1 00:00:01,100 --> 00:00:03,620 >> call this meeting to order on monday, july 21st, 2025 at 5:30. 2 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:07,700 would everybody please stand for the invocation and also the pledges? 3 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:17,170 heavenly father. We owe it all to you. 4 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:27,450 tonight, the council is going to be doing business. We ask for your wisdom and knowledge. 5 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:29,770 but lately, we have lost special people. 6 00:00:34,090 --> 00:00:34,090 I want to pray for mark pate and his family. 7 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:38,250 I want to thank you for his leadership 8 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:43,530 and his example that this man brought to the police department and everybody around him. 9 00:00:49,765 --> 00:00:49,765 also, [inaudible]. 10 00:00:55,375 --> 00:00:55,375 you get individuals you send us that spend their life taking care of others, 11 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:03,650 and we want to thank you for her. Heavenly father, be with us tonight. 12 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:08,410 we love you. We thank you for your son. In christ name we pray, amen. 13 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:47,530 >> good evening, mayor and council. That moves us on to section 2, public presentations. 14 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:53,890 we have no proclamations this evening. However, we do have two presentations. 15 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:58,350 I will announce both presentations. We'll have a brief update by deanna phillips, 16 00:02:00,650 --> 00:02:02,030 director of community services, and then at the end, we'll take one big picture for each one. 17 00:02:05,095 --> 00:02:05,095 first is the adoptable shelter pet. 18 00:02:10,450 --> 00:02:10,450 >> terry compos. Animal control officer shelby welch 19 00:02:15,530 --> 00:02:19,230 has brought kingston with her for us tonight to feature. Kingston loves it here, 20 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:25,005 and he might just become our council dog. He's been greeting everyone. Kingston obviously is still a puppy. 21 00:02:26,750 --> 00:02:30,070 he's about three months old. Him and his sister came into the shelter. Our best estimate is he's some shepherd mix. 22 00:02:33,890 --> 00:02:37,370 we think he'll probably become a medium to large sized dog. He's very sweet and very friendly, 23 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:41,700 but he is a puppy, and puppies do need a lot of attention. Goodness. He's not potty trained yet. 24 00:02:47,010 --> 00:02:50,725 as a reminder, the animal shelter is at capacity, and in order for us to place as many dogs in available homes, 25 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:58,690 we do waive the adoption fees. All potential adopters must still go through all the shelter screening process before an adoption can be complete, 26 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:06,050 so please come over to the burleson animal shelter and let us match you with your forever friend. Maybe it's kingston. 27 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:13,030 that's literally my nightmare, but it's fine. 28 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:21,530 you read the next one. 29 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:30,290 >> thank you. Next is to receive a report to recognize the communications and police departments for statewide marketing awards. 30 00:03:35,790 --> 00:03:39,075 once again, deanna phillips, director of community services. >> thank you very much. 31 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:43,050 it's my honor to present to city council tonight the various marketing communications awards 32 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:47,650 the city of burleson received this year during the texas association of municipal information officers, 33 00:03:51,405 --> 00:03:55,300 that's a mouthful, tami annual conference in june. More than 650 entries were submitted across 34 00:03:58,690 --> 00:03:58,690 29 categories and the city of burleson is proud to have brought home 10 awards. 35 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:05,710 these honors highlight the creativity, innovative and engaging ways the talented professionals behind me work 36 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:09,750 to cut through the noise and educate our community on important initiatives and services. 37 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:17,710 I'm going to take a moment to introduce the team. We have collin gregory, who serves as the police department side as 38 00:04:19,570 --> 00:04:22,430 the community engagement and crime prevention specialist. We have tina brinkman, the marketing manager and head of 39 00:04:25,250 --> 00:04:27,770 the city's communications team, marcus jackson, our video production specialist, 40 00:04:29,630 --> 00:04:31,990 jessica pounds our multimedia specialist, and carrie chavez, our website content coordinator. 41 00:04:34,910 --> 00:04:34,910 these individuals are truly among the top public communicators in texas, 42 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:43,270 which I already knew, but the awards only confirmed it. We were second only to the city of mckinney, 43 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:48,370 who took home 11 awards, to our 10. For a city of our size that speaks volume 44 00:04:50,690 --> 00:04:53,310 about the caliber of this team and the work they produce. I could easily brag on them all day, 45 00:04:55,150 --> 00:04:58,565 but I will jump to the awards because I know you have a full schedule tonight. The first, we did receive four first place trophies, 46 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:04,840 and the first ones for the explore btx blog, jessica partners with the economic development team 47 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:09,920 to highlight new things to do in town each month. The love shouldn't hurt poster is 48 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,600 collin's powerful campaign offered a discreet way for victims of domestic violence to seek help. 49 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:21,680 this police piece was even recognized by congressman roger williams on the floor of the us house of representatives. 50 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:25,960 poorly drawn pets campaign was jessica's creative idea to raise funds for 51 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:32,080 the shelters new adoption trailer and had all of our staff drawing hilarious pet portraits, 52 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:37,620 which helped both drive awareness and donations. The best use of photography, 53 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,060 jessica again captured adoptable pets, paired with our public safety personnel creating compelling and heartwarming images. 54 00:05:46,395 --> 00:05:48,850 moving on to the second place categories, an award for collin's video, 55 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:50,840 unveiling the police department's new vehicle design with the help of legos. 56 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,745 calendar for a cause, and was a shelter project led by jessica. 57 00:05:59,090 --> 00:06:01,610 pet owners paid to feature their pets in the calendar, allowing us to produce it at no cost. 58 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:07,570 it received both awards in special publication, and most creative with lease dollars. 59 00:06:10,305 --> 00:06:12,660 best use of vertical video. Video, again, was tied to jessica's leadership in 60 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,695 shelter marketing and our campaign to raise funds for the adoption trailer, and a public education video produced by marcus that shared 61 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:25,340 a cardiac arrest survivor story and promoted cpr awareness. This video is part of a broader campaign led by tina, 62 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,880 who partnered with the fire department to reinvent their cpr classes. Now branded as save a life saturday. 63 00:06:34,135 --> 00:06:37,980 as a result, their monthly classes are consistently filled up. Finally, we earn third place for btx bob, 64 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,450 a fun and informative campaign developed by katie brown in public works and brought to life through collaboration with marcus. 65 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,130 please join me in congratulating this exceptional team, and on behalf of the entire group, 66 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:52,160 we want to thank council, city management, and all the departments that we get the honor to 67 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,940 represent as for your continued support of our communication efforts. Your trust allows us to do meaningful, 68 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,000 impactful work that truly serves our community. 69 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:12,970 >> council, if you would like to come down and take pictures. Council? 70 00:09:28,650 --> 00:09:30,830 thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to 2c, community interest items. 71 00:09:34,045 --> 00:09:34,045 >> I have a few. 72 00:09:38,330 --> 00:09:41,990 hold on. Yes, I followed larry's lead, and I wrote it all down. 73 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:43,250 >> you got a minute. 74 00:09:48,650 --> 00:09:52,020 >> I'm hurrying. Now I can't find it. I'd like to take a moment and recognize hidden creek golf course. 75 00:09:56,375 --> 00:09:57,750 since our last meeting, I felt compelled to see it for myself. 76 00:10:00,565 --> 00:10:02,510 I'm so glad I did. I even picked up a new to me set of clubs, 77 00:10:05,210 --> 00:10:08,790 and my husband and I have been visiting a couple of times a week. I must say, I've been genuinely impressed. 78 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:14,650 lately, I've been on a mission to discover and appreciate the beauty that surrounds us right here in burleson. 79 00:10:19,210 --> 00:10:23,090 hidden creek has become one of those special places that really captures what makes the community so wonderful. 80 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:29,050 a few moments really stood out to me. A father watching his young daughter golf turned to her and said, 81 00:10:34,130 --> 00:10:37,035 "that was beautiful. Good job, baby." while waiting for range balls to be reloaded, 82 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:43,050 a man who had no idea who I was, started chatting with me. 83 00:10:44,975 --> 00:10:47,975 he said, "my wife and I have a membership. We pay $30 a month. 84 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:52,650 it's our time together. Just have to watch out for those sprinklers at 8:30." 85 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:56,600 I saw two young people in aggie t shirts on a first date. 86 00:11:02,235 --> 00:11:03,830 one was from mansfield, the other had just graduated from centennial. 87 00:11:06,830 --> 00:11:09,970 the young man will be playing golf at texas a&m. Hearing their laughter and conversation from a few feet away was just heartwarming. 88 00:11:15,060 --> 00:11:18,970 I share all of this because this is the burleson we are building; a place where families, couples, 89 00:11:21,010 --> 00:11:23,870 and friends come together to create memories. Hidden creek is a shining example of 90 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:26,790 a community investment that brings people joy, connection, and pride. 91 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:33,490 it's more than a golf course. It's a gathering place, and it's something we can all be proud of. 92 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:41,580 way to go hidden creek. My next one. I'm going to not cry. 93 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:46,020 after spending a few days volunteering at the centerpoint volunteer fire department, 94 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,900 known locally as the command, just outside of kerrville, texas, I came home with a lot of my mind, 95 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,980 and I kept asking myself, what would you do, in burleson, 96 00:12:02,465 --> 00:12:04,300 if a natural disaster hit? Are we prepared? What emergencies are we vulnerable to? 97 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:11,560 what plans are in place to protect our first responders, public works crews, distressed citizens, 98 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,415 volunteers, and even the media? These are important questions, 99 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:22,170 so I reached out to fire chief casey davis, he and joe laster, 100 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:25,770 our emergency operations manager, responded right away and sat down with me 101 00:12:28,770 --> 00:12:32,570 to go over our city's emergency preparedness plans. We had a great conversation about the what ifs, 102 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:35,755 and looked closely at the resources and response strategies we have in place. 103 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:44,220 one of the key things we discussed is the cert program, community emergency response team. 104 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:49,620 this is a volunteer based initiative that equips residents with vital skills in disaster response, 105 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,260 such as fire safety, basic first aid, search and rescue, and team coordination. 106 00:13:00,845 --> 00:13:00,845 cert trained volunteers play a crucial role during real emergencies 107 00:13:05,980 --> 00:13:05,980 and are also active in supporting local events and preparedness efforts. 108 00:13:11,020 --> 00:13:11,020 we're currently gearing up for our next cert basic training course this fall, 109 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,900 and we're looking for new participants. This training is completely free and open to all members of the public. 110 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:25,280 if you've ever asked, how can I help or what can I do to support our community? 111 00:13:28,890 --> 00:13:31,080 this is your opportunity. Also, don't miss our burleson emergency preparedness fair happening on saturday, 112 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:36,580 september 28th, 2025, at the brick. 113 00:13:40,595 --> 00:13:43,630 this event will bring together first responders, local organizations, and vendors, 114 00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:47,370 to promote public safety and emergency readiness through hands on family friendly activities. 115 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:54,395 cert will play a big role in this year's fair, and it's a great chance to learn more and get involved. 116 00:13:57,850 --> 00:13:57,850 we are fortunate to have a community full of people who are ready and willing to help. 117 00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:05,210 if you've ever said, "I want to help when it really matters," this is your chance to get trained, 118 00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:10,430 get informed, and be part of something meaningful. I truly invite you to join us. 119 00:14:12,390 --> 00:14:14,475 let's get ready together. Now, I'm done. Do you want me to talk more? 120 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:18,880 >> I want to thank the lions club for the parade, 121 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:27,590 and thank chief cordell for chauffering and me and alexa round. 122 00:14:33,950 --> 00:14:33,950 I had a blast. We had so much fun out there. The weather was great. 123 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:41,185 I also want to welcome our new recruits, valeria figueroa and also austen zimmerman, 124 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:48,210 who just graduated the police academy. Welcome on board. But I'm going to talk about my favorite nodehead and that's stacy singleton. 125 00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:53,330 stacy is really a prime example of what we have in burleson. 126 00:14:59,390 --> 00:15:02,945 he has been in kirk county helping with the recovery. Hats off to you, bud. Proud of you. 127 00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:15,500 >> thank you, mayor and council. That will bring us to section 3, changes to the posted agenda. 128 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:20,420 3.a is items to be continued or withdrawn, and 3.b are items to be withdrawn from 129 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,030 the consent agenda for separate discussion by the city council, staff, or members in the public in attendance. 130 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:30,460 >> madam secretary, I'd request that we remove item 5.d, I, 131 00:15:36,095 --> 00:15:36,095 j and o from consideration tonight due to the cancellation of our tiff and 4.b meeting, 132 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,555 and five all of these items will be coming back. 5.o is administratively removed for me addressing some purchasing items. 133 00:15:50,295 --> 00:15:50,295 >> those are items on the consent agenda this evening. Is there anything else? 134 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,195 that'll move us on to section 4, citizens appearance. Each person in attendance who desires to speak to 135 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:07,835 the city council on an item not posted on the agenda, should speak during this section. 136 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,570 speaker card must be filled out and turned into the city secretary prior to addressing the city council. 137 00:16:14,405 --> 00:16:17,150 each speaker will be given three minutes to speak. Each person in attendance who desires to speak to 138 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,250 the city council on an item posted on the agenda, shall speak when that item is called forward for consideration. 139 00:16:25,445 --> 00:16:29,090 at this time, I have no speaker cards. Is there anybody in the audience who would like to address the city council on an item not 140 00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:31,190 listed on the agenda? There are none. 141 00:16:35,615 --> 00:16:35,615 mayor, that'll move us on to section 5, consent agenda. 142 00:16:40,115 --> 00:16:40,115 all items on the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city council, 143 00:16:45,485 --> 00:16:47,945 and we'll be enacted with one motion. There'll be no separate discussion of the items, 144 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:53,390 and approval of the consent agenda authorizes the city manager to implement each item in accordance with staff recommendations. 145 00:16:57,155 --> 00:16:57,155 this evening, consent agenda is items 5.a through 5.c, and 146 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:03,680 5.e through 5.h, 5.k through 5.n, 5.p through 5.u. 147 00:17:12,725 --> 00:17:12,725 >> is there a motion? 148 00:17:18,310 --> 00:17:20,060 >> I'll move to a proof. >> a motion by adam and a second by victoria, 149 00:17:28,355 --> 00:17:28,355 please vote. Pass, unanimous. 150 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,665 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to item 6.a, etj release petition for 1700 tarver road, case 25-176. 151 00:17:51,495 --> 00:17:51,495 tonight's to consider and take possible action on a petition for release from 152 00:17:55,790 --> 00:17:59,450 the city of burleson's extraterritorial jurisdiction for approximately 27 acres of land addressed as 1700 tarver road. 153 00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:07,730 the staff presenter this evening is tony mcilwain, development services director, mr. Mcllwain. 154 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:12,245 >> yes. Thank you, madam city secretary. Mayor and council, mr. Baisden with renfrew street holdings limited, 155 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:16,310 filed a petition for the release of his property at 1,700 tarver 156 00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:20,510 road from the city's etj on june 17th. 157 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:29,000 I'll not go through the presentation unless prompted to do so by you, but your options on tonight's item are to 158 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:32,240 approve the petition or to take no action on the petition. 159 00:18:36,845 --> 00:18:36,845 again, if it's the council's desire to not grant the petition, 160 00:18:41,195 --> 00:18:44,990 the city attorney recommends that the council take no action, on item as opposed to formally denying the petition. 161 00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:51,785 I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> any questions? 162 00:18:58,030 --> 00:18:58,030 >> do we agree with no action on this? 163 00:19:02,290 --> 00:19:05,300 we're going to take no action on this time. >> yes, sir. 164 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:07,990 >> thank you. That brings us to section 7, development applications 7. 165 00:19:13,940 --> 00:19:13,940 a. Excuse me,1679 southwest wilshire, case 25-128, 166 00:19:20,705 --> 00:19:22,940 hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on a zoning ordinance change request 167 00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:28,310 from gr general retail to gr general retail with a specific use permit for a liquor store. 168 00:19:32,495 --> 00:19:36,275 this is before the city council on first and final reading. The staff presenter is tony mcilwain development services director. 169 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,295 mr. Mcllwain, once again. >> thank you. Mayor and council, as the city secretary just mentioned, 170 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:45,230 this property is located at 1679 southwest wilshire. 171 00:19:49,235 --> 00:19:51,425 that's an old aerial on the screen. This is a developed site with an applicant looking for 172 00:19:55,010 --> 00:19:55,010 council's consideration for sup approval for a liquor store. 173 00:20:00,605 --> 00:20:03,530 this is an urban mixed use designation in the city with the current zoning of general retail. 174 00:20:06,875 --> 00:20:06,875 we've got the parcel polygon highlighted in white on the left hand side of your screen, 175 00:20:13,790 --> 00:20:13,790 and then the blue area some round on the property on the right hand side. 176 00:20:19,865 --> 00:20:23,360 the building supplemental regulations, we've got on the screen. 177 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:27,680 we have our standards. This particular site is not the 5,000 square foot standard that the city has set up, 178 00:20:33,515 --> 00:20:37,250 is approximately excuse me 3,000 square feet. They do meet the provisions regarding proposed distance from any other liquor store. 179 00:20:44,525 --> 00:20:44,525 the location does not include a walk up or drive through or drive up windows. 180 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,870 independent entrance will be available on the site and it will be physically partitioned from any of the retail space, 181 00:20:57,710 --> 00:20:57,710 and they meet the other provisions that we have on the screen. 182 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:04,360 we provided public notices to property owners within 300 feet of the site and 183 00:21:09,905 --> 00:21:13,550 published the notice of the public hearing in the newspaper and posted 184 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,515 signs on the property received no formal opposition. P&z's recommendation was via vote of 7-0 to recommend approval. 185 00:21:23,045 --> 00:21:23,045 I'll answer any questions that you have prior to opening the public hearing. 186 00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:29,170 >> any questions? Is there a motion. 187 00:21:33,905 --> 00:21:33,905 >> mayor. Open the public hearing. 188 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:39,950 >> I'm sorry. I want to open the public hearing at 5:52. 189 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:44,390 is there anybody in the audience who would like to speak on this? 190 00:21:48,490 --> 00:21:48,490 then I'll close the public hearing at 5:53. 191 00:21:52,895 --> 00:21:52,895 is there a motion on this? 192 00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:57,490 >> I make a motion to approve the sep. 193 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,630 >> is there a second? >> I have a motion by larry and a second by alexa, 194 00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:20,030 please vote. Pass is unanimous. 195 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:30,500 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us, sorry. 196 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:32,660 that brings us to 7.b, 138 north wilson street, suite a. 197 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on a zoning ordinance change request from 198 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,370 "c" commercial to "c" commercial with a specific use permit for indoor commercial amusements as an escape room. 199 00:22:51,335 --> 00:22:54,350 this is before city council on first and final reading. The staff presenters. Once again, 200 00:22:55,790 --> 00:22:59,450 tony mcilwain, director of development services. >> thank you. Mayor and council. We have interesting application tonight submitted by robyn reyna, 201 00:23:04,610 --> 00:23:07,880 who's the applicant for the phobia room. This is an escape room that she's looking to open here in burleson. 202 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:14,020 these type of indoor amusements are allowed per sup, 203 00:23:18,935 --> 00:23:21,020 which is why she's petitioning for that tonight to go along with her commercial zoning district. 204 00:23:24,425 --> 00:23:24,425 this is a commercial area that's within the old town overlay. 205 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:31,480 this is our street view picture. 206 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:35,915 we've highlighted the suite that she's going to look to occupy in that golden color, 207 00:23:41,930 --> 00:23:41,930 so you can get some idea of where it's going to be if approved. 208 00:23:46,245 --> 00:23:46,245 we asked for a layout not to give any trade secrets away, 209 00:23:50,650 --> 00:23:50,650 but this is the proposal renovations that she's looking to do with existing walls, 210 00:23:56,955 --> 00:23:56,955 and then some proposals to make some changes within the lease space. 211 00:24:01,685 --> 00:24:01,685 you'll see two entry points located within the building. 212 00:24:07,330 --> 00:24:10,445 in addition to this sup request, she's looking to propose an outdoor patio. 213 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,280 that's a sketch that they provided to city staff for review. 214 00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:17,450 this would be for patrons to utilize while they're at her location. 215 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:28,370 again, we provided notice to those surrounding property owners as well as in the newspaper, 216 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,905 received no formal opposition. P&z's recommendation to you is by vote of 7-0 to approve the indoor amusement, 217 00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:39,710 as well as the patio seating area and staff also is supportive of the request. 218 00:24:47,905 --> 00:24:50,320 miss reyna is in attendance tonight, but I'll answer any questions that you may have 219 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,985 prior to opening the public hearing, mr. Mayor. >> where's the patio going to be? 220 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:00,500 >> of the north side. 221 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:04,570 >> can you please come forward and state your name for the record, please? 222 00:25:09,035 --> 00:25:12,170 >> thank you. My name is robyn reyna. If you're facing the building, 223 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:16,250 the north side would be on the far left right now. It's more like a just like a gravel pit, 224 00:25:18,875 --> 00:25:22,520 some weeds and stuff. That's what's there right now. >> that's all I needed to. I'm fine, anybody else? 225 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:28,630 >> look at that, mike. I'm familiar with that building. 226 00:25:33,245 --> 00:25:36,995 hardly any parking in that place. Business hours are going to be wild because you have other businesses open during the day. 227 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,350 is there going to be enough parking? Or we have a back entrance? There's no back entrance to those places at all. 228 00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:48,950 >> I've spoken to the landlord about it, and he is planning on adding additional parking around the north side, 229 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,390 so we had to cut down on our patio space so that he could add some wrap around parking that comes up. 230 00:26:00,575 --> 00:26:04,025 it'll extend what's already there at the front, and then wrap around the north side. 231 00:26:06,590 --> 00:26:09,245 >> I'm fine with this. I just don't know anything about it. Will it be during the day or evening. 232 00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:15,650 >> we probably won't be open on monday and tuesday. I'll actually probably keep similar hours to the business that was there, 233 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,230 which was ax throwing, and we'll probably be open from 4 o'clock to about 10 o'clock at night. 234 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,260 >> thanks. >> anybody else? I'm going to open the public hearing at 5:57. Thank you. 235 00:26:36,575 --> 00:26:36,575 is there anybody else in the audience who'd like to speak on this? 236 00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:41,110 then I will close the public hearing also at 5:57. Is there a motion? 237 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,080 >> I make a motion to approve sup case 25-145. 238 00:26:58,370 --> 00:27:01,130 >> motion bear and a second by feel. Please vote. Pass is unanimous. 239 00:27:09,490 --> 00:27:11,750 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to section 8, general. 240 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,270 8.a is to hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance renaming a portion of county road 241 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:20,330 1016 between county road 1016b and county road 914 to chisholm summit boulevard. 242 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:30,350 this is before the city council on first and final reading. Staff presenter is tony mcilwain, development services director. 243 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,790 >> mayor, council, this is the first of two street name changes that I'll be presenting to you. 244 00:27:41,795 --> 00:27:43,895 as miss campos mentioned, ra development is developing a portion of 245 00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:47,210 roadway that will realign portions of existing county road 1016. 246 00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:52,580 their request to you tonight is to rename a portion of county road 1016 247 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:58,880 from county road 914 heading west to county road 1016b to chisholm summit boulevard. 248 00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:09,260 this is the roadway connection that we have illustrated in the 2023 thoroughfare plan with 249 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:12,560 the connection point being that dotted area that we have the arrow pointing to. 250 00:28:20,135 --> 00:28:20,135 then you see the orientation of the roadway of the project as it hits west. 251 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:27,710 this is a major arterial in the city's thoroughfare plan. 252 00:28:32,530 --> 00:28:36,440 this graphic was put together by city staff that gives you an idea of the full extent of the road, 253 00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:43,760 and the extent of the road that their street name change they're looking to have for county road 1016. 254 00:28:47,945 --> 00:28:47,945 excuse me. If approved, 255 00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:53,090 street name change will affect the addresses of five abutting property owners. 