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OK, guys, ready? >> But everybody their seats.
What? Everybody please grab a seat. Pretty please. We've got to we've got a quorum. So have
to. To attend to to a time. Yeah, we With the Broward Sheriff's Please arrest
anybody that's not sitting down. Please. Yeah, ready Try going to rush it now. says 16
time. Good morning, everybody. Today June 16th 2026. Welcome to Broward County Commission
meeting and the like We're gonna go through Pledge of everyone, everyone, all the
everybody please rise you know, I'm gonna have a because this one, the last few
meetings he'll be have Mr. Myers. And then, know, he's here till November, Mr. Myers
lead us into the Pledge of Allegiance. Leave it think to United States of America and
sense one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for Mr. Meyers, that
was incredible. The way you let everybody you know, it was incredible. Thank you.
>> Liz Jones customers every moment silence in honor notable persons from our
community who have recently go around that this going on or anybody. We have Okay.
Commissioner Davis and Commissioner Rogers in the fall.
>> Going once. the among enough. And can you Yes, we can hear you. Okay. If you
want interjected all just let me run recognize anybody >> We're going to let us also
honor all the brave men and women who have served and continue to serve in our armed
forces both here and abroad and thank them for their service opposed pause for a
moment of silence. Thank you. Can you please take your seats?
>> We got a very hopefully a very short regular agenda here and wanted to.
>> First to get some some. General counsel. We need to identify are canvassing board
representative for the summer primary in a special plantation election. The
county attorney informs me that the mayor is the county commission's representative on
the canvassing board. Unless the mayor is unable to serve. And since I am unable to serve
under administrative code, the roll past is automatically to the vice mayor. If he's able
to serve. Vice mayor, can you serve? yes, I can okay. The county attorney also informs
me that I should point her alternate member or members. Is anyone willing to
volunteer? I'll be an alternate. You'll be an alternate, OK with your
mission. We give it 2 of them up. You have to we have to alternate council ago for 3.
Maybe the whole Okay. So so I'm gonna recognize Lamar Fisher and Michael, you Dean
as alternate members of the canvassing board. That business is done right? was
that. Was that a really good? It was a scripted to the strip. Well, okay. Great made
I want to take literally 60 seconds live. Some pictures for him when we went to Japan
and Taiwan, we signed her first agreement and then the whole goal is to see about
monetizing monetizing the agreement and I'll know in a couple months how we can
monetize the agreement with our business community. And I was signing an agreement with
the mayor of Kong County in Taiwan, Taiwan being our 4th largest trading partner. And
do we have those quick pictures? Because they're they're pretty there's not.
Those pictures Mike. Other up there. Okay. There's Keep on scrolling. Go next.
>> Your next And then we give the key to the county. And I think it's then hold it. The
gentleman in the middle is from the State Department. I don't know that don't know
invited them, but State Department and then we had some other people from sister
cities and and from Florida that came there. But otherwise, again, talked with
Sandy, Michael McDonald. I think we're on the same page and we're going to see how we
can monetize this. So we show that we're helping our community, our business
community and we'll get back August on that. That's it. Get rid of the picture. Thank you
what are you clapping for? >> I for government enter your meeting. ID followed by how
get everybody enter meeting ID. Please. count. You have not entered any committee.
This is our a billion-dollar telecommunication one. say Rowe, this meeting ID does not
exist. Okay. No more meeting ID's. Okay. Second, we're here regarding the.
>> The Spirit building. passed out something. I want to let everybody know what happened
yesterday. We had a meeting here yesterday was the people from Cisco Monica and her team
up to see how we Is there a way to save more money if we move if we move forward and if
it is, you see from down here instead of having big huge offices, which we don't need
to have standard offices. We reduce the office building from 100 and some million to
70 Million. This is this in the people from Cisco which are here. These were not exact
numbers. But guesstimate numbers and basically comes down to 274 million, 600,000
so basically, we added we saved if you look at the the white sheet just summarizing.
We saved basically 300, nearly 350 million, not 200 Million. We would save 300 and
50 million dollars. I'm happy to have Monica go through show you how we know. We just
instead of taking the original numbers which are bigger offices and everything now we
have a point of saving 350 Million. And I just think that's important of taxpayer
money. that we can say and it's huge amount of money. know, go love for affordable
housing for a lot of other programs here. But holding up a sheet? Yes, sir. whenever
you get a chance to Monday night. Tuesday morning memo, this is item 2. Yes, OK, I
just want and what I've just open the item whenever you're right. And others were
preliminary comments. OK, so okay, so lets. >> We'll do that Tuesday
morning memo. And then we'll come back to this real quickly and then we'll move on to our
next Go ahead. Real quick. >> Tuesday agenda memorandum the following are submitted
for your consideration. Consent items. 9 public hearing items, 9 regular items
are one through to a request. The following withdraws another modification. See the
agenda the following additional information withdrawal. The deferrals
item, one tougher to August. 20th 2026 meeting. Other modifications item to the
board's consideration is based upon the item with the amendments, including the
additional motion statement shown in addition, material submitted by the county
attorney's office and adoption of Budget resolutions shown an additional material to be in
to see submitted by the Office of Management and Budget Move to consent. 9 additional
material item amendments. An additional motion statement submitted by office of the
County Attorney Item to be exhibit for Budget resolution for motion. See submitted by
Office of Management and Budget Item to see Exhibit 5 budget resolution for a motion
to be submitted by Office of Management and Budget Item to the memo to the board
submitted by county attorney's Office. Item 2, a motion to waive Section 6.19 6.20 of the
Broward County Administrative Code in the best interest of the county to permit the
transaction describe emotion be to be motion to authorize county administrator to
negotiate and execute agreements and take all action is necessary to acquire the
property located at 17. 0, 1, through 17. 41 Radiant Drive. A 17, 30 Manor Street, Dania
Beach to see motion to adopt budget resolution transferring funds for reserve within the
General fund in the amount of 4 million, 426,000, $946 to provide partial funding for
the potential purchase of the property. 2 D motion to adopt budget resolution transferring
funds for preserve within the general capital outlay funds in the amount of 95 Million.
$573,054 to provide partial funding for the potential purchase of the property. One
member of the public has signed up to speak on the item.
>> Okay. unopened item to write Council of as it is. Monica who did this? Who who
typed this cheetah? Drafted this year? Staff those and your staff.
