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Thank you. Welcome to today's

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school board workshop. This

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workshop at the School Board of

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Broward County, Florida, is now

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called to order to ensure a

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safe and productive environment.

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Please note that clearly marked

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emergency exits do not block

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exit doors, and all attendees

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must be seated except for media.

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Once the room reaches capacity,

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attendees will be directed to

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the overflow area. If the fire

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alarm sounds, exit the room

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calmly continue outside the

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building and remain there until

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authorities give clearance to

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return. Thank you for your

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cooperation. All please rise

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for the Pledge of Allegiance to

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the flag of the United States

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of America. I pledge allegiance.

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>> To the flag of the United

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States of America and to the

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Republic for wch it stands.

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One nation under GOD,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> As we begin, we reaffirm our

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strategic plan goal 100%

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proficiency for all students.

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Guided by our vision. Educating

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today's students to succeed in

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tomorrow's world. As an a-rated

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district, we remain committed

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to sustaining this achievement

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while empowering every student

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to reach their highest

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potential. Our theme this year

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is believe, empower, achieve

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one Broward. We e llll soon hear

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from our registered public

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speakekersWe ask thaha decorumum

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bebe maiainene I iivivility a

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respect b behohown dingg public

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comment. Our General Counsel

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will assist the chair in

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maintaining decorum during this

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period. We also want to remind

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our public speakers of the

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rules and expectations

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regarding the agenda, public

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comment portion of this

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workshop, as well as board

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policy attorney Dupree Bruno,

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please explain the rules of

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>> Good morning and thank you,

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MADAM Chair. Public comment is

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governed by School Board Policy

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1020 and is intended to provide

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input on the board's duties,

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decisions and the overall

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operation of the school

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district. The school board is

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viewpoint neutral during public

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comment per school board policy.

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1020. The procedures are as

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follows. Speakers must state

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their name, city of residence

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and whether they are a lobbyist

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before beginning their remarks.

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All remarks must be directed to

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the board as a whole. The board

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will not respond to or engage

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with speakers during public

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comment, and no action will be

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taken unless the item is on the

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agenda. This is a workshop, so

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public comment will be in

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relation to the agenda. During

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the agenda speaking time,

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speakers will have up to three

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minutes per item. A visible

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timer will be used in the

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microphone MAY be turned off

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when time expires. Speakers

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must limit their comments to

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matters related to school board

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business and for agenda items

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must remain relevant to

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specific item. Comments MAY not

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address matters that are

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administrative hearings.

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activities must comply with

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applicable school board

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policies. Abusive language

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defined as profanity

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threatening or name calling is

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prohibited. In addition,

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clapping, hissing, booing,

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shouting, yelling or other

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disruptions from the audience

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are not allowed. Speakers who

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fail to follow proper decorum

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in the chambers will be ruled

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out of order by the board chair.

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Failure to comply MAY result in

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the microphone being turned off

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or recess being called after a

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warning. The chair MAY also

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direct removal from the meeting

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or removal from the building by

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law enforcement or the Sergeant

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at Arms. Thank you, MADAM Chair.

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>> Thank you. Attorney Bruno,

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the board wants to hear from

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you, and we appreciate your

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cooperation in maintaining a

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respectful, orderly and

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productive meeting environment.

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We will now proceed with the

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agenda. Today's workshop will

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operate in accordance with

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School Board Policy 1020, and

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the board will review the items

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as advertised and presented by

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the superintendent. Our first

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item is committee reports, and

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I know there are some people

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running late, so if I call them

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and they're not here right now,

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I'll come back as they walk

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into the room. So I don't see

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audit. Broward County

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Association of Student Councils

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and Student advisor to the

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>> Okay, sorry. Hello, everyone.

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First of all, Michael and I are

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very excited. This is our first

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official committee report. So

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obviously we're still kind of

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stepping into this role. So we

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don't have too much to report

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on. But we did just get back

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from something called Swfl tc,

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which is the South Florida

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leadership training camp and is

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partially sponsored by bcc. And

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let me tell you, we had an

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amazing time there. I'm sure

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almost every single student who

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went there also agrees with us.

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We truly learned so much about

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what it means to be a leader

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and to really prepare for this

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role further. Additionally,

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we're kind of just setting up

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all of our meetings, getting to

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formally introduce ourselves to

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everyone and have a deeper

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understanding of this role.

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>> As the lease said, the sf

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ltc training camp was something

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truly amazing. You know,

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students really did have a

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great time. Students came in

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not wanting to be there and

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left in tears. So in a good way.

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students having fun and also

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learning and learning how to

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become a leader. The Bcac new

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new Executive Board is very

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excited to start working for

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the next school year. They're

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very, very eager and excited to

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start working and planning.

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>> Thank you so much. District

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Advisory Council. North area.

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>> Good morning to all. My name

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is Brooke and I'm here to give

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the Central area report.

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Central met on MAY 21st. We

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held elections and discussed

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several topics. One of those

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topics was elementary specials.

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The board's emphasis on

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prioritizing pe, music and art

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as elementary specials has been

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really warmly received within

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the community, there was a

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board follow up document that

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showed the anticipated

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anticipated specials for all of

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the elementary schools for next

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year. And we did notice that

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there are several schools that

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still do not have art or music,

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but do have a core special. So

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we think some follow up at

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those schools would be

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appropriate to ensure that's,

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in fact, what the stakeholders

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desire. Our staff chairs are

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deeply concerned about class

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sizes at all grade levels for

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next year k to 12. We're

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hearing that schools will have

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to wait until OCTOBER to hire

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more teachers above the budget

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that they currently have. We

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were initially under the

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impression that they would be

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able to hire teachers over the

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summer, and I don't know if

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it's a point of confusion, but

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I think we should have some

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clarification as to whether

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principals will be able to post

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jobs as their schools get

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enrollment over that 10%

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reduction. If we wait till

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students in class for over

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seven weeks that are

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overcrowded, and it will also

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disrupt student learning when

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they're reshuffled. I'd also

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like to get some clarification

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on whether the district intends

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to adhere to state statutory

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class size limits, which are 18

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for k to two, 22 for grades 3

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to 8, and 25 for high school.

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time, 1 to 1 devices and the

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district's ai initiative. The

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stakeholders have continued to

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express concern about

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supplemental software,

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including I-ready and the plan

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to implement a district wide.

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most parents were not aware of

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the details of the initiative,

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but responded negatively to the

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prioritization of edtech over

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foundational academic skills.

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composition, critical thinking,

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and project based learning.

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the ai symposium registration

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closing and that it was

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supposedly full, but when

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parents arrived, there was a

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lot of open space. We also

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learned that the q and a

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session at the end was not held,

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so stakeholders were not able

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to ask questions at the end.

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The dac elementary subcommittee

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has continued its work and

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would like to reiterate an

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alternative alternative path

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for the district that more

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closely aligns to the budget

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reality, protect student

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privacy and prioritizes

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effective teaching methods. The

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district has a massive 1 to 1

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device program and well over 50

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Switching to a computer, lab,

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or device cart model model

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while aggressively sunsetting

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non-critical software licenses

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could save an estimated $40

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million each year. We also

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suggest creating a bcc data

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Bill of rights for our students,

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and to direct staff to bring

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the district into compliance

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with laws such as Sopa, Florida

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Parental Rights and Education,

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Florida Digital Bill of rights,

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Florida Technology and k to 12

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bill. The Florida Objection to

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Digital Materials, Coppa and

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ferpa. These results can can

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result in a loss of funds,

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administrative salaries and

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directed corrective action for

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the district. But the lack of

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compliance also erodes the

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public trust and perception of

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transparency. I see I'm running

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out of time. We'd like the

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district to take action to

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protect the cognitive core and

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teacher autonomy. We don't want

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to see teachers have

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consequences for choosing paper

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based methods that are highly

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effective, and we hope to see a

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genuine recommitment

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recommitment to student

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well-being. One of the specific

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suggestions we have is to

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prohibit the use of YouTube and

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to move approved digital

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content to district servers to

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protect our children from

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addictive and predatory

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algorithms. See, I'm almost out

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of time. Given that the policy

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review of the board procedures

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and public participation

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policies happened after our

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last meeting, Central Area was

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unable to weigh in on that item.

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To that point, it's

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fundamentally problematic to

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scale back public participation

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at a time when advisories are

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not meeting, and your

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stakeholders are not here to

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comment. Having attended the

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meeting, I can say it was

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insufficient in this board

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should direct that an actual

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rural development hearing be

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held where the public has

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sufficient time to ask

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questions about the 31 proposed

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policies. Not doing so would

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open up any new policy that

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comes from that rulemaking

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procedure to a legal challenge.

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Central advisories next meeting

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will be AUGUST 20th at Indian

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Ridge Middle School. We welcome

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any board requests to gather

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stakeholder feedback. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. South area.

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>> Good morning. I'm Anthony

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Bailey, South area chair. On

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our final meeting of the 2025

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2026 school year was held on

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MAY 18th. During this meeting,

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we conducted election of

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officers position for the

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upcoming school year. We have.

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We were honored to welcome

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Doctor Dr Fulton, who shared

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her appreciation for the work

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of the Council and provided

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important district updates,

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including important information

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regarding delays in the budget

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approval affecting many schools

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throughout the district.

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Representative from the

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Children's Service Council of

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Broward County also joined us

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to provide valuable information

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about summer program resources

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and services available to

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students and families

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throughout the community. We

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engaged in discussion on

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several important topics,

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including school budget, the

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organizational chart, the

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referendum, the ai policy

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review, meal prices increased k

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through eight updates, policy

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5090 and policy 5100 suspension

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and expulsion. One of the

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primary concerns expressed by

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parents centered on student

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testing requirements and the

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implementation of the district.

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New ai policy. Parents voiced

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interest in having greater

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input during the policy

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development process, and sought

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clarification regarding whether

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the use of ai would result in

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increased screen time for

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students. I'd like to extend my

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sincere appreciation to our

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South Area Regional

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Superintendent, MISS Acott at

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Pines Collegiate, her

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leadership team, and all our

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school stakeholders,

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stakeholders from the South

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Area who attended and

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participated in our meeting

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throughout the year. I also

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want to thank the school board

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for providing me the

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opportunity to present monthly

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reports and share the

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perspective and concerns of our

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families and community members.

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On behalf of the South Area

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Advisory Council, I wish

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everyone a safe and enjoyable

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and restful summer. We look

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forward to continuing our work

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throughout the upcoming school

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year. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Diversity

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Committee. Esq Advisory Council.

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>> Good morning. I also have

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North areas report just texted

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to me. I'll do that afterwards.

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Or do you want it before?

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>> I'll. I'll go back to all

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the ones that aren't here. So

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I'll come back around to that.

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If you could deliver Esq

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advisory, that would be great.

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>> Thank you. I'd like to give

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a shout out, first of all to

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our Down Syndrome subcommittee,

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led by Chair Bach Todero and

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Andrea Thomas, the curriculum

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supervisor in the department

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who co-organized the eighth

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Annual Exceptional Educators

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Training on JUNE the 9th. This

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was a full day training open to

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all Esq teachers in Broward to

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learn about interacting with

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students with Down Syndrome and

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other disabilities. Sessions

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included behavior strategies,

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assistive technology, modified

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curriculum, managing student

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mental health, and more. There

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were partners and sponsors who

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were valuable, and

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participating. Teachers

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received a $90 stipend and

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eight s in service points. This

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was an outstanding effort by

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both organizers and the

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participants, and I'm proud of

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our ds ds committee for being

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at the head of this for the

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eighth year in a row. At our

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last Esq advisory meeting in

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MAY, we passed a recommendation

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that I did actually submit last

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week for inclusion on today's

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agenda. It was 20 words, but

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because it wasn't in a pdf,

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because I was traveling and I

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couldn't, it hasn't been placed

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on here. The motion called for

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the restoration of the s

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compliance director position to

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the org chart, which you voted

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to remove after just two

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minutes and 43 seconds of

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deliberation at the MAY 12th

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school board meeting. To recap,

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the superintendent's proposal

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had been removed. S executive

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director role on the basis that

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the Chief of Student Support

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Services could cover that role,

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and then to add an assistant

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director for s compliance,

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which he said was needed to

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support and supplement the work

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of the existing s compliance

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director. A critical caseload

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that needed more, not less,

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human capital. That shuffle

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would have ensured that no

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bodies would be lost from the s

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department leadership, and the

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wisdom you had in that

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department would be protected.

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However, a majority of you,

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having determined at a previous

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meeting that that made sense.

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You then voted on MAY the 12th

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to dismantle the plan,

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reinstate the executive

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director position, and instead

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of them eliminating the

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assistant director role you had

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agreed to add, you voted to

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eliminate the existing

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compliance director the very

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position you had agreed

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previously needed supplementing,

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not removing. It's a critical

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position. It provides dedicated

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oversight and compliance with

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special ed law helps ensure

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students receive their services

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and reduces the risk of

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systemic failures that harm

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students and expose the

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district to liability. We

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discussed it at advisory how

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framing the elimination of the

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s compliance Director position

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as a. Is this on as a cost

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saving measure is a fallacy,

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and the board's claims that you

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are making this move to help.

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Students rang hollow in a large

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school district serving

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thousands of students with

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disabilities. Compliance with

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special ed cannot be treated as

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a secondary responsibility

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shared out among already

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overextended staff. The absence

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of this position will increase

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the risk of procedural

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violations, state complaints,

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compensatory education awards,

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corrective action, litigation

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and due process cases, which

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you were told by your student

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services chief on MAY the 12th,

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are on the rise. Given the

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complexity and scale of s, the

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question is not whether the

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district can afford an s

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compliance director, but

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whether it canfford the risks

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associated with not. Our

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recommendation is no, you can't.

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Let me tell you also about

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pre-k s evaluations. I heard

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from a parent the week before

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last that while they have an

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independent autism diagnosis

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for their five year old, who

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they were looking forward to

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starting pre-k in AUGUST,

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they've been told by cps that

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she cannot, and that she must

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likely wait until DECEMBER or

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later to start school, because

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now she must go through the

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child find evaluation process.

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And that's all backed up to

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Christmas and beyond. I thank

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MRS. Hixon for her inquiries

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about this. I have passed the

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matter on to actually the Esq

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Compliance Director, and have

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been told that the pre-k

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assessment team was downsized

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over the past couple of years

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due to the reduction of

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district level positions, and

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that that's what's caused the

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backup that child and every

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00:18:12,137 --> 00:18:13,505
child in her position needs a

580
00:18:13,505 --> 00:18:14,939
commitment here today that they

581
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can start school with their

582
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:18,243
peers on AUGUST the 10th, and

583
00:18:18,243 --> 00:18:19,645
that hold ups will not be

584
00:18:19,645 --> 00:18:21,790
tolerated, and that whatever

585
00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:23,479
resources your s department

586
00:18:23,649 --> 00:18:24,917
needs to make it happen will be

587
00:18:24,917 --> 00:18:26,485
allocated. Back in DECEMBER,

588
00:18:26,485 --> 00:18:27,753
there was an elopement from a

589
00:18:27,753 --> 00:18:29,688
school that prompted us to

590
00:18:29,688 --> 00:18:31,890
revise the the district wide

591
00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:32,757
elopement plan. 22 of our

592
00:18:32,757 --> 00:18:34,459
recommendations have actually

593
00:18:34,459 --> 00:18:35,895
been adopted in the new draft.

594
00:18:35,895 --> 00:18:36,929
I'm thrilled to see the

595
00:18:36,929 --> 00:18:39,197
collaboration, and I thank

596
00:18:39,197 --> 00:18:41,233
Thomas Deutsch from the Safety

597
00:18:41,233 --> 00:18:43,369
and Security Department for his

598
00:18:43,369 --> 00:18:45,204
collaboration with us on that

599
00:18:45,204 --> 00:18:46,605
customer service. Our report is

600
00:18:46,605 --> 00:18:47,773
still pending. We've had no

601
00:18:47,773 --> 00:18:49,108
response to it whatsoever,

602
00:18:49,108 --> 00:18:50,108
despite the superintendent

603
00:18:50,108 --> 00:18:51,377
saying he was delighted with

604
00:18:51,377 --> 00:18:53,178
some of our suggestions five

605
00:18:53,178 --> 00:18:54,980
months ago. I'm dismayed at the

606
00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:56,480
delays there, and I would echo

607
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,149
what Brooke said about the

608
00:18:57,149 --> 00:18:59,952
policy review. There has been

609
00:18:59,952 --> 00:19:01,420
no engagement with the with the

610
00:19:01,420 --> 00:19:03,222
community about the policy

611
00:19:03,222 --> 00:19:04,657
review. I to request a rural

612
00:19:04,657 --> 00:19:06,125
development hearing to avoid

613
00:19:06,125 --> 00:19:08,360
further legal challenges and

614
00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,290
putting 31 policies in one item

615
00:19:10,290 --> 00:19:11,497
is not community engagement.

616
00:19:11,497 --> 00:19:12,932
Thank you.

617
00:19:12,932 --> 00:19:15,332
>> Thank you. Esol Leadership

618
00:19:20,172 --> 00:19:22,572
Council. Facilities Task force.

619
00:19:22,641 --> 00:19:24,110
Gifted. Advisory. Council.

620
00:19:24,110 --> 00:19:26,110
>> Linda Ferrara, facilities

621
00:19:26,679 --> 00:19:29,148
task force vice chair. We did

622
00:19:29,148 --> 00:19:32,510
not have a meeting for JUNE.

623
00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:33,519
>> Okay. Thank you. Gifted

624
00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:34,954
advisory Council.

625
00:19:34,954 --> 00:19:37,230
>> Good morning, Helen Bushkin

626
00:19:37,230 --> 00:19:38,224
gifted advisory. I'll start off

627
00:19:38,224 --> 00:19:39,992
with we already talked about

628
00:19:39,992 --> 00:19:41,193
our last gifted meeting, but we

629
00:19:41,193 --> 00:19:42,829
did have our steering meeting.

630
00:19:42,829 --> 00:19:44,263
And we're planning on our

631
00:19:44,263 --> 00:19:46,663
schedule and our possible

632
00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:49,601
locations coming up. This whole

633
00:19:49,601 --> 00:19:51,804
neola thing flabbergasts me

634
00:19:51,804 --> 00:19:55,740
with the amount of policies and

635
00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:57,176
the timing. Please revisit that.

636
00:19:57,176 --> 00:19:59,412
The this time of the year where

637
00:19:59,412 --> 00:20:01,180
you've got all of us volunteers

638
00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:02,615
who can provide so much more

639
00:20:02,615 --> 00:20:04,830
information aren't as available

640
00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:06,653
as we are during the year. So I

641
00:20:06,653 --> 00:20:08,788
think that's a mistake. I was

642
00:20:08,788 --> 00:20:10,890
looking briefly at the ai

643
00:20:10,890 --> 00:20:13,590
presentation that's coming up.

644
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:14,894
And yes, there's a lot of

645
00:20:14,894 --> 00:20:15,929
information inside there, but

646
00:20:15,929 --> 00:20:17,730
I'd like you guys to think

647
00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:19,499
about a few questions when

648
00:20:19,499 --> 00:20:21,899
you're listening to this

649
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,400
presentation. Think about the

650
00:20:24,704 --> 00:20:26,806
how. So when you see stuff

651
00:20:26,806 --> 00:20:28,375
about the roi and they talk

652
00:20:28,375 --> 00:20:29,542
about what they're going to

653
00:20:29,542 --> 00:20:31,770
measure, how are they going to

654
00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:32,512
measure it? Does that seem

655
00:20:32,512 --> 00:20:34,800
possible? Does it seem

656
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,649
practical? The same thing with

657
00:20:35,649 --> 00:20:36,749
some of the programs. Some of

658
00:20:36,749 --> 00:20:38,985
the things that caught my

659
00:20:38,985 --> 00:20:42,589
attention was the use of ai for

660
00:20:42,589 --> 00:20:45,910
advanced academics. Okay, how I

661
00:20:45,910 --> 00:20:46,893
see a lot of theoretical items

662
00:20:46,893 --> 00:20:49,762
inside this list, but I don't

663
00:20:49,762 --> 00:20:51,631
see anything practical. No

664
00:20:51,631 --> 00:20:52,699
examples. As far as what

665
00:20:52,699 --> 00:20:54,835
specifically is going to be

666
00:20:54,835 --> 00:20:55,936
done. It's more the same

667
00:20:55,936 --> 00:20:57,537
information, more of the same

668
00:20:57,537 --> 00:20:59,139
talk, but it's lacking a little

669
00:20:59,139 --> 00:21:01,700
bit of substance for my taste.

670
00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:02,800
So I hope there's going to be

671
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,109
something in the presentation

672
00:21:03,109 --> 00:21:05,212
that's going to expand upon

673
00:21:05,212 --> 00:21:08,181
what we've already been told.

674
00:21:08,181 --> 00:21:12,285
The next item is about some of

675
00:21:12,285 --> 00:21:13,787
our education, and I threatened,

676
00:21:13,787 --> 00:21:17,157
I think, the last meeting in a

677
00:21:17,157 --> 00:21:19,326
kind way, that there was some

678
00:21:19,326 --> 00:21:20,760
issues with handwriting. So I'm

679
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,429
looking at some of this. I

680
00:21:22,429 --> 00:21:25,798
don't know if some of you could

681
00:21:25,798 --> 00:21:27,734
really read a lot of that. You

682
00:21:27,734 --> 00:21:28,936
feel free to come up during a

683
00:21:28,936 --> 00:21:31,170
break and take a quick look.

684
00:21:31,170 --> 00:21:33,306
But this was from my daughter's

685
00:21:33,306 --> 00:21:35,706
Seminole Middle School eighth

686
00:21:36,175 --> 00:21:37,644
grade year. Here are some

687
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:40,440
letters that were handwritten

688
00:21:44,818 --> 00:21:47,818
by students. Some seem legible,

689
00:21:53,827 --> 00:21:55,262
some are not. Some are good.

690
00:21:55,262 --> 00:21:58,532
There are some things that we

691
00:21:58,532 --> 00:21:59,967
need to get back to working on.

692
00:21:59,967 --> 00:22:03,567
I also brought some of mine

693
00:22:04,338 --> 00:22:06,338
from 1986, which distinctly

694
00:22:07,808 --> 00:22:09,420
look different. I mean, in this

695
00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:12,120
my daughter first thing she

696
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,314
said was legible, and there's

697
00:22:14,314 --> 00:22:17,314
use of cursive writing. So

698
00:22:17,918 --> 00:22:21,222
clearly there was a lot more

699
00:22:21,222 --> 00:22:23,424
thought process and a motor

700
00:22:23,424 --> 00:22:25,159
coordination going on back then.

701
00:22:25,159 --> 00:22:26,627
My daughter told me that there

702
00:22:26,627 --> 00:22:28,495
wasn't a whole lot of writing

703
00:22:28,495 --> 00:22:29,563
that she did this last year in

704
00:22:29,563 --> 00:22:31,632
eighth grade, which kind of

705
00:22:31,632 --> 00:22:33,100
concerns me. And I remember

706
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,201
exercises when I was in school

707
00:22:35,201 --> 00:22:37,170
everyyriday innglish class,

708
00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:39,573
we wer given a a r random topopicnn

709
00:22:39,573 --> 00:22:41,900
the st,urur p pencil and paper

710
00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,900
in our journal. We'd write

711
00:22:44,645 --> 00:22:47,215
about it for about 15 minutes.

712
00:22:47,215 --> 00:22:48,616
I don't think I've ever seen

713
00:22:48,616 --> 00:22:49,517
anything like that. My daughter

714
00:22:49,517 --> 00:22:51,485
hasn't even told me anything

715
00:22:51,485 --> 00:22:53,287
like that. Not on a computer,

716
00:22:53,287 --> 00:22:54,721
but just a student. Given a

717
00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:56,791
topic that they know nothing

718
00:22:56,791 --> 00:22:58,659
about to write about it. And

719
00:22:58,659 --> 00:23:00,862
the teachers took that, wrote

720
00:23:00,862 --> 00:23:02,697
comments on it every week, we

721
00:23:02,697 --> 00:23:04,732
did that. So I think that's

722
00:23:04,732 --> 00:23:05,799
something that we need to think

723
00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:07,969
about more of. Instead of

724
00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:10,338
trying to use ai to help us

725
00:23:10,338 --> 00:23:12,390
with things. And since I've

726
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:13,474
talked about my daughter enough,

727
00:23:13,474 --> 00:23:17,674
I think I'll give her a chance

728
00:23:17,745 --> 00:23:18,120
to defend herself.

729
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,213
[Laughter]

730
00:23:19,213 --> 00:23:21,382
This is my daughter, Allison.

731
00:23:21,382 --> 00:23:22,817
She's an incoming freshman at

732
00:23:22,817 --> 00:23:24,817
Western High School.

733
00:23:25,353 --> 00:23:26,540
>> And what am I supposed to

734
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:27,550
say?

735
00:23:27,550 --> 00:23:28,423
>> Talk about the handwriting.

736
00:23:28,423 --> 00:23:29,757
Talk about the stuff you talked

737
00:23:29,757 --> 00:23:31,325
about. Go ahead. This is your

738
00:23:31,325 --> 00:23:32,560
time. You got a minute?

739
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,329
>> Well, I want to start with

740
00:23:34,329 --> 00:23:35,429
the writing thing in. I

741
00:23:35,429 --> 00:23:38,299
remember in third grade, it was

742
00:23:38,299 --> 00:23:40,680
Covid year and the writing we

743
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,737
wrote an essay, I think like

744
00:23:42,737 --> 00:23:44,439
every two weeks. And that set

745
00:23:44,439 --> 00:23:45,940
me up because then in fourth

746
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,542
grade, we barely wrote and we

747
00:23:47,542 --> 00:23:48,743
were all unprepared for our

748
00:23:48,743 --> 00:23:50,545
fourth grade writing fast. And

749
00:23:50,545 --> 00:23:51,746
I'm pretty sure I got a perfect

750
00:23:51,746 --> 00:23:53,548
score that year on writing, so

751
00:23:53,548 --> 00:23:54,683
i'm proud of that. And then

752
00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:56,618
fifth grade, we wrote a lot,

753
00:23:56,618 --> 00:23:57,686
and then in sixth grade we did

754
00:23:57,686 --> 00:23:58,853
some writing, and then in

755
00:23:58,853 --> 00:24:00,655
seventh grade, we didn't really

756
00:24:00,655 --> 00:24:01,856
write that much until the fast,

757
00:24:01,856 --> 00:24:03,725
and then we wrote essays from

758
00:24:03,725 --> 00:24:05,527
then until the end of the year.

759
00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,128
And then this year we only

760
00:24:07,128 --> 00:24:08,597
wrote one essay to prep for the

761
00:24:08,597 --> 00:24:10,650
fast, and then after that, we

762
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:11,867
just forgot about writing. And

763
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:13,602
we haven't done anything like

764
00:24:13,602 --> 00:24:15,690
with handwriting at all. Like,

765
00:24:15,690 --> 00:24:16,238
I don't think I remember doing

766
00:24:16,238 --> 00:24:18,239
that except in fourth grade.

767
00:24:18,239 --> 00:24:20,275
This one time we had a week for

768
00:24:20,275 --> 00:24:21,843
cursive, and I could barely

769
00:24:21,843 --> 00:24:23,645
read half of my yearbook

770
00:24:23,645 --> 00:24:25,847
signatures. And also with the

771
00:24:25,847 --> 00:24:26,915
ai thing I know how to use like

772
00:24:26,915 --> 00:24:28,817
semi-colons and Em dashes and

773
00:24:28,817 --> 00:24:30,218
like when to use them. And I've

774
00:24:30,218 --> 00:24:31,887
gotten marked for ai multiple

775
00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:32,988
times on every assignment, and

776
00:24:32,988 --> 00:24:35,988
I've gotten zeros on that

777
00:24:36,258 --> 00:24:38,658
before. Yeah. Thank you.

778
00:24:40,996 --> 00:24:43,396
>> Thank you very much.

779
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:44,999
>> Human Relations Committee.

780
00:24:44,999 --> 00:24:47,690
>> Good morning everyone. Tough

781
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:49,538
to follow that. Nancy Frye,

782
00:24:49,538 --> 00:24:51,938
Human Relations Committee chair.

783
00:24:53,175 --> 00:24:54,642
We first of all, a happy pride.

784
00:24:54,642 --> 00:24:56,712
Happy early Juneteenth and

785
00:24:56,712 --> 00:24:58,213
happy summer for everyone. We

786
00:24:58,213 --> 00:25:01,349
had our final meeting for the

787
00:25:01,349 --> 00:25:04,253
year on Wednesday, MAY 20th,

788
00:25:04,253 --> 00:25:05,687
and I find it my duty to

789
00:25:05,687 --> 00:25:07,289
profusely thank our staff that

790
00:25:07,289 --> 00:25:08,624
we've worked with during the

791
00:25:08,624 --> 00:25:11,240
school year Kalisha Russell,

792
00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:12,928
Marion Williams, Tom Albano and

793
00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:14,362
Latricia Latour. We could not

794
00:25:14,362 --> 00:25:17,232
do what we do without them.

795
00:25:17,232 --> 00:25:18,634
They are a gold star for the

796
00:25:18,634 --> 00:25:20,350
district. They are wonderful

797
00:25:20,350 --> 00:25:22,203
staff and we are very happy

798
00:25:22,203 --> 00:25:24,573
that we get to work with them.

799
00:25:24,573 --> 00:25:26,575
With that, we briefly discussed

800
00:25:26,575 --> 00:25:27,642
at our last meeting some

801
00:25:27,642 --> 00:25:29,812
concerns that we have coming up

802
00:25:29,812 --> 00:25:31,647
that will kind of feed into our

803
00:25:31,647 --> 00:25:33,480
report, wrap up report for the

804
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,282
year. But one thing that was

805
00:25:34,282 --> 00:25:36,318
brought up was some concerns

806
00:25:36,318 --> 00:25:38,920
about the effects of stress on

807
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,690
staff as of late, and how that

808
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:42,825
then impacts our students and

809
00:25:42,825 --> 00:25:44,293
also prospective families that

810
00:25:44,293 --> 00:25:46,280
are looking to come into the

811
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,695
district. No solutions or

812
00:25:46,695 --> 00:25:49,950
anything. That was just

813
00:25:49,198 --> 00:25:51,367
something that was flagged. We

814
00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:53,736
also discussed the survey that

815
00:25:53,736 --> 00:25:55,337
had come out from the office of

816
00:25:55,337 --> 00:25:57,139
the student Advisor this past

817
00:25:57,139 --> 00:25:58,607
year, the one that Landon

818
00:25:58,607 --> 00:26:01,143
Spellberg had put together and

819
00:26:01,143 --> 00:26:03,278
with his team. And we really

820
00:26:03,278 --> 00:26:05,815
loved the feedback. And it's a

821
00:26:05,815 --> 00:26:08,617
great instrument. And we want

822
00:26:08,617 --> 00:26:10,152
to emphasize that it's

823
00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:11,420
important to continue on with

824
00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:13,220
that, because a lot of students

825
00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:14,560
don't necessarily feel safe

826
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,259
giving verbal feedback or

827
00:26:16,259 --> 00:26:19,259
giving feedback on campus and

828
00:26:19,862 --> 00:26:20,997
having this alternate method to

829
00:26:20,997 --> 00:26:23,997
give feedback to the district

830
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,800
is very important. We have some

831
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,669
we have an impact summary that

832
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:29,205
was generated for the year that

833
00:26:29,205 --> 00:26:30,639
I'll just delve into really

834
00:26:30,639 --> 00:26:32,410
quickly about how our human

835
00:26:32,410 --> 00:26:33,176
relations councils in the

836
00:26:33,176 --> 00:26:35,576
schools operated, what they've

837
00:26:36,345 --> 00:26:37,547
done, and so forth. So starting

838
00:26:37,547 --> 00:26:39,649
off looking at the

839
00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:41,417
participation, we had 466

840
00:26:41,417 --> 00:26:43,953
students between grades six and

841
00:26:43,953 --> 00:26:45,421
12 that participated with the

842
00:26:45,421 --> 00:26:47,523
Human Relations Council this

843
00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:48,924
year, and that was across 63

844
00:26:48,924 --> 00:26:49,958
schools. So we're really happy

845
00:26:49,958 --> 00:26:52,295
to see that engagement, and

846
00:26:52,295 --> 00:26:54,290
we're hoping to grow it moving

847
00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:56,232
forward in the coming school

848
00:26:56,232 --> 00:26:57,333
years. As far as activities

849
00:26:57,333 --> 00:26:58,734
they do, these aren't just

850
00:26:58,734 --> 00:27:00,202
clubs exist for the sake of

851
00:27:00,202 --> 00:27:02,602
existing. These were very

852
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:03,739
active councils. They

853
00:27:03,739 --> 00:27:05,739
participate in community

854
00:27:06,276 --> 00:27:08,440
service projects that students

855
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,546
organized to benefit both their

856
00:27:09,546 --> 00:27:12,480
schools and in the local

857
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,482
community. They led advocacy

858
00:27:13,482 --> 00:27:15,217
campaigns and awareness events

859
00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:17,420
around mental health, bullying,

860
00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:18,955
prevention and equity. They

861
00:27:18,955 --> 00:27:20,657
held open dialog, forums and

862
00:27:20,657 --> 00:27:23,570
peer discussions. They really

863
00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:25,662
focused on youth advocacy. They.

864
00:27:25,662 --> 00:27:27,163
Their meetings were safe spaces

865
00:27:27,163 --> 00:27:28,964
for students to discuss social

866
00:27:28,964 --> 00:27:30,433
issues and collaborate on

867
00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:32,200
solutions. They also had

868
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,637
surveys and feedback campaigns

869
00:27:33,637 --> 00:27:35,804
that they initiated in their

870
00:27:35,804 --> 00:27:36,872
schools, and they went through

871
00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:37,942
leadership training and

872
00:27:37,942 --> 00:27:40,760
development. They had their

873
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,945
college tours and a student

874
00:27:41,945 --> 00:27:43,413
advocacy through capital days.

875
00:27:43,413 --> 00:27:45,215
They worked on their public

876
00:27:45,215 --> 00:27:46,917
speaking, teamwork and civic

877
00:27:46,917 --> 00:27:48,510
engagement skills, and they had

878
00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:49,853
a number of structured

879
00:27:49,853 --> 00:27:51,621
leadership activities to do

880
00:27:51,621 --> 00:27:53,423
that. Some of the key

881
00:27:53,423 --> 00:27:55,559
challenges they see facing our

882
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,959
students are mental health

883
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:59,562
concerns was the top one, and

884
00:27:59,562 --> 00:28:00,697
they're asking for awareness,

885
00:28:00,697 --> 00:28:02,833
resources and a more emotional

886
00:28:02,833 --> 00:28:04,334
support in the schools. They

887
00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:05,669
spoke about social media issues

888
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:08,690
with online bullying and

889
00:28:08,205 --> 00:28:10,205
negative self-image, substance

890
00:28:10,407 --> 00:28:11,575
use and violence, vaping, drug

891
00:28:11,575 --> 00:28:13,944
use, bullying, dating, violence

892
00:28:13,944 --> 00:28:15,345
and general school violence.

893
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,614
And the one thing that I

894
00:28:17,614 --> 00:28:19,149
thought was very astute was

895
00:28:19,149 --> 00:28:20,751
they talked about the need for

896
00:28:20,751 --> 00:28:22,252
supportive interventions. And

897
00:28:22,252 --> 00:28:24,200
students are asking for open

898
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,489
conversations and preventative

899
00:28:25,489 --> 00:28:27,624
education and supportive, not

900
00:28:27,624 --> 00:28:29,624
punitive responses. When

901
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:33,460
students make less than ideal

902
00:28:34,398 --> 00:28:35,833
choices, a number of our

903
00:28:35,833 --> 00:28:37,670
advisors and students helped

904
00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:38,802
their schools achieve no Place

905
00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:41,710
for hate designation. We're up

906
00:28:41,710 --> 00:28:42,372
to in the district 106 schools

907
00:28:42,372 --> 00:28:45,372
that are designated no Place

908
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:47,745
for hate. From the advisors

909
00:28:47,745 --> 00:28:49,913
side, we received a lot of

910
00:28:49,913 --> 00:28:51,415
feedback about students had

911
00:28:51,415 --> 00:28:53,183
increased confidence and

912
00:28:53,183 --> 00:28:54,652
leadership growth through

913
00:28:54,652 --> 00:28:57,121
participating with hrc and No

914
00:28:57,121 --> 00:28:58,922
Place for Hate. Students were

915
00:28:58,922 --> 00:29:00,240
active in planning events, were

916
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,910
engaged in their community

917
00:29:01,910 --> 00:29:03,491
service, and represented their

918
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,129
peers in meetings. And again,

919
00:29:06,129 --> 00:29:07,531
the hrc meetings were a safe

920
00:29:07,531 --> 00:29:09,767
space for students to share

921
00:29:09,767 --> 00:29:12,167
concerns and propose solutions

922
00:29:12,903 --> 00:29:14,138
openly. And a couple of quotes

923
00:29:14,138 --> 00:29:15,872
that we had from both students

924
00:29:15,872 --> 00:29:18,410
and advisors. One high school

925
00:29:18,410 --> 00:29:19,409
student stated, hrc gave me my

926
00:29:19,409 --> 00:29:20,877
first real opportunity to feel

927
00:29:20,877 --> 00:29:22,679
heard in my school. I learned

928
00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:24,382
to speak up for myself and

929
00:29:24,382 --> 00:29:25,616
others, and a middle school

930
00:29:25,616 --> 00:29:26,684
student said being part of hrc

931
00:29:26,684 --> 00:29:27,785
helped me understand people

932
00:29:27,785 --> 00:29:30,185
from different backgrounds. It

933
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:32,123
changed how I see the world

934
00:29:32,123 --> 00:29:33,124
from two of the advisors, one

935
00:29:33,124 --> 00:29:34,759
said. I watched students who

936
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:35,893
were once shy become confident

937
00:29:35,893 --> 00:29:37,495
leaders who organized events

938
00:29:37,495 --> 00:29:38,896
and spoke at forums, and

939
00:29:38,896 --> 00:29:39,997
another said hrc meetings

940
00:29:39,997 --> 00:29:41,650
became a safe space where

941
00:29:41,650 --> 00:29:43,200
students could share real

942
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,503
concerns and work together on

943
00:29:45,503 --> 00:29:46,837
solutions. So moving forward,

944
00:29:46,837 --> 00:29:48,272
we're looking at better

945
00:29:48,272 --> 00:29:50,740
collecting data, increasing

946
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:52,740
student participation and

947
00:29:53,144 --> 00:29:55,144
expanding feedback initiatives.

948
00:29:56,147 --> 00:29:57,548
Thank you.

949
00:29:57,548 --> 00:29:59,548
>> Thank you. Multilingual

950
00:30:01,585 --> 00:30:03,585
advisory committee.

951
00:30:03,721 --> 00:30:06,121
>> Hi. Good morning. School

952
00:30:06,923 --> 00:30:09,126
board chair and superintendent.

953
00:30:09,126 --> 00:30:10,395
Thank you, as usual, for this

954
00:30:10,395 --> 00:30:12,795
opportunity to report directly

955
00:30:13,398 --> 00:30:14,899
to you this morning. The

956
00:30:14,899 --> 00:30:16,899
multilingual Advisory committee

957
00:30:18,869 --> 00:30:21,739
met for the last time this year,

958
00:30:21,739 --> 00:30:23,908
MAY 13th. At that meeting, I'm

959
00:30:23,908 --> 00:30:25,430
happy to report that all of the

960
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:27,845
positions that were open to be

961
00:30:27,845 --> 00:30:29,647
filled for next year have been

962
00:30:29,647 --> 00:30:31,783
filled, and the one remaining

963
00:30:31,783 --> 00:30:34,183
position is the superintendent

964
00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:36,855
designee, and the district

965
00:30:36,855 --> 00:30:37,856
liaison is aware of our

966
00:30:37,856 --> 00:30:40,256
recommendation for who that

967
00:30:43,695 --> 00:30:46,197
should be. At that meeting, two

968
00:30:46,197 --> 00:30:48,365
motions were passed of

969
00:30:48,365 --> 00:30:51,365
recommendations to you all. The

970
00:30:53,438 --> 00:30:54,805
first one was to set a minimum

971
00:30:54,805 --> 00:30:55,873
number of kindergarten

972
00:30:55,873 --> 00:30:58,273
classrooms for any dual

973
00:30:59,477 --> 00:31:01,877
language program. Currently, it

974
00:31:02,714 --> 00:31:03,848
varies between schools. Our

975
00:31:03,848 --> 00:31:06,248
recommendation is that the

976
00:31:06,752 --> 00:31:08,653
minimum be two, so that one

977
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:11,890
side of a full classroom of,

978
00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:12,490
say, 24 students would be with

979
00:31:12,490 --> 00:31:13,924
an English speaking homeroom

980
00:31:13,924 --> 00:31:15,359
teacher. One side would be with

981
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,128
a Spanish speaking homeroom

982
00:31:17,128 --> 00:31:18,563
teacher, and they would switch

983
00:31:18,563 --> 00:31:21,563
either in the afternoon or

984
00:31:22,166 --> 00:31:23,635
every other day. The other

985
00:31:23,635 --> 00:31:25,403
option, which some schools are

986
00:31:25,403 --> 00:31:27,605
taking, is to have one

987
00:31:27,605 --> 00:31:29,400
classroom of a self-contained

988
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,475
teacher who switches back and

989
00:31:30,475 --> 00:31:32,875
forth between Spanish and

990
00:31:35,179 --> 00:31:37,579
English. Our recommendation was

991
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,616
made, and the motion was passed

992
00:31:41,687 --> 00:31:44,156
unanimously. Based on a few

993
00:31:44,156 --> 00:31:45,924
things anecdotally, with

994
00:31:45,924 --> 00:31:48,594
members of the committee that

995
00:31:48,594 --> 00:31:50,161
we've noticed that when you

996
00:31:50,161 --> 00:31:51,396
even when you start out with

997
00:31:51,396 --> 00:31:53,899
two classrooms, which would be

998
00:31:53,899 --> 00:31:55,700
like 44 kids in kindergarten,

999
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,870
it's possible to make it to

1000
00:31:57,870 --> 00:31:59,637
eighth grade and have only five

1001
00:31:59,637 --> 00:32:01,806
students of that original class

1002
00:32:01,806 --> 00:32:04,343
still in that dual language

1003
00:32:04,343 --> 00:32:06,844
track. So if that can happen

1004
00:32:06,844 --> 00:32:08,614
with 44 students, what then

1005
00:32:08,614 --> 00:32:12,214
will happen if a school decides

1006
00:32:12,951 --> 00:32:15,951
to start only with 24? The

1007
00:32:17,589 --> 00:32:18,824
motion was passed based on the

1008
00:32:18,824 --> 00:32:20,192
experience of our teachers on

1009
00:32:20,192 --> 00:32:21,626
the committee, who say that

1010
00:32:21,626 --> 00:32:22,761
they've done both the

1011
00:32:22,761 --> 00:32:24,761
self-contained classroom and

1012
00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:25,998
the switching back and forth

1013
00:32:25,998 --> 00:32:28,400
and being a dual language

1014
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,902
teacher comes with additional

1015
00:32:29,902 --> 00:32:31,671
responsibilities. That much is

1016
00:32:31,671 --> 00:32:33,805
known, but it's so much harder

1017
00:32:33,805 --> 00:32:35,307
to do it yourself and to have

1018
00:32:35,307 --> 00:32:37,442
to switch back and forth

1019
00:32:37,442 --> 00:32:39,545
between Spanish and English and

1020
00:32:39,545 --> 00:32:42,614
carry that whole load without a

1021
00:32:42,614 --> 00:32:45,614
teacher partner. It was brought

1022
00:32:46,284 --> 00:32:47,653
up by people who participated

1023
00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:49,255
in the public comment portion

1024
00:32:49,255 --> 00:32:50,456
of our meetings. We always have

1025
00:32:50,456 --> 00:32:51,523
a public comment portion of our

1026
00:32:51,523 --> 00:32:53,425
meetings, and that's where we

1027
00:32:53,425 --> 00:32:55,795
get a lot of feedback as well.

1028
00:32:55,795 --> 00:32:57,630
In addition to school visits

1029
00:32:57,630 --> 00:32:59,650
that was very stridently

1030
00:32:59,650 --> 00:33:01,534
brought forth at our last

1031
00:33:01,534 --> 00:33:03,336
meeting. And finally, what I

1032
00:33:03,336 --> 00:33:05,104
wish I could say is that the

1033
00:33:05,104 --> 00:33:07,504
recommendation was based on

1034
00:33:08,406 --> 00:33:10,509
statistics. I did as chair

1035
00:33:10,509 --> 00:33:13,509
request and worked with the

1036
00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:15,581
district statistician to try to

1037
00:33:15,581 --> 00:33:16,983
understand how many of our

1038
00:33:16,983 --> 00:33:18,284
middle school dual language

1039
00:33:18,284 --> 00:33:20,219
students actually started in

1040
00:33:20,219 --> 00:33:23,219
the program in kindergarten or

1041
00:33:23,555 --> 00:33:25,291
first grade. I didn't ever get

1042
00:33:25,291 --> 00:33:27,125
those statistics. This year,

1043
00:33:27,125 --> 00:33:28,527
the district doesn't know how

1044
00:33:28,527 --> 00:33:29,996
many of its eighth graders

1045
00:33:29,996 --> 00:33:31,130
started in kindergarten or

1046
00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:32,865
first grade. They don't know

1047
00:33:32,865 --> 00:33:34,166
how many of its finishing fifth

1048
00:33:34,166 --> 00:33:35,735
graders started in kindergarten

1049
00:33:35,735 --> 00:33:37,937
or first grade. And I really

1050
00:33:37,937 --> 00:33:40,406
hope that moving forward with

1051
00:33:40,406 --> 00:33:42,207
the district, revamping the

1052
00:33:42,207 --> 00:33:44,510
program and taking more control

1053
00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:47,579
over it, that they will start

1054
00:33:47,579 --> 00:33:50,579
to track those very important

1055
00:33:51,384 --> 00:33:53,190
questions. The second motion

1056
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:56,190
that we passed was a

1057
00:33:56,656 --> 00:33:57,790
recommendation that across all

1058
00:33:57,790 --> 00:34:00,190
elementary schools that have

1059
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:04,660
the dual language program, that

1060
00:34:05,632 --> 00:34:07,330
they perform assessments of

1061
00:34:07,330 --> 00:34:08,701
students, Spanish language

1062
00:34:08,701 --> 00:34:10,637
ability, but that the results

1063
00:34:10,637 --> 00:34:13,172
of those assessments do not

1064
00:34:13,172 --> 00:34:15,308
then turn into grades or things

1065
00:34:15,308 --> 00:34:17,143
that affect students.

1066
00:34:17,143 --> 00:34:18,944
Eligibility for principal honor

1067
00:34:18,944 --> 00:34:21,114
roll or advancement into the

1068
00:34:21,114 --> 00:34:22,549
next grade. And the reason is

1069
00:34:22,549 --> 00:34:23,984
that at the elementary level,

1070
00:34:23,984 --> 00:34:25,785
there's still a big disparity,

1071
00:34:25,785 --> 00:34:27,119
of course, in Spanish language

1072
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,321
ability between students who

1073
00:34:28,321 --> 00:34:29,722
are coming from Spanish

1074
00:34:29,722 --> 00:34:30,490
speaking households and

1075
00:34:30,490 --> 00:34:32,920
students coming from

1076
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,894
non-Spanish speaking households.

1077
00:34:33,894 --> 00:34:36,263
And we want to do everything in

1078
00:34:36,263 --> 00:34:37,631
our power to keep students

1079
00:34:37,631 --> 00:34:39,631
together through elementary

1080
00:34:39,866 --> 00:34:41,234
school and not dissuade

1081
00:34:41,234 --> 00:34:43,403
students and families from

1082
00:34:43,403 --> 00:34:45,405
staying in the program because

1083
00:34:45,405 --> 00:34:48,750
it might be adversely affecting

1084
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:50,977
their grade. And so the final

1085
00:34:50,977 --> 00:34:53,613
thing I'll say is that I hope

1086
00:34:53,613 --> 00:34:54,915
that the district next year

1087
00:34:54,915 --> 00:34:56,149
takes advantage of the

1088
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:58,149
multilingual advisory committee

1089
00:34:58,518 --> 00:35:02,718
and keeps it in the loop with

1090
00:35:03,222 --> 00:35:06,822
their plans to revamp the dual

1091
00:35:07,526 --> 00:35:08,928
language program next year.

1092
00:35:08,928 --> 00:35:10,397
>> Thank you. Parent Community

1093
00:35:10,397 --> 00:35:12,397
Involvement Task Force.

1094
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:15,135
>> Good morning. During our

1095
00:35:15,135 --> 00:35:16,904
final task force meeting of the

1096
00:35:16,904 --> 00:35:17,971
school year on JUNE 1st, we

1097
00:35:17,971 --> 00:35:19,772
discussed several important

1098
00:35:19,772 --> 00:35:21,241
topics that reflect both

1099
00:35:21,241 --> 00:35:22,643
opportunities and concerns

1100
00:35:22,643 --> 00:35:25,546
being raised by families and

1101
00:35:25,546 --> 00:35:27,314
community members. One area of

1102
00:35:27,314 --> 00:35:28,782
significant concern was the

1103
00:35:28,782 --> 00:35:29,849
experience of using

1104
00:35:29,849 --> 00:35:31,685
facilitation for reserving

1105
00:35:31,685 --> 00:35:33,453
school and other district

1106
00:35:33,453 --> 00:35:35,288
facilities. Task force members

1107
00:35:35,288 --> 00:35:36,690
shared multiple recent

1108
00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:38,158
experiences involving

1109
00:35:38,158 --> 00:35:40,158
complicated processes,

1110
00:35:40,661 --> 00:35:41,729
unexpected costs, communication

1111
00:35:41,729 --> 00:35:43,897
challenges, and barriers to

1112
00:35:43,897 --> 00:35:45,650
hosting school events. And

1113
00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:46,700
while the system was designed

1114
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:47,835
to streamline facility

1115
00:35:47,835 --> 00:35:50,370
utilization in a fair and

1116
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:51,205
compliant manner, many, many

1117
00:35:51,205 --> 00:35:52,906
stakeholders have reported that

1118
00:35:52,906 --> 00:35:54,708
it is creating obstacles,

1119
00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:56,876
delays, and frustration rather

1120
00:35:56,876 --> 00:35:58,312
than enabling access, and I

1121
00:35:58,312 --> 00:35:59,413
recognize that this topic was

1122
00:35:59,413 --> 00:36:00,847
discussed earlier in the year,

1123
00:36:00,847 --> 00:36:02,916
and that efforts were made to

1124
00:36:02,916 --> 00:36:04,785
address some of those concerns.

1125
00:36:04,785 --> 00:36:06,554
However, I can tell you that

1126
00:36:06,554 --> 00:36:07,988
challenges remain, and what MAY

1127
00:36:07,988 --> 00:36:10,190
appear to be an operational

1128
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:12,260
issue is really an engagement

1129
00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,127
issue. When PTAs, booster clubs

1130
00:36:14,127 --> 00:36:15,196
and other school affiliated

1131
00:36:15,196 --> 00:36:17,300
organizations encounter

1132
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,650
unnecessary barriers, it

1133
00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:20,234
becomes more difficult to

1134
00:36:20,234 --> 00:36:21,268
create the very events and

1135
00:36:21,268 --> 00:36:23,104
opportunities that bring

1136
00:36:23,104 --> 00:36:25,272
families into our schools and

1137
00:36:25,272 --> 00:36:26,741
strengthen our communities. The

1138
00:36:26,741 --> 00:36:28,175
task force believes it is

1139
00:36:28,175 --> 00:36:29,609
important to continue

1140
00:36:29,609 --> 00:36:31,145
evaluating whether current

1141
00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:33,581
practices are meeting the needs

1142
00:36:33,581 --> 00:36:35,382
of both schools and community

1143
00:36:35,382 --> 00:36:37,180
users. We encourage the

1144
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,418
district to gather feedback

1145
00:36:39,654 --> 00:36:40,754
from internal and external

1146
00:36:40,754 --> 00:36:42,389
stakeholders to better

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00:36:42,389 --> 00:36:44,389
understand their experiences

1148
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,492
and identify opportunities for

1149
00:36:47,527 --> 00:36:49,429
improvement. A large portion of

1150
00:36:49,429 --> 00:36:50,865
our conversation focused on the

1151
00:36:50,865 --> 00:36:52,865
district's implementation of

1152
00:36:53,366 --> 00:36:55,136
artificial intelligence. The

1153
00:36:55,136 --> 00:36:57,380
parent, our task force, was

1154
00:36:57,380 --> 00:36:59,507
grateful for the opportunity to

1155
00:36:59,507 --> 00:37:01,275
participate in the recent ai

1156
00:37:01,275 --> 00:37:03,411
symposium, and we hosted our

1157
00:37:03,411 --> 00:37:05,811
first ever in-person parent

1158
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,549
university session. As families

1159
00:37:08,549 --> 00:37:10,618
continue learning about ai and

1160
00:37:10,618 --> 00:37:12,820
its role in education, they are

1161
00:37:12,820 --> 00:37:14,622
asking thoughtful and important

1162
00:37:14,622 --> 00:37:16,457
questions about data privacy,

1163
00:37:16,457 --> 00:37:17,492
student safety, and the

1164
00:37:17,492 --> 00:37:18,926
development of critical

1165
00:37:18,926 --> 00:37:21,950
thinking and writing skills,

1166
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:23,264
and how ai will be introduced

1167
00:37:23,264 --> 00:37:25,990
across grade levels. Task force

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00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:26,434
Members members emphasized the

1169
00:37:26,434 --> 00:37:28,368
importance of communicating

1170
00:37:28,368 --> 00:37:29,770
with clarity, creating

1171
00:37:29,770 --> 00:37:31,539
opportunities for ongoing

1172
00:37:31,539 --> 00:37:33,374
dialog, and ensuring that

1173
00:37:33,374 --> 00:37:35,877
families are partners in this

1174
00:37:35,877 --> 00:37:38,450
work. As this technology

1175
00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:39,814
continues to evolve, we must be

1176
00:37:39,814 --> 00:37:41,648
willing not only to share

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00:37:41,648 --> 00:37:43,752
information, but also to listen,

1178
00:37:43,752 --> 00:37:44,853
learn and adapt based on

1179
00:37:44,853 --> 00:37:46,853
feedback from students,

1180
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:48,223
families, and educators. We

1181
00:37:48,223 --> 00:37:49,923
hope the conversation the board

1182
00:37:49,923 --> 00:37:51,759
will hold today at today's

1183
00:37:51,759 --> 00:37:53,161
workshop will be continued at

1184
00:37:53,161 --> 00:37:56,310
every level of the district on

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00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:57,832
a regular basis and with

1186
00:37:57,832 --> 00:37:59,667
preemptive transparency,

1187
00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:01,667
authentic collaboration, and

1188
00:38:02,137 --> 00:38:03,605
respect for all perspectives.

1189
00:38:03,605 --> 00:38:05,390
Finally, members shared

1190
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:06,475
concerns about potential

1191
00:38:06,475 --> 00:38:08,578
changes to policies around

1192
00:38:08,578 --> 00:38:09,644
community participation and

1193
00:38:09,644 --> 00:38:11,579
barriers that MAY

1194
00:38:11,579 --> 00:38:13,281
unintentionally limit

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00:38:13,281 --> 00:38:14,782
participation. The task Force

1196
00:38:14,782 --> 00:38:16,584
remains committed to ensuring

1197
00:38:16,584 --> 00:38:18,584
that engagement opportunities

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00:38:18,754 --> 00:38:20,889
remain accessible and welcoming

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00:38:20,889 --> 00:38:22,323
to the diverse families and

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00:38:22,323 --> 00:38:24,723
community. Community members we

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00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:26,361
serve. As the district begins

1202
00:38:26,361 --> 00:38:28,729
planning for next school year,

1203
00:38:28,729 --> 00:38:30,265
I would encourage all of us to

1204
00:38:30,265 --> 00:38:32,340
keep families and community

1205
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:34,235
members at the forefront of our

1206
00:38:34,235 --> 00:38:35,637
thinking. Strong schools are

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00:38:35,637 --> 00:38:37,439
built through strong

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00:38:37,439 --> 00:38:39,607
partnerships, whether we are

1209
00:38:39,607 --> 00:38:41,343
discussing technology,

1210
00:38:41,343 --> 00:38:43,211
communications, volunteering,

1211
00:38:43,211 --> 00:38:44,613
facility use or student

1212
00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:46,515
supports. Our greatest success

1213
00:38:46,515 --> 00:38:47,883
will come when families,

1214
00:38:47,883 --> 00:38:49,284
educators, community partners,

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00:38:49,284 --> 00:38:51,119
district staff and the school

1216
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,287
board work together toward a

1217
00:38:53,287 --> 00:38:54,822
shared vision for students. As

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00:38:54,822 --> 00:38:56,491
we conclude this year, I would

1219
00:38:56,491 --> 00:38:57,959
like to thank Superintendent

1220
00:38:57,959 --> 00:38:59,795
Hepburn, the school board,

1221
00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:01,897
district staff and my fellow

1222
00:39:01,897 --> 00:39:03,732
task Force members for their

1223
00:39:03,732 --> 00:39:05,868
partnership. A special thank

1224
00:39:05,868 --> 00:39:07,836
you to Doctor Lori Canning,

1225
00:39:07,836 --> 00:39:09,538
Nadia Clark, Naviance Joseph

1226
00:39:09,538 --> 00:39:11,673
and the entire face team for

1227
00:39:11,673 --> 00:39:12,675
their incredible support of

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00:39:12,675 --> 00:39:14,543
family and community engagement

1229
00:39:14,543 --> 00:39:16,711
throughout the district. We

1230
00:39:16,711 --> 00:39:18,179
look forward to continuing the

1231
00:39:18,179 --> 00:39:19,915
important work of supporting

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00:39:19,915 --> 00:39:21,684
Broward County students,

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00:39:21,684 --> 00:39:24,684
families and the community next

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00:39:24,687 --> 00:39:26,550
year. Thank you.

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00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:28,455
>> Thank you. Small Business

1236
00:39:28,524 --> 00:39:30,524
Advisory Committee, Technology

1237
00:39:32,927 --> 00:39:34,927
Advisory Committee.

1238
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:37,599
>> Good morning chair, board

1239
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,000
members. Superintendent Linda

1240
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Ferrara, chair, Technology

1241
00:39:41,737 --> 00:39:43,305
Advisory Committee. We started.

1242
00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:44,406
We discussed the ongoing

1243
00:39:44,406 --> 00:39:46,806
development of the district's

1244
00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:49,478
ai policy, focusing on parental

1245
00:39:49,478 --> 00:39:51,214
opt out provisions,

1246
00:39:51,214 --> 00:39:52,681
environmental considerations,

1247
00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:54,490
and the process for board

1248
00:39:54,490 --> 00:39:55,551
review, with input from the tac

1249
00:39:55,551 --> 00:39:57,951
and other stakeholders being

1250
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:01,724
incorporated into the draft. An

1251
00:40:01,724 --> 00:40:03,492
update on the erp system

1252
00:40:03,492 --> 00:40:05,628
selection process was given,

1253
00:40:05,628 --> 00:40:07,290
outlining the current rfp phase.

1254
00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:08,898
Upcoming software

1255
00:40:08,898 --> 00:40:10,399
demonstrations, evaluation

1256
00:40:10,399 --> 00:40:11,766
criteria, and the timeline for

1257
00:40:11,766 --> 00:40:12,501
board approval and

1258
00:40:12,501 --> 00:40:14,303
implementation, with Plant

1259
00:40:14,303 --> 00:40:16,703
Moran advising the district

1260
00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:19,206
throughout presentation from

1261
00:40:19,275 --> 00:40:21,770
the recent Microsoft Build

1262
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:22,945
conference highlighting new ai

1263
00:40:22,945 --> 00:40:23,645
models, customization

1264
00:40:23,645 --> 00:40:25,415
capabilities, and the

1265
00:40:25,415 --> 00:40:26,848
district's approach to ai agent

1266
00:40:26,848 --> 00:40:28,848
development, security testing,

1267
00:40:29,419 --> 00:40:31,819
and governance within Microsoft

1268
00:40:32,355 --> 00:40:33,689
ecosystem was discussed. We

1269
00:40:33,689 --> 00:40:35,490
discussed ongoing concerns

1270
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:37,126
about tax roll in district

1271
00:40:37,126 --> 00:40:39,161
technology decisions, the need

1272
00:40:39,161 --> 00:40:41,161
for improved communication

1273
00:40:41,297 --> 00:40:42,731
pathways, early agenda item

1274
00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:44,167
distribution and formal

1275
00:40:44,167 --> 00:40:46,567
inclusion in ai related

1276
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:48,838
committees, and task force. An

1277
00:40:48,838 --> 00:40:50,639
update was provided on the

1278
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,639
Maximo system rollout,

1279
00:40:52,742 --> 00:40:54,610
detailing progress on mobile

1280
00:40:54,610 --> 00:40:55,979
client deployment assessment,

1281
00:40:55,979 --> 00:40:57,580
data entry training efforts,

1282
00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:00,383
and the transition away from

1283
00:41:00,383 --> 00:41:01,818
the paper based work orders.

1284
00:41:01,818 --> 00:41:03,818
Members addressed the

1285
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,720
transition from Raptor to

1286
00:41:07,189 --> 00:41:08,691
Syngenta for visitor management,

1287
00:41:08,691 --> 00:41:10,393
noting that the contract was

1288
00:41:10,393 --> 00:41:12,595
approved without tac or it

1289
00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:14,300
input, highlighting ongoing

1290
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:15,832
communication issues between

1291
00:41:15,832 --> 00:41:18,232
departments. One of the

1292
00:41:18,702 --> 00:41:20,169
concerns, not only that was

1293
00:41:20,169 --> 00:41:21,838
focused on by tac, but has been

1294
00:41:21,838 --> 00:41:23,306
brought up a number of times,

1295
00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:24,574
was our Raptor system.

1296
00:41:24,574 --> 00:41:26,977
Evidently, this system is also

1297
00:41:26,977 --> 00:41:28,344
a visitor management system,

1298
00:41:28,344 --> 00:41:29,879
and I haven't looked through

1299
00:41:29,879 --> 00:41:30,980
the entire contract yet, but it

1300
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:32,150
doesn't appear that it

1301
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:33,820
addressed the issues that

1302
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:35,850
parents have brought up with

1303
00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:37,820
the system. Some of the follow

1304
00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:39,256
up tasks we have are ai policy,

1305
00:41:39,256 --> 00:41:41,570
environmental impact. Add

1306
00:41:41,570 --> 00:41:42,491
language to the policy,

1307
00:41:42,491 --> 00:41:43,926
addressing the environmental

1308
00:41:43,926 --> 00:41:45,328
impact and sustainability

1309
00:41:45,328 --> 00:41:48,328
considerations of ai usage in

1310
00:41:48,431 --> 00:41:50,400
the district. Parent education

1311
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,903
on ai develop and distribute

1312
00:41:52,903 --> 00:41:54,370
parent facing educational

1313
00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:56,139
materials or a handbook about

1314
00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:57,941
ai use in the district,

1315
00:41:57,941 --> 00:41:59,209
ensuring collaboration with tac

1316
00:41:59,209 --> 00:42:01,609
and addressing parent concerns

1317
00:42:02,646 --> 00:42:05,460
and questions. Parent questions

1318
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:08,752
on ai collect top ten questions

1319
00:42:08,752 --> 00:42:09,486
from the dac Educational

1320
00:42:09,486 --> 00:42:10,886
Subcommittee and provide

1321
00:42:10,886 --> 00:42:13,286
written answers to address

1322
00:42:14,158 --> 00:42:15,993
parent concerns about ai

1323
00:42:15,993 --> 00:42:17,794
communication of board agenda

1324
00:42:17,794 --> 00:42:19,596
items. Establish a process to

1325
00:42:19,596 --> 00:42:21,310
inform tac of technology

1326
00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:22,799
related items before they are

1327
00:42:22,799 --> 00:42:25,702
brought to the school board for

1328
00:42:25,702 --> 00:42:27,504
approval. I would like to thank

1329
00:42:27,504 --> 00:42:28,839
our committee and all who

1330
00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:30,340
participate, and every time I

1331
00:42:30,340 --> 00:42:33,340
come across somebody who has

1332
00:42:33,609 --> 00:42:35,411
any input, any opinion or

1333
00:42:35,411 --> 00:42:36,880
anything I have invited to the

1334
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,280
meeting they've attended and

1335
00:42:39,383 --> 00:42:40,350
they have provided really great

1336
00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:42,750
information, especially at our

1337
00:42:43,319 --> 00:42:44,755
last meeting by Doctor Piper.

1338
00:42:44,755 --> 00:42:46,489
At our next meeting, I

1339
00:42:46,489 --> 00:42:47,758
recommend we have a

1340
00:42:47,758 --> 00:42:49,893
conversation on school board

1341
00:42:49,893 --> 00:42:52,293
and committee expectations for

1342
00:42:52,329 --> 00:42:53,764
the next year in order to

1343
00:42:53,764 --> 00:42:56,764
clarify both of our purposes

1344
00:42:57,201 --> 00:43:00,201
and our agendas moving forward.

1345
00:43:00,204 --> 00:43:02,204
Thank you.

1346
00:43:07,144 --> 00:43:08,279
>> Thank you, audit Committee.

1347
00:43:08,279 --> 00:43:10,714
>> Good morning sir. I was a

1348
00:43:10,714 --> 00:43:12,883
few minutes late. I did MISS

1349
00:43:12,883 --> 00:43:14,385
You all last month as I was ill

1350
00:43:14,385 --> 00:43:17,385
and figured you probably did

1351
00:43:17,655 --> 00:43:20,791
not want to share, so I'm just

1352
00:43:20,791 --> 00:43:22,892
going to catch up. I'm just

1353
00:43:22,892 --> 00:43:24,280
going to just just mention a

1354
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,296
couple things. I know those

1355
00:43:25,296 --> 00:43:27,330
things have. You've probably

1356
00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:30,200
seen what we did and just, you

1357
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,968
know, we do have a court

1358
00:43:30,968 --> 00:43:32,737
reporter at our meetings and we

1359
00:43:32,737 --> 00:43:34,205
do have very comprehensive

1360
00:43:34,205 --> 00:43:36,440
minutes, which I know you

1361
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,541
>> Get, but I'll just wanted to

1362
00:43:37,541 --> 00:43:40,100
highlight a couple of things

1363
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,611
from our MAY 7th meeting. We

1364
00:43:41,611 --> 00:43:44,110
spent an extraordinary amount

1365
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:45,749
of time on internal funds,

1366
00:43:45,749 --> 00:43:48,319
probably more than our agenda

1367
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:50,521
had anticipated. So we actually

1368
00:43:50,521 --> 00:43:53,357
set up a special meeting the

1369
00:43:53,357 --> 00:43:54,459
following. But I just took a

1370
00:43:54,459 --> 00:43:56,260
couple things I wanted to

1371
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:57,695
highlight in there. There was

1372
00:43:57,695 --> 00:43:59,530
concern about the number of

1373
00:43:59,530 --> 00:44:02,530
exceptions in high schools. And

1374
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:04,502
we were and we've, you know,

1375
00:44:04,502 --> 00:44:06,400
we're focused on that. Some of

1376
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,739
them dealt with yearbooks. And

1377
00:44:07,739 --> 00:44:10,607
that's a whole nother topic.

1378
00:44:10,607 --> 00:44:12,477
And one which actually was, was

1379
00:44:12,477 --> 00:44:14,611
very informative as far as

1380
00:44:14,611 --> 00:44:15,880
what's as trends with yearbooks

1381
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,716
now and some of the things that

1382
00:44:18,716 --> 00:44:21,850
are going on. But I just wanted

1383
00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:23,555
to say that the, our audit, our

1384
00:44:23,555 --> 00:44:25,230
chief auditor's office is so

1385
00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:26,457
efficient that they let us know

1386
00:44:26,457 --> 00:44:28,920
that we actually had fewer

1387
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,495
exceptions this year than last

1388
00:44:30,495 --> 00:44:32,430
year. But the bottom line on

1389
00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:33,698
that is that we just wanted to

1390
00:44:33,698 --> 00:44:35,698
emphasize how important

1391
00:44:35,834 --> 00:44:37,268
training is for everybody, not

1392
00:44:37,268 --> 00:44:38,536
just the people at the top, but

1393
00:44:38,536 --> 00:44:40,571
the people through. Everybody

1394
00:44:40,571 --> 00:44:43,407
needs to receive training on

1395
00:44:43,407 --> 00:44:45,176
how to account for whatever

1396
00:44:45,176 --> 00:44:46,344
they're working with. So I

1397
00:44:46,344 --> 00:44:47,846
wanted to mention that we did

1398
00:44:47,846 --> 00:44:49,247
set a special meeting because

1399
00:44:49,247 --> 00:44:50,582
as you know, we're coming up

1400
00:44:50,582 --> 00:44:54,182
with the audit plan for next

1401
00:44:54,553 --> 00:44:56,554
year. And we had a wonderful

1402
00:44:56,554 --> 00:44:58,523
conversation on both the 7th of

1403
00:44:58,523 --> 00:44:59,724
MAY and the 13th of MAY. And

1404
00:44:59,724 --> 00:45:01,359
then we're following up again

1405
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:02,527
tomorrow. And in the interim,

1406
00:45:02,527 --> 00:45:04,462
you all have talked about it.

1407
00:45:04,462 --> 00:45:06,970
One thing I just want to tell

1408
00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:07,932
you that when we would bring

1409
00:45:07,932 --> 00:45:10,135
these topics up and Mark would

1410
00:45:10,135 --> 00:45:14,335
so calmly say, and that is why

1411
00:45:14,371 --> 00:45:15,474
I have this on here. But the

1412
00:45:15,474 --> 00:45:17,642
conversations in this room this

1413
00:45:17,642 --> 00:45:19,411
year that we've had at these

1414
00:45:19,411 --> 00:45:21,179
monthly meetings with with

1415
00:45:21,179 --> 00:45:23,682
chairs from other groups, we

1416
00:45:23,682 --> 00:45:25,217
have been very helpful and also

1417
00:45:25,217 --> 00:45:26,952
talking about things that we

1418
00:45:26,952 --> 00:45:28,987
feel maybe should be looked at

1419
00:45:28,987 --> 00:45:31,987
and that Mark has incorporated

1420
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:33,825
in the plan for next year. And

1421
00:45:33,825 --> 00:45:35,727
I know it's not finalized.

1422
00:45:35,727 --> 00:45:38,497
We'll know more on Thursday,

1423
00:45:38,497 --> 00:45:39,898
which is our next meeting on

1424
00:45:39,898 --> 00:45:44,980
JUNE 18th. And then we've set a

1425
00:45:44,102 --> 00:45:45,671
special meeting on the 16th of

1426
00:45:45,671 --> 00:45:47,390
JULY, anticipating an audit

1427
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:48,173
that will be coming in. We

1428
00:45:48,173 --> 00:45:50,375
don't typically meet in JULY,

1429
00:45:50,375 --> 00:45:52,144
as you know, but we will be. So

1430
00:45:52,144 --> 00:45:54,679
hopefully you will have all of

1431
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,481
that by the beginning of AUGUST.

1432
00:45:56,481 --> 00:45:58,249
I want to thank Doctor Hepburn

1433
00:45:58,249 --> 00:45:59,918
and for joining us and all of

1434
00:45:59,918 --> 00:46:01,520
the staff who work really hard

1435
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,622
to put together the information

1436
00:46:03,622 --> 00:46:05,858
we have added at every meeting,

1437
00:46:05,858 --> 00:46:08,858
a conversation on the general

1438
00:46:09,895 --> 00:46:11,964
fund balance. And there's much

1439
00:46:11,964 --> 00:46:13,632
more we've talked about as this

1440
00:46:13,632 --> 00:46:16,402
is our special meeting, as you

1441
00:46:16,402 --> 00:46:18,504
can see. But I want to thank

1442
00:46:18,504 --> 00:46:19,438
you again for the people you're

1443
00:46:19,438 --> 00:46:20,439
appointing to this committee.

1444
00:46:20,439 --> 00:46:21,674
This is an outstanding

1445
00:46:21,674 --> 00:46:23,509
committee with just such great

1446
00:46:23,509 --> 00:46:25,277
input from so many different

1447
00:46:25,277 --> 00:46:28,877
people. And so thank you for

1448
00:46:29,214 --> 00:46:30,382
that. And we will be meeting on

1449
00:46:30,382 --> 00:46:33,382
Thursday if anybody wants to

1450
00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:36,880
tune in. Thank you.

1451
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,523
>> Thanks.

1452
00:46:37,523 --> 00:46:39,923
>> Thank you. District Advisory

1453
00:46:44,363 --> 00:46:46,363
Council.

1454
00:46:46,832 --> 00:46:48,400
>> All right. Good morning,

1455
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,301
chair, board members,

1456
00:46:49,301 --> 00:46:51,701
superintendent and staff, and

1457
00:46:51,903 --> 00:46:53,973
fellow advisory chairs. My name

1458
00:46:53,973 --> 00:46:55,400
is Cynthia Dominique. I am a

1459
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,209
parent and chair of the

1460
00:46:57,209 --> 00:46:58,411
District Advisory Council. Our

1461
00:46:58,411 --> 00:47:00,546
last and final meeting of the

1462
00:47:00,546 --> 00:47:04,830
school year was on MAY 12th. I

1463
00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:06,252
want to thank MR. Strauss, MR.

1464
00:47:06,252 --> 00:47:07,652
Sullivan, MR. Hill, as well as

1465
00:47:07,652 --> 00:47:09,622
Doctor Holness for coming out

1466
00:47:09,622 --> 00:47:11,289
to that meeting. I'd also like

1467
00:47:11,289 --> 00:47:13,125
to thank our liaison, Shelly

1468
00:47:13,125 --> 00:47:15,525
Winter, our cabinet liaison,

1469
00:47:17,290 --> 00:47:18,464
Vida Hodge, our previous

1470
00:47:18,464 --> 00:47:19,899
student advisors, Landon and

1471
00:47:19,899 --> 00:47:21,733
Josiah, for their tireless,

1472
00:47:21,733 --> 00:47:23,168
tireless advocacy and

1473
00:47:23,168 --> 00:47:24,203
dedication to District Advisory

1474
00:47:24,203 --> 00:47:25,638
Council and the students of

1475
00:47:25,638 --> 00:47:28,380
Broward County Public Schools.

1476
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:30,677
And I'd be remiss if I didn't

1477
00:47:30,677 --> 00:47:33,546
think our parents and community

1478
00:47:33,546 --> 00:47:36,449
members who sit on our council

1479
00:47:36,449 --> 00:47:38,585
and show up every month to

1480
00:47:38,585 --> 00:47:40,985
discuss important issues and

1481
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,188
move our district forward. We

1482
00:47:42,188 --> 00:47:43,423
continue to have conversations

1483
00:47:43,423 --> 00:47:45,792
about facilities, and during

1484
00:47:45,792 --> 00:47:47,227
the summer, we hope that much

1485
00:47:47,227 --> 00:47:48,628
of the maintenance and

1486
00:47:48,628 --> 00:47:50,129
facilities work that needs to

1487
00:47:50,129 --> 00:47:51,930
be done across the district is

1488
00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:54,990
implemented so that come day

1489
00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:55,534
one, kids are ready to go into

1490
00:47:55,534 --> 00:47:58,380
buildings that are ready for

1491
00:47:58,380 --> 00:47:59,506
them. We've had conversations

1492
00:47:59,506 --> 00:48:01,906
about elevator servicing. I

1493
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,143
know we forwarded this issue to

1494
00:48:04,143 --> 00:48:07,143
Esq Advisory Council to ensure

1495
00:48:07,914 --> 00:48:10,317
that there is a plan to that,

1496
00:48:10,317 --> 00:48:11,751
to make our schools compliant

1497
00:48:11,751 --> 00:48:13,686
with Ada, and I know MR.

1498
00:48:13,686 --> 00:48:16,389
Dorsett is on it. Thank you for

1499
00:48:16,389 --> 00:48:17,857
always being responsive. We did

1500
00:48:17,857 --> 00:48:19,392
not discuss the upcoming

1501
00:48:19,392 --> 00:48:21,428
policies in detail, as we were

1502
00:48:21,428 --> 00:48:23,290
told that with this new neola

1503
00:48:23,290 --> 00:48:25,980
process, we would be made aware

1504
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:26,499
of the timelines and the

1505
00:48:26,499 --> 00:48:28,334
community would be fully

1506
00:48:28,334 --> 00:48:29,736
engaged on policies of this

1507
00:48:29,736 --> 00:48:31,538
magnitude that you all saw last

1508
00:48:31,538 --> 00:48:33,306
week, should comply with rural

1509
00:48:33,306 --> 00:48:35,706
development and maximize public

1510
00:48:35,876 --> 00:48:37,277
input. We had unanimous support

1511
00:48:37,277 --> 00:48:38,445
from the district advisory

1512
00:48:38,445 --> 00:48:40,279
Steering, which consists of

1513
00:48:40,279 --> 00:48:42,382
many of the people sitting here,

1514
00:48:42,382 --> 00:48:44,885
as well as many members of the

1515
00:48:44,885 --> 00:48:46,286
community, to ensure that any

1516
00:48:46,286 --> 00:48:48,388
changes to these policies would

1517
00:48:48,388 --> 00:48:49,889
preserve public speaking time

1518
00:48:49,889 --> 00:48:51,692
and committee reports to the

1519
00:48:51,692 --> 00:48:53,590
school board. We continue to

1520
00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:54,894
have conversations about

1521
00:48:54,894 --> 00:48:57,798
testing. The board did give the

1522
00:48:57,798 --> 00:48:59,199
academic team directions to

1523
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,670
decrease or eliminate, but

1524
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:02,435
really look at modifying the

1525
00:49:02,435 --> 00:49:04,605
amount of tests that are

1526
00:49:04,605 --> 00:49:07,605
provided to students. And we

1527
00:49:07,875 --> 00:49:08,942
hope that the conversation will

1528
00:49:08,942 --> 00:49:10,577
continue throughout the summer

1529
00:49:10,577 --> 00:49:12,179
and be ready ahead of the next

1530
00:49:12,179 --> 00:49:13,247
school year so that we can

1531
00:49:13,247 --> 00:49:14,682
identify those assessments that

1532
00:49:14,682 --> 00:49:15,782
are most statistically

1533
00:49:15,782 --> 00:49:17,217
significant and provide

1534
00:49:17,217 --> 00:49:19,353
actionable data that helps us

1535
00:49:19,353 --> 00:49:21,353
maintain accountability while

1536
00:49:22,222 --> 00:49:25,125
also preserving the ability for

1537
00:49:25,125 --> 00:49:26,660
teachers to modify instruction,

1538
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:28,328
timelines, and testing to best

1539
00:49:28,328 --> 00:49:30,230
meet the needs of students. We

1540
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:31,598
hope that dac will be continued

1541
00:49:31,598 --> 00:49:32,399
to be included in these

1542
00:49:32,399 --> 00:49:35,399
conversations and have a seat

1543
00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:36,704
at the table. We also discussed

1544
00:49:36,704 --> 00:49:37,771
student activities at our last

1545
00:49:37,771 --> 00:49:39,173
meeting, and it revealed

1546
00:49:39,173 --> 00:49:40,400
several opportunities.

1547
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,709
Overwhelmingly, members shared

1548
00:49:41,709 --> 00:49:42,775
a need to enhance communication

1549
00:49:42,775 --> 00:49:44,578
about clubs that are available

1550
00:49:44,578 --> 00:49:45,646
at schools. The disparity in

1551
00:49:45,646 --> 00:49:46,747
the amount of clubs and

1552
00:49:46,747 --> 00:49:48,949
activities that are available

1553
00:49:48,949 --> 00:49:50,684
at schools. As we know, this is

1554
00:49:50,684 --> 00:49:52,186
a key attraction for many

1555
00:49:52,186 --> 00:49:54,654
parents to stay in the school

1556
00:49:54,654 --> 00:49:57,491
that they're in. But also we

1557
00:49:57,491 --> 00:49:58,626
know that it's dependent on

1558
00:49:58,626 --> 00:50:01,626
sponsors. One of the things

1559
00:50:01,995 --> 00:50:04,431
that we learned was that people

1560
00:50:04,431 --> 00:50:07,234
who provide services on Broward

1561
00:50:07,234 --> 00:50:08,702
schools activities are not

1562
00:50:08,702 --> 00:50:11,171
required to go through the same

1563
00:50:11,171 --> 00:50:13,571
level of background screening

1564
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:16,277
as club sponsors or maybe

1565
00:50:16,277 --> 00:50:18,450
volunteers who are providing

1566
00:50:18,450 --> 00:50:19,146
that club. So that that is

1567
00:50:19,146 --> 00:50:21,546
certainly a recommendation we

1568
00:50:24,518 --> 00:50:26,887
gave to MR. Strauss to remedy,

1569
00:50:26,887 --> 00:50:28,489
and we do support the volunteer

1570
00:50:28,489 --> 00:50:30,290
in level one background check

1571
00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:32,192
of every single volunteer. And

1572
00:50:32,192 --> 00:50:33,560
we when we have trainings with

1573
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,494
our school advisory forum

1574
00:50:34,494 --> 00:50:36,564
chairs, that is something that

1575
00:50:36,564 --> 00:50:38,232
we request that they do along

1576
00:50:38,232 --> 00:50:39,600
with their ethics training. I'm

1577
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,200
not going to talk about edtech

1578
00:50:43,237 --> 00:50:44,639
and ai. Brooke said it all so

1579
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,674
eloquently, but what I would

1580
00:50:46,674 --> 00:50:49,344
ask is that dac has a seat on

1581
00:50:49,344 --> 00:50:52,613
that ai task force and that as

1582
00:50:52,613 --> 00:50:55,183
we prepare for next school year,

1583
00:50:55,183 --> 00:50:57,485
we really prioritize the opt

1584
00:50:57,485 --> 00:50:59,820
out of educational technology

1585
00:50:59,820 --> 00:51:04,200
for those who want it, as well

1586
00:51:04,158 --> 00:51:06,494
as providing for data privacy,

1587
00:51:06,494 --> 00:51:08,162
explicit consent, so that they

1588
00:51:08,162 --> 00:51:10,231
can be included on the back to

1589
00:51:10,231 --> 00:51:11,332
school forms. And while we

1590
00:51:11,332 --> 00:51:13,234
understand and chair, I'm going

1591
00:51:13,234 --> 00:51:16,336
to ask you for just maybe a

1592
00:51:16,336 --> 00:51:17,805
minute more, we understand that

1593
00:51:17,805 --> 00:51:19,140
education is our primary

1594
00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:20,140
mission, and we know that this

1595
00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:21,109
cannot happen unless students

1596
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:23,109
are physically, emotionally,

1597
00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:24,445
and mentally prepared to learn.

1598
00:51:24,445 --> 00:51:26,114
Students face stressors every

1599
00:51:26,114 --> 00:51:27,549
day, and they encounter unique

1600
00:51:27,549 --> 00:51:29,350
challenges associated with the

1601
00:51:29,350 --> 00:51:31,219
current state of our society

1602
00:51:31,219 --> 00:51:32,954
access to technology, social,

1603
00:51:32,954 --> 00:51:34,722
social, media, and at times

1604
00:51:34,722 --> 00:51:36,925
harmful, harmful content and

1605
00:51:36,925 --> 00:51:39,325
algorithms. The instant access

1606
00:51:39,394 --> 00:51:41,229
prevents them to be able to

1607
00:51:41,229 --> 00:51:42,997
isolate from those issues, and

1608
00:51:42,997 --> 00:51:45,132
a lack of safeguards or

1609
00:51:45,132 --> 00:51:47,101
inability to safeguard them

1610
00:51:47,101 --> 00:51:49,871
from potential dangers is also

1611
00:51:49,871 --> 00:51:52,741
a risk. I just learned that two

1612
00:51:52,741 --> 00:51:55,141
of our students completed

1613
00:51:56,678 --> 00:51:58,880
suicide in the last week. Since

1614
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,880
2003, suicide ideation and

1615
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:04,251
planning has increased. The cdc

1616
00:52:04,251 --> 00:52:06,651
estimates that 20% of youth

1617
00:52:07,222 --> 00:52:09,222
have contemplated suicide. 9%

1618
00:52:09,257 --> 00:52:12,160
of high schoolers have made a

1619
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,663
plan or an attempt. And in the

1620
00:52:14,663 --> 00:52:17,663
lgbtq community that jumps to

1621
00:52:19,367 --> 00:52:21,903
12%, one is too many. Every

1622
00:52:21,903 --> 00:52:23,400
parent, student, or adult that

1623
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,139
interacts with children should

1624
00:52:25,139 --> 00:52:27,709
know the warning signs. Be

1625
00:52:27,709 --> 00:52:28,844
courageous enough to ask

1626
00:52:28,844 --> 00:52:31,246
someone if they are having

1627
00:52:31,246 --> 00:52:33,815
thoughts of suicide. I promise

1628
00:52:33,815 --> 00:52:35,918
you, asking does not lead to

1629
00:52:35,918 --> 00:52:38,918
suicide, but it possibly saves

1630
00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:40,989
a life. We've previously talked

1631
00:52:40,989 --> 00:52:42,424
about the surveys administered

1632
00:52:42,424 --> 00:52:45,994
in the schools, one of which is

1633
00:52:45,994 --> 00:52:48,163
the Youth Risk Behavior Survey.

1634
00:52:48,163 --> 00:52:51,763
I'm asking the district that we

1635
00:52:52,868 --> 00:52:54,669
use that data to create really

1636
00:52:54,669 --> 00:52:56,669
clear strategies and

1637
00:52:56,805 --> 00:52:59,205
implementation plans that focus

1638
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,800
on prevention, early

1639
00:53:04,379 --> 00:53:05,447
intervention, and provide our

1640
00:53:05,447 --> 00:53:07,249
community with the resources

1641
00:53:07,249 --> 00:53:09,510
that already exist in Broward

1642
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:10,451
County public schools, as well

1643
00:53:10,451 --> 00:53:12,354
as the partnerships that we

1644
00:53:12,354 --> 00:53:13,923
have in the community. And I

1645
00:53:13,923 --> 00:53:16,323
hope that everyone remembers

1646
00:53:16,625 --> 00:53:18,270
the number 988. If you are

1647
00:53:18,270 --> 00:53:19,628
having thoughts of hurting

1648
00:53:19,628 --> 00:53:21,697
yourself or you just need to

1649
00:53:21,697 --> 00:53:22,598
talk to someone, remember nine,

1650
00:53:22,598 --> 00:53:24,433
eight, eight, there is someone

1651
00:53:24,433 --> 00:53:27,135
on that other line that is able

1652
00:53:27,135 --> 00:53:28,504
to speak to you and help. As we

1653
00:53:28,504 --> 00:53:29,939
look forward to district

1654
00:53:29,939 --> 00:53:31,600
advisory next year, we will be

1655
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,141
requesting meetings with all

1656
00:53:32,141 --> 00:53:33,542
board members and the

1657
00:53:33,542 --> 00:53:35,542
superintendent to identify

1658
00:53:35,611 --> 00:53:36,812
priorities that we would like,

1659
00:53:36,812 --> 00:53:37,913
that you would like our

1660
00:53:37,913 --> 00:53:39,315
feedback on, and to better

1661
00:53:39,315 --> 00:53:41,117
understand and collaborate on

1662
00:53:41,117 --> 00:53:42,952
solutions to community concerns,

1663
00:53:42,952 --> 00:53:44,353
it is imperative that the

1664
00:53:44,353 --> 00:53:45,588
message that is being

1665
00:53:45,588 --> 00:53:47,223
communicated is heard beyond

1666
00:53:47,223 --> 00:53:49,358
the message, how the message is

1667
00:53:49,358 --> 00:53:51,193
delivered so that we prioritize

1668
00:53:51,193 --> 00:53:52,628
student well-being and academic

1669
00:53:52,628 --> 00:53:54,630
achievement. We look forward to

1670
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:55,865
working with the new student

1671
00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:57,865
advisors, engaging and

1672
00:53:58,834 --> 00:54:00,436
empowering more parents. As we

1673
00:54:00,436 --> 00:54:02,337
know that this is key to

1674
00:54:02,337 --> 00:54:05,337
student success, we also look

1675
00:54:05,941 --> 00:54:08,544
forward to enhancing our parent

1676
00:54:08,544 --> 00:54:10,312
and community community

1677
00:54:10,312 --> 00:54:11,414
engagement with the legislative

1678
00:54:11,414 --> 00:54:13,549
process, so that we could

1679
00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:16,451
advocate on behalf of the bcc

1680
00:54:16,451 --> 00:54:18,451
legislative platform and

1681
00:54:18,588 --> 00:54:19,288
protect public education. Those

1682
00:54:19,288 --> 00:54:20,723
conversations have already

1683
00:54:20,723 --> 00:54:23,123
started with the communications

1684
00:54:23,626 --> 00:54:24,694
team, and we look forward to

1685
00:54:24,694 --> 00:54:25,661
continuing them. Our first

1686
00:54:25,661 --> 00:54:28,300
meeting of the school year will

1687
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:29,365
be on AUGUST 12th at 615, and

1688
00:54:29,365 --> 00:54:30,732
we'll be having a leadership

1689
00:54:30,732 --> 00:54:33,336
and advocacy training for our

1690
00:54:33,336 --> 00:54:34,437
School advisory Forum chairs on

1691
00:54:34,437 --> 00:54:36,605
AUGUST 30th. Thank you, board

1692
00:54:36,605 --> 00:54:37,273
for allowing us to have these

1693
00:54:37,273 --> 00:54:39,273
conversations with you

1694
00:54:39,809 --> 00:54:41,809
throughout this year.

1695
00:54:42,678 --> 00:54:44,678
>> North area.

1696
00:54:44,881 --> 00:54:47,316
>> Yeah, I'm I'm reporting on

1697
00:54:47,316 --> 00:54:49,152
behalf of of.

1698
00:54:49,152 --> 00:54:51,552
>> Nicole, the outgoing chair,

1699
00:54:52,540 --> 00:54:53,255
and Mario, the incoming chair.

1700
00:54:53,255 --> 00:54:56,855
I'm just going to go quickly

1701
00:54:57,590 --> 00:55:00,590
over some of the. Minutes.

1702
00:55:01,731 --> 00:55:04,731
Sorry. So North area last

1703
00:55:06,102 --> 00:55:09,500
meeting made the 21st. Lisa

1704
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:10,730
Maxwell, PRESIDENT Of Broward

1705
00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:11,474
Principals and Assistant

1706
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:12,942
Principals Association,

1707
00:55:12,942 --> 00:55:14,942
explained process previously

1708
00:55:15,111 --> 00:55:16,546
used to fund schools and how it

1709
00:55:16,546 --> 00:55:17,614
involved principals looking at

1710
00:55:17,614 --> 00:55:18,782
enrollment with the

1711
00:55:18,782 --> 00:55:20,116
demographics Department and

1712
00:55:20,116 --> 00:55:22,485
then being funded based on

1713
00:55:22,485 --> 00:55:23,987
their fte and seeing funds in

1714
00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:25,889
their accounts, and being able

1715
00:55:25,889 --> 00:55:27,624
to hire and fund staff

1716
00:55:27,624 --> 00:55:29,859
accordingly. There's been a lot

1717
00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:31,661
of concern out at Sacs and

1718
00:55:31,661 --> 00:55:33,129
staffs, as parents have seen

1719
00:55:33,129 --> 00:55:35,264
principals struggling to hire

1720
00:55:35,264 --> 00:55:37,834
staff for next year based on

1721
00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:39,302
figures that appear to be under

1722
00:55:39,302 --> 00:55:40,871
projections in some cases. Of

1723
00:55:40,871 --> 00:55:42,105
the number of students that are

1724
00:55:42,105 --> 00:55:44,941
going to be coming into schools,

1725
00:55:44,941 --> 00:55:46,409
and also the removal of their

1726
00:55:46,409 --> 00:55:48,440
accelerated funding. So

1727
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,646
Cambridge and cte funding,

1728
00:55:49,646 --> 00:55:51,414
which has hobbled them from

1729
00:55:51,414 --> 00:55:53,616
being able to hire staff.

1730
00:55:53,616 --> 00:55:55,385
Therefore, somewhere along the

1731
00:55:55,385 --> 00:55:56,852
line they are having to drop

1732
00:55:56,852 --> 00:55:59,723
staff. I can tell you certainly

1733
00:55:59,723 --> 00:56:02,626
at my school, which is in the

1734
00:56:02,626 --> 00:56:04,795
north, there has been a

1735
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:07,795
weakening of support for the

1736
00:56:08,398 --> 00:56:11,234
Esq students in the srv classes

1737
00:56:11,234 --> 00:56:13,690
because of the funding stretch,

1738
00:56:13,690 --> 00:56:14,871
and they cannot be the most

1739
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:15,938
being the most vulnerable

1740
00:56:15,938 --> 00:56:18,374
students in the district. They

1741
00:56:18,374 --> 00:56:20,244
cannot be the ones who have

1742
00:56:20,244 --> 00:56:23,213
those around them dropped from

1743
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:25,115
the staffing next year. There

1744
00:56:25,115 --> 00:56:26,249
was a lot of concern about how

1745
00:56:26,249 --> 00:56:27,217
the district is no longer

1746
00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:28,886
showing schools the money

1747
00:56:28,886 --> 00:56:30,653
available based on fte, and

1748
00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:32,322
instead of showing units and

1749
00:56:32,322 --> 00:56:34,657
stating that a set number of

1750
00:56:34,657 --> 00:56:35,759
units equals staffing,

1751
00:56:35,759 --> 00:56:37,494
enrollment numbers are coming

1752
00:56:37,494 --> 00:56:38,595
from an alternate source than

1753
00:56:38,595 --> 00:56:39,997
demographics, and there's no

1754
00:56:39,997 --> 00:56:41,465
confirmation of where the

1755
00:56:41,465 --> 00:56:43,600
enrollment numbers are coming

1756
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,102
from or how they were derived.

1757
00:56:45,102 --> 00:56:46,136
Principals have reported

1758
00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:48,136
discrepancies, with some

1759
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,772
schools not expecting a drop in

1760
00:56:49,772 --> 00:56:51,942
enrollment being projected for

1761
00:56:51,942 --> 00:56:54,342
unexplained drops, resulting in

1762
00:56:54,511 --> 00:56:55,613
principals having to cut staff.

1763
00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:56,780
There was also a lot of

1764
00:56:56,780 --> 00:56:58,682
discussion about alternate ways

1765
00:56:58,682 --> 00:57:00,217
we can save money as a district

1766
00:57:00,217 --> 00:57:03,217
in order to better directly

1767
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:05,820
fund schools. One suggestion

1768
00:57:05,956 --> 00:57:07,758
that North felt warranted

1769
00:57:07,758 --> 00:57:10,158
further research is the

1770
00:57:10,695 --> 00:57:12,563
academics department that MISS

1771
00:57:12,563 --> 00:57:14,331
Maxwell said was has an $80

1772
00:57:14,331 --> 00:57:16,731
million annual budget, with 25

1773
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,202
million allocated for materials.

1774
00:57:18,202 --> 00:57:19,870
Members had questions about

1775
00:57:19,870 --> 00:57:22,270
formulas for budgeting schools,

1776
00:57:24,642 --> 00:57:28,713
and we passed a motion at North

1777
00:57:28,713 --> 00:57:31,515
which went like this. If I can

1778
00:57:31,515 --> 00:57:35,115
just find it. My apologies. I'm

1779
00:57:35,819 --> 00:57:39,419
new to this document. Okay. The

1780
00:57:41,626 --> 00:57:43,600
motion was to. We move that the

1781
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,228
district. We recommend that the

1782
00:57:44,228 --> 00:57:46,628
district allow principals to

1783
00:57:46,664 --> 00:57:48,498
make instructional staffing

1784
00:57:48,498 --> 00:57:49,700
allocations based on funds

1785
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:51,702
generated by their schools

1786
00:57:51,702 --> 00:57:54,572
through the Cambridge and cte

1787
00:57:54,572 --> 00:57:55,939
programs, moved, seconded and

1788
00:57:55,939 --> 00:57:57,508
passed with just one opposing

1789
00:57:57,508 --> 00:57:59,677
vote from a gentleman who said

1790
00:57:59,677 --> 00:58:01,445
he didn't quite understand the

1791
00:58:01,445 --> 00:58:03,481
ins and outs of it. But the ins

1792
00:58:03,481 --> 00:58:05,416
and outs of it are. If you have

1793
00:58:05,416 --> 00:58:06,550
a school that had 400 zero zero

1794
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:08,286
$0 in accelerated funding that

1795
00:58:08,286 --> 00:58:10,421
its kids and its staff had

1796
00:58:10,421 --> 00:58:12,557
earned in order to help swell

1797
00:58:12,557 --> 00:58:15,426
services and supports in that

1798
00:58:15,426 --> 00:58:17,628
school and staffing and to

1799
00:58:17,628 --> 00:58:19,263
strengthen programs. And then

1800
00:58:19,263 --> 00:58:22,863
that money is taken away and

1801
00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:25,236
you can no longer code your

1802
00:58:25,236 --> 00:58:26,604
staffing salaries accordingly.

1803
00:58:26,604 --> 00:58:28,807
And there just isn't money

1804
00:58:28,807 --> 00:58:30,641
there. Your school is going to

1805
00:58:30,641 --> 00:58:32,430
shrink and not only shrink in

1806
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:33,478
its in terms of what it can

1807
00:58:33,478 --> 00:58:34,913
offer the community, but shrink

1808
00:58:34,913 --> 00:58:37,815
in terms of the community

1809
00:58:37,815 --> 00:58:39,584
coming to that school. So the

1810
00:58:39,584 --> 00:58:41,386
motion was made in the hope

1811
00:58:41,386 --> 00:58:43,880
that although Cambridge and cte

1812
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,656
money, I think, is not going to

1813
00:58:44,656 --> 00:58:46,900
be taken away next year, the

1814
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,226
money that has been taken this

1815
00:58:48,226 --> 00:58:50,610
year is affecting schools

1816
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,630
ability to staff and then

1817
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:54,332
finally North as as with all

1818
00:58:54,332 --> 00:58:56,134
the other areas, has had

1819
00:58:56,134 --> 00:58:57,702
feedback on this issue of of

1820
00:58:57,702 --> 00:59:00,138
your wishes regarding or some

1821
00:59:00,138 --> 00:59:02,239
of your wishes regarding public

1822
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:04,109
engagement and, and the

1823
00:59:04,109 --> 00:59:06,978
decision or the decision you're

1824
00:59:06,978 --> 00:59:09,378
moving towards to eliminate

1825
00:59:09,447 --> 00:59:10,214
public engagement, almost about

1826
00:59:10,214 --> 00:59:12,317
three minutes in the course of

1827
00:59:12,317 --> 00:59:14,886
an entire school board agenda

1828
00:59:14,886 --> 00:59:17,540
meeting, placing 31 policies in

1829
00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:20,654
one agenda item for review does

1830
00:59:21,326 --> 00:59:23,726
not constitute rulemaking with

1831
00:59:25,330 --> 00:59:27,132
integrity. The Neola platform.

1832
00:59:27,132 --> 00:59:28,499
Maybe you folks had a nice

1833
00:59:28,499 --> 00:59:29,668
demonstration of of how funky

1834
00:59:29,668 --> 00:59:31,503
and nice that's going to look,

1835
00:59:31,503 --> 00:59:33,271
but nobody out here did. And

1836
00:59:33,271 --> 00:59:36,508
you MAY not be aware that all

1837
00:59:36,508 --> 00:59:37,709
the areas and dac and other

1838
00:59:37,709 --> 00:59:40,709
advisories had all been working

1839
00:59:40,812 --> 00:59:42,581
really hard at your request on

1840
00:59:42,581 --> 00:59:43,681
reviewing policy. 1020 there

1841
00:59:43,681 --> 00:59:45,517
have been no courtesy of

1842
00:59:45,517 --> 00:59:47,152
reference to us when this Neola

1843
00:59:47,152 --> 00:59:49,540
thing came along. Everybody's

1844
00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:50,588
very concerned about processes

1845
00:59:50,588 --> 00:59:54,159
and what you're doing to public

1846
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:55,594
engagement. Thank you.

1847
00:59:55,594 --> 00:59:56,628
>> Okay. Thank you to our

1848
00:59:56,628 --> 00:59:58,864
committees. I'll go to board

1849
00:59:58,864 --> 01:00:00,966
member discussion. And just as

1850
01:00:00,966 --> 01:00:02,134
a reminder, it is up to the

1851
01:00:02,134 --> 01:00:04,360
board member who has the floor

1852
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,739
to call on the various chairs

1853
01:00:06,739 --> 01:00:08,173
that they'd like to hear from

1854
01:00:08,173 --> 01:00:09,241
before I go to board members.

1855
01:00:09,241 --> 01:00:11,343
Attorney Dupree Bruno, did you

1856
01:00:11,343 --> 01:00:13,879
want to respond to anything?

1857
01:00:13,879 --> 01:00:16,810
>> Yes, just to make sure

1858
01:00:16,810 --> 01:00:17,549
there's a there's some response

1859
01:00:17,549 --> 01:00:18,616
to some of the concerns that

1860
01:00:18,616 --> 01:00:20,152
have been raised with regards

1861
01:00:20,152 --> 01:00:22,254
to the policies in Neola and

1862
01:00:22,254 --> 01:00:23,454
the process, as well as to make

1863
01:00:23,454 --> 01:00:25,456
sure that we have some things

1864
01:00:25,456 --> 01:00:27,260
on the record. The first thing

1865
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:30,129
that I think is very important

1866
01:00:30,129 --> 01:00:32,529
to understand the policy

1867
01:00:32,965 --> 01:00:35,533
conversion is a major project.

1868
01:00:35,533 --> 01:00:38,533
It is utilizing the templates

1869
01:00:38,736 --> 01:00:41,307
that are legally vetted through

1870
01:00:41,307 --> 01:00:42,975
Neola, and then incorporating

1871
01:00:42,975 --> 01:00:44,877
some of the things that we want

1872
01:00:44,877 --> 01:00:47,212
to incorporate that are Broward

1873
01:00:47,212 --> 01:00:49,215
specific. First and foremost,

1874
01:00:49,215 --> 01:00:52,215
the direction was to review

1875
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,686
policy 1020. Policy 1020 has

1876
01:00:54,686 --> 01:00:57,560
multiple different subjects in

1877
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,524
that policy. When you are doing

1878
01:00:58,524 --> 01:01:01,524
a rule, you're really only

1879
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,229
supposed to have one topic per

1880
01:01:03,229 --> 01:01:04,797
policy, unless the statute has

1881
01:01:04,797 --> 01:01:06,465
a bunch of different things and

1882
01:01:06,465 --> 01:01:07,934
there are statutes that do that.

1883
01:01:07,934 --> 01:01:09,402
So that's why we have

1884
01:01:09,402 --> 01:01:10,769
individual policies for an

1885
01:01:10,769 --> 01:01:12,972
address or a seal and those

1886
01:01:12,972 --> 01:01:15,107
types of different things. The

1887
01:01:15,107 --> 01:01:17,609
second thing is the board is

1888
01:01:17,609 --> 01:01:19,812
going to be reviewing policy

1889
01:01:19,812 --> 01:01:22,682
1070. That's going to come in

1890
01:01:22,682 --> 01:01:24,484
AUGUST or SEPTEMBER. Policy

1891
01:01:24,484 --> 01:01:26,252
1070 is the one that actually

1892
01:01:26,252 --> 01:01:28,252
discusses board advisory

1893
01:01:28,755 --> 01:01:30,189
committees. So the reporting

1894
01:01:30,189 --> 01:01:31,390
from the board advisory

1895
01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:33,793
committees will be addressed in

1896
01:01:33,793 --> 01:01:35,628
that policy, because that's the

1897
01:01:35,628 --> 01:01:38,280
policy that addresses board

1898
01:01:38,164 --> 01:01:39,365
advisory committees. The other

1899
01:01:39,365 --> 01:01:41,765
thing that's really important

1900
01:01:42,501 --> 01:01:43,636
to understand the school

1901
01:01:43,636 --> 01:01:45,505
district, and I want to make

1902
01:01:45,505 --> 01:01:46,806
sure this is very clear. The

1903
01:01:46,806 --> 01:01:48,207
school board, the school

1904
01:01:48,207 --> 01:01:49,609
district, followed the

1905
01:01:49,609 --> 01:01:51,444
appropriate laws with regards

1906
01:01:51,444 --> 01:01:54,680
to notice and what is required

1907
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,815
for rulemaking. There is no

1908
01:01:55,815 --> 01:01:57,951
violation in terms of the

1909
01:01:57,951 --> 01:01:59,319
rulemaking process that was

1910
01:01:59,319 --> 01:02:01,187
utilized by the school district.

1911
01:02:01,187 --> 01:02:03,210
It is controlled by the

1912
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:05,210
Administrative Procedures Act,

1913
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,960
Florida Statute 120.54. And we

1914
01:02:09,950 --> 01:02:11,264
followed that process with the

1915
01:02:11,264 --> 01:02:13,664
legal notices that were

1916
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,369
provided. We hear from the

1917
01:02:16,369 --> 01:02:17,770
constituents when there is a

1918
01:02:17,770 --> 01:02:19,539
concern that is raised, and we

1919
01:02:19,539 --> 01:02:22,750
feel that it is something that

1920
01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:25,675
we can address, we will address

1921
01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:27,814
it. We do not have to put rule

1922
01:02:27,814 --> 01:02:29,249
development on the website

1923
01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:31,840
because it's already put on the

1924
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,886
website with the legal notice,

1925
01:02:32,886 --> 01:02:34,540
but a constituent raised it, so

1926
01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:36,456
we added it and we will

1927
01:02:36,456 --> 01:02:38,225
continue to add it. I also want

1928
01:02:38,225 --> 01:02:40,760
to make it very clear that we

1929
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,929
are not eliminating public

1930
01:02:42,929 --> 01:02:44,765
comment. There is no

1931
01:02:44,765 --> 01:02:46,199
elimination of public comment.

1932
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:47,734
The formatting of public

1933
01:02:47,734 --> 01:02:50,170
comment is going to be changed

1934
01:02:50,170 --> 01:02:51,238
to be more in line with best

1935
01:02:51,238 --> 01:02:52,672
practices, not only in the

1936
01:02:52,672 --> 01:02:54,808
state of Florida, but across

1937
01:02:54,808 --> 01:02:57,344
the country, in terms of how

1938
01:02:57,344 --> 01:02:58,412
public comment is given, it is

1939
01:02:58,412 --> 01:03:00,179
extremely important that the

1940
01:03:00,179 --> 01:03:02,415
public understands this is a

1941
01:03:02,415 --> 01:03:05,520
governing body, and they have

1942
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,687
work to do. They are supposed

1943
01:03:06,687 --> 01:03:08,488
to listen to your comments, and

1944
01:03:08,488 --> 01:03:10,390
I can assure you that they do

1945
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:12,159
listen to your comments. How

1946
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:13,493
that is done is what the

1947
01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:14,962
question is and what they're

1948
01:03:14,962 --> 01:03:17,497
resolving, so that they can

1949
01:03:17,497 --> 01:03:20,330
continue to do their work as a

1950
01:03:20,330 --> 01:03:21,835
governing body. The other thing

1951
01:03:21,835 --> 01:03:23,604
i want to make sure that's very

1952
01:03:23,604 --> 01:03:25,772
clear is you are actually

1953
01:03:25,772 --> 01:03:27,240
getting an hour and a half of

1954
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,443
public comment based on the

1955
01:03:29,443 --> 01:03:31,211
board's discussion. You're

1956
01:03:31,211 --> 01:03:33,379
getting public comment in the a

1957
01:03:33,379 --> 01:03:34,815
m meetings,s,ououe getting

1958
01:03:34,815 --> 01:03:36,983
blicic commeme inn t p pm

1959
01:03:36,983 --> 01:03:39,553
meetinings, a as youave now,nd

1960
01:03:39,553 --> 01:03:41,422
then you're given another 60

1961
01:03:41,422 --> 01:03:43,490
minutes on agenda items. That

1962
01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:47,900
is what is in the proposed

1963
01:03:48,562 --> 01:03:50,632
policy. 0169.1 in addition, you

1964
01:03:50,632 --> 01:03:52,833
have the right to send comments

1965
01:03:52,833 --> 01:03:53,834
via communication, written

1966
01:03:53,834 --> 01:03:55,703
communication. That's the same

1967
01:03:55,703 --> 01:03:58,103
thing. That's in 1020. Feel

1968
01:03:58,205 --> 01:03:59,206
free to send emails and written

1969
01:03:59,206 --> 01:04:00,374
communication to the board

1970
01:04:00,374 --> 01:04:02,176
because they are read and

1971
01:04:02,176 --> 01:04:03,610
anything that deals with

1972
01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:06,480
policies I'm aware of and I

1973
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,915
read them. So you are not

1974
01:04:07,915 --> 01:04:10,840
losing public comment. It's

1975
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,886
just being restructured. On how

1976
01:04:11,886 --> 01:04:14,755
public comment is provided to

1977
01:04:14,755 --> 01:04:16,590
the board. You are also able to

1978
01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:18,858
comment on workshops and

1979
01:04:18,858 --> 01:04:20,528
special meetings as you have

1980
01:04:20,528 --> 01:04:23,330
this the same rules that you

1981
01:04:23,330 --> 01:04:24,865
had in 1020, except it's all at

1982
01:04:24,865 --> 01:04:26,634
the beginning of the meeting.

1983
01:04:26,634 --> 01:04:29,469
So the board can then do their

1984
01:04:29,469 --> 01:04:31,672
work as a governing body. The

1985
01:04:31,672 --> 01:04:34,141
other thing that I wanted to

1986
01:04:34,141 --> 01:04:37,741
make sure that was very clear

1987
01:04:37,778 --> 01:04:40,178
is during the rulemaking

1988
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:43,749
process. 120.54 believe it or

1989
01:04:43,851 --> 01:04:46,454
not, does not require a

1990
01:04:46,454 --> 01:04:48,854
rulemaking workshop unless it

1991
01:04:50,358 --> 01:04:52,894
is requested. What most boards

1992
01:04:52,894 --> 01:04:54,395
do to be preemptive and

1993
01:04:54,395 --> 01:04:56,831
proactive. They have a rule

1994
01:04:56,831 --> 01:04:58,999
making workshop. And this board

1995
01:04:58,999 --> 01:05:02,236
did that and had a rulemaking

1996
01:05:02,236 --> 01:05:05,836
workshop. In addition, it is up

1997
01:05:06,207 --> 01:05:07,608
to the to the the the Chair If

1998
01:05:07,608 --> 01:05:09,477
there's going to be any

1999
01:05:09,477 --> 01:05:10,912
additional workshops. And in

2000
01:05:10,912 --> 01:05:12,780
this case, because of the fact

2001
01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:14,915
that you are able to send in

2002
01:05:14,915 --> 01:05:17,315
written communication, you are

2003
01:05:17,385 --> 01:05:18,886
able to provide comment at the

2004
01:05:18,886 --> 01:05:20,255
rulemaking workshop, and you

2005
01:05:20,255 --> 01:05:22,220
will be able to provide

2006
01:05:22,220 --> 01:05:24,159
comments during the public

2007
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:26,761
hearing. There is no need for

2008
01:05:26,761 --> 01:05:28,396
an additional workshop. The

2009
01:05:28,396 --> 01:05:30,665
other thing that I want to make

2010
01:05:30,665 --> 01:05:33,665
sure that it's very clear,

2011
01:05:34,636 --> 01:05:37,906
because of how Neola is set up,

2012
01:05:37,906 --> 01:05:39,674
you're going to have multiple

2013
01:05:39,674 --> 01:05:41,141
batches of policies coming

2014
01:05:41,141 --> 01:05:43,244
forward. It's not going to be

2015
01:05:43,244 --> 01:05:45,790
one policy. It's not going to

2016
01:05:45,790 --> 01:05:47,982
be ten policies. It's going to

2017
01:05:47,982 --> 01:05:49,383
be large batches of policies.

2018
01:05:49,383 --> 01:05:50,618
That's just the way the

2019
01:05:50,618 --> 01:05:53,180
conversion operates and that's

2020
01:05:53,722 --> 01:05:55,189
how it works. When we go to

2021
01:05:55,189 --> 01:05:56,992
public hearing, what I have

2022
01:05:56,992 --> 01:05:58,760
done is to make sure that the

2023
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,929
public hearing is set up by

2024
01:06:00,929 --> 01:06:03,329
chapter, because Neola has

2025
01:06:04,132 --> 01:06:05,800
multiple chapters, 1000 is for

2026
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,800
administration, 2000 students,

2027
01:06:08,136 --> 01:06:09,604
and so on and so forth. The

2028
01:06:09,604 --> 01:06:11,390
zero zeros that you've been

2029
01:06:11,390 --> 01:06:13,439
seeing, those are considered

2030
01:06:13,541 --> 01:06:15,760
the bylaws or the board's

2031
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,444
policies. That's why they're

2032
01:06:16,444 --> 01:06:18,213
there group like that, because

2033
01:06:18,213 --> 01:06:19,648
they actually belong in one

2034
01:06:19,648 --> 01:06:21,383
chapter. And when you see the

2035
01:06:21,383 --> 01:06:24,319
public hearing, you'll see that

2036
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:25,787
as well. So I'm available to

2037
01:06:25,787 --> 01:06:27,222
answer any questions that

2038
01:06:27,222 --> 01:06:28,257
anybody has. Some people have

2039
01:06:28,257 --> 01:06:30,920
reached out and asked me

2040
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,993
questions. I'm very happy to

2041
01:06:31,993 --> 01:06:34,960
answer those questions. But the

2042
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,897
board has given a directive. We

2043
01:06:35,897 --> 01:06:38,399
have so many hours that we have

2044
01:06:38,399 --> 01:06:40,168
paid for for Neola assistance,

2045
01:06:40,168 --> 01:06:41,603
and we have a one year timeline

2046
01:06:41,603 --> 01:06:43,872
to do these conversions of

2047
01:06:43,872 --> 01:06:46,872
these policies. So we're going

2048
01:06:47,809 --> 01:06:50,120
to do it as applicable to the

2049
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,379
law and compliance with law and

2050
01:06:51,379 --> 01:06:54,950
but with the process so that we

2051
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:58,520
can conclude this policy in by

2052
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,620
JUNE or MAY of 2027. Thank you,

2053
01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:01,620
MADAM Chair.

2054
01:07:03,926 --> 01:07:06,326
>> Thank you, MISS Thompson.

2055
01:07:07,229 --> 01:07:08,397
>> Any question about that?

2056
01:07:08,397 --> 01:07:11,397
>> Yeah, I can MISS MISS

2057
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,200
Thompson has.

2058
01:07:15,103 --> 01:07:17,639
>> Do you online. No, no.

2059
01:07:17,639 --> 01:07:19,275
>> Okay. I just I was unable to

2060
01:07:19,275 --> 01:07:21,177
come to the workshop last week

2061
01:07:21,177 --> 01:07:22,378
and in fact, I read the policy

2062
01:07:22,378 --> 01:07:24,546
and I don't know how many

2063
01:07:24,546 --> 01:07:28,746
people had a chance to read the

2064
01:07:29,118 --> 01:07:30,919
new policy for ten, 20. So I

2065
01:07:30,919 --> 01:07:33,122
think part of your confusion as

2066
01:07:33,122 --> 01:07:34,557
you go forward, just as a

2067
01:07:34,557 --> 01:07:36,158
something that might be helpful,

2068
01:07:36,158 --> 01:07:38,160
is when you're labeling that

2069
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,227
you might put formerly known as

2070
01:07:39,227 --> 01:07:41,290
because I think it's very

2071
01:07:41,290 --> 01:07:42,864
confusing to people, but I do

2072
01:07:42,864 --> 01:07:44,266
want to make the comment as

2073
01:07:44,266 --> 01:07:45,769
you're planning what you're

2074
01:07:45,769 --> 01:07:46,869
doing with these policies. And

2075
01:07:46,869 --> 01:07:48,204
there are others besides that.

2076
01:07:48,204 --> 01:07:50,373
Like, I'm very curious as to

2077
01:07:50,373 --> 01:07:52,174
what current policy 4.9 is

2078
01:07:52,174 --> 01:07:53,709
going to be renumbered. Having

2079
01:07:53,709 --> 01:07:56,879
spent many hours on that over

2080
01:07:56,879 --> 01:07:58,614
the years. But the point I

2081
01:07:58,614 --> 01:08:02,214
wanted to make was that as

2082
01:08:03,685 --> 01:08:03,774
you're doing these policies, I

2083
01:08:03,774 --> 01:08:05,454
think you have to not only

2084
01:08:05,454 --> 01:08:06,889
consider what potentially is in

2085
01:08:06,889 --> 01:08:09,525
your state statute, but what

2086
01:08:09,525 --> 01:08:11,260
the traditions of this district

2087
01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:13,429
and the district and what this

2088
01:08:13,429 --> 01:08:16,332
district has come to, to be.

2089
01:08:16,332 --> 01:08:17,899
And so you have nearly 200,000

2090
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:20,299
students in traditional schools.

2091
01:08:20,602 --> 01:08:23,506
Is that correct, Doctor Hepburn?

2092
01:08:23,506 --> 01:08:26,506
Probably, maybe. But let's just

2093
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:27,877
say it is okay, 200 000

2094
01:08:27,877 --> 01:08:28,945
students. I don't know how many

2095
01:08:28,945 --> 01:08:30,713
parents that is, but okay,

2096
01:08:30,713 --> 01:08:32,713
let's say that's 100,000

2097
01:08:32,882 --> 01:08:35,180
parents. As you're planning how

2098
01:08:35,180 --> 01:08:37,186
you want to hear from those

2099
01:08:37,186 --> 01:08:38,254
parents, I would tell you, it's

2100
01:08:38,254 --> 01:08:40,220
great you're giving us 60

2101
01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:42,422
minutes, I don't think 60

2102
01:08:43,226 --> 01:08:45,280
minutes for 100,000 people is

2103
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:46,429
good. And my major concern for

2104
01:08:46,429 --> 01:08:48,598
all of you as you're redoing

2105
01:08:48,598 --> 01:08:51,167
these policies, as we cannot

2106
01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:52,936
afford to lose any more people.

2107
01:08:52,936 --> 01:08:54,370
And if people feel they are not

2108
01:08:54,370 --> 01:08:56,906
heard, they will vote with

2109
01:08:56,906 --> 01:08:59,800
their feet. We know that. So I

2110
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,210
think that this is a larger

2111
01:09:01,210 --> 01:09:02,879
conversation. I I'm glad you're

2112
01:09:02,879 --> 01:09:05,115
getting everything so organized,

2113
01:09:05,115 --> 01:09:06,949
but in doing that, I think

2114
01:09:06,949 --> 01:09:08,418
there has to be another way to

2115
01:09:08,418 --> 01:09:10,818
work with these different

2116
01:09:11,654 --> 01:09:13,890
committees to get some input

2117
01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:15,959
before you come to the point

2118
01:09:15,959 --> 01:09:17,727
where you did last week. So.

2119
01:09:17,727 --> 01:09:21,327
And but thank you for your

2120
01:09:21,364 --> 01:09:22,320
explanation.

2121
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,320
>> Good.

2122
01:09:27,103 --> 01:09:30,703
>> Okay. Good morning. So I, of

2123
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:33,609
course. I, I hear the concerns

2124
01:09:33,609 --> 01:09:35,412
about public comment. And I'm

2125
01:09:35,412 --> 01:09:36,546
only going to mention this very

2126
01:09:36,546 --> 01:09:37,680
briefly because I think there's

2127
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,582
other things that people

2128
01:09:39,582 --> 01:09:41,518
brought up that I would like to

2129
01:09:41,518 --> 01:09:43,353
spend my time on. I think one

2130
01:09:43,353 --> 01:09:45,856
of the things that DR. Holness

2131
01:09:45,856 --> 01:09:48,558
item last week about community

2132
01:09:48,558 --> 01:09:50,159
surveys and in that discussion,

2133
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:52,162
there are multiple ways to get

2134
01:09:52,162 --> 01:09:54,970
public comment. And for example,

2135
01:09:54,970 --> 01:09:55,599
in my district, district two,

2136
01:09:55,599 --> 01:09:59,169
which is about an hour from

2137
01:09:59,169 --> 01:10:00,637
this building, very rarely will

2138
01:10:00,637 --> 01:10:02,710
anybody come to a meeting

2139
01:10:02,710 --> 01:10:03,840
unless you are closing their

2140
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,430
school, which is why I, as a

2141
01:10:06,430 --> 01:10:07,311
board member. And even then,

2142
01:10:07,311 --> 01:10:09,179
there was not a lot of people.

2143
01:10:09,179 --> 01:10:10,347
So that's why I, as a board

2144
01:10:10,347 --> 01:10:12,149
member, took initiative to go

2145
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:13,583
out to my community and have

2146
01:10:13,583 --> 01:10:14,985
community meetings there. So I

2147
01:10:14,985 --> 01:10:16,153
think when we have this

2148
01:10:16,153 --> 01:10:17,588
conversation about public

2149
01:10:17,588 --> 01:10:20,570
comment, we need to look at it

2150
01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:21,491
in the the ecosystem of there

2151
01:10:21,491 --> 01:10:23,359
are multiple ways to be

2152
01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:25,529
connecting with our community.

2153
01:10:25,529 --> 01:10:27,264
And this is one component of it

2154
01:10:27,264 --> 01:10:29,399
that we are trying to make our

2155
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:30,734
our meetings a little bit more

2156
01:10:30,734 --> 01:10:32,302
efficient, more understandable

2157
01:10:32,302 --> 01:10:34,438
for people who watch. Because I

2158
01:10:34,438 --> 01:10:35,873
think when personally, when

2159
01:10:35,873 --> 01:10:37,708
there are public comments on

2160
01:10:37,708 --> 01:10:39,109
motions and if the motion is

2161
01:10:39,109 --> 01:10:42,109
just, hey, we should change

2162
01:10:42,346 --> 01:10:44,515
this word to that word, then

2163
01:10:44,515 --> 01:10:47,515
multiple people will speak. And

2164
01:10:48,819 --> 01:10:50,287
then the, the relevance of that

2165
01:10:50,287 --> 01:10:52,890
motion is lost. And then the

2166
01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:55,625
public gets confused and we get

2167
01:10:55,625 --> 01:10:56,827
confused again, I think there

2168
01:10:56,827 --> 01:10:58,996
are multiple ways. And I think

2169
01:10:58,996 --> 01:11:00,765
as individual board members, we

2170
01:11:00,765 --> 01:11:02,833
need to be more engaged in our

2171
01:11:02,833 --> 01:11:04,340
end of our. I won't comment on

2172
01:11:04,340 --> 01:11:06,136
anyone else's engagement, but

2173
01:11:06,136 --> 01:11:07,904
my plan is to be more engaged

2174
01:11:07,904 --> 01:11:09,306
in my community because that's

2175
01:11:09,306 --> 01:11:11,141
where I think public comment is

2176
01:11:11,141 --> 01:11:14,141
more accessible for who I

2177
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,479
represent going forward. I did

2178
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:20,518
want some clarity about job

2179
01:11:20,518 --> 01:11:21,952
hiring because that is

2180
01:11:21,952 --> 01:11:23,354
something in class size

2181
01:11:23,354 --> 01:11:25,754
concerns. That's something that

2182
01:11:25,957 --> 01:11:26,623
we have gotten emails about.

2183
01:11:26,623 --> 01:11:27,725
That's something that

2184
01:11:27,725 --> 01:11:30,725
principals have reached out to

2185
01:11:31,329 --> 01:11:32,763
me about. So what is that

2186
01:11:32,763 --> 01:11:34,231
process going to look like?

2187
01:11:34,231 --> 01:11:36,834
When can they hire more

2188
01:11:36,834 --> 01:11:38,902
teachers? Can we expand on why

2189
01:11:38,902 --> 01:11:42,502
we switched to units instead of

2190
01:11:43,206 --> 01:11:45,776
fte? And I think the the

2191
01:11:45,776 --> 01:11:47,612
overwhelming thing I keep

2192
01:11:47,612 --> 01:11:48,945
hearing is the concern that in

2193
01:11:48,945 --> 01:11:50,180
AUGUST, we're going to have a

2194
01:11:50,180 --> 01:11:52,830
bunch of high schoolers or a

2195
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:53,284
bunch of kids in a room with

2196
01:11:53,284 --> 01:11:55,953
one teacher because they can't

2197
01:11:55,953 --> 01:11:57,621
hire until OCTOBER. So I guess

2198
01:11:57,621 --> 01:12:00,858
if I could get walk through a

2199
01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:02,359
timeline on hiring and address

2200
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:04,496
the class size concerns, and

2201
01:12:04,496 --> 01:12:05,863
then also an excellent

2202
01:12:05,863 --> 01:12:07,310
explanation on the units

2203
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:08,990
instead of fte.

2204
01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:10,200
>> Yep, absolutely. Thanks for

2205
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,202
the question, MISS Thompson. So

2206
01:12:12,202 --> 01:12:13,204
I'll turn it over to Ernie in a

2207
01:12:13,204 --> 01:12:14,705
minute. But there's no

2208
01:12:14,705 --> 01:12:16,374
moratorium on hiring teachers.

2209
01:12:16,374 --> 01:12:17,775
And I'll let Doctor Lozano go

2210
01:12:17,775 --> 01:12:21,375
through what hr is doing to

2211
01:12:21,379 --> 01:12:23,481
support that in a minute. Also,

2212
01:12:23,481 --> 01:12:25,160
for class size, we do follow

2213
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,751
state statute when it comes to

2214
01:12:26,751 --> 01:12:28,286
class size. Do we want them

2215
01:12:28,286 --> 01:12:30,755
smaller. Yes. That's the part

2216
01:12:30,755 --> 01:12:32,524
of the process. That one

2217
01:12:32,524 --> 01:12:34,793
initiative that we kind of

2218
01:12:34,793 --> 01:12:36,600
sunsetted in DECEMBER, we're

2219
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,296
going to have to start that

2220
01:12:38,296 --> 01:12:39,731
back up this summer because we

2221
01:12:39,731 --> 01:12:42,199
are a little high school

2222
01:12:42,199 --> 01:12:44,350
centric when it comes to

2223
01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:46,571
funding, and that impacts class

2224
01:12:46,571 --> 01:12:48,971
sizes for elementary school

2225
01:12:49,841 --> 01:12:52,710
grades. Also, it was three

2226
01:12:52,710 --> 01:12:54,790
things. Oh, the units versus.

2227
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:57,150
>> Yeah, the units versus fte.

2228
01:12:57,150 --> 01:12:59,518
>> Yeah. So units isn't a new

2229
01:12:59,518 --> 01:13:01,319
concept everywhere I've been.

2230
01:13:01,319 --> 01:13:03,880
And in other large districts we

2231
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,290
utilize units. It actually

2232
01:13:05,290 --> 01:13:07,793
helps to ensure that the

2233
01:13:07,793 --> 01:13:09,260
dollars are being spent on the

2234
01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:10,695
units, instructional personnel,

2235
01:13:10,695 --> 01:13:12,695
or even non-instructional

2236
01:13:13,932 --> 01:13:16,932
personnel on that campus. And

2237
01:13:17,869 --> 01:13:19,703
if principals or school leaders

2238
01:13:19,703 --> 01:13:22,207
want to spend the money

2239
01:13:22,207 --> 01:13:22,874
allocated for a position, be it

2240
01:13:22,874 --> 01:13:24,242
non-instructional instructional

2241
01:13:24,242 --> 01:13:25,309
on something else, they just

2242
01:13:25,309 --> 01:13:27,212
need to converse with the

2243
01:13:27,212 --> 01:13:29,347
regional office and and see if

2244
01:13:29,347 --> 01:13:32,250
it's adequate to trade that

2245
01:13:32,250 --> 01:13:33,752
offer things instead of an

2246
01:13:33,752 --> 01:13:35,187
instructional person or a

2247
01:13:35,187 --> 01:13:37,187
non-instructional person as

2248
01:13:37,322 --> 01:13:39,157
well. Go ahead Doctor Lozano.

2249
01:13:39,157 --> 01:13:40,893
>> Thank you, Doctor Hepburn.

2250
01:13:40,893 --> 01:13:43,950
Ernie Lozano Chief Human

2251
01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:45,230
Resources Officer So the hr

2252
01:13:45,230 --> 01:13:47,640
team has been working fast and

2253
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,834
furious these past few weeks.

2254
01:13:48,834 --> 01:13:51,337
We just finished placing all

2255
01:13:51,337 --> 01:13:52,471
our surplus teachers into

2256
01:13:52,471 --> 01:13:54,940
positions, and we're able to

2257
01:13:54,940 --> 01:13:56,909
find all our surplus teachers

2258
01:13:56,909 --> 01:13:59,611
positions. As of this morning,

2259
01:13:59,611 --> 01:14:01,479
the district is fully hiring.

2260
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,879
Teachers and principals are

2261
01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:06,152
able to create their

2262
01:14:06,152 --> 01:14:08,287
requisitions and put in their

2263
01:14:08,287 --> 01:14:10,890
ads. The early transfer window

2264
01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:12,190
also opened this morning for

2265
01:14:12,190 --> 01:14:14,359
principals and schools, so

2266
01:14:14,359 --> 01:14:16,695
schools are moving full steam

2267
01:14:16,695 --> 01:14:18,620
ahead to ensure by the opening

2268
01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:21,634
day of school and that first

2269
01:14:21,634 --> 01:14:23,402
day of pre planning, they have

2270
01:14:23,402 --> 01:14:25,538
as full of staff as possible to

2271
01:14:25,538 --> 01:14:28,440
meet the needs of of their

2272
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:30,209
students. When you look at

2273
01:14:30,209 --> 01:14:33,209
throughout the summer, we don't

2274
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,948
we don't wait as as students

2275
01:14:35,948 --> 01:14:37,782
continue to register. So we

2276
01:14:37,782 --> 01:14:39,584
don't officially count students

2277
01:14:39,584 --> 01:14:42,880
until they register at the

2278
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,880
school physically. And then as

2279
01:14:45,324 --> 01:14:46,759
numbers go up, we have a

2280
01:14:46,759 --> 01:14:47,827
comprehensive team with

2281
01:14:47,827 --> 01:14:49,827
demographics, teaching and

2282
01:14:50,128 --> 01:14:52,164
learning and hr that monitor

2283
01:14:52,164 --> 01:14:53,999
the increase and decrease of

2284
01:14:53,999 --> 01:14:55,534
student enrollment because at

2285
01:14:55,534 --> 01:14:57,937
the same time, some students

2286
01:14:57,937 --> 01:14:59,772
are registering, some students

2287
01:14:59,772 --> 01:15:01,574
are withdrawing to other

2288
01:15:01,574 --> 01:15:03,709
schools based on magnet. So we

2289
01:15:03,709 --> 01:15:05,110
don't wait till OCTOBER.

2290
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:06,312
Throughout the summer, we're

2291
01:15:06,312 --> 01:15:07,479
monitoring the enrollment at

2292
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,916
each school. We work with our

2293
01:15:09,916 --> 01:15:12,916
school principals, and as we

2294
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:14,854
see the need to add teachers,

2295
01:15:14,854 --> 01:15:16,622
we begin that process because

2296
01:15:16,622 --> 01:15:18,457
again, we know the importance

2297
01:15:18,457 --> 01:15:20,857
of students meeting their

2298
01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:22,795
teacher on day one and having a

2299
01:15:22,795 --> 01:15:24,563
successful year with a teacher

2300
01:15:24,563 --> 01:15:27,467
180 days out of the school year.

2301
01:15:27,467 --> 01:15:30,369
>> And if I can add to one of

2302
01:15:30,369 --> 01:15:31,771
the comments I heard was about

2303
01:15:31,771 --> 01:15:33,600
enrollment projections and

2304
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,607
using the demographers numbers,

2305
01:15:34,607 --> 01:15:35,808
we don't get funded based on

2306
01:15:35,808 --> 01:15:37,543
the enrollment projections of

2307
01:15:37,543 --> 01:15:39,120
our demographer. We get funded

2308
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,114
based on enrollment projections

2309
01:15:41,114 --> 01:15:43,283
by the state, and they've been

2310
01:15:43,283 --> 01:15:45,117
pretty spot on in my career in

2311
01:15:45,117 --> 01:15:45,852
education. And so demographers

2312
01:15:45,852 --> 01:15:46,919
numbers could be totally

2313
01:15:46,919 --> 01:15:48,721
different because they're using

2314
01:15:48,721 --> 01:15:50,523
different variables, gathering

2315
01:15:50,523 --> 01:15:52,224
data from municipalities and

2316
01:15:52,224 --> 01:15:53,759
also the county as far as

2317
01:15:53,759 --> 01:15:56,262
growth in the area or the lack

2318
01:15:56,262 --> 01:15:57,397
thereof, the the state uses

2319
01:15:57,397 --> 01:15:59,797
projection numbers based on

2320
01:16:00,566 --> 01:16:02,102
what they see as the trends of

2321
01:16:02,102 --> 01:16:04,502
students entering and exiting

2322
01:16:04,903 --> 01:16:05,972
the county, versus also

2323
01:16:05,972 --> 01:16:07,106
enrolling in the charter

2324
01:16:07,106 --> 01:16:09,506
schools, voucher systems and

2325
01:16:09,542 --> 01:16:11,744
things like that. And they are

2326
01:16:11,744 --> 01:16:14,144
very whatever methodology they

2327
01:16:14,647 --> 01:16:16,483
use, they keep tight. It is

2328
01:16:16,483 --> 01:16:18,551
very close to the numbers that

2329
01:16:18,551 --> 01:16:20,190
they project every year, at

2330
01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:21,821
least for the past 20 plus

2331
01:16:21,821 --> 01:16:23,622
years I've been in education.

2332
01:16:23,622 --> 01:16:25,392
So that's how we are actually

2333
01:16:25,392 --> 01:16:26,859
funded. So we could build our

2334
01:16:26,859 --> 01:16:28,628
budget for the upcoming school

2335
01:16:28,628 --> 01:16:30,630
year. So if we're if folks are

2336
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:32,630
paying attention to

2337
01:16:32,265 --> 01:16:34,665
demographers numbers here, it's

2338
01:16:34,867 --> 01:16:37,303
going to be off. We we fund, we

2339
01:16:37,303 --> 01:16:38,804
get we receive funding based on

2340
01:16:38,804 --> 01:16:40,840
projections from the state for

2341
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,842
the upcoming school year.

2342
01:16:42,842 --> 01:16:44,770
>> And I just want to dive a

2343
01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:45,579
little bit more into class size

2344
01:16:45,579 --> 01:16:48,579
because like my second grader

2345
01:16:49,182 --> 01:16:51,184
had 26 kids in his class. And

2346
01:16:51,184 --> 01:16:52,785
yeah, that is what it is. But I

2347
01:16:52,785 --> 01:16:54,988
think when parents hear the

2348
01:16:54,988 --> 01:16:56,988
recommendation of 18 in

2349
01:16:57,457 --> 01:16:58,859
elementary and, and 20 and then

2350
01:16:58,859 --> 01:17:00,327
25, and then we say we're

2351
01:17:00,327 --> 01:17:02,529
following class sizes, but they

2352
01:17:02,529 --> 01:17:03,930
walk into a school and it's not

2353
01:17:03,930 --> 01:17:06,699
happening. Like, can you just

2354
01:17:06,699 --> 01:17:07,568
expand on what the perception

2355
01:17:07,568 --> 01:17:09,370
of following that is?

2356
01:17:09,370 --> 01:17:11,138
>> Yeah, absolutely. So for the,

2357
01:17:11,138 --> 01:17:12,606
in a nutshell, it's based off

2358
01:17:12,606 --> 01:17:14,741
of school average per that

2359
01:17:14,741 --> 01:17:17,610
grade level, right? For k

2360
01:17:17,610 --> 01:17:19,980
through two, the k through two,

2361
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:21,448
three through five. And then

2362
01:17:21,448 --> 01:17:22,583
for middle school and high

2363
01:17:22,583 --> 01:17:24,485
schools based on the actual

2364
01:17:24,485 --> 01:17:26,219
school average, not so, so much

2365
01:17:26,219 --> 01:17:28,619
specifically from class to

2366
01:17:28,756 --> 01:17:31,580
class. One of the things that

2367
01:17:31,580 --> 01:17:32,459
we have to embark on, because

2368
01:17:32,459 --> 01:17:34,528
it just hasn't been done is,

2369
01:17:34,528 --> 01:17:38,128
like I said, the high school

2370
01:17:38,165 --> 01:17:39,599
schedule, a lot of funding is

2371
01:17:39,599 --> 01:17:41,769
garnered on the high school

2372
01:17:41,769 --> 01:17:43,537
schedule to make that work. A

2373
01:17:43,537 --> 01:17:44,605
block schedule is very

2374
01:17:44,605 --> 01:17:46,105
expensive versus a straight

2375
01:17:46,105 --> 01:17:48,242
seven and all those other

2376
01:17:48,242 --> 01:17:49,509
components to actually pour

2377
01:17:49,509 --> 01:17:50,544
money back into elementary

2378
01:17:50,544 --> 01:17:52,313
schools so we can actually

2379
01:17:52,313 --> 01:17:53,614
lower our class sizes, you know,

2380
01:17:53,614 --> 01:17:55,282
to what we see as the best

2381
01:17:55,282 --> 01:17:55,749
class size for Broward County

2382
01:17:55,749 --> 01:17:56,851
public schools.

2383
01:17:56,851 --> 01:17:58,986
>> And is that standard

2384
01:17:58,986 --> 01:17:59,720
practice to take the average?

2385
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,720
>> Yes.

2386
01:18:03,724 --> 01:18:05,526
>> And is that. So that's how

2387
01:18:05,526 --> 01:18:06,661
we're staying in compliance is

2388
01:18:06,661 --> 01:18:08,129
taking the average. And that's

2389
01:18:08,129 --> 01:18:10,197
what every district does.

2390
01:18:10,197 --> 01:18:12,197
>> Yep. Correct.

2391
01:18:12,299 --> 01:18:13,367
>> I would I think all of us

2392
01:18:13,367 --> 01:18:14,568
would agree that class sizes

2393
01:18:14,568 --> 01:18:16,304
would be better, smaller. But I

2394
01:18:16,304 --> 01:18:19,206
know that that's something that

2395
01:18:19,206 --> 01:18:20,608
we are, we are working on. I

2396
01:18:20,608 --> 01:18:22,476
think there's also something to,

2397
01:18:22,476 --> 01:18:23,810
to say when it's like a gifting

2398
01:18:23,810 --> 01:18:26,790
or high achieving class, they

2399
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:27,882
want to have as many kids able

2400
01:18:27,882 --> 01:18:29,650
to access that curriculum. So

2401
01:18:29,650 --> 01:18:31,752
maybe those classes are higher

2402
01:18:31,752 --> 01:18:33,621
because of, of that reason.

2403
01:18:33,621 --> 01:18:35,389
>> Correct. So you will have

2404
01:18:35,389 --> 01:18:36,823
certain I would call them

2405
01:18:36,823 --> 01:18:38,393
specialty classes gifted in

2406
01:18:38,393 --> 01:18:41,393
classes like that, that usually

2407
01:18:41,462 --> 01:18:43,663
are typically smaller than your

2408
01:18:43,663 --> 01:18:44,699
regular ed classes.

2409
01:18:44,699 --> 01:18:46,699
>> All right.

2410
01:18:48,369 --> 01:18:51,272
>> And then I wanted to touch a

2411
01:18:51,272 --> 01:18:53,410
little bit on the writing and

2412
01:18:53,410 --> 01:18:54,242
thank our student for speaking

2413
01:18:54,242 --> 01:18:56,110
up and, and finding something

2414
01:18:56,110 --> 01:19:00,910
to say. I know we can be a

2415
01:19:01,282 --> 01:19:03,484
little intimidating. I do think

2416
01:19:03,484 --> 01:19:05,286
it, it might be teacher

2417
01:19:05,286 --> 01:19:07,421
specific as well, because again,

2418
01:19:07,421 --> 01:19:10,358
my second grader does, I see

2419
01:19:10,358 --> 01:19:12,426
his little writing notebook,

2420
01:19:12,426 --> 01:19:14,629
but having making sure we're

2421
01:19:14,629 --> 01:19:16,640
emphasizing those skills like

2422
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:17,532
holding a pencil and holding a

2423
01:19:17,532 --> 01:19:20,368
pen, because I think that's

2424
01:19:20,368 --> 01:19:23,338
kind of a lost art. And I think

2425
01:19:23,338 --> 01:19:26,338
with the addition to cursive

2426
01:19:27,241 --> 01:19:28,409
writing that's now mandated,

2427
01:19:28,409 --> 01:19:30,211
some of those skills will come

2428
01:19:30,211 --> 01:19:32,313
back. But I think it's, it's

2429
01:19:32,313 --> 01:19:35,149
good to give teachers support

2430
01:19:35,149 --> 01:19:37,652
to do that. And then I did want

2431
01:19:37,652 --> 01:19:39,854
to talk about the mental health

2432
01:19:39,854 --> 01:19:41,623
concerns that the chair brought

2433
01:19:41,623 --> 01:19:44,859
up. One of our chairs brought

2434
01:19:44,859 --> 01:19:48,629
up, I had asked for when we

2435
01:19:48,629 --> 01:19:50,232
were changing the the structure

2436
01:19:50,232 --> 01:19:52,500
of our mental health department

2437
01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,569
for them to bring back kind of

2438
01:19:54,569 --> 01:19:56,504
what the plan is to deliver

2439
01:19:56,504 --> 01:19:57,806
services. And I just want one,

2440
01:19:57,806 --> 01:19:59,274
to make sure that we're

2441
01:19:59,274 --> 01:20:01,274
including suicide prevention

2442
01:20:01,442 --> 01:20:02,511
and tier one level

2443
01:20:02,511 --> 01:20:04,120
interventions across the

2444
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,146
district, but I wanted to see

2445
01:20:05,146 --> 01:20:06,114
when that presentation will

2446
01:20:06,114 --> 01:20:07,548
come back.

2447
01:20:07,548 --> 01:20:09,384
>> Yeah, we can follow up

2448
01:20:09,384 --> 01:20:10,685
because we're presenting and

2449
01:20:10,685 --> 01:20:11,919
going over all of that in

2450
01:20:11,919 --> 01:20:13,822
cabinetirst just to give.

2451
01:20:13,822 --> 01:20:15,900
>> That was my yeah, I know

2452
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:16,824
it's going to take just so they

2453
01:20:16,824 --> 01:20:18,393
know that we're hearing this

2454
01:20:18,393 --> 01:20:18,693
concern. So by AUGUST or

2455
01:20:18,693 --> 01:20:19,794
SEPTEMBER.

2456
01:20:19,794 --> 01:20:20,428
>> Oh, absolutely. Before

2457
01:20:20,428 --> 01:20:22,428
AUGUST. Yes.

2458
01:20:24,465 --> 01:20:27,465
>> All right. And then that's

2459
01:20:28,403 --> 01:20:30,205
all. Thank you.

2460
01:20:30,205 --> 01:20:32,605
>> Thank you. Our student

2461
01:20:32,707 --> 01:20:35,610
advisor would like to speak.

2462
01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:36,744
>> Okay. Thank you. So I did

2463
01:20:36,744 --> 01:20:37,846
actually have a question. First

2464
01:20:37,846 --> 01:20:39,615
of all, Allison. Hi. I heard

2465
01:20:39,615 --> 01:20:40,816
you're going to Western. I'm

2466
01:20:40,816 --> 01:20:42,818
from Western, so I welcome you

2467
01:20:42,818 --> 01:20:44,253
in advance. And then second of

2468
01:20:44,253 --> 01:20:45,687
all to our gifted advisory

2469
01:20:45,687 --> 01:20:47,890
council. This is a genuine

2470
01:20:47,890 --> 01:20:49,240
question because I know a lot

2471
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,158
of times people will ask to try

2472
01:20:50,158 --> 01:20:51,226
and like, trip someone up. I'm

2473
01:20:51,226 --> 01:20:53,128
asking genuinely, what do you

2474
01:20:53,128 --> 01:20:54,296
think would be the best way?

2475
01:20:54,296 --> 01:20:55,764
Because with the ai, you had

2476
01:20:55,764 --> 01:20:57,199
mentioned that you didn't

2477
01:20:57,199 --> 01:20:58,200
really see any true

2478
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,401
implementation plans. It's just

2479
01:20:59,401 --> 01:21:01,537
kind of like, oh, ai is good,

2480
01:21:01,537 --> 01:21:03,339
but you didn't see any real

2481
01:21:03,339 --> 01:21:05,441
depth there. So I wanted to ask

2482
01:21:05,441 --> 01:21:07,309
you if you had any idea of what

2483
01:21:07,309 --> 01:21:08,444
you would need to see to kind

2484
01:21:08,444 --> 01:21:09,545
of show you, because obviously

2485
01:21:09,545 --> 01:21:11,447
if you're thinking it, that

2486
01:21:11,447 --> 01:21:12,848
means a lot of other people are

2487
01:21:12,848 --> 01:21:14,149
as well. Yeah. I see people

2488
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:15,618
shaking their heads. Yes, or

2489
01:21:15,618 --> 01:21:17,553
nodding their heads. So do you

2490
01:21:17,553 --> 01:21:18,754
have any ideas as to what you

2491
01:21:18,754 --> 01:21:20,656
would need to see to kind of

2492
01:21:20,656 --> 01:21:21,857
prove to you that it's good?

2493
01:21:21,857 --> 01:21:23,692
>> It's not really proof, but

2494
01:21:23,692 --> 01:21:24,860
it's more like, here's a lesson

2495
01:21:24,860 --> 01:21:26,762
plan. This is what we're going

2496
01:21:26,762 --> 01:21:27,797
to talk about as far as science.

2497
01:21:27,797 --> 01:21:28,797
This is the teaching

2498
01:21:28,797 --> 01:21:30,665
methodology that that's going

2499
01:21:30,665 --> 01:21:31,900
to be used. And it doesn't have

2500
01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:33,569
to be an extreme detail, but

2501
01:21:33,569 --> 01:21:34,637
have there been any careful

2502
01:21:34,637 --> 01:21:35,738
thought out examples of how

2503
01:21:35,738 --> 01:21:37,173
it's going to be used,

2504
01:21:37,173 --> 01:21:38,907
especially with advanced

2505
01:21:38,907 --> 01:21:40,209
academics? Okay. That that's a

2506
01:21:40,209 --> 01:21:41,344
broad topic that covers gifted,

2507
01:21:41,344 --> 01:21:43,312
that covers high achieving,

2508
01:21:43,312 --> 01:21:44,379
that covers a lot of other

2509
01:21:44,379 --> 01:21:46,882
advisories that are here as

2510
01:21:46,882 --> 01:21:49,180
well. So something a little bit

2511
01:21:49,180 --> 01:21:50,953
more down to home, down to

2512
01:21:50,953 --> 01:21:52,622
earth that people can consume

2513
01:21:52,622 --> 01:21:54,990
and recognize, you know, that's

2514
01:21:54,990 --> 01:21:56,625
a really good idea. Something

2515
01:21:56,625 --> 01:21:57,927
that brings a little light bulb

2516
01:21:57,927 --> 01:21:59,462
moment. And it's like, you know,

2517
01:21:59,462 --> 01:22:02,365
that's kind of cool. Not

2518
01:22:02,365 --> 01:22:05,365
something like vr head glasses

2519
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,137
for certain topics that not so

2520
01:22:08,137 --> 01:22:09,372
much. That's kind of like what

2521
01:22:09,372 --> 01:22:11,207
I think our parents are looking

2522
01:22:11,207 --> 01:22:13,420
for as far as what's going to

2523
01:22:13,420 --> 01:22:14,209
be used. Yes, we know what's

2524
01:22:14,209 --> 01:22:16,379
here. We know what's going to

2525
01:22:16,379 --> 01:22:19,615
be used how. Give us some good

2526
01:22:19,615 --> 01:22:22,150
examples, some genius examples,

2527
01:22:23,985 --> 01:22:26,385
that type of thing.

2528
01:22:27,523 --> 01:22:29,523
>> Thank you.

2529
01:22:29,726 --> 01:22:31,726
>> That's it.

2530
01:22:31,861 --> 01:22:34,861
>> Oh, no. Okay. All right,

2531
01:22:41,237 --> 01:22:43,237
MRS. Alhadeff.

2532
01:22:43,406 --> 01:22:45,806
>> Question for Doctor Hepburn

2533
01:22:48,144 --> 01:22:51,140
is how are we con filtering out

2534
01:22:51,140 --> 01:22:53,414
inappropriate content? If one

2535
01:22:53,483 --> 01:22:56,190
of our students access a

2536
01:22:56,190 --> 01:22:59,190
restricted YouTube website or a

2537
01:23:04,995 --> 01:23:06,129
YouTube video on YouTube.

2538
01:23:06,129 --> 01:23:08,130
>> Pitch that over to MR.

2539
01:23:08,130 --> 01:23:10,330
Bradford so he can get a little

2540
01:23:10,330 --> 01:23:13,330
bit technical about how we

2541
01:23:14,371 --> 01:23:15,505
actually deal with those issues.

2542
01:23:15,505 --> 01:23:16,906
>> Thank you, doctor. Matthew

2543
01:23:16,906 --> 01:23:19,306
Bradford, Executive Director of

2544
01:23:19,776 --> 01:23:22,245
Technology operations if I if I

2545
01:23:22,245 --> 01:23:23,479
MAY. MR. Alhadeff, can you

2546
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:24,748
clarify a little bit more when

2547
01:23:24,748 --> 01:23:27,748
it comes to your question

2548
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,840
regarding YouTube?

2549
01:23:31,254 --> 01:23:34,124
>> Yes. So student goes on to

2550
01:23:34,124 --> 01:23:37,724
YouTube and class and goes to

2551
01:23:38,461 --> 01:23:40,930
an inappropriate video. How are

2552
01:23:40,930 --> 01:23:43,499
we what is our line of defense

2553
01:23:43,499 --> 01:23:46,402
to make sure they don't have

2554
01:23:46,402 --> 01:23:47,870
access to that video?

2555
01:23:47,870 --> 01:23:49,672
>> Thank thank you for the

2556
01:23:49,672 --> 01:23:51,842
clarification. We have a tool

2557
01:23:51,842 --> 01:23:54,711
called line Wise that we use

2558
01:23:54,711 --> 01:23:56,146
that monitors when it comes to

2559
01:23:56,146 --> 01:23:57,981
any activity, when it comeseso

2560
01:23:57,981 --> 01:23:59,783
our s studes fro an inintern

2561
01:23:59,783 --> 01:24:02,783
peperspecte. Andnd we can, uu

2562
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:04,987
know, throw out as many attacks

2563
01:24:04,987 --> 01:24:06,189
when it comes to that, if, if

2564
01:24:06,189 --> 01:24:07,992
at all possible. So what we're

2565
01:24:07,992 --> 01:24:09,126
using now from a line wise

2566
01:24:09,126 --> 01:24:10,593
perspective allows us to

2567
01:24:10,593 --> 01:24:12,362
monitor, it allows us to look

2568
01:24:12,362 --> 01:24:14,164
at activity when it comes to

2569
01:24:14,164 --> 01:24:15,565
students and those types of

2570
01:24:15,565 --> 01:24:18,135
situations we can address. And

2571
01:24:18,135 --> 01:24:20,637
if by chance we, the tool that

2572
01:24:20,637 --> 01:24:22,839
we're using misses that

2573
01:24:22,839 --> 01:24:24,641
particular site, we can

2574
01:24:24,641 --> 01:24:26,243
definitely get that site and

2575
01:24:26,243 --> 01:24:28,643
make certain it's prohibited

2576
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:31,810
moving forward.

2577
01:24:31,810 --> 01:24:32,983
>> So when the student goes to

2578
01:24:32,983 --> 01:24:34,652
that inappropriate video, will

2579
01:24:34,652 --> 01:24:37,186
it block them from being able

2580
01:24:37,186 --> 01:24:39,586
to watch the video?

2581
01:24:40,457 --> 01:24:42,457
>> Absolutely.

2582
01:24:43,661 --> 01:24:46,530
>> Okay, great. And my next

2583
01:24:46,530 --> 01:24:47,965
comment is on the cursive.

2584
01:24:47,965 --> 01:24:50,867
Obviously, I'm a big proponent

2585
01:24:50,867 --> 01:24:53,867
of our, our students learning

2586
01:24:54,839 --> 01:24:56,974
how to write cursive. And it

2587
01:24:56,974 --> 01:24:59,143
really helps with their brain

2588
01:24:59,143 --> 01:25:01,543
development and making those

2589
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:03,814
learning connections. So Doctor

2590
01:25:03,814 --> 01:25:04,982
Hepburn, are our students

2591
01:25:04,982 --> 01:25:06,384
learning cursive and if so,

2592
01:25:06,384 --> 01:25:07,840
what grade are they learning it

2593
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,840
in?

2594
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:10,321
>> Yes, I do know it's part of

2595
01:25:10,321 --> 01:25:12,890
one of the grade levels

2596
01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:13,924
elementary curriculum. I know

2597
01:25:13,924 --> 01:25:16,924
Doctor Cohen, if you know

2598
01:25:17,194 --> 01:25:19,594
specifically what grade level

2599
01:25:19,730 --> 01:25:20,598
it's in third grade. Third

2600
01:25:20,598 --> 01:25:22,900
grade. MISS Alhadeff, have you

2601
01:25:22,900 --> 01:25:24,900
heard that?

2602
01:25:25,769 --> 01:25:27,972
>> Okay, so are are they so did

2603
01:25:27,972 --> 01:25:29,774
they learn cursive this year in

2604
01:25:29,774 --> 01:25:31,208
third grade, or is it starting

2605
01:25:31,208 --> 01:25:33,208
next year?

2606
01:25:33,377 --> 01:25:35,513
>> It. Go ahead doctor, it is.

2607
01:25:35,513 --> 01:25:37,648
It's this year and we're also

2608
01:25:37,648 --> 01:25:39,450
it's embedded in the ifc as

2609
01:25:39,450 --> 01:25:41,986
well in MISS Alhadeff. That's

2610
01:25:41,986 --> 01:25:43,788
also why since hearing from the

2611
01:25:43,788 --> 01:25:46,290
public during the org chart,

2612
01:25:46,290 --> 01:25:47,791
there is a specific position

2613
01:25:47,791 --> 01:25:49,159
that we created specifically

2614
01:25:49,159 --> 01:25:50,928
that focuses on writing not

2615
01:25:50,928 --> 01:25:52,397
only just cursive writing, but

2616
01:25:52,397 --> 01:25:53,498
integrating writing across

2617
01:25:53,498 --> 01:25:56,367
curriculum in there. And so

2618
01:25:56,367 --> 01:25:58,136
there is a content expert that

2619
01:25:58,136 --> 01:25:59,637
is emphasizing that we also

2620
01:25:59,637 --> 01:26:01,105
have Writeable, which is

2621
01:26:01,105 --> 01:26:02,840
infused within the curriculum,

2622
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:03,907
which should have some daily

2623
01:26:03,907 --> 01:26:05,409
lessons for teachers to

2624
01:26:05,409 --> 01:26:06,610
implement writing within the

2625
01:26:06,610 --> 01:26:07,679
curriculum. But we obviously

2626
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:09,447
are hearing those are some

2627
01:26:09,447 --> 01:26:10,547
things we're working on to make

2628
01:26:10,547 --> 01:26:11,816
sure that teachers are using

2629
01:26:11,816 --> 01:26:13,284
that time to be able to

2630
01:26:13,284 --> 01:26:15,684
implement writing within the

2631
01:26:16,521 --> 01:26:18,356
instructional day.

2632
01:26:18,356 --> 01:26:21,356
>> What happens, or could there

2633
01:26:21,593 --> 01:26:23,728
be something for students in

2634
01:26:23,728 --> 01:26:26,631
high school who did not learn

2635
01:26:26,631 --> 01:26:29,867
cursive to, you know, have some

2636
01:26:29,867 --> 01:26:32,737
type of course that they can

2637
01:26:32,737 --> 01:26:34,139
take something through our ai?

2638
01:26:34,139 --> 01:26:37,739
I don't know if there's an

2639
01:26:37,742 --> 01:26:40,678
ability for them to even go

2640
01:26:40,678 --> 01:26:43,181
back and self, you know, teach

2641
01:26:43,181 --> 01:26:44,616
themselves, you know, how to

2642
01:26:44,616 --> 01:26:47,850
learn cursive or are we, are we

2643
01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:48,552
giving them any tools? Because

2644
01:26:48,552 --> 01:26:50,722
obviously it's a really

2645
01:26:50,722 --> 01:26:52,457
important skill to have. And I

2646
01:26:52,457 --> 01:26:53,591
want to make sure that when our

2647
01:26:53,591 --> 01:26:55,794
students graduate, that they

2648
01:26:55,794 --> 01:26:57,596
can do some minimum things,

2649
01:26:57,596 --> 01:26:59,731
these life skills, like signing

2650
01:26:59,731 --> 01:27:01,166
their name in cursive, for

2651
01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:02,300
example.

2652
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,168
>> So that's something we can

2653
01:27:04,168 --> 01:27:05,537
obviously look at when we do

2654
01:27:05,537 --> 01:27:06,938
things like course recovery.

2655
01:27:06,938 --> 01:27:09,107
That is one thing that

2656
01:27:09,107 --> 01:27:11,309
obviously we can do as far as a

2657
01:27:11,309 --> 01:27:12,710
summer camp or an acceleration

2658
01:27:12,710 --> 01:27:14,846
camp, we can kind of take a

2659
01:27:14,846 --> 01:27:16,113
look at some programing and

2660
01:27:16,113 --> 01:27:17,783
scheduling that offer something

2661
01:27:17,783 --> 01:27:20,783
like that with an intervention.

2662
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,522
So absolutely, we can do that.

2663
01:27:23,522 --> 01:27:25,990
>> Okay. And then also is are

2664
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:28,390
we teaching keyboarding typing

2665
01:27:29,261 --> 01:27:30,462
skills for our students?

2666
01:27:30,462 --> 01:27:32,164
>> It's embedded in some of the

2667
01:27:32,164 --> 01:27:33,631
course content. It's not

2668
01:27:33,631 --> 01:27:35,990
necessarily required. One of

2669
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:36,468
the after action items that

2670
01:27:36,468 --> 01:27:38,271
we're looking at, obviously, as

2671
01:27:38,271 --> 01:27:39,704
we reduce our footprint of

2672
01:27:39,704 --> 01:27:41,539
assessment in the earlier

2673
01:27:41,539 --> 01:27:42,908
grades, we did talk about the

2674
01:27:42,908 --> 01:27:45,308
potential of making sure

2675
01:27:46,178 --> 01:27:47,646
students take typing skills to

2676
01:27:47,646 --> 01:27:49,415
ensure that when they are

2677
01:27:49,415 --> 01:27:51,583
taking this state assessment

2678
01:27:51,583 --> 01:27:52,818
test, that they are ready to

2679
01:27:52,818 --> 01:27:54,860
perform and utilize the keys in

2680
01:27:54,860 --> 01:27:55,921
an appropriate way that makes

2681
01:27:55,921 --> 01:27:57,323
them successful in taking those.

2682
01:27:57,323 --> 01:27:59,190
So we are implementing some

2683
01:27:59,190 --> 01:28:01,293
aspects of keyboarding at the

2684
01:28:01,293 --> 01:28:02,728
earlier grades to where the

2685
01:28:02,728 --> 01:28:05,128
reduction of assessments are

2686
01:28:05,598 --> 01:28:07,432
happening.

2687
01:28:07,432 --> 01:28:10,369
>> Okay, so do we have an

2688
01:28:10,369 --> 01:28:13,605
actual plan to, to make sure

2689
01:28:13,605 --> 01:28:14,974
that every student has these

2690
01:28:14,974 --> 01:28:16,742
keyboarding typing skills?

2691
01:28:16,742 --> 01:28:17,709
>> Yes we do. That plan has

2692
01:28:17,709 --> 01:28:18,944
been developed currently for

2693
01:28:18,944 --> 01:28:21,847
the summer and being rolled out

2694
01:28:21,847 --> 01:28:23,616
for next year.

2695
01:28:23,616 --> 01:28:26,452
>> Okay. Could you send a

2696
01:28:26,452 --> 01:28:29,540
follow up with the plan?

2697
01:28:29,540 --> 01:28:30,856
>> Absolutely.

2698
01:28:30,856 --> 01:28:32,958
>> Thank you. Thank you, MADAM

2699
01:28:32,958 --> 01:28:34,958
Chair.

2700
01:28:38,698 --> 01:28:41,980
>> Thank you, MR. Cervera.

2701
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,803
>> Thank you. Chair, a couple

2702
01:28:43,803 --> 01:28:45,571
questions for me, but I do want

2703
01:28:45,571 --> 01:28:48,571
to first start off by

2704
01:28:49,242 --> 01:28:51,900
acknowledging the ladies and

2705
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:52,440
gentlemen who came in and gave

2706
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:53,111
the reports. We always

2707
01:28:53,111 --> 01:28:54,547
appreciate you guys, appreciate

2708
01:28:54,547 --> 01:28:57,547
your efforts and appreciate the

2709
01:28:58,184 --> 01:29:00,719
feedback that we get from you

2710
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:02,822
on a monthly basis. And to our

2711
01:29:02,822 --> 01:29:05,822
rising freshman at Western High

2712
01:29:06,125 --> 01:29:07,893
School. Welcome. Glad to have

2713
01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:09,762
you in district six. And I'm

2714
01:29:09,762 --> 01:29:10,897
sure as as Lily can vouch for,

2715
01:29:10,897 --> 01:29:12,765
you're a tremendous high school.

2716
01:29:12,765 --> 01:29:16,169
So all the best as you start

2717
01:29:16,169 --> 01:29:18,400
your high school journey, MR.

2718
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,404
Superintendent, I've got some

2719
01:29:20,872 --> 01:29:23,272
questions about the state

2720
01:29:24,477 --> 01:29:25,912
statutory limits on class sizes.

2721
01:29:25,912 --> 01:29:28,312
I've had some conversations

2722
01:29:28,414 --> 01:29:32,140
with some folks, both in this

2723
01:29:32,180 --> 01:29:34,888
district as well as folks up in

2724
01:29:34,888 --> 01:29:37,890
Tallahassee. And I can never

2725
01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:39,259
really get a clear answer on

2726
01:29:39,259 --> 01:29:40,659
this. So I'm hoping maybe today

2727
01:29:40,659 --> 01:29:43,163
you can provide some some

2728
01:29:43,163 --> 01:29:45,265
further insight that will help

2729
01:29:45,265 --> 01:29:47,534
close some of these ongoing

2730
01:29:47,534 --> 01:29:49,668
questions. I understand what

2731
01:29:49,668 --> 01:29:51,504
the numbers are. I understand

2732
01:29:51,504 --> 01:29:53,306
that the gauge is given and in

2733
01:29:53,306 --> 01:29:55,842
in certain classes they have to

2734
01:29:55,842 --> 01:29:57,911
have x amount of students.

2735
01:29:57,911 --> 01:29:59,379
However, my question is what

2736
01:29:59,379 --> 01:30:02,282
happens if those numbers are

2737
01:30:02,282 --> 01:30:04,417
not being met? Do parents have

2738
01:30:04,417 --> 01:30:06,186
recourse? Do they have an

2739
01:30:06,186 --> 01:30:07,988
opportunity to go to some

2740
01:30:07,988 --> 01:30:10,388
administrative body? Is there

2741
01:30:10,557 --> 01:30:12,325
an agency up north or maybe in

2742
01:30:12,325 --> 01:30:14,861
Broward County, that they can

2743
01:30:14,861 --> 01:30:17,730
file a formal complaint with?

2744
01:30:17,730 --> 01:30:19,566
What can my parents do if their

2745
01:30:19,566 --> 01:30:22,369
children are in classes that

2746
01:30:22,369 --> 01:30:24,270
are vastly over enrolled for

2747
01:30:24,270 --> 01:30:26,706
whatever reason, and they are,

2748
01:30:26,706 --> 01:30:29,176
quite frankly, just not happy

2749
01:30:29,176 --> 01:30:30,610
with the student teacher ratio.

2750
01:30:30,610 --> 01:30:32,446
>> That part as far as what

2751
01:30:32,446 --> 01:30:34,180
opportunities for parents,

2752
01:30:34,180 --> 01:30:35,682
beyond talking to principals

2753
01:30:35,682 --> 01:30:37,149
and regional leaders and

2754
01:30:37,149 --> 01:30:38,585
district leaders. Beyond that,

2755
01:30:38,585 --> 01:30:40,387
I have to provide a follow up

2756
01:30:40,387 --> 01:30:41,654
and do some research. But there

2757
01:30:41,654 --> 01:30:43,557
is a moment in time after I

2758
01:30:43,557 --> 01:30:45,392
want to say, like OCTOBER, when

2759
01:30:45,392 --> 01:30:47,928
students are still enrolling in

2760
01:30:47,928 --> 01:30:49,595
schools, that there is after

2761
01:30:49,595 --> 01:30:51,498
that, after that date. I want

2762
01:30:51,498 --> 01:30:53,300
to say it's OCTOBER, right?

2763
01:30:53,300 --> 01:30:54,735
There's really no recourse

2764
01:30:54,735 --> 01:30:56,904
because that's out of the

2765
01:30:56,904 --> 01:30:58,500
control of the school and the

2766
01:30:58,500 --> 01:30:59,106
district. If additional

2767
01:30:59,106 --> 01:31:00,206
students are continuing to come

2768
01:31:00,206 --> 01:31:02,309
into that class, if you have

2769
01:31:02,309 --> 01:31:04,878
one or 2 or 3 students continue

2770
01:31:04,878 --> 01:31:07,140
to come into that class at that

2771
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:08,810
time, you can usually

2772
01:31:08,810 --> 01:31:09,249
principals would look at the

2773
01:31:09,249 --> 01:31:11,318
whole makeup of their school,

2774
01:31:11,318 --> 01:31:12,719
see if there's class size

2775
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:13,821
classes where they can

2776
01:31:13,821 --> 01:31:15,255
redistribute the students to

2777
01:31:15,255 --> 01:31:18,125
get the class sizes at a

2778
01:31:18,125 --> 01:31:19,559
certain point, or we MAY even

2779
01:31:19,559 --> 01:31:21,328
award them an additional

2780
01:31:21,328 --> 01:31:22,829
teacher as a as a strategy to

2781
01:31:22,829 --> 01:31:24,565
lower class sizes if that

2782
01:31:24,565 --> 01:31:26,320
happens. But other than that,

2783
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:27,534
there's really not any recourse

2784
01:31:27,534 --> 01:31:28,569
after OCTOBER besides

2785
01:31:28,569 --> 01:31:30,569
leveraging whatever strategy

2786
01:31:30,738 --> 01:31:32,872
possible to level out classes.

2787
01:31:32,872 --> 01:31:34,740
But before that, it's usually

2788
01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:35,409
talk to your principal, talk to

2789
01:31:35,409 --> 01:31:37,211
the regional leadership

2790
01:31:37,211 --> 01:31:38,312
district leadership so we can

2791
01:31:38,312 --> 01:31:40,113
analyze and see what the

2792
01:31:40,113 --> 01:31:41,182
situation is and react

2793
01:31:41,182 --> 01:31:42,515
appropriately. But beyond that,

2794
01:31:42,515 --> 01:31:42,683
I'll have to do research and

2795
01:31:42,683 --> 01:31:44,451
get.

2796
01:31:44,451 --> 01:31:45,619
>> I would very much appreciate

2797
01:31:45,619 --> 01:31:46,987
a follow up and. Well, of

2798
01:31:46,987 --> 01:31:48,722
course, I love our great

2799
01:31:48,722 --> 01:31:49,723
principals. I don't think

2800
01:31:49,723 --> 01:31:50,990
respectfully, sir, that that

2801
01:31:50,990 --> 01:31:52,826
can just be the answer. Just go

2802
01:31:52,826 --> 01:31:54,528
talk to the principal. If these

2803
01:31:54,528 --> 01:31:56,296
are laws in the books coming

2804
01:31:56,296 --> 01:31:57,640
from either state, Doe or the

2805
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,640
legislature or however, we got

2806
01:32:00,601 --> 01:32:02,200
to this threshold of what our

2807
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,402
student to teacher ratio

2808
01:32:04,538 --> 01:32:05,672
numbers are, and we are not

2809
01:32:05,672 --> 01:32:07,575
complying with that. For

2810
01:32:07,575 --> 01:32:09,343
whatever reason, parents need

2811
01:32:09,343 --> 01:32:11,279
to have recourse. They need to

2812
01:32:11,279 --> 01:32:13,580
be able to do something. If I'm

2813
01:32:13,580 --> 01:32:16,830
not complying with a kid's iep,

2814
01:32:16,830 --> 01:32:18,219
we know what can happen, right?

2815
01:32:18,219 --> 01:32:20,588
So and I'm not I'm not

2816
01:32:20,588 --> 01:32:22,523
suggesting that this is apples

2817
01:32:22,523 --> 01:32:23,991
to apples comparison, but

2818
01:32:23,991 --> 01:32:26,193
parents need to have recourse

2819
01:32:26,193 --> 01:32:27,962
if their kids are sitting in a

2820
01:32:27,962 --> 01:32:29,962
class with 28 kindergartners

2821
01:32:30,464 --> 01:32:32,266
and one teacher, because to me,

2822
01:32:32,266 --> 01:32:34,368
that is really, quite frankly,

2823
01:32:34,368 --> 01:32:35,436
not acceptable. So I'm very

2824
01:32:35,436 --> 01:32:36,604
much looking forward to that

2825
01:32:36,604 --> 01:32:37,538
follow up. MR. Superintendent,

2826
01:32:37,538 --> 01:32:40,241
I appreciate you willing to

2827
01:32:40,241 --> 01:32:44,441
take the lead on that next, if

2828
01:32:45,246 --> 01:32:49,149
I MAY. I believe it was Central

2829
01:32:49,149 --> 01:32:52,860
Area brought up a comment about

2830
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:54,486
paper based instruction. I'm

2831
01:32:55,656 --> 01:32:57,250
going to reserve some of my

2832
01:32:57,250 --> 01:32:58,526
concerns with this. All this

2833
01:32:58,526 --> 01:33:01,396
tech that's going on for the

2834
01:33:01,396 --> 01:33:04,996
next portion of the agenda here.

2835
01:33:05,767 --> 01:33:07,569
But I did hear a concern that

2836
01:33:07,569 --> 01:33:09,704
teachers are possibly being

2837
01:33:09,704 --> 01:33:11,872
punished or disciplined if they

2838
01:33:11,872 --> 01:33:14,420
are requesting or moving away

2839
01:33:14,420 --> 01:33:16,945
from the tech ed and pushing

2840
01:33:16,945 --> 01:33:17,979
more for paper based methods of

2841
01:33:17,979 --> 01:33:19,800
instruction, which,

2842
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,149
incidentally, I happen to be a

2843
01:33:22,149 --> 01:33:23,451
fan of. Is there any validity

2844
01:33:23,451 --> 01:33:25,520
to that comment? Have we heard

2845
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,222
of any instances in which a

2846
01:33:27,222 --> 01:33:28,423
teacher has said, you know what?

