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[1:27] The meeting of a public city committee to order at a 5 p.m. territory or a convent, I respectfully inaugurate
[1:37] a convent that the city of Budaply is located on the insulated territories of Moscow, Skomish,
[1:46] through this and cocoon peoples.
[1:51] Each nation has distinct history and distinct traditional territories
[1:56] that are fully accomplished in the city.
[2:01] We encourage you to learn more about the whole nations
[2:04] whose ancestors have occupied and used these lands,
[2:10] including parts of the present day, burdened by thousands of years.
[2:17] Adoption of Agenda, the Papasifti-Kameli-Mini Agenda for Subtainable Suit, 2020-26,
[2:24] as there are any changes to the Agenda, where somewhere in the pre-smoothermotion
[2:30] adopt the Agenda of Subtainable Suit, 2020-26,
[2:36] So moved, in the second, I was looking forward, I was looking forward, I was looking forward
[2:43] I adopted an alpha-minus, the Minus of the Public Security Committee meeting held on June 25th,
[2:52] 2026, was there any change, or as to the Minus, for someone please move a motion to adopt
[3:02] the Middle East of the Pops of the Community, meaning how to earn June 25th, so moved
[3:10] in the second, second, all the same fever in the post, carried. The next one is the
[3:17] delegations and the United Apprentices. The first two delegations are all for a similar topic.
[3:25] where we will have them present one after another and ask for comments and the questions
[3:33] after the second one is completed.
[3:38] Now we have the allocation from Machio first regarding the rise in all the temperatures
[3:47] and to the impact of indoor heat,
[3:51] uh, renewable people across BC.
[3:54] So, Michelle, you're a pre-stick seat at the present table,
[3:58] and proceed when you're ready.
[4:04] Appreciate it.
[4:06] Uh, as we can see, the world is getting hotter.
[4:09] The 2021 heat dome was not a nice-lated event.
[4:14] According to NASA,
[4:14] But 2024 was the warmest year on record, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures.
[4:22] NASA also reports that the 10 most recent years have been the warmest years ever recorded.
[4:29] The graph on the slide shows the trend upward trend of global temperatures since the 1800s.
[4:39] So it's really not a matter of if there will be another heat dome, but really when will the next one be?
[4:44] And how many more lies will be lost this time?
[4:48] Canada is warming twice as fast as the global average,
[4:52] and Canada's Arctic is warming nearly four times as fast.
[4:57] For local governments, this means that extreme heat
[4:59] is becoming more frequent, more intense, and more dangerous.
[5:04] Heat adaptation is no longer a future concern.
[5:07] It is a current public health necessity.
[5:10] And the heat risks from extreme heat include cardiovascular events, respiratory conditions, kidney disease, adverse pregnancy outcomes, and mental health impacts, such as increased anxiety, depression, and aggressive behavior.
[5:28] Who is most at risk? The impacts of extreme heat are not experienced equally. Research following the heat dome found that older adults, people living alone, and people without access to air conditioning experience, the highest risk.
[5:41] Low-income renters face particular challenges because they often live in older buildings with poor thermal performance.
[5:50] They have a limited ability to install cooling equipment.
[5:54] They cannot afford air conditioning or other higher electricity costs.
[5:58] And they have less flexibility to leave overheated homes.
[6:02] People with disabilities, chronic illnesses, language barriers, and limited social connections also face significant risk.
[6:10] extreme heat, therefore becomes both a climate issue and an equity issue.
[6:19] One of the most important lessons from the 2021 heat dome is that most fatalities and
[6:24] occurred indoors, reports following the event found that nearly all heat-related deaths occurred
[6:30] inside buildings, and many of those who died did not have air conditioning available.
[6:35] This is why housing conditions matter.
[6:37] B.C. has long recognized that tenants require protection from cold temperatures.
[6:42] However, for many years, there's been no equivalent protection when indoor temperatures
[6:46] become dangerously hot.
[6:49] As climate change increases the frequency of extreme heat events, thermal safety, inside
[6:54] rental housing should be viewed as a basic public health requirement.
[6:58] A home should not become a health hazard during extreme weather.
[7:05] What can local governments do about the global issue in response to the deaths that occurred
[7:11] during the heat dome?
[7:12] New Westminster became the first municipality in Canada to adopt an indoor heat by-law.
[7:18] This by-law requires landlords to maintain at least one living space in a tenant occupied
[7:23] rental unit at an average temperature of 26 degrees Celsius or below between 8 p.m.
[7:30] And a-day, I'm during the heat season. The policy recognizes that cooling is a life-saving necessity for many residents. New Westminster also previously prohibited blanket restrictions on portable air conditioning units in rental housing.
[7:44] Their work provides vertiby with a made in Metro Vancouver policy model that can be studied and adapted here.
[7:55] My request for the committee is, I mean,
[8:01] Bernabey has already taken important steps.
[8:03] The city currently operates cooling centers during extreme heat events
[8:06] and provides residents access to libraries, recreation facilities, community centers,
[8:11] drinking water stations, shaded areas, and cooling resources.
[8:15] So building on that strong foundation, I encourage you to consider the following actions.
[8:21] direct staff to investigate and endorse heat by-law for rental housing, assess older rental
[8:26] buildings that may pose elevated heat risks, expand outreach to vulnerable residents during
[8:32] heat emergencies, support building retrofit programs that improve cooling and resilience,
[8:38] continue strengthening climate, climate, education, and public health planning.
[8:44] And these measures can help ensure that vulnerable residents are protected before the next heat emergency
[8:49] occurs. And so the call to action, you know, it showed us that extreme heat can be fatal.
[8:54] We know who's most at risk. We know that indoor heat is a major contributor to harm. And
[8:59] Bernabey is demonstrated leadership and climate action and emergency preparedness.
[9:05] So cooling
[9:05] is not a luxury. It's a life-saving and infrastructure. So thank you for your time and
[9:10] consideration to create the city that we all want to live in and be.
[9:14] Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. We will invite you back after the second presentation.
[9:23] So we have now a dedication from Max Dixon.
[9:27] Well, doc, we're going to see the board to implement on Max and the heat spiral for run to units.
[9:36] Right. Thank you so much for allowing me to present today.
[9:39] So, I'm a renter in Bernabee, I've lived here since 2024.
[9:45] Let me tell you a little bit about my summer last year.
[9:49] So, I live in one of those old rental buildings that Michelle was talking about.
[9:52] Built in the sixties, purpose built rental.
[9:55] It is not the hottest unit in the building.
[9:57] I'm only on the second floor, but last year when temperatures were consistently hot as they are every year and how it seems.
[10:04] that the apartment was getting similarly hot.
[10:07] So over 32 degrees consistently on the hottest days.
[10:11] And I'm not someone with real specific vulnerabilities, right?
[10:14] But I don't have any major health issues that make me more vulnerable to heat.
[10:19] But still, I was having significant issues from the heat.
[10:23] So I was sleeping really bad.
[10:25] My productivity was really bad. I worked from home.
[10:28] And there was a day after doing one too many chores that I had some mild heat exhaustion symptoms.
[10:32] just as they said, it's not got out of the blue, right?
[10:35] Like, you don't see it coming, so I got air conditioning, I stopped being foolish, I got
[10:41] air conditioning at the end of the summer, and lo and behold, my problems resolved.
[10:47] So my story is not that interesting, but it's also extremely common, right?
[10:51] Like this is the same pattern that just about everybody experiences, get through hot, get AC,
[10:58] and it's also not an issue because I didn't have any obstacles, like my health wasn't
[11:02] bad. I could afford the air conditioner and my mother wasn't preventing me from purchasing it,
[11:07] which is the crucial one. The temperatures I experienced are also very typical.
[11:12] CBC did some investigation with a bunch of households across Canada, including Vancouver,
[11:19] and they found that temperatures were over 26 degrees, over 12 hours of the day,
[11:24] in over half of the households. As you may know, 26 degrees is considered kind of the maximum
[11:29] safe temperature for indoor spaces.
[11:34] So here is a here's a graph based on some data that was collected
[11:39] by Acorn Canada was a residential at Tennessee Advocacy Group and they show exactly what you'd
[11:47] expect air conditioning improves outcomes for tenants when it's hot, right? Like all those
[11:53] heat related symptoms are significantly alleviated by air conditioning. Not even necessarily
[11:57] effective recognition, just having your conditioning.
