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Good afternoon. We're going to convene this meeting. It is 1.02 p.m. on Tuesday, November 12th. We're

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going to start with a discussion. Does anybody have any issues or any action items from the

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second regular meeting that they would like a separate discussion, or have anything

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Yeah, on the considering.

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Oh, okay.

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I'd like to pull 6J.

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6J.

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6J, we're actually pulling that from the agenda, and it won't be discussed until the next meeting.

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Oh, you're pulling that?

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Potentially the next meeting.

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Okay.

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Got something.

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Paul?

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Yeah.

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I got one question for you on the police vehicles.

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Do we wait?

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On the police vehicles, the new one?

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That is five C police

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vehicles for 485,000. Yeah that right there now on the

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older ones what are they doing they're going on mileage or did we get any

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racked so generally on the emergency vehicles police cars and fire trucks

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ambulance we don't go by maintenance as much as we go by mileage simply because

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we can't really afford for one of those to break down so we generally rely

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on the fleet department to make that determination when they've hit the mileage

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when it's time to, I think we sell them or trade them in. What's our threshold on

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that, Keen, do you know? Like 150,000? Yeah, it's a hundred or less. A hundred or less.

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Yeah. All right, did you need a presentation on that? No, I'm good. I just

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had that question. Thank you, Keen.

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Well, if there are no other issues,

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we're going to go straight to the presentations. We've got the presentation

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by Dr. Jason Barfnick.

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Good afternoon Mayor Pro Tem Council. Before we get started I

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want to say a little bit about the water. This presentation is to give you an

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update and is based on a requirement for provisions passed by the federal

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government to the EPA, to TCEQ and then delegated down to the cities for

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all public water supply systems to do is survey, initial survey of their service lines, both

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public and private side, provide that information available to the public and then to work toward

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identifying any unknown services whether they contain lead, made out of lead or not.

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Before I get started, there's no indication that there are any lead issues with the water

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supply in Bryan.

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So we don't want anybody to take away from this that there is a problem with lead in

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the water within Bryan, Texas.

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It's not a Flint, Michigan situation.

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I want to go through this.

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Your seat gave you a copy of the presentation.

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There's also a copy of the letters that we will be sending out and so if you have any

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questions about that you can ask, but I will go through the presentation and then summarize

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at the end that there is not a problem with the water in Brian, but I want to get that

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point across.

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If we have questions would you like us to shout them out or you won't wait until

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the end of the presentation?

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No, go ahead and stop me and ask as we go along.

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So go over some background information, there's some specific definitions, go over

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For the lead testing that we've done and Brian in the water over time, our current efforts

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that we have to comply with this recommendations and then questions at the end.

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So when we talk about service line, what we're talking about is the piping that comes from

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the city main, which is either located in the street right away or within an easement

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that goes up to the meter.

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That's where we have a dividing line between public and private.

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it.

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And then the private side is from the meter to the house or the structure or wherever

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the water is used.

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So you have the public side, utility online, and then the customer online.

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In this program, we're required to identify both sides.

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Lead pipes were used in back in the 1800s all the way up into the 1980s.

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And around 1986, Congress passed the Safe Drinking Water Act, which banned the use

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of lead.

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In July of 1988, lead piping was banned in Texas.

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In June of 1991, EPA adopted its first lead and copper rule that provided some provisions

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for utilities to do testing within the system on the water, typically through the house

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or a structure to see what kind of lead concentration may be in the water as it's being used.

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In December of 21, EPA finalized the lead and copper rule revision.

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It was the first touch of the lead and copper rule in 30 years.

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In 22, they issued the guidance on our initial service line inventory.

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A few, about a month or so ago, you may have heard that the lead and copper rule

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improvement revision was adopted and passed by the Biden administration.

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It provided a 10-year window to remove any lead service lines found.

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October the 16th, we were required to provide our initial service line inventory to the

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state, which we did comply with.

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In 30 days after that, by November the 16th, we were required to have postmark notifications

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to customers that either had a status of unknown galvanized requires replacement

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or a lead service line.

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According

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to this 40 CFR 141, water systems must provide notification within

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30 days of completion of the lead service line inventory. That's the October

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16th date. Water systems, we shall also provide notices to new customers at the

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time of service initiation. We work with BTU, if somebody comes in and there is

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an unknown status at an address and the tenant changes, new customer.

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The new

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service line their status is unknown until we work through all of these that

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we have.

