[2:08] 810. We'll go ahead and call the meeting
to order.
[2:12] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[2:17] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:23] justice for all. Father, we come to you
again to do the business of the people
[2:27] of Brown County. Father, give us a
measure of your wisdom so that we can
[2:31] make good decisions that benefit the
most people possible. Bring you over the
[2:36] in Jesus name. Amen.
Uh good morning everybody. Welcome to
[2:41] the meeting. Um
we'll go ahead and start with county
[2:45] personnel or public comment. Is there
any like to come up? Come on up.
[2:50] » I'm gonna turn my
>> Sure. Um Ian Sheets resident. Uh a few
[2:55] weeks ago I approached you guys about a
um request to provide the assessment by
[3:04] evaluation by property class to all the
different taxing entities uh in the in
[3:09] the county so that the different taxing
entities can make more informed
[3:13] decisions about their mil levies and so
forth. Um this I know from personal
[3:18] experience I'm not I'm coming as a
resident not as beha on behalf of the
[3:21] school board but as a member of the
school board this is something that has
[3:25] been requested from the appraisers's
office uh for multiple years it's been
[3:29] provided with for a fee. Um in my
opinion it is something that in the name
[3:36] of transparency and being informed as a
voting member of a taxing entity uh and
[3:43] being accountable to the public. I think
it would be great if the county just set
[3:47] a precedent that this is provided to the
various taxing entities because all of
[3:51] the valuation comes through obviously
the Brown County Appraisers office. Um
[3:55] after I last spoke with you, we
discussed it in the meeting. Uh Levi
[4:00] Thompson, the board clerk, had then um
reached out to Markham's office and he
[4:05] wanted $50 in order to do this. Now,
obviously the school can afford to pay
[4:11] $50 as I would think any taxing entity
would do it. However, um I think that it
[4:17] is first of all something that if it's
only $50, I'm assuming it's probably
[4:21] about an hour hours work for in our case
the template should be built and for all
[4:26] of these entities once the templates
built it's just a matter of printing it
[4:30] with the updated information. Um, what I
would ask is while we're willing to do
[4:35] it, if it's that's what it takes, that
the county commission set a precedent
[4:39] that this is just something that is
provided to the city of Horton, city of
[4:43] Haywa, the two school districts, the
cemetery districts, whoever they are,
[4:47] whoever is responsible for setting mill
levies um so that those organizations,
[4:53] those bodies can make the most informed
decisions about the impact that it's
[4:57] going to have on the taxpayer. So, uh, I
wasn't planning on coming this morning,
[5:01] but I looked at the calendar. We're
having a budget meeting next Monday, and
[5:05] I thought in order to give time, uh, to
put the wheels in motion, uh, to get
[5:10] that printed out, I thought I would just
stop up here. So, so I'm a little more
[5:14] cash than I would normally be, but
anyway, that's the uh, that is the long
[5:18] and the short of it. So, I would ask for
your consideration.
[5:20] » So, you're talking about the Excel
spreadsheet that has the percent change.
[5:24] » Uh, yes. Yes. Yes.
>> By by property class. So there's the
[5:29] residential, there's the A, there's the
commercial, etc. You showed me the
[5:33] county's version of that last time uh
and and said this is something that you
[5:38] guys always have. Um obviously the
>> the uh the scope of it is slightly
[5:44] different between the different
organizations. So the USD415 has a
[5:48] different um taxing body. Yeah. Then
then does this then does USD430 for
[5:55] example versus the city of Iwa. So these
would be bespoke to the different
[6:01] districts.
>> So they're going to be customized to
[6:04] » correct.
>> Correct. In order to be relevant. Yeah.
[6:07] » Customized
>> or the most precise I guess.
