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everyone
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some reminders please silence your cell
phones

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and please direct all questions through
myself the chair

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speakers all speakers please limit your
time to five minutes

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and let's remember that only one person
can speak at a time

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and we are respectful to everyone even
if you don't agree with what is being

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said please be respectful

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the meeting is called to order we will
have our invocation by our County

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Manager murwad followed by I pledge led
by Evans Martin

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let us pray
father we want to thank you for the the

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blessings we enjoy in our community
thank you for the the rain you sent our

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way recently
Lord we thank you for the the blessings

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of freedom and and Liberty that we enjoy
and the responsibility that you've given

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us we ask for your Justice in our
country and in our County I also ask for

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your mercy and your grace as well and
and lastly we ask for wisdom for this

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board for all the decisions that are
made we ask that they be done in your

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glory and honor in Christ's name amen
amen would everybody please stand and

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face the flag

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thank you
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands

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one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all

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at this time
we will adopt the agenda with the said

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Corrections
item 14 will be deleted

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item 18 a would be the budget amendment
Sheriff's Office Grant

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18 B would be the budget adjustment of
2023 of the Sheriff's Office

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item 20 will be the city of Waynesboro
request

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item 21
approval of agreement with Rollin

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Environmental
and item 22 will be information and

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reports
so

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okay and executive session

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will be item 23.
so can we have an adoption of the agenda

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with the said

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I'm sure I'll make a motion we adopt the
agenda as amended a second

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motion was made by commissioner Nix
second by commissioner Martin that we

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adopt the agenda with the said
Corrections all in favor

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unanimous
we will now have the approval of minutes

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of the meetings on March 14th 16th April
3rd and April 4th

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Madam chair I made a motion recruited
amendments for the meetings on March

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14th 16th April 3rd and April 4th
second

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motion made by commissioner Nick
seconded by commissioner Abrams that we

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approve the minutes of the meetings on
the set dates all in favor

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unanimous
next item is proclamation of National

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Public Safety telecommunications week

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there's a proclamation to be signed and
that week is April 9th through 15th

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2023
whereas emergencies can occur at any

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time that require police fire or
Emergency Medical Services and whereas

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when an emergency occurs The Prompt
response of police officers firefighters

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and EMS is critical to the protection of
life and preservation of property and

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whereas the safety of our police
officers firefighters and EMS is

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dependent upon the quality and accuracy
of information obtained from citizens

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who telephone the Burke County emergency
communications center and whereas Public

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Safety telecommunicators are the first
and most critical contact our citizens

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have with emergency services and whereas
Public Safety telecommunicators are the

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single vital link for our police
officers firefighters and EMS by

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monitoring their activities By Radio
providing them information and ensuring

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their safety and whereas Public Safety
telecommunicators of Burke County

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e911 have contributed substantially
to the apprehension of criminals

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suppression of fires and treatment of
patients and whereas each dispatcher has

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exhibited compassion understanding and
professionalism during the performance

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of their job in the past year
therefore be it resolved that the Burke

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County Board of Commissioners declare
the week of April 9th through April 15

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2023 to be National Public Safety
telecommunicators Week in Burke County

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Georgia in honor of the men and women
whose diligence and professionalism keep

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our city and citizens safe
and this is signed by myself

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uh Merv do we have to have a motion on
this yeah I don't know if you have to

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but I think it'd be very appropriate to
have a motion for the the whole board to

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approve the resolution Madam chairman I
make the motion that we approve the

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proclamation for the national public
safety telecommunicators week I'll

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second it
motion made by commissioner Nick

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seconded by commissioner Martin that we
approved the pop Proclamation for

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National Public Safety telecommunicators
Week all in favor

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unanimous
next we will have a presentation by

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um Madam chair would you like we have
our

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several of our 911 staff if you want to
present that to them we could get a

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picture too okay Lacey bring your group
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well that includes um
Chief Webster your group also

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Chad you coming

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I reckon we're going down

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next on the agenda is presentation by
Annie Higman Blakeney Elementary School

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good evening good evening good evening
good evening Burke County Commissioners

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committee members and guests
one day when I was riding around

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Wednesday with my mom I realized there
were no dog parks or parks with a dog

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area
in our town and that idea let me hear

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today
hi my name is Anna Hickman and I'm a

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fourth grader at blatney elementary I
recently won second place in the

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district co-over Leaf 4-H DPA in Metter
Georgia representing Burke County today

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I'm going to be telling you about my
plan to open a dog park in my hometown

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of Waynesboro Georgia my three main
points are how to organize how to

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propose and how to maintain a dog park
point one organizing

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I could gather up a group of people that
also won a dog park in Waynesboro we

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could share ideas
with each other next we could try ideas

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with other citizens to encourage the
County Commissioners to say yes to my

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dog park idea my mission stem is to
benefit humans dogs and the community by

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the dogs made new dog friends and the
humans meeting new human friends

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for the community it's just a benefit of
it being there

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I can ask
I can ask the County Commissioners to

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have land next to the animal shelter Rec
Department Public Library or near any

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County property
my second point is how to propose

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when I'm ready to open the dog park to
public I will put in safety rules for

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the people to follow further safety as
well as their dogs my goal is to make

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sure they have a fun every time they go
for the budgeting I will let people

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donate for the dog park and I will
recycle things like tires or plastic and

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pop taps
then I will tell Roger dog owner saying

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something like hey if your dog's over 40
pounds they may need to stay away from

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the smaller dogs
I could tell new residents if they have

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a dog or a puppy
saying something like hey if you ever

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need a dog park or if you're trying to
find a dog park you can come to mine

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point three point three maintaining

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now that I have gotten my dog park in
place it has to be maintained what I

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need there to be is a trash bag for the
dog's waist and a waste scooper for the

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bathroom area another step for
development is to make sure people

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family and dogs have fun

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I visited a neat dog park in another
town and it had an area for larger dogs

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over 40 pounds a small area
for dogs under 40 pounds a rocks for the

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dogs to climb on and a wife's trash can
a tunnel for both areas and a wood trip

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area

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and a lot of grass for the dogs to run
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they even had a dog washing station

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my dog Stella inspires me to do this
because still has a larger energy as a

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golden retriever so here's some real
dogs from Burke County and I think they

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made like a fun safe place to play like
a dog park

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so now that we heard my proposal for a
dog park and saw some cute dogs and a

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cat next time you drive around
Waynesboro maybe you'll see a dog park

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and what about better days to proposes
the National Pet Day thank you for

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listening to my proposal today
okay Andy stay right there thank you

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very much for that presentation it takes
a lot of nerve and courage to come

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before a group of grown-ups that uh and
present this to us let's give Annie a

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round of applause

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called you for winning the 4-H District
contest on your presentation so that's

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an accomplishment within itself also so
we are glad and proud of you and how you

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represented Burke County we do see your
proposal we will be looking at your

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proposal but no decisions will be made
as of now but thank you for your

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presentation thank you
thank you

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next item on the agenda rezoning a
parcel

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106.050 B from A1 to CG for sale to
Specialty to Twos for industrial

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applications company
Madam chair as Scott Lee is coming down

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I want to just kind of give you the
overview this is a parcel on Ben let's

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see some Ben Hatcher Road no it's up the
leasefield is on River Road is that

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correct yeah
and they're wanting is wanting to go

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from an egg Zone to commercial General
commercial to do some light

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Manufacturing in that that area Planning
Commission reviewed it recommended

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approval there was no opposition at the
public hearing is that correct

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approve the zoning change
for parcel

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106-050 B from a1cg for the special
tools application I'll second it

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motion made by commissioner next second
by commissioner Martin that we accept

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the rezoning of the said parcel all in
favor

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unanimous
next item rezoning a parcel 106

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a096 conditional use approval for small
facility

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symmetry
Madam chair this one is on on Ben

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Hatcher Road this one
um norzetta Lawrence has requested a

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conditional use approval in an R1 Zone
to put a family cemetery on their

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property
on Ben Hatcher Road Planning Commission

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held a hearing on it
they approved it with the following

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conditions that the Family Cemetery
consists of less than one acre and that

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they provide legal access to the Family
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she owns
this there was no opposition Scott

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okay
and playing they recommended approval

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Madam chairman I make the motion that we
approve the zoning request for

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conditional use on
106.a at zero nine six well we haven't

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done that one it's the next one
no that's it good condition use yeah

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yeah second
motion made by commissioner next second

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by commissioner Lively that we rezoned
the said parcel

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all in favor
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next item rezoning a

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parcel084-007 a from R1 to A1 to combine
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Madam chair this one is a request from
the Marvin Robertson estate there the

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property is currently zoned R1 they want
to combine it with several adjacent

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parcels and put them all as a A1
agriculture Zone industry properties on

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Idlewood Road the Planning Commission
held a hearing there was no opposition

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and Planning Commission recommended
approval of this rezone request

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is there a motion
when I make a motion that we approved of

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zero eight
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from R1 to A1 I'll second it motion made
by commissioner Abram second by

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commissioner Martin that we resume the
set profit parcel all in favor

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unanimous
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five through zero one four from R1 A1 to
R1 to combine with parcels

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Madam chair this one is just in reverse
that the property is currently zoned A1

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they want to combine a part seven tenths
no seven hundredths of an acre of this

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parcel with an adjacent parcel that is
already zoned R1 so they're asking that

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the the board rezone that seven
hundredths of an acre from agriculture

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to low density residential Planning
Commission held a hearing and there was

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no opposition and they recommended
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Ms chairman I make a motion that we
approve no problem Scott right

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okay and this is on Highway 56 near
Midfield okay and uh a property uh zero

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two five Dash zero one four from A1 to
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Madam chair I'll say promotion
motion made by commissioner Abram Second

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Bank commissioner Nix that we resume the
said property all in favor

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unanimous
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zero
two zero zero one seven G from R1 to A1

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to combine with parcels
Madam chair this request comes from

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Charles Daniels they're they're asking
to go from R1 low density residential to

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A1 so they can combine with an adjacent
parcel they will they want to put the

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parcels together and replant it as one
but they have to wait till the um the

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kuva Covenant is expired on both of them
which I think is another year or so

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Planning Commission held the public
hearing there is no opposition and the

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Planning Commission recommended approval
this channel down another discussion

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later we approved zero two

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zero-017g from R1 to A1
Madam chair I second the motion

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motion made by commissioner Abram second
by commissioner Nix that we rezone the

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said parcel all in favor

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unanimous
next rezoning item rezoning a

