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All right, good evening to everyone. Sorry for a little bit of a delay. Some technical difficulties on the mic. Got it taken care of.

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Welcome to the point of Park City Council, regular meeting on Thursday, August 11th at 5 p.m. The City Council met in closed session earlier.

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So we've been working in the sense of three in meetings and I'm going to ask the city attorney if you have anything to report out from closed session.

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Mayor, is it on? Cool.

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The record sure reflect as it may are indicated the City Council recess in a closed session at 3 o'clock to discuss items 3 a through 3 e on your closed session agenda, following is my report 3 a conference legal council existing litigation the butterfly pavilion versus see when it part matter city council received a briefing from the city attorney's office and outside council on the status of this case had a neutral no direction or action was taken 3 b conference legal council existing litigation government code section 549

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five six point nine for the Patel versus City of Winner Park Matter, City Attorney provided

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a briefing on the status of this case to the City Council, but the case is not yet final

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and there's no action to report and I'm three conference with Labor Negotiator, Government

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Code Section 54957.6 with Mr. Eddie Fetton, providing a briefing to the City Council on the

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terms and conditions of employment. Direction was provided, but is not final or reportable at this

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time 3D conference legal counsel anticipated litigation City Council briefed the City Council

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on excuse me.

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The City Attorney briefed the City Council on facts and circumstances creating a potential

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significant exposure risk of liability against the city.

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No action or direction was provided.

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Item 3E conference.

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We will prop negotiator for the property listed at 6591 B. B. B. Bolivar, Mr. Aaron

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to the Council on the Price Terms and Conditions of Under Negotiation.

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Direction was provided, but it's not final or reportable.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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All right, thank you.

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And now we'll officially adjourn that close session and call to order the regular meeting.

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Madam City Clerk, please call the roll.

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Councilmember On.

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Councilmember Franco.

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Ready.

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Councilmember Sonny.

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Vice Mayor Hoke.

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Mayor Trout.

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Here.

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And then just to confirm to our city attorney, I know I confirmed it before close session, just want to make sure it's accurate.

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We have two different things to read out now that are on our agenda.

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I just want to confirm that I can just point to the agenda on mentioning that this is here in person and on Zoom.

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Yeah, that's correct on our webinars.

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As long as the city council makes clear to the public that all of the public accessibility and online options are available printed on the agenda.

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that is adequate. All right, with the city attorney said, I don't need to repeat it. It was a

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long list. It would have been me talking for like three minutes, no one wants that. So we're going to

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have two things right now. First, the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance. So first,

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we're going to have the invocation. This is led by Rabbi Lawrence Goldmark. Welcome. And if everyone

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please stand if you're able or like to.

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It's great to be back. During my long career as a rabbi,

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I have met many inspirational people, fabulous people, and heading that list is a woman,

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a psychiatrist who passed away. I believe about 20 plus years ago.

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Her name, Elizabeth Kubler Ross, and in the early 1970s, she wrote a book entitled

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on death and dying, which impacted, I want to say all of us, but countless numbers of people

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especially physicians.

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And it was my pleasure to meet her and we became friends. And frankly,

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I wanted to share with you from one of the books that she wrote entitled to live until we

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good-bye, something that she wrote to me in that one of her books. I was going through a

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difficult time and she sent me these words. She said,

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should you shield the canyons from the windstorms you would never see the beauty of its

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carvings. I need to repeat that. Should you shield the

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canyons from the windstorms, you would never see the beauty of

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its carvings in sure of. Please remember that. And so, and this is my

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prayer for all of us. We will never be able to share to go to rather not

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to have windstorms in our own lives, but the reality that Dr. Kubla Ross gave to us is that

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we must be able to say, I have the strength to overcome these windstorms just as she did

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and became a blessing to each of us. Amen.

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And if everyone could please stay standing and I'm going to ask that our young man who is

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going to lead us in the pledge.

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If you get start making your way up to the microphone,

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I want to just share a little bit about Jude.

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Jude is at, over at Dicing your Elementary,

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starting up school again tomorrow.

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So thank you for being here the day before your very fun

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first day of school, who your teacher is,

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and it's an incredible teacher.

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So you're going to have a great year.

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Jude is an amazing eight-year-old club member

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of the Boys and Girls Club of Buena Park,

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who will be entering fourth grade, is a talented musician.

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He plays the keyboard in club rock. Jude is known for his kindness, unloving personality, wonderful sense of humor and unforgettable British accent.

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I don't know if you're going to be doing this in a British accent, but we could throw it on a word or two, let's see it.

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Um, he brings...

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One's joy and positive energy to everyone at the club. Welcome and please lead us in the pledge.

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Please place your right hand over your heart.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation, under God,

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indivisible with this tea and justice, rural.

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Thank you again so much.

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All right, we're going to have our city managers report,

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Aaron France.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Just two quick upcoming events.

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We want to make the public aware of the first being tomorrow night.

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On Wednesday, the Symphony on the Go Orchestra will be performing at 6.30 p.m.

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at E-Lars Event Center.

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It's a free concert as we wrap up our summer concert series.

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Look forward to seeing you over at E-Lars tomorrow night.

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And then finally, Mr. Mayor, on Saturday, August 29th.

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At the same spot, E-Lars Event Center at Heritage Hall.

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We'll be having our construction career

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and our apprenticeship resource fair from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.

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I know we have about 29 vendors so far.

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We're off to a great start.

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So, if you are interested in carpentry, pipe fitting, auto repair, HVAC, or any of the skilled trades,

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we highly recommend that you attend on Saturday, August 29th.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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All right, perfect.

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And great work to Vice Mayor Hoke for being the ones who have introduced that.

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And made it such a big success last year.

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Last year, I mean, we were busted at the seams for that, that fair.

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So, if you're able to go, if you're looking for a job, or no someone who is,

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There's on-site interviews. It's incredible. A lot of amazing well-paying opportunities in the trades as well as city hall jobs that we will have folks learning about.

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So we're going to do a few presentations tonight. I'm going to take them in order as they're listed on the agenda for those that have an agenda in front of them.

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So we're going to start with a certificate of recognition to Emily Faust for completion of her youth micro grant project.

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project and I'm going to read a little bit about the project and herself, but I just wanted

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to see if Emily, if you could meet me down here, I'm just going to read a little bit about

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yourself and then I'm just going to present you with these and we'll take some pictures.

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There we go.

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We got it.

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We got it working.

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So the youth and action micro grants program.

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Today we have the honor of highlighting one of our outstanding young leaders at the

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successful completion of her youth microgrants program. And here, before I keep reading,

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I just want to hand you these two if you want to open them up. They have certificate in there.

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The microgrant program empowers our young residents by providing the resources and connections they need

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to design and implement projects that directly benefit our community. One of this year's youth microgrant

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recipients and this is a full-on grant application that high school students have to fill out

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themselves.

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Super impressive.

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Was 10th grader Emily Faust?

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Are you going into 10th grade?

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Is that right?

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Going into 11th.

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So we'll update this going into 11th.

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Emily had previously maintained a little free library in front of her family's own home

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as a place where as a place where neighbors could borrow and share books.

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It was a valued community resource.

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But over time, the structure became worn down and eventually had to be removed.

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Through the Youth Micro Grant Program, Emily was able to install a new free little library

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in her community and restore an important resource to the neighborhood.

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Emily's project is a wonderful example of how young people can make a difference through

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community service.

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Her revitalized library will continue to inspire a love of reading and bring neighbors together

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for years to come. So I just wanted to on behalf of the City Council, congratulate you, Emily,

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on the successful completion of your youth micro grant project and just thank you for

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our contribution to the community and just encourage you to continue giving back and inspiring others.

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So thank you so much.

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We want to do a picture.

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All right, so next I'm going to ask Carlos

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Franco to make his way down here, Council Member Franco, for the recognition of the fit committee

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in celebration of its 10th anniversary.

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So if you are on the Fit Committee or at any point,

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you've been on the Fit Committee,

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come home up here, and Carlos is going to take it from here.

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Thank you, Mayor Trout.

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I'm part of the Les Fit Committee,

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but I'm glad to recognize the rest.

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Now, tonight we're proud to honor the members

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of the Buena Park Fit Committee

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and recognition of 10 years of dedicated service

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to our community.

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And this is incredible ladies and gentlemen,

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as they make their way to join me in the well.

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The mission of the Fit Committee is to improve the health and wellness of when apart through the leadership and action.

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The community works to reduce the obesity, promote physical activity, fitness and encourage healthy nutrition and create opportunities for greater mobility throughout our community.

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I love the fact that they're all joining me, please.

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for four. In 2016, a group of residents came together with a shared mission to work alongside

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city departments to reduce obesity and promote healthier lifestyles through nutritious

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eating and regular physical activity. Today, the Fit Committee is made up of dedicated

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volunteer community leaders who are committed to making Buena Park a healthier place to live,

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work, and raise a family.

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For the past 10 years, the Fit Committee has continued their work

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through monthly meetings and a variety of community programs.

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The committee has encouraged residents to grow fresh vegetables

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through community gardening projects, classes,

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and incorporate more fiscal activity into their daily lives

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by walking, biking, and using public transit.

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The committee has also advocated for improved paths

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and connections between homes, schools,

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and anti-smoking initiatives in Buena Park.

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For 10 years, the members of the Fit Committee before you

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have given their time, energy, and passions

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to making Buena Park a healthier community.

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Please join us in congratulating and recognizing

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the Buena Park Committee for 10 years

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of outstanding service to our community, ladies and gentlemen.

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I have risk-ignition certificates,

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even for those taking some pictures.

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So we're going to have to make your way up here as well.

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But yes, incredible organization.

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I've attended their regular meetings whenever possible.

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And we're so, we're proud of the work our youth is doing.

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And just know that the good work that you're all doing can be amplified when you come together as a community.

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And that's something that we're trying to put together. Buena Park is a very diverse community and everyone here is welcome.

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So whether you've given 15 years of services to this community or more, there's a good way we can make it better for Buena Park.

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Thank you. Let me pass out some certificates if I can make my way over there.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Brenda.

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Lisbeth Flores.

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Lisbeth Martinez.

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And Dr. Martinez coming up soon with Alexander.

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Alberto Vazquez.

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I'm giving you a bonus too.

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Minerva Jimenez.

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Garla Jimenez.

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Lorenda Peterson.

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Patti O, you forgot to come up here.

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Ms. Claire.

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Anna, I just heard you.

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Alejandra.

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Mr. Anna Norma.

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Analyliya Castro.

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And I may have some repeats, but we'll give you two more.

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And let's back you get an answer.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is also a recognition from our senator's office, Mr. Tony Strickland,

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who is recognizing the fit committee for their 10 years of service as well.

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So we'll post for a picture and and then that's it.

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Thank you.

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right, next I want to welcome Anthony Wells from our public works department.

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We have a 15 year service award for you.

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Anthony, if you could join me up here.

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See, you're going to have to put this either on your hat or shirt.

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Is your 15 year service pen.

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Even better, you got a couple certificates from.

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We make sure to read their names that the Assembly Member and Senator Senator Tony Sturclin,

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Assembly Member Sharon Quark Silva, so I'll hand you those, and even better a certificate

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of congratulations from your favorite mayor of your favorite city.

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So I want to read a little bit about your service. So the rest of our community who doesn't

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doesn't yet know you or maybe hasn't met you even though they benefited from a lot of your work

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can learn a little more. So Anthony Wells has been a valued member of the Boena Park team

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Now, as you know, for 15 years, Anthony was hired back in 2011, the math adds up, as a part-time

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maintenance worker to in the then Parks and Recreation Department. He was promoted to maintenance

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help her back in 2013 and promoted to maintenance worker in 2014. In 2018, Anthony transferred

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to the Public Works Department's streets maintenance division. In 2024, Anthony was promoted to

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current role of senior maintenance worker. Anthony specializes in

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tree trimming and irrigation repair among many other skills such as

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asphalt, concrete, crack ceiling and much more. Our roads are incredibly

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smooth and way apart relative to some of the cities around us in part things

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to Anthony so we can thank him. If you've got hot holes or other issues, blame the

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five of us on the day us to get that some more funding. Anthony is a father to

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for children in an avid golfer, fishermen, and a valued coworker.