256 00:28:57,455 --> 00:29:01,400 staff provided notice of the public hearing to the property owners and in the star telegram. I actually made a mistake on the first letters and provided 257 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,710 the second notice just to make sure we're covered for tonight. But those names listed at the bottom 258 00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:14,240 right are according to the johnson county appraisal district. If there's a change in property recently that's not accounted for, 259 00:29:18,515 --> 00:29:18,515 we're required to notice in accordance with the property tax records. 260 00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:27,710 with regard to the city's naming policy, adopted in resolution r-1162-09 reserves the right to initiate renaming of a street, 261 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:37,400 if it determines a name change is appropriate to eliminate driver confusion, enhance economic development, 262 00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:43,430 to improve emergency response or other circumstances which in the decision of the council necessitate the street be renamed. 263 00:29:46,925 --> 00:29:49,370 staff is of the determination that street name change request satisfies the above reference criteria. 264 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:52,430 staff recommend city council approve an ordinance renaming that portion of 265 00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:56,690 county road 1016 to chisholm summit boulevard, 266 00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:03,995 and then amend the official map of the city of burleson. As of the date of this meeting, 267 00:30:05,945 --> 00:30:09,380 I've not received any phone calls nor had any conversations with any of the individuals that we direct mailed regarding the street name change. 268 00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:16,370 people may be in attendance tonight, but we just haven't received any calls. 269 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,895 that concludes my presentation, mr. Mayor, if you want to ask questions or open the public hearing. 270 00:30:27,690 --> 00:30:27,690 >> is there any questions on council? 271 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:36,700 >> then I'll open the public hearing at 6:01. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak on this? 272 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:41,520 then I'll close the public hearing at 6:02, 273 00:30:46,465 --> 00:30:46,465 and I'll entertain a motion. 274 00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:56,820 >> I'll make a motion to approve the renaming. 275 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,815 >> I have a motion by alexa and a second by phil. Please vote. Passes unanimous. 276 00:31:14,910 --> 00:31:18,475 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to 8b, hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance renaming that portion of county road 914, 277 00:31:24,655 --> 00:31:24,655 located between county road 1020 and county road 1016 to lakewood drive, 278 00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:35,920 and designating the roadway extension from county road 1016 to farm to market 1902 as lakewood drive. 279 00:31:39,955 --> 00:31:42,970 this is before city council on first and final reading. Staff presenter is tony mcilwain. 280 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:46,855 once again, director of development services. >> I'll sit down after this. I promise. 281 00:31:49,165 --> 00:31:49,165 this street name change mayor and council is for lakewood drive. 282 00:31:53,695 --> 00:31:56,755 as you know, this has been in the hopper for a while, for us to bring this to you. 283 00:31:58,165 --> 00:31:59,950 it is actually two fold tonight. It's to approve the renaming of county road 914, 284 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,655 which is now owned and maintained by the city to lakewood drive. Also approve the naming of the roadway extension, 285 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,280 which we consider greenfield project in the 2023 mobility plan to lakewood drive. 286 00:32:17,005 --> 00:32:18,970 just as a reminder, anytime there's a greenfield roadway project, 287 00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:25,135 we have to have the council name that per ordinance. We're combining these efforts into one action tonight. 288 00:32:28,675 --> 00:32:32,500 back on june 7 of 2021, 380 economic development agreement was approved with the developer of chisholm summit. 289 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:40,240 per that agreement, the developer is responsible for designing and constructing extension of 290 00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:42,790 lakewood drive from just south of county road 1020 to fm 1902. 291 00:32:48,685 --> 00:32:52,420 that phase of road construction is complete, I believe we're still putting in some landscaping things of the like, 292 00:32:56,605 --> 00:33:00,430 and a temporary connection fm 1902 has been done. As a result of these actions and requirements, 293 00:33:03,535 --> 00:33:03,535 staff is recommending a street name change renaming the entire facility between 294 00:33:08,110 --> 00:33:08,110 fm 1902 and county road 1020 to lakewood drive. 295 00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:14,150 mayor and council, this is the thoroughfare plan that shows 296 00:33:18,750 --> 00:33:22,740 the lakewood drive extension that's been constructed and also the segment of county road 914 down toward 1020. 297 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:36,280 again, it's another major arterial on the city's thoroughfare plan. We've got a map that shows portions of the roadway dedicated per plate, 298 00:33:43,135 --> 00:33:45,490 the existing county road 914, which affects the surrounding property owners, 299 00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:50,440 and then the area that you see in the middle in pink is dedicated by a separate instrument. 300 00:33:53,305 --> 00:33:57,025 that will require an ordinance which will be incorporated in tonight's actions if you approve this. 301 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,225 again, we have five abutting property owners, we provided notice to them as well as in the start telegram. 302 00:34:07,405 --> 00:34:10,570 we provided the notice in the start telegram at least 10 days prior so that we allow enough time for people to respond. 303 00:34:14,275 --> 00:34:17,560 I did not personally receive any responses from anybody regarding the street name change for this. 304 00:34:20,305 --> 00:34:23,710 I'm not aware of my staff receiving anything as well. Again, you have the authority with 305 00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:30,175 you through this resolution to approve a street name change. Staff is of the opinion and determination and recommendation to you that should occur. 306 00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:35,410 we recommend the renaming of county route 914 between 1020 and 1016 of lakewood drive. 307 00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:44,230 we want you to officially designate the roadway extension as lakewood drive and then amend the official map. 308 00:34:48,805 --> 00:34:51,370 I'll answer any questions that you have, mayor and council, prior to open the public hearing. 309 00:34:54,385 --> 00:34:54,385 >> anyone? I'll open the public hearing at 6:05. 310 00:35:00,175 --> 00:35:03,720 is there anyone in the audience that I'd like to speak on this? Then I'll close the public hearing at 6:06. Is there a motion? 311 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:13,960 >> I'd like to make a motion to first renaming the portion of county road 914 located between 312 00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:16,420 county road 1020 and county road 1016 to lakewood drive, second, 313 00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:21,210 officially designate the roadway extension from county road 1016 to fm 314 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:25,440 1902 as lakewood drive and third amend the official map of the city of burleson. 315 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,720 >> I have a motion by larry and a second by alexa, please vote. Passes unanimous. 316 00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:46,350 >> thank you, mayor and council. >> thank you, mayor and council. 317 00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:50,365 that brings us to 8c, consider the use of eminent domain to condemn property and consider 318 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:54,640 resolution number cso 5842-07-2025, 319 00:36:00,715 --> 00:36:04,660 authorizing the filing of eminent domain proceedings for the purpose of obtaining the necessary real property for drainage and roadway improvements as part of 320 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:12,670 the hooper business park drainage improvement and realignment of county road 1019 project to serve existing and new developments in the city. 321 00:36:19,225 --> 00:36:21,760 the staff presenter this evening is michelle mccullough, deputy director, city engineer. Michelle. 322 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,070 >> thank you. Good evening, everyone. As ms. Campos said, 323 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,000 my name is michelle mccullough, deputy director of development services. 324 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,400 I believe you have seen this in the past. This is our hooper business park drainage project, 325 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,080 and what we need to do is acquire a piece of property that is 326 00:36:46,075 --> 00:36:46,075 included in one person's ownership. 327 00:36:51,235 --> 00:36:51,235 this currently is a section of roadway at the elbow of 1019 up to fm 1902. 328 00:37:02,365 --> 00:37:05,500 as part of the design, the north pond will outfall onto this property, 329 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,000 so we are also looking to acquire a drainage easement. 330 00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:18,790 as mentioned, the roadway that is currently there, we will be realigning that to go out to what is 331 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:22,840 going to eventually be the realignment of fm 1902 to lakewood. 332 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:28,500 condemnation process will provide a clear title to this property. 333 00:37:33,655 --> 00:37:36,700 the staff recommendation is to authorize the use of eminent domain and approve the resolution. 334 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,850 I'm here to answer any questions you have. >> any questions? Is there a motion? 335 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:49,020 >> I move that the city council of the city of burleson authorize the use of 336 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:57,370 the power of eminent domain to acquire the land and drainage easement described in resolution number cso number 5842-07-2025 337 00:38:03,355 --> 00:38:03,355 as presented specifically a 0.453 acre 19,738 square feet, 338 00:38:10,090 --> 00:38:10,090 tract of land on property described in document number 2014-23765, 339 00:38:17,785 --> 00:38:19,525 official records johnson county, texas, and a 0.029 acre 1,254 square feet, 340 00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:24,490 permanent drainage easement on property described in document number 2014-23765, 341 00:38:30,925 --> 00:38:33,280 official records johnson county, texas, for the purpose of construction and maintenance of drainage and roadway improvements 342 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:37,060 as part of the hooper business park drainage improvements and realignment of 343 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:45,100 county road 1019 project to serve existing and new development in the city and for other public purposes as permitted by law. 344 00:38:49,390 --> 00:38:49,390 I further move to adopt resolution number cso 5842-07-2025 as presented. 345 00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:57,235 the first record vote will apply to all units of property to be condemned. 346 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,160 >> I have a motion by adam and a second by alexa, of which you talked longer than alexa did a while ago. 347 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:11,840 please vote. That is unanimous. 348 00:39:20,105 --> 00:39:24,025 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to 8d, consider and take possible action on an ordinance, 349 00:39:27,085 --> 00:39:27,085 establishing a 30 mile/hour speed limit along county road 914 between 350 00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:33,190 county road 1021 and 155 feet north of county road 914a. 351 00:39:40,165 --> 00:39:44,140 this is before city council on first and final reading. The staff presented this evening is eric thompson, 352 00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:49,015 director of public works. Mr. Thompson. >> thank you, miss campos, and good evening, mayor and council. 353 00:39:52,645 --> 00:39:55,330 we have two different roadways, but they have relatively similar recommendations from staff, 354 00:39:59,170 --> 00:39:59,170 and that's that we establish 30 mile an hour speed zones for each of them. 355 00:40:04,975 --> 00:40:04,975 I'll start with a little bit of background on county road 714, 356 00:40:09,085 --> 00:40:11,995 sometimes known as south dobson street. On the aerial to the right, 357 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,160 we start at hidden creek at the north. Every time that line changes color from green to blue or blue to 358 00:40:22,690 --> 00:40:22,690 yellow or back to blue or back to yellow or blue and green, 359 00:40:27,835 --> 00:40:27,835 the speed limit officially changes on county road 714. 360 00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:31,930 that segment is a mix of city and county maintained portions of the road. 361 00:40:37,075 --> 00:40:38,550 the speed limit, again, it bounces back and forth between 30 and 40 miles an hour. 362 00:40:42,015 --> 00:40:44,565 city and county staff are supportive of a consistent speed limit of 30 for the entire stretch 363 00:40:48,825 --> 00:40:48,825 from hidden creek at the north to fm 731 or john jones on the west. 364 00:40:55,985 --> 00:40:59,375 actually on july 12, the county commissioners court 365 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:03,960 approved an order for the county portions of this road to become 30 mile/hour officially. 366 00:41:10,855 --> 00:41:14,410 this would basically be complimentary action on the city's part so that we would result in 130 mile an hour speed limit. 367 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:19,510 a little more background. 368 00:41:24,775 --> 00:41:24,775 this is the city portions in the middle are really only the front edge of russell farm. 369 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:35,695 that's the rectangle to the left there in yellow, and then the new pecan grove development 370 00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:40,810 that's under construction right now a little further to the west, but you see there's a couple of 100 feet of county 371 00:41:43,810 --> 00:41:43,810 maintained 714 in the middle between those two city segments. 372 00:41:48,835 --> 00:41:48,835 russell farm, you are probably aware was donated to the city back in 2011. 373 00:41:54,205 --> 00:41:56,830 pecan grove will be 81 residential lots. It's on the construction now that was annexed into the city november of 2018. 374 00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:02,670 then we also have a couple of significant vertical and horizontal curves along the way, 375 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,190 which sometimes challenge sight distance. From a professional staff perspective, 376 00:42:14,665 --> 00:42:18,295 the 30 mile/hour speed limit is really supported, and that's part of how we got here today. 377 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:26,170 now moving to the west out to county road 914, you've heard about that sum in the previous few items. 378 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,040 here, we're talking about the section of 379 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:36,220 914 south of where you just renamed a couple of agenda items ago. 380 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:46,195 this will be between county road 1021 on the south. This map has turned almost 90 degrees for just to make it fit the slide a little better. 381 00:42:52,930 --> 00:42:55,750 north to the left. From 1021 on the south up to 914a, 382 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:00,270 that's a section that's got a lot of challenges with the road conditions. 383 00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:05,980 there's a lot of truck traffic with a lot of construction out in this part of the area. 384 00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:15,910 between the narrow road with, significant truck traffic and the road conditions, 385 00:43:20,110 --> 00:43:20,110 staff would also support lowering the speed limit from 40-30. 386 00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:25,410 until such time as the city can improve the roadway. 387 00:43:30,505 --> 00:43:32,260 you got a couple pictures on the lower right to give you a little bit of idea of the conditions. 388 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:42,220 video probably would have been a little better to help you get a feel for the speed that some of the vehicles are traveling out there. 389 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,370 but I think if you drove it, you'd probably agree that 40 is probably a little more than we would consider safe. 390 00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:56,100 more background, staffs install some warning signs to help 391 00:44:01,885 --> 00:44:01,885 at least give the message to drivers that they would be well advised to slow down. 392 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,870 we've got the rough road and advisory, 30 mile an hour speed limit signs on either end. 393 00:44:14,095 --> 00:44:16,780 the action that we're asking for tonight is actually to establish the regulatory speed limit. 394 00:44:19,225 --> 00:44:19,225 the speed limit that could actually be enforced as 30. 395 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:26,880 mentioned a couple, at least once about future improvements, potentially. 396 00:44:32,125 --> 00:44:36,100 staff is working on some funding options for council's consideration in the future of how we might go about improving this roadway, 397 00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:40,180 so that could be a project that starts as early as the next fiscal year, 398 00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:48,445 and it will likely require some minor land acquisition. There are some drainage needs that would need to be addressed as well, 399 00:44:51,610 --> 00:44:51,610 so that could compound the land acquisition needs. 400 00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:59,215 then there's also, as you're well aware, additional development, out in this area, 401 00:45:01,765 --> 00:45:01,765 there may very well be a need for a second sewer line to run down the same roadway. 402 00:45:09,085 --> 00:45:10,930 we would love to be able to coordinate all that and make it all happen as part of one project. 403 00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:17,830 again, bottom right, you've got a couple of pictures of conditions. 404 00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:21,100 everyone likes to use the part of the pavement that's in best condition, 405 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:25,240 but only one vehicle can do that at a time in one direction. 406 00:45:30,925 --> 00:45:30,925 it's making for some challenging conditions. 407 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:35,750 >> state law, transportation code gives you the authority 408 00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:39,930 to change speed limits in certain conditions. 409 00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:47,400 this is not the typical one. Typically, you see requests to change speed limits that are based on a traffic study. 410 00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:57,555 in this case, because of conditions and circumstances, there's a carve out in the code that allows you to still change 411 00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:04,155 speed limits provided you meet certain requirements. All those requirements are met. 412 00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:09,570 there's one more that we'd be subject to, which is an annual reporting requirement. 413 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,425 won't read all of that, but if you authorize this speed limit change on 914, 414 00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:24,870 under this section of the transportation code, we would have to produce on 415 00:46:27,810 --> 00:46:27,810 our website and provide to txdot every year by february 1st, I think. 416 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:33,720 a report that gives some data on traffic and speed enforcement. 417 00:46:42,285 --> 00:46:45,480 how many citations were issued by burleson police officers for speeding on this particular section, 418 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:51,880 how many warnings were issued by those same staff, 419 00:46:58,350 --> 00:47:01,905 and then how many vehicle collisions resulted in injury or death that were attributable to speed limit. 420 00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:11,760 it probably sounds maybe a little more cumbersome than it is, I'm not sure that there is. 421 00:47:13,065 --> 00:47:16,170 well, I won't speak to the volume of enforcement out there or how many tickets or citations or warnings are issued, 422 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,770 but we'll be careful to work with the police department to make sure that we can pull that data to get 423 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:25,470 it loaded to the website and sent to txdot according to the requirements. 424 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:31,560 again, we would only have to do this for the county road 914 section, 425 00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:36,770 separate from the 714. 426 00:47:42,830 --> 00:47:42,830 two reports, but each section has its own report. 427 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,320 tonight, we're asking that you approve an ordinance 428 00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:58,120 establishing a 30-mile per hour speed limit along 714, those sections previously mentioned, 429 00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:03,510 and then also would ask that you approve an ordinance establishing a 30-mile per hour speed limit along county road 914. 430 00:48:07,755 --> 00:48:11,520 both of these items are public hearings, so we'll take questions or discussions or we can just go right to the public hearing. 431 00:48:18,195 --> 00:48:21,315 >> I'm sorry. First of all, I didn't read item e into the record because this is a presentation for two items, 432 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,900 so I'll read that item in. Consider and take possible action on an ordinance 433 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:34,140 establishing a 30-mile per hour speed limit along the city's portion of county road 714 between fm 731 and hidden creek parkway. 434 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:44,520 this is before city council on first and final reading. Also, mr. Thompson, 435 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:49,620 there is no listing of a public hearing on these items. >> tony had one, so I wanted one. 436 00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:55,485 [laughter] >> we cannot copy tony. >> I'm going to ask you if there's any questions on d or e. We'll have two votes on that. 437 00:49:01,485 --> 00:49:01,485 is there a motion on d? 438 00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:09,975 >> could you state that you're approving which speed limit, please? >> I move to approve an adjustment to 30-mile per hour speed limit 439 00:49:17,535 --> 00:49:17,535 along cr 914 between county road 1021 and 155 feet north of county road 914a. 440 00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:27,230 >> I have a motion by victoria and a second by alexa. Please vote. 441 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,040 pass is unanimous. Now, 7e. Is there a motion? 442 00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:49,670 >> I move to approve 7e establishing the 30-mile hour speed limit on portions 443 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,040 along county road 714 between fm 731 and hidden creek parkway. 444 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,310 >> I have a motion by adam, second by alexa. Please vote. 445 00:50:15,290 --> 00:50:17,985 pass is unanimous. >> thank you, mayor and council. 446 00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:23,415 that brings us to item 8.f. Consider approval of an ordinance amending the city budget for 447 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,480 fiscal year 2024 through 2025 by increase in appropriations to various funds to accommodate operating and capital needs, 448 00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:41,730 and find also that time is of the essence. This is before city council on first and final reading. 449 00:50:44,925 --> 00:50:47,400 the staff presenter is kevin hennesy, interim director of finance. Kevin? 450 00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:54,765 >> thank you, amanda. Mayor, council, it's a pleasure to be with you this evening to discuss 451 00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:57,180 a proposed amendment to the 2025 fiscal year budget. 452 00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:02,820 what we will do we'll begin by looking at a city wide impact, 453 00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:09,390 broken down by fund, and then we'll dive into each one of those funds, 454 00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:14,745 looking at the purpose of the proposal, as well as the fiscal impact of each one of those items per fund. 455 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,200 we'll begin with the citywide table. Due to the cancellation of the 4b meeting that tommy alluded to earlier, 456 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:30,870 we will have to remove the parks performance fund items from consideration this evening. 457 00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,375 they will be coming back at a later date. But without that considered, 458 00:51:41,955 --> 00:51:41,955 the total amount of the proposal this evening is $2,737,917. 459 00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:55,200 whereas the bulk of these items we'll see in the fora and the erp replacements are items that we've discussed, 460 00:51:59,970 --> 00:51:59,970 as well as been a part of long term planning. 461 00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:04,820 we go from there, we'll look at the general fund. 462 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,200 the beginning item on this is an interdepartmental transfer from 463 00:52:14,550 --> 00:52:14,550 the city manager's office to animal services to cover overtime associated with egret. 464 00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:23,450 a re-wiring of city maintained overhead lights along wilshire, 465 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:28,860 and then another interdepartmental transfer from city manager's office 466 00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:33,270 for a automatic door opener for the senior center front door. 467 00:52:38,655 --> 00:52:38,655 then a contract for lonestar lobbyist firm. 468 00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:48,480 this is how that breaks down at the fund level as we see those interdepartmental transfers net themselves out. 469 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:52,800 the increases to budget consists of their rewiring and the contract for the lobbyist. 470 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,730 which leads us to 4a. The 4a board reviewed this this afternoon. 471 00:53:05,610 --> 00:53:08,865 this is for the purchase of the building at 114 west ellison street for the purpose of economic redevelopment. 472 00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:16,430 the purchase price was $1,100,000. 473 00:53:23,810 --> 00:53:26,520 this brings us to the parks performance fund, which we'll skip over this evening, 474 00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:29,460 but these items again will be brought to you at a future date. 475 00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:34,910 items related to the bartlett. 476 00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:42,825 this is what that will look like in the future. But what brings us forward to the miscellaneous special revenue fund. 477 00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:47,100 this is related to a donation that we received recently. 478 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:51,660 it's to purchase a memorial bench at one of our park facilities. The cost of that. 479 00:53:57,390 --> 00:53:57,390 this is to appropriate the cost of that donation is $8,997. 480 00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:07,845 this brings us to the equipment replacement funds. I do want to mention and remind you that this is for the 2026 replacement items. 481 00:54:12,975 --> 00:54:16,965 we're bringing this to you in advance so that we can order these things in advance. All these items are for 2026 replacements. 482 00:54:20,325 --> 00:54:23,475 these are the five items for the governmental. We do have a generator replacement that's been added throughout the summer. 483 00:54:28,905 --> 00:54:28,905 but the impact on the fund is $557,330. 484 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:41,280 those two big items, the john deere tractor and the generator, making up the bulk of that. 485 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:42,510 but we also have a ford f-550 chevrolet traverse for the police office, 486 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:51,050 as well as some graphics for the fire department. Which brings us to the proprietary equipment replacement fund. 487 00:54:55,095 --> 00:54:57,660 this list is a little bit longer. But we look at f-550, 488 00:55:00,580 --> 00:55:00,580 sprayer, which will also have a gps attachment to it. 489 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,560 it's a little further down the list, but those was added a little bit later in this summer. 490 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,845 a couple of ford rangers, a couple mowers, and f-450, john deere/gator, 491 00:55:18,195 --> 00:55:19,860 as well as a backhoe. There's that gps conversion I alluded to. 492 00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:26,445 the generator, as well as an f-150. The impact on the equipment replacement fund is $797,590. 493 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:34,080 again, this is all for fy 26 replacements that we're proposing a budget amendment for, 494 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,200 so we can order early. 495 00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:47,805 which brings us to the library grants fund. The library received a grant. 496 00:55:50,475 --> 00:55:54,180 the texas library association awarded a $2,000 grant. This proposed budget amendment is to appropriate that award so that 497 00:55:58,770 --> 00:55:58,770 they can spend it on the activities of the library. 498 00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:05,150 with that, the staff recommendation would be to consider approving 499 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,160 a mid-year amendment to increase the appropriations in the amount of 2,737,917, 500 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:23,300 which would need to be mentioned in the motion, but I'll have to defer to the attorney to guide you very specifically on how to do that. 501 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,500 >> mayor, council, what we'd ask you to do tonight is reference, simply, if you moved to approve, 502 00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:37,230 it'd be subject to the removal of the items associated with 4b and then state the amount that mr. Henesy has provided. 503 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:44,720 >> would the removal of 5.of the consent agenda have any effect on this erf? 504 00:56:51,470 --> 00:56:51,470 >> no, sir. That's for this fiscal year, those items. 505 00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:56,850 mr. Thompson, are you correcting me? 506 00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:05,535 >> yeah. We need the amendment, but that item was for the purchase authority of those vehicles. 507 00:57:12,210 --> 00:57:15,510 >> the authorization, we'll still need the amendment, but we'll come back for the purchase. Does that make sense? 