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Okay, and we're ready to proceed. Okay, I'd like to

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welcome everybody to the February 15 Bruce county council meeting.

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And we'll bring the meeting to order. And we'll adopt

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the minutes from. February 1. Take a mover and seconder.

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Councilor Hamill. Councilor sharboned at the minutes of the February

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1 council meeting be approved as circulated? All those in

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favor. That's carried ask for a declaration of peculiar interest.

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Is there any peculiar interest out there? No. Okay. Hearing

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none, we shall move on. And then. We've got no

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public meetings, no delegations. We have numerous reports. For information

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today. So we have our community development office, small business

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Enterprise center, program extension. Are there any questions? For Mr.

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Loni about that. Councilor Craig. Through you, warden. Just a

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quick question to Mr. Loney. Through you. Do you have

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any partners? That we work with in that regard. Yes,

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the provincial government, but it's one of many. Small. Business

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incubators, and I'm wondering whether there's wisdom. In a broader

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sort of view of this, or whether the micro applications

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work best. If you could comment on that. Thank you.

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And through you, Warden Peabody, to Councilor Craig. The small

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business enterprise center is part of a larger network. There's

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small business enterprise centers located. In all geographic regions of

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Ontario. Our team works closely with each of those, while

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each operates slightly differently. We offer the same programs. The

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micro grants. That are done through this program, summer company

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and starter company plus. Are mandated by the province. They

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require us to run those as part of this agreement.

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But we do partner heavily through this and. They're Bruce

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Gray, entrepreneurship. Ecosystem is what it's referred to as about

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25 members in our area that are working. In the

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ecosystem, and our team takes a lead role in coordinating

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and bringing those partners together. I hope that answers your

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question, but happy for any follow up. Kate. Anything else?

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Very good. All right. Hey, Chris, can I ask. A

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question. Yeah. That's good if people can speak out, because

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on my screen here, I can't. See everybody, so. Go

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ahead, deputy warden. Hey, warden. Jeff, maybe. You could just

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give us a bit of color or any information you

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have. Do you anticipate? There will be any challenges with

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getting an extension of this program beyond 2025. I noticed

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as you say in your report they changed the arrangement

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the last time with this going from a three year

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agreement to two years with a one year option for

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extension. I don't know. If that means anything or not.

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About what they're thinking around this program. I just wonder

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if you have any through your networks or getting any

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sort of. Sense is the province thinking that they're going

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to continue this program? Do you expect we'll have any

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challenges or not? Thanks for the questions. For you word

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and peabody to councilor Sharboneau. The one year extension was.

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A new way to roll out this program through. The

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extension notice. We did get a comment from the province

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that the program is under review. They do reviews on

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these programs from time to time. Unfortunately, we don't have

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any additional. Information on what that review looks like. Other

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than being requested for some additional information through our reporting

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requirements at this time. We are hoping the province reaches

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out for more fulsome requests on the information for this

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program, but at this time they have not. They've only

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mentioned that the program is being reviewed. If I could

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just follow up, warden. I would just say that since

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they are doing a review. In my own view, this

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is a really good program, an important program that's done

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a lot of good in Bruce county throughout the time

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of its existence, and it would be a real shame

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to see it discontinued. I think it could continue to

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do real good. I would suggest that. Through our lobbying

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efforts over the course of the next several months, perhaps

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at amo or other opportunities. This might be a thing

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that we should put on the radar. To go to

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the province. And remind them how important a program it

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is and encourage them to continue it beyond 2025. So

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those are my views. Thank you, Warren. Okay. Moving on.

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We have four reports from corporate services. Pandemic funding, education

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taxes, property assessment, change. And the notional rate and the

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investment annual report. Are there any questions on either of

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those four items? Councilor Craig? Once again through you, warden.

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Just wanted to comment on the education tax. And though

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it seems as though a good thing that the tax

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rate is not going up, and real dollars, it makes

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quite a difference to our municipalities. I'm sorry I didn't

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have the numbers right here, but if I remember correctly,

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In the last ten years. Our municipality has lost in

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excess of $700,000. In taxes because. Of.

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This seemingly great initiative by the province to hold the

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education tax. At the same rate. It's a declining balance

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that the municipalities get, so I hate to push for

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a tax increase, but it ties in nicely to the

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proposed. Amo. New financial arrangement. With the province. There's a

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whole lot of fingers that tie it together, so just

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wanted to highlight that a little bit. Thank you, warden.

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Kate. Just on that note, Councilor Craig. MPP buyers did

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reach out to me about that, along with Warden Milne.

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And Chinese New year. He was talking about that, and

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he wanted to talk to the counties about that. So.

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I'm going to have our Cao. Follow up on that

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and set up a meeting and we can put your

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concerns in also along with our other concerns. About the

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arrangement that we have with province. We all know that

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at both levels we seem to be picking up more

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and more of costs, different services, whether it's conservation authorities

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or schools. Or ltc. Further questions. Yes, thank you, Warden.

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And my question is in regards to the item e

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corporate services investment annual. Report. I was wondering if our

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deputy treasurer, Lynn Hatton, Was available for this question. Yes,

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good morning. I'm available. Thank you very much. And. Going

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to, I guess. First question. There's two of them going

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to page seven. Let's go to it myself here.

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So. We have. A five year gic rate from cibc

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at 2.25. And then a 2.9 from Bimo. I was

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wondering. Why the difference in that zero 65. So the

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rate. The rates that are commented on in the report

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would be. What we were able to obtain directly from

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market. At the point in time. These are also referencing

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back to what those rates would have been at the

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point that we made the initial investment. So they're historical

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information. So there may be some differences between what CiBC

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and Bima were offering at that time. And what we

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would see now. It's mainly just a differentiation between what

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they're offering to the general market and. How they maybe

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see our business. Well, I guess my follow up. Is

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that? With that much difference, I would hope that. We

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would be seriously considering moving some of our investments to

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bemo instead of CIBc and that leads into CIBC did

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let down the center part of Bruce county here the

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last six. Months. And this is just for information today.

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But I would hope that we would have a serious

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look at our continuing working with CIBc. And see if

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there's other banks out there that. We could move some

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of our business to, or more of our business, too,

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so. This is just for information today, but I'll be

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working with staff in the future to see if. There

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is a notice of motion or what is a rate

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procedure on this, so just. Wanted. To highlight that and

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share my thoughts. Okay, Councilor Kirkland. There we go. I

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think I'm there. Yeah. I'm along the same line. And

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just asking staff, do you feel that we put enough

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staff time or do staff have enough? Time. To monitor

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these investments. When you're talking that kind of dollars and

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cents in investments. Is it? Somebody could almost pay for

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their wages in a year just on making sure the

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investments are making the dollars that they should be making,

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or do you feel dealing with the banks is the

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way to go. Through. Some pretty firm regulations around what

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we can and can't invest in through the municipal sphere.

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And we don't have the same options available to us.

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That individuals would or other businesses would, so. We very

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much appreciate and rely on some of the advice that

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we get from our investment advisors. With the banks that

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we choose to deal with, and we can consider which

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of those companies it is that we work with if

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needed in the future. Staff do monitor the value of

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the investments through regular investment statements on a monthly basis

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and review that information. You'll also note through this report

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that there have been times where we have made the

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decision not to hold some of these investments until full

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maturity because of what is happening in the market. So

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we are continuing to monitor that. We would always love

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to have more time to focus. On these things, but

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ultimately we do feel that we're keeping pace with making

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good decisions. Based on? The information available to us. The

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other thing is we don't want to be too reactionary.

