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This is the city of Buckeye 38 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,240 Council meeting for Tuesday, April 21st, 39 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,840 2026. 40 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 We will get begin with the invocation 41 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,560 led by Pastor Rick Wilds from the First 42 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,879 Southern Baptist Church, followed by the 43 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:21,360 pledge led by Council Member Tony Yoner. 44 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Can we pray? Father God, we do come 45 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,440 before you tonight and we ask that you 46 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840 bless this time, Father, that you uh 47 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,599 provide protection during this time, 48 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:32,479 that you provide civility, that you give 49 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:34,320 guidance and wisdom so that the 50 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,839 decisions that are made will bring honor 51 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:39,120 and glory to you, but also bring um 52 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,519 success to our city. Please take care of 53 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:43,919 our council and lead them in Jesus name. 54 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:44,560 Amen. 55 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:48,560 >> Amen. Please join me in the pledgece 56 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:51,040 to the flag of the United States of 57 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,920 America and to the republic for it 58 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,040 stands. One nation under God, 59 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,680 indivisible with liberty and justice for 60 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:03,430 all. 61 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,200 » Okay, thank you both. Uh, can we have a 62 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,680 roll call, please? 63 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:08,800 >> Council member Yoner 64 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,320 >> here. Council member Barry 65 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,800 >> here. 66 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,959 >> Council member Hegestad 67 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:15,279 >> here. Council member Beard 68 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:15,680 >> present. 69 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,040 >> Council member Hustus 70 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,519 >> here. 71 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:18,560 >> Vice Mayor Goodman 72 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:19,760 >> present. 73 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,040 >> Mayor Osborne 74 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,720 >> present. Thank you very much. Item 75 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,160 number two is comments from the public. 76 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,680 Members of the audience may comment on 77 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:27,600 any non-aggenda item of interest. Do we 78 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,880 have any speaker request cards? 79 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,080 >> There are no speaker requests. 80 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,760 >> No speaker requests. On to item number 81 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,440 three, awards, presentations, and 82 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,040 proclamations. We do not have any for 83 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,519 tonight. We'll go to consent agenda 84 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:39,040 items and new business. Approval of 85 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,360 items on the consent agenda. All items 86 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,640 with an asterct are considered to be 87 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,399 routine matters be enacted by one motion 88 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:45,920 and vote of the city council. There be 89 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,360 no separate discussion of these items 90 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,440 unless a council member requests. The 91 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,880 section may include the approval of 92 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 minutes from previous meetings. Uh 93 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,760 council member Hagestad has declared a 94 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,160 conflict of interest on consent agenda 95 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 item number 4A. Uh and this item we're 96 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,839 going to pull off of the consent agenda 97 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:06,880 and hear that uh separately. Uh, so 98 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,959 council, uh, can I have a motion for the 99 00:10:08,959 --> 00:10:11,519 approval of the consent agenda items 4B 100 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,200 through 4P? 101 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,839 >> Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make the consent 102 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:17,360 agenda, 103 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,000 um, approval of items 4B 104 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,040 through 4P is in Paul. 105 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,920 >> Second. 106 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,480 >> I have a motion for approval and a 107 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,200 second for items 4B through 4P. All in 108 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,640 favor? I I 109 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,920 >> I 110 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 >> and opposed. 111 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,160 And uh that passes unanimous. Uh so 112 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,440 agenda item 4A. I I don't know that we 113 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,519 have um any request for comment on this. 114 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,480 We just want to take this separate from 115 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,399 uh from the rest of the consent agenda 116 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:54,800 item and hear this separate so that 117 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,600 we're respecting Councilman Hagstad's 118 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,440 uh conflict of interest. Any questions 119 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,160 from council on 4A? 120 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,760 I'm seeing none. Council, what's your 121 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,600 pleasure on agenda item 4 A? 122 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,640 >> Mr. Mayor, I'd like to move to approve 123 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,279 consent agenda item 124 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,680 4 A as drafted. 125 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:14,399 >> Second. 126 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,320 >> I have a motion for approval of 4 A and 127 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,680 a second. All in favor say I. 128 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:18,399 >> I. 129 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,480 And opposed. And 4 A passes 130 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,000 unanimous. 131 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Thank you. 132 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,200 uh agenda or let's see uh number five is 133 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,720 public hearings non-consent and new 134 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,680 business 5A council to take action to 135 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:35,200 adopt the airport master plan and 136 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,720 authorize staff to take all actions 137 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,399 necessary to submit the airport master 138 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:40,079 plan to the federal aviation 139 00:11:40,079 --> 00:11:43,360 administration for review and approval 140 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,959 and Mr. Scott Gray, you are presenting. 141 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:48,480 >> Good evening, mayor and council. Again, 142 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,480 I'm Scott Gray, your aviation director. 143 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,160 Pleased to be with you tonight to talk 144 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,519 about the airport master plan uh process 145 00:11:55,519 --> 00:12:01,350 and update. 146 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,279 Tonight, I'm going to cover a few items 147 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:05,040 uh tonight for you. Some of the airport 148 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,120 related studies kind of pairing off of 149 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,480 the workshop earlier this afternoon. uh 150 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,040 the purpose of the airport master plan, 151 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 recap of the previous uh concepts that 152 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,120 were brought to council back in 153 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,000 September of last year, some subsequent 154 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,279 feedback that we received on that plan, 155 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,200 revised recommendations for you to 156 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,519 consider tonight, and then outlining the 157 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:29,279 next steps on how the master plan will 158 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:33,269 be completed. 159 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:36,240 I want to touch upon uh three specific 160 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 uh plans that are underway. the airport 161 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,079 master plan, which is what we're talking 162 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:41,839 about here tonight and possible action. 163 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:44,560 This is an FAA required document, the 164 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,560 airport long range concept, and I'll 165 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:48,880 provide a little brief overview of that 166 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,360 um later in the presentation. That is a 167 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,440 city related document. And then lastly, 168 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,839 what you heard at the workshop earlier 169 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,000 today was the airport specific area 170 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 plan. You heard enough about that 171 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,920 earlier, so I won't spend much time on 172 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,230 that one. 173 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,320 Well, let's uh step back a moment and 174 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,880 talk about the specifics of the airport 175 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 master plan and its purpose. It is a 176 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 20-year capital development plan for the 177 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,839 airport. It is an FAA guided document. 178 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:22,079 It is a requirement for most public 179 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:25,200 airports to complete every 10 years. It 180 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,360 is used by the FAA to determine what's 181 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,760 eligible for funding and decision making 182 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,600 on which projects can move forward, etc. 183 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,079 Um, it does help us determine the extent 184 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:38,320 and type of development that'll happen 185 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,120 over a 20-year planning period. It is 186 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,480 focus on the approved 187 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,720 activity levels that the FAA approved 188 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,440 last year. Um, so it's not a visionary 189 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,399 document. It is a document based on 190 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,000 calculated facts on the number of 191 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,320 airplanes that we would likely see at 192 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,920 our airport under the current 193 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,519 conditions. 194 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:01,120 graphic you see on the right hand side 195 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,600 is the process that has been followed. 196 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,360 Um it it's broken into four separate 197 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,680 distinct areas and then there's a number 198 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,680 of public outreach processes that took 199 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:14,240 place in that. We are at the number four 200 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,639 or at the far end there um at the tail 201 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,560 end of the master plan and in looking 202 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:23,350 for your concurrence this evening. 203 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Just a moment on the recap of the 204 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,760 previous master plan. Um there were two 205 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,160 public meetings that were conducted. One 206 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,000 in September of 2024 and uh second one 207 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,519 in May of 25 where our consultants 208 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,760 provided uh information about all the 209 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,199 analysis that was conducted and 210 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:42,800 presented the graphic that you see there 211 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,199 on the right. There was a council 212 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:48,000 workshop in September where I presented 213 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 a very similar presentation to the night 214 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,040 of of what was recommended out of that 215 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,240 um planning effort. and and briefly it 216 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,279 was our current runway alignment 1735 217 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:03,279 was extended to 7,300 ft. There was a a 218 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:06,480 proposed crosswind runway of 6,000 ft 219 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,880 runway 1028 as you can see in the blue 220 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,360 on the bottom part of that graphic and 221 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 then the associated landside and hanger 222 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,600 developments that associated with the 223 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,360 amount of airplanes that we were 224 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,040 projected to have based at the airport 225 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,470 over that time. 226 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,000 of the subsequent feedback that we 227 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,120 received um after that 228 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 presented to the council was from some 229 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,079 adjacent property owners primarily 230 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:35,519 concerned with the impacts of a 231 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:38,399 crosswind runway on the adjacent uh 232 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,240 development potential roadway alignment 233 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,000 issues that may have to take place 234 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 depending upon the exact uh positioning 235 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 of that crosswind runway. So its impacts 236 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,480 to either Palivvery or Johnson Road. 237 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Um several additional concepts were also 238 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,639 um floated to the city for development 239 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:00,480 around the airport that there were 240 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,199 questions from those developers about 241 00:16:03,199 --> 00:16:06,800 how that crosswind runway may act their 242 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,279 uh potential development. 243 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:12,959 And then lastly is um limited FAA 244 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:15,199 support that we had throughout that 245 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:18,959 process for the crosswind runway and 246 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:21,360 potentially delaying the approval of the 247 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,160 master plan if FAA wasn't supportive of 248 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,320 that crosswind runway. 249 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,480 That's the kind of the synopsis of the 250 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,959 feedback that we received after we came 251 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:33,680 to council. What we did at that point 252 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 was u take a moment and and come up with 253 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 some criteria. How do we maybe step back 254 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,920 and re-evaluate what we did and what 255 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,759 we've heard 256 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:45,839 to number one better understand the 257 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:48,000 concerns of those property owners and 258 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,120 the developers. Um certainly be able to 259 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,360 meet the FA requirements for an approved 260 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,920 airport master plan. That is whole 261 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,759 purpose of doing the master plan is so 262 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,440 they will approve it so we will be 263 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,600 eligible for uh federal funding for 264 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,120 projects. 265 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,120 um make sure that we can meet the 266 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,280 forecast demand that was already 267 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,880 approved. 268 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,319 No changes to that. Um ultimately allow 269 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:14,720 for expansion beyond the 20 years. 270 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,799 Again, that's outside of the context of 271 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:19,199 the master plan. It would be a long 272 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:22,240 range vision. We expand beyond what the 273 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,480 master plan shows. 274 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,439 Then lastly is ensure that we're still 275 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:29,679 aligned with Luke Air Force Base's 276 00:17:29,679 --> 00:17:31,679 mission and the airspace study that 277 00:17:31,679 --> 00:17:37,110 we've already completed. 278 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,360 The recommendations that came out of 279 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,440 that re-evaluation was to remove the 280 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,720 crosswind runway for the master plan, 281 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,880 just the master plan at this point, and 282 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,160 widen the existing runway that was um 283 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,360 supported by the FAA to uh to make that 284 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,799 change. Um construct the runway existing 285 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:02,400 alignment still out to 7,300 feet. That 286 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,480 hasn't changed. And then obviously 287 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,559 because the crosswind runway is no 288 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,559 longer shown is adjust any landside 289 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:11,600 development um and based on that revised 290 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:18,870 runway layout. So taxiway connections. 291 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,880 This is what the the plan that you saw 292 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,240 that was on the right hand side of that 293 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,039 previous screen. This is the revised and 294 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:26,880 it's it's a little more difficult to see 295 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,480 this one. So on the next slides I'll 296 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,240 just go through the planning phases and 297 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,799 kind of show you those projects. the 298 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,039 general overview. 299 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:37,520 Um, but the master plan's broken into 20 300 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,160 years. It's fiveyear, fiveyear, and then 301 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,120 the final 10 year. And they're called uh 302 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:46,080 PALS or planning activity level. So 303 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,320 you'll see in the information you may 304 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,640 see years tied to some specific 305 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,840 projects. Um, that's just for sequencing 306 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,240 more than it is that specific year. It's 307 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,760 based on an activity level. So, if we 308 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,799 were to have more airplanes show up, we 309 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:04,640 would need to build more apron in order 310 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,880 to find a place for them to park. If 311 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,320 more airplanes show up, they may need 312 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,880 more hangers. So, um it's based on a 313 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 triggering aspect, not just the fact 314 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,039 that the year came and we should go 315 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:18,400 build it. This is the first five years 316 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 you can see in in this particular um 317 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:27,990 phase. Let me see if I can get the 318 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,520 Um you can see that there is red boxes 319 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,760 around some of the hangar development 320 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,919 areas. Um the one on the right is is 321 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:37,679 already moving forward. That one's under 322 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:39,440 lease and they'll be starting that 323 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,080 project here in the next month or so. Um 324 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,480 the other dotted lines is some areas 325 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,720 that we're um have got some expressed 326 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,120 interest to build some larger hangers. 