1 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:37,300 The meeting of a public city committee to order at a 5 p.m. territory or a convent, I respectfully inaugurate 2 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:46,360 a convent that the city of Budaply is located on the insulated territories of Moscow, Skomish, 3 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,120 through this and cocoon peoples. 4 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:56,320 Each nation has distinct history and distinct traditional territories 5 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,280 that are fully accomplished in the city. 6 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,500 We encourage you to learn more about the whole nations 7 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:10,240 whose ancestors have occupied and used these lands, 8 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,600 including parts of the present day, burdened by thousands of years. 9 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:24,260 Adoption of Agenda, the Papasifti-Kameli-Mini Agenda for Subtainable Suit, 2020-26, 10 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,960 as there are any changes to the Agenda, where somewhere in the pre-smoothermotion 11 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,540 adopt the Agenda of Subtainable Suit, 2020-26, 12 00:02:36,540 --> 00:02:43,860 So moved, in the second, I was looking forward, I was looking forward, I was looking forward 13 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:52,340 I adopted an alpha-minus, the Minus of the Public Security Committee meeting held on June 25th, 14 00:02:52,340 --> 00:03:02,420 2026, was there any change, or as to the Minus, for someone please move a motion to adopt 15 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:10,320 the Middle East of the Pops of the Community, meaning how to earn June 25th, so moved 16 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:17,440 in the second, second, all the same fever in the post, carried. The next one is the 17 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:25,540 delegations and the United Apprentices. The first two delegations are all for a similar topic. 18 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:33,140 where we will have them present one after another and ask for comments and the questions 19 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:36,620 after the second one is completed. 20 00:03:38,660 --> 00:03:47,040 Now we have the allocation from Machio first regarding the rise in all the temperatures 21 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,060 and to the impact of indoor heat, 22 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,840 uh, renewable people across BC. 23 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,740 So, Michelle, you're a pre-stick seat at the present table, 24 00:03:58,220 --> 00:04:00,500 and proceed when you're ready. 25 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,500 Appreciate it. 26 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:08,760 Uh, as we can see, the world is getting hotter. 27 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:13,440 The 2021 heat dome was not a nice-lated event. 28 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,900 According to NASA, 29 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:22,120 But 2024 was the warmest year on record, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. 30 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:28,480 NASA also reports that the 10 most recent years have been the warmest years ever recorded. 31 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:36,140 The graph on the slide shows the trend upward trend of global temperatures since the 1800s. 32 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:44,660 So it's really not a matter of if there will be another heat dome, but really when will the next one be? 33 00:04:44,660 --> 00:04:47,660 And how many more lies will be lost this time? 34 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,220 Canada is warming twice as fast as the global average, 35 00:04:52,780 --> 00:04:56,180 and Canada's Arctic is warming nearly four times as fast. 36 00:04:57,060 --> 00:04:59,660 For local governments, this means that extreme heat 37 00:04:59,660 --> 00:05:03,120 is becoming more frequent, more intense, and more dangerous. 38 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:07,400 Heat adaptation is no longer a future concern. 39 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:10,220 It is a current public health necessity. 40 00:05:10,220 --> 00:05:25,800 And the heat risks from extreme heat include cardiovascular events, respiratory conditions, kidney disease, adverse pregnancy outcomes, and mental health impacts, such as increased anxiety, depression, and aggressive behavior. 41 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:41,510 Who is most at risk? The impacts of extreme heat are not experienced equally. Research following the heat dome found that older adults, people living alone, and people without access to air conditioning experience, the highest risk. 42 00:05:41,690 --> 00:05:49,830 Low-income renters face particular challenges because they often live in older buildings with poor thermal performance. 43 00:05:50,470 --> 00:05:53,690 They have a limited ability to install cooling equipment. 44 00:05:54,190 --> 00:05:57,940 They cannot afford air conditioning or other higher electricity costs. 45 00:05:58,870 --> 00:06:01,370 And they have less flexibility to leave overheated homes. 46 00:06:02,110 --> 00:06:09,610 People with disabilities, chronic illnesses, language barriers, and limited social connections also face significant risk. 47 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:15,470 extreme heat, therefore becomes both a climate issue and an equity issue. 48 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:24,430 One of the most important lessons from the 2021 heat dome is that most fatalities and 49 00:06:24,430 --> 00:06:30,670 occurred indoors, reports following the event found that nearly all heat-related deaths occurred 50 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:34,690 inside buildings, and many of those who died did not have air conditioning available. 51 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:37,290 This is why housing conditions matter. 52 00:06:37,290 --> 00:06:41,970 B.C. has long recognized that tenants require protection from cold temperatures. 53 00:06:42,770 --> 00:06:46,790 However, for many years, there's been no equivalent protection when indoor temperatures 54 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:48,290 become dangerously hot. 55 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:54,190 As climate change increases the frequency of extreme heat events, thermal safety, inside 56 00:06:54,190 --> 00:06:57,870 rental housing should be viewed as a basic public health requirement. 57 00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:02,630 A home should not become a health hazard during extreme weather. 58 00:07:05,190 --> 00:07:11,190 What can local governments do about the global issue in response to the deaths that occurred 59 00:07:11,190 --> 00:07:12,030 during the heat dome? 60 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:17,410 New Westminster became the first municipality in Canada to adopt an indoor heat by-law. 61 00:07:18,170 --> 00:07:23,110 This by-law requires landlords to maintain at least one living space in a tenant occupied 62 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:29,330 rental unit at an average temperature of 26 degrees Celsius or below between 8 p.m. 63 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:43,760 And a-day, I'm during the heat season. The policy recognizes that cooling is a life-saving necessity for many residents. New Westminster also previously prohibited blanket restrictions on portable air conditioning units in rental housing. 64 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:52,080 Their work provides vertiby with a made in Metro Vancouver policy model that can be studied and adapted here. 65 00:07:55,180 --> 00:08:01,180 My request for the committee is, I mean, 66 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:02,940 Bernabey has already taken important steps. 67 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,860 The city currently operates cooling centers during extreme heat events 68 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:11,140 and provides residents access to libraries, recreation facilities, community centers, 69 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,680 drinking water stations, shaded areas, and cooling resources. 70 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:21,220 So building on that strong foundation, I encourage you to consider the following actions. 71 00:08:21,220 --> 00:08:26,780 direct staff to investigate and endorse heat by-law for rental housing, assess older rental 72 00:08:26,780 --> 00:08:32,100 buildings that may pose elevated heat risks, expand outreach to vulnerable residents during 73 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:37,060 heat emergencies, support building retrofit programs that improve cooling and resilience, 74 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,640 continue strengthening climate, climate, education, and public health planning. 75 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,600 And these measures can help ensure that vulnerable residents are protected before the next heat emergency 76 00:08:49,220 --> 00:08:54,180 occurs. And so the call to action, you know, it showed us that extreme heat can be fatal. 77 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:59,660 We know who's most at risk. We know that indoor heat is a major contributor to harm. And 78 00:08:59,660 --> 00:09:02,980 Bernabey is demonstrated leadership and climate action and emergency preparedness. 79 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:05,740 So cooling 80 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:10,180 is not a luxury. It's a life-saving and infrastructure. So thank you for your time and 81 00:09:10,180 --> 00:09:13,260 consideration to create the city that we all want to live in and be. 82 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:21,060 Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. We will invite you back after the second presentation. 83 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,340 So we have now a dedication from Max Dixon. 84 00:09:27,060 --> 00:09:34,120 Well, doc, we're going to see the board to implement on Max and the heat spiral for run to units. 85 00:09:36,620 --> 00:09:39,540 Right. Thank you so much for allowing me to present today. 86 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:43,760 So, I'm a renter in Bernabee, I've lived here since 2024. 87 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:48,440 Let me tell you a little bit about my summer last year. 88 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,800 So, I live in one of those old rental buildings that Michelle was talking about. 89 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:54,760 Built in the sixties, purpose built rental. 90 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:57,700 It is not the hottest unit in the building. 91 00:09:57,860 --> 00:10:04,000 I'm only on the second floor, but last year when temperatures were consistently hot as they are every year and how it seems. 92 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 that the apartment was getting similarly hot. 93 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,680 So over 32 degrees consistently on the hottest days. 94 00:10:11,540 --> 00:10:14,760 And I'm not someone with real specific vulnerabilities, right? 95 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,420 But I don't have any major health issues that make me more vulnerable to heat. 96 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,500 But still, I was having significant issues from the heat. 97 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:24,740 So I was sleeping really bad. 98 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:27,340 My productivity was really bad. I worked from home. 99 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:32,980 And there was a day after doing one too many chores that I had some mild heat exhaustion symptoms. 100 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:35,000 just as they said, it's not got out of the blue, right? 101 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:41,980 Like, you don't see it coming, so I got air conditioning, I stopped being foolish, I got 102 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:46,080 air conditioning at the end of the summer, and lo and behold, my problems resolved. 103 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,800 So my story is not that interesting, but it's also extremely common, right? 104 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Like this is the same pattern that just about everybody experiences, get through hot, get AC, 105 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,240 and it's also not an issue because I didn't have any obstacles, like my health wasn't 106 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,120 bad. I could afford the air conditioner and my mother wasn't preventing me from purchasing it, 107 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,000 which is the crucial one. The temperatures I experienced are also very typical. 108 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:18,780 CBC did some investigation with a bunch of households across Canada, including Vancouver, 109 00:11:19,340 --> 00:11:24,000 and they found that temperatures were over 26 degrees, over 12 hours of the day, 110 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:29,260 in over half of the households. As you may know, 26 degrees is considered kind of the maximum 111 00:11:29,260 --> 00:11:31,880 safe temperature for indoor spaces. 112 00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:39,860 So here is a here's a graph based on some data that was collected 113 00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:47,240 by Acorn Canada was a residential at Tennessee Advocacy Group and they show exactly what you'd 114 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,200 expect air conditioning improves outcomes for tenants when it's hot, right? Like all those 115 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,880 heat related symptoms are significantly alleviated by air conditioning. Not even necessarily 116 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,080 effective recognition, just having your conditioning. 117 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,380 So what's preventing people from getting your conditioning? 118 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Also, as you would expect, affordability is the number one issue, but this is the 119 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,260 interesting part to me, as almost 30% of people were prevented from getting your conditioning 120 00:12:15,260 --> 00:12:17,060 by the landlords or their leases, right? 121 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Almost 30% of people are prevented from protecting their health by restrictions imposed by 122 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,880 their landlords or their leases, and in my opinion, it just doesn't make any sense. 123 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:34,140 So, we know that policy options are available, as Michelle mentioned, the U.S. Minister 124 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:41,160 imposed multiple policy options, banning your conditioner, bans from landlords in 2025, 125 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,180 and then keeping a maximum number of over-night temperature of 26 degrees. 126 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:52,120 And in my opinion, that is not a particularly honest requirement, right? 26 degrees overnight 127 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,400 in the summer is the bare minimum for a livable space. 128 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,880 And as many of you may also know, the reason why New West implemented those restrictions 129 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,380 or those policies is because the 2021 keystone over 30 people died in New Westminster. 130 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Over 60 people died in Burnaby. 131 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,260 And as Michelle mentioned, as you all know, there are policies in place, but some of these 132 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:19,860 are just boxes left unticked, and I think they need some focus. 133 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:33,090 And the 63 number I've learned is actually an undershoot, the corner service provides that number upwards over 70 and almost all of them happened indoors at home. 134 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:36,860 So I think the need is clear. 135 00:13:37,140 --> 00:13:39,820 I think renters in Burnaby need protection from heat. 136 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:42,660 And I think the policy options are available. 137 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:46,420 Other municipalities have done it. They're not particularly difficult things. 138 00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:50,360 And what I'm asking is that you do what needs to be done. 139 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:51,420 Thank you. 140 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,860 Thank you, Max, for your presentation. 141 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,180 We now ask a mission to return a petition table. 142 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,260 Any questions or comments from the committee? 143 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:07,720 We'll have the committee member, Mar. 144 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Thank you, thank you, Chair. 145 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,500 Thank you so much for the presenters for your information. 146 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:25,200 And it is very sad that over 600 people die in 2021 because of the hit-dong. 147 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:34,160 And as you mentioned, up to 70 people in Burnaby and these are our neighbors, these are our friends, these are family members. 148 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:43,680 I personally know somebody in the US who had lost her sister in an older apartment because of the hit-dong back in 2021. 149 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:55,860 I like to join your call and encourage us to be able to look into this because we know this is a human life that can be lost. 150 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,980 And nobody should have to die in the wrong way. 151 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Oh, because the temperature is go up. I do a question. Michelle, for you chair, is I love how you talk about, like, of course, we have to think about a policy change and look at the Westminster and that's one option. 152 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,220 What I love about your presentation is you also mentioned about that we have to do like with assessment. 153 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:33,400 And we have to do outreach to seniors to let them be aware that it's dangerous when it's hard 154 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:40,220 and often you don't even know you're having a history or can tell you passed out and that's too late if you're living on your own. 155 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:49,060 What about looking into potential, financial incentives like government grants and programs. 156 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:53,340 and if you had done research about that maybe it can make some recommendations. 157 00:15:56,390 --> 00:16:01,310 I've done a research on that, but I don't have a nurse here. Do you have any information on that? 158 00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:06,950 I've got my grants would be great. There was a bill before Parkland. 159 00:16:10,620 --> 00:16:12,080 There was a much deficient way to provide. 160 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:17,060 Very expensive to record and a 161 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,140 quite low degree of income. 162 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:30,260 Yeah, I think I remember, I don't remember if it was the Ministry of Social Development, 163 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:31,000 of poverty reduction. 164 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 I think it's a different one, it's, you know, sorry, 165 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,160 but for people on disability or income assistance 166 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,160 there might have been an indoor, 167 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,000 like a portable air conditioner program, 168 00:16:40,780 --> 00:16:44,740 just a $400 cost-covered program, 169 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,240 but yeah, something like that for, you know, 170 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,600 means qualified, means tested would be great. 171 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,340 We could do some researching at back if that's appropriate. 