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Normally, the two five, you might be just standing off the side so you can, I have a break at the top.

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I know I feel like you can.

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I'm super hard. You're just like, I'm like, I'm still hiding.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, there's some brief souls that came out.

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So how's the draft coming up?

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It keeps turning full off.

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I'll keep turning it back on.

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No.

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All right.

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We were recording on this to go.

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And for that glance of.

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Awesome.

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All right.

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Welcome, everybody.

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Thanks for being here today.

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Let's start the meeting and you'll join me in the political lesions.

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Before the regents.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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talk about some water related stuff later on in the media and it's heading on what comes the next

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couple months will really make a big determination I think for the county and our economy and

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which is everything we do around here. So keep this hair is crossed and great for snow, great for rain,

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any type of moisture. Anyhow, all right, with that we have our agenda.

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I have a question about numbers.

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Question asked at me if I have a number two on the agenda.

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So we move that to what?

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Right.

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Right.

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these things else.

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Any other thoughts?

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Dangerous.

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That's okay.

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That's okay.

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I can motion to move the amended agenda.

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Second.

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It is worth the second.

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All in favor.

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All right.

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All right.

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Review of public meeting list.

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Well, you go first to you and you've got the most detailed list here.

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There's a lot going on here for sure, so let's see tomorrow Senator Bennett was going to be here, but it got cancelled because of the weather, so he will rest at you and be back in the near future looking forward to that session.

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Um, let's see, the, uh, of the Arkansas, uh, Council of Governments has their meeting tomorrow

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at the new triple aid building in Salida, getting a chance to be excited about that. It will

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make, uh, with new meals for, uh, um, our older residents a lot better and all the services that

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the trip to the Arkansas area on agent's aging.

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A much better situation.

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So I will come forward to that.

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So C4CA has a legislative meeting in the afternoon.

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CKAT and CCI stuff on Thursday.

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CC4CA, CCI and the community works on Friday.

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we won't be in, I don't have a meeting next week, so we can go in and guess.

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The longing, co-leadership strategy meeting, great group of local leaders, kind of doing some planning there on Monday.

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Airport board on Wednesday.

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Give the library construction appreciation.

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Thanks.

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Let's get it right.

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I did go see what that library is looking like.

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Uh, worse.

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We're seek out stuff on Thursday.

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The legislature is full blast right now.

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Just sees the eye meeting on Friday.

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find yourself and slide on the 28th, I will be hosting Jennifer Griswald at the

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distillery, great opportunity to come and ask her questions,

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bringing General's Office for this running for it.

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This is the first week of March, it's full on PC4CA, but do we have a meeting on that, that's

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March?

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So we'll go along again.

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Copy your law,

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Mass.

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Okay.олод

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to ordinances.

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later that afternoon early evening.

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Let's see, I mentioned the CC4 C.A. Meining, another community member meeting Friday morning and I'm getting a physical Friday afternoon. So we'll see from the re back next week or not.

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And then Jacob County Community Awards are Friday evening on the 20th.

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So we're going to take it and go into those.

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Let's see what else we've got happening here.

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On Monday the 23rd, we've got a Zoom call with my friends at Excel about decommissioning Hydro Plan.

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And there's a slide of city meeting on 6 p.m. on Monday, the 23rd, around the South Arkansas development.

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There's needless to say some costing increases and that's some potential changes.

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And since that's my neighbor, I'm prepared there.

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Tuesday to 17th. There's a Medicaid coverage eligibility implementation webinar. There might be interesting driven off of a favorite bill each are one.

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And let's see.

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We'll do it for me.

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All right.

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That's great.

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Thank you guys.

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Obviously, we've tackled the line share.

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The only additional few things that can add that aren't also my list.

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So we just had this morning at the BFMP,

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so the voluntary flow management program, meeting,

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it's a half an hour, at least falls on before this meeting.

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It sounds like the five groups, which includes us already

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to sign the document, so they'll be great.

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We'll be there for later on tonight.

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It's seven o'clock is the Chief County

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search for a ski north director's meeting.

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Let's see, you guys, I think the C-Cat, C-C-I, I've been staff meeting tomorrow at one.

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I've been working specifically on, I'll still 1-0-0-8, the Alter Opportunities Acts here for the state.

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And we have our last work group meeting at 11 a.m. on this coming Thursday.

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One of the big focuses of, I'd say, well, everybody in the work group, which is comprised of

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telling throughout the state, is ensuring that whatever comes through CPW in terms of outdoor recreation

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includes the trigger and authority of local government having to say in what happens here with local

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work recreation needs. Right now, CPW has it, I think,

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doctored into the bill, that things kind of stay on a higher state level,

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but we want to ensure that local authority is included at that table.

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That's where the main stakeholder and I think we know better what's going on here than anybody else.

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So, working with them and essentially fixing the bill, if you will,

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and then it will go to the floor on the 23rd and so I'll be testifying that.

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So that's two big ease for me, and then on the 24th and next Tuesday, we have our

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T.V. Red Council meeting 11, and then one P.M. We have our common grounds committee meeting

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we have T.V. Treats on Wednesday, the 25th at 2.

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All right, my standing meeting and that brings us essentially tomorrow,

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but you guess what they're the best, so there's nothing going on.

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Nothing going on.

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All right.

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Up next, we have a public comment.

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And so, grab that.

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Okay, Jim.

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I can write.

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I would just like to say even address to the James Thompson

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or Jim Thompson, 17065, kind of road 338.

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As my education's in forestry,

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I had been watching the forest all winter long,

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and the problem we're dealing with,

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and is that the firteries with spruce trees,

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they will still function and wear it,

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when they do not have ground cover,

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snow are sufficiently low temperatures.

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They're circular systems to grow.

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So all winter long, for forest,

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I've been using up water on the ground, which snow is to replenish, so I think on behalf of a lot of people, I think we ought to notify our citizens to be very careful because we're going to go into maybe one of the worst fire seasons we've ever seen.

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So everybody needs to be careful and keep that in consideration. Thank you.

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Thank you. Anybody else in the room have public comment. The only other time we'll be setting

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comment is at the actual public hearing today for the Meadows. So if there's anything else that you have

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comment on, winner agenda, or...

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On anything else, now is the time.

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That's why I got Jeff.

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Okay.

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No, that's why I moved that piece out of a consent agenda, so I can ask.

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Okay, cool. All right, so then we will shift to public comment for folks online.

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So if, um, raise your hand, if you have a public comment you like to share.

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All right, all right, Susie Kelly, just a, you could share your name and then you're addressed and and you're off to the reasons for your comment.

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Susie Kelly, 25887, County Rose 319, and Buna Vista.

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I am just trying to find out about the common ground, funds, and I understand that's

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going to be on the agenda, so it'll be interesting to see how you're working that out,

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because it was sales tax and so forth that voted by the community, so I want to be sure

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still in the mix. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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All right. Anybody else in one? Let's go.

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All right. Seeing none, we will move along from public comments. We will happen to the minutes.

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I will approve the minutes from February 3rd, 2026 meeting.

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Okay, I have a person second all in favour.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Now we roll down to the consent agenda.

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Fairly enough, Dean.

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I'll read through each one here.

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And just note we did cool number two out to be here.

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First business item, but first thing we got, obviously pay the bills.

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I think knowledge to share this office,

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monthly report for January 2026, ratify the Veteran Service officers and monthly report for January

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2026.

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And just a quick call out to you, Ashley Ottener, she did an excellent presentation on mental

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health and fees question it, yeah, she's been, she's been, she's been, she's been

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question it was really so, so her presentation was outstanding, so I just wanted to quickly

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recognize her.

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That was for continuing

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ad program that they run for all the

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VSOs in the state.

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It was really, really good

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thoughtful presentation.

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We're lucky to have that

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small.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Consider release of

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lotsales restriction for lots

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once through 18 of

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Cal pre branch major subdivision.

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Approve resolution

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2026-0.

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Authorizing

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to deposit and invest a couple of funds, acknowledge the Treasurer's monthly report for January

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2026, ratify contract with Quay, Ding-Boom Oates LLC for provision of special council

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services for the Chafee County Department of Human Services,

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approved by an all-of-2026

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budgets for a record-rangers, record doctors, and the Port of Credit Programs will be

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from the Lobbing Tax Area Allocation Fund of Balance, and then approval of the Red Ranger

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vehicle use agreement for 2026, and then consider amended commissioner letter regarding unfunded

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mandates to the state of Colorado and legislators as discussed at February 3rd, the OCC,

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And I think it's, well, that's an important letter, I think.

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The commissioner Marlin from the Crete County made a really good point.

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Or maybe it was math from that year.

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I'm going to give that about why they weren't sending one of those in.

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And it was,

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it's not necessarily the, you know, the unfunded mandates that are the biggest issue.

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They're big issue.

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But the fact that the state will not allow counties to go out and raise raise funds in any way other than property taxes,

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which if you're not de-brused, which if you're not de-brused, we don't have any room there to really do anything.

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So we're really handcuffed and our population continues to grow, our demands for services continue to grow

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and the state continues to restrict our abilities to increase revenues while they demand more from us.

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So anyways, I think that's, I think it's good we're sending that letter, but I think maybe there

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needs to be a follow up talking more about the revenue side of the equation, that's my

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rad.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I guess the quick little call that I wanted to make was just for number nine, just so for the

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and BLM that really helps us with the own background folks for seasonals and to take care of

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our public lands.

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Record doctors, obviously, Garnas are supported for that, so they'll be helping them get

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a project management, additional support, contract with heavy equipment, contractors, covers

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for dumb fees, the Porter Party program I believe is about 35 units across the valley, and

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one's also covered there. So the units and the cleaning, it's constantly, we get a lot of

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folks using them, which is a good thing. One thing we use those versus health appliance. So

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anyhow, and then the wreck ranger vehicle use will be letting three vehicles, CPW, so they

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can have these folks drive around and access these areas to take care of this for a little bit more

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transparency and clarification on those. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Well, with the modification noted earlier to the consent agenda, I'm going to look for

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people.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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First and second.

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All in favor.

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All right.

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Okay.

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So now we will convene a sushi fee County Board of Adjustment.

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We have one item on the consent agenda to approve Board of Adjustment Resolution

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in 2022, six dashes very quickly regarding the bone gardener appeal of administrative decision.

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I'll pay a promotion to approve the consent agenda. That's a little bit of a heated battle on

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that one, but a good, but a good discussion. And I think we will have some opportunities to talk

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about the reasons for that. What we can do within the land is going to make it work up with

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That would agree it was an important discussion and then it upward ended up

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which is fine, but it's just a start of continuing to adopt adapt and improve our land

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use code.

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I do hope that we hear from a handful of folks regularly that are worried about how the land

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And so I hope that this is our hearing, that we are hearing that,

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taking on going people up at the land use of callisax,

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allowing making sure that it is the best document that it can possibly be.

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And all that to say there with the, I think this last conversation,

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and we did have one earlier near two but speaking of chance to look at that.

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and refine it, we grow what works best is really important.

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So we can hopefully avoid more situations like this

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and just make it easy for everybody.

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I've worked on that for that at the very end

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and we have our Commissioner comments, but I do think

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it's a important call out and it's a good driver for adjustments.

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What did you do?

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I don't think so.

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Did you make motion?

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And I'll second it.

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OK, well, motion is second.

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All in favor.

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Okay. Now we will reconvene as the JP County Board of County Commissioners. There's no contracts or grant consideration. So then we will roll that because we may be adjustment.

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through item two, which was originally on the consent agenda, but is now our first item in the

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general business, which is the ratification of the second reading to adopt the county ordinance

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2025-03 restricting open fires and open burning in unincorporated areas of Shafi County providing

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penalties for violation of such ordinance.

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And I had a question asked about how does this affect burn barrels and I did not know

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to answer that.

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I don't know if there's anybody available to answer that question.

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All right.

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Andy.

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Sorry.

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No, no, no, no.

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Have it.

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It's good.

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Good.

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commissioners, burn barrels, you know, originally we had had that as part of the fire restrictions,

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that they were not allowed. However, it is used quite often here in the county with agriculture.

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So that was part of an agreement with the fire districts that we did remove that. It wasn't in the

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original restrictions. But we did remove it out of this one after consideration. So right now it's not on there. It's not a fact that it's just just like any other burning is where it would be held.

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I think that answer was that.

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So I would answer I'd make the motion to rat slide on second to be a adoption

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in a calendar or a next.

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One, two, three.

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Person a second, all in favor.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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I'll catch up with you.

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after all right, or give me a call later if you want.

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Yeah, it's so you can do it. You're okay.

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All right, up next presentation from fair and peers on the chief of county see for

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degrees for all safety and project.

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Nice.

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To quote 16-time granular work winner, it bill.

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Hello.

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I am here this morning to introduce Patrick Picard.

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Patrick is here from Fair and Pears.

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The lead project manager for our safety action plan.

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Our safety for roadways for all safety action plan projects.

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Patrick Scott, a presentation this morning.

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And I think we've finally kicked this thing off in our wrist and wanted to bring the folks

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and fair and peers up to let you guys know a little bit about what's going on.

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This is a project led by the Planning and Natural Resources Department Gary Baker is our

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principal on this one.

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Nick Gilbert's been helping him out a bit, but Patrick and his team from fair here is doing

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a lot of the heavy lifting.

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The other side of that project, as you guys, like we remember, deals with mitigating

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wildlife vehicle collisions in the county, you'll have a presentation from Julia Kench, the

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principle of eco-resolution search for next meeting on that side of things. But I think we can bring

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Patrick up and take it away. I'm going to go ahead and share. Here's everyone going to see

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this works.

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Thanks for being here with us. Yeah, thanks for having me

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here. My name is Patrick

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card and the fair and peers as Miles mentioned, we are, where the consultant that was selected

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for, um, to lead this, uh, planning process. So, uh, fair and peers, uh, are office, uh,

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that working on this, uh, action plan, where they start a Denver, um, and we've worked on a number

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of these, and different communities around the state. So, really excited to be helping

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Chibi County help with this one. Um, as Miles mentioned, the, uh, official name of this, uh, plan,

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and it will be the shaky county safer roadways

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for all action-play.

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So I have about 15 minute or so presentation.

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We've just gotten started with this project

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just in the last couple of months.

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So not a lot of like outcomes yet,

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but just want to give you a sense for what

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the process is going to look like what we're anticipating

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and have a quick, a fairly simple question

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for you all at the end.

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So I'm going to go over the project time

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line, a little bit details about some of the outreach that we're doing to get community input,

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want to cover the expected outcomes, and then, as I mentioned, just have a, for a question,

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and provide an opportunity for you all as to be questions.

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So, the main goals of the project are to conduct a comprehensive traffic safety analysis.

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Also, getting community input on their top traffic safety concerns going to be hugely important.

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And ultimately, we want to develop an implementation plan that you all can use to work towards

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improving safety on the roads and shape accounting and go after leverage this to go after

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there's a lot of other grant funding and external sources to help implement some of those projects.

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And just to make

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Make sure that we're on the same page. This specific plan is focusing on county roads and state highways and

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chiefs, so we're not including the town and city streets.

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Just a little background on the safe streets for all grant programs. So this was established.

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During the Biden administration, it's a $5 billion FHWA program that competitive grants and they've been awarding them every year.

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This is actually the last year, 2026, that they'll be a grant cycle, at least for now, unless Congress moves.

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That's what I don't know what they're going to do next year, but that's where we are now.

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And Shafi County was awarded a grant to conduct this development plan.

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And the focus of the real focus of the projects are to reduce or eliminate fatal and serious injury crashes.

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So we're not necessarily looking to eliminate all crashes,

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but it's the serious ones we don't want.

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The goal is to not have people getting killed

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and seriously injured traveling around the county.

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But developing a plan, you'll set yourself up

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as I mentioned for grants.

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It's one of the key things for actually

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the implementation grant funding through SS4A,

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but because of the delays that getting this project started,

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I'm not sure it will be able to hit that last grant.

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cycle, but there are other opportunities that out there, and I'm sure we'll come in the future

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and say if you can, it will be well set up to take advantage of those.

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And then one of the other core principles of the Safe Systems approach, which is kind of foundational

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pillar of the Safe Streets Brawl, is redundant system.

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So, you know, focusing on not just one aspect of the safety for roadways, but looking at all aspects.

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So, looking at speeds, looking at multiple modes, looking at vehicle safety, looking at, you know, human actions, all of those things and kind of putting them all together and making them redundant.

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And if we implement all of those, then it would be more likely to

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event to feed on severe injury crushes.

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And there's that's kind of like the SS4A diagram that FHWA uses,

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which is on the screen.

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Okay, so the timeline we started this project, just as I mentioned,

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just in the last couple of months.

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And anticipating it will be about a 10 month or so process.

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And we've broken this up into just really three major phases of the project, so the first that we're in right now is doing our kind of analysis gathering all our data gathering input from the community on what their concerns are putting that all together and that will kind of picture for what the issues are that we need to address so that we get into April.

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We'll start looking at developing solutions and draft recommendations, bring that back to the community in the summer, and that's that, and then jump into final plan and the hotline dashboard in the late summer fall.

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And as you can see, there's two kind of major rounds of community input, so we're doing one right now and actually just in the process of gearing up, there's an online survey right now that we've already gotten feedback on.

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And we're going to be doing some heavy promotion for that over the next month or so

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to try and get as many survey responses as we can, because it's really valuable and

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important.

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But recommendations and outcomes of the plan will be aiming to wrap that up by early April.

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And then once we'll have another round of community input, as I mentioned, once we have

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some draft recommendations and outcomes that they can see all the feedback and present all

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data houses and what that's showing to the community and make sure we understand any other

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concerns or desires they have on the job for generations.

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Just go through each of the major phases, just some highlights here.

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So, in this first phase, as I mentioned, we're analyzing a lot of the crash data and other

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contextual factors and painting a picture for what the issues are, we're also a couple of key

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comes from this first days or developing a high injury network and high risk network,

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so I don't know, some of you may or may not be familiar with those terms, but just to clarify

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a high injury network is basically what are the roadways within the county where you have

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a disproportionate of the crash data, it shows a disproportionally high number of fatal and severe

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injury crashes, and often you'll get, you know, get something like 10% of your rows account

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for 70 or 80 percent of your fatal and severe injury crashes.

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So it's really to focus if we focus our attention on those areas that we'll have to

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get kind of the most being for our bucking.

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The high risk network is equally as important because the crash data can be somewhat random,

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but over if you get a large enough sample size, then you start to see trends.

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So the risk network will be based on risk factors that are commonly associated with crashes

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And we're going to do a whole analysis to figure out what those are, and then map those out in the county, and then we'll see all of the roadways where that disproportionately high chance of high risk for crashes in the future.

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And then one of the other key outcomes of this first phase is developing crash profiles.

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And these are, to know, what are the most common kind of trash types that we should be working on mitigating about data fatal severe injury crashes.

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I've listed three below.

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Those are, this is just a teaser.

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We haven't started, but these are the, these are some of the likely ones that are, to emerge from just some of the early crash pictures that we're seeing.

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But as I mentioned, it's just a teaser and we'll have more information specifically on what,

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those crash types I want me once we get through their analysis, but I just wanted to show

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an example of what that would look like.

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Phase two, as I mentioned, will be moving into draft project recommendations, so one of the

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excellent key outcomes of these two are developing a countermeasure tool box, so looking at some

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of those common crash profiles, what's the tool box to address those? What can the county do

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to address those? And that way, when we have a specific location, we can look at a tool box

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and figure out which one might apply, whether it be for example run off the road crashes,

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rumbles strips or guard rails or some speed mitigation or signage, or for no left turn crashes

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could be a median or left turn lanes or exclusive phases for left turn to a signal that kind

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of thing.

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And so another key outcome is we're going to be taking a deeper dive in some of the priority

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locations, these are often intersections or corridors, and then identify what the issues are

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at those locations, pair them with countermeasures that are likely to be most appropriate

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and that ultimately result in our project list, and we'll develop a prioritization methodology

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because we know that it's generally not possible to implement all projects simultaneously,

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so we want to give you some tools for which ones should be prioritized.

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And then in the last phase, we will be developing the final plan and online dashboard.

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And then there's one other actually piece that's not mentioned on here.

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But we'll be identifying 10 high priority locations where we'll be doing some concept design,

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to help set the software implementation.

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I just want to cover a little bit more specific on the outreach.

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So in this first round of outreach, really the main goal and one of the most valuable pieces of information

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you can come to the community and through the online survey.

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So online surveys live have a QR code and link to that at the end of the presentation

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and we'll be promoting that through pop-up events, actually through a sub-consultant

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that's helping us out with that and online media and social media and all of those things.

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We also have a forming a steering committee right now that's going to help guide the project

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to meet a program presented to some different agencies that have a big stake and kind of outcomes

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are more connected to other transmissions in this case. And then we have a project website that

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will be updating regularly. There's a link there that project website is live as a last week

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and it has a lot of information about what we're presenting here today and as we get through

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different stages of project will be updating that on time. Phase two of outreach which will

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per over the summer is once we have those draft recommendations

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we'll be going back out to the public.

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And we'll determine whether we do open house meetings

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and other online survey will kind of figure that out

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at the project team or essentially focus groups.

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And just on the right is an example of the dashboard

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that's sorry, not the dashboard.

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The online survey interactive map,

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which is going to be one of the most valuable tools

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that we use that we get community input from.

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So we're going to combine that with a lot of the crash data analysis that we're getting and help that help us identify

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some of the locations that we should be focusing on for this plan. So I encourage all of you to

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spread the word and direct people to that survey. And then lastly, just want to summarize some of the

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expected outcomes. So as part of, and a group these roughly in phases, there's some overlap between

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some of these phases, but out of the nine here,

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so as I mentioned, the conference traffic safety analysis,

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community engagement, which we'll actually do

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in phase one, and phase two,

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a high injury and high risk network map,

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kind of measure toolbox.

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The Equal Wildlife Mitigation is a big part of this,

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and as Miles mentioned, we're working closely

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with eco-resolutions on that part.

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00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:19,660
We're looking at kind of the whole crash profile,

466
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:22,680
Julia is focusing on that vehicle wildlife piece,

467
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,720
and it will be kind of wrapped in together,

468
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:30,460
Coming up with a prioritized project list and then phase three, recommended programs and actions.

469
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:40,320
Here's where I mentioned those concepts, solutions for 10 high priority projects and then online at the dashboard that you can use to kind of track help progress over time in the future.

470
00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:47,850
Okay, before I jump into my question, just want to pause and see if you all have questions for me.

471
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:54,200
No questions, but excited for the research and development

472
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,320
to see what comes out of the so far, especially

473
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,360
with a wildlife question.

474
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,600
Let me go in from great.

475
00:41:01,180 --> 00:41:01,360
Yeah.

476
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Thank you.

477
00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:02,500
Good forward to the return.

478
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:03,880
So.

479
00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:07,280
Tactics and actions we could take.

480
00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:10,240
Great.

481
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,780
Well, this is completely open.

482
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:16,820
Since I'm here, I want to just see if there's anything

483
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:18,860
that you all would want to share on.

484
00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:28,320
And specific concerns that you're aware of, you know, based on kind of your connections to the county that we should make sure that we're paying attention to as we do our process.

485
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:32,580
Yeah.

486
00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:33,060
That too.

487
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,660
Yeah.

488
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:38,340
One is one is the just speaking from our friends and Maysville.

489
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,660
I get lots of funny males from asking about Jake Briggs signs and we're full of that.

490
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:54,940
But on a CDOT road, we have to look with CDOT to get that done, but how high burns are for

491
00:41:54,940 --> 00:42:00,480
left-hand turns, right-hand turns, so people are coming essentially on roads that have a higher

492
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,300
mile per hour limit.

493
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:05,400
Just kind of curious about that.

494
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,760
There's a place along Highway 50 that have been in terms of the past.

495
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,880
So just people's ability to see when they're coming up from the side road on to Highway 50.

496
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:24,720
And then I had mentioned earlier, just the wildlife, you know, living here and BB driving down to the county almost every day, but close to it.

497
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:33,820
The amount of portion of roadkill is wonderful and it's not great to see. It's hard for the person driving the car.

498
00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:39,960
but some in danger and I don't like to see the wildlife being up either. So those are two things

499
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:46,440
off top of my head on the spot that I would call out. I know there's quite a bit more, but

500
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,460
I'll stay the obvious one, I think. Minor, yes. No, there's a well thought out.

501
00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:59,480
You know, mine is pretty simple. When I drive up to BV from Salida, I typically put my speed control

502
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,740
on 64, which isn't everybody in the room will know

503
00:43:02,740 --> 00:43:05,740
is four miles an hour over the post and speed limit.

504
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:07,420
So I'm technically speeding.

505
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,800
Is Andy still on?

506
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,700
Yeah, I'm telling you this.

507
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:12,160
I've told Andy this.

508
00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:16,000
He's welcome to take my license anytime you want.

509
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,480
And he can.

510
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,580
But the point being, how many cars go by me?

511
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,980
Well, I'm already over the top and as many people know,

512
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:33,970
There's a logarithmic relationship between speed and reaction time and ability that respond to

513
00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:39,130
the situations where they're to hands or bicycles or whatever so.

514
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,760
Yeah, that's a great. Oh, I got that's a great point. I can respond to a couple of those two.

515
00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:51,130
Well, and hopefully we'll pay some attention to the

516
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,720
But I

517
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:26,220
don't have much to say.

518
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:28,940
but there's a lot of kind of put a number to it.

519
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,240
So, Tafi County does average at least five fatalities per year

520
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,620
on our roadways.

521
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,900
So, I think that's something that this plan is directly

522
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,980
intended to address and reduce and hopefully eliminate.

523
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:46,760
And then, in addition to that, dozens of severe injuries.

524
00:44:47,540 --> 00:44:50,740
So, these are real things happening out there.

525
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,680
I think this kind of links to how important that's planning.

526
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:57,800
Yeah, look forward to your more input.

527
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,980
Yeah, thanks Gary for bringing that.

528
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,140
Up and we're actually doing like a deeper guy on that crash due to us, I didn't want to put a numbers out right now, so we kind of

529
00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:14,800
kind of go solidify but that's roughly, that's roughly what we're seeing. And then similar with the wildlife

530
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,460
collisions, it's what we've seen is close to 30% of all crashes in the county are a vehicle wildlife

531
00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:49,160
part of the agency. Now they make up not as high proportion of fatal severe injury for people at least, but I actually talking to Julia, she points out that not all while the collisions are recorded in the crash data as wildlife collisions, particularly like somebody were to swore and then run off the road and hit a tree, it would be a run off the road crash, which is one of the most predominant that we see. So there's a lot of relationship there.

532
00:45:50,460 --> 00:46:00,420
And then we will be collecting, we're actually using, um, we get kind of an anonymous data set from in vehicle navigation systems.

533
00:46:00,620 --> 00:46:09,780
You can predict data, uh, to get operating speeds and we're going to map the operating speeds, uh, 50th percentality, 50th percent throughout all the computer roads.

534
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:16,840
And kind of see the correlation to that with some of the crashes. So that's going to be something that we take a look at and you're exactly right.

535
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:23,380
speeding is one of the highest oralary factors to crashes, and it's sometimes it's people going

536
00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:27,340
exceeding the speed limits, sometimes it's roads that are potentially at close to the higher

537
00:46:27,340 --> 00:46:33,600
than they should be to give them a customers. And it could vary you know by whether it's the systems

538
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
the night versus daytime that kind of thing.