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To minor changes in the market and making sure that

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we're thinking more long term about how we deal with

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our investments in line with how we need those funds

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for our different assets. And investments in the future. Thanks.

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Any more for Ms. Hatton. Okay, now we're on to

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four reports from human services. Q four report on childcare

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Q four report on housing services. Q four report on

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income and support services and. That's it. Darrell Diang Christmas

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program. Four. Any questions? About human services reports. Christine will

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be available to answer any questions. Councilor Kirkland. Yeah, I

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don't know if this pertains. To like. It's under the

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human services, where I put it, but in our two

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homes. Would child care. I know there was in the

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past, years and years ago. Businesses put childcare into their

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businesses to help with employees. And the levels of employees

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that you get. Would this be something or. We probably

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already have considered it looking into childcare in our two

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homes to help with our employee. Racial and to attract

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employment. Good morning. Ward, and through you. Tanya Dixon is

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on the line providing coverage for human services. But. I

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will speak to this one. In terms of the delivery

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of our childcare system. We have opportunity to work with

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both nonprofit and for profit providers. And definitely look at.

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In terms of where a childcare center is established. There's

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sort of a pro forma around them, making good sense

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of the business, working. So if there were a nonprofit

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or a for profit provider that we're interested in sharing,

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space with us. That's definitely something we've reviewed historically at

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different times we've worked in. Partnership with some of the

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other local municipalities around delivery of programs as well, too.

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homes. So originally, we actually did have our early years

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program co located with our long term care home. In

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Brisbane Haven in Walkerdon and ran out of space and

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actually needed it for delivery of services for the long

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term care home. But there is a system in place

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where any of our staff are able to access services.

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The same way that members of the public are around

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childcare and the childcare team are regularly working. On increasing

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the number of spaces and the number of providers that

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are available in community. So definitely there's work undergoing. You

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may have seen just recently, the children services team did.

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Release. They are starting the beginning of a planning process

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again around childcare in early years and are looking for

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input from community and various partners, and so there's opportunity

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again for ideas. To be brought forward for them to

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work on over the next four years as well, too,

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so. Definitely things that have been considered, have been worked

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on through the years and always open to that. Happening?

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Again where opportunity presents itself, Councilor Kirkland, for sure. Thanks.

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warden. Sorry. Jumping to the report. On the Q 420

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23 Housing services report. Just interested and wanted to highlight,

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maybe ask a question about. The Knights of Shelter provided

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to individuals and families in 2023. Just, I think, worth

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highlighting that the YMCA, on our behalf, provided 11,714 nights

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of shelter. In 2023 on behalf of Bruce County. A

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lot of comments talking about shelter and the need for

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shelter in sogging chores. In particular, we have some really

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active groups, some great groups who are advocating for. Folks

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who are homeless in our community and looking to come

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up with options for them. And I think? One thing

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I think. We don't talk. Maybe enough about or highlight

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enough is just how much we are doing. On that

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front. And this work, this partnership we have with the

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Ymcas are really. Effective partnership in this. I just really

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highlights just how much work they're doing. Right? Like, 11,714

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nights of shelter provided just in one year. And I

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wonder, maybe I could ask the question to staff. How

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does that compare? I don't see the number in here.

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I may have missed it. If I did, I'm sorry

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for that. How's that? Compared to previous years. Do we

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know? How are we trending in that program in terms

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of how many nights of shelter and. How many families

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or individuals we are serving. And. It gives the average

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nights per household. How many households are we serving now?

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And how does that compare to previous years and how

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many nights of shelter we're providing? How does that compare?

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And what's the trend look like? So through you, warden,

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I'll start councilor Sharboneau to advise that just. Recently as

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we prepared for Roma staff, we're looking at numbers in

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partnership with the Western Wardens caucus. And over the last

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five years, our use of homelessness sheltering has increased. By

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500%. And then I'll turn it over to Tanya to

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provide any more specific details about comparison. Year over year.

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Thanks, Christine. And through you, warden, like Christine said, we

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know there's been a huge increase. In the number of

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nights sheltered. I don't have the year over year I

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can provide. That in another report. If you'd like me

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to, I can look at year over year. That's no

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problem. We do have. The other chart, emergency shelter use,

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that does show the number of households and the number

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of people within the household. So that is the blue

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and red chart just below. The Knights of Shelter provided,

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but I can do that as a year over year

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as well. I do know anecdotally that since Covid, so

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since 2019 we have seen that spike in emergency shelter

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use, but I will bring a report back with that

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information. Well, that's good. And maybe just a quick follow

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up, warden. 500% increase in the usage of this program.

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That's your headline number. And pretty concerning number. Are we?

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I guess. That obviously requires a greater investment by us.

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And more work, greater investment by the YMCA, or at

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least. A greater. They have to stand up their resources

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to do that as well. What are we doing now

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as a part of the housing and homelessness master plan,

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I guess. Where we're projecting to the future in terms

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of. What kind of funding, what kind of organization we

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are going to need. To meet not only the current

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demand, but, I mean, if it's grown by 500%. Over,

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I think the CIO said over the last five years.

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There's no reason to think it won't continue to grow.

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I guess I'm maybe answering my own question. The housing

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and homelessness master plan is going to provide us with

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the answer in terms of what we need to do,

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because I think this is just. Another area where. We

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need to go. To our provincial and federal counterparts and

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talk about housing. Right. We need. To have more support

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from them to get these people. Into housing, not just.

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Shelter and get them out of this cycle and into

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some more permanent housing and. We need them to come

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up with the money and the programming to do that

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and that support. Just isn't there. So we're painting the

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picture through the housing and homelessness. Master plan that we

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can then carry to them and say, here's what we're

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facing and what we're going to be facing. And here's

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what we're going to need from you. Am I on

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the right track there, Tanya? Yeah, through you, Ward. And

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you are on the right. Track, and we are working

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on that. We're also working on some cost analysis with

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the why? To work on the bigger picture of how

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much is it costing and what that's going to look

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like moving forward. So there's a couple of pieces that

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included in the housing. And homes's plan that we're working

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on with the why and also working on. A community

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homelessness. Sorry, a rural homelessness response model. So looking. More

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at the. Rural circumstances and challenges being from a rural

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community that we're facing with our people that are experiencing

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homelessness. Thank you, warden. And through you, warden, I'll layer

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on top of what? Tanya discussed specifically to our sheltering

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and support services for those that are experiencing homelessness on

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top of that, we layer on our county efforts around

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the community development office and where we have the planning

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teams and the housing services team working together more broadly.

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We will have a sister document, if you will, to

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the housing and homelessness plan, which is our housing action

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plan. That's that work in that co space that will

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be coming forward. Once we've had opportunity to consult and

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receive some input from our municipal partners again, so. That

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works coming up as well, too. And, of course, all

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the work that we've been doing to. Approve new promises

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and where developers are making some gains in moving some

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new buildings forward. As we start to see our vacancy

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rate. In our rental and purpose built units increase. That

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will also help with the pressures with the sheltering. System

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as well, too. So there is an interaction between these

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pieces of work, and we'll continue to try to provide.

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You information that helps you understand the specifics of program

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areas and then how they come together. Okay, Councilor Kirkland.

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Yeah, just on that. Has the county been approached by

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these tiny home development people that are looking at that

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torque type of thing for? I don't know if it's

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short term. To solve that or whether it's even long

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term, but. Are we responsive to that? Or, like, pro

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tiny home communities or is it something that we're not

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even looking at? Don't know. Through you, warden. Perhaps best

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to turn this one over to Claire. To provide that

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response. Thank you. And through you, Warden, to Councilor Kirkland.

