[0:13] [laughter] [0:23] [clears throat] >> Good evening. Welcome to the Charter [0:26] Township of Brownstown Township Board Meeting for July 20th, 2026. Please [0:32] stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:36] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [0:41] and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with [0:47] liberty and justice for all. >> This was going to be earlier. [0:52] Will the clerk please call the roll? Supervisor Brough? [0:57] » Here. >> Clerk Printer? Here. [1:00] Treasurer Ebersole? >> Here. [1:02] » Trustee Allen is excused. Trustee Chapman? [1:05] » Here. >> Trustee Jones? [1:07] » Here. >> Trustee Killian? [1:08] » Here. [1:11] » Also in front of you is the regular board meeting minutes from July 6th, [1:15] 2026. May I have a motion? [1:19] » Motion to approve the regular board meeting from July 6th, 2026. [1:23] » Support. >> Motion by Chapman, supported by Jones. [1:27] Any discussion? [1:31] All those in favor signify by saying aye. [1:33] » Aye. >> [clears throat] [1:34] » Opposed? Passes with six votes. [1:40] Also is the agenda approval for tonight. May I have a motion to accept? [1:45] » Motion to approve the agenda tonight. >> Support. [clears throat] [1:49] » Any discussion? [1:52] All those in favor signify by saying aye. [1:54] » Aye. >> Opposed? [1:56] Motion carried, 6-0. Um, first we have a present- [2:02] Circuit Court of Michigan. If you'd like to come up to the phone, let me [2:06] apologize um, introduce myself so I don't know [2:09] your name. >> [clears throat] [2:10] » Okay. Good evening, everyone. I am Judge Shalina Anderson and my [2:16] apology for having my back to all of you, [2:20] but I am here to give a brief presentation. [2:27] I sit on the 3rd Circuit Court in the Criminal Division, [2:31] uh, down in the Criminal Justice Center. And the reason why I am here is just to, [2:38] let you all know that the Circuit Court, um, is available to the community. Um, [2:44] we, uh, want to be involved in the [2:47] community. We want to know, we want you all to know, [2:51] what we can provide, for your communities. And so, we have been going [2:55] out to all of the communities within Wayne County, to their, uh, Council [3:00] meetings, Trustee meetings, just giving a 10-minute presentation about our [3:05] court. [3:08] We have several events that we participate in, that we celebrate [3:13] Adoption Day, Reunification Day, uh, New Lawyer Swearing In, and Law Day, [3:20] and other activities that we are involved in, with respect to the [3:23] community. And we've been receiving a lot of [3:27] feedback from our jurors, um, that have received summons. And we [3:33] are in a new facility. Uh, prior to, we were at the Frank Murphy Hall of [3:37] Justice, in terms of the Criminal Division. We've since moved to the [3:41] Criminal Justice Center, which sits on Russell, in the City of Detroit, and [3:46] it's a little bit off of I-75 and Warren Avenue. And there, there's [3:52] more space, there's uh more technology uh that the jurors can take advantage of [3:58] and they feel more comfortable in that space. That's been the feedback that we [4:02] have received. Um additionally, we um have [4:06] um worked out services for the jurors. And [4:10] so, if they feel like they need uh mental health services or counseling or [4:16] anything of that nature because they have sat on a jury that maybe [4:20] um was a lot for them to handle mentally, then we do offer mental health [4:24] services for them. And that's something that is new that we haven't always [4:28] had. [4:31] So, the Third Judicial Circuit Court is our trial court in Wayne County, and it [4:37] sits above the District Court, the Probate Court, and the Municipal Courts. [4:43] Um decisions from any of our Third Circuit Courts can be appealed to the [4:47] Michigan Court of Appeals, and then ultimately to the Michigan Supreme [4:52] Court. [4:56] Of course, there have been celebrations going on throughout the year um to [5:01] celebrate uh the 250th birthday of the United States, and the court has also [5:07] taken part in celebrations and continued throughout the year to um engage in [5:13] celebrations that um celebrate the unique differences from [5:18] within Wayne County. Our mission is to serve