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parcel075-011 from R1 to A1 to combine
with another parcels

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this Madam chair this one is a request
from Janine Lauren they want to rezone a

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parcel that's currently zoned R1
residential to agriculture it's located

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at the corner of Porter Carswell Road
and Rackley Road where they come

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together it's a little point right there
the rest of the property is zoned to

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agriculture so they would like to have
the whole parcel zoned as as agriculture

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as one unit Planning Commission held a
public hearing there was no opposition

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and they recommended approval of this
rezone

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Madam chairman I'll make a motion we
read for the rezoning of partial zero

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seven
five-011 from R1 to A1 now second

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motion made by commissioner Lively
second by commissioner Martin that we

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rezoned the said Parcels all in favor
unanimous

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next we will have the bid opening first
one the motor grader Road Department

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we have two bids on the motor grader

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first bit is from Dobbs equipment
company out of Grovetown

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their bid for a new motor grader is
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756 dollars
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279 thousand
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what kind of motor
it is a John Deere

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John Deere thank you
next bid is from Yancey Brothers

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equipment

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they're
bid and this Yancey Brothers in Augusta

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their bid is 320
000 even

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320 even
they say they've got it in stock in

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Augusta

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thank you
that's all

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all the bids on the motor grader
if you like I go ahead to the bids on

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the
the culvert pipe

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three o'clock for the finance committee
meeting

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all right the next bit is the culvert
pipe

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for several locations we've got uh
pipe we've only got one bid it's from

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Cherokee culvert

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and we've got bid for Quaker Road
Project that's 16 853

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a bid for Middle Ground Road replacement
of the Culvert there and that's 30

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135 dollars
and Butler Mill Road uh 14 664.

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the total price on the three uh
Replacements or the the pipe for the

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three Replacements is 61 652.
61 652.

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that's better I wish we had gotten some
more bids but that's better than I

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expected it to be
okay all right thank you

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next item on the agenda proposal of low
cost spay neuter options the animal

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services all right
I'm going to let Mr Parish uh tell us

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about this proposal

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they could even I won't be long
um

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oh
there you go

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I was a couple years ago I had mentioned
uh to County Manager Merv uh Walter that

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we were looking at doing local spay and
neuter and since we were first starting

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up we had the funds and we budgeted it
for funds and worked things out to where

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we can provide that at free of cost to
the public uh just like with everything

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else
um over the past couple years prices

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have greatly increase so we were not
able to get a spay and neutering done at

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the discounted rate that we were so
doing that time frame I immediately

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stopped doing spay and new to vouchers
to the public so we can try to figure

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out a different option
um speaking with multiple different

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other counties and different rescue
groups around the area what they've been

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doing have been seeing a success is
offering a low a low-cost spay and

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neuter services such as as offering
vouchers of say between forty five

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dollars six dollars just depending on
what the animal is and what the cost of

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the surgery is and then that
organization or that county has been

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picking up the remaining part of the
bill so either way so they're still

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offering an option for low-cost spay and
neuter but they're also taking that

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person that's owned owning the animal
and having them invest a little bit into

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it also after speaking with Mark with
Michael with the finance department uh

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you mentioned that that could be
possible as a public-private partnership

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so I want to present that to you guys to
see if that would be an option for

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animal services to to continue to allow
citizens to have an option for a

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low-cost spay and neuter
uh we currently still have the funds

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within our Professional Services budget
that we uh during the budget every year

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for a spay and neuter

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clarify already I'm going to ask some
questions because to make sure I

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understand so in the in the past we have
paid 100 of the cost of spay and neuter

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and it was intended for those
um pet owners who couldn't afford to

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have their their animals spayed or
neutered we found out that just through

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not you know there were a lot of people
who probably could afford it that took

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advantage of the spay and neuter program
and then the funds ran out and then the

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people who truly needed it didn't the
money wasn't there and then now the

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prices have gone up and it's much more
right now the funds are still there and

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we still have enough funds to continue
and with the prices of the services that

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I've looked into
um

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generally if we so whatever you guys
want to set the price to let's say if

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it's 45 55 60 whatever per voucher It
generally still what we would actually

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pay now compared to what the offset
price is will now be back generally to

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what we were originally playing paying
excuse me

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um now we also offer offer free spand
and neuter for any animal that is

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adopted through us so we'll still get
those prices at the same discounted rate

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but uh any animal that's already
previously owned by somebody and they

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come and say hey which I have two dogs
or whatever

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um can you guys help me out on spay and
neutral services so generally what we

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were doing at the time of doing the
vouchers and now we're saying okay all

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right well how about you become a little
bit Financial invested into it this is

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your animal you had it for a while
we shouldn't have to generally eat the

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entire cost of it so we would provide a
voucher to the individual to take to the

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vet yes and then the vet would would it
would still send us the entire bill but

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but we already have the
funds for them purchasing the voucher

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so they would they would pay the the vet
directly and then we would pay when the

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vet gave us the voucher back yeah they
would pay us directly uh all right so

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whoever wanted to spend the bachelor
would pay us the cost so to spay and

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nude about you so we would take that
money which I made deposits to Michael

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on a daily basis
um and then the vet would still just go

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and send us the bill so we already have
the funds that they've uh uh that they

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purchased the spay and neuter voucher
for so we already have that

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so is it a certain percentage that the
the animal owner pays and then the

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voucher pays for the other part so so
they would pay whatever price that you

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guys set forth on the voucher a lot of
people are doing anywhere between forty

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five dollars sixty dollars per voucher
and then that organizational that

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government has been paying the remaining
cost of it okay so then the now I'm

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understanding exactly so we would the
the pet owner would come and pay the

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county yes we pay the county 45 or 60
whatever the fee is for a voucher they

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would take that voucher and get their
pet spayed or neutered yes and then the

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vet would then send us the actual bill
whatever the difference yeah it would

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send us that bill on the monthly basis
okay

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so what's the average cost now for a dog
and a cat

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so generally the average cost is safe
for a

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yes a lot of procedures now is going by
the actual waiter adult so there's a

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range so let's say on the low end for
adult to get spayed let's say if it's

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anywhere anywhere between two pounds to
49 pounds generally the average cost of

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about 137 dollars

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and then anywhere between the 50 to 99
pound dog you're looking at 170 and then

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100 pounds plus you're looking at 200 at
uh 203 dollars

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that's generally about an average
um and for a cat for a cat generally

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calls for a cat spell you're looking at
about 137 and for a cat neuter you're

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right at 115.

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yeah so my recommendation would be to
kind of set it out of the middle

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middle-ish or say if you guys want to
say that a dog

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um spay voucher is going to be higher
than adult new to voucher or vice versa

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however you guys want to set it I plug
it in

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we'll go from there
why don't we put a program together I

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think from what I can tell there's some
general interest put it together as part

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of our budget proposal we're about to
start the budget process and have it

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ready for implementation October 1.
sounds good to me is that okay with the

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and we'll we'll work out the particulars
and bring back a specific proposal

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do that anyway
okay thank you thank you all right thank

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you

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next item is acceptance of the canine
donation from canines of Valor

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Foundation
Sheriff's Office

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we have been notified that the the
canines of Valor foundations donated a

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canine
Officer a dog named Cooper to be

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provided to Burke County Sheriff's
Office the county would have to um would

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I guess take possession put provide
insurance

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um the there's going to be expense of
feed and vet bills that are in I'm

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assuming the dog's already been fully
trained there's no extra training needed

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yeah go ahead

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to retire the one doll because of the
medical issues that it had so uh back in

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January we applied and with other law
enforcement agencies Across the Nation

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and were interviewed by canine Valor to
they interviewed the Handler that we

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chose they interviewed uh Command Staff
and other people within the agency and

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they offered us the canine and that not
only comes with so you're talking about

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vet bills so canine Valor Christina with
canine Valor they're actually whatever

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vet of our choosing they're going to put
their credit card on there and handle

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all the vet bills so so the dog comes
it's a Narcotics uh detection dog and

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it's also a tracking dog so we're not
going to use apprehension so it's not

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going to be a bite work dog it's
strictly if we're using for Narcotics

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work and for tracking for suspects
missing people missing kids so it came

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with the dog she also provided a kennel
and has sent the kennel to the Handler's

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house she sent the crate to the
Handler's house and it came with the

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Handler training so the only thing that
we're going to have to do is typically

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we did it before we did it through the
stipend through the Handler and that

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would he would use that to help pay for
the food so that would be the food cost

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and then the insurance costs so that
would be the only cost that we have so

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it's about a 25 000 by the time you do
the dog to Handler training and

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everything that they're giving us so
what kind of dog is it what's that what

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kind of dog is it it's a lab a lab yep
didn't I see another dog

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that's a mouse so we've always had two
dogs and that one will be the same thing

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and that's completely donated that one's
completely donated by quality canine

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Concepts in Thompson with Matt Hammond
okay

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the one thing just
to remind everybody to stay within

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budget and knowing that there's some
budget issues related just be careful to

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keep all the expenses within the total
budget of the Sheriff's Office yeah so

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we try to do it this way so we didn't
have any other costs because we were

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going to go another route and it would
have cost twelve thousand dollars just

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for a dog but trying to apply for these
things and able to get it through this

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process is is a whole lot better than
costing anybody a whole bunch of money

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so

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The Madam chair I make the motion that
we accept the canine donation from The

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Valor Foundation our second
motion made by commissioner next second

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by commissioner Abrams that we accept
the K-9 donation from The Valor

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Foundation all in favor
unanimous

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next item
18 Alpha a budget amendment Sheriff's

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Office Grant
and Merv can you go over there because

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we okay Michael yes okay Madam chair uh
last month the board approved or

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accepted a grant from Department of
Justice through and I can't remember

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this the
particular Foundation

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but the grant was for a crime analyst
and it's one of the

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the most of the expense of the grant
would be Personnel costs and it'd be a

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small amount for a computer and for
software for the the new employee

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the budget amendment it reflects what
was in the grant proposal that was

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submitted to us last month
there's yeah as of

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Friday this was perfect
Monday morning we have a new employee in

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that that's
certainly was signed up to be on the

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payroll but the salary is going to be
higher than what this budget amendment

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would support so that is an area of
concern

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if we continue with the salary that was
presented for the budget Analyst at like

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23 and and some change per hour then the
money will not last the full two years

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of the grant so there's um it needs to
be some discussion before we go too much

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further so this budget amendment doesn't
act will not accurately reflect the

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current situation because the salaries
are going to be higher than than what

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this proposes
so so the current

