1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,120 I'm the auditor's office. You will call the 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:10,040 August 10th meeting of Missouri Valley Complex 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Committee to order. Uh in lieu of Reese's absence, Steve, 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,400 would you call the roll, please? >> LaCoe. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,680 » Here. >> Peters. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,000 » Here. >> Leker. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,760 » Here. >> Olson. 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:31,120 » Here. >> Martinson. Here. Berglund. Here. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:36,320 New. Here. Hellerud. Here. >> Thank you, Steve. Uh my 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:42,200 normal reminder to make sure everybody use microphones when you're speaking. 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Um actually, it carries better on the owl 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:51,720 without a microphone than when we use the recording that's here, but still, 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:57,480 please uh use your microphones and we'll roll into the next agenda item, 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:02,400 which is the approval of the minutes of the June 17th meeting. Those were 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:07,920 distributed via email. Are there any additions corrections 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:13,240 um or I would look for a motion to approve the minutes. 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,680 » I move that we approve the August uh the 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,560 June 17th minutes. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,880 » I'll second it. >> All right. Motion and a second to 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:30,760 approve the June 17th meeting minutes as distributed. All in favor signify by 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:35,800 saying aye. Any opposed, signify nay. 22 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:43,240 It was approved. On to the next agenda item, I would entertain a motion to 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:47,520 approve the approve or any uh additions or changes to the agenda. However, 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:51,440 before that, I want to clarify that under item number six, 25 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:56,640 the discussion of the Missouri Valley Complex Committee alignment with the 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Park Board governance will also include a review of the committee's scope, 27 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:06,760 responsibilities, authority, and resources, and that is the first page of 28 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:10,119 the document that I distributed earlier. So, with that understanding, I would 29 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:11,840 entertain a motion to approve the agenda. 30 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:16,080 » Madam Chair, a couple things. I did Monday night send 31 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,840 out the amended agenda. I've taken off the open position 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,560 discussion. >> Okay. 33 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:26,080 » And then also corrected the next meeting date, which is September 23rd. 34 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,240 » Good notes. I do see I have the amended agenda. Um 35 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:32,280 I have an extra copy if anybody needs one. 36 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Okay. 37 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Motion to approve the agenda. >> So moved. 38 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,320 » Second. >> All in favor? 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,520 » Uh all in favor of approving the agenda as distributed amended, signify by 40 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,800 saying I. >> I. 41 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:52,280 » Opposed to the sign. Hearing none, the agenda is approved. We'll move into 42 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:56,120 public comment. This is restricted to Berkeley County residents and 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:01,800 landowners. Um public comment is now open. 44 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:05,680 Given the only other audience member in attendance is also on the agenda, I will 45 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:10,640 assume you are offering no public comment. With that, I will close the 46 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:14,840 public comment section. Agenda item number six is a briefing 47 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,320 with several bullet points from Commissioner Munson. 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Um before Commissioner Munson as he walks up to the lectern here, walks us 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:26,320 through the park board proposal, I want to establish one piece of context for 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:31,120 the committee. Um if we're considering formally 51 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:35,360 aligning the Missouri Valley Complex Committee within a new governance 52 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:38,880 structure, we should also be very clear about what that means for this 53 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:44,080 committee's role, authority, responsibilities, and access to the 54 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:47,480 county resources. With that framework in or with that in mind, can I briefly run 55 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:52,280 through this document while you look up on your computer? So, on the front page, 56 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:56,240 which is the front page of the document is the one that is have the 57 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:01,320 title of Missouri Valley Complex Committee project status and direction 58 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:05,480 needed. Um I felt that this was important to distribute ahead of this 59 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,440 discussion. The purpose is to make sure that we have a shared understanding 60 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:13,240 where things stand. Um including is uh long-term planning 61 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,040 for the Missouri Valley Complex. We are working on development planning for the 62 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,040 proposed planning and site development needs, 63 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,919 infrastructure, future facility planning, etc., etc. 64 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:29,040 The County Commission previously authorized continued development of the 65 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,840 Ag Equestrian Center project plan with the intent of pursuing private funding 66 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,240 and no anticipated county capital contribution. 67 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Now, one thing that I think is important to note is what has changed um and in 68 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:52,400 light of recent discussions around the County Commission table is when the 69 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:56,919 agricultural acreage was leased in 2025. Um and we actually got into the growing 70 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:03,480 season quite late that year, but we were the acreage was leased in 2025. The 71 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:08,080 working assumption about a year ago was that the lease would only be for 1 year 72 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:13,160 because work was anticipated to be started with the Ag Equestrian Center in 73 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:18,680 late 2026. However, things changed. Since then, 74 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,400 changes involving the extraterritorial area affected the jurisdiction and 75 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,440 process for platting moving from city to county. 76 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Platting work that had prog- progressed through the city had to transition to 77 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,000 the county process, which extended the development timeline. 78 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:37,840 And the original expectation of beginning site work in late '26 was no 79 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:41,200 longer realistic. Questions remain regarding what planning work the 80 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Commission expects the Missouri Valley Complex to continue pursuing and what 81 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,720 county resources are available to support that work. And then the 82 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:54,120 responsibility for mowing, weed control, agricultural land management, and other 83 00:05:52,120 --> 00:06:01,120 routine maintenance has also not been clearly established. Um one note that I 84 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:06,600 would also make on the timeline ahead of your recap of the last couple of 85 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,960 meetings and discussions is there's been heavy discussion around the 86 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,200 committee or the commission table regarding weed mitigation and weed 87 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:21,280 management, and I think that the framing on that is missing a little 88 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:27,280 bit and can be seen with this timeline presented in this document that again uh 89 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:31,800 this committee took it upon themselves to authorize the management of that land 90 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:37,240 where the Ag and Equestrian Center was going to go and had also 91 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:41,480 uh supported Commissioner Munson's engagement on putting that plan forward. 92 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:45,680 We still went into the beginning of the year assuming that we were going to be 93 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:51,560 having development out there, and because of the changed timeline with the 94 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:57,480 ETA change, that really had an impact on some of those 95 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:02,240 duties falling through the cracks. So, I I do feel that it's really important for 96 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,800 that timeline and the changes to be taken into consideration for that 97 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:09,400 discussion. With that, Commissioner, I would leave it to you. 98 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:12,200 » I'm going to challenge you a little bit on your last statement. 