits, and finish pre-construction activities. The contractor would move on

1447
02:04:02,460 --> 02:04:06,060
and early 2024 to begin extensive site work operations.

1448
02:04:08,300 --> 02:04:10,840
Construction access off of low will be created.

1449
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:14,080
The contractor will have trailers in the lay-down area.

1450
02:04:15,420 --> 02:04:19,680
During construction and for safety, the western half of the open space area will be closed.

1451
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:24,200
That includes the trailhead parking off of King Court.

1452
02:04:25,180 --> 02:04:28,100
Construction is expected to take 24 months to complete.

1453
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:34,360
testing and start-up would be in late 2025 to allow for the tanks to be operational for

1454
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:41,720
use in spring 2026. That concludes my presentation and we'll turn it over for questions.

1455
02:04:43,140 --> 02:04:48,600
Thank you very much, Ms. Allen and Ms. Burton Zetti seeing that it is 801. I think this

1456
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:54,400
would be a good time for us to take our 10 minute recess and come back at 811 to start public

1457
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,120
comment. So thank you. We'll see you at 811.

1458
02:15:07,790 --> 02:15:09,510
Welcome back, everyone.

1459
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:21,120
Welcome back. Would everyone please take their seats so we can proceed with public comment.

1460
02:15:27,630 --> 02:15:28,850
Thank you so much.

1461
02:15:29,170 --> 02:15:39,330
We're going to start the public comment period, which will be limited to 90 minutes, but we should be fine. We don't have full sign up for those here to make public comment tonight. Thank you.

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02:15:39,810 --> 02:15:47,250
We also want to share with the residents that council has reviewed the emails and correspondence submitted to the city and they have been added to the record.

1463
02:15:47,250 --> 02:15:52,270
If your comment repeats what a person said before, we request that you indicate your agreement

1464
02:15:52,270 --> 02:15:57,250
without repeating everything that person said prior, so help with time, and we appreciate

1465
02:15:57,250 --> 02:15:58,030
your cooperation.

1466
02:15:58,890 --> 02:16:03,270
We hear from, we'll hear from six in-person individuals and one phone collar until we hit

1467
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:06,010
the limits addressed, but we won't exceed those.

1468
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:09,710
Priority will be given to those who indicated their room-filled residents.

1469
02:16:11,310 --> 02:16:15,410
As we call your name, please come to the podium, state your name and neighborhood for the record,

1470
02:16:15,410 --> 02:16:19,670
or limit your comments to three minutes.

1471
02:16:19,810 --> 02:16:21,230
If you're joining by phone,

1472
02:16:21,590 --> 02:16:24,070
please press star three and state your first and last name

1473
02:16:24,070 --> 02:16:25,370
and neighborhood for the record.

1474
02:16:25,670 --> 02:16:26,910
There's two people in the queue.

1475
02:16:27,530 --> 02:16:28,490
So we will start.

1476
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:31,730
I'll go ahead and call the first five.

1477
02:16:31,970 --> 02:16:33,270
I'll call the first six.

1478
02:16:33,450 --> 02:16:35,010
First is Leonard Giuliano.

1479
02:16:35,710 --> 02:16:36,810
Then there's Amelia.

1480
02:16:37,930 --> 02:16:39,050
Rocksy Jewel.

1481
02:16:39,390 --> 02:16:40,250
Adam Go Betty.

1482
02:16:41,090 --> 02:16:46,030
Chelsea May and Christine Brasas-Brasas-Brasas-Kas.

1483
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:01,760
I've been the Wilcox neighborhood.

1484
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:08,600
I'm going to start with, I thought I would have had it, but other people in front of me, but

1485
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:14,400
hypocrisy is that's all I've ever heard from the Anthem Reserve neighborhood from the residents.

1486
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:19,240
For every emotionally issue, they will identify the very presence of their development,

1487
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:23,880
as had approximately 30 times the impact on the hill now they're trying to protect.

1488
02:17:23,880 --> 02:17:38,320
What they're saying is ignore the needs of the entire city and county, put under blinders and only look at less than five acres that will be visible by less than 25 houses that could coincidentally sit more than 18 feet above the ground.

1489
02:17:39,940 --> 02:17:45,940
I would like to speak factually now, within the last two weeks the public works departments for the city and county of Brunefield,

1490
02:17:45,940 --> 02:17:52,460
major hydrant water pressure over a five-day period along Lowell Boulevard. Approximately

1491
02:17:52,460 --> 02:17:57,380
30 feet lower than the existing hydrants in Anthem Reserve Development. The report revealed

1492
02:17:57,380 --> 02:18:04,280
the water pressure regularly dropped below 40 psi and interestingly enough, these pressure drops

1493
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:14,320
were not isolated after our irrigation usage. This occurred in the daytime hours too. Additionally,

1494
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:20,740
using rule-of-thumb calculations, the pressure at Anthem Reserve would most probably be under 30 PSI,

1495
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:25,860
and it's no wonder why several of the homes already have installed booster water pumps in their houses.

1496
02:18:28,060 --> 02:18:32,560
I'm sure that they're hoping that their insurance companies don't find out about this because that's

1497
02:18:32,560 --> 02:18:44,300
a significant drop in water pressure, and there's no fire flows. The need for the water tanks has been

1498
02:18:44,300 --> 02:18:51,060
just speakers, changes in the proposed plan address issues that were recently identified

1499
02:18:51,060 --> 02:18:54,140
by the tremendous growth to the north and the martial fire incident.

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02:18:55,360 --> 02:19:01,500
Now I understand that failure to maintain a water system is one of the issues that governmental

1501
02:19:01,500 --> 02:19:07,680
immunity can be waived, which means not proceeding with this project in the optimal position

1502
02:19:08,220 --> 02:19:13,340
with the elevation and stuff could open the city and county to significant financial judgments.

1503
02:19:13,340 --> 02:19:18,580
To reiterate, you have a responsibility to provide the necessary fire flows to the entire

1504
02:19:18,580 --> 02:19:23,280
city and county, including the most vulnerable neighborhood, Anthem Reserve.

1505
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:25,900
I'm saying, you have to protect them too.

1506
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:27,760
This is in their best interest.

1507
02:19:29,520 --> 02:19:34,380
I open this with the word hypocrisy and would like to close with the same subject.

1508
02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:39,540
Anthem Reserve is significantly vulnerable to catastrophic fire with their high-density

1509
02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:44,540
track homes with combustible sightings at the top of a hill surrounded by plenty of

1510
02:19:44,540 --> 02:19:50,900
vegetation and wood fences. If such an unfortunate band were to occur, I can assure you

1511
02:19:50,900 --> 02:19:56,180
there'll be some of the residents filing suit against city and county. If the water

1512
02:19:56,180 --> 02:20:00,380
supply is not, ultimately, provided. Thank you.

1513
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:15,980
Hello again, my name is Amelia. I am a resident of Burmfield City in County. I'm here to

1514
02:20:15,980 --> 02:20:20,600
speak to you about the serious concerns that I, as well as many other of the residents with

1515
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:25,360
in room field, have about the proposed development of the water tanks, and the large pump

1516
02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:26,460
house as well as generators.

1517
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:32,440
The first concern is about the threats that the water tanks will pose to the neighborhoods

1518
02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:38,120
as far as where they are located, being on top of the hill, they are overlooking a community

1519
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:43,680
with several homes, and those homes have been in the area ranging from two to even decades

1520
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:49,760
long. In the event of a rupture, what is the plan for how that water is going to be contained

1521
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,980
or what the path of least resistance is, which is how water goes. Where is it going to go

1522
02:20:54,980 --> 02:21:01,000
other than into the backyards and the homes of these residents? Another concern is about the restricted

1523
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:06,440
access to the neighborhoods in the area and how this building process is going to cause significant

1524
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:11,800
danger to the residents. Because the emergency services vehicles will be restricted from access

1525
02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:13,320
to some of the residential properties.

1526
02:21:14,260 --> 02:21:16,500
This concern is very near and dear to my heart

1527
02:21:16,500 --> 02:21:19,160
because my own father died from a severe stroke

1528
02:21:19,160 --> 02:21:21,140
after emergency services vehicles

1529
02:21:21,140 --> 02:21:22,960
could not reach him in time.

1530
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:27,060
Another concern is about the danger and unnecessary threats

1531
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:28,840
that are going to take place to the wildlife

1532
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:31,120
and their natural habitat in this area.

1533
02:21:31,820 --> 02:21:33,660
So water tanks are being built on a site

1534
02:21:33,660 --> 02:21:35,960
that has already become home to wildlife,

1535
02:21:36,480 --> 02:21:37,720
including their nesting grounds.

1536
02:21:38,540 --> 02:21:40,220
And while the metal larke may not be listed

1537
02:21:40,220 --> 02:21:45,440
on some of the protection websites, it is protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act,

1538
02:21:45,620 --> 02:21:49,540
which means that even its nesting rounds are not supposed to be damaged, and those

1539
02:21:49,540 --> 02:21:50,500
are nesting rounds.

1540
02:21:51,340 --> 02:21:56,340
Another concern is about the irresponsible and excessive industrialization of this community

1541
02:21:56,340 --> 02:21:56,860
area.

1542
02:21:57,260 --> 02:22:02,080
The proposed water tanks are just one of several industrial projects that have been proposed

1543
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:06,820
for Northern Room Field, and it feels as though the city is sacrificing the quality of

1544
02:22:06,820 --> 02:22:11,000
for the residents of this city and exchange for the industrialization.

1545
02:22:11,940 --> 02:22:18,820
Another concern is about the waivers that residents in the community were being forced to sign,

1546
02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:20,680
labeled Exhibit S.

1547
02:22:21,180 --> 02:22:24,600
Home buyers were being forced to sign these exhibits under Dores,

1548
02:22:24,880 --> 02:22:28,080
with threats of not being allowed to close on their home.

1549
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:34,680
These waivers essentially absolve the city of any and all liability in the event of an accident or disaster.

1550
02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:45,520
This is not only unethical, it is unfair to force people to sign these waivers, and it is unlawful to force someone into signing a contract while they are under to rest.

1551
02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:58,300
Another concern, not only about the unethical and illegal verbiage of the waivers, that would allow the city and county to essentially plow down a neighborhood child without any liability of responsibility being held to the city and county.

1552
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:01,640
This is unacceptable, and it is inhumane.

1553
02:23:02,140 --> 02:23:03,060
Thank you for your time.

1554
02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:04,920
Thank you.

1555
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:18,360
We're not going to have clapping because it's just going to add time. So I appreciate your enthusiasm, I do, but it just adds time to the meeting. Thank you.

1556
02:23:19,600 --> 02:23:21,160
Rock CGLL, Lakcomor.

1557
02:23:22,620 --> 02:23:29,940
I'm actually for this project. I'm from the plains. You need the tanks. You need them as high as you can get them.

1558
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:31,420
You run out of water.

1559
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:36,200
Nobody's going to be living in those homes when you rent out of water.

1560
02:23:37,180 --> 02:23:42,120
So, when you're the other, you're going to have to get something.

1561
02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:47,040
So, if you decide on not doing these tanks, that's up to you guys.

1562
02:23:48,160 --> 02:23:53,800
But you need the tanks for the people to have water for multiple reasons.

1563
02:23:54,520 --> 02:23:59,340
Not just for the fire danger, but because someday you might just need that water for drinking.

1564
02:23:59,340 --> 02:24:04,320
But if you don't have the water, you're not going to be home because they are going to

1565
02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:05,560
DM your home.

1566
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:06,400
Thank you.

1567
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:08,020
Thank you.

1568
02:24:13,470 --> 02:24:15,970
Adam Govettie, Ward 5, McKay Landing.

1569
02:24:18,770 --> 02:24:21,090
So optimized is not optimal.

1570
02:24:22,090 --> 02:24:26,910
Now I've actually spent quite a bit of time up there on what I think some of us lovingly

1571
02:24:26,910 --> 02:24:31,190
call Mount Brune Field and it's something special.

1572
02:24:32,810 --> 02:24:36,450
So the video we saw earlier didn't quite capture it.

1573
02:24:37,630 --> 02:24:40,190
That's not a criticism, I've done some filming up there as well,

1574
02:24:40,510 --> 02:24:41,890
and I certainly couldn't capture it either.

1575
02:24:42,530 --> 02:24:43,810
So we need to think about these things.

1576
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:45,030
It's something pretty special.

1577
02:24:45,710 --> 02:24:48,350
It's obviously something that we all feel strongly about.

1578
02:24:48,450 --> 02:24:50,910
Some great see so many of my neighbors here.

1579
02:24:51,090 --> 02:24:53,690
Particularly good because I know it's harder to connect on next door these days.

1580
02:24:55,770 --> 02:24:58,210
So a bad decision was made back in January.

1581
02:24:58,450 --> 02:24:59,250
And I get it.

1582
02:24:59,250 --> 02:25:04,690
It's a dull, boring topic to spend council and staff time trying to look more into the alternatives.

1583
02:25:05,450 --> 02:25:08,290
The amazing staff did so much work even for what we saw here.

1584
02:25:08,490 --> 02:25:11,110
I wish we were better about sharing this information more broadly.

1585
02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:13,250
But the council has a chance.

1586
02:25:13,490 --> 02:25:18,550
You know, the 100% against from the Lerk Review, that's strong feedback.

1587
02:25:18,890 --> 02:25:21,270
We were hearing from our neighbors, that's strong feedback.

1588
02:25:21,730 --> 02:25:24,930
The work that was already done, even though more work wasn't done,

1589
02:25:25,070 --> 02:25:27,890
because staff was directed not to dig into it further.

1590
02:25:27,890 --> 02:25:33,570
You know, back in January there was more exciting topics like bringing in hot button national

1591
02:25:33,570 --> 02:25:40,850
and state issues to our little town, but this is the boring dull stuff that we need to focus on.

1592
02:25:42,110 --> 02:25:48,010
And, you know, it's something that's been neglected for years, you know, 20, 2018, to 2022.

1593
02:25:48,410 --> 02:25:53,830
The operating budget goes up 53% but public works only goes up 1% I know it's not as much fun

1594
02:25:53,830 --> 02:25:58,730
is talking about other uses of water, like a four and a half acre lake.

1595
02:25:59,050 --> 02:26:00,750
That's going to take 11 million gallons.

1596
02:26:01,070 --> 02:26:04,850
I think twice as much, more than twice as much is what these towers were

1597
02:26:04,850 --> 02:26:07,130
told of potable water.

1598
02:26:07,810 --> 02:26:09,430
But these are the things need to be prioritized.

1599
02:26:09,490 --> 02:26:12,570
These are the things we need to spend more time on.

1600
02:26:13,450 --> 02:26:18,030
So I'll just strongly ask that we deny this application and then look

1601
02:26:18,030 --> 02:26:21,410
into other more appropriate ways to shore up the water system.

1602
02:26:21,410 --> 02:26:29,290
And I'll just make a more general ask that we prioritize these kinds of discussions boring as they are, because that's what our city needs the most.

1603
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:30,470
Thank you.

1604
02:26:30,590 --> 02:26:31,430
Thank you.

1605
02:26:34,370 --> 02:26:34,850
Thank you.

1606
02:26:35,310 --> 02:26:37,570
Council and staff, Bloomfield Day, it was great.

1607
02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:40,290
I'm Christine Brazanskis from Anthem.

1608
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:47,810
And my ask is, you've all read my email that I've been emailing I think for the past year now.

1609
02:26:47,810 --> 02:26:58,710
But I just want to reiterate that my concern is this hilltop is such a special place, and there are alternatives to the partially buried tanks.

1610
02:26:59,250 --> 02:27:04,290
There are. We can bury them. We're looking at a price tag right now around 80 million.

1611
02:27:05,890 --> 02:27:15,530
There is other procurement methods that we could use to probably get that price tag down and achieve the goal of burying the tanks.

1612
02:27:15,530 --> 02:27:21,210
I mean, a lot of people aren't really thrilled with the location, but if we're going to be

1613
02:27:21,210 --> 02:27:28,950
stuck with the location, let's find a win-win solution and bury these things. Denver does

1614
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:38,670
it all the time. It's standard practice and a design build agreement. You bring another contractor,

1615
02:27:38,670 --> 02:27:44,390
Seymour, I am still shocked that we have a contractor on board that is, in my opinion,

1616
02:27:44,590 --> 02:27:50,550
not been thoroughly bedded and has not been able to provide a constructability to you and

1617
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:57,130
and value engineering that could drastically change the outlook of this project and my

1618
02:27:57,130 --> 02:28:03,910
ask would be that you spend the time denied this now and send it back for further review.

1619
02:28:05,410 --> 02:28:05,850
Thank you.

1620
02:28:06,090 --> 02:28:07,170
Thank you very much.

1621
02:28:07,170 --> 02:28:08,370
Chelsea May?

1622
02:28:08,370 --> 02:28:08,530
Yeah.

1623
02:28:09,130 --> 02:28:09,170
Okay.

1624
02:28:09,170 --> 02:28:09,290
Okay.

1625
02:28:09,470 --> 02:28:10,130
We're going to have a quarter.

1626
02:28:14,030 --> 02:28:15,170
I'm Chelsea May.

1627
02:28:15,430 --> 02:28:16,070
Bromfield resident.

1628
02:28:16,970 --> 02:28:17,970
Do you need to restart the clock?

1629
02:28:18,350 --> 02:28:18,690
Yes.

1630
02:28:19,290 --> 02:28:19,710
Thank you.

1631
02:28:20,030 --> 02:28:21,030
Thank you.

1632
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:22,330
We all love water.

1633
02:28:22,490 --> 02:28:26,950
I don't think anyone in here is denying the fact that we all love water, and we all agree

1634
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:28,490
that Bromfield needs water.

1635
02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:29,890
I think the question is where.

1636
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:38,070
And I'm not convinced that the alternative site study really looked at other sites that didn't

1637
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:46,690
I mean, take us to the direction of the answer that we wanted and I think we need to re-look at some sites and see if we can find it a win-win solution.

1638
02:28:48,090 --> 02:29:06,590
Per section 173820 or to 20 of the code and as stated in your proposal, the decision of the city council should be based on whether the applicant has demonstrated that the proposed amendment to the site development plan, which is the whole reason we're here because this was not intended to be used the way it's being used.

1639
02:29:06,590 --> 02:29:09,730
meets the following standards among others.

1640
02:29:10,130 --> 02:29:13,230
Standard one, the proposal should identify and mitigate

1641
02:29:13,230 --> 02:29:15,870
potential negative impacts on nearby properties

1642
02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:18,850
and maximize potential positive impacts

1643
02:29:18,850 --> 02:29:20,210
to nearby properties.

1644
02:29:21,150 --> 02:29:22,070
Clearly that's not the case.

1645
02:29:23,250 --> 02:29:25,350
One of the reasons this project was rejected

1646
02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:28,590
by the land use commission was the numerous potential

1647
02:29:28,590 --> 02:29:31,190
negative impacts that this would have on our community.

1648
02:29:32,050 --> 02:29:34,750
Lots of open space trails, 30 minutes a week

1649
02:29:34,750 --> 02:29:41,030
high-decipled sounds from testing an extreme large generator with 100 yards of a neighborhood

1650
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:45,490
filled with families and children, demolishing one of the most beautiful view tops in the

1651
02:29:45,490 --> 02:29:52,090
area, which can be seen from miles away, not just from 16 houses, literally building an

1652
02:29:52,090 --> 02:29:59,350
industrial tank project in the backyards of a residential neighborhood. And that's the reason

1653
02:29:59,350 --> 02:29:59,970
in that this project.

1654
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
Act was done the way it was. I know we're saying, you know, we only needed 400 by 400 feet track to bury this one tank, which is what the original plan was. And now things have changed. But what hasn't changed is the people. The people are still there. And when we're looking at alternative sites, I think we should look at sites where there's not people. And there's there's plenty of industrial areas around room field that we can look at. There's one, six youth in here. Here on next to the firehouse, there's the home equipment development that hasn't even been done yet. Why aren't we looking at taking

1655
02:30:29,980 --> 02:30:34,580
some of that land. We don't have to bury the tanks, but doing something that's not going to impact people.

1656
02:30:36,220 --> 02:30:43,120
The proposal, one of the standards was also that the proposal should include adequate facilities for pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists.

1657
02:30:43,460 --> 02:30:49,560
I think we've heard that this project is going to create a hindrance to pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists.

1658
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:55,180
The project will, as designed, will eliminate an entrance to the neighborhood during this long construction process.

1659
02:30:55,180 --> 02:31:04,000
It's going to decimate newly created trails and demolish and already established ecosystem created over decades and decades, which can't be easily replaced.

1660
02:31:04,820 --> 02:31:20,440
I have a lot more to say, but I guess in my 12 seconds left, I'll just say, you know, we're your constituents and we all love water and we want the same things that you do. We just wish that you would listen a little bit more to understand and set of response so we can find a solution together.

1661
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:45,800
So. Thank you. We're going to go to one of our residents on the phone and then we'll do that's Andreas Miller and then in person, we will have Dave Matthews, David Matthews, Mike Pierce, Andrew Costa, Ted Wallace and Erica doll. If you'll want to line up, but we're going to go to the phone right now and.

1662
02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:49,800
Andreas Miller, you live, you have three minutes.

1663
02:31:53,640 --> 02:31:57,340
I've heard a lot tonight from kind of like an adult perspective by thought.

1664
02:31:57,480 --> 02:32:02,000
You can call, you know, if this came from a team perspective. So my name is Andreas.

1665
02:32:02,700 --> 02:32:05,680
I'm your resident Ruth Alcarado, and I live in Andamers.

1666
02:32:06,140 --> 02:32:12,080
I am 14 years old, and I'm here to address the 10 projects like everyone else has been.

1667
02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:15,480
So our things, open sources are not possible and as most know,

1668
02:32:15,480 --> 02:32:20,620
There are important assets that contribute to our communities well-being, and identity, these

1669
02:32:20,620 --> 02:32:24,760
areas provide a gateway for residents, seeking refuge from the House of Buckeau State

1670
02:32:24,760 --> 02:32:27,460
of the Lights, and are important for living a healthy life.

1671
02:32:27,900 --> 02:32:33,340
They serve centuries for bikers, walkers, and wildlife like offering recreational opportunities

1672
02:32:33,340 --> 02:32:35,400
in promoting physical and mental well-being.

1673
02:32:36,660 --> 02:32:41,520
These faces are some sources of quality of life with gyration room fields, as well as others

1674
02:32:41,520 --> 02:32:42,540
outside of room fields.

1675
02:32:42,540 --> 02:32:47,020
Many of my friends will commonly use these shields for biking, socializing, and getting

1676
02:32:47,020 --> 02:32:47,820
lives in the city.

1677
02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:52,180
I also know many other teams use this space as well for socializing, biking, walking

1678
02:32:52,180 --> 02:32:52,500
and working.

1679
02:32:54,860 --> 02:32:59,220
I think it's important to highly, most teams might age R for extending this structure.

1680
02:32:59,500 --> 02:33:01,220
You know, our routine part of that is stuck.

1681
02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:04,960
And other utilities we daily have lots of room for improvement.

1682
02:33:05,100 --> 02:33:06,120
I think lots of degrees.

1683
02:33:06,740 --> 02:33:10,920
Although infrastructure is very important, it's one thing that tears something out that's

1684
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:16,040
and put something new, that's something we teens cheer for, and it's improved it for sure.

1685
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:19,660
But it's something completely different, it's already developed.

1686
02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:22,380
More specifically, it was in 40 years ago.

1687
02:33:23,740 --> 02:33:26,300
I kind of want to highlight the fact that the city is already invested

1688
02:33:26,300 --> 02:33:31,040
to financial resources and developing and maintaining and then help talk.

1689
02:33:31,060 --> 02:33:34,980
This investment is like, you guys have done a really good job.

1690
02:33:34,980 --> 02:33:38,840
You guys were on the good track of creating open spaces.

1691
02:33:42,500 --> 02:33:45,920
And a lot of like communities back down Colorado,

1692
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:47,640
there's less and less open space.

1693
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:50,860
But given the resources already been on Anthem Hilltop,

1694
02:33:51,220 --> 02:33:54,160
it raises questions about if that's really worth cutting it out

1695
02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:59,180
and dropping over $40 million on what our team's online.

1696
02:33:59,180 --> 02:34:00,780
That was literally just developed.

1697
02:34:01,620 --> 02:34:04,620
This was just something me and teens and family are very pressure

1698
02:34:04,620 --> 02:34:08,920
this is not a good move forward. While I acknowledge the importance of water

1699
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:13,960
infrastructure and clothing, fire, hydrant and water pressure being well, you can still

1700
02:34:13,960 --> 02:34:17,100
sell these products with the difference. I don't know why it keeps coming up during the

1701
02:34:17,100 --> 02:34:22,700
meeting where maybe fire hydrant pressure is lower, whatever, and we're being hit the

1702
02:34:22,700 --> 02:34:29,720
critical. We are for water. But you can sell these all of these problems. I'm putting

1703
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:34,500
somewhere else. Like there's, I think it was the site that ranked second on the list.

1704
02:34:34,940 --> 02:34:39,520
But you can easily, if you did that site instead, this would be so much better for people

1705
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:43,320
in wildlife. And it would still sell well, it's problems.

1706
02:34:44,440 --> 02:34:46,920
All right, Andreas. Can you answer two for that?

1707
02:34:47,180 --> 02:34:50,160
Can you wrap up your thoughts, please? Your time is expired.

1708
02:34:51,320 --> 02:34:52,840
But go ahead and make your final thoughts.

1709
02:34:56,730 --> 02:34:56,730
Sorry.

1710
02:34:56,930 --> 02:35:02,430
I request the ECD Council to evaluate and deny this proposal immediately. Thank you for your time.

1711
02:35:02,430 --> 02:35:10,540
Thank you very much. David Matthews. Good evening. As some of you know I serve on the charter review committee

1712
02:35:10,540 --> 02:35:14,360
I'm supposed to tell you I'm David Matthews, and I will then add them. So some of you know

1713
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:17,640
I serve on the charter review committee and over the last several months

1714
02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:22,300
I've personally come to learn about the time commitment that serving on council fixed.

1715
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:28,880
It's far more than I originally thought and I can't expect all of you to be fully educated on every single issue

1716
02:35:28,880 --> 02:35:36,620
And I know it's budget season and in our last charter view town hall, it was mentioned that the budget document was something around 1,000 pages.

1717
02:35:37,180 --> 02:35:42,840
In the document tonight with all the attachments for the Water Tank Project is over 200 pages long.

1718
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:55,660
And knowing what I know now, it would be impossible for me to expect the Council members to fully review this project and have an understanding of what CCOB is asking you to approve tonight and have a full understanding of the history of the project.

1719
02:35:55,660 --> 02:36:00,660
When Anthem filing 24 was approved, those members of City Council were very clear that if there

1720
02:36:00,660 --> 02:36:06,540
were to be any changes to the hilltop, the public would be involved in the public's opinion would be valued.

1721
02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:13,000
That Council also required a disclosure be made to all buyers that the water tank was part of the site plan.

1722
02:36:13,540 --> 02:36:21,620
I work in the real estate industry, so I was able to read and understand my title commitment, which had somewhere around 50 exceptions, including the PUD filing.

1723
02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:30,720
I knew there was a water tank coming, but upon further investigation, the city engineers said the tank would be buried, so I wasn't really concerned with it.

1724
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:37,560
There was never a mention of multiple tanks or a 9,000 square foot pump house that would be built three houses away from me.

1725
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:46,260
More importantly, there was no disclosure made by the builder or developer about this water tank, and the average home buyer had no idea this was even a plan for one tank.

1726
02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:50,320
and CCOB never followed up with home buyers to make sure they got proper disclosure.

1727
02:36:50,800 --> 02:37:00,340
Even though other disclosures are part of the permitting process, and most home buyers weren't notified if they had already closed after that until after that June 2022 meeting.

1728
02:37:01,180 --> 02:37:06,120
In my opinion, CCOB had plenty of opportunities to make sure home buyers were made aware of what they ignored this.

1729
02:37:06,580 --> 02:37:12,780
In one of the very first meeting minutes about the project, there's a line that says something along the lines of,

1730
02:37:12,780 --> 02:37:18,400
We will do this project, and we'll notify the public, but with an approach as an FYI approach,

1731
02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:23,180
and we won't release the list of public feedback. This doesn't match the spirit of what the

1732
02:37:23,180 --> 02:37:28,740
previous city council wanted to see happen with this hilltop. The attitude of an FYI approach

1733
02:37:28,740 --> 02:37:34,620
has been felt in every interaction between CCOB and the public regarding this project, starting with

1734
02:37:34,620 --> 02:37:40,260
the meeting in June of 2022. That meeting was filled with misinformation, such as telling residents

1735
02:37:40,260 --> 02:37:45,160
of the project would be fence with chaining fence and barbwire and that it wasn't in the budget

1736
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:50,420
to bury the tanks. There has been no real effort to take in feedback and you can read

1737
02:37:51,500 --> 02:37:57,100
CCBOB's responses on the voice and feel that overall tone that they have towards the residents

1738
02:37:57,100 --> 02:38:02,940
concerns. I understand the need for water and I simply request that you amend the plan to move

1739
02:38:02,940 --> 02:38:07,560
the tanks to a better location with less impact on the residents or bury the tanks as a city

1740
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:13,840
you said would happen. There are so many special places or there's not as many special places as this

1741
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:19,480
hill in our city so please don't be the ones to ruin that for us. Thank you. Thank you.