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for the budget we got would be 1947
hours that correct uh that sounds

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probably that's right yeah we figured
out but the salary in order to stay

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within budget and the employee not take
health insurance would need to be forty

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thousand five hundred that's that's
correct and then that works out the 19

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and I think 47 cents per hour that's
with no insurance with no health

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insurance we still had to provide life
insurance and I think we and work

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yourself right that's correct workers
comp retirement that's correct well I

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know the sheriff ain't here tonight but
when we talked about this last meeting

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he assured that it would only be for
what the budget amount was

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and then he comes back with something
higher that's not in in that amount

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closed amount per hour I'm sorry
23.48 per hour

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and so the the bottom line will be
approximately ten thousand dollars over

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per year so we'll need an additional
twenty thousand dollars for the two-year

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period

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the grant was for a hundred thousand
that's correct two years right for two

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years correct

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and that included
salary and benefits right that's right

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that would includes salary and benefits
and computer

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so the if if we continue with the salary
at

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what was it
23 48 then the funds would run out about

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a year and a half into the grant program

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we got a comment
anybody from the Sheriff's Office

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yeah so right even considering that
because I think what you and I talked

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about was a a certain level but
when we got the personal action form it

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was higher than that so all right when
um Michael calculated out what it would

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what that
um Grant could support without the

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employee taking benefits and it was
forty thousand five hundred maximum for

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salary That's not including if that's
assuming no overtime either but then

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when the Personnel action form came up
month yesterday

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it was at a much at a higher rate that
would not stay within the grant funds so

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it's um
and anyway we're pointing out that

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there's a discrepancy let y'all figure
out how to handle which how you want to

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solve it you can say the when the grant
Runs Out in a year and a half is over

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and that's done or that you go back and
refigure the salary to make it last two

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years or the last meeting the sheriff
assured that it would only be

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what the grant was covered for so which
is 1947 hour minus health insurance

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so either we need to table it till we
talk with the sheriff or either we need

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to

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pass it with the 1947. it is my is my
take on it

441
00:41:25,859 --> 00:41:31,140
well it was certainly he did say that
and certainly for two years is there any

442
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,460
I mean there's no way if we if we sign
up for this we can't fire this person

443
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:40,020
this lady in a year and a half so we
need to again I think I agree the table

444
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,220
it or or deny the Grant I mean I hate to
take to not take money that we can get

445
00:41:42,359 --> 00:41:48,500
but if it's not going to be what we
agreed on last month we got to come up

446
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:54,540
with a different plan don't we
one issue is that it's my understanding

447
00:41:52,020 --> 00:42:01,260
that she's already started working
and so that there's going to be whatever

448
00:41:58,260 --> 00:42:04,800
hours she's worked and
um unless she agrees to a lesser pay

449
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:11,839
then
she started working at 23.48

450
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,839
as of yesterday

451
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:19,560
until we started working forward Miss
chairman

452
00:42:17,579 --> 00:42:25,500
um I I don't think it's a perfect place
to do this why don't let's um

453
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,880
um just meet with the chef and see if we
can come up with

454
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:34,440
uh that's my way I think in the meantime
do we add can add this person to the

455
00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:39,660
payroll or or not we don't have a place
to charge it without a budget amendment

456
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:45,060
because it's going to be as part of in
the grants fund small grants fund

457
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:48,780
and this was if if the salary had been
what we had all agreed to then this

458
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:51,260
budget meant what would cover everything
would be

459
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,119
it's Federal grant money so we got to be
careful how we use it as well

460
00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:08,700
any other recommendations
one is the table

461
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:14,599
other she's already been hired right
she's already to start at work right

462
00:43:10,859 --> 00:43:14,599
that's my understanding I don't know

463
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:20,400
that's what I thought she came in
yesterday to sign up for payroll

464
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:23,660
and we had and it was that's when we
realized that there was an issue

465
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:33,060
yeah so did she know what this I guess
only the sheriff would know this

466
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:39,740
um that it only lasts for two years but
now it's possibly this the money will

467
00:43:36,359 --> 00:43:39,740
run out in a year and a half

468
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:51,060
well like I said the last meeting I mean
he he assured us it would

469
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:56,880
would be within this budget and you know
obviously it's not

470
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,880
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471
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:08,099
and and you got to go to full or two
years in order to satisfy the grain

472
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:12,900
legally
there

473
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:16,920
for them we didn't see it that way there
wasn't a requirement that we saw when we

474
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:19,980
looked over it after talking with the
manager that you have to keep them on

475
00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:22,920
for two years
ago

476
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:26,940
but this board doesn't have the
authority to hire or fire for the

477
00:44:24,839 --> 00:44:30,660
sheriff's department so if we approve
this as a budget line from a grant then

478
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:35,760
we'll all be on the hook for them so
what what would happen

479
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:39,900
basically is is trying to look into a
murky crystal ball you'd have the money

480
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,980
run out to play them to pay the employee
in about a year and a half back to fund

481
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,160
the calculations that have been said and
then that part that employed there will

482
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:50,520
be no money in that part of the
insurance budget to pay that employee

483
00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:55,200
that employee would have to be paid on
the insurance other funds if he had any

484
00:44:52,800 --> 00:45:00,420
to pay just as a regular employee if he
kept them on or or yeah if he kept or

485
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:03,200
let them or or yeah or not have that
position any longer

486
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:09,540
but everything the administrator the
manager said and Michael said earlier we

487
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:13,619
looked into it we agreed with everything
they said

488
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:19,040
well I think I think we need a table and
talk to the sheriff and see if he's in

489
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,040
agreement with when the money Runs Out

490
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:25,800
I mean
yeah

491
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,579
if the contract
stated that it wasn't locked into two

492
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:33,839
years
we did not see that we when we when we

493
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,800
were informed of the problem this
morning and then we talked to manager

494
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:42,000
about we that was my first concern that
we were locking ourselves into a

495
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:46,560
two-year guaran a two-year commitment we
were because this this this contract is

496
00:45:44,579 --> 00:45:51,060
y'all right only the sheriff can employ
this person but you all have to approve

497
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:57,240
it and so we specifically look for that
we saw no requirements that they have to

498
00:45:53,520 --> 00:46:00,839
stay the full two years in this position
which turns it back over to in a year

499
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:04,680
and a half the money on the line item to
pay this person for the grant will run

500
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:07,079
out according to the calculations and
then the sheriff's got a decision to

501
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,339
make he's going to have to bring that
person known as a regular employee

502
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:15,660
out of existing funds if he's going to
keep that person on

503
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:17,780
unless it's another grant that comes
along

504
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:27,660
rather than to let the money go back why
don't let's just uh

505
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:31,980
make the agreement where that uh until
the money run out

506
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:35,160
we need him here to make that agreement
because he made the agreement last

507
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,260
meeting
and he was going to stay within the

508
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:39,260
budget on it

509
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:45,660
well that's no big deal we can take an
um

510
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:52,319
he's not out the country no way so we
can saw this one day next week when is

511
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:56,640
payroll uh we're doing payroll payroll
this week but this is

512
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:01,920
since she started this week it's two
weeks before she would be on the we'd

513
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:06,839
have to cut a check for this one for
this employee

514
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:09,020
but can we get that's great one day next
week

515
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:20,280
let us know if you're going to uh agree
with the uh as long as the money run out

516
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:25,500
or you can make a motion that the money
Runs Out is over or you can make a

517
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:33,480
motion that that you're going to stick
with what was proposed at the last month

518
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:39,900
and those basically two options are the
the maximum forty thousand five hundred

519
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:44,940
or the you're going to pay what they
said to pay and then the money is going

520
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:49,079
to run out and it's that's it well I'll
make a motion do we go

521
00:47:46,619 --> 00:47:52,700
by what he said last month that he was
going to stay within the hundred

522
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:57,040
thousand dollar budget which will be
1947 mile

523
00:47:55,380 --> 00:48:01,200
second
[Music]

524
00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:11,780
motion made by commissioner Martin
second by commissioner Lively that we

525
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:11,780
stay within the 1947 all in favor

526
00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:21,300
to to in favor
okay can we get a another motion

527
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:27,300
that
the sheriff has decided to pay her 23

528
00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:31,260
48 an hour
and when the money Runs Out in a year

529
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,220
and a half
that's it

530
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:43,980
I'm in favor and it's part of the
discussion on that motion that you would

531
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:49,380
include the subsequent budget amendment
that we'll have to work that up but it's

532
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:53,460
if that's what the board decides the
thing you want to do you haven't taken

533
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:58,680
the vote yet we'll follow up with that
Mo that motion would include the budget

534
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:03,480
amendment to allow it to pay
well this budget amendment covers that

535
00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:09,000
until it runs out well that's true it's
it doesn't make

536
00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:13,200
may not have enough salary but um it
would get us through this fiscal year

537
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,800
it'd be sufficient for the for this year
then we can correct it in the fall the

538
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,980
next fiscal Year's budget would be
different

539
00:49:19,099 --> 00:49:28,020
okay motion to amend the budget with the
said information

540
00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:35,099
motion made by commissioner Nix second
by commissioner Abrams all in favor

541
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,460
three all opposed
to

542
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:45,119
so y'all gonna y'all want to be certain
that next year when the money runs out

543
00:49:43,319 --> 00:49:49,140
y'all want to be sure let's remember
that what we stuck to what y'all stuck

544
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:54,359
to because we have a short memory
sometimes okay we will and Kathleen

545
00:49:51,359 --> 00:50:02,579
please put in the minutes thank you
okay next item uh budget adjustment

546
00:49:59,819 --> 00:50:07,079
share so all right Madam chair the the
finance committee made a motion a couple

547
00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:11,579
months ago
um asking for the Sheriff's Office to

548
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:16,859
provide a budget amendment so they could
pay the inmate medical expenses the

549
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:21,780
sheriff's offices this week has
submitted us a budget amendment moving a

550
00:50:19,319 --> 00:50:27,300
hundred thousand out of health insurance
and moving that into the Professional

551
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,260
Services for inmate medical and so we
need to approval of that budget

552
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:35,940
amendment it was an extra hundred
thousand angle need in health insurance

553
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:39,599
that's um because of fewer employees I'm
not sure exactly why but we've we've

554
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,680
checked and at the rate they're going
they're not going to need that hundred

555
00:50:40,859 --> 00:50:49,140
thousand Mr chairman I saw a move
I'll second a motion Madam chair

556
00:50:46,619 --> 00:50:55,500
motion made by commissioner Abram second
by commissioner Nix that we accept the