>> The 6/16/2026 spirit meeting that was yesterday and it it is. Who who directed
this, you know. I don't know, sir. Okay. So there's words in here that I don't like it. I
want to make sure everybody understands it says that the bare-bones spear renovation,
this is not. Do you have a copy of that you know what you're looking OK? probably
from. I want to show everybody. You've been to the Senator, you've been to the
building. Have you been building not it would have been in that so easily. I got
it's OK, I know many times. You only say it's OK. you've not that they're out. Okay.
You've been there have even. Okay. today I want to spend 3 full minutes bringing the
building deal. in the back. Let's bring the building. I just want you to see that.
It's actually 67 6, 1280 seconds. Can you go? So these are works. Okay. You won't
find. I just want you to see the workstations how this is just example of one of the 6
floors keep going. This isn't so they have offices there, too. These are beautiful. That
brand new offices keep going. Another office keep going. Another office. This is a this
is just outside area of their offices. It's not all work stations keep going. You can't
continue. This is a every floor believe has a kitchen which obviously don't need
that every floor, as is everything again, this is the first floor when you walk in
this huge area for people to sit meet, keep going. This is just a quick 60nd video. Just
to give you an idea of the quality of the building and the carpeting looks brand new
everything there looks brand new and every floors the same. You can workstations that
look, brand new carpeting in offices. Also, you could move in. The plug is working. Air
conditioning is working electric twerking. If you had, obviously we have to things to
the building that's ready to move in right now, according to them, everything works
except there's you have to go. Comcast. Xfinity to get Internet. The only thing
that's not there is the Internet. Everything else works perfectly again. If you
know what or how many people Monica in in in one in How many people in your risk
management have workstations versus offices. >> Of the top? My head. So
don't know. But if I had to guess we have roughly 40 some 40 some folks and risk
management probably less than 5 have offices in the rest of them have.
>> So they would be using these workstations anyway. It's not like all of a sudden
we're pushing people to work stations do have other departments that with similar
similar situations where some people have a couple officers and then there's workstations
right? That's correct. Okay. So I went through Woods us COVID give us the original
numbers. And I said what if we put up 10 by 12 offices, you put drywall indoors and you
have obviously move some some vents for air conditioning. Some lights. And we just had
all 10 by 12 offices and got rid of everything and they said we can bring the price
down all this. These numbers here have to do with bringing the price down from from what
the original was down to 2.75. The cause. So that's where I get. We're saving nearly
350 million dollars. 350 million versus the current, the current project.
That's before from administration 3 quarters of a billion dollars. So I mean, I
going to make public know I would never agreed to spend 3 quarters of a billion dollars
on a building. You guys can. I'm not going to and we could save the public 350 Million.
I'm not gonna say it again. So I wanted to to do that note, we item 2 and according to
council, it would be best that we do not take a vote today because we need all the
members here. If it's going to vote. Yes, we would need all the people here in person that
ideal. saying it correctly, Just tell me. Yes, yes, us. We have 5 votes here. Now it
would have to do that. But based on talking to counsel, I would have to reschedule defer
this and rescheduled for next week and have a special meeting next week. you know
you shouldn't do it, Mr. because we have people here, I think instead of deferring it,
we should let the people here speak and then we can take the vote next week by a of That's
fine. I just want to let everybody unless, you know, we have one speaker? There are 2
speakers signed up and I have some questions for additional speaker. Okay. With the
speakers. In Clark. >> Eleanor in Oreana Davis. >> Do want to come on up. was
aviation. >> I am. Well, good morning to you, Mayor. Vice Mayor
Commissioners County administrator. >> And before you start, I
mean, the review in the back going to make sure if she's talking against what we're
doing, cut the mike that Mike cut the Michael Kay. Go ahead. I'm joking.
>> Yeah, I thank you so much for having me here. I am representing the city of Dania
Beach as the mayor. This is very sensitive item for us. I don't have to let you all know
what's going on with property taxes in Tallahassee. we need every single dollar that we
can save in the city of Dania Beach. This proposed Spirit Airlines campus would
represent a significant and long-term revenue, economic revenue loss for the city of
Dania Beach. I sat down with my CFO and city manager yesterday and it would be the
1.2 million dollars in perpetuity. And I can understand if you're going to
have a cost savings. But if we get cost savings of one time as opposed to being able to
read generate revenue perpetuity for the city of Dania Beach. I also wanted to
say that the Spirit Airlines facility, it's not just the standard building office. This
is a specialized space that was specifically designed to serve airline headquarters and
aviation training center. We have specialized infrastructure and flight
simulators that I have personally one. The corporate layout is uniquely suited for
aviation industry. And so we would like to explore those options. I know that our city
manager has been in contact with the the greater Fort lighten rated Fort Lauderdale
Alliance, along with Kim Cohen, other people. And there are interested parties who are
interested in its turn. Key aviation facilities. So >> I'm asking for you all to
look at the large picture of looking at the revenue that we would be able to generate in
perpetuity. And look at that long-term goal of bringing economic development jobs to
the city of being a beat. >> This is the only facility that is like this in all of
Broward County. So we would not be able to just, you know, it's not just regular office
space. We are asking you to. >> Not vote in favor of this and that I respectfully oppose
acquisition of the Spirit Airlines property because it would eliminate and be a
reoccurring local development revenue with many units Halley's are already asking to
having facing unprecedented fiscal uncertainty. So we need your support to support the
city of Dania Beach and bring huge economic development with another company that would
work. >> generate revenue opportunity for our city and
county. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.
>> I had somebody be here to speak, Mister Swindle, can we call him Mr, and vote. is.
That's signed up. >> No, but I believe they have the right to ask them to
speak. Any commissioner. Obviously, you could ask anyone to speak, but mayor,
you control the timing. I don't know. I like box. I like pots. When do I just don't
like what he's going to be coming here to talk about? don't mean the timing as to
how long would that recognize? Okay. But I'll talk to you afterwards to get out of come
I think it's very right. Mister Mayor. So I have a question for Mister chair,
which why come to be sure Mr. Swinney bell at the last meeting. I raise concern based
upon prior conversation that you and I had that. >> The
>> I believe that there were you would indicate there were other. People that we're
looking at this building because I'd said then. I think you said this many times. My
top priorities bring high paid jobs to Broward. And if we could make this a corporate
headquarters, either National International regional for a major company that would bring
lots of high-paid jobs here. That was something that would be a factor. Maybe not the
only factor, but certainly a factor in my consideration. It is my understanding that you
now have an opinion on that. Is that correct? And if so, what is that opinion? Yes,
senator, thank you. >> The mayor, you approach is like a CEO of a corporation is
considering relocation, right? You look at the space. But your drivers are exactly what
makes appealing to business as well to have 180,000 square foot, 10 trip to Turkey
facility. We don't have that inventory available anywhere in Broward County right now.