327 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,559 And then you see in the blue in the 328 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:52,000 middle, that's the expansion of the 329 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,400 apron space for more parking to 330 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,480 facilitate those developments. And then 331 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,919 everything else that you see there is 332 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:00,559 relevant to airside, which is um the 333 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,240 runway extension that you can see um to 334 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,880 the north, not not all the way to Yuma 335 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,520 Road. That's an 800 foot city funded 336 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,520 project. You can see that the runway 337 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,679 widening is highlighted there. There's 338 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:15,520 lighting projects that are are moving 339 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,919 forward, taxiway pavement projects, 340 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:20,400 taxiway lighting, things of that nature, 341 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,039 all in that first phase. And those are 342 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:25,760 associated with triggers that some of 343 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,919 which we've already reached. Some of 344 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:29,440 those projects we would like to move 345 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000 forward quickly as possible assuming 346 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,799 there's funding available. 347 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,240 Next five years um is really looking at 348 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,600 um more of the landside development. 349 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480 can see the a acquisition of property. 350 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,840 We already have a a easement on FAA 351 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 although will accept easements. They do 352 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,120 like to see fe simple ownership of of 353 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,039 areas that would be encompassed by a 354 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,600 runway protection zone. We would explore 355 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,960 that and then there's some other 356 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,230 miscellaneous projects there as well. 357 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Lastly is the last 10 years. You can see 358 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,960 additional landside development 359 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,400 including some additional hangers and 360 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,840 apron space expansion etc. On the runway 361 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,480 you'll see um a other extension which is 362 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,440 in the red that is extending the runway 363 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,880 to the 7,300 ft. That does require 364 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,520 something to happen with Yuma Road. The 365 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,679 curve that you see there is the same 366 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:33,440 curve that's been presented in the 367 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,960 previous master plan in 1997 and 2008. 368 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,640 It's also what's currently in the 369 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,679 adopted transportation master plan. That 370 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:43,600 doesn't necessarily mean that's exactly 371 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,880 where it's going to go. There's still 372 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520 some more work that will be done um in 373 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600 conjunction with the PMO's office to 374 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 determine if there's other alternatives. 375 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,919 That could be tunneling, that could be a 376 00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:56,240 different location for that road, etc. 377 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,559 Um so it's shown on there. is because 378 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,480 that's in the adopted transportation 379 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,240 master plan, but that will still get 380 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,440 further analysis as we move forward with 381 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 that runway. You can see other pavement 382 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,799 work that's done there as well 383 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,480 to finish out the 20-year planning 384 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,870 period. 385 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Similar graphic to what you saw um last 386 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,240 time is the funding associated with 387 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,200 those various uh planning activity level 388 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840 periods. Um, and it's broken down into 389 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,640 the funding source. You will see this 390 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,880 particular 20-year plan is shown at 391 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,280 about $136 million. Um, last time I was 392 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,120 in front of you, September was about 393 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,600 $180 million. There was obviously the 394 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,120 crosswind runway and other components 395 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,080 that were included there. We're down to 396 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,679 $136 million. You can see that um 54 397 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:51,600 million of that is is eligible for 398 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,679 federal grants. Again, it's it's 399 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:55,120 eligible. Doesn't mean it will get 400 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,720 funded. It just means it would be 401 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,720 identified as being eligible if funding 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,880 were to become available. State funds 403 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,640 that would be from AOT of 5.4 million. 404 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,640 So the federal projects are a little 405 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,400 over 91% federal money and the 9% is 406 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,120 split between state and city. And then 407 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,840 state funded projects which are ADOT 408 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,159 grants are 90% state 10% city. 409 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:23,039 And so you add those matches up, you'll 410 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:26,960 see them in the city line along with um 411 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 whatever projects would be city-only 412 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,480 funded projects. So the runway shorter 413 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,360 runway extension in that first term and 414 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:40,559 then in the last term was a maintenance 415 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,280 been proposed for quite some time. Then 416 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,520 lastly is private that's all the private 417 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,320 hanger development. So the project 418 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,039 that's underway for the executive 419 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,960 hangers would fall under that and any 420 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 future 421 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,799 larger hangers would fall under that and 422 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,200 those are timed based on what the 423 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840 forecast proposed the amount of hanger 424 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:07,510 space that was needed. 425 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,159 » Before we go off of this slide, what is 426 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:15,760 the uh in 25 to 29 the 8.4 million 427 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000 uh city 428 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,120 So uh approximately 6.3 million of that 429 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,279 is for the 800 foot runway extension to 430 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,679 the north. And then the balance of that 431 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:28,640 would be um balance of that would be 432 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679 projects that would have grant matches. 433 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:33,440 So that would be what was listed on the 434 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440 planning activity level number one which 435 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,240 would be uh lighting drainage studies 436 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,400 tower sighting um 437 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,279 design work for the extension 438 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:49,350 tower designway 439 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:52,720 rehabilitation apron construction things 440 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,440 would be grant-f funed projects that 441 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,440 balance of that would match those other 442 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,240 grants. 443 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,039 >> Okay. Thank you. 444 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,440 And then same as I mentioned the larger 445 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,520 number for the long term was because 446 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:12,070 there was a a city only $5.4 million 447 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,720 post. It's shown as being city only. 448 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,320 There is a possibility there might be 449 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,039 grant funds. One thing I did want to 450 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:20,880 mention here, these are certainly only 451 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,760 cost estimates at this point and that 452 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,120 this um funding strategy is currently 453 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,279 not included in the city's capital 454 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,320 improvement program andor budget. Um and 455 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,640 it it's not reflected at this time. So, 456 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,000 if we were to move forward with the 457 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080 adoption of this, we would work closely 458 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,799 with the finance department to see about 459 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,840 having these projects added into the 460 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,679 capital improvement program, assuming 461 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,799 there's appropriate funding left or our 462 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:51,200 city match or city funded only. 463 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080 >> Is does that include the 6.3 million for 464 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 the 800 foot extension? I thought that 465 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 was 466 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,440 >> uh I thought that was included in our 467 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,400 CIP in the next project is there. There 468 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320 are a couple of the projects u mayor 469 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,640 that are included in the current but not 470 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,559 all of them that are listed that I 471 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:11,840 showed you in those three slides. 472 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,559 They're not all already morphed into our 473 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,240 current capital improvement. Okay. 474 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:23,909 >> We'll have to update that. 475 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:25,760 » The next steps on the airport master 476 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,360 plan um is to finalize the report based 477 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,360 on tonight's direction from council. 478 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,000 submit that to the FAA for review and 479 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120 approval. Um 480 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,640 the other studies that I mentioned, 481 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,840 these are the next steps on that 482 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,640 primarily focused on the airport long 483 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,200 range concept and that that is a city 484 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,520 document. We will be engaging in 485 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,520 additional analysis on the development 486 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,080 options beyond the master plan. So that 487 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,880 will look at different fleet mixes. So 488 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,360 the master plan fleet mix is primarily 489 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,039 general aviation and we extend foot on 490 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,679 the runway. We may see additional 491 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,360 corporate type airplanes be able to use 492 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,120 it because the runway is longer. It's a 493 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,520 safer environment for them. We'll go 494 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,360 beyond that in the long range plan and 495 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,080 look at um element options that were 496 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,880 already looked at and as well as others 497 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,600 to see what opportunities we have beyond 498 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,240 the 20-year planning period. We are 499 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,159 going to certainly do additional 500 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:26,640 stakeholder outreach, public meetings, 501 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,799 council workshop. We are doing a lot of 502 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,960 coordination with the airport specific 503 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,400 area plan team as well to get some 504 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,440 synergy of those efforts and obviously 505 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,600 bring that back to council for their 506 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,679 consideration. The timing is um for the 507 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,080 council consideration is we're looking 508 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,760 at July 7th meeting I think is the last 509 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 one before the summer break. 510 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,080 If we can get all of this information 511 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,159 condensed into this period of time and 512 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:58,559 all the necessary stakeholder outreach 513 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:02,240 to uh bring back some information 514 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,559 and then the specific area plan again 515 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,279 which you had all the details in in 516 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,840 today's workshop that has a slightly 517 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,760 different timeline but these two plans 518 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,520 will feed into that study for making 519 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,389 decisions about land use. 520 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:22,640 With that, uh, mayor, councel, um, staff 521 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,080 recommendation tonight is for the 522 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919 council to take action adopting the 523 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:27,600 airport master plan recommendations, 524 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840 directing staff to incorporate those 525 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,440 recommendations into the master plan 526 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080 report and submit it to the FAA for 527 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480 their duration. 528 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Happy to answer any questions. 529 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,919 >> Okay. Uh, questions from council. 530 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,120 >> Vice Mayor. 531 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640 >> Yeah, Scott, you had mentioned the FAA 532 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000 had concerns with the crosswind runway. 533 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,600 What were those? 534 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,000 >> Um when we did the um Vice Mayor um when 535 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,360 we did the first part of the analysis in 536 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 the alternatives analysis, 537 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,360 one of the first alternatives was to 538 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600 widen the runway and then there were 539 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,520 four alternatives for locations of that 540 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,760 crosswind runway. 541 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720 that first alternative was added based 542 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,360 on the FAA's initial um 543 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 direction from them was they weren't 544 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,760 sure they at this time they supported 545 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080 that crosswalk. 546 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,039 That said doesn't mean that won't 547 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,520 change. It just means under the current 548 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,679 conditions under the current forecasted 549 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:36,000 type of activity they were questioning 550 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,840 the need for that. So their 551 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,919 recommendation which comes out of uh one 552 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:42,000 of the FA guidance documents was to 553 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,159 widen the existing run which was now 554 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,159 included in these recommendations was to 555 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:48,640 do that. If the crosswind were to come 556 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,159 back under the long range analysis, um 557 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:53,520 then that's something that would have to 558 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,000 move forward with or without their 559 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,760 blessing, make decisions based on a 560 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080 city-f funded project. Would the FAA 561 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,679 fund that project because we have a 562 00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,520 change in fleet mix that would then 563 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,360 support that need, etc., etc. So, that 564 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600 will come later on. We're supposed to do 565 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,279 an airport master plan every 10 years. 566 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:13,840 So the previous one was done in 2008, a 567 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,679 little behind the curve, but I think 568 00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:18,480 we're ahead of our forecast already 569 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,200 activity. So we'll likely be doing 570 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 another master plan or at least what 571 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,120 they call a mini master plan is updating 572 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,200 the forecast and the fleet mix probably 573 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,480 in a five-year time. 574 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,840 >> So that think we'll see some of that 575 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,080 change to happen. 576 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,640 >> Thanks. So that crosswind run rate could 577 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200 come back at some point. 578 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,159 And then you also said a landowner had 579 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,799 some concerns. 580 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,960 So were those different than what the 581 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120 FAA's concerns were? 582 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,559 >> Yeah, the what the previous um plan had 583 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,559 showed the crosswind runway and then we 584 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,960 heard from land owners and developers 585 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,919 that that crosswind could impact their 586 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,600 development decisions. Um it also um 587 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,279 while it wasn't shown on that that 588 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,200 particular graphic I showed you, the 589 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 long range plan that was presented back 590 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,919 then also had some impacts to the 591 00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:16,080 roadways. So it moved their or both 592 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640 Johnson andor Palivver. So they 593 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,559 expressed concerns that that could 594 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,960 impact their decision to move forward 595 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,039 with projects either east or west of the 596 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,440 airport primarily. But then there we've 597 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,919 started to receive 598 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:31,679 information from property owners and 599 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,679 developers about parcels that are closer 600 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:35,039 into the airport that hey they're 601 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:36,240 looking at doing this. Hey, what 602 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,559 happened to the crosswind runway? That 603 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,039 going to happen or not? And the answer 604 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:43,039 at this point is is it's not included in 605 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,960 the master plan, but it will be analyzed 606 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,600 further in the 607 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,880 >> Very good. Thank you. 608 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240 >> Any questions from council? 