557
00:50:53,160 --> 00:51:01,400
budget adjustment from the sheriff's
department all in favor

558
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,400
you now

559
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:11,040
next item approval of a resolution for
new opioid settlements

560
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:15,720
Madam chair is you and the Commissioners
know you voted a couple years back to

561
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:20,520
participate as a County as well as most
counties if not all counties in Georgia

562
00:51:17,339 --> 00:51:23,880
did in a lawsuit against the the
pharmaceutical companies that produced

563
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:27,839
the opioids because there was evidence
that they knew that basically there was

564
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:32,220
an epidemic going on that was over
prescribing going on and maybe even some

565
00:51:29,819 --> 00:51:37,859
misinformation to some of the Physicians
as far as the danger of The Addictive

566
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:42,420
problem with the drugs that end result
cost County governments city government

567
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:47,940
state governments a lot of money with
overdoses ambulances to deal with at

568
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:51,720
hospitals and so forth and so on the
county has received in the settlements

569
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:56,280
that occurred against the pharmaceutical
companies and the fifty four thousand

570
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,900
dollar range is your percentage of all
the local governments in the nation that

571
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:06,240
receive money from that there is a
second round of lawsuits in that dealing

572
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:10,680
with the people who filled those
prescriptions the Walmarts the Walgreens

573
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:15,960
the CVS's and what things they could
have could have not done to improve the

574
00:52:14,099 --> 00:52:21,599
problem that occurred what was their
role in all that those companies as a

575
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:25,980
group have already settled that and
there's a judge has set aside a pot of

576
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:29,220
money for the cities and counties Across
the Nation to share in it'll probably be

577
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:33,420
smaller than what you've already
received but whereas the first decision

578
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:37,079
you had to make to participate you had
to think about and talk about it this is

579
00:52:35,579 --> 00:52:40,500
all done the money's just sitting there
you just got to decide if you want your

580
00:52:38,339 --> 00:52:44,160
share or not but you will need to vote
to allow the chair to sign a resolution

581
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,180
to allow you to join in with other
cities and counties to collect the share

582
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:52,800
that Burke County would be due of the
resolution of the settlement with the

583
00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:58,020
performance with the um the the the
retailers that fill the prescriptions

584
00:52:54,839 --> 00:53:02,160
does that make sense manager it does no
matter chairman I make the motion that

585
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:05,579
we approve the resolution authorizing
you to sign

586
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:10,859
for the
settlement funds for the second opioid

587
00:53:08,819 --> 00:53:14,099
settlement
second

588
00:53:12,359 --> 00:53:20,040
motion made by commissioner Nick
seconded by commissioner Abrams giving

589
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:27,119
me permission to sign the resolution for
the new Opera settlement all in favor

590
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,720
you know Madam chair I just want to add
that I was skeptical when we first went

591
00:53:29,099 --> 00:53:37,200
into this whether we would get anything
out of it but um it's provided already

592
00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:42,720
54 000 that we can use for training for
First Responders so I think it's a good

593
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:48,680
good move to participate thank you
thank you

594
00:53:45,059 --> 00:53:48,680
okay next item um

595
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:56,760
can that money be used to buy like
Narcan and stuff like that or just I

596
00:53:54,300 --> 00:54:01,760
believe we could yes anything dealing
with medical

597
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,760
type stuff like that yes

598
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:13,260
okay next item on the agenda city of
Waynesboro request wherever you're going

599
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:18,720
to say it is we had um let's see if I
can find my letter we had a request from

600
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:24,720
the city of Waynesboro on there and sit
the mayor and Council asking the County

601
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:29,520
commission for a meeting and also to
consider working Contracting with the

602
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:34,200
city to do
um curbside service within the city

603
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:38,040
limits and so I think everybody's had a
copy of the letter

604
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:43,819
we have
just as background for the public

605
00:54:40,619 --> 00:54:49,020
the board one we've been talking about
curbside for several years and have had

606
00:54:47,220 --> 00:54:51,540
meetings with all each of the Cities
invited the cities throughout the

607
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:58,260
process
we put out a bid that any anybody could

608
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,260
have bid on the proposal
um

609
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:06,059
several companies bid on the city could
have been that but it might have been

610
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:12,000
difficult to do curbside county-wide but
we we did it with a price

611
00:55:08,579 --> 00:55:16,740
to do the entire County including all
the cities but we we knew that

612
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:20,880
Waynesboro was skeptical so we did a
price with all the cities except

613
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:26,460
Waynesburg the mayors of the other
cities and the council have told us they

614
00:55:22,619 --> 00:55:32,280
they want to participate so the contract
that we've been working toward is a

615
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:37,920
contract that includes curbside garbage
pickup throughout the county except in

616
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:42,839
Waynesboro that we could include them in
that contract with Rylan if they elect

617
00:55:40,859 --> 00:55:47,839
to but so far they have told us they
didn't want to to participate with Rylan

618
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:59,599
okay any
questions or comments concerning uh the

619
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,599
letter from the city of Waynesboro

620
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:05,960
okay
no action taken

621
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:14,880
next item
approval of agreement with violent

622
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:20,220
environmental for solid waste collection
services

623
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:24,720
and Madam chair we have on your desk we
have the the final version at least I

624
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:30,000
hope it's the final version of the
Contra Mr Lanier and I've been back and

625
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:34,520
forth on on this and this I think that's
that's healthy for us to do we took a

626
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:39,839
model contract in both
revise it throughout the latest one the

627
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:45,900
only changes are related to the time
frames and I think Mr Lanier wanted a

628
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:51,599
seven year I wanted a five-year contract
so we've got the initial term would be

629
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:56,460
five years and nine months to run out as
of

630
00:56:53,420 --> 00:57:01,440
September 30th uh I forget the first
year so that it matches with our fiscal

631
00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:06,240
year and and thereafter at the board
elects they could renew the contract for

632
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:12,240
five-year terms expiring on September
30th

633
00:57:08,339 --> 00:57:18,119
um the the rate for is the same as what
was in The Proposal that was submitted

634
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:23,940
to us there is a fuel escalation charge
that's on the last page

635
00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:28,800
if fuel goes up there'd be an escalation
do you have any questions and um

636
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:32,059
try to answer them and miscellaneer is
here to answer to

637
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:41,359
um Mr Lanier can you kind of elaborate
some on this fuel escalation

638
00:57:45,619 --> 00:57:53,940
yes ma'am first off thank you guys for
allowing me to come and and have this

639
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,000
discussion as Mr Waldrop said it's
healthy to have dialogue back into when

640
00:57:55,559 --> 00:58:00,599
you work in a contract because the only
contract is good is when both parties

641
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:04,140
are satisfied with it and so we try to
make sure we're doing that the fuel

642
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:08,819
escalators you see that we attached in
there was put in our proposal when we

643
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:12,180
initially put it out as we all know
we've had unprecedented times in the

644
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:16,920
last couple of years with diesel fuel
going up to six dollars a gallon and so

645
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:22,440
what we did is we came up with a
graduated fuel escalator so fuel prices

646
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:28,680
go up we have the percentage there is no
surprise it makes budgeting a lot easier

647
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:33,240
for Mr Waltrip to do budget amendments
or whatever if that may be we're praying

648
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:37,260
that fuel stays down it's been trending
that way uh but you know when it went to

649
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:42,480
six dollars a gallon last year we all
scrambled so we wanted to be fair and

650
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:46,740
our fuel escalator outlines the exact
percentage of what our rate will go up

651
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,760
as the fuel escalates but it also States
in there that once it goes back to what

652
00:58:48,839 --> 00:58:55,200
our base rate is is what we perform at
our contract at it goes away so it's not

653
00:58:53,880 --> 00:59:00,720
something that we just stick on there
and stay on there because uh we've got

654
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:04,020
to be we we got to have the trust of the
county and the County's got to have our

655
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:07,319
trust as well so we can make this thing
work the right way so we want to be fair

656
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:10,380
and transparent with it as we go along
and that's why we put that escalation

657
00:59:08,819 --> 00:59:15,480
table in there
what's your current fuel base rate uh

658
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:18,599
our fuel brace rate right now is 350 a
gallon

659
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:23,160
and so I think our fuel escalator starts
at four dollars because as it jumps up

660
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:28,380
50 cents a gallon that's where that's
basically what our our thresholds are

661
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,799
and and what we do is we don't go by the
East Coast average like a lot of other

662
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:36,000
people do we go by what the pump on the
street is so what we're paying in

663
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:39,839
Waynesboro is what we pay for fuel what
we use our escalator not for what

664
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:45,540
they're paying in New York or Newark or
wherever else they may be so we also use

665
00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:51,420
that and it outlines our local things
thank you

666
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:55,859
and I know our country says to start no
later than January 2nd and we're kind of

667
00:59:54,359 --> 00:59:59,700
being optimistic maybe you could get
started sooner yes sir yes and we do

668
00:59:58,140 --> 01:00:03,839
have a lot of I mean
between the two of us a lot of work

669
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:07,500
public relations as well but inform the
public well this is the first step in

670
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,299
the process once we get our contract
signed we can present it to our lenders

671
01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:16,619
so we can actually I've got equipment on
order but now we can get that process

672
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:20,880
started we can get carts being produced
we can put that leg work in and start

673
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:24,599
moving toward that it's going to be a
big process especially with the 10

674
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:28,440
collection centers that were you know
requested we've got to cite those

675
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,799
centers we've got to put that that in
place

676
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:35,160
but what I think will happen is and this
is something that we'll go into in

677
01:00:33,299 --> 01:00:38,940
discussions I think the curbside piece
is the first piece that needs to come in

678
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:42,240
play and then we'll cite the centers as
we go

679
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:45,720
uh and and that way we can graduate to
see how many we need if we do need 10

680
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:50,160
that's great we'll put 10 in we're
prepared to do 10 but if we see curbside

681
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:53,819
is working and we only need five or six
or seven or whatever then we have that

682
01:00:52,200 --> 01:01:01,980
flexibility to change those and move
them as we go I actually had lunch

683
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:05,700
uh last Thursday with a vendor uh for
some equipment that we'll be using in

684
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:09,599
the collection centers which I think
will make things a lot easier and a lot

685
01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:13,200
more efficient for us as well so we've
already started that process and we just

686
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:17,720
uh we're just at this point now to where
we can you know this is the meat and

687
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:17,720
potatoes of the deal

688
01:01:17,819 --> 01:01:29,760
you also said initially in your
presentations that you would conduct