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Thank you for the question. Staff are regularly approached and

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also in dialogue with a number of. Different developers, different

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forms of housing. And as we know through previous conversations

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at council, that certainly we're looking at at a full

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spectrum and a full suite of different housing options. With

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our discussions around tiny homes, we are in the process

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of reviewing our county official plan making sure that we've

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got up to date policies that are flexible to look

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at different housing. Options. And, of course, we'll be consulting

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and working with our municipal partners in terms of. What

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specific approvals might need. To happen more at a local

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zoning level. So we are regularly reviewing a whole variety

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of options, tiny homes certainly being one of them. Yeah,

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because I look at even county owned properties or municipally

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owned properties where there is already present services. Like our

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hub up here in Wyarton, the county hub. There's three

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or four extra acres there, I believe, of land that

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has, I don't. Know if the county. Has any thoughts

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on the use of the lands, but is this something

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that we point these tiny home developers to when we

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want to be in partnership as far as giving up

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the land, not giving it up, but allowing those developments

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in areas that can go where there is full services

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and you don't have to look at tile beds and

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wells. And all that other stuff that ends up being

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environmental because now you're over the 100,000. Or 10,000 gallons

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of sewage each month, which causes more problems, but short

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term. We do have properties that are on full services,

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and I'm just wondering, are we looking at that type

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of thing. If I might, through you, warden to Councilor

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Kirkland. We are absolutely working on getting an inventory of

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properties and looking at what the potential is for. The

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long term use, whether that be an assessment of properties

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for. County owned facilities and meeting our needs. In terms

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of our county department. But then also looking more broadly

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at what are some of those larger needs in terms

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of affordable housing. What you will see through. Some of

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the preliminary discussions we're having in terms of developing the

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housing action plan. Is what we would want to bring

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forward is a broader strategy to council in terms of

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receiving the broad support, the broad criteria in terms of

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how to look at the future use of those lands.

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So that will be something that we're doing some preliminary

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work on as staff, but. That is something that we

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would look to further through. The housing action plan, so

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you'll hear more about that shortly. Thanks. All right. Anything

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else for human services? Hearing? None. We have Jay, office

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of the CIO business plan update. Any questions on that?

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Hearing? None, then. A final report. Our information report is.

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K the Port Elgin station update. Paramedic. Any questions about

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that? Good update there. Good information. Just one quick one.

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Warden Peabody, if possible, go ahead. Yes. When I went

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through the generator. Is it natural gas or diesel? And

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does it also power our Lakeshore hub, which is right

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beside. Thank you for the question and through you, warden,

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to councilor Hamill. It is Diesel. We wanted it to

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be. Goddardge ran into the issue of cutting off the

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natural gas when they had the tornado through. So we

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decided to go diesel. And as far as I know,

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it doesn't. Power the library headquarters. It just does the

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paramedic station. I can double check that, but from my

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understanding is it's just a paramedic. Building. Okay. Thank you

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for that. Councilor kirkland. Just on that. I noticed the

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upset limit is $10 million for borrowing over the next,

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so. Many years, and we've approved that. And it looks

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like the job is coming in on pretty close to

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budget, which is good. Is there any idea? Will there

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be a report come to exactly what the amount is

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that we're going to long term. Put in for paying

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this off. Or. Is it just. It could be up

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to 10 million because. I would like to see us

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borrow the least amount that we can, because that makes

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a big difference on interest in the future. Thank you

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for the question to you, warden to Councilor Kirkland. Yes.

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We will do. Final report. And tell you exactly how

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much we will be borrowing at the end of the

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project. And as of. Just for a further update, things

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are moving along quite well. We're going to do a

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walk through next Wednesday with all the engineers and everything.

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And as of right now, as long as. Things continue

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to move. As they have been. We're looking at Hastings.

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Looking at? Turning the building over to us by the

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end of the month, and we're really hoping on occupancy

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by the mid middle of March. Okay, very good. Moves

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along ten. We have five reports for direction from council.

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The first report, item a. There will be a staff

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presentation on the official plan amendment I'll. Read the motion.

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Motion from councilor Kirkland. And councilor gets that the county

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official. Plan amendment see 2023 eight implementation amendment be adopted

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and the appropriate bylaw before. County for council adoption. Motion

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is on the floor, and we'll have a presentation first.

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We have Monica. Is going to, I believe. Or is

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it chat? Presenting. Thank you, warden. I can speak to

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it. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. So I'm

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very pleased to be bringing forward this report. On the

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county official plan amendment for the project that we call

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the implementation amendment. Council will be familiar with this amendment

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to the county official plan because it came forward for

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a public meeting December 7. Of the end of last

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year. And at that time, I gave a full presentation

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on the amendment. So in my remarks today, I will

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focus on. Very high level overview. And then focus in

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on what's changed since the public meeting. So at the

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public meeting, one comment was received from the floor. From

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person that works as a local planning consultant by the

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name of Bev Nicholson. Also at that time, written comments

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had been received just before the public meeting from another

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local planning consultant, Don Scott from Questa planning consultants. And

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around the time of the public meeting, there was some

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ongoing discussions with sogging a jigway Nation regarding policies that

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are included in the implementation amendment that deal with our

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approach. The county's approach and the expected approach for all

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planning applications with regards to indigenous consultation. So flowing from

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that public meeting. There were some tweaks and changes that

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were made to the proposed amendment in response to the

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comments that we received. All of the comments that we

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received and changes that have happened. Since the circulation of

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the public meeting notice are summarized in an attached document

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to my report. Called comment and response matrix. And just

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again, to give a high level overview. To the extent

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we were able, we incorporated some helpful comments that came

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from Bev Nicholson planning consultant and Don Scott, planning consultant.

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And so a few of the changes that you'll see

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in the final document reflect. Their valuable input. And with

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regard to the changes that. Were worked out with sagging

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Ajibwe Nation. There were quite some comprehensive changes to our

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proposed policies, but the impact and effect of them remain.

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The same. The values of upholding. Appropriate and respectful consultation

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with indigenous communities in Bruce county has been incorporated into

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those policies. Indigenous. People generally are recognized and soggy. Nation

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is highlighted as. An important indigenous group within our community.

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And. May remember me talking about these information boxes that

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are included with the new amendment. There's a nice, comprehensive,

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did you know? Box included, which provides some great background

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information on what the Soggy Najibwe nation is and some

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of the values that they hold. For consultation. So all

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those things, I think. Were great, positive improvements for the

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proposed amendment. So those are things that I was happy

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to be able to just highlight briefly in my presentation.

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To you this morning. The other aspect of the amendment

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that I wanted to highlight briefly in my remarks this

472
00:32:53,595 --> 00:32:57,990
morning is overall how the implementation amendment works and how

473
00:32:58,315 --> 00:33:02,910
it helps to facilitate policies for housing and especially affordable

474
00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:10,741
housing. So the implementation. As we move towards. A new

475
00:33:10,786 --> 00:33:14,395
county official plan for Bruce County. There will be basically

476
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:21,706
four sections, and the fourth section. That. Is covered here

477
00:33:22,031 --> 00:33:26,380
with the implementation amendment. Is a portion of the plan

478
00:33:26,825 --> 00:33:31,140
that provides enabling policies that put effect to the goals

479
00:33:31,505 --> 00:33:35,964
and objectives of the official plan. So if it is

480
00:33:36,009 --> 00:33:40,364
a goal and objective to create housing and create more

481
00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:45,363
affordable housing, there are some tools that are implemented. Or

482
00:33:45,408 --> 00:33:49,581
brought into force with this implementation amendment. That are now

483
00:33:50,346 --> 00:33:53,581
available in the county official plan. So, as an example,

484
00:33:53,986 --> 00:33:57,541
there's a new section that's been adding for community planning

485
00:33:57,906 --> 00:34:01,501
permit systems, which is a type of development approval. Process

486
00:34:02,266 --> 00:34:06,093
that. Is available through the Planning act, and it enables

487
00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:12,133
local municipalities to combine zoning and site plan approval so.