1742
02:38:20,380 --> 02:38:21,080
Mike Pierce?

1743
02:38:24,190 --> 02:38:28,310
Hi I'm Mike Pierce. I live in Anthem to thanks for the opportunity to speak tonight.

1744
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:34,170
You're aware that lurk voted unanimously in July 7 and nothing to recommend denying the project

1745
02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:39,370
in this location. The three reasons cited for that decision were the proposed that did not

1746
02:38:39,370 --> 02:38:43,810
identify and mitigate potential negative impacts on nearby properties. It did not identify

1747
02:38:43,810 --> 02:38:48,630
and maximize potential positive impacts on nearby properties. And the proposal did not provide

1748
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:53,630
for open area at a rate of not less than 40 percent of the developed bull site in a residential

1749
02:38:53,630 --> 02:38:58,770
areas. When coming to these three conclusions, the commissioners uttered a few quotes. The

1750
02:38:58,770 --> 02:39:03,210
fallen quotes that I think to a good job of explaining why this project is being proposed in

1751
02:39:03,210 --> 02:39:07,750
wrong location. Commissioner Mikkelson said, that doesn't sound like the best thought

1752
02:39:07,750 --> 02:39:12,170
out design. She continued, you guys feel like you've been misled. That's us because

1753
02:39:12,170 --> 02:39:16,150
developers weren't forthcoming. I know there's a responsibility of informing potential

1754
02:39:16,150 --> 02:39:23,150
buyers. And, quote, my note here is I agree a lot with David just said, if the responsibility

1755
02:39:23,150 --> 02:39:27,810
was on the developer to inform us all of what this product was going to be, what are

1756
02:39:27,810 --> 02:39:32,130
the teeth behind that? Like if they failed to do that, what's the repercussion I'm going

1757
02:39:32,130 --> 02:39:37,830
of one. Commissioner Willford said, I feel the pain in the room. I have the same pain.

1758
02:39:38,390 --> 02:39:42,370
I don't necessarily feel like all of the access and layout is as good as it could be for

1759
02:39:42,370 --> 02:39:47,010
the neighborhood adjacent to this development. Commissioner Goodenoff said, I know it's hard.

1760
02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:52,890
It's hard to listen to it. Maybe we could try harder. Commissioner Lynn had a number of quotes that

1761
02:39:52,890 --> 02:40:00,110
I wanted to cover here. He begins with, this is certainly, in my opinion, a poorly chosen site,

1762
02:40:00,110 --> 02:40:04,390
despite its functionality because of the negative impact of the neighborhood and to the general

1763
02:40:04,390 --> 02:40:09,890
public. There's no place to replicate this view. I still don't have the confidence that

1764
02:40:09,890 --> 02:40:14,350
we have full clarity on how deeply these alternate sites have been explored. I'd like to

1765
02:40:14,350 --> 02:40:18,590
see more robust communication in particular with the residents who have come tonight to

1766
02:40:18,590 --> 02:40:24,010
delineate the full disclosure of those feasibility studies rather than just here's a high

1767
02:40:24,010 --> 02:40:29,130
hill that should work best for all of this. There are other high points in the area. They might not

1768
02:40:29,130 --> 02:40:33,550
be as high, but where's the dollar value in choosing a lower site with a bigger pump station

1769
02:40:33,550 --> 02:40:35,630
that has less of an impact to a residence?

1770
02:40:36,490 --> 02:40:40,910
He goes on to say, so we buy a bigger pump and put the tanks near the industrial buildings

1771
02:40:40,910 --> 02:40:42,350
that are going up over there.

1772
02:40:42,590 --> 02:40:47,310
I realize it's not optimal, however, the negative impact to 100 different families and robbing

1773
02:40:47,310 --> 02:40:52,210
one of the highest points in our town as a vista, as an attraction to put in the infrastructure

1774
02:40:52,210 --> 02:40:57,550
rather than spending more on a pump and making a more efficient installation, hey, you don't

1775
02:40:57,550 --> 02:41:02,070
to bury the tanks, it would be cheaper for the tanks to move it over towards 160th.

1776
02:41:02,510 --> 02:41:07,170
His last quote was, lower elevation, bigger pump house, let's take that type of consideration.

1777
02:41:08,250 --> 02:41:10,090
My own thoughts, that's the end of that quote.

1778
02:41:10,230 --> 02:41:14,250
My own thoughts in my last few seconds here, room field has grown successfully up through

1779
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:17,490
up through now without the need to place water tanks on this particular hill.

1780
02:41:17,790 --> 02:41:21,210
I'm not confident enough research has been done to find an alternate location that will

1781
02:41:21,210 --> 02:41:25,490
satisfy elevation and cost requirements without being built in someone's backyard.

1782
02:41:25,490 --> 02:41:32,050
I would just ask what is the point of lurk if they vote seven and nothing and we don't follow their recommendation. Thank you

1783
02:41:32,590 --> 02:41:33,510
Thank you.

1784
02:41:38,560 --> 02:41:41,260
See you counsel Andrew Costa and the reserve

1785
02:41:42,540 --> 02:41:50,920
I want to stop by saying how how much is a foreigner? I appreciate that I hope that the young kids in here can appreciate what it means to have a representative government

1786
02:41:50,920 --> 02:41:56,620
So to Todd and Heidi for everything you've done and the communication you've had with us

1787
02:41:57,100 --> 02:41:58,580
It's been greatly appreciated

1788
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:08,600
I want to echo the sentiment regarding the land use commission because I think much of the

1789
02:42:09,320 --> 02:42:15,160
reluctance to get behind this project or get behind the city staff has been the dismissive

1790
02:42:15,160 --> 02:42:22,240
nature with which our current questions have been addressed. We have had months of this. It took

1791
02:42:22,240 --> 02:42:30,380
the land use commission a two hour hearing to shoot holes in it not to vote 43 not 52 not 61

1792
02:42:30,380 --> 02:42:38,720
in two hours, they voted seven to zero, and that was just, and I think about like we've spoken

1793
02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:45,220
about these alternative sites. You know, they put up three stars and four stars. What is three stars?

1794
02:42:45,640 --> 02:42:51,320
What is four stars? How much is three stars worth? And then we also talk about like we're building

1795
02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:58,520
these things have a usable life of 50, 75 hundred years. Where is the solar plan? Where is the alternative

1796
02:42:58,520 --> 02:43:04,900
energy plan to make this more green. Like there are so many questions that haven't been answered

1797
02:43:04,900 --> 02:43:12,000
that when you vote yes you vote yes to spending $80 million of our money with so many

1798
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:18,320
question marks that are number one not aligned with the overarching goal of being a resident of

1799
02:43:18,320 --> 02:43:24,560
broomfield and being part of this community but also you know what are we striving to be not for

1800
02:43:24,560 --> 02:43:29,880
us today, but for the generations to follow, are we going to be the ones that go, oh yeah,

1801
02:43:30,060 --> 02:43:35,420
that last remaining hilltop, it was $7 million more to do to bury it at the time.

1802
02:43:35,860 --> 02:43:40,860
And if you guys remember, I sent you an email, $7 million across all the residents comes out

1803
02:43:40,860 --> 02:43:49,320
to $91 over 50 years to bury the tanks. So I think it's about perspective. A lot of work has

1804
02:43:49,320 --> 02:43:56,640
done, but sometimes just stepping back and realizing you will never regret voting no tonight.

1805
02:43:57,380 --> 02:44:04,860
But your kids could very possibly regret that you've heard yes, and that one spot is not gone forever.

1806
02:44:05,320 --> 02:44:14,060
Those are your time. Thank you very much. Ted Wallace or I mean, I don't think I don't really hear you.

1807
02:44:17,480 --> 02:44:24,160
Council members, Mayor Pro Tem, Mayor, I'm Ted Walhouse from Anthem Reserve.

1808
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:31,240
I really have a lot of empathy for the tough decision you have to make tonight.

1809
02:44:33,380 --> 02:44:38,920
Requires you to really be thoughtful and think through an enormous amount of information.

1810
02:44:40,800 --> 02:44:43,380
City manager Hopman, same to you.

1811
02:44:43,380 --> 02:44:53,940
I know that you are, you're juggling 10 million plates over there and it's very difficult and it's probably very easy for you to hit the easy button on this.

1812
02:44:54,400 --> 02:44:59,960
What I start to have trouble with in terms of the empathy is to do.

1813
02:45:01,200 --> 02:45:14,980
A lot of conversations about us doing our due diligence. And we have tried. I don't know about you, but I've been brought up in an environment where I've been taught that none of us succeeds without the help of others.

1814
02:45:15,660 --> 02:45:27,940
Do you recognize in our, your constituents in this community? We have engineers, not only engineers, but engineers that specifically has specialized knowledge and expertise in exactly these kinds of projects.

1815
02:45:27,940 --> 02:45:32,140
And they brought ideas to the table, we've had a little bit of an audience,

1816
02:45:35,370 --> 02:45:38,290
and we've asked a lot of questions, but we really feel ignored.

1817
02:45:40,840 --> 02:45:45,280
I looked at these presentations tonight, there's lacking information and there's filters there.

1818
02:45:45,500 --> 02:45:48,540
In the study session, no disrespect.

1819
02:45:49,640 --> 02:45:53,980
But Mayor Pro Tem, you asked a question, did the residents know about this project?

1820
02:45:57,570 --> 02:46:02,910
See, manager Hoffman, you said, bless their hearts, they really want to filter this information.

1821
02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:06,630
the way they see fit for their point of view.

1822
02:46:07,750 --> 02:46:12,390
I would suggest to you that the filter needs to be on the other side of the fence.

1823
02:46:13,890 --> 02:46:18,970
You are filtering information and you're not complete with the information

1824
02:46:18,970 --> 02:46:25,970
and we brought ideas to the table and we don't feel listened to.

1825
02:46:26,130 --> 02:46:29,890
You have an opportunity to push the pause button and stop this.

1826
02:46:30,990 --> 02:46:32,350
Let's look at these locations.

1827
02:46:33,730 --> 02:46:37,450
We don't think that they've been looked at very carefully and why do we say that because of the

1828
02:46:37,450 --> 02:46:42,390
information that we have and we may not have all the information, but this is a community

1829
02:46:42,930 --> 02:46:45,070
and your constituents care.

1830
02:46:46,530 --> 02:46:47,490
I would ask you to pause.

1831
02:46:48,810 --> 02:46:50,370
Do your due diligence, do the right thing.

1832
02:46:51,790 --> 02:46:55,990
And we did Mayor Protem, get an email from the City Engineer and said a single very

1833
02:46:55,990 --> 02:47:05,470
take right before that meeting with only less than 50% of the community done.

1834
02:47:06,090 --> 02:47:12,130
Two options. Think about relocating. Possibly bury the tanks and preserve that beautiful hilltop.

1835
02:47:12,570 --> 02:47:17,530
Thank you. Thank you.

1836
02:47:18,250 --> 02:47:25,390
Eric, it's all. I live in Brunefield. Okay so other than Boulder and I mean there's

1837
02:47:25,390 --> 02:47:29,570
all series other than Boulder what other city or county in the Denver metro area

1838
02:47:29,570 --> 02:47:33,950
has a view like that. Boulder doesn't even have a view that expansive but I

1839
02:47:33,950 --> 02:47:38,130
can guarantee if they did they wouldn't put a pump hose, free water tanks, and a

1840
02:47:38,130 --> 02:47:42,550
seven foot fence on that spot because they recognize the importance that open space

1841
02:47:42,550 --> 02:47:47,030
has in our communities. By the way, have you seen that fence? It literally looks like

1842
02:47:47,030 --> 02:47:48,930
maximum security present.

1843
02:47:49,710 --> 02:47:54,130
Anyone who argues that we are only complaining because it affects our views, you are dead

1844
02:47:54,130 --> 02:47:54,590
wrong.

1845
02:47:55,290 --> 02:47:59,070
As more and more areas fill in with housing and commercial projects, this space will have

1846
02:47:59,070 --> 02:47:59,970
even more value.

1847
02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:04,690
In 10 years think of the growth and how important it will be to have this hilltop area

1848
02:48:04,690 --> 02:48:06,350
to get away from it all.

1849
02:48:06,730 --> 02:48:08,870
I love water, water is awesome.

1850
02:48:09,450 --> 02:48:11,270
No one said we don't need water towers.

1851
02:48:11,890 --> 02:48:13,970
Why do they have to be in the gem of broomfield?

1852
02:48:13,970 --> 02:48:18,990
Why would they lead us on to believe it was a beautiful open space and build a trail and

1853
02:48:18,990 --> 02:48:21,510
benches only to rip it all out?

1854
02:48:22,530 --> 02:48:25,430
Why should industrial things be in residential neighborhoods?

1855
02:48:26,750 --> 02:48:31,530
Why go so far out of your way to make it neighbor friendly when you could make it super

1856
02:48:31,530 --> 02:48:34,910
duper, un-navor friendly in an industrial area?

1857
02:48:36,090 --> 02:48:38,610
You could pump to your heart's content somewhere else.

1858
02:48:38,610 --> 02:48:43,170
The alternative sites are all a little bit less than 100 foot difference.

1859
02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:46,630
Are you seeing your pumps can't pump 100 feet more?

1860
02:48:47,690 --> 02:48:53,710
How does 100 yards from residents still earn you two stars for how much it affects neighbors?

1861
02:48:54,590 --> 02:48:55,670
100 yards is nothing.

1862
02:48:56,270 --> 02:48:58,570
Just curious, what does it take to get zero stars?

1863
02:48:58,830 --> 02:49:00,910
Does it literally need to be next to my toilet?

1864
02:49:02,330 --> 02:49:08,470
All your criteria for why alternative sites won't work involve money or machines having to dig deeper.

1865
02:49:09,270 --> 02:49:11,930
Are you doing this by hand with garden shovels?

1866
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:15,790
You're saying money is more important than preserving the view.

1867
02:49:16,690 --> 02:49:21,670
Just remember, once you ruin this open space, you can never unrewen it.

1868
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:29,430
I guess I'm just like almost brought to tears because I just feel, it's hard, I'm from

1869
02:49:29,430 --> 02:49:34,890
Boulder and what I've seen them do in the last seven, eight years and all the upper

1870
02:49:34,890 --> 02:49:41,030
growth and I just, it concerns me and there were areas in Boulder and Bloomfield now that

1871
02:49:41,030 --> 02:49:47,330
I'm new here that I always thought were open space and then suddenly boom for sale for

1872
02:49:47,330 --> 02:49:53,070
Please, for commercial sale, and it makes me realize that what I think we have is shrinking

1873
02:49:53,070 --> 02:49:57,970
greater and greater and greater, and the reason I moved there is for that view.

1874
02:49:58,030 --> 02:50:00,690
I don't want you to not build them there because I moved there.

1875
02:50:01,030 --> 02:50:05,790
Has nothing to do with me, and anyone who goes up there, you'll meet people from all over

1876
02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:11,130
not just people who are coming directly from Anthem Reserves, so I don't really appreciate

1877
02:50:11,130 --> 02:50:14,950
the privileged comments, because I'm doing this for everybody.

1878
02:50:15,870 --> 02:50:16,470
Thank you.

1879
02:50:16,470 --> 02:50:23,670
Thank you. Our next three speakers will be the last ones for the three minutes, and that'll be

1880
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:28,450
Braden Peters, Summer on the phone, and Ryan, Brasantzus.

1881
02:50:31,760 --> 02:50:33,140
It will start with Braden,

1882
02:50:37,150 --> 02:50:38,550
remaining four speakers.

1883
02:50:40,230 --> 02:50:41,590
Hey, you're terrible.

1884
02:50:46,220 --> 02:50:51,080
I was going counsel. Sorry, I'm a little bit new to this. You'll have to bear with me.

1885
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:57,040
But I just come up here. I'm probably going to be one of your youngest speakers besides Ryan back here.

1886
02:50:57,040 --> 02:50:58,600
But we both live in the Anthem Reserve.

1887
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:00,940
And my name is Brandon Peters.

1888
02:51:01,660 --> 02:51:03,200
Sorry, I apologize, a little nervous.

1889
02:51:04,140 --> 02:51:06,520
But I do have lots of memories from this place.

1890
02:51:07,260 --> 02:51:11,340
And whenever I talk about this part of town,

1891
02:51:11,540 --> 02:51:14,980
it's always Mount Brumfield, Adam called it.

1892
02:51:14,980 --> 02:51:18,280
It is by far the most beautiful place

1893
02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:20,180
that we have in the video that we were shown earlier

1894
02:51:20,180 --> 02:51:25,680
does not show the true beauty of what that place holds up there.

1895
02:51:25,680 --> 02:51:30,340
It's something remarkable, and we talk about, you know, tons of people coming into

1896
02:51:30,340 --> 02:51:30,780
broomfield.

1897
02:51:30,780 --> 02:51:34,800
You ask yourselves why, why are people coming into broomfield, and it's because it's beautiful.

1898
02:51:35,300 --> 02:51:40,500
This is the pinnacle of why broomfield is beautiful is this top, this hill top right here.

1899
02:51:42,680 --> 02:51:46,220
And just the other night, me, my brother and my little sister walked up to the top of the hill.

1900
02:51:46,340 --> 02:51:47,240
We could see Starlink.

1901
02:51:47,420 --> 02:51:48,840
It's beautiful view up there.

1902
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:49,440
Super crazy.

1903
02:51:49,560 --> 02:51:51,620
I thought we were being taken over by UFOs at first.

1904
02:51:52,340 --> 02:51:55,700
There are many other places for these towers that we have looked into.

1905
02:51:55,860 --> 02:51:56,480
I've heard many things.

1906
02:51:56,520 --> 02:51:59,720
I don't have very many factual things to tell you tonight.

1907
02:51:59,860 --> 02:52:02,020
It is more speaking from my heart,

1908
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:08,900
but it is very important to me that this place stays beautiful

1909
02:52:08,900 --> 02:52:11,720
because it is the reason why people come here.

1910
02:52:11,880 --> 02:52:14,020
It's the reason why people are moving here.

1911
02:52:15,180 --> 02:52:17,860
And I heard something about, you know,

1912
02:52:17,860 --> 02:52:20,580
like we build houses up there, but now water towers,

1913
02:52:20,580 --> 02:52:26,920
You know, it's because the houses are beautiful. We want to live in a beautiful area. Water towers are not beautiful.

1914
02:52:27,360 --> 02:52:31,320
No amount of sheet metal. How bronze or copper it is. We'll never be beautiful.

1915
02:52:32,400 --> 02:52:39,440
I do think that there are alternative options to this and hearing, you know, I was in part of the housing contracts.

1916
02:52:40,120 --> 02:52:47,760
But, you know, if we were told that there were going to be put underground, I as a homeowner would expect them to be put underground.

1917
02:52:49,380 --> 02:52:53,240
And you know, Anthem, especially one of its main selling points is its trails.

1918
02:52:54,300 --> 02:52:56,340
This, again, I'll use the word pinnacle.

1919
02:52:56,580 --> 02:52:58,380
This is the pinnacle trail.

1920
02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:02,860
This is when people hike these trails, they go to this spot.

1921
02:53:03,140 --> 02:53:08,940
The amount of times where I go when I see an unfamiliar car parked at the top of that cul-de-sac,

1922
02:53:09,340 --> 02:53:12,760
up at the top there to see a group of four or five kids up there.

1923
02:53:12,920 --> 02:53:16,540
When I go up there and I see the kids that I coach for eighth grade lacrosse, room field

1924
02:53:16,540 --> 02:53:29,460
There's going up there because I told them three years prior to go there, it's a special place, and it will be continued to be a special place moving forward, and I sure hope you guys put that into consideration.

1925
02:53:30,200 --> 02:53:30,880
Thank you very much.

1926
02:53:31,880 --> 02:53:32,640
Thank you.

1927
02:53:33,240 --> 02:53:36,460
We're going to go summer on the phone and then we'll get to you Ryan.

1928
02:53:36,860 --> 02:53:38,700
So summer, it is your turn.

1929
02:53:38,900 --> 02:53:39,780
Can you hear us?

1930
02:53:42,340 --> 02:53:42,580
Okay.

1931
02:53:43,240 --> 02:53:43,460
All right.

1932
02:53:43,520 --> 02:53:43,980
Go ahead.

1933
02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:45,140
You can start whenever.

1934
02:53:45,900 --> 02:53:53,720
I'm a resident of Springfield, and there's an enough income reserve as well.

1935
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:58,160
I will also reiterate that this is not and never has been an arrangement against the need for water.

1936
02:53:58,960 --> 02:54:02,880
We all love water, and we know it's incredibly important to know the property here.

1937
02:54:03,200 --> 02:54:06,180
I'm going to review committee's commission, excuse me.

1938
02:54:06,180 --> 02:54:08,220
are unanimously voted to a reference

1939
02:54:08,220 --> 02:54:11,260
Niles of proposals 7 to 0, as you've heard,

1940
02:54:11,560 --> 02:54:13,120
many of the other residents on reference

1941
02:54:13,120 --> 02:54:15,400
singing detail, they determined that the

1942
02:54:15,400 --> 02:54:16,940
lurk determined that the review standards

1943
02:54:16,940 --> 02:54:19,220
that were required to be met were not met.

1944
02:54:19,420 --> 02:54:21,320
That's why they voted unanimously to deny.

1945
02:54:22,400 --> 02:54:24,300
And these members of the commission

1946
02:54:24,300 --> 02:54:26,500
are not residents of the answer were served.

1947
02:54:27,160 --> 02:54:29,580
They were informed, educated, and post-important questions

1948
02:54:29,580 --> 02:54:30,880
and had to misguide concerns

1949
02:54:30,880 --> 02:54:32,260
and the follow-up information

1950
02:54:32,260 --> 02:54:34,280
from the city did not fully rectify.

1951
02:54:34,280 --> 02:54:36,840
So much so much though that they voted unanimously.

1952
02:54:38,580 --> 02:54:41,280
It's quite curious to see that the presentation we heard tonight,

1953
02:54:41,740 --> 02:54:43,760
strategically left out significant concerns that

1954
02:54:43,760 --> 02:54:46,600
lurk communicated during the meeting where they voted to deny.

1955
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:50,500
And it seems that there were picking and choosing and minimizing

1956
02:54:51,320 --> 02:54:53,300
in a way that was convenient for the presentation.

1957
02:54:54,200 --> 02:54:57,640
Lerke had informed and educated and significant questions and concerns

1958
02:54:58,500 --> 02:55:02,860
and communicated those many of the residents, including myself,

1959
02:55:02,860 --> 02:55:10,680
we're at that meeting. It was important that they stayed for over two hours and many questions

1960
02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:15,780
that can turn from the residents. There's a recording and transcript of that meeting,

1961
02:55:15,980 --> 02:55:19,720
and I would encourage all of the residents to go and listen to that to get a much further

1962
02:55:19,720 --> 02:55:22,540
mixture of the issues and concerns and attack all of the group's fields.

1963
02:55:23,900 --> 02:55:29,900
One significant concern that Laura Cad was that there was minimized was that the paving

1964
02:55:29,900 --> 02:55:33,700
have the existing trial for training to make the tank maintenance truck that will drive up

1965
02:55:33,700 --> 02:55:41,680
and down at daily. It wasn't just a recommendation to keep the tank maintenance truck out

1966
02:55:41,680 --> 02:55:46,520
of the neighborhood. It was, there were significant concerns about keeping the existing

1967
02:55:46,520 --> 02:55:53,020
trial that's used for recreation and putting tank maintenance vehicles daily on it when adults

1968
02:55:53,020 --> 02:55:58,280
and children and animals continue to use that for recreation. That is a significant concern

1969
02:55:58,280 --> 02:56:10,020
or residential room fields, as the trail is meant for foot traffic, it's meant for kids and adults and children to play and explore.

1970
02:56:10,600 --> 02:56:14,240
And daily we're going to put a maintenance truck up and down that to drive up and down.

1971
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:20,220
Hoping that somebody doesn't get hit that, you know, that that's kind of the day.

1972
02:56:20,220 --> 02:56:24,600
Maybe the maintenance worker isn't paying as opposed to the attention, because he's dropped

1973
02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:29,840
to drive up and down the trail, that's meant for people to walk on and play on, to go

1974
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:36,600
for a daily maintenance as the tanks and hoping that's the children that we allow to explore

1975
02:56:36,600 --> 02:56:43,180
and play freely in an environment, and they never had that quite frankly, has very few safe places

1976
02:56:43,180 --> 02:56:46,860
for them to explore, we're taking that away from them.

1977
02:56:47,520 --> 02:56:54,220
And the plan to pay that is it was a significant concern, it poses a danger, it poses

1978
02:56:54,220 --> 02:56:55,720
a huge liability for the city.

1979
02:56:55,740 --> 02:57:01,600
Is me summer, can I wrap up, show me the decision to do that?

1980
02:57:01,960 --> 02:57:09,080
And we do know that summer, we want the summer, in your time, has expired, can you wrap

1981
02:57:09,080 --> 02:57:09,780
up your thoughts?

1982
02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:16,600
Can you hear us, your time is expired.

1983
02:57:16,860 --> 02:57:19,320
Can you please wrap up your thoughts?

1984
02:57:20,920 --> 02:57:21,320
Yes, sorry.

1985
02:57:21,500 --> 02:57:21,800
Quickly.

1986
02:57:24,830 --> 02:57:25,250
Is it all?

1987
02:57:26,050 --> 02:57:28,050
We're concerned that we're going to put our children

1988
02:57:28,050 --> 02:57:30,370
and residents of Brunefield who use the trail at risk

1989
02:57:30,370 --> 02:57:33,150
because they use more land to create a separate pace path

1990
02:57:33,150 --> 02:57:34,110
as they should.

1991
02:57:34,290 --> 02:57:37,690
It would extend over one acre and require a change of use to put up about it.

1992
02:57:37,870 --> 02:57:37,950
All right.

1993
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:38,730
Thank you.

1994
02:57:38,730 --> 02:57:43,510
you're in the field market. Thank you, you're four minutes now. I'm sorry, your time is expired.

1995
02:57:43,830 --> 02:57:46,770
We've got to move on. Ryan, it's your turn.

1996
02:57:47,470 --> 02:57:49,730
Hi, I'm sorry, I don't know if you guys can hear me.

1997
02:57:50,350 --> 02:57:52,810
Uh, as you can tell, I've never done this before, but...

1998
02:57:52,810 --> 02:57:53,430
It's okay.

1999
02:57:54,310 --> 02:57:54,750
This...

2000
02:57:54,750 --> 02:57:55,250
Friendly.

2001
02:57:55,470 --> 02:57:56,590
You promised me.

2002
02:57:58,350 --> 02:58:00,090
This hilltop means the world to me.

2003
02:58:00,370 --> 02:58:03,190
I've gone up there, and I...

2004
02:58:03,190 --> 02:58:05,050
I never really...

2005
02:58:05,050 --> 02:58:07,730
We don't...my family doesn't go to church as much as like...

2006
02:58:07,730 --> 02:58:15,470
we should, I know that. But when I go up to that hilltop, it connects me to God, I feel.

2007
02:58:15,810 --> 02:58:22,690
Like it truly hits something, when I go up there sometimes I just go up and break down crying,

2008
02:58:23,010 --> 02:58:30,190
for no reason. Just because it just feels good to get up there. It's mainly because of you.

2009
02:58:30,810 --> 02:58:35,590
It'd be completely ruined if you put these tax in, like, genuinely.

2010
02:58:36,950 --> 02:58:39,950
Unless you're 15 feet tall, you're not seen over that.

2011
02:58:40,650 --> 02:58:47,070
Like, and in the video, it didn't show the beauty of where, like, it made a point.

2012
02:58:47,350 --> 02:58:55,030
I feel to go over those rocks and that bench, where it's just a beautiful circle of rocks

2013
02:58:55,030 --> 02:59:06,070
an amazing bench, which is a monument to a close family friend and it doesn't show what

2014
02:59:06,070 --> 02:59:15,190
this hilltop truly means and it's an amazing place and I know like many of my friends

2015
02:59:15,190 --> 02:59:23,550
go up there constantly and feel the same exactly as I do and even that parking lot that's

2016
02:59:23,550 --> 02:59:29,150
amazing place for my friends to go and just talk and have a community between us all.

2017
02:59:30,650 --> 02:59:38,050
And I know this is kind of a sob sorry but this does just truly mean more of me, this hilltop

2018
02:59:39,050 --> 02:59:46,790
and I make it a point to go up there as much as I can. I know I get busy but it is just a beautiful

2019
02:59:46,790 --> 02:59:48,490
mind-carriage all you got.

2020
02:59:52,160 --> 02:59:58,300
It's just, you put these tanks in, it's just ruling that natural beauty.