689
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:34,260
educational sessions to the community so
when is data projected well that's what

690
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,559
we'll once we get the contract signed
we'll set a calendar what I like to do

691
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:43,200
is put an implementation timeline in
front of you guys and so once we get set

692
01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:47,040
dates we can hit our marks uh this young
lady's presentation earlier tonight that

693
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:51,000
that's where it's key for us to start at
we've got to start educating in the

694
01:01:49,319 --> 01:01:55,140
schools we've got to educate in the
local churches we've got to educate all

695
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,140
over the place well you know if you have
a community fire meeting or something

696
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:03,839
where you have volunteer fire department
we need to be there to answer any

697
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:09,000
questions and make it as accessible to
the public as possible because this is a

698
01:02:05,579 --> 01:02:12,720
change uh it's a I think it'll be a
Monumental change for Burke County and I

699
01:02:10,619 --> 01:02:16,980
think it'll be great for us but we want
to give that message out uh we learned a

700
01:02:15,059 --> 01:02:21,000
valuable lesson when we took over Macon
and Bibb County that you can't over

701
01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:25,200
communicate we did everything we
possibly could as a matter of fact our

702
01:02:23,099 --> 01:02:30,480
communication plan won national awards
for uh public relations people we were

703
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:34,380
on awards for swanna we we take that
education piece seriously because we

704
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,339
want everybody to be comfortable with
what we're doing and understand the

705
01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:42,059
process as we go so to answer your
question as soon as we get this contract

706
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:46,200
signed we're going to start putting that
education piece together probably at

707
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:50,700
your next meeting I'll submit a timeline
to you for approval and outline some of

708
01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:54,359
those meetings on that timeline okay
Miss Morris did you had your hand have

709
01:02:52,859 --> 01:02:58,099
your hand if somebody had their hand up
okay Mr Mark okay

710
01:02:59,579 --> 01:03:07,140
uh
we all pay through the County's gonna

711
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:12,240
it won't it won't be billed to the
customer well the one exception was if

712
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:17,839
folks got the second cart it would be
ten dollars each to the customer if they

713
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,839
got a second poly cart

714
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:24,900
but the basic curbside would not be
charged to the customer and it was

715
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:28,559
actually going to be cheaper than what
we're paying now for the system we have

716
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:33,980
now we're already paying for it in our
property taxes paying more than what

717
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,980
this would cost us

718
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:37,220
once a week

719
01:03:38,099 --> 01:03:41,059
yes that's right

720
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:47,819
well I'll tell you we picked up garbage
in Ware County Georgia so if I can get

721
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,780
them to go Okefenokee Swamp I'm getting
Waynesboro I promise

722
01:03:53,180 --> 01:04:00,599
well to be honest with you the size of
the card is 96 gallons and most of us I

723
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,839
mean I'm from Miller we all country
folks we have a 55 gallon drone in the

724
01:04:02,819 --> 01:04:07,980
backyard
and you got almost twice that capacity

725
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:11,400
in that car it'll hold a lot more than
you really think it would uh and the

726
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:15,240
beauty of it is the county had the
foresight to put collection centers in

727
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:19,260
play as well so in the events you don't
have that opportunity if that cart's

728
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,500
filled up if you have a family reunion
or like I have a big family we just had

729
01:04:21,059 --> 01:04:27,240
a Easter get together it was a lot of
trash because we had a lot of folks and

730
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:31,200
so those kind of things number one
if it's something that happens like a

731
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:35,819
death in the family or or something like
that give us a call we'll help we'll

732
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:39,599
accommodate that we'll come out and
bring an extra car we'll do extra pickup

733
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:43,079
whatever we need to do because that's
part of being part of the community

734
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,720
but if it's on a regular basis you may
want to look at getting a second cart

735
01:04:44,220 --> 01:04:51,599
because we have a lot of folks that have
second cars and so but like Mr Waldrop

736
01:04:48,839 --> 01:04:54,900
said and commissioner Nick said when we
looked at the budget numbers this is

737
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:59,640
when we started pre-covered when we
started doing these things uh

738
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:03,240
it's actually going to save the county a
considerable amount of money

739
01:05:01,260 --> 01:05:07,680
over what they're paying now their
budget now is for solid waste pickup and

740
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:11,220
I I said this in our last meeting and
I'll tell you again we implemented

741
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,420
curbside collection in Troutman County
Georgia

742
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:19,740
been a year and a half I had a
commissioner meeting in January

743
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:23,640
we pull the numbers for the last year
that the county did the collection which

744
01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:26,700
they had open green boxes just like we
have here

745
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:31,619
a lot of counties around them
had access to those green boxes without

746
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:39,359
any encumbrances
they they deposit about 30 000 tons of

747
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:43,859
garbage in the Toons County landfill
one year later curbside implemented all

748
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:52,020
the dumpsters are gone
we took 15 160 tons of garbage into the

749
01:05:48,299 --> 01:05:56,460
Toons County so twice the garbage
that we picked up at the house each

750
01:05:53,819 --> 01:06:01,260
month each was was coming from outside
the county and other and County Citizens

751
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:05,220
were subsidizing that waste disposal for
other counties and so this is this is

752
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:10,440
what we talked about and what we've done
many times and I think

753
01:06:08,099 --> 01:06:13,859
once you get over the initial shop I
mean like I said I'm used to a 55 gallon

754
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,920
drum in the backyard I'll go out there
and burn it well times have changed we

755
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:22,920
can't do that anymore
so once we get over that initial shot

756
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:27,180
and we're going to show you examples of
you know in our literature and in our

757
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:33,119
education pieces of communities where it
works at uh one of the presentations I

758
01:06:30,539 --> 01:06:37,140
made to the County Commissioners was one
of the counties we do business with is

759
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:41,760
Appling County Appling County closely
mirrors Burke County not quite as big

760
01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:46,740
because it has a river that runs across
as a nuclear plant a lot of the same

761
01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:50,940
idiosyncrasies that you would think are
going on in Burke County going in Akron

762
01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:54,740
County we picked that up successfully
and have been for four years now

763
01:06:56,099 --> 01:06:58,880
yes ma'am

764
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,359
no man
no man

765
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:13,740
I just I just unless you have a huge
family I don't I don't think you're

766
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:20,059
gonna I think you'll see that that one
card will suffice once a week pick up

767
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,059
yes

768
01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:34,740
well that's something that the county
and I work together on and identify

769
01:07:31,799 --> 01:07:37,859
my idea would be based on commissioner
districts

770
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:42,780
um commissioner Abrams district has the
largest District so obviously he would

771
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:45,900
need the most collection centers uh you
know you gotta the the commissioner

772
01:07:44,579 --> 01:07:49,380
District that encompasses the city of
Waynesboro you really won't need one

773
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:52,980
here because you've got the landfill out
here or the transfer station so you have

774
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:56,220
that option to go there
so we would take those and put them in

775
01:07:54,599 --> 01:08:00,180
other places in the more rural areas
where it'd be it'd be more accessible to

776
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,720
people to get to but the one thing is
it's not those are not going to work

777
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:07,079
either we don't police them you know if
we just leave them open and let people

778
01:08:05,099 --> 01:08:12,799
throw trash at a dumpster then we've not
accomplished anything

779
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:12,799
so we just gave you a pretty red tragedy

780
01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:26,819
we'll have low awesome things
and so you'll have that that more or

781
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:30,299
less to put both waste and stuff and
that's the other thing we're also going

782
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:34,620
to offer a bulk waste option that if you
have bulk material that you want to get

783
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:39,179
rid of give us a call we'll come get
that bulk waste for you

784
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:42,299
and so you know we'll you know that's
another service that you don't have now

785
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:45,960
you got to figure out a way to get it to
the transfer station where it's supposed

786
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:48,779
to go but most folks throw couches and
refrigerators and stuff in the dumpsters

787
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:51,839
and that's one of the things that they
run into

788
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:54,900
and so
you know we're gonna we're gonna

789
01:08:52,859 --> 01:08:59,520
eliminate that issue as well
well

790
01:08:56,239 --> 01:09:05,400
like Mr Waldrop said contract says no
later than January 2nd we hope we hope

791
01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:09,000
to get it done earlier than that but but
the thing is there's two things number

792
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:13,080
one you've got to be able to have
equipment it's got to be available you

793
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:18,000
know I've already got everybody in place
to order what we got to have just got to

794
01:09:15,779 --> 01:09:21,719
see when that production date is but the
other thing is is we got to make sure

795
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:26,160
that we implement it the right way so
that means me and some of my team will

796
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:30,179
be riding every Road in Burke County
we're gonna count every house

797
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:34,199
and what we'll do is we'll take a map
and we'll mark off the roads that don't

798
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:38,279
have homes on them so those those roads
won't be travel home

799
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:44,480
and so then we can we can generate a
route that's productive and gets the

800
01:09:40,859 --> 01:09:44,480
garbage picked up in a timely manner

801
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:54,920
well it'll be at her at the roadway at
the end of the driveway or whatever

802
01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:54,920
and uh you know

803
01:09:55,100 --> 01:10:02,820
okay okay if a school bus or the postman
goes down the road my garbage trucks

804
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:08,960
will go down the road
Mr Lanier okay we'll take one more

805
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,960
question yes this young lady in the back

806
01:10:18,060 --> 01:10:25,460
well those Parks don't
well those cars won't blow over as

807
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:25,460
easily as some people think

808
01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:36,480
well we do 350 000 of them a week and so
we're going to figure it out long way

809
01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:39,780
that I promises I don't have all the
answers but I sure work hard to get them

810
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:45,780
I promise
okay thank you Mr Lanier thank you and

811
01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:52,140
um when he has these educational
sessions come back and ask more

812
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:54,980
questions by that time you think of more
things to ask

813
01:10:55,860 --> 01:11:00,679
The Madam chairman
oh we got one

814
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:10,679
okay we got to move on this yeah right
on Lucius okay

815
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,280
okay let's move on Michael did somebody
sign up

816
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:20,659
he is now

817
01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:30,120
okay we'll continue
with the item so Madam chairman I'll

818
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:35,940
make a motion that we approve the final
uh contract with uh right

819
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:41,340
motion made by commissioner Nick
seconded by commissioner Martin that we

820
01:11:38,699 --> 01:11:45,900
approve the agreement with the Ryland
Environmental

821
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:50,640
for solid waste collection Services all
in favor

822
01:11:47,820 --> 01:11:58,820
unanimous
next item on the agenda

823
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,820
Doris tongo

824
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:17,280
good evening good evening praise God I'm
I'm here again two months later