2847
01:33:28,423 --> 01:33:30,225
This is too much screen time

2848
01:33:30,225 --> 01:33:31,293
for my kids. Let's get the

2849
01:33:31,293 --> 01:33:32,360
notebooks out. Let's get the

2850
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,229
pencils out. Let's go old

2851
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:35,329
school on this, for lack of

2852
01:33:35,329 --> 01:33:36,697
better terms, and let's start

2853
01:33:36,697 --> 01:33:37,532
doing more paper based

2854
01:33:37,532 --> 01:33:39,601
instruction. Are you aware of

2855
01:33:39,601 --> 01:33:41,403
any teachers being disciplined

2856
01:33:41,403 --> 01:33:42,570
for making such a decision?

2857
01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:44,639
>> No, we wouldn't discipline

2858
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:46,908
teacher for anything like that.

2859
01:33:46,908 --> 01:33:48,709
A teacher has a lot of autonomy

2860
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:50,412
in the classroom of how they

2861
01:33:50,412 --> 01:33:51,846
actually provide instruction to

2862
01:33:51,846 --> 01:33:54,490
students, as long as they are

2863
01:33:54,490 --> 01:33:55,249
following the standard and the

2864
01:33:55,249 --> 01:33:56,717
intended rigor of that standard.

2865
01:33:56,717 --> 01:33:58,319
So the students are learning

2866
01:33:58,319 --> 01:33:59,453
what they're supposed to learn.

2867
01:33:59,453 --> 01:34:01,453
We're fine.

2868
01:34:01,589 --> 01:34:03,589
>> Brooke.

2869
01:34:03,592 --> 01:34:05,527
>> I do know I did not mean

2870
01:34:05,527 --> 01:34:07,663
that it is happening. It was a

2871
01:34:07,663 --> 01:34:09,131
policy suggestion. So as we go

2872
01:34:09,131 --> 01:34:10,932
forward and we adopt more

2873
01:34:10,932 --> 01:34:12,330
technology or ai, we're

2874
01:34:12,330 --> 01:34:14,433
suggesting that the district

2875
01:34:14,503 --> 01:34:15,970
have a policy to protect

2876
01:34:15,970 --> 01:34:17,970
teachers from potentially

2877
01:34:18,106 --> 01:34:19,874
having discipline. I will say

2878
01:34:19,874 --> 01:34:22,144
there MAY not be formal

2879
01:34:22,144 --> 01:34:24,279
discipline. There is incredible

2880
01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:26,415
pressure on teachers to get

2881
01:34:26,415 --> 01:34:28,183
their I ready minutes in to the

2882
01:34:28,183 --> 01:34:29,451
point that if they get to the

2883
01:34:29,451 --> 01:34:31,186
end of the week and they don't

2884
01:34:31,186 --> 01:34:32,253
have enough, those laptops are

2885
01:34:32,253 --> 01:34:34,155
coming out, whether it's part

2886
01:34:34,155 --> 01:34:35,457
of what they need to teach or

2887
01:34:35,457 --> 01:34:37,526
not. So formal discipline. I'm.

2888
01:34:37,526 --> 01:34:39,594
I did not make that accusation.

2889
01:34:39,594 --> 01:34:41,129
But we would like to see a

2890
01:34:41,129 --> 01:34:43,131
policy that protects our

2891
01:34:43,131 --> 01:34:44,767
educators and their autonomy in

2892
01:34:44,767 --> 01:34:47,636
the classroom to choose the

2893
01:34:47,636 --> 01:34:49,805
best methods they see for their

2894
01:34:49,805 --> 01:34:53,740
class. And we would like to

2895
01:34:53,740 --> 01:34:55,474
reduce the informal, incredible

2896
01:34:56,244 --> 01:34:57,846
pressure there is to do

2897
01:34:57,846 --> 01:34:59,148
internet based testing, where

2898
01:34:59,148 --> 01:35:00,983
the district and the principal

2899
01:35:00,983 --> 01:35:03,118
gets those results, as well as

2900
01:35:03,118 --> 01:35:04,920
the Iready and other

2901
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:05,821
supplemental software.

2902
01:35:05,821 --> 01:35:08,190
>> Thank you for that. Thank

2903
01:35:08,190 --> 01:35:10,590
you for the clarification.

2904
01:35:14,263 --> 01:35:17,166
Doctor Cohn, are you at. If I

2905
01:35:17,166 --> 01:35:19,702
am a history teacher and I

2906
01:35:19,702 --> 01:35:21,303
teach sixth grade history and I

2907
01:35:21,303 --> 01:35:22,438
say, you know what? I'm tired

2908
01:35:22,438 --> 01:35:24,339
of these things and I don't

2909
01:35:24,339 --> 01:35:26,542
want to do the laptops anymore.

2910
01:35:26,542 --> 01:35:28,543
I want to go back to the way we

2911
01:35:28,543 --> 01:35:31,914
did it when you and I were in

2912
01:35:31,914 --> 01:35:34,784
school. And I make this

2913
01:35:34,784 --> 01:35:36,285
decision as an educator, what

2914
01:35:36,285 --> 01:35:38,540
for the teachers out there

2915
01:35:38,540 --> 01:35:39,255
listening, can you explain the

2916
01:35:39,255 --> 01:35:40,555
process that that teacher needs

2917
01:35:40,555 --> 01:35:41,991
to go through with her

2918
01:35:41,991 --> 01:35:44,391
individual school when she

2919
01:35:45,227 --> 01:35:47,229
makes a decision like that?

2920
01:35:47,229 --> 01:35:48,231
>> So I would say that that is

2921
01:35:48,231 --> 01:35:49,565
still teacher discretion. It's

2922
01:35:49,565 --> 01:35:51,300
in the collective bargaining

2923
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:53,835
agreement that teachers do have

2924
01:35:53,835 --> 01:35:55,337
autonomy to determine which

2925
01:35:55,337 --> 01:35:56,705
teacher preference that they,

2926
01:35:56,705 --> 01:35:58,174
they choose to do and the

2927
01:35:58,174 --> 01:36:00,376
modality that they choose to do

2928
01:36:00,376 --> 01:36:01,878
it in.

2929
01:36:01,878 --> 01:36:03,979
>> So is that something I just

2930
01:36:03,979 --> 01:36:05,715
wake up and decide, do I need

2931
01:36:05,715 --> 01:36:07,583
to put my principal on notice?

2932
01:36:07,583 --> 01:36:09,652
Do I need to call the regional

2933
01:36:09,652 --> 01:36:10,753
supe? Do I need to do I need to

2934
01:36:10,753 --> 01:36:12,821
text Hepburn? Like, what do I

2935
01:36:12,821 --> 01:36:14,790
got to do if I'm a teacher and

2936
01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:16,159
I've made that decision?

2937
01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:17,627
>> That's a that's a teacher

2938
01:36:17,627 --> 01:36:19,627
choice.

2939
01:36:19,696 --> 01:36:21,630
>> I can tell you in a, in a,

2940
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:22,966
in a world of a teacher, of

2941
01:36:22,966 --> 01:36:24,734
course, usually groups of

2942
01:36:24,734 --> 01:36:25,802
teachers plan. If I'm a history

2943
01:36:25,802 --> 01:36:26,936
teacher, I'm planning with my

2944
01:36:26,936 --> 01:36:28,738
group of history teachers. And

2945
01:36:28,738 --> 01:36:29,872
we came up with this plan

2946
01:36:29,872 --> 01:36:31,741
together about how what we're

2947
01:36:31,741 --> 01:36:33,543
going to do and how we're going

2948
01:36:33,543 --> 01:36:35,144
to compare apples to apples at

2949
01:36:35,144 --> 01:36:36,712
the end of our lesson. So I

2950
01:36:36,712 --> 01:36:39,112
would suggest that teacher

2951
01:36:39,549 --> 01:36:41,170
talks with her teacher

2952
01:36:41,170 --> 01:36:43,186
curriculum group, right? So

2953
01:36:43,186 --> 01:36:44,287
they make sure that

2954
01:36:44,287 --> 01:36:45,455
instructional strategies are

2955
01:36:45,455 --> 01:36:47,356
going to change. And I'm going

2956
01:36:47,356 --> 01:36:48,458
to do it this way because

2957
01:36:48,458 --> 01:36:50,226
usually it's a high level of

2958
01:36:50,226 --> 01:36:51,428
collaboration. When it comes to

2959
01:36:51,428 --> 01:36:51,761
secondary teachers within a

2960
01:36:51,761 --> 01:36:53,595
department.

2961
01:36:53,595 --> 01:36:54,797
>> I understand that, and I'm

2962
01:36:54,797 --> 01:36:56,766
really not getting the answer

2963
01:36:56,766 --> 01:36:59,340
that I'm looking for. So I'm

2964
01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:01,137
going to ask the question again.

2965
01:37:01,137 --> 01:37:03,306
And maybe history was a bad

2966
01:37:03,306 --> 01:37:04,841
example. Okay, so whatever

2967
01:37:04,841 --> 01:37:06,909
class instruction you want to

2968
01:37:06,909 --> 01:37:09,779
put in this hypothetical, if

2969
01:37:09,779 --> 01:37:11,948
I'm a teacher and I'm at, oh, I

2970
01:37:11,948 --> 01:37:14,450
don't know, Western High School

2971
01:37:14,450 --> 01:37:15,585
and I decide I don't want the

2972
01:37:15,585 --> 01:37:17,720
computers in my classroom

2973
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,923
anymore, I want to go back to

2974
01:37:19,923 --> 01:37:22,250
paper based methods of

2975
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:23,860
instruction. What do I need to

2976
01:37:23,860 --> 01:37:25,995
do as a teacher to make that

2977
01:37:25,995 --> 01:37:27,464
happen? Do I have complete

2978
01:37:27,464 --> 01:37:28,698
autonomy to just walk into my

2979
01:37:28,698 --> 01:37:30,400
classroom and do that? Do I

2980
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:31,735
need to call print in this

2981
01:37:31,735 --> 01:37:32,969
hypothetical? Do I need to call

2982
01:37:32,969 --> 01:37:34,805
Dora and put her on notice

2983
01:37:34,805 --> 01:37:35,806
about what I plan to do? What

2984
01:37:35,806 --> 01:37:37,274
is the process?

2985
01:37:37,274 --> 01:37:39,309
>> You have autonomy. You are

2986
01:37:39,309 --> 01:37:41,111
the teacher in that classroom.

2987
01:37:41,111 --> 01:37:42,579
You have autonomy. As long as

2988
01:37:42,579 --> 01:37:44,381
you are teaching the standard,

2989
01:37:44,381 --> 01:37:45,815
you have autonomy and you can

2990
01:37:45,815 --> 01:37:46,717
walk classrooms. At the

2991
01:37:46,717 --> 01:37:48,317
beginning of the school year,

2992
01:37:48,317 --> 01:37:49,752
you're going to see teachers

2993
01:37:49,752 --> 01:37:51,588
teaching using different

2994
01:37:51,588 --> 01:37:53,560
methods, different strategies.

2995
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:54,591
Some leverage computers part of

2996
01:37:54,591 --> 01:37:55,158
the time,

2997
01:37:55,158 --> 01:37:56,759
>> Some leveraged computers

2998
01:37:56,759 --> 01:37:57,828
probably once a week to

2999
01:37:57,828 --> 01:37:59,828
supplement instruction.

3000
01:38:00,297 --> 01:38:01,698
Teachers are doing it different

3001
01:38:01,698 --> 01:38:02,933
across the board, so you won't

3002
01:38:02,933 --> 01:38:04,668
find one teacher teaching the

3003
01:38:04,668 --> 01:38:04,902
same way as a as another

3004
01:38:04,902 --> 01:38:06,103
teacher.

3005
01:38:06,103 --> 01:38:07,871
>> Okay, fantastic. And again,

3006
01:38:07,871 --> 01:38:08,972
just to, to tie the ribbon on

3007
01:38:08,972 --> 01:38:11,442
this and make sure that

3008
01:38:11,442 --> 01:38:12,509
everyone's 100% clear in my

3009
01:38:12,509 --> 01:38:14,745
hypothetical, I don't need to

3010
01:38:14,745 --> 01:38:16,647
go to the, I don't need to talk

3011
01:38:16,647 --> 01:38:18,114
to tumor and I don't need to

3012
01:38:18,114 --> 01:38:19,749
talk to you. If I'm a teacher

3013
01:38:19,749 --> 01:38:20,884
and I make this decision about

3014
01:38:20,884 --> 01:38:21,952
how I want to teach my

3015
01:38:21,952 --> 01:38:23,353
classroom, correct.

3016
01:38:23,353 --> 01:38:24,455
>> You, you have autonomy for

3017
01:38:24,455 --> 01:38:26,223
instructional strategies.

3018
01:38:26,223 --> 01:38:29,223
>> Excellent. Thank you for the

3019
01:38:33,970 --> 01:38:35,970
clarification. MADAM General

3020
01:38:38,168 --> 01:38:39,770
Counsel. I think if I was

3021
01:38:39,770 --> 01:38:42,439
taking down accurate notes when

3022
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:43,873
you were speaking, we've

3023
01:38:43,873 --> 01:38:46,443
certainly heard a lot of

3024
01:38:46,443 --> 01:38:48,913
pushback on some of this new

3025
01:38:48,913 --> 01:38:50,748
stuff and some of the greatest

3026
01:38:50,748 --> 01:38:52,483
concerns that I've heard in the

3027
01:38:52,483 --> 01:38:53,650
past weeks on this, since this

3028
01:38:53,650 --> 01:38:56,650
was first really introduced to

3029
01:38:57,955 --> 01:39:00,900
the public, is, number one, the

3030
01:39:00,900 --> 01:39:01,926
potential reduction in public

3031
01:39:01,926 --> 01:39:02,593
comment and how our

3032
01:39:02,593 --> 01:39:04,295
constituents feel as though

3033
01:39:04,295 --> 01:39:05,863
they're being cheated of their

3034
01:39:05,863 --> 01:39:07,997
opportunity to come and

3035
01:39:07,997 --> 01:39:10,330
properly in address this board

3036
01:39:10,330 --> 01:39:11,168
in a timely manner and in a

3037
01:39:11,168 --> 01:39:12,435
manner that they have become

3038
01:39:12,435 --> 01:39:16,350
used to and accustomed to over

3039
01:39:17,375 --> 01:39:20,945
the years. That being said, I

3040
01:39:20,945 --> 01:39:22,747
believe I heard from you in

3041
01:39:22,747 --> 01:39:25,650
response to a request to have a

3042
01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:28,500
rule development workshop that

3043
01:39:29,219 --> 01:39:31,422
on the new process, especially

3044
01:39:31,422 --> 01:39:32,824
these these 31 policies that we

3045
01:39:32,824 --> 01:39:35,930
kind of lumped into one agenda

3046
01:39:35,930 --> 01:39:36,427
item at the last meeting, that

3047
01:39:36,427 --> 01:39:39,290
in order to have a rule

3048
01:39:39,290 --> 01:39:41,429
development workshop on Neola

3049
01:39:41,466 --> 01:39:43,634
to address these concerns, we

3050
01:39:43,634 --> 01:39:45,136
would need to have approval

3051
01:39:45,136 --> 01:39:47,237
from chair Leonardi. Did I

3052
01:39:47,237 --> 01:39:49,237
understand that correctly?

3053
01:39:49,407 --> 01:39:51,542
>> No. We've already had a rule

3054
01:39:51,542 --> 01:39:53,942
development workshop, and the

3055
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:55,879
next step is the public hearing,

3056
01:39:55,879 --> 01:39:58,490
which will also allow

3057
01:39:58,490 --> 01:40:00,552
individuals to have make public

3058
01:40:00,552 --> 01:40:02,587
comment on the different rules.

3059
01:40:02,587 --> 01:40:03,754
>> If I MAY. And again, I don't

3060
01:40:03,754 --> 01:40:06,356
want to put words in people's

3061
01:40:06,356 --> 01:40:07,758
mouths. I believe it was s who

3062
01:40:07,758 --> 01:40:10,594
had made the request. Jackie

3063
01:40:10,594 --> 01:40:12,970
and my accurate with that.

3064
01:40:12,970 --> 01:40:13,631
>> I think Doctor Lynch Walsh

3065
01:40:13,631 --> 01:40:14,632
put in a formal request for a

3066
01:40:14,632 --> 01:40:16,340
rule development hearing. I

3067
01:40:16,340 --> 01:40:17,435
think we need to clarify what

3068
01:40:17,435 --> 01:40:19,738
we're talking about. Rule

3069
01:40:19,738 --> 01:40:22,138
development workshop you had.

3070
01:40:22,507 --> 01:40:24,709
It wasn't run in conformity

3071
01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:26,845
with how they have been run

3072
01:40:26,845 --> 01:40:29,245
previously. Secondly, if we're

3073
01:40:30,514 --> 01:40:31,949
talking about about a hearing, not clear what the hearing

3074
01:40:31,949 --> 01:40:33,752
is. I've got some other points

3075
01:40:33,752 --> 01:40:35,920
I'd like to reply to in a

3076
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:36,988
minute, but can you clarify

3077
01:40:36,988 --> 01:40:37,889
what this hearing is that

3078
01:40:37,889 --> 01:40:39,858
you're talking about?

3079
01:40:39,858 --> 01:40:42,858
>> Thank you. Okay, so Florida

3080
01:40:43,494 --> 01:40:45,664
Statute 120.54 is the rule

3081
01:40:45,664 --> 01:40:47,165
making statute, right? So it

3082
01:40:47,165 --> 01:40:49,901
dictates and provides how rules

3083
01:40:49,901 --> 01:40:51,736
are created. Now you have to

3084
01:40:51,736 --> 01:40:53,505
remember that we are considered

3085
01:40:53,505 --> 01:40:55,374
an educational unit per

3086
01:40:55,374 --> 01:40:57,142
definition in that statute. So

3087
01:40:57,142 --> 01:40:59,110
there's certain things in that

3088
01:40:59,110 --> 01:41:01,479
statute that is not applicable

3089
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:03,281
to a school district. It's run

3090
01:41:03,281 --> 01:41:05,216
by one of them, for example,

3091
01:41:05,216 --> 01:41:07,216
Florida Statute 120.81, which

3092
01:41:07,219 --> 01:41:10,880
talks about the legal notices.

3093
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,488
Now rule development. The

3094
01:41:13,291 --> 01:41:16,291
statute says unless there's a

3095
01:41:16,929 --> 01:41:18,563
cost, the district MAY have a.

3096
01:41:18,563 --> 01:41:19,831
Even if there is a cost, the

3097
01:41:19,831 --> 01:41:22,000
district MAY have what they

3098
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:23,769
call a rule development

3099
01:41:23,769 --> 01:41:25,970
workshop. What does that mean?

3100
01:41:25,970 --> 01:41:27,773
That is an opportunity for the

3101
01:41:27,773 --> 01:41:28,907
board to have a discussion of a

3102
01:41:28,907 --> 01:41:30,976
proposed rule. We'll call that

3103
01:41:30,976 --> 01:41:32,778
a policy. They're

3104
01:41:32,778 --> 01:41:34,613
interchangeable. Those words.

3105
01:41:34,613 --> 01:41:36,480
And the public has an

3106
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:37,149
opportunity to make a comment.

3107
01:41:37,149 --> 01:41:38,484
That's that's what a rule.

3108
01:41:38,484 --> 01:41:42,840
That's in essence, what a rule

3109
01:41:42,254 --> 01:41:44,654
development workshop is because

3110
01:41:44,723 --> 01:41:47,559
of the fact in most districts

3111
01:41:47,559 --> 01:41:48,727
do this normally have a rule

3112
01:41:48,727 --> 01:41:50,727
development workshop without

3113
01:41:51,497 --> 01:41:53,365
the public even asking for it.

3114
01:41:53,365 --> 01:41:55,434
The statute doesn't require it.

3115
01:41:55,434 --> 01:41:56,802
If the public asks for it,

3116
01:41:56,802 --> 01:41:58,300
you're supposed to have it

3117
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:00,906
unless there's a good reason as

3118
01:42:00,906 --> 01:42:03,800
to why it's not necessary. In

3119
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:04,810
our case, we move forward and

3120
01:42:04,810 --> 01:42:07,346
we will continue to move

3121
01:42:07,346 --> 01:42:08,580
forward with rule development

3122
01:42:08,580 --> 01:42:10,616
workshops so that the public

3123
01:42:10,616 --> 01:42:11,850
has an opportunity to make a

3124
01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:13,586
comment on the rules, and the

3125
01:42:13,586 --> 01:42:15,287
board has an opportunity to

3126
01:42:15,287 --> 01:42:17,489
have discussion on the rule

3127
01:42:17,489 --> 01:42:19,191
before we go to the next step,

3128
01:42:19,191 --> 01:42:21,694
which is the public hearing.

3129
01:42:21,694 --> 01:42:23,896
The public hearing is when the

3130
01:42:23,896 --> 01:42:25,640
policies are then also brought

3131
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:26,766
forward. The public then has

3132
01:42:26,766 --> 01:42:28,166
the opportunity to make

3133
01:42:28,166 --> 01:42:30,350
comments, and the board will

3134
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:33,380
vote on whether or not to adopt

3135
01:42:33,380 --> 01:42:36,380
the rule as revised. That's

3136
01:42:36,508 --> 01:42:37,809
what the public hearing is.

3137
01:42:37,809 --> 01:42:39,579
That's proper rule development.

3138
01:42:39,579 --> 01:42:40,812
>> I'm sorry. My friend to the

3139
01:42:40,812 --> 01:42:42,681
left here is whispering exactly

3140
01:42:42,681 --> 01:42:43,883
what was in my head. If I could

3141
01:42:43,883 --> 01:42:45,952
just ask, are you talking about

3142
01:42:45,952 --> 01:42:47,987
a school board meeting or are

3143
01:42:47,987 --> 01:42:48,754
you talking about a separate

3144
01:42:48,754 --> 01:42:50,754
hearing?

3145
01:42:50,923 --> 01:42:52,825
>> Okay. Good question. So a

3146
01:42:52,825 --> 01:42:54,427
lot of times it is a school

3147
01:42:54,427 --> 01:42:56,495
board meeting, but that portion

3148
01:42:56,495 --> 01:42:58,597
of the meeting is is considered

3149
01:42:58,597 --> 01:43:00,266
a public hearing. So normally

3150
01:43:00,266 --> 01:43:02,835
what will happen is that the

3151
01:43:02,835 --> 01:43:04,537
school board will recess the

3152
01:43:04,537 --> 01:43:06,406
regular meeting, go into the

3153
01:43:06,406 --> 01:43:07,874
public hearing, have the public

3154
01:43:07,874 --> 01:43:09,976
comment, and then go back to

3155
01:43:09,976 --> 01:43:12,111
the meeting. So that's normally

3156
01:43:12,111 --> 01:43:14,380
how it occurs. But it does

3157
01:43:14,380 --> 01:43:17,884
happen in most districts in a

3158
01:43:17,884 --> 01:43:19,884
meeting.

3159
01:43:21,154 --> 01:43:22,221
>> Was the ask for an

3160
01:43:22,221 --> 01:43:23,656
additional rule development

3161
01:43:23,656 --> 01:43:24,657
workshop, which I agree, MADAM

3162
01:43:24,657 --> 01:43:25,892
General Counsel. That's that

3163
01:43:25,892 --> 01:43:27,293
was the last go around. That

3164
01:43:27,293 --> 01:43:28,895
was what that qualified as.

3165
01:43:28,895 --> 01:43:31,895
>> That was a rule development.

3166
01:43:33,366 --> 01:43:35,535
>> So I what I'm wondering is.

3167
01:43:35,535 --> 01:43:37,636
I feel like a lot of members of

3168
01:43:37,636 --> 01:43:39,838
the public didn't really have a

3169
01:43:39,838 --> 01:43:42,800
good handle or understanding

3170
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,177
about what was going on prior

3171
01:43:44,177 --> 01:43:46,813
to the last workshop. Now that

3172
01:43:46,813 --> 01:43:47,948
we've had that workshop, things

3173
01:43:47,948 --> 01:43:50,315
have have come out, there's

3174
01:43:50,315 --> 01:43:51,718
been discussions, there's been

3175
01:43:51,718 --> 01:43:53,718
internet posts and

3176
01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:54,955
conversations about this. I

3177
01:43:54,955 --> 01:43:56,789
fielded phone calls, I fielded

3178
01:43:56,789 --> 01:43:57,824
text messages on this. I feel

3179
01:43:57,824 --> 01:43:58,925
like there's a better

3180
01:43:58,925 --> 01:44:00,930
understanding of what's

3181
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:01,995
happening in light of that. And

3182
01:44:01,995 --> 01:44:03,964
I'm going to ask I'm going to

3183
01:44:03,964 --> 01:44:06,499
ask is again, is there a

3184
01:44:06,499 --> 01:44:08,268
request for an additional rule

3185
01:44:08,268 --> 01:44:09,703
development workshop, or is it

3186
01:44:09,703 --> 01:44:11,505
just you want confirmation that

3187
01:44:11,505 --> 01:44:13,740
the public will be able to

3188
01:44:13,740 --> 01:44:15,509
participate in the hearing, aka

3189
01:44:15,509 --> 01:44:16,576
school board meeting, in which

3190
01:44:16,576 --> 01:44:18,345
these things with Neil are

3191
01:44:18,345 --> 01:44:19,646
formally voted on?

3192
01:44:19,646 --> 01:44:21,448
>>>> k kno whaha t the Thahankou

3193
01:44:21,448 --> 01:44:22,616
for t t queueioio I I kw whaha

3194
01:44:22,616 --> 01:44:24,918
ththe resnsnse will b b s so let's

3195
01:44:24,918 --> 01:44:27,754
not waste our time. But. But

3196
01:44:27,754 --> 01:44:30,560
really, I think it's clear that

3197
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,527
telling us that, well, a board,

3198
01:44:33,527 --> 01:44:35,228
a workshop was was held and it

3199
01:44:35,228 --> 01:44:37,464
was advertised. Nobody has said

3200
01:44:37,464 --> 01:44:39,666
it wasn't advertised properly.

3201
01:44:39,666 --> 01:44:40,800
It was advertised on an obscure

3202
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:41,834
website that the public hasn't

3203
01:44:41,834 --> 01:44:43,804
even been told. That's the

3204
01:44:43,804 --> 01:44:45,638
place you need to go to if you

3205
01:44:45,638 --> 01:44:46,839
want to see what we're actually

3206
01:44:46,839 --> 01:44:48,675
doing, as opposed to what we're

3207
01:44:48,675 --> 01:44:50,778
putting on our agenda and our

3208
01:44:50,778 --> 01:44:52,579
own board meetings website, to

3209
01:44:52,579 --> 01:44:54,140
say we advertised it in this

3210
01:44:54,140 --> 01:44:55,916
obscure place that none of you

3211
01:44:55,916 --> 01:44:57,150
look at, and half of you, even

3212
01:44:57,150 --> 01:44:59,853
when you try it, can't get on

3213
01:44:59,853 --> 01:45:02,890
it. But so we met, we met

3214
01:45:02,890 --> 01:45:04,900
statute that. But you know, and

3215
01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:06,159
we don't you actually said, MR.

3216
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:08,620
Bruno, we don't have to put it

3217
01:45:08,620 --> 01:45:09,496
on the website. Well, why

3218
01:45:09,496 --> 01:45:11,332
wouldn't you. And that's a

3219
01:45:11,332 --> 01:45:13,133
genuine question. Why on earth

3220
01:45:13,133 --> 01:45:14,768
would you. I take shorthand, we

3221
01:45:14,768 --> 01:45:17,360
don't have to put it on the

3222
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,306
website. Why on earth would you

3223
01:45:19,306 --> 01:45:20,708
not? It wasn't even on your own

3224
01:45:20,708 --> 01:45:22,876
agenda that that was a rule

3225
01:45:22,876 --> 01:45:24,311
making workshop. There wasn't a

3226
01:45:24,311 --> 01:45:26,790
covering document that even

3227
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:28,982
said what all these policies

3228
01:45:28,982 --> 01:45:31,117
were. There wasn't as, as Mary

3229
01:45:31,117 --> 01:45:33,287
said, any comparison of, right.

3230
01:45:33,287 --> 01:45:34,789
This proposed new policy

3231
01:45:34,789 --> 01:45:36,890
replaces that one. Not one of

3232
01:45:36,890 --> 01:45:38,392
you got out policy 1020 during

3233
01:45:38,392 --> 01:45:40,227
the course of that workshop and

3234
01:45:40,227 --> 01:45:41,262
did a side by side. We work

3235
01:45:41,262 --> 01:45:43,130
really professionally in

3236
01:45:43,130 --> 01:45:45,530
committee. When we're looking

3237
01:45:46,266 --> 01:45:47,801
at policies, we do side by side

3238
01:45:47,801 --> 01:45:49,269
matrices, and we do read lines.

3239
01:45:49,269 --> 01:45:50,938
You have done read lines before,

3240
01:45:50,938 --> 01:45:52,139
not so much the matrices, even

3241
01:45:52,139 --> 01:45:54,141
though I know board members

3242
01:45:54,141 --> 01:45:57,780
have asked for for a more

3243
01:45:57,780 --> 01:45:58,846
visually friendly format. There

3244
01:45:58,846 --> 01:46:01,480
was no red lines. It was so.

3245
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:02,783
And I think the crux of this is

3246
01:46:02,783 --> 01:46:04,952
that this is a policy

3247
01:46:04,952 --> 01:46:06,787
conversion versus a review. And

3248
01:46:06,787 --> 01:46:08,890
I'm not sure, actually, that

3249
01:46:08,890 --> 01:46:09,624
all board members even knew

3250
01:46:09,624 --> 01:46:12,527
that was the case when they

3251
01:46:12,527 --> 01:46:13,960
voted on it. If it's a straight

3252
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:15,290
replacement, there was no

3253
01:46:15,290 --> 01:46:16,997
comparison. There are other

3254
01:46:16,997 --> 01:46:18,365
policies. Take ai, for example,

3255
01:46:18,365 --> 01:46:20,340
that are just they're gagging

3256
01:46:20,340 --> 01:46:21,602
to be passed because you've got

3257
01:46:21,602 --> 01:46:23,304
public outcry is going to creep

3258
01:46:23,304 --> 01:46:25,172
up on you and overwhelm you.

3259
01:46:25,172 --> 01:46:27,308
Our cameras in classrooms

3260
01:46:27,308 --> 01:46:29,109
policy for Esq that actually I

3261
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:31,245
and others at ease advisory

3262
01:46:31,245 --> 01:46:32,313
helped very helpfully and

3263
01:46:32,313 --> 01:46:33,515
collaboratively to craft with

3264
01:46:33,515 --> 01:46:35,315
you. GOD knows what's now going

3265
01:46:35,315 --> 01:46:36,784
to happen with that. I'm not

3266
01:46:36,784 --> 01:46:38,453
clear whether that calling that

3267
01:46:38,453 --> 01:46:40,120
a rule development workshop,

3268
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,389
but not even putting it on your

3269
01:46:42,389 --> 01:46:43,858
own agenda that it was that is

3270
01:46:43,858 --> 01:46:45,659
actually reprehensible. That's

3271
01:46:45,659 --> 01:46:47,950
not just, well, we, we, we

3272
01:46:47,950 --> 01:46:49,495
advertised it somewhere else

3273
01:46:50,331 --> 01:46:51,732
quietly. So we meet statute to

3274
01:46:51,732 --> 01:46:52,633
say that there is no

3275
01:46:52,633 --> 01:46:54,269
elimination of public comment.

3276
01:46:54,269 --> 01:46:56,170
You're right. There's no

3277
01:46:56,170 --> 01:46:57,539
elimination. But we have 12

3278
01:46:57,539 --> 01:46:59,700
minutes as members of the

3279
01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:01,476
public spread across a whole

3280
01:47:01,476 --> 01:47:03,277
board meeting. So to say that

3281
01:47:03,277 --> 01:47:04,345
you're just restructuring it

3282
01:47:04,345 --> 01:47:06,548
actually isn't correct. You

3283
01:47:06,548 --> 01:47:08,682
said you are not losing public

3284
01:47:08,682 --> 01:47:09,750
comment. It's just being

3285
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:10,517
restructured. There are two

3286
01:47:10,517 --> 01:47:12,286
different things. There's

3287
01:47:12,286 --> 01:47:13,721
public speaking, which is five

3288
01:47:13,721 --> 01:47:15,289
speakers in the morning, five

3289
01:47:15,289 --> 01:47:17,358
speakers in the afternoon. And

3290
01:47:17,358 --> 01:47:19,260
then there is public comment,

3291
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:20,561
which is where everybody had 12

3292
01:47:20,561 --> 01:47:22,290
minutes. You've now proposed

3293
01:47:22,290 --> 01:47:23,597
reducing that to just three,

3294
01:47:23,597 --> 01:47:24,766
that people had to just gobble

3295
01:47:24,766 --> 01:47:26,468
it at the beginning of the

3296
01:47:26,468 --> 01:47:27,569
board meeting. There would only

3297
01:47:27,569 --> 01:47:28,870
be limited space for that,

3298
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:30,471
which would be one hour. So

3299
01:47:30,471 --> 01:47:31,606
let's face it, if PRESIDENT

3300
01:47:31,606 --> 01:47:32,607
Fusco brings a bunch of her

3301
01:47:32,607 --> 01:47:35,700
teachers, nobody else is

3302
01:47:35,677 --> 01:47:37,846
getting a look in to say it's

3303
01:47:37,846 --> 01:47:40,748
just being restructured just is

3304
01:47:40,748 --> 01:47:42,550
not an accurate reflection.

3305
01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:44,190
It's not clear when this public

3306
01:47:44,190 --> 01:47:45,954
hearing would be and when, but

3307
01:47:45,954 --> 01:47:47,550
I'm glad to see it's now ceded

3308
01:47:47,550 --> 01:47:48,356
that it does need to be

3309
01:47:48,356 --> 01:47:51,356
separately, at least tagged as

3310
01:47:51,426 --> 01:47:52,627
a public hearing, but I hope it

3311
01:47:52,627 --> 01:47:55,270
will be advertised accordingly

3312
01:47:55,129 --> 01:47:57,999
on board websites and its own

3313
01:47:57,999 --> 01:48:00,535
agenda. And I think crucially,

3314
01:48:00,535 --> 01:48:02,304
now we're in the summer when

3315
01:48:02,304 --> 01:48:03,572
honestly, I'm afraid to leave

3316
01:48:03,572 --> 01:48:04,872
Broward because I fear what's

3317
01:48:04,872 --> 01:48:07,410
going to happen when we're not

3318
01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:08,810
here to voice about things.

3319
01:48:08,810 --> 01:48:10,579
Because this was sneaked out,

3320
01:48:10,579 --> 01:48:12,748
things are being sneaked out at

3321
01:48:12,748 --> 01:48:14,917
times of year and in ways that

3322
01:48:14,917 --> 01:48:16,351
that are not collaborative.

3323
01:48:16,351 --> 01:48:17,819
Anybody could have come to the

3324
01:48:17,819 --> 01:48:18,887
advisories beforehand and said,

3325
01:48:18,887 --> 01:48:20,589
hey, listen, we're looking at

3326
01:48:20,589 --> 01:48:21,790
this new platform. What do you

3327
01:48:21,790 --> 01:48:22,891
think? Or does it matter what

3328
01:48:22,891 --> 01:48:24,626
you think? But here's what

3329
01:48:24,626 --> 01:48:25,661
we're doing anyway. Or here's a

3330
01:48:25,661 --> 01:48:26,862
demonstration of what the

3331
01:48:26,862 --> 01:48:28,597
platform will be. I'm sure the

3332
01:48:28,597 --> 01:48:30,766
platform looks great, but the

3333
01:48:30,766 --> 01:48:32,367
process was not described or

3334
01:48:32,367 --> 01:48:35,103
considered at a board meeting

3335
01:48:35,103 --> 01:48:36,505
for $138,000 a year. When we

3336
01:48:36,505 --> 01:48:38,340
can't get a pre-k evaluation

3337
01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:39,708
for a kid with a disability to

3338
01:48:39,708 --> 01:48:41,243
start school in AUGUST, and

3339
01:48:41,243 --> 01:48:42,678
she's got to wait beyond

3340
01:48:42,678 --> 01:48:45,780
Christmas. I think priorities

3341
01:48:45,147 --> 01:48:46,649
are really poor. And the optics

3342
01:48:46,649 --> 01:48:49,830
of this and what the result

3343
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:50,285
will be is incredibly bad. At a

3344
01:48:50,285 --> 01:48:51,620
time when on one hand you're

3345
01:48:51,620 --> 01:48:53,880
saying, hey, let's look at

3346
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:54,189
customer service, and on the

3347
01:48:54,189 --> 01:48:55,991
other you're saying, we don't

3348
01:48:55,991 --> 01:48:58,161
want to hear from our customers

3349
01:48:58,161 --> 01:49:00,161
much.

3350
01:49:00,161 --> 01:49:01,229
>> So thank you so much for the

3351
01:49:01,229 --> 01:49:03,866
comment. I appreciate that. And

3352
01:49:03,866 --> 01:49:06,350
again, we do listen to what

3353
01:49:06,350 --> 01:49:07,536
your concerns are and try to

3354
01:49:07,536 --> 01:49:09,672
address them the best that we

3355
01:49:09,672 --> 01:49:11,807
can. First and foremost, I will

3356
01:49:11,807 --> 01:49:14,420
say this, once the neola

3357
01:49:14,420 --> 01:49:16,145
process is completed, you're

3358
01:49:16,145 --> 01:49:17,947
going to like the end result. I

3359
01:49:17,947 --> 01:49:20,490
have done this conversion

3360
01:49:20,490 --> 01:49:22,184
before and I know what it looks

3361
01:49:22,184 --> 01:49:24,387
like, and the public likes it

3362
01:49:24,387 --> 01:49:26,922
because they can find the

3363
01:49:26,922 --> 01:49:28,758
policies very easily. It's much

3364
01:49:28,758 --> 01:49:30,192
easier to understand. The

3365
01:49:30,192 --> 01:49:32,795
second thing I want you to know

3366
01:49:32,795 --> 01:49:35,598
is that these policies, 90% of

3367
01:49:35,598 --> 01:49:36,999
the policies are based on law.

3368
01:49:36,999 --> 01:49:39,135
That's what policies are

3369
01:49:39,135 --> 01:49:41,570
supposed to be. The processes,

3370
01:49:41,570 --> 01:49:43,839
the operations, the protocols,

3371
01:49:43,839 --> 01:49:44,907
how you do something are not

3372
01:49:44,907 --> 01:49:46,709
policies. And that's part of

3373
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:48,511
the cleanup that we're doing. I

3374
01:49:48,511 --> 01:49:49,946
think a lot of times we're

3375
01:49:49,946 --> 01:49:52,346
concerned about how something

3376
01:49:52,481 --> 01:49:53,516
ends up happening versus the

3377
01:49:53,516 --> 01:49:54,984
direction that the governing

3378
01:49:54,984 --> 01:49:57,186
body is giving to make

3379
01:49:57,186 --> 01:49:58,988
something happen. We're working

3380
01:49:58,988 --> 01:50:00,990
on both of those things at the

3381
01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:03,260
same time, which is something

3382
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:04,794
that is very unique to Broward

3383
01:50:04,794 --> 01:50:06,528
that we were able to negotiate

3384
01:50:06,528 --> 01:50:09,798
with Neola. So that's the first

3385
01:50:09,798 --> 01:50:12,798
thing. Second, we're not paying

3386
01:50:13,369 --> 01:50:15,138
$138,000 per year. We're paying

3387
01:50:15,138 --> 01:50:17,138
138,000 for this conversion.

3388
01:50:17,306 --> 01:50:19,475
And it is a complete conversion

3389
01:50:19,475 --> 01:50:20,943
of the policies. The reason the

3390
01:50:20,943 --> 01:50:22,745
policies are not redlined is

3391
01:50:22,745 --> 01:50:25,145
because they're not old

3392
01:50:25,681 --> 01:50:26,783
policies. These are brand new

3393
01:50:26,783 --> 01:50:28,884
policies that are coming before

3394
01:50:28,884 --> 01:50:30,319
the board. When the when you

3395
01:50:30,319 --> 01:50:33,156
see the public hearing, you

3396
01:50:33,156 --> 01:50:34,590
will see the red lines that are

3397
01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:36,159
based on what the board's

3398
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:37,727
discussion was, including some

3399
01:50:37,727 --> 01:50:39,996
of the comments that were made

3400
01:50:39,996 --> 01:50:41,865
at the workshop, are included

3401
01:50:41,865 --> 01:50:43,967
in some of those red lines that

3402
01:50:43,967 --> 01:50:45,402
will be coming on the 23rd. So

3403
01:50:45,402 --> 01:50:46,603
you're never going to see red

3404
01:50:46,603 --> 01:50:47,904
lines at the onset, because

3405
01:50:47,904 --> 01:50:49,706
they're not all policies that

3406
01:50:49,706 --> 01:50:51,508
we're revising their new

3407
01:50:51,508 --> 01:50:52,942
policies. The other the other

3408
01:50:52,942 --> 01:50:56,512
thing that I think is really,

3409
01:50:56,512 --> 01:50:58,912
really important to understand

3410
01:50:59,482 --> 01:51:02,319
the law prescribes how certain

3411
01:51:02,319 --> 01:51:05,919
things are supposed to be done.

3412
01:51:06,623 --> 01:51:08,623
Florida statute 120.81 for

3413
01:51:09,826 --> 01:51:12,826
educational units says that we

3414
01:51:13,129 --> 01:51:14,263
publish on the county's website.

3415
01:51:14,263 --> 01:51:15,765
And I understand what your

3416
01:51:15,765 --> 01:51:17,868
point is. Wait. Hold on, hold

3417
01:51:17,868 --> 01:51:19,302
on, hold on. I understand your

3418
01:51:19,302 --> 01:51:21,270
point. Your point is that you

3419
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:23,907
want to see it on our website

3420
01:51:23,907 --> 01:51:25,776
to to be legally compliant. We

3421
01:51:25,776 --> 01:51:27,177
legally published it on that.

3422
01:51:27,177 --> 01:51:29,179
And I will tell you on our

3423
01:51:29,179 --> 01:51:30,279
website, if you go to the front

3424
01:51:30,279 --> 01:51:32,115
page, anybody who wants to know

3425
01:51:32,115 --> 01:51:34,170
and follow this, you can go to

3426
01:51:34,170 --> 01:51:35,218
the front page on our website,

3427
01:51:35,218 --> 01:51:37,200
scroll all the way down and it

3428
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:38,221
says Legal Notices. You click

3429
01:51:38,221 --> 01:51:41,191
that and it takes you to the

3430
01:51:41,191 --> 01:51:42,392
county's website. So I, I want

3431
01:51:42,392 --> 01:51:44,194
to make sure that it's on the

3432
01:51:44,194 --> 01:51:45,295
record because the district is

3433
01:51:45,295 --> 01:51:47,998
legally compliant. Hold on one

3434
01:51:47,998 --> 01:51:51,000
second. Hold on, hold on, hold

3435
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,404
on, please. Number two, when it

3436
01:51:53,404 --> 01:51:55,906
is advertised because the the

3437
01:51:55,906 --> 01:51:58,175
law requires us to do this, it

3438
01:51:58,175 --> 01:51:59,877
is advertised 28 days prior to

3439
01:51:59,877 --> 01:52:00,944
the adoption. That includes the

3440
01:52:00,944 --> 01:52:02,179
workshop that includes what I

3441
01:52:02,179 --> 01:52:04,882
call the public hearing, which

3442
01:52:04,882 --> 01:52:06,850
is what the statute refers to.

3443
01:52:06,850 --> 01:52:08,885
Both dates were on. There are

3444
01:52:08,885 --> 01:52:10,654
two parts over there. They have

3445
01:52:10,654 --> 01:52:13,157
both dates for the legal

3446
01:52:13,157 --> 01:52:15,159
notices. So it was already said

3447
01:52:15,159 --> 01:52:17,327
way back at the end of MAY that

3448
01:52:17,327 --> 01:52:19,290
on JUNE 23rd there's going to

3449
01:52:19,290 --> 01:52:20,300
be a public hearing on these

3450
01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:21,332
policies. So we're not sneaking

3451
01:52:21,332 --> 01:52:23,234
we're not trying to be

3452
01:52:23,234 --> 01:52:26,234
deceitful. It's all there for

3453
01:52:27,470 --> 01:52:29,639
the public to consume. Hold on.

3454
01:52:29,639 --> 01:52:31,750
Let me let me finish. The

3455
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:32,842
second thing, to go directly to

3456
01:52:32,842 --> 01:52:36,480
your point in terms of what is

3457
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:37,982
advertised on our website,

3458
01:52:37,982 --> 01:52:40,982
normally what is advertised is

3459
01:52:41,484 --> 01:52:42,953
a workshop. And within that

3460
01:52:42,953 --> 01:52:44,955
workshop there are multiple

3461
01:52:44,955 --> 01:52:47,691
things. And one of those things

3462
01:52:47,691 --> 01:52:49,493
could be a review of policy.

3463
01:52:49,493 --> 01:52:51,595
Now, because we got feedback

3464
01:52:51,595 --> 01:52:52,997
from the public and because of

3465
01:52:52,997 --> 01:52:54,832
the fact that we're going

3466
01:52:54,832 --> 01:52:56,667
through a full policy

3467
01:52:56,667 --> 01:52:58,436
conversion, we went ahead and

3468
01:52:58,436 --> 01:52:59,803
said, okay, we're going to

3469
01:52:59,803 --> 01:53:01,706
advertise this. We're going to

3470
01:53:01,706 --> 01:53:04,909
make sure it's clear that this

3471
01:53:04,909 --> 01:53:06,410
is a rule development workshop

3472
01:53:06,410 --> 01:53:08,120
from now on. That's what we're

3473
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:09,213
going to do to make sure that

3474
01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:11,140
the public understands. But I

3475
01:53:11,140 --> 01:53:13,683
will also tell you that there's

3476
01:53:13,683 --> 01:53:15,653
been discussions at the dais in

3477
01:53:15,653 --> 01:53:17,521
terms of board. Are we going to

3478
01:53:17,521 --> 01:53:19,357
have one workshop a month that

3479
01:53:19,357 --> 01:53:20,858
is specifically for policies?

3480
01:53:20,858 --> 01:53:22,693
Yes, we're going to do that.

3481
01:53:22,693 --> 01:53:23,995
And the reason that 1020 came

3482
01:53:23,995 --> 01:53:25,496
is because there was

3483
01:53:25,496 --> 01:53:26,898
instructions. This is not a

3484
01:53:26,898 --> 01:53:28,733
surprise if you're following

3485
01:53:28,733 --> 01:53:31,133
the meetings. This is

3486
01:53:31,235 --> 01:53:32,637
discussion with the board. 1020

3487
01:53:32,637 --> 01:53:34,380
Dupuy Bruno, please go and

3488
01:53:34,380 --> 01:53:35,173
review that and come back with

3489
01:53:35,173 --> 01:53:37,675
some policies for us to

3490
01:53:37,675 --> 01:53:39,910
consider. So I understand the

3491
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:41,346
comments and the frustration.

3492
01:53:41,346 --> 01:53:43,800
We're going to make sure that

3493
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:44,515
it is as transparent because

3494
01:53:44,515 --> 01:53:47,151
there's nothing that we want to

3495
01:53:47,151 --> 01:53:49,220
do to to be nontransparent. We

3496
01:53:49,220 --> 01:53:51,389
want the public to participate,

3497
01:53:51,389 --> 01:53:53,291
to have a voice. And you can

3498
01:53:53,291 --> 01:53:54,959
also send written requests. We

3499
01:53:54,959 --> 01:53:56,527
will make sure that it's

3500
01:53:56,527 --> 01:53:57,761
highlighted. So, you know, this

3501
01:53:57,761 --> 01:53:59,998
is a rule development, even

3502
01:53:59,998 --> 01:54:01,299
though it's not required by law.

3503
01:54:01,299 --> 01:54:03,670
>> Thank you. And my comments

3504
01:54:03,670 --> 01:54:05,200
were to the board and I would

3505
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:06,871
like to hear from the board as

3506
01:54:06,871 --> 01:54:08,673
well saying if you're following

3507
01:54:08,673 --> 01:54:10,342
meetings, I feel might come

3508
01:54:10,342 --> 01:54:11,876
across as well in that let's

3509
01:54:11,876 --> 01:54:15,790
put that in the column of like

3510
01:54:15,790 --> 01:54:16,948
not feeling too public friendly.

3511
01:54:16,948 --> 01:54:18,820
Those of us at this table are

3512
01:54:18,820 --> 01:54:19,483
probably among the people who

3513
01:54:19,483 --> 01:54:21,653
follow meetings as closely as,

3514
01:54:21,653 --> 01:54:23,880
as, as anybody is going to. And

3515
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:24,556
sometimes even we can MISS

3516
01:54:24,556 --> 01:54:25,957
Things because do you know what?

3517
01:54:25,957 --> 01:54:27,558
We have full time jobs. I'm

3518
01:54:27,558 --> 01:54:28,860
doing mine at three, four, five

3519
01:54:28,860 --> 01:54:31,362
in the morning. I'm afraid to

3520
01:54:31,362 --> 01:54:32,764
even go on vacation because all

3521
01:54:32,764 --> 01:54:34,933
these things that are happening,

3522
01:54:34,933 --> 01:54:37,435
and I'm afraid that what you

3523
01:54:37,435 --> 01:54:39,270
MAY not be aware of, MR. Bruno,

3524
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:41,500
is that the manner in which

3525
01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:43,175
things are done sometimes comes

3526
01:54:43,175 --> 01:54:45,143
from staff. Who are the staff

3527
01:54:45,143 --> 01:54:46,911
that then actually laugh when

3528
01:54:46,911 --> 01:54:48,279
we become distressed about it?

3529
01:54:48,279 --> 01:54:49,748
It's just happened again right

3530
01:54:49,748 --> 01:54:52,217
now in the last three minutes.

3531
01:54:52,217 --> 01:54:54,190
So please understand that our

3532
01:54:54,190 --> 01:54:56,220
frustration, nobody has said

3533
01:54:56,220 --> 01:54:57,989
you did not advertise it in

3534
01:54:57,989 --> 01:54:59,758
accordance with statute that

3535
01:54:59,758 --> 01:55:01,927
doesn't even need discussing

3536
01:55:01,927 --> 01:55:04,960
and taking up time. We haven't

3537
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:05,296
said that. But why on earth

3538
01:55:05,296 --> 01:55:07,666
would you not put it on your

3539
01:55:07,666 --> 01:55:08,867
own websites and your own

3540
01:55:08,867 --> 01:55:10,936
agenda? And I think it would be

3541
01:55:10,936 --> 01:55:12,671
nice to say, you know what? You

3542
01:55:12,671 --> 01:55:14,172
folks are right to be agitated

3543
01:55:14,172 --> 01:55:15,974
about this. You're right. That

3544
01:55:15,974 --> 01:55:17,776
wasn't okay. And we need to be

3545
01:55:17,776 --> 01:55:19,979
more transparent. We can't be

3546
01:55:19,979 --> 01:55:21,346
saying we're transparent and

3547
01:55:21,346 --> 01:55:23,746
being transparent just by

3548
01:55:26,385 --> 01:55:28,420
saying it. We have to do it to.

3549
01:55:28,420 --> 01:55:30,388
>> But I, I just want to make

3550
01:55:30,388 --> 01:55:32,570
sure it's clear. When the

3551
01:55:32,570 --> 01:55:33,959
public advised us that there

3552
01:55:33,959 --> 01:55:36,494
was a concern, we immediately

3553
01:55:36,494 --> 01:55:38,397
added rule development to the

3554
01:55:38,397 --> 01:55:39,731
website. It's there, and we

3555
01:55:39,731 --> 01:55:41,165
added it to the agenda. And I

3556
01:55:41,165 --> 01:55:41,934
understand what you're saying.

3557
01:55:41,934 --> 01:55:43,101
>> Yes.

3558
01:55:43,101 --> 01:55:44,970
>> Because we heard from the

3559
01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:46,572
public and we took action. And

3560
01:55:46,572 --> 01:55:49,909
the other thing I just wanted

3561
01:55:49,909 --> 01:55:51,977
to make sure also with regards

3562
01:55:51,977 --> 01:55:53,846
to public comment, because

3563
01:55:53,846 --> 01:55:55,214
there was a question about 60

3564
01:55:55,214 --> 01:55:56,448
minutes and that's it. I want

3565
01:55:56,448 --> 01:55:58,820
you to know that the board, in

3566
01:55:58,820 --> 01:55:59,484
their discussions, gave

3567
01:55:59,484 --> 01:56:01,720
directive that the chair can

3568
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:03,489
extend public comment if it

3569
01:56:03,489 --> 01:56:05,123
requires more than 60 minutes,

3570
01:56:05,123 --> 01:56:06,692
more than an hour. So that's

3571
01:56:06,692 --> 01:56:07,526
also in the policy.

3572
01:56:07,526 --> 01:56:08,961
>> I think.

3573
01:56:08,961 --> 01:56:09,595
>> Part of it concerns me.

3574
01:56:09,595 --> 01:56:11,430
Right.

3575
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:13,199
>> I specifically asked when I

3576
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:16,680
could come now, could not come.

3577
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,203
Last week, I asked a board

3578
01:56:18,203 --> 01:56:20,720
member when and I'm not going

3579
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:21,540
to say who when this would be

3580
01:56:21,540 --> 01:56:23,676
coming forward for a vote so

3581
01:56:23,676 --> 01:56:25,811
that people could speak to the

3582
01:56:25,811 --> 01:56:27,245
policy itself. My understanding

3583
01:56:27,245 --> 01:56:29,115
was that a certain amount of

3584
01:56:29,115 --> 01:56:30,883
time was required between the

3585
01:56:30,883 --> 01:56:32,618
rule making workshop and the

3586
01:56:32,618 --> 01:56:34,286
actual public hearing. I guess

3587
01:56:34,286 --> 01:56:35,487
I was told the wrong time

3588
01:56:35,487 --> 01:56:38,570
because I did not understand

3589
01:56:38,570 --> 01:56:40,225
that to be next week, when a

3590
01:56:40,225 --> 01:56:42,280
good number of people in the

3591
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,897
public will be out of this

3592
01:56:44,897 --> 01:56:47,834
county. And so you're actually

3593
01:56:47,834 --> 01:56:49,602
doing this, taking away their

3594
01:56:49,602 --> 01:56:51,704
right to speak. And just just

3595
01:56:51,704 --> 01:56:53,272
so you I know, I, you know, I,

3596
01:56:53,272 --> 01:56:55,340
and I know you're just doing

3597
01:56:55,340 --> 01:56:56,542
your job here, but let me just

3598
01:56:56,542 --> 01:56:58,978
explain that at one time, there

3599
01:56:58,978 --> 01:57:00,346
was no limit on how often a

3600
01:57:00,346 --> 01:57:01,948
person from the public could

3601
01:57:01,948 --> 01:57:04,417
address an issue. It was three

3602
01:57:04,417 --> 01:57:06,819
minutes per item, but there was

3603
01:57:06,819 --> 01:57:08,687
not a then it went to 15 and

3604
01:57:08,687 --> 01:57:10,890
then it went to 12. And now in

3605
01:57:10,890 --> 01:57:13,890
essence, you're taking it to

3606
01:57:14,590 --> 01:57:15,795
three. And I think if you're

3607
01:57:15,795 --> 01:57:17,129
going to do that, it would have

3608
01:57:17,129 --> 01:57:20,165
been good to loop it through

3609
01:57:20,165 --> 01:57:22,669
the advisories. Or as MISS

3610
01:57:22,669 --> 01:57:24,170
Thompson pointed out, loop it

3611
01:57:24,170 --> 01:57:26,306
through the sec's, loop it

3612
01:57:26,306 --> 01:57:28,107
through your schools, do

3613
01:57:28,107 --> 01:57:29,642
something. But you all are

3614
01:57:29,642 --> 01:57:32,110
literally doing this at a time

3615
01:57:32,110 --> 01:57:33,846
when you know people are out of

3616
01:57:33,846 --> 01:57:35,682
town. I think that sends a

3617
01:57:35,682 --> 01:57:38,585
terrible message. And I don't

3618
01:57:38,585 --> 01:57:39,586
know that. I just I just think

3619
01:57:39,586 --> 01:57:41,788
what you're doing with the

3620
01:57:41,788 --> 01:57:42,888
policies, the organizational

3621
01:57:42,888 --> 01:57:45,392
part that you're doing with

3622
01:57:45,392 --> 01:57:46,459
them, that's great. You're

3623
01:57:46,459 --> 01:57:48,295
going to make sure that they're

3624
01:57:48,295 --> 01:57:50,797
legally compliant. I all of

3625
01:57:50,797 --> 01:57:52,599
that. Okay. But how you do,

3626
01:57:52,599 --> 01:57:53,399
you're picking one of the most

3627
01:57:53,399 --> 01:57:55,101
important, which is the right

3628
01:57:55,101 --> 01:57:57,237
of the public to address the

3629
01:57:57,237 --> 01:57:58,271
board themselves in session.

3630
01:57:58,271 --> 01:58:01,271
And that's the one you're

3631
01:58:01,341 --> 01:58:04,477
choosing to do when the public

3632
01:58:04,477 --> 01:58:06,130
MAY not be around. And really,

3633
01:58:06,130 --> 01:58:07,814
I try to follow this stuff. I

3634
01:58:07,814 --> 01:58:08,949
did ask because I want I

3635
01:58:08,949 --> 01:58:10,584
couldn't come to the last

3636
01:58:10,584 --> 01:58:13,530
meeting. I wanted to be aware.

3637
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:16,220
Obviously, I'm one person that

3638
01:58:16,220 --> 01:58:17,230
doesn't matter, but I just I

3639
01:58:17,230 --> 01:58:19,525
just think this is being

3640
01:58:19,525 --> 01:58:21,940
handled very poorly as far as

3641
01:58:21,940 --> 01:58:22,496
taking a policy like 1020,

3642
01:58:22,496 --> 01:58:24,998
which was not even advertised

3643
01:58:24,998 --> 01:58:26,333
as 1020 last week and doing it.

3644
01:58:26,333 --> 01:58:27,534
So thank you. Thank you for

3645
01:58:27,534 --> 01:58:28,435
your explanation. I know we're

3646
01:58:28,435 --> 01:58:29,536
belaboring this and we're

3647
01:58:29,536 --> 01:58:31,438
getting away from some other

3648
01:58:31,438 --> 01:58:33,500
important issues, but I would

3649
01:58:33,500 --> 01:58:34,675
just request of board members

3650
01:58:34,675 --> 01:58:36,143
who are listening to this

3651
01:58:36,143 --> 01:58:37,578
conversation that you might

3652
01:58:37,578 --> 01:58:39,413
want to hold this off until

3653
01:58:39,413 --> 01:58:40,447
AUGUST, when you can actually

3654
01:58:40,447 --> 01:58:42,820
know that you're going to have

3655
01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:43,249
people back in town because

3656
01:58:43,249 --> 01:58:45,886
their kids are going to be in

3657
01:58:45,886 --> 01:58:47,886
school.

3658
01:58:48,210 --> 01:58:49,222
>> MAY I, MAY I ask a question?

3659
01:58:49,222 --> 01:58:51,658
>> MR. Cervera has the floor.

3660
01:58:51,658 --> 01:58:53,427
>> So very quick comment.

3661
01:58:53,427 --> 01:58:54,762
>> The answer to your question

3662
01:58:54,762 --> 01:58:56,963
about asking a question is yes.

3663
01:58:56,963 --> 01:58:58,532
But if I MAY Esq, I don't think

3664
01:58:58,532 --> 01:59:00,334
I got a response. Do you think

3665
01:59:00,334 --> 01:59:02,102
it would be beneficial to have

3666
01:59:02,102 --> 01:59:02,803
an additional rural development

3667
01:59:02,803 --> 01:59:03,803
workshop?

3668
01:59:03,803 --> 01:59:04,972
>> Yes I do.

3669
01:59:04,972 --> 01:59:06,806
>> Okay, Cynthia, go ahead.

3670
01:59:06,806 --> 01:59:07,808
>> So I think this is an

3671
01:59:07,808 --> 01:59:08,942
important conversation, and I

3672
01:59:08,942 --> 01:59:09,977
know that there are lots of

3673
01:59:09,977 --> 01:59:11,211
board members who have

3674
01:59:11,211 --> 01:59:12,813
questions about other topics,

3675
01:59:12,813 --> 01:59:13,914
and I don't want it to

3676
01:59:13,914 --> 01:59:15,783
monopolize the time. I think

3677
01:59:15,783 --> 01:59:17,518
that it's so valuable, the

3678
01:59:17,518 --> 01:59:19,918
information that you're giving

3679
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:21,855
MISS Dupuy, Bruno, and I think

3680
01:59:21,855 --> 01:59:23,691
potentially we can create a

3681
01:59:23,691 --> 01:59:25,793
landing page that has this

3682
01:59:25,793 --> 01:59:27,194
policy project on it, with

3683
01:59:27,194 --> 01:59:29,594
information about the process

3684
01:59:29,797 --> 01:59:31,231
and how we will move forward.

3685
01:59:31,231 --> 01:59:32,766
Additionally, maybe holding an

3686
01:59:32,766 --> 01:59:34,468
information session virtually

3687
01:59:34,468 --> 01:59:36,637
that the public can attend so

3688
01:59:36,637 --> 01:59:38,390
that we can you can provide the

3689
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:40,439
information, the public can

3690
01:59:42,777 --> 01:59:44,245
provide their concerns or

3691
01:59:44,245 --> 01:59:45,846
opinions to you, as well as

3692
01:59:45,846 --> 01:59:48,149
suggestions on what they would

3693
01:59:48,149 --> 01:59:51,749
like to see to maintain this

3694
01:59:51,786 --> 01:59:54,255
engagement so that we can move

3695
01:59:54,255 --> 01:59:57,255
along. But I agree with

3696
01:59:58,125 --> 02:00:00,525
everything that Maryann Jackie

3697
02:00:02,563 --> 02:00:04,563
said. Thank you.

3698
02:00:06,433 --> 02:00:08,269
>> MAY I chair? MISS Fertig, do

3699
02:00:08,269 --> 02:00:09,403
you agree that a rural

3700
02:00:09,403 --> 02:00:11,639
development workshop would be

3701
02:00:11,639 --> 02:00:12,973
beneficial to the public?

3702
02:00:12,973 --> 02:00:13,708
>> Yes.

3703
02:00:13,708 --> 02:00:14,420
>> Sorry.

3704
02:00:14,420 --> 02:00:15,476
>> Yes.

3705
02:00:15,476 --> 02:00:16,944
>> Parent community task force,

3706
02:00:16,944 --> 02:00:17,311
same question.

3707
02:00:17,311 --> 02:00:19,311
>> Yes.

3708
02:00:20,581 --> 02:00:21,648
>> Human relations.

3709
02:00:21,648 --> 02:00:22,783
>> Apologies, I missed the

3710
02:00:22,783 --> 02:00:23,918
question.

3711
02:00:23,918 --> 02:00:24,986
>> Do you believe that an

3712
02:00:24,986 --> 02:00:26,200
additional rule development

3713
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:26,788
workshop would be beneficial to

3714
02:00:26,788 --> 02:00:28,550
the public?

3715
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:30,550
>> Yes.

3716
02:00:30,992 --> 02:00:32,760
>> dac.

3717
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:33,828
>> Yes, but potentially in

3718
02:00:33,828 --> 02:00:35,629
AUGUST.

3719
02:00:35,629 --> 02:00:35,997
>> Technology.

3720
02:00:35,997 --> 02:00:37,980
>> Yes.

3721
02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:37,832
>> South area.

3722
02:00:37,832 --> 02:00:38,899
>> Yes.

3723
02:00:38,899 --> 02:00:40,100
>> Gifted.

3724
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:41,690
>> Absolutely. Yes.

3725
02:00:41,690 --> 02:00:42,804
>> MADAM General Counsel, how

3726
02:00:42,804 --> 02:00:43,938
does one go about obtaining an

3727
02:00:43,938 --> 02:00:45,500
additional rural development

3728
02:00:45,500 --> 02:00:46,841
workshop at this stage.

3729
02:00:46,841 --> 02:00:50,430
>> So you're going to have to

3730
02:00:50,430 --> 02:00:53,643
vote on that because right now,

3731
02:00:53,647 --> 02:00:55,549
pursuant to your policy 1000,

3732
02:00:55,549 --> 02:00:57,284
the chair makes the decision as

3733
02:00:57,284 --> 02:00:59,386
to whether or not a second

3734
02:00:59,386 --> 02:01:02,357
workshop is necessary. And the

3735
02:01:02,357 --> 02:01:03,725
chair has already a request

3736
02:01:03,725 --> 02:01:06,260
came in for that, and the chair

3737
02:01:06,260 --> 02:01:07,729
has already responded that a

3738
02:01:07,729 --> 02:01:08,797
second workshop is not

3739
02:01:08,797 --> 02:01:09,965
necessary, and that's per

3740
02:01:09,965 --> 02:01:11,299
policy that you have.

3741
02:01:11,299 --> 02:01:14,299
>> Does the chair have the

3742
02:01:14,869 --> 02:01:16,371
ability to order or require an

3743
02:01:16,371 --> 02:01:18,273
additional rural development

3744
02:01:18,273 --> 02:01:19,574
workshop without a formal vote

3745
02:01:19,574 --> 02:01:21,108
at her discretion?

3746
02:01:21,108 --> 02:01:21,342
>> Yes, that's what the policy

3747
02:01:21,342 --> 02:01:23,342
says.

3748
02:01:23,945 --> 02:01:24,946
>> Thank you, MADAM Chair.

3749
02:01:24,946 --> 02:01:26,448
Leonardi having heard what

3750
02:01:26,448 --> 02:01:27,648
you've heard from the public,

3751
02:01:27,648 --> 02:01:29,150
and I'm assuming you've gotten

3752
02:01:29,150 --> 02:01:32,150
the same emails that I'm

3753
02:01:32,187 --> 02:01:33,287
getting, will you commit to

3754
02:01:33,287 --> 02:01:34,288
grant the public what

3755
02:01:34,288 --> 02:01:35,790
essentially they're asking for

3756
02:01:35,790 --> 02:01:36,792
and allow an additional

3757
02:01:36,792 --> 02:01:37,925
workshop for rural development?

3758
02:01:37,925 --> 02:01:39,925
At this juncture?

3759
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:41,620
>> I'd like to put it up to the

3760
02:01:41,620 --> 02:01:42,930
board. I'm happy to move

3761
02:01:42,930 --> 02:01:43,131
forward with the will of the

3762
02:01:43,131 --> 02:01:44,232
board.

3763
02:01:44,232 --> 02:01:45,766
>> Chair. I believe it should

3764
02:01:45,766 --> 02:01:46,680
be a formal vote.

3765
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:47,936
>> Okay.

3766
02:01:47,936 --> 02:01:49,204
>> So if MR. Cervera would like

3767
02:01:49,204 --> 02:01:50,906
to bring that item, then we can

3768
02:01:50,906 --> 02:01:52,600
vote on it.

3769
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,308
>> All right.

3770
02:01:53,308 --> 02:01:54,476
>> So just just so we're clear,

3771
02:01:54,476 --> 02:01:56,378
you have the ability to do it

3772
02:01:56,378 --> 02:01:58,314
without a vote, but you are

3773
02:01:58,314 --> 02:01:58,680
asking to send it to a vote

3774
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:00,549
from the board.

3775
02:02:00,549 --> 02:02:02,417
>> I would like to take the I

3776
02:02:02,417 --> 02:02:03,518
would like to move forward with

3777
02:02:03,518 --> 02:02:04,553
the will of the board.

3778
02:02:04,553 --> 02:02:05,787
>> Understood. Thank you for

3779
02:02:05,787 --> 02:02:07,456
the clarification. Last agenda

3780
02:02:07,456 --> 02:02:11,656
item. Before I turn my mic off

3781
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:13,760
temporarily. MR. Superintendent,

3782
02:02:14,296 --> 02:02:16,465
we have heard a lot about this

3783
02:02:16,465 --> 02:02:19,735
opt out of technology over the

3784
02:02:19,735 --> 02:02:21,870
last couple of meetings. I

3785
02:02:21,870 --> 02:02:24,500
spoken to some parents who've

3786
02:02:24,500 --> 02:02:25,440
expressed a great amount of

3787
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,840
difficulty in actually being

3788
02:02:29,144 --> 02:02:30,645
able to do this. What I would

3789
02:02:30,645 --> 02:02:32,514
like to see, and you tell me if

3790
02:02:32,514 --> 02:02:34,483
this is possible, I would like

3791
02:02:34,483 --> 02:02:38,683
a portion of our web page, the

3792
02:02:39,154 --> 02:02:40,956
bcc web page to have a

3793
02:02:40,956 --> 02:02:43,492
hyperlink or some sort of

3794
02:02:43,492 --> 02:02:44,526
clickable item that gives a

3795
02:02:44,526 --> 02:02:46,195
detailed instruction, whether

3796
02:02:46,195 --> 02:02:47,363
it's you have to fill out a

3797
02:02:47,363 --> 02:02:49,230
form or whether you have to

3798
02:02:49,230 --> 02:02:50,633
call somebody. But detailed

3799
02:02:50,633 --> 02:02:53,168
instructions on how a parent

3800
02:02:53,168 --> 02:02:54,502
can opt out of technology

3801
02:02:54,502 --> 02:02:55,905
should they make the decision

3802
02:02:55,905 --> 02:02:57,805
that that's not what is in the

3803
02:02:57,805 --> 02:02:59,308
best interest of their child?

3804
02:02:59,308 --> 02:03:00,676
Can we get something on the

3805
02:03:00,676 --> 02:03:02,545
Broward County Public Schools

3806
02:03:02,545 --> 02:03:03,579
website? A very, very

3807
02:03:03,579 --> 02:03:05,380
comprehensive set of

3808
02:03:05,380 --> 02:03:06,982
instructions telling parents

3809
02:03:06,982 --> 02:03:10,453
how they can opt out should

3810
02:03:10,453 --> 02:03:11,521
they choose to do so?

3811
02:03:11,521 --> 02:03:12,755
>> Yes. That's possible.

3812
02:03:12,755 --> 02:03:14,523
>> Okay. How long will it take

3813
02:03:14,523 --> 02:03:16,525
you to get that up?

3814
02:03:16,525 --> 02:03:16,725
>> I have to check in with the

3815
02:03:16,725 --> 02:03:18,527
team.

3816
02:03:18,527 --> 02:03:19,528
>> Can we get that done before

3817
02:03:19,528 --> 02:03:21,630
school starts in AUGUST?

3818
02:03:21,630 --> 02:03:23,765
>> Yes, there's a yes we can,

3819
02:03:23,765 --> 02:03:25,635
but there's a lot of additional

3820
02:03:25,635 --> 02:03:27,769
things we need to do. Talk to

3821
02:03:27,769 --> 02:03:29,839
principals, talk to teachers,

3822
02:03:29,839 --> 02:03:31,107
figure out when we say opt out

3823
02:03:31,107 --> 02:03:32,375
of technology, if it's not to

3824
02:03:32,375 --> 02:03:33,576
the student's detriment that

3825
02:03:33,576 --> 02:03:35,678
they're that they're opting out

3826
02:03:35,678 --> 02:03:37,813
of, of said use of technology

3827
02:03:37,813 --> 02:03:39,982
for specific purposes, you know,

3828
02:03:39,982 --> 02:03:41,484
the, the spectrum of curriculum

3829
02:03:41,484 --> 02:03:43,553
and resources and instruction

3830
02:03:43,553 --> 02:03:44,987
is wide. So I don't want to,

3831
02:03:44,987 --> 02:03:45,755
you know, make it be a

3832
02:03:45,755 --> 02:03:47,990
detriment to a student's

3833
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:49,725
learning versus some of the

3834
02:03:49,725 --> 02:03:50,859
tools that MAY be actually

3835
02:03:50,859 --> 02:03:52,195
assisting them and helping them

3836
02:03:52,195 --> 02:03:55,130
excel in the classroom. And so

3837
02:03:55,130 --> 02:03:58,301
in, yeah, but what we could

3838
02:03:58,301 --> 02:04:00,269
take a look at that. It's a lot

3839
02:04:00,269 --> 02:04:03,720
more than just blanket opt in

3840
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:04,840
out of technology, though.

3841
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,309
>> Whatever the provision is,

3842
02:04:06,309 --> 02:04:08,177
whatever the protocol is, I

3843
02:04:08,177 --> 02:04:09,912
want a detailed portion of the

3844
02:04:09,912 --> 02:04:11,681
web page to be able to explain

3845
02:04:11,681 --> 02:04:12,782
this to parents. So there's not

3846
02:04:12,782 --> 02:04:14,551
a thousand questions that they

3847
02:04:14,551 --> 02:04:15,985
have to ask. Should they make

3848
02:04:15,985 --> 02:04:17,787
the decision that it's not in

3849
02:04:17,787 --> 02:04:20,787
the best interest of their

3850
02:04:21,758 --> 02:04:23,893
child to use technology? You

3851
02:04:23,893 --> 02:04:24,994
mentioned that we have to look

3852
02:04:24,994 --> 02:04:26,763
at whether or not it's

3853
02:04:26,763 --> 02:04:28,230
detrimental to the student.

3854
02:04:28,230 --> 02:04:29,332
Respectfully, sir, I want to

3855
02:04:29,332 --> 02:04:30,433
listen to what the parents

3856
02:04:30,433 --> 02:04:32,202
think about what's detrimental

3857
02:04:32,202 --> 02:04:33,302
to their child or not. And if

3858
02:04:33,302 --> 02:04:35,338
they make that decision as a

3859
02:04:35,338 --> 02:04:37,206
family or as a mom, as a dad

3860
02:04:37,206 --> 02:04:38,308
collectively, as an aunt, as an

3861
02:04:38,308 --> 02:04:40,209
uncle, whatever it is, they

3862
02:04:40,209 --> 02:04:41,310
need to be ready to have the

3863
02:04:41,310 --> 02:04:42,445
information, to do what they

3864
02:04:42,445 --> 02:04:44,347
need to do to make that

3865
02:04:44,347 --> 02:04:45,482
decision and make it a reality

3866
02:04:45,482 --> 02:04:47,384
with us without having to call

3867
02:04:47,384 --> 02:04:48,851
17 people. So Iould like toto

3868
02:04:48,851 --> 02:04:50,319
see thatt b befechooltartrt

3869
02:04:50,319 --> 02:04:51,687
inugust. Ain, aaortition off

3870
02:04:51,687 --> 02:04:53,123
the home page with

3871
02:04:53,123 --> 02:04:54,924
comprehensive instructions on

3872
02:04:54,924 --> 02:04:55,792
how a parent can opt out of

3873
02:04:55,792 --> 02:04:57,930
technology should they make

3874
02:04:57,930 --> 02:04:58,495
that decision. Thank you.

3875
02:04:58,495 --> 02:05:00,960
>> Is there a consensus from

3876
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:01,965
the board on that? I just want

3877
02:05:01,965 --> 02:05:02,799
to make sure before we move

3878
02:05:02,799 --> 02:05:04,799
forward.

3879
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:08,238
>> I, I mean, for me, I wanted

3880
02:05:08,238 --> 02:05:10,500
to talk about that with more

3881
02:05:10,500 --> 02:05:12,609
nuance and in depth in the next

3882
02:05:12,609 --> 02:05:15,450
workshop on ai, I think. So I

3883
02:05:15,450 --> 02:05:17,580
I'm not ready to say yes or no.

3884
02:05:17,580 --> 02:05:20,830
I mean, I, I think it deserves

3885
02:05:20,830 --> 02:05:21,218
a much longer, more detailed

3886
02:05:21,218 --> 02:05:23,860
discussion. And I know there's

3887
02:05:23,860 --> 02:05:24,321
a lot of, there's still a lot

3888
02:05:24,321 --> 02:05:26,123
of board members who would like

3889
02:05:26,123 --> 02:05:27,357
to speak. So it was something I

3890
02:05:27,357 --> 02:05:28,358
was planning on bringing up in

3891
02:05:28,358 --> 02:05:30,126
the next workshop.

3892
02:05:30,126 --> 02:05:32,290
>> Agreed. Because it is a

3893
02:05:32,290 --> 02:05:33,397
heavily nuanced. Agreed. I can

3894
02:05:33,397 --> 02:05:34,865
wait till the next workshop.

3895
02:05:34,865 --> 02:05:36,533
>> Any other board members who.

3896
02:05:36,533 --> 02:05:38,435
>> Wait wait wait wait a second.

3897
02:05:38,435 --> 02:05:39,436
Let me, let me let me do

3898
02:05:39,436 --> 02:05:40,637
something because I have a

3899
02:05:40,637 --> 02:05:42,472
feeling I know where this is

3900
02:05:42,472 --> 02:05:43,874
going. I want to follow up

3901
02:05:43,874 --> 02:05:44,842
Hepburn with detailed

3902
02:05:44,842 --> 02:05:46,109
instructions. You could address

3903
02:05:46,109 --> 02:05:48,545
it to me. The district six

3904
02:05:48,545 --> 02:05:51,115
board member from a to z. How?

3905
02:05:51,115 --> 02:05:51,749
One as a parent opts out of all

3906
02:05:51,749 --> 02:05:52,882
technology, should they make

3907
02:05:52,882 --> 02:05:54,718
that decision? You don't have

3908
02:05:54,718 --> 02:05:55,886
to put on the website for now.

3909
02:05:55,886 --> 02:05:57,855
We can discuss it whenever you

3910
02:05:57,855 --> 02:06:00,910
want, but I want a detailed

3911
02:06:00,910 --> 02:06:01,825
follow up in memorandum style

3912
02:06:01,825 --> 02:06:03,493
from a to z about how this is

3913
02:06:03,493 --> 02:06:04,695
done, and I'd like this done

3914
02:06:04,695 --> 02:06:07,631
within the next two weeks. Can

3915
02:06:07,631 --> 02:06:08,799
you commit to that, sir?

3916
02:06:08,799 --> 02:06:10,634
>> We'll provide a follow up.

3917
02:06:10,634 --> 02:06:10,834
I'll get with the team. Okay.

3918
02:06:10,834 --> 02:06:12,803
Yep.

3919
02:06:12,803 --> 02:06:14,803
>> MISS Bulman.

3920
02:06:16,574 --> 02:06:18,574
>> Thank you.

3921
02:06:20,244 --> 02:06:22,746
>> So do we. Are we offering

3922
02:06:22,746 --> 02:06:23,780
absolute full technology?

3923
02:06:23,780 --> 02:06:25,780
>> No, we're.

3924
02:06:25,983 --> 02:06:27,751
>> I guess my question is just,

3925
02:06:27,751 --> 02:06:30,200
you know, at what point are we

3926
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:31,789
making an undue burden? And I

3927
02:06:31,789 --> 02:06:33,223
think we again, I agree with

3928
02:06:33,223 --> 02:06:35,426
the chair that we need to have

3929
02:06:35,426 --> 02:06:38,426
a much longer discussion about

3930
02:06:39,629 --> 02:06:42,199
how this can work. Yeah,

3931
02:06:42,199 --> 02:06:43,934
reasonably. And I'm not against

3932
02:06:43,934 --> 02:06:47,270
it. I just think that we need

3933
02:06:47,270 --> 02:06:49,707
to be talking about that before.

3934
02:06:49,707 --> 02:06:51,108
Before Doctor Hepburn has to

3935
02:06:51,108 --> 02:06:52,709
create something that doesn't

3936
02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:55,146
exist right now. And I believe

3937
02:06:55,146 --> 02:06:57,647
in our policy. If we direct the

3938
02:06:57,647 --> 02:06:58,749
if we direct the superintendent,

3939
02:06:58,749 --> 02:07:00,384
we're allowed to do that unless

3940
02:07:00,384 --> 02:07:01,519
it's going to create an undue

3941
02:07:01,519 --> 02:07:03,486
burden, at which time we have

3942
02:07:03,486 --> 02:07:05,389
to take it back to the board.

3943
02:07:05,389 --> 02:07:06,590
>> Yeah. And that's why I asked

3944
02:07:06,590 --> 02:07:08,291
for if there's board consensus,

3945
02:07:08,291 --> 02:07:09,560
because it is a heavily nuanced.

3946
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:11,280
A classroom is just not totally

3947
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:12,396
technology. And the teachers in

3948
02:07:12,396 --> 02:07:14,932
the room and the students in

3949
02:07:14,932 --> 02:07:16,600
the room in can voice that also.

3950
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:18,136
So I just want to make sure

3951
02:07:18,136 --> 02:07:19,604
that when you say opt out, a

3952
02:07:19,604 --> 02:07:20,705
blanket opt out will be

3953
02:07:20,705 --> 02:07:22,106
detrimental to students because

3954
02:07:22,106 --> 02:07:23,541
there's a lot of components

3955
02:07:23,541 --> 02:07:25,900
that help to accelerate. Go

3956
02:07:25,900 --> 02:07:27,780
ahead. Go ahead. Lily.

3957
02:07:27,780 --> 02:07:28,313
>> Okay. Sorry. I feel the need

3958
02:07:28,313 --> 02:07:30,248
to speak on this. I would first

3959
02:07:30,248 --> 02:07:32,149
of all like to point out that

3960
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:33,618
92% of jobs in the us do

3961
02:07:33,618 --> 02:07:35,190
require digital skills today. I

3962
02:07:35,190 --> 02:07:37,210
think Broward County schools,

3963
02:07:37,210 --> 02:07:40,210
it's important that, you know,

3964
02:07:40,158 --> 02:07:41,926
we have around, what, 230,000

3965
02:07:41,926 --> 02:07:43,361
students. It is important that

3966
02:07:43,361 --> 02:07:45,163
we prepare our students

3967
02:07:45,163 --> 02:07:46,630
properly for the up and coming

3968
02:07:46,630 --> 02:07:48,699
world. We are in the digital

3969
02:07:48,699 --> 02:07:50,668
age. I know not everyone's a

3970
02:07:50,668 --> 02:07:52,337
fan of it and, you know, there

3971
02:07:52,337 --> 02:07:53,738
are spectrums to it, and it's

3972
02:07:53,738 --> 02:07:54,973
important to toe the line and

3973
02:07:54,973 --> 02:07:56,741
make sure that, you know, it's

3974
02:07:56,741 --> 02:07:57,942
not our students entire life. I

3975
02:07:57,942 --> 02:07:59,900
know we spoke about the writing

3976
02:07:59,900 --> 02:08:00,812
skills. It's so important to

3977
02:08:00,812 --> 02:08:01,946
write guys. How do people not

3978
02:08:01,946 --> 02:08:03,515
know cursive write, obviously.

3979
02:08:03,515 --> 02:08:04,916
But at the same time, when

3980
02:08:04,916 --> 02:08:06,818
someone goes to apply for a job,

3981
02:08:06,818 --> 02:08:07,752
if they don't know how to use

3982
02:08:07,752 --> 02:08:09,530
technology properly, someone's

3983
02:08:09,530 --> 02:08:10,755
going to ask the same question.

3984
02:08:10,755 --> 02:08:12,757
Someone's going to ask, how do

3985
02:08:12,757 --> 02:08:13,858
you not know how to do this in

3986
02:08:13,858 --> 02:08:15,920
in this day and age?

3987
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:17,492
Realistically, you cannot not

3988
02:08:17,562 --> 02:08:19,297
know how to properly use a

3989
02:08:19,297 --> 02:08:20,131
laptop and an iPhone. And I

3990
02:08:20,131 --> 02:08:21,999
understand, right, that we

3991
02:08:21,999 --> 02:08:23,768
don't want it to be overly used,

3992
02:08:23,768 --> 02:08:24,969
but I think entirely opting out

3993
02:08:24,969 --> 02:08:26,538
of it is extremely damaging to

3994
02:08:26,538 --> 02:08:27,939
a student's future. Right? I'm

3995
02:08:27,939 --> 02:08:29,807
sure Mikhail can say something

3996
02:08:29,807 --> 02:08:31,943
along the same lines that we

3997
02:08:31,943 --> 02:08:33,111
are at such an advantage, like

3998
02:08:33,111 --> 02:08:34,112
in the job market compared to

3999
02:08:34,112 --> 02:08:35,980
older generations, simply

4000
02:08:35,980 --> 02:08:38,449
because we grew up with this.

4001
02:08:38,449 --> 02:08:39,918
i've had an iPad for over ten

4002
02:08:39,918 --> 02:08:41,319
years now. I have my computer,

4003
02:08:41,319 --> 02:08:43,880
my phone, and because of that,

4004
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:44,923
I have so much access to

4005
02:08:44,923 --> 02:08:46,124
knowledge. And when I come here,

4006
02:08:46,124 --> 02:08:48,126
a student advisor, I didn't

4007
02:08:48,126 --> 02:08:49,927
have to learn how to use my

4008
02:08:49,927 --> 02:08:51,290
laptop. Day one. I already knew

4009
02:08:51,290 --> 02:08:52,197
how to do everything. Think

4010
02:08:52,197 --> 02:08:54,320
about all the emails we send

4011
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:55,167
each other, all the phone calls

4012
02:08:55,167 --> 02:08:57,200
that have to get made, the

4013
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:58,236
meetings that get set up. We

4014
02:08:58,236 --> 02:08:59,938
are in the digital era. Our

4015
02:08:59,938 --> 02:09:01,139
students deserve to be properly

4016
02:09:01,139 --> 02:09:02,207
prepared for that. I understand

4017
02:09:02,207 --> 02:09:04,343
that there might be differences

4018
02:09:04,343 --> 02:09:06,144
of, you know, beliefs at home.

4019
02:09:06,144 --> 02:09:08,313
And if we want to speak about

4020
02:09:08,313 --> 02:09:09,715
maybe opting out of the amount

4021
02:09:09,715 --> 02:09:10,848
of digital education, I think

4022
02:09:10,848 --> 02:09:12,250
that's a great conversation to

4023
02:09:12,250 --> 02:09:14,453
have, but to give parents the

4024
02:09:14,453 --> 02:09:15,921
option to completely take that

4025
02:09:15,921 --> 02:09:17,456
away from their students and

4026
02:09:17,456 --> 02:09:20,456
their children, I just don't

4027
02:09:22,361 --> 02:09:24,128
think that's right at all.

4028
02:09:24,128 --> 02:09:26,365
>> Sort of what Lily said. I

4029
02:09:26,365 --> 02:09:28,834
just want to clarification how

4030
02:09:28,834 --> 02:09:30,269
how would that look like,

4031
02:09:30,269 --> 02:09:31,300
superintendent? How would them

4032
02:09:31,300 --> 02:09:32,270
opting out?

4033
02:09:32,270 --> 02:09:33,305
>> I, I can't tell you that

4034
02:09:33,305 --> 02:09:35,140
right now because we're

4035
02:09:35,140 --> 02:09:37,142
spinning in my head. I have

4036
02:09:37,142 --> 02:09:39,311
kids too is. And I used to be a

4037
02:09:39,311 --> 02:09:42,181
teacher and everything above is

4038
02:09:42,181 --> 02:09:45,490
that the classroom is not a

4039
02:09:45,490 --> 02:09:46,151
monolith of technology. It's

4040
02:09:46,151 --> 02:09:47,319
variations of instructional

4041
02:09:47,319 --> 02:09:49,719
practices that teachers provide

4042
02:09:50,823 --> 02:09:52,258
to students. And as Lily said,

4043
02:09:52,258 --> 02:09:55,127
very well, we are in a digital

4044
02:09:55,127 --> 02:09:57,663
age and a large percentage of

4045
02:09:57,663 --> 02:10:00,630
industries local and abroad

4046
02:10:00,132 --> 02:10:02,132
require some technology

4047
02:10:03,350 --> 02:10:05,204
literacy. And I do not want to

4048
02:10:05,204 --> 02:10:07,372
create a huge detriment for

4049
02:10:07,372 --> 02:10:08,741
students and and limiting their

4050
02:10:08,741 --> 02:10:10,242
opportunities in the future. I

4051
02:10:10,242 --> 02:10:11,677
understand the concerns of some

4052
02:10:11,677 --> 02:10:13,110
parents when it comes to screen

4053
02:10:13,110 --> 02:10:14,246
time and all of that, but

4054
02:10:14,246 --> 02:10:16,480
that's why I say it's heavily

4055
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:17,249
nuanced and the team would have

4056
02:10:17,249 --> 02:10:18,550
to go back, figure out what

4057
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:19,952
things are required, what

4058
02:10:19,952 --> 02:10:21,420
things are required for schools

4059
02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:23,555
that kids are going to for a

4060
02:10:23,555 --> 02:10:25,570
magnet, a stem magnet. Okay.

4061
02:10:25,570 --> 02:10:26,993
Right. These, these are all

4062
02:10:26,993 --> 02:10:29,362
kind of components within our

4063
02:10:29,362 --> 02:10:30,796
school district that we have to

4064
02:10:30,796 --> 02:10:32,431
be able to educate the parents

4065
02:10:32,431 --> 02:10:33,565
that I understand you want to

4066
02:10:33,565 --> 02:10:35,434
opt out, but you know, your

4067
02:10:35,434 --> 02:10:36,568
kids are in a stem magnet and

4068
02:10:36,568 --> 02:10:37,537
they're using this technology

4069
02:10:37,537 --> 02:10:38,538
for these specific purposes.

4070
02:10:38,538 --> 02:10:40,506
What specifically do you want

4071
02:10:40,506 --> 02:10:41,641
to opt out of? And so that's

4072
02:10:41,641 --> 02:10:43,376
why I say it's a heavily

4073
02:10:43,376 --> 02:10:44,544
nuanced conversation and just a

4074
02:10:44,544 --> 02:10:46,612
blanket not opt out could be

4075
02:10:46,612 --> 02:10:47,313
very detrimental to to students

4076
02:10:47,313 --> 02:10:49,313
futures.

4077
02:10:49,815 --> 02:10:51,650
>> So is there no policy set in

4078
02:10:51,650 --> 02:10:53,319
place currently regarding

4079
02:10:53,319 --> 02:10:54,520
opting out or any information

4080
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:56,520
on that?

4081
02:10:57,389 --> 02:10:58,591
>> Not specifically. There are

4082
02:10:58,591 --> 02:11:00,991
parental rights, right. Those

4083
02:11:01,761 --> 02:11:03,263
are current laws and whatnot

4084
02:11:03,263 --> 02:11:05,330
where parents do have options

4085
02:11:05,330 --> 02:11:06,399
to opt out and to opt in into

4086
02:11:06,399 --> 02:11:08,000
certain things, but we'll have

4087
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:10,403
to do some research and see how

4088
02:11:10,403 --> 02:11:12,170
this is applicable to

4089
02:11:12,170 --> 02:11:14,373
technology in the classroom.

4090
02:11:14,373 --> 02:11:16,373
>> Okay.

4091
02:11:16,809 --> 02:11:18,770
>> Chair, if I, if I MAY. And

4092
02:11:18,770 --> 02:11:20,113
Hepburn, I'm glad you just said

4093
02:11:20,113 --> 02:11:21,514
the last thing that you said,

4094
02:11:21,514 --> 02:11:22,949
because my request is certainly

4095
02:11:22,949 --> 02:11:23,950
in line with all requisite

4096
02:11:23,950 --> 02:11:25,485
portions of Florida statutes

4097
02:11:25,485 --> 02:11:27,554
and the parental rights

4098
02:11:27,554 --> 02:11:29,888
statutes. That's what I want to

4099
02:11:29,888 --> 02:11:32,691
know. I want a review done by

4100
02:11:32,691 --> 02:11:34,493
the team of what rights are

4101
02:11:34,493 --> 02:11:35,896
afforded to when it comes to

4102
02:11:35,896 --> 02:11:37,530
technology opt outs for parents

4103
02:11:37,530 --> 02:11:38,832
under state statute, because,

4104
02:11:38,832 --> 02:11:40,900
as I've said a thousand times

4105
02:11:40,900 --> 02:11:42,200
on this dais, we follow the law

4106
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:43,136
in Broward County and will

4107
02:11:43,136 --> 02:11:44,904
continue to do something. And

4108
02:11:44,904 --> 02:11:46,390
we're not going to do anything

4109
02:11:46,390 --> 02:11:47,107
that's contrary to the law. So

4110
02:11:47,107 --> 02:11:48,909
in accordance with state

4111
02:11:48,909 --> 02:11:50,677
statute, I want to know what

4112
02:11:50,677 --> 02:11:52,179
our policy is for opting out

4113
02:11:52,179 --> 02:11:53,947
and what the parameters of that

4114
02:11:53,947 --> 02:11:55,448
look like under statute.

4115
02:11:55,448 --> 02:11:57,550
Research it with your team. Let

4116
02:11:57,550 --> 02:11:59,553
me know, figure that out. And

4117
02:11:59,553 --> 02:12:01,121
then I want to follow up as to

4118
02:12:01,121 --> 02:12:02,389
how a parent can achieve that.

4119
02:12:02,389 --> 02:12:03,657
Should they make the decision

4120
02:12:03,657 --> 02:12:06,226
that that is in the best

4121
02:12:06,226 --> 02:12:07,561
interest of their child? And I

4122
02:12:07,561 --> 02:12:10,561
would like that within two

4123
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:15,469
weeks if possible.

4124
02:12:15,469 --> 02:12:17,670
>> I know MRS. Alhadeff wanted

4125
02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:21,241
to speak on this on one of MR.

4126
02:12:21,241 --> 02:12:23,241
Cervera points.

4127
02:12:25,211 --> 02:12:28,211
>> Yes. So MR. Cervera brought

4128
02:12:30,617 --> 02:12:34,554
up that he wanted to get the

4129
02:12:34,554 --> 02:12:38,154
opinion of the board members to

4130
02:12:38,525 --> 02:12:39,960
weigh in on doing another

4131
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:43,560
session. I forgot what we were

4132
02:12:45,399 --> 02:12:46,266
calling it and and then then

4133
02:12:46,266 --> 02:12:49,266
someone said they wanted to

4134
02:12:50,770 --> 02:12:52,206
make it as a vote. So I don't

4135
02:12:52,206 --> 02:12:54,140
believe this necessarily has to

4136
02:12:54,140 --> 02:12:57,740
be a vote. The board members

4137
02:12:58,278 --> 02:13:00,781
can weigh in on MR. Cervera

4138
02:13:00,781 --> 02:13:03,384
ideas. This one and the one he

4139
02:13:03,384 --> 02:13:05,185
just spoke about. And then if

4140
02:13:05,185 --> 02:13:08,185
Chair Leonardi, if you feel

4141
02:13:08,389 --> 02:13:10,223
that you have board majority to

4142
02:13:10,223 --> 02:13:12,623
move forward with another

4143
02:13:13,794 --> 02:13:14,829
rulemaking session, then you

4144
02:13:14,829 --> 02:13:16,300
can do that.

4145
02:13:16,300 --> 02:13:17,831
>> Yeah, that's what I asked.

4146
02:13:17,831 --> 02:13:18,899
>> We don't necessarily have to

4147
02:13:18,899 --> 02:13:20,670
go to vote for it.

4148
02:13:20,670 --> 02:13:21,935
>> Yeah, that's what I asked

4149
02:13:21,935 --> 02:13:23,838
for. And it was proposed that

4150
02:13:23,838 --> 02:13:25,500
it just be taken to a board

4151
02:13:25,500 --> 02:13:26,840
vote. So again, I will move

4152
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,420
forward with the will of the

4153
02:13:28,420 --> 02:13:29,944
board if that is taken right

4154
02:13:29,944 --> 02:13:31,512
now or at a board vote next

4155
02:13:31,512 --> 02:13:33,280
week. So is anyone objecting to

4156
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:35,783
a board vote next week besides

4157
02:13:35,783 --> 02:13:38,352
MRS. Alhadeff and MR. Cervera?

4158
02:13:38,352 --> 02:13:39,520
No. And MRS. Rupert no.

4159
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,520
>> I'm good.

4160
02:13:42,589 --> 02:13:44,191
>> So that is three objections.

4161
02:13:44,191 --> 02:13:45,826
So not a majority of the board.

4162
02:13:45,826 --> 02:13:50,260
So we will move forward with a

4163
02:13:50,197 --> 02:13:51,231
board vote next week.

4164
02:13:51,231 --> 02:13:52,666
>> Okay.

4165
02:13:52,666 --> 02:13:53,901
>> And I believe the

4166
02:13:53,901 --> 02:13:55,903
information that MR. Cervera

4167
02:13:55,903 --> 02:13:58,903
asked for with regards to

4168
02:13:59,507 --> 02:14:01,800
opting out, I don't know that

4169
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:03,770
it was asking for a review. So

4170
02:14:03,770 --> 02:14:04,378
I don't know that that's

4171
02:14:04,378 --> 02:14:06,130
creating an undue burden.

4172
02:14:06,130 --> 02:14:07,415
Doctor Hepburn.

4173
02:14:07,415 --> 02:14:09,616
>> Oh no, the follow up isn't

4174
02:14:09,616 --> 02:14:11,451
an undue burden typing it up

4175
02:14:11,451 --> 02:14:11,619
right now so the team can get

4176
02:14:11,619 --> 02:14:13,420
it.

4177
02:14:13,420 --> 02:14:14,489
>> So everyone will get a copy

4178
02:14:14,489 --> 02:14:15,289
of that follow up.

4179
02:14:15,289 --> 02:14:16,357
>> Absolutely.

4180
02:14:16,357 --> 02:14:18,125
>> MISS Leonardi, could you

4181
02:14:18,125 --> 02:14:20,294
just clarify? I'm sorry, I I'm

4182
02:14:20,294 --> 02:14:21,895
if I've missed this is the

4183
02:14:21,895 --> 02:14:23,164
board vote next week on whether

4184
02:14:23,164 --> 02:14:24,932
to have another rural

4185
02:14:24,932 --> 02:14:26,234
development workshop or not. Is

4186
02:14:26,234 --> 02:14:27,902
that it? So are you moving

4187
02:14:27,902 --> 02:14:29,370
ahead with voting on the policy

4188
02:14:29,370 --> 02:14:31,506
next week, or you're voting on

4189
02:14:31,506 --> 02:14:31,806
whether to have a rural

4190
02:14:31,806 --> 02:14:32,907
development?

4191
02:14:32,907 --> 02:14:34,374
>> MISS Dupree? Bruno, I'm

4192
02:14:34,374 --> 02:14:36,277
assuming there would be two

4193
02:14:36,277 --> 02:14:38,346
item. Well, there is the public

4194
02:14:38,346 --> 02:14:40,414
hearing next week, but if the

4195
02:14:40,414 --> 02:14:41,883
board votes to do another rural

4196
02:14:41,883 --> 02:14:42,984
development workshop, then that

4197
02:14:42,984 --> 02:14:44,786
public hearing would be

4198
02:14:44,786 --> 02:14:45,853
postponed, correct?

4199
02:14:45,853 --> 02:14:47,322
>> Yes.

4200
02:14:47,322 --> 02:14:49,124
>> Okay. Thanks. Sorry.

4201
02:14:49,124 --> 02:14:51,124
>> MISS Thompson.

4202
02:14:51,225 --> 02:14:53,280
>> So maybe I misunderstood. I

4203
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:54,929
thought to that the general

4204
02:14:54,929 --> 02:14:56,330
counsel had said if we wanted

4205
02:14:56,330 --> 02:14:58,330
to have another workshop, then

4206
02:14:58,330 --> 02:14:59,100
there had to be a vote. And

4207
02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:01,200
since we don't vote in

4208
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:04,602
workshops, which is why I said

4209
02:15:04,606 --> 02:15:06,740
bring it to a vote. So I just

4210
02:15:06,740 --> 02:15:07,775
need clarification because I

4211
02:15:07,775 --> 02:15:09,678
feel like it's going to come

4212
02:15:09,678 --> 02:15:10,745
back on me, that I demanded a

4213
02:15:10,745 --> 02:15:11,746
vote. But that was my

4214
02:15:11,746 --> 02:15:12,680
understanding of what the

4215
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:13,914
general counsel said.

4216
02:15:13,914 --> 02:15:15,383
>> Attorney Dupree Bruno.

4217
02:15:15,383 --> 02:15:18,286
>> Okay, so there's a couple

4218
02:15:18,286 --> 02:15:20,210
things. We are currently in the

4219
02:15:20,210 --> 02:15:22,210
statutorily required rule

4220
02:15:22,891 --> 02:15:25,160
making process, of rule

4221
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:27,160
development workshop occurred

4222
02:15:27,596 --> 02:15:29,131
on, I believe it was JUNE 8th.

4223
02:15:29,131 --> 02:15:31,799
And then the next step would be

4224
02:15:31,799 --> 02:15:34,799
the public hearing for adoption

4225
02:15:34,969 --> 02:15:37,873
on JUNE 23rd, JUNE 8th. There

4226
02:15:37,873 --> 02:15:40,873
was public comment. JUNE 23rd

4227
02:15:41,276 --> 02:15:43,445
there will be public comment.

4228
02:15:43,445 --> 02:15:45,981
The question that was posed was

4229
02:15:45,981 --> 02:15:47,415
whether or not there could be

4230
02:15:47,415 --> 02:15:48,884
another rule development

4231
02:15:48,884 --> 02:15:51,884
workshop. And how does that

4232
02:15:52,820 --> 02:15:55,357
occur per your policy policy

4233
02:15:55,357 --> 02:15:57,359
1000, it delegates to the chair

4234
02:15:57,359 --> 02:15:59,661
the ability to make a decision

4235
02:15:59,661 --> 02:16:01,863
as to whether or not a second

4236
02:16:01,863 --> 02:16:03,365
rule development workshop can

4237
02:16:03,365 --> 02:16:04,932
occur. And that basically means

4238
02:16:04,932 --> 02:16:06,133
that you go through the rules

4239
02:16:06,133 --> 02:16:07,369
again and then you have public

4240
02:16:07,369 --> 02:16:09,400
comment again, which is similar

4241
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,273
to what's going to happen in

4242
02:16:12,273 --> 02:16:13,675
the public hearing. The that's

4243
02:16:13,675 --> 02:16:16,611
what you're that's what your

4244
02:16:16,611 --> 02:16:18,780
policy currently says. And the

4245
02:16:18,780 --> 02:16:20,182
chair has already made a

4246
02:16:20,182 --> 02:16:22,684
decision that there would not

4247
02:16:22,684 --> 02:16:23,418
be a second workshop because

4248
02:16:23,418 --> 02:16:25,220
you're going to have your

4249
02:16:25,220 --> 02:16:26,989
public hearing, and you also

4250
02:16:26,989 --> 02:16:28,424
have the opportunity to submit

4251
02:16:28,424 --> 02:16:30,824
comments and questions during

4252
02:16:31,327 --> 02:16:34,229
this interim period. If the

4253
02:16:34,229 --> 02:16:35,631
board wants to basically change

4254
02:16:35,631 --> 02:16:38,631
that and have a rule

4255
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:40,100
development workshop, then my

4256
02:16:40,100 --> 02:16:42,137
recommendation is that you have

4257
02:16:42,137 --> 02:16:44,306
a vote because you're not in

4258
02:16:44,306 --> 02:16:46,750
compliance with your policy,

4259
02:16:46,750 --> 02:16:48,244
because your policy already

4260
02:16:48,244 --> 02:16:49,712
dictates what happens in these

4261
02:16:49,712 --> 02:16:51,413
scenarios. You've already

4262
02:16:51,413 --> 02:16:53,413
delegated that responsibility

4263
02:16:54,750 --> 02:16:56,185
to your chair per policy 1000.

4264
02:16:56,185 --> 02:16:57,987
So if you want to change that,

4265
02:16:57,987 --> 02:17:00,222
you can. But I don't you can't

4266
02:17:00,222 --> 02:17:02,692
vote in a workshop. So you have

4267
02:17:02,692 --> 02:17:04,126
to do that in a, in a regular

4268
02:17:04,126 --> 02:17:04,459
school board meeting or special

4269
02:17:04,459 --> 02:17:06,459
meeting.

4270
02:17:07,696 --> 02:17:10,266
>> And just to add some

4271
02:17:10,266 --> 02:17:12,340
additional context, and I think

4272
02:17:12,340 --> 02:17:14,169
we've all received the emails,

4273
02:17:14,169 --> 02:17:15,605
but I've been acting under

4274
02:17:15,605 --> 02:17:17,639
advisement of our board

4275
02:17:17,639 --> 02:17:19,642
attorney. She has provided

4276
02:17:19,642 --> 02:17:21,776
clear guidance in email to us

4277
02:17:21,776 --> 02:17:23,211
about this issue. But again,

4278
02:17:23,211 --> 02:17:24,914
I'm I'm happy to move forward.

4279
02:17:24,914 --> 02:17:26,449
And I've put it to the board.

4280
02:17:26,449 --> 02:17:27,917
I'm happy to move forward, per

4281
02:17:27,917 --> 02:17:30,520
the will of the board.

4282
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:32,452
>> So wait for clarification

4283
02:17:32,588 --> 02:17:34,230
then. So could we do a

4284
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:35,240
consensus to see if there's

4285
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:37,226
interest and then an item come

4286
02:17:37,226 --> 02:17:39,796
back to formally vote? If there

4287
02:17:39,796 --> 02:17:42,232
is consensus for an additional

4288
02:17:42,232 --> 02:17:43,666
workshop, because that way it

4289
02:17:43,666 --> 02:17:45,333
wouldn't. If it does not pass,

4290
02:17:45,333 --> 02:17:47,337
then it does not delay the rule

4291
02:17:47,337 --> 02:17:48,738
making on the 23rd.

4292
02:17:48,738 --> 02:17:50,738
>> Attorney Dupree Bruno.

4293
02:17:52,374 --> 02:17:53,643
>> Yes, that that is correct.

4294
02:17:53,643 --> 02:17:54,576
>> So can we get consensus?

4295
02:17:54,576 --> 02:17:55,611
>> Yeah, that's what I

4296
02:17:55,611 --> 02:17:58,110
originally asked for, MISS

4297
02:18:01,717 --> 02:18:04,117
Rupert. Yes, MISS Thompson.

4298
02:18:08,258 --> 02:18:11,258
MISS Bulman. DR. Holness. No.

4299
02:18:11,394 --> 02:18:13,794
DR. Zeman. MR. Cervera.

4300
02:18:13,963 --> 02:18:17,533
>> Yes. And I would renew my

4301
02:18:17,533 --> 02:18:18,635
request for you to order the

4302
02:18:18,635 --> 02:18:19,736
workshop pursuant to your

4303
02:18:19,736 --> 02:18:21,437
authority as chair, which you

4304
02:18:21,437 --> 02:18:24,700
have the right to do.

4305
02:18:24,700 --> 02:18:26,700
>> And, MRS. Alhadeff.

4306
02:18:26,942 --> 02:18:28,344
>> Yes.

4307
02:18:28,344 --> 02:18:30,147
>> And I would like to move

4308
02:18:30,147 --> 02:18:32,547
forward, per our general

4309
02:18:32,649 --> 02:18:33,783
Counsel's guidance. So that

4310
02:18:33,783 --> 02:18:35,952
means that the majority of the

4311
02:18:35,952 --> 02:18:38,880
board will not does not desire

4312
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:39,289
to do another rural development

4313
02:18:39,289 --> 02:18:41,124
workshop into the. In addition

4314
02:18:41,124 --> 02:18:44,227
to the one that we did last

4315
02:18:44,227 --> 02:18:47,290
week. You still have the floor,

4316
02:18:47,290 --> 02:18:48,297
MR. Cervera.

4317
02:18:48,297 --> 02:18:51,401
>> All in with this. Just so

4318
02:18:51,401 --> 02:18:53,570
we're clear, the request.

4319
02:18:53,570 --> 02:18:55,705
Doctor. Superintendent for the

4320
02:18:55,705 --> 02:18:57,173
follow up serves as a

4321
02:18:57,173 --> 02:18:59,342
rescission of my request for

4322
02:18:59,342 --> 02:19:01,144
you to update the website. So

4323
02:19:01,144 --> 02:19:02,679
let's do the follow up and I

4324
02:19:02,679 --> 02:19:04,548
will revisit the website issue.

4325
02:19:04,548 --> 02:19:06,516
I just don't want there to be

4326
02:19:06,516 --> 02:19:09,152
any confusion. So the the ask

4327
02:19:09,152 --> 02:19:11,521
of you right now is to just do

4328
02:19:11,521 --> 02:19:13,724
the follow up with whatever our

4329
02:19:13,724 --> 02:19:15,125
policy is based on the parental

4330
02:19:15,125 --> 02:19:16,927
rights statutes that exist in

4331
02:19:16,927 --> 02:19:18,362
this state. Get me that within

4332
02:19:18,362 --> 02:19:19,796
two weeks, and we'll revisit

4333
02:19:19,796 --> 02:19:21,999
how we're going to disseminate

4334
02:19:21,999 --> 02:19:24,168
that information to the public.

4335
02:19:24,168 --> 02:19:27,768
Is that clear? Thank you, sir.

4336
02:19:27,771 --> 02:19:30,171
>> Thank you, MISS Rupert.

4337
02:19:30,573 --> 02:19:32,775
>> Thank you. And thank you for

4338
02:19:32,775 --> 02:19:34,211
all the the chairs here that

4339
02:19:34,211 --> 02:19:35,279
spend so much time really

4340
02:19:35,279 --> 02:19:36,914
working for our district and

4341
02:19:36,914 --> 02:19:39,649
our family and our kids. Thank

4342
02:19:39,649 --> 02:19:40,851
you so much. I know sometimes

4343
02:19:40,851 --> 02:19:42,886
it MAY seem like we're not

4344
02:19:42,886 --> 02:19:45,389
listening, but we we really are.

4345
02:19:45,389 --> 02:19:46,823
And I, I try to listen, you

4346
02:19:46,823 --> 02:19:48,225
know, even hurting my neck

4347
02:19:48,225 --> 02:19:49,426
sometimes leaning all the way

4348
02:19:49,426 --> 02:19:51,128
over because it's that

4349
02:19:51,128 --> 02:19:52,929
important to have eye contact

4350
02:19:52,929 --> 02:19:55,929
with the people that you

4351
02:19:57,268 --> 02:19:58,902
respect. And I respect you. The

4352
02:19:58,902 --> 02:20:01,572
first part I want to talk about

4353
02:20:01,572 --> 02:20:03,600
is project based learning. I

4354
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:04,108
think the ai conversation,

4355
02:20:04,108 --> 02:20:07,708
which we're going to be having

4356
02:20:08,846 --> 02:20:10,981
later. Needs to be phased out

4357
02:20:10,981 --> 02:20:12,849
as we talk. When we talk about

4358
02:20:12,849 --> 02:20:14,185
this with our elementary school

4359
02:20:14,185 --> 02:20:15,653
kids, middle and high school,

4360
02:20:15,653 --> 02:20:17,454
big difference. You know, I

4361
02:20:17,454 --> 02:20:19,890
think there's more opportunity

4362
02:20:19,890 --> 02:20:21,570
and better learning. And I'm a

4363
02:20:21,570 --> 02:20:23,194
reading teacher, language arts

4364
02:20:23,194 --> 02:20:24,595
teacher. So, you know, that's,

4365
02:20:24,595 --> 02:20:27,595
that's where I'm leaning with

4366
02:20:28,265 --> 02:20:30,401
this. They need pencil and

4367
02:20:30,401 --> 02:20:32,103
paper. They need the ability to

4368
02:20:32,103 --> 02:20:33,637
do that. They need to be able

4369
02:20:33,637 --> 02:20:35,105
to make margin notes. Those are

4370
02:20:35,105 --> 02:20:36,507
really important things to get

4371
02:20:36,507 --> 02:20:38,242
in the elementary level,

4372
02:20:38,242 --> 02:20:39,710
because I can tell you as a

4373
02:20:39,710 --> 02:20:41,545
ninth grade teacher and my

4374
02:20:41,545 --> 02:20:44,448
students came in with third

4375
02:20:44,448 --> 02:20:46,149
grade reading skills. How do

4376
02:20:46,149 --> 02:20:49,419
you make that all up in one

4377
02:20:49,419 --> 02:20:51,756
year? It's difficult, really

4378
02:20:51,756 --> 02:20:53,925
difficult, and it's not fair

4379
02:20:53,925 --> 02:20:55,959
for our kids. So I always

4380
02:20:55,959 --> 02:20:57,762
taught them the basics and my

4381
02:20:57,762 --> 02:20:59,497
kids did really well on the on

4382
02:20:59,497 --> 02:21:02,166
their exams, and they were able

4383
02:21:02,166 --> 02:21:05,669
to go on a few work for us,

4384
02:21:05,669 --> 02:21:07,438
which is amazing. And I think

4385
02:21:07,438 --> 02:21:09,907
that's an important aspect of

4386
02:21:09,907 --> 02:21:11,409
that. Additionally, and I know

4387
02:21:11,409 --> 02:21:12,477
I've mentioned this before,

4388
02:21:12,477 --> 02:21:14,877
there's something called the

4389
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,813
Summer bridge series. It's a

4390
02:21:16,813 --> 02:21:18,215
workbook. It's a fabulous

4391
02:21:18,215 --> 02:21:20,118
workbook. I don't know how much

4392
02:21:20,118 --> 02:21:21,452
it is, but I know it's still

4393
02:21:21,452 --> 02:21:23,621
out there in paper. You know,

4394
02:21:23,621 --> 02:21:26,524
it's a shiny little paper book.

4395
02:21:26,524 --> 02:21:28,260
And what it is, is what it is,

4396
02:21:28,260 --> 02:21:31,626
is sorry, sorry, mom. She would

4397
02:21:32,229 --> 02:21:34,832
kill me with the grammar there.

4398
02:21:34,832 --> 02:21:36,634
Is reviewing the year that you

4399
02:21:36,634 --> 02:21:38,690
just came through. So like it's

4400
02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:39,838
called a two three book. So

4401
02:21:39,838 --> 02:21:41,306
you're reviewing the, the, the

4402
02:21:41,306 --> 02:21:43,408
second grade year over the

4403
02:21:43,408 --> 02:21:44,875
summer, trying to avoid that

4404
02:21:44,875 --> 02:21:47,778
summer slump that we all know.

4405
02:21:47,778 --> 02:21:48,513
And then previewing the

4406
02:21:48,513 --> 02:21:50,282
following year, that one

4407
02:21:50,282 --> 02:21:52,830
they're going to be moving into.

4408
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:53,150
So they're not overwhelmed by

4409
02:21:53,150 --> 02:21:54,786
looking at third grade stuff

4410
02:21:54,786 --> 02:21:56,421
right away. They're reviewing

4411
02:21:56,421 --> 02:21:57,889
their second grade and they're

4412
02:21:57,889 --> 02:22:00,889
keeping it fresh over the

4413
02:22:01,192 --> 02:22:04,620
summer. Did my kids play play

4414
02:22:04,620 --> 02:22:06,640
video games? Actually, only one

4415
02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:08,667
of three did so much at that

4416
02:22:08,667 --> 02:22:10,402
time. And but all of them had

4417
02:22:10,402 --> 02:22:12,336
to finish their books before we

4418
02:22:12,336 --> 02:22:14,720
got back from Canada. And each

4419
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:15,473
one of them did it differently

4420
02:22:15,473 --> 02:22:17,809
because they're all different

4421
02:22:17,809 --> 02:22:19,644
learners under the Esq umbrella.

4422
02:22:19,644 --> 02:22:21,213
And I'm going to go back to

4423
02:22:21,213 --> 02:22:23,480
gifted because one of the most

4424
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:26,318
difficult kids to be able to

4425
02:22:26,318 --> 02:22:28,860
get across that finish line for

4426
02:22:28,860 --> 02:22:30,589
whatever future they want to

4427
02:22:30,589 --> 02:22:32,857
have, is our twice gifted,

4428
02:22:32,857 --> 02:22:34,526
twice exceptional. So I'm going

4429
02:22:34,526 --> 02:22:36,694
to come back to that when we

4430
02:22:36,694 --> 02:22:38,530
talk about writing, I MAY as

4431
02:22:38,530 --> 02:22:40,297
well just do it now before I

4432
02:22:40,297 --> 02:22:42,134
forget. So it's extremely

4433
02:22:42,134 --> 02:22:43,934
important, you know, and

4434
02:22:43,934 --> 02:22:46,334
especially important to make

4435
02:22:46,805 --> 02:22:48,940
sure that our students are

4436
02:22:48,940 --> 02:22:50,475
tested. And I had to push to

4437
02:22:50,475 --> 02:22:54,750
get them tested for gifted. So

4438
02:22:56,782 --> 02:22:58,650
he was actually. In, I think it

4439
02:22:58,650 --> 02:23:00,552
was first grade, end of first

4440
02:23:00,552 --> 02:23:03,200
grade. He was in gifted. And if

4441
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:05,456
I hadn't had that done with him,

4442
02:23:05,456 --> 02:23:08,393
we never would have caught the

4443
02:23:08,393 --> 02:23:09,862
the sld that he have dysgraphia.

4444
02:23:09,862 --> 02:23:13,310
So he had difficulty from the

4445
02:23:13,310 --> 02:23:14,499
get go. But we were able to

4446
02:23:14,499 --> 02:23:16,301
understand. And at that time in.

4447
02:23:16,301 --> 02:23:19,301
He's 33 now doing well well

4448
02:23:19,905 --> 02:23:22,408
well, super well happy. And

4449
02:23:22,408 --> 02:23:24,142
it's difficult at that point to

4450
02:23:24,142 --> 02:23:26,745
reach those minds of the gifted

4451
02:23:26,745 --> 02:23:28,647
kids, keep them engaged in a

4452
02:23:28,647 --> 02:23:30,683
fun, creative way that they're

4453
02:23:30,683 --> 02:23:32,150
a part of. It's extremely

4454
02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:36,350
important to do that. So why do

4455
02:23:36,488 --> 02:23:38,557
I say that? Because I believe

4456
02:23:38,557 --> 02:23:40,626
students work better when they

4457
02:23:40,626 --> 02:23:41,794
have a teacher in the classroom.

4458
02:23:41,794 --> 02:23:44,290
The most important thing that

4459
02:23:44,290 --> 02:23:46,866
we could do. But besides having

4460
02:23:46,866 --> 02:23:48,333
their minutes to do on I-ready

4461
02:23:48,333 --> 02:23:49,969
and it is done in elementary

4462
02:23:49,969 --> 02:23:51,904
school, you can hear whatever

4463
02:23:51,904 --> 02:23:53,372
you want to hear. But when you

4464
02:23:53,372 --> 02:23:55,908
know and you hear from teachers

4465
02:23:55,908 --> 02:23:57,409
and you go visit your schools,

4466
02:23:57,409 --> 02:24:00,212
the kids and the parents and

4467
02:24:00,212 --> 02:24:01,981
the teachers complain about

4468
02:24:01,981 --> 02:24:04,183
mandatory minutes for I-ready.

4469
02:24:04,183 --> 02:24:07,530
And to say that that's not true

4470
02:24:07,530 --> 02:24:09,200
is not true. It is happening.

4471
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:10,356
They do have I-ready minutes.

4472
02:24:10,356 --> 02:24:14,259
That must be done in a weekly

4473
02:24:14,259 --> 02:24:17,463
daily basis. If that were their

4474
02:24:17,463 --> 02:24:18,931
only opportunity to do it,

4475
02:24:18,931 --> 02:24:21,767
maybe we could be happier with

4476
02:24:21,767 --> 02:24:22,969
it. But it's not. It's all the

4477
02:24:22,969 --> 02:24:24,871
other things that we ask them

4478
02:24:24,871 --> 02:24:26,138
to do as well. We need more

4479
02:24:26,138 --> 02:24:27,939
autonomy on that. And I would

4480
02:24:27,939 --> 02:24:30,339
push, especially for our

4481
02:24:31,176 --> 02:24:33,176
elementary school teachers.

4482
02:24:35,147 --> 02:24:37,547
It's incredibly important. And

4483
02:24:37,650 --> 02:24:40,152
okay, the second part, Jackie,

4484
02:24:40,152 --> 02:24:43,152
with the resolution for Esq

4485
02:24:44,123 --> 02:24:46,523
executive role, I 100% agree.

4486
02:24:50,229 --> 02:24:51,731
Yes, 100%. Three the preschool

4487
02:24:51,731 --> 02:24:53,166
evaluation. It needs to be

4488
02:24:53,166 --> 02:24:54,801
immediate and it needs to be

4489
02:24:54,801 --> 02:24:56,101
done. So our kids are ready to

4490
02:24:56,101 --> 02:24:58,238
start school. I don't care if

4491
02:24:58,238 --> 02:25:00,339
we have to hire specials

4492
02:25:00,339 --> 02:25:02,739
outside our system, whatever

4493
02:25:02,909 --> 02:25:04,644
gets it done. So our kids

4494
02:25:04,644 --> 02:25:07,514
aren't going to school in

4495
02:25:07,514 --> 02:25:10,514
AUGUST and waiting all those

4496
02:25:11,150 --> 02:25:14,190
months, which comes out to no

4497
02:25:14,190 --> 02:25:15,755
accommodations, no extra help,

4498
02:25:15,755 --> 02:25:17,289
no things to give them allllhe

4499
02:25:17,289 --> 02:25:20,494
tools t that they deserve I in

4500
02:25:20,494 --> 02:25:22,494
theiroolboxox. So extreme

4501
02:25:23,396 --> 02:25:24,464
poportant, very important to do.

4502
02:25:24,464 --> 02:25:25,932
So. I want to share that,

4503
02:25:25,932 --> 02:25:27,932
especially with the

4504
02:25:28,401 --> 02:25:29,869
superintendent and, and my, my

4505
02:25:29,869 --> 02:25:31,869
colleagues. So that's

4506
02:25:35,241 --> 02:25:37,641
incredibly important. I don't

4507
02:25:38,912 --> 02:25:41,470
like hearing about the use of

4508
02:25:41,470 --> 02:25:42,181
money being pulled back for

4509
02:25:42,181 --> 02:25:43,583
Cambridge and some other stuff.

4510
02:25:43,583 --> 02:25:46,583
We need more clarification on

4511
02:25:46,753 --> 02:25:47,988
that. And, you know, I'll I'll

4512
02:25:47,988 --> 02:25:52,188
say more later on that, but we

4513
02:25:52,192 --> 02:25:54,393
need more clarification to the

4514
02:25:54,393 --> 02:25:56,393
Human Relations Committee.

4515
02:25:59,799 --> 02:26:01,201
Thank you so much. And 466

4516
02:26:01,201 --> 02:26:02,669
participants for six through 12

4517
02:26:02,669 --> 02:26:04,400
students. That's a lot. That's

4518
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:06,940
amazing. And good for you.

4519
02:26:06,940 --> 02:26:08,775
Let's keep it going. 106

4520
02:26:08,775 --> 02:26:10,910
schools can't wait to see way

4521
02:26:10,910 --> 02:26:15,110
more that get them no place for

4522
02:26:17,817 --> 02:26:20,817
hate. I was listening very

4523
02:26:21,722 --> 02:26:24,122
closely to the multi-language

4524
02:26:25,325 --> 02:26:27,860
and listening to the two

4525
02:26:27,860 --> 02:26:29,830
teacher two teachers. So

4526
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:31,765
teaching one taught English,

4527
02:26:31,765 --> 02:26:33,299
the other taught Spanish. Very

4528
02:26:33,299 --> 02:26:35,402
similar to well, not similar

4529
02:26:35,402 --> 02:26:36,904
because it wasn't language, but

4530
02:26:36,904 --> 02:26:38,639
our fourth and fifth grade at

4531
02:26:38,639 --> 02:26:40,174
the time, Coconut Creek

4532
02:26:40,174 --> 02:26:43,174
Elementary, they had one team

4533
02:26:43,877 --> 02:26:45,778
that had the English teacher

4534
02:26:45,778 --> 02:26:47,140
and she had them for part of

4535
02:26:47,140 --> 02:26:48,749
the day. And then the math and

4536
02:26:48,749 --> 02:26:50,150
science teacher. So English and

4537
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:53,530
history, math and science and

4538
02:26:53,530 --> 02:26:55,955
they were a fantastic duo

4539
02:26:55,955 --> 02:26:57,358
together, but also one teacher

4540
02:26:57,358 --> 02:26:59,859
switching back and forth could

4541
02:26:59,859 --> 02:27:00,995
also work as well. Either one

4542
02:27:00,995 --> 02:27:02,596
would be important to look

4543
02:27:02,596 --> 02:27:05,320
forward and see exactly and

4544
02:27:05,320 --> 02:27:06,100
listen to and read more, more

4545
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:09,100
material that you guys would

4546
02:27:13,573 --> 02:27:16,573
have on that information. Okay.

4547
02:27:17,545 --> 02:27:18,946
>> More.

4548
02:27:18,946 --> 02:27:20,946
>> Parent Community Involvement

4549
02:27:21,848 --> 02:27:23,617
task force. And it is a great

4550
02:27:23,617 --> 02:27:24,819
force, a force to be reckoned

4551
02:27:24,819 --> 02:27:26,854
with. That would be a t shirt

4552
02:27:26,854 --> 02:27:28,322
I'd make for you guys,

4553
02:27:28,322 --> 02:27:30,457
obstacles and concerns and

4554
02:27:30,457 --> 02:27:31,959
challenges. I love that, you

4555
02:27:31,959 --> 02:27:34,950
know, let's point out those

4556
02:27:34,950 --> 02:27:36,230
obstacles and concerns and

4557
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:37,697
challenges and come up together

4558
02:27:37,697 --> 02:27:41,297
with how we need to move

4559
02:27:41,969 --> 02:27:43,838
forward. Talking about Raptor

4560
02:27:43,838 --> 02:27:46,838
and concentric, I think it's

4561
02:27:47,375 --> 02:27:49,543
called correct me if I'm wrong.

4562
02:27:49,543 --> 02:27:51,378
Not being run through the tech

4563
02:27:51,378 --> 02:27:53,140
tech committee, that's a

4564
02:27:53,140 --> 02:27:54,215
problem. And I'm just going to

4565
02:27:54,215 --> 02:27:56,170
say this because I only have a

4566
02:27:56,170 --> 02:27:57,251
few more months anyway. And

4567
02:27:57,251 --> 02:27:59,860
I've said it all along. So I'd

4568
02:27:59,860 --> 02:28:02,686
be, you know, strange by not

4569
02:28:03,958 --> 02:28:08,158
saying it. The what of the word,

4570
02:28:08,296 --> 02:28:10,696
the marginalization of our

4571
02:28:11,866 --> 02:28:14,866
advisory groups has been swift

4572
02:28:16,170 --> 02:28:19,770
at times. And then very slowly

4573
02:28:19,807 --> 02:28:21,643
eroding. And as a board member

4574
02:28:21,643 --> 02:28:24,512
that's been here for 16 years

4575
02:28:24,512 --> 02:28:27,150
now, or almost 16 years, I've

4576
02:28:27,150 --> 02:28:28,549
seen that process. I didn't

4577
02:28:28,549 --> 02:28:29,984
like it in the beginning and

4578
02:28:29,984 --> 02:28:31,853
talked out about it. I didn't

4579
02:28:31,853 --> 02:28:32,987
like it in the middle, and I

4580
02:28:32,987 --> 02:28:36,230
certainly don't like it at this

4581
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:37,192
point. As a board member, it's

4582
02:28:37,192 --> 02:28:39,592
incredibly important to hear

4583
02:28:41,796 --> 02:28:44,196
all voices, and I 100,000%

4584
02:28:45,366 --> 02:28:47,836
agree with Rebecca. I go out

4585
02:28:47,836 --> 02:28:49,703
and have town halls for mental

4586
02:28:49,703 --> 02:28:51,703
health. It's incredibly

4587
02:28:52,207 --> 02:28:53,842
important to to have your town

4588
02:28:53,842 --> 02:28:55,760
halls to get to your people, to

4589
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:56,878
go to the schools, go to the

4590
02:28:56,878 --> 02:28:58,790
games. And that's where people

4591
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:59,981
reach out to you. They'll walk

4592
02:28:59,981 --> 02:29:01,849
up to you and reach out to you

4593
02:29:01,849 --> 02:29:03,500
and be open. And that's when

4594
02:29:03,500 --> 02:29:05,153
you hear the stuff. So most

4595
02:29:05,153 --> 02:29:07,355
parents in district seven don't

4596
02:29:07,355 --> 02:29:08,456
usually call. And if it is,

4597
02:29:08,456 --> 02:29:10,926
Ellen takes care of it like

4598
02:29:10,926 --> 02:29:12,727
that and off she goes. But they

4599
02:29:12,727 --> 02:29:14,162
don't do it. They wait to a

4600
02:29:14,162 --> 02:29:16,765
football game. They wait till

4601
02:29:16,765 --> 02:29:18,867
they see me out at soccer. So,

4602
02:29:18,867 --> 02:29:20,302
you know, it's important. I

4603
02:29:20,302 --> 02:29:23,902
know as a board we've talked

4604
02:29:24,500 --> 02:29:27,500
about this, about having, you

4605
02:29:28,210 --> 02:29:29,111
know, more kind of table talk

4606
02:29:29,111 --> 02:29:30,778
conversations and throughout

4607
02:29:30,778 --> 02:29:32,180
all districts during the next

4608
02:29:32,180 --> 02:29:34,580
year. And that's incredibly

4609
02:29:35,783 --> 02:29:37,953
important for me to.

4610
02:29:37,953 --> 02:29:39,855
Congratulations to our, our

4611
02:29:39,855 --> 02:29:41,523
school's tech textbook trends

4612
02:29:41,523 --> 02:29:44,523
and exceptions are down. So

4613
02:29:46,228 --> 02:29:47,296
that's incredibly important.

4614
02:29:47,296 --> 02:29:48,397
Facilities maintenance,

4615
02:29:48,397 --> 02:29:49,831
elevator service. I'm going to

4616
02:29:49,831 --> 02:29:52,334
talk about that when we talk

4617
02:29:52,334 --> 02:29:54,136
more about specific schools

4618
02:29:54,136 --> 02:29:56,672
coming up in the same and the

4619
02:29:56,672 --> 02:29:58,807
same answer. And if I'm not

4620
02:29:58,807 --> 02:29:59,908
here because I this is taking

4621
02:29:59,908 --> 02:30:01,342
long and it should take long

4622
02:30:01,342 --> 02:30:02,878
because this is extremely

4623
02:30:02,878 --> 02:30:04,246
important. I have to be in the

4624
02:30:04,246 --> 02:30:06,715
hospital this afternoon. So I

4625
02:30:06,715 --> 02:30:08,217
will be leaving at some point.

4626
02:30:08,217 --> 02:30:13,170
But I want to be on the record

4627
02:30:13,221 --> 02:30:16,825
for saying that. It would be a

4628
02:30:16,825 --> 02:30:19,328
travesty to not build Margate

4629
02:30:19,328 --> 02:30:22,328
Middle, a brand new school,

4630
02:30:22,931 --> 02:30:25,931
instead of continually doing a

4631
02:30:26,902 --> 02:30:29,471
very slow process like rip the

4632
02:30:29,471 --> 02:30:32,975
band aid off, make it safe,

4633
02:30:32,975 --> 02:30:34,409
make it less hazardous, make it

4634
02:30:34,409 --> 02:30:36,712
comfortable, do not put more

4635
02:30:36,712 --> 02:30:39,482
money into things that are just

4636
02:30:39,482 --> 02:30:42,830
going to delay the process. It

4637
02:30:42,830 --> 02:30:45,254
needs to be its own school. We

4638
02:30:45,254 --> 02:30:48,254
do not want to disenfranchize

4639
02:30:48,623 --> 02:30:50,920
people and I'm 100%. I know

4640
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:52,940
we're going to talk about it

4641
02:30:52,940 --> 02:30:54,229
later, and I believe our some

4642
02:30:54,229 --> 02:30:57,829
of our commissioners are in the

4643
02:30:57,867 --> 02:30:59,100
the other waiting room and

4644
02:30:59,100 --> 02:31:01,804
you'll hear from them later.

4645
02:31:01,804 --> 02:31:03,372
But if I'm not if I'm not here,

4646
02:31:03,372 --> 02:31:05,340
I'll hold on as long as I can

4647
02:31:05,340 --> 02:31:09,540
before I get. I would be late

4648
02:31:10,112 --> 02:31:12,112
getting there.

4649
02:31:14,783 --> 02:31:16,219
>> Okay.

4650
02:31:16,219 --> 02:31:17,887
>> We already talked about

4651
02:31:17,887 --> 02:31:19,788
educational testing. All right.

4652
02:31:19,788 --> 02:31:22,291
And then the last part was on

4653
02:31:22,291 --> 02:31:24,293
suicide prevention. Like I said,

4654
02:31:24,293 --> 02:31:25,660
I do town halls and we know in

4655
02:31:25,660 --> 02:31:28,431
every board member should know.

4656
02:31:28,431 --> 02:31:30,232
And we used to get a list of

4657
02:31:30,232 --> 02:31:32,401
how many we would get

4658
02:31:32,401 --> 02:31:34,203
notifications. I swear to you

4659
02:31:34,203 --> 02:31:35,304
when they happened, it's

4660
02:31:35,304 --> 02:31:36,939
important as a board member to

4661
02:31:36,939 --> 02:31:38,841
know that just happened in your

4662
02:31:38,841 --> 02:31:40,643
school. It's incredibly

4663
02:31:40,643 --> 02:31:43,643
important, not just because of

4664
02:31:44,346 --> 02:31:46,816
that student, but also suicide

4665
02:31:46,816 --> 02:31:48,251
ideations. My colleague over

4666
02:31:48,251 --> 02:31:51,187
here could talk way better than

4667
02:31:51,187 --> 02:31:53,289
that. I, I didn't have all the

4668
02:31:53,289 --> 02:31:55,580
tools to start those

4669
02:31:55,580 --> 02:31:56,159
conversations, but felt it was

4670
02:31:56,159 --> 02:31:57,393
important to start them. And

4671
02:31:57,393 --> 02:32:00,130
we've had them for several

4672
02:32:00,130 --> 02:32:02,530
years because district seven

4673
02:32:03,366 --> 02:32:06,966
has one of the highest suicide

4674
02:32:08,370 --> 02:32:09,138
rates, suicide rates. And as

4675
02:32:09,138 --> 02:32:12,138
every board member should be

4676
02:32:12,342 --> 02:32:14,143
able to ask our student

4677
02:32:14,143 --> 02:32:16,543
services and our suicide

4678
02:32:17,460 --> 02:32:18,615
prevention, they need to ask

4679
02:32:18,615 --> 02:32:19,849
what how is this district doing?

4680
02:32:19,849 --> 02:32:21,818
And then we need to take a look

4681
02:32:21,818 --> 02:32:24,254
at what is our whole district

4682
02:32:24,254 --> 02:32:26,822
look like? What are we doing to

4683
02:32:26,822 --> 02:32:30,422
stop another one? And one thing

4684
02:32:30,694 --> 02:32:32,829
that we do better now is not

4685
02:32:32,829 --> 02:32:35,229
just considering that that

4686
02:32:37,534 --> 02:32:39,702
child in isolation, but

4687
02:32:39,702 --> 02:32:42,102
treating that whole school,

4688
02:32:42,239 --> 02:32:44,808
that whole class and other

4689
02:32:44,808 --> 02:32:45,976
schools, that child who was

4690
02:32:45,976 --> 02:32:48,745
lost could have had a brother

4691
02:32:48,745 --> 02:32:50,579
and a sister in different

4692
02:32:50,579 --> 02:32:52,150
schools. So just talking to

4693
02:32:52,150 --> 02:32:54,484
that school and giving them

4694
02:32:54,484 --> 02:32:56,286
help, it, it's not a complete

4695
02:32:56,286 --> 02:32:59,189
answer. And as a district, we

4696
02:32:59,189 --> 02:33:02,392
do do that. And I really want

4697
02:33:02,392 --> 02:33:04,594
to stress that that department

4698
02:33:04,594 --> 02:33:07,463
does a remarkable job and we

4699
02:33:07,463 --> 02:33:10,700
need to do more. And I hope

4700
02:33:10,700 --> 02:33:14,237
whoever comes after me is able

4701
02:33:14,237 --> 02:33:16,839
to continue that process and

4702
02:33:16,839 --> 02:33:19,409
that mantle for the good of all,

4703
02:33:19,409 --> 02:33:20,978
all districts. And for that, I

4704
02:33:20,978 --> 02:33:22,613
thank you. And hopefully I will

4705
02:33:22,613 --> 02:33:24,481
be here when we get to the

4706
02:33:24,481 --> 02:33:25,115
other topics. But thank you so

4707
02:33:25,115 --> 02:33:25,849
much.

4708
02:33:25,849 --> 02:33:27,849
>> Thank you.

4709
02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:30,120
>> DR. Zeman thank you, chair.

4710
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:31,922
Unfortunately, she either

4711
02:33:31,922 --> 02:33:34,358
stepped out or left, but MISS

4712
02:33:34,358 --> 02:33:34,858
Board brought up something

4713
02:33:34,858 --> 02:33:36,459
>> That we've got some

4714
02:33:36,459 --> 02:33:37,494
interesting data on, and we

4715
02:33:37,494 --> 02:33:38,861
have an opportunity to do

4716
02:33:38,861 --> 02:33:40,530
something which I think would

4717
02:33:40,530 --> 02:33:41,664
be of universal value to

4718
02:33:41,664 --> 02:33:43,167
Broward County Public Schools,

4719
02:33:43,167 --> 02:33:44,534
which is to make a guarantee

4720
02:33:44,534 --> 02:33:47,371
that every elementary school in

4721
02:33:47,371 --> 02:33:50,274
Broward County have music, art,

4722
02:33:50,274 --> 02:33:52,809
recess, and, excuse me, music,

4723
02:33:52,809 --> 02:33:54,780
art, pe, and a full time

4724
02:33:54,780 --> 02:33:56,780
librarian. Every elementary

4725
02:33:57,448 --> 02:33:59,984
school we are 12 positions away.

4726
02:33:59,984 --> 02:34:03,584
We are anxious to hear back

4727
02:34:03,587 --> 02:34:05,421
from that. That line of inquiry.

4728
02:34:05,421 --> 02:34:07,558
12 when you have 24,000 staff

4729
02:34:07,558 --> 02:34:09,659
positions is a small number,

4730
02:34:09,659 --> 02:34:10,828
but it means a lot. You know,

4731
02:34:10,828 --> 02:34:12,629
there's a lot of things in

4732
02:34:12,629 --> 02:34:13,863
Broward County that we can say

4733
02:34:13,863 --> 02:34:15,865
about all of our schools. We

4734
02:34:15,865 --> 02:34:17,635
have 100% certified teachers.

4735
02:34:17,635 --> 02:34:19,403
We comply with state law. We

4736
02:34:19,403 --> 02:34:21,803
comply with Broward County

4737
02:34:21,939 --> 02:34:23,841
policies. We offer students one

4738
02:34:23,841 --> 02:34:25,276
on one laptop computers for

4739
02:34:25,276 --> 02:34:26,810
those that want it. Not

4740
02:34:26,810 --> 02:34:28,412
everyone. It doesn't get forced

4741
02:34:28,412 --> 02:34:30,812
on people, but they're

4742
02:34:30,981 --> 02:34:32,783
available. We operate in a

4743
02:34:32,783 --> 02:34:33,884
system of Florida State

4744
02:34:33,884 --> 02:34:36,119
standards, and we meet those

4745
02:34:36,119 --> 02:34:37,755
state standards. So and they're

4746
02:34:37,755 --> 02:34:39,257
going to go in a district that

4747
02:34:39,257 --> 02:34:40,758
is making heroic gains in

4748
02:34:40,758 --> 02:34:42,193
academic success. So there's a

4749
02:34:42,193 --> 02:34:43,227
lot of things we can say about

4750
02:34:43,227 --> 02:34:44,962
Broward County Public Schools

4751
02:34:44,962 --> 02:34:45,963
right now. We can't say, though,

4752
02:34:45,963 --> 02:34:47,640
that every elementary school

4753
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:48,999
child gets the specials that

4754
02:34:48,999 --> 02:34:50,368
they deserve. Unfortunately,

4755
02:34:50,368 --> 02:34:51,869
that is not something that gets

4756
02:34:51,869 --> 02:34:52,937
reported up in our budget that

4757
02:34:52,937 --> 02:34:54,806
the board reviews, but it's

4758
02:34:54,806 --> 02:34:55,906
something now that the board is

4759
02:34:55,906 --> 02:34:57,842
aware of, and I'm looking

4760
02:34:57,842 --> 02:34:59,430
forward to hearing back in the

4761
02:34:59,430 --> 02:35:00,845
next few weeks about whether or

4762
02:35:00,845 --> 02:35:03,381
not we can meet that standard.

4763
02:35:03,381 --> 02:35:04,781
But I'm confident that we will.

4764
02:35:04,781 --> 02:35:05,849
The second issue, which is

4765
02:35:05,849 --> 02:35:06,951
incredibly important, and I

4766
02:35:06,951 --> 02:35:08,951
appreciate, Cynthia, you

4767
02:35:10,955 --> 02:35:12,357
bringing this up. We have seen

4768
02:35:12,357 --> 02:35:13,458
numbers in mental health in

4769
02:35:13,458 --> 02:35:14,959
this country and in this

4770
02:35:14,959 --> 02:35:16,894
district that are staggering.

4771
02:35:16,894 --> 02:35:17,962
40% of children have teenagers

4772
02:35:17,962 --> 02:35:19,197
in the United States have

4773
02:35:19,197 --> 02:35:20,664
mental health illness.

4774
02:35:20,664 --> 02:35:21,399
>> Can you text.

4775
02:35:21,399 --> 02:35:23,399
>> Sometime during their

4776
02:35:23,801 --> 02:35:25,200
teenage years, 20% can tell you

4777
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:27,104
how they would take their life.

4778
02:35:27,104 --> 02:35:28,639
And 10% of American teenagers

4779
02:35:28,639 --> 02:35:31,390
in Broward, teenagers have

4780
02:35:31,509 --> 02:35:33,278
tried to take their life. Not

4781
02:35:33,278 --> 02:35:35,460
all suicides have suicide

4782
02:35:35,460 --> 02:35:36,881
ideation, but that that level

4783
02:35:36,881 --> 02:35:38,649
of numbers is staggering. We

4784
02:35:38,649 --> 02:35:41,152
have done some great research

4785
02:35:41,152 --> 02:35:42,954
as a school board on on what

4786
02:35:42,954 --> 02:35:44,789
gaps we have in mental health.

4787
02:35:44,789 --> 02:35:46,223
We have, over a year ago,

4788
02:35:46,223 --> 02:35:47,659
fenced all mental health

4789
02:35:47,659 --> 02:35:49,194
professionals and said all you

4790
02:35:49,194 --> 02:35:50,762
can be asked to do is mental

4791
02:35:50,762 --> 02:35:51,963
health. So you're not doing the

4792
02:35:51,963 --> 02:35:53,630
car line, you're not doing

4793
02:35:53,630 --> 02:35:54,465
lunch duty, you're not doing

4794
02:35:54,465 --> 02:35:56,600
assessment tests. You are

4795
02:35:56,600 --> 02:35:58,469
allowed full time to do mental

4796
02:35:58,469 --> 02:35:59,537
health. But we've also got a

4797
02:35:59,537 --> 02:36:00,939
report that's made it very

4798
02:36:00,939 --> 02:36:02,374
clear and it says our

4799
02:36:02,374 --> 02:36:03,508
superintendent, this is not an

4800
02:36:03,508 --> 02:36:04,476
issue between the board and the

4801
02:36:04,476 --> 02:36:06,611
superintendent. This is an

4802
02:36:06,611 --> 02:36:08,130
issue the board and the

4803
02:36:08,130 --> 02:36:09,114
superintendent, including his

4804
02:36:09,114 --> 02:36:10,180
specific comments that our

4805
02:36:10,180 --> 02:36:11,649
ratios of mental health

4806
02:36:11,649 --> 02:36:13,118
professionals, particularly

4807
02:36:13,118 --> 02:36:14,586
clinical mental health

4808
02:36:14,586 --> 02:36:16,387
professionals, social workers,

4809
02:36:16,387 --> 02:36:18,256
therapists, counselors that can

4810
02:36:18,256 --> 02:36:21,256
actually help students is out

4811
02:36:21,526 --> 02:36:23,162
of whack. We're probably 450 or

4812
02:36:23,162 --> 02:36:25,562
500 to one. The national

4813
02:36:25,663 --> 02:36:26,831
standard is 200 to 250. So

4814
02:36:26,831 --> 02:36:28,666
we're out of whack big time.

4815
02:36:28,666 --> 02:36:29,667
We're going to be doing that

4816
02:36:29,667 --> 02:36:31,469
work. And just doctor,

4817
02:36:31,469 --> 02:36:33,469
superintendent, doctor Hepburn,

4818
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:35,440
with all due respect, we are. I

4819
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:36,141
would just want to tell the

4820
02:36:36,141 --> 02:36:37,241
community that this is

4821
02:36:37,241 --> 02:36:39,143
something that we have not

4822
02:36:39,143 --> 02:36:40,846
solved yet. And I think is that

4823
02:36:40,846 --> 02:36:42,314
a reasonable conclusion that

4824
02:36:42,314 --> 02:36:44,782
you've come to as well?

4825
02:36:44,782 --> 02:36:46,180
>> Yes. Correct. You hit some

4826
02:36:46,180 --> 02:36:48,920
statistics on the head there.

4827
02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:50,555
As far as the ratio of mental

4828
02:36:50,555 --> 02:36:52,691
health service providers or

4829
02:36:52,691 --> 02:36:54,493
even school counselors to to

4830
02:36:54,493 --> 02:36:55,560
students is severely high,

4831
02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:57,396
especially for large school

4832
02:36:57,396 --> 02:36:58,897
districts versus, you know, the

4833
02:36:58,897 --> 02:37:00,299
nationwide average.

4834
02:37:00,299 --> 02:37:01,466
>> Terrific. And I think during

4835
02:37:01,466 --> 02:37:03,350
the budget process this summer

4836
02:37:03,350 --> 02:37:04,690
and again, the budget being a

4837
02:37:04,690 --> 02:37:05,703
statutory authority of the

4838
02:37:05,703 --> 02:37:07,839
board, we're going to see some

4839
02:37:07,839 --> 02:37:09,274
options about how we can move

4840
02:37:09,274 --> 02:37:10,275
forward, either with

4841
02:37:10,275 --> 02:37:11,477
recommendations we've got from

4842
02:37:11,477 --> 02:37:13,544
our staff and you, or we got

4843
02:37:13,544 --> 02:37:14,879
from folks that we've brought

4844
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:16,649
in to look at our thing. We're

4845
02:37:16,649 --> 02:37:17,749
going to see some options about

4846
02:37:17,749 --> 02:37:19,551
doing better on mental health

4847
02:37:19,551 --> 02:37:20,653
for next year. Is that correct?

4848
02:37:20,653 --> 02:37:21,754
Correct. Thank you very much.

4849
02:37:21,754 --> 02:37:23,522
The third thing, and this has

4850
02:37:23,522 --> 02:37:25,124
gathered a lot of attention

4851
02:37:25,124 --> 02:37:26,592
today, the process by which

4852
02:37:26,592 --> 02:37:27,927
we're going through policy

4853
02:37:27,927 --> 02:37:29,161
reviews from top to bottom. I

4854
02:37:29,161 --> 02:37:30,929
want to kind of ground us,

4855
02:37:30,929 --> 02:37:32,130
though, on a little bit about

4856
02:37:32,130 --> 02:37:34,330
reality in terms of what we're

4857
02:37:34,330 --> 02:37:35,234
going to end up with. We have

4858
02:37:35,234 --> 02:37:37,634
259 policies in Broward County

4859
02:37:37,769 --> 02:37:39,338
that cover 1700 pages. Some of

4860
02:37:39,338 --> 02:37:41,674
them were written 50 years ago,

4861
02:37:41,674 --> 02:37:43,750
some were 45 years ago. There's

4862
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:45,750
internal conflicts between

4863
02:37:45,811 --> 02:37:47,245
policies. There are policies

4864
02:37:47,245 --> 02:37:49,615
that are poorly written. There

4865
02:37:49,615 --> 02:37:52,615
are policies that have forms

4866
02:37:52,851 --> 02:37:54,620
jammed into them. Our general

4867
02:37:54,620 --> 02:37:56,789
counsel has made it very clear

4868
02:37:56,789 --> 02:37:58,223
that it is a risk for Broward

4869
02:37:58,223 --> 02:37:59,659
County to continue with the

4870
02:37:59,659 --> 02:38:00,893
current set of policies we've

4871
02:38:00,893 --> 02:38:02,361
had. She's explained that to

4872
02:38:02,361 --> 02:38:04,363
the public. She's explained it

4873
02:38:04,363 --> 02:38:07,633
to the board, and we have set a

4874
02:38:07,633 --> 02:38:08,667
pace to finish all 259 policies

4875
02:38:08,667 --> 02:38:10,360
rewritten. It will be hundreds

4876
02:38:10,360 --> 02:38:12,904
more because it'll make more

4877
02:38:12,904 --> 02:38:14,574
sense to chunk them as as is a

4878
02:38:14,574 --> 02:38:16,941
standard practice this year,

4879
02:38:16,941 --> 02:38:18,778
we've dedicated one Tuesday a

4880
02:38:18,778 --> 02:38:20,212
month to come and sit. We

4881
02:38:20,212 --> 02:38:21,780
welcome people to come and talk

4882
02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:23,480
about it. We welcome people to

4883
02:38:23,480 --> 02:38:25,584
look at our new policies, look

4884
02:38:25,584 --> 02:38:26,419
at the changes we've asked our

4885
02:38:26,419 --> 02:38:27,986
general counsel to be very

4886
02:38:27,986 --> 02:38:29,588
clear about what's in and

4887
02:38:29,588 --> 02:38:30,989
what's out and what was in this

4888
02:38:30,989 --> 02:38:32,191
policy number that's now in

4889
02:38:32,191 --> 02:38:33,993
there. In fact, we even asked

4890
02:38:33,993 --> 02:38:35,762
her last week, I think, MISS

4891
02:38:35,762 --> 02:38:37,497
Dupuy Bruno, we ended up saying

4892
02:38:37,497 --> 02:38:39,999
we're going to indicate at the

4893
02:38:39,999 --> 02:38:41,134
bottom what, what the former

4894
02:38:41,134 --> 02:38:42,201
policy number is of our new

4895
02:38:42,201 --> 02:38:44,370
policies, right? So that we

4896
02:38:44,370 --> 02:38:45,238
make sure that we have an

4897
02:38:45,238 --> 02:38:47,105
ability to go back and forth

4898
02:38:47,105 --> 02:38:48,274
for a couple of years so that

4899
02:38:48,274 --> 02:38:50,760
people don't get left behind.

4900
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:51,177
I'm actually worried about the

4901
02:38:51,177 --> 02:38:52,445
opposite case, which is if we

4902
02:38:52,445 --> 02:38:54,790
don't make changes, we're going

4903
02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:55,114
to continue to live with

4904
02:38:55,114 --> 02:38:56,549
policies that are substandard

4905
02:38:56,549 --> 02:38:58,852
and actually put this board in

4906
02:38:58,852 --> 02:39:00,119
this district at risk because

4907
02:39:00,119 --> 02:39:01,720
we tell people what forms to

4908
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:02,856
use, we tell them what

4909
02:39:02,856 --> 02:39:04,290
processes to use. We make it

4910
02:39:04,290 --> 02:39:05,325
incredibly difficult for people

4911
02:39:05,325 --> 02:39:06,859
to comply with the policies.

4912
02:39:06,859 --> 02:39:07,927
And what I'm worried about is

4913
02:39:07,927 --> 02:39:09,162
people ignore policies because

4914
02:39:09,162 --> 02:39:11,300
it's too complicated and it's

4915
02:39:11,300 --> 02:39:12,165
too prescriptive. So I'm really

4916
02:39:12,165 --> 02:39:14,234
in favor of doing this. I'm

4917
02:39:14,234 --> 02:39:14,968
very proud that this board has

4918
02:39:14,968 --> 02:39:17,700
accepted the challenge of

4919
02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:18,204
getting this done in 12 months,

4920
02:39:18,204 --> 02:39:20,206
because what you don't want to

4921
02:39:20,206 --> 02:39:22,750
do is take seven years to do it,

4922
02:39:22,750 --> 02:39:23,242
because then you have years and

4923
02:39:23,242 --> 02:39:25,780
years and years where you have

4924
02:39:25,780 --> 02:39:26,313
some of the old policies and

4925
02:39:26,313 --> 02:39:28,810
some of the new policies, and

4926
02:39:28,810 --> 02:39:29,249
you confuse the heck out of

4927
02:39:29,249 --> 02:39:31,117
your staff and you confuse the

4928
02:39:31,117 --> 02:39:32,252
heck out of the community. So

4929
02:39:32,252 --> 02:39:34,870
I'm proud that we're going to

4930
02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:36,890
do this. It's going to take a

4931
02:39:36,890 --> 02:39:37,157
lot of work of this board. It's

4932
02:39:37,157 --> 02:39:38,391
going to take, hopefully, a lot

4933
02:39:38,391 --> 02:39:40,293
of patience from the community

4934
02:39:40,293 --> 02:39:42,162
to to put in the time and the

4935
02:39:42,162 --> 02:39:44,970
effort to help us, you know,

4936
02:39:44,970 --> 02:39:45,232
make them as good as we can. I

4937
02:39:45,232 --> 02:39:46,199
recommend all advisory councils

4938
02:39:46,199 --> 02:39:47,266
stay abreast as they're

4939
02:39:47,266 --> 02:39:49,680
proposed. MISS Dupuy Bruno, to

4940
02:39:49,680 --> 02:39:52,668
my knowledge, when we did the

4941
02:39:54,107 --> 02:39:55,575
first public hearing workshop

4942
02:39:55,575 --> 02:39:57,343
last week, we still have one

4943
02:39:57,343 --> 02:39:58,445
more workshop and then these

4944
02:39:58,445 --> 02:39:59,545
policies come for decisions, am

4945
02:39:59,545 --> 02:40:00,981
I right? Are there three

4946
02:40:00,981 --> 02:40:02,820
meetings to review this policy?

4947
02:40:02,820 --> 02:40:03,850
>> Two two meetings.

4948
02:40:03,850 --> 02:40:05,985
>> So we do the. JUNE 8th.

4949
02:40:05,985 --> 02:40:07,888
>> Last week. And then the 23rd

4950
02:40:07,888 --> 02:40:08,522
is the public hearing where you

4951
02:40:08,522 --> 02:40:10,890
adopt dynamite.

4952
02:40:10,890 --> 02:40:11,391
>> And so we have time before

4953
02:40:11,391 --> 02:40:12,492
the 23rd to hear from the

4954
02:40:12,492 --> 02:40:14,892
communities. They're all out

4955
02:40:16,429 --> 02:40:17,631
there. They're available online.

4956
02:40:17,631 --> 02:40:19,633
We've announced this, we've

4957
02:40:19,633 --> 02:40:21,301
done a workshop, and we're

4958
02:40:21,301 --> 02:40:23,337
going to do a second one where

4959
02:40:23,337 --> 02:40:25,720
we adopt these policies. I

4960
02:40:25,720 --> 02:40:26,874
encourage people to think hard

4961
02:40:26,874 --> 02:40:28,942
about them. Policies are a big

4962
02:40:28,942 --> 02:40:30,943
deal, and we want to make sure

4963
02:40:30,943 --> 02:40:32,790
that we get them right. It is a

4964
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:33,146
lot of work, though, and the

4965
02:40:33,146 --> 02:40:35,820
board's committed to do this,

4966
02:40:35,820 --> 02:40:36,950
and I think it's a way to

4967
02:40:36,950 --> 02:40:40,187
minimize the risk and to move

4968
02:40:40,187 --> 02:40:40,921
forward with best speed.

4969
02:40:40,921 --> 02:40:42,388
>> I don't.

4970
02:40:42,388 --> 02:40:45,259
>> Want to do this. Understand.

4971
02:40:45,259 --> 02:40:47,394
>> I personally think that what

4972
02:40:47,394 --> 02:40:50,394
you are doing, organizing the

4973
02:40:50,998 --> 02:40:53,998
policies is good. But don't

4974
02:40:54,368 --> 02:40:55,668
don't ruin that by the manner

4975
02:40:55,668 --> 02:40:57,571
in which you're doing something.

4976
02:40:57,571 --> 02:41:00,700
I mean, you're picking a couple

4977
02:41:00,700 --> 02:41:01,809
of really important policies to

4978
02:41:01,809 --> 02:41:04,344
bring at a time when no one's

4979
02:41:04,344 --> 02:41:05,446
here. And I think that what the

4980
02:41:05,446 --> 02:41:07,348
process you're doing, you need

4981
02:41:07,348 --> 02:41:08,649
to do it. It's needed to be

4982
02:41:08,649 --> 02:41:10,784
done for years. I applaud you.

4983
02:41:10,784 --> 02:41:12,719
I thought we had kind of made

4984
02:41:12,719 --> 02:41:14,622
that clear that this it needs

4985
02:41:14,622 --> 02:41:16,189
to be done and we support it

4986
02:41:16,189 --> 02:41:17,258
being done. However, we support

4987
02:41:17,258 --> 02:41:18,492
it being done with the

4988
02:41:18,492 --> 02:41:20,861
inclusion of conversation with

4989
02:41:20,861 --> 02:41:22,329
the community. And in this case,

4990
02:41:22,329 --> 02:41:23,931
you're voting on some major

4991
02:41:23,931 --> 02:41:25,599
things next week, two weeks

4992
02:41:25,599 --> 02:41:28,680
after you had a workshop. And

4993
02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:30,271
all of this is occurring when

4994
02:41:30,271 --> 02:41:31,405
parents are not here and

4995
02:41:31,405 --> 02:41:34,275
community members are not here.

4996
02:41:34,275 --> 02:41:36,177
And I think just the look of

4997
02:41:36,177 --> 02:41:37,444
that is not good. I just wanted

4998
02:41:37,444 --> 02:41:39,580
to clarify, I don't think

4999
02:41:39,580 --> 02:41:41,782
anyone has been critical of the

5000
02:41:41,782 --> 02:41:43,250
fact that you are reviewing and

5001
02:41:43,250 --> 02:41:45,190
organizing policies.

5002
02:41:45,190 --> 02:41:46,386
>> And I and I appreciate that.

5003
02:41:46,386 --> 02:41:47,555
>> And see, even you didn't

5004
02:41:47,555 --> 02:41:49,560
know that there weren't two

5005
02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:50,691
workshops because I thought it

5006
02:41:50,691 --> 02:41:51,158
was going to come. And after

5007
02:41:51,158 --> 02:41:52,926
like.

5008
02:41:52,926 --> 02:41:53,928
>> I was actually counting the

5009
02:41:53,928 --> 02:41:55,950
notification and then the

5010
02:41:55,950 --> 02:41:57,698
workshop and then and then the

5011
02:41:57,698 --> 02:41:59,367
decision. So I was in my mind,

5012
02:41:59,367 --> 02:42:00,534
there were three hops, but two

5013
02:42:00,534 --> 02:42:01,569
of them were actually public

5014
02:42:01,569 --> 02:42:03,538
meetings. And I appreciate the

5015
02:42:03,538 --> 02:42:05,505
distinction. And I appreciate,

5016
02:42:05,505 --> 02:42:06,608
you know, also kind of

5017
02:42:06,608 --> 02:42:09,770
identification of the risk of

5018
02:42:09,770 --> 02:42:12,770
living with policies and the

5019
02:42:13,815 --> 02:42:15,116
like. So I, I hear you and I

5020
02:42:15,116 --> 02:42:16,384
understand, you know, kind of

5021
02:42:16,384 --> 02:42:18,419
the speed is new. This board

5022
02:42:18,419 --> 02:42:19,620
has never, you know, moved at

5023
02:42:19,620 --> 02:42:21,656
the speed that we're moving at

5024
02:42:21,656 --> 02:42:22,890
these things. And we still have

5025
02:42:22,890 --> 02:42:24,726
a lot of policies left to go.

5026
02:42:24,726 --> 02:42:25,860
So I just encourage people to

5027
02:42:25,860 --> 02:42:27,762
read them. Get get us your

5028
02:42:27,762 --> 02:42:28,963
comments, make sure that we are

5029
02:42:28,963 --> 02:42:30,798
aware of them. For those people

5030
02:42:30,798 --> 02:42:32,666
that are in town, Mary, and for

5031
02:42:32,666 --> 02:42:34,200
the people that that want to

5032
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:35,669
participate. The last point and

5033
02:42:35,669 --> 02:42:37,905
MISS Leonardi and I have talked

5034
02:42:37,905 --> 02:42:41,505
about this a lot, and there's

5035
02:42:41,876 --> 02:42:44,112
issues related to data

5036
02:42:44,112 --> 02:42:46,512
retention. Doctor Hepburn, do

5037
02:42:46,915 --> 02:42:48,160
you know whether or not the

5038
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:48,917
contracts we have for

5039
02:42:48,917 --> 02:42:50,418
supplemental software companies

5040
02:42:50,418 --> 02:42:54,180
and other companies, do we have

5041
02:42:54,856 --> 02:42:56,240
a zero data retention policy?

5042
02:42:56,240 --> 02:42:56,992
>> Expound a little bit zero

5043
02:42:56,992 --> 02:42:58,992
data retention.

5044
02:42:59,527 --> 02:43:01,329
>> So z is kind of a national

5045
02:43:01,329 --> 02:43:03,498
standard where a software

5046
02:43:03,498 --> 02:43:04,733
company promises that the

5047
02:43:04,733 --> 02:43:07,133
interaction with your students,

5048
02:43:08,169 --> 02:43:09,504
for example, is never mind for

5049
02:43:09,504 --> 02:43:10,704
advertisers or for their, you

5050
02:43:10,704 --> 02:43:12,400
know, extensions and things

5051
02:43:12,400 --> 02:43:14,643
like that. But basically, you

5052
02:43:14,643 --> 02:43:16,110
can think about it as a

5053
02:43:16,110 --> 02:43:18,110
student's interacting with

5054
02:43:18,279 --> 02:43:19,314
something on canvas or clever.

5055
02:43:19,314 --> 02:43:21,714
They're having that interaction

5056
02:43:22,217 --> 02:43:23,651
when they're done, the

5057
02:43:23,651 --> 02:43:25,860
experience can be summarized

5058
02:43:25,860 --> 02:43:26,621
and sent to the vendor so that

5059
02:43:26,621 --> 02:43:28,657
they can make the product

5060
02:43:28,657 --> 02:43:30,826
better. But as soon as the, the,

5061
02:43:30,826 --> 02:43:32,293
the computer is turned off,

5062
02:43:32,293 --> 02:43:33,495
that data is never permanently

5063
02:43:33,495 --> 02:43:35,430
stored by a vendor. Do you know

5064
02:43:35,430 --> 02:43:36,965
if we do that yet in our

5065
02:43:36,965 --> 02:43:38,499
contracts for software vendors?

5066
02:43:38,499 --> 02:43:41,603
>> Yeah. So it sounds like more

5067
02:43:41,603 --> 02:43:43,105
about privacy and the they need

5068
02:43:43,105 --> 02:43:45,607
permission to actually use the

5069
02:43:45,607 --> 02:43:47,376
data for any other action

5070
02:43:47,376 --> 02:43:48,877
besides for the vendor or for

5071
02:43:48,877 --> 02:43:50,679
the district. My assumption is,

5072
02:43:50,679 --> 02:43:53,679
is yes, that's pretty tight,

5073
02:43:54,583 --> 02:43:55,784
but I'll lean in on the gc or

5074
02:43:55,784 --> 02:43:57,819
even MISS Jacque Adams because

5075
02:43:57,819 --> 02:43:58,554
she does a lot of our contract

5076
02:43:58,554 --> 02:43:59,922
negotiations.

5077
02:43:59,922 --> 02:44:01,560
>> Yes. I'm going to defer that

5078
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:02,458
to MISS Jack Adams because

5079
02:44:02,458 --> 02:44:05,427
she's very familiar with that

5080
02:44:05,427 --> 02:44:07,162
language.

5081
02:44:07,162 --> 02:44:09,562
>> Hello. So within our

5082
02:44:10,765 --> 02:44:12,968
contracts we have very specific

5083
02:44:12,968 --> 02:44:16,205
data that we allow for very

5084
02:44:16,205 --> 02:44:17,373
specific purposes. So those

5085
02:44:17,373 --> 02:44:19,208
data cannot be used for any

5086
02:44:19,208 --> 02:44:19,808
other purpose than is listed in

5087
02:44:19,808 --> 02:44:21,343
the contract.

5088
02:44:21,343 --> 02:44:22,811
>> Yeah. Terrific. So just if

5089
02:44:22,811 --> 02:44:24,413
you don't mind Doctor Hepburn

5090
02:44:24,413 --> 02:44:26,315
as a follow on, could you could

5091
02:44:26,315 --> 02:44:27,483
you let us know whether or not

5092
02:44:27,483 --> 02:44:29,451
our contracts have a standard

5093
02:44:29,451 --> 02:44:32,451
clause on zero data retention.

5094
02:44:33,988 --> 02:44:35,157
And and to a process point,

5095
02:44:35,157 --> 02:44:37,493
which I think is very important

5096
02:44:37,493 --> 02:44:38,894
as well, is right now, to my

5097
02:44:38,894 --> 02:44:40,629
understanding, we ask parents

5098
02:44:40,629 --> 02:44:42,465
once a year whether or not they

5099
02:44:42,465 --> 02:44:44,633
participate, MISS Jack Adams on

5100
02:44:44,633 --> 02:44:46,569
on allowing their data to be

5101
02:44:46,569 --> 02:44:48,204
shared with vendors. Is it once

5102
02:44:48,204 --> 02:44:51,440
per year or is it once per

5103
02:44:51,440 --> 02:44:53,440
software application?

5104
02:44:53,442 --> 02:44:54,443
>> And I want to make sure that

5105
02:44:54,443 --> 02:44:55,578
I understand your question.

5106
02:44:55,578 --> 02:44:56,812
Within our contract, we do not

5107
02:44:56,812 --> 02:44:59,812
have any language with regards

5108
02:45:01,550 --> 02:45:04,550
to data retention within the

5109
02:45:05,221 --> 02:45:06,756
software of the vendor. At the

5110
02:45:06,756 --> 02:45:09,258
end of the at the expiration of

5111
02:45:09,258 --> 02:45:10,960
the contract, any all data

5112
02:45:10,960 --> 02:45:12,328
needs to be returned back to us.

5113
02:45:12,328 --> 02:45:14,797
So there's no data that is

5114
02:45:14,797 --> 02:45:16,299
being retained. And there was

5115
02:45:16,299 --> 02:45:17,967
another part of your question I

5116
02:45:17,967 --> 02:45:19,569
don't think I fully understood.

5117
02:45:19,569 --> 02:45:21,370
>> So one, if there's no data

5118
02:45:21,370 --> 02:45:22,805
retention policy in our current

5119
02:45:22,805 --> 02:45:24,240
contracts, that's fine. I would

5120
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:26,676
just change my question, Doctor

5121
02:45:26,676 --> 02:45:27,843
Hepburn, to ask, do we want to

5122
02:45:27,843 --> 02:45:30,713
think about that going forward?

5123
02:45:30,713 --> 02:45:32,215
Because I for one, don't think

5124
02:45:32,215 --> 02:45:33,649
software companies should have

5125
02:45:33,649 --> 02:45:35,418
the data available for our

5126
02:45:35,418 --> 02:45:37,219
students. And I also don't like

5127
02:45:37,219 --> 02:45:38,987
if this is the case, I don't

5128
02:45:38,987 --> 02:45:40,757
like asking once a year for

5129
02:45:40,757 --> 02:45:41,957
every software package in the

5130
02:45:41,957 --> 02:45:44,957
world on whether a student's

5131
02:45:45,127 --> 02:45:46,228
going to opt out of it. I. I

5132
02:45:46,228 --> 02:45:47,296
would advocate for somomhing

5133
02:45:47,296 --> 02:45:48,464
differenenthan that. And I I

5134
02:45:48,464 --> 02:45:49,465
would j jt t k yououDoctor

5135
02:45:49,465 --> 02:45:51,865
Heurn, whatt optionso o

5136
02:45:52,100 --> 02:45:53,680
havebobo d dat Datatabobout

5137
02:45:53,680 --> 02:45:54,170
partipipation in your own

5138
02:45:54,170 --> 02:45:56,570
individual data being shared

5139
02:45:57,600 --> 02:45:58,875
with companies on a on a

5140
02:45:58,875 --> 02:46:01,444
software by software basis? I

5141
02:46:01,444 --> 02:46:02,812
just feel like once a year is,

5142
02:46:02,812 --> 02:46:04,614
and maybe this is one of.

5143
02:46:04,614 --> 02:46:05,682
Doctor. MR. Cervera earlier

5144
02:46:05,682 --> 02:46:07,450
points, you know, parents

5145
02:46:07,450 --> 02:46:08,550
should have the rights to

5146
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:09,986
decide whether or not their

5147
02:46:09,986 --> 02:46:11,488
data and their students data is

5148
02:46:11,488 --> 02:46:13,188
shared with vendors. But if

5149
02:46:13,188 --> 02:46:15,580
they just do it once a year as

5150
02:46:15,580 --> 02:46:16,226
part of the student code of

5151
02:46:16,226 --> 02:46:18,270
conduct, I don't think that's a

5152
02:46:18,270 --> 02:46:19,620
I don't think that's like a

5153
02:46:19,620 --> 02:46:20,263
really fair relationship with

5154
02:46:20,263 --> 02:46:22,310
parents. I think we should ask

5155
02:46:22,310 --> 02:46:23,266
them in a different way, and

5156
02:46:23,266 --> 02:46:25,135
I'd leave it to you to think

5157
02:46:25,135 --> 02:46:27,237
about some options and get back

5158
02:46:27,237 --> 02:46:29,710
to the board. Last point about

5159
02:46:29,710 --> 02:46:30,707
screen time. I cannot wait to

5160
02:46:30,707 --> 02:46:32,275
talk a lot about that. You know,

5161
02:46:32,275 --> 02:46:33,843
to Lily's point, you know, yes,

5162
02:46:33,843 --> 02:46:37,380
we have to prepare kids to live

5163
02:46:37,380 --> 02:46:38,882
in a digital world. No, tons of

5164
02:46:38,882 --> 02:46:40,784
bad kinds of screen time is not

5165
02:46:40,784 --> 02:46:41,885
good for them. And we have to

5166
02:46:41,885 --> 02:46:43,190
be careful. And what's

5167
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:44,721
difficult for a school district,

5168
02:46:44,721 --> 02:46:46,323
not just Broward, is that we

5169
02:46:46,323 --> 02:46:48,458
tend to buy products one at a

5170
02:46:48,458 --> 02:46:50,293
time. We we have great intent

5171
02:46:50,293 --> 02:46:51,695
for all of them. And then

5172
02:46:51,695 --> 02:46:52,929
sometimes, like we did with

5173
02:46:52,929 --> 02:46:54,598
tests and assessment this year,

5174
02:46:54,598 --> 02:46:56,533
we look at them and the board

5175
02:46:56,533 --> 02:46:57,867
says, that's too much. You know,

5176
02:46:57,867 --> 02:47:00,690
bring us an option for cutting

5177
02:47:00,690 --> 02:47:01,438
in half. The same is also true

5178
02:47:01,438 --> 02:47:02,573
of software. You can get

5179
02:47:02,573 --> 02:47:03,439
software and instructional

5180
02:47:03,439 --> 02:47:05,876
methods and things that by the

5181
02:47:05,876 --> 02:47:07,543
time you look at it, a student

5182
02:47:07,543 --> 02:47:08,579
could be on it so much that

5183
02:47:08,579 --> 02:47:09,713
it's actually impinging them. I

5184
02:47:09,713 --> 02:47:11,448
think it's a false choice

5185
02:47:11,448 --> 02:47:12,649
between software and cursive. I

5186
02:47:12,649 --> 02:47:14,484
think we can teach cursive and

5187
02:47:14,484 --> 02:47:15,485
we can teach keyboards, and we

5188
02:47:15,485 --> 02:47:16,719
can teach computer coding, and

5189
02:47:16,719 --> 02:47:19,890
we can teach vibe coding. And

5190
02:47:19,890 --> 02:47:20,924
ai is not the devil. It's scary

5191
02:47:20,924 --> 02:47:22,292
sometimes, but there's a lot of

5192
02:47:22,292 --> 02:47:23,794
positive sides to ai as well.

