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[10:19] ? >> and the meeting, everyone take their seats, one big
[10:33] person use. Let's get going. Good morning, Stephen. Stephen. Is in trouble. Good
[10:54] morning, everybody. Welcome to our budget meeting. Morning morning. know, I know that we
[11:04] really had the last commission meeting. We Drew. But since his last meeting meeting, I
[11:09] think Michael Eugene had an idea. >> I don't think he did as
[11:14] good of a job last meeting. So let's let him do the Pledge of Allegiance again. Make he
[11:17] really does arrive. We normally do. It's right behind you, drew. It. I wasn't here
[11:20] side to get a chance to hear. should be going. One says, yeah, Which stands. nation in
[11:35] the visible liberty and justice for all. We're well placed visit. When you're on
[11:45] your vacation, you see flags. You just do that naturally it Before we start our meeting.
[11:58] When Michael and so me, one 0nd before we started meeting I had a vendor that came to me
[12:06] that was upset with the way the vendors being treated and wants any names. And Monica is
[12:12] looking into it. And I appreciate your time with that. something I wanted bring
[12:17] up in our next commission meeting. You know, if some, if any part any one of the public
[12:22] are any vendor. We have hundreds of vendors feel they're being treated unfairly
[12:27] by a staff person or they're not. No one's getting back to them. I suggest and years and
[12:30] years ago in birth was here of an ombudsman, somebody where people can go to. So this
[12:37] vendor had nobody to go to for years and years. felt like he couldn't come up even realize
[12:40] you can come to one of us and I just want think about and something I want to talk about
[12:45] our next meeting of having ombudsman where whether it be a resident in Broward or a
[12:53] vendor, if they feel like nobody's getting back or the red tape is is hindering them
[12:57] with something. They have somebody to go to and just a thought, maybe a dumb thought.
[13:04] But it's just thought bring up with that let you take over budget. Thank you. Good
[13:09] morning, everyone. So >> today we have a busy agenda. Thank you. And we're
[13:15] going to try to get through this painless efficiently. First up, we've got our Port
[13:22] Everglades Budget Workshop. And then we've got 4 other overviews and presentations
[13:29] for you. So we was kick off with the Mr. Morris, thank you. All right. I heard a
[13:34] quick and efficient so well that will try to do that. these the best port director,
[13:40] its way should be described in the country for sure. And maybe even the world. You
[13:44] humble Mayhew, humble Good Commissioners. >> I just want to quickly
[13:52] before we get going to members of my team that are here at the table. Deputy.
[13:55] >> Director of the port Glenn Wiltshire. I think everybody knows and it is in the world.
[14:01] The best deputy court director and Leo who's our director of finance. at the port. We do
[14:09] have a couple team members in the audience, but we won't go through everybody because
[14:12] quick and efficient. So I am apparently driving. The slides. OK? So. No surprise
[14:24] here are big 3 continues to perform very, very well. And I think we've done a great job
[14:32] marketing and advertising supporting these 3 business lines that are the majority of
[14:35] what the port does with our tenants with our stakeholders and for our regional community
[14:42] and businesses. So just a reminder in our fiscal year 2025, we for the first time in
[14:49] the port history broke volume or throughput records for each of the big 3 in the same year.
[14:56] Crews with 4.7, 7 million guests. And cargo with 1.1, 6, 7 million to use and energy
[15:04] with 131.8 barrels. These are impressive numbers. But to give a context, where do we
[15:12] rank then in the state for each of these big 3, which by the way, no other port in the
[15:17] state of Florida and very few in the U.S. if any. Can can show device diverse that are
[15:23] big 3 does so for in the states where number 3, but as everybody knows, we're also
[15:31] number 3 home port for Cruise port in the world. For cargo. This performance for fiscal
[15:39] year. 25 put us at number 2 in the state of Florida just behind a port a little bit
[15:43] further to the north. But but we hope closing the gap on that. And then on energy
[15:53] number one in the state of Florida for energy products that move through the port. Of
[15:56] course, we support. 12 counties, 5 international airports millions of residents
[16:02] and businesses. And has a recap of our economic impact. study from that fiscal year
[16:16] increased our profile quite a bit. You can see the jobs numbers there. You know, most
[16:22] important, I think the 13,139 to e**** local jobs, nearly 300,000 jobs throughout the
[16:26] state of Florida and the with our economic impact of 48.3 billion. That was a
[16:34] significant increase. Mainly because we fully incorporated the energy portfolio we were.
[16:42] We were not aligned with industry reporting standards. So with world's leading
[16:46] consultant in this field, we we reviewed all that and opted to to fully included without
[16:56] If we had stayed with our traditional reporting measures, we would have been
[16:59] around 34 Billion. for our fiscal year. 25 numbers again, record-breaking performance.
[17:09] 48.3 billion. So thank you for your support in Allowing us to execute that. As you look at
[17:16] current trends crews. I mentioned our record breaking year, 4.7, 7 million for
[17:25] fiscal year. 25 we've already broken that record with our numbers through July. We don't
[17:30] have August. We don't have September yet. We've already broken and created a new
[17:33] record. We have some milestones coming up as we do every year. It seems with new
[17:41] cruise ships or a milestones around cruise ships November early November will be the
[17:46] largest cruise ship in the World. Royal Caribbean's Legend of the calling calling
[17:52] Port Everglades home for the season. We also have that that breath of offerings right from
[17:59] family-friendly to luxury cruising in Crystal Symphony with there. Newly renovated to
[18:06] vessel will be coming also in November of this year. As it relates to cruise in our
[18:12] discussions with management over at the Omni Hotel continue to be excited about
[18:16] what that proximity allows them to to leverage with the cruise guests with the cruise
[18:22] lines. And they've reported from from their perspective, high numbers of guests that
[18:27] are staying at their hotel in conjunction with crews, whether that's on the front
[18:31] end or on the back end. And then as a reminder, the master vision plan that you all voted
[18:37] for an approved back in November of last year of the 3.8 billion projects over the
[18:43] next 20 years. 1.7 billion of that is directly associated with with crews projects. And
[18:56] then cargo. As mentioned, we had a rest or record-setting year for fiscal year. 25. And
[19:00] as you'll see here coming up, we're actually, you know, on on pace for. For a great year
[19:07] again here in fiscal year, 26, probably won't establish a new record, but it should be the
[19:13] second-highest. Volume on record for the port. a couple things are continuing
[19:19] contribute to that. Our position, our strength and Latin America, we do have a
[19:25] shipping line that has the only direct service to Venezuela. That's the 3rd
[19:30] bullet that's referenced here. And that has come in handy, of course, is that country is
[19:34] needed to some some supply and some support. We've got some some shipping line partners
[19:40] and local businesses that have been able to take advantage of that. And most recently we
[19:45] have now direct connectivity to Asia and that's through an MSC Mediterranean shipping
[19:52] company service that called here for the first time in July. And then just a few
[19:58] weeks later, the largest container ship ever to call Port Everglades over 13,000 to
[20:04] use did as part of that. That service. And, you know, as we highlighted in our press
[20:10] release. Great milestone, largest ship big. Thank you to our partners with the pilots
[20:19] that hugs, cetera. Right? It is a machine that that makes our port work. But it had to
[20:24] come in severely underutilized and and are loaded, which just again highlights the need for
[20:28] the deepening and widening which we continue to put effort into. Continuing on
[20:38] cargo. our standing in the container Port productivity Index. This is a measure of
[20:42] more than 400 global ports. We remain in the top. 25% worldwide. So this is a
[20:51] another indicator that the infrastructure investments that we've made Southport
[20:55] turning notch in particular for this metric has allowed our clients to to perform well
[21:00] using our asset using our infrastructure. So we're very proud of that. And then on the
[21:04] foreign trade zone side. >> we remain very high profile in.
[21:12] >> Our on our rankings with more than 8.6 billion dollars. And the really interesting
[21:21] fact here is that this is about 50, 50. This is 4.3 billion on imports and 4.3
[21:25] billion in exports. So a very unique situation where a lot of ports, you know, are
[21:33] one-sided, frightened, heavily weighted towards one flow. But this also shows in our overall
[21:38] cargo activity where we remain a trade surplus port. So by value by volume, we continue
[21:44] to export more than we import. So that says a lot about the local businesses. As we move
[21:50] on to energy. We continue to see strong demand for diesel and jet fuel. But a modest
[21:58] decrease in gasoline consumption. You know, this is on the heels of our
[22:03] record-breaking Fy 25. Now we're probably in line for the second highest volume of
[22:11] barrels petroleum products coming through the port for this fiscal year. We do see a
[22:22] consistent pattern with the volume that is sourced domestically in recent months
[22:27] with some conflicts happening abroad. We have seen that to tick up as high in a single
[22:31] month. 99% of product being sourced domestically versus the typical 90 to 92%. But
[22:40] again, no, no volume or or supply in terms of availability. But just where
[22:47] it's coming from and what Nestle's it's coming in We do is to continue to see this
[22:52] transition to future fuels in particular with the cruise industry LNG bunkering has
[22:58] really stepped up to its activity in the port. And we have many partners that are
[23:04] able to provide that service and that fuel 2 to the cruise lines that wanted to need it.
[23:09] And we also as a reminder, do have a cargo ship that has some alternative fuels. Now
[23:15] this we didn't make big announcement at the time with respect to request from the
[23:19] department cruise line. But the first ever mention are bunkering of a cruise ship in
[23:25] the United States happened Port Everglades earlier this year. This was a tremendous
[23:32] team effort and shows the strength of our port community from the business from an
[23:37] expertise from a purely from engineering ingenuity, perspective that they were
[23:42] able to come to the table and make something happen. With our major capital project
[23:49] slip. One widening still remains a priority for the energy business as well as
[23:54] short power for for our cruise terminals. So slip one a based on private sector request has
[24:02] slipped in the timeline a little bit. But right now the target is that will begin that
[24:07] in early 2028. And as a reminder, just a few months ago, com contract was approved
[24:15] by by the commission and they are studying our first phase of the shore power system. All
[24:27] right. So year-to-date performance I'm very happy that to we've got to an
[24:35] overall 12%, number above our forecasted budget excuse against last year's budget.
[24:42] This this growth shows the strength of our of our port tenants and the regional
[24:47] businesses that to require their services as well, of course, is our tourism and the
[24:53] cruise industry. So Cruz at the biggest jump there with 20% change for for
[24:59] year-over-year. And this reflects also in our crews, guest activity with energy
[25:05] cargo. As I mentioned, we're probably coming in for the second best year on record.
[25:10] But with crews, we already have established a new record for gas throughput. You can
[25:15] see the rest here. Parking continues to be a strong performing item for us break.
[25:21] Bulk, which we know can can fluctuate based local and as well as some of the bulk
[25:28] commodities and Leigh. And while that's got a high percentage it's relatively
[25:33] small dollar amount. And then on the other, this is primarily due to a one time
[25:39] law enforcement trust fund settlement of 2.7 million dollars, which has some
[25:43] restrictions on how it can be spent. But we think are our partners for for bringing that
[25:49] into the port. And now we get into. Our recommended budget. So you can see here are big 3
[26:07] continue to be just that. Although cruises as it was last year starting to separate
[26:13] itself and really the be a clear leader with first time ever forecasted to achieve
[26:18] more than 100 million dollars in revenue. Accounting for yes, roughly 39% of the
[26:26] overall portfolio. So a big 3 still accounts for about 80%. But that's down from recent
[26:30] years. Where total between 83 85%. And this is just the strength of our portfolio
[26:37] items that are that improving. Primarily the real estate and our other bucket. But
[26:43] particular for this year, its parking and we'll get into that in a moment. So to
[26:55] compare the Fy 26 adopted budget versus our proposed fy 27 budget. You can see
[27:01] positive increase across the board. Cruz is going to be driven by both rate increases
[27:08] as well as passenger activity. The cargo side is primarily driven by. Our forecast for
[27:16] for revenue increases. Our rate increases. And similar for energy again. Coming off
[27:25] the heels of the highest performing a year for each of these big 3 this year looking
[27:32] that will have, you know, number one or number 2 positions for for each of
[27:35] those big 3. Again, you know, I think steady performance. There is quite healthy given
[27:41] all the outside noise and uncertainty that the world brings us every day from a
[27:47] real say perspective. We have made a strong initiative to right-size our market rates.
[27:54] So we've been very active in the past 14 months or so. Bringing our tenants up to 2
[28:01] appropriate to levels and that's reflected here as we continue to see that that
[28:07] percentage of the portfolio increase parking seen asterisk here. This our forecast of
[28:17] 19.1 million, assuming a a $5 increase to our park, our daily parking rate. Currently
[28:22] a $20 we're proposing to move that to 25. And we can get into more of that during the
[28:30] question and answer. If there is any specifics, we have some data that shows that we will
[28:34] still not be the highest, a charging port that, you know, this primarily driven by crews
[28:40] and we will still not be the highest, but bill will be we think right-sizing supply
[28:48] demand. We continue with our capital projects to focus on improving that situation,
[28:53] creating more supply. But as it stands right now, we believe this is an appropriate
[28:58] move within the market. And for our Leigh. we you can see 1 million dollar percentage
[29:06] big dollar amount. Still still impactful. But the main reason here we just see a continuing
[29:15] trend up on this. We've over performed on the budget the last couple of years in this
[29:21] one. So this this is our forecast to that that we will see in our proposal. Soleil in
[29:30] vessels that that come in without any direct cargo passenger or product movement
[29:36] just requiring a safe space to to tie up a parking space if you will, to do crew changes
[29:43] or resupply, perhaps refuel. So so or seek safe harbor, right? So this is this is our
[29:49] land bucket. And on the operating That's catchy. For those online that couldn't
[30:07] hear of. We're about to do some so our forecasted operating expenses. You can
[30:16] see that the distribution here no surprise as is typical in most sports security, law
[30:26] enforcement, fire, rescue and personnel are 2 largest buckets for for any ports
[30:31] expense. Portfolio. And I think we've got some more details here on the next
[30:38] slide. We can do this comparison. So overall, you can see a 2% increase compared
[30:48] to our budget from our adopted budget for this current fiscal year. And I'll just to remind
[30:54] the commission the board that our revenues or forecasted increase 11%. We're very proud
[31:02] of that cost control while still providing the right service and an infrastructure
[31:08] upkeep that is required of our tenants in our ship. Our stakeholders, but on the
[31:13] revenue side, we're happy to see that that's growing at a faster pace. Of course, we
[31:16] have a lot of projects. The fund not just bless you. Not just in the short term but
[31:26] long term, right? We have tremendous aspirations that are in line with market needs
[31:31] market assumptions. So so every dollar, of course, that we earn goes right back into
[31:35] investing in the future. A call out on on the security and the fire EMS. There is a
[31:45] double last there. You can see the bullet at the bottom of the slide. what I understand.
[31:52] These negotiations are still ongoing. So these are not final numbers, but this is
[31:57] assumption. As of now. The best deputy port director in the world's just whispered in
[32:13] my ear and suggested I also call of the stress, which is our personnel because of the
[32:18] strength and the performance of our crews. Business. We feel it is appropriate and
[32:25] where we're thankful to have the support of county administration on.
[32:30] strengthening that team by adding some frontline workforce as well as an
[32:34] overall director level position to run that segment of our business. So 3 total
[32:39] headcount being proposed. How many people encompass the personnel? So our total head
[32:47] count as of right now is 270 us giving 268. And if those 3 positions are approved, it
[32:53] will be 271. >> 2, 271 in that budget for that 36 Million. That's
[32:59] correct. >> And then, of course, another important aspect of
[33:09] what we what we do at the ports is our capital improvements program. For the
[33:15] first time, the five-year road map is looking out at over a billion dollars. And so I
[33:19] mentioned to, you know, an important a balance between our cost in our revenue. And
[33:23] this is why. You know, from from the 309 million in general infrastructure
[33:32] 181 million in cruise terminals as well as nearly 300 million on bulkheads,
[33:39] which continues be an important part of, you know, >> our future for the larger
[33:49] vessels as well you know, replacing old aged infrastructure. I think I
[33:50] mentioned last year we got our money's worth with the current bull kids that are throughout
[33:55] the port. They outlive their technical lifetime. So this is an important project for the
[34:02] port that our tenants. And then of course, down in the bottom left, we continue to
[34:07] have 100 million reserve to spend on deepening and widening, which continues to
[34:12] make progress at the federal level. Not always as fast, I think as we would like. But we
[34:17] do have a have good momentum and hopefully some milestones upcoming to support. Senator
[34:23] Geller is. >> Waiting waiting for that one. to get worse. Been
[34:29] waiting for this for over 30 years. You're not alone, But we continue to put. I believe,
[34:38] a healthy amount of effort into this. And I think that the conversations that we're
[34:41] having with folks dour steering this to a place where hopefully we can, we can see
[34:47] some of that rather than paper, right? We can see that infrastructure change.
[34:53] Highlighting some of the capital improvements that are proposed as part of our Master
[34:56] vision plan. We talked about bulk. It's already we've got some that have been completed
[35:01] and some that continue to to make progress for their next steps. We continue to work
[35:06] with our tenants on this. We've done this for nothing. Simple, quote, unquote, simple
[35:10] things such as fender replacements to work with our cargo lines. cargo operators
[35:16] to make sure that doesn't impede their schedule too much. We've got our crane
[35:21] project, which is ongoing. We do the same thing. Scheduling effort, scheduling efforts are
[35:25] extremely important and we appreciate their their collaboration. There and pull
[35:29] kids will be the same. We've actually shifted a couple of these to align better for our
[35:34] cruise partners based on their ship deployments. So, you know, it's important part
[35:40] having a highly utilized high-performing port and being able to maintain that while we
[35:46] do some of these massive major infrastructure upgrades or replacement. So I'll just do a
[35:53] quick shout out to the Port Everglades team as well as all of our tenants for for having
[35:55] those not always easy, but but important discussions. As mentioned already parking. We
[36:05] know that there's a continued demand for that. So we do have a project out on the street
[36:09] right now that would create at least one additional vertical parking structure in the port.
[36:15] And I already mentioned our crane upgrades that continues to progress. Slipped one. We
[36:22] talked about a little bit and our consolidated maintenance facility campus is is on its
[36:32] 3rd sites. Now, as we look to maximise position proximity as well as land availability in
[36:40] the port. So our team is is moving forward with with that, 3rd site as potentially and
[36:45] likely the final our second floor addition for our Port Security Operation Center
[36:53] continues to be in progress. but it's another year away or so from be finalized. And, you
[37:02] know, cruise terminals are a big part of our crews. crews offering right. And these that
[37:13] we have in line too modernize to improve their state. These are receiving great feedback
[37:21] from from our cruise line partners as not only necessary, but also welcome
[37:29] improve the attractiveness. 4 for the port. We've talked about all 3 of those there on
[37:37] the bottom. And I believe that concludes the. Fy 27 budget overview. We know that last
[37:48] Friday that county administration shared the latest feasibility study as it
[37:52] relates to law enforcement security from Jensen choose specifically this time about
[38:00] Port Everglades. And I believe if you haven't had a chance review that, that the high
[38:04] level you know, the answer is yes, it is indeed feasible over a rough time period for 3
[38:15] to 5 years. And then the cost is given to cost. Estimates are also in that that report.