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Buena Park residents can see proof of his commitment every day

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as they navigate our city.

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It's a much nicer way to say what I just said.

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Thank you Anthony for your 15 years

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of dedicated service to the people of Buena Park.

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Just want to see if you have any a few words

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maybe you would like to share.

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Oh, well, it's been a honor working here.

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I look forward to coming to work.

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I mean, I love my job.

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I live in the city.

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I work for the city.

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And I take pride in everything that I do.

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And anything I can do to help the residents, because I'm a resident, it's really

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honored to help all your residents, but any needs that you guys have.

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Thank you so much again, Anthony.

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The next portion of the meeting, this one is a little shorter, so I'll just read the

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whole thing as it shows.

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This is a public comment portion, essentially if you have anything to say that's not related

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to the agenda, but is within the business of what we do as a city, the school year moment

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to speak during public comment, and the way to do it,

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you either fill out the, there's like a,

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there's a key ask in the entrance,

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either put your name in on that,

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or when people are done speaking.

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I'll ask if anyone in the audience would just like to come out to the microphone and speak. And you have three minutes to do so. Also, we do have, I'm just going to check on zoom. We do have the opportunity on zoom. So those that are listening, you either use the raise hand function, click that button right now, or if you're calling in, click star 9. That's how we're going to see a raise to hand. So first of all, ask our city clerk before getting to speak in person here. Anyone on zoom or any emails, public comment.

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We have no emails and we have no requests to speak on Zoom.

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All right, and then anyone in person that submitted a request?

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I believe we have a request from Mark Steele.

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Mike. Mike. Mike. Mike Steele. Yes, welcome.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then if you could pull up the microphone, so it's close to you, if we had it.

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Okay, Laura is not the little one out there doing the pledge. Okay.

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I am here because of the property at 7254 Fillmore.

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We live right behind it.

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I have actually been in contact with Lumia and sending her pictures.

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I actually filled out a 12 page thing about this property.

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We've been dealing with this property since probably about 2000 or so.

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I bought my house in 86.

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Anyway, the guy that owns this place, his name is Samir.

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He has turned it into an apartment complex and from what I understand, you're allowed to build a four-plex or a single-family home with a 888

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ADU. It's neither one of them. This guy has gutted the inside of his house. He's got an ad on Facebook. He rents out to anybody and there's been drug addicts

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I mean all kinds of creeps. We've called the police so many times

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actually I've got all all the police reports in in this fire. I want to mention too also

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about maybe five or seven years ago all the neighbors filled this out that we all complained about

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this property and we gave it to the city attorney give it to the mayor whoever was the mayor there and nothing

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has been done. But the bottom line is, they put up this AUD. It's basically in our backyard.

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It's two story. There's three windows that look out. I've got a pool with high fences. I bought my

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house for, because I had a pool in privacy. I can't even swim in my pool. My wife goes out there,

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and there's like two man up there looking down at her. I mean, it's ridiculous. We don't have any

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privacy.

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There's, there's, I actually sent pictures. Again, there's, there's 18 cars there. I don't know how many people live in this house. Our neighborhood looks like a used car parking lot.

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Anyway, it's destroyed our neighborhood. I've talked to three different realtors and they said that my property value is nobody wants to buy my house because it's next door to that.

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You know, I mean, it's ridiculous, it we've got creeps every single night, we get

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woken up with corridors going off and people out there talking, most of these people don't

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even have a job, you know, we've called the police a lot of times, you know, the police, unfortunately,

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can't get there for about an hour or so. And I got to get up, I've got a commercial window cleaning

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business out of the South Bay. I usually get up about 330 or 4 o'clock. I do great big huge

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buildings. I do country clubs, hospitals, and I need to get my sleep. And these people are

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waking everybody up in the neighborhood. I mean, there's people in and out all night long.

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It's driving us crazy. I mean, it's just, it's just ridiculous. And I would like to invite

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everyone of you to go by there early in the morning and look at our neighborhood. It's just, it looks

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We live in a nice neighborhood, this is just destroyed my pride of ownership that these people

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throw trash in my planners and I'm just letting you know the three minutes is up, but if you

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can wrap up in about 10 to 15 seconds.

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Okay, yeah.

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I had a bit rocks in my parkway because one of these guys put a swastika, he poured some kind

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of chemicals in there and I couldn't get my marathon grass to grow, but we deal with this

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every day.

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Well, there's ADU too.

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Also, the doors on this side, they slam it.

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That's like 20 foot from my fence and they sit out there and talk.

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I mean, it's something needs to be done.

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And I, yeah, I gave the flyer.

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Please check it out.

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And thank you for reaching out.

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I know that behind the scenes, our vice mayor has been doing a lot of incredible communication

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with staff on this and keeping me a prize in updated as well.

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We can only talk to one other council member for Brown Act purposes, so the other might not know it, but I've gone out there myself to and checked it out.

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So I wanted to just ask, because we can't make decisions for a some public comment immediately, but if maybe our city attorney or whoever Aaron or city manager thinks is the best staff member.

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Can we get any sort of general update based on these discussions we've been having on that side is there any type of response you can share and I know we're going to go on to we have a more public comment on it.

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I just want to see if there's any staff response based on the public comment initially.

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Sure.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Our office is definitely engaged on this one.

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I know we've responded back to Mr. Steele.

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There are some limitations to what we could do out there due to state law, but nonetheless,

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we're working with our community development department on some options to sort of help

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out the neighborhood from a code enforcement perspective.

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If I were definitely on top of some of the issues that Mr. Steel identified, the ADU is a

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little bit trickier for us to deal with.

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But like I said, the community development director and I as well as the planning manager

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have had some discussions on some potential solutions out there.

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So nothing we can do right now in terms of the multi-unit rental unit, but I think that

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will be something that we look at in the next couple of weeks.

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Thank you for giving that update.

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Yeah, I share a lot of your sentiments for that side.

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But I want to make sure we continue the public comment.

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We're more people wishing to speak.

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I think you said your wife was going to be speaking as well.

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Mr. Steel.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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Well, he pretty much covered it all.

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But me as a female, it's very scary to live there.

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My husband works in the daytime.

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I'm there alone by myself all day.

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And I don't even go to my backyard anymore because there are three windows

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looking right into our backyard and they could see and through into our

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sighting glass door.

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So I have to make sure at all times that I have a robot and you know,

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I'm in my own house and I have to make sure later.

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I'm covered, and I can't use my pool anymore, because there's people that sit in their heads out the window and they can just literally see and they're like,

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two feet away from me, and they've had riff raf in and out of there on drugs up all night.

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Just they don't screen these people. There are just people that answer an add on Facebook. There are a lot of them are on drugs. They're up all night, babbling to themselves and it's, it's basically an apartment complex behind us and they even have their own mailbox and their own units.

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It says unit A, unit B, unit C, and like they have their own, it's, it's an apartment complex.

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It's not a, it's not home. It's not a family house. And that's why we moved into a family neighborhood

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instead of a condo or an apartment because we value our privacy. And I think we deserve it.

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That's about it. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Yeah. Really quick. I know our code enforcement manager,

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Robert Craven's is in the back of the room, as well as our planning manager,

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Harold Luna, they both been engaged on this one.

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They're happy to talk to the steel family outside that, you know,

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suit you. So, and could you raise your hand the two individuals just so that

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that the steel's can see you real quick?

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Yeah, if you wanted to step outside and chat with them,

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even right now that would be, that'd be great. Yeah.

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But additional public comment. I have no other additional requests to speak.

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All right. Before I close this public comment portion, I see there's a few more folks from

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public. Anyone else wishing to speak? It public comment on a non agenda item right now.

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Okay. So seen none and I don't think I see anything else on Zoom. We're going to close this

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portion of public comment. And we're going to go on to our consent calendar. The items listed on consent

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are considered routine business. And we'll be voted on together and just by one motion,

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unless anyone on the the city council wants separate action or has any questions on any of the other ones.

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Any particular items on items for a through gosh read what for n.

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The anyone on council either has a question comment wants pulled for any reason.

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I'd like to move for consent.

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All right, so we have a motion for consent is there a second before I call just for public comment in general and consent.

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Second.

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Okay, so we have a motion and a second.

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And we're going to wave the reading of consent calendar.

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It's just going to be as printed on the agenda.

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Any public comments on consent?

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No, request to speak, Mayor.

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And then, if we could please select our vote.

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The consent calendar.

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Excuse me, consent calendar was approved unanimously.

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Perfect.

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And now we have a few of the new business items.

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Starting with 5A, this is going to be presented by High Sun,

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awarding a contract to Tunnel Works services incorporated for the 2526 and 2627 sewer

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main lining at various locations project.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members.

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I am here to present a resolution of proving plan specification and award of the contract

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with a ton of work services for the 2526 and 2026-27

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sewer mainlining at various location projects.

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And you'll be improving the sewer mainlining

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is a proactive measure at preserving the infrastructures

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integrity and prolong the lifespan of the city's sewer system.

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This maintenance help prevent issues such as leak and cracks

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and verify avoid avoiding more significant

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and then costly problem in the future.

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This project will include cleaning of the sewer mainlines,

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calcium removal, performing pressure-growing,

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installing glass reinforced UV liner

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to prevent infiltration and expiltration,

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installing top hats, et cetera, house laterals,

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and conducting a final video inspection.

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The project was advertised for the competitive

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competitive bid on July 14th of 2026, staff received one bid and publicly opened on July 3rd of the 2026.

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Tonneau Works was the sole response of bidder at $1,663,920.

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The contractor has the required license, experience, and completed similar works for the city of

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Garden Grove, Palm Springs, Claremont, and for this city of the Point Apart.

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This project is subject to comply with the Community Workforce Agreement.

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Construction is anticipated to begin in September of 2021, and anticipated complete in April of 2021.

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This project is funded by the Waste Water Enterprise Fund, and was included in the

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the fiscal year 2526 and fiscal year 2627 CIP budget.

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The total project cost including construction and construction contingency

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and CWA administration and CWA administration contingency is $1,194,870.

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The original CIP budget allocation for each fiscal year was $500,000,

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totaling the amount to be a $1 million for total of the two fiscal years.

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Staff is requesting an additional budget transfer in a amount of $150,000 from the

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miscellaneous sewer system improvement account to fully fund the project account to complete the project.

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City Attorney has reviewed and approved a proposed contract and staff is recommending

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awarding of this project to the tonal works.

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That concludes my presentation and I'm ready for any questions.

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All right.

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Any public comment on this item?

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No requests to speak, Mayor.

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Questions or comments from Council?

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If none, is there a motion?

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I'll make a motion.

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Is there a second?

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Second?

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All right.

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We have a motion a second.

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Please select a vote.

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The motion carried unanimously.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you.

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All right. The next one is not Jason Tran. This is deep as is print on the

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agenda. DPR blue. This is going to be presented by this is item 5B resolution that

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proving planned specifications and awarding a contract to JB Bostick LLC for the city yard

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parking lot rehab project. Welcome. Thank you. Good evening honorable mayor members of the city council.

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I'm here on behalf of Jason Tran to present this item. The request of this item is to

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award a construction contract for the city yard parking lot rehabilitation project. The city yard

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serves as the maintenance and operations facility for public works and is located on Argon

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Circle. Due to the age of the facility and heavy vehicle wear interior both the front and the

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rare parking lots are in need of payment rehabilitation. The scope of work of this project is majorly

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asphalt payment rehabilitation that includes removing the existing payment and replacing it with

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either a 2-inch or 4-inch.

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the requiredzungesti.

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00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:33,700
Depending upon what the plans call out for.

453
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:39,080
Additionally, the scope of work also includes some concrete waterwork, adjusting water valves

454
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,660
and soured clean outs to grade installing underground conduit for future use, and reinstalling

455
00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:47,440
curb stops and striping both the parking lots.

456
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,660
The project was advertised in June and nine bits were received.

457
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,820
The lowest bit was approximately 159,000 and the highest was three, 17,000.

458
00:37:57,820 --> 00:38:05,700
The lowest responsive and responsible bidder was JB Bostick at 158,558 precisely.

459
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:11,260
The contractor possesses the required license and has completed similar work with other public

460
00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:19,460
agencies. Just for comparison, the next lowest bidder was at 163,000 followed by 165,000.