[12:02] So what's preventing people from getting your conditioning?
[12:05] Also, as you would expect, affordability is the number one issue, but this is the
[12:10] interesting part to me, as almost 30% of people were prevented from getting your conditioning
[12:15] by the landlords or their leases, right?
[12:17] Almost 30% of people are prevented from protecting their health by restrictions imposed by
[12:22] their landlords or their leases, and in my opinion, it just doesn't make any sense.
[12:27] So, we know that policy options are available, as Michelle mentioned, the U.S. Minister
[12:34] imposed multiple policy options, banning your conditioner, bans from landlords in 2025,
[12:41] and then keeping a maximum number of over-night temperature of 26 degrees.
[12:47] And in my opinion, that is not a particularly honest requirement, right? 26 degrees overnight
[12:52] in the summer is the bare minimum for a livable space.
[12:56] And as many of you may also know, the reason why New West implemented those restrictions
[13:02] or those policies is because the 2021 keystone over 30 people died in New Westminster.
[13:09] Over 60 people died in Burnaby.
[13:12] And as Michelle mentioned, as you all know, there are policies in place, but some of these
[13:16] are just boxes left unticked, and I think they need some focus.
[13:19] And the 63 number I've learned is actually an undershoot, the corner service provides that number upwards over 70 and almost all of them happened indoors at home.
[13:34] So I think the need is clear.
[13:37] I think renters in Burnaby need protection from heat.
[13:40] And I think the policy options are available.
[13:43] Other municipalities have done it. They're not particularly difficult things.
[13:46] And what I'm asking is that you do what needs to be done.
[13:50] Thank you.
[13:52] Thank you, Max, for your presentation.
[13:54] We now ask a mission to return a petition table.
[14:01] Any questions or comments from the committee?
[14:06] We'll have the committee member, Mar.
[14:10] Thank you, thank you, Chair.
[14:12] Thank you so much for the presenters for your information.
[14:16] And it is very sad that over 600 people die in 2021 because of the hit-dong.
[14:25] And as you mentioned, up to 70 people in Burnaby and these are our neighbors, these are our friends, these are family members.
[14:34] I personally know somebody in the US who had lost her sister in an older apartment because of the hit-dong back in 2021.
[14:45] I like to join your call and encourage us to be able to look into this because we know this is a human life that can be lost.
[14:56] And nobody should have to die in the wrong way.
[15:00] Oh, because the temperature is go up. I do a question. Michelle, for you chair, is I love how you talk about, like, of course, we have to think about a policy change and look at the Westminster and that's one option.
[15:18] What I love about your presentation is you also mentioned about that we have to do like with assessment.
[15:24] And we have to do outreach to seniors to let them be aware that it's dangerous when it's hard
[15:33] and often you don't even know you're having a history or can tell you passed out and that's too late if you're living on your own.
[15:41] What about looking into potential, financial incentives like government grants and programs.
[15:49] and if you had done research about that maybe it can make some recommendations.
[15:56] I've done a research on that, but I don't have a nurse here. Do you have any information on that?
[16:01] I've got my grants would be great. There was a bill before Parkland.
[16:10] There was a much deficient way to provide.
[16:15] Very expensive to record and a
[16:20] quite low degree of income.
[16:23] Yeah, I think I remember, I don't remember if it was the Ministry of Social Development,
[16:30] of poverty reduction.
[16:31] I think it's a different one, it's, you know, sorry,
[16:32] but for people on disability or income assistance
[16:35] there might have been an indoor,
[16:37] like a portable air conditioner program,
[16:40] just a $400 cost-covered program,
[16:45] but yeah, something like that for, you know,
[16:47] means qualified, means tested would be great.
[16:50] We could do some researching at back if that's appropriate.
[16:53] Thank you, I'm sure the city will look into that.
[16:57] Thank you.
[16:59] The committee member for it?
[17:07] For this to the council.
[17:09] Because it would be council having to do this.
[17:11] We can make suggestions and then the other thing is have you also reached out to the Bernabey Health Public Health Unit?
[17:20] Because there is a part of Fraser Health and the Public Health Unit would certainly be a helpful voice and provide further information.
[17:28] I suspect so that's just a suggestion.
[17:30] Thank you.
[17:31] Thank you for your very cogent personal comments.
[17:34] Thank you very much.
[17:35] And for the research, the presentations were very good.
[17:38] That's it for me.
[17:39] Thank you.
[17:42] Thank you.
[17:44] Thank you.
[17:47] Thank you for the two presentations.
[17:50] It's very thoughtful that you can come to this committee and present this case.
[17:56] I personally, I and my friend, Dave Parkman, naturally, pass away during that time.
[18:03] He was a volunteer for Scandinavian culture center, so there's a lot to do the center as well.
[18:11] I believe in a house that's where he's up before the house, but when the hit comes during the night,
[18:19] even in the night time, probably in the day time, he's off already.
[18:23] But no one has to ignore about that, and he's actually in that kind of first situation.
[18:29] So I believe some kind of more education in the CNA community.
[18:36] Having that could also go a long way to eliminate that kind of tragedies.
[18:44] I believe in mental units that could be allowed to install rental,
[18:51] I don't know why, is this a city, can a city start by some issues, is it legal to
[19:03] require, we request, or require the cannon law to use the air conditions in the
[19:11] UNICE.
[19:12] Yeah, we can have our hotel manager to have some comments.
[19:16] Yes, through the chair, with respect to the last comment there is a legal, there are some multi-unit facilities that can have straddle by laws that would prevent folks from having air conditioning units.
[19:32] I think the trends are definitely moving away from that though at this time.
[19:38] And it's getting more difficult for people to have those in place just given the rising temperatures.
[19:45] Okay, so, let's see the host of Power to say, well, even though those, oh, you missed,
[19:51] you still should be allowed, I mean, at a continuous should be allowed.
[19:56] Through the chair, probably offer up a number of suggestions,
[20:02] probably after we get all the
[20:04] questions through here, I do have some thoughts on some ways forward here.
[20:09] would address your question as well as a committee member
[20:14] towards question there about staff involvement.
[20:18] OK, thank you.
[20:19] Thank you.
[20:20] Councilor Senegal.
[20:23] Thank you, Chair, through you.
[20:26] You know, I also wanted to take a moment to say,
[20:29] thank you to the delegation for coming
[20:31] for putting together a very clear report and picture
[20:36] about the situation in Bernabey.
[20:38] and thank you, Max, for sharing your particular story.
[20:42] You know, I am sure that for most Bernabey residents,
[20:47] if we hadn't been directly affected, certainly indirectly impacted,
[20:52] you know, I agree that this is an urgent important issue,
[20:55] so I also appreciate our citizen representatives,
[20:59] you know, also expressing their concern as well.
[21:02] If it's all right with chair, I would be happy to hear first
[21:05] from staff about the suggestions that you may see to move forward. Thank you.
[21:12] Thank you. So now that's in a management. Yes, thank you. And those are all extremely
[21:19] very good comments. And through the chair, we'd like to thank both presenters for putting
[21:24] the time. And effort you have put it clearly into your presentations. They're very factual. You're
[21:32] using some accurate data.
[21:35] As you were talking about this,
[21:36] you certainly brought me back to the heat dome at that time.
[21:40] When I worked with the RCMP at that time,
[21:42] I know it had a significant impact on the community.
[21:46] It's certainly a lot of folks, a lot of families
[21:49] lost loved ones.
[21:51] Had a significant impact on the RCMP officers,
[21:54] or partners would burn a be fire and the EHS service.
[22:02] It was usually impactful and what we did find was that a lot of the folks here, you're
[22:08] right on the mark where people that were older and age, they're all in apartments like
[22:16] you described there, the one that you live in right now.
[22:22] When I think about the way forward, I think we'll be appropriate right now as to refer this
[22:28] to staff.
[22:29] so that we can...
[22:30] Examiner, what they've done in New West. But we also need to do an environmental scan to take a look at.
[22:37] And all the province does have some regulations as it relates to the residential tents you branch and the BC building code.