825
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:23,040
and my sister's standing with me because
we are also here because she wants to

826
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:27,739
um
she's on the list also so she's with me

827
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:35,000
I'm here again two months later to talk
again about the Voting Rights

828
01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:40,640
I still need the help of the commission

829
01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:46,159
my experience is that

830
01:12:47,820 --> 01:12:57,179
we some I am labeled or
most of the voters that I am talking

831
01:12:54,420 --> 01:13:04,520
about didn't have the opportunity to
have their votes counted

832
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,520
a label as no count

833
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,300
we are silenced

834
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:15,860
having no voice
treated as invisible

835
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:21,920
hidden and Plain Sight

836
01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:26,000
again an open investigation

837
01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:34,739
has been silenced
and some of us

838
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:37,400
are labeled
equity

839
01:13:39,179 --> 01:13:49,820
unable to stay in their place
so I'm humble

840
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:49,820
I am again before this Commission

841
01:13:51,659 --> 01:14:00,420
I have sent letters to
the County Board of Elections Mr Simpson

842
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:06,500
the chairman the director the County
Board of Elections

843
01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:13,400
to the secretary Brad
Ford's perjure

844
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,400
representative Gloria Frazier

845
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:24,860
the state election board to date I have
no answer

846
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:24,860
hidden in plain sight

847
01:14:28,739 --> 01:14:33,679
the county
I'm asking you

848
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:43,739
I've spoken to the city and they said
that the county is responsible

849
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:48,080
for the city's voting and for me to go
and talk to

850
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:48,080
the county

851
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:59,100
your silence continues to give consent
in allowing the voices of the people

852
01:14:57,060 --> 01:15:04,159
to be silenced
those voted and the votes didn't count

853
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:12,080
I'm humbled to be in your presence
and I'm grateful for everything that

854
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:12,080
each and every one of you do

855
01:15:12,179 --> 01:15:19,380
I'm just asking you to please
Reach Out

856
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:25,560
and not allow this
to continue to go dead

857
01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:32,239
I pray that Gods will be done
and blessings upon each and every one of

858
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:32,239
us here families and all

859
01:15:32,780 --> 01:15:40,800
love blessings
and I really want to know

860
01:15:37,739 --> 01:15:45,860
what have you done or what will you do
to make sure that this investigation

861
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:45,860
doesn't go dead

862
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:58,260
okay thank you Reverend taco
uh verb is it anything else the the city

863
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:03,780
may have misinformed you the county does
not run City elections the board the

864
01:16:01,739 --> 01:16:08,940
city contracted with the Board of
Elections to run the elections which is

865
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:13,500
not the Board of Commissioners the
Commissioners appoint two of the five

866
01:16:10,739 --> 01:16:18,060
members but they don't have any real
authority over the Board of Elections

867
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:22,920
they are independent of the Board of
Commissioners I know I have turned in

868
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:27,300
I've gotten your requests and I've
turned it in to the board of commotion

869
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:35,040
and excuse me the Board of Elections and
ask them to look into it but it is in

870
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:39,719
their in their Court to I believe Mr
Simpson said they had investigated and

871
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:44,699
closed the investigation but really
that's they need to respond to you

872
01:16:41,780 --> 01:16:48,420
either yes we're looking into it or we
looked into it there's nothing to it or

873
01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:54,239
yes we've looked into it and there's
we're still studying it one or the other

874
01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:58,739
but it is you're
um need to get on the board of elections

875
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,840
agenda and and meet with them because
that's who runs elections

876
01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:11,340
I'm aware they run elections but I'm
also

877
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:16,020
they have no position without this
comedy it's easier to come talk to the

878
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:19,800
County Commission than it is to talk to
the Board of Elections but you're in the

879
01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:24,300
wrong spot really you need to talk to
the Board of Elections about your

880
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:29,280
grievance that's that's the the proper
board that handles that

881
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:35,360
and I've done that and I thank you
kindly okay thank you it's green

882
01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:41,580
she's going to read the letter okay
request for disciplinary action March

883
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:47,820
the 27 2023
to Merv walls draw

884
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:52,620
County Manager Terry large chairman
602 Liberty Street

885
01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:58,620
dear Mervin Terry I would like to
address the inappropriateness of their

886
01:17:55,199 --> 01:18:04,460
behavior of commissioner Lively during
the meeting on March the 14th 2023

887
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:10,320
respectfully
Rising above and polite and

888
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:15,239
inappropriate conduct has many
advantages

889
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:20,640
one advantage is that it allows us to
take the high road and not stoop to

890
01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:26,219
being discourteous
my only concern when I address the Board

891
01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:32,640
of Commissioners on March the 14th 2023
was to get the garbage cleaned up on

892
01:18:28,860 --> 01:18:37,560
Bates Road and clocks Place Road
I addressed commissioner Lively because

893
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:44,940
he said that he had the same problem of
garbage not being picked up in his area

894
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:51,840
Mr Lively rudely raised his voice
and made me feel offended not one time

895
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:56,219
but several times doing the meeting he
also made

896
01:18:53,719 --> 01:19:00,659
inappropriate offensive comments to
sheriff Williams commissioner Abrams and

897
01:18:58,380 --> 01:19:05,940
commissioner Kelly
someone with the position that he has as

898
01:19:03,420 --> 01:19:13,679
counter commissioner should show a
higher degree of politeness respect and

899
01:19:10,020 --> 01:19:20,159
tactfulness even when having to deal
with criticism

900
01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:25,920
I am faithful as a citizen of this
County to the leaders of this colony

901
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:30,300
I am humbly asking
the two of you that I have addressed the

902
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:35,159
commissioner
this Commission

903
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:43,320
commissioner to address commissioner
livelies is inappropriate actions during

904
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:50,040
the meeting on March the 14th 2023
thank you for your good services to all

905
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:54,679
of the citizens of this County
humbly submitted and green

906
01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:04,140
and I just wanted to comment uh one more
thing after sending another instructor

907
01:20:01,219 --> 01:20:11,520
I thought that something would be done
but as of today nothing has been been

908
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:17,699
done out there at all
the garbage extent

909
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:25,500
so I appreciate if someone would do
something about it and as uh I think it

910
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:32,880
was last Friday or last Saturday a truck
full of stuff going to the landfill

911
01:20:29,179 --> 01:20:38,159
mattresses fell off in from our house we
had to go out and pick it up can you

912
01:20:35,340 --> 01:20:42,719
imagine me picking up a king-sized
mattress to drag to the back this is

913
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:46,560
what's going on out there
it's terrible

914
01:20:44,219 --> 01:20:52,560
and I just wish I prayed that y'all
would do something about it it's very

915
01:20:49,500 --> 01:20:56,880
nasty drive up and down here you see and
I know you've been up and down at the

916
01:20:54,120 --> 01:21:00,900
sea because we haven't talked about it
so please

917
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:05,719
couples out there
please

918
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:14,760
thank you thank you Miss green
I know that our County manager has

919
01:21:09,719 --> 01:21:21,960
spoken with the judge concerning that to
have detailed workers to do that but I'm

920
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:27,420
not sure of the status of if they've
gone or any any type

921
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:31,199
events that have occurred though you
murdered I don't know which areas I have

922
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:37,860
turned that road in a couple of times
I'll follow up with the judge tomorrow

923
01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:44,100
okay is there a time limit
I don't the judge doesn't work for me

924
01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:48,239
I'm for I'm not unfortunately but I will
bad sun down to more I will have

925
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:52,800
communicated with them
so but that but I can't make

926
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:59,100
him get the community service workers
there no the question about time limit

927
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:04,080
this is the third month coming and the
promises has been the same so that's

928
01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:10,800
what I'm addressing not the judge yeah
Madam chair every excuse me Madam chair

929
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:14,699
every time we have a request for any of
the roads and you are all aware because

930
01:22:12,659 --> 01:22:20,640
I copied the commissions on all these
emails I sent but I've forwarded on to

931
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:27,360
the community service coordinator and
judge Cox and the state court

932
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,360
administrator

933
01:22:27,719 --> 01:22:33,300
if it makes you feel any better I've
emailed them about some roads in my

934
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:36,900
district too and they hadn't got to them
either so

935
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:41,100
but that's all I can do is try to get
let us go and take a look at what yours

936
01:22:38,940 --> 01:22:46,380
look like where are you sir
uh Spring Branch Church Road Usher Road

937
01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:49,860
Old Waynesboro Road Four Points Road you
have those kind of

938
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:56,219
um I had that kind of trouble too yes
ma'am yes ma'am okay but but I have

939
01:22:53,940 --> 01:23:02,280
emailed the judge in the community
service people just the way

940
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:06,000
Mr Walter Pez and I mean you know like I
said they they work on Saturdays I don't

941
01:23:04,380 --> 01:23:10,020
know if they work on Sundays or not but
yeah you know it's just it's a big

942
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:13,739
County I mean I know they're they're
working but I you know that's all I can

943
01:23:12,179 --> 01:23:21,360
tell you
yeah one Mustang what are you gonna do

944
01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:23,719
about the library and the way he talks
to people

945
01:23:23,940 --> 01:23:31,980
put this stuff above all the upset and
stuff and understand that when we come

946
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:36,719
here and talk we only asking for the
help and he shouldn't be getting upset

947
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:40,159
about somebody mentioning his name and
it only was mentioned for one

948
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,080
the question

949
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:53,280
yes
I get upset when when people bring in

950
01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:57,300
things that have nothing to do with the
issue we try to make everything a race

951
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:00,000
issue and your trash in your ditch is
not a racial issue because I have trash

952
01:23:58,679 --> 01:24:03,480
in my niche
this Board of Commissioners didn't throw

953
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:07,920
their mattress out in their in your yard
the government can't fix every problem

954
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:12,120
they just can't do it so you depending
on us to stop somebody from throwing a

955
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:15,600
mattress in your yard that that's not
our we can't do that

956
01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:18,900
it's not we can't throw enough money at
the problem to make someone stop

957
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:21,900
littering maybe you should talk with the
sheriff's department maybe they should

958
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:26,219
Patrol your area more maybe stop
littering I don't know what to do but

959
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:29,040
again I didn't get upset until we
started bringing other issues that had

960
01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:34,020
nothing to do with garbage in our
community so

961
01:24:30,659 --> 01:24:38,520
and by the way this board can't do
anything to me they can't discipline me

962
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:43,040
you as a voter can
and I'll be glad to see that happen in