And that's what's made it so attractive. We've got to. Really strong candidates that
we work for the past. They're actually they're competing with the with the bankruptcy
court. There are already engaged with the bankruptcy court for this building. I've
got a 3rd that's also pursuing it. don't know the company as well. We've got 6 share this
with the county administrator, 6 other companies. We have a tech company that wants to put
their headquarters there. Why write? Because, you know, this was really design is an
aviation facility like we want to be embedded in a mixed use of like new point. Weve got
retail. There's housing. There's there's hotel space. There's temporary housing, all
those things that make it attractive. You guys you're competing with business
because it's such an attractive location. we are team could probably measure
this. But I think I mentioned is the county administrator. If you think about new
employees coming to Broward and then payroll being spent and Broward counties,
additional taxes generated by that. You know, customers of the stores, the restaurants,
the retail. That's that point. And if they're bringing travelers in, we have I told
you the name of the company and Mary, you, have you have a strong suspicion, probably
it's a global brand. You recognize them immediately. So if if they're going to feel
that building with employees that are new to that part of Broward County, I'm not sure
there's some dark, any residents that they work for this company already. But you
get you're looking at the turn of with their spending in payroll was being spent. That
impacts our GDP as a county. It's a very attractive building. But the answer
yours, your question, senator, and we talked about this the other day to these projects.
We have worked previously and did not have an appropriate facility for one is aviation
related. We came really close. But to be honest with you, the finances and what you're
looking at, a new way to go to build a new governmental center. You guys can the best
rates possible Triple-A been rated county. But, you know, other companies don't have
that benefit. And when you look at cost of building the financing, it's it's it's
topical police projects their tracks because they want to corporate housing that one of
the things that you've got that this facility. >> when do based on everything
you said you have a recommendation for us. >> My recommendation would be
and it essentially had public relations firm reached out to me the tax man and how they
got my number. But they were talking about. The image of the county competing with
business for a facility like this. And they recommended to me that they could fix that
for me. And like. We have a I know this county commission, they're going to evaluate all
the factors and they're going to make the best decision but only for our county. But from
pennies in the area. My recommendation is I don't think it's a good look for us
to compete with businesses are going after the same building. I don't know that we could win
as a county they can be a little more nimble, maybe with a bankruptcy court. But this
is the most valuable asset that spearheads. And so it's going to be highly sought
after and they will get the highest dollar they can get for this building and they
hope And do you recommend I believe that in conversations, County administrator that you
had. >> Said something like that, you would recommend that we
not pursue this because you believe that. There will be a private, large private
companies. Maybe you don't know which one that would come in and benefit the Brevard
County Economy. Yeah, I know there's 3 there will be directly competing with you
for the space. but again, I go back to >> the additional economic
impact of those new employees spending money in Dania Pointe supporting those retailers and
restaurants. And I know that the county employees would do the same, but we've already
got those folks spending money in our county. We're looking to bring additional people in
and that's why I think it would be. It would be a bad decision to to take this off
of the inventory for commercial I trust me. I get that. There's no inventory out
there. I understand the frustration with that. I deal with it on a regular basis.
>> Any other things, Mister Mayor and I'm I have 2 questions for you, sir. As you
can in changed since the first time spoke to Senator Gathers cent. On this. Senator Geller
said this at our last meeting. So I'm wondering why you brought them up to say the
same thing live in. And they're usually because instead of my saying what he
said, I wanted him to say what he said. Okay. it's just an opinion like So let me ask you
question. And this is you're making a recommendation to us as elected officials as
economic development organization, right? Do you think which weighs more saving
the public? 350 million dollars or getting high paying jobs in that building? We
would cause you're talking a tax base attribute excuse me. You brought up tax base. So
tell me based on your recommendation, what kind of tax revenue would we get from
that versus the savings of 350 million dollars because I assume you're saying that will
benefit more over through more than 350 Million. Because you done that analysis.
>> I've not done that analysis. That's one of the things I mentioned that we
could do the analysis on what would be the impact of new to Broward employee? You I'm just
a guy that you made. You made a recommendation based on you talked about tax.
>> But tax. And so you're getting in front of us. Make your recommendation without
doing any analysis and how much tax revenue we would generate from putting a
corporate entity in their first is saving the public. 350 Million. Is that correct?
That's correct. Okay. Thank you. Where conductor? Will both serve him on this way.
Okay. So just a couple things. And I've spoken to some of the companies to that are that are
talking and that want to look at this building. And assuming that there would be some
interest in this building. And I. >> If we're interested in it,
other people are interested and it's a valuable piece of property and that's why people
are looking at it. I'm not as sure as the length and depth of the corporal reloads that
will go there. But that's wonderful thing about this process is that if you become
a better on this I'm not saying you definitely get it. But you're in the game to do
it. And if we we helped Dania, if we if we raise the value of this piece of property, that's
a OK, I'm not here to give corporate welfare to a corporation that wants to come
by this property by saying we're not here. Trust me. And I've heard from this day as
before that, we're not gonna get it. We're not going to enough. We're not going to be
there. Our number should be out there to be a number that we feel comfortable with
before before you came today. And I appreciate everything you did. I'm glad you were
there. We were still a 200 million dollars savings. With this coverage is original
numbers, which when they were tasked by staff, they said put that building in the Dania
Pointe building and give us the same exact thing. And it was still a 200 million
dollars savings. I know it can be much more, you know, could be much more. But even
200 million dollars, a lot of money to save. >> Dania Pointe makes a very
in my opinion, impressive argument. I agree with their argument. But when you save,
if you can save taxpayers 250 million on one side. There's a way that we can make
Dania Pointe Hall, you know, with any kind of tax revenue that they're looking at. Plus,
I don't think there's been a study on how valuable that land becomes. If there's now X
and another 1000 employees that are there full time. I think that we should stay in
the game here. I think if there's corporations that want to bid for this property, they
should bid for this property. They may be to us in which case we take our ball and we
go home. We may not be the stalking horse on this, but I'll say again, do not think
there's going to be 5 votes for 3 quarters of a billion dollars that the Gore private
property. I've said that before. And the other thing I would say it's a lot of people
think this is very fast. This is something that's happening fast. Well, that's because 2
months ago, the issue didn't didn't. You know, we've we've dealt with this core property
for what, 10 years dealing with joint government meetings. It was going to be a
joint center. It was going not be a joint government center. You are going to go here. We
were going to look there. It's been a multi-year, you know, 5, 6, 7, 10 year process. This
is something that just came up. I think by anybody's imagination by anybody's
facts, we save 200 million dollars right off the back. I think it's going to be much,
much more than that. And this is in a rehab of a building. This this half of this
building is really have most of the space is ready to go. We have a risk management
department. They had a risk management department. It's basically the same thing. We
have a human relations. They had human relations department and I know people say, well,
there's HIPPA things. There's this that the other thing when you tour the spirit building
on the first floor where they have their HR in the back, they had to hit the area, too,
because they have the same thing that we have. It's all very much the same. I think we
should push us forward if it takes another week to do it, we should be able to do it.