539
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:42,600
And yes we'll be looking at the dirt roads too.

540
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:56,440
And I will just leave you with that. So there's the QR code for this online survey that we have right now, as well as the website.

541
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
And we'll be promoting that.

542
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,620
Well,

543
00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:13,170
which I had brought something to have some pliers and I did not pick those up, so apologies, but it's available on like you are being shared.

544
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:22,510
Thank you.

545
00:47:22,510 --> 00:47:22,850
Thank you.

546
00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:30,780
I don't know if there's anything else I'll scare you.

547
00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:31,900
Make you guys want to share a curtain.

548
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Okay.

549
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:44,700
All right. Moving right along. So now we are going to roll into our public hearing to consider multi year special event permit application.

550
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:48,580
The name of the September concert at the meadows.

551
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:49,500
So.

552
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,260
All right.

553
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,180
Good morning.

554
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:53,420
Start with you for that.

555
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Reporting.

556
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,060
Representing the.

557
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:57,860
Finding part of the county. So.

558
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:02,780
Sure. Well, I'm sure you'll have memorized this presentation ready, but I'll give it never the less.

559
00:48:02,780 --> 00:48:15,440
And just a little bit of context here, this forward already approved a multi-year resolution for an August concert at the Meadows, starting this summer, that'll be a three-year permit with a max capacity of 10,000 people.

560
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:23,560
And so this permit application here largely matches the contents about that already approved permit for August.

561
00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:31,260
So, this request is for a concert in mid-September, specifically for 2026 and the September 17th

562
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:38,380
to 21st, that would be a Thursday through Monday with live music, main stage, amplified

563
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:45,080
music from Friday to Sunday, Friday and Saturday the music would go to 11 at night, on Sunday

564
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,920
the music would go to 10 at night, largely the attendance is going to be kept at 11,000

565
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:57,120
people, but on Sunday they'll be offering a local's ticket, 500 local's tickets, so on Sunday

566
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,360
the max capacity would be 11,500.

567
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:06,420
That's going to be the largest sort of difference between this permit application and the

568
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:08,100
one that we'll have already approved.

569
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:14,360
In that the already approved one, CAPS the attendance at 10,000 people, this one would have

570
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:20,560
at 11,500, but again, most of that would be a left-thousand cap that.

571
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:26,020
So this would be a three-year permit, so again, similar to the prior

572
00:49:26,020 --> 00:49:30,800
permit, so three-year multi-year permit each year allowing for a festival

573
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,540
in the middle of September.

574
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:40,080
This also is going to match the sound limits placed on the previous application,

575
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:52,200
So it's going to be 105 DDA, which is consistent across most of the meadows events that have occurred, and then 1117 DBC, which was arrived at last time after quite a bit of deliberation.

576
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,740
So you all have already heard a permit request for mid September.

577
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:07,880
These dates, why not that they are not in direct conflict with other approved events in the county, and then they're not on to be holiday.

578
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,120
weekends with a matter of concern last time around. So we reached out to our referral agencies.

579
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,580
The ones we heard back from largely wasn't an issue, I'll point out that the fire protection

580
00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:25,600
districts said they would be able to work the events, so they were big and saying that they

581
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:32,620
could not work the previous September application due to conflicts with other events and

582
00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:39,360
they weekends and so they said that they would be able to do this. I have not heard back

583
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,580
from the sheriff or EMS but I know at least we have the sheriff online to comment on that

584
00:50:43,580 --> 00:50:49,140
and hopefully we have EMS as well. The town of BV also did reach out expressing their sort of

585
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:54,580
standing concern with traffic issues and they would receive the receiving a traffic plan.

586
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:59,060
If this were approved they'd be receiving the traffic plan about 90 days out so they'd be able to

587
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:03,380
comment on that and be prepared for what it's going to be like.

588
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,180
So that's most of what we have here.

589
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:10,640
Again, it largely matches that prior to permit.

590
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,660
Day for the max attendance.

591
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,600
This one would be a greater max attendance with the Thursday,

592
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,640
ingress, Monday, egress, and main stage music Friday Saturday and Sunday.

593
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:26,200
One quick.

594
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,300
So in terms of the dates, this would be sort of the three years.

595
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:38,160
it would be the third week in of September. Yeah, it's just kind of perennially those similar dates,

596
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:43,040
but we could emphasize third weekend specifically. Well, just figure if we knew, okay,

597
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,500
what's going to be that one, then everybody else could plan here together. So inverses in the middle

598
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:54,020
because we could write that into the reflection. And I'll ask the same thing to them when they come up

599
00:51:54,020 --> 00:52:00,020
I don't know any questions or staff.

600
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,360
We have the applicant here, and then I believe we have some more for all agencies on slide.

601
00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:11,140
All right, thank you.

602
00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:14,140
All right, come on up.

603
00:52:14,140 --> 00:52:15,380
It's you again.

604
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:19,720
Thank you again for welcoming up here.

605
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,620
I am very grateful to be able to present this new permit to all.

606
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:31,440
or these new dates and I believe in our discussions and our meetings in between the last

607
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,480
last hearing and today we found the solutions obviously the date being the biggest one but

608
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:42,560
we also address some other issues as well. I think we have all our emergency teams either on board

609
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:49,300
or at least willing to commit to the date and that was obviously the biggest issue at the previous hearing

610
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:56,400
And I do want to emphasize that in the meantime, we continue to be very proactive with our neighbors and our community.

611
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:05,280
We haven't stopped that as we continue to progress here to particular things for this application is there's the autumn race happening.

612
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:13,240
And that's a BD running race that happens. We are talking to them. We are now very operating with them.

613
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,480
of our traffic team to help that race.

614
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,840
We're going to add participants to it from our event.

615
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,860
So instead of running, we add an internal race last year.

616
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,000
We'll actually add those people instead to the autumn race.

617
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:26,360
And we're going to give free tickets to the volunteers.

618
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:28,900
We're going to give prizes for the winners.

619
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:31,560
So we actually have a really nice relationship with them.

620
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,900
I believe they wrote that Nick and I kind of said

621
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:37,840
that they're very much the support of our event.

622
00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:40,980
The other thing that was interesting is we learned from Annie

623
00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:46,200
the town that the B.B. Strong dinner, which doesn't conflict, that's the week before us.

624
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:52,300
But that's a, I mean, it's a really special event that happens in B.B. They have two expenses,

625
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,540
chairs and tables, and the tables are extraordinarily expensive for them because they have to

626
00:53:56,540 --> 00:54:00,540
ring them all the way from the front range. So it happens that it's especially to be realized that

627
00:54:00,540 --> 00:54:06,240
our tables come a day later than that B.B. Strong, and we have enough tables coming to our event

628
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,840
to complete take care of the tables for their event. So we are now bringing our tables in

629
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,000
day early from our vendor and blame them how those are free. So that will basically have the

630
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,660
cost of that to then and put it on really strong financial flooding for ongoing ongoing

631
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:26,600
so they can do it year after year. So again these are things that we do I think and it's fun to

632
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:33,140
do and be able to contribute and match what we're doing in the community with what we need in the community.

633
00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:40,400
So as Nick said, we are asking for essentially the same permit as the one that was approved for

634
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:48,480
I guess the one exception is this increase from 10,000 to 11,000 people want to clarify that

635
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:56,180
that extra 500, that 115 is just on Sunday, it's just for the locals only take it and

636
00:54:56,180 --> 00:55:02,540
we experience it both events about 700 to 800 people to part on Sunday, so net net it's

637
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:08,380
no real increase on site, so it works out quite well in terms of that, but it is just for the

638
00:55:08,380 --> 00:55:12,580
the locals want to take it that we like to provide a very inexpensive ticket on that Sunday.

639
00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:20,140
So the big things I want to point out about that increase from 10,000 to 11,000 is one last

640
00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:24,900
August once we moved to a Monday egress. We had no traffic issues at all.

641
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:31,480
No, there's zero thus happening. The other piece here is we'll have one more learning as they call.

642
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:36,280
Right, so we'll have this August event and this will be in September. So another chance to run the

643
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:42,980
run the traffic, assess what's going on and learn again from it and improve if we need to.

644
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,000
One piece there also from from from the August of September is that the C dot

645
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:56,440
statistics show that it's about 8 to 12% reduction in traffic from the middle of August to that third

646
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,400
week in September. So again, last traffic on the road to begin with and then and then this and then

647
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,860
learning we have and I think the big issue which the big piece is I think is very important

648
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:12,380
to point out here is that we've arranged a meeting in April. That's with Chief Morgan,

649
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:21,480
Sheriff Andy, CST and C dot all of us together in person here in DV to review and improve our

650
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,280
traffic planning and our traffic program and get us all on the same page. It's the first time

651
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,100
that that's really happened and maybe in a long time first time for me this happened so we'll

652
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:34,260
of all the major agencies here who are on the road.

653
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,720
And I think that will be the most significant improvements

654
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,220
we can make to it more importantly

655
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:41,260
that we're all being communication will all be face-to-face

656
00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:43,360
will know each other and can respond that way.

657
00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:44,760
So I think that's a huge improvement

658
00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:47,560
for the traffic situation, even though we haven't.

659
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,500
We didn't have a traffic last August,

660
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,860
but again, I think this will be the kind of final final touch

661
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:54,680
on a really good plan.

662
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,300
I think last, but maybe not least,

663
00:56:57,820 --> 00:56:59,580
is the real reason we're requesting

664
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:05,800
this capacity increases we needed to make our business viable. We're trying to bring a major

665
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:12,900
world-class axe and last summer was not terribly viable as a business and so this is something to

666
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:18,000
to allow us to get to that place in this long-term plan for us to make this business viable.

667
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:26,940
I appreciate your consideration that. One quick question. We'll be using Mount Valley Transit again

668
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:34,500
for shuttle. Yep, and we have a kernel I believe it's four shuttle buses. Yes, we have four

669
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:40,240
four fossil buses running. The other thing we've talked with Keith Morgan and he about is

670
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,940
we're going to establish walking routes and biking routes from this from the site to town

671
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:49,940
that will be mapped out for the patrons and then the town is excited but they're going to put up

672
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:54,860
bike racks at a specific location on that map so that really encourage the walking biking

673
00:57:54,860 --> 00:57:59,940
and these shuttle things and have it very defined routes that makes it easy for us to patrol

674
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:05,840
and make that safe as opposed to kind of like just go to town, right? And so this is in coordination

675
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,260
with the town of BVU to make sure these routes are done properly in a very effective

676
00:58:14,610 --> 00:58:20,030
question for the

677
00:58:27,610 --> 00:58:28,770
Thank you.

678
00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:29,850
All right.

679
00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:36,510
So before I go into the open public comment, I would love to hear from referral agencies.

680
00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:39,370
So let's see.

681
00:58:39,550 --> 00:58:42,110
I saw Andy on my earlier.

682
00:58:45,450 --> 00:58:48,790
I can measure as I can go first if you'd like.

683
00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:51,810
It'll be great, Andy. Thank you.

684
00:58:52,030 --> 00:59:01,050
Sure, just, you know, because I value your time, I'll just renew some of the things that I spoke to you about before in the last two meetings.

685
00:59:01,550 --> 00:59:05,150
Some of the concerns I have as the sheriff.

686
00:59:06,590 --> 00:59:14,550
Mostly, it relates to my staff, but there are some concerns regarding some of the community members that have voice on this pleasure.

687
00:59:15,790 --> 00:59:19,150
I'm just going to renew those in an interest of time.

688
00:59:19,950 --> 00:59:23,990
I will say for the record to be unfair me to say that

689
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:27,630
Sample's team has not worked well with us in the past.

690
00:59:28,210 --> 00:59:31,030
They have, I think they really got their act together.

691
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:34,550
They're security measures.

692
00:59:34,790 --> 00:59:36,270
We've had discussions about that.

693
00:59:36,270 --> 00:59:41,550
That'll fist us if we do move forward with this.

694
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:52,470
They've agreed to have their security teams respond to EMS calls in the venue, which was something that we did in the past.

695
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:56,770
We've had a few EMTs that were assaulted in the past.

696
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:59,970
And that's not all on Sample's team. That was at other meetings.

697
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:21,760
So, that will alleviate some of that responsibility we have with them doing that. They've also agreed to have a security team that is allowed to go hands on, meaning that they could detain somebody for us, if that need arose, which also would alleviate us having to have as much staffing.

698
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:48,000
So again, I would just renew some of the comments I had before and but I won't that won't be at a impact to samples team. I can't speak negatively about anything that they do as far as their security, etc. But I feel I want to my staff to still argue against that. Thank you all. Do you have any questions with me?

699
01:00:49,790 --> 01:00:58,470
Yeah, first thing. No, I take that. Yeah, that's how Paul nets out when I was

700
01:00:58,470 --> 01:01:05,510
expecting to go inside. Thank you. And I'm sorry if I missed this and I didn't

701
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:10,250
step off for a second, but you said, you said it's fine with the reporting

702
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:18,470
responsibilities both during and after this event, terms of reports and write-ups and

703
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:19,730
body cameras, etc.

704
01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:25,940
No, I mean, I'll continue that, you know, from the first time. I mean,

705
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:35,240
that's, it's a challenge for us, and it's challenging just, you know, with the, even though it's

706
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:41,540
been separated a little bit more, which we appreciate, it's still challenging from concert to concert,

707
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:45,820
being, you know, a month apart from each other. So there will be a lot of work our people are

708
01:01:45,820 --> 01:01:52,220
going to have to put on. But I can't sit here in front of you and say we can't do it. We definitely

709
01:01:52,220 --> 01:01:59,820
can. We've done it before. It's just not of course the line of work we want to get into, but

710
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:10,600
we're very capable. I also, at the cost of some of our training budget, we are sending some staff out

711
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:18,360
some really high quality training on putting these festivals and things like that as far as security measures

712
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:24,940
and things like that for law enforcement. So we are putting out staff to oversee some of these things

713
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:33,660
a little better. Thank you. Please continue to keep us at the prize that August goes and then again,

714
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:36,620
because if everyone happens, then that won't also.

715
01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:38,060
Thank you.

716
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:43,780
Are there, and again, I'm curious if there are,

717
01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:50,580
is there anything that the applicant could do

718
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:54,000
to help mitigate some of that reporting burden?

719
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,500
I think they have, in a sense,

720
01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:03,640
if we have less people on site,

721
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,500
there's not as many reports that need done.

722
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:12,720
So, you know, they're beefing up their security measures, allowing us to not have to have as many officers.

723
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:18,420
I'll tell you a lot of our calls had to do with the EMS calls for service.

724
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,920
So, they're going to have their own security that's going to respond to make sure EMS,

725
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:30,700
which is a good thing for EMS, make sure they're safe when they're responding to these medical inside the venue.

726
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:33,760
They're going to have their own security doing that.

727
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,780
So any time we had to do that before,

728
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,340
we had to have the body cams on,

729
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,160
we had to report all that.

730
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,280
So that's gonna alleviate that part for us.

731
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:45,670
Thank you, Andy.

732
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,240
See, I don't see Josh already.

733
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna say,

734
01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:57,560
Andy, I see you're on.

735
01:03:57,860 --> 01:04:00,160
I don't see, sure, if more getting,

736
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,960
but there's anything you'd like to add.

737
01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:09,340
Sure, I would add, yeah, just because I'm not seeing

738
01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:20,140
Sheriff Morgan on this morning just the BVPDs concerns about staffing the community

739
01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:25,780
dinner. So the community dinner is the Monday before this year it's gonna be

740
01:04:25,780 --> 01:04:32,340
on September 14th. I believe and Sergeant Garcia and Chief Morgan have

741
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:38,760
concerns adequately and safely staffing that dinner. We have 2800 people on

742
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:47,180
street and they historically have relied on Katie County Sheriff's Department to help.

743
01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:59,620
And so I just want to I guess kind of share their concerns that that's a very big event

744
01:04:59,620 --> 01:05:08,640
in town. It has a lot of community members. It's a high risk event and just that they want

745
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:18,020
could be safe and secure and they are nervous about what over time hours for the sheriff's

746
01:05:18,020 --> 01:05:23,140
department would look like and so just want to address that and then of course we're looking

747
01:05:23,140 --> 01:05:32,440
forward to the traffic plan meeting in April we would really like to see maps of the traffic plan

748
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,180
instead of just a written narrative.

749
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:39,060
So, diagrammatic to help our staff

750
01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:40,900
and just have more accountability.

751
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:42,700
So, those are kind of the two things

752
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:47,100
that the town would like to see with this new proposed concert.

753
01:05:48,500 --> 01:05:48,680
Thanks.

754
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,140
Thank you, Annie.

755
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:53,020
We have questions for Annie.

756
01:05:58,350 --> 01:06:02,410
Okay, I don't see Josh Warren yet.

757
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:06,150
Until then, I think did you have your hand up first?

758
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:09,050
since we're still, yeah, because we're still in that cycle,

759
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:10,710
if you have a response.

760
01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:15,420
To put responses to some of that.

761
01:06:15,460 --> 01:06:18,480
One, yes, the traffic meetings is intended to have full

762
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,560
diagrammatic maps as an output.

763
01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:24,220
One for the roadway, one for this walking path one for the bike.

764
01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:27,260
So they have three different maps that are to come out of that,

765
01:06:27,260 --> 01:06:30,420
and that would be the solve that issue.

766
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:34,240
That thing I wanted to point out which I forgot is one of the things

767
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,960
we're trying to do is improve the relationship between the audience

768
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,860
and the sheriff's department.

769
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,500
We know that there are rock and roll crowds can be a little,

770
01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:45,380
you know, not the love of the police all the time, right?

771
01:06:45,740 --> 01:06:47,420
So one of the things we're trying to do is improve that.

772
01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:48,920
And so we are adopting a couple of measures,

773
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,860
which we've talked with Sheriff Andy about,

774
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,040
which he thought were a good idea.

775
01:06:52,540 --> 01:06:54,860
One of them is we're going to make the audience,

776
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,180
of these audiences love these kind of commemorative tins.

777
01:06:57,380 --> 01:06:59,380
It's a kind of a special collector's item for them.

778
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,900
We're making ones that's only for the sheriff's department,

779
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,140
that they'll be the only ones who have possession of.

780
01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:06,340
They'll be the ones that pass it out to the audience members,

781
01:07:06,340 --> 01:07:11,780
only through nice engagements with the sheriff's team. So it's a way to kind of bring the sheriff

782
01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:17,820
and the audience together and the special kind of way to do that and we're also working with

783
01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:22,960
our both our artists to do the same kind of things to say what a big say something from the stage or

784
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:28,520
anything of that nature that we're actually trying to actually make that environment better for the

785
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,540
and these guys that don't necessarily love to be there, but it actually make it a kind of place

786
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:36,280
to be, so the constant things that we're trying to do as well.

787
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:37,820
I think that's it.

788
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,520
All right, okay.

789
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:48,680
Well, until Josh gets here, I think what we'll do is we'll open up a book common, and then when Josh

790
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,820
hops on, we'll have him fall into the fold.

791
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:58,520
Um, with that, there was not their sign-ups on the sheet at the beginning, but it's

792
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:05,980
or any public comment, just come on up, just for your name, and you're addressed, and

793
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:08,240
you've got three minutes, and we'll just go from there.

794
01:08:08,420 --> 01:08:08,740
Okay.

795
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:16,420
My name's Josh Chance, address 29145, kind of read 331, one of us to Colorado.

796
01:08:18,660 --> 01:08:27,480
So yeah, I'm a neighbor I live right behind the meadows, and my family also operates a farm

797
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:30,380
connected to the meadows, head water farms,

798
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:34,520
and we also work really closely with

799
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:42,380
airpoint cattle, who raises their kind of long meadows during certain times of the year.

800
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:48,680
But I just wanted to give everyone a little bit of context on land management side of

801
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:55,180
the meadows, as I've taken on a role as the land manager out there, and seems like a lot of the

802
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:56,980
conversation is around safety.

803
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:06,080
And what not, so, just a couple of things we're doing on our end to, I guess, encourage the safety

804
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,800
side of things is, we're continuing to do tree trimming in the area.

805
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:18,740
So a lot of cotton woods and what not, so we're making sure that all the dead branches are

806
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:26,580
trimmed up and, you know, there's not any little makers in the area. And we're also really

807
01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:33,000
working hard to improve the fencing in the area, as well as Sambo said, some of those

808
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:41,560
trails and traffic areas, roads and whatnot to make sure that people have safe places to travel

809
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:49,420
and that, you know, everyone's not coming in from every which direction but um yeah that's kind of

810
01:09:49,420 --> 01:09:54,560
those those those are some of our big focus and I also just wanted to point out the importance of

811
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:05,020
these festivals from um our end and the the lands and uh because they are really beneficial and

812
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:13,360
improvement of the land. I think, you know, it's easy to like maintain that land. And a lot

813
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,600
of people utilize it. It's almost kind of like a green space in the area in the open park. But

814
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:27,200
these concerts really enable us to continue to try to focus on improving that land. And I don't

815
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:34,540
know if y'all know or not, but there's a portion of the funds that are received from the festivals that

816
01:10:34,540 --> 01:10:42,500
directly towards the land management, not only in improving that landscape, but also like providing

817
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:51,780
jobs for myself, probably a group of six to seven other individuals, some of which are farm workers

818
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:58,420
on our farm during the summer season and it enables them to have some offseason employment.

819
01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:04,520
So I'm always really thankful for the meadows and the festivals from that and it kind of keeps

820
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:16,280
the farm of float and keeps my family going, but yeah, we're working to continue to improve that landscape and keep it safe and accessible for everyone.

821
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:19,260
Thank you, Josh.

822
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,140
Other comments in the room?

823
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:26,000
All right.

824
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:27,780
I see Josh's online.

825
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:35,260
So Josh will have you had your input and your thoughts from the U.S. side.

826
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,260
Can you guys hear me okay?

827
01:11:40,540 --> 01:11:41,120
Yes.

828
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:41,740
Yeah.

829
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,500
Yeah.

830
01:11:43,740 --> 01:11:45,360
Sorry for the double booking this morning.

831
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,320
I was able to meet with Sam Bliner.

832
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,400
It's been probably four or five weeks ago now.

833
01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:56,260
Just to discuss ideas on providing medical services at that event.

834
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,260
We've identified within our department that it's not going to be something that we can

835
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:13,100
Support to the extent of providing all the staff for the entire medical kind of footprint, if you will, that's needed to support these type of events.

836
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:20,520
You know, we will look to put an ambulance there to manage any transports from the venue to the hospital.

837
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:35,140
But Michael and I have talked about kind of doing an interview process for a couple different medical vendors that would maybe fit the bill when it comes to being able to support an event like this.

838
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:47,780
And I did receive kind of a preliminary idea on staffing that Michael had shared with me last week, which I have.

839
01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:53,620
sit down and iron out what that really looks like for staffing, you know, there are initial,

840
01:12:53,620 --> 01:12:58,600
there are initial proposed like I don't feel as if it meets the staffing need at all and would be

841
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:05,720
really owners on a number of other entities within their specifically potentially law enforcement,

842
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:12,460
which I have concerns with. So anyhow, we're going to, that's the plan that we will come up with

843
01:13:12,460 --> 01:13:15,880
with the model, I will be the one signing off on it,

844
01:13:15,980 --> 01:13:18,700
still as the director of art department

845
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,760
overseeing the medical services for that venue.

846
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,980
There will still be a presence during that,

847
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,260
just to make sure there is some collaboration

848
01:13:30,260 --> 01:13:33,560
and congruency when it comes to how our crews interact

849
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,440
with the medical staff that's provided.

850
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,280
So yeah, that's kind of the plan

851
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,680
that we have as of right now.

852
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:46,860
And again, the initial proposal that one of the vendors had shared with Michael that he passed on to me.

853
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,940
It doesn't fit the numbers, or I'm misunderstanding it. So we'll have to iron that all out if this is approved.

854
01:13:57,850 --> 01:14:00,790
That's a very small conversation to go in there.

855
01:14:01,150 --> 01:14:02,410
Want any questions for Josh?

856
01:14:09,850 --> 01:14:10,450
Yes.

857
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,220
That Josh and I have talked about the stackings needed.

858
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:20,260
We got our first poll zone from the group called Stadium,

859
01:14:20,540 --> 01:14:23,160
that actually Josh recommended that we address,

860
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,840
they came in, I agree, to Josh,

861
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,600
they came in to light on staffing.

862
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:28,740
We got our separate poll zone today,

863
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,260
we're going to call Paradox here,

864
01:14:30,420 --> 01:14:31,880
but third proposal coming in as well,

865
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,520
those are beefier, I would say.

866
01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:35,640
And those are going to go to Josh's,

867
01:14:35,780 --> 01:14:38,040
well, Josh will ultimately decide her on.

868
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,840
We have that we know we have to not work bodies across these,

869
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,680
these things that Josh will be the ultimate decide her.

870
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,400
But it's the proper staffing and then we will go there.

871
01:14:46,540 --> 01:14:52,040
So we're making sure Josh is the ultimate arbiter that he signs off on the plan and that he signs off actually on the vendors.

872
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:58,020
So any vendor that we like, Josh will be interviewing that talk is that I'm making sure he's happy with that.

873
01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,980
So I'm not worried about us having.

874
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:14,540
Good. Right number of people and I think that that first band that came through to save you in this light. So if we we even have a new piece of plan or to go with the different vendors. So but I'll be at Josh's discretion as to the number of people we have on site.

875
01:15:14,820 --> 01:15:17,100
Thank you.

876
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,000
All right.

877
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,120
So let's

878
01:15:27,140 --> 01:15:35,580
see, Josh, our hands up, okay, so can you on Josh?

879
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:46,540
Yeah, I just wanted to make mention of, you know, the goal again for us in, in the way we're going to approach this is to do our best again to make sure that.

880
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:53,180
The county resources aren't impacted by this event from the perspective of impacting medical services.

881
01:15:55,420 --> 01:16:02,860
We're providing to our community, and then also providing as much safety as we can to the other responders within the venue.

882
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:10,780
I alluded at a moment ago, but I don't and he's going to have some of his crews in there, and if we were to go with the proposal that was initially outlined.

883
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:14,000
They would, they would not be in a good way.

884
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:16,480
They would be overwhelmed, I feel really quickly.

885
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:27,980
So just know that that's my goal in doing kind of what I'm, what I'm involved with here and the oversight and ensuring the plan will fit the need of the event is to

886
01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:39,940
provide the service to the, to the participants, but then also to make sure that it has less, the minimal impact to us as a community from providing medical services,

887
01:16:39,940 --> 01:16:45,160
but then also ensuring that there is support for those that are engaged in this event.

888
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:47,060
So I just wanted to make mention of that.

889
01:16:48,380 --> 01:16:49,500
Appreciate that.

890
01:16:52,170 --> 01:16:52,490
All right.

891
01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:56,290
So public comment is still open anybody online.

892
01:16:56,430 --> 01:17:00,230
If you have a public comment, you'd like to make these raise your hands.

893
01:17:01,270 --> 01:17:02,130
We can recognize you.

894
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,280
I'm not seeing anybody.

895
01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:14,620
So officially closed public comment.

896
01:17:14,620 --> 01:17:20,020
Um, at this point, there are questions you'd like to ask.

897
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:21,420
Yeah, Martin, Martin.