99 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Um in December of last year after the 100 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:23,360 Bismarck Park Board decided to no longer take care of the Burleigh County park 101 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:27,080 projects, park land, we attempted to have a meeting with the 102 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,600 weed officer uh and the county highway department to 103 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,120 start planning cuz we knew these things were coming. 104 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Um that meeting never happened. Um 105 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:44,400 that portfolio holder chose not to meet. Uh I did get a hold of Darren 106 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:50,040 a little later and then you know that was late April and we started making a 107 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:55,840 plan for all of the parks. He completely forgot complex. Okay. So in May then we 108 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,480 had the conversation now we need to make sure because we had a rodeo event 109 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:04,840 coming. We needed to make sure that that area was sprayed 110 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:08,160 and so by the time he got his resources, his vendors there 111 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,919 a little later in the season and so yeah, we became we ended up having a 112 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:16,800 problem on that egg so um 113 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,840 process was started it just never it never got finished. Um 114 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,880 but be that it is it is it is now taken care 115 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,800 of. Um right, wrong or indifferent it's taken 116 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:32,960 care of. >> Lots of make you feel good for sure. 117 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,240 » It it it it makes for good television and makes for a good soap opera. 118 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Um and so So anyway, you know, we we talked a 119 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,960 little bit about where things stand with the with with the Missouri Valley 120 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,839 Complex Committee and if you remember years ago 121 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,160 the structure that we proposed to the county was different than what is 122 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,920 actually approved and what we're operating with now. 123 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Some of the county commissioners felt that it was very important that this 124 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:05,880 board was an advisory board to the portfolio holder only. 125 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Um as opposed to initially we had written in that document 126 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,680 um responsibilities for the board other 127 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:19,520 than just being an advisory board. Um and they chose that they wanted to 128 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:23,839 have final say in all things and so in order to have this board approved 129 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:28,000 we accepted a lesser role. 130 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,640 We accepted a role we are an advisory board 131 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:36,800 to the Burleigh County Commission as well as prime one of the reasons that 132 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:41,080 did stay consistent is this board being together to coordinate the events 133 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:45,600 that are happening at the complex as well as working forward to developing 134 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:51,080 the rest of that complex into a much better facility. Uh so we've been very 135 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:55,400 successful minus the timeline issues moving from city to county planning and 136 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,200 zoning. Um we've been very successful. I think 137 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,320 we've done a lot of great work out there and you guys need 138 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,800 uh to you deserve that credit. It is it is come 139 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:10,880 We've made more more progression with that area in the last 2 years than the 140 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,440 previous 40. So um 141 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:19,840 you guys you guys have done done well uh even with the battles that we've 142 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:24,080 we've faced. Uh so um now moving forward what I'm trying to 143 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:29,880 do is introduce to the county um and I hope 144 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:34,880 for the last time on Monday uh the 17th the plan for Burleigh County 145 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Park Authority um renaming Missouri River Complex. I 146 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,920 shouldn't say renaming it but considering it a park so it's all within 147 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:48,600 one group uh eliminate that portfolio itself so 148 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:52,040 that we have one group that is working towards 149 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:56,920 uh the common good of of all parks within Burleigh County uh 150 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,560 minus the city. Not to take over Dave's job. I don't want your job. 151 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,960 Um but I think it's important uh and it as 152 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,360 you read through the document that has been sent to you 153 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,920 um it changes the the makeup of the park 154 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:18,120 board the park authority from five sitting elected officials and two 155 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:23,960 appointed to two elected officials and five appointed 156 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:27,920 with the responsibilities to perform the duties laid out in the budget that's 157 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:34,160 been approved by the commission giving the park authority the ability to 158 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:38,160 hire weeds, hire mowing, coordinate the employees that we have 159 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:44,160 or proposed employees that we have in our plan. Um I know it it was taken off, 160 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:48,200 but we were successful in hiring a hybrid employee that will work in our 161 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,240 park district as well as for the highway department. 162 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Uh he should start week and a half from now. 163 00:11:52,920 --> 00:12:00,760 And so roughly his duties will be 40% park, 60% highway, but he is a full-time 164 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:05,200 employee. And so we will have his services 5 days a week. 165 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:10,320 And that'll that'll be helpful for us as well. I'm hoping we can open up our 166 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,400 our fishing dock for the first time this year because 167 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:19,280 what I Carson was a great kid, 18. 168 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:23,040 When that thing plugs up now I'm I'm not asking an 18-year-old to stick his hand 169 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,200 down a grinder to try to fix it. I need someone with a little more life 170 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,760 experience before we start doing stuff like that. So So now we have that 171 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,600 employee. But anyway, as you read through the new 172 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:37,760 structure of the park authority like I said, it gives the park authority 173 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,920 that decision-making ability to 174 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,640 take care of all the parks within the budget that has been approved by the 175 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:48,320 commission. Um 176 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:52,160 and I think it's the change from five elected officials 177 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,000 to two right now is is what I hear is my 178 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,800 biggest challenge at the Burleigh County Commission table. 179 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Um my challenge to that is there's seven 180 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:08,080 people on that park board right now. One is working. 181 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:11,440 That's it. Nobody else is doing anything on it. 182 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:15,240 I want seven engaged people that are going to be working towards the benefit 183 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,200 of all parks within Burleigh County. 184 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Uh in that document it it does keep the 185 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Missouri Valley Complex Committee alive. I mean you are still a valid part 186 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:31,560 of a vital part of that um as a subcommittee to the park authority. 187 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Uh rather than a subcommittee to the commission, it would be a subcommittee 188 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,040 to the park authority. Um 189 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:45,800 It will still be a battle on Monday. We've We've had 190 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,360 it in front of us now two times prior. This will be the third. 191 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,720 Um there'll be There'll be some lively 192 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:56,760 discussion about it, but um I think it has 193 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:02,360 I think it has a lot of positives within it and I and I think it's a very 194 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:06,800 valuable piece. Um I've said this before, but I want to thank Dustin again 195 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:12,120 for for being an integral part of writing that document because 196 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,640 it's way above my pay grade. He He did He did all the work. So, 197 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:20,560 uh I just get to fight the battle, you know, at at the commission table. So, 198 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:24,880 uh it is it is a good doc and I think it gives us 199 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:28,480 a good direction. So. Questions on that? You guys have all had 200 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,720 the document. You've seen it. You've read it. 201 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:35,240 Um any points that we need to 202 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Madam Chair? >> Yes. 203 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,520 » Um First 204 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:46,320 First I guess my first question is the terminologies that are being used. 205 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Looking at statute, it's pretty clear it's a park board. It's a park 206 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,960 commission. Park board. I'm not 207 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:01,520 I'm not real clear on where this authority came from 208 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:06,680 because I don't think you've got any authority to change the name. 209 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Um because it's statute, it's county park commissioner, it was county 210 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,440 park board. Uh 211 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,080 and and I think the issue that you've got at the table is that the authority. 