461
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:26,560
Therefore, JB Bostick was only 4,493 below the next lowest bidder. They were all pretty close,

462
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,620
which is a good thing.

463
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,080
The recommended total project authorization is $197,000,

464
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,420
although which the contingency amount is $20,442

465
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:38,800
and $8,000 for construction engineering.

466
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,640
Staff felt that carrying additional contingency

467
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,620
was reasonable and cautious approach,

468
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,400
given the age of the infrastructure

469
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,120
and the possibility of unforeseen conditions.

470
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,300
This is a CIP with funding already approved.

471
00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:53,380
If the contract is awarded today,

472
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,240
we will begin construction in September

473
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:59,840
and complete it by October, that ends my presentation and I'm here for any questions.

474
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:02,820
All right, any public comment?

475
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,980
No requests this week.

476
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:06,900
Questions or comments? And if none, I'll entertain a motion.

477
00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:08,620
Yes, come to my friend. Go. Thank you, Mayor.

478
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,260
I miss if they really appreciate the number of bids that were presented on this, and I know

479
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:17,420
that's not something that we as a city control, but it's always great that we do our best to

480
00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:22,360
advertise as much as possible, especially when these bids come as close as they have been today.

481
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:31,160
It shows us that the accuracy of the bid is there, and that no one is bidding too high or too low.

482
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:33,940
And so I really appreciate the hard work on that.

483
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,720
That's it.

484
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,420
I'd like to move forward with approving this as well.

485
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,100
I'll second.

486
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:40,180
All right.

487
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,240
Motion is second.

488
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,420
It's like your boat.

489
00:39:50,090 --> 00:39:51,230
Motion carried unanimously.

490
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:54,900
All right.

491
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Next on to item 5C Eddie Fenson.

492
00:39:58,460 --> 00:40:01,000
Assistant City Manager and Director of HR, you are up.

493
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,140
This is for the employment agreement with Bradley Gyer for Chief of Police.

494
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,460
Thank you and good evening.

495
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Honourable Mayor, Member of the City Council.

496
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:20,140
I'm proud to present this item for your consideration, which is an employment agreement between the city of Buena Park and the interim police chief Bradley Gyer.

497
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:28,640
In December 2025, police chief Noons retired after 28 years of services law enforcement officer to the citizens of Buena Park.

498
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,140
This position is one of the most critical executive management positions within the city's

499
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,220
organization or structure.

500
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,940
Therefore the city manager immediately appointed a police captain Bradley Gyer to serve as

501
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:40,940
interim police chief.

502
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,920
After a careful consideration and exceptional performance over the past seven months, the city

503
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,300
manager desires to appoint Bradley Gyer as the city's permanent police chief for Buena Park.

504
00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:55,380
In terms of chief Gyer has over 28 years of experience with the Buena Park Police Department

505
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:57,260
with the successful record of accomplishments.

506
00:40:57,260 --> 00:41:06,080
He has a necessary experience and superior leadership qualities to lead the department, combined with the respect of myself and other city staff.

507
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,200
His regional law enforcement peers and the community to ensure a smooth transition.

508
00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:16,880
The city manager is requesting approval of an employment agreement with the new police chief effective July 4th, 2026.

509
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:26,680
Prior to this agreement, the city manager and the interim chief entered into discussions to an agreement and employment agreement to reflect changes to the police chief salary range.

510
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:34,220
fringe benefits as I will summarize for the public. The police chief's conversation will be

511
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:43,880
$23,972 per month. I'm sorry, $23,972 per month. It is important to note that in an effort

512
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,020
to promote transparency in the chief's conversation, the city manager and the police chief agreed

513
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:53,440
that the police chief will receive an additional longevity pay equal to 3%. As well as the educational

514
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:00,120
pay equal to 10%. Secondly, the police chief will continue to receive all the fringe benefits

515
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:07,020
provided under the police management association in will you. There is no budget impact on the

516
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:12,160
fiscal year 2627 general fund budget with this action because the two salary is already included

517
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,060
for this fiscal year. Mayor, this concludes my report and I'm available for questions at this time.

518
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Any public comment?

519
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,640
No comment.

520
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,980
I'll start with a comment.

521
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,580
Not to you, Eddie.

522
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,980
I'm care about you on this item.

523
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,300
The person who matters on this item, we are thrilled that you are official chief.

524
00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:30,740
Very exciting.

525
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:32,320
The interim period.

526
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,260
In my opinion, went a little bit.

527
00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:38,020
Well, I just think that we got to write a wrong a little bit.

528
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,900
We are far past the six month mark.

529
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:41,500
We're a few months, a couple months past that.

530
00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,040
So I'm going to remake an amendment.

531
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880
I'll actually start off just by making a motion before turning over free

532
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:53,560
second comments to amend the date where this is effective to instead be six months after

533
00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:00,220
then interim chief guy or started his term as interim chief, so that would be June 18th would

534
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:04,340
be the effective date. My understanding is the dollars and cents to that. This is only about

535
00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:08,480
a thousand dollar difference. To me, it's just about keeping the promise consistent with what we've

536
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,380
done with prior chiefs of a six month interim. So that's going to be my my motion. I don't know

537
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:18,320
There's a second, and then I'll turn it over for additional comments.

538
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,540
I'll second.

539
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:20,620
All right.

540
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Motion and a second.

541
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,560
Can I make just a suggestion just from a kind of HR payroll perspective,

542
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,700
the beginning of the pay period that encompasses or that is close to that data is

543
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:31,980
June 20th.

544
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:37,580
Again, we're talking about two days, but you'll owe the new chief, or the chief, a coffee

545
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,340
to make up for that.

546
00:43:38,340 --> 00:43:42,760
So June 20th will be, we'll be my motion, does the second.

547
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,720
This is Vice Mayor Oak. Okay with the amendment. All right. Any additional comments,

548
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:55,560
I'll turn to motions before we call for the vote. All right. Seeing none. So we'll select our vote here.

549
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:01,180
The motion carried unanimously. All right. Congratulations, Chief.

550
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:07,200
Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate

551
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,500
it. I can all account some members. Vice Mayor also. Looking forward to serve in this great city.

552
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,940
I've been here for the half of my life. It'll be 29 years coming up.

553
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:18,080
And I couldn't think of another place that a rather work.

554
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,780
Love the people, love the community,

555
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,920
and look forward to the next chapter in my career.

556
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:25,860
And Chief.

557
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,240
We're excited.

558
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,140
Congratulations again, well deserved.

559
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,460
And seeing that we're before six o'clock,

560
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,660
oh, wait, let me make sure.

561
00:44:34,860 --> 00:44:35,500
There's no more.

562
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:36,880
I think public hearing was next.

563
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,720
Yeah, it's public hearing cannot be until six.

564
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,220
And so what we'll do is we'll go on to our council member reports

565
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:45,260
and calendarings since that usually takes about 10 minutes or so

566
00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:49,280
unless all of us are long-winded, like mine might end up being a little bit.

567
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,540
So we'll just call on these on the order that they appear on the screen.

568
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:55,180
All right.

569
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:55,680
That's what we're trying to do.

570
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,960
Thank you. I have very few things to report this time around, but I have 100...

571
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,120
We're sending attendance at all summer concert events, and the movie at the park at Whittaker Park this time around. So that was really nice. I do have one report since I am the delegate for the Bridges at Cramer. The update is, by the way, Bridges at Cramer is our county shelter. So they have moved from Mercy House to path for their contract, and I just wanted to let the public know that the counties moving forward in that direction.

572
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,740
other than that. There's just some adjustment periods and their staff is currently getting up to date with

573
00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:43,040
with their new contract. Lastly, I have kudos for a public works department and my way over here.

574
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:49,460
I saw a couple of gentlemen scraping the stickers and removing graffiti from the rear side of a

575
00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:54,700
median sign. That's does important too. In the fact that our public works is paying attention to

576
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,540
that makes me really happy.

577
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,820
You've also noticed that there has been minimal

578
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:02,640
to no graffiti on the five freeway on ramp

579
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,180
from Beach Boulevard, including the walls

580
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:07,300
behind the dealerships.

581
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,220
So Kudos to our city manager and all of our staff,

582
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,580
all of public sports director,

583
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,380
and of course the public work staff

584
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:17,320
that makes Buena Park look great every single day.

585
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,220
So that's it, I yield, thank you.

586
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:21,660
All right, Councilor Brown.

587
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,240
It's been pretty light in the past few weeks.

588
00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:33,740
It attended the Sanitation Trusty Board meeting,

589
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:41,840
and went to, oh, this was a pretty neat event at the Daniels Truth.

590
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,020
I would want to recognize that Sarah Coppings

591
00:46:46,020 --> 00:46:50,480
really helped this special project take-off

592
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:58,720
with the business local business and that the local hotels to develop a certain

593
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:04,520
point of park fragrances. I think I've had some pictures following this. So, we'll show

594
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,540
that in a minute. Summer concerts at the Boisering Park was also great. Thank you for

595
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:13,920
putting up another great event.

596
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,980
And I've also attended several other nonprofit groups

597
00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:28,740
events and meetings. It had very productive representation there. Can we move on to the video?

598
00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:38,980
Thank you for that special. I think she's gone.

599
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Yeah, you want to do it again? One more time?

600
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:43,840
I like that cute move.

601
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:49,150
It's not, it's not.

602
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:50,450
It's not.

603
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:53,510
It was a great turnout.

604
00:47:54,010 --> 00:48:06,410
Now, these photos are really, like, just a cool way to present products such as a tiny little bottle of perfume.

605
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:09,750
And I thought it was needed to share with a public.

606
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:18,370
And these will be displayed at local hotels, and just a quick photo.

607
00:48:18,850 --> 00:48:23,710
And this is also a pop-up store at the source mall that I stopped by.

608
00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:26,530
And then my report, nothing to calendar.

609
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:34,210
Oh, this is another youth conference event that was held in Bonaparte.

610
00:48:34,210 --> 00:48:51,470
And I was one of the panelists to encourage future political leaders in the, with the next generation and that's, I think that's it and nothing to calendar end of my report.

611
00:48:51,470 --> 00:49:01,470
All right, next slide, I attended several things. I'm not going to go through all of them.

612
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:07,090
But let's go to the next screen. I had quite a few pictures tonight.

613
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:14,110
On July 17, I attended the Hacks, batting cages, ribbon cutting at the mall.

614
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:19,230
And Council Member Franco was there as well. Oh, he didn't mention anything.

615
00:49:19,810 --> 00:49:21,630
Did you swing a baseball bat?

616
00:49:22,050 --> 00:49:22,310
Did you hit?

617
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:23,650
I did not.

618
00:49:23,970 --> 00:49:24,250
Since my...

619
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:25,550
No one saw that.

620
00:49:25,550 --> 00:49:25,650
No one saw that.

621
00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:28,690
Ter, I'm not swinging anything.

622
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:32,930
But a great new business.

623
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,530
They're planning to do to give a lot back to the community.

624
00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:39,950
There was so much excitement there from the kids.

625
00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:42,490
Great place to take kids.

626
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:45,230
Next slide.

627
00:49:46,530 --> 00:49:47,450
On July 26,

628
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:56,770
I attended Lumi Poliza and the concert in the park. There were a lot of different exhibitions

629
00:49:56,770 --> 00:50:03,390
going on there. Orange County Power Authority was there with a truck that had different building

630
00:50:03,390 --> 00:50:12,630
materials and a cooking demonstration, almost our entire, now I think our entire climate action

631
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:20,010
mission was there assisting with everything. If you go to the next screen, there's more pictures

632
00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:28,530
from Louis Vuitton. It was really a well-attended and great event and I want to thank everybody

633
00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:36,610
that contributed to that. Some great food handed out there by our chef that attended and teaching

634
00:50:36,610 --> 00:50:44,970
everybody had a how to cook on an induction stove top. All right, next slide.

635
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:50,690
I also went to Daniel's truth on August 5th for the Point of Park Fragrance

636
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:58,310
reveal. They created two fragrances for Point of Park that are going to be in many

637
00:50:58,310 --> 00:51:07,690
of our hotels, gift sets available, including the perfume and candles.