898
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:36,160
So Josh, was assuming that they could find the right, uh, contractor to come in with

899
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:41,140
the best bodies and the best expertise and you guys aren't required to be there.

900
01:17:43,660 --> 01:17:46,880
And you think you can do this?

901
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,020
Yeah.

902
01:17:48,220 --> 01:17:48,600
Yeah.

903
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,820
I actually feel confident.

904
01:17:51,040 --> 01:18:00,500
You know, as I, as Michael just alluded to, there's a particular vendor that we've worked with in the past that is actually based out of here in Colorado.

905
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:09,700
And part of their proposal, which was very light on staffing, but they identified that they'll have a physician on site as well.

906
01:18:09,700 --> 01:18:26,100
So I feel confident in the fact we could get enough people there and the right people there to be able to support this again, it will be an impact to our services that we are providing other than we will be staffing to have an ambulance there.

907
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:34,700
That ambulance will be staffed with whereas staff it with three people because the majority of the transports that we've had to do from that event have.

908
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:45,940
required some extra hands if you will. So I do. I feel as if once we're able to go through a bedding process of these few different vendors if you will.

909
01:18:46,380 --> 01:18:50,540
We'll be able to outline what we feel staffing wise needs to look like.

910
01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:59,240
To where it's manageable within the venue and provides good service to the venue, but then won't impact us from a medical perspective.

911
01:19:02,340 --> 01:19:13,750
If you do have to do a transport, I assume that place takes an hour, maybe longer, what does

912
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:16,130
how does that impact you?

913
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:25,110
Yeah, I mean, it's been, it's one of those like really challenging spaces to be in, in that,

914
01:19:25,150 --> 01:19:29,410
you know, when we looked at the numbers of transfers that we've had over the last several events,

915
01:19:32,770 --> 01:19:48,630
The opportunity for there to be a second need for a transport there, of course, exists, and then that's that and we would just have to lean on pulling in one of our outside resources, our dedicated community resources to assist with that.

916
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:52,070
If we were caught in that position of where that ambulance was too far out of place.

917
01:19:53,330 --> 01:20:03,990
I do anticipate there being, you know, maybe a little bit less of a need to transport some patients specifically if they do have a physician on site during the entire event.

918
01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:06,150
So I mean, that's how we would have to manage it.

919
01:20:06,170 --> 01:20:10,750
I mean, we could propose of staffing to ambulances to be there.

920
01:20:11,070 --> 01:20:16,070
But again, we run into just the challenge of, you know,

921
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:25,510
staff's bandwidth of them already, you know, being dedicated to providing services to our community and then now being put in a position to staff and other ambulance.

922
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:32,410
Because again, we're staffing these with three people, so that's going to be, you know, six people 24 hours a day.

923
01:20:32,410 --> 01:20:46,930
or to staff those of it. So it's definitely something we can consider. If you guys would prefer that we've moved in that direction, I will propose that again to then provide the ensure that we're not taking resources from our community potentially.

924
01:20:51,710 --> 01:20:56,530
Typically, how many how many transports do you have from these events.

925
01:20:57,230 --> 01:21:07,990
the last couple of ends we've had upwards of seven. I think they were actually, they both the last two most recent events we had seven transports from both of them.

926
01:21:12,260 --> 01:21:17,760
So three, eight of it. No, seven of them. Each of them each of them. Yes.

927
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:31,370
Okay. Look at that.

928
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:33,250
Any other questions for Josh?

929
01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:48,330
Okay, so public comment is closed, so there's more questions. Otherwise, I'm going to deliberation and after that, you know, take any more comments for many issues.

930
01:21:48,330 --> 01:21:54,090
So, sir, any other questions we have applicant or anybody else is for me?

931
01:21:54,430 --> 01:21:54,970
I do.

932
01:21:55,330 --> 01:21:55,470
Okay.

933
01:21:56,110 --> 01:21:56,710
Please ask.

934
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:57,730
Thank you.

935
01:21:59,450 --> 01:22:03,290
The water supply section of the application was not completed.

936
01:22:03,630 --> 01:22:04,710
Is that need to be?

937
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:06,950
I don't think if this juncture.

938
01:22:07,550 --> 01:22:15,070
So the way we typically write these resolutions is that we don't necessarily ask for each one of their detailed plans this far out.

939
01:22:15,070 --> 01:22:16,890
I think we wait to see if they get approval.

940
01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:21,170
And then they would get 90 days out from the event

941
01:22:21,170 --> 01:22:23,650
to get approval of those specific plans

942
01:22:23,650 --> 01:22:24,910
by those specific agencies.

943
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:28,010
So to Josh's point, at least 90 days out,

944
01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:31,770
they would have to have a emergency medical service plan

945
01:22:31,770 --> 01:22:35,150
approved by Josh in order to proceed with the event.

946
01:22:35,210 --> 01:22:36,810
And that would be the same for the water.

947
01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:40,970
So that would be the timing for the entire completion

948
01:22:40,970 --> 01:22:41,830
of the application.

949
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:45,250
Okay, that was my second question.

950
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:49,410
This one thing I would ask to that point.

951
01:22:49,410 --> 01:22:53,310
I know 90 days out seems to be the number on quite a few things.

952
01:22:54,050 --> 01:22:57,470
I'm curious if it would be, it could be kids 22 here,

953
01:22:57,870 --> 01:23:01,490
but is it more beneficial to have that out 120 days,

954
01:23:01,550 --> 01:23:04,230
both for the applicant and staff and, you know,

955
01:23:04,330 --> 01:23:06,850
would that help everybody for planning was done real earlier?

956
01:23:06,850 --> 01:23:10,090
Brandon and things kind of was changed and sometimes hard to have things

957
01:23:10,090 --> 01:23:15,810
on that far out, but just for future thought, and I've opened that up to the applicant as well to

958
01:23:15,810 --> 01:23:20,570
respond to. And they made you it that far out. I think 90 days it's just kind of the hard on it,

959
01:23:20,610 --> 01:23:23,310
but if we want to move that further out, we're certainly able to do

960
01:23:26,670 --> 01:23:29,050
that. That timing is fine for us.

961
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:38,510
I think it's been more stonophilated in other words, is this year for anybody with their

962
01:23:38,510 --> 01:23:43,110
They have to prove that, but that exciting that deadline doesn't bother us at all.

963
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:45,090
Okay. Okay. Good afternoon. Thank you.

964
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:49,780
Same lines.

965
01:23:51,140 --> 01:23:59,060
We'll in how, is it determined that an event outside of this musical event would

966
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:09,960
require a pause or shut down of the event? We're obviously looking at the

967
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:17,800
forest forest, but that would be them and the example of that. So who and how does that happen?

968
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,680
I think that would be a condition to be built into the resolution as to, you know, if there's

969
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:28,820
an emergency that necessitates canceling an event, that's typically something that I don't

970
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:32,480
think we write in as a blanket language, but it could certainly provide.

971
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:37,420
And as well, we are

972
01:24:37,420 --> 01:24:39,640
have served for all those events of the United States.

973
01:24:40,460 --> 01:24:45,680
We go bankrupt if that happens and typically what we've seen is that if the share

974
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:50,900
of EMS fire, any of those three determined that the bet needs to stop that it stops.

975
01:24:51,220 --> 01:24:55,900
So we really rely on your service to say we're not able to provide for this event.

976
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:56,700
We don't think it's safe.

977
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:02,060
Whatever their condition is, but if Kira says there's a fire outside the county,

978
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:06,540
we need to stop the bet that it stopped and it stopped either fire during whatever

979
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:11,080
whatever that time thing is it doesn't matter to us obviously as implications for

980
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,920
evacuating people potentially that's that's correct so we and we would and that our

981
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:21,280
emergency operating plan has the evacuation plan in it but it would be triggered most likely

982
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,480
by your emergency service saying this is time to stop us event. I look forward to that

983
01:25:28,180 --> 01:25:31,440
group consensus around that after the evening.

984
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,200
Any other questions before deliberation?

985
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:50,800
I guess we asked within the permit itself, there was a bunch of report act, correct?

986
01:25:52,060 --> 01:25:53,960
Okay, so that's just part of our list.

987
01:25:55,140 --> 01:26:01,040
Yeah, absolutely, so they do the 90 day out and then usually there's the annual review as well after that.

988
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:16,220
And I think for the August one, we did ask to get a pretty detailed economic impact out of that, and I think if we move forward with this, I want the same thing.

989
01:26:16,220 --> 01:26:24,880
Time. Connected to that for me is the entity putting on the concert as a nonprofit. Correct.

990
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:32,240
So is this a question of, and this may be for example, is this a question of, did we make,

991
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,300
did we break even, or did we lose money?

992
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:43,420
I think it's to understand the benefit to the town of EV, and then the community in the county writ large as to how much, you know,

993
01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:46,780
excess funds were brought in as a result of this event.

994
01:26:47,740 --> 01:26:53,440
I am for one of curious about where that ends up,

995
01:26:53,620 --> 01:26:59,760
negative, great even for positive in some sort of report format.

996
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,400
What's going to say to that,

997
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,160
there's the $2 fee I see you add on to,

998
01:27:06,380 --> 01:27:08,080
I think, community benefit for the tickets.

999
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,060
Is that for the entire event or is that?

1000
01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:21,240
Yes, it took no $2 for every ticket sold to the public goes to that's a fun for charity and the entire revenue from the Sunday local tickets goes to charity

1001
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:32,920
So those two piles are added together and that's our we come to our charitable contribution I was reading an article and

1002
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:52,200
I don't know, some scientific journals about noise canceling techniques, using sound waves to put incoming sound waves out of phase so you can't hear it on that sound wall.

1003
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,260
But he has explored any of us.

1004
01:27:54,820 --> 01:28:00,060
We are, and we actually have his name is Dave Ratt, which is kind of funny last name, Ratt

1005
01:28:00,060 --> 01:28:04,160
sound out of LA, but he's the nation's expert on that.

1006
01:28:04,180 --> 01:28:08,880
He's the one that solves the problem actually in New York.

1007
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,680
They have, I don't know if you've, New York force hills, old state tennis centers, sits

1008
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,920
with apartments literally like we're just to see the tennis from.

1009
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,180
And then best now is a conscious of he's the one that solves it there.

1010
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,220
He's coming out.

1011
01:28:21,220 --> 01:28:27,860
He does this thing, that's the same thing, it's, they call it cardioid sound, so you can kind of play the bass waves against the

1012
01:28:27,860 --> 01:28:36,780
Conversation, and then he also does something called dimpling, which I know, and this is as much as I know, but that he is both putting it in a flat line.

1013
01:28:37,420 --> 01:28:41,380
He alternates the LIMMM, and that's mostly on the other side's easier to cancel than.

1014
01:28:41,820 --> 01:28:49,300
So we're having him do a full sound analysis, so becoming able, like April or May, to walk the site and do that.

1015
01:28:49,300 --> 01:28:52,600
So, yes, we're going to kind of hopefully be at the cutting edge of that.

1016
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:58,020
Exactly what you're said, this kind of ability to kind of cancel away, so they can escape the grounds

1017
01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:04,310
in the August concert.

1018
01:29:04,610 --> 01:29:07,070
You can't attend thousands of new attend.

1019
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:12,090
Of a very waiting, I think that potential reaction, you know, both over the years, the number of attendees.

1020
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:18,270
I believe that three year permit was was, um, you would have the ability to amend that resolution,

1021
01:29:18,270 --> 01:29:32,470
But I don't think there is a staggering or phasing built into it. That would be 10,000 and 10,000, 500, 11,000. I think it just says 10,000 if you wanted to amend that or you wanted to request an amendment that could occur, but it's not phased.

1022
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:33,950
Thank you.

1023
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:37,350
Thank you.

1024
01:29:37,390 --> 01:29:37,850
Thank you for delivering.

1025
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:39,630
All right.

1026
01:29:40,190 --> 01:29:40,910
So, thank you, Nick.

1027
01:29:41,150 --> 01:29:41,330
All right.

1028
01:29:41,530 --> 01:29:47,190
So, no more comments from the publics that the applicants was just us chatting now with information

1029
01:29:47,190 --> 01:29:50,190
we know and we learned in what we've asked.

1030
01:29:51,410 --> 01:29:55,050
I guess I'll share some of my thoughts first.

1031
01:29:56,110 --> 01:29:59,750
One thing I can say is I definitely appreciate the.

1032
01:30:00,740 --> 01:30:29,020
Continued conversation that's been going on with the applicant and our services, and even with the community stuff. So I really appreciate that, you know, tying you with the race and the chairs and tables for the community dinner. I think that's a great extension of more community benefit. So I want to recognize that and it's also the fact of working with EMS and the sheriff's department. I also do want to recognize the fact that I think there will always be

1033
01:30:29,020 --> 01:30:37,480
always be hard with stuff, right? We're a small community, we only have what we have. But I appreciate Josh's statement about

1034
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:43,020
county resources cannot be impacted by the event. There's too many other people here that

1035
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:50,020
paint tax are to be able to have those, right? So it's really important that we don't impact that.

1036
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:58,100
But to the point it does sound as though you have a plan in place with EMS to have a better staffing for

1037
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:08,100
or ambulances. I'm almost wondering, due to the fact, it could be a rough wildfire year,

1038
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:14,220
hopefully nothing happens year, but maybe having an additional ambulance on site would be beneficial.

1039
01:31:14,660 --> 01:31:20,600
If something were to happen here and the rest of our services had to be elsewhere, just something to ponder.

1040
01:31:22,540 --> 01:31:26,880
I want to be safe and sorry if you will.

1041
01:31:28,260 --> 01:31:34,420
You know, but that's up for conversation and I'd actually rely on Josh's input there.

1042
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:43,620
But seem to share if it sounds as though I know in the past one of the things they had mentioned was

1043
01:31:45,730 --> 01:31:47,170
the fact that they

1044
01:31:47,170 --> 01:31:54,990
people that were brought in weren't able to, I think in terms he had used with hands on, we didn't have the ability to have hands on.

1045
01:31:54,990 --> 01:32:03,830
And if there's no hands on, then it does present more work and people work and all the things for our local sheriff's department.

1046
01:32:03,990 --> 01:32:12,970
So I think having the ability to have folks that are there a security that can be hands on that sounds like definitely a big step in the right direction to go.

1047
01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:15,350
I'm glad to see that.

1048
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:31,650
I think having those additional teams in place to alleviate the pressure is definitely a positive.

1049
01:32:32,430 --> 01:32:41,130
So I really appreciate seeing so much more moving forward and how can we be more collaborative with this process.

1050
01:32:41,130 --> 01:32:53,230
And the last point I'll make and let me get off my soapbox and my colleagues jump in is, um, you know, and as the BV person, right, so I'm up here.

1051
01:32:53,650 --> 01:33:03,530
I know BV is a referral agency, and but I the way I look at the things they have to share is more than that.

1052
01:33:03,610 --> 01:33:10,890
They're the major stakeholder because they are, they are our next coordinators and we're even as held is right

1053
01:33:10,890 --> 01:33:15,390
outside the town limits, right? It's not exactly like, you know, out in the middle of

1054
01:33:15,390 --> 01:33:21,630
a running footprint. So it means a lot to me personally and obviously in this role that

1055
01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:30,850
we are close collaborative collaborators with them. I think the understanding of was that the

1056
01:33:30,850 --> 01:33:36,390
meaning you're going to have an equal. It's a big positive. I think that's something I would

1057
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:40,970
to see for all of our big events, it's getting together early on, so everybody's not

1058
01:33:40,970 --> 01:33:45,170
saying room, you're all talking about the same thing, so everybody can be on the same page.

1059
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:51,430
Again, I think you can nail out a lot of different things for their in-person having this

1060
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:57,450
maps that's a must but sounds like that's coming, but really tying in BVs requests for the

1061
01:33:57,450 --> 01:34:01,630
traffic plans and sharing, you know, obviously the share from the rest of the emergency management

1062
01:34:01,630 --> 01:34:08,670
teams are on board with that. I want to make that. However, we can, that's a mandatory inclusion of

1063
01:34:10,850 --> 01:34:20,390
BV, at least chief and town. There's sign-off on that. So it just impacts them more than

1064
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:31,610
impacts anybody else. And I think that's something that rather being a referral and that's a

1065
01:34:31,610 --> 01:34:44,610
I think it's kind of a smattering of all the things that Wally heard and kind of get that out like you all think, but to share with the public remind me where my mind is, um, with some of the work that's been done since the last meeting.

1066
01:34:46,850 --> 01:34:51,350
Anyhow. Thanks for tuning in to the Kina. So box.

1067
01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:55,450
What do you guys think?

1068
01:34:55,450 --> 01:35:07,650
I like also the communication and openness to consider all ideas and the situation in an effort

1069
01:35:07,650 --> 01:35:13,370
to try and create a safe and responsible event as possible without putting other parts

1070
01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:21,570
of the county at risk. I also want to mention that in also plot the tables and continue to

1071
01:35:21,570 --> 01:35:26,730
openness to looking at the ways to do things between now and September that might just continue

1072
01:35:26,730 --> 01:35:30,990
to add to the overall benefit to the community, particularly

1073
01:35:30,990 --> 01:35:33,590
BV of this event.

1074
01:35:34,590 --> 01:35:37,670
But I also just want to recognize publicly

1075
01:35:37,670 --> 01:35:39,550
that it does help tourism.

1076
01:35:39,810 --> 01:35:45,330
It does help restaurant sales and trails and hiking

1077
01:35:45,330 --> 01:35:48,630
and camping and other retail vendors

1078
01:35:48,630 --> 01:35:50,210
that bring these people in the top.

1079
01:35:50,810 --> 01:35:53,330
So to the extent that we can continue to do that safely

1080
01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:55,370
and responsibly without putting ourselves

1081
01:35:55,370 --> 01:36:00,370
at risk on the downside, because everybody looks good if it goes off smoothly, everybody has

1082
01:36:01,270 --> 01:36:01,790
fun.

1083
01:36:02,130 --> 01:36:08,390
God forbid nobody dies or, you know, worse and, you know, everybody's happy and wow,

1084
01:36:08,570 --> 01:36:09,770
let's do this again next year.

1085
01:36:10,350 --> 01:36:17,430
But the first time something goes south and it wasn't thought of, you know, our butts are

1086
01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:18,610
in a ringer.

1087
01:36:18,610 --> 01:36:48,050
And I'm going to say our all of us, so I appreciate the diligence that both the commissioners as well as the DPN our group and as well as sample and your team and the BBD and EMS and the sheriff's department of all putting in to try to make this happen in a way it's good for the community would get the good out of it the fun of it.

1088
01:36:48,050 --> 01:36:53,770
and that put ourselves at risk and so that work needs to continue.

1089
01:36:54,010 --> 01:36:58,130
There's some events and things scheduled for that and I think we're doing a good job of

1090
01:36:58,130 --> 01:37:04,370
due diligence around this all the way around it, particularly the sheriff and EMS and the local police departments

1091
01:37:04,370 --> 01:37:10,750
and those folks are trying to bend over backwards without going over the edge with their staff's

1092
01:37:10,750 --> 01:37:14,730
and team and their understanding of the risks that are present.

1093
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:30,460
I appreciate the work that's been going on to hopefully make this one really smoothly.

1094
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:40,380
I think the ultimate expectation for me would be that these events require no extra work

1095
01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:43,420
from our share of our EMS folks.

1096
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:51,660
Ultimately, a sound solution is found to contain the sound,

1097
01:37:51,980 --> 01:37:55,500
but in the venue, and I was really impressed

1098
01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:58,320
with some of the work that's going on in that space, right?

1099
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,660
Now, it's really kind of space age,

1100
01:38:00,660 --> 01:38:02,880
green wild technology that's happening.

1101
01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:08,720
It doesn't sound like it's completely out of a universe

1102
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:15,520
expensive to do either. Pretty interesting stuff. So I appreciate that you're looking to back.

1103
01:38:17,480 --> 01:38:27,040
You know, I think the the traffic plan is probably still the big kind of question mark

1104
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:33,940
and having that concentration of people in one spot.

1105
01:38:35,820 --> 01:38:40,280
It's going to have an impact on the neighbors, no matter what you do.

1106
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:48,920
So finding ways to mitigate that is critical.

1107
01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:52,680
I do think that

1108
01:38:54,700 --> 01:38:57,900
having a few events out there a year

1109
01:38:57,900 --> 01:39:12,420
It may change that as open space and working ad-layout is important, it's important to valley, it's important to the neighborhood, it's important to kind of

1110
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:16,140
our history.

1111
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:27,390
And again, I've thought a lot about kind of this number of people thing.

1112
01:39:28,090 --> 01:39:32,050
We're really kind of pushing them like that's here.

1113
01:39:32,670 --> 01:39:35,710
It just, you know,

1114
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:40,350
in my discussions with kind of neighbors and stuff,

1115
01:39:40,590 --> 01:39:44,770
they're like, you know, 5, 7,000, and it's not so bad.

1116
01:39:44,770 --> 01:39:51,510
sort of get up to that 11. Well, I wasn't a lot of people.

1117
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:54,680
I

1118
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:21,200
probably, and I understand the number of things to make the event viable, but there's

1119
01:40:25,130 --> 01:40:25,150
some

1120
01:40:25,150 --> 01:40:31,990
I hope we folks from the town that are going to have easier access to get out there

1121
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:34,490
of the folks that are coming out of state.

1122
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:47,630
We're also, I think, seeing pretty flat tourism, pretty flat sales tax.

1123
01:40:47,730 --> 01:40:52,310
We have to think about that and consider it.

1124
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:55,190
And a lot of factors that go into that,

1125
01:40:55,350 --> 01:41:01,800
but I think building a vibrant local music scene

1126
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,040
is something that people are looking for when they come to town.

1127
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,600
They choose where to vacation.

1128
01:41:10,660 --> 01:41:13,240
And so while this is only quite part of this,

1129
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,960
it does help drive that wider music library

1130
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:22,820
in the county that does help with our main industry, which is, first,

1131
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:47,940
so with that said, I would make a motion to approve the application with a couple of modifications to the 14 findings that are included in their number three and

1132
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:55,620
Fair enough, as Road Bridge, Public Health Department at Town of BV, Emergency Medical Services,

1133
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:03,760
and Chief E. County Fire Protection District have all reviewed the application and accepted.

1134
01:42:08,330 --> 01:42:17,010
And then I would add another request note. This is a finding or a request that can be built into

1135
01:42:17,010 --> 01:42:21,630
the resolution, but I would like to see a report out on those

1136
01:42:21,630 --> 01:42:24,290
neighborhood things and what is being said.

1137
01:42:27,150 --> 01:42:29,750
And direct staff to better resolution,

1138
01:42:30,330 --> 01:42:31,730
thank you.

1139
01:42:33,690 --> 01:42:39,150
No, you asked for one amendment to that, which would

1140
01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:40,730
be through the town of BB.

1141
01:42:42,910 --> 01:42:43,710
It's a signature.

1142
01:42:44,330 --> 01:42:45,970
Well, for the traffic plan.

1143
01:42:45,970 --> 01:42:53,370
you don't know if they're in there. I didn't see it. Just for specifically the traffic plan that they are in a

1144
01:42:53,370 --> 01:42:56,250
I mean, the question

1145
01:43:01,820 --> 01:43:19,040
and then also the motion and happy to attend these at 10,000 for this first year for both of us, see how all of these plants play out with all these different agencies and then both from there,

1146
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:27,900
that's making it.

1147
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:56,960
I'm not further discussion yet, but I'd be willing to give them 11,000 if they're bringing an additional support for agencies, to bring in additional long-forcement folks to offset our community impact in terms of our shares department and they're bringing in more folks for EMS, personally, I'd be okay.

1148
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,340
But you made the motion. So it's.

1149
01:44:01,420 --> 01:44:01,600
You

1150
01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:10,990
second it without that amendment.

1151
01:44:15,810 --> 01:44:17,470
As if not, I will make the second.

1152
01:44:17,730 --> 01:44:23,660
Well, I'm concerned about that as long as it's going to be covered in this item three.

1153
01:44:24,890 --> 01:44:26,710
We ruined that review the executive.

1154
01:44:31,170 --> 01:44:32,310
Okay, all second.

1155
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:38,310
The first and the second with the amended motion, which.

1156
01:44:39,930 --> 01:44:44,970
You got it? Okay. Okay, for a second. All in favor.

1157
01:44:47,050 --> 01:44:47,190
Hi.

1158
01:44:51,410 --> 01:44:52,410
Thank you.

1159
01:44:56,510 --> 01:44:58,390
Anybody need to stretch the legs for hot seconds?

1160
01:44:58,990 --> 01:44:59,230
Okay.

1161
01:45:00,460 --> 01:45:04,960
Three meetings later. All right. Okay.

1162
01:45:10,740 --> 01:45:15,880
All right. Let me one second folks, guys. Back together here.

1163
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:28,380
I'll wait for a second for people to throw. Hang on there on my folks, which letting folks there all the room.

1164
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:33,800
All right.

1165
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:41,140
So up next, we have discussed and consider proposed voluntary flow management program agreement

1166
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:53,560
just 26 through a 2031 and kind of take lead on this as I've been tuning in and working

1167
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:54,760
with this group.

1168
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,320
So just it's funny, just a little bit of history.

1169
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:03,080
The voluntary flow management program is probably one of the most important agreements

1170
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,980
We haven't this county, but it's probably the least known about, it's just interesting.

1171
01:46:09,340 --> 01:46:15,420
Now, people on the water space, I think, are very aware of it, but for the rest of our community, I don't think

1172
01:46:16,500 --> 01:46:22,460
tune into it and it's, you know, as a camp layman right, you know, why would they? But so it did just want to share a brief

1173
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:32,060
little bit of history, little bit of information for those listening and I think it's important to really kind of recognize what this program does.

1174
01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:39,300
It's originally established in 1999, it's a little while ago, but it's changed along the way.

1175
01:46:40,580 --> 01:46:48,280
Meant purpose for the voluntary flow management program was to really help with the fisheries and ensuring that we could maybe get to a

1176
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:55,220
gold medal trail fisheries status, which we have, which is great, but also to recognize the boating industry.

1177
01:46:55,220 --> 01:47:01,460
And this area that we're talking about is about 102 miles stretch along the Arkansas river.

1178
01:47:02,820 --> 01:47:11,480
And so there's five partners to the agreement that I should know them off my head.

1179
01:47:11,620 --> 01:47:22,560
I always get the state well, because the various letters that go to that you know,

1180
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:27,500
word all the acronyms, but so it's comprised of obviously

1181
01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:30,660
JP County, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, South Eastern

1182
01:47:30,660 --> 01:47:35,140
Colorado Water Conservation District, and then the Arkansas River

1183
01:47:35,140 --> 01:47:40,420
Outfitters Association, which is always the one that I screw up and then

1184
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:46,020
a trout unlimited. And so these, this agreement is five-year

1185
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:50,820
agreement. We do review it every year, as a check-in, and there are

1186
01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:55,040
meeting is usually before this one from 8.30 to 9.

1187
01:47:56,740 --> 01:48:03,940
The main effort and point of this, right, is to ensure that there's healthy flow of water

1188
01:48:03,940 --> 01:48:10,660
coming down the Arkansas, but that varies in times, I'm sorry, varies in amounts throughout the year.

1189
01:48:11,020 --> 01:48:18,560
And so, a big focus of this is from July 1 through August 15, the program states that we want to aim for

1190
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:26,680
700 CFS along the river, right, and then from the rest of the year, they really try to focus on

1191
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:32,580
250 to 500 CFS that goes to the winter and then back into the earlier portion of the year.