the community by [5:24] providing accessible and equal justice for all. And our vision is to be an [5:28] exemplary and innovative court leading with integrity and providing justice and [5:33] public service. We recently had a um survey and questionnaire that we had [5:41] out. So, anyone who came to our courtrooms or within our buildings, or [5:45] even if you had a Zoom hearing, you were able to click on the QR code and give [5:52] your feedback about what your experience is with the 3rd Circuit Court and the [5:57] leadership for the 3rd Circuit Court. They're interested in hearing from the [6:00] community and what that feedback is. At the 3rd Circuit Court, we have [6:05] approximately 60 judges. We have more than 25 referees. Those [6:11] referees are usually found in the family division that would make some decisions [6:18] so that the docket can move along and everything doesn't have to necessarily [6:22] go through a judge. We have more than 500 total employees and our normal [6:28] business hours run from 8:30 to 4:30 Monday through Friday. [6:34] There are some judges that maybe start a little earlier, some that start a little [6:38] later. For me, I am a judge that starts at 9:00. [6:44] We do have four locations. We have the Coleman A. Young Building, which we [6:48] refer to as the K-Mac Building. And in that building, we deal with our civil [6:52] matters, our family matters, domestic matters. We have the Lincoln Hall of [6:58] Justice, which also sits off of I-75 in Warren, and that deals with the juvenile [7:04] matters. And then, of course, I've already [7:07] mentioned the Criminal Justice Center, which deals with all of our criminal [7:11] felony matters after they've been bound over from our local district court. And [7:16] then, we have the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice, which is where most of our [7:20] friend of the court matters are handled. [7:24] The Wayne County Circuit Court is funded, a portion of that funding comes [7:29] from Wayne County, and the other portion of that funding comes from the state of [7:33] Michigan. We work in conjunction with the Wayne County Sheriff's Office. That [7:38] is the office that provides uh security for the courtroom [7:44] as well as it provides a supervision for the Wayne County Jail. We also work in [7:50] conjunction with the Wayne County Clerk's Office and of course the Clerk's [7:54] Office is the keeper of all of the records for Wayne County. [7:59] When considering all of the divisions that the Third Circuit Court is [8:02] responsible for, again, there is the civil, criminal, family, domestic, and [8:07] family juvenile units. The civil unit um involves any type of [8:12] non-monetary damages that are above 25,000, election disputes, property [8:17] disputes, contracts, um things of that nature. [8:21] Of course, as I said, the criminal division we deal with adult felonies, [8:26] um any criminal appeals from District Court, those parties that may not have [8:30] been satisfied at the local level can then appeal to the Circuit Court and we [8:35] essentially serve as the court of appeals for the District Court. [8:39] And we also deal with search warrants, so there is always a emergency judge [8:45] that is on call 24/7 and so if there is a situation where a search warrant needs [8:52] to be executed um to search within a home or an arrest warrant or things of [8:58] that nature, those can always um be signed. [9:01] Uh there's also someone that is always on call to deal with personal protection [9:06] orders and also um the new orders where if you feel like there is an individual [9:13] who has a mental health issue who maybe perhaps should not be [9:18] um in possession of weapons, there is a method for which you can contact an [9:22] emergency judge to have um order signed so that those weapons can [9:28] be taken away from those who may be suffering from a mental health crisis. [9:33] We also have the family domestic division which again um deals with [9:38] divorce, child support, custody, parenting time, the PPOs, and the ERPOs [9:43] that I just mentioned, um, and friend of the court. [9:47] And we also have the family juvenile division, which of course deals with all [9:51] of our juvenile delinquency matters for those individuals who