638
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:18,590
They had a great spread and a poison berry mock tail that was really delicious, and

639
00:51:18,590 --> 00:51:23,350
they put a smoke bubble on top of it, it's like a really fancy fancy deal.

640
00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:32,930
The sense are wonderful if you get a chance to go and in one of our hotels and check them out.

641
00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:37,210
I don't know of it any other city that has its own fragrance.

642
00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:49,670
One of them is a boys and very sort of based in the others called Sweet Society and they're both absolutely wonderful.

643
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:53,950
So Daniel Street is a unique store, highly recommended.

644
00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:56,030
All right, next screen.

645
00:51:57,190 --> 00:52:03,330
National night out and the last concert of the series in the park

646
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:05,650
had our entire PD,

647
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:13,630
the SWAT team that it was a very popular event for families.

648
00:52:13,930 --> 00:52:19,490
You can see by that middle picture there, how many people were there that night.

649
00:52:19,490 --> 00:52:29,130
It was extremely well attended and people were having a blast and then the last screen a few more pictures from that event.

650
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:59,180
I wanted to show this down at the bottom there. We've got our many of our staff and volunteers that work so hard to put these events on warm members of our police department. And we are very grateful to Ed Cow for their support of our concerts in the park. And the band will kick it. They were, they were really awesome. I have nothing to calendar and that's it.

651
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,280
All right, bye, Samantha.

652
00:53:03,530 --> 00:53:08,930
OK, so for reasons that are rather obvious, I don't

653
00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:10,450
have a lot of events attended.

654
00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:15,910
But I only attended 33% of concerts this summer, unfortunately.

655
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:17,930
But that's enough.

656
00:53:18,050 --> 00:53:20,150
That's enough for the students enough.

657
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:20,750
Sorry.

658
00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:27,830
But I was really bummed that I missed out.

659
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:31,710
But one wonderful job to community services

660
00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:35,970
for always putting out such wonderful concerts for our community.

661
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:45,030
To some really quick traffic update, I'd a resident that reached out, that talked about

662
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:52,090
some concerns around holder and Lincoln, and so regarding visibility issues, and I reached

663
00:53:52,090 --> 00:54:00,230
out to public works, and within a few days there was new improvements that included striping

664
00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:02,770
and use southbound right turnpocket.

665
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:07,570
We installed red curvil on holder to improve that site distance.

666
00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:11,290
We refresh the pavement markings on all the southbound lanes.

667
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:15,090
And we restriped the yellow sun and lines and lane departure markings.

668
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:18,750
And it looks really nice and it's a lot safer.

669
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:23,030
All of this is to help the traffic flow increase the driver awareness.

670
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:26,250
And again, enhance that overall safety and the intersection.

671
00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:30,130
So thank you again to public works for immediately working on that.

672
00:54:30,130 --> 00:54:32,050
and I reached out about that concern.

673
00:54:32,570 --> 00:54:33,450
Now, it looks great.

674
00:54:34,850 --> 00:54:39,010
And then, I do have one item that I would like to calendar.

675
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:46,870
I'd like to agendas a discussion on developing a city vacant property

676
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:50,410
ordinance addressing both commercial and residential properties.

677
00:54:50,990 --> 00:54:54,110
I've noticed several vacant properties and empty lots,

678
00:54:54,130 --> 00:54:56,690
particularly in district four.

679
00:54:56,690 --> 00:55:16,490
And I think, and of course, throughout when a park, and I think this is an opportunity for us to take a more proactive approach, vacant properties, can sometimes contribute to light, public safety concerns and additional demands on city resources, including code enforcement, police and fire.

680
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:25,310
For example, I recently had to deal with some stuff that happened at the Ralph's parking lot on ball road.

681
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There's relatively large vacant space.

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It's used for street racing.

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You haul trucks are parked there for days at a time.

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We've seen transient activity.

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So I'd really like for us to explore mechanisms and programs that encourage communication with property owners,

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promote proper maintenance and help move that vacant commercial and residential properties towards productive use.

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Again, it's really important that we take a proactive and balanced approach.

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We want to support our property owners and business community,

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but we also need to fulfill our responsibility to our residents to ensure that the vacant properties are maintained,

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safe and do not become a source of light or unnecessary demands on city resources.

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So, that's it on my end, thank you, Mayor.

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All right, and then just a few on mine, but first, thank you to our city manager and just the staff who makes,

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basically makes it happen.

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So we had a lot of roads in district five that were repaved over the summer.

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And as of mid last week, there was the paint on the ground, including for the crosswalks near the elementary schools was not there.

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And so thanks Aaron for, in the rest of the staff for making that happen, they used, I'll just read with what it's called thermoplastic road making or marking a compound. So it's a really reflective paint.

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They got it done for stay a school tomorrow and everything is painted and looks incredible. So thanks for getting on that quick.

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July 22nd, Lumie Palooza incredible work by, by Lotus as well as the entire climate action commission for making that happen.

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I've seen like a big success as well as all the other staff who stepped up to participate in it.

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Especially those that were on the bikes that that that was a making the artwork and making the drinks.

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I know that yeah, it seemed like a very fun it was a very fun event.

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Let's see any more to really highlight from here.

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Police Department swearing in ceremony was an incredible event where we had a few new officers.

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we all set a promotion in dispatch. Those are always exciting moments to see how many officers

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we're bringing in and how many more we have gone through the academy while other cities are

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making cuts left and right. We continue to expand. Big thank you really, I mean to the voters

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for making that happen with our sales tax measure.

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Let's see. Also through on here on the eighth

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former school board member here in Winnipeark, named Ian McDonald's had his white coat ceremony

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I just want to give a shout out, congratulations.

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That means these school in the med school, medical school, and keeping consistent on the medical side.

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I thought I'd give a detailed update from the OCFA Operations Committee.

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We met today, in fact, it ended basically right before our council meeting started.

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And a few major changes on specifically ambulance response and firefighter response related to medical aid calls that I think are important to mention.

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So our county under our former EMS Director in my opinion was held back on improvements to patient care. Fortunately, that person is gone and so some of the changes that are happening. One of them includes more options for pain management for our EMS and BLS providers.

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all it really means those that are in ambulances and those that are in in the fire trucks that

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go out and engines to medical aid calls. So for pain management now we have a ketamine instead

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of just or instead of things like fentanyl I know there's a lot of concern as there should be on

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fentanyl and dosage we're looking at moving to being based on weight because when you had it

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be a standardized dosage for pain management you have to call 911. The problem is if you weigh more

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you're still getting the standard dose as someone who may be a woman who weighs 120 pounds

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was getting the same dose as we'll just say a man weighing 300 pounds. Clearly that doesn't

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it doesn't make sense. So we're finally catching up to the rest of the counties and so

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and also focusing on nausea and allergic reaction medication improvements that we have not

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had access to before. So a lot of people don't know this. I didn't know it until getting on OCFA.

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The county, EMS, and medical directors, they control through the board of supervisors, but they control a lot of what you can and can't have in services in these medical aid responses. So it's critical. We have someone there who listens to doctors and we finally have that.

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There's going to be changes to how we treat severe hemorrhage by using it's called TXA to stop heavy bleeding. Again, that's something that's going to save lives.

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we're still the only county in all of Southern California.

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This is not allowed pre-hospital blood, so if you're out in the field or if you're in a car accident,

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they're not going to do blood transfusion or giving you blood when you're out there, our county does not allow it.

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We're finally changing that to allow that, which again is mind boggling the amount of lives we've lost because of not allowing that.

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And the final thing I'll just mention, there was a law and list, but these are some that are just the more important ones I think are important to touch on, just for awareness.

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It's called bidirectional hospital data sharing.

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So basically using, and the only way we could ever do this,

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there would never be the manpower behind it,

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is utilizing AI systems that basically fully hit the compliant,

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takes the data for hospital data,

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learning about the outcomes of these transports,

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to basically, on aggregate,

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no information to the exact person,

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but to improve care,

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crew training and thus patient outcomes in the future,

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that is going live tomorrow at noon here in Orange County. So a lot of incredible updates out of OCAFA,

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the OCAFA medical director has really been one of the driving forces behind a lot of these changes

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as have some incredible workers within the agency. I just felt a lot of that was important to

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share so you know that you're just more aware too that what happens with the ambulances there's a

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lot of control the county has and it's good that we're moving in the right direction to catch up to

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report, do you want to take a break? Or do we want to go straight into the public hearing?

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All right, not seeing anyone wanting to take a break. So we will go to, we're going to go back

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to item 6A. This is the public hearing. Consideration of adopting a resolution authorizing

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the city of Buena Park to join the California statewide communities development authority

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and participate in the statewide community infrastructure program. So this is the time and place

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for public hearing to consider,

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that's making you read the same thing in exactly what I just read.

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01:01:57,810 --> 01:01:59,810
I would like to call on Matt Folk's Director

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of Community and Economic Development.

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You're already there, already ready to give the report.

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01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:07,330
Thank you, Mayor Trot and Members of the City Council.

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You also just read my introduction to paragraphs.

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I won't read it for a third time,

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but a couple acronyms that we're going to use

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a few times throughout my brief presentation.

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C.S.C.D.A. does stand for the California Statewide Community

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development authority and then the other acronym that we're going to hear a couple of times

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this skip or SCIP which is the statewide community infrastructure program. We would not be

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good government if we're not using long acronym. So those are the two that are going to come up a few

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times this evening. The item before you as the mayor mentioned is consideration of joining the CSCDA.

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This request is coming before the City Council for his consideration as a request from a developer

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and property owner at 5,600 Beach Boulevard, which is the former Amway Neutralite property.

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The city council approved an entitlement for redevelopment of this site with residential

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development earlier this year, and not long after the developer came forward requesting the city

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considered joining this joint powers authority, and I will explain why here in a moment.

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The primary reason the developer is interested in pursuing the SCIP or skip is that it would

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allow them to finance the payment of development impact fees through the formation of a special

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assessment district. So whenever a development project comes through our city, there are fees paid,

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there's direct fees, which are things around building plan check, building permit issuance,

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planning entitlements. And then we have another set of fees, which are called development impact fees.

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And these are really getting around the actual costs of additional services, things like water,

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sewer parks and these are called impacts of development. We are impact development fees. This

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developer is looking to finance those impact development fees, specifically our parks impact

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development fee through this finance mechanism by the state. The CSEDA, as I mentioned, is a joint

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powers authority which was sponsored by the League of California cities. There are over 500 cities,

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counties and special districts as members throughout the state, including a number in Orange County.

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The CSCDA was formed back in the late 1980s and then the skip program or the SCIP program was formed in early 2002.

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Since 2002, the skip program has issued over 1 billion in special assessment and CFD bonds for development projects statewide.

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If a property owner applies to participate in the skip program and the city approves that application.

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the selected improvements or related impact fees that will be owed to the city are

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financed through the issuance of bonds by the CSEDA. So the CSEDA is this joint

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powers authority, they issue the bonds and then it's paid to the bonds and proceeds

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are paid to the city for whether it's development impact fees or potential capital

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improvements. The CSEDA will form the community facilities district or the

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future property owners within that development to repay the bonds, typically the bond repayment

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period is between 20 and 30 years. This bond repayment is made known to potential buyers

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within that development. So when you go to buy in a given residential project, you'll see

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your estimated mortgage, you'll see your HOA, and then this will be a separate line item on your

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property taxes, which will be called a special assessment district or a CFD, and then what that

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is. Typically that amount ranges from between $1,200 a year and in some cases can be up to

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$5 or $6,000 a year. It really depends on how much the developer or property owner wishes

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to finance, how many units are in the development and then the size of the units. So larger units

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pay a little bit more, smaller units pay a little bit less. The developer then will pay those

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01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:59,890
development fees at the time of either building permit issuance and are either paying us

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01:05:59,890 --> 01:06:04,570
being reimbursed by the bonds or depending on the timing. If the bonds are already released,

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then we would be paid directly out of the bond proceeds. Importantly, the city is never on the hook

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for having to repay those bonds. They are administered by the CSCDA. They are repaid by those

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future property owners. The city's role is really just joining this joint powers authority to allow

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the CSCDA to administer this program on behalf of the city in that specific development. Once the

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are fully repaid, that assessment drops off of your annual property taxes for the property owners

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that live in that development, and it no longer gets assessed. The city, importantly, the city

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has to requisition those funds. So we get paid those development impacts fees. For example,

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a parks impact fee. When we go to make park improvements, our finance department, along with our

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public works department, we'll make a requisition for the bond proceeds that it went to pay for.