2021
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,440
I don't have very much more to say. I didn't really prepare this all just from the heart. And yeah. Thank you

2022
03:00:06,440 --> 03:00:12,020
guys for your time. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Ryan. It was very eloquent. Now we have

2023
03:00:12,020 --> 03:00:17,980
four more people signed up for two minutes of public comment. That's the 16 through 19. And we

2024
03:00:17,980 --> 03:00:24,860
do have time if anybody else wants to add on. So next we have Lyndon Peters, Michelle Farmer, Steve

2025
03:00:24,860 --> 03:00:26,940
Harris and Johnny Way.

2026
03:00:39,570 --> 03:00:43,270
Hello council, like many of my other fellow speakers here. This is also my

2027
03:00:43,270 --> 03:00:49,310
first time doing this. But I can tell that you guys are very friendly. I think it has been made

2028
03:00:49,310 --> 03:00:55,110
clear that this place is a very special place for a lot of people. However, I would like to

2029
03:00:55,110 --> 03:01:01,310
harp on it a little bit more specifically. This is not just a room-filled resident issue. This

2030
03:01:01,310 --> 03:01:07,990
is not only just a Anthem Reserve issue, this spans to all of our neighboring towns and communities

2031
03:01:07,990 --> 03:01:10,910
and even beyond that.

2032
03:01:11,450 --> 03:01:17,390
To a lot of my friends, this has become a place of a prayer, a second a place for people

2033
03:01:17,390 --> 03:01:23,350
practice the guitar, maybe seeing something like that, sunrise and sunsets and also being

2034
03:01:23,350 --> 03:01:25,610
there at night is also just amazing.

2035
03:01:26,890 --> 03:01:54,210
But yeah, so basically, me being up here, I just wanted to really explain to you guys that when you're making this decision you're not making this decision only for room field, you're making this decision for the neighboring cities and communities around us, this is not only beneficial to the people of our neighborhood or even our city, this is beneficial to everyone, and I'd appreciate it if you would consider not putting tanks out through in this sort of people.

2036
03:01:54,670 --> 03:01:56,310
That's it. Thank you.

2037
03:01:56,310 --> 03:01:57,390
Thank you very much.

2038
03:02:01,180 --> 03:02:03,460
Hi, my name is Michelle Farmer from Anthem.

2039
03:02:03,780 --> 03:02:07,360
I didn't realize I had two minutes, so I'm going to try to skip through a little bit.

2040
03:02:07,540 --> 03:02:08,540
So I'll go fast.

2041
03:02:09,860 --> 03:02:13,260
Last year I was blindsided to learn about a massive water tank project.

2042
03:02:13,400 --> 03:02:15,620
It was never disclosed to the initial residents.

2043
03:02:16,400 --> 03:02:21,400
And now you've increased the project from one small tank to three enormous ones and a huge pump station.

2044
03:02:22,180 --> 03:02:29,380
Since this started, you allowed and zone for a beautiful residential neighborhood and open space to be built.

2045
03:02:29,940 --> 03:02:34,540
I understand if this was meant for tanks, but a neighborhood should have never been right next to it,

2046
03:02:34,540 --> 03:02:36,840
especially when the people buying homes didn't even know.

2047
03:02:37,700 --> 03:02:44,180
Now you're increasing the initial scope, more than threefold increasing the cost from 15 to 80 million of taxpayer money.

2048
03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:48,200
These massive tanks will be located 150 feet from homes.

2049
03:02:48,200 --> 03:02:57,100
The access point for construction will be next to a park, a kids park, or massive equipment will clog up one of only two ways to enter our entire neighborhood.

2050
03:02:58,040 --> 03:03:04,440
I'd also like to say that out of all the alternative options, all the other ones are right and anthem neighborhood.

2051
03:03:04,920 --> 03:03:16,080
You're right back to where you are with some of those other options. It preserves the hilltop, which would be huge, but the other options are still right in all of everybody's backyard right there.

2052
03:03:17,160 --> 03:03:22,400
I hope you've gone up there yourself and really looked before blindly voting on this project.

2053
03:03:22,900 --> 03:03:25,240
The views will take your breath away like everyone said.

2054
03:03:25,820 --> 03:03:28,600
When you look at eerie from afar, all you see is the dump.

2055
03:03:28,880 --> 03:03:33,640
When you look at room filled from afar, you will see three massive water tanks, what a shame.

2056
03:03:34,620 --> 03:03:40,080
You have the power to ask the important questions and understand why isn't this isn't being put in industrial location.

2057
03:03:40,080 --> 03:03:46,540
location. There are water-takes and cities that are flat. Kansas is flat, Texas is flat. They

2058
03:03:46,540 --> 03:03:51,920
found a way that it doesn't have to be placed on an entire highest elevation and uses

2059
03:03:51,920 --> 03:03:58,140
the best pumping technologies. As an elected official representing your constituents, you

2060
03:03:58,140 --> 03:04:04,240
will be responsible for the significant loss of open space, breathtaking views, and the devaluation

2061
03:04:04,240 --> 03:04:10,780
of homes in many neighborhoods. Please do the right thing, evaluate industrial locations, and

2062
03:04:10,780 --> 03:04:15,040
don't proceed with the only option shown to you tonight, or even some of those ones that

2063
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:21,020
meet five acres in a certain height elevation. It may be the hard choice, but it's the right

2064
03:04:21,020 --> 03:04:24,960
choice for your citizens. Thank you. Thank you very much.

2065
03:04:28,410 --> 03:04:29,950
I didn't know that I was tied to two minutes

2066
03:04:29,950 --> 03:04:35,250
also, so I'll try to get this in pretty quick, but it's a mayor. Thank you very much. Mayor,

2067
03:04:35,250 --> 03:04:38,830
Mayor, Pro Tem, Council Member, staff, my name is Steve Derris.

2068
03:04:39,730 --> 03:04:46,170
Live in Anthem Reserve and purchase that property in April of 2020.

2069
03:04:46,170 --> 03:04:48,230
So 2020, not 2022.

2070
03:04:49,110 --> 03:04:53,230
Prior to that, my wife and I moved to Brunefield in 1996.

2071
03:04:53,950 --> 03:04:57,610
We lived in Merrimonti Farms for 24 years.

2072
03:04:58,030 --> 03:04:58,730
Raise our family.

2073
03:04:59,550 --> 03:05:01,310
Okay, so when to high school here, when to middle school,

2074
03:05:01,430 --> 03:05:03,530
when to coal school, this is home.

2075
03:05:04,070 --> 03:05:04,090
Okay.

2076
03:05:04,090 --> 03:05:07,050
We got to a point where the kids moved out of school.

2077
03:05:07,790 --> 03:05:12,170
Hey, let's get out of that house and in our money farms and let's go find a house that we

2078
03:05:12,170 --> 03:05:15,270
want to retire in and live there probably to the end of our days.

2079
03:05:15,530 --> 03:05:18,370
And that's what we thought we did at Anthem Reserve.

2080
03:05:19,530 --> 03:05:23,750
So you know, one of the things that was brought up earlier and, you know, this is a beautiful

2081
03:05:23,750 --> 03:05:28,050
view shed and all that, but one of the things that really has me and I'm a civil engineer,

2082
03:05:28,050 --> 03:05:35,270
I've been doing a lot of work and professional engineer but when we bought the property in April

2083
03:05:35,270 --> 03:05:41,310
actually is a year prior to build that house there was no notification we were notified in our

2084
03:05:41,310 --> 03:05:46,750
title papers hey there's the area airport you know you're gonna have planes flying over got it

2085
03:05:46,750 --> 03:05:55,250
hey there's fracking under here got it sign that but when I look at page eight of the council agenda item right

2086
03:05:55,250 --> 03:06:01,470
Now, fourth paragraph, the anthem filing number 24 sub division improvement and site development

2087
03:06:01,470 --> 03:06:06,190
and plan specified that the developers of the residential lots shall be responsible for

2088
03:06:06,190 --> 03:06:09,270
notifying residents of the future tank project.

2089
03:06:10,010 --> 03:06:14,770
A number of residents have reported to staff that notice was not provided prior.

2090
03:06:15,390 --> 03:06:15,990
I'm one of those.

2091
03:06:15,990 --> 03:06:17,690
We call ourselves the OGs.

2092
03:06:17,730 --> 03:06:22,490
I was a fourth house in there and I've asked many of our neighbors.

2093
03:06:22,490 --> 03:06:30,130
is this? Did you have exhibit F? The answer is no. The statement continues to go on in the

2094
03:06:30,130 --> 03:06:34,950
state staff report. The lack of notice is not precluded. The proposal from being considered

2095
03:06:34,950 --> 03:06:41,630
by the city council. The two builders within the community, copper homes and epic. Most of

2096
03:06:41,630 --> 03:06:48,110
our FSR epic have received communication from staff requesting that notice is be provided moving forward.

2097
03:06:48,110 --> 03:06:55,450
moving forward. I already bought that property, okay. So I have a little bit of time and

2098
03:06:55,450 --> 03:07:00,770
hopefully you'll grant me a little bit more. Exhibit F as we've been discussed about.

2099
03:07:01,450 --> 03:07:11,290
I'd like to read that to you. And it's something that was part of filing 24. It was

2100
03:07:11,290 --> 03:07:15,650
required by, because when I moved in and then we started hearing a year or two later

2101
03:07:15,650 --> 03:07:17,390
there's going to be tanks on the hill and I'll wet.

2102
03:07:18,010 --> 03:07:20,850
So we started looking into the zoning and planning that are

2103
03:07:20,850 --> 03:07:24,870
proven sure enough, there's that square on 24.

2104
03:07:25,530 --> 03:07:26,550
And I go, well, there it is.

2105
03:07:26,930 --> 03:07:28,090
And we should have known that.

2106
03:07:28,250 --> 03:07:29,830
It was there, I didn't do my homework.

2107
03:07:31,190 --> 03:07:33,530
But exhibit F, not being in our title paperwork,

2108
03:07:34,030 --> 03:07:34,950
really concerns me.

2109
03:07:34,990 --> 03:07:37,070
And it can concern all of you that are buying a house

2110
03:07:37,070 --> 03:07:38,230
in Bloomfield or anywhere.

2111
03:07:39,390 --> 03:07:41,950
It's called proximity to future development

2112
03:07:41,950 --> 03:07:45,090
of water storage tank and future ball field lighting,

2113
03:07:45,090 --> 03:07:47,990
which I didn't know about either when I bought my house.

2114
03:07:48,890 --> 03:07:50,990
Acknowledgement, Anthem, Brunefield, Colorado,

2115
03:07:51,170 --> 03:07:54,290
Lot, Blank, Filing, Blank, Address, Blank.

2116
03:07:54,650 --> 03:07:57,830
Purchase your acknowledges that the lot which is being purchased

2117
03:07:57,830 --> 03:08:01,090
is located in the close proximity to future development

2118
03:08:01,090 --> 03:08:06,780
of water storage tank and Anthem community park,

2119
03:08:07,730 --> 03:08:10,170
which will have development of lighted ball fields.

2120
03:08:11,410 --> 03:08:12,810
Okay, I play softball.

2121
03:08:12,830 --> 03:08:15,490
I play softball here since 96, I love softball.

2122
03:08:15,490 --> 03:08:22,110
I'm okay with the lights in the park, but the responsibility or liability whatsoever, and

2123
03:08:22,110 --> 03:08:29,430
someone mentioned this, for claims, any claims, or clauses of action, either in law or

2124
03:08:29,430 --> 03:08:36,350
an equity arising from any and all impacts on the light or the purchasers quality of life

2125
03:08:36,350 --> 03:08:43,090
in parentheses, resulting from a related to land development, a future water storage tank

2126
03:08:43,090 --> 03:08:47,790
as shown at Anthem filing 24 site development plan or the installation of lighted

2127
03:08:47,790 --> 03:08:53,470
buff fields as shown in the preble creek filing to site development plan as such may

2128
03:08:53,470 --> 03:09:01,230
be amended from time to signature lines upon signature and sale of the home builders with

2129
03:09:01,230 --> 03:09:06,590
Anthem filing 24 will record this document with the city and county of Brunefield. So did the

2130
03:09:06,590 --> 03:09:12,050
city and county of Brunefield have any responsibility to make sure that Anthem epic or copper

2131
03:09:12,050 --> 03:09:17,670
informed us of this and it was included in our title work, I'm looking into my title company

2132
03:09:17,670 --> 03:09:22,750
to see if their insurance will cover what may happen to our property values with the tank

2133
03:09:22,750 --> 03:09:27,790
and the lighted ball fields. We bought this house three years prior to where the information of the

2134
03:09:27,790 --> 03:09:36,190
tanks came up. So with that I'd like to close long time resident made a lot of equity in our house

2135
03:09:36,190 --> 03:09:41,570
Mayor Monty Farms rolled that equity into Anthem reserve and that was going to be our final

2136
03:09:41,570 --> 03:09:41,950
place.

2137
03:09:42,150 --> 03:09:44,810
I'm not sure if that's the case now and that's sad.

2138
03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:48,430
My kids still live in the area, room field, home.

2139
03:09:49,410 --> 03:09:55,330
So when we looked at some of the options in the stars and this and why staff decided or

2140
03:09:55,330 --> 03:10:00,690
city manager decided to throw it out, I think about all the fracking, you guys have all been

2141
03:10:00,690 --> 03:10:07,270
involved in fracking, and these water lines or oil and gas lines that go through some of

2142
03:10:07,270 --> 03:10:08,130
these parcels.

2143
03:10:09,390 --> 03:10:13,070
There's a lot of us that do oil and gas and are associated with it, those lines can

2144
03:10:13,070 --> 03:10:13,610
be moved.

2145
03:10:14,230 --> 03:10:19,250
And to simply throw out those option locations, because water and gas lines from the oil

2146
03:10:19,250 --> 03:10:23,110
developers, which we all love, we never even asked them to move.

2147
03:10:23,470 --> 03:10:24,490
That was our casting mirror.

2148
03:10:25,270 --> 03:10:25,430
Okay.

2149
03:10:25,430 --> 03:10:33,310
I saw your face, so, you know, just in closing, you know, we were notified of airports fracking,

2150
03:10:34,210 --> 03:10:42,850
but did the city fall down, did the developers that had approved Anthem and 24, let us down

2151
03:10:42,850 --> 03:10:47,790
by not letting know these facilities would be in, that's impacting our property values, and

2152
03:10:47,790 --> 03:10:53,370
maybe my children's, you know, future, you know, on the value of that house.

2153
03:10:53,990 --> 03:10:59,350
So thank you very much for listening, I get long-winded, my wife's listening, she said, don't talk to you long.

2154
03:10:59,490 --> 03:10:59,850
So I'm glad.

2155
03:11:00,110 --> 03:11:00,690
Thank you.

2156
03:11:00,810 --> 03:11:01,230
It's all right.

2157
03:11:01,310 --> 03:11:02,990
Thank you very much, Mr. Wade.

2158
03:11:03,250 --> 03:11:04,190
I'm the Mr. Dares.

2159
03:11:04,450 --> 03:11:05,010
Donnie Wade?

2160
03:11:05,510 --> 03:11:05,950
I'm Johnny Wade.

2161
03:11:05,950 --> 03:11:09,150
I get some batting cleanup here, but thank you so much for listening to me.

2162
03:11:09,690 --> 03:11:13,750
I actually am last because I wanted to reserve judgment a little bit.

2163
03:11:13,890 --> 03:11:15,050
I hadn't seen the other options.

2164
03:11:15,970 --> 03:11:17,750
And when I saw them, I thought a couple of things.

2165
03:11:18,530 --> 03:11:19,030
One, diligence.

2166
03:11:19,430 --> 03:11:20,050
Thank you for that.

2167
03:11:20,050 --> 03:11:23,250
And two, what a great problem to have.

2168
03:11:23,350 --> 03:11:25,210
We have a growing city that needs more infrastructure.

2169
03:11:25,530 --> 03:11:26,070
It's fantastic.

2170
03:11:26,690 --> 03:11:27,830
And we have a neighborhood full of people

2171
03:11:27,830 --> 03:11:29,510
who care about the beauty of the city.

2172
03:11:29,550 --> 03:11:30,330
That's also fantastic.

2173
03:11:30,890 --> 03:11:32,850
So we're doing pretty well here.

2174
03:11:33,470 --> 03:11:35,590
From my perspective, I think this is a measure of values.

2175
03:11:35,750 --> 03:11:37,110
I don't know what those little dots mean,

2176
03:11:37,610 --> 03:11:39,910
but we can weigh them however we see fit.

2177
03:11:40,470 --> 03:11:43,830
And some of those dots for the neighborhood

2178
03:11:43,830 --> 03:11:47,410
and the livelihood of people who are living there

2179
03:11:47,410 --> 03:11:48,750
and the people living room field,

2180
03:11:48,750 --> 03:11:53,430
Those seem to matter to me a lot, and maybe we just like weigh those little more.

2181
03:11:53,570 --> 03:11:59,750
Maybe that's a value judgment that we make as a city, that we can grow, we can accommodate

2182
03:11:59,750 --> 03:12:06,010
all these things that are happening, and we can continue to have this, but we can also balance

2183
03:12:06,010 --> 03:12:09,510
that with the things that we value internally as a city.

2184
03:12:09,810 --> 03:12:12,230
And so I guess my challenge to you would be like, make that judgment.

2185
03:12:13,410 --> 03:12:14,770
There are other viable options.

2186
03:12:14,770 --> 03:12:19,610
We proved it. They might be a little bit less optimal. If you're weighing the other things more,

2187
03:12:19,650 --> 03:12:23,670
but if you're weighing the things that matter to us as a city, more, they seem perfectly reasonable.

2188
03:12:24,450 --> 03:12:29,970
So have a great night. Thank you. Thank you very much. We do have a person who called in a little

2189
03:12:29,970 --> 03:12:37,050
bit late, so I'm going to go ahead and go back to the phone. And it's Bella, you're on and you have two minutes,

2190
03:12:41,540 --> 03:13:10,680
Hi, my name is Bella Jobman. I am 10 years old and I am a fifth grader. I just wanted to say that I really love that hill. It is one of my favorite places in the entire neighborhood and I love to go up to my friends and my family. I love to bike up there and I love to do a lot of things up there and when I heard that this plan was my

2191
03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:29,530
I have taken place, it did not make me feel very happy and really have that place for the rest

2192
03:13:29,530 --> 03:13:38,190
of the time that I live here because it is a very nice place that I love to interact with

2193
03:13:38,190 --> 03:13:45,650
of the people on and when I walk some of the dogs that I walk, I walk them up there.

2194
03:13:45,870 --> 03:13:54,870
I walk them all around that one spot because it is a very beautiful spot and I don't want

2195
03:13:54,870 --> 03:14:01,530
that to be ruined because people wanted to put in water tanks that can be putting somewhere else

2196
03:14:01,530 --> 03:14:09,470
that did not, that does not affect where at least probably 100 people with already when there's

2197
03:14:09,470 --> 03:14:15,190
still being house is built. I also want to say that I have been tired of hearing the

2198
03:14:15,190 --> 03:14:22,970
construction and the fact that it's almost done for building houses and that it might

2199
03:14:22,970 --> 03:14:28,310
happen again. I just don't really want that to happen. So thank you for your time.

2200
03:14:29,010 --> 03:14:36,610
Thank you, Bella, is there anyone else who would like to speak now at the time?

2201
03:14:36,870 --> 03:14:38,890
We don't have anybody else on the phone.

2202
03:14:39,930 --> 03:14:44,510
All right then, well thank you all so much for your thoughtful comments and for being patient.

2203
03:14:45,470 --> 03:14:47,430
We do appreciate your engagement,

2204
03:14:49,500 --> 03:14:52,120
but does the applicant have any final comments?

2205
03:14:54,640 --> 03:14:59,680
Okay, we're going to move on to questions from City Council members should limit themselves

2206
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:10,080
Questions during this portion, the time to introduce and amendments in state positions for or against this item is later. Are there any questions from Council? Council member Hinkle and then Cohen.

2207
03:15:12,950 --> 03:15:16,730
Thank you, Mayor, and I have a question. This is just a long-winded first question.

2208
03:15:17,490 --> 03:15:21,970
I do want to say, though, because you have to address a room like this. Thank you so much for being here.

2209
03:15:22,910 --> 03:15:28,250
Really means a lot. I remember being on that side for so long and for a lot of the same reasons, I'll be honest.

2210
03:15:28,250 --> 03:15:34,410
So thank you staff, the applicant, which is also staff and especially our city manager staff

2211
03:15:34,410 --> 03:15:38,230
from meeting with me, Todd, Andrew, Ted and Eric and Eric.

2212
03:15:38,390 --> 03:15:40,510
If you can hear me we are missing you tonight.

2213
03:15:41,830 --> 03:15:44,430
Thank you for the engagement tonight from the residents too.

2214
03:15:44,530 --> 03:15:49,590
And I was there in the neighborhood yesterday and I feel you with the sounds of the construction

2215
03:15:49,590 --> 03:15:50,330
in that area.

2216
03:15:51,370 --> 03:15:53,690
I got tired of it after being there for about two hours.

2217
03:15:53,690 --> 03:16:00,790
I agree with Chelsea May and Erica Dalin that I don't think anyone here doesn't want the water, that isn't the question here.

2218
03:16:01,470 --> 03:16:10,790
I noticed that the applicant presented alternative alternate site analysis and it surprised we didn't explore the area between the one number one spot and the number one two ranking spot.

2219
03:16:11,290 --> 03:16:12,730
Like a few residents have asked for.

2220
03:16:12,730 --> 03:16:17,250
Many why aren't we looking at removing the awful eyes sore of the old water tower that

2221
03:16:17,250 --> 03:16:21,550
doesn't work anymore by the mount replaced them with new these new water tanks in

2222
03:16:21,550 --> 03:16:25,670
negotiate the 5G cell tower to make income off the site.

2223
03:16:26,710 --> 03:16:31,130
So my question is now I know the application is for this site only so I can't be off

2224
03:16:31,130 --> 03:16:37,350
too off from this particular application but I just want to know who owns the land to

2225
03:16:37,350 --> 03:16:42,070
the south and to the southeast and is it open space or is it considered open lands?

2226
03:16:50,230 --> 03:16:56,110
The land to the southeast actually surrounding all of the water tank parcel is owned by the

2227
03:16:56,110 --> 03:17:01,670
city in County of Brimfield. It was dedicated by the developer as open space. So all of

2228
03:17:01,670 --> 03:17:09,130
that land surrounding the one tract where the tanks are proposed is open space. Okay. Thank you.

2229
03:17:10,270 --> 03:17:16,090
Okay. Second question is, we had Mr. Mike Pierce's questions where they answered and addressed

2230
03:17:16,090 --> 03:17:21,170
to email this, just basically the results of the work, you know,

2231
03:17:21,470 --> 03:17:23,930
results in highlighted a few items in there.

2232
03:17:24,110 --> 03:17:26,910
Can we address that tonight, or do you want to address that

2233
03:17:26,910 --> 03:17:27,850
after my next question?

2234
03:17:31,330 --> 03:17:35,290
So remember, with there, we did include in the staff memorandum

2235
03:17:35,290 --> 03:17:40,250
details of how staff took the recommendations and the statements

2236
03:17:40,250 --> 03:17:44,850
and the comments that it occurred at lurk and followed up on those.

2237
03:17:45,150 --> 03:17:47,990
And we also included some in the presentation was if there's one

2238
03:17:47,990 --> 03:17:49,790
that I missed or you'd like a little more information.

2239
03:17:51,900 --> 03:17:56,600
I believe he highlighted the parts who said the proposal should identify and mitigate potential

2240
03:17:56,600 --> 03:17:58,340
negative impacts on nearby properties.

2241
03:17:59,180 --> 03:18:03,840
The proposal should identify and maximize potential positive impacts on nearby properties and

2242
03:18:03,840 --> 03:18:05,040
so on.

2243
03:18:05,500 --> 03:18:12,140
Those were the findings that were listed in terms of what the Land Use Review Commission believed

2244
03:18:12,780 --> 03:18:16,740
were the findings of the required findings where a site development plan that they believed

2245
03:18:16,740 --> 03:18:22,800
the evidence that they saw at the public hearing were not being met and what we did in the

2246
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:26,880
memorandum was extrapolated. The comments that they had and the issues that they brought

2247
03:18:26,880 --> 03:18:33,080
forward. All of that discussion we believe was feeding into how they made that determination

2248
03:18:33,080 --> 03:18:34,200
for those findings.

2249
03:18:36,950 --> 03:18:42,330
We're addressing that. And then I had sent off an email today because Mr.

2250
03:18:42,410 --> 03:18:48,290
John Card contacted us with the questions below. He had a question regarding the water

2251
03:18:48,290 --> 03:18:52,670
tanks and is concerned about the water pressure, how that might change in the development

2252
03:18:52,670 --> 03:18:56,570
and could possibly actually the water pressure be lower in that neighborhood.

2253
03:18:57,470 --> 03:19:02,930
He also wanted to find out how his water pump affects his property value in relation to

2254
03:19:02,930 --> 03:19:07,910
the new tanks and if the tanks would affect his home value in this manner, do we have

2255
03:19:07,910 --> 03:19:09,470
an answer to that question?

2256
03:19:10,910 --> 03:19:14,950
Mr. Rut, can you address the PSI question?

2257
03:19:14,950 --> 03:19:20,930
Because I know the minimum PSI, I believe, was from a lurk hearing that I listened to was 40 PSI.

2258
03:19:21,290 --> 03:19:27,090
Are we looking at what their PSI is currently and how the water takes might affect that pressure?

2259
03:19:32,520 --> 03:19:38,080
Mayor Mayor Protem and council members, thank you for the question, council member Henkel.

2260
03:19:39,840 --> 03:19:46,200
We did a pressure gauge off of Irving Court in a West 154th Avenue.

2261
03:19:46,920 --> 03:19:56,900
And that pressure low reading was 36 PSI. So that is below the 40 minimum. Our standards

2262
03:19:56,900 --> 03:20:03,740
and specs require 20 PSI for fire protection and 20 PSI for single family. So that's

2263
03:20:03,740 --> 03:20:08,720
why the minimum is that 40. So that the current pressure that we tested was on September

2264
03:20:10,280 --> 03:20:18,820
And that was for, except the area of Irving Court in 154th, and it was well below.

2265
03:20:20,190 --> 03:20:21,830
What was well below, 40th?

2266
03:20:21,830 --> 03:20:22,770
It was 36.

2267
03:20:23,430 --> 03:20:24,450
The pressure was 36.

2268
03:20:24,770 --> 03:20:25,830
Two that neighborhood.

2269
03:20:26,030 --> 03:20:26,730
Two that neighborhood.

2270
03:20:27,790 --> 03:20:31,390
So that means that every house has some sort of water pump to raise the PSI levels.

2271
03:20:31,390 --> 03:20:32,090
Is that correct?

2272
03:20:32,750 --> 03:20:35,990
That I do not know how those houses were built.

2273
03:20:39,970 --> 03:20:41,790
That would be a building permit.

2274
03:20:41,790 --> 03:20:45,750
Yeah, is that they already have a low pressure, especially on that west end?

2275
03:20:46,690 --> 03:20:48,290
What I'm hearing from those neighbors over there?

2276
03:20:48,730 --> 03:20:52,410
I would like to know how the tanks would affect that pressure for them.

2277
03:20:52,690 --> 03:20:56,350
If we would actually make it even lower for them.

2278
03:20:59,660 --> 03:21:03,460
Yeah, and we'd like to probably make this a longer answer than that question.

2279
03:21:05,020 --> 03:21:07,260
Because I'm going to get into a little bit more pressure.

2280
03:21:07,260 --> 03:21:13,580
And we have a third-party engineering firm called Arcadia.

2281
03:21:14,520 --> 03:21:19,160
That is not the design engineer, but is our water model engineering firm.

2282
03:21:19,680 --> 03:21:23,360
We had them run the water models on the north area,

2283
03:21:24,820 --> 03:21:29,240
system improvements without the water.

2284
03:21:29,240 --> 03:21:34,000
from the years 24, beginning in 2024 through 2026.

2285
03:21:35,160 --> 03:21:40,520
The water pressure in the areas of Wildgrass,

2286
03:21:42,480 --> 03:21:43,400
McKay Landing,

2287
03:21:45,990 --> 03:21:46,790
Wilcox,

2288
03:21:49,270 --> 03:21:50,190
Spruce Meadows,

2289
03:21:51,310 --> 03:21:57,430
Anthem 24, Anthem Ranch, and the north area of Anthem

2290
03:21:57,430 --> 03:22:01,790
just above Prospect Ridge, all will drop from the

2291
03:22:01,790 --> 03:22:10,110
typical 60 to 80 will drop down to the 40 to 60 range. So all of that area will be influenced

2292
03:22:10,110 --> 03:22:11,130
without the tank.

2293
03:22:14,870 --> 03:22:18,390
So without the tanks, the pressure drops, what happens with the tanks?

2294
03:22:18,790 --> 03:22:20,870
With the tanks, those pressures are restored.

2295
03:22:21,790 --> 03:22:28,410
Two, what? What's that? Two normal operating ranges, which for us is the range for our

2296
03:22:28,410 --> 03:22:31,310
standard specs is between 40 and 125.