508 00:57:18,045 --> 00:57:18,045 >> that makes sense. 509 00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:27,170 >> is there any other questions? Then we're ready to vote. Is there a motion on this? 510 00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:38,510 >> I'll make a motion to approve the amendments. 511 00:57:43,610 --> 00:57:45,630 >> I have a motion by larry, a second by phil, please vote. 512 00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:48,500 >> excuse me. I forgot to say accept the parks performance fund. 513 00:57:52,875 --> 00:57:53,370 >> yes, sir. >> great. That's good. Thank you. Pass is unanimous. 514 00:58:02,715 --> 00:58:05,420 >> thank you. >> thank you, mayor and council. 515 00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:07,890 that brings us to section 9, reports and presentations. 516 00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:15,315 9.a is to receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding 517 00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:17,490 the wicker hill road and green ridge drive improvements. 518 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,470 the staff presented this evening is randy morrison, director of capital engineering. Mr. Morrison? 519 00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:31,950 >> good evening, mayor, city council. My name is randy morrison, 520 00:58:33,570 --> 00:58:35,355 director of capital engineering. This item this evening is to review and discuss 521 00:58:39,435 --> 00:58:39,435 the wicker hill road and green ridge drive improvements project. 522 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,440 to recap on the background, the parks at panchasarp farms development includes 523 00:58:52,605 --> 00:58:52,605 a elementary school site for joshua isd, 524 00:58:57,255 --> 00:58:57,255 and that project is now moving forward, and jisd, 525 00:59:01,905 --> 00:59:01,905 they now have an estimated completion and school opening for the fall semester of 2027. 526 00:59:08,570 --> 00:59:12,345 in june 16th, 2025, staff introduced the wicker hill and greenridge improvements project as 527 00:59:15,930 --> 00:59:15,930 an additional consideration for the fy 26 cip. 528 00:59:20,145 --> 00:59:20,145 the reason it wasn't presented previously is because we were still working 529 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:24,240 closely with jisd on the progress of their project and it is very preliminary, 530 00:59:28,545 --> 00:59:31,995 and we are waiting on some key items, including their traffic impact analysis and the site plan submittals. 531 00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:36,300 that allowed us to determine the improvements that are needed. 532 00:59:41,325 --> 00:59:41,325 based on the discussion from the june 16th council meeting, 533 00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:45,990 council asked for us to consider and look into temporary interim solutions 534 00:59:51,615 --> 00:59:54,600 that the city can move forward with until we can fund the full improvement or full build out alternative. 535 01:00:01,070 --> 01:00:01,070 with that, staff looked additionally at the existing improvements, 536 01:00:08,205 --> 01:00:08,205 and just want to recap on these that were presented on the june 16th meeting. 537 01:00:12,555 --> 01:00:14,730 the existing conditions on the roadway, there's a lot of pavement failures. 538 01:00:17,790 --> 01:00:17,790 the existing overall pavement condition index is 14.6, 539 01:00:22,575 --> 01:00:25,740 which is essentially a failed roadway at this point. There's a lot of concerns with the existing conditions, 540 01:00:28,770 --> 01:00:31,650 as well as some of the drainage improvements. There's three drainage coverts that would need to be improved 541 01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:34,980 and/or replaced if any expansion of the roadway were to take place. 542 01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:45,255 in addition to the pavement condition, the average pavement width is around 20 feet along the corridor, 543 01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:50,820 so it presents additional concerns with bus traffic passing by with opposing traffic. 544 01:00:57,585 --> 01:01:00,990 that's some concerns and one of the primary concerns that joshua isd has presented or brought up in our coordination meetings. 545 01:01:06,315 --> 01:01:06,315 in addition, staff looked at the right of way along this corridor, 546 01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:15,000 and a lot of it is prescriptive right of way and a lot of it needs to be dedicated by the developers that are adjacent to the roadway. 547 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:19,680 in addition to the pavement width and right of way, 548 01:01:24,315 --> 01:01:28,020 we could not perform any widening efforts without going out and perfecting some of the right of way along the corridor. 549 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:33,920 with that information, we took another look at the alternatives. 550 01:01:39,285 --> 01:01:43,020 we're presenting tonight here three alternatives, really. One is a do nothing alternative, 551 01:01:45,345 --> 01:01:45,345 one is a interim solution, 5-10-year interim improvements, 552 01:01:50,295 --> 01:01:52,755 which is estimated around 1.4 million, and then the full build-out option for a full build-out 553 01:01:56,610 --> 01:01:56,610 of the roadway to the ultimate width at 6.9 million. 554 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,435 as I mentioned, alternative 1 is really do nothing. Obviously, this presents additional concerns, 555 01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:12,330 the longevity of the roadway, as well as any potential safety concerns with 556 01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:19,470 the bus traffic that will be added to this roadway. This would more than likely increase operational cost for the public works department. 557 01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:30,230 >> alternative 2, this is a 5-10-year estimated interim improvements; 558 01:02:35,980 --> 01:02:39,335 this would include perfecting the right-of-way. In order to do that, 559 01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:44,420 we would need to have some preliminary schematic design, the drainage improvements that I mentioned earlier. 560 01:02:47,975 --> 01:02:50,645 I would be some upfront preliminary work, also acquiring the right-of-way. 561 01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:56,570 once we acquire the right-of-way, then we can go in and do some temporary improvements, 562 01:02:58,955 --> 01:03:01,370 which would include pulverizing in place, stabilization, some minor widening, 563 01:03:03,665 --> 01:03:05,675 and repaving the roadway. The reason this is identified as an interim improvement 564 01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:12,695 because this would not include building out ultimate improvements. It would not be reconstructing the roadway to an ultimate pavement section. 565 01:03:17,945 --> 01:03:21,140 in our opinion, this would be an inadequate pavement section, but this would provide a safer road, 566 01:03:25,025 --> 01:03:27,155 a better condition that would hold up for some time until we could fund the full buildout. 567 01:03:30,305 --> 01:03:30,305 but this project, also, 568 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:36,140 the funding behind it, it's still considered a maintenance project or at least a portion of it, 569 01:03:39,785 --> 01:03:39,785 and would consume a good portion of the public works street maintenance budget, 570 01:03:44,525 --> 01:03:47,405 if not all of it, for one year. I mentioned the preliminary estimate on this alternative is at 1.4 million, 571 01:03:52,850 --> 01:03:55,355 and that does include some schematic design, right-of-way acquisition, and construction. 572 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,630 the timeline for alternative 2, roughly estimating 18-24 months for this, 573 01:04:06,275 --> 01:04:06,275 this would put us beyond the estimated completion of the school or opening of the school. 574 01:04:12,005 --> 01:04:12,005 that timeline is really dictated by the right-away acquisition and 575 01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:16,190 the preliminary design work that we'd have to start before going to acquire. 576 01:04:23,230 --> 01:04:25,865 now, looking at alternative 3, which is the full build-out alternative, 577 01:04:28,535 --> 01:04:28,535 that would include full design to put together plan, 578 01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:35,405 specifications for us to go to construction. It would include the right-of-way acquisition to perfect the 579 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:38,240 right-of-way and a full buildout with new concrete roadway, 580 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,215 curb, gutter, sidewalks. Almost all of the improvements with the ultimate buildout. 581 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,665 this estimate doesn't include any traffic signal work, assuming that the adjacent development would trigger that at wilshire and wicker hill. 582 01:04:58,465 --> 01:05:00,280 this estimate doesn't include that, and it doesn't include landscaping improvements as well. 583 01:05:03,850 --> 01:05:06,775 ultimately, this would provide us with a brand new roadway fully reconstructed to ultimate improvements. 584 01:05:10,905 --> 01:05:14,360 the project estimate on that is at 6.9 million that includes the design right away and construction. 585 01:05:20,110 --> 01:05:20,110 the timeline on this alternative is roughly 30-36 months, 586 01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:24,830 and a lot of that is also due to right-away acquisition, full design. 587 01:05:29,825 --> 01:05:33,770 but also, if council desires to pursue this route, we would add this to the fy26 cip. 588 01:05:37,010 --> 01:05:40,190 due to timing of that and then getting the project started, we're estimating 30-36 months to complete the project. 589 01:05:47,530 --> 01:05:47,530 with that, staff is seeking direction from counsel and 590 01:05:51,590 --> 01:05:51,590 any discussion on which alternative to pursue. 591 01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:58,715 that includes, again, the do nothing alternative, the interim solution, as well, 592 01:06:01,730 --> 01:06:03,410 the full build out, which would require adding the project to the cip, amending the cip, 593 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:07,760 and we're estimating that adding this to 594 01:06:12,290 --> 01:06:12,290 the cip could have an impact of $0.01 on the tax rate. 595 01:06:17,165 --> 01:06:20,300 I know there's additional information that's coming on that. There's still preliminary numbers, 596 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:21,560 and the estimate could definitely change. 597 01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:33,860 >> we can't do absolutely nothing. The condition that the road is that bad. 598 01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:37,340 we did speak with our financial advisor over the weekend, 599 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,485 and harlan's got some updated information. I do want to just note for the council that everything that we talk about tonight, 600 01:06:49,970 --> 01:06:52,520 as it relates to this, and in my presentation later, assumes a 2% growth rate. 601 01:06:54,305 --> 01:06:56,675 we do not have our certified roles yet. If those numbers come back with the growth rate 602 01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:01,160 that's less than that or different than that, it would have an impact on anything harlan's about to tell you, 603 01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:05,960 as well as what I'll discuss later. >> thank you, tommy. Good evening, 604 01:07:07,970 --> 01:07:11,885 mayor and members of the council. I want to briefly talk a little bit about the finances. We did have a meeting, 605 01:07:13,970 --> 01:07:17,360 a follow-up meeting this past friday with our financial advisor. I want to give you the latest information we have from them. 606 01:07:21,980 --> 01:07:24,245 I'll begin by giving you a little context. Early may, we had a meeting with the finance committee, 607 01:07:27,185 --> 01:07:29,805 and we talked about the cip and funding it. We were basically asking two questions. 608 01:07:32,110 --> 01:07:32,110 should we reduced the cip to stay within 609 01:07:36,130 --> 01:07:36,130 our current debt service tax rate or increase it to fund the existing cip? 610 01:07:44,295 --> 01:07:46,820 they made a recommendation that went on to the full council to adjust the tax rate to fund the full cip, 611 01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:53,210 and the council concurred with that in late may. At that time, we were considering a tax rate of 5.4 $0.07, 612 01:07:58,055 --> 01:07:58,055 but that didn't include the use of the fund balance in the debt service fund. 613 01:08:03,545 --> 01:08:07,490 we've been discussing using the fund balance and drawing it down which we have an additional 3.6 million we could use. 614 01:08:12,245 --> 01:08:14,135 we've talked to the financial advisor about rerunning her numbers and including that as well. 615 01:08:17,150 --> 01:08:17,150 to fund the current cip as proposed, 616 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:21,440 it would require 3.4 cents if you use the fund balance in your debt service fund. 617 01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:32,525 if you would add this additional project, the tax rate increase would go to 3.77, almost four tenths. 618 01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:40,450 the percent increase is the difference. Mended the last bullet is based on her conversation. 619 01:08:44,915 --> 01:08:48,590 the question is, if you're interested in adding this project, which would still be a much 620 01:08:51,290 --> 01:08:54,245 lower of a tax rate increase than we discussed with you in may, but it's really a bit less than four to tenths of a percent. 621 01:09:00,620 --> 01:09:02,750 then the second question would be, do you want to use all of the fund balance of this upcoming year, 622 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,200 as we have been discussing, or do you want to spread that use out over two years? 623 01:09:13,295 --> 01:09:15,530 >> I think the only thing I would say, too, is that we plan with the council for a planned drawdown of the debt service fund. 624 01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:19,970 we would still keep the minimum $1,000,000 that we've discussed per policy. 625 01:09:25,205 --> 01:09:27,080 the drawdown harlan's talking about would still leave approximately 1 million in the debt service fund. 626 01:09:40,060 --> 01:09:42,725 >> we have to do something. But we're in such a money crunch, 627 01:09:45,185 --> 01:09:45,185 and because a cat hadn't given us our numbers. I don't know what to tell you. 628 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:51,560 we can't go over the 3.5 cent because if we don't get that bond, 629 01:09:56,405 --> 01:09:58,820 that tax increase is approved, then we're in a real pickle, right? 630 01:10:01,685 --> 01:10:04,910 is that right? Is it all or nothing on the [inaudible]? >> 3.5 is on the maintenance and operation component portion of the tax rate. 631 01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:11,600 what we're talking about here is the interest in sinking. You're not bound by that same cap there. 632 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,790 >> when are we supposed to get the certified roles? Friday? >> friday. >> theoretically? 633 01:10:20,555 --> 01:10:24,550 >> yes, sir. >> theoretically. >> we talked in may, and we were going to raise the debt rate 5.5 cents. 634 01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:28,790 now it's 3.4, 635 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:36,110 possibly 3.7, if we do option three. I'd do option three. 636 01:10:37,580 --> 01:10:38,630 we're already adding it back, spend the money, get a good road in there and go for it. 637 01:10:41,630 --> 01:10:44,300 but I'm also tempted to table this till the fourth until we get 638 01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:49,565 the certified roles where we can make a good decision. We are not this. >> one of the challenges that we have is that we're going to 639 01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:55,310 be having to finish our tax rate calculation, so I can file the budget. 640 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,750 this is something that we've talked about internally. Now, what we're attempting to try to do is to establish 641 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:03,320 a debt service rate that remains consistent across the five years. 642 01:11:09,035 --> 01:11:09,035 you theoretically could not raise the tax rate this year, 643 01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:15,875 but you'd have to increase it the next. We're trying to be cognizant of the fact that we know that there is going to be one. 644 01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:20,990 you could add this later and adjust the rate accordingly, 645 01:11:27,890 --> 01:11:31,460 or we move with what we've got and then adjust it in the future. You have options, but we need to try to file the budget and do our tax rate calculations. 646 01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:42,785 >> then I'd say I like option three. Add it back to cip. >> the region I agree with is the fact that we go in there and we do a nice, 647 01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:51,320 heavy-duty patch on it. We're spending money. 648 01:11:54,130 --> 01:11:57,890 to redo that to get the final product at some times, is probably so, is that correct? 649 01:12:00,335 --> 01:12:00,335 is what is the fix going to be part of the new construction, 650 01:12:05,945 --> 01:12:09,880 or are we starting over? >> we would have some duplicated efforts or not lost efforts, 651 01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:19,055 right with the right away acquisition and some of the schematic design. But the construction effort, 652 01:12:20,795 --> 01:12:22,550 we would be redoing that with a full reconstruction when we did the final buildout at a later time? 653 01:12:26,650 --> 01:12:29,300 option 2 comes out of m&o money, and option 3, we can put it on the debt rate. 654 01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:32,180 option 3 is good. I don't want to take money from the street maintenance budget. 655 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,720 we need that money for another district. >> we are trying to get the more money at every turn. 656 01:12:42,875 --> 01:12:42,875 then here we're talking about completely emptying out their account 657 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:47,240 to fix one road that will inevitably have to be rebuilt. 658 01:12:52,010 --> 01:12:52,010 if we are considering a tax rate increase for the debt rate, 659 01:12:57,845 --> 01:12:57,845 to adam's point, this is the time to do that. 660 01:13:02,285 --> 01:13:04,100 the unfortunate thing, really, our options are do nothing or fix it completely, 661 01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:10,580 rebuild, because that going in between is just not responsible to empty out an entire maintenance operation budget. 662 01:13:14,435 --> 01:13:17,000 only give it a patch job. But we know an elementary is going in there. 663 01:13:19,925 --> 01:13:23,675 these are those times when the citizens look to us and say, if you knew this was coming, 664 01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,400 why didn't you do it right the first time? I think that as much as it stings, 665 01:13:31,085 --> 01:13:33,830 it's the right thing to do. >> option 3 to me would be the right way to go. 666 01:13:36,710 --> 01:13:39,620 my concern is, as we're talking about the tax rate, do we want to go ahead and run the debt service fund balance down to 1 million, 667 01:13:44,405 --> 01:13:47,105 or do we want to increment it down over a period of years? That would be my only concern in this option. 668 01:13:50,495 --> 01:13:54,080 to keep the debt rate down, we can deplete it down to 1 million in one time. 669 01:13:57,215 --> 01:14:00,170 or we can increment it over two to three years. >> the financial advisor did run two scenarios for us. 670 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:04,070 one, reducing it according to your policy in the first year next year, 671 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,360 and the other one spreading it over two years. It was really cost-neutral because of what the city manager said a moment ago 672 01:14:15,980 --> 01:14:15,980 that the big hump in the debt service rate comes out in a couple of years. 673 01:14:21,125 --> 01:14:21,125 it didn't make a difference if you used it the first year or spread it over two years. 674 01:14:25,940 --> 01:14:29,330 I'd like to mention also we would prefer to have this conversation after we receive the certified numbers as well. 675 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,260 but the way the truth and taxation calendar work in terms of noticing and when the council needs to receive information and provide direction, 676 01:14:40,895 --> 01:14:43,520 it really is such a crunch that we would have to everything would be backed up substantially. 677 01:14:46,490 --> 01:14:50,300 that's why we didn't have that luxury. But we do plan to meet friday. Hopefully, we have all of those certified numbers and 678 01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:54,230 we can get you updated information, and we can make any adjustments necessary. 679 01:14:56,435 --> 01:14:58,850 >> senator, to adam's point, do we need to look at the certification before we talk about this, 680 01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:09,470 or do we need to go ahead and go on? Four option three. >> we're saying, we don't really have the luxury of waiting 681 01:15:11,870 --> 01:15:14,375 until we get it because of the timelines. We're scheduled to come back to you on august 4 with the truth and taxation tax rates, 682 01:15:20,150 --> 01:15:22,820 the no new revenue, the voter approval. To do that, we have to have a projection of 683 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,060 what the debt service schedule is going to be next year. >> I'm getting the temperature of council number 3? 684 01:15:32,180 --> 01:15:36,160 >> alternative 3. >> I don't think we gave. Larry had raised a point of how are we opting 685 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,165 for the single drawdown or the over two years. >> over two years, what we're going to have to do. 686 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:47,080 that keeps us at around $3.34 or $3.43. 687 01:15:54,010 --> 01:15:57,815 >> 3.77 with this project included. >> yes. 688 01:15:58,335 --> 01:15:59,990 >> with this project. >> based on an assumption of 2% growth? 689 01:16:02,885 --> 01:16:04,690 >> that's right. >> I'm sorry, harlan, before you skewed away from that. 690 01:16:09,095 --> 01:16:09,095 john, if there was legislation 691 01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:15,350 passed at the last minute that said they would have to move toward annual reappraisals, 692 01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:21,410 but the tax roles will not have the growth rate, 693 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,955 will that be impacted? That's going to go off of how they initially prepared 694 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,760 their tax rules until we get all this shaken out, as far as whether or not they'll be mandated to have an annual reappraisal. 695 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,325 >> that's an excellent question. Currently, there is a debate whether or 696 01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:43,340 not legislation has already passed that would require the annual appraisals. 697 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:48,800 the way our delinquent tax collection attorney put it, 698 01:16:52,925 --> 01:16:55,475 and he also represents the appraisal district, he said, board can't approve 699 01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:58,760 a reappraisal plan that requires anything less than annual reappraisals. 700 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,880 it places the hands in the chief appraiser, whether or not they elect to follow best business practices for appraisals. 701 01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:17,570 now, of course, johnson county, a central appraisal district, 702 01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:21,410 is in the process of selecting a new chief appraiser, so we can't ask that person at this time. 703 01:17:23,795 --> 01:17:26,480 it puts a little bit of a question mark over our head. But if the plans in terms of every three years go away and they do annual re-appraisals, 704 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,885 then our long-term forecast is changed substantially. In that setting. That is another wild card that we 705 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:43,430 have to consider in forecasting impact on our debt service. 706 01:17:49,630 --> 01:17:52,430 >> until we have more clarity on that, we've elected to not change any of our financial assumptions and be very conservative. 707 01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:00,970 >> option 3. Thank you, sir. 708 01:18:07,690 --> 01:18:09,860 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to nine b receiver report, 709 01:18:12,530 --> 01:18:12,530 hold a discussion and provide staff direction on updates identified 710 01:18:17,165 --> 01:18:17,165 for the 2025-2026 fiscal year employee handbook. 711 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:22,240 the staff presenter this evening is cheryl marthiljohni director of human resources. 712 01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:30,820 >> thank you, ms. Campos. Appreciate that. Good evening, mayor. Members of council. 713 01:18:32,655 --> 01:18:32,655 I come to you this evening to talk about updates for our employee handbook. 714 01:18:38,525 --> 01:18:40,280 just as a reminder, we do an annual policy review as part of our budget process throughout the city. 715 01:18:44,825 --> 01:18:44,825 we take that position to review any updates to our employee policies on 716 01:18:49,190 --> 01:18:51,740 that annual basis as well and then bring those items back to you for review and consideration. 717 01:18:54,845 --> 01:18:57,710 it's important for us to keep an annual review of our policies in front of us to ensure legal requirements are met, 718 01:19:01,235 --> 01:19:03,455 aligned practices with policy. We want to also maintain that we have that competitive position in 719 01:19:06,410 --> 01:19:06,410 our marketplace and provide clear expectations for all employees. 720 01:19:11,235 --> 01:19:14,200 as a reminder amendments to the policy, the city manager may make revisions 721 01:19:16,690 --> 01:19:19,390 to the policy which do not involve a change in benefits offered or changes which would then require an amendment to any annual operating budget. 722 01:19:24,905 --> 01:19:24,905 tonight, we bring forth a couple of changes for city council consideration that must 723 01:19:29,090 --> 01:19:29,090 approve all changes involving employee benefits and/or budget amendments. 724 01:19:33,425 --> 01:19:36,320 any new rules or regulations issued supersede the regulations before and then are fully binding by all employees. 725 01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:40,775 the ones we bring forward to council tonight on proposed changes. 726 01:19:45,155 --> 01:19:47,765 the first one deals with our sick leave policy. We want to add a provision that allows our employees to 727 01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:54,995 utilize their earned sick leave in a different way, and that would deal with any additional bereavement leave that the employee would need. 728 01:20:00,470 --> 01:20:00,470 it also will allow that those employees can also take paid 729 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,840 sick time to cover bereavement relationship that might be outside of our current bereavement policy. 730 01:20:11,885 --> 01:20:15,470 this update just allows more flexibility for our employees to use some earned leave time dealing with bereavement leave. 731 01:20:21,105 --> 01:20:24,010 the next one is paid parental leave. We've had some requests, 732 01:20:25,570 --> 01:20:25,570 and we've looked into offering or dropping the one year waiting period for new employees. 733 01:20:31,735 --> 01:20:31,735 we're requesting that we remove that one year waiting period for our new employees, 734 01:20:36,190 --> 01:20:38,800 but give them 40 hours, 53 for fire if they want to tap 735 01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:44,920 into this benefit and utilize that as paid parental leave. Again, to be competitive in the marketplace, 736 01:20:47,290 --> 01:20:48,550 be that employer of choice, we felt like this was a benefit 737 01:20:51,995 --> 01:20:51,995 that we could make some changes to for our new eligible employees. 738 01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:59,045 military leave deals with the new law, the h.b.2513, which becomes effective september 1 of 2025. 739 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:03,920 military leave for paid military leave absences for a fire shift employee, 740 01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:09,350 either has to be a 24 hour work shift constitutes workday, 741 01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:16,820 or for our 4896, it would be a 48 hour work shift constitutes one workday. 742 01:21:20,825 --> 01:21:23,180 we would have to do some calculation with regards to their paid military leave that goes into effect that september 1. 743 01:21:28,570 --> 01:21:31,790 other provisions that we're asking counsel to review tonight also goes into our leaves under other. 744 01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:38,690 it includes currently, we have mental health leave for police officers and telecommunication operators. 745 01:21:43,565 --> 01:21:43,565 we want to broaden that and also include firefighters to our existing policy. 746 01:21:49,475 --> 01:21:49,475 then catastrophic leave, we wanted to add language that the city will 747 01:21:54,050 --> 01:21:54,050 review case by case options for leave outside of the catastrophic leave pool. 748 01:21:58,295 --> 01:21:58,295 if an employee does not have enough time to donate as a member of the pool and need 749 01:22:02,945 --> 01:22:02,945 arises that they meet that criteria otherwise described in our catastrophic leave pool. 750 01:22:08,585 --> 01:22:12,320 we've had a couple of incidences this past year after adopting that policy last year that causes us to come back and want to clean up that language. 751 01:22:16,670 --> 01:22:18,890 we also want to update the language to include gapping the compensation between short term and long term. 752 01:22:21,950 --> 01:22:25,625 there's no avoiding that double benefit time with either paid leave time and then what they earn at a short term and long term disability. 753 01:22:30,290 --> 01:22:33,650 those are the ones under consideration tonight for council. We do have a list of those that we're recommending for city manager, 754 01:22:37,190 --> 01:22:37,190 but are there any questions on those that I've covered tonight? 755 01:22:41,470 --> 01:22:41,470 the next is we're keeping tommy busy. 756 01:22:46,505 --> 01:22:49,700 we've got a request for city manager approval, so I'll go through these fairly quickly. 757 01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:54,365 if you have any questions on any of them, I'd be glad to answer them. Some of it's cleanup. 758 01:22:55,835 --> 01:22:58,580 we want to replace the word termination with separation throughout the employee handbook discrimination. 759 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,280 we wanted to make sure that we added the same statement that we had under our grievance policy in our discrimination section of the handbook. 760 01:23:08,585 --> 01:23:10,235 probation period. We needed to add the licensed telecommunications probation period begins after they 761 01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:14,450 complete their training plans to align with sworn peace officer and firefighters. 762 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,460 nepotism. We want to update to include city will not hire immediate relatives of internal service departments. 763 01:23:25,700 --> 01:23:28,550 that's hr, finance, and it. Weapons. We want to broaden that and include any knives that are 764 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:33,680 5.5 inches in length and have that as a prohibited weapon. 765 01:23:38,705 --> 01:23:41,720 cell device is just clean up, update language. That one was pretty dated, 766 01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:46,535 so we just want to update the language to line with current practice. Corrective action, we want to add reassignment and 767 01:23:49,970 --> 01:23:49,970 retraining as steps or actions that can be taken as part of corrective action. 