1192
01:48:32,740 --> 01:48:37,620
And that changes depending on the flow and a lot of other variations, but it's really to help

1193
01:48:37,620 --> 01:48:47,280
healthy fish, healthy fish, hatching season, just to really, yes, well, I'd support in that

1194
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:47,740
way.

1195
01:48:48,180 --> 01:48:54,540
And so the five partners that work together on this, the reason I'm sorry, the agreement we have

1196
01:48:54,540 --> 01:48:57,040
for this year isn't changing from the last five years.

1197
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:01,260
Everybody is on the same page that we like what has been in place.

1198
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,800
There's two other mean components to it.

1199
01:49:04,820 --> 01:49:12,500
The office of reclamation really does move the water, and then south eastern plays a pretty big part as well as Pueblo water.

1200
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,940
It's most of the water that goes through the Arkansas river is actually not ours, it's public.

1201
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:22,080
So they have the opportunity to move this water for various reasons and various needs.

1202
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:29,520
A lot of this water also comes from Project Water, which is called Freyark, that a lot of that comes from the Colorado River.

1203
01:49:30,460 --> 01:49:48,440
Earlier today, I had my meeting with the voluntary flow management folks, like looking for my notes on the back of my papers, and office of reclamation did mention that this is going to be one of those wait and seeers, the voluntary flow management program.

1204
01:49:48,440 --> 01:50:04,600
Usually we're able to get about 10,000 additional if you're feet of water to come through to help hit that 700 CFS that we look for during this mean at the meantime frame.

1205
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:16,260
It's great, but that comes after a friark water, all the project water comes through and also all these other prior agreements and water rights water needs are taken care of.

1206
01:50:16,260 --> 01:50:23,540
So depending on what happens with the rest of the state in terms of water accumulation run off,

1207
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:29,880
really does still impact what we hope here. Last year, at the end of 2025, I'm sorry,

1208
01:50:29,900 --> 01:50:36,740
at the end of the season for 2025, CBW did send in a letter to the Reclamation Office,

1209
01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:46,240
asking for additional shares of water because the 10,000 was not enough. I think they

1210
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:52,220
I think the other entities that help might have been a war on Colorado Springs. So all this to

1211
01:50:52,220 --> 01:50:58,480
say that there's a lot of working parts, but why it's so important to continue with this agreement

1212
01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:03,340
and what it means for our community is a healthy fishery, right? So that helps people that are

1213
01:51:03,340 --> 01:51:08,640
recreating it, helps our guides, and then also the same with the boating industry. It's very important

1214
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:15,060
that, you know, otherwise we don't have a healthy flow that hurts our, our, our wrath industry and everything

1215
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:20,100
like that. So it's a, it's a big tie to not only just the environment, but the economy here.

1216
01:51:20,780 --> 01:51:25,860
So just kind of wanted to share a little bit about the program, the importance.

1217
01:51:26,260 --> 01:51:34,020
Well, it's important we continue it and just working collaboratively with all this partners because there are a lot of moving parts.

1218
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:42,680
It's, it's just important that more mindful of it and also with the understanding that depending on what type of precipitation we have,

1219
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:48,500
really does impact the water in more ways than one, and that there is only so much control. We do

1220
01:51:48,500 --> 01:51:52,200
have because there are other partners with other water rights to that same area.

1221
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:59,320
Yeah, that was kind of a lot, but you know for those that have never heard about it, it's just

1222
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,500
kind of want to dig into it a little more than just and hates a great ingredient with scint.

1223
01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:08,760
I don't know if PT a pretty familiar with it, I think it's what else, there's anything you want to add.

1224
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,920
Dave, if you have any questions or any thoughts?

1225
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:20,240
I was lucky enough to be on the CTF for the fast force at BADHRA in the late 90s

1226
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,400
from the original pre-buff-lust being built.

1227
01:52:22,420 --> 01:52:27,120
It's cool that we were the advisor to the CPW for how that got built.

1228
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:37,680
It's been a, you know, wildly successful program from a bunch of water user groups

1229
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:46,320
should never work together. It's all, almost all of them. They're interested in direct

1230
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:53,400
content for each other. So, it's been great. I would like to continue it.

1231
01:52:55,280 --> 01:53:02,260
I'm new to this, but I conclude with Gina and BT's called Sling. It's a great program.

1232
01:53:02,260 --> 01:53:08,580
They can show us that naturally conflicting entities can work together when they choose to.

1233
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:11,140
And for the benefit of the public and the economy.

1234
01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:15,320
It's like something like $50 million comes into the economy here.

1235
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:17,500
It's a result of this effort.

1236
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:18,640
And so.

1237
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:21,400
Well, whether continue to support this.

1238
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:24,720
Probably wishful.

1239
01:53:24,860 --> 01:53:25,660
Thank you for the summer.

1240
01:53:25,660 --> 01:53:26,500
Yeah,

1241
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:33,120
that's a thing, you know, they did say today on the call, you know,

1242
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:34,660
like, recommendations that it's a wait and see.

1243
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,800
And so depending on where the, you know, that's kind of the top.

1244
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:43,580
And what they have will will kind of dictate what we'll flow through.

1245
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,600
We'll make one other, you know, actually I forgot some mention.

1246
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:51,660
Webflow was also one of the call this morning, and they will be moving forward with

1247
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:59,540
Well, I assume it's the dam, they say clear clear creek construction, so that will be updating the dam.

1248
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:05,680
And they need to lower the amount of water in the reservoir by July 1st.

1249
01:54:06,440 --> 01:54:09,920
It will keep close with us and let us know what their plan is.

1250
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:14,900
They did mention the opportunity to exchange water with twin turquoise lakes.

1251
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,900
But then there was also a question brought up.

1252
01:54:17,900 --> 01:54:22,980
that's fine, you know, the paper coloring, back in fourth, but what about water down the river,

1253
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,540
and there's still that we see dependable kind of moisture comes and more things will be at,

1254
01:54:29,220 --> 01:54:34,080
but I did make the request that they see close with us, so we know, because we made the mention that we

1255
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:41,100
do also have our RIC, so we'll talk about your next, and we'll that have any, you know, conflict

1256
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:46,020
of the water we have for paddle fest and so far on things like that. So we're all focused on it,

1257
01:54:46,020 --> 01:54:52,620
We all are where it's going to be an interesting year, but it's just an important program, and, again,

1258
01:54:53,180 --> 01:54:57,240
collaborative is the positive. So, anyhow, all right for the extra feedback.

1259
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:09,160
The work I'm clearly speaking is to prepare some of the catch there, so that the dam continues to hold it.

1260
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:19,380
And I think originally, they talked about expanding that down, because they were now a three-term

1261
01:55:19,380 --> 01:55:25,620
assistant standard right now. They kind of blocked that back a little bit, which is probably

1262
01:55:25,620 --> 01:55:26,020
good.

1263
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:34,560
It's a one thing that's come out as voluntary flow management of ground is a lot more

1264
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,760
communication between all these entities.

1265
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,500
And if there is an opportunity for they,

1266
01:55:39,700 --> 01:55:41,600
someone needs to move water,

1267
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,120
don't check in and see if there is an additional

1268
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,660
official piece to the river in that little place.

1269
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:52,480
They can't divide, but it is, it's a, it's a new thing.

1270
01:55:54,060 --> 01:55:56,240
And I would make the motion.

1271
01:55:58,020 --> 01:55:58,680
Uh,

1272
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:08,560
probably volunteer flow management program agreement, 2026 to 2031 second.

1273
01:56:08,660 --> 01:56:10,660
All right, first and second, all in favor.

1274
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,370
All right.

1275
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:13,780
Thank you very much.

1276
01:56:14,180 --> 01:56:14,360
All right.

1277
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:20,550
Up next, we have doesn't need the eight days in June under the County Recreational

1278
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:26,770
recreational in-channel diversion, the RICD, when water rates for the RICD shall be

1279
01:56:26,770 --> 01:56:33,750
1800 CFS and discuss and finalize the 30-day flow recommendations for the RICD files.

1280
01:56:34,210 --> 01:56:38,630
Well, there is enough Steven Tyler back in the side of the agenda.

1281
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:42,010
What we have today is...

1282
01:56:42,010 --> 01:56:43,310
We've got a lot more to go on.

1283
01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:45,110
Don't worry, Phil.

1284
01:56:45,110 --> 01:56:52,370
two letters that we will send to the division engineer under the recreational and channel

1285
01:56:52,370 --> 01:56:58,330
diversion. Now this is the program every year that we designate two periods. One is a 30-day

1286
01:56:58,330 --> 01:57:07,590
period between or at any time from the Friday before the last Monday in May to June 30th.

1287
01:57:08,410 --> 01:57:14,850
where flows will be limited to 1,400 CFS, and then there's an 8 day period in June, where

1288
01:57:14,850 --> 01:57:20,070
flows would be at 1,800 CFS. Now, for all the reasons that Commissioner Lucretzi mentioned

1289
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:26,970
earlier this still morning, it's going to be an interesting water in here. But every year, we send

1290
01:57:26,970 --> 01:57:33,410
by April 1st, a letter to the State of New Year's Office to set those. This year, what we have

1291
01:57:33,410 --> 01:57:40,170
try to do with proposed two different dates, the 30 day period we are proposing May 22nd which is indeed

1292
01:57:40,170 --> 01:57:47,110
the Friday before the last Monday and May through June 20th. That gives you that that covers the

1293
01:57:47,110 --> 01:57:55,030
front end of CKS paddle fest in B.V. Through June 20th which is technically speaking I think the

1294
01:57:56,610 --> 01:58:01,890
Saturday during Fibarke this year but we've also looked at that a day period of June to cover the

1295
01:58:01,890 --> 01:58:10,930
day before to the Tuesday after Fibarq. And so those dates would be June 16th to June 23rd.

1296
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:15,790
So ostensibly we'd have coverage for that period based on the recreational and channel

1297
01:58:15,790 --> 01:58:20,000
version. So we're asking the commissioners to approve those two day periods. I think that's

1298
01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:25,760
pretty historically in line with what we have done some days. We just take all of June

1299
01:58:26,210 --> 01:58:31,250
but I think we to the extent possible with light to cover panel fest in May and we can do that

1300
01:58:31,250 --> 01:58:33,070
based on the counter dates this year.

1301
01:58:36,010 --> 01:58:37,110
Where should stop?

1302
01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:40,450
The last similar water, and there we had.

1303
01:58:40,610 --> 01:58:44,430
That's what 2002 and the repeated 600 CFS and May.

1304
01:58:45,130 --> 01:58:49,150
So this is a very full, full, yeah, so soft.

1305
01:58:49,690 --> 01:58:51,530
Yeah, but we have to do.

1306
01:58:52,630 --> 01:58:55,030
Yeah, so we shall think in for the 1800s.

1307
01:58:56,110 --> 01:58:57,950
You know, hey, you know, no, no, no.

1308
01:58:57,950 --> 01:59:01,290
We can pull a 95 and it could start snowing here any day.

1309
01:59:01,490 --> 01:59:02,510
Stop and tell.

1310
01:59:02,510 --> 01:59:07,370
You know, June 10, and then we'll go ski off the top of Princeton all the way down to the Colorado trail.

1311
01:59:08,290 --> 01:59:10,250
And we sure car wasn't way above us.

1312
01:59:11,810 --> 01:59:14,070
I like your mind.

1313
01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:17,950
That's what we did in 2004.

1314
01:59:20,530 --> 01:59:21,910
It was an epic day.

1315
01:59:24,670 --> 01:59:25,930
Well, you wait.

1316
01:59:26,230 --> 01:59:27,090
Would you like a motion?

1317
01:59:27,310 --> 01:59:27,910
I would.

1318
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:34,950
Well, I would move that we generate the letter to design 88 days of June under the

1319
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:40,330
county recreational and general development program and water rights for the RECD should

1320
01:59:40,330 --> 01:59:47,650
be 1800 CFS and also finalize and also designate the 30 day period and formal recommendations

1321
01:59:47,650 --> 01:59:49,430
under the RECD also.

1322
01:59:49,970 --> 01:59:56,090
So I think it's 1200 and the 1800 respectively between the 8 day and 30 day.

1323
01:59:56,490 --> 01:59:59,970
Great, it's 1,400, but then in low-call years it can be 1200 and then.

1324
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:14,620
First and second, all in favor. All right. Okay. Great. Don't go anywhere. All right. Discuss, future,

1325
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:21,180
ink governance for G.V. Heritage Area Advisory Board. All right. Well, to quote, Detroit's Marshall

1326
02:00:21,180 --> 02:00:27,940
masters. Yes, who's back. Hey, it's me. Heritary advisory board has existed for a little

1327
02:00:27,940 --> 02:00:33,980
over 20 years. And was originally set up to help promote the economic cultural environmental

1328
02:00:33,980 --> 02:00:39,220
and aesthetic standing heritage of Chaky County. This is a board that has been operating for a

1329
02:00:39,220 --> 02:00:46,360
long time working and advising on sort of legacy projects. You know, you can see some of the

1330
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:51,220
groups of their labor and interests in the value of your schoolhouse or the Maxwell Park School.

1331
02:00:51,700 --> 02:00:56,740
And a lot of really neat and unique areas of the county that have been preserved and protected.

1332
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:58,340
They have also helped us.

1333
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:08,800
They've led the charge for getting a getting the scenic by way plan and designation and managing that for years.

1334
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:12,400
For a long time, this has been stewarded by Ghana.

1335
02:01:13,220 --> 02:01:19,780
And one of the things that we are considering doing at this juncture, recognizing the importance

1336
02:01:19,780 --> 02:01:24,480
of the issues that originally led to the creation of this board, but also now how there's,

1337
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:28,000
you know, one of the things that they're mostly doing is helping manage that see it by way,

1338
02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:32,980
which is kind of a a cyclical process, you know, every five, eight, ten years.

1339
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:38,760
And really want to give them more flexibility to work on some broader projects without necessarily

1340
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:43,660
being tied directly to the county, giving them the ability to maybe better do some fundraising

1341
02:01:43,660 --> 02:01:45,660
for other projects, that sort of thing.

1342
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:49,880
So we met with the Heter Jerry advisory board if they're meeting last week and we've met

1343
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:51,580
with Garner about this as well.

1344
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:56,600
And one of the plans, or one of the thoughts that we had was to transition this board, transition

1345
02:01:56,600 --> 02:02:03,540
this work to Garner as more of a historic preservation of her heritage committee housed in Garner.

1346
02:02:03,540 --> 02:02:15,680
It would still exist within under under the Garna umbrella as a committee there, but then, you know, and there would still be free to coordinate with the county coordinate with the planning and natural resources department.

1347
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,800
We're in potential projects to us for collaboration.

1348
02:02:19,940 --> 02:02:28,860
Part of that plan would be that Garna will continue to manage and help facilitate the city by way and would collaborate with the county through its next recertification period.

1349
02:02:28,860 --> 02:02:33,220
And then after that, the expectation is the county would assume full management for the

1350
02:02:33,220 --> 02:02:34,440
scenic biway plan.

1351
02:02:34,780 --> 02:02:36,740
That's something we've tied in with our land use code.

1352
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,640
We've got a cover of regulations that help support that.

1353
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:45,240
But I think the transitioning out of this being a formal county board and being a committee

1354
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:49,920
can be by Groninger gives them the cover of a 501C3 for fundraising purposes, donations,

1355
02:02:50,140 --> 02:02:51,120
solicitation, et cetera.

1356
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:55,720
It also gives them a little more flexibility on when they meet how they meet what types

1357
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:01,040
of projects they can't work on, what they're interplayed with other agencies would be.

1358
02:03:01,380 --> 02:03:06,940
And so one of the thoughts that we had is to transition this board out from being a normal

1359
02:03:06,940 --> 02:03:13,360
county convened board that every year, the commissioners have to do a call for representation,

1360
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:16,960
interviews, appoint folks, and we've got to manage all that.

1361
02:03:17,140 --> 02:03:20,460
There's something that can, and one of the things that I think has been frustrating for

1362
02:03:20,460 --> 02:03:24,800
The Heritage Area Advisory Board is routinely losing members

1363
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,700
to terming out or terming its and not being able

1364
02:03:27,700 --> 02:03:29,940
to keep some folks involved that have been involved

1365
02:03:29,940 --> 02:03:32,420
for a long time and had a lot of things to contribute.

1366
02:03:33,380 --> 02:03:35,140
So we think there's going to be a lot more flexibility

1367
02:03:35,140 --> 02:03:36,740
with this as a committee.

1368
02:03:37,500 --> 02:03:38,740
Garna has willingly stepped up and said,

1369
02:03:38,860 --> 02:03:40,520
hey, we're happy to host that.

1370
02:03:41,020 --> 02:03:43,140
We would still have a county liaison to that,

1371
02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:45,260
so there's still some direct relationship there.

1372
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:49,080
We floated this to the Heritage Advisory Board,

1373
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,840
very, very, very, very, very well supportive of the concept, the one thing that they wanted

1374
02:03:55,840 --> 02:04:01,240
to make sure that we did, and I think we can commit to, is to give it a try, you know, and

1375
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:06,820
see if it works. And so what we would do is set this up for a review, probably the end issue,

1376
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:10,280
you know, within a year, make sure it's working, make sure it's working as intended, and

1377
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:14,500
nothing's falling through the cracks, and that they're able to actually move some of the stuff

1378
02:04:14,500 --> 02:04:18,980
forward, they want to move forward. But part of this discussion part of this transition

1379
02:04:18,980 --> 02:04:25,060
plan is why we don't have any, you know, we have not done a call for new members to

1380
02:04:25,060 --> 02:04:29,260
that board for this year, but it sounds like folks on the Heritage Area Advisory Board

1381
02:04:29,260 --> 02:04:33,400
are supportive of this, but want to make sure we have the ability to, hey, if we need to

1382
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:37,300
reconvene this down the road, we can do that. And so one of the things that we wanted to

1383
02:04:37,300 --> 02:04:42,960
bring to you was that proposal, it sounds like again that everybody involved has more or less

1384
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,380
and support of this direction.

1385
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:47,520
What we would do is build in a resolution

1386
02:04:48,900 --> 02:04:50,780
that effectively solidifies this,

1387
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,680
gets them set up with Garner as a committee,

1388
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,340
and then has us review this in a year to make sure

1389
02:04:55,340 --> 02:04:57,640
we don't need to kind of bring this back under us.

1390
02:04:57,660 --> 02:05:00,860
And we would really let them drive whether that needs to happen.

1391
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:04,200
Will it boards?

1392
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,580
I mean, people are on the board today.

1393
02:05:06,820 --> 02:05:08,640
I'll stay on the board for this next year

1394
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:09,820
for the trial period.

1395
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:10,900
That's my expectation.

1396
02:05:11,460 --> 02:05:13,220
I think they can bring some folks back on,

1397
02:05:13,220 --> 02:05:14,140
you know, again under a committee,

1398
02:05:14,140 --> 02:05:19,080
a little more flexible. They don't have a set limit in the set terms and all that, but I know

1399
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:24,240
the folks that we met with last week and I know Susie Kelly spoke to it this morning.

1400
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:28,860
My expectations, they all plan to stay involved in this work and I think one of the

1401
02:05:28,860 --> 02:05:32,740
conversations we had with Ghana was the ability to bring more folks into the fold

1402
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:38,920
as part of the separate across the country. I think this is something that is very important for us

1403
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:44,680
long-term, you know, we don't have a historic preservation board, we don't have a historic preservation

1404
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:50,580
entity here at a very board of service, somewhat like that, and I hope is a little more flexibility

1405
02:05:50,580 --> 02:05:55,000
for guided to them under the guidance of going on and we'll help them kind of grow and hopefully

1406
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:55,860
bring us more projects.

1407
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:07,300
It seems like that's almost a better place for this agreement where it's been

1408
02:06:21,780 --> 02:06:27,440
I think the general thoughts, what I would do is if everybody is, if the commissioners are in agreement,

1409
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,300
I believe this is the right direction for this.

1410
02:06:29,660 --> 02:06:31,980
We put together a resolution to bring it back to your next meeting.

1411
02:06:31,980 --> 02:06:35,500
free to formalize, it'll probably be on consent at that point unless there's more discussion you want

1412
02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:40,240
to have about it. But again, we floated this to these folks last week and so they, and I think

1413
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:45,420
everybody kind of said largely the same thing. In support of that, let's make sure, you know, let's

1414
02:06:45,420 --> 02:06:49,860
let's try it. I think they could also see the positives and then let's review it within a year and make

1415
02:06:49,860 --> 02:06:50,700
sure it is working.

1416
02:06:55,150 --> 02:06:59,790
Yeah, right. Yeah, same. I think this board's on board.

1417
02:07:07,410 --> 02:07:13,970
All right, well, in the words of American Idol Season 1 winner, Kelly Clarkson, here I am once again.

1418
02:07:13,970 --> 02:07:16,630
I can only imagine how it's going to be.

1419
02:07:19,770 --> 02:07:20,290
Yeah.

1420
02:07:22,230 --> 02:07:24,750
So a little bit different for this one.

1421
02:07:25,470 --> 02:07:28,250
Tab as it's known was formed originally.

1422
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:32,150
It's founding resolution was to help it set up what was then the

1423
02:07:32,150 --> 02:07:34,830
Chaky Shuttle, which then became not a valid transit.

1424
02:07:34,890 --> 02:07:36,870
That was the original goal of that board.

1425
02:07:37,530 --> 02:07:40,050
You've seen a number of different organizations that are kind of working in this

1426
02:07:40,850 --> 02:07:42,070
Soilada has their spot,

1427
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:49,860
their sort of parks, open space and trails that have been kind of crossover

1428
02:07:49,860 --> 02:07:50,680
with this somewhat.

1429
02:07:50,940 --> 02:07:55,760
The transportation advisory board has been something that I think still the real gap for the

1430
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:57,140
counties for a long time.

1431
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:58,820
It helps get the mountain valley out.

1432
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:04,080
Well, if you shut up and running, but I think what we have seen over the last few years, especially

1433
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:07,780
in the county is more of a, I wish you were still here because I'd give them a shout out.

1434
02:08:07,780 --> 02:08:12,160
But certainly more of a focus on transportation internally through the planning department.

1435
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:15,500
I think Gary Baker is our key guy there.

1436
02:08:15,620 --> 02:08:21,880
He's got a decades of experience in this and has really done a good job of helping us move

1437
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:23,760
some of these transportation issues forward.

1438
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:29,020
To my knowledge, transportation advisory board hasn't met in probably over a year now.

1439
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:34,060
There haven't really been that many issues that we've needed to bring to them and sometimes

1440
02:08:34,060 --> 02:08:36,000
they would come in kind of looking for projects.

1441
02:08:36,380 --> 02:08:39,920
But I think it's something that we're better able to manage internally.

1442
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:50,920
And so one of the thoughts that we had for this board instead of having this kind of legacy board sitting out there without a direction or without a rudder at least is to kind of put this one on hiatus formally.

1443
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:55,300
You know, I don't think you guys have appointed members to this in at least a year or not to.

1444
02:08:55,600 --> 02:09:04,700
And so it's kind of been sitting out there for a while, but I think what we would do is just formalize that and say, hey, we can more or less get rid of transportation advisory board.

1445
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:09,740
I think we always have the ability to bring that type of board or that type of committee back at

1446
02:09:09,740 --> 02:09:15,120
Hocket necessary if we're going to do a capital improvements plan in any kind of major transportation plan.

1447
02:09:15,260 --> 02:09:22,800
We might see the advice of those experts, but a lot of this is guided by the plans we're already working on through the

1448
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:30,260
St. Streets for all safety action plan coordination with our local municipalities with room bridge with C dot and I think we've we've really taken

1449
02:09:30,260 --> 02:09:34,000
that to hard as something that we need to have a really good grasp on internally

1450
02:09:34,820 --> 02:09:40,440
And so, you know, frankly, I don't think anybody's managing tab at this point, you know,

1451
02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:45,480
I know our major contact there has a lot of work to do with what is now mountain value

1452
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:45,900
transit.

1453
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:50,340
And I think part of what this is is giving them the ability to not have to divide their focus

1454
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:55,700
in attention and really focus on making sure that there are transit options for folks in the valley.

1455
02:09:56,320 --> 02:10:00,060
And so our proposal for the future of the transportation advisory board is to effectively

1456
02:10:00,060 --> 02:10:06,000
say we can disband that board we don't need to appoint folks to that go and forward but

1457
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,800
recognizing me that we can bring that back to if it weren't necessary.

1458
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:14,360
I'm going to board with that. Makes sense to me and it goes to Gary for everything he's doing.

1459
02:10:14,780 --> 02:10:16,860
Let me just take him out one under his wing.

1460
02:10:18,420 --> 02:10:25,960
Are there any other boards or committees and in your line of sight?

1461
02:10:26,980 --> 02:10:35,480
Just these, I think the rest of these, you know, we'll talk about common ground advisory committee here at a moment, but, you know, planning commission is struggling along as well.

1462
02:10:35,900 --> 02:10:46,780
But some of this is just, you know, we've also had trouble getting high numbers of applicants release because there's just so many different opportunities and folks aren't really sure where they want to put their hat in the ring.

1463
02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:49,680
I think this will just save us a lot of time and headache.

1464
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:59,160
And, you know, I think what we commit to do as part of this is making sure we're doing the right type of community engagement to make sure we understand what are the needs that are out there.

1465
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:07,780
You know, from the counties perspective, I think we're doing a good job of that, especially in coordination with our local municipalities and some of the folks that are working on this.

1466
02:11:07,780 --> 02:11:15,380
from a big fan of stopping doing stuff that isn't any longer effective needed or

1467
02:11:16,540 --> 02:11:21,060
make better use of resources that we do have in county for the focus on

1468
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:23,780
climate future priorities. So thank you to this.

1469
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:29,140
All right, you got me neither. Kelly.

1470
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:34,440
Hi, I do thank you. All right, all right, next discuss future

1471
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:38,880
and governments for coming around citizens advisory community.

1472
02:11:39,300 --> 02:11:43,400
Thank you. In the words of LL Cooljay, don't call it a comeback. I've been here for years.

1473
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:50,480
This one, the citizens advisory committee really is, as I mentioned earlier, kind of

1474
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:55,740
driven along quite well. I know it's good. What we have, though, is a couple of issues we want to

1475
02:11:55,740 --> 02:12:00,320
make sure we're bringing to you guys kind of for re-upping first and foremost on this one is

1476
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:07,420
We have had the Chaky County Community Foundation managing the grants portion of this for the last year.

1477
02:12:07,580 --> 02:12:14,320
I think they have been tremendously helpful and professional in helping us ensure that the grants program

1478
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:17,580
through the Common Ground Initiative is very well managed.

1479
02:12:18,020 --> 02:12:23,600
They obviously have significant experience managing grants programs and have been able to roll this into their portfolio.

1480
02:12:24,500 --> 02:12:26,900
Their contract is up to believe at the end of March.

1481
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:36,460
We will bring this back to you guys next month before that end, but we do want to recommend that we

1482
02:12:36,460 --> 02:12:37,840
re-up that contract for a year.

1483
02:12:37,980 --> 02:12:41,720
One of the things you want to talk about with them and something that I've been going back

1484
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:45,280
and forth with, that's he didn't bear with the community foundation on his exactly what the scope

1485
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:46,260
of that role is, right?