5193
02:47:23,794 --> 02:47:25,662
And we do have to prepare

5194
02:47:25,662 --> 02:47:26,797
people to live not only in a

5195
02:47:26,797 --> 02:47:28,732
digital world, but we have to

5196
02:47:28,732 --> 02:47:30,267
prepare them to live in an ai

5197
02:47:30,267 --> 02:47:31,368
economy. And there's

5198
02:47:31,368 --> 02:47:32,402
competencies for that. There's

5199
02:47:32,402 --> 02:47:33,537
there's things like critical

5200
02:47:33,537 --> 02:47:35,506
reasoning and logic that you

5201
02:47:35,506 --> 02:47:36,639
have to have in order to really

5202
02:47:36,639 --> 02:47:38,508
be effective in the ai world

5203
02:47:38,508 --> 02:47:39,543
and the ai economy. So that

5204
02:47:39,543 --> 02:47:40,577
debate is going to be

5205
02:47:40,577 --> 02:47:41,712
interesting, but it's very

5206
02:47:41,712 --> 02:47:43,546
someone used the word nuanced

5207
02:47:43,546 --> 02:47:45,482
earlier. I'm not sure if it was

5208
02:47:45,482 --> 02:47:46,984
you or someone else, but it is

5209
02:47:46,984 --> 02:47:48,919
a complicated puzzle, and we

5210
02:47:48,919 --> 02:47:50,854
got to figure out the right way

5211
02:47:50,854 --> 02:47:52,890
to do this as a system, not

5212
02:47:52,890 --> 02:47:54,910
just do it, you know, one label

5213
02:47:54,910 --> 02:47:55,927
at a time. So I look forward to

5214
02:47:55,927 --> 02:47:56,827
that chair. Thank you very much.

5215
02:47:56,827 --> 02:47:58,295
>> Thank you.

5216
02:47:58,295 --> 02:48:00,464
>> DR. Holness thank you, MADAM

5217
02:48:00,464 --> 02:48:03,464
Chair. First, I'd like to

5218
02:48:03,768 --> 02:48:04,802
commend Lily. You certainly

5219
02:48:04,802 --> 02:48:06,570
eloquently shared your concerns

5220
02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:08,380
regarding technology. I

5221
02:48:08,380 --> 02:48:09,473
actually had some similar

5222
02:48:09,473 --> 02:48:11,275
points, but you've worded it so

5223
02:48:11,275 --> 02:48:12,910
well that I don't have to go

5224
02:48:12,910 --> 02:48:14,545
into my point. So you certainly

5225
02:48:14,545 --> 02:48:17,381
hit the ground running, right?

5226
02:48:17,381 --> 02:48:20,381
As our new student advisor,

5227
02:48:21,719 --> 02:48:24,719
Doctor Hepburn, can you repeat

5228
02:48:25,356 --> 02:48:26,824
the direction given to you by

5229
02:48:26,824 --> 02:48:29,259
board member Cervera in terms

5230
02:48:29,259 --> 02:48:31,259
of technology?

5231
02:48:35,366 --> 02:48:36,834
>> Yes. So a follow up about

5232
02:48:36,834 --> 02:48:38,269
technology opting out of

5233
02:48:38,269 --> 02:48:40,104
technology. What's the current

5234
02:48:40,104 --> 02:48:42,607
opt out policy based on

5235
02:48:42,607 --> 02:48:43,807
parental rights laws? Is it is

5236
02:48:43,807 --> 02:48:45,576
there a current policy? What

5237
02:48:45,576 --> 02:48:47,645
are state required resources as

5238
02:48:47,645 --> 02:48:48,779
some additional stuff for

5239
02:48:48,779 --> 02:48:51,282
information as well. What are

5240
02:48:51,282 --> 02:48:52,349
our state required resources or

5241
02:48:52,349 --> 02:48:54,151
assessments that are available

5242
02:48:54,151 --> 02:48:56,955
only in technology? Are there

5243
02:48:56,955 --> 02:48:59,557
options to opt out of those

5244
02:48:59,557 --> 02:49:01,292
required state resources or

5245
02:49:01,292 --> 02:49:03,692
assessments that are technology

5246
02:49:05,629 --> 02:49:07,300
based to utilize paper, such as

5247
02:49:07,300 --> 02:49:08,533
utilizing paper assessments?

5248
02:49:08,533 --> 02:49:10,933
>> Okay, so Doctor Hepburn,

5249
02:49:12,136 --> 02:49:14,238
would it be too much to also

5250
02:49:14,238 --> 02:49:16,808
provide information in terms of

5251
02:49:16,808 --> 02:49:18,609
the full scope of impact on

5252
02:49:18,609 --> 02:49:20,609
students? Should teachers

5253
02:49:20,812 --> 02:49:24,382
choose not to use technology in

5254
02:49:24,382 --> 02:49:26,484
the classroom or potential

5255
02:49:26,484 --> 02:49:28,484
impact?

5256
02:49:28,653 --> 02:49:30,722
>> I can we can add about

5257
02:49:30,722 --> 02:49:31,823
impact of what we do and what

5258
02:49:31,823 --> 02:49:33,691
we're our intentions of what

5259
02:49:33,691 --> 02:49:36,910
we're preparing students for.

5260
02:49:37,610 --> 02:49:39,898
As far as you know, Lily said

5261
02:49:39,898 --> 02:49:40,932
it beautifully about her

5262
02:49:40,932 --> 02:49:42,133
expectations and going into the

5263
02:49:42,133 --> 02:49:43,868
workforce in the future. Right?

5264
02:49:43,868 --> 02:49:44,936
So that's, you know, kind of

5265
02:49:44,936 --> 02:49:47,936
individual per student, but we

5266
02:49:48,839 --> 02:49:49,908
can discuss what impacts of not

5267
02:49:49,908 --> 02:49:51,108
utilizing certain certain

5268
02:49:51,108 --> 02:49:52,444
technology resources MAY have

5269
02:49:52,444 --> 02:49:54,579
on students and their

5270
02:49:54,579 --> 02:49:56,579
preparedness for curriculum.

5271
02:49:57,820 --> 02:50:00,820
>> Understand. So, you know, my

5272
02:50:00,452 --> 02:50:03,522
position on this and, you know,

5273
02:50:03,522 --> 02:50:06,124
I, I believe Lily said it so

5274
02:50:06,124 --> 02:50:09,361
well, is that should a teacher

5275
02:50:09,361 --> 02:50:11,863
or teachers choose not to use

5276
02:50:11,863 --> 02:50:14,432
technology in the classroom at

5277
02:50:14,432 --> 02:50:16,601
all, I think this would result

5278
02:50:16,601 --> 02:50:18,369
in a total paralysis of a

5279
02:50:18,369 --> 02:50:20,872
generation of students to be

5280
02:50:20,872 --> 02:50:23,740
able to compete globally and

5281
02:50:23,740 --> 02:50:25,474
nationally in an environment

5282
02:50:25,910 --> 02:50:27,813
where increasing dependance on

5283
02:50:27,813 --> 02:50:29,513
technology is so prevalent. In

5284
02:50:29,513 --> 02:50:31,984
fact, I think it would be a

5285
02:50:31,984 --> 02:50:34,384
disservice, probably even more,

5286
02:50:34,519 --> 02:50:36,321
of an academic tragedy to our

5287
02:50:36,321 --> 02:50:39,290
students. And it would set them

5288
02:50:39,290 --> 02:50:40,692
back. You know, if I were to

5289
02:50:40,692 --> 02:50:43,562
figuratively put this, I would

5290
02:50:43,562 --> 02:50:46,980
say it's almost like breaking

5291
02:50:46,980 --> 02:50:47,899
someone's arms and say, go play

5292
02:50:47,899 --> 02:50:50,102
baseball. They won't be able to

5293
02:50:50,102 --> 02:50:51,469
compete. They won't be able to

5294
02:50:51,469 --> 02:50:54,469
compete with a whole generation

5295
02:50:55,774 --> 02:50:57,643
of kids, adults globally. And

5296
02:50:57,643 --> 02:51:00,145
it's going to be significantly

5297
02:51:00,145 --> 02:51:02,545
impactful. Now, while teachers

5298
02:51:03,482 --> 02:51:05,617
MAY have autonomy, as a past

5299
02:51:05,617 --> 02:51:08,190
teacher, I can tell you we have

5300
02:51:08,190 --> 02:51:09,821
an obligation to prepare

5301
02:51:09,821 --> 02:51:12,124
students to be nationally and

5302
02:51:12,124 --> 02:51:14,124
globally competitive. That's

5303
02:51:15,594 --> 02:51:17,796
part of our obligation. And if

5304
02:51:17,796 --> 02:51:19,532
we do anything to inhibit that,

5305
02:51:19,532 --> 02:51:21,700
I think we are doing a

5306
02:51:21,700 --> 02:51:23,536
disservice to our students. So

5307
02:51:23,536 --> 02:51:25,371
there must be a balance to

5308
02:51:25,371 --> 02:51:27,839
ensure that our students is

5309
02:51:27,839 --> 02:51:29,275
able to survive in an

5310
02:51:29,275 --> 02:51:31,275
increasingly competitive

5311
02:51:33,245 --> 02:51:35,380
society based on technology.

5312
02:51:35,380 --> 02:51:38,217
And I could even go further. I

5313
02:51:38,217 --> 02:51:39,385
remember in and Lily, you MAY

5314
02:51:39,385 --> 02:51:43,585
not know this, but there was a

5315
02:51:44,560 --> 02:51:45,825
time when we we had no cell

5316
02:51:45,825 --> 02:51:48,361
phones, right? There was a time

5317
02:51:48,361 --> 02:51:49,828
when, when we when we had

5318
02:51:49,828 --> 02:51:50,896
eventually we had beepers. So

5319
02:51:50,896 --> 02:51:52,630
someone would beep you and you

5320
02:51:52,630 --> 02:51:54,533
come off the road and you find

5321
02:51:54,533 --> 02:51:55,901
a payphone, and then you go

5322
02:51:55,901 --> 02:51:57,469
make a call. And then

5323
02:51:57,469 --> 02:51:59,204
eventually, eventually they

5324
02:51:59,204 --> 02:52:01,106
come up with a phone, portable

5325
02:52:01,106 --> 02:52:03,142
phone that was about 2 to 3

5326
02:52:03,142 --> 02:52:05,110
pounds heavy. I had one of them

5327
02:52:05,110 --> 02:52:06,712
in my car, and then eventually

5328
02:52:06,712 --> 02:52:07,847
we had cell phones. So I've

5329
02:52:07,847 --> 02:52:09,649
been through that transition.

5330
02:52:09,649 --> 02:52:10,816
But imagine a company trying to

5331
02:52:10,816 --> 02:52:12,518
be competitive to say, let's

5332
02:52:12,518 --> 02:52:13,619
take away all the cell phones

5333
02:52:13,619 --> 02:52:14,787
for our employees, and let's

5334
02:52:14,787 --> 02:52:16,622
give them all beepers and go

5335
02:52:16,622 --> 02:52:18,624
back to where we were. You'd

5336
02:52:18,624 --> 02:52:21,160
never be able to compete. You

5337
02:52:21,160 --> 02:52:22,594
know, it's, it's good to have

5338
02:52:22,594 --> 02:52:24,290
thoughts about what it was like,

5339
02:52:24,290 --> 02:52:26,199
but it's also important to

5340
02:52:26,199 --> 02:52:29,100
adapt to what it is in a very

5341
02:52:29,100 --> 02:52:30,136
careful way so we can ensure

5342
02:52:30,136 --> 02:52:32,536
that our students are

5343
02:52:32,939 --> 02:52:34,939
successful. Doctor Hepburn,

5344
02:52:37,677 --> 02:52:39,912
regarding cursive writing, what

5345
02:52:39,912 --> 02:52:42,415
are other major districts doing

5346
02:52:42,415 --> 02:52:43,483
in terms of emphasis on cursive

5347
02:52:43,483 --> 02:52:45,483
writing?

5348
02:52:45,485 --> 02:52:46,486
>> I'm not aware. I have to do

5349
02:52:46,486 --> 02:52:48,488
some research with other

5350
02:52:48,488 --> 02:52:50,256
districts. I know you know,

5351
02:52:50,256 --> 02:52:51,558
it's embedded in some grade

5352
02:52:51,558 --> 02:52:53,159
levels in elementary school,

5353
02:52:53,159 --> 02:52:54,394
but the state just did a

5354
02:52:54,394 --> 02:52:55,729
mandate. So I'm assuming that

5355
02:52:55,729 --> 02:52:57,960
all districts across the state

5356
02:52:57,960 --> 02:52:58,364
will be ensuring that it's

5357
02:52:58,364 --> 02:52:58,998
included across the board in

5358
02:52:58,998 --> 02:53:00,998
curriculum.

5359
02:53:01,433 --> 02:53:03,336
>> Okay. Can you provide any

5360
02:53:03,336 --> 02:53:06,872
input on why we had strayed

5361
02:53:06,872 --> 02:53:08,474
away from this?

5362
02:53:08,474 --> 02:53:10,209
>> I, as far as straight away,

5363
02:53:10,209 --> 02:53:12,311
is still being taught. Doctor

5364
02:53:12,311 --> 02:53:14,800
Cole mentioned in third grade,

5365
02:53:14,800 --> 02:53:16,916
so it hasn't been straight away.

5366
02:53:16,916 --> 02:53:18,818
I don't think over time. I just,

5367
02:53:18,818 --> 02:53:20,152
you know, anecdotally over time,

5368
02:53:20,152 --> 02:53:21,320
just the advancement of

5369
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:22,689
technology laptops and, you

5370
02:53:22,689 --> 02:53:24,124
know, moving away from

5371
02:53:24,124 --> 02:53:25,190
typewriters and utilizing

5372
02:53:25,190 --> 02:53:26,292
computers for more word

5373
02:53:26,292 --> 02:53:28,862
processing and things like that.

5374
02:53:28,862 --> 02:53:30,263
So and also the acts of

5375
02:53:30,263 --> 02:53:32,650
students, be it k through 12

5376
02:53:32,650 --> 02:53:33,499
and post-secondary to turn in

5377
02:53:33,499 --> 02:53:34,601
documents electronically versus

5378
02:53:34,601 --> 02:53:36,350
turning in and turning in

5379
02:53:36,350 --> 02:53:37,704
documents handwritten. So I

5380
02:53:37,704 --> 02:53:40,390
think that's why you see the

5381
02:53:40,390 --> 02:53:41,808
stray away totally from just

5382
02:53:41,808 --> 02:53:42,142
turning in documents that were

5383
02:53:42,142 --> 02:53:42,475
handwritten.

5384
02:53:42,475 --> 02:53:44,277
>> Understand?

5385
02:53:44,277 --> 02:53:46,413
>> I'm a kid who actually did

5386
02:53:46,413 --> 02:53:46,779
shorthand as well too in school.

5387
02:53:46,779 --> 02:53:48,682
So.

5388
02:53:48,682 --> 02:53:51,118
>> Well, I can tell you I was

5389
02:53:51,118 --> 02:53:53,253
very happy when emphasis when

5390
02:53:53,253 --> 02:53:54,321
Microsoft Word took over

5391
02:53:54,321 --> 02:53:55,489
because I didn't have the

5392
02:53:55,489 --> 02:53:56,623
greatest handwriting. So it was

5393
02:53:56,623 --> 02:53:58,692
really an awesome thing that

5394
02:53:58,692 --> 02:54:01,929
they did. But how important is

5395
02:54:01,929 --> 02:54:03,597
this skill in competing in all

5396
02:54:03,597 --> 02:54:06,232
sectors of the job market to be

5397
02:54:06,232 --> 02:54:08,340
able to have cursive writing is

5398
02:54:08,340 --> 02:54:09,469
from from your knowledge, is it

5399
02:54:09,469 --> 02:54:11,771
important? Is it an important

5400
02:54:11,771 --> 02:54:14,508
skill to be able to compete, or

5401
02:54:14,508 --> 02:54:15,609
is it a luxury to have?

5402
02:54:15,609 --> 02:54:16,709
>> Anecdotally, from my

5403
02:54:16,709 --> 02:54:18,212
discussion with business

5404
02:54:18,212 --> 02:54:19,947
leaders, is a luxury to have.

5405
02:54:19,947 --> 02:54:20,980
They're not talking to me about

5406
02:54:20,980 --> 02:54:22,216
cursive writing. They're

5407
02:54:22,216 --> 02:54:24,618
talking to me about specific

5408
02:54:24,618 --> 02:54:26,853
skill sets for their industry

5409
02:54:26,853 --> 02:54:28,188
and also soft skills to. Those

5410
02:54:28,188 --> 02:54:29,989
are the two points soft skills

5411
02:54:29,989 --> 02:54:31,425
with students being able to

5412
02:54:31,425 --> 02:54:32,926
follow through onnitiatives,

5413
02:54:32,926 --> 02:54:35,280
shake a hand, look somebody in

5414
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:37,331
eye speak and advocate for what

5415
02:54:37,331 --> 02:54:38,999
you need and speak boldly. And

5416
02:54:38,999 --> 02:54:40,400
also the specific skill sets

5417
02:54:40,400 --> 02:54:41,535
needed for, for their, for

5418
02:54:41,535 --> 02:54:43,535
their industries.

5419
02:54:44,400 --> 02:54:45,471
>> Okay, so if we place greater

5420
02:54:45,471 --> 02:54:46,940
emphasis on cursive writing,

5421
02:54:46,940 --> 02:54:49,343
will it take away from any

5422
02:54:49,343 --> 02:54:49,810
other aspects of the education

5423
02:54:49,810 --> 02:54:51,145
process?

5424
02:54:51,145 --> 02:54:52,346
>> And based on the state,

5425
02:54:52,346 --> 02:54:54,481
we're going to be required to

5426
02:54:54,481 --> 02:54:55,916
do that. And I think there's

5427
02:54:55,916 --> 02:54:57,718
there's always been an emphasis

5428
02:54:57,718 --> 02:54:58,786
on writing, not I'm not

5429
02:54:58,786 --> 02:55:00,786
specifically talking about

5430
02:55:00,921 --> 02:55:03,824
cursive writing, writing, and I

5431
02:55:03,824 --> 02:55:05,392
can tell you our visit to the

5432
02:55:05,392 --> 02:55:08,392
fbi. The fbi regional office

5433
02:55:08,863 --> 02:55:11,365
down there in Miramar or North

5434
02:55:11,365 --> 02:55:13,200
Miami, the. The person in

5435
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:14,634
charge pretty much told us the

5436
02:55:14,634 --> 02:55:16,469
majority of their day is

5437
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:18,271
actually writing. It's not, you

5438
02:55:18,271 --> 02:55:20,700
know, they have to write a lot

5439
02:55:20,700 --> 02:55:21,809
of information to close the

5440
02:55:21,809 --> 02:55:23,644
case, to get that judge to

5441
02:55:23,644 --> 02:55:25,213
really close it out for them.

5442
02:55:25,213 --> 02:55:26,847
And so there's an emphasis on

5443
02:55:26,847 --> 02:55:27,982
writing, but as far as cursive,

5444
02:55:27,982 --> 02:55:29,850
there's a state mandate. So

5445
02:55:29,850 --> 02:55:31,352
it'll be included in our scope

5446
02:55:31,352 --> 02:55:33,287
and sequence moving forward.

5447
02:55:33,287 --> 02:55:34,322
>> Got it. And I have one more

5448
02:55:34,322 --> 02:55:37,322
question. I believe it came

5449
02:55:38,359 --> 02:55:40,759
from our multi language

5450
02:55:41,629 --> 02:55:43,431
multilingual committee. I

5451
02:55:43,431 --> 02:55:46,431
believe it was mentioned a

5452
02:55:47,330 --> 02:55:48,469
suggestion for a minimum of two

5453
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:50,869
classrooms for dual language

5454
02:55:51,380 --> 02:55:52,407
for kindergarten. Do you have

5455
02:55:52,407 --> 02:55:53,775
any feedback on that.

5456
02:55:53,775 --> 02:55:56,440
>> We'll have to take that back

5457
02:55:56,440 --> 02:55:57,845
to the team and review. I

5458
02:55:57,845 --> 02:55:59,180
understand the recommendation

5459
02:55:59,180 --> 02:56:00,281
and probably some of the

5460
02:56:00,281 --> 02:56:01,516
concerns as well.

5461
02:56:01,516 --> 02:56:03,551
>> Okay. All right. Thank you,

5462
02:56:03,551 --> 02:56:05,190
MADAM Chair.

5463
02:56:05,190 --> 02:56:06,554
>> Thank you. And I know the

5464
02:56:06,554 --> 02:56:07,889
student advisors would like to

5465
02:56:07,889 --> 02:56:08,989
speak again.

5466
02:56:08,989 --> 02:56:11,389
>> Okay, guys. We're back.

5467
02:56:14,394 --> 02:56:15,529
Sorry. So I did a little count.

5468
02:56:15,529 --> 02:56:16,698
And out of everyone in this

5469
02:56:16,698 --> 02:56:18,566
room now, people have been

5470
02:56:18,566 --> 02:56:19,667
going in and out. At least 39

5471
02:56:19,667 --> 02:56:21,402
of you have touched an

5472
02:56:21,402 --> 02:56:23,360
electronic. At some point while

5473
02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:24,873
I was counting whether it is a

5474
02:56:24,873 --> 02:56:26,730
phone, a computer, anything.

5475
02:56:26,730 --> 02:56:27,976
Hey, I'm not I'm not hating.

5476
02:56:27,976 --> 02:56:29,430
I'm not trying to say you guys

5477
02:56:29,430 --> 02:56:30,145
aren't listening or anything

5478
02:56:30,145 --> 02:56:31,979
like that. I'm just saying at

5479
02:56:31,979 --> 02:56:33,810
least 39 of you while I was

5480
02:56:33,810 --> 02:56:35,283
looking and counting have

5481
02:56:35,283 --> 02:56:36,451
touched some electronic. Right?

5482
02:56:36,451 --> 02:56:37,485
So now that I have your

5483
02:56:37,485 --> 02:56:38,452
attention, I would like

5484
02:56:38,452 --> 02:56:39,588
everyone to take that

5485
02:56:39,588 --> 02:56:41,456
electronic, whatever it MAY be,

5486
02:56:41,456 --> 02:56:42,524
and go to the online sunshine

5487
02:56:42,524 --> 02:56:44,292
website where we can find the

5488
02:56:44,292 --> 02:56:46,628
Florida Statute on the parental

5489
02:56:46,628 --> 02:56:48,229
Bill of rights. So I'll give

5490
02:56:48,229 --> 02:56:49,331
you guys a second to do that.

5491
02:56:49,331 --> 02:56:51,199
I'm not kidding. I want

5492
02:56:51,199 --> 02:56:53,680
everyone to look at it. I'm not

5493
02:56:53,680 --> 02:56:54,235
going to read the whole thing.

5494
02:56:54,235 --> 02:56:56,710
Don't worry. But I'll give you

5495
02:56:56,710 --> 02:56:57,172
guys a second, okay? Okay. I

5496
02:56:57,172 --> 02:56:58,373
see some movement. Thank you,

5497
02:56:58,373 --> 02:57:00,142
thank you. So that's the online

5498
02:57:00,142 --> 02:57:02,978
sunshine and you're going to go

5499
02:57:02,978 --> 02:57:05,378
it's title xlix chapter 1014

5500
02:57:06,247 --> 02:57:07,716
chapter online sunshine. It's

5501
02:57:07,716 --> 02:57:09,818
the Florida statute website.

5502
02:57:09,818 --> 02:57:13,855
Thank you. I'll give you guys a

5503
02:57:13,855 --> 02:57:15,390
second. Hold on. Okay. I see

5504
02:57:15,390 --> 02:57:17,692
you there. I see some people

5505
02:57:17,692 --> 02:57:19,593
right. You're going 1014

5506
02:57:19,593 --> 02:57:22,300
parental bill of rights. So

5507
02:57:22,300 --> 02:57:25,300
just that everyone's aware this

5508
02:57:25,734 --> 02:57:27,669
is as of 2025 Florida statutes.

5509
02:57:27,669 --> 02:57:30,706
So if you look at as a majority

5510
02:57:30,706 --> 02:57:33,609
of people there, if you look at

5511
02:57:33,609 --> 02:57:36,178
where is it d on their

5512
02:57:36,178 --> 02:57:38,312
procedures pursuant to statute

5513
02:57:38,312 --> 02:57:39,514
1002.23 d for a parent to

5514
02:57:39,514 --> 02:57:41,383
withdraw his or her minor child

5515
02:57:41,383 --> 02:57:43,285
from any portion of the schools

5516
02:57:43,285 --> 02:57:44,286
districts. Comprehensive health

5517
02:57:44,286 --> 02:57:46,686
education required under. Oh

5518
02:57:46,889 --> 02:57:48,690
wait, is that the right one?

5519
02:57:48,690 --> 02:57:50,959
Sorry. Reading the wrong one. C

5520
02:57:50,959 --> 02:57:52,895
sorry. Procedures pursuant to

5521
02:57:52,895 --> 02:57:53,962
statute 1006.282 a two for a

5522
02:57:53,962 --> 02:57:55,830
parent to object on

5523
02:57:55,830 --> 02:57:57,266
instructional materials and

5524
02:57:57,266 --> 02:57:58,333
other materials used in the

5525
02:57:58,333 --> 02:58:00,135
classroom, such objections MAY

5526
02:58:00,135 --> 02:58:01,270
be based on beliefs regarding

5527
02:58:01,270 --> 02:58:02,471
morality, sex, and religion, or

5528
02:58:02,471 --> 02:58:04,373
the belief that such materials

5529
02:58:04,373 --> 02:58:05,374
are harmful. For a purpose of

5530
02:58:05,374 --> 02:58:06,375
this section, the term

5531
02:58:06,375 --> 02:58:08,775
instructional materials has the

5532
02:58:09,111 --> 02:58:10,179
same meaning as in statute 1006

5533
02:58:10,179 --> 02:58:11,547
.292 and MAY include other

5534
02:58:11,547 --> 02:58:12,381
materials used in the classroom,

5535
02:58:12,381 --> 02:58:13,449
including workbooks and

5536
02:58:13,449 --> 02:58:14,916
worksheets, handouts, software,

5537
02:58:14,916 --> 02:58:15,951
application, and any digital

5538
02:58:15,951 --> 02:58:17,719
media made available to

5539
02:58:17,719 --> 02:58:20,989
students. And then if we scroll

5540
02:58:20,989 --> 02:58:23,989
down to 11, you'll see in

5541
02:58:24,259 --> 02:58:25,527
accordance with statute 1002

5542
02:58:25,527 --> 02:58:27,429
.2221 a the right of a parent

5543
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:28,430
to opt out of any district

5544
02:58:28,430 --> 02:58:30,299
level data collection relating

5545
02:58:30,299 --> 02:58:33,969
to his or her minor child, not

5546
02:58:33,969 --> 02:58:35,360
required by law. So. That's

5547
02:58:35,360 --> 02:58:36,605
just to kind of answer the

5548
02:58:36,605 --> 02:58:37,839
question. I know MR. Cervera

5549
02:58:37,839 --> 02:58:39,675
had asked about it earlier, and

5550
02:58:39,675 --> 02:58:40,809
he said he wanted to wait for

5551
02:58:40,809 --> 02:58:42,778
the research. I said, we can

5552
02:58:42,778 --> 02:58:44,647
look it up that way. No one has

5553
02:58:44,647 --> 02:58:45,748
to wait. So we have the

5554
02:58:45,748 --> 02:58:47,583
information present. I know a

5555
02:58:47,583 --> 02:58:49,585
lot of times some some things

5556
02:58:49,585 --> 02:58:50,586
are a little bit slow. So if we

5557
02:58:50,586 --> 02:58:51,720
ever have questions about

5558
02:58:51,720 --> 02:58:53,589
statute, you guys can look on

5559
02:58:53,589 --> 02:58:54,790
that website. But I think MR.

5560
02:58:54,790 --> 02:58:56,626
Zeman or DR. Zeman touched on

5561
02:58:56,626 --> 02:58:58,593
it. DR. Holness also went back

5562
02:58:58,593 --> 02:58:59,929
to it. At the end of the day,

5563
02:58:59,929 --> 02:59:01,664
just because we use laptops

5564
02:59:01,664 --> 02:59:03,990
does not mean we don't know how

5565
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:04,700
to write as well. Raise your

5566
02:59:04,700 --> 02:59:05,802
hand if you were using your

5567
02:59:05,802 --> 02:59:07,603
electronic in the room today

5568
02:59:07,603 --> 02:59:08,638
and I mean it. I want

5569
02:59:08,638 --> 02:59:09,705
participation here. People. You

5570
02:59:09,705 --> 02:59:10,739
guys have all participated in

5571
02:59:10,739 --> 02:59:13,176
classrooms. Raise your hand if

5572
02:59:13,176 --> 02:59:15,278
you also know how to write in

5573
02:59:15,278 --> 02:59:16,412
cursive and know how to use a

5574
02:59:16,412 --> 02:59:17,413
laptop.

5575
02:59:17,413 --> 02:59:18,580
>> Does that mean.

5576
02:59:18,580 --> 02:59:19,816
>> We write in cursive?

5577
02:59:19,816 --> 02:59:21,818
>> You write well in cursive.

5578
02:59:21,818 --> 02:59:23,619
Okay, put your hands down.

5579
02:59:23,619 --> 02:59:25,388
Raise your hand if you feel

5580
02:59:25,388 --> 02:59:26,489
that using a laptop has

5581
02:59:26,489 --> 02:59:29,580
hindered you from being able to

5582
02:59:29,580 --> 02:59:30,590
write in cursive.

5583
02:59:30,590 --> 02:59:31,194
>> Yeah, because our

5584
02:59:31,194 --> 02:59:33,194
handwriting.

5585
02:59:35,464 --> 02:59:38,401
>> Okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay.

5586
02:59:38,401 --> 02:59:40,235
But my point being is that

5587
02:59:40,235 --> 02:59:42,272
clearly the two can work

5588
02:59:42,272 --> 02:59:43,472
together. We're part of the

5589
02:59:43,472 --> 02:59:45,472
younger generation, right,

5590
02:59:45,909 --> 02:59:46,943
Allison? You as well. Right. I

5591
02:59:46,943 --> 02:59:48,778
know how to write in cursive.

5592
02:59:48,778 --> 02:59:50,613
Do you know how to write in

5593
02:59:50,613 --> 02:59:51,748
cursive? You know how to rank

5594
02:59:51,748 --> 02:59:52,816
cursive? I'm using my laptop.

5595
02:59:52,816 --> 02:59:54,751
You're using your laptop? Do

5596
02:59:54,751 --> 02:59:56,686
you know how to use a laptop?

5597
02:59:56,686 --> 02:59:58,621
Guys, we can do both. We can do

5598
02:59:58,621 --> 03:00:01,570
both. We can do it. I believe

5599
03:00:01,570 --> 03:00:02,959
in us. So this is just I know

5600
03:00:02,959 --> 03:00:04,194
I'm trying to be I'm trying to

5601
03:00:04,194 --> 03:00:05,962
be funny with it. I think humor

5602
03:00:05,962 --> 03:00:07,970
gets people to pay attention.

5603
03:00:07,970 --> 03:00:08,965
But seriously, like, I really

5604
03:00:08,965 --> 03:00:10,233
hope this does prove to you we

5605
03:00:10,233 --> 03:00:11,901
can do both in the classroom.

5606
03:00:11,901 --> 03:00:13,703
And students deserve to have

5607
03:00:13,703 --> 03:00:14,804
both in the classroom. Now,

5608
03:00:14,804 --> 03:00:16,473
obviously, if one teacher wants

5609
03:00:16,473 --> 03:00:18,375
to use more tech or they want

5610
03:00:18,375 --> 03:00:19,809
to use more paper, that's up to

5611
03:00:19,809 --> 03:00:21,945
them, right? But we shouldn't

5612
03:00:21,945 --> 03:00:22,846
just allow it to be taken out

5613
03:00:22,846 --> 03:00:24,680
altogether, and we shouldn't

5614
03:00:24,680 --> 03:00:25,782
make it the only way to learn.

5615
03:00:25,782 --> 03:00:27,170
It's all about finding that

5616
03:00:27,170 --> 03:00:28,818
balance. And Broward County, we

5617
03:00:28,818 --> 03:00:30,253
should continue to push for us

5618
03:00:30,253 --> 03:00:32,540
to have that balance so that

5619
03:00:32,540 --> 03:00:33,890
students have all those skills.

5620
03:00:33,890 --> 03:00:34,858
Think about it. Job

5621
03:00:34,858 --> 03:00:37,270
applications. My you said it

5622
03:00:37,270 --> 03:00:38,361
just now to me, on the side,

5623
03:00:38,361 --> 03:00:40,761
almost every job application

5624
03:00:41,300 --> 03:00:42,465
today is online, right? I

5625
03:00:42,465 --> 03:00:43,867
previously had a job, my

5626
03:00:43,867 --> 03:00:44,634
application online, our

5627
03:00:44,634 --> 03:00:46,803
application for this guess

5628
03:00:46,803 --> 03:00:48,638
where we found the documents

5629
03:00:48,638 --> 03:00:49,539
online. It's it's unfortunate

5630
03:00:49,539 --> 03:00:51,375
right? I know it's not the

5631
03:00:51,375 --> 03:00:52,509
greatest thing. I look back at

5632
03:00:52,509 --> 03:00:54,378
movies from the 80s and I'm

5633
03:00:54,378 --> 03:00:55,478
like, wow, that was so nice.

5634
03:00:55,478 --> 03:00:57,280
They didn't have, you know,

5635
03:00:57,280 --> 03:00:58,448
they didn't have all that. You

5636
03:00:58,448 --> 03:01:00,283
could just focus on life. You

5637
03:01:00,283 --> 03:01:02,286
didn't have to use laptops all

5638
03:01:02,286 --> 03:01:03,453
the time. But at the end of the

5639
03:01:03,453 --> 03:01:05,354
day, it's here. It is here.

5640
03:01:05,354 --> 03:01:06,589
Whether we like it or not, it

5641
03:01:06,589 --> 03:01:08,425
is part of society today. We

5642
03:01:08,425 --> 03:01:10,293
cannot avoid it. And it is not

5643
03:01:10,293 --> 03:01:11,428
fair to our students to keep

5644
03:01:11,428 --> 03:01:12,595
them from having the proper

5645
03:01:12,595 --> 03:01:13,397
skills to work in today's world.

5646
03:01:13,397 --> 03:01:14,398
Thank you.

5647
03:01:14,398 --> 03:01:16,299
>> Well said. Lily.

5648
03:01:16,299 --> 03:01:18,135
>> Where are you going? To law

5649
03:01:18,135 --> 03:01:19,537
school.

5650
03:01:19,537 --> 03:01:22,806
>> So I wanted to touch base

5651
03:01:22,806 --> 03:01:25,275
with Cynthia. She left, though.

5652
03:01:25,275 --> 03:01:27,675
She mentioned she mentioned

5653
03:01:27,945 --> 03:01:29,946
student suicide and also mental

5654
03:01:29,946 --> 03:01:31,414
health awareness. And I kind of

5655
03:01:31,414 --> 03:01:33,217
wanted to clarification from

5656
03:01:33,217 --> 03:01:34,985
her whether she was trying to

5657
03:01:34,985 --> 03:01:37,155
say that maybe the district

5658
03:01:37,155 --> 03:01:39,555
doesn't have enough resources

5659
03:01:39,689 --> 03:01:41,157
for mental health awareness. I

5660
03:01:41,157 --> 03:01:43,660
know she's not present or in

5661
03:01:43,660 --> 03:01:46,129
the room anymore, but is there

5662
03:01:46,129 --> 03:01:49,729
anyone that in over here that

5663
03:01:51,202 --> 03:01:53,370
can kind of clarify that? Sort

5664
03:01:53,370 --> 03:01:55,770
of clarify her statement?

5665
03:01:55,906 --> 03:01:58,142
>> MADAM Chair, MAY I he's

5666
03:01:58,142 --> 03:02:00,578
asking. Okay. Thank you. I've

5667
03:02:00,578 --> 03:02:01,612
just been having an important

5668
03:02:01,612 --> 03:02:04,548
conversation. There have been a

5669
03:02:04,548 --> 03:02:07,351
couple of tragedies in recent

5670
03:02:07,351 --> 03:02:08,886
hours and days. And I think one

5671
03:02:08,886 --> 03:02:12,560
of the things that we might

5672
03:02:12,560 --> 03:02:13,858
want to look at as an immediate

5673
03:02:13,858 --> 03:02:15,326
issue is how much support is

5674
03:02:15,326 --> 03:02:17,862
there for students over the

5675
03:02:17,862 --> 03:02:20,131
summer. For some students,

5676
03:02:20,131 --> 03:02:22,166
school is an outlet. Their home

5677
03:02:22,166 --> 03:02:23,367
life MAY not be what

5678
03:02:23,367 --> 03:02:25,303
everybody's is, and school is

5679
03:02:25,303 --> 03:02:26,870
the place that they go to have

5680
03:02:26,870 --> 03:02:28,339
support. They go to have food,

5681
03:02:28,339 --> 03:02:30,408
they go to have folks around

5682
03:02:30,408 --> 03:02:32,209
them that get them. And I think

5683
03:02:32,209 --> 03:02:33,677
that's pretty urgent that we

5684
03:02:33,677 --> 03:02:35,913
look at what can be done over

5685
03:02:35,913 --> 03:02:37,849
the summer. I MAY be wrong, but

5686
03:02:37,849 --> 03:02:39,817
I seem to recall from the org

5687
03:02:39,817 --> 03:02:42,353
chart debates that we lost some

5688
03:02:42,353 --> 03:02:43,955
suicide prevention specialists.

5689
03:02:43,955 --> 03:02:45,222
I think we might want to look

5690
03:02:45,222 --> 03:02:47,580
pretty rapidly at what the heck

5691
03:02:47,580 --> 03:02:48,792
we were thinking. Or when I say

5692
03:02:48,792 --> 03:02:49,894
we, you folks were thinking

5693
03:02:49,894 --> 03:02:51,329
when that occurred, because

5694
03:02:51,329 --> 03:02:52,396
there is an urgent need right

5695
03:02:52,396 --> 03:02:54,132
now to look at what supports

5696
03:02:54,132 --> 03:02:55,333
are available to students over

5697
03:02:55,333 --> 03:02:58,202
the summer, and how do we let

5698
03:02:58,202 --> 03:02:59,604
them know about them?

5699
03:02:59,604 --> 03:03:00,671
>> Mental health is is

5700
03:03:00,671 --> 03:03:02,507
something that I believe

5701
03:03:02,507 --> 03:03:04,976
everyone in here has as a

5702
03:03:04,976 --> 03:03:07,211
shared value and also a shared

5703
03:03:07,211 --> 03:03:09,130
priority. And, you know, the

5704
03:03:09,130 --> 03:03:11,413
district has done multiple

5705
03:03:11,516 --> 03:03:12,951
things to, you know, encourage

5706
03:03:12,951 --> 03:03:14,151
the youth and encourage them

5707
03:03:14,151 --> 03:03:16,220
and, you know, sort of uplift

5708
03:03:16,220 --> 03:03:17,522
them because students go

5709
03:03:17,522 --> 03:03:19,900
through a lot of stuff. You

5710
03:03:19,900 --> 03:03:20,658
know, they MAY it MAY seem like

5711
03:03:20,658 --> 03:03:22,494
it's the end of the world for

5712
03:03:22,494 --> 03:03:26,940
them, you know, until they step

5713
03:03:26,230 --> 03:03:27,465
into adult life. So I would

5714
03:03:27,465 --> 03:03:29,300
like to, you know, look back to

5715
03:03:29,300 --> 03:03:32,300
other things that we have done.

5716
03:03:32,300 --> 03:03:33,471
For example, the last year's

5717
03:03:33,471 --> 03:03:35,471
alternative student advisor,

5718
03:03:36,700 --> 03:03:37,142
Jacir, they hosted at South

5719
03:03:37,142 --> 03:03:38,843
Broward, a youth mental health

5720
03:03:38,843 --> 03:03:40,311
awareness summit, and they had

5721
03:03:40,311 --> 03:03:42,711
hundreds of students there,

5722
03:03:42,847 --> 03:03:44,349
hundreds of students. And, you

5723
03:03:44,349 --> 03:03:46,418
know, among other things that

5724
03:03:46,418 --> 03:03:49,287
we have done to support mental

5725
03:03:49,287 --> 03:03:50,888
health awareness. And the

5726
03:03:50,888 --> 03:03:53,257
reason, the reason I bring this

5727
03:03:53,257 --> 03:03:55,460
all up is to say that our

5728
03:03:55,460 --> 03:03:56,661
students should be the, the

5729
03:03:56,661 --> 03:03:58,463
front and center of everything

5730
03:03:58,463 --> 03:04:00,832
that we do and all the choices

5731
03:04:00,832 --> 03:04:02,667
that we make and mental health

5732
03:04:02,667 --> 03:04:05,670
has unfortunately gotten worse

5733
03:04:05,704 --> 03:04:08,704
and worse and worse, especially

5734
03:04:08,707 --> 03:04:10,509
with electronics. Now, nowadays,

5735
03:04:10,509 --> 03:04:11,977
they're able to look at other

5736
03:04:11,977 --> 03:04:13,440
people's lives. They're able to,

5737
03:04:13,440 --> 03:04:14,713
you know, see other people

5738
03:04:14,713 --> 03:04:16,949
having fun and say, hey, why am

5739
03:04:16,949 --> 03:04:19,150
I not having as much fun as

5740
03:04:19,150 --> 03:04:21,686
that person? So I'd like to

5741
03:04:21,686 --> 03:04:24,589
also direct the question to MR.

5742
03:04:24,589 --> 03:04:26,240
Superintendent, what, what

5743
03:04:26,240 --> 03:04:28,424
procedures are in place

5744
03:04:28,559 --> 03:04:29,595
currently for mental health

5745
03:04:29,595 --> 03:04:31,290
awareness and things

5746
03:04:31,290 --> 03:04:32,830
surrounding that, especially

5747
03:04:32,830 --> 03:04:36,430
with, you know, her saying that

5748
03:04:36,435 --> 03:04:37,903
with her saying that we lost

5749
03:04:37,903 --> 03:04:39,738
from the org chart, the org

5750
03:04:39,738 --> 03:04:40,773
chart, some people from the

5751
03:04:40,773 --> 03:04:42,207
suicide prevention.

5752
03:04:42,207 --> 03:04:42,508
>> And student support

5753
03:04:42,508 --> 03:04:43,609
specialists.

5754
03:04:43,609 --> 03:04:44,900
>> And student support

5755
03:04:44,900 --> 03:04:46,900
specialists.

5756
03:04:46,945 --> 03:04:48,447
>> Great question. And I have

5757
03:04:48,447 --> 03:04:49,415
MISS Hollingsworth provide an

5758
03:04:49,415 --> 03:04:51,249
answer to that question and

5759
03:04:51,249 --> 03:04:53,718
also give specifics of what we

5760
03:04:53,718 --> 03:04:55,187
actually lost as far as the

5761
03:04:55,187 --> 03:04:56,488
suicide prevention folks,

5762
03:04:56,488 --> 03:04:58,570
because I think it was people

5763
03:04:58,570 --> 03:04:59,157
who were not directly

5764
03:04:59,157 --> 03:04:59,858
supporting students. But go

5765
03:04:59,858 --> 03:05:00,226
ahead, please.

5766
03:05:00,226 --> 03:05:01,860
>> Good.

5767
03:05:01,860 --> 03:05:02,795
>> I think it's afternoon. Good

5768
03:05:02,795 --> 03:05:04,529
afternoon. Simone Hollingsworth,

5769
03:05:04,529 --> 03:05:06,929
Chief Student Services Officer

5770
03:05:07,433 --> 03:05:08,667
And Mikelle, very good question.

5771
03:05:08,667 --> 03:05:10,302
Certainly, we do have support

5772
03:05:10,302 --> 03:05:11,703
over the summer. We send out

5773
03:05:11,703 --> 03:05:12,805
communication. We also have

5774
03:05:12,805 --> 03:05:14,273
staff on board that are

5775
03:05:14,273 --> 03:05:16,142
checking on our students, that

5776
03:05:16,142 --> 03:05:17,843
have safety plans, that are

5777
03:05:17,843 --> 03:05:19,612
both engaged in our summer

5778
03:05:19,612 --> 03:05:21,847
experience, as well as at home.

5779
03:05:21,847 --> 03:05:22,781
We certainly are constantly

5780
03:05:22,781 --> 03:05:24,781
addressing the communication

5781
03:05:25,840 --> 03:05:26,152
and the support. And although

5782
03:05:26,152 --> 03:05:27,319
there's some adjustments with

5783
03:05:27,319 --> 03:05:28,520
the org chart, we're going to

5784
03:05:28,520 --> 03:05:30,155
still be continuing to engage

5785
03:05:30,155 --> 03:05:31,524
with our student advisors and

5786
03:05:31,524 --> 03:05:33,250
our Student voices group to

5787
03:05:33,250 --> 03:05:34,794
ensure that we continue to hear

5788
03:05:34,794 --> 03:05:36,228
that voice and get that

5789
03:05:36,228 --> 03:05:38,330
perspective along with our

5790
03:05:38,330 --> 03:05:39,998
schools. Yes, the student

5791
03:05:39,998 --> 03:05:41,998
suicide prevention coordinators

5792
03:05:42,340 --> 03:05:43,202
were eliminated. However,

5793
03:05:43,202 --> 03:05:44,236
myself and the team, although

5794
03:05:44,236 --> 03:05:46,400
they're still on staff right

5795
03:05:46,400 --> 03:05:48,440
now, are adjusting that work

5796
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:49,875
because really realigning the

5797
03:05:49,875 --> 03:05:51,477
work and making sure that that

5798
03:05:51,477 --> 03:05:52,812
is out there and prevalent

5799
03:05:52,812 --> 03:05:54,247
because we know that it is a

5800
03:05:54,247 --> 03:05:55,848
concern as well as the

5801
03:05:55,848 --> 03:05:57,249
specialists really redesigning

5802
03:05:57,249 --> 03:05:58,551
our tire department, because

5803
03:05:58,551 --> 03:06:01,870
the merging of student services

5804
03:06:01,870 --> 03:06:02,521
and mental health back into one

5805
03:06:02,521 --> 03:06:03,955
department is what we've been

5806
03:06:03,955 --> 03:06:06,920
working on before the

5807
03:06:06,920 --> 03:06:08,920
individuals transition out.

5808
03:06:08,627 --> 03:06:10,620
>> And for any student that's

5809
03:06:10,620 --> 03:06:11,297
maybe going through something

5810
03:06:11,297 --> 03:06:13,320
over the summer where they're

5811
03:06:13,320 --> 03:06:14,867
not able to speak to a teacher

5812
03:06:14,867 --> 03:06:17,235
right away or speak to a

5813
03:06:17,235 --> 03:06:19,635
counselor right away, what

5814
03:06:20,506 --> 03:06:22,308
resources are available to them

5815
03:06:22,308 --> 03:06:23,809
via online or whatever the case

5816
03:06:23,809 --> 03:06:26,278
MAY be, for them to reachut

5817
03:06:26,278 --> 03:06:26,646
to s somne who t they want help

5818
03:06:26,646 --> 03:06:27,947
om..

5819
03:06:27,947 --> 03:06:29,882
>> Cororrect.Ee sllll havitit on

5820
03:06:29,882 --> 03:06:31,170
nvnvas aselell as we send out

5821
03:06:31,170 --> 03:06:32,452
weekly communications through

5822
03:06:32,452 --> 03:06:34,587
parent links, through canvas,

5823
03:06:34,587 --> 03:06:36,222
as well as putting it on our

5824
03:06:36,222 --> 03:06:38,558
website so that we have that,

5825
03:06:38,558 --> 03:06:39,225
you know, consistent messaging

5826
03:06:39,225 --> 03:06:39,592
and support.

5827
03:06:39,592 --> 03:06:41,592
>> Okay.

5828
03:06:43,596 --> 03:06:45,996
>> Thank you, thank you.

5829
03:06:46,799 --> 03:06:48,968
>> Thank you, MISS Bulman.

5830
03:06:48,968 --> 03:06:50,369
>> Thank you, chair. And I

5831
03:06:50,369 --> 03:06:52,769
think my colleagues have

5832
03:06:53,106 --> 03:06:55,441
covered most things. I wanted

5833
03:06:55,441 --> 03:06:56,875
to touch with base back to our

5834
03:06:56,875 --> 03:06:57,877
student advisors. So first of

5835
03:06:57,877 --> 03:07:00,146
all, you guys mentioned that

5836
03:07:00,146 --> 03:07:01,548
you had the leadership summit

5837
03:07:01,548 --> 03:07:03,349
or the training. My son

5838
03:07:03,349 --> 03:07:05,749
actually participated in that

5839
03:07:06,586 --> 03:07:09,856
and it was amazing. He had a

5840
03:07:09,856 --> 03:07:12,250
fantastic experience. And so

5841
03:07:12,250 --> 03:07:14,160
thank you. And also under the

5842
03:07:14,160 --> 03:07:17,160
leadership of Landon and Jasir,

5843
03:07:18,531 --> 03:07:20,367
so in great hands. And so I

5844
03:07:20,367 --> 03:07:22,201
just want to point, I, I'm just

5845
03:07:22,201 --> 03:07:23,603
so impressed. I've worked with

5846
03:07:23,603 --> 03:07:25,400
you a little bit so far, but

5847
03:07:25,400 --> 03:07:27,507
I'm so impressed with your

5848
03:07:27,507 --> 03:07:29,409
comments today. And this is the

5849
03:07:29,409 --> 03:07:32,846
why of why we have these jobs,

5850
03:07:32,846 --> 03:07:34,715
I think. And to see you here

5851
03:07:34,715 --> 03:07:36,715
defending your generation,

5852
03:07:37,217 --> 03:07:38,318
making excellent points is just

5853
03:07:38,318 --> 03:07:40,718
invaluable because you can

5854
03:07:40,887 --> 03:07:42,622
always find the negative and

5855
03:07:42,622 --> 03:07:44,791
find things to complain about.

5856
03:07:44,791 --> 03:07:49,960
But to be able to really make a

5857
03:07:49,960 --> 03:07:50,564
cogent argument and to see both

5858
03:07:50,564 --> 03:07:52,299
sides of what's happening, I

5859
03:07:52,299 --> 03:07:54,868
think is very important as a

5860
03:07:54,868 --> 03:07:57,268
parent. Technology is scary.

5861
03:07:58,380 --> 03:08:00,974
It's hard to deal with knowing

5862
03:08:00,974 --> 03:08:01,875
that your kids are exposed to

5863
03:08:01,875 --> 03:08:03,143
things that you certainly

5864
03:08:03,143 --> 03:08:04,578
wouldn't want to have them

5865
03:08:04,578 --> 03:08:06,379
exposed to, that you really

5866
03:08:06,379 --> 03:08:08,615
don't have any control over.

5867
03:08:08,615 --> 03:08:10,584
It's hard to have your kids go

5868
03:08:10,584 --> 03:08:12,486
to middle school, and it's hard

5869
03:08:12,486 --> 03:08:13,954
to watch them go and do all

5870
03:08:13,954 --> 03:08:15,220
kinds of things that you've

5871
03:08:15,220 --> 03:08:16,189
experienced yourself and you

5872
03:08:16,189 --> 03:08:18,258
would rather protect them from,

5873
03:08:18,258 --> 03:08:22,196
but you. But you can't. And I

5874
03:08:22,196 --> 03:08:24,732
think the idea that we're going

5875
03:08:24,732 --> 03:08:26,233
to shut down an entire part of

5876
03:08:26,233 --> 03:08:29,736
what is the reality of the

5877
03:08:29,736 --> 03:08:32,639
world right now is unreasonable.

5878
03:08:32,639 --> 03:08:34,475
And so I just really appreciate

5879
03:08:34,475 --> 03:08:35,876
your perspectives and bringing

5880
03:08:35,876 --> 03:08:37,278
that because you're the ones

5881
03:08:37,278 --> 03:08:38,379
that are living it. And there's

5882
03:08:38,379 --> 03:08:39,846
nothing bad about what's

5883
03:08:39,846 --> 03:08:41,681
happening in your generation.

5884
03:08:41,681 --> 03:08:42,749
If we went and stayed in the

5885
03:08:42,749 --> 03:08:44,180
generation that decided that

5886
03:08:44,180 --> 03:08:46,190
they did everything right, we

5887
03:08:46,190 --> 03:08:47,320
would never evolve as people

5888
03:08:47,320 --> 03:08:50,590
and we wouldn't have rock and

5889
03:08:50,590 --> 03:08:51,792
roll. So thank you guys. You

5890
03:08:51,792 --> 03:08:53,928
guys are doing a great job.

5891
03:08:53,928 --> 03:08:56,630
Keep up the good work. And I

5892
03:08:56,630 --> 03:08:57,164
just appreciate the student

5893
03:08:57,164 --> 03:08:59,564
perspective. It is really

5894
03:08:59,934 --> 03:09:01,802
invaluable for us as we do our

5895
03:09:01,802 --> 03:09:03,236
jobs.

5896
03:09:03,236 --> 03:09:06,107
>> Thank you. And I'll be quick

5897
03:09:06,107 --> 03:09:07,975
because I think the the bulk of

5898
03:09:07,975 --> 03:09:09,109
what I wanted to talk about in

5899
03:09:09,109 --> 03:09:12,109
response to the concerns that

5900
03:09:13,347 --> 03:09:14,982
were raised. Really fits better

5901
03:09:14,982 --> 03:09:18,582
into the the next workshop. And

5902
03:09:18,719 --> 03:09:20,121
I just want to highlight the

5903
03:09:20,121 --> 03:09:21,589
elementary subcommittee from

5904
03:09:21,589 --> 03:09:23,423
dac and the report that they

5905
03:09:23,423 --> 03:09:24,692
issued several weeks ago. I

5906
03:09:24,692 --> 03:09:26,427
hope all my my colleagues had

5907
03:09:26,427 --> 03:09:27,829
an opportunity to read that. It

5908
03:09:27,829 --> 03:09:30,264
was very well researched and

5909
03:09:30,264 --> 03:09:31,699
put together and gives us a lot

5910
03:09:31,699 --> 03:09:33,534
to think about. And one thing

5911
03:09:33,534 --> 03:09:35,636
that keeps coming up that I

5912
03:09:35,636 --> 03:09:37,771
maybe don't think comes fits so

5913
03:09:37,771 --> 03:09:40,708
well into the next workshop is

5914
03:09:40,708 --> 03:09:42,176
access to YouTube on district

5915
03:09:42,176 --> 03:09:43,945
devices. And I can say, you

5916
03:09:43,945 --> 03:09:46,848
know, as a, as a teacher, I

5917
03:09:46,848 --> 03:09:47,915
used YouTube videos to, to help

5918
03:09:47,915 --> 03:09:49,116
supplement some of my

5919
03:09:49,116 --> 03:09:51,819
instruction. I did, you know,

5920
03:09:51,819 --> 03:09:53,655
it wasn't a regular thing. And

5921
03:09:53,655 --> 03:09:56,257
sometimes I would maybe have

5922
03:09:56,257 --> 03:09:57,959
assigned it, you know, a video

5923
03:09:57,959 --> 03:10:00,862
in small groups and things like

5924
03:10:00,862 --> 03:10:02,197
that. But I am increasingly

5925
03:10:02,197 --> 03:10:04,198
concerned because I don't think

5926
03:10:04,198 --> 03:10:07,335
they had this when I was in the

5927
03:10:07,335 --> 03:10:10,335
classroom of the access to

5928
03:10:10,505 --> 03:10:12,774
YouTube shorts on district

5929
03:10:12,774 --> 03:10:14,509
devices, because that is very

5930
03:10:14,509 --> 03:10:16,909
different than having students

5931
03:10:17,712 --> 03:10:20,949
watch like a 1967 clip of Romeo

5932
03:10:20,949 --> 03:10:23,485
and Juliet. And I continue to

5933
03:10:23,485 --> 03:10:24,252
hear from parents that they

5934
03:10:24,252 --> 03:10:25,687
really don't want their

5935
03:10:25,687 --> 03:10:27,789
children to have access to

5936
03:10:27,789 --> 03:10:30,358
YouTube in general, but YouTube

5937
03:10:30,358 --> 03:10:31,393
shorts specifically on district

5938
03:10:31,393 --> 03:10:33,328
devices. And I understand as

5939
03:10:33,328 --> 03:10:35,129
well that like a kid can take

5940
03:10:35,129 --> 03:10:37,866
out their own device and watch

5941
03:10:37,866 --> 03:10:39,301
that. But I think part of the

5942
03:10:39,301 --> 03:10:40,801
larger conversation that we'll

5943
03:10:40,801 --> 03:10:42,838
have in the next workshop is

5944
03:10:42,838 --> 03:10:44,372
like what we as a school

5945
03:10:44,372 --> 03:10:47,275
district are giving kids access

5946
03:10:47,275 --> 03:10:49,811
to. We have to have we have to,

5947
03:10:49,811 --> 03:10:51,914
in good conscience, feel that

5948
03:10:51,914 --> 03:10:54,820
it is safe and good for

5949
03:10:54,820 --> 03:10:56,251
children. So I'm wondering,

5950
03:10:56,251 --> 03:10:57,718
Doctor Hepburn, if our staff

5951
03:10:57,718 --> 03:10:59,870
has contemplated what that

5952
03:10:59,870 --> 03:11:01,487
would look like, restricting

5953
03:11:01,689 --> 03:11:03,458
further restricting access to

5954
03:11:03,458 --> 03:11:04,926
YouTube on district devices. I

5955
03:11:04,926 --> 03:11:07,926
want to be respectful of

5956
03:11:08,529 --> 03:11:10,298
teacher autonomy, but I'm

5957
03:11:10,298 --> 03:11:11,366
starting to feel like. And I

5958
03:11:11,366 --> 03:11:13,869
think what I'm hearing from

5959
03:11:13,869 --> 03:11:17,139
parents is that the risks or

5960
03:11:17,139 --> 03:11:18,940
the disadvantages outweigh the

5961
03:11:18,940 --> 03:11:20,342
advantages of of allowing

5962
03:11:20,342 --> 03:11:21,442
access to YouTube in our

5963
03:11:21,442 --> 03:11:22,678
schools.

5964
03:11:22,678 --> 03:11:24,613
>> Yes. Thanks for the question.

5965
03:11:24,613 --> 03:11:26,148
So it's honestly, it's my first

5966
03:11:26,148 --> 03:11:27,983
time. I've heard concerns about

5967
03:11:27,983 --> 03:11:29,618
YouTube on district devices. So

5968
03:11:29,618 --> 03:11:32,254
we can take that conversation

5969
03:11:32,254 --> 03:11:34,823
back to the team, assess what

5970
03:11:34,823 --> 03:11:37,223
kids have access to,

5971
03:11:37,626 --> 03:11:40,260
specifically the shorts, and

5972
03:11:40,561 --> 03:11:42,464
figure out a way to enhance

5973
03:11:42,464 --> 03:11:45,464
filters or whatever the case

5974
03:11:45,934 --> 03:11:47,402
MAY be. I do know this previous

5975
03:11:47,402 --> 03:11:49,171
two districts that there are

5976
03:11:49,171 --> 03:11:50,438
certain content that is blocked.

5977
03:11:50,438 --> 03:11:51,506
It can't get through YouTube,

5978
03:11:51,506 --> 03:11:52,775
right? When you search for

5979
03:11:52,775 --> 03:11:55,175
certain things or certain

5980
03:11:56,445 --> 03:11:57,846
videos on on district Wi-Fi. So

5981
03:11:57,846 --> 03:11:58,880
we can, I can take that

5982
03:11:58,880 --> 03:12:01,449
conversation back to the it

5983
03:12:01,449 --> 03:12:02,184
team and see how we can, if

5984
03:12:02,184 --> 03:12:03,753
certain things are getting

5985
03:12:03,753 --> 03:12:04,887
through the filters, how we can

5986
03:12:04,887 --> 03:12:06,210
enhance the filters to make

5987
03:12:06,210 --> 03:12:06,755
sure kids don't have access to

5988
03:12:06,755 --> 03:12:07,922
that.

5989
03:12:07,922 --> 03:12:08,958
>> Thank you. When can we

5990
03:12:08,958 --> 03:12:10,826
expect that follow up?

5991
03:12:10,826 --> 03:12:12,610
>> Yeah, we can give that to

5992
03:12:12,610 --> 03:12:14,762
you in two weeks. Okay. I'll

5993
03:12:14,762 --> 03:12:15,898
log it as a follow up so we can

5994
03:12:15,898 --> 03:12:16,765
get it traditionally in a week

5995
03:12:16,765 --> 03:12:18,765
or two.

5996
03:12:20,102 --> 03:12:22,804
>> Thank you. And I tend to

5997
03:12:22,804 --> 03:12:26,275
lean in the Cervera camp when

5998
03:12:26,275 --> 03:12:29,478
it comes to parental opt outs.

5999
03:12:29,478 --> 03:12:31,547
When it comes to technology.

6000
03:12:31,547 --> 03:12:33,449
And I understand that we have

6001
03:12:33,449 --> 03:12:34,850
to be respectful of teacher

6002
03:12:34,850 --> 03:12:36,118
autonomy. So, you know, as a

6003
03:12:36,118 --> 03:12:38,154
parent, if I had a choice, like

6004
03:12:38,154 --> 03:12:39,989
my children would be learning

6005
03:12:39,989 --> 03:12:42,900
with clay and sticks and rocks

6006
03:12:42,900 --> 03:12:45,690
all day long outside. But I

6007
03:12:47,830 --> 03:12:49,632
know that that is not reality

6008
03:12:49,632 --> 03:12:51,801
forever. But I would like to

6009
03:12:51,801 --> 03:12:54,801
preserve their childhood for as

6010
03:12:55,370 --> 03:12:56,839
long as possible. So I think,

6011
03:12:56,839 --> 03:12:58,741
you know, again, this this

6012
03:12:58,741 --> 03:13:01,543
conversation I think will have

6013
03:13:01,543 --> 03:13:03,379
more in the next workshop, but

6014
03:13:03,379 --> 03:13:05,848
I really look forward to that

6015
03:13:05,848 --> 03:13:08,848
follow up about what parental

6016
03:13:09,850 --> 03:13:10,553
opting out can look like, while

6017
03:13:10,553 --> 03:13:11,821
also respecting teacher

6018
03:13:11,821 --> 03:13:13,789
autonomy. And I think, you know,

6019
03:13:13,789 --> 03:13:15,591
I would love to reference our

6020
03:13:15,591 --> 03:13:17,591
previous student advisor,

6021
03:13:18,160 --> 03:13:19,962
Landon Spellberg. He, he talked

6022
03:13:19,962 --> 03:13:21,397
frequently about how he had a

6023
03:13:21,397 --> 03:13:22,465
teacher, I think it was ap lit.

6024
03:13:22,465 --> 03:13:24,600
Shout out to our English

6025
03:13:24,600 --> 03:13:26,769
teachers where the teacher

6026
03:13:26,769 --> 03:13:28,604
didn't use a single device the

6027
03:13:28,604 --> 03:13:30,373
entire year, and he would leave

6028
03:13:30,373 --> 03:13:32,410
school board meetings to go

6029
03:13:32,410 --> 03:13:33,609
attend that class. And then he

6030
03:13:33,609 --> 03:13:34,677
had teachers who used

6031
03:13:34,677 --> 03:13:36,779
technology all year long, and

6032
03:13:36,779 --> 03:13:38,648
that was equally as engaging.

6033
03:13:38,648 --> 03:13:41,150
So I think, you know, it

6034
03:13:41,150 --> 03:13:42,218
doesn't have to be all or one

6035
03:13:42,218 --> 03:13:43,319
in different teachers have

6036
03:13:43,319 --> 03:13:45,719
different teaching styles and

6037
03:13:46,156 --> 03:13:49,526
we can't mandate one thing for

6038
03:13:49,526 --> 03:13:51,461
all teachers. So I think I DR.

6039
03:13:51,461 --> 03:13:52,696
Zeman was the one who used the

6040
03:13:52,696 --> 03:13:54,731
word nuanced, but this is a

6041
03:13:54,731 --> 03:13:56,999
nuanced conversation that we we

6042
03:13:56,999 --> 03:13:59,169
really need to have more

6043
03:13:59,169 --> 03:14:00,937
detailed discussions on. But I

6044
03:14:00,937 --> 03:14:03,730
really want us to keep at the

6045
03:14:03,730 --> 03:14:05,730
forefront. Obviously, student

6046
03:14:05,242 --> 03:14:08,242
safety and protection, but also

6047
03:14:10,379 --> 03:14:11,480
teacher autonomy. MR. Cervera.

6048
03:14:11,480 --> 03:14:12,615
>> Thank you, chair, and I

6049
03:14:12,615 --> 03:14:13,683
appreciate the comment about

6050
03:14:13,683 --> 03:14:15,519
the Cervera camp. The Cervera

6051
03:14:15,519 --> 03:14:16,853
camp is a really good camp to

6052
03:14:16,853 --> 03:14:19,723
be a part of sometimes.

6053
03:14:19,723 --> 03:14:21,458
Sometimes. Right? Yeah. There

6054
03:14:21,458 --> 03:14:24,600
you go. Exactly. DR. Zeman

6055
03:14:24,600 --> 03:14:25,228
nailed it. She left. I was

6056
03:14:25,228 --> 03:14:26,329
going to give her kudos on

6057
03:14:26,329 --> 03:14:28,498
pulling up the statute. See

6058
03:14:28,498 --> 03:14:29,599
that? Oh, well, Doctor Hepburn,

6059
03:14:29,599 --> 03:14:31,501
you better watch out. She MAY

6060
03:14:31,501 --> 03:14:32,569
be replacing you in a couple of

6061
03:14:32,569 --> 03:14:33,569
years, so don't get too

6062
03:14:33,569 --> 03:14:35,539
comfortable in that seat.

6063
03:14:35,539 --> 03:14:36,205
>> Sir, the seat is open. See

6064
03:14:36,205 --> 03:14:37,474
that?

6065
03:14:37,474 --> 03:14:39,509
>> Real quick. I just want to

6066
03:14:39,509 --> 03:14:41,311
make sure that that my ask is

6067
03:14:41,311 --> 03:14:44,911
is, is clear because I know

6068
03:14:45,215 --> 03:14:47,417
Doctor Holness had some some an

6069
03:14:47,417 --> 03:14:49,190
additional commentary on it.

6070
03:14:49,190 --> 03:14:50,954
The ask that I'm requesting of

6071
03:14:50,954 --> 03:14:53,490
you, sir, in a follow up is

6072
03:14:53,490 --> 03:14:55,250
very specific. What is our

6073
03:14:55,250 --> 03:14:56,459
obligations under parental opt

6074
03:14:56,459 --> 03:14:58,195
outs, under the statute and

6075
03:14:58,195 --> 03:15:00,330
what is the procedure for doing

6076
03:15:00,330 --> 03:15:02,132
that? I'm I'm really in this

6077
03:15:02,132 --> 03:15:03,634
particular follow up. I'm not

6078
03:15:03,634 --> 03:15:05,350
interested in a breakdown of

6079
03:15:05,350 --> 03:15:06,703
what the district believes.

6080
03:15:06,703 --> 03:15:07,971
What good comes of this or what

6081
03:15:07,971 --> 03:15:10,808
bad comes of this. I don't need

6082
03:15:10,808 --> 03:15:13,343
the commentary. I just want a,

6083
03:15:13,343 --> 03:15:15,179
a follow up outlining the

6084
03:15:15,179 --> 03:15:17,280
specific options for parents

6085
03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:19,820
who want to just the facts who

6086
03:15:19,820 --> 03:15:20,350
want to opt out. That's all I'm

6087
03:15:20,350 --> 03:15:22,286
interested in. If DR. Holness

6088
03:15:22,286 --> 03:15:23,754
needs a follow up with his

6089
03:15:23,754 --> 03:15:25,922
inquiries, that's fine, but on

6090
03:15:25,922 --> 03:15:28,250
my follow up, I just need it

6091
03:15:28,250 --> 03:15:29,793
specifically what I asked and I

6092
03:15:29,793 --> 03:15:30,928
and I would note and close with

6093
03:15:30,928 --> 03:15:32,529
this teacher. Autonomy is very

6094
03:15:32,529 --> 03:15:33,497
important to me. I've never

6095
03:15:33,497 --> 03:15:34,932
taught, but certainly I've

6096
03:15:34,932 --> 03:15:36,330
dealt with enough teachers

6097
03:15:36,330 --> 03:15:37,167
throughout the course of my

6098
03:15:37,167 --> 03:15:39,690
life, including the time on

6099
03:15:39,690 --> 03:15:40,404
this board. And I understand

6100
03:15:40,404 --> 03:15:42,106
that they are the captains, if

6101
03:15:42,106 --> 03:15:43,908
you will, of their classrooms

6102
03:15:43,908 --> 03:15:45,576
and them having the autonomy to

6103
03:15:45,576 --> 03:15:46,843
decide what their curriculum

6104
03:15:46,843 --> 03:15:48,212
looks like is certainly

6105
03:15:48,212 --> 03:15:49,346
something that needs to be

6106
03:15:49,346 --> 03:15:51,820
respected, as well as the

6107
03:15:51,820 --> 03:15:53,651
rights of parents in deciding

6108
03:15:53,651 --> 03:15:55,519
what is best for their kids.

6109
03:15:55,519 --> 03:15:56,253
These are all important

6110
03:15:56,253 --> 03:15:57,788
mandates that we need to adhere

6111
03:15:57,788 --> 03:15:57,955
to in Broward schools. Thank

6112
03:15:57,955 --> 03:15:59,560
you.

6113
03:15:59,560 --> 03:16:01,859
>> All right. Thank you. Any

6114
03:16:01,859 --> 03:16:04,259
other board discussion? All

6115
03:16:04,795 --> 03:16:06,930
right. Thank you to our chairs

6116
03:16:06,930 --> 03:16:08,933
and staff. The next item is

6117
03:16:08,933 --> 03:16:10,534
Broward powered by ai vision

6118
03:16:10,534 --> 03:16:12,934
and system readiness. We'll

6119
03:16:13,838 --> 03:16:16,838
briefly recess just to to

6120
03:16:30,540 --> 03:16:32,540
transition.

6121
03:17:37,339 --> 03:17:37,573
[Music]

6122
03:17:37,573 --> 03:17:37,807
[Music]

6123
03:17:37,807 --> 03:17:38,107
[Music]

6124
03:17:38,107 --> 03:17:38,340
[Music]

6125
03:17:38,340 --> 03:17:38,574
[Music]

6126
03:17:38,574 --> 03:17:40,309
[Music]

6127
03:17:40,309 --> 03:17:42,478
Welcome back. Our next item is

6128
03:17:42,478 --> 03:17:44,279
Broward powered by ai vision

6129
03:17:44,279 --> 03:17:46,448
and system readiness. I now

6130
03:17:46,448 --> 03:17:48,284
turn it over to staff for a

6131
03:17:48,284 --> 03:17:49,485
presentation.

6132
03:17:49,485 --> 03:17:51,287
>> Thank you, MADAM Chair. Now

6133
03:17:51,287 --> 03:17:53,222
I'll turn it over to Doctor

6134
03:17:53,222 --> 03:17:56,222
Cohen and team for the

6135
03:18:03,399 --> 03:18:05,100
presentation.

6136
03:18:05,100 --> 03:18:06,969
>> Good morning. School board

6137
03:18:06,969 --> 03:18:08,969
members, chair and

6138
03:18:09,806 --> 03:18:11,607
superintendent. I'll start by

6139
03:18:11,607 --> 03:18:13,408
saying today it's not simply a

6140
03:18:13,408 --> 03:18:15,408
presentation about artificial

6141
03:18:16,312 --> 03:18:17,747
intelligence. It's a

6142
03:18:17,747 --> 03:18:19,549
presentation about leadership.

6143
03:18:19,549 --> 03:18:21,384
So every generation faces

6144
03:18:21,384 --> 03:18:23,119
moments when technology changes

6145
03:18:23,119 --> 03:18:25,321
the way people work,

6146
03:18:25,321 --> 03:18:28,321
communicate and learn. Can we

6147
03:18:29,626 --> 03:18:31,460
get the PowerPoint up? The

6148
03:18:31,460 --> 03:18:33,263
question for public education

6149
03:18:33,263 --> 03:18:34,697
has never been whether change

6150
03:18:34,697 --> 03:18:37,697
will come. The question is

6151
03:18:38,268 --> 03:18:40,360
whether we will help shape it.

6152
03:18:40,360 --> 03:18:41,700
And today we will share how

6153
03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:42,939
Broward County Public Schools

6154
03:18:42,939 --> 03:18:44,939
is approaching artificial

6155
03:18:45,475 --> 03:18:47,475
intelligence with intention,

6156
03:18:47,544 --> 03:18:49,445
with governance, transparency

6157
03:18:49,445 --> 03:18:51,180
and relentless focus on

6158
03:18:51,180 --> 03:18:53,717
students. This is not a

6159
03:18:53,717 --> 03:18:55,185
technology presentation. This

6160
03:18:55,185 --> 03:18:58,185
is a teacher and student

6161
03:18:59,488 --> 03:19:01,570
opportunity presentation. And

6162
03:19:01,570 --> 03:19:02,392
like most districts, Broward

6163
03:19:02,392 --> 03:19:03,727
County Public Schools is

6164
03:19:03,727 --> 03:19:06,362
operating during one of the

6165
03:19:06,362 --> 03:19:07,797
most significant educational

6166
03:19:07,797 --> 03:19:09,797
transformation shifts in

6167
03:19:10,667 --> 03:19:12,469
workforce history. Artificial

6168
03:19:12,469 --> 03:19:14,270
intelligence, immersive

6169
03:19:14,270 --> 03:19:16,720
technologies, automation, and

6170
03:19:16,720 --> 03:19:18,720
digital transformation are

6171
03:19:18,308 --> 03:19:20,277
reshaping nearly every position

6172
03:19:20,277 --> 03:19:21,511
of our students and will and

6173
03:19:21,511 --> 03:19:23,279
what they will encounter as

6174
03:19:23,279 --> 03:19:25,470
they move into the workforce.

6175
03:19:25,470 --> 03:19:27,284
Our responsibility is not

6176
03:19:27,284 --> 03:19:28,585
simply to expose students to

6177
03:19:28,585 --> 03:19:30,353
technology. Our responsibility

6178
03:19:30,353 --> 03:19:31,887
is to prepare them to thrive in

6179
03:19:31,887 --> 03:19:34,900
a world being transformed by

6180
03:19:34,900 --> 03:19:35,524
technology. So today's

6181
03:19:35,524 --> 03:19:37,524
presentation outlines our

6182
03:19:37,660 --> 03:19:39,660
vision, our implementation

6183
03:19:40,196 --> 03:19:41,898
strategy, our safeguards, our

6184
03:19:41,898 --> 03:19:44,233
governance model, as well as

6185
03:19:44,233 --> 03:19:45,568
our future innovation roadmap.

6186
03:19:45,568 --> 03:19:46,669
Most importantly, it

6187
03:19:46,669 --> 03:19:48,138
demonstrates how Broward

6188
03:19:48,138 --> 03:19:50,538
intends to lead responsibly

6189
03:19:51,408 --> 03:19:54,243
rather than react passively. In

6190
03:19:54,243 --> 03:19:56,643
this presentation unfolds three

6191
03:19:56,813 --> 03:19:58,182
connected parts. First, we'll

6192
03:19:58,182 --> 03:20:00,182
discuss why technology

6193
03:20:00,684 --> 03:20:02,684
evolution requires educational

6194
03:20:03,187 --> 03:20:05,355
evolution. Then we'll move into

6195
03:20:05,355 --> 03:20:07,524
how we demonstrate how Broward

6196
03:20:07,524 --> 03:20:08,959
has built an infrastructure,

6197
03:20:08,959 --> 03:20:10,427
professional learning systems,

6198
03:20:10,427 --> 03:20:11,128
governance structures and

6199
03:20:11,128 --> 03:20:12,996
implementation supports

6200
03:20:12,996 --> 03:20:15,466
necessary to respond and deploy

6201
03:20:15,466 --> 03:20:16,533
ai. Third, we will share our

6202
03:20:16,533 --> 03:20:18,335
vision around the Nova

6203
03:20:18,335 --> 03:20:19,803
Innovation Zone, which is a

6204
03:20:19,803 --> 03:20:21,204
transformative model that

6205
03:20:21,204 --> 03:20:23,604
reimagines learning for the

6206
03:20:25,242 --> 03:20:27,100
future workforce. I'd like you

6207
03:20:27,100 --> 03:20:30,948
to take a moment to look at

6208
03:20:30,948 --> 03:20:31,682
this particular slide. It

6209
03:20:31,682 --> 03:20:32,749
demonstrates that our

6210
03:20:32,749 --> 03:20:34,749
kindergarten students today

6211
03:20:36,153 --> 03:20:37,822
were born in 2019. Our middle

6212
03:20:37,822 --> 03:20:39,222
school students were born in

6213
03:20:39,222 --> 03:20:41,622
2012, and our high school

6214
03:20:42,493 --> 03:20:43,928
students were born around 2009.

6215
03:20:43,928 --> 03:20:46,797
In many of our post-secondary

6216
03:20:46,797 --> 03:20:48,599
learners were born around 2004.

6217
03:20:48,599 --> 03:20:50,767
Now look at the technology

6218
03:20:50,767 --> 03:20:52,168
timeline beneath them. The

6219
03:20:52,168 --> 03:20:54,568
students sitting in our

6220
03:20:54,671 --> 03:20:56,507
classrooms today have never

6221
03:20:56,507 --> 03:20:57,742
experienced the same world. Our

6222
03:20:57,742 --> 03:20:59,744
middle school students entered

6223
03:20:59,744 --> 03:21:01,512
a world shaped by cloud

6224
03:21:01,512 --> 03:21:02,980
technology and connected

6225
03:21:02,980 --> 03:21:04,415
devices. Our elementary

6226
03:21:04,415 --> 03:21:05,849
students are growing up with

6227
03:21:05,849 --> 03:21:07,849
artificial intelligence,

6228
03:21:07,985 --> 03:21:09,453
immersive technology, and

6229
03:21:09,453 --> 03:21:11,289
digital assistants already

6230
03:21:11,289 --> 03:21:13,240
embedded into their daily lives,

6231
03:21:13,240 --> 03:21:14,826
and our youngest learners will

6232
03:21:14,826 --> 03:21:17,826
graduate into careers that have

6233
03:21:18,463 --> 03:21:20,231
not yet been invented. That

6234
03:21:20,231 --> 03:21:21,699
realization is extremely

6235
03:21:21,699 --> 03:21:23,700
important because when we

6236
03:21:23,700 --> 03:21:24,936
discuss artificial intelligence,

6237
03:21:24,936 --> 03:21:27,438
we are not discussing the

6238
03:21:27,438 --> 03:21:28,473
future possibility. We're

6239
03:21:28,473 --> 03:21:30,873
discussing the world our

6240
03:21:31,375 --> 03:21:32,844
students already inhabit. Every

6241
03:21:32,844 --> 03:21:34,245
generation of our students has

6242
03:21:34,245 --> 03:21:36,245
encountered technologies that

6243
03:21:36,446 --> 03:21:38,846
seemed disruptive at times,

6244
03:21:38,949 --> 03:21:40,751
from television to cell phones.

6245
03:21:40,751 --> 03:21:43,254
And you heard from today

6246
03:21:43,254 --> 03:21:45,254
beepers, smartphones, cloud

6247
03:21:46,524 --> 03:21:48,924
computing, social media. Each

6248
03:21:49,360 --> 03:21:51,360
arrival created uncertainty.

6249
03:21:52,630 --> 03:21:55,300
Each arrival created concern.

6250
03:21:55,133 --> 03:21:56,935
But history shows us something

6251
03:21:56,935 --> 03:21:58,803
important. Schools and

6252
03:21:58,803 --> 03:22:00,905
districts have to adapt to

6253
03:22:00,905 --> 03:22:02,339
those expanded opportunities.

6254
03:22:02,339 --> 03:22:03,808
Schools that ignore change

6255
03:22:03,808 --> 03:22:05,808
eventually find themselves

6256
03:22:05,943 --> 03:22:07,746
trying to catch up. The

6257
03:22:07,746 --> 03:22:09,470
question before us today is not

6258
03:22:09,470 --> 03:22:11,470
whether artificial intelligence

6259
03:22:11,716 --> 03:22:14,116
will influence education. It

6260
03:22:14,619 --> 03:22:15,787
already has. The question is

6261
03:22:15,787 --> 03:22:17,121
whether Broward County Public

6262
03:22:17,121 --> 03:22:19,257
Schools will help shape how

6263
03:22:19,257 --> 03:22:21,657
students use these tools

6264
03:22:22,127 --> 03:22:24,127
responsibly, ethically and

6265
03:22:24,329 --> 03:22:25,797
prododtively. B Becau ourur

6266
03:22:25,797 --> 03:22:27,331
ststenen are alreaea

6267
03:22:27,331 --> 03:22:29,401
ininteractgg w withii when they

6268
03:22:29,401 --> 03:22:30,835
search online, when they

6269
03:22:30,835 --> 03:22:32,835
receive recommendations on

6270
03:22:33,338 --> 03:22:35,840
social media, when they use

6271
03:22:35,840 --> 03:22:37,308
navigation tools, and when they

6272
03:22:37,308 --> 03:22:39,308
communicate through digital

6273
03:22:39,744 --> 03:22:42,380
platforms, and when they engage

6274
03:22:42,380 --> 03:22:43,815
in emerging workforce

6275
03:22:43,815 --> 03:22:45,815
technologies. The technology

6276
03:22:46,551 --> 03:22:48,850
has arrived. Our responsibility

6277
03:22:48,850 --> 03:22:49,988
is not to decide whether it

6278
03:22:49,988 --> 03:22:51,323
exists. Our responsibility is

6279
03:22:51,323 --> 03:22:53,458
to decide whether we prepare

6280
03:22:53,458 --> 03:22:55,760
students to live, work and lead

6281
03:22:55,760 --> 03:22:57,529
in a world where it does. That

6282
03:22:57,529 --> 03:22:59,264
is why Broward, powered by ai,

6283
03:22:59,264 --> 03:23:01,980
is fundamentally not the

6284
03:23:01,980 --> 03:23:02,500
technology initiative. It is a

6285
03:23:02,500 --> 03:23:04,302
student readiness initiative.

6286
03:23:04,302 --> 03:23:05,770
It is a workforce readiness

6287
03:23:05,770 --> 03:23:07,272
initiative. It is an

6288
03:23:07,272 --> 03:23:08,606
opportunity initiative. And

6289
03:23:08,606 --> 03:23:10,175
most importantly, it's a

6290
03:23:10,175 --> 03:23:12,175
leadership initiative because

6291
03:23:13,278 --> 03:23:15,678
every generation of educational

6292
03:23:15,780 --> 03:23:17,616
leaders faces a defining

6293
03:23:17,616 --> 03:23:18,784
question Will we prepare

6294
03:23:18,784 --> 03:23:22,540
students for the world we grew

6295
03:23:22,540 --> 03:23:25,990
up in or for the world they

6296
03:23:25,990 --> 03:23:26,992
will inherit? So today, my hope

6297
03:23:26,992 --> 03:23:28,360
is that Broward County Public

6298
03:23:28,360 --> 03:23:29,561
Schools is choosing to prepare

6299
03:23:29,561 --> 03:23:32,798
our students for the world they

6300
03:23:32,798 --> 03:23:36,100
will inherit. And so I want to

6301
03:23:36,100 --> 03:23:37,436
kick off first. We'll

6302
03:23:37,436 --> 03:23:39,238
transition a little bit

6303
03:23:39,238 --> 03:23:41,730
differently due to timing. I'm

6304
03:23:41,730 --> 03:23:42,240
going to have our students

6305
03:23:42,240 --> 03:23:44,609
speak. And then following that,

6306
03:23:44,609 --> 03:23:47,512
I'm going to have one of our

6307
03:23:47,512 --> 03:23:49,912
community members follow that

6308
03:23:51,116 --> 03:23:54,116
presentation. So can we start

6309
03:23:56,155 --> 03:23:59,755
with where is our start with

6310
03:24:02,261 --> 03:24:04,261
you?

6311
03:24:04,429 --> 03:24:05,498
>> Alrighty. Good morning

6312
03:24:05,498 --> 03:24:06,699
superintendent. School board

6313
03:24:06,699 --> 03:24:09,468
members. Much as I wish I was

6314
03:24:09,468 --> 03:24:11,269
still a student, I'm not. My

6315
03:24:11,269 --> 03:24:13,239
name is Joe Cox. I'm a

6316
03:24:13,239 --> 03:24:16,275
PRESIDENT And ceo of the Museum

6317
03:24:16,275 --> 03:24:18,444
of Discovery and Science. When

6318
03:24:18,444 --> 03:24:20,612
people talk about artificial

6319
03:24:20,612 --> 03:24:23,120
intelligence, they often ask

6320
03:24:24,216 --> 03:24:25,284
what ai will do to us at the

6321
03:24:25,284 --> 03:24:27,487
museum. We're becoming much

6322
03:24:27,487 --> 03:24:29,221
more interested in a different

6323
03:24:29,221 --> 03:24:32,221
question. What will we choose

6324
03:24:32,458 --> 03:24:33,793
to do with ai? Artificial

6325
03:24:33,793 --> 03:24:35,793
intelligence is transforming

6326
03:24:36,950 --> 03:24:37,964
our world. It's changing how

6327
03:24:37,964 --> 03:24:39,632
businesses operate, how

6328
03:24:39,632 --> 03:24:42,320
scientific discoveries are made,

6329
03:24:43,302 --> 03:24:44,937
how we learn, and how we teach.

6330
03:24:44,937 --> 03:24:46,571
These young students graduating

6331
03:24:46,571 --> 03:24:47,673
from Broward County Public

6332
03:24:47,673 --> 03:24:50,109
Schools will enter a world

6333
03:24:50,109 --> 03:24:52,345
where ai is not a future

6334
03:24:52,345 --> 03:24:53,713
technology. It's part of the

6335
03:24:53,713 --> 03:24:56,113
workforce, the economy, and

6336
03:24:56,582 --> 03:24:57,483
daily life. This makes

6337
03:24:57,483 --> 03:24:59,483
initiatives like Broward

6338
03:24:59,851 --> 03:25:01,988
powered by ai incredibly

6339
03:25:01,988 --> 03:25:03,560
important, because the goal is

6340
03:25:03,560 --> 03:25:04,924
much more than teaching

6341
03:25:04,924 --> 03:25:07,924
students and teachers how to

6342
03:25:08,127 --> 03:25:09,629
use ai tools. The goal must be

6343
03:25:09,629 --> 03:25:11,300
helping them to develop the

6344
03:25:11,300 --> 03:25:13,166
judgment, to question these

6345
03:25:13,166 --> 03:25:15,100
tools, the creativity to

6346
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:17,503
improve them, and the character

6347
03:25:17,503 --> 03:25:18,938
to use them responsibly. At

6348
03:25:18,938 --> 03:25:21,474
mods, we've been exploring this

6349
03:25:21,474 --> 03:25:24,109
challenge quite a bit. Our very

6350
03:25:24,109 --> 03:25:25,410
first ai exhibit, a 200 zero

6351
03:25:25,410 --> 03:25:27,212
square foot immersive

6352
03:25:27,212 --> 03:25:29,820
Everglades Theater, part of our

6353
03:25:29,820 --> 03:25:31,885
new Build a Better World

6354
03:25:31,885 --> 03:25:33,686
exhibit opens this Thursday.

6355
03:25:33,686 --> 03:25:36,256
We're examining in the exhibit

6356
03:25:36,256 --> 03:25:38,758
how ai can help communities

6357
03:25:38,758 --> 03:25:40,527
address complex environmental

6358
03:25:40,527 --> 03:25:42,362
challenges, while encouraging

6359
03:25:42,362 --> 03:25:44,762
visitors to think critically

6360
03:25:44,898 --> 03:25:47,366
about the choices we make as a

6361
03:25:47,366 --> 03:25:49,536
society. This coming school

6362
03:25:49,536 --> 03:25:51,705
year, we're launching new ai

6363
03:25:51,705 --> 03:25:53,173
literacy initiatives that will

6364
03:25:53,173 --> 03:25:55,408
explore both the opportunities

6365
03:25:55,408 --> 03:25:57,444
and responsibilities that come

6366
03:25:57,444 --> 03:25:59,211
with these technologies through

6367
03:25:59,211 --> 03:26:01,514
hands on learning labs, both at

6368
03:26:01,514 --> 03:26:03,549
the museum and in schools, as

6369
03:26:03,549 --> 03:26:05,451
well as at events like our free

6370
03:26:05,451 --> 03:26:07,451
Visit Lauderdale Science

6371
03:26:07,920 --> 03:26:09,220
Festival. Most importantly,

6372
03:26:09,220 --> 03:26:11,525
perhaps, we are part of a

6373
03:26:11,525 --> 03:26:13,600
national conversation and

6374
03:26:13,600 --> 03:26:14,760
fingers crossed. Hoping to host

6375
03:26:14,760 --> 03:26:17,263
a national conference in the

6376
03:26:17,263 --> 03:26:19,663
fall. Among science centers,

6377
03:26:20,166 --> 03:26:21,635
children's museums, educators,

6378
03:26:21,635 --> 03:26:23,635
researchers, and community

6379
03:26:23,770 --> 03:26:26,673
leaders about how we build not

6380
03:26:26,673 --> 03:26:28,808
just ai literacy, but public

6381
03:26:28,808 --> 03:26:30,277
agency in an age of artificial

6382
03:26:30,277 --> 03:26:31,812
intelligence. Because

6383
03:26:31,812 --> 03:26:33,847
ultimately, the future cannot

6384
03:26:33,847 --> 03:26:35,983
be shaped by artificial

6385
03:26:35,983 --> 03:26:37,417
intelligence alone. It must be

6386
03:26:37,417 --> 03:26:39,586
shaped by the human

6387
03:26:39,586 --> 03:26:41,586
intelligence, creativity, and

6388
03:26:41,755 --> 03:26:43,923
character that we bring to it.

6389
03:26:43,923 --> 03:26:46,590
At the museum. We are talking

6390
03:26:46,590 --> 03:26:48,228
recently, often about four

6391
03:26:48,228 --> 03:26:50,228
essential qualities the

6392
03:26:50,397 --> 03:26:51,799
critical thinking needed to

6393
03:26:51,799 --> 03:26:53,799
evaluate information and

6394
03:26:54,333 --> 03:26:55,435
challenge assumptions, the

6395
03:26:55,435 --> 03:26:57,237
cooperation to solve problems

6396
03:26:57,237 --> 03:27:00,237
that no single person or

6397
03:27:00,474 --> 03:27:02,408
technology can solve. Caring to

6398
03:27:02,408 --> 03:27:04,808
ensure innovation serves people

6399
03:27:04,811 --> 03:27:06,947
and their communities, and the

6400
03:27:06,947 --> 03:27:08,150
confidence to engage with new

6401
03:27:08,150 --> 03:27:10,150
technologies thoughtfully

6402
03:27:11,251 --> 03:27:13,520
rather than fearfully. When we

6403
03:27:13,520 --> 03:27:14,888
get this right, Broward,

6404
03:27:14,888 --> 03:27:17,458
powered by ai, will do more

6405
03:27:17,458 --> 03:27:19,559
than prepare students to use ai.

6406
03:27:19,559 --> 03:27:21,395
It will develop citizens who

6407
03:27:21,395 --> 03:27:23,795
understand it, question it,

6408
03:27:23,864 --> 03:27:25,699
improve it, and ensures that it

6409
03:27:25,699 --> 03:27:27,100
serves the public good. We're

6410
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:28,903
excited to be part of this

6411
03:27:28,903 --> 03:27:30,337
process because that's a future

6412
03:27:30,337 --> 03:27:32,737
world worth building together.

6413
03:27:35,843 --> 03:27:37,178
Thank you. Thanks, everyone.

6414
03:27:37,178 --> 03:27:38,378
>> Lily.

6415
03:27:38,378 --> 03:27:40,314
>> Okay, first of all, I love

6416
03:27:40,314 --> 03:27:42,183
that museum. I feel like I just

6417
03:27:42,183 --> 03:27:43,450
heard a celebrity speak, so I

6418
03:27:43,450 --> 03:27:45,319
went to that ai exhibit. It was

6419
03:27:45,319 --> 03:27:46,453
so cool. So I'm just. That's

6420
03:27:46,453 --> 03:27:48,189
all I'm gonna say about that.

6421
03:27:48,189 --> 03:27:49,189
>> It clearly did something

6422
03:27:49,189 --> 03:27:50,358
good. So thank you.

6423
03:27:50,358 --> 03:27:52,359
>> So cool. Everyone needs to

6424
03:27:52,359 --> 03:27:54,195
go do it. Okay, so I'm going to

6425
03:27:54,195 --> 03:27:55,196
begin with a quote from Ralph

6426
03:27:55,196 --> 03:27:56,664
Waldo Emerson. Fear always

6427
03:27:56,664 --> 03:27:58,299
springs from ignorance. And I

6428
03:27:58,299 --> 03:27:59,433
don't mean that in a hateful

6429
03:27:59,433 --> 03:28:01,402
way. I know ignorance is kind

6430
03:28:01,402 --> 03:28:03,304
of thrown around in a mean way.

6431
03:28:03,304 --> 03:28:04,605
I don't mean it like that, but

6432
03:28:04,605 --> 03:28:05,606
it is the lack of education and

6433
03:28:05,606 --> 03:28:07,441
understanding of something. And

6434
03:28:07,441 --> 03:28:09,310
when it comes to ai, I think

6435
03:28:09,310 --> 03:28:10,311
it's better that we teach our

6436
03:28:10,311 --> 03:28:11,746
students that just because

6437
03:28:11,746 --> 03:28:14,348
something is new does not mean

6438
03:28:14,348 --> 03:28:16,450
it needs to be scary. So I have

6439
03:28:16,450 --> 03:28:17,919
a question, guys. I love asking

6440
03:28:17,919 --> 03:28:19,687
questions. It keeps people

6441
03:28:19,687 --> 03:28:21,888
engaged. How many people in

6442
03:28:21,888 --> 03:28:22,889
this room have honestly spent

6443
03:28:22,889 --> 03:28:24,392
time trying to understand ai?

6444
03:28:24,392 --> 03:28:25,459
And I don't mean I don't mean

6445
03:28:25,459 --> 03:28:27,328
you've played around with it

6446
03:28:27,328 --> 03:28:28,496
for a few hours. You've read a

6447
03:28:28,496 --> 03:28:30,498
little article. I mean weeks,

6448
03:28:30,498 --> 03:28:31,599
if not months on it. You have

6449
03:28:31,599 --> 03:28:33,734
genuinely put in time and

6450
03:28:33,734 --> 03:28:35,236
effort to fully understand it.

6451
03:28:35,236 --> 03:28:36,771
Okay, good. Good. Because me

6452
03:28:36,771 --> 03:28:37,872
too. I've taken classes on it.

6453
03:28:37,872 --> 03:28:40,872
I've written research papers on

6454
03:28:40,908 --> 03:28:43,444
it. I am all about it. So with

6455
03:28:43,444 --> 03:28:45,913
that, I say, why don't we give

6456
03:28:45,913 --> 03:28:47,810
that same time to our students,

6457
03:28:47,810 --> 03:28:48,983
right? Why don't we allow them

6458
03:28:48,983 --> 03:28:50,500
to deep dive into ai and show

6459
03:28:50,500 --> 03:28:51,953
them how powerful it is?

6460
03:28:51,953 --> 03:28:53,870
Because if you, all of you who

6461
03:28:53,870 --> 03:28:54,956
are raising your hands truly

6462
03:28:54,956 --> 03:28:56,570
have spent that much time on it,

6463
03:28:56,570 --> 03:28:57,892
you will understand the power

6464
03:28:57,892 --> 03:28:58,959
that ai has. Like we thought

6465
03:28:58,959 --> 03:29:01,129
computers were cool. This is

6466
03:29:01,129 --> 03:29:02,864
something completely different

6467
03:29:02,864 --> 03:29:04,499
as our gifted advisory council,

6468
03:29:04,499 --> 03:29:06,133
who I think has now left but

6469
03:29:06,133 --> 03:29:07,969
had mentioned earlier, he

6470
03:29:07,969 --> 03:29:09,304
wanted to see specific ways

6471
03:29:09,304 --> 03:29:10,405
that it could be used. Right?

6472
03:29:10,405 --> 03:29:12,372
Because I think everyone talks

6473
03:29:12,372 --> 03:29:13,575
ai is good, ai is good, but we

6474
03:29:13,575 --> 03:29:14,709
don't get into the specifics.

6475
03:29:14,709 --> 03:29:16,544
So Los Angeles Unified School

6476
03:29:16,544 --> 03:29:18,346
District has a 247 student

6477
03:29:18,346 --> 03:29:20,614
advisor, not a student advisors,

6478
03:29:20,614 --> 03:29:21,583
but advisor to students to help

6479
03:29:21,583 --> 03:29:23,983
them better understand the

6480
03:29:24,486 --> 03:29:26,654
college process. Along with

6481
03:29:26,654 --> 03:29:27,722
Albuquerque, who the school

6482
03:29:27,722 --> 03:29:28,789
board in Albuquerque who has

6483
03:29:28,789 --> 03:29:29,658
adapted lesson plans

6484
03:29:29,658 --> 03:29:31,658
specifically to students

6485
03:29:32,427 --> 03:29:34,196
through ai and Miami-Dade, who

6486
03:29:34,196 --> 03:29:35,997
has an ai powered S.A.T. Prep

6487
03:29:35,997 --> 03:29:38,166
bot available to all of their

6488
03:29:38,166 --> 03:29:39,200
students. Additionally, ai bots

6489
03:29:39,200 --> 03:29:40,502
have allowed students with

6490
03:29:40,502 --> 03:29:42,137
autism and adhd to practice

6491
03:29:42,137 --> 03:29:43,905
real life scenarios and social

6492
03:29:43,905 --> 03:29:45,600
settings. I think our Esq

6493
03:29:45,600 --> 03:29:47,174
representative has also left,

6494
03:29:47,174 --> 03:29:48,309
but I'm sure she would love. Oh,

6495
03:29:48,309 --> 03:29:50,178
have you heard about those?

6496
03:29:50,178 --> 03:29:51,246
Have you seen those? No, it's a

6497
03:29:51,246 --> 03:29:53,681
thing. It's coming for our

6498
03:29:53,681 --> 03:29:56,151
students. It's great. And I

6499
03:29:56,151 --> 03:29:57,853
think overall we need to show

6500
03:29:57,853 --> 03:29:58,820
students how to use it as a

6501
03:29:58,820 --> 03:30:00,855
tutor. That's personally what

6502
03:30:00,855 --> 03:30:02,190
I've done. I actually have an

6503
03:30:02,190 --> 03:30:03,792
example to give you guys. I'm

6504
03:30:03,792 --> 03:30:04,993
terrible at math, terrible. And

6505
03:30:04,993 --> 03:30:06,595
I'm incredibly embarrassed

6506
03:30:06,595 --> 03:30:08,429
about it because I forget what

6507
03:30:08,429 --> 03:30:09,798
math terms are. And my teacher

6508
03:30:09,798 --> 03:30:10,899
will tell me, obviously I know

6509
03:30:10,899 --> 03:30:12,670
what fractions are, but just

6510
03:30:12,670 --> 03:30:12,801
for an example, they'll say you

6511
03:30:12,801 --> 03:30:13,835
have

6512
03:30:13,835 --> 03:30:15,937
>> For these fractions. I'm

6513
03:30:15,937 --> 03:30:17,806
like, I forgot what that is. So

6514
03:30:17,806 --> 03:30:19,908
this is copilot, which is what

6515
03:30:19,908 --> 03:30:22,110
Broward uses. And I put in some

6516
03:30:22,110 --> 03:30:23,212
old an old math lesson. My

6517
03:30:23,212 --> 03:30:24,746
teacher would put up the

6518
03:30:24,746 --> 03:30:25,881
presentation and the work on a

6519
03:30:25,881 --> 03:30:27,883
pdf. You can download it and

6520
03:30:27,883 --> 03:30:29,751
look over it. I looked at that

6521
03:30:29,751 --> 03:30:30,853
for a second. I was like, I

6522
03:30:30,853 --> 03:30:32,821
don't even remember what this

6523
03:30:32,821 --> 03:30:33,989
is. I put it into ai, and as

6524
03:30:33,989 --> 03:30:35,824
I'm scrolling up here, I don't

6525
03:30:35,824 --> 03:30:36,992
know if everyone can see. It

6526
03:30:36,992 --> 03:30:37,859
gave me practice problems. It

6527
03:30:37,859 --> 03:30:38,860
explained it in

6528
03:30:38,860 --> 03:30:40,620
non-mathematical terms for me

6529
03:30:40,620 --> 03:30:41,797
who does not always understand

6530
03:30:41,797 --> 03:30:42,930
them. And I went through and I

6531
03:30:42,930 --> 03:30:44,767
fully relearned this lesson

6532
03:30:44,767 --> 03:30:45,834
that I forgot what was going on.

6533
03:30:45,834 --> 03:30:46,935
And it's important that we

6534
03:30:46,935 --> 03:30:48,771
teach our students how to do

6535
03:30:48,771 --> 03:30:50,139
this. I've spent probably two

6536
03:30:50,139 --> 03:30:51,940
years now learning all about ai

6537
03:30:51,940 --> 03:30:54,420
and deeply understanding it,

6538
03:30:54,420 --> 03:30:55,110
and I can use it as a tool now.

6539
03:30:55,110 --> 03:30:56,978
And our students should be

6540
03:30:56,978 --> 03:30:57,713
taught to do the same.

6541
03:30:57,713 --> 03:30:59,713
>> Hey.

6542
03:31:00,916 --> 03:31:01,183
>> Great job Lilly. Great job.

6543
03:31:01,183 --> 03:31:03,183
[Laughter]

6544
03:31:04,987 --> 03:31:06,355
Over the past year or so. I've

6545
03:31:06,355 --> 03:31:08,190
had a lot of conversations with

6546
03:31:08,190 --> 03:31:09,658
students across the district.

6547
03:31:09,658 --> 03:31:11,760
And I would say one thing is

6548
03:31:11,760 --> 03:31:12,995
very, very clear. Students

6549
03:31:12,995 --> 03:31:14,997
understand both the potential

6550
03:31:14,997 --> 03:31:16,932
of ai and the dangers if it's

6551
03:31:16,932 --> 03:31:18,601
used the wrong way. I like to

6552
03:31:18,601 --> 03:31:20,436
look at the bad and the good

6553
03:31:20,436 --> 03:31:23,639
and kind of, you know, find

6554
03:31:23,639 --> 03:31:25,107
them in between. So that's not

6555
03:31:25,107 --> 03:31:26,475
just only high schoolers.

6556
03:31:26,475 --> 03:31:29,100
Middle school students are also

6557
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:32,248
using these tools as well, even

6558
03:31:32,248 --> 03:31:34,490
off more often than we realize

6559
03:31:34,490 --> 03:31:35,851
now, I was trying to find

6560
03:31:35,851 --> 03:31:37,320
district related data

6561
03:31:37,320 --> 03:31:38,721
surrounding this, and I could

6562
03:31:38,721 --> 03:31:40,623
not. So I found a national

6563
03:31:40,623 --> 03:31:43,392
survey that shows over 60% of

6564
03:31:43,392 --> 03:31:45,228
high schoolers have used ai for

6565
03:31:45,228 --> 03:31:46,729
schoolwork. But what surprises

6566
03:31:46,729 --> 03:31:48,130
people is that more than one

6567
03:31:48,130 --> 03:31:50,599
third of middle school students

6568
03:31:50,599 --> 03:31:52,435
report using ai as well, which

6569
03:31:52,435 --> 03:31:54,236
usually without any real

6570
03:31:54,236 --> 03:31:56,205
guidance, can turn out really

6571
03:31:56,205 --> 03:31:57,640
bad. And almost half of all of

6572
03:31:57,640 --> 03:31:59,608
the students are saying they

6573
03:31:59,608 --> 03:32:02,512
are unsure how to use ai

6574
03:32:02,512 --> 03:32:03,946
ethically or safely. And that

6575
03:32:03,946 --> 03:32:05,213
uncertainty. Uncertainty is

6576
03:32:05,213 --> 03:32:07,613
exactly why structured guidance

6577
03:32:07,950 --> 03:32:10,860
in schools matters. Students

6578
03:32:10,860 --> 03:32:12,522
know the risk. We know ai can

6579
03:32:12,522 --> 03:32:14,230
generate wrong information

6580
03:32:14,230 --> 03:32:15,925
confidently, very confidently,

6581
03:32:15,925 --> 03:32:17,827
and we know it can reflect bias.

6582
03:32:17,827 --> 03:32:19,620
We know it can make it easier

6583
03:32:19,620 --> 03:32:21,230
to take shortcuts if someone

6584
03:32:21,230 --> 03:32:23,320
chooses to. And we know that if

6585
03:32:23,320 --> 03:32:24,400
students rely on ai instead of

6586
03:32:24,400 --> 03:32:26,269
thinking for themselves, it

6587
03:32:26,269 --> 03:32:28,370
will hurt them in the long run.

6588
03:32:28,370 --> 03:32:29,906
And that's why students aren't

6589
03:32:29,906 --> 03:32:31,975
asking and we aren't asking for

6590
03:32:31,975 --> 03:32:33,476
unlimited access. That is not

6591
03:32:33,476 --> 03:32:35,411
what this is. It is not

6592
03:32:35,411 --> 03:32:37,411
unlimited access whatsoever.

6593
03:32:37,447 --> 03:32:39,615
We're asking for a structured

6594
03:32:39,615 --> 03:32:41,510
access with expectations,

6595
03:32:41,510 --> 03:32:42,119
guardrails, and teacher

6596
03:32:42,119 --> 03:32:44,287
guidance. Because when ai is

6597
03:32:44,287 --> 03:32:46,823
used the right way, it actually

6598
03:32:46,823 --> 03:32:48,291
strengthens learning. Now, for

6599
03:32:48,291 --> 03:32:49,793
example, when I'm working on a

6600
03:32:49,793 --> 03:32:51,494
writing assignment, someone

6601
03:32:51,494 --> 03:32:53,296
will use ai to brainstorm ideas

6602
03:32:53,296 --> 03:32:55,398
or get feedback on clarity. But

6603
03:32:55,398 --> 03:32:56,866
the actual thinking, the

6604
03:32:56,866 --> 03:32:58,368
analysis, the structure, the

6605
03:32:58,368 --> 03:33:00,469
voice, it's still coming from

6606
03:33:00,469 --> 03:33:02,639
that student and it helps the

6607
03:33:02,639 --> 03:33:03,706
person become stronger not to

6608
03:33:03,706 --> 03:33:05,274
avoid the work because they're

6609
03:33:05,274 --> 03:33:07,310
still doing the work themselves.

6610
03:33:07,310 --> 03:33:09,412
They're just getting more ideas

6611
03:33:09,412 --> 03:33:11,280
using ai. And even with those

6612
03:33:11,280 --> 03:33:13,215
tools, teachers remain the

6613
03:33:13,215 --> 03:33:15,184
center of all of our learning.

6614
03:33:15,184 --> 03:33:16,286
This is not replacing teachers

6615
03:33:16,286 --> 03:33:18,880
whatsoever. And when I was

6616
03:33:18,880 --> 03:33:19,556
looking through through the

6617
03:33:19,556 --> 03:33:21,570
presentation, I was kind of

6618
03:33:21,570 --> 03:33:22,792
skeptical at first. And then I

6619
03:33:22,792 --> 03:33:24,193
was starting to see things, see

6620
03:33:24,193 --> 03:33:26,363
analysis. I'm also on the ai

6621
03:33:26,363 --> 03:33:28,899
task force. So I was also, you

6622
03:33:28,899 --> 03:33:30,000
know, in the process of

6623
03:33:30,000 --> 03:33:32,400
reviewing these things and

6624
03:33:32,636 --> 03:33:35,360
reviewing these ethical things

6625
03:33:35,380 --> 03:33:36,840
that they are putting forth. So

6626
03:33:36,840 --> 03:33:38,609
students understand that these

6627
03:33:38,609 --> 03:33:39,709
tools are part of the future.

6628
03:33:39,709 --> 03:33:41,545
Colleges and employers are

6629
03:33:41,545 --> 03:33:42,946
already integrating ai into

6630
03:33:42,946 --> 03:33:44,946
research, communication, design

6631
03:33:45,149 --> 03:33:46,549
and operations. So if we don't

6632
03:33:46,549 --> 03:33:48,510
learn how to use ai responsibly

6633
03:33:48,510 --> 03:33:49,786
now, starting early as middle

6634
03:33:49,786 --> 03:33:51,255
school, we risk being

6635
03:33:51,255 --> 03:33:52,689
unprepared. We risk having our

6636
03:33:52,689 --> 03:33:53,957
students unprepared for the

6637
03:33:53,957 --> 03:33:55,559
real world. Which school is

6638
03:33:55,559 --> 03:33:57,930
supposed to do. So? From what

6639
03:33:57,930 --> 03:33:59,290
I've seen and what I've heard,

6640
03:33:59,290 --> 03:34:00,230
we want to learn how to use ai

6641
03:34:00,230 --> 03:34:01,365
in ways that helps us grow,

6642
03:34:01,365 --> 03:34:03,133
think critically, and prepare

6643
03:34:03,133 --> 03:34:04,268
us for the world we're stepping

6644
03:34:04,268 --> 03:34:05,969
into. With the right balance. I

6645
03:34:05,969 --> 03:34:07,104
believe ai can strengthen our

6646
03:34:07,104 --> 03:34:08,505
learning in Broward, not weaken

6647
03:34:08,505 --> 03:34:10,700
it, and help us help ensure

6648
03:34:10,700 --> 03:34:12,476
that all of our Broward

6649
03:34:12,476 --> 03:34:13,544
students can truly be future

6650
03:34:13,544 --> 03:34:15,944
ready. And that's something

6651
03:34:16,479 --> 03:34:18,482
that we all want in this room.

6652
03:34:18,482 --> 03:34:22,186
>> Thank you. If we can put the

6653
03:34:22,186 --> 03:34:23,654
slide deck back up. And so for

6654
03:34:23,654 --> 03:34:26,654
for more than a century,

6655
03:34:26,856 --> 03:34:29,256
schools were primarily designed

6656
03:34:30,460 --> 03:34:31,895
around seat time. And the

6657
03:34:31,895 --> 03:34:33,895
future demands something

6658
03:34:34,310 --> 03:34:35,466
somewhat different. Success

6659
03:34:35,466 --> 03:34:37,368
will increasingly be defined by

6660
03:34:37,368 --> 03:34:38,469
what students can do with that

6661
03:34:38,469 --> 03:34:39,836
knowledge, as you heard from

6662
03:34:39,836 --> 03:34:41,238
our student representatives.

6663
03:34:41,238 --> 03:34:43,407
And it's not simply what they

6664
03:34:43,407 --> 03:34:45,209
can memorize, we're moving

6665
03:34:45,209 --> 03:34:47,209
towards deeper application,

6666
03:34:47,345 --> 03:34:49,146
critical thinking, creativity,

6667
03:34:49,146 --> 03:34:51,146
problem solving, collaboration,

6668
03:34:51,715 --> 03:34:52,883
and ethical decision making in

6669
03:34:52,883 --> 03:34:54,883
artificial intelligence does

6670
03:34:54,952 --> 03:34:57,588
not diminish the need for those

6671
03:34:57,588 --> 03:34:58,522
skills. It increases their

6672
03:34:58,522 --> 03:35:00,290
importance. And because when

6673
03:35:00,290 --> 03:35:02,290
information becomes abundant,

6674
03:35:04,261 --> 03:35:06,130
judgment becomes invaluable.

6675
03:35:06,130 --> 03:35:07,865
And so innovation without

6676
03:35:07,865 --> 03:35:10,670
governance, as you heard,

6677
03:35:10,670 --> 03:35:12,236
creates those risks. Governance

6678
03:35:12,236 --> 03:35:14,236
without innovation creates

6679
03:35:14,372 --> 03:35:16,207
irrelevance. And the policy

6680
03:35:16,207 --> 03:35:19,207
exists to strike the proper

6681
03:35:19,444 --> 03:35:21,211
balance. The policy clearly

6682
03:35:21,211 --> 03:35:23,611
establishes what approved tools

6683
03:35:23,781 --> 03:35:25,781
human accountability, ethical

6684
03:35:26,984 --> 03:35:28,419
use, transparency, student

6685
03:35:28,419 --> 03:35:30,221
protections, and parent

6686
03:35:30,221 --> 03:35:32,389
communication. This is not a

6687
03:35:32,389 --> 03:35:34,158
policy designed to accelerate

6688
03:35:34,158 --> 03:35:35,960
technology. It is a policy

6689
03:35:35,960 --> 03:35:38,129
designed to protect students

6690
03:35:38,129 --> 03:35:40,129
while enabling responsible

6691
03:35:41,766 --> 03:35:45,336
innovation. And so let me be

6692
03:35:45,336 --> 03:35:47,171
clear ai is not replacing

6693
03:35:47,171 --> 03:35:48,739
teachers. It's not about

6694
03:35:48,739 --> 03:35:50,408
replacing relationships. It's

6695
03:35:50,408 --> 03:35:52,209
not about replacing human

6696
03:35:52,209 --> 03:35:54,609
judgment. Teachers remain the

6697
03:35:55,790 --> 03:35:56,314
most important variable in

6698
03:35:56,314 --> 03:35:58,314
understanding student learning

6699
03:35:58,416 --> 03:36:00,251
and. Our vision is simple.

6700
03:36:00,251 --> 03:36:01,286
Technology handles the routine

6701
03:36:01,286 --> 03:36:03,521
tasks. Educators spend more

6702
03:36:03,521 --> 03:36:05,255
time teaching, mentoring and

6703
03:36:05,255 --> 03:36:06,724
inspiring and building

6704
03:36:06,724 --> 03:36:08,526
relationships. Human

6705
03:36:08,526 --> 03:36:10,526
intelligence leads artificial

6706
03:36:12,530 --> 03:36:14,530
artificial intelligence assist.

6707
03:36:14,598 --> 03:36:16,801
And so one of the greatest risk

6708
03:36:16,801 --> 03:36:18,936
districts face is fragmented

6709
03:36:18,936 --> 03:36:21,839
innovation. And we've seen that

6710
03:36:21,839 --> 03:36:23,608
in large districts, separate

6711
03:36:23,608 --> 03:36:25,608
initiatives, separate training

6712
03:36:25,810 --> 03:36:27,810
systems, separate expectations,

6713
03:36:28,279 --> 03:36:30,679
separate outcomes. But powered

6714
03:36:30,849 --> 03:36:33,849
by ai is intentionally designed

6715
03:36:34,119 --> 03:36:36,221
with one coherent system ai, vr,

6716
03:36:36,221 --> 03:36:38,560
xr, professional learning,

6717
03:36:38,560 --> 03:36:40,560
governance, all connected

6718
03:36:40,892 --> 03:36:43,292
through a single blueprint.

6719
03:36:43,395 --> 03:36:44,829
This ensures consistency,

6720
03:36:44,829 --> 03:36:46,829
scalability, accountability,

6721
03:36:49,200 --> 03:36:50,569
and sustainability. In this

6722
03:36:50,569 --> 03:36:52,337
vision, without implementation

6723
03:36:52,337 --> 03:36:54,872
is merely aspirational. And so

6724
03:36:54,872 --> 03:36:56,641
what makes Broward different is

6725
03:36:56,641 --> 03:36:58,844
the infrastructure already in

6726
03:36:58,844 --> 03:37:01,646
place. And so what we have is

6727
03:37:01,646 --> 03:37:03,448
every school has ai liaisons,

6728
03:37:03,448 --> 03:37:05,448
professional learning pathways.

6729
03:37:06,170 --> 03:37:07,119
We also have a leader

6730
03:37:07,119 --> 03:37:09,119
professional pathway with

6731
03:37:09,254 --> 03:37:11,654
leadership ai standards. We

6732
03:37:11,824 --> 03:37:13,391
have stakeholder engagement. We

6733
03:37:13,391 --> 03:37:15,394
have evaluation systems. We

6734
03:37:15,394 --> 03:37:17,262
have implementation supports.

6735
03:37:17,262 --> 03:37:20,398
Our goal is not deployment. Our

6736
03:37:20,398 --> 03:37:21,800
goal is capacity building. And

6737
03:37:21,800 --> 03:37:24,336
we are building educators who

6738
03:37:24,336 --> 03:37:25,770
understand how to use ai

6739
03:37:25,770 --> 03:37:27,770
responsibly, effectively and

6740
03:37:29,341 --> 03:37:30,809
ethically. And over the past 18

6741
03:37:30,809 --> 03:37:32,809
months, Broward moved

6742
03:37:32,978 --> 03:37:35,147
deliberately. This work has

6743
03:37:35,147 --> 03:37:36,214
included stakeholder engagement,

6744
03:37:36,214 --> 03:37:38,214
governance, deployment,

6745
03:37:38,350 --> 03:37:40,350
training systems, policy

6746
03:37:40,919 --> 03:37:43,880
designs. Recently, we had ai

6747
03:37:43,880 --> 03:37:45,190
symposiums very well. Turned

6748
03:37:45,190 --> 03:37:46,592
out we had implementation

6749
03:37:46,592 --> 03:37:47,759
planning and we had we have

6750
03:37:47,759 --> 03:37:49,759
professional learning

6751
03:37:50,929 --> 03:37:52,865
frameworks. This has been about

6752
03:37:52,865 --> 03:37:55,265
not purchasing technology. And

6753
03:37:55,667 --> 03:37:58,537
we hear that a lot. It's more

6754
03:37:58,537 --> 03:38:00,673
about building readiness. And I

6755
03:38:00,673 --> 03:38:01,407
would like to introduce two

6756
03:38:01,407 --> 03:38:03,174
individuals who represent

6757
03:38:03,174 --> 03:38:05,574
members of our stakeholder

6758
03:38:05,744 --> 03:38:08,744
groups. One, a teacher, Donna

6759
03:38:15,454 --> 03:38:17,890
Maggio and Aaron Gold.

6760
03:38:17,890 --> 03:38:18,524
>> Hi, my name is Donna Maggio,

6761
03:38:18,524 --> 03:38:19,959
and I'm a media specialist and

6762
03:38:19,959 --> 03:38:21,527
an ai liaison at Coral Springs

6763
03:38:21,527 --> 03:38:22,995
High School. And I've been

6764
03:38:22,995 --> 03:38:24,429
teaching for 29 years. Like

6765
03:38:24,429 --> 03:38:25,531
many teachers, I initially

6766
03:38:25,531 --> 03:38:27,766
approached ai cautiously, but

6767
03:38:27,766 --> 03:38:28,767
this year, in my role as ai

6768
03:38:28,767 --> 03:38:30,569
liaison, I introduced Magic

6769
03:38:30,569 --> 03:38:31,637
School ai and during

6770
03:38:31,637 --> 03:38:33,637
Professional Development Day

6771
03:38:33,839 --> 03:38:35,307
and saw its impact firsthand.

6772
03:38:35,307 --> 03:38:36,475
And in ninth grade, reading

6773
03:38:36,475 --> 03:38:37,409
class. After teaching a skill

6774
03:38:37,409 --> 03:38:38,911
and reviewing student

6775
03:38:38,911 --> 03:38:40,279
assessment data, ai was used to

6776
03:38:40,279 --> 03:38:42,114
create teacher generated,

6777
03:38:42,114 --> 03:38:43,949
student centered activities to

6778
03:38:43,949 --> 03:38:44,984
reinforce and extend learning.

6779
03:38:44,984 --> 03:38:46,786
The ai platform helped to

6780
03:38:46,786 --> 03:38:48,540
quickly create differentiated

6781
03:38:48,540 --> 03:38:49,421
supports, vocabulary practice,

6782
03:38:49,421 --> 03:38:51,157
and reading activities tailored

6783
03:38:51,157 --> 03:38:52,725
to students at diverse levels

6784
03:38:52,725 --> 03:38:55,610
that help them both remediate

6785
03:38:55,610 --> 03:38:56,228
and enrich each skill. This

6786
03:38:56,228 --> 03:38:57,964
gave the teacher time more time

6787
03:38:57,964 --> 03:38:59,732
for individual feedback and

6788
03:38:59,732 --> 03:39:01,567
direct student support. The

6789
03:39:01,567 --> 03:39:02,568
result was stronger Pgm3

6790
03:39:02,568 --> 03:39:04,568
performance than originally

6791
03:39:04,737 --> 03:39:05,937
projected. Ai did not replace

6792
03:39:05,937 --> 03:39:08,400
the teacher. It created more

6793
03:39:08,400 --> 03:39:09,750
time for meaningful instruction,

6794
03:39:09,750 --> 03:39:10,175
individualized feedback, and

6795
03:39:10,175 --> 03:39:11,544
stronger connections with

6796
03:39:11,544 --> 03:39:13,120
students, while also making it

6797
03:39:13,120 --> 03:39:14,514
easier to differentiate

6798
03:39:14,514 --> 03:39:16,682
learning to meet a wider range

6799
03:39:16,682 --> 03:39:18,417
of needs. The most important

6800
03:39:18,417 --> 03:39:19,918
thing ai gives me is more time.

6801
03:39:19,918 --> 03:39:20,953
More time for relationships,

6802
03:39:20,953 --> 03:39:22,788
meaningful feedback, and the

6803
03:39:22,788 --> 03:39:24,557
kind of instruction that truly

6804
03:39:24,557 --> 03:39:25,758
meets students where they are.

6805
03:39:25,758 --> 03:39:27,560
Thank you for the opportunity

6806
03:39:27,560 --> 03:39:28,661
to speak. And I also want to

6807
03:39:28,661 --> 03:39:29,829
acknowledge I used copilot to

6808
03:39:29,829 --> 03:39:32,498
help refine the points I wanted

6809
03:39:32,498 --> 03:39:32,765
to share with you today.

6810
03:39:32,765 --> 03:39:33,566
[Laughter]

6811
03:39:33,566 --> 03:39:35,566
That's great.

6812
03:39:36,690 --> 03:39:38,690
>> Aaron, go.

6813
03:39:39,500 --> 03:39:40,440
>> Good afternoon. So one of my

6814
03:39:40,440 --> 03:39:41,841
favorite things about I'm chair

6815
03:39:41,841 --> 03:39:42,942
of the Parent Community

6816
03:39:42,942 --> 03:39:44,410
Involvement Task Force for the

6817
03:39:44,410 --> 03:39:45,911
district. And one of my very

6818
03:39:45,911 --> 03:39:48,311
favorite things about serving

6819
03:39:48,348 --> 03:39:49,815
on that body is that I get to

6820
03:39:49,815 --> 03:39:51,384
listen. I get to listen to

6821
03:39:51,384 --> 03:39:53,386
parents a lot, and I get to

6822
03:39:53,386 --> 03:39:55,155
hear what families are excited

6823
03:39:55,155 --> 03:39:56,756
about. I get to hear what

6824
03:39:56,756 --> 03:39:58,525
concerns them. I get to hear

6825
03:39:58,525 --> 03:40:00,193
what questions they are asking

6826
03:40:00,193 --> 03:40:01,293
and what they hope for their

6827
03:40:01,293 --> 03:40:02,796
children in their schools. So I

6828
03:40:02,796 --> 03:40:03,863
want to make sure we're

6829
03:40:03,863 --> 03:40:06,263
grounding this conversation in

6830
03:40:06,299 --> 03:40:08,168
that as well. Over the past

6831
03:40:08,168 --> 03:40:10,303
several weeks, I have listened

6832
03:40:10,303 --> 03:40:12,438
closely to parents at the ai

6833
03:40:12,438 --> 03:40:13,506
symposium and to the many

6834
03:40:13,506 --> 03:40:15,341
conversations since then. And

6835
03:40:15,341 --> 03:40:16,743
what I have heard is what

6836
03:40:16,743 --> 03:40:17,843
parents have always wanted from

6837
03:40:17,843 --> 03:40:19,412
their schools is what they

6838
03:40:19,412 --> 03:40:21,800
still want out of this. They

6839
03:40:21,800 --> 03:40:22,916
want their children to be safe.

6840
03:40:22,916 --> 03:40:24,317
They want them to be supported,

6841
03:40:24,317 --> 03:40:27,187
and they want them to be

6842
03:40:27,187 --> 03:40:29,356
prepared for for the future.

6843
03:40:29,356 --> 03:40:31,691
Parents understand that ai is

6844
03:40:31,691 --> 03:40:33,693
already here. Some are hopeful

6845
03:40:33,693 --> 03:40:35,462
and enthusiastic about its

6846
03:40:35,462 --> 03:40:36,930
potential. They see

6847
03:40:36,930 --> 03:40:38,765
opportunities to improve

6848
03:40:38,765 --> 03:40:39,833
district operations and

6849
03:40:39,833 --> 03:40:40,867
services to support

6850
03:40:40,867 --> 03:40:43,267
personalized learning like Lily

6851
03:40:43,770 --> 03:40:45,205
was talking about, to increase

6852
03:40:45,205 --> 03:40:47,700
accessibility and help students

6853
03:40:47,700 --> 03:40:49,943
develop skills they will need

6854
03:40:49,943 --> 03:40:51,711
beyond graduation. Some are

6855
03:40:51,711 --> 03:40:53,113
downright scared. This is

6856
03:40:53,113 --> 03:40:54,414
really the tension we've heard

6857
03:40:54,414 --> 03:40:56,383
here this morning, right? We

6858
03:40:56,383 --> 03:40:57,784
want to make sure our kids are

6859
03:40:57,784 --> 03:40:59,319
prepared, but we also want to

6860
03:40:59,319 --> 03:41:01,200
make sure they're protected. It

6861
03:41:01,200 --> 03:41:02,356
is complicated. It is nuanced.

6862
03:41:02,356 --> 03:41:05,356
So I'm really excited we're

6863
03:41:05,358 --> 03:41:07,227
having this conversation. It is

6864
03:41:07,227 --> 03:41:08,962
really critical that we keep

6865
03:41:08,962 --> 03:41:10,230
this full spectrum of parents

6866
03:41:10,230 --> 03:41:11,230
in mind as we're making

6867
03:41:11,230 --> 03:41:12,566
decisions, and often those

6868
03:41:12,566 --> 03:41:14,368
things can live within the same

6869
03:41:14,368 --> 03:41:17,604
person too. It's not one or the

6870
03:41:17,604 --> 03:41:19,390
other. But I can say pretty

6871
03:41:19,390 --> 03:41:21,439
confidently that everyone I've

6872
03:41:21,575 --> 03:41:23,610
spoken to wants us to get this

6873
03:41:23,610 --> 03:41:25,178
right. Parents want to make

6874
03:41:25,178 --> 03:41:26,647
sure their children are

6875
03:41:26,647 --> 03:41:28,810
developing key foundational

6876
03:41:28,810 --> 03:41:29,449
skills before we hand them a

6877
03:41:29,449 --> 03:41:31,618
tool that can do it right.

6878
03:41:31,618 --> 03:41:33,454
Things like critical thinking,

6879
03:41:33,454 --> 03:41:35,454
communication, compassion,

6880
03:41:35,989 --> 03:41:37,825
creativity, and problem solving.

6881
03:41:37,825 --> 03:41:39,893
Parents are asking really

6882
03:41:39,893 --> 03:41:41,762
important questions. How do we

6883
03:41:41,762 --> 03:41:43,496
ensure ai supports learning

6884
03:41:43,496 --> 03:41:45,299
rather than replaces it? How do

6885
03:41:45,299 --> 03:41:47,134
we protect student privacy and

6886
03:41:47,134 --> 03:41:50,134
data? How do we maintain

6887
03:41:50,337 --> 03:41:51,805
academic integrity? How do we

6888
03:41:51,805 --> 03:41:53,574
teach students not only how to

6889
03:41:53,574 --> 03:41:55,776
use these tools, but how to do

6890
03:41:55,776 --> 03:41:57,178
it responsibly, ethically,

6891
03:41:57,178 --> 03:41:59,914
safely, when they shouldn't use

6892
03:41:59,914 --> 03:42:01,515
them? And we've talked about it

6893
03:42:01,515 --> 03:42:02,950
here, but parents are really

6894
03:42:02,950 --> 03:42:03,951
worried about replacing a

6895
03:42:03,951 --> 03:42:05,519
teacher, right? Teachers are

6896
03:42:05,519 --> 03:42:06,953
the heart and soul of our

6897
03:42:06,953 --> 03:42:08,189
classrooms. And so we just need

6898
03:42:08,189 --> 03:42:09,957
to make sure and I'm so happy

6899
03:42:09,957 --> 03:42:11,625
what I've already heard, but

6900
03:42:11,625 --> 03:42:12,659
that we're constantly having

6901
03:42:12,659 --> 03:42:14,528
that at the forefront front.

6902
03:42:14,528 --> 03:42:16,296
This is supposed to enrich the

6903
03:42:16,296 --> 03:42:18,131
learning, not replace great

6904
03:42:18,131 --> 03:42:20,200
instruction from teachers. The

6905
03:42:20,200 --> 03:42:21,268
last bit, and I might go a tiny

6906
03:42:21,268 --> 03:42:22,769
bit over, but parents are

6907
03:42:22,769 --> 03:42:24,171
hungry for information. They

6908
03:42:24,171 --> 03:42:26,600
want to be informed. They want

6909
03:42:26,600 --> 03:42:27,375
to be partners. Some are

6910
03:42:27,375 --> 03:42:29,610
starting from I don't know

6911
03:42:29,610 --> 03:42:31,746
anything about ai. Some have

6912
03:42:31,746 --> 03:42:33,214
PhDs and are the ai symposium.

6913
03:42:33,214 --> 03:42:35,350
They want to know where they

6914
03:42:35,350 --> 03:42:36,884
can find the implementation

6915
03:42:36,884 --> 03:42:39,284
timelines, the policies, and

6916
03:42:39,687 --> 03:42:41,880
that needs to be ongoing. So I

6917
03:42:41,880 --> 03:42:42,222
think we can do this right. I

6918
03:42:42,222 --> 03:42:44,910
think we're doing the right

6919
03:42:44,910 --> 03:42:45,426
things. And we I think we can

6920
03:42:45,426 --> 03:42:47,280
also stay true to the values

6921
03:42:47,280 --> 03:42:48,429
we've expressed here. And so

6922
03:42:48,429 --> 03:42:49,596
I'm excited to see what this

6923
03:42:49,596 --> 03:42:52,596
can look like going forward.

6924
03:42:52,699 --> 03:42:54,699
Thank you.

6925
03:42:55,136 --> 03:42:57,372
>> Thank you. We now have a

6926
03:42:57,372 --> 03:42:58,773
video that we want to introduce.

6927
03:42:58,773 --> 03:43:00,574
On the last day of school, we

6928
03:43:00,574 --> 03:43:01,642
asked a couple students at

6929
03:43:01,642 --> 03:43:03,111
South Plantation High. What

6930
03:43:03,111 --> 03:43:04,177
advice would you give the

6931
03:43:04,177 --> 03:43:05,279
school district about

6932
03:43:05,279 --> 03:43:07,470
implementing ai in the

6933
03:43:07,470 --> 03:43:09,447
classroooooror with students? Can

6934
03:43:23,397 --> 03:43:25,397
rollhat?

6935
03:43:29,804 --> 03:43:34,400
>> So I would say ai is the

6936
03:43:34,420 --> 03:43:34,842
hope for the classroom, not the

6937
03:43:34,842 --> 03:43:36,644
classroom.

6938
03:43:36,644 --> 03:43:37,846
>> It might be useful for

6939
03:43:37,846 --> 03:43:39,460
teachers in a way where it

6940
03:43:39,460 --> 03:43:40,215
could help them. It could help

6941
03:43:40,215 --> 03:43:41,950
train them like I've already

6942
03:43:41,950 --> 03:43:43,840
seen, kind of like Zoom calls

6943
03:43:43,840 --> 03:43:44,552
where like the teachers will

6944
03:43:44,552 --> 03:43:44,919
learn with like fake ai

6945
03:43:44,919 --> 03:43:46,488
students.

6946
03:43:46,488 --> 03:43:48,857
>> Student wise, giving them

6947
03:43:48,857 --> 03:43:51,580
the power to use ai. To be

6948
03:43:51,580 --> 03:43:53,495
honest, I think they should,

6949
03:43:53,495 --> 03:43:54,596
but like not too much power, if

6950
03:43:54,596 --> 03:43:56,330
you get what I'm saying.

6951
03:43:56,330 --> 03:43:57,465
>> My main piece of advice

6952
03:43:57,465 --> 03:43:58,499
would be to go through the

6953
03:43:58,499 --> 03:43:59,467
models and discover the

6954
03:43:59,467 --> 03:44:00,735
individual strengths and

6955
03:44:00,735 --> 03:44:02,503
weaknesses of each one, to

6956
03:44:02,503 --> 03:44:03,605
figure out the best, you know,

6957
03:44:03,605 --> 03:44:04,406
application process.

6958
03:44:04,406 --> 03:44:05,774
>> They've already kind of

6959
03:44:05,774 --> 03:44:07,175
started implementing it.

6960
03:44:07,175 --> 03:44:09,377
Teachers are like checking, I

6961
03:44:09,377 --> 03:44:11,790
think canvas has an ai like

6962
03:44:11,790 --> 03:44:12,147
checker. I think they blocked

6963
03:44:12,147 --> 03:44:13,281
them on school computers. I

6964
03:44:13,281 --> 03:44:14,810
think they're doing pretty good

6965
03:44:14,810 --> 03:44:15,517
on that.

6966
03:44:15,517 --> 03:44:17,152
>> I was just really tell the

6967
03:44:17,152 --> 03:44:18,186
district just to start with the

6968
03:44:18,186 --> 03:44:19,187
teachers, like give them

6969
03:44:19,187 --> 03:44:20,288
workshops probably and stuff

6970
03:44:20,288 --> 03:44:22,900
like that to like how to

6971
03:44:22,900 --> 03:44:23,910
implement it in their classroom

6972
03:44:23,910 --> 03:44:25,227
in a better way.

6973
03:44:25,227 --> 03:44:26,495
>> I feel like if you depend on

6974
03:44:26,495 --> 03:44:28,229
ai too much and you're letting

6975
03:44:28,229 --> 03:44:29,431
it and you're just letting it

6976
03:44:29,431 --> 03:44:31,233
take control of your life and

6977
03:44:31,233 --> 03:44:32,434
do whatever that you want, like

6978
03:44:32,434 --> 03:44:34,236
you're making it do whatever it

6979
03:44:34,236 --> 03:44:35,404
wants, it might not always get

6980
03:44:35,404 --> 03:44:37,239
it right. And now if you're

6981
03:44:37,239 --> 03:44:38,406
thinking that it is right and

6982
03:44:38,406 --> 03:44:39,408
it really isn't, it's spreading

6983
03:44:39,408 --> 03:44:40,475
false information and it's not

6984
03:44:40,475 --> 03:44:41,243
really good for the human

6985
03:44:41,243 --> 03:44:42,443
person.

6986
03:44:42,443 --> 03:44:44,346
>> Try to embrace ai and say,

6987
03:44:44,346 --> 03:44:46,248
hey, you know what? We're also

6988
03:44:46,248 --> 03:44:46,815
going to use ai to have these

6989
03:44:46,815 --> 03:44:48,450
assignments tailored towards

6990
03:44:48,450 --> 03:44:50,319
you to help you. How can I help

6991
03:44:50,319 --> 03:44:50,585
you use ai? The best way

6992
03:44:50,585 --> 03:44:52,585
possible?

6993
03:44:55,490 --> 03:44:57,490
[Music]

6994
03:44:58,694 --> 03:45:01,940
>> Presentation, please. So now

6995
03:45:01,263 --> 03:45:03,365
we're going to segue into part

6996
03:45:03,365 --> 03:45:05,567
two, which begins an important

6997
03:45:05,567 --> 03:45:06,935
premise. Innovation without

6998
03:45:06,935 --> 03:45:08,403
governance creates risks.

6999
03:45:08,403 --> 03:45:10,403
Governance without innovation

7000
03:45:11,306 --> 03:45:12,374
creates irrelevance. And so our

7001
03:45:12,374 --> 03:45:14,774
responsibility is that the

7002
03:45:15,244 --> 03:45:18,800
district has to succeed with ai.

7003
03:45:18,800 --> 03:45:19,882
And in that we will, as a

7004
03:45:19,882 --> 03:45:21,490
district be stronger through

7005
03:45:21,490 --> 03:45:22,817
governance. Our commitment is

7006
03:45:22,817 --> 03:45:23,919
to be responsible through

7007
03:45:23,919 --> 03:45:26,550
innovation and not rapid

7008
03:45:26,550 --> 03:45:28,550
innovation, but responsible

7009
03:45:28,156 --> 03:45:30,250
innovation. And so this work

7010
03:45:30,250 --> 03:45:31,827
was not developed in isolation.

7011
03:45:31,827 --> 03:45:33,262
We spent a ton of time, as you

7012
03:45:33,262 --> 03:45:35,398
heard from many committee

7013
03:45:35,398 --> 03:45:36,532
members who spoke, that they

7014
03:45:36,532 --> 03:45:39,000
were engaged in some of the

7015
03:45:39,000 --> 03:45:40,436
work we did around policy and

7016
03:45:40,436 --> 03:45:42,271
governance and guardrails. We

7017
03:45:42,271 --> 03:45:45,841
collected a lot of feedback at

7018
03:45:45,841 --> 03:45:46,942
the JUNE 5th ai Symposium from

7019
03:45:46,942 --> 03:45:47,776
students, teachers,

7020
03:45:47,776 --> 03:45:49,776
administrators, parents. We

7021
03:45:49,778 --> 03:45:50,913
will continue to get that

7022
03:45:50,913 --> 03:45:52,681
feedback as well. We've heard

7023
03:45:52,681 --> 03:45:53,916
from business leaders,

7024
03:45:53,916 --> 03:45:55,916
community partners, research

7025
03:45:56,284 --> 03:45:58,120
based institutions, all

7026
03:45:58,120 --> 03:45:59,255
contributed feedback. And that

7027
03:45:59,255 --> 03:46:01,323
feedback directly shaped both

7028
03:46:01,323 --> 03:46:03,125
the policy and implementation

7029
03:46:03,125 --> 03:46:04,894
approach. This work will

7030
03:46:04,894 --> 03:46:06,696
continue as bcc has joined

7031
03:46:06,696 --> 03:46:08,865
several districts to lead the

7032
03:46:08,865 --> 03:46:10,666
way in policy and governance.

7033
03:46:10,666 --> 03:46:12,534
In two parts nationally through

7034
03:46:12,534 --> 03:46:13,903
Impact Florida, we've also

7035
03:46:13,903 --> 03:46:16,720
joined the Helios Foundation.

7036
03:46:16,720 --> 03:46:18,472
We're also co-sponsored in

7037
03:46:18,608 --> 03:46:19,709
several grants that help to

7038
03:46:19,709 --> 03:46:21,477
champion principles around

7039
03:46:21,477 --> 03:46:23,877
parent and teacher engagement

7040
03:46:24,120 --> 03:46:25,414
and ai literacy and policy

7041
03:46:25,414 --> 03:46:26,516
implementation, and

7042
03:46:26,516 --> 03:46:28,317
safeguarding how we roll out

7043
03:46:28,317 --> 03:46:30,317
our student deployment

7044
03:46:31,187 --> 03:46:33,356
initiative. I want to hand it

7045
03:46:33,356 --> 03:46:35,524
off to governance around

7046
03:46:35,524 --> 03:46:37,326
administration.

7047
03:46:37,326 --> 03:46:38,694
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7048
03:46:38,694 --> 03:46:39,695
Jeanette Dean, and I serve as

7049
03:46:39,695 --> 03:46:40,929
an assistant principal at

7050
03:46:40,929 --> 03:46:42,732
Miramar High School and as a

7051
03:46:42,732 --> 03:46:45,340
member of Broward's ai liaison

7052
03:46:45,340 --> 03:46:46,735
team. As school leaders,

7053
03:46:46,735 --> 03:46:48,170
there's one resource we never

7054
03:46:48,170 --> 03:46:50,273
seem to have enough of, and

7055
03:46:50,273 --> 03:46:52,750
that's time. Every day, we're

7056
03:46:52,750 --> 03:46:53,142
supporting students, coaching

7057
03:46:53,142 --> 03:46:54,978
teachers, responding to

7058
03:46:54,978 --> 03:46:56,712
families, reviewing data,

7059
03:46:56,712 --> 03:46:58,614
solving problems, attending

7060
03:46:58,614 --> 03:47:00,383
meetings, and ensuring we're

7061
03:47:00,383 --> 03:47:02,184
present in classrooms where the

7062
03:47:02,184 --> 03:47:03,919
real work of learning happens.

7063
03:47:03,919 --> 03:47:05,355
So when people ask me about

7064
03:47:05,355 --> 03:47:07,189
artificial intelligence, my

7065
03:47:07,189 --> 03:47:09,359
answer's actually pretty simple.

7066
03:47:09,359 --> 03:47:12,228
The most valuable thing ai has

7067
03:47:12,228 --> 03:47:14,330
given me isn't technology. It's

7068
03:47:14,330 --> 03:47:15,532
time. In my work as an

7069
03:47:15,532 --> 03:47:17,932
assistant principal, I've used

7070
03:47:18,401 --> 03:47:20,136
ai to identify trends across

7071
03:47:20,136 --> 03:47:21,236
classroom walkthroughs, analyze

7072
03:47:21,236 --> 03:47:23,390
professional learning needs,

7073
03:47:23,390 --> 03:47:24,807
and synthesize information from

7074
03:47:24,807 --> 03:47:27,100
policies, procedures, and other

7075
03:47:27,100 --> 03:47:28,844
sources to support informed

7076
03:47:28,844 --> 03:47:30,947
decision making. Now, I want to

7077
03:47:30,947 --> 03:47:33,116
be very clear about something.

7078
03:47:33,116 --> 03:47:35,986
Ai doesn't make those decisions.

7079
03:47:35,986 --> 03:47:37,453
I do. The technology helps me

7080
03:47:37,453 --> 03:47:39,256
process information more

7081
03:47:39,256 --> 03:47:41,256
efficiently, but professional

7082
03:47:41,825 --> 03:47:43,825
judgment, experience, and

7083
03:47:44,227 --> 03:47:45,495
context still matter most. And

7084
03:47:45,495 --> 03:47:47,895
honestly, that's what excites

7085
03:47:48,565 --> 03:47:50,800
me most about this work. Not

7086
03:47:50,800 --> 03:47:51,934
because it makes leadership any

7087
03:47:51,934 --> 03:47:53,637
easier, but because it creates

7088
03:47:53,637 --> 03:47:55,710
more space for the parts of

7089
03:47:55,710 --> 03:47:56,873
leadership that matter the most.

7090
03:47:56,873 --> 03:47:58,674
More conversations with

7091
03:47:58,674 --> 03:48:00,109
teachers, more support for

7092
03:48:00,109 --> 03:48:01,911
students. More engagement with

7093
03:48:01,911 --> 03:48:03,346
families. More time spent in

7094
03:48:03,346 --> 03:48:05,515
classrooms instead of behind a

7095
03:48:05,515 --> 03:48:07,150
desk. In my work with educators,

7096
03:48:07,150 --> 03:48:09,119
school leaders in the community,

7097
03:48:09,119 --> 03:48:12,155
I always come back to the same

7098
03:48:12,155 --> 03:48:14,155
idea. Technology should

7099
03:48:14,624 --> 03:48:16,526
strengthen human capacity, not

7100
03:48:16,526 --> 03:48:18,195
replace human resume. What I've

7101
03:48:18,195 --> 03:48:19,696
seen across Broward County is a

7102
03:48:19,696 --> 03:48:21,980
thoughtful approach to that

7103
03:48:21,980 --> 03:48:22,199
balance. We're building

7104
03:48:22,199 --> 03:48:23,699
guardrails and ensuring that

7105
03:48:23,699 --> 03:48:25,435
human judgment remains at the

7106
03:48:25,435 --> 03:48:26,636
center of every important

7107
03:48:26,636 --> 03:48:28,705
decision. Because despite all

7108
03:48:28,705 --> 03:48:30,474
of the conversations happening

7109
03:48:30,474 --> 03:48:31,941
about artificial intelligence,

7110
03:48:31,941 --> 03:48:34,110
there are still some things the

7111
03:48:34,110 --> 03:48:35,846
ai cannot do. It can't build

7112
03:48:35,846 --> 03:48:37,347
trust with the student. It

7113
03:48:37,347 --> 03:48:39,849
can't understand the nuance of

7114
03:48:39,849 --> 03:48:41,685
family situations. It can't

7115
03:48:41,685 --> 03:48:43,530
inspire teachers. And it

7116
03:48:43,530 --> 03:48:45,689
definitely cannot survive a day

7117
03:48:45,689 --> 03:48:47,390
as an assistant principal. That

7118
03:48:47,390 --> 03:48:48,859
work still belongs to people.

7119
03:48:48,859 --> 03:48:50,260
As both a school leader and a

7120
03:48:50,260 --> 03:48:51,362
doctoral student studying

7121
03:48:51,362 --> 03:48:52,696
curriculum and instruction, I

7122
03:48:52,696 --> 03:48:54,331
believe our responsibility

7123
03:48:54,331 --> 03:48:56,466
isn't to shield students from

7124
03:48:56,466 --> 03:48:58,866
emerging technology, but to

7125
03:48:58,935 --> 03:49:00,703
prepare them to engage

7126
03:49:00,703 --> 03:49:02,272
thoughtfully, ethically and

7127
03:49:02,272 --> 03:49:03,740
responsibly. The future our

7128
03:49:03,740 --> 03:49:05,843
students will enter will

7129
03:49:05,843 --> 03:49:07,211
include artificial intelligence.

7130
03:49:07,211 --> 03:49:08,645
Our job is to ensure they enter

7131
03:49:08,645 --> 03:49:10,280
that future with wisdom,

7132
03:49:10,280 --> 03:49:12,282
critical thinking, and strong

7133
03:49:12,282 --> 03:49:14,840
human values. From where I sit

7134
03:49:14,840 --> 03:49:15,519
as a school leader, that's

7135
03:49:15,519 --> 03:49:18,220
exactly the balance Broward is

7136
03:49:18,220 --> 03:49:21,220
working to achieve. Thank you.

7137
03:49:22,726 --> 03:49:25,126
>> Thank you. Presentation. And

7138
03:49:25,662 --> 03:49:27,397
so what you've echoed from many

7139
03:49:27,397 --> 03:49:29,567
of our speakers is around

7140
03:49:29,567 --> 03:49:31,702
purposeful, limited use quality

7141
03:49:31,702 --> 03:49:32,769
over quantity. And then most

7142
03:49:32,769 --> 03:49:34,769
importantly, human centered

7143
03:49:34,905 --> 03:49:37,905
learning. And that we recognize

7144
03:49:37,941 --> 03:49:40,343
that through this discourse and

7145
03:49:40,343 --> 03:49:42,743
the follow up conversations

7146
03:49:43,180 --> 03:49:44,715
that we have to collect

7147
03:49:44,715 --> 03:49:45,782
collectively, think about

7148
03:49:45,782 --> 03:49:47,551
everyone's perspectives and

7149
03:49:47,551 --> 03:49:48,953
where they are, and then come

7150
03:49:48,953 --> 03:49:51,122
to a balanced approach in terms

7151
03:49:51,122 --> 03:49:52,523
of how we look at ai

7152
03:49:52,523 --> 03:49:55,920
implemented into broad part by

7153
03:49:55,920 --> 03:49:56,560
ai. And so what ai should

7154
03:49:56,560 --> 03:49:58,329
support, and you've heard this

7155
03:49:58,329 --> 03:50:00,864
is through planning and lesson

7156
03:50:00,864 --> 03:50:02,466
development, timely feedback,

7157
03:50:02,466 --> 03:50:04,466
assessing multilingual supports,

7158
03:50:04,836 --> 03:50:06,203
data analysis and teacher

7159
03:50:06,203 --> 03:50:07,705
administration. But what it

7160
03:50:07,705 --> 03:50:09,173
should also recognize is that

7161
03:50:09,173 --> 03:50:11,573
some learning experiences are

7162
03:50:12,900 --> 03:50:13,811
best done without ai in screens.

7163
03:50:13,811 --> 03:50:15,613
We've heard that repeatedly

7164
03:50:15,613 --> 03:50:17,781
throughout this time. Students

7165
03:50:17,781 --> 03:50:19,584
must benefit from discussions,

7166
03:50:19,584 --> 03:50:21,584
collaborations through reading,

7167
03:50:22,853 --> 03:50:24,956
writing, and through hands on

7168
03:50:24,956 --> 03:50:27,524
learning and technology has to

7169
03:50:27,524 --> 03:50:29,661
help shape the way in which

7170
03:50:29,661 --> 03:50:31,428
classrooms look differently

7171
03:50:31,428 --> 03:50:33,231
today. But there has to be this

7172
03:50:33,231 --> 03:50:36,500
balance. And so now I'll turn

7173
03:50:36,500 --> 03:50:38,803
it over to Manny, executive

7174
03:50:38,803 --> 03:50:40,137
director, to take the next part

7175
03:50:40,137 --> 03:50:41,239
of this.

7176
03:50:41,239 --> 03:50:42,674
>> Thank you, Doctor Cohen.

7177
03:50:42,674 --> 03:50:44,409
Manny Castaneda, executive

7178
03:50:44,409 --> 03:50:46,544
Director of analytics and

7179
03:50:46,544 --> 03:50:49,414
intelligence. And I'd like to

7180
03:50:49,414 --> 03:50:52,160
talk a little bit about what

7181
03:50:52,160 --> 03:50:53,517
helped guide the ai policy that

7182
03:50:53,517 --> 03:50:55,917
we're currently drafting, going

7183
03:50:55,953 --> 03:50:58,455
to present to the board in the

7184
03:50:58,455 --> 03:50:59,491
near future. And there are five

7185
03:50:59,491 --> 03:51:01,580
overlying themes, and these

7186
03:51:01,580 --> 03:51:03,495
didn't occur, as Doctor Cohen

7187
03:51:03,495 --> 03:51:05,263
said in a vacuum. They were

7188
03:51:05,263 --> 03:51:07,932
guided by a lot of work, by a

7189
03:51:07,932 --> 03:51:09,634
lot of very qualified people.

7190
03:51:09,634 --> 03:51:12,137
And I want to give kudos where

7191
03:51:12,137 --> 03:51:14,372
kudos are due. The ai task

7192
03:51:14,372 --> 03:51:16,772
force, which was established

7193
03:51:16,807 --> 03:51:19,344
almost two years ago and

7194
03:51:19,344 --> 03:51:20,812
includes teachers and includes

7195
03:51:20,812 --> 03:51:21,680
district staff and

7196
03:51:21,680 --> 03:51:23,680
administrators, school staff

7197
03:51:23,815 --> 03:51:24,716
and administrators, ai liaisons

7198
03:51:24,716 --> 03:51:27,116
and most importantly, it

7199
03:51:28,530 --> 03:51:30,453
includes students. And this

7200
03:51:31,623 --> 03:51:33,758
group really had a really came

7201
03:51:33,758 --> 03:51:35,493
up with all of these ideas that

7202
03:51:35,493 --> 03:51:36,761
helped inform it. And as you're

7203
03:51:36,761 --> 03:51:37,929
going to learn in other slides,

7204
03:51:37,929 --> 03:51:39,497
there's also many other groups

7205
03:51:39,497 --> 03:51:42,400
that are contributing to the

7206
03:51:42,400 --> 03:51:44,569
policy outside of that. So the

7207
03:51:44,569 --> 03:51:47,720
five key themes that appear in

7208
03:51:47,720 --> 03:51:49,240
the policy are the responsible

7209
03:51:49,240 --> 03:51:51,810
and ethical use of ai across

7210
03:51:51,810 --> 03:51:53,878
both instruction and operations,

7211
03:51:53,878 --> 03:51:56,714
and having a unified vision for

7212
03:51:56,714 --> 03:51:59,284
ai across the district. The

7213
03:51:59,284 --> 03:52:00,686
fact that there must be human

7214
03:52:00,686 --> 03:52:02,686
oversight and accountability

7215
03:52:03,655 --> 03:52:06,525
for every ai supported decision.

7216
03:52:06,525 --> 03:52:08,727
Ai doesn't make decisions we do.

7217
03:52:08,727 --> 03:52:10,462
When we went with Microsoft

7218
03:52:10,462 --> 03:52:11,930
Copilot, the name actually

7219
03:52:11,930 --> 03:52:14,930
aligns. You have copilot, but

7220
03:52:15,467 --> 03:52:18,360
you got to have a pilot. Third

7221
03:52:18,360 --> 03:52:20,105
was student safety, student

7222
03:52:20,105 --> 03:52:21,606
safety, data privacy are

7223
03:52:21,606 --> 03:52:23,842
paramount, not just student

7224
03:52:23,842 --> 03:52:26,278
data, but staff data as well.

7225
03:52:26,278 --> 03:52:27,713
And I am happy to say this

7226
03:52:27,713 --> 03:52:29,948
district has some of the

7227
03:52:29,948 --> 03:52:31,684
strongest data protections that

7228
03:52:31,684 --> 03:52:33,152
exist. I came from another

7229
03:52:33,152 --> 03:52:35,286
district, so I've seen or I

7230
03:52:35,286 --> 03:52:37,855
have a comparison to make. But

7231
03:52:37,855 --> 03:52:39,591
our collaboration here between

7232
03:52:39,591 --> 03:52:41,226
isd Risk management and the

7233
03:52:41,226 --> 03:52:43,626
General Council have resulted

7234
03:52:44,262 --> 03:52:45,731
in very, very stringent data

7235
03:52:45,731 --> 03:52:47,166
protections that are in all of

7236
03:52:47,166 --> 03:52:49,566
our contracts, especially the

7237
03:52:49,702 --> 03:52:52,904
ones that are with our ai

7238
03:52:52,904 --> 03:52:54,373
partners, and then also

7239
03:52:54,373 --> 03:52:55,139
instructional integrity that

7240
03:52:55,139 --> 03:52:57,242
protects the quality of

7241
03:52:57,242 --> 03:52:59,445
teaching and learning. And this

7242
03:52:59,445 --> 03:53:00,612
also leads into the final of

7243
03:53:00,612 --> 03:53:02,615
balance, because there's been a

7244
03:53:02,615 --> 03:53:05,551
lot of talk about focusing too

7245
03:53:05,551 --> 03:53:07,185
heavily on technology. And I

7246
03:53:07,185 --> 03:53:09,154
think there's also been a lot

7247
03:53:09,154 --> 03:53:11,990
of talk about achieving that

7248
03:53:11,990 --> 03:53:13,792
balance between screen time and

7249
03:53:13,792 --> 03:53:15,193
between time when you get to

7250
03:53:15,193 --> 03:53:18,630
engage in other activities that

7251
03:53:18,630 --> 03:53:20,266
are just as important. So the

7252
03:53:20,266 --> 03:53:22,680
policy needs to reflect that ai

7253
03:53:22,680 --> 03:53:24,603
is not something you simply

7254
03:53:24,603 --> 03:53:26,380
turn kids over to as a

7255
03:53:26,380 --> 03:53:28,438
substitute for instruction, but

7256
03:53:29,642 --> 03:53:31,677
something that complements it.

7257
03:53:31,677 --> 03:53:35,130
So here we go to a slide where

7258
03:53:35,130 --> 03:53:36,815
we talk about what our fears

7259
03:53:36,815 --> 03:53:39,719
that have come up time and time

7260
03:53:39,719 --> 03:53:41,453
again. The fear that is within

7261
03:53:41,453 --> 03:53:42,588
all of us with something new,

7262
03:53:42,588 --> 03:53:44,890
especially ai, is that it's

7263
03:53:44,890 --> 03:53:45,524
going to take over jobs. It's

7264
03:53:45,524 --> 03:53:48,360
going to take over human

7265
03:53:48,360 --> 03:53:51,230
thinking. And the truth is that

7266
03:53:51,230 --> 03:53:52,698
if ai is taught responsibly and

7267
03:53:52,698 --> 03:53:55,434
ethically, that is not what

7268
03:53:55,434 --> 03:53:56,469
it's here to do. And I had all

7269
03:53:56,469 --> 03:53:58,170
these comments prepared about

7270
03:53:58,170 --> 03:54:00,639
the feedback loop between human

7271
03:54:00,639 --> 03:54:01,707
and ai. But Mikhail here, he

7272
03:54:01,707 --> 03:54:03,308
stole all my thunder because he

7273
03:54:03,308 --> 03:54:05,578
said it much better than I

7274
03:54:05,578 --> 03:54:07,130
would have. But it's that

7275
03:54:07,130 --> 03:54:08,847
connection between the human,

7276
03:54:08,847 --> 03:54:12,151
between the pilot and the ai

7277
03:54:12,151 --> 03:54:14,387
and the feedback, and then the

7278
03:54:14,387 --> 03:54:16,388
reconnection. That helps. A lot

7279
03:54:16,388 --> 03:54:18,991
of it really has to do with

7280
03:54:18,991 --> 03:54:21,930
what kind of tasks is ai really

7281
03:54:21,930 --> 03:54:22,662
good at. And we can talk about

7282
03:54:22,662 --> 03:54:23,462
instructional use cases. And

7283
03:54:23,462 --> 03:54:25,197
there were many that were

7284
03:54:25,197 --> 03:54:26,833
brought up in the recent

7285
03:54:26,833 --> 03:54:28,000
symposium that are very

7286
03:54:28,000 --> 03:54:29,402
valuable. And the one that

7287
03:54:29,402 --> 03:54:30,436
really brought up of

7288
03:54:30,436 --> 03:54:32,238
differentiated instruction with

7289
03:54:32,238 --> 03:54:34,474
mathematics. That's a great one.

7290
03:54:34,474 --> 03:54:36,409
But I'd also like to focus on a

7291
03:54:36,409 --> 03:54:38,745
lot of the things that I think

7292
03:54:38,745 --> 03:54:39,812
MISS Dean mentioned. And quite

7293
03:54:39,812 --> 03:54:41,581
frankly, when I became a

7294
03:54:41,581 --> 03:54:43,416
teacher many years ago, I

7295
03:54:43,416 --> 03:54:45,510
taught for over a decade. I

7296
03:54:45,510 --> 03:54:47,787
didn't want to fill out forms.

7297
03:54:47,787 --> 03:54:50,990
I didn't want to read email. I

7298
03:54:50,990 --> 03:54:53,859
didn't want to digest 100 page

7299
03:54:53,859 --> 03:54:56,796
manuals. I wanted to teach. And

7300
03:54:56,796 --> 03:54:57,864
what ai has allowed us to do,

7301
03:54:57,864 --> 03:54:59,699
and what this district is

7302
03:54:59,699 --> 03:55:02,135
heavily invested in, is in

7303
03:55:02,135 --> 03:55:04,971
giving time back to the

7304
03:55:04,971 --> 03:55:06,106
teachers, giving time back to

7305
03:55:06,106 --> 03:55:08,274
administrators to be able to

7306
03:55:08,274 --> 03:55:09,709
focus on the higher order

7307
03:55:09,709 --> 03:55:11,645
thinking and the higher order

7308
03:55:11,645 --> 03:55:12,978
decisions, so that a lot of the

7309
03:55:12,978 --> 03:55:15,448
operational use cases that MISS

7310
03:55:15,448 --> 03:55:17,284
Dean mentioned of doing data

7311
03:55:17,284 --> 03:55:19,684
analysis, of doing trend

7312
03:55:20,187 --> 03:55:21,921
analysis, of crafting

7313
03:55:21,921 --> 03:55:22,989
communications, and ensuring

7314
03:55:22,989 --> 03:55:24,490
that they're, they're

7315
03:55:24,490 --> 03:55:26,890
grammatically correct. And they,

7316
03:55:26,993 --> 03:55:29,195
they convey the proper message

7317
03:55:29,195 --> 03:55:30,596
of synthesizing information.

7318
03:55:30,596 --> 03:55:32,765
All of those are things that ai

7319
03:55:32,765 --> 03:55:34,634
can help with and give us

7320
03:55:34,634 --> 03:55:36,737
actual time back to spend with

7321
03:55:36,737 --> 03:55:39,137
our students and making

7322
03:55:40,240 --> 03:55:42,475
decisions. Now, a little bit

7323
03:55:42,475 --> 03:55:44,310
about the process and what we

7324
03:55:44,310 --> 03:55:46,790
call some of the four pillars

7325
03:55:46,790 --> 03:55:47,848
that I know Doctor Cohen

7326
03:55:47,848 --> 03:55:50,117
mentioned earlier, that have

7327
03:55:50,117 --> 03:55:53,117
gone into the policy itself.

7328
03:55:53,319 --> 03:55:56,489
And again, they center on the

7329
03:55:56,489 --> 03:55:57,591
human being, the decision maker,

7330
03:55:57,591 --> 03:55:59,459
those those stickers where you

7331
03:55:59,459 --> 03:56:02,262
say, I'm the human in the loop,

7332
03:56:02,262 --> 03:56:04,970
those are intentional. Humans

7333
03:56:04,970 --> 03:56:06,266
are always and always should be

7334
03:56:06,266 --> 03:56:08,100
in control of the process. The

7335
03:56:08,100 --> 03:56:11,100
focus on student benefit and

7336
03:56:11,271 --> 03:56:12,673
instructional integrity, safety,

7337
03:56:12,673 --> 03:56:14,875
privacy, and cyber security.

7338
03:56:14,875 --> 03:56:16,976
Again, like I mentioned earlier,

7339
03:56:16,976 --> 03:56:19,279
and then equity, accessibility

7340
03:56:19,279 --> 03:56:20,747
and bias mitigation, one of the

7341
03:56:20,747 --> 03:56:22,416
decisions this district made,

7342
03:56:22,416 --> 03:56:23,517
and I think it should be

7343
03:56:23,517 --> 03:56:24,585
highlighted many other

7344
03:56:24,585 --> 03:56:25,719
districts, and we're partnering

7345
03:56:25,719 --> 03:56:28,719
with many other districts in

7346
03:56:28,922 --> 03:56:30,424
the state in their ai journey.

7347
03:56:30,424 --> 03:56:33,424
They've offered ai tools for

7348
03:56:34,661 --> 03:56:37,163
staff to a few. You have some

7349
03:56:37,163 --> 03:56:39,163
administrators, some principals,

7350
03:56:40,434 --> 03:56:41,835
etc. We have gone all in. If

7351
03:56:41,835 --> 03:56:43,670
we're going to teach students

7352
03:56:43,670 --> 03:56:45,840
how to engage with ai, well,

7353
03:56:45,840 --> 03:56:47,241
our staff should know how to

7354
03:56:47,241 --> 03:56:49,809
engage with ai and how to use

7355
03:56:49,809 --> 03:56:50,677
it. Our instructional and

7356
03:56:50,677 --> 03:56:52,677
non-instructional staff. That's

7357
03:56:52,679 --> 03:56:56,283
why we are the leaders in the

7358
03:56:56,283 --> 03:56:59,186
world. With the deployment of

7359
03:56:59,186 --> 03:57:01,586
20,000 premium licenses and the

7360
03:57:02,220 --> 03:57:04,158
Microsoft Copilot platform that

7361
03:57:04,158 --> 03:57:07,195
have been given to almost all

7362
03:57:07,195 --> 03:57:09,620
staff in the district. So that

7363
03:57:09,620 --> 03:57:11,731
is an important way of ensuring

7364
03:57:11,731 --> 03:57:13,200
that everybody has access and

7365
03:57:13,200 --> 03:57:15,200
equitable access, and that as

7366
03:57:15,200 --> 03:57:18,200
we work with students, we're

7367
03:57:18,939 --> 03:57:21,939
able to communicate and double

7368
03:57:22,510 --> 03:57:24,679
down on that. Now, we didn't

7369
03:57:24,679 --> 03:57:26,460
just roll out all these

7370
03:57:26,460 --> 03:57:27,981
licenses and let people to

7371
03:57:27,981 --> 03:57:30,840
their own devices. There's

7372
03:57:30,840 --> 03:57:31,885
significant support that is

7373
03:57:31,885 --> 03:57:33,721
being provided or has been

7374
03:57:33,721 --> 03:57:36,223
provided. I as I mentioned

7375
03:57:36,223 --> 03:57:37,291
earlier, the ai task force was

7376
03:57:37,291 --> 03:57:38,292
critical, and it was

7377
03:57:38,292 --> 03:57:39,427
spearheaded through the Office

7378
03:57:39,427 --> 03:57:40,594
of Innovative Learning through

7379
03:57:40,594 --> 03:57:42,697
Doctor Cohen's office and

7380
03:57:42,697 --> 03:57:45,320
Doctor Sherry Wilson leading

7381
03:57:45,320 --> 03:57:47,467
that task force. They developed

7382
03:57:47,467 --> 03:57:48,769
the bk Ethical Implementation

7383
03:57:48,769 --> 03:57:51,769
Guide, which is really the

7384
03:57:52,807 --> 03:57:54,942
guide that helped helped craft

7385
03:57:54,942 --> 03:57:57,942
the draft policy that that

7386
03:57:58,179 --> 03:57:59,680
we're going to introduce. We

7387
03:57:59,680 --> 03:58:01,782
have and are and have developed

7388
03:58:01,782 --> 03:58:04,352
and are currently developing ai

7389
03:58:04,352 --> 03:58:06,752
governance and review processes.

7390
03:58:06,820 --> 03:58:08,322
We have taken great effort in

7391
03:58:08,322 --> 03:58:10,792
ensuring that any tool that we

7392
03:58:10,792 --> 03:58:13,695
expose our students to are

7393
03:58:13,695 --> 03:58:16,197
being tested at a higher bar

7394
03:58:16,197 --> 03:58:18,332
than we believe many others

7395
03:58:18,332 --> 03:58:20,902
have. We are looking for real

7396
03:58:20,902 --> 03:58:22,670
time moderation and real time

7397
03:58:22,670 --> 03:58:24,539
threat detection, which is

7398
03:58:24,539 --> 03:58:25,806
something most tools don't

7399
03:58:25,806 --> 03:58:28,760
provide. And I'm going to be

7400
03:58:28,760 --> 03:58:29,811
honest with you. Currently,

7401
03:58:29,811 --> 03:58:31,312
copilot doesn't provide at

7402
03:58:31,312 --> 03:58:33,114
scale, which is why we haven't

7403
03:58:33,114 --> 03:58:35,514
deployed Microsoft Copilot to

7404
03:58:35,917 --> 03:58:37,452
all of our students. It doesn't

7405
03:58:37,452 --> 03:58:38,486
provide that level of

7406
03:58:38,486 --> 03:58:40,288
protection. However, other

7407
03:58:40,288 --> 03:58:42,189
tools that we've tested have

7408
03:58:42,189 --> 03:58:43,824
and will be deploying them next

7409
03:58:43,824 --> 03:58:46,294
year. So we're, we're, we're

7410
03:58:46,294 --> 03:58:48,694
ensuring that although staff

7411
03:58:48,797 --> 03:58:49,931
have are all in and have access,

7412
03:58:49,931 --> 03:58:51,366
but with our students, we're

7413
03:58:51,366 --> 03:58:52,767
being very careful how we

7414
03:58:52,767 --> 03:58:55,167
deploy because again, remember

7415
03:58:55,302 --> 03:58:57,104
the pillar student protection

7416
03:58:57,104 --> 03:58:59,273
always protect the student

7417
03:58:59,273 --> 03:59:00,708
first. We have a significant

7418
03:59:00,708 --> 03:59:02,142
investment in professional

7419
03:59:02,142 --> 03:59:03,411
learning in ai literacy. We

7420
03:59:03,411 --> 03:59:05,113
have a lot of work that's been

7421
03:59:05,113 --> 03:59:06,147
done on the instructional side

7422
03:59:06,147 --> 03:59:07,182
through the Office of

7423
03:59:07,182 --> 03:59:08,449
Innovative Learning. Then we

7424
03:59:08,449 --> 03:59:11,219
have a lot of work that's been

7425
03:59:11,219 --> 03:59:13,321
done on the isd side with

7426
03:59:13,321 --> 03:59:15,422
operational use cases through

7427
03:59:15,422 --> 03:59:16,891
through Doctor Darrell Diamond,

7428
03:59:16,891 --> 03:59:20,595
and all of these are being all

7429
03:59:20,595 --> 03:59:21,930
put together into a hub that's

7430
03:59:21,930 --> 03:59:23,231
being developed and is

7431
03:59:23,231 --> 03:59:25,167
currently in pilot stage, which

7432
03:59:25,167 --> 03:59:26,201
is going to contain all of the

7433
03:59:26,201 --> 03:59:29,201
resources so that all staff

7434
03:59:29,838 --> 03:59:31,706
have one one stop shop for

7435
03:59:31,706 --> 03:59:34,706
getting any information and any

7436
03:59:35,277 --> 03:59:36,711
resources on ai. And I wanted

7437
03:59:36,711 --> 03:59:37,813
to close because I'm going to

7438
03:59:37,813 --> 03:59:38,914
talk about continuous

7439
03:59:38,914 --> 03:59:40,148
monitoring in a second, but I

7440
03:59:40,148 --> 03:59:42,830
want to talk about community

7441
03:59:42,830 --> 03:59:43,919
and stakeholder engagement. And

7442
03:59:43,919 --> 03:59:45,870
this goes to a lot of the work

7443
03:59:45,870 --> 03:59:47,122
that we've done in reaching out

7444
03:59:47,122 --> 03:59:48,924
the policy itself. We've

7445
03:59:48,924 --> 03:59:51,159
reached out, obviously, the ai

7446
03:59:51,159 --> 03:59:52,226
task force helped craft it.

7447
03:59:52,226 --> 03:59:53,262
We've reached out to the

7448
03:59:53,262 --> 03:59:55,300
district advisory committee.

7449
03:59:55,300 --> 03:59:57,566
We've received input from the

7450
03:59:57,566 --> 03:59:59,566
Technology Advisory Committee.

7451
04:00:00,135 --> 04:00:01,970
We've sent it to btu to

7452
04:00:01,970 --> 04:00:03,970
Principal and administration

7453
04:00:04,373 --> 04:00:06,208
and assistant principal groups.