172 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,380 Thank you, I'm sure the city will look into that. 173 00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:59,000 Thank you. 174 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,360 The committee member for it? 175 00:17:07,090 --> 00:17:08,670 For this to the council. 176 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:11,670 Because it would be council having to do this. 177 00:17:11,810 --> 00:17:18,910 We can make suggestions and then the other thing is have you also reached out to the Bernabey Health Public Health Unit? 178 00:17:20,070 --> 00:17:28,030 Because there is a part of Fraser Health and the Public Health Unit would certainly be a helpful voice and provide further information. 179 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:30,370 I suspect so that's just a suggestion. 180 00:17:30,730 --> 00:17:30,810 Thank you. 181 00:17:31,130 --> 00:17:34,590 Thank you for your very cogent personal comments. 182 00:17:34,590 --> 00:17:35,390 Thank you very much. 183 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:38,270 And for the research, the presentations were very good. 184 00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:39,530 That's it for me. 185 00:17:39,730 --> 00:17:40,130 Thank you. 186 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:44,260 Thank you. 187 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,540 Thank you. 188 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,720 Thank you for the two presentations. 189 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:56,300 It's very thoughtful that you can come to this committee and present this case. 190 00:17:56,780 --> 00:18:03,460 I personally, I and my friend, Dave Parkman, naturally, pass away during that time. 191 00:18:03,460 --> 00:18:10,920 He was a volunteer for Scandinavian culture center, so there's a lot to do the center as well. 192 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:19,280 I believe in a house that's where he's up before the house, but when the hit comes during the night, 193 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,740 even in the night time, probably in the day time, he's off already. 194 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,000 But no one has to ignore about that, and he's actually in that kind of first situation. 195 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:35,860 So I believe some kind of more education in the CNA community. 196 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,740 Having that could also go a long way to eliminate that kind of tragedies. 197 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:51,280 I believe in mental units that could be allowed to install rental, 198 00:18:51,280 --> 00:19:03,180 I don't know why, is this a city, can a city start by some issues, is it legal to 199 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:11,480 require, we request, or require the cannon law to use the air conditions in the 200 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,160 UNICE. 201 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,540 Yeah, we can have our hotel manager to have some comments. 202 00:19:16,620 --> 00:19:32,580 Yes, through the chair, with respect to the last comment there is a legal, there are some multi-unit facilities that can have straddle by laws that would prevent folks from having air conditioning units. 203 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:37,480 I think the trends are definitely moving away from that though at this time. 204 00:19:38,340 --> 00:19:44,400 And it's getting more difficult for people to have those in place just given the rising temperatures. 205 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,540 Okay, so, let's see the host of Power to say, well, even though those, oh, you missed, 206 00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:55,600 you still should be allowed, I mean, at a continuous should be allowed. 207 00:19:56,380 --> 00:20:00,500 Through the chair, probably offer up a number of suggestions, 208 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,460 probably after we get all the 209 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:09,100 questions through here, I do have some thoughts on some ways forward here. 210 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:14,560 would address your question as well as a committee member 211 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,520 towards question there about staff involvement. 212 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,580 OK, thank you. 213 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,180 Thank you. 214 00:20:20,580 --> 00:20:21,780 Councilor Senegal. 215 00:20:23,620 --> 00:20:25,660 Thank you, Chair, through you. 216 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,580 You know, I also wanted to take a moment to say, 217 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:31,940 thank you to the delegation for coming 218 00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:36,340 for putting together a very clear report and picture 219 00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:38,360 about the situation in Bernabey. 220 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,320 and thank you, Max, for sharing your particular story. 221 00:20:42,420 --> 00:20:47,080 You know, I am sure that for most Bernabey residents, 222 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:51,720 if we hadn't been directly affected, certainly indirectly impacted, 223 00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:55,240 you know, I agree that this is an urgent important issue, 224 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,960 so I also appreciate our citizen representatives, 225 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,960 you know, also expressing their concern as well. 226 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:05,440 If it's all right with chair, I would be happy to hear first 227 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,860 from staff about the suggestions that you may see to move forward. Thank you. 228 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:19,460 Thank you. So now that's in a management. Yes, thank you. And those are all extremely 229 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:24,920 very good comments. And through the chair, we'd like to thank both presenters for putting 230 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:32,720 the time. And effort you have put it clearly into your presentations. They're very factual. You're 231 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,580 using some accurate data. 232 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,680 As you were talking about this, 233 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,260 you certainly brought me back to the heat dome at that time. 234 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,840 When I worked with the RCMP at that time, 235 00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:45,980 I know it had a significant impact on the community. 236 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,420 It's certainly a lot of folks, a lot of families 237 00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:50,880 lost loved ones. 238 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Had a significant impact on the RCMP officers, 239 00:21:54,980 --> 00:22:00,260 or partners would burn a be fire and the EHS service. 240 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:08,040 It was usually impactful and what we did find was that a lot of the folks here, you're 241 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:16,140 right on the mark where people that were older and age, they're all in apartments like 242 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:19,680 you described there, the one that you live in right now. 243 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,360 When I think about the way forward, I think we'll be appropriate right now as to refer this 244 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,460 to staff. 245 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:29,960 so that we can... 246 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Examiner, what they've done in New West. But we also need to do an environmental scan to take a look at. 247 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:45,520 And all the province does have some regulations as it relates to the residential tents you branch and the BC building code. 248 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:50,480 But those really speak to heat in apartments rather than cooling. 249 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:57,440 And so it's the opposite side of what we're examining here today. And we're that's most appropriately dealt with. 250 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:03,500 I'm not sure at the moment, but I think we need to do a really good in-depth analysis of that. 251 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:09,840 And is it okay if staff reach out to both of you to discuss this further? 252 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Definitely. 253 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,220 Okay. 254 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:12,800 Anything we can do to help? 255 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:13,920 Great. 256 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:23,240 With respect to restrictions on, you know, place by landlords. 257 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:27,160 You know, I think that's a key piece in here too. 258 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:34,520 I think that's a, it should be a fairly simple, and here I am talking about, by-laws being simple, 259 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,990 and that's the purpose of the case, but it makes a lot of common sense to look at 260 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,160 a bare minimum being able to deal with something like that. 261 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:52,040 But I'll let the staff that are most appropriately placed, do the examination on that, bring the information back. 262 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:57,440 And I don't think that we need to go to Council to get staff to start working on that. 263 00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:04,980 We can get that examination starting from here and I'll make that decision right now. 264 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,480 So we'll start the examination there. 265 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:08,720 Awesome. 266 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Great, yes. 267 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,100 Thank you. 268 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:16,470 Thank you all for your presentation. 269 00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:17,530 Thank you. 270 00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:18,850 Thank you all so much. 271 00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:19,610 Appreciate it. 272 00:24:19,610 --> 00:24:20,370 The 273 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:31,970 next time we have a delegation from Cracket Wilson, I'm recording the feeding of the wild life in Berlin. 274 00:24:33,870 --> 00:24:39,610 So Cracket pays to take a seat at the present table and proceed when you're ready. 275 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:44,410 Okay, now for something completely different. We're talking about rats. 276 00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:49,090 And Arby's of them. City is calling with them. 277 00:24:49,410 --> 00:24:52,770 About 10 years ago I read the City Council to bring this attention 278 00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:59,310 bring us to their attention, specifically around the metro town, Skytrain area, 279 00:25:03,050 --> 00:25:04,110 and I found 280 00:25:04,110 --> 00:25:09,290 out through that meeting that the city didn't have jurisdiction over that. It was TransLink, 281 00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:14,130 but the city got in touch with TransLink and they did put up signs which seemed to help in 282 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:21,610 to agree. There are still rats in the area. I saw two, a couple of days ago, in that area. People 283 00:25:21,610 --> 00:25:25,370 are still feeding them, though, and it might next to the signs believe it or not. 284 00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:30,170 The signs end, and yesterday I'm walking by there, and there's always used like a hundred 285 00:25:30,170 --> 00:25:35,010 pigeon cells, huddled around one area, and I know that somebody's fed them there. 286 00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:45,830 Specifically, now, the major problem is the north-east ferrisis corner of Derr'sford, 287 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:53,610 Now, at the risk of sounding racist, none of your personal people are of Indian authenticity. 288 00:25:55,190 --> 00:26:01,670 I don't know if this is a cultural thing, but it's the only people I see are in the Indian 289 00:26:01,670 --> 00:26:11,410 intensity. The seek temple adjacent to it regularly is throwing food out there like rice, noodles, 290 00:26:12,270 --> 00:26:16,690 flatbreads, different blanks, that sort of thing. Two days ago I saw a woman get out of 291 00:26:16,690 --> 00:26:20,650 a car, throwing all sorts of stuff out there like hamburger buns, that sort of stuff. 292 00:26:21,770 --> 00:26:27,670 And this is not like one through twice a day, this is throughout the day. It's like regular. 293 00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:34,210 I did speak with the BIOS officer who got in touch with me and they were going to do a bit of a stake out. 294 00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:36,710 I don't know if they, but the result was there. 295 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,510 But I know damn well that if somebody was there from six to the morning to eight it might. 296 00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:43,010 They probably catch at least half a dozen people. 297 00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:44,670 It's that prevalent. 298 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:48,050 And the thing with rats is there's an old expression. 299 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:50,870 Everywhere you see there's a hundred you don't see. 300 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:58,310 And I know that's true, because I remember walking along Kingsway and the next of the late Donald's 301 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:01,930 name, Hi Jade and I see this ratman into the flower bed there and there was a went along 302 00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:02,670 with a dog. 303 00:27:02,990 --> 00:27:07,690 You can hear all this rustling rustling, you hear like like it doesn't rat. 304 00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:14,350 Approximately two years ago, I was walking the dog in the morning, the sun was not up 305 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:16,090 yet, it was funny to get late. 306 00:27:16,090 --> 00:27:24,230 I'm getting about two minutes away from this area of Kings of Bechford and Kelly, and my neighbor, 307 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:31,970 who's an early advisor to my self, who's coming on her direction, and he's just, you're not going to believe what you're going to see up there. 308 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:43,950 Well, the scene was right out of Willard. You probably know what I'm talking about. It was a whole film from 1970s where a guy could control rats and he had a small army rat attacking people. 309 00:27:43,950 --> 00:27:47,770 There are dozens, dozens of rats running around. 310 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:49,610 You had to see it to believe it. 311 00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:52,090 I mean, any women, I just would have gone screaming, 312 00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:56,510 any other direction, it would have been just terrifying 313 00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:58,790 for other people. 314 00:28:00,310 --> 00:28:02,670 And basically, we feed the breed. 315 00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:04,830 That's part of the problem. 316 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:09,510 I think I don't know, because this is on the OPC-Electric 317 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:12,190 where we're right away, whether 318 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:17,290 the history is dictionary that are still translating, but sign is definitely needs to go up 319 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:21,810 and it should be in Punjabi as well as English. 320 00:28:23,950 --> 00:28:26,550 I think the city should be in touch with the 321 00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:31,710 seat temple telling them what they're doing is illegal. This is in contravention of the wildlife act. 322 00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:40,630 Let me check that out and advise the parish members that is illegal. I might say also mentioned 323 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:51,490 numerous times I've seen the Bonnie's taxi pull up, get out, out the bird's seed, and this is like, this is like this over 10, 10, 15 year period. 324 00:28:51,870 --> 00:29:00,550 But I see that regularly happening. I can go, I can go in the morning, see the seafood, walk to Metro town, come back in our later. 325 00:29:01,410 --> 00:29:04,670 It's more food is out. All the time. 326 00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:15,670 also the north east corner of Edmunds and Mary. There's a small lot there. It's just like 327 00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:23,170 one city lot, little park, same thing. People feed you rats there. I drove by there tonight 328 00:29:23,170 --> 00:29:27,510 and there was probably a hundred-pitched pigeon sitting in that little, little, one little lot. 329 00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:32,830 And we'll down with somebody, but throw it out for them. 330 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,140 Well, that's about yet. 331 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,660 I think signage needs to go up. 332 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:44,320 It would help. 333 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Certainly, the temple needs to be contact. 334 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,780 We need to understand what they're doing is illegal. 335 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:53,240 Thank you. 336 00:29:53,380 --> 00:29:53,860 Thank you. 337 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:55,180 So, I'm Mr. Rosen. 338 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:57,960 We have a hotel manager, but... 339 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,880 I don't know how to come here. 340 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:30,070 Yeah, thank you Mr. Wilson. I appreciate you bringing these concerns forward. I would say that the rat issue is not specific to burn or be you or to anyone neighbor. I think I live out in the valley and they're out there. They're all across this region right now. So I do take note that you've been in contact with staff and that you've been talking with the number of our officers about this issue. 341 00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:36,270 So I encourage you to continue to work with them on this and we'll look at the appropriate 342 00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:43,650 strategies to deal with education or with signage. 343 00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:48,170 I don't even, this afternoon you said to know what the hedger's dictionary word 344 00:30:48,170 --> 00:30:48,670 or not. 345 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:50,190 Yeah, it depends. 346 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:54,450 On the locations that you're talking about, because you're quite correct 347 00:30:54,450 --> 00:31:00,050 that, and sorry, through the chair, you're quite correct that part of the 348 00:31:00,050 --> 00:31:03,730 lens you're talking about or associated with Translinks. So we've got 349 00:31:03,730 --> 00:31:09,130 connections with Translinks to work with them. There's other areas within the 350 00:31:09,130 --> 00:31:15,350 city that belong to the province as a deal with the Ministry of Transportation 351 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:16,290 infrastructure. 352 00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:22,310 There's, you know, properties that belong to Fraser Health and 353 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:29,390 private properties, so it's all case-specific, so we'll continue to work with you and we'll 354 00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:36,830 look at the areas that you're talking about and see what's most appropriate to deal with them. 355 00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:41,930 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, I'm Mr. Wilson, for your 356 00:31:45,250 --> 00:31:45,930 The 357 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,500 next one is the LMSGDF repulse. 358 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920 There's a no-the repulse. 