[38:22] There are some assumptions in And, you know, we've got not only Glenn who's been leading
[38:28] this project for us, but we do have members from Jensen News that are here in the audience
[38:35] that to contribute to that report. So we thank them for for that. I believe. We want
[38:42] to tee that up for questions on everything. Then. That concludes my presentation. I
[38:49] think stations of do, you put anybody to sleep. That's that's the best thing. You
[38:54] know. go run any questions. We'll start on the side and come around. Okay.
[39:01] Commissioner Davis. >> who's doing that presentation? So we didn't
[39:15] have a plan presentation planet. I never to county administration on.
[39:21] >> We have the ability to we have some size. I believe that we can share. I think just
[39:25] going to see if there were questions that the consultants are here and they can come to
[39:31] the table give an overview if you'd like. And and also know between JAL and Michael Ruiz,
[39:37] we're going to go through it with you you had. If you'd like us to go through it in
[39:41] particular type of a presentation format. So that's not going to done today. What
[39:47] we can if we'd like, if you'd like, I don't know of that a boy that, you know, if it's
[39:51] not done now would like done. You individually, if it's not done the open. So that's part
[39:57] of. So will certainly like to see it done. And the show would like to know. We're
[40:06] talking BSO. >> That would consume several hours. today's meeting. I know
[40:13] that we have time. I agree with Commissioner Davis. It's important to have this done in
[40:20] the public just don't know that we can. When we say it's simply time for that day. We
[40:22] can do that. I thank you for the chopper. And then just a couple of questions.
[40:36] >> I know you mentioned about the cruise ships. The couple moving with a moving And
[40:40] moving to out port. But I think new ships or they move in from some other.
[40:49] >> Those are the legend of the seas that the 2 that I referenced earlier in the
[40:51] presentation Legend of the Seas is going to be a new ship for Port Everglades. It is
[40:55] fresh out of the shipyard earlier this summer. >> And has been active in the
[41:01] Europe and Mediterranean during the season. But it will call Port Everglades home as
[41:06] as its first U.S. or North America tour. the other one. And the other one is a
[41:13] renovated from Crystal Cruise lines. That is more on the luxury end of crews offerings
[41:20] so much smaller ship. But but that renovation, I'm not sure how much money they put into
[41:29] that. But they've done a I believe they've done one every other year for the last couple
[41:32] years. >> It's a question for you was the rideshare. You mentioned
[41:38] that to. No parking few is I do believe that point was the opposite. Is there reasons for
[41:45] that? >> So we continue to see with the changing itineraries and
[41:52] this has been evolving over the last couple years with cruise lines. They're they're
[41:56] moving to shorter cruises in some cases, right? They're still offering 7.10. And then
[42:01] in some extreme cases, you know, 14 day itineraries as well as some very special
[42:09] repositioning, which are typically one way of wages for Freddie Cruz. Guess that would
[42:11] come out of Port Everglades. But there's also been an injection of a lot of 3, 4,
[42:19] cruise itineraries. And this has 100% to do with the massive investment to the
[42:22] cruise lines of made in the Caribbean. The private islands and their control of the
[42:27] itineraries in the offerings and our proximity our location. 2 to those private
[42:34] islands, they're able to still provide a great experience for their guests on a shorter
[42:41] sailing. So with that, we see a higher acceptance of a being able you driving in paying for
[42:49] parking. But it also, I think also speaks a little bit more to a drive-in market, which we
[42:54] are roughly 78% drive and 22% fly. And based on the last day to set that we have.
[42:59] >> Thank you. That makes makes sense. And then and then lastly, no, I'd spoken before.
[43:06] assist support opportunity is. And it mentioned that there are no system ports of the
[43:13] continent of Africa. We still looking that put unity n thank you. Mentioned Arco. You know,
[43:20] I know. I made a you know, they have several. to support in the continent. And just
[43:28] surprise. We have none. In the continent. >> Commissioner, we actually
[43:37] are still working on the formal did speak with county administration this morning.
[43:41] If you recall back in for February or March, there was direction from from the board
[43:48] too formalize that sister seaports program. So we've done a couple iterations. The
[43:52] latest one, we should be sharing with county administration before the end
[43:54] of this week and we'll bring that before the board, which will then allow us to to go in
[44:01] and partner and signed agreements with the ports from all over the world and
[44:05] particular focus where we have some blind spots right now. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.
[44:11] Well done. Thank you. >> You know questions better than that. Yeah, I better than
[44:23] that. Yes. Mrs that are that are good job. >> And I
[44:31] >> in reference to the port mix that we have roughly 3rd, 3rd 3003th, though, it's not
[44:33] really but close that for those of us that were the commission during COVID will
[44:42] remember that. Well, other ports around the country that were primarily cruise ports
[44:44] were dying. Our mixed of big 3 is what kept us afloat. So, you know, that's important. A
[44:53] couple of very quick questions. And I actually, I last 2 or 3 now and then. But
[44:59] you answer all 3. Number one is and war cruise fees compared to our competitors
[45:07] here in Florida. I mean, our. assume it's I don't know if it's whether it's per
[45:15] passenger or tonnage, but are we competitive with? Major competitors here in Florida.
[45:24] Secondly, if you can give us brief update on the deepening niamh.
[45:30] So, you know, I worked on that when I was in the legislature been big supporter on the
[45:35] commission. I'm unfortunately Cup starting to believe it's not going to occur during my
[45:40] tenure on the commission. I have a little over 2 years left and seems whenever we
[45:47] resolve one lawsuit, another one gets filed I'm just hoping to give us a quick update on
[45:54] that. And finally, as I've told you before, you know, big supporter, high-paid jobs we
[46:00] get at the port. If there is any additional land that you can purchase for the port.
[46:07] Don't discuss it publicly, of course. I think that the commission would be supportive
[46:13] of that. And if you can answer those questions have done. Right. So I got this right
[46:22] question. Number one, how to work crews, fees, compare with other cruise ports here in the
[46:24] state. >> and want you to comment on the last one. So only 2 had
[46:32] work crews fees and give us an update in deepening that. So so crews fees, I think our
[46:37] unique for every port because what's what's called a passenger use or charge or is,
[46:43] you know, it's going to encompass different fees for for every port, depending on
[46:48] their structure. I'm not sure and apples to apples. If we were just take the publicly
[46:52] available rates that are signed with the individual cruise lines on on their
[46:56] contracts. But we could we could probably follow up and see if we can do some sort of
[47:04] comparison for for us. I mean, our biggest baseline is are we better today than we were
[47:06] yesterday? All right. We are trying to bring some things a little closer in line with
[47:11] with market with our competitors but remain an attractive partner for a
[47:16] cruise line. So that balance, I'm sure you can appreciate is one that that our team is very
[47:20] focused on on maintaining. >> And we will be a. >> I'll be in the next month
[47:29] or so. Bringing for the latest cruise Line extension agreement for Royal Caribbean
[47:33] for the board to to review and approve. Hopefully, but we can follow up with with details of
[47:41] how that comparison looks just interested. I know where airport is one of the lowest
[47:44] fees in the country. And I'm a big supporter of stealing cruise business from other
[47:49] cruise ports. If we can. Understood. >> On deepening and widening,
[47:55] there continues to be review of the project. >> With the the main goal of
[48:02] getting getting it moving. Now there's been a lot of changes with the current
[48:10] administration and how they view the the federal responsibilities, certain
[48:16] agencies and that review has been very active here this year. And we hope within the
[48:20] next couple of months that we see some sort of conclusion from the federal partners that
[48:26] have been involved those discussions and those reviews which will allow us to have a
[48:30] clear path forward, not just on timeline, but then, hey, what are the first couple
[48:33] things that we might be able to do? Outside of a potential litigation that that is
[48:43] active. like I said to, you know, hopefully see some movement on this project
[48:46] rather than see a lot of paperwork. >> I have question, a The
[48:54] report. That was I ask about the deepening a but that was answer and often? Asking for
[49:03] updates on that. Well, my my question will come from Tourism Development Council.
[49:11] Last meeting. The board was concerned about park and you mention it. In your report.
[49:16] But you see going to put it out for bid. >> So we we actually already
[49:27] did. And we've got some some the RFP closed, I believe, in August or early August, July,
[49:31] excuse me. So we have 7 bids and the evaluation committee doing that work now to
[49:39] determine the next steps. And my concern is I didn't know how grave.
[49:46] >> Urgency was 4 par going know that they have for years is First time really? Getting
[49:54] into the nuts and bolts of it. But I this 3rd. Parking is a big concern over here. So all
[50:05] the crews ships are. At Port. And another event is going on. We just paid an investment in
[50:13] a sawmill tell and all the of improvements at the convention Center and we're putting a
[50:20] parking garage out. Now. I mean, it's like the they've got wasn't here. how
[50:27] do we get? So far behind on that have been parking for. What we're marketing day in
[50:37] India as a big economic engine. We don't have sufficient parking. So my
[50:46] board was concerned. I was glad brought it up. But I was also taken aback when this
[50:51] presented to be and I sit on this board maybe someone could help me. Wrap my. Head around.
[50:56] What? Why? We're here. >> The vice mayor, I will say for cruise parking
[51:03] availability a majority of the year. We are in great shape. Wear and mention that as part
[51:10] of our terminal investment over the summer to get ready for the largest cruise ship in
[51:13] the world. We have increased parking by 852 spaces. >> will I a concern. But where
[51:25] we have. Are peaks around holiday travel and holiday cruise. That's where we have
[51:34] to get creative. And we redeploy some available space within the port and we make
[51:40] adjustments with with short staff that are parking their to to support, you know, the
[51:44] multiple cruise ships that are in on those peak days that peak travel time. So we get
[51:49] creative with with where those folks are able to park to ensure that the cruise guests
[51:56] have space. So we've manage it but we know that that continued growth, we will need
[52:02] additional availability will need additional resources. So this is why now we're looking
[52:06] at this additional parking structure and mid port to go vertical so that we can
[52:12] continue to redeploy the limited land that we have for the right purpose. And we
[52:17] don't think that a flat lot, which is what we did with the 852 additional spaces. During
[52:23] this summer. We don't think a flat lot is is the way to right. We know we need to be
[52:25] vertically. So I want to follow this week has to be >> You give me an aunt of the
[52:32] predicts your arrival here. But somehow misses something, Monica, that. We didn't plan
[52:38] for parking. And I know that you make the accommodations the peak times at the of the
[52:45] cruise ships. But it is my understanding, you know, that is a critical parking issue
[52:52] here at the port. >> So, yes, vice mayor and you're correct. There is a
[52:59] critical parking situation you know, we we have I think monthly meetings or maybe even
[53:07] more frequent than they are frequently that with with the city, Fort Lauderdale, who and
[53:12] BSO and all of our partners with the are they located? for traffic management because
[53:23] you're right. When we have conventions or activity at the convention center at the same
[53:30] time with some of this cruise activity. as you know, the director year has shared the
[53:37] increase and the crews activity and that would keep breaking records that that's
[53:41] contributing to the situation. But quite frankly, we at the time of the finishing of the
[53:54] convention center. We completing that project, the expansion and the new hotel we
[54:00] had immediately started planning with new parking structure the North port area.
[54:05] And so so that's another component that we're looking at and that we're already
[54:08] doing the RFP on some because that is critical. is part of is this?
[54:14] >> This proposed parking garage to living up to. Securus just Yeah. Where that
[54:19] C 500 spots a belief. >> The missive from North Porter, the North port. Yeah,
[54:26] that one. don't know. The party believes that one is. It's maybe another. 25 people.
[54:35] 4500. Okay. So my apologies. I'm think I'm confusing, OK? So. I don't believe it what I
[54:40] will do is 4500 spots. I want to belabor, but maybe we can put this in your parking that
[54:49] put that starting. This project is working as of yet on the So what do Because I
[54:55] think it's critical to get my kids. Okay. It's already on their parents and dash board
[54:59] as it. Yes, my team is telling me that on there are one step. It's on there. It's on the
[55:05] dashboard there. Just showing it him. Well, don't so. So you've got to get get more
[55:10] information about what's going. Yeah, we'll make sure we send something out. But it
[55:15] is on the dashboards are telling me, okay. Maybe you guys want to come to my our
[55:19] next meeting and explain to my board will be happy to do that in just for reference. Thank
[55:24] you, mayor and vice mayor You know, we obviously connect on districts a lot in there was a
[55:33] issues with 70 she Cosby's traffic dealing with Uber's and so forth and the harbor
[55:40] area really got up and rolled up in arms about parking. And it's immediate. A
[55:44] presentation. And I think and we've got Joe there there with everybody there. Monica,
[55:51] Polly, be a nice thing pay before is to meet it to have that presentation given to
[55:56] each of the other commissioners because I think it talks about. Off-site
[56:00] parking talks about other venues that they're looking at. They were going to make
[56:04] that over the summer time. But it really gives you a really footprint that you can look at
[56:08] it when it comes to parking, I be beneficial. And and again us and we did a fantastic job.
[56:14] She's got that presentation takes 15 minutes. What we're happy that will bring you to
[56:18] board as well. Vice mayor, thank you. But just for reference, the midpoint
[56:22] parking structure that's in our immediate plans. It's interactive pipeline is
[56:26] knowsley around 2000 additional spaces as part of a future planned modernization
[56:31] of terminal. 29. We envision another parking to to accommodate down there. So. We
[56:41] do have more in the pipeline. But again, you know, are our issue comes around about 3
[56:47] weeks during various holiday peaks and were able to manage and accommodate it with with
[56:53] today's volumes and forecast. >> vice mayor will make sure. And commissioner Fisher to a
[57:00] point we'll make sure in that presentation that we updated to include if it's not already
[57:03] there, all of the parking improvements all throughout the port.
[57:06] >> So that we could have those conversations and commission officials responses. I was
[57:14] house in Fort Lauderdale City that we just talked about at the time with the bad pass and
[57:20] traffic those folks who would I know I know. How they feel, but we still have to figure
[57:24] out, you know, where are we going while we're We're anticipating this to be and
[57:31] day. So we can't just, you know, always Have been able dictate to us. You know what
[57:39] we have to do here with the economic we been very, very accommodating you. Robin
[57:45] Rogers and spent a lot of time Vance wants others who really took the the lead on this to
[57:51] get it done. But to hear it, you know it. The Tourism Council. It just concerns me.
[57:58] So I want to make sure that we pay attention see what we can to keep that moving on pace.
[58:07] To Echo Commissioner job. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. Also good job. It's
[58:15] nice to First light, a lot of confidence and you and your stuff. And that makes But I
[58:18] think for all of us and makes a lot easier, we kind of know it's been run well, appreciate
[58:23] that. The mix and that makes a big difference. Lets see more money coming in than going
[58:26] out. That's great. >> Of the one thing that I have, you know, as I as I've
[58:31] been here a while and I've watched the inflation over the increase in the cost, doing
[58:36] the dredging. Just skyrocket. And I I don't know if our reserves keep up with that.
[58:44] And can you can you? Speak to a little bit? Because I I don't see a number on reserves
[58:50] here. I do know what the you know, expected costs are on that. Are they keeping up? So
[59:01] the official cost estimate for the dredging project was shared by the assistant
[59:07] secretary of the Army earlier this that number is, in their words, you know.
[59:13] >> Not realistic. So this is where the efforts for the last 6 months in an ongoing our our
[59:19] focused as to how to bring expensive project back and affordable state. Not just the
[59:27] U.S. taxpayer, but you know, for all the project contributors of which Broward
[59:32] County Port Everglades will be one so that is I would argue the main driver for the review
[59:39] that's been happening at the federal level is to get that to a reasonable level. The
[59:47] last official cost estimate was at 1.3, 5 billion. And at that number, we have a clear
[59:52] path forward on how we can afford it. I mean, what is what has driven that causes in
[59:58] environmental impact? That's right. But but far. >> And and I want to I wonder
[1:00:03] if on the front end because what they're asking is for us to grow a ton of coral. I
[1:00:11] mean, a million world. Something like that that. It's not one. It's impossible to do
[1:00:18] all once. It's something that I think it makes sense that we start. Growing coral now. And
[1:00:24] some way. And I know now that Kristin Jacobs, Aquatic Zone Management plan is now in
[1:00:32] effect as of a month ago. I fly. You just got a million dollar grant toward that of of
[1:00:40] starting to grow coral. I think we should be starting to look at that because that
[1:00:47] because and maybe utilizing the state park up there. As a place to do it. and I know
[1:00:52] there's people that are looking at that as well. But only makes sense to get a head
[1:00:56] start on that. Any end, you know, even regardless of what happens with dredging either
[1:01:02] way, it's good. So I guess I want to see part of our plans are to address that. Because,
[1:01:11] you know, they're going to be asking is how you gonna do that? We have to have an
[1:01:16] answer. And right now we don't have an answer. Not not that satisfactory. If you want to
[1:01:21] speak to that or not. But so, commissioner, I know you know you know, there are a lot of
[1:01:28] what ifs with this project. And, you know, the true scope of where this ends up. You
[1:01:32] know, I know the Broward County and Port Everglades remain steadfast in our
[1:01:38] position that we we know we need to be and we want to be good environmental stewards.
[1:01:40] So what does that balance? >> And I think that uncertainty is clouding the
[1:01:45] ability to move forward with some of these tangible things. I know this is a, you know,
[1:01:52] pre project coral There are some initiatives that are out there. And I think there's
[1:01:58] some partners available to us both in the private sector and in the education sector right?
[1:02:07] So we can put that on our list see how how, you know, we do have discussions with them.
[1:02:14] High-level admittedly, until there's some clarity on what is going to be required
[1:02:17] because that is a big point of debate as I'm sure you can appreciate. And though this
[1:02:21] unusually fall under where managers the coral stuff. But unfortunately, becoming a part
[1:02:28] that we have to deal with. And then, you know, rightfully so. used to be an incredible will
[1:02:34] reeve out there. That's the minutes considerably. OK? So the other part is I the make
[1:02:42] first question was or the reserves. Saying. Up with inflation. Let Lee a Brasil
[1:02:51] handle that. Or we or yet we're Blitzer said >> I would say that our
[1:02:59] reserves are solid south because the GFA way recommendation of either 2
[1:03:02] months operating expenses or 2 months operating revenues, which for us would be about
[1:03:05] 25 million or 44 million are budgeted operating reserve for Fy. 27 is about 105 Million.
[1:03:12] Okay. More than exceeded those targets. Capital reserves. Right now we have about
[1:03:20] 20 million just setting set aside, but it's really their intended for cost overruns.