are under the age [9:55] of 18, uh, those vulnerable individuals who may [9:59] be suffering from neglect and abuse. Those cases are heard there. Adoption, [10:04] guardianship, and truancy matters when we have, um, students who may not be [10:09] necessarily attending school the way they should be. [10:15] The Third Circuit Court also wants you, um, to know that there are free legal [10:20] resources that are available within Wayne County. And so, if you come across [10:25] people within your community that are in need of any type of consultation, that [10:30] they can reach out to the Detroit Legal Services Clinic, the Lakeshore Legal [10:34] Aid, the William Booth Legal Aid Clinic, and the Michigan Legal Help. And that [10:39] contact information is listed, um, should you come into contact with [10:43] someone who may be in need of free legal resources. [10:49] I previously indicated that the Third Circuit Court is the busiest court in [10:53] Michigan. And just looking at our 2025 statistics, there have been a total of [10:58] 56,742 cases that were filed in 2025. And [11:04] actually in 2026, there have been an uptick in the cases that have been [11:09] filed. [11:12] » [clears throat] >> Certainly, as I indicated previously, [11:15] the Third Circuit Court is looking for any feedback, uh, that any of the our [11:20] community members and partners may have. There is an email address that is [11:25] specifically designed to receive those communications and feedback, and that is [11:30] communications, plural at 3rdcc.org. The bottom line and what the takeaway [11:38] should be from this presentation is that third circuit [11:43] court and its judges are available. We want everyone to [11:47] » [clears throat] >> have access to justice and we want [11:49] everyone to understand the process and the system. I in fact have gone to [11:55] several high schools within Wayne County giving presentations not only on the [12:00] third circuit court and what we do, but just [12:04] students in the law, how the laws impact you, thinking about the things that you [12:10] put on our social media, maybe taking a second look at your social media, [12:15] letting them know that everyone to some extent has some access to social media, [12:19] you should be careful what you're putting on there, reminding them very [12:24] simple things, things that even adults can take heed of and for example, if [12:29] you're going out of town, perhaps waiting till you return before posting [12:34] the images so that people aren't aware that you are actually out of your home [12:39] and that your home is empty. So things like that we just try to touch on with [12:43] the youth and so if there's ever any type of program that you feel like a [12:48] judge could come for a law day or anything like that, certainly myself or [12:53] one of my colleagues would be available. So that is the extent of our [12:57] presentation for the third circuit court and if any questions that I could [13:01] answer, certainly I'm available to answer those questions. Are there any? [13:11] » Yeah, thank you so much for doing this. In my whole career, I don't know how [13:14] long it's been, I don't know how been, I I've never had the circuit court come in [13:17] and address us. That's great. There's a lot of information there that I feel a [13:21] lot of people aren't aware of. >> All right. [13:23] » So I appreciate your time. >> Thank you. Thank you for having me. We [13:25] left some packets over there so if you have other community members that might [13:30] benefit from the materials, certainly they can have them. Thank you. [13:39] » Next we have the public forum. [13:43] Please address the podium, come up to the podium, give us your name and [13:46] address. And [13:55] Okay, we're moving on to the agenda. [14:00] » [clears throat] >> First we have resolution 2026-24 [14:05] to accept the 33rd judicial district circuit district court sorry not circuit [14:10] court on my annual financial report for the year [14:13] ending December 31st, 2025. >> Motion to approve resolution 2026-24. [14:21] » Motion by Ebert, supported by Jones. Any discussion? [14:26] Roll call vote, please. Jones. >> Yes. [14:30] » Killian. >> Yes. [14:31] » Brinker. >> Yes. [14:32] » Ebert. >> Yes. [14:33] » Catlin. >> Yes. [14:35] » Prius. >> Yes. [14:37] » Next