1486
02:12:46,380 --> 02:12:50,480
Because I think they were originally brought on to help us manage the grant program.

1487
02:12:50,780 --> 02:12:56,880
What they found themselves doing was waiting into policy, waiting into strategic direction, and

1488
02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:00,300
they said, hey, well, this really isn't what we were brought on board for.

1489
02:13:00,540 --> 02:13:04,160
And so one of the things they said was, hey, we're going to have to come back with a significantly

1490
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:12,500
increased contract to help, you know, really understand, you know, to encapsule the full scope

1491
02:13:12,500 --> 02:13:15,820
of work for this and what we said was, hey, we don't actually need you to do that.

1492
02:13:15,940 --> 02:13:21,640
That's what I think the county's here for, that's what the county staff and county commission,

1493
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:27,220
we can also have helped manage this initiative together. But really saying, hey, community

1494
02:13:27,220 --> 02:13:32,020
foundation, what we really want you guys to do is manage this robust grant program because

1495
02:13:32,020 --> 02:13:38,400
that's what they have been so extremely helpful at. So that's one thing you'll see there.

1496
02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:42,280
You know, as part of that work, one of the things that the Citizens Advisory Committee has

1497
02:13:43,060 --> 02:13:47,420
brought forward, there are a number of different policies next. The next item on the engine,

1498
02:13:47,420 --> 02:13:50,120
It is the Grand Award Agreement policy.

1499
02:13:50,660 --> 02:13:51,660
There are also some discussions

1500
02:13:51,660 --> 02:13:55,380
that have been having about accounting initiatives,

1501
02:13:55,540 --> 02:13:56,880
the things that go through accounting programs.

1502
02:13:57,100 --> 02:14:00,680
Really, what is their role and really needing

1503
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:01,960
to maybe take a look at that?

1504
02:14:02,020 --> 02:14:03,080
And that's where kind of some of the language

1505
02:14:03,080 --> 02:14:06,640
or this, the sort of governance of the committee comes in.

1506
02:14:07,300 --> 02:14:09,200
Who's responsibility is to make those policies

1507
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:12,560
where are those policies kind of fit in?

1508
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:13,880
And how well do we want to make sure

1509
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:15,500
that those are a lot of existing accounting policies?

1510
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:17,160
And again, I'll kind of get to that.

1511
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:25,360
this next item. But some of the things that we're seeing are there's a fairly, the establishing

1512
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:31,920
resolution for the CAC is fairly inflexible, right? It sets it exactly at seven members, so

1513
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:37,180
there's no range. It does not provide for alternates, you know, as we have done with planning

1514
02:14:37,180 --> 02:14:40,880
commission. I think one of the things we want to do is it's role that model into the CAC because

1515
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:46,220
that's been extremely helpful with planning commission, allowing folks to come on board, learn

1516
02:14:46,220 --> 02:14:49,940
be a part of the process and that we have some ready-made replacements.

1517
02:14:50,820 --> 02:14:54,720
Another thing, I think, that has been one of the issues we've seen with the Citizens

1518
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,500
Advisory Committee, especially with grant recommendations, so the language and the establishing resolution.

1519
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,160
Or, habits, anyone from being on that board, if they are part of an organization that is seeking funds from common ground fund.

1520
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:19,020
I don't know that that's not so that I've been followed to a T, we want to make sure that that's something that we are looking at as well, and I think we'd want to work with our legal counsel to make sure we understand a sufficient conflict of interest policy for that board as well.

1521
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:29,560
So realistically, I wanted to do this one of the least half discussion with you all about anything you were seeing with respect to this CAC before we get through the process of interviewing,

1522
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:35,300
and appointing new members, which, again, will get to later, but just kind of one of the

1523
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:39,300
also see if you guys had any thoughts and experiences with that that you want to look at

1524
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:43,280
at least in terms of how this thing is structured and what the role of most possibilities are.

1525
02:15:43,460 --> 02:15:49,560
The other thing I was thinking of is term limits as well. I think it's just something

1526
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:59,180
And something to consider, what a big believer in opportunity for folks to, you know, jump in and

1527
02:15:59,180 --> 02:16:06,120
share their voice and their expertise and, yeah, it's just, you know, something to consider.

1528
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:14,880
We all turn when, so what we do and I don't know if for any of the committees and maybe should be the same, at least having a break in between.

1529
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,760
So maybe it's two terms and then there's a pause period,

1530
02:16:20,020 --> 02:16:21,800
and then maybe they can really play again in the future.

1531
02:16:23,260 --> 02:16:25,960
But I hate to see things get indoctrinated in a way

1532
02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:30,800
that maybe then shifts into a space that loses

1533
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:33,020
the whole point of what it's there for.

1534
02:16:34,060 --> 02:16:38,420
So that would be one suggestion for governance to serve.

1535
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:40,640
I'm not a fan of term one.

1536
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:42,780
That's I think we have the power to tell someone

1537
02:16:42,780 --> 02:16:49,840
that they should play take a few days off, and I mean we are going to be a point done

1538
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:54,200
folks, so I think that's what they have to turn on and powerfully decide to do. I don't

1539
02:16:54,200 --> 02:17:00,660
know that we should go that in because I think it puts a false rooftop on an entity that

1540
02:17:00,660 --> 02:17:07,160
really requires some specialized expertise and a different experience that we might want to

1541
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:15,740
you for yourself and the kicking someone off kind of at an arbitrary seedling that we put

1542
02:17:15,740 --> 02:17:22,790
in to do something that we can already do, I'm not sure if I see anything.

1543
02:17:23,790 --> 02:17:26,290
Good afternoon.

1544
02:17:26,530 --> 02:17:26,730
Thank you.

1545
02:17:27,450 --> 02:17:27,670
Thanks.

1546
02:17:28,130 --> 02:17:29,370
Thank you.

1547
02:17:31,450 --> 02:17:33,230
And that's here.

1548
02:17:33,690 --> 02:17:34,610
Well, yeah.

1549
02:17:34,770 --> 02:17:36,310
I would agree with you.

1550
02:17:36,830 --> 02:17:38,590
We should look at each of these boards.

1551
02:17:38,590 --> 02:17:44,710
communities in terms of the work they do and what the responsibility is, and just the governance

1552
02:17:44,710 --> 02:17:47,350
process accordingly. So I

1553
02:17:49,780 --> 02:17:55,060
think I feel some way the P.T. is about to be there. The experience

1554
02:17:55,060 --> 02:18:01,920
and expertise required, and we also have the capability to send them as we have in the past, you're

1555
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:08,960
not working out here, so we would do something different. I do think the alternates and the folks

1556
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:18,380
related, the seeking funds requirement are related. If we have alternates on the board, it's

1557
02:18:18,380 --> 02:18:25,960
much easier for folks that might have a conflict to reach themselves. And I think that should

1558
02:18:25,960 --> 02:18:33,540
be a more small community, if you have any relationship to that, you can't serve that, especially

1559
02:18:33,540 --> 02:18:39,960
If we're asking our ag folks, which even smaller community,

1560
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:44,860
participate in this, I think it's again, I'm not going to share this.

1561
02:18:44,980 --> 02:18:46,900
That isn't easy, I think.

1562
02:18:47,580 --> 02:18:55,560
A robust conflict and repusal policy isn't better to

1563
02:18:55,560 --> 02:19:00,060
with competent alternatives to step in when that is needed.

1564
02:19:05,830 --> 02:19:11,370
Wonderful, like the other ones, we will likely bring a resolution, a resolution to you to

1565
02:19:11,370 --> 02:19:16,210
kind of look at on the next meeting and see kind of where that goes, but kind of understand

1566
02:19:16,210 --> 02:19:18,130
where we want to go from there. Thank you.

1567
02:19:19,250 --> 02:19:34,870
Quick, quick, quick, quick. With the media foundation, kind of doing that oversight, agenda, and running

1568
02:19:34,870 --> 02:19:43,250
mistakes. This, I think just for clarity, for everybody, monitor standing as a common ground

1569
02:19:43,250 --> 02:19:49,070
board within the rot a lot more like the planning commission were staffs putting together the agenda

1570
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:53,590
And providing the materials.

1571
02:19:53,970 --> 02:20:01,890
Yes, that's correct, and actually one of the things that the community foundation will hopefully not be doing under their next contract is setting that agenda.

1572
02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:08,670
We think that's, you know, that's something that we have capacity for the county has invested in a position to help us manage this internally.

1573
02:20:08,890 --> 02:20:15,150
And so that's the person that will help and really be still taking the meeting setting the agenda, getting, you know, gathering the agenda items and all of that.

1574
02:20:15,150 --> 02:20:20,650
the community foundation really can focus their support on the grant management, the actual sort

1575
02:20:20,650 --> 02:20:26,370
of application process, finally, you know, finalizing reports, bringing reports back, all

1576
02:20:26,370 --> 02:20:28,630
this will be a close collaboration with county staff.

1577
02:20:30,090 --> 02:20:39,350
So, what would be the process then for four members that have an agenda item?

1578
02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:43,990
Did it do that would be to review that with county staff, bring that to us and say, hey, what

1579
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:45,590
So we think about getting this on the agenda.

1580
02:20:46,090 --> 02:20:47,390
We do the same thing with plan commission.

1581
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:50,090
We have historically done that with other coming boards.

1582
02:20:51,690 --> 02:20:54,130
And I think we, again, treat them very, very similar.

1583
02:20:57,500 --> 02:20:57,580
Yep.

1584
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:58,500
That's good.

1585
02:21:00,790 --> 02:21:01,150
Great.

1586
02:21:02,650 --> 02:21:03,630
So you got what you need?

1587
02:21:04,050 --> 02:21:04,170
No.

1588
02:21:04,170 --> 02:21:04,510
Yes.

1589
02:21:04,930 --> 02:21:05,150
All right.

1590
02:21:05,450 --> 02:21:05,510
Cool.

1591
02:21:06,590 --> 02:21:06,730
Yes.

1592
02:21:07,490 --> 02:21:08,610
We're at the top of our friends.

1593
02:21:08,690 --> 02:21:09,150
Come on.

1594
02:21:09,690 --> 02:21:10,210
All right.

1595
02:21:10,470 --> 02:21:15,750
The stress policy for amendments to comment ground grants or word agreements.

1596
02:21:17,930 --> 02:21:18,310
What do you got?

1597
02:21:18,310 --> 02:21:22,950
Well, in the words of English and Lake and Palmer, welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.

1598
02:21:23,650 --> 02:21:25,390
It is still me. I'm still here.

1599
02:21:26,210 --> 02:21:32,910
This is a policy that the common ground citizens advisory committee brought forward a few months back regarding.

1600
02:21:34,130 --> 02:21:39,010
I'm sorry, this is in relation to a policy that the CAC put forward about grant amendments.

1601
02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:43,230
You know, I think you guys remember over the last year,

1602
02:21:43,230 --> 02:21:48,050
almost every month, seemingly has had an amendment request for a common ground grant.

1603
02:21:48,310 --> 02:21:51,290
Some of them are no cost extensions, some of them are very low cost extensions,

1604
02:21:51,470 --> 02:21:57,670
some of them are specific line items. One of the things that we wanted to bring forward

1605
02:21:57,670 --> 02:22:03,690
before moving forward within a policy there is kind of a discussion and a consideration around

1606
02:22:03,690 --> 02:22:09,010
how to, you know, what what is the board want to see with respect to amendments for these

1607
02:22:09,730 --> 02:22:13,670
for grants or for these programs anything funded from comment ground. As

1608
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:17,970
aware, the board provides the board kind of commissioners provides the final decision

1609
02:22:17,970 --> 02:22:22,330
on any expenditures under the fund and so anything that goes out any of those

1610
02:22:22,330 --> 02:22:27,970
granted minutes or anything like that has historically come back to you. One of the

1611
02:22:27,970 --> 02:22:32,790
things that we have looked at with this is, you know, is there a dollar amount? Is there

1612
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:38,230
a percentage, you know, up or down? Is there an extension period that you would want

1613
02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:44,390
to be processed administratively and not have to come back to meeting and sort of wait for that.

1614
02:22:44,970 --> 02:22:49,910
Within a certain threshold, or do you still want to see all this stuff as it comes out?

1615
02:22:50,390 --> 02:22:54,050
I think the proposal that was originally put forward by the CAC,

1616
02:22:55,590 --> 02:23:03,690
has a couple gaps in it and talks about 20% and under would be administrative and 21% and over would be public meeting.

1617
02:23:03,690 --> 02:23:06,270
if it's 20 and a half percent, we don't know.

1618
02:23:06,450 --> 02:23:08,430
So we've got to, we have some things that we have to iron out there

1619
02:23:08,430 --> 02:23:09,610
in terms of specificity.

1620
02:23:10,410 --> 02:23:12,070
But one of the really greatness by you first,

1621
02:23:12,090 --> 02:23:15,250
because the other thing that we have talked about

1622
02:23:15,250 --> 02:23:16,990
with respect to this is that the county does already

1623
02:23:16,990 --> 02:23:18,350
have a contract in the process.

1624
02:23:18,590 --> 02:23:22,230
And if we were just to use the same amendment policy

1625
02:23:22,230 --> 02:23:25,670
that we already have, is that that's efficient,

1626
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:27,550
but given the nature of some of these,

1627
02:23:28,010 --> 02:23:29,190
we again wanted to have that discussion.

1628
02:23:30,170 --> 02:23:32,290
I think a lot of the ones that we saw this year

1629
02:23:33,990 --> 02:23:42,170
We've seen the last few years or here's a grant a war, here's a grant request, here's the award if it doesn't match or something is now more expensive than it used to be.

1630
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:47,450
We've got to bring that back to the board because somebody says hey I'm actually not going to do this piece of it is that okay.

1631
02:23:48,450 --> 02:23:50,990
So really one of the try to at least.

1632
02:23:51,970 --> 02:23:58,430
Think through some of the options in terms of what may be administratively approved through staff the community foundation.

1633
02:23:58,430 --> 02:24:05,030
what needs to come to the Board of County Commissioners, or if it's as simple as hey, we're going to just see everything.

1634
02:24:07,150 --> 02:24:25,430
I mean, I guess the one thing always comes to mind here is understand things change, but also one of my concerns or I guess the thing that stands out the most is something change enough that it no longer reflects what the award was originally the proposal or flex what you know,

1635
02:24:25,430 --> 02:24:39,370
And so those things absolutely need to come back and in fact, I would just say, hey, if it's that changed the money should go back in for the competitive cycle versus have another

1636
02:24:40,650 --> 02:24:47,510
consideration of let's look through all the the rule break and go through the process again, I think to save everybody

1637
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:55,630
for time and energy and respecting the time and energy also of the CAC for that too, because they'd have to open that up and do that again.

1638
02:24:56,470 --> 02:25:03,770
But I do think there might be some space there that can staff handle the things that goes to the conversation of reasonable maybe.

1639
02:25:04,130 --> 02:25:15,530
You know, like, what makes sense that you guys can tackle then yet there's things that do need to bubble up, but I am more of the mindset of there is enough change that we don't really, you know, we just goes back for the competitive cycle for the next year.

1640
02:25:16,390 --> 02:25:23,270
to be used because they, you know, so thank you for changing it that much if that's what you're original for us always for.

1641
02:25:23,750 --> 02:25:33,210
Right, and we have seen a number of these grants kind of get floated for a number of years without any review or without any kind of understanding of what the issues are.

1642
02:25:33,290 --> 02:25:43,910
Now some of them are, you know, seasonal, right, and trying to say, hey, we're going to do some kind of firework that requires, you know, maybe if there's a burn band, for example, and I can't do something they would need to do up there.

1643
02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:46,890
you know, I can see how there might be grounds for an amendment or a one year amendment,

1644
02:25:46,950 --> 02:25:47,710
but it's something like that.

1645
02:25:48,370 --> 02:25:50,830
But right now we don't really have any trackers around this.

1646
02:25:51,010 --> 02:25:53,050
And so I think part of this is trying to work with the CAC to say,

1647
02:25:53,230 --> 02:26:01,570
hey, we all recognize the need to cut down on the individual grant amendment request,

1648
02:26:01,670 --> 02:26:05,570
and be able to kind of take some of these in nice whole cloth.

1649
02:26:06,270 --> 02:26:10,290
But also not wanting to just have everybody come back every year every time.

1650
02:26:10,290 --> 02:26:14,550
So, you know, I need, this is actually going to cost $1,000 less, going to go before the

1651
02:26:14,550 --> 02:26:16,070
County Board of Commission. That's what I think.

1652
02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:27,520
All right. I was thinking about this. I don't feel like, over the last three years, I've spent

1653
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:33,840
my campaign for a long time working on these things. We've seen a number of them, but they're

1654
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:40,860
generally pretty straightforward. And I don't mind seeing a lot of times, I think,

1655
02:26:40,860 --> 02:26:43,740
I could probably go on my consent agenda,

1656
02:26:44,500 --> 02:26:48,460
I'm not going to have to be talking about a metal work session or something like that.

1657
02:26:49,420 --> 02:26:51,300
But I don't mind seeing them.

1658
02:26:51,980 --> 02:27:00,410
I think one of the things that I think is going on is that cutting down on some of those

1659
02:27:00,410 --> 02:27:07,810
multi-year grants, and by doing that, that's going to be natural when you lower the number

1660
02:27:07,810 --> 02:27:09,310
of videos that we see.

1661
02:27:09,310 --> 02:27:25,210
So, you know, I don't know what that, um, what that metric, why do you have to apply for a, like, help me to see this, um, maybe it's

1662
02:27:27,610 --> 02:27:28,610
$10,000.

1663
02:27:29,050 --> 02:27:32,390
$1,000 was for this year's Euro.

1664
02:27:33,370 --> 02:27:39,390
And if they're plotting in 2019, I'm going to request or what that's going to happen.

1665
02:27:39,390 --> 02:27:44,710
Yeah, and I think if anything, we want to break it up percentage because oftentimes

1666
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:46,590
they do a mini grant cycle.

1667
02:27:47,590 --> 02:27:51,010
You know, I don't necessarily want to bring you guys in a minute for $20.

1668
02:27:52,310 --> 02:27:56,770
But at the same time, do want to make sure that you guys are seeing all this and so I think,

1669
02:27:56,970 --> 02:28:00,370
if the direction is, if the feeling is hey, we still want to see these, we can just say,

1670
02:28:00,370 --> 02:28:05,610
You know, we can do a better job of just making sure we get them by a certain date and trying to bring them to you to explain that.

1671
02:28:07,010 --> 02:28:13,850
And, you know, I think with our general meeting cadence and all that, it shouldn't really be more than a couple weeks before we.

1672
02:28:14,250 --> 02:28:16,310
Before we're able to get those to you.

1673
02:28:16,350 --> 02:28:18,470
We'll quote just with that.

1674
02:28:18,470 --> 02:28:21,570
If for any change, then a has to go back in front of the CAC, I'm sure.

1675
02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:26,290
Like that's I know that was some of the conversation this year was there would be these changes.

1676
02:28:26,290 --> 02:28:42,030
And then there was like, all right, we got to wait next meeting for their thoughts, and then we have, you know, after that, then there's a meeting for our thoughts, and then it seems it, it just was a lot of like, until you got to the final product of whether it's a proof or not, it was a lot of time.

1677
02:28:42,210 --> 02:28:56,170
And so that's the only thing I'm like, hey, is there a way to condense that is there a way to make that happen easier faster for both the applicant, the CAC and obviously, I said, our meeting, whether it's consent to general or not, whatever, but just want to keep that in mind of everybody's time.

1678
02:28:56,170 --> 02:29:02,130
in energy with how many change, but if they are mainly multi year, then maybe we'll cut down

1679
02:29:02,130 --> 02:29:07,650
won't be such a big deal, but just being conscious at their time in interest, too, is.

1680
02:29:07,730 --> 02:29:07,870
Right.

1681
02:29:07,950 --> 02:29:12,250
I think that's one of the other angles, kind of, of interplay here is, you know, what is the

1682
02:29:12,250 --> 02:29:15,590
board of kind of commissioners desire to see this, and if that's, hey, we want to see

1683
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:19,270
the amendments because we're the final say here great, and then if you want to empower the

1684
02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:24,350
CAC to say, hey, you know, if it's an x percent change on their side and they're like,

1685
02:29:24,350 --> 02:29:27,010
We're just comfortable with that going straight to the counter-conditioners because we did

1686
02:29:27,010 --> 02:29:33,630
to prove the expenditure to begin with, and if lower, then I think it's up to you guys to say,

1687
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:36,590
hey, does this still need the actual intent of the grant award?

1688
02:29:37,690 --> 02:29:37,790
Okay.

1689
02:29:38,570 --> 02:29:40,210
Yeah, I think we just see after.

1690
02:29:48,310 --> 02:29:55,650
If there's, oh, yeah, any way to bundle any of this, so with the traffic to the timing issue,

1691
02:29:56,310 --> 02:29:59,970
Well, you know, question comes up, then we, you know, wait for the next.

1692
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:16,140
So the meeting, then we wait for the next BOCC meeting, and also the next three months before the $20 decision gets made, being put in the air, but there's a way to bundle the sum off so that they can come through that way, but I would like to see them.

1693
02:30:16,900 --> 02:30:40,140
So I mean, I think that's probably where we're headed to CAC setting some fairly, or having, and we can work with the community foundation and the community, or the citizen advisory committee on this, but setting some lower thresholds for the CAC and then saying, hey, you know, when they're just like, hey, we don't, we don't need to bring this before us, you know, they're, they're once and much meeting, it becomes much easier, much quicker to get it before this board.

1694
02:30:47,720 --> 02:30:48,780
Dying. Okay.

1695
02:30:48,780 --> 02:30:50,900
I'm just a patient with the next time.

1696
02:30:50,900 --> 02:30:51,120
Ready?

1697
02:30:51,420 --> 02:30:53,060
We've got two more.

1698
02:30:53,400 --> 02:30:54,460
So up next.

1699
02:30:55,420 --> 02:30:57,760
Consider a long range shaping county common ground.

1700
02:30:58,120 --> 02:31:00,640
This is an advisory committee strategy.

1701
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:01,880
What do you know?

1702
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:05,020
This one is, well, I guess I should quote,

1703
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:06,740
Daphne here and say, one more time.

1704
02:31:07,460 --> 02:31:09,040
That's all we have for this one.

1705
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:16,540
So this is more, this is related to the long range sort of strategic planning efforts

1706
02:31:16,540 --> 02:31:22,920
around the Citizens Advisory Committee and really more of the common ground initiative funding

1707
02:31:23,580 --> 02:31:26,060
how much to spend, how much to save and how to do that.

1708
02:31:26,260 --> 02:31:31,460
And so to effectuate this, I've got a presentation for you all, that hopefully you will

1709
02:31:31,460 --> 02:31:35,500
be able to see, that's

1710
02:31:53,160 --> 02:31:55,780
not the way that I want to share it, what I'd like to do is maintain

1711
02:31:55,780 --> 02:31:56,580
my presenter mode.

1712
02:31:57,220 --> 02:31:59,180
So bear with me if you don't mind,

1713
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:03,240
I'll see what we can get to.

1714
02:32:05,580 --> 02:32:07,720
That's not the button.

1715
02:32:23,790 --> 02:32:23,810
Right.

1716
02:32:24,070 --> 02:32:24,570
This is the chief.

1717
02:32:24,650 --> 02:32:25,690
You comment down further ahead.

1718
02:32:25,930 --> 02:32:26,110
Question.

1719
02:32:26,750 --> 02:32:30,090
I'm talking about kind of the next five years 26 to 20 30.

1720
02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:33,810
This is similar to a presentation that was made to the Citizens Advisory Committee.

1721
02:32:34,570 --> 02:32:38,670
I believe in December and then some discussions followed that.

1722
02:32:39,310 --> 02:32:41,310
To break back to you today.

1723
02:32:42,990 --> 02:32:44,290
I'm still going to try to get these.

1724
02:32:44,370 --> 02:32:45,610
Sometimes off for me.

1725
02:32:53,860 --> 02:32:56,800
open your power point and then we'll

1726
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:00,300
get there.

1727
02:33:00,460 --> 02:33:02,320
This is my first time ever using Zoom,

1728
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:03,800
so I appreciate to you.

1729
02:33:05,340 --> 02:33:06,780
Oh, I want to kick me out.

1730
02:33:07,900 --> 02:33:09,140
Oh, I can tell.

1731
02:33:09,580 --> 02:33:10,380
Yeah, I

1732
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:17,700
mean, it's perfect for your one more time.

1733
02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:19,820
I got all the way back, I got all the way back.

1734
02:33:19,820 --> 02:33:21,560
Yeah, we're sleeping all the way back.

1735
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:23,960
No, I can come in down like in good hopes,

1736
02:33:24,060 --> 02:33:25,800
so it's not like you'll have any problems

1737
02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:27,220
getting back to Salaida.

1738
02:33:27,640 --> 02:33:29,200
Unfortunately, fortunately, yeah.

1739
02:33:30,060 --> 02:33:32,520
or back to you.

1740
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:32,960
I'm going to be a person.

1741
02:33:33,580 --> 02:33:36,340
Oh, you have some really deep in on the cross.

1742
02:33:36,840 --> 02:33:38,220
You have that.

1743
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:39,760
Oh, that's worse somehow.

1744
02:33:40,260 --> 02:33:40,460
Not you.

1745
02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:41,080
This.

1746
02:33:46,520 --> 02:33:47,320
There you go.

1747
02:33:47,460 --> 02:33:48,780
Repeat a snowboard there.

1748
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:51,660
That's the screen you wanted.

1749
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:52,620
I mean, it's not.

1750
02:33:52,700 --> 02:33:54,260
I've got some notes that I want to read from.

1751
02:33:55,080 --> 02:33:59,040
So, um, you know, I tried to do this the professional way and include it in my PowerPoint presentation.

1752
02:33:59,640 --> 02:34:02,700
And I'm just, I can work with Microsoft Word and that's about it.

1753
02:34:04,300 --> 02:34:06,720
Would you say, yeah, what's the point now?

1754
02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:08,600
You hear the screening?

1755
02:34:09,220 --> 02:34:09,260
Yep.

1756
02:34:09,520 --> 02:34:10,180
You're analyzing that.

1757
02:34:10,340 --> 02:34:11,020
You're displayed.

1758
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:12,700
You open your car window.

1759
02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:14,160
A second instance.

1760
02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:16,500
And then you're able to navigate that.

1761
02:34:16,700 --> 02:34:17,300
And sure, it's right.

1762
02:34:18,540 --> 02:34:19,760
This is why I know.

1763
02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:20,580
Yeah, really.

1764
02:34:22,340 --> 02:34:25,220
Doesn't want to be my partly cloudy, but mostly blue.

1765
02:34:25,580 --> 02:34:26,380
A little longer right now.

1766
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:27,280
That's why.

1767
02:34:27,620 --> 02:34:31,830
Now that it was like the same position.

1768
02:34:32,470 --> 02:34:33,450
Kind of how it counts.

1769
02:34:35,650 --> 02:34:37,610
We'll figure it out.

1770
02:34:38,590 --> 02:34:41,170
So, quick background in a piece of historical context of some of this, right?

1771
02:34:41,270 --> 02:34:44,110
The ballot measure was approved by Safety County voters in 2018.