359 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,540 The next one is the information repulse. 360 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,060 The first one we have the verbal repulse from the Tot-Police. 361 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:06,900 anti-graph tea connoisseur providing our report, 362 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,640 grafting structures. 363 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,940 So Todd, if you're ready, I can take seat and begin. 364 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:20,490 Thank you, good evening. 365 00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:22,010 My name is Todd Pollitch. 366 00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:24,430 I'm the Antigraphy Coordinator for the City of Burnaby. 367 00:32:24,910 --> 00:32:27,430 I've been in this position since 2017. 368 00:32:28,910 --> 00:32:30,410 This evening we're going to talk just a little bit 369 00:32:30,410 --> 00:32:34,590 about the Antigraphy program as a more of an informational 370 00:32:34,590 --> 00:32:39,710 and kind of the insight to the graffiti that we're dealing with on a daily basis for the city. 371 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:51,320 The graffiti tends to be a very polarizing topic and subject where a lot of people advocate for graffiti, 372 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:57,680 thinking it's a form of expression and artistic and then the other side of the spectrum, 373 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,460 where a large number of people think that graffiti is vandalism and destruction of property. 374 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:07,120 Let me talk a little bit about that and kind of helping to define what that is and what that means. 375 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:16,220 And I just like to just identify that graffiti really is an interesting phenomenon and it is quite typically a barometer for society. 376 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:26,860 Then we do see the tens and patterns of graffiti increase decrease and change to do with whatever social scenarios are going on within our societies. 377 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:34,130 So, just a quick breakdown of what we see as far as graffiti, and a lot of this is misunderstood, 378 00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:39,230 so I'm going to kind of take it to kind of the base level of it, and I've got images up here 379 00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:43,550 that kind of break down what types of graffiti that we deal with. 380 00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:48,190 And so, the first one I'd like to identify, and this is, it's quite often in this conception, 381 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:50,150 is that graffiti is gang related. 382 00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:56,530 And so, you can see in our slide here that the percentage of gang related graffiti in the Lower Mainland 383 00:33:56,530 --> 00:33:58,510 and pretty much Canada is zero. 384 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:02,890 So there's a different kind of a scenario that exists 385 00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:04,350 between the United States and Canada, 386 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:05,290 as far as graffiti goes. 387 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:07,750 And our gangs typically do not use graffiti. 388 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,170 They're non-territorial and use other means. 389 00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:13,110 The United States gangs definitely do use graffiti. 390 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:16,510 So a lot of the misunderstandings that come from graffiti 391 00:34:16,510 --> 00:34:18,090 is that it is gangredate. 392 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:22,570 And to this part of the world, Canada, it is not. 393 00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:25,830 The other elements of graffiti that we deal with 394 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:33,350 are anarchistic graffiti, which is sheer destruction of property, social graffiti, and political 395 00:34:33,350 --> 00:34:39,450 graffiti. The number one form of graffiti that we deal with is typically known as through 396 00:34:39,450 --> 00:34:44,470 the industry called hip-hop graffiti. And hip-hop graffiti is the typical graffiti that we 397 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:50,230 see where it's people's names, or the monotrues being painted or scribed or used with 398 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:53,310 marker pens or spray paint on various properties. 399 00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:58,910 So this populates a large majority of the graffiti that we see in Burnaby. 400 00:35:01,940 --> 00:35:07,360 To just kind of step back in a lot of the misconceptions that people have about graffiti 401 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,300 and the argument that I receive quite often is about the artistic nature of graffiti 402 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:19,220 and the inclination for it to be expressive and a way for young people to go into 403 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:26,840 use as a creative outlet and the other side of the spectrum being vandalism. So I do 404 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,880 argue the fact that graffiti can be artistic and there are people who are very artistic 405 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,980 and very skilled and talented that do graffiti, but that is a very, very small, small minority. 406 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:41,800 I've got to list it here is the graffiti that we see and that we witness, that we experience and 407 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,380 encounter is 1% and that's being generous as far as artistic nature goes. The reasons for that are 408 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:49,440 completely different conversation. 409 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:51,720 I can go on for hours about it, I won't. 410 00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:54,000 A lot of it is to do with motivation. 411 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,720 And the type of graffiti that we deal with 412 00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,260 and the people that do it, 413 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,500 they have no interest in the visual aesthetics. 414 00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:03,500 They have no interest in creating art. 415 00:36:03,980 --> 00:36:05,280 They have no interest in creating something 416 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480 that's beneficial, positive to society. 417 00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:10,340 The hip-hop graffiti that we typically see 418 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:12,940 is basically it's based on the motivation 419 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:17,900 of self-promotion and forwarding someone status 420 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:22,580 in the graffiti sculpture, and what that means and what it comes down to is scribbling up your 421 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:28,840 name as many places as possible, as quickly as possible, and giving it as visible as possible 422 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,740 by as many people. So we end up seeing like the image on the right, where it's just people's names 423 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:40,480 with their molecules, basically throwing up quickly as possible, that they can gain notoriety 424 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,640 within the graffiti sculpture. That's the only motivation behind it. 425 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:47,590 The impact of graffiti 426 00:36:47,590 --> 00:36:50,410 is it's deep and it's quite interesting. 427 00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:53,850 The obvious is the economic cost to it. 428 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:55,990 And just a statistic I'd love to throw out there 429 00:36:55,990 --> 00:37:01,030 is that the United States and we can use them as a tracking capacity 430 00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:04,970 because it's a lot more in depth that the United States 431 00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:10,910 spends in the neighborhood of $12 to $15 billion a year 432 00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:12,670 on graffiti remediation alone. 433 00:37:13,130 --> 00:37:15,750 Removal of graffiti and taking down graffiti. 434 00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:22,230 Obviously, this might be put to other things and social projects and programs, but that's where it goes. 435 00:37:23,070 --> 00:37:29,970 The one of the things that really never comes to the surface and to the horizon when we talk about graffiti is the social impact. 436 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:58,760 And what we see, especially in my line of work, and increasingly we have got people reporting graffiti, which is a great thing, is the misunderstanding of graffiti, and a lot of times people will feel targeted. They'll feel like they're living in a neighborhood, this crime written, they'll feel like they're living in a neighborhood that's gang infiltrated. And it causes this discomfort and this feeling of retreat from community members and that obviously affects things like, 437 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,320 involvement in community activities, social capital, and those types of things. 438 00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:11,460 One of the things that does hardly ever that hardly ever comes up is the danger of 439 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:15,480 graffiti to the people who are involved in the graffiti subculture, not given to that 440 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,560 a little bit later on. 441 00:38:19,210 --> 00:38:23,630 The city of Bernabey has been very successful with our program, the Antigraphity Program. 442 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:29,970 It's been in place since 2008 and it was put in place because of a lot of graffiti running 443 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:37,750 rampant and it's been addressed and it's been very successful and the how I attribute that 444 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:42,970 is through our strategies of understanding graffiti. We understand and we've spent a lot of time 445 00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:46,850 understanding who the vandals are. We've spent a lot of time understanding what the motivations 446 00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:53,310 are. What drives the industry and the subculture but we've also spent a significant amount of time 447 00:38:53,310 --> 00:38:59,550 understanding our communities and really looking into the nuances as to how and why certain areas 448 00:38:59,550 --> 00:39:05,890 give hit with graffiti in certain areas, don't. And all of this has come together for us to really 449 00:39:05,890 --> 00:39:11,330 put together what a lot of people don't understand is that there is a high degree of prevention 450 00:39:11,330 --> 00:39:16,550 that's capable and possible in graffiti. And so what we've been doing is putting together our 451 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:20,310 programs, our systems for that purpose is to prevent graffiti and it has been very effective. 452 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:32,310 One of the biggest and most substantial significant elements that we have in our program is our 453 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:40,890 city in 2017, one of the most, the top priority for me was coming up for a way to really manage 454 00:39:40,890 --> 00:39:47,390 the graffiti portfolio. And so I contacted our GIS team and they were amazing in putting together 455 00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:54,130 our GIS we call it tag tractor. And this was originally composed and put together for the purpose of 456 00:39:55,670 --> 00:40:00,090 basically organizing becoming efficient with graffiti. We didn't want graffiti to go through the cracks, 457 00:40:00,090 --> 00:40:03,710 one of the way to make sure that graffiti was being dealt with and it could be delegated. 458 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:13,910 Our system at our program has been benefited by being extremely nimble and having the ability to 459 00:40:14,830 --> 00:40:21,070 evolve and to identify issues and I give you know full compliments to our senior management and 460 00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:26,130 to the manager that I have in being able to do this that our systems are always continuing 461 00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:33,450 evolving. So we went from a system of tracking graffiti and looking for efficiencies to now collecting data 462 00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:39,330 and looking at the intricacies and nuances of graffiti and being able to put together data collection 463 00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:43,470 that we can help to identify the people who are doing graffiti, why they're doing graffiti, 464 00:40:43,590 --> 00:40:46,030 where they're doing graffiti and these types of things. 465 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,140 Through this, excuse me, through this, 466 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,420 we've been able to go and break down graffiti into multitude of categories, 467 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:02,780 into the multitude of degrees and areas that we can focus on. 468 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:13,940 So what I'm showing up in the map right now in the screen right now is a sample of how we can break down and how we can understand the graffiti industry a little more thoroughly. 469 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:22,700 And this year is a sample of us running filters and being able to understand who our most prolific offenders are. 470 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:25,760 And this is a big deal, because as we are understanding 471 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:30,640 that graffiti is engaged by a large amount of young 472 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,440 and not so young people, that there are certain group 473 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,140 of people who are reconsidered to be pillars 474 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:37,680 of this graffiti industry. 475 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,360 And we call them a prolific offenders. 476 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,100 So one of our main objectives is to figure out 477 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:43,840 who they are and figure out their patterns. 478 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,940 In doing this, we've been able to really isolate 479 00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:51,520 a lot of the prolific graffiti vandals 480 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:59,060 through our work in predictive analysis and our work in understanding their patterns is going 481 00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:05,220 in preemptively taking away the reward. And what I mean by that is the graffiti industry and 482 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:11,400 the motivation behind graffiti is generally speaking a risk-need board system. So the vandals get 483 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,220 reward from having their work viewed by as many people as possible in us by going and understanding 484 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:24,800 and preemptively going out and doing inspections and taking down the graffiti very very quickly 485 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,360 we're removing their reward for this. So what we find in by doing this is that the graffiti 486 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,640 vandals particularly the prolific ones are finding a reward in the city of Bernabey. That's 487 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,180 we're getting a reduction of the prolific vandal activity and a reduction of the amount of people 488 00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:41,740 who are actually participating in graffiti. 489 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:48,180 Now talking about our understanding of vandals but we're 490 00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:50,700 also talking about the van, the understanding of our communities. 491 00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:56,220 And so when we're looking at this, one of the biggest challenges that we have in the graffiti 492 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,400 portfolio is reporting, 493 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,940 and understanding and becoming aware of graffiti when it becomes 494 00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:04,900 visible in the community. 495 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:08,740 And for a number of reasons, people don't report graffiti. 496 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:09,680 It's getting better. 497 00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:13,600 People are becoming more informed, and graffiti reporting systems are becoming better, and 498 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,800 people are reporting it more. 499 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:24,220 But without this, we rely heavily on our own proactive inspections of areas. 500 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,200 So we've identified areas within the city where we anticipate graffiti to be. 501 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,840 And we're proactively going and removing that. 502 00:43:35,570 --> 00:43:39,470 The other, I think, really great advantage that we've had with the city of Pernabee is the 503 00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:40,130 buy-in. 504 00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:45,850 And buy-in from top to bottom from senior management to all of our teams and the understanding 505 00:43:45,850 --> 00:43:52,170 of the importance of removing graffiti and its impact upon society and the reward for going and 506 00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:57,470 actually being active in this. So with this we've had a lot of engagement from our 507 00:43:58,370 --> 00:44:04,150 interdepartment groups and the cooperation has been tremendous and with this we were able to 508 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:08,610 obviously work with our customer service teams. We keep on evolving our reporting systems 509 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:12,510 and we're getting a lot more reporting, we're getting accurate reporting, we're getting reporting 510 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:16,530 that's helpful that we don't have to go on to spend time but we're getting the information 511 00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:23,390 that we need. Our GIS teams continually updating our tracking software to whatever kind of specific 512 00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:28,570 because that we need as we keep on pushing our program forward. Our painting department has been 513 00:44:28,570 --> 00:44:35,050 amazing that when we have graffiti and a report graffiti to them, the graffiti basically I can just 514 00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:39,610 write it off and say the graffiti has been removed. They are the utmost reliable department. They can 515 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,450 remove graffiti, if I report anything, 516 00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:44,050 they dropped everything and take it down within a few hours. 517 00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:46,750 Which I think is very exclusive to the city of Bernabey. 518 00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:49,430 And then of course, our engineering and our parks staff, 519 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:51,730 they become more and more informed of graffiti. 520 00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:53,870 They are great as far as reporting it, 521 00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:56,150 but also as far as recording information 522 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:57,390 and that kind of thing. 523 00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:59,970 One of the biggest things, especially in recent years. 524 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,920 This year has been the interaction and the participation of our CMP partners in this. And this has been crucial. 525 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:15,860 And I feel very, very blessed that they take graffiti seriously as they do. And this comes in mind with their investigation. 