609 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,559 uh the C I I thought the I thought we 610 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,760 had FAA's buy in on the crosswind that 611 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,159 was depicted on what you had shown just 612 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,080 a little while ago 613 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,159 based on the wind study that that was 614 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:13,039 done. Uh and and while the widening of 615 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,080 the runway was an option, it's not a 616 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,120 great option. Um, 617 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:26,159 and I thought they had buy in on that crosswind and being able to to 618 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,559 put that in to deal with the we don't 619 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,399 meet the the coverage for 620 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:35,360 uh pilots having the ability to to land 621 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,880 in windy conditions, crosswinds. 622 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,279 >> Mayor, thank you for that question. And 623 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,440 um 624 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,430 the FAA 625 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,399 questioned the need for the crosswind 626 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:53,840 runway all along. Um we moved forward 627 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,760 with the crosswind runway for some of 628 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,669 the things that you just 629 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:02,640 craft crosswinds 630 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,600 at by having that crosswind versus one 631 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,799 of the one of the things that the FAA 632 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,279 supports and it is in their document is 633 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,519 to widen the runway to meet crosswind 634 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,320 components. While that is an option 635 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,799 under the FAA guidance, it doesn't 636 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,760 really solve some of the problems, we 637 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,279 did do a full uh wind analysis both for 638 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,159 24-hour winds and daytime and nighttime 639 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:30,240 winds. Most of our activity is during 640 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,399 the day. And the daytime activity, um 641 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:36,559 there's a certain amount of wind 642 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,360 coverage you need to cover in order to 643 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,559 justify a cross. and we were just over 644 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,519 that line with the daytime but not the 645 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:49,679 24-hour time. So, um FAA was questioning 646 00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:52,240 whether or not that it was justified at 647 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,039 this moment. They said we could 648 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,360 certainly do the analysis of the 649 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240 crosswind which we did. Um and we opted 650 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320 to go with that alternative when we 651 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,279 presented that back in. 652 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,960 But that also then goes to at that time 653 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,079 did not have any 654 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:13,679 property owners and developers that 655 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,159 indicated that there was an issue that 656 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,399 crosswind runway and FA takes into 657 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:22,639 account public support of projects. So I 658 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,720 think after we've heard that information 659 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,879 that became another possible challenge 660 00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:29,280 that could delay us completing the 661 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,480 master plan and then jeopardize funding 662 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,679 because it's 663 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,320 >> right. So, I I think this has been one 664 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,079 of the most frustrating processes in the 665 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,320 history of frustrating processes at the 666 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,599 city. Uh I 667 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:46,879 I'm not going to say I started this with 668 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:48,800 a full head of hair because that's not 669 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,159 true, but I I think I'm going to lose 670 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:55,280 the last of it. Uh on on this process, 671 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,720 uh there's there is a U. So, I guess to 672 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,720 go back to to the master plan, it's a 673 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,880 very prescribed 674 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359 process that the FAA has that 675 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,040 essentially says whatever you have right 676 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,560 now from an air a fleet mix is 677 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,160 essentially what you're going to have. 678 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,280 And we're not going to contemplate 679 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520 anything outside of that unless 680 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,800 miraculously you can start landing 681 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,920 uh much much larger aircraft on the 682 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,560 facilities that we have right now. and 683 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,160 that's not going to happen because the 684 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,079 facilities that are needed for those 685 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:29,920 larger aircraft are not built and it's 686 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,520 the circular reference that we keep 687 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,280 going through. 688 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320 So the um 689 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680 I think my intent when we 690 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,200 rallied for kicking this entire thing 691 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,800 off a few years ago was let's just get 692 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640 something down on paper so that we can 693 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,680 take that out to the to the industry and 694 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,599 say this is what we want to be when we 695 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,400 grow up. And we get through that process 696 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,400 or started into that process and the FAA 697 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,599 says, "Well, you can't show that." Well, you can't you 698 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,839 can't show a crosswind runway that that 699 00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:05,760 is long that would accommodate larger 700 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,400 traffic that that we see in our future 701 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,040 here, which is cargo, the potential of 702 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,320 passenger traffic, potential military, 703 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,200 who knows what that is out there. 704 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,320 Um so we pivot to this idea of a um a 705 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440 long range plan 706 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,680 and and the idea was a master plan that 707 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,040 is essentially checking a box for FAA 708 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,119 although not completely necessary at 709 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:38,720 this time even though the one we have is 710 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,079 expired the the or it's it's old I guess 711 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,560 stale uh but we're not gaining really 712 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,800 anything in this new master plan that 713 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,960 wasn't already shown in the previous 714 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359 master plan. This is a half a million 715 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,920 dollar venture over three and a half 716 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,320 years. 717 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,720 So, um so in in that process, what we're 718 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,880 trying to do again is go back and show 719 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040 this is industry. This is what we're 720 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,040 looking to do. 721 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,800 We're limited to what we can do on the 722 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,000 existing runway alignment. 723 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,079 So, there's only so far we can extend 724 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:16,160 out. and you start to get into issues 725 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,320 with I 10 to the north. You have a canal 726 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,079 that's to the south. 727 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,640 >> So there's and the the land that's up to 728 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,320 the north is much more expensive than 729 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,880 something that is sorry council member 730 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200 that that is in the middle of a field 731 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,040 that is south of and not near uh the the 732 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,480 u freeway. So, we started kicking around 733 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,480 ideas that plus the the crosswing 734 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,079 component started kicking around ideas 735 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:47,119 of what if we came up with a uh and your 736 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:48,880 conversation about if if we do extend 737 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,880 past Yuma Road, how do we deal with Yuma 738 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,880 Road? Is it a um is it the Wowee that we 739 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,640 show on the road right now or is it a 740 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,480 tunnel? 741 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440 We will not be building a tunnel. I'm 742 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,599 not going to approve a tunnel, the 743 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,040 funding for a tunnel for Yuma Road. 744 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,079 So the ideas kicked around were, well, 745 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,839 maybe we do a crosswind runway that 746 00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:14,320 gives us more room to build out a longer 747 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,280 facility that accommodates 748 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440 cargo that could be going to Asia that 749 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,960 needs much longer runways, 750 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,119 buying less expensive property, getting 751 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,599 rid of the hindrances that we have in 752 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:29,839 either a canal to the south or a freeway 753 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:33,359 to the north. Uh, and then take that 754 00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,440 idea and and it gives us that crosswind 755 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,079 component also that we need so that 756 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,680 smaller traffic when they're coming in 757 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,359 are not having to deal with a stiff 758 00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:42,960 crosswind which makes our airport 759 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,119 essentially unusable at certain times. 760 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,440 And then go through and do this entire 761 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,880 uh planning airspace planning with Luke 762 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,240 Air Force Base. Make sure that we're not 763 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,880 jamming them up and that uh and we're 764 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,119 being really really good neighbors. In 765 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:00,640 that discussion, Luke says, "Actually, 766 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,079 if you turn it the other way, that might 767 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:07,280 be better for us." So, a 1028, which I 768 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,320 think is what was depicted on this. 769 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,680 Uh, and and then so we've we've cleared 770 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,119 that hurdle and there's there's not many 771 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:18,880 property owners. There's one property 772 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,079 owner that is kicking back and saying, 773 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,800 "Please do not aim runways directly at 774 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,880 buildings that we're contemplating 775 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,560 building. 776 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,800 So, I just I want to be super clear on 777 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,760 all of the the details of this. It's it 778 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400 is a crosswind runway that we're trying 779 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480 to stick in. That is a much longer 780 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,599 facility than the 6300 or whatever it 781 00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,280 was that was shown on. That's the long 782 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520 range vision that we're trying to get 783 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,599 to. That's separate from what we're 784 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,640 going to approve tonight. 785 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,640 Uh but but that that crosswind 786 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,720 can be several different areas. That's 787 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,000 this long range vision that you're going 788 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,839 through is going to contemplate these 789 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:03,680 and and study these different 790 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,440 potentials. It could be a slightly 791 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000 turned so it's not pointing at at uh 792 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040 buildings. There's there's a there's a 793 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,440 lot of opportunity to deconlict and take 794 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,359 care of the one property owner that has 795 00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:17,440 an issue. The property owners to the 796 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,160 east have no idea what our plan is. We 797 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,599 haven't really taken that out on the 798 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,640 road and said we're we're potentially 799 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640 aiming 800 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,880 um a runway at development that you have 801 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,480 on the east side of the property. Uh and the Johnson and Paulie, we can deal 802 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,119 with that as it comes. That's not a 803 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:43,760 those aren't game stoppers for us. So, 804 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,680 um, 805 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,359 again, just frustrating, probably just 806 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:49,280 more venting than everything, but we're 807 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,510 going to approve this, which 808 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,200 has to be done at this point. Um, but we 809 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,440 have to go immediately into figuring out 810 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920 what our long range vision is. We talked 811 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,760 about this at our workshop earlier which 812 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,000 is uh we we have got to start showing 813 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,040 what the impact of these runways in this 814 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200 facility is on the surrounding 815 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,640 communities so that we can let the 816 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,160 property owners aside know do not build 817 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,240 residential or do not build data centers 818 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,240 in this area. Do not build some other 819 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,040 very specific things in the approach or 820 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,520 the departure corridor of these runways. 821 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,599 uh otherwise folks are going to enclose 822 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,359 on us and we're going to miss a 823 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,680 tremendous opportunity to realize the 824 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,440 full potential of the Buckeye airport 825 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,040 and and that window is closing 826 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,599 every day. We're talking with developers 827 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,920 this afternoon about plans that they 828 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,240 have for the eastern edge of the 829 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,359 airport. So, it is it is it's important 830 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:56,319 that we pass this, 831 00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:58,319 but it is incredibly important that we 832 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:01,359 move fast on figuring out what our long 833 00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:03,520 range vision is. 834 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,920 Uh, and and we cordon off the area 835 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,680 around the airport in this airport 836 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,880 specific area plan and go so that we 837 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,359 don't lose the opportunity to grow the 838 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:16,640 Buckeye airport in into the economic 839 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,079 engine that it's going to be in the 840 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:19,839 future. 841 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:23,440 Uh, I I I just want to make sure we're 842 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,599 ultra clear on here's here's the 843 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,319 specifics of of where we're at with the plan. Here's here's why we're not 844 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,560 showing a crosswind right now because 845 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,079 we're trying to honor what is happening 846 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,960 on one landowner that is on the western 847 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,560 edge of the uh the airport. 848 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,240 So, 849 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,440 uh we're going to work through that 850 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,720 process with them and see how we can 851 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,680 deconlict that. Um but but it isn't as 852 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,560 dire as the whole crosswind runway idea 853 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,599 or concept goes away. And if you if we 854 00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,359 show this and we take this out to 855 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,920 industry, whoever that is, whether it's 856 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,400 a a cargo company or it's um passenger 857 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,560 traffic or it's military or whoever is 858 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,839 looking for a new location to land. Uh 859 00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:14,079 that's where we start working into 860 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,560 incredible opportunities to not not only 861 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,599 to to site uh companies out this way but 862 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,119 also share in the cost of the 863 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,800 infrastructure because we are not going 864 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,839 to be building uh the um the 140 or 200 865 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,839 or whatever the the millions of dollars 866 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:33,760 worth of infrastructure there is. Um so 867 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,119 I think I'm done with that little hissy 868 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,599 fit, but we we have we have got to giddy 869 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:43,760 up on this. We are out of time. 870 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,480 Uh council on uh agenda item 5A, what is 871 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160 your pleasure? 872 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,319 >> Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion 873 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,760 that we approve agenda item 5A as an 874 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,480 Adam. 875 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,480 >> Second. 876 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,400 >> Have a motion for approval for agenda 877 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400 item 5A and a second. All in favor say 878 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,720 I. 879 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,240 >> I. I. 880 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,400 >> Opposed? 881 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,640 5 A passes. 5B. Council hold public 882 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,000 hearing to take action on Orange number 883 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,920 11-26 approving an amendment to the 884 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,599 Sundance Community Master Plan as 885 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:18,710 described in case PLZZ-25-000012 886 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,319 and amending the zoning map of the city 887 00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:22,319 of Buckeye for approximately 8.3 acres 888 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,319 located west of the southwest corner of 889 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:27,359 Yuma Road and Dean Road from commercial 890 00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:30,240 center CC to commercial center CC with 891 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,880 Sundance Community uh master plan 892 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,640 overlay. 