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? ? Thank you very much, ladies

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and gentlemen, thank you for being with us this morning. I we do have some guests here

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today. I would like to call this meeting of the Broward Housing Council to order. It

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is 10, 0, 7, Sue, if you would, please, to the role. Good morning, everyone. Just

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full of Allegan here. Marcia Barry Smith. Mora Bowman. Michelle Callie. That daily.

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Kerrigan. Arnold choice here. can or cannot join us today. Chris Chrisman here. Pearson.

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Nathan Perlmutter here. Commissioner Rogers. Stone here. Taylor. I know she's

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here. Mission is here. She is here right now. And we do have a quorum. Thank you. Thank you

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very much. >> we are going to jump right into our agenda and get this

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moving right along. I apologize for starting a few minutes late. I did tell you

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to is here. And yes, she absolutely is. Sandra Vz Einhorn, the one and only

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please enlighten us. Arnott and lightning. But >> good morning, everyone.

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>> Nice to see friendly longtime faces and for those of you that I'm just meeting

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for the first time, Sandra Jessee Einhorn. So nice to meet you. I believe in

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technically on the agenda twice. But for now, I just wanted to introduce myself and

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the Coordinating Council of Broward. think the easiest thing to do is introduce

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myself as Ralph Stone's longtime sidekick. Perhaps the one that causes the troubles

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that he can come in and then diplomatically smooth things out. But the coordinating

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Council of Broward is a local nonprofit. The mission of the Ccb is to unite Business

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Government and nonprofit in advocacy and coordination of Health and Human Services.

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It's really sort done flowed since the 90's. And I took over in 2016 2016 was after

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the Great Recession. But long before COVID it was the first time that the Alice report was

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published as everyone familiar with the Alice report. We are around the table. Yes, okay.

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So out the Alice report came out and lo and behold, it health and human service

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stakeholders. That housing was really the biggest issues. So if we weren't addressing

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housing affordability whether you worked in health care or education or child welfare,

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you weren't going to be able to be successful if housing affordability was and being

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addressed. I had known Mr. Stone from my previous role in it nonprofit called Rebuilding

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Together. And I marched into outs office in 2016 and I said, guess what? I have brand

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new people at the table that all recognize the importance of housing. We're going to

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move. We're going to move that needle. We're going to get something done. And I I joke

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that he perhaps respected me too much to tap me on the head and say sure. But he did say.

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Getting half getting half getting a not really. And I say that I really say that to

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say because back in 2016, the landscape around housing, affordability looked a lot

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different. You know, the the macroeconomics of housing affordability certainly does

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preclude local government from making the kind of investments that they need to make with

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amendment 3 looming. I think we can all appreciate and many of you have served on this

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board for a long time or have your own city budgets to contend with that. You know,

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it's hard to make those lots of 0 investments into housing. Nonetheless, then Senator Nan

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Rich, now county commissioner in and Rich was running for office on the County

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commission and really believed in really bought into the recognition that without

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addressing housing affordability, everything else is sort of stalling. And both

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resilience of our community, the sustainability, the ability for residents and

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business owners to thrive. Israeli inhibited by the lack of affordable options in

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Broward County. And so in 2018, the court anyhow led the effort on the November 2018

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ballot to create the Broward County Affordable Housing Trust Fund. We were pleased

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that that passed with 74% of the vote. I know that politics is toxic. Now. It really

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wasn't any different in 2018. And so I think that 74% of voters again showed that

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overwhelmingly 3 out of 4 household in Broward County recognized in some way, shape

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or form that housing affordability was an issue that we all need take

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seriously. I am so pleased to share that over the last near decade, we have made

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tremendous strides in housing, affordability, efforts and the court meeting Council, quite

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frankly, works off of your plans. So your work plan is sort of our on official guide.

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And so all the things that you have in your your work plan are the things that year to

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year. We do. We focus on engaging with elected officials and the business

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leaders and certainly during budget season with members of the board of County

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commissioners to ensure that housing affordability really stays top of mind. The court

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Dayton Council works on all issues at a system level with housing, affordability and

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homelessness being the most critical. But obviously, over the last decade, we've worked

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on census and COVID the MSD shooting Behavioral Health. Really all the issues that

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come up that are recognized to be county wide and need to come out of a specific system

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silo. I also serve on the county's homeless continue of care board. And I am super

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honored to be a gubernatorial appointee to the Florida Housing Finance Corporation

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board of directors. I've served there since 2019 and since 2025 has served as their

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chair. So housing affordability is something that I'm really passionate

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about. While I don't show up to these meetings, I read all of the agendas and I read all

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of the minutes and certainly communicate with many of you. And quite frankly, one of the

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reasons why I never served on the Broward Housing Council was because I felt like I

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could do more, not serving on the board and just being able to communicate with different

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members and work to try and convene. And so I believe that the proposed convening is on

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the agenda for later. So I don't know if anyone has any questions or if anyone has

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anything else. But views an overview. Thank you any questions for Senator?

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>> Seeing none. I know that we are live streaming and made a bit of a foe. Part of just say

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everybody around the table knows what Alice says, but just for the people that are

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tuned in, can you just give a quick explanation? Absolutely. So the United Way publishes a

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report. Alice is an acronym that stands for Asset, Limited Income, constrained and

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employed. >> You can go to United Way Broward's website and read the

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most recent updated Alice report. It is now national. But Broward was one of the

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early adoptees. And Alice is a a great way to really better understand the community.

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Nearly half of Broward County households are Alice or below meaning that nearly half of

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Broward County households could not withstand a $500 financial emergency.

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>> Thank you very much, Sandra. You're welcome stay where you're at because we are

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definitely going to bring you back in the discussion of the Broward Housing Council Fall

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Workshop. When we get to new business, that being said, I would to accept a motion to

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approve the minutes from the June. 26 meeting. Thanks very much. Moved and seconded. Are

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there any corrections or discussion regarding the minutes? Seeing none. All

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those in favor. Please say Any opposed. Thank you very much. The meetings minutes are

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approved. Moving into chair's report being that we are coming out of summer. I know

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that 2 nation and Beth do have reports to give. So I'm going to defer my time to them and

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start with Tunisia with our continuum of care advisory board report.

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>> Thank you. Chair. Good morning, everyone. So my report for to seize really

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brief this morning there, the discussion of the as well. First, to see the homeless

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continuum of care meets monthly. So where this report covers July and August as

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well. The discussion for the last 2, 2, meetings, 2 months has primarily centered on the

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HUD notice of funding, which is about half of the funding source for the homeless

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activities that we see in Broward County. And the conversations has really

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centered conversation has really centered around. That. The funding has been

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litigated. 4 different know, know folks have been released and they have been challenged

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in court. So that's been the primary discussion. And as of yesterday, the decision as to

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whether the funding that existing know for that went out in the summer would be

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funded. It's still pending a decision. So. What I want to percent also to the board

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that. I came out of this month's meeting was the Broward Public Schools. report

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and Hart stands for Homeless Education Assistance Resource Team. I learned about this

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initiative on the H 2, 0, seaboard. And one that one of the data that was reported by

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by the Heart team which focuses on identifying it's a team that identifies. Students

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that are affected by homeless that are either homeless at risk. The numbers were quite

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astonishing where we have. 67 student center currently living in a shelter. 995 that

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are doubled up. Living or 8 have doubled up living arrangement. 57 in living in a

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car. And 100. And 49 students, of course, with their families living in a hotel. So. I had

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to sit with that, too, for a moment. So I just wanted to bring those stat. I know where

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planning our workshop. And I think affordability takes on a has taken on a new dimension.

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With. Given, you know, incomes, rising prices, inventory. So I I present

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this. We've talked about seniors, but we also talk about the rippling effects to

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families. As homelessness, right? Going being a student going to school, doubled up,

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living in a car. So I think it's something, you know, I'm bringing this stat so that we

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include in our conversations, we plan workshops and information that are that

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that's going to be given at our workshop this this November, October. And that

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concludes my report. Thank you very much. To nation. Yes, sir. That make to start again.

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67. 67. Students in a shelter. 995. In a double dip living arrangement. 57 in a living in

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a car and 149 living in a hotel. I also shared the report with sue so she can

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share to the chair. Thank you to nation. What does doubled up. You basically. Double for

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2 families living together. So, for example, let's say, right? Like a time when I move

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in with family or friends, I do want to call it couch surfing. But that's part of

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it. Yeah, us or if they live in family, does that count MS? That's a good question. What

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I've learned Being on the board is that there is a definition for differ for

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homelessness. There's a McKinney, Vento definition. So unhoused being displaced.

