? ? Thank you very much, ladies
and gentlemen, thank you for being with us this morning. I we do have some guests here
today. I would like to call this meeting of the Broward Housing Council to order. It
is 10, 0, 7, Sue, if you would, please, to the role. Good morning, everyone. Just
full of Allegan here. Marcia Barry Smith. Mora Bowman. Michelle Callie. That daily.
Kerrigan. Arnold choice here. can or cannot join us today. Chris Chrisman here. Pearson.
Nathan Perlmutter here. Commissioner Rogers. Stone here. Taylor. I know she's
here. Mission is here. She is here right now. And we do have a quorum. Thank you. Thank you
very much. >> we are going to jump right into our agenda and get this
moving right along. I apologize for starting a few minutes late. I did tell you
to is here. And yes, she absolutely is. Sandra Vz Einhorn, the one and only
please enlighten us. Arnott and lightning. But >> good morning, everyone.
>> Nice to see friendly longtime faces and for those of you that I'm just meeting
for the first time, Sandra Jessee Einhorn. So nice to meet you. I believe in
technically on the agenda twice. But for now, I just wanted to introduce myself and
the Coordinating Council of Broward. think the easiest thing to do is introduce
myself as Ralph Stone's longtime sidekick. Perhaps the one that causes the troubles
that he can come in and then diplomatically smooth things out. But the coordinating
Council of Broward is a local nonprofit. The mission of the Ccb is to unite Business
Government and nonprofit in advocacy and coordination of Health and Human Services.
It's really sort done flowed since the 90's. And I took over in 2016 2016 was after
the Great Recession. But long before COVID it was the first time that the Alice report was
published as everyone familiar with the Alice report. We are around the table. Yes, okay.
So out the Alice report came out and lo and behold, it health and human service
stakeholders. That housing was really the biggest issues. So if we weren't addressing
housing affordability whether you worked in health care or education or child welfare,
you weren't going to be able to be successful if housing affordability was and being
addressed. I had known Mr. Stone from my previous role in it nonprofit called Rebuilding
Together. And I marched into outs office in 2016 and I said, guess what? I have brand
new people at the table that all recognize the importance of housing. We're going to
move. We're going to move that needle. We're going to get something done. And I I joke
that he perhaps respected me too much to tap me on the head and say sure. But he did say.
Getting half getting half getting a not really. And I say that I really say that to
say because back in 2016, the landscape around housing, affordability looked a lot
different. You know, the the macroeconomics of housing affordability certainly does
preclude local government from making the kind of investments that they need to make with
amendment 3 looming. I think we can all appreciate and many of you have served on this
board for a long time or have your own city budgets to contend with that. You know,
it's hard to make those lots of 0 investments into housing. Nonetheless, then Senator Nan
Rich, now county commissioner in and Rich was running for office on the County
commission and really believed in really bought into the recognition that without
addressing housing affordability, everything else is sort of stalling. And both
resilience of our community, the sustainability, the ability for residents and
business owners to thrive. Israeli inhibited by the lack of affordable options in
Broward County. And so in 2018, the court anyhow led the effort on the November 2018
ballot to create the Broward County Affordable Housing Trust Fund. We were pleased
that that passed with 74% of the vote. I know that politics is toxic. Now. It really
wasn't any different in 2018. And so I think that 74% of voters again showed that
overwhelmingly 3 out of 4 household in Broward County recognized in some way, shape
or form that housing affordability was an issue that we all need take
seriously. I am so pleased to share that over the last near decade, we have made
tremendous strides in housing, affordability, efforts and the court meeting Council, quite
frankly, works off of your plans. So your work plan is sort of our on official guide.
And so all the things that you have in your your work plan are the things that year to
year. We do. We focus on engaging with elected officials and the business
leaders and certainly during budget season with members of the board of County
commissioners to ensure that housing affordability really stays top of mind. The court
Dayton Council works on all issues at a system level with housing, affordability and
homelessness being the most critical. But obviously, over the last decade, we've worked
on census and COVID the MSD shooting Behavioral Health. Really all the issues that
come up that are recognized to be county wide and need to come out of a specific system
silo. I also serve on the county's homeless continue of care board. And I am super
honored to be a gubernatorial appointee to the Florida Housing Finance Corporation
board of directors. I've served there since 2019 and since 2025 has served as their
chair. So housing affordability is something that I'm really passionate
about. While I don't show up to these meetings, I read all of the agendas and I read all
of the minutes and certainly communicate with many of you. And quite frankly, one of the
reasons why I never served on the Broward Housing Council was because I felt like I
could do more, not serving on the board and just being able to communicate with different
members and work to try and convene. And so I believe that the proposed convening is on
the agenda for later. So I don't know if anyone has any questions or if anyone has
anything else. But views an overview. Thank you any questions for Senator?
>> Seeing none. I know that we are live streaming and made a bit of a foe. Part of just say
everybody around the table knows what Alice says, but just for the people that are
tuned in, can you just give a quick explanation? Absolutely. So the United Way publishes a
report. Alice is an acronym that stands for Asset, Limited Income, constrained and
employed. >> You can go to United Way Broward's website and read the
most recent updated Alice report. It is now national. But Broward was one of the
early adoptees. And Alice is a a great way to really better understand the community.
Nearly half of Broward County households are Alice or below meaning that nearly half of
Broward County households could not withstand a $500 financial emergency.
>> Thank you very much, Sandra. You're welcome stay where you're at because we are
definitely going to bring you back in the discussion of the Broward Housing Council Fall
Workshop. When we get to new business, that being said, I would to accept a motion to
approve the minutes from the June. 26 meeting. Thanks very much. Moved and seconded. Are
there any corrections or discussion regarding the minutes? Seeing none. All
those in favor. Please say Any opposed. Thank you very much. The meetings minutes are
approved. Moving into chair's report being that we are coming out of summer. I know
that 2 nation and Beth do have reports to give. So I'm going to defer my time to them and
start with Tunisia with our continuum of care advisory board report.