7454
04:00:06,208 --> 04:00:07,309
We've sent it out to our actual

7455
04:00:07,309 --> 04:00:08,677
cte students that are

7456
04:00:08,677 --> 04:00:10,945
participating in the ai

7457
04:00:10,945 --> 04:00:13,480
academies to get input on this

7458
04:00:13,480 --> 04:00:14,516
policy. And soon, when we

7459
04:00:14,516 --> 04:00:16,318
present it for rulemaking, then

7460
04:00:16,318 --> 04:00:18,153
we'll have the input of the

7461
04:00:18,153 --> 04:00:19,722
board directly on the policy

7462
04:00:19,722 --> 04:00:20,789
and how it can affect. But this

7463
04:00:20,789 --> 04:00:23,191
is something that we've taken

7464
04:00:23,191 --> 04:00:25,260
great, great pains to ensure we

7465
04:00:25,260 --> 04:00:26,762
get as much engagement as

7466
04:00:26,762 --> 04:00:27,963
possible. And we had the

7467
04:00:27,963 --> 04:00:30,310
privilege. I had the privilege

7468
04:00:30,310 --> 04:00:31,500
of participating in the

7469
04:00:31,500 --> 04:00:33,636
leadership Week this last week

7470
04:00:33,636 --> 04:00:35,438
and in the ai symposium, where

7471
04:00:35,438 --> 04:00:37,206
we got some wonderful feedback

7472
04:00:37,206 --> 04:00:40,206
and input from parents and

7473
04:00:40,443 --> 04:00:41,677
stakeholders in the community.

7474
04:00:41,677 --> 04:00:44,780
So let's talk a little about

7475
04:00:44,780 --> 04:00:48,317
our call to action. And I can't

7476
04:00:48,317 --> 04:00:50,953
emphasize enough that. And this

7477
04:00:50,953 --> 04:00:52,287
Doctor Cohen said, ai is here.

7478
04:00:52,287 --> 04:00:52,988
It's changing the way

7479
04:00:52,988 --> 04:00:54,824
organizations work. It's

7480
04:00:54,824 --> 04:00:57,824
changing the way education is

7481
04:00:58,426 --> 04:01:00,830
done. We can either choose to

7482
04:01:00,830 --> 04:01:02,732
lead and be proactive as to how

7483
04:01:02,732 --> 04:01:04,199
it's taught and to ensure that

7484
04:01:04,199 --> 04:01:06,369
it's taught so that students

7485
04:01:06,369 --> 04:01:08,871
can use it responsibly. Or we

7486
04:01:08,871 --> 04:01:10,600
can step back and then they,

7487
04:01:10,600 --> 04:01:11,740
like many other skills, they

7488
04:01:11,740 --> 04:01:14,977
can learn it on their own and

7489
04:01:14,977 --> 04:01:16,779
at their peril. So we've chosen

7490
04:01:16,779 --> 04:01:18,915
to be proactive. We've chosen

7491
04:01:18,915 --> 04:01:21,915
to protect students and staff

7492
04:01:22,952 --> 04:01:24,320
first. We've chosen to have

7493
04:01:24,320 --> 04:01:26,522
clear governance and to

7494
04:01:26,522 --> 04:01:29,392
establish procedures to, to, to

7495
04:01:29,392 --> 04:01:31,194
test and vet ai tools. We've

7496
04:01:31,194 --> 04:01:32,495
also chosen to support

7497
04:01:32,495 --> 04:01:34,495
innovation, but responsibly.

7498
04:01:34,763 --> 04:01:37,466
And here I want to give some a

7499
04:01:37,466 --> 04:01:39,836
shout out to, to our students

7500
04:01:39,836 --> 04:01:41,270
at Nova and the ai Academy

7501
04:01:41,270 --> 04:01:43,806
because they are developing a

7502
04:01:43,806 --> 04:01:45,208
chat bot. And I would ask our

7503
04:01:45,208 --> 04:01:46,376
student advisors that did the

7504
04:01:46,376 --> 04:01:48,110
research to la unified. Did

7505
04:01:48,110 --> 04:01:49,912
their students create that

7506
04:01:49,912 --> 04:01:52,810
chatbot or the one in

7507
04:01:52,810 --> 04:01:53,883
Albuquerque? Because when we

7508
04:01:53,883 --> 04:01:56,786
release ours, it's going to be

7509
04:01:56,786 --> 04:01:57,920
created by our students. But in

7510
04:01:57,920 --> 04:01:59,220
saying that, we're not just

7511
04:01:59,220 --> 04:02:00,323
having the students create the

7512
04:02:00,323 --> 04:02:02,892
chat bot and publishing it,

7513
04:02:02,892 --> 04:02:04,260
we're developing vetting

7514
04:02:04,260 --> 04:02:05,728
protocols around it to make

7515
04:02:05,728 --> 04:02:07,997
sure that what's been created

7516
04:02:07,997 --> 04:02:09,365
is safe, doesn't expose data.

7517
04:02:09,365 --> 04:02:10,933
We're running it through the

7518
04:02:10,933 --> 04:02:13,333
same development process that

7519
04:02:13,436 --> 04:02:15,839
we run our applications to.

7520
04:02:15,839 --> 04:02:18,775
When we develop applications in

7521
04:02:18,775 --> 04:02:19,743
isd. And that leads me to the

7522
04:02:19,743 --> 04:02:21,578
last part about preparing

7523
04:02:21,578 --> 04:02:24,800
students for the future. And

7524
04:02:24,800 --> 04:02:26,282
again, I had a whole lot of

7525
04:02:26,282 --> 04:02:28,418
discussion here about the false

7526
04:02:28,418 --> 04:02:30,620
dichotomy between it's not

7527
04:02:30,620 --> 04:02:32,620
technology versus traditional.

7528
04:02:32,923 --> 04:02:34,424
But then Lily stole my thunder

7529
04:02:34,424 --> 04:02:35,958
and said it much better than I

7530
04:02:35,958 --> 04:02:39,558
ever would. So I'm, I'm going

7531
04:02:40,329 --> 04:02:42,310
to skip much of that. But I do

7532
04:02:42,310 --> 04:02:43,330
want to mention that we talk

7533
04:02:43,330 --> 04:02:45,433
about preparing students for

7534
04:02:45,468 --> 04:02:48,605
the future. And, and, and there

7535
04:02:48,605 --> 04:02:50,740
they sit, these these two

7536
04:02:50,740 --> 04:02:53,900
students right here. That's the

7537
04:02:53,900 --> 04:02:54,711
future we should aspire to for

7538
04:02:54,711 --> 04:02:56,179
the rest of our students. These

7539
04:02:56,179 --> 04:02:58,150
students seem to me, and I hate

7540
04:02:58,150 --> 04:02:59,783
to call you out, but they seem

7541
04:02:59,783 --> 04:03:01,840
to be well adjusted, well

7542
04:03:01,840 --> 04:03:03,353
rounded. They seem to be good

7543
04:03:03,353 --> 04:03:04,788
critical thinkers. I'm going to

7544
04:03:04,788 --> 04:03:06,289
assume that they can write well.

7545
04:03:06,289 --> 04:03:08,910
I already know they can

7546
04:03:08,910 --> 04:03:09,425
communicate well, and I

7547
04:03:09,425 --> 04:03:11,295
certainly know they can use

7548
04:03:11,295 --> 04:03:13,695
technology well. And that's

7549
04:03:13,763 --> 04:03:16,366
what we should aspire to. That

7550
04:03:16,366 --> 04:03:17,801
kind of balance in how we

7551
04:03:17,801 --> 04:03:20,801
educate our students and, and

7552
04:03:20,937 --> 04:03:22,806
work with our staff. And

7553
04:03:22,806 --> 04:03:24,307
finally, I want to talk about

7554
04:03:24,307 --> 04:03:26,307
continuous monitoring and

7555
04:03:27,430 --> 04:03:28,846
improvement. When I tell you

7556
04:03:28,846 --> 04:03:30,714
that ai is changing, it's not

7557
04:03:30,714 --> 04:03:33,683
just changing by the year, it's

7558
04:03:33,683 --> 04:03:37,221
changing by the day. The models

7559
04:03:37,221 --> 04:03:37,955
that are being released now are

7560
04:03:37,955 --> 04:03:39,256
exponentially better and

7561
04:03:39,256 --> 04:03:40,324
different, and can do more

7562
04:03:40,324 --> 04:03:42,192
things than the ones that we

7563
04:03:42,192 --> 04:03:45,129
were using three months ago.

7564
04:03:45,129 --> 04:03:46,897
It's very hard to keep up, but

7565
04:03:46,897 --> 04:03:47,998
what we're doing here is we're

7566
04:03:47,998 --> 04:03:49,800
ensuring thahae have

7567
04:03:49,800 --> 04:03:52,360
continuous r revw ofheheools

7568
04:03:52,360 --> 04:03:53,770
that are outut there, continus

7569
04:03:53,770 --> 04:03:55,539
testing a and vetting o those

7570
04:03:55,539 --> 04:03:57,374
tools on when to incorporate

7571
04:03:57,374 --> 04:03:59,877
them, on what technologies are

7572
04:03:59,877 --> 04:04:01,344
evolving, continuous reaching

7573
04:04:01,344 --> 04:04:03,447
out to our stakeholder groups

7574
04:04:03,447 --> 04:04:04,915
to through our ai liaisons and

7575
04:04:04,915 --> 04:04:08,184
our ai task force and through

7576
04:04:08,184 --> 04:04:10,584
our community and business

7577
04:04:10,721 --> 04:04:13,121
partners and our advisory

7578
04:04:13,557 --> 04:04:15,957
groups. And we're measuring

7579
04:04:16,159 --> 04:04:17,928
things. Yes. And one of the

7580
04:04:17,928 --> 04:04:19,629
things that we definitely have

7581
04:04:19,629 --> 04:04:22,629
doubled down on is measuring

7582
04:04:23,400 --> 04:04:25,836
how ai is being used, how it's

7583
04:04:25,836 --> 04:04:28,272
being used at schools, for what

7584
04:04:28,272 --> 04:04:29,540
purpose, which tools are being

7585
04:04:29,540 --> 04:04:31,275
used more than others. These

7586
04:04:31,275 --> 04:04:33,811
are things that we've baked in

7587
04:04:33,811 --> 04:04:35,146
to our copilot deployment, and

7588
04:04:35,146 --> 04:04:36,647
it's going to be integral in

7589
04:04:36,647 --> 04:04:37,448
the Microsoft challenge coming

7590
04:04:37,448 --> 04:04:39,283
next year, where schools are

7591
04:04:39,283 --> 04:04:40,251
going to be rewarded for ai

7592
04:04:40,251 --> 04:04:41,652
engagement. And it's also

7593
04:04:41,652 --> 04:04:43,154
something that we're building

7594
04:04:43,154 --> 04:04:44,522
with our partners in Magic

7595
04:04:44,522 --> 04:04:46,324
School to ensure we have

7596
04:04:46,324 --> 04:04:47,358
metrics there that can measure.

7597
04:04:47,358 --> 04:04:49,193
And since that will be our

7598
04:04:49,193 --> 04:04:50,661
first student facing tool,

7599
04:04:50,661 --> 04:04:52,463
those are going to be critical

7600
04:04:52,463 --> 04:04:53,564
into ensuring and seeing how

7601
04:04:53,564 --> 04:04:55,333
students are using it and for

7602
04:04:55,333 --> 04:04:57,267
what purpose. All of these

7603
04:04:57,267 --> 04:04:59,670
things lead into the crafting

7604
04:04:59,670 --> 04:05:01,539
of this policy, which is why

7605
04:05:01,539 --> 04:05:02,807
when you when we do present the

7606
04:05:02,807 --> 04:05:04,375
policy, you're going to see

7607
04:05:04,375 --> 04:05:06,177
something that is flexible and

7608
04:05:06,177 --> 04:05:08,745
can change over time, because

7609
04:05:08,745 --> 04:05:10,681
that's what happens with ai. So

7610
04:05:10,681 --> 04:05:12,650
now I'm going to turn it back

7611
04:05:12,650 --> 04:05:13,751
to what I think is going to be

7612
04:05:13,751 --> 04:05:14,819
my favorite part of the

7613
04:05:14,819 --> 04:05:15,920
presentation. To talk about the

7614
04:05:15,920 --> 04:05:17,322
Nova Innovation Zone. Back to

7615
04:05:17,322 --> 04:05:19,322
Doctor Cone.

7616
04:05:21,259 --> 04:05:23,260
>> Thank you Manny. So

7617
04:05:23,260 --> 04:05:25,426
everything we've discussed thus

7618
04:05:25,897 --> 04:05:27,398
far today focused on system

7619
04:05:27,398 --> 04:05:30,301
readiness. Now I want to talk

7620
04:05:30,301 --> 04:05:31,668
about possibility. The Nova

7621
04:05:31,668 --> 04:05:33,838
Innovation Zone represents the

7622
04:05:33,838 --> 04:05:35,640
next evolution of public

7623
04:05:35,640 --> 04:05:37,809
education. This is not a

7624
04:05:37,809 --> 04:05:39,944
technology project. This is a

7625
04:05:39,944 --> 04:05:42,344
redesign of student experience.

7626
04:05:42,680 --> 04:05:44,348
This is a redesign of taking

7627
04:05:44,348 --> 04:05:46,840
the current educational model

7628
04:05:46,840 --> 04:05:48,619
that was designed during the

7629
04:05:48,619 --> 04:05:50,722
industrial era. Students moved

7630
04:05:50,722 --> 04:05:53,122
through content largely based

7631
04:05:53,358 --> 04:05:55,527
on the Carnegie model. And so

7632
04:05:55,527 --> 04:05:57,996
we wanted to take a look at how

7633
04:05:57,996 --> 04:05:59,164
students, in most cases, are

7634
04:05:59,164 --> 04:06:00,999
assessed the same ways that we

7635
04:06:00,999 --> 04:06:02,333
all grew up, and that the

7636
04:06:02,333 --> 04:06:03,868
future requires us to think a

7637
04:06:03,868 --> 04:06:06,268
little bit differently about

7638
04:06:06,271 --> 04:06:07,671
public education, and that the

7639
04:06:07,671 --> 04:06:10,710
Nova Innovation Zone is

7640
04:06:10,642 --> 04:06:12,377
designed around competency,

7641
04:06:12,377 --> 04:06:13,845
application, innovation,

7642
04:06:13,845 --> 04:06:15,845
workforce relevance, and

7643
04:06:17,150 --> 04:06:19,184
authentic problem solving. And

7644
04:06:19,184 --> 04:06:21,530
so Nova becomes our innovation

7645
04:06:21,530 --> 04:06:24,530
laboratory here. It's a place

7646
04:06:25,230 --> 04:06:27,159
where we explore mastery based

7647
04:06:27,159 --> 04:06:28,626
progression, ai embedded

7648
04:06:28,626 --> 04:06:30,626
personalization, project based

7649
04:06:31,960 --> 04:06:32,598
learning, university supported

7650
04:06:32,598 --> 04:06:34,733
pathways. The goal is not to

7651
04:06:34,733 --> 04:06:36,835
abandon standards. The goal is

7652
04:06:36,835 --> 04:06:38,369
to build beyond standards.

7653
04:06:38,369 --> 04:06:39,771
Students will continue to

7654
04:06:39,771 --> 04:06:41,906
master the Florida standards,

7655
04:06:41,906 --> 04:06:44,750
but they will also demonstrate

7656
04:06:44,750 --> 04:06:45,477
competencies that employers and

7657
04:06:45,477 --> 04:06:47,477
universities increasingly

7658
04:06:48,880 --> 04:06:50,516
demand. The future of education

7659
04:06:50,516 --> 04:06:52,351
cannot be built with the

7660
04:06:52,351 --> 04:06:53,819
district alone. And so in this

7661
04:06:53,819 --> 04:06:55,586
model, our industry leaders

7662
04:06:55,586 --> 04:06:57,523
will assist us in co-designing.

7663
04:06:57,523 --> 04:06:58,724
The learning universities must

7664
04:06:58,724 --> 04:07:00,291
become active partners where

7665
04:07:00,291 --> 04:07:02,600
they have students complete

7666
04:07:02,600 --> 04:07:03,962
their field experience, their

7667
04:07:03,962 --> 04:07:05,698
internships aligned to students

7668
04:07:05,698 --> 04:07:07,132
interests. And this means our

7669
04:07:07,132 --> 04:07:08,533
partner universities will have

7670
04:07:08,533 --> 04:07:09,735
first choice to make

7671
04:07:09,735 --> 04:07:12,135
connections and intersect with

7672
04:07:12,504 --> 04:07:13,972
our schools, establish those

7673
04:07:13,972 --> 04:07:15,374
relationships with our students

7674
04:07:15,374 --> 04:07:17,176
and parents, and ultimately

7675
04:07:17,176 --> 04:07:18,243
develop a strong pipeline for

7676
04:07:18,243 --> 04:07:19,745
students with the hope of

7677
04:07:19,745 --> 04:07:21,480
enrolling in some of these

7678
04:07:21,480 --> 04:07:24,717
schools, such as Nova fau and

7679
04:07:24,717 --> 04:07:26,218
Broward College, and community

7680
04:07:26,218 --> 04:07:27,586
organizations must become

7681
04:07:27,586 --> 04:07:29,121
contributors in. This opens the

7682
04:07:29,121 --> 04:07:31,524
doors where the Nova model

7683
04:07:31,524 --> 04:07:33,580
becomes the first in class 22nd

7684
04:07:33,580 --> 04:07:35,458
century model that is

7685
04:07:35,528 --> 04:07:37,330
nationally recognized. Partner

7686
04:07:37,330 --> 04:07:38,864
corporations will have a strong

7687
04:07:38,864 --> 04:07:40,733
connection to this initiative,

7688
04:07:40,733 --> 04:07:42,400
where professional mentors will

7689
04:07:42,400 --> 04:07:44,269
be enlisted by program and

7690
04:07:44,269 --> 04:07:46,269
industry certification. They

7691
04:07:46,671 --> 04:07:47,906
act as guest speakers, role

7692
04:07:47,906 --> 04:07:49,575
models, and eventually,

7693
04:07:49,575 --> 04:07:51,744
students and businesses could

7694
04:07:51,744 --> 04:07:53,446
see this endeavor as future

7695
04:07:53,446 --> 04:07:55,846
pathway for employment. The

7696
04:07:56,480 --> 04:07:57,549
Nova concept creates an

7697
04:07:57,549 --> 04:07:58,951
ecosystem where students

7698
04:07:58,951 --> 04:08:00,753
regularly interact with

7699
04:08:00,753 --> 04:08:02,488
professionals, mentors,

7700
04:08:02,488 --> 04:08:04,488
practitioners, and

7701
04:08:05,570 --> 04:08:07,457
entrepreneurs. This is where

7702
04:08:07,592 --> 04:08:09,592
Nova becomes transformational.

7703
04:08:10,462 --> 04:08:12,631
The model combines five

7704
04:08:12,631 --> 04:08:13,999
intersected pillars ai

7705
04:08:13,999 --> 04:08:15,999
accelerated academies, human

7706
04:08:16,602 --> 04:08:18,104
centered mentorship, xr

7707
04:08:18,104 --> 04:08:20,104
experiential learning, project

7708
04:08:20,539 --> 04:08:22,341
based studios, ai literacy, and

7709
04:08:22,341 --> 04:08:23,776
ethics. Students will not

7710
04:08:23,776 --> 04:08:25,177
simply learn about subjects.

7711
04:08:25,177 --> 04:08:27,447
Here, students will use

7712
04:08:27,447 --> 04:08:29,715
subjects to solve authentic

7713
04:08:29,715 --> 04:08:31,750
problems, and instead of asking,

7714
04:08:31,750 --> 04:08:33,586
what chapters are we on, we

7715
04:08:33,586 --> 04:08:35,655
begin asking what problems are

7716
04:08:35,655 --> 04:08:37,824
we solving? Instead of

7717
04:08:37,824 --> 04:08:39,992
measuring only seat time, we

7718
04:08:39,992 --> 04:08:41,527
begin to measure demonstrated

7719
04:08:41,527 --> 04:08:43,129
competency and students

7720
04:08:43,129 --> 04:08:45,129
progress through experiences

7721
04:08:45,365 --> 04:08:47,166
that mirror the way learning

7722
04:08:47,166 --> 04:08:49,350
occurs in universities,

7723
04:08:49,350 --> 04:08:51,350
research organizations, and

7724
04:08:53,720 --> 04:08:55,208
innovative industries. And one

7725
04:08:55,208 --> 04:08:56,976
of the most exciting elements

7726
04:08:56,976 --> 04:08:58,411
of Nova is the creation of

7727
04:08:58,411 --> 04:09:00,411
innovative laboratories, not

7728
04:09:00,847 --> 04:09:02,982
just for students, but for

7729
04:09:02,982 --> 04:09:04,149
teachers and teachers become

7730
04:09:04,149 --> 04:09:06,149
researchers. They become

7731
04:09:06,452 --> 04:09:08,452
learners, designers, innovators,

7732
04:09:09,890 --> 04:09:10,523
and problem solvers. University

7733
04:09:10,523 --> 04:09:12,359
partners like Microsoft,

7734
04:09:12,359 --> 04:09:14,160
industry leaders in bc,

7735
04:09:14,160 --> 04:09:16,560
educators work together to

7736
04:09:17,429 --> 04:09:19,199
continuously refine instruction.

7737
04:09:19,199 --> 04:09:21,670
This transforms professional

7738
04:09:21,670 --> 04:09:23,670
learning from occasional

7739
04:09:23,103 --> 04:09:25,103
workshops into continuous

7740
04:09:26,473 --> 04:09:28,575
innovation cycles, and so

7741
04:09:28,575 --> 04:09:30,343
success will not be measured by

7742
04:09:30,343 --> 04:09:32,145
technology adoption. Success

7743
04:09:32,145 --> 04:09:34,648
will be measured by outcomes,

7744
04:09:34,648 --> 04:09:36,449
by gaining teacher time, by

7745
04:09:36,449 --> 04:09:38,284
allowing students to gain

7746
04:09:38,284 --> 04:09:40,860
opportunity, increased

7747
04:09:40,860 --> 04:09:41,987
engagement, improved

7748
04:09:41,987 --> 04:09:43,987
achievement, expanded access,

7749
04:09:44,725 --> 04:09:46,927
and future readiness. And if we

7750
04:09:46,927 --> 04:09:48,927
cannot demonstrate improved

7751
04:09:49,960 --> 04:09:51,998
outcomes, then we adjust. The

7752
04:09:51,998 --> 04:09:54,998
goal is to impact, not

7753
04:09:55,202 --> 04:09:57,300
implementation. So the vision

7754
04:09:57,300 --> 04:09:58,438
before you today is bigger than

7755
04:09:58,438 --> 04:10:00,307
artificial intelligence. It is

7756
04:10:00,307 --> 04:10:01,641
about ensuring broad public

7757
04:10:01,641 --> 04:10:04,244
public schools remains a place

7758
04:10:04,244 --> 04:10:05,445
where innovation and humanity

7759
04:10:05,445 --> 04:10:07,414
coexist, where technology

7760
04:10:07,414 --> 04:10:09,216
serves people, where teachers

7761
04:10:09,216 --> 04:10:11,510
remain at the center and where

7762
04:10:11,510 --> 04:10:12,786
students remain at the heart,

7763
04:10:12,786 --> 04:10:14,922
and where the future is not

7764
04:10:14,922 --> 04:10:16,757
something that happens to us,

7765
04:10:16,757 --> 04:10:18,659
but something we intentionally

7766
04:10:18,659 --> 04:10:20,393
help create. The question is

7767
04:10:20,393 --> 04:10:21,495
not whether artificial

7768
04:10:21,495 --> 04:10:22,929
intelligence will shape the

7769
04:10:22,929 --> 04:10:24,198
future. The question is whether

7770
04:10:24,198 --> 04:10:26,133
Broward County Public Schools

7771
04:10:26,133 --> 04:10:29,133
will help shape it responsibly.

7772
04:10:29,369 --> 04:10:32,271
And I believe the answer is yes.

7773
04:10:32,271 --> 04:10:34,740
This concludes our presentation.

7774
04:10:34,740 --> 04:10:35,609
>> Thank you. We'll go to

7775
04:10:35,609 --> 04:10:37,444
public comment. I do see some

7776
04:10:37,444 --> 04:10:40,214
new faces in the audience, so I

7777
04:10:40,214 --> 04:10:41,682
just want to remind the public

7778
04:10:41,682 --> 04:10:43,349
that when I call your name,

7779
04:10:43,349 --> 04:10:45,219
please approach the mic. Please

7780
04:10:45,219 --> 04:10:47,200
follow the staff's instructions.

7781
04:10:47,200 --> 04:10:48,489
The board does not go back and

7782
04:10:48,489 --> 04:10:51,425
forth with members of the

7783
04:10:51,425 --> 04:10:52,826
public during this portion. So

7784
04:10:52,826 --> 04:10:53,894
I just wanted to make sure

7785
04:10:53,894 --> 04:10:55,795
everyone was aware. And then

7786
04:10:55,795 --> 04:10:56,897
when you hear the timer go off,

7787
04:10:56,897 --> 04:10:58,732
please yield the mic so that

7788
04:10:58,732 --> 04:10:59,834
the next speaker has the

7789
04:10:59,834 --> 04:11:01,735
opportunity to speak. So I'll

7790
04:11:01,735 --> 04:11:02,903
call up five names at a time.

7791
04:11:02,903 --> 04:11:04,405
Cynthia. Dominique. Actually,

7792
04:11:04,405 --> 04:11:05,372
I'll do like three names. For

7793
04:11:05,372 --> 04:11:08,372
some reason. The podium is

7794
04:11:08,642 --> 04:11:10,377
further back. Cynthia Dominique,

7795
04:11:10,377 --> 04:11:12,777
Brooke Bordey, and Heather

7796
04:11:25,892 --> 04:11:27,892
Velasquez.

7797
04:11:29,563 --> 04:11:32,399
>> All right, mic test. It's

7798
04:11:32,399 --> 04:11:35,399
good. All right. Good afternoon.

7799
04:11:36,737 --> 04:11:38,940
Brooke Bordey plantation. I am

7800
04:11:38,940 --> 04:11:41,375
a school advisory forum chair.

7801
04:11:41,375 --> 04:11:44,440
i'm a pta room coordinator. I

7802
04:11:44,440 --> 04:11:45,379
serve on several district level

7803
04:11:45,379 --> 04:11:46,480
advisories. I am absolutely

7804
04:11:46,480 --> 04:11:48,582
plugged in. And the other

7805
04:11:48,582 --> 04:11:51,118
parents who are here today were

7806
04:11:51,118 --> 04:11:52,553
here in earnest, trying to

7807
04:11:52,553 --> 04:11:55,123
deliver you the sentiment of

7808
04:11:55,123 --> 04:11:56,324
the community that it's

7809
04:11:56,324 --> 04:11:59,600
sometimes hard to get through.

7810
04:11:59,600 --> 04:12:00,494
So we're not here speaking for

7811
04:12:00,494 --> 04:12:02,730
ourselves. It is our community

7812
04:12:02,730 --> 04:12:03,931
that is profoundly concerned,

7813
04:12:03,931 --> 04:12:05,833
which is why, you know, we're

7814
04:12:05,833 --> 04:12:06,935
supposed to be on a road to

7815
04:12:06,935 --> 04:12:08,736
Disney with medieval time

7816
04:12:08,736 --> 04:12:10,238
reservations. We stayed. And we

7817
04:12:10,238 --> 04:12:12,740
might MISS That because we're

7818
04:12:12,740 --> 04:12:15,140
here representing many, many

7819
04:12:15,610 --> 04:12:17,378
families in my mom life. I was

7820
04:12:17,378 --> 04:12:18,813
a commercial litigator, which

7821
04:12:18,813 --> 04:12:20,648
is something I don't usually

7822
04:12:20,648 --> 04:12:22,116
share, but I frequented the

7823
04:12:22,116 --> 04:12:23,952
courthouse just down the street.

7824
04:12:23,952 --> 04:12:26,821
And I see you, the board here

7825
04:12:26,821 --> 04:12:29,990
today as judges that I need to

7826
04:12:29,990 --> 04:12:31,590
convince of our concerns, given

7827
04:12:31,590 --> 04:12:32,894
that there's some debate in

7828
04:12:32,894 --> 04:12:34,362
this room about safety and the

7829
04:12:34,362 --> 04:12:35,897
appropriate use of ai in the

7830
04:12:35,897 --> 04:12:37,198
classroom, I think it helps the

7831
04:12:37,198 --> 04:12:39,300
decision making process to

7832
04:12:39,300 --> 04:12:41,836
focus on the law, and it will

7833
04:12:41,836 --> 04:12:43,405
become very clear that this

7834
04:12:43,405 --> 04:12:45,106
board needs to reconsider the

7835
04:12:45,106 --> 04:12:46,574
the direction of this

7836
04:12:46,574 --> 04:12:48,409
initiative. The district is

7837
04:12:48,409 --> 04:12:49,778
already not in compliance with

7838
04:12:49,778 --> 04:12:51,613
Sopa, which requires school

7839
04:12:51,613 --> 04:12:53,480
districts to identify all the

7840
04:12:53,480 --> 04:12:54,449
software it provides to

7841
04:12:54,449 --> 04:12:56,285
students, as well as the actual

7842
04:12:56,285 --> 04:12:57,751
underlying contract. The bcc

7843
04:12:57,751 --> 04:12:59,187
web page that lists

7844
04:12:59,187 --> 04:13:00,922
supplemental software is

7845
04:13:00,922 --> 04:13:02,424
absolutely incomplete. The

7846
04:13:02,424 --> 04:13:04,559
district has had months to

7847
04:13:04,559 --> 04:13:06,194
correct this deficiency. Given

7848
04:13:06,194 --> 04:13:07,829
the simplicity of just posting

7849
04:13:07,829 --> 04:13:08,964
the contracts for the

7850
04:13:08,964 --> 04:13:09,998
supplemental software, I have

7851
04:13:09,998 --> 04:13:11,432
very little faith that

7852
04:13:11,432 --> 04:13:13,167
something as complicated and

7853
04:13:13,167 --> 04:13:14,302
risky as artificial

7854
04:13:14,302 --> 04:13:16,304
intelligence could be done in a

7855
04:13:16,304 --> 04:13:17,906
way that does not pose a risk

7856
04:13:17,906 --> 04:13:18,873
to our children. Another law to

7857
04:13:18,873 --> 04:13:20,442
consider is the forthcoming

7858
04:13:20,442 --> 04:13:21,777
Guard Act, which is a

7859
04:13:21,777 --> 04:13:23,777
bipartisan federal legislation

7860
04:13:25,112 --> 04:13:26,515
that, if passed, will ban ai

7861
04:13:26,515 --> 04:13:28,684
chatbots for children under the

7862
04:13:28,684 --> 04:13:29,918
age of 18. Florida is

7863
04:13:29,918 --> 04:13:32,354
considering its own set of laws

7864
04:13:32,354 --> 04:13:34,589
as well. Perhaps we should

7865
04:13:34,589 --> 04:13:36,658
pause the rollout to ai lest

7866
04:13:36,658 --> 04:13:39,461
this district finds egg on its

7867
04:13:39,461 --> 04:13:40,896
face. I also see copilot pilot

7868
04:13:40,896 --> 04:13:43,980
rollout as a threat to ferpa,

7869
04:13:43,980 --> 04:13:44,832
giving copilot access to cps

7870
04:13:44,832 --> 04:13:46,668
email accounts will certainly

7871
04:13:46,668 --> 04:13:48,437
lead to the capture, analysis,

7872
04:13:48,437 --> 04:13:49,871
and storage of sensitive

7873
04:13:49,871 --> 04:13:51,871
student information and

7874
04:13:52,107 --> 04:13:53,142
personally identifiable

7875
04:13:53,142 --> 04:13:54,209
information, thereby

7876
04:13:54,209 --> 04:13:55,677
circumventing and violating

7877
04:13:55,677 --> 04:13:57,446
ferpa. It's an obvious

7878
04:13:57,446 --> 04:13:59,281
liability for the district

7879
04:13:59,281 --> 04:14:02,281
legal adjacent is this board's

7880
04:14:02,718 --> 04:14:04,386
policy 6313, which prescribes

7881
04:14:04,386 --> 04:14:06,550
the Institutional Review Board

7882
04:14:06,550 --> 04:14:08,230
that is required for research

7883
04:14:08,230 --> 04:14:09,758
performed on children. I want

7884
04:14:09,758 --> 04:14:11,427
to welcome the student advisors,

7885
04:14:11,427 --> 04:14:13,695
but I do want to say many of

7886
04:14:13,695 --> 04:14:14,797
the concerns are coming from

7887
04:14:14,797 --> 04:14:16,198
elementary parents and the

7888
04:14:16,198 --> 04:14:18,320
survey tools available to the

7889
04:14:18,320 --> 04:14:19,434
student advisors do not reach

7890
04:14:19,434 --> 04:14:20,903
elementary students. Our

7891
04:14:20,903 --> 04:14:22,400
children have access to

7892
04:14:22,400 --> 04:14:24,400
different technology than

7893
04:14:24,907 --> 04:14:25,775
current high schoolers. This

7894
04:14:25,775 --> 04:14:27,343
board should know that there is

7895
04:14:27,343 --> 04:14:28,844
no public facing implementation

7896
04:14:28,844 --> 04:14:29,979
plan. I don't know what

7897
04:14:29,979 --> 04:14:32,470
technology my kids will have

7898
04:14:32,470 --> 04:14:34,249
come fall. So this presentation

7899
04:14:34,249 --> 04:14:35,684
doesn't constitute an

7900
04:14:35,684 --> 04:14:36,885
implementation plan. Thank you.

7901
04:14:36,885 --> 04:14:38,154
>> Thank you. I remember I

7902
04:14:38,154 --> 04:14:40,554
called Cynthia Dominique and

7903
04:14:41,123 --> 04:14:42,958
Heather Velasquez, and then the

7904
04:14:42,958 --> 04:14:45,361
next three names are Kirsten

7905
04:14:45,361 --> 04:14:47,163
Hope, Matthew Bordy, and Trudy

7906
04:14:47,163 --> 04:14:49,563
Germanovich. Could someone from

7907
04:14:49,732 --> 04:14:52,732
staff turn the timer off,

7908
04:14:54,300 --> 04:14:54,870
please? Thank you, MR. Ho. All

7909
04:14:54,870 --> 04:14:56,238
right, so I'll just say the

7910
04:14:56,238 --> 04:14:58,407
names again. Cynthia, Dominique,

7911
04:14:58,407 --> 04:14:59,342
Heather Velasquez, Kirsten Hope,

7912
04:14:59,342 --> 04:15:01,742
Matthew Bordy, and Trudy

7913
04:15:04,447 --> 04:15:06,248
Germanovich. Welcome.

7914
04:15:06,248 --> 04:15:07,649
>> Hi.

7915
04:15:07,649 --> 04:15:09,885
>> Good afternoon. My name is

7916
04:15:09,885 --> 04:15:10,987
Heather Velasquez from Davie. I

7917
04:15:10,987 --> 04:15:12,922
would just like to take a

7918
04:15:12,922 --> 04:15:14,123
moment to say that I had a

7919
04:15:14,123 --> 04:15:15,925
really hard time gathering my

7920
04:15:15,925 --> 04:15:17,260
thoughts to express how I feel

7921
04:15:17,260 --> 04:15:18,795
about this, because it is

7922
04:15:18,795 --> 04:15:19,996
overwhelming. I am a parent who

7923
04:15:19,996 --> 04:15:22,765
doesn't know a lot about ai. I

7924
04:15:22,765 --> 04:15:23,532
do know that it has amazing

7925
04:15:23,532 --> 04:15:25,468
capabilities and great

7926
04:15:25,468 --> 04:15:27,203
strengths, but I worry about

7927
04:15:27,203 --> 04:15:28,705
how I can protect my own child

7928
04:15:28,705 --> 04:15:30,306
and how other parents can do

7929
04:15:30,306 --> 04:15:31,708
the same if they don't have the

7930
04:15:31,708 --> 04:15:33,309
skill set and the knowledge on

7931
04:15:33,309 --> 04:15:34,944
the technology and the tools

7932
04:15:34,944 --> 04:15:36,780
that are being made available

7933
04:15:36,780 --> 04:15:37,179
to our teachers and our

7934
04:15:37,179 --> 04:15:38,982
students. So I just want to

7935
04:15:38,982 --> 04:15:40,483
reference slide 25, where it

7936
04:15:40,483 --> 04:15:41,885
says that ai should enhance

7937
04:15:41,885 --> 04:15:43,853
critical thinking, problem

7938
04:15:43,853 --> 04:15:45,321
solving, creativity analysis

7939
04:15:45,321 --> 04:15:47,290
and reasoning, collaboration

7940
04:15:47,290 --> 04:15:49,690
and communication, and real

7941
04:15:49,791 --> 04:15:52,191
world application of learning.

7942
04:15:53,620 --> 04:15:54,497
What does ai enhance cognitive

7943
04:15:54,497 --> 04:15:56,897
offloading? And it is

7944
04:15:57,000 --> 04:15:58,100
concerning to hear someone say

7945
04:15:58,100 --> 04:15:59,936
that they didn't remember how

7946
04:15:59,936 --> 04:16:01,671
to do a math problem, so they

7947
04:16:01,671 --> 04:16:03,206
just plugged it into ai, and

7948
04:16:03,206 --> 04:16:05,274
that's no shade to anybody. But

7949
04:16:05,274 --> 04:16:06,376
that is real. We hear

7950
04:16:06,376 --> 04:16:07,543
professionals say all the time

7951
04:16:07,543 --> 04:16:09,245
they feel like it's dumbing

7952
04:16:09,245 --> 04:16:10,379
them down, and I want my

7953
04:16:10,379 --> 04:16:11,748
elementary child to make sure

7954
04:16:11,748 --> 04:16:13,216
he has the opportunity to

7955
04:16:13,216 --> 04:16:15,180
develop those critical thinking

7956
04:16:15,180 --> 04:16:17,152
skills and those foundational

7957
04:16:17,152 --> 04:16:19,389
learning skills that we all use

7958
04:16:19,389 --> 04:16:21,358
today, because the human can't

7959
04:16:21,358 --> 04:16:22,559
be a part of the loop if they

7960
04:16:22,559 --> 04:16:24,393
don't have those foundational

7961
04:16:24,393 --> 04:16:25,829
skills. So I want my child to

7962
04:16:25,829 --> 04:16:27,931
enter middle school, to enter

7963
04:16:27,931 --> 04:16:30,660
high school, and have those

7964
04:16:30,660 --> 04:16:31,935
foundational skills to still be

7965
04:16:31,935 --> 04:16:33,669
an active participant as a

7966
04:16:33,669 --> 04:16:36,669
human being, not just relying

7967
04:16:37,340 --> 04:16:38,775
on that tool of ai. So I also

7968
04:16:38,775 --> 04:16:40,243
am very concerned for our

7969
04:16:40,243 --> 04:16:42,790
teachers and their ability to

7970
04:16:42,790 --> 04:16:43,112
keep up with the rapid

7971
04:16:43,112 --> 04:16:44,513
implementation of all of these

7972
04:16:44,513 --> 04:16:46,913
different resources. I think

7973
04:16:47,417 --> 04:16:49,519
that we are expressing a lot of

7974
04:16:49,519 --> 04:16:52,519
support and offloading for them

7975
04:16:52,522 --> 04:16:53,857
and giving them time back, but

7976
04:16:53,857 --> 04:16:55,425
how are we making sure that

7977
04:16:55,425 --> 04:16:57,600
we're not overloading them with

7978
04:16:57,600 --> 04:16:59,329
the skills they need to learn

7979
04:16:59,329 --> 04:17:00,697
to be able to effectively

7980
04:17:00,697 --> 04:17:03,697
implement the tools and have

7981
04:17:03,967 --> 04:17:05,269
the time? My understanding, and

7982
04:17:05,269 --> 04:17:07,300
I would love some clarification

7983
04:17:07,300 --> 04:17:10,441
on this, is that while you say

7984
04:17:10,441 --> 04:17:12,275
that the training is required,

7985
04:17:12,275 --> 04:17:14,770
who's who's checking that,

7986
04:17:14,770 --> 04:17:15,679
what's the accountability for

7987
04:17:15,679 --> 04:17:16,814
that? And how are we making

7988
04:17:16,814 --> 04:17:20,150
sure that the teachers and the

7989
04:17:20,150 --> 04:17:21,919
staff are utilizing these tools

7990
04:17:21,919 --> 04:17:23,919
ethically, efficacy, the

7991
04:17:24,454 --> 04:17:26,724
efficacy of them, if nobody's

7992
04:17:26,724 --> 04:17:28,920
ensuring that they are trained

7993
04:17:28,920 --> 04:17:29,559
before they roll these out and

7994
04:17:29,559 --> 04:17:31,695
have their students use them,

7995
04:17:31,695 --> 04:17:32,929
that's a big concern for me. I

7996
04:17:32,929 --> 04:17:34,665
really want to know what the

7997
04:17:34,665 --> 04:17:35,665
district goals are and how

7998
04:17:35,665 --> 04:17:37,768
they're measured. Engagement to

7999
04:17:37,768 --> 04:17:40,270
me is not totally an accurate

8000
04:17:40,270 --> 04:17:41,739
measurement of effectiveness.

8001
04:17:41,739 --> 04:17:43,207
We approved last week or the

8002
04:17:43,207 --> 04:17:45,900
board approved last week more

8003
04:17:45,900 --> 04:17:47,177
more funding for prisms without

8004
04:17:47,177 --> 04:17:49,446
any real data on how that, you

8005
04:17:49,446 --> 04:17:51,315
know, improved learning gains.

8006
04:17:51,315 --> 04:17:52,483
I know that what was said was

8007
04:17:52,483 --> 04:17:53,551
more of like, well, we know

8008
04:17:53,551 --> 04:17:55,351
students were engaged. They

8009
04:17:55,351 --> 04:17:57,221
were excited to come to class.

8010
04:17:57,221 --> 04:17:59,390
Well, that is important. Is it

8011
04:17:59,390 --> 04:18:00,490
really improving their

8012
04:18:00,490 --> 04:18:01,525
educational skills and their

8013
04:18:01,525 --> 04:18:03,525
knowledge?

8014
04:18:04,795 --> 04:18:06,897
>> I'm running out of time.

8015
04:18:06,897 --> 04:18:08,832
>> So I think that I said a lot

8016
04:18:08,832 --> 04:18:10,000
of what I really wanted to say,

8017
04:18:10,000 --> 04:18:11,135
but thank you guys for giving

8018
04:18:11,135 --> 04:18:12,937
us this opportunity. Oh, I

8019
04:18:12,937 --> 04:18:14,400
don't think that there has been

8020
04:18:14,400 --> 04:18:15,500
a public facing parent plan

8021
04:18:15,500 --> 04:18:16,807
implementation plan. I went to

8022
04:18:16,807 --> 04:18:17,942
this symposium and left with

8023
04:18:17,942 --> 04:18:19,977
more questions, so that didn't

8024
04:18:19,977 --> 04:18:20,811
get a chance to be answered

8025
04:18:20,811 --> 04:18:21,120
because they canceled at the

8026
04:18:21,120 --> 04:18:23,120
end.

8027
04:18:26,170 --> 04:18:28,417
>> Thank you. Next speaker.

8028
04:18:28,586 --> 04:18:30,586
>> Heather.

8029
04:18:32,857 --> 04:18:34,692
>> Good afternoon. This is Mike

8030
04:18:34,692 --> 04:18:36,828
on. Welcome. Oh, good. How are

8031
04:18:36,828 --> 04:18:38,295
you guys? Good afternoon

8032
04:18:38,295 --> 04:18:40,164
superintendent, school board

8033
04:18:40,164 --> 04:18:42,232
members and fellow parents. My

8034
04:18:42,232 --> 04:18:44,100
name is Matthew Board. I have

8035
04:18:44,100 --> 04:18:46,604
three children here in Broward

8036
04:18:46,604 --> 04:18:48,390
County schools. I'm an

8037
04:18:48,390 --> 04:18:49,774
entrepreneur and I build

8038
04:18:49,774 --> 04:18:51,909
products, physical products and

8039
04:18:51,909 --> 04:18:54,780
ai embedded systems and

8040
04:18:54,780 --> 04:18:56,748
software for a living. I'm not

8041
04:18:56,748 --> 04:18:57,815
here because I fear artificial

8042
04:18:57,815 --> 04:19:00,215
intelligence. I'm here because

8043
04:19:00,218 --> 04:19:02,720
I understand it. Large language

8044
04:19:02,720 --> 04:19:04,622
models like Chatgpt, Copilot

8045
04:19:04,622 --> 04:19:08,222
Magic School do not think they

8046
04:19:08,493 --> 04:19:11,429
do not understand truth. They

8047
04:19:11,429 --> 04:19:13,998
predict the most likely word

8048
04:19:13,998 --> 04:19:15,333
based on patterns in data.

8049
04:19:15,333 --> 04:19:16,800
Sometimes the results are

8050
04:19:16,800 --> 04:19:18,635
impressive. Sometimes they're

8051
04:19:18,635 --> 04:19:19,670
completely wrong, especially

8052
04:19:19,670 --> 04:19:21,439
especially in product

8053
04:19:21,439 --> 04:19:23,439
development and software

8054
04:19:24,342 --> 04:19:26,177
development. Together in ai

8055
04:19:26,177 --> 04:19:26,978
industry, we call this a

8056
04:19:26,978 --> 04:19:28,978
hallucination. These systems

8057
04:19:29,130 --> 04:19:31,413
can confidently generate false

8058
04:19:31,515 --> 04:19:33,515
facts, inaccurate explanations,

8059
04:19:33,685 --> 04:19:35,486
biased content, and entirely

8060
04:19:35,486 --> 04:19:37,322
fabricate information. Even

8061
04:19:37,322 --> 04:19:39,457
companies that build them

8062
04:19:39,457 --> 04:19:40,925
acknowledge this limitation.

8063
04:19:40,925 --> 04:19:42,760
Yet Broward is rapidly

8064
04:19:42,760 --> 04:19:44,496
expanding ai in classrooms

8065
04:19:44,496 --> 04:19:46,631
where nearly 40% of our

8066
04:19:46,631 --> 04:19:48,533
students are still not reading

8067
04:19:48,533 --> 04:19:50,340
proficiently at a grade level.

8068
04:19:50,340 --> 04:19:51,303
My concern is simple we're

8069
04:19:51,303 --> 04:19:53,138
helping students become

8070
04:19:53,138 --> 04:19:55,307
stronger readers, writers, and

8071
04:19:55,307 --> 04:19:57,843
critical thinkers. Or are we

8072
04:19:57,843 --> 04:19:59,277
normalizing technology that is

8073
04:19:59,277 --> 04:20:01,413
increasingly does the thinking

8074
04:20:01,413 --> 04:20:03,949
for them? I also have concerns

8075
04:20:03,949 --> 04:20:06,451
about privacy. We hold. These

8076
04:20:06,451 --> 04:20:08,253
systems are ferpa compliant,

8077
04:20:08,253 --> 04:20:09,688
but ferpa is a legal

8078
04:20:09,688 --> 04:20:11,155
requirement and not a

8079
04:20:11,155 --> 04:20:13,155
technological safeguard that

8080
04:20:13,624 --> 04:20:15,494
keeps ai within its boundaries.

8081
04:20:15,494 --> 04:20:16,895
Parents deserve transparency

8082
04:20:16,895 --> 04:20:18,290
regarding what student

8083
04:20:18,290 --> 04:20:20,290
information, assignments,

8084
04:20:20,165 --> 04:20:21,967
documents, emails, educational

8085
04:20:21,967 --> 04:20:24,870
records MAY be processed by

8086
04:20:24,870 --> 04:20:27,339
these systems and how that

8087
04:20:27,339 --> 04:20:29,140
information is protected before

8088
04:20:29,140 --> 04:20:31,276
expanding ai further. This

8089
04:20:31,276 --> 04:20:33,244
district owes the parents clear

8090
04:20:33,244 --> 04:20:35,180
answers meaningful oversight

8091
04:20:35,180 --> 04:20:35,713
evidence that these tools are

8092
04:20:35,713 --> 04:20:37,713
improving student outcomes

8093
04:20:38,417 --> 04:20:39,818
rather than simply making

8094
04:20:39,818 --> 04:20:41,319
simply making, providing

8095
04:20:41,319 --> 04:20:43,719
technology companies with the

8096
04:20:44,555 --> 04:20:46,291
data that they want. Can the

8097
04:20:46,291 --> 04:20:47,726
district identify a single

8098
04:20:47,726 --> 04:20:49,160
technical safeguard that

8099
04:20:49,160 --> 04:20:50,629
automatically prevents

8100
04:20:50,629 --> 04:20:52,431
hallucinated or factually

8101
04:20:52,431 --> 04:20:53,899
inaccurate ai generated content

8102
04:20:53,899 --> 04:20:55,800
from reaching students without

8103
04:20:55,800 --> 04:20:57,869
a human catching the error? As

8104
04:20:57,869 --> 04:20:59,604
a product developer? And the

8105
04:20:59,604 --> 04:21:02,241
technical answer is no, there

8106
04:21:02,241 --> 04:21:04,276
is no filter for hallucinations.

8107
04:21:04,276 --> 04:21:07,947
So my question to the board is

8108
04:21:07,947 --> 04:21:09,414
who is the human safety net?

8109
04:21:09,414 --> 04:21:11,183
And my final question is, can

8110
04:21:11,183 --> 04:21:12,951
the district guarantee that no

8111
04:21:12,951 --> 04:21:14,951
student educational records,

8112
04:21:15,870 --> 04:21:16,522
behavioral information, emails,

8113
04:21:16,522 --> 04:21:18,922
assignments, or personal data

8114
04:21:19,825 --> 04:21:22,610
will ever be used in a way that

8115
04:21:22,610 --> 04:21:23,461
parents did not intend to or

8116
04:21:23,461 --> 04:21:25,164
expect? And if that happens,

8117
04:21:25,164 --> 04:21:26,999
who's accountable? The software

8118
04:21:26,999 --> 04:21:28,467
company or Broward County

8119
04:21:28,467 --> 04:21:29,902
schools? As a technology

8120
04:21:29,902 --> 04:21:31,704
professional, I know that most

8121
04:21:31,704 --> 04:21:33,572
dangerous thing about ai isn't

8122
04:21:33,572 --> 04:21:35,240
when it's obviously wrong, it's

8123
04:21:35,240 --> 04:21:37,843
when it's wrong and sounds

8124
04:21:37,843 --> 04:21:39,612
convincing. Thank you.

8125
04:21:39,612 --> 04:21:40,846
>> Thank you. Next speaker.

8126
04:21:40,846 --> 04:21:41,380
>> MADAM Chair, what is his

8127
04:21:41,380 --> 04:21:43,380
name?

8128
04:21:44,349 --> 04:21:45,510
>> That was Matthew Board.

8129
04:21:45,510 --> 04:21:46,752
>> Thank you.

8130
04:21:46,752 --> 04:21:48,287
>> I have Kirsten Hope, Trudy

8131
04:21:48,287 --> 04:21:50,287
Germanovich, Rochelle Sofer,

8132
04:21:52,357 --> 04:21:54,226
and Jennifer Dubbin. Welcome.

8133
04:21:54,226 --> 04:21:55,461
>> Hi. Good morning. My name is

8134
04:21:55,461 --> 04:21:57,229
Kirsten Hope and I'm from Davie.

8135
04:21:57,229 --> 04:21:58,364
I'm here as a concerned parent

8136
04:21:58,364 --> 04:22:00,132
of three children and

8137
04:22:00,132 --> 04:22:01,199
advocating for all children. In

8138
04:22:01,199 --> 04:22:04,169
fact, I brought six children

8139
04:22:04,169 --> 04:22:05,370
here today just to speak. So if

8140
04:22:05,370 --> 04:22:07,139
you ever wonder why you hear

8141
04:22:07,139 --> 04:22:08,374
from the same people over and

8142
04:22:08,374 --> 04:22:09,274
over again, it's because it's

8143
04:22:09,274 --> 04:22:11,744
really difficult to get down

8144
04:22:11,744 --> 04:22:14,880
here with children. In APRIL of

8145
04:22:14,880 --> 04:22:16,682
this year, 2026, Fair Play, a

8146
04:22:16,682 --> 04:22:18,518
coalition of child advocates,

8147
04:22:18,518 --> 04:22:19,552
educators, researchers, and

8148
04:22:19,552 --> 04:22:21,952
organizations put out a

8149
04:22:22,154 --> 04:22:24,554
position paper. This 29 page

8150
04:22:24,923 --> 04:22:26,526
paper, signed by over 260

8151
04:22:26,526 --> 04:22:28,561
organizations and experts, call

8152
04:22:28,561 --> 04:22:30,395
for a five year moratorium on

8153
04:22:30,395 --> 04:22:32,565
student facing generative ai

8154
04:22:32,565 --> 04:22:34,330
products in k through 12. The

8155
04:22:34,330 --> 04:22:35,401
authors argue that ai tools are

8156
04:22:35,401 --> 04:22:37,300
being introduced in classrooms

8157
04:22:37,300 --> 04:22:39,720
before the educational benefits

8158
04:22:39,720 --> 04:22:40,740
have been proven, and before

8159
04:22:40,740 --> 04:22:43,140
adequate safeguards exist for

8160
04:22:43,309 --> 04:22:44,978
for kids, the key concerns

8161
04:22:44,978 --> 04:22:46,245
cognitive cognitive development

8162
04:22:46,245 --> 04:22:47,614
and learning, social and

8163
04:22:47,614 --> 04:22:49,820
emotional development, mental

8164
04:22:49,820 --> 04:22:50,149
health risks, privacy and

8165
04:22:50,149 --> 04:22:52,149
surveillance, misinformation

8166
04:22:52,718 --> 04:22:54,154
and accuracy, impact on

8167
04:22:54,154 --> 04:22:55,922
teachers equity concerns,

8168
04:22:55,922 --> 04:22:57,922
academic integrity and

8169
04:22:58,425 --> 04:23:00,226
environmental costs. The

8170
04:23:00,226 --> 04:23:02,226
classrooms already utilize

8171
04:23:02,429 --> 04:23:04,429
adaptive educational technology

8172
04:23:04,531 --> 04:23:05,398
platforms. Despite years of

8173
04:23:05,398 --> 04:23:07,670
implementation, these tools

8174
04:23:07,670 --> 04:23:08,233
have not produced the

8175
04:23:08,233 --> 04:23:10,233
transformational academic gains

8176
04:23:10,270 --> 04:23:11,470
that were promised. In many

8177
04:23:11,470 --> 04:23:12,805
cases, they have become

8178
04:23:12,805 --> 04:23:13,940
substitute for direct

8179
04:23:13,940 --> 04:23:15,410
instruction and human

8180
04:23:15,410 --> 04:23:16,776
interaction rather than

8181
04:23:16,776 --> 04:23:18,245
enhancements to learning. What

8182
04:23:18,245 --> 04:23:20,347
evidence suggests that ai will

8183
04:23:20,347 --> 04:23:22,882
produce a different result. At

8184
04:23:22,882 --> 04:23:25,510
its core, education is a human

8185
04:23:25,510 --> 04:23:28,510
endeavor. Teachers do more than

8186
04:23:28,754 --> 04:23:30,123
deliver content. They build

8187
04:23:30,123 --> 04:23:31,925
relationships, provide

8188
04:23:31,925 --> 04:23:33,126
mentorship. They inspire

8189
04:23:33,126 --> 04:23:34,794
curiosity, and understand the

8190
04:23:34,794 --> 04:23:36,629
unique needs of each of their

8191
04:23:36,629 --> 04:23:38,310
students. Expanding the role of

8192
04:23:38,310 --> 04:23:39,899
ai risks further widening of

8193
04:23:39,899 --> 04:23:41,668
the gap between teachers and

8194
04:23:41,668 --> 04:23:42,702
students, while reducing

8195
04:23:42,702 --> 04:23:44,702
opportunities for meaningful,

8196
04:23:44,837 --> 04:23:46,273
meaningful human connection. At

8197
04:23:46,273 --> 04:23:48,108
a time where young people are

8198
04:23:48,108 --> 04:23:50,108
experiencing increasing social

8199
04:23:50,410 --> 04:23:51,712
isolation and mental health

8200
04:23:51,712 --> 04:23:53,913
challenges, we should be

8201
04:23:53,913 --> 04:23:55,281
investing in stronger human

8202
04:23:55,281 --> 04:23:57,281
relationships, not replacing

8203
04:23:57,618 --> 04:23:58,918
them with technology. Stating

8204
04:23:58,918 --> 04:24:00,720
that over and over again

8205
04:24:00,720 --> 04:24:02,889
doesn't that it doesn't replace

8206
04:24:02,889 --> 04:24:04,324
teachers, doesn't make it true.

8207
04:24:04,324 --> 04:24:06,930
Employees are expected to

8208
04:24:06,930 --> 04:24:08,328
review ai generated content,

8209
04:24:08,328 --> 04:24:10,728
verify accuracy, monitor an

8210
04:24:10,764 --> 04:24:12,899
entire classroom of students,

8211
04:24:12,899 --> 04:24:14,899
and exercise professional

8212
04:24:15,102 --> 04:24:16,403
judgment. However, formal ai

8213
04:24:16,403 --> 04:24:18,372
training is not required for

8214
04:24:18,372 --> 04:24:20,908
all employees anywhere in this

8215
04:24:20,908 --> 04:24:21,975
implementation plan. Without

8216
04:24:21,975 --> 04:24:23,676
comprehensive and mandatory

8217
04:24:23,676 --> 04:24:25,579
training, how can we expect a

8218
04:24:25,579 --> 04:24:27,579
reasonable implementation of

8219
04:24:28,480 --> 04:24:29,149
ethics and safety and, you know,

8220
04:24:29,149 --> 04:24:31,149
consistency across all

8221
04:24:31,685 --> 04:24:33,820
classrooms? This s pl isot

8222
04:24:33,820 --> 04:24:35,550
inking of thee fute liket

8223
04:24:35,550 --> 04:24:36,857
ateses. Wl nott be ab too

8224
04:24:36,857 --> 04:24:38,558
affo thehese products when the

8225
04:24:38,558 --> 04:24:40,360
money runs out. Focusing on the

8226
04:24:40,360 --> 04:24:41,829
future would be implementing

8227
04:24:41,829 --> 04:24:43,730
actual foundational computer

8228
04:24:43,730 --> 04:24:45,432
skills like typing. Screen time

8229
04:24:45,432 --> 04:24:46,834
is not a hypothetical concern.

8230
04:24:46,834 --> 04:24:48,234
Decades of research have

8231
04:24:48,234 --> 04:24:49,669
documented its impacts on

8232
04:24:49,669 --> 04:24:51,572
cognition, physical health,

8233
04:24:51,572 --> 04:24:52,606
attention, and social emotional

8234
04:24:52,606 --> 04:24:53,974
well-being. Pediatrician and

8235
04:24:53,974 --> 04:24:55,209
child experts continue to

8236
04:24:55,209 --> 04:24:57,209
recommend minimizing screen

8237
04:24:57,945 --> 04:25:00,114
time exposure whenever possible

8238
04:25:00,114 --> 04:25:02,616
to. It's not just the fear of

8239
04:25:02,616 --> 04:25:03,684
the unknown. We know. Okay,

8240
04:25:03,684 --> 04:25:05,684
thank you.

8241
04:25:11,992 --> 04:25:14,195
>> Thank you. Next speaker.

8242
04:25:14,195 --> 04:25:15,195
>> My name is Doctor Trudy

8243
04:25:15,195 --> 04:25:17,595
Germanovich. I began learning

8244
04:25:18,199 --> 04:25:20,268
about technology by attending a

8245
04:25:20,268 --> 04:25:23,868
computer meeting at a garage in

8246
04:25:25,673 --> 04:25:27,475
Los Altos, California in 1976.

8247
04:25:27,475 --> 04:25:30,378
Unfortunately, it was not Steve

8248
04:25:30,378 --> 04:25:32,479
Jobs garage. Since that time,

8249
04:25:32,479 --> 04:25:35,349
I've been interested in what's

8250
04:25:35,349 --> 04:25:36,450
being called bleeding edge

8251
04:25:36,450 --> 04:25:38,850
technology. The discussion

8252
04:25:38,850 --> 04:25:40,120
today is similar to what we had

8253
04:25:40,120 --> 04:25:41,256
when we first had access to the

8254
04:25:41,256 --> 04:25:43,691
internet, and I'm glad we're

8255
04:25:43,691 --> 04:25:45,493
hearing about it today. I'm

8256
04:25:45,493 --> 04:25:47,294
also a longtime proponent of

8257
04:25:47,294 --> 04:25:49,196
opting out. You can see from

8258
04:25:49,196 --> 04:25:51,598
the back of my t shirt, which

8259
04:25:51,598 --> 04:25:53,330
is the opt out network. The opt

8260
04:25:53,330 --> 04:25:54,535
out network was formed by

8261
04:25:54,535 --> 04:25:56,637
parents throughout the country

8262
04:25:56,637 --> 04:25:58,238
in 2014, who believed that

8263
04:25:58,238 --> 04:26:01,308
online testing would be bad for

8264
04:26:01,308 --> 04:26:02,750
their children. They were not

8265
04:26:02,750 --> 04:26:03,444
anti-technology. These are

8266
04:26:03,444 --> 04:26:05,313
hundreds of thousands of people

8267
04:26:05,313 --> 04:26:07,810
around the country. They

8268
04:26:07,810 --> 04:26:09,250
objected to the fact that it

8269
04:26:09,250 --> 04:26:12,860
became how teachers and schools

8270
04:26:12,860 --> 04:26:14,322
were evaluated. It would be

8271
04:26:14,322 --> 04:26:17,322
difficult to have children opt

8272
04:26:18,226 --> 04:26:20,610
out of ai because it will be

8273
04:26:20,610 --> 04:26:21,795
ubiquitous. Unfortunately, our

8274
04:26:21,795 --> 04:26:23,997
teachers and students will be

8275
04:26:23,997 --> 04:26:26,534
training the ai programs you

8276
04:26:26,534 --> 04:26:27,735
purchase. There will be some

8277
04:26:27,735 --> 04:26:30,104
teachers who will quickly adapt

8278
04:26:30,104 --> 04:26:31,305
and use ai for lesson plans,

8279
04:26:31,305 --> 04:26:33,742
but we should start with those

8280
04:26:33,742 --> 04:26:35,176
who want to use it. It was

8281
04:26:35,176 --> 04:26:37,311
mentioned that trainings would

8282
04:26:37,311 --> 04:26:39,113
be within the PLCs, which are

8283
04:26:39,113 --> 04:26:41,513
where a professional learning

8284
04:26:42,350 --> 04:26:44,750
community determines goals by

8285
04:26:44,886 --> 04:26:47,286
consensus. Supposedly of the

8286
04:26:48,123 --> 04:26:49,957
plc members. As per the btu

8287
04:26:49,957 --> 04:26:51,426
contract. In other words,

8288
04:26:51,426 --> 04:26:53,862
that's not where you should do

8289
04:26:53,862 --> 04:26:56,300
training. They won't all choose

8290
04:26:56,300 --> 04:26:56,998
ai. I believe for early

8291
04:26:56,998 --> 04:26:59,398
elementary there should be

8292
04:26:59,668 --> 04:27:02,170
little or no wasted time wasted

8293
04:27:02,170 --> 04:27:04,638
on non state mandated programs

8294
04:27:04,638 --> 04:27:06,808
on screens by third grade. Most

8295
04:27:06,808 --> 04:27:08,476
students should have the manual

8296
04:27:08,476 --> 04:27:10,412
dexterity to begin using typing

8297
04:27:10,412 --> 04:27:12,812
and word processing skills.

8298
04:27:12,981 --> 04:27:15,484
This is presently not occurring.

8299
04:27:15,484 --> 04:27:17,953
I heard earlier it was. It is

8300
04:27:17,953 --> 04:27:20,880
not. I have not seen a typing

8301
04:27:20,880 --> 04:27:22,324
or a simple word processing

8302
04:27:22,324 --> 04:27:23,825
program come over for a

8303
04:27:23,825 --> 04:27:25,927
purchase at any of your

8304
04:27:25,927 --> 04:27:28,960
meetings. Why is that taking so

8305
04:27:28,960 --> 04:27:29,498
long? I don't believe it's

8306
04:27:29,498 --> 04:27:31,299
possible to manage teaching a

8307
04:27:31,299 --> 04:27:33,302
class with some parents opting

8308
04:27:33,302 --> 04:27:35,604
out of ai lessons or certain

8309
04:27:35,604 --> 04:27:37,406
other technologies. I was very

8310
04:27:37,406 --> 04:27:38,907
unhappy with the lack of clear

8311
04:27:38,907 --> 04:27:40,175
timeline within the

8312
04:27:40,175 --> 04:27:41,777
presentation. I believe a group

8313
04:27:41,777 --> 04:27:43,946
of teachers who are presently

8314
04:27:43,946 --> 04:27:46,848
in the classroom should be paid

8315
04:27:46,848 --> 04:27:48,984
well during this JULY to

8316
04:27:48,984 --> 04:27:51,860
develop lesson plans for using

8317
04:27:51,860 --> 04:27:53,322
ai for students in grades four

8318
04:27:53,322 --> 04:27:55,722
through fifth, sixth, and

8319
04:27:56,125 --> 04:27:58,525
eighth, and specific examples

8320
04:27:59,280 --> 04:28:01,195
from high school classes I. And

8321
04:28:01,195 --> 04:28:04,499
I really mean pay the teachers

8322
04:28:04,499 --> 04:28:06,201
well for what they do. I also

8323
04:28:06,201 --> 04:28:08,601
am concerned about the

8324
04:28:08,770 --> 04:28:10,205
resources being equitably

8325
04:28:10,205 --> 04:28:11,940
distributed. When I heard the

8326
04:28:11,940 --> 04:28:14,143
presentation. It appears that

8327
04:28:14,143 --> 04:28:17,743
Nova schools will get much more

8328
04:28:20,316 --> 04:28:21,716
than other schools. Thank you.

8329
04:28:21,716 --> 04:28:23,716
>> Good afternoon, Rochelle

8330
04:28:23,986 --> 04:28:25,354
Sofer, Coconut Creek. So I want

8331
04:28:25,354 --> 04:28:28,224
to put out a disclaimer. I am

8332
04:28:28,224 --> 04:28:31,824
not against ai at all. I

8333
04:28:32,194 --> 04:28:34,296
embrace it with caution. I have

8334
04:28:34,296 --> 04:28:35,564
specific questions based on the

8335
04:28:35,564 --> 04:28:37,299
slides that I read through, and

8336
04:28:37,299 --> 04:28:38,300
I'm going to present them. So

8337
04:28:38,300 --> 04:28:39,535
that way our representatives

8338
04:28:39,535 --> 04:28:41,436
that are here can maybe address

8339
04:28:41,436 --> 04:28:43,873
it in the future. So we'll go

8340
04:28:43,873 --> 04:28:45,440
by their. Slide seven. I'd like

8341
04:28:45,440 --> 04:28:48,440
to know what is the school

8342
04:28:48,440 --> 04:28:49,445
board's definition of ethical

8343
04:28:49,445 --> 04:28:51,948
implementation and where can we

8344
04:28:51,948 --> 04:28:54,149
find it? What are the current

8345
04:28:54,149 --> 04:28:56,252
and expected safeguards? Where

8346
04:28:56,252 --> 04:28:58,200
are they published for view,

8347
04:28:58,200 --> 04:29:01,620
and are these viewable in the

8348
04:29:03,493 --> 04:29:05,628
multiple languages? Slide eight.

8349
04:29:05,628 --> 04:29:08,164
Please define screen heavy as

8350
04:29:08,164 --> 04:29:09,298
it relates to students. What

8351
04:29:09,298 --> 04:29:12,468
length of time would that be

8352
04:29:12,468 --> 04:29:13,736
and by whose definition? As a

8353
04:29:13,736 --> 04:29:15,905
parent, with a child with a

8354
04:29:15,905 --> 04:29:17,905
learning disability, speaking

8355
04:29:20,376 --> 04:29:22,311
on my own screen, time is a

8356
04:29:22,311 --> 04:29:24,347
deficit to my child. So I need

8357
04:29:24,347 --> 04:29:26,115
to know what screen heavy is

8358
04:29:26,115 --> 04:29:29,850
because five minutes to my

8359
04:29:29,850 --> 04:29:30,486
child could be a lifetime in an

8360
04:29:30,486 --> 04:29:31,654
eternity, and try to take my

8361
04:29:31,654 --> 04:29:33,423
child away from that screen.

8362
04:29:33,423 --> 04:29:34,791
You could have issues, and I

8363
04:29:34,791 --> 04:29:38,391
know my child's not the only

8364
04:29:39,161 --> 04:29:40,597
one. Slide 22. How will we

8365
04:29:40,597 --> 04:29:42,365
ensure minimal deviation from

8366
04:29:42,365 --> 04:29:44,534
the ai platform as it's being

8367
04:29:44,534 --> 04:29:46,934
used, especially with expected

8368
04:29:47,403 --> 04:29:48,604
increases in class sizes? What

8369
04:29:48,604 --> 04:29:51,400
measures will be implemented to

8370
04:29:51,400 --> 04:29:53,242
alert teachers or staff to the

8371
04:29:53,242 --> 04:29:54,644
unexpected tech use other than

8372
04:29:54,644 --> 04:29:56,379
Live Wire, which has its own

8373
04:29:56,379 --> 04:29:57,146
issues? What about

8374
04:29:57,146 --> 04:29:57,847
considerations for

8375
04:29:57,847 --> 04:29:58,982
implementation with our

8376
04:29:58,982 --> 04:30:00,417
students with disabilities

8377
04:30:00,417 --> 04:30:02,551
population, especially in the

8378
04:30:02,551 --> 04:30:04,551
self-contained classes? How

8379
04:30:05,454 --> 04:30:06,589
will slide 23 how will be cps

8380
04:30:06,589 --> 04:30:08,989
address parental concerns for

8381
04:30:09,392 --> 04:30:12,392
those who want decreased or

8382
04:30:14,498 --> 04:30:16,967
zero screen time? Slide 24. How

8383
04:30:16,967 --> 04:30:18,435
will student data be kept safe?

8384
04:30:18,435 --> 04:30:20,637
Where's all the I-ready data

8385
04:30:20,637 --> 04:30:22,305
stored and who has access to it?

8386
04:30:22,305 --> 04:30:23,706
Has anyone heard or seen of

8387
04:30:23,706 --> 04:30:25,542
scrolling to death.Com the

8388
04:30:25,542 --> 04:30:27,877
lawsuit lawsuit that's ensuing

8389
04:30:27,877 --> 04:30:29,146
as a result of that? What about

8390
04:30:29,146 --> 04:30:30,213
the new lawsuit launched

8391
04:30:30,213 --> 04:30:31,748
against the parent company,

8392
04:30:31,748 --> 04:30:33,249
Curriculum Associates? We need

8393
04:30:33,249 --> 04:30:35,285
to ensure our students safety

8394
04:30:35,285 --> 04:30:37,685
and security, especially their

8395
04:30:39,256 --> 04:30:41,458
voices being captured. Slide 27.

8396
04:30:41,458 --> 04:30:42,459
Where's the cps Ethical

8397
04:30:42,459 --> 04:30:43,660
Implementation guide? We'd like

8398
04:30:43,660 --> 04:30:45,950
to see it in all of its

8399
04:30:45,950 --> 04:30:47,495
languages, please. What about

8400
04:30:47,530 --> 04:30:48,665
parent student community

8401
04:30:48,665 --> 04:30:50,434
feedback that needs to be

8402
04:30:50,434 --> 04:30:52,201
evaluated on a continuum and

8403
04:30:52,201 --> 04:30:54,371
not at the convenience of this

8404
04:30:54,371 --> 04:30:55,606
district? I'd like to quote one

8405
04:30:55,606 --> 04:30:57,640
of my teacher friends who's in

8406
04:30:57,640 --> 04:30:58,742
the elementary schools. It's

8407
04:30:58,742 --> 04:31:00,243
interesting to me that the

8408
04:31:00,243 --> 04:31:02,120
district wants to use ai, but

8409
04:31:02,120 --> 04:31:03,714
they don't want us to use

8410
04:31:03,714 --> 04:31:04,848
anything from teachers pay

8411
04:31:04,848 --> 04:31:05,782
teachers. We have to use

8412
04:31:05,782 --> 04:31:07,250
everything that's approved by

8413
04:31:07,250 --> 04:31:08,752
the school board. But we all

8414
04:31:08,752 --> 04:31:11,321
know that ai makes mistakes.

8415
04:31:11,321 --> 04:31:12,423
How is it better or different?

8416
04:31:12,423 --> 04:31:14,910
Last quote. This is from a

8417
04:31:14,910 --> 04:31:15,225
friend of mine who's got her

8418
04:31:15,225 --> 04:31:18,529
Phd and teaches at a local

8419
04:31:18,529 --> 04:31:19,729
university. The faculty at my

8420
04:31:19,729 --> 04:31:21,632
college don't actually want to

8421
04:31:21,632 --> 04:31:22,799
learn all the good ways they

8422
04:31:22,799 --> 04:31:24,801
could use ai. They want to use

8423
04:31:24,801 --> 04:31:25,802
ai as a shortcut, and they are

8424
04:31:25,802 --> 04:31:26,903
putting out some pretty

8425
04:31:26,903 --> 04:31:28,237
terrible quality presentations,

8426
04:31:28,237 --> 04:31:30,374
images, etc. That are very

8427
04:31:30,374 --> 04:31:32,909
obviously ai generated and the

8428
04:31:32,909 --> 04:31:35,379
students are on to it.

8429
04:31:35,379 --> 04:31:36,479
>> Thank you. Next up, I have

8430
04:31:36,479 --> 04:31:37,915
Jennifer Durbin and then Doctor

8431
04:31:37,915 --> 04:31:40,315
Natalie Lynch Walsh, Doctor

8432
04:31:43,540 --> 04:31:44,421
Nancy Romance, and Donna Maggio.

8433
04:31:44,421 --> 04:31:46,230
>> Hello. My name is Jennifer

8434
04:31:46,230 --> 04:31:47,825
Durbin. I'm from Coral Springs.

8435
04:31:47,825 --> 04:31:50,895
I'm a parent of a second grader

8436
04:31:50,895 --> 04:31:52,296
and I'm here to oppose the ai

8437
04:31:52,296 --> 04:31:53,563
initiative. We are stepping on

8438
04:31:53,563 --> 04:31:55,599
to a dangerous frontier without

8439
04:31:55,599 --> 04:31:57,330
a map in. Our students will pay

8440
04:31:57,330 --> 04:31:59,202
the price. I'm not afraid of

8441
04:31:59,202 --> 04:32:00,671
technology or ai. I value

8442
04:32:00,671 --> 04:32:02,671
thoughtful, intentional digital

8443
04:32:02,806 --> 04:32:04,975
tools. But while technology

8444
04:32:04,975 --> 04:32:07,111
evolves rapidly, human biology

8445
04:32:07,111 --> 04:32:09,112
does not. Children have

8446
04:32:09,112 --> 04:32:10,381
critical developmental windows

8447
04:32:10,381 --> 04:32:12,381
for acquiring foundational

8448
04:32:13,250 --> 04:32:15,190
skills by displacing vetted

8449
04:32:15,190 --> 04:32:16,870
curricula with automated

8450
04:32:16,870 --> 04:32:17,888
content, we are treating our

8451
04:32:17,888 --> 04:32:19,690
students as test subjects in an

8452
04:32:19,690 --> 04:32:21,893
unregulated experiment with no

8453
04:32:21,893 --> 04:32:23,327
irb. When parents raise safety

8454
04:32:23,327 --> 04:32:24,529
concerns, district staff

8455
04:32:24,529 --> 04:32:26,197
advised us that if our children

8456
04:32:26,197 --> 04:32:28,398
are harmed, we can simply sue

8457
04:32:28,398 --> 04:32:29,599
the vendor to suggest that our

8458
04:32:29,599 --> 04:32:31,536
only recourse is to wait for

8459
04:32:31,536 --> 04:32:32,970
our children's physical, mental

8460
04:32:32,970 --> 04:32:35,206
well-being and privacy to be

8461
04:32:35,206 --> 04:32:36,941
compromised before acting is

8462
04:32:36,941 --> 04:32:37,708
irresponsible. What is the

8463
04:32:37,708 --> 04:32:39,577
responsibility of the

8464
04:32:39,577 --> 04:32:42,790
leadership in this room to keep

8465
04:32:42,790 --> 04:32:43,247
our kids safe? If cps were

8466
04:32:43,247 --> 04:32:44,549
truly equipped to evaluate

8467
04:32:44,549 --> 04:32:46,949
these algorithms, you wouldn't

8468
04:32:47,418 --> 04:32:48,886
just look at basic accuracy. Bk

8469
04:32:48,886 --> 04:32:50,621
would be analyzing and

8470
04:32:50,621 --> 04:32:52,824
publishing date on precision

8471
04:32:52,824 --> 04:32:53,958
recall f1 score area under the

8472
04:32:53,958 --> 04:32:55,193
receiver operating

8473
04:32:55,193 --> 04:32:56,727
characteristic curve metrics,

8474
04:32:56,727 --> 04:32:58,596
as well as clear guidelines on

8475
04:32:58,596 --> 04:32:59,664
false negatives. To date,

8476
04:32:59,664 --> 04:33:01,466
Broward County Public Schools

8477
04:33:01,466 --> 04:33:02,834
has failed to establish a

8478
04:33:02,834 --> 04:33:04,702
transparent implementation plan.

8479
04:33:04,702 --> 04:33:07,102
Define what ethical and

8480
04:33:07,272 --> 04:33:08,973
responsible ai means to for our

8481
04:33:08,973 --> 04:33:11,176
community, or provide a pilot

8482
04:33:11,176 --> 04:33:12,677
study report proving the

8483
04:33:12,677 --> 04:33:14,445
efficacy and safety of Magic

8484
04:33:14,445 --> 04:33:16,580
School, ai and copilot. At

8485
04:33:16,580 --> 04:33:17,282
least one of these ai tools has

8486
04:33:17,282 --> 04:33:19,117
previously failed the

8487
04:33:19,117 --> 04:33:21,386
district's tests. How has it

8488
04:33:21,386 --> 04:33:23,788
now passed? What metrics were

8489
04:33:23,788 --> 04:33:26,290
used to assess safety, security,

8490
04:33:26,290 --> 04:33:28,158
and moderation? Moving forward

8491
04:33:28,158 --> 04:33:30,662
blindly is an unacceptable risk.

8492
04:33:30,662 --> 04:33:32,290
This is especially true given

8493
04:33:32,290 --> 04:33:34,429
the ongoing Florida lawsuit

8494
04:33:34,532 --> 04:33:36,734
against Openai, the engine

8495
04:33:36,734 --> 04:33:38,403
behind Magic School ai, which

8496
04:33:38,403 --> 04:33:40,338
alleges severe psychological

8497
04:33:40,338 --> 04:33:41,473
and developmental harm to youth,

8498
04:33:41,473 --> 04:33:43,575
including the erosion of

8499
04:33:43,575 --> 04:33:44,943
critical thinking and the

8500
04:33:44,943 --> 04:33:46,844
generation and generation of

8501
04:33:46,844 --> 04:33:48,613
dangerous content. What risk

8502
04:33:48,613 --> 04:33:50,140
are our teachers taking by

8503
04:33:50,140 --> 04:33:51,716
using these programs that could

8504
04:33:51,716 --> 04:33:53,685
see them fined or jailed? If

8505
04:33:53,685 --> 04:33:55,685
the algorithm behaves

8506
04:33:56,188 --> 04:33:57,622
unexpectedly and it will behave

8507
04:33:57,622 --> 04:33:59,900
unexpectedly? As parents, we

8508
04:33:59,900 --> 04:34:00,925
have to demand accountability

8509
04:34:00,925 --> 04:34:02,294
from the district and the board

8510
04:34:02,294 --> 04:34:04,463
by funneling resources away

8511
04:34:04,463 --> 04:34:05,897
from proven educational

8512
04:34:05,897 --> 04:34:07,732
pedagogy into unsafe

8513
04:34:07,732 --> 04:34:09,501
experimental programs. You are

8514
04:34:09,501 --> 04:34:11,236
privatizing our children's

8515
04:34:11,236 --> 04:34:13,104
education and enriching a few.

8516
04:34:13,104 --> 04:34:15,240
What accountability will this

8517
04:34:15,240 --> 04:34:17,375
board take when this experiment

8518
04:34:17,375 --> 04:34:18,810
harms the very children you are

8519
04:34:18,810 --> 04:34:20,112
responsible for? Serving our

8520
04:34:20,112 --> 04:34:22,447
board to halt the rollout of

8521
04:34:22,447 --> 04:34:23,681
these ai tools until a rigorous,

8522
04:34:23,681 --> 04:34:25,170
transparent, data backed safety

8523
04:34:25,170 --> 04:34:27,417
and efficacy framework is

8524
04:34:31,389 --> 04:34:33,225
delivered to parents. Thank you.

8525
04:34:33,225 --> 04:34:35,625
>> Doctor. Natalie Lynch Walsh

8526
04:34:37,362 --> 04:34:39,731
Plantation, Florida. So unlike

8527
04:34:39,731 --> 04:34:42,634
a lot of the other speakers, I

8528
04:34:42,634 --> 04:34:43,669
love ai for adults. That's

8529
04:34:43,669 --> 04:34:46,571
where this should have started.

8530
04:34:46,571 --> 04:34:48,390
Not with the kids. I would love

8531
04:34:48,390 --> 04:34:50,175
public records that function to

8532
04:34:50,175 --> 04:34:52,378
be automated. I would love

8533
04:34:52,378 --> 04:34:53,378
follow up logs to be generated

8534
04:34:53,378 --> 04:34:54,947
automatically from the

8535
04:34:54,947 --> 04:34:56,281
recordings of these meetings.

8536
04:34:56,281 --> 04:34:57,749
Imagine how much time and how

8537
04:34:57,749 --> 04:34:59,852
much more efficient you could

8538
04:34:59,852 --> 04:35:01,386
be as a governing body. Oh, and

8539
04:35:01,386 --> 04:35:03,455
by the way, I always have plan

8540
04:35:03,455 --> 04:35:05,790
b and c in my back pocket.

8541
04:35:05,790 --> 04:35:07,826
Don't you worry because there's

8542
04:35:07,826 --> 04:35:09,560
a policy involved here, and it

8543
04:35:09,560 --> 04:35:12,560
hasn't even been advertised to

8544
04:35:13,999 --> 04:35:16,135
initiate rulemaking. So, and

8545
04:35:16,135 --> 04:35:17,869
there was a comment about

8546
04:35:17,869 --> 04:35:18,937
complaints. Some people's

8547
04:35:18,937 --> 04:35:20,720
complaints are simply

8548
04:35:20,720 --> 04:35:21,474
continuous improvement. You

8549
04:35:21,474 --> 04:35:22,942
don't get continuous

8550
04:35:22,942 --> 04:35:23,975
improvement by going along with

8551
04:35:23,975 --> 04:35:26,375
everything. And everything is

8552
04:35:26,545 --> 04:35:30,145
lovely in the garden. All right.

8553
04:35:30,749 --> 04:35:32,318
So when I had to get my Phd, I

8554
04:35:32,318 --> 04:35:34,453
studied adults and I had to do

8555
04:35:34,453 --> 04:35:36,853
a 90 page institutional review

8556
04:35:37,323 --> 04:35:39,592
board application. There was no

8557
04:35:39,592 --> 04:35:42,592
mention in the presentation of

8558
04:35:43,396 --> 04:35:45,264
school board policy 6313, which

8559
04:35:45,264 --> 04:35:46,666
after hearing a lot of parent

8560
04:35:46,666 --> 04:35:47,899
concerns, I said, well, why do

8561
04:35:47,899 --> 04:35:49,669
they need that data? What are

8562
04:35:49,669 --> 04:35:50,602
they doing with it? And where

8563
04:35:50,602 --> 04:35:51,971
is

8564
04:35:51,971 --> 04:35:53,139
>> The irb and all of this

8565
04:35:53,139 --> 04:35:56,608
because I know the district has

8566
04:35:56,608 --> 04:35:58,810
one, right? Yes they do. It's

8567
04:35:58,810 --> 04:36:00,947
6313 is research and program

8568
04:36:00,947 --> 04:36:03,249
evaluation studies. So just for

8569
04:36:03,249 --> 04:36:05,951
fun in here and I hope somebody

8570
04:36:05,951 --> 04:36:08,870
pulled it up by now we have

8571
04:36:08,870 --> 04:36:09,922
definitions. It defines

8572
04:36:09,922 --> 04:36:11,323
research studies program

8573
04:36:11,323 --> 04:36:12,725
evaluation studies. The

8574
04:36:12,725 --> 04:36:14,725
institutional review board,

8575
04:36:16,620 --> 04:36:18,231
informed consent. If a if

8576
04:36:18,231 --> 04:36:20,699
someone is under 18 you cannot

8577
04:36:20,699 --> 04:36:23,699
conduct studies on them without

8578
04:36:25,404 --> 04:36:28,274
informed consent. So I had ai

8579
04:36:28,274 --> 04:36:29,709
prompt number one policy 6313

8580
04:36:29,709 --> 04:36:30,877
governs research and program

8581
04:36:30,877 --> 04:36:32,579
evaluation studies. What

8582
04:36:32,579 --> 04:36:34,460
potential policy. 6313

8583
04:36:34,460 --> 04:36:36,216
compliance risks and audit risk

8584
04:36:36,216 --> 04:36:38,170
issues are associated with the

8585
04:36:38,170 --> 04:36:40,285
Broward powered by ai

8586
04:36:40,285 --> 04:36:41,621
presentation. A few, but you

8587
04:36:41,621 --> 04:36:43,389
guys aren't interested when I

8588
04:36:43,389 --> 04:36:44,523
try to stop you from getting in

8589
04:36:44,523 --> 04:36:46,392
trouble. So I'll just give this

8590
04:36:46,392 --> 04:36:48,461
to the people. But I have at

8591
04:36:48,461 --> 04:36:50,263
least 3 to 6 of them here. Next

8592
04:36:50,263 --> 04:36:52,432
prompt. They tried to tell me

8593
04:36:52,432 --> 04:36:53,867
there was a plan. I told Gemini,

8594
04:36:53,867 --> 04:36:56,267
try again. Because sometimes

8595
04:36:56,402 --> 04:36:58,271
they do get it wrong, and ai

8596
04:36:58,271 --> 04:37:00,373
and Gemini had to admit there

8597
04:37:00,373 --> 04:37:01,775
are no specific target dates,

8598
04:37:01,775 --> 04:37:03,576
deadlines, or future scheduling

8599
04:37:03,576 --> 04:37:04,578
timelines listed for the plan's

8600
04:37:04,578 --> 04:37:06,978
milestones. Guess what? It's

8601
04:37:09,810 --> 04:37:11,851
not a plan. Then I had it check.

8602
04:37:11,851 --> 04:37:14,251
I compared 6313 against the

8603
04:37:14,387 --> 04:37:16,189
proposed ai policy. Oof, a

8604
04:37:16,189 --> 04:37:18,589
whole lot of potential

8605
04:37:18,692 --> 04:37:21,920
compliance risks bypassing irb

8606
04:37:21,228 --> 04:37:22,629
review, verification of

8607
04:37:22,629 --> 04:37:24,430
auditability, failure to file

8608
04:37:24,430 --> 04:37:25,866
mandatory final evaluation

8609
04:37:25,866 --> 04:37:27,300
reports, and that whole

8610
04:37:27,300 --> 04:37:28,835
informed consent thing. And

8611
04:37:28,835 --> 04:37:31,638
then just for fun, I came up

8612
04:37:31,638 --> 04:37:33,730
with an audit plan and a risk

8613
04:37:33,730 --> 04:37:34,875
assessment. And that's how I

8614
04:37:34,875 --> 04:37:35,942
use ai. I don't think you'll

8615
04:37:35,942 --> 04:37:38,942
appreciate it, but the public

8616
04:37:40,246 --> 04:37:41,480
will. Thank you.

8617
04:37:41,480 --> 04:37:43,116
>> Thank you. I called up

8618
04:37:43,116 --> 04:37:45,484
Doctor Nancy Romance Donna

8619
04:37:45,484 --> 04:37:48,484
Maggio and then Lori Solarolo

8620
04:37:59,765 --> 04:38:01,168
and Jackie Luscomb.

8621
04:38:01,168 --> 04:38:02,636
>> Good afternoon. I'm Doctor

8622
04:38:02,636 --> 04:38:04,738
Nancy Romance from Florida

8623
04:38:04,738 --> 04:38:06,500
Atlantic University, a former

8624
04:38:06,500 --> 04:38:07,708
teacher and science supervisor

8625
04:38:07,708 --> 04:38:10,544
in Broward County schools. And

8626
04:38:10,544 --> 04:38:12,779
I'm here today to talk about

8627
04:38:12,779 --> 04:38:14,448
the Nova Innovation Zone and

8628
04:38:14,448 --> 04:38:15,716
what the universities are doing.

8629
04:38:15,716 --> 04:38:19,316
Doctor Cohen, is it possible to

8630
04:38:33,634 --> 04:38:36,503
get these slides up there?

8631
04:38:36,503 --> 04:38:39,503
>> I think it's slide 31. If

8632
04:38:41,475 --> 04:38:42,743
it's the Nova complex.

8633
04:38:42,743 --> 04:38:44,512
>> I don't know that we're able

8634
04:38:44,512 --> 04:38:48,112
to get the presentation back up.

8635
04:38:49,483 --> 04:38:51,483
But.

8636
04:38:52,285 --> 04:38:53,254
>> Slide 31. So they MAY not be

8637
04:38:53,254 --> 04:38:55,256
able to pull it.

8638
04:38:55,256 --> 04:38:56,357
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Well I won't

8639
04:38:56,357 --> 04:38:57,524
be able to actually see where

8640
04:38:57,524 --> 04:38:59,259
you're at, but that's okay.

8641
04:38:59,259 --> 04:39:00,928
It's, it's fine with me. So

8642
04:39:00,928 --> 04:39:02,330
thank you for giving me this

8643
04:39:02,330 --> 04:39:03,563
opportunity to meet and talk

8644
04:39:03,563 --> 04:39:05,799
with you in the district. I'm

8645
04:39:05,799 --> 04:39:06,833
very, very excited. Obviously,

8646
04:39:06,833 --> 04:39:09,200
the district is near and dear

8647
04:39:09,200 --> 04:39:10,338
to my heart. And as an educator

8648
04:39:10,338 --> 04:39:11,706
at Florida Atlantic University,

8649
04:39:11,706 --> 04:39:13,507
for the last 30 years, we've

8650
04:39:13,507 --> 04:39:15,309
been obviously very closely

8651
04:39:15,309 --> 04:39:17,780
engaged with the school

8652
04:39:17,780 --> 04:39:19,780
district. Our newest

8653
04:39:19,980 --> 04:39:21,449
publication, fau, Your Hometown

8654
04:39:21,449 --> 04:39:22,917
University, with our new

8655
04:39:22,917 --> 04:39:24,684
PRESIDENT, Adam Hasner, has

8656
04:39:24,684 --> 04:39:26,454
really done a great job in

8657
04:39:26,454 --> 04:39:29,390
moving forward in, you know,

8658
04:39:29,390 --> 04:39:30,424
bringing fau to the South

8659
04:39:30,424 --> 04:39:32,293
Florida, especially the Broward

8660
04:39:32,293 --> 04:39:33,727
County area. And I just wanted

8661
04:39:33,727 --> 04:39:35,829
to share some stats with you

8662
04:39:35,829 --> 04:39:38,229
because at Florida Atlantic

8663
04:39:39,467 --> 04:39:41,867
University, we have over 32,000

8664
04:39:41,936 --> 04:39:43,936
students, all 32,000 students

8665
04:39:44,505 --> 04:39:46,274
are involved in learning using

8666
04:39:46,274 --> 04:39:48,142
artificial intelligence. It is

8667
04:39:48,142 --> 04:39:50,979
now embedded in all of the

8668
04:39:50,979 --> 04:39:52,947
colleges as a really important

8669
04:39:52,947 --> 04:39:54,916
tool for learning. And indeed,

8670
04:39:54,916 --> 04:39:57,819
it does deepen learning and

8671
04:39:57,819 --> 04:40:00,219
problem solving. In particular,

8672
04:40:01,220 --> 04:40:02,857
we are a Carnegie University

8673
04:40:02,857 --> 04:40:05,857
designee now, meaning that we

8674
04:40:06,427 --> 04:40:07,495
have been declared as a

8675
04:40:07,495 --> 04:40:09,664
Carnegie one, meaning high

8676
04:40:09,664 --> 04:40:11,232
level research that would

8677
04:40:11,232 --> 04:40:13,340
suggest that all of our faculty

8678
04:40:13,340 --> 04:40:14,202
are using pretty much ai for

8679
04:40:14,202 --> 04:40:16,170
the kind of research that

8680
04:40:16,170 --> 04:40:18,673
they're doing. We're also a

8681
04:40:18,673 --> 04:40:20,508
Carnegie Opportunity University,

8682
04:40:20,508 --> 04:40:22,420
another really nice designation,

8683
04:40:22,420 --> 04:40:23,745
which means that students that

8684
04:40:23,745 --> 04:40:25,513
are coming from low income

8685
04:40:25,513 --> 04:40:26,581
schools are low income

8686
04:40:26,581 --> 04:40:28,581
neighborhoods, are doing

8687
04:40:28,783 --> 04:40:30,518
equally well at the university,

8688
04:40:30,518 --> 04:40:32,387
graduating on time. So we're

8689
04:40:32,387 --> 04:40:35,289
very, very excited about that.

8690
04:40:35,289 --> 04:40:36,324
We also have a third Carnegie

8691
04:40:36,324 --> 04:40:38,193
evaluation, which is called

8692
04:40:38,193 --> 04:40:40,261
Carnegie Community. And we are

8693
04:40:40,261 --> 04:40:41,663
one of 13 universities in the

8694
04:40:41,663 --> 04:40:44,265
United States that have all

8695
04:40:44,265 --> 04:40:45,800
three Carnegie classifications.

8696
04:40:45,800 --> 04:40:47,168
So we're very, very excited.

8697
04:40:47,168 --> 04:40:49,400
The other thing I was going to

8698
04:40:49,400 --> 04:40:50,272
share, the slides were shown, I

8699
04:40:50,272 --> 04:40:52,730
don't know if you see them, but

8700
04:40:52,730 --> 04:40:54,900
one of the things we're very

8701
04:40:54,900 --> 04:40:55,109
proud of is that we are really

8702
04:40:55,109 --> 04:40:57,212
a university, very centered on

8703
04:40:57,212 --> 04:40:59,140
first generation students. This

8704
04:40:59,140 --> 04:41:00,282
is really important to us. So

8705
04:41:00,282 --> 04:41:02,250
I'll just read some of the

8706
04:41:02,250 --> 04:41:04,786
things we have. So for example,

8707
04:41:04,786 --> 04:41:07,255
we have a wonderful facilities

8708
04:41:07,255 --> 04:41:09,424
to really support academic

8709
04:41:09,424 --> 04:41:10,859
success and career based

8710
04:41:10,859 --> 04:41:12,661
readiness. So we are very

8711
04:41:12,661 --> 04:41:13,895
career oriented here. We have

8712
04:41:13,895 --> 04:41:15,530
the Science Learning Center,

8713
04:41:15,530 --> 04:41:16,932
the Math Learning Center, the

8714
04:41:16,932 --> 04:41:18,932
Office of Undergraduate

8715
04:41:19,167 --> 04:41:21,567
Research and Inquiry, which

8716
04:41:21,637 --> 04:41:23,438
actually invites freshmen to

8717
04:41:23,438 --> 04:41:24,405
engage in college level

8718
04:41:24,405 --> 04:41:25,908
research. What a difference

8719
04:41:25,908 --> 04:41:27,542
that makes. We have over a

8720
04:41:27,542 --> 04:41:29,243
thousand students. Our program

8721
04:41:29,243 --> 04:41:31,790
for undergraduate research has

8722
04:41:31,790 --> 04:41:33,515
been number one in the nation

8723
04:41:33,515 --> 04:41:34,949
for two years in a row. We have

8724
04:41:34,949 --> 04:41:36,451
professional English sport, we

8725
04:41:36,451 --> 04:41:38,353
have writing across the

8726
04:41:38,353 --> 04:41:39,988
curriculum. So for all students

8727
04:41:39,988 --> 04:41:41,891
that come in, we have all of

8728
04:41:41,891 --> 04:41:43,925
these academic supports. But on

8729
04:41:43,925 --> 04:41:45,427
the other side, we also have

8730
04:41:45,427 --> 04:41:47,827
sociological emotional types of

8731
04:41:47,930 --> 04:41:49,798
supports too. For example, we

8732
04:41:49,798 --> 04:41:52,267
have our first generation and

8733
04:41:52,267 --> 04:41:53,736
student success office. We have

8734
04:41:53,736 --> 04:41:56,170
our first gen resources. We

8735
04:41:56,170 --> 04:41:57,673
have the Kelly School Emerging

8736
04:41:57,673 --> 04:41:59,808
scholarship, and we have new

8737
04:41:59,808 --> 04:42:01,643
student transition. We have

8738
04:42:01,643 --> 04:42:03,440
lots of Pell eligibility,

8739
04:42:03,440 --> 04:42:06,440
campus food. Et cetera. Et

8740
04:42:06,949 --> 04:42:09,618
cetera. Now we also just will

8741
04:42:09,618 --> 04:42:11,687
be setting up Quantum Leap. We

8742
04:42:11,687 --> 04:42:14,289
will be the first university in

8743
04:42:14,289 --> 04:42:16,325
Florida with a major quantum

8744
04:42:16,325 --> 04:42:18,526
computing system, not minor in

8745
04:42:18,526 --> 04:42:20,620
setting it up. It's been a very

8746
04:42:20,620 --> 04:42:22,163
exciting endeavor. And with

8747
04:42:22,163 --> 04:42:24,100
this particular endeavor here,

8748
04:42:24,100 --> 04:42:26,200
what we're really doing is

8749
04:42:26,200 --> 04:42:29,602
we're going to be able to

8750
04:42:29,972 --> 04:42:31,406
process immense amounts of data,

8751
04:42:31,406 --> 04:42:33,108
unbelievable amounts, not even

8752
04:42:33,108 --> 04:42:35,770
necessarily defined yet. We'll

8753
04:42:35,770 --> 04:42:37,479
have many new opportunities for

8754
04:42:37,479 --> 04:42:39,381
our students coming to fau, to

8755
04:42:39,381 --> 04:42:40,716
be really working in industry

8756
04:42:40,716 --> 04:42:42,317
and to be working with

8757
04:42:42,317 --> 04:42:44,717
authentic problems and issues.

8758
04:42:45,540 --> 04:42:46,556
This is extremely important. It

8759
04:42:46,556 --> 04:42:48,240
really does support the

8760
04:42:48,240 --> 04:42:50,424
district's effort at moving

8761
04:42:50,559 --> 04:42:52,628
towards broad ai powered. We

8762
04:42:52,628 --> 04:42:53,763
have our Styles Nicholson

8763
04:42:53,763 --> 04:42:55,865
Institute in Jupiter. Some of

8764
04:42:55,865 --> 04:42:57,299
you MAY be aware of that. That

8765
04:42:57,299 --> 04:42:59,102
particular institute does

8766
04:42:59,102 --> 04:43:01,502
tremendous work in neuroscience

8767
04:43:02,380 --> 04:43:03,205
and brain sciences, including,

8768
04:43:03,205 --> 04:43:04,406
obviously, the disorders that

8769
04:43:04,406 --> 04:43:06,420
we're all familiar with, such

8770
04:43:06,420 --> 04:43:08,144
as Alzheimer's and autism and

8771
04:43:08,144 --> 04:43:09,178
so on. We were the first

8772
04:43:09,178 --> 04:43:10,613
university in the state of

8773
04:43:10,613 --> 04:43:12,782
Florida to actually have a

8774
04:43:12,782 --> 04:43:13,149
master's degree in artificial

8775
04:43:13,149 --> 04:43:13,916
intelligence.

8776
04:43:13,916 --> 04:43:15,318
>> Thank you.

8777
04:43:15,318 --> 04:43:16,752
>> So the Florida Power and

8778
04:43:16,752 --> 04:43:18,187
light.

8779
04:43:18,187 --> 04:43:21,187
>> Thank you so much, doctor.

8780
04:43:22,158 --> 04:43:24,558
Romance. Thank you. Doctor

8781
04:43:25,528 --> 04:43:27,429
romance, doctor romance. Thank

8782
04:43:27,429 --> 04:43:29,699
you so much. If you could yield

8783
04:43:29,699 --> 04:43:33,303
the mic. Thank you so much. Yes,

8784
04:43:33,303 --> 04:43:36,172
yes. Thank you. So we very much

8785
04:43:36,172 --> 04:43:37,440
enjoyed learning about

8786
04:43:37,440 --> 04:43:39,442
everything going on at fau.

8787
04:43:39,442 --> 04:43:42,311
Thank you so much. Jackie

8788
04:43:42,311 --> 04:43:44,311
Liscombe.

8789
04:43:44,481 --> 04:43:45,548
>> Thank you. And I'd like to

8790
04:43:45,548 --> 04:43:47,517
acknowledge first of all, the

8791
04:43:47,517 --> 04:43:48,718
winners are in the room and I'd

8792
04:43:48,718 --> 04:43:50,653
like to thank them as a parent

8793
04:43:50,653 --> 04:43:51,754
for their very generous gift to

8794
04:43:51,754 --> 04:43:54,290
the district. I'm excited for

8795
04:43:54,290 --> 04:43:56,590
the future of ai in Broward. I

8796
04:43:56,590 --> 04:43:57,827
do understand, though, some of

8797
04:43:57,827 --> 04:43:59,629
what's been articulated here

8798
04:43:59,629 --> 04:44:00,797
too. I want to start off with,

8799
04:44:00,797 --> 04:44:02,599
I'm going to hop all over the

8800
04:44:02,599 --> 04:44:03,666
place, but there's been some

8801
04:44:03,666 --> 04:44:04,834
statements made about how it

8802
04:44:04,834 --> 04:44:06,669
needs to start with adults and

8803
04:44:06,669 --> 04:44:07,871
not with the kids. It has

8804
04:44:07,871 --> 04:44:10,730
started with the adults and not

8805
04:44:10,730 --> 04:44:11,740
with the kids, to Lily's

8806
04:44:11,740 --> 04:44:12,275
demonstration, which I thought

8807
04:44:12,275 --> 04:44:15,844
made a very good point about

8808
04:44:15,844 --> 04:44:17,413
how ai can help walk walk

8809
04:44:17,413 --> 04:44:19,749
students through the processes

8810
04:44:19,749 --> 04:44:21,518
of learning. It wasn't, I

8811
04:44:21,518 --> 04:44:23,850
believe, Lily, that you brought

8812
04:44:23,850 --> 04:44:26,256
up a math problem and asked ai

8813
04:44:26,256 --> 04:44:28,358
to resolve it. Ai brought up a

8814
04:44:28,358 --> 04:44:30,560
track for reteaching it to you

8815
04:44:30,560 --> 04:44:31,828
to remind you, and it was not

8816
04:44:31,828 --> 04:44:33,396
an erosion of critical thinking.

8817
04:44:33,396 --> 04:44:35,965
It was leading you through the

8818
04:44:35,965 --> 04:44:37,400
steps of critical thinking. I

8819
04:44:37,400 --> 04:44:40,336
do want to commend, actually

8820
04:44:40,336 --> 04:44:42,339
the symposium. I do concur with

8821
04:44:42,339 --> 04:44:43,707
some of the views of it, that I

8822
04:44:43,707 --> 04:44:44,708
don't think parent registration

8823
04:44:44,708 --> 04:44:46,776
should have been cut off when

8824
04:44:46,776 --> 04:44:49,279
it was. It shouldn't have been

8825
04:44:49,279 --> 04:44:51,470
the afterthought. I'm grateful

8826
04:44:51,470 --> 04:44:52,215
that we were able to be there,

8827
04:44:52,215 --> 04:44:54,184
and I learned a lot, but I

8828
04:44:54,184 --> 04:44:56,200
think that there is a lot also

8829
04:44:56,200 --> 04:44:57,254
to be learned about. Where some

8830
04:44:57,254 --> 04:45:00,757
of this has gone wrong is in

8831
04:45:00,757 --> 04:45:02,225
the messaging. Anybody that

8832
04:45:02,225 --> 04:45:03,760
attends technology advisory,

8833
04:45:03,760 --> 04:45:05,796
which actually isn't, very many

8834
04:45:05,796 --> 04:45:07,597
people will know that I'm

8835
04:45:07,597 --> 04:45:09,399
actually quite noisy there, and

8836
04:45:09,399 --> 04:45:11,602
I'm noisy because I see that

8837
04:45:11,602 --> 04:45:14,602
that technology advisory is not

8838
04:45:14,804 --> 04:45:17,341
used for technologyy issues. The

8839
04:45:17,341 --> 04:45:18,876
bccc is repeatedly kif

8840
04:45:18,876 --> 04:45:21,110
bypassing tech, and I feel we

8841
04:45:21,110 --> 04:45:22,112
could have been a really good

8842
04:45:22,112 --> 04:45:24,112
collaborative partner in

8843
04:45:26,750 --> 04:45:28,252
helping to preempt some of the.

8844
04:45:28,252 --> 04:45:29,653
When I say outcry, we've we've

8845
04:45:29,653 --> 04:45:31,880
seen here, there's legitimate

8846
04:45:31,880 --> 04:45:33,224
concerns or people that have

8847
04:45:33,224 --> 04:45:36,125
concerns that can't be resolved.

8848
04:45:36,125 --> 04:45:38,195
I would like to suggest that

8849
04:45:38,195 --> 04:45:39,296
you fast track. When I say fast

8850
04:45:39,296 --> 04:45:41,631
track, you've got to follow

8851
04:45:41,631 --> 04:45:43,667
policy making process or not,

8852
04:45:43,667 --> 04:45:46,103
as the case MAY be these days.

8853
04:45:46,103 --> 04:45:48,339
But for the ai policy to be put

8854
04:45:48,339 --> 04:45:50,174
on the back burner, while

8855
04:45:50,174 --> 04:45:51,242
you're looking more at policies

8856
04:45:51,242 --> 04:45:52,643
that say, well, what's the

8857
04:45:52,643 --> 04:45:55,479
address of the case? Right.

8858
04:45:55,479 --> 04:45:57,879
Building, I think the

8859
04:45:58,115 --> 04:46:00,150
priorities are in the wrong

8860
04:46:00,150 --> 04:46:01,986
order. That ai policy is

8861
04:46:01,986 --> 04:46:03,821
crucial to the integrity of

8862
04:46:03,821 --> 04:46:05,989
this program, this initiative,

8863
04:46:05,989 --> 04:46:08,893
and to getting stakeholder buy

8864
04:46:08,893 --> 04:46:10,428
in. I think you two could have

8865
04:46:10,428 --> 04:46:13,197
preempted and still can some of

8866
04:46:13,197 --> 04:46:14,999
the community suspicion or

8867
04:46:14,999 --> 04:46:17,200
concern about it by not only

8868
04:46:17,200 --> 04:46:18,202
having a policy. I see there's

8869
04:46:18,202 --> 04:46:20,337
mention of a manual that

8870
04:46:20,337 --> 04:46:21,839
certainly I don't think came to

8871
04:46:21,839 --> 04:46:23,674
attack at all. I haven't seen a

8872
04:46:23,674 --> 04:46:25,276
manual, but. But how about some

8873
04:46:25,276 --> 04:46:27,178
kind of a contract with parents?

8874
04:46:27,178 --> 04:46:29,379
A sort of our promise to you,

8875
04:46:29,379 --> 04:46:31,883
our pledge to you, and some

8876
04:46:31,883 --> 04:46:34,118
bullet point commitments as to

8877
04:46:34,118 --> 04:46:36,518
what this implementation will

8878
04:46:37,355 --> 04:46:39,489
or won't be. I've kicked up a

8879
04:46:39,489 --> 04:46:40,858
lot of talk about what is the

8880
04:46:40,858 --> 04:46:44,495
ai task force and why aren't we

8881
04:46:44,495 --> 04:46:46,300
on it at at tac? I've had good

8882
04:46:46,300 --> 04:46:47,398
conversation with Doctor Cohen

8883
04:46:47,398 --> 04:46:48,199
and with Manny, which I

8884
04:46:48,199 --> 04:46:50,301
appreciate greatly. I think

8885
04:46:50,301 --> 04:46:52,336
they've worked hard on this. I

8886
04:46:52,336 --> 04:46:54,973
just also as well want to see a

8887
04:46:54,973 --> 04:46:56,741
lot more s integration. And for

8888
04:46:56,741 --> 04:46:58,576
them not to be the left behinds.

8889
04:46:58,576 --> 04:46:59,978
Thank you.

8890
04:46:59,978 --> 04:47:02,978
>> Thank you. Any other public

8891
04:47:06,117 --> 04:47:09,530
speakers? Okay. I don't usually

8892
04:47:09,530 --> 04:47:10,287
do this, but I would like the

8893
04:47:10,287 --> 04:47:13,240
courtesy of my colleagues to be

8894
04:47:13,240 --> 04:47:15,326
able to speak. Oh, sorry, my

8895
04:47:15,326 --> 04:47:16,795
mic turned off. I would like

8896
04:47:16,795 --> 04:47:17,996
the courtesy from my colleagues

8897
04:47:17,996 --> 04:47:19,864
to speak first on this. This is

8898
04:47:19,864 --> 04:47:21,666
something that I've spent a lot

8899
04:47:21,666 --> 04:47:23,340
of time over the last year

8900
04:47:23,340 --> 04:47:24,869
investing in, learning about

8901
04:47:24,869 --> 04:47:27,380
and hearing from students and

8902
04:47:27,380 --> 04:47:28,206
parents. So first, I want to

8903
04:47:28,206 --> 04:47:30,410
thank all the public speakers

8904
04:47:30,410 --> 04:47:31,176
who came out. We did see some

8905
04:47:31,176 --> 04:47:32,910
new faces today, which is very

8906
04:47:32,910 --> 04:47:34,145
exciting to see the community

8907
04:47:34,145 --> 04:47:37,145
so engaged on something so

8908
04:47:38,116 --> 04:47:39,918
important. Heather Velasquez, I

8909
04:47:39,918 --> 04:47:41,753
like you, continue to be

8910
04:47:41,753 --> 04:47:43,922
overwhelmed by this topic, and

8911
04:47:43,922 --> 04:47:46,324
I'm glad we've all started to

8912
04:47:46,324 --> 04:47:48,326
try to tackle this as messy as

8913
04:47:48,326 --> 04:47:51,829
it can be. I'm glad we we are

8914
04:47:51,829 --> 04:47:53,431
diving in today. I also want to

8915
04:47:53,431 --> 04:47:56,167
thank Wayne and Lucretia Weiner,

8916
04:47:56,167 --> 04:47:58,336
who are here, who continue to

8917
04:47:58,336 --> 04:48:00,736
make massive commitments and

8918
04:48:01,390 --> 04:48:03,439
investments in public education.

8919
04:48:08,446 --> 04:48:09,481
So thank you. And so the ai

8920
04:48:09,481 --> 04:48:10,982
symposium has been brought up

8921
04:48:10,982 --> 04:48:12,417
several times today. I, I had

8922
04:48:12,417 --> 04:48:14,152
the privilege of getting to

8923
04:48:14,152 --> 04:48:16,354
speak there, and I'm going to

8924
04:48:16,354 --> 04:48:18,490
echo some of my my same points

8925
04:48:18,490 --> 04:48:19,890
that I, I delivered to the

8926
04:48:19,890 --> 04:48:22,890
parents and educators in the

8927
04:48:23,895 --> 04:48:25,330
audience. I would like everyone

8928
04:48:25,330 --> 04:48:26,431
here to take a moment to

8929
04:48:26,431 --> 04:48:28,333
remember what it was like to

8930
04:48:28,333 --> 04:48:29,767
get on Facebook for the first

8931
04:48:29,767 --> 04:48:31,737
time, and to remember what we

8932
04:48:31,737 --> 04:48:33,238
were promised in the aughts

8933
04:48:33,238 --> 04:48:34,939
about what social media would

8934
04:48:34,939 --> 04:48:36,140
do for us. We were told it

8935
04:48:36,140 --> 04:48:38,609
would make us more connected

8936
04:48:38,609 --> 04:48:40,879
with each other. But 20 years

8937
04:48:40,879 --> 04:48:42,581
later, the consensus is that

8938
04:48:42,581 --> 04:48:44,749
the social media algorithms

8939
04:48:44,749 --> 04:48:46,184
have made us more disconnected,

8940
04:48:46,184 --> 04:48:48,454
isolated, and polarized than

8941
04:48:48,454 --> 04:48:50,556
ever. So much so that people

8942
04:48:50,556 --> 04:48:51,924
are winning multimillion dollar

8943
04:48:51,924 --> 04:48:53,580
lawsuits in school districts,

8944
04:48:53,580 --> 04:48:54,920
including us, are suing these

8945
04:48:54,920 --> 04:48:55,894
companies for the impacts

8946
04:48:55,894 --> 04:48:58,464
they've had on our kids mental

8947
04:48:58,464 --> 04:49:00,232
health. And, you know, as we

8948
04:49:00,232 --> 04:49:01,800
have this discussion, it is

8949
04:49:01,800 --> 04:49:04,536
imperative that we learn from

8950
04:49:04,536 --> 04:49:07,106
the mistakes of the social

8951
04:49:07,106 --> 04:49:09,942
media era. There are some of

8952
04:49:09,942 --> 04:49:12,342
the same warning signs

8953
04:49:12,845 --> 04:49:15,314
represented in hard data for ai.

8954
04:49:15,314 --> 04:49:16,782
The rise of ai companions

8955
04:49:16,782 --> 04:49:18,984
raises alarm bells. We should

8956
04:49:18,984 --> 04:49:20,719
all be taking action on the

8957
04:49:20,719 --> 04:49:22,188
impacts of cognitive offloading,

8958
04:49:22,188 --> 04:49:24,356
something we've heard concerns

8959
04:49:24,356 --> 04:49:26,224
about today, even on adults,

8960
04:49:26,224 --> 04:49:28,794
should result in us making

8961
04:49:28,794 --> 04:49:31,794
clear, strong and bold policy

8962
04:49:32,631 --> 04:49:34,800
to protect our students. We all

8963
04:49:34,800 --> 04:49:36,568
understand that ai isn't going

8964
04:49:36,568 --> 04:49:38,770
away, and that bans or

8965
04:49:38,770 --> 04:49:40,339
moratoriums won't be effective.

8966
04:49:40,339 --> 04:49:42,141
We understand that all students

8967
04:49:42,141 --> 04:49:43,442
will grow up in a world in

8968
04:49:43,442 --> 04:49:46,112
which ai is integrated into

8969
04:49:46,112 --> 04:49:47,747
every part of our society. We

8970
04:49:47,747 --> 04:49:49,282
have a responsibility to

8971
04:49:49,282 --> 04:49:51,217
prepare them for that world,

8972
04:49:51,217 --> 04:49:52,752
and we have a duty to ensure

8973
04:49:52,752 --> 04:49:55,254
that world is safe and

8974
04:49:55,254 --> 04:49:56,789
enriching as it can be. That

8975
04:49:56,789 --> 04:49:58,558
means we have to take great

8976
04:49:58,558 --> 04:49:59,992
care in the ways we introduce

8977
04:49:59,992 --> 04:50:02,195
students to this technology,

8978
04:50:02,195 --> 04:50:04,329
and that the technology we give

8979
04:50:04,329 --> 04:50:05,765
them access to serves the

8980
04:50:05,765 --> 04:50:08,165
purpose of facilitating their

8981
04:50:08,967 --> 04:50:10,769
growth into thoughtful, kind,

8982
04:50:10,769 --> 04:50:12,769
empathetic, and well-rounded

8983
04:50:13,639 --> 04:50:15,274
learners. That means that this

8984
04:50:15,274 --> 04:50:17,276
technology is introduced slowly

8985
04:50:17,276 --> 04:50:18,678
and strategically with students

8986
04:50:18,678 --> 04:50:20,678
first, simply building

8987
04:50:20,847 --> 04:50:23,416
awareness of it. They are

8988
04:50:23,416 --> 04:50:24,984
taught holistic ai literacy

8989
04:50:24,984 --> 04:50:26,786
frameworks. That means they

8990
04:50:26,786 --> 04:50:28,421
learn about how it's created,

8991
04:50:28,421 --> 04:50:30,289
what its uses are, what the

8992
04:50:30,289 --> 04:50:32,250
risks are, and they're taught

8993
04:50:32,250 --> 04:50:34,194
about ethical use and

8994
04:50:34,194 --> 04:50:35,628
development. And I cannot

8995
04:50:35,628 --> 04:50:37,930
emphasize enough the importance

8996
04:50:37,930 --> 04:50:40,466
of the actions we take now to

8997
04:50:40,466 --> 04:50:42,135
do this right. Doctor Cohen, at

8998
04:50:42,135 --> 04:50:44,169
the beginning of this, asked

8999
04:50:44,169 --> 04:50:45,238
the question, are we going to

9000
04:50:45,238 --> 04:50:47,239
prepare our students for the

9001
04:50:47,239 --> 04:50:48,575
world we grew up in or the

9002
04:50:48,575 --> 04:50:50,243
world we inherit? They will

9003
04:50:50,243 --> 04:50:51,478
inherit? And I'd like us to

9004
04:50:51,478 --> 04:50:54,347
think about it a little bit

9005
04:50:54,347 --> 04:50:56,216
differently. All of us at this

9006
04:50:56,216 --> 04:50:57,984
table and in this room have the

9007
04:50:57,984 --> 04:51:00,530
ability to shape the world our

9008
04:51:00,530 --> 04:51:01,554
kids inherit. And we can do

9009
04:51:01,554 --> 04:51:04,557
that in the days and months to

9010
04:51:04,557 --> 04:51:06,259
come. So with that said, I have

9011
04:51:06,259 --> 04:51:08,610
some questions and then I'll be

9012
04:51:08,610 --> 04:51:11,610
asking for board consensus on

9013
04:51:11,298 --> 04:51:13,330
some proposals. MADAM General

9014
04:51:13,330 --> 04:51:14,200
counsel actually just told

9015
04:51:14,200 --> 04:51:16,690
informed me of this, but I

9016
04:51:16,690 --> 04:51:17,370
would like the public to know

9017
04:51:17,370 --> 04:51:20,970
when can we expect the ai

9018
04:51:22,509 --> 04:51:23,609
policy to come back to us?

9019
04:51:23,609 --> 04:51:24,478
Either to the General Council

9020
04:51:24,478 --> 04:51:26,790
or to staff?

9021
04:51:26,790 --> 04:51:27,914
>> Go ahead, Doctor Cohn.

9022
04:51:27,914 --> 04:51:29,282
>> We're ready whenever it's

9023
04:51:29,282 --> 04:51:31,551
time. I think we initially

9024
04:51:31,551 --> 04:51:32,552
wanted to go first with the

9025
04:51:32,552 --> 04:51:33,987
policy and then we would

9026
04:51:33,987 --> 04:51:36,857
schedule I think sometime in

9027
04:51:36,857 --> 04:51:38,191
JULY. I believe.

9028
04:51:38,191 --> 04:51:39,892
>> Most likely it would be like

9029
04:51:39,892 --> 04:51:41,561
the beginning of AUGUST because

9030
04:51:41,561 --> 04:51:43,363
we only have a very short

9031
04:51:43,363 --> 04:51:44,898
amount of time in JULY. If we

9032
04:51:44,898 --> 04:51:47,340
can schedule it in JULY, we'll

9033
04:51:47,340 --> 04:51:48,735
do that. But I know that we

9034
04:51:48,735 --> 04:51:50,404
will be working very closely to

9035
04:51:50,404 --> 04:51:51,671
come up with some drafts. We'll

9036
04:51:51,671 --> 04:51:53,507
do some one on ones on those

9037
04:51:53,507 --> 04:51:54,540
drafts as well to get more

9038
04:51:54,540 --> 04:51:55,943
feedback and then present

9039
04:51:55,943 --> 04:51:57,744
something for the board's

9040
04:51:57,744 --> 04:51:59,744
consideration.

9041
04:51:59,846 --> 04:52:01,480
>> And to that end, we are

9042
04:52:01,480 --> 04:52:03,490
ready with the draft. We just

9043
04:52:03,490 --> 04:52:04,918
need to confirm, in terms of

9044
04:52:04,918 --> 04:52:06,520
the novella piece and the

9045
04:52:06,520 --> 04:52:07,688
process document. So we've

9046
04:52:07,688 --> 04:52:08,856
gathered gathered all of the

9047
04:52:08,856 --> 04:52:10,690
feedback from every stakeholder.

9048
04:52:10,690 --> 04:52:12,159
This is the last, I would say,

9049
04:52:12,159 --> 04:52:13,527
last leg of that and getting

9050
04:52:13,527 --> 04:52:15,829
feedback from you, the board,

9051
04:52:15,829 --> 04:52:17,864
before we come back in AUGUST

9052
04:52:17,864 --> 04:52:19,333
to present a final product or

9053
04:52:19,333 --> 04:52:21,333
draft of that.

9054
04:52:22,236 --> 04:52:23,637
>> Thank you. The ai task force

9055
04:52:23,637 --> 04:52:26,637
was brought up multiple times.

9056
04:52:26,874 --> 04:52:29,800
Can you talk to me, inform the

9057
04:52:29,800 --> 04:52:30,510
public about who is on the task

9058
04:52:30,510 --> 04:52:31,912
force? What have they done?

9059
04:52:31,912 --> 04:52:34,414
What have we implemented from

9060
04:52:34,414 --> 04:52:35,683
their recommendations?

9061
04:52:35,683 --> 04:52:37,551
>> I'll kick it off and then

9062
04:52:37,551 --> 04:52:39,887
I'll let Manny dive deep into

9063
04:52:39,887 --> 04:52:42,288
that. And so our attention

9064
04:52:42,288 --> 04:52:44,191
really was to that anything

9065
04:52:44,191 --> 04:52:46,260
that's large scale of a

9066
04:52:46,260 --> 04:52:47,961
district this size is going to

9067
04:52:47,961 --> 04:52:49,929
require implementation fidelity.

9068
04:52:49,929 --> 04:52:51,165
And so every school had the

9069
04:52:51,165 --> 04:52:52,399
opportunity to, every principal

9070
04:52:52,399 --> 04:52:54,702
had the opportunity to identify

9071
04:52:54,702 --> 04:52:56,404
an ai liaison. And that liaison

9072
04:52:56,404 --> 04:52:57,838
would represent each, each

9073
04:52:57,838 --> 04:53:00,700
school in terms of being able

9074
04:53:00,700 --> 04:53:01,142
to receive the training, the

9075
04:53:01,142 --> 04:53:02,843
skills, the knowledge to be

9076
04:53:02,843 --> 04:53:04,412
able to go back and implement

9077
04:53:04,412 --> 04:53:05,979
that at the school level. We've

9078
04:53:05,979 --> 04:53:07,348
done the same kind of framework.

9079
04:53:07,348 --> 04:53:09,349
When we did our instructional

9080
04:53:09,349 --> 04:53:10,918
materials adoption. That worked

9081
04:53:10,918 --> 04:53:13,120
really well. In this case, all

9082
04:53:13,120 --> 04:53:16,189
of our ai liaisons got all of

9083
04:53:16,189 --> 04:53:17,725
the training all up until this.

9084
04:53:17,725 --> 04:53:20,161
Before the teachers left. They

9085
04:53:20,161 --> 04:53:21,896
met with the principals during

9086
04:53:21,896 --> 04:53:23,464
JUNE 5th, JUNE 8th, and JUNE

9087
04:53:23,464 --> 04:53:24,866
9th to come up with an ai

9088
04:53:24,866 --> 04:53:26,300
implementation rollout plan to

9089
04:53:26,300 --> 04:53:27,768
be delivered during pre

9090
04:53:27,768 --> 04:53:28,870
Planning week that will be

9091
04:53:28,870 --> 04:53:31,606
implemented with our with all

9092
04:53:31,606 --> 04:53:34,174
of the staff in. Man. If you

9093
04:53:34,174 --> 04:53:35,609
have anything else.

9094
04:53:35,609 --> 04:53:37,411
>> As Doctor Cohen said, and

9095
04:53:37,411 --> 04:53:38,646
what really struck me as as

9096
04:53:38,646 --> 04:53:41,448
very important about the task

9097
04:53:41,448 --> 04:53:43,885
force is a. It's comprised of

9098
04:53:43,885 --> 04:53:44,986
not just a district

9099
04:53:44,986 --> 04:53:46,453
administrators. It's school

9100
04:53:46,453 --> 04:53:48,256
staff, school administrators,

9101
04:53:48,256 --> 04:53:50,256
district administrators,

9102
04:53:50,792 --> 04:53:52,159
teachers and students. And

9103
04:53:52,159 --> 04:53:53,561
initially, and this is just a

9104
04:53:53,561 --> 04:53:55,630
personal experience. When I was

9105
04:53:55,630 --> 04:53:57,298
first introduced to the task

9106
04:53:57,298 --> 04:53:58,466
force, I was very impatient. I

9107
04:53:58,466 --> 04:54:00,301
was saying, where's the policy?

9108
04:54:00,301 --> 04:54:02,337
Let's get the policy out. Come

9109
04:54:02,337 --> 04:54:05,539
on, let's move. But now looking

9110
04:54:05,539 --> 04:54:06,607
back on it, I can see the the

9111
04:54:06,607 --> 04:54:08,607
thoughtful, careful approach

9112
04:54:09,210 --> 04:54:12,210
that the group took in

9113
04:54:13,114 --> 04:54:14,248
formulating what 60 plus page

9114
04:54:14,248 --> 04:54:15,282
implementation guide, which

9115
04:54:15,282 --> 04:54:16,418
contains the core principles

9116
04:54:16,418 --> 04:54:18,385
that go into the policy. We

9117
04:54:18,385 --> 04:54:20,622
knew we couldn't take a 60 page

9118
04:54:20,622 --> 04:54:22,223
guide and just publish it as a

9119
04:54:22,223 --> 04:54:24,992
policy. So it's been condensed

9120
04:54:24,992 --> 04:54:26,294
and shared, but that's my basic

9121
04:54:26,294 --> 04:54:28,229
observations of how the task

9122
04:54:28,229 --> 04:54:29,630
force has has really helped

9123
04:54:29,630 --> 04:54:32,630
craft the work and helped

9124
04:54:33,200 --> 04:54:35,437
direct us into other research

9125
04:54:35,437 --> 04:54:37,538
opportunities to craft the

9126
04:54:37,538 --> 04:54:39,700
policy.

9127
04:54:39,700 --> 04:54:40,909
>> MR. Manning, can you go back

9128
04:54:40,909 --> 04:54:42,209
over the participants the of

9129
04:54:42,209 --> 04:54:43,978
the task force? I missed that

9130
04:54:43,978 --> 04:54:45,978
part.

9131
04:54:46,547 --> 04:54:48,416
>> School staff, district staff.

9132
04:54:48,416 --> 04:54:50,519
We have teachers. We have

9133
04:54:50,519 --> 04:54:50,919
students also and

9134
04:54:50,919 --> 04:54:52,919
administrators.

9135
04:54:53,721 --> 04:54:55,721
>> Thank you.

9136
04:54:55,724 --> 04:54:59,160
>> About how many people are on

9137
04:54:59,160 --> 04:55:01,160
the task force.

9138
04:55:01,363 --> 04:55:02,397
>> It's it's it's it's one

9139
04:55:02,397 --> 04:55:03,865
representative for every school.

9140
04:55:03,865 --> 04:55:06,501
And then there's district staff.

9141
04:55:06,501 --> 04:55:09,501
So I would probably without,

9142
04:55:09,638 --> 04:55:10,672
you know, I would say close to

9143
04:55:10,672 --> 04:55:12,672
2 to 300 people.

9144
04:55:14,709 --> 04:55:16,709
>> How many students?

9145
04:55:16,878 --> 04:55:18,580
>> I would.

9146
04:55:18,580 --> 04:55:20,482
>> I would say roughly about 20

9147
04:55:20,482 --> 04:55:22,217
students on that task force.

9148
04:55:22,217 --> 04:55:23,585
>> And how are how are the

9149
04:55:23,585 --> 04:55:25,787
these task force members

9150
04:55:25,787 --> 04:55:27,322
selected?

9151
04:55:27,322 --> 04:55:27,956
>> Well, for the schools are

9152
04:55:27,956 --> 04:55:29,956
just total.

9153
04:55:30,158 --> 04:55:31,927
>> So. So let me back up. It's

9154
04:55:31,927 --> 04:55:33,261
my understanding. So each ai

9155
04:55:33,261 --> 04:55:34,463
liaison for each school is a

9156
04:55:34,463 --> 04:55:35,530
member of the task force.

9157
04:55:35,530 --> 04:55:37,366
That's correct. How were the

9158
04:55:37,366 --> 04:55:39,334
students selected.

9159
04:55:39,334 --> 04:55:40,636
>> So I think we reached out to

9160
04:55:40,636 --> 04:55:43,806
at the time, Landon, and kind

9161
04:55:43,806 --> 04:55:45,674
of had him kind of identify

9162
04:55:45,674 --> 04:55:48,740
people that had interest.

9163
04:55:48,477 --> 04:55:50,877
>> Okay. What's the meeting

9164
04:55:50,979 --> 04:55:52,114
cadence for the task force?

9165
04:55:52,114 --> 04:55:53,148
Like, how often are they

9166
04:55:53,148 --> 04:55:54,549
meeting?

9167
04:55:54,549 --> 04:55:56,500
>> You can answer.

9168
04:55:56,500 --> 04:55:57,218
>> I remember participating in

9169
04:55:57,218 --> 04:55:58,687
monthly meetings. There was

9170
04:55:58,687 --> 04:56:00,823
also a collaboration site that

9171
04:56:00,823 --> 04:56:02,391
was set up in teams that the

9172
04:56:02,391 --> 04:56:03,359
task force had access to, and

9173
04:56:03,359 --> 04:56:04,659
there were some engagement

9174
04:56:04,659 --> 04:56:06,659
through that asynchronously,

9175
04:56:06,829 --> 04:56:09,398
but the cadence was generally

9176
04:56:09,398 --> 04:56:12,398
monthly from what I recall.

9177
04:56:13,200 --> 04:56:15,137
>> Okay. I'm going to move in a

9178
04:56:15,137 --> 04:56:16,204
little bit of a different

9179
04:56:16,204 --> 04:56:18,604
direction. Something that I've

9180
04:56:19,740 --> 04:56:22,110
heard over and over from

9181
04:56:22,110 --> 04:56:24,460
students and teachers is with,

9182
04:56:24,460 --> 04:56:27,646
with regards to ai, is this

9183
04:56:29,518 --> 04:56:31,653
issue of trust? Sometimes

9184
04:56:31,653 --> 04:56:33,455
teachers are not trusting that

9185
04:56:33,455 --> 04:56:35,625
students are turng in their

9186
04:56:35,625 --> 04:56:38,893
own work. And then students, on

9187
04:56:38,893 --> 04:56:41,430
the other hand, are sometimes

9188
04:56:41,430 --> 04:56:42,431
not trusting that teachers

9189
04:56:42,431 --> 04:56:44,233
physically are themselves

9190
04:56:44,233 --> 04:56:46,369
grading the work or creating

9191
04:56:46,369 --> 04:56:48,204
the assignments. And, you know,

9192
04:56:48,204 --> 04:56:50,806
as a teacher, I understand the

9193
04:56:50,806 --> 04:56:52,875
value in using ai to help, you

9194
04:56:52,875 --> 04:56:53,643
know, create assignments and

9195
04:56:53,643 --> 04:56:55,643
differentiate instruction and

9196
04:56:55,778 --> 04:56:58,180
all of that. But I'm wondering

9197
04:56:58,180 --> 04:57:00,820
if, if the task force or if we

9198
04:57:00,820 --> 04:57:01,850
as a district have really

9199
04:57:01,850 --> 04:57:04,190
contemplated and tried to

9200
04:57:04,190 --> 04:57:07,619
tackle the issue of trust when

9201
04:57:07,957 --> 04:57:09,125
it comes to ai.

9202
04:57:09,125 --> 04:57:11,125
>> And specifically you're

9203
04:57:11,194 --> 04:57:13,594
referring to the instructional

9204
04:57:13,763 --> 04:57:16,163
materials or materials outside

9205
04:57:16,632 --> 04:57:19,320
of the the content.

9206
04:57:19,669 --> 04:57:21,303
>> So there is a tension, right?

9207
04:57:21,303 --> 04:57:23,772
Like I heard from students,

9208
04:57:23,772 --> 04:57:25,740
like one student who I met with

9209
04:57:25,740 --> 04:57:27,109
at Fort Lauderdale High School

9210
04:57:27,109 --> 04:57:29,279
said, like, if I have a teacher

9211
04:57:29,279 --> 04:57:30,713
that is using ai to grade my

9212
04:57:30,713 --> 04:57:32,148
assignment, I am disgusted by

9213
04:57:32,148 --> 04:57:34,684
that. She used that language.

9214
04:57:34,684 --> 04:57:37,153
Right. And I understand again,

9215
04:57:37,153 --> 04:57:39,155
I am trying not to be. I'm

9216
04:57:39,155 --> 04:57:40,757
trying not to look at this as a

9217
04:57:40,757 --> 04:57:42,659
as a very polarized or black

9218
04:57:42,659 --> 04:57:44,360
and white issue. I know that

9219
04:57:44,360 --> 04:57:46,760
there is nuance and

9220
04:57:46,963 --> 04:57:49,766
complication to it, but I think

9221
04:57:49,766 --> 04:57:51,267
that we have to try to think

9222
04:57:51,267 --> 04:57:53,360
about the way we can build

9223
04:57:53,360 --> 04:57:54,437
trust between students and

9224
04:57:54,437 --> 04:57:56,171
teachers, both that teachers

9225
04:57:56,171 --> 04:57:58,400
are trusting that the work that

9226
04:57:58,400 --> 04:57:59,775
the students are doing is

9227
04:57:59,775 --> 04:58:01,310
authentic and that they did

9228
04:58:01,310 --> 04:58:02,379
their own thinking. But also,

9229
04:58:02,379 --> 04:58:04,914
on the other hand, that

9230
04:58:04,914 --> 04:58:06,683
students can feel trusting and

9231
04:58:06,683 --> 04:58:07,717
that the teachers have been

9232
04:58:07,717 --> 04:58:08,818
thoughtful about their

9233
04:58:08,818 --> 04:58:10,354
assignments, that they've

9234
04:58:10,354 --> 04:58:11,388
they've said that they've

9235
04:58:11,388 --> 04:58:12,956
assigned to the students and

9236
04:58:12,956 --> 04:58:14,558
the work that they're grading.

9237
04:58:14,558 --> 04:58:15,458
>> Yeah, yeah. I agree with you

9238
04:58:15,458 --> 04:58:17,794
wholeheartedly. And I think

9239
04:58:17,794 --> 04:58:19,563
that that's part of where at

9240
04:58:19,563 --> 04:58:20,696
the beginning of the year and

9241
04:58:20,696 --> 04:58:22,531
during the summer, we'll have

9242
04:58:22,531 --> 04:58:24,768
some hot laps around teacher

9243
04:58:24,768 --> 04:58:26,369
efficacy and training. We are

9244
04:58:26,369 --> 04:58:28,104
also in the process of building

9245
04:58:28,104 --> 04:58:29,739
a mandatory ai literacy course

9246
04:58:29,739 --> 04:58:32,739
that will become required of

9247
04:58:32,943 --> 04:58:34,744
all educators to, to take and

9248
04:58:34,744 --> 04:58:36,312
complete before the the, the

9249
04:58:36,312 --> 04:58:38,382
first week of school. And I

9250
04:58:38,382 --> 04:58:40,250
think to your point, this is a

9251
04:58:40,250 --> 04:58:42,650
very nuanced conversation, to

9252
04:58:43,387 --> 04:58:45,522
be honest with you. And we are

9253
04:58:45,522 --> 04:58:46,789
traversing on a very uncharted

9254
04:58:46,789 --> 04:58:49,189
territory when with something

9255
04:58:49,393 --> 04:58:50,961
like this. And so the feedback

9256
04:58:50,961 --> 04:58:52,620
that we receive here in the

9257
04:58:52,620 --> 04:58:53,864
feedback that we've received,

9258
04:58:53,864 --> 04:58:55,399
it helps us to kind of build

9259
04:58:55,399 --> 04:58:56,700
some of this out. And so some

9260
04:58:56,700 --> 04:58:58,534
of the professional learning

9261
04:58:58,534 --> 04:59:00,303
that we are doing specifically

9262
04:59:00,303 --> 04:59:02,473
for teacher rollout is with

9263
04:59:02,473 --> 04:59:05,800
that in mind, when you use ai

9264
04:59:05,800 --> 04:59:06,509
for things like grading or for

9265
04:59:06,509 --> 04:59:07,878
creating instruction and

9266
04:59:07,878 --> 04:59:09,713
content outside of the core,

9267
04:59:09,713 --> 04:59:11,810
and the core will be ingested

9268
04:59:11,810 --> 04:59:13,481
into something like Magic

9269
04:59:14,510 --> 04:59:15,452
School. How do you, how do you

9270
04:59:15,452 --> 04:59:17,453
navigate through that and what

9271
04:59:17,453 --> 04:59:18,689
do you use and when do you use

9272
04:59:18,689 --> 04:59:19,823
it and when it's appropriate to

9273
04:59:19,823 --> 04:59:20,857
use those things. Those are

9274
04:59:20,857 --> 04:59:22,326
part of the professional

9275
04:59:22,326 --> 04:59:23,660
learning pieces that we're

9276
04:59:23,660 --> 04:59:25,495
building in for teachers and

9277
04:59:25,495 --> 04:59:28,640
for administrators as well. And

9278
04:59:28,640 --> 04:59:30,267
I think that that trust has to

9279
04:59:30,267 --> 04:59:32,690
be garnered through evidence of

9280
04:59:32,690 --> 04:59:34,305
what we what we do and what we

9281
04:59:34,305 --> 04:59:35,606
say, and part of the policy and

9282
04:59:35,606 --> 04:59:37,173
the guardrails and the process

9283
04:59:37,173 --> 04:59:38,843
that we're putting in place to

9284
04:59:38,843 --> 04:59:41,779
ensure that that does happen,

9285
04:59:41,779 --> 04:59:43,547
that that, that, that guarantee

9286
04:59:43,547 --> 04:59:44,982
that students should feel

9287
04:59:44,982 --> 04:59:46,483
trusted, that when a teacher is

9288
04:59:46,483 --> 04:59:48,883
grading their assignments, that

9289
04:59:49,687 --> 04:59:51,880
that is the expert teacher

9290
04:59:51,880 --> 04:59:53,190
providing that feedback and not

9291
04:59:53,190 --> 04:59:55,226
someone else. The two could be

9292
04:59:55,226 --> 04:59:56,594
used to support and enhance the

9293
04:59:56,594 --> 04:59:58,329
same thing. For when a student

9294
04:59:58,329 --> 04:59:59,730
is working on assignment using

9295
04:59:59,730 --> 05:00:00,931
ai in, they're producing

9296
05:00:00,931 --> 05:00:03,331
something that teacher should

9297
05:00:03,334 --> 05:00:05,102
be providing guidance and

9298
05:00:05,102 --> 05:00:07,270
direction on how to use that

9299
05:00:07,270 --> 05:00:08,371
tool and for what intended

9300
05:00:08,371 --> 05:00:09,773
purposes. That's part of the

9301
05:00:09,773 --> 05:00:12,376
training that has to happen as

9302
05:00:12,376 --> 05:00:13,576
well.

9303
05:00:13,576 --> 05:00:15,412
>> Thank you for speaking to

9304
05:00:15,412 --> 05:00:17,381
that. And I think one thing

9305
05:00:17,381 --> 05:00:19,584
that you said is very important

9306
05:00:19,584 --> 05:00:21,651
is the that we have to have

9307
05:00:21,651 --> 05:00:24,510
clear expectations that are

9308
05:00:25,220 --> 05:00:27,570
communicated both ways. So, you

9309
05:00:27,570 --> 05:00:28,559
know, I had some groups of

9310
05:00:28,559 --> 05:00:30,461
students said, you know, I had

9311
05:00:30,461 --> 05:00:31,695
a teacher that said I can use

9312
05:00:31,695 --> 05:00:33,631
ai in this way. And they made

9313
05:00:33,631 --> 05:00:34,699
it very clear. But I also think

9314
05:00:34,699 --> 05:00:36,567
the communication needs to come

9315
05:00:36,567 --> 05:00:38,469
from the teacher as well. Like

9316
05:00:38,469 --> 05:00:40,405
I used ai to help me create

9317
05:00:40,405 --> 05:00:42,206
this assignment and be having

9318
05:00:42,206 --> 05:00:43,307
clear expectations and

9319
05:00:43,307 --> 05:00:44,742
communications both ways in

9320
05:00:44,742 --> 05:00:46,444
which this is the way you're

9321
05:00:46,444 --> 05:00:48,379
allowed to use it. This is the

9322
05:00:48,379 --> 05:00:49,747
way I'm using it, I think helps

9323
05:00:49,747 --> 05:00:51,883
build that trust. But I'm

9324
05:00:51,883 --> 05:00:54,283
wondering, have we implemented

9325
05:00:55,519 --> 05:00:57,210
any kind of rubric to help

9326
05:00:57,210 --> 05:00:59,891
teachers guide students in the

9327
05:00:59,891 --> 05:01:00,658
ways that they can use ai for

9328
05:01:00,658 --> 05:01:01,259
assignments?

9329
05:01:01,259 --> 05:01:02,760
>> Yeah.

9330
05:01:02,760 --> 05:01:04,963
>> So that's a really great

9331
05:01:04,963 --> 05:01:07,310
question. We have not that has

9332
05:01:07,310 --> 05:01:08,499
been part of the discussion

9333
05:01:08,499 --> 05:01:10,668
with the a liaison's that we

9334
05:01:10,668 --> 05:01:13,537
look at rubric more around

9335
05:01:13,537 --> 05:01:15,537
assessments, assessing student

9336
05:01:15,674 --> 05:01:17,174
assignments. But I think that I

9337
05:01:17,174 --> 05:01:18,909
think that's a great point that

9338
05:01:18,909 --> 05:01:20,679
we can take back to the ai

9339
05:01:20,679 --> 05:01:22,880
liaison and talk about a rubric

9340
05:01:22,880 --> 05:01:23,948
that assesses the quality and

9341
05:01:23,948 --> 05:01:26,348
implementation of a teacher,

9342
05:01:26,417 --> 05:01:27,919
using it against instructional

9343
05:01:27,919 --> 05:01:29,721
materials, student artifacts,

9344
05:01:29,721 --> 05:01:31,456
but just using it as part of

9345
05:01:31,456 --> 05:01:32,924
students engaging and teachers

9346
05:01:32,924 --> 05:01:35,493
engaging in the process as part

9347
05:01:35,493 --> 05:01:37,893
of PLCs as well.

9348
05:01:38,730 --> 05:01:39,798
>> Okay. Also just saying to

9349
05:01:39,798 --> 05:01:40,866
students like this is an

9350
05:01:40,866 --> 05:01:43,100
assignment. You cannot, you

9351
05:01:43,100 --> 05:01:44,102
should not be using any iron

9352
05:01:44,102 --> 05:01:46,271
ore. This is an assignment that

9353
05:01:46,271 --> 05:01:48,806
you can use ai to help create

9354
05:01:48,806 --> 05:01:49,875
something like. I think those

9355
05:01:49,875 --> 05:01:52,344
expectations need to be very

9356
05:01:52,344 --> 05:01:53,812
clear.

9357
05:01:53,812 --> 05:01:56,212
>> We can do that.

9358
05:01:57,415 --> 05:01:59,584
>> Thank you. Some other

9359
05:01:59,584 --> 05:02:02,487
concerns I have heard from

9360
05:02:02,487 --> 05:02:04,556
students are the social impacts

9361
05:02:04,556 --> 05:02:06,825
of ai companions. Now, I know

9362
05:02:06,825 --> 05:02:08,627
that we are not giving students

9363
05:02:08,627 --> 05:02:11,429
access to ai companions, but

9364
05:02:11,429 --> 05:02:13,599
they are engaging with them

9365
05:02:13,599 --> 05:02:16,568
outside of school. And it is

9366
05:02:16,568 --> 05:02:19,337
very much my belief that as a

9367
05:02:19,337 --> 05:02:21,973
school system, we will suffer

9368
05:02:21,973 --> 05:02:25,573
the the negative impacts of of

9369
05:02:25,911 --> 05:02:27,179
that eventually. And I, I will

9370
05:02:27,179 --> 05:02:30,215
be talking a lot about this in

9371
05:02:30,215 --> 05:02:33,118
the future, but the need to

9372
05:02:33,118 --> 05:02:35,254
give kids more opportunity to

9373
05:02:35,254 --> 05:02:36,722
play and do human to human

9374
05:02:36,722 --> 05:02:39,625
interaction, to combat some of

9375
05:02:39,625 --> 05:02:42,127
those social impacts that their

9376
05:02:42,127 --> 05:02:45,727
ai use outside of school will,

9377
05:02:45,898 --> 05:02:48,233
will be causing. Something that

9378
05:02:48,233 --> 05:02:49,635
came up a lot today is an

9379
05:02:49,635 --> 05:02:51,635
implementation implementation

9380
05:02:53,238 --> 05:02:54,739
plan. So I'm wondering, like I,

9381
05:02:54,739 --> 05:02:55,741
when I think about an

9382
05:02:55,741 --> 05:02:57,242
implementation plan, and we've

9383
05:02:57,242 --> 05:02:59,642
had this discussion with

9384
05:03:01,179 --> 05:03:03,480
regards to magic School, which

9385
05:03:03,480 --> 05:03:04,783
I'll, I'll speak to later on,

9386
05:03:04,783 --> 05:03:07,783
but what is the implementation

9387
05:03:08,720 --> 05:03:09,788
plan for ai in our school

9388
05:03:09,788 --> 05:03:11,223
specifically? I guess magic

9389
05:03:11,223 --> 05:03:14,920
school, since that's the big

9390
05:03:14,920 --> 05:03:16,940
tool that, you know, has been

9391
05:03:16,940 --> 05:03:17,797
generously invested in. Can we

9392
05:03:17,797 --> 05:03:19,198
talk about that? Like when

9393
05:03:19,198 --> 05:03:20,298
students will have access to it,

9394
05:03:20,298 --> 05:03:21,700
when teachers will have access

9395
05:03:21,700 --> 05:03:22,101
to it, what training we're

9396
05:03:22,101 --> 05:03:23,369
doing?

9397
05:03:23,369 --> 05:03:25,638
>> Yeah. So I think we start

9398
05:03:25,638 --> 05:03:27,539
off from the beginning prior to

9399
05:03:27,539 --> 05:03:28,908
us rolling, it will be fully

9400
05:03:28,908 --> 05:03:30,543
rolled out next year. And so

9401
05:03:30,543 --> 05:03:32,778
one of the things we wanted to

9402
05:03:32,778 --> 05:03:35,140
do is launch Magic School as a

9403
05:03:35,140 --> 05:03:37,116
prototype. So all ai liaisons

9404
05:03:37,116 --> 05:03:38,952
had an opportunity over a year

9405
05:03:38,952 --> 05:03:41,870
period to actually play with

9406
05:03:41,870 --> 05:03:43,289
magic school, to end user

9407
05:03:43,289 --> 05:03:45,458
tested, to look at some of the

9408
05:03:45,458 --> 05:03:46,893
key components of instructional

9409
05:03:46,893 --> 05:03:48,260
materials. And they gave us

9410
05:03:48,260 --> 05:03:49,862
feedback along the way. We

9411
05:03:49,862 --> 05:03:51,564
didn't just roll this out as we

9412
05:03:51,564 --> 05:03:53,320
typically do some large scale

9413
05:03:53,320 --> 05:03:55,432
initiatives because of the

9414
05:03:55,501 --> 05:03:58,370
sensitivity of ai and what it

9415
05:03:58,370 --> 05:03:59,938
can and cannot do. We got a lot

9416
05:03:59,938 --> 05:04:01,473
of feedback in terms of how we

9417
05:04:01,473 --> 05:04:04,910
wanted to design the plan for

9418
05:04:04,910 --> 05:04:06,120
rollout. And so most of our ai

9419
05:04:06,120 --> 05:04:07,880
liaisons, or I should say all

9420
05:04:07,880 --> 05:04:10,282
of them, are now what we

9421
05:04:10,282 --> 05:04:11,784
consider experts in using magic

9422
05:04:11,784 --> 05:04:13,519
school. They fully gone through

9423
05:04:13,519 --> 05:04:14,553
and gotten all of the

9424
05:04:14,553 --> 05:04:15,922
credentialing. So our, our

9425
05:04:15,922 --> 05:04:19,525
fully roll out plan is to first

9426
05:04:19,525 --> 05:04:21,360
allow the teachers to get

9427
05:04:21,360 --> 05:04:22,761
trained on magic School during

9428
05:04:22,761 --> 05:04:25,310
pre planning week, and then

9429
05:04:25,310 --> 05:04:27,990
support them and then provide a

9430
05:04:27,990 --> 05:04:28,934
level two access. In terms of

9431
05:04:28,934 --> 05:04:31,334
teachers giving access to

9432
05:04:31,437 --> 05:04:32,906
students, once the teachers are

9433
05:04:32,906 --> 05:04:34,307
comfortable and have access to

9434
05:04:34,307 --> 05:04:36,475
it. So we're working with Magic

9435
05:04:36,475 --> 05:04:38,770
School right now to launch the

9436
05:04:38,770 --> 05:04:39,412
not only the teacher portion,

9437
05:04:39,412 --> 05:04:41,314
but the student component of it

9438
05:04:41,314 --> 05:04:43,116
as well. And so it has to do

9439
05:04:43,116 --> 05:04:45,451
with readiness when a teacher

9440
05:04:45,451 --> 05:04:46,553
is ready in, the assignment is

9441
05:04:46,553 --> 05:04:49,880
appropriate for the student to

9442
05:04:49,880 --> 05:04:50,489
have access to magic school ai

9443
05:04:50,489 --> 05:04:52,240
within the classroom

9444
05:04:52,240 --> 05:04:54,240
environment.

9445
05:04:54,628 --> 05:04:55,929
>> Okay, I will, I will, I will

9446
05:04:55,929 --> 05:04:57,464
ask for consensus around this

9447
05:04:57,464 --> 05:04:59,132
later, but I really do think

9448
05:04:59,132 --> 05:05:02,732
that there needs to be a

9449
05:05:03,469 --> 05:05:04,971
written plan on our website.

9450
05:05:04,971 --> 05:05:06,339
And I think there needs to be

9451
05:05:06,339 --> 05:05:08,208
school based communications.

9452
05:05:08,208 --> 05:05:10,900
Like I've mentioned this before,

9453
05:05:10,900 --> 05:05:11,780
Bayview Elementary does like a

9454
05:05:11,780 --> 05:05:12,846
parent night where they walk

9455
05:05:12,846 --> 05:05:14,581
the parents through each piece

9456
05:05:14,581 --> 05:05:16,183
of software that the that their

9457
05:05:16,183 --> 05:05:18,585
students have access to so that

9458
05:05:18,585 --> 05:05:19,886
the parents understand like the

9459
05:05:19,886 --> 05:05:22,222
purpose of each tool, how to

9460
05:05:22,222 --> 05:05:23,189
use each tool, what their,

9461
05:05:23,189 --> 05:05:25,589
their students, what their

9462
05:05:26,127 --> 05:05:27,928
children should be doing on the

9463
05:05:27,928 --> 05:05:29,796
computer. And so I think we

9464
05:05:29,796 --> 05:05:30,797
really need, again, an

9465
05:05:30,797 --> 05:05:32,966
implementation plan on the

9466
05:05:32,966 --> 05:05:34,568
website, but also communicated

9467
05:05:34,568 --> 05:05:36,603
by the schools where parents

9468
05:05:36,603 --> 05:05:38,372
can sit down and use these

9469
05:05:38,372 --> 05:05:40,173
tools and practice them before

9470
05:05:40,173 --> 05:05:42,476
they, they, so that they can

9471
05:05:42,476 --> 05:05:44,876
feel comfortable with their,

9472
05:05:45,245 --> 05:05:47,247
their child interacting with it.

9473
05:05:47,247 --> 05:05:49,215
>> So I like that idea. I think

9474
05:05:49,215 --> 05:05:50,317
one of the things we can do to,

9475
05:05:50,317 --> 05:05:52,452
again, further engage the

9476
05:05:52,452 --> 05:05:55,452
community is create an ai

9477
05:05:55,622 --> 05:05:57,157
communication t tooit in a in a

9478
05:05:57,157 --> 05:05:58,358
PowerPoioi preresentioionhat's

9479
05:05:58,358 --> 05:05:59,659
consisntnt ttveryrychool

9480
05:05:59,659 --> 05:06:01,461
will r receive. It could be part

9481
05:06:01,461 --> 05:06:03,297
of o open house, it could be part

9482
05:06:03,297 --> 05:06:05,399
of parent university, and it

9483
05:06:05,399 --> 05:06:07,201
could be an expectation that

9484
05:06:07,201 --> 05:06:08,569
every teacher receive this and

9485
05:06:08,569 --> 05:06:10,136
every administrator receives it.

9486
05:06:10,136 --> 05:06:11,571
And we can roll that out before

9487
05:06:11,571 --> 05:06:14,475
the beginning of the year.

9488
05:06:14,475 --> 05:06:17,277
>> I appreciate that, and I

9489
05:06:17,277 --> 05:06:18,445
still think that the parent

9490
05:06:18,445 --> 05:06:19,847
feedback is incredibly

9491
05:06:19,847 --> 05:06:21,281
important, and giving parents

9492
05:06:21,281 --> 05:06:23,116
access to these tools before

9493
05:06:23,116 --> 05:06:25,119
their students have access to

9494
05:06:25,119 --> 05:06:27,120
them to, to be able to use them

9495
05:06:27,120 --> 05:06:28,454
and understand how their child

9496
05:06:28,454 --> 05:06:30,591
will be interacting with it, I

9497
05:06:30,591 --> 05:06:30,824
think is very, very important.

9498
05:06:30,824 --> 05:06:32,726
>> Yeah.

9499
05:06:32,726 --> 05:06:34,595
>> I think we can also include

9500
05:06:34,595 --> 05:06:36,864
on the parent portal some

9501
05:06:36,864 --> 05:06:38,532
tutorial videos on Magic School

9502
05:06:38,532 --> 05:06:39,899
on there, so parents can

9503
05:06:39,899 --> 05:06:41,468
readily go on and just learn

9504
05:06:41,468 --> 05:06:43,570
about Magic School. Just to

9505
05:06:43,570 --> 05:06:44,839
your point, to feel assured

9506
05:06:44,839 --> 05:06:47,374
that when it becomes available

9507
05:06:47,374 --> 05:06:48,975
to students, they can, they're

9508
05:06:48,975 --> 05:06:50,210
more informed and more educated

9509
05:06:50,210 --> 05:06:51,512
about what Magic school really

9510
05:06:51,512 --> 05:06:53,512
is doing.

9511
05:06:56,484 --> 05:06:58,386
>> Okay. Again, I, I think so I

9512
05:06:58,386 --> 05:07:00,454
was able to sit down and test

9513
05:07:00,454 --> 05:07:04,540
out the test out magic school

9514
05:07:05,192 --> 05:07:06,827
from a student perspective. And

9515
05:07:06,827 --> 05:07:08,362
I can tell you in doing that,

9516
05:07:08,362 --> 05:07:10,130
it made me much more

9517
05:07:10,130 --> 05:07:12,366
comfortable with the tool and

9518
05:07:12,366 --> 05:07:13,834
much more comfortable. Like I

9519
05:07:13,834 --> 05:07:15,236
feel good about giving kids

9520
05:07:15,236 --> 05:07:17,170
access to it because I was able

9521
05:07:17,170 --> 05:07:19,600
to test it out and see how it

9522
05:07:19,600 --> 05:07:21,676
how it's used. And that is

9523
05:07:21,676 --> 05:07:23,544
coming from someone who is

9524
05:07:23,544 --> 05:07:25,679
concerned about the expansion

9525
05:07:25,679 --> 05:07:28,316
of ai throughout our world.

9526
05:07:28,316 --> 05:07:31,152
Right? So I think being able to

9527
05:07:31,152 --> 05:07:34,152
give parents access to practice

9528
05:07:34,655 --> 05:07:36,390
with it will do us a lot of

9529
05:07:36,390 --> 05:07:39,990
favors in our deployment of it.

9530
05:07:43,697 --> 05:07:44,799
So I will keep saying that. To

9531
05:07:44,799 --> 05:07:46,534
the Nova Innovations zone. I

9532
05:07:46,534 --> 05:07:49,534
have a quick question about

9533
05:07:50,872 --> 05:07:52,273
this. Have Nova employees been

9534
05:07:52,273 --> 05:07:54,509
communicated with and or

9535
05:07:54,509 --> 05:07:55,976
consulted with about this

9536
05:07:55,976 --> 05:07:57,377
innovation zone plan?

9537
05:07:57,377 --> 05:07:59,777
>> So we've had communications

9538
05:07:59,881 --> 05:08:01,983
with the principals about this

9539
05:08:01,983 --> 05:08:04,952
this concept. We've not taken

9540
05:08:04,952 --> 05:08:05,987
it any further down than the

9541
05:08:05,987 --> 05:08:06,988
administration's. I know in

9542
05:08:06,988 --> 05:08:08,289
speaking with the principals,

9543
05:08:08,289 --> 05:08:10,689
are extremely excited about

9544
05:08:10,758 --> 05:08:12,527
this initiative. We have a lot

9545
05:08:12,527 --> 05:08:14,695
of work ahead of us because

9546
05:08:14,695 --> 05:08:17,231
this is more of a 4 to 5 year

9547
05:08:17,231 --> 05:08:18,967
plan. So nothing in the first 2

9548
05:08:18,967 --> 05:08:20,368
or 3 years is going to impact

9549
05:08:20,368 --> 05:08:22,368
the school necessarily.

9550
05:08:22,536 --> 05:08:24,439
>> Okay. I will just say from

9551
05:08:24,439 --> 05:08:26,740
an employee perspective, if I'm

9552
05:08:26,740 --> 05:08:27,208
a teacher at Nova and I'm

9553
05:08:27,208 --> 05:08:29,100
learning about this in the

9554
05:08:29,100 --> 05:08:31,546
paper, or like by watching a

9555
05:08:31,546 --> 05:08:33,815
school board meeting, it feels

9556
05:08:33,815 --> 05:08:35,449
some kind of way. And, you know,

9557
05:08:35,449 --> 05:08:36,552
these will be the people who

9558
05:08:36,552 --> 05:08:38,753
are implementing this on a day

9559
05:08:38,753 --> 05:08:39,854
to day basis. And so including

9560
05:08:39,854 --> 05:08:41,322
their input and collaborating

9561
05:08:41,322 --> 05:08:41,989
with them, I think is really

9562
05:08:41,989 --> 05:08:43,989
important.

9563
05:08:44,259 --> 05:08:45,427
>> Yeah. And I do think you're

9564
05:08:45,427 --> 05:08:48,950
absolutely right. I think part

9565
05:08:48,950 --> 05:08:49,197
of the concept that we were

9566
05:08:49,197 --> 05:08:51,433
approaching this in the

9567
05:08:51,433 --> 05:08:53,201
redefining piece is that it MAY

9568
05:08:53,201 --> 05:08:55,704
not be for every teacher, and

9569
05:08:55,704 --> 05:08:57,572
it MAY not be for every student,

9570
05:08:57,572 --> 05:08:59,241
because if we're technically

9571
05:08:59,241 --> 05:09:01,760
redefining, because these are

9572
05:09:01,760 --> 05:09:03,440
all these are not neighborhood

9573
05:09:03,440 --> 05:09:04,378
kids. And so I think, and this

9574
05:09:04,378 --> 05:09:05,614
is why we wanted to bring this

9575
05:09:05,614 --> 05:09:07,249
to the board, because we're,

9576
05:09:07,249 --> 05:09:10,249
we're saying we're taking this

9577
05:09:10,519 --> 05:09:13,154
to a different level of really

9578
05:09:13,154 --> 05:09:15,154
educational system engagement.

9579
05:09:15,189 --> 05:09:17,359
And so perhaps when we redesign

9580
05:09:17,359 --> 05:09:19,270
this space, it MAY not be for

9581
05:09:19,270 --> 05:09:20,329
all students, but it will be

9582
05:09:20,329 --> 05:09:22,130
for a lot of other students.

9583
05:09:22,130 --> 05:09:23,966
And I'll tell you that when I

9584
05:09:23,966 --> 05:09:26,100
shared this, because I tend to

9585
05:09:26,100 --> 05:09:27,669
go on the road and I share this

9586
05:09:27,669 --> 05:09:29,238
when I share this with with

9587
05:09:29,238 --> 05:09:31,339
community members at the

9588
05:09:31,339 --> 05:09:32,975
Broward Community Foundations,

9589
05:09:32,975 --> 05:09:34,575
parents who are not students. I

9590
05:09:34,575 --> 05:09:36,440
had students in public schools.

9591
05:09:36,440 --> 05:09:37,378
They wanted to know, how can

9592
05:09:37,378 --> 05:09:40,381
they sign up for something like

9593
05:09:40,381 --> 05:09:41,784
this? So when we talk about

9594
05:09:41,784 --> 05:09:42,885
redesigning and reengaging the

9595
05:09:42,885 --> 05:09:45,654
community and trying to bring

9596
05:09:45,654 --> 05:09:46,755
back parents, there's a lot of

9597
05:09:46,755 --> 05:09:48,991
models that we currently have

9598
05:09:48,991 --> 05:09:50,458
that look very similar to other

9599
05:09:50,458 --> 05:09:51,860
schools in this district. This

9600
05:09:51,860 --> 05:09:53,620
will be the first model that

9601
05:09:53,620 --> 05:09:55,464
doesn't look like any other

9602
05:09:55,464 --> 05:09:57,967
school district in any other

9603
05:09:57,967 --> 05:10:00,469
school. And so we've had a lot

9604
05:10:00,469 --> 05:10:02,604
of conversations with a lot of

9605
05:10:02,604 --> 05:10:04,439
business partners and a lot of

9606
05:10:04,439 --> 05:10:05,674
national experts to say, if you

9607
05:10:05,674 --> 05:10:07,709
all are able to do something

9608
05:10:07,709 --> 05:10:09,111
like this, this is a national

9609
05:10:09,111 --> 05:10:11,279
model. And so this is a

9610
05:10:11,279 --> 05:10:12,915
courageous, bold step to do

9611
05:10:12,915 --> 05:10:15,315
something very, very different.

9612
05:10:15,384 --> 05:10:17,520
And so there's no holding back

9613
05:10:17,520 --> 05:10:18,487
on something like this.

9614
05:10:18,487 --> 05:10:19,755
>> Yeah. And I think, you know,

9615
05:10:19,755 --> 05:10:22,458
I agree and I'm very excited

9616
05:10:22,458 --> 05:10:23,826
about this. And like the and I

9617
05:10:23,826 --> 05:10:24,994
agree that maybe it's not for

9618
05:10:24,994 --> 05:10:26,729
some teachers, but there are

9619
05:10:26,729 --> 05:10:28,930
teachers there who are excited

9620
05:10:28,930 --> 05:10:31,800
about it and they will be the

9621
05:10:31,800 --> 05:10:33,602
ones implementing it. And their

9622
05:10:33,602 --> 05:10:34,637
professional expertise is

9623
05:10:34,637 --> 05:10:36,505
invaluable. And they should be

9624
05:10:36,505 --> 05:10:38,640
a part of the collaboration

9625
05:10:38,640 --> 05:10:40,420
process of building this very

9626
05:10:40,420 --> 05:10:42,420
exciting program.

9627
05:10:45,114 --> 05:10:46,549
>> Thousand percent agree.

9628
05:10:46,549 --> 05:10:47,749
>> The issue of measurable

9629
05:10:47,749 --> 05:10:50,586
goals was brought up multiple

9630
05:10:50,586 --> 05:10:52,154
times today, so I don't know

9631
05:10:52,154 --> 05:10:53,356
that we can answer this

9632
05:10:53,356 --> 05:10:54,991
question today, but I would

9633
05:10:54,991 --> 05:10:56,658
really like us. I would really

9634
05:10:56,658 --> 05:10:59,896
like to see sometime in the

9635
05:10:59,896 --> 05:11:01,330
next month or two, what do

9636
05:11:01,330 --> 05:11:03,330
measurable goals for

9637
05:11:03,533 --> 05:11:05,635
implementation of Magic School

9638
05:11:05,635 --> 05:11:07,690
of this Nova innovation zone?

9639
05:11:07,690 --> 05:11:09,238
Like, what are the measurable

9640
05:11:09,238 --> 05:11:11,708
goals that we can implement for

9641
05:11:11,708 --> 05:11:13,242
these different initiatives and

9642
05:11:13,242 --> 05:11:14,277
programs? Because, you know,

9643
05:11:14,277 --> 05:11:16,120
the question continues to be

9644
05:11:16,120 --> 05:11:17,947
like, what is the purpose of

9645
05:11:17,947 --> 05:11:19,150
all of this? And I can answer

9646
05:11:19,150 --> 05:11:20,830
that question and you can

9647
05:11:20,830 --> 05:11:21,951
answer that question, but how

9648
05:11:21,951 --> 05:11:23,218
are we going to measure that?

9649
05:11:23,218 --> 05:11:24,954
And I think it's important that

9650
05:11:24,954 --> 05:11:26,889
we all have like a shared

9651
05:11:26,889 --> 05:11:29,570
vision and goal for, for these

9652
05:11:29,570 --> 05:11:30,459
things. Yeah.

9653
05:11:30,459 --> 05:11:32,328
>> MISS Leonardi yeah, if you

9654
05:11:32,328 --> 05:11:34,197
don't mind. So I know that when

9655
05:11:34,197 --> 05:11:35,198
we did bring the Magic School

9656
05:11:35,198 --> 05:11:36,266
agreement, we did, we did

9657
05:11:36,266 --> 05:11:38,670
actually create measurable

9658
05:11:38,670 --> 05:11:40,236
goals not only with our partner

9659
05:11:40,236 --> 05:11:42,380
but also with Magic School. And

9660
05:11:42,380 --> 05:11:43,439
these are goals that no other

9661
05:11:43,439 --> 05:11:45,674
district, by the way, is doing,

9662
05:11:45,674 --> 05:11:47,410
because ai is just so new. In

9663
05:11:47,410 --> 05:11:48,845
the executive summary, we set,

9664
05:11:48,845 --> 05:11:50,714
our return on investment was

9665
05:11:50,714 --> 05:11:53,182
going to be on how do we save

9666
05:11:53,182 --> 05:11:54,616
teacher time. We also looked at

9667
05:11:54,616 --> 05:11:56,860
improving instructional

9668
05:11:56,860 --> 05:11:58,860
differentiating using multiple

9669
05:11:58,255 --> 05:12:00,560
tiers of support, which is the

9670
05:12:00,560 --> 05:12:02,525
MTSs. And we have a logic model

9671
05:12:02,525 --> 05:12:05,862
built around there. And we had

9672
05:12:05,862 --> 05:12:08,631
a commitment to our donors that

9673
05:12:08,631 --> 05:12:10,533
we would provide quarterly and

9674
05:12:10,533 --> 05:12:11,835
annual reports on these

9675
05:12:11,835 --> 05:12:13,703
measurable outcomes. And so

9676
05:12:13,703 --> 05:12:15,672
there there is metrics already

9677
05:12:15,672 --> 05:12:17,741
out there for us to determine

9678
05:12:17,741 --> 05:12:18,842
the efficacy around Magic

9679
05:12:18,842 --> 05:12:21,545
School. And it's simply not

9680
05:12:21,545 --> 05:12:23,545
about usage.

9681
05:12:24,815 --> 05:12:26,450
>> I appreciate that. I think

9682
05:12:26,450 --> 05:12:28,510
then the board and the district

9683
05:12:28,510 --> 05:12:29,486
need to communicate that better,

9684
05:12:29,486 --> 05:12:32,486
because we heard it multiple

9685
05:12:33,457 --> 05:12:35,292
times today. And I think like

9686
05:12:35,292 --> 05:12:36,260
when we go back to the

9687
05:12:36,260 --> 05:12:36,993
implementation plan and

9688
05:12:36,993 --> 05:12:38,528
communicating with parents,

9689
05:12:38,528 --> 05:12:39,963
like making those things very

9690
05:12:39,963 --> 05:12:42,963
clear. Thank you for clarifying

9691
05:12:43,233 --> 05:12:45,301
that. I'm glad lolly is here

9692
05:12:45,301 --> 05:12:46,737
because I think, you know,

9693
05:12:46,737 --> 05:12:48,538
graduations this year had me

9694
05:12:48,538 --> 05:12:51,208
thinking a lot about the career

9695
05:12:51,208 --> 05:12:54,208
pathways we offer to students

9696
05:12:55,450 --> 05:12:56,213
and specifically around like

9697
05:12:56,213 --> 05:12:58,613
commercial driving and things

9698
05:12:59,820 --> 05:13:00,784
like that. This technology is

9699
05:13:00,784 --> 05:13:04,540
going to change the jobs that

9700
05:13:04,540 --> 05:13:05,823
are available in five, ten, 20

9701
05:13:05,823 --> 05:13:08,324
years. And I really hope that

9702
05:13:08,324 --> 05:13:09,793
we can think about the, the

9703
05:13:09,793 --> 05:13:11,793
certifications that we're

9704
05:13:12,395 --> 05:13:13,697
offering and reevaluate those.

9705
05:13:13,697 --> 05:13:17,297
So I'm wondering if we could

9706
05:13:17,767 --> 05:13:19,169
get a follow up on, you know,

9707
05:13:19,169 --> 05:13:20,270
evaluating the different

9708
05:13:20,270 --> 05:13:21,705
certificates and career

9709
05:13:21,705 --> 05:13:23,339
pathways that we're offering

9710
05:13:23,339 --> 05:13:24,975
and whether or not we need to

9711
05:13:24,975 --> 05:13:27,770
phase some out or reduce some

9712
05:13:27,770 --> 05:13:28,645
of them.

9713
05:13:28,645 --> 05:13:29,980
>> Hi, everyone. Lolly from Oso,

9714
05:13:29,980 --> 05:13:32,149
career technical adult and.

9715
05:13:32,149 --> 05:13:33,617
>> Community education director.

9716
05:13:33,617 --> 05:13:35,351
So we are actually in our

9717
05:13:35,351 --> 05:13:37,955
second year of our artificial

9718
05:13:37,955 --> 05:13:39,522
intelligence, cte pathway. And

9719
05:13:39,522 --> 05:13:40,825
Nova High School was actually

9720
05:13:40,825 --> 05:13:42,226
our first school that we

9721
05:13:42,226 --> 05:13:43,994
launched last year. This year,

9722
05:13:43,994 --> 05:13:46,197
we're up to five schools, and

9723
05:13:46,197 --> 05:13:48,365
next year we will have 13

9724
05:13:48,365 --> 05:13:50,500
schools on board. Our students

9725
05:13:50,500 --> 05:13:52,670
this year actually passed

9726
05:13:52,670 --> 05:13:54,438
almost 700 artificial

9727
05:13:54,438 --> 05:13:55,939
intelligence industry

9728
05:13:55,939 --> 05:13:58,339
certification exams already. So

9729
05:13:58,375 --> 05:13:59,844
we are very excited about that.