212 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,839 Yeah. The people are looking at this or there's the assumption that you're off 213 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,440 on your own and you're not going to be responsible back to the county 214 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:29,120 commission, which it's clear in the statute who you're 215 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,120 responsible. Yep. Secondly, um 216 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:36,880 is this I wholeheartedly support a 217 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:41,840 wholeheartedly support going to seven members, five citizens. 218 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,480 It was the one time it was. >> Mhm. 219 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:52,120 » And then it got switched with some personalities, but it was at 220 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:56,560 one time. It was a citizen-based board. And 221 00:15:53,280 --> 00:16:01,480 I I whole wholly support that. But, I think the other clarity is policy or 222 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:06,440 governance, is that the role of the group, or is it going to be management 223 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:09,800 and running around the county looking at the parks? Cuz you've got staff that 224 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,800 you're proposing here, and it's supposed to be doing work. 225 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,320 » Right. >> The other thing that came up in the last 226 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,520 meeting is this whole issue and nonsense that you don't have access to the county 227 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,920 highway department. But, you're looking to put an employee 228 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,360 with the county department during the winter months. 229 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:28,960 » Right. >> Which doesn't make sense because 230 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:33,839 all of the statute lists the other auditor and the state's attorney and 231 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,960 treasurer, and there's what, five >> Sheriff's department. 232 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,839 » Sheriff's department already there. >> Yep. 233 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,040 » Why aren't the rest of the county departments? Because there was also 234 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:46,520 statement made at the last meeting about working together amongst the 235 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,520 departments. 236 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:53,360 I think the simplest thing you've got all you've got to do is change the 237 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:56,000 structure and let the group develop the plan. 238 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,600 » Yep. First 239 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:05,480 First to answer to your question, I chose to to label it authority because 240 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,160 I wanted to avoid two things. >> This mark 241 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,040 park district has a very good 242 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:21,240 reputation, and I don't want to label it a district or a board because you 243 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:25,560 currently have a park board for the city. 244 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:29,920 And you have a park district within the city. And so I chose not to use those 245 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:33,480 two words, which I don't think you can. >> You can't use the word district. It 246 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,520 doesn't allow you in here and to be a district. 247 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:40,840 » asked the state's attorney for clarification on that. I haven't 248 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:44,880 received it yet, but the reason I I I've used authority was to try to keep it 249 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:48,600 separate from the group that's already organized. I don't want the confusion in 250 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,720 the public between the two. >> Yeah. Um 251 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,280 there hasn't been that confusion for years. 252 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,600 It's the Bismarck Park District and Burleigh County Park. 253 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,040 » Yeah. >> That that's that's good. And I think 254 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:06,640 that's the way it statute even is pretty clear to me that you're not a district 255 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:10,920 because you're not a separate autonomous operating governing body. 256 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:13,760 You're responsible to the county commissioner. 257 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:18,080 » So that's exactly why I didn't use the word district. Um 258 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:22,800 » Which but it's in this report for the last couple of times. 259 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:25,640 » So I think it talks to what was and what is. 260 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,240 If I if I left district in there, I apologize. 261 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,120 » Yeah, but to me in all these years, it's never 262 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,200 been Burleigh County Park District. >> Right. 263 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:37,080 It's always been park board. Um 264 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,520 And so like I said, I I I chose the word authority just to try to give it some 265 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,240 separation. >> But it's it's still responsible to the 266 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,520 county commission. >> Correct. 267 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:50,920 » And I And the other part that I agree with is if this changes to 268 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:56,480 the format that you're suggesting, and again I'll say county park board, 269 00:18:53,880 --> 00:19:03,640 with citizen representation being five, that this group should blend into it. It 270 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:08,520 should be part of the county parks. And as such with operation and budget 271 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:12,680 and management oversight, so you don't have these 272 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,240 slip through the crack things like weeds and everything or development and 273 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,040 consistently development and management consistent management and from all the 274 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:24,320 user groups we've said that consistent relationships with leases and operation. 275 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:28,440 And so when you when you're looking at manpower, um 276 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,960 the rest of this year and next year, I do have the one employee in there that 277 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:37,720 is split or hybrid between parks and and highway. Next year my goal is to have 278 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,880 that park manager hired. That will be a full-time position. 279 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Um we spent $8,000 this year hiring a uh 280 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:55,880 an engineering firm just to do the permit process to dredge our two roofs. 281 00:19:53,400 --> 00:20:00,040 Bismarck Park District has done that for us for the last how many years and 282 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,600 within all within the fees that were charged. 283 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:07,480 » Yeah. >> Um we're seeing we we talked about it. I 284 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:11,600 mean, lawn mowing, Damn near cost us what Bismarck Park 285 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:18,200 District charged us all last year. And that's just to mow the lawns. Um 286 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:23,680 so so having that full-time employee uh that can be part of this group, be 287 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,440 part of the reporting to the to the park authority park board, whichever way we 288 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,280 want to go. Uh uh 289 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:34,600 that's a huge piece to make sure that that manager is available to be on top 290 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,480 of all those things, handle those applications, walk that all through. The 291 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:44,360 um uh it's going to cost us 292 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:50,120 estimated $6,000 to put together the bid package to replace the roof of a vault 293 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,120 toilet that a tree fell. 294 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:56,040 » Which is probably going to be ongoing costs of engineering and blood passion 295 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,280 services. >> But there's going to be, but not as 296 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 much. >> Yeah. 297 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:05,120 » Because they're running it start finish where the the manager can handle the 298 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,560 majority of that work. Um so so when I look at having that 299 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,000 full-time employee, that's a cost savings to the county. 300 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Um, and we have then that full-time person 301 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:22,520 that can Maybe we don't want to hire the the weed board to spray our weeds. That 302 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:28,600 park manager can hire his own subcontractor and now we're not 303 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:33,280 waiting for somebody else. So, what you're what you're you're heading 304 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:37,040 towards, Commissioner is hiring a manager 305 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,880 to manage the day-to-day operation, correct? The park board to be governance 306 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,240 and direction, policy, and planning. Correct. 