488
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:16,105
With those brief policies that are now included in the

489
00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:20,164
county official plan. Local municipalities that want to implement something

490
00:34:20,489 --> 00:34:23,644
like community planning permit system don't have to do an

491
00:34:23,969 --> 00:34:27,124
amendment to the county official plan to pursue that opportunity.

492
00:34:28,262 --> 00:34:31,137
New section has also been added for inclusionary zoning, so

493
00:34:31,422 --> 00:34:34,297
if permitted by the province, inclusionary zoning could be used

494
00:34:34,942 --> 00:34:39,417
to require affordable housing to be constructed for certain residential

495
00:34:39,502 --> 00:34:44,031
development projects. Those tools aren't yet available through the province,

496
00:34:44,396 --> 00:34:47,431
but again, by including that in the county, official plan

497
00:34:47,516 --> 00:34:50,591
through the implementation amendment. We enable those tools should they

498
00:34:50,876 --> 00:34:57,431
become available. Community improvement policies have been updated with the

499
00:34:57,516 --> 00:35:03,369
anticipation that. There may be in the future. An authorization

500
00:35:03,814 --> 00:35:07,689
by the provincial government for county council to identify community

501
00:35:08,134 --> 00:35:11,849
improvement projects, areas and affordable housing again. Those tools aren't

502
00:35:12,174 --> 00:35:16,363
available yet. Because the county isn't prescribed by the planning

503
00:35:16,408 --> 00:35:20,723
act to do that kind of community improvement. Policy work,

504
00:35:20,808 --> 00:35:25,076
but in the event that that comes available. The policies

505
00:35:25,481 --> 00:35:30,696
are available. Through this implementation amendment. To not require us

506
00:35:30,741 --> 00:35:33,616
to scramble and do an amendment to enable that. That

507
00:35:33,701 --> 00:35:37,232
will already be in place. And then finally. There's a

508
00:35:37,317 --> 00:35:40,872
small tweak to the policies for severances or what we

509
00:35:40,917 --> 00:35:44,912
call consent policies to no longer include a requirement to

510
00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:49,272
follow the existing frontage and density pattern. Of an existing

511
00:35:49,557 --> 00:35:55,659
neighborhood or. Subdivision. And this change could facilitate smaller lots

512
00:35:55,984 --> 00:35:59,979
for infilling within existing development. And so, as we move

513
00:36:00,344 --> 00:36:06,087
towards taking advantage of. Infilling opportunities to capitalize on existing

514
00:36:06,372 --> 00:36:10,980
roads and infrastructure. Investments to create more housing opportunities. A

515
00:36:11,025 --> 00:36:16,219
policy like this facilitates infilling. In situations like that that

516
00:36:16,264 --> 00:36:20,935
might be available. So overall, with my remarks today, I

517
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:25,652
didn't want to rehash. Information that I had provided previously

518
00:36:26,257 --> 00:36:28,172
at the public meeting, but I wanted to give you

519
00:36:28,497 --> 00:36:30,892
a summary. Of what's changed since we last spoke about

520
00:36:31,257 --> 00:36:37,015
this amendment. Highlight. Highlights some of the positive aspects of

521
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,121
the amendment, especially for housing and affordable housing. And just

522
00:36:41,566 --> 00:36:49,403
express our excitement about having. A significant part of the

523
00:36:49,488 --> 00:36:54,419
project for plan the Bruce moving forward. Through this amendment

524
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:58,682
to the existing official plan. We're putting some of the

525
00:36:58,767 --> 00:37:02,682
really important bones of the new county official plan into

526
00:37:02,807 --> 00:37:06,036
place. That will move us forward as we move forward

527
00:37:06,721 --> 00:37:11,104
to a new county official plan. For the county. So

528
00:37:11,469 --> 00:37:14,624
those would be the broad remarks that I would make

529
00:37:14,669 --> 00:37:18,032
now, and I'm available if there are any questions. Okay.

530
00:37:18,797 --> 00:37:24,573
Right. So lots of very substantial changes. There's some lots

531
00:37:24,578 --> 00:37:29,855
of questions. Who would like to go first? Hey, milt.

532
00:37:32,654 --> 00:37:37,299
Thank you, warden. On the partial services aspect of it.

533
00:37:37,624 --> 00:37:39,979
Can you give me an overview of how that has

534
00:37:40,384 --> 00:37:47,404
changed? The county's approach to planning and facilitating development where

535
00:37:48,049 --> 00:37:51,004
there are partial services. So, for example, if sewer exists

536
00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:55,284
but not water or water exists but not sewer, have

537
00:37:55,689 --> 00:38:00,190
not changed. There are some changes that are facilitated through

538
00:38:00,275 --> 00:38:04,630
this amendment to clarify what would be required by developers

539
00:38:05,035 --> 00:38:09,847
in those instances. So what's been clarified is that. If

540
00:38:10,332 --> 00:38:14,447
municipality has a servicing master plan that speaks to how

541
00:38:14,772 --> 00:38:18,007
partial services will be addressed, then you follow the servicing

542
00:38:18,692 --> 00:38:22,782
master plan. If a municipality doesn't have a servicing master

543
00:38:22,827 --> 00:38:27,306
plan. Then developers are required to provide something called a

544
00:38:27,351 --> 00:38:32,999
servicing strategy that examines. The feasibility. Of full municipal services.

545
00:38:33,364 --> 00:38:37,318
And if full municipal services aren't available? How partial services

546
00:38:37,763 --> 00:38:40,878
are appropriate for the form and type of development that

547
00:38:41,243 --> 00:38:44,798
they're proposing. So we're really not moving away from the

548
00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:47,598
county's current approach, but the tweaks that are being made

549
00:38:48,283 --> 00:38:52,986
to the servicing section clarify. The planning department and county's

550
00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:59,777
expectation for developers. In those instances. Good. Thank you. Further

551
00:38:59,862 --> 00:39:08,655
questions. Councilor Sharbano. Thank you, warden. So I really appreciate

552
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,630
the work that's gone into these and. The support. That

553
00:39:12,955 --> 00:39:14,870
will now exist in the county's official plan for community

554
00:39:15,275 --> 00:39:19,374
planning permit systems. And inclusionary zoning are things that I've

555
00:39:19,419 --> 00:39:21,740
long wanted to see. And so it's great to see

556
00:39:22,385 --> 00:39:25,220
these coming to fruition and have them implemented in the

557
00:39:25,225 --> 00:39:28,720
plan. And it really supports. It's a thank you, I

558
00:39:28,765 --> 00:39:32,640
suppose, from talking chores and particularly on community planning permit

559
00:39:32,685 --> 00:39:34,880
systems. That really supports the work that we're trying to

560
00:39:34,885 --> 00:39:37,520
do. We're hopeful that we'll get some support from the

561
00:39:37,565 --> 00:39:40,600
federal government through our Housing Accelerator Fund application to enable

562
00:39:40,725 --> 00:39:44,080
us to actually roll one of those out and make

563
00:39:44,125 --> 00:39:46,720
it happen. They've been making some announcements. Lately for rural

564
00:39:46,805 --> 00:39:50,905
communities. We haven't heard. Anything yet for ourselves. But this

565
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:53,025
just demonstrates, though, that there's some really innovative things happening.