And if somebody out bids us, we should shake their hand. And if we are the stalking
horse bidder and somebody comes to us and says I'm a new airline. I want to set up shop
here. We could say have at it. You with this is mean, we definitely have to buy it by
becoming and the game here. And I think that there's a lot that can happen if the
alliance has a company, that's a great company for Dania Beach and it works for the
county. We talk about. That. We're going. I too. First of all, I just want to mention, I
totally agree with the mayor from. >> Dania Beach and I wanted to
just mention the the taxes that are paid by spirit right now. This is this year's
proposed tax taxes, 700 and 50. Yes, 715 million, 688. And then the total ad valorem
taxes and so forth that they pay or 2.8 million dollars. So we just so we know what. But
the last possibly could be for Virginia Beach. I I said this at at the meeting and I'm just
going to repeat it. I think we need to put the brakes like the idea that we're sitting
here. Some people are sitting here and saying it's well, now we're not going to spend
600 Million. We're going to spend 300 million or 259. We should be putting the brakes
on everything right now. We are looking at a dangerous Advil tax issue on the agenda
that could kill this county. And you talk about affordable housing. This has nothing to
do with affordable housing are hold everything we would be doing would be cut all across
the board. I feel at this point that this is this is a horrible message to send to
people. To go out there and do this. When we own a piece of property already at 65 million
dollars, the Gore billion building. I mean, how much do we want to have here? And
something would have to be go if we got it. And this this piece of paper, I'm sorry,
having in the building, a carpeted drive, kinds of construction business. family.
I have this is estimated cost. Nobody knows. Nobody knows what the cost would be to
renovate this building. Absolutely not. So I just feel like we're looking at
something that's so. Going to be so difficult for so many people in this county.
Everything we care about in services. Can be can be done. Reduced dramatically. So for
me, I am not going to support doing this. And even if we're saving, we're not saving.
We're not saving 250 million dollars. We're spending 250 million dollars and I'm
not willing to do that. And by the way, we compare down the Gore building plans to we can
plant, we can we can make the same kind of facility that we're talking about here. We
don't have to have the big offices. We don't have to have a lot of the things that are
in that building. We do need is a childcare center in that building. But we don't need of
this other stuff that we have there. And we could. We could we could save several
100 million dollars in that building. Well said the since the I agree with you. I agree
with the mayor. Also, thank you. Do not want to. We rushed into a decision. I think we've
been planning. >> A lot on where we want to go and how how we wanted to
look. And some point, if you to, if you have to pump the brakes are pumped the brakes.
But we have enough information. To do that today. I think it's just a knee-jerk
reaction of like to see us move forward. Take the bull today. I want to kick the can
of the week, but I want to speak to this property. want to raise here. I've seen 5
renditions on that property. Investment. Downturn. Torn down. Build something else.
Investment. One Dow bill, something else investment on down to build something else
when they would want that. 95, the Grand Prix was relocated. There before the Grand Prix.
Those addition of what they thought would work at that property. And before that
powers will was there when I was kid. So it was a small. Temple of Disney World. role?
But that was part of So wouldn't go to calls that he built. So, Dana, his struggle.
development based my of debt. So we look at this. 100 million dollar investment.
And I read this and going to bring in. The 800 million dollar. Thank you. Point
development has transformed. Thank you. Beach into a regional Travon, massive tax
revenues, job growth, corporate investment. Why didn't who? Could mix Mixed
use project has fundamentally reshape the local economy. Through 4 main pillars. The
revenue generation. The job creation, the corporate location. The mixed use
expansion. And if we take that opportunity way, we always. We always turn to window. We're
trying to validate company coming here, Maria, they wait the pants, a situation of who
they bring the town to entertain. We go to Bob Sunday. But today. We
dismissed in effect. And I've had numerous conversations Bill because I want to know if
there was any other interest in this property and there's nothing else. The developments
downtown today. I was very much a part of it. We are running out of space. There
are no opportunities for big companies to come here because you don't have a mask. The
Lamb Mayor Mike does well and industrial peace because they have all that land at
company's at the Cubs. Se. All of the tract. Is craze going out there, bringing companies
to town? We don't have that here. We have an opportunity with the of investment may
have a 65 billion dollars across the street. I want keep going in that direction. But I
want to pump the brakes. I want to take the vote up or down. What we do because we
can keep keep changing scenarios. Day day out. I don't do. Overnight projects
is I work in industry and I do a lot of time before I go out and say I can build something
4 x amount of dollars because typically what happens in in the real world. I got eat that
cost. But what as a government agency? The 450 the 200 meter 300 not turn into twice the
amount of money. Once we get any real last. It is not the space that we can utilize day
one like has been said So I'd like to see is pump the brakes. I think this is a
great opportunity for our economy to keep growing in Dania. Dania has done well.
And that was I think it's gonna one of the first projects that may. Less. For
in perpetuity. Because of what they put there. What they put their to sustain that space.
If you go step further. We can't do that. This footprint, we can decide we're going to
stop. And then it could bring major corporation. had a brow bullet and that footprint that
footprint works for We purchased the property with intent to do that. Dania Beach
point. Should be exactly what it was built to be when it opened 2 years ago. It's a
great building. It has a space we're only talking about you last half of the space of
these of this parcel and we'll talk a piece in between that we could have a future of
future building. Our future building is where we've already invested our time and
talents. And we can put brakes on all of these projects if need be. But Daniel Point, my
commissioners today, his vote this up or down. The only thing I think that will be
question of the city attorney the county attorney There are 2 members missing here today.