307 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:51,640 And by the document, it truly lays out that the park authority park board will 308 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,200 create all of that process and procedure. 309 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:02,160 I think then the simp The easy The one step you have is to change the structure 310 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,440 of the board from five commissioners to five citizens and two 311 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:10,720 commissioners. And then let that group develop develop plan. Correct. 312 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,480 » And not at that commission table trying to develop plan. 313 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,720 » Right. Right. >> Cuz it doesn't work. 314 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:18,080 » We just need to get it We need to get it through the 315 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 resolutions. Yep. >> of the park board. 316 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,880 » Yep. >> Which is allowed in 317 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,360 » Yep. >> state law. 318 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,800 » Yep. Yep. We need to get it through the the 319 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:31,240 the approval of the commission of the current park board first then 320 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,640 then the commission after that. And then let um 321 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,920 Julie get the resolution done to bring back. 322 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:41,160 » Are the county park positions paid? >> Yep. 323 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,320 It's not covered in my document. >> No, but are they are they 324 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,240 » Currently, they are. >> They are. 325 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,560 » Yep. >> So, they're they're compensated board 326 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,240 like several other boards. >> Yep. They're per meeting. 327 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,960 » And which this board and this group is not, correct? 328 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,080 » Yep. >> Well, and I just want a quick follow-up 329 00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:00,360 and I think Dustin and and Wayne both have comments, too, but on that 330 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,920 um paid, 331 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,400 currently only two are paid. >> Correct. 332 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,200 » Because the county commissioners that are already serving on that are getting 333 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,520 paid because of their >> Yes. 334 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,680 » pay for being a county commissioner. >> Their monthly stipend or whatever it is. 335 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,200 » Right, right. Cuz there was a statement at the last commissioner meeting that it 336 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:24,640 would be an increased cost, a substantial increased cost, 337 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:29,720 uh to have more citizen members on that because more would be paid, but um I 338 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:34,480 think it's pretty nominal per meeting. >> $75 per meeting once a month for three 339 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,040 additional three additional people. 340 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:40,920 » Yeah. >> Does that answer your question? 341 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:45,400 » Not a large increase. So, I think one 342 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:50,200 one thing that needs to be added to the document is there there is a belief by 343 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,240 at least one, probably two, commissioners 344 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,520 that will go nameless, uh that 345 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:01,840 that this is going to be a deep state situation 346 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:06,600 to override the county, basically. And the irony is that we're 347 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,240 they're they're confusing this plan with this committee and and 348 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,640 uh you know, this committee is being considered both rogue and do nothing at 349 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,360 the same time, which I guess we're the Schrödinger's committee at that point. 350 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:25,680 Um but one thing that that keeps coming up 351 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:30,400 is the belief that there's a secret plan to extort the county into spending 352 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:35,000 millions of dollars to build the equestrian center. 353 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:39,600 And so, what what I would like to see and and maybe we need to take a motion 354 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:45,520 and write a declaration that the there's no secret plan to have the 355 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:50,720 county foot the bill for $10 million equestrian center, that the county's 356 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:54,520 obligation to that is the land and the engineering costs that have gone into 357 00:24:52,200 --> 00:25:00,400 the whole complex, basically, and limit it that and and make it a declaration 358 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:03,440 so that there's no gray area because essentially we've got county 359 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,160 commissioners that are that believe that there's a conspiracy here. 360 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:12,640 » So, to answer that though, Dustin, we've already taken that action at the 361 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:16,760 commission table and it passed 4-1. But that's how we're moving forward with 362 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:22,200 the equestrian center. So, that's already been asked and answered. 363 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,200 Um 364 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:31,280 the piece that is that that the county commission needs to keep in mind is 365 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:36,560 when the park authority creates a request for a budget, 366 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,240 county commission still has final say over that budget. 367 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,000 » Mhm. >> So, at any point if there was a $10 368 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,840 million line item for an equestrian center, this 369 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:49,960 county commission just simply doesn't approve it. 370 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,680 They already they will still have the final control over the budget side 371 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,360 of it. What I what I 372 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:01,920 what I feel is happening with this creation of this new authority 373 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:07,920 is that day-to-day and the week-to-week and the 374 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:12,040 coordination of events as well as the maintenance and 375 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,400 we don't want to get into maintenance, but um 376 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:20,360 because of our lovely citizens on the park side of it, uh I spent another 377 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:26,840 $8,000 just cleaning out a ball toilet last week. And 3/4 full of garbage. No 378 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,720 room for the waste. So, 379 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:35,520 there is so much else that comes into play with this that 380 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:40,880 uh this is not just about the complex. This is about the parks as a whole and 381 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:46,280 making sure that we have that day-to-day, week-to-week 382 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:50,760 pulse from the residents to the users so that we have a 383 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,400 functioning park district. Park apologize park authority park 384 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:59,120 » Park But it it it's 385 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Burleigh County has forgotten. And this is where I'm going to give the 386 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,440 credit to Steve. Steve taught us many, many years ago. 387 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:11,880 People move here for a job. They stay because of our amenities. 388 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Our number one amenities are parks. Bismarck Parks and Rec has phenomenal 389 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:21,200 group of amenities. Burleigh County has fallen severely behind 390 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,920 and letting them go. 391 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Nobody's paying attention. Nobody's taking care of them. Nobody's improving. 392 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:32,320 There hasn't been an improvement to the park district except for 2 years 393 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:38,920 ago I was successful getting it through the commission to put an ADA sidewalk 394 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:42,640 and a new vault toilet at Steckel. That's the last 395 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:48,920 to my knowledge, there hasn't been an improvement to a a ramp or a park except 396 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:54,400 in in '09 when we put the vault toilet at Schafer. 397 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:59,120 Nobody cares on the park side and that's wrong. We need to have a much more 398 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:03,240 vibrant, active Park Authority, Park Board 399 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:07,880 to make sure that all of our parks are being taken care of and are being put 400 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:12,360 forward as the best that we can. We've got a long ways to go to get up to 401 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:16,320 where Bismarck Parks and Rec is at. But this is the first step. 402 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:21,560 I really believe this is the first step and it's not just about the complex. 403 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:26,160 » Yeah, and and but the the commissioners are opposed to pretty much everything. 404 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:31,200 Or just one more thing. >> Yeah, yeah. And and 405 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,680 they want to make sure that no future commissions can 406 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,800 go the wrong direction. And the only way that they can bind the hands of future 407 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:46,160 commissions is to go into the home rule charter and bind the hands of as the the 408 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,680 citizens to bind the hands of future commissioners. 