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There's segment Haitians of of homelessness. >> So in this case. You

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wouldn't consider that as being unhoused. Again shared living. That is I would say

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involuntary. It's something to be considered that, you know, you have 2 families that are.

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Compelled to live together. That's something that. What I would if I had to define into

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buckets, I would put that at risk. chomping at the bit to give us a.

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>> little more thank you for jumping in here. So 2 things, one, it came for hours. But

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the appellate court yesterday denied the motion to stay. It means that the lower court

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order vacating know fo remains in effect and there's no funding opportunities at this

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time for local SEO seas. We will see what happens in the courts, but that is huge. But

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to what Taneisha said, she's right. So there's 2 definitions. There's the high

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definition of homelessness, which is a very narrow definition of homelessness.

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And then there's the Federal act, which is the McKinney Vento Act, which is geared

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towards families and children and has a much broader definition of homelessness. So

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part of the challenge and serving families in across the country, not just in Broward

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is you might be homeless by definition of the McKinney Vento Act. But you still might

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not qualify for any of the HUD programs because you do not meet the high definition of

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homelessness. So it's why sometimes the data around homeless children, homeless

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families is not. Entirely accurate because it depends on which definition you're using

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and then who's engaging it as another example of McKinney Vento Act. If you live in a

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trailer home that meets the definition of doubling up living in a hotel and living

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in a mobile home or 3 examples that would qualify for homelessness under the

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MCKINNEY-VENTO Act but would not qualify for homelessness under HUD. Michelle, did you

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have a question? >> But I just wanted to comment based on time that

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I've set on committee when my son was in elementary school, in addition to these numbers,

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are those that are not reported, meaning that those students, I just want us to

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really understand that this is these are the ones that filled out the documentation. With

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the truthful information. We found that there are several others and the majority of the

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families did not complete it that way. So we definitely we already knew we were in a

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crisis. I feel like when a tsunami where it's jus overwhelming. And so just to

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hear those numbers, I am. >> Yeah, I agree. It is quite sobering. And when we hear

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those numbers, those are statistics that we talk about. But that part of what I was

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going to to my report before I chose to it sort just to give that time to nation. Beth, I

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had a quick story that I want to tell because I did experience one of these

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families just a few weeks ago at a customer's home. When I went to visit them and they

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had said, you know, we've seen on the ring camera that this car has just been parked out

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front and it's been there day after day after day. It never moves. And I think that

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there's people living in that vehicle. And hearing that I get to get a peek outside and

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sure enough there was whole family that was inside of that car and I approached them

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whole purpose was really introduce to Joseph Kanter and the whole program and to let

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them know that there were resources available and what he was doing for the community

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and people in and their situation. And what was surprising was how defensive

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they became in saying that word or dashing. You know, I don't understand why are why

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are bothering me and that they had a little girl in the backseat. And I just wanted to

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say, I'm here as an advocate for you. I'm here as a friend. you don't have to, you know,

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tell me about the door dash ing thing, your car as it moved in in days. And I

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understand that. I just want you to know the resources that are available and it took them

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a very long time. And it was a very long discussion before they finally warmed up. But

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these are not just numbers. These are real people that we're advocating for and that

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we're hoping so I just want to let you know appreciated the work is that we're all doing

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here. It it whenever we can. We really need to get that word out and make sure that

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people understand that there is hope and that there are avenues that they can that

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they can follow in order to receive the assistance that they need. That being Beth, we

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will move on to what Florida Realtors has been doing. >> Chris and are back from the

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Florida Realtor Summer Convention. Where we introduced a new slate of

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leadership for 2027 and went over a lot of they're not put motion talking points I

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brought home some great information. I'd like to know Could we have someone come

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here and talk about amendment 3? I thought how you explained at.

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>> We certainly could. The next meeting's going to be on October 23rd. So that is going

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to before. Election time. But as far as our well, that's going to be for the work. That

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is the workshop on October 23rd right? On many others has been proposed as a date for

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our workshop. On another note, as far the parameters of this. Council wouldn't be proper

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for. The county body to be having a discussion pre-election on amendment 3

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from. Certain organization that may have a stance one way or another.

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>> answer would be no. I mean, my understanding is, you know, we are allowed to present

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basic facts, but we're we're prohibited from taking any particular position. are

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sponsoring and they did take a stance so that we wouldn't be able to that path.

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>> All right. So a few things that I found to be very exciting I am on the

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affordable housing. Attainable workforce. Housing think tank. And we talked about how many

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families were helped by the hometown heroes. And that. Program has been incredibly

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successful they were saying that 58,000 first-time homebuyers were assisted with

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1.6 billion dollars in mortgage assistance. So that was great the list of

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eligible. People now has been shrunk at one point, it included only first

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responders, health care workers, then kind of opened up to everybody in the world.

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Even a massage therapist. Now has been reduced again back to police fire. First responders,

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medical like that. It is a fabulous program. If you know of anyone who's buying a home.

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Please make sure that you explain or tell them to look up. Hometown heroes. It's it's

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a great program. I found that Gainesville. Has the neediest. I send everything to Suzanne

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this morning. They have free accessory dwelling unit plans on their website. And they're

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fantastic. So that matters because it eliminates that cost. Somebody who wants to

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add a to use. So check out the city of Gainesville website and you could just. At ad used

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to search are. St. Petersburg also has an incredibly successful ad. You program.

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Also on their website. So same, go visit St. Petersburg and look up to use and one

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they're doing. It looks like it's really success. What else do I have? The road to Housing

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Act was signed into law on July. 11th. And this was effort to address a major

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driver of housing affordability. So please. As as members of the council read

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about the 21st Century rode the Housing Act. It's going to be very helpful to all And it

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does also to use. Appraisal changes. We have been able to get to Fannie Mae and they are

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now teaching appraisers how to value up to 3 ad use on a single family property. Which

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is fantastic.

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And on kind of us. A more serious note, rather than cheerful news. Is

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that condominiums reserve requirements are now moving again from 10% to 15%. So this

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again effect a lot of our seniors who are in on, you know, Social Security and

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limited income families on limited income certainly the value. Of the condominiums. it

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a robust meeting. It was a I've been up there. Here's I didn't go this year. I had to

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attend remotely. Chris, was there but ice for me, it was one of the most exciting

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educational meetings we've ever had. Thank you, Beth. Any questions for breath? It's a

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Yes, sir. >> It just wanted to announce on amendment 3, 1, to find

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information and amendment 3 broadly, city's posted released on Wednesday, educate

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on 3, just typing broadly. city's educate on 3. You find information fights about on

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news. Each municipality. Thank you, sir.

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Okay. That being said, we will move on to our directors report with Darby.

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Good morning, everyone. So we have a few things going on yesterday. Unfortunate had to

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jump off part of that. >> We did have a meeting with many of the city's was lead in

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large part by Mr. Stone. Regarding our >> Municipal 4 car dashboard

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to try to keep track of some of the affordable housing projects that are going on to

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that was. could use a believe it or not. We had was pretty good at. But if you didn't

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hear about 30 to 31 individuals from the very stuff of cities tend this is a

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dashboard that basically we're maintaining with inside. Our division. My GIS staff will

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maintain it. And we've given them a the deadline is September 3rd to start getting

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that information in the initial upload of projects that they have. And then

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they'll be just sort of an ongoing. Item that we just continue to maintain. if you

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all recall, this was part of the part Housing Council 2026 work. Program. The division

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itself as a couple of requests for applications that are coming up. We have. Some lands

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that the county currently owns. And we're looking to have them redeveloped or

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affordable housing. One of them was site that was acquired some time ago to

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about 7.3 1 acres. It actually within the city of Fort Lauderdale and its. Within a

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neighborhood of Fort Lauderdale. A lot of the underlying plat have the name

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Rock Island. So were branding this thing as the Rock Island homes. All right. Just off of

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I believe 19th. We've been working closely with the surveyors at Highway

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Construction Engineering Division. And we believe that we have a layout that would

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accommodate somewhere between 35 and 36. Single-family homes. With average lot sizes

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with about frontage of roughly 60 feet in depth of anywhere from 100 to 120 feet and

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death. To be able to pull it off. So the idea with this particular RFA is we would put

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it out there on the street. Developers would on it. And then they would be awarded.

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That land was with certain. Milestones that they have to achieve or that development,

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including a rezoning. And what have you it is necessary. We have worked out with Fort

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Lauderdale. What that path would look like for the redevelopment. So that.