How does that play out with a vote today? And I'm not trying to kill. We do want to make
sure that what we're doing can be justified. The votes. Yeah, it's these or
>> extraordinary circumstances. The spirit, issue came up on very short
notice. We're dealing with bankruptcy court deadlines were also technically we have
workshop today. But because we're we thought we were researching for meetings. We
have 2 commissioners who are out of the country. You know, this board knows I've been
around for a while. I'm always very conservative in terms of whether remote should count,
it would be my strong preference not to do vote. I'm risk-averse. I was like that
better. So it's better to do it. It in person. But if we had 5 affirmative votes,
including remote boats. I I think God, if the thought that they were in order for these
extraordinary circumstances, I think we'd be able to sustain it. That would be valid and
that if there were problem with it, that we there would be some flexibility, 2 things
that I wouldn't say that. But for the circuit, I don't want to come one of us. I want.
>> Yeah, we interview that we can do this with the makeup that we have today with 2 out
of town not being present to move this forward so that we can put this to bed or I'm not
moving it forward, might recognize. So I want the legal opinion so that seems like
when we started this and the presentation of them, it was because of the absences. We
couldn't do it but we can't do it. Yeah. The mayor knows every member of this board
knows that I'm extremely reluctant to do so. But these are unique circumstances.
They're extraordinary certain we can do. And I believe that we would prevail.
>> In court if it came down to it. So the answer would be yes, but I also want you to
know that the law is a little murky on this. Their old opinions. They don't really
cover Statute doesn't cover it. So my my statement to my legal opinion and so
reinforced by my team because we fought internally is yes, we could do it and our bill
would be sustained in court if came down to it. Yes. Thank you for that. With are just
too this up and down. >> Obviously >> this it's enticing to see
this. And it's, you know, this. You see a property like that. And and I can understand
why it's, you know, attractive to those the support. It. But I do have a problem of the
optics at this time, particularly with the property tax looming. I mean, we may
have stands, For a while. That's that's just the reality of it because we don't know
what kind of money we're going to be having coming in on tax revenues. It may be we may not
have a choice. And I don't want us to get so far out ahead that we can be coming
back. If we may have seen here for years and that, okay, the last thing we you want to do
is I think showing the public that we're about spent a whole lot of money when, you know,
that just gives them reason to vote against. thing is and I've said this numerous times.
The you know, when I think of county building, I have my own. You know, I think of he
would like him, you know, children. You have the main building in the square or
borders towns. I've lived in where it's the people's building. And if feels like
and looks like that's I still would rather see that the fact that we're we're about to
build where we're going is a cartographic center of the county seat corner and used
great. That's the view know north South East West. the corner. Easy access. And I
think access is a very important thing here. You know, people have to be able
sometimes they have to come here and you've got to make it. So it's easy for the other
part in to Bob. I think I would like if there's a chance of doing the analysis of
showing the multiplier effect, what happens when you have 1000 people spending money
into place? What does that turn into the because the tax revenues, one part of it. The
multiplier effect is by far. The bigger. As a as Mike and in Kentucky. You know. Danny
Point is it's doing well, but it's not. It's still, you know, you don't want to take
out from under You know what support help supporting it right across the street in the
coming year as you're about to have a lot of development as well. So you're going to you
know, you're having couple areas are very dependent on that kind of multiplier effect
to keep it going. So we know for those kind of things on not inclined to be supporting
this right now. I do. I don't think it makes and I don't think the timing is right. And
I think for a city like Dania and Hollywood, both the right on the line right there. This,
you know, begins to write their it makes a difference. It helps support it. Those
kind of jobs are in the fact that we might have another very big industry come in. You
know, we're bored or or or business I think don't you want take that away? I think
we're on the right track where we're going. I think it was the right place. I It gives us
the opportunity to build the way we what we can scale it down. We can do whatever we
have to do and we don't have to build it tomorrow. We have our choice. We can. We can. We
can do what we do when it when we when it makes sense. But we need to send a message to the
people in this county that we're not going to be that we're not spending w****
nilly. And then we understand what's in front of them. And we're going we're going to do
the right thing. So that's the and that's one thing. I think you do want to everyone for
put it doing all. This is a lot of work. Thanks for letting us see it. I like what
I saw in terms that I didn't think was a government building. But I was glad to be
able to see it. So thank you for that. That's that's my thoughts right now.
Commissioner, thank you, Mayor >> Mr. Swinney Bell and to Commissioner Dean. Would you
please share those companies that you've been dealing with and talking to? Because I
issue city spoke to a couple of them. I just want to see the magnitude of the companies
that that's what can ask in public. And so you when you can, and for someone not just
luxury months with these companies, they can talk one on one.
>> Excuse me, one on one with commissioners. If they choose to. Like I said, you know,
hopefully. That I've been doing this. You've got some trust in me. I wouldn't tell
you that they work. Well known. Remarkable companies that are looking at this. I
want to see cup. A competition. this pains me because to lie commissioners
that have been great business advocates and you're approaching this like a
business with and that's what we're competing with business. This is a unique site Broward
County. I can't disclose the company's name specifically, but I can tell you that they
would be substantial and trust me. We have worked with them trying to save them in Broward
County previously commissioner >> I have been called by multiple companies and
multiple different hedge funds. I don't think they were official like with this is we
want to do this and we might do this. But I think it's you might want I haven't had as
much experience as Drew has had with bankruptcy. I mean, maybe they don't want Broward
County to be in this bankruptcy game. But I have a feeling that it's, you know,
for what everyone is saying. They want Broward County to be there for a lot of different
reasons. In this bankruptcy court. But like I said, it's it's a free market. And if
somebody out bids us, they out that President. >> I just want I get to the
company's. I want to see what the competition was. And I don't want to get into
bankruptcy world. explain that several times to the to the commission, but time
definitely and 40 is not on our side. So we do need to make a decision very quickly.
We're 8 days away from find the bankruptcy court that we are in tension to be a better.