>> Thank you. Chair. Good morning, everyone. So my report for to seize really
brief this morning there, the discussion of the as well. First, to see the homeless
continuum of care meets monthly. So where this report covers July and August as
well. The discussion for the last 2, 2, meetings, 2 months has primarily centered on the
HUD notice of funding, which is about half of the funding source for the homeless
activities that we see in Broward County. And the conversations has really
centered conversation has really centered around. That. The funding has been
litigated. 4 different know, know folks have been released and they have been challenged
in court. So that's been the primary discussion. And as of yesterday, the decision as to
whether the funding that existing know for that went out in the summer would be
funded. It's still pending a decision. So. What I want to percent also to the board
that. I came out of this month's meeting was the Broward Public Schools. report
and Hart stands for Homeless Education Assistance Resource Team. I learned about this
initiative on the H 2, 0, seaboard. And one that one of the data that was reported by
by the Heart team which focuses on identifying it's a team that identifies. Students
that are affected by homeless that are either homeless at risk. The numbers were quite
astonishing where we have. 67 student center currently living in a shelter. 995 that
are doubled up. Living or 8 have doubled up living arrangement. 57 in living in a
car. And 100. And 49 students, of course, with their families living in a hotel. So. I had
to sit with that, too, for a moment. So I just wanted to bring those stat. I know where
planning our workshop. And I think affordability takes on a has taken on a new dimension.
With. Given, you know, incomes, rising prices, inventory. So I I present
this. We've talked about seniors, but we also talk about the rippling effects to
families. As homelessness, right? Going being a student going to school, doubled up,
living in a car. So I think it's something, you know, I'm bringing this stat so that we
include in our conversations, we plan workshops and information that are that
that's going to be given at our workshop this this November, October. And that
concludes my report. Thank you very much. To nation. Yes, sir. That make to start again.
67. 67. Students in a shelter. 995. In a double dip living arrangement. 57 in a living in
a car and 149 living in a hotel. I also shared the report with sue so she can
share to the chair. Thank you to nation. What does doubled up. You basically. Double for
2 families living together. So, for example, let's say, right? Like a time when I move
in with family or friends, I do want to call it couch surfing. But that's part of
it. Yeah, us or if they live in family, does that count MS? That's a good question. What
I've learned Being on the board is that there is a definition for differ for
homelessness. There's a McKinney, Vento definition. So unhoused being displaced.
There's segment Haitians of of homelessness. >> So in this case. You
wouldn't consider that as being unhoused. Again shared living. That is I would say
involuntary. It's something to be considered that, you know, you have 2 families that are.
Compelled to live together. That's something that. What I would if I had to define into
buckets, I would put that at risk. chomping at the bit to give us a.
>> little more thank you for jumping in here. So 2 things, one, it came for hours. But
the appellate court yesterday denied the motion to stay. It means that the lower court
order vacating know fo remains in effect and there's no funding opportunities at this
time for local SEO seas. We will see what happens in the courts, but that is huge. But
to what Taneisha said, she's right. So there's 2 definitions. There's the high
definition of homelessness, which is a very narrow definition of homelessness.
And then there's the Federal act, which is the McKinney Vento Act, which is geared
towards families and children and has a much broader definition of homelessness. So
part of the challenge and serving families in across the country, not just in Broward
is you might be homeless by definition of the McKinney Vento Act. But you still might
not qualify for any of the HUD programs because you do not meet the high definition of
homelessness. So it's why sometimes the data around homeless children, homeless
families is not. Entirely accurate because it depends on which definition you're using
and then who's engaging it as another example of McKinney Vento Act. If you live in a
trailer home that meets the definition of doubling up living in a hotel and living
in a mobile home or 3 examples that would qualify for homelessness under the
MCKINNEY-VENTO Act but would not qualify for homelessness under HUD. Michelle, did you
have a question? >> But I just wanted to comment based on time that
I've set on committee when my son was in elementary school, in addition to these numbers,
are those that are not reported, meaning that those students, I just want us to
really understand that this is these are the ones that filled out the documentation. With
the truthful information. We found that there are several others and the majority of the
families did not complete it that way. So we definitely we already knew we were in a
crisis. I feel like when a tsunami where it's jus overwhelming. And so just to
hear those numbers, I am. >> Yeah, I agree. It is quite sobering. And when we hear
those numbers, those are statistics that we talk about. But that part of what I was
going to to my report before I chose to it sort just to give that time to nation. Beth, I
had a quick story that I want to tell because I did experience one of these
families just a few weeks ago at a customer's home. When I went to visit them and they
had said, you know, we've seen on the ring camera that this car has just been parked out
front and it's been there day after day after day. It never moves. And I think that
there's people living in that vehicle. And hearing that I get to get a peek outside and
sure enough there was whole family that was inside of that car and I approached them
whole purpose was really introduce to Joseph Kanter and the whole program and to let
them know that there were resources available and what he was doing for the community
and people in and their situation. And what was surprising was how defensive
they became in saying that word or dashing. You know, I don't understand why are why
are bothering me and that they had a little girl in the backseat. And I just wanted to
say, I'm here as an advocate for you. I'm here as a friend. you don't have to, you know,
tell me about the door dash ing thing, your car as it moved in in days. And I
understand that. I just want you to know the resources that are available and it took them
a very long time. And it was a very long discussion before they finally warmed up. But
these are not just numbers. These are real people that we're advocating for and that
we're hoping so I just want to let you know appreciated the work is that we're all doing
here. It it whenever we can. We really need to get that word out and make sure that
people understand that there is hope and that there are avenues that they can that
they can follow in order to receive the assistance that they need. That being Beth, we
will move on to what Florida Realtors has been doing. >> Chris and are back from the
Florida Realtor Summer Convention. Where we introduced a new slate of
leadership for 2027 and went over a lot of they're not put motion talking points I
brought home some great information. I'd like to know Could we have someone come
here and talk about amendment 3? I thought how you explained at.
>> We certainly could. The next meeting's going to be on October 23rd. So that is going
to before. Election time. But as far as our well, that's going to be for the work. That
is the workshop on October 23rd right? On many others has been proposed as a date for
our workshop. On another note, as far the parameters of this. Council wouldn't be proper
for. The county body to be having a discussion pre-election on amendment 3
from. Certain organization that may have a stance one way or another.
>> answer would be no. I mean, my understanding is, you know, we are allowed to present
basic facts, but we're we're prohibited from taking any particular position. are
sponsoring and they did take a stance so that we wouldn't be able to that path.