2297
03:22:32,030 --> 03:22:37,050
We typically run about 60 to about 110 roughly.

2298
03:22:38,710 --> 03:22:42,350
And so the other pieces that there are two areas,

2299
03:22:42,510 --> 03:22:46,550
Irving Court obviously is under will be under the 40 PSI.

2300
03:22:46,950 --> 03:22:50,010
King Court there will be some under 40 PSI.

2301
03:22:50,170 --> 03:22:53,390
In the Wilcox there will be some under 40.

2302
03:22:53,950 --> 03:22:56,130
Screws metal will also have some under 40.

2303
03:22:57,860 --> 03:23:08,000
And so I guess my direct question is these water tanks are directly supposed to be in assisting that residents in that area.

2304
03:23:08,500 --> 03:23:12,120
They're just worried that their pressure will actually go lower and everyone else is going to go higher.

2305
03:23:12,500 --> 03:23:17,440
So you're in agreement that that particular neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods will also increase.

2306
03:23:18,100 --> 03:23:18,580
Correct.

2307
03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:23,300
The water tanks will improve the pressure throughout the area.

2308
03:23:24,560 --> 03:23:27,640
Okay, and we don't have a measurement exactly on that one.

2309
03:23:27,700 --> 03:23:29,360
You just said, they'll go out of the range.

2310
03:23:29,520 --> 03:23:31,440
Yeah, they'll go back to our normal operating range.

2311
03:23:31,940 --> 03:23:31,980
Okay.

2312
03:23:31,980 --> 03:23:36,440
And as the city continues to grow north, the pressures get worse.

2313
03:23:37,920 --> 03:23:43,000
26 to 28, pretty much all of Wilcox will be under 40.

2314
03:23:43,760 --> 03:23:49,080
We will have one of our north distribution lines that will be hitting max design on our

2315
03:23:49,080 --> 03:23:49,900
feet per second.

2316
03:23:52,460 --> 03:23:54,440
Mr. Roderick, I'm not going to leave that, please.

2317
03:23:54,960 --> 03:23:55,580
What's that?

2318
03:23:55,700 --> 03:23:57,880
Will you explain what it is that you just said?

2319
03:23:58,940 --> 03:24:02,020
There is a North pipeline that comes out of our plant.

2320
03:24:02,280 --> 03:24:05,740
You feed the North area with two basic pipelines.

2321
03:24:06,040 --> 03:24:09,560
One that comes out of the North to Wagras and then across the low.

2322
03:24:10,240 --> 03:24:11,600
That's a 24 inch pipe.

2323
03:24:12,560 --> 03:24:15,340
That will meet the max.

2324
03:24:15,880 --> 03:24:17,820
We'll exceed our five foot per second.

2325
03:24:17,820 --> 03:24:23,120
flow design. So that will hit up to that design,

2326
03:24:23,460 --> 03:24:32,480
contract our criteria between 26 and 28. And then we go a little bit further out to 28 through 30.

2327
03:24:32,780 --> 03:24:39,560
The pipeline along the low will also meet its max design criteria in

2328
03:24:39,560 --> 03:24:45,360
feet per second and also the line along 144th will also hit that max design.

2329
03:24:45,360 --> 03:24:50,620
And that's if we don't have the tanks that's if we do not have the tanks, okay, all right

2330
03:24:51,540 --> 03:24:57,980
Yeah, so speaking of the northern area. I'm just curious if there's been a lot of talk about the non-potable water

2331
03:24:58,900 --> 03:25:02,000
You know if we could separate that if we could put in a different spot

2332
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:05,840
I did already hear the ethylare carrying. I did listen to all of that

2333
03:25:05,840 --> 03:25:10,640
I know we've discussed it before. I'm just curious as we plan into the future

2334
03:25:11,340 --> 03:25:16,640
We've already gone even more north in Birmingham, but we're going to head even more north

2335
03:25:16,640 --> 03:25:17,140
than that.

2336
03:25:17,420 --> 03:25:24,480
So we still have a lot of land, even even east of I-25, across the highway.

2337
03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:28,200
What's the plan for water up there?

2338
03:25:29,640 --> 03:25:33,120
The, these north area tanks would serve that area.

2339
03:25:36,290 --> 03:25:40,850
To what density do we, to build out to 125?

2340
03:25:40,850 --> 03:25:41,910
If I think that's a good idea.

2341
03:25:41,910 --> 03:25:43,310
I think that's a good idea.

2342
03:25:43,310 --> 03:25:43,770
This is a good idea.

2343
03:25:43,850 --> 03:25:43,930
I think that's a good idea.

2344
03:25:44,090 --> 03:25:44,790
Our billed up project?

2345
03:25:45,310 --> 03:25:48,090
Max Population is 125,000.

2346
03:25:48,270 --> 03:25:49,390
That's what we're planning for.

2347
03:25:49,730 --> 03:25:50,630
Okay for that density.

2348
03:25:51,610 --> 03:25:53,070
That's all the questions I have for right now.

2349
03:25:53,410 --> 03:25:53,950
Thank you, staff.

2350
03:25:54,630 --> 03:25:55,270
Thank you.

2351
03:25:55,590 --> 03:25:56,330
Councillor Maynard Cohen.

2352
03:25:57,250 --> 03:25:57,790
Thank you, Mayor.

2353
03:25:59,050 --> 03:26:02,570
I wanted to follow up sort of what Councilmember Hancock was talking about.

2354
03:26:03,050 --> 03:26:05,070
Because this has been planned for a long time.

2355
03:26:05,070 --> 03:26:10,670
I think Council, if I dare speak for my colleagues, approve the concept plan, because the engineering

2356
03:26:10,670 --> 03:26:16,890
seems correct, you know, you naturally put water at the highest elevation. So, in that sense,

2357
03:26:16,970 --> 03:26:21,090
it makes sense. I wanted to branch out beyond that to other factors, because I think it was Mr.

2358
03:26:21,230 --> 03:26:25,950
Matthew's comments that resonated with me that when the Council originally approved this spot,

2359
03:26:26,110 --> 03:26:31,390
they were envisioning one tank that was fully buried, and they did say in their minutes,

2360
03:26:31,390 --> 03:26:33,410
they wanted to preserve that rich.

2361
03:26:34,350 --> 03:26:38,010
And I wanted to clarify, when did we go from one to three?

2362
03:26:38,070 --> 03:26:41,050
What was the factors that prompted that?

2363
03:26:41,190 --> 03:26:42,610
I assume it's growth, obviously,

2364
03:26:42,770 --> 03:26:44,730
but I just like some clarity of when that happened

2365
03:26:44,730 --> 03:26:46,670
and how that decision was made.

2366
03:26:47,750 --> 03:26:49,770
And then also, that lines, what we went from Barry

2367
03:26:49,770 --> 03:26:50,990
to partially buried.

2368
03:26:54,720 --> 03:26:56,900
Thank you, Council Member Cohen, for the question.

2369
03:26:57,220 --> 03:26:58,940
Katie Allen, sitting in County, Engineer.

2370
03:27:00,320 --> 03:27:03,100
So in 2016, we envisioned six million gallons

2371
03:27:03,100 --> 03:27:04,000
of potable water.

2372
03:27:04,000 --> 03:27:09,120
We still have six million gallons of potable water in two, three million gallon tanks.

2373
03:27:10,200 --> 03:27:19,200
The third tank is reused water tank, and that wasn't recommended until 2018, but the reused water

2374
03:27:19,200 --> 03:27:28,320
master plan. The two tanks, two smaller tanks, versus one larger tank, was a recommendation in

2375
03:27:28,320 --> 03:27:36,400
preliminary design report from, I think it was July 2022, so that is the timeline, did

2376
03:27:36,400 --> 03:27:37,380
that answer your question?

2377
03:27:39,120 --> 03:27:44,300
So, it was a recommendation based on population growth that we needed to increase our quantity.

2378
03:27:44,560 --> 03:27:45,940
No, the quantity did not increase.

2379
03:27:45,960 --> 03:27:47,180
The quantity didn't change the three.

2380
03:27:47,220 --> 03:27:48,920
It was just operationally.

2381
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:51,920
Oh, and you asked about very tinks, sorry.

2382
03:27:53,820 --> 03:27:57,100
Yeah, we were originally assuming the tank would be buried.

2383
03:27:57,100 --> 03:28:05,120
And I, we had three options during a preliminary design above grade, above ground, partially

2384
03:28:05,120 --> 03:28:12,200
buried and below ground and presented those options to the city manager with cost estimates.

2385
03:28:13,280 --> 03:28:19,140
And it was a decision to meet in the middle, I guess, to various much as we can, but

2386
03:28:19,140 --> 03:28:20,760
not fully, very, and for cost.

2387
03:28:21,060 --> 03:28:24,380
From an engineering perspective, it could be buried fully.

2388
03:28:24,840 --> 03:28:25,060
Yes.

2389
03:28:25,060 --> 03:28:29,460
And still operate, but at the elevation you want them to operate it.

2390
03:28:30,080 --> 03:28:31,080
It's just a matter of cost.

2391
03:28:31,140 --> 03:28:35,720
And we would have to get those estimates correct, which we don't have right now.

2392
03:28:37,360 --> 03:28:43,060
We have better estimates from April that they're not design level, pricing.

2393
03:28:47,200 --> 03:28:51,000
There's nothing engineering that would prevent us from fully bearing it in your operations.

2394
03:28:51,480 --> 03:28:54,920
I think it would be important to note that we would still need the area of fenced.

2395
03:28:55,260 --> 03:28:55,480
Right.

2396
03:28:55,480 --> 03:29:00,380
But I'm just curious about, originally the plan was to bury it fully, and I know that's a concern.

2397
03:29:01,840 --> 03:29:05,060
Follow up on that in terms of the alternative sites.

2398
03:29:06,880 --> 03:29:11,140
And it was hard to consider after the engineering points to one to think about the second best spot.

2399
03:29:11,460 --> 03:29:14,260
But the second best appears to be site three.

2400
03:29:15,300 --> 03:29:21,140
And there's a wonder if you could quantify for me just so better understand what challenges that would present.

2401
03:29:21,140 --> 03:29:24,360
that if we just went to site three, you know, obviously there are going to be neighbors over there

2402
03:29:24,360 --> 03:29:25,860
who might have something to say about that.

2403
03:29:27,240 --> 03:29:31,660
But the thing that struck out to me was it's 56 feet lower, which sounds like a substantial

2404
03:29:32,280 --> 03:29:35,100
challenge there that we have to elevate them.

2405
03:29:35,420 --> 03:29:41,180
But is there, could you just quantify for me a little bit what time-cost challenge is that

2406
03:29:41,180 --> 03:29:41,560
presents?

2407
03:29:42,700 --> 03:29:42,960
Sure.

2408
03:29:43,160 --> 03:29:48,040
So as I mentioned in the presentation, that is open space, so now instead of less than

2409
03:29:48,040 --> 03:29:53,980
here we'd be looking at more like five acres, four and a half acres, so that would trigger

2410
03:29:53,980 --> 03:29:57,060
the open space change and use process.

2411
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:12,960
So, that's one. Two, we'd be, you know, it's moving closer to diverse metos and different neighborhoods. So, it might have the same neighborhood response, I guess.

2412
03:30:15,580 --> 03:30:22,140
And then, we don't have a design, so I can't quantify construction costs comparison.

2413
03:30:22,960 --> 03:30:27,820
Operationally, it would be bigger pumps to make up the elevation difference.

2414
03:30:27,820 --> 03:30:33,200
How high would they necessarily be? Can you guesstimate if we put it in that spot?

2415
03:30:34,840 --> 03:30:36,840
The elevation of the tanks.

2416
03:30:41,430 --> 03:30:48,110
60 feet lower, so the median elevation. We're talking 53, 90-ish.

2417
03:30:51,090 --> 03:30:54,810
Our engineer Nicole Rachelson with Burns and Mac to elaborate.

2418
03:30:57,880 --> 03:31:03,600
Mayor Prudgen Castle. I'm Nicole Rachelson. I'm the project manager for this project from Brudgen McDonald.

2419
03:31:03,600 --> 03:31:11,600
So I think the question was, at alternative site 3, can we estimate approximately the elevation

2420
03:31:11,600 --> 03:31:12,260
of the tanks?

2421
03:31:13,460 --> 03:31:19,500
So I don't remember off the top of my head what the elevation was at site 3, but in the evaluation

2422
03:31:19,500 --> 03:31:24,300
we are assuming this is still in relatively close proximity to residents.

2423
03:31:24,680 --> 03:31:32,880
We would likely at least at a minimum want to partially bury the tanks, which would mean approximately

2424
03:31:32,880 --> 03:31:41,000
20 to 25 feet below grade. So in addition to that alternative site 3 is much flatter. So

2425
03:31:41,000 --> 03:31:47,940
it would require then extra excavation on top of that for the pump station to maintain the required

2426
03:31:47,940 --> 03:31:53,960
elevation difference between the bottom of the tank and where the pump suction happens to provide

2427
03:31:53,960 --> 03:32:00,220
enough pressure to the pumps. So operationally does that add concern cost to this long-term operation.

2428
03:32:00,220 --> 03:32:15,860
It does, so because the pumps are having to pump an additional 60-ish feet into the system and increases the operation, I think we have it in memo actually, it has the memo, 30-ish percent.

2429
03:32:17,780 --> 03:32:29,480
And then in addition to that, we would require larger pumps, so there would be capital costs in addition to that of not just the pumps, but the variable frequency drives that.

2430
03:32:29,480 --> 03:32:32,640
run the pumps, all the electrical and the structure, what have to be

2431
03:32:33,160 --> 03:32:36,160
absized, the building would likely get a little bit larger.

2432
03:32:37,340 --> 03:32:41,680
So, those are all capital costs to consider, but in terms of long-term impacts

2433
03:32:41,680 --> 03:32:43,340
that those operational costs to be.

2434
03:32:43,440 --> 03:32:48,800
So, if we went to, say, all site three, we would just have to include that it would be a larger

2435
03:32:49,660 --> 03:32:55,180
space of land, used up, and more costs for a bigger pump station, some operational cost,

2436
03:32:55,180 --> 03:33:00,900
increases, and if it would say what we can measure that against the other costs of the

2437
03:33:00,900 --> 03:33:06,420
original site, can you quickly know, wrap up? Because it has been raised by a number of people

2438
03:33:06,420 --> 03:33:11,220
saying, why can't we just go to an industrialized site? And I think to, I think it was part

2439
03:33:11,220 --> 03:33:14,800
of the presentation, all the, quote unquote industrialized sites are at a much lower

2440
03:33:14,800 --> 03:33:21,060
elevation, correct? Correct. We're in this location in that zone, because this is the highest

2441
03:33:21,060 --> 03:33:24,460
innovation and that reduces our costs and makes a better operation.

2442
03:33:26,560 --> 03:33:32,060
So if we did move to the fire station over and over the closer to baseline that would

2443
03:33:32,060 --> 03:33:35,480
be substantial increase in long-term costs in operation costs.

2444
03:33:35,780 --> 03:33:35,800
Okay.

2445
03:33:36,820 --> 03:33:37,280
Thank you.

2446
03:33:37,460 --> 03:33:38,180
That's all for now.

2447
03:33:38,700 --> 03:33:38,900
All right.

2448
03:33:38,980 --> 03:33:39,800
Thank you.

2449
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:40,620
Mayor Potemges.

2450
03:33:41,000 --> 03:33:41,520
Mayor.

2451
03:33:41,880 --> 03:33:42,600
If I may.

2452
03:33:42,680 --> 03:33:46,100
If you follow up on your question on operation costs.

2453
03:33:46,700 --> 03:33:47,820
Just for an example.

2454
03:33:48,240 --> 03:33:50,400
Extra 100 feet of pumping elevation.

2455
03:33:50,400 --> 03:33:54,400
would increase our electrical cost 150 percent.

2456
03:33:58,720 --> 03:34:00,040
May a part-time GZR ski.

2457
03:34:00,360 --> 03:34:01,080
Thank you.

2458
03:34:01,600 --> 03:34:05,260
I do want to start by just saying I do appreciate all the citizens that come out tonight.

2459
03:34:05,960 --> 03:34:08,140
I really did appreciate the young kids that we're here.

2460
03:34:08,260 --> 03:34:10,060
I can never get my kids to come here.

2461
03:34:10,480 --> 03:34:13,080
I've been on Council for eight years and they won't even come here and watch me.

2462
03:34:15,040 --> 03:34:18,420
And I also did the young gentlemen that unfortunately left,

2463
03:34:18,720 --> 03:34:21,540
I was really impressed by that as well.

2464
03:34:21,540 --> 03:34:25,780
And I do want everyone to make sure, no matter how this turns out tonight, definitely be sure

2465
03:34:25,780 --> 03:34:30,340
that being here tonight is huge, and your voices are being heard when we're at the other.

2466
03:34:31,240 --> 03:34:34,700
So I want you to, you know, rest assured of that, no matter how this turns out.

2467
03:34:36,360 --> 03:34:40,520
I did have questions regarding the, the absolute, I do appreciate it through the questions

2468
03:34:40,520 --> 03:34:41,720
by council member Cohen.

2469
03:34:41,940 --> 03:34:44,220
I had questions on site three.

2470
03:34:44,400 --> 03:34:48,740
Can you just, this is very, this is verified for me, site three, where is it actually located?

2471
03:34:48,740 --> 03:34:58,020
And I got a sort of a, just a bit on the map, but it's going to make sure, straight on the corner of, so, federal looks like in a 150-second or something.

2472
03:34:58,960 --> 03:35:00,140
That's what I see in it.

2473
03:35:00,420 --> 03:35:01,220
Is it on that corner?

2474
03:35:02,440 --> 03:35:05,940
Just east of the existing water tower that's there?

2475
03:35:10,400 --> 03:35:13,000
Yes, correct east of the existing water tower.

2476
03:35:14,380 --> 03:35:15,840
So north of 150-second.

2477
03:35:15,880 --> 03:35:16,420
Right, right.

2478
03:35:16,500 --> 03:35:16,580
Right, right.

2479
03:35:19,180 --> 03:35:19,980
Right, right.

2480
03:35:21,020 --> 03:35:26,660
And I guess my takeaway from what I heard on the answer just now was, you know, functionally

2481
03:35:26,660 --> 03:35:32,000
that site could work, but there, you know, there are obviously maybe some neighbors over there

2482
03:35:32,000 --> 03:35:33,660
that are going to be potentially upset.

2483
03:35:34,560 --> 03:35:40,160
And then ultimately it comes down to cost and it sounds like you're not sure at this point,

2484
03:35:40,180 --> 03:35:42,300
you know, how much that would cost additionally.

2485
03:35:43,540 --> 03:35:47,300
And I guess I'm hearing the same thing with the, you know, partially buried versus buried.

2486
03:35:47,300 --> 03:35:49,560
And then we talked about this few months back,

2487
03:35:49,740 --> 03:35:51,300
again, it sounds like it really comes down to costs.

2488
03:35:52,040 --> 03:35:54,520
So it's my understanding, and if I'm wrong,

2489
03:35:54,840 --> 03:35:56,920
definitely let me know on this,

2490
03:35:56,980 --> 03:35:59,860
trying to figure out who pays for this extra cost,

2491
03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:01,480
if we went to one of these other routes.

2492
03:36:01,960 --> 03:36:05,360
So I saw that it's coming from the licensing fees

2493
03:36:05,360 --> 03:36:06,440
for future development.

2494
03:36:06,580 --> 03:36:07,300
Is that accurate?

2495
03:36:09,400 --> 03:36:09,760
Then

2496
03:36:20,250 --> 03:36:22,270
looking for Ms. Richie, but that is correct.

2497
03:36:22,730 --> 03:36:26,250
That's our understanding that this developer

2498
03:36:26,250 --> 03:36:29,770
or tap fees, license fees, pays for our new infrastructure.

2499
03:36:33,410 --> 03:36:40,530
So it's a little more complicated to a little more complicated than that.

2500
03:36:41,290 --> 03:36:46,010
And part of that is the decisions that have been made over the last decade with regards

2501
03:36:46,010 --> 03:36:50,210
to growth from residential and commercial are tapping the system.

2502
03:36:51,230 --> 03:36:56,230
So when we're completely segregating out, that's why when we look at

2503
03:36:56,230 --> 03:37:03,070
the Enterprise Fund last week, that it's a comprehensive approach to be able to say, one of

2504
03:37:03,070 --> 03:37:08,210
the reasons that we're in the shape that we're in with regards to the Enterprise Funds

2505
03:37:08,210 --> 03:37:15,990
is because of the heavily reliant being heavily reliant on those tapfees, and not having

2506
03:37:15,990 --> 03:37:25,190
that combination of existing services and levels and growth, because if we continue to say,

2507
03:37:25,190 --> 03:37:28,430
OK, on those tap fees, growth is going to pay its own way.

2508
03:37:28,650 --> 03:37:30,330
I mean, we continue to have this conversation.

2509
03:37:30,610 --> 03:37:31,750
That is a misnomer.

2510
03:37:33,030 --> 03:37:38,730
It simply doesn't make sense then, and it certainly

2511
03:37:38,730 --> 03:37:39,830
doesn't make sense now.

2512
03:37:40,650 --> 03:37:47,330
So the bottom line is if there is the increases that we're

2513
03:37:47,330 --> 03:37:51,990
building into the budget for October, for the enterprise funds,

2514
03:37:51,990 --> 03:38:01,590
includes the tank. If those prices change, those overall fees for each one of those other components

2515
03:38:01,590 --> 03:38:03,730
will also change.

2516
03:38:04,290 --> 03:38:07,330
So to say, it's more than just the tap fees in.

2517
03:38:07,370 --> 03:38:07,630
Sure.

2518
03:38:09,290 --> 03:38:11,030
And what other components are those?

2519
03:38:12,440 --> 03:38:14,160
Let's try to figure who pays for this.

2520
03:38:17,190 --> 03:38:19,710
Every single resident is going to pay for this.

2521
03:38:19,710 --> 03:38:25,650
Okay, so it's that just coming from the is it is a majority if you come in from the increase to a fees

2522
03:38:26,990 --> 03:38:32,810
You can't you can't know no, no, no, we I I appreciate working through it

2523
03:38:32,810 --> 03:38:39,050
Similar to what we talked about last week when we have those tap fees in order for a development to actually pay itself

2524
03:38:39,810 --> 03:38:43,970
I'm sorry to pay its own way we'd have to increase tap fees a thousand percent

2525
03:38:45,510 --> 03:38:47,870
Which means we'd have absolutely no development

2526
03:38:49,500 --> 03:38:52,480
So someone say, geez, that's great.

2527
03:38:55,830 --> 03:38:58,390
Others would say you can't pick and choose, right?

2528
03:38:58,730 --> 03:39:00,090
Whether it's residential or commercial.

2529
03:39:01,890 --> 03:39:04,630
So you squeeze the bubble, it's going to come out

2530
03:39:04,630 --> 03:39:06,310
in one direction or the other.

2531
03:39:07,030 --> 03:39:14,670
So again, we have to get into the black from a utility

2532
03:39:14,670 --> 03:39:17,710
perspective, but we aren't going to be

2533
03:39:17,710 --> 03:39:21,870
charge enough for a tap fee in order to compensate for

2534
03:39:24,370 --> 03:39:26,750
these tanks or for any modifications

2535
03:39:26,750 --> 03:39:31,530
with regards to bearing them or additional operational costs.

2536
03:39:33,740 --> 03:39:36,420
I guess that makes sense to me because I was trying to figure out how many additional

2537
03:39:36,420 --> 03:39:40,380
10 fees are we going to have and how is that going to cover the millions of dollars of

2538
03:39:40,380 --> 03:39:41,200
a share expenses.

2539
03:39:42,120 --> 03:39:46,880
And of course, if that's coming from the 10 fees, that's going to be covered by the developers

2540
03:39:46,880 --> 03:39:52,220
with them, we'll pass that on to the people that are about purchasing their homes, I'm assuming.

2541
03:39:52,920 --> 03:39:59,280
Purchasing the homes, and then there's the capacity perspective from those top fees, right,

2542
03:39:59,280 --> 03:40:04,020
which is why it's so important to be saying how much does it cost to develop here?

2543
03:40:04,340 --> 03:40:06,180
And again, I'm talking about less residential.

2544
03:40:08,800 --> 03:40:15,980
The mayor and I, we're having communications earlier about the developments that have are in the pipeline now.

2545
03:40:15,980 --> 03:40:24,300
So, we're kind of coming back to Mr. Ruts, and I don't think it was quite clear enough.

2546
03:40:24,960 --> 03:40:28,920
It's clear to me because we continue to have these conversations, but for the community in council,

2547
03:40:30,240 --> 03:40:37,440
what happens when you don't have that water pressure, it's not just, it's an issue when you're taking a shower,

2548
03:40:37,960 --> 03:40:40,960
or it's an issue when it's an issue for our infrastructure.

2549
03:40:40,960 --> 03:40:49,920
When you have builds up a pressure, when you have additional users coming on to the system, it busts

2550
03:40:49,920 --> 03:40:53,620
those long overdue maintenance pipes.

2551
03:40:54,600 --> 03:41:02,080
So it behooves us to be able to have adequate flow from point A to point B. When we're talking

2552
03:41:02,080 --> 03:41:08,760
about what the price is for those tap fees, if we tap that out, no pun intended.

2553
03:41:11,640 --> 03:41:19,360
What happens is it becomes excruciatingly difficult to have those developments during the pipeline

2554
03:41:20,040 --> 03:41:27,780
now, the residential and the commercial, the commercial that's coming on board up there and

2555
03:41:29,950 --> 03:41:35,690
Those are ongoing conversations about those that have already paid for the tap fees.

2556
03:41:36,670 --> 03:41:39,390
So we have some of those big commercial developments.

2557
03:41:40,790 --> 03:41:45,430
The proposed IKEA is coming, excuse me.

2558
03:41:46,530 --> 03:41:49,970
And we have other commercial development that

2559
03:41:53,620 --> 03:41:57,700
the PSI is going to continue to be an ongoing

2560
03:41:57,700 --> 03:42:04,640
issue as well as what the long term approaches for those tanks, the reservoirs, and the service

2561
03:42:04,640 --> 03:42:05,440
delivery levels.

2562
03:42:06,320 --> 03:42:11,940
So now that's why I try to simplify this, if I understand it, what I am hearing is right

2563
03:42:11,940 --> 03:42:17,440
now we have a current budget for our water, you know, this has been discussed, revery recently.

2564
03:42:18,940 --> 03:42:24,720
And we are likely going to be five facing increases as individuals, as individuals, as

2565
03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:31,080
whole cells. As you mentioned, the current water rates have not been paying for themselves over

2566
03:42:31,080 --> 03:42:40,340
a long period of time. If we go ahead and choose a different option, whether it's option 3,

2567
03:42:40,720 --> 03:42:45,760
or the bearing of the tanks, that's going to cost more money one way or the other, sounds like

2568
03:42:46,780 --> 03:42:52,040
we're not sure how much. That's going to blow the budget out, it sounds like, and then we're going

2569
03:42:52,040 --> 03:42:55,200
have to go back, you're going to find the money from somewhere, whether it's coming from

2570
03:42:55,200 --> 03:43:00,240
tap fees or whether that's an additional increase to individual water rates, commercial

2571
03:43:00,240 --> 03:43:07,220
and residential. Is that a summary? Yes. Okay. Well, thank you. Excuse me, I understand you

2572
03:43:07,220 --> 03:43:12,740
know how this would play out. A couple other quick questions. There's just things that I

2573
03:43:12,740 --> 03:43:17,100
heard from some of the residents. The one thing that did bug me a little bit, I know there's

2574
03:43:17,100 --> 03:43:21,940
a big concern. It seems like over due diligence. And I feel like reading the stuff that

2575
03:43:21,940 --> 03:43:24,200
that I've seen in our packet and hearing presentations

2576
03:43:24,200 --> 03:43:26,760
that the city did do significant due diligence on this project.

2577
03:43:27,040 --> 03:43:29,740
So I'm just kind of concerned and confused

2578
03:43:29,740 --> 03:43:31,160
why there was a disconnect there.

2579
03:43:31,340 --> 03:43:32,760
I'm not sure if there's a communication issue

2580
03:43:32,760 --> 03:43:36,100
with the residents when I get information out.

2581
03:43:36,600 --> 03:43:37,480
And I don't think this is a question.

2582
03:43:37,660 --> 03:43:39,040
I'm not sure you have any answer to this.

2583
03:43:39,500 --> 03:43:42,880
But it is something that struck me as concerning.

2584
03:43:44,480 --> 03:43:47,760
And I did hear something about citizens being required

2585
03:43:47,760 --> 03:43:50,160
to sign waivers when they purchase their homes

2586
03:43:50,160 --> 03:43:50,960
was that accurate?

2587
03:43:51,740 --> 03:43:52,700
Did we have waver the man?

2588
03:43:52,900 --> 03:43:56,120
And then this may have been from builders that we're throwing some out of the book, but

2589
03:43:56,120 --> 03:43:59,340
as a city, did we have waver is it waver requiring Ms. Burt and Zeddy?