768 01:23:54,245 --> 01:23:57,710 under the grievance, we wanted to update our current steps to include deputy city manager into the evaluations of any grievances that are filed. 769 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:02,600 then comp leave update that the records are kept in time keeping software, 770 01:24:07,610 --> 01:24:10,550 not with staff, accountant, or hr. Inclement weather, we wanted to update to align with current practice that 771 01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:17,900 non essential staff may be deemed essential based on the event, severity and expectation for essential and non-essential to remote work when practical. 772 01:24:23,345 --> 01:24:23,345 bereavement leave. We want to remove language regarding paperwork being completed by hr. 773 01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:28,310 in voting, we just added clarity when voting is considered pay time. 774 01:24:32,930 --> 01:24:32,930 internship. We wanted to remove just college level language 775 01:24:37,145 --> 01:24:37,145 and allow high school and/or career and technical students to intern or job shadow. 776 01:24:41,585 --> 01:24:41,585 we also clarified the provision for unpaid interns, compensation. 777 01:24:46,385 --> 01:24:48,455 in the event an employee passes. We wanted to add language to discontinue use of 778 01:24:50,810 --> 01:24:50,810 a final pay beneficiary form and follow state statute regarding final pay and 779 01:24:55,130 --> 01:24:58,535 clarifying language for vacation and sick payout for the years of service that they're eligible for. 780 01:25:03,380 --> 01:25:03,380 travel. Finances no longer have a petty cash, 781 01:25:07,820 --> 01:25:10,850 so we wanted to remove the language referring to petty cash. Workers' compensation. 782 01:25:12,365 --> 01:25:14,780 we want to clarify payments for first responders will be offset by temporary income benefits, 783 01:25:17,300 --> 01:25:17,300 in essence, keeping them home from a pay perspective, avoiding double payment. 784 01:25:22,235 --> 01:25:22,235 then reasonable accommodation, remove citizen ada policy, 785 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,340 since this is an employee handbook and add employee related reasonable accommodation policy aligning with current practice. 786 01:25:32,555 --> 01:25:32,555 those are the ones that we are requesting city manager review and approve. 787 01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:40,690 any questions on those? Next step then would be that we would adopt the updated handbook on october 1, 788 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,555 2025 and communicate these changes to all employees. Any final questions or comments tonight? 789 01:25:53,180 --> 01:25:54,410 >> anybody? >> thank you. 790 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,880 >> thank you. >> thank you, mayor and council. 791 01:26:03,230 --> 01:26:06,485 that brings us to 9.c. Receiver report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on 792 01:26:10,340 --> 01:26:10,340 the proposed fee changes for fiscal year 25-26 budget. 793 01:26:15,125 --> 01:26:17,720 this evening, the staff presenter is dylan whitehead, deputy director of development service building official. Mr. Whitehead. 794 01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:26,830 >> good evening, mayor. Council. Dylan whitehead, 795 01:26:31,190 --> 01:26:34,565 deputy director development services building official. During the budget process, 796 01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:40,070 city management asked us to review all of our department fees to see what fees need to be adjusted. 797 01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:51,020 either bring them into rate, find out what services that we are currently offering that don't have any fees associated with them. 798 01:26:55,010 --> 01:26:55,010 the following fees are just a outline of what those fees were that were found to hit 799 01:27:02,510 --> 01:27:05,540 the general fund that are either going to be new fees for the upcoming year or adjustments to existing fees. 800 01:27:10,130 --> 01:27:12,860 we'll start with the police department. This is their commercial alarm permit fees. 801 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,895 these fees were last updated over five years ago. They are looking to increase it from $75-$100 for 802 01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:26,110 the application plus $10 for any business representatives over the allotted five. 803 01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:39,290 if this fee is approved, we're looking at an increase of around $1,800-$2,500 annually. 804 01:27:44,610 --> 01:27:48,190 next up is community services, our library. The library currently has in their possession is a large plotter. 805 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:53,200 they're looking at adding an extra service to customers to do large format printing. 806 01:27:59,115 --> 01:28:02,720 similar to what you would go to kinko's or costco or staples to have posters printed and stuff like that. 807 01:28:07,445 --> 01:28:08,930 they're able to do that in house, and they want to start offering that to their customers. 808 01:28:12,005 --> 01:28:15,680 they're looking at offering for five dollars per linear foot. This equates out to be a little bit less than those other businesses in town. 809 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:20,480 it's just a new service that they're looking to offer to the citizens. 810 01:28:25,660 --> 01:28:25,660 they're anticipating that this could potentially bring in $1,500-$2,300 annually a year. 811 01:28:35,650 --> 01:28:35,650 onto development services, our planning department for etj plat exemption letters, 812 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:43,040 they are looking to increase this from the current $25 per letter to $50. 813 01:28:48,770 --> 01:28:52,340 there are no comparison cities for this one, since we are the only one currently with 814 01:28:54,020 --> 01:28:54,020 the interlocal agreement with johnson county for plating in our etj. 815 01:29:00,820 --> 01:29:04,115 our etj release applications. Currently, we do not have this on the fee schedule. 816 01:29:08,045 --> 01:29:10,745 as noted earlier today, when we get applications, 817 01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:16,100 there is staff time that goes into them to put that report together, bring it to the council for consideration. 818 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:21,760 proposed rate will be $200 for each application. 819 01:29:29,770 --> 01:29:29,770 legal filing fees for these are for when we have to go down and with the county, 820 01:29:36,845 --> 01:29:38,750 whether it be plats, easements or anything else like that. 821 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:41,960 currently, our small plat is $50 for the first sheet, 822 01:29:48,590 --> 01:29:50,825 $25 for each additional sheet, and then our larger plats is $80 for the first sheet, 823 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,330 $25 per each additional sheet. Johnson county and tarrant county have increased their fees recently. 824 01:30:01,235 --> 01:30:01,235 their fees are up to let's see. 825 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:07,720 pardon me. Johnson county has increased their fees up to $80. 826 01:30:13,505 --> 01:30:13,505 staff is proposing $100 fee to help compensate for staff time actually traveling down to 827 01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:23,180 the county appraisal district and filing these fees and just come in line with some other cities. 828 01:30:31,150 --> 01:30:31,150 municipal utility districts, mmds. 829 01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:38,705 currently, we do not have this on the books. There's a lot of staff time that goes into these whenever we get approached by 830 01:30:42,740 --> 01:30:42,740 developers that we're currently not getting any compensation for. 831 01:30:47,615 --> 01:30:47,615 staff is recommending a $4,000 non refundable application fee. 832 01:30:51,815 --> 01:30:53,090 this is just again, to help compensate and recover some of those costs for staff's time. 833 01:31:01,030 --> 01:31:01,030 pids. Again, something we are currently in the middle of. 834 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,615 we do not have a current rate for. Staff proposing a $2,000 application fee for these. 835 01:31:12,065 --> 01:31:12,065 again, just to help recover the staff's time that goes into doing the research, 836 01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:17,480 putting in the work and putting together presentations. 837 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:23,200 this is just a breakdown on what we would expect if these fees 838 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,920 were to move forward with the etj plat exemption, we're looking around $3,000 additional revenues, 839 01:31:34,985 --> 01:31:37,985 the etj releases, $11,000, legal filing fees, around $1,000, 840 01:31:40,850 --> 01:31:42,875 the mmds and muds, around 8,000, and for the pids, 841 01:31:45,485 --> 01:31:45,485 we're anticipating around 4,000. 842 01:31:50,290 --> 01:31:53,615 for permits and inspections. This is for our commercial one trade permit. 843 01:31:56,630 --> 01:32:00,470 if a business is going to need a new water heater replaced or get some their hvac system replaced. 844 01:32:04,505 --> 01:32:08,225 this is specifically for commercial properties. What we're doing is trying to catch up this fee rate 845 01:32:12,500 --> 01:32:12,500 a few years ago when we adjusted our validation fees. 846 01:32:18,650 --> 01:32:21,635 we did not touch this fee. In essence, whenever we have a full bigger project and 847 01:32:25,310 --> 01:32:29,120 there's other trades working underneath the main permit, they're validating underneath that main building permit for $75, 848 01:32:34,025 --> 01:32:37,055 whereas if they were just going in and do individual work, they can get away with a $50 rate on some smaller work. 849 01:32:41,390 --> 01:32:41,390 this is just trying to keep that in line and keep it consistent. 850 01:32:49,210 --> 01:32:52,400 foundation only permits. This is again, addressing specifically commercial projects. 851 01:32:55,325 --> 01:32:58,055 our current rate is only $75. We do get some of these requests in that really is to the benefit of the development. 852 01:33:04,055 --> 01:33:07,490 it allows them to speed line their progress and they're able to get construction work going while they're still working through the rest of the main permit. 853 01:33:12,940 --> 01:33:16,460 we're proposing a $250 rate. Again, that's just to go through and recoup some staff's time going back in. 854 01:33:22,490 --> 01:33:24,755 we're creating separate permits. We have to separate the plans out. 855 01:33:28,775 --> 01:33:28,775 again, that's just to recoup some of that. 856 01:33:35,930 --> 01:33:39,615 >> if the fees go through commercial one-trade permits, we're looking at about $10,000 increase annually. 857 01:33:42,675 --> 01:33:44,760 for the commercial foundation permits, we're looking at roughly $175-$350. 858 01:33:50,990 --> 01:33:54,530 development engineering. For our construction plan review process, 859 01:33:57,645 --> 01:33:59,430 there's a few changes here. Primarily, it's a 3% increase just to recover the 3% staff salary increase. 860 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,270 the other change on this one is going to be the full review fees going to be due at time of submittal, 861 01:34:16,020 --> 01:34:16,020 versus we were collecting 10% for residential and 20% for commercial at certain times, 862 01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:25,965 and this is just not been working out. We've been getting burned on some of those reviews where 863 01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:30,990 some of the projects don't actually make it all the way through, but we've already put in the work doing the reviews. 864 01:34:33,330 --> 01:34:36,090 we're looking at changing that. For construction inspections, again, 865 01:34:39,570 --> 01:34:41,670 this is basically a few years ago, we had to change our fees from a 4% inspection fee rate to a set rate. 866 01:34:47,955 --> 01:34:51,705 these fees are just a 3% increase based on, again, staff salary increasing. 867 01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:58,160 just a few more of the inspection fees. 868 01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:05,480 right-of-way encroachments, this fee is proposed to go from 250-525. 869 01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:15,240 last year in april, council amended chapter 70 to adjust the fees. 870 01:35:22,575 --> 01:35:23,805 actually, you set the fee, and that amendment, 871 01:35:29,900 --> 01:35:29,900 it designated on when planning would handle 872 01:35:35,295 --> 01:35:35,295 right-of-way encroachments and engineering would handle right-of-way encroachments, 873 01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:44,535 which is essentially outside of old town. This fee increase is just to keep it in line with what was 874 01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:48,330 adopted last year with the amendment. 875 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,110 sign installation. Currently, city staff is responsible for installation of all the public street signs. 876 01:36:02,620 --> 01:36:05,240 our current rate, as you can see, is only $250 per pole. 877 01:36:07,490 --> 01:36:09,830 estimated cost per pole, staff time included, is around $300-$350. 878 01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:13,510 as you can see, we're not even recouping what we're presenting. 879 01:36:18,765 --> 01:36:18,765 staff have made a recommendation of $350 per pole to 880 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:22,920 finance committee after some discussion and further research. 881 01:36:27,345 --> 01:36:27,345 looks like $700 per pole is more in 882 01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:31,590 line with what it actually costs developers to have this installed. 883 01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:36,390 we are also offering the option for the developer to install these signs. 884 01:36:42,435 --> 01:36:45,270 if they want to do that, they can do it on their own cost. The city is not going to charge them. 885 01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:48,600 we will still come out and make that part of our final inspections to make sure the poles meet our standards, 886 01:36:52,050 --> 01:36:52,050 the signs meet our standards, and everything else. 887 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,065 traffic impact analysis. Again, this change in the fee is going to be our current rates, $1,400. 888 01:37:08,805 --> 01:37:08,805 as you can see, the projects on the right, 889 01:37:13,190 --> 01:37:13,190 those projects are costing the city more than the $1,400 we're collecting. 890 01:37:19,050 --> 01:37:19,050 the traffic impact analysis are done through an outside consultant. 891 01:37:24,975 --> 01:37:28,680 what we're offering now is a $1,000 application fee; the way we get that up front, 892 01:37:30,045 --> 01:37:31,920 they'll at least get the ball rolling. Then, before the project is released for construction, 893 01:37:36,975 --> 01:37:36,975 they will have to pay the true cost of what that survey was. 894 01:37:42,300 --> 01:37:45,180 this is just pretty much a pass-through so that we're making sure we're covering the cost of the consultant, 895 01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:47,910 and we're getting the $1,000 application fee upfront. 896 01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:52,610 similar to the traffic study, 897 01:37:57,180 --> 01:37:58,965 is going to be our flood studies. Our current rates, again, 898 01:38:01,455 --> 01:38:04,110 we're losing money on what we're collecting versus what is actually costing our consultants to do these studies. 899 01:38:07,390 --> 01:38:10,115 similar to the traffic impact analysis. We're looking at a $1000 application fee, 900 01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:14,000 which is going to be due at submittal, and then plus the actual cost of the consultant. 901 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,450 these are just some numbers. If these fees are adopted or flood study, 902 01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:30,600 we're looking at potentially a $21,000 increase. Traffic studies, potentially a $9,000 increase. 903 01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:38,310 just keep in mind, those are going to be pretty much a pass. It's not additional revenue, 904 01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:39,750 it's going to be really a money savings that we're not paying out. 905 01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:44,190 then the sign installation is potentially a $13,000. 906 01:38:50,150 --> 01:38:50,150 for the fire inspections, I'm going to ask chief davis to run through these for you. 907 01:38:56,250 --> 01:38:59,970 >> good evening, mayor and counsel. Thank you for the opportunity to come and talk to you about our annual fire inspection fee. 908 01:39:03,615 --> 01:39:06,495 if you're not aware, every year, the fire marshal's office is charged with going and doing 909 01:39:10,035 --> 01:39:10,035 annual commercial fire inspections for all of our businesses. 910 01:39:14,415 --> 01:39:14,415 there's a little over 1,900 businesses in town that we have to inspect each year, 911 01:39:21,330 --> 01:39:23,460 and we're inspecting those to be in compliance with the fire code that's adopted by city council for us to enforce. 912 01:39:28,770 --> 01:39:28,770 [noise] one of the challenges that we currently have with that is 913 01:39:34,110 --> 01:39:37,200 that a vast majority of those inspections are done by operations from firefighters out on the fire trucks, 914 01:39:40,980 --> 01:39:43,890 and it's due to the fact that we don't have the staffing in the fire marshals office to be able to 915 01:39:47,010 --> 01:39:47,010 keep up with the demand of that and all the other objectives that is part of that office. 916 01:39:53,205 --> 01:39:56,340 we're going to walk through what all that office does here shortly for you. But tonight, really, 917 01:39:58,110 --> 01:39:58,110 we're here to talk about a way to receive some revenue that could 918 01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:02,940 help potentially offset some costs for another fte in the fire marshal's office. 919 01:40:07,935 --> 01:40:11,130 it's a supplemental package that I've put into the budget. Now, of course, I know nothing is set in stone or anything like that. 920 01:40:14,190 --> 01:40:15,600 this is just a request, but we were looking at ways that we could try to offset those costs, 921 01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:21,720 and this is one of those ways. Our current model is very inefficient. 922 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,175 we're sending four firefighters out in a fire truck to do an inspection that really one person in a pickup truck could do, 923 01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:37,380 but since we don't have the staffing in there, we've had to utilize that model, and I'll walk through a little bit more about the why on 924 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,840 that here shortly when we look at the fire marshal staffing. But right now in the fire marshal's office, 925 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,825 there's three ftes in there, so you have the fire marshal rob moore. He is in charge of all of these things on the far right of the screen. 926 01:40:53,490 --> 01:40:53,490 he is the administrator of the tico agency because their law enforcement, 927 01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:01,860 they have their own tico regulations. Rob serves as the tico. Administrator for that. 928 01:41:03,315 --> 01:41:03,315 fire code interpretation, [noise] commercial plan review, permitting, open records, 929 01:41:08,565 --> 01:41:08,565 development, assistance, social media, 930 01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:15,765 and city events that we participate in. Rob's got a lot going on, 931 01:41:16,980 --> 01:41:20,340 plus he has two ftes that report to him. We have one investigator inspector. 932 01:41:23,295 --> 01:41:23,295 their primary role and function is on the commercial inspection, 933 01:41:27,795 --> 01:41:31,170 whenever we're building new projects, new businesses, stuff like that, going out and keeping up with that. 934 01:41:32,370 --> 01:41:34,980 that's pretty much a full-time job on that side. Then that position also helps with our community risk reduction efforts. 935 01:41:38,580 --> 01:41:38,580 like our cpr, drowning prevention, 936 01:41:43,785 --> 01:41:46,200 going to the schools, those things. The other position in there is 937 01:41:47,850 --> 01:41:50,550 another law enforcement position that's an arson investigator. They have full investigation responsibilities, 938 01:41:53,235 --> 01:41:53,235 plus this role serves on our swat team medic program to 939 01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:58,470 assist that as a medical component along with chief moore. 940 01:42:03,795 --> 01:42:03,795 but this also is heavily involved in our community risk reduction efforts as well. 941 01:42:08,655 --> 01:42:11,580 between all of the different areas that they have, there's not enough time to be able to get to all of these. 942 01:42:15,770 --> 01:42:18,630 just walking through a little bit of a timeline with the fire marshal's office over the years, 943 01:42:20,820 --> 01:42:22,990 back in 1991, we had one fte in the fire marshal's office, 944 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:26,240 and it wasn't until 2006 that another fte was added. 945 01:42:31,220 --> 01:42:34,130 [noise] went from 06 all the way to 15. Before, there was three in there. 946 01:42:36,365 --> 01:42:37,820 at that point, there was two arson investigators and a fire marshal that was also an arson investigator. 947 01:42:42,995 --> 01:42:42,995 2018, we took on the management of the oil wells, 948 01:42:49,770 --> 01:42:52,215 and we got that position in fte. We added on to what the responsibilities of the fire marshal's office was. 949 01:42:56,055 --> 01:42:57,810 but we got creative with that position, and we turned them into an inspector, 950 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,700 and that way they could assist with the day-to-day operations in the office and also keep up with the oil wells. 951 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,850 then in 2021, during the middle of covid, we had one of the arson investigators retire, 952 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,870 and the decision at the time was not to replace that position due to fears in the budget with things that were going on at covid at the time. 953 01:43:20,430 --> 01:43:23,520 we are still currently with three ftes in there. [noise] as we discussed through and talk through the impact of what this fee could be, 954 01:43:29,825 --> 01:43:32,810 it's just trying to get back to where we were back in 2018 with another arson investigator in there. 955 01:43:36,820 --> 01:43:36,820 the department is much busier now than it ever has been, 956 01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:44,325 especially back in 2018. We're building a lot more things. We're running over 9,000 calls a year. 957 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,615 we have the ambulance service on top of it. There's a lot going on in the department to try to keep up with this as well. 958 01:43:53,655 --> 01:43:55,305 but these are incredibly important. Fire prevention is hugely important 959 01:43:58,520 --> 01:43:58,520 to reduce the risk of fires or prevent them from even happening on the front end. 960 01:44:03,835 --> 01:44:06,750 we want to make sure that we're inside of these businesses each year, making sure that code is being followed and all of that. 961 01:44:09,570 --> 01:44:09,570 but it comes with a cost associated with staff time and being out there. 962 01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:18,570 we polled 32 city agencies. We found that 11 had no fees associated with annual fire inspections, such as ourselves. 963 01:44:23,620 --> 01:44:26,120 twenty-one had some fee in some manner, 10 use a tiered approach based on square footage. 964 01:44:28,850 --> 01:44:30,320 then, eight charged for re-inspections if they failed an inspection, and they had to come back. 965 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,165 then, two used a flat fee rate. Here's where it averaged out based on those square footages. 966 01:44:40,590 --> 01:44:44,400 you can see there that 5:10,000, $66, and it goes all the way up to $209 whenever you get above the 200,000 square foot model. 967 01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:57,405 thinking through, there's several different models of this out there. What are the different responsibilities? 968 01:44:59,535 --> 01:45:02,085 we wanted to make sure that we understood that. This chart summarizes like 77% rely 969 01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:09,540 solely on the fire marshal's office to do these fire inspections. They don't use operations whatsoever. 970 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,595 the vast majority are under that model, and I don't know that we would ever get fully to that model, 971 01:45:18,780 --> 01:45:18,780 but we would want the vast majority of that to be in the fire marshal's office, 972 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,610 reducing the in operations, having to be a part of doing the annual fire inspections. 973 01:45:29,820 --> 01:45:33,780 fifteen percent share some responsibility on the fire crews, 4% rely only on the fire crews, 974 01:45:36,315 --> 01:45:38,115 and then 4% use conditional or mixed approach based on staffing and building type, and those things. 975 01:45:43,020 --> 01:45:43,020 that's really a model that I think we would still continue, 976 01:45:47,070 --> 01:45:50,820 but like I said, the vast majority being on the fire marshal's office. These are the total cities that we sampled, 977 01:45:53,445 --> 01:45:56,565 and then I'll break those down for you on the next slide. This is the typical burleson comparable cities that we benchmark ourselves against. 978 01:46:01,935 --> 01:46:01,935 of course, all of them do annual fire inspections, as you can see there. 979 01:46:06,825 --> 01:46:10,410 then what divisions do that? Again, you can see here, the vast majority is the fire marshal's office. 980 01:46:13,245 --> 01:46:16,800 only two of our comparable cities use fire crews to some degree. Cedar hill said that they use their crews moderately. 981 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:20,520 keller said they use high similar to us. 982 01:46:27,260 --> 01:46:30,270 I'm sorry, I went through that. Then re-inspections. Do they use them for re-inspections? 983 01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:32,070 again, our crews also go back out and do re-inspections as well. 984 01:46:36,285 --> 01:46:38,850 again, if you think about the efficiency of that model of a fire truck that's out there, 985 01:46:41,250 --> 01:46:44,640 they're in the middle of doing an inspection, they catch a call, they have to immediately leave, so they may have to drive back to finish the initial inspection. 986 01:46:47,550 --> 01:46:50,040 then if there's some compliance issue, they may have to come back another time or another time after that as well. 987 01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:56,970 again, that's why a lot of these other cities don't have their fire crews doing re-inspections or inspections to begin with. 988 01:47:00,555 --> 01:47:03,150 then fees charged associated with the annual fees on that last column there to the far right. 989 01:47:06,585 --> 01:47:10,200 you can see that there are several arlington, cedar hill, cleburne, and fort worth all charge an annual fee to do that. 990 01:47:15,645 --> 01:47:19,410 then we also looked at the texas fire chiefs association, which is a much broader group. 991 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,870 again, here, I think what we wanted to show is the vast majority are doing annual inspections performed through the fire marshal's office. 992 01:47:29,145 --> 01:47:29,145 again, the division that's typically doing it's the fire marshal's office. 993 01:47:34,170 --> 01:47:36,105 midlothian, princeton, and colville were the only ones that had their fire crews participating in those. 994 01:47:40,095 --> 01:47:42,570 then re-inspection again, was similar, with only midlothian and colville doing re-inspections. 995 01:47:46,890 --> 01:47:48,240 then again, on the far right, you can see what cities are charging an annual fee for that. 996 01:47:52,335 --> 01:47:54,450 there's more and more cities, I think, looking at trying to do this. 997 01:47:57,300 --> 01:47:57,300 we presented this to the finance committee back in june, 998 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,370 and this is what we presented at the time, based on the data and the feedback that we had gotten was basically doing a square footage model. 999 01:48:09,300 --> 01:48:11,280 if you're a smaller business, where it's a simple inspection where it doesn't utilize a lot of staff time, 1000 01:48:16,020 --> 01:48:19,155 we thought that $50 was the right place for that. All the way up to $175 for that 1,000-250 square foot. 1001 01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:27,465 during the middle of this conversation, the question came up, well, what about if and when we get a place that's bigger than 250,000 square foot? 1002 01:48:33,075 --> 01:48:35,355 we walk through it a little bit. This is what the finance committee recommended. 1003 01:48:38,505 --> 01:48:38,505 we bring this before you tonight for consideration on feedback. 1004 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,380 >> we simplified it down a little bit more, cleaned it up and really made it more simple. 1005 01:48:49,765 --> 01:48:51,790 it goes 50, 75, 100, and 200 for that 50,000 square foot and above. 1006 01:48:55,795 --> 01:48:58,045 really, whenever you're getting into those bigger buildings, there's a lot more doors and exits and lights and offices and extension cords, 1007 01:49:02,770 --> 01:49:05,890 and those things, but also there's usually some fire protection system. Alarm systems and fire sprinkler systems. 1008 01:49:08,935 --> 01:49:11,590 they spend a lot more time there on site. This isn't a lot of money, 1009 01:49:15,115 --> 01:49:18,475 and this would be a one time year fee, but it is something that we're adding to add onto 1010 01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:24,565 our businesses that's different than what we've done in the past. We wanted to show that it's not unprecedented to 1011 01:49:27,340 --> 01:49:29,785 do it with our peer cities at the same time. Then also, again, just to try to look 1012 01:49:33,970 --> 01:49:37,330 at how we can maybe recoup some of those costs to help offset the fte cost that is needed for that. 1013 01:49:41,485 --> 01:49:45,340 then here, this was just competitive fees, that 6,000 square foot. That's the biggest area that we're going to have. 1014 01:49:47,635 --> 01:49:51,025 was our proposal in the right space there? We wanted to break that out for you here. 1015 01:49:52,660 --> 01:49:52,660 as you can see, anywhere from 25 to as high as $60. 1016 01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:58,870 if we went with our $50 fee with our original model, 1017 01:50:04,810 --> 01:50:08,470 this is where this would break out to. This was what we originally presented. It would be a little over $108,000. 1018 01:50:11,185 --> 01:50:14,500 after taking recommendations from the committee, it would go up to $109,000, 1019 01:50:17,065 --> 01:50:19,210 so a little bit more, but really it would be the same and this fee structure simplifies it a little better, 1020 01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:25,900 and I think it serves us better. But that's what we would like for you to consider on the annual fire inspection fees, 1021 01:50:31,630 --> 01:50:31,630 and I'd be happy to answer any questions or concerns that you may have around. 1022 01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:40,225 >> do you take into account on sprinkler systems? Aren't they supposed to be certified every so often? 1023 01:50:42,700 --> 01:50:45,040 >> yes, sir. Part of the annual inspection is making sure that they got it inspected like they were supposed to. 1024 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,950 we go into the room, we make sure it has a heater, and it has a light, and it's been inspected, 1025 01:50:53,050 --> 01:50:56,140 and they look at the pressures and make sure it hasn't been damaged or anything like that. That is part of our annual inspection. Yes, sir. 1026 01:50:58,930 --> 01:51:02,030 >> anybody else? >> I think it's needed. 1027 01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,115 >> well, I'll back up. I'm totally against it. I think there's more nose on cities here. 1028 01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:10,880 case, I'm sorry. I just think that's something we need to provide to people. 