>> All right. So a few things that I found to be very exciting I am on the
affordable housing. Attainable workforce. Housing think tank. And we talked about how many
families were helped by the hometown heroes. And that. Program has been incredibly
successful they were saying that 58,000 first-time homebuyers were assisted with
1.6 billion dollars in mortgage assistance. So that was great the list of
eligible. People now has been shrunk at one point, it included only first
responders, health care workers, then kind of opened up to everybody in the world.
Even a massage therapist. Now has been reduced again back to police fire. First responders,
medical like that. It is a fabulous program. If you know of anyone who's buying a home.
Please make sure that you explain or tell them to look up. Hometown heroes. It's it's
a great program. I found that Gainesville. Has the neediest. I send everything to Suzanne
this morning. They have free accessory dwelling unit plans on their website. And they're
fantastic. So that matters because it eliminates that cost. Somebody who wants to
add a to use. So check out the city of Gainesville website and you could just. At ad used
to search are. St. Petersburg also has an incredibly successful ad. You program.
Also on their website. So same, go visit St. Petersburg and look up to use and one
they're doing. It looks like it's really success. What else do I have? The road to Housing
Act was signed into law on July. 11th. And this was effort to address a major
driver of housing affordability. So please. As as members of the council read
about the 21st Century rode the Housing Act. It's going to be very helpful to all And it
does also to use. Appraisal changes. We have been able to get to Fannie Mae and they are
now teaching appraisers how to value up to 3 ad use on a single family property. Which
is fantastic.
And on kind of us. A more serious note, rather than cheerful news. Is
that condominiums reserve requirements are now moving again from 10% to 15%. So this
again effect a lot of our seniors who are in on, you know, Social Security and
limited income families on limited income certainly the value. Of the condominiums. it
a robust meeting. It was a I've been up there. Here's I didn't go this year. I had to
attend remotely. Chris, was there but ice for me, it was one of the most exciting
educational meetings we've ever had. Thank you, Beth. Any questions for breath? It's a
Yes, sir. >> It just wanted to announce on amendment 3, 1, to find
information and amendment 3 broadly, city's posted released on Wednesday, educate
on 3, just typing broadly. city's educate on 3. You find information fights about on
news. Each municipality. Thank you, sir.
Okay. That being said, we will move on to our directors report with Darby.
Good morning, everyone. So we have a few things going on yesterday. Unfortunate had to
jump off part of that. >> We did have a meeting with many of the city's was lead in
large part by Mr. Stone. Regarding our >> Municipal 4 car dashboard
to try to keep track of some of the affordable housing projects that are going on to
that was. could use a believe it or not. We had was pretty good at. But if you didn't
hear about 30 to 31 individuals from the very stuff of cities tend this is a
dashboard that basically we're maintaining with inside. Our division. My GIS staff will
maintain it. And we've given them a the deadline is September 3rd to start getting
that information in the initial upload of projects that they have. And then
they'll be just sort of an ongoing. Item that we just continue to maintain. if you
all recall, this was part of the part Housing Council 2026 work. Program. The division
itself as a couple of requests for applications that are coming up. We have. Some lands
that the county currently owns. And we're looking to have them redeveloped or
affordable housing. One of them was site that was acquired some time ago to
about 7.3 1 acres. It actually within the city of Fort Lauderdale and its. Within a
neighborhood of Fort Lauderdale. A lot of the underlying plat have the name
Rock Island. So were branding this thing as the Rock Island homes. All right. Just off of
I believe 19th. We've been working closely with the surveyors at Highway
Construction Engineering Division. And we believe that we have a layout that would
accommodate somewhere between 35 and 36. Single-family homes. With average lot sizes
with about frontage of roughly 60 feet in depth of anywhere from 100 to 120 feet and
death. To be able to pull it off. So the idea with this particular RFA is we would put
it out there on the street. Developers would on it. And then they would be awarded.
That land was with certain. Milestones that they have to achieve or that development,
including a rezoning. And what have you it is necessary. We have worked out with Fort
Lauderdale. What that path would look like for the redevelopment. So that.
Whoever acquires property understands exactly what they're doing for lower
understands and anticipates getting this. So that's that's one of the projects that will
be a good one because that'll actually lend itself to actual home ownership. And I think I
think we were talking about doing the traditional 15 year, the fort ability on on this
type of product. The other one that we're looking at, we internally called to Wheeler
partially because those were the 2 pre prior owners of these properties. This one is
actually within Broward Municipal Services District. This one is on the northwest
corner of 27th Avenue insist trunk is. This was roughly about 2 acres. It actually was
initially a little bit smaller. But one of the things we were able to do is working
again through Highway Construction engineering division in Britain, highways
require additional lots that fronted along 20th Avenue, which were originally
purchased. When they were doing the improvements to says Trump Boulevard, it was
initially anticipated that those lots are going to use for drainage. Will we
discovered they weren't. We were able to loop this whole thing into one larger
property. Like I said about too 0, 0, 8, acres. And so this one, again, we're going
to do the request for applications. It'll be a good deal where we give the land.
That will be part of gap financing, if you will. And on this one, what we would be
looking for sort of a combination development. So for the corner piece, the
original Wheeler Arsal a few. Well. We would look to 2 some type of a mixed use
development right? So that you have a modest commercial footprint. think we're
estimating somewhere around 3 to 4,000 Square feet and then units above that, whether new
3, 4, 5, You know, that's really going to become of a function of architecture. I
penciled it out. And I'm anticipating we could probably get somewhere in the range of
about 30 40 units, depending on how you count that. And then for those lots that line
on. Systrom Boulevard portion which would be more narrow. We would then contemplate a
purchase product of a townhome construction. So in the Bm St we actually have coach called
Garden Park, which is granted after the names of the 4 neighborhoods in that area.
Which would then allow for this town home tech construction, which would look
almost like a stoop construction, meaning that you have, you know, a nice
fronting on the 27th Avenue with porches, you know, elevated above 3 or 4 feet
above the height of the sidewalk. And then all of your parking would be towards 2 or
so would really present a nice sort of face to that. That particular street. We were I
know. There's a lot of moving parts with this. Our original hope was trying to get these.
These 2 are phased out. In September. We're working through just ESP, the Office
of Economic and small businesses issues have to go in there and then
particularly with Parsley project. We're going to incorporate a sort of
applause, a site plan review when he's applications come in to make sure that whatever
they're presenting, that it's something that the zoning code would actually accommodate.