1772
02:34:44,750 --> 02:34:47,930
That ballot measure levied a quarter percent or a point two-five percent,

1773
02:34:48,030 --> 02:34:49,370
countywide sales tax.

1774
02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:53,130
The establishing resolution in that ballot measure provided that that

1775
02:34:53,130 --> 02:34:56,250
sales tax would go to effectively three buckets,

1776
02:34:56,870 --> 02:34:58,110
strengthening force, health,

1777
02:34:58,110 --> 02:35:05,630
and supporting working ranges and farms and rural landscapes, and managing the impacts of growth.

1778
02:35:07,190 --> 02:35:11,650
Part of that initiative created the Citizens Advisory Committee.

1779
02:35:12,310 --> 02:35:15,950
And as we've discussed a few times already earlier today, the Citizens Advisory Committee,

1780
02:35:16,130 --> 02:35:20,950
their role is to make recommendations on expenditures from the fund.

1781
02:35:21,310 --> 02:35:25,730
Right, so they are recommending buying any time money from that fund is being spent.

1782
02:35:25,730 --> 02:35:30,570
that is their role, that's what they're convened to do, and that's what was established by that balance.

1783
02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:37,770
One of the things that note here, since 2019, which if you counted common ground has taken in approximately $11 million,

1784
02:35:38,850 --> 02:35:46,330
and then through 2025, $12 million has been either spent or committed or future funding through competitive grants,

1785
02:35:46,690 --> 02:35:48,690
multi-year partnerships, and initiatives.

1786
02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:49,290
As

1787
02:35:54,630 --> 02:36:09,070
you can tell, sort of with a simple accounting measure here, that's maybe not the best way to manage this fund long term, given we tend to commit more than we have spent over the years out of that program.

1788
02:36:10,090 --> 02:36:10,090
So,

1789
02:36:14,430 --> 02:36:27,230
one of the, I think one of the real key elements of this program over the last six years, and the way that it has been managed is that we have been able to address really quickly,

1790
02:36:27,230 --> 02:36:32,110
some of the most important issues we had, right? Some of those, the low-hanging fruit that

1791
02:36:32,110 --> 02:36:37,770
we had as part of this initiative. You know, we've done a lot of work in the Forest Health

1792
02:36:37,770 --> 02:36:43,330
Arena mitigating wildfires. We have done a lot of work on the wreck side. We've gotten a

1793
02:36:43,330 --> 02:36:48,430
lot of money out to them. We've been able to help the ag folks with a number of different projects

1794
02:36:48,430 --> 02:36:54,470
as well, but all of this money to date, at least until last year, was spent through a competitive

1795
02:36:54,470 --> 02:36:58,850
grant process. That competitive grant process was something that the county created. It was not

1796
02:36:58,850 --> 02:37:03,650
something that was identified as part of the ballot measure and it was not something that

1797
02:37:03,650 --> 02:37:08,890
is, you know, the only way to sort of spend these funds. But I feel like I think the history

1798
02:37:08,890 --> 02:37:13,850
of this is that it has really helped the county to address these things right off the back.

1799
02:37:14,530 --> 02:37:20,490
Some of the challenges that we have seen with respect to this fund is that, again, as I mentioned,

1800
02:37:20,490 --> 02:37:25,050
It has been over appropriate, you know, while we've been able to do a lot of really good projects.

1801
02:37:25,590 --> 02:37:30,830
We don't have the ability, for example, to utilize this fund for any competitive loans.

1802
02:37:30,850 --> 02:37:37,630
You know, some of these zero interest loans from conservation, the conservation fund, but from GoCo, or CPW, some of these other funders.

1803
02:37:38,290 --> 02:37:40,530
Because there's no way to say, hey, we can pay this back.

1804
02:37:41,330 --> 02:37:44,870
We're also, you know, with this broad slate of multi-year commitments.

1805
02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:52,330
We are really banking on sales tax to continue to grow to be able to continue funding this program the same way.

1806
02:37:52,970 --> 02:37:58,030
Some management challenges, you know, again, not having robust conflict of interest policy.

1807
02:37:58,570 --> 02:38:06,250
Just making sure that we understand that money coming in and money going out needs to be as transparent and open a process as possible.

1808
02:38:06,250 --> 02:38:09,670
because this is a public fund.

1809
02:38:10,350 --> 02:38:13,710
This is, frankly, this is part of a public trust.

1810
02:38:13,890 --> 02:38:15,770
We and you are certainly elected.

1811
02:38:16,990 --> 02:38:19,090
And we are here to help manage that public trust.

1812
02:38:19,150 --> 02:38:23,230
And one of the things we want to make sure we are not doing is eroding that public trust.

1813
02:38:23,730 --> 02:38:25,630
One of the things that we are seeing,

1814
02:38:25,950 --> 02:38:29,090
you know, we have seen is the inability to support larger projects.

1815
02:38:29,790 --> 02:38:32,410
You know, all the stuff going out in competitive grant cycles,

1816
02:38:32,410 --> 02:38:39,150
typically have caps, caps, the ability to utilize these funds for some of those larger projects.

1817
02:38:40,730 --> 02:38:45,690
And then, traditionally, historically, we also had a lack of internal capacity to help manage

1818
02:38:45,690 --> 02:38:49,650
any, you know, a lot of this stuff was farmed out, it was contracted out, there was a lot of

1819
02:38:49,650 --> 02:38:54,390
overhead that was paid out of this thing to help manage this program writ large.

1820
02:38:55,530 --> 02:39:01,270
And you know, I think the next few years we will continue to see, I think increased ability to manage

1821
02:39:01,270 --> 02:39:06,530
that internal of. Again, with those challenges, it also brings opportunities. I think one of the

1822
02:39:06,530 --> 02:39:11,770
things that we're looking to do with a strategic plan over the next few years is to match

1823
02:39:11,770 --> 02:39:16,490
that strategic direction of our major funding partners. For example, Goke, their new strategic

1824
02:39:16,490 --> 02:39:23,750
plan adopted in 2025. Highlights that they're focused on broader larger landscape projects.

1825
02:39:24,350 --> 02:39:30,750
CPW and their Colorado's Outdoor Strategy Initiative. They are elevating larger projects.

1826
02:39:31,670 --> 02:39:38,670
that again are tied to kind of this landscape scale project, and I will note, you know,

1827
02:39:40,250 --> 02:39:44,290
GoCo's strategic point also calls up, but they will be elevating projects for funding

1828
02:39:44,290 --> 02:39:46,290
that align with Colorado's outdoor strategy.

1829
02:39:47,250 --> 02:39:50,590
So I think part of this evolution from the common ground perspective is to help match those

1830
02:39:50,590 --> 02:39:54,810
funders, because obviously bigger level projects higher, more funding from them requires

1831
02:39:54,810 --> 02:39:56,310
a little bit more match for us.

1832
02:39:57,150 --> 02:39:59,310
Again, it's the ability to support some larger projects.

1833
02:39:59,310 --> 02:40:13,410
We've got some examples of those from other places that I'll show you in a few minutes, but I think, you know, historically the common ground grants that have been going out have been roughly five figures have been kind of mid five figures on average.

1834
02:40:13,410 --> 02:40:22,550
And I think, you know, what it doesn't enable us to do is look at some of the broader projects that the higher dollar projects that are out there that can really make the lasting generational impact in this community.

1835
02:40:23,650 --> 02:40:26,750
And, frankly, I think one of the opportunities is just responsible for fiscal management.

1836
02:40:27,070 --> 02:40:29,410
As I mentioned, these are funds that are in a public trust.

1837
02:40:29,510 --> 02:40:35,010
They are public tax dollars, and they should be managed and stewarded both transparently,

1838
02:40:35,550 --> 02:40:38,790
and in a way that ensures that we're not committing so much to overhead.

1839
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:43,450
You know, there is a cap in that resolution about the amount of overhead, but we want to

1840
02:40:43,450 --> 02:40:44,670
make sure that everybody understands it.

1841
02:40:44,730 --> 02:40:47,830
Here's how you apply for a common ground initiative.

1842
02:40:47,830 --> 02:40:50,190
Here's how a common ground initiative or a program gets started.

1843
02:40:50,190 --> 02:40:55,190
And so we have the opportunity to kind of strengthen that as we go forward as well.

1844
02:40:56,330 --> 02:40:57,430
I mentioned some of these larger projects.

1845
02:40:57,510 --> 02:40:59,150
This is really what drove a lot of this.

1846
02:40:59,550 --> 02:41:03,470
And some of the examples that I will, that I'll point out from other places,

1847
02:41:04,110 --> 02:41:10,630
Gunnison County, a decade or so ago, used their land conservation fund,

1848
02:41:11,030 --> 02:41:13,430
which is a similar tax that they've got in Gunnison,

1849
02:41:13,430 --> 02:41:19,590
partnering with GoCo and Trust for Public Lands to purchase be 43-7-440, almost 44-hundred-acre

1850
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:22,410
Trans-Range and Gunis keep that in agricultural production.

1851
02:41:22,930 --> 02:41:25,130
I think a significant percentage of Gunis and counties

1852
02:41:25,130 --> 02:41:30,510
ag production came from that ranch and they were able to acquire that

1853
02:41:30,510 --> 02:41:32,710
and make sure they could stay in agricultural production.

1854
02:41:33,530 --> 02:41:36,790
More recently has a number of items that have been underpicked in county.

1855
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:43,330
has boosted their, they have paid a little over $6 million for $71 acre feet of water

1856
02:41:43,330 --> 02:41:45,750
to boost stream flows in the warning fort.

1857
02:41:45,930 --> 02:41:51,190
As we talked about this morning, ensuring water in the river in this community is vital

1858
02:41:51,190 --> 02:41:51,830
to its livelihood.

1859
02:41:52,110 --> 02:41:56,810
If I remember the statistic correctly, something like 49% of respondents to the original

1860
02:41:56,810 --> 02:42:02,170
common drought survey mentioned that outdoor recreation is vital to their business and

1861
02:42:03,330 --> 02:42:05,570
their livelihood here at the county.

1862
02:42:06,830 --> 02:42:08,830
Picking County was able to use a,

1863
02:42:08,830 --> 02:42:11,250
they've got a healthy river fund to fund 1% tax for that,

1864
02:42:11,450 --> 02:42:14,270
but they also recently purchased that 658 or snow mass

1865
02:42:14,270 --> 02:42:17,910
falls ranch in partnership with GoCode Trust Republic

1866
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:22,750
lands with a similar sales tax that they have to ours.

1867
02:42:23,630 --> 02:42:26,670
A couple of opportunities that you've seen more recently

1868
02:42:26,670 --> 02:42:29,850
in a state land board, just purchased or is finalized

1869
02:42:29,850 --> 02:42:34,150
the purchase of Lake Fort Branch in the Lake County, you know, that's more than just water

1870
02:42:34,150 --> 02:42:38,410
rights, it's more than just public access and recreation, you know, it's part of an entire

1871
02:42:38,410 --> 02:42:44,190
kind of ecosystem up there, and then gosh going back, well, they're going forward. But going back

1872
02:42:44,190 --> 02:42:48,650
all those 30 years now, Douglas County, you know, if you've ever driven I-25 between Casa Rock

1873
02:42:48,650 --> 02:42:53,310
and Colorado Springs, so much of that land in the middle there was protected through their green,

1874
02:42:53,350 --> 02:42:57,850
greenland ranch acquisition funded through a similar tax measure. So all of these are obviously

1875
02:42:57,850 --> 02:43:02,250
other places, and I will note very clearly one of the frames we always hear is we are not

1876
02:43:02,250 --> 02:43:06,890
any of these other places, but you know what I wanted to do is at least provide you examples

1877
02:43:06,890 --> 02:43:11,430
of what other places are doing with similar funds when we talk about larger projects and what could

1878
02:43:11,430 --> 02:43:16,690
happen here. You know, and these are things that continue to get brought up and it's really one of

1879
02:43:16,690 --> 02:43:19,010
those ideas when I go back to that concept of missed opportunities.

1880
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:22,470
You know, you don't start

1881
02:43:22,470 --> 02:43:27,810
stating for a house once you've identified the house you want to buy, you know, it doesn't

1882
02:43:27,810 --> 02:43:31,450
really work that way. You want to make sure you've got some funds in the bank to support

1883
02:43:31,450 --> 02:43:36,970
this type of thing while, you know, to really take advantage of an opportunity when it comes

1884
02:43:36,970 --> 02:43:43,430
bail. So as part of that, what we put together was some five-year goals for this program.

1885
02:43:44,570 --> 02:43:49,530
What we want to do is grow the unallocated, common ground fund balance to $3 million by the

1886
02:43:49,530 --> 02:43:53,730
of 2027 and $6 million by the end of 2030.

1887
02:43:54,470 --> 02:43:58,450
Now, I don't specifically mean the unaccount unallocated bucket that represents 45 percent

1888
02:43:58,450 --> 02:43:59,150
of what we bring in.

1889
02:43:59,150 --> 02:44:01,210
What I just mean is not committed, right?

1890
02:44:01,210 --> 02:44:04,830
Because as I mentioned earlier, we are about a million dollars over-appropriated with the

1891
02:44:04,830 --> 02:44:06,310
fund through multi-ure commitments.

1892
02:44:06,610 --> 02:44:10,630
This is effectively kind of putting some money in savings to be able to say, hey, we've got

1893
02:44:10,630 --> 02:44:15,110
some funds to bring to the table for some larger projects.

1894
02:44:16,690 --> 02:44:19,490
What we want to do is provide sufficient funding for county initiatives.

1895
02:44:20,410 --> 02:44:24,010
You know, some of the things that we've been able to stand up through this program,

1896
02:44:24,250 --> 02:44:27,750
that are just, just move it along themselves today.

1897
02:44:27,970 --> 02:44:29,830
You know, the references and recommendations for them.

1898
02:44:30,170 --> 02:44:32,830
That every year for a while came through a competitive grant process.

1899
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:36,410
That's been a successful program that we were effectively able to transition to

1900
02:44:36,410 --> 02:44:39,110
into a county program or initiative as we call it.

1901
02:44:39,970 --> 02:44:40,930
That's just being managed.

1902
02:44:40,930 --> 02:44:46,470
Now, again, you guys have allocated a lot of context this year, but traditionally managed through the common ground process.

1903
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:55,510
I think the best example more recently is the working land facilities initiative, and recognizing that we really want to amplify the voice of our working land and community.

1904
02:44:56,830 --> 02:44:59,550
Both common ground specific but also more broadly.

1905
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:28,160
And have invested funds out of this to help them do that. We also want to continue to support our existing long-term partnerships, right? We want to make sure we can still meet the commitments that we have made, even if they are multi-year. We certainly don't want to have to tell anybody, hey, I know you're coming in for your four or five of this project that you've staffed up for and put a lot of money towards, we just don't have it anymore. We don't want to do it. We want to be on our those existing commitments and build towards a $500,000 plus, you know, minimum $500,000 annual competitive grant process.

1906
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:34,280
I know that we got that number from the community foundation who kind of assessed this and the need and said hey, here's what we think we can do.

1907
02:45:34,960 --> 02:45:37,260
You know that really provides that community support.

1908
02:45:37,960 --> 02:45:42,540
While also understanding how much money is coming out for initiatives for programs for multi-year commitments etc.

1909
02:45:43,140 --> 02:45:51,100
So these are the five-year goals of the program. These are the things that we kind of try to set a strategic parameters a wrap.

1910
02:45:51,100 --> 02:46:01,160
Now, the initial proposal here was drafted very conservatively and there was some base model assumptions that we're into this.

1911
02:46:01,740 --> 02:46:06,720
We motioned at a $1.8 million annual revenue every year. That's from that sales tax.

1912
02:46:07,260 --> 02:46:10,760
That's been pretty standard over the last three to four years.

1913
02:46:12,320 --> 02:46:14,600
Though we have seen it increase every year since then.

1914
02:46:14,600 --> 02:46:16,720
Now, obviously, we don't know what this year will be.

1915
02:46:16,780 --> 02:46:20,040
We don't know what a dry winter and whatever's coming,

1916
02:46:20,060 --> 02:46:22,600
there's summer may happen, but we've projected this

1917
02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:27,260
with a fairly conservative annual sales tax, allowing.

1918
02:46:27,640 --> 02:46:31,560
And what that allows us to do is budget this sort of savings

1919
02:46:32,180 --> 02:46:34,940
and spending balance on a conservative number,

1920
02:46:35,140 --> 02:46:36,860
such that anything that comes in above that

1921
02:46:36,860 --> 02:46:39,420
can be put into that grant cycle, right?

1922
02:46:39,420 --> 02:46:41,600
So we say, hey, by the intervening year, we've got more

1923
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:43,620
than on point A to the bank, that's an additional.

1924
02:46:43,620 --> 02:46:47,380
whatever that delta is, can go right into supporting that grant cycle.

1925
02:46:48,680 --> 02:46:53,960
We originally based this model off of an end of your balance of 1.4 million at the end

1926
02:46:53,960 --> 02:46:54,680
of 25.

1927
02:46:55,920 --> 02:46:58,040
Again, this was conservative allowed for some flexibility.

1928
02:46:58,480 --> 02:47:04,540
We actually now know that the end of your costs are 1.4, or end of your figure is 1.45.

1929
02:47:05,300 --> 02:47:09,160
So there's about a digital 50 in there from December cash.

1930
02:47:09,600 --> 02:47:12,900
And one of the things that I want to make sure we're clear on because when I originally

1931
02:47:13,380 --> 02:47:19,860
We were looking at year to year sales tax, which rolls two months forward, but I think getting some guidance from our finance department.

1932
02:47:20,020 --> 02:47:25,060
We just say, do this on a cash basis, so you know at the end of year, which you haven't the end of year, get off the wait two months.

1933
02:47:27,220 --> 02:47:35,460
While again, I think for the first time in my life being wrong, that was hard for me, but I think it was the right approach.

1934
02:47:36,120 --> 02:47:40,120
I, you know, what we can do is say, hey, we know what we know what we know with the end of the year.

1935
02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:45,640
So 1.45 million is that number, so I'll show you an updated spreadsheet shortly.

1936
02:47:46,200 --> 02:47:47,720
Interested calculated 3%.

1937
02:47:47,720 --> 02:47:51,760
Usually we're a little bit higher than that, because this is, this is, you know,

1938
02:47:51,780 --> 02:47:54,800
these are invested in our normal county council to do it through interest.

1939
02:47:55,980 --> 02:47:59,460
Aggregation into that fund, though, based on how we're utilizing that,

1940
02:48:00,060 --> 02:48:03,920
lags by about a year to ensure that we actually capture the full year of interest, right?

1941
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:07,980
So if I say, hey, in the year, I've got $2 million in the bank, my next year's interest

1942
02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:08,920
is based on $2 million.

1943
02:48:09,040 --> 02:48:14,560
It's likely to exceed that, but we drafted this conservatively to make sure we really don't

1944
02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:17,200
want to have to cut back on anything necessarily.

1945
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:20,680
And then finally, the administrative costs increased 5% a year.

1946
02:48:20,880 --> 02:48:21,000
Right.

1947
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:22,520
There is still a cap on this.

1948
02:48:22,600 --> 02:48:26,320
The portion of this is still allocated for the grant, and then grant process of administration

1949
02:48:26,320 --> 02:48:27,840
that will still be through the community foundation.

1950
02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:32,360
And there's a portion for internal staff as well for the facilitation of some of these

1951
02:48:32,360 --> 02:48:40,200
and some of these at a program, but we did kind of, we just, we calculated an annual, and

1952
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:43,720
annual, I guess, inflation of the administrative costs and five percent, because that tends

1953
02:48:43,720 --> 02:48:47,440
to be what the, what kind of contracts go by, and then that's what the Canadian Foundation

1954
02:48:47,440 --> 02:48:48,280
is expecting as well.

1955
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:56,460
So there's some base model assumptions in this sort of five-year funding model that we just wanted

1956
02:48:56,460 --> 02:48:57,720
to make sure we're very conservative.

1957
02:48:59,220 --> 02:49:12,160
So, this was the original proposal before we kind of made some adjustments to it and what you can see there is, as I mentioned earlier, the starting balance, the end of year 25, the starting balance for 26 was 1.4.

1958
02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:22,500
As I noted that, we'll go up and you'll see that reflected across the board here, we're reflecting a 1.8 million dollar sales tax, and so that's clearly conservative there.

1959
02:49:22,500 --> 02:49:26,740
You had, for 2026, you had $1.3 million in commitments already.

1960
02:49:27,020 --> 02:49:31,860
This was, again, a few months ago, and so that's when the county made the decision that

1961
02:49:31,860 --> 02:49:36,140
was not going to be a competitive grant cycle that was funded in 2026.

1962
02:49:36,420 --> 02:49:42,300
And I say, funded in 2026, because what we're really basing this off is when the funds go

1963
02:49:42,300 --> 02:49:42,980
out the door.

1964
02:49:44,040 --> 02:49:48,220
Now, we are, you know, as we shift this around to try to get money out at the beginning

1965
02:49:48,220 --> 02:49:52,460
of the year, rather than kind of in the middle or Q2, we will actually start at taking

1966
02:49:52,460 --> 02:49:56,520
applications for future grant cycles in the year before, but

1967
02:49:56,520 --> 02:50:02,520
rather than say like Q3 of 26 to Q2 of 27, we're doing it,

1968
02:50:02,660 --> 02:50:05,660
you know, the date here is based on the date the funds actually did

1969
02:50:05,660 --> 02:50:08,220
disperse, which I think we are planning for January to be

1970
02:50:08,220 --> 02:50:12,380
here going forward. So, in actuality, the 2027 grant cycle

1971
02:50:12,380 --> 02:50:20,260
will start in 26 with applications, but it won't be a

1972
02:50:20,260 --> 02:50:35,330
What we proposed again down here at this end of your target in a talix was the savings goals we've mentioned from the goals earlier 3 million by end of year 27 6 million by end of year 23 and what you could see here is we can eventually get there.

1973
02:50:36,190 --> 02:50:40,890
With, you know, again, you'll note there were $1.3 million in previous commitments for this year.

1974
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:46,370
Over 700,000 in commitments for 27, 4 and 28, 3, you know, and they go out here.

1975
02:50:46,550 --> 02:50:50,830
You've got a significant number of commitments that have already been made for future years.

1976
02:50:51,090 --> 02:50:53,850
Then, and cover some of those funds. So we were a bit behind those goals.

1977
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:57,330
And what that was going to really do was eat away at that competitive grant site.

1978
02:50:57,570 --> 02:51:01,330
Right, and say, okay, well, next year we might only be able to offer a mini grant site to level $100,000.

1979
02:51:01,330 --> 02:51:07,450
dollars, maybe build up to 228,429, and finally get to that 500,000 plus number in 2030.

1980
02:51:10,670 --> 02:51:16,970
Key to that, as you guys did just a month ago, was the lodging tax reallocation for

1981
02:51:16,970 --> 02:51:18,030
record ages and record dollars.

1982
02:51:18,650 --> 02:51:23,070
So these were programs that were originally part of the common ground commitments that the

1983
02:51:23,070 --> 02:51:29,850
board approved covering out of the lodging tax fund, approximately 225,000 from there.

1984
02:51:29,850 --> 02:51:34,430
And what this does is add those funds back into common ground by reducing those previous commitments.

1985
02:51:35,450 --> 02:51:41,170
Now, what I'll note is in these models, there's a similar ask that is likely to be made for 2027, if funding allows.

1986
02:51:41,410 --> 02:51:46,250
But again, one thing I should note is, part of all this is we're not asking you to approve a budget for five years, right?

1987
02:51:46,270 --> 02:51:49,210
This is all, us every year, part of our budget plan.

1988
02:51:49,310 --> 02:51:52,870
I just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of kind of what we were talking about,

1989
02:51:52,890 --> 02:51:55,410
that we'd be able to kind of re-up this every year just in concept.

1990
02:51:55,410 --> 02:52:00,830
So, a similar ask is likely to be made for record ranges record doctors next year, but I think

1991
02:52:00,830 --> 02:52:03,730
all that's going to come down to what funding is available and we'll know a lot more

1992
02:52:03,730 --> 02:52:08,650
by the end of this year what that looks like. So, this is our scenario model that we came

1993
02:52:08,650 --> 02:52:13,530
up with with that allocation. As you can see, what it did here was reduced those commitments by about

1994
02:52:13,530 --> 02:52:20,430
$200,000 and $26,27. Which then allowed us both to actually hit these proposed savings numbers.

1995
02:52:20,430 --> 02:52:25,970
is in the viewer balances, while also increasing each year, the amount of money that we were able

1996
02:52:25,970 --> 02:52:26,950
to put into that grant.

1997
02:52:27,150 --> 02:52:33,370
So we would start with 250,000 in 2027, which is really, I think, the minimum amount that

1998
02:52:33,370 --> 02:52:39,230
the community foundation says, like, if you're not going to do 250, don't do it, you know,

1999
02:52:39,270 --> 02:52:43,510
do a mini-grant or a adult do anything, but we said, okay, we can try to at least get to that,

2000
02:52:43,650 --> 02:52:48,630
above it up to 350, and we would hit that five number a year earlier in 29, and then 23rd.

2001
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:50,210
So this was another model now again.

2002
02:52:50,210 --> 02:52:55,610
This still was reflecting kind of November December projections rather than what we know now.

2003
02:52:56,250 --> 02:52:58,930
And I think Commissioner Lucreci to some of you to one of your points earlier.

2004
02:52:59,130 --> 02:53:05,250
One of the things that we are seeing is a lot of these grants that we might not have needed.

2005
02:53:06,290 --> 02:53:09,070
Or the may have been extended a lot or may have some funds coming back.

2006
02:53:09,230 --> 02:53:09,790
They were all used.

2007
02:53:09,910 --> 02:53:11,150
Can go back into that bucket as well.

2008
02:53:11,350 --> 02:53:14,130
So one of our thoughts was any additional thing here.

2009
02:53:14,190 --> 02:53:16,130
Any additional dollars and sales tax.

2010
02:53:16,130 --> 02:53:29,490
any increase from that 1.8. Any previous commitments that don't get spent, all of that would go back into that grass cycle to bolster that. Right. So, so none of that would be additional savings, none of that would be additional money that doesn't get spent.

2011
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:33,810
At least at that time, it would all be kind of good back out of that grand cycle.

2012
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:41,550
And you could, again, I think I probably could have put this up earlier. These are the two side by side. You can see kind of the difference differences there in the numbers.

2013
02:53:41,550 --> 02:53:46,250
And at least this is what was originally proposed to the Citizens Advisory Committee.

2014
02:53:47,450 --> 02:53:49,890
They came back with a counter-proposant.

2015
02:53:49,890 --> 02:53:55,110
It was drafted by some members of the Citizens Advisory Committee outside of the public meeting,

2016
02:53:55,150 --> 02:53:56,950
but it was presented to us at their last meeting.

2017
02:53:58,250 --> 02:54:04,050
And what the proposal was to effectively bump this savings model out,

2018
02:54:04,050 --> 02:54:07,090
bump this concept out for 10 years, rather than five.

2019
02:54:07,090 --> 02:54:14,170
So the idea would be to try to get to $6 million by the end of $20.35, rather than $20.

2020
02:54:14,390 --> 02:54:21,310
So they said, hey, in contrast, we'd rather keep a million dollars in new grants every year

2021
02:54:21,310 --> 02:54:25,650
and whatever is additional and would go into that unallocated fund until there's a project

2022
02:54:25,650 --> 02:54:26,090
to utilize.