[6:10] » But like you're saying once the
template's built then it's just imported
[6:13] each time
>> I would think. So yeah, let's call
[6:16] » Y. So for example, like the county is
very similar to the school district and
[6:20] it's got a good portion of residential,
it's got a good portion of a it's got
[6:23] all the commercial. Uh the city of
Haywapa would be very different because
[6:27] there's not agricultural property,
right? And so the the well
[6:31] » there could be there could be a a little
bit but not within the not within the
[6:36] city is going to be mostly residential
and and commercial property. So the
[6:40] balance and how that affects what that
net increase or decrease or so forth is
[6:44] is going to be different. And that's why
it's important to have ones that are
[6:48] actually precisely designed to match
what that um taxing constituency I'm
[6:54] failing to get the word if that makes
sense.
[6:56] » Taxing body.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[6:58] » School cities and that's need to go.
Well, I think that there's I would say
[7:03] anybody who sets a mill levy. Yeah.
>> Uh and the only other one I can think of
[7:07] is this the townships.
>> Um and then there's cemetery board,
[7:14] » but that doesn't mean everybody's going
to request it.
[7:16] » No. No.
>> They haven't been. So,
[7:18] » no. Now, I would say that that you know,
you if you started with the big ones,
[7:22] granted because we've requested it. I
don't think the city of high office has
[7:26] ever requested one. I don't have no idea
about South Carolina. Um, if you started
[7:31] there, I mean, we're going to request it
today regardless of whether there's a
[7:34] $50 fee or not, but uh, once those
templates are built, you could continue
[7:39] to add to the smaller and smaller ones
like the as time would allow. I would I
[7:44] would like to think that over the course
between this year's budget season and
[7:48] next year's budget season, probably all
of those could be created, but if you
[7:52] got the major the major taxing bodies,
that would probably be a great start. So
[7:58] this is that that's it. Um uh I think
from from our end as far as the group
[8:03] that I'm associated with, they'll make
the request regardless. Um but it's just
[8:07] I think would be good government in
order to provide this to to the
[8:11] different groups as just a matter of
precedent. Okay.
[8:15] » All right. Thank you very much, guys.
Thanks. Ian
[8:20] public or county personnel comment?
>> Yes.
[8:22] » All right. Come on.
I was at the shop this morning and uh
[8:30] the road superintendent stopped by. Uh
Vicki, do you recall the question?
[8:36] Vicki, the conversation we had about
action had to have had his test done by
[8:41] a certain date
and you told me that it couldn't be done
[8:45] that way because it wasn't writing.
the phone.
[8:52] » So Jerry gave me a referral for that. He
wrote me up and he also wrote me up for
[8:58] calling that call. We got to go into
session.
[9:03] » Good. So how much time you need?
>> Five.
[9:07] » Five.
>> Sure. Okay.
[9:09] » Okay. I'll make a motion we go in
executive session with the commissioners
[9:13] John Salen Road forman John Sen and
county clerk to discuss non-elected
[9:18] personnel and duties performance.
>> Yeah. Five minutes.
[9:23] » Is there a second?
>> I'll second it.
[9:24] » Move and [clears throat] seconded. All
in favor say I.
[9:26] » I.
>> I. Okay. Motion carried. 5 minutes.
[14:49] Okay, we're [clears throat] out of
executive session. Back into regular. No
[14:53] binding action taken. However, I will
call for an executive session with the
[14:56] same people for the same reason for five
more minutes. Is there a second? I'll
[15:00] second. Okay, move and seconded. All in
favor say I. I. I. Okay. Motion carried.
[15:05] Five more minutes. 8:29.
[20:25] All
[20:28] right. Okay.
>> All right. We're back in regular session
[20:32] out of executive. No binding action
taken.
[20:35] » All right. Thank you for coming in.
>> Okay.
[20:41] Back on schedule. The only thing we had
on here was minutes. Uh things change.
[20:45] Um let's just look at item number one
just for sake of completion. And it's
[20:50] the minutes from July 31st meeting. Are
there additions, corrections, or
[20:55] comments to the minutes as presented?
[21:04] » I didn't have any questions.
[21:08] » I don't either. Bill, did you have
anything?
[21:10] » Yeah, we talked about that too at the
country club
[21:16] around here something 30 about 30 foot
tube or something in it.
[21:20] » Oh, it should Yeah, should be two 24 by
30. So, so I went down the this Can I
[21:25] get off this a little bit? What about
the country code or what you want to
[21:28] say? What the minutes?