Or that we submit our stalking horse offer. So time is again, not our size. It is becoming
time is of the essence for that? I said publicly that I'm bullish on this. I I have been
from the beginning, especially when I visit it. But now I have grave concerns basically
from the memorandum that we received last evening from the attorney's office. That
concerns me puts the county position that I don't know that we want to be. And I just
want to bring that to light. Yes, you could. You come forward because I know that
you are been dealing with like talk to because council day for yesterday outside counsel
got their feelings on a couple of things. But what concerns me of this June 15th memo are
several things and what the public understand that. Kim Co national international firm
that owns and operates shopping centers, malls. Developments such as the new
point there, the developer, the master developers of that. And when you do a master
development plan, mixed use. You. Create a document, you create rules, regulations, you
create. Development agreement you to do to create all these rules and so forth and gives
them much more power and rightly so. Because what they want to do is they want to
kind of control what's in that and their development, their spending, billions of dollars.
Developing this site. They want to make sure they protect their tickets that have been
there today. The ownerships that are in there today. So I get that. But to the extent
that >> providing. Rights to them kind of over even.
>> A city like new beach. And I say that because if you look in the restrictions, you look
in the guidelines. In order to even get a variance on something you might want to do
with the site. You have to go through them before you say the city davies's. Yeah. We'll
give you that variants. Kym Koch and say my sorry, you're not gonna get that variance
because you're not going to be able to do that because of our development rights in orders.
Which concerns me. And so I was talking to the and you look in the memo, you talk
about, I just read it here provides the campus honor, which would be Cannot seek a
variance amendment or modification to the plan. The PD the mixed use development.
Without the prior written consent, which means tempo. Any second the first point was
actually to that. There's a camp here which means common area maintenance fees, right?
So when you're in a masterful a plan, you have like the kind H.O.A. per se, but you have to
pay your portion of the grass getting caught in and maintenance of the facilities,
the roads because he's a private roads in here. So you have all these things that you
have to do. And that's a cost to that. And I understand yes to that. We have not even been
provider, cannot get from Cam Co what the camp costs are. >> So we haven't been able to
get the actual cost. current cost paid by spirit for their allocation. We've been trying
to work with those spirits Council and the Kim code to get that information. But we
did. We have not been able to get >> And I understand that. But
we talked about today that the communication with Kim Cohen, he's against, can't go by
communication a camp go. Is that? They only put. answers and that the only responded
was via e-mails. Correct? We can't have that. We have a to have a Kirk conversation with
them because here here getting that is. Is that the current use of the facility, the
property today, his office and correct if I'm wrong is asked. And so we want to change the
used to a government use. It's a permitted use. In the city of Dania Beach allows it. They
say yes, you could permitted use for area. This particular property you can use
government. However. However. Kim Kohat my understanding has the right. To dictate the use.
That's it's not what exists today. So here's the problem there. And here's the problem
Commission is that? >> They will not give us a preapproval written letter.
>> Stating that we can use this property for what we want to use. Is that correct?
>> They haven't stated that. So there, you know, they've stated that they're trying to
treat us at what's to create arm's length with respect to all the interested parties in
the transaction. And so they'll provide information to us but are not necessarily
negotiating with or at least what they've told us any of the bidders as to our specific
uses. They're just telling us you know, answers factual question.
>> So have you asked them for a preapproval? Letter from them that they will pre
approve us as a use of the facility. We have not specifically ask for proof. So
I think that's very important because if we do not have in writing. From Kim Co that we
can use this facility for what we want to use. We want to have commission chambers, we
whatever those that laundry list issues that we need to use this property for. If we
don't receive written approval from them. Then this you because we can't buy a
property. A bit on the property, much less buy a property. And all of a sudden
we're told we can use it for what our use. So again, get in the bankruptcy arena. We are
today as is where is no continue. See, says we can't say our purchases. Ciliving is
subject to getting approvals of these uses. So it's very important to me. I can't vote
on something that I can say to the public. Yeah, we can buy so we can use what we want to
use it for. >> And I'm understanding that thing they even that to us
without asking us what we have an asset. But I'm asking mayor, we've got to find that
out. First before we can even move forward because without that. The title, when will see
transaction as commissioner UT nose and real estate transactions, you have a title
commitment to title policy. Right? And in the due diligence, period, they
provided a title commitment and they have schedule bees, which is basically a list of
restrictions or things that have to be satisfied prior to closing that transaction order
for you to pass free clear title right? always and conferences. Isn't. Is it
something here? Yes, sir. She should me some meat. My understanding it had looked at
the title yet on title. say all agree on. Policy you know, first, American or felt like
that. But my understand is how many schedule bees were 70. >> There were good after good
morning. There were 7, 0, so many exceptions that I the office the county attorney
along with County staff is review. >> And then you have the
Declaration of Covenants, correct? That is correct. And how large is that document?
Has close to 100 pages. One of plus amendments. So that's another mayor and
commissioners with what we have to make sure is that the title itself that we can even
adhere to those exceptions in the title. >> It also also the decoration
of confidence that we can even adhere to as well. So again, Dylan, the bankruptcy court,
we've got 8 days away from our attention to be a better or to submit a stalking horse offer.
Without this extensive due diligence. This still needs to be done. But more importantly.
Get it in writing from Pimco was controlling this whole deal. understand they might
even want to be a better. So you're competing with again. The original developer
competing with the market, the private sector and now a loss. We're pretty much are. We
really are. And I again, I've been bullish on this the whole time when Commissioner Union
border forward, I said no way when saw the facility saw the opportunities that we could be
there. I thought it would really work for us to save the hundreds of millions of
dollars that I'm hearing. But the day, we don't have it in writing, but we can exactly do
it. I mean, exactly. We can put commission chambers and there we can park them there.
We can use your roads there. We can use X x* if we don't have that in writing. This is
null and void as far as I'm concerned and then deal with the title issue separately. So
that's what really, really concerns me at this tea at this late hour. Unfortunately,
see this, I think at 8 o'clock last night. And again, I commend you for due diligence
and it needs to continue because the obviously is very extensive. I haven't been in
the data room, but I leave that to the experts when it comes to that. But so that's
my feeling. Is point? just commissioner decided on that, right? So we are continuing to
do diligence. We've, you know, as you state, we may not >> be in a position to be the
stalking horse to next week. But if you know, the board wanted to to be something on,
the extended >> But by nursing talking to legal counsel, council, you
have. Preferential treatment, but you have the better in sight. If you become stalking
horse or least play the game as a stalking horse, you have the ability to gain more
information, more opportunities, then you would just coming in as outside
bitter to the day for the July 23rd options going to take place, correct?