526 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:20,000 That they put forward and your availability and their 527 00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:26,320 providing resources and support for when we're dealing with, for example, prolific graffiti cases. 528 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,480 when we're dealing with graffiti cases that are sensitive, 529 00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:30,700 we do get a lot of support from the RCMP. 530 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400 As well as situations where there's active graffiti 531 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,620 where I can actually say within the last two months 532 00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:40,880 of witness myself, active graffiti taking place 533 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,520 and got RCMP response immediately, 534 00:45:42,820 --> 00:45:45,640 which resulted in arrests, which I don't think we could say 535 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,940 that about other departments or other municipalities. 536 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Working with my team and Dunbridge in particular, 537 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,360 One of the things that we've really really highlighted on this program is our post-incident response. 538 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:13,480 And what this means is that we're always looking at efficiencies and areas and ways that we can make things run smoother. 539 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,200 How can we get graffiti-reported easier, how we can get other divisions of the city involved? 540 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:41,340 But also I think that it's been really important because it's taken the graffiti element which is primarily visually aesthetics and putting it into a humanistic form and understanding that the people who are reporting graffiti and people who are being victimized by graffiti, they have an emotional connection to what they're seeing and what they're feeling and what they're experiencing in their community. 541 00:46:41,340 --> 00:47:09,940 So our team, they're all trauma informed trained, personnel, make a habit, make a, make it our routine to reach out, particularly in the case of sensitive graffiti, and people who report who are who are concerned, and we're relaying the information to them that even though they see what they consider to be offensive or threatening graffiti that it is not the case, but also relaying to them that we're taking it very seriously as a city of Burnaby does. 542 00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:29,380 Our efficiency in removal is very good, and we feel very, very proud of the fact that we can get back to the people who are complaining, reporting graffiti, the people who are being victimized graffiti by graffiti that their concerns are being taken seriously, and the graffiti is being removed very, very quickly. 543 00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:43,820 This is important, and this is important because it sends messaging and how we act and how we behave and the service that we provide, it does send messaging in a couple of different ways. 544 00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,300 It sends messaging to the Vandals in particular. 545 00:47:47,140 --> 00:47:55,380 And when we see other municipalities whose graffiti rates are escalating and getting higher, the Bernabes are getting lower. 546 00:47:55,380 --> 00:48:03,280 and we're seeing less vandal activity, and this is telling me that the vandals are understanding 547 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,140 that graffiti is not being tolerated, but the city of Bernabey, that we're taking an actor 548 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:12,840 for all, and we're removing their reward for doing graffiti, and we're acting very, very quickly and swiftly 549 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,740 and responsibly towards us. The other source of messaging, which I think is worth talking about 550 00:48:18,740 --> 00:48:25,360 is the messaging to the community. The community understanding that graffiti is being 551 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,960 can seriously buy the city of Bernabey that we're responding very quickly to their complaints 552 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:36,220 in the reports. But also it's sending a message of conditioning. And a lot of times we get 553 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:40,200 a situation where people think graffiti is going to be dealt. There's nothing we can do about it. 554 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,480 Why report it? Why be concerned about it? So what we're doing and what I think we're successfully 555 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,740 doing is we can see by the increased public participation is conditioning that this is not part 556 00:48:51,740 --> 00:48:56,900 society that we want to have and that graffiti is not something that should be tolerated and so people 557 00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:59,900 are becoming more involved as a result of this. 558 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:09,800 So as we look at our program, we're proud of a number 559 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:17,960 of things. We're proud of the number of graffiti cases that we deal with on a yearly basis, the rate 560 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:24,980 that we take them down and respond to them. We're very proud of the amount of declining political 561 00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:31,140 where at one time, when I first came to the city, there was 15 prolific vandals that were 562 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:36,260 actively involved in the city, which means they're doing graffiti on a daily basis within the city of Bernabey. 563 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,900 Now we're down to somewhere between two and three at any given time. 564 00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:48,260 Very proud as well, and I think this is a result of the interdepartmental cooperation is our communication 565 00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:53,780 and communicating with, again, to the people who are reporting and getting back with diligence 566 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:57,800 and with sensitivity and providing them the feedback that we're taking care of 567 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,220 graffiti and we understand our concerns about them. 568 00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:03,830 Most of this I've talked 569 00:50:03,830 --> 00:50:11,270 about. A couple of points I haven't. Graffiti is a gateway to the crime. The 570 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:15,230 people who do graffiti are not exclusive to graffiti. They steal the paints that 571 00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:20,950 they use. They're often involved with other crimes as far as theft, breaking 572 00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:25,090 and entering. Graffiti is a violent industry. There's violence that happens 573 00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:30,430 between different people, different members of the graffiti subculture, and graffiti is dangerous. 574 00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:35,850 And this is, I think, one of the biggest points I think is understated, and graffiti is very dangerous. 575 00:50:35,970 --> 00:50:41,250 And people get into graffiti, and even parents who see their kids getting into graffiti, and they think it's harmless. 576 00:50:41,390 --> 00:50:45,450 They even think it's cool. They even think it's a good thing. And they think it's just writing on a wall. 577 00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:50,990 Not understanding that the graffiti subculture is deep, and it's got a lot of messaging, and it's got a lot of influence. 578 00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:59,090 the influence of heavy substance abuse, the elements of heavy violence, and the elements 579 00:50:59,090 --> 00:51:05,490 of this ability or this necessity to go into prove oneself to up their anti-tap, their 580 00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:07,070 reputation within the graffiti subculture. 581 00:51:07,610 --> 00:51:13,690 So you can see the image here and it's called going to the heavens where people go and 582 00:51:13,690 --> 00:51:20,670 they want to be painting graffiti in the most audacious locations, taking high risk and people 583 00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:26,310 falling off of highway signs, people are falling off of overpasses, people being strangled 584 00:51:26,310 --> 00:51:31,070 because they're using ropes to repair on the sides of buildings, they're getting electrocuted 585 00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:36,070 on railway tracks and that's how to think. So the graffiti industry is very, very dangerous 586 00:51:36,070 --> 00:51:41,930 and it should be definitely promoted as one of those things to push young people away from doing 587 00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:43,610 and getting engaged in. 588 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,180 So I wrap this up to talk about the negativity that we have around graffiti 589 00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:54,460 and the messaging that it puts forward in our community. 590 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,560 But what we can look at is the other side of the spectrum as well. 591 00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:04,080 And we can look at this side of the spectrum saying that as negative as graffiti can be, 592 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,700 we have the ability to go into change and to make the communities more positive 593 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:11,820 through our mural programs, through public art, through programs 594 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:15,400 to go into promote young people to get involved in legal public arts. 595 00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:16,700 And that's the thing. 596 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:21,520 And then going and putting forward the stewards through the environment and stewards through our community, 597 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,220 that we care for our environment, we care for our communities, and to promote this with other people. 598 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,880 So this is the end of my presentation. 599 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,740 I'd like to offer to you a few of the questions you have. 600 00:52:35,420 --> 00:52:39,820 Thank you for your presentation. Now we have the committee member Mar. 601 00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:56,810 Thank you so much for your chair. I wanted to thank Mr. Pollidge for your presentation. I did a quick research on the number of graffiti's reported in Burnaby. 602 00:52:56,810 --> 00:53:02,530 And big shout-out to your work and your N.T. graffiti program. 603 00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:09,030 I've noticed in 2017 or every 2019 or 2016 there was 657 graffiti. 604 00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:12,150 And then down to 2019 with 170. 605 00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:15,390 So which is a huge and significant decrease. 606 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:20,210 And as we all know in 2020 it was the year of the COVID-19 pandemic. 607 00:53:20,410 --> 00:53:24,970 And there was a big jump of over 1,000 graffiti. 608 00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:34,390 So, I have a quick question about what the numbers are looking like from 2021 to 2025. 609 00:53:34,970 --> 00:53:36,070 That's my first question. 610 00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:40,210 If it's okay if I ask a number of questions, answer one by one. 611 00:53:40,490 --> 00:53:41,630 So, that's number one. 612 00:53:41,770 --> 00:53:46,090 The other question I have is, I believe the city by law says, 613 00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:50,990 If the graffiti is on a private property, say in my fence, 614 00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:53,130 which is on the fence in my house, 615 00:53:53,130 --> 00:54:10,310 I'm required to remove it within 14 days in my own cost because it's in my house, but if it's hate related like if it's motivated by hate or cocaine language, I'm required to remove it within 48 hours. 616 00:54:10,310 --> 00:54:17,190 So, it's a little question about the 48 hours, is it, what is your recommendation? 617 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:24,330 I'm a home owner, should I call the police first, if it's pay motivated, if it's 48 hours, 618 00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:29,130 is it including the weekend, if it happens on a Friday night, doesn't mean by Sunday, 619 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:30,130 it has to be removed. 620 00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:38,490 Through the chair, there's a very good questions, and so we like to deal with our program 621 00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:44,690 with a high degree of compassion and where we have these bylaws that regulate exactly how things 622 00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:50,670 are supposed to be. We take a humanistic approach to it and we do what we can for the 623 00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:51,690 community members. 624 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:57,130 The reporting should go through, especially particularly with hate graffiti, 625 00:54:57,170 --> 00:55:02,910 it should go through the RCMP 100%, but then also come through the city of Bernabes. We have an online 626 00:55:02,910 --> 00:55:06,890 We're reporting very important to do that. 627 00:55:07,330 --> 00:55:11,370 Now, when it comes to graffiti and I'll be honest with you, 628 00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:13,790 when it comes to hate-based graffiti, 629 00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:18,210 the objective is to take it down as soon as possible. 630 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:21,070 We do the best that we can to take the burden away 631 00:55:21,070 --> 00:55:25,210 from the property owner, which usually means someone 632 00:55:25,210 --> 00:55:28,310 from our community is painting it out for them. 633 00:55:33,650 --> 00:55:33,730 Thank you. 634 00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:37,130 So the other question was, do you have the figures? 635 00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:50,550 I don't have exact figures, but we're averaging around 1,000, 1,000 locations of graffiti being removed every year. 636 00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:55,110 Thank you. 637 00:55:55,590 --> 00:55:58,870 The next one has a very fun CSAC statistic number on. 638 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:01,170 Thank you through chair. 639 00:56:01,650 --> 00:56:04,790 I thought you're kind of a legend in the CSAC community. 640 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:08,630 So I'm the district chair for district one. 641 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:12,870 And you actually personally come to my house to remove graffiti before because I face a 642 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:16,530 confederation park elementary so it was facing the school and it was very inappropriate 643 00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:20,030 for children to see the type of graffiti so I personally made a report. 644 00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:24,170 Very easy to do. You came. You personally came. This is many years ago. 645 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:28,590 So you personally came many years ago and removed it yourself and we had a nice conversation. 646 00:56:29,590 --> 00:56:33,130 And so and in our district meetings, our monthly meetings, 647 00:56:33,130 --> 00:56:40,770 Your name comes up often because you're well respected and for the community members. 648 00:56:41,330 --> 00:56:46,070 And I do know, personally, that the RCMP take graffiti very seriously. 649 00:56:46,550 --> 00:56:49,950 It's a topic of conversation and affects the community. 650 00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:55,790 And we, as the community members in our council, we take it very seriously as well. 651 00:56:56,010 --> 00:56:57,210 So I just wanted to thank you, personally. 652 00:56:58,230 --> 00:57:01,430 I know the good work that your team is doing. 653 00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:06,450 I do actually have one question because something came up a couple of months ago when our 654 00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:12,070 committee about the acid etching graffiti that was starting to happen and along Hastings 655 00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:17,230 Street, the windows, there were some business owners that were getting acid etching and I know 656 00:57:17,230 --> 00:57:23,070 this is actually, I believe, as impossible to remove because it creates a ghosting effect. 657 00:57:23,290 --> 00:57:28,710 If it's cleaned, there's a ghost in the mirror, sorry, the glass and the glass has to be replaced. 658 00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:40,310 Obviously, that's an incredible cost to the business owner, and as we know business owners are dealing with an incredible amount of, you know, overhead and logistics and whatnot. 659 00:57:40,410 --> 00:57:47,750 So I just have a question about the specifically about the acidity, and I do know if anything specific is happening in your department of regarding that. 660 00:57:48,170 --> 00:57:58,690 Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Through the chair. That's, that was a very unfortunate situation, and acid etching is one of those forms of graffiti which is very, very important. 661 00:57:58,690 --> 00:58:03,750 difficult to deal with. Essentially it does burn holes in the glass. It burns 662 00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:07,750 lettering into the glass, which is very, very difficult to remove. There are ways of 663 00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:14,270 doing it, but generally speaking, the glass doesn't need to be replaced. As far as 664 00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:18,710 what we're doing in that circumstance, obviously trying to find a preparatory 665 00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:28,670 we would very closely with the RCMP on that, because it was one person who was 666 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:30,990 Thankfully, it doesn't happen very often. 667 00:58:31,530 --> 00:58:36,790 It would be incredibly damaging, damaging, and there's not a lot we can do to help remediate 668 00:58:36,790 --> 00:58:37,450 that. 669 00:58:41,010 --> 00:58:42,010 Thank you. 670 00:58:43,630 --> 00:58:45,860 Thank you. 671 00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:46,140 Thank you. 672 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,140 Through the chair. 673 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,620 Todd, excellent presentations. 674 00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:49,880 Thank you for your presentation. 675 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,060 I'll start with some comments first. 676 00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:55,860 With our department there we have a paper partnership with yourself. 677 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,740 I think it's what's clear, I think it came through your presentation and the questions 678 00:58:59,740 --> 00:59:00,100 here. 679 00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:01,880 This is not a victimless crime. 680 00:59:02,260 --> 00:59:05,160 there's an economic cost, there is a societal cost. 681 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,520 We see that there's tons of literature that shows 682 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,120 the importance we're moving it, 683 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,840 because if it's on there, the sense is, 684 00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:12,800 you don't care about your community, 685 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:15,100 so I will then do other crime and everything else. 686 00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:17,340 When we deal with the issue right away, 687 00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:19,800 people get someone's watching, someone's dealing with it, 688 00:59:19,820 --> 00:59:22,640 the community cares, and you see it, not progress. 689 00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:24,060 So I think that's really important. 690 00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:26,240 I represent them all to your comments, 691 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,820 you report it, every thing should be reported, 692 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,620 and we can actually track it. 693 00:59:29,740 --> 00:59:31,440 You know, no, we know that there's an issue going there, 694 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,660 So we can be to direct resources into those neighborhoods and so we'll prevent that from continuing 695 00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:36,540 escalating. 