[1:03:24] That might come about when we take items to the board that we would have that money
[1:03:27] sitting there as an adjustment. >> Because I thought we had a
[1:03:33] lot more what we also. thank you, Leah. I also want to add I know during the presentation
[1:03:37] on slide 15, there was a cip that capital improvement the Army. It's 100 million dollars
[1:03:43] for the deepening project. And those are what we're anticipating. I would be the
[1:03:48] reserve amount, but it would be over the next couple of years. And that's for that
[1:03:55] deepening project so goals of what or what reserves we would need for that particular
[1:03:58] project. So we have a General Reserve Leigh and described. We have operating reserves and
[1:04:03] as well as the individual annual cip reserves. But then we also have because of this
[1:04:09] project being so. You know, important, big enlarge, massive project. We you know,
[1:04:18] singularly identified this, pulled it out of the other reserve pot. Okay. But only
[1:04:22] reserve you're saying this. >> Well, should say that that's the budgeted reserved
[1:04:28] for 27. But as far as the the port's overall fiscal health through the 2nd quarter of
[1:04:35] this fiscal year. We have about 355 million un unrestricted cash and
[1:04:41] investments. >> That's more. So it's well. But that's the number that's
[1:04:43] number you are expected 20, didn't quite cut bank. So so there's a difference,
[1:04:46] obviously, between unrestricted cash, unrestricted cash and set
[1:04:50] aside reserves and so it's we got a little. Complex with the with with the language, right.
[1:04:56] But we have more than sufficient reserves at our disposal again. guess what? My
[1:05:04] my point is. >> I first started here the that amount of reserves we had
[1:05:09] was a I think, a pretty high percentage of what the expected cost was. Getting
[1:05:15] further and further away. From that expected cost that that's my concern. So I guess, you
[1:05:23] know. However, we can get closer. But bread, although it is to bring the cost down a
[1:05:32] bit. I think we all share that goal. That's right. Okay. other I think my other the
[1:05:37] other questions have been answered but others. Thank you.
[1:05:46] >> Presentation Senator, I just follow up on this because I'm a little confused about
[1:05:49] this. So we have 100 million dollars that we have listed here. That is from reserves.
[1:05:53] Where where is that from? >> So this this is not the 100 million not checked.
[1:06:02] Appropriation. Guess it's it's future project appropriations. We have a blend of of
[1:06:07] appropriations that have been made in prior years and the future ones that are in the
[1:06:10] cip. talking at 1.0, 3, 5 billion dollars. So. >> As the last approved, cost
[1:06:23] estimate from August of look at David now 2023. >> August of 2023. That was
[1:06:31] the project estimated cost that is officially approved by the federal government. David
[1:06:41] Anderton, our system port director asked >> Thank you. So that.
[1:06:54] >> Cost is the total project cost. That's that's not the cost share Broward County.
[1:07:03] Typically these projects are funded both by the federal government and by the local
[1:07:08] sponsor. So the local sponsor in this case, the port, Broward County is going to be
[1:07:12] responsible for roughly 35% of that total cost. So it's a significantly lower number.
[1:07:18] Then the total project that was that was going to be my question is what percent is
[1:07:22] the federal government supposedly response of 2 could be anticipate.
[1:07:26] >> Would be their percentage because otherwise this 100 million is nearly enough.
[1:07:30] That's right. So so I didn't understand your question. But, David, I hope clarified at
[1:07:36] that. >> Yes, indeed. You know, while there are segments of
[1:07:38] the project where the cost share is at a higher proportion than what you
[1:07:40] mentioned, the overall blended ends being about 35% for the local sponsor. All right.
[1:07:45] Thank you. >> another question. I noticed meant we were going through
[1:07:53] this about the hotel registration being up. How is that being accomplished? Are
[1:07:58] you promoting? It is a tourist development who is hearing about the convention center
[1:08:03] because I know you know that obviously a lot of people are we're staying there before
[1:08:09] after cruises. >> So with our cruise line partners, they were very
[1:08:15] interested is the on the was being constructed in developed and then once opened, there
[1:08:20] are already discussions that happened with a few of the partner cruise lines that we
[1:08:22] have that became partners of the Omni Hotel and now they package that is part of the
[1:08:27] bundles that they offer for bookended. stays associated with with a cruise, the exact
[1:08:34] numbers, the on the team I think would probably be best position to share. But what we
[1:08:39] heard numbers for 2 months of this year of 399 407 guests associated with crews that
[1:08:47] stayed at the hotel during those months. So for them you know, that's that's a good
[1:08:53] performance based on their overall availability overall room nights available, et
[1:08:57] cetera, et cetera. So we're happy that they're happy. Great, OK, good.
[1:09:04] >> And I just wondered, are we doing anything to entice people not to park when they
[1:09:09] come for crews. In other words, as there's some incentive or something we
[1:09:14] could do for 2 urged people. don't know. But I'm just asking the question mean, you
[1:09:21] know, to promote some other. >> I would say if I can answer this way and it looks like
[1:09:27] Monica's got a comment as well. Is. We're also ensuring that our rideshare service is
[1:09:35] improved. So a couple things happening is we're actually improving the connectivity for
[1:09:42] cellular services in the port. So that's going to be ongoing here that they probably should
[1:09:45] break ground before the end of the year. And that will improve the signal and the
[1:09:50] coverage for especially during our peak where I'm sure if you've experienced it, you're
[1:09:55] in a high-demand area. You can't get a signal fast enough to really capture that right.
[1:10:00] So that's from sort of the technical piece. But from also physical on the ground peas,
[1:10:05] we're taking some steps to improve the traffic flow and circulation related to the
[1:10:10] rideshare pick-up and drop offs. So maybe that's the closest I can give it to say
[1:10:16] that word. Not necessarily promoting people park. I would say we don't actively promote
[1:10:20] people to park, but it is something that big portion of our crews guest require. So we
[1:10:27] we make sure that we've got the availability in the offering.
[1:10:32] >> And so and what I was going add in started to hit on the rideshare peace, but also
[1:10:38] because of this does to stick that Joe shared earlier about, I believe a 78% rate of of our
[1:10:45] clientele are are driving to the port that continues to be one of the things we're trying
[1:10:52] to address with these additional parking structures. apart from that is also that
[1:10:59] rideshare and education on additionally, when we have large events happening at the
[1:11:07] same time, the convention center when we have these peak demands, we have started even
[1:11:15] have conversations even the water taxi to promote people that are coming to the
[1:11:19] convention center for an activity to not drive there and to partner up with you
[1:11:26] know, some other means of transportation to get on site to those locations. So we're
[1:11:32] looking at creative solutions. And until those additional parking, those are the things
[1:11:35] we have to kind of lean on. >> We do also ensure that our taxi providers are
[1:11:42] accommodated with some some queuing space as well, which, you know. There's this balance
[1:11:49] between, you know, the space that we have available and then deploying it to improve
[1:11:51] our guest experience. And that's that's what we're focused on. And the last
[1:11:57] question had to do with the shoreline. We've been talking about that along the shore
[1:11:59] power. I mean. >> So what is the estimate for this?
[1:12:02] >> So short power that the study has it's referred to was approved by by the board. Back
[1:12:10] in June for you. Come to do the design study of this. So where they are looking is, you
[1:12:18] know where where does it make sense from a cost perspective ease of deployment perspective
[1:12:25] to to make sure power available. Now we have in our cip over the next 10 years.
[1:12:31] The potential to do all 8 terminals. We will look at doing that in phases. I think
[1:12:38] it's it's wise, but there also could be future grant opportunities, which is an
[1:12:41] opportunity that, you know, we need to explore right now. There aren't so many that are
[1:12:47] on the emissions side of things or alternative fuels side of things. But but for us
[1:12:53] right now, we know there's a certain demand with certain cruise lines and we're going
[1:12:56] to be targeting a couple of terminals where there's already a solid head start on
[1:13:02] infrastructure to be able to get that deployed. So a rough timeline. Glenn, if you can,
[1:13:10] can any rough timeline on on maybe the for shore power being available.
[1:13:17] >> Thanks, Senator. So the the timeline hour there in the design phase to service 2
[1:13:24] cruise terminals. The expectation is that the designs will be complete in
[1:13:29] the early late. 27 early. 28 were working when Fpnl on their their design of their
[1:13:36] substation, which has to be constructed by them to provide the session dedicated power.
[1:13:41] So we're looking at 29 now to be in a position for the first. Chips to have that
[1:13:47] capability. >> It just seems like a very long time. We've been talking
[1:13:53] about it and it just, you know, and Miami has star power. I mean. We're so just
[1:14:03] thought maybe since we're in the phase already of design, we could be further along. And
[1:14:05] 29. >> you know, part of our focus with our vendor to simplify is
[1:14:16] to do this in phases and really target that. But it does take a take a village, as
[1:14:21] they say, right? So Fpnl is a big part of those discussions and making sure that we've got
[1:14:27] utility available to support the heavy demand that comes with a cruise ship.
[1:14:30] >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Just a couple quick items. To the parking is recommended. Go
[1:14:40] for the 20 to 25 at the daily or a correct? That's correct. I think that's a wise move
[1:14:45] because every can see the revenue take up what you do that. So I like that. I think
[1:14:49] you'll also see. More plans talk about parking, going back into garages, being full and
[1:14:59] the signage opportunity we can have on 7th Street to let people know exactly. forward
[1:15:03] not full. I think that's going to be a big play, too. So but for that presentation as well.
[1:15:11] now look to Glenn, I guess because he answered this question. On the Broad
[1:15:15] Sheriff's office, law enforcement, the 8% in the 5% with fire rescue. You pretty
[1:15:19] confident that's going to be the numbers are. And what's what's past shown? In other
[1:15:23] words, have you been able to? On your assumption every year we've been pretty close.
[1:15:30] >> Yes, commissioner of the >> the variable is, you know. As you may or may not be aware
[1:15:39] when the sheriff came to us with their budget request for and why 27. They actually
[1:15:46] started with the baseline of what they asked for in Fy 20 sex even though they can get
[1:15:51] it. So on the fire rescue side. Initial request was 28% increase. And on the law
[1:16:01] enforcement side, it was 23%. We've sat down with them twice that. We have one more round
[1:16:12] to go. But, you know, we've made it clear to them while one. We start from what the
[1:16:18] final approved budget was for them for fy. 26 not. Whatever they ask for. So we are we are
[1:16:23] working with them. They have identified one of their requests, for example, as we
[1:16:29] use a lot of detail. I just deputies, deputies and and TSA's consume service aids
[1:16:38] during the peak of the cruise season. The deal with the traffic. So I think you've
[1:16:44] heard at the airport, they use over time for a lot of these things that we use. We still
[1:16:47] use of the tower 8. So they came to us and asked for an increase to that detail,
[1:16:51] right? So we're still working with them on. How does that translate into the dollar
[1:16:58] site? But from my perspective, I I think we're we're very close to where we are and
[1:17:00] where, where we'll end up. When it to the first budget hearing here 2 weeks.
[1:17:09] >> Thank you, if I can add something in response that also that I think will be
[1:17:11] helpful. Another thing and vice mayor, to your point, the long-term planning of the
[1:17:24] connector project. So along with that is also the Intermodal Center at the
[1:17:30] airport. I know that a large lot of those spaces and your 7,000 parking spaces at the
[1:17:34] Intermodal Center that will be constructed and long-term, I thought and hope will be that
[1:17:40] not only will we take. Cars off the road coming into the port. It will be in
[1:17:47] conjunction with all of that Intermodal Center because, you know, people can come in by
[1:17:54] light rail park may be at the Intermodal Center, be able to transport into the port
[1:17:57] without taking more cars into the port. So all of these things will be helping relieve
[1:18:03] the pressure valve. It's still a couple years away, obviously. But we'll include
[1:18:07] that also in that presentation for you. Make a comment. I brought the parking issue
[1:18:16] because the issue. >> We all been working in some form of matter. When I got
[1:18:23] they won 4 years ago. We talked about this animal, but these rails. We talked about
[1:18:29] it when I first got in Fort Lauderdale. That was a real was killed on day one of a new
[1:18:32] commission. And I will see animal system right now. is being the answer to what we
[1:18:37] want know as long term, but we haven't done our environmental see if we can. see we can, you
[1:18:42] know, get to where we need to go. So. It wasn't too. >> To stir up anything. But it
[1:18:50] was just to find out where we are with parking because we just invested.
[1:18:56] >> A lot of lot of money. And then now I'm getting softball is about, you know, this
[1:18:59] animal I've heard about animal in the last. You're so it works We haven't talked about
[1:19:04] animal system the way we did day one about. 3 components and was going in what being
[1:19:13] was doing you know, and Reverend, it's just a lot of things that it gets hot. And
[1:19:18] gets cold. This series about because of the investment we just made this. I want to make
[1:19:27] sure I can go back and stomach boil what's going on and that's what it's about. It's
[1:19:29] not about, you know, trying to do too dismiss it. The rail it And do mean that. Pun
[1:19:37] intended. But and that I think would be a full well. So I want to make sure that we keep
[1:19:45] it in the forefront we tackle it. I don't know if we can ever tackle this a little
[1:19:50] thing because >> just too many moving parts, all the stuff that's going on
[1:19:54] and Washington, D.C., these federal dollars on. I don't know we can get there but
[1:19:56] parking I think we can handle. Right here where the car came. But might say 25, but we can
[1:20:02] do it here and get it down. So that was the whole point of or what? Yes or no will be
[1:20:07] prepared. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and I too will say Joe, great job.
[1:20:16] >> In the details because of that. But is we? I rely on, OK, look at this budget and
[1:20:20] I'm trying not to compare your budget too any off the other departments and I would name
[1:20:26] the ones that I would normally look at. When I think about your budget and that is the
[1:20:33] property appraiser's budget. difference with those attacks collector DSO in E. All of
[1:20:40] those are totally different. All right. Because we can tell them what to do and they can
[1:20:47] go. I ops get a resolution. With you. I think we can talk through it. Because you will
[1:20:56] have a different funding source. I am saying because should be questioning what you
[1:21:03] do and we are aksing questions because we are accountable and, you know, we're making
[1:21:10] the investment also along with 2 with supporting the widening and the dredging so we can
[1:21:16] attract or to ships and all of that. So I'm saying sitting here today our vice mayor
[1:21:23] because of serving on a board, the particular aboard, it popped out at him that parking
[1:21:32] is an area that we needed to discuss in this budget. Because be me, though, very
[1:21:37] significant investment in that convention center and you know, and all of those things.
[1:21:46] So we needed to have that discussion. And I am saying my God, that should be part of
[1:21:51] the discussion when we were planning as to parking and conflict of interest in the
[1:21:59] different activities at the same time at the port. But we're having those discussions
[1:22:03] now. We're getting right and says, I think I'm feeling some relief that it is not as bad
[1:22:09] because you guys really thought it. But if the discussion did not come up
[1:22:15] today. We would assume that it was done from vision in time from those period of time. But
[1:22:23] not it's never too late. >> If I commissioner, just want to clarify for for the
[1:22:29] board, for for all the folks that are listening in the port has never had to turn away a
[1:22:33] cruise gas that was in search of parking. We do have our our peak demand and it does it
[1:22:40] gets it gets tight. >> A senior management is what I'm trying to say. team is
[1:22:47] managing it's your management. with with with the opening of the expansion of the
[1:22:50] convention center, the Omni Hotel, I have seen some very healthy discussions with
[1:22:55] multiple parties around how to creatively manage that and redeploy land. And I think
[1:23:00] that this upcoming season will be able to to enact more of that. So, you know, coming in,
[1:23:08] it's one always be perfect. But as long as we're better. >> And whenever I fly out
[1:23:13] Miami because says no. Flights out of Fort Lauderdale, of course, I am told to park in
[1:23:20] hotels. I don't know. Yeah. They make arrangements for local hotels motels for us to
[1:23:27] access parking. I don't know if you are where. So I'm just telling you. There's so many
[1:23:35] creative things. >> Well, I did get a text from the best airport director in
[1:23:37] the world this morning that he would be listening. So, Mark, I'm sure you're taking note.
[1:23:42] >> Okay. And I want to say to Glenn, I don't know if you're having any plans for
[1:23:48] retirement. Every time I hear you speak has said I don't know where we're going with
[1:23:52] this, but no retirement for Glenn. All right, Mark. All Let me continue with. The
[1:24:01] details. I like you can tell me if I'm just because I'm getting to my 4th year on this
[1:24:08] body or whatever, maybe I'm seen. Things are hearing things. But for me, it's the
[1:24:12] first time I'm seen any reference to the foreign trade zone. And in the report since
[1:24:19] I've been here, it might have been discussed previously. But I like what I see and what we
[1:24:24] are hearing. So I want it to give you kudos for I can talk tariff to my cities and value
[1:24:32] of 5th. big 3, whatever. You more on the sending off the resources that we have at the
[1:24:40] port because he'd never Sitting as a mayor. A commissioner locally. Those
[1:24:47] discussions will ever made no reports from anyone about the value of the ports, airports,
[1:24:54] seaports Putin in general. It was good to have the one-year budget review that bring
[1:25:00] forward all of this discussion. So I can say it's very good. Let's talk about
[1:25:05] rideshare. And how you will use that. And the value. You can. You have fix rates to
[1:25:14] help. You're talking about trying to attract tell folks not to come. To the airport
[1:25:23] there alternatives to come into the airport, but they're looking want to know it. Would
[1:25:27] it be fixed rate because we have had those discussion in the chamber meeting because we
[1:25:33] are hearing from the tax is not the rideshare as much but the taxes. Would that be flat
[1:25:38] rate could be a consideration. You know what the cost is going to be from the airport.
[1:25:43] Miami airport. Fort Lauderdale or to Palm Beach. >> So I think discussion not
[1:25:53] for me exactly how the the airport structures, but I know that in our tariff it does
[1:25:57] have a flat fee for for the ride share. On a on a per use. They says only for rideshares.
[1:26:05] So that flat fee is there. But in terms of the rates that those rideshares then offer to
[1:26:13] various writers where they're going to or from I know that varies given a of variables
[1:26:20] and factors. So just peak travel time traffic considerations and the toll
[1:26:24] rose and need to be going on. So I'm not sure that that that's something that we can
[1:26:30] influence, but but happy to follow up with a discussion of this curious because we're
[1:26:34] trying to be creative here. I-5 park. >> In Palm Beach know what
[1:26:38] it's going to cost to in that accident here. And it's a flat rate and that reduces the
[1:26:44] traffic at your airport. I don't know. It's just another way of looking at it because I
[1:26:49] know a park and hotels in Miami when I drive them. Okay. Let's talk about Litigation at
[1:26:58] the port. And colleagues. I don't know this us. What is that? Is it something we can
[1:27:06] discuss? Environmental? >> So there there's some litigation efforts that are in
[1:27:17] place related to the port Everglades, deepening and widening project. We're
[1:27:20] officially the Port Everglades, navigation improvements project. These
[1:27:23] date back more than 10 years and are in various states of of stay or or activity.
[1:27:35] >> I >> think the senator was potentially referring to
[1:27:37] potential litigation should we start to move forward again with the project which, you
[1:27:42] know, I think is something that our team water has him continues doing until long
[1:27:46] after we're all dead. For for our team to brainstorm and, you know, try play out. All
[1:27:56] those scenarios is a is a tough task. But we you know, we've got some of the the path
[1:27:59] forward with the various partners that take some of that into consideration. But
[1:28:04] until there is litigation, it's it's it's tough to know exactly the right path. But we
[1:28:11] have and overarching strategy that we think is serving us well, thus far.