409 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:54,680 So, ultimately, any of this comes back on 410 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:58,480 them. And so, I know that that K has 411 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:03,440 uh some some language that she wants to put forward. Uh I had come up with some 412 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:08,760 stronger language than that. But, at the end of the day, 413 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:13,080 the commission needs to be the one that makes the determination as to what these 414 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:19,840 things do. And if they don't want 415 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,840 the committees or park board authority or whatever you want to call it 416 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:28,040 nomenclature-wise to do certain things, it's up to them to 417 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:32,280 proactively put in place 418 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:36,160 the the process to prevent things that they don't want to happen in the future, 419 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,320 while not getting in the way of things that should be happening. And so, part 420 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,680 of your challenge is probably putting 421 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:51,640 together a plan that not only shows where you want to go, but also putting 422 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:57,480 in place where you're willing to close certain doors to get where you want to 423 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,480 go, if that makes sense. 424 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,760 » Yes, it does, but I want to challenge that a little bit. 425 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,640 I I'm an elected official. This is not what I want. 426 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:13,240 This is what's best for the citizens and needs to be led by the citizens. 427 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:17,320 I'm elected to be that person that goes in between the citizens and the 428 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:21,960 commission. That's my job. But realistically, we need to create a 429 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,600 park authority, a park board that is active 430 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,720 in our community and wants to make sure things grow. 431 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:35,200 Um we've had too many years of stagnant 432 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,760 um growth in our park I Yeah, it costs money. 433 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120 I I'm an accused of spending a lot of 434 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,400 money. Uh if you Google me, that's the first 435 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,800 thing that comes up As I like to spend a lot of money. 436 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Um but it is not for me. 437 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:56,000 I've never used a ramp in Burlington. I've been to a few of the parks. 438 00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,200 It's not for me. It's for the residents. 439 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:04,520 I chose this portfolio because I wanted to make it better for our residents. 440 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Again, I'm going to blame Steve. Steve had 10 years of 441 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,440 of making sure that I understood what He trained Randy so Randy could train 442 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,920 me. But um he he had 10 years of me to make sure 443 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,520 I really understood what the benefit that our park system does for our 444 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,360 residents. And and he's not wrong. 445 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,000 And and as a as a county commission we failed. 446 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,200 » Mhm. >> And I need I need It's my It's my 447 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:39,240 mission to make this better. And I believe this is the way to do it. 448 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Put it in the hands of the citizens. 449 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,800 The budget goes to the commission for approval. 450 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,960 They can ask for whatever they want. Reality of it is is the commission still 451 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:54,400 has final say over dollars. And dollars will dictate what we can do 452 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,760 from there. You know, we had an audit done. Bismark 453 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Parks and Rec was hired to do an audit of our ADA facilities within our park 454 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,720 district. Everyone failed. 455 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:12,400 I was able to get Steckel almost there. 456 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,880 They pulled out of my budget the last 2 years 457 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,320 to fix anything else. And 458 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,760 they just don't feel as it's it's needed. 459 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,960 It's wrong. >> Mhm. 460 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,560 » Completely wrong. And there are a couple commissioners 461 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,600 that are going to say no no matter what you do. 462 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,720 They'd rather get sued than spend $5,000 to replace a the to 463 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,760 make sure it's ADA compliant. Makes no sense to me. 464 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,040 You know, we got to wait for a tree to fall on 465 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,320 a vault toilet to fix it. That vault toilet 466 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:54,880 could have used some other maintenance. Now, we don't have any money. 467 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,880 You know, but the reality of it is is 468 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,160 Mr. News is correct. People come here for a job, they stay because of our 469 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:06,720 amenities. Now, you listen to to Jared Cole 470 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:11,560 and you look at what we can bring into the community if we grow, 471 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:18,000 whether it's tax dollars, whether it's it's dollars to our businesses, 472 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:23,160 it is huge. Costs money, but we will get it back in 473 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:28,200 a lot of different ways. So, I agree that, you know, we'll never get 474 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,840 those two vote yes. It don't matter what we grant. 475 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,520 I'm not worried about those two. I quit worrying about those two a couple 476 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,760 years ago. Uh I have to move forward and hope that 477 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:43,920 I can get the other the other two uh to see the benefit. 478 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,280 And I'll never get those two. There's one else. 479 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Right? Yep. 480 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,280 » So, I know that one of your bullet points here is to consider formally 481 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,520 approving alignment of the Missouri River Complex Committee with Burleigh 482 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,800 County Park Board. So, I wanted to steer that discussion a little a little bit 483 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:04,680 further and I know that Wayne and Steve both had uh questions and discussions 484 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:07,120 and um if they pertain to that the discussion point. 485 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,600 » Uh you wait your turn to talk before. 486 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,280 » Yes. You know what I want to talk about? I didn't bring it up anyway. But, you 487 00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:18,720 know what? Will this have any effect on Missouri Valley Historical Society out 488 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:21,840 there at Buckstop Junction? >> No. 489 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:27,520 » So, okay. Everything's the same on >> The only The only piece that will affect 490 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:30,280 Buckstop at some point and Dustin and has been talking about this for a long 491 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,480 time, we need to align all of our agreements, 492 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,879 if you will, to be the same. You have a lease. 493 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,679 Motocross has a has a use agreement. I mean, we have so many other agreements 494 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,159 out there. None of them are the same. The only thing that will affect the 495 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:51,919 current folks that are there is eventually we will all get to be under 496 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:55,480 the same agreement for the use of the land. 497 00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:59,880 But, beyond that, no. >> And also, you would have a direct point 498 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,560 of contact with the county park board and not have to go 499 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,200 » Right. >> walking down the hall to find an office 500 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,800 to talk to somebody. You'd have a relationship. There'd be somebody you 501 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040 work with. >> Yep. 502 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,040 » And we got our own uh Well, we don't have a budget really 503 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,520 because we don't have no funding out there. In fact, we got to rebuild our 504 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,640 church out there, the steeple. It blew off the doors off the strong wind we had 505 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:25,200 here a while back. And we got paint. That's a lot of That's a lot of money. 