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So how does lead get into the water? Lead is more soluble and acidic

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water, a pH of 6.5 and lower. So you may have a pipe that is there that's made out

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of lead. The water sets in it overnight when it's not being used. Maybe some of

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the lead in the pipe leaches into the water. Next morning you turn on the

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tap and here comes that first surge of water through the pipe and into

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the house and maybe into your glass water. Lead is from lead piping, plumbing fixture,

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solder, and fittings that leach into the water. City Brian's water, pH is 8.3 to 8.5,

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so give a little pH scale. We're to the right, more alkaline side of things. If you're

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on the left side, you would either be treating that water to bring it up or making sure

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that you don't have that lead leaching into your water.

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On October the 8th, the EPA, as I mentioned, released the final lead and copper rule improvements.

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Lead service line replacement requires the public water system to identify and replace

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all lead pipes within 10 years.

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It changes the process for sampling lead in the drinking water, lowers the allowable

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lead limits in drinking water, requires more consistent and communicable citizens

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about lead pipe replacement schedules and locations.

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That's more specific if your water is above the threshold that they have set.

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And then it lowered the lead trigger level, which is now currently a 15 parts per billion

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down to 10.

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Get into the definitions.

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What is a lead service line?

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Lead service line is just what it is.

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It's a line that's made out of lead.

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Galvanized requires replacement.

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It is a galvanized service line that is or was at any time downstream of a lead

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service line, or is currently downstream of a lead status unknown service line.

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If the water system is unable to determine that the galvanized service line was never

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downstream of a lead service line, we must presume that it was upstream, was the lead

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service line.

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So the default is, if I can't prove that it was not lead, I have to assume that

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it was lead.

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Out of all of them that are listed here, I think that one's going to be the one

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that we're going to have the most trouble proving because there are a lot of places in town

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where we have gone in and replaced our water mains since they were first built and we replaced

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them and now there's a copper service but that line may have been put in in 2005.

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The house that's there may have been 1940 model or 1950.

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I don't have the chances of me having a record that the original service line was

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is not a lead line is going to be pretty low.

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A non-lead line, a service line is determined through an evidence-based record method or

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technique not to be lead or galvanized requiring replacement.

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And an unknown service line is the service line material is not known to be lead, galvanized

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or non-lead service line such as where there is no documented evidence supporting

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material classification.

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So we're actually going to have to go out and actually physically locate, find, dig

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up and verify what the material type is. Question? Yeah. Is the those clay pipes

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coming in? The clay pipes is on the sewer side. On the sewer side? Yeah, this is just

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on the water distribution side of the system. It won't come into play? That is

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correct.

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Historical lead testing. The city of Bryan has tested for lead and

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water going back to the early mid-1990s. It falls in line with the

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original lead and copper rule in 1991. We qualify for reduced sampling and

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monitoring due to our historical low test results as far as the concentrations of

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lead in the water. We test for lead every three years as required and 30

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samples were taken throughout the city. If we didn't qualify for reduced sampling

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that number of samples would be 60.

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This is a graph showing going back to 2006

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every three years what the lead concentrations have been out of the

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30 sites. You can see it's hovered around two parts per billion down

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to say one and a half. The top, the 15 parts per billion was the threshold and the new lead

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limit is the one at 10 parts per billion.

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Dr. Barfkine, I'm looking at 2018, we had a

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reduction and then it jumped back up in 2024 slightly obviously. But do you have an explanation

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for that? I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's a potential.

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I know in

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Anything below one part per billion, they call that a non-detect, so I don't know if it may be something

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from one of our wells that were running at the time that maybe it had a little more in it or

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It just turned out the way that it was sampling that maybe one of the sites had a little more than it did in the years past

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Regardless, we are way below both the old and the new by the limit correct

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So current efforts on our lead service line inventory we submitted that on October the 16th

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there are 36,446 address points that we identified throughout the city. We're

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going by address points and what does that mean? Well suppose you have an

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apartment complex and each unit is addressed separately then if there's a

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hundred units in there then we may have one meter but it's actually a hundred

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units it's a hundred customers that we would have to notify depending on the

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service line. Currently we have seven just over 17,700 of unknown 15,910

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we've identified as non-LED out of that 36,000, about 2,800 of them are vacant lots. We have

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found two galvanized requires replacement lines and our intent is to meet with those customers

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individually just not rely on a mail out to them but I've asked staff to get with those two

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customers and discuss with them what the letter means and what the requirements are

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and then zero lead service lines yes sir that's you talking about the city

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service line up to the meter right yes sir okay and what if the house will

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build before 1988 yes so how is that being addressed it's still getting lead

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right well so the pipes are still is there any losing by the government about

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the houses I mean on the other side of the meter so really what this rule is

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doing is from the main to the house mm-hmm it doesn't cover any plumbing

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inside the structure. What we are required to do is identify both the public

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and the private side of the service line. So for the 17,759 unknowns, we will

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continue to look for records to see if we can identify any information on those.