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Whoever acquires property understands exactly what they're doing for lower

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understands and anticipates getting this. So that's that's one of the projects that will

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be a good one because that'll actually lend itself to actual home ownership. And I think I

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think we were talking about doing the traditional 15 year, the fort ability on on this

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type of product. The other one that we're looking at, we internally called to Wheeler

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partially because those were the 2 pre prior owners of these properties. This one is

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actually within Broward Municipal Services District. This one is on the northwest

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corner of 27th Avenue insist trunk is. This was roughly about 2 acres. It actually was

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initially a little bit smaller. But one of the things we were able to do is working

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again through Highway Construction engineering division in Britain, highways

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require additional lots that fronted along 20th Avenue, which were originally

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purchased. When they were doing the improvements to says Trump Boulevard, it was

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initially anticipated that those lots are going to use for drainage. Will we

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discovered they weren't. We were able to loop this whole thing into one larger

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property. Like I said about too 0, 0, 8, acres. And so this one, again, we're going

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to do the request for applications. It'll be a good deal where we give the land.

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That will be part of gap financing, if you will. And on this one, what we would be

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looking for sort of a combination development. So for the corner piece, the

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original Wheeler Arsal a few. Well. We would look to 2 some type of a mixed use

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development right? So that you have a modest commercial footprint. think we're

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estimating somewhere around 3 to 4,000 Square feet and then units above that, whether new

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3, 4, 5, You know, that's really going to become of a function of architecture. I

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penciled it out. And I'm anticipating we could probably get somewhere in the range of

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about 30 40 units, depending on how you count that. And then for those lots that line

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on. Systrom Boulevard portion which would be more narrow. We would then contemplate a

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purchase product of a townhome construction. So in the Bm St we actually have coach called

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Garden Park, which is granted after the names of the 4 neighborhoods in that area.

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Which would then allow for this town home tech construction, which would look

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almost like a stoop construction, meaning that you have, you know, a nice

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fronting on the 27th Avenue with porches, you know, elevated above 3 or 4 feet

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above the height of the sidewalk. And then all of your parking would be towards 2 or

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so would really present a nice sort of face to that. That particular street. We were I

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know. There's a lot of moving parts with this. Our original hope was trying to get these.

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These 2 are phased out. In September. We're working through just ESP, the Office

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of Economic and small businesses issues have to go in there and then

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particularly with Parsley project. We're going to incorporate a sort of

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applause, a site plan review when he's applications come in to make sure that whatever

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they're presenting, that it's something that the zoning code would actually accommodate.

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And so hopefully we can get these out in September. But we may be pushed to October for

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the advertising of some of these items. The desirability would be that some time when

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rolling into the new year 2027, we'll be at or near the awarding phase for these

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phase. Outside of that. Of course, we are. in the funding cycle for the next round of

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ship dollars which were issued in July. And forgive me with the coming budget. Not

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everyone. We're looking at another allocation. Or cdbg home and the esg The grants

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that we just got on. Chip side, which, you know, keep in mind that. You know, we only

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do a portion of the county. Is around 2 and a half million dollars. And then the

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allocation that we're anticipating. Or the other 3 grant funded programs. Is at

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about 8.1 million dollars. So. And a half going into the till to be able to use principally

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for purchase assistance and homeownership repair. Some of those, you know, based on the

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city's that we work with, some of that might be infrastructure as well Tuesday

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to support those neighborhoods that are in need. And then, of course, you've heard me say

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before I think we recently got our some of our comments back are on the cusp of getting

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your comments back on the community development block. Grant disaster relief. One

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that was based back on the 23 storm. And that one's about. 29 Million. 29 Million. routes

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going to get a big chunk of that about 12 and half million to apply. Projects that are

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going to have 70 unit or more. We're going to take some housing finance trust money

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about a million dollars combined 5 and a half million of this cdbg, DR money, which

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projects that 70 units or fewer. And then I think we're doing we still have about I

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think 6 million in infrastructure in there and those are probably some of the

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biggest pots of money that we're looking coming from that ad. Here's it's doing more

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than that. But that some of the big stuff that we're looking at. The the catch with

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the cdbg, Dr. Just so, you know, it really has to have some kind of tied back to the

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23 storm. And with that, that is the director's report. Questions. Thank you, thank

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you. Darby. >> About zoning hurdles for the one project you are

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talking about. Can we not use live local? Just understand that.

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>> Live local in and of itself is vehicle too enable? Development to sort of avoid a

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rezoning process. It it doesn't in and of itself. Eliminate the need to rely

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upon a zoning provision, right? So when we contemplate, for instance, the first

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project, the Rock Island homes, wouldn't be eligible because it it's not really

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commercially so late. It's not going to have a commercial type of footprint. Now someone

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could come in, let's say, do an unsolicited and proposal live local project. And at the

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end of the day, what would what would happen is we would look at with their proposal is

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and then we would scour across what is within a half-mile of what zoning provision would be

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the most likely to apply and then they would use the very same Joni provision. I just

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mention to you, we would we would do that. What I believe a lot of governments are doing

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and some of the developers are well, they may be coming forth with live local and developing

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these things because of the expeditious manner in which they can get these approved.

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And sometimes zoning codes are already aligned with what they want. But a lot of cities are

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saying, okay, that's great. But understand, you know, live local comes with a 30 year,

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whatever ending date, why didn't we just go ahead and rezone anyway? So that? You

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know, go ahead with the live local. Go ahead with your project. But let's do the

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rezoning anyways. Just so that we know we have a predictable set of development guidelines

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that, you know, 4 years out when we are, you know, looking at okay of businesses coming

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into businesses going out. There is a redevelopment effort. There's of this.

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There's a that was a code enforcement action so that there's something that you

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can. Measurably manage that property by And I think it serves in my humble opinion.

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Everybody better in that regard. Okay. answer. For Nobody on I the 2 acre to 70

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cup property you contemplate and nonprofit for-profit developer or does it matter?

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All that matters because it's a it'll go through the RFA process. It there's not I

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don't believe that there's a value in whether it's a nonprofit for-profit for us.

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Its an affordable housing project in. That's what that developers going to have to

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deliver. That's what it would be written into that declaration of restrictive

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covenants. And then, you know, all the milestones that they're going to have to

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achieve in order to deliver that product or else that gets, you know, clawed back,

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OK, so then sit a follow-up question. I heard you saying given the property

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>> in other words will be in any kind market value, anything involving the that

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deal without pain. Whatever else would that be a case? It does doesn't have to right,

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OK? >> Right. the concept here is, but the land becomes the gap

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deal. Reichard and then you know it because in case of the Rock island homes, it then it

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may be incumbent upon Fort Lauderdale if they want step. In addition, Ali, to apply

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their own purchase assistance to individual owners, which would just be sort of like a

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bonus. We did that. I should really kind of throw this back at route because he did this.

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In the Bm St where we had in our last go around and he's done total around 100 of

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these. But the last go around. It was 12 where we had 12 lot. And we in this particular

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case, we did it with with not profits where we gave them the land. That was to get finance

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t I think we actually through another 50 grand for article and prep and then we came back

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on the buyer side with purchase assistance. But again, because this is for or

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they get significant allocation, you know, it'll be incumbent upon them to follow

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up on that other side. Great to 10. >> So that exactly the reason

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why I asked the question because I remember the requirement back forward was

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for nonprofit that which ends goes to Mike next recommendation of private.

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Some to think about. We talked earlier about dashboard for many spots is too low things

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in. I think it's it will be something to think about to start working with

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municipalities. Justice he said would put a lot can do something, puts U.S.

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assistance where we can do the same thing. That was by just going do the same thing.

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properties like that getting some and will use getting some des agreement that well, but

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just distance will be available if you do these. And I think that's something to

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think about and start working with MS policies Of course, as you know, my city did similar.

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So, you know, that will make the dashboard more robust, hopefully in the future. start

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having this collaboration. So strongly encourage that. Was thinking about that? Because

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responses do have land that they can do the same exact thing. they're short, that

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they will be assistance. >> I've determine so yeah. one of the things that we've done

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because we you know, we also have our division, we have real estate so for instance.