1029 01:51:14,905 --> 01:51:14,905 insurance on these buildings has tripled tremendously. 1030 01:51:19,330 --> 01:51:21,040 they have a question, do you have a fire sprinkling system, etc. 1031 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:24,280 I think that's the cost and that they have to have that if they don't want it, 1032 01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:32,080 then they don't have to have it, but most buildings do have those particular things to protect. 1033 01:51:35,710 --> 01:51:39,640 their insurance rates are unbelievable. On a building in town, they tripled the insurance last year. 1034 01:51:42,220 --> 01:51:42,220 I just think that I saw a lot of no's that city have no fees. 1035 01:51:47,005 --> 01:51:49,615 I just think that fees were killing people. We've got fees all over the place. 1036 01:51:51,370 --> 01:51:54,280 well, that's for some reason in the last couple of years, that's a modern way of we're getting your money again. 1037 01:51:57,835 --> 01:52:01,510 these small businesses in burleson. I've been here since '83. We haven't grown near as much as mansfield. 1038 01:52:03,850 --> 01:52:07,300 >> sure. >> thank goodness. We have two schools. They have six. We used to have one piece. 1039 01:52:09,670 --> 01:52:13,315 mid lothian same way. A lot of towns are the same way. Hurst us, bedford. I'm sorry. 1040 01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:19,075 [inaudible] may be in favor, but I'm not. I just don't like it. Another fee. 1041 01:52:21,505 --> 01:52:24,700 >> think about it if we're paying for this service, we need to do it, and I've been in small businesses where they're set in 1042 01:52:27,070 --> 01:52:30,175 there with wires exposed and everything else. If we don't do this, 1043 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:33,840 the difference here is either we charge or we do it for free because it has to be done. 1044 01:52:39,115 --> 01:52:41,860 bottom line, and a lot of these places just they don't mean anything bad but they're a hazard. 1045 01:52:46,795 --> 01:52:49,750 now you're putting our firefighters at risk. It's not something, they're in business. 1046 01:52:53,425 --> 01:52:53,425 if they're not making enough to be able to afford $50 a year, 1047 01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,270 maybe they need to get out of business. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to be practical on this. 1048 01:53:02,650 --> 01:53:02,650 we're here sitting here fighting for revenue to get things done. 1049 01:53:07,615 --> 01:53:10,605 it just doesn't work that way. We need to charge for this. 1050 01:53:12,675 --> 01:53:12,675 >> I understand that, but we've always had inspections in the building. 1051 01:53:18,145 --> 01:53:20,935 the fire department would have come by. I'm not saying what else you have to do. 1052 01:53:23,305 --> 01:53:26,455 I know you're extremely busy. It's just part of the job. I just think that's part of it. 1053 01:53:28,690 --> 01:53:31,750 I had to do stuff that was required to me, and I didn't get to charge anything, part of the job. 1054 01:53:34,765 --> 01:53:37,390 I just think it's part of it. That's just another fee. It takes more money out of their pockets. 1055 01:53:39,580 --> 01:53:43,515 >> I'm sorry. I just don't agree with it. >> anybody else? >> I was going to say that the issue with it is right now we're 1056 01:53:47,485 --> 01:53:47,485 using basically a full fire truck to go around and do fire inspections. 1057 01:53:52,525 --> 01:53:54,040 then in the middle of the inspection, they get a call and they got to leave and they got to go do the call. 1058 01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,925 then they got to remember where they left off and come back and do the inspection. What these fees do is it offsets the cost to hire a fourth investigator. 1059 01:54:06,970 --> 01:54:10,030 they've got in which not to steal your thunder, tommy, but you put it at about 150,000 ongoing, 1060 01:54:13,090 --> 01:54:17,065 and then this would be 109,000 because I support the alternative. I'm biased because I'm on the finance committee. 1061 01:54:19,390 --> 01:54:21,610 >> sure. >> I like our recommendation. But that's what it is. 1062 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:24,400 it's to get these guys that are on the trucks to not have to do these inspections, 1063 01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:33,340 and they can focus that additional time on the training that they are so badly wanting to do and continuing to brush up on, 1064 01:54:36,910 --> 01:54:39,505 and so that's why this is being brought up. >> that would include a smaller vehicle or go to do this in, too. 1065 01:54:43,090 --> 01:54:46,750 >> correct. The fire marshal's office, if we had this other fte, they would take on the vast majority of these. 1066 01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:50,425 it would be one person going out in a smaller utility style vehicle to take care of these and follow up with them 1067 01:54:54,895 --> 01:54:58,210 and be able to do a more thorough in depth inspection while they're there and not get interrupted like the fire crews do often now. 1068 01:55:01,885 --> 01:55:05,650 >> would this individual have the same training as everybody else or would this be [overlapping] >> yes. They would be a firefighter that has all of the exact same training, 1069 01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:12,595 plus they would be an arson investigator and investigate, and this would be their specialty. 1070 01:55:14,410 --> 01:55:16,870 this would be what they do every day all the time. They would be used to answering those questions and those unique situations. 1071 01:55:19,915 --> 01:55:19,915 they are are resident experts on when it comes to the fire code. 1072 01:55:24,370 --> 01:55:26,200 >> larry. >> I'm good with the fees. 1073 01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:33,850 >> mayor counsel, I just want to state and this comments really more about this entire presentation, 1074 01:55:37,330 --> 01:55:39,400 that as we went through the budget process, I knew that it was going to be a more difficult process, 1075 01:55:42,430 --> 01:55:42,430 and I challenged every department director to look at how we do business, 1076 01:55:46,855 --> 01:55:49,465 what we assess fees for, what we're out of market, what peer cities are doing, 1077 01:55:51,145 --> 01:55:52,960 and what are best practice. I fully understand and respect that many of these things 1078 01:55:57,925 --> 01:55:57,925 increases for for our residents or for people that do business in burleson, 1079 01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,010 that's not lost on us. We just simply want to give the council the ability 1080 01:56:08,710 --> 01:56:11,440 to see what options you have, what fees, maybe we haven't increased in some period of time, 1081 01:56:14,020 --> 01:56:17,845 and then revenue offsets to maybe do things a little bit better. I just want to make it be 1082 01:56:20,380 --> 01:56:23,185 known that I did challenge every department director to do this. This is ultimately coming from me. 1083 01:56:25,150 --> 01:56:25,150 chief davis is recommending it. It's from me. 1084 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,590 >> my question is, what are the fees going to be used after you make the money where is the money going? 1085 01:56:34,750 --> 01:56:36,460 what's the fee going to be used for? >> I'm going to talk about that in my supplemental presentation, 1086 01:56:40,300 --> 01:56:42,850 but I do want to make it clear, also, and I'll get to it in mind. 1087 01:56:45,025 --> 01:56:48,505 right now we're not making any assumptions about revenue increases. In any of the numbers that I present, 1088 01:56:50,545 --> 01:56:52,630 I am not making an assumption, we've not modified revenue. 1089 01:56:54,955 --> 01:56:54,955 I do propose a revenue offset for the inspector position to fund it. 1090 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,180 not recommending the inspector without an offsetting revenue to pay for it because I think there are other things. 1091 01:57:07,540 --> 01:57:07,540 but the long story short is that it would go back to just general fund. 1092 01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:11,910 it wouldn't be allocated or earmarked for a specific purpose. 1093 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,340 >> do you want to answer. >> in this scenario [overlapping] >> casey you want to hire somebody to do it. 1094 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,015 >> you have an option. I'm recommending that if you implement this fee, 1095 01:57:27,775 --> 01:57:30,880 we change the way we do business, and we hire another inspector, and we take the burden off of the firefighters. 1096 01:57:33,970 --> 01:57:37,060 the council reserves the right to assess the fee and tell us to keep doing business the same way we do it today. 1097 01:57:40,885 --> 01:57:40,885 not my recommendation, but it's 100% your purview. 1098 01:57:49,370 --> 01:57:53,205 >> thank you. >> casey? >> yes, sir. >> I think the counsel is on board with going with the fees. 1099 01:57:57,735 --> 01:57:57,735 >> thank you, guys. 1100 01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:02,120 >> thank you all. The affirmation fees that we just discussed, 1101 01:58:08,260 --> 01:58:11,300 those were all the ones going directly to the general fund. The following fees are proposed fees from other funds that are 1102 01:58:14,850 --> 01:58:14,850 focused on improving cost recovery and consolidating the fee schedule. 1103 01:58:20,850 --> 01:58:20,850 administrative services or utility customer services. 1104 01:58:25,345 --> 01:58:29,260 these fees are largely intact of making some corrections on some small errors that were in the previous fee schedule. 1105 01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:34,480 credit card processing fee is currently listed 3.75 or a minimum of $3.50 per payment. 1106 01:58:41,710 --> 01:58:43,975 actual minimum is only $2.50, propose updating the word to reflect this correction. 1107 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:48,680 propose listing two separate credit card processing fees 1108 01:58:53,505 --> 01:58:53,505 in person of 3.75% or a minimum $2.50, 1109 01:58:57,660 --> 01:58:57,660 and additionally, adding a 50 cent ivr fee. 1110 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,580 this is already something that's currently in the software, so now staff is just looking to incorporate that into our fee schedule. 1111 01:59:13,550 --> 01:59:16,860 then lastly, on this is to propose to add the solid waste section of the fee schedule under 1112 01:59:19,380 --> 01:59:19,380 administrative services and taking it out of the cmo section of the fee schedule. 1113 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:27,360 if you have any questions, feel free to ask. 1114 01:59:36,210 --> 01:59:39,805 for parks and recs on the golf course. This is just simply increasing the maximum rate from the current $55 to $62 1115 01:59:47,305 --> 01:59:47,305 with the understanding the maximum fee will not change 1116 01:59:51,310 --> 01:59:51,310 until planned improvements that were discussed last council meeting. 1117 01:59:55,975 --> 01:59:59,020 those improvements begin to be implemented, staff has the ability to increase that maximum fee. 1118 02:00:05,190 --> 02:00:07,360 then on public works, our water and wastewater meter and tap fees. 1119 02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:12,240 the following slides give you a breakdown on 1120 02:00:16,975 --> 02:00:16,975 the various meters and tap fees that have paid by the developers. 1121 02:00:22,525 --> 02:00:25,540 this is all looking towards cost recovery. The proposed fees represent full cost recovery, 1122 02:00:28,570 --> 02:00:28,570 fees at less than full cost recovery represent subsidies 1123 02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:33,040 to the private redevelopment funded by the water wastewater pairs. 1124 02:00:38,395 --> 02:00:38,395 many small municipalities in the region make it very hard to 1125 02:00:42,970 --> 02:00:42,970 find information on their fees. 1126 02:00:49,890 --> 02:00:49,890 doing a quick search through comparable cities, 1127 02:00:54,655 --> 02:00:57,430 we just couldn't find them. Short of having to go through open records request, 1128 02:01:00,985 --> 02:01:00,985 you can't find any information on the website. 1129 02:01:07,110 --> 02:01:07,110 here are the proposed fee rate changes for different meter sizes. 1130 02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:16,440 we can sit here and go through each one of these if you'd like. 1131 02:01:20,755 --> 02:01:24,565 majority of these are going to be paid by the developers and the builders. It's development paying for development. 1132 02:01:27,535 --> 02:01:27,535 these fees have not been changed in over five years. 1133 02:01:34,620 --> 02:01:34,620 biggest ones are going to be whenever we need to make a new tap, 1134 02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:41,155 whether it's in an easement or outside an easement. If there's concrete work or road construction that goes along with those, 1135 02:01:45,385 --> 02:01:45,385 those prices are set by public works. 1136 02:01:50,130 --> 02:01:52,840 we contact our public works director, they'll go out and assess the site, 1137 02:01:55,015 --> 02:01:55,015 and then they will give us a quote on what the actual cost is to make that tap. 1138 02:02:00,535 --> 02:02:00,535 >> dylan, do we know if we're competitive with other towns on this? Are we pretty close? 1139 02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:07,990 >> that's what I was referring to, sir. Trying to find the information as to 1140 02:02:10,150 --> 02:02:12,655 other cities and what they actually charge for these. It's very difficult to locate. 1141 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:19,315 eric, do you have more info? >> eric, could you speak a little bit just about the costs 1142 02:02:22,270 --> 02:02:25,060 that go into this in terms of meters that we purchase and what we're paying for them as opposed to what the fee schedule is? 1143 02:02:31,075 --> 02:02:34,960 >> sure. To the mayor's question, the short answer is, 1144 02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:38,545 we feel like we're in line with the region. Some of the larger cities have actually 1145 02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:44,770 published their information and we're fairly in line. A lot of the individual fees on here 1146 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:48,880 have the asterisk because they include some pavement work. 1147 02:02:53,710 --> 02:02:57,100 we won't know exactly how much that work is going to cost to restore until we actually go to that specific location, 1148 02:03:00,850 --> 02:03:04,810 figure out how deep is it. Is it asphalt? Is it concrete? Is it something else? The size of the meter? 1149 02:03:08,860 --> 02:03:10,990 in order to make a connection, this is the material costs to give them everything they need for the connection. 1150 02:03:17,935 --> 02:03:19,675 it's a lot of materials. A lot of those materials, fluctuate in price. 1151 02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,515 they're basically a commodity almost. We felt it'd be better not to lock ourselves into a rate now and 1152 02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:31,270 then have tariffs or something else cause those meter costs, 1153 02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:37,195 for example, to sky rocket. Now we're way under recovering what it's costing us to 1154 02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:41,320 connect that customer or relocate that customer. Does that help? 1155 02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:57,440 >> the revenues from these fees are purely demand driven. 1156 02:04:01,650 --> 02:04:01,650 it is, again, a recovery effort. 1157 02:04:06,110 --> 02:04:06,110 current fees are estimated to generate approximately $45,000 in revenue this year. 1158 02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:11,430 the proposed fees are projected to generate additional 3,000 and 1159 02:04:17,820 --> 02:04:17,820 a total annual revenue for 25-26 of roughly 78,000. With that? 1160 02:04:26,835 --> 02:04:30,470 >> when would these go into effect? If someone's got something under construction, 1161 02:04:33,630 --> 02:04:36,190 we aren't going to go out there and raise a price on them, are we? >> yes. The fee schedule will be adopted with the budget. 1162 02:04:40,820 --> 02:04:44,480 >> it would be effective october 1, mayor. >> we'd have plenty of time to let everybody know what we're doing? 1163 02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:50,060 >> yes, sir. >> anybody? We can't keep picking the tab up for it. 1164 02:04:58,350 --> 02:05:00,435 I understand. Thank you, dion. >> staff is seeking direction on which identified fees 1165 02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:07,215 the council believes should be increased or incorporated in to the fee schedule. On june 18th, 1166 02:05:08,610 --> 02:05:11,580 the majority of these fees were presented to the finance committee with approval to bring them forward to counsel. 1167 02:05:16,185 --> 02:05:16,185 a final fee schedule will be presented to counsel in august for consideration. 1168 02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:25,280 any other questions? 1169 02:05:29,540 --> 02:05:32,120 >> anybody? >> mayor, just to make sure as we continue to go through 1170 02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:39,465 the budget development process is a direction for full council to proceed with all the fees as presented this evening. 1171 02:05:46,340 --> 02:05:50,205 >> with the alternative on the inspection fees. >> as recommended by the finance committee. 1172 02:05:52,830 --> 02:05:54,330 for point of clarity, there were two or three fees that the finance committee recommended modifications too. 1173 02:05:59,775 --> 02:05:59,775 the counsel's recommendation is to proceed with staff's recommendation, 1174 02:06:05,085 --> 02:06:05,085 except for, if the finance committee made another recommendation. 1175 02:06:10,250 --> 02:06:10,250 >> we're good to go. 1176 02:06:16,730 --> 02:06:19,800 >> thank you, mayor and counsel. That brings us to the. [overlapping] >> amanda. We're going to take a little break. 1177 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,120 counsel, try to come on back as soon as you can, if you would. Casey. 1178 02:06:28,605 --> 02:06:30,150 >> hold on. >> let's go. >> thank you, mayor and counsel. 1179 02:06:32,990 --> 02:06:32,990 move on to item 9d, receiver report, 1180 02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:37,560 hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on fire billing services. 1181 02:06:42,045 --> 02:06:42,045 the staff presenter this evening is casey davis, fire chief. Casey. 1182 02:06:46,275 --> 02:06:48,255 >> good evening, mary and counsel again. I'm here before you tonight to talk about fire response cost recovery. 1183 02:06:53,265 --> 02:06:56,280 similar to what we were talking about earlier. This is another way 1184 02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:58,470 to recover some of the costs for the services for the fire department. 1185 02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:04,910 there's some challenges with this, 1186 02:07:13,155 --> 02:07:16,305 that I'd like to explore with you and talk through. Fire cost recovery proposal was presented to the finance committee back in june. 1187 02:07:21,915 --> 02:07:21,915 the committee was receptive to this concept and expressed support. 1188 02:07:26,460 --> 02:07:28,770 their formal recommendation was to bring it back to the full council for a report and presentation. 1189 02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:31,680 again, with the city facing some of the financial situation we've been in, 1190 02:07:36,270 --> 02:07:38,610 city manager ludwig has asked us to look at all the different options of ways that we can possibly recover cost. 1191 02:07:42,165 --> 02:07:44,460 this is a way to do it, and it's not unprecedented for the burleson fire department to do this cost recovery. 1192 02:07:48,450 --> 02:07:51,570 we've done this in the past as part of our model. As a matter of fact, kristie menchaca, 1193 02:07:53,970 --> 02:07:55,635 that's one of our administrative assistants, she was originally hired on the premise that she would help do 1194 02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:02,655 some insurance cost recovery billing whenever she was first brought on. That's what her background was in. 1195 02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:07,980 they did that for a few years early on, back whenever the city was transitioning away from 1196 02:08:10,620 --> 02:08:14,580 the county and not being a part of the esd and just running the city. There was a time that we did this, 1197 02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:19,375 but we did it internally. One of the challenges with this is that, 1198 02:08:23,450 --> 02:08:26,180 we learned through that back then was that we didn't have the staff to do that or the expertise to do that, 1199 02:08:29,180 --> 02:08:29,180 because fire billing is unique in its own way. 1200 02:08:33,445 --> 02:08:35,970 it's not very predictable, and it depends a lot on the type of insurance that someone has. 1201 02:08:40,940 --> 02:08:40,940 some insurance carriers include fire department service charge recovery clause in 1202 02:08:47,250 --> 02:08:47,250 their policies to help pay for the costs related to fire incidents and first response. 1203 02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:57,240 again, like I said, our department doesn't have the processes or the staff levels in place to 1204 02:08:59,460 --> 02:08:59,460 identify and pursue these reimbursable claims for incident. 1205 02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:09,165 but as you all know, we use a merger con as our ems billing agency, 1206 02:09:13,170 --> 02:09:13,170 and they have a division called merger fire who does fire billing, 1207 02:09:18,740 --> 02:09:18,740 where they bill insurance companies for claims that are submitted for emergencies. 1208 02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:25,430 we haven't committed to emerge fire by any means that we would do business with them. 1209 02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:34,770 they were just a natural source to go to since they offer that service, and we already have a contract with them for ambulance and ms billing. 1210 02:09:38,445 --> 02:09:40,455 we explored this with them. You'll see their name throughout the presentation, but again, by no means, 1211 02:09:43,050 --> 02:09:45,180 does that mean that we have to do business with them and we haven't promised them any business to this point. 1212 02:09:48,210 --> 02:09:48,210 again, like I was saying, they're a division of emergicon. 1213 02:09:52,605 --> 02:09:52,605 the process does move from a direct taxing model with 1214 02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:56,790 a potential for an insurance premium increase. 1215 02:10:01,170 --> 02:10:03,165 we wanted to say that out front. We don't know if that's the case or not. 1216 02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:09,135 we reached out to a merger fire to find out if they've experienced any of that. This is what they told us about, 1217 02:10:11,745 --> 02:10:14,250 would this impact someone's premium. I'll just read this to you. 1218 02:10:16,155 --> 02:10:18,840 to date, there's no formal case studies that specifically isolate the effects of fire response billing on insurance premiums. 1219 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,800 premiums are typically influenced by the incident itself, such as vehicle crash, 1220 02:10:27,135 --> 02:10:27,135 fire, or hazardous spills not associated with the costs billed by the fire department. 1221 02:10:32,535 --> 02:10:35,145 premiums are based on events, not fees, insurance underwriting looks at an overall claim, 1222 02:10:37,860 --> 02:10:40,260 property damage, injuries, liability, and the involvement of the emergency services is already factored into that risk. 1223 02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:46,590 whether or not the fire department bills for service does not affect how the claim is scored. 1224 02:10:48,975 --> 02:10:48,975 fire billing is treated as a claim line item from the carrier's perspective, 1225 02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:55,380 these charges are like towing, cleanup or other post incident services that are bundled into an overall claims cost. 1226 02:11:00,945 --> 02:11:00,945 many municipalities across texas has successfully implemented billing for 1227 02:11:04,980 --> 02:11:04,980 fire services without seeing any reported increases in resident premiums as a result. 1228 02:11:10,425 --> 02:11:14,070 these programs have been operating for years and and there have been no insurance pushbacks based on billing practices alone. 1229 02:11:18,645 --> 02:11:18,645 I talked to christie, our administrative assistant, 1230 02:11:22,830 --> 02:11:26,820 and then I reached out to chief wisdom, who was the fire chief at the time when he was here. They both reported that they don't recall anyone having 1231 02:11:29,670 --> 02:11:32,190 any issues with their premiums going up whenever we were going through that process then, as well. 1232 02:11:38,420 --> 02:11:38,420 counsel has the ability to establish specific policies and parameters to ensure that 1233 02:11:44,130 --> 02:11:46,950 these fire billing services are in line with our values and our expectations exactly the same way that we did it with the ambulance billing site. 1234 02:11:51,450 --> 02:11:51,450 options for consideration include billing strictly only insurance companies, 1235 02:11:57,195 --> 02:11:57,195 ensuring that no individual or individual business would ever receive a direct bill. 1236 02:12:02,850 --> 02:12:02,850 we could also prohibit the use of third party collections under any circumstances, 1237 02:12:07,845 --> 02:12:10,860 similar to what we do with the ambulances now. What can we bill for? 1238 02:12:13,215 --> 02:12:13,215 well, basically any incident that we respond to. 1239 02:12:17,325 --> 02:12:19,980 motor vehicle incidents, structure fires, vehicle fires, equipment fires, hazmat incidents, industrial commercial incidents. 1240 02:12:24,285 --> 02:12:24,285 basically any time that there was some incident that the fire department responded, 1241 02:12:28,515 --> 02:12:31,035 and then there was an insurance claim. That would be the only time they would bill. 1242 02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:35,220 they wouldn't bill an individual citizen or anything like that with the model that we're proposing. 1243 02:12:38,490 --> 02:12:41,250 they would just bill a claim that's already billed, just like a record driver would or hazmat company would, 1244 02:12:45,690 --> 02:12:45,690 or a disaster recovery company would do. 1245 02:12:52,125 --> 02:12:54,800 this is a similar model. These are all the cities that emergifire is currently doing business with in texas. 1246 02:13:01,290 --> 02:13:01,290 all of the ones in yellow highlighted are in north texas. 1247 02:13:06,405 --> 02:13:09,075 then the ones at the bottom there. These are cities that are currently in negotiations 1248 02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:15,915 with emergifire to consider taking on their services as well. There's several in north texas that are already doing this and being successful at 1249 02:13:20,010 --> 02:13:23,910 it for consideration. Basically, how would it work? We would have an incident, 1250 02:13:25,530 --> 02:13:29,130 just like we do now. We would run the incident, take care of the incident, and we would collect information on that. 1251 02:13:31,515 --> 02:13:31,515 we would send that over to a emergifire or whatever company we were doing business with. 1252 02:13:38,610 --> 02:13:42,450 we already have that process in place because we do it on the ambulance billing side. They're already plugged into our software. 1253 02:13:44,385 --> 02:13:46,830 if we did choose to go with them, we already have that piece in place with them. 1254 02:13:49,140 --> 02:13:52,170 insurance billing opportunities, they would then see if that incident had any billing I'm sorry, 1255 02:13:56,670 --> 02:13:58,500 insurance premium associated with it. They would then file claims with the insurance company, 1256 02:14:00,810 --> 02:14:03,465 and if there was coverage on that insurance premium, and the insurance company deemed 1257 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,635 that it was appropriate to pay that. They would pay that. They would then collect the revenue from that. 1258 02:14:11,625 --> 02:14:14,700 they would take out their fees associated with that, and then they would put that in our account just like they do for the ambulance side now. 1259 02:14:19,245 --> 02:14:22,125 again, here, this is breaking down that process of just saying how they would promptly submit those claims, 1260 02:14:26,430 --> 02:14:26,430 provide instructions for submission to require documentation to a emergifire. 1261 02:14:30,660 --> 02:14:34,365 if they needed more information on the claim, then they would promptly post those payments whenever they received them. 1262 02:14:38,010 --> 02:14:40,410 provide monthly client report updates, which we already have that relationship with them now, 1263 02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:45,825 and they do that now for the ems side. What they would charge if we did decide to explore this further with 1264 02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:50,040 them is they charge 15% for all revenues collected for a emergifire. 1265 02:14:54,495 --> 02:14:57,735 that is more than what's on the ems billing side. But like I said, fire billing is not as consistent as ems billing. 1266 02:15:01,530 --> 02:15:04,080 not everyone has these on their premiums, are part of the or their insurance coverage. 1267 02:15:09,260 --> 02:15:09,260 I think to cover their cost associated with going after that, that's why it's 15%, 1268 02:15:15,060 --> 02:15:17,550 plus an additional 2% for any credit card fees, which is similar on the ems side. 1269 02:15:20,340 --> 02:15:23,175 ems billing is way more consistent. It's based on call volume and payer mix and 1270 02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:27,900 things that are much more predictable than what is on the fire side. 1271 02:15:33,075 --> 02:15:36,930 we did ask them to run some numbers and give us some estimates on what they think that we could receive back based on this. 1272 02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:42,150 they looked at last year. What they came up with was 123 possible claims on the business side and 1273 02:15:47,490 --> 02:15:47,490 550 individual claims that they felt like we could have possibly billed for. 1274 02:15:53,070 --> 02:15:54,630 on the far right column there, you'll see that these are average times on scene per incident, 1275 02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,500 because not only they bill for units, they bill for staff, but they also bill for the time that you're there utilizing that equipment. 1276 02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:09,320 their preliminary revenue estimates, and like I said, 1277 02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:17,520 they did not want us to nail them down on this. They said that this is very unpredictable, 1278 02:16:19,380 --> 02:16:19,380 but they think that we could get as high as $145,000 a year in cost recovery. 1279 02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:29,040 again, as we're asking to increase staffing for the fire marshals office and for firefighters and for paramedics, 1280 02:16:32,610 --> 02:16:34,050 those things associated with that, we're looking at ways to try to recover some of these costs. 1281 02:16:37,365 --> 02:16:41,130 we feel that this is a responsible, reasonable way to go about that, because we're collecting on 1282 02:16:43,755 --> 02:16:43,755 insurance claims that the person already has this built into their insurance coverage. 1283 02:16:52,310 --> 02:16:56,235 again, how do they go about developing their rate? They use fma rates. 1284 02:16:58,850 --> 02:16:58,850 those are national standard rates based on if we went to 1285 02:17:04,020 --> 02:17:04,020 like some natural disaster like a hurricane down at the coast or something like that. 1286 02:17:08,535 --> 02:17:10,290 this is how fma would reimburse. That's how they base their fee schedule off of that, 1287 02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:14,745 accounting for a four person crew. The result in the average base rate is $177 per hour for an engine company, 1288 02:17:20,055 --> 02:17:20,055 and an additional $376 an hour for allocated fuel equipment, 1289 02:17:24,330 --> 02:17:26,670 personnel, all of those things. Now, I won't read all of this to you here, 1290 02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:32,940 but these are if you go into specifics, so like a motor vehicle incident, 1291 02:17:35,175 --> 02:17:38,730 $602-838 plus is what they think that they could recover on those if they had this coverage. 1292 02:17:41,940 --> 02:17:45,825 the reason why I say plus is if there's extensive hazmat cleanup or something like that, those will be additional things. 