566
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,034
In rural communities, I'm sure not just here but across

567
00:39:57,439 --> 00:40:01,434
Canada. And some support from the federal and provincial government

568
00:40:01,759 --> 00:40:03,514
to help do some of these things would be much

569
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,059
appreciated. I guess the question that I have is maybe

570
00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:09,179
a broader question. Obviously, I support all of this. But

571
00:40:09,264 --> 00:40:12,019
we haven't had an update in a while about the

572
00:40:12,024 --> 00:40:17,572
rest of the official plan. And. There's a lot more

573
00:40:17,617 --> 00:40:19,412
to do. This is a really important step, but obviously

574
00:40:19,777 --> 00:40:24,267
there's. A lot of other pieces. The natural heritage. Water

575
00:40:24,392 --> 00:40:30,654
system pieces, the agricultural pieces. There's. A lot left to

576
00:40:30,659 --> 00:40:34,728
do, and I just wonder. Can you, Monica, or maybe

577
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:38,248
jack or even CIO or anybody give us a sense?

578
00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:42,742
Of. I get that it's a difficult and maybe even

579
00:40:43,067 --> 00:40:46,504
a painful question. But do we have a sense of

580
00:40:47,429 --> 00:40:49,184
what the timelines look like on that, when we might

581
00:40:49,189 --> 00:40:53,398
be looking at the rest of this thing. I'm happy

582
00:40:53,483 --> 00:40:55,558
to be the first one to speak to that. And

583
00:40:55,603 --> 00:40:57,478
then if our director would like to jump in with

584
00:40:57,763 --> 00:41:02,339
further comments that might be helpful. But I really appreciate

585
00:41:02,664 --> 00:41:05,379
the question, and especially because it's so top of mind

586
00:41:05,744 --> 00:41:08,512
for the work that I do. And my role as

587
00:41:08,557 --> 00:41:12,552
planning manager and my previous role as senior policy planner.

588
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:16,055
The county official plan, work and plan the Bruce is

589
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:20,186
very core to the work that I'm doing. And so

590
00:41:20,591 --> 00:41:22,906
I appreciate the question because it shows care to something

591
00:41:22,951 --> 00:41:28,983
that I also care about. So without. Leaning too hard

592
00:41:29,388 --> 00:41:33,440
on. The excuse point. I think it's important to make

593
00:41:33,845 --> 00:41:37,240
clear that there are aspects of the Bruce county official

594
00:41:37,285 --> 00:41:40,000
plan. Plan? The Bruce project that aren't able to be

595
00:41:40,325 --> 00:41:44,871
shared with the public. At this time, because the provincial

596
00:41:45,196 --> 00:41:48,031
framework that we're required to be consistent with the provincial

597
00:41:48,356 --> 00:41:52,523
planning statement. Is in state of flux at the moment.

598
00:41:53,208 --> 00:41:58,533
In April of 2023, the province proposed. Pretty extensive changes

599
00:41:58,938 --> 00:42:03,017
to the framework that we work within. And at that

600
00:42:03,062 --> 00:42:06,598
point, It affected the work that we were doing in

601
00:42:06,923 --> 00:42:09,885
the sense that. We were starting to develop policies and

602
00:42:10,210 --> 00:42:14,245
move those forward into public consultation process. But that aspect

603
00:42:14,570 --> 00:42:17,205
of the project had to be put on pause. And

604
00:42:17,250 --> 00:42:19,045
the reason for that, of course, is that it wouldn't

605
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:23,525
be appropriate for us to share draft agriculture policies if

606
00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:28,899
we don't know. That those policies will be. Effective with

607
00:42:28,944 --> 00:42:31,339
the PPS changes, and we want to be very clear

608
00:42:31,984 --> 00:42:34,597
to the public and. We want to not be offering

609
00:42:35,202 --> 00:42:38,037
mixed messages. So when we do go to the public

610
00:42:38,802 --> 00:42:47,670
with agriculture, policies. Growth like. How policies for residential development

611
00:42:47,995 --> 00:42:51,110
will happen in communities. All of those were affected by

612
00:42:51,155 --> 00:42:56,750
the PPs changes. Councilor Sharboneau, deputy mayor Sharboneau mentioned natural

613
00:42:56,795 --> 00:43:00,968
heritage policies. That is a next area of focus for

614
00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:05,613
us because. When the changes were announced in April, there

615
00:43:05,658 --> 00:43:08,413
was a kind of holdback on natural heritage and then

616
00:43:08,738 --> 00:43:12,213
later they did release what their proposed changes were in

617
00:43:12,258 --> 00:43:17,021
natural heritage, and they were very minimal. So that would

618
00:43:17,066 --> 00:43:19,741
probably be the next area of focus for us to

619
00:43:20,146 --> 00:43:23,875
start to develop. And possibly move another chunk of work

620
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,969
forward. And I shouldn't say start to develop, because there's

621
00:43:29,014 --> 00:43:30,409
been a lot of work. Going on in that area

622
00:43:30,854 --> 00:43:35,679
already. But that would be an area of focus if

623
00:43:35,724 --> 00:43:39,159
we do need to continue to move policies forward. In

624
00:43:39,164 --> 00:43:41,559
a part by part basis. That could be another part

625
00:43:41,604 --> 00:43:44,159
that we would look at. But what we really hope

626
00:43:44,244 --> 00:43:50,072
to do is. To. Because those natural heritage policies fit

627
00:43:50,157 --> 00:43:52,832
in with part three. And there's other parts of part

628
00:43:53,157 --> 00:43:55,872
three that were affected. So it would be really nice

629
00:43:55,917 --> 00:43:58,312
to be able to go to the public. With a

630
00:43:58,357 --> 00:44:01,992
comprehensive suite of policies because, of course, natural heritage policies

631
00:44:02,037 --> 00:44:06,032
are interrelated to agriculture. Policies are interrelated to policies of

632
00:44:06,397 --> 00:44:09,106
how communities will develop and grow. So it's maybe not

633
00:44:09,431 --> 00:44:14,969
a great approach to always do everything piecemeal. But we

634
00:44:15,014 --> 00:44:18,169
definitely feel that there's work we can advance in that

635
00:44:18,214 --> 00:44:21,914
area of natural heritage. So, to put in a nutshell,

636
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,034
we eagerly anticipate announcement from the province of what the

637
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,154
framework is that we are required to be consistent with,

638
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,354
and then when we have that, we'll be in a

639
00:44:32,399 --> 00:44:35,834
better position to be able to project timelines for this

640
00:44:35,879 --> 00:44:41,848
project wrapping up, and especially the all important community. Consultation.

641
00:44:43,225 --> 00:44:51,185
Okay. When I was at farmers week, I mentioned our

642
00:44:51,590 --> 00:44:54,385
Rop, and there was a lot of interest. From the

643
00:44:54,750 --> 00:45:00,435
farm committee when the public meetings would be. So. It

644
00:45:00,401 --> 00:45:06,574
was definitely a hot button issue. Okay, Councilor Kirkland. Yeah.

645
00:45:07,419 --> 00:45:10,174
Great document. Just trying to take it all in here

646
00:45:10,179 --> 00:45:15,082
because there's a lot to do good for you. My

647
00:45:15,207 --> 00:45:19,900
question is when I've talked to my building department. Is

648
00:45:19,985 --> 00:45:24,646
the nitrates. When you have a community that. Is vastly.