893 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,839 Mandy, you are up. 894 00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:39,280 >> Good evening, mayor, members of the 895 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,440 council. My name is Mandy Woods and I'm 896 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,119 a principal planner with development 897 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:44,960 services. 898 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,599 Tonight, I will be presenting case PLZ25 899 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:58,550 0012 900 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,030 to this. This is 901 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,480 Oh, it worked. 902 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,240 It just doesn't like me. Um, so for the 903 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,240 project overview, the applicant on this 904 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,800 is Jeffrey Blighty with Gilbert Blly on 905 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,839 behalf of Yuma 906 00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,079 LLC, which is the property owner. The 907 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,560 location is west of the southwest corner 908 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,520 of Yuma Road and Dean Road. Um, two 909 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,119 parcels 910 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,599 and um that location will be delineated 911 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,480 on the exhibit on the next slide. And 912 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,800 the overall request is to amend the 913 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000 Sundance Community Master Plan or CMP to 914 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,280 include 8.3 acres as a commercial land 915 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,599 use designation 916 00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,440 purpose of a multif family residential 917 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,470 development. 918 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,720 Site context. Um you can see the subject 919 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,880 property is outlined in red on that 920 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,839 slide. Currently a vacant property. To 921 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:57,839 the north we have Wind Village 922 00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,920 residential and then we have vacant 923 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,640 auxiliary field 924 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,880 landing area 925 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,440 south and then to the west we have 926 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,920 residential single family community um 927 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,359 Sundance and to the east is commercial 928 00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:16,560 civic services um library the Coyote 929 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,710 branch 930 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:28,230 and then for the general land 931 00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:31,520 note is that this land use designation 932 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520 is typically intended for community 933 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,990 master plans or plan developments 934 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,480 for the existing zoning of the property. 935 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,280 This is um commercial center and then 936 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920 the proposed zoning of the property that 937 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,680 commercial center is not changing but we 938 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640 are proposing to expand the the boundary 939 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680 of the Sunday overlay to cover this 940 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,430 property. So the request just 941 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,760 the land use exhibit that you see up on 942 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,839 the slide. It's a big one because it's 943 00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:09,599 encompassing the entire Sundance. 944 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,319 See the the subject property is outlined 945 00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:13,839 red and there's a leader coming off of 946 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:18,960 it that is subject of this 947 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,240 area parcel 34. 948 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:25,760 The proposed CMPA 949 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,839 is a major amendment um because there's 950 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:33,750 land that's being added to this CMP. 951 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,240 It includes the inclusion of um 8.3 952 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,400 acres as I stated. Um so this becomes 953 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,280 the new parcel 34C and it will be 954 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,440 assigned a commercial land use. I want 955 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,520 to clarify this is commercial land use 956 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,960 as described in the Sundance CMP. Um and 957 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,960 that commercial designation in the 958 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,440 Sundance scene allows for more 959 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000 credentials. That is the reason 960 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,839 particular land use within the CMP. 961 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:02,400 Um it's generally pretty good planning 962 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,640 practice to have kind of cohesive zoning 963 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,280 across a project site. And so since the 964 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,119 intent for parcel 34C is to develop with 965 00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:14,960 the adjacent parcel to the west par 34B, 966 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,040 um that is one of the reasons that staff 967 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,319 was supportive of expanding the the CMP 968 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:21,599 overlay to have a little bit more 969 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:28,079 cohesiveness in the the zoning of the ultimate project that will be here. 970 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,480 Um but right now it's proposed to 971 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,119 include a total of 188 multif family 972 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,680 residential units. Um, I did want to 973 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,640 note that multifamily residential is an 974 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,800 allowed use in the current commercial 975 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,640 center zoning for the property right 976 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,960 now. Right now, it could develop with 977 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,680 multif family residential, albeit at a a 978 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,160 slightly lower density. Um but the 979 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640 benefit of including this within the 980 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,680 unance CMP setbacks will be more 981 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,790 compatible with the adjacent single 982 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,160 bringing it in. 983 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000 Um continuing on to kind of the impact 984 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,880 of the the overall CMP the total number 985 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,599 of planned units for the overall CMP is 986 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,720 increasing from 6798 987 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:17,280 to 6,954. 988 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,880 Um there is a current CMP maximum of 989 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960 6,933 990 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,599 which is less than the total number of 991 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,760 units and we wanted to keep the the 992 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,839 impact of this specific to just this 993 00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:31,280 parcel and not have wide reaching 994 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,240 impacts on the entirety of the CMP. So 995 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,160 this particular amendment request 996 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,240 includes an exception that would allow 997 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,400 an additional 21 units would be 998 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,079 restricted to partial 34. 999 00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,240 Um, and then the overall density with 1000 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,480 the inclusion of this parcel keeps it at 1001 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,160 about 3.42, which is well on target with 1002 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,079 the CMP target density. 1003 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,839 And then kind of the final primary 1004 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:01,760 component of this CMP amendment request. 1005 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,240 As with all of our community master 1006 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,440 plans and our PADS, oftentimes they 1007 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,359 include modified provisions or kind of 1008 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,920 customized development standards. And in 1009 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,480 this case, this request includes a 1010 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,400 modified building height step down 1011 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,920 provision. 1012 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,760 The way that it works with just kind of 1013 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,280 our base code standard is the height of 1014 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,040 each multifamily residential building 1015 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,760 that's taller than 35 ft. In theory, 1016 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,640 likely taller than three stories, has to 1017 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,520 be stepped down one full story on any 1018 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,119 end of that building that's located 1019 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,760 within 50 ft of an adjacent area that's 1020 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,559 zoned for residential use. uh as well as 1021 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,079 anything that's used for residential 1022 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,200 use. And in this particular case, um for 1023 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,079 parcel 34C, there is an adjacent 90 foot 1024 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:52,240 wide residentially zoned tract that is 1025 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,480 used for um it's just anway tract. It's 1026 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,000 a wash corridor. It's never going to be 1027 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,000 developed with 1028 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040 residential use. And so the the 1029 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,000 provision for that in this amendment 1030 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640 request includes um just a slight tweak 1031 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,880 to the wording where that 50 foot 1032 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,480 Step down provision would be measured 1033 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,359 from the nearest property line of a 1034 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:23,430 single family resident. 1035 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,440 The public participation component of 1036 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,599 this included a neighborhood meeting 1037 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,599 which was of this year held at the 1038 00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,880 Coyote branch library location so very 1039 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,200 close to the site. The attendees 1040 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,200 included the project team of course um 1041 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:47,030 city staff one and then was one 1042 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,040 all notices required for this caseed in 1043 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,880 accordance with our development code 1044 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,880 requirements. 1045 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,520 There were no speakers in the public at 1046 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,960 the planning and zoning commission 1047 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,549 public hearing for this 1048 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,960 um for future development. The there is 1049 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,680 a companion site plan request that is in 1050 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,559 for review right now. Um it includes two 1051 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,720 and threetory kind of garden style or 1052 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,119 residential buildings, the clubhouse and 1053 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,150 a 1054 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,960 there is um traffic impact analysis that 1055 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,880 was submitted and approved with this 1056 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,800 CMPA component has already been done and 1057 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,839 then uh there's confirmed water and 1058 00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:33,680 sewer capacity for the very small 1059 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,559 increase residential units and there's 1060 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,160 no development agreement updated 1061 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:44,470 thatired as a result of this. 1062 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880 for um emergency services and schools. 1063 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,400 The property of course will be serviced 1064 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,640 by city fire and police and the 1065 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960 applicant did fulfill their requirements 1066 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,200 by doing the adequate school facilities. 1067 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,440 Notable 1068 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:06,150 high schools district and 1069 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,680 then just to conclude the analysis on 1070 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,359 this uh staff believes that this does 1071 00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:12,160 further goals of our general plan. It 1072 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480 conforms to our development code and or 1073 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480 proposes some alternate standards that 1074 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,640 will result in high quality development 1075 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,190 and there are no outstanding issues 1076 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520 for the recommendation. U recommendation 1077 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,640 is to conduct a public hearing and then 1078 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,040 ordinance approving this case and I 1079 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,559 wanted to note that the applicant is 1080 00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,280 also here 1081 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,800 arise. Thank you. 1082 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,480 >> Okay. Thank you Mandy. Uh we'll start 1083 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,920 with a public hearing. We'll open a 1084 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160 public hearing. Do we have any speaker 1085 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,079 request cards for agenda item 5B? 1086 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:45,599 >> There are no speaker requests. 1087 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,720 >> No speaker request cards. We will close 1088 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,520 public hearing. Uh council, any 1089 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,599 questions on agenda item 5B? 1090 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,480 >> I have one. Uh 1091 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,640 to the south of that wash, there's a 1092 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,800 little walking track where the community 1093 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,400 uses that walking track. Is that going 1094 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,800 to still be available to the public? 1095 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:13,109 Yeah, you can go back to it. 1096 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,480 So, right there in the green where it's 1097 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,319 highlighted in the green, there's a 1098 00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:18,000 walking track right there. You can see 1099 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,559 where it comes off of Puma and that 1100 00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:21,920 little walkway. 1101 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,240 >> Yes. 1102 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,440 >> And it goes it goes uh it goes west and 1103 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,040 east and there's a little walking track 1104 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,800 that the uh community used. We just want 1105 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,640 to make sure we maintain that because 1106 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,640 it's it's used a lot. Every morning I 1107 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,760 see a group of people walking through 1108 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,480 there. 1109 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,079 >> Thank you for the question. Um the 1110 00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,920 request tonight does not 1111 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,839 the walking path that's within that HOA 1112 00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:42,240 tract. 1113 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,800 >> Okay. Thank you. 1114 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,280 >> Okay. Any other questions for council? 1115 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,280 >> Council, what's your pleasure? 1116 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960 >> Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we 1117 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,520 approve agenda item 5B as in boy. 1118 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,160 >> Second. 1119 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,839 >> I have a motion and a second to approve 1120 00:54:57,839 --> 00:55:00,400 agenda item 5B. All in favor say I. 1121 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,240 >> I. 1122 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,200 >> And opposed. 5B passes unanimous. Thank 1123 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,119 you, Mandy. 1124 00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:08,960 5C. Council state excellent on 1125 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,359 resolution number 39-26 approving 1126 00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:13,280 intergovernmental agreement number 1127 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,829 26-001579-I 1128 00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:19,200 between the state of Arizona acting 1129 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,640 through its department of transportation 1130 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,480 the city of Buckeye and Arizona 1131 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,160 Municipal Corporation establishing a 1132 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,680 funding mechanism to provide 1133 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,280 reimbursement to the city for certain 1134 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,160 staffing costs incurred in conjun uh 1135 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,319 connection with its participation in the 1136 00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:34,079 construction of the Jackrabbit Trail 1137 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,400 traffic interchange and associated work 1138 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,480 on the Interstate 10 I 10 widening 1139 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,960 project and authorizing the city manager 1140 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,119 to execute and deliver set agreement and 1141 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,040 any related documents on behalf of the 1142 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,599 city of Buckeye. Mr. John Willillet 1143 00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,319 may council audience is one of the few 1144 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:53,599 times I actually get to come up here and 1145 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:54,960 be excited about talking about a 1146 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,599 project. those who are aware, we've been 1147 00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:59,760 working with ADOT for I'll say a few 1148 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,920 days to try to get this interchange 1149 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,799 constructed and this is now actually 1150 00:56:04,799 --> 00:56:07,040 about going to the very next phase and 1151 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,480 bringing it to reality. So what ADOT has 1152 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,240 done is they have selected what's called 1153 00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,480 the construction manager risk means they 1154 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,640 pre-select a contractor. They bring him 1155 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,880 in to start working on the final design 1156 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200 and making comments. I will give ADOT 1157 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,599 some kudos here. They actually took the 1158 00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:26,480 initiative and combined the I 10 Jackar 1159 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040 rabbit trail traffic interchange and the 1160 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,160 I 10 widening project that was going to 1161 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,040 add the fourth lane on I 10 from S85 to 1162 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,640 loop through three combined it into one 1163 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,520 project. They saw the foresight because 1164 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,079 both projects impacted the jack rabbit 1165 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,960 trail ramps on I 10. Well, the 1166 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,920 construction manager risk method allows 1167 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,960 them to do this and is ADOT a mechanism 1168 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,280 to build the project in phases. We can 1169 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,280 do phase one, phase two. ADOT calls it a 1170 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160 GMP phase. That's what this allows us to 1171 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,559 do. So the key thing about this is now 1172 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:02,640 we will have a seat at the table. We get 1173 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,960 to be involved during discussions with 1174 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,760 the contractor and ADOT and how things 1175 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480 may or may not move forward. First time 1176 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,000 Buckeye has been involved in this. So 1177 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,559 it's kind of actually is not kind of it 1178 00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,799 really is new to us. But what's the 1179 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,960 city's role? We will be in the meetings 1180 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,000 sneak at the table reviewing 1181 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,680 guarantee maximum price like the bottom 1182 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,400 button says that the contractor is going 1183 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,680 to submit. They're going to build phase 1184 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,559 one for X dollars. We will have a say 1185 00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,400 and are those prices seem reasonable or 1186 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440 not. You support ADOT by addressing city 1187 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,880 related projects. I'm kind of working 1188 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,079 uphill on the bullet items. 