2590
03:44:00,360 --> 03:44:01,300
Thank you, Mayor Pertem.

2591
03:44:02,140 --> 03:44:07,260
So the waiver, I believe that they were talking about was also called Exhibit F. Exhibit

2592
03:44:07,260 --> 03:44:12,180
F was attached to the subdivision improvement agreement when anthem filing number 24 was originally

2593
03:44:12,180 --> 03:44:12,800
approved.

2594
03:44:13,040 --> 03:44:18,060
And it was the requirement that when the builders moved forward that the builder provided

2595
03:44:18,060 --> 03:44:21,520
then was intended to provide a notification to the buyers.

2596
03:44:22,640 --> 03:44:26,100
And these notifications are often added

2597
03:44:26,100 --> 03:44:27,920
to subdivision improvement agreements.

2598
03:44:28,540 --> 03:44:30,900
Bermfield staff does not have a way to verify

2599
03:44:30,900 --> 03:44:31,880
that those are completed.

2600
03:44:31,880 --> 03:44:33,360
These are private transactions

2601
03:44:33,760 --> 03:44:37,200
that are completed between the builder and the future purchaser.

2602
03:44:38,900 --> 03:44:40,500
So it was intended.

2603
03:44:40,900 --> 03:44:43,780
They provided exhibit F, which included some language.

2604
03:44:43,980 --> 03:44:45,500
I believe it was read here tonight,

2605
03:44:45,500 --> 03:44:52,740
and required that the buyer's sign exhibit F as part of their documents to verify that they had received it.

2606
03:44:52,900 --> 03:44:54,680
That wasn't something that was coming from the city though, right?

2607
03:44:54,740 --> 03:44:55,900
That that wasn't one of our documents.

2608
03:44:56,300 --> 03:44:59,840
It wasn't our document, but it was included in the subdivision improvement.

2609
03:45:02,260 --> 03:45:13,780
So the sub-division improvement agreement specified that the builders would need to have disclosure, a waiver given to the, is really disclosure, I guess, a notice to the, to be honest.

2610
03:45:14,120 --> 03:45:14,540
That's correct.

2611
03:45:14,540 --> 03:45:18,200
and a draft of it was included in the signed SIA.

2612
03:45:20,240 --> 03:45:27,290
And then I heard a question about if there was a rupture of a tank,

2613
03:45:27,510 --> 03:45:27,910
what would happen?

2614
03:45:28,150 --> 03:45:31,170
I mean, or a line, what does that ever happen?

2615
03:45:31,570 --> 03:45:32,870
Is that anything possible?

2616
03:45:33,810 --> 03:45:34,990
Is that a real risk?

2617
03:45:35,350 --> 03:45:37,050
Is there a plan if they does happen?

2618
03:45:39,080 --> 03:45:39,620
There are water tanks.

2619
03:45:39,780 --> 03:45:41,860
I know across the country in a very old ones.

2620
03:45:42,940 --> 03:45:45,660
So, again, I'm happy to address that one.

2621
03:45:45,660 --> 03:45:46,420
So,

2622
03:45:50,240 --> 03:45:56,900
our tanks are designed to rigorous engineering standards to prevent ruptures from happening.

2623
03:45:58,480 --> 03:46:02,760
Some examples are we designed for specific climate.

2624
03:46:03,560 --> 03:46:07,280
We designed for specific seismic activity in the area.

2625
03:46:07,880 --> 03:46:17,260
We also, before our design, have a geotechnical investigation completed to help us understand the soils and what we are building.

2626
03:46:17,260 --> 03:46:24,220
the structure in so that we can, again, design properly for the concrete structure to withstand

2627
03:46:24,220 --> 03:46:29,800
the loads from the soil, the loads from the water, the settlement expected in the area.

2628
03:46:30,060 --> 03:46:35,980
One example of that is that all these structures are built on what are called drill shafts,

2629
03:46:36,180 --> 03:46:44,540
so basically super deep cylindrical support structures so that they don't move so that they don't

2630
03:46:44,540 --> 03:46:54,520
So that they withstand climate shifting around the loads, the pressures, all that typical

2631
03:46:54,520 --> 03:47:00,320
lifespan for a tank like this is somewhere on the order of 75 to 100 years.

2632
03:47:01,340 --> 03:47:08,560
So the only other thing I could address in terms of safety measures is that if there were ever

2633
03:47:08,560 --> 03:47:19,560
of currents where the tank was being filled and the proper measures when the tank was at its

2634
03:47:19,560 --> 03:47:28,680
maximum fill height did not work. There is an overflow pipe that is completely free of mechanics.

2635
03:47:29,200 --> 03:47:35,660
So it just happens automatically when the level on a tank reaches a certain height goes through a pipe

2636
03:47:35,660 --> 03:47:42,460
to Sienna Resvore. So in the event that there was ever a failure in the other fail

2637
03:47:42,460 --> 03:47:47,960
safes that we design into how the pump station operates and how the fill and draw works

2638
03:47:47,960 --> 03:47:51,180
on the tank. There's that additional safety factor there as well.

2639
03:47:51,620 --> 03:47:56,940
Okay, thank you. Last quick question. There's a comment that Denver regularly berries their tanks

2640
03:47:56,940 --> 03:48:02,300
is that accurate? Is this sort of a standard now? Or is it just sort of something that they do

2641
03:48:03,520 --> 03:48:07,780
I wouldn't say that it's a standard, I think it's a decision that every utility makes based

2642
03:48:08,380 --> 03:48:12,020
on the site, the location, the budget available, and the hydraulics.

2643
03:48:12,680 --> 03:48:12,740
All right.

2644
03:48:13,040 --> 03:48:13,800
Thank you.

2645
03:48:14,200 --> 03:48:14,580
Thank you.

2646
03:48:15,180 --> 03:48:16,920
Council Member Marshallsson.

2647
03:48:17,200 --> 03:48:17,740
Thank you, Mayor.

2648
03:48:20,520 --> 03:48:21,460
One question for all of them.

2649
03:48:21,680 --> 03:48:21,920
I can't.

2650
03:48:23,160 --> 03:48:23,460
Mayor.

2651
03:48:23,460 --> 03:48:23,700
Mayor.

2652
03:48:23,900 --> 03:48:24,200
Protemster.

2653
03:48:24,600 --> 03:48:24,680
Yes.

2654
03:48:26,080 --> 03:48:26,560
Comments.

2655
03:48:26,780 --> 03:48:28,060
Questions on the tap.

2656
03:48:28,640 --> 03:48:28,740
Sure.

2657
03:48:28,740 --> 03:48:29,280
everything.

2658
03:48:30,860 --> 03:48:34,820
Monitoring from the budget discussions is that this is a CIP project.

2659
03:48:36,100 --> 03:48:41,480
And CIP projects are paid for from the tap fees versus operation from the rates.

2660
03:48:42,500 --> 03:48:43,420
Is that correct?

2661
03:48:44,300 --> 03:48:44,940
It is.

2662
03:48:45,240 --> 03:48:48,960
And we don't like, it's not best practice to mingle them.

2663
03:48:49,760 --> 03:48:50,320
It is not.

2664
03:48:50,780 --> 03:48:57,820
So if this project increase in cost for whatever reason, it already has.

2665
03:48:57,820 --> 03:49:01,380
is now it's 80, because of engineering and everything else.

2666
03:49:01,720 --> 03:49:04,380
Because of the, yeah, primarily it was because of the phase

2667
03:49:04,380 --> 03:49:05,180
of the design.

2668
03:49:07,000 --> 03:49:10,980
So that increased cost, whatever it is, say this project

2669
03:49:10,980 --> 03:49:12,480
went up another 40 million.

2670
03:49:13,400 --> 03:49:16,820
That comes out of the CIP rates, the tap fees, right?

2671
03:49:16,820 --> 03:49:19,140
So we'd have to just the tap fees going forward

2672
03:49:19,140 --> 03:49:21,080
in the future to make up for this.

2673
03:49:24,000 --> 03:49:25,740
And how much, of course, would be up for discussion later,

2674
03:49:27,200 --> 03:49:27,780
but yes.

2675
03:49:32,320 --> 03:49:34,040
We went through the study session, and I was one

2676
03:49:34,040 --> 03:49:35,740
of the ones that indicated.

2677
03:49:36,360 --> 03:49:39,180
In Councilor Marshall's, so to clarify,

2678
03:49:40,280 --> 03:49:42,860
so we have the two, so we have the three different buckets

2679
03:49:42,860 --> 03:49:44,260
that we've talked about last week,

2680
03:49:44,380 --> 03:49:46,200
so it's all under the enterprise funds.

2681
03:49:47,080 --> 03:49:48,980
Three different buckets, each one of those buckets

2682
03:49:49,840 --> 03:49:53,160
has the CIP, it has capital, and then it has operations.

2683
03:49:54,180 --> 03:49:56,600
Right, so when you talk about not mingling,

2684
03:49:56,720 --> 03:49:58,720
we're not only talking about not mingling the buckets,

2685
03:49:59,160 --> 03:50:02,840
we're also talking about not co-mingling the CIP

2686
03:50:02,840 --> 03:50:06,380
in the operations pieces, which are each funded by different sources.

2687
03:50:07,520 --> 03:50:15,440
So in order to build design or ongoing maintenance,

2688
03:50:16,040 --> 03:50:19,020
would come out of that same bucket, but funded differently.

2689
03:50:21,860 --> 03:50:24,560
So I just have some questions about the specifics of this.

2690
03:50:24,560 --> 03:50:24,900
This is right.

2691
03:50:24,920 --> 03:50:28,840
You mentioned that the additional, for each additional 100 feet,

2692
03:50:28,980 --> 03:50:31,240
we're talking about 150% increase in electricity.

2693
03:50:31,820 --> 03:50:35,300
do we have an estimate of what the cost of that is? Do we have any idea?

2694
03:50:45,010 --> 03:50:49,350
I do not have that with me tonight. I'll have to get back to you with that.

2695
03:50:49,750 --> 03:50:55,270
And then it's been mentioned that the current tank up there, who owns that?

2696
03:50:56,510 --> 03:51:01,910
And did we explore buying it, tearing it down and putting one or more of these tanks on that site?

2697
03:51:02,530 --> 03:51:05,130
Current tank is owned by Mile High Water District.

2698
03:51:05,770 --> 03:51:12,530
I was built somewhere, we're estimated somewhere in 1970s, it is a still tank.

2699
03:51:15,850 --> 03:51:22,730
So we have conversations about the tank itself but not about purchasing at this point.

2700
03:51:22,890 --> 03:51:24,590
I know the size of a lot that that's on.

2701
03:51:24,950 --> 03:51:29,170
I don't know the size of a lot that it is on, it's roughly about a 2 million gallon tank.

2702
03:51:29,990 --> 03:51:33,830
What's it usually smaller than the significantly smaller than what we need?

2703
03:51:33,830 --> 03:51:41,590
Council Member Marshalls, and that was one of our very first outreach and engagement was

2704
03:51:41,590 --> 03:51:47,510
can we repurpose it? What would it look like in order to, and I know that there's communication

2705
03:51:47,510 --> 03:51:53,210
out there that it's not in their best interest to help us do anything because they're making

2706
03:51:53,210 --> 03:52:03,030
so much money on the cell towers. I guess it's a relative term.

2707
03:52:04,950 --> 03:52:13,930
But again, it's been empty for 10 years, and it's significantly smaller than what we are looking for.

2708
03:52:15,010 --> 03:52:22,230
So again, all of those kind of part of that due diligence is to outreach and gauge, make that call.

2709
03:52:23,130 --> 03:52:29,030
Certainly, we were hoping that the response would have been different.

2710
03:52:31,150 --> 03:52:37,570
And then on the alternative sites, I know questions have been asked about 2 and 3, but those

2711
03:52:37,570 --> 03:52:42,410
are open space that likely require ballot measures that might are

2712
03:52:44,900 --> 03:52:44,900
standing.

2713
03:52:45,480 --> 03:52:54,440
Ms. Allen, potential ballot measure, if in fact some other steps were taken, Ms. Allen

2714
03:52:54,440 --> 03:52:56,260
walk us through that one more time if you would please.

2715
03:52:57,280 --> 03:53:04,180
I will try. I would like Kristen Pritz to correct me if I get it wrong. My understanding

2716
03:53:04,180 --> 03:53:10,220
from reading the charter council can approve a change of use by resolution. Then there's

2717
03:53:10,220 --> 03:53:16,960
a 90-day waiting period. If a petition is filed in that 90-day waiting period, then my

2718
03:53:16,960 --> 03:53:19,100
understanding is it goes to ballot.

2719
03:53:19,740 --> 03:53:21,640
Those are just one person can file a petition?

2720
03:53:21,640 --> 03:53:25,420
Would you come up and clarify for us, please?

2721
03:53:37,410 --> 03:53:39,790
A Christian Pritz Director of Open Space and Trails.

2722
03:53:40,690 --> 03:53:44,910
So I will look to Nancy Rogers, our city and county attorney to always correct me.

2723
03:53:45,770 --> 03:53:51,670
But I believe there is an opportunity if a petition is filed that the council could reconsider.

2724
03:53:52,750 --> 03:53:57,050
Their decision and perhaps change that decision.

2725
03:53:57,050 --> 03:54:05,810
But if it's not done, then there would be a vote and that would be of our residents here in Brazil.

2726
03:54:06,290 --> 03:54:06,990
So that would delay.

2727
03:54:07,110 --> 03:54:09,610
If a vote was, it would delay the projects significantly.

2728
03:54:11,030 --> 03:54:19,410
Nancy, does, I guess the question is, is it only one person has to file or is it a certain number of signatures or how does that work?

2729
03:54:19,470 --> 03:54:20,830
It's a certain number of signatures.

2730
03:54:20,830 --> 03:54:35,570
It's a petition signed by the registered electors equal to a amount of at least 10% of the total voters who cast ballots in the prior municipal elections, so you need to have a petition of a certain amount and our clerk's office would help get that amount.

2731
03:54:38,830 --> 03:54:42,270
And then because of that, I actually have a question about site four.

2732
03:54:43,270 --> 03:54:51,390
Is it my understanding that that is right adjacent to our current public work facility on 144th?

2733
03:54:54,840 --> 03:54:56,880
You said it was a broomphold on the land,

2734
03:55:00,300 --> 03:55:00,380
right?

2735
03:55:01,220 --> 03:55:02,920
So it's part of the hoop's property.

2736
03:55:04,060 --> 03:55:07,880
The new municipal shops are right on 144th.

2737
03:55:09,140 --> 03:55:12,540
I don't know how many hundred feet north of that it would be, but it would be north of

2738
03:55:12,540 --> 03:55:20,240
community ditch, just south of Silver Leaf, because that property is pretty long, north

2739
03:55:21,000 --> 03:55:21,480
southways.

2740
03:55:22,700 --> 03:55:22,900
Okay.

2741
03:55:23,180 --> 03:55:26,800
If we can put the presentation of, I can do better than Armway.

2742
03:55:26,800 --> 03:55:32,080
But South of the current trial selection slide back up, please.

2743
03:55:32,280 --> 03:55:35,120
Let me give you a slide number.

2744
03:55:35,540 --> 03:55:42,120
I guess my question is, since that city on land and it seems like it's farther away from residents.

2745
03:55:43,340 --> 03:55:51,540
Was it explored to put that one fully above ground or even putting it on stillts like this jewel has mentioned in the past?

2746
03:55:52,340 --> 03:55:53,420
No, it was not.

2747
03:55:53,420 --> 03:56:04,310
Okay, so we would have an estimate of how much that would save or cost or the issue of the site for is that it's

2748
03:56:05,190 --> 03:56:10,570
right in line with the water treatment plan. It would be filled right off the 24 inch transmission main.

2749
03:56:11,750 --> 03:56:23,670
That is not best practice because it's not isolated from the system. It would cause more risk to the system and I would refer to Nicole for more information on that.

2750
03:56:23,670 --> 03:56:28,190
that was system hydraulics, why is the least favorable spot?

2751
03:56:28,350 --> 03:56:29,850
There would be a way to avoid that.

2752
03:56:29,930 --> 03:56:32,090
I mean, given that it's right, it seems like since it's right,

2753
03:56:32,610 --> 03:56:35,410
in my layman's turn, thoughts is right next to the treatment plant.

2754
03:56:35,870 --> 03:56:39,370
So it's closer to the source, so it would be easier to fill.

2755
03:56:43,090 --> 03:56:46,130
So you are correct that it would be easier to fill, since it's

2756
03:56:46,130 --> 03:56:47,410
right next to the treatment plant.

2757
03:56:47,990 --> 03:56:51,110
There does come with some operational challenges with that as well.

2758
03:56:51,110 --> 03:56:56,690
They have to very precisely operate the fill and drop the tank to prevent the overfilling.

2759
03:56:57,450 --> 03:57:07,330
But the larger concern here is the direct connection to that 24-inch line because it creates a single point of failure within the system.

2760
03:57:08,070 --> 03:57:15,310
So if any disruption to that 24-inch line does occur, it prevents delivering water to the entire northern portion of the system.

2761
03:57:15,310 --> 03:57:23,130
So, and it is required for a tank in that location to be directed to that line in order for a to operate properly.

2762
03:57:24,510 --> 03:57:29,930
So, with site for all other things considered that was really, I think the biggest drawback.

2763
03:57:30,170 --> 03:57:31,310
Okay, thank you.

2764
03:57:32,250 --> 03:57:34,410
On our current current tank, the current site,

2765
03:57:34,550 --> 03:57:41,570
I know I'd asked the question in email from staff last week about what the cost savings would be if we put it fully above ground.

2766
03:57:41,570 --> 03:57:48,330
Do we know we have a cost estimate of how much we would decently cost that we bury it fully?

2767
03:57:48,930 --> 03:57:58,540
I know we would save $7 million if we put the graph up around versus partially buried, but do we know the current estimate to fully bury it?

2768
03:58:04,920 --> 03:58:11,400
Yeah, it's also pretty close to 7 million higher than the current one.

2769
03:58:12,260 --> 03:58:15,280
But we still have to have fences and some correct.

2770
03:58:15,740 --> 03:58:26,880
And this cost estimate, let me, so this was from April, so it's more recent than what was presented in January, but we don't have plans so it's still an estimate.

2771
03:58:28,060 --> 03:58:30,620
Okay, and then two last questions.

2772
03:58:32,280 --> 03:58:44,220
One, in my email correspondence with staff, it was estimated that if we made a condition for approval on this particular STP, it would likely be about a three to five month delay.

2773
03:58:45,960 --> 03:58:54,680
If, instead, Council voted to deny this thing and say, Council designed it and wanted to do a different site.

2774
03:58:55,780 --> 03:58:57,340
What kind of delay would that cause?

2775
03:58:58,080 --> 03:58:58,700
Do we have an estimate?

2776
03:59:02,970 --> 03:59:11,650
Council member, so if we were to move away from this particular site, we would need to start the development review process over.

2777
03:59:12,110 --> 03:59:17,850
If you'll recall, the neighborhood meeting was done around, I think, was the end of June,

2778
03:59:17,930 --> 03:59:26,550
ish 2022 and we are in September 2023 and I think that would be a good estimate for impact

2779
03:59:26,550 --> 03:59:27,390
on time frame.

2780
03:59:27,890 --> 03:59:28,550
And what is it currently?

2781
03:59:28,670 --> 03:59:31,990
If we approve the site, what is it currently related to go online?

2782
03:59:43,600 --> 03:59:48,000
Council Member Marshallsson, in my presentation, I said it would be online spring, 2026.

2783
03:59:48,780 --> 03:59:53,280
So if we delayed another year, year and a half it would be 20, 7, 28.

2784
03:59:54,500 --> 03:59:57,880
Correct, or 27 or later than later in 20, 27?

2785
03:59:58,380 --> 03:59:59,980
Do we have a ability to...

2786
04:00:00,240 --> 04:00:09,140
Fix the water pressure issue that residents are seeing now, pending this being built, is our way to up the pressure in some way.

2787
04:00:09,920 --> 04:00:19,190
No. And that's really the

2788
04:00:21,850 --> 04:00:25,690
point of the project. We're all fully aware of how difficult this is.

2789
04:00:25,690 --> 04:00:35,190
And the bringing it online in 2026 corresponds with the approvals that are already in the pipeline for new development that's coming on.

2790
04:00:35,350 --> 04:00:52,170
So this isn't, this isn't, again, this isn't only for new development, this is for current and as new comes online, that current will continue to decrease.

2791
04:00:54,530 --> 04:01:22,360
So it's Mr. Ratt clarify for me. What is in the, what is in the existing pipeline, again from a timing perspective, how much latitude is there for a 24 say 18 to 24 month delay? I don't want to say worst case scenario and I don't want to say best case scenario.

2792
04:01:22,360 --> 04:01:30,600
we all know best case scenarios never happened, but the interim of what can be expected during

2793
04:01:30,600 --> 04:01:32,080
that time frame.

2794
04:01:35,920 --> 04:01:41,260
Again, Ken Ratt, Director of Public Works. According to the water model

2795
04:01:41,260 --> 04:01:54,240
that our KDS ran for is beginning in 2026, parts of Anthem 24 will be below the 40 PSI,

2796
04:01:54,240 --> 04:01:58,520
which means they may not have enough PSI for fire protection.

2797
04:02:00,060 --> 04:02:02,900
That will also include Wilcox

2798
04:02:05,490 --> 04:02:06,630
spruce metal.

2799
04:02:07,770 --> 04:02:10,850
All of those will drop below the 40 PSI pieces of those.

2800
04:02:11,230 --> 04:02:15,630
It also will are 24 inch line from the water plant up to wild grass.

2801
04:02:15,890 --> 04:02:18,470
That also serves the north area to low.

2802
04:02:19,170 --> 04:02:23,590
It will also be at its max design in a feet per second.

2803
04:02:25,350 --> 04:02:28,810
along with the other drops and pressures and all the other neighborhoods.

2804
04:02:29,690 --> 04:02:38,890
So as we delay those project, obviously more and more of the system becomes where we

2805
04:02:38,890 --> 04:02:42,570
can't meet fire flow protection and single family, PSI.

2806
04:02:47,290 --> 04:02:49,450
Thank you very much, Council Member Ward.

2807
04:02:49,910 --> 04:02:50,450
Thank you, Mayor.

2808
04:02:52,490 --> 04:02:55,910
Miss Allen, I think this question is probably the best for you to answer.

2809
04:02:55,910 --> 04:03:00,810
Can you go over why exactly if we were to fully bury the tanks?

2810
04:03:01,830 --> 04:03:03,890
The parcel was still have to be fenced in?

2811
04:03:11,860 --> 04:03:15,620
There is, it's called America's Water Infrastructure Act,

2812
04:03:16,360 --> 04:03:19,360
which was put into place in 2018 after there were

2813
04:03:20,840 --> 04:03:23,220
significant natural disasters that impacted

2814
04:03:23,940 --> 04:03:26,620
communities ability to deliver water to their customers.

2815
04:03:27,800 --> 04:03:31,560
Part of that was for all water utilities to go through

2816
04:03:31,560 --> 04:03:38,680
an evaluation to help them figure out how to be more resilient and to protect their

2817
04:03:39,340 --> 04:03:42,840
service to their customers from emergencies,

2818
04:03:45,220 --> 04:03:48,040
from human threats, from anything that could

2819
04:03:48,040 --> 04:03:55,680
happen to the water system that would mitigate their ability to deliver water. So one of

2820
04:03:55,680 --> 04:03:59,220
those things that is emphasized as a physical security.

2821
04:03:59,940 --> 04:04:04,120
It is a potable water resource and so requirements

2822
04:04:04,920 --> 04:04:09,180
by the government to secure the site

2823
04:04:09,180 --> 04:04:11,880
at all water distribution facilities

2824
04:04:11,880 --> 04:04:14,740
for potable water are in place.

2825
04:04:14,920 --> 04:04:16,780
Part of that is to fence the site

2826
04:04:16,780 --> 04:04:18,720
and prevent public access.

2827
04:04:19,320 --> 04:04:19,480
All right.

2828
04:04:19,660 --> 04:04:20,000
Thank you.

2829
04:04:20,100 --> 04:04:21,720
I know that was covered in the study session,

2830
04:04:21,860 --> 04:04:24,280
but I thought it was important to,

2831
04:04:24,280 --> 04:04:27,800
over that again since we haven't had that study session since January.

2832
04:04:31,420 --> 04:04:39,720
One other question, I know the study session, it was listed about $14 million for the

2833
04:04:39,720 --> 04:04:41,380
project and now it's up to $80 million.

2834
04:04:41,400 --> 04:04:50,400
Is this $80 million what Council can expect to see roughly when you go out to bid and start

2835
04:04:50,400 --> 04:04:53,780
construction or is there a potential for a more cost increase?

2836
04:05:02,640 --> 04:05:09,520
I'll try to handle this one, you guys can pop in if you want to add more, but so I believe

2837
04:05:09,520 --> 04:05:17,800
the $14 million number was a previous from a long time ago before we were involved.

2838
04:05:20,660 --> 04:05:25,100
When Burns McDonnell was brought on board, we did a preliminary design estimate,

2839
04:05:25,100 --> 04:05:26,640
2022

2840
04:05:28,720 --> 04:05:39,100
which was around 50 million. So since then the design has progressed but also the market

2841
04:05:39,100 --> 04:05:57,160
these days is very volatile and fluctuates and so we brought on a contractor CMGC as you

2842
04:05:57,160 --> 04:06:03,600
just fluctuations in market. Part of it is we added things to the design to understand it better.

2843
04:06:05,200 --> 04:06:11,520
So from our involvement, the cost has gone from 50 to 80 million, not from 14.

2844
04:06:14,070 --> 04:06:20,030
Either way, the cost has gone up. It has. Can we expect this 80 million to be the final number

2845
04:06:20,030 --> 04:06:25,770
or when you start construction? Because there are potential that number could increase.

2846
04:06:25,770 --> 04:06:36,270
So, one of the benefits of having the contractor onboard and working with the engineer throughout the majority of the design is that we're able to provide a more accurate cost estimate at this stage.

2847
04:06:37,370 --> 04:06:44,890
That being said, I don't believe we have Garney's final cost estimate yet, so I don't want to speak to that. We will for the October Council session.

2848
04:06:44,890 --> 04:06:56,750
From that point, we do not anticipate a change in costs unless there is a significant change in design conditions or an addition to the scope.

2849
04:06:57,330 --> 04:06:58,270
All right, thank you.

2850
04:06:59,530 --> 04:07:08,750
I know one of the questions that residents have both emailed along with spoken about tonight is the vehicular, the one truck a day.

2851
04:07:08,750 --> 04:07:12,770
up and down the trail, which I know is not uncommon.

2852
04:07:13,270 --> 04:07:19,750
I experienced multiple vehicles on some days on the U.S. 36 bike path for maintenance.

2853
04:07:20,790 --> 04:07:28,610
What is the rate of accidents that we experienced that are reported to paramedics and

2854
04:07:28,610 --> 04:07:33,830
from Phil PD as it relates to bikes, pedestrians with maintenance vehicles?

2855
04:07:35,720 --> 04:07:37,000
I have no idea.

2856
04:07:41,030 --> 04:07:45,050
Mr. Boogers going to come and give us an update on that.

2857
04:07:45,110 --> 04:07:45,770
Good evening.

2858
04:07:47,190 --> 04:07:47,950
Great question.

2859
04:07:48,150 --> 04:07:52,230
Jeff Ruger, deputy director of Public Works 32 years have been in the water department.

2860
04:07:52,990 --> 04:07:58,090
We have over 14 lift stations and five booster stations and six tank sites.

2861
04:07:58,830 --> 04:08:01,630
And that particular question is a great question.

2862
04:08:02,570 --> 04:08:08,470
And we check stations on a daily basis to make sure it's secure, it's safe and that type of thing.

2863
04:08:08,470 --> 04:08:19,630
Our staff do this seven days, three and six, five days a year, and there's not one spin and action associated with our stations being checked that type of thing.

2864
04:08:20,090 --> 04:08:24,350
All right. Thank you. That's what I was thinking the answer was, but I wanted to make sure.

2865
04:08:24,450 --> 04:08:25,270
Thank you Mr. Ruger.

2866
04:08:26,570 --> 04:08:38,390
My last question is I know this process has started since roughly 2016, 2017 about tanks being placed on this property.

2867
04:08:39,390 --> 04:08:47,810
When the five sites were proposed to the city manager's office, whenever that date was,

2868
04:08:47,930 --> 04:08:54,870
what was the timeline from that date to when all the alternative analysis were completed,

2869
04:08:55,330 --> 04:09:04,050
what was that final date to when that the current site was proposed and decided on my staff?

2870
04:09:09,010 --> 04:09:15,250
I can't remember where to think we started the Alternatives Analysis, Falls, September

2871
04:09:15,250 --> 04:09:22,930
October last year, 2022, and we had the Alternatives Report a couple of months later

2872
04:09:22,930 --> 04:09:27,850
ready for the January study session, so it was finished, I guess, December, early January.