we have the resolution 2026-25 to schedule a public hearing for the [14:42] confirmation of special assessment district SAD roll for Mill Creek [14:47] subdivision road maintenance and improvement programs. [14:50] » Motion to approve the 20 resolution 2026-25 [14:55] for the confirming special assessment district [15:00] for Mill Creek subdivision. >> Support. [15:05] » Discussion? Question. Don't we usually have the date [15:10] that the public hearing will be when we um [15:15] motion >> The answer to your question is yes. [15:19] » So that would be the third meeting in August, correct? [15:25] If I'm not mistaken. >> Right. [15:27] August the 17th. >> Yeah. [15:29] » August 17th, correct? >> Can we Can we amend that to August 17th? [15:33] » I believe it's in there. It's in the second in the resolution. [15:37] » Oh, I apologize. I thought we put it on the record. Sorry. [15:41] Um Did you have a problem with that? [15:44] » No. >> Mr. Killian, Trustee Killian. [15:47] » So, just to add the date of August 17th. >> I just want it. I thought we always put [15:52] it on the record when we do the motion. Okay. Um [15:55] » [clears throat] >> roll call vote, please. [15:57] Killian. >> Yes. [15:59] » Eber. >> Yes. [16:00] » Brinker. >> Yes. [16:01] » Allen. I'm sorry. [16:04] He's excused. Jones. >> Yes. [16:06] » Chapman. >> Yes. [16:07] » Bory. >> Yes. [16:09] » Next, we have Resolution 2026-26, certified resolution of the membership [16:16] of Board of Directors authorizing a special liquor license application for [16:20] the Brownstown Professional Firefighters Union for Brownstown Summer Festival on [16:25] August 14th and 15th. >> Motion to approve. Support. [16:29] » Motion by Jones, supported by Killian. Any discussion? [16:33] Roll call vote, please. Brinker, yes. Killian. [16:36] » Yes. >> Jones. [16:37] » Yes. >> Chapman. [16:39] » Yes. >> Eber. [16:40] » Yes. >> Bory. [16:41] » Yes. [16:44] » Next, we have second reading of Ordinance 141-86 [16:48] to amend Ordinance 141-45 Section 302-110-6-1508-2507 [16:59] and Excuse me, 25 -11 [17:05] by adding regulations of definitions for short-term rentals. [17:10] » Fix it. >> Motion to [17:11] » Fix it. >> second reading of Ordinance 141-86 [17:15] to amend Ordinance 141-45 Section 3.0 [17:20] 11.06, 15.01, 25.07, 25.1, [17:26] and any regulations and definitions for short-term rentals. [17:30] » Support. >> Any discussion? [17:33] » Through the chair, I just wanted to read those sections again. 3.02, [17:38] 11.06, 15.01, [17:42] 25.07, and 25.11. [17:47] » Mhm. >> There is something wrong with the [17:49] number. [17:53] » Okay, motion by Chapman, supported by Jones. Any further discussion? Roll call [17:58] vote, please. >> Chapman. [18:00] » Yes. >> Killion. [18:01] » Yes. >> Eber. [18:03] » Yes. >> Brinker. [18:04] » Yes. >> Jones. [18:05] » Yes. >> Burris. [18:06] » Yes. [18:09] » Next, we have first reading ordinance 141-87, [18:13] an amendment to ordinance 141-45, section 11.02A, [18:19] amending the use conditions for children daycare children's care centers. [18:25] » Motion to approve. >> Support, but I think it was section [18:28] 11.09. >> That's right. [18:30] Thank you. >> I'm sorry. [18:33] » Thank you. >> So, motion by Jones, supported by Eber. [18:38] Any discussion? Roll call vote. [18:41] » Eber. >> Yes. [18:42] » Jones. >> Yes. [18:43] » Brinker. Yes. >> Killion. [18:45] » Yes. >> Chapman. [18:46] » Yes. >> Burris. [18:47] » Yes. [18:51] » Next, we have um the [18:54] use permit for the ProTechnico [19:00] Fireworks Inc. requested for the Brownstown Summer Festival firework [19:04] permission permit for August 14th and August 15th, 2026. [19:10] » Motion to approve. >> Motion by Ebert. [19:13] » Support. >> Supported by Killian. Any discussion? [19:17] All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. [19:20] » Opposed? Motion carries. Supervisor, looks like we weren't busy [19:26] this week. No reports submitted. Clerk, board information only. [19:31] Motion >> Motion to receive and file for board [19:35] information. >> Support. [19:37] » Motion by Chapman supported by Jones. Any discussion? [19:41] All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. [19:44] » Opposed? Motion carries. Next we