[1:28:15] >> Let's talk about your your reserves and what is in the bank and the cash flow and all
[1:28:22] that good stuff. How do reflect interest earned in your budget so we can see how
[1:28:30] do we spend? It was authorized to. I'll decide flow in the budget and what programs are
[1:28:36] funded from interest. Only. >> So we do budget a small amount of interest earnings
[1:28:46] and then actual interest earnings come in and then they all into the general the fund,
[1:28:51] the general fund of the port we're spending unless they're restricted for some reason.
[1:28:59] >> by policy and how do we talk about it and see whether or not the 20 year-old policy
[1:29:06] might the adjusted to reflect what's happening today. How do we have those discussions?
[1:29:14] >> So we do our investment in accordance with the county's investment policy through the
[1:29:17] Finance and Administrative Services Department who who manages our Treasury
[1:29:20] operations. >> So when do we hear about it do what it is? We're new. I'm
[1:29:27] new here. I'd like to know what are some of the projects that are funded from interest
[1:29:34] only? >> I will just say commissioner, that our a R
[1:29:37] revenues, if you will, from interest earned is far outweighed by our debt service
[1:29:42] payments that we have on an annual basis as well. But all that goes into, you know, the
[1:29:47] the calculation for for how we're going to create a different light items in the
[1:29:51] budget that's been proposed. But I don't know if we need to defer to fast the for future
[1:29:56] discussion or >> don't think we are marking them for anything specific. It
[1:30:01] just. >> Offsets port revenues that would would pay to fund our
[1:30:07] operations. >> Well, maybe that should be a discussion.
[1:30:15] >> colleagues >> because I think we need to understand those funds are
[1:30:17] being used. We always talking about impact of the port on there. For the community,
[1:30:25] right? We use roadways. We do other things and then we have the foreign trade zones and we
[1:30:30] have those small businesses that we're that rain. Maybe some of those. Once can go to
[1:30:36] and some of those projects. But if there's no discussion, we don't know what week we can
[1:30:39] move to help for small businesses and the foreign trade zones.
[1:30:49] >> Well, I know that we have dialogue and partner with our colleagues over yes PD on some
[1:30:52] of their initiatives throughout the community. But happy to continue to have
[1:30:57] where and when appropriate. Yeah. >> That's my comments for
[1:31:04] Mister Mayor and the conflict. >> You know, I would support your item the interest goes to
[1:31:10] the mayor's account. And so we could spend that on food. giving went on in last
[1:31:14] official border only. I based on that, I think we're done. Thank you so much. enjoy
[1:31:24] lunch. Thank you all for your support. Created. This meeting is adjourned. No, it's not
[1:31:31] joke. Do you want to just come in and take it over so we can go. don't think it's bad. Was
[1:31:44] Lunch is supposed to be brought in within about 5 minutes. We have a tourist
[1:31:49] lunch for you. Yeah, it's a fly by night lunch goes in and goes Steve. But those hoping
[1:32:06] in November with what the motion that one should make is that the that we should keep
[1:32:11] the mayor and additional one-year term. But it's wonder that are we should keep the
[1:32:17] terms as it for additional because the outstanding performance.
[1:37:46] OK, let's start guys. Man, you guys for with that. We're starting. Thank
[1:38:03] you for the presentation. Stacey, I guess you're done. Does anyone have any
[1:38:08] questions? No question who's mayor? Thank you. >> We are going to give Janet
[1:38:15] Lions from our budget office senior budget analyst on. >> We'll go over. The initial
[1:38:18] slides in the overview of 2 are still a note of states you are asked to do that. She's
[1:38:26] going to do that. She's going to tag team and she's got slides as well. Thank you. By
[1:38:28] the way, before you start to see no lunches coming in, we'll.
[1:38:31] >> But it gets here. Thank you Jeff, as you can you talk, Jenna? Pesky talk.
[1:38:43] >> All right. Stacey slides are for some sorry. I flipped it and then They will go to
[1:38:45] Jenna. I have a skewed talk so fast. Let's go. So first of all, let me thank you for
[1:38:50] coming to last week Walking Ship Summit, Merriman a lot to the people in the I'm I'm not
[1:38:56] it I don't usually, you know, give Tillis Koppel. You want I just wanted to let you know
[1:39:03] that meant a lot to the people in the partnership summit who don't often get to know act
[1:39:08] with no charge, no charge some great photographs of you. If you're self wants them for
[1:39:11] your newsletter. >> Thank you. I didn't know I had a newsletter, but both
[1:39:13] whatever you have for Geller's newsletter, >> so the slide as usual as
[1:39:22] hotel occupancy as you can see, mostly it follows the pattern. It always as we head
[1:39:27] up big bump in the summer time this year from May through July because of World Cup and
[1:39:35] I P w it really helped with the summer, which, as you know, is a slower traffic.
[1:39:44] Again, we expect that next year without these major events, which are one time
[1:39:49] nonrecurring. We'll go back to a more traditional year graph. But for now, we're going to
[1:39:54] take what we got. Same with the with hotel average daily rate. You know, we've been
[1:40:00] doing this for a long time. The graphs pretty much follow the same kind of movement
[1:40:05] every single year where we peak in the winter time and we get slower and the summer with
[1:40:10] September being our slowest year and then we start to pick up again. It's the same for
[1:40:14] this year. But as you can see, we've had we had against those summer bumps. We had a there
[1:40:20] was a really harsh winter up north, which we love of the harsher, the better and
[1:40:27] because of that, we had good bump in the winter time again next these a forecast for next
[1:40:33] year. But we don't expect the same kind a bump and then you'll see with them the rev
[1:40:37] par the same kind of graph. Again, it goes the same way year after year month after
[1:40:43] month with those bumps coming. Thanks to these major events which are one time and
[1:40:48] non-recurring and that will lead to next year being a bit more problematic than this
[1:40:59] year has In we are seeing again, more economic uncertainty. There's talk in
[1:41:04] the stock market about an AI bubble much like we have the dot com bubble real estate
[1:41:08] bubbles. So next year is forecast. But we are forecasting for next year. A
[1:41:15] more traditional tdt revenue collection. Then we have this year where we expect
[1:41:20] 134 million dollars in tdt collections which is absolute blowout record for us. Thank
[1:41:26] you, Stacey. And now we'll switch over to Jenna will continue. Thank you. We'll
[1:41:33] keep going. Thank you. they're not happen Jenna, thank you. >> I got 9 and a half months
[1:41:42] left. Don't get me in trouble and 9 and a half months left. Lyons.
[1:41:48] >> Good morning. Mayor Vice Mayor Commissioners. My name is Jenna Lyons and I'm a
[1:41:50] senior analyst with the budget office. And I'm going to be going over the Fy 27
[1:41:53] recommended budget for the tourist development tax program. The the county
[1:41:56] currently. Levees, all 6 pennies that are eligible under state law with the first
[1:42:06] 2 pennies being levied in 1980, in the most recent penny being married in 2018. This
[1:42:11] graph we'll show you. The 2 were summoned tax revenues going back to fiscal 8 due to
[1:42:15] the Great Recession. We saw a 17% decline in revenues for fiscal year 2008 to 2009. It
[1:42:21] took us 3 years to rebound. And in fiscal year 2012, we exceeded pre-recession levels
[1:42:27] of tdt. After that, the revenues incrementally increased up until fiscal year
[1:42:32] 2018. Are we seeing more significant increased primarily due to the 6 penny
[1:42:34] being levied? Due to the COVID-19 pandemic. We did see a 27% decline in revenues. We
[1:42:42] were able to rebound and in late fiscal year. 21 through fiscal year. 23, we saw record
[1:42:45] levels ATT revenues. Through fiscal year. 25 the revenue stabilized and in fy. 26, we
[1:42:53] are seeing higher revenues at approximately 135 million dollars. This is primarily due
[1:42:57] to the harsher winter conditions in the northeast as well as those one-time events
[1:43:01] such as IP W FIFA, NCAA college football. For Fy 27 recommended. We are projecting
[1:43:08] to go back to those stabilize levels at 126 million dollars. In addition to the tdt
[1:43:15] revenues, we also generate revenues at the operations of the convention center. We also
[1:43:19] other revenue such as interest We have the line of credit, which is the funding mechanism
[1:43:23] for the arena agreement. And in fiscal year 27, we're budgeting. 94.9 million
[1:43:30] dollars and fund balance, which primarily supports reserves and one-time capital
[1:43:32] items. The slide goes into our operating expenditures. We have funding allocated for the
[1:43:40] city staff and operating as well as the marketing advertising and promotions
[1:43:44] budget. The fiscal year adopted fiscal year, 26 adopted budget did include one
[1:43:49] time supplements for these one-time events. There is the 800,000 annual allocation for
[1:43:52] cultural support. The next 3 line shows the operating expenses at the convention
[1:43:59] center. Again, there were some one-time expenditures and 5.26. And then we have the
[1:44:04] 15 million dollar annual leave for the year operating component of the arena
[1:44:08] agreement down below. We have our debt service cost as well as our reserves. We have the
[1:44:14] 29.1 million dollars annually until 2051 for the convention Center expansion project as
[1:44:19] well as it's required reserve. We also have reserves for CBD as well as convention center,
[1:44:26] which equate to approximately 4 months of their operations as well as they teach or is or
[1:44:30] 4 revenue fluctuation to insulate us for possible economic shocks. Moving on to
[1:44:37] the capital expenditures. We have some funding allocated for the beach projects, which
[1:44:40] I will go into more detail on a later slide. There's also annual allocations for meaning
[1:44:45] to the convention center as well as their network licensing. There is the
[1:44:49] 1 million annually for the cultural artistic Sicily's capital to prep program, which
[1:44:53] was formerly known as the Tdt Challenge. Grant. There's the 1 million dollars for the
[1:44:58] Performing Arts center improvements. The capital side of the arena agreement. We
[1:45:03] have waterproofing scheduled at the West Building in 27 and the East building enough by
[1:45:07] 30. And then we have an additional 15.5 million dollars and peco funding for
[1:45:12] the Convention Center Parking Garage Project which is still in its planning and design
[1:45:17] phase. And we do anticipate needing additional bond financing to fully fund the
[1:45:20] project. The remaining projects on the slide were previously funded in prior
[1:45:25] years and are still ongoing. Moving on to the beach capital program, which primarily
[1:45:32] supported by an annual 7.4 million dollar transer up tourist taxes. There's also
[1:45:36] interest earnings as well as fund balance and in the out years of fiscal year 30 31, we
[1:45:42] do have budgeted the expected contributions from the cities of Dania Beach, Hollywood and
[1:45:47] Hollandale for their contribution towards the Port Everglades Inlet Management
[1:45:49] plan also known as the Sand Bypass Project. This slide shows the appropriations for
[1:45:57] beach capital program in the out years. We do have funding allocated for the beach
[1:46:00] hotspot Project which provides funding for smaller scale or nourishment events. This
[1:46:04] project currently has a balance of 10.3 million dollars available for these
[1:46:09] projects. There is an annual $50,000 allocation for both the sand dune restoration as
[1:46:14] well as the artificial reef program. And there funding allocated for the part of are
[1:46:19] they my management project, which is also called the Sand Bypass Project for a future
[1:46:22] project components, including Movil the Mitigation Reef and the free future dredging
[1:46:27] event. This slide goes into some of our past beach renourishment projects with
[1:46:33] the most recent segment to project costing 98 million dollars. And the most recent
[1:46:37] segment, 3 project costing 65.9 million dollars. As you can see, these projects have
[1:46:43] increased in CA significantly. And the most recent years. Which moves on to our
[1:46:47] challenges and needs for the tdt funding. As we saw in the previous slides, our revenues
[1:46:53] have been pretty stable with the exception of fiscal year 26. And we do Phi 27 to return
[1:46:58] to destabilize levels. But we still have cost to cover, including the annual debt
[1:47:02] service costs for the convention center expansion, which will pay until 2051. And
[1:47:06] with the expansion we do has to meet increased operating costs as well as future
[1:47:12] capital improvements, such as the parking garage project and any additional associate
[1:47:17] potential debt obligations that we will need to fully fund these projects. And as I
[1:47:19] mentioned in the previous side, the beach nourishment projects have seen significant
[1:47:23] cost increases. In an effort to continue to bring tourists to Mark County. We continue to
[1:47:29] budget for the marketing advertising and promotions in fiscal year 19. We spent 18.6
[1:47:36] million dollars and then through the pandemic, we implemented cost-saving
[1:47:39] measures. Fy 23 through. 25, we exceeded our pre-pandemic levels of spending. The Fy 26
[1:47:45] budget did include 4.9 million dollars of one-time supplements for those one-time
[1:47:50] events and the Fy 27 recommended budget of 23.4 million dollars is in
[1:47:53] alignment with our projection to stabilize. And that concludes my presentation. I
[1:47:58] will turn it back over to Monica Cipro. Thank you, Jenna.
[1:48:04] >> So that concludes the presentation on the tourist development Tax Dollar
[1:48:08] program. So if you guys have questions were happy to done next.
[1:48:12] >> No, I'm choking. We're gonna go around. The room will start again with Mr. Rogers,
[1:48:16] just remember, we have 4 presentations. I'm not the one that left note. Usually go
[1:48:23] trust me. I get because we all know it's gather. >> Thank OK, I'm I'm going to
[1:48:30] take us to Page 15. Talk about the beach, captain appropriations and the
[1:48:39] Nourishing. And can you explain to me? >> When
[1:48:43] >> you speak about artificial reef program. All right. I am. Need understanding when you
[1:48:51] talk about beach hot spot projects trying to understand what it is because right now
[1:48:57] I'm seeing a lot of artificial think plants. Around the news and I will. I'm wondering what
[1:49:04] are we doing in who approves the changes if you're moving from green and grass all that
[1:49:12] helped this stuff to synthetic but and for a breeze who is making those decisions for the
[1:49:19] county. So thank you, commissioners. So. >> For the beach program,
[1:49:26] there's no synthetic materials on the beach side, but gonna let Dr do answer the questions
[1:49:33] on this on this portion of the product project. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for
[1:49:39] the question, commissioner. So and in responding to county administrator and clarifying
[1:49:44] the artificial reef investments or the synthetic. >> think there's a question on
[1:49:51] both of those things. So if you want to just talk about the both the artificial reef
[1:49:56] program and then the synthetic sound on then to do Thank you. And I and my response would
[1:50:01] also relate, I think a bit to some of what commissioner for raised earlier about the
[1:50:06] academic partnerships and investments that can take place with coral. So there are
[1:50:10] a number of opportunities to use artificial we should hard substrate like line boulders
[1:50:20] as a substrate for coral out plantings. So if the county is able to partner with academic
[1:50:27] institutions are private institutions to help with those investments to
[1:50:33] accelerate nursery or clipping out plantings. That would be part of in artificial reef
[1:50:36] investment where the county could help with that by providing some seed money. We
[1:50:43] also had opportunities to use other materials that may not be a lime rock, but other
[1:50:50] constructed materials that have rough surfaces and also add to recruitment
[1:50:57] opportunities for coral. So it's about establishing a substrate. We're corals can
[1:51:04] recruit. And so those are the types of project opportunities that we're trying to
[1:51:08] facilitate with those funds that would be outside of required regulatory
[1:51:15] mitigation. So supplemental investments where we can partner. On the question
[1:51:19] relating to artificial materials. We do know that there has been legislation has
[1:51:30] basically it required that local governments do aid or allow for the use of
[1:51:35] artificial, say turf in lieu of a natural landscaping we while we can't dictate
[1:51:47] necessarily the products that are used in those landscape projects, if it's not, you
[1:51:51] know, local could be our own local government. We are doing and working on materials that
[1:51:57] will aid outreach about the benefits of utilizing a non artificial substrate. And we
[1:52:03] would have concerns about the lack of habitat, the additional heat, the micro
[1:52:08] plastics that can all be associated with that type of product and will be working
[1:52:13] aggressively on outreach materials to help educate when those decisions are being
[1:52:16] made. MS. And continue. >> I am still concerned that. Yes, the state mandates or
[1:52:31] made it possible for us to use these synthetic. That's but we on bunny and was all about
[1:52:40] open-space green space and all of that. And folks invested and if they're changing the
[1:52:47] public gave the money for specific use and now we're changing it and always sees
[1:52:54] these artificial They look beautiful until I touch them. All right. And then you have
[1:52:59] all of this artist plant and temperatures that we're not accustomed to. So what am I
[1:53:08] reading when I go outside to walk and want to think and breathing good stuff. But I'm
[1:53:14] breathing in these synthetic plants and terms all around our communities. And it's
[1:53:19] because of economics. We're giving away all everything. I'm not thinking about her
[1:53:27] health. So that was a coming from me our community talking who gave that authority some
[1:53:31] here in the the state government how did the respond considering that we had
[1:53:38] invested millions of dollars into hope and speaks ring speaks and all of that. Are we
[1:53:44] making sure that we're giving what we? For tax dollars provided tools, funding and a
[1:53:51] lot of people took advantage of those funding. And I would hope that they wouldn't be one
[1:53:57] of those that are switching the artificial turf. So if I may Dr, I do also so our our
[1:54:09] county investments are not being utilized in that fashion. We're so so that just
[1:54:13] to share with you and the board I think we're the question is is where the state
[1:54:18] maybe has mandated or preempted our ability to regulate uncertain
[1:54:25] circumstances. And so if I'm not mistaken, Dr, how do you can maybe expand a little bit
[1:54:33] about? >> Our our role implementing state mandates and how we
[1:54:37] evaluate different projects that come to us for permitting. And when they're
[1:54:43] using synthetics. >> Thank Yeah, I would. I would acknowledge that when a
[1:54:51] project comes in for particular license and we perform an environmental
[1:54:57] review. We would. Be obligated. To accept. And artificial substrate. If that
[1:55:09] was part of what was being put forward so long as the project was still meeting, say its
[1:55:16] surface water management requirements. We wouldn't be able to dictate how the
[1:55:24] applicant landscapes necessarily given that the state requires that
[1:55:31] we allow artificial turf. But we are working on extensive materials that will continue
[1:55:44] to communicate the limitations that a result of utilizing artificial substrates as
[1:55:54] opposed to natural plants. We have a very prominent nature skate, Broward program and all
[1:56:00] of the benefits that come from water management, heat reduction, habitat creation by
[1:56:06] not making those transitions plus this. I know that the additional concerns about
[1:56:11] microplastics but if a, if applicant comes in with the project and they're able to
[1:56:15] meet these other requirements and they're still meeting say you can get re canopy
[1:56:19] requirements in a community if they so choose to use an artificial product, we
[1:56:24] wouldn't be able to prohibit that.
[1:56:39] We're every one of those request. So we and look to see whether or not tax dollars was
[1:56:47] paid for green and open space. And if that can be used say this probe, property does not
[1:56:55] qualify because we had invested in green space and it was synthetic green looking
[1:57:02] green. It was real life plants that we can preach fresh air. I'm just saying at least those
[1:57:06] coming should be made on those application. >> Thank you, Do you may want
[1:57:14] to stay and cases? Are there questions that are Davis? >> I I I certainly see a lot
[1:57:24] of projects. at the guards to be challenged, it's great. My question is, what else? I'll
[1:57:34] be doing. And on the missed the county municipalities, are there any? Capital projects
[1:57:40] you're working with cities know that any? >> That would be Jennifer.