And so hopefully we can get these out in September. But we may be pushed to October for
the advertising of some of these items. The desirability would be that some time when
rolling into the new year 2027, we'll be at or near the awarding phase for these
phase. Outside of that. Of course, we are. in the funding cycle for the next round of
ship dollars which were issued in July. And forgive me with the coming budget. Not
everyone. We're looking at another allocation. Or cdbg home and the esg The grants
that we just got on. Chip side, which, you know, keep in mind that. You know, we only
do a portion of the county. Is around 2 and a half million dollars. And then the
allocation that we're anticipating. Or the other 3 grant funded programs. Is at
about 8.1 million dollars. So. And a half going into the till to be able to use principally
for purchase assistance and homeownership repair. Some of those, you know, based on the
city's that we work with, some of that might be infrastructure as well Tuesday
to support those neighborhoods that are in need. And then, of course, you've heard me say
before I think we recently got our some of our comments back are on the cusp of getting
your comments back on the community development block. Grant disaster relief. One
that was based back on the 23 storm. And that one's about. 29 Million. 29 Million. routes
going to get a big chunk of that about 12 and half million to apply. Projects that are
going to have 70 unit or more. We're going to take some housing finance trust money
about a million dollars combined 5 and a half million of this cdbg, DR money, which
projects that 70 units or fewer. And then I think we're doing we still have about I
think 6 million in infrastructure in there and those are probably some of the
biggest pots of money that we're looking coming from that ad. Here's it's doing more
than that. But that some of the big stuff that we're looking at. The the catch with
the cdbg, Dr. Just so, you know, it really has to have some kind of tied back to the
23 storm. And with that, that is the director's report. Questions. Thank you, thank
you. Darby. >> About zoning hurdles for the one project you are
talking about. Can we not use live local? Just understand that.
>> Live local in and of itself is vehicle too enable? Development to sort of avoid a
rezoning process. It it doesn't in and of itself. Eliminate the need to rely
upon a zoning provision, right? So when we contemplate, for instance, the first
project, the Rock Island homes, wouldn't be eligible because it it's not really
commercially so late. It's not going to have a commercial type of footprint. Now someone
could come in, let's say, do an unsolicited and proposal live local project. And at the
end of the day, what would what would happen is we would look at with their proposal is
and then we would scour across what is within a half-mile of what zoning provision would be
the most likely to apply and then they would use the very same Joni provision. I just
mention to you, we would we would do that. What I believe a lot of governments are doing
and some of the developers are well, they may be coming forth with live local and developing
these things because of the expeditious manner in which they can get these approved.
And sometimes zoning codes are already aligned with what they want. But a lot of cities are
saying, okay, that's great. But understand, you know, live local comes with a 30 year,
whatever ending date, why didn't we just go ahead and rezone anyway? So that? You
know, go ahead with the live local. Go ahead with your project. But let's do the
rezoning anyways. Just so that we know we have a predictable set of development guidelines
that, you know, 4 years out when we are, you know, looking at okay of businesses coming
into businesses going out. There is a redevelopment effort. There's of this.
There's a that was a code enforcement action so that there's something that you
can. Measurably manage that property by And I think it serves in my humble opinion.
Everybody better in that regard. Okay. answer. For Nobody on I the 2 acre to 70
cup property you contemplate and nonprofit for-profit developer or does it matter?
All that matters because it's a it'll go through the RFA process. It there's not I
don't believe that there's a value in whether it's a nonprofit for-profit for us.
Its an affordable housing project in. That's what that developers going to have to
deliver. That's what it would be written into that declaration of restrictive
covenants. And then, you know, all the milestones that they're going to have to
achieve in order to deliver that product or else that gets, you know, clawed back,
OK, so then sit a follow-up question. I heard you saying given the property
>> in other words will be in any kind market value, anything involving the that
deal without pain. Whatever else would that be a case? It does doesn't have to right,
OK? >> Right. the concept here is, but the land becomes the gap
deal. Reichard and then you know it because in case of the Rock island homes, it then it
may be incumbent upon Fort Lauderdale if they want step. In addition, Ali, to apply
their own purchase assistance to individual owners, which would just be sort of like a
bonus. We did that. I should really kind of throw this back at route because he did this.
In the Bm St where we had in our last go around and he's done total around 100 of
these. But the last go around. It was 12 where we had 12 lot. And we in this particular
case, we did it with with not profits where we gave them the land. That was to get finance
t I think we actually through another 50 grand for article and prep and then we came back
on the buyer side with purchase assistance. But again, because this is for or
they get significant allocation, you know, it'll be incumbent upon them to follow
up on that other side. Great to 10. >> So that exactly the reason
why I asked the question because I remember the requirement back forward was
for nonprofit that which ends goes to Mike next recommendation of private.
Some to think about. We talked earlier about dashboard for many spots is too low things
in. I think it's it will be something to think about to start working with
municipalities. Justice he said would put a lot can do something, puts U.S.
assistance where we can do the same thing. That was by just going do the same thing.
properties like that getting some and will use getting some des agreement that well, but
just distance will be available if you do these. And I think that's something to
think about and start working with MS policies Of course, as you know, my city did similar.
So, you know, that will make the dashboard more robust, hopefully in the future. start
having this collaboration. So strongly encourage that. Was thinking about that? Because
responses do have land that they can do the same exact thing. they're short, that
they will be assistance. >> I've determine so yeah. one of the things that we've done
because we you know, we also have our division, we have real estate so for instance.
You know, we have every 3 years we have to put up the list of properties available
for before housing. So there we had a few lots that were in Oakland Park. So we're, you
know, basically often those over to that they can do for housing with that, we're about
to put up a new list. We're going to a bunch. Lots of Fort Lauderdale. Florida has a
punch. A lot to be a mistake. So one of my desires that we get involved, a land swap with
them, give us to be a nasty ones. Give you the full are the ones and lets lets you
this. When you have more control over those properties, do the affordable housing
piece and we know will be in the bms team. We have an interest in doing more
affordable housing in mst, single-family home purchase type, which know, a big
portion of the properties that we actually have in surplus. >> It's quick question. I have
if we discuss Affordability crisis, these project. When competition, the finish. What
will be the criteria would be based on buying or rent to. How would it work?