>> That's correct. But just based on the information that year, you know that you just
raised the facts that you just raise, which is that by next week, we probably do not have
the information 2 because stalking horse means that on the 24th we have assigned per
purchase agreement. Right? So we are committed to purchasing the asset at that point.
>> there's a draw, no continue sees Koukash as is where is and so. Probably will not have
the information. We noticed that the use of the property by Good. Thank you.
>> Mr. Met one second. I want them to go on numbers you over done. thank you. Mr. Mayor the
first like to begin by thanking both you Commissioner Udin for bringing this matter
up and pushing this. I think that efforts to save hundreds of millions of dollars are
always fruitful. I think it shows the public. That we're really are trying to be as as
frugal as we can. And I sincerely mean it when I say that. I appreciate both you
and commissioner unity in for leading efforts to try and save us. Hundreds of millions
of dollars. And I will say that as of yesterday, I was still undecided as to where I
was as of today. I am not because 3 issues have come up that have decided in
opposition to this. The first one is. At the last meeting I raised questions about where
the alliance was based on a prior conversation. But at the time, I did not know exactly
what that position of Mister Swindle was. Just a great questions this morning. I find
found out what Mister Swindle its position is and how serious these discussions had
And that is one of the 3 factors with which led me to the second one is I drove it
today this morning. I just want to read the directions to directions to get to this
building are go to Broward Boulevard. Take a right on what's The I was coming due
West, a wave on offer of Stirling Road. So I just came east from West. Stirling Road
to 18th Avenue to Point Boulevard to North campus, way to Rady and Drive. And by the
way, I lost a GPS but cause North campus way doesn't have a street sign on. So it had to
go around that. I don't think is the appropriate location for for a government center to
have it in the middle of a master development where candidly, as I said a GPS, I
got lost. But the major factor, the when I read it and said no. It's the
same issue. That my colleague Commissioner Fisher just brought up. I think all of,
you land use attorney. When I read the memo from Anika this morning. I looked at that and
said it is impossible for us to close on this property with all of these Kathy Ot's it
could get it for. 300 million dollars or 400 million dollars last. If we can't use the
building the way we want to use it, it's a white elephant. And having read the memo as an
attorney has a zoning and land use attorney, I looked at that and said you can close on
this. You know, we just we can't we don't know if we'll be able to use the building
the way we need to use the building. So I honestly yesterday with still
undecided, I told you at the last meeting I thought they were merits on both sides. And
but today based on that those 3 issues, I did reach my decision and it's I I would
not be able to support it. Having said that, I want to close by just again, thanking
Commissioner you Dean, a new Mr mayor for doing this. If you want talk to you, you're
mayor, you want to put it do whatever you want. Bot whenever we do vote on this,
I'm going to be opposed to this. Also aided represent all of Dania Beach. And I was in
the Senate and I still always have warm and the city of represented. And I'm trying to
be nice to Dania Beach because I used to represent that. So whatever you want to do, Mr.
Mayor, terms of when we vote, but I will be voting no. >> And take 60 seconds and
handed back to Commissioner Eugene because it's his item by 60 seconds are basically
this. This item is dead in the water. If we don't get as commissioner Fisher said, if
we don't get that assurance is that we can use the building and property as we would want
use it. And that's one of the reasons why I was going to ask Commissioner you Dean 2 differ
this because it even if we set a meeting for next week, if we can't get it, there's not
going to be meeting because this thing is dead in the water. No matter what. You are
not going to bid on something that we can't use. But I'm gonna spend the next 30
seconds I understand that. But there's but having said I understand that I just I can't
I just can let me just finish the 30 seconds. I just want to make sure it's clear with
Senator Reid said about buying the property per 65 Million. And she mentioned the number
600 Million. The total amount of that building. we got from since COVID those numbers,
certainly they could be change is close to 3 quarters of a billion. And so I just want
make sure we are talking commissioner for just talked about the optics again. I
think the opposite it's a good point. But then the optics of our other alternative
spending, 3 quarters of a billion is horrible optics as well. Then you should agree
with that. If we're going to pump the brakes. Spice mayor said it is that we pump the
brakes on everything we should be pumping. The brakes and everything. Last time we had a
meeting, let's keep this going on across the street. If we're going to pump the brakes
because it's a potential financial disaster coming, we should be pumping the brakes
on everything I want to let you know, though, that I to make up these numbers since
COVID that provided the original numbers we met yesterday. Their but they're
like 2030%, based on what they have of. You know, they're testament 100% accurate. But I
didn't just make up these numbers. We spend an hour and have talking about where would
come in if we did certain things differently. So I just want to make sure, you know,
you know that. and even with the current situation, if if we were able to get what we
need, we'd still be saving 200 million with that said, I since I don't know if there's
a need to continue. Do continue because he what he wants to defer. He wants to
withdraw the item so I could recognize the people on the phone. you know, Commissioner
Davis and Commissioner Rogers, but I think the item, which is brought by commissioner you
Dean, he wants to pull it. you talk to OK committee, you know, Commissioner Rogers and
Commissioner knowing there and still want to speak on this. >> At it's not necessary. He's
going to try the item just so, you know, basic. I do have concerns as well. mean,
forward on that building. It also won't be available next week, either.
>> You won't be available for a phone or in person or both. >> In-person rba No OK, we
could have our meeting in Orlando even to the We'll have a meeting and is safe for you.
That's OK, no problem of the commission. work, not Commissioner
>> Just to clear up one or 2 things, I did speak to David Coddington. The dad brought
this up like a month ago and he said, you know, there would be companies that are going to
look at this. And I think David would tell you my exact answer to him. Most keep going
on that route because if there's companies that are looking at it, there should be
you're not insulting me by saying there's companies that are going to look at this the
wonderful thing about the private sector's, they can be a little bit more nimble.
We're never going to get the answers to your questions by next week. Anyway. And I guess
all of this will be proved out by the marketplace in the next few weeks. I'm going withdraw
my motion. I'm not asking for that to be put up to vote next week August. When we come back
from vacation or when we come back from break, we can see what the situation is by then.
I'm sure we'll have a big company that's interested in. will have other companies that
will a bit on this. And I guess we're going to get to say how this plays out. But
we're not going to be able to get to a place no matter how long we stay here today or
even if we came next week. To where we need to be. So I withdraw the motion.