[22:45] But those really speak to heat in apartments rather than cooling.
[22:51] And so it's the opposite side of what we're examining here today. And we're that's most appropriately dealt with.
[22:57] I'm not sure at the moment, but I think we need to do a really good in-depth analysis of that.
[23:04] And is it okay if staff reach out to both of you to discuss this further?
[23:10] Definitely.
[23:11] Okay.
[23:11] Anything we can do to help?
[23:13] Great.
[23:17] With respect to restrictions on, you know, place by landlords.
[23:24] You know, I think that's a key piece in here too.
[23:27] I think that's a, it should be a fairly simple, and here I am talking about, by-laws being simple,
[23:34] and that's the purpose of the case, but it makes a lot of common sense to look at
[23:41] a bare minimum being able to deal with something like that.
[23:45] But I'll let the staff that are most appropriately placed, do the examination on that, bring the information back.
[23:52] And I don't think that we need to go to Council to get staff to start working on that.
[23:57] We can get that examination starting from here and I'll make that decision right now.
[24:05] So we'll start the examination there.
[24:08] Awesome.
[24:09] Great, yes.
[24:10] Thank you.
[24:13] Thank you all for your presentation.
[24:17] Thank you.
[24:17] Thank you all so much.
[24:19] Appreciate it.
[24:19] The
[24:24] next time we have a delegation from Cracket Wilson, I'm recording the feeding of the wild life in Berlin.
[24:33] So Cracket pays to take a seat at the present table and proceed when you're ready.
[24:41] Okay, now for something completely different. We're talking about rats.
[24:45] And Arby's of them. City is calling with them.
[24:49] About 10 years ago I read the City Council to bring this attention
[24:53] bring us to their attention, specifically around the metro town, Skytrain area,
[25:03] and I found
[25:04] out through that meeting that the city didn't have jurisdiction over that. It was TransLink,
[25:09] but the city got in touch with TransLink and they did put up signs which seemed to help in
[25:14] to agree. There are still rats in the area. I saw two, a couple of days ago, in that area. People
[25:21] are still feeding them, though, and it might next to the signs believe it or not.
[25:25] The signs end, and yesterday I'm walking by there, and there's always used like a hundred
[25:30] pigeon cells, huddled around one area, and I know that somebody's fed them there.
[25:36] Specifically, now, the major problem is the north-east ferrisis corner of Derr'sford,
[25:47] Now, at the risk of sounding racist, none of your personal people are of Indian authenticity.
[25:55] I don't know if this is a cultural thing, but it's the only people I see are in the Indian
[26:01] intensity. The seek temple adjacent to it regularly is throwing food out there like rice, noodles,
[26:12] flatbreads, different blanks, that sort of thing. Two days ago I saw a woman get out of
[26:16] a car, throwing all sorts of stuff out there like hamburger buns, that sort of stuff.
[26:21] And this is not like one through twice a day, this is throughout the day. It's like regular.
[26:28] I did speak with the BIOS officer who got in touch with me and they were going to do a bit of a stake out.
[26:34] I don't know if they, but the result was there.
[26:36] But I know damn well that if somebody was there from six to the morning to eight it might.
[26:40] They probably catch at least half a dozen people.
[26:43] It's that prevalent.
[26:45] And the thing with rats is there's an old expression.
[26:48] Everywhere you see there's a hundred you don't see.
[26:52] And I know that's true, because I remember walking along Kingsway and the next of the late Donald's
[26:58] name, Hi Jade and I see this ratman into the flower bed there and there was a went along
[27:01] with a dog.
[27:02] You can hear all this rustling rustling, you hear like like it doesn't rat.
[27:08] Approximately two years ago, I was walking the dog in the morning, the sun was not up
[27:14] yet, it was funny to get late.
[27:16] I'm getting about two minutes away from this area of Kings of Bechford and Kelly, and my neighbor,
[27:25] who's an early advisor to my self, who's coming on her direction, and he's just, you're not going to believe what you're going to see up there.
[27:33] Well, the scene was right out of Willard. You probably know what I'm talking about. It was a whole film from 1970s where a guy could control rats and he had a small army rat attacking people.
[27:43] There are dozens, dozens of rats running around.
[27:47] You had to see it to believe it.
[27:49] I mean, any women, I just would have gone screaming,
[27:52] any other direction, it would have been just terrifying
[27:56] for other people.
[28:00] And basically, we feed the breed.
[28:03] That's part of the problem.
[28:05] I think I don't know, because this is on the OPC-Electric
[28:09] where we're right away, whether
[28:12] the history is dictionary that are still translating, but sign is definitely needs to go up
[28:18] and it should be in Punjabi as well as English.
[28:23] I think the city should be in touch with the
[28:26] seat temple telling them what they're doing is illegal. This is in contravention of the wildlife act.
[28:31] Let me check that out and advise the parish members that is illegal. I might say also mentioned
[28:40] numerous times I've seen the Bonnie's taxi pull up, get out, out the bird's seed, and this is like, this is like this over 10, 10, 15 year period.
[28:51] But I see that regularly happening. I can go, I can go in the morning, see the seafood, walk to Metro town, come back in our later.
[29:01] It's more food is out. All the time.
[29:07] also the north east corner of Edmunds and Mary. There's a small lot there. It's just like
[29:15] one city lot, little park, same thing. People feed you rats there. I drove by there tonight
[29:23] and there was probably a hundred-pitched pigeon sitting in that little, little, one little lot.
[29:28] And we'll down with somebody, but throw it out for them.
[29:38] Well, that's about yet.
[29:40] I think signage needs to go up.
[29:43] It would help.
[29:45] Certainly, the temple needs to be contact.
[29:49] We need to understand what they're doing is illegal.
[29:52] Thank you.
[29:53] Thank you.
[29:53] So, I'm Mr. Rosen.
[29:56] We have a hotel manager, but...
[29:57] I don't know how to come here.
[30:00] Yeah, thank you Mr. Wilson. I appreciate you bringing these concerns forward. I would say that the rat issue is not specific to burn or be you or to anyone neighbor. I think I live out in the valley and they're out there. They're all across this region right now. So I do take note that you've been in contact with staff and that you've been talking with the number of our officers about this issue.
[30:30] So I encourage you to continue to work with them on this and we'll look at the appropriate
[30:36] strategies to deal with education or with signage.
[30:44] I don't even, this afternoon you said to know what the hedger's dictionary word
[30:48] or not.
[30:49] Yeah, it depends.
[30:50] On the locations that you're talking about, because you're quite correct
[30:54] that, and sorry, through the chair, you're quite correct that part of the
[31:00] lens you're talking about or associated with Translinks. So we've got
[31:03] connections with Translinks to work with them. There's other areas within the
[31:09] city that belong to the province as a deal with the Ministry of Transportation
[31:15] infrastructure.
[31:18] There's, you know, properties that belong to Fraser Health and
[31:22] private properties, so it's all case-specific, so we'll continue to work with you and we'll
[31:29] look at the areas that you're talking about and see what's most appropriate to deal with them.
[31:37] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, I'm Mr. Wilson, for your
[31:45] The
[31:48] next one is the LMSGDF repulse.
[31:51] There's a no-the repulse.
[31:55] The next one is the information repulse.
[31:58] The first one we have the verbal repulse from the Tot-Police.
[32:03] anti-graph tea connoisseur providing our report,
[32:07] grafting structures.
[32:09] So Todd, if you're ready, I can take seat and begin.
[32:19] Thank you, good evening.
[32:21] My name is Todd Pollitch.
[32:22] I'm the Antigraphy Coordinator for the City of Burnaby.
[32:24] I've been in this position since 2017.
[32:28] This evening we're going to talk just a little bit
[32:30] about the Antigraphy program as a more of an informational
[32:34] and kind of the insight to the graffiti that we're dealing with on a daily basis for the city.
[32:43] The graffiti tends to be a very polarizing topic and subject where a lot of people advocate for graffiti,
[32:51] thinking it's a form of expression and artistic and then the other side of the spectrum,
[32:58] where a large number of people think that graffiti is vandalism and destruction of property.
[33:01] Let me talk a little bit about that and kind of helping to define what that is and what that means.