963
01:24:40,679 --> 01:24:43,040
two years

964
01:24:43,739 --> 01:24:51,900
see you there thank you very much
okay and thank you all

965
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:58,140
and we'll continue to work
through this issue and through the

966
01:24:54,719 --> 01:25:01,400
concerns that you have
okay Ben Roberts

967
01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:20,219
Madam chairman Commissioners my name is
uh Ben Roberts I'm a County employee in

968
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:25,440
the tax assessor's office I'm also the
writer of the bird dog politics column

969
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:29,460
that appears in the true citizen from
time to time I want to speak tonight

970
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:33,020
quickly but I want to address some
comments that were made at last month's

971
01:25:31,199 --> 01:25:37,460
meeting
specifically comments made by

972
01:25:34,980 --> 01:25:43,380
commissioner Abrams who suggested that
questions surrounding

973
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:48,719
the controversy around Sheriff Williams
spending of his budget is somehow

974
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:53,219
related to the color of his skin was the
phrase that Mr Abrams used

975
01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:56,719
that's not the first time this
accusation has been made the sheriff has

976
01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:02,219
made it himself
privately as well as publicly a month or

977
01:26:00,659 --> 01:26:07,080
so ago Sheriff Williams gave an
interview to WRDW in which he made that

978
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:11,880
same statement I emailed him after that
and asked him for any evidence he had of

979
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:15,360
that
um

980
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:20,280
he didn't have any and he stated that he
didn't and admittedly that's something

981
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:24,420
that's hard to prove but it's also
something that's

982
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:29,460
hard to disprove if you lay that label
or that accusation on somebody

983
01:26:27,540 --> 01:26:35,400
um
it's a basic tenet of our government

984
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:39,600
that ordinary citizens are elected to
positions

985
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:44,880
and then citizens are allowed to come
and question those officials

986
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:49,800
I think there's more than enough
evidence to show that the questions are

987
01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:52,139
valid that are being asked of sheriff
Williams

988
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:57,179
um
so I think to dismiss that or to suggest

989
01:26:54,900 --> 01:27:02,219
that it's simply based on his race was
improper now

990
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:05,760
I stand here as a 50 year old almost 50
year old white man

991
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:09,000
born and raised in the South and in the
state of Georgia

992
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:15,199
I'm aware that
my life experiences differ from everyone

993
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:20,880
else's and could differ greatly from
African-Americans and other minorities

994
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:25,380
I'm not trying to suggest that sheriff
Williams hasn't had difficulties or Mr

995
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:29,120
Abrams or chairman Kelly or anyone else
in this room haven't had any

996
01:27:27,420 --> 01:27:35,520
difficulties
in their lives because of their race or

997
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,520
gender or things of that nature I'm I'm
no fool and I'm not going to suggest

998
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:42,420
that
but again

999
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:46,260
I think it's important
that we look at the evidence and so I

1000
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:51,060
want to briefly run through as a
reminder both for Commissioners as well

1001
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:54,480
as the public of what we where we stand
in all of this and the evidence that we

1002
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:58,380
have so
um going back to August 18th of 2021

1003
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:02,219
Sheriff Williams received a fifty
thousand dollar Grant from the

1004
01:27:59,460 --> 01:28:06,900
Waynesboro Housing Authority uh in
October and November of 2021 he received

1005
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:10,560
a 375 thousand dollar Grant from
partners with plant Vogel that was the

1006
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:14,280
fourth time he had received the
Waynesboro Housing Authority Grant the

1007
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:18,900
sheriff that was the third time he had
received the uh he was referred to as

1008
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:24,540
the Vogel safety Grant previously that
Vogel Grant was used for salaries for

1009
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:27,840
extra patrol around Plant Vogel the
Housing Authority Grant to my knowledge

1010
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:32,880
was always used for small equipment
purchases or something of that nature

1011
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:37,980
in previous years there was press
releases Fanfare Facebook posts about

1012
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:41,699
those grants being awarded as there
should be we were fortunate to get that

1013
01:28:40,260 --> 01:28:47,159
money fortunate that the sheriff was
able to get that money uh but this time

1014
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:51,120
around in 2021 no Facebook post no press
releases no nothing it was later

1015
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:55,080
determined
um in April as a matter of fact the

1016
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:58,920
following year the sheriff standing here
in a meeting happened to admit that he

1017
01:28:56,639 --> 01:29:03,300
had used the vocal grant for some
purchase and nobody was aware of it at

1018
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:09,480
that time so the sheriff hid the money
both from the public as well as from you

1019
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:13,800
as Commissioners it was not appropriated
to his budget legally as it should have

1020
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:17,460
been instead he deposited in a local
bank he got himself a checkbook and a

1021
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:21,239
credit card
in 10 months Sheriff Williams spent over

1022
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:25,080
forty one thousand dollars on that
credit card

1023
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,860
the county audit determined that 86
percent of those funds or those credit

1024
01:29:27,420 --> 01:29:34,199
card charges were spent on hotels
airline tickets rental cars restaurants

1025
01:29:31,580 --> 01:29:40,080
including steak and seafood dinners out
of town those out of town trips included

1026
01:29:36,719 --> 01:29:43,739
multiple out-of-state trips to places
like Montgomery Alabama Nashville

1027
01:29:41,580 --> 01:29:47,480
Tennessee West Palm Beach and Destin
Florida Little Rock Arkansas Springfield

1028
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:53,639
Massachusetts
Biloxi Mississippi and other places and

1029
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:57,540
sometimes on multiple occasions
um it was later determined that a number

1030
01:29:55,139 --> 01:30:01,320
of these trips were for travel for the
leaders helping leaders Network

1031
01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:06,420
conferences and it was determined that
Williams is actually a staff and paid

1032
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:09,960
employee of that company
um

1033
01:30:07,260 --> 01:30:14,580
last week one of the busiest weeks in
our area with with Masters in Augusta

1034
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:18,120
huge law enforcement presence if you
went to Augusta last week Sheriff

1035
01:30:16,679 --> 01:30:23,699
Williams was in Boston Massachusetts
teaching for the lhu in network of

1036
01:30:21,420 --> 01:30:29,400
course I assume he was being paid and
compensated while he was there teaching

1037
01:30:27,060 --> 01:30:32,699
in addition to the 41 000 in credit card
expenses Williams also spent thirty

1038
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:36,440
thousand five hundred ninety eight
dollars in legal fees for his lawsuit

1039
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:39,860
against the county
5798 on additional meals and

1040
01:30:38,580 --> 01:30:46,679
entertainment
3660 On a payroll processing contract

1041
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:50,219
that as you are aware he never even used
thirteen thousand seven hundred and

1042
01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:55,199
seventy six dollars was paid to various
individuals some of those

1043
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:59,040
expenses were under very questionable
circumstances nineteen thousand two

1044
01:30:57,900 --> 01:31:03,960
hundred dollars was given to other
charitable organizations in the county

1045
01:31:02,219 --> 01:31:10,620
now that's nice
I'm glad the sheriff's all fit to

1046
01:31:06,659 --> 01:31:14,460
support those organizations however
those Grant funds were provided the

1047
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:18,659
sheriff signed an agreement the
agreement clearly stated what those

1048
01:31:16,199 --> 01:31:22,920
funds were supposed to be used for
the sheriff just then funneled them to

1049
01:31:20,699 --> 01:31:28,199
organizations that he chose
to to help and while that help is good

1050
01:31:25,620 --> 01:31:32,159
that wasn't what those funds were to be
used for the sheriff has been in here

1051
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:37,020
multiple times over the last two years
to say how desperately he needs money he

1052
01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:41,219
should have held on to those funds or if
he wanted to make some sort of donation

1053
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:44,520
he should have done that privately
out of that nineteen thousand two

1054
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:49,739
hundred ten thousand dollars was given
to the Burke help Foundation as a

1055
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:52,620
sponsor for their Tim Tebow event
um

1056
01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:57,060
as a sponsor the sheriff got to meet Tim
Tebow shake his hand take a picture post

1057
01:31:55,199 --> 01:32:01,980
it on Facebook he was listed as a
sponsor all of the Fanfare that went

1058
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:05,639
along with that but when the Burke help
Foundation was contacted about that

1059
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:09,540
Grant and the inappropriateness of that
money being given to them they refunded

1060
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,860
it and gave it back to the county as
they should have to my knowledge the

1061
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:17,820
sheriff has not bothered to pay the ten
thousand dollars back to the birth

1062
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:21,900
Health Foundation out of his own pocket
but instead they're just short that

1063
01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:26,360
money and out and that was a fundraiser
that they were doing

1064
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,360
um

1065
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:34,199
seven thousand four hundred eleven
dollars were spent on holiday turkey and

1066
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:37,800
hams again it's a great cause not what
those funds were meant for the sheriff

1067
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:41,760
could certainly seek donations find
other sponsors to do that he could do

1068
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:45,780
that without using money that should
have been spent to better this

1069
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:51,780
department and all William spent 249
thousand and thirty one dollars of the

1070
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:55,440
original 425 000 in Grant funds
really less than half of those expenses

1071
01:32:53,880 --> 01:33:00,300
appear to be for legitimate law
enforcement purposes which again is what

1072
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:03,500
that money was donated for
Williams has not received to my

1073
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:09,360
knowledge of fifty thousand dollar
Waynesboro Housing Authority Grant in

1074
01:33:05,699 --> 01:33:12,239
2022 I'm assuming he won't the Vogel
Grant is set to run out actually this

1075
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:15,600
month
there's been no announcement as to

1076
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:21,900
whether or not that will be renewed so
if not Williams has cost the county as

1077
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:26,460
well as his Department 425 thousand
dollars in funding

1078
01:33:23,940 --> 01:33:29,659
all by his own actions not by anything
that anyone else did

1079
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:35,040
taxpayers spent over a hundred thousand
dollars I don't have the exact amount

1080
01:33:33,780 --> 01:33:39,000
but we spent well over a hundred
thousand dollars in attorney's fees for

1081
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:43,620
the mandamus lawsuit
can you well I understand but yes ma'am

1082
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:47,400
I'm wrapping up quickly I'm sorry it's
been over a hundred thousand dollars on

1083
01:33:44,940 --> 01:33:50,760
attorney's fees for the mandamus lawsuit
there was an appeal he later dropped

1084
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,760
that appeal
um before the lawsuit the sheriff was in

1085
01:33:52,380 --> 01:33:57,360
here one evening handed out this sheet
of paper to all of us I was surprised I