>> Um, is it the minutes? You see a problem
[21:33] there,
>> right? That's the only thing I saw on
[21:35] the minutes.
>> Yeah, let's go ahead and
[21:38] » Okay.
>> It should be uh two 24 by 30s because
[21:43] it's a 60 foot.
[21:49] » Does that say anything else you saw in
the minutes?
[21:52] » Okay. So, if there's no other
corrections or comments, is there a
[21:55] motion to approve the minutes as
amended?
[22:00] I'll move we or approve the minutes as
amended. Is there a second?
[22:05] » Second.
>> Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Any
[22:07] discussion? Not. All in favor say I.
>> I. I.
[22:10] » Okay. Motion carry amends are approved.
Yeah.
[22:12] » So, I was just drove down by the country
club and [clears throat]
[22:18] I'm not sure no matter what size of the
tube you put in there and else you do
[22:22] something. I mean, looks like a rock
just runs down the driveway and dumps
[22:26] right in in front of a tube. So, it's
always going to do that. And whether
[22:30] it's an 18 inch tube or a 20, eventually
it's going to fill back up in there and
[22:36] say do something else
>> possibly, Bill. But, um, Tammy called
[22:39] the
ACS office to have them look at the the
[22:43] drainage. And so by going with the 24
inch tube, it's going to drain better
[22:47] than it ever has.
>> Before if that makes sense. The tube
[22:50] there is undersized.
>> Okay. But it goes downhill and it
[22:55] flattens out
>> along the road. It's all flat. So
[22:58] » are you talking about the water that
comes out of the country club?
[23:00] » Yeah.
>> Towards the ditch, towards the county
[23:02] ditch
>> and comes in on the south side.
[23:05] [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
[23:06] » They went on it.
>> Correct. So it come down and then then
[23:08] it uses the tube to head
>> right north.
[23:11] » So it's coming down at a fast speed and
all that stuff down there, but then it's
[23:15] flat going along the road. So there's no
speed in the water going along there to
[23:19] force it on through.
>> So the proper way to do that would be to
[23:23] on we can't tell them what to do, but I
also know that the the person out there
[23:27] doing their maintenance is willing to
come up with some ideas and that's what
[23:30] they've been doing. So because of that,
the proper thing to do would be create a
[23:34] soil on the driveway that would cause
the water to go to the north side of the
[23:38] tube and not go through the tube without
any kind of a speed. Basically you're
[23:42] saying,
>> right?
[23:43] » And and if that tube is truly level,
yes,
[23:47] » if it's if it's got grade to it, it
will, but they're looking at that.
[23:51] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[23:51] » So So there's there's multiple problems
out there,
[23:54] » right?
>> But but number one, the existing tube is
[23:57] is und sized for the number of acres it
drains.
[24:00] » Okay. So anyway,
>> I I understand what you're saying.
[24:03] » Okay. Just so
>> the idea, and I appreciate you doing
[24:07] that, the idea is on these is not to
just replace stuff, but to actually look
[24:10] at what causes the problem and see if we
can come up with a solution so our guys
[24:15] don't always have to go out there and
try to keep tubes unplugged, then right
[24:20] be better.
>> In my opinion, if it's doesn't don't
[24:23] change upstream, it's going to just keep
doing that.
[24:25] » Right. I understand. But I didn't really
I just happened to drive out there and I
[24:30] thought well I look at it while I'm
going by and I didn't question what the
[24:36] plan was.
>> You can do that.
[24:39] Nobody's going to question you.
>> I appreciate that you do do that though.
[24:44] I know.
>> So
[24:46] » that's just my input to
>> Right.
[24:49] » Are you in contact with people out
there?
[24:51] » I will be. I we talked about this at
Friday's meeting. Okay. Right.
[24:56] » And so I haven't contacted them over the
weekend. I didn't think it needed to be
[25:01] Saturday or something. So I will contact
them this week.
[25:04] » Yeah.
>> I thought probably hadn't. So I can put
[25:08] my two cents in.