696 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,260 So that's important. 697 00:59:37,780 --> 00:59:43,460 And I'll leave one question, top of you, do you have representatives and other municipalities 698 00:59:43,460 --> 00:59:47,300 and other neighborhoods, municipalities that have your share of position and do you share intelligence? 699 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,580 The reason for that question is for my other jurisdictions I've worked in, where we 700 00:59:51,580 --> 00:59:55,540 see that is some of these graffiti artists, especially our prolific ones, have a certain 701 00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:56,020 signature. 702 00:59:56,020 --> 00:59:58,920 and when we're going to get the intelligence of certain people, 703 00:59:59,140 --> 00:59:59,980 we'll see their next to their... 704 01:00:00,740 --> 01:00:13,000 We're able to then track back and kind of hold them accountable and able to have been able to successfully prove that in court that this person is responsible for multiple jurisdictions and kind of hold them accountable and has been successful in court. 705 01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:14,920 So I got that question for you. 706 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:15,520 Yes. 707 01:00:15,980 --> 01:00:16,960 Through the chair, yes. 708 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:23,640 It, yep, very good point that these graffiti vandals are not localized. They do travel around a lot. 709 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:45,780 And there have been circumstances as well, I have reached out to counter parts and there's a counterpart of mine in the city of Vancouver and trying to share information with that as well as I believe that your members have had to conversation with EPD as well, trying to share their information and also have communications with our neighboring Co-Quitland as well. 710 01:00:46,540 --> 01:00:51,360 Over, you know, what we consider to be prolific vandals that may be crossing over boundaries and borders and a type of thing. 711 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,460 We try to foster and cultivate that as much as we can. 712 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,060 Thank you. 713 01:00:58,580 --> 01:00:59,740 Come with your number four. 714 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,760 You mentioned cost in the U.S. 715 01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:09,280 I'd like to know how much it costs for to be each year. 716 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,380 Approximately each year to deal with this. 717 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,240 It's a good question. 718 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,560 Sorry, it's through the chair. 719 01:01:16,180 --> 01:01:17,640 I don't have the exact numbers. 720 01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:22,980 From the time that we started tracking graffiti, which is 2018, 721 01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:32,820 team to current, I myself have been in contact with 8,000 locations of graffiti vandalism 722 01:01:32,820 --> 01:01:35,320 at a cost of, well, 723 01:01:37,570 --> 01:01:44,170 the industry cost is $2 million for that. With the work that we do 724 01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:47,830 is substantially less, I don't have the numbers for you exactly right now, but that would 725 01:01:47,830 --> 01:01:53,470 be if we were, Bernabey sits in a good location where we're handling, we're handling all 726 01:01:53,470 --> 01:02:00,290 graffiti work internally. So our painting departments and community work, myself, apart 727 01:02:00,290 --> 01:02:07,230 departments. We don't hire externally and the cost obviously to go external to other private 728 01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:12,110 companies to do the graffiti removal is substantially higher. So the $2 million I mentioned 729 01:02:12,110 --> 01:02:17,490 that would be if we were using an external group, our cost is substantially less. 730 01:02:17,870 --> 01:02:21,870 It would be possible to get just a rough estimate at some point. 731 01:02:21,870 --> 01:02:24,370 I don't have those numbers right now, but I can definitely like it up for you. 732 01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:24,870 Thank you. 733 01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:26,850 Thank you. 734 01:02:27,250 --> 01:02:28,310 I'm a community member. 735 01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:29,370 If you're finished? 736 01:02:30,430 --> 01:02:30,570 Yes. 737 01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:31,330 Thank you. 738 01:02:31,690 --> 01:02:32,690 Community members and do. 739 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:34,450 Thank you for the chair. 740 01:02:35,090 --> 01:02:36,230 Thanks talk for your presentation. 741 01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:39,210 Just a quick comment or even a question. 742 01:02:39,370 --> 01:02:44,090 One is the reporting actually in the Bernabey Connect app. 743 01:02:45,110 --> 01:02:47,190 I personally not a fan of filling up forms. 744 01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:50,690 But I'm just wondering if there is that piece just for increasing. 745 01:02:51,850 --> 01:02:54,990 reporting. The other piece and just interested is in the 746 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:57,490 beautification. I've seen those lovely utility 747 01:02:57,490 --> 01:03:01,030 reps. Just wondering if you have any anecdotal, like what is the community 748 01:03:01,030 --> 01:03:07,150 saying about those, have they actually deterred folks? And so I wanted to hear 749 01:03:07,150 --> 01:03:15,870 about that. Yeah, great. Yeah, sure the chair. Yeah, the I can talk about the 750 01:03:15,870 --> 01:03:22,630 So, the RAPS program in the neural program is one that we've established as part of our 751 01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:29,530 beautification initiatives. And so, these programs have evolved as well. And so, we've gone 752 01:03:29,530 --> 01:03:37,990 from the RAPS program particular, we've gone from having kind of the vegetative type of visuals, 753 01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:43,670 not type of thing to using some of the material from our RAPS programs, but then we've also started 754 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:49,030 using it more recently as part of our youth arts programs, which we've run as well, so we're 755 01:03:49,030 --> 01:03:53,210 basically taking photos of some of the work that we're doing with some of the youth that we 756 01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:56,970 work with and putting on some of the boxes and the responses that have been fantastic. 757 01:03:58,230 --> 01:04:02,430 People are like, and going to your point into your question about the graffiti deterrence 758 01:04:03,470 --> 01:04:11,950 twofold. Yes, I'd say those receive an encounter, probably about 90% less graffiti, and when 759 01:04:11,950 --> 01:04:15,390 And they are hit with graffiti, their removal is so much easier. 760 01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:19,350 Being on a vinyl surface, it's, they come off very, very quickly and easily. 761 01:04:20,850 --> 01:04:25,170 Then, dear, the question about our web form, our online reporting, it's been very effective. 762 01:04:25,950 --> 01:04:28,590 Maybe I'll, if I don't answer a question, you can ask it again. 763 01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:33,650 It's been very effective and it is a form-based and we do require certain information. 764 01:04:34,770 --> 01:04:40,170 And because of that, it makes our system and our process very streamlined where I can go out into 765 01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:45,430 community and be able to identify what the graffiti is. And also I think one of the things 766 01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:50,810 that I should mention is that our system in dealing with graffiti is we work on a 767 01:04:50,810 --> 01:04:56,730 tree-out system and we look at graffiti and depending upon the type of graffiti is where it is 768 01:04:57,410 --> 01:05:03,710 who the perpetrator is we prioritize things differently. So when we get a thorough intake form 769 01:05:04,550 --> 01:05:09,870 from our online reporting we're able to go into say this is a high category of graffiti whether it's 770 01:05:09,870 --> 01:05:20,430 One is socially sensitive, whether something that is from a prolific offender, where there's a high visibility area, we can prioritize based upon that. 771 01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:25,530 So the thinking means it might be to fill the forms as very helpful in the streamlines of our system and our program. 772 01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:31,020 Thank you. 773 01:05:31,540 --> 01:05:32,720 Councillor Lee. 774 01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:33,520 Thank you. 775 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,540 Mr. Chair. 776 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,380 Thank you for the very detailed report and presentation. 777 01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:51,320 For the prolific windows, how many exercises for the case of first-class children in court? 778 01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:56,880 Do they have any statistics on this number of years? 779 01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:58,860 Seven years? 780 01:05:59,140 --> 01:05:59,580 Seven years? 781 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,500 Sorry, your question again. 782 01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:13,420 Yes, that's full in court, okay, so through the chair, we don't have any convictions through the court system. 783 01:06:14,140 --> 01:06:21,380 We've recently made two arrests, as I mentioned earlier, that's very rare, that's extremely rare. 784 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:30,240 And the nature of graffiti vandalism is it happens very late at night and it happens so quickly that it's very difficult to catch a graffiti vandal. 785 01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:36,040 For you chair, if this one is a couple of cases successful, 786 01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:42,240 post-curely content, I think that could have some deterrent effect 787 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,100 to the frequent offenders. 788 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,000 And also, you know, caught a water, some kind of penalty, 789 01:06:52,420 --> 01:06:58,680 and that could also, I mean, something preventing them to do that again. 790 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:04,920 So, I don't know, it's just, I think the course is substantial, as you mentioned, is 791 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:13,500 cost of millions of dollars to our system, to people, to the department, to, you know, 792 01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:19,320 all the incorporation that the course will be, would be less. But I, I think, 793 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:27,860 yeah, just my, my thought that if this case could be established that could actually 794 01:07:27,860 --> 01:07:29,980 will reduce the number of open of open. 795 01:07:31,420 --> 01:07:34,320 Any comments? Yeah. 796 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:43,220 Yeah, I'll comment from my previous experience in some of the other municipalities I've worked in. 797 01:07:43,460 --> 01:07:54,380 Well, some of these cases do get sometimes to alternative measures. Sometimes we get caught, so the statistics are a little bit skewed there, because sometimes it depends on who the defender is. 798 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,980 And so you catch them, but then because it's they do community work. 799 01:07:57,980 --> 01:08:00,500 That's where we sort of adjust this program, everything else. 800 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:02,780 So sometimes though, so when you look at both the metrics, 801 01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:04,900 sometimes you do not as accurate there on those ones. 802 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,520 So you have to put that into context as well there. 803 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,960 And, but I do, you know, there that deterrent factor there, 804 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,260 that would be helpful there, you know, it's, 805 01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:16,080 it's those ones are difficult to prove sometimes, 806 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,300 and then you know, the challenging on the elements of the offense 807 01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:19,520 and catching them in the act. 808 01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:21,600 And so, last way, the intelligence, 809 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,460 and then try to kind of patrol those areas 810 01:08:24,460 --> 01:08:26,340 and see if we do catch them there. 811 01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:28,760 So that would be my experience on that. 812 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:35,020 Yeah, since this mentioned that there's some special signatures on some of those 813 01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:36,220 activities. 814 01:08:37,180 --> 01:08:42,260 And so if this is the same group of people, some type of organization, whoever, 815 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,680 so that could be easily identified. 816 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,440 Thank you. 817 01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:49,820 Thank you. 818 01:08:52,540 --> 01:08:55,200 I actually have a retired prosecutor. 819 01:08:56,380 --> 01:09:01,880 A tag, a signature wouldn't be enough to take to court because anybody can put a signature on. 820 01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:11,660 So the cases that I saw were police were just fortunately driving by and actually caught the person in the act. 821 01:09:12,540 --> 01:09:21,100 If they did not have any record or prior history then the first step is to take them through diversion and often they don't like that they have to do community work service. 822 01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:27,440 And often does the trick for a new offender, especially if they're younger and they're parents find out, and the police being involved. 823 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:37,220 So, but a signature is not enough. Unfortunately, exactly. That's called forgery. Don't do it. 824 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:39,560 Thank you. 825 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,360 Thank you. 826 01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:42,820 Thank you. Now we have a concert in the city, I go. 827 01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:47,100 I think you chair through you. I think you as well, Todd, for the presentation. 828 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,860 And I would like to just add my appreciation as well to you, your team, my staff, for their 829 01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:56,380 work, in this issue on this issue. 830 01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:01,580 I think that it's one of those things where, you know, like as a city, it might be something 831 01:10:01,580 --> 01:10:06,560 that many residents might not notice or take for granted, but I think it's important work 832 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,300 when we talk about how residents feel in general, right? 833 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:16,960 And if it wasn't being done, I think it would be felt, right, that it would impact it would 834 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,600 like a negative impact on one sense of safety and well-being so I think it's 835 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:27,500 incredibly important work that you all do and I'm very impressed by all of the data 836 01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:33,420 tracking analysis that goes into it and I also appreciate what you spoke of 837 01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:38,520 earlier about having like that human centered you know understanding about what's 838 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,240 involved with graffiti because I do recall working at one time at a business and 839 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:52,340 I mean, I work one morning and there was graffiti on the door and yeah, I remember feeling like very, you know, violated it and and unsafe. 840 01:10:53,100 --> 01:11:03,240 So it's so good to hear that our team and you bring that type of perspective, right, when we deal with residents who are reporting or who experienced it. 841 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:14,160 Yeah, and also good to hear about how, you know, this is something that, you know, Bernabey's doing well and, you know, I was left to hear it when there are things like that. 842 01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:17,080 So, thank you for highlighting that also. 843 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:17,680 Thank you. 844 01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:18,600 Thank you for the compliment. 845 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:20,280 Thank you. 846 01:11:20,660 --> 01:11:21,300 Thank you. 847 01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:23,840 I'll be very brief here. 848 01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:26,320 I just thank you very much for the presentation. 849 01:11:26,780 --> 01:11:30,520 I thought this would be impactful for this group to hear what you do. 850 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:39,280 For the committee, Todd is he's the guy, he runs this program on his own, although he does work with other partners. 851 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,460 He's at the center of all of it, so it runs very lean this program here. 852 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:56,960 But the impact, and I think we're lucky enough to have a retired crown council here to talk about the evidence required to push these matters through to charge approval. 853 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:03,540 And in the first stages that have to occur prior to that, so thank you, committee member Ford. 854 01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:13,080 But I think, which shouldn't be lost on anybody on the committee here is the impact on the people that are being victimized by the graffiti. 855 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:24,600 So often we find, and it's not all the time, but we define the racist, offensive graffiti that has an impact on school children or different groups. 856 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,200 and even if it's not in those categories and it's on your business or on your 857 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:36,000 residents it still has an impact so I think a quick response it shows the 858 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:42,160 city cares and it shows that we're all in here to support each other so you know 859 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:47,480 the successful program like this really comes from you know how much you put 860 01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:53,460 into this program and not just your knowledge of it but how much you care so 861 01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,400 Thank you and really appreciate presentation. 862 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:57,620 Thank you. 863 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,900 Thank you. Thank you for your presentations. 864 01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:03,200 Thank you very much. 865 01:13:04,220 --> 01:13:04,460 Thank you. 866 01:13:07,230 --> 01:13:12,170 Then the next we have a little report from 867 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:17,790 Corporal Haller Harris who was the MP for worried information. 868 01:13:18,190 --> 01:13:22,670 Who will be the MP Detachment FIFA Respons 2016. 869 01:13:22,670 --> 01:13:23,030 Thank 870 01:13:28,730 --> 01:13:41,170 you. I have brought with me my colleague, Louis Dawson from the City of Burnaby, who also works on with us in special events and our best committee. 871 01:13:42,230 --> 01:13:50,390 So I am on the emergency operations and social events planning committee are planning off section in Burnaby. 872 01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:55,270 I'm just going to give you a little highlight of what we do before we get into what our 873 01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:57,850 FIFA support look like during the FIFA tournament. 874 01:14:04,110 --> 01:14:08,550 So kind of what we do, some of the things that we're responsible for is operational readiness 875 01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:14,730 of members, business continuity, of the detachment, disaster response, evacuation plans. 