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And then we would use those bond proceeds to pay for that park improvement, for example, if it

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was a parks impact fee. If it was a sewer or water impact fee, the proceeds have to go towards

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the specific impact fee that was paid. So we can't use parks money to pay for sewers. We can't use

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sewers money to pay for parks. It has to be paid for the impact fee that ties directly to the impact.

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As I mentioned, the city is not liable to repay the bonds. And the CSCDA handles district formation,

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district administration, bond issuance as well as bond administration over the 20 or 30.

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The proposed resolution before you this evening is authorizing us to join the C.S.C.D.A. and allow the C.S.C.D.A to accept applications from future

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developers and property owners within Buena Park to apply for these taxisent financing and public improvements

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or the payment of development-related impact fees through the skip program. It also authorizes the C.S.C.D.A to form assessment districts

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or community facilities districts within the city as part of those future development projects.

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So this is not something that a one-off property owner, a homeowner is not going to apply to

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form a taxes and bond to pay for their ADU impact fee. This is going to be large residential developments,

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multi-family, four-scale product typically because an a four-rent project doesn't

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typically qualify for CSCDA or bond financing. So just to be clear on what type of projects

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will be looking at. Once an application is received by the participating developer and the project is

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approved by the city, the CSEDA handles all the district formation and district administration over

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the term. Staff is presenting the attached resolution for city council consideration.

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If the city chooses to join the CSEDA, but then in the future, which is to exit or remove itself

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from the CSEA joint powers authority, it would do so by a resolution at a council action,

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However, any CFDs or assessment districts that are formed during the time the city is a member would remain in place until the bonds are fully repaid.

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So if we decided to get out, but a project had come through and formed an assessment district, that assessment district would carry through the entire 20 or 30 year period.

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But future assessment districts or CFDs could be removed.

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That is the end of staff's presentation, and I would be happy to answer any questions.

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All right, first let's do the public, well, any questions before open it up for the public hearing portion.

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All right, so public hearing now open, Madam City Clerk, anyone wishing to speak via Zoom or in person.

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01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:39,990
I have no request to speak, Mayor.

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01:09:40,190 --> 01:09:45,630
Mayor, I just would quickly realize, I recognize Scott, who is from shop off development.

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Shop off is the project at 5600 Beach that kind of made the request for the city to consider this.

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So, I don't, sorry to put you on the spot.

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01:09:53,410 --> 01:09:55,970
Scott, but if there's anything you'd like to come up and add?

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:08,120
No, I got to Chesarei, Chopper Freeldy, just thank you all again for hearing outmat about

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this resolution, really here to answer any questions you may have from applicant, but obviously

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Matt is well-versed and everything as well.

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So, thank you.

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01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:19,840
All right, perfect.

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And seeing that we have no other public comments, I'll just close the public comment portion,

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but if there's questions of course, we'll call you up.

849
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All right, so public hearing portion is now closed.

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So let's turn it over to the city council.

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Questions and comments by council members?

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,080
Starting with council members, honey?

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If we did not do this, what would happen?

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So nothing in some respects.

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So the joining or not joining this joint powers authority

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is entirely within the City Council's discretion, whether Scott would be a better person to answer

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about what the direct impacts are to that project, but there is nothing compelling the city

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to join or not join. There are 500 city statewide that have joined, but there are many, many

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01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:20,100
others that have chosen not to be part of the CSCDA. I'd like to know what would happen with this

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01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,660
a particular project if we did not.

861
01:11:24,460 --> 01:11:25,320
Thank you, Councillor.

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01:11:26,180 --> 01:11:29,840
So for us, the ability to finance the project

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allows it to be affordable for our home builder

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to be able to build a project and that's

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really the main if it is for doing this.

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,700
We want to build our homes and this allows us to deliver them

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at a way that we can do so from a home building perspective.

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01:11:47,540 --> 01:11:51,020
So if we didn't, are you saying that you could not afford

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to develop this project.

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01:11:52,460 --> 01:11:56,100
It would make it much, much, much more difficult, yes, to do so.

871
01:11:57,860 --> 01:11:59,480
Okay, thank you.

872
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:02,710
Councilmember Franco.

873
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:03,750
Thank you, Mayor.

874
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:07,370
Matt, first of all, you said that 500 other cities

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have joined on this in the state of California.

876
01:12:10,030 --> 01:12:10,050
Yes.

877
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:13,450
Aren't there only about 500 cities in the state of California?

878
01:12:13,670 --> 01:12:16,650
There's a few more than that, but there is a most arm members.

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01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:18,150
OK.

880
01:12:18,610 --> 01:12:21,910
Well, because it includes counties in special districts, so it's

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not just cities that can join the CSEDA,

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01:12:24,150 --> 01:12:26,910
a county can join to administer and special district.

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01:12:27,550 --> 01:12:29,010
So the overall number gets bigger,

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but you're right to conclude there are quite a few.

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01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:35,030
I just thought there was like 480 cities in California,

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but I'm not gonna debate that.

887
01:12:36,850 --> 01:12:38,970
I'm curious about the control that the state

888
01:12:38,970 --> 01:12:40,550
might have over our territory.

889
01:12:41,810 --> 01:12:43,910
So this is a joint powers authority,

890
01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:46,490
so it's not state in that respect.

891
01:12:47,170 --> 01:12:50,530
They would, if we joined and an assessment district was formed,

892
01:12:50,530 --> 01:12:57,930
they would have authority to collect on the assessment within the project where the assessment

893
01:12:57,930 --> 01:13:03,410
district is formed. So that is, in some respects, giving up some level of control because

894
01:13:03,410 --> 01:13:07,930
there would be an outside entity that on your property taxes, if you're a homeowner in this

895
01:13:07,930 --> 01:13:13,410
development, you will be making a payment to this assessment district. Separate of the city's

896
01:13:13,410 --> 01:13:13,810
control.

897
01:13:14,230 --> 01:13:19,930
Absolutely. Local control is always very important to me, anywhere where we can expand

898
01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:26,490
our resources without losing control is something that my mind would steer towards.

899
01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:31,490
I'm a little lukewarm, especially fearing the fact that there is no negative consequence

900
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:37,750
to the city by joining this. So I will yield until I hear more from my colleagues. Thank

901
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:40,900
you. Councillor Vassani.

902
01:13:41,660 --> 01:13:48,840
Sorry. If I'm a homeowner in this project and this fee is on my property tax.

903
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,120
And I pay

904
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:59,140
everything in my property tax except this fee. How are they? What are the consequences to the

905
01:13:59,140 --> 01:13:59,660
homeowner?

906
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,240
I'm not sure if I know the answer that, but I think it would be Chris closure at the

907
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:15,500
end of the day they could for. By him. Well, the county I believe. But you paid you property. You've paid

908
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:22,120
what you owed to the county. The county doesn't. It's on the rules the same way property taxes. So the

909
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:28,700
enforcement mechanism is the same. It becomes a lean on the property. And any lean on

910
01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:37,780
property can be foreclosed on. And so by joining the county accepts the responsibility.

911
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:44,960
Good Minister, correct? Okay. All right. I've never heard of this. So I have a lot of questions about

912
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,800
So you may have heard that there are mellow ruse, is that a term that you guys, that sound familiar?

913
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:57,780
Mellow ruse is the legal precedent that allows for cities and counties to create assessment districts

914
01:14:57,780 --> 01:14:59,540
or community facilities districts.

915
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,040
Many developments in our surrounding cities, Europe, Linda, Brea, Tustin, Irvine, Fullerton. This is

916
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:17,960
a sort of a common financing tool for residential developers to finance improvements, or in this

917
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:24,200
case, the payment of impact fees. So it's not something when a park has done, so this is definitely

918
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:29,980
a little bit of new territory for our city, but it is a very common tool implemented by residential

919
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:38,920
developers in the immediate county as well as the region. And is there any difference in the

920
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:50,410
total amount that the homeowner pays for this depending on how it's, you know, I assume that

921
01:15:50,410 --> 01:15:57,410
The cost are going to be pushed down to the homeowner, no matter what kind of cost it is.

922
01:15:58,550 --> 01:16:05,790
Is there more or less interest that accrues because it comes to property tax?

923
01:16:06,170 --> 01:16:16,150
Is it if you made it a set amount added to the price of the unit rather than a part of the property tax?

924
01:16:16,770 --> 01:16:18,630
Does it change?

925
01:16:20,830 --> 01:16:25,810
What potentially what the homeowner pays and the long run for this?

926
01:16:28,990 --> 01:16:31,090
I would welcome Scott back now.

927
01:16:31,090 --> 01:16:32,530
Happy to hear from the applicant.

928
01:16:33,370 --> 01:16:36,410
A bond is alone and it carries interest rate.

929
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:36,890
Right?

930
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:40,450
So if you take out a $50 million bond hypothetically and you pay it back,

931
01:16:40,570 --> 01:16:42,390
you pay more than $50 million over time.

932
01:16:43,210 --> 01:16:43,330
Right?

933
01:16:43,450 --> 01:16:47,450
So if you were to divide up the present day cost of these improvements

934
01:16:47,450 --> 01:16:52,270
right to check now versus financing that over 30 years it would cost less now.

935
01:16:52,650 --> 01:16:58,670
Correct. Okay. So it's that if someone paid cash for their unit and paid for the whole

936
01:16:58,670 --> 01:17:05,570
thing up front and it was included in the cost of the unit then they would pay less than if it's

937
01:17:05,570 --> 01:17:13,850
a part of their property tax that it's paid over 20, 25 years. Not that I've seen there's very few

938
01:17:13,850 --> 01:17:17,810
people that can afford to pay cash for their unit.

939
01:17:18,330 --> 01:17:21,730
Yes, my understanding in City Attorney may have a better

940
01:17:21,730 --> 01:17:27,530
understanding of this is that this is a fixed fee that gets put

941
01:17:27,530 --> 01:17:32,050
over 20, 30 years. And so that dollar amount is assessed on that

942
01:17:32,050 --> 01:17:35,850
property for 20 to 30 years. So even if you pay up front, that doesn't

943
01:17:35,850 --> 01:17:42,370
change the fee that is collected from the county. And so

944
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:47,330
You know, that amount stays with the property for that long and that after that time period

945
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:48,690
then it goes away.

946
01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:52,710
So let's just say it's $100 a month, that stays with that property.

947
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:56,630
You sell the property, you're still not on the hook for the new property owner is the one

948
01:17:56,630 --> 01:18:02,290
who pays that $100 a month until the expiration of the, of the, of the bond.

949
01:18:04,230 --> 01:18:10,830
So you're saying you would not make it an increase in the cost of the unit itself, even if

950
01:18:10,830 --> 01:18:12,650
that we're not part of the property text,

951
01:18:12,910 --> 01:18:15,170
you would make it a monthly charge.

952
01:18:15,770 --> 01:18:17,970
That's typically how those work monthly

953
01:18:17,970 --> 01:18:21,730
or quarterly, depending on how it's kind of put out.

954
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:24,590
And so that doesn't affect the cost of the home,

955
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:26,590
specifically, it does actually decrease

956
01:18:26,590 --> 01:18:28,230
the basis of the home typically

957
01:18:28,750 --> 01:18:30,990
because there's less fee to build the home.

958
01:18:32,150 --> 01:18:34,370
Which means that the property text is lower.

959
01:18:35,050 --> 01:18:35,070
Right.

960
01:18:35,530 --> 01:18:35,770
Okay.

961
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:37,810
All right, thank you.

962
01:18:37,810 --> 01:18:43,530
Sorry for all of these detailed questions, I'd say.

963
01:18:43,530 --> 01:18:45,810
Any other questions or comments from council?

964
01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:46,970
Oh, yeah, council and we're on it.

965
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:48,790
OK.

966
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:52,790
A few questions for both of you.