506 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,720 We do have an escrow account for the church. And we're going to probably use 507 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:32,440 up most of that just to repair the church. And there's a lot of groups that 508 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,880 want to use that church for weddings. >> Yeah. 509 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:40,440 » And uh we've got to replace furnaces and air conditioning in a couple of the 510 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:43,400 buildings this year already. So, uh we're we're getting short-handed cuz 511 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:49,640 some of our members retired and 512 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:54,560 uh can't can't walk anymore. And um I might be included. I don't 513 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,880 know. But, um we're moving forward. We I did uh manage to buy a tractor for out 514 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,640 there to use for mowing. >> Good. 515 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,840 » And it works real good. It's one I picked up at an auction sale 516 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,960 uh last year and bought it just for the purpose of using it for out there. So, 517 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,200 they just I just delivered that the other day. 518 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,600 And the guys that are using it like it. >> Good. 519 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,360 » And it runs good. And uh 520 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,720 now the other question I have, what are we going to do with that mess 521 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,520 that those contractors left at that racetrack? 522 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,240 That is such a mess. They I I want to make it into a motion that they 523 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,320 abandoned that that project. 524 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,280 » I have been on them to >> Cover it up. 525 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,360 » be in front of the commission for the last several months to give us an 526 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,960 update. Uh as of last week, they did finally 527 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:46,760 finish all of their borings where they found more 528 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,960 bad soil just like they hit now. >> Right. 529 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:54,440 » Um and they're they're still haven't come up with a solution 530 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,320 as to how they're going to move forward. >> They should abandon that route that 531 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:04,280 they're on and take the thing and uh move it south of the track in that flat 532 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:07,120 area and head straight to the 52nd Street. 533 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:11,240 » South is worse than where we're at. >> Well, at least they won't be digging up 534 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,880 the track. They're going to do underground boring 535 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,080 on that from what I understand, huh? >> They 536 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,800 » But uh they made such a mess out of it. It makes my stomach sick every time I go 537 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,160 out there and look at it. >> Mhm. 538 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,400 » And they're hauling more junk out there, big timbers and stuff to bury. 539 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,520 » I asked if they were going to start paying storage fees cuz they're their 540 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,120 stuff has been all over our complex for a year. 541 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,320 » Yeah, mhm. >> So 542 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,440 » We could all use a gravel someplace out there. 543 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,600 » Yeah. >> But no, something's got to be 544 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,560 changed on that whole direction. Abandon that sewer line. Move it to a different 545 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200 location. >> We're still waiting for the engineers to 546 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,600 come back to the commission. >> want that going across that racetrack, 547 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,520 period. And they got to fill in those corners before frost comes in. 548 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,440 » They got a lot of work to do. >> They do. But how are they going to do 549 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,840 it? Or fire one or two. 550 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,840 » I am going to interject just because I have a hard stop at one and we're 551 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,600 getting a little far off of the agenda topic that we're on right now. 552 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,840 Um >> It had to be brought up. 553 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:13,160 » I know and I always appreciate you keeping your finger on the pulse of 554 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,600 what's going on with that specifically, but I would definitely entertain 555 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,240 um you know, for future discussion on that 556 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,640 should it be warranted. Steven, I I you had a question. 557 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,720 » I'm sure. commissioner, just just a couple things. 558 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:30,640 I'm going to address something that Dustin said as well. You know, this 559 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:36,280 whole conspiracy of the equestrian center was that was self-generated right 560 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:39,920 at the table. And unfortunately, that group didn't even get an opportunity to 561 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:44,920 present. Um and the other discussions that we've 562 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:50,400 had around this table and and with engineering firms is that a plan needed 563 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:55,400 to be developed that also included the work and funding recommendations to go 564 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:59,880 forward. This park board 565 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:04,560 discussion and reorganizing again citizen and get people engaged in the 566 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:09,640 same thing including it and the complex again should be included in that. But as 567 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,840 part of the overall master planning, how strategic planning was brought up about 568 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,440 three times at the last county commission meeting by somebody I didn't 569 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,120 even think knew how to spell it. But 570 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,880 » You know, it doesn't mean that he knows how to spell it if he said it. 571 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,800 » Yeah, I I don't know if there's an A or an E in there. But you know, it's a that 572 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:30,560 is the kind of thing that this group can do. But in to be part of that and if the 573 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:35,760 county commission doesn't want to do parks or fund this or operate it, which 574 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:41,600 I don't think some of them do, then give it to somebody else who can. 575 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:46,080 And maybe that's the long term, but this is a good alternative, but you got to 576 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:50,000 engage some people. So the planning and infrastructure we've talked about whose 577 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:54,120 responsibility is the infrastructure, who who's the owner of the property. And 578 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,480 that's part of this discussion as well. I I think if if it moves to county park 579 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,920 board with that kind of relationship, um yeah, we'd support it. We'd move 580 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,320 forward. >> It may not be a chair that way. 581 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,800 » If I can, let's let's get engineering up here first to make sure they have their 582 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,960 presentation. You've got a hard stop. >> Yeah. 583 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:17,400 » I can come back up and get you talking. >> sure and I am 584 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:22,440 wait, I I'm very okay with moving on in the agenda items, but I want to make 585 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:26,440 sure that I give you the opportunity. Are you looking for formal action or 586 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,120 would it be um 587 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:34,880 positive for you to have formal action from this 588 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:39,400 committee by way of a support should we consider doing such a thing? 589 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,720 for this plan that you plan to present. 590 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,360 » Let me think about that. >> Okay. 591 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,440 » Before before we all adjourn, I will come back up and address that. 592 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,680 » I I would just have to add that and I agree with that and then up here 593 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,600 you want to bear and agree with that before I just say 594 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,480 I think I think what it would do and with formal and formal, but the 595 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,520 indication has been that we've been kind of the 596 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,760 stepchild to the county commission and that so we're not doing anything and we 597 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,120 haven't we haven't done anything in 3 years or 2 years, but 598 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,840 it would um give the group a whole but it would 599 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,240 bring everybody together and I think help the county park board. I mean count 600 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,720 and the county commission then can say, well, that's with county park board and 601 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,840 it's all together and that's all. So and and I know 602 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680 the old dam is separate, but that's a whole another situation with the water 603 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360 resource board and we're not going to mess with so 604 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:39,480 » Nope, so it is. >> So so but put it in with the parks. Get 605 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,000 it all together so >> Yeah, I think we should have Lon come up 606 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,360 and plan and sorry. 607 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,880 And uh where I got lost. 608 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,440 » I'm really trouble hearing that so I think 609 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,160 » I don't see you enough. >> You never show up. 610 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,840 » That's right. >> That's right. 