[1:57:47] Sorry. think you're looking this way. I want to make as it relates to beach. no, I'm not
[1:57:50] asking about. talking about. My pal tourism, the tax dollars, the tourism
[1:57:58] development tax. So the question is. What else are we doing? And on the county, you
[1:58:03] have. Capital projects. The beach. Is there anything else that you're working
[1:58:09] municipality? He's They featured in any part your. Spending. And if so, what I
[1:58:21] what are the projects? you doing anything them available projects? That cities can?
[1:58:29] Participate in. >> Talking about capital projects, Commissioner.
[1:58:33] >> I could do. And the beach more than a beach, right? So my question is, what else can
[1:58:37] you do? So Right to want to treat one, to speak into the record site. Good morning
[1:58:50] commissioners. So the Tourist Development Act >> says are used for multitude
[1:58:55] of capital projects. And so we do have the convention center maintenance projects. They are
[1:59:00] to BT funded. We also have a tourist development challenge Grant where the is an
[1:59:09] opportunity for entities to apply for some funding. Primarily the majority of them
[1:59:13] that come to the board through an agenda item. Our partnerships with cities
[1:59:17] within the county. We would have to provide you an follow up on which ones are currently
[1:59:24] in >> And like, what? What have they been in the past? What?
[1:59:33] You're giving store so so that so this has been for a number of years and the created
[1:59:38] capital Challenge. Grant. In the past. There's been a couple grants get given to. I
[1:59:49] know the Museum of Discovery Science as well as Mayor Maher.
[1:59:52] >> The the the arts, the cultural facility out in Miramar, Lauderhill of forming
[2:00:01] Arts Center was also a recipient of that. And which one? Yeah, that's right. of
[2:00:09] the performing Arts center also as a recent recipient, believe with the park
[2:00:14] renovation that they did there. So they they it's an annual process that people
[2:00:21] different. Entities can comment apply for these challenge. Grants. The board
[2:00:25] has historically funded that I believe at a million dollars a year. Is that correct? Okay.
[2:00:30] And And so that's just a single process when when that challenge grant process
[2:00:37] annually, Coleman AIDS, those recommendations come to the I believe is Jennifer just
[2:00:45] stated to the county commission an agenda item that you guys approve and that
[2:00:50] discussion because apologize, I've got a migraine sell on struggling through today.
[2:00:57] Yeah, sure. Thanks. >> So so if I could get some more information on. The
[2:01:07] grants, where they been dispersed throughout the county? ongoing projects is
[2:01:12] just a one time. That's correct. >> Their one-time grants. a
[2:01:22] matching provision that is required for those grants and it's for capital
[2:01:26] infrastructure. Like improvements to a facility typically so we can provide
[2:01:31] another update. Absolutely. To the book. Yeah. >> Because there are some and
[2:01:35] maybe there's opportunities. Has anybody may have matching. You know, I just I just think
[2:01:42] they should be up out reach. To the rest of the county. Let's How the utilization of
[2:01:50] these dollars can be utilized for them. How it reaches them. And I education in that
[2:01:59] regard, it's just not happening. And, you know, if you have a pass on that feel
[2:02:05] them. A lot of folks that. The tourist not invited in there out of town. I think the nice
[2:02:13] bit Opportunity given to municipalities to participate. What to know more about. What
[2:02:23] is happening in terms of these. toys. That How the tortoise can actually. Be
[2:02:31] included. As part of what they have to offer. Maybe maybe that and I know. example, West
[2:02:42] Park, they may not have a It may be getting the facility. But they have some of the
[2:02:46] best. chicken with Jeff Tally. You know, I just think it just we need to break things now.
[2:02:57] So that people can feel part of the process. When we at that icing. About tourists
[2:03:03] coming here. That they know the city's need to know. And there residents need to know
[2:03:09] that include. And they don't feel that is just all about. The beaches. And I'm sure that
[2:03:16] if you peaches even included, feels included. speak about the beach. It's generally 4
[2:03:23] loaded. But even locally local to us, people from. Maybe I don't know out West, would
[2:03:32] like to know what is happening in the north of the county. So I just think we need to do a
[2:03:39] better job. need to be educated on it. And clearly I'm not. Much less. The
[2:03:45] residents I know in my district and the not educated either. I just think we need
[2:03:51] to a better job making sure they feel. That they're neck of the woods is being
[2:03:56] promoted. 2 tourists as well. Anderson. >> We 31 Cities. Commissioner,
[2:04:06] I would invite you to to talk to your of your constituents. We need your help with this.
[2:04:11] We are a medium-sized agency and we cannot be everywhere all the time. But we would
[2:04:17] invite your constituents who have businesses to contact us at visit Lauderdale to go on
[2:04:22] our website. There is a partner portal if they can sign up for and they can put
[2:04:27] all the information directly onto the website, its restaurants, for example,
[2:04:30] where businesses they can do this. We have a partnership specialist who can reach out
[2:04:37] to them. Give us a list will be happy to go out there. We have an amazing social media
[2:04:42] team. They go to all 4 corners of Broward County and everything in between to make
[2:04:46] sure that your districts, your your your businesses or given the proper amount of love. We
[2:04:51] can't be everywhere. All the time. And we do have a social media calendar which is month,
[2:04:56] which is planned out months in advance. But we can certainly slot any one of these
[2:05:01] businesses in. that you that that either that they contact us or you contact us, we need
[2:05:08] your help with this part of what we would. You know, your news letters would be great
[2:05:12] for us to get the word out about just going to the website to your business isn't
[2:05:15] talking about the partner portal. We had a great partnership summit last
[2:05:20] Wednesday with 3 injured 50 tourism professionals in the room from everywhere. And Brad
[2:05:24] County to talk to them about how you become involved with isn't Lauderdale and how the
[2:05:29] tdt dollars that we spend can be utilized all around the county.
[2:05:36] >> Thank you. Appreciate that. And I certainly beginning with you are Sandy Kevin and know
[2:05:42] that because, you know, I would like to be able to more and help businesses outside
[2:05:47] of. Just a city, a photo that downtown area. Get more involved and this. It is out
[2:05:55] there. And it shouldn't be just up to them to bees, trying to put money aside to
[2:06:01] promote their city's We have the can is a shun that is there to do that. So that
[2:06:06] folks can feel included. Maturity. >> Just a couple comments. If
[2:06:17] I can. First of this Lions very well done. I love what our budget department does by
[2:06:28] bringing in some of the more junior people that works with the different agencies because
[2:06:30] I think it's great leadership technique. And I think you did a fantastic job and I just
[2:06:35] want to thank you for your presentation. Can you it up to Page 9? think it's page 9. Is
[2:06:44] that? Yeah, I was very interested in that one. Cause I've been using a lot I so I
[2:06:49] I'd the visit lauderdale's mission and I wanted to see what it talks about as far as
[2:06:55] promoting our region. You know, and raising tourist dollars. And I just cut this
[2:07:01] chart in half and I kind of made made a vertical line right around 2016, which is
[2:07:05] when I started, which is now 10 years. There's 10 years before it in 10 years after.
[2:07:14] And I think when you when you look at this chart, I I think that people can on. Can have
[2:07:20] different ideas of how they want to do for certain things with raising tourist dollars
[2:07:23] in our area. But we've gone to a new level and a new base of what we have moving forward. I
[2:07:29] mean, the first 10 years before I was here, we were between, you know, 40
[2:07:37] 50 million dollars every year as far as revenue generation from the tdt. The last 10
[2:07:42] years I've been here, we've almost tripled and we're now one. 35 this year in in
[2:07:48] revenues that are coming in that are used these dollars that are used to fund all
[2:07:52] these projects, no matter how you like them or where you want them are beach
[2:07:57] renourishment or the penny for the arena operating center. I think that some of the ideas
[2:08:03] that we've had now with the tdt. Have been really good. I remember when I served on the
[2:08:09] board the year that I was mayor they they rolled out a lot of influencer marketing,
[2:08:12] which I think was key because that's all everyone doing right now. And if you look at
[2:08:18] our base from 23 on, we're now at 125 million dollars base. I don't think we're going to get
[2:08:23] to one. 35 next year. We I'm sure that Stacey, you're probably and are promising a
[2:08:32] new over deliver. A, though I will say you're gonna have a ton of headwinds because of
[2:08:34] what we had this year has not next year. And I just read something that just came out
[2:08:38] of a. Some of the investment houses in New York. They're preparing their tourism
[2:08:46] agencies and their winter companies because they're thinking that this year may be
[2:08:50] one of the biggest Nino years. They have and it's going to be warm all over the country,
[2:08:55] which I know is not as good for us. So I think that the amount of revenue that is
[2:09:00] coming in now is something that I hope I won't be here in 10 years. But I hope when they
[2:09:05] show this year, 10 years from now that that first 10 years, our new 125 Million Dollar
[2:09:11] Base is now doubled I guess your successor in 9 and a half months will be charged with
[2:09:18] going from one. 25 1, 30 million to over 200 Million. And it'll be an
[2:09:24] interesting one to look back on in a few years to see if they're successful. Is that so
[2:09:27] I think that's important. I think that the the we you asked us as a board and we
[2:09:40] asked you as tdt agency to let's all put our collective best foot forward when we had
[2:09:45] that association of all the convention planners that came a few months ago that we did
[2:09:50] the I guess I P w I was there a couple times. What a home run. What a what a. But show
[2:10:00] off of our destination what I particularly liked is the region that they had with all
[2:10:07] the different municipalities were allowed to partner up. I saw Pompano Beach was there
[2:10:13] and across different areas that they were allowed to come in and use that that for him
[2:10:18] to market their own area. So I thought that was very cool. I continue to. Support what
[2:10:28] you're doing with sports tourism and the more and the marketing that you're doing
[2:10:31] around the different sporting events I mean, I love I love what visit Lauderdale is doing
[2:10:40] with Pegasus a lot of the different things we have here. I'm just hopeful that we can
[2:10:46] continue on this trajectory because these dollars are funding a lot of important
[2:10:53] resiliency projects. And I hope that when you're looking for the day and night and a
[2:10:58] half months from when we have a new leadership, Monica, you're showing in this type of
[2:11:02] chart and I won't be the one expecting you because I won't be here, but I'm hoping that
[2:11:06] the people that are here years from now are saying UN from that 60 million Dollar base,
[2:11:12] the one 20 million dollars base. And now let's go to the next space up there. Those are
[2:11:15] my comments. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, series of questions first on the sand.
[2:11:23] Bypass that. So can't Jennifer had had discussed. No, Jenna, Jenna, can't read for Pearce R
[2:11:31] e. Dice can you give us an update in that? My understanding is that they may
[2:11:39] be stalled. The sand bypass may be stalled by recent litigation.
[2:11:42] >> That will Dr Thank you for the question. Senator Geller. >> do know that, you know,
[2:11:55] there is filing of litigation we had received a communication regarding the
[2:12:01] progress of work which was put on hold and teams have been and tight coordination and
[2:12:10] where optimistic that there. There's an appetite for returning to non dredge work
[2:12:19] and where we're quite hopeful that will still see completion of the project in the 2027
[2:12:26] time frame, which is still consistent with what our original time frame was. And
[2:12:30] we're working close coordination with all parties to to arrive at that that
[2:12:35] seemed to be moving forward. >> Excellent commissioner for represents that entire area
[2:12:41] that would be affected. But I used to represent that entire area in the Senate. And I
[2:12:47] still have feeling storage, Hallandale Hollywood, Dania Beach hoping that this can be
[2:12:51] move forward expeditiously. Secondly, the and this STA Stacey. I believe that I had
[2:13:00] seen the last 2 days that there is discussion of downturn in our here in
[2:13:09] Florida, from our visitors from Europe and Canada, as we have managed to offend
[2:13:14] virtually the entire world with our actions, not we, Florida, we the United States
[2:13:23] through our beloved with managed with and every country in the world. do you. Are you
[2:13:31] anticipating? I know you can give us anything definitive, but to what extent are you
[2:13:36] anticipating a reduction in or foreign visitors? >> Thank you, Senator. I will
[2:13:42] tell you that visit Florida, the for the entire state just reported this week that for
[2:13:47] the second In both quarters of calendar year 2026. Florida tourism has declined. Most of
[2:13:59] the stuff. But pundits and experts will tell you that's because international visitors
[2:14:02] have have declined. We are fortunate in that most of visitation is domestic we have
[2:14:12] fewer Canadian visitors, then other destinations do. But when you try use international
[2:14:19] travelers stay longer and spend more money. And you have to focus more on the domestic
[2:14:25] traveler, you have to basically exponentially increase the number just to
[2:14:29] get just to stay. Even that's that is the quandary. We find ourselves And I will tell
[2:14:33] commissioner you, Dan, that for I P W. We spend 6 figures on that space on the floor. We
[2:14:41] charge our partners about $1500, including the cities. That is something that tdt
[2:14:46] dollars are being used for. to assist cities other than Fort Lauderdale, where 90% of the
[2:14:52] tdt is generated. But that is something that we do for our partners, including city, says
[2:15:00] charge them a minimum, a minimal amount of money because they will be able to
[2:15:01] do it on their own. It's not that. Both the subject. I'm sorry. He is misbehaving all
[2:15:19] right. last question I had this two-part the tdt first. It's a little bit of a
[2:15:29] counterpoint to what Commissioner Davis was discussing. I want to make
[2:15:33] sure that our tax or tdt tax dollars. Are really going towards generating more
[2:15:40] overall tourism and that you're directing them to where they they need to be supposed.
[2:15:45] I would be very we worry about giving. Well, there's 31 cities in Broward. So we have
[2:15:52] to divide whatever giving 31 ways that would give Lazy Lake a lot of money that they don't
[2:15:57] need. But 31 or 32 people. that. so I do want to make sure that we're spending the
[2:16:11] tdt tax dollars appropriately for the tourism that their design, which leads to my left
[2:16:20] question it on the Executive Committee, Legislative Committee and others of
[2:16:23] Florida Association of counties. There effort there to broaden to urge the
[2:16:29] Legislature to broaden the use of tdt tax dollars to permit it to be used for things like
[2:16:38] affordable housing, roads, cetera. I have been opposing MS because having you and I
[2:16:45] have both served in the Legislature. I know that if we broaden that. For other areas,
[2:16:56] I believe that the people who pushed for the creation of the tdt, the hoteliers restaurant
[2:17:03] tours, etc. If they it going other places, I think that they're going to ask 2 well.
[2:17:11] But have the tdt repealed basically I would like your opinion. So to guide me cause
[2:17:17] I am and all of these committees that F a C. Do you have an opinion on whether we
[2:17:22] should be keeping the tdt focused on the way it is now or whether or not it should be
[2:17:32] expanded. The argument being Orlando with leading the charge on this that you need
[2:17:37] the affordable housing for the workers need the roads take to get to the. Places it's after
[2:17:44] you have an opinion. >> I got up on everything Center and know first of all,
[2:17:57] >> I think I think the only conservative thing about me is how how we spend tdt dollars.
[2:18:01] >> We are extremely conservative in how we spend the money and it would
[2:18:03] encourage you to continue that way. Well, you know, after 30 years in public service, I'm
[2:18:08] not we're not going to jeopardize anybody who Visit Lauderdale or anybody on this
[2:18:14] board or anybody in administration with misuse or unwise spending of tdt. We go
[2:18:19] through a thorough vetting process. If there's a Lauderdale which concludes an
[2:18:22] application and then an independent vetting internally of separate apart from the
[2:18:27] application because quite frankly, applicants put a lot of things in their
[2:18:29] applications that. For lack of a better word pad them nicely. So we do an internal vetting.
[2:18:37] Sometimes the tdc. We'll review it if it's not in the budget of it is in the budget.
[2:18:42] The tdc reviews, the budget. and we are very judicious in how we spend the money. It is
[2:18:48] not in anybody's interest to get anybody in trouble because of a dollar misspent. So we
[2:18:55] are very cautious about the statute. There are criminal penalties in separate statutes
[2:19:00] for misuse of tdt funds. We're not interested in that and we don't think the board is
[2:19:04] either. Secondly, as it relates to expansion, look, 10% of Brown's residents are
[2:19:09] employed in tourism. Everybody in your district has a job thanks to tourism. That
[2:19:17] economic benefit which doesn't just come from sending a tours to a restaurant that comes
[2:19:23] from having that restaurant employee because he keeps a business unemployed people
[2:19:26] because of tourism. Is critically important to Broward's economic health.
[2:19:33] misdirection, any dilution of that Tdt Hertz communities where tourism is their
[2:19:38] number-one industry. We want I mean, that's not something you would like me to continue to
[2:19:43] oppose the expansion. There are lots of things I'd like you to do. Senator Geller,
[2:19:49] that is but one of many thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Stacey, be real quick.
[2:20:06] >> You were talking. It's come up here from the other commissioners about 31 cities
[2:20:10] and my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong here is that your job, the job of
[2:20:16] your department really is to promote South Florida as a destination. Broward County.
[2:20:20] what we offer. generally speak. >> Yes, okay. Not south
[2:20:27] Florida. Broward County are okay. Right? And so putting so my district is district to
[2:20:32] Coconut Creek saying come to Coconut Creek to me is I'd love people to Deerfield
[2:20:36] Beach, my Do you know part of Pompano or come to Margate? People in Minnesota, Chicago
[2:20:44] up the East Coast. You know, I think coming here in career could be wrong mainly because
[2:20:50] of the weather, right? Number and 2. Other things to do. Will there be water Weatherby
[2:20:59] Everglades or whether it be all the different their arts, though, the Broadway shows? I
[2:21:04] don't see an advantage in listing the name of a city of our 31 cities. When you
[2:21:07] promote. Broward County come to South Florida, you know, I don't see the advantage unless
[2:21:16] something is really attractive in that city. I don't how how city I'm living in Minnesota.
[2:21:24] Freezing in the winter. I'm living in Iowa, Chicago, wherever I an advertisement,
[2:21:30] you know, come to Margate. One of my one of the one of my cities. And so I don't see
[2:21:38] using the name of of. The city's as an enticement, but more of, you know, our
[2:21:46] beaches, you well, Fort Lauderdale has, you know, has the performing arts center,
[2:21:52] Fort Lauderdale, obviously as the beach like. But like many of the cities. But I'd like
[2:21:58] you to just tell me where I'm incorrect or where, you know, you do this all the time. So.
[2:22:03] W what do you feel about that? >> we've done a lot of data. We have a lot of data. We've
[2:22:12] done a tremendous amount of research on why people come here and where they go. When
[2:22:15] they come here, 80% of people come for the beach. We've got a beach cities, all of which
[2:22:20] are marketed and promoted by visit Lauderdale. Every single one of them. There's no
[2:22:23] question that some of them think they don't generate the kind love that they should. We
[2:22:29] would respectfully disagree and we have the journalists, we have the paper to prove it.