649
00:45:26,111 --> 00:45:29,146
Does not have services. I think of pretty well all

650
00:45:29,231 --> 00:45:32,580
of savvy beach. Chastity Lake. I think of other areas

651
00:45:32,945 --> 00:45:36,940
within our county, the shoreline, all the way from King

652
00:45:37,225 --> 00:45:41,626
Cardan. South. I think of inland lakes. Large areas without

653
00:45:42,471 --> 00:45:46,626
services this nitrate, why do we need to duplicate what

654
00:45:46,991 --> 00:45:50,866
I believe the building code? Can already do with our

655
00:45:51,191 --> 00:45:54,066
building department. So if they're the ones that are on

656
00:45:54,391 --> 00:45:58,537
site. Doing? Whatever needs to be done and the studies

657
00:45:58,582 --> 00:45:59,937
that need to be done for the nitrates. Why? Do

658
00:45:59,942 --> 00:46:03,017
we need a duplication or is it a duplication when

659
00:46:03,062 --> 00:46:06,329
I see it in the county official plan. Through the

660
00:46:06,374 --> 00:46:13,014
word, and I appreciate the question. This may. Sound like

661
00:46:13,099 --> 00:46:15,254
a dodge, and I don't want it to sound like

662
00:46:15,259 --> 00:46:19,514
a dodge. This amendment that's coming forward for the implementation

663
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:26,341
amendment as I address Councilor McIver's. Question. Is not proposing

664
00:46:26,386 --> 00:46:33,221
a departure from our current approach to servicing. And. The

665
00:46:33,266 --> 00:46:38,465
question about how nitrates. Can be considered when considering certain

666
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:43,725
forms of new development, either. On individual private services or

667
00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:47,171
partial services. Is something that we would like to take

668
00:46:47,496 --> 00:46:50,651
a closer look at for the new official plan and

669
00:46:50,976 --> 00:46:53,771
we are definitely hearing from staff at some of our

670
00:46:54,056 --> 00:46:58,781
local municipalities. That. They want to look at this issue

671
00:46:59,226 --> 00:47:03,159
closely. The position that our department has taken in those

672
00:47:03,524 --> 00:47:07,835
conversations has been that the province. Says that we are

673
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,955
to address nitrate and planning approvals. So that would include

674
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,208
the types of approvals. That the county makes decisions on

675
00:47:15,933 --> 00:47:20,850
for things like. New infilling or new small subdivisions or.

676
00:47:22,036 --> 00:47:26,191
Other developments, like townhomes, that might be on partial services.

677
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:29,255
And so we do think that there is a role

678
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:34,182
to play. For planning policies in the county. Official plan

679
00:47:34,547 --> 00:47:38,727
and advice from planners. And what is the appropriate approach

680
00:47:39,052 --> 00:47:42,527
to addressing those provincial criteria when it comes to the

681
00:47:42,572 --> 00:47:46,891
role. That the Ontario building code plays in that that

682
00:47:46,976 --> 00:47:54,151
would be. At the more focused level of issuing building

683
00:47:54,556 --> 00:47:58,111
permits on approved lot development. So I think there's, a

684
00:47:58,116 --> 00:48:01,591
role for the provincial nitrate guideline to play at both

685
00:48:01,636 --> 00:48:05,830
levels. At least that's. The position that. We've taken in

686
00:48:05,875 --> 00:48:09,424
some of those conversations. But I think that where we've

687
00:48:09,469 --> 00:48:12,584
left things with staff is that we appreciate that they

688
00:48:12,909 --> 00:48:15,224
have the concern and that it's something that we would

689
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:19,563
like to look at. And address, if we can, through

690
00:48:19,888 --> 00:48:23,003
the new county official plan. So the distinction that I

691
00:48:23,008 --> 00:48:26,203
would make today, since we're talking about the implementation amendment,

692
00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:29,723
is that the implementation amendment doesn't. Really open up that

693
00:48:30,048 --> 00:48:33,603
discussion or that policy work. That's work that we would

694
00:48:33,968 --> 00:48:38,724
contemplate. Doing with the new county official plan. Okay, so

695
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:44,245
does that make it clearer in my head? And I

696
00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:47,405
understand what you're saying from the provincial policy statement, but

697
00:48:47,690 --> 00:48:51,405
we haven't. Seen their final document or what they're doing.

698
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,765
So when I hear from, it's not just our building

699
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,045
department. And as you said, you've heard from other building

700
00:48:57,450 --> 00:49:02,855
departments that. They feel they can address. It in house

701
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,975
and not have to duplicate and not goes back to

702
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:09,375
my same question. So this isn't etched in stone, is

703
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:12,655
what I'm understanding. From what you're telling us right now

704
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:17,295
that through consultation with yourselves and other build that will

705
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:20,095
still happen, because I would really like to not see

706
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,235
it in this official plan. At all and just leave

707
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,715
it up to the building departments within each area and

708
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,915
district because it sure affects the areas that aren't on

709
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,648
full water and sewer. And it's something that I would

710
00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:37,457
like to keep that as local as possible. Within our

711
00:49:37,502 --> 00:49:40,377
local building departments, but that's just my view on that.

712
00:49:41,505 --> 00:49:44,220
Thank you. Further questions.

713
00:49:51,729 --> 00:49:56,396
All right. Thank you to the planning staff. It's very

714
00:49:56,561 --> 00:50:00,356
important. Updates. Since we do have a delay, as Luke

715
00:50:00,441 --> 00:50:06,249
pointed out, very important. That we move along here. Just

716
00:50:06,334 --> 00:50:08,609
on one of the notes I did meet with along

717
00:50:08,894 --> 00:50:12,969
with our Cao yesterday. Met with the chiefs of Sagina

718
00:50:12,974 --> 00:50:17,832
and Naywash in two separate meetings. And some outreach. To

719
00:50:18,277 --> 00:50:23,592
just listen about concerns regarding the county and what we

720
00:50:23,637 --> 00:50:25,952
can do to improve the relationship and I was able

721
00:50:25,997 --> 00:50:32,634
to. Use these amendments. On consulting son in the meeting

722
00:50:33,279 --> 00:50:37,908
as a positive. And they were very receptive and very

723
00:50:38,273 --> 00:50:41,428
positive about the interactions they've had with our planning staff

724
00:50:41,753 --> 00:50:43,628
as well as a few other departments. But I did

725
00:50:43,633 --> 00:50:46,924
bring this up specifically. So it did go a long

726
00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:49,124
way to creating some goodwill with San, so thank you

727
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:59,031
very much. On little item there. Thank you, warden. Monica

728
00:50:59,676 --> 00:51:05,182
just on that issue with regards to. Son. Just another

729
00:51:05,347 --> 00:51:09,742
question on how that has changed from our original approach

730
00:51:09,787 --> 00:51:13,704
right now, has it changed much? Or is it still

731
00:51:14,029 --> 00:51:21,140
much the same? Through the ward and. Great question. I

732
00:51:21,185 --> 00:51:27,377
would say. That our efforts towards. Really framing a good

733
00:51:28,142 --> 00:51:32,364
working relationship. With indigenous peoples has been evolving over the

734
00:51:32,409 --> 00:51:36,192
years. And the intention has always been to have a

735
00:51:36,237 --> 00:51:41,977
positive working relationship and wording such as. Developing consultation protocols

736
00:51:42,062 --> 00:51:46,594
existed. In the current official plan and are still proposed

737
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:50,994
in the new amendment. So the spirit hasn't. Changed much,

738
00:51:51,759 --> 00:51:58,389
but sometimes the words we choose. And the framing. Of

739
00:51:58,514 --> 00:52:02,869
our evolving relationship in a better way can go a

740
00:52:02,914 --> 00:52:06,949
really long way to creating an effective policy that works.