>> Well, for the Rock Island home, that will be that will be a buyer program, right? So
that will be. Yeah. The single-family homes. That will be a buyer scenario. With the
Wheeler Aracely the one in the unincorporated neighborhood that's going to be a
combination. right now with contemplated is that the town home portion of the
development would a purchase. In probably some kind of H.O.A. or something set up
manage that. And then the mixed use peas would likely be a rental just because of the
complications associated with. A mixed use type development. You know It's a lot to sort of
straddle on just a run of the Mill H.O.A. to also all of the now become a commercial.
Landlord, if you will. So so we're looking at that that model there so that we can we
can provide 2 options for folks. Our neighborhood. Is there
>> target audio. What? What am I would you anticipate might be the purchaser say the rock
island. And I think the rock on we doing one 20 and that when are we going, we're doing
one 20. And then the broader question is that's great. All the efforts are. Are
wonderful. But if we hear from Sandy that some people, 50% of the population can't sustain a
$500 set back. And we have people living in cars that are reported with some consistency
should there be an overall arch for this group to says to suggest names of the county
commission, a focus on? Fund allocations policies. The needs at 120% and 60%. But
there's also obviously needs at the bottom tier. are we just going to be universal in
trying to hit? Every category of income deed. The per income category. Or should we be more
focused? Well, so it lends itself to a much broader conversation, one of which the
county commission in Ruston in particular have have been engaged You know, so we when
we look at. Our phase, it, discussing today that sharing with you. Obviously, many of
these are probably gonna hit sort of that. >> But 80 2 to one 20 range
right? But to your point, there are other people who, you know, is there not
necessarily, you know, individuals who would qualify for. The homeless assistance
center that we have on sunrise and and 7th. But can't necessarily get themselves
into some type of subsidized market housing right? And so, you know, one of the things
that the commission has asked us to explore. The idea of what other type housing can we
secure? You know, pallet housing. Is it? You know, taking over in renovating the
old, you know, motels or hotels that have come up for sale. That, you know, they
become a manage project I think Dade County does something similar. They have a
property where they've they've done this. Where, you know, you're not in crisis mode and
you're not the appropriate population to go into the crisis mode. Housing. Can't go
into the one where your rent going to be expected to be at around 1700. But you may be
you can swing 8, 9, 100 a month or whatever the number might be. These are other
items that that we're exploring. And we're we're taking a look at obviously,
you know, some of these things. You are going to require significant capital
outlay, not just simply in the purchase of the land and the building itself, but then also
what kind of retro fit to we have to do with the property. And then, you know, how does
management structure of these types facilities actually function? Because each it's
one thing to think that, you know, you just going to telling news people in it,
let's say, but you still have to maintain a still have operate You know, there are
many other things that still have to kind of happened here. And I think you know that when
we talk about the number November 3rd, you ballot initiative, we don't even know
what our financial footing is going to be then. So we're actively exploring that
question right? And I think ultimately. As we progress and we start seeing some of these
properties come available and we start asking ourselves some of these questions. And then
we get past November 3rd and we understand what our financial footing is. We'll
then be able to the more thoughtful as we sort of approach these decisions
because is the county commission has expressed on more than one occasion and
advocated by Mr. Stone. There is a real need. Within that regard and that that
particular target population that you've identified. Mr. just follow up real quickly
that there is. >> Not coincidentally, pretty nice balance between. The
funding that the board puts toward the homelessness program. Neighborhood, home
ownership and home repair programs which are supported by the 3 grants block grant
ship. And then the Gap program in the bond programs I'm involved in. So. General, you
can say that there around 25 million dollars for each of those strategies. The the
important part of the gap program in the bond programs is when you're doing the
bonds, are you that asked for programs you're getting down to cohorts that are 30% below
up to a person blow, but generally between 16, 30. So you're getting. That very low
renter. At a level that can sustain their wages that no more than 30% of their income,
which means they're not cause burn. You know, that's the program. Senator and I were
involved in kicking off back in 2018. We're marching towards 6,000 units and
200 million dollars and get financing. Is leverage almost a billion dollars in capital
investment programs like it's a nice balance. People. get involved in the strategies.
They're there is the homelessness peas people transition into housing. The
rental program. And then the homeownership stuff. balance between those 3. questions
aren't. the coroner property of the sis trunk and 27th Ave. The the mixed use. Art. Could
not be higher. And then accommodate more and there's an additional addition to that
is on single-family home. Lots that we have. Could we think about building one single
family home and 3 ad use on that property. >> So
>> fun times ahead and make clear was the 9 years I've spent to says owning
administrator for the city of Hollywood. >> And
>> one of the things you learn really quickly and that the clear type of job. Everybody
has a different idea as to what has to happen on a particular property. And one
of the biggest voices in that conversation are the people who live nearby. And every
politician or I should say almost every politician is very sensitive to that
particular conversation. So when we think about, for instance, the Rock Island home
right? Ralph and had kicker and a number of different ideas as to what we could are
are couldn't accomplish there. But ultimately the where we landed. Was a reflection of
what was expressed through the neighborhood through the political body as to what
would be desirable and accepted. And if you look at that community and when we put
together the lots. We put together the lot in such a way that is reflective of how the
rest of that community is laid out. So, you know, the zoning is the is reflected in the
expectations of the community. That same thing applies towards to be am St. So when
when I created this Garden Park Autry Development Code. It was created in close
communication with the community to understand what it was that they were willing
to accept concept of redevelopment with in your neighborhood, right? So you
could we force upon them hired an to use? Yes. And often times when you do that, what
you find is a backlash. And then you end up with even less. And I will tell you, I
saw that happen. And when I was there a term Palmetto Bay. You know, and I I warned the
city manager. Then if you do this, there's going to be a backlash. And so we got some
of the initial stuff built that I said that this is what the community's going to
tolerate. And in the moment the one project came in that I told him that the community
won't tolerate a completely eliminated the code. Now nothing there gets built.
Zoning to reflection of what the community wants. I understand and that's
respectful. Any further questions. >> Seeing none. I do have a
couple in regards to the mixed use property. We're talking about townhomes were talking
about commercial, a commercial portion. >> And the potential for the
mix to rentals above. Is it possible too, Bill that has a condominium style project as
opposed to an H.O.A.. You're talking about the mixed use. One up.