[33:08] And I just like to just identify that graffiti really is an interesting phenomenon and it is quite typically a barometer for society.
[33:16] Then we do see the tens and patterns of graffiti increase decrease and change to do with whatever social scenarios are going on within our societies.
[33:29] So, just a quick breakdown of what we see as far as graffiti, and a lot of this is misunderstood,
[33:34] so I'm going to kind of take it to kind of the base level of it, and I've got images up here
[33:40] that kind of break down what types of graffiti that we deal with.
[33:44] And so, the first one I'd like to identify, and this is, it's quite often in this conception,
[33:48] is that graffiti is gang related.
[33:50] And so, you can see in our slide here that the percentage of gang related graffiti in the Lower Mainland
[33:56] and pretty much Canada is zero.
[33:59] So there's a different kind of a scenario that exists
[34:02] between the United States and Canada,
[34:04] as far as graffiti goes.
[34:05] And our gangs typically do not use graffiti.
[34:08] They're non-territorial and use other means.
[34:11] The United States gangs definitely do use graffiti.
[34:13] So a lot of the misunderstandings that come from graffiti
[34:16] is that it is gangredate.
[34:18] And to this part of the world, Canada, it is not.
[34:23] The other elements of graffiti that we deal with
[34:25] are anarchistic graffiti, which is sheer destruction of property, social graffiti, and political
[34:33] graffiti. The number one form of graffiti that we deal with is typically known as through
[34:39] the industry called hip-hop graffiti. And hip-hop graffiti is the typical graffiti that we
[34:44] see where it's people's names, or the monotrues being painted or scribed or used with
[34:50] marker pens or spray paint on various properties.
[34:54] So this populates a large majority of the graffiti that we see in Burnaby.
[35:01] To just kind of step back in a lot of the misconceptions that people have about graffiti
[35:07] and the argument that I receive quite often is about the artistic nature of graffiti
[35:12] and the inclination for it to be expressive and a way for young people to go into
[35:19] use as a creative outlet and the other side of the spectrum being vandalism. So I do
[35:26] argue the fact that graffiti can be artistic and there are people who are very artistic
[35:31] and very skilled and talented that do graffiti, but that is a very, very small, small minority.
[35:37] I've got to list it here is the graffiti that we see and that we witness, that we experience and
[35:41] encounter is 1% and that's being generous as far as artistic nature goes. The reasons for that are
[35:48] completely different conversation.
[35:49] I can go on for hours about it, I won't.
[35:52] A lot of it is to do with motivation.
[35:55] And the type of graffiti that we deal with
[35:57] and the people that do it,
[35:59] they have no interest in the visual aesthetics.
[36:01] They have no interest in creating art.
[36:03] They have no interest in creating something
[36:05] that's beneficial, positive to society.
[36:08] The hip-hop graffiti that we typically see
[36:10] is basically it's based on the motivation
[36:13] of self-promotion and forwarding someone status
[36:17] in the graffiti sculpture, and what that means and what it comes down to is scribbling up your
[36:22] name as many places as possible, as quickly as possible, and giving it as visible as possible
[36:28] by as many people. So we end up seeing like the image on the right, where it's just people's names
[36:34] with their molecules, basically throwing up quickly as possible, that they can gain notoriety
[36:40] within the graffiti sculpture. That's the only motivation behind it.
[36:46] The impact of graffiti
[36:47] is it's deep and it's quite interesting.
[36:50] The obvious is the economic cost to it.
[36:54] And just a statistic I'd love to throw out there
[36:55] is that the United States and we can use them as a tracking capacity
[37:01] because it's a lot more in depth that the United States
[37:04] spends in the neighborhood of $12 to $15 billion a year
[37:10] on graffiti remediation alone.
[37:13] Removal of graffiti and taking down graffiti.
[37:16] Obviously, this might be put to other things and social projects and programs, but that's where it goes.
[37:23] The one of the things that really never comes to the surface and to the horizon when we talk about graffiti is the social impact.
[37:31] And what we see, especially in my line of work, and increasingly we have got people reporting graffiti, which is a great thing, is the misunderstanding of graffiti, and a lot of times people will feel targeted. They'll feel like they're living in a neighborhood, this crime written, they'll feel like they're living in a neighborhood that's gang infiltrated. And it causes this discomfort and this feeling of retreat from community members and that obviously affects things like,
[38:00] involvement in community activities, social capital, and those types of things.
[38:06] One of the things that does hardly ever that hardly ever comes up is the danger of
[38:11] graffiti to the people who are involved in the graffiti subculture, not given to that
[38:15] a little bit later on.
[38:19] The city of Bernabey has been very successful with our program, the Antigraphity Program.
[38:23] It's been in place since 2008 and it was put in place because of a lot of graffiti running
[38:29] rampant and it's been addressed and it's been very successful and the how I attribute that
[38:37] is through our strategies of understanding graffiti. We understand and we've spent a lot of time
[38:42] understanding who the vandals are. We've spent a lot of time understanding what the motivations
[38:46] are. What drives the industry and the subculture but we've also spent a significant amount of time
[38:53] understanding our communities and really looking into the nuances as to how and why certain areas
[38:59] give hit with graffiti in certain areas, don't. And all of this has come together for us to really
[39:05] put together what a lot of people don't understand is that there is a high degree of prevention
[39:11] that's capable and possible in graffiti. And so what we've been doing is putting together our
[39:16] programs, our systems for that purpose is to prevent graffiti and it has been very effective.
[39:23] One of the biggest and most substantial significant elements that we have in our program is our
[39:32] city in 2017, one of the most, the top priority for me was coming up for a way to really manage
[39:40] the graffiti portfolio. And so I contacted our GIS team and they were amazing in putting together
[39:47] our GIS we call it tag tractor. And this was originally composed and put together for the purpose of
[39:55] basically organizing becoming efficient with graffiti. We didn't want graffiti to go through the cracks,
[40:00] one of the way to make sure that graffiti was being dealt with and it could be delegated.
[40:04] Our system at our program has been benefited by being extremely nimble and having the ability to
[40:14] evolve and to identify issues and I give you know full compliments to our senior management and
[40:21] to the manager that I have in being able to do this that our systems are always continuing
[40:26] evolving. So we went from a system of tracking graffiti and looking for efficiencies to now collecting data
[40:33] and looking at the intricacies and nuances of graffiti and being able to put together data collection
[40:39] that we can help to identify the people who are doing graffiti, why they're doing graffiti,
[40:43] where they're doing graffiti and these types of things.
[40:50] Through this, excuse me, through this,
[40:52] we've been able to go and break down graffiti into multitude of categories,
[40:57] into the multitude of degrees and areas that we can focus on.
[41:03] So what I'm showing up in the map right now in the screen right now is a sample of how we can break down and how we can understand the graffiti industry a little more thoroughly.
[41:14] And this year is a sample of us running filters and being able to understand who our most prolific offenders are.
[41:22] And this is a big deal, because as we are understanding
[41:26] that graffiti is engaged by a large amount of young
[41:31] and not so young people, that there are certain group
[41:34] of people who are reconsidered to be pillars
[41:36] of this graffiti industry.
[41:37] And we call them a prolific offenders.
[41:40] So one of our main objectives is to figure out
[41:42] who they are and figure out their patterns.
[41:46] In doing this, we've been able to really isolate
[41:48] a lot of the prolific graffiti vandals
[41:51] through our work in predictive analysis and our work in understanding their patterns is going
[41:59] in preemptively taking away the reward. And what I mean by that is the graffiti industry and
[42:05] the motivation behind graffiti is generally speaking a risk-need board system. So the vandals get
[42:11] reward from having their work viewed by as many people as possible in us by going and understanding
[42:17] and preemptively going out and doing inspections and taking down the graffiti very very quickly
[42:24] we're removing their reward for this. So what we find in by doing this is that the graffiti
[42:30] vandals particularly the prolific ones are finding a reward in the city of Bernabey. That's
[42:35] we're getting a reduction of the prolific vandal activity and a reduction of the amount of people
[42:40] who are actually participating in graffiti.
[42:44] Now talking about our understanding of vandals but we're
[42:48] also talking about the van, the understanding of our communities.