2873
04:09:28,510 --> 04:09:32,750
Okay, how long does an alternative analysis site typically last, whether it be for the city,

2874
04:09:33,590 --> 04:09:38,390
or a third party developer, or does it be very, I think it's on project.

2875
04:09:38,390 --> 04:09:41,230
on what the project is and what you're looking at.

2876
04:09:41,410 --> 04:09:42,910
All right. Thank you. That's all my questions, Mayor.

2877
04:09:43,470 --> 04:09:45,350
Right. Thank you. Councilmember Lim.

2878
04:09:48,400 --> 04:09:53,180
I think many of my questions have been answered. Let me see.

2879
04:09:54,500 --> 04:10:03,020
There was a suggestion made in the public comment that we could save money by other procurement methods

2880
04:10:03,020 --> 04:10:06,720
that would provide enough to fully bury the tanks.

2881
04:10:06,720 --> 04:10:15,120
could staff or could the applicant, could the applicant comment on whether that statement

2882
04:10:15,120 --> 04:10:17,320
would be reasonable?

2883
04:10:31,600 --> 04:10:37,480
Councillor Stroud, the process we have followed is the process we would recommend for any

2884
04:10:37,480 --> 04:10:38,940
complex project.

2885
04:10:39,220 --> 04:10:45,740
It's the process we followed for instance for the BCC facility for all of our major utility

2886
04:10:46,280 --> 04:10:46,940
projects.

2887
04:10:46,940 --> 04:10:56,320
We issue an RFP for construction services for both pre-construction and construction and we get

2888
04:10:56,320 --> 04:10:58,320
proposals back from qualified contractors.

2889
04:11:00,260 --> 04:11:02,640
We got two proposals for this project.

2890
04:11:04,040 --> 04:11:07,180
The project team recommended gardening construction.

2891
04:11:07,920 --> 04:11:14,200
I don't have my notes in front of me, but I think they've built 43 tanks in Colorado.

2892
04:11:15,880 --> 04:11:20,760
They have done this over and over again in neighborhoods and we felt that they were far

2893
04:11:20,760 --> 04:11:23,160
and away the most qualified contractor for this.

2894
04:11:23,920 --> 04:11:28,080
So we bring them on for pre-construction and they scrub through the plans and they look

2895
04:11:28,080 --> 04:11:35,360
for constructability and they evaluate tank types and materials and make recommendations

2896
04:11:35,360 --> 04:11:38,880
to the engineer for the most cost-efficient design.

2897
04:11:39,700 --> 04:11:46,080
Then when the design is progressed or finalized, they bid the work, they don't do all the

2898
04:11:46,080 --> 04:11:46,320
work.

2899
04:11:46,720 --> 04:11:51,280
So they are competitively bidding all the specialties of the work and that bidding process

2900
04:11:51,280 --> 04:11:54,640
is open to broomfield to participate in and to review.

2901
04:11:55,580 --> 04:12:02,160
So we are getting competitive pricing on all aspects of the project and we're getting the advice

2902
04:12:02,160 --> 04:12:05,900
from the contractor is to how to save money in the design.

2903
04:12:06,360 --> 04:12:11,840
So we're not getting caught off guard with a full set of design plans

2904
04:12:11,840 --> 04:12:16,040
that may not be as constructable as possible and then bidding it.

2905
04:12:16,740 --> 04:12:19,680
So we are very confident in this methodology.

2906
04:12:21,500 --> 04:12:24,880
And we've had success with it on our most complex projects.

2907
04:12:27,200 --> 04:12:28,540
OK, thank you.

2908
04:12:29,800 --> 04:12:35,580
One other sighting question, I think that hasn't yet been addressed.

2909
04:12:36,580 --> 04:12:48,100
One of the residents in their public comment suggested that we could open up some of the sites by moving the oil and gas pipelines.

2910
04:12:48,100 --> 04:13:00,640
So that was a definitely referred to in staff's original 16-site, not the four sites, but the

2911
04:13:00,640 --> 04:13:08,780
16-site overview, so could you address that comment by the resident is that reasonable

2912
04:13:08,780 --> 04:13:12,800
to think that anyone would do that, that we could accomplish that?

2913
04:13:21,570 --> 04:13:28,050
Councilmember Lynn, we did not look into moving the island gas and I don't know if someone from

2914
04:13:28,770 --> 04:13:36,670
strategic initiatives is here but it was so much council involvement in the linements of

2915
04:13:36,670 --> 04:13:42,070
pipelines and easements we felt like that wasn't something we just take lightly and move.

2916
04:13:51,210 --> 04:13:56,390
Other questions don't have to do with sighting that are still that weren't completely addressed.

2917
04:13:56,390 --> 04:13:58,390
And in your presentation,

2918
04:14:00,670 --> 04:14:11,620
you referred to the safety of the relative safety of the situation

2919
04:14:12,660 --> 04:14:19,980
with the one truck a day coming to the site, so that was that was covered.

2920
04:14:19,980 --> 04:14:34,040
There was an email that had another safety concern that the resident cited that there were frequently

2921
04:14:34,980 --> 04:14:40,740
teenagers climbing on top of the current tank, mild high tank.

2922
04:14:40,740 --> 04:14:49,420
Could you address how this site will prohibit that?

2923
04:15:00,370 --> 04:15:30,350
Councilperson LEMJIFER, the site security defense that Nicole explained earlier, they have security alarms and that type of thing that activate our system, it's sent to us by Skeda, and then our staff would report out there to check the site out and make sure that there's nobody on the site and that's, it's more vulnerability studies and that type of thing so that there's no access on top of it.

2924
04:15:30,370 --> 04:15:41,430
of the tanks or any type of tampering or vandalism. Carbon road is a good example. You'll rarely

2925
04:15:41,430 --> 04:15:48,210
ever see those tanks painted since those security pieces have been put in. And did I understand

2926
04:15:48,210 --> 04:15:54,850
that there would be motion sense in the lighting depictions? There would refer to motion sensors.

2927
04:15:54,850 --> 04:16:02,850
So how closely would someone have to be to that area for the motion sensors to go on?

2928
04:16:03,010 --> 04:16:10,850
I think there's space to evenly around the fence to be activated as movement happens in that type of thing and on the tank site itself.

2929
04:16:12,550 --> 04:16:17,610
The purpose of that is we didn't want the tank site to light up at night.

2930
04:16:18,110 --> 04:16:24,830
And then we have the abilities to come to the site and turn everything on if we were needed to go up there to do maintenance.

2931
04:16:24,830 --> 04:16:28,570
into our check for security.

2932
04:16:30,510 --> 04:16:31,430
Okay, thank you.

2933
04:16:31,570 --> 04:16:32,770
Those are my remaining questions.

2934
04:16:33,930 --> 04:16:34,430
Thank you.

2935
04:16:34,550 --> 04:16:35,910
Next is Council Member Anderson.

2936
04:16:39,520 --> 04:16:39,980
Thank you.

2937
04:16:40,100 --> 04:16:42,820
I think most of my questions have been already asked,

2938
04:16:42,960 --> 04:16:48,280
but I do have some probably the more important questions

2939
04:16:48,280 --> 04:16:49,500
that I have seen over time.

2940
04:16:49,760 --> 04:16:53,400
Okay, so if we are just a quick history here

2941
04:16:53,400 --> 04:16:55,200
on January 17th of 2023.

2942
04:16:55,200 --> 04:17:02,340
this past year, we had a study session and some of us sitting up here wanted, we were providing

2943
04:17:02,340 --> 04:17:07,920
direction to do that RFP and to look at the alternative, the alternative moving the one tank

2944
04:17:07,920 --> 04:17:12,620
down. The ultimate direction of this console was not to do that, so here we are, and I don't think

2945
04:17:12,620 --> 04:17:18,480
this is a, I just feel like we passed that moment in time because we need the water. We keep hearing

2946
04:17:18,480 --> 04:17:24,360
And yet, we miss that opportunity to try to relocate these tank tanks.

2947
04:17:26,320 --> 04:17:32,060
So assuming that we're, you know, I'm still like given up on the potential to find a better solution,

2948
04:17:32,340 --> 04:17:35,620
but it just feels like that point is narrowing.

2949
04:17:36,460 --> 04:17:40,660
So the really question comes down to, is that hilltop park and preserving that view,

2950
04:17:40,800 --> 04:17:43,220
and I know I'm constantly losing myself as these questions,

2951
04:17:43,220 --> 04:17:47,720
at that meeting about raising up that northern part,

2952
04:17:48,200 --> 04:17:52,220
make sure that that, that, that new location is just as,

2953
04:17:53,620 --> 04:17:55,620
it provides us, that's saying 360 degree view.

2954
04:17:55,720 --> 04:17:57,060
I know staff is going to look into it.

2955
04:17:57,140 --> 04:18:00,840
And so I am focusing now on drawing 2L-104.

2956
04:18:01,140 --> 04:18:03,080
So I don't know if there's any way to pull these drawings or not,

2957
04:18:03,220 --> 04:18:09,840
but I think, Ms. Allen might know what this view is of the,

2958
04:18:10,900 --> 04:18:23,800
The elevation of the top of the existing hill where the tanks are going to go and where the park currently is and then the new section north of it and it looks like the elevation is identical to the top of the hill.

2959
04:18:24,080 --> 04:18:28,680
So you're not going to get that extra 8 feet to get up above the tanks and get that.

2960
04:18:28,820 --> 04:18:34,920
I mean, is there any, this is where I just wish we could do a little bit more and find a way to take a little bit more dirt and build that up just a little bit more.

2961
04:18:34,920 --> 04:18:40,460
that was where one of my questions earlier today was leading is can we can we just get that

2962
04:18:41,180 --> 04:18:47,020
that new location elevated enough that you could still get that 360 degree panoramic view

2963
04:18:47,600 --> 04:18:52,660
and try to restore as much of this carcass possible. So that was what those questions were going

2964
04:18:52,660 --> 04:19:00,590
is and to get that designed in and not just review it afterwards to see what the best possible view we

2965
04:19:00,590 --> 04:19:04,990
could get. It's going to guarantee that panoramic view any possible way. Thank you.

2966
04:19:04,990 --> 04:19:10,690
Amber Anderson. Thank you for the question. So it gets a little confusing when we're

2967
04:19:10,690 --> 04:19:15,230
locating trails. We want to make sure that we have an opportunity even after construction

2968
04:19:15,230 --> 04:19:22,170
is done to really take a moment after the construction is done. The grading is in place. We walk

2969
04:19:22,170 --> 04:19:27,790
those trails typically to make sure that the trail alignment as is shown in the site development plan

2970
04:19:27,790 --> 04:19:34,610
is really what maximizes the view. Where exactly should the bench be? We might plan for it in one

2971
04:19:34,610 --> 04:19:39,770
location, but maybe if it had just been planned for a feet to the north, we would have maximized

2972
04:19:39,770 --> 04:19:40,330
a better view.

2973
04:19:40,790 --> 04:19:44,390
So that's why there's a note in the site development plans often when we're talking about

2974
04:19:44,390 --> 04:19:49,510
trail alignments that says the trail will be staked, and there'll be an opportunity to walk

2975
04:19:49,510 --> 04:19:54,490
the trail with staff prior to the final construction and surfacing of the trail.

2976
04:19:54,690 --> 04:19:58,830
And you'll see that pretty frequently with a lot of our site development plans, and that's

2977
04:19:58,830 --> 04:20:05,690
case here. The overlook area was built up, but there's not really a way without bearing

2978
04:20:05,690 --> 04:20:12,790
the tanks to make it so high up that you wouldn't with looking to the south be able to

2979
04:20:12,790 --> 04:20:18,710
see the top of the tanks. But we have tried to build up that area where the overlook

2980
04:20:18,710 --> 04:20:24,150
would be and we've done our best to locate where we believe the trail alignment will be

2981
04:20:24,150 --> 04:20:31,310
well-reserving the ability to walk that staked trail after construction, to really make sure that we've

2982
04:20:31,310 --> 04:20:39,190
maximized those views, like you were saying, trying to get the most view out of that over look space.

2983
04:20:40,190 --> 04:20:48,250
Do you know the compared to the top of the hill where the current park is and the new location of the plant hill?

2984
04:20:48,410 --> 04:20:51,550
Do we know what that height, are they the same height?

2985
04:20:51,550 --> 04:20:53,910
It's a little bit higher. I don't have that exact measurement.

2986
04:20:56,070 --> 04:20:59,530
It's a matter of feet higher, but it is higher.

2987
04:20:59,730 --> 04:21:00,310
The new location.

2988
04:21:01,250 --> 04:21:03,650
Okay, so potentially when you're standing there in the top of the rock,

2989
04:21:03,790 --> 04:21:07,430
maybe you could eventually see?

2990
04:21:07,870 --> 04:21:09,830
You will still see the top of the tanks.

2991
04:21:12,290 --> 04:21:12,850
All right, thank you.

2992
04:21:12,950 --> 04:21:14,710
And then I am still interested, though,

2993
04:21:15,050 --> 04:21:18,550
and if this console is willing to just...

2994
04:21:19,510 --> 04:21:21,150
You'll get that quote to see what...

2995
04:21:21,150 --> 04:21:25,250
Is it really $7 million to take those tanks down just a little bit further and bury them?

2996
04:21:25,650 --> 04:21:30,330
I would love to still get that quote so if it was not too...

2997
04:21:30,330 --> 04:21:35,430
If we can front-front that direction here to just get that quote even if it's not fully very close for the down.

2998
04:21:35,550 --> 04:21:39,090
I don't know, just something where we can closer and closer to preserving that view.

2999
04:21:44,440 --> 04:21:50,080
Councilmember Anderson, so we have the estimate from the contractor, but we can't get an exact quote without a design.

3000
04:21:50,080 --> 04:22:03,520
So, we're not, we have to detail design documents to get an actual price, so we have the best available information from a contractor, and that's seven million, I'm sure.

3001
04:22:04,240 --> 04:22:05,960
Okay, so we can't get the estimate.

3002
04:22:06,240 --> 04:22:10,680
Okay, and then what I would say, so if we were bearing the tanks, there will be some redesign.

3003
04:22:10,960 --> 04:22:18,100
The tank has to be re-evaluated structurally and so on, foundations, all of that, so it's not just a...

3004
04:22:18,100 --> 04:22:25,240
add more dirt. You can't just go out and get a close estimate of what the cost would be correct.

3005
04:22:25,440 --> 04:22:28,840
It's not just the earthwork. Okay, that's helpful.

3006
04:22:29,320 --> 04:22:34,240
I guess. Okay, and then here's the other question I don't think we've talked much about.

3007
04:22:34,560 --> 04:22:38,060
What is the actual, what does this construction phase look like that?

3008
04:22:38,140 --> 04:22:42,700
We've here, it's give me like 24 months, but how much of that is actual earth moving?

3009
04:22:43,380 --> 04:22:45,960
How much of that is bringing tank pieces on site?

3010
04:22:45,960 --> 04:22:49,760
And how much of that is just like the tank is already basically constructed and you're just

3011
04:22:49,760 --> 04:22:52,180
working on the internals of it.

3012
04:22:52,520 --> 04:22:56,880
Like, just how disruptive is this, and then we'll all of the, we'll all of the derpy

3013
04:22:56,880 --> 04:23:01,020
removed in the materials brought on site straight off of low on to that construction site,

3014
04:23:01,100 --> 04:23:05,580
or would it, and would there any, be any construction, traffic, traffic at all, going in

3015
04:23:05,580 --> 04:23:07,560
around the two entrances to Anthem Reserve?

3016
04:23:08,680 --> 04:23:13,400
Good evening, Mayor, council members, I'll do my best.

3017
04:23:13,400 --> 04:23:15,420
So stop me if I've missed one of those.

3018
04:23:16,320 --> 04:23:19,220
Yes, we will be bringing all of the construction equipment off

3019
04:23:19,220 --> 04:23:23,740
of the load is how we'll do it.

3020
04:23:23,740 --> 04:23:27,760
Of course, when we do things like transplanting the trees,

3021
04:23:28,080 --> 04:23:33,040
we'll need to be probably coming on to Irving Court

3022
04:23:33,040 --> 04:23:33,920
to do that.

3023
04:23:34,680 --> 04:23:42,240
Also, there will be a discharge line that will cross Irving

3024
04:23:42,240 --> 04:23:50,160
court, so we'll disrupt Irving Court for a week, maybe two during that time period.

3025
04:23:51,920 --> 04:23:56,160
I'm sorry, do you want to? I started at the last question. Do you want to start at the first question?

3026
04:23:57,140 --> 04:24:05,100
Oh, time frame for construction. 24 months is we're trying to be a conservative estimate on that.

3027
04:24:06,500 --> 04:24:10,340
So they'll come in, clear and grab the site,

3028
04:24:12,950 --> 04:24:16,370
excavate, and at first, and then we'll start

3029
04:24:16,370 --> 04:24:20,350
working on building the tanks at that time.

3030
04:24:21,210 --> 04:24:26,390
At this point, we don't have a detailed schedule because we haven't finished, we're just

3031
04:24:26,390 --> 04:24:30,970
finishing the design, and that is what they are working on, and so we will be able to provide

3032
04:24:30,970 --> 04:24:33,830
that to you when we come with the GMP.

3033
04:24:34,770 --> 04:24:42,510
I will tell you, some of the longest lead items for the project will be in the

3034
04:24:42,510 --> 04:24:46,550
pump station, will not be actually building the pump station, but will be the components

3035
04:24:46,550 --> 04:24:48,070
within the pump station.

3036
04:24:48,650 --> 04:24:49,330
The generator,

3037
04:24:51,810 --> 04:24:55,750
there are controls such as the

3038
04:24:58,760 --> 04:25:00,680
pumps themselves.

3039
04:25:00,680 --> 04:25:09,460
those all right now are extraordinarily, we're talking like 52 weeks to get some of these

3040
04:25:09,460 --> 04:25:15,060
things that we used to be able to get in three, six months now we're talking over a year.

3041
04:25:17,500 --> 04:25:22,340
I guess I'm just trying to look at the, what does it feel like as a resident living in that area?

3042
04:25:22,700 --> 04:25:30,480
Is this going to be constant all day for weeks at a time of earth moving or is it?

3043
04:25:31,400 --> 04:25:33,840
And like, how many weeks of earth are just restricted?

3044
04:25:33,980 --> 04:25:34,660
The earth is moving.

3045
04:25:35,380 --> 04:25:38,460
And I probably don't have a really good estimate on that,

3046
04:25:38,560 --> 04:25:41,480
but probably three to six months.

3047
04:25:45,620 --> 04:25:46,500
That's probably a good range.

3048
04:25:46,840 --> 04:25:49,040
So what it really will be is they'll excavate the site,

3049
04:25:49,260 --> 04:25:50,700
and then they will build the tank.

3050
04:25:51,280 --> 04:25:54,720
And then they will come back and put the dirt back

3051
04:25:54,720 --> 04:25:55,680
around the tank.

3052
04:25:56,800 --> 04:25:59,440
So there'll be some early earth moving.

3053
04:26:00,440 --> 04:26:02,080
Then we'll see a lot of the construction.

3054
04:26:02,080 --> 04:26:05,600
and then they'll come back and build it back on.

3055
04:26:10,880 --> 04:26:12,320
I have, so thank you.

3056
04:26:12,520 --> 04:26:13,440
All right, thank you.

3057
04:26:13,600 --> 04:26:14,620
Council Member Shaft.

3058
04:26:16,140 --> 04:26:17,800
Thank you, Mayor, I appreciate the questions

3059
04:26:17,800 --> 04:26:19,880
of the residents of my fellow council members.

3060
04:26:20,180 --> 04:26:22,740
I, you know, many of my questions have been answered already.

3061
04:26:23,220 --> 04:26:26,180
I do appreciate the comments from residents tonight,

3062
04:26:26,260 --> 04:26:27,680
as well as emails before today.

3063
04:26:27,900 --> 04:26:30,100
I appreciate staff for your presentation

3064
04:26:30,100 --> 04:26:31,460
and the work on this project.

3065
04:26:31,640 --> 04:26:35,940
So questions, we heard comments tonight about that.

3066
04:26:35,940 --> 04:26:46,000
What certain residents had been aware of that there was going to be one very tank that's what they were informed and that's what they thought was going to happen

3067
04:26:46,000 --> 04:26:50,940
So can you talk to me about what the realities of that one tank would have done to this hilltop?

3068
04:26:53,400 --> 04:26:54,400
I'm going to have Mr. Rut.

3069
04:26:55,460 --> 04:27:01,500
I think one of the pieces earlier as Mr. Rut makes his way when they're talking about one tank.

3070
04:27:01,500 --> 04:27:08,060
Um, I think Miss Allen had clarified that the, that the, that the amount, the gallon amount

3071
04:27:08,060 --> 04:27:13,360
hadn't changed, what changed was the two and really it's about redundancy that you

3072
04:27:13,360 --> 04:27:14,820
can take one off the line.

3073
04:27:14,980 --> 04:27:20,080
And it gives my, my question is specific to that tank, my, my thought is that tank would have

3074
04:27:20,080 --> 04:27:23,620
been located on the hilltop and it would have been surrounded by fence, yes, it would have been

3075
04:27:23,620 --> 04:27:24,040
buried.

3076
04:27:24,040 --> 04:27:29,080
Is that correct, Mr. Red?

3077
04:27:29,780 --> 04:27:31,140
It was indicated to be buried.

3078
04:27:31,420 --> 04:27:33,420
Yeah, that was what the indication was.

3079
04:27:33,960 --> 04:27:38,520
The diameter basically is twice the size of two of them together, right?

3080
04:27:39,040 --> 04:27:45,920
So if the tank is 132 foot diameter, roughly one tank would be 262 foot diameter.

3081
04:27:46,520 --> 04:27:52,480
So the amount of space of concrete is similar because we still have to hold the 6 million gallons.

3082
04:27:52,480 --> 04:27:59,800
The operational reasons to do it in two tanks is it provides us to operate the system more

3083
04:27:59,800 --> 04:28:09,280
effectively and to minimize possible future issues with water quality. EPA recommends

3084
04:28:09,280 --> 04:28:17,080
that you exchange all the water in the tank less than three days. Larger tank takes longer

3085
04:28:17,080 --> 04:28:21,520
time to get through all the water. Smaller tanks allows you to operate that more efficiently

3086
04:28:21,520 --> 04:28:26,000
based winter, winter usage is obviously a lot less than winter, or than summer usage.

3087
04:28:27,260 --> 04:28:30,740
So by having the two tanks, it provides us with those opportunities.

3088
04:28:31,600 --> 04:28:36,120
It also provides us with maintenance opportunities, where we could take one system off,

3089
04:28:36,200 --> 04:28:40,240
one tank off clean, and we clean every tank every year, so we'd be able to take one off,

3090
04:28:40,560 --> 04:28:44,980
run the other tank, and then swipe them back and forth, improve water quality.

3091
04:28:46,640 --> 04:28:51,220
I mean, I guess I understand the advantages of going to the two tanks, but I just want to clarify.

3092
04:28:51,220 --> 04:28:56,460
So we would have had one tank up on the hilltop, fully buried, but fenced around that.

3093
04:28:58,020 --> 04:29:03,880
Yes, the fence would still be required for access to that, that hilltop would not be there.

3094
04:29:04,300 --> 04:29:05,600
Yeah, we'd be the same as it is currently.

3095
04:29:05,840 --> 04:29:06,560
Perfect, thank you.

3096
04:29:08,540 --> 04:29:14,760
It was, there was public comment about this project, closing down one entrance to the neighborhood during construction.

3097
04:29:15,500 --> 04:29:20,380
But I just heard that the majority of the construction will be coming off of the wall.

3098
04:29:20,380 --> 04:29:22,700
Is this a temporary construction road?

3099
04:29:25,390 --> 04:29:25,850
That's correct.

3100
04:29:26,230 --> 04:29:31,130
The construction access is actually going to be off a low from the most part not go through the community.

3101
04:29:31,430 --> 04:29:33,990
There are a few minor things that we have to do.

3102
04:29:34,770 --> 04:29:36,510
But majority of it will come off a low.

3103
04:29:36,590 --> 04:29:39,910
So there will still be two entrances to the community.

3104
04:29:40,030 --> 04:29:40,230
Correct.

3105
04:29:40,690 --> 04:29:40,710
Yeah.

3106
04:29:40,850 --> 04:29:42,330
We need no changes for that.

3107
04:29:44,590 --> 04:29:45,890
So the trails.

3108
04:29:46,370 --> 04:29:49,650
This was a response that you sent to a council member,

3109
04:29:49,650 --> 04:29:54,870
experts about the trails. And how those are going to be changed, how the current trails will

3110
04:29:54,870 --> 04:29:59,750
be changed. And new trails will be added. So could you walk us through?

3111
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:06,920
How that trail will be changed and how many more feet of trail trail will be constructed with this project?

3112
04:30:11,240 --> 04:30:14,780
It's what slide is that?

3113
04:30:14,780 --> 04:30:18,660
I believe this slide's at the very end.

3114
04:30:18,720 --> 04:30:20,560
How can you put this slide 30 up please?

3115
04:30:21,160 --> 04:30:25,660
And this slide will give you a graphic of where we're going to be seeing changes in the trail.

3116
04:30:26,480 --> 04:30:28,540
So let's just wait for that for a moment.

3117
04:30:35,040 --> 04:30:45,220
Okay, so in this picture, the turquoise trail that you see, that is the existing trail, and that is going to be removed.

3118
04:30:45,720 --> 04:30:53,560
The existing trail then goes up to the top of the hilltop over to Erwin court and carries on through toward Sheridan.

3119
04:30:53,940 --> 04:30:56,960
So the white line there is the existing trail.

3120
04:30:56,960 --> 04:31:05,640
What will be removed is that turquoise area and that is 465 lanyol feet.

3121
04:31:06,680 --> 04:31:12,140
The trail to replace that area is that black dotted line, that's a new trail.

3122
04:31:13,340 --> 04:31:20,700
And at the very top, we've done our best to estimate where that trail from the existing

3123
04:31:20,700 --> 04:31:28,120
overlook, which is where that blue dot is, over to generally where the new overlook will be placed.

3124
04:31:28,980 --> 04:31:32,680
That entire linear footage is 871 linear feet.

3125
04:31:33,640 --> 04:31:38,760
You'll also notice off of low boulevard, there's a very short dotted red trail.

3126
04:31:39,280 --> 04:31:42,100
That is the one that OSTAC requested.

3127
04:31:42,640 --> 04:31:49,200
The reason for that was that when you're on the sidewalk there on low, you'll be able to quickly

3128
04:31:49,200 --> 04:31:53,500
go on to the Crusher Finds Trail and get into the open space.

3129
04:31:54,240 --> 04:31:58,900
We do have a lot of runners and cyclists on our open space and trails advisory committee.

3130
04:31:59,540 --> 04:32:06,440
I think that was a comment that they thought would be nice for users of the trails to

3131
04:32:06,440 --> 04:32:07,860
have that direct access.

3132
04:32:08,800 --> 04:32:10,880
That linear footage is 109.

3133
04:32:10,880 --> 04:32:11,680
And the

3134
04:32:15,490 --> 04:32:22,450
last question I have is, we looked at all these, I guess there were four other alternative sites.

3135
04:32:23,330 --> 04:32:32,010
Is there, or has there been any notice for the homeowners of a water tank project being constructed near these alternative sites, such as the residents of Spruce Meadows or Silver Leaf?

3136
04:32:33,310 --> 04:32:33,970
Ms. Britain, ready?

3137
04:32:35,610 --> 04:32:36,670
Thank you, sir.

3138
04:32:36,670 --> 04:32:41,010
We followed our typical notification for this project, which includes a thousand feet.

3139
04:32:41,010 --> 04:32:53,050
We also placed a notice in the paper, and there's signs on the property, but with the alternative site analysis that was presented at the study session, there was not notification for each of those sites as it was a study session.

3140
04:32:53,390 --> 04:32:57,170
Okay, and I guess I'm talking to two different notices.

3141
04:32:57,990 --> 04:33:07,910
So when those homes were built or purchased, were those in their construction documents, was there noticed that there would be a water project in one of those alternative sites?

3142
04:33:07,910 --> 04:33:10,850
there was not. Great. Thank you. That's all the questions I am there.

3143
04:33:11,230 --> 04:33:13,870
Oh, thank you very much. Councilmember Leslie.

3144
04:33:16,260 --> 04:33:19,960
Thank you, Mayor. This is probably the most frustrating

3145
04:33:20,940 --> 04:33:29,540
discussion since I've joined council. There just doesn't seem to be an out. It seems like everything

3146
04:33:29,540 --> 04:33:36,140
is I know you can't do this. No, we can't do that. No, we can't do this. And yet there's gotta be

3147
04:33:36,140 --> 04:33:44,140
some solution here that would get as close or two and win win and then then not and yet I don't

3148
04:33:44,140 --> 04:33:51,100
hear that coming coming forward. Every question seems to get a response of no that that's not

3149
04:33:51,100 --> 04:33:57,620
doable or that's that much more expensive or whatever. So I'm feeling a bit frustrated and so I

3150
04:33:57,620 --> 04:34:02,300
I guess I'm empathizing a bit with the residents who have stressed themselves to tonight.