2023
02:54:28,670 --> 02:54:31,230
There's two schools that thought here, but one of the things that I told the

2024
02:54:31,230 --> 02:54:34,990
to do when they proposed this was that I would run this backup to fly bold run this back

2025
02:54:34,990 --> 02:54:38,890
commissioners to get your feedback and see if this was something you wanted to do.

2026
02:54:39,170 --> 02:54:42,710
What we really heard from this, though, I think the message that we took from this is,

2027
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:45,970
again, we want to make sure that we could put as much money out of the communities we can.

2028
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:51,630
And I think one of the key points of this that seems to get Mr. Struder lost somewhere,

2029
02:54:51,730 --> 02:54:56,830
is that the idea of building up a savings balance in this fund to utilize for larger projects

2030
02:54:56,830 --> 02:55:01,670
is not diverting funds away from the common ground fund, right? That any money spent from

2031
02:55:01,670 --> 02:55:06,490
sales tax has to be spent under those three buckets, under the Common Ground Program, and

2032
02:55:06,490 --> 02:55:11,230
anything that would be spent would go to the Citizens Advisory Committee for a recommendation.

2033
02:55:11,990 --> 02:55:17,570
What we're saying is we can't keep papering over some of these issues that we continue to

2034
02:55:17,570 --> 02:55:21,710
throw at grant funds at every year to try to fix. What we really want to do is focus on

2035
02:55:21,710 --> 02:55:25,330
a balance between putting money back out of the community for some of the folks that are doing

2036
02:55:25,330 --> 02:55:25,870
this.

2037
02:55:25,870 --> 02:55:30,370
while also maintaining a portion of this for potential

2038
02:55:30,370 --> 02:55:33,270
larger projects and opportunities that may come up.

2039
02:55:33,670 --> 02:55:36,290
You know, again, I mentioned that we have taken in a little

2040
02:55:36,290 --> 02:55:40,490
over $11 million over the lifespan of this fund this far.

2041
02:55:40,770 --> 02:55:43,750
Over, approximately two thirds of that have gone to just four

2042
02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:44,210
organizations.

2043
02:55:45,610 --> 02:55:48,670
You know, so this isn't something that has been quite as broad

2044
02:55:48,670 --> 02:55:50,850
and that as we have wanted to cast with this.

2045
02:55:51,230 --> 02:55:53,650
You know, we've had four organizations that have taken two thirds

2046
02:55:53,650 --> 02:56:01,670
those funds through these grants. So the Canada proposal from the CAC was to expand this

2047
02:56:01,670 --> 02:56:08,050
out into the year 2035 for meeting that funding goal while still maintaining a grand cycle

2048
02:56:08,050 --> 02:56:13,890
of at least a million dollars. As I mentioned, our takeaway from this was that what we wanted to

2049
02:56:13,890 --> 02:56:18,050
do was put as much money into that grand cycle as we could. Now, what we were able to do with the new

2050
02:56:18,050 --> 02:56:22,070
numbers is kind of an updated scenario here if here's what it's tracking right now. And again,

2051
02:56:22,850 --> 02:56:26,990
We'll ultimately get some direction at least in feedback from the county commissioners on that kind of proposal.

2052
02:56:27,590 --> 02:56:33,730
But one of the least provides some updated numbers based on again, what we know in the year balance of starting dollars of 2006 is 1.45.

2053
02:56:35,190 --> 02:56:40,830
Again, we're still projecting 1.8 in sales tax here and the 3% interest earned from the prior year off of these balances.

2054
02:56:40,830 --> 02:56:48,290
with the lodging tax reallocation from the, for the, for the, the, the record ranges

2055
02:56:48,290 --> 02:56:53,910
and record hours program, as well as we've got at least $128,000 coming back from the

2056
02:56:53,910 --> 02:56:58,190
central Colorado Conservancy, because they have, as they transition from their five year

2057
02:56:58,190 --> 02:57:04,130
pilot program for the community conservation connection dollars to their 10 year program that

2058
02:57:04,130 --> 02:57:04,870
we've just approved.

2059
02:57:05,370 --> 02:57:08,270
They haven't yet spent not all the five year funds, so they don't need that money.

2060
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:16,310
They don't need a distribution of that in 2026, so we were able to further reduce those commitments and hit this

2061
02:57:16,310 --> 02:57:19,070
fund and go and put a lot more into this upcoming grant cycle.

2062
02:57:19,730 --> 02:57:24,650
So I'm confident in saying with this model that for the grant cycle that we're a funds of this person,

2063
02:57:24,770 --> 02:57:30,250
January of 2077, so the one that will start with applications in likely auditors of timber of this year,

2064
02:57:30,670 --> 02:57:36,890
we can have at least $450,000 in that grant cycle kind of as a baseline number and still hit.

2065
02:57:36,890 --> 02:57:42,410
frankly, at the end of next year we might be $500 short of this savings goal. I'm not really

2066
02:57:42,410 --> 02:57:47,430
worried about that. I think we can probably either find that somewhere or or let that one go.

2067
02:57:48,330 --> 02:57:54,070
To be able to put at least 450 back into that grant program, that would be again added to what is

2068
02:57:54,070 --> 02:58:02,430
then a you know $500,000 plus existing commitment, small to your grants, partnerships, that sort of thing

2069
02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:07,310
To put back out next year. So as you can see with this one we get to these numbers a lot faster

2070
02:58:07,310 --> 02:58:09,970
And I think we would do the same thing with with 2028 again

2071
02:58:09,970 --> 02:58:13,890
It's still model that 350 with the expectation is anything that comes back from this year

2072
02:58:14,430 --> 02:58:21,110
And if any increase in sales tax over two years with health support that number and so that's kind of our updated scenario a lot of now

2073
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:24,190
No, and what we know and also understanding we want to strike a balance of putting money

2074
02:58:25,270 --> 02:58:26,070
You know

2075
02:58:26,070 --> 02:58:31,590
Through this competitive grant cycle process while also maintaining the ability to focus on some of these larger projects

2076
02:58:32,450 --> 02:58:40,650
I think another key point here, I don't think you're going to get to the end of 2030 with all this money there, right?

2077
02:58:40,710 --> 02:58:46,030
I think the idea is to be able to use this for projects that are likely to pop up sometimes sooner than this.

2078
02:58:46,310 --> 02:58:50,530
The beauty of having a five-year model is that you can easily kind of roll it over once that gets bent back down.

2079
02:58:50,630 --> 02:58:52,630
You have a baseline number and you can start over.

2080
02:58:53,650 --> 02:58:57,430
And I also think another point that I want to make sure is clear is,

2081
02:58:57,430 --> 02:59:02,330
You know, these are spent out of the common ground fund, these are spent on common ground related projects.

2082
02:59:02,590 --> 02:59:07,110
These would go through the citizens advisory committee for recommendations and come to the board for review.

2083
02:59:09,330 --> 02:59:16,010
But it's not likely that we are utilizing these funds exclusively to pay for something by ourselves.

2084
02:59:16,390 --> 02:59:25,350
Right? This is likely part of a capital stack that comes from, you know, this fund, you know, again helping us apply for larger projects from GoCo

2085
02:59:25,350 --> 02:59:27,310
or CPW trust for public lands,

2086
02:59:27,590 --> 02:59:29,350
the conservation of whoever it may be,

2087
02:59:29,350 --> 02:59:31,530
that's really putting a lot of dollars towards

2088
02:59:31,530 --> 02:59:32,410
these broader projects.

2089
02:59:32,710 --> 02:59:36,210
This gives us the ability to actually have some money

2090
02:59:36,210 --> 02:59:37,610
in the bank that we can use for that.

2091
02:59:37,790 --> 02:59:39,750
I'll also note it makes us a bit more attractive

2092
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:41,290
and eligible for some of these low opportunities.

2093
02:59:41,990 --> 02:59:45,010
We don't have a proven track record of being able to pay

2094
02:59:45,010 --> 02:59:46,810
something back in a few years with this fund

2095
02:59:46,810 --> 02:59:48,750
because we've always over-appropriated it.

2096
02:59:49,070 --> 02:59:53,450
And I think if we can say, hey, go co or trust for public lands,

2097
02:59:53,450 --> 02:59:59,970
you know, you've got your zero interest loan program for two years, we've got the ability to pay you back through this

2098
03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:05,860
That opens up some additional funding opportunities for this fund and for this community as well.

2099
03:00:07,980 --> 03:00:12,680
And again, I think that this is not something that is new in terms of its direction.

2100
03:00:13,840 --> 03:00:20,540
The ballot measure, the resolution that put the common ground ballot measure on the ballot in 2018,

2101
03:00:20,540 --> 03:00:24,580
and contemplated things like land acquisition as part of it, right?

2102
03:00:24,580 --> 03:00:28,520
That is built into something that is, you know, the examples of supporting

2103
03:00:28,520 --> 03:00:30,260
Ag or working lands and rural landscapes

2104
03:00:30,260 --> 03:00:34,000
or supporting the ability to manage the impacts of growth.

2105
03:00:35,060 --> 03:00:38,340
And, you know, so this is not something that is created

2106
03:00:39,020 --> 03:00:40,880
brand new, we're just taking a look back

2107
03:00:40,880 --> 03:00:42,620
at these establishing documents and saying, hey,

2108
03:00:42,880 --> 03:00:44,120
how does this fit within our plans?

2109
03:00:44,140 --> 03:00:46,000
How does this fit within our broader goals?

2110
03:00:46,440 --> 03:00:48,460
And how do we make sure that we can kind of find this balance

2111
03:00:48,460 --> 03:00:52,360
of being able to support these opportunities when they come available while also making sure

2112
03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:56,060
that we're supporting the community in the ways that we have over the past few years

2113
03:00:56,060 --> 03:00:57,840
and want to continue to do.

2114
03:01:00,970 --> 03:01:03,830
Again, we've got some, I think, the next steps for you guys,

2115
03:01:04,050 --> 03:01:08,790
again, this is not a budget hearing. It's not the adoption of a budget. The 26th budget is done.

2116
03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:13,170
I'm sure Dan doesn't want to revisit that. Part of this was just kind of getting your feedback

2117
03:01:13,170 --> 03:01:19,910
and understanding of what that model was and then to be able to take something back to the

2118
03:01:19,910 --> 03:01:26,070
We, here's what we're doing, you know, we've got, I think they are, you know,

2119
03:01:26,250 --> 03:01:29,330
I hesitate to call them a silly competing proposals, but what I think they are is that we

2120
03:01:29,330 --> 03:01:33,250
said trying to find some balance here in that framework in order to know if the

2121
03:01:33,250 --> 03:01:37,890
organic commissioners have any different direction other than kind of what we set or

2122
03:01:37,890 --> 03:01:38,750
or at least what we're thinking about.

2123
03:01:41,620 --> 03:01:43,240
Thank you, Rebecca.

2124
03:01:44,720 --> 03:01:49,340
Yeah, yeah, I feel like we don't emphasize what we had to emphasize in the beginning

2125
03:01:49,340 --> 03:01:56,260
and then we have to jump start this when we get it off the foot start too, and then we can back to a running mode that's with the both sides.

2126
03:01:56,900 --> 03:02:00,540
So in the way sense, they kind of accelerate our savings early.

2127
03:02:01,300 --> 03:02:01,800
That's important.

2128
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:03,860
I think it's just loaded up.

2129
03:02:03,920 --> 03:02:07,840
So I mean, for example, here in the model that we need to see.

2130
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:11,000
And it's conservative and that we do better,

2131
03:02:11,260 --> 03:02:12,840
but a little back into the current grand cycle.

2132
03:02:13,060 --> 03:02:14,180
That's the key right there.

2133
03:02:15,900 --> 03:02:16,040
There.

2134
03:02:17,080 --> 03:02:17,260
Oh.

2135
03:02:17,960 --> 03:02:18,220
Yeah.

2136
03:02:19,920 --> 03:02:22,200
Well, and I think this really

2137
03:02:24,280 --> 03:02:39,160
having that rainy day fund for that critical project that pops up that we haven't caught up yet is by far in the best interest in very much.

2138
03:02:39,160 --> 03:03:04,340
I think that's what the common ground tax was approved. That was really what they were looking at was that opportunity opportunity to take care of our forest

2139
03:03:04,340 --> 03:03:08,000
to take care of our advocates, to help out with recreation,

2140
03:03:10,400 --> 03:03:13,160
and I think this is, yeah, the next

2141
03:03:13,160 --> 03:03:17,200
effects, right? Critical phase in that stewardship.

2142
03:03:20,960 --> 03:03:21,720
Yeah. Yeah.

2143
03:03:23,100 --> 03:03:32,060
No, first off, thanks for the presentation. It was great. And sitting in a committee in listening

2144
03:03:32,060 --> 03:03:56,460
And I appreciate thoughts coming from the committee and their involvement and all the work they're doing, especially with the competitive grant cycle, which is their main role. I pre-feet, you know, they, their intention to share their thoughts and I do think what's presented here today in this more conservative model for savings is by far the way to go.

2145
03:03:57,840 --> 03:04:10,460
A few points, I just wanted to reiterate from your proposal that this is a model that we're considering to help

2146
03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:21,920
kind of build that unreserved, unallocated over the five year period, but those funds could be used for a great opportunity at end of time.

2147
03:04:21,920 --> 03:04:34,920
You may of the same minute. We don't have to wait until we get to 2030 something pops up. We can use that. There's no rules that we have to wait that that time frame and I think that's something just really important to point out.

2148
03:04:36,140 --> 03:04:49,560
I think there's been a little bit of misinformation and along the way with some of this and I just want to make sure that's clear for folks listening and understand that.

2149
03:04:50,460 --> 03:04:57,560
Another point in PT touch them as well, and you brought up a great stat that, you know, four organizations have

2150
03:04:58,600 --> 03:05:03,560
I've utilized two thirds of the funding from CIC. Now, I'm sure there's a good reason for that.

2151
03:05:04,880 --> 03:05:10,540
I can't speak to all that before I got here, but at least some of it probably before I got here, but

2152
03:05:12,260 --> 03:05:16,540
but the three things that, you know, were in that ballot measure, which we've identified.

2153
03:05:16,540 --> 03:05:29,860
It's great and I'm glad those are the things we're focused on and I do think that having the ability to have it's on an allocated dollars for opportunity that might be a bigger a bigger thing

2154
03:05:30,760 --> 03:05:34,600
allows those dollars to stretch for therefore the entire

2155
03:05:34,600 --> 03:05:36,720
County everybody

2156
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:44,640
I think it's really important that we've identified these these three areas which I think everybody cares about

2157
03:05:44,640 --> 03:05:54,540
But it's nice to see that people that are hanging with their tax dollars to this fund also have the opportunity to reap the benefits from it.

2158
03:05:54,820 --> 03:05:57,400
Not just some organizations or individuals.

2159
03:05:57,840 --> 03:06:02,620
Now granted it's important that every their space for funding for each group.

2160
03:06:03,160 --> 03:06:10,080
But I do think it's an important call out that the entire community gets benefit from this as well.

2161
03:06:10,080 --> 03:06:16,060
those larger opportunities that made pop-up. I think that's really where the opportunity presents itself.

2162
03:06:16,480 --> 03:06:21,840
And I just think it's important for all. I know this was about I sure that past, you know,

2163
03:06:21,960 --> 03:06:25,940
as a close, and I think maybe some of the reason for that was some folks were worried that they weren't

2164
03:06:25,940 --> 03:06:36,050
going to see a benefit from it. And so having this unallocated funds goes to potentially something that

2165
03:06:36,050 --> 03:06:38,610
as that larger impact through the county,

2166
03:06:39,510 --> 03:06:43,350
I think they may feel, hey, I'm seeing this come back around

2167
03:06:43,350 --> 03:06:44,890
and I'm really happy for the opportunity.

2168
03:06:45,570 --> 03:06:46,990
So I think it's just kind of addresses

2169
03:06:46,990 --> 03:06:52,710
that larger scale, I don't know, a approach

2170
03:06:52,710 --> 03:06:54,090
or that impact for everybody.

2171
03:06:55,030 --> 03:06:57,110
And I just, I don't think we really get a chance

2172
03:06:57,110 --> 03:06:59,130
talk about that too often in that regard.

2173
03:06:59,750 --> 03:07:01,910
And so I want to kind of push it to the forefront.

2174
03:07:05,000 --> 03:07:21,200
And the last thing, just to kind of reiterate, again, because I think it's, I'm sure the information's out there and it's correct, you know, outside of this year for 2026 and not having a competitive grant cycle, there will be a grant cycle, moving forward all the other years.

2175
03:07:21,940 --> 03:07:25,320
Additionally, there will all outside of the competitive grant cycle.

2176
03:07:25,500 --> 03:07:31,000
There are still funding that's already been pre-approved for those multi-year.

2177
03:07:31,360 --> 03:07:33,320
So we have two buckets there.

2178
03:07:33,600 --> 03:07:36,560
And then we're being able to have some that allocated dollars.

2179
03:07:37,060 --> 03:07:38,880
That's the third piece of it.

2180
03:07:39,120 --> 03:07:43,200
And so we're still able to do all the things that have been done in the past.

2181
03:07:43,460 --> 03:07:44,400
So nothing is disappearing.

2182
03:07:44,480 --> 03:07:48,220
The intent and the goal and the mission of this remains the same.

2183
03:07:48,220 --> 03:07:52,860
we're just taking a more conservative approach viscally and ensuring that we have opportunities

2184
03:07:53,420 --> 03:07:59,280
for the entire county if something larger comes up or maybe it is an opportunity that works for

2185
03:07:59,280 --> 03:08:04,340
one thing or the other but I think having those funds in place for that is probably the most

2186
03:08:04,340 --> 03:08:10,640
important thing we can be doing so anyhow just wanted to kind of reiterate those points as I

2187
03:08:10,640 --> 03:08:17,660
I don't feel those those have been shared properly or appropriately. Yeah thanks again I think one of

2188
03:08:17,660 --> 03:08:25,380
things that we heard was some serious concern about taking money out of the common ground fund

2189
03:08:25,380 --> 03:08:28,900
to fund other county projects and I think that is very clearly not the case.

2190
03:08:29,140 --> 03:08:34,660
It's not any of the intent here and I wanted to at least address those concerns very

2191
03:08:34,660 --> 03:08:38,760
specific but because all we're talking about is the ability to do broader projects within that

2192
03:08:38,760 --> 03:08:42,620
common ground umbrella and I think what we have seen over the you know in the past there have been

2193
03:08:42,620 --> 03:08:52,420
projects that really are funded out over at least are hitting multiple of those funding areas at the same time.

2194
03:08:52,720 --> 03:08:58,540
You know, we've seen some projects that try to help balance the needs of record agriculture together, or a forest health and recreation.

2195
03:08:58,740 --> 03:09:06,240
You know, there's a lot of opportunities for, you know, a project to really hit multiple benefits.

2196
03:09:06,660 --> 03:09:10,840
And one of the things we want to do is make sure that that's part of the key criteria to reviewing these.

2197
03:09:10,840 --> 03:09:18,980
Because the ballot measure does still prescribe certain expenditures, certain percentages to those buckets, and wanting to make sure we're following that to a team.

2198
03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:27,860
And so again, nothing like this gets done without broad community support, nothing gets done without a lot of outreach and engagement, nothing gets done without this thing going.

2199
03:09:29,520 --> 03:09:37,200
Any opportunity going through the citizens advisory committee for recommendations through the county commissioners for approval of expenditures.

2200
03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:49,640
And, you know, I think this is for us kind of the next step in the evolution of this program and of this common ground initiative is to make sure that we're really making a lasting impact.

2201
03:09:53,070 --> 03:09:54,890
Any thoughts for us here, Dave?

2202
03:09:55,270 --> 03:09:55,350
Sure.

2203
03:09:55,670 --> 03:09:55,970
Okay.

2204
03:09:57,250 --> 03:09:58,770
First of all, thanks again.

2205
03:09:59,430 --> 03:10:00,510
Smile for the presentation.

2206
03:10:01,490 --> 03:10:02,350
Math and the work.

2207
03:10:05,570 --> 03:10:08,970
I've learned a lot just listening to my injury

2208
03:10:08,970 --> 03:10:11,150
here speaking to some of this also.

2209
03:10:11,990 --> 03:10:13,410
I think the confusion.

2210
03:10:14,450 --> 03:10:15,870
I'm going to call it infusion.

2211
03:10:16,150 --> 03:10:17,090
Intentional or Intentional.

2212
03:10:18,290 --> 03:10:19,710
It's going to,

2213
03:10:19,710 --> 03:10:21,850
and around short-term funds and lots of funds.

2214
03:10:21,850 --> 03:10:26,550
And those aren't separate, you know, seal containers, right?

2215
03:10:26,730 --> 03:10:28,430
There's flow between them.

2216
03:10:28,830 --> 03:10:31,410
And so a model is just that a model, right?

2217
03:10:31,870 --> 03:10:36,650
But the strategy and the importance of this is the point that P.T. made about getting a

2218
03:10:36,650 --> 03:10:40,670
cells ready for a long-term achievement is reiterated also.

2219
03:10:40,970 --> 03:10:42,970
And I'm totally behind that.

2220
03:10:43,290 --> 03:10:45,250
So we can't predict a future.

2221
03:10:46,110 --> 03:10:51,490
And until such time as we get to a point where the short-term projects

2222
03:10:52,550 --> 03:10:58,890
financially buff up against concerns about saving enough for long term, we're going to have

2223
03:10:58,890 --> 03:11:04,090
to deal with that when and if that happens. But hypothetically think about that today,

2224
03:11:05,030 --> 03:11:11,490
just winds us up in a lot here and it's not good. It's like somebody coming into our meeting

2225
03:11:11,490 --> 03:11:16,770
and saying, my land's worth less because you've got this code. It says that something down the road

2226
03:11:16,770 --> 03:11:18,350
might impact it negatively.

2227
03:11:20,270 --> 03:11:24,730
Well, I think you can't save money if you spend it,

2228
03:11:24,750 --> 03:11:26,170
and you can't spend it if you don't have it.

2229
03:11:26,710 --> 03:11:28,990
And I think for us, again, this is a model.

2230
03:11:29,270 --> 03:11:32,390
And if there's a significant need to bolster a grain cycle,

2231
03:11:32,490 --> 03:11:33,830
or an initiative, or something else,

2232
03:11:34,110 --> 03:11:36,450
you've got the ability to do that.

2233
03:11:36,450 --> 03:11:39,090
This is not anything set in stone.

2234
03:11:39,210 --> 03:11:41,110
This is just, hey, here's how we're going to operate.

2235
03:11:41,510 --> 03:11:42,670
Obviously, at least for this year,

2236
03:11:42,770 --> 03:11:44,890
and I think giving us a preview of what we're going to do next year,

2237
03:11:44,890 --> 03:11:52,670
because ultimately what we want to do is set the community foundation up to start getting applications

2238
03:11:52,670 --> 03:11:58,090
for that 2027 grand cycle this year and they want to do that starting in August and I think

2239
03:11:58,090 --> 03:12:02,970
with these numbers like I said I think we can commit to at very minimum for $150,000 now with

2240
03:12:02,970 --> 03:12:07,430
this approach. If you want to take a different approach we go from that. We can finalize those numbers

2241
03:12:07,430 --> 03:12:13,750
at a later date again once we see kind of how folks have utilized their 2025 funds but I feel

2242
03:12:13,750 --> 03:12:19,090
pretty good about having a cycle that's going to, again, put somebody back out of the community,

2243
03:12:19,230 --> 03:12:23,350
especially given we've already committed, you know, and we'll spend over a million, a year,

2244
03:12:23,410 --> 03:12:26,710
and over 500,000 next year, irrespective of any additional funds approved.

2245
03:12:28,470 --> 03:12:35,870
I think just, and for clarification, too, just for listening and in the room, I mean, the

2246
03:12:35,870 --> 03:12:43,010
KAC and the BUSCC were all in the same page with they're not being a competitive

2247
03:12:43,010 --> 03:12:48,530
grant cycle for 2026 and also that we should have an unallocated fund.

2248
03:12:49,270 --> 03:12:53,270
So both groups have to see that as a smart move.

2249
03:12:53,570 --> 03:12:56,570
So this isn't something that's completely outside of the lines.

2250
03:12:56,890 --> 03:13:01,690
And though I think you've started the conversation kind of sharing that the competitive

2251
03:13:01,690 --> 03:13:04,130
a grant cycle, wasn't actually part of the original minute.

2252
03:13:04,190 --> 03:13:05,410
That was something that was put in.

2253
03:13:05,470 --> 03:13:08,690
So there is flexibility to be able to do more and

2254
03:13:09,950 --> 03:13:11,430
change things if see fit.

2255
03:13:11,490 --> 03:13:13,110
And I think that's where we've had a great

2256
03:13:13,110 --> 03:13:15,670
conversation to see what does make sense.

2257
03:13:16,350 --> 03:13:18,270
And so I think all the work that's been done to guess

2258
03:13:18,270 --> 03:13:21,770
where we are today has been an excellent job.

2259
03:13:21,950 --> 03:13:22,590
It's been thoughtful.

2260
03:13:22,750 --> 03:13:23,870
It has been collaborative.

2261
03:13:24,250 --> 03:13:25,690
And I think we're doing a great job

2262
03:13:25,690 --> 03:13:28,390
and thinking about the future of our community and county.

2263
03:13:28,390 --> 03:13:28,990
so.

2264
03:13:31,770 --> 03:13:38,310
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You guys did a good job. I understand it better now.

2265
03:13:39,450 --> 03:13:42,490
Thanks. All right. All right. Thanks, Susan. Thank you, Susan.

2266
03:13:45,530 --> 03:13:47,190
Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Susan.

2267
03:13:48,350 --> 03:13:52,450
Are you looking for emotion or anything? I don't, I don't need a motion. I think this was, you know,

2268
03:13:52,450 --> 03:13:56,670
considering that long range strategy. I think, you know, if you guys have some direction to

2269
03:13:56,670 --> 03:14:01,310
to take back to the CAC to let them know. Hey, here's what we're doing. You know, I know the community

2270
03:14:01,310 --> 03:14:06,710
foundation is ready to get moving on there and internal preparations. And so I think, you know,

2271
03:14:06,770 --> 03:14:11,210
this was the model we've more or less set up. And I think if you guys are in agreement that this is

2272
03:14:11,210 --> 03:14:16,550
the way you want to go, that's where we'll go. And I will, you know, again, we're ready to kind of put some

2273
03:14:16,550 --> 03:14:19,350
more information out about this because I think it's been

2274
03:14:22,800 --> 03:14:24,140
kind of ping-pong back.

2275
03:16:15,730 --> 03:16:32,210
Okay, so for both climate commission and CAC, I don't have any major pending items that are going to require somebody to be in place, you know, March 1st, all these are built in such that the term of anybody whose term is ending does not actually end until you appoint a successor.

2276
03:16:33,930 --> 03:16:46,230
But we have had some other metrics and so I think what we would do is if you guys would direct us to sex and interviews with those, we will find the dates and times for that with your schedule and hopefully set those interviews as soon as possible.

2277
03:16:46,630 --> 03:16:48,210
How many seats are on planning commission?

2278
03:16:49,130 --> 03:16:54,310
I think commission right now I believe has one open regular seat and up to two alternates.