[42:51] And so when we're looking at this, one of the biggest challenges that we have in the graffiti
[42:56] portfolio is reporting,
[43:00] and understanding and becoming aware of graffiti when it becomes
[43:03] visible in the community.
[43:05] And for a number of reasons, people don't report graffiti.
[43:08] It's getting better.
[43:09] People are becoming more informed, and graffiti reporting systems are becoming better, and
[43:13] people are reporting it more.
[43:15] But without this, we rely heavily on our own proactive inspections of areas.
[43:24] So we've identified areas within the city where we anticipate graffiti to be.
[43:29] And we're proactively going and removing that.
[43:35] The other, I think, really great advantage that we've had with the city of Pernabee is the
[43:39] buy-in.
[43:40] And buy-in from top to bottom from senior management to all of our teams and the understanding
[43:45] of the importance of removing graffiti and its impact upon society and the reward for going and
[43:52] actually being active in this. So with this we've had a lot of engagement from our
[43:58] interdepartment groups and the cooperation has been tremendous and with this we were able to
[44:04] obviously work with our customer service teams. We keep on evolving our reporting systems
[44:08] and we're getting a lot more reporting, we're getting accurate reporting, we're getting reporting
[44:12] that's helpful that we don't have to go on to spend time but we're getting the information
[44:16] that we need. Our GIS teams continually updating our tracking software to whatever kind of specific
[44:23] because that we need as we keep on pushing our program forward. Our painting department has been
[44:28] amazing that when we have graffiti and a report graffiti to them, the graffiti basically I can just
[44:35] write it off and say the graffiti has been removed. They are the utmost reliable department. They can
[44:39] remove graffiti, if I report anything,
[44:41] they dropped everything and take it down within a few hours.
[44:44] Which I think is very exclusive to the city of Bernabey.
[44:47] And then of course, our engineering and our parks staff,
[44:49] they become more and more informed of graffiti.
[44:52] They are great as far as reporting it,
[44:54] but also as far as recording information
[44:56] and that kind of thing.
[44:58] One of the biggest things, especially in recent years.
[45:00] This year has been the interaction and the participation of our CMP partners in this. And this has been crucial.
[45:08] And I feel very, very blessed that they take graffiti seriously as they do. And this comes in mind with their investigation.
[45:16] That they put forward and your availability and their
[45:21] providing resources and support for when we're dealing with, for example, prolific graffiti cases.
[45:26] when we're dealing with graffiti cases that are sensitive,
[45:29] we do get a lot of support from the RCMP.
[45:31] As well as situations where there's active graffiti
[45:34] where I can actually say within the last two months
[45:37] of witness myself, active graffiti taking place
[45:40] and got RCMP response immediately,
[45:42] which resulted in arrests, which I don't think we could say
[45:45] that about other departments or other municipalities.
[45:52] Working with my team and Dunbridge in particular,
[45:58] One of the things that we've really really highlighted on this program is our post-incident response.
[46:05] And what this means is that we're always looking at efficiencies and areas and ways that we can make things run smoother.
[46:13] How can we get graffiti-reported easier, how we can get other divisions of the city involved?
[46:19] But also I think that it's been really important because it's taken the graffiti element which is primarily visually aesthetics and putting it into a humanistic form and understanding that the people who are reporting graffiti and people who are being victimized by graffiti, they have an emotional connection to what they're seeing and what they're feeling and what they're experiencing in their community.
[46:41] So our team, they're all trauma informed trained, personnel, make a habit, make a, make it our routine to reach out, particularly in the case of sensitive graffiti, and people who report who are who are concerned, and we're relaying the information to them that even though they see what they consider to be offensive or threatening graffiti that it is not the case, but also relaying to them that we're taking it very seriously as a city of Burnaby does.
[47:09] Our efficiency in removal is very good, and we feel very, very proud of the fact that we can get back to the people who are complaining, reporting graffiti, the people who are being victimized graffiti by graffiti that their concerns are being taken seriously, and the graffiti is being removed very, very quickly.
[47:32] This is important, and this is important because it sends messaging and how we act and how we behave and the service that we provide, it does send messaging in a couple of different ways.
[47:44] It sends messaging to the Vandals in particular.
[47:47] And when we see other municipalities whose graffiti rates are escalating and getting higher, the Bernabes are getting lower.
[47:55] and we're seeing less vandal activity, and this is telling me that the vandals are understanding
[48:03] that graffiti is not being tolerated, but the city of Bernabey, that we're taking an actor
[48:07] for all, and we're removing their reward for doing graffiti, and we're acting very, very quickly and swiftly
[48:12] and responsibly towards us. The other source of messaging, which I think is worth talking about
[48:18] is the messaging to the community. The community understanding that graffiti is being
[48:25] can seriously buy the city of Bernabey that we're responding very quickly to their complaints
[48:29] in the reports. But also it's sending a message of conditioning. And a lot of times we get
[48:36] a situation where people think graffiti is going to be dealt. There's nothing we can do about it.
[48:40] Why report it? Why be concerned about it? So what we're doing and what I think we're successfully
[48:45] doing is we can see by the increased public participation is conditioning that this is not part
[48:51] society that we want to have and that graffiti is not something that should be tolerated and so people
[48:56] are becoming more involved as a result of this.
[49:04] So as we look at our program, we're proud of a number
[49:09] of things. We're proud of the number of graffiti cases that we deal with on a yearly basis, the rate
[49:17] that we take them down and respond to them. We're very proud of the amount of declining political
[49:26] where at one time, when I first came to the city, there was 15 prolific vandals that were
[49:31] actively involved in the city, which means they're doing graffiti on a daily basis within the city of Bernabey.
[49:36] Now we're down to somewhere between two and three at any given time.
[49:41] Very proud as well, and I think this is a result of the interdepartmental cooperation is our communication
[49:48] and communicating with, again, to the people who are reporting and getting back with diligence
[49:53] and with sensitivity and providing them the feedback that we're taking care of
[49:57] graffiti and we understand our concerns about them.
[50:03] Most of this I've talked
[50:03] about. A couple of points I haven't. Graffiti is a gateway to the crime. The
[50:11] people who do graffiti are not exclusive to graffiti. They steal the paints that
[50:15] they use. They're often involved with other crimes as far as theft, breaking
[50:20] and entering. Graffiti is a violent industry. There's violence that happens
[50:25] between different people, different members of the graffiti subculture, and graffiti is dangerous.
[50:31] And this is, I think, one of the biggest points I think is understated, and graffiti is very dangerous.
[50:35] And people get into graffiti, and even parents who see their kids getting into graffiti, and they think it's harmless.
[50:41] They even think it's cool. They even think it's a good thing. And they think it's just writing on a wall.
[50:46] Not understanding that the graffiti subculture is deep, and it's got a lot of messaging, and it's got a lot of influence.
[50:50] the influence of heavy substance abuse, the elements of heavy violence, and the elements
[50:59] of this ability or this necessity to go into prove oneself to up their anti-tap, their
[51:05] reputation within the graffiti subculture.
[51:07] So you can see the image here and it's called going to the heavens where people go and
[51:13] they want to be painting graffiti in the most audacious locations, taking high risk and people
[51:20] falling off of highway signs, people are falling off of overpasses, people being strangled
[51:26] because they're using ropes to repair on the sides of buildings, they're getting electrocuted
[51:31] on railway tracks and that's how to think. So the graffiti industry is very, very dangerous
[51:36] and it should be definitely promoted as one of those things to push young people away from doing
[51:41] and getting engaged in.
[51:46] So I wrap this up to talk about the negativity that we have around graffiti
[51:51] and the messaging that it puts forward in our community.
[51:56] But what we can look at is the other side of the spectrum as well.
[51:59] And we can look at this side of the spectrum saying that as negative as graffiti can be,
[52:04] we have the ability to go into change and to make the communities more positive
[52:08] through our mural programs, through public art, through programs
[52:11] to go into promote young people to get involved in legal public arts.
[52:15] And that's the thing.
[52:16] And then going and putting forward the stewards through the environment and stewards through our community,
[52:22] that we care for our environment, we care for our communities, and to promote this with other people.
[52:27] So this is the end of my presentation.
[52:30] I'd like to offer to you a few of the questions you have.
[52:35] Thank you for your presentation. Now we have the committee member Mar.