>> We appreciate.
[25:12] » Hi.
>> The fans brothers just calling me. He
[25:16] wanted to know if we could store
160 cubic yards of ple
[25:23] at our district one location
or I want the location for their project
[25:30] that they have here in my book.
>> Are they are they the ones doing the
[25:34] chip and seal for the city on Oregon
Street?
[25:37] » Yes.
>> Okay. So, this is good because you have
[25:42] John here that that would affect most
>> and that's why I asked you. Okay.
[25:47] » He
Adam said it would be about five truck.
[25:55] Yeah.
[25:58] » So we're are we talking like end dumps
or semi trucks or what are we talking?
[26:09] » Okay.
>> John, does that affect you in a in a
[26:12] negative fashion? Does it does it hurt
your operation? No, scrape scrape ground
[26:19] clean so they can put that down
>> because that lot's kind of a it's almost
[26:24] like a a 3/4 rock crushed rock. It's
like clean gravel in that lot. Correct.
[26:30] » Is that the other lot or the lot using a
lot
[26:40] » and that would be this month.
Well, I mean, unless you have a reason
[26:47] you don't want to, I think it's great to
let contractors work with us because we
[26:51] may need them in the future to do
something.
[26:56] » Yeah.
[26:59] » No, it's fine with me.
[clears throat]
[27:03] » All right.
>> All right. Don't leave me. I got a
[27:06] question for you.
>> What's your question for? So on Friday
[27:10] after I left here, I got a call and
there said there was a tree down on
[27:14] Acorn Road north of 170th. So I think
somebody called evidently maybe called a
[27:22] shop in Fairview and Jerry was over
there, but they didn't check answering
[27:26] machine. So maybe the answering machine
needs to be changed. So it says to call
[27:31] your number or some other number.
What?
[27:41] The call would be forwarded to another
phone.
[27:44] » Okay. Something something needs to be
done
[27:49] cuz that tree was there I said at 4:30
in the morning when we went to work. So
[27:53] it was there sitting there all day
halfway across the road. So we need to
[27:58] better communications there somehow.
[28:03] » What would you recommend Tammy?
[28:07] things that have
[28:11] that be.
>> Who would do that?
[28:18] » When you when you say us, you nick. Yes.
Okay. Do you mind doing that?
[28:25] call.
[28:31] » I was going to say, is it a is it one of
the same phones like right here where
[28:35] you can go into and enter a message or
>> I think
[28:49] maybe
[28:54] So, so would it be possible if Bill met
you over there
[29:00] » because you have a key to the office to
get in there? Obviously,
[29:02] » with me, would
>> Okay.
[29:06] » The first office has
>> Okay. So, could Bill meet somebody over
[29:10] there at a certain time? And if you go
over there, obviously grab a county
[29:13] vehicle and run over there.
[29:18] » I I don't know.
>> Okay. know that I need
[29:20] » as long as you know where it's at and
how to get in. I'm just
[29:22] » Yeah,
>> I I thought maybe he just change a
[29:27] message on there to
>> to call this number.
[29:29] » Yeah, I still have
>> Well, you're right. You'd have somebody
[29:32] to do that, but
>> pretty simple.
[29:35] » Fair enough. So, you you'll do it then
and then if there's any problems, you'll
[29:39] let us know.
>> Appreciate that.
[29:43] » Thank you.
>> Okay. Anything else on your list?
[29:47] Um,
not this one.
[29:53] » Okay. So, you want to present that? Have
you seen this Mickey?
[29:56] » No. No. I It's just another Bible
reading on square deal
[30:03] signed it
the third Thursday of no third Saturday
[30:08] of the month.
Okay.
[30:12] third time they went from 11:00 a.m. to
1 p.m.
[30:17] » Okay, this is just to reread what he
said. It's it's Is it a continuation of
[30:22] what they've already been doing?
>> So, they did it for two weeks or
[30:26] something. Then they decided they didn't
we did it every week was enough.
[30:29] » Okay. So, we have a property use request
of the courthouse yard. They don't want
[30:36] to go inside.