611 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,040 » Welcome back. >> Thank you, Shirley 612 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Lon and I are going to spend some time here in New Jersey to give you an update 613 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,040 on the planning process. Um as you know, the the preliminary plan 614 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,240 was approved a couple of months ago. Um it was kind of around that time where 615 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,800 obviously the county had taken over the jurisdiction from the city. So we're 616 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:14,080 making that transition from discussing urban gutter streets with the public 617 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,960 right-of-way and things like that. You're eliminating all that. You're just 618 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,080 basically going back to one large lot that the county would own and you can 619 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,880 develop the interior however you see fit. 620 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,640 Um so right now we are we're preparing the final plat for submittal next week 621 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,200 um along with the stormwater management plan. Those of you who have been 622 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,160 involved in in in developments know what the stormwater management particularly 623 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,720 in a site like this where there's a lot of wetlands to deal with, it's kind of 624 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,480 the driver how it all why it's developed. So we're working on uh sizing 625 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,240 ponds depending on how we how much we believe is actually going to be 626 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,400 encumbered by hard surfaces and buildings and things like that. Uh and 627 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,080 then we're working with the county engineering department to get that 628 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:55,120 approved. So the plan is to uh submit next week. So we would be on the 629 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,080 September 21st uh excuse me, September 9th planning and 630 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,800 zoning meeting for a public hearing. And then assuming we get an approval at 631 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:06,200 that point, we'll be moving forward to either September 21st or October 5th. My 632 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,640 money says October 5th for the county commission meeting for for the final 633 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,000 approval. Some of that depends on how much uh time the the county staff has to 634 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,160 get together what are our advertising they need to do and also for county 635 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,120 engineering to determine if our stormwater stormwater management plan 636 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,960 meets their needs. Um but that's where we're at right now 637 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,760 and so theoretically, approval October and then we can file the plat at some 638 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,200 point there after. It'll be your call if you want to file it this year, next 639 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,160 year. I don't know if it's relevant for for 640 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,160 our group to do that. >> Okay. 641 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:43,080 It's been a very long process. Yes. And I appreciate your work on 642 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:46,720 every step along the way. Uh any questions or comments from the 643 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:50,360 » Land of September 9th, is that the county planning and zoning commission? 644 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,360 Not the city. Whatever I need to do. County community, yes. 645 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,240 » And 646 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:05,240 So from the 20 2026 discussion of development, we're now in 2027. 647 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,920 How many can develop? 648 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,400 That's okay. works. I'm sure it will come. 649 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,520 » Mr. Follow. >> So, this is Landon the other day, you 650 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:23,080 and I and and Jason were talking about uh 651 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:28,800 some additional costs that came into play when we went from city to county. 652 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:33,400 I I would like to present that bill to this group for approval prior to it 653 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:37,840 going to county. Uh 654 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,280 so, when that bill is ready, um let's make sure it's on next month's 655 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,720 meeting here uh to get approval for that. 656 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,560 » Okay. >> Thank you. I will get that to you. 657 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,560 » Thank you. 658 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,960 » All right. Seeing no nothing further for you. I thank you 659 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,840 again. >> Thank you. 660 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,840 » All right. 661 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:03,040 Um Commissioner Munson, did you have 662 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:06,400 anything further on your agenda items if you want to provide a 663 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,800 quick update on the 664 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:16,280 budget and budget schedule? >> So, I can give you um 665 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:20,840 what was submitted to the commission and approved at the 666 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,960 preliminary budget uh for the Missouri Valley Complex 667 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,400 full of $468,100. 668 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,800 Uh now, that's a little misleading because where 669 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:40,760 I put all of the equipment that I plan on purchasing to mow the lawn, so a 670 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:45,120 pickup, a trailer, a lawn mower, that all ended up on the Missouri Valley 671 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:50,640 Complex budget um primarily that's that's the biggest budget and was it 672 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:56,280 would be used mostly at the complex uh hours-wise. Uh so, we put it in the 673 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:59,440 complex budget at that point. Uh now, this is going to be my third year 674 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:04,800 in a row where I have uh 675 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:08,840 added the uh the line item to repair the asphalt road 676 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:15,680 uh coming off of um Bismarck Expressway that goes up to the 677 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:19,360 park and wreck building and around to uh 678 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:23,440 Highway 10. Uh we have a lot of areas on there that need to be repaired, but 679 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:27,480 we've been holding off waiting for uh yeah, the sewer to be finished. 680 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,640 There's no reason for me to go out there and repair roads that are going to get 681 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:37,200 ripped up and repaired again. Um so, there's $150,000 682 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,880 that has been in this year this budget the third year in a row. 683 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,560 You know, the last 2 years it didn't get used so it went back to the general fund 684 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:49,760 uh as far as that goes, but there's $130,000 in here for equipment 685 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:55,240 uh so that we can save $100,000 a year for 686 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:59,480 the next 10 years. Um just in mowing costs. Uh 687 00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:03,760 I do have, you know, our our normal utilities. That hasn't changed a whole 688 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:07,080 lot over the last several years. Um 689 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:11,120 we do have uh Auditor Skowronski has been phenomenal 690 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,000 helping me getting this stuff done. You know, we've got 691 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,880 50 gifts out there for different events. We've got garbage out there. We've got 692 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,200 all other things out there that need to be taken care of and that has been 693 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:29,160 handled quite well. Um 694 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:32,080 I do have uh some money set aside for parking lots, snow removal, trail 695 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:35,920 repair, general maintenance. Uh last year I 696 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:40,560 think we bought a uh couple of different gates for the rodeo 697 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:45,480 grounds, you know, so we've got $25,000 into that. Um 698 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:52,560 for uh incidental incidentals, but uh 699 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:58,560 last year I think we we I don't we we didn't spend 700 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:02,320 50% of our budget last year. Um the last full year just simply 701 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,600 because we didn't repair the road. Um this year's budget that we're 702 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,320 currently in, we're going to be way under again uh 703 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,920 just simply because we're we're not repairing that road again. Um I I don't 704 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:18,360 foresee that getting done this year at this point. So, 705 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,640 um we've done well and it's finished correctly. So, 706 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,560 yeah. >> Yeah, who's uh in charge of leaving the 707 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,200 lights on out there rodeo grounds all the time? Over by there are times in the 708 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,280 evenings the lights are on and over here are on. The rodeo people need to learn 709 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,680 how to shut the lights off. >> Yeah. 710 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:37,040 I've seen that happen a few times. >> Okay. 711 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:41,360 I will I will visit with them. >> You might have to ask him if they were 712 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,360 born in a barn. 713 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,120 » Is that something going on this Saturday? 