[52:41] Thank you so much for your chair. I wanted to thank Mr. Pollidge for your presentation. I did a quick research on the number of graffiti's reported in Burnaby.
[52:56] And big shout-out to your work and your N.T. graffiti program.
[53:03] I've noticed in 2017 or every 2019 or 2016 there was 657 graffiti.
[53:09] And then down to 2019 with 170.
[53:12] So which is a huge and significant decrease.
[53:15] And as we all know in 2020 it was the year of the COVID-19 pandemic.
[53:20] And there was a big jump of over 1,000 graffiti.
[53:24] So, I have a quick question about what the numbers are looking like from 2021 to 2025.
[53:34] That's my first question.
[53:37] If it's okay if I ask a number of questions, answer one by one.
[53:40] So, that's number one.
[53:41] The other question I have is, I believe the city by law says,
[53:46] If the graffiti is on a private property, say in my fence,
[53:51] which is on the fence in my house,
[53:53] I'm required to remove it within 14 days in my own cost because it's in my house, but if it's hate related like if it's motivated by hate or cocaine language, I'm required to remove it within 48 hours.
[54:10] So, it's a little question about the 48 hours, is it, what is your recommendation?
[54:17] I'm a home owner, should I call the police first, if it's pay motivated, if it's 48 hours,
[54:24] is it including the weekend, if it happens on a Friday night, doesn't mean by Sunday,
[54:29] it has to be removed.
[54:32] Through the chair, there's a very good questions, and so we like to deal with our program
[54:38] with a high degree of compassion and where we have these bylaws that regulate exactly how things
[54:44] are supposed to be. We take a humanistic approach to it and we do what we can for the
[54:50] community members.
[54:53] The reporting should go through, especially particularly with hate graffiti,
[54:57] it should go through the RCMP 100%, but then also come through the city of Bernabes. We have an online
[55:02] We're reporting very important to do that.
[55:07] Now, when it comes to graffiti and I'll be honest with you,
[55:11] when it comes to hate-based graffiti,
[55:15] the objective is to take it down as soon as possible.
[55:19] We do the best that we can to take the burden away
[55:21] from the property owner, which usually means someone
[55:25] from our community is painting it out for them.
[55:33] Thank you.
[55:34] So the other question was, do you have the figures?
[55:38] I don't have exact figures, but we're averaging around 1,000, 1,000 locations of graffiti being removed every year.
[55:54] Thank you.
[55:55] The next one has a very fun CSAC statistic number on.
[55:59] Thank you through chair.
[56:01] I thought you're kind of a legend in the CSAC community.
[56:06] So I'm the district chair for district one.
[56:08] And you actually personally come to my house to remove graffiti before because I face a
[56:12] confederation park elementary so it was facing the school and it was very inappropriate
[56:16] for children to see the type of graffiti so I personally made a report.
[56:20] Very easy to do. You came. You personally came. This is many years ago.
[56:24] So you personally came many years ago and removed it yourself and we had a nice conversation.
[56:29] And so and in our district meetings, our monthly meetings,
[56:33] Your name comes up often because you're well respected and for the community members.
[56:41] And I do know, personally, that the RCMP take graffiti very seriously.
[56:46] It's a topic of conversation and affects the community.
[56:50] And we, as the community members in our council, we take it very seriously as well.
[56:56] So I just wanted to thank you, personally.
[56:58] I know the good work that your team is doing.
[57:01] I do actually have one question because something came up a couple of months ago when our
[57:06] committee about the acid etching graffiti that was starting to happen and along Hastings
[57:12] Street, the windows, there were some business owners that were getting acid etching and I know
[57:17] this is actually, I believe, as impossible to remove because it creates a ghosting effect.
[57:23] If it's cleaned, there's a ghost in the mirror, sorry, the glass and the glass has to be replaced.
[57:28] Obviously, that's an incredible cost to the business owner, and as we know business owners are dealing with an incredible amount of, you know, overhead and logistics and whatnot.
[57:40] So I just have a question about the specifically about the acidity, and I do know if anything specific is happening in your department of regarding that.
[57:48] Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Through the chair. That's, that was a very unfortunate situation, and acid etching is one of those forms of graffiti which is very, very important.
[57:58] difficult to deal with. Essentially it does burn holes in the glass. It burns
[58:03] lettering into the glass, which is very, very difficult to remove. There are ways of
[58:07] doing it, but generally speaking, the glass doesn't need to be replaced. As far as
[58:14] what we're doing in that circumstance, obviously trying to find a preparatory
[58:18] we would very closely with the RCMP on that, because it was one person who was
[58:28] Thankfully, it doesn't happen very often.
[58:31] It would be incredibly damaging, damaging, and there's not a lot we can do to help remediate
[58:36] that.
[58:41] Thank you.
[58:43] Thank you.
[58:45] Thank you.
[58:46] Through the chair.
[58:47] Todd, excellent presentations.
[58:48] Thank you for your presentation.
[58:50] I'll start with some comments first.
[58:53] With our department there we have a paper partnership with yourself.
[58:56] I think it's what's clear, I think it came through your presentation and the questions
[58:59] here.
[59:00] This is not a victimless crime.
[59:02] there's an economic cost, there is a societal cost.
[59:05] We see that there's tons of literature that shows
[59:07] the importance we're moving it,
[59:09] because if it's on there, the sense is,
[59:11] you don't care about your community,
[59:13] so I will then do other crime and everything else.
[59:15] When we deal with the issue right away,
[59:17] people get someone's watching, someone's dealing with it,
[59:19] the community cares, and you see it, not progress.
[59:22] So I think that's really important.
[59:24] I represent them all to your comments,
[59:26] you report it, every thing should be reported,
[59:27] and we can actually track it.
[59:29] You know, no, we know that there's an issue going there,
[59:31] So we can be to direct resources into those neighborhoods and so we'll prevent that from continuing
[59:35] escalating.
[59:36] So that's important.
[59:37] And I'll leave one question, top of you, do you have representatives and other municipalities
[59:43] and other neighborhoods, municipalities that have your share of position and do you share intelligence?
[59:47] The reason for that question is for my other jurisdictions I've worked in, where we
[59:51] see that is some of these graffiti artists, especially our prolific ones, have a certain
[59:55] signature.
[59:56] and when we're going to get the intelligence of certain people,
[59:59] we'll see their next to their...
[1:00:00] We're able to then track back and kind of hold them accountable and able to have been able to successfully prove that in court that this person is responsible for multiple jurisdictions and kind of hold them accountable and has been successful in court.
[1:00:13] So I got that question for you.
[1:00:15] Yes.
[1:00:15] Through the chair, yes.
[1:00:17] It, yep, very good point that these graffiti vandals are not localized. They do travel around a lot.
[1:00:23] And there have been circumstances as well, I have reached out to counter parts and there's a counterpart of mine in the city of Vancouver and trying to share information with that as well as I believe that your members have had to conversation with EPD as well, trying to share their information and also have communications with our neighboring Co-Quitland as well.
[1:00:46] Over, you know, what we consider to be prolific vandals that may be crossing over boundaries and borders and a type of thing.
[1:00:51] We try to foster and cultivate that as much as we can.
[1:00:57] Thank you.
[1:00:58] Come with your number four.
[1:01:04] You mentioned cost in the U.S.
[1:01:06] I'd like to know how much it costs for to be each year.
[1:01:10] Approximately each year to deal with this.
[1:01:13] It's a good question.
[1:01:14] Sorry, it's through the chair.
[1:01:16] I don't have the exact numbers.
[1:01:19] From the time that we started tracking graffiti, which is 2018,
[1:01:22] team to current, I myself have been in contact with 8,000 locations of graffiti vandalism
[1:01:32] at a cost of, well,
[1:01:37] the industry cost is $2 million for that. With the work that we do
[1:01:44] is substantially less, I don't have the numbers for you exactly right now, but that would
[1:01:47] be if we were, Bernabey sits in a good location where we're handling, we're handling all
[1:01:53] graffiti work internally. So our painting departments and community work, myself, apart
[1:02:00] departments. We don't hire externally and the cost obviously to go external to other private
[1:02:07] companies to do the graffiti removal is substantially higher. So the $2 million I mentioned
[1:02:12] that would be if we were using an external group, our cost is substantially less.