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And even if I find that, say in these older neighborhoods where we replaced a

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water line, I know that my water line and service line may be copper, but I

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can't call it designated non-lead or galvanized requires replacement or

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whatever other than unknown until I identify what the private line is. So we

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will have to physically identify by some method what the private service line is

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made out of. Right now we're planning to do that just outside the meter box but

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who's to say that right outside the meter box that piece wasn't replaced

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and then, you know, 10 feet later, you know, that's another material type. So there is going to be,

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you know, an effort on our part. We're not digging up the entire service line to identify the material.

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We are picking spots right outside the boxes to evict that identification.

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I've got a stupid question. Obviously, this is a federal mandate that we do this. Yep.

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Through the, what did we say the, what the? Ledney Copper Rule? Yes. His federal government

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for body.

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Is there any funds that could assist in?

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There are some funds, even the ARPA funds that they provided could be used for this. And I

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think that's one of the things that, you know, we need to be discussed as we go forward on

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the private side, you know, how would we want to handle the replacement of that if

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it's warranted? Is it something that we want to provide, say, like on the service,

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on the sewer side? And when we go out and smoke test and we've identified it defects,

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We've come up with a program where we would help pay, and then the customer could then

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pay us back through a loan program over time.

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That's one option.

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Another option would be, you know, possibly the city participates in replacing that.

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Whenever we do a relocation where we've had meters in the back, we relocated the meters

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to the front because that's where we want them.

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We're putting that new line in to reconnect the house we're paying for that.

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So there may be some legal implications to us spending public funds on the

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private side but that may be a topic for us to discuss as we go through this

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process and and identifying the lines and how many we have looks to me almost

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eighteen thousand unknown the the staff time required to ultimately identify to

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their to their satisfaction just seems like it's going to be massive it's

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going to be effort.

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So our current efforts are a records review for

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infrastructure and house bill dates. So we've looked at record drawings. We've

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looked at through BCAD when structures were built, when subdivisions were

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plated, field identification of materials. We have done some of that

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already, both the city side and the customer side. We've developed a form

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internally for our water crews to use when they go out and are working on

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the lines for them to provide that information back to us on what they

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found. We've created a website on our service line inventory, provides information, allows

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the customer to share information to us if they know that they've replaced their line

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or they just happened to work on it and they know what's there. They can provide that information

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back to us through that web form. Service line inventory verification, it's an ongoing effort.

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The inventory is to be a living inventory. It will be updated regularly and submitted to the

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state and we're required to submit it annually to them and update it and keep

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that thing going until we identified all the lines.

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So what if lead or galvanized

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requires replacement is found? If lead is found we're going to notify the state, we

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will notify the customer and we're going to replace that service line

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immediately that's on the public side. If we find a galvanized requires

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replacement most of these are going to be on the private side because it's

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to be downstream of a lead line or a line that is unknown. We would notify the customer

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proposing that we take a sample and test it just like what we do now for our EPA lead and copper rule

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just to see if there is any lead that has been trapped in that galvanized pipe that may be

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leaching out and may be in the customer's piping. That test is going to be around $50 or so

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for us to do, but that would give some peace of mind to the customer what may be in the

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water and see how close it is to our historical testing numbers.

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So Dr. Borsig, in the historical districts in Bryant, are there any evidence or trace

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of some of those houses that were built before 1988?

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Oh, it was a lot of houses that were built before 1988.

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Oh, it was a lot of houses that were built before 1988.

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Are they coming with a lead pipe?

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I don't, right now, I don't have any evidence right now that, you know, that

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there is currently a lot of lead piping in the city. Is there a chance that there

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is lead piping on some of these services? Yes. May we find some? Yes, we might.

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That's the process that the EPA is wanting to do with this, is to make the

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water systems go through and identify and when you find them replace them to

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make these safer place to try to improve the water system. I think even if we

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find some because our water is more alkaline not as corrosive I don't know

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that it would be an issue as far as the customer consuming lead by the use of the

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water and certainly if the council wishes as we go through this process if

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we find some lead service lines in your district we can certainly provide

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that information to you if that is a desire of the council as we go through

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this process.

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I would say if we find any, it would be in these older neighborhoods, you

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know, Brian Original Townside or the older neighborhoods where the houses are older is

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where I would expect to find them.