741
00:52:08,814 --> 00:52:15,308
To support that relationship. So. I think that San did

742
00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:19,536
see what we had offered as a huge improvement. And

743
00:52:20,101 --> 00:52:23,376
some of the old fashioned wording may have been considered.

744
00:52:26,516 --> 00:52:30,071
Not no longer appropriate. And so they do see this

745
00:52:30,476 --> 00:52:34,635
as a good step forward. If I could word. Just

746
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,795
to follow up on that, you mentioned the old fashioned

747
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:45,620
wording and. Give me a couple examples of. How that

748
00:52:46,065 --> 00:52:49,368
has changed. The example through the warden. The example that

749
00:52:49,693 --> 00:52:51,608
I'm thinking of that was highlighted is there. Was a

750
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:55,088
phrase that said in the current plan, and I'm paraphrasing

751
00:52:55,133 --> 00:53:02,116
from memory. The county recognizes indigenous communities desire to be

752
00:53:02,161 --> 00:53:07,379
consulted. And they don't really think it's just a desire

753
00:53:07,784 --> 00:53:09,579
that they have. They think that it's a right that

754
00:53:09,584 --> 00:53:12,939
they have. So when you use the term desire, it

755
00:53:12,984 --> 00:53:16,659
sounds like old fashioned language. And when you properly choose

756
00:53:17,024 --> 00:53:20,619
the right words to frame your intent and your purpose,

757
00:53:21,384 --> 00:53:25,298
then it really creates. A better platform or framework to

758
00:53:25,343 --> 00:53:28,835
work from in our working relationship. Sounds good. Thank you,

759
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,342
Monica. Okay. Thank you very much. I've read the motion.

760
00:53:35,067 --> 00:53:41,798
All those in favor? Ken, you had a question? You're

761
00:53:41,843 --> 00:53:47,922
on mute there. No, I raised my hand, that's all.

762
00:53:48,727 --> 00:53:52,682
Okay. All right, good. Okay. That's proof. Onto item b,

763
00:53:53,047 --> 00:53:57,059
plowing match. We'll need a mover and seconder from councilor

764
00:53:57,304 --> 00:54:01,864
Hamill and councilor. Craig. That Bruce county support the efforts

765
00:54:02,109 --> 00:54:05,384
of the Bruce County Plumbings association to host the 2026

766
00:54:05,509 --> 00:54:08,984
IPM in Bruce county and that council support providing startup

767
00:54:09,029 --> 00:54:12,064
funds of up to $100,000 conditions of which would be

768
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:16,228
brought back at a future meeting. Questions from council. Yes.

769
00:54:16,673 --> 00:54:23,388
Councilor gets. Do you think we should clear the air

770
00:54:23,473 --> 00:54:26,428
first on the issues that have been brought to our

771
00:54:26,473 --> 00:54:36,353
attention earlier before we support. This proposal. Okay. I would

772
00:54:36,438 --> 00:54:41,790
feel that we should probably defer this here. Okay? I

773
00:54:41,795 --> 00:54:45,303
know before the meeting, there was some questions about. The

774
00:54:45,708 --> 00:54:51,834
landowner, laying farms and. I was able to call Tony

775
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:56,141
this morning. And he was very positive. They're totally on

776
00:54:56,786 --> 00:54:59,901
site of helping out the IPM that just happened at

777
00:55:00,026 --> 00:55:03,546
ten that I got a hold of them. So that

778
00:55:03,631 --> 00:55:05,826
issue was cleared up. And then, Mark, there's some other

779
00:55:06,191 --> 00:55:10,741
issues about. By putting the 100k cap, I think we'll

780
00:55:10,746 --> 00:55:14,544
be able to negotiate, give staff direction. One of the

781
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:19,470
issues out there is that. Dufford county. When I was

782
00:55:19,515 --> 00:55:26,234
at the Wardens caucus, they spent 318,000. On the plowing

783
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:31,702
match and. I did. Talk to our staff. I thought

784
00:55:32,027 --> 00:55:33,502
that was a little bit much. I don't know if

785
00:55:33,827 --> 00:55:37,502
council's appetite is there for 318. I didn't think so.

786
00:55:38,831 --> 00:55:41,586
I thought we should set a cap there. That's in

787
00:55:41,911 --> 00:55:50,002
the motion. For negotiation. Mark, follow up. Maybe Brockton can

788
00:55:50,287 --> 00:55:54,722
kick in the other 218. They'll benefit from this. I'll

789
00:55:55,007 --> 00:55:59,276
ask Chris toff report on that one. I'm just joking.

790
00:56:01,453 --> 00:56:06,153
Okay, Councilor Craig. Thank you, Warden. I think the wording

791
00:56:06,198 --> 00:56:08,433
is correct in that this is a startup funding and

792
00:56:08,718 --> 00:56:14,406
when we get the staff report back. Indicating more precisely.

793
00:56:15,668 --> 00:56:19,890
What it will be directed for. What? The timelines and

794
00:56:19,935 --> 00:56:23,346
all those sorts of things. I am not suggesting this

795
00:56:23,351 --> 00:56:26,786
is the maximum amount, but this is the appropriate amount

796
00:56:27,191 --> 00:56:29,986
to start with. And we'll see what comes of it

797
00:56:30,351 --> 00:56:36,543
later on. Okay. All right. Councilor Murray. And thanks through

798
00:56:36,588 --> 00:56:38,823
you, Warden. Thanks for clearing up the concerns that were

799
00:56:38,908 --> 00:56:43,914
before the meeting. And I would support this motion. As

800
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:48,515
mary ken craig has said, Okay, very good. And I

801
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,606
think. Some of the issues down in Duffer, and they

802
00:56:52,611 --> 00:56:56,400
only had nine and a half months to plan. We've

803
00:56:56,405 --> 00:57:00,258
got this timeline now. So I think. It'll obviously work

804
00:57:00,263 --> 00:57:05,418
out with the longer timeline. Councilor Kirkland? Yeah. If we

805
00:57:05,423 --> 00:57:09,399
don't. Approve this at this point. Staff won't be able

806
00:57:09,444 --> 00:57:11,239
to deal with some of the issues that are on

807
00:57:11,284 --> 00:57:13,919
there, like the sewage. There was three or four other

808
00:57:14,284 --> 00:57:16,913
things that are in kind. To be able to know

809
00:57:17,238 --> 00:57:20,233
what those things are going to be valued at. That's

810
00:57:20,278 --> 00:57:23,033
my understanding that if we don't pass this, they won't

811
00:57:23,318 --> 00:57:26,113
be able to do all that investigation. Is that true?

812
00:57:27,381 --> 00:57:29,616
Yeah, they won't be able to negotiate. And then there's

813
00:57:29,621 --> 00:57:32,520
also the issue. Of the group that was here last

814
00:57:32,805 --> 00:57:37,142
meeting, taking it forward to the provincial group looking. For

815
00:57:37,547 --> 00:57:41,583
a vote. On bruce county. Yeah, I'm okay with moving

816
00:57:41,988 --> 00:57:50,060
this forward. Okay, very good. Anyone else? Councilor Murray. Thanks,

817
00:57:50,385 --> 00:57:53,420
Warden. Through you again. And just because we support this

818
00:57:53,505 --> 00:57:56,140
today, it doesn't mean there's any guarantees that it will

819
00:57:56,505 --> 00:58:00,519
actually happen in 2026. It's still got to go through

820
00:58:00,924 --> 00:58:04,479
the whole Ontario Plowman's thing and. If somebody else steps

821
00:58:04,484 --> 00:58:07,199
forward, it could end up somewhere else, is my belief.