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You know, we have every 3 years we have to put up the list of properties available

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for before housing. So there we had a few lots that were in Oakland Park. So we're, you

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know, basically often those over to that they can do for housing with that, we're about

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to put up a new list. We're going to a bunch. Lots of Fort Lauderdale. Florida has a

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punch. A lot to be a mistake. So one of my desires that we get involved, a land swap with

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them, give us to be a nasty ones. Give you the full are the ones and lets lets you

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this. When you have more control over those properties, do the affordable housing

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piece and we know will be in the bms team. We have an interest in doing more

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affordable housing in mst, single-family home purchase type, which know, a big

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portion of the properties that we actually have in surplus. >> It's quick question. I have

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if we discuss Affordability crisis, these project. When competition, the finish. What

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will be the criteria would be based on buying or rent to. How would it work?

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>> Well, for the Rock Island home, that will be that will be a buyer program, right? So

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that will be. Yeah. The single-family homes. That will be a buyer scenario. With the

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Wheeler Aracely the one in the unincorporated neighborhood that's going to be a

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combination. right now with contemplated is that the town home portion of the

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development would a purchase. In probably some kind of H.O.A. or something set up

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manage that. And then the mixed use peas would likely be a rental just because of the

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complications associated with. A mixed use type development. You know It's a lot to sort of

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straddle on just a run of the Mill H.O.A. to also all of the now become a commercial.

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Landlord, if you will. So so we're looking at that that model there so that we can we

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can provide 2 options for folks. Our neighborhood. Is there

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>> target audio. What? What am I would you anticipate might be the purchaser say the rock

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island. And I think the rock on we doing one 20 and that when are we going, we're doing

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one 20. And then the broader question is that's great. All the efforts are. Are

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wonderful. But if we hear from Sandy that some people, 50% of the population can't sustain a

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$500 set back. And we have people living in cars that are reported with some consistency

404
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should there be an overall arch for this group to says to suggest names of the county

405
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commission, a focus on? Fund allocations policies. The needs at 120% and 60%. But

406
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there's also obviously needs at the bottom tier. are we just going to be universal in

407
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trying to hit? Every category of income deed. The per income category. Or should we be more

408
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focused? Well, so it lends itself to a much broader conversation, one of which the

409
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:51,478
county commission in Ruston in particular have have been engaged You know, so we when

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we look at. Our phase, it, discussing today that sharing with you. Obviously, many of

411
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these are probably gonna hit sort of that. >> But 80 2 to one 20 range

412
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right? But to your point, there are other people who, you know, is there not

413
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necessarily, you know, individuals who would qualify for. The homeless assistance

414
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center that we have on sunrise and and 7th. But can't necessarily get themselves

415
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into some type of subsidized market housing right? And so, you know, one of the things

416
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that the commission has asked us to explore. The idea of what other type housing can we

417
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secure? You know, pallet housing. Is it? You know, taking over in renovating the

418
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,873
old, you know, motels or hotels that have come up for sale. That, you know, they

419
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become a manage project I think Dade County does something similar. They have a

420
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property where they've they've done this. Where, you know, you're not in crisis mode and

421
00:44:02,882 --> 00:44:08,870
you're not the appropriate population to go into the crisis mode. Housing. Can't go

422
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into the one where your rent going to be expected to be at around 1700. But you may be

423
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you can swing 8, 9, 100 a month or whatever the number might be. These are other

424
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items that that we're exploring. And we're we're taking a look at obviously,

425
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you know, some of these things. You are going to require significant capital

426
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,579
outlay, not just simply in the purchase of the land and the building itself, but then also

427
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what kind of retro fit to we have to do with the property. And then, you know, how does

428
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management structure of these types facilities actually function? Because each it's

429
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one thing to think that, you know, you just going to telling news people in it,

430
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let's say, but you still have to maintain a still have operate You know, there are

431
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many other things that still have to kind of happened here. And I think you know that when

432
00:44:59,805 --> 00:45:05,411
we talk about the number November 3rd, you ballot initiative, we don't even know

433
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what our financial footing is going to be then. So we're actively exploring that

434
00:45:08,547 --> 00:45:17,223
question right? And I think ultimately. As we progress and we start seeing some of these

435
00:45:17,223 --> 00:45:19,759
properties come available and we start asking ourselves some of these questions. And then

436
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we get past November 3rd and we understand what our financial footing is. We'll

437
00:45:22,962 --> 00:45:28,700
then be able to the more thoughtful as we sort of approach these decisions

438
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because is the county commission has expressed on more than one occasion and

439
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advocated by Mr. Stone. There is a real need. Within that regard and that that

440
00:45:40,646 --> 00:45:46,385
particular target population that you've identified. Mr. just follow up real quickly

441
00:45:46,385 --> 00:45:52,385
that there is. >> Not coincidentally, pretty nice balance between. The

442
00:45:54,460 --> 00:46:01,600
funding that the board puts toward the homelessness program. Neighborhood, home

443
00:46:03,736 --> 00:46:05,805
ownership and home repair programs which are supported by the 3 grants block grant

444
00:46:05,805 --> 00:46:13,946
ship. And then the Gap program in the bond programs I'm involved in. So. General, you

445
00:46:13,946 --> 00:46:22,346
can say that there around 25 million dollars for each of those strategies. The the

446
00:46:22,354 --> 00:46:27,270
important part of the gap program in the bond programs is when you're doing the

447
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:35,168
bonds, are you that asked for programs you're getting down to cohorts that are 30% below

448
00:46:35,168 --> 00:46:39,439
up to a person blow, but generally between 16, 30. So you're getting. That very low

449
00:46:39,439 --> 00:46:47,480
renter. At a level that can sustain their wages that no more than 30% of their income,

450
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:54,254
which means they're not cause burn. You know, that's the program. Senator and I were

451
00:46:54,254 --> 00:46:59,793
involved in kicking off back in 2018. We're marching towards 6,000 units and

452
00:46:59,793 --> 00:47:05,532
200 million dollars and get financing. Is leverage almost a billion dollars in capital

453
00:47:05,532 --> 00:47:13,332
investment programs like it's a nice balance. People. get involved in the strategies.

454
00:47:14,742 --> 00:47:19,613
They're there is the homelessness peas people transition into housing. The

455
00:47:19,613 --> 00:47:24,285
rental program. And then the homeownership stuff. balance between those 3. questions

456
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aren't. the coroner property of the sis trunk and 27th Ave. The the mixed use. Art. Could

457
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not be higher. And then accommodate more and there's an additional addition to that

458
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:58,910
is on single-family home. Lots that we have. Could we think about building one single

459
00:47:59,530 --> 00:48:04,453
family home and 3 ad use on that property. >> So

460
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>> fun times ahead and make clear was the 9 years I've spent to says owning

461
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administrator for the city of Hollywood. >> And

462
00:48:16,737 --> 00:48:24,745
>> one of the things you learn really quickly and that the clear type of job. Everybody

463
00:48:24,745 --> 00:48:30,417
has a different idea as to what has to happen on a particular property. And one

464
00:48:30,417 --> 00:48:35,289
of the biggest voices in that conversation are the people who live nearby. And every

465
00:48:35,289 --> 00:48:42,290
politician or I should say almost every politician is very sensitive to that

466
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:48,101
particular conversation. So when we think about, for instance, the Rock Island home

467
00:48:48,101 --> 00:48:58,101
right? Ralph and had kicker and a number of different ideas as to what we could are

468
00:48:58,179 --> 00:49:06,579
are couldn't accomplish there. But ultimately the where we landed. Was a reflection of

469
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:13,661
what was expressed through the neighborhood through the political body as to what

470
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would be desirable and accepted. And if you look at that community and when we put

471
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together the lots. We put together the lot in such a way that is reflective of how the

472
00:49:26,473 --> 00:49:32,345
rest of that community is laid out. So, you know, the zoning is the is reflected in the

473
00:49:32,345 --> 00:49:40,888
expectations of the community. That same thing applies towards to be am St. So when

474
00:49:40,888 --> 00:49:48,280
when I created this Garden Park Autry Development Code. It was created in close

475
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:54,568
communication with the community to understand what it was that they were willing

476
00:49:54,568 --> 00:49:59,390
to accept concept of redevelopment with in your neighborhood, right? So you

477
00:49:59,390 --> 00:50:05,579
could we force upon them hired an to use? Yes. And often times when you do that, what

478
00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:10,183
you find is a backlash. And then you end up with even less. And I will tell you, I

479
00:50:10,183 --> 00:50:18,192
saw that happen. And when I was there a term Palmetto Bay. You know, and I I warned the

480
00:50:18,192 --> 00:50:22,463
city manager. Then if you do this, there's going to be a backlash. And so we got some

481
00:50:22,463 --> 00:50:25,332
of the initial stuff built that I said that this is what the community's going to

482
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tolerate. And in the moment the one project came in that I told him that the community

483
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won't tolerate a completely eliminated the code. Now nothing there gets built.