>> No, they don't want to go inside.
[30:37] » Okay. for Bible reading on the square
for the third Saturday of the month
[30:41] 11:00 a.m. to 100 p.m. And this is for
the August 15th, September 19th, October
[30:48] 17th, 20 which finishes the year
basically December 19th. So that's what
[30:54] we have here. Is there any questions or
comments on this?
[31:00] Looks like it's filled out completely.
Does someone want to make a motion to
[31:04] » I move we approve the request for bother
reading on.
[31:08] » Okay. Is there a second?
>> Seconded. Okay. It's been moved and
[31:11] seconded. Is there any discussion? If
not, all in favor say I.
[31:14] » I.
>> I. I.
[31:15] » Okay. Motion carried
[31:20] 26.
[31:23] Okay. Any other business?
[31:30] » I did. Okay.
>> I did not watch the video. I will say
[31:34] that, but I read through everything.
[31:40] » Um,
I am, but before we do that, Bill, or do
[31:45] you guys have any comment on it or can
you
[31:49] » are you familiar with this organization?
>> Yes.
[31:51] » Okay. That's why I was hoping you'd just
kind of give me a little background. So,
[31:57] so what they said they do, they kind of
look into what the federal government do
[32:03] or the state government and seeing
what's going to affect [clears throat]
[32:07] taxpayers or the land use part of it.
And uh so we joined a couple years ago
[32:16] in the middle of the year and Lucas and
I made the funds for it.
[32:21] » Okay. And so this this year they just
let us go on another year. I think we
[32:28] probably joined in the middle of the
year so we year without any more cost.
[32:34] But I think what she said I think it'd
be good if we could put what that video
[32:39] was so people are watching could see it.
But I don't know how you do that.
[32:47] » Let's say
conflict of interest.
[32:50] » Okay.
>> Okay. That's fair. Anyway, I think it
[32:53] shows that what they're doing and it's
like it said trying to increase
[33:00] our rights.
>> Do you have a copy of that ballot?
[33:04] » It's on our
>> No, I haven't down that far. I'm sorry.
[33:09] I just remembered the big copy.
>> Is it This is the same thing.
[33:13] » Yeah, it's the same thing.
[33:17] So, so the reason I was asking is I
trust your opinion on I mean you're
[33:21] familiar with this organization and you
believe you trust this organization,
[33:24] » right?
>> Yeah. So in the reason we got involved
[33:27] with them had a lot to do with that
corridor the NR
[33:32] what was the transmission line corridor
the five mile
[33:35] » the grain belt
>> grain belt
[33:36] » or the one that was going to be five
miles I forget the acronym now and but
[33:40] they've done some work on on
oh like the lesser prairie chicken
[33:45] things like that in western Kansas that
that makes a pretty good sense
[33:49] » most of the counties are out more in the
west
[33:51] » right
>> yeah so I mean after I went through it I
[33:54] I saw no problem in voting to allow them
to excuse me to participate,
[34:00] » right? Because it would was there a
cost?
[34:03] » No,
>> there's no cost involved with it.
[34:06] » So, what I saw when I read through this,
too, is I mean, my personal feeling on
[34:09] this, but I would not be for the
government being able to reclassify and
[34:14] and doing anything that would give a
land owner less u control of his land.
[34:20] And and the way I I see this is if it
was the pass, if the government was to
[34:24] do this, they would have the it would
have more overreaching power.
[34:28] » Am I saying that correct? I mean, by
reclassifying animals that are from
[34:33] endangered, you
>> that's
[34:36] » it's very similar to when they they uh
what's about a navigable body of water.
[34:40] Correct. When we went through that
correct at the And so this is very
[34:44] similar
>> which really affects any land owner that
[34:46] has any kind of creek running through it
problem. So whenever the an agency of
[34:52] the federal government tries to increase
their powers,
[34:56] » yes,
>> that's what we're
[34:57] » Okay. So as a member of KNRC, Brown
County, is do we do we have enough
[35:02] information to vote on this ballot so we
can send it off?