[2:22:34] But 80% of people come for the beach. So they come to the beach. They stay if they they
[2:22:40] they sit on the beach for a day the whole day. They get lobster. Ed, what do they do
[2:22:46] when they can't go on the beach day, too? What do they do when it rains, which does
[2:22:51] not often but occasionally. What do they do? Our job is to tell people what there is to
[2:22:59] do. >> That step, OK? So but yes, but I will tell you there the
[2:23:02] best Korean fried chicken and Broward counties at the Cook Uncork, a Coral Springs. We
[2:23:08] will promote the cooking a cork in Coral springs over and over because it's got or the
[2:23:13] best your chicken or the best road team, which is Joy's in Lauderhill, but that promotes
[2:23:16] you're you're promoting it. Yes, talking about when you spend dollars to advertise.
[2:23:23] >> Lauderdale or whatever words you use. >> If spending does to track
[2:23:29] people to the weather and the beaches, correct? >> Primarily because other
[2:23:36] island that promotes themselves from whether that's why people come here like,
[2:23:39] right, like, Oh, I love it. I mean, it all all the same. >> And and as I said, 90% of
[2:23:46] the of the tdt is generated on the beach. So. >> So E. Putting the name of
[2:23:54] one of our cities in there. That's that Lauderdale. That's not Lauderdale. To me is is
[2:24:02] what's the why? Why would you do that? And I'm talking about ones before they get here.
[2:24:07] Once they're here. I love what you're Each city has different things that that offer to
[2:24:10] tourists. But I'm talking about the advertising that get the people to travel here.
[2:24:19] >> Well, the website, which is where we would we would direct many people who are interested
[2:24:21] who have professed interest through the Google Analytics and other analytics they go to
[2:24:26] our website. They'll see things all over the county to do. They are not here in
[2:24:28] Broward County. They are now outside because the other Web site doesn't cost money. Well,
[2:24:38] it well, what we have we have Web site host which costs us money. But again, the partner
[2:24:43] portal helps that because we do get assists for partners. But when there is when news
[2:24:48] when their stories when influencers com, we make it clear to them that if they are
[2:24:53] posting a story or they're posting a real, they have to say where they are, including
[2:24:56] the city. They don't always do that. Journalists often will take pictures and say they are
[2:25:03] in Fort Lauderdale when they're actually in Hollywood all the attention. That's not
[2:25:06] what I'm saying. I don't care about anything. You're talking about something specific just
[2:25:13] confirmed. >> When you spend dollars in other cities and other states
[2:25:15] to promote Broward, I you just basically it promoting come to visit Lauderdale, say Greater
[2:25:23] Fort Lauderdale. When we talk about it with rate of 400, thank you. Don't I sorry or
[2:25:31] you lose it and anything the story. I didn't need that. That. Okay. first of say that
[2:25:41] they a great job there. I think the visit, Florida's the has blossomed anew, really
[2:25:47] done a good job and then inclusive in ways it hadn't done. Thank you for doing
[2:25:52] that. With regard to where the appropriations are going. I can I can support all of the
[2:26:02] capital approach, appropriations I don't know exactly except for We weren't
[2:26:07] sure what this what Everglades Inlet Management plan, but is. Is that the city is at times
[2:26:18] like >> Yeah, it is us and I had a product and then the bypass
[2:26:19] activities that will That's what I thought. I thought that's what was. Just a whole
[2:26:22] another name for it. >> You know, I I know that we got a lawsuit put but I I've
[2:26:32] had the chance look at what you've been doing and the monitoring as one say, you
[2:26:37] guys have been extremely careful. To make sure that you have that. It's all done
[2:26:43] right. And 25 years of trying to make you know, before we do the project to make sure it's
[2:26:47] good being done right? I don't think it's a fair. You know, the biking through a lawsuit
[2:26:54] at you. I want to write, I want to commend the department for doing what you've been
[2:27:02] doing and making sure you had one or 2 times where low came up. And that was good. And
[2:27:08] then you and you responded. Well. I do have one the you know, I on the penny tax, the
[2:27:16] places where are we paying off a couple things. On on where was last page? What a slide.
[2:27:31] last pitch. A little uncertain. showing where. These were going. Maybe 12.
[2:27:46] Keep going. Keep going. But 12, though, that one. next. know. They headed for every
[2:28:01] 11. It was it was at a table. Well, it was showing that in in 28 and there was a we were
[2:28:09] we could paying a couple things off. Some of the pennies. It looked like. And
[2:28:14] so I guess I'm wondering what happens there. Or am I incorrect what I'm reading
[2:28:17] there? >> Commissioner, on on this slide here we have the planned
[2:28:29] five-year program outlook. And so some of the items on here that you may be referring to
[2:28:34] only have one or two-year appropriation. So, for example, on the require debt
[2:28:41] service reserve of the 29.1 million that's there in reserve for the bond
[2:28:47] covenants. And that becomes the last payment of the debt service. And then above that,
[2:28:53] we do have the arena debt service reserve. So we do have 5.6 million in Fy 27. We have
[2:28:59] 5.3 million in fiscal year. 28, we do not have any needs offer we don't we don't have
[2:29:06] any needs in the out years for appropriations, for for that, OK? So.
[2:29:11] >> There are those tied to particular pennies. And have to do those.
[2:29:18] >> Yes, they they are. So there's the the 4th and the 5th Penny. So in Chapter one,
[2:29:20] 25 and in state law, we can provide marketing advertising and promotions and are all 6
[2:29:28] of the pennies. But we do have with a resolution approved by the board of County
[2:29:37] commissioners. The pennies are dedicated on the 4th and the 5th for for debt service. One
[2:29:42] is for convention center, an arena and one is just for the arena as well as we do have a
[2:29:47] dedication on the 6 penny that provides funding for not all the funny but provides a full
[2:29:54] penny of funding for the expansion debt service on the convention center. So what I'm
[2:29:59] hearing is there some strategy ahead of us? Yes, yes, correct. We did switch
[2:30:06] budgetary. In fiscal year 26 to where we budget for each of the 6 pennies. And so we did
[2:30:14] extensive work with county admin. The county attorney's office, the Finance Department
[2:30:20] on aligning all the eligible uses under state law and that 2 to add some more clarity for
[2:30:27] the board. That was also as a result of the arena agreement, right restructuring of of how
[2:30:35] remember that's that's tied to the quote. One of the questions I have is can that
[2:30:37] can some of resilience money? >> The used for matching grants. Or resilience and that
[2:30:45] specifically thinking about coral. because of the and I and obviously new Nexus.
[2:30:53] tourism. But coral reefs. isn't easy. Nexus. So how so? Right now we don't have it in
[2:31:01] there. But I do think this is a year where we have some opportunities. You know, we're
[2:31:07] saying we're seeing what's have what if I you just programs. And I think there's
[2:31:12] going to be other ones like that. So how do we make sure that that's in there? So
[2:31:19] something that I think our team can explore. You're right. Historically that's not
[2:31:24] been utilized for for that purpose, but maybe the next tied to these beach projects
[2:31:33] and resilience, projects that do have that direct. >> Line, a nexus tourism. That
[2:31:41] is definitely something that we will look at with the help of the attorneys.
[2:31:46] >> But not now. We're a with the manna with the Kristin Jacobs, colleagues on
[2:31:50] management plan that we couldn't do that for now. >> Now, that's that's very
[2:31:55] worthy exploration. Well, we'll talk with the attorneys on this.
[2:31:57] >> Okay. And then the only other thing is I think we're still missing a little bit on
[2:32:01] the eco tourism. I know this >> And I don't know how to. >> All it when when we speak
[2:32:09] of West Broward, but the kind of think. We forget about Real West Broward, which is like
[2:32:16] two-thirds of the entire county. That is the Everglades. That is, you know,
[2:32:22] a place unlike anywhere else in the world. But we don't we just have not marketed that
[2:32:26] very well. Nor have we asked Orden RFP of asking. Of, you know, who can take Who can
[2:32:34] ties or or or or leverage to, you know, with in numerous ways, even though I do know,
[2:32:41] you know about And it hold? They they do a good job and buses and buses go over there.
[2:32:47] The cruise ships. nonstop right? But that's that's about it.
[2:32:56] >> I think you'd be surprised many people we actually send out there o nly sealed tons
[2:33:00] us. No, no. But how many people we actually send out there, OK, good from from the
[2:33:05] influencers to the fam trips. People love seeing what Florida used to look like. And
[2:33:13] it someone who's lived here for 52 years. I'm always I'm always surprised how much they
[2:33:19] want to see an alligator up close right? What they do. And if they're fascinated by this
[2:33:26] creature that the airboat goes right over his or her back and but we an extraordinary amount
[2:33:32] of people out there and we spent quite a bit of money marketing both holiday and
[2:33:38] Sawgrass Nature in our campaign that we launch December 31st. There's an
[2:33:43] entire vent their entire vignettes about the Everglades because we know how critically
[2:33:46] important it is. The Florida story because then you travel to the beach and you stay at
[2:33:53] the 4 seasons near like, oh, my gosh, this is what Florida was or this is what Broward
[2:33:59] County was. And this is what Broward County is has evolved to look at. And that's I think
[2:34:02] that's an amazing story to tell. >> That's that's money. That's
[2:34:07] only thing. I think I think we're missing a little bit. But had to hear. That that's
[2:34:11] happened. That's happening a little bit more. But I think we probably do more.
[2:34:15] >> Well, I think always it in a little bit. More money would be
[2:34:17] >> really help if we're going >> And on the on our website does it is or a sinking with
[2:34:24] the arts calendar. On on our Michael, if you're going to visit visit, a lot of is are E
[2:34:31] sinking up to the to the cultural lines, arts calendar calendar. Is that your
[2:34:37] day-to-day? What's going on here? >> We don't sink it, but we do
[2:34:39] list it. So if I go on that, we our our Web host is separate. Then then the
[2:34:48] cultural divisions, which is hosted by Broward County. I don't even know. I mean. And
[2:34:53] you I guess I guess something they might we do. We would make sense of. Highlight. We
[2:34:59] promote what's going on culturally going in Broward County on our website. But
[2:35:04] that calendar is like a look a look and see if we could, even if we can, if that. Yeah, I
[2:35:06] mean, I'm a boomer whatever. I mean, this is as I take pictures on a camera. we will
[2:35:12] look to see if there's an interface can ability. >> Yeah, because they get the
[2:35:15] They really do go well together. And so that's all. Thank you. And good job.
[2:35:30] >> Last time last Okay. a lot of years, the years. Way before the Legislature. I have
[2:35:42] just a couple of questions. One is on the budget. The 26 budget is quite a bit more
[2:35:47] than that. 25 and then the 27 and I see it said that there were supplements, 4.9 million
[2:35:55] in supplements. There. So what was that? >> Primarily they without one
[2:36:02] supplements for I P w. Those are the appropriations that the board authorized. I
[2:36:11] believe I was gonna say 2 or 3 fiscal years before Jim fiscal. 23. And so they just
[2:36:16] came into workflow. Well, the budget flow that goes down back down to. That's correct.
[2:36:21] Yes. Is there one time and the same with FIFA and the same the national championship. So
[2:36:26] those were one time prove ul's by the board. And so that's why those were spikes. And
[2:36:34] most it, I don't have really a lot of other questions about things here. I think you've
[2:36:41] done an amazing job and >> you know, I think people really, I mean, just shows the
[2:36:48] growth all across the board here. But it's our cruises or whatever it is. It's all
[2:36:51] connected. I think so. growth here a little sad about the Canada thing because I think
[2:36:58] it is going to be a little bit of a downside for us here. >> Through no fault of our
[2:37:05] own. And you know, we'll continue to market everyone under the sun. But, you know,
[2:37:09] I also I have amazing team at visit Lauderdale. they work extraordinarily hard and are
[2:37:17] dedicated and committed to marketing, promoting assist a nation in keeping people
[2:37:20] employed. So I've been very lucky and it's been an honor and a privilege to spend my to
[2:37:27] be the last chapter of a career. We go into next next chapter 9. Hardin,
[2:37:40] Hendersonville County, North Carolina, North Carolina, right? Yeah. Yeah. So.
[2:37:47] >> All right. All right. Anderson County, I don't even know the name of the county
[2:37:49] I'm going to, but I do know the city and the city >> So I just ate it. Holiday
[2:37:55] part. Everglades Holiday Park was put up, put up in and Donna sitting there. So he
[2:38:00] knows we we have mates. I mean, it's such unbelievable strides at Everglades Holiday
[2:38:03] Park. The amount of business that they do. the problem is we can't kind of keep up with
[2:38:11] it with the growth of building that needs to be replaced there. And, you know, we've
[2:38:15] done a lot of a lot of beautiful things there. But there's a lot more to do, but
[2:38:19] it but it is amazing. His eye. Been out there many, many times and it's just amazing
[2:38:26] when you actually see how excited and enthusiastic people are about being there.
[2:38:33] And they do realize that it's a treasure. I mean, we're the only ones who have it. So I
[2:38:37] think, you know, whatever we can do to market it. And I think you've done a there's
[2:38:40] been tremendous growth in that area. I I I mean, certainly all the crew, the cruise ships
[2:38:47] and so forth. But I love that expansion of the the amounts of children that go their kids
[2:38:53] but it's a it. I mean, to me, it's it's like a number one tourist attraction, because if
[2:38:58] there's nothing else like I think we've done a good job. We can. We can always do more.
[2:39:03] Thank you for everything. Well, Terry, are there >> Thank you so much for
[2:39:18] everything. And you talked about your deep bench candidates has been part of
[2:39:21] that. Candice and the BSO DaeSean always was a big fan of her then and the fan of her
[2:39:27] now, all those folks that you know, work so hard. That the CVB say. Thank you so much for
[2:39:32] that. They said 2 quick comments. Someone is. When it comes to my colleagues, make
[2:39:40] sure that your cities getting engaged. Which the CVB. I know that my before popping or to
[2:39:46] buy see Fort Lauderdale. They all are getting engaged with and states. He's been there to
[2:39:53] help them guide them. Through different programs that are available. Different grants
[2:39:58] are available. She's there, for instance, if they're applying for something in,
[2:40:04] this is not right walk them through it. But I think it's up to us. Let the city's know
[2:40:10] that they're they're us just light guide them there. But let them know that that's
[2:40:13] available to them. And folks are there to help them. And it's not just one time. It's
[2:40:19] been multiple times that. My city study for has. Taking advantage of it and then
[2:40:26] rewarded for it. So this please. We'll sit back and think that going to come to
[2:40:31] you. But you it aggressive that come to them and they'll be happy to help. The last
[2:40:37] thing I want to talk about his beach renourishment and the U.S. and bypass dri. Do
[2:40:42] obviously become nurse very special to me in district 4 and continue process. But
[2:40:51] bypass has been a really challenge, you know, 30 years in the making. It's here. And
[2:40:54] it's. I was saddened to see the lawsuit. and I can tell you that. The folks that
[2:41:02] follow the lawsuit and the communities that. Spoke up about it, I can to the doctor
[2:41:09] raw dough. Hours of time and effort go through hours of time and effort to tell the
[2:41:15] people. We have the permits. We're managing it, but the permits are from the state.
[2:41:22] The federal government, you know, we've done all we can to do. We need to do. It's all
[2:41:29] there and to see it kind of come to a halt is it's kind of sad, but keep the faith and
[2:41:36] it'll be, know, we're about 90%. think before this happened. But thank you for
[2:41:40] your efforts to and making it a reality. And it's just don't give up misses model through
[2:41:46] it finish the project because it's such a. The project needs to be done. So now. Part of
[2:41:53] ecosystem, part of the the nurse Mont of the folks south of the port. It's just really
[2:41:59] support. So keep the faith and do what you do. Thank you for everything. Thank you for your
[2:42:05] support. I think Stacey, I know years ago. >> We used to be able to share
[2:42:23] information about major events in cities. Your department with help us to get the
[2:42:28] hotels. the events because they know it was vetted by council or whenever and we
[2:42:38] were able to benefit from those that are already here. You know, they have good
[2:42:42] things to say about Broward County because they're not just thank you all. We do
[2:42:47] years, the beaches. Individual cities to have defense as worthy. If you're a visit as
[2:42:55] participating. So I don't know how we get that too. It back to that. And then I'm still
[2:43:00] always concerned that when be a lull in place and then we have amended it that we are
[2:43:08] getting this representation because I honestly don't believe that when the vote is
[2:43:13] voted for that additional penny sales tax. All of these amendments. Whatever we do to
[2:43:21] be included in hotels, invention center, different transportation move that
[2:43:27] helps. People all over the county and different places connectedness to everything.
[2:43:35] When we approve that pay, the sales tax, none of those things were. Are 2 of
[2:43:41] discussion because it was efficient at the time. So when the changes come in and then I
[2:43:49] I don't know if the things that you told me we're going to happen. It's happening
[2:43:54] because no one says when we approve the penny sales tax, we so the residents of voters
[2:44:01] ex E are we achieve in X, Y and Z? That's my question. >> So I let Stacy address the
[2:44:10] first question about The municipalities and then I will the next question because the
[2:44:16] next question is actually about the surtax, the transporation surtax, not to
[2:44:23] the tourist development tax, but we have that presentation and 2 more presentations. So
[2:44:27] we'll be able to address it a little bit better. if you wanted to speak to the
[2:44:32] municipality conversation. >> Well, we do post on our website and through social
[2:44:37] media was going on in cities. >> and but I what we do not directly talk to the hotel's
[2:44:47] about that. But hotels are usually willing to offer. Packages. When there are
[2:44:55] events coming into town. So if there's something in particular that thank you,
[2:45:00] miss me, >> I'm Saint Hotels. Don't know. But they sit at the
[2:45:08] county mission meeting or whatever you call it. What those meetings right can reach
[2:45:15] towards development Council. Yes, tourist Development Council. They don't even know
[2:45:19] what's happening in all the cities to help you to get the message out to the tourist
[2:45:26] that this city is hosting. This event this weekend. So maybe this another choice.
[2:45:34] Your tour is what? How when they go back home. This I at a great time in Fort Lauderdale.
[2:45:37] Not only did I go to the beach, but I want to museum. I. African American labor or
[2:45:43] we want to to fix center in Miramar because they had some awesome events. That's what
[2:45:48] I'm saying. What kind of advocacy do we have sitting at the We should okay.
[2:45:57] >> We regularly share with the industry things that are going on in a very in the different
[2:46:00] cities so that they can promote them to their visitors when they when they check
[2:46:04] hotels. There's always whenever you check into any of the hotels, they'll be a flyer
[2:46:09] on things to do or what's coming this weekend or thing this, I would love to see.