484
00:50:35,209 --> 00:50:37,210
Zoning to reflection of what the community wants. I understand and that's

485
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respectful. Any further questions. >> Seeing none. I do have a

486
00:50:46,886 --> 00:50:50,290
couple in regards to the mixed use property. We're talking about townhomes were talking

487
00:50:50,290 --> 00:50:56,290
about commercial, a commercial portion. >> And the potential for the

488
00:50:59,499 --> 00:51:05,906
mix to rentals above. Is it possible too, Bill that has a condominium style project as

489
00:51:05,906 --> 00:51:11,645
opposed to an H.O.A.. You're talking about the mixed use. One up.

490
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>> I mean, the simple answer is yes, we could do that. It's it just becomes a. A much more

491
00:51:17,785 --> 00:51:23,123
complicated project. And in Mr. Stone that we had a conversation about just a

492
00:51:23,123 --> 00:51:28,328
couple months ago because Dade done something similar. You know, legally, you can find a

493
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path. But this is this is the one thing. You know, I want you to also take into

494
00:51:35,202 --> 00:51:40,140
consideration right now. The current market. We have as much as we like homeownership,

495
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:44,211
the current work. We have really favors. It weighs pricing. The waste can sing.

496
00:51:44,211 --> 00:51:52,190
really favors that could push that aside for one 0nd. Okay. Think about. Across the

497
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:59,360
entire. Broad spectrum of Broward County, an H.O.A. Ys and how how they effectively

498
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:07,760
manage. Getting the the community pool cleaned. The curbs fixed the grass cut. Now

499
00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:16,910
we're going to ask a very small community group become a commercial landlord. And it

500
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:19,713
becomes a very partial landlord. You could sell those commercial units as commercial

501
00:52:19,713 --> 00:52:28,255
condominium units. I think you think complicated even further by doing that. I think it

502
00:52:28,255 --> 00:52:32,125
becomes a very challenging product. You can be done. Right? I mean, it certainly

503
00:52:32,125 --> 00:52:40,488
can be done, but just has a layer of complexity to the project. That could slow the

504
00:52:40,488 --> 00:52:44,425
whole thing down. You know, because as as it currently stands, you know, many of

505
00:52:44,425 --> 00:52:47,962
these developers may not have the incentive to move forward with it because they're trying

506
00:52:47,962 --> 00:52:50,632
to find a way to get this thing. The pencil out. And has a condo product that may not

507
00:52:50,632 --> 00:52:56,320
work. Another question is in regards >> The 15 year affordability

508
00:53:01,842 --> 00:53:09,117
component that would be in the restrictive covenants of Rock Island homes can you explain

509
00:53:09,117 --> 00:53:13,321
to the group why it would be a 15 year? Affordability component. Not something

510
00:53:13,321 --> 00:53:20,127
that's a longer term. I'm gonna I'm gonna put that one over Mr. mean, I've been part

511
00:53:20,127 --> 00:53:25,400
of the conversations, but >> he's been really in the weeds on this one. And I think

512
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,337
it's important to hear from him on this. >> Yes, so he's historically

513
00:53:29,337 --> 00:53:34,609
we've been kind of around the world on the program, but about probably going on 15

514
00:53:34,609 --> 00:53:42,409
years ago. Now. Ford made a conscious decision that they wanted to balance

515
00:53:43,484 --> 00:53:50,684
>> the notion of the affordability period with wealth building. So on the

516
00:53:51,492 --> 00:53:53,294
rental side now were up around. We get a 99 year. Affordability periods a

517
00:53:53,294 --> 00:53:59,968
minimum of 50, but one in this last round of the RFA, the for projects that were funded all

518
00:53:59,968 --> 00:54:07,108
check to 99 Bucks as a one point. So. That's good. We're we're really extending on the

519
00:54:07,108 --> 00:54:09,644
rebel side on the home ownership side. The decision was to balance. Period of time

520
00:54:09,644 --> 00:54:15,316
that we would have it available to affordable family against the wealth building

521
00:54:15,316 --> 00:54:21,916
effect of that ownership. Strategy. makes sense. Thank you for that.

522
00:54:23,657 --> 00:54:29,864
>> And then just a comment mixed income of the. Of the leased property rentals that

523
00:54:29,864 --> 00:54:39,864
are going to be a 27 consist Rick, is there a? mixed income requirement for that I spent

524
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:48,416
17 years living Toronto where that became a wave worthy the city commission it's a scape

525
00:54:48,416 --> 00:54:54,222
in me now because they don't call them counties. The region but stress on there being

526
00:54:54,222 --> 00:55:01,229
mixed income just. Because of the effect that it had on the community to have people who

527
00:55:01,229 --> 00:55:06,501
are extremely low income living in the same building with people that were at, you

528
00:55:06,501 --> 00:55:14,301
know, various and Mize. Because it creates opportunity for many income classes that

529
00:55:16,844 --> 00:55:20,314
are in that building where your next door neighbor, maybe somebody who has, you know, a

530
00:55:20,314 --> 00:55:27,788
fantastic job that could you know, having that relationship with a neighbor, provide

531
00:55:27,788 --> 00:55:31,993
future opportunities for that takes a little bit of stress off of the government and

532
00:55:31,993 --> 00:55:36,864
government programs and really provides a pathway for that person, too. Know somebody

533
00:55:36,864 --> 00:55:41,535
that happens to be the next door neighbor in the same building and they can, you

534
00:55:41,535 --> 00:55:49,543
know, all boats rise with the Tide speak. So a couple thoughts on that. The the

535
00:55:49,543 --> 00:55:54,682
simple answer is this project is in onto plate. Okay. We're setting aside a certain number

536
00:55:54,682 --> 00:56:03,290
for 30, 60. important. It doesn't do Be frank on that part. In the in the planning

537
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:09,697
parlance, when we talk about this concept of you know, not having just, you know, this

538
00:56:09,697 --> 00:56:13,434
enclave, a very wealthy enclave, very poor. When we look at this particular

539
00:56:13,434 --> 00:56:23,340
project. This one. It sounds like a dance project, but it really isn't. You know, when

540
00:56:23,578 --> 00:56:30,718
we putting this thing out to bid our anticipation. Or one of the criteria that we're

541
00:56:30,718 --> 00:56:35,390
putting into the RFA. We haven't kind of settled on the number yet. We're probably

542
00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:40,394
going to say something in the tune of maybe 40 45 units. I've penciled it out in my

543
00:56:40,394 --> 00:56:46,994
rudimentary architectural skills. That I learned in high school, not college.

544
00:56:48,269 --> 00:56:52,206
>> Got got me to it. Got me to about 50 units really sort of oppression. The threshold I

545
00:56:52,206 --> 00:56:55,943
think of an architect, got a hold of it. >> And really kind dug into

546
00:56:55,943 --> 00:56:59,947
the code. Maybe they'll get us more. Maybe look at its last were giving him bonus points

547
00:56:59,947 --> 00:57:03,951
for every additional you take. above that number but at the end of the day, it's not it's

548
00:57:03,951 --> 00:57:12,893
not. And credibly. Tension it's not a of units there. Where I think we would be

549
00:57:12,893 --> 00:57:19,767
effective in strata. Fine. You know, the sort of ranges that you might anticipate. So it

550
00:57:19,767 --> 00:57:24,972
takes. And I forget what the the total ranges on. don't know if we were a tier one, 20

551
00:57:24,972 --> 00:57:30,711
as the case may be. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's just too small to try to accomplish

552
00:57:30,711 --> 00:57:39,111
that. Not if I want to keep my job. >> No. Go ahead. And recruits

553
00:57:44,125 --> 00:57:48,796
have dropped or anybody. The top line a little bit. But by. Having mandatory make staying

554
00:57:48,796 --> 00:57:55,996
calm. Florida quantifiable benefits from that, right. So you hope that somebody

555
00:57:56,671 --> 00:58:00,808
assimilate and to a higher role of productivity from professionalism, too financial

556
00:58:00,808 --> 00:58:06,747
investment, whatever it might be in life's way I haven't seen any studies on that that

557
00:58:06,747 --> 00:58:12,860
that works and where I get a little bit perplexed by that is. housing authority

558
00:58:12,860 --> 00:58:19,560
perspective. We have to small area, fair market rent. So we have 23 have a one better move