>> I mean, the simple answer is yes, we could do that. It's it just becomes a. A much more
complicated project. And in Mr. Stone that we had a conversation about just a
couple months ago because Dade done something similar. You know, legally, you can find a
path. But this is this is the one thing. You know, I want you to also take into
consideration right now. The current market. We have as much as we like homeownership,
the current work. We have really favors. It weighs pricing. The waste can sing.
really favors that could push that aside for one 0nd. Okay. Think about. Across the
entire. Broad spectrum of Broward County, an H.O.A. Ys and how how they effectively
manage. Getting the the community pool cleaned. The curbs fixed the grass cut. Now
we're going to ask a very small community group become a commercial landlord. And it
becomes a very partial landlord. You could sell those commercial units as commercial
condominium units. I think you think complicated even further by doing that. I think it
becomes a very challenging product. You can be done. Right? I mean, it certainly
can be done, but just has a layer of complexity to the project. That could slow the
whole thing down. You know, because as as it currently stands, you know, many of
these developers may not have the incentive to move forward with it because they're trying
to find a way to get this thing. The pencil out. And has a condo product that may not
work. Another question is in regards >> The 15 year affordability
component that would be in the restrictive covenants of Rock Island homes can you explain
to the group why it would be a 15 year? Affordability component. Not something
that's a longer term. I'm gonna I'm gonna put that one over Mr. mean, I've been part
of the conversations, but >> he's been really in the weeds on this one. And I think
it's important to hear from him on this. >> Yes, so he's historically
we've been kind of around the world on the program, but about probably going on 15
years ago. Now. Ford made a conscious decision that they wanted to balance
>> the notion of the affordability period with wealth building. So on the
rental side now were up around. We get a 99 year. Affordability periods a
minimum of 50, but one in this last round of the RFA, the for projects that were funded all
check to 99 Bucks as a one point. So. That's good. We're we're really extending on the
rebel side on the home ownership side. The decision was to balance. Period of time
that we would have it available to affordable family against the wealth building
effect of that ownership. Strategy. makes sense. Thank you for that.
>> And then just a comment mixed income of the. Of the leased property rentals that
are going to be a 27 consist Rick, is there a? mixed income requirement for that I spent
17 years living Toronto where that became a wave worthy the city commission it's a scape
in me now because they don't call them counties. The region but stress on there being
mixed income just. Because of the effect that it had on the community to have people who
are extremely low income living in the same building with people that were at, you
know, various and Mize. Because it creates opportunity for many income classes that
are in that building where your next door neighbor, maybe somebody who has, you know, a
fantastic job that could you know, having that relationship with a neighbor, provide
future opportunities for that takes a little bit of stress off of the government and
government programs and really provides a pathway for that person, too. Know somebody
that happens to be the next door neighbor in the same building and they can, you
know, all boats rise with the Tide speak. So a couple thoughts on that. The the
simple answer is this project is in onto plate. Okay. We're setting aside a certain number
for 30, 60. important. It doesn't do Be frank on that part. In the in the planning
parlance, when we talk about this concept of you know, not having just, you know, this
enclave, a very wealthy enclave, very poor. When we look at this particular
project. This one. It sounds like a dance project, but it really isn't. You know, when
we putting this thing out to bid our anticipation. Or one of the criteria that we're
putting into the RFA. We haven't kind of settled on the number yet. We're probably
going to say something in the tune of maybe 40 45 units. I've penciled it out in my
rudimentary architectural skills. That I learned in high school, not college.
>> Got got me to it. Got me to about 50 units really sort of oppression. The threshold I
think of an architect, got a hold of it. >> And really kind dug into
the code. Maybe they'll get us more. Maybe look at its last were giving him bonus points
for every additional you take. above that number but at the end of the day, it's not it's
not. And credibly. Tension it's not a of units there. Where I think we would be
effective in strata. Fine. You know, the sort of ranges that you might anticipate. So it
takes. And I forget what the the total ranges on. don't know if we were a tier one, 20
as the case may be. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's just too small to try to accomplish
that. Not if I want to keep my job. >> No. Go ahead. And recruits
have dropped or anybody. The top line a little bit. But by. Having mandatory make staying
calm. Florida quantifiable benefits from that, right. So you hope that somebody
assimilate and to a higher role of productivity from professionalism, too financial
investment, whatever it might be in life's way I haven't seen any studies on that that
that works and where I get a little bit perplexed by that is. housing authority
perspective. We have to small area, fair market rent. So we have 23 have a one better move
on and it could all have different reimbursements to landlord from our site subsidy
from our side. We now have we have 6,000 people out there. Receiving subsidy. But we have
7 now that received over $7,000 a month and subsidy. Live in some of the western
suburbs. That's a that's good or bad. At same 6 pensive and I haven't seen a greater level
of assimilation access to social services, access to career, better health care,
better education. I haven't seen the attainment goals achieved or at least
quantified by having. Having this forest mixed income model where ICU or best is in
communities Metro Lines. Anybody live next. Anybody if they can get to work easily to
metro liner in Boston Philadelphia here in New York City. People live with
anybody. In car communities. I find there's a greater hesitancy, but a lot of people
to reside in communities already have that forest. Disparity of incomes. When a
car community, if they lose the privilege of waking up in the morning. But the Metro
South, that proximity to a metro will cause people to live with anybody. you had an
option, get in your car to say I don't want to lose the right to drive an hour and Let's
just I haven't seen studies that support. Next thing Com for social goals. But I'd be
curious and read them. >> And full transparency that was years and years ago when I
lived there don't know if there was anything quite a viable that they produced. was
just and idea when those a building boom going on and they were trying to avoid
building affordable housing communities that we're just going to end up becoming it.
Yeah, for for lack of better word. The projects the way that the New York made a
mistake in building some of those projects. >> Yes. And then my final
comment on that because we're landlord is well. When spots ability to enforce Ali. So
before you get the project owners have responsibility to enforce Lisa, people don't
comply. You remove those tended to preserve your property. He served humanity
of the place that you call home and all those sort of things. A lot of things.
Simply because tend have a resident focus and say residents are on the property
where I would say there's an equal management landlords, unfortunately says absolutely.
>> Okay. Any other comments or questions for Darby seeing none. Thank you very much.