1189 00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:42,400 Contractor has questions. We ask we 1190 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,640 provide input. Do things like that. We 1191 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,240 give them answers. So, what are we 1192 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,400 helping with? Quality, project timing, 1193 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,480 and resident impact to make sure this is 1194 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,480 actually an overall a good project for 1195 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,960 the Buckeye community. Um, key benefits, 1196 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,160 it allows us, this this provides a 1197 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,920 funding mechanism, and this is what's 1198 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,160 unique. All the time and effort we spend 1199 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,000 working on this project, answering 1200 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,920 questions, doing some research, 1201 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,119 providing information. This allows ADOT 1202 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,640 to fund us back for our time. This is 1203 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,200 what's new. So, for example, on the IT 1204 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,040 10 widening that happened and finished a 1205 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,200 few years ago, all the time and effort 1206 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,720 spent by myself and our staff in 1207 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,799 meetings, that was just time the city 1208 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:31,599 ate. This is an ability for us to be 1209 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,160 reimbursed back from ADOT for that 1210 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,720 effort. Allows us to have a proactive 1211 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,720 role or voice in discussion of regional 1212 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,680 stuff especially relates to IT 10. Um it 1213 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,119 helps us keep our interest leveraged 1214 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,480 when working with ADOT and it allows us 1215 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,400 to stay involved in a lot of decision- 1216 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,599 making. 1217 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,200 ADOT has created a bucket, so to speak, 1218 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,319 of reimbursing us $350,000 a year, and 1219 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:02,160 this is for two years. It's for the IT 1220 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,160 10 widening part, but more importantly, 1221 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,520 the first phase, which is the Jack 1222 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,599 Rabbit TI. And with that, I will answer 1223 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:12,079 none of the questions you will have. 1224 00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:15,839 >> Any questions from council? 1225 00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:16,640 >> Go ahead, 1226 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,720 >> John. So with this IGA AOT has already 1227 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,200 approved this. So now it's on our side 1228 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,480 to approve it. 1229 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,880 >> Actually uh council or vice mayor it is 1230 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,480 actually we're the first ones. Way ADOT 1231 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,799 works is we approve it first and then 1232 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:33,040 they approve it. But we they provided a 1233 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,880 draft to us. We reviewed it. Legal 1234 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,119 reviewed it. We kicked back comments. 1235 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,240 They gave it back. We gave it back. 1236 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,160 Finally got to a finished agreement on 1237 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,839 what all the verbiage is. And once we 1238 00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:45,839 approve it, we'll kick it to ADOT. 1239 00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:47,119 they'll approve it and send it right 1240 00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:48,880 back and then I send it to Summer and 1241 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,720 she does her magic. 1242 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,200 >> Okay. So, just to summarize that 1243 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,319 pingpong tournament you just highlighted 1244 00:59:58,319 --> 00:59:59,599 >> that we won. 1245 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:03,040 >> Yeah. So, we approved this. It goes to 1246 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,559 ADAT. They've already approved the 1247 01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:06,079 language and they'll do their thing and 1248 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:06,799 we're good to go. 1249 01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:07,440 >> Yes, sir. 1250 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,559 >> All right. Thank you. 1251 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:14,799 >> Thank you, Mr. Willlet. Uh I just for 1252 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,880 the benefit of the public maybe a little 1253 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,880 bit on the agreement and what we're 1254 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,079 attempting to get out of this with ADOT. 1255 01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,760 Uh the the project is uh kind of complex 1256 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,520 but it's actually really simple. There 1257 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,920 are two main components to it. One is 1258 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,280 the Jackrabbit trail traffic interchange 1259 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,040 and if we can get funding in the budget 1260 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,359 uh the governor's budget currently does 1261 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:43,359 not provide funding for I 10 uh but the 1262 01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:45,520 legislature their budget does include 1263 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,119 funding for I 10. If we can get the 1264 01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,200 funding at least the first phase of the 1265 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,000 I 10 widening these two projects will go 1266 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,040 at one time. and we had a conversation 1267 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,799 with ADOT about what we would like to 1268 01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:00,319 see in in the I10 widening. Can you 1269 01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:02,319 maybe go through some of those bullet 1270 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:04,559 points and what we're really excited 1271 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,680 about and really do not care uh is is in 1272 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,559 that first phase and really our attempt 1273 01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,440 to maximize lane miles and the benefit 1274 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,119 to the traveling public. 1275 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:17,119 >> Sure thing, mayor. So caveat to kind of 1276 01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,760 go with that. The Jack Rabbit TI 1277 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,720 construction is funded by Prop 439. The 1278 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,240 money to build the interchange is there. 1279 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,319 It's earmarked. It's moving forward. 1280 01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:28,000 What you're mentioning is about the I 10 1281 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,359 widening project is a legislative 1282 01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:33,599 earmark, so to speak. It came from the 1283 01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,839 state legislature and that is currently 1284 01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:37,680 phased over several years because they 1285 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,079 don't have all the money to do it today. 1286 01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:43,280 They have initially allocated a certain 1287 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,440 dollar amount and the goal was to 1288 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,200 combine that with some money that the 1289 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,359 city and MAG had to bring to the table 1290 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:52,480 and do what as you mentioned phase one 1291 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,160 of the IT 10 widening back up a smidge. 1292 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,880 The Seymar process allows ADAT to do 1293 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,559 exactly what they want to do and that's 1294 01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,319 phases project. So if they only have 1295 01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:04,400 money for part of IT 10 widening, they 1296 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,119 can combine that with a TI and do that 1297 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:10,079 and then legislator provides funding in 1298 01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:14,240 28 27 they can do another what they call 1299 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,200 GMP phase and do some more widening and 1300 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,720 then when they get the remaining balance 1301 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,640 they do another GMP phase and phase 1302 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,640 finish the rest. So, as you mentioned, 1303 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,799 what we're trying to get ADOT to do is 1304 01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:26,400 >> for the record, is is that the most 1305 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,000 efficient way to do construction 1306 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,839 projects 1307 01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,079 >> for for this unique project, it's 1308 01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,280 actually not bad. 1309 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,880 >> It's actually pretty good. 1310 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,119 >> There's no way it makes sense to split 1311 01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:38,400 up a 1312 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,599 >> year and a half project into 1313 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,599 >> but since the funding is coming in 1314 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,280 several the other option is you got to 1315 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,880 wait till all the money's available. So, 1316 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,280 nothing happens till 29. So, at least 1317 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,520 this way we're going to get it in small 1318 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,440 pieces chunks. will be in construction 1319 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,040 for or four years, 1320 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:53,520 >> right? 1321 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,160 >> As opposed to build the TI, wait three 1322 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,079 years, and then go back and work on the 1323 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,480 exact same ramps that the TI did and do 1324 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,720 it all over again. So, there is some 1325 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,400 benefit to bring in the widening part 1326 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,480 and do it in phases. I said, I'll give 1327 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,280 ADOT a little bit of kudos. Um, but to 1328 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,640 talk about what you'd mentioned, what's 1329 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,240 going to be done phase one, and that the 1330 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,400 goal is we'd like to get the fourth lane 1331 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,480 added on 910 from Verado to the 303. The 1332 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,400 lane only the lane not necessarily all 1333 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,319 the sound walls 1334 01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:26,000 the roadway lighting that there's 1335 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,079 nothing out there today it's functioned 1336 01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:30,319 without it for years can we at least get 1337 01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:32,799 enough pavement to add the fourth lane 1338 01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:34,880 I'll say tomorrow 1339 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,720 then bring the extra stuff when that 1340 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,200 phase 2 money is available that's what 1341 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,880 you and I and others at the city have 1342 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,039 met with ADOT had proposed 1343 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:45,200 >> and it it 1344 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,280 probably does there's going to be plenty 1345 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,520 of money to do one lane. If we're only 1346 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,000 talking one lane from 1347 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,839 uh Citrus to Verado, I think the intent 1348 01:03:55,839 --> 01:03:59,119 is let's make that lane go as far west 1349 01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:02,240 as we can. Uh and then maybe take some 1350 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,559 of that money and because this is a a 1351 01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,760 Seymar project, 1352 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,520 uh and ADOT can divvy this up however 1353 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,440 they want to. It's making that lane go 1354 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,599 as far as it can and then it's 1355 01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:16,079 potentially intersection or off-ramp 1356 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,960 improvements at Watson and Miller that 1357 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,640 make it a much safer condition getting 1358 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,920 off uh in the afternoons coming home or 1359 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,240 getting on the uh the freeway and in the 1360 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,839 mornings heading in. So there's it's not 1361 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,480 just let's get the one lane in from 1362 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,640 Citrus to Verata Way. is trying to 1363 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,480 maximize 1364 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:44,720 the dollars that have been allocated and get as much relief for the traveling 1365 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,839 public as we can. And that's I think the 1366 01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:49,760 intent of this. We said we want to be a 1367 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,559 part of this. be in the conversation so 1368 01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:55,520 that um you're not just going out and 1369 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,160 building full freeway improvements from 1370 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,319 Citrus to Broadway, which is 27 or $30 1371 01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:05,359 million with sound walls and lighting 1372 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:06,880 and 1373 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,319 all the other gingerbread that comes 1374 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:11,520 with it. It is lanes for the traveling 1375 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:16,240 public to um ease that commute. 1376 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,440 >> Correct. Yeah, mayor. That's correct. 1377 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,200 That's exactly what we'd like them to 1378 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,640 do. this mechanism, this allows us to 1379 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,960 have a voice at the table and encourage 1380 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,119 that loudly, 1381 01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:27,440 >> right? 1382 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,079 >> As opposed to, "All right, yeah, thanks. 1383 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:31,200 We're we're moving forward." We'll 1384 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,280 actually be at the table and pushing and 1385 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,839 saying, "Hey, we really need this," 1386 01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:37,599 >> or or not being at the table and then 1387 01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,760 have them come up with here's what the 1388 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,359 plan is and it's already in motion and 1389 01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:44,240 we have no say. So, we get a beautiful 1390 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,039 freeway from Citrus to Verataway and 1391 01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:48,880 then nothing west of there. 1392 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,760 >> Yes, sir. Okay. All right. 1393 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,359 Uh, beat that horse. Okay. So, um, 1394 01:05:55,359 --> 01:05:59,520 council for agenda item 5 C. What is 1395 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,039 your pleasure? 1396 01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:02,799 >> Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we 1397 01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:04,559 approve 1398 01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:09,200 agenda item 5 C is in Charles. Second. 1399 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,680 >> I have a motion for approval of 5C and a 1400 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,280 second. All in favor say I. 1401 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,960 >> I. 1402 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,680 >> And opposed. 5C passes unanimous. 5D. 1403 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,000 Thank you, Mr. Willlet. 5D council to 1404 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,319 take action on resolution number 38-26 1405 01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:24,079 establishing new or increased municipal 1406 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,400 fees, establishing an effective date, 1407 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,160 repealing conflicting resolutions, and 1408 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,640 providing for severability. And Mr. 1409 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,400 Brian Craig, you're presenting. 1410 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,760 >> Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and 1411 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,240 Council. This is the successive 1412 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,799 presentation and action to the workshop 1413 01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:41,200 we had in December on development and 1414 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,079 other related user fees at the city. um 1415 01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:45,920 development services fees, community 1416 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,760 services fees, some public works fees 1417 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,839 and aviation fees are being considered 1418 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,160 tonight. These are unique from impact 1419 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,960 fees. Uh impact fees are related to the 1420 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,559 impact on our services and our 1421 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,400 infrastructure. User fees are more about 1422 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,319 the impact on our resources in 1423 01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:03,440 particular staff time to process permits 1424 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,119 and other types of activities within the 1425 01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:07,680 city. Um we're really trying to better 1426 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,839 account and be more accurate for the 1427 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,160 cost recovery. uh we haven't updated the 1428 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,559 development user fees in over five and a 1429 01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:17,200 half years. 1430 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,280 So we will review just at a high level 1431 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,880 some of the discussion we had in 1432 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,960 December at the workshop uh a little bit 1433 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,440 about the process and how we go about 1434 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,200 developing the draft fees and then make 1435 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,680 them more firmed up and final some 1436 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,599 samples of the fees that are being 1437 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:33,760 established and recommended tonight 1438 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,079 comparisons with other jurisdictions. 1439 01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:37,680 And then one thing we did some 1440 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,680 significant changes both uh increases 1441 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,400 and decreases. And then since the 60-day 1442 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,559 notice posting we're required by law to 1443 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:47,039 do some minor changes that staff is 1444 01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:48,960 recommending to that and those are all 1445 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,319 reductions or clarifications. 