[35:05] » So the the question, should the Kansas
KN&RC be authorized to participate uh in
[35:10] federal litigation defending the repeal
of the US Fish and Wildlife Services
[35:14] Regulatory Definition of harm under the
Endangered Species Act? And yes, we
[35:19] authorize them or no, we do not. How do
you vote on that?
[35:22] » I vote yes.
>> I vote yes. I vote yes, too. So, we'll
[35:26] just check that box.
>> Okay. Do we have to make a motion?
[35:34] » No.
[35:38] » Okay. Okay. Okay. On question number
two, should KN&RC be authorized to
[35:42] participate in litigation defending the
repeal of US Fish and Wildlife Services
[35:47] blanket section 4D rule? How do you
vote?
[35:51] » Yes or no?
>> Yes.
[35:52] » Yes.
>> I would vote yes. Okay. So, yes. Um, the
[35:57] date of vote is 8326.
[36:01] [clears throat] And if anybody wanted to
look in this, there was a reason they
[36:03] broke it into two votes. If you read
through their
[36:09] Okay. Okay. Then I would make a motion
to submit this ballot
[36:15] um to KN&RC
so that they can
[36:19] count it. Is there a second? I'll second
it. It's been moved and seconded. Is
[36:23] there any discussion? If not, all in
favor say I.
[36:26] » I. I. I. Motion carried.
[36:31] » Okay. Is there any other business to
come before the commission?
[36:41] Okay. Five minutes uh executive session.
I'll make a motion for a fiveminut
[36:45] executive session. My elect personnel
performance with three commissioners in
[36:49] the county. Uh is there a second?
>> Second.
[36:54] » It's been moved and seconded. Any
discussion? If not, all in favor say I.
[36:57] I. I. Okay. Motion carried. 5 minutes
8:49.
[42:26] five. Okay, we're out of executive
session back into regular. No binding
[42:29] action taken. However, I will again call
for uh another executive session for
[42:34] five minutes with the same people for
the same region. Is there a second?
[42:39] » Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Not.
All in favor say I.
[42:42] » I. A motion carried. Five more minutes.
8:50.
[48:06] That's on the list. All right. All
right. We are out of executive session.
[48:10] Back into regular. No binding action
taken. Is there any other issues to come
[48:14] before the commission?
>> This is election week.
[48:19] » Tomorrow is the big day.
>> Bill, can I just say one more thing
[48:23] about that?
>> One more thing. tree. So at 4:30, I went
[48:26] over there to see what I called Jerry
and he said it'd be good if I could go
[48:30] see because if it was just a little bit
it would, you know, I could go clean
[48:34] that up myself. I got over there and the
knee houses that live close there,
[48:38] they're out there working on it and so I
helped them a little bit and got it
[48:42] cleaned up. So they the citizens were
doing a good job.
[48:46] » So a local family nih
>> n how you say it?
[48:50] » Kneas I think.
>> Okay. All right. might be needing to go
[48:54] back. He just lives around the corner
there. So,
[48:55] » was this 4:30 p.m. or AM?
>> He said he went to work at 4:30 a.m.
[49:02] » Okay.
>> And it was like 4 after 4:30 p.m. when
[49:05] we were cleaning up.
>> Okay. When you went by,
[49:07] » right?
>> Okay. I just want to know if I could
[49:09] call you at 4:30 a.m. and have you look
at stuff.
[49:12] » 4:30.
>> It was after the meeting. That was
[49:17] » All right. I think we checked every box
on our list today. So, is there any more
[49:21] business?
[49:23] If not, I guess um our next meeting is
Monday morning. Next Monday morning at
[49:28] 8:10 Canvas about is that right? Okay.
And it'll be a regular business meeting
[49:34] with a work session next Thursday.
Nothing else this week for us.
[49:39] That's what my calendar says. So, I'm
I'm going with that. So, if if we're
[49:42] good, is there a motion to adjourn our
meeting?
[49:46] » I'll make a motion to adjurnn the
meeting. Second.
[49:48] » Okay. Moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor say I.
[49:52] » I.
>> I.
[49:54] » Okay. 857.