876 01:14:15,230 --> 01:14:18,750 We develop operational plans for a special event to take place in Bernabey. 877 01:14:18,970 --> 01:14:23,950 We all know that Bernabey is a very vibrant community that celebrates a lot of cultural events 878 01:14:23,950 --> 01:14:25,730 and has great events like Canada Day, 879 01:14:25,970 --> 01:14:28,630 hats off day, we develop operational plans 880 01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:29,670 for those events. 881 01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:32,710 So we deploy officers to that to make sure 882 01:14:32,710 --> 01:14:34,890 that public safety is first and foremost. 883 01:14:36,130 --> 01:14:38,850 We also review many special event permits 884 01:14:38,850 --> 01:14:42,010 that come in for any potential approval. 885 01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:46,980 We monitor environmental protest groups. 886 01:14:47,020 --> 01:14:50,020 So we work with provincial units within BC 887 01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:52,720 that we monitor any kind of planned events 888 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,240 that might be impactful to burn away. 889 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:55,820 And if that were the case, 890 01:14:55,820 --> 01:14:59,980 We'd also develop a operational plan and response plan for police too. 891 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,620 Respond to that and to manage it. A new thing that we've started is we've taken over any kind of requests 892 01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:13,940 for over time for our officers to support filming within the burnt city of Barnaby. So kind 893 01:15:13,940 --> 01:15:19,200 of what that we get information from the city of Barnaby. Filming department and then we 894 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,680 create joining instructions so our officers know kind of what's being asked, what the approval was from 895 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,660 the city side and any, if there's any street closures, we ensure that public safety is foremost 896 01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:32,920 and a lot of some of the film that's been happening lately has had people in 897 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,300 police uniforms, so we're there also for public safety. We also support the 898 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:41,280 divisional emergency operations centers, so we're a de-occus what we call it 899 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,860 for any request for provincial emergency response, such as wildfires flooding 900 01:15:45,860 --> 01:15:52,380 that type of event. This year in 2026, we also supported and worked on 901 01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:22,360 So planning started way back, I started in on EOPS, I think it was the end of March, so this planning started before I came over to the section and we worked with the city of Raby's best community, actually a subcommittee was created, and we met weekly best for those who don't know meets by weekly, but because FIFA was fast approaching and we wanted to make sure we were on top of any weekday, 902 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:28,600 requests that might come in from businesses to extend their license or to host any kind of 903 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,260 FIFA events that we were on top of that and support public safety if that were the case. 904 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,980 So we also worked in partnership with our senior leadership team within the detachment, the 905 01:16:38,980 --> 01:16:45,400 RCMP score team, other local detachment, neighboring RCMP detachment to kind of see what their response 906 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:50,440 was, any kind of impactful events that they might be hosting that maybe there would be an overflow 907 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:56,060 into Burnaby, and obviously VPD, which is where most of the events took the actual events 908 01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:01,180 to place. And we are actually we're able to participate in some special training with VPD. 909 01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:06,740 And as I said, we were very closely with our best community partners. 910 01:17:07,860 --> 01:17:13,680 One of the things that we actually did in anticipation of FIFA was we went over to the Burnaby Board 911 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:20,420 of Trade, and we did presentations to businesses so we can talk to them on the city side and both 912 01:17:20,420 --> 01:17:25,840 are the same piece side of what we could see as a potential impact but they may anticipate so maybe 913 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,640 it be an impact to traffic, your employees may have a hard time getting to work depending on where 914 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:34,560 they are. There could be an impact on just having more people in the area like tourism, 915 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,200 people maybe wanting to leave Vancouver. There's no game day kind of what that might look like for 916 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:45,780 Burnaby. When we also discussed, it is an opportunity a world event in a world stage such as FIFA, 917 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:53,280 is an opportunity for public interest groups to now come in to showcase their costs. 918 01:17:53,400 --> 01:18:00,200 So we also worked with the businesses to talk about any kind of how we could mitigate 919 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,700 some of that. 920 01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:08,800 Over the tournament, Timeline, our goal was to support first and foremost frontline operations 921 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:15,460 within the city, and to ensure our frontline officers had enough support, and also to address 922 01:18:15,460 --> 01:18:18,260 any overflow on non-game days or even game days 923 01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:19,820 because we're close to fan fest 924 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,940 to support that total tourism overflow. 925 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,740 Any potential impact on the public safety, 926 01:18:26,060 --> 01:18:28,960 let me overflow into Bernabey and to sure that also, 927 01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:30,800 because there were still community events 928 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,900 happening within the city, 929 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,860 that we were able to deploy enough officers 930 01:18:33,860 --> 01:18:35,360 to support those events 931 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,820 and so they could run in a safe manner. 932 01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:42,020 So our first was to support frontline 933 01:18:42,020 --> 01:18:48,640 And many, many months in planning to have 934 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,240 been sure that frontline was supported. 935 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,760 So supported by some of our specialized units such 936 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,540 as BGAD, our KSO team, our post team, just to 937 01:18:56,540 --> 01:18:58,460 name a few other teams, those are the same. 938 01:18:58,660 --> 01:19:03,120 Our youth section provided some officers from those teams 939 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,060 to frontline, so that might mean frontline response, 940 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,200 responding to files, but also they supported our 941 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,720 investigative services team. 942 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,080 So there will be more like some detachments 943 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,060 call it like a GI, so more serious kind of support. 944 01:19:16,980 --> 01:19:20,500 And what that did was it allowed our more senior officers 945 01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:22,520 who have been working in these specialized units 946 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,860 to come and mentor some of the junior officers 947 01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:29,380 who were still in front line, and also to boost the numbers 948 01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:31,960 that were on the road at that time. 949 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,940 And just great to share that information. 950 01:19:35,260 --> 01:19:36,640 That's a great mentorship opportunity. 951 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:45,560 And we also received support from FIFA, so over the duration of the tournament, we would receive, 952 01:19:45,580 --> 01:19:52,300 so we, sorry, we supported FIFA by providing over the tournament timeline, 26 of our officers, 953 01:19:53,380 --> 01:20:06,600 two various different tasks and duties, which, on average, worked out to be between five to six, 954 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:13,780 language training, who are our tactical members, who are in Vancouver, some of them were also 955 01:20:13,780 --> 01:20:19,240 just supporting more like fine line policing traffic control within the city of Burnie, 956 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:26,760 I'm sorry, the city of Vancouver. And so that's what we did to support. So we gave 26 officers 957 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:33,980 over that duration. And then what we got in return was on a probably a pretty regular basis, 958 01:20:33,980 --> 01:20:44,200 The most we ever saw was about 26 officers who came and then there was some extras who kind of just saw my signs and thought they would just come and see what going to be all about. 959 01:20:45,260 --> 01:20:51,100 So we had about 26 officers a day. Their shifts would be from about noon until midnight. 960 01:20:52,040 --> 01:21:00,760 And they worked on a six day rotation and they would come in and burn me and they would we would deploy them. I would meet them and I would deploy them to different. 961 01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:03,840 events that were taking place. 962 01:21:04,420 --> 01:21:08,400 So we gave 24 and we received on average about 26. 963 01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:12,520 I think the least we ever got was one day we got eight. 964 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,720 Just because sometimes what would happen is those officers, 965 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,300 if there was a candidate game day specifically, 966 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,200 or there was a big game day in Vancouver, 967 01:21:21,740 --> 01:21:25,140 they would be used as additional resources in Vancouver, 968 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,940 so sometimes we didn't see those numbers. 969 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,340 So kind of how we managed that, 970 01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:40,460 is one of our two. This is the first team that we got. One of the two teams, so they would 971 01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:45,340 break up into two teams. They would come in their own, please cars or non-mart cars and sometimes 972 01:21:45,340 --> 01:21:50,120 there'd be four to six in a vehicle and they would be in a van and we would deploy them. So when 973 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:56,360 they would come to the detachment, I would, I was their deployment coordinator and I would 974 01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:04,320 provide them with an oversight of like some pretty important information if you're going to be 975 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:10,380 never been to Vancouver, BC, let alone Burnaby, and a lot of them have worked in only small 976 01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:14,940 detachments, so Burnaby being the largest detachments that it is, a lot of people had 977 01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:20,580 not experienced that, so it was very interesting for them to see. And so they would come and 978 01:22:20,580 --> 01:22:26,740 we would provide them with information about where to go and what kind of deployments. I also 979 01:22:26,740 --> 01:22:29,980 I've used a great tool that low assist team had to play. 980 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:38,180 I developed, which was all the events lists. So, most of the events lists would include some of the watch parties, 981 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:46,460 some of the establishments within Berneby, who maybe had their patio expanded, and there's going to be more people, 982 01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:50,700 or they're just going to be showing the event that they came and supported Canada Day. 983 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:59,960 So, we had additional resources on Canada Day, the Panoi Festival, things like that, which was great because they got to also just support our 984 01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:02,220 officers who were already working those events. 985 01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:10,120 The good thing to you is that this is a really great recruitment opportunity for Burnaby. 986 01:23:10,620 --> 01:23:15,220 A lot of these officers, again, they may be this is their first, they were only coming from 987 01:23:15,220 --> 01:23:15,940 their first attachment. 988 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:21,320 They had minimal experience working outside of the province that they were in, and they 989 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,200 were a lot of them had actually expressed interesting coming here. 990 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,280 So it was great for our officers to engage and kind of share what it's like to police 991 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,280 in the big city and they kind of opened their eyes and they're like, hey, this is kind 992 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:32,560 of cool. 993 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:33,900 I actually want to come here. 994 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:41,420 So it was very rewarding for us to see the fruits of that labor and be able to kind 995 01:23:41,420 --> 01:23:44,080 of showcase what a great city, what it is. 996 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:51,700 So yes, we used the sheet that Lois gave us with all the events on it. 997 01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:54,420 Some of the things that they supported was one of the things. 998 01:23:54,420 --> 01:24:01,420 So Bartwood had a great viewing plaza, it was amazing, it had a great energy, what we did 999 01:24:01,420 --> 01:24:05,740 was we had our officers go for example the first day and we're like just kind of just 1000 01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:09,460 take a look at the crowd, how's the flow because it's important, there are still users 1001 01:24:09,460 --> 01:24:13,620 of these facilities and we want to make sure that not only are the people going to watch 1002 01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:24,180 the games, filling safe and knowing that everything is okay but it's also the users of these 1003 01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:27,980 train making sure the egress is available. So we wanted to that throw out and 1004 01:24:27,980 --> 01:24:32,120 working with Louis's team, we were able to say, okay well this particular game was quite large 1005 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:38,180 and maybe the crowd was too much for what was there to manage the security team. We were able to 1006 01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:45,720 provide that feedback and within the next day, they were able to respond to that and prepare a 1007 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:51,380 more thorough plan for like game days that they knew would have more viewing. So obviously the 1008 01:24:51,380 --> 01:24:56,180 at games were a big one, but we were able to bring that information back and so working in partnership 1009 01:24:56,180 --> 01:25:02,660 was really important during that time frame. We also insured, so I kind of mentioned it earlier, 1010 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:10,460 that one of the things we monitor is any kind of, you know, protest activity or anything like that. 1011 01:25:10,460 --> 01:25:17,340 So, another part of what our FIFA officers did was just drive around and their unmarked 1012 01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:22,360 art cars, whatever they had, and to our critical infrastructures, because that would have 1013 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:27,320 been, we just wanted to ensure that we were more than sharing any kind of things that 1014 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,580 may pop up, that we weren't aware of. We do monitor, but things, if you're not looking, 1015 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,880 you don't see it. So we just wanted to have more product of patrols in that regard, as well 1016 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:46,640 as to other city areas that we deploy them to. So Central Park, we'd like to use some 1017 01:25:48,200 --> 01:26:02,820 Some of them worked within the province, so they were actually from British Columbia, so they could be in a car and have access to our computer systems, other provinces don't use the same, so they were deployed specifically to events. 1018 01:26:03,780 --> 01:26:10,400 So, the officers who were from BC were used also to support frontline and they were paired up with frontline officers, 1019 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,000 and they got to respond to files. 1020 01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:15,740 They were part of scene security. 1021 01:26:16,140 --> 01:26:21,180 So, what that data is that allowed our officers to do the investigations and not get tied out in some of the scene security. 1022 01:26:21,740 --> 01:26:23,120 So, it was great traffic. 1023 01:26:23,220 --> 01:26:26,660 They also did some traffic while they were here. 1024 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,100 And they also participated in a lot of foot patrols and when they were doing their foot patrols 1025 01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:37,840 a lot of the feedback that I would get the next day or even I would get a text message later 1026 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:43,160 at that night, was how much positive feedback they got from the community and just seeing, 1027 01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:47,060 you know, they weren't there for anything other than just to be a presence, they were, 1028 01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:51,780 you know, they were part of the energy of what FIFA was, which is a great opportunity for 1029 01:26:51,780 --> 01:26:56,700 to be to showcase what they have to offer, so it was very, they were much, they were really 1030 01:26:56,700 --> 01:27:00,320 receive by the public and have a very positive impact. 1031 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,280 Yeah, as well as our community partners, our community partners also said, you know, they really appreciate it. 1032 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:14,920 You know, the extra patrols or the food patrols in certain areas that would help them address any concerns that might come up. 1033 01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:24,180 And then I will kind of end my part of the presentation and if you will need to answer any questions you may have. 1034 01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:28,000 Thank you. 1035 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:28,460 I see. 1036 01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:29,700 There's no any questions. 1037 01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:30,440 Come in. 1038 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,000 So thank you for your presentations. 1039 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,680 Thank you. 1040 01:27:37,090 --> 01:27:37,730 The other comments? 1041 01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:38,150 Yeah. 1042 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:38,710 To the chair. 1043 01:27:38,970 --> 01:27:40,170 Laura, I just want to thank you. 1044 01:27:40,270 --> 01:27:41,050 The most fair presentation. 1045 01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:45,950 What I want to highlight here for the committee as well is this was a perfect, you know, 1046 01:27:45,970 --> 01:27:46,230 FIFA. 1047 01:27:46,510 --> 01:27:49,210 There was a lot of, uh, uh, nervousness. 1048 01:27:49,410 --> 01:27:50,370 A lot of concern. 1049 01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:52,270 The entire, it's a world event. 1050 01:27:52,690 --> 01:27:55,490 And nothing, uh, this magnitude has happened in this country. 