1086
01:33:55,679 --> 01:34:01,199
could find it
um he gave a bunch of promises to what

1087
01:33:59,219 --> 01:34:05,699
he was going to do when he had control
of his money negotiate a less expensive

1088
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:09,600
expensive health insurance he wasn't
able to do that he's still on our health

1089
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:13,860
insurance saved money so he could pay
more to his employees retirement still

1090
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:18,840
on the same retirement that we're on and
he was going to save taxpayer dollars

1091
01:34:16,739 --> 01:34:22,560
in red right here the sheriff's proposal
can save taxpayers five hundred thousand

1092
01:34:20,820 --> 01:34:26,100
dollars per year
that has not happened he was in here

1093
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:31,320
last month asking for an additional one
million 1.1 million the sheriff's budget

1094
01:34:29,460 --> 01:34:37,739
over the last six years he's been over
budget 2018 84 000 2019 he was over two

1095
01:34:35,820 --> 01:34:41,820
hundred and eighty thousand dollars 2020
346

1096
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:48,060
000 2021 he did come in under budget for
both the jail and the Sheriff's Office

1097
01:34:43,580 --> 01:34:55,320
2022 over budget 498 000. currently he's
running a deficit in six years of 774

1098
01:34:51,920 --> 01:35:01,699
307 so just shy of three quarters of a
million dollars that he has overspent

1099
01:34:57,179 --> 01:35:01,699
above what the commission has provided

1100
01:35:01,980 --> 01:35:07,139
um
as a reminder

1101
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:10,139
he wanted a gas card said that was going
to be easy for his employees to fill up

1102
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:14,100
with gas it would keep them from coming
back to Waynesboro

1103
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:17,219
um
I don't have the exact figure but I

1104
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:20,460
think we're somewhere around thirty
thousand dollars that he overpaid in

1105
01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:24,239
fueled because he paid at the pump the
same price that the rest of us pay

1106
01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:29,280
um
he has yet to explain where it happened

1107
01:35:25,860 --> 01:35:33,659
to 53 871 dollars in forfeiture funds
that was sitting in the in the safe

1108
01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:38,400
and he is currently involved in the gbi
investigation for discrepancies with

1109
01:35:35,699 --> 01:35:43,020
post-training records where he admits
that he entered the wrong date however

1110
01:35:40,679 --> 01:35:46,560
he has not been cleared by gbi and the
sheriff has yet to provide the correct

1111
01:35:44,940 --> 01:35:51,960
date
of all the County elected positions

1112
01:35:48,420 --> 01:35:56,400
besides the sheriff the uh offices of
Magistrate Judge Probate Judge clerk of

1113
01:35:54,179 --> 01:36:00,600
court and Tax Commissioner are all also
held by African Americans three of those

1114
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:05,219
are also women
I'm sure that every one of them as well

1115
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:09,179
as every other department head black or
white man or woman will stand here and

1116
01:36:07,020 --> 01:36:13,199
tell you they have made requests that
you all have it funded

1117
01:36:10,940 --> 01:36:16,800
needs that they had that they wanted
funded but they would also admit that

1118
01:36:14,820 --> 01:36:20,639
you all have funded
other things other requests that they

1119
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:24,659
have made
I'll close by saying every bit of this

1120
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:29,159
is a verifiable fact there's
documentation all of these numbers can

1121
01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:32,699
be verified
um

1122
01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:37,560
and I think it warrants questions to the
sheriff and none of these have anything

1123
01:36:34,620 --> 01:36:42,480
to do with the sheriff's race
and I just want to remind everyone of

1124
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:46,380
that we have every right to question the
sheriff and I have been very critical of

1125
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:50,400
the sheriff and I assume I will continue
to do so

1126
01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:54,620
but I just wanted to remind everyone of
that thank you okay thank you

1127
01:36:55,139 --> 01:37:04,040
now we will have information and reports
from our department heads

1128
01:37:01,620 --> 01:37:04,040
okay

1129
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:09,500
okay Mr Burke Mr Burke you have anything

1130
01:37:17,219 --> 01:37:24,659
good evening Commissioners um the road
department has been doing our normal

1131
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:28,320
duties over the past month uh trash
pickup is normal the trucks are still

1132
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,980
running
um

1133
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:35,400
grass Cutting Crew is operating the
herbicide truck now spraying around the

1134
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:40,620
county
also

1135
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:44,639
the grass cutting crew are also weeding
around the signs maintenance crews are

1136
01:37:43,139 --> 01:37:48,300
cleaning ditches installing a lot of new
driveways we did five today

1137
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:52,139
uh
Lynn cut and crews are working in

1138
01:37:50,580 --> 01:37:56,760
various areas around the county sign
crews are putting up new signs and

1139
01:37:54,239 --> 01:38:01,980
maintaining the old ones and the shop is
busy

1140
01:37:58,380 --> 01:38:07,020
so it was just normal day for us
all right thank you we appreciate all of

1141
01:38:04,620 --> 01:38:11,699
you all's hard work
Scott

1142
01:38:09,540 --> 01:38:14,239
Lacey
Michael

1143
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:31,320
Commissioners uh I placed your
monthly Financial reports on your

1144
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:36,960
desks in front of you
we have budget report as well as revenue

1145
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:41,719
and just wanted to mention before we get
to the budget report that as you know

1146
01:38:39,719 --> 01:38:46,500
the audit was scheduled to be released
and would be presented tonight but that

1147
01:38:44,340 --> 01:38:51,000
has been held back of course as most of
you know and so budget reports just want

1148
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:56,280
to check with you make sure that you
have any questions before I

1149
01:38:53,400 --> 01:39:00,239
do you know what time frame on it we do
not uh we've been I've not been told a

1150
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:05,580
time frame just that they were not
comfortable at this moment

1151
01:39:01,739 --> 01:39:09,659
do you know why is the audit late this
year

1152
01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:15,360
normally we have it ready before April
1st and have a presentation

1153
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:19,860
yeah so right now where we stand is uh
the finance department that works for

1154
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:23,520
the county manager has has completed all
of our documentation and that that work

1155
01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:28,620
was done on time and it would have been
so would have been released by March

1156
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:32,040
31st required by Georgia law however the
audit firm was uncomfortable releasing

1157
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:37,739
the audit
due to the issues that have Arisen from

1158
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:40,460
the sheriff so right now we are on hold
so

1159
01:39:42,179 --> 01:39:48,139
that that decision has nothing we can't
control that decision so

1160
01:39:49,380 --> 01:39:57,659
okay any more questions for Michael
I was noticing on the revenues

1161
01:39:55,800 --> 01:40:03,659
it looks like we're running low World
sales tax for this year

1162
01:40:00,179 --> 01:40:08,280
um both on lost and almost lost we we
are that's correct we've had about 15

1163
01:40:06,179 --> 01:40:13,920
percent right that's correct we've had
two uh months that had what what the

1164
01:40:11,159 --> 01:40:18,300
state calls audits and normally that is
a large taxpayer

1165
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:24,120
that has gone back and determined that
some things that might have been taxable

1166
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:27,840
was not or they've done some refunds or
or things like that so those two issues

1167
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:34,920
have Arisen but also we're seeing a
decline in retail sales right starting

1168
01:40:30,420 --> 01:40:40,739
to see some recession and then as part
of the construction at Vogel they

1169
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:45,060
typically come out about once a year and
and say well we they estimate their

1170
01:40:42,900 --> 01:40:50,219
taxes and then when they get to the end
of it or toward the end they'll say well

1171
01:40:47,340 --> 01:40:54,960
this was probably exempt and so we need
the Department of Revenue to reimburse

1172
01:40:51,840 --> 01:41:01,560
us they reimburse the taxpayer and it
comes out of our next month's

1173
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:06,120
the sales tax revenue and occasionally
we've had Walmart do the same thing when

1174
01:41:03,659 --> 01:41:10,500
they do it all over the state
but this looks like it's just a Burke

1175
01:41:08,219 --> 01:41:14,400
County issue not a Statewide issue
that's right the the our large neighbors

1176
01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:19,100
Richmond and Columbia did not experience
it and if if it had been Walmart they

1177
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:23,600
would have had much larger
reductions in that one the case this

1178
01:41:21,179 --> 01:41:29,100
time so it's probably
isolated to us with Georgia Power

1179
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:34,460
which is understandable they make a
determination they have to go back later

1180
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:34,460
it's a tough process for them

1181
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:42,780
all right okay and I would encourage the
Commissioners to pay attention to this

1182
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:48,119
into the detailed budget report but
specifically the budget to expense there

1183
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:53,820
are several departments that are
trending toward going over budget

1184
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:59,219
um the we've been advised
by legal that we can't

1185
01:41:56,820 --> 01:42:05,460
do anything until that department goes
over budget however there are

1186
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:09,179
we need to caution our department heads
to be careful to stay within budget and

1187
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:14,699
really all of them are doing a good job
except for a couple of them

1188
01:42:11,820 --> 01:42:20,340
and and really once having overtime
issues the which and it's only a small

1189
01:42:17,460 --> 01:42:27,440
amount over there's the same person we
keep talking about has got is trending

1190
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:27,440
toward 851 thousand dollars over budget

1191
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,320
any more questions for Michael

1192
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:44,820
okay thank you Mike thank you
thank you Mike

1193
01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:47,840
now we will have a motion to go into
executive session

1194
01:42:48,659 --> 01:42:54,600
Madam chairman I make a motion to go to
the executive session to have a

1195
01:42:52,260 --> 01:42:57,420
discussion on the litigation issue I'll
second

1196
01:42:55,460 --> 01:43:01,800
motion's been made by commissioner
Nick's second by commissioner Martin

1197
01:42:58,860 --> 01:43:05,179
that we go into executive session for
litigation matter all in favor

1198
02:46:00,979 --> 02:46:06,140
chairman did you just make a motion to
return a regular session

1199
02:46:08,899 --> 02:46:15,660
Mr Vice chairman in the executive
session there were four litigation

1200
02:46:12,840 --> 02:46:19,380
matters discussed there was no final
action taken on any of those you'll need

1201
02:46:18,120 --> 02:46:23,640
a motion for one of your Commissioners
to allow you as Vice chairman to sign

1202
02:46:21,180 --> 02:46:26,180
that update I incubated emotion but I'll
make that again

1203
02:46:26,660 --> 02:46:29,960
just a second

1204
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:42,319
you can join the meeting now unless
yeah all right meeting adjourned all

1205
02:46:39,780 --> 02:46:42,319
right thank you