[2:46:15] >> Some of events not since not been doing Kagan, but I'm saying thank you. are you
[2:46:20] promoting? Thank you. Thank you. Us. >> thank you so much. Thank
[2:46:26] you. Thank you. Dr. Raw Dough. Thank you. Miss and team to that Monica, who's next? So
[2:46:38] the next presentation is a transportation committee a more do we how many have 3
[2:46:42] more? more so we will we will speed it up. I think that these 2 that we had first for
[2:46:47] the 2 lengthiest ones. So tried to get commissioners or 2 that have to be out of
[2:46:53] Europe for. So I just know we will be out of here. I the way we will be quicker on these
[2:47:00] last 3. I intentionally listed the 2 0st that I thought would take the longest. And I think
[2:47:05] the last 3 will go a lot quicker. >> Senator, let's get you to
[2:47:10] talk so little today. It's wonderful. >> Mr. Mayor, if you're ready,
[2:47:18] we can continue my okay do it. So so you have seen Mr. Zenker before us and runs anchor lead
[2:47:24] program manager for Office of Budget Management and Budget. So I want to let sunshine
[2:47:28] begin. But we got Just get order here. If my team speaking in the back, let's
[2:47:38] keep it down. Please. Yeah. Come on. Keep it down. >> All right. Take it away.
[2:47:49] All right. Good afternoon, mayors, vice mayor as Monica said, Ankara, program manager
[2:47:53] in the Office of Management and Budget. So that's where today. All right. next,
[2:48:01] presentation transportation capital schools. 27 to 31. This is gas tax funded and it
[2:48:06] focuses on maintaining the existing road infrastructure and the county. So moving on
[2:48:14] to revenues. As a reminder, our peak gas tax revenue we collected at this point now is
[2:48:23] 21 years ago, we nearly got back there in fiscal 23 after the pandemic. However, what
[2:48:28] we've been seeing as of late is a weakening in this revenue. In terms of fiscal.
[2:48:34] 26, it seems to be accelerating and that so when we extrapolate that out to
[2:48:38] fiscal 27, that amounts 7.8% decrease compared to the 26 adopted budget gas tax
[2:48:48] revenues are generated based on the number of gallons sold. So price doesn't directly
[2:48:55] affected. However, some of the factors that would affect consumption. Are the increase
[2:48:59] in electric and hybrid vehicles that you're seeing out there. So as manufacturers
[2:49:07] produce more of little directly affect how much we receive in revenue at the
[2:49:12] bottom of the slide is the mix of gas tax revenues that are levied to censor
[2:49:18] constitutional $0.12 our local option. Gas taxes, a majority of the $0.12 goes to
[2:49:24] supporting transit operations as well as public works operations like Highway
[2:49:30] Bridge, Maintenance, construction, engineering and traffic engineering. So in
[2:49:38] total revenues of the program, amount to 349 Million. There are some interest earnings
[2:49:46] budgeted to support Capital capital projects within the program and the 5 years. And
[2:49:51] as these larger projects, Progress Fund balance will be spent on over the 5 years. So
[2:49:57] the total transportation couple program is 418.7 million dollars. On the
[2:50:07] appropriations side. You can see the different categories that. Gas tax support. So
[2:50:13] there's bridge projects throughout the county get worked on in the 5 year
[2:50:17] program. How in bridge maintenance this is your typical road maintenance like
[2:50:22] resurfacing guardrail, repair, drainage traffic, engineering maintenance. This is going to
[2:50:28] be year signals. Ation communications equipment to keep those signals running.
[2:50:32] Replacing mast arms. Couple program support. This is going to be. Operating costs that
[2:50:39] support these capital projects. And then as you can see, there's the portion
[2:50:45] supporting transit operations as well as the public works operations. I mentioned. Last
[2:50:54] slide. Here's a quick status update from public works and environmental services on the
[2:50:58] major projects that are underway and transportation capital. that concludes the
[2:51:09] presentations. So in the back to Monica. Thank you, sir. I told you would be quick.
[2:51:26] >> My only question is and this is more of a comment. Maybe I addresses to the
[2:51:32] county attorney. Can we do anything locally in Broward County about waiving some of
[2:51:34] the gas tax so that we can lower the price of fuel. Our residents. I mean, it is maybe
[2:51:40] some you may need to research, but I'm just thinking of the idea. Is there the ability for
[2:51:44] Broward County on a local level to waive some of its gas tax?
[2:51:51] >> So Mr, mentioned that we have there's a portion of the gas tax that our local option,
[2:51:55] tax levy by at at our level rather than at the state level. So we could look into
[2:52:00] the process for him. But that is a possibility of doing. And we work with the
[2:52:06] municipalities on those in the are also sharing a portion of that. So okay. So can you get
[2:52:10] back to me with some just details on that. So I can researching a little further.
[2:52:14] Yeah, some will provide you the information for what the options are and kind of how
[2:52:16] you know they're now it's a series of levees is not just act. How that go forward.
[2:52:21] Thank you. Absolutely provide it, everybody absolutely. And provided to me first, give me
[2:52:33] a couple days and then provided to everybody. I'm at the end provided to Monica
[2:52:39] Commissioner 18 found that just to follow up on road quickly. Kai was want to.
[2:52:44] >> On Page 2 of this presentation and the last footnote you can you'll see
[2:52:49] there and that will be they research on the legal side that those $0.12 are the local
[2:52:54] option, gas tax generates close to 59 million dollars what you see above. But also
[2:52:59] part of that is at the municipal level. So what will work with them? And he can our
[2:53:05] team. But I just want you to see where that comes from. Thank you.
[2:53:17] >> We'll go to now just I mean about this. I just want one thing. We also put what that
[2:53:22] funds. What that money funds already. Yes, ma'm. And if out so that people know what you
[2:53:31] know, but the tradeoff is and they're right here. And that's exactly right. So those fund
[2:53:40] all of those projects that you see here that over the course of the five-year cip.
[2:53:46] >> The major bridge projects we have here in the county that were responsible. How
[2:53:52] many? >> We just we have 100 and the there's 94 bridges, including
[2:53:55] 3 which includes 3 of the Basque Hill Bridge in CC downtime.
[2:54:00] >> And including the traffic engineering maintenance capital. These other. Capital
[2:54:03] program supported transit and public works operations. So it does include all of this. And
[2:54:11] in the capital budget itself. We're out. rolled it up here, but that's over the course of
[2:54:18] the 5 years. It's over 400 million dollars of of infrastructure projects that
[2:54:21] that funds. >> do have a schedule of of maintenance on all those that
[2:54:29] and is it is like a list of critical. You know, was that are in critical shape. I think
[2:54:34] because I know we have a couple of bridges over. >> We do have that. I don't
[2:54:41] have it at my disposal right this minute, but we can certainly provides that where
[2:54:43] this money. That's exactly where comes. Yes, I think that's important to build a
[2:54:47] safe. These are these things are in line to be done. >> Yes, all being funded now.
[2:54:51] But there is I'm assuming a schedule yet. And then with area they're getting taken
[2:54:57] care of one by one. And they're ranked based on critical timing their age and
[2:55:02] all of the repairs that need to be and we have. yes, our public Department has all of
[2:55:11] that. And in fact, we go through budget development. It's that balance of of what
[2:55:16] are the available resources for those projects and which projects are most critical.
[2:55:22] And those that rise to the top are the ones that you see here funding. Okay. That's Thanks
[2:55:26] mayor. Can piggyback on the bridge issue quick because 3 here. They list the 3 that
[2:55:32] they're doing now. But it says a planned. So I just want I want I want to get a list of
[2:55:40] the 8 I can. But understand probably the 3 of the most critical right now, whether it
[2:55:47] be, you know, 56 Street Andrews and 3rd. I just want all 8 of them. I could. And if
[2:55:53] I might just dispel any cause engine off it's And so the distinction you're probably
[2:55:58] going current Yeah. So the status update on the 3. Those are just those are just 3 of
[2:56:05] the ones that they're working on. There's others that are current currently budgeted
[2:56:08] that they're working on on. >> You know, in the in the background because the more
[2:56:14] that is out of the 8 plan bridge projects. That's I was going. So looking forward in
[2:56:19] what you see on the screen, the 5 year program. This is a, you know, planning out those
[2:56:22] 8. new bridge projects that they're gonna come on line. And this is saving up to do
[2:56:29] all of those and we'll do it. You know, list of those don't that.
[2:56:39] >> site with the if you hate 0.9 million that you said $0.12. Much of that goes to
[2:56:46] the cities. >> That this is just the county portions. So that is
[2:56:52] all. Correct at their own. So there's a few gas taxes that gets shared with the city's
[2:57:00] and they're at different proportions. And those amounts are not shown here. This is
[2:57:03] just the county portion. >> But if if we're looking at what Commissioner Eugene
[2:57:08] talked about, it wouldn't involve the citizen. It would just be. It's point. It so
[2:57:15] taxes that are shared with the city's if correct me if I'm legal but if those are no
[2:57:23] longer renewed than the city's would lose their share. >> We have inner local
[2:57:29] agreement that we update annually per population and we distribute all 31 of the
[2:57:34] municipality's and they get a percentage share based on population. And that was the
[2:57:37] agreed upon formula that we came to a consensus on. And so if we do, forfeit temporarily,
[2:57:44] our county portion. It also impacts the cities. They will lose their portion as well.
[2:57:47] Okay. >> And in terms transit, what exactly. funding for transit.
[2:57:58] Supports transit operations. They're operating expenses, Now solar is maintenance of
[2:58:08] bosses. So in addition to the general fund, correct and and in addition, Penny tax, that's
[2:58:15] correct. And in addition to the portion that goes from a transportation surtax and what
[2:58:20] about the county transportation trust operations with that? So this
[2:58:23] is public works operations salaries. >> You know, operating
[2:58:29] expenses for highway bridge maintenance. How the construction engineering, as
[2:58:31] well as traffic engineering divisions within public works. >> basically, you need really
[2:58:37] to operate if you if you do away with this money. And what's happening, personnel
[2:58:42] know that I'm just it's just not. Addition. addition to the general fund. It actually
[2:58:50] helps with general operations of these departments. That's correct. just want to make
[2:58:54] sure clear on that. Thanks. >> No, just to add when you do that, I I want I'd like to see
[2:59:03] like some just different things. If we pause did for a little while, if we
[2:59:08] temporarily and get all the other things that that everyone else is asking about.
[2:59:11] But just like a detailed breakdown of what that entails so that we can present that or
[2:59:16] take a look at that if we wanted to. If the if the support was eventually there
[2:59:21] as far as r our residents, some relief at the pump. So will prepare, you know, really
[2:59:27] good for >> Everything is a live. Each of the talks are a little bit
[2:59:33] different. Will prepare a kind of you know where the allocation is. What the
[2:59:35] statutory allocation is, what we locally, if that's a different thing, does all that
[2:59:38] information that we think will be relevant? Not not. Well, he's on this cruise. I mean,
[2:59:41] lake. Isro said. >> Thank Thank you. So Sunshine's going to stay. He's
[2:59:50] doing the next presentation as well. I all be as efficient as possible. There so the next
[3:00:05] presentation is the fiscal 27 to 31 recommended surtax program.
[3:00:12] So what we just saw in terms of gas tax maintaining the existing roadway
[3:00:17] infrastructure, surtax revenues program, both for enhancing the roadway
[3:00:21] infrastructure as well as mobility options such as transit. We'll talk more about
[3:00:27] revenue on a further slide. But next we'll talk about the oversight board which met on
[3:00:30] Friday, August 14th. So this is just overview of what the oversight board reviewed. They
[3:00:40] reviewed all the 27 proposed projects as well as the propose 5 year plan and
[3:00:44] approved as eligible everything as presented. Surtax revenues. So as you may
[3:00:55] recall last year and during fiscal 26, we had to build in the state legislatures,
[3:01:02] elimination of the business. Tax least started the business least tax portion of the
[3:01:09] surtax. So what you see here in the 5 year program that's already built in. And based on
[3:01:15] the fiscal 26 forecast, we're about right where we thought we would be so fiscal. 27
[3:01:22] reflects a one percent increase over the 26 forecast. We also programmed in the 5
[3:01:29] year plan interest earnings on this is a conservative estimate and this is budgeted
[3:01:37] to support capital program, capital projects within the program. This is overview of
[3:01:48] the highlight a few areas in total surtax revenue, including interest earnings
[3:01:54] when budgeted at 95% total. 2.8 billion dollars. There's also 1.3 5 billion program to
[3:02:03] support couple projects from federal anticipated, you know, projected federal state grants
[3:02:08] for both PCR South as well as the airport Seaport, Connector Project and Fund balance is
[3:02:15] projected to be spent down as we progress through these large projects. On the
[3:02:21] appropriations side, transit capital is a total of 2.4 billion. This includes
[3:02:28] replacing buses, infrastructure projects. They have as well as as well as
[3:02:34] those in this number is Oakland Park BRT is budget in fiscal 27. As well as the
[3:02:42] airports. The Port Connector project budgeted in fiscal 28 airport seaport. Connectors
[3:02:46] estimated estimated to be about 1.5 billion dollars. next public works 430.0, 5
[3:02:53] million dollars budget in the 5 year program. We'll talk more about the municipal next
[3:02:56] slide. BC our South is budgeted at 453.2 million dollars in fiscal 27. That
[3:03:08] number includes estimated 200 million dollar federal cost share. We'll talk more
[3:03:12] about next slide total. You can see how much its budget for transit operating. So last
[3:03:25] slide, closer look at what's budget for operating appropriations map. Admin
[3:03:31] other operating such as public Works. County attorney remains a small portion of that
[3:03:37] overall program. There's a new program in here. The transportation sensor network,
[3:03:43] this monitors and addresses real-time roadway impacts such as flash flooding throughout
[3:03:47] the county. You can see the annual appropriation amounts for that support transit
[3:03:51] operations. When you look at the municipal projects line, the fiscal year, 27 budget,
[3:04:01] this includes the true-up of fiscal. 25 actuals as well as cost savings, which was worked
[3:04:07] on with the municipalities with county and Matt Gutman per the 3rd. The latest 3rd
[3:04:12] Amendment. And lastly, community shuttle buses budget based on the actual
[3:04:20] utilization of the service by the city's. concludes the presentation home and it back
[3:04:28] over to Monica. Yeah, just really quickly. Just want make a note that too. Commuter rail
[3:04:34] South. Of the 4. 53.2, but it. Again, its talks about assumes federal cost sharing of the
[3:04:42] 200 Million. If we don't get the 200 Million. They were not people to move forward with
[3:04:49] it. It would have to come from the program somewhere else in the program. We if that is the
[3:04:55] will of the board. If that's the real aboard, obviously want to continue the project.
[3:05:02] We also want to continue project going north as well. Thank
[3:05:12] >> When you one thing we haven't put I know every year we're going to look at
[3:05:14] different things on on surtax. But what I did there was driving in Miami. And I was
[3:05:20] had 3 different Waymo's around me. You know that driverless ones. And I think we're
[3:05:26] starting I guess they're starting to incorporate that into a lot of the first mile
[3:05:30] last mile. kind of stuff. And I guess I'm just wondering, we started look at that at all.
[3:05:39] We're actually pretty. They they were switching lanes and all kinds of this concept. So
[3:05:43] pretty amazing next. Or I'm gonna ask or to come join me up here. If I can get.
[3:05:49] >> Corey to come join So Corey, that the question was about Waymo down in Miami you
[3:05:59] want to talk about. Good afternoon, everybody >> So we are very excited
[3:06:10] about the opportunity to Thomas vehicles into our fleet of options for our passengers.
[3:06:17] We have already said Haddad very initial in early conversation with the city of
[3:06:23] Sunrise. We are building a intermodal center and near the Sawgrass Mills Mall which will
[3:06:29] accommodate our bus rapid transit from Oakland Park or fixed route service that
[3:06:32] serves the area in 800 car parking garage and eventually the light rail service that'll
[3:06:40] go from airport port Seaport Convention Center, connector. And with all of that in that
[3:06:49] area, it's a perfect storm for us to bring in autonomous vehicles. We've already had a
[3:06:55] preliminary discussion with the city of sunrise. They're excited to be able to be a
[3:06:57] part of that. We are going to be going after a grant to help pay for that. And so fingers
[3:07:04] crossed. Everything will work out. But it's definitely on the radar. And I happened to
[3:07:09] be sitting on a national committee for autonomous vehicles. Okay. So with that
[3:07:12] becoming out of surtax? Yes. Okay. Second question that I mean since and hope no.
[3:07:19] >> I was very I was amazed watching this it a little. It was a little disturbing
[3:07:25] looking both sides and nobody driving. But it was other than that. The second thing, the
[3:07:30] lead at the last commission meeting we had brought up the possibility of working with
[3:07:35] the school board. >> some sinking of the transporting high school
[3:07:44] students. I do a little bit of research. saw there's a number of cities actually do this.
[3:07:47] And it doesn't to me at what I like best about is kind of like. A farm team of could of
[3:07:53] getting future users. are you are you can you come back do need to do now. But can you
[3:08:00] come back with this? What your thoughts are on it and and how we might be able to do that.
[3:08:06] >> I'm aware of the conversation that happened at the the commission meeting. We
[3:08:10] are looking into seeing what options are available to us. We do right now served many of
[3:08:16] the high schools directly with our with our fixed route service. But there's some
[3:08:21] options there. I'm familiar with some of them in the and the country as well. And they
[3:08:25] happen to work in cities where they in I will bringing something back.
[3:08:31] >> And what may be court did not share is the while we're exploring the autonomous
[3:08:37] vehicles. And that is kind of where it's going in the future. Any pilot or you know,
[3:08:44] express implementation of this will come back to the board for adoption. We're exploring
[3:08:47] at this point so that we can bring back options to you all and get approval before it's
[3:08:54] actually deployed or anything like that. >> So I was mouthing to you. I
[3:08:58] don't think we ever voted on that or act. Okay. So I have concerns about autonomous
[3:09:02] vehicles. I don't know. You know, I've seen in my been la a lot and they've been all
[3:09:08] over Los Angeles is their Miami ready. But I mean, one is. Why was it safer? Having
[3:09:17] autonomous for says the driver. To to how many jobs are we going to be killing
[3:09:21] because of that? You know, we hurting our taxi rovers and lives and, you know, really
[3:09:29] what's the advantage? to me, it just, you know. You know, I I don't get it would whites
[3:09:38] that, you know, that you're on this committee what's the advantage to times vehicle
[3:09:40] versus vehicle driven by some. >> Taxi driver, somebody like I think the first thing I have
[3:09:47] to say is that it is we are very much the developmental stage of the potential for
[3:09:54] that level autonomy for these vehicles. They have not been tested to the degree that we
[3:09:59] would be introducing them. Here's in the in the near future. But what's advantage?
[3:10:06] But the advantages are there are some efficiencies that are created by having the
[3:10:12] autonomous vehicles and there Also an opportunity to use staff in a different way. Not
[3:10:20] that you would be eliminating staff, but that you would be using them in different using
[3:10:25] them in different ways and what they currently being used to that definitely an option.
[3:10:30] And when it's part of a system, it makes transportation just a little
[3:10:35] bit safe. There because they're following the traffic rules more so than the average
[3:10:41] driver does on buses. Well, right now, we're just talking about individual vehicles,
[3:10:45] not. which we don't. >> The county does We have bus drivers, but we're going to
[3:10:58] employ any >> We don't have right now. We have been it when we have the
[3:11:00] transit 2040, discussion. We talked about the transit desert here in Broward County.