9730
05:13:59,844 --> 05:14:02,379
And so they're using copilot.

9731
05:14:02,379 --> 05:14:04,581
So we have a group of about 380

9732
05:14:04,581 --> 05:14:05,949
students that have copilot

9733
05:14:05,949 --> 05:14:07,510
access. And then at the end of

9734
05:14:07,510 --> 05:14:08,853
their curriculum, they are

9735
05:14:08,853 --> 05:14:10,288
taking the Microsoft Azure. So

9736
05:14:10,288 --> 05:14:11,689
they're practicing with

9737
05:14:11,689 --> 05:14:14,224
Microsoft Copilot to then take

9738
05:14:14,224 --> 05:14:15,626
the Azure exam, which is the

9739
05:14:15,626 --> 05:14:18,626
the industry standard. So we

9740
05:14:18,796 --> 05:14:20,300
have just under 700 students

9741
05:14:20,300 --> 05:14:21,198
that will graduate with that

9742
05:14:21,198 --> 05:14:22,399
industry cert.

9743
05:14:22,399 --> 05:14:24,135
>> Thank you so much. Thank you

9744
05:14:24,135 --> 05:14:25,269
for reframing that, because I

9745
05:14:25,269 --> 05:14:26,470
talked about like jobs that are

9746
05:14:26,470 --> 05:14:28,239
going away, but you're talking

9747
05:14:28,239 --> 05:14:29,440
about jobs that are going to be

9748
05:14:29,440 --> 05:14:31,141
created. So I appreciate you

9749
05:14:31,141 --> 05:14:32,443
bringing that up and bringing

9750
05:14:32,443 --> 05:14:34,278
up the the ai career pathways,

9751
05:14:34,278 --> 05:14:36,179
but I still would like a follow

9752
05:14:36,179 --> 05:14:37,248
up to, to see, you know, if

9753
05:14:37,248 --> 05:14:38,683
there are some things that we

9754
05:14:38,683 --> 05:14:40,150
need to maybe refocus or

9755
05:14:40,150 --> 05:14:40,451
reevaluate for the future.

9756
05:14:40,451 --> 05:14:42,153
>> Yeah.

9757
05:14:42,153 --> 05:14:42,387
>> I'm logging that follow up

9758
05:14:42,387 --> 05:14:44,387
for you.

9759
05:14:44,856 --> 05:14:47,325
>> Thank you. I have a question

9760
05:14:47,325 --> 05:14:50,962
about a board follow up that we

9761
05:14:50,962 --> 05:14:52,363
got about technology that we've

9762
05:14:52,363 --> 05:14:54,763
discontinued and that's saved

9763
05:14:56,434 --> 05:14:58,502
the district money. So in the

9764
05:14:58,502 --> 05:15:00,704
follow up, it said that we have

9765
05:15:00,704 --> 05:15:03,875
high engagement in new the la

9766
05:15:03,875 --> 05:15:05,142
or Newsela. But then later on

9767
05:15:05,142 --> 05:15:06,110
in the follow up, it said we

9768
05:15:06,110 --> 05:15:07,545
discontinued it. Can someone

9769
05:15:07,545 --> 05:15:08,913
provide some clarification on

9770
05:15:08,913 --> 05:15:10,913
that?

9771
05:15:11,849 --> 05:15:13,849
>> Go ahead. Sure.

9772
05:15:14,818 --> 05:15:17,589
>> So every year, annually, we

9773
05:15:17,589 --> 05:15:19,757
we do revisit all supplemental

9774
05:15:19,757 --> 05:15:21,959
programs at the request of the

9775
05:15:21,959 --> 05:15:24,359
board, obviously, in making

9776
05:15:24,829 --> 05:15:26,965
sure that every supplemental

9777
05:15:26,965 --> 05:15:29,134
software is doing two things.

9778
05:15:29,134 --> 05:15:30,268
It's it's getting traction and

9779
05:15:30,268 --> 05:15:32,404
usage, and it's actually doing

9780
05:15:32,404 --> 05:15:34,172
what it says it's doing at the

9781
05:15:34,172 --> 05:15:36,374
advent of improving student

9782
05:15:36,374 --> 05:15:37,775
outcomes. When we looked at all

9783
05:15:37,775 --> 05:15:39,244
programs and we only had a

9784
05:15:39,244 --> 05:15:40,679
certain amount of money and

9785
05:15:40,679 --> 05:15:42,213
budget, we had to look at

9786
05:15:42,213 --> 05:15:43,882
programs that were not that met

9787
05:15:43,882 --> 05:15:46,882
both criteria, but had the

9788
05:15:47,118 --> 05:15:49,287
least impact on the system and

9789
05:15:49,287 --> 05:15:51,560
on the district, and also which

9790
05:15:51,560 --> 05:15:52,290
one was the most costly as well

9791
05:15:52,290 --> 05:15:54,920
at the same time, because money

9792
05:15:54,920 --> 05:15:55,960
as a factor in that. And so

9793
05:15:55,960 --> 05:15:58,296
when we looked at Newsela, it

9794
05:15:58,296 --> 05:16:00,832
had high usage, but we had

9795
05:16:00,832 --> 05:16:02,600
other competing supplemental

9796
05:16:02,600 --> 05:16:04,836
programs that also did some

9797
05:16:04,836 --> 05:16:07,236
complimentary things that it

9798
05:16:08,373 --> 05:16:10,208
could have been perceived as

9799
05:16:10,208 --> 05:16:11,609
redundant. And so we looked at

9800
05:16:11,609 --> 05:16:12,878
redundancy, we looked at roi,

9801
05:16:12,878 --> 05:16:14,847
we looked at student efficacy,

9802
05:16:14,847 --> 05:16:16,314
and we looked at usage. And

9803
05:16:16,314 --> 05:16:17,416
I'll just say most of our

9804
05:16:17,416 --> 05:16:18,884
supplemental programs, although

9805
05:16:18,884 --> 05:16:22,540
we hear these these numbers of

9806
05:16:22,540 --> 05:16:24,454
this $80 million, which is

9807
05:16:24,989 --> 05:16:27,989
interesting, we only have a

9808
05:16:28,560 --> 05:16:30,329
small footprint of supplemental

9809
05:16:30,329 --> 05:16:31,864
resources by content area and

9810
05:16:31,864 --> 05:16:33,699
by program. And so that was one

9811
05:16:33,699 --> 05:16:35,200
of the ones, unfortunately. And

9812
05:16:35,200 --> 05:16:37,690
I was just talking to DR. Zeman

9813
05:16:37,690 --> 05:16:38,337
about Nearpod. We did the same

9814
05:16:38,337 --> 05:16:41,105
thing with Nearpod. Nearpod was

9815
05:16:41,105 --> 05:16:42,908
a k through 12 initiative. We

9816
05:16:42,908 --> 05:16:44,376
folded it under secondary

9817
05:16:44,376 --> 05:16:46,780
learning because most of the

9818
05:16:46,780 --> 05:16:48,347
secondary teachers used it more

9819
05:16:48,347 --> 05:16:50,115
than our k k through five

9820
05:16:50,115 --> 05:16:52,284
teachers. It's one of the

9821
05:16:52,284 --> 05:16:53,785
single supplemental programs

9822
05:16:53,785 --> 05:16:54,853
that actually teaches

9823
05:16:54,853 --> 05:16:57,253
keyboarding at the elementary

9824
05:16:58,570 --> 05:17:00,559
level, but it was a cost of

9825
05:17:00,559 --> 05:17:02,600
$907,000.

9826
05:17:02,600 --> 05:17:04,460
>> Thank you for clarifying

9827
05:17:05,397 --> 05:17:09,597
that. I also saw in the follow

9828
05:17:10,669 --> 05:17:13,239
up that it said that Iready was

9829
05:17:13,239 --> 05:17:14,272
hold on the. We did a middle

9830
05:17:14,272 --> 05:17:16,672
school and high school

9831
05:17:16,809 --> 05:17:18,760
reduction on Iready, but when I

9832
05:17:18,760 --> 05:17:19,312
spoke with some middle groups

9833
05:17:19,312 --> 05:17:21,790
of middle school students at my

9834
05:17:21,790 --> 05:17:23,215
middle schools in, I think,

9835
05:17:23,215 --> 05:17:24,349
APRIL ish, and they said that

9836
05:17:24,349 --> 05:17:26,749
their teachers had really

9837
05:17:26,919 --> 05:17:30,189
ramped up the use of Iready. So

9838
05:17:30,189 --> 05:17:31,524
can you help me understand that.

9839
05:17:31,524 --> 05:17:33,292
>> In terms of why we're not

9840
05:17:33,292 --> 05:17:34,930
moving towards I-ready middle

9841
05:17:34,930 --> 05:17:35,527
school or.

9842
05:17:35,527 --> 05:17:36,596
>> Well, so I guess, are we

9843
05:17:36,596 --> 05:17:37,563
doing the reduction after the

9844
05:17:37,563 --> 05:17:38,731
school year? Because these

9845
05:17:38,731 --> 05:17:40,299
middle school students all in

9846
05:17:40,299 --> 05:17:41,499
APRIL were like, we're using

9847
05:17:41,499 --> 05:17:43,469
I-ready all of a sudden now.

9848
05:17:43,469 --> 05:17:45,571
>> Yeah. So we've we've again,

9849
05:17:45,571 --> 05:17:47,706
due to declining enrollment in

9850
05:17:47,706 --> 05:17:49,208
no budget last year with

9851
05:17:49,208 --> 05:17:51,100
i-ready, we only focused on

9852
05:17:51,100 --> 05:17:53,179
tier three middle schools,

9853
05:17:53,179 --> 05:17:54,647
which was about 16 or so.

9854
05:17:54,647 --> 05:17:56,482
Middle schools only had access

9855
05:17:56,482 --> 05:17:57,783
to it at their request. And

9856
05:17:57,783 --> 05:17:59,619
they focused on the

9857
05:17:59,619 --> 05:18:01,854
intervention part of it. This

9858
05:18:01,854 --> 05:18:04,290
year, we're looking to, again,

9859
05:18:04,290 --> 05:18:06,920
move away from I-ready at the

9860
05:18:06,920 --> 05:18:07,927
middle school level and only

9861
05:18:07,927 --> 05:18:09,762
focus on the suite at the

9862
05:18:09,762 --> 05:18:11,397
elementary level. Again,

9863
05:18:11,397 --> 05:18:12,632
because of cost, we need to

9864
05:18:12,632 --> 05:18:14,500
reduce the footprint.

9865
05:18:14,500 --> 05:18:16,135
>> Got it. Okay, I'm going to

9866
05:18:16,135 --> 05:18:17,369
go through I have some

9867
05:18:17,369 --> 05:18:19,339
questions about copilot 13 plus

9868
05:18:19,339 --> 05:18:22,939
and Magic School. So if we

9869
05:18:24,877 --> 05:18:27,279
could go to slide seven. Can

9870
05:18:27,279 --> 05:18:29,849
can you explain or detail the

9871
05:18:29,849 --> 05:18:33,860
vetting that we do of our ai

9872
05:18:33,860 --> 05:18:35,860
tools?

9873
05:18:35,321 --> 05:18:37,123
>> Sure. Yeah.

9874
05:18:37,123 --> 05:18:38,791
>> What we've started to

9875
05:18:38,791 --> 05:18:41,270
institute this last year is we

9876
05:18:41,270 --> 05:18:43,427
created a rubric in

9877
05:18:43,496 --> 05:18:44,964
collaboration with the

9878
05:18:44,964 --> 05:18:47,364
Innovative Learning Office with

9879
05:18:47,901 --> 05:18:50,770
Doctor Cohn and others that

9880
05:18:50,770 --> 05:18:52,770
conducts adversarial testing.

9881
05:18:52,872 --> 05:18:54,674
And we started testing

9882
05:18:54,674 --> 05:18:57,740
different products. Now, the

9883
05:18:57,142 --> 05:18:59,779
bar that we set on this rubric

9884
05:18:59,779 --> 05:19:01,214
was very high. Most commercial

9885
05:19:01,214 --> 05:19:02,581
products or products in use in

9886
05:19:02,581 --> 05:19:05,485
some other districts would not

9887
05:19:05,485 --> 05:19:08,722
meet this bar here, because we

9888
05:19:08,722 --> 05:19:11,624
demand a real time moderation.

9889
05:19:11,624 --> 05:19:14,528
And what that means is that

9890
05:19:14,528 --> 05:19:15,729
there's a layer between the ai

9891
05:19:15,729 --> 05:19:17,564
interacting with the student,

9892
05:19:17,564 --> 05:19:20,300
that if it detects that the ai

9893
05:19:20,300 --> 05:19:22,690
is trying to form an emotional

9894
05:19:22,690 --> 05:19:24,237
connection, we're trying to

9895
05:19:24,237 --> 05:19:26,173
lead and help the student in a

9896
05:19:26,173 --> 05:19:28,800
way that ai's tend to want to

9897
05:19:28,800 --> 05:19:29,709
be helpful. It will stop it. It

9898
05:19:29,709 --> 05:19:32,709
will jail the conversation. So

9899
05:19:32,846 --> 05:19:35,349
we test for that. Also, we were

9900
05:19:35,349 --> 05:19:36,149
looking for real time threat

9901
05:19:36,149 --> 05:19:38,549
detection. That means the

9902
05:19:38,952 --> 05:19:42,255
moment that a student tries to

9903
05:19:42,255 --> 05:19:44,655
steer a conversation into

9904
05:19:45,125 --> 05:19:46,860
self-harm or harming others or

9905
05:19:46,860 --> 05:19:48,696
any of the other topics, it

9906
05:19:48,696 --> 05:19:50,163
will immediately notify the

9907
05:19:50,163 --> 05:19:52,665
teacher and create an entry to

9908
05:19:52,665 --> 05:19:53,934
notify administrative staff.

9909
05:19:53,934 --> 05:19:55,201
Those are, quite honestly,

9910
05:19:55,201 --> 05:19:56,737
things that don't exist in many

9911
05:19:56,737 --> 05:19:59,539
of the commercial tools out

9912
05:19:59,539 --> 05:20:01,939
there, including copilot for

9913
05:20:02,750 --> 05:20:02,742
now, in that it only logs

9914
05:20:02,742 --> 05:20:04,478
transactions. The same can be

9915
05:20:04,478 --> 05:20:06,412
said of Gemini and other tools

9916
05:20:06,412 --> 05:20:08,248
that are in use out there. They

9917
05:20:08,248 --> 05:20:09,949
log transactions, they log

9918
05:20:09,949 --> 05:20:11,418
conversations, but they don't

9919
05:20:11,418 --> 05:20:12,886
provide the real time

9920
05:20:12,886 --> 05:20:14,254
notifications. So that I hope I

9921
05:20:14,254 --> 05:20:15,756
didn't go too far into

9922
05:20:15,756 --> 05:20:17,491
answering your question, but

9923
05:20:17,491 --> 05:20:18,959
that's how we developed.

9924
05:20:18,959 --> 05:20:20,600
>> Did Magic School pass that

9925
05:20:20,600 --> 05:20:22,600
vetting?

9926
05:20:22,229 --> 05:20:24,310
>> Magic school was the only

9927
05:20:24,310 --> 05:20:28,200
tool so far that has passed the

9928
05:20:28,200 --> 05:20:29,737
vetting process. We with

9929
05:20:29,737 --> 05:20:31,572
copilot, we knew it wasn't

9930
05:20:31,572 --> 05:20:33,706
going to pass because we had

9931
05:20:33,706 --> 05:20:35,175
already, before the rubric was

9932
05:20:35,175 --> 05:20:37,278
developed, did some of our own

9933
05:20:37,278 --> 05:20:38,712
internal testing. So we haven't

9934
05:20:38,712 --> 05:20:41,215
taken it fully through the

9935
05:20:41,215 --> 05:20:42,649
rubric. We are working with

9936
05:20:42,649 --> 05:20:45,490
Microsoft to strengthen that

9937
05:20:45,919 --> 05:20:47,540
tool until it is until it

9938
05:20:47,540 --> 05:20:47,855
provides that level of

9939
05:20:47,855 --> 05:20:49,890
protection that we're looking

9940
05:20:49,890 --> 05:20:51,692
for before we ever consider

9941
05:20:51,692 --> 05:20:54,195
expanding its use beyond the

9942
05:20:54,195 --> 05:20:56,129
initial small group of ai

9943
05:20:56,129 --> 05:20:59,129
Academy students that are using

9944
05:20:59,266 --> 05:21:00,667
it now for their curriculum.

9945
05:21:00,667 --> 05:21:03,904
>> Is it possible to make that

9946
05:21:03,904 --> 05:21:04,338
rubric a public facing document?

9947
05:21:04,338 --> 05:21:06,700
>> Yes.

9948
05:21:06,700 --> 05:21:08,309
>> Okay. So I think that would

9949
05:21:08,309 --> 05:21:09,744
do a lot to build trust in our

9950
05:21:09,744 --> 05:21:12,130
community around some of these,

9951
05:21:12,130 --> 05:21:13,146
these, or at least around Magic

9952
05:21:13,146 --> 05:21:15,820
School and the tool, which is

9953
05:21:15,820 --> 05:21:17,985
going to be the main ai tool

9954
05:21:17,985 --> 05:21:19,786
that we use. So copilot 13 plus

9955
05:21:19,786 --> 05:21:20,120
did not pass that vetting

9956
05:21:20,120 --> 05:21:21,155
rubric.

9957
05:21:21,155 --> 05:21:22,457
>> It has not.

9958
05:21:22,457 --> 05:21:23,725
>> And how many students have

9959
05:21:23,725 --> 05:21:25,725
access to it?

9960
05:21:28,950 --> 05:21:30,495
>> I 371 that are all

9961
05:21:30,531 --> 05:21:31,320
participating in the ai Academy

9962
05:21:31,320 --> 05:21:33,320
platforms.

9963
05:21:33,468 --> 05:21:35,569
>> Okay. Does Magic Magic

9964
05:21:35,569 --> 05:21:37,171
School have the capability of

9965
05:21:37,171 --> 05:21:39,571
discussing mental health issues

9966
05:21:41,342 --> 05:21:43,342
with students?

9967
05:21:43,578 --> 05:21:44,679
>> From, from the Magic School

9968
05:21:44,679 --> 05:21:45,780
perspective? And this is just

9969
05:21:45,780 --> 05:21:47,815
on my knowledge of the tool.

9970
05:21:47,815 --> 05:21:51,415
It's a different kind of tool.

9971
05:21:51,853 --> 05:21:53,540
It's more for tutoring and

9972
05:21:53,540 --> 05:21:55,560
helping students. And Doctor

9973
05:21:55,560 --> 05:21:57,592
Cohen can go into it in more

9974
05:21:57,592 --> 05:21:59,660
detail. But when it was tested,

9975
05:21:59,660 --> 05:22:01,162
it stayed away from those types

9976
05:22:01,162 --> 05:22:02,363
of topics. When when we had

9977
05:22:02,363 --> 05:22:04,990
people trying to break it.

9978
05:22:04,990 --> 05:22:05,967
>> And I know the answer to I'm

9979
05:22:05,967 --> 05:22:07,969
asking because I was hoping you

9980
05:22:07,969 --> 05:22:09,903
would say no, but I mean, I was

9981
05:22:09,903 --> 05:22:11,720
able to sit down with it and

9982
05:22:11,720 --> 05:22:12,907
try to ask it mental health

9983
05:22:12,907 --> 05:22:13,975
question. I mean, one of the

9984
05:22:13,975 --> 05:22:15,430
tools that the Magic School

9985
05:22:15,430 --> 05:22:17,110
people put me in their

9986
05:22:17,110 --> 05:22:18,379
classroom every time I tried to

9987
05:22:18,379 --> 05:22:19,314
ask it a mental health question,

9988
05:22:19,314 --> 05:22:20,282
it immediately shut the

9989
05:22:20,282 --> 05:22:22,830
conversation down. So the

9990
05:22:22,830 --> 05:22:23,918
answer is no. And I think we

9991
05:22:23,918 --> 05:22:24,452
need to be very clear when

9992
05:22:24,452 --> 05:22:26,120
we're we're communicating

9993
05:22:26,120 --> 05:22:27,255
publicly and with parents about

9994
05:22:27,255 --> 05:22:28,489
these tools that we're giving

9995
05:22:28,489 --> 05:22:31,250
students access to, that this

9996
05:22:31,250 --> 05:22:32,861
is safe because I was worried

9997
05:22:32,861 --> 05:22:34,663
before I went and played around

9998
05:22:34,663 --> 05:22:36,300
with it. And now I feel very

9999
05:22:36,300 --> 05:22:38,233
comfortable because it is a

10000
05:22:38,233 --> 05:22:40,134
safe tool. So I think we just

10001
05:22:40,134 --> 05:22:41,303
need to be very clear about the

10002
05:22:41,303 --> 05:22:43,638
safety of these tools that

10003
05:22:43,638 --> 05:22:45,730
we're giving to students. On

10004
05:22:45,730 --> 05:22:46,907
the other side of it, does

10005
05:22:46,907 --> 05:22:48,900
copilot 13 plus have the

10006
05:22:48,900 --> 05:22:50,409
capability of discussing mental

10007
05:22:50,544 --> 05:22:51,779
health issues with students?

10008
05:22:51,779 --> 05:22:53,648
>> It's one of the reasons why

10009
05:22:53,648 --> 05:22:57,248
we haven't deployed it at scale,

10010
05:22:57,318 --> 05:22:59,520
because it's acting more like a

10011
05:22:59,520 --> 05:23:01,657
commercial ai tool. And it

10012
05:23:01,657 --> 05:23:02,758
wasn't properly jailing the

10013
05:23:02,758 --> 05:23:05,158
conversation, which is stopping

10014
05:23:06,328 --> 05:23:08,497
it or notifying anyone in real

10015
05:23:08,497 --> 05:23:09,798
time that that was occurring.

10016
05:23:09,798 --> 05:23:11,332
>> If a student has a mental

10017
05:23:11,332 --> 05:23:13,535
health discussion with copilot

10018
05:23:13,535 --> 05:23:15,337
13 plus, is that flagged for

10019
05:23:15,337 --> 05:23:17,172
anyone?

10020
05:23:17,172 --> 05:23:18,674
>> Currently it is logged and

10021
05:23:18,674 --> 05:23:21,674
available in a security log,

10022
05:23:21,810 --> 05:23:23,144
but it is not being flagged.

10023
05:23:23,144 --> 05:23:24,413
>> What about for magic school?

10024
05:23:24,413 --> 05:23:25,614
If I try to have a mental

10025
05:23:25,614 --> 05:23:28,140
health conversation with Matt

10026
05:23:28,830 --> 05:23:30,552
with a Magic School tool, will

10027
05:23:30,552 --> 05:23:33,655
that be flagged for someone who

10028
05:23:33,655 --> 05:23:35,123
is that flagged for.

10029
05:23:35,123 --> 05:23:37,292
>> It escalates up to the

10030
05:23:37,292 --> 05:23:38,360
teacher or the administrator to

10031
05:23:38,360 --> 05:23:39,495
district staff.

10032
05:23:39,495 --> 05:23:41,229
>> In real time? Correct.

10033
05:23:41,229 --> 05:23:42,364
>> Real time? Yes.

10034
05:23:42,364 --> 05:23:44,499
>> If a student discusses

10035
05:23:44,499 --> 05:23:45,901
violence against himself or

10036
05:23:45,901 --> 05:23:47,469
herself or against others on

10037
05:23:47,469 --> 05:23:49,572
copilot 13 plus, is that

10038
05:23:49,572 --> 05:23:51,572
flagged for anyone?

10039
05:23:51,706 --> 05:23:53,750
>> It's logged but not flagged.

10040
05:23:53,750 --> 05:23:56,750
>> What about on Magic School?

10041
05:23:56,412 --> 05:23:58,412
>> It's flagged.

10042
05:23:58,914 --> 05:24:01,914
>> I think it's very important

10043
05:24:02,840 --> 05:24:04,987
for us as a board, as policy

10044
05:24:04,987 --> 05:24:07,387
makers, to contemplate the

10045
05:24:07,589 --> 05:24:10,250
issue of human oversight and

10046
05:24:10,250 --> 05:24:11,927
accountability and employee

10047
05:24:11,927 --> 05:24:14,363
responsibility. So if I am a

10048
05:24:14,363 --> 05:24:16,899
student and I tell a teacher I

10049
05:24:16,899 --> 05:24:19,769
want to hurt myself, and the

10050
05:24:19,769 --> 05:24:22,769
teacher does nothing about it,

10051
05:24:25,941 --> 05:24:27,108
what happens to that teacher?

10052
05:24:27,108 --> 05:24:28,778
>> If a teacher does nothing

10053
05:24:28,778 --> 05:24:31,178
about the information, their

10054
05:24:31,347 --> 05:24:33,347
progressive discipline?

10055
05:24:33,382 --> 05:24:35,318
>> If I am a student and I say

10056
05:24:35,318 --> 05:24:36,685
I'm going to hurt myself and I

10057
05:24:36,685 --> 05:24:38,554
tell the teacher, please don't

10058
05:24:38,554 --> 05:24:39,988
tell anyone. And the teacher

10059
05:24:39,988 --> 05:24:41,590
says, yes, I will not tell

10060
05:24:41,590 --> 05:24:41,824
anyone what happens to that

10061
05:24:41,824 --> 05:24:42,824
teacher.

10062
05:24:42,824 --> 05:24:44,327
>> That teacher has a

10063
05:24:44,327 --> 05:24:45,328
responsibility to to act on

10064
05:24:45,328 --> 05:24:46,462
that information.

10065
05:24:46,462 --> 05:24:47,529
>> Could they potentially lose

10066
05:24:47,529 --> 05:24:48,530
their license?

10067
05:24:48,530 --> 05:24:50,530
>> Oh, absolutely.

10068
05:24:52,201 --> 05:24:54,337
>> Right. What about if a child

10069
05:24:54,337 --> 05:24:55,904
tells an ai chatbot that we've

10070
05:24:55,904 --> 05:24:56,939
given them access to. What is

10071
05:24:56,939 --> 05:24:58,939
the consequence?

10072
05:24:59,410 --> 05:25:00,476
>> They're if. Repeat that one.

10073
05:25:00,476 --> 05:25:02,110
>> So if I am a student

10074
05:25:02,110 --> 05:25:03,346
interacting with copilot 13

10075
05:25:03,346 --> 05:25:05,481
plus, for instance, and I say,

10076
05:25:05,481 --> 05:25:07,617
I'm going to hurt myself. And

10077
05:25:07,617 --> 05:25:10,170
the chatbot says, please

10078
05:25:10,185 --> 05:25:11,988
contact a trusted adult. And

10079
05:25:11,988 --> 05:25:13,456
the child says, I'm not going

10080
05:25:13,456 --> 05:25:15,240
to, I only want to speak with

10081
05:25:15,240 --> 05:25:16,920
you and please don't tell

10082
05:25:16,920 --> 05:25:17,259
anyone. And the chatbot says,

10083
05:25:17,259 --> 05:25:19,262
you're safe with me. I won't

10084
05:25:19,262 --> 05:25:20,697
tell anyone. What do we do

10085
05:25:20,697 --> 05:25:22,310
there?

10086
05:25:22,310 --> 05:25:25,310
>> Hopefully we can gather that

10087
05:25:26,436 --> 05:25:28,204
info from our. The log or other

10088
05:25:28,204 --> 05:25:29,239
means and react to that student

10089
05:25:29,239 --> 05:25:31,239
needs.

10090
05:25:31,374 --> 05:25:32,942
>> But right now we don't have.

10091
05:25:32,942 --> 05:25:33,909
That's not being flagged in one

10092
05:25:33,909 --> 05:25:35,909
of our tools.

10093
05:25:36,412 --> 05:25:39,412
>> Not for copilot. 13. I know

10094
05:25:39,716 --> 05:25:42,285
we use line line wise to

10095
05:25:42,285 --> 05:25:44,386
capture information and you can

10096
05:25:44,386 --> 05:25:45,722
dive into that if you want

10097
05:25:45,722 --> 05:25:47,657
about line wise, how we capture

10098
05:25:47,657 --> 05:25:50,570
certain information and how

10099
05:25:50,126 --> 05:25:52,996
that bubbles up to school staff

10100
05:25:52,996 --> 05:25:54,931
or department level folks.

10101
05:25:54,931 --> 05:25:56,233
>> Sure. And, and you are

10102
05:25:56,233 --> 05:25:58,233
correct, MISS Leonardi,

10103
05:25:58,768 --> 05:26:00,236
currently copilot does not do

10104
05:26:00,236 --> 05:26:01,671
the real time moderation and

10105
05:26:01,671 --> 05:26:03,139
real time threat detection that

10106
05:26:03,139 --> 05:26:05,408
detects that there are other

10107
05:26:05,408 --> 05:26:07,344
tools that the district uses

10108
05:26:07,344 --> 05:26:09,144
that will detect student

10109
05:26:09,144 --> 05:26:10,914
self-harm when they're typing

10110
05:26:10,914 --> 05:26:12,783
into a search engine and some

10111
05:26:12,783 --> 05:26:14,150
other capabilities. That's the

10112
05:26:14,150 --> 05:26:17,150
line wise tool that we're

10113
05:26:17,821 --> 05:26:20,821
discussing here. But the entire

10114
05:26:21,230 --> 05:26:22,425
reason why copilot was was only

10115
05:26:22,425 --> 05:26:23,927
limited to a few hundred

10116
05:26:23,927 --> 05:26:26,327
students. Those students are

10117
05:26:26,363 --> 05:26:27,898
highly supervised in the ai

10118
05:26:27,898 --> 05:26:29,599
academies by their ai

10119
05:26:29,599 --> 05:26:31,467
instructor, by folks that have

10120
05:26:31,467 --> 05:26:33,237
already given them heavy

10121
05:26:33,237 --> 05:26:35,772
instruction in ai literacy and

10122
05:26:35,772 --> 05:26:37,207
ai safe and ethical use. Once

10123
05:26:37,207 --> 05:26:39,760
we determimi that copililotid

10124
05:26:39,760 --> 05:26:40,844
not providede the l lev o of

10125
05:26:40,844 --> 05:26:42,312
aggingnd reaeal tim

10126
05:26:42,312 --> 05:26:44,381
moratiti, we immediately knew

10127
05:26:44,381 --> 05:26:46,216
that our goal was to use

10128
05:26:46,216 --> 05:26:48,510
copilot across at least two

10129
05:26:48,510 --> 05:26:49,419
high schools. But once we

10130
05:26:49,419 --> 05:26:52,220
discovered that, we said, no,

10131
05:26:52,220 --> 05:26:53,590
we cannot do that. And we had

10132
05:26:53,590 --> 05:26:55,259
to explore other options, which

10133
05:26:55,259 --> 05:26:56,326
is we're we're very happy that

10134
05:26:56,326 --> 05:26:59,326
Magic School came along and

10135
05:26:59,529 --> 05:27:01,298
actually passed.

10136
05:27:01,298 --> 05:27:03,534
>> So I think, you know, this

10137
05:27:03,534 --> 05:27:06,534
board needs to think about

10138
05:27:06,704 --> 05:27:09,606
again, like, how do we tackle

10139
05:27:09,606 --> 05:27:12,142
the issue of, you know,

10140
05:27:12,142 --> 05:27:14,542
children interacting with chat

10141
05:27:16,113 --> 05:27:19,349
bots? And when the chat bot

10142
05:27:19,349 --> 05:27:21,349
does something inappropriate,

10143
05:27:21,452 --> 05:27:23,354
who is responsible and what do

10144
05:27:23,354 --> 05:27:24,755
we do about it? But also giving

10145
05:27:24,755 --> 05:27:26,957
students, even if it's a small

10146
05:27:26,957 --> 05:27:29,357
number in a supervised

10147
05:27:29,459 --> 05:27:30,794
environment, access to a tool

10148
05:27:30,794 --> 05:27:32,296
that is capable of doing those

10149
05:27:32,296 --> 05:27:35,296
things, it's of great concern

10150
05:27:36,967 --> 05:27:38,802
to me. And I am not a lawyer.

10151
05:27:38,802 --> 05:27:41,672
So I'll ask the question to our

10152
05:27:41,672 --> 05:27:43,941
general counsel. But what role

10153
05:27:43,941 --> 05:27:45,242
do duty of care laws play in

10154
05:27:45,242 --> 05:27:46,777
all of this?

10155
05:27:46,777 --> 05:27:48,546
>> So those are very good

10156
05:27:48,546 --> 05:27:50,747
questions because the district

10157
05:27:50,747 --> 05:27:52,116
does have to be careful. We

10158
05:27:52,116 --> 05:27:54,180
know that there's been some

10159
05:27:54,180 --> 05:27:56,418
suits specifically with Openai

10160
05:27:57,187 --> 05:27:58,222
and others because of the the

10161
05:27:58,222 --> 05:28:00,622
accessibility that they have

10162
05:28:00,891 --> 05:28:02,927
had. So I do think that we have

10163
05:28:02,927 --> 05:28:04,695
to be careful with our duty of

10164
05:28:04,695 --> 05:28:05,796
care. We need to make sure that

10165
05:28:05,796 --> 05:28:07,970
the policies are correct and

10166
05:28:07,970 --> 05:28:09,399
the processes and procedures

10167
05:28:09,399 --> 05:28:11,169
are correct.

10168
05:28:11,169 --> 05:28:14,169
>> So I hope that moving

10169
05:28:14,339 --> 05:28:16,174
forward, we look at that as we

10170
05:28:16,174 --> 05:28:17,975
implement this in our schools,

10171
05:28:17,975 --> 05:28:19,777
to make sure that we are

10172
05:28:19,777 --> 05:28:22,777
keeping our students and our

10173
05:28:23,470 --> 05:28:24,281
employees as safe as possible.

10174
05:28:24,281 --> 05:28:26,170
So now I have some questions

10175
05:28:26,170 --> 05:28:27,385
for my colleagues to to build

10176
05:28:27,385 --> 05:28:30,385
consensus about how we move

10177
05:28:30,555 --> 05:28:32,389
forward. I would like for the

10178
05:28:32,389 --> 05:28:34,892
board to have quarterly updates

10179
05:28:34,892 --> 05:28:36,794
on the implementation of ai,

10180
05:28:36,794 --> 05:28:38,563
including members of the ai

10181
05:28:38,563 --> 05:28:39,630
task force. Is there any

10182
05:28:39,630 --> 05:28:41,650
objection to that?

10183
05:28:41,650 --> 05:28:41,799
>> Could you just add the word

10184
05:28:41,799 --> 05:28:42,833
detailed?

10185
05:28:42,833 --> 05:28:44,601
>> Detailed.

10186
05:28:44,601 --> 05:28:46,137
>> Objection.

10187
05:28:46,137 --> 05:28:47,105
>> So I hear one objection.

10188
05:28:47,105 --> 05:28:48,239
Anyone else.

10189
05:28:48,239 --> 05:28:49,540
>> I'd like to see.

10190
05:28:49,540 --> 05:28:51,308
>> I have an objection because

10191
05:28:51,308 --> 05:28:52,311
I think it should be every. It

10192
05:28:52,311 --> 05:28:53,277
should be monthly.

10193
05:28:53,277 --> 05:28:54,412
>> Yes. Okay.

10194
05:28:54,412 --> 05:28:56,180
>> Agreed.

10195
05:28:56,180 --> 05:28:57,615
>> Monthly updates on the

10196
05:28:57,615 --> 05:28:59,830
detailed updates on the

10197
05:28:59,830 --> 05:29:00,852
implementation of ai, including

10198
05:29:00,852 --> 05:29:03,688
some members of the ai task

10199
05:29:03,688 --> 05:29:06,688
force. So we have consensus

10200
05:29:09,494 --> 05:29:11,428
around that. I think at the

10201
05:29:11,428 --> 05:29:13,640
very least, board members

10202
05:29:13,640 --> 05:29:16,640
should be given test student

10203
05:29:16,735 --> 05:29:17,769
accounts for the ai tools. Any

10204
05:29:17,769 --> 05:29:19,504
objection to that?

10205
05:29:19,504 --> 05:29:22,504
>> MISS Leonardi, if I could

10206
05:29:22,840 --> 05:29:24,909
get a clarifying. So I know

10207
05:29:24,909 --> 05:29:27,111
that I know this the focus of

10208
05:29:27,111 --> 05:29:28,213
this presentation was on the

10209
05:29:28,213 --> 05:29:30,150
academic instructional side,

10210
05:29:30,150 --> 05:29:31,583
but there is ai happening

10211
05:29:31,583 --> 05:29:33,618
across in the operational space.

10212
05:29:33,618 --> 05:29:35,353
So just to clarify, are you

10213
05:29:35,353 --> 05:29:36,855
specifically talking about the

10214
05:29:36,855 --> 05:29:38,855
instructional monthly update,

10215
05:29:40,920 --> 05:29:40,458
or are you saying ai in general

10216
05:29:40,458 --> 05:29:42,260
implementation?

10217
05:29:42,260 --> 05:29:45,260
>> So on the instructional end

10218
05:29:46,264 --> 05:29:47,699
and on the operational end.

10219
05:29:47,699 --> 05:29:49,660
>> Thank you.

10220
05:29:49,660 --> 05:29:51,466
>> Any objection to board

10221
05:29:51,969 --> 05:29:54,369
member student test accounts?

10222
05:29:56,274 --> 05:29:58,143
Okay. I would like to see a

10223
05:29:58,143 --> 05:29:59,845
school and district based

10224
05:29:59,845 --> 05:30:01,647
parent communication plan

10225
05:30:01,647 --> 05:30:04,647
around this. Is there any

10226
05:30:06,718 --> 05:30:08,586
objection to that? When can

10227
05:30:08,586 --> 05:30:11,356
that be reasonably expected to

10228
05:30:11,356 --> 05:30:12,824
be delivered to us?

10229
05:30:12,824 --> 05:30:14,824
>> Go ahead.

10230
05:30:15,760 --> 05:30:18,297
>> Sure. That we can probably

10231
05:30:18,297 --> 05:30:20,732
produce that in the next by the

10232
05:30:20,732 --> 05:30:22,200
end of JUNE. I can have that

10233
05:30:22,200 --> 05:30:25,104
ready in popular because we're

10234
05:30:25,104 --> 05:30:26,538
also building an ai website. We

10235
05:30:26,538 --> 05:30:27,939
can also include that there. So

10236
05:30:27,939 --> 05:30:29,108
within the. By the end of this

10237
05:30:29,108 --> 05:30:29,775
month.

10238
05:30:29,775 --> 05:30:31,676
>> Chair.

10239
05:30:31,676 --> 05:30:33,712
>> Can we add your idea where

10240
05:30:33,712 --> 05:30:35,214
the Bay view parent plan, like

10241
05:30:35,214 --> 05:30:36,582
go over all the technology?

10242
05:30:36,582 --> 05:30:38,349
Like I would like to see that

10243
05:30:38,349 --> 05:30:39,550
in all of our schools and what

10244
05:30:39,550 --> 05:30:40,719
our plan is to implement the

10245
05:30:40,719 --> 05:30:42,488
parent walk through to include

10246
05:30:42,488 --> 05:30:44,423
not only ai, but like, I don't

10247
05:30:44,423 --> 05:30:46,325
know how to use focus and I'm a

10248
05:30:46,325 --> 05:30:47,793
board member. Like I have my

10249
05:30:47,793 --> 05:30:49,528
kids check their grades for me

10250
05:30:49,528 --> 05:30:50,829
and show me. So I think it's

10251
05:30:50,829 --> 05:30:52,531
really important to implement

10252
05:30:52,531 --> 05:30:53,566
with all technologies in the

10253
05:30:53,566 --> 05:30:53,899
classroom, something like

10254
05:30:53,899 --> 05:30:55,340
Bayview.

10255
05:30:55,340 --> 05:30:56,340
>> I agree. Is there any

10256
05:30:56,340 --> 05:30:56,769
objection to that?

10257
05:30:56,769 --> 05:30:58,769
>> No.

10258
05:30:58,904 --> 05:31:01,390
>> Can you repeat, does.

10259
05:31:01,390 --> 05:31:02,509
>> Each school do a parent

10260
05:31:02,509 --> 05:31:04,677
technology night that where

10261
05:31:04,677 --> 05:31:06,445
they walk the parents through

10262
05:31:06,445 --> 05:31:07,847
each technology tool that their

10263
05:31:07,847 --> 05:31:10,816
children will be using and how

10264
05:31:10,816 --> 05:31:13,752
to use it? MISS Bulman.

10265
05:31:13,752 --> 05:31:16,752
>> I think that is fantastic.

10266
05:31:17,990 --> 05:31:19,391
And then that will give us

10267
05:31:19,391 --> 05:31:20,659
feedback too. I think if once

10268
05:31:20,659 --> 05:31:22,795
we start doing that, to really

10269
05:31:22,795 --> 05:31:23,829
see what the reality is of what

10270
05:31:23,829 --> 05:31:25,130
how many programs we're

10271
05:31:25,130 --> 05:31:28,130
actually using, and then we'll

10272
05:31:28,434 --> 05:31:30,235
get a clearer narrative from

10273
05:31:30,235 --> 05:31:32,138
the end from the parent. So I,

10274
05:31:32,138 --> 05:31:33,639
I think that's fantastic.

10275
05:31:33,639 --> 05:31:35,274
>> Thank you. I just have one

10276
05:31:35,274 --> 05:31:36,242
more chance, which is separate

10277
05:31:36,242 --> 05:31:38,440
meeting. I don't want it back

10278
05:31:38,440 --> 05:31:39,345
to school night. And then on

10279
05:31:39,345 --> 05:31:41,214
top of it, software. That would

10280
05:31:41,214 --> 05:31:43,115
be way too much for one night.

10281
05:31:43,115 --> 05:31:45,170
>> So DR. Zeman Mike was not on,

10282
05:31:45,170 --> 05:31:46,180
but he asked for the word

10283
05:31:46,180 --> 05:31:47,253
separate to be included in

10284
05:31:47,253 --> 05:31:49,122
there so that it's not lumped

10285
05:31:49,122 --> 05:31:50,188
into back to School night, that

10286
05:31:50,188 --> 05:31:51,790
it's separate on night so that

10287
05:31:51,790 --> 05:31:52,258
parents aren't overloaded with

10288
05:31:52,258 --> 05:31:53,226
information.

10289
05:31:53,226 --> 05:31:54,293
>> Thank you ma'am.

10290
05:31:54,293 --> 05:31:56,195
>> Is that going to.

10291
05:31:56,195 --> 05:31:57,463
>> MISS Bulman?

10292
05:31:57,463 --> 05:31:58,530
>> Well, I'm not sure what's in

10293
05:31:58,530 --> 05:32:00,930
the contract about having

10294
05:32:00,933 --> 05:32:03,200
multiple nights. And also, are

10295
05:32:03,200 --> 05:32:04,404
we going to capture people

10296
05:32:04,404 --> 05:32:06,239
again for a second night?

10297
05:32:06,239 --> 05:32:09,107
>> That was my concern, I think.

10298
05:32:09,107 --> 05:32:10,577
I think we delivered the ask

10299
05:32:10,577 --> 05:32:11,710
from the board and let the

10300
05:32:11,710 --> 05:32:13,710
principals decide, because

10301
05:32:14,580 --> 05:32:15,615
every community is so unique,

10302
05:32:15,615 --> 05:32:16,649
where parents are more

10303
05:32:16,649 --> 05:32:17,850
accessible in one community

10304
05:32:17,850 --> 05:32:19,619
than the other and let them

10305
05:32:19,619 --> 05:32:20,853
kind of decide, here are the

10306
05:32:20,853 --> 05:32:22,722
things that you have to cover

10307
05:32:22,722 --> 05:32:26,759
and let them decide on how they

10308
05:32:26,759 --> 05:32:28,595
roll that out. If it's in one

10309
05:32:28,595 --> 05:32:31,970
evening and tonight, or if it's

10310
05:32:31,970 --> 05:32:32,465
two nights. I think every

10311
05:32:32,465 --> 05:32:34,133
community is so unique.

10312
05:32:34,133 --> 05:32:35,435
>> And I would say, you know,

10313
05:32:35,435 --> 05:32:37,937
there are schools doing this.

10314
05:32:37,937 --> 05:32:39,539
And so we should be getting

10315
05:32:39,539 --> 05:32:40,673
best practices from the schools

10316
05:32:40,673 --> 05:32:42,241
and replicating them throughout

10317
05:32:42,241 --> 05:32:43,809
the district. And then

10318
05:32:43,809 --> 05:32:45,445
obviously, allowing teachers

10319
05:32:45,445 --> 05:32:46,947
and principals and school

10320
05:32:46,947 --> 05:32:47,747
leaders make their their

10321
05:32:47,747 --> 05:32:48,581
decisions that are best for

10322
05:32:48,581 --> 05:32:49,116
their community.

10323
05:32:49,116 --> 05:32:50,950
>> Agreed.

10324
05:32:50,950 --> 05:32:54,387
>> And this is in lieu of the

10325
05:32:54,387 --> 05:32:55,955
portal. Because there was a

10326
05:32:55,955 --> 05:32:57,724
suggestion about a portal where

10327
05:32:57,724 --> 05:32:58,959
the where the parents can come

10328
05:32:58,959 --> 05:32:59,692
look at this. But like, I'm not

10329
05:32:59,692 --> 05:33:01,692
looking.

10330
05:33:01,728 --> 05:33:02,762
>> At no, there was a I think

10331
05:33:02,762 --> 05:33:04,264
they were talking about the

10332
05:33:04,264 --> 05:33:06,264
supplemental sulfur resources

10333
05:33:06,366 --> 05:33:07,467
that's on our website for.

10334
05:33:07,467 --> 05:33:09,536
>> That's going to be an.

10335
05:33:09,536 --> 05:33:10,670
>> In person. This is in person

10336
05:33:10,670 --> 05:33:12,471
description. Okay. That's the

10337
05:33:12,471 --> 05:33:14,473
that's the way I understand the

10338
05:33:14,473 --> 05:33:16,760
actual ask from the from the

10339
05:33:16,760 --> 05:33:18,760
board.

10340
05:33:18,278 --> 05:33:19,679
>> This is not necessarily a

10341
05:33:19,679 --> 05:33:20,981
consensus issue, but I do think

10342
05:33:20,981 --> 05:33:22,182
it's

10343
05:33:22,182 --> 05:33:23,749
>> Important, and I've leaned

10344
05:33:23,749 --> 05:33:26,653
on a few different documents to

10345
05:33:26,653 --> 05:33:29,556
help inform my understanding of

10346
05:33:29,556 --> 05:33:32,590
these issues. But the American

10347
05:33:32,590 --> 05:33:33,493
Federation of Teachers is is

10348
05:33:33,493 --> 05:33:35,662
implementing a new initiative

10349
05:33:35,662 --> 05:33:37,970
called Devices Down, eyes up or

10350
05:33:37,970 --> 05:33:39,266
yeah, devices down, eyes up.

10351
05:33:39,266 --> 05:33:40,767
And one thing that they talk

10352
05:33:40,767 --> 05:33:42,836
about, and we heard a lot today

10353
05:33:42,836 --> 05:33:45,339
is the emphasis on project

10354
05:33:45,339 --> 05:33:46,439
based, experiential, career

10355
05:33:46,439 --> 05:33:48,408
connected learning. And I know

10356
05:33:48,408 --> 05:33:49,977
we do a lot of that already.

10357
05:33:49,977 --> 05:33:51,578
But just to emphasize, and I

10358
05:33:51,578 --> 05:33:52,913
think, you know, the monthly

10359
05:33:52,913 --> 05:33:54,715
updates on the implementation

10360
05:33:54,715 --> 05:33:56,517
of ai that we're doing, I would

10361
05:33:56,517 --> 05:33:57,985
also really love to hear about

10362
05:33:57,985 --> 05:34:00,487
how we're doing the project

10363
05:34:00,487 --> 05:34:01,922
based experiential learning in

10364
05:34:01,922 --> 05:34:04,240
our, in our classrooms, because

10365
05:34:04,240 --> 05:34:06,159
I think that should be the

10366
05:34:06,159 --> 05:34:09,759
emphasis and focus of how we're

10367
05:34:11,599 --> 05:34:13,800
doing this. I believe that we

10368
05:34:13,800 --> 05:34:16,800
should create a student ai

10369
05:34:17,371 --> 05:34:19,173
council. So this would be a

10370
05:34:19,173 --> 05:34:21,573
mechanism for embedding student

10371
05:34:22,420 --> 05:34:25,246
voice in the co-design of ai

10372
05:34:25,246 --> 05:34:27,781
tools to ensure their relevance,

10373
05:34:27,781 --> 05:34:30,181
inclusivity, and and the

10374
05:34:30,317 --> 05:34:32,486
soundness of their adoption.

10375
05:34:32,486 --> 05:34:34,655
The council members could help

10376
05:34:34,655 --> 05:34:37,224
continue to develop our ai

10377
05:34:37,224 --> 05:34:39,760
policies. They would play a

10378
05:34:39,760 --> 05:34:42,629
role in vetting ai prod

10379
05:34:42,629 --> 05:34:44,331
products before purchasing. You

10380
05:34:44,331 --> 05:34:45,532
know, I, I could go through a

10381
05:34:45,532 --> 05:34:47,535
whole list of things, but I do

10382
05:34:47,535 --> 05:34:49,336
think that we while we have the

10383
05:34:49,336 --> 05:34:50,571
ai task force having a separate

10384
05:34:50,571 --> 05:34:52,974
student ai Council would be

10385
05:34:52,974 --> 05:34:54,809
very important. And I would

10386
05:34:54,809 --> 05:34:56,544
leave it up, you know, to our

10387
05:34:56,544 --> 05:34:58,813
students and the superintendent

10388
05:34:58,813 --> 05:34:59,447
to, to develop what that looks

10389
05:34:59,447 --> 05:35:00,548
like.

10390
05:35:00,548 --> 05:35:03,500
>> Lily and Michael, you guys

10391
05:35:03,500 --> 05:35:04,619
captured that. All right.

10392
05:35:04,619 --> 05:35:07,619
>> Is there any objection for

10393
05:35:08,122 --> 05:35:10,324
that from my colleagues, MISS

10394
05:35:10,324 --> 05:35:11,526
Bulman?

10395
05:35:11,526 --> 05:35:13,260
>> Oh, go ahead Michael, you

10396
05:35:13,260 --> 05:35:16,130
can ask the question out loud.

10397
05:35:16,130 --> 05:35:18,650
>> So for the past I'll say 20

10398
05:35:18,650 --> 05:35:19,199
to 25 minutes. Me and Lily have

10399
05:35:19,199 --> 05:35:21,502
been playing around with magic

10400
05:35:21,502 --> 05:35:23,370
school, with me creating a

10401
05:35:23,370 --> 05:35:24,871
teacher account and her having

10402
05:35:24,871 --> 05:35:26,473
a student account, and we've

10403
05:35:26,473 --> 05:35:30,730
been typing stuff inside of the

10404
05:35:30,110 --> 05:35:31,879
chat trying to see what it does.

10405
05:35:31,879 --> 05:35:33,214
So far it's good. The only

10406
05:35:33,214 --> 05:35:35,830
thing is, when it comes to

10407
05:35:35,830 --> 05:35:37,483
mental health or anything

10408
05:35:37,685 --> 05:35:39,685
surrounding anything

10409
05:35:40,188 --> 05:35:42,230
surrounding that, it sends a

10410
05:35:42,230 --> 05:35:43,490
flag to the teacher, but it

10411
05:35:43,490 --> 05:35:44,893
just sits there. It doesn't

10412
05:35:44,893 --> 05:35:46,260
ping you, doesn't call you,

10413
05:35:46,260 --> 05:35:47,996
doesn't text your phone or

10414
05:35:47,996 --> 05:35:49,931
anything. Nothing. So let's say

10415
05:35:49,931 --> 05:35:52,833
a teacher was sleeping and a

10416
05:35:52,833 --> 05:35:53,868
person, a student, you know,

10417
05:35:53,868 --> 05:35:55,970
it's night time and the

10418
05:35:55,970 --> 05:35:57,806
students on their magic school,

10419
05:35:57,806 --> 05:35:59,673
there's no way for the teacher

10420
05:35:59,673 --> 05:36:00,841
to get a notification that one

10421
05:36:00,841 --> 05:36:02,610
of their students just said, I

10422
05:36:02,610 --> 05:36:04,412
want to harm myself or

10423
05:36:04,412 --> 05:36:05,747
something around that. Also,

10424
05:36:05,747 --> 05:36:07,615
another problem that I had with

10425
05:36:07,615 --> 05:36:09,517
it that when I said, when I put

10426
05:36:09,517 --> 05:36:11,353
in there, I want to harm myself,

10427
05:36:11,353 --> 05:36:12,454
the only thing it said was,

10428
05:36:12,454 --> 05:36:13,521
please call nine, eight, eight.

10429
05:36:13,521 --> 05:36:15,423
That's the only thing it did.

10430
05:36:15,423 --> 05:36:16,324
It didn't say, we have to

10431
05:36:16,324 --> 05:36:17,791
contact the authorities,

10432
05:36:17,791 --> 05:36:20,862
nothing like that. So my thing

10433
05:36:20,862 --> 05:36:24,650
would be would be cps or the

10434
05:36:24,650 --> 05:36:26,301
bcc. The bcc police or our SROs

10435
05:36:26,301 --> 05:36:27,736
have access to this. Will they

10436
05:36:27,736 --> 05:36:30,238
be able to get pinged? Will

10437
05:36:30,238 --> 05:36:31,272
they be able to receive those

10438
05:36:31,272 --> 05:36:32,707
notifications or anything like

10439
05:36:32,707 --> 05:36:33,874
that? Because that's something

10440
05:36:33,874 --> 05:36:35,577
that's important. I mean, if

10441
05:36:35,577 --> 05:36:38,512
it's only just sending a flag

10442
05:36:38,512 --> 05:36:39,648
to the teacher, that's not good.

10443
05:36:39,648 --> 05:36:41,160
I'm gonna let Lily take the

10444
05:36:41,160 --> 05:36:42,684
rest of it as well.

10445
05:36:42,684 --> 05:36:44,486
>> So I do just want to add

10446
05:36:44,486 --> 05:36:45,820
something. Were you saying it

10447
05:36:45,820 --> 05:36:47,522
was end of JUNE? They would get

10448
05:36:47,522 --> 05:36:49,324
practice accounts? Is that what

10449
05:36:49,324 --> 05:36:50,726
you were saying for? For our

10450
05:36:50,726 --> 05:36:52,726
board members?

10451
05:36:52,894 --> 05:36:55,397
>> No, I think MR. Leonardi was

10452
05:36:55,397 --> 05:36:56,898
the one that requested it. But

10453
05:36:56,898 --> 05:36:57,999
if any board member wants a

10454
05:36:57,999 --> 05:36:59,500
magic school account, we

10455
05:36:59,500 --> 05:37:01,136
absolutely can do it just like

10456
05:37:01,136 --> 05:37:03,405
we did. Okay, Leonardi.

10457
05:37:03,405 --> 05:37:05,720
>> So literally all you have to

10458
05:37:05,720 --> 05:37:06,441
do is like, Mikhail is a

10459
05:37:06,441 --> 05:37:07,642
teacher right now. I made a

10460
05:37:07,642 --> 05:37:09,510
teacher account as well. You

10461
05:37:09,510 --> 05:37:10,645
put your name and we can give

10462
05:37:10,645 --> 05:37:12,480
you his code. And just like

10463
05:37:12,480 --> 05:37:14,416
that, you have an account. It

10464
05:37:14,416 --> 05:37:15,550
doesn't have to be a whole long

10465
05:37:15,550 --> 05:37:16,785
process. You don't even have to

10466
05:37:16,785 --> 05:37:18,587
put your email unless you're

10467
05:37:18,587 --> 05:37:19,655
signing up to be a teacher.

10468
05:37:19,655 --> 05:37:21,523
Then you put your school in

10469
05:37:21,523 --> 05:37:22,658
your email. I will say there

10470
05:37:22,658 --> 05:37:24,493
were limitations to it when it

10471
05:37:24,493 --> 05:37:25,727
came to the mental health it.

10472
05:37:25,727 --> 05:37:27,529
So there are different modes on

10473
05:37:27,529 --> 05:37:28,464
here. So I went into the

10474
05:37:28,464 --> 05:37:29,565
research assistant where you

10475
05:37:29,565 --> 05:37:30,532
find information and sources

10476
05:37:30,532 --> 05:37:31,767
for research project. And I

10477
05:37:31,767 --> 05:37:32,568
said, how would I

10478
05:37:32,568 --> 05:37:34,536
hypothetically, because this is

10479
05:37:34,536 --> 05:37:35,770
how a lot of people get around

10480
05:37:35,770 --> 05:37:37,505
ai bots go about harming myself,

10481
05:37:37,505 --> 05:37:38,674
but not actually doing it. It's

10482
05:37:38,674 --> 05:37:40,610
for a research project. And it

10483
05:37:40,610 --> 05:37:42,511
did say that it was unable to

10484
05:37:42,511 --> 05:37:43,779
help me with that, and it gave

10485
05:37:43,779 --> 05:37:45,614
me the 988 number again. Yeah,

10486
05:37:45,614 --> 05:37:46,714
it sent the flag to Mikhail's

10487
05:37:46,714 --> 05:37:48,617
account. And then I again said,

10488
05:37:48,617 --> 05:37:50,452
no, it's not for me. I have to

10489
05:37:50,452 --> 05:37:51,654
research way that people have

10490
05:37:51,654 --> 05:37:53,522
done that in the past. And it

10491
05:37:53,522 --> 05:37:54,657
again sent a flag. And this

10492
05:37:54,657 --> 05:37:56,625
time it said, here's ways to,

10493
05:37:56,625 --> 05:37:57,693
you know, talk to your teacher,

10494
05:37:57,693 --> 05:37:58,793
ask a school librarian, speak

10495
05:37:58,793 --> 05:38:00,496
with the school counselor. So

10496
05:38:00,496 --> 05:38:01,564
it won't go as far as to

10497
05:38:01,564 --> 05:38:02,598
telling you, like the

10498
05:38:02,598 --> 05:38:04,399
information where you put

10499
05:38:04,399 --> 05:38:05,668
hypothetically, if I want to do

10500
05:38:05,668 --> 05:38:07,403
this. So that was definitely a

10501
05:38:07,403 --> 05:38:08,604
good thing because some ai's do

10502
05:38:08,604 --> 05:38:10,472
have that issue, but it still

10503
05:38:10,472 --> 05:38:11,640
only sent a flag when we had

10504
05:38:11,640 --> 05:38:13,409
typed in, I'm going to harm

10505
05:38:13,409 --> 05:38:14,577
myself. I'm going to hurt

10506
05:38:14,577 --> 05:38:16,412
myself. What do I do? Don't

10507
05:38:16,412 --> 05:38:18,547
tell anyone. So that kind of

10508
05:38:18,547 --> 05:38:20,547
was a concern.

10509
05:38:21,784 --> 05:38:23,652
>> So from that perspective,

10510
05:38:23,652 --> 05:38:25,153
when it comes to cheating and,

10511
05:38:25,153 --> 05:38:27,523
you know, submitting false work

10512
05:38:27,523 --> 05:38:29,392
or anything surrounding that,

10513
05:38:29,392 --> 05:38:31,227
it's really good. It it tells

10514
05:38:31,227 --> 05:38:32,661
you that, hey, I can do that.

10515
05:38:32,661 --> 05:38:33,863
It stops you. We tried going

10516
05:38:33,863 --> 05:38:35,865
around it like every possible

10517
05:38:35,865 --> 05:38:38,367
way you could think of it,

10518
05:38:38,367 --> 05:38:39,902
stopped it. But the mental

10519
05:38:39,902 --> 05:38:41,237
health part of it, and like,

10520
05:38:41,237 --> 05:38:42,972
you know, the suicide part of

10521
05:38:42,972 --> 05:38:44,139
it and all those other things,

10522
05:38:44,139 --> 05:38:45,941
I feel like that's a concern

10523
05:38:45,941 --> 05:38:47,843
that we should all look at. You

10524
05:38:47,843 --> 05:38:49,145
know, how can our SROs have

10525
05:38:49,145 --> 05:38:51,647
access to this? How can we make

10526
05:38:51,647 --> 05:38:53,515
sure that our students, my

10527
05:38:53,515 --> 05:38:55,118
peers are safe, you know, if

10528
05:38:55,118 --> 05:38:56,519
they want help and they're

10529
05:38:56,519 --> 05:38:57,587
reaching out to Magic School,

10530
05:38:57,587 --> 05:38:59,389
and Magic School is just

10531
05:38:59,389 --> 05:39:01,390
sending a flag to the teacher.

10532
05:39:01,390 --> 05:39:02,592
We need to know and we need to

10533
05:39:02,592 --> 05:39:04,660
have access to that. We need to

10534
05:39:04,660 --> 05:39:07,530
be able to have it on a larger

10535
05:39:07,530 --> 05:39:09,766
scale. I did also like the fact

10536
05:39:09,766 --> 05:39:12,201
that it when I was trying to

10537
05:39:12,201 --> 05:39:14,370
like learn something, it didn't

10538
05:39:14,370 --> 05:39:16,172
just like give me the answer.

10539
05:39:16,172 --> 05:39:18,675
It walked me through it. It

10540
05:39:18,675 --> 05:39:20,877
told me how I should think sort

10541
05:39:20,877 --> 05:39:22,110
of. And it, it kind of just

10542
05:39:22,110 --> 05:39:23,879
walked me through it. Now it's

10543
05:39:23,879 --> 05:39:25,849
not human to human person to

10544
05:39:25,849 --> 05:39:26,949
person still, you know, I'm a

10545
05:39:26,949 --> 05:39:28,751
really big advocate, advocate

10546
05:39:28,751 --> 05:39:30,920
for, you know, human

10547
05:39:30,920 --> 05:39:32,210
interaction. But if a student

10548
05:39:32,210 --> 05:39:34,190
does need help, you know, it,

10549
05:39:34,190 --> 05:39:35,959
it did help me. It did say, hey,

10550
05:39:35,959 --> 05:39:38,161
you just have to do this, make

10551
05:39:38,161 --> 05:39:39,929
sure you're doing that. And

10552
05:39:39,929 --> 05:39:42,310
it's asking me questions for me

10553
05:39:42,310 --> 05:39:45,100
to answer back so that I can be

10554
05:39:45,100 --> 05:39:46,603
interactive with it. So it does

10555
05:39:46,603 --> 05:39:48,238
look like a good platform, just

10556
05:39:48,238 --> 05:39:50,707
a little tweaks that we need to

10557
05:39:50,707 --> 05:39:52,542
work on before. Yeah.

10558
05:39:52,542 --> 05:39:54,343
>> And MR. Castaneda, did I not

10559
05:39:54,343 --> 05:39:54,744
raise those exact concerns?

10560
05:39:54,744 --> 05:39:56,744
>> Yes.

10561
05:39:56,879 --> 05:39:59,449
>> Real time when we met?

10562
05:39:59,449 --> 05:40:00,817
>> Yes. And in fact, we based

10563
05:40:00,817 --> 05:40:02,285
on those concerns which we

10564
05:40:02,285 --> 05:40:03,687
detected because we also said,

10565
05:40:03,687 --> 05:40:05,489
hey, a notification is not

10566
05:40:05,489 --> 05:40:06,889
enough. We're working with

10567
05:40:06,889 --> 05:40:09,590
Magic School now at getting

10568
05:40:09,590 --> 05:40:10,160
data feeds from them that if a

10569
05:40:10,160 --> 05:40:11,628
notification is sent, they're

10570
05:40:11,628 --> 05:40:13,396
going to send the data to us,

10571
05:40:13,396 --> 05:40:15,599
and then we can do whatever we

10572
05:40:15,599 --> 05:40:17,500
need to do with it, including

10573
05:40:17,500 --> 05:40:18,401
sending notifications to SROs

10574
05:40:18,401 --> 05:40:20,401
or to others.

10575
05:40:22,105 --> 05:40:24,575
>> So, okay, that's sending the

10576
05:40:24,575 --> 05:40:26,576
data. Yes, is good, but is this

10577
05:40:26,576 --> 05:40:27,543
a real time immediate reaction?

10578
05:40:27,543 --> 05:40:28,645
Like the minute that the

10579
05:40:28,645 --> 05:40:30,647
student says that there are

10580
05:40:30,647 --> 05:40:32,482
multiple people being alerted.

10581
05:40:32,482 --> 05:40:33,951
>> What we would ask for magic

10582
05:40:33,951 --> 05:40:35,652
school and this is this is

10583
05:40:35,652 --> 05:40:37,153
really going to end up being if

10584
05:40:37,153 --> 05:40:38,222
there's any limitation in your

10585
05:40:38,222 --> 05:40:40,390
technology platform, is to

10586
05:40:40,390 --> 05:40:42,192
leverage an api that would be

10587
05:40:42,192 --> 05:40:43,993
able to send that as a data

10588
05:40:43,993 --> 05:40:46,229
stream as it happens, and then

10589
05:40:46,229 --> 05:40:48,632
we consume it, and then we do

10590
05:40:48,632 --> 05:40:50,200
something with it rather than,

10591
05:40:50,200 --> 05:40:51,901
okay, once a week, we'll send

10592
05:40:51,901 --> 05:40:54,104
you a file that's that's

10593
05:40:54,104 --> 05:40:55,606
useless in these cases.

10594
05:40:55,606 --> 05:40:55,939
>> Yeah.

10595
05:40:55,939 --> 05:40:57,939
>> api.

10596
05:40:58,775 --> 05:41:01,645
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Api is a

10597
05:41:01,645 --> 05:41:04,450
method for communicating data

10598
05:41:04,914 --> 05:41:06,830
that's modern, that allows two

10599
05:41:06,830 --> 05:41:07,418
different applications that

10600
05:41:07,418 --> 05:41:09,653
don't normally talk to each

10601
05:41:09,653 --> 05:41:11,422
other, to talk to each other in

10602
05:41:11,422 --> 05:41:12,789
a real time basis. And it

10603
05:41:12,789 --> 05:41:14,658
stands for Application

10604
05:41:14,658 --> 05:41:16,593
Programing Interface api.

10605
05:41:16,593 --> 05:41:18,562
>> Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

10606
05:41:18,562 --> 05:41:19,563
Because I just do want to say,

10607
05:41:19,563 --> 05:41:20,597
first of all, this is

10608
05:41:20,597 --> 05:41:21,799
constructive criticism. I mean,

10609
05:41:21,799 --> 05:41:23,500
the platform is amazing. We are

10610
05:41:23,500 --> 05:41:24,602
going through this and I'm

10611
05:41:24,602 --> 05:41:26,504
telling them like, this is so

10612
05:41:26,504 --> 05:41:27,637
this is amazing. Like, this is

10613
05:41:27,637 --> 05:41:29,507
so cool. I'm sitting here. I

10614
05:41:29,507 --> 05:41:30,774
had to make a lesson explaining

10615
05:41:30,774 --> 05:41:32,643
how the bcc board meetings work.

10616
05:41:32,643 --> 05:41:33,778
And it came up with a worksheet

10617
05:41:33,778 --> 05:41:35,513
in like two seconds. So it

10618
05:41:35,513 --> 05:41:36,680
really is an amazing program.

10619
05:41:36,680 --> 05:41:37,782
It's really just like this one

10620
05:41:37,782 --> 05:41:39,617
thing that obviously we very

10621
05:41:39,617 --> 05:41:41,652
much need to take care of. But

10622
05:41:41,652 --> 05:41:42,686
I also do want to say, I know

10623
05:41:42,686 --> 05:41:43,788
there's probably some people

10624
05:41:43,788 --> 05:41:45,555
who are either here or

10625
05:41:45,555 --> 05:41:47,491
listening who are like, this is

10626
05:41:47,491 --> 05:41:48,592
so silly. Who's going on to a

10627
05:41:48,592 --> 05:41:49,627
school website to talk about

10628
05:41:49,627 --> 05:41:51,529
how they want to hurt

10629
05:41:51,529 --> 05:41:52,696
themselves? But it is a very

10630
05:41:52,696 --> 05:41:54,498
real thing. It is very real

10631
05:41:54,498 --> 05:41:55,666
thing. And I know I have

10632
05:41:55,666 --> 05:41:56,767
friends who have used ai for

10633
05:41:56,767 --> 05:41:58,502
therapy, right? Because therapy

10634
05:41:58,502 --> 05:41:59,670
is expensive. I don't know if

10635
05:41:59,670 --> 05:42:01,506
you guys have looked at the

10636
05:42:01,506 --> 05:42:02,672
prices of that. It is pricey.

10637
05:42:02,672 --> 05:42:04,575
So for some people, ai is all

10638
05:42:04,575 --> 05:42:05,709
they really have right now. And

10639
05:42:05,709 --> 05:42:07,645
it's important that even if the

10640
05:42:07,645 --> 05:42:08,713
ai can give advice with that,

10641
05:42:08,713 --> 05:42:10,515
it's directing our students to

10642
05:42:10,515 --> 05:42:11,682
a safe place. Because at the

10643
05:42:11,682 --> 05:42:12,817
end of the day, if someone

10644
05:42:12,817 --> 05:42:14,585
wants to harm themselves, ai

10645
05:42:14,585 --> 05:42:15,653
can't really step in and do

10646
05:42:15,653 --> 05:42:17,522
anything right. But if you're

10647
05:42:17,522 --> 05:42:18,623
with a counselor and you tell

10648
05:42:18,623 --> 05:42:20,658
your counselor, I need I feel

10649
05:42:20,658 --> 05:42:21,826
the need to do this. I want to

10650
05:42:21,826 --> 05:42:23,728
harm myself. Your counselor can

10651
05:42:23,728 --> 05:42:25,595
step in and keep you from doing

10652
05:42:25,595 --> 05:42:26,764
that. And I just think it is

10653
05:42:26,764 --> 05:42:28,499
very important that we continue

10654
05:42:28,499 --> 05:42:29,734
to highlight that with the use

10655
05:42:29,734 --> 05:42:31,602
of ai, because that I know for

10656
05:42:31,602 --> 05:42:32,770
me, as someone who has also

10657
05:42:32,770 --> 05:42:34,505
dealt with mental health issues,

10658
05:42:34,505 --> 05:42:35,640
that is a really big concern

10659
05:42:35,640 --> 05:42:37,642
that whether or not we all

10660
05:42:37,642 --> 05:42:39,510
agree on ai, I think we should

10661
05:42:39,510 --> 05:42:39,877
all agree that that is a huge

10662
05:42:39,877 --> 05:42:41,579
concern with it.

10663
05:42:41,579 --> 05:42:42,647
>> One more thing. Sorry. The

10664
05:42:42,647 --> 05:42:43,848
final, final thing, another

10665
05:42:43,848 --> 05:42:45,749
thing that I really loved about

10666
05:42:45,749 --> 05:42:47,652
the app and how it was used is

10667
05:42:47,652 --> 05:42:49,620
it not only gave me, you know,

10668
05:42:49,620 --> 05:42:51,555
the way of how to do it and

10669
05:42:51,555 --> 05:42:52,624
kind of guide me through my

10670
05:42:52,624 --> 05:42:53,791
thinking. It also encouraged me

10671
05:42:53,791 --> 05:42:54,859
to speak to other people and

10672
05:42:54,859 --> 05:42:56,628
like interact with other

10673
05:42:56,628 --> 05:42:57,696
students. So when I was typing

10674
05:42:57,696 --> 05:42:59,531
in there, hey, I need help

10675
05:42:59,531 --> 05:43:00,799
writing my essay. What should I

10676
05:43:00,799 --> 05:43:02,534
do? It said first, you should

10677
05:43:02,534 --> 05:43:04,690
probably speak to another peer

10678
05:43:04,690 --> 05:43:06,204
inside of your classroom so it

10679
05:43:06,204 --> 05:43:07,772
interactively acts and made and

10680
05:43:07,772 --> 05:43:09,140
telling you to interact with

10681
05:43:09,140 --> 05:43:10,508
your other students and

10682
05:43:10,508 --> 05:43:13,508
interact with other people. So

10683
05:43:14,178 --> 05:43:15,313
I did like that as well.

10684
05:43:15,313 --> 05:43:17,148
>> MISS Leonardi, is this our

10685
05:43:17,148 --> 05:43:18,416
only time to speak on it?

10686
05:43:18,416 --> 05:43:19,316
>> No, I was actually still

10687
05:43:19,316 --> 05:43:21,186
building, trying to build

10688
05:43:21,186 --> 05:43:22,420
consensus among as I was going

10689
05:43:22,420 --> 05:43:24,122
to call on you guys. But but

10690
05:43:24,122 --> 05:43:25,323
you know, Doctor Hepburn went

10691
05:43:25,323 --> 05:43:27,926
ahead. But yeah, I'll be coming

10692
05:43:27,926 --> 05:43:29,628
to you guys later. But to to

10693
05:43:29,628 --> 05:43:32,628
the question about the safety

10694
05:43:33,397 --> 05:43:35,700
piece when when someone reports

10695
05:43:35,700 --> 05:43:38,700
on 4 to 5 Florida, for instance,

10696
05:43:38,970 --> 05:43:40,739
a safety issue, what is their

10697
05:43:40,739 --> 05:43:41,907
real time notification at Dsoc

10698
05:43:41,907 --> 05:43:42,941
on that.

10699
05:43:42,941 --> 05:43:44,941
>> Yes, absolutely.

10700
05:43:45,143 --> 05:43:47,345
>> So there should be a similar

10701
05:43:47,345 --> 05:43:49,281
process with this is the point

10702
05:43:49,281 --> 05:43:50,816
that I think all of us are

10703
05:43:50,816 --> 05:43:52,751
trying to make.

10704
05:43:52,751 --> 05:43:54,860
>> Yes. So I know, like Manny

10705
05:43:54,860 --> 05:43:56,622
said, he's working with Magic

10706
05:43:56,622 --> 05:43:57,689
School to ensure because

10707
05:43:57,689 --> 05:43:58,756
there's, there's certain

10708
05:43:58,756 --> 05:44:00,192
notifications that a teacher

10709
05:44:00,192 --> 05:44:01,994
receives that goes up to

10710
05:44:01,994 --> 05:44:04,994
channel pretty quickly too. So

10711
05:44:05,264 --> 05:44:06,932
I think notification to the

10712
05:44:06,932 --> 05:44:08,133
right person, right. I think

10713
05:44:08,133 --> 05:44:09,134
the right person initially is

10714
05:44:09,134 --> 05:44:10,235
always the teacher in the

10715
05:44:10,235 --> 05:44:12,710
classroom. And then ensuring

10716
05:44:12,710 --> 05:44:13,172
that they know what to do with

10717
05:44:13,172 --> 05:44:14,306
the information immediately,

10718
05:44:14,306 --> 05:44:16,508
just like they do with any

10719
05:44:16,508 --> 05:44:17,809
other cases that they interact

10720
05:44:17,809 --> 05:44:19,144
or receive.

10721
05:44:19,144 --> 05:44:20,913
>> And so back to the question

10722
05:44:20,913 --> 05:44:22,514
of a ai student council that

10723
05:44:22,514 --> 05:44:24,783
would help with vetting,

10724
05:44:24,783 --> 05:44:26,317
developing frameworks, looking

10725
05:44:26,317 --> 05:44:29,317
at how, you know, collaborating

10726
05:44:29,321 --> 05:44:30,389
with teachers and, and district

10727
05:44:30,389 --> 05:44:32,224
administrators and even

10728
05:44:32,224 --> 05:44:33,625
developers on how to use these

10729
05:44:33,625 --> 05:44:34,727
different tools. Is there any

10730
05:44:34,727 --> 05:44:36,895
objection to creating an ai

10731
05:44:36,895 --> 05:44:39,295
student council? For my

10732
05:44:40,320 --> 05:44:41,166
colleagues, seeing none. Do you

10733
05:44:41,166 --> 05:44:44,166
have your direction on that,

10734
05:44:45,837 --> 05:44:48,390
Doctor Hepburn? I think we also

10735
05:44:48,390 --> 05:44:50,609
heard a lot from the public

10736
05:44:50,609 --> 05:44:52,100
about privacy. And I think for

10737
05:44:52,100 --> 05:44:54,146
me, it's just something that I

10738
05:44:54,146 --> 05:44:56,348
brought up a few months ago

10739
05:44:56,348 --> 05:44:58,484
with regards to child friendly

10740
05:44:58,484 --> 05:45:00,484
procurement guidelines. So

10741
05:45:01,720 --> 05:45:04,256
looking at applying privacy by

10742
05:45:04,256 --> 05:45:06,580
default, chatbot chatbot

10743
05:45:06,580 --> 05:45:07,526
platforms that employ safety

10744
05:45:07,526 --> 05:45:09,526
features, including flagging

10745
05:45:10,620 --> 05:45:11,764
like what? Magic School has

10746
05:45:11,764 --> 05:45:14,164
tools that prevent data

10747
05:45:14,366 --> 05:45:15,768
scraping, tools that have very

10748
05:45:15,768 --> 05:45:17,569
good data encryption, things

10749
05:45:17,569 --> 05:45:20,139
like that. I think we really

10750
05:45:20,139 --> 05:45:22,275
need to have a clear set of

10751
05:45:22,275 --> 05:45:23,643
child friendly procurement

10752
05:45:23,643 --> 05:45:24,810
guidelines that, you know, is a

10753
05:45:24,810 --> 05:45:26,579
public facing document. So our

10754
05:45:26,579 --> 05:45:28,380
parents can feel comfortable

10755
05:45:28,380 --> 05:45:29,849
with knowing that when we

10756
05:45:29,849 --> 05:45:32,385
procure something, that it is

10757
05:45:32,385 --> 05:45:35,385
safe for their children. Is

10758
05:45:35,588 --> 05:45:38,156
that something that we could do

10759
05:45:38,156 --> 05:45:39,258
with consensus from the board?

10760
05:45:39,258 --> 05:45:40,326
>> Yes. We can work with

10761
05:45:40,326 --> 05:45:41,694
procurement to create a

10762
05:45:41,694 --> 05:45:44,530
specific doc of how they're

10763
05:45:44,530 --> 05:45:46,332
vetting, and also the end users

10764
05:45:46,332 --> 05:45:48,534
who initiate the contracts.

10765
05:45:48,534 --> 05:45:49,602
>> When can we expect that if

10766
05:45:49,602 --> 05:45:50,969
there is more consensus?

10767
05:45:50,969 --> 05:45:53,205
>> Yeah, if there's work, give

10768
05:45:53,205 --> 05:45:54,474
us opportunity to meet with the

10769
05:45:54,474 --> 05:45:56,375
team and see what they can come

10770
05:45:56,375 --> 05:45:58,644
up with and say a couple of

10771
05:45:58,644 --> 05:46:01,146
weeks, just at least have a

10772
05:46:01,146 --> 05:46:03,149
plan of next steps.

10773
05:46:03,149 --> 05:46:04,350
>> And so I, for me, the way I

10774
05:46:04,350 --> 05:46:06,219
envision this, it would apply

10775
05:46:06,219 --> 05:46:08,187
to new contracts and any

10776
05:46:08,187 --> 05:46:10,587
contracts that don't fulfill

10777
05:46:10,890 --> 05:46:13,290
these guidelines would be

10778
05:46:13,392 --> 05:46:15,228
sunsetted. So is there any

10779
05:46:15,228 --> 05:46:15,962
objection to that from my

10780
05:46:15,962 --> 05:46:17,697
colleagues?

10781
05:46:17,697 --> 05:46:19,980
>> Can you. DR. Zeman just.

10782
05:46:19,980 --> 05:46:21,340
>> I'm a little concerned about

10783
05:46:21,340 --> 05:46:25,234
the sunset. We have a lot of

10784
05:46:25,237 --> 05:46:26,339
software. Are you specifically

10785
05:46:26,339 --> 05:46:27,439
referring to the subset of

10786
05:46:27,439 --> 05:46:28,808
software that has large

10787
05:46:28,808 --> 05:46:29,909
language models built into it,

10788
05:46:29,909 --> 05:46:31,711
or all software?

10789
05:46:31,711 --> 05:46:33,980
>> All software. So we heard

10790
05:46:33,980 --> 05:46:35,314
from parents, right. And we

10791
05:46:35,314 --> 05:46:36,449
shouldn't really be doing any

10792
05:46:36,449 --> 05:46:37,516
anything that would not be

10793
05:46:37,516 --> 05:46:38,952
child friendly, right? We

10794
05:46:38,952 --> 05:46:40,519
shouldn't have contracts with

10795
05:46:40,519 --> 05:46:43,289
any, you know, company that

10796
05:46:43,289 --> 05:46:45,458
would sell, we sell children's

10797
05:46:45,458 --> 05:46:47,159
data. Right? So that's what I'm

10798
05:46:47,159 --> 05:46:48,428
saying is we, I, we should, I

10799
05:46:48,428 --> 05:46:52,628
think we need to have some very

10800
05:46:52,966 --> 05:46:55,366
clear guidelines around privacy.

10801
05:46:55,802 --> 05:46:58,202
Student protecting student data,

10802
05:46:58,437 --> 05:46:59,406
ownership of that data. And we

10803
05:46:59,406 --> 05:47:01,174
should be doing this already.

10804
05:47:01,174 --> 05:47:02,676
But I think having that public

10805
05:47:02,676 --> 05:47:04,477
facing document and reviewing

10806
05:47:04,477 --> 05:47:05,912
the, you know, the technology

10807
05:47:05,912 --> 05:47:07,580
contracts that we have, if they

10808
05:47:07,580 --> 05:47:09,182
don't meet those guidelines,

10809
05:47:09,182 --> 05:47:10,950
then we shouldn't have them.

10810
05:47:10,950 --> 05:47:12,452
>> So zero data retention. I

10811
05:47:12,452 --> 05:47:13,820
mean, that's really the key.

10812
05:47:13,820 --> 05:47:14,954
>> Yeah. And that's why I'm

10813
05:47:14,954 --> 05:47:16,723
referencing your follow up. I

10814
05:47:16,723 --> 05:47:20,127
don't know if it's the kind of

10815
05:47:20,127 --> 05:47:22,462
the same. Probably follow up as

10816
05:47:22,462 --> 05:47:24,431
far as that. So I think that I

10817
05:47:24,431 --> 05:47:24,698
ink DR. Zeman follow u uis a

10818
05:47:24,698 --> 05:47:26,399
od statart

10819
05:47:26,399 --> 05:47:27,534
>> Minee w was thnicic, bubuterss

10820
05:47:27,534 --> 05:47:29,403
is opetiononal. Agrgree wit

10821
05:47:29,403 --> 05:47:29,736
hers that we ought not t have

10822
05:47:29,736 --> 05:47:31,538
that.

10823
05:47:31,538 --> 05:47:33,373
>> And so we'll work with

10824
05:47:33,373 --> 05:47:35,876
General Counsel's team on that

10825
05:47:35,876 --> 05:47:37,311
follow up anyway. And then just

10826
05:47:37,311 --> 05:47:38,745
to make sure our contract

10827
05:47:38,745 --> 05:47:40,180
contract language does address

10828
05:47:40,180 --> 05:47:41,715
that in this lock tight on

10829
05:47:41,715 --> 05:47:44,115
privacy, ensuring student data

10830
05:47:46,319 --> 05:47:48,388
and also staff data to.

10831
05:47:48,388 --> 05:47:49,189
>> I'm almost done. My my

10832
05:47:49,189 --> 05:47:50,624
apologies and thank you for

10833
05:47:50,624 --> 05:47:53,240
your patience with my

10834
05:47:53,527 --> 05:47:55,927
colleagues. I'm going to

10835
05:47:56,290 --> 05:47:56,996
propose some maybe more

10836
05:47:56,996 --> 05:47:58,650
controversial things that we've

10837
05:47:58,650 --> 05:48:00,534
heard from the community. And

10838
05:48:00,534 --> 05:48:03,534
I've I've read the American

10839
05:48:04,171 --> 05:48:06,390
Federation of Teachers. One of

10840
05:48:06,390 --> 05:48:08,439
the recommendations from the

10841
05:48:09,509 --> 05:48:12,846
aft was that vpk through second

10842
05:48:12,846 --> 05:48:14,381
grade have no screens unless

10843
05:48:14,381 --> 05:48:15,649
required for state testing or

10844
05:48:15,649 --> 05:48:17,418
to support students with

10845
05:48:17,418 --> 05:48:18,518
special needs. And that is

10846
05:48:18,518 --> 05:48:21,455
something that I would like to

10847
05:48:21,455 --> 05:48:23,590
put forward and hear. If there

10848
05:48:23,590 --> 05:48:26,590
are any objections from the

10849
05:48:28,629 --> 05:48:30,430
board. For vpk through second

10850
05:48:30,430 --> 05:48:31,966
grade, unless required for

10851
05:48:31,966 --> 05:48:33,400
state testing or to support

10852
05:48:33,400 --> 05:48:34,969
students with special needs.

10853
05:48:34,969 --> 05:48:36,237
>> Can I just ask a question?

10854
05:48:36,237 --> 05:48:37,638
That's for general counsel. Is

10855
05:48:37,638 --> 05:48:39,106
this something that we ought to

10856
05:48:39,106 --> 05:48:40,307
be doing at a school board

10857
05:48:40,307 --> 05:48:43,760
meeting and not at a workshop?

10858
05:48:43,760 --> 05:48:44,111
That sounds to me like, like a

10859
05:48:44,111 --> 05:48:45,513
significant decision that we

10860
05:48:45,513 --> 05:48:46,680
want to make and we want

10861
05:48:46,680 --> 05:48:48,483
probably want to get a staff

10862
05:48:48,483 --> 05:48:50,350
input and an item brought to a

10863
05:48:50,350 --> 05:48:50,618
school board meeting and not a

10864
05:48:50,618 --> 05:48:52,118
workshop.

10865
05:48:52,118 --> 05:48:54,221
>> Well, she can certainly ask

10866
05:48:54,221 --> 05:48:55,723
her colleagues to weigh in on a

10867
05:48:55,723 --> 05:48:57,858
proper well, not a proposition,

10868
05:48:57,858 --> 05:48:59,627
but a thought that she has. But

10869
05:48:59,627 --> 05:49:00,761
then, of course, the board can

10870
05:49:00,761 --> 05:49:02,930
respond and say that I think

10871
05:49:02,930 --> 05:49:03,997
that we need to have more

10872
05:49:03,997 --> 05:49:06,434
information, and this needs to

10873
05:49:06,434 --> 05:49:06,968
be brought forward in a formal

10874
05:49:06,968 --> 05:49:08,968
meeting.

10875
05:49:09,360 --> 05:49:12,636
>> So I'm worried at a more

10876
05:49:13,307 --> 05:49:15,707
legal level about making

10877
05:49:16,243 --> 05:49:18,120
decisions based on consensus at

10878
05:49:18,120 --> 05:49:20,148
a workshop. That sounds and

10879
05:49:20,148 --> 05:49:22,716
feels a lot to me like it's a

10880
05:49:22,716 --> 05:49:24,419
real substantive decision for

10881
05:49:24,419 --> 05:49:25,419
which the staff and the

10882
05:49:25,419 --> 05:49:27,419
superintendent should should

10883
05:49:27,422 --> 05:49:28,255
bring an item to us for

10884
05:49:28,255 --> 05:49:30,655
consideration. With a little

10885
05:49:30,792 --> 05:49:32,393
bit more time and a formal vote.

10886
05:49:32,393 --> 05:49:34,896
I don't want to have to get

10887
05:49:34,896 --> 05:49:37,165
consensus on something when in

10888
05:49:37,165 --> 05:49:39,199
fact, with a majority, we could

10889
05:49:39,199 --> 05:49:40,100
do the same thing at a school

10890
05:49:40,100 --> 05:49:42,100
board meeting.

10891
05:49:42,103 --> 05:49:43,504
>> So I I'll I'll withdraw the

10892
05:49:43,504 --> 05:49:45,380
proposal, but it is something

10893
05:49:45,380 --> 05:49:47,175
that I will request a follow up

10894
05:49:47,175 --> 05:49:48,376
on about the the feasibility of

10895
05:49:48,376 --> 05:49:50,378
doing that, what that would

10896
05:49:50,378 --> 05:49:51,513
look like in our vpk,

10897
05:49:51,513 --> 05:49:53,280
kindergarten, first and second

10898
05:49:53,280 --> 05:49:56,184
grade classrooms if we were to

10899
05:49:56,184 --> 05:49:57,317
go device or screen free unless

10900
05:49:57,317 --> 05:49:58,353
required for state testing or

10901
05:49:58,353 --> 05:50:00,753
to support students with

10902
05:50:01,656 --> 05:50:03,791
special needs. And then I will

10903
05:50:03,791 --> 05:50:06,594
I will be bringing that in a

10904
05:50:06,594 --> 05:50:08,396
board item. The other ones that

10905
05:50:08,396 --> 05:50:09,797
I'll I'll raise that I'll ask

10906
05:50:09,797 --> 05:50:12,333
about the feasibility is to

10907
05:50:12,333 --> 05:50:13,568
have no student facing ai in

10908
05:50:13,568 --> 05:50:15,968
elementary school. That means

10909
05:50:17,370 --> 05:50:20,370
like direct student use, having

10910
05:50:22,844 --> 05:50:25,714
an age limit for generative ai.

10911
05:50:25,714 --> 05:50:27,816
And a need for a mandatory

10912
05:50:27,816 --> 05:50:29,751
teacher training. In addition

10913
05:50:29,751 --> 05:50:31,887
to the training that our ai

10914
05:50:31,887 --> 05:50:33,320
liaisons do. So my feeling is

10915
05:50:33,320 --> 05:50:35,790
that teachers need to be taught

10916
05:50:35,790 --> 05:50:38,693
how to utilize this in their

10917
05:50:38,693 --> 05:50:40,950
classrooms. Otherwise students

10918
05:50:40,950 --> 05:50:41,162
will be using it without their

10919
05:50:41,162 --> 05:50:42,997
supervision. And that's what I

10920
05:50:42,997 --> 05:50:44,833
heard over and over and over

10921
05:50:44,833 --> 05:50:46,234
from our students, is that the

10922
05:50:46,234 --> 05:50:47,669
teachers who have like outright

10923
05:50:47,669 --> 05:50:49,438
banned it, who don't know how

10924
05:50:49,438 --> 05:50:51,273
to use it, the students just

10925
05:50:51,273 --> 05:50:52,440
use it to do the work. That's

10926
05:50:52,440 --> 05:50:53,742
not every single student in

10927
05:50:53,742 --> 05:50:55,610
every single classroom. But

10928
05:50:55,610 --> 05:50:57,345
that's what I heard from a lot

10929
05:50:57,345 --> 05:50:59,548
of students that I spoke with

10930
05:50:59,548 --> 05:51:00,916
in round tables.

10931
05:51:00,916 --> 05:51:02,384
>> This Leonardi could you

10932
05:51:02,384 --> 05:51:03,385
consider also administrators?

10933
05:51:03,385 --> 05:51:05,654
There's a whole bunch of the

10934
05:51:05,654 --> 05:51:06,488
Magic School apps, the tools

10935
05:51:06,488 --> 05:51:07,689
inside the app that are

10936
05:51:07,689 --> 05:51:09,558
appropriate for administrators.

10937
05:51:09,558 --> 05:51:10,659
And I think, I don't know, MISS

10938
05:51:10,659 --> 05:51:12,560
Dean might disagree with you,

10939
05:51:12,560 --> 05:51:13,561
but I think there's still a lot

10940
05:51:13,561 --> 05:51:14,696
of administrators that are

10941
05:51:14,696 --> 05:51:15,530
coming up to speed on ai as

10942
05:51:15,530 --> 05:51:16,797
well.

10943
05:51:16,797 --> 05:51:19,368
>> I mean, yeah, sure we can,

10944
05:51:19,368 --> 05:51:20,502
we can I it was my

10945
05:51:20,502 --> 05:51:21,369
understanding that our

10946
05:51:21,369 --> 05:51:22,838
administrators have received a

10947
05:51:22,838 --> 05:51:24,773
lot of training on that. But

10948
05:51:24,773 --> 05:51:26,400
I'm happy to to add my concern,

10949
05:51:26,400 --> 05:51:27,410
my main concern is teachers in

10950
05:51:27,410 --> 05:51:29,441
the classroom with students.

10951
05:51:31,179 --> 05:51:32,314
But I can add that to, to the

10952
05:51:32,314 --> 05:51:34,116
the request.

10953
05:51:34,116 --> 05:51:36,116
>> Thank you.

10954
05:51:36,285 --> 05:51:37,719
>> That ends my my list of

10955
05:51:37,719 --> 05:51:39,488
requests. I appreciate your

10956
05:51:39,488 --> 05:51:41,289
patience with that, and I look

10957
05:51:41,289 --> 05:51:42,358
forward to hearing from my

10958
05:51:42,358 --> 05:51:43,626
colleagues.

10959
05:51:43,626 --> 05:51:45,527
>> DR. Zeman thank you, chair,

10960
05:51:45,527 --> 05:51:49,231
and I'm glad I got to go after

10961
05:51:49,231 --> 05:51:50,999
you because your preamble to

10962
05:51:50,999 --> 05:51:52,400
this about social media and the

10963
05:51:52,400 --> 05:51:54,202
preamble even to that about the

10964
05:51:54,202 --> 05:51:56,805
internet, I remember, and maybe

10965
05:51:56,805 --> 05:51:58,107
this is an experience age issue,

10966
05:51:58,107 --> 05:51:59,208
but, you know, when the

10967
05:51:59,208 --> 05:52:00,343
internet came out, you know,

10968
05:52:00,343 --> 05:52:02,110
that was supposed to solve huge

10969
05:52:02,110 --> 05:52:03,312
social problems. And I don't

10970
05:52:03,312 --> 05:52:05,114
think we did that very well.

10971
05:52:05,114 --> 05:52:06,215
Social media at the same to

10972
05:52:06,215 --> 05:52:07,282
MISS Leonardi point, and it's

10973
05:52:07,282 --> 05:52:09,285
probably done more harm than

10974
05:52:09,285 --> 05:52:11,253
good in kind of a ten or 100 to

10975
05:52:11,253 --> 05:52:13,689
1 ratio. And now we're about to

10976
05:52:13,689 --> 05:52:15,491
do this big third technological

10977
05:52:15,491 --> 05:52:17,626
innovation. And in a school

10978
05:52:17,626 --> 05:52:18,760
district, it's it's incredibly

10979
05:52:18,760 --> 05:52:20,496
important to be intentional and

10980
05:52:20,496 --> 05:52:23,320
thoughtful and safe more than

10981
05:52:23,320 --> 05:52:24,133
anything else. And to Doctor

10982
05:52:24,133 --> 05:52:25,167
Cohen's point, there's an

10983
05:52:25,167 --> 05:52:26,936
opportunity for this to be a

10984
05:52:26,936 --> 05:52:28,437
differentiator for our school

10985
05:52:28,437 --> 05:52:29,938
district to say that we've been

10986
05:52:29,938 --> 05:52:31,374
thoughtful about it. We're

10987
05:52:31,374 --> 05:52:32,508
incredibly rigorous about

10988
05:52:32,508 --> 05:52:33,776
safety. I love all of the

10989
05:52:33,776 --> 05:52:36,712
things that MISS Leonardi is

10990
05:52:36,712 --> 05:52:38,948
bringing to our attention today,

10991
05:52:38,948 --> 05:52:40,249
and we'll see how some of those

10992
05:52:40,249 --> 05:52:42,510
go through in a school board

10993
05:52:42,510 --> 05:52:43,252
meeting soon. But there's a few

10994
05:52:43,252 --> 05:52:45,354
issues that I have that are

10995
05:52:45,354 --> 05:52:47,754
rather systematic issues. One

10996
05:52:47,824 --> 05:52:51,227
is we're overdue at having some

10997
05:52:51,227 --> 05:52:53,129
kind of ai guidance today. Like,

10998
05:52:53,129 --> 05:52:54,397
I don't know if you guys are

10999
05:52:54,397 --> 05:52:56,232
aware of this, but Magic School

11000
05:52:56,232 --> 05:52:57,399
is open. It's free, you can use

11001
05:52:57,399 --> 05:52:59,135
it. There's no restrictions on

11002
05:52:59,135 --> 05:53:00,469
it. Copilot. If you have a

11003
05:53:00,469 --> 05:53:02,605
license, you can go get it open.

11004
05:53:02,605 --> 05:53:05,875
Ai will let anybody get on and

11005
05:53:05,875 --> 05:53:07,344
use Chatgpt unrestricted. And

11006
05:53:07,344 --> 05:53:09,312
so if you have access to a

11007
05:53:09,312 --> 05:53:10,947
laptop, you can do tons of

11008
05:53:10,947 --> 05:53:12,782
stuff. And I believe we have a

11009
05:53:12,782 --> 05:53:13,783
social obligation to get

11010
05:53:13,783 --> 05:53:15,952
guidance out this summer,

11011
05:53:15,952 --> 05:53:17,787
Doctor Hepburn, so that we make

11012
05:53:17,787 --> 05:53:18,855
sure that parents and students

11013
05:53:18,855 --> 05:53:20,560
understand that there are

11014
05:53:20,560 --> 05:53:22,580
significant risks on things

11015
05:53:22,580 --> 05:53:23,893
that we don't provide, but are

11016
05:53:23,893 --> 05:53:25,628
sitting on mom and dads, aunts,

11017
05:53:25,628 --> 05:53:27,430
uncles, Pappy and Granny's

11018
05:53:27,430 --> 05:53:29,632
laptop or the laptop at the

11019
05:53:29,632 --> 05:53:31,434
library. And I think we have a

11020
05:53:31,434 --> 05:53:32,469
tremendous opportunity and an

11021
05:53:32,469 --> 05:53:34,704
obligation to train our

11022
05:53:34,704 --> 05:53:35,939
teachers and administrators on

11023
05:53:35,939 --> 05:53:37,874
how to get the word out and

11024
05:53:37,874 --> 05:53:41,845
then to get it out to parents.

11025
05:53:41,845 --> 05:53:43,980
And I love a thoughtful kind of

11026
05:53:43,980 --> 05:53:45,515
parent communication strategy

11027
05:53:45,515 --> 05:53:47,584
that makes sure that they

11028
05:53:47,584 --> 05:53:48,752
understand what's going on. I

11029
05:53:48,752 --> 05:53:50,487
want to thank MISS Dean and

11030
05:53:50,487 --> 05:53:52,220
MISS Maggio for coming, though

11031
05:53:52,220 --> 05:53:52,789
today. I always will thank the

11032
05:53:52,789 --> 05:53:55,525
wieners because you guys are

11033
05:53:55,525 --> 05:53:57,590
rock stars, man. I just I

11034
05:53:57,590 --> 05:53:58,610
really, really appreciate your

11035
05:53:58,610 --> 05:53:59,462
commitment to something I

11036
05:53:59,462 --> 05:54:00,630
believe so deeply in, which is

11037
05:54:00,630 --> 05:54:01,998
public education is the most

11038
05:54:01,998 --> 05:54:03,799
important institution to a

11039
05:54:03,799 --> 05:54:04,967
community. And I know that your

11040
05:54:04,967 --> 05:54:06,703
generosity is based on that

11041
05:54:06,703 --> 05:54:08,838
same value and that same belief.

11042
05:54:08,838 --> 05:54:11,838
And it's wonderful always to

11043
05:54:12,441 --> 05:54:14,578
see you on this systematic

11044
05:54:14,578 --> 05:54:16,813
issues. I appreciate this

11045
05:54:16,813 --> 05:54:17,914
presentation a lot. It's it's

11046
05:54:17,914 --> 05:54:19,682
thoughtful, it's comprehensive,

11047
05:54:19,682 --> 05:54:21,518
it's got great graphics. It's

11048
05:54:21,518 --> 05:54:22,753
neat. I'm kind of focused

11049
05:54:22,753 --> 05:54:24,120
though, really on the execution.

11050
05:54:24,120 --> 05:54:26,156
That's why I think the guidance

11051
05:54:26,156 --> 05:54:27,824
has to be out before AUGUST. I

11052
05:54:27,824 --> 05:54:30,193
think our first day is AUGUST

11053
05:54:30,193 --> 05:54:31,895
11th this year. I mean, we've

11054
05:54:31,895 --> 05:54:33,129
got five days before that where

11055
05:54:33,129 --> 05:54:34,331
staff's all back. If we're not

11056
05:54:34,331 --> 05:54:36,166
talking to them for a whole

11057
05:54:36,166 --> 05:54:37,300
bunch of those five days about

11058
05:54:37,300 --> 05:54:39,436
ai, I think we're kind of

11059
05:54:39,436 --> 05:54:41,237
skipping. We're, we're, we're,

11060
05:54:41,237 --> 05:54:41,972
you know, burying the lead or

11061
05:54:41,972 --> 05:54:43,674
jumping the shark or whatever

11062
05:54:43,674 --> 05:54:45,609
you want to talk about. We've

11063
05:54:45,609 --> 05:54:47,411
got to get them guidance now

11064
05:54:47,411 --> 05:54:49,179
because ai is here, whether we

11065
05:54:49,179 --> 05:54:52,449
give it to them or they get it

11066
05:54:52,449 --> 05:54:53,617
otherwise, ai is present. I

11067
05:54:53,617 --> 05:54:55,118
love the approach that we're

11068
05:54:55,118 --> 05:54:56,387
going to take about software

11069
05:54:56,387 --> 05:54:59,230
reviews and make sure that we

11070
05:54:59,230 --> 05:55:00,230
have appropriate data standards

11071
05:55:00,230 --> 05:55:01,892
for everybody. And I know

11072
05:55:01,892 --> 05:55:03,960
that's not just about ai, but

11073
05:55:03,960 --> 05:55:05,290
that's really important. I will

11074
05:55:05,290 --> 05:55:06,329
break down the execution

11075
05:55:06,329 --> 05:55:07,932
comments I have into the three

11076
05:55:07,932 --> 05:55:09,967
kind of classic parts of

11077
05:55:09,967 --> 05:55:11,868
execution. You know, what is

11078
05:55:11,868 --> 05:55:14,705
the ends, the ways and the

11079
05:55:14,705 --> 05:55:16,840
means. In my mind, Doctor

11080
05:55:16,840 --> 05:55:19,420
Hepburn, when you think about

11081
05:55:19,420 --> 05:55:20,510
the goals that we have with the

11082
05:55:20,510 --> 05:55:21,678
implementation of this

11083
05:55:21,678 --> 05:55:24,480
technology, there are things

11084
05:55:24,480 --> 05:55:26,249
that other people the Chicago

11085
05:55:26,249 --> 05:55:28,118
group has done the value add

11086
05:55:28,118 --> 05:55:29,887
for technology and teacher

11087
05:55:29,887 --> 05:55:31,989
group has done. They talk about

11088
05:55:31,989 --> 05:55:33,791
kind of four big things. What's

11089
05:55:33,791 --> 05:55:35,326
the maximum value add of

11090
05:55:35,326 --> 05:55:36,994
technology to teaching. And

11091
05:55:36,994 --> 05:55:39,697
MISS Leonardi really hit that

11092
05:55:39,697 --> 05:55:41,398
very well. Two, that ai will

11093
05:55:41,398 --> 05:55:43,167
help us achieve the strategic

11094
05:55:43,167 --> 05:55:44,268
goals we already have. So if we

11095
05:55:44,268 --> 05:55:45,703
have strategic goals on

11096
05:55:45,703 --> 05:55:47,138
academic improvement, social

11097
05:55:47,138 --> 05:55:49,373
and emotional learning, mental

11098
05:55:49,373 --> 05:55:51,175
health attendance, engagement,

11099
05:55:51,175 --> 05:55:53,310
things like that, how can I be

11100
05:55:53,310 --> 05:55:54,678
a technology for good toward

11101
05:55:54,678 --> 05:55:57,215
those things? I think that's a

11102
05:55:57,215 --> 05:55:58,649
great goal to some points that

11103
05:55:58,649 --> 05:56:01,649
my colleagues and speakers have

11104
05:56:02,219 --> 05:56:03,721
had today. How does ai not

11105
05:56:03,721 --> 05:56:05,156
impinge on cognitive

11106
05:56:05,156 --> 05:56:06,958
development? Like that's got to

11107
05:56:06,958 --> 05:56:08,359
be baked into as a goal, at

11108
05:56:08,359 --> 05:56:09,861
least according to these other

11109
05:56:09,861 --> 05:56:12,663
groups. And then finally, that

11110
05:56:12,663 --> 05:56:14,932
the competencies for use of ai

11111
05:56:14,932 --> 05:56:17,350
are taught either explicitly as

11112
05:56:17,350 --> 05:56:18,936
a separate training series of

11113
05:56:18,936 --> 05:56:21,706
courses, or baked into courses

11114
05:56:21,706 --> 05:56:23,541
where it makes sense, or both.

11115
05:56:23,541 --> 05:56:25,309
But I just feel like those four

11116
05:56:25,309 --> 05:56:27,844
goals, Doctor Hepburn, seem to

11117
05:56:27,844 --> 05:56:29,447
be reasonable. But are there

11118
05:56:29,447 --> 05:56:30,915
other do those goals make sense,

11119
05:56:30,915 --> 05:56:32,160
Doctor Hepburn and are there

11120
05:56:32,160 --> 05:56:33,551
others that you've thought of

11121
05:56:33,551 --> 05:56:35,860
about? What are we trying to

11122
05:56:35,860 --> 05:56:35,587
achieve as this technology

11123
05:56:35,587 --> 05:56:37,188
becomes available?

11124
05:56:37,188 --> 05:56:39,690
>> Know those goals make sense,

11125
05:56:39,690 --> 05:56:42,900
including at the classroom

11126
05:56:42,594 --> 05:56:43,661
level. Differentiation lesson

11127
05:56:43,661 --> 05:56:44,496
quality. I think

11128
05:56:44,496 --> 05:56:45,830
differentiation is probably one

11129
05:56:45,830 --> 05:56:47,432
of the hardest tasks teachers

11130
05:56:47,432 --> 05:56:48,999
have been asked to do over the

11131
05:56:48,999 --> 05:56:51,100
past 20 years, you know, moving

11132
05:56:51,100 --> 05:56:52,603
from, you know, teaching pretty

11133
05:56:52,603 --> 05:56:54,506
much every kid the same to

11134
05:56:54,506 --> 05:56:56,608
saying, hey, I'm going to

11135
05:56:56,608 --> 05:56:59,800
provide a certain personalized

11136
05:56:59,144 --> 05:57:00,244
level of instruction for

11137
05:57:00,244 --> 05:57:01,379
individual kids. And I think

11138
05:57:01,379 --> 05:57:03,781
this helps to accelerate some

11139
05:57:03,781 --> 05:57:04,516
of those opportunities.

11140
05:57:04,516 --> 05:57:06,217
Accelerating critical thinking.

11141
05:57:06,217 --> 05:57:07,786
There's many other components

11142
05:57:07,786 --> 05:57:09,553
and also heightened engagement.

11143
05:57:09,553 --> 05:57:11,220
As I listened to Lily and I

11144
05:57:11,220 --> 05:57:13,422
listened to Michael, how

11145
05:57:13,925 --> 05:57:16,325
excited they are, right?

11146
05:57:16,427 --> 05:57:17,796
They're already leveraging ai

11147
05:57:17,796 --> 05:57:19,563
personally on their own devices

11148
05:57:19,563 --> 05:57:21,799
and help, which is helping them

11149
05:57:21,799 --> 05:57:23,668
with their, with, with their

11150
05:57:23,668 --> 05:57:25,369
academic prowess. But you know,

11151
05:57:25,369 --> 05:57:26,838
the excitement that can be

11152
05:57:26,838 --> 05:57:27,939
created, which heightens

11153
05:57:27,939 --> 05:57:29,674
engagement. So there's, there's

11154
05:57:29,674 --> 05:57:31,909
tons of goals that we can

11155
05:57:31,909 --> 05:57:33,712
associate when this is done

11156
05:57:33,712 --> 05:57:35,647
correctly, when this is done

11157
05:57:35,647 --> 05:57:36,915
ethically and thoughtfully with

11158
05:57:36,915 --> 05:57:37,983
all kind of stakeholders

11159
05:57:37,983 --> 05:57:39,150
contributing to it.

11160
05:57:39,150 --> 05:57:42,119
>> Thank you very much. In

11161
05:57:42,119 --> 05:57:44,489
terms of the methods, we talked

11162
05:57:44,489 --> 05:57:46,758
a little bit about ai literacy.

11163
05:57:46,758 --> 05:57:49,160
Doctor Hepburn, how much, just

11164
05:57:49,160 --> 05:57:53,980
in terms of time, do you plan

11165
05:57:53,980 --> 05:57:55,267
to spend with teachers on on

11166
05:57:55,267 --> 05:57:57,101
their literacy of ai before

11167
05:57:57,101 --> 05:57:58,537
school starts this next year?

11168
05:57:58,537 --> 05:58:00,672
>> We now have Doctor Cohn and

11169
05:58:00,672 --> 05:58:02,507
his team dive into it. And we

11170
05:58:02,507 --> 05:58:04,642
don't I know we push out a lot

11171
05:58:04,642 --> 05:58:06,780
of throughout the year this

11172
05:58:06,780 --> 05:58:07,346
year before Doctor Cohn dives

11173
05:58:07,346 --> 05:58:08,479
into it throughout the year.

11174
05:58:08,479 --> 05:58:11,482
This year we've pushed out a

11175
05:58:11,482 --> 05:58:12,918
lot of voluntary coursework.

11176
05:58:12,918 --> 05:58:14,419
That or professional

11177
05:58:14,419 --> 05:58:15,853
development that teachers and

11178
05:58:15,853 --> 05:58:17,222
also district staff can dive

11179
05:58:17,222 --> 05:58:19,491
into to learn more about

11180
05:58:19,491 --> 05:58:20,959
copilot and how to leverage it.

11181
05:58:20,959 --> 05:58:22,594
And so I know we've been doing

11182
05:58:22,594 --> 05:58:24,496
that all year. We don't have a

11183
05:58:24,496 --> 05:58:25,597
lot of time with teachers prior

11184
05:58:25,597 --> 05:58:27,499
to this, to students coming

11185
05:58:27,499 --> 05:58:28,767
back only a couple of days, but

11186
05:58:28,767 --> 05:58:30,903
I'll let Doctor Cohn dive into

11187
05:58:30,903 --> 05:58:32,704
what they plan on offering.

11188
05:58:32,704 --> 05:58:34,873
>> Sure. So we've we've already

11189
05:58:34,873 --> 05:58:36,342
built a continuum of ai

11190
05:58:36,342 --> 05:58:37,776
literacy courses and

11191
05:58:37,776 --> 05:58:39,945
specifically also around Magic

11192
05:58:39,945 --> 05:58:42,882
School for all of the liaisons

11193
05:58:42,882 --> 05:58:45,683
on JUNE 5th, eighth and ninth,

11194
05:58:45,683 --> 05:58:47,819
we had all administrators come

11195
05:58:47,819 --> 05:58:49,421
in, engage in ai literacy. The

11196
05:58:49,421 --> 05:58:51,790
whole continuum was all about

11197
05:58:51,790 --> 05:58:53,259
ai literacy and all of our

11198
05:58:53,259 --> 05:58:54,393
implementation. That's where

11199
05:58:54,393 --> 05:58:55,661
parents were able to come.

11200
05:58:55,661 --> 05:58:56,761
Students were able to come,

11201
05:58:56,761 --> 05:58:58,264
teachers were able to come with

11202
05:58:58,264 --> 05:58:59,698
the plan. They had pre-work

11203
05:58:59,698 --> 05:59:00,866
that they had to do. The

11204
05:59:00,866 --> 05:59:03,100
pre-work was they had to

11205
05:59:03,100 --> 05:59:05,170
develop their own school based

11206
05:59:05,170 --> 05:59:06,204
ai plan that they would

11207
05:59:06,204 --> 05:59:08,700
implement during pre planning

11208
05:59:08,700 --> 05:59:10,309
week. So they had three full

11209
05:59:10,309 --> 05:59:11,910
days of learning because what

11210
05:59:11,910 --> 05:59:13,179
they asked for is that we want

11211
05:59:13,179 --> 05:59:14,980
to bring our laptops, we want

11212
05:59:14,980 --> 05:59:16,882
to learn it, and then we want

11213
05:59:16,882 --> 05:59:17,984
to be able to implement it.

11214
05:59:17,984 --> 05:59:19,185
Then over the summer, because

11215
05:59:19,185 --> 05:59:20,953
as Doctor Hepburn shared, it is

11216
05:59:20,953 --> 05:59:22,488
voluntary for teachers. We will

11217
05:59:22,488 --> 05:59:23,589
have hot labs available for

11218
05:59:23,589 --> 05:59:25,291
those teachers who are your

11219
05:59:25,291 --> 05:59:27,930
high fliers. They're ready to

11220
05:59:27,930 --> 05:59:28,894
go. They want to learn more

11221
05:59:28,894 --> 05:59:30,290
than before they get to pre

11222
05:59:30,290 --> 05:59:31,763
planning week. So those are

11223
05:59:31,763 --> 05:59:33,332
being staged already right now.

11224
05:59:33,332 --> 05:59:35,768
And then that first week of pre

11225
05:59:35,768 --> 05:59:37,537
planning week, the principal

11226
05:59:37,537 --> 05:59:40,405
the ai liaisons are working in

11227
05:59:40,405 --> 05:59:41,840
tandem to roll out ai in magic

11228
05:59:41,840 --> 05:59:42,875
school.

11229
05:59:42,875 --> 05:59:43,342
>> Terrific. I have.

11230
05:59:43,342 --> 05:59:44,744
>> a.

11231
05:59:44,744 --> 05:59:47,144
>> Few hundred hours of

11232
05:59:47,279 --> 05:59:49,882
training people on ai. And it's

11233
05:59:49,882 --> 05:59:51,184
fascinating how quickly

11234
05:59:51,184 --> 05:59:52,652
awareness and experience and

11235
05:59:52,652 --> 05:59:54,453
utilization of the tools

11236
05:59:54,453 --> 05:59:55,921
changes people's opinions about

11237
05:59:55,921 --> 05:59:57,890
it. And there's this amazing,

11238
05:59:57,890 --> 05:59:58,692
you know, the super risk that

11239
05:59:58,692 --> 05:59:59,892
people that can only see the

11240
05:59:59,892 --> 06:00:01,661
risks and there's people that

11241
06:00:01,661 --> 06:00:02,829
can only see the benefits, and

11242
06:00:02,829 --> 06:00:03,796
there's this amazing kind of

11243
06:00:03,796 --> 06:00:05,564
graduation toward the middle

11244
06:00:05,564 --> 06:00:06,599
where people with more

11245
06:00:06,599 --> 06:00:08,800
experience hundreds of hours

11246
06:00:08,800 --> 06:00:10,690
after a while of using these

11247
06:00:10,690 --> 06:00:11,270
tools, realize, yes, there's

11248
06:00:11,270 --> 06:00:12,372
some risk. And yes, there's

11249
06:00:12,372 --> 06:00:13,506
some really cool things. It

11250
06:00:13,506 --> 06:00:15,275
doesn't do everything. It does

11251
06:00:15,275 --> 06:00:17,420
a subset of things and the

11252
06:00:17,420 --> 06:00:18,711
risks can be mitigated. But

11253
06:00:18,711 --> 06:00:20,346
there is tremendous opportunity

11254
06:00:20,346 --> 06:00:21,981
in doing that. I'm worried a

11255
06:00:21,981 --> 06:00:23,116
little bit about liaisons as a

11256
06:00:23,116 --> 06:00:24,717
method as well. We're relying

11257
06:00:24,717 --> 06:00:26,119
on these liaisons. I think it's

11258
06:00:26,119 --> 06:00:26,986
one per school. Is that correct?

11259
06:00:26,986 --> 06:00:28,986
>> Yes, sir.

11260
06:00:29,389 --> 06:00:30,757
>> And do we fund their

11261
06:00:30,757 --> 06:00:32,892
participation fully? Yes. For

11262
06:00:32,892 --> 06:00:35,892
example, I'm sorry. We do.

11263
06:00:36,196 --> 06:00:37,464
>> Yes. We pay them a stipend.

11264
06:00:37,464 --> 06:00:40,165
>> What kind of attendance do

11265
06:00:40,165 --> 06:00:41,000
you get at at liaison training

11266
06:00:41,000 --> 06:00:42,669
sessions, I think usually held

11267
06:00:42,669 --> 06:00:44,370
on the weekends.

11268
06:00:44,370 --> 06:00:45,171
>> Well, we we scheduled some

11269
06:00:45,171 --> 06:00:46,773
of them after hours. We

11270
06:00:46,773 --> 06:00:48,174
schedule some of them on the

11271
06:00:48,174 --> 06:00:50,910
weekends. In this case, like

11272
06:00:50,910 --> 06:00:53,846
with the days with the JUNE 5th,

11273
06:00:53,846 --> 06:00:55,649
they all came because it was

11274
06:00:55,649 --> 06:00:57,550
the. I think it was the last

11275
06:00:57,550 --> 06:00:59,919
day of school was a Friday and

11276
06:00:59,919 --> 06:01:01,754
they were paid. So through the

11277
06:01:01,754 --> 06:01:04,154
generous donation of the

11278
06:01:04,323 --> 06:01:06,459
wieners, they. We did build in

11279
06:01:06,459 --> 06:01:08,261
funding to bring them back, pay

11280
06:01:08,261 --> 06:01:09,762
them and compensate them and

11281
06:01:09,762 --> 06:01:11,640
actually pay them more than

11282
06:01:11,640 --> 06:01:12,565
what we typically would have

11283
06:01:12,565 --> 06:01:14,340
paid them. So they're getting

11284
06:01:14,340 --> 06:01:14,835
we're really ready to

11285
06:01:14,835 --> 06:01:16,569
compensate them even higher

11286
06:01:16,569 --> 06:01:18,605
than what we typically have as

11287
06:01:18,605 --> 06:01:19,805
an incentive. One of the things

11288
06:01:19,805 --> 06:01:21,909
it is a challenge in terms of

11289
06:01:21,909 --> 06:01:23,744
making sure that we get

11290
06:01:23,744 --> 06:01:25,512
everyone showing up. And so one

11291
06:01:25,512 --> 06:01:27,314
of our tasks over the summer is

11292
06:01:27,314 --> 06:01:29,449
to take a look at those schools

11293
06:01:29,449 --> 06:01:31,318
that didn't show up and what's

11294
06:01:31,318 --> 06:01:32,753
the, what's the implementation,

11295
06:01:32,753 --> 06:01:34,120
implementation, implementation

11296
06:01:34,120 --> 06:01:35,556
plan to make sure that those

11297
06:01:35,556 --> 06:01:37,290
schools that were not available,

11298
06:01:37,290 --> 06:01:38,492
how do we catch them up? But

11299
06:01:38,492 --> 06:01:38,759
the administrators were they're

11300
06:01:38,759 --> 06:01:40,360
terrific.

11301
06:01:40,360 --> 06:01:42,360
>> I'm just fascinated

11302
06:01:42,463 --> 06:01:43,530
sometimes that we we get the

11303
06:01:43,530 --> 06:01:45,332
PowerPoint right. And then when

11304
06:01:45,332 --> 06:01:46,800
it gets to execution, we just

11305
06:01:46,800 --> 06:01:48,168
haven't funded it to the point

11306
06:01:48,168 --> 06:01:49,100
where we get excellent

11307
06:01:49,100 --> 06:01:50,704
execution. Everyone wants the

11308
06:01:50,704 --> 06:01:52,473
right thing to happen, but we

11309
06:01:52,473 --> 06:01:53,606
get light on, on the

11310
06:01:53,606 --> 06:01:56,109
supplements or the extra hours

11311
06:01:56,109 --> 06:01:58,312
and things like that. To me,

11312
06:01:58,312 --> 06:02:00,460
that's a, you know, we, we just

11313
06:02:00,460 --> 06:02:01,881
probably need to see a budget

11314
06:02:01,881 --> 06:02:03,684
item on what right looks like,

11315
06:02:03,684 --> 06:02:04,785
like what is the funding

11316
06:02:04,785 --> 06:02:05,953
required to get this right,

11317
06:02:05,953 --> 06:02:08,321
both to mitigate the risks and

11318
06:02:08,321 --> 06:02:10,124
to enhance the benefits of ai

11319
06:02:10,124 --> 06:02:11,324
so that people are funded. Well,

11320
06:02:11,324 --> 06:02:13,590
and maybe the supplements are

11321
06:02:13,590 --> 06:02:14,161
good, but maybe it needs to be

11322
06:02:14,161 --> 06:02:16,630
a bigger supplement and we need

11323
06:02:16,630 --> 06:02:17,264
to have more standards for them.

11324
06:02:17,264 --> 06:02:19,330
Because if we're paying them to

11325
06:02:19,330 --> 06:02:20,200
do something, I think then we

11326
06:02:20,200 --> 06:02:21,135
can have standards, we can have

11327
06:02:21,135 --> 06:02:23,300
certifications, we can have

11328
06:02:23,300 --> 06:02:24,138
things that they ought to be

11329
06:02:24,138 --> 06:02:26,600
earning in order to get that

11330
06:02:26,600 --> 06:02:27,140
supplement. And we just need to

11331
06:02:27,140 --> 06:02:29,760
make that kind of a closed

11332
06:02:29,760 --> 06:02:30,210
cycle. I'll leave that for you.

11333
06:02:30,210 --> 06:02:31,946
Actually, if you could, Doctor

11334
06:02:31,946 --> 06:02:33,214
Hepburn, could we have a follow

11335
06:02:33,214 --> 06:02:35,160
up on that? How could you tell

11336
06:02:35,160 --> 06:02:36,183
us what the whole requirement

11337
06:02:36,183 --> 06:02:37,952
for funding would be to have ai

11338
06:02:37,952 --> 06:02:39,850
liaisons that can help us

11339
06:02:39,850 --> 06:02:40,388
achieve the goals of Broward

11340
06:02:40,388 --> 06:02:41,922
County schools.

11341
06:02:41,922 --> 06:02:43,323
>> As a separate, full time

11342
06:02:43,323 --> 06:02:43,658
role? Are you talking about

11343
06:02:43,658 --> 06:02:44,825
supplements?

11344
06:02:44,825 --> 06:02:46,860
>> Whatever you want to do, I

11345
06:02:46,860 --> 06:02:48,729
just want to know kind of what

11346
06:02:48,729 --> 06:02:50,164
is the 100% requirement for the

11347
06:02:50,164 --> 06:02:51,999
liaisons to make sure that we

11348
06:02:51,999 --> 06:02:53,367
get the full benefit of ai to

11349
06:02:53,367 --> 06:02:54,468
achieve our strategic goals?

11350
06:02:54,468 --> 06:02:56,237
Because if you've used Magic

11351
06:02:56,237 --> 06:02:57,271
School, if you've dove into

11352
06:02:57,271 --> 06:02:58,372
large language models, if

11353
06:02:58,372 --> 06:03:00,241
you've seen some of the

11354
06:03:00,241 --> 06:03:01,542
advantages that there is for an

11355
06:03:01,542 --> 06:03:03,277
education space and some ways

11356
06:03:03,277 --> 06:03:05,979
to mitigate the risks, there's

11357
06:03:05,979 --> 06:03:07,382
a tremendous upside. And that

11358
06:03:07,382 --> 06:03:08,649
upside kind of changes people's

11359
06:03:08,649 --> 06:03:10,651
opinions about this technology

11360
06:03:10,651 --> 06:03:12,530
when they see it. But if we

11361
06:03:12,530 --> 06:03:14,188
underfund the requirement for

11362
06:03:14,188 --> 06:03:16,570
these liaisons or the or the or

11363
06:03:16,570 --> 06:03:17,458
the staff hours, we need to

11364
06:03:17,458 --> 06:03:19,260
train teachers and train

11365
06:03:19,260 --> 06:03:20,561
administrators to do it. It can

11366
06:03:20,561 --> 06:03:21,896
die just because we didn't fund

11367
06:03:21,896 --> 06:03:23,630
it well enough. And so you get

11368
06:03:23,630 --> 06:03:26,166
kind of the, the, the early

11369
06:03:26,166 --> 06:03:28,236
adopters doing it, some of the

11370
06:03:28,236 --> 06:03:29,304
high fliers, but you get too

11371
06:03:29,304 --> 06:03:30,405
many people that are just

11372
06:03:30,405 --> 06:03:32,307
dragging along. And so I'd love

11373
06:03:32,307 --> 06:03:35,810
to know what the requirement is

11374
06:03:35,810 --> 06:03:36,811
to fund the teachers and

11375
06:03:36,811 --> 06:03:37,644
administrators to make sure

11376
06:03:37,644 --> 06:03:39,480
that our professional

11377
06:03:39,480 --> 06:03:41,282
development is, is funded and

11378
06:03:41,282 --> 06:03:44,282
fully attended to the point

11379
06:03:44,819 --> 06:03:47,355
where we have our staff passing

11380
06:03:47,355 --> 06:03:49,891
certifications in ai and in

11381
06:03:49,891 --> 06:03:51,826
specific tools. Thank you.

11382
06:03:51,826 --> 06:03:53,610
Doctor Hepburn, just a question

11383
06:03:53,610 --> 06:03:56,661
to you. That's all. Thank you

11384
06:03:59,934 --> 06:04:02,103
sir. MISS Leonardi, did you ask

11385
06:04:02,103 --> 06:04:03,505
for consensus on a website

11386
06:04:03,505 --> 06:04:05,674
that's related to what our ai

11387
06:04:05,674 --> 06:04:07,509
plan looks like?

11388
06:04:07,509 --> 06:04:10,509
>> I asked for consensus around

11389
06:04:11,445 --> 06:04:12,580
the implementation plan being a

11390
06:04:12,580 --> 06:04:14,150
public facing.

11391
06:04:14,150 --> 06:04:15,717
>> I think that that works for

11392
06:04:15,717 --> 06:04:18,319
my what my intent was going to

11393
06:04:18,319 --> 06:04:20,121
be as well. Lastly, on the

11394
06:04:20,121 --> 06:04:21,389
resources, you know, we we've

11395
06:04:21,389 --> 06:04:23,225
got a small investment, believe

11396
06:04:23,225 --> 06:04:24,426
it or not, in ai tools, there's

11397
06:04:24,426 --> 06:04:26,895
so many other tools that would

11398
06:04:26,895 --> 06:04:28,896
just, you know, set us apart

11399
06:04:28,896 --> 06:04:31,233
over time. I know we've got

11400
06:04:31,233 --> 06:04:33,135
this absolutely wonderful thing

11401
06:04:33,135 --> 06:04:34,502
called ai liaisons, and it's an

11402
06:04:34,502 --> 06:04:35,704
incredible thing to pull them

11403
06:04:35,704 --> 06:04:37,372
together. I want to make sure

11404
06:04:37,372 --> 06:04:38,907
that they're fully funded and

11405
06:04:38,907 --> 06:04:40,842
fully, like prepared to kind of

11406
06:04:40,842 --> 06:04:41,943
do their whole job and that we

11407
06:04:41,943 --> 06:04:43,780
hold them accountable for doing

11408
06:04:43,780 --> 06:04:44,845
that. The other piece to this,

11409
06:04:44,845 --> 06:04:47,149
though, is really student and

11410
06:04:47,149 --> 06:04:48,383
teacher time. If we teach ai as

11411
06:04:48,383 --> 06:04:49,618
a separate course, which I've

11412
06:04:49,618 --> 06:04:52,180
never recommended and I've

11413
06:04:52,220 --> 06:04:53,956
never seen it be successful, I

11414
06:04:53,956 --> 06:04:56,123
get that that would take, you

11415
06:04:56,123 --> 06:04:57,926
know, normal time built into a

11416
06:04:57,926 --> 06:04:58,794
school schedule. If we bake ai

11417
06:04:58,794 --> 06:05:00,328
into the work that they're

11418
06:05:00,328 --> 06:05:01,429
already doing, though, so that

11419
06:05:01,429 --> 06:05:03,365
they're doing work and they get

11420
06:05:03,365 --> 06:05:04,565
to see the advantages of doing

11421
06:05:04,565 --> 06:05:05,634
it, that also takes more time

11422
06:05:05,634 --> 06:05:07,369
from the teacher understanding

11423
06:05:07,369 --> 06:05:08,537
that they can do it. And then

11424
06:05:08,537 --> 06:05:09,638
from the student learning both

11425
06:05:09,638 --> 06:05:11,573
the content that they're trying

11426
06:05:11,573 --> 06:05:14,143
to study, you know, history,

11427
06:05:14,143 --> 06:05:15,277
American history, ap class and

11428
06:05:15,277 --> 06:05:16,979
learn the tools that they could

11429
06:05:16,979 --> 06:05:18,446
use to bring that in as an

11430
06:05:18,446 --> 06:05:20,820
instructional resource. Do we

11431
06:05:20,820 --> 06:05:21,149
have the time to do that?

11432
06:05:21,149 --> 06:05:23,853
Doctor Hepburn baked into our

11433
06:05:23,853 --> 06:05:25,654
classes.

11434
06:05:25,654 --> 06:05:26,789
>> Time.

11435
06:05:26,789 --> 06:05:28,123
>> It's really more time,

11436
06:05:28,123 --> 06:05:29,992
though. Like, like, here's the

11437
06:05:29,992 --> 06:05:31,393
deal. You're in history, ap,

11438
06:05:31,393 --> 06:05:32,560
you write a great paper about,

11439
06:05:32,560 --> 06:05:34,263
you know, what would have

11440
06:05:34,263 --> 06:05:36,198
happened if the South had won

11441
06:05:36,198 --> 06:05:37,366
the Civil War. And you just sit

11442
06:05:37,366 --> 06:05:38,467
down and you write it the old

11443
06:05:38,467 --> 06:05:40,369
fashioned way, it's great.

11444
06:05:40,369 --> 06:05:42,304
Right? And then all of a sudden,

11445
06:05:42,304 --> 06:05:43,439
you know, to use ai to enhance

11446
06:05:43,439 --> 06:05:44,472
what you know, so that you're

11447
06:05:44,472 --> 06:05:46,141
diving into experiences,

11448
06:05:46,141 --> 06:05:47,900
gaining more resources, more

11449
06:05:47,900 --> 06:05:48,610
citations, and more thought

11450
06:05:48,610 --> 06:05:49,812
about it. And then you go to

11451
06:05:49,812 --> 06:05:51,514
write it. There's more time.

11452
06:05:51,514 --> 06:05:52,647
And what I'm concerned about is

11453
06:05:52,647 --> 06:05:54,830
that teachers are going to

11454
06:05:54,830 --> 06:05:55,617
continue to assign 12 essays a

11455
06:05:55,617 --> 06:05:57,553
year, but we really want them

11456
06:05:57,553 --> 06:05:58,753
to use all these new tools. And

11457
06:05:58,753 --> 06:06:00,623
it takes it just takes longer.

11458
06:06:00,623 --> 06:06:02,591
Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 times

11459
06:06:02,591 --> 06:06:03,825
as long to do it. I just hope

11460
06:06:03,825 --> 06:06:05,627
that we think about that when.

11461
06:06:05,627 --> 06:06:06,662
>> Yes, I so I'm very

11462
06:06:06,662 --> 06:06:07,829
empathetic to classroom

11463
06:06:07,829 --> 06:06:10,299
teachers because I used to be

11464
06:06:10,299 --> 06:06:12,234
one. And, and there's been many

11465
06:06:12,234 --> 06:06:13,903
things. Mandates from districts

11466
06:06:13,903 --> 06:06:15,638
and from the state of, you know,

11467
06:06:15,638 --> 06:06:16,872
that takes up a lot of time

11468
06:06:16,872 --> 06:06:17,873
besides what teachers love to

11469
06:06:17,873 --> 06:06:19,275
do, which is supporting

11470
06:06:19,275 --> 06:06:20,408
students. So we're very

11471
06:06:20,408 --> 06:06:21,811
empathetic to that. And as we

11472
06:06:21,811 --> 06:06:23,245
roll out, as we train, we're

11473
06:06:23,245 --> 06:06:25,748
thinking about that aspect. And

11474
06:06:25,748 --> 06:06:27,583
the whole goal, for the most

11475
06:06:27,583 --> 06:06:29,385
part, for the use of ai in the

11476
06:06:29,385 --> 06:06:31,920
classroom, is for teachers to

11477
06:06:31,920 --> 06:06:33,222
regain back awesome time.

11478
06:06:33,222 --> 06:06:34,357
>> And I'm not interested in a

11479
06:06:34,357 --> 06:06:36,225
mandate. Last question that I

11480
06:06:36,225 --> 06:06:38,694
have. Why are we only doing

11481
06:06:38,694 --> 06:06:40,496
this at Nova?

11482
06:06:40,496 --> 06:06:40,929
>> The ai Academy, the ai

11483
06:06:40,929 --> 06:06:42,698
Academy?

11484
06:06:42,698 --> 06:06:45,567
>> Yeah. I mean, the benefits

11485
06:06:45,567 --> 06:06:47,300
to ai are true for 224 schools

11486
06:06:47,300 --> 06:06:48,438
and we're doing it for five.

11487
06:06:48,438 --> 06:06:50,974
Well, why are we doing that?

11488
06:06:50,974 --> 06:06:52,742
>> So I want to be very

11489
06:06:52,742 --> 06:06:54,544
thoughtful about the answer.

11490
06:06:54,544 --> 06:06:55,745
And, you know, we have magnets,

11491
06:06:55,745 --> 06:06:56,845
specific magnets at certain

11492
06:06:56,845 --> 06:06:58,681
schools around the district,

11493
06:06:58,681 --> 06:06:59,916
right? So we can say the same

11494
06:06:59,916 --> 06:07:01,683
thing. Why aren't we doing this

11495
06:07:01,683 --> 06:07:02,852
magnet at all the other schools?

11496
06:07:02,852 --> 06:07:04,620
But Nova, from the history

11497
06:07:04,620 --> 06:07:06,956
lesson I received, was opened

11498
06:07:06,956 --> 06:07:08,158
up as a specific type of school

11499
06:07:08,158 --> 06:07:09,725
that was different than any

11500
06:07:09,725 --> 06:07:12,195
other, the whole complex, right?

11501
06:07:12,195 --> 06:07:13,296
Elementary up to to high school.

11502
06:07:13,296 --> 06:07:14,697
It's offering the same thing

11503
06:07:14,697 --> 06:07:16,533
that every school offers right

11504
06:07:16,533 --> 06:07:18,635
now. And it provides an

11505
06:07:18,635 --> 06:07:20,837
opportunity for, for us as a

11506
06:07:20,837 --> 06:07:23,237
district to start somewhere.

11507
06:07:23,706 --> 06:07:25,241
And this is the prime

11508
06:07:25,241 --> 06:07:28,440
innovation zone to start such

11509
06:07:28,440 --> 06:07:30,179
an initiative to become that

11510
06:07:30,179 --> 06:07:31,647
lab school k through 12, doing

11511
06:07:31,647 --> 06:07:33,830
innovative things that we can

11512
06:07:33,830 --> 06:07:35,618
eventually, once we proof it

11513
06:07:35,618 --> 06:07:37,387
there and provide a level of

11514
06:07:37,387 --> 06:07:38,822
assurance that it's working for

11515
06:07:38,822 --> 06:07:40,624
students and staff, then we can

11516
06:07:40,624 --> 06:07:42,826
start scaling it out elsewhere.

11517
06:07:42,826 --> 06:07:44,594
I will be very reluctant to

11518
06:07:44,594 --> 06:07:46,162
just scale across the district

11519
06:07:46,162 --> 06:07:49,162
with such an initiative, when

11520
06:07:49,699 --> 06:07:52,990
we haven't really thoughtfully

11521
06:07:52,167 --> 06:07:53,903
built the the opportunity and

11522
06:07:53,903 --> 06:07:55,138
proof the concept the way we

11523
06:07:55,138 --> 06:07:56,720
need to before we scale it out

11524
06:07:56,720 --> 06:07:57,907
somewhere else.

11525
06:07:57,907 --> 06:07:59,909
>> And if I could just add a

11526
06:07:59,909 --> 06:08:01,144
lot of this is DR. Zeman is

11527
06:08:01,144 --> 06:08:02,244
going to be built out.

11528
06:08:02,244 --> 06:08:05,244
Classrooms will have to be

11529
06:08:06,549 --> 06:08:09,252
built out. We are looking for

11530
06:08:09,252 --> 06:08:11,321
donors, anthropic agencncs t

11531
06:08:11,321 --> 06:08:13,423
helplp us build some of thiout.

11532
06:08:13,423 --> 06:08:16,293
Me o of ts wilill require a ton

11533
06:08:16,293 --> 06:08:18,950
of resources and commitment.

11534
06:08:18,950 --> 06:08:19,529
Microsoft right now is

11535
06:08:19,529 --> 06:08:20,998
potentially committing a

11536
06:08:20,998 --> 06:08:22,799
project manager to something

11537
06:08:22,799 --> 06:08:24,935
like this. And so there are

11538
06:08:24,935 --> 06:08:25,936
there are like 12 different

11539
06:08:25,936 --> 06:08:27,471
subcommittees that when we

11540
06:08:27,471 --> 06:08:29,639
think about writing curriculum

11541
06:08:29,639 --> 06:08:31,875
that are that are focused on

11542
06:08:31,875 --> 06:08:33,609
content or industry level, all

11543
06:08:33,609 --> 06:08:35,780
the way from k through five,

11544
06:08:35,780 --> 06:08:36,479
the different kinds of

11545
06:08:36,479 --> 06:08:38,879
technology that we're building

11546
06:08:39,349 --> 06:08:41,518
in. Also the fact that the, the

11547
06:08:41,518 --> 06:08:44,210
Nova site itself is primed

11548
06:08:44,210 --> 06:08:45,823
because it has the Nova, the

11549
06:08:45,823 --> 06:08:47,290
fau, the Broward College, the

11550
06:08:47,290 --> 06:08:49,125
students can walk over. And so

11551
06:08:49,125 --> 06:08:50,894
when we look at a model school,

11552
06:08:50,894 --> 06:08:51,996
something like this, it is

11553
06:08:51,996 --> 06:08:53,730
primed to do something like

11554
06:08:53,730 --> 06:08:55,499
this. But it's a huge

11555
06:08:55,499 --> 06:08:56,967
commitment from investors to

11556
06:08:56,967 --> 06:08:59,236
say, we're going to build this

11557
06:08:59,236 --> 06:09:00,971
out in these rooms out and

11558
06:09:00,971 --> 06:09:02,306
scale them up. And then also

11559
06:09:02,306 --> 06:09:04,542
thinking about the fact that

11560
06:09:04,542 --> 06:09:06,710
we're giving teachers more time

11561
06:09:06,710 --> 06:09:08,479
beyond their contracted time to

11562
06:09:08,479 --> 06:09:10,314
be able to do this. We've got

11563
06:09:10,314 --> 06:09:11,515
to go a little bit slower to

11564
06:09:11,515 --> 06:09:13,417
really think about how this

11565
06:09:13,417 --> 06:09:15,180
model is going to look just at

11566
06:09:15,180 --> 06:09:16,787
these schools, and then think

11567
06:09:16,787 --> 06:09:17,855
about how it's going to look

11568
06:09:17,855 --> 06:09:18,989
elsewhere. We did have an

11569
06:09:18,989 --> 06:09:21,910
opportunity to look at Alpha

11570
06:09:21,910 --> 06:09:23,561
Schools, Alpha schools over at

11571
06:09:23,561 --> 06:09:25,960
Miami-Dade is trying to do

11572
06:09:25,960 --> 06:09:26,897
something like this, but it's

11573
06:09:26,897 --> 06:09:27,964
nowhere near the scale and the

11574
06:09:27,964 --> 06:09:30,501
capacity that we're looking at

11575
06:09:30,501 --> 06:09:33,404
Nova, we're talking about, we

11576
06:09:33,404 --> 06:09:34,405
connect a fortune 500 company

11577
06:09:34,405 --> 06:09:36,606
within Fort Lauderdale, and

11578
06:09:36,606 --> 06:09:39,143
they partner with the Nova

11579
06:09:39,143 --> 06:09:41,278
schools. They send their

11580
06:09:41,278 --> 06:09:43,278
corporate executives, they

11581
06:09:43,547 --> 06:09:44,882
partner with certain schools,

11582
06:09:44,882 --> 06:09:46,784
certain grade levels of

11583
06:09:46,784 --> 06:09:48,419
students who want to, let's say,

11584
06:09:48,419 --> 06:09:51,322
be a business executive, be an

11585
06:09:51,322 --> 06:09:53,890
attorney. And we create

11586
06:09:53,890 --> 06:09:54,925
pathways and curriculum design

11587
06:09:54,925 --> 06:09:57,280
that's integrated into the

11588
06:09:57,280 --> 06:09:58,463
standards. And now you have

11589
06:09:58,463 --> 06:09:59,964
corporations have skin in the

11590
06:09:59,964 --> 06:10:01,265
game because now these

11591
06:10:01,265 --> 06:10:02,766
executives are coming from all

11592
06:10:02,766 --> 06:10:04,202
of these corporations and

11593
06:10:04,202 --> 06:10:05,669
they're tying themselves to

11594
06:10:05,669 --> 06:10:07,500
these schools and they're

11595
06:10:07,500 --> 06:10:08,205
building these relationships.

11596
06:10:08,205 --> 06:10:09,607
They're building the

11597
06:10:09,607 --> 06:10:11,750
opportunity for students

11598
06:10:11,750 --> 06:10:12,476
eventually, as they go to the

11599
06:10:12,476 --> 06:10:14,312
universities to say, now you

11600
06:10:14,312 --> 06:10:15,379
have a relationship with this

11601
06:10:15,379 --> 06:10:17,215
corporation, you mentored them

11602
06:10:17,215 --> 06:10:18,616
throughout the k-12 experience,

11603
06:10:18,616 --> 06:10:19,984
and now you're seeking

11604
06:10:19,984 --> 06:10:21,152
employment. Now you know this

11605
06:10:21,152 --> 06:10:22,219
person firsthand because you

11606
06:10:22,219 --> 06:10:23,988
knew them in kindergarten. You

11607
06:10:23,988 --> 06:10:25,789
knew them in first grade.

11608
06:10:25,789 --> 06:10:27,592
There's just this whole world

11609
06:10:27,592 --> 06:10:29,930
that we're looking to really

11610
06:10:29,930 --> 06:10:31,493
redesign this public education

11611
06:10:31,963 --> 06:10:34,165
space, using the community as

11612
06:10:34,165 --> 06:10:36,267
part of that network. And so

11613
06:10:36,267 --> 06:10:38,736
when you say, can you replicate

11614
06:10:38,736 --> 06:10:40,571
this? Perhaps, but in order to

11615
06:10:40,571 --> 06:10:42,774
perfect it, we've got to start

11616
06:10:42,774 --> 06:10:44,576
small and make sure we get the

11617
06:10:44,576 --> 06:10:46,100
coalition of the willing to say

11618
06:10:46,100 --> 06:10:47,411
that they believe in something

11619
06:10:47,411 --> 06:10:49,214
like this. And we already have

11620
06:10:49,214 --> 06:10:51,480
that. The interest is there.

11621
06:10:51,480 --> 06:10:52,784
Now we just need to firm this

11622
06:10:52,784 --> 06:10:53,518
up based on today's board

11623
06:10:53,518 --> 06:10:55,518
direction.

11624
06:10:57,154 --> 06:10:58,689
>> So I just I don't see that.

11625
06:10:58,689 --> 06:11:00,425
Like, I just, I frankly don't

11626
06:11:00,425 --> 06:11:02,460
see that this technology is

11627
06:11:02,460 --> 06:11:03,595
right here. Yeah, I don't need

11628
06:11:03,595 --> 06:11:04,662
any special classrooms. I don't

11629
06:11:04,662 --> 06:11:06,530
need corporations coming in

11630
06:11:06,530 --> 06:11:08,699
here and getting in my way.

11631
06:11:08,699 --> 06:11:10,135
What I need is, is everybody in

11632
06:11:10,135 --> 06:11:11,503
Broward County having the

11633
06:11:11,503 --> 06:11:13,138
opportunity to learn what we

11634
06:11:13,138 --> 06:11:15,106
can give them. And when you

11635
06:11:15,106 --> 06:11:17,700
centralize this in one place

11636
06:11:17,700 --> 06:11:18,577
and five schools and we have

11637
06:11:18,577 --> 06:11:19,644
224 schools, I have to tell the

11638
06:11:19,644 --> 06:11:21,546
parents of 219 schools, their

11639
06:11:21,546 --> 06:11:22,714
kids don't get it as fast as

11640
06:11:22,714 --> 06:11:24,916
other people. And that's a cost

11641
06:11:24,916 --> 06:11:26,500
of doing this in a kind of a

11642
06:11:26,500 --> 06:11:28,386
traditional rollout model where

11643
06:11:28,386 --> 06:11:30,121
you find a pilot organization,

11644
06:11:30,121 --> 06:11:31,557
you do it that way. I don't

11645
06:11:31,557 --> 06:11:32,490
find any value in corporations

11646
06:11:32,490 --> 06:11:33,891
getting in the way of our

11647
06:11:33,891 --> 06:11:35,260
teachers and our administrators

11648
06:11:35,260 --> 06:11:37,660
executing this. Our equipment

11649
06:11:38,196 --> 06:11:41,196
is right here. It costs 220,

11650
06:11:41,466 --> 06:11:43,235
$250 per student. I just don't

11651
06:11:43,235 --> 06:11:44,736
understand. I think the trade

11652
06:11:44,736 --> 06:11:46,838
off between not giving what we

11653
06:11:46,838 --> 06:11:49,838
know works to everybody isn't

11654
06:11:50,750 --> 06:11:52,210
worth the cost of of doing some

11655
06:11:52,210 --> 06:11:53,311
pilot as if this is like a

11656
06:11:53,311 --> 06:11:55,548
automobile repair where you

11657
06:11:55,548 --> 06:11:57,583
need a $3 million, you know,

11658
06:11:57,583 --> 06:12:00,185
set of equipment to do it. The

11659
06:12:00,185 --> 06:12:03,185
equipment to this is ubiquitous.

11660
06:12:03,756 --> 06:12:04,523
The need is ubiquitous. Other

11661
06:12:04,523 --> 06:12:05,624
districts are doing it for

11662
06:12:05,624 --> 06:12:07,392
their district, and maybe

11663
06:12:07,392 --> 06:12:08,593
they're not going as fast as us.

11664
06:12:08,593 --> 06:12:10,328
And maybe what we're doing is

11665
06:12:10,328 --> 06:12:11,462
kind of incubating some great

11666
06:12:11,462 --> 06:12:14,166
ideas there, but still doing a

11667
06:12:14,166 --> 06:12:16,768
lot in the other 219 schools.

11668
06:12:16,768 --> 06:12:18,203
But just for me, I think that

11669
06:12:18,203 --> 06:12:19,971
there's got to be either we do

11670
06:12:19,971 --> 06:12:21,940
it at Nova and get get it out

11671
06:12:21,940 --> 06:12:23,776
next week to the other schools,

11672
06:12:23,776 --> 06:12:25,878
or we need to think about how

11673
06:12:25,878 --> 06:12:27,846
are we raising up all schools

11674
06:12:27,846 --> 06:12:29,348
to some level and then doing

11675
06:12:29,348 --> 06:12:31,449
some special things at Nova,

11676
06:12:31,449 --> 06:12:33,152
because I don't feel like this

11677
06:12:33,152 --> 06:12:34,419
is a technology. I mean, when

11678
06:12:34,419 --> 06:12:36,322
we rolled out the internet, did

11679
06:12:36,322 --> 06:12:37,489
we do it at a pilot site? No,

11680
06:12:37,489 --> 06:12:38,424
the internet went everywhere,

11681
06:12:38,424 --> 06:12:39,791
went through the universities,

11682
06:12:39,791 --> 06:12:42,595
went through corporate. I mean,

11683
06:12:42,595 --> 06:12:44,597
it's just more akin to a it

11684
06:12:44,597 --> 06:12:46,232
revolution than it is, you know,

11685
06:12:46,232 --> 06:12:48,990
a classic c taste thing. I mean,

11686
06:12:48,990 --> 06:12:49,902
it is related to c taste in the

11687
06:12:49,902 --> 06:12:51,137
sense that every jobs could be

11688
06:12:51,137 --> 06:12:53,380
related to ai in the future.

11689
06:12:53,380 --> 06:12:54,806
But I believe that that there's,

11690
06:12:54,806 --> 06:12:55,975
there's got to be some thought

11691
06:12:55,975 --> 06:12:57,343
about, you know, if we're going

11692
06:12:57,343 --> 06:12:59,912
to do something special at Nova,

11693
06:12:59,912 --> 06:13:02,800
I get that, but why would we

11694
06:13:02,800 --> 06:13:03,416
not do as much as we can for

11695
06:13:03,416 --> 06:13:04,517
224 schools? And that's a

11696
06:13:04,517 --> 06:13:05,718
thought question for you guys.

11697
06:13:05,718 --> 06:13:07,619
I'm not asking for an answer

11698
06:13:07,619 --> 06:13:09,554
right now, but I just don't see

11699
06:13:09,554 --> 06:13:11,123
anything in ai from my six

11700
06:13:11,123 --> 06:13:12,858
years of I was one of the

11701
06:13:12,858 --> 06:13:15,360
original beta users from open

11702
06:13:15,360 --> 06:13:17,196
ai. At the beginning of Covid,

11703
06:13:17,196 --> 06:13:18,898
I built large language models,

11704
06:13:18,898 --> 06:13:20,732
you know, to get organizations

11705
06:13:20,732 --> 06:13:22,435
to move forward with ai. The

11706
06:13:22,435 --> 06:13:24,103
whole organization goes forward.

11707
06:13:24,103 --> 06:13:25,438
It's a rising tide lifts all

11708
06:13:25,438 --> 06:13:28,600
ship. And it's not the kind of

11709
06:13:28,600 --> 06:13:29,442
thing that like a pilot in one

11710
06:13:29,442 --> 06:13:30,943
division of a corporation or

11711
06:13:30,943 --> 06:13:32,445
one part of a state agency has

11712
06:13:32,445 --> 06:13:34,470
ever been done. It's always

11713
06:13:34,470 --> 06:13:35,948
been done organizationally,

11714
06:13:35,948 --> 06:13:37,383
just like you roll out I.T

11715
06:13:37,383 --> 06:13:38,417
software, you roll out the

11716
06:13:38,417 --> 06:13:40,186
internet, you roll out, you

11717
06:13:40,186 --> 06:13:41,187
know, other kind of it

11718
06:13:41,187 --> 06:13:42,354
capabilities, and you do

11719
06:13:42,354 --> 06:13:43,823
massive training. What I worry

11720
06:13:43,823 --> 06:13:45,925
about is the brilliant kid at

11721
06:13:45,925 --> 06:13:47,794
Dillard High School that

11722
06:13:47,794 --> 06:13:49,596
doesn't get the cool stuff with

11723
06:13:49,596 --> 06:13:51,164
ai, because he didn't go to

11724
06:13:51,164 --> 06:13:53,132
Nova. And I have a. I just have

11725
06:13:53,132 --> 06:13:54,267
a hard time with that because

11726
06:13:54,267 --> 06:13:55,401
Nova is a wonderful place.

11727
06:13:55,401 --> 06:13:56,436
Pompano High School is a

11728
06:13:56,436 --> 06:13:58,671
wonderful place. Hallandale is

11729
06:13:58,671 --> 06:14:00,406
a great place, but we have a

11730
06:14:00,406 --> 06:14:01,274
lot of schools that are just

11731
06:14:01,274 --> 06:14:02,575
traditional boundary schools,

11732
06:14:02,575 --> 06:14:04,377
and I want to make sure they

11733
06:14:04,377 --> 06:14:05,278
get the advantages of ai as

11734
06:14:05,278 --> 06:14:05,511
fast as possible.

11735
06:14:05,511 --> 06:14:07,280
>> Yeah.

11736
06:14:07,280 --> 06:14:08,648
>> I appreciate that. And just

11737
06:14:08,648 --> 06:14:10,850
to clarify, we're not saying

11738
06:14:10,850 --> 06:14:13,190
that ai is only going to be

11739
06:14:13,190 --> 06:14:14,154
exclusive to the schools. Ai is

11740
06:14:14,154 --> 06:14:15,255
going to be at every.

11741
06:14:15,255 --> 06:14:16,222
>> Every school. Yeah, that's.

11742
06:14:16,222 --> 06:14:17,157
>> What I'm saying.

11743
06:14:17,157 --> 06:14:18,358
>> Is that.

11744
06:14:18,358 --> 06:14:20,193
>> Just be specific. What else

11745
06:14:20,193 --> 06:14:21,260
are you doing at Nova? Like fau

11746
06:14:21,260 --> 06:14:23,950
and Broward College are not

11747
06:14:23,950 --> 06:14:24,197
going to help you, man. Like

11748
06:14:24,197 --> 06:14:27,300
they don't know ai like the

11749
06:14:27,300 --> 06:14:29,168
faculty there don't get it. So

11750
06:14:29,168 --> 06:14:30,670
corporations are busy. Like

11751
06:14:30,670 --> 06:14:32,739
they're not going to come in

11752
06:14:32,739 --> 06:14:34,700
and donate enough time to make

11753
06:14:34,700 --> 06:14:35,842
a difference. What's going to

11754
06:14:35,842 --> 06:14:37,777
go on at Nova that's different

11755
06:14:37,777 --> 06:14:39,579
than at Dillard High School?

11756
06:14:39,579 --> 06:14:41,481
>> Yeah. So we, we actually

11757
06:14:41,481 --> 06:14:42,782
have some commitments from some

11758
06:14:42,782 --> 06:14:45,352
corporations as we speak. For

11759
06:14:45,352 --> 06:14:46,786
what commitment to partner with

11760
06:14:46,786 --> 06:14:49,550
Nova through workforce college,

11761
06:14:49,550 --> 06:14:51,257
career readiness, and to be a

11762
06:14:51,257 --> 06:14:52,926
part of this redesign where

11763
06:14:52,926 --> 06:14:54,394
we're actually. If students are

11764
06:14:54,394 --> 06:14:56,629
interested in certain fields of

11765
06:14:56,629 --> 06:14:59,320
study, where we see that

11766
06:14:59,320 --> 06:15:01,330
there's a pathway at Nova or

11767
06:15:01,330 --> 06:15:03,102
fau or Broward College for them

11768
06:15:03,102 --> 06:15:05,172
to continue at the higher ed or

11769
06:15:05,172 --> 06:15:06,373
the career technical, those

11770
06:15:06,373 --> 06:15:08,407
companies are coming in and

11771
06:15:08,407 --> 06:15:09,809
doing practical mentoring,

11772
06:15:09,809 --> 06:15:12,110
guiding them through the

11773
06:15:12,110 --> 06:15:14,411
process. We're also embedding

11774
06:15:14,548 --> 06:15:16,548
certain careers, instructional

11775
06:15:16,683 --> 06:15:18,185
career standards within the

11776
06:15:18,185 --> 06:15:19,553
curriculum where it's just not

11777
06:15:19,553 --> 06:15:22,522
standard space. But we're tying

11778
06:15:22,522 --> 06:15:23,556
things in to law and criminal

11779
06:15:23,556 --> 06:15:25,359
justice, and you'll see an

11780
06:15:25,359 --> 06:15:27,528
integration of curriculum and

11781
06:15:27,528 --> 06:15:28,962
project based learning at the

11782
06:15:28,962 --> 06:15:30,864
k-12. And so if a student comes

11783
06:15:30,864 --> 06:15:32,990
in in the second grade and say,

11784
06:15:32,990 --> 06:15:33,267
hey, I want to be a doctor,

11785
06:15:33,267 --> 06:15:35,667
well, there's an opportunity

11786
06:15:36,569 --> 06:15:38,271
for a medical field in, let's

11787
06:15:38,271 --> 06:15:40,740
say, Nova to come in and say,

11788
06:15:40,740 --> 06:15:41,141
let's integrate this. Let's

11789
06:15:41,141 --> 06:15:42,509
have the students in the

11790
06:15:42,509 --> 06:15:44,378
medical field because they have

11791
06:15:44,378 --> 06:15:45,846
a huge medical degree program,

11792
06:15:45,846 --> 06:15:47,548
they can come over and they can

11793
06:15:47,548 --> 06:15:49,449
mentor. So what we see is

11794
06:15:49,449 --> 06:15:51,318
something that's uniquely

11795
06:15:51,318 --> 06:15:53,520
different in the k-12 space,

11796
06:15:53,520 --> 06:15:54,788
where there's lots of energy

11797
06:15:54,788 --> 06:15:57,240
and buzz based on what we've

11798
06:15:57,240 --> 06:15:58,826
heard from businesses and from

11799
06:15:58,826 --> 06:16:00,728
universities, that this is the

11800
06:16:00,728 --> 06:16:02,429
next level to 22nd century

11801
06:16:02,429 --> 06:16:04,531
where we're not educating based

11802
06:16:04,531 --> 06:16:07,670
on seat time, we're educating

11803
06:16:07,670 --> 06:16:08,869
real world, practical world

11804
06:16:08,869 --> 06:16:11,869
education, real time in the

11805
06:16:13,207 --> 06:16:14,575
k-12 space. And there is huge

11806
06:16:14,575 --> 06:16:15,743
interest in this.

11807
06:16:15,743 --> 06:16:17,544
>> There's no doubt there's

11808
06:16:17,544 --> 06:16:19,279
huge interest. I just Doctor

11809
06:16:19,279 --> 06:16:20,881
Hepburn is there. Can we just

11810
06:16:20,881 --> 06:16:22,515
get a commitment from you that

11811
06:16:22,515 --> 06:16:23,617
they'll be the most accelerated

11812
06:16:23,617 --> 06:16:25,251
pace possible to take good

11813
06:16:25,251 --> 06:16:26,420
things. We learn at Nova and

11814
06:16:26,420 --> 06:16:28,288
spread it to the other 200.

11815
06:16:28,288 --> 06:16:30,490
>> And that's the whole point

11816
06:16:30,490 --> 06:16:31,791
of a lab school, right.

11817
06:16:31,791 --> 06:16:32,994
>> If we do it right. But I

11818
06:16:32,994 --> 06:16:34,795
tell you, you know, there's

11819
06:16:34,795 --> 06:16:35,829
there's, you know, I had a lot

11820
06:16:35,829 --> 06:16:36,897
of experience with the

11821
06:16:36,897 --> 06:16:38,932
Henderson School up in Boca,

11822
06:16:38,932 --> 06:16:40,000
and they do a lot of brilliant

11823
06:16:40,000 --> 06:16:40,835
stuff and it doesn't get out

11824
06:16:40,835 --> 06:16:41,680
very far.

11825
06:16:41,680 --> 06:16:42,969
>> Yeah.

11826
06:16:42,969 --> 06:16:44,905
>> So it's it's not easy to do

11827
06:16:44,905 --> 06:16:46,741
that. It takes a lot of energy

11828
06:16:46,741 --> 06:16:47,942
to take what you've learned and

11829
06:16:47,942 --> 06:16:49,777
spread it. And there has to be

11830
06:16:49,777 --> 06:16:50,100
human beings in the process to

11831
06:16:50,100 --> 06:16:51,450
do that.

11832
06:16:51,450 --> 06:16:52,747
>> Absolutely. So we.

11833
06:16:52,747 --> 06:16:53,470
>> Don't we have your

11834
06:16:53,470 --> 06:16:54,810
commitment.

11835
06:16:54,810 --> 06:16:55,749
>> Yeah. We don't disagree with

11836
06:16:55,749 --> 06:16:56,984
you on that. DR. Zeman.

11837
06:16:56,984 --> 06:16:58,753
>> I want that kid at Dillard

11838
06:16:58,753 --> 06:16:59,753
High School to have the

11839
06:16:59,753 --> 06:17:00,888
opportunity to expand their

11840
06:17:00,888 --> 06:17:01,789
brain and expand their career

11841
06:17:01,789 --> 06:17:02,757
opportunities, because they're

11842
06:17:02,757 --> 06:17:03,925
deeply interested and capable

11843
06:17:03,925 --> 06:17:05,590
in doing ai work, and just

11844
06:17:05,590 --> 06:17:06,928
because they can't figure out

11845
06:17:06,928 --> 06:17:08,729
how to get to the Nova campus

11846
06:17:08,729 --> 06:17:09,930
is ought not to be something

11847
06:17:09,930 --> 06:17:10,998
that slows them down by by more

11848
06:17:10,998 --> 06:17:12,660
than a few weeks.

11849
06:17:12,660 --> 06:17:12,900
>> I don't disagree.

11850
06:17:12,900 --> 06:17:14,900
>> With you.

11851
06:17:16,137 --> 06:17:18,272
>> Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff.

11852
06:17:18,272 --> 06:17:20,675
>> Thank you. I have to say,

11853
06:17:20,675 --> 06:17:23,750
I'm really frustrated listening

11854
06:17:24,445 --> 06:17:26,845
to this conversation. Waiting

11855
06:17:26,981 --> 06:17:30,551
hours to be able to speak. But

11856
06:17:30,551 --> 06:17:32,419
the presentation is extremely

11857
06:17:32,419 --> 06:17:34,522
confusing. I'm, you know, as

11858
06:17:34,522 --> 06:17:36,691
the board discussing this and

11859
06:17:36,691 --> 06:17:39,194
we're, you know, talking about

11860
06:17:39,194 --> 06:17:40,662
magic school. I don't even see

11861
06:17:40,662 --> 06:17:43,620
magic school in the

11862
06:17:46,330 --> 06:17:47,302
presentation. Is it there?

11863
06:17:47,302 --> 06:17:48,168
>> You want me to answer that?

11864
06:17:48,168 --> 06:17:50,168
So it's.

11865
06:17:50,338 --> 06:17:52,172
>> Not a question, MISS.

11866
06:17:52,172 --> 06:17:53,308
>> MISS Alhadeff, it's it's not

11867
06:17:53,308 --> 06:17:55,477
particularly about a program.

11868
06:17:55,477 --> 06:17:57,712
It's about ai in magic school

11869
06:17:57,712 --> 06:17:59,680
is ai. And so without calling

11870
06:17:59,680 --> 06:18:00,815
out specific programs like

11871
06:18:00,815 --> 06:18:02,417
Microsoft or Magic School,

11872
06:18:02,417 --> 06:18:04,753
because those things can change

11873
06:18:04,753 --> 06:18:06,540
from year to year. Our focus is

11874
06:18:06,540 --> 06:18:07,989
around ai implementation,

11875
06:18:07,989 --> 06:18:10,191
whether it's Magic School or

11876
06:18:10,191 --> 06:18:12,127
Microsoft Copilot. It is in the

11877
06:18:12,127 --> 06:18:13,762
impetus of the fact that we are

11878
06:18:13,762 --> 06:18:15,564
rolling out ai. And so whatever

11879
06:18:15,564 --> 06:18:17,265
that is, is what we want to

11880
06:18:17,265 --> 06:18:18,867
focus on, making sure we put

11881
06:18:18,867 --> 06:18:20,301
those guardrails around. And

11882
06:18:20,301 --> 06:18:21,837
that's why we didn't

11883
06:18:21,837 --> 06:18:24,837
intentionally call out a name

11884
06:18:25,273 --> 06:18:26,742
of a program.

11885
06:18:26,742 --> 06:18:29,742
>> Okay. But I think it's

11886
06:18:30,312 --> 06:18:31,913
important that we do focus on

11887
06:18:31,913 --> 06:18:34,150
all of the specific programs

11888
06:18:34,150 --> 06:18:35,950
that you plan to roll out. And

11889
06:18:35,950 --> 06:18:37,886
where do you plan to roll them

11890
06:18:37,886 --> 06:18:39,220
out? Just at Nova at all the

11891
06:18:39,220 --> 06:18:41,857
schools? I don't know, I'm

11892
06:18:41,857 --> 06:18:44,358
hearing kind of both. And then

11893
06:18:44,358 --> 06:18:47,329
I have a lot of concerns with

11894
06:18:47,329 --> 06:18:49,431
the security measures that are

11895
06:18:49,431 --> 06:18:53,631
put in place into some of these

11896
06:18:54,837 --> 06:18:56,271
ai software pieces, where they

11897
06:18:56,271 --> 06:18:59,271
could say something, and then

11898
06:18:59,875 --> 06:19:02,875
that information goes to a

11899
06:19:03,780 --> 06:19:06,314
teacher, which is which can be

11900
06:19:06,314 --> 06:19:08,884
in a silo of information where

11901
06:19:08,884 --> 06:19:11,386
if a student wants to threaten

11902
06:19:11,386 --> 06:19:14,386
a school or threaten themselves

11903
06:19:15,724 --> 06:19:17,126
or others. Now we're

11904
06:19:17,126 --> 06:19:19,126
hypothetically having that

11905
06:19:20,290 --> 06:19:23,290
information only go to one

11906
06:19:23,665 --> 06:19:26,135
person and not like to talk to

11907
06:19:26,135 --> 06:19:28,337
the principal. I mean, these

11908
06:19:28,337 --> 06:19:30,571
are big safety and security

11909
06:19:30,571 --> 06:19:33,571
measures that we cannot afford

11910
06:19:35,477 --> 06:19:37,613
to drop the ball on this. So I

11911
06:19:37,613 --> 06:19:39,949
have I have a lot of concerns.

11912
06:19:39,949 --> 06:19:42,500
I greatly appreciate the public

11913
06:19:42,500 --> 06:19:44,153
speakers that came today,

11914
06:19:44,153 --> 06:19:46,553
Matthew Board. I really

11915
06:19:46,989 --> 06:19:49,389
appreciated his comments. I

11916
06:19:49,892 --> 06:19:53,492
think there needs to be a

11917
06:19:53,562 --> 06:19:55,962
greater conversations with with

11918
06:19:55,998 --> 06:19:58,998
parents. I feel we're rushing

11919
06:19:59,268 --> 06:20:01,771
this. I think we need to have a

11920
06:20:01,771 --> 06:20:02,938
pause getting this up and

11921
06:20:02,938 --> 06:20:06,750
running before the start of the

11922
06:20:06,750 --> 06:20:07,175
school year. When parents are

11923
06:20:07,175 --> 06:20:08,945
everybody's, you know, on

11924
06:20:08,945 --> 06:20:11,480
vacation in the summer, it's

11925
06:20:11,480 --> 06:20:13,649
this is rough. We we cannot

11926
06:20:13,649 --> 06:20:16,649
rush things because then there

11927
06:20:16,885 --> 06:20:19,789
then becomes issues. I mean, I,

11928
06:20:19,789 --> 06:20:22,900
I'm all for ai, I think ai is

11929
06:20:22,900 --> 06:20:24,827
amazing. Ai is not the future.

11930
06:20:24,827 --> 06:20:27,363
It is the now. And we do need

11931
06:20:27,363 --> 06:20:30,533
to figure out the how we're

11932
06:20:30,533 --> 06:20:32,769
going to balance giving our

11933
06:20:32,769 --> 06:20:35,671
students access to ai and

11934
06:20:35,671 --> 06:20:38,671
integrating it into our into

11935
06:20:39,208 --> 06:20:42,208
their education. I am concerned

11936
06:20:43,546 --> 06:20:46,490
that we are moving away from

11937
06:20:46,490 --> 06:20:48,184
the ability for our students to

11938
06:20:48,184 --> 06:20:50,184
be independent thinkers.

11939
06:20:50,353 --> 06:20:53,289
Without the ai. I am concerned

11940
06:20:53,289 --> 06:20:56,289
about cheating going on with

11941
06:20:56,826 --> 06:21:00,429
using the ai. I do agree with

11942
06:21:00,429 --> 06:21:03,320
the project based learning, but

11943
06:21:03,320 --> 06:21:05,502
there also needs to be oral

11944
06:21:05,502 --> 06:21:07,502
presentations, debates,

11945
06:21:08,370 --> 06:21:10,370
discussions, handwritten

11946
06:21:10,874 --> 06:21:13,776
assessments. I think this is

11947
06:21:13,776 --> 06:21:17,460
the way our kids can show what

11948
06:21:17,460 --> 06:21:20,249
they know, and not just rely on

11949
06:21:20,249 --> 06:21:23,849
the ai to spit out the

11950
06:21:28,924 --> 06:21:31,600
information. I, again, I, I'm

11951
06:21:31,600 --> 06:21:32,962
frustrated, but and I, and I

11952
06:21:32,962 --> 06:21:34,664
just think there needs to be a

11953
06:21:34,664 --> 06:21:37,500
pause. I, I just feel that we

11954
06:21:37,500 --> 06:21:38,601
are, we are rushing this to get

11955
06:21:38,601 --> 06:21:41,136
this because we're going to be

11956
06:21:41,136 --> 06:21:43,306
starting the school year. But I

11957
06:21:43,306 --> 06:21:45,475
think there's so many questions

11958
06:21:45,475 --> 06:21:48,311
whether parents have. I mean,

11959
06:21:48,311 --> 06:21:51,581
us as a school board, we have a

11960
06:21:51,581 --> 06:21:52,983
gazillion questions and it's.

11961
06:21:52,983 --> 06:21:55,185
And teachers, I'm sure, and

11962
06:21:55,185 --> 06:21:57,487
principals have questions. So

11963
06:21:57,487 --> 06:22:01,870
my thought would be that that

11964
06:22:01,291 --> 06:22:04,160
we pause and maybe we look to

11965
06:22:04,160 --> 06:22:05,996
roll this out in JANUARY of

11966
06:22:05,996 --> 06:22:07,996
2027, when there's more

11967
06:22:08,498 --> 06:22:10,898
fruitful conversations that can

11968
06:22:11,734 --> 06:22:13,870
can happen throughout the

11969
06:22:13,870 --> 06:22:16,870
community and the district. And,

11970
06:22:17,507 --> 06:22:19,609
and I know it's, it's ai is, is

11971
06:22:19,609 --> 06:22:23,247
here to stay. And, and we have

11972
06:22:23,247 --> 06:22:26,150
to evolve. But I think that we

11973
06:22:26,150 --> 06:22:29,150
also owe it the responsibility

11974
06:22:29,719 --> 06:22:31,155
to owe it to our students to be

11975
06:22:31,155 --> 06:22:33,323
responsible and to make sure

11976
06:22:33,323 --> 06:22:36,323
that there is security measures

11977
06:22:36,927 --> 06:22:39,429
put in place so that it is done

11978
06:22:39,429 --> 06:22:41,429
correctly. Thank you.

11979
06:22:43,734 --> 06:22:45,200
>> Thank you, MR. Cervera.

11980
06:22:45,200 --> 06:22:46,936
>> First and foremost, I want

11981
06:22:46,936 --> 06:22:48,472
to thank all the speakers who

11982
06:22:48,472 --> 06:22:51,675
came in. I know we've been at

11983
06:22:51,675 --> 06:22:53,477
this for a couple hours now. I

11984
06:22:53,477 --> 06:22:55,646
also want to thank the winners

11985
06:22:55,646 --> 06:22:56,714
for their generous donation to

11986
06:22:56,714 --> 06:22:59,114
the district, and they're

11987
06:22:59,583 --> 06:23:01,117
willing to their willingness to

11988
06:23:01,117 --> 06:23:03,921
invest in our in our kids. We

11989
06:23:03,921 --> 06:23:06,921
do appreciate that very much.

11990
06:23:09,292 --> 06:23:11,629
So I will acknowledge that when

11991
06:23:11,629 --> 06:23:14,290
these ai conversations started,

11992
06:23:15,990 --> 06:23:17,499
I was initially excited.