714 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,840 Excellent. All right. Thank you, Commissioner. 715 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,680 Again, thanks for your hard work on that. 716 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,160 Um if it's okay with the committee given 717 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,800 that we're going to be back-to-back with another 718 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:03,160 uh meeting here, uh we'll move on to agenda item 719 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:07,480 number eight. That was the discussion on development of Missouri Valley Complex 720 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,440 concept plan, etc. Um 721 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:14,920 I want to bring back uh now that we've talked about all the proposed governance 722 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,520 structure and heard where the plat stands, 723 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,680 I think it's time to look at the second page uh as part of the broader 724 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:27,360 discussion. Item eight asked us to discuss development of a concept plan 725 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,080 and so on and so forth. Um however, before we start assigning 726 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:35,800 ourselves more work, it might behoove us to get very clear 727 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,040 about what the commission actually expects this committee to do and what 728 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,000 authority and resources we have to do it. 729 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,720 Uh if the committee agrees that these are areas where we need clarity, we 730 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:52,720 could look at formal action. Uh specifically, I'm looking at numbers one 731 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:57,200 through five on the second page. Uh the committee should seek clear direction 732 00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,640 from the county commission on overall complex planning, 733 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:05,560 infrastructure planning, county resources, maintenance responsibilities, 734 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:12,000 and the governance to include what role and authority the complex committee has 735 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:16,960 as count as the county considers future governance structures. 736 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:21,280 Also included in here is the who is the responsible for the maintenance, the 737 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:25,880 weed control, etc. This 738 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:31,880 considerable discussion may we have that already today, but is there any formal 739 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:35,880 action the committee would like to take to request that direction from the 740 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:40,760 commission or is there further discussion on the items? 741 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:45,400 » I I'll move make motion to that the Missouri Valley Complex Committee 742 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:49,040 formally request a written clarification from the Burleigh County Commission 743 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:53,840 regarding the committee's current scope, responsibilities, authority, and 744 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:57,400 available county resources, maintenance responsibilities, and direction for 745 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:04,040 continued planning of the Missouri Valley Complex and proposed egg and 746 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:09,000 equestrian center, and give chair Nicole permission to 747 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:14,160 go to the next commission meeting to discuss that with the full commission. 748 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,880 » We have a motion on the table. Is there a second? 749 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,800 » Second. >> A motion and a second to 750 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,880 have the Missouri Valley 751 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:29,520 Oh, my goodness. Missouri Valley Complex Committee to request formal direction 752 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:34,000 from the Burleigh County Commission and bring that forward at a the future 753 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,400 commission meeting. Any discussion on the motion? 754 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:43,240 Yes. >> For discussion clarification, but uh 755 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:48,960 Commissioner your presentation is Monday again on the 756 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,720 County park board change. Correct. >> Okay. 757 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:59,080 Which if it's approved to move forward, that 758 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:59,080 begins January 1st. That's in the Yes. 759 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:06,000 Timeline of this as soon as possible. Okay. 760 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,360 » I think Yeah, I I think >> Either or. Either they approve it 761 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,400 the changes or don't, doesn't matter. This can 762 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,400 » I One way or the other, I think that the commission needs to be put on the spot 763 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,520 as to what they expect. There was a comment made by the chairman of the 764 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:25,400 commission at last meeting that he's disappointed in what this committee 765 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:31,240 specifically has been doing or not doing, not clear which. Um 766 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:35,200 And I believe that that is separate from this 767 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,080 larger plan to consolidate the the parks. Uh 768 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:44,400 you know I have been personally accused of uh 769 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:50,280 basically carrying Commissioner Munson's water on this. Ironically, the primary 770 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,720 reason that I've been helping him on this is Commissioner Bakken was 771 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,000 uh uh 772 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,440 trying to persuade me to do that and hoping that I would do that. 773 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,640 So, part of this is 774 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:09,160 when I say that we've been accused of being rogue, it's mostly me, but uh 775 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,160 the idea that one of the one person on the committee is going rogue for the 776 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:18,680 portfolio holder, even though that there's a second commissioner that has 777 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:24,000 been supportive of that. I think that we need to put the full commission on 778 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:27,160 the spot as to what they expect from this committee, at least for the next 6 779 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,680 months. And you know 780 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:36,680 so that we know what we're supposed to be doing other than developing this plan 781 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,680 that they may or may not go for. 782 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:47,400 » Any further discussion? Seeing none, the motion has been 783 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:52,320 ordered and seconded. You're voting on 784 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:58,440 providing the county commission the opportunity to 785 00:53:55,720 --> 00:54:03,560 give us written clarification on our scope, responsibilities, authority, so 786 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:07,760 on and so forth. I believe that we will be able to capture the specific motion 787 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:13,120 from the minutes. And with that in mind, Steve, can you 788 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,880 please call roll? >> Uh 789 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,120 Wicker? >> I. 790 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,480 » Peters? >> Yes. 791 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,920 » Wilson? >> Yes. 792 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,040 » Martinson? >> Yes. 793 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,760 » Grau? >> Yes. 794 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,720 » New? Yes. >> McCall? 795 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,120 » Yes. >> Motion carried. 796 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,200 » Motion carried. >> Um I don't believe that included in the 797 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,400 motion was a specific meeting date, correct? 798 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:41,600 » Not in the motion. >> Uh I would look to our commissioner 799 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:48,080 liaison portfolio holder as the direction of which of the next meetings 800 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:51,440 you would like to put that on. >> That's an interesting point cuz I was 801 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:58,120 just trying to decide when the next meeting was. So, the 17th we have to be 802 00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:01,360 we needed to have agenda items by noon. Uh and 803 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:05,800 too much between now and Monday to to worry about it. 804 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:09,480 But our next meeting is not until September 10th. 805 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,760 It's a Thursday. Because Labor Day is the 7th 806 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:17,280 Monday. So, 807 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:20,400 I would I would prefer to do it at that September 10th meeting. 808 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,920 » I'd say September 10th is fine. >> Chung King? 809 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:36,720 » With a ball. >> Uh we've reached the point of the agenda 810 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:41,960 for any other new or any other business. 30 seconds to go. I none. Uh the next 811 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:48,040 meeting for us will be Wednesday, September 23rd. Same room, same time. 812 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,600 And we will stand 813 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,680 adjourned. >> Adjourned. 814 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,760 » Adjourned. >> Adjourned. 815 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,920 » Adjourned. >> Huh.