2279
03:16:55,290 --> 03:17:02,370
based on the seven voting members and two alternates system that we've had in place for the last year or so, which has been working great.

2280
03:17:02,970 --> 03:17:07,110
The CAC has at least two voting member seats.

2281
03:17:07,950 --> 03:17:13,470
But it does not have alternates, and I think based on the model we have, we would have at least a couple of alternates hopefully.

2282
03:17:14,370 --> 03:17:16,630
We can add two alternates. Yeah, absolutely.

2283
03:17:19,300 --> 03:17:25,760
I mean, I would say maybe after our next workshop session on the second or after our meeting.

2284
03:17:26,580 --> 03:17:29,240
I mean, ideally one other altogether.

2285
03:17:29,540 --> 03:17:32,800
Yeah, I think that's what we are initially playing and taking a look at these agendas to say,

2286
03:17:33,180 --> 03:17:34,680
I hate work sessions and regular meeting dates.

2287
03:17:35,520 --> 03:17:38,380
And that gives us a flexibility in early March to get these things.

2288
03:17:38,880 --> 03:17:41,380
And give folks some understanding if I can't make the first Monday,

2289
03:17:41,560 --> 03:17:43,920
or make the first Tuesday, maybe I can make the second Monday.

2290
03:17:43,920 --> 03:17:56,960
I will not be around on the night for our work session, Dave, to that, my friend, and so I would ask.

2291
03:17:56,960 --> 03:17:58,220
We can stay away from that one thing.

2292
03:17:58,300 --> 03:18:06,820
I would like to personally love to have everybody provide an interview, and I would like to be there for all of them.

2293
03:18:06,820 --> 03:18:09,880
And again, I think once that period closes today,

2294
03:18:09,900 --> 03:18:11,300
terrorist advantage of that,

2295
03:18:11,300 --> 03:18:12,580
and terror can send out kind of a hate.

2296
03:18:12,880 --> 03:18:14,240
Here's what we got for each one in the world,

2297
03:18:14,280 --> 03:18:17,740
we've talked to those candidates to give them some dates

2298
03:18:17,740 --> 03:18:20,700
for those potential interviews and go from there.

2299
03:18:25,170 --> 03:18:25,950
Nice to meet you.

2300
03:18:27,050 --> 03:18:27,210
Hi.

2301
03:18:28,030 --> 03:18:30,430
OK, our last regular item,

2302
03:18:30,790 --> 03:18:32,930
consider creation of governance resolution

2303
03:18:32,930 --> 03:18:35,170
for the lead advisory board.

2304
03:18:36,330 --> 03:18:36,990
Thank you.

2305
03:18:36,990 --> 03:18:44,210
I will spare you any pop culture lyrics for I'm sorry that I didn't deliver on that, but the

2306
03:18:44,210 --> 03:18:51,250
last item in the theme of some sort of re-visitation and cleanup of our volunteer advisory boards

2307
03:18:51,250 --> 03:18:58,330
and committees with gratitude for all of the individuals who show up and give their time and experience

2308
03:18:58,330 --> 03:19:06,330
to these efforts. The lead advisory board is a statutory mandated advisory board for counties who have

2309
03:19:06,330 --> 03:19:10,790
that we've made a plan, which is also requirement of county is comforting back to 1990.

2310
03:19:10,970 --> 03:19:16,770
So we've had a plan in place in 1992, and in doing so, had established a weed advisory board,

2311
03:19:16,930 --> 03:19:22,150
basically, aligns our weed management plan with the realities on the ground.

2312
03:19:23,890 --> 03:19:30,670
You need to the weed advisory board from the other ways in which we have managed boards and committees

2313
03:19:30,670 --> 03:19:37,750
This is that the advisory board was established in an intergovernmental agreement between

2314
03:19:37,750 --> 03:19:43,010
Ch. B. Coney and Lake County. Lake County has also adopted our week management plan.

2315
03:19:44,330 --> 03:19:50,510
And the service on their jurisdictions is also provided to our week management department or

2316
03:19:50,510 --> 03:19:55,910
I'll be there watching speeds, division of non-cass speeds now located in the Canadian Planning Natural Resources Department.

2317
03:19:56,610 --> 03:20:05,350
And as we've had leadership change in that role over the past year, we've looked a new, at some of our historical constructs and management.

2318
03:20:05,710 --> 03:20:14,010
And as Brian Malik is updating our weekly management plan, we're also looking more broadly at the ways in which the weed management board, et cetera, have been facilitated.

2319
03:20:14,010 --> 03:20:42,110
And doing so with the United Faculty, this IGA is actually a bit antiquated, both in terms of the individuals who are made as members of the lead advisory board, as well as some of the details that we'd like to get straight right now really sort of hybridizes are complaints, the adoption of the lead management plan, the individual lead or appointees, money is associated with contracted services for different jurisdictions like Lake County.

2320
03:20:42,850 --> 03:20:49,310
as well as enumerating some of the specific species that are covered and what we really feel

2321
03:20:49,310 --> 03:20:54,170
like would be a better practice, it is to break these out into appropriate instruments for

2322
03:20:54,170 --> 03:20:55,070
these reasons.

2323
03:20:55,250 --> 03:21:00,150
So having a weed management plan, which is a standalone document, ultimately adopted by publishers,

2324
03:21:00,450 --> 03:21:04,750
which Brian is working on, obligating that's a first statute of every three years cycle,

2325
03:21:05,470 --> 03:21:11,250
as well as have a governing resolution that sounds the weed management board to meet the requirements

2326
03:21:11,250 --> 03:21:20,270
statute says what their attention is, where they reside, the terms, any of those details that are

2327
03:21:20,270 --> 03:21:25,010
both mandated by statute as well as what is viewed as a best service to the community.

2328
03:21:25,350 --> 03:21:31,390
There are some things that require them at the majority of the members have land over 40 acres,

2329
03:21:31,550 --> 03:21:35,730
etc. So some attributes that we just want to make sure that we are attentive to and reflecting,

2330
03:21:35,730 --> 03:21:42,110
as well as representation from any other jurisdictions like Lake County, who have adopted our

2331
03:21:42,110 --> 03:21:47,470
WD management plan and have a joint board overseeing our two counties, as well as any

2332
03:21:47,470 --> 03:21:53,430
agreements that in a fee for service engagement or our read department, providing services

2333
03:21:53,430 --> 03:21:58,170
on the ground there, are just reflective of our current needs, our scope of work, and the indexing

2334
03:21:58,170 --> 03:22:01,050
those types of things that we would want to get cleaned up.

2335
03:22:01,050 --> 03:22:13,170
As it so happens, the IGA that is in place with Lake County on an identified year rolling IGA will be up for reconsideration or renewal in 2027, so that now is as good a time of any

2336
03:22:13,170 --> 03:22:22,170
to just address these questions and clear up so that we can get those sorted out and stood up in the ways that make most sense both of the advisory board, which we've got

2337
03:22:22,170 --> 03:22:35,150
and commissioners represented instead of past four members as well as some of the current acting members that are within other jurisdictions and then just set us up for success, so that as we update that we manage with many, etc.

2338
03:22:35,390 --> 03:22:38,470
All these things just work well together and in a sense.

2339
03:22:39,590 --> 03:22:49,450
So wanted to just bring this up as something that we've identified we've reached out to late county to pursue similar conversation with them and make sure that they would be amenable.

2340
03:22:49,450 --> 03:22:55,610
some of these cleanups, I mean, you're not seeking specific direction today, but just in the same theme of all of these

2341
03:22:55,610 --> 03:22:59,990
advisory committees and boards, I wanted to let myself do something that we'd like to tighten up and set up

2342
03:22:59,990 --> 03:23:10,230
for subsequent action. So desire and direct. I think it's great. I'm disappointed that our second meeting in April

2343
03:23:10,230 --> 03:23:17,530
is the 21st because this would have been a lot of fun if we're on the 24th or 24th or 24th or 24th.

2344
03:23:17,530 --> 03:23:17,810
Good.

2345
03:23:18,250 --> 03:23:18,450
Good.

2346
03:23:19,410 --> 03:23:20,930
Different types of.

2347
03:23:22,210 --> 03:23:22,470
Of course.

2348
03:23:24,010 --> 03:23:25,050
Under desirable speech.

2349
03:23:26,110 --> 03:23:27,210
Of course.

2350
03:23:27,530 --> 03:23:28,130
Then in the.

2351
03:23:28,410 --> 03:23:29,090
For that.

2352
03:23:30,270 --> 03:23:32,050
But yes, certainly Brian was in branded.

2353
03:23:32,610 --> 03:23:35,530
Tony Garrett's a lot of questions and sort of.

2354
03:23:35,670 --> 03:23:36,450
Side glands, I think.

2355
03:23:36,850 --> 03:23:37,410
It's.

2356
03:23:37,410 --> 03:23:38,210
How did the community.

2357
03:23:39,070 --> 03:23:39,690
So to be clear.

2358
03:23:40,770 --> 03:23:41,110
Thank you.

2359
03:23:41,390 --> 03:23:41,490
Yeah.

2360
03:23:41,770 --> 03:23:42,090
Plurification.

2361
03:23:42,490 --> 03:23:42,630
I was.

2362
03:23:53,250 --> 03:24:05,550
You're not looking for, you said, no, it's just physical action. Again, we're just, you know, you want to get in the right rotation and timeline and particularly because I haven't yet had the opportunity to discuss that link.

2363
03:24:05,750 --> 03:24:12,490
Hopefully, despite having reached out to them, I just wanted to bring this up is something that we're working on and if there were any questions or considerations that you had at this point.

2364
03:24:12,630 --> 03:24:17,330
who had told us, and otherwise, we'll bring this back to you, and coming meeting with us.

2365
03:24:17,490 --> 03:24:21,070
There's something for somebody that we've worked with so much, telling you on some of the work.

2366
03:24:21,110 --> 03:24:27,530
I mean, there's a region, and I think bringing this on, we have questions, but he's got a whole, you know, free month.

2367
03:24:27,790 --> 03:24:28,850
There's relationship there.

2368
03:24:28,970 --> 03:24:29,650
We work with Steve out.

2369
03:24:29,670 --> 03:24:30,770
There's a number of different frequencies.

2370
03:24:31,230 --> 03:24:33,090
How do these sort of interesting way reach out?

2371
03:24:33,190 --> 03:24:36,210
We see that the affirmative, there's permission to talk to the community there.

2372
03:24:36,530 --> 03:24:37,970
So there is a broader footprint.

2373
03:24:37,970 --> 03:24:45,930
It's what then the professor didn't have to come on broadly, but I think in terms of having adopted our remanagement plan that I'm going to relate.

2374
03:24:50,910 --> 03:24:56,110
Well, I don't think you have the direction you need so you're.

2375
03:24:56,110 --> 03:24:56,410
I do.

2376
03:24:56,770 --> 03:25:01,130
And well, we'll come back here in coming weeks with some sort of action. So thank you.

2377
03:25:01,230 --> 03:25:05,270
All right. Well, the role into commissioner comments, there's just.

2378
03:25:05,270 --> 03:25:12,270
about this there's still one thing I kind of wanted to share first and kind of well

2379
03:25:12,270 --> 03:25:18,570
they will roll back in. I apologize for having to scoot out that coffee was intense and I

2380
03:25:18,570 --> 03:25:21,430
could not. That was going to make it anyway.

2381
03:25:24,170 --> 03:25:30,230
It's a real quick. One thing for the board to consider

2382
03:25:30,230 --> 03:25:34,290
or maybe we can get this on the next agenda,

2383
03:25:34,570 --> 03:25:37,190
we'll have to push it to a little bit later,

2384
03:25:37,850 --> 03:25:39,530
but something I've been thinking a lot of,

2385
03:25:39,550 --> 03:25:42,130
when we talked a little bit earlier about today,

2386
03:25:42,910 --> 03:25:46,730
we were the board of the adjustment or sort of,

2387
03:25:47,630 --> 03:25:49,910
okay, language forward, but anyway,

2388
03:25:50,470 --> 03:25:54,790
but I think we really helpful if we could formally

2389
03:25:54,790 --> 03:25:58,670
continue with the conversation around wildlife mapping

2390
03:25:58,670 --> 03:26:04,610
in the sit-backs, then we've had a few conversations as far a few things have come up and I know

2391
03:26:04,610 --> 03:26:10,430
it's been I think pretty tough too on the community natural resources department too.

2392
03:26:11,470 --> 03:26:16,850
We've got a great lane use code but I think we all agree that this that living document and there's

2393
03:26:16,850 --> 03:26:26,050
opportunity to just redefine and come up with definitions and that reasonable conversation that we had

2394
03:26:26,050 --> 03:26:33,410
last meeting, you know, and how we define that. And so I think if my fellow commissioners

2395
03:26:33,410 --> 03:26:38,930
here, I've heard you with this idea, but I think it would be nice to maybe do an executive session

2396
03:26:38,930 --> 03:26:45,130
with our team from the Community Natural Resources Department and the BCC to just kind of talk a

2397
03:26:45,130 --> 03:26:51,570
little bit about that. So we can look into some of those issues, but obviously I think it's important

2398
03:26:51,570 --> 03:26:56,330
that we are able to do that together, which is why I would ask for the executive session.

2399
03:26:57,570 --> 03:26:59,950
So, three of us are at the same conversation.

2400
03:27:01,390 --> 03:27:05,230
Obviously, it opens to lots of, there's another way you'd like to do that.

2401
03:27:05,390 --> 03:27:11,230
But I do think it might be nice to all be around together and kind of chat a little bit about that.

2402
03:27:12,190 --> 03:27:13,710
And I don't know if legal has anything.

2403
03:27:15,830 --> 03:27:18,690
That's obvious about that community session.

2404
03:27:18,690 --> 03:27:47,830
Okay. Okay. Well, I don't really care. But, but I do think we need to, I just want to push that forward to have a formal conversation where instead of just potentially cost around ideas because I think it's something that will help not only the community helps are, and you have such staff helps us helps everybody, how do we, how do we approach that and maybe work through that process a little better for everybody involved with out and you know,

2405
03:27:47,830 --> 03:27:51,530
pretty any injury too, because it's a great code.

2406
03:27:54,960 --> 03:28:00,700
So yeah, I say, you know, I don't, we don't know if it needs that,

2407
03:28:00,860 --> 03:28:02,340
about a, you

2408
03:28:04,580 --> 03:28:07,780
know, Maori, you know, they don't know if it's okay.

2409
03:28:07,940 --> 03:28:09,000
They're good.

2410
03:28:10,220 --> 03:28:10,240
Okay.

2411
03:28:10,240 --> 03:28:13,260
Actful. I think just a work session discussion.

2412
03:28:14,220 --> 03:28:14,300
Okay.

2413
03:28:15,540 --> 03:28:19,720
That's, I mean, if we start there and it's something

2414
03:28:19,720 --> 03:28:30,180
super sensitive crops up, that you feel needs, or school, and maybe we could pull that off to the side to take it later.

2415
03:28:31,280 --> 03:28:47,420
I think it's something we have to talk about, something that we promised people when we were developing a language code, but as we found these kinds of bumps that we would talk about.

2416
03:28:49,720 --> 03:28:58,060
As are kind of the last couple of larger things that we have, we're around those wildbites.

2417
03:28:58,700 --> 03:29:01,400
And the setbacks there and how that works.

2418
03:29:02,620 --> 03:29:07,780
And so obviously that's one thing that's a little bit more just fine to me.

2419
03:29:07,780 --> 03:29:32,160
I think those maps are a little shallow, I mean, we just need to talk about how we're going to start because, you know, you can be right here in the high impact area and then six inches over in a not a high impact area, and that's not actually how wildlife works.

2420
03:29:33,260 --> 03:29:46,540
So a fun discussion around how we do that kind of that blending of habitats and how that actually works in the real world.

2421
03:29:47,840 --> 03:29:50,620
So maybe we're miles deep.

2422
03:29:50,800 --> 03:29:56,920
I've seen the student apartment, you know, and so how do you feel about a work session, you know,

2423
03:29:57,820 --> 03:29:59,980
I think hopefully that would help you.

2424
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:07,040
I want to help your team to, you know, I mean, this is how do we make this easier for everybody and I want to beat you guys up.

2425
03:30:07,880 --> 03:30:09,000
So, you know.

2426
03:30:10,300 --> 03:30:10,380
Question.

2427
03:30:11,000 --> 03:30:11,480
Can you bring it out?

2428
03:30:11,760 --> 03:30:12,440
Can you bring it out?

2429
03:30:12,440 --> 03:30:12,800
Can you bring it out?

2430
03:30:12,800 --> 03:30:12,980
Can you bring it out?

2431
03:30:13,140 --> 03:30:16,660
Can you bring it out?

2432
03:30:17,320 --> 03:30:17,760
Okay.

2433
03:30:20,340 --> 03:30:21,180
It's a planning commission.

2434
03:30:24,720 --> 03:30:26,060
I don't think so.

2435
03:30:26,440 --> 03:30:26,740
I don't think so.

2436
03:30:26,740 --> 03:30:27,200
I don't think so.

2437
03:30:28,880 --> 03:30:31,760
It's a pretty

2438
03:30:35,540 --> 03:30:36,240
serious mistake.

2439
03:30:36,420 --> 03:30:36,440
It's a pretty serious mistake.

2440
03:30:36,500 --> 03:30:37,740
One more time.

2441
03:30:39,380 --> 03:30:42,220
But the plan equation has a role in this.

2442
03:30:42,400 --> 03:30:45,160
There are some of these applications that they would see.

2443
03:30:45,540 --> 03:30:50,400
But I think what we would do is say, if there's a, if there's a change in interpretation,

2444
03:30:50,660 --> 03:30:56,560
a lot of this, I think is direction to staff about its interpretation of some of these items that are up for administrative review.

2445
03:30:56,560 --> 03:31:03,720
If that's saying criteria or direction from the commissioners would apply to a planning commission session, we would like to know as well.

2446
03:31:05,850 --> 03:31:14,450
My intent here is really just trying to find a way to help all parties involved will maintain the purpose and the importance of what is in place.

2447
03:31:14,450 --> 03:31:26,210
I just personally try to, like, collaborate and make it easier for everybody, so we've also time money, stress, and all the things, but I want that to be went for everybody. It's not just one party of the other.

2448
03:31:26,810 --> 03:31:30,290
So, I don't know if you're all going to be right there.

2449
03:31:32,020 --> 03:31:32,060
No.

2450
03:31:33,620 --> 03:31:36,080
Here are the so why don't you do that? Don't you bet.

2451
03:31:36,740 --> 03:31:41,060
And you're okay, cool. Then maybe we can work on getting that.

2452
03:31:41,060 --> 03:31:45,800
an agenda in a time frame that makes sense after with you guys and see what works for you all,

2453
03:31:46,040 --> 03:31:51,040
but I just wanted to bring up a meeting so it could be formalized as something that it is

2454
03:31:51,040 --> 03:31:58,120
a priority for us to collectively look at and move on. So there's an order to create something that's

2455
03:31:58,120 --> 03:32:04,040
constantly changing the way your life, force, and water into a static.

2456
03:32:06,760 --> 03:32:08,740
But technically I guess those

2457
03:32:08,740 --> 03:32:15,660
Commissioner Common, I just kind of thought of as additional maybe business to continue with, but now I'd

2458
03:32:15,660 --> 03:32:19,860
pass it over to you all for your thoughts. You want to do a little first.

2459
03:32:22,380 --> 03:32:28,200
You're always ready. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, actually. I don't know. I've been kind of doing

2460
03:32:28,200 --> 03:32:32,660
with my Commissioner Commons for a while because there's a lot of doing to prove that the world,

2461
03:32:32,800 --> 03:32:37,760
but I think today staying positive, you'll want to accept them. Awesome. Yeah.

2462
03:32:37,760 --> 03:32:43,040
about the U.S. ski teams, what the Nordic and Alpine teams,

2463
03:32:43,660 --> 03:32:47,040
exceptional, those lady Bob slutters, unbelievable.

2464
03:32:48,660 --> 03:32:49,580
That's been great fun.

2465
03:32:49,900 --> 03:32:52,200
I want to go do some skeleton, anybody ever done that?

2466
03:32:52,420 --> 03:32:54,640
I love hunking my self head first.

2467
03:32:54,680 --> 03:32:57,200
Yeah, great next speeds.

2468
03:32:57,500 --> 03:32:58,340
That's kind of my thing.

2469
03:32:58,360 --> 03:32:59,740
That's why I became a commissioner.

2470
03:33:01,700 --> 03:33:05,400
Well, for just a little bit, I think you guys

2471
03:33:08,680 --> 03:33:15,240
I'm going to head off the monitor and get a tower pad to go to the top of the pan out.

2472
03:33:15,240 --> 03:33:16,580
Just go for it, let it rest.

2473
03:33:17,060 --> 03:33:17,500
Don't do that.

2474
03:33:17,980 --> 03:33:19,060
Don't do that.

2475
03:33:19,060 --> 03:33:22,740
It doesn't like something that guy would have done.

2476
03:33:23,040 --> 03:33:26,400
Let's be a purgatory back in the 80s.

2477
03:33:27,160 --> 03:33:27,240
Okay.

2478
03:33:27,720 --> 03:33:28,520
Follow me.

2479
03:33:28,780 --> 03:33:29,540
That's what I got.

2480
03:33:30,680 --> 03:33:31,440
Dave, anything?

2481
03:33:32,320 --> 03:33:34,840
Well, you like the long version of short version.

2482
03:33:34,840 --> 03:33:36,620
This is your time to shine, my friend.

2483
03:33:37,300 --> 03:33:40,200
Well, I had, I had a few extra minutes over this one weekend,

2484
03:33:40,420 --> 03:33:44,340
so I'm going to give you the, though, three minute working.

2485
03:33:46,640 --> 03:33:49,580
So Chiepy County's a special place to all of us who

2486
03:33:49,580 --> 03:33:52,980
call it home and enjoyed by many visit.

2487
03:33:53,760 --> 03:33:55,680
Some even moving here.

2488
03:33:56,480 --> 03:33:58,700
While the environment, mountain trails, wildlife,

2489
03:33:58,900 --> 03:34:01,400
Arkansas River are undeniably beautiful.

2490
03:34:01,400 --> 03:34:04,560
for many is the community of people who care.

2491
03:34:05,380 --> 03:34:07,140
When we sacrifice for each other,

2492
03:34:07,380 --> 03:34:10,560
we create opportunity for all and ourselves.

2493
03:34:12,180 --> 03:34:14,480
My election to the County Commissioner role

2494
03:34:14,480 --> 03:34:18,120
is a gift in an honor from the citizens of the county.

2495
03:34:18,720 --> 03:34:20,920
In return, I promised to obey all of U.S.

2496
03:34:21,460 --> 03:34:24,100
cost, owe to obey the U.S. Constitution and our laws.

2497
03:34:24,760 --> 03:34:27,180
Additionally, I promised to do the work needed to fulfill

2498
03:34:27,180 --> 03:34:35,460
your expectations for truth and transparency and in doing so under trust every day.

2499
03:34:36,260 --> 03:34:44,760
I joined the county or I joined a county organization with two other commissioners who are very talented and committed to leaving the county better than they found it.

2500
03:34:45,920 --> 03:34:51,560
We are learning and adapting and getting better every day even when the wind is not at our backs.

2501
03:34:52,300 --> 03:34:57,660
Our ambition is to continue this work, housing for those who need it, business models that

2502
03:34:57,660 --> 03:35:04,740
pay a living wage, working lands that reflect our heritage with economics that work for ranchers

2503
03:35:04,740 --> 03:35:11,940
and farmers, to protect those that obey our laws, and legally prosecute those that don't.

2504
03:35:12,600 --> 03:35:19,520
Public health and human services for those who need or require protection, a commitment to protect

2505
03:35:19,520 --> 03:35:22,620
and sustain our natural environment in life in it,

2506
03:35:22,940 --> 03:35:25,280
to continue fostering a welcoming community,

2507
03:35:26,040 --> 03:35:28,260
we will build on all of these.

2508
03:35:29,760 --> 03:35:33,020
Community has stepped up also in the form

2509
03:35:33,020 --> 03:35:35,240
of many nonprofits, boards, and commissions

2510
03:35:35,240 --> 03:35:37,660
to meet our needs and advance our dreams

2511
03:35:37,660 --> 03:35:39,180
and a day-to-day level.

2512
03:35:39,620 --> 03:35:42,060
We are fortunate for these dedicated citizens,

2513
03:35:42,380 --> 03:35:43,560
their talents and passion,

2514
03:35:43,940 --> 03:35:46,460
to foster a better life for all of us.

2515
03:35:46,460 --> 03:35:51,720
Change is never easy, especially when things seem to be trending in the right direction.

2516
03:35:52,560 --> 03:35:59,960
Yet we learn, build new commitments, force new paths, and take personal and team responsibility for the results.

2517
03:36:00,700 --> 03:36:07,360
We won't be perfect, in fact we commit to learn from our mistakes and fix them faster than we made them.

2518
03:36:08,720 --> 03:36:14,140
Common ground is that one example of growth and change with many positive results to date.

2519
03:36:14,140 --> 03:36:20,880
As the county comprehensive plan and sustainability plan evolves, so too, of the common ground

2520
03:36:20,880 --> 03:36:26,000
strategies and projects, we can't do everything yet we are fortunate to have a stream

2521
03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:29,020
of revenue to support immediate and long-term priorities.

2522
03:36:29,940 --> 03:36:35,480
The county takes its responsibility to the community seriously and it's commitment to utilize

2523
03:36:35,480 --> 03:36:39,340
taxpayer funds effectively and on well-defined priorities.

2524
03:36:39,340 --> 03:36:45,180
The advisory committee is a team of experts in the best position to execute and recommend

2525
03:36:45,180 --> 03:36:46,260
project priorities.

2526
03:36:47,180 --> 03:36:53,140
The county will manage funding and the county advisory committee identify and recommend

2527
03:36:53,140 --> 03:36:53,760
priorities.

2528
03:36:54,580 --> 03:36:59,600
The BOC will vote on recommended projects, rates, and provide funding.

2529
03:37:00,200 --> 03:37:05,060
Together we can meet both short and long-term goals to be prepared for the future.

2530
03:37:07,320 --> 03:37:13,260
there it is right there. Sociality written. Sociality done.

2531
03:37:15,020 --> 03:37:25,880
I don't know if I can fall up. Yes, yes, I think I think that was very nice. I don't know.

2532
03:37:25,960 --> 03:37:30,220
The only thing I would say is just thank you again to our staff and everybody for all

2533
03:37:30,220 --> 03:37:34,820
their hard work and making the school is I'd say it's easy and

2534
03:37:34,820 --> 03:37:43,100
Can you know, but, um, but it really does take and takes everybody to have a well-oiled machine for what the county is in all the all the time.

2535
03:37:43,280 --> 03:37:49,980
And so it was big, uh, I think, a big docket today, and I think we did pretty good job them through it.

2536
03:37:50,060 --> 03:37:55,180
I know it's 1233 and everybody's probably hungry right now, but it does take a lot to get this work done.

2537
03:37:55,440 --> 03:37:59,380
And so that's off to all of you and keep up the good work. There's anything else.

2538
03:38:00,340 --> 03:38:02,260
Good job, Jim, first of all.

2539
03:38:02,260 --> 03:38:08,980
All right, well with that, we will adjourn. It's 1234. Thank you, thank you.