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Water services replace any public-led service lines found

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immediately and notify the state. Private lines notify the customer. If it's a galvanized

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requires replacement, we're offered to test the water for lead levels and provide

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information as far as potential sources for lead and how the customer can go

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about minimizing lead consumption and then utilize the loan program for

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private replacement. Now if there's more of an effort if the council wishes that

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we budget a certain amount per year to help the private citizen replace these

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lines we can have those conversations as we get into budget and confirm

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legally we can do all that we can certainly have those conversations.

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Things to do to reduce lead exposure. Before drinking or cooking, flush your

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home's pipes by running the tap, taking a shower, doing laundry, or running the

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dishwasher. So if you don't feel comfortable, there are some things here

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that you can do proactively to get that first set of water that may have been

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sitting in the pipe flushed out before you put water in your glass or you

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use it. The amount of time depends on how long your service line is. I think

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I calculated that based on the one inch pipe going across the street maybe 80

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feet long. I think there was about two two and a half gallons of water in there

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so it does not a whole lot of water in there and wouldn't take long for it to

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be circulated out. Use only cold water for drinking cooking and making baby

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formula. Boiling water does not remove the lead. Use a water filter that is

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certified to remove lead and don't run hot water through the filter and

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and clean your faucet screen, also known as the aerator regularly.

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The lead levels are historically low, but low-actionable level in Brian.

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There's not a lead problem within the water system.

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Service line inventory will continue and customers notified

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when required. Any public lead service line found will be replaced immediately.

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As I mentioned, we will notify the state, we will communicate that with the customer,

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provide

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literature to them on on what we found and and how they may reduce exposure to

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lead and any galvanized requires replacement lines found for the private

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line will be communicated with the customer or the property owner. In some

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cases we have the tenant which needs to be notified because they're the one

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that's using the water and we may have a property owner that may be out of

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state out of the city that we would need to discuss on anything we decide

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to do about what needs to be done as far as replacing the line.

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Do you

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Any questions?

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Dr. Barbara, I have one question.

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Obviously, this is not a problem right now.

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We are 2% or lower, which is way below the limits required.

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Do we know how we compare with other cities in Texas?

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Are we lower typically, or do we have that data?

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I do not know that question or the answer to that question.

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I'd have to do some research to see what other cities are doing, and a lot of cities

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get their water from surface water, ours coming from the ground. I don't know how that chemistry

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differs. I know in some parts of the country they have to add some chemicals to their water

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so it's not so corrosive. I think we're blessed in that sense where we're not required to do that

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because of the naturally occurring water and the pH that it's at whenever we pull it out

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of the ground. But I can do some research there and see and provide some information

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to counsel on that. I would just be curious, just roughly.

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On page six, so

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you're saying the lead is more soluble in acid water, 6.5 and lower. So the city

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of Bryant's 8.3 to 8.5? Yes. Okay are we measuring that on a consistent basis just

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in case? We're measuring that. All the tests that we have done, it's been

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in that range right there 8.3 to 8.5. It's been a little higher and it's

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It's not dropped below eight that I've seen.

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So are you adding to the pH like soda ash or anything like that?

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We're not adding anything.

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When it goes down or high or anything like that?

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We're not adding anything because it's been so consistent of where it's been.

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We're not having to add any chemicals to it.

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We pull the water out of the ground, we cool the water, we add chlorine to disinfect

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it, to get our residual, and we send it through the system.

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To

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recap, we have not yet found any cases of lead service lines in Bryant.

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I have not found any, throughout this inventory process, I have not found any lead service

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lines.

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We have found two, and I expect we will find more galvanized lines, or we have replaced

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our service line in the past.

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So our line was copper, the downstream side was galvanized.

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and I expect we will find more of those as we get more back into the older parts

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of town and where we have replaced our water line and service line. I expect that

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number will go up.

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All right anybody have any more questions? So just to recap the

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17,000 whatever number of customers will be getting letters very soon. So there's

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information there. If you hear of anything, information provides who they are to call.

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They have any questions and we have a website that provides information.

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Have the letters been drafted yet?

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The letters are drafted. You have that. It's basically a template. It's slightly modified

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from what the state provided us as a template. We have English on one side and Spanish

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on the other. The letter will go out as current resident, mailing, name, and then

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the address.

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The two that will not be mailed are going to be the galvanized

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requires replacement. I've asked staff to meet with those individually so they

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just not get a letter and not understand what we were doing.

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Very good.

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All right. Well thank you Dr. Parker. Thank you.

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All right that is all we have on the

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agenda so we're going to go ahead and adjourn and go upstairs.