559
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,696
on and it could all have different reimbursements to landlord from our site subsidy

560
00:58:22,696 --> 00:58:31,973
from our side. We now have we have 6,000 people out there. Receiving subsidy. But we have

561
00:58:31,973 --> 00:58:38,112
7 now that received over $7,000 a month and subsidy. Live in some of the western

562
00:58:38,112 --> 00:58:43,650
suburbs. That's a that's good or bad. At same 6 pensive and I haven't seen a greater level

563
00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:47,605
of assimilation access to social services, access to career, better health care,

564
00:58:47,605 --> 00:58:51,809
better education. I haven't seen the attainment goals achieved or at least

565
00:58:51,809 --> 00:59:00,551
quantified by having. Having this forest mixed income model where ICU or best is in

566
00:59:00,551 --> 00:59:05,422
communities Metro Lines. Anybody live next. Anybody if they can get to work easily to

567
00:59:05,422 --> 00:59:08,426
metro liner in Boston Philadelphia here in New York City. People live with

568
00:59:08,426 --> 00:59:15,433
anybody. In car communities. I find there's a greater hesitancy, but a lot of people

569
00:59:15,433 --> 00:59:21,839
to reside in communities already have that forest. Disparity of incomes. When a

570
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:25,776
car community, if they lose the privilege of waking up in the morning. But the Metro

571
00:59:25,776 --> 00:59:30,715
South, that proximity to a metro will cause people to live with anybody. you had an

572
00:59:30,715 --> 00:59:34,318
option, get in your car to say I don't want to lose the right to drive an hour and Let's

573
00:59:34,318 --> 00:59:40,524
just I haven't seen studies that support. Next thing Com for social goals. But I'd be

574
00:59:40,524 --> 00:59:45,796
curious and read them. >> And full transparency that was years and years ago when I

575
00:59:45,796 --> 00:59:50,601
lived there don't know if there was anything quite a viable that they produced. was

576
00:59:50,601 --> 00:59:58,342
just and idea when those a building boom going on and they were trying to avoid

577
00:59:58,342 --> 01:00:05,483
building affordable housing communities that we're just going to end up becoming it.

578
01:00:05,483 --> 01:00:08,686
Yeah, for for lack of better word. The projects the way that the New York made a

579
01:00:08,686 --> 01:00:14,492
mistake in building some of those projects. >> Yes. And then my final

580
01:00:14,492 --> 01:00:20,970
comment on that because we're landlord is well. When spots ability to enforce Ali. So

581
01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:24,968
before you get the project owners have responsibility to enforce Lisa, people don't

582
01:00:24,968 --> 01:00:28,439
comply. You remove those tended to preserve your property. He served humanity

583
01:00:28,439 --> 01:00:34,244
of the place that you call home and all those sort of things. A lot of things.

584
01:00:34,244 --> 01:00:38,115
Simply because tend have a resident focus and say residents are on the property

585
01:00:38,115 --> 01:00:45,315
where I would say there's an equal management landlords, unfortunately says absolutely.

586
01:00:46,791 --> 01:00:51,128
>> Okay. Any other comments or questions for Darby seeing none. Thank you very much.

587
01:00:51,128 --> 01:00:59,300
Into new business. This is our task at hand for the day. You will see a second handout

588
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:04,875
outside from your agenda. I know. Beth, thank you very much for running the June

589
01:01:04,875 --> 01:01:09,480
meeting as I was absent. But I know that she did pass on the message that this meeting was

590
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:15,953
really going to be dialing down everything that we need to as far as FEMA location and

591
01:01:15,953 --> 01:01:22,292
then speakers as well and having that discussion for the fall workshop. So that is our

592
01:01:22,292 --> 01:01:30,234
task at hand. Sandra had put up. Thank you for putting that on the screen. Sandra had

593
01:01:30,234 --> 01:01:35,439
supplied us with an idea that she's come up with 4 the fall housing workshop and I would

594
01:01:35,439 --> 01:01:38,376
love it you'd like to go through this with us and let us know what your ideas were.

595
01:01:38,376 --> 01:01:44,849
Sure. Thank you so. >> The coordinating Council, Broward as a shared previously

596
01:01:44,849 --> 01:01:48,785
housing affordability is one of our top issues. So every year we either have an event

597
01:01:48,785 --> 01:01:53,857
or last year, we did a series of online workshops this year. Kind of got away from us. And

598
01:01:53,857 --> 01:01:57,928
we were looking at a fall day to do our workshop. And in speaking with Ralph, we

599
01:01:57,928 --> 01:02:03,934
discussed the fact that you all to help fall workshop in lieu of having 2 different

600
01:02:03,934 --> 01:02:08,939
workshops where we are probably going to be touching on similar things. I thought

601
01:02:08,939 --> 01:02:14,144
that it might be more beneficial if we just joined forces and had an event

602
01:02:14,144 --> 01:02:19,550
together. So I wanted to just kind of go through what we had proposed for all of you and

603
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:26,290
the rationale behind it for discussion and for your approval. We we're going to

604
01:02:26,290 --> 01:02:29,760
have opening remarks from County Commissioner Hayes. All Rogers as she serves on this

605
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:36,567
board, we thought that that would be nice, of course, by then the information from

606
01:02:36,567 --> 01:02:39,169
doctor Ned Murray and his team at EFI you for the updated affordable housing needs

607
01:02:39,169 --> 01:02:47,578
assessment will be available. So we wanted to start it off with Dr. Murray's presentation

608
01:02:47,578 --> 01:02:55,978
and the unveiling of the overdue heated municipal score card that we are really

609
01:02:56,654 --> 01:03:02,727
excited about. And then we wanted to really break it out into 2 panel presentations.

610
01:03:02,727 --> 01:03:06,663
2026 really reflects a decade of sort of that shift in housing advocacy and really

611
01:03:06,663 --> 01:03:12,202
moving away from what used to be just kind of the usual suspects coming around half.

612
01:03:12,202 --> 01:03:15,940
Michelle remembers those days. There was a lot. Well, a lot less of a sitting around and

613
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:20,877
talking about housing, affordability. And so 2016 in the Coordinating Council,

614
01:03:20,877 --> 01:03:26,616
really, I think sort of took that took that off-ramp of what had historically been

615
01:03:26,616 --> 01:03:31,416
housing, affordability, advocacy and really purposefully engage the

616
01:03:32,355 --> 01:03:36,894
business community and really purposefully engaged a broader group of stakeholders and

617
01:03:36,894 --> 01:03:41,298
cute, including again, health and human services and economic development. The

618
01:03:41,298 --> 01:03:44,367
Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance and the Broward Workshop, et cetera, et

619
01:03:44,367 --> 01:03:50,174
cetera. And so we thought that it would be great to really reflect on where we've come,

620
01:03:50,174 --> 01:03:55,712
what we've done and how we're doing it. So panel won the first or the second session

621
01:03:55,712 --> 01:04:01,852
was named from vision to reality. How affordable housing deals get done in

622
01:04:01,852 --> 01:04:06,857
Broward. We are long past having to explain what housing affordability means or why

623
01:04:06,857 --> 01:04:12,263
it's important and really want folks to be able to walk away with new valuable, relevant

624
01:04:12,263 --> 01:04:19,463
and timely information. The suggested panelists again, bring together a broad sector

625
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:27,100
of both business and government. We put a little overview there and some

626
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,547
discussion topics and then session 3 would be looking ahead. The next chapter for

627
01:04:29,547 --> 01:04:36,747
housing in Broward. Again, a group of both. Nonprofit for-profit and government

628
01:04:39,230 --> 01:04:42,293
partners. Chris, we would hope that we were hoping that you would go ahead and moderate

629
01:04:42,293 --> 01:04:48,565
that panel and and then we wanted to close it out. For those of you that are not

630
01:04:48,565 --> 01:04:53,704
familiar in Miami-Dade County, the University of Miami runs a program for the last decade.