1293 02:17:47,385 --> 02:17:47,385 this materials response is anywhere from 972 to almost $8,200 plus. 1294 02:17:54,225 --> 02:17:56,370 hazmat, again, is very broad. It could be something very small to something very 1295 02:17:58,860 --> 02:17:58,860 large that goes on for hours or even days. 1296 02:18:02,970 --> 02:18:05,130 then, fire response fee, again, $554-693 an hour. 1297 02:18:08,775 --> 02:18:12,360 they can also bill for fire investigation, and incident command, which we're required to have at those incidents as well. 1298 02:18:16,335 --> 02:18:16,335 water-related incidents, back country or special rescue incidents, 1299 02:18:22,215 --> 02:18:24,600 that would be something like the cell tower rescue we recently had where we were out there for 1300 02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:26,280 multiple hours on that natural gas leak response. 1301 02:18:36,290 --> 02:18:36,290 the next steps to consider is we could consider 1302 02:18:40,380 --> 02:18:40,380 a billing policy if counsel wants to go down this road, 1303 02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:45,300 where we only bill insurance companies that have an insurance claim with 1304 02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:50,520 no contract or billing inquiries made to individual citizens or individual businesses, 1305 02:18:57,330 --> 02:19:00,420 never utilizing third party collections. We need to consider some procurement options for contract with a billing service. 1306 02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:06,690 I've been exploring that with purchasing, if we did decide to go down this road of how we could best go about doing that. 1307 02:19:11,580 --> 02:19:11,580 consider an ordinance establishing and implementing a program to charge mitigation rates, 1308 02:19:16,740 --> 02:19:19,245 and then the rates associated with that. Initiate a public awareness campaign. 1309 02:19:21,300 --> 02:19:21,300 I think this would be much similar in the way that we approach, 1310 02:19:25,950 --> 02:19:29,940 not having a subscription fee on the ambulance side of things. I think that this taken out of context, 1311 02:19:32,310 --> 02:19:35,280 people could maybe think that we were going to build them individually or something like that. We would want to be very clear with all of the citizens and the businesses 1312 02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:41,820 in town that we would not bill them individually, or that wouldn't be our recommendation to do that. 1313 02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:45,240 then, complete the standard operating procedures 1314 02:19:50,055 --> 02:19:50,055 and with the target go live of january of 2026. 1315 02:19:56,010 --> 02:19:56,010 be happy to answer any questions or get any feedback that you all have about this. 1316 02:20:03,550 --> 02:20:06,395 >> I'm all on this. I guess one of the things that went through my mind 1317 02:20:09,110 --> 02:20:12,560 is an electrical fire on an electric vehicle. >> yes, sir. >> you've given us a presentation on what it takes to get one of those fires put out. 1318 02:20:17,825 --> 02:20:19,460 >> yeah. Thankfully, we have not encountered that here in burleson yet, 1319 02:20:22,220 --> 02:20:22,220 but those are very significant fires when we have one. 1320 02:20:26,225 --> 02:20:29,015 some of the issues associated with those is basically our bunker gear then has to be sent off and specially cleaned. 1321 02:20:32,945 --> 02:20:35,240 that is very expensive to have that done because of the type of chemicals that are involved in those batteries. 1322 02:20:39,880 --> 02:20:43,280 there's going to be a hazmat incident associated with that, so you're going to have a hazmat team out there for hours 1323 02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:48,230 trying to clean that up and mitigate those efforts as well. You're talking a lot of manpower hour time, 1324 02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:51,320 and then the cleanup internally with the trucks and the equipment and all of 1325 02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:57,350 those things to be able to get all of the carcinogens out of that bunker gear for it to be usable again, 1326 02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:04,970 and all of those things, it would be thousands of dollars associated with the cost just for one electric vehicle fire. 1327 02:21:09,545 --> 02:21:11,330 >> we could pretty well use the same questions that we did with the ames and the fact that 1328 02:21:14,585 --> 02:21:14,585 we're being sensitive to the client to our citizen, right? 1329 02:21:19,985 --> 02:21:19,985 >> yes, I think that would be my recommendation is to follow a similar pathway. 1330 02:21:26,090 --> 02:21:26,090 my recommendation would be to bill insurance companies where there's already a claim. 1331 02:21:31,475 --> 02:21:33,680 the person has already had the reck, they're already filing an insurance claim. 1332 02:21:35,705 --> 02:21:37,820 then if they have these provisions on their policy that the citizen or the business is already paying for that coverage, 1333 02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:46,325 then this would be associated with it. Again, I know the question has inevitably come up. 1334 02:21:49,865 --> 02:21:51,830 could this cause their premiums to go up? I can't stand here before you and say absolutely no, that wouldn't happen. 1335 02:21:55,160 --> 02:21:56,705 but from talking to magnifier, they have not seen that to be a major issue or concern. 1336 02:22:00,575 --> 02:22:00,575 again, they look at these as similar to a wrecker driver or something like that, 1337 02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:08,285 providing a service within that clump of that claim. >> anybody else? 1338 02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:11,320 >> I think as long as we focus on the insurance companies and not having 1339 02:22:17,180 --> 02:22:17,180 contact with the individual or business and no third party collection. 1340 02:22:23,610 --> 02:22:26,665 >> we absolutely can't go after people. But if this is a provision that they include as part of their insurance package already, 1341 02:22:34,160 --> 02:22:37,420 if it has this fire department service charge, that's already part of what they're paying for as a client of whatever insurance company, 1342 02:22:43,220 --> 02:22:46,235 and then it's a benefit that no one is capitalizing on if we're not seeking a claim on that. 1343 02:22:50,090 --> 02:22:50,090 the instances that really stand out to me, 1344 02:22:54,110 --> 02:22:54,110 we're unique in that we sit between I-35, 121. 1345 02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:00,260 there are a lot of people, and even on 174 that pass through our town that aren't necessarily burleson citizens, 1346 02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:04,760 but take up time in the event that they have a car accident or on I-35, 1347 02:23:10,820 --> 02:23:10,820 if there's a situation where a truck rolls over, 1348 02:23:14,900 --> 02:23:18,560 there's so many instances that we could be involved in that would take up a lot of fire time, staff, tools, 1349 02:23:23,780 --> 02:23:23,780 and then we miss out on an opportunity that we could 1350 02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:29,120 potentially request some recovery back on that on those fees. 1351 02:23:35,285 --> 02:23:39,170 I wish in some ways we could identify those, but I don't think that would be worth a contract to say, 1352 02:23:42,590 --> 02:23:45,110 if they happen on major thoroughfares, then that would be your opportunity. 1353 02:23:46,910 --> 02:23:48,785 but those are the instances that stand out to me. We talk about that at cog sometimes of the state. 1354 02:23:53,570 --> 02:23:53,570 state troopers sometimes are far and few on those big thoroughfares, 1355 02:24:01,180 --> 02:24:01,180 so instead, it ends up being on the backs of local law enforcement or 1356 02:24:05,255 --> 02:24:09,020 local fire providers to deal with those situations, and they can take up a lot of time. 1357 02:24:10,955 --> 02:24:10,955 >> we stand ready to respond to anybody whether or not they have that provision or not. 1358 02:24:16,055 --> 02:24:16,055 I answer that question often for patients that call in about their ambulance bill, 1359 02:24:20,990 --> 02:24:22,910 and I tell them the same thing every time. If you call 911, we're coming. 1360 02:24:25,085 --> 02:24:25,085 this is just an opportunity to 1361 02:24:29,150 --> 02:24:32,900 try to get some cost recovery on a provision that's built into someone's insurance premium. That's the way I saw it when it was presented from mergify to 1362 02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:35,990 us as something that they're already paying for in their benefits, 1363 02:24:40,025 --> 02:24:42,455 and this is something that they can try to do cost recovery. Again, they think they might be maybe be able to get us $145,000, 1364 02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:50,830 which is nowhere near covering the cost of the budget for the fire department or anything like that. 1365 02:24:53,545 --> 02:24:56,255 it's a small portion of it. But as we consider needing to add more staff and things like that, 1366 02:25:00,935 --> 02:25:03,200 and city manager ludwig has asked us to look at the different ways that we can bring that. 1367 02:25:05,405 --> 02:25:05,405 I wanted to bring this to you as an option for consideration. 1368 02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:14,790 >> you good too? >> casey, you do a good job presenting things 1369 02:25:18,405 --> 02:25:18,405 the same way when I presented stuff when I was still working. 1370 02:25:24,580 --> 02:25:28,150 I can sell lies to somebody in alaska and you do a good job. Not that I agree with you, and that's fine. 1371 02:25:31,410 --> 02:25:33,905 we can have differences and still be good. I don't agree with this again, 1372 02:25:36,740 --> 02:25:40,220 simply because now we're going to hear from the chief cordell about we're going to raise money. 1373 02:25:44,090 --> 02:25:44,090 another fee if they call 911 for emergency on police or they have to draw their weapon, 1374 02:25:50,990 --> 02:25:52,760 we're going to charge them $5. Insurance company will recuperate the cost. 1375 02:25:55,640 --> 02:25:59,030 it's going to cost somebody, and that's sure not going to be the insurance company. I'm sorry, they're out of control. 1376 02:26:01,415 --> 02:26:01,415 but I think it's another fee of some way or other. 1377 02:26:05,555 --> 02:26:05,555 tommy, you did a great job of figuring out how to do this and raising money. 1378 02:26:09,965 --> 02:26:11,990 we've been all over about doing that. You've done a great job. But just personally, 1379 02:26:15,050 --> 02:26:15,050 my common sense telling me I don't like it because in your presentation, 1380 02:26:20,450 --> 02:26:24,425 you showed that chart. I counted the first row before you took it off, 16 out of 22 didn't do it. 1381 02:26:27,065 --> 02:26:30,635 only just a few doing this, not very many. Again, I feel like if somebody has a wreck on 174, 1382 02:26:35,450 --> 02:26:39,290 whether they're from joshua, whether they're coming to cleveland going town or inner city, you do take care of them. 1383 02:26:41,180 --> 02:26:43,370 by the way, you wrecked your car. We got a $500 bill we're going to attach to it through your insurance. 1384 02:26:47,630 --> 02:26:50,420 you just burnt your house down half of, we're going to charge $1,000 go through your insurance. 1385 02:26:53,015 --> 02:26:56,675 somebody going to charge him, and insurance will go up on them. I'm sorry. I guess I'm going to argue to move tonight. 1386 02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:03,035 I just don't agree with it. >> yes, sir. >> sorry. >> I respect your position. 1387 02:27:04,355 --> 02:27:04,355 >> I'm going to go against what he just said because I do know personally, 1388 02:27:10,415 --> 02:27:10,415 the insurance companies, they take a totaled vehicle, for example. 1389 02:27:16,700 --> 02:27:19,010 I paid my deductible, whatever it was, and they were paying the rest. 1390 02:27:22,250 --> 02:27:25,205 six months later, I got another bill for a sign because my daughter drove through the sign. 1391 02:27:29,345 --> 02:27:33,275 but they told us that wasn't supposed to come to you. That was supposed to go to 1392 02:27:34,370 --> 02:27:34,370 the insurance company because you've already paid your deductible. 1393 02:27:38,750 --> 02:27:40,910 had I not paid my deductible, I guess it would have disappeared miraculously. 1394 02:27:43,490 --> 02:27:44,915 >> [overlapping] increase over year. >> I have two teenagers. 1395 02:27:49,960 --> 02:27:52,205 >> go forward. >> thank you. 1396 02:27:59,140 --> 02:28:01,460 >> thank you, mayor and council. That brings us to 9e, 1397 02:28:03,485 --> 02:28:04,610 receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on 1398 02:28:08,060 --> 02:28:08,060 the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget supplemental request, 1399 02:28:13,865 --> 02:28:13,865 five-year fund forecast and receive additional direction from 1400 02:28:17,930 --> 02:28:17,930 city council regarding the annual budget for fiscal year 2025-2026. 1401 02:28:22,850 --> 02:28:22,850 the staff presenter this evening is tommy ludwig, city manager. Tommy? 1402 02:28:27,770 --> 02:28:27,770 >> good evening, mayor and council. 1403 02:28:33,490 --> 02:28:37,130 we have a very detailed presentation for you tonight. I'll try to go through it as expeditiously as possible, 1404 02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:42,575 but intention here is to be very transparent. If you have questions regarding anything that I'm discussing, let me know, 1405 02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:49,070 we also attached as an appendix to this presentation every supplemental that was presented. 1406 02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:55,445 I only intend to go through those that I'm recommending or if I'm recommending a service delivery reduction. 1407 02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:59,270 however, if you have questions not associated with the presentation, please let me know. 1408 02:29:03,395 --> 02:29:06,020 with everything that we always do, my focus is always on strong fund balances. 1409 02:29:08,765 --> 02:29:11,570 first and foremost on everything that we look at, and that includes also working capital. 1410 02:29:14,270 --> 02:29:14,270 we have a minimum of 20% requirement for our major funds. 1411 02:29:19,125 --> 02:29:21,355 we're being consistent with that. We also look not just in a one year period, 1412 02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:27,505 but over a five year horizon. You've heard me say many, many times, as we move further away from one year, 1413 02:29:29,865 --> 02:29:32,000 the less confidence we have in our numbers, but it's still important to budget this way from a trend perspective. 1414 02:29:35,420 --> 02:29:38,510 it lets us know, are we seeing revenue go down? Are we seeing expenditures increase? 1415 02:29:41,210 --> 02:29:44,750 are we seeing fund balance reduce? We're paying specific attention to that. We're also taking into account over the five year horizon, 1416 02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:51,400 the impact of the reappraisal plans that we've discussed many, many times from both johnson and tarrant county, 1417 02:29:53,725 --> 02:29:53,725 as well as some softening in our economic growth over the next couple of years. 1418 02:29:57,955 --> 02:30:01,510 I've already alluded this from my comments earlier, but we've not projected any fee increases in revenues, 1419 02:30:04,960 --> 02:30:04,960 including anything associated with the stormwater fees that we've discussed. 1420 02:30:08,965 --> 02:30:12,830 that has a potential for a fairly significant impact to the general fund, but as of now, 1421 02:30:14,180 --> 02:30:15,615 that's not in there. Then finally, our strategic vision from 1422 02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:22,000 the council played heavily in the recommendations that I'm presenting to you this evening. 1423 02:30:24,715 --> 02:30:28,060 then also, with our proprietary and special revenue funds, the cip play in conjunction to our supplementals, 1424 02:30:31,810 --> 02:30:35,080 and we take all of those into account. One of the things that we talked about in may was 1425 02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:40,820 the fact that we were projecting even after the base adjustments of needing to come up with about an 1426 02:30:43,460 --> 02:30:47,135 additional $1.5 million in reductions. I want to talk you through how we've gotten to that number. 1427 02:30:50,510 --> 02:30:50,510 tonight, I'm going to pose for you about $850,000 worth of reductions, 1428 02:30:54,650 --> 02:30:58,475 and approximately $810,000 of those are re occurring. As we look back through the budget, 1429 02:31:00,395 --> 02:31:04,160 we made some additional base level adjustments to the budget, so just looking at historic spins, 1430 02:31:05,930 --> 02:31:09,740 not service delivery reductions, but those line items where we felt like we could reduce with that impacting service delivery. 1431 02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:14,555 we've made those in the base budget. As I said, before, 1432 02:31:16,580 --> 02:31:16,580 we had not yet included salary savings in our projections. 1433 02:31:21,140 --> 02:31:22,940 this is just our standard attrition. We don't budget and assume everyone is going to be filling a position 100% of the time. 1434 02:31:28,055 --> 02:31:30,140 people are going to retire, they're going to promote, they're going to take other positions, 1435 02:31:32,540 --> 02:31:32,540 and so we've budgeted in salary savings of $1 million, 1436 02:31:36,650 --> 02:31:36,650 which is very consistent and very conservative what we've seen historically. 1437 02:31:41,615 --> 02:31:44,750 in total, we were able to hit about $1.9 million, which exceeds the 1.5 we targeted. 1438 02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:50,960 I know it's small here, but my intention is to go through at a high level and go through each one of these. 1439 02:31:55,265 --> 02:31:55,265 these first two items that I specifically proposed, 1440 02:32:00,590 --> 02:32:04,235 and one is changing our merit calendar. Are still budgeting merit in step at 3%. 1441 02:32:08,075 --> 02:32:12,050 but historically, we've had those come into effect on october 1. I'm proposing in the budget that moving forward, 1442 02:32:14,750 --> 02:32:18,125 we would shift that to 1st of january date. What that functionally saves is about $360,000 a year. 1443 02:32:22,085 --> 02:32:24,320 I would be hesitant to recommend shifting anything beyond this state for a couple of reasons. 1444 02:32:27,245 --> 02:32:31,040 one, I still want timely merit increases for our staff, and two, our benefits run on a calendar year, 1445 02:32:35,570 --> 02:32:38,180 and we project a 5% increase year over year, so I want to make sure our employees aren't in a position where they effectively 1446 02:32:41,930 --> 02:32:45,740 get a pay decrease for three months out of the year because their premium goes up, but their raise hasn't gone into effect yet. 1447 02:32:48,095 --> 02:32:48,095 I'm recommending holding an additional engineering position and development services. 1448 02:32:53,270 --> 02:32:53,270 this is very much tied to the amount of work that we see coming in and permit activity. 1449 02:32:59,675 --> 02:32:59,675 right now, I'm projecting to hold this indefinitely. 1450 02:33:03,845 --> 02:33:03,845 should we see a rise in building permit activity and a commiserate increase in revenue, 1451 02:33:10,220 --> 02:33:12,635 then it would be one that I would want to try to restore. But at this time, I'm recommending holding it. 1452 02:33:15,710 --> 02:33:15,710 in finance, gradient services is a third party consultant that we used this year, 1453 02:33:22,250 --> 02:33:24,320 and we intended to use moving forward. They provide various consulting services this year. 1454 02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:29,135 what they looked at was our p card, our city purchase card transactions looking to make sure that one, 1455 02:33:33,785 --> 02:33:35,810 was there any red flags, which there were not, and then two, do we have vendors that we're 1456 02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:44,000 constantly using on p card that we might be able to shift to a purchase order just to better improve our internal controls. 1457 02:33:47,975 --> 02:33:51,290 we didn't have a defined scope of work for them next year, so we're going to be removing that. 1458 02:33:53,090 --> 02:33:55,520 looking through human resources, many of these are really related to limiting travel and training and 1459 02:33:58,940 --> 02:33:58,940 focusing on more in house development opportunities for staff across the city. 1460 02:34:03,500 --> 02:34:03,500 the overtime number specifically related to hr 1461 02:34:08,120 --> 02:34:08,120 specifically looking to leverage more comp time opportunities within that department. 1462 02:34:13,130 --> 02:34:15,770 limiting outside professional services, again, third party trainings, 1463 02:34:17,825 --> 02:34:19,790 etc., coming in. We're also forecasting based on the number of employees that we 1464 02:34:23,810 --> 02:34:23,810 anticipate on boarding over the next several years and being relatively flat, 1465 02:34:27,845 --> 02:34:30,080 that we can reduce our background check needs, so a $5,000 reduction there ongoing. 1466 02:34:33,710 --> 02:34:36,860 you see $3,000 here for a move to paper light. This is a municipal court. 1467 02:34:38,150 --> 02:34:41,480 this is implementation of a software program that they have that's going to be reducing their need to print and consume paper products. 1468 02:34:45,860 --> 02:34:48,650 we see an ongoing reduction there. You'll see meal reductions for city council. 1469 02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:55,340 this is going to be for staff on council nights as well as assume reduction in council attendance at various chamber of commerce events, 1470 02:34:59,465 --> 02:34:59,465 about $4,700 there, rather. 1471 02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:07,535 change in newspaper publications. This is something that we've talked about many, 1472 02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:12,545 many times at the policy evaluation committee and full council. What we would be doing here is shifting more to cleveland times, 1473 02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:19,535 as opposed to advertising in fort worth. We would still utilize for fort worth. 1474 02:35:21,950 --> 02:35:25,355 this would be on an as needed basis, certainly for those more high profile items 1475 02:35:29,450 --> 02:35:31,790 such as various zoning changes or the tax rate. We want to still advertise in fort worth, 1476 02:35:33,530 --> 02:35:33,530 but we'd be shifting more to cleveland times through lots of our publications here. 1477 02:35:39,815 --> 02:35:43,250 for the community development, no longer printing, planning and zoning and old town materials, 1478 02:35:46,175 --> 02:35:49,330 of course, they would still be available online. Legal advertisements. Occasionally, 1479 02:35:52,010 --> 02:35:54,950 our purchasing group would rely on third party services for the development of requests for proposals or requests for qualifications, 1480 02:35:59,135 --> 02:36:02,120 primarily based on workload. We'd be reducing that. 1481 02:36:03,695 --> 02:36:03,695 now, this in turn may result in longer lead times in our procurements, 1482 02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:09,905 but it would be a reduction here. Rotary flags, I know that this item is small, 1483 02:36:12,200 --> 02:36:12,200 but we looked at literally every line in the budget many, many times. 1484 02:36:17,600 --> 02:36:17,600 right now, we do budget $200 a year in the police department to have rotary flags set. 1485 02:36:23,105 --> 02:36:25,970 that's not something that we absolutely have to do. We're proposing to reduce that. 1486 02:36:28,745 --> 02:36:32,450 eliminate council's travel to national league of cities. That'd be a $15,000 reduction to the council budget. 1487 02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:41,390 here, we see remove directors and council retreat. This doesn't mean we wouldn't have retreats. 1488 02:36:43,955 --> 02:36:47,675 it simply mean they would be staff led, which they primarily have been staff led. We would hold them in house, 1489 02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:51,170 and we'd have very limited expenses. We'll still plan to do these things, 1490 02:36:53,180 --> 02:36:56,690 but we essentially won't have a budget associated with them. Egret funding. 1491 02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:01,775 we had that forecast that is a reoccurring expenditure, and I'm proposing to eliminate that 1492 02:37:04,220 --> 02:37:06,590 so there would no longer be additional egret dollars that we've set aside for advanced egret deterrence. 1493 02:37:12,215 --> 02:37:15,140 printing and mailing of the community newsletter. We historically have done that quarterly. 1494 02:37:18,215 --> 02:37:21,920 last year, we cut down to only mailing that out twice a year. This option, it would be 100% digital format, 1495 02:37:24,935 --> 02:37:27,575 so it'd be a $14,000 reduction here. At the police department, 1496 02:37:28,970 --> 02:37:28,970 they have a medsafe drug destruction drop off for your prescription drugs, 1497 02:37:35,060 --> 02:37:39,005 if you would like to safely get rid of your prescription drugs. There is a cost associated with that with the liner in that box, 1498 02:37:43,115 --> 02:37:43,115 and we would be removing this as part of my recommendation so that box would no longer be 1499 02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:53,125 >> lobbying services. >> I'm sorry tommy. We still have the two annual events for the drug take-back. 1500 02:37:57,925 --> 02:38:01,675 I know those are in partnership with the dea and some. >> yes, to my understanding, 1501 02:38:03,940 --> 02:38:05,110 would just be the boss. >> we would still have community collection dates and auctions for citizens. 1502 02:38:09,175 --> 02:38:11,985 >> confirm that's correct. Good question. Lobbying services. 1503 02:38:13,875 --> 02:38:17,310 this would be a reduction of our contract with focus advocacy, essentially eliminating that contract. 1504 02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:19,140 however, we do spend more than this amount with focus advocacy, 1505 02:38:23,860 --> 02:38:27,730 but this is an expenditure offset because we did factor in our contract that was approved with lonestar for federal lobbying. 1506 02:38:32,440 --> 02:38:34,600 if you look and you realize that our contract with focus advocacy is more than this amount, 1507 02:38:37,525 --> 02:38:37,525 we're offsetting the expenditure that we've approved in the budget. 1508 02:38:41,770 --> 02:38:44,950 foundation center grant-seeking database. This is something that the library offers. 1509 02:38:46,870 --> 02:38:50,845 it's basically a database that allows people to apply for grants. We would no longer be offering that. 1510 02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:56,080 there are two municipalities in north texas that we're aware of that still have this. It would be dallas and plano. 1511 02:38:57,430 --> 02:38:59,200 while it wouldn't be as convenient, it is still available for people to access. Armstrong lab. 1512 02:39:04,555 --> 02:39:04,555 this is with the police department for various lab testing that we have to do. 1513 02:39:09,550 --> 02:39:12,820 they are our primary source of lab services. There are low-cost and free labs that we can use. 1514 02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:19,690 however, they have a very extensive lead time. We use armstrong frequently. 1515 02:39:21,700 --> 02:39:24,100 looking historically at our expenditures, we think that we can reduce this line item by 1516 02:39:27,280 --> 02:39:31,000 $20,000 without any operational impacts to the police department. >> I'm assuming these are like our rape kits and that kind of stuff? 1517 02:39:35,335 --> 02:39:38,260 >> multiple types of forensic testing. >> but it's not going to impact? 1518 02:39:40,330 --> 02:39:42,010 >> no. Again, back to if we ever ran into a position where 1519 02:39:46,170 --> 02:39:49,090 we're not going to do anything that's going to limit our police operations response or the timing of anything we do, 1520 02:39:52,525 --> 02:39:54,070 we just looked historically and said, this is a line that we can probably reduce based on historical spins. 1521 02:39:58,915 --> 02:40:00,400 >> that one makes me nervous. >> chief cordell, do you have anything that you want to add to that? 1522 02:40:05,430 --> 02:40:09,340 >> unfortunately, a lot of police work involves labs, so I don't want to inhibit what we're doing. 1523 02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:18,805 >> yeah, obviously, we do not want to reduce services. Armstrong provides us an ability to turn that around a lot quicker, 6-8 weeks. 1524 02:40:25,460 --> 02:40:25,460 you can send the items to be tested to one of three places through dps. 1525 02:40:32,560 --> 02:40:32,560 turnaround time can be up to six months on those. 1526 02:40:37,330 --> 02:40:37,330 then we also have to drive those to either tyler or austin, 1527 02:40:42,040 --> 02:40:43,870 or I can't remember the other place, and pick up, which means we're constantly on the road. 1528 02:40:47,980 --> 02:40:47,980 armstrong gives us some better turnaround times, 1529 02:40:52,840 --> 02:40:52,840 but I think this was based on history. 1530 02:40:58,045 --> 02:40:58,045 but we're one crime train away from that changing. We can't predict that. 1531 02:41:04,645 --> 02:41:07,240 >> I would just like to put an asterisk by that one for now, tommy, something that I'm hesitant about reducing. 1532 02:41:11,305 --> 02:41:11,305 obviously, if their workload isn't there, 1533 02:41:15,460 --> 02:41:16,810 then they don't need that, but in the event that something picks up. 1534 02:41:20,215 --> 02:41:23,560 >> I can assure you that I'd be bringing a mid-year budget adjustment. That's what we do this for or end-of-year budget adjustment. 1535 02:41:27,250 --> 02:41:27,250 again, this isn't about reducing a level of service or trying to reduce our response. 1536 02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:33,280 I think it's really based on looking at the budget and saying, 1537 02:41:37,285 --> 02:41:40,300 this is an area where we feel like we've probably over budgeted, because you're going to have one off. 1538 02:41:42,820 --> 02:41:46,615 >> workload is going to be for the year. >> correct, and so if we make this adjustment, I would anticipate every few years, 1539 02:41:49,930 --> 02:41:51,460 there may be a need to come back based on a particular incident where we may have to have a mid-year adjustment. 1540 02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:58,870 but we can put an answer about that, and sure, of course, if the council wants to strike it, 1541 02:42:00,370 --> 02:42:03,490 this is the whole purpose of tonight's presentation. >> this may be a question for the chief. 1542 02:42:05,410 --> 02:42:05,410 is this something that we could just have on if a situation were to arise? 1543 02:42:11,725 --> 02:42:13,825 would we be able to send it off? Or is this we have to commit? 1544 02:42:16,840 --> 02:42:19,555 >> like a standing contract. >> a standing contract. >> that's a good question. I don't know to have the exact answer for it. 1545 02:42:22,555 --> 02:42:24,970 I will find that out and get back to you. This is our targeted. 1546 02:42:27,415 --> 02:42:30,745 my guess is that we can come back with armstrong and admit that, but I don't know that for sure. I will find out. 1547 02:42:34,690 --> 02:42:36,835 >> I'm with victoria on this one. I don't feel good about it. 1548 02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:46,315 >> is the 20,000 just a portion of the budget? >> yes. I believe, correct. 1549 02:42:49,240 --> 02:42:52,960 >> it's not the complete budget for armstrong. >> if I recall correctly, that total item was about $75,000 originally. 1550 02:42:56,125 --> 02:42:59,545 >> we should continue to use them. We're just going to reduce the budget. >> correct. Yes, sir. 1551 02:43:02,230 --> 02:43:05,830 my recollection, councilman boedeker, is that this contract is like a as we use it type of service. 1552 02:43:11,350 --> 02:43:14,050 we pay for what we use. I don't think we're bound contractually by a specific dollar amount. 1553 02:43:17,065 --> 02:43:18,820 I want chief cordell to verify that, but my understanding is it's just solely based on you pay as you go, 1554 02:43:23,665 --> 02:43:23,665 and you pay for what you've utilized the service for. 1555 02:43:27,835 --> 02:43:31,420 other questions. I know I've gone through this list relatively quickly, but I want to make sure that I'm giving it. 1556 02:43:33,835 --> 02:43:33,835 everything needs time. 1557 02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:43,390 a few other police related items. Originally, when I presented this to the finance committee, 1558 02:43:46,150 --> 02:43:48,925 this tlo item was actually one safe place. One safe place is a firm that we partner with that is a victim's advocacy group. 