967
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:12,820
So the first off, why was it brought up now rather than before this issue

968
01:19:12,820 --> 01:19:22,940
of Belarus. Was there a reason for the timing of this, after a consideration of your financial

969
01:19:22,940 --> 01:19:28,800
situation, building costs and whatever. Have you, is a why or, in other words, you

970
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,760
know, we could have discussed this before when we were approving the project.

971
01:19:32,900 --> 01:19:40,940
So, the CSCDA through their own guidelines recommends that a council doesn't consider the formation

972
01:19:40,940 --> 01:19:45,560
until after the entitlements are approved but before the building permits are issued.

973
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:52,100
So it's unrelated to whether or not the project entitlements and in most cases they

974
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:56,680
recommend that the project entitlements are approved, then it's consideration of an assessment

975
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,800
district or a community facilities district prior to building permits actually being issued

976
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,640
to construct the project. So that's why we kind of are in this time period.

977
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:11,820
Okay, so we don't have Meloruz in Bonaparte, right?

978
01:20:11,860 --> 01:20:18,400
Bonaparte does, Raya does, and a few other cities nearby, and from my understanding,

979
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:20,880
this

980
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:31,400
type of bond measure for property tax for the newly developed housing is more,

981
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:34,450
it's to

982
01:20:34,450 --> 01:20:38,950
save on the cost of construction cost and whatnot, right?

983
01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:42,010
Or financial burden of the developers, right?

984
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,340
I'm trying to figure out, yeah.

985
01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:48,280
We very much appreciate Scott is here,

986
01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:50,560
because he's giving the perspective of the shop off.

987
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,580
If the city does elect to join the CSCDA,

988
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:56,660
it would be applicable, there would be future developments

989
01:20:56,660 --> 01:20:58,940
that would be able to take advantage of it.

990
01:20:59,340 --> 01:21:02,260
So I don't want to tie these things too closely together,

991
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,160
but as it relates to the shop off development,

992
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,680
which we recently approved, Scott's happy to answer.

993
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:14,690
Yeah, so the goal of this is also to decrease home prices,

994
01:21:14,770 --> 01:21:18,130
because by having decreased initial cost burden

995
01:21:18,130 --> 01:21:21,990
by developer home builder, homes can come at lower prices.

996
01:21:22,410 --> 01:21:24,870
And therefore, you're going to have lower property tax spaces

997
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:30,970
and it makes an easier for home owners to get into properties

998
01:21:30,970 --> 01:21:36,110
because the cost of the home typically will be lower

999
01:21:36,110 --> 01:21:42,590
because you're able to get into, because you're able to have a less of a cost to put a project

1000
01:21:42,590 --> 01:21:48,630
together, whether it be construction costs or development fees. I know that when we discuss

1001
01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:55,870
this project initially, that the asking price or the self price will be market price at market price.

1002
01:21:56,150 --> 01:22:01,450
Are you, is that still your goal? Yeah. Okay, so how would you make that affordability

1003
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:06,070
added into this picture of a market price thing.

1004
01:22:06,430 --> 01:22:13,610
So typically projects of this size, it's especially in California, it becomes a pretty

1005
01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:21,310
standard method in order to finance such large projects because fees can be quite exorbitant

1006
01:22:21,310 --> 01:22:26,690
at the same time in order to get financing for projects using tools like this helps

1007
01:22:28,770 --> 01:22:29,970
products to be able to move.

1008
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:41,300
We need to move forward, because there's tools that developers or home builders can use in order to decrease the burden to bring product to market.

1009
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:52,760
Right. So it kind of, it helps your profit margin as well, right, because you're saving on the cost of building interest in one not.

1010
01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:56,500
I don't know how much you're saving, but I'm just trying to, like, understand the whole picture.

1011
01:22:56,500 --> 01:23:00,520
Yeah, and they're, I understand that perspective, but it also helps

1012
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:09,880
Developers and folks raise capital so they can put projects together and build projects. So it's, it all, it all kind of works together.

1013
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:17,920
Okay, so let's say if the Miller use was created or implemented for this particular site.

1014
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:34,860
We're what are we talking about like, I know that depending on the size of the property, it may differ, but the average that an average of homeowner in one park pace, about 1.2% property tax that we pay twice a year, okay.

1015
01:23:34,860 --> 01:23:43,040
So, I know that there was a number of floating around that was like $200 extra per month.

1016
01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:48,640
Total $2,400 for this particular project, $2,400 for Miller's fee annually.

1017
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:49,660
Is that right?

1018
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:59,000
So, the goal of this would be, so the typical $1.2, the goal of this is to not exceed 1.4% on overall tax.

1019
01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:01,220
So, it would be 0.3.

1020
01:24:01,220 --> 01:24:08,760
depending on your pages yeah average right point yeah point three point four yeah point oh yeah point oh three point oh four yeah

1021
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,060
something like that yeah point yeah yeah yeah we're talking we're saying the same thing it's like

1022
01:24:14,060 --> 01:24:28,880
0.3% or 0.4% correct which brings up your property taxes from average 1.18 or 1.2 to as high as 1.4 or 1.5

1023
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,880
percent of your current property value.

1024
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,000
Yeah, we wouldn't be the goal is not to get to 1.5.

1025
01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:42,740
Or a typical market is going to be around the 1.4 market.

1026
01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:43,920
Around 1.4.

1027
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:44,700
Okay.

1028
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:51,980
Does it different just kind of for my to learn about the system?

1029
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,380
Is it how much you're asking for the bond?

1030
01:24:54,740 --> 01:24:57,280
The total amount of bond that you'll be asking for

1031
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:03,580
that will determine the rate. Correct. I mean it's it's a little bit of both on there's

1032
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:12,660
a rate that is a typical market rate for this type of service and you know depending on what

1033
01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:19,440
fees maybe associated with that that's it just kind of depends how we're looking at it. I see.

1034
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:30,900
So your builder is Lanar and I believe they have other developments in the city of Fullerton, is that right?

1035
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,840
I believe so, I'm not, you know, exactly sure what you're.

1036
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:46,540
Okay, because there's a new housing development that is also has implemented Miller's in that new neighborhood and their rate is 0.4.

1037
01:25:46,540 --> 01:25:52,900
on top of Fullerton's average property tax rate.

1038
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,840
So I'm just trying to figure out what the rate will be in the city of Bonapark.

1039
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:06,220
If we allowed this to happen, just double-checking.

1040
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:07,600
Okay.

1041
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:14,770
I don't have any more further questions for you.

1042
01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:15,450
Thank you, Scott.

1043
01:26:17,170 --> 01:26:17,790
So,

1044
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,970
this is something you were discussing for the city of Bonaparte.

1045
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:32,970
And I know that Fullerton and is pretty much established city.

1046
01:26:33,690 --> 01:26:41,430
Twice as big as ours, our city is a population of 84, 85,000, and it's only 14.5 square

1047
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:56,330
but sorry, mile, square miles, large, and we have already kind of like nearly fully developed in terms of residential area.

1048
01:26:56,510 --> 01:27:01,410
I know there are certain pockets that we still need to work on, but we have a master housing plan.

1049
01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:26,490
So that said, with considering the new projects that are up and coming like the Sears project or the project off of Dale, the Miller-Rooce never entered the conversation, it's already, I think, the smaller project is being almost near a completion.

1050
01:27:26,490 --> 01:27:35,490
and the Sears Project of 1300, they are creating new roads and drive ways and signal

1051
01:27:35,490 --> 01:27:41,910
lights and new sewer system, or like adding to that on the private property side on their own.

1052
01:27:42,970 --> 01:27:47,770
And we never talked about the Melrose before. Am I right?

1053
01:27:48,110 --> 01:27:51,850
Correct. So the project at the Elma Palma, which is currently under construction,

1054
01:27:51,850 --> 01:27:58,730
that there was never a request, and so we're certainly not offering that up to developers if it's not available in the city.

1055
01:27:59,450 --> 01:28:09,690
The same for the Sears Project, Merlin Gyer, never made any request for the formation of a facility district or assessment district or joining CSCDA.

1056
01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:12,530
And so it was never brought forward for council consideration.

1057
01:28:12,530 --> 01:28:22,830
Okay, so those two projects, they also presented to the council that their town homes will be at market price as well.

1058
01:28:25,090 --> 01:28:25,270
Correct.

1059
01:28:25,930 --> 01:28:26,390
All right.

1060
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:32,230
So, I'm not sure what's changed since last year.

1061
01:28:32,810 --> 01:28:38,810
I'm sure the cost has gone up and I get found on the development side.

1062
01:28:38,810 --> 01:28:44,540
But considering where we are in our city,

1063
01:28:47,400 --> 01:29:03,060
I don't think I can support this item because I philosophically disagree with the implementation of a Belarus tax property taxes basically for the new investors or new owners.

1064
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:06,860
It's a burden on them as well.

1065
01:29:08,620 --> 01:29:17,070
And I'm not sure if that would affect the sale of the property

1066
01:29:17,070 --> 01:29:18,070
or whatever.

1067
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:21,570
I think it's definitely a negative connotation for people.

1068
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:25,690
Up in District 1, for a properties in District 1

1069
01:29:25,690 --> 01:29:29,110
to have Belarus extra property tax charges,

1070
01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:32,170
well as other parts of the city,

1071
01:29:32,170 --> 01:29:39,050
like especially the new, another new development will not have that burden on the new consumer

1072
01:29:39,050 --> 01:29:46,210
or new buyer of the homes. So I'm just trying to like see if there's any like fairness

1073
01:29:46,210 --> 01:29:55,990
and that. And secondly, we are already like established city and developed city like us.

1074
01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:59,970
I don't know if we should have Miller-Rue's type.

1075
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,680
We have developed a precedent for the future developments here. So I'm not sure if I can support this item. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I'm done.

1076
01:30:16,580 --> 01:30:22,320
All right. I'm going to go and then after myself, council member Sonny and then you have stuff after as well.

1077
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:38,020
So what I'm hearing is that the, so the first the benefit on the development argument is hey doing this makes it so project's pencil and you can build it, it's going to help build housing.

1078
01:30:39,540 --> 01:30:41,860
That's on the developer side, that's on building housing.

1079
01:30:42,340 --> 01:30:44,960
So then I think, too, okay, what's the benefit for the homeowners?

1080
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,720
Now clearly they're going to pay this over decades.

1081
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,040
And we're going to, when we're in a affordability crisis

1082
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:54,160
talking on another 2400, whatever, plus not whatever it's

1083
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:59,440
lot per year, instantly I go to after that.

1084
01:30:59,480 --> 01:31:01,480
Well, then the argument for that is yes,

1085
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,840
it's going to be what is a 2400 more, but then on the flip side,

1086
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:05,720
that's going to make.

1087
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,980
because when I hear the arguments of,

1088
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,900
oh, when you increase these costs,

1089
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,480
it's going to make them sell for more.

1090
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:12,880
That's, and you didn't say that tonight.

1091
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:13,740
I just mean in general.

1092
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,800
I think that's a weak or BSR,

1093
01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:20,620
you meant when I do hear that on projects,

1094
01:31:21,700 --> 01:31:24,060
because the pricing is based on the fair market value

1095
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:26,960
unless there's some covenants of restrictions on the pricing.

1096
01:31:27,980 --> 01:31:29,660
So knowing that I want to know,

1097
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:31,080
and that's what I'm trying to write my head around

1098
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:36,220
is doing this, adding this extra cost,

1099
01:31:36,820 --> 01:31:39,140
is there evidence that suggests or proves

1100
01:31:39,140 --> 01:31:42,020
that the fair market value of the property

1101
01:31:42,020 --> 01:31:46,080
will decrease by the amount of that benefit.

1102
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,720
And I look at what the present value analysis of that amount,

1103
01:31:49,740 --> 01:31:52,540
because you can't just put it out over the course 30 years,

1104
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:53,400
clearly there's inflation.

1105
01:31:55,700 --> 01:31:58,300
But that's how I'm looking at this is,

1106
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,620
because you would think that higher property tax fee

1107
01:32:00,620 --> 01:32:03,660
It means lower sale, fair market value, people will calculate that in.

1108
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:05,080
What's my full cost here?

1109
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,800
So it would lower the cost of the unit and clearly in California with $13.

1110
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,280
Our taxes going up, slower.