3151
04:34:02,300 --> 04:34:07,100
But let me just ask this question. There's a lot of land up there. It's beautiful

3152
04:34:07,100 --> 04:34:13,920
spot. I've been up there, I've taken photographs up there. I empathetic to this

3153
04:34:13,920 --> 04:34:21,660
virtual nature of that spot, it's a unique and there aren't too many of them.

3154
04:34:28,220 --> 04:34:34,280
And I

3155
04:34:34,280 --> 04:34:41,820
and south closer to the existing tank, allowing the front area where the overlooked

3156
04:34:41,820 --> 04:34:52,080
currently is just to stay where it is. There seems to be ample land. We don't have to

3157
04:34:52,080 --> 04:35:01,320
bury the tanks all the way to protect that overlooked, as would increase the cost, but by moving

3158
04:35:01,320 --> 04:35:09,060
further to the east and south, we might be able to preserve that overlooked and at least address

3159
04:35:09,060 --> 04:35:17,920
one of the primary issues that have been raised to none. So rather than say, no, you can't do it

3160
04:35:17,920 --> 04:35:28,520
or the soil changes when we go a foot further to the east. Why isn't that possible? And that could

3161
04:35:28,520 --> 04:35:33,080
at least allow for the overlook to be protected as it currently is.

3162
04:35:34,420 --> 04:35:39,900
Thank you, Chancellor. We did cover that, but maybe you had to step away. Would you like to explain

3163
04:35:39,900 --> 04:35:40,980
that again, Miss Allen?

3164
04:35:45,840 --> 04:35:49,900
Thank you for the opportunity. So Eastern South is essentially alternate

3165
04:35:49,900 --> 04:35:57,340
site three in our analysis. And I don't, I don't think we said no, you can't do it. You gave

3166
04:35:57,340 --> 04:36:02,440
pros and cons of each site. Alternative site three is in the open space. It would trigger the

3167
04:36:02,440 --> 04:36:08,480
in space charter requirement. It's a lower elevation. It's closer to other neighborhoods.

3168
04:36:09,760 --> 04:36:20,500
And it would require a redesign of the tank itself and going through the process again for the

3169
04:36:20,500 --> 04:36:26,050
site development plan. Yeah, I mean, I heard that before. I was here. I was starting.

3170
04:36:27,350 --> 04:36:35,690
But you're not, there are really that existing tank is not that close to any of the neighborhoods.

3171
04:36:35,910 --> 04:36:53,210
In fact, the construction of these tanks would be closer to Anthem reserve right there above the kind of overhang when you're in the neighborhood looking up than if they were moved in the other direction.

3172
04:36:53,210 --> 04:36:56,430
and they really are a lot of homes that close.

3173
04:36:56,710 --> 04:36:58,730
They're further away, and then there's a larger neighborhood

3174
04:36:58,730 --> 04:37:01,470
down below, I understand that.

3175
04:37:01,490 --> 04:37:03,570
Yes, it's a slightly lower elevation,

3176
04:37:04,110 --> 04:37:07,470
but I don't know that, you know,

3177
04:37:07,550 --> 04:37:09,110
from an engineering perspective,

3178
04:37:09,350 --> 04:37:14,490
that should prevent the necessary pumping and stuff

3179
04:37:14,490 --> 04:37:15,670
that needs to be done.

3180
04:37:15,830 --> 04:37:19,730
Again, we're talking about feet difference here.

3181
04:37:20,650 --> 04:37:22,190
It just seems to me that something like that

3182
04:37:22,190 --> 04:37:29,910
be given a much more serious look rather than just, you know, we can't do it because it's

3183
04:37:29,910 --> 04:37:35,010
closer to another neighborhood. Well, we can't avoid that, no matter where we got all of the

3184
04:37:35,010 --> 04:37:40,410
sites that were indicated as potential alternatives are closer to the other exact one. One of

3185
04:37:40,410 --> 04:37:45,690
the residents suggested an industrial site, but we all covered that. We know there aren't any industrial

3186
04:37:45,690 --> 04:37:51,890
sites that are at the celebration. So it seems to be something like that might be more of a compromise

3187
04:37:51,890 --> 04:38:00,910
And maybe there's some additional costs associated with it, but it would preserve one of the primary issues that has been presented to us as a concern.

3188
04:38:01,050 --> 04:38:04,090
And one that I understand as I said I've been up there in a number of times.

3189
04:38:05,490 --> 04:38:19,170
So I would encourage us to think about how do we get closer to a win-win here than we currently are because we're not.

3190
04:38:19,170 --> 04:38:28,730
And that's a shame. And again, it's nobody's fault. I mean, this project has been there for years.

3191
04:38:30,690 --> 04:38:38,850
But for whatever reason, the residents when they were building their new homes were informed properly, it's not the city's fault.

3192
04:38:39,990 --> 04:38:44,370
But it's the reality of the part of the problem that we're having here.

3193
04:38:44,370 --> 04:38:51,170
So my encouragement would be to see if we could find not necessarily a total change, but

3194
04:38:51,170 --> 04:38:58,630
a solution that may be right there in front of us that would help at least address most

3195
04:38:58,630 --> 04:39:02,570
of the concerns that have been raised to like, so that's my position, I care.

3196
04:39:03,570 --> 04:39:04,930
Thank you, Councilmember Leslie.

3197
04:39:06,670 --> 04:39:11,770
Everybody's spoken that wants to speak on the first round, so I'm going to speak, I

3198
04:39:13,910 --> 04:39:14,090
have

3199
04:39:14,090 --> 04:39:14,730
some questions.

3200
04:39:14,730 --> 04:39:23,030
So, to Councilmember Leslie's question, it is a land use designation issue with site 3, because

3201
04:39:23,730 --> 04:39:25,950
it's designated open space.

3202
04:39:29,200 --> 04:39:29,800
Yes.

3203
04:39:30,240 --> 04:39:35,760
Where the tanks are proposed right now is a specific track that was dedicated to broomfield,

3204
04:39:36,260 --> 04:39:39,520
not as open space, but as open lands for the purpose of the tank.

3205
04:39:40,160 --> 04:39:46,860
The surrounding property, including the area around the mile height tank and the property of the

3206
04:39:46,860 --> 04:39:49,500
that it catered to you and filled for open space.

3207
04:39:50,400 --> 04:39:54,060
So that would trigger another layer of approvals,

3208
04:39:54,540 --> 04:39:58,900
which would add time and possibly a reversal

3209
04:39:58,900 --> 04:40:02,620
if it goes to the public process by a vote, correct?

3210
04:40:02,760 --> 04:40:03,540
That's correct.

3211
04:40:03,920 --> 04:40:04,020
All right.

3212
04:40:04,380 --> 04:40:08,060
And so this is a two year project roughly, right?

3213
04:40:08,480 --> 04:40:14,460
And it was 2026 when we reached critical mass.

3214
04:40:14,460 --> 04:40:22,020
So we've got about enough time, 24 months to get this done.

3215
04:40:23,960 --> 04:40:24,920
That is correct.

3216
04:40:25,180 --> 04:40:29,680
So the model indicates that 2026 is a critical.

3217
04:40:30,600 --> 04:40:32,400
And can you clarify Mr. Rut?

3218
04:40:33,180 --> 04:40:35,960
The pumps for the most part, they put water in the tanks.

3219
04:40:36,420 --> 04:40:40,060
But it's the gravity, the pumps don't put water in the tanks.

3220
04:40:40,940 --> 04:40:44,020
What is the process of the pump putting water in the tanks?

3221
04:40:44,020 --> 04:40:50,200
So the tanks would be filled from the water treatment facility, so the pipe line is like currently go up low

3222
04:40:50,200 --> 04:40:52,760
with fill the tanks and

3223
04:40:52,760 --> 04:40:57,840
then from the tanks the water would grab the feet down to the pump station and from the pump station

3224
04:40:57,840 --> 04:41:04,040
It adds the water and the pressure back into the distribution system and

3225
04:41:04,040 --> 04:41:12,520
The gravity serves what purpose typically when you build water tanks you prefer to have them at a elevation where the whole system can be fed gravity

3226
04:41:12,520 --> 04:41:16,260
that's the most cost-effective O&M process.

3227
04:41:18,390 --> 04:41:21,290
Given this side, it's not tall enough to do that,

3228
04:41:21,310 --> 04:41:23,450
particularly since we're partially burying them,

3229
04:41:23,590 --> 04:41:24,850
we have to pump it.

3230
04:41:25,310 --> 04:41:27,870
So we do have to pump it to pressurize the system

3231
04:41:27,870 --> 04:41:29,370
and provide additional supply.

3232
04:41:30,630 --> 04:41:31,710
Thank you, don't go anywhere.

3233
04:41:32,170 --> 04:41:36,790
Because I want to address one of the comments from earlier this evening

3234
04:41:36,790 --> 04:41:41,690
about the water pressure and how it is lower in some areas,

3235
04:41:41,690 --> 04:41:46,830
like Wilcox, which happened after the Anthem reserve was built,

3236
04:41:49,070 --> 04:41:50,470
the failure to maintain

3237
04:41:50,470 --> 04:42:01,220
a water system is that something that we could be penalized for on the fire code with

3238
04:42:01,220 --> 04:42:06,280
fire mitigation, and maybe Chief Goslin can weigh in.

3239
04:42:07,000 --> 04:42:12,840
It is one of our responsibilities under our Safe Drinking Water Act to meet certain requirements

3240
04:42:12,840 --> 04:42:14,400
within our distribution system.

3241
04:42:15,820 --> 04:42:18,500
And you do that a lot with maintaining proper pressure,

3242
04:42:19,820 --> 04:42:22,100
proper tank design, enough storage.

3243
04:42:22,940 --> 04:42:24,720
Those are ways we meet those requirements.

3244
04:42:25,640 --> 04:42:30,160
One of the big issues is as the developments that

3245
04:42:30,160 --> 04:42:33,760
have already been approved and partly are under construction,

3246
04:42:33,980 --> 04:42:37,920
as they come online, they will draw more water down

3247
04:42:37,920 --> 04:42:41,360
the elevation away from the higher elevation,

3248
04:42:41,360 --> 04:42:44,280
which is what's causing the pressure issues.

3249
04:42:45,220 --> 04:42:52,080
So as baseline develops, as the development's north of Highway 7 developed, that already

3250
04:42:52,080 --> 04:42:58,560
approved, it's taking water downhill, and so the higher elevations ones will fill the

3251
04:42:58,560 --> 04:43:02,020
effects sooner of the drop in pressure.

3252
04:43:03,020 --> 04:43:08,320
What would be most impacted if the tanks are not approved would it be newly approved development

3253
04:43:08,320 --> 04:43:09,100
or existing?

3254
04:43:09,100 --> 04:43:10,620
It'd be existing.

3255
04:43:10,920 --> 04:43:15,140
And those neighborhoods in most impacted would be?

3256
04:43:15,220 --> 04:43:21,780
The major ones would be Anthem 24 and Wilcox are the two major ones that have the most impact.

3257
04:43:22,580 --> 04:43:25,980
And then there's also impact to Spruce Meadows.

3258
04:43:26,620 --> 04:43:33,480
Some impact to Wildgrass, some to McKay Landing, some to Anthem Ranch, and Anthem Highland.

3259
04:43:33,480 --> 04:43:33,980
I

3260
04:43:37,730 --> 04:43:44,370
wanted to go back to another statement that was made about emergency access with this

3261
04:43:44,370 --> 04:43:49,310
project's restrict emergency access to the residential area in any way.

3262
04:43:50,570 --> 04:43:52,810
No, because we have our construction access off of it.

3263
04:43:56,760 --> 04:44:03,460
Is it true though that they don't see those, like the, what was it called, form 41, whatever,

3264
04:44:03,680 --> 04:44:04,160
the waiver?

3265
04:44:05,040 --> 04:44:10,740
Is that really not presented to home buyers until closing in the closing documents?

3266
04:44:10,740 --> 04:44:12,700
If it is presented at all,

3267
04:44:15,380 --> 04:44:19,660
typically we would like to see those at the time that a contract is entered,

3268
04:44:20,480 --> 04:44:26,260
but what the residents have reported is that it was provided to them the exhibit F at the closing.

3269
04:44:27,820 --> 04:44:34,740
Or not at all, yes, as or not at all. So it sounds like we need just like we did with oil and gas.

3270
04:44:34,980 --> 04:44:42,820
Notification, we may need to revisit informed consent and that these disclosures are made well in advance.

3271
04:44:43,080 --> 04:44:49,860
So people aren't getting this at the, you know, the last hour when they've already moved basically.

3272
04:44:50,380 --> 04:44:55,940
So I think we need to improve that process and I know it's not relevant.

3273
04:44:56,180 --> 04:44:59,920
Now but it is relevant to now because I believe it informed consent.

3274
04:45:01,520 --> 04:45:06,080
And that obviously didn't happen to some people.

3275
04:45:06,860 --> 04:45:09,020
Well, that's all my questions for now.

3276
04:45:12,810 --> 04:45:15,890
We'll go to second round. Two minutes. Council member, motion.

3277
04:45:17,150 --> 04:45:22,890
Two questions, Mayor. First of all, relating to the fence, if we bury the tank.

3278
04:45:24,050 --> 04:45:28,770
First of all, how deep is the tank buried? What the top of the tank underground? How far down is that?

3279
04:45:36,580 --> 04:45:40,340
Are you asking in terms of how much cover there is over the top of the tank?

3280
04:45:40,340 --> 04:45:45,580
So we don't have a design for that, but I would estimate somewhere on the order of 2 to 5 feet.

3281
04:45:46,120 --> 04:45:51,700
So someone who, for some security purpose, somebody have to be really involved to dig down to the tank.

3282
04:45:52,600 --> 04:45:58,320
I guess my question is, is the, is the, is the fence require, is that a requirement by law, like if state or federal law,

3283
04:45:58,460 --> 04:46:00,560
was that best practice, or what we recommend?

3284
04:46:00,720 --> 04:46:04,480
It's a requirement now to fence, um, potable water sites.

3285
04:46:04,680 --> 04:46:06,760
And is it the entire site or is it just the access?

3286
04:46:07,840 --> 04:46:09,460
I'm assuming the tanks have an access point.

3287
04:46:09,460 --> 04:46:24,340
They do access hatches, so there are two access hatches at each individual tank, so if we were to fence, just the access points there would then be six individual fences.

3288
04:46:25,200 --> 04:46:30,700
And does it fence? If we fence the entire site does it still have to be the seven foot fence that we want to get?

3289
04:46:32,580 --> 04:46:34,680
So there's no flexibility on that.

3290
04:46:36,920 --> 04:46:40,840
And then on the land, you'll alternative site 3, the land use question.

3291
04:46:43,140 --> 04:46:51,300
If we were to set it take, if we were to take site 3, same size, lot, the same exact size.

3292
04:46:51,560 --> 04:46:56,460
Can we just do a land swap with the current tracking and just make that dedicated open space?

3293
04:46:57,120 --> 04:47:02,440
I know it's still trigger the potential of a vote, but can we make that?

3294
04:47:02,440 --> 04:47:03,060
Kind of swap?

3295
04:47:03,440 --> 04:47:03,460
No.

3296
04:47:04,140 --> 04:47:08,200
Well, yes, but you still have to go through the change in use process.

3297
04:47:08,720 --> 04:47:10,360
So it could still potentially be a vote,

3298
04:47:10,560 --> 04:47:13,360
but it's still require roughly 1,000 signatures

3299
04:47:14,000 --> 04:47:15,900
of residents who wanted to put to the ballot.

3300
04:47:17,240 --> 04:47:17,720
Roughly.

3301
04:47:17,720 --> 04:47:18,600
Roughly, OK.

3302
04:47:20,580 --> 04:47:22,380
But it still requires a petition.

3303
04:47:22,940 --> 04:47:25,780
But for the payment, because we have to pay a payment,

3304
04:47:26,080 --> 04:47:28,440
could that be taken care of with just the lens swap?

3305
04:47:28,440 --> 04:47:34,280
Yeah, just compensation can include a lay and soft that's dependent on the circumstance.

3306
04:47:35,260 --> 04:47:37,220
Okay, there's a lot of questions. Thank you, Mayor.

3307
04:47:37,440 --> 04:47:39,080
Thank you. Councilmember Henkel.

3308
04:47:42,460 --> 04:47:43,060
Thank you, Mayor.

3309
04:47:43,560 --> 04:47:48,040
The fact that we're sitting up here is still asking questions is highly concerning to me.

3310
04:47:48,840 --> 04:47:57,120
The fact that we are delayed as a city and county in planning this for future development is highly concerning to me.

3311
04:47:57,120 --> 04:48:00,960
A lot of our residents only have 34 PSI as it is.

3312
04:48:01,120 --> 04:48:05,180
So we're actually under what we need as it is.

3313
04:48:05,220 --> 04:48:08,140
And I understand that and they need,

3314
04:48:08,140 --> 04:48:10,960
I'm assuming that they need their own water pumps to do that.

3315
04:48:11,620 --> 04:48:13,840
So that's just where my mind is going right now.

3316
04:48:13,860 --> 04:48:15,860
And I would like to look into it's security.

3317
04:48:17,140 --> 04:48:20,480
If it is buried, it's just to make sure that the hatch and event are secured.

3318
04:48:20,540 --> 04:48:22,600
I'm not sure that we need more than that.

3319
04:48:23,060 --> 04:48:24,680
I have a question about sound.

3320
04:48:24,680 --> 04:48:33,120
Um, have we really assessed sound in the, um, in the, um, in the pump stations and what that

3321
04:48:33,120 --> 04:48:35,200
could look like or sound like?

3322
04:48:47,690 --> 04:48:53,430
And that is a reason Council, um, that the pump station is located as we're building it

3323
04:48:53,430 --> 04:48:57,690
into the, um, hill is to minimize its,

3324
04:48:59,770 --> 04:49:04,550
its look and to help with the, the sound, but it is a double wall

3325
04:49:04,550 --> 04:49:13,230
construction so that you won't hear it. We do have a pump station at Carbon Root, which is on a 136.

3326
04:49:14,810 --> 04:49:18,630
And at that station you don't hear it when it is running.

3327
04:49:19,750 --> 04:49:23,650
So what is the decibel level at then? When you open the door?

3328
04:49:25,210 --> 04:49:28,810
I know idea what it is inside. Outside you don't hear it.

3329
04:49:29,130 --> 04:49:30,610
Outside there's zero decibel level.

3330
04:49:30,610 --> 04:49:32,070
Yeah, I'm part of it.

3331
04:49:32,330 --> 04:49:32,330
Yeah,

3332
04:49:35,230 --> 04:49:40,130
you can stand outside it and not hear it while it's pumping, while it's pumping, yes, while

3333
04:49:40,130 --> 04:49:40,750
it's operating.

3334
04:49:43,890 --> 04:49:48,870
All right, some other questions here, how will the water pressure be impacted during the building

3335
04:49:48,870 --> 04:49:49,850
process then?

3336
04:49:49,990 --> 04:49:55,670
So as we're building it, what does the water pressure look like during that and then how

3337
04:49:55,670 --> 04:49:57,690
are we protecting the water during that development?

3338
04:49:57,690 --> 04:50:00,630
During construction, there will be no impact.

3339
04:50:01,210 --> 04:50:06,470
The only time that we will impact the water line is when we are making the connections

3340
04:50:06,470 --> 04:50:08,670
into the existing lines.

3341
04:50:09,130 --> 04:50:13,790
That time we schedule it, we won't be doing it during a peak demand,

3342
04:50:14,810 --> 04:50:18,650
so that we will isolate the area,

3343
04:50:19,450 --> 04:50:22,470
and make sure that we have the area backfed,

3344
04:50:23,130 --> 04:50:26,530
and then we build everything up to it.

3345
04:50:26,530 --> 04:50:29,610
we get ready, we do the connection, we make it as quickly as possible.

3346
04:50:30,170 --> 04:50:33,570
So it happens in, this is a large size pipe.

3347
04:50:33,570 --> 04:50:35,930
So it's going to be a four to six-hour connection.

3348
04:50:36,830 --> 04:50:38,970
And at this point, no one will go out of water.

3349
04:50:39,430 --> 04:50:39,870
And this one.

3350
04:50:46,050 --> 04:50:48,290
Another question, just, I know that we've

3351
04:50:48,290 --> 04:50:50,190
been talking about the exhibit after documents.

3352
04:50:52,270 --> 04:50:54,210
Where's there any dates on them?

3353
04:50:54,210 --> 04:50:57,130
And where they were required to be sent to the city, correct?

3354
04:50:58,170 --> 04:50:59,850
But yet they have no dates on them.

3355
04:51:01,480 --> 04:51:06,700
So, the requirements from the subdivision improvement agreement was that they were to be recorded.

3356
04:51:07,320 --> 04:51:17,420
So that is different than being, for example, submitted with a building permit or verified by a certain date that they were intended to be recorded.

3357
04:51:18,100 --> 04:51:23,480
Recorded by the title company, or by who, yes, by the private entities involved in the sale.

3358
04:51:26,540 --> 04:51:32,220
Is there any laws on how long you keep that, or do we know anything about those exhibits on,

3359
04:51:32,220 --> 04:51:38,220
The intent would be that it would occur with the recording and be on file then with the city clerk's office.

3360
04:51:39,120 --> 04:51:44,340
Okay. So is it incumbent upon the homeowner then to submit that to the city and county?

3361
04:51:45,180 --> 04:51:48,420
No, it would occur with the home closing documents that are recorded.

3362
04:51:49,460 --> 04:51:52,460
Okay. I mean, that would be the way that that would typically occur.

3363
04:51:53,200 --> 04:52:01,340
Is there any trigger for, let's say, you're going to close, is there any trigger to notify anyone that that document has not been filled out?

3364
04:52:03,100 --> 04:52:08,860
No. Similar to the conversation that we had, when we did the notification requirements for

3365
04:52:08,860 --> 04:52:15,020
oil and gas, from field staff is not aware when these private transactions occur, and

3366
04:52:15,020 --> 04:52:20,960
so there really isn't an opportunity there to verify that it was included, that it was included

3367
04:52:20,960 --> 04:52:27,560
in the recording and that it took place, and we don't verify recorded documents to ensure

3368
04:52:27,560 --> 04:52:29,920
that all of these were done.

3369
04:52:30,420 --> 04:52:31,720
The agreement was made.

3370
04:52:31,880 --> 04:52:34,640
It was intended to occur as an extra level of protection

3371
04:52:34,640 --> 04:52:38,680
to help notify homeowners, but as they've verified,

3372
04:52:38,980 --> 04:52:41,460
it was not happening in the majority of cases.

3373
04:52:42,340 --> 04:52:43,220
OK, that's unfortunate.

3374
04:52:44,180 --> 04:52:46,180
They really should have been required to have it

3375
04:52:46,180 --> 04:52:49,780
sent to the city because that's our relationship with them.

3376
04:52:49,780 --> 04:52:51,900
We have that point of contact with them.

3377
04:52:52,000 --> 04:52:53,900
If we still have that relationship with them,

3378
04:52:53,900 --> 04:52:55,260
it needs to be sent to the city.

3379
04:52:55,260 --> 04:52:57,080
All right, two questions here.

3380
04:52:57,080 --> 04:53:01,980
I'm not motioning to do anything, but I'm just asking what are the results of what would

3381
04:53:01,980 --> 04:53:10,120
it look like, a motion to deny this application and could the application come through the

3382
04:53:10,120 --> 04:53:13,480
work process again, what would that look like if this is denied?

3383
04:53:18,630 --> 04:53:24,550
If Council were to make a recommendation or I'm sorry to make a motion of denial, the project

3384
04:53:24,550 --> 04:53:27,010
would need to start over the process.

3385
04:53:27,010 --> 04:53:31,890
So we would start with a neighborhood meeting with whatever new site is selected.

3386
04:53:32,970 --> 04:53:39,530
In fact, we'd probably need to do a study session for the new site as was done for this site.

3387
04:53:39,630 --> 04:53:45,390
So we'd probably start with a study session, review the new site, then a neighborhood meeting,

3388
04:53:45,390 --> 04:53:48,170
a neighborhood meeting could occur before or after.

3389
04:53:49,190 --> 04:53:54,430
And then it would go back through the site development plan amendment review process with staff,

3390
04:53:54,430 --> 04:53:59,030
followed by a recommendation from land use review commission and final review by city council.

3391
04:53:59,550 --> 04:54:03,790
You have the second part of your question was a remand back to land use review commission.

3392
04:54:04,270 --> 04:54:09,970
If there was a significant amendment to the application and there was a remand back to the land use review commission.

3393
04:54:10,510 --> 04:54:13,270
They would review the application that's not a denial.

3394
04:54:13,530 --> 04:54:16,350
It would be a revision of this particular plan.

3395
04:54:17,030 --> 04:54:22,250
And it would be need to be a significant amendment that could potentially have changed their recommendation.

3396
04:54:22,250 --> 04:54:24,790
and then it would come back to City Council.

3397
04:54:26,670 --> 04:54:31,310
Probably based on the findings that they had and going back to remain this.

3398
04:54:31,530 --> 04:54:31,770
Yes.

3399
04:54:32,670 --> 04:54:37,990
And then what would it look like if we continue the conversation and we said, hey, let's vary it like we've promised?

3400
04:54:38,990 --> 04:54:40,310
A revision to the plan.

3401
04:54:41,370 --> 04:54:50,630
Probably would need to be a table discussion rather than it continued to a date certain unless someone has more knowledge than I do about how long that would take.

3402
04:54:50,630 --> 04:54:57,310
But depending on the request, if it was bearing the tank, we would need to, I believe,

3403
04:54:57,550 --> 04:55:03,330
have at least a couple of months to review, revise the plan, and then bring it back forward

3404
04:55:03,330 --> 04:55:05,130
for city council's consideration.

3405
04:55:06,010 --> 04:55:15,050
So I think we had estimated, probably, sorry, three to five, six months, and with an extended

3406
04:55:15,050 --> 04:55:21,950
time like that. I think it's labeling the motion to allow staff to make a recommendation

3407
04:55:21,950 --> 04:55:27,910
maybe preferable rather than a continuance to a date certain because then we would

3408
04:55:27,910 --> 04:55:35,070
re-notice for that new hearing date because it would be brought forward again such in the future.

3409
04:55:41,820 --> 04:55:44,840
Thank you very much, I'm done. Thank you. Mayor Brutem.

3410
04:55:46,540 --> 04:55:51,080
Thank you quickly. I'm just trying to figure out the unclear earlier on the pace for this

3411
04:55:51,080 --> 04:55:56,160
again. So if we decided to go back to the, you know, let's say bury the tank and I was going

3412
04:55:56,160 --> 04:56:04,120
to cost $8 million. I heard that you're spending to Council Member MerchHolishin that's

3413
04:56:04,120 --> 04:56:10,460
this would come out of the CIP budget and for the water and it would be paid through the

3414
04:56:10,460 --> 04:56:14,040
tap fees again. But when I was asking the questions, it was my understanding that would come from

3415
04:56:14,040 --> 04:56:19,000
more than just the tap fees. So just trying to figure out where that, which is the right answer.

3416
04:56:19,000 --> 04:56:29,400
So, between the CIPs and the, so we, here's the, the tough part of, we know what's coming

3417
04:56:29,400 --> 04:56:36,380
online that requires tap fees, and we know what we estimate is coming online, that includes

3418
04:56:36,380 --> 04:56:37,240
the tap fees.

3419
04:56:37,640 --> 04:56:47,450
So we would go back and have to rework what we brought to Council last week.

3420
04:56:47,450 --> 04:56:53,590
So right now in the 2024 budget that we're bringing forward includes the $80 million dollars.

3421
04:56:53,690 --> 04:57:00,990
If there was additional, if there was additional CIP, we would have to rework.

3422
04:57:01,590 --> 04:57:09,650
Again, we're not going to be able to pay $8 million based on additional tap fees that we don't know about yet.

3423
04:57:10,250 --> 04:57:13,570
So we would have to rework existing CIPs.

3424
04:57:13,570 --> 04:57:14,990
got to come from somewhere.

3425
04:57:17,010 --> 04:57:24,110
And so if we said, let's bury the tanks, we would rework, we'd

3426
04:57:24,110 --> 04:57:32,650
have to rework the CIP to find the additional funds to bury the tank. It would also,

3427
04:57:33,630 --> 04:57:39,850
I mean, from a timing perspective, it's not as quick to turn around and say, okay, now

3428
04:57:39,850 --> 04:57:44,870
less variant, right? It would require a whole new redesign.

3429
04:57:47,010 --> 04:57:53,390
Well, I get to end us trying to, again, so it's got to come out of the CAP that's being paid for by the TAP fees.

3430
04:57:53,890 --> 04:57:55,770
How many TAP fees are we expecting in the future?

3431
04:57:56,370 --> 04:58:01,240
20,000, 10,000 by how many?

3432
04:58:01,340 --> 04:58:02,400
I don't know.

3433
04:58:02,680 --> 04:58:02,720
Okay.

3434
04:58:04,140 --> 04:58:11,060
It's trying to figure out what that would mean is it's extra $400 per TAP fee, extra $500 extra $2,000.