have disbursements for the [19:48] meeting of July 20th, 2026 in the amount of $2,719,7 [19:57] $189.55. >> Motion to approve disbursements for the [20:02] meeting of July 20, 2026 in the amount of $2,719,798.55. [20:10] » Support. >> Motion by Ebert supported by Brinker. [20:13] Any discussion? Roll call vote, please. [20:17] Jones. >> Yes. [20:18] » Chapman. >> Yes. [20:19] » Ebert. >> Yes. [20:20] » Brinker. >> Yes. [20:22] » Killian. >> Yes. [20:23] » Reese. >> Yes. [20:25] » Next we have a request for permission to obtain Brownstown's [20:30] » [clears throat] >> 2026 right of refusal for parcel [20:34] 70-023-01-008-5-000 [20:42] from the Wayne County Treasurer's for the purchase price of $1,497.15. [20:51] » Motion to approve but with the purchase price of $1,497.15. [20:58] » Two I'm sorry. I said two but I'm trying to correct the amount. [21:01] » Let's try again. >> I got three different things up. [21:03] » $2,000 >> $2,000 [21:04] » $497.15. [21:08] » Support. >> Motion [clears throat] to approve. [21:10] » Supported by Eberg. >> Okay, [21:12] supported by No, motion by Brinker. [21:17] » Brinker. >> Supported by Eberg. [21:18] » Supported by Eberg. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. [21:23] » I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Next we have [21:26] board information. >> Motion to receive and file. [21:29] » Support. >> Motion by Killian, supported by Jones. [21:34] Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. [21:37] » I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. Next we have [21:41] the recreation department, which looks like they didn't [21:44] do anything either, but I'm sure they did. [21:46] No report submitted. Next we have public works. [21:51] Approved to send two 250 [21:55] » Through through the chair, I think we missed community services report. [21:59] » Board information. >> I have um [22:04] Motion by Jones. >> That was me. [22:07] » Oh, I apologize. I apologize. [22:10] Okay, so we're going to go back to community center or community services [22:14] um board information. [22:16] » Motion to approve. >> Support. [22:18] » Motion by Eberg, supported by Chapman. All those in favor signify by saying I. [22:22] » I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. I apologize. [22:26] Next we have the recreation um department. No report submitted. Next [22:32] we have the public ser- public works. Approval to send two 250 trucks to [22:37] auction with VIN number 1 FTSX21R2T28AE05756. [22:52] Got that. And number 1 FTS [23:00] X21 R48EE0 [23:07] » Motion to disapprove sending two F150 trucks to auction. [23:13] » Support. >> Motion by Chapman, supported by Eberth. [23:18] You okay down there? >> [laughter] [23:21] » All those in favor signify by saying aye. [23:23] » Aye. >> Opposed? Motion carries. [23:26] Next we have the Township Manager update. [23:32] » Good evening, everyone. Um [23:36] Just one thing of note I wanted to start with is [23:39] seems like we're in the time of year where we're into [23:42] negotiating lots of different contracts. Obviously, I mean several collective [23:47] bargaining agreements up to the end of this year, which we're in the process of [23:51] doing. We completed our negotiations with GLWA, which was [23:57] approved by the board recently. Um we're also [24:01] sitting down and meeting with our waste hauling contract, trying to [24:05] negotiate good services and rates on that. This has taken a number of [24:09] meetings and we're continuing to pursue. Um and earlier today had our first [24:13] meeting to begin looking at health care renewals for for this year. So, a lot of [24:19] moving parts on some big issues um that we're just slowly but surely going to [24:24] work our way through. Um so, these are all things that [24:28] we're beginning to uh work on trying to get ahead of the [24:32] game on because we have to have them all completed by the end of this year and [24:36] they'll creep up on us quicker than we think. So, as we continue down with [24:41] these um obviously this evening we'll be providing an update on one of those, [24:46] but we'll continue to provide updates on status on all of these. Um so, a lot of [24:51] these that will be going on at the same time. [24:53] Um the other thing I wanted to to