822
00:58:08,073 --> 00:58:10,388
But supporting it is a good first start to bring

823
00:58:10,753 --> 00:58:16,832
it to Bruce County. Yeah. I think that is true.

824
00:58:17,437 --> 00:58:21,329
It has to be the provincial executive. Although lately they

825
00:58:21,374 --> 00:58:25,043
do seem to. Be. I don't know what happened with

826
00:58:25,408 --> 00:58:32,109
the host community. For last year. One county council canceled,

827
00:58:32,394 --> 00:58:35,528
and then Daffern had to pick it up. I don't

828
00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:38,688
know. If it's not like prior years where decades ago

829
00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:44,617
it used to be a big competition between counties. Provincial

830
00:58:44,662 --> 00:58:52,184
executive will see this offer, and I'm sure. They'll jump

831
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:59,268
at it. Okay. All those in favor? Okay, that's approved.

832
00:59:01,738 --> 00:59:06,408
Okay. Corporate services. Property tax policy review motion from councilor

833
00:59:06,773 --> 00:59:11,528
Sharboneau, councilor McKiver, that the 2024 countywide tax ratios and

834
00:59:11,573 --> 00:59:14,328
class discounts be approved as set out in appendix one

835
00:59:14,573 --> 00:59:16,448
and that staff be directed to prepare the necessary tax

836
00:59:16,573 --> 00:59:19,968
rates and ratio by law and the tax relief program

837
00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:23,168
for charities and other similar organizations be continued for the

838
00:59:23,493 --> 00:59:26,733
2024. Taxation year and that the tax relief program for

839
00:59:27,018 --> 00:59:30,173
low income seniors and low income persons with disabilities be

840
00:59:30,258 --> 00:59:36,379
continued for the 2024 taxation year and. That no optional

841
00:59:36,744 --> 00:59:43,773
property classes are recommended. Any questions? Okay, all those in

842
00:59:43,818 --> 00:59:53,489
favor? Arrived. Corporate services capital

843
00:59:53,854 --> 00:59:57,889
spending overage moved from councilor Hamill, councilor Craig, that capital

844
00:59:58,214 --> 01:00:01,009
spending overages outlined in the report for 2023 be allowed

845
01:00:01,294 --> 01:00:03,929
to be absorbed in the urine surplus. Or deficit as

846
01:00:04,254 --> 01:00:10,673
they are immaterial in nature. Questions. All those in favor?

847
01:00:14,201 --> 01:00:17,356
Item e. And we have a motion on the striking

848
01:00:17,721 --> 01:00:20,516
committee. This is a new committee, and the purpose of

849
01:00:20,521 --> 01:00:24,396
the committee is to recommend appointments to committees, review terms

850
01:00:24,761 --> 01:00:33,167
of reference, and to administer the CAO. Performance evaluation, and

851
01:00:33,212 --> 01:00:38,872
so this was just changed. When cio thompson was still

852
01:00:38,957 --> 01:00:43,895
here. And we implemented this along with our new. Meeting

853
01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:49,714
procedures. The striking committee consists of myself, the deputy warden.

854
01:00:53,907 --> 01:00:58,544
And councillor Craig. Going forward. Next year, for example, it

855
01:00:58,549 --> 01:01:03,613
would be the warden, deputy warden, and then. Somebody that

856
01:01:03,898 --> 01:01:08,232
next year's warden chooses for the third member. So I'll

857
01:01:08,277 --> 01:01:12,752
read the motion and take any questions moved from deputy

858
01:01:13,077 --> 01:01:16,232
mayor Sharbano. Thanked by councillor Murray that the warden councilor

859
01:01:16,517 --> 01:01:20,512
gets be appointed to the accessibility advisory committee and that

860
01:01:20,597 --> 01:01:24,072
councilor Craig. And councilor gets be appointed to the community

861
01:01:24,517 --> 01:01:29,456
drug and alcohol strategy. Any questions? All those in favor?

862
01:01:34,114 --> 01:01:41,951
That's carried. To our bylaws. Moved by councilor gets councilor

863
01:01:42,276 --> 01:01:46,271
Kirkland that the following bylaw be approved bylaw? Number 13,

864
01:01:46,836 --> 01:01:48,951
a bylaw to restrict the weight of vehicles passing over

865
01:01:49,316 --> 01:01:56,437
county bridges. All those in favor? That's carried. We have

866
01:01:56,802 --> 01:02:01,314
a communication. From town of South Bruce Peninsula Social and

867
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:06,234
Economic Prosperity Review. I did mention already in reference to

868
01:02:06,279 --> 01:02:08,874
Councilor Craig's concern. I was going to wrap that in

869
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,820
with that proposed. Meeting with MPP buyers along with the

870
01:02:14,865 --> 01:02:19,793
warden of Gray County. To discuss this issue. And it

871
01:02:19,798 --> 01:02:24,468
was. Member buyers who suggested this. So very good of

872
01:02:24,513 --> 01:02:32,689
it to reach out on that. Okay. Anything else? We

873
01:02:32,734 --> 01:02:37,617
have a confirmation of proceedings. A motion from councilor Hamill,

874
01:02:37,662 --> 01:02:41,537
councilor Craig, that bylaw 14 be approved a bylaw could

875
01:02:41,902 --> 01:02:43,777
confirm proceedings with the Council of County of Bruce at

876
01:02:43,822 --> 01:02:51,730
its meeting held the 15th day. Of February 2024. All

877
01:02:51,775 --> 01:02:55,672
those in favor? That's carried. And just before I call,

878
01:02:56,037 --> 01:03:00,255
motion to adjourn. Last week we had a follow up

879
01:03:00,620 --> 01:03:05,461
to Aroma delegation. So that wrapped up. Our roman delegations,

880
01:03:05,786 --> 01:03:08,061
we met with the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions,

881
01:03:08,346 --> 01:03:11,981
Minister Tibalo. We had a very good meeting advocating on

882
01:03:12,066 --> 01:03:17,347
extending our paramedicine program to mental health visits. So that's

883
01:03:17,712 --> 01:03:22,206
an excellent application that our EMS staff put together. And

884
01:03:22,931 --> 01:03:27,235
we've had two meetings on this. And. I think the

885
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,373
things are looking favorable. I'd like to thank our staff,

886
01:03:32,098 --> 01:03:38,068
our CIO and all our staff. Who participated in the

887
01:03:38,473 --> 01:03:40,992
Roma delegations. There was a lot of work that went

888
01:03:41,277 --> 01:03:44,072
into this, a lot of advocacy on number of important

889
01:03:44,917 --> 01:03:48,112
programs, and I think all our delegations went quite well,

890
01:03:48,837 --> 01:03:51,592
and council should be very happy with the work staff

891
01:03:51,997 --> 01:03:55,472
did in setting us up to advocate for very important

892
01:03:55,917 --> 01:03:58,912
programs. Just this one for example, the paramedic and for

893
01:03:58,957 --> 01:04:01,873
mental health, if we get that. That will be really

894
01:04:02,278 --> 01:04:04,993
a big deal to the people in Bruce county. If

895
01:04:05,038 --> 01:04:07,273
we could have our paramedics go and do some home

896
01:04:07,558 --> 01:04:10,313
visits on the mental health checkups or assist the police

897
01:04:10,358 --> 01:04:12,645
on a call. There was a lot of good work

898
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:16,605
that went on with the intergovernmental affairs department. Supported by

899
01:04:16,930 --> 01:04:21,552
all the other staff. At Roma and certainly look forward

900
01:04:21,597 --> 01:04:26,083
to building. That. Through the year and then leading up

901
01:04:26,368 --> 01:04:30,356
to amo. Okay. Need a motion to adjourn.