Into new business. This is our task at hand for the day. You will see a second handout
outside from your agenda. I know. Beth, thank you very much for running the June
meeting as I was absent. But I know that she did pass on the message that this meeting was
really going to be dialing down everything that we need to as far as FEMA location and
then speakers as well and having that discussion for the fall workshop. So that is our
task at hand. Sandra had put up. Thank you for putting that on the screen. Sandra had
supplied us with an idea that she's come up with 4 the fall housing workshop and I would
love it you'd like to go through this with us and let us know what your ideas were.
Sure. Thank you so. >> The coordinating Council, Broward as a shared previously
housing affordability is one of our top issues. So every year we either have an event
or last year, we did a series of online workshops this year. Kind of got away from us. And
we were looking at a fall day to do our workshop. And in speaking with Ralph, we
discussed the fact that you all to help fall workshop in lieu of having 2 different
workshops where we are probably going to be touching on similar things. I thought
that it might be more beneficial if we just joined forces and had an event
together. So I wanted to just kind of go through what we had proposed for all of you and
the rationale behind it for discussion and for your approval. We we're going to
have opening remarks from County Commissioner Hayes. All Rogers as she serves on this
board, we thought that that would be nice, of course, by then the information from
doctor Ned Murray and his team at EFI you for the updated affordable housing needs
assessment will be available. So we wanted to start it off with Dr. Murray's presentation
and the unveiling of the overdue heated municipal score card that we are really
excited about. And then we wanted to really break it out into 2 panel presentations.
2026 really reflects a decade of sort of that shift in housing advocacy and really
moving away from what used to be just kind of the usual suspects coming around half.
Michelle remembers those days. There was a lot. Well, a lot less of a sitting around and
talking about housing, affordability. And so 2016 in the Coordinating Council,
really, I think sort of took that took that off-ramp of what had historically been
housing, affordability, advocacy and really purposefully engage the
business community and really purposefully engaged a broader group of stakeholders and
cute, including again, health and human services and economic development. The
Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance and the Broward Workshop, et cetera, et
cetera. And so we thought that it would be great to really reflect on where we've come,
what we've done and how we're doing it. So panel won the first or the second session
was named from vision to reality. How affordable housing deals get done in
Broward. We are long past having to explain what housing affordability means or why
it's important and really want folks to be able to walk away with new valuable, relevant
and timely information. The suggested panelists again, bring together a broad sector
of both business and government. We put a little overview there and some
discussion topics and then session 3 would be looking ahead. The next chapter for
housing in Broward. Again, a group of both. Nonprofit for-profit and government
partners. Chris, we would hope that we were hoping that you would go ahead and moderate
that panel and and then we wanted to close it out. For those of you that are not
familiar in Miami-Dade County, the University of Miami runs a program for the last decade.
It's a community scholars and affordable housing program. They've been doing it for the
last decade. Michelle is familiar with that. She's not in her head. We wanted to
provide an opportunity for that for that team to have. You know, again, we gave them
15 minutes to share it in the hopes that we might be able to engage some folks from Broward
County to participate in the next cohort. Each cohort is 12 people. Again, it's been
around for decades of. They've graduated over 120 leaders. It is a much more in-depth
program. Miami homes for all is one of their partners. It had previously funded by
banks, including I know JP Morgan Chase. And so we wanted to see what the appetite was
in Broward. I know I don't want to do this for ever and we want to make sure that we
are continuing to provide opportunities for the next group of leaders. Again,
business nonprofit faith-based, you know, you'd be will definitely be a part
of conversations. 2, 3, but really just trying to open up and expand the umbrella of
people that are really educated in the nuance of housing, affordability. And I
really, you know, and nomenclature is important. And so I say housing
affordability, not affordable housing because we really want people to understand that this
is an economic concept and not end product. So Ford will housing could be an end
product. Housing affordability is the economic concept that if you want to be a healthy
consumer and the economy, you cannot be spending more than 30% of your household income
on housing. Regardless on what that is. But we know that it's a lot more nuance than an
article or a meme or a hashtag. And we really want to do the best that we can
without having to replicate efforts. Right? So if we don't have to stand up this own
effort in Broward and we can just play off of something that's already existing. We
saw that there would be a benefit to that. And then, of course, closing it out from
Senator Nan Rich who also serves on the board of county commissioners and certainly
has been the ultimate champion of housing affordability over the last decade and Broward.
>> Well, thank you so much for that. Quick question is in regards to the lineup.
Fantastic speakers. I think the majority of us know every person who is on this list.
I've worked with several of them and no of the rest. Have they approached and are they?
>> Confirmed for the event that, you know, we wanted to make sure that we had buy-in
from this group first. I mean, again, most of them are. If you approve it today by the
end of the day come back and say of Hardy confirmed half of them many of them, we've
already sort of spoken to and softball. Hey, it's coming up for discussion. But we wanted
to wait until we had you're buying on the agenda and then certainly working with county
staff to identify a date and location. But, you know, we could swap everyone
replaceable. So anyone that can't make it, we could certainly bring someone else
in. But I'm fairly confident that everyone would be pleased to be a part of this.
>> Well, this is a late-summer birthday gift. I think that this is fantastic.
>> do. I know, Beth, and as you guys in the June to come back with ideas. Does anybody
have ideas that complement this or is is there something here that you think could be
massaged her change her. Any ideas that you brought to the table today that you would
like to discuss. Dig into details. What you present. >> rough
>> I think Senator did a great job it. Putting a the program the center full Cross section
and the the individuals are really community leaders, both on the nonprofit and
government development side. I think it and rolling out the you just month that I just got
the final copy of last week. Just some really interesting information. Some some
heartening information. Some scary information. So that will they'll bring people out
just a lone haven't. Doctor Murray, what if you if you wouldn't mind? just want to
mention real quickly before of the housing Finance Authority this year funded the housing
needs assessment. Got one of our board members. He's still here question still left. But
one recognized him thanking them for their support. So yeah, I think this is this is
a solid. >> I agree. I think this is very timely and hearing
murmurings from staff over completely immigrants with us. go ahead.
>> Yeah, I just want I wanted with us and sentiments that we should just beginning to this
item and just move forward with I thought we dis caused date before. Have you
considered the same date that we have before? My? Often we did not discuss the dates. We
were potential data. Now. We we had. >> I we had had that they were
supposed to be discussed in June and we did not discuss them
>> I will tell you staff has been working diligently on a venue and a date for this
workshop and would really look forward to working with on during the ccb. long
partnership. >> You know, the park's I've been kind of directed away
from. The and Cold Nature Center. Something they were hoping May hopefully a little
more centrally located in the county. The issue with with the existing parks in Broward
County is not the availability, but the the WiFi, audiovisual. For
example, we looked at tree tops. Which we've spoken with Opc the gentleman that does
our streamlines our workshop every year and the reliability, they're of the
connectivity is just not there. I don't know that we would get a quality product.