1446 01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,720 Here's a sample of what's in the 1447 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,799 development user fees now. And again the 1448 01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:58,160 bulk of what we're considering tonight 1449 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,799 for fee changes are uh squarely within 1450 01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:02,079 this document. The development user 1451 01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,160 fees. Everything from our planning and 1452 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,520 entitlement, our engineering and 1453 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,119 building, everything that happens below 1454 01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:08,480 grade and above grade as far as 1455 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,599 permitting inclusive of fire fees as 1456 01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:13,920 well and business licenses. We are not 1457 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,239 updating section 7 tonight. Uh this 1458 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,640 council has seen some improvements to 1459 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,799 that section to create incentives in the 1460 01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,560 downtown area in particular in downtown 1461 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,359 surrounding area. That that section of 1462 01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:29,910 the chapter is staying the same. 1463 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,440 Not all the graphics are loading 1464 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,040 unfortunately. uh some of the 1465 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,759 philosophies tonight. Uh really we'll 1466 01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:37,920 start with the end in mind. We we talked 1467 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,600 about in December and we got some head 1468 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,120 nods that we should be moving towards 1469 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,440 100% cost recovery to make sure that the 1470 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:45,040 growth related activities for private 1471 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,359 development are helping pay for the the 1472 01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:50,239 impact on city resources, city staff. Um 1473 01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,000 there is some changes you'll see and 1474 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,359 we're happy to highlight that there's 1475 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,120 some reduction in fees that has a lot to 1476 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,640 do with the improvements we've made in 1477 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,920 our department over the last few years 1478 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,080 and related development disciplines to 1479 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,480 gain have some gains in reducing the 1480 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,560 amount of time that a project may go 1481 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,000 through the review and iterative 1482 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,239 process. And then again one of the 1483 01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:09,759 council strategic plans that exists 1484 01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:11,920 today is to develop a user fee cost 1485 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,440 recovery philosophy. So, not only for 1486 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:14,799 development services, but as you're 1487 01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:17,040 going to see um the the other half of 1488 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,560 the presentation in December was related 1489 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,239 to community services and the types of 1490 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,480 services they offer the community. And 1491 01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:24,239 again, those aren't apples to apples. 1492 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,640 Those are types of services that perhaps 1493 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,640 are best not recovered at 100%. 1494 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,080 We'll start with the exception to the 1495 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,000 rule in mind. And it's important you'll 1496 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,520 see that fourth bullet down. BA projects 1497 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,000 based on permit revenues based on 1498 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,920 valuation make up about 90% of the 1499 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,520 revenue that comes into development 1500 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,199 services. 1501 01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:47,279 This is the type of project where uh we 1502 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:48,960 spend a lot of time setting the staff 1503 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,480 time involved and what is appropriate 1504 01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:53,040 fee for certain permit type. You need a 1505 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,360 CFO. You need to come in and get a solar 1506 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,960 permit. Those are types of things that 1507 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,280 are a little easier to accurately depict 1508 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,960 each discipline that's involved and how 1509 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,120 much time they're spending on that. the 1510 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,800 there's too much variation in saying 1511 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,920 we're going to build a new building 1512 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,159 shell that could be range in size from 1513 01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:09,760 10,000 square feet to a million square 1514 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,400 feet. So to combat that variation, those 1515 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,800 permit types, the industry standard 1516 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,400 internationally is to use what's called 1517 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,640 the building valuation data table. It's 1518 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,840 published twice a year by the 1519 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,480 international code council and we're we 1520 01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,239 will be now with this recommendation 1521 01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:25,920 among 11 cities in the valley that are 1522 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,520 updating it annually to be more 1523 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,760 accurately reflective of the cost of 1524 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,560 construction. So what you do uh when you 1525 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,520 use this process is you you take both 1526 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,280 residential and non-residential permit 1527 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,199 types. You plug in the square foot and 1528 01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:40,560 the type of construction method and it 1529 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,480 gives you a value and you convert that 1530 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,320 value through our process to a permit 1531 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,880 fee and a plan review fee. Our 1532 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,040 recommendation tonight is to annually 1533 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,880 adopt the new valuation table every 1534 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,800 February and that will continue 1535 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,800 concurrently each year with this 1536 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,400 approval. Uh, one of the things that 1537 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,320 makes this a good good recommendation is 1538 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,159 that it creates consistency across 1539 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:03,920 jurisdictions. As I said, we're we're 1540 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,840 among 11 jurisdictions in the valley and 1541 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,280 the state that are that are using this 1542 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,880 and it's an industry standard across the 1543 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,920 country. We have shared this uh with our 1544 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,760 the building, 1545 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,679 excuse me, the um the home builder 1546 01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:17,440 association of central Arizona. They're 1547 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,280 aware of this. They're used to this sort 1548 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,520 of methodology for calculating fees 1549 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,320 across the valley. 1550 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,560 So outside of the building valuation 1551 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040 standard of of assessing a fee category 1552 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,760 would be this sort of the ABCs of 1553 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,480 developing user fee schedule 1554 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,320 beginning first with establishing do we 1555 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:37,920 have all the right categories. Some of 1556 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,760 the recommendations with this update are 1557 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,120 to remove some categories that are no 1558 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,760 longer relevant because both technology 1559 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,000 and permit types and use types are 1560 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,679 changing. We do have some new proposed 1561 01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:49,679 categories as well. And then updating uh 1562 01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:51,600 the bulk of the existing fees. 1563 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,840 Allocating not only just uh staff time 1564 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,600 in our department and the types of 1565 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,040 discipline that are looking at a permit 1566 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,199 type, but outside of our department, we 1567 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:01,840 may incorporate uh review comments from 1568 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,360 the water resources department on a 1569 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,719 large project. And so accounting for 1570 01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:07,199 their staff time. And then before we go 1571 01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:09,199 and we publish the final recommended 1572 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,120 version, we do sort of a gut check with 1573 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,280 other valley jurisdictions to make sure 1574 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,880 we're not out of we're grossly out of 1575 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:20,630 alignment with what's being recommended. 1576 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,239 And again, this is a sample. So you're 1577 01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:24,239 not meant to have to go line by line 1578 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:25,520 through here, but this is a sample of 1579 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,360 what it looks like. In this case, the 1580 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,159 major site plan review, all the types of 1581 01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:31,440 different disciplines and levels of 1582 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,199 discipline that touch that project and 1583 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:34,880 their staff time involved throughout the 1584 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,149 process. 1585 01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:40,480 And then as promised, we take a sampling 1586 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,120 of our proposed fees and we look at not 1587 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,640 only in that the sec the third column 1588 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,800 over what our existing fees are, but a 1589 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,800 West Valley average there as well. and 1590 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,199 then individually some of the the more 1591 01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:53,280 high growth cities in the west valley. 1592 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,040 These categories in particular you'll 1593 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,800 see a couple of them are actually well 1594 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,239 this first one is being reduced and 1595 01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,239 that's a reflective of site plans are 1596 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,400 now administrative but there's also a 1597 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,239 reduction in the number of reviews and 1598 01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:06,239 the time to get through a process based 1599 01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:09,440 on our continuous improvement efforts. 1600 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,040 And then further down the list, the 1601 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,560 third item, plan review. That's 1602 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,880 engineering plan review per sheet. 1603 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,199 Another reduction based on the types of time we spend on that 1604 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,120 review. And again, just a comparison to 1605 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,239 make sure that we're not out of 1606 01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:24,719 alignment with other jurisdictions. And 1607 01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:27,040 the last one you see, we are much lower 1608 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,640 than other jurisdictions. And maybe this 1609 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,000 is a good one to highlight, traffic 1610 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,920 control plans. This is for items that 1611 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:37,520 are temporary uh temporary control plans for partial closures of 1612 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,360 streets or full closures of streets. 1613 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,600 Recognizing that uh not only city 1614 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,719 projects but private development 1615 01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:45,679 projects benefit from speed to getting 1616 01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:47,840 um projects mobed and under and started, 1617 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,239 we've created a hybrid hybrid program 1618 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:53,120 where it's the the plans are reviewed by 1619 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,280 an inspector. So they spent a little bit 1620 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,560 of time on the computer reviewing the 1621 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,080 plans, but a lot of that work happens in 1622 01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,760 the field with their traffic control 1623 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,719 staff. 1624 01:14:02,719 --> 01:14:05,360 And then as we highlighted before, some 1625 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,760 significant changes in the green. Those 1626 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,000 are savings to customers. Maintenance 1627 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,440 improvement districts, street light 1628 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,440 improvement districts, drastically 1629 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,920 reducing costs based on the that being 1630 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,840 an entirely in-house review now versus 1631 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,760 third party review, third party legal 1632 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,000 and engineering. And then plan unit plan 1633 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,159 amendments. another drastic reduction 1634 01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:25,920 and again that has a lot to do with that 1635 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,600 being almost an entirely administrative 1636 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,679 process for us saving some of the 1637 01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:31,520 hearings involved. There are some 1638 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,800 drastic increases percentage-wise but as 1639 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,040 far as dollar amounts somewhat nominal 1640 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,199 you can imagine Buckeye seven or eight 1641 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:41,120 years ago wasn't doing as large projects 1642 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,719 that you'll see along the I 10 corridor 1643 01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:44,560 and SR85 corridor now. So grading 1644 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,640 permits in particular the amount of 1645 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,400 pages and the amount of acreage that 1646 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,080 staff is looking at is drastically 1647 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,199 increased and that's what's being 1648 01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:53,679 reflected there. And then concept site 1649 01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:55,679 plan reviews. Historically those were 1650 01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:57,520 looked at only by planning and maybe one 1651 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,120 other discipline and gave some 1652 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,880 preliminary guidance. The way we use 1653 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,280 those concept site plan reviews now is 1654 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,960 they're complete reviews involving all 1655 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,400 the necessary disciplines. So it gives 1656 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,080 greater confidence to that customer that 1657 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,880 they can take that and move into 1658 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,040 construction documents. Then variance 1659 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,880 fee is one of those ones where there is 1660 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,719 an increase but the volume of variances 1661 01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,560 the city sees is about one every two 1662 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,920 years. we had the ability to review back 1663 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,239 with a recent variance and understand 1664 01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:25,840 just directly the cost involved. So 1665 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,600 that's why there's an increase there. 1666 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,920 >> Ryan, before you go off of that, the uh 1667 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,199 the increase that we're seeing in 1668 01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:36,159 grading permit cost and uh concept site 1669 01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:39,440 plan review is is that for any size 1670 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:40,960 development? 1671 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,480 >> The that grading permit is is more I 1672 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:47,120 think that's the first level. We have 1673 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,440 successive levels above that for larger 1674 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:51,040 tracks of land, but this one would be 1675 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,280 for the first sort of I don't have in 1676 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,040 front of me. It's going to be like 1677 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,800 20 acres or less. I'll get you that 1678 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,600 number and then it would increase beyond 1679 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,640 that as well. A lot of grading permits 1680 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,320 historically have been those infill 1681 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:13,910 parcels. So maybe 5 to 10 acres. 1682 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,800 » Okay. It's a It's just a pretty 1683 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,120 substantial increase. And I'm sure 1684 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,800 that's backed up by the amount of time 1685 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,440 that it takes to process that. That's a 1686 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,199 20acre site is much much different than 1687 01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:30,719 a than a Burlington that's that's being 1688 01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:31,840 developed. 1689 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,880 >> Correct. And typically you would have 1690 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,360 one acre or less is exempt from certain 1691 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,880 grading permit requirements or grading 1692 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,360 and drainage requirements. So that's 1693 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,360 >> okay. These these mentioned they're all 1694 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,719 reflective of spending time putting in 1695 01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:48,159 time involved for each level of 1696 01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:49,520 discipline and trying to accurately 1697 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,640 account for what we need to recoup back. 1698 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,440 Do we have what the industry or the the 1699 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:59,520 area average is for each of those? 1700 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,040 We're seeing a pretty significant 1701 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,679 increase. Is are we coming up to par 1702 01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:04,560 with 1703 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,960 >> across other jurisdictions? I don't have 1704 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,000 that for you. 1705 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,189 >> Okay. 1706 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,199 I think the and the the salient note on 1707 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:14,719 this slide is that we're not 1708 01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:17,280 recommending over recovering costs on 1709 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,760 any category. Everything's at the 100% 1710 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,320 or the high 90s. Round off the numbers. 1711 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,840 >> I guess that's the bottom line on this 1712 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,120 one is this is just recovering 1713 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,920 90% of what it cost us to do the permit. 1714 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,320 >> Correct. 1715 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,149 >> Okay. 1716 01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,159 And then another case study, business 1717 01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,040 licensing had historically had 17 1718 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,040 different categories. The fees ranging 1719 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,840 up to $1,000. Some of them we weren't 1720 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,920 charging any fees. We've cons 1721 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,000 consolidated those fees into a general 1722 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,000 category with the exception I'll explain 1723 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,760 the specialty fee types in a minute. 