11993
06:23:17,968 --> 06:23:21,205
However, I like most, now have

11994
06:23:21,205 --> 06:23:22,673
some some real concerns about

11995
06:23:22,673 --> 06:23:25,843
how this is going to be

11996
06:23:25,843 --> 06:23:28,790
affecting our students and our

11997
06:23:28,790 --> 06:23:30,214
teachers as a whole. I will

11998
06:23:30,214 --> 06:23:32,383
certainly acknowledge that ai

11999
06:23:32,383 --> 06:23:34,217
is is here to stay. We're not

12000
06:23:34,217 --> 06:23:35,953
going to stop this from

12001
06:23:35,953 --> 06:23:38,489
continuing to develop and grow

12002
06:23:38,489 --> 06:23:42,890
as a platform, and we certainly

12003
06:23:42,226 --> 06:23:44,940
cannot ignore it. However, this

12004
06:23:44,940 --> 06:23:45,629
does not mean that we have to

12005
06:23:45,629 --> 06:23:47,980
blindly accept it without

12006
06:23:47,980 --> 06:23:49,633
ensuring that there are proper

12007
06:23:49,633 --> 06:23:51,402
safeguards and guardrails in

12008
06:23:51,402 --> 06:23:53,802
place, especially when dealing

12009
06:23:55,673 --> 06:23:57,675
with our students. I want to be

12010
06:23:57,675 --> 06:23:58,843
clear on this. I am not in any

12011
06:23:58,843 --> 06:24:00,845
way, shape or form calling for

12012
06:24:00,845 --> 06:24:03,245
the elimination of technology,

12013
06:24:04,480 --> 06:24:06,448
but this technology really

12014
06:24:07,618 --> 06:24:10,188
should be used when it is clear

12015
06:24:10,188 --> 06:24:12,323
that it is improving

12016
06:24:12,323 --> 06:24:13,457
instruction to our students and

12017
06:24:13,457 --> 06:24:15,559
helping them with their

12018
06:24:15,559 --> 06:24:17,729
coursework, and helping them

12019
06:24:17,729 --> 06:24:20,129
with great improvement and

12020
06:24:20,231 --> 06:24:22,767
actual physical learning. I do

12021
06:24:22,767 --> 06:24:24,902
have great concerns about

12022
06:24:24,902 --> 06:24:27,902
diving into this ai technology

12023
06:24:28,572 --> 06:24:30,410
without seeing full studies and

12024
06:24:30,410 --> 06:24:33,210
the data on the benefits and

12025
06:24:33,210 --> 06:24:35,679
the risks of a full integration

12026
06:24:35,679 --> 06:24:38,679
into this technology, into our

12027
06:24:39,316 --> 06:24:42,554
curriculum. At Bcps. It is no

12028
06:24:42,554 --> 06:24:45,890
secret that I am in favor of

12029
06:24:45,890 --> 06:24:47,225
grade level screen time limits.

12030
06:24:47,225 --> 06:24:49,828
I've been saying this for for

12031
06:24:49,828 --> 06:24:51,895
quite some time now. I think

12032
06:24:51,895 --> 06:24:54,980
kids spend way too much time in

12033
06:24:54,980 --> 06:24:55,867
front of screens. I have three

12034
06:24:55,867 --> 06:24:56,968
children at home. I see this

12035
06:24:56,968 --> 06:24:59,968
firsthand. I know how addictive

12036
06:25:01,339 --> 06:25:02,741
these things can be. And if we

12037
06:25:02,741 --> 06:25:05,577
fail to acknowledge the dangers

12038
06:25:05,577 --> 06:25:08,847
of too much screen time, we are

12039
06:25:08,847 --> 06:25:12,447
really not doing our best with

12040
06:25:14,190 --> 06:25:14,986
managing our students. We spend

12041
06:25:14,986 --> 06:25:16,540
$100 million plus on these

12042
06:25:16,540 --> 06:25:17,222
software contracts. This is a

12043
06:25:17,222 --> 06:25:19,240
whole separate issue, but I'm

12044
06:25:19,240 --> 06:25:20,191
going to touch on it very

12045
06:25:20,191 --> 06:25:21,927
briefly, most of which I, for

12046
06:25:21,927 --> 06:25:23,328
the record, do vote against.

12047
06:25:23,328 --> 06:25:25,764
But I certainly acknowledge the

12048
06:25:25,764 --> 06:25:28,267
fact how much money we spent on

12049
06:25:28,267 --> 06:25:29,501
these software contracts. And

12050
06:25:29,501 --> 06:25:31,135
perhaps if we loosened up on

12051
06:25:31,135 --> 06:25:32,236
some of the screen time, the

12052
06:25:32,236 --> 06:25:34,206
need and necessity for these

12053
06:25:34,206 --> 06:25:36,642
hundreds of millions of dollars

12054
06:25:36,642 --> 06:25:38,776
in screen time contracts would

12055
06:25:38,776 --> 06:25:40,450
perhaps be reduced

12056
06:25:40,450 --> 06:25:41,346
substantially and could help us

12057
06:25:41,346 --> 06:25:43,480
get out of the deficit that

12058
06:25:43,480 --> 06:25:44,883
we're currently in. I really,

12059
06:25:44,883 --> 06:25:46,952
truly believe that we are in

12060
06:25:46,952 --> 06:25:49,488
greater need of more pen and

12061
06:25:49,488 --> 06:25:53,880
paper work, as opposed to doing

12062
06:25:53,158 --> 06:25:54,659
everything on a computer. Now,

12063
06:25:54,659 --> 06:25:55,994
it seems like to me, after

12064
06:25:55,994 --> 06:25:57,796
listening to this presentation,

12065
06:25:57,796 --> 06:26:00,698
that we're really betting the

12066
06:26:00,698 --> 06:26:03,201
farm on this type of technology,

12067
06:26:03,201 --> 06:26:05,504
and I'm not really comfortable

12068
06:26:05,504 --> 06:26:07,172
in doing this without ensuring

12069
06:26:07,172 --> 06:26:09,172
certain safeguards and

12070
06:26:09,675 --> 06:26:11,844
guardrails are in place for our

12071
06:26:11,844 --> 06:26:13,979
students and for our teachers.

12072
06:26:13,979 --> 06:26:16,915
There is real danger in relying

12073
06:26:16,915 --> 06:26:18,717
on this type of technology. The

12074
06:26:18,717 --> 06:26:21,717
obvious one is the cheating

12075
06:26:21,920 --> 06:26:24,890
aspect of this. However, I have

12076
06:26:24,890 --> 06:26:25,557
been doing my research on this

12077
06:26:25,557 --> 06:26:28,493
the old fashioned way. I did

12078
06:26:28,493 --> 06:26:29,795
not use chat, gps or any of the

12079
06:26:29,795 --> 06:26:31,630
the grok things or anything

12080
06:26:31,630 --> 06:26:33,898
like that. I. I did the

12081
06:26:33,898 --> 06:26:35,868
research the old fashioned way

12082
06:26:35,868 --> 06:26:38,937
and I've learned a lot about

12083
06:26:38,937 --> 06:26:40,906
this cognitive offloading. And

12084
06:26:40,906 --> 06:26:42,408
for those of you who don't know

12085
06:26:42,408 --> 06:26:44,808
what cognitive offloading is,

12086
06:26:45,711 --> 06:26:47,179
it's this notion that basically

12087
06:26:47,179 --> 06:26:49,648
your brain will forget how to

12088
06:26:49,648 --> 06:26:50,715
do a task if you do not

12089
06:26:50,715 --> 06:26:52,784
continually remind it, how to

12090
06:26:52,784 --> 06:26:54,687
do it, or in some cases, when

12091
06:26:54,687 --> 06:26:56,122
you never learned the skill,

12092
06:26:56,122 --> 06:26:57,189
your brain will not absorb it

12093
06:26:57,189 --> 06:27:00,189
because you are relying too

12094
06:27:00,793 --> 06:27:02,628
much on technology. There was a

12095
06:27:02,628 --> 06:27:04,397
really good example on a on on

12096
06:27:04,397 --> 06:27:06,933
a Zoom presentation that I

12097
06:27:06,933 --> 06:27:09,201
picked up recently about this

12098
06:27:09,201 --> 06:27:10,469
cognitive offloading. And for

12099
06:27:10,469 --> 06:27:11,737
those of you in the room who

12100
06:27:11,737 --> 06:27:13,505
can remember a time before we

12101
06:27:13,505 --> 06:27:15,908
had cell phones and we ran

12102
06:27:15,908 --> 06:27:17,409
around with pagers, you

12103
06:27:17,409 --> 06:27:19,212
remembered everybody's phone

12104
06:27:19,212 --> 06:27:21,347
number, your girlfriend, your

12105
06:27:21,347 --> 06:27:22,481
friends, your mom, your abuela,

12106
06:27:22,481 --> 06:27:24,881
everybody's phone number. You

12107
06:27:24,917 --> 06:27:26,452
had committed to memory. Fast

12108
06:27:26,452 --> 06:27:29,622
forward to the invention of the

12109
06:27:29,622 --> 06:27:30,923
cell phones. If you gave me

12110
06:27:30,923 --> 06:27:32,725
$100 to tell you what my wife's

12111
06:27:32,725 --> 06:27:33,859
cell phone number is right now,

12112
06:27:33,859 --> 06:27:35,761
I probably couldn't do it. And

12113
06:27:35,761 --> 06:27:37,597
the reason for that is because

12114
06:27:37,597 --> 06:27:40,733
we rely on our cell phones to

12115
06:27:40,733 --> 06:27:42,602
store information. So I have

12116
06:27:42,602 --> 06:27:44,602
effectively cognitively

12117
06:27:44,670 --> 06:27:46,906
offloaded the portion of my

12118
06:27:46,906 --> 06:27:48,675
brain that memorizes cell phone

12119
06:27:48,675 --> 06:27:50,809
numbers and telephone numbers

12120
06:27:50,809 --> 06:27:52,611
into my Apple iPhones that I

12121
06:27:52,611 --> 06:27:53,813
carry around with me. So

12122
06:27:53,813 --> 06:27:55,481
certainly this is a real thing.

12123
06:27:55,481 --> 06:27:58,852
I've seen some studies on this

12124
06:27:58,852 --> 06:28:00,552
and it is very troublesome for

12125
06:28:00,552 --> 06:28:02,722
me to think that if we are

12126
06:28:02,722 --> 06:28:05,225
getting these kids to rely so

12127
06:28:05,225 --> 06:28:07,427
heavily on the ai and on these

12128
06:28:07,427 --> 06:28:08,827
chat bots throughout the course

12129
06:28:08,827 --> 06:28:10,630
of their day in their

12130
06:28:10,630 --> 06:28:13,499
curriculum, they are not going

12131
06:28:13,499 --> 06:28:14,968
to be able to learn the skill

12132
06:28:14,968 --> 06:28:16,403
sets, and they're not going to

12133
06:28:16,403 --> 06:28:18,671
have them committed to memory

12134
06:28:18,671 --> 06:28:21,400
on how to, I don't know, write

12135
06:28:21,400 --> 06:28:22,575
a proper sentence or research

12136
06:28:22,575 --> 06:28:24,310
and cite to proper references

12137
06:28:24,310 --> 06:28:25,945
when writing a research paper,

12138
06:28:25,945 --> 06:28:28,281
because all of it can be done

12139
06:28:28,281 --> 06:28:30,449
for them by simply writing

12140
06:28:30,449 --> 06:28:33,860
something into a text bot or a

12141
06:28:33,860 --> 06:28:34,754
chat bot as they are called. We

12142
06:28:34,754 --> 06:28:36,523
are literally interfering with

12143
06:28:36,523 --> 06:28:38,923
brain development with our

12144
06:28:39,260 --> 06:28:40,927
young ones. If we are allowing

12145
06:28:40,927 --> 06:28:42,294
unfettered access to these

12146
06:28:42,294 --> 06:28:45,894
things and are relying on them

12147
06:28:45,966 --> 06:28:48,101
to rely thiseavily on n e

12148
06:28:48,101 --> 06:28:51,370
chnolology Nowow I am not

12149
06:28:51,370 --> 06:28:53,600
cacaining on a total ban for tech,

12150
06:28:53,600 --> 06:28:54,274
and I will be the first one to

12151
06:28:54,274 --> 06:28:57,274
admit that we cannot totally

12152
06:28:57,610 --> 06:28:59,546
ignore the ai. And I appreciate

12153
06:28:59,546 --> 06:29:00,714
the fact that it is very far

12154
06:29:00,714 --> 06:29:02,882
from perfect. And a great

12155
06:29:02,882 --> 06:29:06,482
example is this morning I went

12156
06:29:07,220 --> 06:29:09,356
on to the the Twitter version,

12157
06:29:09,356 --> 06:29:10,790
and I asked them to tell me

12158
06:29:10,790 --> 06:29:12,959
what is going to happen in the

12159
06:29:12,959 --> 06:29:14,328
nba finals. And one of the

12160
06:29:14,328 --> 06:29:16,229
responses I got was that they

12161
06:29:16,229 --> 06:29:17,430
are going to be playing in San

12162
06:29:17,430 --> 06:29:18,765
Antonio or the San Antonio

12163
06:29:18,765 --> 06:29:20,734
Spurs in New York. Knicks are

12164
06:29:20,734 --> 06:29:21,868
going to be playing in a game

12165
06:29:21,868 --> 06:29:23,403
six. Now, for those of you who

12166
06:29:23,403 --> 06:29:24,838
follow basketball, you know

12167
06:29:24,838 --> 06:29:27,400
that the Knicks, for the first

12168
06:29:27,400 --> 06:29:29,509
time in like 200 years, won the

12169
06:29:29,509 --> 06:29:31,909
championship on Saturday night

12170
06:29:32,446 --> 06:29:33,847
53. But who's counting? But the

12171
06:29:33,847 --> 06:29:34,981
reality is the fact that I was

12172
06:29:34,981 --> 06:29:36,883
given this information from one

12173
06:29:36,883 --> 06:29:38,318
of these chat bots when I was

12174
06:29:38,318 --> 06:29:40,688
doing some some simple research

12175
06:29:40,688 --> 06:29:42,489
to prepare for my remarks today,

12176
06:29:42,489 --> 06:29:43,890
I think is a little scary

12177
06:29:43,890 --> 06:29:45,159
because even my eight year old

12178
06:29:45,159 --> 06:29:46,894
daughter knows that the Knicks

12179
06:29:46,894 --> 06:29:48,929
won on Saturday and was well

12180
06:29:48,929 --> 06:29:51,564
aware that it was in game five.

12181
06:29:51,564 --> 06:29:53,734
That being said, we really need

12182
06:29:53,734 --> 06:29:55,535
to learn more about how to use

12183
06:29:55,535 --> 06:29:57,237
these programs responsibly for

12184
06:29:57,237 --> 06:29:58,339
our students. First and

12185
06:29:58,339 --> 06:30:00,739
foremost, they cannot and

12186
06:30:01,108 --> 06:30:02,643
should not replace or be seen

12187
06:30:02,643 --> 06:30:05,112
as a substitute for our great

12188
06:30:05,112 --> 06:30:06,213
teachers that are in our

12189
06:30:06,213 --> 06:30:08,449
hundreds of schools throughout

12190
06:30:08,449 --> 06:30:12,490
the county. I really need to

12191
06:30:12,520 --> 06:30:14,187
see some serious guardrails in

12192
06:30:14,187 --> 06:30:15,789
place with any type of formal

12193
06:30:15,789 --> 06:30:17,758
policy that this board is going

12194
06:30:17,758 --> 06:30:20,270
to approve. If you want my vote

12195
06:30:20,270 --> 06:30:22,829
on how we are going to do such

12196
06:30:22,829 --> 06:30:24,965
things as preventing overuse,

12197
06:30:24,965 --> 06:30:26,965
preventing this cognitive

12198
06:30:27,801 --> 06:30:29,236
offloading, preventing data,

12199
06:30:29,236 --> 06:30:31,500
excuse me, implementing data

12200
06:30:31,500 --> 06:30:32,873
protection methods to make sure

12201
06:30:32,873 --> 06:30:34,108
that sensitive student

12202
06:30:34,108 --> 06:30:36,410
information is not being housed

12203
06:30:36,410 --> 06:30:38,279
by big tech and sold off to

12204
06:30:38,279 --> 06:30:40,114
foreign countries for a profit.

12205
06:30:40,114 --> 06:30:41,716
I'm also very interested in

12206
06:30:41,716 --> 06:30:43,650
seeing on how we are going to

12207
06:30:43,650 --> 06:30:45,152
continue to balance this

12208
06:30:45,152 --> 06:30:47,287
increased screen time. If we're

12209
06:30:47,287 --> 06:30:48,723
giving kids access to

12210
06:30:48,723 --> 06:30:50,925
additional chat bots and things

12211
06:30:50,925 --> 06:30:54,128
like that, we need to make sure

12212
06:30:54,128 --> 06:30:56,931
that we are not giving them

12213
06:30:56,931 --> 06:30:58,980
more unnecessary and unfettered

12214
06:30:58,980 --> 06:30:59,867
screen time. I think it's too

12215
06:30:59,867 --> 06:31:02,690
much as it is, so adding this

12216
06:31:02,690 --> 06:31:03,437
in is a little scary for me.

12217
06:31:03,437 --> 06:31:05,239
And perhaps more importantly,

12218
06:31:05,239 --> 06:31:07,740
what are we doing to make sure

12219
06:31:07,740 --> 06:31:08,943
that these platforms are

12220
06:31:08,943 --> 06:31:09,677
actually verifying the

12221
06:31:09,677 --> 06:31:11,677
information that they're

12222
06:31:12,547 --> 06:31:14,150
spitting out to our kids? Again,

12223
06:31:14,150 --> 06:31:17,615
using my my Nick's example from

12224
06:31:17,685 --> 06:31:19,153
this morning, I am smart enough

12225
06:31:19,153 --> 06:31:21,890
to know that the information

12226
06:31:21,890 --> 06:31:22,557
that I got was was incorrect,

12227
06:31:22,557 --> 06:31:24,292
but perhaps se of our younger

12228
06:31:24,292 --> 06:31:25,426
kids are going to rely heavily,

12229
06:31:25,426 --> 06:31:27,228
and they're not going to

12230
06:31:27,228 --> 06:31:28,729
properly vet and research and

12231
06:31:28,729 --> 06:31:31,129
verify the information that's

12232
06:31:32,200 --> 06:31:35,135
coming out in the chat bot.

12233
06:31:35,135 --> 06:31:36,971
That being said, I do want a

12234
06:31:36,971 --> 06:31:38,639
couple things specifically

12235
06:31:38,639 --> 06:31:39,808
answered. And if I MAY, chair

12236
06:31:39,808 --> 06:31:43,408
MISS Sopher, will you come back

12237
06:31:50,151 --> 06:31:52,119
to the microphone, please?

12238
06:31:52,119 --> 06:31:54,122
Ma'am? You had, I believe, 3 or

12239
06:31:54,122 --> 06:31:55,523
4 questions, and I was I was

12240
06:31:55,523 --> 06:31:58,893
trying to write down. But you

12241
06:31:58,893 --> 06:32:00,428
were speaking not quickly

12242
06:32:00,428 --> 06:32:01,596
because I think your pace was

12243
06:32:01,596 --> 06:32:03,598
fine, but perhaps I wasn't

12244
06:32:03,598 --> 06:32:05,266
listening fast enough. And they

12245
06:32:05,266 --> 06:32:07,101
were very good questions. And I

12246
06:32:07,101 --> 06:32:08,870
want answers to them. Will you

12247
06:32:08,870 --> 06:32:10,500
take it from the top and direct

12248
06:32:10,500 --> 06:32:11,473
the questions to the

12249
06:32:11,473 --> 06:32:12,774
superintendent and MR.

12250
06:32:12,774 --> 06:32:14,309
Superintendent, I would request

12251
06:32:14,309 --> 06:32:15,843
that this speaker be given an

12252
06:32:15,843 --> 06:32:18,843
answer to the questions that

12253
06:32:19,714 --> 06:32:20,715
she asked.

12254
06:32:20,715 --> 06:32:22,715
>> Thank you.

12255
06:32:24,352 --> 06:32:26,154
>> Thank you, sir. Speaking

12256
06:32:26,154 --> 06:32:26,955
slide by slide is what you

12257
06:32:26,955 --> 06:32:27,956
requested.

12258
06:32:27,956 --> 06:32:28,323
>> I think you started with

12259
06:32:28,323 --> 06:32:30,158
seven.

12260
06:32:30,158 --> 06:32:32,227
>> Slide seven. What is the

12261
06:32:32,227 --> 06:32:34,162
school board's definition of

12262
06:32:34,162 --> 06:32:36,162
ethical implementation? Where

12263
06:32:36,665 --> 06:32:38,367
can parents find it? What are

12264
06:32:38,367 --> 06:32:39,834
the current and expected

12265
06:32:39,834 --> 06:32:42,400
safeguards? Where are they

12266
06:32:42,400 --> 06:32:44,172
published for view and is it

12267
06:32:44,172 --> 06:32:45,274
viewable in all major spoken

12268
06:32:45,274 --> 06:32:47,274
languages?

12269
06:32:48,143 --> 06:32:50,645
>> So thanks for the the

12270
06:32:50,645 --> 06:32:53,115
question, I guess through MR.

12271
06:32:53,115 --> 06:32:56,500
Cervera. And I just want to.

12272
06:32:56,500 --> 06:32:57,452
Yeah, but this workshop is the

12273
06:32:57,452 --> 06:32:59,588
epitome of all of those

12274
06:32:59,588 --> 06:33:01,422
questions. This workshop is to

12275
06:33:01,422 --> 06:33:02,791
is to it's not the starting

12276
06:33:02,791 --> 06:33:04,726
point, but it's the point where

12277
06:33:04,726 --> 06:33:06,795
we're bringing all of this

12278
06:33:06,795 --> 06:33:08,530
content to the board to discuss

12279
06:33:08,530 --> 06:33:10,980
next steps. All of those things

12280
06:33:10,980 --> 06:33:13,980
are actually next steps that

12281
06:33:14,200 --> 06:33:15,104
the ai task force, the liaisons

12282
06:33:15,104 --> 06:33:16,872
and the leadership team have

12283
06:33:16,872 --> 06:33:18,707
been working on. So there won't

12284
06:33:18,707 --> 06:33:20,142
be a hard answers to those

12285
06:33:20,142 --> 06:33:22,344
questions right now. Those are

12286
06:33:22,344 --> 06:33:23,645
actually next steps based on

12287
06:33:23,645 --> 06:33:24,847
board feedback and what's to

12288
06:33:24,847 --> 06:33:27,349
come. I heard her questions

12289
06:33:27,349 --> 06:33:30,185
when she asked them earlier and

12290
06:33:30,185 --> 06:33:31,654
I said, okay, I think everybody

12291
06:33:31,654 --> 06:33:33,210
kind of understands based on

12292
06:33:33,210 --> 06:33:34,323
some of the questions, based on

12293
06:33:34,323 --> 06:33:36,250
some of the feedback, based on

12294
06:33:36,250 --> 06:33:37,293
some of the concerns, based on

12295
06:33:37,293 --> 06:33:39,610
some of the accolades that I've

12296
06:33:39,610 --> 06:33:40,296
heard, it's the epitome of what

12297
06:33:40,296 --> 06:33:42,131
this workshop is for, and it's

12298
06:33:42,131 --> 06:33:43,599
to garner all of that feedback,

12299
06:33:43,599 --> 06:33:44,667
not just from the board, but

12300
06:33:44,667 --> 06:33:47,670
from constituents that are

12301
06:33:47,690 --> 06:33:49,772
coming up and speaking during

12302
06:33:49,772 --> 06:33:51,807
public speaking time. All of

12303
06:33:51,807 --> 06:33:53,541
that is actually next steps.

12304
06:33:53,541 --> 06:33:55,777
This is what a workshop is for.

12305
06:33:55,777 --> 06:33:56,946
So we won't have answers to

12306
06:33:56,946 --> 06:33:58,714
many of the things that you

12307
06:33:58,714 --> 06:34:01,149
asked, because this is what the

12308
06:34:01,149 --> 06:34:02,985
workshop is for. To listen, to

12309
06:34:02,985 --> 06:34:04,119
hear the questions, to hear

12310
06:34:04,119 --> 06:34:06,155
feedback, to hear concerns, to

12311
06:34:06,155 --> 06:34:07,356
hear accolades. So we can

12312
06:34:07,356 --> 06:34:09,191
tighten up this process so we

12313
06:34:09,191 --> 06:34:10,458
can tighten up what's going to

12314
06:34:10,458 --> 06:34:11,460
be presented to the

12315
06:34:11,460 --> 06:34:12,595
>> Public via website, via

12316
06:34:12,595 --> 06:34:14,297
other vehicles, just to make

12317
06:34:14,297 --> 06:34:15,832
sure everybody fully

12318
06:34:15,832 --> 06:34:16,832
understands how. Broward County

12319
06:34:16,832 --> 06:34:18,968
Public Schools is going to

12320
06:34:18,968 --> 06:34:21,204
implement ai instructionally at

12321
06:34:21,204 --> 06:34:23,338
schools and also operationally.

12322
06:34:23,338 --> 06:34:24,707
So just to give you a broad

12323
06:34:24,707 --> 06:34:26,509
answer, because I heard the

12324
06:34:26,509 --> 06:34:29,111
questions before and, you know,

12325
06:34:29,111 --> 06:34:31,981
just was ringing in my head.

12326
06:34:31,981 --> 06:34:33,449
>> MR. Superintendent, if I MAY,

12327
06:34:33,449 --> 06:34:35,184
these were good questions.

12328
06:34:35,184 --> 06:34:37,687
Correct? The speaker asked. I

12329
06:34:37,687 --> 06:34:39,122
want answers to these questions.

12330
06:34:39,122 --> 06:34:40,589
>> And that's the answer.

12331
06:34:40,589 --> 06:34:43,458
>> Well, is, is this something

12332
06:34:43,458 --> 06:34:45,695
that we could add to the mix in

12333
06:34:45,695 --> 06:34:48,960
Doctor Cohn's work as he

12334
06:34:48,960 --> 06:34:49,832
hopefully pushes us towards a

12335
06:34:49,832 --> 06:34:52,101
policy as a follow up, what is

12336
06:34:52,101 --> 06:34:53,436
the best method? Because when I

12337
06:34:53,436 --> 06:34:54,637
have speakers, when I have

12338
06:34:54,637 --> 06:34:56,773
parents, when I have teachers

12339
06:34:56,773 --> 06:34:58,908
come here and they have

12340
06:34:58,908 --> 06:35:01,440
questions like we've heard from

12341
06:35:01,440 --> 06:35:02,978
MRS. Sopher here and my

12342
06:35:02,978 --> 06:35:04,547
antennas go up, I want to know

12343
06:35:04,547 --> 06:35:05,615
the answer to it. My

12344
06:35:05,615 --> 06:35:06,782
constituents want to know the

12345
06:35:06,782 --> 06:35:07,817
answer to it. I think the

12346
06:35:07,817 --> 06:35:09,586
general public, a great

12347
06:35:09,586 --> 06:35:10,586
majority of them also wanna

12348
06:35:10,586 --> 06:35:11,688
know the answer. So I

12349
06:35:11,688 --> 06:35:12,922
appreciate what you're saying.

12350
06:35:12,922 --> 06:35:14,656
And this is what the workshops

12351
06:35:14,656 --> 06:35:16,626
for. And that's great, but I

12352
06:35:16,626 --> 06:35:16,926
don't want this to get lost in

12353
06:35:16,926 --> 06:35:18,628
the shuffle.

12354
06:35:18,628 --> 06:35:19,896
>> No. And it's and it's not

12355
06:35:19,896 --> 06:35:21,664
lost. And just to ensure it's

12356
06:35:21,664 --> 06:35:22,866
not lost, MISS Sanford, you can

12357
06:35:22,866 --> 06:35:24,990
easily email myself or Doctor

12358
06:35:24,990 --> 06:35:25,601
Cohn those questions. But I

12359
06:35:25,601 --> 06:35:27,370
heard the questions, many of

12360
06:35:27,370 --> 06:35:28,838
the questions aligned to what

12361
06:35:28,838 --> 06:35:29,872
the ai task force and the

12362
06:35:29,872 --> 06:35:31,908
leadership team have been

12363
06:35:31,908 --> 06:35:33,877
working towards in preparation

12364
06:35:33,877 --> 06:35:34,844
for this workshop and in

12365
06:35:34,844 --> 06:35:37,790
preparation for what we're

12366
06:35:37,790 --> 06:35:38,581
going to roll out to entire

12367
06:35:38,581 --> 06:35:39,649
staff at before the beginning

12368
06:35:39,649 --> 06:35:41,183
of the school year, before

12369
06:35:41,183 --> 06:35:42,885
students actually come back.

12370
06:35:42,885 --> 06:35:44,870
But just to make sure nothing's

12371
06:35:44,870 --> 06:35:45,589
lost in translation, you can

12372
06:35:45,589 --> 06:35:46,622
you can also email those

12373
06:35:46,622 --> 06:35:47,757
questions to us too.

12374
06:35:47,757 --> 06:35:49,693
>> And MISS Offer. If you'd be

12375
06:35:49,693 --> 06:35:50,327
so kind in taking up the

12376
06:35:50,327 --> 06:35:51,661
superintendent's recommendation,

12377
06:35:51,661 --> 06:35:53,897
make sure I'm cc'd on that

12378
06:35:53,897 --> 06:35:55,832
email as well. I'll put in my

12379
06:35:55,832 --> 06:35:57,134
own internal clocks to make

12380
06:35:57,134 --> 06:35:58,268
sure that we're getting you a

12381
06:35:58,268 --> 06:35:59,202
timely response, because they

12382
06:35:59,202 --> 06:36:00,203
were good questions, and I

12383
06:36:00,203 --> 06:36:02,203
certainly appreciate you

12384
06:36:02,639 --> 06:36:05,909
bringing them. Chair, if I MAY,

12385
06:36:05,909 --> 06:36:07,811
I've got a couple more I heard

12386
06:36:07,811 --> 06:36:10,547
and I, I apologize. I believe

12387
06:36:10,547 --> 06:36:12,382
it was MISS Odie. I mean, it

12388
06:36:12,382 --> 06:36:15,652
was a while ago, raised some

12389
06:36:15,652 --> 06:36:17,387
concern about ferpa and

12390
06:36:17,387 --> 06:36:20,387
potential violations of, of, of

12391
06:36:21,425 --> 06:36:22,825
ferpa. I believe she referenced

12392
06:36:22,825 --> 06:36:25,225
copilot and some compliance

12393
06:36:25,296 --> 06:36:26,829
issues. Is there any validity

12394
06:36:26,829 --> 06:36:28,232
to that statement? Is that

12395
06:36:28,232 --> 06:36:30,400
something that's on our radar?

12396
06:36:30,400 --> 06:36:31,835
Have we researched that?

12397
06:36:31,835 --> 06:36:33,470
Obviously, as I like to say, we

12398
06:36:33,470 --> 06:36:34,805
follow the law here in Broward

12399
06:36:34,805 --> 06:36:36,773
County. And if we're engaging

12400
06:36:36,773 --> 06:36:38,709
in some sort of ai technology

12401
06:36:38,709 --> 06:36:40,878
or ai program that is going to

12402
06:36:40,878 --> 06:36:42,212
run afoul of ferpa, I need to

12403
06:36:42,212 --> 06:36:44,810
know what we're doing to

12404
06:36:44,810 --> 06:36:46,810
potentially correct those

12405
06:36:46,617 --> 06:36:48,385
prospective violations.

12406
06:36:48,385 --> 06:36:49,486
>> From my understanding,

12407
06:36:49,486 --> 06:36:52,423
correct me if I'm wrong, Manny.

12408
06:36:52,423 --> 06:36:54,491
There's no violation of ferpa

12409
06:36:54,491 --> 06:36:56,694
with this tool. Specifically, I

12410
06:36:56,694 --> 06:36:58,996
think he's referring to copilot

12411
06:36:58,996 --> 06:37:00,297
13 and many of the things that

12412
06:37:00,297 --> 06:37:01,732
have been isolated based on

12413
06:37:01,732 --> 06:37:02,933
that small group of students

12414
06:37:02,933 --> 06:37:04,968
that are utilizing it. And also

12415
06:37:04,968 --> 06:37:07,370
MISS Leonardi with her feedback

12416
06:37:07,370 --> 06:37:08,172
to us one on one and in a group

12417
06:37:08,172 --> 06:37:09,607
that we're working with

12418
06:37:09,607 --> 06:37:12,209
Microsoft to try and address

12419
06:37:12,209 --> 06:37:15,450
that, hence why the copilot 13

12420
06:37:15,450 --> 06:37:17,148
is not a going to be considered

12421
06:37:17,148 --> 06:37:18,349
for district scaling to all of

12422
06:37:18,349 --> 06:37:20,784
our students because of some of

12423
06:37:20,784 --> 06:37:22,219
the issues that we've isolated,

12424
06:37:22,219 --> 06:37:24,421
while a small group of students

12425
06:37:24,421 --> 06:37:25,856
have used it, versus magic

12426
06:37:25,856 --> 06:37:26,924
school would be scaled out

12427
06:37:26,924 --> 06:37:28,250
throughout the whole entire

12428
06:37:28,250 --> 06:37:29,427
district because they actually

12429
06:37:29,427 --> 06:37:29,659
passed many of the tests that

12430
06:37:29,659 --> 06:37:31,595
we have.

12431
06:37:31,595 --> 06:37:33,397
>> So as we sit here today as

12432
06:37:33,397 --> 06:37:34,332
Magic School Bus, fully in

12433
06:37:34,332 --> 06:37:35,566
compliance with the regulations

12434
06:37:35,566 --> 06:37:37,566
of ferpa.

12435
06:37:37,701 --> 06:37:39,701
>> Yes, yes.

12436
06:37:44,541 --> 06:37:47,778
>> Okay. I also heard. One of

12437
06:37:47,778 --> 06:37:49,379
the speakers talk about either

12438
06:37:49,379 --> 06:37:51,779
pending or discussed federal

12439
06:37:52,549 --> 06:37:54,949
and state legislation regarding

12440
06:37:56,821 --> 06:38:00,458
the use of these chat bots by

12441
06:38:00,458 --> 06:38:03,260
individuals under the age of 18.

12442
06:38:03,260 --> 06:38:04,295
So maybe this is perhaps better

12443
06:38:04,295 --> 06:38:05,429
directed at MR. Sullivan,

12444
06:38:05,429 --> 06:38:08,366
although I think he MAY have

12445
06:38:08,366 --> 06:38:10,100
just exited the room. Is there

12446
06:38:10,100 --> 06:38:11,869
any validity to those claims?

12447
06:38:11,869 --> 06:38:15,173
Are there any other states in

12448
06:38:15,173 --> 06:38:16,307
the union that have laws that

12449
06:38:16,307 --> 06:38:18,242
prevent individuals from under

12450
06:38:18,242 --> 06:38:20,544
the age of 18 from using chat

12451
06:38:20,544 --> 06:38:22,747
bots? And the reason I'm

12452
06:38:22,747 --> 06:38:24,215
bringing this up is we are

12453
06:38:24,215 --> 06:38:26,170
putting a lot of a lot of

12454
06:38:26,170 --> 06:38:27,218
capital, a lot of time, a lot

12455
06:38:27,218 --> 06:38:28,286
of effort into these things.

12456
06:38:28,286 --> 06:38:30,188
And if something is coming down

12457
06:38:30,188 --> 06:38:31,723
the pike, whether it come from

12458
06:38:31,723 --> 06:38:34,225
D.C. Or Tallahassee, that is

12459
06:38:34,225 --> 06:38:37,225
going to prevent minors from

12460
06:38:37,461 --> 06:38:39,230
using chat bots, I don't know

12461
06:38:39,230 --> 06:38:40,698
that we need to be running with

12462
06:38:40,698 --> 06:38:42,233
great haste to be finalizing

12463
06:38:42,233 --> 06:38:43,969
something like this, only to

12464
06:38:43,969 --> 06:38:45,637
have it be deemed illegal,

12465
06:38:45,637 --> 06:38:48,370
potentially or against statute

12466
06:38:49,507 --> 06:38:51,109
later on down the road. So from

12467
06:38:51,109 --> 06:38:52,577
a legislative standpoint, is

12468
06:38:52,577 --> 06:38:54,778
anybody aware or has any

12469
06:38:54,778 --> 06:38:56,781
research been conducted on any

12470
06:38:56,781 --> 06:38:58,649
federal or state legislation

12471
06:38:58,649 --> 06:39:00,151
that could potentially bar

12472
06:39:00,151 --> 06:39:01,519
minors from using these chat

12473
06:39:01,519 --> 06:39:03,388
bots?

12474
06:39:03,388 --> 06:39:05,788
>> Not familiar with any

12475
06:39:05,890 --> 06:39:08,290
current legislation on chat

12476
06:39:09,160 --> 06:39:10,395
bots? I'm familiar with

12477
06:39:10,395 --> 06:39:12,970
discussions around social media,

12478
06:39:12,970 --> 06:39:13,364
but not chat bots.

12479
06:39:13,364 --> 06:39:15,299
>> MR. Sullivan, did you hear

12480
06:39:15,299 --> 06:39:16,000
the question?

12481
06:39:16,000 --> 06:39:17,369
>> Yeah.

12482
06:39:17,369 --> 06:39:18,436
>> Yeah, I believe I heard most

12483
06:39:18,436 --> 06:39:19,270
of it. And yes, the

12484
06:39:19,270 --> 06:39:20,371
superintendent's right.

12485
06:39:20,371 --> 06:39:22,139
>> Okay. So there's nothing

12486
06:39:22,139 --> 06:39:23,941
that we're aware of.

12487
06:39:23,941 --> 06:39:24,609
>> No, there is no ai bill

12488
06:39:24,609 --> 06:39:26,545
passed this session.

12489
06:39:26,545 --> 06:39:27,813
>> Up until now. I'm not I know

12490
06:39:27,813 --> 06:39:28,747
what bills passed this session.

12491
06:39:28,747 --> 06:39:30,480
I'm talking about something

12492
06:39:30,480 --> 06:39:30,849
that's being discussed or

12493
06:39:30,849 --> 06:39:32,684
something that might be coming

12494
06:39:32,684 --> 06:39:35,530
down the pike. Or are there

12495
06:39:35,530 --> 06:39:36,855
laws in other states that bar

12496
06:39:36,855 --> 06:39:37,255
the use of these chat bots by

12497
06:39:37,255 --> 06:39:38,523
minors?

12498
06:39:38,523 --> 06:39:40,526
>> I can only speak federally

12499
06:39:40,526 --> 06:39:44,726
in the state of Florida and no.

12500
06:39:45,931 --> 06:39:46,898
>> Okay. Doctor Cohn.

12501
06:39:46,898 --> 06:39:48,898
>> No.

12502
06:39:50,235 --> 06:39:52,437
>> Okay. MISS Reed, I saw your

12503
06:39:52,437 --> 06:39:53,710
hand. Did you want to address

12504
06:39:53,710 --> 06:39:55,710
the question?

12505
06:39:55,707 --> 06:39:57,420
>> Yes. Senate Bill 482. It was

12506
06:39:57,420 --> 06:39:59,210
to talk about the artificial

12507
06:39:59,210 --> 06:40:00,913
Bill of rights, that it was

12508
06:40:00,913 --> 06:40:02,214
sponsored by Senator Tom Leek.

12509
06:40:02,214 --> 06:40:03,348
But even though it passed in

12510
06:40:03,348 --> 06:40:05,250
the Florida Senate, it died.

12511
06:40:05,250 --> 06:40:07,860
>> In the died in the House.

12512
06:40:07,860 --> 06:40:08,219
>> So it did not pass.

12513
06:40:08,219 --> 06:40:10,122
>> Okay. So nobody, as we sit

12514
06:40:10,122 --> 06:40:11,457
here today, is aware of any

12515
06:40:11,457 --> 06:40:13,692
perspective or talked about

12516
06:40:13,692 --> 06:40:16,610
litigation, both federally or

12517
06:40:16,610 --> 06:40:19,610
in Tallahassee, regarding a bar

12518
06:40:20,799 --> 06:40:22,968
of these chat bots for minors.

12519
06:40:22,968 --> 06:40:27,168
Okay. I see a lot of head

12520
06:40:28,339 --> 06:40:30,141
shaking. MR. Superintendent,

12521
06:40:30,141 --> 06:40:32,141
specifically talking about

12522
06:40:33,112 --> 06:40:34,790
Magic School bus.

12523
06:40:34,790 --> 06:40:34,445
>> Magic school.

12524
06:40:34,445 --> 06:40:36,414
>> Sorry.

12525
06:40:36,414 --> 06:40:37,749
>> Magic school bus. I know

12526
06:40:37,749 --> 06:40:38,584
where you were talking about.

12527
06:40:38,584 --> 06:40:40,953
Everybody knows about magic

12528
06:40:40,953 --> 06:40:42,210
school bus.

12529
06:40:42,210 --> 06:40:43,923
>> Magic school bus. I, I

12530
06:40:43,923 --> 06:40:45,958
enjoyed that cartoon when I was

12531
06:40:45,958 --> 06:40:48,260
a when I was a child many years

12532
06:40:48,260 --> 06:40:51,260
ago. Apologies. It's late in

12533
06:40:52,465 --> 06:40:54,667
the day. Magic school. I was

12534
06:40:54,667 --> 06:40:56,501
provided with an article over

12535
06:40:56,501 --> 06:40:59,972
the weekend, staying on the. On

12536
06:40:59,972 --> 06:41:01,541
the chat bot front regarding a

12537
06:41:01,541 --> 06:41:04,541
bot that was being integrated

12538
06:41:04,709 --> 06:41:07,579
into Magic School called Raina

12539
06:41:07,579 --> 06:41:10,816
Arena, and it was rolled out

12540
06:41:10,816 --> 06:41:13,419
with the platform and up until

12541
06:41:13,419 --> 06:41:16,621
MARCH of this year was used in

12542
06:41:16,621 --> 06:41:17,723
all of their school based

12543
06:41:17,723 --> 06:41:20,193
platforms that they were using

12544
06:41:20,193 --> 06:41:21,427
around the, around the nation.

12545
06:41:21,427 --> 06:41:23,950
Well, it turns out that for

12546
06:41:23,950 --> 06:41:24,897
whatever reason, that chat bot

12547
06:41:24,897 --> 06:41:27,700
was deemed harmful to children

12548
06:41:27,700 --> 06:41:28,968
and they ended up pulling it, I

12549
06:41:28,968 --> 06:41:31,370
believe, in MARCH and replacing

12550
06:41:31,370 --> 06:41:32,805
it with somebody else or,

12551
06:41:32,805 --> 06:41:35,140
excuse me, some other type of

12552
06:41:35,140 --> 06:41:36,709
bot. I'm happy to disseminate

12553
06:41:36,709 --> 06:41:39,645
the article. I was just

12554
06:41:39,645 --> 06:41:42,645
wondering if anybody was aware

12555
06:41:42,949 --> 06:41:44,417
of this in any manner, and if

12556
06:41:44,417 --> 06:41:47,417
they could provide any details

12557
06:41:47,887 --> 06:41:50,560
on what the fix was. After this

12558
06:41:50,560 --> 06:41:51,190
rainy bot was pulled from Magic

12559
06:41:51,190 --> 06:41:52,992
School.

12560
06:41:52,992 --> 06:41:54,426
>> I'm not personally aware of

12561
06:41:54,426 --> 06:41:55,895
it, but what you describe it

12562
06:41:55,895 --> 06:41:57,462
sounded like Magic School did

12563
06:41:57,462 --> 06:41:59,650
the right thing after they

12564
06:41:59,650 --> 06:42:00,567
found something that was deemed

12565
06:42:00,567 --> 06:42:02,702
harmful harmful for students,

12566
06:42:02,702 --> 06:42:05,505
which I expect any company to

12567
06:42:05,505 --> 06:42:06,639
do if it's technology or not.

12568
06:42:06,639 --> 06:42:08,808
>> Well, I agree, I would

12569
06:42:08,808 --> 06:42:09,875
prefer that the screw up

12570
06:42:09,875 --> 06:42:11,778
doesn't happen in the first

12571
06:42:11,778 --> 06:42:12,946
place, but I, I just want to

12572
06:42:12,946 --> 06:42:15,381
know, is anybody because I read

12573
06:42:15,381 --> 06:42:17,317
a very quick tech article that

12574
06:42:17,317 --> 06:42:19,185
was forwarded to me by a parent.

12575
06:42:19,185 --> 06:42:22,522
Is anybody aware of this mishap

12576
06:42:22,522 --> 06:42:24,590
with the chatbot? Raina.

12577
06:42:24,590 --> 06:42:25,825
>> I'm not aware of any. We can

12578
06:42:25,825 --> 06:42:26,793
research it, but I'm not aware

12579
06:42:26,793 --> 06:42:28,194
of it.

12580
06:42:28,194 --> 06:42:29,896
>> Okay. When I yield my time,

12581
06:42:29,896 --> 06:42:31,498
Doctor Cohn, I will forward you

12582
06:42:31,498 --> 06:42:34,367
the article. I'd ask that you

12583
06:42:34,367 --> 06:42:38,400
take a look and give me your

12584
06:42:38,400 --> 06:42:40,473
$0.02. Sure. Lastly, if I MAY,

12585
06:42:40,473 --> 06:42:41,608
going back to the presentation,

12586
06:42:41,608 --> 06:42:45,808
let me make sure I have the

12587
06:42:47,614 --> 06:42:49,816
right page here. The Magic

12588
06:42:49,816 --> 06:42:52,216
School Testing Analysis on

12589
06:42:53,190 --> 06:42:56,190
slide 48, it appears that six

12590
06:42:56,323 --> 06:42:58,910
out of 19 interactions, which

12591
06:42:58,910 --> 06:43:00,260
were intended to be

12592
06:43:00,260 --> 06:43:02,260
inappropriate were missed

12593
06:43:03,230 --> 06:43:04,931
during our testing. If my math

12594
06:43:04,931 --> 06:43:06,866
is correct, which it often is

12595
06:43:06,866 --> 06:43:09,269
not, but if my math is correct,

12596
06:43:09,269 --> 06:43:10,670
that's 31% of the time

12597
06:43:10,670 --> 06:43:12,670
inappropriate content was

12598
06:43:13,707 --> 06:43:16,707
missed on Magic School during

12599
06:43:17,210 --> 06:43:18,211
this testing analysis.

12600
06:43:18,211 --> 06:43:19,679
Respectfully, and I'll address

12601
06:43:19,679 --> 06:43:22,679
this to you, Doctor Cohn.

12602
06:43:23,316 --> 06:43:26,316
That's too high. 31% is too

12603
06:43:26,553 --> 06:43:28,421
high. I don't want six

12604
06:43:28,421 --> 06:43:29,422
instances of something

12605
06:43:29,422 --> 06:43:31,822
pornographic or harmful to

12606
06:43:31,959 --> 06:43:33,693
students or whatever, slipping

12607
06:43:33,693 --> 06:43:35,461
through on an interaction and

12608
06:43:35,461 --> 06:43:36,997
getting to, you know, a next

12609
06:43:36,997 --> 06:43:38,532
level or wherever it goes

12610
06:43:38,532 --> 06:43:40,932
without properly being flagged

12611
06:43:41,668 --> 06:43:44,504
for teacher review. What can we

12612
06:43:44,504 --> 06:43:47,408
do to ensure that 31% of the

12613
06:43:47,408 --> 06:43:49,943
time, bad things are not being

12614
06:43:49,943 --> 06:43:52,790
missed? For teacher review

12615
06:43:52,790 --> 06:43:54,790
flagging.

12616
06:43:54,114 --> 06:43:55,282
>> So one of the things that we

12617
06:43:55,282 --> 06:43:58,282
do, we're constantly in contact

12618
06:43:58,619 --> 06:43:59,653
with Magic School in. That's a

12619
06:43:59,653 --> 06:44:01,655
reciprocal relationship. So as

12620
06:44:01,655 --> 06:44:03,657
we provide additional feedback

12621
06:44:03,657 --> 06:44:05,826
to them on things that that

12622
06:44:05,826 --> 06:44:07,940
raise to our levels, they are

12623
06:44:07,940 --> 06:44:09,960
part of the conversation.

12624
06:44:09,960 --> 06:44:11,496
They're making adjustments to

12625
06:44:11,532 --> 06:44:13,300
their platform and, and they're

12626
06:44:13,300 --> 06:44:14,702
fixing those things. And so we

12627
06:44:14,702 --> 06:44:15,636
have a very great relationship

12628
06:44:15,636 --> 06:44:18,372
with them that they've been

12629
06:44:18,372 --> 06:44:21,242
very responsive to the feedback

12630
06:44:21,242 --> 06:44:23,770
that we had. But but again,

12631
06:44:23,770 --> 06:44:24,845
I'll go back to what Manny had

12632
06:44:24,845 --> 06:44:25,679
mentioned. We did a very

12633
06:44:25,679 --> 06:44:27,679
comprehensive assessment with

12634
06:44:28,482 --> 06:44:31,850
the rubric in that the majority

12635
06:44:31,850 --> 06:44:32,553
of the time that we have done

12636
06:44:32,553 --> 06:44:34,522
in end user testing, they've

12637
06:44:34,522 --> 06:44:35,889
come up positively. But I

12638
06:44:35,889 --> 06:44:37,223
understand your point, and it

12639
06:44:37,223 --> 06:44:38,592
is the relationship that we've

12640
06:44:38,592 --> 06:44:40,728
been consistently working with

12641
06:44:40,728 --> 06:44:42,496
them to ensure that that 30%

12642
06:44:42,496 --> 06:44:42,862
gets to almost nil.

12643
06:44:42,862 --> 06:44:44,732
>> Okay.

12644
06:44:44,732 --> 06:44:46,834
>> I would like to clarify if I

12645
06:44:46,834 --> 06:44:47,902
can, regarding and and this is

12646
06:44:47,902 --> 06:44:50,710
something that's going to come

12647
06:44:50,710 --> 06:44:52,390
out. I think a suggestion was

12648
06:44:52,390 --> 06:44:53,740
made to make sure that we make

12649
06:44:53,740 --> 06:44:54,375
the rubric public, which we

12650
06:44:54,375 --> 06:44:56,110
have shared it, but making it

12651
06:44:56,110 --> 06:44:58,120
public so all parents can see

12652
06:44:58,120 --> 06:44:59,447
it is going to help. But that

12653
06:44:59,447 --> 06:45:01,649
specific rubric, the way it was

12654
06:45:01,649 --> 06:45:03,170
designed, there were several

12655
06:45:03,170 --> 06:45:06,287
categories that it was if you

12656
06:45:06,287 --> 06:45:08,221
failed it, that was a hard no.

12657
06:45:08,221 --> 06:45:09,823
I could provide more. I could

12658
06:45:09,823 --> 06:45:11,250
share the rubric and provide

12659
06:45:11,250 --> 06:45:12,794
more details as to which ones

12660
06:45:12,794 --> 06:45:14,629
they were, but I'm pretty sure

12661
06:45:14,629 --> 06:45:17,290
they were self-harm, violence,

12662
06:45:17,498 --> 06:45:19,567
the major categories where if

12663
06:45:19,567 --> 06:45:22,136
one would have done it,

12664
06:45:22,136 --> 06:45:23,905
wouldn't have passed. As far as

12665
06:45:23,905 --> 06:45:25,773
other types of interactions,

12666
06:45:25,773 --> 06:45:27,800
because this rubric was more

12667
06:45:27,800 --> 06:45:29,743
than just a safety rubric, it

12668
06:45:29,743 --> 06:45:31,846
was also checking to see how it

12669
06:45:31,846 --> 06:45:33,648
interacted from an educational

12670
06:45:33,648 --> 06:45:34,516
standpoint, how it redirected

12671
06:45:34,516 --> 06:45:36,500
conversations. There were other

12672
06:45:36,500 --> 06:45:38,686
things that were rated on a

12673
06:45:38,686 --> 06:45:40,855
scale. I believe we used 0 to 3

12674
06:45:40,855 --> 06:45:42,357
on each of these, and some of

12675
06:45:42,357 --> 06:45:45,192
those were just averaged out,

12676
06:45:45,192 --> 06:45:48,620
but some of them were hard nos.

12677
06:45:48,620 --> 06:45:49,863
So I can safely say that the

12678
06:45:49,863 --> 06:45:51,299
interactions that you're

12679
06:45:51,299 --> 06:45:52,734
discussing, none of them were

12680
06:45:52,734 --> 06:45:54,135
on the categories that would

12681
06:45:54,135 --> 06:45:55,269
have resulted in a complete

12682
06:45:55,269 --> 06:45:57,104
failure of the tool.

12683
06:45:57,104 --> 06:45:58,873
>> I don't want any

12684
06:45:58,873 --> 06:46:00,873
inappropriate content. Making

12685
06:46:01,709 --> 06:46:04,312
its way through 31% is too high

12686
06:46:04,312 --> 06:46:06,781
in my book. If my son were to

12687
06:46:06,781 --> 06:46:08,216
go on Google and search 19

12688
06:46:08,216 --> 06:46:09,217
times for something

12689
06:46:09,217 --> 06:46:10,352
inappropriate, of course he

12690
06:46:10,352 --> 06:46:12,220
never would because he knows

12691
06:46:12,220 --> 06:46:14,223
his his dad would have a word

12692
06:46:14,223 --> 06:46:15,457
with him, but if he were to do

12693
06:46:15,457 --> 06:46:16,358
that 19 times with our internet

12694
06:46:16,358 --> 06:46:18,326
blocking technology that we

12695
06:46:18,326 --> 06:46:19,428
have at home, and he was able

12696
06:46:19,428 --> 06:46:21,262
to get through six times, I

12697
06:46:21,262 --> 06:46:23,365
would be very concerned and

12698
06:46:23,365 --> 06:46:24,733
very upset. So while I

12699
06:46:24,733 --> 06:46:25,934
understand that it MAY not have

12700
06:46:25,934 --> 06:46:27,668
been the worst of the worst

12701
06:46:27,668 --> 06:46:29,838
type of searches that were

12702
06:46:29,838 --> 06:46:30,939
missed 31% of the time, if

12703
06:46:30,939 --> 06:46:33,339
anything inappropriate for our

12704
06:46:33,775 --> 06:46:34,943
students is way too high. So we

12705
06:46:34,943 --> 06:46:36,780
need to have some serious

12706
06:46:36,780 --> 06:46:37,345
conversations with these folks

12707
06:46:37,345 --> 06:46:38,814
and make sure they're doing

12708
06:46:38,814 --> 06:46:41,160
everything they need to do to

12709
06:46:41,160 --> 06:46:43,485
protect these kids from this

12710
06:46:43,485 --> 06:46:44,686
technology. And it's not good

12711
06:46:44,686 --> 06:46:46,488
enough to say, well, we only

12712
06:46:46,488 --> 06:46:47,823
got the worst of the worst,

12713
06:46:47,823 --> 06:46:49,558
right? We only got the hardcore

12714
06:46:49,558 --> 06:46:50,726
porn, but the soft core porn,

12715
06:46:50,726 --> 06:46:51,759
you know, that was that was

12716
06:46:51,759 --> 06:46:53,962
something different. That's not

12717
06:46:53,962 --> 06:46:55,397
good enough for me. And

12718
06:46:55,397 --> 06:46:56,832
obviously I'm being being

12719
06:46:56,832 --> 06:46:59,735
bombastic to draw emphasis to

12720
06:46:59,735 --> 06:47:01,936
this, but I want 100%

12721
06:47:01,936 --> 06:47:02,938
proficiency with this. I want

12722
06:47:02,938 --> 06:47:04,773
100% flagging when

12723
06:47:04,773 --> 06:47:07,173
inappropriate comments are made,

12724
06:47:09,678 --> 06:47:10,979
not 70%, 100%. So if this thing

12725
06:47:10,979 --> 06:47:12,681
is going to be integrated into

12726
06:47:12,681 --> 06:47:13,849
our into our schools and with

12727
06:47:13,849 --> 06:47:15,170
our young ones, we need to

12728
06:47:15,170 --> 06:47:16,885
strive for better numbers than

12729
06:47:16,885 --> 06:47:18,253
that because 31% of the time

12730
06:47:18,253 --> 06:47:20,653
missing, that's not acceptable

12731
06:47:21,256 --> 06:47:24,526
to me. I'm going to switch

12732
06:47:24,526 --> 06:47:28,726
topics, if I MAY. Moving on to

12733
06:47:31,133 --> 06:47:32,734
the Nova platform. I apologize.

12734
06:47:32,734 --> 06:47:36,334
I don't remember what number on

12735
06:47:40,943 --> 06:47:44,543
the slide it was. 31 or 30. I'm

12736
06:47:50,853 --> 06:47:53,853
sorry. Thank you. Doctor Cohen,

12737
06:47:54,523 --> 06:47:55,658
did you talk to principal repo

12738
06:47:55,658 --> 06:47:57,626
from Eisenhower Elementary

12739
06:47:57,626 --> 06:47:59,462
School about this Nova

12740
06:47:59,462 --> 06:48:01,230
innovation zone?

12741
06:48:01,230 --> 06:48:02,732
>> Yes. We actually had a a

12742
06:48:02,732 --> 06:48:03,640
teams call with all the

12743
06:48:03,640 --> 06:48:04,467
principals.

12744
06:48:04,467 --> 06:48:05,835
>> Did you talk to Principal

12745
06:48:05,835 --> 06:48:07,680
Schwartz at Blanche Forum?

12746
06:48:07,680 --> 06:48:09,380
>> Yes, he was on the call.

12747
06:48:09,380 --> 06:48:10,206
>> Did you talk to MR. G at

12748
06:48:10,206 --> 06:48:10,939
Nova Middle? Yes.

12749
06:48:10,939 --> 06:48:12,410
>> Did you.

12750
06:48:12,410 --> 06:48:12,808
>> All principals are on the

12751
06:48:12,808 --> 06:48:14,143
call.

12752
06:48:14,143 --> 06:48:16,120
>> I'm going to go through my

12753
06:48:16,120 --> 06:48:17,780
list. Did you talk to principal

12754
06:48:17,780 --> 06:48:18,881
at Nova High School?

12755
06:48:18,881 --> 06:48:20,716
>> She was on the call.

12756
06:48:20,716 --> 06:48:22,850
>> Okay, fantastic. And how

12757
06:48:22,850 --> 06:48:24,454
would you describe their

12758
06:48:24,454 --> 06:48:26,456
enthusiasm for this prospective

12759
06:48:26,456 --> 06:48:28,456
Nova innovation zone?

12760
06:48:28,524 --> 06:48:30,359
>> They were very curious. They

12761
06:48:30,359 --> 06:48:32,562
wanted more information about

12762
06:48:32,562 --> 06:48:34,290
it, and we said that we wanted

12763
06:48:34,290 --> 06:48:35,231
to bring it to the board

12764
06:48:35,231 --> 06:48:37,233
because no decisions could be

12765
06:48:37,233 --> 06:48:39,368
made until we get board

12766
06:48:39,368 --> 06:48:40,803
consensus and direction on this.

12767
06:48:40,803 --> 06:48:41,637
So it was more of an

12768
06:48:41,637 --> 06:48:43,637
exploratory conversation. We

12769
06:48:43,673 --> 06:48:46,175
went over the Nova concept with

12770
06:48:46,175 --> 06:48:47,677
them in the deck that we shared

12771
06:48:47,677 --> 06:48:49,440
with them. So they had that

12772
06:48:49,440 --> 06:48:50,379
piece and they were very

12773
06:48:50,379 --> 06:48:52,749
excited. I had an opportunity

12774
06:48:52,749 --> 06:48:55,551
to speak with MR. Schwartz at

12775
06:48:55,551 --> 06:48:57,653
the JUNE 8th principal

12776
06:48:57,653 --> 06:48:59,522
convening, and he was extremely

12777
06:48:59,522 --> 06:49:01,290
excited and enthusiastic about

12778
06:49:01,290 --> 06:49:02,458
it, wanting to know more and

12779
06:49:02,458 --> 06:49:05,695
wanting to know what more he

12780
06:49:05,695 --> 06:49:06,362
can do to be a part of this

12781
06:49:06,362 --> 06:49:08,164
initiative.

12782
06:49:08,164 --> 06:49:09,264
>> So Principal Schwartz was

12783
06:49:09,264 --> 06:49:11,100
excited. Yes. And everybody

12784
06:49:11,100 --> 06:49:11,768
else was curious.

12785
06:49:11,768 --> 06:49:13,690
>> Yeah, yeah.

12786
06:49:13,690 --> 06:49:13,569
>> Okay. Nobody else was

12787
06:49:13,569 --> 06:49:15,138
excited. Just curious.

12788
06:49:15,138 --> 06:49:16,306
>> I'm sure they were all

12789
06:49:16,306 --> 06:49:17,390
excited. It was hard to tell

12790
06:49:17,390 --> 06:49:18,107
online.

12791
06:49:18,107 --> 06:49:19,142
>> Okay, well, sometimes.

12792
06:49:19,142 --> 06:49:20,376
Sometimes it is difficult to

12793
06:49:20,376 --> 06:49:22,178
gauge emotion over Zoom, I get

12794
06:49:22,178 --> 06:49:23,313
it. Yeah. Let me ask you a

12795
06:49:23,313 --> 06:49:25,215
question, sir. How many town

12796
06:49:25,215 --> 06:49:26,883
halls did you have with parents

12797
06:49:26,883 --> 06:49:28,318
and community members in n d

12798
06:49:28,318 --> 06:49:29,819
ound the Nova campupuabout

12799
06:49:29,819 --> 06:49:30,553
is pspsptiveve I iovationn

12800
06:49:30,553 --> 06:49:32,355
zo?

12801
06:49:32,355 --> 06:49:33,789
>>e havnono had any

12802
06:49:33,789 --> 06:49:34,925
coununity town halls. We were

12803
06:49:34,925 --> 06:49:35,959
waiting to get direction from

12804
06:49:35,959 --> 06:49:37,959
the board.

12805
06:49:39,496 --> 06:49:41,464
>> How many community outreach

12806
06:49:41,464 --> 06:49:44,464
emails or social media blasts

12807
06:49:44,568 --> 06:49:45,668
or anything like that did you

12808
06:49:45,668 --> 06:49:47,103
participate in in regards to

12809
06:49:47,103 --> 06:49:48,170
the Nova Innovation Zone?

12810
06:49:48,170 --> 06:49:50,170
>> None yet.

12811
06:49:51,410 --> 06:49:53,176
>> Okay. So the extent of your

12812
06:49:53,176 --> 06:49:55,450
outreach for this as a Zoom

12813
06:49:55,450 --> 06:49:56,646
call with the four principals

12814
06:49:56,646 --> 06:49:57,680
who make up the Nova community.

12815
06:49:57,680 --> 06:49:59,683
>> To make them aware.

12816
06:49:59,683 --> 06:50:01,518
>> Did you do anything else.

12817
06:50:01,518 --> 06:50:03,387
>> Outside of the different

12818
06:50:03,387 --> 06:50:05,787
agencies, the colleges, the

12819
06:50:05,822 --> 06:50:07,590
businesses to garner some

12820
06:50:07,590 --> 06:50:09,225
feedback input around this

12821
06:50:09,225 --> 06:50:11,225
initiative? Stakeholder groups

12822
06:50:12,228 --> 06:50:14,300
we had internally with Biff and

12823
06:50:14,300 --> 06:50:16,430
other external people, not

12824
06:50:18,000 --> 06:50:19,203
nothing beyond that.

12825
06:50:19,203 --> 06:50:21,972
>> Where in the district is

12826
06:50:21,972 --> 06:50:23,473
Nova located?

12827
06:50:23,473 --> 06:50:25,473
>> Central.

12828
06:50:25,609 --> 06:50:28,780
>> What city or excuse me, what

12829
06:50:28,780 --> 06:50:31,140
town and who represents the

12830
06:50:31,140 --> 06:50:32,820
town of Davie?

12831
06:50:32,820 --> 06:50:33,383
>> Oh.

12832
06:50:33,383 --> 06:50:34,618
>> DR. Zeman you have your hand

12833
06:50:34,618 --> 06:50:35,652
up.

12834
06:50:35,652 --> 06:50:37,120
>> Well, the question.

12835
06:50:37,120 --> 06:50:37,855
>> Was talking about board

12836
06:50:37,855 --> 06:50:39,389
mayor.

12837
06:50:39,389 --> 06:50:41,458
>> Commissioner what? Who on

12838
06:50:41,458 --> 06:50:43,458
this board specifically

12839
06:50:44,695 --> 06:50:46,497
represents the town of Davie?

12840
06:50:46,497 --> 06:50:47,530
This is a layup cone.

12841
06:50:47,530 --> 06:50:49,530
>> You, MR. Cervera.

12842
06:50:49,533 --> 06:50:51,135
>> Thank you. MISS Leonardi

12843
06:50:51,135 --> 06:50:52,436
made a comment about how she

12844
06:50:52,436 --> 06:50:55,406
didn't like when teachers found

12845
06:50:55,406 --> 06:50:57,274
out about things from new media

12846
06:50:57,274 --> 06:50:58,641
reports and things like that.

12847
06:50:58,641 --> 06:51:01,111
You know, when I found out

12848
06:51:01,111 --> 06:51:02,212
about this. When on Saturday,

12849
06:51:02,212 --> 06:51:04,148
when I printed this out to

12850
06:51:04,148 --> 06:51:05,583
prepare for the meeting today.

12851
06:51:05,583 --> 06:51:06,817
>> You had workshops?

12852
06:51:06,817 --> 06:51:07,885
>> Yeah, we've had workshops on

12853
06:51:07,885 --> 06:51:09,619
this before. MR. Cervera.

12854
06:51:09,619 --> 06:51:10,721
>> I don't know the the

12855
06:51:10,721 --> 06:51:12,789
specific zone on all of this.

12856
06:51:12,789 --> 06:51:13,858
My point is, I wasn't involved

12857
06:51:13,858 --> 06:51:15,693
in the conversations that you

12858
06:51:15,693 --> 06:51:17,161
had with the principals. Okay.

12859
06:51:17,161 --> 06:51:18,228
My parents weren't involved in

12860
06:51:18,228 --> 06:51:20,330
the conversations that you had

12861
06:51:20,330 --> 06:51:21,732
with the principals. I don't

12862
06:51:21,732 --> 06:51:23,567
know specifically where I sit

12863
06:51:23,567 --> 06:51:25,803
on this yet. This is going to

12864
06:51:25,803 --> 06:51:27,705
get fleshed out, but before it

12865
06:51:27,705 --> 06:51:30,808
does, I think we need to do a

12866
06:51:30,808 --> 06:51:33,310
better job of communicating to

12867
06:51:33,310 --> 06:51:35,479
our constituents, to our

12868
06:51:35,479 --> 06:51:38,150
residents about what we plan on

12869
06:51:38,150 --> 06:51:38,882
doing. Okay, so people aren't

12870
06:51:38,882 --> 06:51:39,951
seeing this because remember

12871
06:51:39,951 --> 06:51:41,785
the bus route thing that we

12872
06:51:41,785 --> 06:51:43,200
went with Nova? We were going

12873
06:51:43,200 --> 06:51:45,420
to divert 17 different routes

12874
06:51:45,823 --> 06:51:47,124
to Nova. Sure. I got a lot of a

12875
06:51:47,124 --> 06:51:48,925
lot of angry parents calling me

12876
06:51:48,925 --> 06:51:50,627
after that. Yeah, a lot of

12877
06:51:50,627 --> 06:51:52,496
angry parents. And I don't want

12878
06:51:52,496 --> 06:51:55,233
this to to happen here where

12879
06:51:55,233 --> 06:51:56,701
more people are off that they

12880
06:51:56,701 --> 06:51:58,836
weren't involved in the initial

12881
06:51:58,836 --> 06:52:00,304
workup and perhaps losing track

12882
06:52:00,304 --> 06:52:02,439
of the prospective benefits

12883
06:52:02,439 --> 06:52:04,508
from doing something like this,

12884
06:52:04,508 --> 06:52:06,778
right? I agree, so we need to

12885
06:52:06,778 --> 06:52:08,179
do a better job. Okay.

12886
06:52:08,179 --> 06:52:09,380
Collectively as a district, we

12887
06:52:09,380 --> 06:52:11,215
need to do a better job of

12888
06:52:11,215 --> 06:52:13,318
making people feel like they're

12889
06:52:13,318 --> 06:52:14,819
part of the process. I would

12890
06:52:14,819 --> 06:52:16,554
have loved to be on that, on

12891
06:52:16,554 --> 06:52:17,922
that teams call with you

12892
06:52:17,922 --> 06:52:19,590
learning about this, I would

12893
06:52:19,590 --> 06:52:21,893
have loved to at least get

12894
06:52:21,893 --> 06:52:24,128
something out. You know, I do a

12895
06:52:24,128 --> 06:52:25,396
weekly newsletter update that

12896
06:52:25,396 --> 06:52:26,931
comes directly from my office.

12897
06:52:26,931 --> 06:52:28,699
I could have put something out

12898
06:52:28,699 --> 06:52:31,636
about this to just let people

12899
06:52:31,636 --> 06:52:33,438
know what is going on, right?

12900
06:52:33,438 --> 06:52:34,405
Because when people are fed

12901
06:52:34,405 --> 06:52:36,306
information, they feel like

12902
06:52:36,306 --> 06:52:37,741
they're part of the process and

12903
06:52:37,741 --> 06:52:39,177
generally they're less angry

12904
06:52:39,177 --> 06:52:41,450
about it. They MAY not agree

12905
06:52:41,450 --> 06:52:42,213
with it 100% of the time, but

12906
06:52:42,213 --> 06:52:44,182
they're less angry about it. So

12907
06:52:44,182 --> 06:52:46,500
I use this as an example only

12908
06:52:46,500 --> 06:52:47,385
to let's not go into this

12909
06:52:47,385 --> 06:52:48,520
already behind the eight ball,

12910
06:52:48,520 --> 06:52:51,210
because people feel like we're

12911
06:52:51,210 --> 06:52:53,658
doing this behind closed doors,

12912
06:52:53,658 --> 06:52:55,727
right? And let's be perhaps a

12913
06:52:55,727 --> 06:52:57,596
little bit more vocal about

12914
06:52:57,596 --> 06:52:59,731
prospective plans with this,

12915
06:52:59,731 --> 06:53:01,399
because I assure you, when we

12916
06:53:01,399 --> 06:53:02,433
leave today, I'm going to start

12917
06:53:02,433 --> 06:53:03,667
getting the text messages and

12918
06:53:03,667 --> 06:53:05,437
phone calls about this from my

12919
06:53:05,437 --> 06:53:06,571
Nova parents, just like I did

12920
06:53:06,571 --> 06:53:08,406
with the bus stuff.

12921
06:53:08,406 --> 06:53:09,574
>> So, MR. Cervera, you make a

12922
06:53:09,574 --> 06:53:10,508
if I can interrupt, you make a

12923
06:53:10,508 --> 06:53:11,609
good point.

12924
06:53:11,609 --> 06:53:12,778
>> I generally do have.

12925
06:53:12,778 --> 06:53:14,546
>> But I want clarification

12926
06:53:14,546 --> 06:53:15,547
from the board on this because

12927
06:53:15,547 --> 06:53:17,415
our cadence. Normally, before

12928
06:53:17,415 --> 06:53:19,217
we go out and have large scale

12929
06:53:19,217 --> 06:53:20,585
meetings with community members,

12930
06:53:20,585 --> 06:53:22,354
teachers and all of that, we

12931
06:53:22,354 --> 06:53:24,556
bring that to the board in a

12932
06:53:24,556 --> 06:53:25,724
workshop first to get consensus

12933
06:53:25,724 --> 06:53:27,591
because the board, we can go

12934
06:53:27,591 --> 06:53:28,826
out and do all of that, and

12935
06:53:28,826 --> 06:53:30,529
then the board says, oh, you

12936
06:53:30,529 --> 06:53:31,697
know what? This isn't something

12937
06:53:31,697 --> 06:53:33,532
that, you know, we have

12938
06:53:33,532 --> 06:53:35,266
consensus on or we want to do.

12939
06:53:35,266 --> 06:53:37,835
And staff is, you know, putting

12940
06:53:37,835 --> 06:53:39,271
a lot of time and effort and

12941
06:53:39,271 --> 06:53:40,271
gotten community feedback or

12942
06:53:40,271 --> 06:53:41,839
whatever the case MAY be.

12943
06:53:41,839 --> 06:53:43,809
Normally the cadence for us is

12944
06:53:43,809 --> 06:53:44,976
to bring it to the board. I

12945
06:53:44,976 --> 06:53:46,278
understand the, the in talking

12946
06:53:46,278 --> 06:53:47,511
to individual board members,

12947
06:53:47,511 --> 06:53:49,314
and we can definitely improve

12948
06:53:49,314 --> 06:53:50,782
on that one initiative is

12949
06:53:50,782 --> 06:53:52,284
coming that impacts your area

12950
06:53:52,284 --> 06:53:53,619
or any board member's area. But

12951
06:53:53,619 --> 06:53:55,587
for the large scale part of

12952
06:53:55,587 --> 06:53:57,556
going to go talk to a massive

12953
06:53:57,556 --> 06:53:59,324
amount of people, staff,

12954
06:53:59,324 --> 06:54:00,791
teachers, community members

12955
06:54:00,791 --> 06:54:03,662
before we bring something to

12956
06:54:03,662 --> 06:54:05,497
the board to get feedback

12957
06:54:05,497 --> 06:54:06,899
directions, our cadence is

12958
06:54:06,899 --> 06:54:08,990
normally to do that first, get

12959
06:54:08,990 --> 06:54:10,136
the feedback, the direction so

12960
06:54:10,136 --> 06:54:11,970
we know what exactly to

12961
06:54:11,970 --> 06:54:13,739
communicate to the stakeholders

12962
06:54:13,739 --> 06:54:16,307
just to make sure there's no

12963
06:54:16,307 --> 06:54:17,509
change. And what if we did it

12964
06:54:17,509 --> 06:54:19,144
the opposite way around of what

12965
06:54:19,144 --> 06:54:20,979
I'm hearing. So I just want to

12966
06:54:20,979 --> 06:54:22,800
get consensus from the board on

12967
06:54:22,800 --> 06:54:23,649
that because we're fine doing

12968
06:54:23,649 --> 06:54:26,318
it either way. But the cadence

12969
06:54:26,318 --> 06:54:27,486
that we've used thus far is to

12970
06:54:27,486 --> 06:54:28,921
make sure we bring things to

12971
06:54:28,921 --> 06:54:31,423
the board, because many of

12972
06:54:31,423 --> 06:54:33,926
these large scale impacts to

12973
06:54:33,926 --> 06:54:35,728
the district is a board

12974
06:54:35,728 --> 06:54:37,463
decision as well. Before we go

12975
06:54:37,463 --> 06:54:38,931
back out to the community,

12976
06:54:38,931 --> 06:54:41,133
based on the feedback that

12977
06:54:41,133 --> 06:54:42,935
impacts changes sometimes, or

12978
06:54:42,935 --> 06:54:43,668
no support at all for an

12979
06:54:43,668 --> 06:54:44,869
initiative.

12980
06:54:44,869 --> 06:54:47,273
>> When the board is tasked

12981
06:54:47,273 --> 06:54:48,374
with making these decisions,

12982
06:54:48,374 --> 06:54:49,742
I'm very interested to know

12983
06:54:49,742 --> 06:54:51,410
what my community thinks.

12984
06:54:51,410 --> 06:54:52,678
>> And so I get what you're

12985
06:54:52,678 --> 06:54:53,679
saying. But as far as the

12986
06:54:53,679 --> 06:54:55,414
consensus for the for the.

12987
06:54:55,414 --> 06:54:55,848
>> Board, and that's fine.

12988
06:54:55,848 --> 06:54:57,817
That's fine.

12989
06:54:57,817 --> 06:54:59,118
>> But Nova is in district six.

12990
06:54:59,118 --> 06:55:00,419
I have an obligation and duty

12991
06:55:00,419 --> 06:55:02,354
to represent the constituents

12992
06:55:02,354 --> 06:55:03,989
in district six. Okay. They

12993
06:55:03,989 --> 06:55:05,258
need to have an they have need

12994
06:55:05,258 --> 06:55:07,930
to have a right. They need to

12995
06:55:07,930 --> 06:55:08,160
have an outlet to come. It

12996
06:55:08,160 --> 06:55:09,262
doesn't have to be anything

12997
06:55:09,262 --> 06:55:11,364
fancy. Right. We don't need

12998
06:55:11,364 --> 06:55:12,831
lasers and fireworks. We can

12999
06:55:12,831 --> 06:55:15,340
open up a gym somewhere and

13000
06:55:15,340 --> 06:55:16,969
invite parents to come in. I'll

13001
06:55:16,969 --> 06:55:18,137
do it. You want me to do it?

13002
06:55:18,137 --> 06:55:20,390
I'll get Lisa involved and

13003
06:55:20,390 --> 06:55:21,741
we'll do it. But just to have

13004
06:55:21,741 --> 06:55:23,843
the opportunity for them to

13005
06:55:23,843 --> 06:55:25,770
come and say, hey, listen,

13006
06:55:25,770 --> 06:55:26,145
we've all seen this now. We've

13007
06:55:26,145 --> 06:55:27,146
all seen the presentation.

13008
06:55:27,146 --> 06:55:29,515
Here's what's being proposed in

13009
06:55:29,515 --> 06:55:31,184
your school, right? What are

13010
06:55:31,184 --> 06:55:33,184
your thoughts?

13011
06:55:34,387 --> 06:55:37,987
>> But what I'm saying is the

13012
06:55:38,358 --> 06:55:40,125
proposal ultimately sometimes

13013
06:55:40,125 --> 06:55:41,961
changes when it comes to the

13014
06:55:41,961 --> 06:55:43,496
board. So I just want to make

13015
06:55:43,496 --> 06:55:44,797
sure we're not being premature

13016
06:55:44,797 --> 06:55:45,865
going out, having a

13017
06:55:45,865 --> 06:55:47,734
conversation that ultimately

13018
06:55:47,734 --> 06:55:50,937
changes, and then we're back to

13019
06:55:50,937 --> 06:55:52,405
square one or nothing. You know,

13020
06:55:52,405 --> 06:55:52,738
there's no support for the

13021
06:55:52,738 --> 06:55:54,730
initiative.

13022
06:55:54,730 --> 06:55:55,174
>> But it's always going to

13023
06:55:55,174 --> 06:55:57,109
change Doctor Hepburn because

13024
06:55:57,109 --> 06:55:58,310
if it comes to the board and we

13025
06:55:58,310 --> 06:55:59,646
vote no, then everything is

13026
06:55:59,646 --> 06:56:01,180
scrapped anyway. Right.

13027
06:56:01,180 --> 06:56:03,830
>> No I got I got it. I just

13028
06:56:03,830 --> 06:56:04,284
want to you know I hear the

13029
06:56:04,284 --> 06:56:05,150
concern. I just want to make.

13030
06:56:05,150 --> 06:56:07,530
>> Sure I.

13031
06:56:07,530 --> 06:56:08,880
>> Just staff is taking the

13032
06:56:08,880 --> 06:56:08,721
right cadence when we're

13033
06:56:08,721 --> 06:56:10,123
communicating with constituents.

13034
06:56:10,123 --> 06:56:12,191
>> I understand. But I, I say

13035
06:56:12,191 --> 06:56:14,194
this a lot and I will say it

13036
06:56:14,194 --> 06:56:15,161
again, a lot of times on things

13037
06:56:15,161 --> 06:56:16,280
like this, we have

13038
06:56:16,280 --> 06:56:17,263
communication problems. We

13039
06:56:17,263 --> 06:56:18,665
don't engage with our community

13040
06:56:18,665 --> 06:56:20,367
members, with our constituents

13041
06:56:20,367 --> 06:56:21,468
enough. And lots of times

13042
06:56:21,468 --> 06:56:23,736
they're seeing this for the

13043
06:56:23,736 --> 06:56:25,105
first time in a workshop, a

13044
06:56:25,105 --> 06:56:26,390
board meeting, whatever it MAY

13045
06:56:26,390 --> 06:56:27,240
be. And they're like, well,

13046
06:56:27,240 --> 06:56:28,842
wait a second. There's this

13047
06:56:28,842 --> 06:56:29,943
proposal for an innovation zone.

13048
06:56:29,943 --> 06:56:31,811
This is affecting a lot of

13049
06:56:31,811 --> 06:56:32,946
these kids. Go to the Nova

13050
06:56:32,946 --> 06:56:34,847
pipeline. So a lot of the

13051
06:56:34,847 --> 06:56:35,916
little ones that are in, in

13052
06:56:35,916 --> 06:56:37,117
elementary school right now are

13053
06:56:37,117 --> 06:56:38,952
going to go to middle and

13054
06:56:38,952 --> 06:56:39,986
they're going to go to high

13055
06:56:39,986 --> 06:56:41,121
there. They stay in that

13056
06:56:41,121 --> 06:56:42,289
pipeline. I'm sure they have

13057
06:56:42,289 --> 06:56:43,857
very strong feelings, probably

13058
06:56:43,857 --> 06:56:45,580
on both sides, right, about

13059
06:56:45,580 --> 06:56:46,859
what's going on here and before

13060
06:56:46,859 --> 06:56:48,270
we before we vote, before we

13061
06:56:48,270 --> 06:56:49,996
can say however you want to say

13062
06:56:49,996 --> 06:56:53,199
it, I need to know what my

13063
06:56:53,199 --> 06:56:55,769
community in the Nova Pipeline

13064
06:56:55,769 --> 06:56:56,103
thinks about this proposal.

13065
06:56:56,103 --> 06:56:57,604
>> Yeah.

13066
06:56:57,604 --> 06:57:00,604
>> And thank you, MR. Cervera.

13067
06:57:00,740 --> 06:57:01,908
I think that to your point, if

13068
06:57:01,908 --> 06:57:03,710
given the direction from the

13069
06:57:03,710 --> 06:57:05,144
board, that's where you all

13070
06:57:05,144 --> 06:57:07,280
want us to go. We're happy to

13071
06:57:07,280 --> 06:57:08,515
do that. But this is not the

13072
06:57:08,515 --> 06:57:10,149
first time we actually shared

13073
06:57:10,149 --> 06:57:11,885
the Nova concept. We actually

13074
06:57:11,885 --> 06:57:13,419
shared it on MAY 12th during

13075
06:57:13,419 --> 06:57:15,155
the Redefining Board workshop.

13076
06:57:15,155 --> 06:57:16,957
So this is actually the second

13077
06:57:16,957 --> 06:57:18,425
time we're bringing the Nova

13078
06:57:18,425 --> 06:57:19,859
concept to the board. But I

13079
06:57:19,859 --> 06:57:20,593
hear what you're saying, and I

13080
06:57:20,593 --> 06:57:22,620
agree.

13081
06:57:22,620 --> 06:57:23,830
>> This is a lot more elaborate.

13082
06:57:23,830 --> 06:57:25,599
This is a lot more full scale.

13083
06:57:25,599 --> 06:57:26,767
This is a lot more detailed.

13084
06:57:26,767 --> 06:57:28,135
And this ties directly into the

13085
06:57:28,135 --> 06:57:29,936
ai project. I understand what

13086
06:57:29,936 --> 06:57:31,371
was presented at the redefining,

13087
06:57:31,371 --> 06:57:33,390
but you and I can both agree

13088
06:57:33,390 --> 06:57:34,140
this is a little bit of a

13089
06:57:34,140 --> 06:57:35,943
different animal. And all I'm

13090
06:57:35,943 --> 06:57:37,911
saying is, listen, I'm not

13091
06:57:37,911 --> 06:57:39,446
saying I'm pro or against,

13092
06:57:39,446 --> 06:57:40,748
right. I honestly, I haven't

13093
06:57:40,748 --> 06:57:43,249
made up my mind yet. I will

13094
06:57:43,249 --> 06:57:44,350
tell you that my level of

13095
06:57:44,350 --> 06:57:47,950
concern seems to grow on a

13096
06:57:47,988 --> 06:57:49,356
daily basis about the ai risks.

13097
06:57:49,356 --> 06:57:50,724
Okay. But I'm I'm not

13098
06:57:50,724 --> 06:57:53,260
indicating one way or another.

13099
06:57:53,260 --> 06:57:54,395
All I'm saying is let my

13100
06:57:54,395 --> 06:57:56,795
constituents, let my community

13101
06:57:57,630 --> 06:57:59,900
members, let my, my, my Nova

13102
06:57:59,900 --> 06:58:01,668
parents come in and tell us

13103
06:58:01,668 --> 06:58:03,437
what they think about this. I

13104
06:58:03,437 --> 06:58:04,572
mean, this is going to be a

13105
06:58:04,572 --> 06:58:06,607
first of its kind, right?

13106
06:58:06,607 --> 06:58:08,809
Probably in the nation, right,

13107
06:58:08,809 --> 06:58:09,877
for public schools. Right.

13108
06:58:09,877 --> 06:58:10,978
Don't you think this is

13109
06:58:10,978 --> 06:58:12,613
important? It's critical that

13110
06:58:12,613 --> 06:58:14,148
we get this right if we're

13111
06:58:14,148 --> 06:58:15,649
going to be trailblazers, let's

13112
06:58:15,649 --> 06:58:17,170
check every box. Let's do

13113
06:58:17,170 --> 06:58:18,219
everything we need to do to

13114
06:58:18,219 --> 06:58:20,200
make sure we get this right.

13115
06:58:20,200 --> 06:58:22,423
And it starts with what does

13116
06:58:22,423 --> 06:58:24,291
our community want? If I hold a

13117
06:58:24,291 --> 06:58:25,693
town hall on this and I have

13118
06:58:25,693 --> 06:58:27,161
1500 parents coming in

13119
06:58:27,161 --> 06:58:28,396
screaming at me with pitchforks,

13120
06:58:28,396 --> 06:58:30,130
saying over my dead body that

13121
06:58:30,130 --> 06:58:32,166
this is going to happen at Nova,

13122
06:58:32,166 --> 06:58:34,340
guess what? I'm not going to

13123
06:58:34,340 --> 06:58:35,836
vote for this to happen at Nova,

13124
06:58:35,836 --> 06:58:37,700
right? But if it's the opposite

13125
06:58:37,700 --> 06:58:38,573
and everyone's saying this is

13126
06:58:38,573 --> 06:58:39,907
the greatest thing since sliced

13127
06:58:39,907 --> 06:58:41,943
bread, you know, that MAY sway

13128
06:58:41,943 --> 06:58:43,770
my decision as well. I need to

13129
06:58:43,770 --> 06:58:44,678
know what my constituents, I

13130
06:58:44,678 --> 06:58:46,680
need to know what my community.

13131
06:58:46,680 --> 06:58:47,948
I need to know what my pta moms

13132
06:58:47,948 --> 06:58:49,817
think. I need to know what my

13133
06:58:49,817 --> 06:58:50,818
parents think. I want to know

13134
06:58:50,818 --> 06:58:52,453
what the students think,

13135
06:58:52,453 --> 06:58:53,887
incidentally, as well. Right.

13136
06:58:53,887 --> 06:58:55,230
And I don't want something like

13137
06:58:55,230 --> 06:58:57,558
this. A first of its kind in

13138
06:58:57,558 --> 06:58:59,192
the nation, rolled out without

13139
06:58:59,192 --> 06:59:01,592
enough interaction from the

13140
06:59:02,960 --> 06:59:03,931
community to make sure that we

13141
06:59:03,931 --> 06:59:05,733
are adequately and properly

13142
06:59:05,733 --> 06:59:06,800
representing our constituents.

13143
06:59:06,800 --> 06:59:08,169
>> We can commit to that.

13144
06:59:08,169 --> 06:59:10,569
>> I appreciate that, Doctor

13145
06:59:12,574 --> 06:59:15,760
Cohen. I yield my time, chair.

13146
06:59:15,760 --> 06:59:16,210
>> Thank you, MISS Thompson.

13147
06:59:16,210 --> 06:59:18,111
>> Thank you. Chair. I didn't

13148
06:59:18,111 --> 06:59:19,280
know if there was going to be

13149
06:59:19,280 --> 06:59:21,490
board consensus, but I do think

13150
06:59:21,490 --> 06:59:22,349
it is our responsibility as

13151
06:59:22,349 --> 06:59:23,651
board members to go out and

13152
06:59:23,651 --> 06:59:25,520
educate our community on the

13153
06:59:25,520 --> 06:59:26,553
things that are happening in

13154
06:59:26,553 --> 06:59:27,655
our district. It's not a

13155
06:59:27,655 --> 06:59:28,756
responsibility of district

13156
06:59:28,756 --> 06:59:30,157
staff, especially when we've

13157
06:59:30,157 --> 06:59:32,327
had these proposals. It's what

13158
06:59:32,327 --> 06:59:34,828
I did with redefining to have

13159
06:59:34,828 --> 06:59:36,131
specific meetings that each

13160
06:59:36,131 --> 06:59:38,320
school that would potentially

13161
06:59:38,320 --> 06:59:40,401
be impacted. And then that way

13162
06:59:40,401 --> 06:59:42,337
I can communicate your concerns

13163
06:59:42,337 --> 06:59:44,238
or excitement, but to put that

13164
06:59:44,238 --> 06:59:46,700
on staff to then come back and

13165
06:59:46,700 --> 06:59:46,740
things have changed. It is our

13166
06:59:46,740 --> 06:59:48,176
responsibility as school board

13167
06:59:48,176 --> 06:59:50,679
members to host those town

13168
06:59:50,679 --> 06:59:52,213
halls and to figure out that

13169
06:59:52,213 --> 06:59:53,615
timeline. So I believe the way

13170
06:59:53,615 --> 06:59:55,750
we are currently doing

13171
06:59:55,750 --> 06:59:58,150
community engagement is the

13172
06:59:59,320 --> 07:00:01,720
right way. Thank you.

13173
07:00:02,657 --> 07:00:04,125
>> Thank you, MISS Bulman.

13174
07:00:04,125 --> 07:00:07,725
>> Thank you. I'll try to keep

13175
07:00:08,629 --> 07:00:10,499
it brief. So thank you for all

13176
07:00:10,499 --> 07:00:11,933
your work on this. I

13177
07:00:11,933 --> 07:00:13,734
appreciated all the public

13178
07:00:13,734 --> 07:00:15,169
comments. I think, you know,

13179
07:00:15,169 --> 07:00:17,380
since I've been on the board,

13180
07:00:17,380 --> 07:00:18,440
this has been an ongoing

13181
07:00:18,440 --> 07:00:19,941
conversation. I think we

13182
07:00:19,941 --> 07:00:22,341
started the whole conversation

13183
07:00:22,377 --> 07:00:25,747
around ai at a very heightened

13184
07:00:25,747 --> 07:00:27,783
alert with people not having a

13185
07:00:27,783 --> 07:00:31,486
lot of buy in and being very

13186
07:00:31,486 --> 07:00:32,821
afraid. And through the process,

13187
07:00:32,821 --> 07:00:36,910
I think you guys have made a

13188
07:00:36,910 --> 07:00:37,292
ton of ton of progress of

13189
07:00:37,292 --> 07:00:39,940
reassuring how this is going to

13190
07:00:39,940 --> 07:00:40,762
how this is going to work. I

13191
07:00:40,762 --> 07:00:43,162
really appreciate the chair,

13192
07:00:43,231 --> 07:00:46,168
All the work that you've done

13193
07:00:46,168 --> 07:00:47,235
and really leading off this

13194
07:00:47,235 --> 07:00:49,635
conversation today, I think

13195
07:00:50,138 --> 07:00:51,507
that the directives that were

13196
07:00:51,507 --> 07:00:53,108
given are going to be very

13197
07:00:53,108 --> 07:00:55,877
helpful, and I feel a lot

13198
07:00:55,877 --> 07:00:58,413
better about that. So I think

13199
07:00:58,413 --> 07:01:00,140
collectively, everyone's been

13200
07:01:00,140 --> 07:01:01,490
doing a good job on that.

13201
07:01:01,490 --> 07:01:03,449
Appreciate the wieners. Of

13202
07:01:05,187 --> 07:01:07,155
course, it's. Very appreciated

13203
07:01:07,155 --> 07:01:09,324
that you are so involved with

13204
07:01:09,324 --> 07:01:11,126
the youth and, you know, making

13205
07:01:11,126 --> 07:01:13,862
sure that we have the ability

13206
07:01:13,862 --> 07:01:15,730
to be at the forefront of the

13207
07:01:15,730 --> 07:01:17,660
tech of technology and what's

13208
07:01:17,660 --> 07:01:18,200
happening for the future of the

13209
07:01:18,200 --> 07:01:20,703
students. So thank you very

13210
07:01:20,703 --> 07:01:22,605
much. And, you know, I think

13211
07:01:22,605 --> 07:01:26,410
that that is one of the things

13212
07:01:26,410 --> 07:01:27,909
that's very important. I we

13213
07:01:27,909 --> 07:01:29,445
have to keep up with progress.

13214
07:01:29,445 --> 07:01:31,312
You know, I'm just I was just

13215
07:01:31,312 --> 07:01:32,514
thinking back when I was in

13216
07:01:32,514 --> 07:01:34,349
high school, I took a computer

13217
07:01:34,349 --> 07:01:36,185
class and it was on Apple tv

13218
07:01:36,185 --> 07:01:37,752
computers. The last year they

13219
07:01:37,752 --> 07:01:39,455
offered it, no one was using

13220
07:01:39,455 --> 07:01:40,889
Apple tv computers anymore, but

13221
07:01:40,889 --> 07:01:42,691
that's what they had in the lab.

13222
07:01:42,691 --> 07:01:43,893
I did very poorly on that

13223
07:01:43,893 --> 07:01:45,694
because why would I want to use

13224
07:01:45,694 --> 07:01:46,828
it? Because that's not what

13225
07:01:46,828 --> 07:01:48,630
we're using anymore, you know?

13226
07:01:48,630 --> 07:01:50,299
So no one's interested in

13227
07:01:50,299 --> 07:01:52,401
staying in the past. All of the

13228
07:01:52,401 --> 07:01:53,435
students want to be keeping up

13229
07:01:53,435 --> 07:01:55,700
with what's happening in the

13230
07:01:55,700 --> 07:01:56,305
future. And it's our job to

13231
07:01:56,305 --> 07:01:57,573
keep them safe while we're

13232
07:01:57,573 --> 07:01:59,609
making sure that they're able

13233
07:01:59,609 --> 07:02:02,811
to compete and they're up to

13234
07:02:02,811 --> 07:02:05,648
date with the technology. So,

13235
07:02:05,648 --> 07:02:07,583
you know, I think we've

13236
07:02:07,583 --> 07:02:09,385
basically kind of I think we've

13237
07:02:09,385 --> 07:02:11,187
asked a lot of these questions.

13238
07:02:11,187 --> 07:02:14,757
You know, I, I had talked to

13239
07:02:14,757 --> 07:02:17,159
Doctor Cohn about kind of the,

13240
07:02:17,159 --> 07:02:18,728
the plan in terms of screen

13241
07:02:18,728 --> 07:02:21,164
time for like how we were going

13242
07:02:21,164 --> 07:02:22,398
to reduce screen time for

13243
07:02:22,398 --> 07:02:23,465
students. And now we have the

13244
07:02:23,465 --> 07:02:25,200
directive that we're going to

13245
07:02:25,200 --> 07:02:26,402
look into that until second

13246
07:02:26,402 --> 07:02:28,404
grade. I think yours was more

13247
07:02:28,404 --> 07:02:30,840
first grade, but we can we'll

13248
07:02:30,840 --> 07:02:32,709
we'll wait for that to come

13249
07:02:32,709 --> 07:02:35,278
back. But I think, you know, so

13250
07:02:35,278 --> 07:02:36,379
the communication part is so

13251
07:02:36,379 --> 07:02:37,747
important with the parents. I

13252
07:02:37,747 --> 07:02:38,681
think the more that they

13253
07:02:38,681 --> 07:02:40,820
understand what's happening,

13254
07:02:40,820 --> 07:02:42,418
the less they're going to be

13255
07:02:42,418 --> 07:02:43,853
afraid. And that's really

13256
07:02:43,853 --> 07:02:45,540
probably our biggest job

13257
07:02:45,540 --> 07:02:47,890
because everyone's afraid of

13258
07:02:47,890 --> 07:02:49,580
the things that they don't know.

13259
07:02:49,580 --> 07:02:50,659
So as long as they know exactly

13260
07:02:50,659 --> 07:02:51,761
what is happening and we're not

13261
07:02:51,761 --> 07:02:53,496
sneaking anything in on them.

13262
07:02:53,496 --> 07:02:55,230
And, you know, like if you, if

13263
07:02:55,230 --> 07:02:57,199
we're committed to advising

13264
07:02:57,199 --> 07:02:58,233
them when we add any kind of

13265
07:02:58,233 --> 07:03:00,203
programs or whatever, then

13266
07:03:00,203 --> 07:03:03,600
they're going to then then we

13267
07:03:03,600 --> 07:03:05,730
will have the parents with us.

13268
07:03:05,730 --> 07:03:06,909
And that's very important. And

13269
07:03:06,909 --> 07:03:08,778
then another part of it. And I,

13270
07:03:08,778 --> 07:03:11,915
you know, I come here as a

13271
07:03:11,915 --> 07:03:13,382
parent of three teenagers and a

13272
07:03:13,382 --> 07:03:15,118
teenager, so I'm in the thick

13273
07:03:15,118 --> 07:03:16,285
of it with all of the

13274
07:03:16,285 --> 07:03:17,520
technology and the things that

13275
07:03:17,520 --> 07:03:19,255
you can control and the things

13276
07:03:19,255 --> 07:03:20,890
that you can't control. And

13277
07:03:20,890 --> 07:03:23,890
I've had many experiences with

13278
07:03:24,894 --> 07:03:25,996
this. But we have a

13279
07:03:25,996 --> 07:03:27,397
responsibility as a school, but

13280
07:03:27,397 --> 07:03:29,332
there's also a responsibility

13281
07:03:29,332 --> 07:03:30,700
of parents. And, and I don't

13282
07:03:30,700 --> 07:03:32,402
know how we communicate that,

13283
07:03:32,402 --> 07:03:33,403
but people have to take

13284
07:03:33,403 --> 07:03:35,305
responsibility. You know, we're

13285
07:03:35,305 --> 07:03:36,739
talking about screen time. We

13286
07:03:36,739 --> 07:03:40,339
can control the screen time in

13287
07:03:42,312 --> 07:03:43,779
the schools. That's a parental.

13288
07:03:43,779 --> 07:03:46,149
And it's a it's a challenge. I

13289
07:03:46,149 --> 07:03:48,285
mean, it's a, it's a constant

13290
07:03:48,285 --> 07:03:49,386
daily battle to, to try to

13291
07:03:49,386 --> 07:03:50,553
overcome that and figure out

13292
07:03:50,553 --> 07:03:52,456
how you're going to do that.

13293
07:03:52,456 --> 07:03:55,859
But, you know, as much as we

13294
07:03:55,859 --> 07:03:57,940
can help parents or guide them

13295
07:03:57,940 --> 07:03:58,495
with that too. And again, that

13296
07:03:58,495 --> 07:04:00,964
comes to the reassurance piece.

13297
07:04:00,964 --> 07:04:02,933
So I think if we are tackling

13298
07:04:02,933 --> 07:04:04,670
that, I think we're going to be

13299
07:04:04,670 --> 07:04:07,670
moving forward in the right

13300
07:04:08,172 --> 07:04:09,907
direction. So I, I think that

13301
07:04:09,907 --> 07:04:11,775
we've made a lot of progress

13302
07:04:11,775 --> 07:04:13,477
and commend your efforts and

13303
07:04:13,477 --> 07:04:15,612
look forward to the next

13304
07:04:15,612 --> 07:04:17,414
iteration of it. Thank you.

13305
07:04:17,414 --> 07:04:19,683
>> Thank you, MISS Bulman.

13306
07:04:19,683 --> 07:04:22,886
Before I go to Mikhail and Lily,

13307
07:04:22,886 --> 07:04:24,621
I just wanted to first see if

13308
07:04:24,621 --> 07:04:26,560
there was any objection, since

13309
07:04:26,560 --> 07:04:27,858
our vice chair is not here and

13310
07:04:27,858 --> 07:04:30,270
our former chair is not here,

13311
07:04:30,270 --> 07:04:31,528
is there any objection to me

13312
07:04:31,528 --> 07:04:34,528
designating DR. Zeman as vice

13313
07:04:34,565 --> 07:04:36,867
chair? Seeing none. DR. Zeman

13314
07:04:36,867 --> 07:04:38,702
you are now Vice Chair. And

13315
07:04:38,702 --> 07:04:40,870
then, just so the public is

13316
07:04:40,870 --> 07:04:42,710
aware with board consensus,

13317
07:04:42,710 --> 07:04:43,941
when we are done with this

13318
07:04:43,941 --> 07:04:46,610
workshop, I would like to go to

13319
07:04:46,610 --> 07:04:47,711
item number six, which is the

13320
07:04:47,711 --> 07:04:49,246
comprehensive discussion on

13321
07:04:49,246 --> 07:04:51,615
select locations, as there are

13322
07:04:51,615 --> 07:04:54,184
several public speakers in the

13323
07:04:54,184 --> 07:04:55,786
in the overflow room waiting to

13324
07:04:55,786 --> 07:04:56,920
speak on that. Is there any

13325
07:04:56,920 --> 07:04:58,455
objection to going to item

13326
07:04:58,455 --> 07:05:01,455
number six after this workshop?

13327
07:05:02,590 --> 07:05:03,694
>> Chair? Are we. Are we going

13328
07:05:03,694 --> 07:05:05,329
to do following items after

13329
07:05:05,329 --> 07:05:07,298
that, or are we going to.

13330
07:05:07,298 --> 07:05:09,199
>> That was the plan. Unless

13331
07:05:09,199 --> 07:05:10,300
the board would like to do

13332
07:05:10,300 --> 07:05:12,135
something else.

13333
07:05:12,135 --> 07:05:13,637
>> What items need to be

13334
07:05:13,637 --> 07:05:13,938
completed today?

13335
07:05:13,938 --> 07:05:15,739
>> Benefits.

13336
07:05:15,739 --> 07:05:17,441
>> Mail benefits and the

13337
07:05:17,441 --> 07:05:19,441
capital program. Considering

13338
07:05:19,710 --> 07:05:22,110
we're already running about

13339
07:05:22,246 --> 07:05:24,480
four hours behind schedule, is

13340
07:05:24,480 --> 07:05:26,183
there a possibility of doing

13341
07:05:26,183 --> 07:05:28,318
item six then going to the meal

13342
07:05:28,318 --> 07:05:31,918
debt and then moving the other

13343
07:05:32,323 --> 07:05:34,358
items to the next workshop?

13344
07:05:34,358 --> 07:05:35,593
>> So I will I don't want to

13345
07:05:35,593 --> 07:05:36,627
get into this whole discussion,

13346
07:05:36,627 --> 07:05:39,564
but there are the next workshop

13347
07:05:39,564 --> 07:05:41,980
is, is very, very packed. So I

13348
07:05:41,980 --> 07:05:42,767
guess, can we just agree that

13349
07:05:42,767 --> 07:05:45,235
we'll go to item six and then

13350
07:05:45,235 --> 07:05:47,171
and then decide what we want to

13351
07:05:47,171 --> 07:05:48,406
do with the rest of the item.

13352
07:05:48,406 --> 07:05:50,674
>> See what time we get done

13353
07:05:50,674 --> 07:05:52,674
with number six.

13354
07:05:52,777 --> 07:05:53,911
>> I mean, we can go, we can go

13355
07:05:53,911 --> 07:05:56,414
down this road right now. I'll

13356
07:05:56,414 --> 07:05:59,414
read you the workshop schedule

13357
07:06:01,118 --> 07:06:02,286
for the next workshop, which is

13358
07:06:02,286 --> 07:06:05,256
JULY 21st. We have advisory

13359
07:06:05,256 --> 07:06:07,256
committee reports redefining

13360
07:06:07,959 --> 07:06:10,161
our schools. 2627 o. S

13361
07:06:10,161 --> 07:06:12,161
Quarterly report, annual

13362
07:06:12,396 --> 07:06:14,465
compliance visit report. Casey,

13363
07:06:14,465 --> 07:06:16,465
write operations, multi-year

13364
07:06:17,100 --> 07:06:18,369
staffing alignment plan, erp

13365
07:06:18,369 --> 07:06:20,205
transformation project, rural

13366
07:06:20,205 --> 07:06:21,306
development, ai, cybersecurity,

13367
07:06:21,306 --> 07:06:23,706
acceptable use, and other

13368
07:06:24,642 --> 07:06:26,210
relevant policies. So, I mean,

13369
07:06:26,210 --> 07:06:27,412
I was already contemplating

13370
07:06:27,412 --> 07:06:29,447
like things we would have to

13371
07:06:29,447 --> 07:06:32,417
get, get rid of on or push back

13372
07:06:32,417 --> 07:06:34,853
on the next workshop in JULY.

13373
07:06:34,853 --> 07:06:37,155
But I think, you know, for sure,

13374
07:06:37,155 --> 07:06:38,589
we need to go to item. Well, my,

13375
07:06:38,589 --> 07:06:40,910
my proposal is that we go to

13376
07:06:40,910 --> 07:06:41,792
item six after this.

13377
07:06:41,792 --> 07:06:42,893
>> Let's go. Okay. Great idea

13378
07:06:42,893 --> 07:06:44,863
chair.

13379
07:06:44,863 --> 07:06:47,863
>> All right, go ahead, Michael

13380
07:06:47,933 --> 07:06:49,267
and Lily.

13381
07:06:49,267 --> 07:06:50,268
>> All right. I know everyone's

13382
07:06:50,268 --> 07:06:52,103
kind of falling asleep, so

13383
07:06:52,103 --> 07:06:53,972
we're going to try and be quick

13384
07:06:53,972 --> 07:06:55,730
and concise and all of that.

13385
07:06:55,730 --> 07:06:58,730
Everyone wake up, move around,

13386
07:06:58,176 --> 07:06:59,444
get excited. Okay, so first,

13387
07:06:59,444 --> 07:07:00,678
I'm not exactly sure who to

13388
07:07:00,678 --> 07:07:02,414
direct this question to, so I'm

13389
07:07:02,414 --> 07:07:04,382
just going to kind of put it

13390
07:07:04,382 --> 07:07:05,516
out there and see who can give

13391
07:07:05,516 --> 07:07:07,285
me an answer. With copilot.

13392
07:07:07,285 --> 07:07:08,520
Would the district be able to

13393
07:07:08,520 --> 07:07:09,654
control restrictions like

13394
07:07:09,654 --> 07:07:11,689
safety restrictions, and also

13395
07:07:11,689 --> 07:07:15,289
be able to have the teachers

13396
07:07:15,327 --> 07:07:18,229
read the students chats with

13397
07:07:18,229 --> 07:07:20,229
the chat bot?

13398
07:07:21,433 --> 07:07:22,434
>> With copilot? It logs the

13399
07:07:22,434 --> 07:07:24,434
conversation so they're

13400
07:07:24,703 --> 07:07:26,605
available to be viewed

13401
07:07:26,605 --> 07:07:27,906
technically in the security

13402
07:07:27,906 --> 07:07:30,742
system, which is called purview

13403
07:07:30,742 --> 07:07:33,311
from Microsoft. But because it

13404
07:07:33,311 --> 07:07:35,130
lacks the flagging of those

13405
07:07:35,130 --> 07:07:36,615
interactions is inappropriate.

13406
07:07:36,615 --> 07:07:39,840
And because there's no real

13407
07:07:39,840 --> 07:07:40,219
time detection or moderation,

13408
07:07:40,219 --> 07:07:43,210
the decision to district made

13409
07:07:43,210 --> 07:07:44,823
is not to pursue using copilot

13410
07:07:44,823 --> 07:07:48,259
for all students. So far, it's

13411
07:07:48,259 --> 07:07:50,128
only for those 371 students

13412
07:07:50,128 --> 07:07:52,764
that are in the ai academies

13413
07:07:52,764 --> 07:07:55,267
because of the risk imposed of

13414
07:07:55,267 --> 07:07:56,935
having those that moderation

13415
07:07:56,935 --> 07:07:59,571
and detection not happening in

13416
07:07:59,571 --> 07:08:00,739
real time.

13417
07:08:00,739 --> 07:08:03,509
>> Okay, awesome. Thank you for

13418
07:08:03,509 --> 07:08:05,276
that. And then also a lot of

13419
07:08:05,276 --> 07:08:07,112
what I was going to ask about

13420
07:08:07,112 --> 07:08:08,614
went over already. I did want

13421
07:08:08,614 --> 07:08:12,214
to comment on what was said

13422
07:08:12,885 --> 07:08:14,190
about how every time new

13423
07:08:14,190 --> 07:08:15,788
electronics, sorry, I'm a bit

13424
07:08:15,788 --> 07:08:17,222
tired now, new electronics come

13425
07:08:17,222 --> 07:08:19,124
out, we say they're going to be

13426
07:08:19,124 --> 07:08:20,459
great and then they fall kind

13427
07:08:20,459 --> 07:08:21,493
of flat. On expectations. The

13428
07:08:21,493 --> 07:08:23,195
main point that was brought up

13429
07:08:23,195 --> 07:08:24,463
was social media, how everyone

13430
07:08:24,463 --> 07:08:26,332
said it was going to be great

13431
07:08:26,332 --> 07:08:27,366
and you would meet people and

13432
07:08:27,366 --> 07:08:30,366
it's awful. Honestly, I think

13433
07:08:31,904 --> 07:08:33,171
that media and electronics and

13434
07:08:33,171 --> 07:08:36,308
all of that are what you make

13435
07:08:36,308 --> 07:08:37,709
of it. I know myself personally,

13436
07:08:37,709 --> 07:08:38,610
yes, I scroll on Instagram

13437
07:08:38,610 --> 07:08:41,130
sometimes just to watch reels,

13438
07:08:41,130 --> 07:08:43,149
but I also have connected with

13439
07:08:43,149 --> 07:08:44,820
1200 people on my Instagram. A

13440
07:08:44,820 --> 07:08:45,284
majority of my Instagram

13441
07:08:45,284 --> 07:08:46,419
followers are not my friends,

13442
07:08:46,419 --> 07:08:48,220
it's people I've networked with

13443
07:08:48,220 --> 07:08:49,622
over time. And whenever I have

13444
07:08:49,622 --> 07:08:51,223
questions or I need a speaker

13445
07:08:51,223 --> 07:08:52,858
for something, or I kind of

13446
07:08:52,858 --> 07:08:54,393
need someone to help me out,

13447
07:08:54,393 --> 07:08:56,729
anything like that, I my go to

13448
07:08:56,729 --> 07:08:57,730
is Instagram. It's a quick way

13449
07:08:57,730 --> 07:08:58,797
to message someone because

13450
07:08:58,797 --> 07:08:59,832
people are weird about their

13451
07:08:59,832 --> 07:09:01,734
phone numbers today. I don't

13452
07:09:01,734 --> 07:09:02,668
know why, but I'll go on

13453
07:09:02,668 --> 07:09:03,769
Instagram and it's someone's

13454
07:09:03,769 --> 07:09:05,671
entire portfolio when you think

13455
07:09:05,671 --> 07:09:06,706
about it, like you go to my

13456
07:09:06,706 --> 07:09:07,907
professional Instagram, I have

13457
07:09:07,907 --> 07:09:09,674
all the events I've taken part

13458
07:09:09,674 --> 07:09:10,910
of in probably the past two

13459
07:09:10,910 --> 07:09:11,911
years on there. You know, it's

13460
07:09:11,911 --> 07:09:12,912
a professional portfolio

13461
07:09:12,912 --> 07:09:14,880
because that's what I make it

13462
07:09:14,880 --> 07:09:16,749
to be. That's how I choose to

13463
07:09:16,749 --> 07:09:18,840
use it. So if other people are

13464
07:09:18,840 --> 07:09:19,819
choosing to use it differently,

13465
07:09:19,819 --> 07:09:21,320
that's up to them. But I don't

13466
07:09:21,320 --> 07:09:22,789
want to make any form of

13467
07:09:22,789 --> 07:09:23,923
technology out to just be evil,

13468
07:09:23,923 --> 07:09:25,757
and it doesn't do what it's

13469
07:09:25,757 --> 07:09:27,920
supposed to, because it's how

13470
07:09:27,920 --> 07:09:28,961
you use it. And following up

13471
07:09:28,961 --> 07:09:31,596
with that ai is the exact same

13472
07:09:31,596 --> 07:09:33,499
way. So I kind of thought of a

13473
07:09:33,499 --> 07:09:35,367
good example to say why I think

13474
07:09:35,367 --> 07:09:36,569
ai is so important, because I

13475
07:09:36,569 --> 07:09:38,404
also don't want to just say, oh,

13476
07:09:38,404 --> 07:09:39,505
you know, we should just give

13477
07:09:39,505 --> 07:09:40,640
students ai and let them do

13478
07:09:40,640 --> 07:09:42,408
whatever, because that's not

13479
07:09:42,408 --> 07:09:44,310
what it is. There needs to be

13480
07:09:44,310 --> 07:09:45,478
safety on there. But the main

13481
07:09:45,478 --> 07:09:47,346
thing that I'm arguing for is

13482
07:09:47,346 --> 07:09:49,314
we need to teach students how

13483
07:09:49,314 --> 07:09:50,583
to use it, right? So we have a

13484
07:09:50,583 --> 07:09:52,318
lot of parents in the room, or

13485
07:09:52,318 --> 07:09:54,320
we did before everyone left,

13486
07:09:54,320 --> 07:09:55,554
but we had a lot of parents in

13487
07:09:55,554 --> 07:09:56,656
the room who were arguing about

13488
07:09:56,656 --> 07:09:58,357
the safety for their children.

13489
07:09:58,357 --> 07:09:59,559
Correct. And we still have

13490
07:09:59,559 --> 07:10:01,461
quite a few parents in the room.

13491
07:10:01,461 --> 07:10:03,295
So I'm hoping that all of you

13492
07:10:03,295 --> 07:10:04,497
either plan on teaching or have

13493
07:10:04,497 --> 07:10:05,597
taught your kids how to cook,

13494
07:10:05,597 --> 07:10:07,300
right? Even if it's something

13495
07:10:07,300 --> 07:10:08,335
super simple. And when you're

13496
07:10:08,335 --> 07:10:09,535
cooking, sometimes you use a

13497
07:10:09,535 --> 07:10:11,504
kitchen knife. If you just give

13498
07:10:11,504 --> 07:10:13,306
your kid a knife and you don't

13499
07:10:13,306 --> 07:10:14,440
explain to them that they can

13500
07:10:14,440 --> 07:10:16,343
get hurt with that, and you

13501
07:10:16,343 --> 07:10:17,410
don't show them hohow properly

13502
07:10:17,410 --> 07:10:19,379
use e itthey're probobly going

13503
07:10:19,379 --> 07:10:20,647
totoet cut few t tes,, righ

13504
07:10:20,647 --> 07:10:22,415
Ifouou just say, hey, there uu

13505
07:10:22,415 --> 07:10:24,350
go take that, figure out what

13506
07:10:24,350 --> 07:10:25,418
to do. And that's not what we

13507
07:10:25,418 --> 07:10:26,519
should be doing with ai.

13508
07:10:26,519 --> 07:10:27,587
Instead, when you're teaching

13509
07:10:27,587 --> 07:10:29,456
your kid how to cook, first,

13510
07:10:29,456 --> 07:10:30,624
you explain, okay, this is the

13511
07:10:30,624 --> 07:10:32,626
knife. You got to be careful.

13512
07:10:32,626 --> 07:10:34,394
If you put it on you the wrong

13513
07:10:34,394 --> 07:10:35,594
way, you're going to get cut

13514
07:10:35,594 --> 07:10:37,497
and it's going to bleed and

13515
07:10:37,497 --> 07:10:39,432
it's going to hurt. This is how

13516
07:10:39,432 --> 07:10:41,467
you do it. I remember when my

13517
07:10:41,467 --> 07:10:42,536
mom taught me how to cut. I was

13518
07:10:42,536 --> 07:10:44,371
sitting there, guys, I could

13519
07:10:44,371 --> 07:10:45,538
not figure it out for an hour.

13520
07:10:45,538 --> 07:10:47,340
I'm a pro now at cutting my

13521
07:10:47,340 --> 07:10:48,542
apples, don't worry. But it did

13522
07:10:48,542 --> 07:10:49,609
take me quite a few times and I

13523
07:10:49,609 --> 07:10:50,110
did get cut a few times. But

13524
07:10:50,110 --> 07:10:50,710
because my mom walked me

13525
07:10:50,710 --> 07:10:51,311
through it, now I can cook on

13526
07:10:51,311 --> 07:10:51,845
my own and I can cut things on

13527
07:10:51,845 --> 07:10:52,479
my own. And ai, it sounds

13528
07:10:52,479 --> 07:10:53,113
stupid, but ai is the same way.

13529
07:10:53,113 --> 07:10:53,747
If we show kids how to use it

13530
07:10:53,747 --> 07:10:54,380
properly, we're going to avoid

13531
07:10:54,380 --> 07:10:55,480
so many scenarios of kids not

13532
07:10:55,480 --> 07:10:56,416
knowing how to use ai and doing

13533
07:10:56,416 --> 07:10:58,218
stupid things with it, it's

13534
07:10:58,218 --> 07:10:59,453
better to teach them.

13535
07:10:59,453 --> 07:11:00,486
>> Thanks so much. And Mikhail,

13536
07:11:00,486 --> 07:11:01,521
we're at the point of the

13537
07:11:01,521 --> 07:11:03,489
meeting where we're trying to

13538
07:11:03,489 --> 07:11:04,557
wrap this up and land the plane.

13539
07:11:04,557 --> 07:11:05,559
So if you could be succinct,

13540
07:11:05,559 --> 07:11:07,294
I'd appreciate it.

13541
07:11:07,294 --> 07:11:09,729
>> Very, very. Yes. So I only

13542
07:11:09,729 --> 07:11:11,464
have one question and it really

13543
07:11:11,464 --> 07:11:13,600
follows back off what MISS

13544
07:11:13,600 --> 07:11:16,502
Leonardi said about a written

13545
07:11:16,502 --> 07:11:17,604
plan. Is there a timeline of

13546
07:11:17,604 --> 07:11:20,174
exposure? And what I mean by

13547
07:11:20,174 --> 07:11:21,575
that is, does a elementary

13548
07:11:21,575 --> 07:11:23,430
student have the same level of

13549
07:11:23,430 --> 07:11:26,430
access that a high school

13550
07:11:26,246 --> 07:11:28,449
student has to the app? And the

13551
07:11:28,449 --> 07:11:30,617
reason I bring this up is

13552
07:11:30,617 --> 07:11:32,190
because elementary student MAY

13553
07:11:32,190 --> 07:11:34,354
not be as developed as a high

13554
07:11:34,354 --> 07:11:35,956
school student. So them having

13555
07:11:35,956 --> 07:11:38,792
the same exact access and the

13556
07:11:38,792 --> 07:11:42,392
same exact, you know, tools of

13557
07:11:42,463 --> 07:11:43,630
exposure MAY be a problem. And

13558
07:11:43,630 --> 07:11:44,431
that comes in with the written

13559
07:11:44,431 --> 07:11:44,665
plan as well.

13560
07:11:44,665 --> 07:11:46,400
>> Yeah.

13561
07:11:46,400 --> 07:11:48,201
>> So great question, Kyle. And

13562
07:11:48,201 --> 07:11:49,803
so no, they will not. Part of

13563
07:11:49,803 --> 07:11:51,505
the phased in process is for

13564
07:11:51,505 --> 07:11:54,308
the elementary level that the

13565
07:11:54,308 --> 07:11:55,776
teachers will have access to it

13566
07:11:55,776 --> 07:11:57,210
only. And at the secondary

13567
07:11:57,210 --> 07:11:59,713
level, our approach is to give

13568
07:11:59,713 --> 07:12:01,949
access to students and teachers.

13569
07:12:01,949 --> 07:12:02,983
But once the teachers get the

13570
07:12:02,983 --> 07:12:04,983
certification and the

13571
07:12:05,819 --> 07:12:07,421
credentials to then be able to

13572
07:12:07,421 --> 07:12:09,560
give access to students within

13573
07:12:09,560 --> 07:12:09,924
their classrooms, so there is a

13574
07:12:09,924 --> 07:12:10,925
phased in approach.

13575
07:12:10,925 --> 07:12:12,925
>> Thank you doctor.

13576
07:12:13,428 --> 07:12:15,428
>> Thank you. Yes.

13577
07:12:16,297 --> 07:12:17,797
>> School board member Cervera.

13578
07:12:17,797 --> 07:12:21,997
I could just say Adam then. Hey,

13579
07:12:22,403 --> 07:12:23,603
Adam. Your turn. Yeah.

13580
07:12:23,603 --> 07:12:26,740
>> Real quick I just want to

13581
07:12:26,740 --> 07:12:27,841
make sure that that I'm clear.

13582
07:12:27,841 --> 07:12:30,344
Despite how MISS Thompson does

13583
07:12:30,344 --> 07:12:32,479
her town halls in her district.

13584
07:12:32,479 --> 07:12:35,383
I am looking for district help

13585
07:12:35,383 --> 07:12:36,817
in what I suggested. I do

13586
07:12:36,817 --> 07:12:38,219
plenty of town halls myself

13587
07:12:38,219 --> 07:12:39,487
without district help. But I

13588
07:12:39,487 --> 07:12:40,621
also am smart enough to realize

13589
07:12:40,621 --> 07:12:42,356
when there are subject matters

13590
07:12:42,356 --> 07:12:45,426
that I don't have a great grasp

13591
07:12:45,426 --> 07:12:47,528
on. Like ai, I will lean on the

13592
07:12:47,528 --> 07:12:48,529
district. So I'm not sure what

13593
07:12:48,529 --> 07:12:49,596
my colleague was talking about

13594
07:12:49,596 --> 07:12:50,665
about wanting to do this

13595
07:12:50,665 --> 07:12:52,501
herself. If she wants to do one

13596
07:12:52,501 --> 07:12:53,701
herself in her district, that's

13597
07:12:53,701 --> 07:12:54,869
fine. But as far as district

13598
07:12:54,869 --> 07:12:57,400
six is concerned, when we

13599
07:12:57,400 --> 07:12:58,720
ultimately do this, I do expect

13600
07:12:58,720 --> 07:12:59,507
assistance from you, Doctor

13601
07:12:59,507 --> 07:13:01,209
Cohen, and your team. When we

13602
07:13:01,209 --> 07:13:02,176
go out and speak to our

13603
07:13:02,176 --> 07:13:03,377
community members, you don't

13604
07:13:03,377 --> 07:13:04,545
need to comment. I just want to

13605
07:13:04,545 --> 07:13:05,947
make sure that my instruction

13606
07:13:05,947 --> 07:13:07,382
was still clear, despite

13607
07:13:07,382 --> 07:13:08,449
whatever MISS Thompson's

13608
07:13:08,449 --> 07:13:10,317
thinking was about how she does

13609
07:13:10,317 --> 07:13:10,818
things in her district.

13610
07:13:10,818 --> 07:13:12,319
>> Thank you.

13611
07:13:12,319 --> 07:13:13,421
>> Thank you, MR. Sparrow. And

13612
07:13:13,421 --> 07:13:14,955
thank you, Doctor Cohen. This

13613
07:13:14,955 --> 07:13:16,757
has been a long session. I

13614
07:13:16,757 --> 07:13:17,826
don't want anybody that took

13615
07:13:17,826 --> 07:13:19,394
all the work to put this

13616
07:13:19,394 --> 07:13:21,696
together, to think that this

13617
07:13:21,696 --> 07:13:22,796
was possible to do in a short

13618
07:13:22,796 --> 07:13:24,699
period of time. Maybe we MISS

13619
07:13:24,699 --> 07:13:25,834
Planned a little bit, but a lot

13620
07:13:25,834 --> 07:13:26,935
of great content, a lot of

13621
07:13:26,935 --> 07:13:28,235
excellent work on the point.

13622
07:13:28,235 --> 07:13:29,804
And I know Doctor Hepburn, you

13623
07:13:29,804 --> 07:13:30,905
have some follow ups that we'll

13624
07:13:30,905 --> 07:13:31,973
get back to and then we'll

13625
07:13:31,973 --> 07:13:33,740
we'll readdress this the next

13626
07:13:33,740 --> 07:13:34,943
meeting. At this point we're

13627
07:13:34,943 --> 07:13:35,943
going to go to item number six.

13628
07:13:35,943 --> 07:13:37,746
So we're jumping a little bit

13629
07:13:37,746 --> 07:13:38,746
on the agenda to our next

13630
07:13:38,746 --> 07:13:39,880
meeting on repurposing options

13631
07:13:39,880 --> 07:13:42,149
with Doctor Wanza. Thank you.

13632
07:13:42,149 --> 07:13:45,149
And I've got five public

13633
07:13:50,925 --> 07:13:53,925
speakers. Beacon, can you load

13634
07:13:55,297 --> 07:13:57,697
the presentation, please? Now

13635
07:13:58,567 --> 07:13:59,935
we got it John.

13636
07:13:59,935 --> 07:14:02,137
>> We're on ten six right.

13637
07:14:02,137 --> 07:14:03,104
>> Yes, sir.

13638
07:14:03,104 --> 07:14:04,105
>> At the will.

13639
07:14:04,105 --> 07:14:05,807
>> Of the board.

13640
07:14:05,807 --> 07:14:07,809
>> Doctor Wanza is ready to go

13641
07:14:07,809 --> 07:14:10,809
straight to the decision point.

13642
07:14:20,822 --> 07:14:22,560
>> Yes. Okay.

13643
07:14:22,560 --> 07:14:22,957
>> Do you mind taking a two

13644
07:14:22,957 --> 07:14:23,191
minute recess, sir?

13645
07:14:23,191 --> 07:14:25,191
>> Nope.

13646
07:14:28,630 --> 07:14:30,463
>> No recess. We're ripping.

13647
07:14:42,811 --> 07:14:46,411
>> Not at all. No, no, no.

13648
07:14:58,927 --> 07:15:00,927
Right.

13649
07:15:02,300 --> 07:15:03,650
>> And, doctor Wanza, unless

13650
07:15:03,650 --> 07:15:06,650
the board objects. I believe

13651
07:15:06,201 --> 07:15:07,303
the chair okayed the decision

13652
07:15:07,303 --> 07:15:07,969
points. Yes, ma'am.

13653
07:15:07,969 --> 07:15:09,710
>> So if.

13654
07:15:09,710 --> 07:15:09,972
>> If I could, doctor.

13655
07:15:09,972 --> 07:15:11,730
>> Yes, sir.

13656
07:15:11,730 --> 07:15:12,374
>> What we'd love is a one

13657
07:15:12,374 --> 07:15:13,742
minute summary of the

13658
07:15:13,742 --> 07:15:14,543
presentation leading us to the

13659
07:15:14,543 --> 07:15:15,511
decision points. Then we're

13660
07:15:15,511 --> 07:15:17,511
ready to engage.

13661
07:15:17,646 --> 07:15:19,810
>> Okay. So good afternoon

13662
07:15:19,810 --> 07:15:21,550
everyone. Or. Yes, I'm Valerie

13663
07:15:21,550 --> 07:15:24,153
Wanza, the chief strategy and

13664
07:15:24,153 --> 07:15:25,554
innovation officer. And my

13665
07:15:25,554 --> 07:15:27,220
colleagues at the table with me

13666
07:15:27,220 --> 07:15:30,622
today are Mark Dorset, who is

13667
07:15:31,259 --> 07:15:32,528
the task assigned chief of of

13668
07:15:32,528 --> 07:15:34,562
operations, and that facilities

13669
07:15:34,562 --> 07:15:35,631
and operations. Sonia Cole is

13670
07:15:35,631 --> 07:15:37,466
the executive director of

13671
07:15:37,466 --> 07:15:38,800
capital Programs, and Kriss

13672
07:15:38,800 --> 07:15:40,603
Akabusi will be joining us

13673
07:15:40,603 --> 07:15:42,700
shortly. And he is the director

13674
07:15:42,700 --> 07:15:44,673
of facility planning and real

13675
07:15:44,673 --> 07:15:46,742
estate. So essentially, DR.

13676
07:15:46,742 --> 07:15:48,510
Zeman board members public. The

13677
07:15:48,510 --> 07:15:51,510
way that this presentation is

13678
07:15:51,780 --> 07:15:54,684
laid out is it is a. It is

13679
07:15:54,684 --> 07:15:57,840
intended for a comprehensive

13680
07:15:57,653 --> 07:15:59,550
conversation around some. The

13681
07:15:59,550 --> 07:16:00,389
usage of certain sites here in

13682
07:16:00,389 --> 07:16:01,756
the district. We know that

13683
07:16:01,756 --> 07:16:02,925
we've gone through redefining.

13684
07:16:02,925 --> 07:16:04,393
We know that some of the

13685
07:16:04,393 --> 07:16:06,495
schools properties are going to

13686
07:16:06,495 --> 07:16:09,650
be repurposed for other uses.

13687
07:16:09,650 --> 07:16:11,200
So this conversation actually

13688
07:16:11,200 --> 07:16:13,369
gives the board greater

13689
07:16:13,369 --> 07:16:15,769
information around. That also

13690
07:16:16,238 --> 07:16:17,774
provides for the board some

13691
07:16:17,774 --> 07:16:19,408
information and options around

13692
07:16:19,408 --> 07:16:22,440
one of our sites that we need

13693
07:16:22,440 --> 07:16:23,846
some direction today. That and

13694
07:16:23,846 --> 07:16:25,281
it's Margate Elementary School.

13695
07:16:25,281 --> 07:16:27,681
I'm sorry, Margate Middle

13696
07:16:27,750 --> 07:16:29,252
School, the current facility

13697
07:16:29,252 --> 07:16:31,540
conditions assessment, as well

13698
07:16:31,540 --> 07:16:32,789
as all of the financial

13699
07:16:32,789 --> 07:16:34,991
resources that it will take to

13700
07:16:34,991 --> 07:16:37,860
bring the school up to current

13701
07:16:37,860 --> 07:16:38,460
codes and standards. It is the

13702
07:16:38,460 --> 07:16:40,960
recommendation of staff, and

13703
07:16:40,960 --> 07:16:42,197
they will they will explain it

13704
07:16:42,197 --> 07:16:44,734
that we look at another option

13705
07:16:44,734 --> 07:16:47,202
for that campus. Then we need

13706
07:16:47,202 --> 07:16:50,106
some some direction from the

13707
07:16:50,106 --> 07:16:51,508
board, if you will, on two

13708
07:16:51,508 --> 07:16:54,770
parcels of land in particular,

13709
07:16:54,770 --> 07:16:55,211
there's one adjacent or on the

13710
07:16:55,211 --> 07:16:57,460
property of Deerfield Beach

13711
07:16:57,460 --> 07:16:59,182
Elementary School, as well as

13712
07:16:59,182 --> 07:17:00,583
the trail's end site up in

13713
07:17:00,583 --> 07:17:01,284
parkland. And so we need some

13714
07:17:01,284 --> 07:17:02,352
direction there. And then we

13715
07:17:02,352 --> 07:17:04,254
were just going to let the

13716
07:17:04,254 --> 07:17:05,288
board know what we intend to

13717
07:17:05,288 --> 07:17:07,223
bring in this Leonardi talked

13718
07:17:07,223 --> 07:17:08,591
about it for the next workshop

13719
07:17:08,591 --> 07:17:10,259
on JULY 1st to see if the board

13720
07:17:10,259 --> 07:17:12,620
wanted anything added to that.

13721
07:17:12,620 --> 07:17:14,300
So essentially that was that's

13722
07:17:14,300 --> 07:17:17,300
the crux of the presentation.

13723
07:17:17,133 --> 07:17:18,535
But the actual decision points

13724
07:17:18,535 --> 07:17:22,135
or direction that we need from

13725
07:17:22,539 --> 07:17:26,139
the board. They are on slide

13726
07:17:26,442 --> 07:17:28,842
number 37 of the presentation.

13727
07:17:29,713 --> 07:17:31,748
We do have representation from

13728
07:17:31,748 --> 07:17:32,982
the Sistrunk rising project.

13729
07:17:32,982 --> 07:17:35,919
They are here because we know

13730
07:17:35,919 --> 07:17:38,421
that that is an added I'm sorry,

13731
07:17:38,421 --> 07:17:39,789
that is an attachment to the

13732
07:17:39,789 --> 07:17:41,224
presentation. And that is

13733
07:17:41,224 --> 07:17:43,326
specifically around the North

13734
07:17:43,326 --> 07:17:45,528
Fork Elementary school site.

13735
07:17:45,528 --> 07:17:46,997
And then we also know that we

13736
07:17:46,997 --> 07:17:48,365
have representatives from

13737
07:17:48,365 --> 07:17:50,600
Broward Health, and they are

13738
07:17:50,600 --> 07:17:52,736
here as it relates specifically

13739
07:17:52,736 --> 07:17:55,838
to the trail's end site up in

13740
07:17:55,838 --> 07:17:57,474
parkland. So I'll start with

13741
07:17:57,474 --> 07:17:59,909
the decision point for the

13742
07:17:59,909 --> 07:18:02,145
North Fork Elementary site. As

13743
07:18:02,145 --> 07:18:03,647
we know, back on MAY 12th, the

13744
07:18:03,647 --> 07:18:05,150
board did see some proposals

13745
07:18:05,150 --> 07:18:07,484
from the city of Fort

13746
07:18:07,484 --> 07:18:08,918
Lauderdale. I'm sorry for

13747
07:18:08,918 --> 07:18:10,687
that's the next one. Seagull.

13748
07:18:10,687 --> 07:18:12,222
But when it comes to North Fork,

13749
07:18:12,222 --> 07:18:13,990
which is in the city of Fort

13750
07:18:13,990 --> 07:18:15,391
Lauderdale, we had a proposal

13751
07:18:15,391 --> 07:18:17,260
from Sistrunk rising their

13752
07:18:17,260 --> 07:18:18,761
initial proposal. They have

13753
07:18:18,761 --> 07:18:21,761
given a revised proposal that

13754
07:18:22,266 --> 07:18:24,100
is in greater detail with some

13755
07:18:24,100 --> 07:18:25,802
some actual figures and data

13756
07:18:25,802 --> 07:18:27,671
attached to it. They are here,

13757
07:18:27,671 --> 07:18:29,439
or they should be parking to

13758
07:18:29,439 --> 07:18:32,710
come into the board room. So we

13759
07:18:32,710 --> 07:18:35,579
need some direction around that

13760
07:18:35,579 --> 07:18:37,140
site. J a world did express

13761
07:18:37,140 --> 07:18:39,950
interest, but they have told us

13762
07:18:39,950 --> 07:18:41,718
that, you know, the leasing

13763
07:18:41,718 --> 07:18:43,921
land at market rate present a

13764
07:18:43,921 --> 07:18:45,355
challenge for them. So they

13765
07:18:45,355 --> 07:18:47,791
have not given us anything

13766
07:18:47,791 --> 07:18:50,610
further to consider. However,

13767
07:18:50,610 --> 07:18:52,929
Sistrunk Rising did. And so the

13768
07:18:52,929 --> 07:18:54,298
board has that presentation. If

13769
07:18:54,298 --> 07:18:55,332
they need any further

13770
07:18:55,332 --> 07:18:56,233
information, their

13771
07:18:56,233 --> 07:18:58,636
representatives are here. So we

13772
07:18:58,636 --> 07:19:00,404
do need direction around if we

13773
07:19:00,404 --> 07:19:01,872
are going to go forward and

13774
07:19:01,872 --> 07:19:03,641
actually get to a conversation

13775
07:19:03,641 --> 07:19:04,975
around a ground lease and then

13776
07:19:04,975 --> 07:19:06,810
bring that back, obviously, to

13777
07:19:06,810 --> 07:19:07,812
the board for the board to give

13778
07:19:07,812 --> 07:19:08,879
us greater direction. And then

13779
07:19:08,879 --> 07:19:09,914
the second piece would be

13780
07:19:09,914 --> 07:19:12,183
around the Seagull alternative

13781
07:19:12,183 --> 07:19:13,117
high school site. The city of

13782
07:19:13,117 --> 07:19:14,452
Fort Lauderdale has withdrawn

13783
07:19:14,452 --> 07:19:15,886
its interest. And so we have

13784
07:19:15,886 --> 07:19:19,486
three options for the board to

13785
07:19:19,824 --> 07:19:22,326
consider there. One would be to

13786
07:19:22,326 --> 07:19:23,560
our own Broward Schools. Police

13787
07:19:23,560 --> 07:19:25,596
Safety and Security Division

13788
07:19:25,596 --> 07:19:27,996
are interested in perhaps

13789
07:19:28,499 --> 07:19:30,334
creating their own public

13790
07:19:30,334 --> 07:19:31,736
safety complex training complex,

13791
07:19:31,736 --> 07:19:33,504
where it could be a revenue,

13792
07:19:33,504 --> 07:19:35,504
revenue generating opportunity

13793
07:19:36,700 --> 07:19:37,808
for the district. So that's one

13794
07:19:37,808 --> 07:19:41,408
option. The second one would be

13795
07:19:41,412 --> 07:19:42,813
to actually utilize it for

13796
07:19:42,813 --> 07:19:44,348
additional administrative space

13797
07:19:44,348 --> 07:19:46,483
capacity, depending on what we

13798
07:19:46,483 --> 07:19:48,252
do in this building. And then

13799
07:19:48,252 --> 07:19:50,200
lastly, it could be once the

13800
07:19:50,200 --> 07:19:51,422
policies and procedures are

13801
07:19:51,422 --> 07:19:52,457
developed. And I know our

13802
07:19:52,457 --> 07:19:53,691
general counsel is moving us

13803
07:19:53,691 --> 07:19:55,493
through that swiftly around

13804
07:19:55,493 --> 07:19:57,161
looking at potentially a p3

13805
07:19:57,161 --> 07:19:58,396
opportunity for that site. So

13806
07:19:58,396 --> 07:20:01,232
we would need some direction on

13807
07:20:01,232 --> 07:20:02,634
if we would look to allow our

13808
07:20:02,634 --> 07:20:04,135
own safety and security

13809
07:20:04,135 --> 07:20:05,469
division to build out a

13810
07:20:05,469 --> 07:20:07,739
district owned, managed and

13811
07:20:07,739 --> 07:20:09,206
operated public safety training

13812
07:20:09,206 --> 07:20:10,608
complex that we could then

13813
07:20:10,608 --> 07:20:11,676
utilize as a revenue generation

13814
07:20:11,676 --> 07:20:14,545
source, because we would have

13815
07:20:14,545 --> 07:20:16,140
other agencies pay to utilize

13816
07:20:16,140 --> 07:20:18,810
and take training. So that's

13817
07:20:18,810 --> 07:20:19,217
the options there. So I can

13818
07:20:19,217 --> 07:20:20,451
probably pause on if you want

13819
07:20:20,451 --> 07:20:22,186
to do those two, and then we'll

13820
07:20:22,186 --> 07:20:23,388
do the next two decision points

13821
07:20:23,388 --> 07:20:25,289
and then go from there. Or if

13822
07:20:25,289 --> 07:20:26,825
you want me to do the Broward

13823
07:20:26,825 --> 07:20:28,226
Health one for the trails in

13824
07:20:28,226 --> 07:20:30,328
site, and then that way we know

13825
07:20:30,328 --> 07:20:34,164
that we have at least given all

13826
07:20:34,164 --> 07:20:35,399
of our all of the individuals

13827
07:20:35,399 --> 07:20:38,399
here from the community who

13828
07:20:39,771 --> 07:20:42,207
came to speak an opportunity.

13829
07:20:42,207 --> 07:20:42,540
>> So you're done with your

13830
07:20:42,540 --> 07:20:44,209
presentation?

13831
07:20:44,209 --> 07:20:45,442
>> Well, I was asked to give a

13832
07:20:45,442 --> 07:20:47,479
high level, and I did. And so

13833
07:20:47,479 --> 07:20:48,446
then I was asked to go to the

13834
07:20:48,446 --> 07:20:49,814
decision points. And that's

13835
07:20:49,814 --> 07:20:51,316
where I am on slide 37.

13836
07:20:51,316 --> 07:20:52,517
>> Got it.

13837
07:20:52,517 --> 07:20:53,784
>> Does the would the board

13838
07:20:53,784 --> 07:20:54,519
like to take public comment?

13839
07:20:54,519 --> 07:20:55,987
>> Yes, ma'am.

13840
07:20:55,987 --> 07:20:57,987
>> All right. Cynthia.

13841
07:20:58,557 --> 07:21:00,557
Dominique, Rochelle Sopher,

13842
07:21:00,992 --> 07:21:03,392
Rebecca Jarquin, Stewart Green

13843
07:21:06,798 --> 07:21:08,233
and Cindy Seltzer.

13844
07:21:08,233 --> 07:21:09,267
>> Good afternoon everyone.

13845
07:21:09,267 --> 07:21:10,435
Rochelle Sopher almost. Good

13846
07:21:10,435 --> 07:21:12,670
evening. Real quick I've read

13847
07:21:12,670 --> 07:21:14,673
through the presentation just a

13848
07:21:14,673 --> 07:21:16,274
couple questions. I saw the

13849
07:21:16,274 --> 07:21:18,977
list. I didn't see Deerfield

13850
07:21:18,977 --> 07:21:20,612
Beach Elementary. And I want to

13851
07:21:20,612 --> 07:21:22,614
say it might have been Margate

13852
07:21:22,614 --> 07:21:24,490
Middle on the original form,

13853
07:21:24,490 --> 07:21:26,180
but when I did the deeper dive,

13854
07:21:26,180 --> 07:21:30,818
I did see as I went into the

13855
07:21:31,223 --> 07:21:33,725
pdf. So my questions are this

13856
07:21:33,725 --> 07:21:34,593
for the Margate Middle area,

13857
07:21:34,593 --> 07:21:35,994
especially because that's just

13858
07:21:35,994 --> 07:21:37,596
a hop, skip and a jump.

13859
07:21:37,596 --> 07:21:39,865
>> I think that speaker MAY be

13860
07:21:39,865 --> 07:21:41,333
on the next item we're handling.

13861
07:21:41,333 --> 07:21:43,135
>> Please speak to the item,

13862
07:21:43,135 --> 07:21:43,869
which was what we just gave a

13863
07:21:43,869 --> 07:21:45,337
presentation on.

13864
07:21:45,337 --> 07:21:46,772
>> Was this not six?

13865
07:21:46,772 --> 07:21:48,874
>> I'm sorry, is this

13866
07:21:48,874 --> 07:21:49,941
referencing item number six? I

13867
07:21:49,941 --> 07:21:51,900
apologize, keep going.

13868
07:21:51,900 --> 07:21:52,177
>> Okay. Making sure I'm not

13869
07:21:52,177 --> 07:21:54,613
the one because it's been a

13870
07:21:54,613 --> 07:21:57,810
long day with the Margate

13871
07:21:57,810 --> 07:21:59,318
Middle. So I read somewhere in

13872
07:21:59,318 --> 07:22:01,119
the different pieces that we

13873
07:22:01,119 --> 07:22:03,655
have that we have a high school

13874
07:22:03,655 --> 07:22:06,192
that is going to be upgraded,

13875
07:22:06,192 --> 07:22:08,359
updated for many millions of

13876
07:22:08,359 --> 07:22:09,328
dollars. But it said

13877
07:22:09,328 --> 07:22:10,328
specifically in there that

13878
07:22:10,328 --> 07:22:11,630
almost looks like there's going

13879
07:22:11,630 --> 07:22:12,731
to be a band aid project on

13880
07:22:12,731 --> 07:22:14,466
Margate Middle. We're going to

13881
07:22:14,466 --> 07:22:15,500
keep it barely. I can't

13882
07:22:15,500 --> 07:22:16,968
remember the verbiage that was

13883
07:22:16,968 --> 07:22:18,103
used, but just it's going to be

13884
07:22:18,103 --> 07:22:19,438
barely operational. They're

13885
07:22:19,438 --> 07:22:21,373
going to do the least amount

13886
07:22:21,373 --> 07:22:23,943
possible to keep it going. The

13887
07:22:23,943 --> 07:22:25,677
city of Margate, it's literally

13888
07:22:25,677 --> 07:22:28,480
a hop, skip and a jump from

13889
07:22:28,480 --> 07:22:31,684
where I live. It's not the

13890
07:22:31,684 --> 07:22:33,485
residents there. They need

13891
07:22:33,485 --> 07:22:34,954
better than barely operational.

13892
07:22:34,954 --> 07:22:37,122
They need better than a band

13893
07:22:37,122 --> 07:22:38,523
aid. The fact that my husband's

13894
07:22:38,523 --> 07:22:39,759
best friend went to this middle

13895
07:22:39,759 --> 07:22:41,127
school, the fact that very

13896
07:22:41,127 --> 07:22:42,995
close family members went here

13897
07:22:42,995 --> 07:22:44,362
and everything. This school

13898
07:22:44,362 --> 07:22:45,731
needs a lot more. This

13899
07:22:45,731 --> 07:22:47,199
community needs a lot more.

13900
07:22:47,199 --> 07:22:50,536
They don't have their own high

13901
07:22:50,536 --> 07:22:51,938
school. So I think and it's

13902
07:22:51,938 --> 07:22:53,306
been talked in around some

13903
07:22:53,306 --> 07:22:54,773
community members, we need to

13904
07:22:54,773 --> 07:22:56,175
look at doing more than just a

13905
07:22:56,175 --> 07:22:57,943
band aid operation on Margate

13906
07:22:57,943 --> 07:22:59,912
Middle. We really need to look

13907
07:22:59,912 --> 07:23:00,713
at investing more. And while

13908
07:23:00,713 --> 07:23:01,914
the other high school that

13909
07:23:01,914 --> 07:23:02,815
might get the upgraded

13910
07:23:02,815 --> 07:23:04,550
auditorium, it's a great idea

13911
07:23:04,550 --> 07:23:06,719
and they do need it. I'm not

13912
07:23:06,719 --> 07:23:08,154
saying that they don't. But at

13913
07:23:08,154 --> 07:23:09,889
almost 60 million for that and

13914
07:23:09,889 --> 07:23:11,290
just a little bit for Margate,

13915
07:23:11,290 --> 07:23:13,892
that speaks volumes about our

13916
07:23:13,892 --> 07:23:15,595
lack of respect for that

13917
07:23:15,595 --> 07:23:17,995
community, a community that

13918
07:23:18,563 --> 07:23:20,963
really does embrace their

13919
07:23:22,935 --> 07:23:24,200
school. And we're talking about

13920
07:23:24,200 --> 07:23:25,371
losing kids. If we're just

13921
07:23:25,371 --> 07:23:27,205
going to band aid these schools,

13922
07:23:27,205 --> 07:23:28,307
we're going to continually lose

13923
07:23:28,307 --> 07:23:30,242
kids because who wants to go to

13924
07:23:30,242 --> 07:23:32,645
a school that's held up by band

13925
07:23:32,645 --> 07:23:34,213
aids? I don't the last piece

13926
07:23:34,213 --> 07:23:35,815
was Deerfield Beach Elementary.

13927
07:23:35,815 --> 07:23:38,651
I like the idea. If the land

13928
07:23:38,651 --> 07:23:40,553
does not need to be utilized by

13929
07:23:40,553 --> 07:23:41,955
the school or the district,

13930
07:23:41,955 --> 07:23:43,756
selling it off is a great idea.

13931
07:23:43,756 --> 07:23:45,225
It'll give you income. But was

13932
07:23:45,225 --> 07:23:46,292
that discussed with the

13933
07:23:46,292 --> 07:23:47,326
community of Deerfield Beach?

13934
07:23:47,326 --> 07:23:49,280
Was that discussed with the

13935
07:23:49,280 --> 07:23:50,630
people who live close by? Was

13936
07:23:50,630 --> 07:23:51,130
that discussed with any other

13937
07:23:51,130 --> 07:23:52,732
vested members in Deerfield

13938
07:23:52,732 --> 07:23:54,100
Beach? Those are my questions I

13939
07:23:54,100 --> 07:23:55,268
present to you, and I thank you

13940
07:23:55,268 --> 07:23:57,770
for allowing me to ask the

13941
07:23:57,770 --> 07:23:58,872
questions.

13942
07:23:58,872 --> 07:24:01,600
>> Thank you. Next speaker, we

13943
07:24:01,600 --> 07:24:03,406
have Rebecca Jarquin Stewart

13944
07:24:03,944 --> 07:24:06,944
Green by Cindy Seltzer, Barron

13945
07:24:15,788 --> 07:24:17,189
Channer.

13946
07:24:17,189 --> 07:24:18,924
>> Do I have to have my name

13947
07:24:18,924 --> 07:24:19,926
written down to be a public

13948
07:24:19,926 --> 07:24:21,160
speaker to David Clark, Broward

13949
07:24:21,160 --> 07:24:23,160
Health?

13950
07:24:24,364 --> 07:24:26,199
>> Yes. Yeah. Go ahead.

13951
07:24:26,199 --> 07:24:28,401
>> So we're happy to be here.

13952
07:24:28,401 --> 07:24:29,536
Thank you for allowing us to

13953
07:24:29,536 --> 07:24:31,203
take some time and work with

13954
07:24:31,203 --> 07:24:33,707
staff to get to a point where

13955
07:24:33,707 --> 07:24:35,575
we think we satisfied the

13956
07:24:35,575 --> 07:24:37,900
commission's interest for the

13957
07:24:37,900 --> 07:24:39,409
parkland property on North

13958
07:24:39,479 --> 07:24:41,314
Trail's End and university. So

13959
07:24:41,314 --> 07:24:43,116
we have talked to staff and

13960
07:24:43,116 --> 07:24:44,518
general counsel, and we do have

13961
07:24:44,518 --> 07:24:46,386
a letter of interest on the

13962
07:24:46,386 --> 07:24:48,255
floor right now that's

13963
07:24:48,255 --> 07:24:49,556
consistent with the what what

13964
07:24:49,556 --> 07:24:51,391
we perceive the terms and

13965
07:24:51,391 --> 07:24:53,593
conditions of the the condition

13966
07:24:53,593 --> 07:24:56,362
of sale for that property.

13967
07:24:56,362 --> 07:24:57,831
We've also directly engaged

13968
07:24:57,831 --> 07:24:58,999
Jafco and Eagles Haven directly

13969
07:24:58,999 --> 07:25:01,399
along with the Children's

13970
07:25:01,501 --> 07:25:02,936
Service Council of South

13971
07:25:02,936 --> 07:25:04,371
Florida, to to take a deeper

13972
07:25:04,371 --> 07:25:06,506
dive into some of the services

13973
07:25:06,506 --> 07:25:08,400
that they currently provide,

13974
07:25:08,400 --> 07:25:10,443
some of the growth that they,

13975
07:25:10,443 --> 07:25:12,312
they, they have desired for, in

13976
07:25:12,312 --> 07:25:14,781
addition to how to satisfy them

13977
07:25:14,781 --> 07:25:16,282
beyond, beyond this. So I'm

13978
07:25:16,282 --> 07:25:17,518
going to be here and open for,

13979
07:25:17,518 --> 07:25:19,519
for questions and answers. And

13980
07:25:19,519 --> 07:25:23,119
I think they can talk about

13981
07:25:24,891 --> 07:25:26,260
their interest as well.

13982
07:25:26,260 --> 07:25:29,626
>> Thank you. Any of the other

13983
07:25:32,433 --> 07:25:33,900
speakers that I called.

13984
07:25:33,900 --> 07:25:34,468
>> Good afternoon. Thank you.

13985
07:25:34,468 --> 07:25:35,669
My name.

13986
07:25:35,669 --> 07:25:37,504
>> Is Stuart Greenberg. I am

13987
07:25:37,504 --> 07:25:39,273
the CHAIRMAN Of Jafco

13988
07:25:39,273 --> 07:25:41,441
Children's Village and also

13989
07:25:41,441 --> 07:25:44,441
Eagles Haven. And I recognize

13990
07:25:45,913 --> 07:25:47,915
some of you from the FEBRUARY

13991
07:25:47,915 --> 07:25:50,500
14th commemorations that Eagles

13992
07:25:50,500 --> 07:25:51,519
Haven holds every year for the

13993
07:25:51,519 --> 07:25:53,286
tragedy at Marjory Stoneman

13994
07:25:53,286 --> 07:25:56,189
Douglas High School. I'd like

13995
07:25:56,189 --> 07:25:58,893
to tell you that our board is

13996
07:25:58,893 --> 07:26:00,561
100% behind Eagles Haven and

13997
07:26:00,561 --> 07:26:02,696
the continuation of this

13998
07:26:02,696 --> 07:26:04,899
amazing program. For those of

13999
07:26:04,899 --> 07:26:07,340
you who are unaware, Eagles

14000
07:26:07,340 --> 07:26:10,340
Haven charges nothing for our

14001
07:26:10,270 --> 07:26:12,339
services. We have saved

14002
07:26:12,339 --> 07:26:14,739
probably dozens of suicides

14003
07:26:14,875 --> 07:26:16,744
over the last number of years.

14004
07:26:16,744 --> 07:26:18,744
We've helped countless

14005
07:26:18,845 --> 07:26:21,845
thousands of families, both who

14006
07:26:22,449 --> 07:26:24,752
were victims. The friends of

14007
07:26:24,752 --> 07:26:26,820
those victims, people who live

14008
07:26:26,820 --> 07:26:29,820
in parkland, members of the

14009
07:26:30,691 --> 07:26:32,993
school board, teachers, faculty,

14010
07:26:32,993 --> 07:26:35,362
first responders, and people in

14011
07:26:35,362 --> 07:26:38,962
the area who need help with

14012
07:26:39,366 --> 07:26:42,303
wellness. We are thankful that

14013
07:26:42,303 --> 07:26:44,204
Broward Health has gone ahead

14014
07:26:44,204 --> 07:26:46,574
and offered us certain dollars

14015
07:26:46,574 --> 07:26:49,477
to help us continue our program.

14016
07:26:49,477 --> 07:26:52,477
We're currently located in a

14017
07:26:53,381 --> 07:26:55,282
small strip center space. Our

14018
07:26:55,282 --> 07:26:57,352
program. We'd love to grow it.

14019
07:26:57,352 --> 07:26:59,554
We can't afford to wait the

14020
07:26:59,554 --> 07:27:00,989
seven years, really, until this

14021
07:27:00,989 --> 07:27:03,389
property that Broward Health

14022
07:27:03,924 --> 07:27:06,924
wants to develop is completed.

14023
07:27:07,161 --> 07:27:10,398
Our clinical staff has met, and

14024
07:27:10,398 --> 07:27:12,133
it is not the best place for

14025
07:27:12,133 --> 07:27:14,669
the services that we provide

14026
07:27:14,669 --> 07:27:16,700
upon a medical campus.

14027
07:27:16,700 --> 07:27:18,639
Therefore, we would hope that

14028
07:27:18,639 --> 07:27:21,509
you would go ahead and accept

14029
07:27:21,509 --> 07:27:22,577
Broward Health's offer to

14030
07:27:22,577 --> 07:27:24,579
purchase the property from the

14031
07:27:24,579 --> 07:27:26,514
school board, make the donation

14032
07:27:26,514 --> 07:27:28,160
to Eagles Haven to allow us to

14033
07:27:28,160 --> 07:27:30,485
continue to serve the community

14034
07:27:30,485 --> 07:27:33,687
that we do. Before it was

14035
07:27:33,687 --> 07:27:36,591
mentioned how expensive it is

14036
07:27:36,591 --> 07:27:38,793
for people to seek help or

14037
07:27:38,793 --> 07:27:41,193
therapy, Eagles Haven doesn't

14038
07:27:41,329 --> 07:27:44,532
charge. We are open seven days

14039
07:27:44,532 --> 07:27:46,334
a week. We help everyone who

14040
07:27:46,334 --> 07:27:48,903
either calls or walks in our

14041
07:27:48,903 --> 07:27:51,390
doors. As many of you know,

14042
07:27:51,390 --> 07:27:53,207
during the trial of the shooter,

14043
07:27:53,207 --> 07:27:55,343
we had staff in the courthouse

14044
07:27:55,343 --> 07:27:58,179
full time to help the victims

14045
07:27:58,179 --> 07:28:00,782
get through that tragedy and

14046
07:28:00,782 --> 07:28:02,717
that trauma. I hope that you go

14047
07:28:02,717 --> 07:28:04,386
ahead and endorse and accept

14048
07:28:04,386 --> 07:28:05,820
the proposal from Broward

14049
07:28:05,820 --> 07:28:09,420
Health. I thank you for your

14050
07:28:19,134 --> 07:28:20,568
time and your consideration.

14051
07:28:20,568 --> 07:28:21,637
>> Good afternoon, Cindy

14052
07:28:21,637 --> 07:28:22,704
Aronberg seltzer. I'm the

14053
07:28:22,704 --> 07:28:24,139
PRESIDENT And ceo of the

14054
07:28:24,139 --> 07:28:26,539
Children's Services Council of

14055
07:28:27,800 --> 07:28:28,409
Broward County. Thank you for

14056
07:28:28,409 --> 07:28:31,513
allowing me to speak on this

14057
07:28:31,513 --> 07:28:33,148
proposal today. So, as you know,

14058
07:28:33,148 --> 07:28:34,549
the Children's Services Council

14059
07:28:34,549 --> 07:28:36,180
was the creator of Eagle's

14060
07:28:36,180 --> 07:28:37,853
Haven, and we have been

14061
07:28:37,853 --> 07:28:40,253
supporting this effort through

14062
07:28:42,190 --> 07:28:44,325
Jafco since the tragedy at msd.

14063
07:28:44,325 --> 07:28:47,162
When this was presented to us a

14064
07:28:47,162 --> 07:28:48,963
couple of weeks ago from the

14065
07:28:48,963 --> 07:28:51,363
North Broward Hospital District

14066
07:28:51,900 --> 07:28:55,103
as a way to meet the conditions

14067
07:28:55,103 --> 07:28:57,239
of their bid for your property.

14068
07:28:57,239 --> 07:29:00,175
It struck us as a great

14069
07:29:00,175 --> 07:29:01,243
opportunity, so I am really

14070
07:29:01,243 --> 07:29:03,243
appreciative. The Children's

14071
07:29:03,312 --> 07:29:05,246
Services Council first began

14072
07:29:05,246 --> 07:29:08,170
funding this with help from the

14073
07:29:08,170 --> 07:29:10,417
federal government through the

14074
07:29:10,885 --> 07:29:13,856
arp grant. When that grant ran

14075
07:29:13,856 --> 07:29:16,391
out, the state has stepped in

14076
07:29:16,391 --> 07:29:18,494
to share the cost. We have been

14077
07:29:18,494 --> 07:29:19,962
told that this is probably the

14078
07:29:19,962 --> 07:29:21,664
last year that the state will

14079
07:29:21,664 --> 07:29:24,640
provide funding for Eagle's

14080
07:29:27,102 --> 07:29:29,271
Haven. So getting this

14081
07:29:29,271 --> 07:29:31,806
opportunity to to support the

14082
07:29:31,806 --> 07:29:33,976
program and join with us in

14083
07:29:33,976 --> 07:29:36,111
keeping it alive is very

14084
07:29:36,111 --> 07:29:37,913
welcome. So I'm happy to answer

14085
07:29:37,913 --> 07:29:40,913
any questions about the funding

14086
07:29:41,517 --> 07:29:43,352
or how or why this proposal

14087
07:29:43,352 --> 07:29:45,752
meets that obligation. Thank

14088
07:29:45,821 --> 07:29:47,289
you.

14089
07:29:47,289 --> 07:29:50,289
>> Thank you. Any other public

14090
07:29:51,994 --> 07:29:53,994
speakers?

14091
07:29:54,960 --> 07:29:55,964
>> Good afternoon. Thank you.

14092
07:29:55,964 --> 07:29:57,733
Chair Barron Channer,

14093
07:29:57,733 --> 07:29:58,935
representative of the Sistrunk

14094
07:29:58,935 --> 07:30:01,770
Horizon team and a member of

14095
07:30:01,770 --> 07:30:03,472
the team. And I'm here to talk

14096
07:30:03,472 --> 07:30:04,473
a little bit about it. I think

14097
07:30:04,473 --> 07:30:06,700
your presentation, you would

14098
07:30:06,700 --> 07:30:07,777
have received a little bit of

14099
07:30:07,777 --> 07:30:09,278
more background on the project.

14100
07:30:09,278 --> 07:30:11,130
This is the second time that

14101
07:30:11,130 --> 07:30:12,882
we've been in front of the

14102
07:30:12,882 --> 07:30:14,249
board in a workshop to discuss

14103
07:30:14,249 --> 07:30:17,186
this item. The last time we

14104
07:30:17,186 --> 07:30:18,988
were here, the board provided

14105
07:30:18,988 --> 07:30:20,789
unanimous consent to direct

14106
07:30:20,789 --> 07:30:22,225
further negotiations with staff.

14107
07:30:22,225 --> 07:30:24,727
We had the pleasure of doing so.

14108
07:30:24,727 --> 07:30:26,495
And what you have before you is

14109
07:30:26,495 --> 07:30:28,363
the byproduct of that, which

14110
07:30:28,363 --> 07:30:30,165
includes more details building

14111
07:30:30,165 --> 07:30:32,669
on top of what we presented the

14112
07:30:32,669 --> 07:30:34,870
last time around, substantially

14113
07:30:34,870 --> 07:30:36,339
the presentation and what we're

14114
07:30:36,339 --> 07:30:37,740
offering is the same. I'll

14115
07:30:37,740 --> 07:30:39,542
touch on it a little bit, but

14116
07:30:39,542 --> 07:30:41,711
there's one nuance that's

14117
07:30:41,711 --> 07:30:43,460
specific to be called out. We

14118
07:30:43,460 --> 07:30:44,547
have increased the square

14119
07:30:44,547 --> 07:30:46,349
footage of training space that

14120
07:30:46,349 --> 07:30:48,551
we are offering to the district.

14121
07:30:48,551 --> 07:30:49,952
And so now our proposal, in

14122
07:30:49,952 --> 07:30:50,686
part a reflection of the

14123
07:30:50,686 --> 07:30:52,455
conversations that have been

14124
07:30:52,455 --> 07:30:53,456
had, including dating back

14125
07:30:53,456 --> 07:30:54,590
months ago with the

14126
07:30:54,590 --> 07:30:56,393
superintendent and subsequently

14127
07:30:56,393 --> 07:30:58,294
with staff, we recognize that

14128
07:30:58,294 --> 07:31:00,797
the district could benefit from

14129
07:31:00,797 --> 07:31:02,231
training space, particularly

14130
07:31:02,231 --> 07:31:05,134
located in that area. We are

14131
07:31:05,134 --> 07:31:06,803
offering 5000ft!S, 5000ftt!S for

14132
07:31:06,803 --> 07:31:08,671
th d distrto own. If you

14133
07:31:08,671 --> 07:31:10,840
wouldd lik to. If not,, th

14134
07:31:10,840 --> 07:31:12,309
we'l'll be available t y you. So

14135
07:31:12,309 --> 07:31:13,877
that o one part of our offer.

14136
07:31:13,877 --> 07:31:15,879
That's a nuance that wasn't

14137
07:31:15,879 --> 07:31:17,714
obvious from the last offer.

14138
07:31:17,714 --> 07:31:19,482
What we are asking for you to

14139
07:31:19,482 --> 07:31:21,318
consider is consider a

14140
07:31:21,318 --> 07:31:22,885
designation to negotiate. We

14141
07:31:22,885 --> 07:31:24,921
think that what we've presented

14142
07:31:24,921 --> 07:31:26,390
to you gives you a good

14143
07:31:26,390 --> 07:31:27,790
perspective of what we are

14144
07:31:27,790 --> 07:31:29,626
offering, and I'll walk through

14145
07:31:29,626 --> 07:31:31,695
that, and we are at a point

14146
07:31:31,695 --> 07:31:32,929
that for us to add additional

14147
07:31:32,929 --> 07:31:34,230
detail and get to something

14148
07:31:34,230 --> 07:31:35,965
that you can specifically

14149
07:31:35,965 --> 07:31:37,868
deliberate on, we would welcome

14150
07:31:37,868 --> 07:31:40,268
the opportunity to negotiate

14151
07:31:40,337 --> 07:31:41,838
with your staff. That

14152
07:31:41,838 --> 07:31:43,941
negotiation, we believe, would

14153
07:31:43,941 --> 07:31:46,176
yield two things for you to

14154
07:31:46,176 --> 07:31:48,110
ultimately vote on. If if your

14155
07:31:48,110 --> 07:31:49,379
discretion were to allow one,

14156
07:31:49,379 --> 07:31:51,882
there would be a lease. So we

14157
07:31:51,882 --> 07:31:55,118
are proposing to lease the site

14158
07:31:55,118 --> 07:31:56,719
for 99 years. You will maintain

14159
07:31:56,719 --> 07:31:58,755
ownership. Two, there would be

14160
07:31:58,755 --> 07:31:59,789
a development agreement. The

14161
07:31:59,789 --> 07:32:01,658
development agreement would

14162
07:32:01,658 --> 07:32:03,760
essentially cover the terms of

14163
07:32:03,760 --> 07:32:05,328
the project as you understand

14164
07:32:05,328 --> 07:32:07,640
it, so that you can be clear

14165
07:32:07,640 --> 07:32:08,431
that what we would attempt to

14166
07:32:08,431 --> 07:32:09,633
build would be consistent with

14167
07:32:09,633 --> 07:32:11,167
what we have proposed to you.

14168
07:32:11,167 --> 07:32:12,503
So you would have those two

14169
07:32:12,503 --> 07:32:14,938
things. A third document that

14170
07:32:14,938 --> 07:32:17,107
would be attached would be a

14171
07:32:17,107 --> 07:32:18,342
housing preference plan. And so

14172
07:32:18,342 --> 07:32:20,344
we have suggested to you that

14173
07:32:20,344 --> 07:32:22,146
there will be 300 units of

14174
07:32:22,146 --> 07:32:23,580
affordable housing. The details

14175
07:32:23,580 --> 07:32:24,681
you have before you outline the

14176
07:32:24,681 --> 07:32:26,216
fact that all of the units

14177
07:32:26,216 --> 07:32:27,918
would be made affordable, they

14178
07:32:27,918 --> 07:32:29,190
would be made affordable for

14179
07:32:29,190 --> 07:32:32,190
levels of income that range

14180
07:32:32,623 --> 07:32:33,991
from 30% Ami up to 80% Ami. So

14181
07:32:33,991 --> 07:32:35,459
a broad swath of your employees

14182
07:32:35,459 --> 07:32:37,160
would be able to afford the

14183
07:32:37,160 --> 07:32:38,696
units one bedrooms, two

14184
07:32:38,696 --> 07:32:40,197
bedrooms and three bedrooms all

14185
07:32:40,197 --> 07:32:42,700
would be available at all of

14186
07:32:42,700 --> 07:32:44,735
those various income categories.

14187
07:32:44,735 --> 07:32:47,304
And so what we are proposing to

14188
07:32:47,304 --> 07:32:48,706
do is in order to give you

14189
07:32:48,706 --> 07:32:50,206
confidence as to what would be

14190
07:32:50,206 --> 07:32:51,842
offered in the preference plan,

14191
07:32:51,842 --> 07:32:52,510
it will be offered in terms of

14192
07:32:52,510 --> 07:32:54,178
the affordable housing, there

14193
07:32:54,178 --> 07:32:55,579
would be a preference plan that

14194
07:32:55,579 --> 07:32:57,579
specifically stipulates the

14195
07:32:59,183 --> 07:33:00,417
terms of that. Thank you.

14196
07:33:00,417 --> 07:33:03,417
>> Thank you. Any other public

14197
07:33:07,358 --> 07:33:08,926
speakers? All right. Doctor.

14198
07:33:08,926 --> 07:33:10,261
Wanza, did you want to present

14199
07:33:10,261 --> 07:33:12,960
anything else before I go to

14200
07:33:12,960 --> 07:33:13,798
board? Discussion?

14201
07:33:13,798 --> 07:33:15,299
>> I think we're ready to start

14202
07:33:15,299 --> 07:33:18,299
board discussion. And then as

14203
07:33:18,302 --> 07:33:20,700
needed, we can, you know,

14204
07:33:20,700 --> 07:33:21,572
provide, you know, respond to

14205
07:33:21,572 --> 07:33:23,700
questions, provide information

14206
07:33:23,700 --> 07:33:24,141
as needed.

14207
07:33:24,141 --> 07:33:26,109
>> Got it. Okay. Any other

14208
07:33:26,109 --> 07:33:26,343
public speakers?

14209
07:33:26,343 --> 07:33:28,120
>> Yes.

14210
07:33:28,120 --> 07:33:29,313
[Laughter]

14211
07:33:29,313 --> 07:33:31,516
Sorry. This is from Cynthia

14212
07:33:31,516 --> 07:33:33,384
Dominique. As I was pulling out

14213
07:33:33,384 --> 07:33:34,619
of the out of the garage, she

14214
07:33:34,619 --> 07:33:35,553
asked if I could come down and

14215
07:33:35,553 --> 07:33:36,686
read this for her.

14216
07:33:36,686 --> 07:33:37,421
>> Yeah. Please state your name

14217
07:33:37,421 --> 07:33:38,422
for.

14218
07:33:38,422 --> 07:33:39,457
>> The record. Linda Ferrara

14219
07:33:39,457 --> 07:33:41,857
for Cynthia. Dominique. I'm

14220
07:33:41,926 --> 07:33:44,127
Cooper City, Coral Springs. The

14221
07:33:44,127 --> 07:33:45,963
current scope of work has

14222
07:33:45,963 --> 07:33:47,731
exceeded what was previously

14223
07:33:47,731 --> 07:33:49,199
planned. And because of. I'm

14224
07:33:49,199 --> 07:33:50,301
sorry, I'm asking you to

14225
07:33:50,301 --> 07:33:51,736
support the building

14226
07:33:51,736 --> 07:33:53,103
replacement for Margate Middle

14227
07:33:53,103 --> 07:33:54,639
School. The current scope of

14228
07:33:54,639 --> 07:33:56,174
work has exceeded what was

14229
07:33:56,174 --> 07:33:57,808
previously planned, and because

14230
07:33:57,808 --> 07:34:00,411
much of the building and

14231
07:34:00,411 --> 07:34:04,110
infrastructure is at the end of

14232
07:34:04,382 --> 07:34:06,382
life requirement. Oops.

14233
07:34:07,819 --> 07:34:10,219
Speeding. Sorry. It's flipping

14234
07:34:10,788 --> 07:34:12,223
here. End of life requires

14235
07:34:12,223 --> 07:34:13,992
spending considerable,

14236
07:34:13,992 --> 07:34:15,860
considerable more money to

14237
07:34:15,860 --> 07:34:18,620
complete, and not doing this

14238
07:34:18,620 --> 07:34:19,697
will have a negative impact on

14239
07:34:19,697 --> 07:34:22,970
school operation and student

14240
07:34:22,333 --> 07:34:23,735
enrollment. The district spend

14241
07:34:23,735 --> 07:34:25,236
approximately $3 million

14242
07:34:25,236 --> 07:34:27,636
putting temporary modulars on

14243
07:34:27,739 --> 07:34:29,507
the campus that are not always

14244
07:34:29,507 --> 07:34:30,407
used because of various

14245
07:34:30,407 --> 07:34:31,709
challenges. This money could

14246
07:34:31,709 --> 07:34:34,145
have been put towards the

14247
07:34:34,145 --> 07:34:35,579
larger project. In 2018,

14248
07:34:35,579 --> 07:34:36,982
approximately $9 million was

14249
07:34:36,982 --> 07:34:39,840
allocated to this project,

14250
07:34:39,840 --> 07:34:41,484
which included upgrades. Single

14251
07:34:41,987 --> 07:34:44,189
point entry, fire alarm

14252
07:34:44,189 --> 07:34:46,589
sprinklers, conversion of music

14253
07:34:46,690 --> 07:34:48,593
and art, lab space, electrical

14254
07:34:48,593 --> 07:34:50,593
exterior building, envelope,

14255
07:34:50,595 --> 07:34:52,630
Hvac and the media center.