3435
04:58:11,060 --> 04:58:11,860
I'm

3436
04:58:14,000 --> 04:58:17,600
just I don't want to do I don't want to say anything off the cuff.

3437
04:58:19,810 --> 04:58:21,190
That doesn't help me

3438
04:58:24,290 --> 04:58:25,450
from the brain thing. I'll thank you

3439
04:58:30,380 --> 04:58:31,120
May I protect?

3440
04:58:32,680 --> 04:58:36,600
All right, any other council member questions for second round?

3441
04:58:40,270 --> 04:58:43,610
They know. Okay, council member Anderson. Two minutes

3442
04:58:44,490 --> 04:58:49,750
Thanks, it's not a completely formed thought here, but okay, so when we approve this as

3443
04:58:49,750 --> 04:58:53,870
Is then there is no moving on the height of the is there any opportunity?

3444
04:58:55,650 --> 04:59:17,150
This design isn't complete yet, but in that, can there be direction that if there's any possibility to further lower the tanks in any way, as we're looking within the cost, is this the height? Are we approving that exact height tonight? Is it at all flexible, give direction to try to go a little lower, try to bear, this is why I just want to understand what we're approving.

3445
04:59:17,150 --> 04:59:23,070
Right, so the site development plan amendment this evening does show the final design of the

3446
04:59:23,070 --> 04:59:29,330
tank including the partial buried in the final elevations for the trail as we believe

3447
04:59:29,330 --> 04:59:34,010
it is, you know, the best that we can for now until we stake it in the field.

3448
04:59:35,940 --> 04:59:42,700
I'm not sure it has to ask you, but I still appreciate that the trail is higher than the hilltop, so thank you.

3449
04:59:42,700 --> 04:59:43,560
Thank you.

3450
04:59:43,560 --> 04:59:44,320
Anyone else?

3451
04:59:51,190 --> 04:59:57,370
The next is Council's consideration, a proposed resolution 2023-999.

3452
04:59:57,490 --> 04:59:59,970
Will the clerk please read proposed resolution 2020?

3453
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:09,820
223-99 by title. Resolution number 23-99, approving the anthem filing number 24, broomfield,

3454
05:00:09,820 --> 05:00:16,140
lotter tanks and pump station, site development plan amendment and use of less than one acre of city owned space.

3455
05:00:16,600 --> 05:00:18,720
Thank you, is there motion council member shaft?

3456
05:00:19,560 --> 05:00:23,160
Thank you, Mayor. I move that resolution number 2399 be adopted.

3457
05:00:23,780 --> 05:00:27,000
Thank you, is there a second? Council member Ward?

3458
05:00:27,520 --> 05:00:29,020
I accept the resolution.

3459
05:00:30,360 --> 05:00:30,680
Thank you.

3460
05:00:30,900 --> 05:00:31,980
Is there any discussion?

3461
05:00:33,660 --> 05:00:35,340
I have to remember Marshall's in.

3462
05:00:36,160 --> 05:00:36,620
Thank you, Mayor.

3463
05:00:38,500 --> 05:00:40,220
I honestly have no idea how I'm going to vote tonight.

3464
05:00:41,180 --> 05:00:42,380
I started this process.

3465
05:00:42,680 --> 05:00:45,280
I've supported this project at study session.

3466
05:00:45,620 --> 05:00:49,660
I might even propose that we put them completely above ground to save the extra $7 million.

3467
05:00:51,700 --> 05:00:56,400
But the more I hear about it and the more I hear from residents and

3468
05:00:57,060 --> 05:01:06,600
I just don't know, you know, I went up, I drove up with my son yesterday to kind of walk around the site because I've never been up there before and it is a spectacular view.

3469
05:01:08,100 --> 05:01:24,400
On one hand, I don't think this project will completely ruin the view. I understand the perspective, but you're still going to re-do the overlook and you'll still be able to see the flat irons, you won't have the 360 view that you have now and I understand that.

3470
05:01:25,280 --> 05:01:31,400
But we have water issues, we have water issues that we have to solve, so on one hand, I want to approve this.

3471
05:01:32,340 --> 05:01:39,220
On the other hand, and it's, I'm not in any way blaming our current staff, but I feel like I'm being asked to make a decision with a gun to my head,

3472
05:01:39,400 --> 05:01:42,300
because half to do it now, or we run out of water.

3473
05:01:43,300 --> 05:01:47,260
I don't think that's a good way of making a decision, and I'm torn.

3474
05:01:48,480 --> 05:01:52,600
So, I don't know where I'm at right now, I want to hear from other colleagues if they have any thoughts.

3475
05:01:53,380 --> 05:01:54,340
Thank you.

3476
05:01:54,980 --> 05:01:56,600
Council Member Shaft.

3477
05:01:57,900 --> 05:01:58,160
Thank you, Mayor.

3478
05:01:58,540 --> 05:02:00,100
So I went to visit the site today.

3479
05:02:00,220 --> 05:02:02,680
I did not have any conversations with anyone while there.

3480
05:02:03,400 --> 05:02:05,680
We need these tanks and we need them up north.

3481
05:02:06,200 --> 05:02:09,340
Full of bearing the tanks, the current site does not preserve the site and the

3482
05:02:09,340 --> 05:02:10,100
hilltop viewpoint.

3483
05:02:10,780 --> 05:02:15,740
So the decision before us has to put this project on the hill as was designed in the original plans and

3484
05:02:15,740 --> 05:02:21,240
disclosed the most of the anthem reserve home buyers or on a shorter hill.

3485
05:02:21,240 --> 05:02:26,620
next to the residents of Spruce Meadows or Silver Leaf and those residents that have had

3486
05:02:26,620 --> 05:02:32,480
no notice of its site in those locations. This site was set aside years ago with the development

3487
05:02:32,480 --> 05:02:37,680
for a water tank project. Even with one very tank, like many of the Anthony Reserve homeowners

3488
05:02:37,680 --> 05:02:43,080
have mentioned, this hilltop was going to be disturbed and unavailable to access. I appreciate the

3489
05:02:43,080 --> 05:02:50,060
due diligence of staff to answer the many questions of residents and even complete alternative

3490
05:02:50,060 --> 05:02:55,560
site analysis. This project has not only ensured the engineering standards for proper water

3491
05:02:55,560 --> 05:03:00,120
needs, but also has accommodated some of the requests of residents and some in full support

3492
05:03:00,120 --> 05:03:03,760
of this project tonight. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Hanko.

3493
05:03:08,160 --> 05:03:11,000
Okay. I say it like it is sometimes.

3494
05:03:12,160 --> 05:03:21,220
I don't think we should punish the residents in the area for what I feel is the lack of due diligence.

3495
05:03:23,380 --> 05:03:29,740
Here's more of my thought is, I really feel like we, I will not be approving it as is.

3496
05:03:29,740 --> 05:03:31,140
I realize we need water.

3497
05:03:32,480 --> 05:03:33,660
This is always been the case.

3498
05:03:33,720 --> 05:03:36,260
Everyone just came up to that podium and said that that's the case.

3499
05:03:37,140 --> 05:03:38,960
No one's denying that.

3500
05:03:39,040 --> 05:03:45,860
The issue is, as we shouldn't, for instance, you know, I shouldn't punish my kid

3501
05:03:45,860 --> 05:03:50,560
at, you know, when they go to school and I'm making them late, that's my fault.

3502
05:03:51,240 --> 05:03:58,420
We need to really be humble in this and make sure that we are very honest about what was

3503
05:03:58,420 --> 05:04:00,720
promised, what has always been promised to them.

3504
05:04:01,600 --> 05:04:05,080
I realized that we said that you know, fencing is going to be around it.

3505
05:04:05,540 --> 05:04:09,980
There's different ways to protect water now, other than a large fence.

3506
05:04:11,700 --> 05:04:17,400
What I will say is I would love to support at least tabling this because I understand we need

3507
05:04:17,400 --> 05:04:17,760
water.

3508
05:04:19,200 --> 05:04:24,560
I would support tabling this to see if we can bury the tank.

3509
05:04:26,880 --> 05:04:30,700
Because I feel like that's the best next best option for everyone.

3510
05:04:31,940 --> 05:04:35,180
And I feel like, you know, that just needs to be done.

3511
05:04:36,040 --> 05:04:41,060
All that other council members weigh in, but I cannot approve this right now as it is.

3512
05:04:47,560 --> 05:04:47,880
Sorry.

3513
05:04:48,580 --> 05:04:54,160
It's been spending the night in search of the least worst decision that we can make.

3514
05:04:55,780 --> 05:05:02,980
And like Councilmember Henkel, if we seek another alternative, it looks like we're looking

3515
05:05:02,980 --> 05:05:10,840
at a two year delay and it puts our water system in a difficult position, an untenable position

3516
05:05:10,840 --> 05:05:13,820
in terms of water pressure and protection from fire.

3517
05:05:13,820 --> 05:05:20,240
to Councilmember Henkel's point, if we table and ask staff to fully bury the tanks that's

3518
05:05:20,240 --> 05:05:27,600
less delay maybe six months and makes it possible for us to fill our obligations on water supply.

3519
05:05:28,780 --> 05:05:35,200
And perhaps at least somewhat halfway meet the promise that was made to the homeowners up there that we would

3520
05:05:35,200 --> 05:05:36,220
bury it.

3521
05:05:36,760 --> 05:05:43,420
I think we have over 10 years of engineering that says this is the most efficient, most

3522
05:05:44,160 --> 05:05:48,860
best engineering site for this water system, or for these tanks.

3523
05:05:50,060 --> 05:05:53,820
So there is no good solution at all, please anybody, but I at this point would support

3524
05:05:53,820 --> 05:05:58,180
tabling for the motion to fully bury the tanks.

3525
05:05:58,420 --> 05:06:02,820
I realize that still, please a tank in the neighborhood, I realize it's still two years of construction

3526
05:06:02,820 --> 05:06:10,740
hell, but I think it does preserve the site as best we can and potentially enhance it

3527
05:06:10,740 --> 05:06:16,640
with more trails and higher viewpoints so that hopefully in a couple years we'll have a

3528
05:06:16,640 --> 05:06:19,820
better ridge there as best we can come up with.

3529
05:06:20,920 --> 05:06:23,780
Councillor member Cohen, are you making a motion to table?

3530
05:06:24,720 --> 05:06:30,500
I will make a motion that we table with the direction to come back with a plan to fully bury

3531
05:06:30,500 --> 05:06:31,300
the tanks.

3532
05:06:32,650 --> 05:06:39,590
So I need a second for that. Is there a second? Second. Councilmember Henkel. Second.

3533
05:06:39,870 --> 05:06:46,910
So there's a motion in a second. Before we vote on the motion. Is there any discussion

3534
05:06:46,910 --> 05:06:48,390
on the motion to table?

3535
05:06:50,840 --> 05:06:51,660
Councilmember Lim.

3536
05:06:53,900 --> 05:06:56,840
Could this staff please clarify as Councilmember

3537
05:06:58,260 --> 05:07:05,880
Cohen characterized it. The motion to table and bury it and bury the tanks would just

3538
05:07:05,880 --> 05:07:12,560
present a six-month delay. Is that accurate from staff's perspective?

3539
05:07:14,800 --> 05:07:17,560
It's really hard for us to estimate, but I think that's

3540
05:07:17,560 --> 05:07:22,480
we're saying six months at least of design work,

3541
05:07:24,760 --> 05:07:30,540
and then to bring it back as a fully finalized site development plan more time.

3542
05:07:33,520 --> 05:07:40,200
So the issue becomes, so there's the design work that I, this thick six months and what

3543
05:07:40,200 --> 05:07:45,900
the remedied me of is, once that is completed, it does have to come back into staff.

3544
05:07:46,380 --> 05:07:53,480
And we need to have an opportunity to review that those revised drawings we could go back

3545
05:07:53,480 --> 05:07:55,440
and forth a couple of times.

3546
05:07:55,880 --> 05:07:58,840
So there is, it's probably more than six months, unfortunately.

3547
05:08:01,220 --> 05:08:10,460
And that would be to, we would be amending this plan just to make sure it's clear, it's not, we wouldn't bring forward both, you're bringing forward a revised plan.

3548
05:08:11,220 --> 05:08:14,800
And is it accurate that it would not have to go back to lurk?

3549
05:08:16,120 --> 05:08:20,560
Unless that was the motion to remand it to lurk it would not need to.

3550
05:08:20,560 --> 05:08:22,320
a lot of

3551
05:08:26,960 --> 05:08:28,280
their discussion, may I pretend?

3552
05:08:29,400 --> 05:08:31,440
Yeah, so this is definitely torn, torn me as well.

3553
05:08:31,640 --> 05:08:33,320
We certainly need the water.

3554
05:08:34,360 --> 05:08:36,860
And I get it as a resident if I were, you guys,

3555
05:08:37,100 --> 05:08:39,440
I'd be upset by this as well.

3556
05:08:40,380 --> 05:08:45,240
I can't say went into this skeptical as a 20 year resident

3557
05:08:45,240 --> 05:08:46,800
in a most abrupt field.

3558
05:08:47,480 --> 05:08:48,820
I did agree with one of the comments earlier.

3559
05:08:48,900 --> 05:08:52,340
I think the biggest scar on this area

3560
05:08:52,340 --> 05:08:53,480
is the houses that are up there.

3561
05:08:53,480 --> 05:08:56,920
It was a beautiful, I remember when it was just an open space.

3562
05:08:58,000 --> 05:09:01,400
So little skeptical of anyone is complaining that this is going to ruin the area.

3563
05:09:02,780 --> 05:09:08,160
But haven't said that you've convinced me tonight that there's still something there to save.

3564
05:09:09,080 --> 05:09:14,240
So I would support the current motion to, I think that's as close to, as council member.

3565
05:09:15,320 --> 05:09:20,240
Leslie mentions close to, as a win-win, as we can possibly get, I think in this situation.

3566
05:09:21,100 --> 05:09:27,900
There's going to be a delay is going to be some increase cost to the new homes that are going to be able to guess in the future.

3567
05:09:28,200 --> 05:09:29,460
Sounds like.

3568
05:09:30,740 --> 05:09:34,440
But I guess that sort of preserves as much as possible.

3569
05:09:35,000 --> 05:09:44,300
But also, let me see if it be ongoing expenses and it gets its minimal delay, but not an extensive delay.

3570
05:09:45,000 --> 05:09:48,060
So I will support that motion tonight.

3571
05:09:48,060 --> 05:09:49,140
Thank you.

3572
05:09:49,340 --> 05:09:49,420
Thank you.

3573
05:09:50,040 --> 05:09:50,600
Thank

3574
05:09:53,670 --> 05:09:54,590
you.

3575
05:09:57,150 --> 05:09:57,930
Thank you, Mayor.

3576
05:09:58,210 --> 05:09:58,990
So I just want to clarify.

3577
05:09:59,570 --> 05:10:09,110
So we are table in this to have staff revise the site plans to fully bury the tanks

3578
05:10:09,110 --> 05:10:10,890
at the current site.

3579
05:10:11,170 --> 05:10:11,650
Is that correct?

3580
05:10:14,560 --> 05:10:16,460
So we are not looking at a different site.

3581
05:10:17,220 --> 05:10:22,480
I would ask that it sounds like that we will be working with the engineering firm through

3582
05:10:22,480 --> 05:10:27,980
those construction drawings will we have a better accurate, will we have a better idea of

3583
05:10:27,980 --> 05:10:31,900
the costs associated with fully bearing in those tanks at that point then?

3584
05:10:32,200 --> 05:10:38,640
You sense the process would include more full design of a new site or of the site with

3585
05:10:38,640 --> 05:10:43,000
the fully buried tank. Yes, we'd be able to provide an estimate when that was brought back

3586
05:10:43,000 --> 05:10:43,340
forward.

3587
05:10:43,840 --> 05:10:44,720
Okay, thanks.

3588
05:10:45,220 --> 05:10:45,920
Thank you.

3589
05:10:46,160 --> 05:10:46,900
Councillor member Hankle.

3590
05:10:48,020 --> 05:10:48,440
Thank you, Mayor.

3591
05:10:48,700 --> 05:10:51,840
I want to reiterate, because I probably won't have any other time to speak tonight, but

3592
05:10:51,840 --> 05:10:55,940
staff, you did your job. You found the best spot you could.

3593
05:10:56,480 --> 05:11:01,100
Residents, you did your job. You really spoke up and I really appreciate that.

3594
05:11:01,140 --> 05:11:05,800
So everyone's doing their job. I don't think this is an easy answer and I don't think anyone's

3595
05:11:05,800 --> 05:11:10,060
landing easy on it. It's almost like you just are walking and you spraying your ankle.

3596
05:11:11,260 --> 05:11:16,640
This is a very difficult decision. I even had a hard time listening to the work, hearing,

3597
05:11:16,640 --> 05:11:22,940
just listening to the access as well. So I also want to look at how we're accessing this site

3598
05:11:22,940 --> 05:11:29,340
as it's being built. I know for if you do two years of construction anywhere,

3599
05:11:30,340 --> 05:11:33,340
they're already going through all this construction right now. You can hear sounds throughout the

3600
05:11:33,340 --> 05:11:37,800
neighborhood right now. So that's why I mentioned sound as well. I think that's going to be very

3601
05:11:37,800 --> 05:11:42,980
important. So if we do go through this process, I also want to see something spoken about

3602
05:11:43,820 --> 05:11:50,240
you know, the accessibility and what that means to, you know, that front road, I think it's King's Court, I believe.

3603
05:11:51,100 --> 05:11:53,080
We need to make sure that we're listening to our residents.

3604
05:11:53,720 --> 05:11:59,400
So as we move forward, I would really advise us to reassess not only bearing the tanks,

3605
05:11:59,580 --> 05:12:02,980
but really making it less impactful for these families.

3606
05:12:03,220 --> 05:12:07,520
And I hope it does increase the pressure in everywhere in the neighborhood.

3607
05:12:07,600 --> 05:12:08,300
I know it will.

3608
05:12:08,300 --> 05:12:13,720
And I'm hoping that we don't have to revisit this again, as far as that northern area.

3609
05:12:13,940 --> 05:12:14,840
And I appreciate your answer.

3610
05:12:14,920 --> 05:12:19,400
I know that Mr. Red, that you said that we will not have to revisit this, because this

3611
05:12:19,400 --> 05:12:22,860
will service as we are at full build out at 1.25.

3612
05:12:24,080 --> 05:12:25,360
So I'm holding you to it.

3613
05:12:26,580 --> 05:12:26,780
All right.

3614
05:12:26,940 --> 05:12:27,320
Thank you.

3615
05:12:27,480 --> 05:12:27,960
That's all.

3616
05:12:28,060 --> 05:12:29,320
Thank you.

3617
05:12:29,800 --> 05:12:30,660
Council Member Anderson.

3618
05:12:34,480 --> 05:12:36,440
Here's the question I have on this.

3619
05:12:36,440 --> 05:12:43,600
actually. I supported this before to looking at alternatives. I still support it but I have

3620
05:12:43,600 --> 05:12:50,180
a little bit of a caution I thought here because if this was a location and we've been talking

3621
05:12:50,180 --> 05:12:56,020
about wanting to bury these tanks what kept staff from pursuing the fully buried option here

3622
05:12:56,020 --> 05:13:01,540
because I'm like we can direct you to go and and look into this design plan but do we actually

3623
05:13:02,220 --> 05:13:09,700
This is feasible, but it was it was just cost prohibitive and what if it's just cost prohibitive okay, and then so what if we get down this process

3624
05:13:09,700 --> 05:13:17,180
And we get the design documents and we get the bid it is even more than seven million dollars just simply cost prohibitive

3625
05:13:17,180 --> 05:13:21,180
Can we then just revert back to this plan and pick up where we left off right?

3626
05:13:21,280 --> 05:13:23,720
I just I would love to hear a little bit more about what

3627
05:13:24,300 --> 05:13:26,540
What happens or six months delayed and we

3628
05:13:28,880 --> 05:13:32,340
There's a piece here missing which is where that money is going to come from

3629
05:13:32,340 --> 05:13:39,060
That is the piece and it will

3630
05:13:41,500 --> 05:13:50,780
have to fully baked plant with dollar signs attached to both.

3631
05:13:51,400 --> 05:13:55,880
So we have two plans, this plan, the next plan, both have a dollar sign attached to

3632
05:13:55,880 --> 05:13:58,260
over six months on the road from where we are today.

3633
05:13:58,920 --> 05:14:02,240
And so it's always going to be that it's always going to be that ketchup,

3634
05:14:02,240 --> 05:14:21,720
Council member Anderson because a year from now when when we have this completed our nine months and we come back to council and we have an updated financial plan for the berry tanks then we'll have a 14 month

3635
05:14:21,720 --> 05:14:28,100
But still plan for the partially buried tanks.

3636
05:14:28,420 --> 05:14:36,800
So again, we're never going to have a, yeah, there's always going to be some.

3637
05:14:39,380 --> 05:14:44,560
So we'll be back here in this place in six months, talking about how we're going to find

3638
05:14:44,560 --> 05:14:48,480
the, we're going to have to re-look at the water study or what is the thought, I would love

3639
05:14:48,480 --> 05:14:52,860
you to thought process on this, we come back here, we have the new design, we have the

3640
05:14:52,860 --> 05:14:58,420
and then we start to discuss water rates. Is that, I mean, is that the step? Yes.

3641
05:15:00,210 --> 05:15:19,450
And we don't really, this is what I'm struggling because we're not eliminating any of the construction. We're not eliminating any of it. We're just, we're finally getting it buried and that kind of, I'm assuming, the pandemic view, but we're potentially going to be here saying we can't afford to do this or making that decision of raising the water rates.

3642
05:15:20,630 --> 05:15:27,050
It's essentially the same conversation that we're having right now, which is there's a finite amount of money.

3643
05:15:29,160 --> 05:15:36,580
There's the other caveats that we need to take in consideration with the slowing growth.

3644
05:15:38,440 --> 05:15:49,040
All of those complexities make this a difficult decision whether you make it tonight or whether you make it in six months or nine months or two years.

3645
05:15:55,060 --> 05:16:06,620
Councillor member Leslie. Thank you, Mayor. I support this motion. I think it shows our willingness to

3646
05:16:07,720 --> 05:16:11,580
listen, to explore some other alternatives.

3647
05:16:14,540 --> 05:16:17,020
Did you manage your Hawkins right? Certainly,

3648
05:16:17,400 --> 05:16:24,220
there are consequences to any decision that we make. Time is a variable here. We can't wait too long

3649
05:16:24,220 --> 05:16:27,420
because we do have the imperative of ensuring

3650
05:16:27,420 --> 05:16:30,580
the water pressure for everybody in broomfield

3651
05:16:30,580 --> 05:16:33,140
is where it needs to be.

3652
05:16:33,760 --> 05:16:36,460
But I do think this shows good faith on our part

3653
05:16:37,140 --> 05:16:39,780
to think a little bit further about this

3654
05:16:40,920 --> 05:16:45,020
to consider what had originally been stated.

3655
05:16:46,300 --> 05:16:49,940
I won't say Thomas, but stated about this project.

3656
05:16:51,260 --> 05:17:02,960
My only concern is, is the one that Council Member Anderson just sent a raise, which is okay, so it's cost prohibitive. We've wasted six months for back here again.

3657
05:17:04,340 --> 05:17:11,800
I still think that the third site has potential.

3658
05:17:11,800 --> 05:17:24,190
And maybe, and I appreciated the question about swapping whether we could perhaps swap a land and, you know, I know there are complications to everything we do.

3659
05:17:24,950 --> 05:17:41,690
But I do think it shows a good faith in our part that we know that there may be some other elements to a solution which will be in the best interest of the entire community.

3660
05:17:41,690 --> 05:17:45,850
So I'm going to support this proposal back here.

3661
05:17:47,090 --> 05:17:47,910
Thank you.

3662
05:17:48,090 --> 05:17:49,690
Any other discussion on the motion?

3663
05:17:52,950 --> 05:17:54,930
So we're going to vote on the motion.

3664
05:17:55,410 --> 05:17:57,430
Will the clerk please call the roll.

3665
05:17:59,510 --> 05:18:00,130
Jisersky?

3666
05:18:00,170 --> 05:18:00,710
Yes.

3667
05:18:02,090 --> 05:18:02,370
Leslie.

3668
05:18:03,150 --> 05:18:03,450
Yes.

3669
05:18:03,990 --> 05:18:04,250
Lim.

3670
05:18:04,790 --> 05:18:05,090
Yes.

3671
05:18:05,590 --> 05:18:05,830
Marshall.

3672
05:18:06,170 --> 05:18:06,390
Yes.

3673
05:18:07,170 --> 05:18:07,570
Shaff.

3674
05:18:07,870 --> 05:18:08,110
No.

3675
05:18:08,750 --> 05:18:09,030
Ward.

3676
05:18:10,810 --> 05:18:11,450
Anderson.

3677
05:18:14,930 --> 05:18:15,190
Cohen.

3678
05:18:15,910 --> 05:18:16,130
Yes.

3679
05:18:17,530 --> 05:18:20,190
Delgadillo, no, hankle, yes,

3680
05:18:22,400 --> 05:18:23,620
passes, 73.

3681
05:18:25,740 --> 05:18:28,320
So Mayor, you have to go back, yeah, hold on, y'all.

3682
05:18:28,800 --> 05:18:31,440
A couple, a couple items for Council to consider.

3683
05:18:31,920 --> 05:18:34,920
That was a motion to table at a date that staff will set

3684
05:18:34,920 --> 05:18:38,340
when the revised application is ready for Council's review.

3685
05:18:38,780 --> 05:18:41,340
This is a table of a quasi-judicial matter.

3686
05:18:41,940 --> 05:18:43,740
I know you're not going to be thrilled to see this,

3687
05:18:44,000 --> 05:18:47,240
but we're still quasi-judicial, which means I still need you to be careful

3688
05:18:47,240 --> 05:18:49,180
about ex-part-take conversations.

3689
05:18:49,880 --> 05:18:51,980
This is also for the public as well.

3690
05:18:52,400 --> 05:18:53,780
As land use decision makers,

3691
05:18:53,980 --> 05:18:56,360
you need to make the decision based on what's in the records.

3692
05:18:56,800 --> 05:19:00,540
So continue to focus residents, our direction.

3693
05:19:01,160 --> 05:19:02,600
We can respond to the requests.

3694
05:19:02,680 --> 05:19:06,280
We can add it to the record and make sure that all council members

3695
05:19:06,280 --> 05:19:09,500
are seeing what individual councilors might get asked.

3696
05:19:09,960 --> 05:19:13,280
Are there any questions about the continuing quasi-judicial nature?

3697
05:19:14,840 --> 05:19:16,120
Yes, question real quick.

3698
05:19:16,120 --> 05:19:19,280
Could we reference what we've already said from the dias?

3699
05:19:19,520 --> 05:19:19,980
Yes.

3700
05:19:20,060 --> 05:19:20,400
Okay.

3701
05:19:21,020 --> 05:19:21,100
Yes.

3702
05:19:21,160 --> 05:19:21,900
Thank you.

3703
05:19:22,140 --> 05:19:23,360
Anything that's been public.

3704
05:19:23,640 --> 05:19:27,200
Anything that's been public, anything that's on the voice correspondence,

3705
05:19:27,900 --> 05:19:28,680
et cetera, et cetera.

3706
05:19:28,920 --> 05:19:30,020
The lurk hearing.

3707
05:19:31,480 --> 05:19:31,780
All right.

3708
05:19:32,740 --> 05:19:33,560
Well, all right.

3709
05:19:33,900 --> 05:19:37,640
Well, I think everyone who played a part in this evening,

3710
05:19:37,640 --> 05:19:42,940
and I appreciate you hanging in with us for a very long night.

3711
05:19:42,940 --> 05:19:47,440
So we'll see you back soon, thank you.

3712
05:19:47,520 --> 05:19:48,380
Thank you all.

3713
05:19:50,500 --> 05:19:53,420
The City and County Attorney's report is next.

3714
05:19:53,560 --> 05:19:55,520
Ms. Rogers, do you have a report?

3715
05:19:55,640 --> 05:19:56,520
No, thank you, Mayor.

3716
05:19:57,240 --> 05:19:57,480
All right.

3717
05:19:57,680 --> 05:19:59,260
City and County Manager's report.

3718
05:19:59,520 --> 05:20:00,480
No, no thanks.

3719
05:20:01,220 --> 05:20:03,380
There is no legislative update or business

3720
05:20:03,380 --> 05:20:05,460
before the room filled urban renewal authority

3721
05:20:05,460 --> 05:20:07,360
or the Aristol Local Improvement District

3722
05:20:07,360 --> 05:20:08,920
Board of Directors this evening.

3723
05:20:09,440 --> 05:20:11,220
Additionally, there are no special reports

3724
05:20:11,220 --> 05:20:13,380
or requests for few draftions this evening,

3725
05:20:13,380 --> 05:20:17,400
concluding the items on this evening's agenda. Is there any other business

3726
05:20:17,400 --> 05:20:22,460
to come before the council? Seeing none, the council meeting is adjourned.