1051 01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:57,670 And they, uh, share them on a planning, you know, 1052 01:27:57,670 --> 01:28:02,770 We take the bigger planning, which is the Yers MP, the Vancouver Police Department, and all the 1053 01:28:02,770 --> 01:28:04,470 police agencies did a fantastic job. 1054 01:28:04,910 --> 01:28:09,290 But here in Burtby, one of the things that we had to do was to look at our city to make 1055 01:28:09,290 --> 01:28:10,350 sure our city was safe. 1056 01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:15,930 And with the best as a new creation, the partnership, the best the Yers MP and the Bailad 1057 01:28:15,930 --> 01:28:20,030 Department, and that planning, you know, we're the template going forward on these events. 1058 01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:24,170 And it's not, for all public safety standpoint, it's not just a police response, that whole 1059 01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:30,870 realistic approach. I think we've done a lot of really good templates for that moving forward and 1060 01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:35,990 what that looks like. Our goal here was to ensure that these are citizens in this city felt 1061 01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:40,890 nothing had changed, right, that they can continue normal. And I think our markets success, 1062 01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:45,630 what I think success was when I was in engagement, when I talked to our citizens, they felt that 1063 01:28:45,630 --> 01:28:50,410 way. They felt that they can go to our community events and they felt safe. And it was the number 1064 01:28:50,410 --> 01:28:55,550 people, we have them outside of our country, that we are continuing our city that I saw at 1065 01:28:55,550 --> 01:29:01,010 our events, commenting about how safe they felt and how the city is running, and you 1066 01:29:01,010 --> 01:29:05,250 know from our members I came to lowest point there, we had officers from all over the country 1067 01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:09,050 here, and they were the comments they made were just know how the members treated them, 1068 01:29:09,170 --> 01:29:13,810 but how they felt the clean the city was, what the city provided them, and how they would 1069 01:29:13,810 --> 01:29:17,550 ask the reason they wanted to like, we're interested in coming here. So there's a couple of comments 1070 01:29:17,550 --> 01:29:21,690 want to make on that there. And you know, then the other comment about the officers. I just want 1071 01:29:21,690 --> 01:29:26,390 clarification, it might be a question that's raised. Why do you give up 24 and get 26 back? What was 1072 01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:31,130 the logic back there? So that was from a strategic standpoint. So our some of our officers are 1073 01:29:31,130 --> 01:29:35,690 especially trained, whether it's in tactical training, Laura mentioned in the language skills or 1074 01:29:35,690 --> 01:29:41,310 different skillsets. So the, from the police response is they needed that skill set for various jobs. 1075 01:29:41,470 --> 01:29:46,130 And so it changed the understanding of public safety standpoint. We got officers that were frontline 1076 01:29:46,130 --> 01:29:51,190 officers that were specialised in that field, we were able to deploy them, and then we 1077 01:29:51,190 --> 01:29:55,830 augmented them with redirecting some of our internal resources so we had a search capacity. 1078 01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:59,970 And just to highlight, you saw the screen where Laura was the introduction of... 1079 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,020 The information sessions. That was to ensure that any officer that came to our city understood our city. 1080 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:10,280 I understood what our community was about. And so we did spend a lot of time about our session before they would hit the road. 1081 01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:18,340 To ensure that we understand what our expectations were of them as officers in our community, in our critical infrastructure, in somewhere, and lower our key points. 1082 01:30:18,580 --> 01:30:25,380 There's so from a public safety standpoint. So I just wanted to highlight that as part of that presentation as well. So thank you. 1083 01:30:25,380 --> 01:30:28,140 Thank you, Councilor Senegal. 1084 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:29,920 Thank you chair to you. 1085 01:30:30,340 --> 01:30:33,540 Yeah, I also laid express my appreciation for the work. 1086 01:30:33,820 --> 01:30:37,180 I was at some of these community festivals over the summer. 1087 01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:43,180 Some, you know, that had like the community festival that had a FIFA watch party as well as the one at Brentwood. 1088 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,000 And yeah, I know folks also expressed to me like how they felt safe. 1089 01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:49,760 And I did, you know, see a notable presence. 1090 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,400 You know, of our RCMP officers, you know, at those events. 1091 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,200 And so yeah, I thought that was great. 1092 01:30:57,220 --> 01:30:59,100 And yeah, again, I'm reflecting back 1093 01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:01,640 like a few months before FIFA sitting here at the Council 1094 01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:02,120 Chambers. 1095 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,080 And I do recall, there was a bit of a sense of trepidation 1096 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,460 because we weren't sure quite what to expect. 1097 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,840 So yeah, I think it's fantastic 1098 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,600 because I mentioned earlier, it seemed like a fairly fun, 1099 01:31:13,620 --> 01:31:15,100 but uneventful summer. 1100 01:31:15,620 --> 01:31:16,660 So that was great. 1101 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:17,400 Thank you so much. 1102 01:31:18,260 --> 01:31:18,780 Thank you. 1103 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:19,500 Thank you. 1104 01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:20,860 Excuse me. 1105 01:31:22,180 --> 01:31:25,040 Thank you. Thanks very much for the presentation for her status. 1106 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,080 Just a quick comment. We've been involved in many events with 1107 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,860 Your organization and we appreciate the professionalism 1108 01:31:32,860 --> 01:31:37,200 The RCMP do have at these events and we value our partnership. 1109 01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:40,600 We look forward to working at the future. Thank you. 1110 01:31:41,260 --> 01:31:41,840 Thank you. Thank you. 1111 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,720 Thank you. 1112 01:31:48,340 --> 01:31:51,180 So next, why is RCMP a status report? 1113 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,640 So, choose the point on this. 1114 01:31:53,660 --> 01:31:57,500 Some of it are report providing the RCMP status update. 1115 01:31:58,420 --> 01:32:03,240 I'm placing operations covering a report to July 226 1116 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:10,960 and in a performance plan, quarterly report covering a report to 226. 1117 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:16,240 So, to choose the point on it, I'd like to add ACs at this time. 1118 01:32:19,210 --> 01:32:20,070 Yes, through the chair. 1119 01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:29,190 As mentioned, this report covers the period from April to July of 2026, and as is highlighted 1120 01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:34,570 by the previous presentation, two of those months where we'll break the involving fee 1121 01:32:34,570 --> 01:32:35,490 that the same time. 1122 01:32:36,010 --> 01:32:40,250 So, I just want to comment down, I'll start first on just highlighting some kind of statistics 1123 01:32:40,750 --> 01:32:45,150 and then just cover off some of the activities from the units of our detachment. 1124 01:32:45,150 --> 01:32:52,910 Starting with our crime stats, this was comparing a year to date from 2026 compared to the same period in 2025. 1125 01:32:54,230 --> 01:32:57,150 Residential break-and-enter showed an increase of 6%. 1126 01:32:58,130 --> 01:33:01,930 In particular, we saw in District 1 and 2, sure, a dramatic spike. 1127 01:33:03,190 --> 01:33:03,970 It's one of highlight here. 1128 01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:07,470 So in District 1, we saw from 11 files to 21 files. 1129 01:33:08,230 --> 01:33:10,270 And then in District 2, 9027. 1130 01:33:10,270 --> 01:33:18,290 I want to present context to this, our obligations from our reporting of crime statistics from 1131 01:33:18,290 --> 01:33:25,830 the national perspective and how files are scored. In this case, the two districts we had a spike 1132 01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:31,690 in buildings that were broken into where their mailboxes were broken into and each of those mailboxes 1133 01:33:31,690 --> 01:33:36,870 because their separate victims are scored as a separate break-in enter. So that's the kind of context 1134 01:33:36,870 --> 01:33:41,790 there. So we saw some of that rise there. I don't want to discount that because each of those 1135 01:33:41,790 --> 01:33:47,210 mailboxes, there's a victim associated to it. But to an important context, there wasn't 21 1136 01:33:47,210 --> 01:33:52,790 suffered residences that were caused by some concern, there were 27 residences. 1137 01:33:54,170 --> 01:33:58,990 Shifting over to a break in enter our business, we saw an increase by 19% in Burnaby. 1138 01:33:58,990 --> 01:34:09,150 of note there we saw districts 2, we saw 50% increase from 48 files to 72 files in the district 4, 1139 01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:13,990 a 65% increase from 79 to 135 files. 1140 01:34:15,150 --> 01:34:21,910 We did see a decrease of 47% from 68 files to 36 files in district 1. 1141 01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:33,410 Part of that, I'm sorry, increase of 5%, we went from 733,000, 2025, 2073 files during this period in 2026. 1142 01:34:36,510 --> 01:34:40,090 Part of that decreased by 3%. 1143 01:34:40,090 --> 01:34:50,570 We went from 144 files to 144 files, and a warberry decreased by 31% from 91 files to 63 files. 1144 01:34:51,250 --> 01:34:57,690 And there is a decrease in all the districts except for district one, which saw a slight increase from nine falls to 13 files. 1145 01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:05,910 Shifting over to you as some of the work from our units, from a traffic section, our traffic officers continue their enforcement efforts, 1146 01:35:06,230 --> 01:35:10,450 and conducting various initiatives to support the animal performance plan. 1147 01:35:10,450 --> 01:35:16,690 The officers focus their efforts on enforcing speed and excess speed during the month of May, 1148 01:35:17,190 --> 01:35:24,050 as this initiative was in line with the British Columbia Association of Chiefs of Police directive. 1149 01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:32,570 And so, and speeding enforcement, 133 enforcement operations were done, including several operations in playground and school zones. 1150 01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:39,230 66 operations were done during May, which resulted in 170 violation tickets for excesses speeding alone. 1151 01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:46,590 In total, our officers issued over 500 biolation tickets for speeding and excesses speeding during this reporting period. 1152 01:35:48,770 --> 01:35:53,030 In during this period, we skipped off our E-Sketter education campaign. 1153 01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:58,910 So our traffic officers conducted several educational sessions on E-Sketters and E-Bike by-laws. 1154 01:35:59,830 --> 01:36:04,950 Also, the officers conducted some important operations during which the issued several written warnings for writers 1155 01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:07,790 for writing on sidewalk, writing on crosswalk, 1156 01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:09,430 you know, helmet, and other offenses. 1157 01:36:10,150 --> 01:36:12,690 This was strategically done to start an education campaign, 1158 01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:15,750 which then in this quarter, which I'll report on next period, 1159 01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:18,930 resulted in an enforcement campaign. 1160 01:36:19,550 --> 01:36:22,030 So we did a measured approach in our community. 1161 01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:25,630 From a commercial vehicle enforcement, 1162 01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:28,470 the number of commercial vehicle enforcement operations 1163 01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:32,510 were lower than usual as are certified officer 1164 01:36:32,510 --> 01:36:38,250 was a way of an extended period on parental leave and he's now returned to duty so we should see 1165 01:36:38,630 --> 01:36:44,890 that back in operation it is quarter coming up here. For operations word have been 1166 01:36:44,890 --> 01:36:51,670 were conducted including two multi agency joint operations. A hundred vehicles were inspecting 1167 01:36:51,670 --> 01:36:57,130 resulting in 48 trucks being placed out of service and a hundred 45 violation tickets being issued to 1168 01:36:58,550 --> 01:37:01,690 Our traffic section also conducted subriding enforcement. 1169 01:37:02,410 --> 01:37:05,130 Nine operations were conducted from April to July. 1170 01:37:05,850 --> 01:37:07,870 Thirty-nine drivers were found to be impaired, 1171 01:37:08,190 --> 01:37:11,370 which were grabbing provisions when notices to drivers. 1172 01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:14,970 We did also do some distracted driving enforcement, 1173 01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:18,130 where the total of 24 enforcement operations were conducted, 1174 01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:21,310 and where 160 violation tickets were issued, 1175 01:37:21,310 --> 01:37:23,730 mostly for cell phone use while driving. 1176 01:37:26,590 --> 01:37:29,810 I'm going to be getting first in team, continue with the proactive project. 1177 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,760 Rejoice and investee of operations. 1178 01:37:33,660 --> 01:37:40,580 June is period. A number of vehicle staffs were conducted, resulting in seizure of illegal drugs, firearms, 1179 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,740 immoral crime, related items. To highlight this, in one of the cases that occurred in April, 1180 01:37:46,260 --> 01:37:50,060 are being investigated, investigators, executed multiple search warrant, had various 1181 01:37:50,060 --> 01:37:56,940 locations resulting in the seizure of five firearms, close to 30,000 dollars in cash, radio 1182 01:37:56,940 --> 01:38:05,560 jammers, 170 liters of precursor drugs, 200 liters of finished G-H-B, which is also 1183 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,520 commonly referred to as a D-ray drug. 1184 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:14,120 And over 4,000 kilograms of precursor for NDMA, as well as extensive amounts of all of 1185 01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:15,700 it, can have tobacco and cannabis. 1186 01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:24,080 So a great execution search once there, and taking some people accountable there, that 1187 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,240 are quite involved in the drug trade. 1188 01:38:26,980 --> 01:38:30,340 Our political founder of Suppression Team, our post, 1189 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,060 we're going to explain the busy journey is prepared. 1190 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,560 In the conducting several complex investigations, 1191 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,140 just a higher example, our investigators took over 1192 01:38:39,140 --> 01:38:41,800 a file involved in the series of destruction thefts 1193 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,400 committed by organized crime and groups. 1194 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,520 The SSF still persists well, it's from victims 1195 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,260 and subsequent sophisticated communities 1196 01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:51,320 who have stayed frauds using stolen credit cards, 1197 01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:52,620 personal identification. 1198 01:38:53,540 --> 01:38:58,560 These offenses spend local jurisdictions and provinces resulted in losses of total 1199 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:05,040 100 to thousands of dollars. Our team and posting will successfully identify the suspects 1200 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:10,620 and have now worked with our Navy and jurisdictions across the country as well to support 1201 01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:15,240 getting evidence and enforcement action there and so there's that continues to the state. 1202 01:39:15,500 --> 01:39:16,760 They're on a collaborative approach. 1203 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,540 Our strike force numbers continue their investigation during this period, 1204 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:31,900 investigating a series of robberies. In one of these cases, a MLS aspect had entered the euro bank branch on Kingsway and presented a note to the tower. 1205 01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:37,780 stating that he had a gun involved demanding money. The suspect fled with a couple of hundred dollars there. 1206 01:39:38,620 --> 01:39:43,760 Police average resulting in the defamation with suspect and criminal charges have now been approved against that individual. 1207 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:51,480 Our community response team invites unit, where we're kept on demanding mandates in April 1208 01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:57,720 and May, and then we're slightly adjusted for June and July to support fee preparations 1209 01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,480 as well as special events. 1210 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:06,040 In April, our CRT and bike officers conducted targeted patrols around Hurl and Carriac Avenue 1211 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:11,380 in response to concerns from residents, concerns of increased crime in those neighborhoods. 1212 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:17,460 Also in April, the teams conducted over patrols in Central Park following a report of a 1213 01:40:17,460 --> 01:40:18,960 sexual assault at the park. 1214 01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:24,720 In May, our bike officers teamed up with crime prevention and ICBC to interact with 1215 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,300 e-scuter riders and provide them awareness from safety tips that part of our education 1216 01:40:28,300 --> 01:40:31,340 can point a campaign and multi-faceted approach. 1217 01:40:32,900 --> 01:40:38,220 Our policemen to help our team continue their work through our most vulnerable citizens, 1218 01:40:38,220 --> 01:40:44,620 and they're working with our intervention teams with our in-capments throughout the city. 1219 01:40:44,820 --> 01:40:46,200 June is reporting period. 1220 01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:49,880 The placement of our reach team respond to numerous falls. 1221 01:40:50,740 --> 01:40:54,460 In one of the examples here in June are often collaborated with Fraser Health 1222 01:40:55,240 --> 01:41:00,680 to assist in older, or sorry, assisted for your health older, 1223 01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,920 a dose community meant to help team as well as the intervention team 1224 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:09,160 from the city to provide support to a 72-year-old male living at BC Housing 1225 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:13,220 Complex. The male's primary was determined to be on healthy condition to live 1226 01:41:13,220 --> 01:41:16,840 our officers in working collaboration with Fraser Health and the intervention team. 1227 01:41:17,940 --> 01:41:23,120 We're able to support this individual with an alternate housing as well. So again, 1228 01:41:23,140 --> 01:41:27,400 another example of a success story for our assistant at individual. 1229 01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:32,660 Our mobile-intervated crisis response team responded to all over 350 1230 01:41:32,660 --> 01:41:38,090 call service service training reporting period demonstrating the increasing need for their service. 1231 01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:41,510 Our youth section officers were busy throughout this repair rate, 1232 01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:48,050 supporting our schools as we were on the final junior period or final months of the school year. 1233 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:54,320 The strong emphasis was placed on community safety, youth engagement, school-based policing initiatives 1234 01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:59,760 and support for frontline operations during the April and May. It made the youth section 1235 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:06,300 continues proactive outreach by hosting events of choose your ride. This initiative was 1236 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:10,720 connected several secondary schools throughout the city. This impactful program was designed 1237 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,480 to raise the awareness from among graduating students of all the potential consequences of 1238 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:21,320 impaired driving as well received by the students in the schools. It's an important initiative. 