1111
01:32:10,620 --> 01:32:13,680
Maybe the math does come out to there is that benefit.

1112
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,880
But I'm hearing the concept of that.

1113
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,560
I'm not actually hearing proof in examples.

1114
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,620
So I don't know if we have more details on that kind of benefit and what has actually

1115
01:32:24,620 --> 01:32:26,920
resulted that we can learn about.

1116
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,940
It sucks outing on the extra money to folks, but if the price, if data tells us, it does go down

1117
01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:37,040
at initial purchase price and over the course of time, they're going to save on the property tax

1118
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:41,960
and that initial purchase, and that math typically beats the present value analysis over the course of the

1119
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:48,240
30 years of this cost. Then I think it's a good decision for residents, but I feel like I'm not confident

1120
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,380
in that right now. I think that's why you can tell them kind of on the fence on this item. So I don't know if

1121
01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:56,220
of you are able to answer that or have more information you can share.

1122
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:02,420
I know it's kind of a lot of a question throughout there, but that's what's waiting on me in my head.

1123
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,600
So let me repeat your question back to you and see if I understand it correctly.

1124
01:33:08,180 --> 01:33:20,520
So if you had a listing of projects that had taken advantage that were CSCDA cities that had to

1125
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:26,360
price of the units within that development are less than the fair market sale price of units that are

1126
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:32,100
not within a mellow ruse or assessment district. And that would be evidence to you that

1127
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:37,700
they actual sale price was reduced, which is that property tax reduction implication. Is that

1128
01:33:37,700 --> 01:33:42,280
yeah essentially, and I know that's probably a tough thing to calculate, but when you're

1129
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:46,440
comparing it in maybe a same city, and I don't know if we looked into that because these are questions

1130
01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:49,660
to find answers to it and it was tough to find studies on it.

1131
01:33:49,980 --> 01:33:53,560
Yeah, that's a, that's not an unfair question.

1132
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:59,920
In fact, it's a fair question. I do not have, we did not go down that path of analysis.

1133
01:34:00,460 --> 01:34:05,560
It would be, it would take some time quite honestly. There's, there's also a number of other factors

1134
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:11,720
that go into a home sale price. So comparing even city to city development to development,

1135
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:16,040
how much did they pay for the land initially, how much was the construction cost

1136
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,120
over the soil conditions. That would change the overall construction cost, which would change

1137
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:25,300
the actual and market value. The value of homes in even in our adjoining cities,

1138
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:31,960
Fullerton, differ from home sold in Buena Park because sales regions differ. So you couldn't take

1139
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:38,080
homes in Santa Barbara or the Bay Area. Even if they were mellow rose homes and draw a conclusion,

1140
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:43,160
you'd have to compare non mellow rose homes in that city, compared to mellow rose homes in that city.

1141
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,320
All that is to say, there is maybe something we could do.

1142
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:53,360
I don't think there would be a situation where we could definitively say, beyond what

1143
01:34:53,360 --> 01:35:00,440
shop-off might give anecdotally, that this is guaranteed to lower the actual value of the

1144
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:01,940
home in terms of purchase price.

1145
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:05,780
Yeah, because at the end of the day, oh, I'm really looking at bringing it more broad is

1146
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:10,660
can I argue that us doing this decision was overall the right decision to benefit the residents

1147
01:35:10,660 --> 01:35:17,020
long term and maybe maybe the question I asked wasn't the right question on that. So that's

1148
01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:22,000
why I want to bring it a little more broad. I'm having it tough time seeing or being able to

1149
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:28,740
quantify that benefit because it's just 2400 a year is a lot to add to a homeowner. I know over

1150
01:35:28,740 --> 01:35:34,780
time the present value of that would go down since it's fixed, right? The fixed dollar now not a

1151
01:35:34,780 --> 01:35:39,980
percentage, right? Okay. Um, so is there any, are there any other factors, then we should

1152
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:45,700
be considering, since my more direct one, I know is tough to find him fill on. I tried searching

1153
01:35:45,700 --> 01:35:52,400
it was tough to find it. It just more said. Yeah, in general, that's true. But it's, yeah, I would,

1154
01:35:53,660 --> 01:35:58,780
Scott's going to regret coming to this meeting. But I will invite Scott up to give his perspective.

1155
01:35:58,860 --> 01:36:04,260
I will say anecdotally, because I, there's very, there's no objective evidence anecdotally,

1156
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:10,040
as I reached out to other cities in our county who have joined CSEDA or have implemented

1157
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:16,960
Belarus. This is quickly becoming one of the tools in the toolbox, a recent tool in the

1158
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:22,880
toolbox in order to make projects even financially viable even at market rate. So shopoff is

1159
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,980
the one that brought this forward for our consideration and I have one other developer that has

1160
01:36:27,980 --> 01:36:34,000
reached out asking what our status is because they were also difficult to make a project financially

1161
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,300
viable and this is a tool that they are now looking to potentially leverage if we were to

1162
01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:44,280
join. So I think that's an anecdotal answer is that the benefit is that some projects are

1163
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,040
just no longer penciling for residential development and this is a tool that could help bring

1164
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:54,920
some of those projects forward. Fair comment from Councilmember On that there are other projects

1165
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,360
that are under construction that didn't need it. So trying to draw those comparisons and why did

1166
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:05,620
That one work and this one doesn't is a difficult question to answer, but maybe Scott has some thoughts.

1167
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:15,400
I'll let go of quite a bit of what Matt was saying with obviously each project is quite a bit different.

1168
01:37:15,940 --> 01:37:26,140
From our experience, this is a vehicle that we've used on a number of different projects and for us it's something that is really needed to bring homes to market.

1169
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,980
That's really our big issue and our big goal.

1170
01:37:30,140 --> 01:37:38,880
And by having some fees that can be extended over a long period of time, allows the projects to become market and viable.

1171
01:37:40,220 --> 01:37:50,140
Frankly, if this is something we don't get, I don't know if the homes are going to be as market as they potentially could be.

1172
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:56,340
And so, that's kind of issues we're running into, you know, the goal is really with the

1173
01:37:56,340 --> 01:38:01,480
by spreading out these fees, that initial fee doesn't get to the initial home price.

1174
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:07,980
And the initial home price typically will be lower because you haven't spent that much in either

1175
01:38:07,980 --> 01:38:16,520
developer or construction fees. So, that cost savings per door does go on to the home buyer

1176
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:24,540
on the initial home price and then that does, you know, obviously extend throughout. So that's the goal of what we're trying to do.

1177
01:38:24,620 --> 01:38:29,960
We're trying to get to a point where we can get our home building partner.

1178
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:36,600
A project that can can pencil for them so that we can deliver homes to one of our.

1179
01:38:45,460 --> 01:38:46,500
Thank you.

1180
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:51,320
So it was formed in 1988 and then the skip program,

1181
01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:53,420
which is the Infrastructure Payment component,

1182
01:38:54,020 --> 01:38:56,780
was founded by CSEDA in 2002.

1183
01:38:57,420 --> 01:39:02,520
So 24 years for skip and 40, something years,

1184
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,560
38 years for CSEDA.

1185
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,420
Has anyone ever requested the city of Buenos Part

1186
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:16,000
to join this program before now?

1187
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,820
Okay, so it's never even been considered.

1188
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:22,000
We should talk to the longest standing member.

1189
01:39:23,780 --> 01:39:24,020
Erin.

1190
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:30,440
Council member Sonny, I'm not aware of any developer asking us to participate in this program.

1191
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:32,960
Since I've been here for 21 years.

1192
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:43,380
Okay, the reports says that they decide whether or not the developer gets to have their development as a part of this program.

1193
01:39:44,740 --> 01:39:47,080
How do they make that decision?

1194
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:50,500
What are the qualifying factors?

1195
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:52,540
Does something like that?

1196
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:52,800
Sure.

1197
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,640
So the CSEDA takes a look at a number of factors.

1198
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:59,380
So how much are you attempting to

1199
01:40:00,260 --> 01:40:04,160
the ratio of the project cost versus what you're attempting to finance?

1200
01:40:04,860 --> 01:40:07,320
So they look for that value ratio.

1201
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:09,120
I don't have the exact number in front of me,

1202
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,200
but that's one thing they look at.

1203
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:20,060
The market, the likelihood that there will be buyers for these homes on the back end because that's how these bonds are ultimately repaid.

1204
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:31,080
There's a number of those are two of their big ones, but there's a number of factors that they look at when they decide which projects they're going to accept into to create the assessment or facilities districts.

1205
01:40:31,380 --> 01:40:34,160
Do we know what their percentage of acceptances?

1206
01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:36,800
I do not.

1207
01:40:36,800 --> 01:41:02,920
I have to assume an agent, a JPA that's been in existence for this long, has quite a bit of information reports and things like that available to understand more deeply the how it all works, why it's an advantage, why cities become a part of it, all of that kind of thing.

1208
01:41:04,260 --> 01:41:22,980
I feel like we're missing a lot of information, the fact that so many cities and counties in other jurisdictions participate in it leads me to think that there are probably some very good reasons to join.

1209
01:41:24,020 --> 01:41:37,440
But it also seems like a very big step for this city to decide to do that and I, I would feel much better if I, if I had more and better information to make this decision on it.

1210
01:41:42,140 --> 01:41:52,000
No dispersions on this particular project are you in particular being here because we're talking about doing this for any potential development that asks for it in the future.

1211
01:41:52,300 --> 01:41:54,660
So this shouldn't be on just your shoulders.

1212
01:41:56,380 --> 01:41:59,720
But I want us to make the right decision here.

1213
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:11,920
And I, is there any way for us to table this for a short time until we can gather and

1214
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:21,980
see if a CSEDA has more complete information, perhaps a representative in the area that

1215
01:42:21,980 --> 01:42:24,520
could come and talk to us about it.

1216
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:48,120
Just to give us a greater sense, it's just a totally brand new concept here, I'd never heard of it before tonight or before my gender review and I don't feel comfortable making a choice to do this without a deeper dive into the JPA and what it all means.

1217
01:42:51,250 --> 01:42:55,550
Vice Mayor Hoke followed by Councilmember Franco, or did you still have anything?

1218
01:42:56,230 --> 01:42:58,370
Okay, Councilmember Franco. Thank you, Mayor.

1219
01:42:59,210 --> 01:43:07,330
So, I don't know anything about the CSTA, but I have heard about the mellow

1220
01:43:07,330 --> 01:43:12,550
Rouge project and if please correct me if I'm wrong because this is before my time,

1221
01:43:13,070 --> 01:43:15,990
but isn't that a tax for public infrastructure?

1222
01:43:17,530 --> 01:43:21,230
One of the things you can finance through a community facilities district is

1223
01:43:21,230 --> 01:43:27,570
infrastructure, other things you can finance through an assessment district is fees.

1224
01:43:28,710 --> 01:43:36,790
This feels like a public subsidy on a housing project which ties the topic to maybe something

1225
01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:43,510
like the projects in Los Angeles and I don't feel like a project in district one goes well.

1226
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:51,350
in any way, nor have I heard any clear evidence of actual savings to the homeowner of the unit.

1227
01:43:51,690 --> 01:43:57,250
That hasn't been articulated here and I don't know given that 500 cities in California have

1228
01:43:57,250 --> 01:44:02,630
participated that we're unable to produce any percentage even with different markets in place.

1229
01:44:05,570 --> 01:44:11,570
Lastly, I feel like this opens up the floodgates for any developer to essentially take a loan on

1230
01:44:11,570 --> 01:44:17,330
state and save some money while they increase their profits, yet they don't care about the

1231
01:44:17,330 --> 01:44:21,730
resident that's going to be there in the future. So at this point, I've made up my mind and I

1232
01:44:21,730 --> 01:44:27,410
will be declining further maneuver on this project. Thank you.

1233
01:44:32,930 --> 01:44:36,350
So based on the mix of questions

1234
01:44:36,350 --> 01:44:43,050
and feedback, I've heard, well I guess at first to mat on the specific project, clearly that

1235
01:44:43,050 --> 01:44:50,630
wants to seek this, if we said yes to it, is there any critical concern on saying we wanted

1236
01:44:50,630 --> 01:44:57,190
to lay this up to one month on making a decision that that would kill the project? I guess

1237
01:44:57,190 --> 01:44:59,930
I'm looking to you. Just because there's a lot more information.