1724 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,920 But really the benefit to the city is 1725 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,239 capturing these businesses. So, not only 1726 01:17:58,239 --> 01:17:59,600 can we make sure we're accounting for 1727 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,840 the businesses in our community that are 1728 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,280 they meeting the sales tax requirements, 1729 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,880 but are we able to provide them 1730 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,400 resources and are they part of the 1731 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,719 network of things that we can provide 1732 01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:11,520 from the city? So, now the first permit 1733 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,880 out the door for them, their first time 1734 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,600 in will be $75 and then an annual review 1735 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,080 update of $50. And the other thing 1736 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,840 that's happened with this update and the 1737 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,159 code change, we had required everyone to 1738 01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,000 renew at the same time of the year, 1739 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,760 which was a burden on staff to have 1740 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,199 everything being renewed at the same 1741 01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,360 time. This is a rolling annual update. 1742 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,600 So you can apply. It's for that good for 1743 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,760 that 12 month instead of a prorated 1744 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:34,880 amount, which we weren't offering 1745 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,560 before. You would pay that full amount 1746 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,960 whether it was in January or November. 1747 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,560 And then these specialty fee types, 1748 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,840 again, those are a little bit more 1749 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,400 discernment required, uh, meeting not 1750 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,320 only city requirements, but federal and 1751 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,600 state requirements. So, there's more to 1752 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,880 look at with those applications, and 1753 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,120 there's a little bit more higher um, 1754 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,040 scrutiny required as you go through 1755 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:58,550 those. 1756 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,719 And then, as I mentioned at the top of 1757 01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:02,159 the presentation, there are a few other 1758 01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,480 categories outside development that are 1759 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:06,880 increasing their fees. I would say maybe 1760 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,600 more on the nominal basis. Uh just a 1761 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,360 couple slides on both the airport and 1762 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,920 public works slides. 1763 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,400 Um a couple increases. There's a 1764 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,400 decrease in there. The commercial 1765 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,840 photography, that's again one of those 1766 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,679 things that um there's not a high volume 1767 01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:23,120 of commercial photography occurring on 1768 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,880 the airport, but we want to make sure 1769 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,040 that's not a discouraging fee amount. So 1770 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,440 maybe we're not recovering cost to 1771 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:30,800 provide that service or allow that 1772 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,640 service on our property if there's any 1773 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,040 disruption. These other fee categories 1774 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,040 are just a matter of it's been five to 1775 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,880 six years since we've updated fees at 1776 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,000 the airport and basing them on market 1777 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:47,830 rate studies. 1778 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,480 And this last slide on the airport again 1779 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:54,159 more fees um in nominal nature related 1780 01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,000 to just common activities at the 1781 01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:01,110 airport. 1782 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,360 And then in the public works realm, 1783 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,640 there are some additional fees that 1784 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,040 needed added uh as far as this user 1785 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,320 services they're offering to the 1786 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,719 community. First one there, residential 1787 01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:13,840 household waste drop off, a new $40 fee 1788 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,800 being assessed there. And then again, 1789 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,199 white good drop off, $25, and then key 1790 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,360 replacement. Just nominal fees. Wanted, 1791 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,280 it's not maybe not worth the the minutes 1792 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,120 I'm giving it based on the volume of 1793 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,560 these types of projects. We want to make 1794 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,239 sure we're we're discussing those. And 1795 01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:30,400 then unique to public works to align 1796 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,760 with the solid waste fees there is a 4% 1797 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,750 annual escalator added. 1798 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,679 And then community services as Miranda 1799 01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:42,159 had presented in the December workshop. 1800 01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:45,840 There is a range from community type of 1801 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,679 amenity to more an individual type of 1802 01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:50,560 amenity. You can imagine shelter rentals 1803 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,400 and private swim lessons being something 1804 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,840 that's more individual in nature, 1805 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,480 whereas open access to a park or the 1806 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,560 library material resources are something 1807 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,480 that benefits the community as a whole. 1808 01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:03,600 And so the amount of recovery proposed 1809 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,719 with those are they range from 0 to 100. 1810 01:21:06,719 --> 01:21:09,280 So this next slide shows you the 1811 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,600 recommended column and that's the second 1812 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,199 to last column and then where the study 1813 01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:15,520 found that we exist today. call it out 1814 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,520 in orange where we're a little bit shy 1815 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,320 or over or under meeting those targets. 1816 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,080 So, this would what's being proposed 1817 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,480 today allows the community services 1818 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,440 department to study and understand their 1819 01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:29,280 cost to provide each of these services 1820 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,000 and recommend a fee within the range 1821 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,320 that's posted in that third column and 1822 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,960 then continually monitor their fees for 1823 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,239 services and the revenue related to 1824 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:39,840 that. Make sure that they're within an 1825 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,840 alignment of that cost recovery 1826 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,070 suggestion. 1827 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,800 Can I ask a question back on on that? 1828 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,520 So, um, 1829 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,560 are we saying these fees have not been 1830 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,159 decided yet and they're going to come up 1831 01:21:56,159 --> 01:21:59,440 with what that fee is somewhere in that 1832 01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:02,639 range for for cost recovery? Um, 1833 01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:04,159 Miranda's gonna nod her head, but the 1834 01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:06,080 first thing I'll say is there is fee fee 1835 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,120 level being recommended tonight 1836 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,880 with the fee schedule attached to the 1837 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,679 materials, but then annually or as 1838 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:15,520 periodically as needed, the fees will be 1839 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,280 updated to make sure that they're 1840 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,800 maintaining true alignment with those 1841 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,920 recommended ranges. 1842 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,000 >> So, we've we've talked also about some 1843 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,679 of the open spaces and specifically like 1844 01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,760 a um 1845 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,679 uh across the street at Sixth Street 1846 01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:32,800 Plaza and and trying to activate that 1847 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,440 area. Uh but it's difficult to do that 1848 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:41,120 when there's a a fee associated with 1849 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,560 uh especially the nonprofits or the the 1850 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,800 small gathering get together or things 1851 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,880 like that. It how is that how do we 1852 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,840 activate those areas? 1853 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,159 uh and and maybe we are doing fee 1854 01:22:56,159 --> 01:22:58,239 recovery or we're not doing fee recovery 1855 01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:01,199 on that uh based on the conversations 1856 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:03,600 we've had about it then I I think at our 1857 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,639 workshop also talking about 1858 01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:12,239 that or um uh ramadas at the park or or 1859 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:14,480 other things along those lines. 1860 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:17,600 >> Sure. So you can see that the rentals uh 1861 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,560 specifically are in the 100% uh cost 1862 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,760 recovery category. Um and the reason for 1863 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:24,719 that is that it's a pretty 1864 01:23:24,719 --> 01:23:28,080 individualized use, right? Um but the 1865 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,239 open access and the use of some of those 1866 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:33,520 facilities is in the lower area. So I 1867 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,120 guess all that to say that it as we 1868 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,960 depending on the amount of time that it 1869 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,520 takes for staff to facilitate that type 1870 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,000 of use. So, if somebody were coming in 1871 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,480 and reserving a facility for a birthday 1872 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,280 party or something to that effect, um we 1873 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,719 would be tracking the amount of time 1874 01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:53,600 that we directly spend to facilitate 1875 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:58,320 that use and creating a fee category or 1876 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,120 creating a fee that aligns with that. um 1877 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,040 in and I don't I didn't bring my my 1878 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,239 binder up, but in your um packet 1879 01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:08,239 tonight, there is a range of fees that 1880 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,800 allows us to be flexible in that right 1881 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,040 now so that we're not overcharging for 1882 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,440 what that could be or uh undercharging 1883 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:19,840 or subsidizing that. Thank you. 1884 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:20,960 So, 1885 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,120 >> so an example, let's say somebody wanted 1886 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,199 to rent out uh Six Street Plaza for a 1887 01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:29,920 small one-hour event on on a Saturday 1888 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,040 morning. What that's that's 1889 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,120 community-minded. 1890 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,360 What What would be the cost to rent 1891 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:37,920 that? 1892 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,960 >> So, today that cost is $250 because that 1893 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,719 is the adopted fee and that is the only 1894 01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:44,639 fee that I can charge. What we're 1895 01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:47,280 proposing is that we would uh take a 1896 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,360 look at what that actually costs, which 1897 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,400 is going to be less than $250, 1898 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:58,480 uh, and charge exactly what we find that costs back to the to the renter. 1899 01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:03,679 So, you would see that that fee shrink. 1900 01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:05,679 So I what that's going to do though and 1901 01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:07,360 we've had this discussion before is it 1902 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,239 means that nobody uses Six Street Plaza 1903 01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:12,239 then unless it's a larger event where 1904 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:14,560 you have a 1905 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,320 somebody that's willing to step in. for 1906 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,400 an hour event. 1907 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,520 Um, and I probably have one specific in 1908 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,320 mind, but there there are other events 1909 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,880 where people would like to, you know, 1910 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,120 gather in a certain spot and and it 1911 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,679 um takes a uh a permit. 1912 01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:39,840 Uh so you've you've got some kind of 1913 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,920 uh idea of um we're the requirement is 1914 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,159 you have to have a a permit to do this 1915 01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,480 specific event uh a small get together 1916 01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:52,159 event like this. Um and and then that 1917 01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:54,960 triggers a cost to that nonprofit or in 1918 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,880 some cases it's not even a nonprofit. 1919 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,040 It's just a group of people in the 1920 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:04,560 community that want to get together for a reason on Sixth Street Plaza. 1921 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,960 uh $250 1922 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,199 doesn't work and $100 they're going to 1923 01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:10,960 go someplace else. 1924 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,920 >> So whether it's the event I'm thinking 1925 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,040 of or it's a different event, we're 1926 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,960 essentially saying 1927 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,040 don't use this, 1928 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,360 go someplace else and and hold your 1929 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,520 event. 1930 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,960 >> So a couple of things. First, the the 1931 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,719 fee that we are proposing is $10 to 1932 01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:34,800 $400. So, it allows us to get very 1933 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,000 um very light on the fee if there is a 1934 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,040 very light requirement of staff for to 1935 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,159 help facilitate that rental. Um, a 1936 01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:45,679 couple of other things. I mean, anybody 1937 01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:47,280 can come out and use our facility any 1938 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,040 time as long as it's not reserved for 1939 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,440 any other reason. So, we don't restrict 1940 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,600 use of our facilities, you know, in open 1941 01:26:53,600 --> 01:27:00,400 areas and so forth. um where a fee would would be utilized as if they were 1942 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,080 reserving it for a specific reason that 1943 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,560 um then restricted it from public use 1944 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,360 otherwise. The other thing that I will 1945 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,040 say is that we do have groups that we 1946 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,679 work with pretty regularly that help uh 1947 01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:16,320 facilitate events for the city in 1948 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,000 partnership with the city. So the other 1949 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,920 way that we could accomplish maybe 1950 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,520 helping facilitate some of those events 1951 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,679 are through agreements. Um, one of them 1952 01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:24,800 that you're probably pretty familiar 1953 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,719 with would be like the Main Street or 1954 01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:29,040 the Chamber. We work with even the White 1955 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,719 Tank Mountains Conservancy. We work with 1956 01:27:30,719 --> 01:27:32,960 groups like that to help facilitate 1957 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,719 those things. So, I don't know if that 1958 01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:36,080 answers your questions, but there's a 1959 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,199 couple of different ways that we can go 1960 01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:41,440 about either reducing the fees and or 1961 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:43,360 um, you know, again, if it's a pretty 1962 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,560 light facilitation of a of a an 1963 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,560 activity, then I wouldn't anticipate a 1964 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:49,760 large charge. 1965 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,960 >> Yeah. Um, 1966 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,760 I think I think this probably warrants 1967 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,920 more discussion. It's It sounds like you 1968 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,560 have a a a range that you can work that 1969 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,159 into, but it's still going to come back 1970 01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:03,920 to a 1971 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,520 we had to send a guy out there to open a 1972 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,920 gate or something like that that that is 1973 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,000 a an hourly rate fee. And I don't I 1974 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,800 don't know what that was. 100 bucks or 1975 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,760 65 bucks or something like that. 1976 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,000 it it is going to discourage and does 1977 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,000 discourage people from using the 1978 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,360 facilities that we have where we're 1979 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,040 wanting to program and and activate I 1980 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,480 guess program's not the right term 1981 01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:28,320 activate those areas so that the public 1982 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,400 is coming out and spending time in them 1983 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:35,520 and if we're charging um fees to do that 1984 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:42,400 those groups that we would invite in to have just a presence at a at the 1985 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,360 plaza or at a ramada or someplace in a 1986 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,360 park are going to say we will go 1987 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:51,360 someplace else to do this and that's 1988 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,040 there's there's some of the fees where I 1989 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,560 understand we're trying to recoup 1990 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,639 expense and actual expense that we have 1991 01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:58,800 in it. Uh but there's other ones that 1992 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,600 are um the the facility is built. It's 1993 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,840 paid for. It's it's maintained and and I 1994 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,639 don't know that charging a fee is going 1995 01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:12,239 to accomplish what we want it to 1996 01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:14,719 accomplish. It is going to is going to 1997 01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:16,400 discourage people from using some of the 1998 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,600 public space that we have. 1999 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,400 >> Understood. I think I mean I don't know 2000 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,800 at this point if it's best to I'm 2001 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,280 looking to I guess our our council 2002 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,400 because council could recommend a lower 2003 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,159 cost recovery at this point also. 2004 01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:36,239 >> Yes. And Miranda, thank you mayor and 2005 01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,960 council. to Miranda's point, the 2006 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,040 proposed fees tonight have with the city 2007 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,360 has followed the notice requirements in 2008 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,360 the um the statute and that requires 2009 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,480 that the city prepare a report subst you 2010 01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:53,600 know supporting the proposed uh new or 2011 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,120 increased fees and uh post a copy of the 2012 01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,000 report the schedule of the proposed fees 2013 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,840 um and the that that data on the clerk's 2014 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,560 website also requires the city to 2015 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,960 prepare a notice of intent with the 2016 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,520 date, time, location of the meeting uh 2017 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,800 tonight to approve or reject the fees 2018 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,480 and the city has complied with the 2019 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,199 notice of requirements. Now those the 2020 01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:21,520 information the report and the schedule 2021 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,679 sets the upper um limit of the fees. So, 2022 01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:29,440 um, in in light of the lengthy notice, 2023 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:32,400 um, requirements, if council had the 2024 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,840 desire to, um, modify some of the 2025 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,400 proposed fees downward within that 2026 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,040 noticed range, the council could opt to 2027 01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,400 do so tonight or direct staff to to move 2028 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,280 accordingly. Um, if it were a percentage 2029 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,440 reduction or something along those 2030 01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:51,600 lines. 