1559 02:43:54,205 --> 02:43:57,895 deep talking with chief cordell, that's one that was near and dear to his heart. That was an $11,000 reduction. 1560 02:44:00,085 --> 02:44:00,085 he has since proposed with his command staff that we look at 1561 02:44:04,435 --> 02:44:04,435 reducing our total number of subscriptions to our tlo database. 1562 02:44:09,835 --> 02:44:11,800 this is a database we use for research. We have other platforms that we can use to access the same type of data. 1563 02:44:16,165 --> 02:44:18,310 we're not really reducing service, and I thought this would be a better shift because 1564 02:44:21,490 --> 02:44:21,490 the one safe place reduction would have been a service delivery reduction. 1565 02:44:26,440 --> 02:44:29,440 >> I appreciate the chief standing up for that one. That one's really important; it impacts directly 1566 02:44:31,780 --> 02:44:34,690 the citizens that we're serving. Thank you. >> as we go through this, many of these things are 1567 02:44:37,150 --> 02:44:40,200 not things that we would like to reduce. The important services, the del carmen racial profiling reports. 1568 02:44:45,130 --> 02:44:47,290 we produced that quarterly, but statutorily, we're only required to do that annually. 1569 02:44:50,635 --> 02:44:54,310 we would reduce that down; we would still meet our annual requirement, but we would reduce the total dollar amount there by $10,000 annually moving forward. 1570 02:44:59,125 --> 02:45:02,215 the btx rebate program. This is lisa delelo and tony's program 1571 02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:07,750 that offers matching grants up to $5,000 for home repairs for individuals, 1572 02:45:13,150 --> 02:45:13,150 and this has been a program that has been used to the fullest for the last several years. 1573 02:45:18,700 --> 02:45:20,230 it's been an excellent program, but it's not something we absolutely have to do. 1574 02:45:22,840 --> 02:45:23,950 when we look at reductions, this was one that begrudgingly that I put on the list to do. 1575 02:45:28,585 --> 02:45:30,910 the swat breaching software. What this is, this is essentially a database that the police department can utilize 1576 02:45:34,720 --> 02:45:34,720 to look at how other departments have utilized various explosives. 1577 02:45:39,835 --> 02:45:43,465 we also rely on our own data for that primarily. This would just be essentially eliminating that database, 1578 02:45:47,470 --> 02:45:47,470 but again, we rely on our own information internally from historical history. 1579 02:45:52,195 --> 02:45:52,195 from a standpoint of talking with command staff and with swat, 1580 02:45:57,025 --> 02:45:57,025 this was not one that they deemed to be specifically operationally impactful. 1581 02:46:02,605 --> 02:46:05,425 there's a one-time reduction of letter map revision allocations for professional services pay in development services, 1582 02:46:11,020 --> 02:46:11,020 that's not ongoing, but we anticipate we could see savings here this year. 1583 02:46:15,490 --> 02:46:15,490 then we did hire an hvac technician in facilities, 1584 02:46:19,675 --> 02:46:21,925 and so we think that we're going to be able to reduce our reliance on third-party services. 1585 02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:29,665 we see a reduction there. In terms of overall reductions, 1586 02:46:32,260 --> 02:46:34,210 this is what I'm proposing. I would say, I don't want to make this abundantly clear. 1587 02:46:37,045 --> 02:46:40,630 I've had questions about burleson opportunity fund. It's not being proposed as a reduction. 1588 02:46:43,855 --> 02:46:46,420 the council had given me direction last year to look at that as a one-time supplemental and reconsider every year, 1589 02:46:49,885 --> 02:46:49,885 so it's not on the reduction list because it wasn't an ongoing expenditure, 1590 02:46:55,390 --> 02:46:57,070 but it is not listed in my recommended supplementals at this time that I'm going to touch on in a moment. 1591 02:47:01,480 --> 02:47:04,990 depending on how you look at it, that could be perceived as a reduction, so I want to make it clear that we're trying to be transparent. 1592 02:47:08,995 --> 02:47:12,880 any questions or concerns associated with the deductions, save the comments associated with armstrong labs? 1593 02:47:19,220 --> 02:47:19,220 >> I would like to strike that one. 1594 02:47:23,270 --> 02:47:27,200 the armstrong lab services. The $20,000 reduction. 1595 02:47:30,960 --> 02:47:30,960 >> I trust that the pd is going to know when something 1596 02:47:36,480 --> 02:47:36,480 can withstand a longer wait time or turnaround time and when something can't. 1597 02:47:43,490 --> 02:47:46,710 I don't know what that dollar number is going to look like, but I think we should just accept that that one might be a little bit more 1598 02:47:49,230 --> 02:47:52,690 fluid because who knows what situations might pop up in the next budget year that 1599 02:47:56,110 --> 02:47:59,890 will require us to turn around those lab results, and I wouldn't want to impede on the work that they're doing. 1600 02:48:03,220 --> 02:48:04,720 >> duly noted, and again, no intention there of impacting any police operations, 1601 02:48:08,380 --> 02:48:09,670 what I will say is this, is that I'm presenting this to you a little bit in a vacuum 1602 02:48:13,450 --> 02:48:13,450 because I don't have our certified roles so what I'm recommending to you tonight, 1603 02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:17,590 I'm doing with the caveat is that it may drastically change when you see 1604 02:48:22,090 --> 02:48:22,090 my recommended filed budget because we may have changes in our revenue assumptions. 1605 02:48:28,390 --> 02:48:31,600 >> the money may not be there. >> the money may not be there, and, of course, you, as council always reserve the right to modify 1606 02:48:33,970 --> 02:48:33,970 my recommended budget as you see fit when you take your final vote. 1607 02:48:40,400 --> 02:48:44,010 I will do my best to try to keep that line item out, but given the fact that I just don't know where we are with revenue, 1608 02:48:47,685 --> 02:48:51,300 I can't commit that I won't recommend it as the file budget, but you certainly have the right to change that as the council. 1609 02:48:56,560 --> 02:48:56,560 with regards to total of supplemental request recommended 1610 02:49:01,270 --> 02:49:01,270 or requested by the departments for the general funds over $5.5 million, 1611 02:49:06,475 --> 02:49:08,890 I'm going to be recommending a little less than a million dollars with at least a revenue offset of 1612 02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:12,160 $108,000 that was recommended or discussed by chief davis with the fire inspections. 1613 02:49:18,280 --> 02:49:20,320 most of these are going to be ongoing, and then there's 1.5 ftes that I've recommended. 1614 02:49:24,930 --> 02:49:24,930 first and foremost on my list was public safety equity pay, 1615 02:49:29,365 --> 02:49:29,365 and that was one that we had talked about previously at full council. 1616 02:49:33,760 --> 02:49:33,760 that's $765,000, and that's a reoccurring expenditure. 1617 02:49:38,215 --> 02:49:40,360 the axon master services agreement. This was one that was discussed at council. 1618 02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:46,240 it went back to public safety committee, and ultimately public safety committee, after they received additional feedback, 1619 02:49:48,220 --> 02:49:48,220 made recommendations of approval of that to the full council. 1620 02:49:52,570 --> 02:49:52,570 would say here that we're not forecasting an increase in this over 1621 02:49:56,590 --> 02:49:56,590 the next five years based on how we would be structuring that contract. 1622 02:50:00,760 --> 02:50:03,850 I would say that I have made some assumptions in the base budget about operational efficiencies that we would see as 1623 02:50:07,180 --> 02:50:10,615 a result of the use of that technology that would help lead to that being a zero cost over the next five years. 1624 02:50:15,205 --> 02:50:18,640 the arson investigator and fire inspector, again, chief davis has spoken about this. 1625 02:50:21,565 --> 02:50:22,810 I'd be recommending that, but with a revenue offset of at least the 108, 1626 02:50:26,440 --> 02:50:26,440 but depending on if the council moves forward, ultimately, 1627 02:50:30,730 --> 02:50:32,110 with adopting all the fees, it would be a total revenue offset between that and the emerging fire. 1628 02:50:36,295 --> 02:50:36,295 well, I'm also recommending installation of an additional handicap ramp 1629 02:50:41,770 --> 02:50:41,770 at the senior center adjacent to where the accessible parking is now, 1630 02:50:46,945 --> 02:50:46,945 a third-party annual safety audit of all of our playground facilities. 1631 02:50:51,610 --> 02:50:51,610 it would just be a one-time third-party assessment to ensure that 1632 02:50:55,960 --> 02:50:55,960 those facilities are meeting our safety protocols and standards that we expect. 1633 02:51:02,970 --> 02:51:02,970 the finance committee did not see this last item I've added since that meeting. 1634 02:51:10,165 --> 02:51:14,035 an additional seasonal drainage worker, a budget cycle ago or so, 1635 02:51:16,105 --> 02:51:19,150 we shifted from public works to the parks department, drainage-related maintenance functions, 1636 02:51:21,280 --> 02:51:24,265 and just to continue to keep up and peak demand, adding a part-time person to help keep up with that. 1637 02:51:27,745 --> 02:51:30,010 we only moved one fte, and we knew with public works, 1638 02:51:32,665 --> 02:51:33,760 when things got busy, they had larger crews that could help absorb some of that. 1639 02:51:37,075 --> 02:51:40,240 this is really probably more of an equity thing to try to give the parks department the resources they need to keep up with that demand. 1640 02:51:44,050 --> 02:51:44,050 this would be in a no tax rate increase scenario. 1641 02:51:49,150 --> 02:51:51,235 assuming a 2% growth, the council could fund this and not have a tax rate increase, 1642 02:51:56,530 --> 02:51:59,770 and this would be what your five-year projection would look like: what the ending fund balance of a little over 22%. 1643 02:52:05,820 --> 02:52:09,580 any questions associated with the supplementals recommended in a non-tax rate increase scenario? 1644 02:52:14,395 --> 02:52:16,915 >> I just had one comment. >> yes, sir. >> do a great job. No problem. 1645 02:52:20,640 --> 02:52:23,350 thing stuck out to me. This is very, very petty, I guess. 1646 02:52:26,410 --> 02:52:26,410 the staff reduction in meals for here. 1647 02:52:31,210 --> 02:52:31,210 I don't think we should expect these guys to go all day without a day meal. 1648 02:52:37,660 --> 02:52:39,205 if you're going to reduce them, take ours away, get me a hamburger, and fry on the way. 1649 02:52:42,805 --> 02:52:46,540 that saves a lot of money, but I don't expect those ladies to sit here from noon until 10:00 at night without eating. 1650 02:52:49,705 --> 02:52:52,885 that's just very little amount of money. We either feed them or we don't feed us. 1651 02:52:56,020 --> 02:52:59,710 I'm sorry. I'm not speaking for the rest of these guys. >> can I just do a point of clarification on that, 1652 02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:06,010 because there is a little bit of background on that, because we did talk about this. Currently, what we were doing is purchasing 25 meals for every council meeting. 1653 02:53:12,115 --> 02:53:12,115 we were just saying any and every possible person that could come to a council meeting. 1654 02:53:17,440 --> 02:53:19,360 but as you can see, not all staff stay. This is a irregular meeting where most of the staff has stayed. 1655 02:53:22,990 --> 02:53:25,750 that reduction there is not the full reduction. It's not like we're not going to supply meals; 1656 02:53:27,520 --> 02:53:29,500 it's just going to be at a reduction. Currently, what we do is we just really try to make sure we have enough meals, 1657 02:53:34,570 --> 02:53:37,105 and as you can see, sometimes we have a ton left over. It's a little wasteful, is what we're seeing also. 1658 02:53:39,460 --> 02:53:39,460 we're trying to do that. There is still some capacity within the budget, 1659 02:53:45,205 --> 02:53:46,570 even though we're reducing it, that number is very large because it also is water. 1660 02:53:51,950 --> 02:53:51,950 >> snacks and everything else. 1661 02:53:55,970 --> 02:53:55,970 we would not be requiring people if they needed to eat, 1662 02:54:00,255 --> 02:54:02,625 we wouldn't say you're not eating this evening. We would just make sure that we're doing it in a proper. 1663 02:54:05,415 --> 02:54:05,415 we're just trying to take a finer pin to our numbers that we had and 1664 02:54:10,200 --> 02:54:12,510 that's what I've done is I just took that finer pin to it to make sure we were doing it the best way. 1665 02:54:15,135 --> 02:54:17,100 >> I appreciate it. I just asked staff if they're going to be here tonight and you want to be fed. 1666 02:54:19,725 --> 02:54:21,315 yeah, I see what you're saying. Thank you. 1667 02:54:25,335 --> 02:54:27,300 >> in this next scenario, we're assuming a tax rate increase. 1668 02:54:31,215 --> 02:54:34,485 just keep in mind that you are limited to 3.5% increase on the m&o portion of your tax rate. 1669 02:54:38,220 --> 02:54:41,520 you've directed me to prepare a budget does not assume a voter exceeding that rate and going to the voters for approval, 1670 02:54:44,940 --> 02:54:48,585 and we've exceeded that calendar timeline essentially already. For every 1%, not $0.01, for every 1%, 1671 02:54:52,170 --> 02:54:54,360 it's about $260,000 increase, and again, assuming a 2% growth rate. 1672 02:54:57,225 --> 02:54:59,760 the maximum that you could increase the m&o budget by would be not quite a million dollars. 1673 02:55:03,960 --> 02:55:03,960 in the event that the council implemented a 3.5% increase, 1674 02:55:09,480 --> 02:55:13,200 I would be recommending four supplementals which would be the three paramedics for 1675 02:55:16,590 --> 02:55:16,590 the staffing of the fourth ambulance and one additional patrol officer. 1676 02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:21,510 of note, that I want to make sure that I state clearly, 1677 02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:29,190 in the event that the paramedics are not hired, we do anticipate having to absorb that call volume 1678 02:55:33,210 --> 02:55:33,210 on overtime which chief davis is projected to be about $270,000. 1679 02:55:40,040 --> 02:55:40,040 questions associated with this scenario and 1680 02:55:44,250 --> 02:55:47,580 then you see your five year projected fund balance is slightly higher than the other scenario because the cost are slightly below the increased revenue. 1681 02:55:55,380 --> 02:55:55,380 you see that number b a little bit different. 1682 02:56:02,870 --> 02:56:02,870 any thoughts before I move on to the other funds? 1683 02:56:10,280 --> 02:56:10,280 four b, we had about $860,000 worth of request. 1684 02:56:15,720 --> 02:56:15,720 I'd be recommending 400,000 with approximately 2.5 ftes. 1685 02:56:21,435 --> 02:56:25,065 this first item here is recommending an aquatic maintenance specialist for 1686 02:56:27,345 --> 02:56:30,885 the brick to perform various maintenance related functions. Having somebody that specifically dedicated and focused 1687 02:56:33,870 --> 02:56:37,365 on maintenance of our assets there. Then we'd also recommend a part time field athletic attendant. 1688 02:56:43,050 --> 02:56:46,740 we're projecting additional tournaments and because of that we'll need increased man hours there. 1689 02:56:50,820 --> 02:56:52,770 if we don't add this individual, we would be paying it in overtime probably exceeding this number in overtime. 1690 02:56:56,775 --> 02:56:59,235 we think that makes sense. This next item would be providing irrigation for our sensory garden at russell farm. 1691 02:57:05,580 --> 02:57:09,120 there's an item that we discussed previously at both park board, as well as council for additional slide, maintenance, 1692 02:57:12,660 --> 02:57:16,140 a contract for our new slide, having the vendor come in and do maintenance and provide training. 1693 02:57:19,980 --> 02:57:19,980 we treated that as a one time expenditure to evaluate 1694 02:57:24,645 --> 02:57:24,645 whether made sense and something we to continue to do ongoing. 1695 02:57:29,160 --> 02:57:33,090 we're also forecasting use of some additional protective chemicals at the brick for the stair structure for the slide. 1696 02:57:37,575 --> 02:57:40,590 some additions of portable pushing mounds. There's a program room update at the brick that serves as 1697 02:57:43,260 --> 02:57:47,235 a flex space that would be replacing some flooring, repainting, tent on some windows, 1698 02:57:49,770 --> 02:57:52,080 removing some shelving, etc. This next item would be a new dump trailer 1699 02:57:55,410 --> 02:57:59,055 for athletics that would be shared across the parks department today. My understanding is that trailer when it's used, 1700 02:58:02,970 --> 02:58:06,630 it's used from the public works department, is just not an efficient use of time. Then an additional ice machine to keep up with various activities. 1701 02:58:16,010 --> 02:58:18,345 this is another item. These next two were not seen by the finance committee 1702 02:58:22,620 --> 02:58:22,620 because we were awarded grants between the finance committee and today's presentation. 1703 02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:27,750 we did receive an urban forestry grant for to hire arborist position. 1704 02:58:34,390 --> 02:58:34,390 that would be the revenue offset here would be 50,000 in the first year, 1705 02:58:39,625 --> 02:58:42,150 and then 25 for the next two years. We do have the full position budgeted across the five year horizon and moving forward. 1706 02:58:47,895 --> 02:58:51,240 we also have additional tree maintenance. That was a grant and it was a one time, 1707 02:58:54,300 --> 02:58:57,120 and then there's a revenue offset associated with that. Then we also have an item here, 1708 02:58:59,910 --> 02:58:59,910 and we didn't discuss this in great detail in our budget amendment about taking on 1709 02:59:05,670 --> 02:59:05,670 some maintenance responsibilities at bartlett and some of our contract renegotiation. 1710 02:59:11,685 --> 02:59:11,685 we're making some assumptions here about the city taking on maintenance responsibilities, 1711 02:59:17,265 --> 02:59:17,265 and we'd be retaining existing trucks until new trucks came in because the staff, 1712 02:59:22,335 --> 02:59:22,335 the housed a athletics would need to travel to bartlett to do that maintenance. 1713 02:59:27,830 --> 02:59:31,080 assuming that that budget adjustment was approved, we would order new trucks, 1714 02:59:32,580 --> 02:59:34,665 but until such time as those come in, we've got new trucks that are nearing delivery and so we would just 1715 02:59:39,210 --> 02:59:39,210 basically use those and keep the existing trucks in service until the replacements came. 1716 02:59:46,010 --> 02:59:46,010 parks performance fund is a pass through account, as you all know, 1717 02:59:50,220 --> 02:59:54,165 so there's really no fund balance discussion to be had here. However, I want to pause for a moment and go back to 1718 02:59:57,780 --> 02:59:57,780 the recommended supplementals and see if there are any questions or concerns. 1719 03:00:07,430 --> 03:00:10,425 shifting on to hidden creek golf course, $500,000 worth of request. 1720 03:00:12,435 --> 03:00:12,435 I'm going to be recommending a $200,000 worth of supplementals with an fte. 1721 03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:23,835 going line by line, there's some in ground trash cans that we're proposing as well as 1722 03:00:26,670 --> 03:00:26,670 some additional ball wash stations at 1723 03:00:30,720 --> 03:00:34,080 various holes just to help provide opportunities for people to throw away trash in a more productive manner perhaps. 1724 03:00:37,950 --> 03:00:40,860 this air fire is something that we actually rent and it actually by purchasing this equipment, 1725 03:00:44,700 --> 03:00:46,485 we actually save money. The ongoing cost is associated with our equipment replacement fund contribution. 1726 03:00:53,940 --> 03:00:57,720 the side cutter is another piece of equipment that we rent and I think that costs something of $500 a week when we have to use it. 1727 03:01:01,770 --> 03:01:05,760 again, more cost effective to try to purchase that equipment. Tree removal and limb up. 1728 03:01:08,070 --> 03:01:11,940 this is 29,000 in the first year, 20,000 reoccurring, thereafter, just to continue trying to make 1729 03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:16,830 improvements to the course and making sure that we're maintaining the trees as we need to be. 1730 03:01:19,335 --> 03:01:22,440 additional turf training for staff beyond our superintendent, just making sure that staff has 1731 03:01:23,880 --> 03:01:23,880 a good education on how to properly maintain the turf at the golf course. 1732 03:01:28,290 --> 03:01:31,140 a seasonal grounds keeper and this car born attendant, these are both part time individuals, 1733 03:01:33,390 --> 03:01:33,390 and genet alluded to the fact that we have carp burn superintendent that will 1734 03:01:39,435 --> 03:01:43,410 becoming a mechanic and will be reducing the amount of contributions we make to the equipment services fund by $75,000, 1735 03:01:47,700 --> 03:01:47,700 that will help offset these additional positions that we also discussed as part of 1736 03:01:52,110 --> 03:01:52,110 the ongoing staffing to continue to enhance golf operations. 1737 03:01:57,120 --> 03:01:57,120 then the finance committee actually recommended to add two additional items here, 1738 03:02:03,120 --> 03:02:03,120 drainage basin repairs and some additional irrigation expansion at the golf cars. 1739 03:02:07,935 --> 03:02:10,410 these are not necessarily specific areas. I'm sure james has them targeted, 1740 03:02:12,090 --> 03:02:14,385 but nothing was specifically mentioned in the finance committee with relation to location. 1741 03:02:17,805 --> 03:02:21,615 any questions associated with the recommendation? Yes, ma'am. >> the tree removal and limb up, 1742 03:02:24,495 --> 03:02:24,495 could the arbors that we have that it's coming on staff, 1743 03:02:30,870 --> 03:02:32,625 could they not take care of that? >> they are going to be really focused in on trying to 1744 03:02:35,790 --> 03:02:39,075 develop an urban forestry plan, doing tree inventory, identifying the types of trees we have, 1745 03:02:43,140 --> 03:02:46,590 when we should be replacing trees, what the treatment methods should be. Do we have trees that maybe we 1746 03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:51,690 should no longer be planning because they may not be native? They're really more going to be focusing in on trying 1747 03:02:54,150 --> 03:02:56,565 to come up with the overarching plan, not really doing maintenance per se. 1748 03:02:59,295 --> 03:03:02,700 now, they may play a role in giving recommendations on how trees should be trimmed up or pruned appropriately, 1749 03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:06,240 but they wouldn't necessarily be the ones doing the actual work. 1750 03:03:10,880 --> 03:03:10,880 other questions associated with golf. 1751 03:03:19,820 --> 03:03:19,820 you'll see here, the golf self sustaining number as 1752 03:03:24,150 --> 03:03:28,065 we shown before is still hovering around that 71%. We're not making lots of assumptions about future increases in fees. 1753 03:03:33,480 --> 03:03:36,690 we'll just take that as we continue to make improvements, we'll continue to increase or make modifications to the fee structure. 1754 03:03:39,930 --> 03:03:43,620 the hope is that if we continue to make those investments, that we'll see a better self sustaining number, 1755 03:03:46,560 --> 03:03:46,560 but we're not projecting that right now. 1756 03:03:50,690 --> 03:03:53,970 four b fund, there are only a couple of items here that I'm recommending one a mr. Machine, 1757 03:03:58,665 --> 03:03:58,665 and then some canopies for special events. 1758 03:04:04,190 --> 03:04:07,140 then when we look at the 4b, about 48% fund balance over the five years. 1759 03:04:11,355 --> 03:04:11,355 this takes into account the existing proposed capital plan. 1760 03:04:17,540 --> 03:04:17,540 questions associated with 4b before I move on. 1761 03:04:25,760 --> 03:04:28,940 it support fund. There's various recommendations here from mr. Gramish, 1762 03:04:34,155 --> 03:04:36,855 about $840,000 worth of request. I am going to be recommending one request here in the amount of 1763 03:04:40,140 --> 03:04:43,380 $660,000 that I will touch on here. This is our cohesity backup. 1764 03:04:45,570 --> 03:04:48,945 this is essentially the infrastructure that's required to make backups of all of our databases and it infrastructure. 1765 03:04:54,450 --> 03:04:54,450 the existing equipment essentially reached its end of life and is no longer supported. 1766 03:04:59,820 --> 03:05:03,150 this would be good for a five year horizon. Then after five years, 1767 03:05:04,830 --> 03:05:04,830 we'll be back at this again with a new number with the changes he's making in 1768 03:05:09,630 --> 03:05:12,300 infrastructure and the changes we've made with regards to cad and the number of virtual servers we need, 1769 03:05:15,675 --> 03:05:18,750 we hope that this number may ultimately go down in the future in terms of how much backup capacity we need, 1770 03:05:22,470 --> 03:05:25,260 but it's still too early to say, and we don't know what prices will be in five years. 1771 03:05:29,450 --> 03:05:32,295 with regards to the it support fund, I want to touch on a couple of things here. 1772 03:05:34,290 --> 03:05:37,560 you do see the $606,000 one time supplemental, but you'll see a drawdown of approximately 1.2 million. 1773 03:05:40,725 --> 03:05:43,980 that's a plan drawdown over a two year period, and this is essentially putting up funding for 1774 03:05:46,200 --> 03:05:49,080 the johnson county radio network infrastructure that we know that we're going to have to be making a contribution toward. 1775 03:05:52,350 --> 03:05:52,350 we'd be cash funding that as of now and james will continue 1776 03:05:57,030 --> 03:05:57,030 to look for the best ways to support the radio network moving forward, 1777 03:06:01,530 --> 03:06:03,630 but right now we're making the assumption we'll make that 1.3 million dollar contribution. 1778 03:06:07,820 --> 03:06:07,820 hotel motel. We received 1779 03:06:12,105 --> 03:06:12,105 one recommendation of supplemental request that I'd be recommending is to 1780 03:06:16,830 --> 03:06:20,415 be enhanced and expanded 4th of july program because this is next year will be the 250th anniversary of independence. 1781 03:06:26,550 --> 03:06:29,865 budgeting a little bit more for a special occasion. We do have sufficient fund balance in the hotel motel fund to accommodate the request. 1782 03:06:36,375 --> 03:06:36,375 with that said, that wraps up the total number of 1783 03:06:40,530 --> 03:06:40,530 supplementals that I'm making recommendations for, 1784 03:06:44,640 --> 03:06:46,185 as well as my reductions. Again, finance committee has seen all of these with 1785 03:06:48,750 --> 03:06:52,590 the exceptions of the handful of items that I think that I've touched on. Seek feedback from you all tonight on any of the recommendations that you may have. 1786 03:06:57,900 --> 03:06:57,900 then, again, finalizing this is going to be critical to the filing of the budget. 1787 03:07:03,990 --> 03:07:03,990 friday may come and I may have different numbers and I may have to make 1788 03:07:09,090 --> 03:07:09,090 some changes to accommodate whatever revenue we see or if we see shortfalls. 1789 03:07:17,115 --> 03:07:19,050 with that said though, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have associated with the presentation. 1790 03:07:22,125 --> 03:07:22,125 >> anybody got any wants or questions or anything? 1791 03:07:27,470 --> 03:07:30,045 I think you good to go, buddy. >> I think the only thing that I'll add is that, 1792 03:07:35,870 --> 03:07:35,870 I don't want to continue to harp on the fact that we don't know what friday will bring. 1793 03:07:41,085 --> 03:07:43,440 it is possible we could see negative numbers. If we do, it's going to change these assumptions here and I'll stop 1794 03:07:46,530 --> 03:07:50,340 working way backward on my recommended supplementals. In terms of the general fund, the public safety, 1795 03:07:53,445 --> 03:07:57,180 equity adjustment would remain my number one, I would try to bun that at all costs beyond other positions, 1796 03:08:01,245 --> 03:08:01,245 even public safety positions simply because we can budget for those, 1797 03:08:05,880 --> 03:08:08,010 but if we don't pay people adequately, I won't be able to fill the position. 1798 03:08:10,785 --> 03:08:10,785 again, I say that knowing what I've also said about 1799 03:08:14,895 --> 03:08:14,895 the paramedics and that we may see overtime costs associated with that. 1800 03:08:20,160 --> 03:08:23,070 we'll be mindful and we'll try to clearly articulate everything in the budget as we go through 1801 03:08:26,730 --> 03:08:29,910 those presentations but when we file it and go through in greater detail in our next several sessions. 1802 03:08:34,680 --> 03:08:38,520 if you have no other questions, that wraps up my presentation. >> we're good. Come on. 1803 03:08:39,975 --> 03:08:39,975 >> thank you. 1804 03:08:45,140 --> 03:08:47,835 >> that brings us to 9f. Receive a report, hold a discussion, 1805 03:08:49,980 --> 03:08:49,980 and give staff direction on amendments to council policy number 40 1806 03:08:54,210 --> 03:08:56,400 and various chapters in the code of ordinances concerning boards, commissions, and committees. 1807 03:08:59,430 --> 03:09:03,030 staff contact is amanda campo, city secretary. >> good evening, mayor and council, 1808 03:09:05,340 --> 03:09:05,340 so we'll move on to the exciting portion of the meeting. 1809 03:09:09,980 --> 03:09:09,980 >> this is an accumulation of two meetings that we had 1810 03:09:14,130 --> 03:09:17,460 with the council policies evaluation committee. This isn't just a one-time meeting. 1811 03:09:19,470 --> 03:09:23,370 they did meet over this several times to review all of these. What were we reviewing? 1812 03:09:24,870 --> 03:09:24,870 the main focus of the review was the creation and purpose of all the boards, 1813 03:09:30,060 --> 03:09:34,050 commissions, and committees, the memberships and term, and the current board structure, and the number of boards that we have. 1814 03:09:37,190 --> 03:09:40,770 we'll look first at the creation and purpose. Just so you know, we looked at it, 1815 03:09:42,990 --> 03:09:46,140 and is the original creation and purpose still valid? Yes, however, it's not in the most ideal way for all of them. 1816 03:09:49,650 --> 03:09:52,890 there is room for improvement. Of course, there's always room for improvement. It's been probably decades since we last looked at their actual purpose and mission, 1817 03:09:58,470 --> 03:10:00,135 and how we were using those. Nothing here is to say that if we change it 1818 03:10:02,850 --> 03:10:05,700 here and we get down the line two years and we say, this isn't working, that we can't change it again, 1819 03:10:07,815 --> 03:10:10,110 all of this is at the discretion of the city council. These are your boards commissions and committees, 1820 03:10:12,240 --> 03:10:12,240 and we want them to function in the highest value way that we can. 1821 03:10:16,350 --> 03:10:18,390 after meeting and reviewing all of them, the recommendations that came forward from 1822 03:10:20,460 --> 03:10:20,460 the committee members is increase their guidance for a purpose. 1823 03:10:25,635 --> 03:10:28,380 that's to staff and everybody else. We just haven't been consistent across the board with all of our boards and commissions, 1824 03:10:33,030 --> 03:10:34,785 and we want to make sure we do that. Committee members feel valued when 1825 03:10:37,500 --> 03:10:40,545 they know what their purpose is and what they're doing. They don't hear from their neighbor that they're on another boarder committee, 1826 03:10:43,620 --> 03:10:47,190 and they're doing something different from them, and then they feel left out. We don't want that. We want increased participation. 1827 03:10:49,890 --> 03:10:51,900 we want active participation. This will allow them to focus more on development and 1828 03:10:56,460 --> 03:10:56,460 community needs by removing items that they looked at what they look at for budget, 1829 03:11:01,410 --> 03:11:04,965 finances of the city, fines and fees, and maintenance operations. I think tonight is a perfect example that the council is 1830 03:11:07,530 --> 03:11:10,860 overseeing that part of it and keeping track of that. What you want is your citizens voices there for the major developments parks. 1831 03:11:17,010 --> 03:11:18,900 you want to move those forward, the library, you want to keep continuing to move that forward, 1832 03:11:21,090 --> 03:11:24,975 and you need your citizens to talk about that. If we did that, how would we accomplish that? 1833 03:11:27,660 --> 03:11:30,360 I just wanted to give a quick snapshot on that is we would have to edit the code of ordinances. 1834 03:11:33,330 --> 03:11:33,330 remember, any edits that we do to the code of ordinances will require two readings. 1835 03:11:38,895 --> 03:11:42,480 I would bring anything forward on the 4th, and then the 18th august meeting would be the final change in those. 1836 03:11:48,345 --> 03:11:48,345 we would also want to amend your council policy 40, 1837 03:11:52,350 --> 03:11:52,350 which deals with your boards and commissions outside of the code of ordinances. 