[1:02:17] It would be possible to get just a rough estimate at some point.
[1:02:21] I don't have those numbers right now, but I can definitely like it up for you.
[1:02:24] Thank you.
[1:02:26] Thank you.
[1:02:27] I'm a community member.
[1:02:28] If you're finished?
[1:02:30] Yes.
[1:02:30] Thank you.
[1:02:31] Community members and do.
[1:02:33] Thank you for the chair.
[1:02:35] Thanks talk for your presentation.
[1:02:36] Just a quick comment or even a question.
[1:02:39] One is the reporting actually in the Bernabey Connect app.
[1:02:45] I personally not a fan of filling up forms.
[1:02:47] But I'm just wondering if there is that piece just for increasing.
[1:02:51] reporting. The other piece and just interested is in the
[1:02:54] beautification. I've seen those lovely utility
[1:02:57] reps. Just wondering if you have any anecdotal, like what is the community
[1:03:01] saying about those, have they actually deterred folks? And so I wanted to hear
[1:03:07] about that. Yeah, great. Yeah, sure the chair. Yeah, the I can talk about the
[1:03:15] So, the RAPS program in the neural program is one that we've established as part of our
[1:03:22] beautification initiatives. And so, these programs have evolved as well. And so, we've gone
[1:03:29] from the RAPS program particular, we've gone from having kind of the vegetative type of visuals,
[1:03:38] not type of thing to using some of the material from our RAPS programs, but then we've also started
[1:03:43] using it more recently as part of our youth arts programs, which we've run as well, so we're
[1:03:49] basically taking photos of some of the work that we're doing with some of the youth that we
[1:03:53] work with and putting on some of the boxes and the responses that have been fantastic.
[1:03:58] People are like, and going to your point into your question about the graffiti deterrence
[1:04:03] twofold. Yes, I'd say those receive an encounter, probably about 90% less graffiti, and when
[1:04:11] And they are hit with graffiti, their removal is so much easier.
[1:04:15] Being on a vinyl surface, it's, they come off very, very quickly and easily.
[1:04:20] Then, dear, the question about our web form, our online reporting, it's been very effective.
[1:04:25] Maybe I'll, if I don't answer a question, you can ask it again.
[1:04:28] It's been very effective and it is a form-based and we do require certain information.
[1:04:34] And because of that, it makes our system and our process very streamlined where I can go out into
[1:04:40] community and be able to identify what the graffiti is. And also I think one of the things
[1:04:45] that I should mention is that our system in dealing with graffiti is we work on a
[1:04:50] tree-out system and we look at graffiti and depending upon the type of graffiti is where it is
[1:04:57] who the perpetrator is we prioritize things differently. So when we get a thorough intake form
[1:05:04] from our online reporting we're able to go into say this is a high category of graffiti whether it's
[1:05:09] One is socially sensitive, whether something that is from a prolific offender, where there's a high visibility area, we can prioritize based upon that.
[1:05:20] So the thinking means it might be to fill the forms as very helpful in the streamlines of our system and our program.
[1:05:30] Thank you.
[1:05:31] Councillor Lee.
[1:05:33] Thank you.
[1:05:33] Mr. Chair.
[1:05:35] Thank you for the very detailed report and presentation.
[1:05:39] For the prolific windows, how many exercises for the case of first-class children in court?
[1:05:51] Do they have any statistics on this number of years?
[1:05:57] Seven years?
[1:05:59] Seven years?
[1:06:01] Sorry, your question again.
[1:06:02] Yes, that's full in court, okay, so through the chair, we don't have any convictions through the court system.
[1:06:14] We've recently made two arrests, as I mentioned earlier, that's very rare, that's extremely rare.
[1:06:21] And the nature of graffiti vandalism is it happens very late at night and it happens so quickly that it's very difficult to catch a graffiti vandal.
[1:06:31] For you chair, if this one is a couple of cases successful,
[1:06:37] post-curely content, I think that could have some deterrent effect
[1:06:42] to the frequent offenders.
[1:06:46] And also, you know, caught a water, some kind of penalty,
[1:06:52] and that could also, I mean, something preventing them to do that again.
[1:06:58] So, I don't know, it's just, I think the course is substantial, as you mentioned, is
[1:07:04] cost of millions of dollars to our system, to people, to the department, to, you know,
[1:07:13] all the incorporation that the course will be, would be less. But I, I think,
[1:07:19] yeah, just my, my thought that if this case could be established that could actually
[1:07:27] will reduce the number of open of open.
[1:07:31] Any comments? Yeah.
[1:07:37] Yeah, I'll comment from my previous experience in some of the other municipalities I've worked in.
[1:07:43] Well, some of these cases do get sometimes to alternative measures. Sometimes we get caught, so the statistics are a little bit skewed there, because sometimes it depends on who the defender is.
[1:07:54] And so you catch them, but then because it's they do community work.
[1:07:57] That's where we sort of adjust this program, everything else.
[1:08:00] So sometimes though, so when you look at both the metrics,
[1:08:02] sometimes you do not as accurate there on those ones.
[1:08:05] So you have to put that into context as well there.
[1:08:08] And, but I do, you know, there that deterrent factor there,
[1:08:12] that would be helpful there, you know, it's,
[1:08:14] it's those ones are difficult to prove sometimes,
[1:08:16] and then you know, the challenging on the elements of the offense
[1:08:18] and catching them in the act.
[1:08:19] And so, last way, the intelligence,
[1:08:21] and then try to kind of patrol those areas
[1:08:24] and see if we do catch them there.
[1:08:26] So that would be my experience on that.
[1:08:29] Yeah, since this mentioned that there's some special signatures on some of those
[1:08:35] activities.
[1:08:37] And so if this is the same group of people, some type of organization, whoever,
[1:08:42] so that could be easily identified.
[1:08:47] Thank you.
[1:08:49] Thank you.
[1:08:52] I actually have a retired prosecutor.
[1:08:56] A tag, a signature wouldn't be enough to take to court because anybody can put a signature on.
[1:09:02] So the cases that I saw were police were just fortunately driving by and actually caught the person in the act.
[1:09:12] If they did not have any record or prior history then the first step is to take them through diversion and often they don't like that they have to do community work service.
[1:09:21] And often does the trick for a new offender, especially if they're younger and they're parents find out, and the police being involved.
[1:09:28] So, but a signature is not enough. Unfortunately, exactly. That's called forgery. Don't do it.
[1:09:38] Thank you.
[1:09:39] Thank you.
[1:09:40] Thank you. Now we have a concert in the city, I go.
[1:09:43] I think you chair through you. I think you as well, Todd, for the presentation.
[1:09:47] And I would like to just add my appreciation as well to you, your team, my staff, for their
[1:09:52] work, in this issue on this issue.
[1:09:57] I think that it's one of those things where, you know, like as a city, it might be something
[1:10:01] that many residents might not notice or take for granted, but I think it's important work
[1:10:06] when we talk about how residents feel in general, right?
[1:10:11] And if it wasn't being done, I think it would be felt, right, that it would impact it would
[1:10:16] like a negative impact on one sense of safety and well-being so I think it's
[1:10:21] incredibly important work that you all do and I'm very impressed by all of the data
[1:10:27] tracking analysis that goes into it and I also appreciate what you spoke of
[1:10:33] earlier about having like that human centered you know understanding about what's
[1:10:38] involved with graffiti because I do recall working at one time at a business and
[1:10:43] I mean, I work one morning and there was graffiti on the door and yeah, I remember feeling like very, you know, violated it and and unsafe.
[1:10:53] So it's so good to hear that our team and you bring that type of perspective, right, when we deal with residents who are reporting or who experienced it.
[1:11:03] Yeah, and also good to hear about how, you know, this is something that, you know, Bernabey's doing well and, you know, I was left to hear it when there are things like that.
[1:11:14] So, thank you for highlighting that also.
[1:11:17] Thank you.
[1:11:17] Thank you for the compliment.
[1:11:19] Thank you.
[1:11:20] Thank you.
[1:11:21] I'll be very brief here.
[1:11:24] I just thank you very much for the presentation.
[1:11:26] I thought this would be impactful for this group to hear what you do.