2031 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,520 Yeah, I 2032 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,840 um 2033 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,679 not exactly sure how to handle that. 2034 01:30:57,679 --> 01:30:59,679 >> Do we uh do we have to vote on this 2035 01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:05,030 tonight or we have can we table it? 2036 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,080 » So council could table it. It would 2037 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,040 require a motion uh to either table the 2038 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,280 item or to continue it to another 2039 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,440 meeting. If that were the desire of 2040 01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,199 council, I would recommend that you 2041 01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:22,880 continue it to a date certain. Um but 2042 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,440 if there were specific fees, it sounds 2043 01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:27,199 as though there might be just one or two 2044 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,880 specific fees that are at issue and if 2045 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,159 that's something that could be further 2046 01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:34,719 discussed tonight as well or modified 2047 01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:36,239 tonight by the council, you could also 2048 01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:38,960 do so and then have the vote tonight. We 2049 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,360 don't have to start the process over u 2050 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,080 for the the 2051 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,320 um notice of intent to increase fees. 2052 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,560 >> Mayor, if the discussion involved 2053 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,880 increasing the fees above what was 2054 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,120 noticed, then then arguably 2055 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,600 >> that's not what we're talking to to 2056 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,120 restart that process. 2057 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,120 >> In this case, it's not. So, we're I 2058 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,040 think um I think we continue this and we 2059 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,880 have a more robust conversation about 2060 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,719 the fees and and what we're trying to 2061 01:32:08,719 --> 01:32:10,560 accomplish. 2062 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,239 Um and and some of them it it we're So, 2063 01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:15,920 here's what's going to happen. If if we 2064 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,679 go through and we pass this, there's 2065 01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:19,360 unintended consequences. And it's going 2066 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,000 to be not next month, it's going to be 2067 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,840 six months or a year down the road where 2068 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,480 a group is going to come in and say, "We 2069 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:29,360 are the um 2070 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:34,800 you know, we're the we're the group that brings out puppies for petting in 2071 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,880 uh in a Romana at the park or at at some 2072 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,440 just some of the most benign, soft, 2073 01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,199 loving stuff that that you can come up 2074 01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:44,880 with." 2075 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,960 and and 2076 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,880 we're going to tell them you got to pay 2077 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,239 a hundred or $250 to go bring puppies to 2078 01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:54,560 the park for kids to to pet. Probably a 2079 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,880 terrible example, but you know what I'm 2080 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,159 getting at with this. I mean, we've had 2081 01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:00,639 this over and over and over. And then 2082 01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:02,880 all that blows back on us as council and 2083 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,360 then the it's, you know, all buried 2084 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,880 within the fees that we're talking 2085 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,920 about. Uh and and so then at that point 2086 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,440 we come back to you and say, "Hey, can 2087 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:12,800 we do anything about this?" and well, 2088 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,159 you guys approved this 6 months or a 2089 01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:17,520 year ago. So, I think it's probably a 2090 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,159 timeout we need to call on this uh and 2091 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:21,760 then have the conversation if we can 2092 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,080 maybe have it at the next council 2093 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,520 meeting so that we're we're all a little 2094 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,239 bit more focused on these fees and some 2095 01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:31,760 of the specifics that we're talking 2096 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,120 about. 2097 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,840 >> Mr. Mayor, 2098 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,360 >> hold on just one second. Doug, you're 2099 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:38,080 about to say something. 2100 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,199 >> I was going to say a couple different 2101 01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:41,360 things. Is uh the way the fee schedule 2102 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,040 is set up and with the percentages in 2103 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:46,000 here, it leaves a lot of discretion to 2104 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,400 the community services director to be 2105 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,800 able to deal with those one-off types of 2106 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,280 situations that you're talking about. Um 2107 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,199 so that if we do run into a group where 2108 01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:58,239 the fee is over the top, Miranda's going 2109 01:33:58,239 --> 01:33:59,920 to have a lot of discretion to be able 2110 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:01,760 to deal with those. And I believe we 2111 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,480 also have some fee waiver abilities in 2112 01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:08,960 there. and also um a lot of other forms 2113 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,080 of funding assistance and so on. Um and 2114 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,719 what we are talking about here are very 2115 01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:16,639 rare occurrences, one-off kind of 2116 01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:18,320 situations. And I believe that the way 2117 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,159 the structure it is structured, we've 2118 01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:21,920 got the ability to deal with those. 2119 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,760 >> But then we get into the argument every 2120 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,520 time, well, if I do it for this group, 2121 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,120 then I have to do it for this group. Or 2122 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,840 what if this group comes in? What if 2123 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:34,239 this group that none of us I mean the people that bring cats, what if that 2124 01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:37,040 group comes in, we don't want to give 2125 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,520 them the the reduction in fee. And so 2126 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,800 then we're in this circular reference 2127 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,800 constantly on this stuff. 2128 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,440 >> And and that's uh kind of how we got to 2129 01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:50,960 the what is it? $250 now, 2130 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:51,600 >> right? 2131 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:52,880 >> It's black and white, 2132 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:53,199 >> right? 2133 01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:54,880 >> And to get to black and white, that's 2134 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,040 what you end up with. If you when you 2135 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,480 leave a little bit of discretion in 2136 01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,560 there, you do end up with some 2137 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,199 discussions of the around and around 2138 01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:05,520 with the gray, but it makes sure that we 2139 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:06,880 do have that ability and that 2140 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,560 discretion. Having it black and white 2141 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,360 ends up somebody's always not going to 2142 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,360 be happy. 2143 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:14,400 >> Yeah, vice mayor. 2144 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:19,350 >> Yeah, I think we're 2145 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,000 we don't want to get to the point where 2146 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,560 we're creating policy around the 2147 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,159 exceptions. And I think we're talking 2148 01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:30,560 about the exceptions here that you know 2149 01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,000 having read through this that um there 2150 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,080 is a lot of latitude and and the ping 2151 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,040 petting puppies group and the you know 2152 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,800 snuggling cats group. I think 2153 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,400 >> we don't want the snuggling cats. Well, 2154 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,159 we might at some point, but um I think 2155 01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:49,679 there's 2156 01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:52,719 a lot of latitude where those things can 2157 01:35:52,719 --> 01:35:56,000 we can address those things and I think 2158 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,159 we have an opportunity moving forward 2159 01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:00,320 that you know if that if those 2160 01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,040 exceptions become the rule then and 2161 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:07,120 modify the policy accordingly. 2162 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,639 So, I think you know that Miranda and 2163 01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:12,480 her team and Brian and her team and the 2164 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:13,920 others that were involved with this put 2165 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,360 a lot of work into it and a lot of 2166 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:20,159 thought into it. Um, and I think we have 2167 01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:23,040 a better product now or potentially 2168 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,520 better product now than we had prior to 2169 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,199 this. 2170 01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:31,120 Um, so I I I think we're we're getting 2171 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,679 into a slippery slope that if we don't 2172 01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:37,840 look at this and give it a try, then 2173 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,480 we're going to continually try to create 2174 01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:42,719 policy around those exceptions and we're 2175 01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:44,880 not going to have anything we can rely 2176 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,760 on. 2177 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,119 >> Mr. Mayor. 2178 01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:50,000 >> Yes, sir. 2179 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,760 >> I've got a question and I'll make a 2180 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,760 proposal. 2181 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,639 If I take my family of eight or 10 and 2182 01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:02,800 go down to Sundance Park and go to a 2183 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,920 Ramada number 18 and have a birthday 2184 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,239 party, are you going to come down and 2185 01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:10,400 charge me if you see a group of people 2186 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,960 down there? Because it's not busy on a 2187 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,960 Saturday. So, I just go down there with 2188 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,199 my family and I sit down and I have a 2189 01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:19,600 party. Is somebody going to come along? 2190 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,520 Because you do have staff down there. 2191 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:22,880 somebody going to come along and check 2192 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,880 my staff status, excuse me, my my permit 2193 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,119 status. Is someone at that point going 2194 01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,360 to charge me or run me and my family 2195 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:32,480 off? 2196 01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,119 >> Councilman Huis, no sir. So, our 2197 01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:37,360 facilities are available and open as 2198 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,440 long as they are not reserved. So, we do 2199 01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:42,000 allow the reservation of a ramada so 2200 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,520 that if you wanted to have a birthday 2201 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,040 party, you could plan accordingly and 2202 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,239 you would know that when you show up 2203 01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:47,840 that Ramada will be made available to 2204 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,000 you. But if that ramada is open then 2205 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,520 it's first come first served and there 2206 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:52,400 is no charge. 2207 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,560 >> So if I go to reserve it I have to pay. 2208 01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,320 If I just go down there I don't have to 2209 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:57,600 pay 2210 01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,840 >> as Yes sir. As long as it's not 2211 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,239 reserved. As long as it's open it's 2212 01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:03,760 available for use. And right now that 2213 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,400 charge is $10. 2214 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,920 >> I'm going to leave it up to council. I'm 2215 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,360 going to make a proposal. So, I'll make 2216 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,000 a motion that we delay this to the next 2217 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,920 city council meeting so we have more 2218 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,719 time to discuss it and more time for us 2219 01:38:16,719 --> 01:38:18,239 to understand a little bit more about 2220 01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:23,350 it. 2221 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,119 » Second. 2222 01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:28,880 >> Okay. I have a motion and a second for a 2223 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,400 um 2224 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,119 continuence to the next council meeting. 2225 01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:37,040 >> Requests a roll call vote. Okay. 2226 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:42,709 >> Have a roll call vote, please. 2227 01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:44,000 Council member Yoner. 2228 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,679 >> Hey. 2229 01:38:45,679 --> 01:38:46,800 >> Council member Barry. 2230 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,040 >> Hi. 2231 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,119 >> Council member Haggistad. 2232 01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:52,960 >> Hi. 2233 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,480 >> Council member Beard. 2234 01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:56,080 >> Hi. 2235 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,360 >> Council member Hustus. 2236 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:58,639 >> Hi. 2237 01:38:58,639 --> 01:38:59,679 >> Vice Mayor Goodman. 2238 01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:01,199 >> Nay. 2239 01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:01,440 Mayor 2240 01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:02,960 >> Wors. Hi. Let's 2241 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:03,760 >> have it. 2242 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,080 >> Okay. Thank you. 2243 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,830 All right. Thank you. 2244 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,239 Uh, item number six, comments from mayor 2245 01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:15,760 and council. Any comments from 2246 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,920 council? Not seeing any. Item number 2247 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,920 seven, city manager report. Summary of 2248 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,679 your current events. 2249 01:39:21,679 --> 01:39:23,920 >> Couple items tonight. Mayor council. Uh, 2250 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,080 last night we welcomed at festival we 2251 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,320 welcomed approximately 130 residents to 2252 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,800 our annual openhouse town hall series. 2253 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,280 This was the first of four openhouse 2254 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,840 events. The intent of the open houses is 2255 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,080 to promote a direct connection between 2256 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,080 our residents, employees, and the 2257 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,239 services that the city provides. The 2258 01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:44,320 openhouse format allows residents to 2259 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,159 circulate, ask questions from city 2260 01:39:46,159 --> 01:39:48,080 staff, and to get information on the 2261 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,159 topics and services that they are most 2262 01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:52,480 interested in. And last night was our 2263 01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,800 first and our next open house will be on 2264 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,679 May 14th in Tarteso with two additional 2265 01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:01,040 ones planned in June. 2266 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,199 And then last week we had 45 2267 01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:06,480 participants of the winter 2026 Buckeye 2268 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,040 Civic Institute graduate from an 11-week 2269 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,560 program where they were informed about 2270 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,040 how the city runs and how to become more 2271 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,440 civically engaged in the community. Due 2272 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:17,600 to the success of this program, we will 2273 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,440 begin offering the Buckeye Civic 2274 01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:22,239 Institute twice a year with a fall and a 2275 01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:24,320 winter session. And for any residents 2276 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,320 who are interested in participating in 2277 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,719 the civic institute, the interest form 2278 01:40:28,719 --> 01:40:32,639 is now available on our city's website. 2279 01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:35,040 Those are my two updates. Okay. Thank 2280 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,600 you very much. Uh item number eight, 2281 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,280 proposal for future agenda items. Any 2282 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:40,960 from council? 2283 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,480 Seeing none, item number nine. With 2284 01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:43,760 nothing else on the agenda, we are 2285 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,760 adjourned.