631
01:04:53,704 --> 01:04:58,391
It's a community scholars and affordable housing program. They've been doing it for the

632
01:04:58,391 --> 01:05:02,995
last decade. Michelle is familiar with that. She's not in her head. We wanted to

633
01:05:02,995 --> 01:05:06,865
provide an opportunity for that for that team to have. You know, again, we gave them

634
01:05:06,865 --> 01:05:11,737
15 minutes to share it in the hopes that we might be able to engage some folks from Broward

635
01:05:11,737 --> 01:05:16,809
County to participate in the next cohort. Each cohort is 12 people. Again, it's been

636
01:05:16,809 --> 01:05:22,481
around for decades of. They've graduated over 120 leaders. It is a much more in-depth

637
01:05:22,481 --> 01:05:28,154
program. Miami homes for all is one of their partners. It had previously funded by

638
01:05:28,154 --> 01:05:35,940
banks, including I know JP Morgan Chase. And so we wanted to see what the appetite was

639
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:39,966
in Broward. I know I don't want to do this for ever and we want to make sure that we

640
01:05:39,966 --> 01:05:46,972
are continuing to provide opportunities for the next group of leaders. Again,

641
01:05:46,972 --> 01:05:49,508
business nonprofit faith-based, you know, you'd be will definitely be a part

642
01:05:49,508 --> 01:05:57,716
of conversations. 2, 3, but really just trying to open up and expand the umbrella of

643
01:05:57,716 --> 01:06:03,122
people that are really educated in the nuance of housing, affordability. And I

644
01:06:03,122 --> 01:06:07,126
really, you know, and nomenclature is important. And so I say housing

645
01:06:07,126 --> 01:06:12,198
affordability, not affordable housing because we really want people to understand that this

646
01:06:12,198 --> 01:06:17,136
is an economic concept and not end product. So Ford will housing could be an end

647
01:06:17,136 --> 01:06:20,806
product. Housing affordability is the economic concept that if you want to be a healthy

648
01:06:20,806 --> 01:06:25,744
consumer and the economy, you cannot be spending more than 30% of your household income

649
01:06:25,744 --> 01:06:30,816
on housing. Regardless on what that is. But we know that it's a lot more nuance than an

650
01:06:30,816 --> 01:06:35,888
article or a meme or a hashtag. And we really want to do the best that we can

651
01:06:35,888 --> 01:06:41,960
without having to replicate efforts. Right? So if we don't have to stand up this own

652
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,963
effort in Broward and we can just play off of something that's already existing. We

653
01:06:44,963 --> 01:06:51,504
saw that there would be a benefit to that. And then, of course, closing it out from

654
01:06:51,504 --> 01:06:57,109
Senator Nan Rich who also serves on the board of county commissioners and certainly

655
01:06:57,109 --> 01:07:03,783
has been the ultimate champion of housing affordability over the last decade and Broward.

656
01:07:03,783 --> 01:07:09,654
>> Well, thank you so much for that. Quick question is in regards to the lineup.

657
01:07:09,654 --> 01:07:12,324
Fantastic speakers. I think the majority of us know every person who is on this list.

658
01:07:12,324 --> 01:07:22,134
I've worked with several of them and no of the rest. Have they approached and are they?

659
01:07:22,134 --> 01:07:24,403
>> Confirmed for the event that, you know, we wanted to make sure that we had buy-in

660
01:07:24,403 --> 01:07:30,900
from this group first. I mean, again, most of them are. If you approve it today by the

661
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:34,413
end of the day come back and say of Hardy confirmed half of them many of them, we've

662
01:07:34,413 --> 01:07:39,819
already sort of spoken to and softball. Hey, it's coming up for discussion. But we wanted

663
01:07:39,819 --> 01:07:42,955
to wait until we had you're buying on the agenda and then certainly working with county

664
01:07:42,955 --> 01:07:49,428
staff to identify a date and location. But, you know, we could swap everyone

665
01:07:49,428 --> 01:07:52,970
replaceable. So anyone that can't make it, we could certainly bring someone else

666
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:57,770
in. But I'm fairly confident that everyone would be pleased to be a part of this.

667
01:07:57,770 --> 01:08:03,509
>> Well, this is a late-summer birthday gift. I think that this is fantastic.

668
01:08:03,509 --> 01:08:09,582
>> do. I know, Beth, and as you guys in the June to come back with ideas. Does anybody

669
01:08:09,582 --> 01:08:14,530
have ideas that complement this or is is there something here that you think could be

670
01:08:14,530 --> 01:08:18,391
massaged her change her. Any ideas that you brought to the table today that you would

671
01:08:18,391 --> 01:08:24,391
like to discuss. Dig into details. What you present. >> rough

672
01:08:31,804 --> 01:08:36,675
>> I think Senator did a great job it. Putting a the program the center full Cross section

673
01:08:36,675 --> 01:08:43,482
and the the individuals are really community leaders, both on the nonprofit and

674
01:08:43,482 --> 01:08:50,423
government development side. I think it and rolling out the you just month that I just got

675
01:08:50,423 --> 01:08:56,562
the final copy of last week. Just some really interesting information. Some some

676
01:08:56,562 --> 01:09:00,310
heartening information. Some scary information. So that will they'll bring people out

677
01:09:00,310 --> 01:09:04,170
just a lone haven't. Doctor Murray, what if you if you wouldn't mind? just want to

678
01:09:04,170 --> 01:09:09,708
mention real quickly before of the housing Finance Authority this year funded the housing

679
01:09:09,708 --> 01:09:18,316
needs assessment. Got one of our board members. He's still here question still left. But

680
01:09:18,316 --> 01:09:22,788
one recognized him thanking them for their support. So yeah, I think this is this is

681
01:09:22,788 --> 01:09:29,261
a solid. >> I agree. I think this is very timely and hearing

682
01:09:29,261 --> 01:09:35,261
murmurings from staff over completely immigrants with us. go ahead.

683
01:09:35,601 --> 01:09:40,720
>> Yeah, I just want I wanted with us and sentiments that we should just beginning to this

684
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,410
item and just move forward with I thought we dis caused date before. Have you

685
01:09:44,410 --> 01:09:51,283
considered the same date that we have before? My? Often we did not discuss the dates. We

686
01:09:51,283 --> 01:09:58,424
were potential data. Now. We we had. >> I we had had that they were

687
01:09:58,424 --> 01:10:04,163
supposed to be discussed in June and we did not discuss them

688
01:10:04,163 --> 01:10:10,236
>> I will tell you staff has been working diligently on a venue and a date for this

689
01:10:10,236 --> 01:10:13,305
workshop and would really look forward to working with on during the ccb. long

690
01:10:13,305 --> 01:10:19,905
partnership. >> You know, the park's I've been kind of directed away

691
01:10:20,179 --> 01:10:27,452
from. The and Cold Nature Center. Something they were hoping May hopefully a little

692
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:31,857
more centrally located in the county. The issue with with the existing parks in Broward

693
01:10:31,857 --> 01:10:38,457
County is not the availability, but the the WiFi, audiovisual. For

694
01:10:40,666 --> 01:10:46,710
example, we looked at tree tops. Which we've spoken with Opc the gentleman that does

695
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:51,143
our streamlines our workshop every year and the reliability, they're of the

696
01:10:51,143 --> 01:10:56,948
connectivity is just not there. I don't know that we would get a quality product.

697
01:10:56,948 --> 01:11:01,353
Also in some of the other in the other. And that's part venues at and Co. We haven't

698
01:11:01,353 --> 01:11:07,574
seen it. But we've seen how much room the audio visual guys take up in that room and

699
01:11:07,574 --> 01:11:13,646
and it it gets to be a lot 2 men. Issues are ceding quite a bit. we've looked at

700
01:11:13,646 --> 01:11:20,386
everything from libraries to parks and what we're recommending if the funding.

701
01:11:20,386 --> 01:11:27,394
Can be made because this would cost money is at the Performing Arts center. And

702
01:11:27,394 --> 01:11:33,266
this was suggested by someone that River Room, which has the capacity is totally wired, has

703
01:11:33,266 --> 01:11:42,141
everything that we need. They are available on the dates that I wasn't originally given

704
01:11:42,141 --> 01:11:47,213
to look at where both on Fridays, which was October 23rd and October, 30th. Room

705
01:11:47,213 --> 01:11:52,685
would be available on Friday. The 23rd or we could look at a 3rd the day before the

706
01:11:52,685 --> 01:12:00,493
Thursday. We don't have to do it on a Friday Thursday. The 22nd of October. One concern

707
01:12:00,493 --> 01:12:04,763
that was brought to me has been parking. But I think we can find a way as far as the

708
01:12:04,763 --> 01:12:13,105
cost of parking to work with, you know, kind of figure that out. I did get an estimate

709
01:12:13,105 --> 01:12:21,447
from them. As far as the room rental and there's Beverage bar that it's a fixed

710
01:12:21,447 --> 01:12:27,920
expensive ever stations. So. Right now, I just wanted, you know, to secure a date

711
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,126
location so we can tell these awesome panel us where and when they meet So even though

712
01:12:34,126 --> 01:12:37,396
we did meet in June, I do and let you know, we've been working diligently on this. I

713
01:12:37,396 --> 01:12:43,690
don't know if anyone has thoughts for the date location open suggestions The 23rd is

714
01:12:43,690 --> 01:12:47,673
fine. If that's okay with the Sanders. >> Absolutely. And sue, I'm

715
01:12:47,673 --> 01:12:51,610
unhappy the sidebar come up with. I think Ralph may have a conflict on the 23rd. Not for

716
01:12:51,610 --> 01:12:57,100
it. >> Yeah. That date. I do have a conflict

717
01:12:59,180 --> 01:13:07,418
0nd. About a minute on that on the 22nd to. >> Everybody could check their

718
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,963
calendars and make sure that that date works for you as I had on 23rd before 22nd fine

719
01:13:10,963 --> 01:13:18,971
as well. Running. But can work for you. >> Long as it works for out.