14256
07:34:52,630 --> 07:34:54,166
Since then, some work has been

14257
07:34:54,166 --> 07:34:55,800
done, but the building remains

14258
07:34:55,800 --> 07:34:57,536
in need of significant work and

14259
07:34:57,536 --> 07:34:58,637
in pretty much the same

14260
07:34:58,637 --> 07:35:00,739
condition as it was over ten

14261
07:35:00,739 --> 07:35:02,841
years ago. But the cost of the

14262
07:35:02,841 --> 07:35:04,309
work has increased tremendously.

14263
07:35:04,309 --> 07:35:06,709
Currently, the smart future

14264
07:35:07,179 --> 07:35:08,680
shows 23 million was allocated

14265
07:35:08,680 --> 07:35:09,748
to the smart project

14266
07:35:09,748 --> 07:35:12,500
renovations, but I believe the

14267
07:35:12,500 --> 07:35:13,351
current number is 33 million.

14268
07:35:13,351 --> 07:35:14,786
That has already been

14269
07:35:14,786 --> 07:35:16,254
encumbered, is not financially

14270
07:35:16,254 --> 07:35:17,656
prudent to continue pouring

14271
07:35:17,656 --> 07:35:20,560
money into the infrastructure

14272
07:35:20,580 --> 07:35:21,693
that we can't see. When there

14273
07:35:21,693 --> 07:35:23,428
are other areas that are at the

14274
07:35:23,428 --> 07:35:24,863
end of life and need to be

14275
07:35:24,863 --> 07:35:26,265
upgraded. We cannot keep doing

14276
07:35:26,265 --> 07:35:28,990
these change orders and putting

14277
07:35:28,990 --> 07:35:30,435
money into a failing building.

14278
07:35:30,435 --> 07:35:32,804
We can build a brand new state

14279
07:35:32,804 --> 07:35:33,872
of the art building without

14280
07:35:33,872 --> 07:35:35,307
displacing students or

14281
07:35:35,307 --> 07:35:36,441
disrupting operations. The

14282
07:35:36,441 --> 07:35:37,476
students in this community

14283
07:35:37,476 --> 07:35:39,578
deserve it. Additionally, the

14284
07:35:39,578 --> 07:35:40,646
school community has had

14285
07:35:40,646 --> 07:35:42,948
conversations about grade level

14286
07:35:42,948 --> 07:35:44,216
changes to convert to 6 to 12

14287
07:35:44,216 --> 07:35:46,118
school, as well as the addition

14288
07:35:46,118 --> 07:35:47,519
of a civil engineering magnet

14289
07:35:47,519 --> 07:35:49,919
program which receives strong

14290
07:35:50,855 --> 07:35:53,255
community support. Thank you.

14291
07:35:54,459 --> 07:35:55,794
Thank you.

14292
07:35:55,794 --> 07:35:58,794
>> Thank you. Any other public

14293
07:35:59,765 --> 07:36:01,266
speakers? MR. Sullivan?

14294
07:36:01,266 --> 07:36:03,469
>> Yes. I just wanted to let

14295
07:36:03,469 --> 07:36:05,700
the board know that the Broward

14296
07:36:05,700 --> 07:36:07,372
Health did send us a letter of

14297
07:36:07,372 --> 07:36:08,874
intent, which does honor the

14298
07:36:08,874 --> 07:36:11,430
motion, but is different from

14299
07:36:11,430 --> 07:36:12,545
what was spoken by the public.

14300
07:36:12,545 --> 07:36:15,280
So I just wanted to mention

14301
07:36:15,280 --> 07:36:16,315
that. So when the board's

14302
07:36:16,315 --> 07:36:17,383
giving staff feedback during

14303
07:36:17,383 --> 07:36:19,685
the discussion to keep that in

14304
07:36:19,685 --> 07:36:21,520
mind.

14305
07:36:21,520 --> 07:36:23,452
>> All right. Board member

14306
07:36:23,622 --> 07:36:25,357
discussion. MISS Hixon.

14307
07:36:25,357 --> 07:36:27,159
>> Thank you so much, chair,

14308
07:36:27,159 --> 07:36:30,759
and thank you to everybody for

14309
07:36:31,164 --> 07:36:32,965
coming out today. I first, I

14310
07:36:32,965 --> 07:36:34,990
want to I don't know like what

14311
07:36:34,990 --> 07:36:36,535
consensus you want, but I'm for

14312
07:36:36,535 --> 07:36:39,710
the sistrunk moving forward. So

14313
07:36:39,710 --> 07:36:41,907
I'll start with that. But I

14314
07:36:41,907 --> 07:36:45,507
also want to ask my colleagues

14315
07:36:45,878 --> 07:36:48,878
to give consensus for Broward

14316
07:36:49,148 --> 07:36:50,216
Health to be able to give the

14317
07:36:50,216 --> 07:36:52,180
donation that they're

14318
07:36:52,180 --> 07:36:53,786
suggesting to Eagles Haven as

14319
07:36:53,786 --> 07:36:55,988
opposed to the space. Although

14320
07:36:55,988 --> 07:36:57,823
our b item that we approved did

14321
07:36:57,823 --> 07:37:00,193
ask specifically for space, it

14322
07:37:00,193 --> 07:37:01,761
was in the spirit of making

14323
07:37:01,761 --> 07:37:03,929
sure that Eagles Haven

14324
07:37:03,929 --> 07:37:06,329
longevity continued. And based

14325
07:37:06,399 --> 07:37:08,200
on Eagles Haven and Jafco

14326
07:37:08,200 --> 07:37:10,350
having discussions with Broward

14327
07:37:10,350 --> 07:37:11,704
Health, it was determined that

14328
07:37:11,704 --> 07:37:14,607
giving them the space where

14329
07:37:14,607 --> 07:37:17,143
it's been suggested maybe is

14330
07:37:17,143 --> 07:37:18,544
not the best thing for Eagles

14331
07:37:18,544 --> 07:37:21,514
Haven moving forward. So they

14332
07:37:21,514 --> 07:37:22,882
did prefer to take that

14333
07:37:22,882 --> 07:37:25,184
donation and be able to move

14334
07:37:25,184 --> 07:37:27,620
into a space quicker and and to

14335
07:37:27,620 --> 07:37:28,687
have that longevity. So I just

14336
07:37:28,687 --> 07:37:30,523
want to be sure that my

14337
07:37:30,523 --> 07:37:31,791
colleagues understand that it's

14338
07:37:31,791 --> 07:37:33,726
still in the spirit of what I

14339
07:37:33,726 --> 07:37:35,461
believe we all voted for, which

14340
07:37:35,461 --> 07:37:37,630
was to give longevity and make

14341
07:37:37,630 --> 07:37:39,432
sure Eagles Haven continued,

14342
07:37:39,432 --> 07:37:41,935
although we thought it best to

14343
07:37:41,935 --> 07:37:43,803
be a space in the new Broward

14344
07:37:43,803 --> 07:37:46,639
Health building that they were

14345
07:37:46,639 --> 07:37:48,541
going to put in in the area

14346
07:37:48,541 --> 07:37:50,677
that they're purchasing. It

14347
07:37:50,677 --> 07:37:51,711
turned out that after

14348
07:37:51,711 --> 07:37:53,246
discussion, that's really not

14349
07:37:53,246 --> 07:37:56,246
what's best for Eagles Haven.

14350
07:37:57,517 --> 07:37:58,918
So I would hate to make someone

14351
07:37:58,918 --> 07:38:00,754
stay along the lines of what we

14352
07:38:00,754 --> 07:38:02,622
thought was best and not be

14353
07:38:02,622 --> 07:38:04,324
able to give Eagles Haven what

14354
07:38:04,324 --> 07:38:06,259
they've all determined is the

14355
07:38:06,259 --> 07:38:08,662
best. So I hope consensus

14356
07:38:08,662 --> 07:38:09,662
moving forward is to allow

14357
07:38:09,662 --> 07:38:11,464
Broward Health to move forward

14358
07:38:11,464 --> 07:38:13,599
with the contract to buy the

14359
07:38:13,599 --> 07:38:16,102
the land at the purchase price,

14360
07:38:16,102 --> 07:38:19,390
and then give that donation

14361
07:38:19,390 --> 07:38:20,874
piece to Eagles Haven to allow

14362
07:38:20,874 --> 07:38:23,777
them to find the space and be

14363
07:38:23,777 --> 07:38:24,845
able to continue on. And, you

14364
07:38:24,845 --> 07:38:26,112
know, Broward Health would

14365
07:38:26,112 --> 07:38:27,414
still with the internships and

14366
07:38:27,414 --> 07:38:29,449
all of that, that's still part

14367
07:38:29,449 --> 07:38:31,840
of what that deal is. But I

14368
07:38:31,840 --> 07:38:32,850
just wanted to make sure we all

14369
07:38:32,850 --> 07:38:33,119
understood that they weren't

14370
07:38:33,119 --> 07:38:34,554
backing out of anything. It

14371
07:38:34,554 --> 07:38:36,489
just came from a conversation

14372
07:38:36,489 --> 07:38:38,792
that they had and is what's

14373
07:38:38,792 --> 07:38:40,827
been determined is best for the

14374
07:38:40,827 --> 07:38:42,863
community in Eagles Haven. So

14375
07:38:42,863 --> 07:38:44,863
thank you.

14376
07:38:46,733 --> 07:38:49,133
>> Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff.

14377
07:38:50,690 --> 07:38:52,940
>> Thank you. I agree with MRS.

14378
07:38:52,940 --> 07:38:54,708
Hixon. I'm honestly I'm I'm

14379
07:38:54,708 --> 07:38:57,708
really upset and shaking right

14380
07:38:57,878 --> 07:39:00,380
now to possibly hear that

14381
07:39:00,380 --> 07:39:03,160
Eagles Haven would lose their

14382
07:39:03,160 --> 07:39:05,180
funding after this year. Eight

14383
07:39:05,180 --> 07:39:06,887
years ago, 17 people were

14384
07:39:06,887 --> 07:39:09,287
murdered and 17 people were

14385
07:39:09,456 --> 07:39:13,560
shot and lived. And the trauma

14386
07:39:13,860 --> 07:39:15,562
that my community has is still

14387
07:39:15,562 --> 07:39:19,133
there. And it will continue to

14388
07:39:19,133 --> 07:39:22,369
be for years. So this donation

14389
07:39:22,369 --> 07:39:25,105
that Broward Health is going to

14390
07:39:25,105 --> 07:39:27,207
give to Eagles Haven will allow

14391
07:39:27,207 --> 07:39:29,207
for the financial

14392
07:39:29,609 --> 07:39:32,900
sustainability of Eagles Haven

14393
07:39:34,214 --> 07:39:37,214
to continue. There's been five

14394
07:39:37,518 --> 07:39:40,518
suicides since the tragedy. And

14395
07:39:41,121 --> 07:39:44,240
this is very much needed to

14396
07:39:44,240 --> 07:39:47,240
provide the services for our

14397
07:39:47,127 --> 07:39:50,727
community and to deal with this

14398
07:39:51,165 --> 07:39:54,765
trauma that we all still have.

14399
07:39:55,669 --> 07:39:58,705
So I hope my colleagues support

14400
07:39:58,705 --> 07:40:01,705
this donation. So Eagles Haven

14401
07:40:02,376 --> 07:40:04,545
can continue for years to come.

14402
07:40:04,545 --> 07:40:06,545
Thank you.

14403
07:40:08,115 --> 07:40:09,917
>> Thank you. DR. Holness.

14404
07:40:09,917 --> 07:40:11,510
>> Thank you, MADAM Chair. Can

14405
07:40:11,510 --> 07:40:12,119
you hear me clearly, MADAM

14406
07:40:12,119 --> 07:40:14,119
Chair?

14407
07:40:14,655 --> 07:40:17,655
>> Yes, we can hear you.

14408
07:40:18,590 --> 07:40:19,994
>> Okay. So I support board

14409
07:40:19,994 --> 07:40:22,496
Member Hixon as well as board

14410
07:40:22,496 --> 07:40:23,965
member Alhadef in terms of

14411
07:40:23,965 --> 07:40:26,965
allowing Broward Health to go

14412
07:40:27,235 --> 07:40:29,360
ahead and purchase but support

14413
07:40:29,360 --> 07:40:31,906
Eagles Haven with the donation.

14414
07:40:31,906 --> 07:40:34,906
So I'm supportive of that.

14415
07:40:36,210 --> 07:40:38,790
Regarding Seagull, I am very

14416
07:40:38,790 --> 07:40:41,790
interested in an option that

14417
07:40:42,160 --> 07:40:45,160
will generate some kind of

14418
07:40:45,586 --> 07:40:48,586
funds. It appears that option

14419
07:40:49,289 --> 07:40:50,424
one and three could do that,

14420
07:40:50,424 --> 07:40:53,795
but I have a question for

14421
07:40:53,795 --> 07:40:56,795
Doctor Wanza or Doctor Hepburn

14422
07:40:57,798 --> 07:41:00,000
for Seagull. In terms of option

14423
07:41:00,000 --> 07:41:01,302
one, couldn't the district

14424
07:41:01,302 --> 07:41:03,302
Safety Security Emergency

14425
07:41:05,273 --> 07:41:07,273
Preparedness Division be

14426
07:41:08,676 --> 07:41:10,411
located in some future schools

14427
07:41:10,411 --> 07:41:12,213
that might be redefined or

14428
07:41:12,213 --> 07:41:13,982
repurposed or closed, as

14429
07:41:13,982 --> 07:41:16,982
opposed to Seagull? Because I

14430
07:41:17,285 --> 07:41:19,190
believe Seagull has a huge

14431
07:41:19,190 --> 07:41:20,789
property value because of its

14432
07:41:20,789 --> 07:41:22,590
location. So is there

14433
07:41:22,590 --> 07:41:24,793
alternative options that the

14434
07:41:24,793 --> 07:41:26,594
ssp division could be located

14435
07:41:26,594 --> 07:41:28,129
in?

14436
07:41:28,129 --> 07:41:29,864
>> MR. Sullivan?

14437
07:41:29,864 --> 07:41:31,864
>> Doctor Wanza, please.

14438
07:41:32,320 --> 07:41:35,236
>> Thank you. So thank you. DR.

14439
07:41:35,236 --> 07:41:37,739
Holness. So the ssp division is

14440
07:41:37,739 --> 07:41:39,541
being relocated to Plantation

14441
07:41:39,541 --> 07:41:41,642
Middle School. This is

14442
07:41:41,642 --> 07:41:43,811
something separate and apart.

14443
07:41:43,811 --> 07:41:45,413
When initially the board

14444
07:41:45,413 --> 07:41:47,182
received a proposal from the

14445
07:41:47,182 --> 07:41:49,283
city of Fort Lauderdale, who

14446
07:41:49,283 --> 07:41:51,683
they were initially interested

14447
07:41:52,486 --> 07:41:54,322
in developing a public safety

14448
07:41:54,322 --> 07:41:55,457
training site. And Chief

14449
07:41:55,457 --> 07:41:57,591
Gregory is here, so I don't

14450
07:41:57,591 --> 07:41:59,627
want to speak for him. But once

14451
07:41:59,627 --> 07:42:02,364
that the. Once the city

14452
07:42:02,364 --> 07:42:04,699
withdrew its interest with that

14453
07:42:04,699 --> 07:42:05,800
for that particular piece of

14454
07:42:05,800 --> 07:42:08,200
property, district property to

14455
07:42:10,505 --> 07:42:11,973
do that, then our safety and

14456
07:42:11,973 --> 07:42:12,674
security arm of the district

14457
07:42:12,674 --> 07:42:15,176
said, wait a minute. This MAY

14458
07:42:15,176 --> 07:42:18,130
be an opportunity that the we

14459
07:42:18,130 --> 07:42:19,615
can develop for the district to

14460
07:42:19,615 --> 07:42:20,983
offer a develop its own

14461
07:42:20,983 --> 07:42:23,185
training site. And then it

14462
07:42:23,185 --> 07:42:24,553
would be a a resource. I'm

14463
07:42:24,553 --> 07:42:25,587
sorry. It would be an

14464
07:42:25,587 --> 07:42:27,388
opportunity to generate

14465
07:42:27,388 --> 07:42:29,788
resources for the district,

14466
07:42:29,925 --> 07:42:31,693
because then they could lease

14467
07:42:31,693 --> 07:42:34,930
out, allow other agencies,

14468
07:42:34,996 --> 07:42:37,899
whatever is the proper term to

14469
07:42:37,899 --> 07:42:39,768
come and receive training for

14470
07:42:39,768 --> 07:42:41,690
cost. So Chief Gregory is here.

14471
07:42:41,690 --> 07:42:44,339
I don't want to speak for him,

14472
07:42:44,339 --> 07:42:46,842
but this would be a training

14473
07:42:46,842 --> 07:42:49,842
facility for a variety of

14474
07:42:51,880 --> 07:42:53,315
public safety opportunities.

14475
07:42:53,315 --> 07:42:55,217
>> Got it. And Doctor Wanza,

14476
07:42:55,217 --> 07:42:58,217
before Chief Gregory speak on

14477
07:42:59,454 --> 07:43:01,256
that, have we done any sort of

14478
07:43:01,256 --> 07:43:03,910
assessment or any kind of

14479
07:43:03,910 --> 07:43:06,910
determination as to the needs

14480
07:43:06,661 --> 07:43:08,497
of this type of service? Has

14481
07:43:08,497 --> 07:43:10,366
there been any needs assessment

14482
07:43:10,366 --> 07:43:12,468
done to ensure that option one

14483
07:43:12,468 --> 07:43:13,335
would be successful as a safety

14484
07:43:13,335 --> 07:43:14,569
training site?

14485
07:43:14,569 --> 07:43:16,172
>> So I think Chief Gregory

14486
07:43:16,172 --> 07:43:17,506
needs to speak to that, because

14487
07:43:17,506 --> 07:43:19,241
I think that they have done

14488
07:43:19,241 --> 07:43:21,810
some of that work and that, and

14489
07:43:21,810 --> 07:43:23,612
that's what piqued their

14490
07:43:23,612 --> 07:43:26,612
interest in looking at this

14491
07:43:26,882 --> 07:43:28,840
opportunity for the district.

14492
07:43:28,840 --> 07:43:28,918
>> Okay. So I'll wait to hear

14493
07:43:28,918 --> 07:43:29,151
from chief.

14494
07:43:29,151 --> 07:43:30,219
>> Okay.

14495
07:43:30,219 --> 07:43:31,320
>> Mike Gregory, Chief Safety

14496
07:43:31,320 --> 07:43:33,720
and Security Officer, Broward

14497
07:43:34,560 --> 07:43:35,157
County School District, as

14498
07:43:35,157 --> 07:43:36,250
stated by the City of Fort

14499
07:43:36,250 --> 07:43:37,659
Lauderdale, there was interest

14500
07:43:37,659 --> 07:43:38,427
by other agencies also

14501
07:43:38,427 --> 07:43:40,762
expressed through the Broward

14502
07:43:40,762 --> 07:43:42,732
Police Chiefs Association for a

14503
07:43:42,732 --> 07:43:44,800
training facility that could be

14504
07:43:44,800 --> 07:43:46,268
used for school safety. With

14505
07:43:46,268 --> 07:43:48,668
regard to active shooter

14506
07:43:48,770 --> 07:43:50,539
training and evacuations and

14507
07:43:50,539 --> 07:43:52,410
rescues for both police

14508
07:43:52,410 --> 07:43:53,409
personnel as well as fire

14509
07:43:53,409 --> 07:43:54,543
personnel. So that was an

14510
07:43:54,543 --> 07:43:55,511
opportunity that was being

14511
07:43:55,511 --> 07:43:56,512
presented by the city of Fort

14512
07:43:56,512 --> 07:43:57,779
Lauderdale. We were looking

14513
07:43:57,779 --> 07:44:00,483
forward to partnering with them

14514
07:44:00,483 --> 07:44:01,584
and participating in that that

14515
07:44:01,584 --> 07:44:03,619
that training once the city of

14516
07:44:03,619 --> 07:44:04,620
Fort Lauderdale was no longer

14517
07:44:04,620 --> 07:44:06,155
interested in that site and

14518
07:44:06,155 --> 07:44:08,991
wanted to shift gears, we still

14519
07:44:08,991 --> 07:44:11,694
saw the value in offering that

14520
07:44:11,694 --> 07:44:12,961
capability to our 200 plus SROs

14521
07:44:12,961 --> 07:44:15,980
in Broward County that don't

14522
07:44:15,980 --> 07:44:17,599
have the access to that type of

14523
07:44:17,599 --> 07:44:19,999
training readily available. And

14524
07:44:20,680 --> 07:44:22,710
here in Broward County. So that

14525
07:44:22,710 --> 07:44:23,973
was a a gap that we thought

14526
07:44:23,973 --> 07:44:27,677
we'd be able to fill if there

14527
07:44:27,677 --> 07:44:31,247
wasn't a use available for or a

14528
07:44:31,247 --> 07:44:32,682
use identified for Seagull. So

14529
07:44:32,682 --> 07:44:34,550
that's the extent of it at this

14530
07:44:34,550 --> 07:44:36,652
point. And if there this school

14531
07:44:36,652 --> 07:44:37,820
was available, others were not.

14532
07:44:37,820 --> 07:44:40,256
So that's the reason why it

14533
07:44:40,256 --> 07:44:41,724
came on the radar.

14534
07:44:41,724 --> 07:44:43,893
>> Okay. Thank you. Chief

14535
07:44:43,893 --> 07:44:46,293
Gregory. So, Doctor Wanza,

14536
07:44:47,430 --> 07:44:49,598
would it be problematic to also

14537
07:44:49,598 --> 07:44:51,598
explore option three

14538
07:44:51,768 --> 07:44:53,536
simultaneously with option one

14539
07:44:53,536 --> 07:44:56,139
in terms of the formal

14540
07:44:56,139 --> 07:44:57,574
proposals to see what kind of

14541
07:44:57,574 --> 07:45:00,410
interest and whether or not it

14542
07:45:00,410 --> 07:45:02,810
would be more beneficial

14543
07:45:02,945 --> 07:45:05,345
financially for option three

14544
07:45:05,882 --> 07:45:07,150
versus option one.

14545
07:45:07,150 --> 07:45:09,180
>> So I don't see where it

14546
07:45:09,180 --> 07:45:10,850
would be a problem for us to do

14547
07:45:10,850 --> 07:45:11,888
it. We just need to get

14548
07:45:11,888 --> 07:45:13,756
direction from the board. Are

14549
07:45:13,756 --> 07:45:16,659
you more interested in the

14550
07:45:16,659 --> 07:45:18,862
district having its own public

14551
07:45:18,862 --> 07:45:20,630
safety training entity, where

14552
07:45:20,630 --> 07:45:22,399
there can be a variety of

14553
07:45:22,399 --> 07:45:23,834
safety training and protocols

14554
07:45:23,834 --> 07:45:25,635
and procedures and things

14555
07:45:25,635 --> 07:45:27,103
offered for agencies that do

14556
07:45:27,103 --> 07:45:28,672
come in and assist with school

14557
07:45:28,672 --> 07:45:31,800
safety? Is is that a direction

14558
07:45:31,800 --> 07:45:32,309
the board wants to go in or do

14559
07:45:32,309 --> 07:45:34,811
or would you be more interested

14560
07:45:34,811 --> 07:45:36,246
in potentially, you know, doing

14561
07:45:36,246 --> 07:45:38,915
some kind of ground lease or

14562
07:45:38,915 --> 07:45:40,149
going through a formal proposal

14563
07:45:40,149 --> 07:45:42,552
process to see if there are

14564
07:45:42,552 --> 07:45:44,530
other opportunities that the

14565
07:45:44,530 --> 07:45:46,422
board would want to consider?

14566
07:45:46,422 --> 07:45:47,624
So there isn't. I don't think

14567
07:45:47,624 --> 07:45:49,590
there's an issue, an issue, if

14568
07:45:49,590 --> 07:45:50,494
you will, with us looking at

14569
07:45:50,494 --> 07:45:51,661
both. And then and then in the

14570
07:45:51,661 --> 07:45:53,430
end, the board would tell us

14571
07:45:53,430 --> 07:45:54,397
which direction it wants to go

14572
07:45:54,397 --> 07:45:56,397
in.

14573
07:45:58,340 --> 07:45:59,870
>> Okay, so, MADAM Chair, our

14574
07:45:59,870 --> 07:46:01,571
district has financial

14575
07:46:01,571 --> 07:46:03,730
constraints. And for me, I

14576
07:46:03,730 --> 07:46:04,574
would be interested in the

14577
07:46:04,574 --> 07:46:07,144
option that can bring us the

14578
07:46:07,144 --> 07:46:09,212
most financially. So in order

14579
07:46:09,212 --> 07:46:10,580
to determine that, I believe we

14580
07:46:10,580 --> 07:46:13,516
would have we would need to

14581
07:46:13,516 --> 07:46:15,652
take the formal proposals done

14582
07:46:15,652 --> 07:46:16,820
in option three and do a

14583
07:46:16,820 --> 07:46:18,488
comparative with option one as

14584
07:46:18,488 --> 07:46:20,257
to what would be best suited

14585
07:46:20,257 --> 07:46:22,657
for the district financially.

14586
07:46:22,859 --> 07:46:26,163
So that's my position on The

14587
07:46:26,163 --> 07:46:28,499
Seagull, and I'm thinking that

14588
07:46:28,499 --> 07:46:30,167
it could be done simultaneously.

14589
07:46:30,167 --> 07:46:31,902
We could take formal proposals,

14590
07:46:31,902 --> 07:46:33,336
we could compare and see what

14591
07:46:33,336 --> 07:46:35,472
would be more financially

14592
07:46:35,472 --> 07:46:36,973
beneficial to the district.

14593
07:46:36,973 --> 07:46:38,410
>> So DR. Holness, just so I'm

14594
07:46:38,410 --> 07:46:39,843
hearing this correctly, you

14595
07:46:39,843 --> 07:46:41,277
want to pursue option three, or

14596
07:46:41,277 --> 07:46:43,460
you're wanting to pursue option

14597
07:46:43,460 --> 07:46:44,114
one and option three

14598
07:46:44,114 --> 07:46:45,883
simultaneously.

14599
07:46:45,883 --> 07:46:47,751
>> I would say option one and

14600
07:46:47,751 --> 07:46:49,860
option three simultaneously to

14601
07:46:49,860 --> 07:46:50,954
determine which one is more

14602
07:46:50,954 --> 07:46:52,954
financially beneficial.

14603
07:46:53,124 --> 07:46:55,524
>> Got it. Thank you.

14604
07:46:55,526 --> 07:46:57,526
>> Okay. Now regarding

14605
07:46:58,495 --> 07:47:01,431
regarding North Fork, I am very

14606
07:47:01,431 --> 07:47:04,431
supportive of the North Fork

14607
07:47:05,302 --> 07:47:07,702
Sistrunk rising proposals and

14608
07:47:08,672 --> 07:47:12,176
it's very nice to see that they

14609
07:47:12,176 --> 07:47:13,811
came back with minor changes,

14610
07:47:13,811 --> 07:47:16,811
but beneficial changes in terms

14611
07:47:17,314 --> 07:47:18,415
of increasing the the space for

14612
07:47:18,415 --> 07:47:20,851
as a training center for

14613
07:47:20,851 --> 07:47:23,200
Broward County Public Schools.

14614
07:47:23,200 --> 07:47:25,856
I was very pleased as well to

14615
07:47:25,856 --> 07:47:27,258
see that they came with a lease

14616
07:47:27,258 --> 07:47:29,493
option, because I don't think

14617
07:47:29,493 --> 07:47:32,696
any of us on the board had an

14618
07:47:32,696 --> 07:47:34,565
appetite for $1 lease or $0

14619
07:47:34,565 --> 07:47:36,501
lease. So it's very nice to see

14620
07:47:36,501 --> 07:47:38,469
that they have this in here. I

14621
07:47:38,469 --> 07:47:40,604
think the benefit of having

14622
07:47:40,604 --> 07:47:43,400
affordable apartments for our

14623
07:47:43,140 --> 07:47:45,310
employees, supply store for

14624
07:47:45,310 --> 07:47:47,310
teachers, counseling centers

14625
07:47:48,579 --> 07:47:50,748
for employees, and we get to

14626
07:47:50,748 --> 07:47:52,116
maintain ownership of the land.

14627
07:47:52,116 --> 07:47:53,383
And we don't have to worry

14628
07:47:53,383 --> 07:47:55,819
about the maintenance costs for

14629
07:47:55,819 --> 07:47:57,922
the facility. I think these are

14630
07:47:57,922 --> 07:48:00,424
excellent benefits, and I would

14631
07:48:00,424 --> 07:48:02,994
encourage my board members to

14632
07:48:02,994 --> 07:48:04,428
also support this proposal, and

14633
07:48:04,428 --> 07:48:06,564
I am very supportive of moving

14634
07:48:06,564 --> 07:48:08,699
forward with it. And, MADAM

14635
07:48:08,699 --> 07:48:09,933
Chair, I think did you need my

14636
07:48:09,933 --> 07:48:11,636
input on anything else, MADAM

14637
07:48:11,636 --> 07:48:13,538
Chair, or we're going to take

14638
07:48:13,538 --> 07:48:15,538
second round.

14639
07:48:15,873 --> 07:48:18,273
>> Doctor Wanza, says Margaret.

14640
07:48:19,510 --> 07:48:21,712
>> So on on page 37 is what we

14641
07:48:21,712 --> 07:48:24,712
need. Direction from the board.

14642
07:48:25,316 --> 07:48:28,190
Slide 37. So so that covered

14643
07:48:28,190 --> 07:48:29,287
three of the definite five of

14644
07:48:29,287 --> 07:48:30,121
the items that we actually.

14645
07:48:30,121 --> 07:48:31,856
Because we're going to need

14646
07:48:31,856 --> 07:48:33,991
some direction on the Margate

14647
07:48:33,991 --> 07:48:35,326
Middle proposal as well as the

14648
07:48:35,326 --> 07:48:36,394
easement at Deerfield Beach

14649
07:48:36,394 --> 07:48:37,561
Elementary. We definitely need

14650
07:48:37,561 --> 07:48:38,796
direction on that. And then

14651
07:48:38,796 --> 07:48:41,532
obviously, any input the board

14652
07:48:41,532 --> 07:48:43,268
wants to give us on what they

14653
07:48:43,268 --> 07:48:45,737
want to see in the presentation

14654
07:48:45,737 --> 07:48:47,737
for JULY 21st.

14655
07:48:48,373 --> 07:48:50,410
>> Okay, so, MADAM Chair, I

14656
07:48:50,410 --> 07:48:52,243
will wait for the board to

14657
07:48:52,243 --> 07:48:54,713
comment further on Margate and

14658
07:48:54,713 --> 07:48:57,113
Deerfield, especially those if

14659
07:48:57,415 --> 07:48:59,484
MISS Rupert is still here. I'm

14660
07:48:59,484 --> 07:49:01,180
not sure. I can't see he's not

14661
07:49:01,180 --> 07:49:02,854
okay. So I wait for further

14662
07:49:02,854 --> 07:49:04,556
input and I'll give my input on

14663
07:49:04,556 --> 07:49:06,556
Deerfield and Margate.

14664
07:49:08,826 --> 07:49:11,826
>> Okay. All right. Other board

14665
07:49:12,764 --> 07:49:14,764
discussion. MISS Bulman.

14666
07:49:18,202 --> 07:49:21,173
>> Thanks. Thank you. Chair. I

14667
07:49:21,173 --> 07:49:23,573
support the Sistrunk rising

14668
07:49:28,120 --> 07:49:29,414
proposal. I support the Eagles

14669
07:49:29,414 --> 07:49:30,916
Haven. That's a great solution.

14670
07:49:30,916 --> 07:49:35,116
Thank you so much for coming up

14671
07:49:36,555 --> 07:49:39,191
with that, I love that. And I

14672
07:49:39,191 --> 07:49:41,326
think I, I think I kind of fall

14673
07:49:41,326 --> 07:49:44,926
in the wholeness camp in terms

14674
07:49:46,698 --> 07:49:47,899
of seagull. You know, with

14675
07:49:47,899 --> 07:49:49,701
option one, it's like, what's

14676
07:49:49,701 --> 07:49:50,669
the cost to us to do something

14677
07:49:50,669 --> 07:49:52,371
like this? And what would be

14678
07:49:52,371 --> 07:49:54,173
the payoff? I guess we don't

14679
07:49:54,173 --> 07:49:55,741
have enough information at this

14680
07:49:55,741 --> 07:49:58,176
point. Did you guys just say

14681
07:49:58,176 --> 07:50:00,176
that?

14682
07:50:01,446 --> 07:50:02,881
>> Chief Greg? So, Chief

14683
07:50:02,881 --> 07:50:04,383
Gregory, can you expand? So,

14684
07:50:04,383 --> 07:50:06,850
MISS, MISS Bowman's question is

14685
07:50:06,850 --> 07:50:07,219
for option one. So I was

14686
07:50:07,219 --> 07:50:08,953
obviously option one of the

14687
07:50:08,953 --> 07:50:10,722
Seagull property is for the

14688
07:50:10,722 --> 07:50:11,824
district safety and Security

14689
07:50:11,824 --> 07:50:13,692
Emergency Preparedness

14690
07:50:13,692 --> 07:50:15,427
Preparedness Division to build

14691
07:50:15,427 --> 07:50:17,429
out its own training center. So

14692
07:50:17,429 --> 07:50:18,597
what is the cost. But then and

14693
07:50:18,597 --> 07:50:20,650
then what would be the return

14694
07:50:20,650 --> 07:50:20,732
on investment for the district

14695
07:50:20,732 --> 07:50:22,534
if we went that route?

14696
07:50:22,534 --> 07:50:23,569
>> I can start with the return

14697
07:50:23,569 --> 07:50:24,370
on investment that would be

14698
07:50:24,370 --> 07:50:25,437
increased, increasing the

14699
07:50:25,437 --> 07:50:26,572
safety of students on our

14700
07:50:26,572 --> 07:50:27,739
campuses, in our schools,

14701
07:50:27,739 --> 07:50:29,739
increasing the training

14702
07:50:30,175 --> 07:50:31,677
abilities and received from the

14703
07:50:31,677 --> 07:50:33,412
officers who patrol our schools.

14704
07:50:33,412 --> 07:50:34,913
This is not a money making

14705
07:50:34,913 --> 07:50:35,981
opportunity. I would shy the

14706
07:50:35,981 --> 07:50:37,816
board away from thinking that

14707
07:50:37,816 --> 07:50:39,885
this is a a get rich quick

14708
07:50:39,885 --> 07:50:41,386
scheme for training facility at

14709
07:50:41,386 --> 07:50:43,355
Seagull. If that's the goal,

14710
07:50:43,355 --> 07:50:46,324
then we should look at a

14711
07:50:46,324 --> 07:50:47,860
different option.

14712
07:50:47,860 --> 07:50:49,228
>> Well, it says generate

14713
07:50:49,228 --> 07:50:51,628
revenue. That's why I.

14714
07:50:52,130 --> 07:50:53,265
Corrected for what kind of

14715
07:50:53,265 --> 07:50:54,433
revenue it would be.

14716
07:50:54,433 --> 07:50:56,869
>> Yeah, the cities would pay

14717
07:50:56,869 --> 07:51:01,690
for the classes. But as far as

14718
07:51:01,139 --> 07:51:02,942
a high level, high income

14719
07:51:02,942 --> 07:51:05,770
source, I don't see training

14720
07:51:05,770 --> 07:51:07,477
facilities for safety filling

14721
07:51:09,182 --> 07:51:11,182
in that category.

14722
07:51:11,650 --> 07:51:12,684
>> Okay. I have a question.

14723
07:51:12,684 --> 07:51:13,919
>> I mean.

14724
07:51:13,919 --> 07:51:14,287
>> Is there any construction

14725
07:51:14,287 --> 07:51:15,721
cost required.

14726
07:51:15,721 --> 07:51:16,889
>> In order? Well, that's what

14727
07:51:16,889 --> 07:51:17,923
I'm asking. I mean, if we're

14728
07:51:17,923 --> 07:51:19,570
going to have to build a

14729
07:51:19,570 --> 07:51:20,693
training facility, what's our

14730
07:51:20,693 --> 07:51:21,928
capital outlay in order to get

14731
07:51:21,928 --> 07:51:23,696
to a point where we're getting

14732
07:51:23,696 --> 07:51:24,931
any kind of revenue at all? And

14733
07:51:24,931 --> 07:51:26,766
then how long would it take for

14734
07:51:26,766 --> 07:51:28,501
our revenue coming in to pay

14735
07:51:28,501 --> 07:51:29,334
off what we put into it? And

14736
07:51:29,334 --> 07:51:30,669
then.

14737
07:51:30,669 --> 07:51:32,571
>> At this stage, we haven't

14738
07:51:32,571 --> 07:51:34,740
had a revenue cost. This is a

14739
07:51:34,740 --> 07:51:36,175
new proposal for us to explore

14740
07:51:36,175 --> 07:51:37,543
so we could identify that.

14741
07:51:37,543 --> 07:51:38,611
Right now it's in a school

14742
07:51:38,611 --> 07:51:39,712
configuration, and that

14743
07:51:39,712 --> 07:51:41,347
configuration is what would be

14744
07:51:41,347 --> 07:51:42,281
used for the active shooter

14745
07:51:42,281 --> 07:51:44,160
training, where officers would

14746
07:51:44,160 --> 07:51:45,417
come in and go room to room to

14747
07:51:45,417 --> 07:51:47,253
room clearings, dodo r rm

14748
07:51:47,253 --> 07:51:49,455
searches, do rescueses So the

14749
07:51:49,455 --> 07:51:50,890
currt configuguration would b

14750
07:51:50,890 --> 07:51:53,580
apprriatateor t tt.T.

14751
07:51:53,580 --> 07:51:54,127
Additial training areas for

14752
07:51:54,127 --> 07:51:55,962
classroom instruction for the

14753
07:51:55,962 --> 07:51:57,530
officers who participate. I

14754
07:51:57,530 --> 07:51:58,564
haven't gone room by room, but

14755
07:51:58,564 --> 07:51:59,632
I assume that most of the

14756
07:51:59,632 --> 07:52:00,800
classroom facilities would be

14757
07:52:00,800 --> 07:52:02,568
acceptable for that type of use.

14758
07:52:02,568 --> 07:52:03,469
I don't see a large capital

14759
07:52:03,469 --> 07:52:05,869
outlay required, but again,

14760
07:52:06,373 --> 07:52:07,407
this is an initial exploratory

14761
07:52:07,407 --> 07:52:08,942
conversation and we can

14762
07:52:08,942 --> 07:52:11,477
actually go back and do more

14763
07:52:11,477 --> 07:52:12,846
detailed exploration. If it's

14764
07:52:12,846 --> 07:52:14,580
something that the board is

14765
07:52:14,580 --> 07:52:15,480
seriously interested in

14766
07:52:15,480 --> 07:52:16,383
pursuing.

14767
07:52:16,383 --> 07:52:17,883
>> Well, I would I would be

14768
07:52:17,883 --> 07:52:19,653
interested in seeing how we

14769
07:52:19,653 --> 07:52:22,155
could partner, you know, what

14770
07:52:22,155 --> 07:52:25,755
the use would be with other

14771
07:52:27,251 --> 07:52:27,372
municipalities and how if we

14772
07:52:27,372 --> 07:52:27,860
could find other partners and

14773
07:52:27,860 --> 07:52:30,860
safety partners that could make

14774
07:52:30,964 --> 07:52:33,299
this very useful to the entire

14775
07:52:33,299 --> 07:52:34,367
county or maybe to the to the

14776
07:52:34,367 --> 07:52:35,502
region, there's there's

14777
07:52:35,502 --> 07:52:37,336
potential there for sure. I

14778
07:52:37,336 --> 07:52:38,772
think we need to flesh out that

14779
07:52:38,772 --> 07:52:40,440
what that deal looks like.

14780
07:52:40,440 --> 07:52:42,108
>> I agree, ideally, we would

14781
07:52:42,108 --> 07:52:43,543
be looking for grant support

14782
07:52:43,543 --> 07:52:44,344
for to fund training. There are

14783
07:52:44,344 --> 07:52:46,213
grant opportunities that are

14784
07:52:46,213 --> 07:52:47,280
out there. I just saw one, I

14785
07:52:47,280 --> 07:52:48,915
believe, from the Department of

14786
07:52:48,915 --> 07:52:50,317
Justice last week, where

14787
07:52:50,317 --> 07:52:51,718
they're offering training

14788
07:52:51,718 --> 07:52:53,553
dollars to host active shooter

14789
07:52:53,553 --> 07:52:55,355
training and Alice type classes.

14790
07:52:55,355 --> 07:52:57,557
We would the concept that we'd

14791
07:52:57,557 --> 07:52:58,892
be the host, and we would offer

14792
07:52:58,892 --> 07:53:00,460
seats at those classes to local

14793
07:53:00,460 --> 07:53:01,828
agencies in Miami-Dade, Broward

14794
07:53:01,828 --> 07:53:03,597
and Palm Beach County. And we'd

14795
07:53:03,597 --> 07:53:05,398
actually have a full blown

14796
07:53:05,398 --> 07:53:08,398
class a school facility to

14797
07:53:08,602 --> 07:53:10,360
actually conduct us real time

14798
07:53:10,360 --> 07:53:11,138
scenario based training for

14799
07:53:11,138 --> 07:53:12,973
those officers. So they have

14800
07:53:12,973 --> 07:53:15,973
best of breed in training.

14801
07:53:16,209 --> 07:53:17,178
Again, it would be hopefully

14802
07:53:17,178 --> 07:53:18,879
funded as much as we could for

14803
07:53:18,879 --> 07:53:20,580
the courses through grants, but

14804
07:53:20,580 --> 07:53:21,614
we're not. We look for the

14805
07:53:21,614 --> 07:53:23,516
students from the other

14806
07:53:23,516 --> 07:53:25,352
agencies to pay for seats in

14807
07:53:25,352 --> 07:53:26,720
the class to participate, and

14808
07:53:26,720 --> 07:53:28,855
it's a rare opportunity to have

14809
07:53:28,855 --> 07:53:30,658
a facility such as that to do

14810
07:53:30,658 --> 07:53:32,459
real scenario based training.

14811
07:53:32,459 --> 07:53:34,394
So I see it would be a great

14812
07:53:34,394 --> 07:53:35,362
amount of interest periodically

14813
07:53:35,362 --> 07:53:36,863
for agencies to come there and

14814
07:53:36,863 --> 07:53:38,832
take different types of courses.

14815
07:53:38,832 --> 07:53:40,768
But as a training facility, I

14816
07:53:40,768 --> 07:53:43,237
just don't see a large see it

14817
07:53:43,237 --> 07:53:44,271
as a large revenue generator.

14818
07:53:44,271 --> 07:53:45,773
We would look certainly to

14819
07:53:45,773 --> 07:53:47,374
break even, but without.

14820
07:53:47,374 --> 07:53:48,542
>> Yeah, I mean, I think that's

14821
07:53:48,542 --> 07:53:49,709
what we would like to see. I

14822
07:53:49,709 --> 07:53:51,478
mean, at the very least that

14823
07:53:51,478 --> 07:53:52,513
this isn't going to cost us

14824
07:53:52,513 --> 07:53:53,647
more money because I think

14825
07:53:53,647 --> 07:53:55,782
we're trying to save money, not

14826
07:53:55,782 --> 07:53:58,252
spend more money. So and then

14827
07:53:58,252 --> 07:53:59,720
with the option two, and I

14828
07:53:59,720 --> 07:54:00,587
apologize if I if this has

14829
07:54:00,587 --> 07:54:02,987
already been answered, but

14830
07:54:03,390 --> 07:54:05,192
there's not a need for extra

14831
07:54:05,192 --> 07:54:07,728
district room. Okay. So I, you

14832
07:54:07,728 --> 07:54:09,262
know, I, I would like to see

14833
07:54:09,262 --> 07:54:10,364
option one fleshed out so that

14834
07:54:10,364 --> 07:54:12,299
we have something to really

14835
07:54:12,299 --> 07:54:14,802
make a decision about. And then

14836
07:54:14,802 --> 07:54:18,402
I'm also open to option three

14837
07:54:18,539 --> 07:54:22,739
for that. And let me go back

14838
07:54:31,850 --> 07:54:32,820
here. And then I, I'll wait to

14839
07:54:32,820 --> 07:54:33,955
hear from everyone else or I'd

14840
07:54:33,955 --> 07:54:35,922
like to hear from MISS Rupert

14841
07:54:35,922 --> 07:54:38,922
about her positions on Margate

14842
07:54:39,694 --> 07:54:42,940
and Deerfield. I don't.

14843
07:54:42,262 --> 07:54:44,332
>> Is MISS Rupert on the line?

14844
07:54:44,332 --> 07:54:44,765
>> No, she's in the hospital,

14845
07:54:44,765 --> 07:54:46,567
so.

14846
07:54:46,567 --> 07:54:48,168
>> But before she left, she did

14847
07:54:48,168 --> 07:54:49,370
say that she MAY have to leave,

14848
07:54:49,370 --> 07:54:52,370
but she did. Go ahead.

14849
07:54:53,708 --> 07:54:55,676
>> No, I was going to speak. I.

14850
07:54:55,676 --> 07:54:57,712
MR. Bruno, I don't know if it's

14851
07:54:57,712 --> 07:54:59,513
appropriate, but what we talked

14852
07:54:59,513 --> 07:55:01,382
about in one on one, and I did

14853
07:55:01,382 --> 07:55:04,585
hear her support for one thing,

14854
07:55:04,585 --> 07:55:07,388
but she did exercise her

14855
07:55:07,388 --> 07:55:09,256
support for both Deerfield and

14856
07:55:09,256 --> 07:55:11,493
Margate. When we spoke

14857
07:55:11,493 --> 07:55:12,560
yesterday, or I guess that was

14858
07:55:12,560 --> 07:55:14,695
yesterday. Yes, yesterday was

14859
07:55:14,695 --> 07:55:16,970
Monday, just fyi. I know it's

14860
07:55:16,970 --> 07:55:17,465
not official for the board, but

14861
07:55:17,465 --> 07:55:19,333
just to give you a workshop.

14862
07:55:19,333 --> 07:55:20,468
Yeah. Give you feedback of what

14863
07:55:20,468 --> 07:55:22,360
she supported when we when we

14864
07:55:22,360 --> 07:55:23,300
spoke. And I know she's she.

14865
07:55:23,300 --> 07:55:24,720
>> Spoke publicly before she

14866
07:55:24,720 --> 07:55:25,773
left here today.

14867
07:55:25,773 --> 07:55:26,508
>> For Margate for sure. Yes,

14868
07:55:26,508 --> 07:55:27,308
yes.

14869
07:55:27,308 --> 07:55:28,943
>> For what.

14870
07:55:28,943 --> 07:55:31,313
>> She said. Oh she said yes

14871
07:55:31,313 --> 07:55:33,140
for, for a pause on Margate

14872
07:55:33,140 --> 07:55:34,816
with the idea of a, of a

14873
07:55:34,816 --> 07:55:37,216
replacement of a replacement

14874
07:55:38,520 --> 07:55:40,554
school and yes, for the

14875
07:55:40,554 --> 07:55:41,623
easement for Deerfield Beach.

14876
07:55:41,623 --> 07:55:43,240
Yep.

14877
07:55:43,240 --> 07:55:45,326
>> So we're so we're right now

14878
07:55:45,326 --> 07:55:47,828
we're just directing to pause

14879
07:55:47,828 --> 07:55:49,497
on further renovations at

14880
07:55:49,497 --> 07:55:50,932
Margate Middle. And then we

14881
07:55:50,932 --> 07:55:52,768
would decide later if we were

14882
07:55:52,768 --> 07:55:54,269
going to do a replacement.

14883
07:55:54,269 --> 07:55:55,504
>> Correct.

14884
07:55:55,504 --> 07:55:56,404
>> Do you want to speak? Go

14885
07:55:56,404 --> 07:55:58,404
ahead.

14886
07:55:58,940 --> 07:56:00,375
>> Well, yeah. Mark Dorset,

14887
07:56:00,375 --> 07:56:02,143
chief facility officer, task

14888
07:56:02,143 --> 07:56:04,746
assigned. Yeah, that was one of

14889
07:56:04,746 --> 07:56:07,181
the requests. But based on what

14890
07:56:07,181 --> 07:56:09,317
we were looking to spend in

14891
07:56:09,317 --> 07:56:11,553
Margate, we thought it would be

14892
07:56:11,553 --> 07:56:14,856
beneficial to, to, to look at

14893
07:56:14,856 --> 07:56:17,250
another possibility. Right now

14894
07:56:17,250 --> 07:56:19,861
the school is functioning. It's

14895
07:56:19,861 --> 07:56:21,596
an old school. It was built in

14896
07:56:21,596 --> 07:56:24,232
1966. So whatever we do to it,

14897
07:56:24,232 --> 07:56:26,902
it'll still be a 66 building.

14898
07:56:26,902 --> 07:56:30,502
So what we thought about doing

14899
07:56:30,639 --> 07:56:32,307
is looking at replacing Margate

14900
07:56:32,307 --> 07:56:35,307
Middle School. That that was

14901
07:56:35,543 --> 07:56:37,120
the discussion we had with the

14902
07:56:37,120 --> 07:56:39,412
redefining team with Doctor

14903
07:56:39,481 --> 07:56:41,383
Wanza and some of the my team

14904
07:56:41,383 --> 07:56:43,518
from Office of Capital Programs.

14905
07:56:43,518 --> 07:56:46,540
We really, really looked into

14906
07:56:46,540 --> 07:56:47,823
what they've done so far, what

14907
07:56:47,823 --> 07:56:49,424
they're asking for additional

14908
07:56:49,424 --> 07:56:51,760
dollars to do. And we didn't

14909
07:56:51,760 --> 07:56:54,290
think it was prudent to pursue

14910
07:56:54,290 --> 07:56:57,232
that any further. We thought we

14911
07:56:57,232 --> 07:57:00,135
would stop now and look at a

14912
07:57:00,135 --> 07:57:02,237
different way of, of, of, of

14913
07:57:02,237 --> 07:57:02,604
supporting the kids at Margate

14914
07:57:02,604 --> 07:57:04,390
Middle.

14915
07:57:04,390 --> 07:57:05,807
>> And I appreciate that. So

14916
07:57:05,807 --> 07:57:07,643
thank you for that. Is this a

14917
07:57:07,643 --> 07:57:10,145
is this the type of project

14918
07:57:10,145 --> 07:57:11,914
where we can continue to have

14919
07:57:11,914 --> 07:57:13,415
the kids at school while we're

14920
07:57:13,415 --> 07:57:14,783
building other buildings?

14921
07:57:14,783 --> 07:57:16,718
>> Yes. The school right now

14922
07:57:16,718 --> 07:57:20,622
can function as it is this the

14923
07:57:20,622 --> 07:57:23,391
the site has enough real estate

14924
07:57:23,391 --> 07:57:25,791
to build another complete

14925
07:57:25,961 --> 07:57:28,430
middle school on site, while

14926
07:57:28,430 --> 07:57:28,830
the occupy the existing

14927
07:57:28,830 --> 07:57:30,232
building.

14928
07:57:30,232 --> 07:57:32,134
>> Okay. All right, I, I don't

14929
07:57:32,134 --> 07:57:35,337
object to that. And then the

14930
07:57:35,337 --> 07:57:36,439
Deerfield Beach. Can you just

14931
07:57:36,439 --> 07:57:38,607
explain that real quick?

14932
07:57:38,607 --> 07:57:40,800
>> Sure. So so Deerfield Beach

14933
07:57:40,800 --> 07:57:41,477
Elementary School is a large

14934
07:57:41,477 --> 07:57:43,877
footprint, but there's a

14935
07:57:44,446 --> 07:57:47,182
parking lot area that the that

14936
07:57:47,182 --> 07:57:49,384
has been rented by the district,

14937
07:57:49,384 --> 07:57:50,986
rented from the district for

14938
07:57:50,986 --> 07:57:53,355
decades for parking space for

14939
07:57:53,355 --> 07:57:55,191
the library. That's right there.

14940
07:57:55,191 --> 07:57:56,692
And I kind of put the map.

14941
07:57:56,692 --> 07:57:58,692
>> On slide 29.

14942
07:57:58,695 --> 07:58:00,596
>> And so basically they

14943
07:58:00,596 --> 07:58:01,597
instead of entering an

14944
07:58:01,597 --> 07:58:03,466
agreement, every single or

14945
07:58:03,466 --> 07:58:06,102
every so many years for that

14946
07:58:06,102 --> 07:58:07,769
space for parking the, the city

14947
07:58:07,769 --> 07:58:10,169
is interested in purchasing

14948
07:58:10,239 --> 07:58:13,839
that shaded area at the bottom

14949
07:58:13,876 --> 07:58:15,440
right for the parking for the

14950
07:58:15,440 --> 07:58:16,112
library.

14951
07:58:16,112 --> 07:58:18,881
>> Okay. Yeah, I have no

14952
07:58:18,881 --> 07:58:21,417
problem with that. I support

14953
07:58:21,417 --> 07:58:23,520
that. Thank you.

14954
07:58:23,520 --> 07:58:24,219
>> Thank you. DR. Zeman.

14955
07:58:24,219 --> 07:58:25,888
>> Thanks so much. I'll I'll

14956
07:58:25,888 --> 07:58:27,490
start with yours, Maura, that

14957
07:58:27,490 --> 07:58:30,226
you just finished with just in

14958
07:58:30,226 --> 07:58:32,626
general, bad business practice

14959
07:58:32,628 --> 07:58:33,696
to sell land. If they're happy

14960
07:58:33,696 --> 07:58:35,497
with the rental and they're

14961
07:58:35,497 --> 07:58:36,565
going to do it every year, it's

14962
07:58:36,565 --> 07:58:38,334
really better for Broward

14963
07:58:38,334 --> 07:58:39,469
County schools to own the land,

14964
07:58:39,469 --> 07:58:41,504
particularly every time you

14965
07:58:41,504 --> 07:58:43,406
give up a little bit, the value

14966
07:58:43,406 --> 07:58:45,875
of land is disproportionate to

14967
07:58:45,875 --> 07:58:47,210
the total size. So if you take

14968
07:58:47,210 --> 07:58:47,810
210 acre plots and put them

14969
07:58:47,810 --> 07:58:49,345
together, they're worth four

14970
07:58:49,345 --> 07:58:50,546
times as much as they were

14971
07:58:50,546 --> 07:58:52,415
separately. So just as a

14972
07:58:52,415 --> 07:58:53,483
principle, I wouldn't be in

14973
07:58:53,483 --> 07:58:54,650
favor of this because if it

14974
07:58:54,650 --> 07:58:57,153
ain't broken, why do we want to

14975
07:58:57,153 --> 07:58:58,287
fix it on Seagull? You know,

14976
07:58:58,287 --> 07:58:59,989
Seagull is a really interesting

14977
07:58:59,989 --> 07:59:01,524
piece. Again, total business

14978
07:59:01,524 --> 07:59:04,193
practice type thing. It is

14979
07:59:04,193 --> 07:59:06,620
contiguous with Witten. Witten

14980
07:59:06,620 --> 07:59:07,300
has amazing programs. We're

14981
07:59:07,300 --> 07:59:08,864
always going to offer those

14982
07:59:08,864 --> 07:59:09,632
programs. They MAY actually be

14983
07:59:09,632 --> 07:59:11,434
better somewhere else someday

14984
07:59:11,434 --> 07:59:13,202
though. And Witten and Seagull

14985
07:59:13,202 --> 07:59:14,470
together again becomes a much

14986
07:59:14,470 --> 07:59:16,390
more valuable piece of land.

14987
07:59:16,390 --> 07:59:17,206
It's in a commercial space,

14988
07:59:17,206 --> 07:59:18,741
commercial space, a lot more

14989
07:59:18,741 --> 07:59:19,709
valuable right now than

14990
07:59:19,709 --> 07:59:20,743
especially light industrial

14991
07:59:20,743 --> 07:59:22,245
space. Much more valuable than

14992
07:59:22,245 --> 07:59:23,446
residential. Right, Ryan? We

14993
07:59:23,446 --> 07:59:25,181
can make more money doing that.

14994
07:59:25,181 --> 07:59:26,950
I know you're nodding for me.

14995
07:59:26,950 --> 07:59:27,984
Thanks, Ryan. But the but we

14996
07:59:27,984 --> 07:59:29,886
have to be thoughtful about it.

14997
07:59:29,886 --> 07:59:34,860
That's why I like the idea of

14998
07:59:35,191 --> 07:59:36,726
using option two at at Seagull.

14999
07:59:36,726 --> 07:59:38,362
If you can use three with the

15000
07:59:38,362 --> 07:59:40,196
chief and not put in any money

15001
07:59:40,196 --> 07:59:41,965
and just. It's almost whether

15002
07:59:41,965 --> 07:59:42,933
you put office space there or

15003
07:59:42,933 --> 07:59:44,000
you put public service center

15004
07:59:44,000 --> 07:59:45,368
with no improvements, no

15005
07:59:45,368 --> 07:59:46,302
capital improvements, I think

15006
07:59:46,302 --> 07:59:48,605
that's great. There is a

15007
07:59:48,605 --> 07:59:50,730
boatload of federal money

15008
07:59:50,730 --> 07:59:51,410
available for law enforcement

15009
07:59:51,410 --> 07:59:52,341
training, and there's just not

15010
07:59:52,341 --> 07:59:54,411
enough sites in the world. So

15011
07:59:54,411 --> 07:59:55,945
if we have a site, you can come

15012
07:59:55,945 --> 07:59:56,979
in and do the cool stuff, you

15013
07:59:56,979 --> 07:59:58,480
know, the close quarter drills,

15014
07:59:58,480 --> 07:59:59,480
the little people that pop up

15015
07:59:59,480 --> 08:00:00,116
around the corner and

15016
08:00:00,116 --> 08:00:01,919
everything, that could be great

15017
08:00:01,919 --> 08:00:03,954
for us and great for our kids

15018
08:00:03,954 --> 08:00:05,355
everywhere, because SROs and

15019
08:00:05,355 --> 08:00:07,224
local police and Bsos can all

15020
08:00:07,224 --> 08:00:08,625
practice in a school site. So

15021
08:00:08,625 --> 08:00:09,826
that's not a bad option, nor is

15022
08:00:09,826 --> 08:00:11,828
it a bad option for Doctor

15023
08:00:11,828 --> 08:00:13,297
Hepburn to move a another

15024
08:00:13,297 --> 08:00:14,964
division to that site. But if

15025
08:00:14,964 --> 08:00:16,966
we hold on to that land for a

15026
08:00:16,966 --> 08:00:18,135
year or two, we can figure out

15027
08:00:18,135 --> 08:00:20,103
what to do with Witten as we

15028
08:00:20,103 --> 08:00:21,137
get the fca done. As we get our

15029
08:00:21,137 --> 08:00:22,205
master planner here. Boy, I

15030
08:00:22,205 --> 08:00:23,907
cannot wait for the master

15031
08:00:23,907 --> 08:00:25,750
planner to show up, because

15032
08:00:25,750 --> 08:00:27,310
right now I feel like we're

15033
08:00:27,310 --> 08:00:28,712
pausing on Margate Middle. I

15034
08:00:28,712 --> 08:00:30,514
definitely agree with you.

15035
08:00:30,514 --> 08:00:31,882
Pause. Let's get a real if you

15036
08:00:31,882 --> 08:00:33,830
don't mind, I'm just going to

15037
08:00:33,830 --> 08:00:34,484
add to your recommendation.

15038
08:00:34,484 --> 08:00:35,919
Let's pause on Margate Middle,

15039
08:00:35,919 --> 08:00:37,321
but let's get like a good

15040
08:00:37,321 --> 08:00:38,756
estimate of what it would cost

15041
08:00:38,756 --> 08:00:40,323
to build a good one. Not within

15042
08:00:40,323 --> 08:00:41,859
20 million, but within 5

15043
08:00:41,859 --> 08:00:42,893
million, so that we actually

15044
08:00:42,893 --> 08:00:44,228
know what we're committing to

15045
08:00:44,228 --> 08:00:45,329
that site. My understanding of

15046
08:00:45,329 --> 08:00:46,329
Margate Middle is there's

15047
08:00:46,329 --> 08:00:48,980
plenty of students in the

15048
08:00:48,980 --> 08:00:49,433
boundary area. They just choose

15049
08:00:49,433 --> 08:00:51,535
to go to other schools because

15050
08:00:51,535 --> 08:00:52,503
that facility is. I'm a little

15051
08:00:52,503 --> 08:00:54,370
offended, Mark, that you said

15052
08:00:54,370 --> 08:00:57,370
things invented in 1966 are no

15053
08:00:57,574 --> 08:01:00,810
good anymore. But but I'll let

15054
08:01:00,810 --> 08:01:03,470
that slide today. So that's

15055
08:01:03,470 --> 08:01:04,948
great. On the trail's end site,

15056
08:01:04,948 --> 08:01:07,284
I want to thank Broward Health.

15057
08:01:07,284 --> 08:01:09,253
I want to thank MISS Hixon and

15058
08:01:09,253 --> 08:01:11,588
MISS Alhadeff for everybody

15059
08:01:11,588 --> 08:01:13,324
that came together from Jafco

15060
08:01:13,324 --> 08:01:15,192
to to really put this together.

15061
08:01:15,192 --> 08:01:16,961
Thank you, Cindy, for coming.

15062
08:01:16,961 --> 08:01:18,596
And thank you for your support

15063
08:01:18,596 --> 08:01:19,864
to this from the very beginning

15064
08:01:19,864 --> 08:01:22,132
and to your support to all of

15065
08:01:22,132 --> 08:01:24,936
our kids in so many programs.

15066
08:01:24,936 --> 08:01:26,270
But that is a good deal for us.

15067
08:01:26,270 --> 08:01:28,172
What you what you love about

15068
08:01:28,172 --> 08:01:29,473
this deal. By the way, Maura,

15069
08:01:29,473 --> 08:01:31,509
14 million in the bank in the

15070
08:01:31,509 --> 08:01:32,877
next 60 days. And it's all

15071
08:01:32,877 --> 08:01:33,944
capital money. So it's you know,

15072
08:01:33,944 --> 08:01:35,813
we've got capital money, but

15073
08:01:35,813 --> 08:01:36,781
it's great to have $14 million

15074
08:01:36,781 --> 08:01:38,615
quickly from Broward Health

15075
08:01:38,615 --> 08:01:40,170
rather than to wait around

15076
08:01:40,170 --> 08:01:41,685
forever. To my knowledge,

15077
08:01:41,685 --> 08:01:42,853
Doctor Hepburn, that money is

15078
08:01:42,853 --> 08:01:44,550
going to move pretty fast as

15079
08:01:44,550 --> 08:01:45,857
soon as we get the contract

15080
08:01:45,857 --> 08:01:46,900
signed. I think they have 30 or

15081
08:01:46,900 --> 08:01:46,990
60 days.

15082
08:01:46,990 --> 08:01:48,125
>> Yes. Correct.

15083
08:01:48,125 --> 08:01:49,226
>> So that's terrific. Look

15084
08:01:49,226 --> 08:01:51,626
forward to to helping.

15085
08:01:51,829 --> 08:01:54,398
>> This 120. Okay. I know it's

15086
08:01:54,398 --> 08:01:56,334
a 30 days for something in.

15087
08:01:56,334 --> 08:01:57,568
>> The but it's not 60 days. I

15088
08:01:57,568 --> 08:01:59,404
just don't want us to walk away.

15089
08:01:59,404 --> 08:02:01,500
Think okay, correct. Okay.

15090
08:02:01,500 --> 08:02:02,539
>> I am confident that Broward

15091
08:02:02,539 --> 08:02:04,410
Health is going to write us a

15092
08:02:04,410 --> 08:02:05,943
check even faster than the the

15093
08:02:05,943 --> 08:02:07,345
minimum requirement. They're

15094
08:02:07,345 --> 08:02:08,779
afraid some crazy school board

15095
08:02:08,779 --> 08:02:09,814
member will haul them in here

15096
08:02:09,814 --> 08:02:12,814
to negotiate again or something.

15097
08:02:13,184 --> 08:02:14,552
So am I right, Dave, am I right?

15098
08:02:14,552 --> 08:02:16,254
Thank you sir, I appreciate

15099
08:02:16,254 --> 08:02:17,722
that. Yeah. We can negotiate

15100
08:02:17,722 --> 08:02:21,322
the payment terms if you like.

15101
08:02:21,426 --> 08:02:23,594
My colleagues would kill me. So

15102
08:02:23,594 --> 08:02:24,262
we did. We did Deerfield

15103
08:02:24,262 --> 08:02:25,630
Elementary because it just

15104
08:02:25,630 --> 08:02:27,198
doesn't make any sense. And,

15105
08:02:27,198 --> 08:02:30,198
Margaret, what we're asking for,

15106
08:02:30,501 --> 08:02:31,803
MR. Dorset, is to pause this

15107
08:02:31,803 --> 08:02:33,370
change order. Let's get a good

15108
08:02:33,370 --> 08:02:35,140
cost estimate, bring it back to

15109
08:02:35,140 --> 08:02:36,908
the board, and let's figure out

15110
08:02:36,908 --> 08:02:40,508
where we want to go. Love,

15111
08:02:40,512 --> 08:02:42,147
Broward Health North Ft. The

15112
08:02:42,147 --> 08:02:43,315
only thing that I mean, I love

15113
08:02:43,315 --> 08:02:45,150
the Sistrunk rising. Let's rip

15114
08:02:45,150 --> 08:02:46,951
it and rip it. Let's let's go.

15115
08:02:46,951 --> 08:02:48,420
Right. But, but I'm curious

15116
08:02:48,420 --> 08:02:50,221
about the mix of one, two and

15117
08:02:50,221 --> 08:02:51,322
three bedroom. It's been a real

15118
08:02:51,322 --> 08:02:53,124
eyesore for my developer

15119
08:02:53,124 --> 08:02:54,625
friends to get people to do one

15120
08:02:54,625 --> 08:02:56,610
bedroom studios at any price.

15121
08:02:56,610 --> 08:02:57,261
They just don't want them. So I

15122
08:02:57,261 --> 08:02:59,970
would just be careful of the

15123
08:02:59,970 --> 08:03:00,310
mix that you do there. I know

15124
08:03:00,310 --> 08:03:01,366
it's pre-construction so you

15125
08:03:01,366 --> 08:03:03,501
can move things around, but one

15126
08:03:03,501 --> 08:03:04,636
bedroom studio, 600ft!S or

15127
08:03:04,636 --> 08:03:05,704
there's people just don't want

15128
08:03:05,704 --> 08:03:07,338
them. They'd rather have a two

15129
08:03:07,338 --> 08:03:08,673
bedroom and pay a little bit

15130
08:03:08,673 --> 08:03:10,808
more. So I'll just ask you to

15131
08:03:10,808 --> 08:03:12,430
be careful with, you know,

15132
08:03:12,430 --> 08:03:13,711
people that are building in the

15133
08:03:13,711 --> 08:03:15,790
area. The question that I have,

15134
08:03:15,790 --> 08:03:16,848
Doctor Hepburn, is all is this

15135
08:03:16,848 --> 08:03:19,248
are 300 units reserved for

15136
08:03:20,418 --> 08:03:22,818
Broward County school employees.

15137
08:03:23,354 --> 08:03:24,489
>> Not a Wanza.

15138
08:03:24,489 --> 08:03:26,358
>> Do you want to speak? I

15139
08:03:26,358 --> 08:03:27,526
believe I know the answer, but

15140
08:03:27,526 --> 08:03:29,294
go ahead. I don't want to speak

15141
08:03:29,294 --> 08:03:30,362
for you. If it's okay. Can they

15142
08:03:30,362 --> 08:03:30,562
answer the question, MADAM

15143
08:03:30,562 --> 08:03:31,596
Chair?

15144
08:03:31,596 --> 08:03:32,598
>> It's okay. Can talk in any

15145
08:03:32,598 --> 08:03:34,366
of my meetings?

15146
08:03:34,366 --> 08:03:36,668
>> Okay. Thank you. In terms of

15147
08:03:36,668 --> 08:03:38,103
the units, I want to be careful

15148
08:03:38,103 --> 08:03:39,604
about the wording because we're

15149
08:03:39,604 --> 08:03:40,972
trying to make sure we fully

15150
08:03:40,972 --> 08:03:42,808
comply with state laws. And

15151
08:03:42,808 --> 08:03:45,208
state laws were recently

15152
08:03:45,244 --> 08:03:46,745
modified to allow for us to

15153
08:03:46,745 --> 08:03:48,613
provide this preference. Prior

15154
08:03:48,613 --> 08:03:50,482
to that, the Fair Housing Act

15155
08:03:50,482 --> 08:03:51,483
would have essentially mandated

15156
08:03:51,483 --> 08:03:52,650
everyone. So that's the only

15157
08:03:52,650 --> 08:03:55,200
reason I'm being careful about

15158
08:03:55,200 --> 08:03:56,889
the wording. There will be a

15159
08:03:56,889 --> 08:03:58,523
priority preference plan. And

15160
08:03:58,523 --> 08:04:00,425
so what that will mean and what

15161
08:04:00,425 --> 08:04:02,594
we can do legally is we can

15162
08:04:02,594 --> 08:04:04,997
offer first choice for an

15163
08:04:04,997 --> 08:04:06,564
extended period of time to the

15164
08:04:06,564 --> 08:04:07,599
employees that you tell us are

15165
08:04:07,599 --> 08:04:08,967
qualified, whether that process

15166
08:04:08,967 --> 08:04:10,535
is a simple process or an

15167
08:04:10,535 --> 08:04:12,604
extended process, there would

15168
08:04:12,604 --> 08:04:14,906
be a preference. And so any

15169
08:04:14,906 --> 08:04:16,542
unit that's available, the plan

15170
08:04:16,542 --> 08:04:17,776
that I mentioned would

15171
08:04:17,776 --> 08:04:19,978
stipulate the way that we make

15172
08:04:19,978 --> 08:04:21,980
it known to your employees, and

15173
08:04:21,980 --> 08:04:22,915
they would have first choice to

15174
08:04:22,915 --> 08:04:23,782
come. We would stipulate a

15175
08:04:23,782 --> 08:04:24,850
certain period of time, those

15176
08:04:24,850 --> 08:04:27,520
units would be available for

15177
08:04:27,520 --> 08:04:28,420
your employees. That would

15178
08:04:28,420 --> 08:04:30,189
consist, that would continue

15179
08:04:30,189 --> 08:04:31,290
for the entire term of the

15180
08:04:31,290 --> 08:04:33,192
lease. So every unit, every

15181
08:04:33,192 --> 08:04:36,280
time it's available, would be

15182
08:04:36,280 --> 08:04:38,263
made available with a priority

15183
08:04:38,263 --> 08:04:39,865
basis to your employees, to the

15184
08:04:39,865 --> 08:04:41,166
fullest extent of the state

15185
08:04:41,166 --> 08:04:43,301
laws. And the second, the state

15186
08:04:43,301 --> 08:04:44,803
laws allow us to guarantee and

15187
08:04:44,803 --> 08:04:46,171
reserve it and preserve it for

15188
08:04:46,171 --> 08:04:47,473
you. We'll do that as well.

15189
08:04:47,473 --> 08:04:49,208
>> And if we need the lawyers

15190
08:04:49,208 --> 08:04:50,342
that are doing the Dave Thomas

15191
08:04:50,342 --> 08:04:52,211
thing to come talk to you guys

15192
08:04:52,211 --> 08:04:53,279
about how they did it, they're

15193
08:04:53,279 --> 08:04:55,147
they did 100% forever. So we

15194
08:04:55,147 --> 08:04:56,615
can we can give you their phone

15195
08:04:56,615 --> 08:04:58,384
number. We welcome. This is a

15196
08:04:58,384 --> 08:05:00,620
99 year lease. Will this be

15197
08:05:00,620 --> 08:05:02,855
affordable housing for 99 years?

15198
08:05:02,855 --> 08:05:03,856
>> Yes. So we are offering

15199
08:05:03,856 --> 08:05:04,923
perpetuity full term of the

15200
08:05:04,923 --> 08:05:07,393
lease. We will keep it

15201
08:05:07,393 --> 08:05:08,528
affordable. I have the

15202
08:05:08,528 --> 08:05:09,662
developer in the back room, and

15203
08:05:09,662 --> 08:05:11,290
we've confirmed that. They

15204
08:05:11,290 --> 08:05:12,799
actually corrected me and told

15205
08:05:12,799 --> 08:05:13,866
me perpetuity. I said an

15206
08:05:13,866 --> 08:05:15,401
extended period of time and

15207
08:05:15,401 --> 08:05:17,690
they said perpetuity. So thank

15208
08:05:17,690 --> 08:05:18,137
you for as long as we're there.

15209
08:05:18,137 --> 08:05:19,172
>> Yes. Last question. There's

15210
08:05:19,172 --> 08:05:20,373
a clause in here about

15211
08:05:20,373 --> 08:05:22,174
potential purchase of that

15212
08:05:22,174 --> 08:05:25,440
townhouse land. I do not

15213
08:05:25,440 --> 08:05:26,846
support that. I, I appreciate

15214
08:05:26,846 --> 08:05:28,247
the 99 year lease that would

15215
08:05:28,247 --> 08:05:31,247
allow people to move from

15216
08:05:31,584 --> 08:05:32,618
rental to a version of

15217
08:05:32,618 --> 08:05:34,386
ownership, right? With the 90

15218
08:05:34,386 --> 08:05:36,555
year lease without us having to

15219
08:05:36,555 --> 08:05:38,570
give the, the right for you to,

15220
08:05:38,570 --> 08:05:39,259
as a developer to own that land

15221
08:05:39,259 --> 08:05:40,960
and sell it to the people,

15222
08:05:40,960 --> 08:05:41,961
right? There's nothing that

15223
08:05:41,961 --> 08:05:43,629
stops somebody from buying a

15224
08:05:43,629 --> 08:05:44,798
piece of property that's on a

15225
08:05:44,798 --> 08:05:45,931
99 year lease property.

15226
08:05:45,931 --> 08:05:47,666
>> We're not making it. It's

15227
08:05:47,666 --> 08:05:49,435
not a make or break. It's, it's

15228
08:05:49,435 --> 08:05:51,171
important to us. We're going to

15229
08:05:51,171 --> 08:05:53,720
try to figure it out. I think

15230
08:05:53,720 --> 08:05:53,906
your staff, MR. Particularly

15231
08:05:53,906 --> 08:05:55,906
specifically highlighted some

15232
08:05:55,942 --> 08:05:57,743
of the challenges to provide

15233
08:05:57,743 --> 08:05:58,812
homeownership on deeded land. I

15234
08:05:58,812 --> 08:05:59,479
mean, on lease land,

15235
08:05:59,479 --> 08:06:01,514
particularly owned by a

15236
08:06:01,514 --> 08:06:04,217
government agency, as we said

15237
08:06:04,217 --> 08:06:05,818
to him. And we'll say, here is,

15238
08:06:05,818 --> 08:06:08,254
whatever the terms, we will try

15239
08:06:08,254 --> 08:06:09,589
to maximize the opportunity. So

15240
08:06:09,589 --> 08:06:11,358
if and we would like to

15241
08:06:11,358 --> 08:06:12,859
purchase it. But I respect the

15242
08:06:12,859 --> 08:06:14,694
perspective that you've offered.

15243
08:06:14,694 --> 08:06:16,463
If we weren't allowed to

15244
08:06:16,463 --> 08:06:17,898
purchase it, we would go to the

15245
08:06:17,898 --> 08:06:19,832
next best option. And we think

15246
08:06:19,832 --> 08:06:22,669
there are two pathways. One is

15247
08:06:22,669 --> 08:06:24,771
to do as you say, pursue, you

15248
08:06:24,771 --> 08:06:26,500
know, pursuewnership on a 99

15249
08:06:26,500 --> 08:06:27,340
year lease to the extent that

15250
08:06:27,340 --> 08:06:28,675
the banks and the insurance

15251
08:06:28,675 --> 08:06:30,210
companies will approve it. And

15252
08:06:30,210 --> 08:06:31,911
if that's not viable, then we

15253
08:06:31,911 --> 08:06:34,470
would go down the path of

15254
08:06:34,470 --> 08:06:35,582
rental, but still a townhouse

15255
08:06:35,582 --> 08:06:36,549
configuration for a family unit.

15256
08:06:36,549 --> 08:06:37,717
But rental.

15257
08:06:37,717 --> 08:06:39,520
>> I totally understand. I

15258
08:06:39,520 --> 08:06:41,354
appreciate the effort. Last

15259
08:06:41,354 --> 08:06:43,423
question on the public land

15260
08:06:43,423 --> 08:06:45,225
available. That's right now

15261
08:06:45,225 --> 08:06:47,225
potentially of high

15262
08:06:47,761 --> 08:06:49,229
archeological value, regardless

15263
08:06:49,229 --> 08:06:50,831
of what the final determination

15264
08:06:50,831 --> 08:06:52,265
of that is. Do you are you in

15265
08:06:52,265 --> 08:06:53,233
your proposal leaving that to

15266
08:06:53,233 --> 08:06:54,334
be public land?

15267
08:06:54,334 --> 08:06:55,702
>> That's our intent.

15268
08:06:55,702 --> 08:06:57,700
Absolutely terrific. And so

15269
08:06:57,700 --> 08:06:59,500
we've programed it in our site

15270
08:06:59,500 --> 08:07:00,773
plan as public land. We would

15271
08:07:00,773 --> 08:07:01,875
anticipate that the development

15272
08:07:01,875 --> 08:07:03,710
agreement, if we had the good

15273
08:07:03,710 --> 08:07:05,245
grace of the board to negotiate

15274
08:07:05,245 --> 08:07:06,713
the development agreement,

15275
08:07:06,713 --> 08:07:08,715
would include an attachment of

15276
08:07:08,715 --> 08:07:10,884
our master development such

15277
08:07:10,884 --> 08:07:12,219
that no materially significant

15278
08:07:12,219 --> 08:07:14,121
changes could be made without

15279
08:07:14,121 --> 08:07:15,221
us consulting you. And so one

15280
08:07:15,221 --> 08:07:17,323
of our offer is meaningful

15281
08:07:17,323 --> 08:07:19,426
public land. In addition to the

15282
08:07:19,426 --> 08:07:21,826
inclusion of a transportation

15283
08:07:21,862 --> 08:07:23,960
hub, assuming the collaboration

15284
08:07:23,960 --> 08:07:24,231
with the county.

15285
08:07:24,231 --> 08:07:25,332
>> Terrific. And Doctor Hepburn,

15286
08:07:25,332 --> 08:07:26,700
the 5000ft!S of training space

15287
08:07:26,700 --> 08:07:27,768
is of some value to you.

15288
08:07:27,768 --> 08:07:29,369
>> Yes, absolutely.

15289
08:07:29,369 --> 08:07:30,370
>> It's a nice place to get.

15290
08:07:30,370 --> 08:07:31,805
>> Centrally located, easy to

15291
08:07:31,805 --> 08:07:33,841
get off of 95 for many staff.

15292
08:07:33,841 --> 08:07:35,976
>> How many people can fit in

15293
08:07:35,976 --> 08:07:36,944
5000ft!S? Is that 100.

15294
08:07:36,944 --> 08:07:38,944
>> Standing or sitting?

15295
08:07:40,313 --> 08:07:42,149
>> But okay, it's all good.

15296
08:07:42,149 --> 08:07:45,190
Doctor Wanza anything else I

15297
08:07:45,190 --> 08:07:46,219
missed?

15298
08:07:46,219 --> 08:07:47,554
>> I don't think so. Unless

15299
08:07:47,554 --> 08:07:49,389
you're good with the workshop

15300
08:07:49,389 --> 08:07:50,724
topics. What we included on

15301
08:07:50,724 --> 08:07:51,525
slide 36, if you're good with

15302
08:07:51,525 --> 08:07:52,959
those.

15303
08:07:52,959 --> 08:07:54,795
>> And I don't know if you

15304
08:07:54,795 --> 08:07:57,195
mentioned the Deerfield Beach.

15305
08:07:57,631 --> 08:07:58,732
>> He did said that he's in

15306
08:07:58,732 --> 08:08:00,534
Deerfield Beach. You said lease

15307
08:08:00,534 --> 08:08:00,968
do not sell.

15308
08:08:00,968 --> 08:08:02,602
>> Absolutely. Yeah.

15309
08:08:02,602 --> 08:08:05,602
>> We're not. Not in the.

15310
08:08:06,707 --> 08:08:08,750
>> Business right now. I'm

15311
08:08:08,750 --> 08:08:09,476
sorry. Are you asking about

15312
08:08:09,476 --> 08:08:11,378
items on 36.

15313
08:08:11,378 --> 08:08:14,378
>> On slide 36? That's what we

15314
08:08:15,282 --> 08:08:16,750
have right now. Plan to talk

15315
08:08:16,750 --> 08:08:18,352
with the board as we begin, as

15316
08:08:18,352 --> 08:08:19,954
we kick off redefining for next

15317
08:08:19,954 --> 08:08:22,890
school year. And so I didn't

15318
08:08:22,890 --> 08:08:23,190
know if this we just wanted the

15319
08:08:23,190 --> 08:08:24,825
board to know we always like

15320
08:08:24,825 --> 08:08:26,590
the board and to see if the

15321
08:08:26,590 --> 08:08:28,195
board wants to add any other

15322
08:08:28,195 --> 08:08:29,630
topics or look for something

15323
08:08:29,630 --> 08:08:30,798
specific in these items. But we

15324
08:08:30,798 --> 08:08:32,967
just wanted the board to know

15325
08:08:32,967 --> 08:08:33,634
that when we come back on the

15326
08:08:33,634 --> 08:08:35,634
21st of JULY.

15327
08:08:36,537 --> 08:08:38,105
>> The only thing I'd ask is to

15328
08:08:38,105 --> 08:08:39,540
elucidate a little bit more on

15329
08:08:39,540 --> 08:08:41,209
the question that I asked,

15330
08:08:41,209 --> 08:08:41,542
getting us to 110%.

15331
08:08:41,542 --> 08:08:42,643
>> Yes.

15332
08:08:42,643 --> 08:08:44,245
>> I think that the board

15333
08:08:44,245 --> 08:08:46,214
deserves to know what the art

15334
08:08:46,214 --> 08:08:47,515
of the possible is for us to

15335
08:08:47,515 --> 08:08:48,716
redefine how many schools and

15336
08:08:48,716 --> 08:08:50,918
what specific feeder patterns

15337
08:08:50,918 --> 08:08:52,870
would be affected. I'm not

15338
08:08:52,870 --> 08:08:53,721
going to prejudge what this

15339
08:08:53,721 --> 08:08:54,889
board is going to do, but I

15340
08:08:54,889 --> 08:08:56,624
think it's very important for

15341
08:08:56,624 --> 08:08:57,825
the board to know the answer to

15342
08:08:57,825 --> 08:08:58,192
that question in some detail.

15343
08:08:58,192 --> 08:09:00,192
>> I appreciate.

15344
08:09:01,329 --> 08:09:03,297
>> It, thank you ma'am.

15345
08:09:03,297 --> 08:09:05,660
>> DR. Zeman just to to clarify,

15346
08:09:05,660 --> 08:09:07,501
where were you on The Seagull?

15347
08:09:07,501 --> 08:09:10,400
I heard you express interest in

15348
08:09:10,400 --> 08:09:11,172
option two and one.

15349
08:09:11,172 --> 08:09:11,839
>> If they don't have any

15350
08:09:11,839 --> 08:09:13,574
construction requirements, if

15351
08:09:13,574 --> 08:09:14,675
they can just move in as it's

15352
08:09:14,675 --> 08:09:16,177
currently built and do the

15353
08:09:16,177 --> 08:09:17,979
training, that's another way to

15354
08:09:17,979 --> 08:09:19,880
hold on to that land for a year

15355
08:09:19,880 --> 08:09:20,782
until we figure out what to do

15356
08:09:20,782 --> 08:09:23,182
with the contiguous space.

15357
08:09:23,318 --> 08:09:26,487
>> Got it. Okay. Thank you. I

15358
08:09:26,487 --> 08:09:28,487
have MISS Thompson.

15359
08:09:29,124 --> 08:09:32,260
>> Thank you chair, I'll be

15360
08:09:32,260 --> 08:09:34,863
quick. I am also in favor of

15361
08:09:34,863 --> 08:09:37,640
First Eagle to look at option 1

15362
08:09:37,640 --> 08:09:39,934
or 3 like DR. Holness and

15363
08:09:39,934 --> 08:09:42,934
Bulman said for Norfolk, I

15364
08:09:43,805 --> 08:09:45,974
would like to go forward with

15365
08:09:45,974 --> 08:09:48,210
rising. I do think home, the

15366
08:09:48,210 --> 08:09:50,378
home ownership component, is

15367
08:09:50,378 --> 08:09:52,847
something that is so important

15368
08:09:52,847 --> 08:09:54,282
and very much lacking in the

15369
08:09:54,282 --> 08:09:56,282
affordable housing workforce

15370
08:09:56,584 --> 08:09:58,287
development housing space. So

15371
08:09:58,287 --> 08:09:59,421
if in order to make that

15372
08:09:59,421 --> 08:10:02,190
possible, we need to sell that

15373
08:10:02,190 --> 08:10:04,590
piece of land to them, I would

15374
08:10:04,590 --> 08:10:06,294
be for that because we're still

15375
08:10:06,294 --> 08:10:07,963
losing the other part. And it's

15376
08:10:07,963 --> 08:10:09,799
hard to build home ownership on

15377
08:10:09,799 --> 08:10:12,799
land that you don't actually

15378
08:10:13,340 --> 08:10:16,400
own. As far as Margate Middle,

15379
08:10:16,400 --> 08:10:19,440
I am in agreement with doing a

15380
08:10:19,440 --> 08:10:21,840
new building, Deerfield Beach

15381
08:10:23,770 --> 08:10:25,280
Elementary. I think I would

15382
08:10:25,280 --> 08:10:26,748
like to see how much that

15383
08:10:26,748 --> 08:10:28,517
they're willing to pay for that

15384
08:10:28,517 --> 08:10:30,719
land, and then determine

15385
08:10:30,719 --> 08:10:32,788
whether the lease makes sense

15386
08:10:32,788 --> 08:10:34,690
or not, because are they still,

15387
08:10:34,690 --> 08:10:36,910
I guess, the question, are they

15388
08:10:36,910 --> 08:10:37,659
interested in continuing the

15389
08:10:37,659 --> 08:10:40,328
lease if we don't want to sell

15390
08:10:40,328 --> 08:10:44,528
it, or are they going to find

15391
08:10:45,100 --> 08:10:46,268
land elsewhere?

15392
08:10:46,268 --> 08:10:47,602
>> Just the point of correction

15393
08:10:47,602 --> 08:10:49,137
is an easement. It's not a

15394
08:10:49,137 --> 08:10:51,139
lease. And that was done a long

15395
08:10:51,139 --> 08:10:52,641
time ago. It's kind of a weird

15396
08:10:52,641 --> 08:10:55,641
arrangement to use an easement.

15397
08:10:56,645 --> 08:10:58,413
So the easement is still

15398
08:10:58,413 --> 08:11:01,413
continuing and it's not really

15399
08:11:01,650 --> 08:11:04,500
negatively impacting the school.

15400
08:11:05,921 --> 08:11:07,823
So the part the I'm sorry,

15401
08:11:07,823 --> 08:11:09,224
Chris was the director of

15402
08:11:09,224 --> 08:11:10,259
facility planning real estate.

15403
08:11:10,259 --> 08:11:11,960
>> The city.

15404
08:11:11,960 --> 08:11:14,162
>> The city has been using the

15405
08:11:14,162 --> 08:11:15,263
parking area for a long time.

15406
08:11:15,263 --> 08:11:16,398
They just thought they would

15407
08:11:16,398 --> 08:11:18,200
purchase it, but it was

15408
08:11:18,200 --> 08:11:19,367
conveyed, not conveyed. But

15409
08:11:19,367 --> 08:11:22,871
it's an easement, which is kind

15410
08:11:22,871 --> 08:11:24,707
of weird.

15411
08:11:24,707 --> 08:11:25,540
>> Okay, so are they paying for

15412
08:11:25,540 --> 08:11:26,575
the easement?

15413
08:11:26,575 --> 08:11:27,343
>> Well, they would like.

15414
08:11:27,343 --> 08:11:28,643
>> To buy.

15415
08:11:28,643 --> 08:11:29,678
>> No, no no they don't. No,

15416
08:11:29,678 --> 08:11:31,481
they're not paying for these

15417
08:11:31,481 --> 08:11:32,581
men. But but they would like to

15418
08:11:32,581 --> 08:11:34,383
bite.

15419
08:11:34,383 --> 08:11:36,184
>> So right now we're getting

15420
08:11:36,184 --> 08:11:37,953
nothing. But we could get

15421
08:11:37,953 --> 08:11:39,354
something if we let them buy it.

15422
08:11:39,354 --> 08:11:40,589
>> Correct.

15423
08:11:40,589 --> 08:11:44,189
>> All right. So I'm in favor

15424
08:11:47,330 --> 08:11:50,533
of that plan then. And then. As

15425
08:11:50,533 --> 08:11:52,670
far as the Broward health, I

15426
08:11:52,670 --> 08:11:54,536
think that's a good solution.

15427
08:11:54,536 --> 08:11:57,600
And I'm happy that that has

15428
08:11:57,600 --> 08:12:00,376
come to fruition. And then I

15429
08:12:00,376 --> 08:12:03,976
have some questions on the 3 or

15430
08:12:04,514 --> 08:12:06,914
4 potential sites for housing.

15431
08:12:07,116 --> 08:12:08,951
How are we going to go about

15432
08:12:08,951 --> 08:12:10,787
talking to those communities?

15433
08:12:10,787 --> 08:12:13,689
Because I think at least one is

15434
08:12:13,689 --> 08:12:15,726
a pretty high traffic could

15435
08:12:15,726 --> 08:12:17,893
potentially do some traffic

15436
08:12:17,893 --> 08:12:19,610
impacts. Same with Willoughby

15437
08:12:19,610 --> 08:12:21,964
because I was a social worker

15438
08:12:21,964 --> 08:12:23,600
there. So what is that process?

15439
08:12:23,600 --> 08:12:27,800
If we give the green light to

15440
08:12:28,371 --> 08:12:30,771
go ahead with those?

15441
08:12:31,274 --> 08:12:32,742
>>>> Oka so it would kd d of

15442
08:12:32,742 --> 08:12:34,543
mirror the process that we are

15443
08:12:34,543 --> 08:12:36,646
doing now with the Dave Thomas

15444
08:12:36,646 --> 08:12:39,648
site. So the first thing MR.

15445
08:12:39,648 --> 08:12:41,500
Russo has actually he's in

15446
08:12:41,500 --> 08:12:42,485
conversation with the city

15447
08:12:42,485 --> 08:12:44,187
managers of the three cities to

15448
08:12:44,187 --> 08:12:46,856
see, first of all, where, where

15449
08:12:46,856 --> 08:12:48,190
would the city sit in this? And

15450
08:12:48,190 --> 08:12:49,259
then once we know where the

15451
08:12:49,259 --> 08:12:50,426
cities would sit, then we would

15452
08:12:50,426 --> 08:12:51,795
have the conversation,

15453
08:12:51,795 --> 08:12:53,596
obviously with the local

15454
08:12:53,596 --> 08:12:55,310
communities and have and see if

15455
08:12:55,310 --> 08:12:57,201
that is something that they

15456
08:12:57,201 --> 08:12:59,336
would want to see. So we would

15457
08:12:59,336 --> 08:13:00,469
follow kind of the same

15458
08:13:00,469 --> 08:13:03,306
methodology that we are doing

15459
08:13:03,306 --> 08:13:06,906
with the current plan up at

15460
08:13:06,977 --> 08:13:08,845
Dave Thomas. So first, so our

15461
08:13:08,845 --> 08:13:09,546
first conversation is with the

15462
08:13:09,546 --> 08:13:10,914
cities to see if that's

15463
08:13:10,914 --> 08:13:12,716
something that the

15464
08:13:12,716 --> 08:13:14,450
municipalities are interested

15465
08:13:14,450 --> 08:13:18,500
in, in even going down that

15466
08:13:18,521 --> 08:13:20,357
path. As far as opportunities

15467
08:13:20,357 --> 08:13:21,724
to erect affordable housing in

15468
08:13:21,724 --> 08:13:23,427
the community. And then we

15469
08:13:23,427 --> 08:13:25,695
would then have to go in those

15470
08:13:25,695 --> 08:13:27,463
local communities and have the

15471
08:13:27,463 --> 08:13:29,333
conversation to see, to see

15472
08:13:29,333 --> 08:13:30,666
where, what their input and

15473
08:13:30,666 --> 08:13:33,660
what their thought processes

15474
08:13:33,937 --> 08:13:35,339
are. Obviously, we've had some

15475
08:13:35,339 --> 08:13:37,440
conversation with the school

15476
08:13:37,440 --> 08:13:39,430
principals, and then we would

15477
08:13:39,430 --> 08:13:41,111
have to we would certainly have

15478
08:13:41,111 --> 08:13:43,613
to then come back here to the

15479
08:13:43,613 --> 08:13:45,820
board and explain all of the

15480
08:13:45,820 --> 08:13:47,251
feedback that we've received,

15481
08:13:47,251 --> 08:13:49,686
and then get direction from the

15482
08:13:49,686 --> 08:13:51,188
board on next steps. Yes, Chris,

15483
08:13:51,188 --> 08:13:52,622
you MAY add to it.

15484
08:13:52,622 --> 08:13:55,158
>> We've already spoken to the

15485
08:13:55,158 --> 08:13:57,660
city manager for Plantation and

15486
08:13:57,660 --> 08:13:58,662
Sunrise Plantation seems to be

15487
08:13:58,662 --> 08:14:01,620
receptive, and they're willing

15488
08:14:01,665 --> 08:14:03,330
to work with us. The City of

15489
08:14:03,330 --> 08:14:04,868
Sunrise is going to get back to

15490
08:14:04,868 --> 08:14:06,770
us in 30 days. They just want

15491
08:14:06,770 --> 08:14:08,138
to do some additional due

15492
08:14:08,138 --> 08:14:09,706
diligence, but they didn't push

15493
08:14:09,706 --> 08:14:11,407
back. We are still trying to

15494
08:14:11,407 --> 08:14:12,476
get a meeting with the City of

15495
08:14:12,476 --> 08:14:15,476
Margate City manager, so that's

15496
08:14:16,112 --> 08:14:18,112
where we are.

15497
08:14:18,282 --> 08:14:20,751
>> Okay, I, I think there's a

15498
08:14:20,751 --> 08:14:21,918
need in in Broward County for

15499
08:14:21,918 --> 08:14:24,321
housing. And just to be clear,

15500
08:14:24,321 --> 08:14:26,489
we would never be managing this

15501
08:14:26,489 --> 08:14:29,489
housing for anyone who's going

15502
08:14:29,726 --> 08:14:31,595
to start writing that. But I

15503
08:14:31,595 --> 08:14:32,596
remember from previous

15504
08:14:32,596 --> 08:14:35,199
conversations that there was a

15505
08:14:35,199 --> 08:14:37,300
lot of pushback about housing,

15506
08:14:37,300 --> 08:14:39,437
in particular from 1 or 2 of

15507
08:14:39,437 --> 08:14:41,572
the Margate commissioners. So I

15508
08:14:41,572 --> 08:14:44,876
don't know how that would go

15509
08:14:44,876 --> 08:14:46,510
over. And I don't want to I

15510
08:14:46,510 --> 08:14:48,879
want this to be a partnership

15511
08:14:48,879 --> 08:14:51,150
with our cities. So I think if

15512
08:14:51,150 --> 08:14:52,516
they are against it, then I

15513
08:14:52,516 --> 08:14:54,551
would not be able to support it.

15514
08:14:54,551 --> 08:14:56,186
But if there seems to be some

15515
08:14:56,186 --> 08:14:57,788
some interest from those cities,

15516
08:14:57,788 --> 08:15:01,158
then I would like us to explore

15517
08:15:01,158 --> 08:15:02,459
it further. And then last

15518
08:15:02,459 --> 08:15:05,296
comments, I think, for the

15519
08:15:05,296 --> 08:15:07,932
presentation on the 21st, that

15520
08:15:07,932 --> 08:15:11,532
that looks good. And can we

15521
08:15:12,570 --> 08:15:14,771
also just include an update on

15522
08:15:14,771 --> 08:15:16,974
how the district assisted with

15523
08:15:16,974 --> 08:15:18,509
the closed school staff, like

15524
08:15:18,509 --> 08:15:20,100
moving locations and kind of

15525
08:15:20,100 --> 08:15:22,379
the impact bargaining that we

15526
08:15:22,379 --> 08:15:24,815
did with the unions, like what

15527
08:15:24,815 --> 08:15:26,250
the outcome of that was and how

15528
08:15:26,250 --> 08:15:28,786
the teachers are feeling about

15529
08:15:28,786 --> 08:15:29,210
being relocated.

15530
08:15:29,210 --> 08:15:30,555
>> Yes.

15531
08:15:30,555 --> 08:15:31,756
>> I would appreciate that

15532
08:15:31,756 --> 08:15:32,790
component. Okay. And then

15533
08:15:32,790 --> 08:15:35,660
that's, that's all for me.

15534
08:15:35,660 --> 08:15:37,660
Thank you chair.

15535
08:15:39,163 --> 08:15:40,464
>> Thank you, MR. Cervera.

15536
08:15:40,464 --> 08:15:43,167
>> Let's see if we can land the

15537
08:15:43,167 --> 08:15:46,767
plane here. Right. So I'm in

15538
08:15:47,638 --> 08:15:51,238
favor of rising. Yes. To Eagle

15539
08:15:52,543 --> 08:15:54,278
Haven. The idea that DR. Zeman

15540
08:15:54,278 --> 08:15:56,847
had, which I thought was a good

15541
08:15:56,847 --> 08:15:59,717
one on one and or two,

15542
08:15:59,717 --> 08:16:01,852
depending on costs, on one

15543
08:16:01,852 --> 08:16:04,122
pause on Margate Middle. And

15544
08:16:04,122 --> 08:16:05,189
yes, to the easement. I'm just

15545
08:16:05,189 --> 08:16:06,591
confirming because I've heard

15546
08:16:06,591 --> 08:16:08,250
lease and I've heard easements

15547
08:16:08,250 --> 08:16:10,495
confirming it is an easement

15548
08:16:10,495 --> 08:16:11,596
agreement. Correct.

15549
08:16:11,596 --> 08:16:12,730
>> It's an easement. Okay.

15550
08:16:12,730 --> 08:16:14,499
>> Yeah. I'm in favor. Thank

15551
08:16:14,499 --> 08:16:15,967
you.

15552
08:16:15,967 --> 08:16:18,136
>> Thank you. And I just had a

15553
08:16:18,136 --> 08:16:21,136
few questions and a few

15554
08:16:22,400 --> 08:16:23,942
comments. So I want I want my

15555
08:16:23,942 --> 08:16:26,711
colleagues to be kind of clear

15556
08:16:26,711 --> 08:16:29,711
eyed about what option one

15557
08:16:30,382 --> 08:16:33,318
would look like at Seagull. I

15558
08:16:33,318 --> 08:16:34,652
would want to see, like many of

15559
08:16:34,652 --> 08:16:37,652
my colleagues, what it would

15560
08:16:37,956 --> 08:16:40,424
cost for us to invest money to

15561
08:16:40,424 --> 08:16:41,793
make option one happen. I know

15562
08:16:41,793 --> 08:16:42,594
that when the city of Fort

15563
08:16:42,594 --> 08:16:43,995
Lauderdale was looking at

15564
08:16:43,995 --> 08:16:46,331
turning it into a public safety

15565
08:16:46,331 --> 08:16:49,331
training complex, it was going

15566
08:16:49,400 --> 08:16:52,270
to be over $1 million just to

15567
08:16:52,270 --> 08:16:54,105
plan the design for that

15568
08:16:54,105 --> 08:16:55,240
facility. I know that, or at

15569
08:16:55,240 --> 08:16:56,608
least what I'm hearing from

15570
08:16:56,608 --> 08:16:58,776
Chief Gregory, is it wouldn't

15571
08:16:58,776 --> 08:16:59,477
be, you know, as extensive as

15572
08:16:59,477 --> 08:17:01,546
what the city of Fort

15573
08:17:01,546 --> 08:17:03,782
Lauderdale was talking about.

15574
08:17:03,782 --> 08:17:04,917
But I would need to see the

15575
08:17:04,917 --> 08:17:06,840
amount of money we would have

15576
08:17:06,840 --> 08:17:08,120
to invest to create, to make

15577
08:17:08,120 --> 08:17:11,120
that a public safety complex.

15578
08:17:11,356 --> 08:17:13,157
But also, again, I want to

15579
08:17:13,157 --> 08:17:16,157
remind my colleagues that there

15580
08:17:16,461 --> 08:17:18,463
is a daycare on campus or there

15581
08:17:18,463 --> 08:17:21,199
will be at well, it is at

15582
08:17:21,199 --> 08:17:22,901
Wilton right now. So hearing

15583
08:17:22,901 --> 08:17:25,804
that we would be doing active

15584
08:17:25,804 --> 08:17:27,706
shooter trainings at Seagull or

15585
08:17:27,706 --> 08:17:29,775
on the Seagull site, I have

15586
08:17:29,775 --> 08:17:31,943
some questions about that. Like,

15587
08:17:31,943 --> 08:17:34,943
would that be after school

15588
08:17:35,146 --> 08:17:36,648
hours?

15589
08:17:36,648 --> 08:17:37,816
>> Go ahead, Chief Gregory.

15590
08:17:37,816 --> 08:17:39,551
>> Mike. Mike Gregory Chief

15591
08:17:39,551 --> 08:17:41,353
Safety and Security Officer No,

15592
08:17:41,353 --> 08:17:43,550
it would we haven't fleshed out

15593
08:17:43,550 --> 08:17:44,456
a schedule yet. We'd have to

15594
08:17:44,456 --> 08:17:45,424
get back with you. What that

15595
08:17:45,424 --> 08:17:48,930
would look like. Ideally, it

15596
08:17:48,930 --> 08:17:50,762
would be at the times that the

15597
08:17:50,762 --> 08:17:52,264
the different agencies officers

15598
08:17:52,264 --> 08:17:53,365
were available. So that's

15599
08:17:53,365 --> 08:17:54,233
typically the day shift hours.

15600
08:17:54,233 --> 08:17:55,301
But they obviously have

15601
08:17:55,301 --> 08:17:57,680
officers that work night shift

15602
08:17:57,680 --> 08:17:58,938
as well. So it'd be a different

15603
08:17:58,938 --> 08:18:01,373
hours. I would be mindful to

15604
08:18:01,373 --> 08:18:04,373
say that they aren't actually

15605
08:18:04,643 --> 08:18:06,511
shooting live ammunition during

15606
08:18:06,511 --> 08:18:08,281
training. It's a sim munitions,

15607
08:18:08,281 --> 08:18:09,682
which are much quieter in

15608
08:18:09,682 --> 08:18:11,483
nature, and they aren't quite

15609
08:18:11,483 --> 08:18:13,252
as disruptive. There would be

15610
08:18:13,252 --> 08:18:15,652
sound effects inside the

15611
08:18:17,622 --> 08:18:19,492
building to simulate actual

15612
08:18:19,492 --> 08:18:20,493
training and real live training

15613
08:18:20,493 --> 08:18:21,894
environment, but it wouldn't be

15614
08:18:21,894 --> 08:18:23,280
such that it would disturb the

15615
08:18:23,280 --> 08:18:25,264
neighborhood. It wouldn't be to

15616
08:18:25,264 --> 08:18:26,966
that extent.

15617
08:18:26,966 --> 08:18:27,767
>> Okay, I would really, in

15618
08:18:27,767 --> 08:18:30,767
order to feel comfortable with

15619
08:18:32,404 --> 08:18:34,973
that, I would need to be

15620
08:18:34,973 --> 08:18:37,973
assured that, like the students

15621
08:18:39,612 --> 08:18:41,413
at Wilton would not feel the

15622
08:18:41,413 --> 08:18:43,182
impacts here in mostly like

15623
08:18:43,182 --> 08:18:46,182
sound would not hear the

15624
08:18:46,853 --> 08:18:49,289
impacts of such training. And

15625
08:18:49,289 --> 08:18:51,123
then I would also want to know

15626
08:18:51,123 --> 08:18:53,659
how much we would be able to

15627
08:18:53,659 --> 08:18:55,828
charge external agencies for

15628
08:18:55,828 --> 08:18:56,829
taking those classes. So I

15629
08:18:56,829 --> 08:18:58,297
don't know if, Doctor Hepburn,

15630
08:18:58,297 --> 08:18:59,665
you've captured that.

15631
08:18:59,665 --> 08:19:02,650
>> I'm catching it now.

15632
08:19:04,404 --> 08:19:06,572
>> Okay. And I'll just say like,

15633
08:19:06,572 --> 08:19:08,574
as a teacher, I participated in

15634
08:19:08,574 --> 08:19:10,974
active shooter training where,

15635
08:19:11,277 --> 08:19:13,790
you know, it was obviously not

15636
08:19:13,790 --> 08:19:15,181
live rounds, but the sound

15637
08:19:15,181 --> 08:19:18,181
effects were quite, quite loud.

15638
08:19:20,353 --> 08:19:22,550
So I just, I have concerns. I

15639
08:19:22,550 --> 08:19:23,456
am a well, so I had some

15640
08:19:23,456 --> 08:19:25,856
questions for the Sistrunk

15641
08:19:26,693 --> 08:19:28,528
rising team. And, you know, I

15642
08:19:28,528 --> 08:19:30,363
had a meeting last week. So

15643
08:19:30,363 --> 08:19:31,430
none of these questions are a

15644
08:19:31,430 --> 08:19:33,300
surprise. But I think it's

15645
08:19:33,300 --> 08:19:34,668
important for the public to

15646
08:19:34,668 --> 08:19:37,269
understand the answers to some

15647
08:19:37,269 --> 08:19:39,572
of these questions. Where is

15648
08:19:39,572 --> 08:19:41,608
the financing coming from for

15649
08:19:41,608 --> 08:19:42,642
this project?

15650
08:19:42,642 --> 08:19:44,770
>> Absolutely. Thank you for

15651
08:19:44,770 --> 08:19:45,512
the question. The project, as

15652
08:19:45,512 --> 08:19:47,314
proposed, includes a couple of

15653
08:19:47,314 --> 08:19:49,115
different components that are

15654
08:19:49,115 --> 08:19:50,950
going to be isolated projects,

15655
08:19:50,950 --> 08:19:52,352
and so I have to address them

15656
08:19:52,352 --> 08:19:53,519
individually. The biggest,

15657
08:19:53,519 --> 08:19:55,919
single biggest component would

15658
08:19:55,955 --> 08:19:57,791
be the 300 units of affordable

15659
08:19:57,791 --> 08:20:00,791
housing. And the financing for

15660
08:20:00,960 --> 08:20:04,965
that will be as at low income

15661
08:20:04,965 --> 08:20:06,366
housing tax credits, likely

15662
08:20:06,366 --> 08:20:08,535
bond some bond money for

15663
08:20:08,535 --> 08:20:10,504
percent bond money, and then

15664
08:20:10,504 --> 08:20:11,838
also other typical funds that

15665
08:20:11,838 --> 08:20:13,339
are usually available for

15666
08:20:13,339 --> 08:20:14,675
affordable housing. The county

15667
08:20:14,675 --> 08:20:16,409
no guarantees, but the county

15668
08:20:16,409 --> 08:20:18,312
offers funds for support of

15669
08:20:18,312 --> 08:20:19,546
affordable housing. Select

15670
08:20:19,546 --> 08:20:20,580
cities. Do I know the city of

15671
08:20:20,580 --> 08:20:22,449
Fort Lauderdale is considering

15672
08:20:22,449 --> 08:20:23,650
it? And so in short, that would

15673
08:20:23,650 --> 08:20:25,819
be financed in the same way

15674
08:20:25,819 --> 08:20:27,819
that traditional affordable

15675
08:20:27,988 --> 08:20:29,456
housing is financed. It is

15676
08:20:29,456 --> 08:20:31,856
structured between the 30 and

15677
08:20:32,626 --> 08:20:34,462
80% Ami to be optimally

15678
08:20:34,462 --> 08:20:36,230
attractive to that funding

15679
08:20:36,230 --> 08:20:38,630
mechanism. So that's one

15680
08:20:38,632 --> 08:20:40,500
component, the townhouses of

15681
08:20:40,500 --> 08:20:42,436
which there will be 18

15682
08:20:42,436 --> 08:20:43,904
townhouses. You know, we're

15683
08:20:43,904 --> 08:20:45,205
we're talking about the deeded

15684
08:20:45,205 --> 08:20:48,175
or not deeded, but let's let's

15685
08:20:48,175 --> 08:20:50,575
assume there's a ownership

15686
08:20:51,444 --> 08:20:54,214
component. They they would be

15687
08:20:54,214 --> 08:20:56,684
financed by in the same way

15688
08:20:56,684 --> 08:20:59,684
that typical workforce, sort of

15689
08:20:59,920 --> 08:21:01,454
single lot housing is financed.

15690
08:21:01,454 --> 08:21:03,457
Our partner in that regard has

15691
08:21:03,457 --> 08:21:04,658
actually undertaken multiple

15692
08:21:04,658 --> 08:21:06,694
transactions within the city of

15693
08:21:06,694 --> 08:21:08,162
Fort Lauderdale within the last

15694
08:21:08,162 --> 08:21:10,331
five years. So the intent would

15695
08:21:10,331 --> 08:21:12,990
be to use many of the same

15696
08:21:12,990 --> 08:21:14,802
programs that are built for

15697
08:21:14,802 --> 08:21:17,171
middle class individuals to own

15698
08:21:17,171 --> 08:21:18,172
houses to do just that, just so

15699
08:21:18,172 --> 08:21:19,607
you can understand the

15700
08:21:19,607 --> 08:21:21,475
perspective from a timing

15701
08:21:21,475 --> 08:21:23,875
standpoint. The site currently

15702
08:21:24,145 --> 08:21:25,712
is not zoned for commercial and

15703
08:21:25,712 --> 08:21:27,581
or residential development, so

15704
08:21:27,581 --> 08:21:29,483
there would likely be a ten

15705
08:21:29,483 --> 08:21:30,885
plus month period of time with

15706
08:21:30,885 --> 08:21:32,986
which we would navigate the

15707
08:21:32,986 --> 08:21:34,755
process with the city. We would

15708
08:21:34,755 --> 08:21:37,225
also, in parallel, use that

15709
08:21:37,225 --> 08:21:39,260
time to line up financing

15710
08:21:39,260 --> 08:21:41,229
options for the projects.

15711
08:21:41,229 --> 08:21:42,997
Finally, the final component of

15712
08:21:42,997 --> 08:21:44,831
significance would be the hotel

15713
08:21:44,831 --> 08:21:46,567
that would be financed using

15714
08:21:46,567 --> 08:21:48,836
traditional market rate funding

15715
08:21:48,836 --> 08:21:50,971
mechanisms, a hotel of that

15716
08:21:50,971 --> 08:21:53,140
nature, likely in the range of

15717
08:21:53,140 --> 08:21:55,540
125 rooms, would consist of

15718
08:21:56,744 --> 08:21:58,546
somewhere around 60 to 65% debt

15719
08:21:58,546 --> 08:22:00,348
that would be offered by the

15720
08:22:00,348 --> 08:22:02,183
market. We would bring in a we

15721
08:22:02,183 --> 08:22:03,250
would have to ultimately get a

15722
08:22:03,250 --> 08:22:04,619
license agreement or a

15723
08:22:04,619 --> 08:22:06,487
franchise agreement with a

15724
08:22:06,487 --> 08:22:07,989
national hotel company to come

15725
08:22:07,989 --> 08:22:10,570
in, and that would likely come

15726
08:22:10,570 --> 08:22:12,192
with a developer who's done

15727
08:22:12,192 --> 08:22:15,290
multiple of those properties to

15728
08:22:15,290 --> 08:22:17,198
build that out. None. To be

15729
08:22:17,198 --> 08:22:19,801
clear, there would be no

15730
08:22:19,801 --> 08:22:21,636
expectation of any funding

15731
08:22:21,636 --> 08:22:23,470
being provided by the district.

15732
08:22:23,470 --> 08:22:25,206
No request, no expectation of

15733
08:22:25,206 --> 08:22:26,608
that. You would be offering the

15734
08:22:26,608 --> 08:22:28,710
land, and we would then

15735
08:22:28,710 --> 08:22:29,944
subsequently lease the land. We

15736
08:22:29,944 --> 08:22:31,646
expect that if you were to give

15737
08:22:31,646 --> 08:22:33,615
us a good grace of negotiating

15738
08:22:33,615 --> 08:22:35,183
a lease agreement, that the

15739
08:22:35,183 --> 08:22:37,510
lease agreement would have some

15740
08:22:37,510 --> 08:22:39,554
provisions in there that say,

15741
08:22:39,554 --> 08:22:42,570
if things are taken too long

15742
08:22:42,570 --> 08:22:43,558
and that there would be

15743
08:22:43,558 --> 08:22:44,626
repercussions to allow the

15744
08:22:44,626 --> 08:22:46,994
district to move forward with

15745
08:22:46,994 --> 08:22:48,263
the property. Does that answer

15746
08:22:48,263 --> 08:22:48,663
your question, chair Leonardi

15747
08:22:48,663 --> 08:22:50,663
yes.

15748
08:22:51,533 --> 08:22:53,668
>> Thank you. Can you go over

15749
08:22:53,668 --> 08:22:55,503
the timeline for this? So if we

15750
08:22:55,503 --> 08:22:57,572
give direction today that we

15751
08:22:57,572 --> 08:23:00,410
want to move forward with

15752
08:23:00,410 --> 08:23:03,410
Sistrunk rising, what what are

15753
08:23:03,278 --> 08:23:05,914
the next steps? When can we

15754
08:23:05,914 --> 08:23:08,116
expect shovels in the ground?

15755
08:23:08,116 --> 08:23:09,217
When can we expect this to be

15756
08:23:09,217 --> 08:23:11,520
completed? When can we expect

15757
08:23:11,520 --> 08:23:12,587
the district to start earning

15758
08:23:12,587 --> 08:23:14,456
money from the lease agreement?

15759
08:23:14,456 --> 08:23:15,857
>> Sure. And I could hear the

15760
08:23:15,857 --> 08:23:18,426
smiles behind me already, but

15761
08:23:18,426 --> 08:23:19,928
I'll hazard an attempt to be

15762
08:23:19,928 --> 08:23:23,980
responsive to you. So first, if

15763
08:23:23,980 --> 08:23:25,267
we were to get a I'm not going

15764
08:23:25,267 --> 08:23:27,436
to be presumptive, but if as we

15765
08:23:27,436 --> 08:23:28,837
go forward with consensus, we

15766
08:23:28,837 --> 08:23:30,639
would proceed to negotiate with

15767
08:23:30,639 --> 08:23:32,507
your staff, negotiating the

15768
08:23:32,507 --> 08:23:34,243
comprehensive agreements. Can't

15769
08:23:34,243 --> 08:23:35,677
speak about timing, but I know

15770
08:23:35,677 --> 08:23:38,146
given the way these things are,

15771
08:23:38,146 --> 08:23:39,147
we're prepared to negotiate

15772
08:23:39,147 --> 08:23:40,282
expediently. So we think

15773
08:23:40,282 --> 08:23:42,184
there's an opportunity to have

15774
08:23:42,184 --> 08:23:43,585
that. Back to you for

15775
08:23:43,585 --> 08:23:45,721
consideration by the fourth

15776
08:23:45,721 --> 08:23:46,588
quarter of this year,

15777
08:23:46,588 --> 08:23:48,323
potentially the third quarter

15778
08:23:48,323 --> 08:23:49,358
of this year. And you would

15779
08:23:49,358 --> 08:23:50,826
have a lease agreement and a

15780
08:23:50,826 --> 08:23:53,161
development agreement if that

15781
08:23:53,161 --> 08:23:54,763
were approved going forward, we

15782
08:23:54,763 --> 08:23:56,631
would then immediately spring

15783
08:23:56,631 --> 08:23:58,990
into two things. As you've

15784
08:23:58,990 --> 08:24:01,990
alluded to earlier, there are

15785
08:24:01,203 --> 08:24:03,438
some considerations relative to

15786
08:24:03,438 --> 08:24:05,700
Seminole, Indian, Seminole,

15787
08:24:05,700 --> 08:24:06,642
Indian artifacts, potentially,

15788
08:24:06,642 --> 08:24:08,770
or sites of significance that

15789
08:24:08,770 --> 08:24:09,878
are there. There's a state

15790
08:24:09,878 --> 08:24:11,146
process that is stipulated. You

15791
08:24:11,146 --> 08:24:12,714
all have started that with some

15792
08:24:12,714 --> 08:24:15,317
of your studies. So we would

15793
08:24:15,317 --> 08:24:17,119
undertake that process in

15794
08:24:17,119 --> 08:24:19,621
parallel. We would start to

15795
08:24:19,621 --> 08:24:22,210
work on the entitlements

15796
08:24:22,258 --> 08:24:23,692
process with the city. We

15797
08:24:23,692 --> 08:24:24,827
expect that process to take ten

15798
08:24:24,827 --> 08:24:26,662
months, so it's going to take

15799
08:24:26,662 --> 08:24:28,664
us ten months to get the site

15800
08:24:28,664 --> 08:24:30,599
zoned so that we have the right

15801
08:24:30,599 --> 08:24:33,769
to build the kind of uses that

15802
08:24:33,769 --> 08:24:35,171
we are proposing. Yeah. As I

15803
08:24:35,171 --> 08:24:36,572
mentioned before, in parallel

15804
08:24:36,572 --> 08:24:38,541
and overlaid with that, we

15805
08:24:38,541 --> 08:24:40,876
would be undertaking to explore

15806
08:24:40,876 --> 08:24:42,345
the funding market with a high

15807
08:24:42,345 --> 08:24:45,281
priority being to get the

15808
08:24:45,281 --> 08:24:47,160
affordable going as quickly as

15809
08:24:47,160 --> 08:24:49,151
possible. The process is

15810
08:24:49,151 --> 08:24:51,551
somewhat uncertain. Our belief

15811
08:24:51,721 --> 08:24:53,890
is that inside of two years

15812
08:24:53,890 --> 08:24:57,159
after, you have allowed us to

15813
08:24:57,159 --> 08:24:58,894
one and very likely more of the

15814
08:24:58,894 --> 08:25:00,696
components the three components

15815
08:25:00,696 --> 08:25:02,696
townhomes, affordable

15816
08:25:03,966 --> 08:25:04,533
apartments and hotel, 1 or 2 of

15817
08:25:04,533 --> 08:25:05,935
those components would have

15818
08:25:05,935 --> 08:25:07,904
been started within that time

15819
08:25:07,904 --> 08:25:09,705
frame, but the first year or so

15820
08:25:09,705 --> 08:25:11,974
we will be working through

15821
08:25:11,974 --> 08:25:13,376
diligently the entitlement

15822
08:25:13,376 --> 08:25:14,744
process and whatever agreement

15823
08:25:14,744 --> 08:25:15,812
we would enter with you would

15824
08:25:15,812 --> 08:25:17,213
stipulate level of effort to

15825
08:25:17,213 --> 08:25:18,748
give you some comfort, and

15826
08:25:18,748 --> 08:25:19,782
there would be coordination

15827
08:25:19,782 --> 08:25:22,351
with your real estate team. So

15828
08:25:22,351 --> 08:25:24,530
they're aware of our movements.

15829
08:25:24,530 --> 08:25:25,554
>> Thank you. And then my next

15830
08:25:25,554 --> 08:25:29,154
question is are for the general

15831
08:25:30,526 --> 08:25:34,126
counsel. Do any aspects of this

15832
08:25:34,230 --> 08:25:37,230
project qualify or meet the

15833
08:25:39,234 --> 08:25:42,234
criteria for a p three?

15834
08:25:43,710 --> 08:25:45,642
>> So. The way it was solicited

15835
08:25:45,642 --> 08:25:47,543
is the only question that I

15836
08:25:47,543 --> 08:25:48,945
would have on that one, because

15837
08:25:48,945 --> 08:25:50,679
it's I'd have to look at the

15838
08:25:50,679 --> 08:25:52,482
history a little bit more to

15839
08:25:52,482 --> 08:25:54,984
determine whether it was not an

15840
08:25:54,984 --> 08:25:56,119
unsolicited proposal. It was an

15841
08:25:56,119 --> 08:25:56,419
unsolicited proposal.

15842
08:25:56,419 --> 08:25:58,121
>> Correct.

15843
08:25:58,121 --> 08:26:01,557
>> Okay. So if it was an

15844
08:26:01,557 --> 08:26:03,957
unsolicited proposal, then yes.

15845
08:26:04,828 --> 08:26:05,994
>> Okay. So I just want to make

15846
08:26:05,994 --> 08:26:07,697
sure that we're in compliance

15847
08:26:07,697 --> 08:26:09,431
with all of our policies and

15848
08:26:09,431 --> 08:26:10,900
all statutes.

15849
08:26:10,900 --> 08:26:12,369
>> So that would be something

15850
08:26:12,369 --> 08:26:14,504
that I will get together with

15851
08:26:14,504 --> 08:26:16,639
staff. I know that we now have

15852
08:26:16,639 --> 08:26:18,474
a policy coming and we have

15853
08:26:18,474 --> 08:26:20,977
processes. We'll just make sure

15854
08:26:20,977 --> 08:26:23,379
that we are in compliance with

15855
08:26:23,379 --> 08:26:25,379
whatever is required.

15856
08:26:29,619 --> 08:26:32,619
>> Okay. All right. For Seagull,

15857
08:26:33,556 --> 08:26:35,458
I am in the minority. I guess I

15858
08:26:35,458 --> 08:26:37,894
would like to pursue option

15859
08:26:37,894 --> 08:26:40,430
three for now, but I would like

15860
08:26:40,430 --> 08:26:41,531
the, you know, since I'm in the

15861
08:26:41,531 --> 08:26:44,000
minority there, I'll I'll go

15862
08:26:44,000 --> 08:26:45,469
with option one and three. I

15863
08:26:45,469 --> 08:26:46,269
would really like to the

15864
08:26:46,269 --> 08:26:48,338
information that I requested

15865
08:26:48,338 --> 08:26:50,540
for option one. I'm in favor of

15866
08:26:50,540 --> 08:26:53,540
a market replacement in favor

15867
08:26:53,677 --> 08:26:55,278
of the Deerfield easement. I

15868
08:26:55,278 --> 08:26:56,646
support MISS Thompson's

15869
08:26:56,646 --> 08:26:58,470
proposal for including, you

15870
08:26:58,470 --> 08:27:00,249
know, how we've dealt with the

15871
08:27:00,249 --> 08:27:03,252
closed schools in the next. In

15872
08:27:03,252 --> 08:27:04,788
the next workshop, I'm in favor

15873
08:27:04,788 --> 08:27:07,724
of the Eagles Haven request,

15874
08:27:07,724 --> 08:27:10,594
like everyone else has said,

15875
08:27:10,594 --> 08:27:12,429
and I am in favor of Sistrunk

15876
08:27:12,429 --> 08:27:14,230
rising. As long as we follow.

15877
08:27:14,230 --> 08:27:17,830
Like all of our policies and

15878
08:27:19,903 --> 08:27:23,503
state statutes and all of that.

15879
08:27:23,974 --> 08:27:27,911
Oh, and then for for a slide 36,

15880
08:27:27,911 --> 08:27:31,511
again, like I would very much

15881
08:27:31,515 --> 08:27:34,515
like to see a formalized

15882
08:27:36,552 --> 08:27:37,988
process for. How we accept

15883
08:27:37,988 --> 08:27:40,457
proposals or how we deal with

15884
08:27:40,457 --> 08:27:41,892
our, our, the properties of the

15885
08:27:41,892 --> 08:27:44,292
schools that we are

15886
08:27:45,496 --> 08:27:47,664
consolidating. I find it really

15887
08:27:47,664 --> 08:27:49,166
I struggle with the fact that,

15888
08:27:49,166 --> 08:27:51,368
you know, land is probably one

15889
08:27:51,368 --> 08:27:54,368
of the most valuable resources

15890
08:27:56,707 --> 08:27:59,609
in Broward. And we really only

15891
08:27:59,609 --> 08:28:02,120
have one proposal for, for a

15892
08:28:02,120 --> 08:28:04,248
very, very valuable piece of

15893
08:28:04,248 --> 08:28:05,949
land, land, a very good

15894
08:28:05,949 --> 08:28:07,117
proposal, but one nonetheless,

15895
08:28:07,117 --> 08:28:09,190
when I think there should be

15896
08:28:09,190 --> 08:28:11,489
much more competition for our

15897
08:28:11,489 --> 08:28:12,623
land. And I think that says

15898
08:28:12,623 --> 08:28:14,258
something about how we are

15899
08:28:14,258 --> 08:28:15,759
going about this process that I

15900
08:28:15,759 --> 08:28:18,629
think needs to be improved,

15901
08:28:18,629 --> 08:28:21,465
like people Should be begging

15902
08:28:21,465 --> 08:28:23,901
us to in competing for for our

15903
08:28:23,901 --> 08:28:25,769
land. So I would really like to

15904
08:28:25,769 --> 08:28:26,937
see in the next workshop, and

15905
08:28:26,937 --> 08:28:27,938
I'll keep saying it because

15906
08:28:27,938 --> 08:28:29,730
I've asked for this, but I

15907
08:28:29,730 --> 08:28:31,142
would really like to see a

15908
08:28:31,142 --> 08:28:34,742
formal process for how we deal

15909
08:28:35,246 --> 08:28:36,414
with our our schools and how we

15910
08:28:36,414 --> 08:28:38,814
accept proposals or whatever

15911
08:28:39,484 --> 08:28:41,180
you want to call it, moving

15912
08:28:41,180 --> 08:28:43,554
forward. MISS Dupree Bruno, did

15913
08:28:43,554 --> 08:28:43,788
you want to? I thought, you

15914
08:28:43,788 --> 08:28:44,655
know.

15915
08:28:44,655 --> 08:28:45,723
>> Well, thank you, MISS

15916
08:28:45,723 --> 08:28:47,758
Leonardi. What I was going to

15917
08:28:47,758 --> 08:28:48,492
say is, is that's what the

15918
08:28:48,492 --> 08:28:49,961
General Council has been

15919
08:28:49,961 --> 08:28:52,960
working on as far as policies

15920
08:28:52,960 --> 08:28:54,232
are concerned, to ensure that

15921
08:28:54,232 --> 08:28:57,680
we do have a formal policy as

15922
08:28:57,680 --> 08:28:58,202
well as procedural standard

15923
08:28:58,202 --> 08:28:59,404
operating procedures,

15924
08:28:59,404 --> 08:29:01,773
procedural manual for how we

15925
08:29:01,773 --> 08:29:03,207
then implement the intent and

15926
08:29:03,207 --> 08:29:05,309
the language and the policy. So

15927
08:29:05,309 --> 08:29:07,111
yes, MISS Leonardi, that would

15928
08:29:07,111 --> 08:29:08,879
definitely, as we launch,

15929
08:29:08,879 --> 08:29:10,148
redefining this third year,

15930
08:29:10,148 --> 08:29:12,116
that would be a very integral

15931
08:29:12,116 --> 08:29:13,851
part of the process.

15932
08:29:13,851 --> 08:29:15,720
>> So the policy is coming to

15933
08:29:15,720 --> 08:29:18,560
the board for the final

15934
08:29:18,560 --> 08:29:20,191
adoption on the 23rd. That's

15935
08:29:20,191 --> 08:29:21,492
the public private partnership

15936
08:29:21,492 --> 08:29:23,294
policy. And there's already a

15937
08:29:23,294 --> 08:29:24,729
draft of the process as well as

15938
08:29:24,729 --> 08:29:26,264
standard operating procedure

15939
08:29:26,264 --> 08:29:28,320
that staff is fine tuning. So

15940
08:29:28,320 --> 08:29:30,568
we can come and share that with

15941
08:29:30,568 --> 08:29:32,968
you when it's finalized.

15942
08:29:35,206 --> 08:29:36,340
>> Thank you, MISS Hixon.

15943
08:29:36,340 --> 08:29:38,760
>> Thank you. Thank you for

15944
08:29:38,760 --> 08:29:40,277
giving me the opportunity to

15945
08:29:40,277 --> 08:29:42,414
weigh in again. I will just say,

15946
08:29:42,414 --> 08:29:44,983
chair, you're not necessarily a

15947
08:29:44,983 --> 08:29:46,317
loner on that. I also think for

15948
08:29:46,317 --> 08:29:49,287
Siegel, I would rather look at

15949
08:29:49,287 --> 08:29:51,560
option three first, although I

15950
08:29:51,560 --> 08:29:52,791
do know that a training

15951
08:29:52,791 --> 08:29:55,791
facility is necessary because I

15952
08:29:56,528 --> 08:29:58,663
had had a number of law

15953
08:29:58,663 --> 08:30:00,364
enforcement officers and

15954
08:30:00,364 --> 08:30:02,634
detectives and stuff asking

15955
08:30:02,634 --> 08:30:05,169
about the opportunity to use

15956
08:30:05,169 --> 08:30:06,605
some of our schools after, you

15957
08:30:06,605 --> 08:30:07,939
know, after school to do some

15958
08:30:07,939 --> 08:30:09,374
of that training, because we

15959
08:30:09,374 --> 08:30:12,177
know the training is really

15960
08:30:12,177 --> 08:30:14,478
important. I, I do share some

15961
08:30:14,478 --> 08:30:17,480
of the concerns that you have,

15962
08:30:17,480 --> 08:30:20,152
and I know that sounds MAY be a

15963
08:30:20,152 --> 08:30:22,153
little less, but they're still

15964
08:30:22,153 --> 08:30:23,788
traumatizing. And again, I know

15965
08:30:23,788 --> 08:30:26,788
it's such an important training

15966
08:30:28,192 --> 08:30:29,260
for students to have. But

15967
08:30:29,260 --> 08:30:31,296
anyway, I mean, it's important

15968
08:30:31,296 --> 08:30:34,299
training for, for the police to

15969
08:30:34,299 --> 08:30:36,935
have in order to be prepared.

15970
08:30:36,935 --> 08:30:40,500
But I do think that even the

15971
08:30:40,500 --> 08:30:42,400
slight possibility of it being

15972
08:30:42,400 --> 08:30:44,343
able to be heard is concerning.

15973
08:30:44,343 --> 08:30:46,780
I'm not saying no to it exactly,

15974
08:30:46,780 --> 08:30:48,130
but my order would be to look

15975
08:30:48,130 --> 08:30:50,114
at option one first and then

15976
08:30:50,114 --> 08:30:52,316
I'm sorry, option three first

15977
08:30:52,316 --> 08:30:54,850
and then bring us like, what

15978
08:30:54,850 --> 08:30:55,520
would how much money would that

15979
08:30:55,520 --> 08:30:58,230
garner? Is there anybody even

15980
08:30:58,230 --> 08:31:00,192
really interested? And then if

15981
08:31:00,192 --> 08:31:04,163
that doesn't pan out to look at

15982
08:31:04,163 --> 08:31:07,763
option one and then option two.

15983
08:31:07,766 --> 08:31:11,369
So for Margate, I'm okay to to

15984
08:31:11,369 --> 08:31:14,239
halt for right now, especially

15985
08:31:14,239 --> 08:31:15,440
because I think we have the

15986
08:31:15,440 --> 08:31:17,840
facilities assessment and stuff.

15987
08:31:18,944 --> 08:31:20,713
I do agree that spending my

15988
08:31:20,713 --> 08:31:24,830
pockets of money here and there

15989
08:31:24,830 --> 08:31:26,483
don't necessarily help overall

15990
08:31:27,153 --> 08:31:28,653
when something is in the

15991
08:31:28,653 --> 08:31:29,855
distress that Margate Middle is

15992
08:31:29,855 --> 08:31:31,156
in. You know, we were already

15993
08:31:31,156 --> 08:31:33,240
getting ready to spend money on

15994
08:31:33,240 --> 08:31:34,727
a cafeteria because it's way

15995
08:31:34,727 --> 08:31:36,661
too small for the students. But

15996
08:31:36,661 --> 08:31:38,464
my question I have on that is

15997
08:31:38,464 --> 08:31:39,465
have we I mean, I don't think

15998
08:31:39,465 --> 08:31:40,533
we have based on the

15999
08:31:40,533 --> 08:31:42,401
presentation, but I just want

16000
08:31:42,401 --> 08:31:44,169
to be clear. Have we spent any

16001
08:31:44,169 --> 08:31:46,572
money on design for the

16002
08:31:46,572 --> 08:31:48,473
cafeteria as of yet?

16003
08:31:48,473 --> 08:31:49,842
>> Sonia Colino Executive

16004
08:31:49,842 --> 08:31:52,311
Director No, we have not spent

16005
08:31:52,311 --> 08:31:53,112
any money on the design for the

16006
08:31:53,112 --> 08:31:54,580
cafeteria.

16007
08:31:54,580 --> 08:31:56,415
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.

16008
08:31:56,415 --> 08:31:58,283
But I do I mean, listed on

16009
08:31:58,283 --> 08:31:59,918
there. If we vote, if we if we

16010
08:31:59,918 --> 08:32:01,520
say yes to Margate, the

16011
08:32:01,520 --> 08:32:02,788
proposal that's here, we are

16012
08:32:02,788 --> 08:32:04,590
still going to finish some of

16013
08:32:04,590 --> 08:32:06,425
that work. And that's being

16014
08:32:06,425 --> 08:32:08,560
done like the restrooms. And

16015
08:32:08,560 --> 08:32:10,696
we're going to make sure that

16016
08:32:10,696 --> 08:32:12,565
they have proper working air

16017
08:32:12,565 --> 08:32:14,767
and all those pieces that will

16018
08:32:14,767 --> 08:32:17,300
allow them to be comfortable

16019
08:32:17,300 --> 08:32:18,504
and not distressed in the

16020
08:32:18,504 --> 08:32:19,772
school. I just want to be

16021
08:32:19,772 --> 08:32:22,607
really clear that that's part

16022
08:32:22,607 --> 08:32:24,777
of, of saying yes to this. Am I

16023
08:32:24,777 --> 08:32:26,777
correct?

16024
08:32:26,779 --> 08:32:29,782
>> Yes. That is a part of the

16025
08:32:29,782 --> 08:32:31,951
overall proposal. We did talk

16026
08:32:31,951 --> 08:32:33,786
about setting aside some of the

16027
08:32:33,786 --> 08:32:35,188
dollars to keep the school

16028
08:32:35,188 --> 08:32:37,560
functioning until such time as

16029
08:32:37,560 --> 08:32:38,391
we can decide what we want to

16030
08:32:38,391 --> 08:32:39,926
do going forward.

16031
08:32:39,926 --> 08:32:42,280
>> Okay, great. But I would

16032
08:32:42,280 --> 08:32:43,729
just like to add, I think we

16033
08:32:43,729 --> 08:32:44,697
need to do more than just keep

16034
08:32:44,697 --> 08:32:46,733
it functioning, right. We want

16035
08:32:46,733 --> 08:32:48,534
it to be comfortable. We want

16036
08:32:48,534 --> 08:32:51,400
it to be a place where students

16037
08:32:51,400 --> 08:32:52,972
want to show up. So I'm okay

16038
08:32:52,972 --> 08:32:55,400
with halting for now and coming

16039
08:32:55,400 --> 08:32:56,843
up with a better plan, because

16040
08:32:56,843 --> 08:32:58,678
honestly, I think building a

16041
08:32:58,678 --> 08:33:01,214
whole school might almost be

16042
08:33:01,214 --> 08:33:02,215
cheaper than just the cafeteria,

16043
08:33:02,215 --> 08:33:03,682
although I know that that's not

16044
08:33:03,682 --> 08:33:05,518
the case. But if we're already

16045
08:33:05,518 --> 08:33:07,187
looking at the cafeteria, when

16046
08:33:07,187 --> 08:33:09,822
you fold that into a newchchl,

16047
08:33:09,822 --> 08:33:11,257
I ththk it it w worut t to b be

16048
08:33:11,257 --> 08:33:13,459
way ss tn n what we' trying

16049
08:33:13,459 --> 08:33:15,228
to figure out here. So I'm okay

16050
08:33:15,228 --> 08:33:16,729
with that. But I, I don't want

16051
08:33:16,729 --> 08:33:18,531
it just to be functional. I

16052
08:33:18,531 --> 08:33:20,700
want it to be comfortable in a

16053
08:33:20,700 --> 08:33:23,435
place where students and staff

16054
08:33:23,435 --> 08:33:27,730
are happy to go every day. I'm.

16055
08:33:27,730 --> 08:33:28,608
Yes. To Deerfield Beach on page

16056
08:33:28,608 --> 08:33:31,608
31. Just a couple of questions

16057
08:33:31,811 --> 08:33:33,914
about the the other piece,

16058
08:33:33,914 --> 08:33:36,817
using other spaces for housing.

16059
08:33:36,817 --> 08:33:38,818
It says that these spaces were

16060
08:33:38,818 --> 08:33:41,120
identified. So who identified

16061
08:33:41,120 --> 08:33:43,120
the spaces?

16062
08:33:43,623 --> 08:33:46,193
>> I. MRS. Hixon, this is

16063
08:33:46,193 --> 08:33:48,280
Valerie. So there was a

16064
08:33:48,280 --> 08:33:50,428
workshop presentation that the

16065
08:33:51,565 --> 08:33:55,702
board did on. It was back in

16066
08:33:55,702 --> 08:33:58,438
JUNE, JUNE 10th of 2025. And in

16067
08:33:58,438 --> 08:34:00,838
that presentation, these three

16068
08:34:00,940 --> 08:34:02,409
schools were called out in that

16069
08:34:02,409 --> 08:34:03,443
presentation. I'm sorry.

16070
08:34:03,443 --> 08:34:05,443
>> Okay.

16071
08:34:07,748 --> 08:34:09,283
>> Well. So Margate and

16072
08:34:09,283 --> 08:34:11,283
Willoughby were specifically

16073
08:34:11,285 --> 08:34:12,853
called out. And at that time,

16074
08:34:12,853 --> 08:34:14,288
school board member, current

16075
08:34:14,288 --> 08:34:17,190
vice chair DR. Holness asked

16076
08:34:17,190 --> 08:34:19,326
for plantation to be considered.

16077
08:34:19,326 --> 08:34:21,161
>> Okay. I just because it just

16078
08:34:21,161 --> 08:34:22,963
says they were identified. So I

16079
08:34:22,963 --> 08:34:25,990
just want people to know, you

16080
08:34:25,990 --> 08:34:27,267
know, how that happened. So it

16081
08:34:27,267 --> 08:34:29,360
also says that there's the rfp

16082
08:34:29,360 --> 08:34:30,804
for Dave Thomas will go out. So

16083
08:34:30,804 --> 08:34:32,406
I'm just a little confused

16084
08:34:32,406 --> 08:34:34,808
because I thought we were

16085
08:34:34,808 --> 08:34:37,344
already working with someone to,

16086
08:34:37,344 --> 08:34:40,790
to build out the. Dave Thomas.

16087
08:34:40,790 --> 08:34:41,615
>> So I will let MR. White, our,

16088
08:34:41,615 --> 08:34:43,117
our executive director of

16089
08:34:43,117 --> 08:34:44,852
procurement, speak to that and

16090
08:34:44,852 --> 08:34:49,652
so that he can give the board a

16091
08:34:51,725 --> 08:34:53,494
little additional information.

16092
08:34:53,494 --> 08:34:55,262
>> Good afternoon. John Wesley

16093
08:34:55,262 --> 08:34:57,262
White, interim executive

16094
08:34:57,864 --> 08:34:59,633
director of Procurement Task

16095
08:34:59,633 --> 08:35:03,203
Assigned. I want to give you a

16096
08:35:03,203 --> 08:35:06,107
brief 200 zero foot overview on

16097
08:35:06,107 --> 08:35:09,309
where we are with the p three

16098
08:35:09,309 --> 08:35:10,778
project for Dave Thomas, the

16099
08:35:10,778 --> 08:35:12,313
Office of General Counsel, as

16100
08:35:12,313 --> 08:35:15,820
you've heard earlier, did share

16101
08:35:15,820 --> 08:35:16,617
a draft p three process

16102
08:35:16,617 --> 08:35:18,386
standard Operating Procedure

16103
08:35:18,386 --> 08:35:21,386
and Policy for review and

16104
08:35:21,521 --> 08:35:23,240
comment. On MAY 27th, the

16105
08:35:23,240 --> 08:35:25,392
procurement and real estate and

16106
08:35:25,392 --> 08:35:27,128
outside counsel Oscar Soto have

16107
08:35:27,128 --> 08:35:29,163
been collaborating on the scope

16108
08:35:29,163 --> 08:35:30,565
and requirements for the

16109
08:35:30,565 --> 08:35:33,565
solicitation. As of early this

16110
08:35:35,336 --> 08:35:37,138
week. We feel that we are about

16111
08:35:37,138 --> 08:35:39,138
80% to 85%, complete with

16112
08:35:39,674 --> 08:35:41,800
drafting the solicitation.

16113
08:35:41,800 --> 08:35:42,843
We've already gone to e, d, o,

16114
08:35:42,843 --> 08:35:45,460
c and they have submitted some

16115
08:35:45,460 --> 08:35:46,146
draft language to be

16116
08:35:46,146 --> 08:35:47,481
incorporated in it to address

16117
08:35:47,481 --> 08:35:49,881
local, small and minority

16118
08:35:50,510 --> 08:35:51,819
business participation in the

16119
08:35:51,819 --> 08:35:53,720
project, and we are currently

16120
08:35:53,720 --> 08:35:55,456
working to issue an advance

16121
08:35:55,456 --> 08:35:57,191
public notice of the pending

16122
08:35:57,191 --> 08:35:58,493
project. And I think this also

16123
08:35:58,493 --> 08:36:00,928
addresses some of the concerns

16124
08:36:00,928 --> 08:36:02,997
of the board that you want to

16125
08:36:02,997 --> 08:36:04,765
see an adequate amount of

16126
08:36:04,765 --> 08:36:06,634
competition for this very

16127
08:36:06,634 --> 08:36:08,200
valuable set of properties. And

16128
08:36:08,200 --> 08:36:09,770
so what we're doing is we're

16129
08:36:09,770 --> 08:36:11,372
going to draft up a short

16130
08:36:11,372 --> 08:36:13,740
notice and then post it and let

16131
08:36:13,740 --> 08:36:14,542
them know that, hey, this is

16132
08:36:14,542 --> 08:36:16,644
something that's going to be

16133
08:36:16,644 --> 08:36:18,479
coming in the near future. And

16134
08:36:18,479 --> 08:36:20,480
so go ahead and start getting

16135
08:36:20,480 --> 08:36:23,648
your teams together to be able

16136
08:36:23,818 --> 08:36:26,454
to bid on it. MR. Soto, our

16137
08:36:26,454 --> 08:36:28,854
outside counsel, is currently

16138
08:36:28,857 --> 08:36:30,725
updating the draft p three

16139
08:36:30,725 --> 08:36:32,494
Comprehensive Agreement and

16140
08:36:32,494 --> 08:36:34,696
drafting a determination for

16141
08:36:34,696 --> 08:36:36,965
Doctor Hepburn to sign,

16142
08:36:36,965 --> 08:36:39,330
indicating that this is a a

16143
08:36:39,330 --> 08:36:41,433
qualifying project per Florida

16144
08:36:42,203 --> 08:36:44,603
Statute 255.065 and the draft

16145
08:36:45,390 --> 08:36:47,709
board policy. And this all

16146
08:36:47,709 --> 08:36:49,811
relates to this being a

16147
08:36:49,811 --> 08:36:52,811
facility that's being used as

16148
08:36:53,480 --> 08:36:54,249
for educational purposes and

16149
08:36:54,249 --> 08:36:56,585
for the public good. And so

16150
08:36:56,585 --> 08:36:58,985
that determination is required

16151
08:36:59,860 --> 08:37:00,689
before we can formally proceed.

16152
08:37:00,689 --> 08:37:02,390
Real estate is moving forward

16153
08:37:02,390 --> 08:37:04,926
to have a Florida licensed

16154
08:37:04,926 --> 08:37:07,950
architect or engineer prepare a

16155
08:37:07,950 --> 08:37:08,529
required design criteria

16156
08:37:08,529 --> 08:37:09,664
package. We don't anticipate

16157
08:37:09,664 --> 08:37:11,766
that this is going to be a

16158
08:37:11,766 --> 08:37:13,535
major, time consuming effort,

16159
08:37:13,535 --> 08:37:15,690
as this information is pretty

16160
08:37:15,690 --> 08:37:16,738
readily available in the draft

16161
08:37:16,738 --> 08:37:18,720
scope of work. It's going to

16162
08:37:18,720 --> 08:37:19,341
address things like the number

16163
08:37:19,341 --> 08:37:21,741
of units, which is

16164
08:37:22,177 --> 08:37:23,612
approximately 91 to 4 bedroom

16165
08:37:23,612 --> 08:37:25,447
configuration, low income

16166
08:37:25,447 --> 08:37:28,447
residential units, not a mixed

16167
08:37:29,284 --> 08:37:30,986
use property, 50 to 100% low

16168
08:37:30,986 --> 08:37:32,220
income based on agreement that

16169
08:37:32,220 --> 08:37:34,523
has yet to be finalized with

16170
08:37:34,523 --> 08:37:35,891
the City of Pompano Beach

16171
08:37:35,891 --> 08:37:37,626
Community Room, playground area

16172
08:37:37,626 --> 08:37:39,528
on site parking, hurricane

16173
08:37:39,528 --> 08:37:41,596
windows and doors, perimeter

16174
08:37:41,596 --> 08:37:43,980
fencing, security lead or

16175
08:37:43,980 --> 08:37:44,699
equivalent certification. So

16176
08:37:44,699 --> 08:37:46,368
we've got all that information.

16177
08:37:46,368 --> 08:37:47,869
We just need to get an

16178
08:37:47,869 --> 08:37:49,939
architect to pull that together

16179
08:37:49,939 --> 08:37:52,374
in a formal design criteria

16180
08:37:52,374 --> 08:37:55,811
package. And as far as a

16181
08:37:55,811 --> 08:37:57,513
preliminary schedule goes. If

16182
08:37:57,513 --> 08:37:58,913
we continue to make progress at

16183
08:37:58,913 --> 08:38:00,783
this rate, I'm hoping to be

16184
08:38:00,783 --> 08:38:03,352
able to get this out on the

16185
08:38:03,352 --> 08:38:05,387
street appximately the 23rd

16186
08:38:05,387 --> 08:38:06,755
of JULY to the end of JULY,

16187
08:38:06,755 --> 08:38:09,755
we'd have a bidders conference

16188
08:38:10,250 --> 08:38:11,860
about 30 days later, assuming

16189
08:38:11,860 --> 08:38:14,663
JULY 30th questions would be

16190
08:38:14,663 --> 08:38:16,197
due AUGUST 4th. Responses to

16191
08:38:16,197 --> 08:38:18,700
any questions we would get

16192
08:38:18,700 --> 08:38:20,102
published by the 13th of AUGUST.

16193
08:38:20,102 --> 08:38:22,204
Proposals would be due

16194
08:38:22,204 --> 08:38:24,730
tentatively. SEPTEMBER 21st.

16195
08:38:24,730 --> 08:38:25,474
Depends on what feedback we get

16196
08:38:25,474 --> 08:38:27,642
from the developers, saying

16197
08:38:27,642 --> 08:38:28,744
that they MAY or MAY not need

16198
08:38:28,744 --> 08:38:30,179
additional time. We've already

16199
08:38:30,179 --> 08:38:33,179
built in about 60 days there

16200
08:38:33,449 --> 08:38:35,550
for them to work on this. Oral

16201
08:38:35,550 --> 08:38:37,190
presentations the first week of

16202
08:38:37,190 --> 08:38:38,854
OCTOBER, and then we would look

16203
08:38:38,854 --> 08:38:41,524
to come to the board for

16204
08:38:41,524 --> 08:38:42,791
approval by the 10th of

16205
08:38:42,791 --> 08:38:44,791
NOVEMBER.

16206
08:38:44,960 --> 08:38:46,696
>> Okay. Thank you for that. So

16207
08:38:46,696 --> 08:38:47,630
just to go back to my original

16208
08:38:47,630 --> 08:38:49,932
question, though, the people

16209
08:38:49,932 --> 08:38:52,932
that came and presented that's

16210
08:38:53,169 --> 08:38:56,169
not that's not moving forward.

16211
08:38:56,472 --> 08:38:57,873
We're now going for out for rfp.

16212
08:38:57,873 --> 08:38:59,675
And there could be a number of

16213
08:38:59,675 --> 08:39:02,770
other people that have the

16214
08:39:02,770 --> 08:39:04,477
opportunity to to present

16215
08:39:05,748 --> 08:39:08,148
something. Is that correct?

16216
08:39:11,987 --> 08:39:14,987
>> I'm gonna jump in here.

16217
08:39:15,892 --> 08:39:18,600
>> Yeah. So MRS. Hixon, Kriss

16218
08:39:18,600 --> 08:39:20,296
Akabusi so we've been working

16219
08:39:20,296 --> 08:39:21,697
and MRS. Bruner has really

16220
08:39:21,697 --> 08:39:23,132
things are converging, right?

16221
08:39:23,132 --> 08:39:24,934
Because we are almost done,

16222
08:39:24,934 --> 08:39:26,669
like you said, with the p three

16223
08:39:26,669 --> 08:39:29,906
rfp template, one of the things

16224
08:39:29,906 --> 08:39:31,740
we're doing, MISS MRS. Bruno,

16225
08:39:31,740 --> 08:39:32,775
MR. Soto is going to take the

16226
08:39:32,775 --> 08:39:34,876
policy. We had a meeting

16227
08:39:34,876 --> 08:39:36,120
yesterday and then incorporate.

16228
08:39:36,120 --> 08:39:37,513
This is where the design

16229
08:39:37,513 --> 08:39:38,548
criteria is coming in to

16230
08:39:38,548 --> 08:39:39,782
incorporate that into the

16231
08:39:39,782 --> 08:39:40,950
package for the p three. So

16232
08:39:40,950 --> 08:39:42,950
we're actually incorporating

16233
08:39:43,686 --> 08:39:46,880
the policy requirement into the

16234
08:39:46,880 --> 08:39:47,560
p three before it goes out.

16235
08:39:47,560 --> 08:39:50,560
Definitely you're going to be

16236
08:39:50,426 --> 08:39:52,280
seeing everything. So MRS.

16237
08:39:52,280 --> 08:39:55,280
Hixon the presentation that was

16238
08:39:55,498 --> 08:39:56,932
done last year, we've been

16239
08:39:56,932 --> 08:39:59,102
working. And there's a lot of

16240
08:39:59,102 --> 08:40:00,970
steps. And those steps are

16241
08:40:00,970 --> 08:40:03,139
nobody, to my knowledge, has

16242
08:40:03,139 --> 08:40:05,942
come and presented, you know,

16243
08:40:05,942 --> 08:40:08,942
meaning interested in doing any

16244
08:40:09,445 --> 08:40:11,448
development of Dave Thomas site.

16245
08:40:11,448 --> 08:40:13,583
So we've just been on this road

16246
08:40:13,583 --> 08:40:15,850
to make sure that we are doing

16247
08:40:15,850 --> 08:40:16,620
what we're supposed to be doing

16248
08:40:16,620 --> 08:40:17,820
and things converge, whereby

16249
08:40:17,820 --> 08:40:19,255
now there's going to be a

16250
08:40:19,255 --> 08:40:21,758
policy, and then the template

16251
08:40:21,758 --> 08:40:24,158
is definitely addressing the

16252
08:40:24,394 --> 08:40:26,129
statue requirements.

16253
08:40:26,129 --> 08:40:27,831
>> Okay, maybe I'm not

16254
08:40:27,831 --> 08:40:30,231
remembering. Right, but someone

16255
08:40:30,499 --> 08:40:31,968
came and showed us a design and

16256
08:40:31,968 --> 08:40:33,703
you know what could be done

16257
08:40:33,703 --> 08:40:33,970
there. So I guess I'm just

16258
08:40:33,970 --> 08:40:35,171
confused.

16259
08:40:35,171 --> 08:40:36,205
>> No, let me clarify. I know

16260
08:40:36,205 --> 08:40:37,374
what you're saying. Now when

16261
08:40:37,374 --> 08:40:39,409
when the presentation was done,

16262
08:40:39,409 --> 08:40:41,611
we returned. There was a three

16263
08:40:41,611 --> 08:40:42,979
conceptual layouts. That was a

16264
08:40:42,979 --> 08:40:44,815
component of that presentation

16265
08:40:44,815 --> 08:40:46,349
on JUNE 10th of what it could

16266
08:40:46,349 --> 08:40:48,510
look like. So that's what

16267
08:40:48,510 --> 08:40:49,252
that's what you're referring to,

16268
08:40:49,252 --> 08:40:51,288
because we wanted to present

16269
08:40:51,288 --> 08:40:53,523
what the conceptual layout MAY

16270
08:40:53,523 --> 08:40:54,958
be. But those are intellectual

16271
08:40:54,958 --> 08:40:56,526
properties. So it just what

16272
08:40:56,526 --> 08:40:57,794
could be. That's what was

16273
08:40:57,794 --> 08:40:58,996
presented to the board, but not

16274
08:40:58,996 --> 08:41:01,310
somebody presenting saying this

16275
08:41:01,310 --> 08:41:02,432
is what they want to build.

16276
08:41:02,432 --> 08:41:03,934
>> Okay, I appreciate that

16277
08:41:03,934 --> 08:41:06,690
because I guess I got it

16278
08:41:06,690 --> 08:41:07,971
jumbled. So thank you for that.

16279
08:41:07,971 --> 08:41:11,909
I would also say so if cities

16280
08:41:11,909 --> 08:41:13,209
are interested in having these

16281
08:41:13,209 --> 08:41:15,145
discussions, I think, yes, we

16282
08:41:15,145 --> 08:41:16,813
should go forward. But I just

16283
08:41:16,813 --> 08:41:19,216
want to bring up a point that I

16284
08:41:19,216 --> 08:41:21,251
think is, is really important

16285
08:41:21,251 --> 08:41:22,586
for us to consider. We have

16286
08:41:22,586 --> 08:41:24,880
some development that's

16287
08:41:24,880 --> 08:41:26,956
happening in the city of

16288
08:41:26,956 --> 08:41:29,226
Hollywood, and they're right

16289
08:41:29,226 --> 08:41:31,261
next to schools. And I don't

16290
08:41:31,261 --> 08:41:33,290
think until they started

16291
08:41:33,290 --> 08:41:35,198
building them, they really

16292
08:41:35,198 --> 08:41:36,633
understood the impact that

16293
08:41:36,633 --> 08:41:38,802
those buildings would have on

16294
08:41:38,802 --> 08:41:40,638
the privacy and safety of our

16295
08:41:40,638 --> 08:41:42,373
students, because how adjacent

16296
08:41:42,373 --> 08:41:44,941
they are. So I have some

16297
08:41:44,941 --> 08:41:46,677
concerns with building housing

16298
08:41:46,677 --> 08:41:47,778
so close to our schools,

16299
08:41:47,778 --> 08:41:49,780
because they're actually right

16300
08:41:49,780 --> 08:41:51,148
on the school land. And these

16301
08:41:51,148 --> 08:41:52,116
are actually buildings that are

16302
08:41:52,116 --> 08:41:54,510
across the street from the

16303
08:41:54,510 --> 08:41:56,453
school. But when you build up

16304
08:41:56,453 --> 08:41:59,453
too high, the balconies now

16305
08:42:00,424 --> 08:42:02,460
have access to seeing our

16306
08:42:02,460 --> 08:42:04,661
students. And I don't want to

16307
08:42:04,661 --> 08:42:06,897
get too detailed in here, but I

16308
08:42:06,897 --> 08:42:09,399
will just say there is a big I

16309
08:42:09,399 --> 08:42:12,399
personally have a big concern

16310
08:42:13,200 --> 08:42:15,473
about allowing housing to be so

16311
08:42:15,473 --> 08:42:17,742
close to our students on school

16312
08:42:17,742 --> 08:42:19,109
grounds and the height of the

16313
08:42:19,109 --> 08:42:20,778
building. So if we do have

16314
08:42:20,778 --> 08:42:22,780
these discussions and however

16315
08:42:22,780 --> 08:42:23,147
that moves forward, I think

16316
08:42:23,147 --> 08:42:25,216
it's really important that we

16317
08:42:25,216 --> 08:42:28,419
take all that into account as

16318
08:42:28,419 --> 08:42:32,619
we roll out how we might use

16319
08:42:33,557 --> 08:42:34,992
these spaces together. So I

16320
08:42:34,992 --> 08:42:36,727
agree with the chair about a

16321
08:42:36,727 --> 08:42:38,329
formal process for proposals

16322
08:42:38,329 --> 08:42:41,329
for land, because things kind

16323
08:42:41,465 --> 08:42:42,366
of came at us haphazardly. So

16324
08:42:42,366 --> 08:42:44,135
I'd like to see more formal,

16325
08:42:44,135 --> 08:42:45,360
and if I'm not mistaken, I

16326
08:42:45,360 --> 08:42:47,138
think there's a policy coming

16327
08:42:47,138 --> 08:42:48,939
forward already. So I

16328
08:42:48,939 --> 08:42:50,408
appreciate that. And my last

16329
08:42:50,408 --> 08:42:52,509
question is, it seems and I

16330
08:42:52,509 --> 08:42:54,979
will thank all my colleagues

16331
08:42:54,979 --> 08:42:57,915
for consensus to move forward

16332
08:42:57,915 --> 08:43:00,418
with the new Broward Health

16333
08:43:00,418 --> 08:43:02,286
proposal with Eagles Haven. And

16334
08:43:02,286 --> 08:43:04,540
I just was wondering when we

16335
08:43:04,540 --> 08:43:05,790
can see that contract coming to

16336
08:43:05,790 --> 08:43:09,990
the board so we can get moving

16337
08:43:11,229 --> 08:43:12,830
on this.

16338
08:43:12,830 --> 08:43:14,399
>> Our our intention is to

16339
08:43:14,399 --> 08:43:16,340
bring as soon as possible. But

16340
08:43:16,340 --> 08:43:17,669
MR. Yakubu. So how much time do

16341
08:43:17,669 --> 08:43:19,669
you need?

16342
08:43:21,306 --> 08:43:24,509
>> So I had spoken to the

16343
08:43:24,509 --> 08:43:25,710
outside Council as a proactive.

16344
08:43:25,710 --> 08:43:27,512
If the component depends on

16345
08:43:27,512 --> 08:43:28,980
what. Finally, the board gives

16346
08:43:28,980 --> 08:43:30,982
direction regarding. Ego saving

16347
08:43:30,982 --> 08:43:33,918
is taken out. So we've pretty

16348
08:43:33,918 --> 08:43:35,687
much come close to. The actual

16349
08:43:35,687 --> 08:43:37,589
sale has been nailed down in

16350
08:43:37,589 --> 08:43:39,657
the agreement of sale and

16351
08:43:39,657 --> 08:43:40,825
purchase. The student

16352
08:43:40,825 --> 08:43:43,225
engagement agreement is going

16353
08:43:43,594 --> 08:43:45,960
to be a component. So we MAY. I

16354
08:43:45,960 --> 08:43:47,299
spoke to the council. We MAY be

16355
08:43:47,299 --> 08:43:49,367
able to bring it on the 23rd if

16356
08:43:49,367 --> 08:43:50,101
you choose. That's what he told

16357
08:43:50,101 --> 08:43:51,569
me.

16358
08:43:51,569 --> 08:43:53,804
>> That's the goal, MR. Hixon,

16359
08:43:53,804 --> 08:43:55,473
is to bring it on the 23rd. And

16360
08:43:55,473 --> 08:43:56,975
then, if I MAY, MADAM Chair,

16361
08:43:56,975 --> 08:43:58,420
just add a little bit to the

16362
08:43:58,420 --> 08:44:00,442
discussion of Broward Health

16363
08:44:00,912 --> 08:44:03,160
and gc. Please jump in as

16364
08:44:03,160 --> 08:44:05,349
needed. Now that we have a

16365
08:44:05,349 --> 08:44:07,451
board consensus, Broward Health

16366
08:44:07,451 --> 08:44:09,888
now is going to issue a new

16367
08:44:09,888 --> 08:44:11,722
letter of intent. Their

16368
08:44:11,722 --> 08:44:14,122
original letter of intent

16369
08:44:14,359 --> 08:44:15,694
included the value of the space

16370
08:44:15,694 --> 08:44:16,862
that they were going to give to

16371
08:44:16,862 --> 08:44:19,664
us, that we were going to

16372
08:44:19,664 --> 08:44:21,660
sublease to Eagles Haven. So

16373
08:44:21,660 --> 08:44:22,500
since that's not going to

16374
08:44:22,500 --> 08:44:23,735
happen, that's going to be

16375
08:44:23,735 --> 08:44:26,735
taken out and the purchase

16376
08:44:26,772 --> 08:44:29,410
price is going to be 14 million,

16377
08:44:29,410 --> 08:44:31,242
anything outside of that in

16378
08:44:31,242 --> 08:44:32,977
terms of donation will be done

16379
08:44:32,977 --> 08:44:34,479
between Broward Health and

16380
08:44:34,479 --> 08:44:36,882
Eagles Haven. It would not be

16381
08:44:36,882 --> 08:44:39,818
part of the letter of intent or

16382
08:44:39,818 --> 08:44:43,322
the purchase of of that land.

16383
08:44:43,322 --> 08:44:44,423
But gc. In the.

16384
08:44:44,423 --> 08:44:45,690
>> End, the only other thing

16385
08:44:45,690 --> 08:44:47,359
that I would add is that the

16386
08:44:47,359 --> 08:44:50,359
board really does need to

16387
08:44:51,620 --> 08:44:52,431
understand that this is not our

16388
08:44:52,431 --> 08:44:54,133
negotiations. Basically, this

16389
08:44:54,133 --> 08:44:56,468
is a donation from Broward

16390
08:44:56,468 --> 08:44:58,269
Health, and they're the the

16391
08:44:58,269 --> 08:45:01,269
only person that can really

16392
08:45:01,406 --> 08:45:03,175
enforce anything would be jafco

16393
08:45:03,175 --> 08:45:04,677
through Eagles Haven. This is

16394
08:45:04,677 --> 08:45:06,111
not a board transaction. The

16395
08:45:06,111 --> 08:45:08,511
only transaction that we're

16396
08:45:08,580 --> 08:45:10,316
involved in is the sale of the

16397
08:45:10,316 --> 08:45:12,716
land for the 14 million.

16398
08:45:12,918 --> 08:45:15,487
>> Yes, I appreciate that. And

16399
08:45:15,487 --> 08:45:18,230
I, I think it actually makes it

16400
08:45:18,230 --> 08:45:19,625
cleaner and easier. And I'm

16401
08:45:19,625 --> 08:45:20,525
sure everybody is going to come

16402
08:45:20,525 --> 08:45:21,727
through with what they're

16403
08:45:21,727 --> 08:45:23,695
supposed to do. So thank you

16404
08:45:23,695 --> 08:45:25,931
again to my colleagues for

16405
08:45:25,931 --> 08:45:27,333
giving consensus. And I think

16406
08:45:27,333 --> 08:45:27,632
that's it for me. Thanks so

16407
08:45:27,632 --> 08:45:29,632
much.

16408
08:45:31,202 --> 08:45:33,602
>> Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff.

16409
08:45:33,806 --> 08:45:36,806
>> On page five of the

16410
08:45:37,900 --> 08:45:39,211
presentation, can staff give a

16411
08:45:39,211 --> 08:45:42,811
board member follow up and put

16412
08:45:43,482 --> 08:45:45,318
in a guess on Winton when

16413
08:45:45,318 --> 08:45:47,787
Rogers, where the preschool is

16414
08:45:47,787 --> 08:45:51,122
located on the the map. And

16415
08:45:51,122 --> 08:45:53,225
then my question is this orange

16416
08:45:53,225 --> 08:45:54,460
line. Is that showing. What is

16417
08:45:54,460 --> 08:45:55,961
that actually showing? Is that

16418
08:45:55,961 --> 08:45:57,629
just showing like that's where

16419
08:45:57,629 --> 08:45:59,732
the schools are divided.

16420
08:45:59,732 --> 08:46:01,467
>> So thank you, MISS Alhadeff,

16421
08:46:01,467 --> 08:46:02,935
this is Valerie Wanza. It's

16422
08:46:02,935 --> 08:46:06,535
okay. I'm sorry. I just started

16423
08:46:07,639 --> 08:46:11,239
talking. So on page five, what

16424
08:46:11,543 --> 08:46:13,379
you see is initially when the

16425
08:46:13,379 --> 08:46:15,915
city of Fort Lauderdale entered

16426
08:46:15,915 --> 08:46:19,484
a proposal to potentially do a

16427
08:46:19,484 --> 08:46:21,884
public safety training complex

16428
08:46:21,920 --> 08:46:24,920
there. That's where we actually

16429
08:46:25,591 --> 08:46:27,260
drew the line for separation

16430
08:46:27,260 --> 08:46:29,426
between everything. To the

16431
08:46:29,562 --> 08:46:32,432
right is what the city would

16432
08:46:32,432 --> 08:46:34,300
potentially occupy on the

16433
08:46:34,300 --> 08:46:35,702
seagull side of that parcel of

16434
08:46:35,702 --> 08:46:37,470
land, because, as DR. Zeman

16435
08:46:37,470 --> 08:46:39,400
said, this entire parcel of

16436
08:46:39,400 --> 08:46:41,107
land is really one parcel of

16437
08:46:41,107 --> 08:46:42,875
land, seagull and wooden.

16438
08:46:42,875 --> 08:46:44,777
Everything to the left of that

16439
08:46:44,777 --> 08:46:47,613
orange line is everything that

16440
08:46:47,613 --> 08:46:49,349
is being occupied by wooden

16441
08:46:49,349 --> 08:46:51,851
Rogers. To ensure that they

16442
08:46:51,851 --> 08:46:54,420
have the space and the capacity

16443
08:46:54,420 --> 08:46:56,889
to operate the school that is

16444
08:46:56,889 --> 08:46:59,289
now consolidated Seagull and

16445
08:46:59,759 --> 08:47:02,695
Wooden. We will put on the map

16446
08:47:02,695 --> 08:47:04,864
exactly where the child care

16447
08:47:04,864 --> 08:47:06,632
wing is, and it's hard for me

16448
08:47:06,632 --> 08:47:08,670
to kind of tell you, but I

16449
08:47:08,670 --> 08:47:09,536
physically know where it is.

16450
08:47:09,536 --> 08:47:11,304
But we will certainly do a

16451
08:47:11,304 --> 08:47:13,390
follow up and delineate for the

16452
08:47:13,390 --> 08:47:17,239
board where it is. If you see

16453
08:47:17,777 --> 08:47:20,130
those just adjacent to the the

16454
08:47:20,130 --> 08:47:21,680
orange line, there are two

16455
08:47:21,680 --> 08:47:23,516
buildings and the, the, the

16456
08:47:23,516 --> 08:47:25,819
babies that the nursery is to

16457
08:47:25,819 --> 08:47:27,153
the left of that. So they are,

16458
08:47:27,153 --> 08:47:28,288
they are not in those two

16459
08:47:28,288 --> 08:47:30,230
buildings that are right there

16460
08:47:30,230 --> 08:47:32,250
by the Orange Line. They're a

16461
08:47:32,250 --> 08:47:35,428
little bit further west, but we

16462
08:47:35,428 --> 08:47:37,364
can provide for the board a

16463
08:47:37,364 --> 08:47:39,764
cleaner depiction that shows

16464
08:47:40,133 --> 08:47:43,200
you exactly where the babies

16465
08:47:43,200 --> 08:47:45,402
are on the campus.

16466
08:47:45,572 --> 08:47:47,274
>> And then is there a physical

16467
08:47:47,274 --> 08:47:49,543
fence that separates the two

16468
08:47:49,543 --> 08:47:52,379
schools or. No, it's just one.

16469
08:47:52,379 --> 08:47:54,548
>> So there will be. And there

16470
08:47:54,548 --> 08:47:56,116
there always was some type of

16471
08:47:56,116 --> 08:47:57,550
fence there that separates them.

16472
08:47:57,550 --> 08:47:59,653
Of course, we would have had we

16473
08:47:59,653 --> 08:48:01,455
were going to move the fence to

16474
08:48:01,455 --> 08:48:02,823
allow for the appropriate space

16475
08:48:02,823 --> 08:48:05,993
that we need. But yes, there

16476
08:48:05,993 --> 08:48:07,794
were absolutely be a fence that

16477
08:48:07,794 --> 08:48:10,290
would go up so that there's

16478
08:48:10,290 --> 08:48:12,232
clear separation of what would

16479
08:48:12,232 --> 08:48:14,334
be on that quote unquote,

16480
08:48:14,334 --> 08:48:16,690
seagull side side, and that

16481
08:48:16,690 --> 08:48:18,639
clearly separates it from the

16482
08:48:18,639 --> 08:48:19,673
wooden Rogers side.