1838 03:11:57,860 --> 03:12:00,945 we're trying to give some more guidance here. This is just the wording we came up with that we would present 1839 03:12:04,020 --> 03:12:07,215 the items in there for their meeting. We would recommend bringing forward 1840 03:12:09,795 --> 03:12:09,795 their recommendations through the director or the city manager or his designee. 1841 03:12:16,470 --> 03:12:18,960 we said necessary time frame for the items, because sometimes these items need to come and turn around pretty quickly. 1842 03:12:22,815 --> 03:12:25,050 they may meet this week and then turn around on the 4th and have something right before you, 1843 03:12:27,270 --> 03:12:30,765 so we'll allow them to do that within that. We also want them to provide reports that are full consensus of the members, 1844 03:12:36,960 --> 03:12:39,390 that understanding that not all the recommendations coming forward are going to be unanimous. 1845 03:12:41,100 --> 03:12:43,845 sometimes they're going to have some differing opinions on that, and it's important that you understand that they're differing opinions. 1846 03:12:47,730 --> 03:12:51,375 that doesn't mean you'll go with the minority over what the majority says. It's just that maybe it'll get you thinking differently on why 1847 03:12:55,005 --> 03:12:55,005 maybe two members didn't agree with the direction of the rest of the board. 1848 03:12:59,475 --> 03:13:01,110 we would want them to do that. We would want them to provide a high-level executive summary. 1849 03:13:04,260 --> 03:13:07,560 this is important because we don't want them to provide verbatim minutes. If we were going to do that, I would recommend to the city council that we record, 1850 03:13:11,220 --> 03:13:13,695 we video every board and commission meeting. Then that would be your verbatim minutes. 1851 03:13:16,515 --> 03:13:20,310 I don't want to put more onto the staff members, and the committee members did not either, 1852 03:13:21,900 --> 03:13:21,900 but we also wanted to make sure it was very important that we were 1853 03:13:26,010 --> 03:13:26,010 reflecting their full discussion that was happening at the board or committee level. 1854 03:13:32,840 --> 03:13:36,360 any of the board members up there that wanted to speak at any time to stop me and you guys can jump in. 1855 03:13:39,810 --> 03:13:43,785 then we'll move on to the membership and terms. Does the membership still work? 1856 03:13:46,485 --> 03:13:46,485 yes, membership does. This council looked at the membership number and terms in 2022/2023. 1857 03:13:56,355 --> 03:13:58,935 you guys have been consistent with that. The only thing that they did recommend to change was that, 1858 03:14:02,820 --> 03:14:02,820 the park board to be a full three-year terms like the p&z. 1859 03:14:07,155 --> 03:14:10,665 all boards and commissions are two-year terms, except for the plan and zoning, which was three-year terms. 1860 03:14:13,860 --> 03:14:13,860 the committee recommended the three year apply to the park board also. 1861 03:14:20,085 --> 03:14:20,085 then the membership to stay the same as nine members on every board and commission. 1862 03:14:26,240 --> 03:14:26,240 how would we accomplish? That's a quick edit to the chapter 2 1863 03:14:30,270 --> 03:14:30,270 also by adding and park board on there. Membership & terms. 1864 03:14:37,500 --> 03:14:40,650 we wanted to talk about as far as attendance goes, because the way that it's written currently is very vague, 1865 03:14:44,805 --> 03:14:44,805 and it could be read different ways, and we were unsure of where 1866 03:14:48,900 --> 03:14:52,665 board members needed to report their absences. We are saying, to change that language up to make it clearer 1867 03:14:57,330 --> 03:15:01,005 for the board members serving and for council. We also wanted to make sure that it wasn't as harsh, 1868 03:15:04,455 --> 03:15:04,455 and so it wasn't an immediate removal. It's let's talk about that. 1869 03:15:08,880 --> 03:15:08,880 during the appointment process is when we would bring that forward. 1870 03:15:13,140 --> 03:15:13,140 I'd note that down, and that would be part of the city secretary's office report 1871 03:15:18,780 --> 03:15:18,780 to the appointments committee that somebody failed to meet the 75%. 1872 03:15:24,270 --> 03:15:26,910 the reason why that's important is because you could have a board that met three times in the whole year, 1873 03:15:29,955 --> 03:15:29,955 and so that's hard to make that 75% if you're only meeting three times. 1874 03:15:36,420 --> 03:15:36,420 we wanted to make sure that there's the full picture that the council is viewing. 1875 03:15:42,315 --> 03:15:46,230 we have to remember that these are volunteers that are serving on these committees, and we don't want to judge them as harshly as we 1876 03:15:48,600 --> 03:15:52,470 would maybe an employee that didn't do the same thing. We want to make sure we're appreciative of them and understanding that absences happen. 1877 03:15:57,840 --> 03:15:57,840 we would change the policy also to add in there that they should notify 1878 03:16:03,270 --> 03:16:03,270 my office and the board liaison within the 72-hour notice of absences. 1879 03:16:09,825 --> 03:16:09,825 as in tonight, we had two previous meetings that were going to occur, 1880 03:16:14,580 --> 03:16:18,330 the tif meeting and the 4b meeting, and those did not occur, and you guys didn't know until last minute. 1881 03:16:19,995 --> 03:16:23,565 we had to scramble, and that's because we weren't notified until today, and no excuse was given. We just can't make it. 1882 03:16:26,835 --> 03:16:29,790 we would want to try to firm that up a little bit. That helps us with planning also. Sometimes what they're doing, 1883 03:16:33,795 --> 03:16:33,795 we rely on the following meeting to get in place. 1884 03:16:38,600 --> 03:16:41,460 quorum and the texas open meetings act, this was a very spirited conversation. 1885 03:16:44,970 --> 03:16:48,525 I think the committee members and myself were on one side, and the city attorney, matt robitski, was on a different side. 1886 03:16:55,280 --> 03:16:58,545 we're not saying that people can't talk. That's not what we're saying. We just need help to meet, 1887 03:17:01,530 --> 03:17:04,425 because we have some boards that are very unique, and unique, as in, their membership requires them to have members outside of our area. 1888 03:17:10,410 --> 03:17:10,410 they're not citizens. It would be ideal if we did have, like, 1889 03:17:14,576 --> 03:17:16,590 on the animal shelter advisory, if we did have a licensed veterinarian who's a citizen of burleson, 1890 03:17:19,860 --> 03:17:19,860 and a licensed veterinarian or somebody that's in charge of animal welfare, like, 1891 03:17:25,770 --> 03:17:25,770 that they could be anywhere in the county or the city or the state and be on this board, 1892 03:17:31,650 --> 03:17:33,195 and so we wanted to do that. Then the advisory committee on people with disabilities, 1893 03:17:37,590 --> 03:17:41,430 we have a committee there that it is sometimes a physical impairment for them to get to city hall, 1894 03:17:45,660 --> 03:17:49,350 because that's part of the reason why they're on our ada committee. We were trying to make it actually virtual meetings 1895 03:17:53,370 --> 03:17:53,370 could be better held and more realistic to be able to be held. 1896 03:17:57,990 --> 03:17:57,990 but after the review, the legal recommends that we stay under toma. 1897 03:18:03,615 --> 03:18:05,865 I know the other city attorneys looking at me too. But we can add verbiage for quorums that would help with these quorum issues. 1898 03:18:10,965 --> 03:18:10,965 I will say that alan taylor also was there too and said 1899 03:18:16,350 --> 03:18:18,930 the same thing and said that they would help us craft the wording to make it better and easier for these boards to meet 1900 03:18:24,180 --> 03:18:27,120 because when you have an ada committee that's trying to meet to bring forward a policy recommendation for all, 1901 03:18:30,450 --> 03:18:32,400 and this is something we need in the city, and we're trying to get forward for our citizens, 1902 03:18:34,845 --> 03:18:38,160 and we can't meet because we don't have a quorum because somebody can't get a ride up here to city hall to meet. 1903 03:18:41,805 --> 03:18:45,000 part of the membership is that some of the members have to have disabilities in order to serve on the board. 1904 03:18:48,705 --> 03:18:48,705 we'll work that one out. We're still working with the legal council, 1905 03:18:54,360 --> 03:18:54,360 and so we should get something soon and then we'll modify that. 1906 03:18:58,410 --> 03:18:58,410 the born property advisory council. That one was created not by the council, 1907 03:19:03,750 --> 03:19:03,750 but through the agreement because of the adoption of the russell farm property. 1908 03:19:08,700 --> 03:19:11,970 we feel like we can remove that one because there are maybe two members that are here locally, 1909 03:19:14,970 --> 03:19:14,970 everybody else is like in austin and everywhere else and so we're 1910 03:19:19,020 --> 03:19:19,020 okay with removing that one and just addressing that through our agreement. 1911 03:19:23,580 --> 03:19:26,600 we'd modify the agreement. How would we accomplish that? Just like I said, we'd edit policy 40 to add quorum, 1912 03:19:30,350 --> 03:19:34,115 establishing some number required to hold a meeting, and then also amend the russell farm facilities use agreement and 1913 03:19:38,420 --> 03:19:38,420 resolution establishing that one so that we can we can make them be able to meet. 1914 03:19:43,895 --> 03:19:46,890 they don't actually say things, and then you guys take action on what they do. 1915 03:19:49,320 --> 03:19:49,320 they're a little bit different. Then we looked at how many boards 1916 03:19:55,440 --> 03:19:58,230 and what their current structure is. Here's what the committee recommended. 1917 03:20:01,620 --> 03:20:05,340 we'll keep unchanged because they have specific legal requirements, the plan and zoning commission, 1918 03:20:06,960 --> 03:20:10,155 the board of adjustments, and the capital improvement advisory. We would combine into a brand new board, 1919 03:20:12,960 --> 03:20:15,555 the cemetery, and the citizens public art. Just to note the citizens public art committee was set to terminate in december. 1920 03:20:20,790 --> 03:20:24,120 it was a just very specific purpose committee, and we'll just have that ongoing, 1921 03:20:25,590 --> 03:20:28,185 but into this new committee, their function. The park board renaming that to the parks and recreation board, 1922 03:20:31,740 --> 03:20:34,560 that better reflects what they're doing because they do the brick and everything else, not just parks. 1923 03:20:37,890 --> 03:20:40,110 change the park board. Park now the new park and recreation board, remove the russell farm, 1924 03:20:44,190 --> 03:20:44,190 because we would handle that through the born property advisory council. 1925 03:20:48,825 --> 03:20:51,030 the animal shelter advisory committee, we would remove the cost effectiveness from 1926 03:20:53,430 --> 03:20:56,715 their function and have them follow state law, because we are required to have an animal shelter advisory committee under the state law, 1927 03:21:01,080 --> 03:21:03,840 and those state statutes are specific on what they would do. They would still function under that. 1928 03:21:06,135 --> 03:21:09,390 we would expand old town development standards, and I don't think we went into specifics on how we would expand that, 1929 03:21:12,420 --> 03:21:14,250 but we want to start working towards that. I'd work with development services to try to come 1930 03:21:16,980 --> 03:21:19,920 up with an idea of how to expand theirs and probably bring that back again to 1931 03:21:21,960 --> 03:21:25,755 the council policies evaluation committee to do some more work there, and then create a brand new committee, 1932 03:21:29,055 --> 03:21:31,020 the public spaces and cultural history, which would incorporate the cemetery, 1933 03:21:33,990 --> 03:21:36,540 the citizens public art, and the senior center, which we had not addressed in any of 1934 03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:40,470 these other boards or commissions now would be addressed, and then anything else. I know that mayor pro tem 1935 03:21:44,910 --> 03:21:47,430 mcclinton has always been in favor of some theater coming forward or some short term stuff like that runs here, 1936 03:21:53,610 --> 03:21:55,020 somewhere we could find that. This would be a new committee that could help try to figure 1937 03:21:58,320 --> 03:21:58,320 out what the best avenue forward on that would be. 1938 03:22:03,890 --> 03:22:03,890 I'm just going to let you now tell me what directions based on these recommendations, 1939 03:22:09,300 --> 03:22:12,045 how would counsel like to move forward with these? Are there any that we don't want to move forward with or ask questions or modify? 1940 03:22:17,100 --> 03:22:17,100 >> I'm just confused. Slide page 12. 1941 03:22:22,410 --> 03:22:22,410 >> oh, gosh, it's not 12 in mine. I don't know which one. 1942 03:22:26,595 --> 03:22:26,595 >> go back one more. No, yes, right there. Sorry. 1943 03:22:31,710 --> 03:22:32,820 >> this one? >> yes. Court. The one that says we are not state that's the one. 1944 03:22:39,720 --> 03:22:42,645 the born property advisory committee, we're going to eliminate that one? 1945 03:22:44,265 --> 03:22:44,265 >> no. It'll stay. It's just not going to be under the texas open meetings act. 1946 03:22:49,575 --> 03:22:52,080 >> that's what I was confused about. Thank you. Because we went back and said, we're going to call it this. Thank you. 1947 03:22:56,310 --> 03:22:59,250 >> anything else? >> I'd like to know from the committee why the recommendation of 1948 03:23:04,140 --> 03:23:04,140 moving back to for a parks board to be a three year term. 1949 03:23:08,505 --> 03:23:08,505 it's a popular board. It's highly sought after. Just a couple of years ago, 1950 03:23:13,485 --> 03:23:13,485 the reason we had moved to two years was so more people could rotate through. 1951 03:23:22,490 --> 03:23:22,490 ideal. We know, planning and zoning is popular, 1952 03:23:27,045 --> 03:23:30,180 libraries popular in parks because they're active, and people really strive to be on those. 1953 03:23:33,075 --> 03:23:36,480 I don't know what the thought process behind that was. >> this was something dan brought up. 1954 03:23:38,130 --> 03:23:41,160 of course, he's not here tonight. I can't speak for him. I don't know what all his intentions were, 1955 03:23:43,500 --> 03:23:43,500 but he did bring it up in the meeting. I wasn't much discussion on it. 1956 03:23:47,880 --> 03:23:51,720 >> I see both sides, of course, if I got on parks, I'd want to stay there too, but it's highly sought after. 1957 03:23:55,200 --> 03:23:55,200 it just gives people more opportunity to get on. We can get involved. 1958 03:23:59,955 --> 03:24:03,210 >> we can move p and z back to two terms, I guess, also. >> I think the discussion around p and z is that it is a lot to understand, take on. 1959 03:24:11,475 --> 03:24:13,950 I mean, I'm perfectly I could go either way, too, but I remember that discussion being because it's 1960 03:24:16,320 --> 03:24:19,035 like drinking from a fire hydrant on and they're actually bound by they 1961 03:24:21,540 --> 03:24:25,095 have legal requirements that they have to meet in that kind of stuff. So theirs was a little bit different. But I can go either way, 1962 03:24:28,965 --> 03:24:28,965 but I know parks is just it's a popular one a lot of people want to serve on it. 1963 03:24:33,900 --> 03:24:36,390 when it's a three year term, it's hard because we don't turn it over as much. I don't know. 1964 03:24:39,075 --> 03:24:40,320 >> well, I can't speak to dan either, but I know to get more participation is why we increase the number of 1965 03:24:44,190 --> 03:24:44,190 people on the board for seven to nine so you get more people on. 1966 03:24:49,290 --> 03:24:52,890 >> we did both at the same time. We increased the board seats, and we decrease terms to try and get people more opportunity. 1967 03:24:57,510 --> 03:24:59,820 I mean, every year, especially as we grow, more and more applications come through. I'm up for, I know dan's not here, 1968 03:25:04,620 --> 03:25:06,780 and he was the one who made the recommendation. >> I suggest when he gets back in town. 1969 03:25:09,555 --> 03:25:09,555 >> there was no discussion. I do not remember much. 1970 03:25:14,460 --> 03:25:17,955 in fact, when we met the second time, mayor pro tem mcclinton said, on terms when 1971 03:25:21,810 --> 03:25:24,150 I was reviewing recommendations, he said terms. He said, we're going to increase park board, 1972 03:25:25,830 --> 03:25:29,010 and I did not have it down on my notes that we were, but he was adamant that he remembered that to be the case. 1973 03:25:33,555 --> 03:25:37,380 >> should we move everything back to two years and then it's across the board and not one or two that stand out? 1974 03:25:42,045 --> 03:25:44,490 >> remember the terms are three years. Two is really six years and three year terms are nine that's nine years. 1975 03:25:56,210 --> 03:25:56,210 >> [inaudible] 1976 03:26:15,320 --> 03:26:16,460 >> I just know like p & z, the parks board has a lot to learn when they get on there, 1977 03:26:19,970 --> 03:26:22,880 and it takes them a long time to learn it, and once they get to rolling, then they roll right off. 1978 03:26:24,425 --> 03:26:28,090 then you start the education all over again. We did increase the number so that more people could be on there. 1979 03:26:32,685 --> 03:26:32,685 that was before me. That was previous council. 1980 03:26:38,660 --> 03:26:38,660 >> you have to sit off one full term or go to another board? 1981 03:26:43,050 --> 03:26:46,335 >> correct. When you reach your term limit, then you need to sit out one full term, 1982 03:26:49,470 --> 03:26:49,470 or you could be appointed to another board or commission. 1983 03:26:55,520 --> 03:26:55,520 >> [inaudible] 1984 03:27:17,520 --> 03:27:17,520 >> the other council members, do they? 1985 03:27:23,210 --> 03:27:25,845 >> I'm fine with three years, including the nine, two full term. 1986 03:27:28,890 --> 03:27:28,890 [overlapping] the membership of nine. 1987 03:27:35,085 --> 03:27:37,050 >> we've got nine. >> include three years. 1988 03:27:40,110 --> 03:27:43,080 >> for all of them or just the park board? >> for all. 1989 03:27:44,280 --> 03:27:47,070 >> because currently, right now, everybody except for planning and zoning does two three-year terms, so that's six years. 1990 03:27:52,485 --> 03:27:56,160 >> that's six years. >> planning and zoning does three three-year terms, so they do nine years. 1991 03:28:06,800 --> 03:28:08,970 >> [background] six years is a long time, nine years is long time, too. 1992 03:28:10,965 --> 03:28:13,410 I don't know. Whatever, what everybody agrees with, I'm fine. 1993 03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:22,155 >> how many did I do on p&z, amanda? 07? >> I'm sorry. 1994 03:28:22,815 --> 03:28:25,595 >> when did I get on p&z? Fifteen, 16, is like seven. A long time. 1995 03:28:29,685 --> 03:28:31,515 >> do you think that's too long? >> no. I hit the end, 1996 03:28:35,265 --> 03:28:35,265 I was going to be done with that, to change plans. 1997 03:28:41,630 --> 03:28:44,235 planning and zoning for sure, it takes a good year or two to get going, 1998 03:28:47,205 --> 03:28:50,340 to learn all the stuff before you need to go, and then you're done with your term. 1999 03:28:51,765 --> 03:28:54,165 it's like being up here. It takes a year or two. Without that experience, it's a lot steeper inclined. 2000 03:28:59,600 --> 03:28:59,600 but it doesn't matter to me. We got to make a decision. 2001 03:29:04,165 --> 03:29:04,165 >> [inaudible] 2002 03:29:11,610 --> 03:29:12,930 >> the other part with that, too, is that it gives more people an opportunity to come in, 2003 03:29:15,960 --> 03:29:15,960 but it also gives an opportunity for other visions to be seen. 2004 03:29:22,370 --> 03:29:25,170 speaking artistically. [laughter] 2005 03:29:30,390 --> 03:29:33,090 >> this is why y'all make this decision and I don't. [laughter] it's not an easy thing. 2006 03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:42,690 there's multiple sides to it, and either way you go, there's one side or the other that's not going to be happy with what you're doing. 2007 03:29:45,975 --> 03:29:49,260 as long as you're taking the approach of trying to go forward with equity and involvement, 2008 03:29:53,220 --> 03:29:55,860 if that's your end goal, then whatever you do, and again, I'm standing before you, 2009 03:29:58,170 --> 03:30:01,350 we've changed these before. We did it in 2023, and I'm before you in 2025, 2010 03:30:03,150 --> 03:30:06,300 saying we may change it again. We can change it. Harlan said we could change it every six months if we want to. 2011 03:30:09,600 --> 03:30:12,830 >> let me throw this out there. We can think about p&z going back to two full terms. 2012 03:30:16,530 --> 03:30:19,200 but instead of having to sit out for a full term, how about sit out for a year, 2013 03:30:21,015 --> 03:30:22,635 and then you can reapply? Then it's up to the committee to determine, okay, 2014 03:30:26,445 --> 03:30:30,030 and maybe that was the only person that applied, and they're wanting to get back on, 2015 03:30:31,380 --> 03:30:33,195 and then let them back on. >> that one I'm less circular about, 2016 03:30:36,720 --> 03:30:39,120 because I think you see your applicant pool and you're trying to engage as many people as we can. 2017 03:30:46,160 --> 03:30:49,010 I think it is about the fair piece of, I just want to let more people get the opportunities to serve. 2018 03:30:52,710 --> 03:30:54,285 some of these committees, they email regularly, and they're like, hey, 2019 03:30:57,105 --> 03:31:00,120 if there's ever more, my board hasn't met, but one time this year. 2020 03:31:01,935 --> 03:31:04,440 I absolutely appreciate the perspective of considering the public spaces and cultural heritage. 2021 03:31:08,085 --> 03:31:11,010 that's being creative and trying to look for opportunities where we can combine some of these and give people 2022 03:31:13,875 --> 03:31:13,875 more engagement opportunity because those that are offering their time, 2023 03:31:19,800 --> 03:31:23,430 they're wanting to do stuff, and then there's not enough for them to do. That's what I don't like the perception that if you get on certain boards, you're golden, 2024 03:31:30,015 --> 03:31:32,370 and you get to stay longer, but these other ones that don't necessarily have the workload, 2025 03:31:36,720 --> 03:31:40,130 you're rolling off a lot sooner, too. >> we are very lucky in burleson. 2026 03:31:43,320 --> 03:31:46,350 we don't have the problem of not having applicants wanting to be on our boards and commissions. 2027 03:31:49,410 --> 03:31:51,810 in fact, we have the complete opposite. You are right, council member johnson, 2028 03:31:54,120 --> 03:31:54,120 we have people that have applied consistently every year for at least five years, 2029 03:31:59,685 --> 03:32:02,250 every year, [overlapping] and have still not been able to be appointed to any board or commission. 2030 03:32:05,610 --> 03:32:09,180 >> or committee. >> what's our retention rate on the parks board? [overlapping] how many people drop out? 2031 03:32:10,980 --> 03:32:13,050 >> [overlapping] nobody leaves the parks board, the library board, the animal shelter, nobody leaves. 2032 03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:19,830 they only leave if we force them off, mayor. [laughter] 2033 03:32:24,120 --> 03:32:27,225 >> for fairness, I think we should absolutely remove the stipulation of when you're termed out, 2034 03:32:30,600 --> 03:32:32,085 you have to wait an entire term. I think one year is very considerate. 2035 03:32:34,740 --> 03:32:34,740 then if we could just make it even across the boards to say, two three-year terms. 2036 03:32:41,550 --> 03:32:45,495 that's six years consistently. That would be my recommendations, 2037 03:32:48,380 --> 03:32:52,260 unless and sometime in the future, our application poll shrinks. But we have a lot of applicants that apply 2038 03:32:54,840 --> 03:32:57,540 for things and people that are eager to be involved, and we just want to find opportunities for them to do so. 2039 03:33:00,690 --> 03:33:00,690 >> planning and zoning is one of those boards that we will 2040 03:33:04,830 --> 03:33:04,830 consistently have the greatest amount of people wanting to be. 2041 03:33:09,045 --> 03:33:12,105 we've talked about the park board, but in reality, the planning and zoning commission is the one that everybody wants to be on. 2042 03:33:16,695 --> 03:33:16,695 because we've had people for so long and continue to be for so long, 2043 03:33:21,045 --> 03:33:23,340 I don't mean to offend you, mr. Janis, but those are the people that every year, 2044 03:33:32,730 --> 03:33:35,750 are you sure I can't? Is there no opening? >> I've never seen dan bring something up. 2045 03:33:38,340 --> 03:33:41,190 he didn't have a good reason to bring it up. If we're going for quantity, not quality, 2046 03:33:44,040 --> 03:33:44,040 we could always go to one term if that's the argument. 2047 03:33:49,320 --> 03:33:52,245 but I'm back in dan. I don't know what his reason was. I don't know why he brought it up, but he did. 2048 03:33:54,480 --> 03:33:54,480 >> he was adamant about it, too. 2049 03:33:59,240 --> 03:34:02,460 >> [overlapping] but he didn't give a reason. >> [inaudible] just call him in kawaii. 2050 03:34:04,230 --> 03:34:07,230 [laughter] >> how much do you care about this right now, mr. Mcclendon? 2051 03:34:10,800 --> 03:34:14,580 as you're probably on a glamorous height. [laughter] >> what time is it there? 2052 03:34:16,760 --> 03:34:19,980 >> that's true. I completely agree with you. I wish dan were here. 2053 03:34:21,075 --> 03:34:23,880 I don't know. I threw it out there, and no one has a good answer. Should we just table this? 2054 03:34:25,350 --> 03:34:28,860 >> we can. The only thing that I would say is, I would like to bring something forward for action on 2055 03:34:31,350 --> 03:34:34,920 the second meeting in august for sure because it'll take two readings, and then the final reading in september, 2056 03:34:37,635 --> 03:34:40,410 because our terms start october 1, and anything we do, 2057 03:34:41,835 --> 03:34:44,565 I wanted to have that in place. Then also, if we're going to create this new board public spaces we want to make sure 2058 03:34:50,280 --> 03:34:53,250 we have that so that the appointments committee is looking at that and appointing people beginning october 1. 2059 03:34:56,805 --> 03:34:58,335 we want to do that. I'm fine with bringing this back again and 2060 03:35:02,130 --> 03:35:02,130 getting some clarification from mayor po tem mcclendon. 2061 03:35:06,360 --> 03:35:09,240 then I can bring forward that way, because I think the terms are what we're just going both sides. 2062 03:35:15,525 --> 03:35:18,180 everybody can go either way, one year, two terms, 2063 03:35:20,130 --> 03:35:21,540 one term, three terms. This one, yes, no. Dan will be here, 2064 03:35:26,190 --> 03:35:28,665 then we can close the whole deal at one time, could we? >> I was like, can't you bring it already written up? 2065 03:35:31,560 --> 03:35:34,935 >> I can bring it with three different options. Then y'all pick which option you want for that particular one, 2066 03:35:38,610 --> 03:35:42,495 and then we can go forward with that. If we're good with everything else, then this is the only one, 2067 03:35:43,740 --> 03:35:47,265 and I can bring forward some more options with that, and then you can choose. >> we might change our mind, too. You never know. 2068 03:35:49,680 --> 03:35:52,065 >> that's true, we could. Dan could persuade us all. The other thing to consider is if we're combining a couple, 2069 03:35:55,395 --> 03:35:55,395 then that means we're going to be lessening the amount of seats available, 2070 03:36:00,480 --> 03:36:03,390 total for people to serve in. >> one was rolling off anyway, right? 2071 03:36:05,220 --> 03:36:05,490 >> yes. >> the citizens public art committee was due to end in december. 2072 03:36:10,050 --> 03:36:13,350 that membership, I don't even think is nine. >> it's not nine. >> no, it's five. 2073 03:36:15,450 --> 03:36:18,045 >> we also have people that aren't necessarily citizens. We have a representative from hill college. 2074 03:36:21,390 --> 03:36:24,210 I like the idea of involving more citizens. >> this would be our citizens. 2075 03:36:25,590 --> 03:36:29,280 of course, your cemetery board members, there are some that are terming out, 2076 03:36:30,990 --> 03:36:33,550 and then there's some that, they're very inactive that board, 2077 03:36:36,140 --> 03:36:38,705 but we would absolutely offer them, is this a board you'd like to be? 2078 03:36:40,685 --> 03:36:43,565 >> in the ada board with the restrictions we had on it, we weren't getting a quorum anyway. 2079 03:36:45,575 --> 03:36:48,065 >> I know. >> they weren't all there. >> that's another one. I didn't see that one listed, 2080 03:36:50,030 --> 03:36:53,445 and that one I couldn't figure out which board. >> [overlapping] the ada will stay. >> it's still there. We were trying to get it to where they didn't fall under. 2081 03:36:57,420 --> 03:36:59,400 >> [overlapping] that's why it was on that slide. We were trying to get it to where it didn't fall under [inaudible] 2082 03:37:02,160 --> 03:37:05,970 >> but now if it does, we're talking maybe allowing the virtual meetings and things like that to where people could participate and not have to be up here. 2083 03:37:09,195 --> 03:37:11,940 they're looking into that. Matt's looking into that. >> [overlapping] matt's looking into that. 2084 03:37:13,290 --> 03:37:16,700 >> I appreciate that matt. >> why is matt being so quiet? 2085 03:37:19,365 --> 03:37:19,365 >> he looks like he's on time out. 2086 03:37:23,610 --> 03:37:23,610 >> I'm wondering why nobody will sit next to him. 2087 03:37:27,770 --> 03:37:30,240 >> matt versus the whole city. [laughter] 2088 03:37:31,950 --> 03:37:33,270 >> do you have direction? >> sure. [laughter] 2089 03:37:37,290 --> 03:37:38,880 >> pacifying me. >> no, I do, mayor. 2090 03:37:41,505 --> 03:37:44,955 I appreciate the discussion. Thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. 2091 03:38:02,900 --> 03:38:05,460 >> that was going to take us on, but apparently, we're not going to go on. 2092 03:38:07,440 --> 03:38:11,010 we're going to go back to item 9e, because the city manager just can't get enough. 2093 03:38:13,860 --> 03:38:13,860 he's going to talk more about the fiscal year 2025/2026 budget supplemental request, 2094 03:38:20,535 --> 03:38:22,575 five year fund forecast, and receiving additional direction. 2095 03:38:25,245 --> 03:38:27,390 >> forty minutes wasn't enough. No. I just simply have one question for you guys that I 2096 03:38:31,080 --> 03:38:31,080 realize after I sat down that I didn't expressly ask. 2097 03:38:35,190 --> 03:38:38,805 I gave you two options, one without a tax rate increase, and one with a tax rate increase, 2098 03:38:40,800 --> 03:38:40,800 and I never asked you which option you were directing me to proceed with. 2099 03:38:47,240 --> 03:38:47,240 I gave you two options. I gave you no tax rate increase, 2100 03:38:52,860 --> 03:38:56,685 which essentially did not have the paramedics and police officer. Or I gave you an option in the general fund for a tax rate increase of approximately 2101 03:39:00,810 --> 03:39:00,810 3.5% that would fund the three paramedics and police officer. 2102 03:39:07,545 --> 03:39:10,305 I need direction from you guys, how you'd like me to proceed. >> the finance committee recommended a 3.5% increase to add that. 2103 03:39:14,685 --> 03:39:14,685 what's not in the budget is the potential revenue of 2104 03:39:19,350 --> 03:39:19,350 having the fourth ambulance operational from calls and things, 2105 03:39:23,505 --> 03:39:26,655 but I support the increase. >> with our finance situation, 2106 03:39:28,455 --> 03:39:28,455 I don't see how we can say no to the increase. Everybody on board? 2107 03:39:34,860 --> 03:39:37,770 >> the other thing that wasn't in the budget too was the possible stormwater runoff fee that we still have to discuss. 2108 03:39:41,730 --> 03:39:41,730 >> correct? We're all on board? We're on board. 2109 03:39:46,215 --> 03:39:49,110 >> I just wanted to make sure before we move forward with budget that I expressly asked. Thank you. 2110 03:39:56,840 --> 03:40:00,450 >> with that, we'll move on to section 10: city council request for future agenda items and reports. 2111 03:40:08,330 --> 03:40:08,330 well, that will bring us to section 11 executive session. 2112 03:40:13,785 --> 03:40:17,070 in accordance with chapter 551 of the texas government code, the city council will convene into executive session in 2113 03:40:20,010 --> 03:40:20,010 the city council work room in city hall to conduct a closed meeting. 2114 03:40:24,795 --> 03:40:24,795 they will go into executive session pursuant to section 551.071, 2115 03:40:31,260 --> 03:40:31,260 551.072, and 551.087. 2116 03:40:38,670 --> 03:40:42,360 >> is there a motion to go into executive session? >> so moved. 2117 03:40:44,340 --> 03:40:47,100 >> I've got adam, and I've got alexa. Please vote. Pass is unanimous. 2118 03:40:54,555 --> 03:40:57,765 we're going to executive session at 9:23. We can convene into the regular session. 2119 03:41:06,020 --> 03:41:06,020 I got a motion by victoria and a second by phil. 2120 03:41:12,255 --> 03:41:12,255 please vote. Pass is unanimous. 2121 03:41:18,990 --> 03:41:22,550 is there a motion to adjourn? Victoria. Alexa. We're out of here at 10:11.