1238
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,220
It sounds like we need up here. It would surprise me if it just from what I've heard. If it got three votes tonight, but I haven't heard outright no beyond one, maybe two council members.

1239
01:45:12,260 --> 01:45:17,340
So, I'm on the side of get more information. Can't get out up to a month.

1240
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:18,860
Probably not too weak.

1241
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:29,940
Permit issuance for the project is projected in the first part of 2027. So, we do have a window of time here to now bond issuance and assessment district formation.

1242
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:37,600
takes time but I think we do have probably 30 days reasonably to come back with some more information

1243
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,680
and still not dramatically changed the timeline for this specific project.

1244
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:48,200
And would that be reasonable saying bring it back at the September 8th meeting or more like

1245
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,820
the September 22nd meeting? September 22nd meeting would be my preference.

1246
01:45:52,300 --> 01:45:55,500
Because that would be my, I guess we would just do that as a motion.

1247
01:45:56,100 --> 01:46:00,960
That would be my motion on this would to be bringing this item back with more information and

1248
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:01,260
counsel.

1249
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:06,760
Of course, continue sending any questions directly to staff between now and that item, because

1250
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,420
it sounds like what I'm hearing, including myself leaving this way would need more information

1251
01:46:10,420 --> 01:46:10,840
on it.

1252
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:12,560
I'm not totally opposed to it.

1253
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:18,900
By any means, I just, and I don't want to see a kill this project, too, or substantially

1254
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:22,880
negatively impacted stability to deliver the amount of units that have been improved.

1255
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:28,340
Um, but yeah, I'd be supportive of bringing the item back, um, at or before this December

1256
01:46:28,340 --> 01:46:29,240
22nd meeting.

1257
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:30,260
That'd be my motion.

1258
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,500
I'll ask if there's a second on it and then see if there's other comments, but would

1259
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:34,820
there be a second on that motion.

1260
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:35,960
I'm happy to second.

1261
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,660
I'm sorry, Vice Mayor, she can second, but I'd like to add a question to that.

1262
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:40,460
Of course.

1263
01:46:41,480 --> 01:46:46,920
I understand that the housing development on that site will not count towards the

1264
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,280
renaunbers that the state is asking for.

1265
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:54,400
So I feel like if something like this were to pass and other developers were to take advantage of it,

1266
01:46:54,560 --> 01:47:01,240
would it this again open the floodgates for more housing to be built yet we the city are still held accountable by the state

1267
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,580
to account for arena numbers.

1268
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:11,380
Councilmember Franco this will this project because it was not included in our housing element does not change its still counts toward our arena allocation.

1269
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:17,420
So it's not a site that we identified but all of the units and the affordable units count towards our arena allocation.

1270
01:47:17,420 --> 01:47:19,540
Thank you, Director Fox.

1271
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,960
It is motion in a second.

1272
01:47:23,380 --> 01:47:24,000
Councilmember Sonny.

1273
01:47:24,700 --> 01:47:27,540
I would just like to ask staff.

1274
01:47:28,980 --> 01:47:32,900
If you find out that any cities, especially local,

1275
01:47:33,620 --> 01:47:40,460
joined this JPA in recent years, like in the last four or five years,

1276
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:43,220
if you could identify that for us,

1277
01:47:43,220 --> 01:47:47,660
because they may have some research and discussion

1278
01:47:47,660 --> 01:47:51,540
in their meetings that might help bring some light

1279
01:47:51,540 --> 01:47:54,420
to some of the questions we're asking as well.

1280
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:57,180
Thank you.

1281
01:47:57,300 --> 01:48:00,040
Mayor, I missed the second on that motion.

1282
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:01,280
That was nice.

1283
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,500
They did it at the same time, and then

1284
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:04,020
I'm sorry.

1285
01:48:04,140 --> 01:48:04,900
I'm sorry.

1286
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:06,300
Frank, I'll decline.

1287
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,340
And then, Mayor, if I could recommend you

1288
01:48:08,340 --> 01:48:11,020
add to the motion to continue the public hearing,

1289
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,300
so we don't have to re-advertise.

1290
01:48:12,300 --> 01:48:19,240
All right. Add it to the motion is worded by our city clerk and this is a second. Continue. All right.

1291
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:20,420
All right. Please like to vote.

1292
01:48:30,900 --> 01:48:33,800
Well, the title still says adopting a resolution off.

1293
01:48:33,980 --> 01:48:37,660
It does the amend. So a man is as the recommendation.

1294
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:39,940
No, I see.

1295
01:48:42,740 --> 01:48:43,780
I see.

1296
01:48:44,220 --> 01:48:45,940
To amend motion.

1297
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:50,480
To bring it in the in the in late September.

1298
01:48:51,520 --> 01:49:02,440
September 22nd, return. With more information. Right, bring the item back and then with additional information based on questions stated today and then any other questions Council has between now and then.

1299
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:09,240
Yeah, then can I add one more. Yeah, any questions even after the meeting as part of the item.

1300
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:14,340
And additional things to bring back.

1301
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:28,800
If we can see if there's any consideration of putting that in writing for being more competitively priced house if Meloruz was implemented.

1302
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,480
not sure if I understand.

1303
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:36,760
You want, you want Lenard to guarantee a lower price?

1304
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:39,680
Yeah, like a competitiveness,

1305
01:49:40,420 --> 01:49:42,680
in other words, can you spell it out in terms of like dollars

1306
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:43,800
in sense, you know?

1307
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,320
How much would it be saving the based on current market price and so on?

1308
01:49:48,380 --> 01:49:51,220
Because it seems like there is a belief

1309
01:49:51,220 --> 01:49:55,100
that Meloruz will drop the sale price, right?

1310
01:49:55,820 --> 01:49:57,160
That's what I thought I heard.

1311
01:49:57,420 --> 01:50:00,700
That's part of the idea that information we were bringing back.

1312
01:50:00,700 --> 01:50:22,660
Yeah, okay, just but I don't think we can ask a builder to commit to a specific number right as part of this market is full yeah fluctuating and whatnot and it's all based on the location location location so I get that but I just need something to change my mind about this. Thank you.

1313
01:50:22,660 --> 01:50:26,560
Okay. Great. Thank you.

1314
01:50:26,900 --> 01:50:28,680
Councilmember Andagee, select your vote.

1315
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,280
You did. Thank you. Motion pass four to one to amend.

1316
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,840
And usually this is when we take a break, we only have one item left and

1317
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:38,900
study session that would should last a couple minutes.

1318
01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:41,860
Um, so I'm going to, unless anyone wants to say a break, I'm just going to

1319
01:50:41,860 --> 01:50:43,420
recommend we'd go through it, right?

1320
01:50:44,740 --> 01:50:46,240
Um, actually don't know.

1321
01:50:46,540 --> 01:50:47,120
Uh, Adrian.

1322
01:50:47,740 --> 01:50:48,020
Uh, Adrian.

1323
01:50:48,020 --> 01:50:50,120
of government, community relations city clerk.

1324
01:50:50,420 --> 01:50:54,920
This is item 9A discussing provide direction regarding the CalCity's annual conference voting

1325
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:56,320
delegates and alternate delegates.

1326
01:50:56,700 --> 01:50:57,380
Thank you, Mayor.

1327
01:50:57,620 --> 01:51:02,920
The CalCity's conference is in Anaheim this year, September 23rd through the 25th at the

1328
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:03,960
Convention Center.

1329
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,740
I'm tonight am asking Council to make two discussions.

1330
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:09,660
Our two decisions.

1331
01:51:10,020 --> 01:51:16,060
The first is to select a voting delegate in an alternate and the second is to provide

1332
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:23,100
direction on how to vote on the one resolution for consideration, titled resolution of the

1333
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:27,320
General Assembly of the League of California Cities, calling for a working group to consider

1334
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:33,480
a state constitutional amendment or other form of initiative to ensure final local authority

1335
01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:41,300
over housing and land use decisions. So first, if Council would like to select a voting delegate

1336
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:42,020
and an alternate?

1337
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,440
And no public comments?

1338
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:47,740
No public comments.

1339
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,260
And then, all right, well, who's going to be around

1340
01:51:50,260 --> 01:51:51,280
then and wants to do it?

1341
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:52,900
It's just down, I mean, it's on it.

1342
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:54,220
And it's usually on a Friday.

1343
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,740
Yeah, it's on a Friday, usually at like,

1344
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:57,820
I've done it a couple times.

1345
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,300
It's pretty early in the morning.

1346
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:02,460
I'm fine being the alternate.

1347
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:04,760
I mean, I'm getting my kids preschool

1348
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,220
an hour earlier than I typically would,

1349
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:07,520
because I'd have to get them there,

1350
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:08,660
much earlier than that.

1351
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:10,420
So I prefer not to be the rep,

1352
01:52:10,740 --> 01:52:12,240
but it's as anyone else want to be the rep.

1353
01:52:13,550 --> 01:52:23,550
I didn't want to. I'm looking at some of your friends that help if it serves the council to represent and cast the vote if necessary. Thank you.

1354
01:52:24,370 --> 01:52:28,570
All right, so call for thumbs. Frank O'Dell get trout alternate. All right.

1355
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:35,140
And then how to vote. And that is the only one is the deadline already passed.

1356
01:52:35,140 --> 01:52:42,260
That is the only one, correct. There could be resolutions or bylaw amendments from the floor, but this is what we've received today.

1357
01:52:43,020 --> 01:52:53,540
And just confirmed, because in the packet, it didn't really have any groups that have been opposing it. Not a ton supporting it yet, but is there any, was there any opposition that was filed? I didn't see any.

1358
01:52:53,540 --> 01:53:00,040
I didn't see any either, just letters of support from a few cities mostly in the inland empire.

1359
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:05,240
Cal cities saying we're about local control. I think that's all they repeat 100 times a day.

1360
01:53:06,540 --> 01:53:13,720
And don't want to say no to that. So anyone have a strong opinion on the item one way or the other

1361
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:18,980
how we want to direct councilmember Frank out about local control.

1362
01:53:23,540 --> 01:53:25,580
All right. So I'll call for them

1363
01:53:25,580 --> 01:53:27,000
to support the item.

1364
01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:29,180
All right.

1365
01:53:29,180 --> 01:53:29,420
Okay.

1366
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:30,480
Thank you.

1367
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,640
And obviously, the direction, just so it's clear, because it was a question, I think,

1368
01:53:35,740 --> 01:53:37,980
my first or second year on council, it came up.

1369
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,840
If it materially changes between now and then, like, there's amendments that can kind of

1370
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:46,760
happen on the floor and stuff, obviously, you have freedom of the vote, however, you would

1371
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,260
like, kind of thing as the best interest to the city.

1372
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,080
So, I just want to make that clear in case you vote, the other direction, because it changes.

1373
01:53:52,860 --> 01:53:55,520
So, there have been changes before and on the floor.

1374
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,800
member with art I think was art and he should go to the other way and it's a good thing he did.

1375
01:54:01,340 --> 01:54:07,130
All right city managers for it. Thank you Mr. Mayor, just one update. The finance department is

1376
01:54:07,130 --> 01:54:12,010
having a barbecue next week and I think a lot of you have been invited to that. If you're able to

1377
01:54:12,010 --> 01:54:16,770
attend thank you very much, that concludes my report, Mr. Mayor. Commissioner and committee update.

1378
01:54:17,230 --> 01:54:22,450
Yes, there's going to be an upcoming vacancy and district one for the cultural engagement effective

1379
01:54:22,450 --> 01:54:28,270
August 19th. The Council member has been advised and that posting will go up on August

1380
01:54:28,270 --> 01:54:34,550
19th. Oh, and a city clerk, I think there's also going to be a vacancy for the climate

1381
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:40,810
action district too, so I have a recommendation to amend to that. Okay. We haven't received

1382
01:54:40,810 --> 01:54:45,450
a resignation letter as of yet. Okay. So we will post the vacancy once we receive the

1383
01:54:45,450 --> 01:54:50,090
resignation letter. Sounds good. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Seeing nothing further,

1384
01:54:50,090 --> 01:54:50,910
Meetings adjourned.