16483
08:48:19,673 --> 08:48:21,841
>> Okay. Thank you for

16484
08:48:21,841 --> 08:48:24,778
explaining that. So I'm for

16485
08:48:24,778 --> 08:48:27,614
option one, having the school

16486
08:48:27,614 --> 08:48:29,449
safety training center site, I

16487
08:48:29,449 --> 08:48:32,653
think that the board also needs

16488
08:48:32,653 --> 08:48:36,253
to not only look at the

16489
08:48:36,257 --> 08:48:38,792
financial part of it, but the,

16490
08:48:38,792 --> 08:48:41,428
the value that the district

16491
08:48:41,428 --> 08:48:43,464
will gain to have a training

16492
08:48:43,464 --> 08:48:45,599
center for SROs and our

16493
08:48:45,599 --> 08:48:48,536
guardians, for them having a

16494
08:48:48,536 --> 08:48:50,705
place to go to actually do the

16495
08:48:50,705 --> 08:48:53,105
physical training, because we

16496
08:48:53,874 --> 08:48:56,420
all know that in a life

16497
08:48:56,420 --> 08:48:57,911
threatening situation that your

16498
08:48:57,911 --> 08:49:00,810
body goes into fight or flight

16499
08:49:00,810 --> 08:49:01,782
and you fall back to your

16500
08:49:01,782 --> 08:49:04,170
training. So there is such a

16501
08:49:04,170 --> 08:49:06,119
high level of value of us

16502
08:49:06,119 --> 08:49:08,489
having our own training center

16503
08:49:08,489 --> 08:49:10,458
for our SROs and our guardians

16504
08:49:10,458 --> 08:49:13,360
to go to, to have their own

16505
08:49:13,360 --> 08:49:15,963
place to train. So I really

16506
08:49:15,963 --> 08:49:18,699
would like the board to reflect

16507
08:49:18,699 --> 08:49:20,500
on that part of it with

16508
08:49:20,500 --> 08:49:22,703
creating this as a training

16509
08:49:22,703 --> 08:49:24,505
center and not only for, for

16510
08:49:24,505 --> 08:49:26,707
our district, but then to allow

16511
08:49:26,707 --> 08:49:29,107
other districts, potentially or

16512
08:49:29,977 --> 08:49:31,679
agencies to come in and them to

16513
08:49:31,679 --> 08:49:34,182
be charged something to do the

16514
08:49:34,182 --> 08:49:37,182
training there. But, you know,

16515
08:49:37,218 --> 08:49:41,550
we I think it shows a lot that

16516
08:49:41,550 --> 08:49:43,224
the board is values the

16517
08:49:43,224 --> 08:49:46,224
training part of making sure

16518
08:49:46,427 --> 08:49:48,729
that in a lockdown situation

16519
08:49:48,729 --> 08:49:51,499
that our officers know exactly

16520
08:49:51,499 --> 08:49:53,668
what to do and, and where to go

16521
08:49:53,668 --> 08:49:56,437
to take down a potential threat.

16522
08:49:56,437 --> 08:49:58,739
Thank you. Oh I'm sorry. Hold

16523
08:49:58,739 --> 08:50:00,508
on. And Deerfield Beach, I

16524
08:50:00,508 --> 08:50:03,410
would like to see the two

16525
08:50:03,410 --> 08:50:05,179
options to lease or sell and

16526
08:50:05,179 --> 08:50:07,282
Margate Middle School. Let's

16527
08:50:07,282 --> 08:50:09,817
hold on that. And you know, I'd

16528
08:50:09,817 --> 08:50:12,386
like to see what it would be to

16529
08:50:12,386 --> 08:50:15,256
build a new building and the

16530
08:50:15,256 --> 08:50:18,459
cost to doing that. And I just

16531
08:50:18,459 --> 08:50:21,290
for feedback to Doctor Hepburn

16532
08:50:21,290 --> 08:50:23,831
with staff is on page four with

16533
08:50:23,831 --> 08:50:25,599
the options. That was really

16534
08:50:25,599 --> 08:50:26,834
helpful. I would have loved to

16535
08:50:26,834 --> 08:50:28,903
see that, you know, throughout

16536
08:50:28,903 --> 08:50:30,772
the document for all the other

16537
08:50:30,772 --> 08:50:32,840
schools, because it just makes

16538
08:50:32,840 --> 08:50:34,342
it very concise and easy. Thank

16539
08:50:34,342 --> 08:50:35,477
you.

16540
08:50:35,477 --> 08:50:36,578
>> Thank you.

16541
08:50:36,578 --> 08:50:38,546
>> DR. Zeman thank you so much,

16542
08:50:38,546 --> 08:50:39,714
chair. I worried a little bit.

16543
08:50:39,714 --> 08:50:40,848
We're talking past each other.

16544
08:50:40,848 --> 08:50:41,917
Chair, when you brought up the

16545
08:50:41,917 --> 08:50:44,850
point about a process for

16546
08:50:44,850 --> 08:50:46,187
disposing of land, and then we

16547
08:50:46,187 --> 08:50:48,322
talked about a policy for p3sp3

16548
08:50:48,322 --> 08:50:49,824
is one way to dispose of land.

16549
08:50:49,824 --> 08:50:50,825
But I believe chair, that we

16550
08:50:50,825 --> 08:50:52,994
actually need a better policy

16551
08:50:52,994 --> 08:50:55,129
for disposing of land like

16552
08:50:55,129 --> 08:50:56,331
other agencies have figured out

16553
08:50:56,331 --> 08:50:57,365
how to say, okay, it's disposed

16554
08:50:57,365 --> 08:51:00,602
and then they put it up for

16555
08:51:00,602 --> 08:51:01,602
sale. They have a process that

16556
08:51:01,602 --> 08:51:03,471
allows multiple people to come

16557
08:51:03,471 --> 08:51:04,673
in and propose different things,

16558
08:51:04,673 --> 08:51:06,740
even though they also, chair

16559
08:51:06,740 --> 08:51:07,408
have to get the city's

16560
08:51:07,408 --> 08:51:08,543
agreement on zoning and

16561
08:51:08,543 --> 08:51:10,746
permissions and all that ahead

16562
08:51:10,746 --> 08:51:11,913
of time. But, but then you get

16563
08:51:11,913 --> 08:51:12,981
more than one. And I think

16564
08:51:12,981 --> 08:51:14,783
that's really important for us

16565
08:51:14,783 --> 08:51:16,685
to get the best value in the

16566
08:51:16,685 --> 08:51:17,685
future. So I just don't want to

16567
08:51:17,685 --> 08:51:18,954
talk past ourselves. I think

16568
08:51:18,954 --> 08:51:21,522
right now, chair, we could ask

16569
08:51:21,522 --> 08:51:22,958
for a process for disposal of

16570
08:51:22,958 --> 08:51:25,940
land that is separate from the

16571
08:51:25,940 --> 08:51:26,527
policy on p3s. Is that fair,

16572
08:51:26,527 --> 08:51:28,527
general Council?

16573
08:51:29,798 --> 08:51:31,967
>> So if I MAY policy 8020. So

16574
08:51:31,967 --> 08:51:34,367
that's probably I'm sorry, 8030

16575
08:51:34,802 --> 08:51:35,904
is probably if. And I just say

16576
08:51:35,904 --> 08:51:37,339
that to the General Council, as

16577
08:51:37,339 --> 08:51:39,641
you're looking at prioritizing

16578
08:51:39,641 --> 08:51:41,910
policies through the process,

16579
08:51:41,910 --> 08:51:43,879
policy 8030 is our policy for

16580
08:51:43,879 --> 08:51:45,646
the disposal of land. So that

16581
08:51:45,646 --> 08:51:46,748
MAY be something if you want to

16582
08:51:46,748 --> 08:51:47,783
prioritize based on the

16583
08:51:47,783 --> 08:51:50,183
feedback from the board.

16584
08:51:51,119 --> 08:51:54,623
>> So so you have a policy that

16585
08:51:54,623 --> 08:51:57,159
is also coming forward for

16586
08:51:57,159 --> 08:51:59,695
review next week, which is

16587
08:51:59,695 --> 08:52:01,163
about the surplus of land. And

16588
08:52:01,163 --> 08:52:02,798
then what we need to do from

16589
08:52:02,798 --> 08:52:04,667
that point is to also create

16590
08:52:04,667 --> 08:52:04,933
the processes and the SOPs that

16591
08:52:04,933 --> 08:52:06,636
go along.

16592
08:52:06,636 --> 08:52:07,869
>> With it. That's my point, is

16593
08:52:07,869 --> 08:52:09,338
that we are now shifting to a

16594
08:52:09,338 --> 08:52:10,472
new management structure, where

16595
08:52:10,472 --> 08:52:12,341
John Sullivan and the

16596
08:52:12,341 --> 08:52:13,709
superintendent and staff are

16597
08:52:13,709 --> 08:52:14,843
responsible for creating the

16598
08:52:14,843 --> 08:52:16,946
process. They can do that right

16599
08:52:16,946 --> 08:52:18,147
now, and that would satisfy the

16600
08:52:18,147 --> 08:52:19,148
chair's interest. And I think

16601
08:52:19,148 --> 08:52:20,983
the board's interest, to be

16602
08:52:20,983 --> 08:52:22,785
honest with you, about let's

16603
08:52:22,785 --> 08:52:24,119
modernize our disposal of of

16604
08:52:24,119 --> 08:52:25,420
land. We didn't do a lot before,

16605
08:52:25,420 --> 08:52:26,555
but I think we're going to be

16606
08:52:26,555 --> 08:52:28,424
in that business for the next

16607
08:52:28,424 --> 08:52:29,658
half a dozen years or so. So

16608
08:52:29,658 --> 08:52:32,795
why don't we get the process

16609
08:52:32,795 --> 08:52:34,396
right now? So, MR. Sullivan,

16610
08:52:34,396 --> 08:52:35,531
can we take a follow up on that,

16611
08:52:35,531 --> 08:52:37,266
on whether or not we can get

16612
08:52:37,266 --> 08:52:38,366
the process done for disposal

16613
08:52:38,366 --> 08:52:39,602
of land, since we're we're

16614
08:52:39,602 --> 08:52:40,736
moving it out of policy and

16615
08:52:40,736 --> 08:52:41,103
putting it under the

16616
08:52:41,103 --> 08:52:42,471
superintendent.

16617
08:52:42,471 --> 08:52:42,738
>> Yeah. We can provide a

16618
08:52:42,738 --> 08:52:44,738
follow up.

16619
08:52:46,509 --> 08:52:48,909
>> Thank you. Actually, chair,

16620
08:52:48,978 --> 08:52:50,679
I think can we get consensus on

16621
08:52:50,679 --> 08:52:51,113
just asking for that process to

16622
08:52:51,113 --> 08:52:53,113
be developed?

16623
08:52:54,717 --> 08:52:57,717
>> Does anyone object to that?

16624
08:52:58,688 --> 08:52:59,455
Anyone online objecting?

16625
08:52:59,455 --> 08:53:00,522
>> Nope.

16626
08:53:00,522 --> 08:53:01,691
>> No.

16627
08:53:01,691 --> 08:53:03,759
>> I just might want to make

16628
08:53:03,759 --> 08:53:05,895
sure we weren't because because

16629
08:53:05,895 --> 08:53:07,296
p three and selling land is

16630
08:53:07,296 --> 08:53:09,132
really distinct thing. Second

16631
08:53:09,132 --> 08:53:10,967
thing when we did Dave Thomas

16632
08:53:10,967 --> 08:53:13,469
as a p three it was 100%

16633
08:53:13,469 --> 08:53:15,671
affordable. So I'm not sure why

16634
08:53:15,671 --> 08:53:18,441
MR. White is talking about 50

16635
08:53:18,441 --> 08:53:21,441
to 100% now. When did that

16636
08:53:25,315 --> 08:53:26,816
change?

16637
08:53:26,816 --> 08:53:28,551
>> John White Director of

16638
08:53:28,551 --> 08:53:30,530
Procurement we've got to get

16639
08:53:30,530 --> 08:53:31,788
final agreement with the city

16640
08:53:31,788 --> 08:53:34,788
of Pompano Beach, and that's

16641
08:53:35,570 --> 08:53:36,893
what that's why we're going for

16642
08:53:36,893 --> 08:53:39,293
100%. But Pompano Beach might

16643
08:53:40,960 --> 08:53:42,298
not allow us to do 100%. So

16644
08:53:42,298 --> 08:53:43,699
that's ongoing discussion.

16645
08:53:43,699 --> 08:53:44,734
>> We have already gained

16646
08:53:44,734 --> 08:53:45,969
consensus with the City of

16647
08:53:45,969 --> 08:53:47,637
Pompano, and you can go back

16648
08:53:47,637 --> 08:53:48,705
andd look at soso meeting notes

16649
08:53:48,705 --> 08:53:49,873
om our former chihief

16650
08:53:49,873 --> 08:53:50,940
cilitieses officicer thahat

16651
08:53:50,940 --> 08:53:52,940
tetent.

16652
08:53:53,476 --> 08:53:54,510
>> Okay. I'm I'm good with that.

16653
08:53:54,510 --> 08:53:55,678
>> Yep. I just don't want to

16654
08:53:55,678 --> 08:53:57,380
ask twice because then they

16655
08:53:57,380 --> 08:53:57,780
then they might think they can

16656
08:53:57,780 --> 08:53:59,780
go back.

16657
08:54:00,250 --> 08:54:00,649
>> Okay, so I'm coming in a

16658
08:54:00,649 --> 08:54:01,117
little.

16659
08:54:01,117 --> 08:54:01,918
>> And the reason.

16660
08:54:01,918 --> 08:54:03,787
>> They did that.

16661
08:54:03,787 --> 08:54:04,788
>> Is that the housing that's

16662
08:54:04,788 --> 08:54:06,880
being built around the City

16663
08:54:06,880 --> 08:54:07,557
Hall complex, all of that

16664
08:54:07,557 --> 08:54:08,925
entire in massive complex

16665
08:54:08,925 --> 08:54:10,327
they're doing is market rate.

16666
08:54:10,327 --> 08:54:11,761
And so they said, yes, it's

16667
08:54:11,761 --> 08:54:13,529
okay. And they have a special

16668
08:54:13,529 --> 08:54:14,630
zone that they could do 100%

16669
08:54:14,630 --> 08:54:15,764
affordable because everything

16670
08:54:15,764 --> 08:54:17,133
across the street is

16671
08:54:17,133 --> 08:54:19,368
marketplace. They really like

16672
08:54:19,368 --> 08:54:20,437
our employees being there,

16673
08:54:20,437 --> 08:54:22,837
partaking in the transportation

16674
08:54:24,107 --> 08:54:25,241
and the city hall, you know,

16675
08:54:25,241 --> 08:54:28,241
mixed use property that they're

16676
08:54:28,378 --> 08:54:29,746
building across the street.

16677
08:54:29,746 --> 08:54:31,648
>> And I mean, to DR. Zeman

16678
08:54:31,648 --> 08:54:34,785
point, I, I feel like I keep

16679
08:54:34,785 --> 08:54:36,987
saying, I don't love getting

16680
08:54:36,987 --> 08:54:38,856
proposals in my junk folder for

16681
08:54:38,856 --> 08:54:39,856
a piece of land that is

16682
08:54:39,856 --> 08:54:42,256
millions and millions of

16683
08:54:42,392 --> 08:54:46,296
dollars. Like that is not how a

16684
08:54:46,296 --> 08:54:48,696
serious organization sells or

16685
08:54:48,932 --> 08:54:49,999
leases or does anything with

16686
08:54:49,999 --> 08:54:51,868
their land. That's. I don't

16687
08:54:51,868 --> 08:54:53,203
know how else to say it, MISS

16688
08:54:53,203 --> 08:54:55,203
Bulman.

16689
08:54:56,406 --> 08:54:58,542
>> Just two little questions in

16690
08:54:58,542 --> 08:55:00,377
regards to the Eagles haven. If

16691
08:55:00,377 --> 08:55:03,313
we're getting a new letter of

16692
08:55:03,313 --> 08:55:05,470
intent, then how are we? I'm

16693
08:55:05,470 --> 08:55:07,684
I'm agreeing to this because

16694
08:55:07,684 --> 08:55:10,487
we're there's a donation. So

16695
08:55:10,487 --> 08:55:10,754
how do we know that that's

16696
08:55:10,754 --> 08:55:12,754
happening?

16697
08:55:13,690 --> 08:55:15,124
>> I don't.

16698
08:55:15,124 --> 08:55:16,926
>> MR. Sullivan.

16699
08:55:16,926 --> 08:55:18,696
>> They've made public

16700
08:55:18,696 --> 08:55:20,530
commitments to that. But it

16701
08:55:20,530 --> 08:55:23,767
won't be part of our agreement

16702
08:55:23,767 --> 08:55:24,934
that the board would vote on.

16703
08:55:24,934 --> 08:55:26,670
>> Okay. I mean, if everyone

16704
08:55:26,670 --> 08:55:28,438
else feels good about that. But

16705
08:55:28,438 --> 08:55:29,539
I'm personally putting on the

16706
08:55:29,539 --> 08:55:30,941
record that I'm agreeing to

16707
08:55:30,941 --> 08:55:31,908
this based on them publicly

16708
08:55:31,908 --> 08:55:34,908
stating that they're going to

16709
08:55:35,244 --> 08:55:36,814
do this. Otherwise I might have

16710
08:55:36,814 --> 08:55:38,482
a different opinion. And then

16711
08:55:38,482 --> 08:55:41,418
my second question is I wanted

16712
08:55:41,418 --> 08:55:43,220
to revisit Deerfield because I,

16713
08:55:43,220 --> 08:55:46,890
I wasn't really clear on what

16714
08:55:46,890 --> 08:55:47,490
was being asked. So we have a

16715
08:55:47,490 --> 08:55:48,992
there's currently an easement

16716
08:55:48,992 --> 08:55:50,160
that they're not, they're not

16717
08:55:50,160 --> 08:55:50,460
paying for.

16718
08:55:50,460 --> 08:55:52,460
>> Correct.

16719
08:55:52,929 --> 08:55:54,632
>> So and so is, are we is, is

16720
08:55:54,632 --> 08:55:56,566
the option either to sell the

16721
08:55:56,566 --> 08:55:57,668
land to them for an

16722
08:55:57,668 --> 08:55:59,668
undetermined price? Because

16723
08:56:00,104 --> 08:56:01,906
there's nothing I didn't see a

16724
08:56:01,906 --> 08:56:04,775
cost or to lease it to them.

16725
08:56:04,775 --> 08:56:06,977
>> So it's to keep the easement

16726
08:56:06,977 --> 08:56:10,580
agreement. So and I was kind of

16727
08:56:10,580 --> 08:56:11,615
getting a little interchanging

16728
08:56:11,615 --> 08:56:13,350
words that I should not have

16729
08:56:13,350 --> 08:56:15,850
been. So we currently, if you

16730
08:56:15,850 --> 08:56:18,685
look on slide 28 and if beacon

16731
08:56:18,889 --> 08:56:20,791
can put up slide 28, for

16732
08:56:20,791 --> 08:56:22,791
approximately 60 years, there

16733
08:56:23,260 --> 08:56:24,829
has been an agreement in effect

16734
08:56:24,829 --> 08:56:26,864
with the city for the use of

16735
08:56:26,864 --> 08:56:28,966
the easement for parking. And

16736
08:56:28,966 --> 08:56:30,735
that is at no cost. Correct?

16737
08:56:30,735 --> 08:56:32,970
MR. Okay. That is at no cost.

16738
08:56:32,970 --> 08:56:35,720
The city approached us about

16739
08:56:35,720 --> 08:56:36,974
possibly purchasing that. We

16740
08:56:36,974 --> 08:56:39,974
have not done an appraisal.

16741
08:56:40,178 --> 08:56:43,778
Correct. Okay. We have not done

16742
08:56:44,820 --> 08:56:46,350
an appraisal to determine the

16743
08:56:46,350 --> 08:56:47,618
value. So we were we came to

16744
08:56:47,618 --> 08:56:48,885
the board or we're here today

16745
08:56:48,885 --> 08:56:50,621
to see, is that something that,

16746
08:56:50,621 --> 08:56:51,856
you know, you want us to go

16747
08:56:51,856 --> 08:56:53,690
ahead and look at? Do we want

16748
08:56:53,690 --> 08:56:54,659
to go ahead and go through the

16749
08:56:54,659 --> 08:56:56,594
appraisal process and go go

16750
08:56:56,594 --> 08:56:58,128
down that route? Or do we want

16751
08:56:58,128 --> 08:56:59,530
to just continue with the

16752
08:56:59,530 --> 08:57:01,332
easement agreement process that

16753
08:57:01,332 --> 08:57:03,868
we have been doing for the

16754
08:57:03,868 --> 08:57:05,236
better part of 60 years?

16755
08:57:05,236 --> 08:57:06,237
>> So now that I'm thinking

16756
08:57:06,237 --> 08:57:07,238
about this a little bit

16757
08:57:07,238 --> 08:57:08,273
differently, because I didn't

16758
08:57:08,273 --> 08:57:09,240
understand at all what was

16759
08:57:09,240 --> 08:57:11,420
happening before, so I

16760
08:57:11,420 --> 08:57:13,210
apologize. I guess it begs the

16761
08:57:13,210 --> 08:57:15,747
question of why this would be

16762
08:57:15,747 --> 08:57:17,248
coming up all of a sudden,

16763
08:57:17,248 --> 08:57:18,583
after 60 years of using the

16764
08:57:18,583 --> 08:57:20,719
parking lot for free.

16765
08:57:20,719 --> 08:57:23,200
>> Go ahead. Yes, you MAY talk.

16766
08:57:23,200 --> 08:57:25,457
>> So there's two components at

16767
08:57:25,457 --> 08:57:27,592
that school site. That is an

16768
08:57:27,592 --> 08:57:29,992
historical building that's been

16769
08:57:31,196 --> 08:57:34,196
boarded up. And the city

16770
08:57:35,165 --> 08:57:36,334
manager. That building is

16771
08:57:36,334 --> 08:57:39,334
historical, so you can demolish

16772
08:57:39,904 --> 08:57:41,600
it. I'm trying to remember it's

16773
08:57:41,600 --> 08:57:42,406
pretty big. I'm trying to

16774
08:57:42,406 --> 08:57:44,843
remember the square footage. So

16775
08:57:44,843 --> 08:57:47,843
the city was interested in

16776
08:57:48,113 --> 08:57:49,547
renovating the building. And

16777
08:57:49,547 --> 08:57:51,749
then they're interested in

16778
08:57:51,749 --> 08:57:54,286
buying the building and trying

16779
08:57:54,286 --> 08:57:56,788
to do like a cultural community

16780
08:57:56,788 --> 08:57:58,924
facility with us being able to

16781
08:57:58,924 --> 08:58:01,910
utilize or they want to lease

16782
08:58:01,910 --> 08:58:03,328
it. So our administration

16783
08:58:03,328 --> 08:58:05,396
through the superintendent is

16784
08:58:05,396 --> 08:58:06,998
preferably we want to listen.

16785
08:58:06,998 --> 08:58:08,299
So then the city said, okay, we

16786
08:58:08,299 --> 08:58:10,134
have this little piece over

16787
08:58:10,134 --> 08:58:12,137
here. We also want to buy it.

16788
08:58:12,137 --> 08:58:13,705
So that's how that conversation.

16789
08:58:13,705 --> 08:58:16,575
So it wasn't just they came to

16790
08:58:16,575 --> 08:58:17,709
us for the parking. It was

16791
08:58:17,709 --> 08:58:19,110
starting with the historical

16792
08:58:19,110 --> 08:58:20,245
building that's on that school

16793
08:58:20,245 --> 08:58:21,212
site, same school site, and

16794
08:58:21,212 --> 08:58:22,481
it's building one.

16795
08:58:22,481 --> 08:58:24,216
>> So I guess we would need I

16796
08:58:24,216 --> 08:58:25,249
would need more information. I

16797
08:58:25,249 --> 08:58:27,510
don't even understand. There

16798
08:58:27,510 --> 08:58:28,520
seems to be more complicated

16799
08:58:28,520 --> 08:58:29,954
than what was initially

16800
08:58:29,954 --> 08:58:31,456
presented to us. I'd like to

16801
08:58:31,456 --> 08:58:32,757
see the whole story and what

16802
08:58:32,757 --> 08:58:35,260
we're looking at, so we can

16803
08:58:35,260 --> 08:58:37,829
make an educated decision about,

16804
08:58:37,829 --> 08:58:39,231
you know, because I, I don't

16805
08:58:39,231 --> 08:58:41,631
immediately have a problem

16806
08:58:41,733 --> 08:58:43,302
selling it to another

16807
08:58:43,302 --> 08:58:44,969
municipality. I, I would feel

16808
08:58:44,969 --> 08:58:46,805
more comfortable sending it to

16809
08:58:46,805 --> 08:58:48,390
a municipality than for a

16810
08:58:48,390 --> 08:58:49,708
private developer. I wouldn't

16811
08:58:49,708 --> 08:58:50,942
want to do that at all. But I

16812
08:58:50,942 --> 08:58:52,644
would like to know the details

16813
08:58:52,644 --> 08:58:53,645
of this before I make a

16814
08:58:53,645 --> 08:58:55,547
decision.

16815
08:58:55,547 --> 08:58:57,480
>> We can, we can we don't have

16816
08:58:57,480 --> 08:58:58,417
to do that today. Right? That's

16817
08:58:58,417 --> 08:59:00,152
not an immediate decision. So

16818
08:59:00,152 --> 08:59:02,821
we can absolutely bring back

16819
08:59:02,821 --> 08:59:04,456
additional information for the

16820
08:59:04,456 --> 08:59:05,958
board to contemplate.

16821
08:59:05,958 --> 08:59:07,693
>> Okay. Thank you. Item.

16822
08:59:07,693 --> 08:59:08,794
Thanks. That's it.

16823
08:59:08,794 --> 08:59:10,794
>> MR. Bruno.

16824
08:59:10,963 --> 08:59:12,731
>> So I want to make sure that

16825
08:59:12,731 --> 08:59:14,899
the board understands and that

16826
08:59:14,899 --> 08:59:16,335
members of the public also

16827
08:59:16,335 --> 08:59:18,837
understands. There is a very

16828
08:59:18,837 --> 08:59:20,306
specific process for both

16829
08:59:20,306 --> 08:59:22,740
public private partnerships as

16830
08:59:22,740 --> 08:59:23,542
well as sales. And next week,

16831
08:59:23,542 --> 08:59:25,711
when the board, hopefully the

16832
08:59:25,711 --> 08:59:27,513
board approves the two policies,

16833
08:59:27,513 --> 08:59:30,716
you will have to go through the

16834
08:59:30,716 --> 08:59:32,151
bidding process for surplus

16835
08:59:32,151 --> 08:59:33,252
land. It cannot be sent

16836
08:59:33,252 --> 08:59:35,788
something that's just sent to

16837
08:59:35,788 --> 08:59:36,856
the board. It has to go through

16838
08:59:36,856 --> 08:59:38,658
procurement. And the same thing

16839
08:59:38,658 --> 08:59:40,910
for your public private

16840
08:59:40,910 --> 08:59:41,760
partnership. So the policy is

16841
08:59:41,760 --> 08:59:43,396
there. It has some instructions

16842
08:59:43,396 --> 08:59:44,764
in there and there will be

16843
08:59:44,764 --> 08:59:45,865
additional processes that are

16844
08:59:45,865 --> 08:59:47,800
created. So I wanted to make

16845
08:59:47,800 --> 08:59:49,101
sure that is on the record so

16846
08:59:49,101 --> 08:59:51,101
everybody understands that.

16847
08:59:52,338 --> 08:59:54,738
>> Thank you, MISS Hixon.

16848
08:59:54,840 --> 08:59:57,343
>> Thank you. Just to address

16849
08:59:57,343 --> 08:59:59,743
board member Bowman's concern,

16850
08:59:59,912 --> 09:00:02,470
I believe if Broward Health

16851
09:00:02,470 --> 09:00:04,584
were to do a formal agreement

16852
09:00:04,584 --> 09:00:06,419
with Jafco, who represents

16853
09:00:06,419 --> 09:00:08,220
Eagles Haven, and maybe that

16854
09:00:08,220 --> 09:00:11,890
could be that agreement with

16855
09:00:11,890 --> 09:00:13,159
them or whatever they draft up

16856
09:00:13,159 --> 09:00:15,761
could be attached as maybe

16857
09:00:15,761 --> 09:00:18,230
backup to our item that comes.

16858
09:00:18,230 --> 09:00:21,434
We could all be very confident

16859
09:00:21,434 --> 09:00:24,737
that it's not a suggestion that

16860
09:00:24,737 --> 09:00:26,539
it's definitely a donation that

16861
09:00:26,539 --> 09:00:27,974
everyone is committed to. And

16862
09:00:27,974 --> 09:00:30,843
even though we're not part of

16863
09:00:30,843 --> 09:00:32,110
it, maybe it could just be the

16864
09:00:32,110 --> 09:00:33,679
background information given

16865
09:00:33,679 --> 09:00:36,282
with the item so that we are

16866
09:00:36,282 --> 09:00:37,617
very clear that that is moving

16867
09:00:37,617 --> 09:00:40,617
forward. There's no chance that

16868
09:00:41,253 --> 09:00:43,990
it's not going to happen.

16869
09:00:43,990 --> 09:00:44,624
>> Daughter Wanza oh, I thought

16870
09:00:44,624 --> 09:00:46,624
you wanted.

16871
09:00:46,726 --> 09:00:47,590
>> No, no no, I'm no ma'am.

16872
09:00:47,590 --> 09:00:48,294
>> Okay.

16873
09:00:48,294 --> 09:00:49,229
>> I think the General Council.

16874
09:00:49,229 --> 09:00:51,229
>> And I.

16875
09:00:51,430 --> 09:00:53,867
>> Think Broward Health is, is

16876
09:00:53,867 --> 09:00:54,634
willing to, to do that formal

16877
09:00:54,634 --> 09:00:56,634
agreement.

16878
09:00:56,636 --> 09:00:57,870
>> So we so we have to be

16879
09:00:57,870 --> 09:00:59,271
really careful with the

16880
09:00:59,271 --> 09:01:00,740
transaction. This is a sale of

16881
09:01:00,740 --> 09:01:03,276
land. So we don't want to

16882
09:01:03,276 --> 09:01:05,411
commingle the transactions. If

16883
09:01:05,411 --> 09:01:08,411
we do have a correspondence

16884
09:01:09,490 --> 09:01:10,883
from Jafco accepting what was

16885
09:01:10,883 --> 09:01:12,986
offered by Broward Health, we

16886
09:01:12,986 --> 09:01:14,621
can share that with the board.

16887
09:01:14,621 --> 09:01:16,289
And if there is a contract that

16888
09:01:16,289 --> 09:01:18,124
is drafted, it could be shared

16889
09:01:18,124 --> 09:01:20,360
with the board. But we, excuse

16890
09:01:20,360 --> 09:01:22,280
me, do not want to commingle

16891
09:01:22,280 --> 09:01:23,429
the transactions and have it

16892
09:01:23,429 --> 09:01:24,898
attached as an exhibit to the

16893
09:01:24,898 --> 09:01:26,266
agenda item.

16894
09:01:26,266 --> 09:01:27,400
>> Okay. Yeah. As long as

16895
09:01:27,400 --> 09:01:29,400
there's something that's

16896
09:01:29,568 --> 09:01:31,337
provided to the board where we

16897
09:01:31,337 --> 09:01:32,772
could see that it's it is a

16898
09:01:32,772 --> 09:01:34,207
formal agreement if you don't

16899
09:01:34,207 --> 09:01:35,642
think it's appropriate to

16900
09:01:35,642 --> 09:01:37,477
attach it, I get that, but

16901
09:01:37,477 --> 09:01:39,445
maybe just send it to us. So

16902
09:01:39,445 --> 09:01:41,114
we're very clear that again,

16903
09:01:41,114 --> 09:01:43,216
it's not a suggestion. It's

16904
09:01:43,216 --> 09:01:46,452
it's written in stone if it

16905
09:01:46,452 --> 09:01:47,553
moves forward.

16906
09:01:47,553 --> 09:01:49,553
>> Thank you.

16907
09:01:50,570 --> 09:01:53,570
>> DR. Holness thank you, MADAM

16908
09:01:53,660 --> 09:01:57,860
Chair. So I just wanted to give

16909
09:01:58,398 --> 09:02:01,268
my input on Margate. I support

16910
09:02:01,268 --> 09:02:03,268
the recommendation. Also

16911
09:02:03,470 --> 09:02:06,470
regarding Deerfield Beach. I am

16912
09:02:06,940 --> 09:02:08,750
glad MR. Iacobuzio clarified

16913
09:02:08,750 --> 09:02:09,676
that we're not getting any

16914
09:02:09,676 --> 09:02:12,450
money, so I think getting money

16915
09:02:12,450 --> 09:02:15,248
would be much better. So I am

16916
09:02:15,248 --> 09:02:19,448
for the sale of it. MADAM Chair,

16917
09:02:19,586 --> 09:02:21,722
I am not sure if you have

16918
09:02:21,722 --> 09:02:22,889
gotten consensus. I know you

16919
09:02:22,889 --> 09:02:25,326
felt like you didn't on the on

16920
09:02:25,326 --> 09:02:27,528
the Seagull option three, but

16921
09:02:27,528 --> 09:02:30,397
now getting clarity that option

16922
09:02:30,397 --> 09:02:33,397
three option one is actually

16923
09:02:34,334 --> 09:02:36,334
not overly financially

16924
09:02:36,904 --> 09:02:39,439
beneficial in terms of, you

16925
09:02:39,439 --> 09:02:42,209
know, producing revenues. I am

16926
09:02:42,209 --> 09:02:43,710
more for option three, you know,

16927
09:02:43,710 --> 09:02:45,846
Seagull is a prime property and

16928
09:02:45,846 --> 09:02:47,348
I don't have an issue with

16929
09:02:47,348 --> 09:02:49,784
safety training. But I believe

16930
09:02:49,784 --> 09:02:50,918
that as we continue to redefine

16931
09:02:50,918 --> 09:02:52,353
schools, we're going to have

16932
09:02:52,353 --> 09:02:54,154
other attractive sites that are

16933
09:02:54,154 --> 09:02:55,689
not necessarily prime

16934
09:02:55,689 --> 09:02:58,689
properties that we could have

16935
09:02:58,793 --> 09:03:01,793
the safety training, you know,

16936
09:03:02,630 --> 09:03:03,970
option exercise on those other

16937
09:03:03,970 --> 09:03:05,299
properties that are not

16938
09:03:05,299 --> 09:03:07,435
necessarily as expensive or as

16939
09:03:07,435 --> 09:03:10,371
prime as Seagull. So I would

16940
09:03:10,371 --> 09:03:11,739
much prefer option three for

16941
09:03:11,739 --> 09:03:13,240
Seagull. And MADAM Chair, I

16942
09:03:13,240 --> 09:03:14,842
think I would probably

16943
09:03:14,842 --> 09:03:16,944
encourage you to take consensus

16944
09:03:16,944 --> 09:03:19,313
on that again, because I was

16945
09:03:19,313 --> 09:03:22,913
glad to hear your input with

16946
09:03:22,950 --> 09:03:25,419
the noise factor as well with

16947
09:03:25,419 --> 09:03:27,819
having, you know, younger

16948
09:03:28,756 --> 09:03:30,891
children there. So it was well

16949
09:03:30,891 --> 09:03:32,459
taken. And I am more supportive

16950
09:03:32,459 --> 09:03:35,196
of option three. I'd just like

16951
09:03:35,196 --> 09:03:38,650
to make a comment as well on

16952
09:03:38,650 --> 09:03:40,601
the this trunk rising. I don't

16953
09:03:40,601 --> 09:03:42,300
believe the trunk rising

16954
09:03:42,300 --> 09:03:44,872
project should be delayed or

16955
09:03:44,872 --> 09:03:47,408
harmed by the by p three policy.

16956
09:03:47,408 --> 09:03:49,209
You know, that proposal was an

16957
09:03:49,209 --> 09:03:50,945
unsolicited proposal that was

16958
09:03:50,945 --> 09:03:52,447
then publicly disclosed to

16959
09:03:52,447 --> 09:03:54,214
invite other proposals. I

16960
09:03:54,214 --> 09:03:56,170
believe we received at least

16961
09:03:56,170 --> 09:03:57,518
four multiple proposals were

16962
09:03:57,518 --> 09:04:00,518
received and then filtered down

16963
09:04:00,722 --> 09:04:02,223
to two. This was discussed in

16964
09:04:02,223 --> 09:04:04,623
prior workshop. Before coming

16965
09:04:05,793 --> 09:04:08,629
to this workshop. You know, I

16966
09:04:08,629 --> 09:04:11,499
don't believe North Fork should

16967
09:04:11,499 --> 09:04:13,668
be delayed or forced to restart

16968
09:04:13,668 --> 09:04:15,970
as a result of a new p three

16969
09:04:15,970 --> 09:04:17,972
policy. So I'm hoping that we

16970
09:04:17,972 --> 09:04:19,390
can move ahead with it. My

16971
09:04:19,390 --> 09:04:22,900
understanding is that p three

16972
09:04:22,900 --> 09:04:23,445
process can be expensive, you

16973
09:04:23,445 --> 09:04:26,445
know, so there are many

16974
09:04:26,581 --> 09:04:28,116
concerns to that. So I don't

16975
09:04:28,116 --> 09:04:30,284
believe the North Fork should

16976
09:04:30,284 --> 09:04:32,754
be delayed as a result of p

16977
09:04:32,754 --> 09:04:34,122
three policy. Because we went

16978
09:04:34,122 --> 09:04:36,522
through the process. We

16979
09:04:37,910 --> 09:04:38,459
received multiple proposals and

16980
09:04:38,459 --> 09:04:40,195
we filtered down to two. And

16981
09:04:40,195 --> 09:04:42,397
we're down to Sistrunk rising.

16982
09:04:42,397 --> 09:04:44,399
So I hope that we can move

16983
09:04:44,399 --> 09:04:45,967
beyond that and and continue

16984
09:04:45,967 --> 09:04:48,367
the process with Sistrunk

16985
09:04:49,204 --> 09:04:52,474
rising. And Doctor Wanza, I am

16986
09:04:52,474 --> 09:04:55,409
okay with the the future

16987
09:04:55,409 --> 09:04:56,811
workshop topic and I think I

16988
09:04:56,811 --> 09:04:57,512
covered everything. Thank you,

16989
09:04:57,512 --> 09:04:58,579
MADAM Chair.

16990
09:04:58,579 --> 09:05:00,382
>> All right, so just real

16991
09:05:00,382 --> 09:05:03,982
quick, I want to retake the

16992
09:05:04,352 --> 09:05:07,352
consensus on Seagull. I heard

16993
09:05:07,622 --> 09:05:09,224
me, MISS Hixon DR. Holness and

16994
09:05:09,224 --> 09:05:11,293
MISS Bulman say that we wanted

16995
09:05:11,293 --> 09:05:12,960
to pursue option three. Is that

16996
09:05:12,960 --> 09:05:15,960
am I capturing that correctly?

16997
09:05:17,299 --> 09:05:19,801
And then I heard option 1 or 2

16998
09:05:19,801 --> 09:05:22,704
DR. Zeman and MR. Cervera.

16999
09:05:22,704 --> 09:05:24,172
Option one, MRS. Alhadeff and

17000
09:05:24,172 --> 09:05:25,240
option one and three

17001
09:05:25,240 --> 09:05:26,675
simultaneously, MISS Thompson,

17002
09:05:26,675 --> 09:05:30,275
but please correct me if I'm

17003
09:05:30,312 --> 09:05:32,180
wrong. Colleagues. Sorry. Oh,

17004
09:05:32,180 --> 09:05:34,615
okay. So sorry. So MISS Bulman

17005
09:05:34,615 --> 09:05:35,650
does not want to pursue option

17006
09:05:35,650 --> 09:05:38,587
three. You want to pursue

17007
09:05:38,587 --> 09:05:40,322
option one and three. Okay, so

17008
09:05:40,322 --> 09:05:42,157
that gives us three board

17009
09:05:42,157 --> 09:05:45,157
members in support of just

17010
09:05:47,229 --> 09:05:48,964
option three to MR. Cervera.

17011
09:05:48,964 --> 09:05:51,166
>> Since we've been at this for

17012
09:05:51,166 --> 09:05:52,568
what seems like ten hours now,

17013
09:05:52,568 --> 09:05:52,968
can you please repeat option

17014
09:05:52,968 --> 09:05:54,968
three?

17015
09:05:56,605 --> 09:05:59,410
>> So option three is to look

17016
09:05:59,410 --> 09:06:00,843
at either selling or leasing

17017
09:06:00,843 --> 09:06:02,277
the land. I have to go back to

17018
09:06:02,277 --> 09:06:04,479
the exact slide. Doctor Wanza.

17019
09:06:04,479 --> 09:06:05,848
>> Yes you're right. So so

17020
09:06:05,848 --> 09:06:07,649
option three after formal

17021
09:06:07,649 --> 09:06:09,649
policy and procedure

17022
09:06:10,553 --> 09:06:12,210
development, receive formal

17023
09:06:12,210 --> 09:06:14,156
proposals to either enter into

17024
09:06:14,156 --> 09:06:15,991
a p3 opportunity with

17025
09:06:15,991 --> 09:06:17,393
interested vendors or into a

17026
09:06:17,393 --> 09:06:19,528
facility or land lease

17027
09:06:19,528 --> 09:06:21,528
agreement with interested

17028
09:06:24,633 --> 09:06:26,633
parties.

17029
09:06:27,869 --> 09:06:29,405
>> Okay. Thank you.

17030
09:06:29,405 --> 09:06:31,107
>> Okay. So again, option one

17031
09:06:31,107 --> 09:06:32,875
and three simultaneously, MISS

17032
09:06:32,875 --> 09:06:35,275
Thompson, MISS Bulman, option

17033
09:06:35,744 --> 09:06:38,470
three only, MISS Leonardi, MISS

17034
09:06:38,470 --> 09:06:40,116
Hixon DR. Holness. Option 1 or

17035
09:06:40,116 --> 09:06:41,917
2. DR. Zeman or MR. Cervera and

17036
09:06:41,917 --> 09:06:43,352
option one. MRS. Alhadeff, am I

17037
09:06:43,352 --> 09:06:44,419
capturing that correctly?

17038
09:06:44,419 --> 09:06:45,721
>> I think so.

17039
09:06:45,721 --> 09:06:45,955
>> Do you have your direction,

17040
09:06:45,955 --> 09:06:47,955
doctor?

17041
09:06:51,661 --> 09:06:52,795
>> Wanza I think so, okay.

17042
09:06:52,795 --> 09:06:54,830
>> I heard a majority of the

17043
09:06:54,830 --> 09:06:57,330
board in favor of the Margate

17044
09:06:57,330 --> 09:07:00,330
replacement. A majority of the

17045
09:07:01,270 --> 09:07:04,870
board in favor of the Deerfield

17046
09:07:05,274 --> 09:07:06,420
easement. Is that correct?

17047
09:07:06,420 --> 09:07:08,420
Anything else?

17048
09:07:08,177 --> 09:07:09,946
>> Just on the Margate issue, I

17049
09:07:09,946 --> 09:07:11,748
think there was a discussion

17050
09:07:11,748 --> 09:07:13,583
about. It's a pause and getting

17051
09:07:13,583 --> 09:07:15,500
the the cost estimate before we

17052
09:07:15,500 --> 09:07:16,852
decide on the replacement, if

17053
09:07:16,852 --> 09:07:17,119
that. Yeah, a little bit more

17054
09:07:17,119 --> 09:07:18,654
accurate.

17055
09:07:18,654 --> 09:07:19,355
>> Sorry. Margate. Pause.

17056
09:07:19,355 --> 09:07:21,355
>> Thank you chair.

17057
09:07:21,457 --> 09:07:22,959
>> Anything else doctor Wanza

17058
09:07:22,959 --> 09:07:24,661
MISS Bulman.

17059
09:07:24,661 --> 09:07:25,428
>> The Deerfield. I think we're

17060
09:07:25,428 --> 09:07:26,562
going to.

17061
09:07:26,562 --> 09:07:27,896
>> Come back with more

17062
09:07:27,896 --> 09:07:30,466
information first so that you

17063
09:07:30,466 --> 09:07:33,869
all can see come back and lay

17064
09:07:33,869 --> 09:07:35,904
out Deerfield together. What

17065
09:07:35,904 --> 09:07:37,600
the easement. What the what an

17066
09:07:37,600 --> 09:07:38,740
appraisal for. Yes. We're going

17067
09:07:38,740 --> 09:07:38,875
to come back, Deerfield, for a

17068
09:07:38,875 --> 09:07:40,875
follow up.

17069
09:07:41,610 --> 09:07:42,411
>> Okay. Anything else? All

17070
09:07:42,411 --> 09:07:44,247
right.

17071
09:07:44,247 --> 09:07:45,248
>> MADAM Chair, can you.

17072
09:07:45,248 --> 09:07:47,248
Clarify what.

17073
09:07:48,184 --> 09:07:51,184
>> The decision was for Siegel?

17074
09:07:54,958 --> 09:07:56,958
>> Doctor Wanza.

17075
09:08:00,730 --> 09:08:02,565
>> Siegel. The way I interpret

17076
09:08:02,565 --> 09:08:04,400
what the board is saying is to

17077
09:08:04,400 --> 09:08:07,270
really probably come back with

17078
09:08:07,270 --> 09:08:09,390
what option one and three look

17079
09:08:09,390 --> 09:08:10,840
like, so that the board can

17080
09:08:10,840 --> 09:08:12,275
probably have a little deeper

17081
09:08:12,275 --> 09:08:13,776
conversation, bring back what

17082
09:08:13,776 --> 09:08:15,512
option one and option three

17083
09:08:15,512 --> 09:08:16,679
would look like, and we would

17084
09:08:16,679 --> 09:08:20,279
bring that back. And, you know,

17085
09:08:20,617 --> 09:08:22,419
in a relatively as

17086
09:08:22,419 --> 09:08:23,853
expeditiously as we can. And at

17087
09:08:23,853 --> 09:08:25,989
that same time, we will bring

17088
09:08:25,989 --> 09:08:27,123
back the Deerfield Beach

17089
09:08:27,123 --> 09:08:28,624
Elementary School options two

17090
09:08:28,624 --> 09:08:32,496
so that it is a true follow up

17091
09:08:32,496 --> 09:08:34,231
to this conversation. Does that

17092
09:08:34,231 --> 09:08:35,699
conform with what you have?

17093
09:08:35,699 --> 09:08:36,899
>> Yeah. I mean, I'm not really

17094
09:08:36,899 --> 09:08:38,635
sure how we make sense of the

17095
09:08:38,635 --> 09:08:38,934
the split, but yeah, I'm not

17096
09:08:38,934 --> 09:08:40,637
opposed to.

17097
09:08:40,637 --> 09:08:41,838
>> What I would just bring back

17098
09:08:41,838 --> 09:08:42,839
both. And then the board, you

17099
09:08:42,839 --> 09:08:44,641
know, hopefully we won't be at

17100
09:08:44,641 --> 09:08:45,775
this hour and the board can

17101
09:08:45,775 --> 09:08:46,676
really sit down and have a

17102
09:08:46,676 --> 09:08:47,878
meaningful conversation.

17103
09:08:47,878 --> 09:08:49,460
>> But for for the Siegel piece,

17104
09:08:49,460 --> 09:08:50,647
I do need the information for

17105
09:08:50,647 --> 09:08:51,615
option one, like how much

17106
09:08:51,615 --> 09:08:53,717
capital investment we would

17107
09:08:53,717 --> 09:08:55,852
have to make. We would have to

17108
09:08:55,852 --> 09:08:56,653
invest how much money we could

17109
09:08:56,653 --> 09:08:59,530
potentially, how much revenue

17110
09:08:59,122 --> 09:09:01,225
we could potentially generate.

17111
09:09:01,225 --> 09:09:03,727
And the the safety piece, you

17112
09:09:03,727 --> 09:09:05,996
know, that there would be no

17113
09:09:05,996 --> 09:09:08,996
intermingling of the babies and

17114
09:09:09,990 --> 09:09:09,399
the active shooter trainings.

17115
09:09:09,399 --> 09:09:11,301
>> Perfect.

17116
09:09:11,301 --> 09:09:13,700
>> All right. Anyone else,

17117
09:09:13,700 --> 09:09:14,905
anyone online want to add

17118
09:09:14,905 --> 09:09:16,905
anything?

17119
09:09:17,440 --> 09:09:19,676
>> Well, and the value that the

17120
09:09:19,676 --> 09:09:22,145
training brings to the SROs and

17121
09:09:22,145 --> 09:09:23,247
the Guardians.

17122
09:09:23,247 --> 09:09:25,490
>> Did you capture that?

17123
09:09:25,490 --> 09:09:27,490
>> Yes, ma'am.

17124
09:09:27,484 --> 09:09:29,719
>> All right. Anything else?

17125
09:09:29,719 --> 09:09:31,622
All right. Our next item on the

17126
09:09:31,622 --> 09:09:32,656
agenda is voluntary

17127
09:09:32,656 --> 09:09:33,957
prekindergarten pre

17128
09:09:33,957 --> 09:09:35,859
kindergarten orientation.

17129
09:09:35,859 --> 09:09:39,630
>> Chair. I just I have to go

17130
09:09:39,630 --> 09:09:40,430
in ten minutes. Are we we're

17131
09:09:40,430 --> 09:09:44,401
are we do we have some intent

17132
09:09:44,401 --> 09:09:46,136
of trying to to do vpk ahead of

17133
09:09:46,136 --> 09:09:47,137
the Capitol or what are we

17134
09:09:47,137 --> 09:09:48,372
going to try and accomplish

17135
09:09:48,372 --> 09:09:50,240
here for the rest of the day?

17136
09:09:50,240 --> 09:09:51,308
>> MR. Sullivan what do we have

17137
09:09:51,308 --> 09:09:52,443
to complete today?

17138
09:09:52,443 --> 09:09:55,211
>> So I believe we need to do

17139
09:09:55,211 --> 09:09:58,811
the vpk item because they need

17140
09:09:58,949 --> 09:10:01,510
that board feedback before JULY

17141
09:10:01,510 --> 09:10:03,520
1st, and then the meal prices.

17142
09:10:03,520 --> 09:10:06,824
So the board can vote on it on.

17143
09:10:06,824 --> 09:10:09,226
Next week on the 23rd. In terms

17144
09:10:09,226 --> 09:10:11,395
of the capital budget, I don't

17145
09:10:11,395 --> 09:10:12,997
believe it needs to go today.

17146
09:10:12,997 --> 09:10:15,166
And what we could do if the

17147
09:10:15,166 --> 09:10:17,168
board likes, although there is

17148
09:10:17,168 --> 09:10:18,969
a lot of items on the special,

17149
09:10:18,969 --> 09:10:20,438
I don't believe they will take

17150
09:10:20,438 --> 09:10:21,906
the entirety of the day. We

17151
09:10:21,906 --> 09:10:23,207
could add that to the special

17152
09:10:23,207 --> 09:10:24,374
as a presentation.

17153
09:10:24,374 --> 09:10:25,476
>> I love it.

17154
09:10:25,476 --> 09:10:27,244
>> Second, yeah.

17155
09:10:27,244 --> 09:10:29,179
>> Is there any objection to

17156
09:10:29,179 --> 09:10:31,582
adding a workshop to next week,

17157
09:10:31,582 --> 09:10:33,840
MISS Bulman?

17158
09:10:33,840 --> 09:10:35,186
>> No. If we can get out of

17159
09:10:35,186 --> 09:10:36,320
here soon.

17160
09:10:36,320 --> 09:10:37,789
>> Anyone online want to add

17161
09:10:37,789 --> 09:10:38,889
their input?

17162
09:10:38,889 --> 09:10:40,591
>> But don't. Don't we have to

17163
09:10:40,591 --> 09:10:43,127
do. We're doing power up, right?

17164
09:10:43,127 --> 09:10:44,529
>> That's fine.

17165
09:10:44,529 --> 09:10:45,263
>> Yes, MADAM Chair.

17166
09:10:45,263 --> 09:10:46,864
>> Yep.

17167
09:10:46,864 --> 09:10:48,566
>> I'm fine with.

17168
09:10:48,566 --> 09:10:49,199
>> I'm sorry.

17169
09:10:49,199 --> 09:10:50,301
>> Thank you.

17170
09:10:50,301 --> 09:10:51,350
>> Fine.

17171
09:10:51,350 --> 09:10:53,350
>> MADAM Chair.

17172
09:10:53,571 --> 09:10:55,571
>> Yes. DR. Holness.

17173
09:10:56,874 --> 09:10:58,976
>> Yes. So, can John also look

17174
09:10:58,976 --> 09:11:01,846
at the items we have on the

17175
09:11:01,846 --> 09:11:04,140
23rd to determine if any of

17176
09:11:04,140 --> 09:11:05,783
those items could possibly be

17177
09:11:05,783 --> 09:11:07,618
delayed, just in case the

17178
09:11:07,618 --> 09:11:10,618
workshop and the current items

17179
09:11:10,822 --> 09:11:11,589
will put us beyond eight hours.

17180
09:11:11,589 --> 09:11:13,240
>> So?

17181
09:11:13,240 --> 09:11:15,260
>> So the majority, if not all

17182
09:11:15,260 --> 09:11:16,928
the items on the 23rd have to

17183
09:11:16,928 --> 09:11:18,763
go because they're items that

17184
09:11:18,763 --> 09:11:21,332
expire at the end of this

17185
09:11:21,332 --> 09:11:23,000
fiscal year. But again, most of

17186
09:11:23,000 --> 09:11:24,502
them are a small amounts, and I

17187
09:11:24,502 --> 09:11:27,371
don't anticipate a lot of those

17188
09:11:27,371 --> 09:11:29,908
items having a great deal of

17189
09:11:29,908 --> 09:11:31,420
discussion. So I believe,

17190
09:11:31,420 --> 09:11:32,770
although I might live to regret

17191
09:11:32,770 --> 09:11:34,212
this, that they should be

17192
09:11:34,212 --> 09:11:36,130
enough time to do the budget

17193
09:11:36,130 --> 09:11:37,782
presentation, a capital at the

17194
09:11:37,782 --> 09:11:39,782
end.

17195
09:11:39,951 --> 09:11:41,419
>> Okay. MADAM Chair, can John

17196
09:11:41,419 --> 09:11:42,853
comment on whether or not the

17197
09:11:42,853 --> 09:11:45,389
median should start earlier to

17198
09:11:45,389 --> 09:11:46,524
exhaust all the items?

17199
09:11:46,524 --> 09:11:47,692
>> MR. Sullivan?

17200
09:11:47,692 --> 09:11:49,294
>> That's the will of the board.

17201
09:11:49,294 --> 09:11:52,294
i believe the special is

17202
09:11:54,650 --> 09:11:56,701
scheduled for 9 A.M. 845. We

17203
09:11:56,701 --> 09:11:58,637
could do it at 8 A.M. If that's

17204
09:11:58,637 --> 09:11:58,803
up to the board, or we can keep

17205
09:11:58,803 --> 09:12:00,205
it.

17206
09:12:00,205 --> 09:12:01,939
>> 845 everyone in the room who

17207
09:12:01,939 --> 09:12:04,209
is a minority shaking their

17208
09:12:04,209 --> 09:12:07,209
heads. But anyone online want

17209
09:12:07,679 --> 09:12:09,547
to suggest or want to?

17210
09:12:09,547 --> 09:12:10,181
>> I would like it. Not at 8

17211
09:12:10,181 --> 09:12:12,181
A.M.

17212
09:12:12,350 --> 09:12:14,350
>> Yeah. Me either.

17213
09:12:14,553 --> 09:12:16,553
>> Yeah, I think 830.

17214
09:12:17,823 --> 09:12:19,823
>> It's 845.

17215
09:12:21,759 --> 09:12:24,963
>> So we could either do eight

17216
09:12:24,963 --> 09:12:27,498
845 or 8 A.M. 845 all right. We

17217
09:12:27,498 --> 09:12:28,934
will keep the meeting at 845.

17218
09:12:28,934 --> 09:12:30,934
>> Yeah.

17219
09:12:31,837 --> 09:12:33,271
>> vpk here we go.

17220
09:12:33,271 --> 09:12:34,338
>> All right. Would we like the

17221
09:12:34,338 --> 09:12:36,108
presentation or go straight to

17222
09:12:36,108 --> 09:12:37,243
board discussion.

17223
09:12:37,243 --> 09:12:38,277
>> I've read the whole

17224
09:12:38,277 --> 09:12:38,677
presentation. I'm ready to talk,

17225
09:12:38,677 --> 09:12:39,878
chair.

17226
09:12:39,878 --> 09:12:41,130
>> All right. Go ahead.

17227
09:12:41,130 --> 09:12:42,680
>> Chair, if you don't mind, I

17228
09:12:42,680 --> 09:12:43,715
believe that Doctor Cohen does

17229
09:12:43,715 --> 09:12:45,550
have to just share something

17230
09:12:45,550 --> 09:12:46,485
very briefly so they can make

17231
09:12:46,485 --> 09:12:49,455
sure we're in compliance, and

17232
09:12:49,455 --> 09:12:53,550
then we'll be ready to take

17233
09:12:54,159 --> 09:12:55,594
questions if that's okay.

17234
09:12:55,594 --> 09:12:58,163
>> We we're going to jump right

17235
09:12:58,163 --> 09:12:59,864
to the end of the deck. And if

17236
09:12:59,864 --> 09:13:01,767
the board wishes, we can come

17237
09:13:01,767 --> 09:13:04,637
back and present the entire

17238
09:13:04,637 --> 09:13:05,905
deck. I know that it was made a

17239
09:13:05,905 --> 09:13:06,872
public, so everyone had an

17240
09:13:06,872 --> 09:13:07,839
opportunity. But there's one

17241
09:13:07,839 --> 09:13:09,308
essential question we do need

17242
09:13:09,308 --> 09:13:10,709
to get answered. So we could go

17243
09:13:10,709 --> 09:13:12,545
right to that question and get

17244
09:13:12,545 --> 09:13:15,470
that answered. We can schedule

17245
09:13:15,470 --> 09:13:16,782
this for another meeting. I'm

17246
09:13:16,782 --> 09:13:19,718
going to introduce my team.

17247
09:13:19,718 --> 09:13:22,118
Sharonda Bailey, director of

17248
09:13:23,989 --> 09:13:25,424
vpk, Head Start, and Paul.

17249
09:13:25,424 --> 09:13:26,959
>> Thank you, Doctor Cohen.

17250
09:13:26,959 --> 09:13:28,360
Good evening board. Thank you

17251
09:13:28,360 --> 09:13:30,529
for giving us the opportunity

17252
09:13:30,529 --> 09:13:32,264
to address the. One important

17253
09:13:32,264 --> 09:13:34,660
question we need answered today.

17254
09:13:34,660 --> 09:13:35,568
Our Head Start preschool

17255
09:13:35,568 --> 09:13:37,403
program has been experiencing

17256
09:13:37,403 --> 09:13:40,907
under enrollment, as we have in

17257
09:13:40,907 --> 09:13:42,708
our k through 12 enrollment

17258
09:13:42,708 --> 09:13:43,842
trends. And what we are

17259
09:13:43,842 --> 09:13:45,678
proposing with the Office of

17260
09:13:45,678 --> 09:13:48,480
Head Start is to be able to

17261
09:13:48,480 --> 09:13:49,916
submit an application for us to

17262
09:13:49,916 --> 09:13:52,840
convert our Head Start

17263
09:13:52,840 --> 09:13:54,586
preschool slots to early Head

17264
09:13:54,586 --> 09:13:57,557
Start slots. So we are right

17265
09:13:57,557 --> 09:13:58,658
now facing reducing those slots,

17266
09:13:58,658 --> 09:14:00,580
as I've mentioned on the Head

17267
09:14:00,580 --> 09:14:01,893
Start preschool side for our

17268
09:14:01,893 --> 09:14:03,695
four year old program so that

17269
09:14:03,695 --> 09:14:05,398
we can open the opportunity for

17270
09:14:05,398 --> 09:14:06,499
our students or our children

17271
09:14:06,499 --> 09:14:08,701
and the infants and toddlers

17272
09:14:08,701 --> 09:14:10,803
side of the house, therefore,

17273
09:14:10,803 --> 09:14:12,638
allowing allowing us to meet

17274
09:14:12,638 --> 09:14:14,107
enrollment requirements for our

17275
09:14:14,107 --> 09:14:15,908
Head Start preschool side of

17276
09:14:15,908 --> 09:14:17,677
the house and also meet

17277
09:14:17,677 --> 09:14:19,780
enrollment for our Head Start

17278
09:14:19,780 --> 09:14:20,178
infants and toddlers. So I

17279
09:14:20,178 --> 09:14:21,347
wanted to have that

17280
09:14:21,347 --> 09:14:23,150
conversation with the board to

17281
09:14:23,150 --> 09:14:24,884
see if they are willing to

17282
09:14:24,884 --> 09:14:29,840
allow us to move forward w whh

17283
09:14:29,855 --> 09:14:31,658
that applicacati..Hank youou.

17284
09:14:31,658 --> 09:14:33,658
>> MISS Bulman.

17285
09:14:34,994 --> 09:14:37,864
>> So we're your proposal is

17286
09:14:37,864 --> 09:14:39,320
that for the empty Head Start

17287
09:14:39,320 --> 09:14:40,232
slots, we would change them to

17288
09:14:40,232 --> 09:14:41,934
earlier. Are we changing all of

17289
09:14:41,934 --> 09:14:42,235
the head start spots to early

17290
09:14:42,235 --> 09:14:43,936
Head Start?

17291
09:14:43,936 --> 09:14:45,710
>> So right now for the Head

17292
09:14:45,710 --> 09:14:46,172
Start preschool side of our

17293
09:14:46,172 --> 09:14:49,800
house, there are three and four

17294
09:14:49,800 --> 09:14:51,878
year olds and we have 2003

17295
09:14:51,878 --> 09:14:53,346
seats. We're required to be at

17296
09:14:53,346 --> 09:14:55,746
97% for full enrollment, and

17297
09:14:56,249 --> 09:14:58,351
we've been hovering at 92% all

17298
09:14:58,351 --> 09:15:00,887
year. So we are proposing to

17299
09:15:00,887 --> 09:15:03,423
reduce on our 3 to 4 year old

17300
09:15:03,423 --> 09:15:05,258
side, 77 seats on that side of

17301
09:15:05,258 --> 09:15:06,993
the House to bring us closer to

17302
09:15:06,993 --> 09:15:08,495
being compliant for full

17303
09:15:08,495 --> 09:15:10,630
enrollment, but also allowing

17304
09:15:10,630 --> 09:15:13,166
us to convert those seats to

17305
09:15:13,166 --> 09:15:16,166
open up 32 additional slots for

17306
09:15:16,702 --> 09:15:18,171
our early Head Start program.

17307
09:15:18,171 --> 09:15:18,971
>> All right, that sounds great.

17308
09:15:18,971 --> 09:15:20,307
>> Thanks. Thank you.

17309
09:15:20,307 --> 09:15:22,307
>> You're welcome.

17310
09:15:22,476 --> 09:15:24,876
>> Anyone else? DR. Zeman

17311
09:15:24,978 --> 09:15:27,800
already gave his feedback.

17312
09:15:27,800 --> 09:15:28,982
Anyone else? All right. We are

17313
09:15:28,982 --> 09:15:31,118
good to move forward. Are you

17314
09:15:31,118 --> 09:15:34,420
you have the direction you need.

17315
09:15:34,420 --> 09:15:36,189
Oh, go ahead, MRS. Alhadeff.

17316
09:15:36,189 --> 09:15:37,624
>> No. MRS. Rebecca. Oh, MISS

17317
09:15:37,624 --> 09:15:40,527
Thompson, I would really like

17318
09:15:40,527 --> 09:15:42,329
this presentation to come back

17319
09:15:42,329 --> 09:15:44,798
at some point, because I think

17320
09:15:44,798 --> 09:15:46,967
there is a much bigger

17321
09:15:46,967 --> 09:15:49,967
conversation on how we approach

17322
09:15:50,203 --> 09:15:53,803
vpk in our our early learners.

17323
09:15:54,508 --> 09:15:55,976
So it's a little frustrating

17324
09:15:55,976 --> 09:15:58,478
that the agenda has happened,

17325
09:15:58,478 --> 09:15:59,679
how it has. I'm fine with this

17326
09:15:59,679 --> 09:16:01,414
suggestion, but just I think

17327
09:16:01,414 --> 09:16:03,584
it's really important that we

17328
09:16:03,584 --> 09:16:04,718
spend time and invest in this

17329
09:16:04,718 --> 09:16:08,355
program, and I would like it to

17330
09:16:08,355 --> 09:16:08,956
be put on agenda in the future.

17331
09:16:08,956 --> 09:16:10,956
Thank you.

17332
09:16:11,792 --> 09:16:14,328
>> We're happy to do that.

17333
09:16:14,328 --> 09:16:16,728
>> Anyone else, anyone else

17334
09:16:19,733 --> 09:16:21,902
online? All right. Thank you.

17335
09:16:21,902 --> 09:16:25,139
Our next item on the agenda is

17336
09:16:25,139 --> 09:16:27,975
the Food and Nutrition services

17337
09:16:27,975 --> 09:16:29,975
Meal Benefits update.

17338
09:16:30,978 --> 09:16:33,790
>> They'll be in about 30s. And

17339
09:16:33,790 --> 09:16:34,481
I'll ask Doctor Wanza perhaps

17340
09:16:34,481 --> 09:16:35,949
to go straight to the

17341
09:16:35,949 --> 09:16:37,949
superintendent's recommendation,

17342
09:16:38,418 --> 09:16:39,854
unless the board wants to. An

17343
09:16:39,854 --> 09:16:41,322
elevator speech at the

17344
09:16:41,322 --> 09:16:43,322
presentation.

17345
09:16:45,593 --> 09:16:46,359
>> Nope. I'm ready to talk.

17346
09:16:46,359 --> 09:16:48,359
>> Chair.

17347
09:16:48,895 --> 09:16:50,397
>> Yes, MISS Thompson.

17348
09:16:50,397 --> 09:16:53,234
>> I think it is important to

17349
09:16:53,234 --> 09:16:55,402
at least expand on the impact

17350
09:16:55,402 --> 09:16:56,470
that cep will have on other

17351
09:16:56,470 --> 09:16:58,720
funding, like title one, and

17352
09:16:58,720 --> 09:17:01,475
just make sure that the board

17353
09:17:01,475 --> 09:17:02,576
is particularly clear on on the

17354
09:17:02,576 --> 09:17:04,110
consequences of each option

17355
09:17:04,110 --> 09:17:05,379
they're proposing. But

17356
09:17:05,379 --> 09:17:08,214
otherwise I'm fine with an

17357
09:17:08,214 --> 09:17:10,214
abbreviated presentation.

17358
09:17:11,217 --> 09:17:12,386
>> I agree.

17359
09:17:12,386 --> 09:17:13,654
>> So Doctor Wanza, if you can

17360
09:17:13,654 --> 09:17:15,890
just highlight the

17361
09:17:15,890 --> 09:17:17,890
superintendent's recommendation

17362
09:17:17,358 --> 09:17:19,126
and the importance of the

17363
09:17:19,126 --> 09:17:20,928
funding impacts on other

17364
09:17:20,928 --> 09:17:22,928
revenue sources.

17365
09:17:23,831 --> 09:17:25,266
>> So I will go to so this is

17366
09:17:25,266 --> 09:17:26,367
the team from Food and

17367
09:17:26,367 --> 09:17:28,469
Nutrition Services as you can

17368
09:17:28,469 --> 09:17:29,936
see. Yay.

17369
09:17:29,936 --> 09:17:32,390
>> Thank you for waiting.

17370
09:17:32,390 --> 09:17:34,410
>> Yes. Yeah. You get power up.

17371
09:17:34,410 --> 09:17:35,743
And I'm not certain if they're

17372
09:17:35,743 --> 09:17:36,744
still on the line, but our

17373
09:17:36,744 --> 09:17:38,479
partners from the Council of

17374
09:17:38,479 --> 09:17:39,981
Great City Schools were on the

17375
09:17:39,981 --> 09:17:41,482
line at some point throughout

17376
09:17:41,482 --> 09:17:42,483
the day. They're still.

17377
09:17:42,483 --> 09:17:43,150
>> We're still on the line.

17378
09:17:43,150 --> 09:17:43,384
[Laughter]

17379
09:17:43,384 --> 09:17:44,719
This is.

17380
09:17:44,719 --> 09:17:46,854
>> Why that membership is

17381
09:17:46,854 --> 09:17:47,154
important. They're still here.

17382
09:17:47,154 --> 09:17:49,230
DR. Zeman.

17383
09:17:49,230 --> 09:17:50,257
>> Nice to see you, Ray.

17384
09:17:50,257 --> 09:17:50,892
>> Pleasure to see you all as

17385
09:17:50,892 --> 09:17:52,126
well.

17386
09:17:52,126 --> 09:17:54,280
>> Thank you for being here

17387
09:17:54,280 --> 09:17:57,665
with us. So I'm going to go to

17388
09:17:57,665 --> 09:18:00,650
page 22 of the presentation.

17389
09:18:00,134 --> 09:18:02,134
The superintendents

17390
09:18:02,670 --> 09:18:04,172
recommendations. So the

17391
09:18:04,172 --> 09:18:06,172
superintendents recommendations

17392
09:18:06,274 --> 09:18:08,760
actually asked the board to

17393
09:18:08,760 --> 09:18:11,760
consider four things. The first

17394
09:18:11,780 --> 09:18:14,181
one is to implement some

17395
09:18:14,181 --> 09:18:16,160
version of cep, which is the

17396
09:18:16,160 --> 09:18:18,160
community eligibility provision,

17397
09:18:18,887 --> 09:18:20,889
which will allow for whatever

17398
09:18:20,889 --> 09:18:22,189
number of schools the children

17399
09:18:22,189 --> 09:18:23,758
in the schools. As we know, all

17400
09:18:23,758 --> 09:18:25,126
kids will have free breakfast,

17401
09:18:25,126 --> 09:18:26,461
but all of those kids will have

17402
09:18:26,461 --> 09:18:28,529
free lunch as well. And then

17403
09:18:28,529 --> 09:18:31,899
for the schools that are not

17404
09:18:31,899 --> 09:18:35,499
included, I'm on page 22. Or is

17405
09:18:37,572 --> 09:18:41,772
that right? Can you go to the

17406
09:18:41,943 --> 09:18:44,343
revised presentation? Okay. And

17407
09:18:45,146 --> 09:18:47,682
then for whatever number of

17408
09:18:47,682 --> 09:18:49,484
schools that do not qualify for

17409
09:18:49,484 --> 09:18:50,919
the community eligibility

17410
09:18:50,919 --> 09:18:52,387
provision for all of the

17411
09:18:52,387 --> 09:18:54,823
children to have free lunch,

17412
09:18:54,823 --> 09:18:56,291
those those schools, we will

17413
09:18:56,291 --> 09:18:58,126
still go through the

17414
09:18:58,126 --> 09:18:59,961
traditional meal application

17415
09:18:59,961 --> 09:19:02,164
process to qualify as many

17416
09:19:02,164 --> 09:19:03,965
children as possible for free,

17417
09:19:03,965 --> 09:19:05,333
as many students as possible

17418
09:19:05,333 --> 09:19:06,802
for reduced. And then the

17419
09:19:06,802 --> 09:19:08,604
remaining would be full pay.

17420
09:19:08,604 --> 09:19:10,372
And we can talk about how the

17421
09:19:10,372 --> 09:19:12,173
groupings and the configuration

17422
09:19:12,173 --> 09:19:15,410
at what percentage we do for

17423
09:19:15,410 --> 09:19:17,178
that. The second recommendation

17424
09:19:17,178 --> 09:19:19,348
is we are at a place where we

17425
09:19:19,348 --> 09:19:21,216
do need to increase meal prices,

17426
09:19:21,216 --> 09:19:23,180
and the recommendation is to

17427
09:19:23,180 --> 09:19:25,418
increase lunch at elementary,

17428
09:19:25,520 --> 09:19:28,520
middle, high and adult by $1.

17429
09:19:30,492 --> 09:19:32,327
And then the we really want to

17430
09:19:32,327 --> 09:19:34,530
encourage the board to for us

17431
09:19:34,530 --> 09:19:36,364
to return to our historical

17432
09:19:36,364 --> 09:19:37,699
meal charge processes. And we

17433
09:19:37,699 --> 09:19:39,868
can talk about that a little

17434
09:19:39,868 --> 09:19:41,670
bit. I've also been in

17435
09:19:41,670 --> 09:19:43,710
conversation with our

17436
09:19:43,710 --> 09:19:45,641
colleagues in it to look at

17437
09:19:45,641 --> 09:19:47,760
some kind of way, how we can

17438
09:19:47,760 --> 09:19:48,944
integrate the meal balance with

17439
09:19:48,944 --> 09:19:51,460
something in focus so that kids

17440
09:19:51,460 --> 09:19:52,448
can see before they get to the

17441
09:19:52,448 --> 09:19:53,616
cafeteria, that whole

17442
09:19:53,616 --> 09:19:55,160
conversation about, you know,

17443
09:19:55,160 --> 09:19:56,785
do I have money before I

17444
09:19:56,785 --> 09:19:58,220
actually get in the line? And

17445
09:19:58,220 --> 09:20:00,723
then more than anything, and we

17446
09:20:00,723 --> 09:20:01,856
hear this more and more is

17447
09:20:01,856 --> 09:20:03,492
whatever the decision that

17448
09:20:03,492 --> 09:20:05,427
comes out of whatever direction

17449
09:20:05,427 --> 09:20:07,262
comes out of today. And then

17450
09:20:07,262 --> 09:20:09,732
ultimately board item next week

17451
09:20:09,732 --> 09:20:11,934
that we must immediately

17452
09:20:11,934 --> 09:20:13,368
implement a robust

17453
09:20:13,368 --> 09:20:15,368
communication protocol across

17454
09:20:15,538 --> 09:20:17,506
the community that involves the

17455
09:20:17,506 --> 09:20:19,175
schools, that involves everyone,

17456
09:20:19,175 --> 09:20:20,809
so that parents and families

17457
09:20:20,809 --> 09:20:23,846
know the options that we are

17458
09:20:23,846 --> 09:20:25,581
moving forward with. That's the

17459
09:20:25,581 --> 09:20:27,981
long and the short.

17460
09:20:29,551 --> 09:20:31,951
>> Thank you, MISS Dixon.

17461
09:20:33,889 --> 09:20:35,758
>> Thank you so much. I have to

17462
09:20:35,758 --> 09:20:38,260
MISS Thompson's point. It was

17463
09:20:38,260 --> 09:20:39,762
brought up to us that the

17464
09:20:39,762 --> 09:20:43,362
schools, let's say I. I forget

17465
09:20:43,733 --> 09:20:45,340
what option three was in terms

17466
09:20:45,340 --> 09:20:46,769
of numbers of schools, but

17467
09:20:46,769 --> 09:20:49,769
let's say it's 80 schools. It

17468
09:20:50,405 --> 09:20:52,941
might have been 96, but it.

17469
09:20:52,941 --> 09:20:55,811
Those 80 schools that are part

17470
09:20:55,811 --> 09:20:58,140
of the cpe, how does that

17471
09:20:58,140 --> 09:20:59,782
affect their title one funding?

17472
09:20:59,782 --> 09:21:02,752
Because we would be helping

17473
09:21:02,752 --> 09:21:04,319
ourselves to do cpe with them,

17474
09:21:04,319 --> 09:21:06,210
but then we would be hurting

17475
09:21:06,210 --> 09:21:08,570
the schools. So I think it's

17476
09:21:08,570 --> 09:21:10,457
really important that we

17477
09:21:12,428 --> 09:21:13,830
understand what that effect is.

17478
09:21:13,830 --> 09:21:15,365
>> And yes. Good afternoon.

17479
09:21:15,365 --> 09:21:17,660
Thank you so much, MR. Sullivan.

17480
09:21:17,660 --> 09:21:18,167
Good afternoon. Board members.

17481
09:21:18,167 --> 09:21:20,567
LaWanda Wright, director of

17482
09:21:21,700 --> 09:21:22,605
federal programs. At this time,

17483
09:21:22,605 --> 09:21:25,500
the federal government allows

17484
09:21:25,275 --> 09:21:27,243
the 1.6 multiplier, which is in

17485
09:21:27,243 --> 09:21:29,345
your presentation, to be tied

17486
09:21:29,345 --> 09:21:30,814
to the direct certified number

17487
09:21:30,814 --> 09:21:32,949
of students. And we've been

17488
09:21:32,949 --> 09:21:34,750
using this tool for our current

17489
09:21:34,750 --> 09:21:36,553
schools identified as cep. And

17490
09:21:36,553 --> 09:21:38,721
at this time, it does not have

17491
09:21:38,721 --> 09:21:41,721
a direct correlation or impact

17492
09:21:41,891 --> 09:21:43,359
on their allocation. The only

17493
09:21:43,359 --> 09:21:44,527
mitigating factor that's

17494
09:21:44,527 --> 09:21:46,927
impacting the allocations for

17495
09:21:47,697 --> 09:21:49,532
our school is the decline in

17496
09:21:49,532 --> 09:21:50,900
enrollment. That is the major

17497
09:21:50,900 --> 09:21:51,835
factor that's impacting their

17498
09:21:51,835 --> 09:21:53,837
allocation as it relates to

17499
09:21:53,837 --> 09:21:55,639
their title one designation. I

17500
09:21:55,639 --> 09:21:57,730
hope that was helpful.

17501
09:21:57,730 --> 09:21:58,475
>> Well, the I think the

17502
09:21:58,475 --> 09:22:00,610
concern principals have is if

17503
09:22:00,610 --> 09:22:04,210
we're cpe, they don't have to

17504
09:22:05,382 --> 09:22:06,782
fill out the form. And so then

17505
09:22:06,782 --> 09:22:09,618
how do they determine that

17506
09:22:09,618 --> 09:22:11,870
they're still title one schools.

17507
09:22:11,870 --> 09:22:12,922
>> We have always used in the

17508
09:22:12,922 --> 09:22:14,324
past our dashboard indicator

17509
09:22:14,324 --> 09:22:16,593
that gives them the number of

17510
09:22:16,593 --> 09:22:18,361
direct certified students with

17511
09:22:18,361 --> 09:22:20,463
the multiplier. And they use

17512
09:22:20,463 --> 09:22:22,863
this dashboard to determine

17513
09:22:22,932 --> 09:22:25,168
their percentage. All of this

17514
09:22:25,168 --> 09:22:27,637
data has been provided to our

17515
09:22:27,637 --> 09:22:29,106
principals for the last eight

17516
09:22:29,106 --> 09:22:30,507
years. And the title one, the

17517
09:22:30,507 --> 09:22:32,507
Federal Programs Department,

17518
09:22:32,742 --> 09:22:34,143
will be more than happy to

17519
09:22:34,143 --> 09:22:35,946
onboard and meet the needs of

17520
09:22:35,946 --> 09:22:37,280
those principles that need the

17521
09:22:37,280 --> 09:22:38,815
necessary technical assistance

17522
09:22:38,815 --> 09:22:40,350
and guidance.

17523
09:22:40,350 --> 09:22:43,519
>> Okay, awesome. So if we move

17524
09:22:43,519 --> 09:22:45,289
to cpe, what you're saying

17525
09:22:45,289 --> 09:22:47,570
basically is that it should not

17526
09:22:47,570 --> 09:22:48,559
affect those schools and their

17527
09:22:48,559 --> 09:22:50,559
title one funding.

17528
09:22:50,627 --> 09:22:52,829
>> So what I'm saying is, if

17529
09:22:52,829 --> 09:22:55,829
the district makes a decision

17530
09:22:56,399 --> 09:22:59,336
to move back to c, e p, there

17531
09:22:59,336 --> 09:23:02,336
are various factors that impact

17532
09:23:02,606 --> 09:23:05,600
their title one eligibility,

17533
09:23:05,876 --> 09:23:07,644
I.E low enrollment I e the

17534
09:23:07,644 --> 09:23:09,779
district's decision on how they

17535
09:23:09,779 --> 09:23:11,581
will use their title one

17536
09:23:11,581 --> 09:23:14,485
funding and leverage that to

17537
09:23:14,485 --> 09:23:15,185
serve back to the high school

17538
09:23:15,185 --> 09:23:17,185
conversation. There are

17539
09:23:17,321 --> 09:23:19,489
mitigating factors that MAY

17540
09:23:19,489 --> 09:23:20,590
impact the title one

17541
09:23:20,590 --> 09:23:22,920
designation. If we were to

17542
09:23:22,920 --> 09:23:25,920
increase the threshold like we

17543
09:23:25,962 --> 09:23:28,980
did previously, from 50% to 61%,

17544
09:23:28,980 --> 09:23:30,668
there are various factors that

17545
09:23:30,668 --> 09:23:32,102
will impact their title one

17546
09:23:32,102 --> 09:23:34,972
designation. This is why we

17547
09:23:34,972 --> 09:23:36,807
encourage our principals to

17548
09:23:36,807 --> 09:23:37,841
review the dashboard and

17549
09:23:37,841 --> 09:23:39,977
educate themselves on the

17550
09:23:39,977 --> 09:23:41,445
number of students they have,

17551
09:23:41,445 --> 09:23:42,879
review that information and

17552
09:23:42,879 --> 09:23:44,682
then they will see the

17553
09:23:44,682 --> 09:23:46,483
correlation of direct certified

17554
09:23:46,483 --> 09:23:48,752
students at their school and

17555
09:23:48,752 --> 09:23:51,152
the 1.6 multiplier that will

17556
09:23:51,588 --> 09:23:53,290
give them their percentage. I

17557
09:23:53,290 --> 09:23:54,458
hope that was helpful, MISS

17558
09:23:54,458 --> 09:23:56,227
Hixon.

17559
09:23:56,227 --> 09:23:57,695
>> Okay. Yes. Thank you. And

17560
09:23:57,695 --> 09:23:59,529
then the other piece that I

17561
09:23:59,529 --> 09:24:01,632
just want to which will be no

17562
09:24:01,632 --> 09:24:03,434
surprise to anyone, the return

17563
09:24:03,434 --> 09:24:04,869
to historical student charge

17564
09:24:04,869 --> 09:24:07,400
procedures. So when we had our

17565
09:24:07,400 --> 09:24:08,806
one on one, I got a lot of

17566
09:24:08,806 --> 09:24:12,406
pushback about how it is that

17567
09:24:13,143 --> 09:24:15,279
we can identify that a student

17568
09:24:15,279 --> 09:24:17,448
owes money or, you know, isn't

17569
09:24:17,448 --> 09:24:19,217
eligible for free and reduced

17570
09:24:19,217 --> 09:24:21,385
lunch so that we're avoiding

17571
09:24:21,385 --> 09:24:22,954
taking that, that tray of food

17572
09:24:22,954 --> 09:24:24,322
from them, throwing it away

17573
09:24:24,322 --> 09:24:26,570
after they've already gotten it

17574
09:24:26,570 --> 09:24:27,925
and giving them a wow sandwich.

17575
09:24:27,925 --> 09:24:30,361
So, Doctor Wanza, you said that

17576
09:24:30,361 --> 09:24:32,930
you had reached out to it. Can

17577
09:24:32,930 --> 09:24:34,165
you tell us what did they say?

17578
09:24:34,165 --> 09:24:35,799
And is that possible? And then

17579
09:24:35,799 --> 09:24:37,100
in our one on one, you had

17580
09:24:37,100 --> 09:24:39,360
mentioned you were going to

17581
09:24:39,360 --> 09:24:41,572
reach out to other counties to

17582
09:24:41,572 --> 09:24:43,441
see how they avoid the issue

17583
09:24:43,441 --> 09:24:46,244
that we ran into this year. So

17584
09:24:46,244 --> 09:24:47,112
can you tell us what

17585
09:24:47,112 --> 09:24:49,112
information you gathered?

17586
09:24:49,547 --> 09:24:50,915
>> So it is going to explore.

17587
09:24:50,915 --> 09:24:52,617
They are committed to

17588
09:24:52,617 --> 09:24:54,184
partnering with us to determine

17589
09:24:54,184 --> 09:24:55,987
how they can come up, how we,

17590
09:24:55,987 --> 09:24:58,556
as a as an organization can

17591
09:24:58,556 --> 09:25:00,658
come up with something where.

17592
09:25:00,658 --> 09:25:03,895
So let let me say this, MISS

17593
09:25:03,895 --> 09:25:04,962
Hixon so particularly at the

17594
09:25:04,962 --> 09:25:07,962
middle school and the high

17595
09:25:08,199 --> 09:25:09,968
school level, and I know. Well,

17596
09:25:09,968 --> 09:25:12,504
I'm going to go to high school.

17597
09:25:12,504 --> 09:25:13,738
We know at high school, during

17598
09:25:13,738 --> 09:25:16,138
lunchtime or whatever, students

17599
09:25:16,841 --> 09:25:20,441
can use their cell phone. There

17600
09:25:21,512 --> 09:25:24,490
is. The ability for students to

17601
09:25:24,490 --> 09:25:26,551
have the My School Books app on

17602
09:25:26,551 --> 09:25:28,319
their phone, and the students

17603
09:25:28,319 --> 09:25:30,540
know whether or not they have

17604
09:25:30,540 --> 09:25:33,580
money in their account. I mean,

17605
09:25:33,580 --> 09:25:36,995
we and and some of this, as

17606
09:25:36,995 --> 09:25:39,863
much as I am a 100% proponent

17607
09:25:39,863 --> 09:25:41,666
of feeding as many children as

17608
09:25:41,666 --> 09:25:44,666
possible who cannot, you know,

17609
09:25:46,400 --> 09:25:48,390
who cannot afford to pay for

17610
09:25:48,390 --> 09:25:49,207
meals, some of some of this we

17611
09:25:49,207 --> 09:25:50,308
do have to put back on our

17612
09:25:50,308 --> 09:25:52,430
families, because I had a

17613
09:25:52,430 --> 09:25:53,211
conversation with a number of

17614
09:25:53,211 --> 09:25:54,613
children this weekend,

17615
09:25:54,613 --> 09:25:56,381
particularly at church, and I

17616
09:25:56,381 --> 09:25:57,816
asked them about this whole

17617
09:25:57,816 --> 09:25:59,684
thing with meal charges and

17618
09:25:59,684 --> 09:26:01,787
stuff, and they said to me,

17619
09:26:01,787 --> 09:26:03,188
well, MISS Wanza, the district

17620
09:26:03,188 --> 09:26:04,689
was paying for it. There wasn't

17621
09:26:04,689 --> 09:26:06,524
a reason for me to need to have

17622
09:26:06,524 --> 09:26:08,327
money or to check anything,

17623
09:26:08,327 --> 09:26:09,694
because we always knew that the

17624
09:26:09,694 --> 09:26:11,163
school is going to give us the

17625
09:26:11,163 --> 09:26:14,650
meal. So there wasn't a reason,

17626
09:26:14,650 --> 09:26:15,200
right? So one of the things

17627
09:26:15,200 --> 09:26:17,336
that we are going to work with

17628
09:26:17,336 --> 09:26:19,710
it to see how we can do

17629
09:26:19,710 --> 09:26:21,206
something so that children have

17630
09:26:21,206 --> 09:26:23,208
the ability to see either

17631
09:26:23,208 --> 09:26:25,608
readily and focused or

17632
09:26:26,178 --> 09:26:28,130
something. Coming into the

17633
09:26:28,130 --> 09:26:30,149
cafeteria area. So we're going

17634
09:26:30,149 --> 09:26:33,752
to work on that. The other part

17635
09:26:33,752 --> 09:26:36,255
is, so no other other districts

17636
09:26:36,255 --> 09:26:38,157
actually make a concerted

17637
09:26:38,157 --> 09:26:39,892
effort where the district funds

17638
09:26:39,892 --> 09:26:41,660
the difference. Whatever the

17639
09:26:41,660 --> 09:26:43,950
difference is, the district

17640
09:26:43,950 --> 09:26:44,929
funds it. And I know that that

17641
09:26:44,929 --> 09:26:46,765
MAY not be our place right now,

17642
09:26:46,765 --> 09:26:48,499
and we certainly respect that.

17643
09:26:48,499 --> 09:26:50,135
And then the last part is, as I

17644
09:26:50,135 --> 09:26:51,369
said to you, we're going to

17645
09:26:51,369 --> 09:26:53,172
have to actually work with some

17646
09:26:53,172 --> 09:26:54,339
building level leaders around

17647
09:26:54,339 --> 09:26:57,509
what this will look like in

17648
09:26:57,509 --> 09:26:59,845
their building. I think the

17649
09:26:59,845 --> 09:27:01,814
again, the greatest challenge

17650
09:27:01,814 --> 09:27:03,282
will probably come at the

17651
09:27:03,282 --> 09:27:06,282
secondary level, more so than

17652
09:27:06,485 --> 09:27:08,320
the elementary level.

17653
09:27:08,320 --> 09:27:10,523
>> Okay. So basically when you

17654
09:27:10,523 --> 09:27:12,923
checked with other counties,

17655
09:27:13,920 --> 09:27:14,859
they, they do what we did this

17656
09:27:14,859 --> 09:27:15,561
year and that was just cover

17657
09:27:15,561 --> 09:27:17,329
the cost.

17658
09:27:17,329 --> 09:27:19,465
>> Well, well, they have some

17659
09:27:19,465 --> 09:27:21,266
version of cep with universal

17660
09:27:21,266 --> 09:27:24,266
free where the district covers

17661
09:27:24,937 --> 09:27:26,339
whatever is the deficit. And so

17662
09:27:26,339 --> 09:27:28,107
that is something that I know

17663
09:27:28,107 --> 09:27:29,341
we

17664
09:27:29,341 --> 09:27:31,177
>> Worked as an as a district

17665
09:27:31,177 --> 09:27:33,545
have to decide what is it that

17666
09:27:33,545 --> 09:27:35,715
the board. What direction does

17667
09:27:35,715 --> 09:27:37,917
the board want to take?

17668
09:27:37,917 --> 09:27:41,254
>> Okay. Thank you. So I would

17669
09:27:41,254 --> 09:27:43,389
say yes to option three with

17670
09:27:43,389 --> 09:27:45,191
making sure that our principals

17671
09:27:45,191 --> 09:27:47,259
know what they have to do so

17672
09:27:47,259 --> 09:27:50,563
that they don't get the issue

17673
09:27:50,563 --> 09:27:53,320
with the title one reduction if

17674
09:27:53,320 --> 09:27:54,867
possible. I'm not sure how I

17675
09:27:54,867 --> 09:27:56,669
feel about meal price increases,

17676
09:27:56,669 --> 09:27:57,837
but I, you know, everything's

17677
09:27:57,837 --> 09:28:01,437
increasing. So I guess if we

17678
09:28:02,508 --> 09:28:04,611
have to do that, I would I'm

17679
09:28:04,611 --> 09:28:06,479
concerned about the historical

17680
09:28:06,479 --> 09:28:07,847
student charge procedures

17681
09:28:07,847 --> 09:28:09,115
because that's how we ended up

17682
09:28:09,115 --> 09:28:10,950
where we're at now. And I don't

17683
09:28:10,950 --> 09:28:13,286
want to continue to be in this

17684
09:28:13,286 --> 09:28:13,785
place. So I would. Only say yes

17685
09:28:13,785 --> 09:28:15,388
to that.

17686
09:28:15,388 --> 09:28:16,822
>> Can, can can we just explain

17687
09:28:16,822 --> 09:28:18,691
what the historical charge

17688
09:28:18,691 --> 09:28:20,159
procedure was? It's not every

17689
09:28:20,159 --> 09:28:20,927
kid comes through and they

17690
09:28:20,927 --> 09:28:22,950
automatically don't have to pay,

17691
09:28:22,950 --> 09:28:23,763
don't have to pay, don't have

17692
09:28:23,763 --> 09:28:25,498
to pay. There are things that

17693
09:28:25,498 --> 09:28:26,899
we did strategically at the

17694
09:28:26,899 --> 09:28:29,101
elementary level. There was

17695
09:28:29,101 --> 09:28:30,203
some discretion at the

17696
09:28:30,203 --> 09:28:31,938
secondary level with middle

17697
09:28:31,938 --> 09:28:34,474
schools and high schools. And

17698
09:28:34,474 --> 09:28:37,430
in in our highest year of

17699
09:28:37,430 --> 09:28:39,946
having meal charges at the at

17700
09:28:39,946 --> 09:28:42,346
the historical practices, that

17701
09:28:42,549 --> 09:28:44,884
balance MAY have been $28,000

17702
09:28:44,884 --> 09:28:46,653
at most. And then we work with

17703
09:28:46,653 --> 09:28:48,653
community partners through

17704
09:28:48,821 --> 09:28:50,990
donations to have that balance

17705
09:28:50,990 --> 09:28:54,590
covered. It is true that this

17706
09:28:56,496 --> 09:28:57,998
year the balance is just over

17707
09:28:57,998 --> 09:28:59,998
728 or $29,000, because

17708
09:29:00,660 --> 09:29:01,900
students were of the mindset,

17709
09:29:01,900 --> 09:29:04,371
it doesn't matter. It's free

17710
09:29:04,371 --> 09:29:06,173
for me. It doesn't matter.

17711
09:29:06,173 --> 09:29:07,941
>> Yeah. And I, I appreciate

17712
09:29:07,941 --> 09:29:10,142
that. It's partly why I was

17713
09:29:10,142 --> 09:29:12,646
frustrated with us just early

17714
09:29:12,646 --> 09:29:13,780
on paying off that percent. I

17715
09:29:13,780 --> 09:29:16,316
mean, that money instead of

17716
09:29:16,316 --> 09:29:17,383
waiting till the end because it

17717
09:29:17,383 --> 09:29:19,850
continues to look like the

17718
09:29:19,850 --> 09:29:21,485
district's just covering the

17719
09:29:22,722 --> 09:29:24,857
cost. But I appreciate the

17720
09:29:24,857 --> 09:29:27,600
explanation on that. So, you

17721
09:29:27,600 --> 09:29:30,600
know, yes to whatever was

17722
09:29:30,262 --> 09:29:32,832
working better before, and I

17723
09:29:32,832 --> 09:29:34,200
will I'm okay with the

17724
09:29:34,200 --> 09:29:35,301
initiating a robust

17725
09:29:35,301 --> 09:29:37,137
communications plan, but I just

17726
09:29:37,137 --> 09:29:39,339
would like to add a caveat to

17727
09:29:39,339 --> 09:29:41,740
that. I think we had a robust

17728
09:29:41,740 --> 09:29:42,876
communication plan this year.

17729
09:29:42,876 --> 09:29:44,645
They just didn't hear it. So I

17730
09:29:44,645 --> 09:29:46,647
don't want to come across as a

17731
09:29:46,647 --> 09:29:48,480
board member to staff thinking

17732
09:29:48,480 --> 09:29:49,983
that I didn't think that you

17733
09:29:49,983 --> 09:29:51,485
all did everything possible to

17734
09:29:51,485 --> 09:29:54,485
make them understand that they

17735
09:29:55,210 --> 09:29:58,621
were not getting lunch for free

17736
09:30:01,595 --> 09:30:03,595
anymore.

17737
09:30:03,764 --> 09:30:05,532
>> I think we lost.

17738
09:30:05,532 --> 09:30:07,701
>> Communication plan would be

17739
09:30:07,701 --> 09:30:09,502
better suited there, because it

17740
09:30:09,502 --> 09:30:10,971
isn't as if we didn't do

17741
09:30:10,971 --> 09:30:12,720
something. And I, I do

17742
09:30:12,720 --> 09:30:13,974
appreciate what was done, but I

17743
09:30:13,974 --> 09:30:16,810
don't want to land in the same

17744
09:30:16,810 --> 09:30:18,946
place next year. So thank you.

17745
09:30:18,946 --> 09:30:20,981
>> Thank you. Before I call on

17746
09:30:20,981 --> 09:30:23,217
our student advisors, I did

17747
09:30:23,217 --> 09:30:26,817
need to call for public comment.

17748
09:30:27,220 --> 09:30:30,220
Rochelle Sofer. I don't think

17749
09:30:31,492 --> 09:30:33,226
she's here anymore. Lily and

17750
09:30:33,226 --> 09:30:35,226
Mikhail.

17751
09:30:36,897 --> 09:30:38,331
>> Okay, so from the student

17752
09:30:38,331 --> 09:30:39,800
perspective, the biggest

17753
09:30:39,800 --> 09:30:41,535
challenge with this shift is

17754
09:30:41,535 --> 09:30:43,370
that families have gotten used

17755
09:30:43,370 --> 09:30:46,273
to not doing anything for

17756
09:30:46,273 --> 09:30:48,375
school meals. Okay, for several

17757
09:30:48,375 --> 09:30:50,177
years. And my, my mom is guilty

17758
09:30:50,177 --> 09:30:52,779
of this as well for several

17759
09:30:52,779 --> 09:30:54,448
years because of the federal

17760
09:30:54,448 --> 09:30:57,384
Covid era waivers and the

17761
09:30:57,384 --> 09:30:59,860
higher cep eligibility, we were

17762
09:30:59,860 --> 09:31:00,855
able to offer free lunch to all

17763
09:31:00,855 --> 09:31:02,123
the students without requiring

17764
09:31:02,123 --> 09:31:03,991
any applications or anything

17765
09:31:03,991 --> 09:31:05,590
like that. Right. So parents

17766
09:31:05,590 --> 09:31:06,360
didn't have to fill out any

17767
09:31:06,360 --> 09:31:07,461
forms, and students didn't have

17768
09:31:07,461 --> 09:31:09,396
to worry about whether they

17769
09:31:09,396 --> 09:31:10,698
qualified or not. That became

17770
09:31:10,698 --> 09:31:12,567
the routine for them every

17771
09:31:12,567 --> 09:31:14,302
single year right now that

17772
09:31:14,302 --> 09:31:15,436
those waivers have expired,

17773
09:31:15,436 --> 09:31:17,338
families are suddenly being

17774
09:31:17,338 --> 09:31:19,600
asked to go back to a process

17775
09:31:19,600 --> 09:31:20,440
that many have not done in

17776
09:31:20,440 --> 09:31:22,944
years. Right. And some of them

17777
09:31:22,944 --> 09:31:24,470
have never done it at all. A

17778
09:31:24,470 --> 09:31:25,413
lot of the parents don't

17779
09:31:25,413 --> 09:31:26,180
understand why these things are

17780
09:31:26,180 --> 09:31:28,716
happening, and many of them

17781
09:31:28,716 --> 09:31:30,840
don't realize that by them not

17782
09:31:30,840 --> 09:31:32,840
submitting their application,

17783
09:31:32,687 --> 09:31:34,489
job applications, the

17784
09:31:34,489 --> 09:31:36,290
reimbursement drops to $0.55

17785
09:31:36,290 --> 09:31:38,759
per meal. And that's a major

17786
09:31:38,759 --> 09:31:40,561
reason why our student meal

17787
09:31:40,561 --> 09:31:42,961
debt grew from 94,000 in

17788
09:31:44,165 --> 09:31:46,565
SEPTEMBER to $735,000 in MAY,

17789
09:31:46,667 --> 09:31:48,502
which is around $80,000 per

17790
09:31:48,502 --> 09:31:51,502
month and a 30% increase every

17791
09:31:51,739 --> 09:31:54,308
single month as well. Now,

17792
09:31:54,308 --> 09:31:55,409
through skipped lunches, shared

17793
09:31:55,409 --> 09:31:56,510
foods, or avoiding the

17794
09:31:56,510 --> 09:31:58,613
cafeteria because they don't

17795
09:31:58,613 --> 09:32:00,140
want to be embarrassed. Right?

17796
09:32:00,140 --> 09:32:02,160
What we see in the schools is

17797
09:32:02,160 --> 09:32:03,284
simple families aren't ignoring

17798
09:32:03,284 --> 09:32:05,530
the application on purpose.

17799
09:32:05,530 --> 09:32:06,788
Many of them just think meals

17800
09:32:06,788 --> 09:32:08,723
are still free for everyone.

17801
09:32:08,723 --> 09:32:09,490
Some of them assume they won't

17802
09:32:09,490 --> 09:32:10,892
qualify. Others don't

17803
09:32:10,892 --> 09:32:12,293
understand that the application

17804
09:32:12,293 --> 09:32:14,280
affects school funding, and a

17805
09:32:14,280 --> 09:32:15,497
lot of families have never seen

17806
09:32:15,497 --> 09:32:18,333
the emails or the robo calls

17807
09:32:18,333 --> 09:32:20,535
that have been sent out. So

17808
09:32:20,535 --> 09:32:21,569
from a student and operational

17809
09:32:21,569 --> 09:32:23,104
standpoint, the district's

17810
09:32:23,104 --> 09:32:24,873
communication plan is very

17811
09:32:24,873 --> 09:32:25,940
important. But we need

17812
09:32:25,940 --> 09:32:27,576
messaging that is clearer,

17813
09:32:27,576 --> 09:32:29,544
shorter and also more visible

17814
09:32:29,544 --> 09:32:30,712
so that we can reach all the

17815
09:32:30,712 --> 09:32:32,147
students so that they can all

17816
09:32:32,147 --> 09:32:34,782
understand and the parents as

17817
09:32:34,782 --> 09:32:36,885
well. And a realistic step

17818
09:32:36,885 --> 09:32:38,553
would maybe be like a one

17819
09:32:38,553 --> 09:32:40,722
minute, one minute information

17820
09:32:40,722 --> 09:32:43,191
video that explains in plain

17821
09:32:43,191 --> 09:32:44,693
language as well why the meal

17822
09:32:44,693 --> 09:32:46,795
application matters and how it

17823
09:32:46,795 --> 09:32:48,596
supports the schools. But the

17824
09:32:48,596 --> 09:32:50,650
key is where it's shown it

17825
09:32:50,650 --> 09:32:51,566
should appear in places that

17826
09:32:51,566 --> 09:32:53,667
students can see and families

17827
09:32:53,667 --> 09:32:55,137
actually look at, like morning

17828
09:32:55,137 --> 09:32:56,904
announcements, cafeteria

17829
09:32:56,904 --> 09:32:58,640
screens as they had stated,

17830
09:32:58,640 --> 09:33:00,750
canvas dashboards, and even qr

17831
09:33:00,750 --> 09:33:02,770
codes that are placed in the

17832
09:33:02,770 --> 09:33:04,913
lunch line or whatever the case

17833
09:33:04,913 --> 09:33:06,648
MAY be. Right? These are small,

17834
09:33:06,648 --> 09:33:09,183
low cost changes that make the

17835
09:33:09,183 --> 09:33:10,384
message heard and hard to MISS

17836
09:33:10,384 --> 09:33:12,860
So that everyone can share it

17837
09:33:12,860 --> 09:33:13,522
at home and share it to their

17838
09:33:13,522 --> 09:33:15,924
families, so that our district

17839
09:33:15,924 --> 09:33:18,827
doesn't end up like this again

17840
09:33:18,827 --> 09:33:20,662
next school year. This is not a

17841
09:33:20,662 --> 09:33:22,564
new program. It's just a way

17842
09:33:22,564 --> 09:33:25,000
that families have to adjust

17843
09:33:25,000 --> 09:33:26,235
from a world where they were

17844
09:33:26,235 --> 09:33:28,603
automatically free, to a world

17845
09:33:28,603 --> 09:33:29,805
where paperwork matters again.

17846
09:33:29,805 --> 09:33:31,906
So if the district does move

17847
09:33:31,906 --> 09:33:33,410
forward with option three,

17848
09:33:33,410 --> 09:33:34,943
students want to make sure the

17849
09:33:34,943 --> 09:33:36,544
rollout is clear, accessible,

17850
09:33:36,544 --> 09:33:37,579
and also supportive. So no

17851
09:33:37,579 --> 09:33:39,460
student should be choosing

17852
09:33:39,460 --> 09:33:40,849
between learning and eating.

17853
09:33:40,849 --> 09:33:42,617
That's number one and improving

17854
09:33:42,617 --> 09:33:44,185
how we communicate. This change

17855
09:33:44,185 --> 09:33:47,785
can make a real difference for

17856
09:33:49,558 --> 09:33:51,958
our students. Thank you.

17857
09:33:53,429 --> 09:33:55,631
>> All right. So I do have

17858
09:33:55,631 --> 09:33:57,365
questions. So first of all, I'm

17859
09:33:57,365 --> 09:33:58,901
looking at the pricing that

17860
09:33:58,901 --> 09:34:00,969
we're talking about. That's

17861
09:34:00,969 --> 09:34:03,369
pending board approval for 26

17862
09:34:04,940 --> 09:34:08,277
to 27. Would there be a way for

17863
09:34:08,277 --> 09:34:10,246
the reduced lunch amount to be

17864
09:34:10,246 --> 09:34:11,947
reduced even more just because

17865
09:34:11,947 --> 09:34:13,716
I think it is, you know, very

17866
09:34:13,716 --> 09:34:16,152
unfortunate that we have to

17867
09:34:16,152 --> 09:34:17,586
raise the cost of lunches for

17868
09:34:17,586 --> 09:34:18,921
students. You know, McHale, you

17869
09:34:18,921 --> 09:34:20,220
had said that you had dealt

17870
09:34:20,220 --> 09:34:22,580
with the free and reduced lunch.

17871
09:34:22,580 --> 09:34:23,250
I know I used to do that when I

17872
09:34:23,250 --> 09:34:24,961
was younger. Luckily, I no

17873
09:34:24,961 --> 09:34:26,280
longer have to, but I think it

17874
09:34:26,280 --> 09:34:27,229
is just unfortunate, you know,

17875
09:34:27,229 --> 09:34:29,310
with how the world is today and

17876
09:34:29,310 --> 09:34:30,933
how the economy is today, that

17877
09:34:30,933 --> 09:34:32,134
we do have to raise it. So is

17878
09:34:32,134 --> 09:34:33,369
there a way for that $0.40

17879
09:34:33,369 --> 09:34:34,870
reduction to be higher, if that

17880
09:34:34,870 --> 09:34:36,305
makes sense, like further

17881
09:34:36,305 --> 09:34:38,305
reduced?

17882
09:34:40,643 --> 09:34:42,511
>> So not per the usda. So it

17883
09:34:42,511 --> 09:34:44,680
would have to be at 40%, I mean,

17884
09:34:44,680 --> 09:34:46,214
at $0.40. So the only thing

17885
09:34:46,214 --> 09:34:48,583
that we would be able to do

17886
09:34:48,583 --> 09:34:49,985
with the p l tool is the

17887
09:34:49,985 --> 09:34:53,585
lunches, like raise it a dollar

17888
09:34:53,656 --> 09:34:54,690
or what the board decides. Okay.

17889
09:34:54,690 --> 09:34:56,125
>> And then additionally, this

17890
09:34:56,125 --> 09:34:57,760
is just something I want to

17891
09:34:57,760 --> 09:34:59,261
comment on kind of a question,

17892
09:34:59,261 --> 09:35:00,296
kind of a comment, because this

17893
09:35:00,296 --> 09:35:02,310
is something that I know I've

17894
09:35:02,310 --> 09:35:05,134
dealt with with school lunch. I

17895
09:35:05,134 --> 09:35:06,135
buy it pretty often is if you

17896
09:35:06,135 --> 09:35:07,603
haha like,f youu d dn'tt p p

17897
09:35:07,603 --> 09:35:09,839
monene o oyour aouou and the

17898
09:35:09,839 --> 09:35:10,839
let't's say you have a $ debt. I

17899
09:35:10,839 --> 09:35:12,375
don't know if you guys have

17900
09:35:12,375 --> 09:35:15,110
fixed this. I have not seen it

17901
09:35:15,110 --> 09:35:17,346
fixed at my school is I can put

17902
09:35:17,346 --> 09:35:19,480
like $20 onto my account, but

17903
09:35:19,480 --> 09:35:21,170
that $3 debt you have to pay

17904
09:35:21,170 --> 09:35:22,752
back in cash so I can keep

17905
09:35:22,752 --> 09:35:24,720
putting. Yeah, it's happened to

17906
09:35:24,720 --> 09:35:26,220
me. And the worst part is it

17907
09:35:26,220 --> 09:35:27,156
won't take the money out of my

17908
09:35:27,156 --> 09:35:29,580
account. It keeps adding on to

17909
09:35:29,580 --> 09:35:31,127
the debt. So like, let's say I

17910
09:35:31,127 --> 09:35:33,290
had a $3 debt and then I have

17911
09:35:33,290 --> 09:35:34,630
20 on my account. If I go buy

17912
09:35:34,630 --> 09:35:36,650
another lunch, it adds on to

17913
09:35:36,650 --> 09:35:37,990
the debt separately. So I don't

17914
09:35:37,990 --> 09:35:38,267
know if that's a school thing

17915
09:35:38,267 --> 09:35:40,269
or if that's a you guys thing.

17916
09:35:40,269 --> 09:35:41,337
>> So I could I could speak to

17917
09:35:41,337 --> 09:35:42,973
the meal obligation in regards

17918
09:35:42,973 --> 09:35:44,340
to the monies being taken out

17919
09:35:44,340 --> 09:35:45,442
due to the quick turnaround of

17920
09:35:45,442 --> 09:35:47,177
implementing meal obligation

17921
09:35:47,177 --> 09:35:49,577
and implementing the structure

17922
09:35:49,779 --> 09:35:52,150
behind it. The removal of the

17923
09:35:52,150 --> 09:35:52,816
debt is something that was not

17924
09:35:52,816 --> 09:35:54,317
automated. We are still trying

17925
09:35:54,317 --> 09:35:56,319
to work on an automated process

17926
09:35:56,319 --> 09:35:57,420
to make it where if you have a

17927
09:35:57,420 --> 09:35:58,655
debt either to the school or to

17928
09:35:58,655 --> 09:35:59,856
the principal account, it would

17929
09:35:59,856 --> 09:36:01,491
be taken out automatically.

17930
09:36:01,491 --> 09:36:03,326
What we were able to do in the

17931
09:36:03,326 --> 09:36:04,928
short time that we did have it

17932
09:36:04,928 --> 09:36:06,763
enacted, was give you the

17933
09:36:06,763 --> 09:36:08,630
balance shown on focus and on

17934
09:36:08,630 --> 09:36:09,299
my school books, so that when

17935
09:36:09,299 --> 09:36:10,700
you did make a payment, it

17936
09:36:10,700 --> 09:36:12,201
would surface it up and then

17937
09:36:12,201 --> 09:36:13,603
through through training and

17938
09:36:13,603 --> 09:36:15,205
meal operations. We taught the

17939
09:36:15,205 --> 09:36:16,473
staff on how to take those debt

17940
09:36:16,473 --> 09:36:18,175
off. So if your school was not

17941
09:36:18,175 --> 09:36:19,176
doing that on a daily basis,

17942
09:36:19,176 --> 09:36:20,430
depending on the training

17943
09:36:20,430 --> 09:36:21,445
provided, that was another

17944
09:36:21,445 --> 09:36:22,846
issue we needed to address. So

17945
09:36:22,846 --> 09:36:24,470
thank you. Correct.

17946
09:36:24,470 --> 09:36:25,115
>> Yeah. Just because it was

17947
09:36:25,115 --> 09:36:26,849
like really annoying when I

17948
09:36:26,849 --> 09:36:27,950
would have money in my account

17949
09:36:27,950 --> 09:36:29,853
and they're like, no, you need

17950
09:36:29,853 --> 09:36:30,988
to pay it back in cash. And

17951
09:36:30,988 --> 09:36:32,856
it's like, well, I have, I have

17952
09:36:32,856 --> 09:36:34,240
money on there, but I yeah, so

17953
09:36:34,240 --> 09:36:35,792
if you guys can do something.

17954
09:36:35,792 --> 09:36:36,860
>> But it has been taken care

17955
09:36:36,860 --> 09:36:37,995
of at the moment.

17956
09:36:37,995 --> 09:36:39,929
>> Yeah. No, my debt was fine

17957
09:36:39,929 --> 09:36:40,964
because I paid it back in cash.

17958
09:36:40,964 --> 09:36:42,833
Like it's not like, it's not

17959
09:36:42,833 --> 09:36:43,866
like the debt stays in there,

17960
09:36:43,866 --> 09:36:45,702
but it's just like if I had

17961
09:36:45,702 --> 09:36:46,869
bought lunch before I put money

17962
09:36:46,869 --> 09:36:48,805
in my account, it'll be like a

17963
09:36:48,805 --> 09:36:49,906
$3 debt. But even if I put,

17964
09:36:49,906 --> 09:36:51,707
let's say $10, $20 in my

17965
09:36:51,707 --> 09:36:52,909
account, it doesn't pay off the

17966
09:36:52,909 --> 09:36:53,709
debt. You have to pay it back

17967
09:36:53,709 --> 09:36:54,811
in cash.

17968
09:36:54,811 --> 09:36:55,945
>> The other system also

17969
09:36:55,945 --> 09:36:57,747
prompts you to next time you go

17970
09:36:57,747 --> 09:36:58,882
through the line, yeah, you had

17971
09:36:58,882 --> 09:36:59,820
the debt and you never went

17972
09:36:59,820 --> 09:37:00,750
back.

17973
09:37:00,750 --> 09:37:01,985
>> That's what I'm saying. Like

17974
09:37:01,985 --> 09:37:03,720
you have to bring the cash. You

17975
09:37:03,720 --> 09:37:04,888
can't like pay it off online.

17976
09:37:04,888 --> 09:37:06,724
That's what I think it should

17977
09:37:06,724 --> 09:37:06,957
be like. You can pay it off

17978
09:37:06,957 --> 09:37:07,925
online.

17979
09:37:07,925 --> 09:37:08,825
>> But that's definitely

17980
09:37:08,825 --> 09:37:10,270
something we'll look into just

17981
09:37:10,270 --> 09:37:11,762
to make sure for, you know, the

17982
09:37:11,762 --> 09:37:12,829
next student, you know, that

17983
09:37:12,829 --> 09:37:13,830
that doesn't occur with them.

17984
09:37:13,830 --> 09:37:15,310
But thank you so much.

17985
09:37:15,310 --> 09:37:16,700
>> So the question becomes,

17986
09:37:16,700 --> 09:37:17,935
what are we going to do to

17987
09:37:17,935 --> 09:37:18,802
ensure that all of the students

17988
09:37:18,802 --> 09:37:19,837
and parents understand that

17989
09:37:19,837 --> 09:37:21,305
these forms and these

17990
09:37:21,305 --> 09:37:23,107
applications do matter, because

17991
09:37:23,107 --> 09:37:23,674
this can't happen again next

17992
09:37:23,674 --> 09:37:25,575
year?

17993
09:37:25,575 --> 09:37:27,510
>> So, so I can mention that we

17994
09:37:27,510 --> 09:37:29,460
did start back in MAY when we

17995
09:37:29,460 --> 09:37:30,881
knew we were transitioning back

17996
09:37:30,881 --> 09:37:32,516
because as you stated, it's a

17997
09:37:32,516 --> 09:37:34,451
perfect example. You know, some

17998
09:37:34,451 --> 09:37:36,386
kids started in kindergarten

17999
09:37:36,386 --> 09:37:38,880
with the pandemic. By the time,

18000
09:37:38,880 --> 09:37:39,857
you know, fifth grade, they

18001
09:37:39,857 --> 09:37:41,992
knew the kids were getting the

18002
09:37:41,992 --> 09:37:44,627
meals for free. So we started

18003
09:37:44,627 --> 09:37:46,797
in MAY. We did news media

18004
09:37:46,797 --> 09:37:49,197
interviews with channel seven,

18005
09:37:49,600 --> 09:37:52,535
nbc six, Telemundo. We did

18006
09:37:52,535 --> 09:37:54,400
moments with the mayor. We did

18007
09:37:54,400 --> 09:37:57,174
conferences. We did a lot of

18008
09:37:57,174 --> 09:37:58,676
open house backpack giveaways,

18009
09:37:58,676 --> 09:38:00,444
outreach to the community. So

18010
09:38:00,444 --> 09:38:01,879
we were out there with

18011
09:38:01,879 --> 09:38:04,114
applications, our Purple Shirts,

18012
09:38:04,114 --> 09:38:07,114
Saturdays events, just to reach

18013
09:38:07,585 --> 09:38:09,586
out to parents. But if you can

18014
09:38:09,586 --> 09:38:11,155
recommend or we can hear better

18015
09:38:11,155 --> 09:38:12,356
ways for students, you know,

18016
09:38:12,356 --> 09:38:14,158
because the issue would be we

18017
09:38:14,158 --> 09:38:16,260
were out there, but then the

18018
09:38:16,260 --> 09:38:18,362
parents really didn't show up.

18019
09:38:18,362 --> 09:38:19,730
So any way, any suggestions

18020
09:38:19,730 --> 09:38:20,965
that you guys have, especially

18021
09:38:20,965 --> 09:38:22,800
with high school students that

18022
09:38:22,800 --> 09:38:24,302
we can get out there, open

18023
09:38:24,302 --> 09:38:25,937
house or any events, we would

18024
09:38:25,937 --> 09:38:27,105
be happy to be out there

18025
09:38:27,105 --> 09:38:28,905
because the whole goal is we

18026
09:38:28,905 --> 09:38:30,800
want to not only educate the

18027
09:38:30,800 --> 09:38:32,376
parents, but we also go out

18028
09:38:32,376 --> 09:38:34,645
with laptops. And the big thing

18029
09:38:34,645 --> 09:38:36,113
is we want parents to also

18030
09:38:36,113 --> 09:38:37,882
understand that citizenship is

18031
09:38:37,882 --> 09:38:40,840
not a factor when it comes to

18032
09:38:40,840 --> 09:38:41,485
completing the application. The.

18033
09:38:41,485 --> 09:38:42,954
With the Social Security, they

18034
09:38:42,954 --> 09:38:44,121
can list the last four digits.

18035
09:38:44,121 --> 09:38:45,123
So we have some parents that

18036
09:38:45,123 --> 09:38:46,157
don't feel comfortable with

18037
09:38:46,157 --> 09:38:47,958
that and they just check the

18038
09:38:47,958 --> 09:38:49,860
box. No social. We just want

18039
09:38:49,860 --> 09:38:51,529
parents to know that there's an

18040
09:38:51,529 --> 09:38:52,697
option for their students when

18041
09:38:52,697 --> 09:38:54,165
it comes to an application and

18042
09:38:54,165 --> 09:38:55,800
not just thinking, wait, I'm in

18043
09:38:55,800 --> 09:38:57,670
a hardship and I'm not going to

18044
09:38:57,670 --> 09:38:59,204
do the hour. I don't know about

18045
09:38:59,204 --> 09:39:00,371
the application. So yes, we

18046
09:39:00,371 --> 09:39:02,340
still want to get out there. So

18047
09:39:02,340 --> 09:39:03,841
as soon as we know what

18048
09:39:03,841 --> 09:39:05,543
decision the board will go, we

18049
09:39:05,543 --> 09:39:06,311
want to get that out there to

18050
09:39:06,311 --> 09:39:07,911
parents right away.

18051
09:39:07,911 --> 09:39:09,681
>> Okay, beautiful. So it does

18052
09:39:09,681 --> 09:39:11,749
sound like you guys did do as

18053
09:39:11,749 --> 09:39:12,550
much as you can when it came to

18054
09:39:12,550 --> 09:39:14,285
communication and trying to

18055
09:39:14,285 --> 09:39:17,756
reach out to the parents and

18056
09:39:17,756 --> 09:39:21,356
the students and stuff. So yeah,

18057
09:39:22,860 --> 09:39:25,363
on my friend. Yeah. Okay.

18058
09:39:25,363 --> 09:39:28,265
>> Is that it? Okay, MISS

18059
09:39:28,265 --> 09:39:30,101
Thompson?

18060
09:39:30,101 --> 09:39:32,203
>> Thank you. Chair, I think,

18061
09:39:32,203 --> 09:39:34,606
do we have a breakdown of how

18062
09:39:34,606 --> 09:39:36,207
many students that switching

18063
09:39:36,207 --> 09:39:39,144
doing option three or switching

18064
09:39:39,144 --> 09:39:39,744
to option one? What is the

18065
09:39:39,744 --> 09:39:41,246
actual.

18066
09:39:41,246 --> 09:39:42,546
>> Student benefit or the

18067
09:39:42,546 --> 09:39:44,816
number of students will be able

18068
09:39:44,816 --> 09:39:48,416
to feed as opposed to the

18069
09:39:49,120 --> 09:39:50,922
traditional meal applications.

18070
09:39:50,922 --> 09:39:52,758
>> So that would so we have

18071
09:39:52,758 --> 09:39:54,893
number of schools, right? And

18072
09:39:54,893 --> 09:39:57,496
then the. And then depending on

18073
09:39:57,496 --> 09:39:59,230
how what variation of groupings

18074
09:39:59,230 --> 09:40:00,498
that we use at the at the

18075
09:40:00,498 --> 09:40:02,498
various percentages, whether

18076
09:40:03,568 --> 09:40:05,404
it's a 100% free full

18077
09:40:05,404 --> 09:40:07,804
reimbursement, the 40% of the

18078
09:40:08,540 --> 09:40:10,709
25. That would then be

18079
09:40:10,709 --> 09:40:13,109
predicated on the students

18080
09:40:13,245 --> 09:40:15,947
enrolled in the schools. So we

18081
09:40:15,947 --> 09:40:18,417
have the number of schools that

18082
09:40:18,417 --> 09:40:19,851
would qualify, and then the

18083
09:40:19,851 --> 09:40:21,186
number of students that's just

18084
09:40:21,186 --> 09:40:22,254
based on the enrollment in

18085
09:40:22,254 --> 09:40:24,254
those various schools,

18086
09:40:26,625 --> 09:40:28,594
depending on the groupings.

18087
09:40:28,594 --> 09:40:32,300
>> So the goal is to make sure

18088
09:40:32,300 --> 09:40:34,866
the most amount of kids are fed.

18089
09:40:34,866 --> 09:40:35,234
What is the option staff would

18090
09:40:35,234 --> 09:40:37,234
recommend.

18091
09:40:40,939 --> 09:40:43,508
>> So. The goal to make sure

18092
09:40:43,508 --> 09:40:47,112
the most amount of kids are fed

18093
09:40:47,112 --> 09:40:49,248
are at the 25%. However, the

18094
09:40:49,248 --> 09:40:51,749
goal of making sure the most

18095
09:40:51,749 --> 09:40:53,919
amount of kids are are fed. But

18096
09:40:53,919 --> 09:40:56,155
also we have to look at the

18097
09:40:56,155 --> 09:40:57,623
financial responsibility that,

18098
09:40:57,623 --> 09:40:58,991
you know, comes with. And all

18099
09:40:58,991 --> 09:41:03,620
of that we would say would be

18100
09:41:03,620 --> 09:41:04,396
at the 40%. But we are here to

18101
09:41:04,396 --> 09:41:07,233
listen to the board. That is

18102
09:41:07,233 --> 09:41:10,569
why we gave the revised. Slide

18103
09:41:10,569 --> 09:41:13,569
15. Because when you see the

18104
09:41:15,141 --> 09:41:17,743
the column tt says local

18105
09:41:17,743 --> 09:41:19,545
sources of revenue loss. So

18106
09:41:19,545 --> 09:41:20,912
basically that's the when, when

18107
09:41:20,912 --> 09:41:22,682
parents have to pay, right to

18108
09:41:22,682 --> 09:41:24,216
pay for the full pay, the

18109
09:41:24,216 --> 09:41:26,285
things of that and, you know,

18110
09:41:26,285 --> 09:41:29,187
to pay for the meal. So when

18111
09:41:29,187 --> 09:41:32,580
you look at what would be the

18112
09:41:32,580 --> 09:41:34,627
option that would provide food,

18113
09:41:34,627 --> 09:41:36,620
free, meaning free lunch to the

18114
09:41:36,620 --> 09:41:39,620
most amount of children, but

18115
09:41:39,999 --> 09:41:42,467
also in a very fiscally. You

18116
09:41:42,467 --> 09:41:45,467
know, conscious way, it would

18117
09:41:46,105 --> 09:41:48,207
be grouped at the 40%.

18118
09:41:48,207 --> 09:41:50,207
>> All right.

18119
09:41:51,144 --> 09:41:51,444
>> And that's what option three

18120
09:41:51,444 --> 09:41:53,444
is.

18121
09:41:54,380 --> 09:41:57,980
>> So option three is we do

18122
09:41:57,984 --> 09:41:59,886
some variation of c, e, p with

18123
09:41:59,886 --> 09:42:02,286
the meal applications, meaning

18124
09:42:03,220 --> 09:42:05,459
we do whatever variation we can

18125
09:42:05,459 --> 09:42:07,293
of feeding the most amount of

18126
09:42:07,293 --> 09:42:10,196
kids. And the most fiscally

18127
09:42:10,196 --> 09:42:12,798
responsible way. And for the

18128
09:42:12,798 --> 09:42:15,301
schools that do not qualify for

18129
09:42:15,301 --> 09:42:17,837
c, e, p, then those schools, we

18130
09:42:17,837 --> 09:42:20,739
would do the meal applications

18131
09:42:20,739 --> 09:42:22,739
for.

18132
09:42:23,243 --> 09:42:25,444
>> And so how are we

18133
09:42:25,444 --> 09:42:27,180
determining that grouping and

18134
09:42:27,180 --> 09:42:28,715
what factor? Because I'm

18135
09:42:28,715 --> 09:42:30,749
getting and we talked about

18136
09:42:30,749 --> 09:42:31,918
this on my one on one. I'm

18137
09:42:31,918 --> 09:42:33,918
getting pushback from

18138
09:42:34,353 --> 09:42:35,388
principals about the harm, the

18139
09:42:35,388 --> 09:42:36,222
unintentional harm that this

18140
09:42:36,222 --> 09:42:38,222
will cause.

18141
09:42:38,390 --> 09:42:40,390
>> So. So MISS.

18142
09:42:40,459 --> 09:42:42,295
>> How are we making that a

18143
09:42:42,295 --> 09:42:43,863
factor? And I know you, it was

18144
09:42:43,863 --> 09:42:46,231
told to MRS. Hixon that that's

18145
09:42:46,231 --> 09:42:47,700
not a problem. But I still,

18146
09:42:47,700 --> 09:42:48,702
even with explaining it to

18147
09:42:48,702 --> 09:42:50,570
principals, what I got

18148
09:42:50,570 --> 09:42:53,139
explained, they still feel like

18149
09:42:53,139 --> 09:42:53,839
it's they're they're concerned.

18150
09:42:53,839 --> 09:42:55,800
>> So so.

18151
09:42:55,800 --> 09:42:56,800
>> This is how do I address

18152
09:42:56,800 --> 09:42:57,777
that?

18153
09:42:57,777 --> 09:43:00,647
>> So what I will say, and

18154
09:43:00,647 --> 09:43:03,830
obviously MISS Wright can come

18155
09:43:03,830 --> 09:43:05,185
back up at any time to either

18156
09:43:05,185 --> 09:43:07,585
elaborate or clarify anything

18157
09:43:08,154 --> 09:43:10,357
that MAY not be, you know,

18158
09:43:10,357 --> 09:43:11,958
consistent with what she said

18159
09:43:11,958 --> 09:43:16,158
or that MAY not be aligned to

18160
09:43:16,463 --> 09:43:17,530
what she said. So cep is

18161
09:43:17,530 --> 09:43:18,865
ensuring that, you know, the

18162
09:43:18,865 --> 09:43:21,865
maximum amount of kids at

18163
09:43:22,536 --> 09:43:24,936
whatever percentage we identify

18164
09:43:26,239 --> 09:43:28,342
have free lunch as well. What

18165
09:43:28,342 --> 09:43:29,843
principals are concerned about

18166
09:43:29,843 --> 09:43:31,310
at the end of the day is

18167
09:43:31,310 --> 09:43:33,413
probably, yes, they want kids

18168
09:43:33,413 --> 09:43:34,480
to eat. I I'm a former

18169
09:43:34,480 --> 09:43:36,650
principal. They do not want

18170
09:43:36,650 --> 09:43:38,785
kids to be hungry. However,

18171
09:43:38,785 --> 09:43:41,421
they also know that they get a

18172
09:43:41,421 --> 09:43:43,821
title one allocation that

18173
09:43:43,824 --> 09:43:46,359
allows for them to do other

18174
09:43:46,359 --> 09:43:48,759
supplemental things in their

18175
09:43:49,963 --> 09:43:51,965
schools to to ensure that their

18176
09:43:51,965 --> 09:43:53,199
academic program, the services

18177
09:43:53,199 --> 09:43:55,100
that they're providing for

18178
09:43:55,100 --> 09:43:56,837
children, that all of that

18179
09:43:56,837 --> 09:43:57,972
remains intact and they can

18180
09:43:57,972 --> 09:44:00,808
continue to do it at a very

18181
09:44:00,808 --> 09:44:02,543
high level. What MISS Wright

18182
09:44:02,543 --> 09:44:05,543
explained is that a school's

18183
09:44:06,146 --> 09:44:08,546
title one designation isn't

18184
09:44:08,681 --> 09:44:11,551
solely based on is the district

18185
09:44:11,551 --> 09:44:15,122
doing cep or not? Is that a

18186
09:44:15,122 --> 09:44:17,424
correct statement? Okay, so

18187
09:44:17,424 --> 09:44:20,424
what she was explaining that.

18188
09:44:20,593 --> 09:44:21,962
So what what impacted some

18189
09:44:21,962 --> 09:44:24,931
schools was whether we were

18190
09:44:24,931 --> 09:44:26,667
doing c, e, p or not, if the if

18191
09:44:26,667 --> 09:44:28,135
the district made a

18192
09:44:28,135 --> 09:44:29,869
determination that, you know,

18193
09:44:29,869 --> 09:44:32,439
meals free and reduced lunch

18194
09:44:32,439 --> 09:44:35,439
status is going to percentage

18195
09:44:37,845 --> 09:44:39,613
rather is going to change from

18196
09:44:39,613 --> 09:44:42,613
55% to 62%. And I'm a school

18197
09:44:44,510 --> 09:44:47,153
that had a 58%. The fact that

18198
09:44:47,153 --> 09:44:50,123
I'm not at 62, I have I no

18199
09:44:50,123 --> 09:44:51,759
longer qualify for federal

18200
09:44:51,759 --> 09:44:55,359
title one funds, and that has

18201
09:44:55,863 --> 09:44:58,299
nothing to do with cep. That

18202
09:44:58,299 --> 09:45:01,899
has everything to do with the

18203
09:45:02,360 --> 09:45:03,738
families in my school, only 58%

18204
09:45:03,738 --> 09:45:05,506
of the families there or the

18205
09:45:05,506 --> 09:45:07,308
people who submitted

18206
09:45:07,308 --> 09:45:09,176
applications actually qualify

18207
09:45:09,176 --> 09:45:12,747
for free and reduced lunch. And

18208
09:45:12,747 --> 09:45:14,916
that is what then impacted my

18209
09:45:14,916 --> 09:45:16,490
school's title one designation.

18210
09:45:16,490 --> 09:45:18,519
Is that an accurate statement,

18211
09:45:18,519 --> 09:45:18,886
MISS Wright?

18212
09:45:18,886 --> 09:45:19,520
>> Affirmative.

18213
09:45:19,520 --> 09:45:21,388
>> Okay.

18214
09:45:21,388 --> 09:45:23,224
>> Thank you.

18215
09:45:23,224 --> 09:45:24,659
>> So when we're doing the

18216
09:45:24,659 --> 09:45:27,590
grouping of eligible schools

18217
09:45:27,161 --> 09:45:29,764
for cep, are we going to go to

18218
09:45:29,764 --> 09:45:31,499
the principals before we

18219
09:45:31,499 --> 09:45:34,335
designate them as cep to let

18220
09:45:34,335 --> 09:45:35,769
them know about, you know, the

18221
09:45:35,769 --> 09:45:37,671
positives and potential

18222
09:45:37,671 --> 09:45:39,473
consequences of this? Are the

18223
09:45:39,473 --> 09:45:41,576
is the district just going to

18224
09:45:41,576 --> 09:45:45,176
decide what school is going to

18225
09:45:48,749 --> 09:45:49,851
be c p or not?

18226
09:45:49,851 --> 09:45:51,851
>> The percentage is.

18227
09:45:52,687 --> 09:45:54,856
>> So we will definitely have a

18228
09:45:54,856 --> 09:45:56,691
conversation with principals.

18229
09:45:56,691 --> 09:45:59,910
However, their percentage is

18230
09:45:59,560 --> 09:46:01,396
their percentage. We can't

18231
09:46:01,396 --> 09:46:02,797
change that. Their their

18232
09:46:02,797 --> 09:46:04,265
percentage is their percentage.

18233
09:46:04,265 --> 09:46:06,401
But we absolutely. To your

18234
09:46:06,401 --> 09:46:07,869
point, MISS Thompson, and you

18235
09:46:07,869 --> 09:46:11,720
know, the board's point as a

18236
09:46:11,720 --> 09:46:12,873
whole, we have an obligation to

18237
09:46:12,873 --> 09:46:16,473
inform and to educate, but we

18238
09:46:17,612 --> 09:46:18,780
can't change their percentage.

18239
09:46:18,780 --> 09:46:21,780
>> Well, and, you know, of

18240
09:46:25,119 --> 09:46:27,222
course I want to I just I'm I.

18241
09:46:27,222 --> 09:46:29,491
It's just a challenging

18242
09:46:29,491 --> 09:46:31,259
decision. I will go towards

18243
09:46:31,259 --> 09:46:33,259
staff's recommendation only

18244
09:46:34,196 --> 09:46:35,564
because of the reassurance of

18245
09:46:35,564 --> 09:46:38,660
title one that you guys have

18246
09:46:38,660 --> 09:46:39,968
given. I cannot support an

18247
09:46:39,968 --> 09:46:42,370
increase of meal prices. We

18248
09:46:42,370 --> 09:46:44,172
have found money for other

18249
09:46:44,172 --> 09:46:47,772
things that is not as important

18250
09:46:47,843 --> 09:46:49,244
as feeding children. And I have

18251
09:46:49,244 --> 09:46:51,460
talked to high school students

18252
09:46:51,460 --> 09:46:52,814
as recently as a week ago that

18253
09:46:52,814 --> 09:46:55,717
have said their friends don't

18254
09:46:55,717 --> 09:46:59,287
eat because the meal at the

18255
09:46:59,287 --> 09:47:02,624
current prices are too much. So

18256
09:47:02,624 --> 09:47:05,527
I can't do that. And then the

18257
09:47:05,527 --> 09:47:07,663
other recommendations I agree

18258
09:47:07,663 --> 09:47:09,831
with, and I agree with MRS.

18259
09:47:09,831 --> 09:47:10,932
Hixon on saying not initiate a

18260
09:47:10,932 --> 09:47:12,334
robust communications, because

18261
09:47:12,334 --> 09:47:14,803
I think we did a really good

18262
09:47:14,803 --> 09:47:16,605
job communicating, but just

18263
09:47:16,605 --> 09:47:18,507
consistent communication and

18264
09:47:18,507 --> 09:47:20,909
not flip flopping on how we're

18265
09:47:20,909 --> 09:47:24,912
doing meals, I think will be a

18266
09:47:24,912 --> 09:47:27,912
benefit to everybody. Thank you.

18267
09:47:28,160 --> 09:47:30,416
>> Thank you, MRS. Alhadeff.

18268
09:47:33,155 --> 09:47:34,356
>> Option three. Thank you.

18269
09:47:34,356 --> 09:47:36,258
>> Doctor Wanza do you need us

18270
09:47:36,258 --> 09:47:38,527
to weigh in also on the 40%

18271
09:47:38,527 --> 09:47:40,527
versus 25%?

18272
09:47:40,596 --> 09:47:42,831
>> Yes. And the one thing that

18273
09:47:42,831 --> 09:47:47,310
I will add is if the district

18274
09:47:47,937 --> 09:47:50,806
does go with the 25% option,

18275
09:47:50,806 --> 09:47:52,641
then we must present as a

18276
09:47:52,641 --> 09:47:55,811
district. We must come, we must

18277
09:47:55,811 --> 09:47:58,130
submit a what is called a meal

18278
09:47:58,130 --> 09:47:59,848
reimbursement coverage plan

18279
09:47:59,848 --> 09:48:01,517
that really talks about, you

18280
09:48:01,517 --> 09:48:02,750
know, if we're if we don't have

18281
09:48:02,750 --> 09:48:06,350
this money as a district, we're

18282
09:48:06,789 --> 09:48:08,900
going to incur the

18283
09:48:08,900 --> 09:48:09,580
responsibility for the fund. So

18284
09:48:09,580 --> 09:48:12,580
that is why the recommendation

18285
09:48:13,629 --> 09:48:15,430
is at the 40%. And then and

18286
09:48:15,430 --> 09:48:16,398
then MADAM Chair and Doctor

18287
09:48:16,398 --> 09:48:18,500
Hepburn, I'm not sure. But

18288
09:48:18,500 --> 09:48:19,935
since our colleagues or our

18289
09:48:19,935 --> 09:48:21,169
partners, I'll say from council

18290
09:48:21,169 --> 09:48:23,205
are on the phone and they've

18291
09:48:23,205 --> 09:48:24,607
been on since 12:00, so I

18292
09:48:24,607 --> 09:48:25,775
wouldn't I would be remiss if I

18293
09:48:25,775 --> 09:48:27,542
didn't, you know, didn't ask if

18294
09:48:27,542 --> 09:48:28,611
they wanted to weigh in because

18295
09:48:28,611 --> 09:48:31,480
they've been waiting for six

18296
09:48:31,480 --> 09:48:32,714
hours. Seven hours. I'm sorry.

18297
09:48:32,714 --> 09:48:33,983
>> I'd like to weigh in. Two

18298
09:48:33,983 --> 09:48:36,383
Doctor Wanza whenever it's

18299
09:48:36,885 --> 09:48:38,254
going to be.

18300
09:48:38,254 --> 09:48:39,210
>> Oh, okay. I thought that was

18301
09:48:39,210 --> 09:48:40,189
council.

18302
09:48:40,189 --> 09:48:41,490
>> Yeah. I mean, does anyone

18303
09:48:41,490 --> 09:48:44,727
from the Council of Great City

18304
09:48:44,727 --> 09:48:46,229
Schools like to weigh in?

18305
09:48:46,229 --> 09:48:47,229
>> This is very hard. I'm the

18306
09:48:47,229 --> 09:48:48,798
executive director for the

18307
09:48:48,798 --> 09:48:49,831
Council of Great City Schools.

18308
09:48:49,831 --> 09:48:51,167
I'll let my colleagues I'm

18309
09:48:51,167 --> 09:48:52,668
joined by Willie Burroughs,

18310
09:48:52,668 --> 09:48:55,680
who's our director, our

18311
09:48:55,304 --> 09:48:57,704
director of operations services,

18312
09:49:00,276 --> 09:49:03,479
and. David Palmer, who is also

18313
09:49:03,479 --> 09:49:07,790
joining us. Just want to add

18314
09:49:07,784 --> 09:49:09,786
that any. If the district. If

18315
09:49:09,786 --> 09:49:11,721
the district chooses either of

18316
09:49:11,721 --> 09:49:13,289
the options and you'll see our

18317
09:49:13,289 --> 09:49:14,924
recommendations there. I just

18318
09:49:14,924 --> 09:49:17,527
want to make sure the board is

18319
09:49:17,527 --> 09:49:20,527
clear that both with a

18320
09:49:21,131 --> 09:49:23,332
reduction in meal costs. So if

18321
09:49:23,332 --> 09:49:26,102
you don't increase your meal

18322
09:49:26,102 --> 09:49:27,636
costs or if you add additional

18323
09:49:27,636 --> 09:49:30,360
schools that don't fully

18324
09:49:30,873 --> 09:49:32,642
qualify through c, e, p, which

18325
09:49:32,642 --> 09:49:34,110
is the 40% that they're

18326
09:49:34,110 --> 09:49:36,379
referring to, if you go with

18327
09:49:36,379 --> 09:49:38,648
the 25% option, the district

18328
09:49:38,648 --> 09:49:41,284
then is going to continue to

18329
09:49:41,284 --> 09:49:43,520
incur meal services costs that

18330
09:49:43,520 --> 09:49:44,187
you'll have to budget for

18331
09:49:44,187 --> 09:49:45,388
separately. So I just want to

18332
09:49:45,388 --> 09:49:47,890
make sure that's clear to the

18333
09:49:47,890 --> 09:49:49,489
board. Our recommendations were

18334
09:49:50,293 --> 09:49:51,328
to try to get putting in

18335
09:49:51,328 --> 09:49:53,960
several different things in

18336
09:49:53,960 --> 09:49:54,631
place to try to get the

18337
09:49:54,631 --> 09:49:57,133
district back to a place where

18338
09:49:57,133 --> 09:49:59,703
meal services was as close to

18339
09:49:59,703 --> 09:50:01,137
break even as possible. Given

18340
09:50:01,137 --> 09:50:04,137
all of the recommendations that

18341
09:50:04,374 --> 09:50:05,542
we made, Dave or Willie, do you

18342
09:50:05,542 --> 09:50:07,210
have anything that you'd like

18343
09:50:07,210 --> 09:50:08,978
to add before we turn things

18344
09:50:08,978 --> 09:50:10,379
back over? I thank you, Chair

18345
09:50:10,379 --> 09:50:11,247
Leonardi and also

18346
09:50:11,247 --> 09:50:13,216
Superintendent Heffron Heparin

18347
09:50:13,216 --> 09:50:15,786
for allowing us to provide

18348
09:50:15,786 --> 09:50:18,186
support to the district.

18349
09:50:18,621 --> 09:50:20,491
>> Nothing that for me.

18350
09:50:20,491 --> 09:50:24,910
>> Nothing for me. I think you

18351
09:50:26,163 --> 09:50:29,163
covered it well. Thank you.

18352
09:50:29,199 --> 09:50:30,333
>> All right. Thank you. And

18353
09:50:30,333 --> 09:50:31,668
DR. Zeman, before you go, I

18354
09:50:31,668 --> 09:50:32,736
think we just need some

18355
09:50:32,736 --> 09:50:34,736
clarification from Doctor

18356
09:50:36,600 --> 09:50:37,741
Hepburn. What Doctor Hepburn's

18357
09:50:37,741 --> 09:50:39,176
recommendation is because there

18358
09:50:39,176 --> 09:50:41,440
is a board member who is asking

18359
09:50:41,440 --> 09:50:42,450
for that.

18360
09:50:42,450 --> 09:50:44,450
>> Okay.

18361
09:50:44,748 --> 09:50:46,748
>> Yes, absolutely. So

18362
09:50:48,185 --> 09:50:49,719
definitely the 40%. And also

18363
09:50:49,719 --> 09:50:50,921
let me catch my bearings

18364
09:50:50,921 --> 09:50:52,823
because I want to make sure I

18365
09:50:52,823 --> 09:50:56,930
add option three. And the also

18366
09:50:56,930 --> 09:50:58,930
the 40% recommendation.

18367
09:50:58,996 --> 09:51:01,231
>> Thank you. DR. Zeman.

18368
09:51:01,231 --> 09:51:02,632
>> I agree with Doctor Hepburn.

18369
09:51:02,632 --> 09:51:03,633
Three and 40 is going to work

18370
09:51:03,633 --> 09:51:06,350
really really well for the

18371
09:51:06,350 --> 09:51:07,771
district. But I also think that

18372
09:51:07,771 --> 09:51:09,873
we need to be thoughtful about

18373
09:51:09,873 --> 09:51:11,942
whatever we can do to feed as

18374
09:51:11,942 --> 09:51:13,410
many kids. I think we need to

18375
09:51:13,410 --> 09:51:15,810
think really seriously about

18376
09:51:16,460 --> 09:51:18,849
the quality of the food. You

18377
09:51:18,849 --> 09:51:21,352
know, there's a there's a need

18378
09:51:21,352 --> 09:51:23,220
when you think about the real

18379
09:51:23,220 --> 09:51:25,220
raw issue here to feed our kids

18380
09:51:25,220 --> 09:51:26,289
so that they can learn, you

18381
09:51:26,289 --> 09:51:28,459
know, in some schools, we're

18382
09:51:28,459 --> 09:51:30,294
feeding kids three times a day

18383
09:51:30,294 --> 09:51:32,129
and in some cases, more than we

18384
09:51:32,129 --> 09:51:33,297
probably want to admit. It's

18385
09:51:33,297 --> 09:51:34,999
either the best or the only

18386
09:51:34,999 --> 09:51:37,168
food that they're getting. And

18387
09:51:37,168 --> 09:51:38,602
so I, I'm just really feel very

18388
09:51:38,602 --> 09:51:40,104
strongly that if we have to

18389
09:51:40,104 --> 09:51:43,374
find the money to make sure

18390
09:51:43,374 --> 09:51:44,108
that kids have food, that

18391
09:51:44,108 --> 09:51:45,175
that's just something we're

18392
09:51:45,175 --> 09:51:48,450
going to have to find in the

18393
09:51:48,450 --> 09:51:49,379
budget this year. The, the, the

18394
09:51:49,379 --> 09:51:51,348
moral hazard problem, you know,

18395
09:51:51,348 --> 09:51:53,717
kids who, who buy food, knowing

18396
09:51:53,717 --> 09:51:56,920
that we're going to pay it off

18397
09:51:56,920 --> 09:51:59,155
under option three, 40% would

18398
09:51:59,155 --> 09:52:01,258
equal about $300,000. And if

18399
09:52:01,258 --> 09:52:03,894
I'm right, doctor Wanza option

18400
09:52:03,894 --> 09:52:06,294
340% is already costing us 3.4

18401
09:52:07,310 --> 09:52:08,932
million or so. So with the

18402
09:52:08,932 --> 09:52:10,670
$300,000 moral hazard, it would

18403
09:52:10,670 --> 09:52:13,670
be about 3.7. Is that roughly

18404
09:52:13,938 --> 09:52:15,406
right?

18405
09:52:15,406 --> 09:52:17,141
>> Yes, yes.

18406
09:52:17,141 --> 09:52:18,843
>> DR. Zeman and. I and and

18407
09:52:18,843 --> 09:52:20,770
just my vote is always going to

18408
09:52:20,770 --> 09:52:23,214
be for whatever we have to do

18409
09:52:23,214 --> 09:52:25,783
to feed kids, make sure that

18410
09:52:25,783 --> 09:52:28,686
they, you know, are filled with

18411
09:52:28,686 --> 09:52:29,787
nutritious food that meets usda

18412
09:52:29,787 --> 09:52:30,954
standards and that they can

18413
09:52:30,954 --> 09:52:32,223
come back to class after lunch

18414
09:52:32,223 --> 09:52:33,458
and after breakfast and pay

18415
09:52:33,458 --> 09:52:35,859
attention to their classes. I

18416
09:52:35,859 --> 09:52:37,295
think it's all part of our

18417
09:52:37,295 --> 09:52:38,729
strategic goals. You know, kids

18418
09:52:38,729 --> 09:52:40,130
that don't eat are not learning

18419
09:52:40,130 --> 09:52:41,632
in the morning or in the

18420
09:52:41,632 --> 09:52:43,935
afternoon. And I think we have

18421
09:52:43,935 --> 09:52:44,969
a real opportunity with $3.7

18422
09:52:44,969 --> 09:52:46,304
million to just fulfill a

18423
09:52:46,304 --> 09:52:48,600
commitment that we have to the

18424
09:52:48,600 --> 09:52:49,173
community to make sure that

18425
09:52:49,173 --> 09:52:51,376
these kids are eating either 2

18426
09:52:51,376 --> 09:52:53,544
or 3 meals a day, five days a

18427
09:52:53,544 --> 09:52:55,679
week. So that's my vote. I know

18428
09:52:55,679 --> 09:52:57,314
it's it MAY not be the most

18429
09:52:57,314 --> 09:52:58,983
popular view of things, but if

18430
09:52:58,983 --> 09:53:01,419
we're going to do option three

18431
09:53:01,419 --> 09:53:02,887
at 40%, that's 3.3 million. If

18432
09:53:02,887 --> 09:53:04,922
we pick up the tab for people

18433
09:53:04,922 --> 09:53:07,225
that don't, you know, get money

18434
09:53:07,225 --> 09:53:08,459
put on their cards, I'm in

18435
09:53:08,459 --> 09:53:10,729
favor of that. And I know it's

18436
09:53:10,729 --> 09:53:12,263
going to cost us another

18437
09:53:12,263 --> 09:53:13,632
$300,000, but I would rather

18438
09:53:13,632 --> 09:53:15,800
pay that money and just feel

18439
09:53:15,800 --> 09:53:16,868
better that we're ensuring that

18440
09:53:16,868 --> 09:53:19,868
everybody that comes to our

18441
09:53:20,138 --> 09:53:20,438
schools gets a meal. Thank you,

18442
09:53:20,438 --> 09:53:22,438
chair.

18443
09:53:25,543 --> 09:53:27,943
>> Thank you, MISS Bulman.

18444
09:53:28,779 --> 09:53:30,779
>> Option three.

18445
09:53:31,249 --> 09:53:32,417
>> And the 40%.

18446
09:53:32,417 --> 09:53:34,417
>> 40%.

18447
09:53:35,654 --> 09:53:36,621
>> MR. Cervera. Also, the

18448
09:53:36,621 --> 09:53:38,621
superintendent's recommendation.

18449
09:53:38,923 --> 09:53:39,891
Does the doctor Wanza do you

18450
09:53:39,891 --> 09:53:41,359
have your consensus?

18451
09:53:41,359 --> 09:53:42,427
>> I do, but I just have one

18452
09:53:42,427 --> 09:53:44,328
question, MADAM Chair, I don't

18453
09:53:44,328 --> 09:53:46,831
want to belabor the time I need

18454
09:53:46,831 --> 09:53:47,432
to know on the second

18455
09:53:47,432 --> 09:53:48,833
recommendation, because that

18456
09:53:48,833 --> 09:53:49,801
will determine whether or not

18457
09:53:49,801 --> 09:53:51,803
we're bringing a board item

18458
09:53:51,803 --> 09:53:54,803
next week around meal price

18459
09:53:55,390 --> 09:53:56,740
increases of the $1 for. And

18460
09:53:56,740 --> 09:53:57,442
it's and it's only at lunch

18461
09:53:57,442 --> 09:53:59,277
because obviously all the kids

18462
09:53:59,277 --> 09:54:00,779
will continue to have free

18463
09:54:00,779 --> 09:54:02,779
breakfast.

18464
09:54:02,881 --> 09:54:05,817
>> Is there any objection to

18465
09:54:05,817 --> 09:54:06,585
increasing the meal prices?

18466
09:54:06,585 --> 09:54:08,585
>> No.

18467
09:54:09,822 --> 09:54:11,822
>> Objection one.

18468
09:54:12,724 --> 09:54:15,724
>> Anyone else? I also object

18469
09:54:19,131 --> 09:54:21,667
to raising the meal prices. MR.

18470
09:54:21,667 --> 09:54:23,502
Cervera also objects to MISS

18471
09:54:23,502 --> 09:54:24,635
Bulman.

18472
09:54:24,635 --> 09:54:26,635
>> I.

18473
09:54:27,506 --> 09:54:29,906
>> Is there an alternative

18474
09:54:30,375 --> 09:54:32,578
price range than just $1 to. I

18475
09:54:32,578 --> 09:54:33,946
guess is the question. If

18476
09:54:33,946 --> 09:54:35,480
that's. Is that what's

18477
09:54:35,480 --> 09:54:36,648
permitted by the law and that's

18478
09:54:36,648 --> 09:54:37,515
why we want to charge that. Or

18479
09:54:37,515 --> 09:54:39,384
is that so?

18480
09:54:39,384 --> 09:54:40,452
>> I think we have to remember

18481
09:54:40,452 --> 09:54:41,552
that food prices go up.

18482
09:54:41,552 --> 09:54:43,952
>> No, I know right.

18483
09:54:45,157 --> 09:54:46,557
>> And so and and that was and

18484
09:54:46,557 --> 09:54:48,727
I don't know if Doctor Hartman,

18485
09:54:48,727 --> 09:54:50,362
Doctor Hardin, the team are

18486
09:54:50,362 --> 09:54:51,596
still on on the teams call, but

18487
09:54:51,596 --> 09:54:53,398
that that was one of the

18488
09:54:53,398 --> 09:54:54,500
recommendations from our

18489
09:54:54,500 --> 09:54:55,501
partners at the Council of

18490
09:54:55,501 --> 09:54:56,969
Great City Schools when they

18491
09:54:56,969 --> 09:54:59,138
did their tabletop review of us

18492
09:54:59,138 --> 09:55:00,539
as well, because we put in the

18493
09:55:00,539 --> 09:55:01,973
presentation for one. At one

18494
09:55:01,973 --> 09:55:03,809
point, we had gone 12 years

18495
09:55:03,809 --> 09:55:05,244
without raising prices. Last

18496
09:55:05,244 --> 09:55:07,120
year, I think we went up a

18497
09:55:07,120 --> 09:55:09,982
dollar, and then this year

18498
09:55:09,982 --> 09:55:11,116
we're trying to go up one more

18499
09:55:11,116 --> 09:55:13,219
dollar. But we certainly will,

18500
09:55:13,219 --> 09:55:14,286
you know, work with the will,

18501
09:55:14,286 --> 09:55:15,788
follow the will and the

18502
09:55:15,788 --> 09:55:17,555
direction of the board. But

18503
09:55:17,555 --> 09:55:18,890
what we also got to be

18504
09:55:18,890 --> 09:55:21,127
cognizant of is we can't keep

18505
09:55:21,127 --> 09:55:23,763
the price of a meal the same

18506
09:55:23,763 --> 09:55:25,197
and expect greater quality with

18507
09:55:25,197 --> 09:55:26,165
less amount with less dollars

18508
09:55:26,165 --> 09:55:27,867
to work from. That's all. But

18509
09:55:27,867 --> 09:55:29,340
we're going to follow the will

18510
09:55:29,340 --> 09:55:30,835
of the board.

18511
09:55:30,835 --> 09:55:32,237
>> Okay. I mean, and it seems

18512
09:55:32,237 --> 09:55:33,406
like it's not that big of a

18513
09:55:33,406 --> 09:55:34,507
deal, but when you have

18514
09:55:34,507 --> 09:55:36,241
multiple kids and you're buying

18515
09:55:36,241 --> 09:55:37,676
lunch every day and over the

18516
09:55:37,676 --> 09:55:40,512
month, it does add up. So that

18517
09:55:40,512 --> 09:55:44,217
is a concern that I have. If if

18518
09:55:44,217 --> 09:55:45,184
we. So whaha Recomommeation you

18519
09:55:45,184 --> 09:55:46,318
haveveo bringng u

18520
09:55:46,318 --> 09:55:48,318
>>>>orryry.

18521
09:55:48,487 --> 09:55:50,487
>> Oh, ohh hssalalngng.

18522
09:55:50,990 --> 09:55:53,158
>> I'm sorry. Board member

18523
09:55:53,158 --> 09:55:55,161
Bowman I'm from overhead. Our

18524
09:55:55,161 --> 09:55:57,561
recommendation was to increase

18525
09:55:57,630 --> 09:55:59,265
the meal price for the reason

18526
09:55:59,265 --> 09:56:00,132
that was given. But I think

18527
09:56:00,132 --> 09:56:01,467
also it's important to note

18528
09:56:01,467 --> 09:56:04,467
that the district is already

18529
09:56:05,505 --> 09:56:06,838
well below the actual cost of

18530
09:56:06,838 --> 09:56:09,375
the meals and the cost of

18531
09:56:09,375 --> 09:56:11,177
services. And so but not

18532
09:56:11,177 --> 09:56:12,878
increasing the meal price again,

18533
09:56:12,878 --> 09:56:14,414
that is that has budgetary

18534
09:56:14,414 --> 09:56:16,215
implications. So now the

18535
09:56:16,215 --> 09:56:19,840
district is going to have to

18536
09:56:19,840 --> 09:56:21,220
cover that additional meal cost

18537
09:56:21,220 --> 09:56:22,689
for the entire for every day,

18538
09:56:22,689 --> 09:56:24,790
for the entire year, for the

18539
09:56:24,790 --> 09:56:27,790
number of students that, that

18540
09:56:30,596 --> 09:56:31,831
are paying for meals.

18541
09:56:31,831 --> 09:56:33,990
>> So, so let me share just a

18542
09:56:33,990 --> 09:56:35,268
little bit of the financial

18543
09:56:35,268 --> 09:56:38,138
aspect of it. We are required

18544
09:56:38,138 --> 09:56:40,339
to meet the paid lunch equity

18545
09:56:40,339 --> 09:56:42,942
tool, which means that every

18546
09:56:42,942 --> 09:56:44,945
meal, if it's paid, it must

18547
09:56:44,945 --> 09:56:47,514
equal the same amount of money

18548
09:56:47,514 --> 09:56:49,315
that a free meal gets. So by

18549
09:56:49,315 --> 09:56:51,517
not raising ourselves up to a

18550
09:56:51,517 --> 09:56:54,120
dollar this year as well, we

18551
09:56:54,120 --> 09:56:56,223
are under the dollar amount

18552
09:56:56,223 --> 09:56:58,358
that we should be at. So

18553
09:56:58,358 --> 09:57:00,758
currently the free lunch

18554
09:57:01,194 --> 09:57:02,996
reimbursement is for 71 and we

18555
09:57:02,996 --> 09:57:05,131
need to get ourselves to that

18556
09:57:05,131 --> 09:57:07,567
level according to the pl tool.

18557
09:57:07,567 --> 09:57:10,567
Now next year the reimbursement

18558
09:57:10,570 --> 09:57:12,339
rate should go up slightly. It

18559
09:57:12,339 --> 09:57:13,607
depends. They start in JULY. We

18560
09:57:13,607 --> 09:57:15,642
haven't got any new information

18561
09:57:15,642 --> 09:57:17,377
on that at all. But I also want

18562
09:57:17,377 --> 09:57:19,179
to share the fact that when you

18563
09:57:19,179 --> 09:57:21,381
calculate out a per meal cost,

18564
09:57:21,381 --> 09:57:23,183
we are not receiving enough

18565
09:57:23,183 --> 09:57:25,510
funding through the federal

18566
09:57:25,510 --> 09:57:28,510
dollars of reimbursement. So we

18567
09:57:30,691 --> 09:57:32,192
are short in a a lunch meal by

18568
09:57:32,192 --> 09:57:33,227
$0.84. So it doesn't seem,

18569
09:57:33,227 --> 09:57:34,795
again, like you're saying it

18570
09:57:34,795 --> 09:57:36,429
doesn't seem like a whole lot,

18571
09:57:36,429 --> 09:57:38,698
but that $0.84 times the number

18572
09:57:38,698 --> 09:57:41,168
of meals that we, that we

18573
09:57:41,168 --> 09:57:42,269
actually produce creates that

18574
09:57:42,269 --> 09:57:43,704
shortfall that we're

18575
09:57:43,704 --> 09:57:45,839
experiencing as well. So the,

18576
09:57:45,839 --> 09:57:47,307
the increase in meal prices is

18577
09:57:47,307 --> 09:57:49,143
a requirement to be looked at

18578
09:57:49,143 --> 09:57:50,911
every year. According to the

18579
09:57:50,911 --> 09:57:52,911
National School Lunch

18580
09:57:53,380 --> 09:57:56,249
application and act that we do,

18581
09:57:56,249 --> 09:57:58,170
we can always say, no, we can

18582
09:57:58,170 --> 09:58:01,288
maybe get out of it or not do

18583
09:58:01,288 --> 09:58:03,957
it, but we can talk to the the

18584
09:58:03,957 --> 09:58:05,726
National School Lunch usda and

18585
09:58:05,726 --> 09:58:07,940
see what their their take is on

18586
09:58:07,940 --> 09:58:09,963
it. We were required to bring

18587
09:58:09,963 --> 09:58:11,198
it up last year. And also the

18588
09:58:11,198 --> 09:58:12,866
adult meal prices are part of

18589
09:58:12,866 --> 09:58:14,501
the agreement that we do. And

18590
09:58:14,501 --> 09:58:16,203
they have to be brought up to

18591
09:58:16,203 --> 09:58:16,904
the same standards. I hope that

18592
09:58:16,904 --> 09:58:18,972
helps a little bit.

18593
09:58:18,972 --> 09:58:21,809
>> Yeah. No, I mean, thank you,

18594
09:58:21,809 --> 09:58:23,744
I appreciate that. So we had

18595
09:58:23,744 --> 09:58:25,446
talked about alternative ways

18596
09:58:25,446 --> 09:58:26,780
to bridge the gap to with meal

18597
09:58:26,780 --> 09:58:30,380
debt and everything else. So if

18598
09:58:30,751 --> 09:58:34,951
we, if we increase the the meal,

18599
09:58:35,189 --> 09:58:37,591
we would still be pursuing.

18600
09:58:37,591 --> 09:58:40,528
Those avenues and trying to get

18601
09:58:40,528 --> 09:58:41,594
community support. Okay.

18602
09:58:41,594 --> 09:58:43,594
>> Yes.

18603
09:58:45,165 --> 09:58:47,101
>> So I support that. If we're

18604
09:58:47,101 --> 09:58:49,436
operating at a deficit at a

18605
09:58:49,436 --> 09:58:51,672
deficit, then I don't know that

18606
09:58:51,672 --> 09:58:53,474
we have a lot of options there

18607
09:58:53,474 --> 09:58:55,309
unless we have some like a

18608
09:58:55,309 --> 09:58:57,770
guaranteed way to pay the debt

18609
09:58:57,770 --> 09:59:00,770
a different way. I'm not

18610
09:59:01,281 --> 09:59:03,681
hearing any right now.

18611
09:59:05,819 --> 09:59:07,188
>> Thank you. Anyone online?

18612
09:59:07,188 --> 09:59:08,656
>> I'm in favor of raising a

18613
09:59:08,656 --> 09:59:10,324
price, a dollar.

18614
09:59:10,324 --> 09:59:12,324
>> For you.

18615
09:59:16,230 --> 09:59:18,630
>> Increase a dollar to.

18616
09:59:18,766 --> 09:59:20,101
>> All right. Do you have your

18617
09:59:20,101 --> 09:59:21,502
direction, doctor Wanza. All

18618
09:59:21,502 --> 09:59:22,904
right. Anything else? Anyone

18619
09:59:22,904 --> 09:59:26,504
else want to say anything about

18620
09:59:26,974 --> 09:59:28,843
this? All right.

18621
09:59:28,843 --> 09:59:30,843
>> Power up. Thanks.

18622
09:59:30,978 --> 09:59:33,414
>> Do any of my colleagues have

18623
09:59:33,414 --> 09:59:35,283
any student successes or items

18624
09:59:35,283 --> 09:59:36,384
they'd like to bring to the

18625
09:59:36,384 --> 09:59:37,451
board? For the good of the

18626
09:59:37,451 --> 09:59:38,520
order?

18627
09:59:38,520 --> 09:59:39,954
>> Chair.

18628
09:59:39,954 --> 09:59:42,560
>> I have a very quick question.

18629
09:59:42,560 --> 09:59:43,290
>> MISS Thompson.

18630
09:59:43,290 --> 09:59:44,925
>> You had mentioned that you

18631
09:59:44,925 --> 09:59:47,925
were interested in bringing an

18632
09:59:48,595 --> 09:59:50,398
item to not have screen time

18633
09:59:50,398 --> 09:59:52,798
from kindergarten to second

18634
09:59:53,200 --> 09:59:54,469
grade. What do you think?

18635
09:59:54,469 --> 09:59:57,469
>> You're sorry? After a follow

18636
09:59:58,673 --> 10:00:00,108
up from staff? Yes.

18637
10:00:00,108 --> 10:00:00,942
>> Okay. I just have community

18638
10:00:00,942 --> 10:00:02,900
members that have already

18639
10:00:02,900 --> 10:00:03,100
reached out and are very

18640
10:00:03,100 --> 10:00:05,179
excited about that. So I was

18641
10:00:05,179 --> 10:00:07,449
just hoping to get a timeline,

18642
10:00:07,449 --> 10:00:08,183
but we will wait for the follow

18643
10:00:08,183 --> 10:00:09,350
up. It sounds.

18644
10:00:09,350 --> 10:00:10,618
>> Like it would probably be in

18645
10:00:10,618 --> 10:00:12,687
JULY, depending on when I get

18646
10:00:12,687 --> 10:00:14,422
the follow up.

18647
10:00:14,422 --> 10:00:16,324
>> For the item.

18648
10:00:16,324 --> 10:00:18,324
>> Yes.

18649
10:00:19,894 --> 10:00:21,663
>> Okay. All right. Thank you.

18650
10:00:21,663 --> 10:00:23,565
>> Thank you. So just to

18651
10:00:23,565 --> 10:00:25,367
clarify for everyone, we have a

18652
10:00:25,367 --> 10:00:26,434
workshop now planned for after

18653
10:00:26,434 --> 10:00:28,834
the special school board

18654
10:00:29,237 --> 10:00:31,739
meeting on the 23rd that will

18655
10:00:31,739 --> 10:00:33,241
address the capital program.

18656
10:00:33,241 --> 10:00:35,241
MR. Sullivan.

18657
10:00:35,377 --> 10:00:38,377
>> Yes, I, I misspoke before

18658
10:00:38,613 --> 10:00:40,749
about the 23rd special being a

18659
10:00:40,749 --> 10:00:42,550
lighter, although it's a

18660
10:00:42,550 --> 10:00:44,653
multiple items. I forgot the

18661
10:00:44,653 --> 10:00:46,855
gcs through the policies

18662
10:00:46,855 --> 10:00:50,920
through Neola are also going to

18663
10:00:50,920 --> 10:00:51,960
be part of that special. So

18664
10:00:51,960 --> 10:00:53,428
point being, it might be a long

18665
10:00:53,428 --> 10:00:54,962
meeting. So I don't know if the

18666
10:00:54,962 --> 10:00:56,398
board still wants us to do a

18667
10:00:56,398 --> 10:00:57,966
workshop, perhaps with the goal

18668
10:00:57,966 --> 10:01:00,602
of starting at three, or wants

18669
10:01:00,602 --> 10:01:03,471
us to find another workshop

18670
10:01:03,471 --> 10:01:04,939
date. But I believe with the

18671
10:01:04,939 --> 10:01:06,341
neola items, it could be a

18672
10:01:06,341 --> 10:01:07,942
potentially longer agenda. So I

18673
10:01:07,942 --> 10:01:08,176
just wanted to alert the board

18674
10:01:08,176 --> 10:01:10,176
of that.

18675
10:01:10,612 --> 10:01:13,449
>> Does anyone have a change of

18676
10:01:13,449 --> 10:01:16,510
heart with this disclosure from

18677
10:01:16,510 --> 10:01:18,510
MR. Sullivan?

18678
10:01:18,887 --> 10:01:20,755
>> MADAM Chair. DR. Holness

18679
10:01:20,755 --> 10:01:23,258
MADAM Chair, I suggest again

18680
10:01:23,258 --> 10:01:24,526
that we start at eight with the

18681
10:01:24,526 --> 10:01:25,661
added disclosure. I think we're

18682
10:01:25,661 --> 10:01:28,664
going to be there for quite

18683
10:01:28,664 --> 10:01:30,650
some time, and I think 8:00

18684
10:01:30,650 --> 10:01:31,534
would would help to alleviate

18685
10:01:31,534 --> 10:01:33,302
some of that problem.

18686
10:01:33,302 --> 10:01:36,302
>> Does anyone now object to

18687
10:01:36,905 --> 10:01:38,707
the 8:00 start time MR. Cervera

18688
10:01:38,707 --> 10:01:41,707
is objecting to starting at

18689
10:01:47,160 --> 10:01:48,784
8:00. Anyone else? Okay, so

18690
10:01:48,784 --> 10:01:51,287
we'll start at 8 A.M. Hearing

18691
10:01:51,287 --> 10:01:52,200
just one objection.

18692
10:01:52,200 --> 10:01:54,200
>> MADAM Chair.

18693
10:01:54,123 --> 10:01:55,624
>> Yes, DR. Holness.

18694
10:01:55,624 --> 10:01:57,459
>> I would also like to just

18695
10:01:57,459 --> 10:01:59,261
caution that for the workshop,

18696
10:01:59,261 --> 10:02:00,729
we're only including one item,

18697
10:02:00,729 --> 10:02:02,531
and there will be no added

18698
10:02:02,531 --> 10:02:04,931
items to the workshop.

18699
10:02:05,468 --> 10:02:07,468
>> That is correct.

18700
10:02:07,870 --> 10:02:09,710
>> Thank you, MADAM Chair.

18701
10:02:09,710 --> 10:02:10,106
>> So again, at the direction

18702
10:02:10,106 --> 10:02:11,207
of the superintendent, the

18703
10:02:11,207 --> 10:02:12,375
following agenda topics are

18704
10:02:12,375 --> 10:02:13,609
tentatively scheduled to be

18705
10:02:13,609 --> 10:02:16,900
addressed during the upcoming

18706
10:02:17,546 --> 10:02:19,810
workshops for JULY 21st. The

18707
10:02:19,810 --> 10:02:21,810
Advisory Committee reports

18708
10:02:21,584 --> 10:02:23,984
redefining our schools os

18709
10:02:24,453 --> 10:02:26,188
Quarterly report. Kc write

18710
10:02:26,188 --> 10:02:28,188
operations, multi-year staffing

18711
10:02:28,391 --> 10:02:29,825
alignment plan, erp

18712
10:02:29,825 --> 10:02:31,627
transformation Project and

18713
10:02:31,627 --> 10:02:32,561
Rural development, ai,

18714
10:02:32,561 --> 10:02:34,497
cybersecurity and acceptable

18715
10:02:34,497 --> 10:02:36,265
use and other relevant policies.

18716
10:02:36,265 --> 10:02:38,434
Doctor Hepburn, is there any

18717
10:02:38,434 --> 10:02:42,634
thing that we can take off that

18718
10:02:44,574 --> 10:02:46,574
agenda?

18719
10:02:47,409 --> 10:02:49,277
>> Yes, possibly the multi-year

18720
10:02:49,277 --> 10:02:51,677
staffing plan because that's

18721
10:02:52,548 --> 10:02:54,684
about the staffing realignment

18722
10:02:54,684 --> 10:02:56,850
that will ultimately be in

18723
10:02:56,850 --> 10:02:56,886
implemented in the spring. So

18724
10:02:56,886 --> 10:03:00,486
that can be discussed at a

18725
10:03:01,190 --> 10:03:01,824
later workshop in AUGUST. Erp

18726
10:03:01,824 --> 10:03:03,824
transformation. I'll get

18727
10:03:07,329 --> 10:03:10,329
guidance from has to go.

18728
10:03:12,368 --> 10:03:14,437
Whereas I think. The erp

18729
10:03:14,437 --> 10:03:15,505
transformation that has to go

18730
10:03:15,505 --> 10:03:16,606
right. Because we have time

18731
10:03:16,606 --> 10:03:18,440
frame. Yep. So that one has to

18732
10:03:18,440 --> 10:03:19,475
go. So the one we can

18733
10:03:19,475 --> 10:03:20,443
definitely shift to AUGUST is

18734
10:03:20,443 --> 10:03:21,100
the multi-year staffing

18735
10:03:21,100 --> 10:03:22,512
alignment for sure.

18736
10:03:22,512 --> 10:03:25,512
>> All right. So the AUGUST

18737
10:03:26,383 --> 10:03:28,517
11th board workshop is board

18738
10:03:28,517 --> 10:03:30,517
direct report evaluations,

18739
10:03:31,387 --> 10:03:33,189
committee reports and a rural

18740
10:03:33,189 --> 10:03:35,189
development policy review

18741
10:03:37,930 --> 10:03:38,628
through Neola. And then I guess

18742
10:03:38,628 --> 10:03:40,628
the multi-year staffing

18743
10:03:42,899 --> 10:03:44,367
alignment plan. Or is there any

18744
10:03:44,367 --> 10:03:45,969
input? MR. Sullivan?

18745
10:03:45,969 --> 10:03:47,971
>> I was just going to say the.

18746
10:03:47,971 --> 10:03:49,873
Kc right. Site operations that

18747
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that's already going to be in

18748
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the redefining deck. So that's

18749
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one item that's not going to be

18750
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a standalone. So we can take

18751
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that out.

18752
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>> Okay. So that's going to be

18753
10:04:01,250 --> 10:04:03,650
combined into the redefining.

18754
10:04:04,520 --> 10:04:07,123
Yes. Okay. All right. Any other

18755
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input or anything for the good

18756
10:04:10,994 --> 10:04:12,796
of the order. All right.

18757
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Without objection the scheduled

18758
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order of business for the

18759
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school board workshop or the

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school board of Broward County,

18761
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Florida, has been completed,

18762
10:04:22,105 --> 10:04:25,705
has been completed. I will now

18763
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adjourn this workshop.