1239 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,880 During June and July, our use sectional adjusted, it's operational priorities, 1240 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:32,240 And then we'll redeploy to bolster our farm operations for FIFA as mentioned in the last presentation. 1241 01:42:34,860 --> 01:42:40,900 You know, despite the other operational pressures, our EU section was actively engaged in all the schools, 1242 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:45,440 supporting our local schools, and a youth in planning for the upcoming year as well. 1243 01:42:45,620 --> 01:42:52,000 There's the laying the groundwork for the upcoming year and our programs, which we'll ready to deliver here in a few weeks. 1244 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:56,700 Crime Prevention Victims Services continue with their outreach work and 10-in-community events 1245 01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:59,520 and providing educational sessions to community groups. 1246 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:05,840 I want to highlight a few things, May 2nd and 3rd, Crime Prevention and Victims Services 1247 01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:11,800 Dean participated in the T.J. Fest, Kwon Kwon Cultural Base, held at the 3400 Block of Smith 1248 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:16,660 Avenue, officer set a boost at the event to interact with attendees, celebrate the occasion 1249 01:43:16,660 --> 01:43:23,940 of the community members on June 20th and 21st of two officers attended the Panwarf Festival 1250 01:43:23,940 --> 01:43:29,480 as Juan Carlos Stadium to represent, to represent the event, interact with our community 1251 01:43:29,480 --> 01:43:33,360 and build trust in the community and they were augmented by other officers as well there. 1252 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:40,580 So in then July 4th, the team organized a community program with, we set up a candidate celebration 1253 01:43:40,580 --> 01:43:57,740 how that the Israeli Center, several members including two members in Red Surge, and their members of our senior management team, including myself, attended each of the county events in our city as well, which again was a great turnout and a great time to engage with our citizens. 1254 01:43:57,740 --> 01:44:03,860 And I also highlight the fact that myself and one of my officers, Staff Sergeant Major 1255 01:44:03,860 --> 01:44:09,120 doing change, were personally invited to attend the Agacon, he's visit there and just 1256 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,960 in, it was a demonstration of the partnership we've developed with the community there to have 1257 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:14,740 an operational invite. 1258 01:44:14,980 --> 01:44:20,260 And it was an honor and a privilege to attend that event there and representing the city of 1259 01:44:20,260 --> 01:44:24,240 Burnby as well there in that relationship, so I sworn to share that with the community as 1260 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:25,060 well. 1261 01:44:26,650 --> 01:44:27,270 I'll put any questions. 1262 01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:36,070 Okay. Thank you very much. Could I please have a motion to receive your report for information? 1263 01:44:38,340 --> 01:44:46,360 And a seconder. Thank you. And if you want any questions or comments about your report from members. 1264 01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:57,220 I represent my representative mom. Thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you so much Chief Superintendent for your report. 1265 01:44:57,220 --> 01:44:59,900 I'll just look quick question about the East Gooder. 1266 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,860 Legislative New Regulation by law that came out, I believe, in August 17, it's a correct, because 1267 01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:15,100 it was following after the very serious accident happened. Near edge of my house, Hastings 1268 01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:21,720 and Delta, I think it was like 11 year old, and an eight year old guy hit by a car and they were 1269 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:29,220 like belly injured. And thank you so much for acting so quickly. It's just to ensure I just have 1270 01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:35,340 question, I mean, it's too early to see if the really fact of that. And I think right now there's 1271 01:45:35,340 --> 01:45:41,180 really a real lack of education even among parents. And until you're honest, like we're 1272 01:45:41,180 --> 01:45:48,400 dull looking at just today, I didn't even know, like if my 14-year-old decided to be going to 1273 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:54,900 East Guter, I could be fine as a parent. So, I'm just wondering in terms of the education piece, 1274 01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:01,240 for schools and things like that and whether or not they have been 1275 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:07,640 discussion about places like Costco or Walmart, they sell like East 1276 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,800 scooter, whether or not there should be some sort of like a labelling on a 1277 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:17,820 box they like give you under 16 you know you're not you're not allowed to use this 1278 01:46:17,820 --> 01:46:24,040 and things like that yeah I'm through which I agree with the labelling here 1279 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,880 I think this is a relatively new and just for clarification. 1280 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,320 There are the provincial laws regarding 1281 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,520 exclusion, however, and I think, for the previous year. 1282 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,940 And the city of Burnaby took the staffs on the pilot program 1283 01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:37,840 to introduce a by-law before those dated. 1284 01:46:38,180 --> 01:46:40,120 And I think it was the education piece 1285 01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,700 that we started back in the previous quarter. 1286 01:46:42,820 --> 01:46:44,680 Just to start as there is relatively new 1287 01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:49,700 and we saw the pending issues that we're going to be arising. 1288 01:46:50,140 --> 01:46:52,000 And we want to take a measure of approach 1289 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:58,440 with our community because of the lack of education on there, so we did the education through our community engagement sessions, 1290 01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:04,760 through our social media channels, our web pages, and trying to take a measure to approach, 1291 01:47:05,220 --> 01:47:08,660 and then because of the rising and it's not just our community, we've seen it on the news, 1292 01:47:08,780 --> 01:47:11,320 and all of the communities, we've seen the injuries rise. 1293 01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:17,300 Medical professionals have come out to highlight the significant injuries that are resulting in that. 1294 01:47:17,300 --> 01:47:27,760 And so I believe it was important for us to take a step on now and increasing that to an enforcement level there and we did an operation here just a few weeks ago. 1295 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,800 And then he was highlighting, 1296 01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,980 we knew he was, or there's some of the people he stopped. 1297 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,740 You know, highlight one example was a parent doubling 1298 01:47:35,740 --> 01:47:37,820 a child with no helmets, right? 1299 01:47:37,860 --> 01:47:41,020 And it was, I didn't know that it was wrong, right? 1300 01:47:41,060 --> 01:47:43,740 And so there was, so there was a lot of education there 1301 01:47:43,740 --> 01:47:44,900 and taken a measure report for them. 1302 01:47:44,900 --> 01:47:46,520 There was also some enforcement action. 1303 01:47:47,380 --> 01:47:50,100 And we'll continue with that, where we can. 1304 01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:54,920 The schools, I know, to, some of the letters 1305 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,680 are coming out through the schools right now, 1306 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,940 or highlighting that knowledge, scooters and schools. 1307 01:47:59,380 --> 01:48:00,820 And I think that they're taking a approach 1308 01:48:00,820 --> 01:48:03,180 now to start educating students as well 1309 01:48:03,180 --> 01:48:05,620 on the dangers of that and the liability of that. 1310 01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:08,600 We're hoping that the message will start to resonate there 1311 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,520 and it's up to the manufacturers and the stores 1312 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,680 and the labeling, but I welcome that. 1313 01:48:13,480 --> 01:48:16,080 And I think that's at a more than a provincial level 1314 01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:19,200 to kind of change those laws there. 1315 01:48:21,580 --> 01:48:23,120 Okay, thank you very much. 1316 01:48:24,660 --> 01:48:27,240 Okay, thank you Chief Superintendent Palmer. 1317 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,540 The report has been moved in second aid. 1318 01:48:30,620 --> 01:48:31,840 I'll call it to question. 1319 01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:33,520 Although it's approved. 1320 01:48:34,780 --> 01:48:35,280 Opposed. 1321 01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:37,260 Thank you. 1322 01:48:37,940 --> 01:48:40,180 And so next we have a 7.4. 1323 01:48:41,220 --> 01:48:45,280 This report is providing the Bernabey Fire Department status update. 1324 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,440 Available to the end of July 2026. 1325 01:48:48,980 --> 01:48:51,400 This is the fire chief of anything out of this time. 1326 01:48:52,260 --> 01:48:52,800 Thank you, Chair. 1327 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:59,020 This is a report on the Burry Fire Department from August 25, July 26, 1328 01:48:59,260 --> 01:49:00,460 I'll be half of the fire chief. 1329 01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,480 You have the report, what is to a few highlights. 1330 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,200 Major incidences through the period recently. 1331 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:14,320 We've seen a few structure fires, bushing grass fire, we also provided mutual aid to 1332 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,260 a new west who had a significant fire in their city. 1333 01:49:17,260 --> 01:49:26,560 I can report that our new Fire Detection camera system did detect all these fires. 1334 01:49:27,180 --> 01:49:28,620 Oh, sure, sure, sure again. 1335 01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,620 Another highlight is our suppression division statistics. 1336 01:49:34,660 --> 01:49:41,640 Currently, we are experiencing about 400 more calls annually than we did last year. 1337 01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:48,440 And this trend is slowly creeping up throughout the months as we reach the end of the year for 2026. 1338 01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:55,120 We've seen an increase in building fires as the density of the city increases. 1339 01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:59,920 And the number multi residential unit and commercial buildings increase. 1340 01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:09,320 Increase and fire events typically experience through our holiday season and with our winter months as residents are often home. 1341 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,520 more often in the fallow winter. 1342 01:50:14,020 --> 01:50:17,820 We've also seen an increase in bushing grass fires and wild 1343 01:50:17,820 --> 01:50:25,680 land fires recently due to the dry effects of climate change. And our city spaces have been notable 1344 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:32,660 within our parklands. The dry wildlands season now begins earlier in April and extends usually 1345 01:50:32,660 --> 01:50:33,380 to October. 1346 01:50:37,420 --> 01:50:43,460 That is for the report. The fire chief would like me to also highlight the 1347 01:50:43,460 --> 01:50:52,140 that we are coming up to Halloween soon and anyone using fireworks must understand that it is prohibited 1348 01:50:52,140 --> 01:50:59,700 within city property and the use of firecrackers are also prohibited. For children it's a busy time 1349 01:50:59,700 --> 01:51:04,780 for our firefighters and we want to make sure that everyone is safe so if you are wearing a mask 1350 01:51:04,780 --> 01:51:17,920 make sure that you are able to see the landscape and without it being blocked. Also be mindful of any 1351 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:22,420 Halloween candy we asked parents to definitely keep an eye on children if they're using 1352 01:51:22,420 --> 01:51:29,600 Halloween candy for obvious choking hazards. So please be aware around that time here. 1353 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,420 Thank you very much. 1354 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:33,340 Okay, thank you very much. 1355 01:51:33,740 --> 01:51:37,280 Will someone please move a motion to receive the report for information? 1356 01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:39,000 Thank you. 1357 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:40,460 And do I have a seconder? 1358 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:42,360 Thank you. 1359 01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:44,440 And I see Councillor Lee. 1360 01:51:46,530 --> 01:51:47,570 Thank you, Chair. 1361 01:51:48,430 --> 01:51:52,850 Through you and my question is on the increase of course over the last year. 1362 01:51:53,730 --> 01:51:58,050 How many are we related and how many are we health related? 1363 01:51:59,830 --> 01:52:06,010 We have the increase in far-laden calls and our emergency, our medical emergency calls are 1364 01:52:06,010 --> 01:52:14,550 seem to be steady throughout the year, but we could get this to Texas for you to have that 1365 01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:17,370 per incident or per event if you like. 1366 01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:17,970 Yeah, okay. 1367 01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:20,010 Yeah, that would be interesting. 1368 01:52:20,350 --> 01:52:20,650 Thanks. 1369 01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:24,350 Thank you very much. 1370 01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,360 Okay, so it's been moved and seconded. 1371 01:52:28,380 --> 01:52:29,220 All those in favor? 1372 01:52:30,020 --> 01:52:45,520 Any opposed? Thank you. So, next, we have a 7.5. So, we have received C-sacrote ports from district 1 for information. Does the district have anything added this time? 1373 01:52:48,230 --> 01:52:53,890 Okay, thank you. We'll someone please move a motion to receive the C-sacrote port. 1374 01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,800 Thank you, and seconder. Great. All those in favour? Any opposed, carried? 1375 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:07,580 E number eight is correspondence. So we have this following item of course 1376 01:53:07,580 --> 01:53:14,140 bondage, which appeared in the August 25, 2026 council correspondence in public 1377 01:53:14,140 --> 01:53:18,660 notice submission package and it is advocating for safer streets in North 1378 01:53:18,660 --> 01:53:23,040 Bernabey neighborhoods, Albert Street Hastings Street and Pender Street. 1379 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,680 Does staff have anything to add at this time? 1380 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:36,800 So, through the chair, we at the RCPA become aware of the concerns there. 1381 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:41,480 I'm just the concerns here is because of constructions that's happening on Hastings Street, 1382 01:53:42,020 --> 01:53:46,140 while the traffic is being diverted through either through Google Maps or directions, 1383 01:53:46,580 --> 01:53:50,240 or signage to go to the Ancillary Streets, so Pender, Union, 1384 01:53:50,860 --> 01:53:54,060 and so there's seen an increase volume of traffic in those areas. 1385 01:53:54,060 --> 01:54:02,980 And then, and because of that, we're seeing, there's a concern about rising speed of traffic in there and some collisions and stuff. 1386 01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:12,920 So, as a result of that, we draw traffic services, has been doing some enforcement action in the area, just to assess the traffic volume and the concerns there. 1387 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:18,180 And so, the last two weeks, we've run some operations in that area, they're just to slow drivers down. 1388 01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:23,420 We've been a communication with the General Manager and a public safety as well as engineering 1389 01:54:23,420 --> 01:54:30,800 and to look at other hardening measures there, whether it's viable for tree calming measures 1390 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:48,160 or that so. But yeah, I can understand the concerns of the community there and so we're going to 1391 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:57,720 So thank you and yes so we're fully aware of the requested area here and we're working closely 1392 01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:02,860 with RCMP as has been mentioned already to develop some strategies to mitigate these issues. 1393 01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,780 I understand there's still following some active investigation for the most recent incident. 1394 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,840 So once those are available then we'll definitely be working with them on those. 1395 01:55:11,180 --> 01:55:18,280 Following that we are also aware of the recent motion from council to help us look into this entire northburner be area. 1396 01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:22,780 and so we'll be following up with our findings from there as well. 1397 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,700 Definitely we'll connect with the writer on the findings once we have that available. 1398 01:55:27,620 --> 01:55:29,140 Okay, great. Yeah, thank you so much. 1399 01:55:29,700 --> 01:55:31,000 Thank you for mentioning the motion. 1400 01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:35,000 I believe by Councillor Tetro, our last Councillor Neese, 1401 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,580 certainly it is something that we're looking at. 1402 01:55:37,780 --> 01:55:39,920 And thank you to staff for the added information. 1403 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,640 I see you representative for it. 1404 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:54,340 I'm going to contact the writer about both prongs of that, but it appears that that's happening. 1405 01:55:55,160 --> 01:56:02,400 Okay, great. Thank you so much. Okay, and so with that, we're at 9 other business. 1406 01:56:03,020 --> 01:56:10,360 I just want to make like a short comment, so I appreciate the delegations that we had earlier, 1407 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:20,160 and the action system and we'll be taking in which you out to the three that presented. 1408 01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:30,120 I also wanted to mention that some of the issues that are brought to us for consideration are complex. 1409 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:37,460 And, you know, they hadn't deployed, for example, the last one that was raised, concerning the red problem. 1410 01:56:37,940 --> 01:56:49,020 And I just wanted to say that I think that those are, again, very complex issues and not necessarily ones that can be attributed to a particular community or to a particular place. 1411 01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:56,400 So I appreciate that a staff will reach out and continue to dialogue with residents as they come forward with that in mind. 1412 01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:57,860 Thank you. 1413 01:56:57,860 --> 01:57:08,260 And so number 10, can I have a motion to join the September 3rd, 2026 public safety committee meeting at 655 p.m. 1414 01:57:09,820 --> 01:57:11,200 Do I have a seconder? 1415 01:57:12,140 --> 01:57:14,060 Okay, and all those in favor. 1416 01:57:15,140 --> 01:57:15,740 Any opposed? 1417 01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:21,260 Okay, thank you very much to the committee members, staff and public core watching life.