mention [24:56] earlier at the meeting the board approved a first reading for an update [25:00] to our ordinance relative to child care centers. [25:03] Just for a little uh background on that, [25:07] you know, we had been contacted by uh well, first of all, [25:12] there's such a huge need for child care right now in every community. It comes [25:17] up frequently when when residents are looking for [25:21] services in the area, looking for child care centers there. [25:24] Um we had uh [25:27] some people looking at our ordinance and just [25:30] you know, mentioned that you know, ours is pretty restrictive, which you know, [25:34] you don't really know unless you start comparing them. So, we we tried to do [25:37] some work comparing ordinances and realized that [25:40] the guts of what we have in our ordinance currently is really a standard [25:44] that was used back in the 1950s through the '70s on some of the spacing [25:49] requirements. And when we started reviewing that up against other [25:53] communities and and really just focused on Southeast Michigan, we found that [25:58] there was only one other community that was left that had not changed the basis [26:02] for their their ordinance the same that we had. [26:06] Um so, what we did is is try to modernize that ordinance in a way that [26:11] meets current needs. What child care was in the 1950s is not the same as it is [26:15] now. Um and now with the state requirements for licensing, there's a [26:20] lot that's handled at the state level that doesn't necessarily have to also be [26:25] piled on the local level. So, um appreciate the approval of first [26:28] reading. Uh we're going to uh [26:31] you know, looking forward to that getting in place so that we can have a [26:34] good ordinance on child care centers in the sub committee. [26:38] Um and I also wanted to thank planning commission for their quick work with [26:42] that and they're basically recommending approval. [26:46] Um another item that I know we've gotten [26:50] some questions on for residents relative uh to there's a a ballot [26:56] initiative on the smart knowledge coming up. We have received some information [27:02] from SMART just providing information on what the ballot initiative is seeking to [27:09] do, what it would achieve, all of those types of things [27:13] that we are going to be sharing just so that residents have as [27:17] much information as they they need to understand what is being requested of [27:22] them in that ballot initiative. So, that's something that will be will [27:26] be putting out uh probably later this week. [27:31] I also wanted to mention since obviously our next I know it's under our [27:36] uh board information later, but uh [27:39] we all have our our meeting or we have our meeting canceled due to the election [27:43] for the first meeting in August. So, there's a lot that will be happening [27:47] between now and then. And one of the main obviously our our summer festival [27:51] will be coming up. So, I wanted to at least uh make note of our summer [27:55] festival at the at this meeting will be coming up on August 14th and 15th. Um [28:01] we've uh tried to concentrate our efforts on that. I think it'll be a fun [28:05] event, two nights fireworks, music, uh all the the fun stuff that we've had in [28:10] the past. And just looking forward to having the community come out and enjoy [28:15] that. It's always a lot of work to get together, but something that's very [28:19] rewarding. So, hope to see you all there. [28:23] With that, that completes my report. >> Mr. Supervisor [28:26] » Just that summer festival, it's a great time. It's a the people who organize it [28:31] and the different and people in this room who work [28:35] work it, different departments. Um it is really a lot of fun. I've heard [28:39] from people not even from our community, communities all around it that show up [28:44] now and they're regulars. Um and it's great for kids. I mean, [28:48] really it's an excellent if you want something to do that's going to be fun [28:52] and family-friendly and entertaining, that's the place to be. So, keep up the [28:56] good work. I I recommend everybody who's aware of it just stop by. And you might [29:01] have the police chief or the fire chief drive