[3:11:08] These are places, Serwer. We do not have any type of way too take big buses into those
[3:11:14] communities. But we do have people that have needs in those communities as well. So
[3:11:20] what we were proposing as part of transit, 2040, is to have a microtransit solution that
[3:11:29] would the GEO fence to certain areas. So people in there it in that area could go from
[3:11:32] door to door to certain locations. But those transit, those micro transit vehicles
[3:11:37] would connect with our buses. And then the buses would provide the longer journey.
[3:11:45] all I'm getting as a seat here and I'm not educated it sounds to me like it will take jobs
[3:11:51] away, which is I don't think is an elected official. It's that involved with that. Maybe
[3:11:57] I'm wrong. I'm just I'm just as his sitting here, uneducated. It sounds more
[3:12:05] liability. I you know, you say might be less liability IQ. Are you having a driver of
[3:12:08] this car can be more liability? driver? I don't know. educated.
[3:12:11] >> I I just don't want to just know when you bring it back. I really like to know the
[3:12:19] advantages to the alternative. We talked to our taxi industry and others about how they feel
[3:12:24] about that because they're part of our community. >> I understand, sir. And so,
[3:12:31] yeah, it wasn't ready for that part of the conversations will be bringing back information
[3:12:34] go. Thank you, Mister Mayor, for you. And I have met more times than I can count and I
[3:12:40] just water just want to everyone else and the commission know my views on
[3:12:45] these. I find it unlikely that during my lifetime we're going to end up with the light rail
[3:12:53] that we're talking about. If you see is simply not going for give us permission, put
[3:13:02] that many it dish Unal commuter rail cars on the line. Northam a commuter rail.
[3:13:09] Ron, we it needs to run frequently. And they're just never going to let had that
[3:13:17] many cars when they are counting on using it to freight line. They they've
[3:13:23] always said for a test to get priority. They're counting on the fall the communist
[3:13:28] dictatorship in Cuba. So I just don't see that ever happening We will continue to
[3:13:35] spend many millions of dollars every year on planning for something that will never
[3:13:41] occur in reference to the Oakland Park Rapid Transit. I believe that that calling for
[3:13:48] closing of lanes of traffic. I will no great, perfect, I support those as they're not
[3:13:55] closing lanes of traffic. As we have discussed I also back to the light rail, you know,
[3:14:05] certainly over the next 3 years, we're never going to see anything. Joe Biden like
[3:14:09] trains. That means they are anathema to the current occupant of the White House
[3:14:15] because anything that Biden light must be evil according to him. I were the one
[3:14:26] spending the money and I guess I do have one 9th control over that. I would start to
[3:14:35] emphasized the light rail that I don't think it's going to happen. I think we apm is
[3:14:39] great. air Mac people mover at the airport. The airport Seaport Convention Center
[3:14:46] connector. These are our priorities. Beyond that, I would love to see our transit
[3:14:52] surtax money go into areas. I cook to see a vastly improved fleet of buses. I think it is.
[3:15:02] Borderline criminal that somebody who lives Commissioner Rogers district
[3:15:08] that The beach needs to take 2 or 3 hours of buses to get there. I would love to see a
[3:15:15] tremendous we enhanced and improved bus system which people will take if it's
[3:15:22] nicer, it has to be secure. Maybe WiFi again. I know that the security issues. Our
[3:15:31] abundant there, but I would I think that our buses real your where we should putting in
[3:15:36] more money, including improved bus stops, more bus shelters. You can't have people in
[3:15:43] Florida where to 120 degrees average and it rains every 8 minutes. There have to be
[3:15:50] better bus shelters for people. And the second thing I put my money in is to
[3:15:58] overpasses, underpasses, particularly near the railroad. I can tell you my
[3:16:02] level of frustration. How many times with my office here in downtown water deal. I get
[3:16:08] stuck at railroad crossings, which is, by the way, why we should move government entered
[3:16:14] a plantation. But that's a different mission. But if if there are ways of doing either
[3:16:19] over or underpasses, both at the railroad crossings or at 4.41. And Sunrise Boulevard.
[3:16:30] The overpass over 4.41. tremendously improves traffic. There. That's where I would
[3:16:36] like to see your traffic surtax money going. Buses and overpasses, underpasses. But I
[3:16:43] know that's not going to happen because I'm only one 9th of the vote. But that's
[3:16:49] really what I think would be a lot more successful. Thank you.
[3:16:54] Definitely. No bicycles are OK as they don't close of traffic.
[3:17:01] >> Just to follow up on the conversation, Good Job Centre and I appreciate it. But the
[3:17:05] autonomous when you say we're looking at that, you only mean we as far as Broward Transit
[3:17:09] as opposed to what the private sector is doing. They're doing. We have nothing to do
[3:17:14] with correct. know that they've been meeting with law. You know, different people.
[3:17:17] That's correct. That's coming to Broward, whether whether we like it or not, this happened
[3:17:23] I just wanted to be clear on that. Thank you. >> No, no, Yes, thank you. And
[3:17:36] I would like to take us back to the sidewalks, talking about transportation, but I
[3:17:41] would like to start feeling safe again on my sidewalk. We have these scooters and
[3:17:48] biggest schoolers and large motorbikes all over the sidewalks. It's no longer
[3:17:52] history mode of transportation, for pedestrians don't have to get
[3:17:59] on the buses as of yet, but they need to go back and forth walking and doing all those
[3:18:02] good things. So when I'm looking at revenue and looking at interest earned, I think we
[3:18:10] can discuss some of the things that we can do, but the interest earned instead of
[3:18:14] just doing the same capital projects, identify some pilot programs to see how we can
[3:18:20] solve having pedestrians. Competing on our roadways and the bike lanes and not large
[3:18:26] enough for these speed bikes. not like a bicycle before to bike use be on the regular
[3:18:34] roads. These fast driving things. You want to know there behind you when their
[3:18:39] close-up? All right. But I think we need to start looking at that. That is serious. Talk
[3:18:43] about more people talk about the safety and talk about the roads. How we get around our
[3:18:50] neighborhoods, the folks whose in bike speed bikes as well bicycles. So that. as we have
[3:18:56] for interests, earn, I'm going back there. Identify some pilot program to solve that
[3:19:03] problem. Then we have plant in the right tree in the right places. We have planted trees
[3:19:09] in places where Ian, it's. You wrote in your roadways, the sidewalks us to a lot of
[3:19:15] damage. We can use some of that identify some new projects. Hear from the
[3:19:21] communities what they would like to see done that responsibility to take care
[3:19:26] of. And that's our sidewalks. And or bike lanes speak and make sure there's a change
[3:19:33] because it someone to make sure that happens. That's all I'm supportive of the comments
[3:19:41] made by my colleagues. But I'm saying there are other things. If you're in your car, you
[3:19:48] don't see. But if you walk in your communities, you will see it. And so we need to engage
[3:19:52] people. I thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. And notice iPhone the money. I'm not
[3:19:59] asking for new revenues. >> Thank you, Monica, where Jones, anything might have one
[3:20:07] at You're outdoors or questions. The fur. Okay. We're presentation. We have
[3:20:14] one last presentation last presentation will be efficient and well as well. Thank you,
[3:20:22] Sanjay Myers, last presentation of the sit through. video tape it to be
[3:20:28] good, sleeping material when you're on your trip. Our assistant director of the
[3:20:32] Office management budget that you know and love Elijah and it Mister Anderson. It may be
[3:20:40] on the love but it will get good afternoon. Mayor Vice mayor commissioners, when we
[3:20:47] talk and we're talking about general capital. So this is the overview of the fiscal
[3:20:49] year. 27 to 31. >> General Capital program. All right. So the general kept
[3:20:55] the program, as you all recall, includes funds for the maintenance and construction
[3:21:00] of are generally funded facilities. So this is primarily property taxes can
[3:21:04] to resume this funding to take care of critical infrastructure, such as our
[3:21:07] public safety and correctional facilities are the equipment that runs or regional
[3:21:11] communications and technology system. All right. He systems or judicial facilities,
[3:21:16] general government facilities like this building as well as our libraries and of course,
[3:21:20] parks. So some of the key assumptions that we used to, you know, former
[3:21:26] recommendations, the primary focus is, of course, maintaining in replacing our
[3:21:30] tech support assets. And those are currently valued at bar. Your tax supported capital
[3:21:36] assets which are valued at over 2 billion dollars and the proposed average appropriation
[3:21:40] over the 5 year program. He's approximately 25.2 million dollars annually. So that
[3:21:47] recurring revenue that funds the general counsel program as mentioned earlier, it is
[3:21:52] primarily property taxes in Fy 27. We are expecting that to yield roughly 105.1 million
[3:21:58] dollars. In addition to that, we do program interest income that is generated from the
[3:22:02] fund balance in the background and then there is the sale of surplus equipment, which is
[3:22:07] approximately $225,000 annually. addition to the recurring revenues, we do have
[3:22:13] one-time revenues that includes 5.4 million dollars of fund balance. A 35 million
[3:22:18] dollar transfer from the general fund in Fy 27 and then future Bonds issued my 27. We
[3:22:24] are proposing 22 million dollars of additional future bonds issued and that's to
[3:22:29] cover costs increase is related to the Forensic Science Center project. Now
[3:22:33] get into the appropriation site. And first will focus on the most significant fy 27
[3:22:40] proposed appropriations. We broke into 3 categories in the first category is public
[3:22:43] safety, judicial projects. can see there are a number of projects where we're proposing
[3:22:48] significant appropriations such as champa improvements a judicial complex, additional
[3:22:55] funding for regional communications and technology system as well as some
[3:22:59] maintenance and other improvements at various court houses, judicial facilities
[3:23:03] and public safety facilities like the public safety building. On the other side,
[3:23:07] we have general government projects to the most significant appropriation in
[3:23:13] Fy. 27 is the additional 52.0. 9 million of pay go that we're proposing to put towards the
[3:23:17] emergency operation and communication center. There's also 24 million dollars
[3:23:22] program for the cultural center and that 22 million dollars. I spoke about just a
[3:23:27] moment ago for the cost increase for the forensic science Center. That's backed
[3:23:29] by future Bonds issued. And then lastly, for parks, division highlights there
[3:23:34] include roughly 4 million dollars for a couple of projects at the Central Round
[3:23:39] Regional Park. But there's also 2.6 for playground replacements and 2 and a half
[3:23:45] million various maintenance our regional park system. And then lastly, the slide very
[3:23:50] high level summarizes the appropriations and the out year out years of the program.
[3:23:55] So this is fiscal year. 28 through fiscal year. 31. So this includes contributions,
[3:24:01] too more complex improvements at the main judicial complex projects that interact with
[3:24:07] the Broward Sheriff's Office, including the evidence warehouse and the
[3:24:10] refurbishment of the Fleet Service center. As far as general government projects in
[3:24:14] out years, we are proposing additional pay go towards the government center, East
[3:24:20] replacement project. There is the 80 million dollars for the resiliency plan which is
[3:24:22] 20 million dollars each year and then for parks division projects. We do have highlight
[3:24:30] their of 46.7 million dollars programmed for the new parks and recreation headquarters.
[3:24:36] In addition to further playground replacements improvements at the North
[3:24:39] Beach, Hollywood, North Park. And then we lastly the funding set aside for just general
[3:24:46] maintenance and improvements that are general government facilities, our parks
[3:24:50] facilities in our library facilities. So with that, I will turn it back over to
[3:24:53] Monica Spear. Let's go around the room. It's cancer. No is the answer. From one
[3:25:02] Commissioner Roger Davis. >> Just a question. You mentioned the cultural center.
[3:25:09] That's one Vice president won flamingo and 5.95. when you due to be completed, mean,
[3:25:19] what stage is it that way? No, because could much on that lately.
[3:25:25] >> Yes, it's still in the planning design phase and previous prior and previous
[3:25:28] budget years, the board's appropriated approximately 2 million dollars for put
[3:25:32] design. So that's the current phase that it's So when does it do to be, you know, what's
[3:25:36] the timeline cause? I mean, you have 2 years. I about it, but it doesn't like it's going
[3:25:42] to go anywhere. I'm going to another 10. It's made a jump come up, OK, thank you.
[3:25:56] >> Good afternoon. It is currently in the Sinai approaching the end after I'm
[3:25:59] process about 75%, which means by the end of the year, the signs will be completed and
[3:26:04] that opens to the or them the procurement for construction and the actual construction of
[3:26:08] the project. >> So what are we talking about? When this be completed?
[3:26:17] 2028. Okay with that ice and great thanks. Thank you. Commissioner. You need.
[3:26:23] please, No quick please make sure that it's done by 2028. the other
[3:26:32] >> question. I notice that there's snow. Totals on any of these because I think if they
[3:26:38] were totals, we'd all be scared. >> the.
[3:26:45] >> Just add a quick. I don't know how many hundreds of millions of dollars this would
[3:26:49] total because there are no totals there. But I do know that this. Our capital
[3:26:57] spending plan has always dramatically exceeded our ability to pay for that. how
[3:27:03] are we going to be dealing with that moniker that some of these more higher priorities
[3:27:07] than others. I presume. Can you give us an idea? A guy would have really appreciated
[3:27:14] totals in each category total totals, right? So when you just tell us what which of
[3:27:20] these are the priority. So these are what you see here is the summary, right? So
[3:27:24] >> when you look at the capital Budget book itself, obviously there's hundreds of
[3:27:30] projects in there. And so as an example on this slide, number 8, this is the summary
[3:27:37] of the 5 year cip as it relates to those dollars that are spent that our program
[3:27:45] forward, General Fund, basically general capital program. And so certainly can
[3:27:51] provide a some a total, but it's not the total of all the projects. These are some of
[3:27:58] the higher level projects as it relates to the priorities that is set by you all we come
[3:28:05] to you a regular basis when there's specific project needs. We'll ask you guys to
[3:28:14] prioritize as one of the examples is the government center project that you guys
[3:28:19] have had many conversations on us. The one the top right. That's also not fully funded.
[3:28:23] As you all know, this is what is programmed as of today. For those project, it does not
[3:28:30] necessarily mean that it's the totality of the project. That is what exists in the capital
[3:28:35] program. With General Capital program. Dollars. So if you want to have a conversation
[3:28:46] about, you know, all the needs of the county for the infrastructure that so much
[3:28:53] larger conversation. And you're right, it we don't have enough money to fund every
[3:28:56] single thing. And that's when we come to you all and say, here's the amount of resources
[3:29:01] that are available and I need your priority so that we know where to shift the dollar most
[3:29:09] recently, we you all had a conversation on on the government center. And you
[3:29:16] also told us and give us feedback to put general capital dollars into general
[3:29:23] fund dollars into the OC Emergency Operation Center. So we did with with cash
[3:29:29] availability for funding that then would create us the need to have a conversation with
[3:29:35] you all about issuing bonds for certain programs are projects and that will be the
[3:29:43] Forensic Science Center as an example. And we will be coming back to you all at the
[3:29:46] appropriate time to 2 identify. That's the That's the way you'd like to fund
[3:29:52] those projects in closing a direct say think it's good that we've been able to pay
[3:29:59] much of this in cash. >> Issuing billions of dollars worth of bonds. It's the same
[3:30:05] as taxes except we're just putting off. You know, we're spending now and having future
[3:30:10] taxpayers pay off the bonds that the reason why we have the AAA credit rating is
[3:30:15] because you've been responsible in not doing tons floating tons bonds and paying
[3:30:21] as we go. I'm just very concerned as we all are that. There are so many. Hundreds of
[3:30:31] millions or billions, actually, I think of expenditures that we need and
[3:30:35] I just don't see are. Cash keeping up with that. Thank you.
[3:30:43] >> And this is a sliver of it. It's not how we fund all of the program. This is just this
[3:30:47] particular presentation was just about general capital. Have you the explanation West?
[3:30:58] We don't see certain things. A couple years ago we had a legislative. the house folks
[3:31:06] Tallahassee Kamia table. We were discussing juvenile justice. It does nothing
[3:31:20] today. This to say that you can bring about some of into that anywhere. From that
[3:31:23] conversation? Have we gone anywhere? >> I know my team has been
[3:31:30] working on it. I don't have that update today, but I will get that to And to the board.
[3:31:33] All right. >> And Primo's primo somewhere being worked too and not be
[3:31:34] in. It. Primo is being worked on, but it will not be part of this became Taishan. It really
[3:31:42] probably more appropriate in. >> The surtax. Okay. say she spent thirdly parks and Recs
[3:31:49] regional park. Has a water facility. Area there that has not worked in some years. Is
[3:31:58] anything in here too. Improve that make that? Whole again. So what you love to hear is I
[3:32:12] have briefing, I think coming up with each of commissioners I. I believe maybe may have
[3:32:18] share with Dennis and might not have gotten to But we toured around with that. What
[3:32:22] going to be in the current fiscal year, not even there were cases. So dinner been
[3:32:26] down full. Well, we're going to do too. Does he have an event there? Somers will park.
[3:32:34] The families if they have in some type of reunion. No activity. Kids, there's
[3:32:36] nothing to do there. so. I think that feature was would be good when we're reading out
[3:32:46] public spaces, if you will. So thank you, sir. Now get you some more detail on that. The
[3:32:58] only thing I want is can kind of keep in mind is. When we think about parks and
[3:33:03] libraries. Those are the 2 things that are citizens use all the time. All the other
[3:33:07] stuff on here. The to this. Particularly for people can't. Expensive vacation or
[3:33:17] something. Our parks are their vacation. You know, on day-to-day basis, it was when
[3:33:22] you go to the library. people using it on a day-to-day basis. So I think we just if
[3:33:28] you keep that in mind and make sure that those state funded as well as we can. And we were
[3:33:36] thinking alike. So we often do. But mind goes a little further than that. And that is
[3:33:42] to remind everybody that these are the primary kerns source of revenue here. Property
[3:33:46] taxes. And that parks and libraries are not even included in court services.
[3:33:52] And the amendment. So. We should be, you know, thinking about that as we go out and
[3:33:58] talk about. Educating people about what gets impacted. I passage of a property tax and
[3:34:05] parks and libraries, but right there on the top of the list. Microphone, sir. You heard me
[3:34:21] right? >> Yes, an individual commissioners are in the
[3:34:32] ryquell. Yeah. Specific questions about an activity that you're planning to engage
[3:34:34] you heard prior meeting, please reach out to us. But yes, and you know, the answer
[3:34:38] in general is that you're able each commissioner individually, you all are. You
[3:34:44] have a lot more flexibility than having we have on our as an individual. I could do it.
[3:34:47] I want right? >> Yes, without county resources. Privately you can
[3:34:53] do it publicly. We just need to be careful but educating people on facts. Without being
[3:35:01] right, which the long lines of what Senator Rich said, that's permissible privately in
[3:35:05] certain settings. Yes, but we also ask that because of the stakes here that you
[3:35:11] coordinate with us, the extent that you have the ability to do so before going out and
[3:35:14] advocating, you're educating just to make sure that rebel. Commissioner.
[3:35:25] >> You are You even better. Now all that you're better than you are were finished.
[3:35:28] This meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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