720
01:13:18,971 --> 01:13:27,313
That works for me. I take my orders from him. Looking on the 22nd round. And then yeah.

721
01:13:27,313 --> 01:13:32,585
So we can sidebar for location if everyone agrees on note account you are OK on the

722
01:13:32,585 --> 01:13:37,523
TWENTY-SECOND is everybody available on the 22nd? Tobin on. And it's a Thursday. Let's

723
01:13:37,523 --> 01:13:46,523
say the 22nd. And as far as location is concerned. So if you're comfortable working

724
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:53,720
that out with the Sandra, I'm okay with that. Location. I think it's a it's gonna be in

725
01:13:53,720 --> 01:14:02,720
Broward County. That will be the least important to piece of this puzzle. OK? So

726
01:14:03,150 --> 01:14:05,180
everyone and so that in and chair mark that in whatever on your on your calendars, all

727
01:14:05,180 --> 01:14:09,818
work with Sandra >> The >> location to confirm that

728
01:14:13,159 --> 01:14:14,761
Kuz. >> Thank you. Thank him for as far as as far as this

729
01:14:14,761 --> 01:14:18,431
proposal. Everybody's good with this approach this proposal. Next. Would anybody

730
01:14:18,431 --> 01:14:26,831
like to move that forward for the 22nd? >> You just just a just a

731
01:14:26,973 --> 01:14:36,573
quick comment on that session. 2 that speaks to the word deals it done. You know, if

732
01:14:36,983 --> 01:14:43,923
think about that word, shake out in the city. companies to something to that The shove

733
01:14:43,923 --> 01:14:51,597
intent is to say deal, but just to think about this on that, it be. initiatives. Are

734
01:14:51,597 --> 01:14:59,605
companies do something to help a project. could. We could certainly words, man and week

735
01:14:59,605 --> 01:15:08,500
other than that, I will second show's moving so. >> Maybe if we. The venues

736
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:27,299
where high schools have their graduation. Those would probably in big enough and

737
01:15:27,299 --> 01:15:37,299
have a lot of park. I I. wish that we didn't have to before. >> suit. Also the suggestion

738
01:15:42,248 --> 01:15:47,587
that we talked about off and before we started that brand new senator that's on Dixie

739
01:15:47,587 --> 01:15:51,457
Highway and enters its brand-new. I can't imagine that we would have, but why

740
01:15:51,457 --> 01:15:54,593
fire? And that is a county building. I just don't know what it's. What that what the

741
01:15:54,593 --> 01:16:04,593
purpose of that building is. It was just built just south of Oakland Park on Dixie. But

742
01:16:08,741 --> 01:16:18,741
it will work. And also city of Pompano Beach has a very large community center that is

743
01:16:27,930 --> 01:16:37,930
rarely used. It's the Pompano Beach Cultural Arts Center. I do not think that there is a

744
01:16:38,304 --> 01:16:42,508
large price tag for using facility. And I can certainly ask my commissioner of she

745
01:16:42,508 --> 01:16:50,308
can. Provide some guidance on who could speak to him. Nancy Cotterman. Yeah.

746
01:17:14,173 --> 01:17:21,373
And Beth had mention Parker play host. Yes. Only by Helen R.

747
01:17:23,762 --> 01:17:33,362
>> At Sunrise federal there's a playhouse thing in Hollywood to b*** out. We want to be

748
01:17:33,506 --> 01:17:38,177
centralized. All right. So that's part of it. We don't want him to. And we all spend

749
01:17:38,177 --> 01:17:47,177
any money from now. >> Did you find and names? Okay. So you know how my

750
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:53,592
friend to Tina >> From vision to reality half for double housing

751
01:17:53,592 --> 01:17:58,530
developments come to life in Broward. I think that's perfect. Okay. It gave me

752
01:17:58,530 --> 01:18:03,135
another Stop right there. Okay. Because it was another. Let's have become

753
01:18:03,135 --> 01:18:10,475
communities in Broward. Yeah, come to life. You want that their full okay. And that's

754
01:18:10,475 --> 01:18:16,415
the one that it says was their favorite. By the way, she she agreed with you guys thank

755
01:18:16,415 --> 01:18:22,355
Tina. Labrie native and of Lloyd's the transactional connotation of deals. Love it.

756
01:18:22,355 --> 01:18:30,362
Yeah. Would you like to move that forward? Yes. I move that. We accept the proposal

757
01:18:30,362 --> 01:18:38,162
for a joint workshop. Just with that one name change under session. 2. Moving

758
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,244
forward with October 22nd Thursday, October 22nd. Moved and seconded. Is there any

759
01:18:45,244 --> 01:18:53,644
discussion? Seeing none all those in favor, please say aye. I. Any opposed. Seeing

760
01:18:54,519 --> 01:19:02,919
none. We've got a workshop. going to have a >> We're going have to work.

761
01:19:06,331 --> 01:19:12,137
So to that being said, please, mark a change your calendars from October 23rd October 22nd

762
01:19:12,137 --> 01:19:19,337
the October 22nd Workshop does replace our October 23rd regularly scheduled meeting.

763
01:19:19,411 --> 01:19:21,346
So we will just delay the October 23rd from our calendar, moved to the 22nd.

764
01:19:21,346 --> 01:19:26,885
That will be our meeting. Is there any old business to address?

765
01:19:26,885 --> 01:19:36,495
>> Mr. Chair just like share couple of days for you. Yes, Last week we close on the run

766
01:19:36,495 --> 01:19:38,630
redevelopment. That's another development will be a demo, a new development of the federal

767
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:44,170
permits, oath they are familiar with this project. But if you though, from here.

768
01:19:44,170 --> 01:19:50,843
Westen says truck and take a take a ride on 11th. There's project that's been around

769
01:19:50,843 --> 01:19:58,643
forever. That's on 15 scattered sites 164 units. Use the word worst, but it's the

770
01:20:03,121 --> 01:20:07,392
most challenging housing left in the county and a new developers going to one of the

771
01:20:07,392 --> 01:20:10,730
15. Lots happens to be a full city block. They're going to raise the city block and build

772
01:20:10,730 --> 01:20:17,470
a brand new mid-rise to house all 164 units while and in the transition period. They're

773
01:20:17,470 --> 01:20:22,274
going to be re locating. All of the existing residents are one will have a place to live.

774
01:20:22,274 --> 01:20:24,944
And then when they're finished, there will be 14 properties left to do

775
01:20:24,944 --> 01:20:33,344
something with was a huge deal. Very hard, very expensive that was a great

776
01:20:34,687 --> 01:20:41,930
property close that they were closing on another 100 units with pinnacle, been Cyprus and

777
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:45,831
then we have in the pipeline to close by the end of the calendar year for more deals,

778
01:20:45,831 --> 01:20:49,635
probably another around 600 units. Incredible. Thank you for that update. Great work

779
01:20:49,635 --> 01:20:56,235
growth. Awesome work anyone else. Seeing? None. >> On to public comment,

780
01:20:58,177 --> 01:21:02,715
Michelle, I know that you do have to run to catch a flight. We don't have any more

781
01:21:02,715 --> 01:21:08,854
business to go over today. So you are welcome. Excused. We will get into public comment.

782
01:21:08,854 --> 01:21:18,454
Are there any members of the public that wish to speak today? Seeing none. OK, our

783
01:21:22,868 --> 01:21:27,940
next Round Housing Council meeting will be what is at 08:00AM on October. 22nd. That

784
01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:31,343
being said, I will call for a German. Thank you all so very much.

785
01:21:31,343 --> 01:21:33,343
>> We are adjourned.