Also in some of the other in the other. And that's part venues at and Co. We haven't
seen it. But we've seen how much room the audio visual guys take up in that room and
and it it gets to be a lot 2 men. Issues are ceding quite a bit. we've looked at
everything from libraries to parks and what we're recommending if the funding.
Can be made because this would cost money is at the Performing Arts center. And
this was suggested by someone that River Room, which has the capacity is totally wired, has
everything that we need. They are available on the dates that I wasn't originally given
to look at where both on Fridays, which was October 23rd and October, 30th. Room
would be available on Friday. The 23rd or we could look at a 3rd the day before the
Thursday. We don't have to do it on a Friday Thursday. The 22nd of October. One concern
that was brought to me has been parking. But I think we can find a way as far as the
cost of parking to work with, you know, kind of figure that out. I did get an estimate
from them. As far as the room rental and there's Beverage bar that it's a fixed
expensive ever stations. So. Right now, I just wanted, you know, to secure a date
location so we can tell these awesome panel us where and when they meet So even though
we did meet in June, I do and let you know, we've been working diligently on this. I
don't know if anyone has thoughts for the date location open suggestions The 23rd is
fine. If that's okay with the Sanders. >> Absolutely. And sue, I'm
unhappy the sidebar come up with. I think Ralph may have a conflict on the 23rd. Not for
it. >> Yeah. That date. I do have a conflict
0nd. About a minute on that on the 22nd to. >> Everybody could check their
calendars and make sure that that date works for you as I had on 23rd before 22nd fine
as well. Running. But can work for you. >> Long as it works for out.
That works for me. I take my orders from him. Looking on the 22nd round. And then yeah.
So we can sidebar for location if everyone agrees on note account you are OK on the
TWENTY-SECOND is everybody available on the 22nd? Tobin on. And it's a Thursday. Let's
say the 22nd. And as far as location is concerned. So if you're comfortable working
that out with the Sandra, I'm okay with that. Location. I think it's a it's gonna be in
Broward County. That will be the least important to piece of this puzzle. OK? So
everyone and so that in and chair mark that in whatever on your on your calendars, all
work with Sandra >> The >> location to confirm that
Kuz. >> Thank you. Thank him for as far as as far as this
proposal. Everybody's good with this approach this proposal. Next. Would anybody
like to move that forward for the 22nd? >> You just just a just a
quick comment on that session. 2 that speaks to the word deals it done. You know, if
think about that word, shake out in the city. companies to something to that The shove
intent is to say deal, but just to think about this on that, it be. initiatives. Are
companies do something to help a project. could. We could certainly words, man and week
other than that, I will second show's moving so. >> Maybe if we. The venues
where high schools have their graduation. Those would probably in big enough and
have a lot of park. I I. wish that we didn't have to before. >> suit. Also the suggestion
that we talked about off and before we started that brand new senator that's on Dixie
Highway and enters its brand-new. I can't imagine that we would have, but why
fire? And that is a county building. I just don't know what it's. What that what the
purpose of that building is. It was just built just south of Oakland Park on Dixie. But
it will work. And also city of Pompano Beach has a very large community center that is
rarely used. It's the Pompano Beach Cultural Arts Center. I do not think that there is a
large price tag for using facility. And I can certainly ask my commissioner of she
can. Provide some guidance on who could speak to him. Nancy Cotterman. Yeah.
And Beth had mention Parker play host. Yes. Only by Helen R.
>> At Sunrise federal there's a playhouse thing in Hollywood to b*** out. We want to be
centralized. All right. So that's part of it. We don't want him to. And we all spend
any money from now. >> Did you find and names? Okay. So you know how my
friend to Tina >> From vision to reality half for double housing
developments come to life in Broward. I think that's perfect. Okay. It gave me
another Stop right there. Okay. Because it was another. Let's have become
communities in Broward. Yeah, come to life. You want that their full okay. And that's
the one that it says was their favorite. By the way, she she agreed with you guys thank
Tina. Labrie native and of Lloyd's the transactional connotation of deals. Love it.
Yeah. Would you like to move that forward? Yes. I move that. We accept the proposal
for a joint workshop. Just with that one name change under session. 2. Moving
forward with October 22nd Thursday, October 22nd. Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion? Seeing none all those in favor, please say aye. I. Any opposed. Seeing
none. We've got a workshop. going to have a >> We're going have to work.
So to that being said, please, mark a change your calendars from October 23rd October 22nd
the October 22nd Workshop does replace our October 23rd regularly scheduled meeting.
So we will just delay the October 23rd from our calendar, moved to the 22nd.
That will be our meeting. Is there any old business to address?
>> Mr. Chair just like share couple of days for you. Yes, Last week we close on the run
redevelopment. That's another development will be a demo, a new development of the federal
permits, oath they are familiar with this project. But if you though, from here.
Westen says truck and take a take a ride on 11th. There's project that's been around
forever. That's on 15 scattered sites 164 units. Use the word worst, but it's the
most challenging housing left in the county and a new developers going to one of the
15. Lots happens to be a full city block. They're going to raise the city block and build
a brand new mid-rise to house all 164 units while and in the transition period. They're
going to be re locating. All of the existing residents are one will have a place to live.
And then when they're finished, there will be 14 properties left to do
something with was a huge deal. Very hard, very expensive that was a great
property close that they were closing on another 100 units with pinnacle, been Cyprus and
then we have in the pipeline to close by the end of the calendar year for more deals,
probably another around 600 units. Incredible. Thank you for that update. Great work
growth. Awesome work anyone else. Seeing? None. >> On to public comment,
Michelle, I know that you do have to run to catch a flight. We don't have any more
business to go over today. So you are welcome. Excused. We will get into public comment.
Are there any members of the public that wish to speak today? Seeing none. OK, our
next Round Housing Council meeting will be what is at 08:00AM on October. 22nd. That
being said, I will call for a German. Thank you all so very much.
>> We are adjourned.