>> Are you saying you don't want us to set up another meeting? Is that your
position? >> I'm not. We can set up another meeting, but it
doesn't have to be a special meeting next week because we're going to be the same
place. They're not going to get these Anybody in that we're not at 5 in the other.
In the situation we do get insurance is doing its of the media.
>> Not before Brett. We're not. We don't do this week. I'll do it and will do it in
August. If somebody comes in out bids us. >> Then we shake their hand.
We bring there's no there's no bidding. We something about it. If somebody comes in and
takes a property, I'm hearing from everybody that there's so many different interested
bettors in this. I guess we're going to be proved out. >> During July about how
correct that is. I have a feeling that a lot of people were waiting to see what
Broward County was going to do because we are the best and natural user for that space.
The companies that are going to look at that >> are not going to have the
So just to let you know, I'm gonna talk to council. If there's a way we can get
assurances great if not dead. morning we have for a vote. It will be mayor.
>> I don't think I don't think it's dead. It could come back in August. You can like it. I
like it anybody else. Can bring it Just I'm not gonna make everybody come for a
special meeting next I know we're not gonna have the answers. If we have these
answers and you think that there's an ability to do that, somebody else can ask for
special that. Mr. if you do ask for special meeting as Commissioner Davis said, I'm
leaving Tuesday She's leaving. So could you do it on Tuesday? You do Monday, Monday or
Tuesday, just not after Tuesday. >> keep in mind, mayor, that
Wednesday is the deadline to provide the intention to bid and a stalking horse offer. So
we need to have time from legal to be Oprah for and provide a stalking So we're is
of the other on the legal side. We'll move forward. right. I unless we're going to
call them will get together. >> With administration, write with to me. We're going to
call them my I'm told we've asked things we've asked for certain information. We may
have not asked that the right way. We're going to ask for definitive information if we
have it, then we can. We will move forward with the due diligence will let the mayor
know we can call a special meeting if we're not going to get the assurances but say by
tomorrow or, you know, sufficient information then will advise the mayor of will
be no special meeting called in commissioner Eugene said. And as you're saying,
Commissioner Fisher will miss the opportunity through the bankruptcy court debate on
this. But we'll see what happens. And you never say never, you know afterwards. So
>> that's fine by Listen, I'm told Kim Cole has a prize on their hands. So they may not
want to deal with us. They may want to deal with because the values can be there. I would
rather senator of anybody can touch. Richard, you want us to I just want to make one. I
want to correct the record for debate and the debate for units.
>> Because I I was I was looking at this and I didn't speak accurately. So I was
reading from the proposed property taxes, 4 and for for a spirit for this year. And so
I just want to clarify the person, the portion that was the county Commission tax was
755 1 million, 668,000 1000 yet sorry million. sorry. Excuse me. 765,668. The Dania
Beach portion was 799,000. That was the tax and the total tax of all valorem taxes in
the county that spirit paid was 2 million, $80800,000. So I just want it clear what the
tax base is and probably what any company that Mr window was talking about could be
providing the same tax base for the county. So that's that part. And the second part is I
just want to make it really clear. Have said over and over, I want to put the brakes
on everything there. Mayor, I'd like you to hear this, please. court. I I have said I
don't want to spend 7 per of But I'm talking to you, please. Okay. I I I don't want
to spend 700 million dollars 1000 million dollars on on the current land. Property that we
have with Gore. I don't want to go out right now and do anything. I've said it again
and again. So I just want to make it clear. I'm not voting ever to spend that kind of
money building either. But I'm not voting to spend I'm not going to spend anything while
we're dealing with the Evelyn tax issue. Okay. That's it. Okay. Great.
>> Commissioner Rogers, I just didn't hear from you. Did you want to add anything?
>> Commissioner the mayor? Yes. OK, I And the same position. The more I to this
debate and I see that on resident of the county. I am with Senator. And then
Relieving maybe we need it. The decision that impact budget without knowing really
what our coaches going So that where am right now? Am glad that we're going Later date,
based on what the attorneys David. Whether or not there's an opportunity for us, the
county to her. need As I stand right now, I am. Reporting what manager Ridge they did. I
don't believe we need to for the incumbent, you know, go out and commit for And fact,
the 100 until we know where revenue cent. But the voters in all colors.
>> Thank you. I believe the covers are meeting for this. So so so so mayor, it sounds
like and just to summarize, it sounds like we have at least 5 people who or at least alright
mate, but at least 5, you agree, Sevens at least other. That is that a book? You my my
point is just to should we not what we We both do. It only a vote not to do it. The we no
power means So we'll we'll ask him the question. I don't get the answer. We're not gonna
spend more money and do Yeah. It's that okay. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to make sure
because I >> Can you guys please use your microphones? I'm sorry.
>> I'm if it's withdrawn, I don't think there's anything withdrew it. There's nothing
to vote on. He would resign. Mayor, I was just saying if it were possible that are coming
back, we want to do the due diligence. But it sounds like that's not going to happen. So
stop religion says see if they'll be willing to give a letter. One question one want
know when you said seven-on-seven your thing, your own numbers. If we got
that churns, I think Commissioner Fisher said he would be bullish on correct I
can get if I want to get all the shirts exactly what we can do this property and I would
definitely look at it again for sure. And also make sure that the title issues are good
with the decoration of cupcakes. That too was an issue with the but those 2
things. And then you like to make decision that if we give, you know, Senator Geller, new
GPS system, he might be able to get, you know, you might be able to find it and therefore
he might change his vote. Who to book? What are over we're done. There's a more to So we
don't I just want to clarify, though, I agree with what Commissioner Fisher said. It's
not just one letter we're talking about. It's just it's the whole panoply of there's
no point in moving forward. If you don't have a city, much talent, Broward counties not
going to be there to prop up their bid. Right now, we'll have another shot to get this.
>> It's fine. We'll have a You know, we will up watch. Let's see how the bankruptcy auction
goes. If we're not there. >> Okay. Any Joining the meeting doing I would.
>> journey to go to get a journey that morning go to for that we're doing anything out
of mine to go. Why do we need to go to 4.30? Why can't we just say here? Cause we have
it all set up there. And if we just want what set up there, all the everything's in the
room are were But to clarify, just drew, do you know what you guys are dying? You know,
so so right now. >> You don't have authority to submit a stalking horse bid to
submit a letter of interest or anything else starting change is we're going to make a
couple of calls. We'll let the mayor know. We'll take it from there. That's maybe they'll
call us.