you in [29:04] when you park long distances. They're driving around in their cars, picking [29:08] people up. Although, every year they pass by me for some reason, but [29:12] » [laughter] >> they are driving people to and from. [29:15] It's It's really good job for everybody and it's a lot of [29:18] fun for the citizens that they can show off. [29:21] » Thank you. I just wanted to um to jump on what Mr. Peters was talking [29:26] about. I have been getting a lot of calls from residents and the proposed [29:30] millage on the ballot for August for Brownstown [29:34] residents, it is a new tax. It is not a renewal. [29:38] Brownstown has opted out of this for many years. In 2025, a law was passed [29:42] that does not allow municipalities to opt out anymore. So, it is a new tax for [29:46] Brownstown residents and it's for 10 years. [29:51] Any other discussion? >> Mr. Chair, we can't get through tonight [29:54] without saying something. Pickleball question. [29:57] » Yay! >> You cannot get it I'm very excited. A [30:01] lot of people out there are making sure that they know coming out and joining [30:04] us. It's a lot of fun. [30:06] » I heard it was pretty busy Saturday night. [30:08] » A lot of fun. A lot of joy. It's They're beautiful. They're fantastic. I mean, at [30:12] night the lights is fantastic. So, make sure you come out and see it. [30:16] » It's fantastic. >> Lovely. [30:18] » Thank you. So happy to see you. [30:20] Any other discussion? [30:24] Okay. Um I'm going to go into the board awareness first. Um [30:28] just a reminder is uh Township Manager Peters said the regular scheduled [30:34] Township Board Meeting on August 3rd, 2026 is canceled due to the election on [30:39] August 4th. The next Township Board meeting will be [30:44] on Monday, August 17th at 6:00 p.m. here at the Township Hall. And please pass [30:49] the word on the festival. We need a good turnout. That would be great. We don't [30:53] want um make horse flat races as you can and [30:57] pay. The fairgrounds is where we camp. [31:01] So, all right. Next, can we consider closed session pursuant to MCL 15 or [31:08] 15.67 1 All right, let me start over. MCL [31:13] 15.2681c [31:18] to collective bargaining negotiations update for IAFF union. [31:25] » Motion to close session. Clark. [31:29] » Motion by Ebert, supported by Chapman. Did I say that right? Did you catch [31:33] that? Um roll call vote, please. [31:37] » Brinker, yes. Chapman. >> Yes. [31:40] » Ebert. >> Yes. [31:41] » Gowan. >> Yes. [31:42] » Killian. >> Yes. [31:43] » Reese. >> Yes. [31:46] » They will reconvene when we are done. [34:34] » Mhm. [36:29] » Mhm. [37:59] » Whatsoever. I mean that's a really good point. [38:03] » I stand by that. >> Did we reach a happy medium? [38:07] » Always. >> [laughter] [38:09] » Yeah, so it it it You have to do a U-turn. [38:13] What do you mean? So then your approach is like that. [38:17] You can't wait. Okay. Yeah. [38:21] Excuse us. >> Oh, when did you turn that off? Did I [38:25] miss that? >> Yeah, I did. [38:26] » You turned You unmuted it? >> Yeah. [38:30] » When did you do that? >> Just right now. [38:33] Just this second as they were walking in. [38:38] But only that this >> Yeah. [38:42] » Oh, for sure. >> And he does a great job. [38:45] Hi. >> Hey. [38:46] » You guys trying to wake up? [38:58] » [laughter] [39:08] » Oh, I can turn this off now. I had to keep it on so I would hear it. [39:20] » 20 hours. [39:23] » Um >> Yeah, I'll let him in. Yeah, I'll let [39:26] him in. He came in at 6:30. [39:30] Ready? >> Yep. [39:33] » Um can I have a motion to uh close close session close session? [39:38] » Motion to close the close session. >> Support. [39:41] » Motion by Chapman and supported by Jones. Any discussion? [39:46] All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. [39:49] » Uh opposed? It's six yeses. [39:53] Um motion to adjourn, please. >> Motion to adjourn. [39:56] » Uh >> Support. [39:57] » There needs to be a word that you know >> Uh there is one. I can't think of it. Uh [40:02] motion by Jones supported by Killian. Any discussion? [40:08] All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. [40:10] » Opposed? Motion carries. [40:17] » So, you want me to wait to do it or >> No, any minute. [40:21] And uh >> Oh, damn it.