[1:11:30] For the committee, Todd is he's the guy, he runs this program on his own, although he does work with other partners.
[1:11:39] He's at the center of all of it, so it runs very lean this program here.
[1:11:45] But the impact, and I think we're lucky enough to have a retired crown council here to talk about the evidence required to push these matters through to charge approval.
[1:11:56] And in the first stages that have to occur prior to that, so thank you, committee member Ford.
[1:12:04] But I think, which shouldn't be lost on anybody on the committee here is the impact on the people that are being victimized by the graffiti.
[1:12:13] So often we find, and it's not all the time, but we define the racist, offensive graffiti that has an impact on school children or different groups.
[1:12:24] and even if it's not in those categories and it's on your business or on your
[1:12:29] residents it still has an impact so I think a quick response it shows the
[1:12:36] city cares and it shows that we're all in here to support each other so you know
[1:12:42] the successful program like this really comes from you know how much you put
[1:12:47] into this program and not just your knowledge of it but how much you care so
[1:12:53] Thank you and really appreciate presentation.
[1:12:57] Thank you.
[1:12:59] Thank you. Thank you for your presentations.
[1:13:01] Thank you very much.
[1:13:04] Thank you.
[1:13:07] Then the next we have a little report from
[1:13:12] Corporal Haller Harris who was the MP for worried information.
[1:13:18] Who will be the MP Detachment FIFA Respons 2016.
[1:13:22] Thank
[1:13:28] you. I have brought with me my colleague, Louis Dawson from the City of Burnaby, who also works on with us in special events and our best committee.
[1:13:42] So I am on the emergency operations and social events planning committee are planning off section in Burnaby.
[1:13:51] I'm just going to give you a little highlight of what we do before we get into what our
[1:13:55] FIFA support look like during the FIFA tournament.
[1:14:04] So kind of what we do, some of the things that we're responsible for is operational readiness
[1:14:08] of members, business continuity, of the detachment, disaster response, evacuation plans.
[1:14:15] We develop operational plans for a special event to take place in Bernabey.
[1:14:18] We all know that Bernabey is a very vibrant community that celebrates a lot of cultural events
[1:14:23] and has great events like Canada Day,
[1:14:25] hats off day, we develop operational plans
[1:14:28] for those events.
[1:14:29] So we deploy officers to that to make sure
[1:14:32] that public safety is first and foremost.
[1:14:36] We also review many special event permits
[1:14:38] that come in for any potential approval.
[1:14:44] We monitor environmental protest groups.
[1:14:47] So we work with provincial units within BC
[1:14:50] that we monitor any kind of planned events
[1:14:52] that might be impactful to burn away.
[1:14:54] And if that were the case,
[1:14:55] We'd also develop a operational plan and response plan for police too.
[1:15:00] Respond to that and to manage it. A new thing that we've started is we've taken over any kind of requests
[1:15:08] for over time for our officers to support filming within the burnt city of Barnaby. So kind
[1:15:13] of what that we get information from the city of Barnaby. Filming department and then we
[1:15:19] create joining instructions so our officers know kind of what's being asked, what the approval was from
[1:15:23] the city side and any, if there's any street closures, we ensure that public safety is foremost
[1:15:28] and a lot of some of the film that's been happening lately has had people in
[1:15:32] police uniforms, so we're there also for public safety. We also support the
[1:15:37] divisional emergency operations centers, so we're a de-occus what we call it
[1:15:41] for any request for provincial emergency response, such as wildfires flooding
[1:15:45] that type of event. This year in 2026, we also supported and worked on
[1:15:56] So planning started way back, I started in on EOPS, I think it was the end of March, so this planning started before I came over to the section and we worked with the city of Raby's best community, actually a subcommittee was created, and we met weekly best for those who don't know meets by weekly, but because FIFA was fast approaching and we wanted to make sure we were on top of any weekday,
[1:16:22] requests that might come in from businesses to extend their license or to host any kind of
[1:16:28] FIFA events that we were on top of that and support public safety if that were the case.
[1:16:33] So we also worked in partnership with our senior leadership team within the detachment, the
[1:16:38] RCMP score team, other local detachment, neighboring RCMP detachment to kind of see what their response
[1:16:45] was, any kind of impactful events that they might be hosting that maybe there would be an overflow
[1:16:50] into Burnaby, and obviously VPD, which is where most of the events took the actual events
[1:16:56] to place. And we are actually we're able to participate in some special training with VPD.
[1:17:02] And as I said, we were very closely with our best community partners.
[1:17:07] One of the things that we actually did in anticipation of FIFA was we went over to the Burnaby Board
[1:17:13] of Trade, and we did presentations to businesses so we can talk to them on the city side and both
[1:17:20] are the same piece side of what we could see as a potential impact but they may anticipate so maybe
[1:17:25] it be an impact to traffic, your employees may have a hard time getting to work depending on where
[1:17:29] they are. There could be an impact on just having more people in the area like tourism,
[1:17:35] people maybe wanting to leave Vancouver. There's no game day kind of what that might look like for
[1:17:39] Burnaby. When we also discussed, it is an opportunity a world event in a world stage such as FIFA,
[1:17:45] is an opportunity for public interest groups to now come in to showcase their costs.
[1:17:53] So we also worked with the businesses to talk about any kind of how we could mitigate
[1:18:00] some of that.
[1:18:02] Over the tournament, Timeline, our goal was to support first and foremost frontline operations
[1:18:08] within the city, and to ensure our frontline officers had enough support, and also to address
[1:18:15] any overflow on non-game days or even game days
[1:18:18] because we're close to fan fest
[1:18:20] to support that total tourism overflow.
[1:18:23] Any potential impact on the public safety,
[1:18:26] let me overflow into Bernabey and to sure that also,
[1:18:29] because there were still community events
[1:18:30] happening within the city,
[1:18:32] that we were able to deploy enough officers
[1:18:33] to support those events
[1:18:35] and so they could run in a safe manner.
[1:18:39] So our first was to support frontline
[1:18:42] And many, many months in planning to have
[1:18:48] been sure that frontline was supported.
[1:18:50] So supported by some of our specialized units such
[1:18:53] as BGAD, our KSO team, our post team, just to
[1:18:56] name a few other teams, those are the same.
[1:18:58] Our youth section provided some officers from those teams
[1:19:03] to frontline, so that might mean frontline response,
[1:19:06] responding to files, but also they supported our
[1:19:09] investigative services team.
[1:19:10] So there will be more like some detachments
[1:19:13] call it like a GI, so more serious kind of support.
[1:19:16] And what that did was it allowed our more senior officers
[1:19:20] who have been working in these specialized units
[1:19:22] to come and mentor some of the junior officers
[1:19:25] who were still in front line, and also to boost the numbers
[1:19:29] that were on the road at that time.
[1:19:33] And just great to share that information.
[1:19:35] That's a great mentorship opportunity.
[1:19:36] And we also received support from FIFA, so over the duration of the tournament, we would receive,
[1:19:45] so we, sorry, we supported FIFA by providing over the tournament timeline, 26 of our officers,
[1:19:53] two various different tasks and duties, which, on average, worked out to be between five to six,
[1:20:06] language training, who are our tactical members, who are in Vancouver, some of them were also
[1:20:13] just supporting more like fine line policing traffic control within the city of Burnie,
[1:20:19] I'm sorry, the city of Vancouver. And so that's what we did to support. So we gave 26 officers
[1:20:26] over that duration. And then what we got in return was on a probably a pretty regular basis,
[1:20:33] The most we ever saw was about 26 officers who came and then there was some extras who kind of just saw my signs and thought they would just come and see what going to be all about.
[1:20:45] So we had about 26 officers a day. Their shifts would be from about noon until midnight.
[1:20:52] And they worked on a six day rotation and they would come in and burn me and they would we would deploy them. I would meet them and I would deploy them to different.
[1:21:02] events that were taking place.
[1:21:04] So we gave 24 and we received on average about 26.
[1:21:08] I think the least we ever got was one day we got eight.
[1:21:13] Just because sometimes what would happen is those officers,
[1:21:15] if there was a candidate game day specifically,
[1:21:19] or there was a big game day in Vancouver,
[1:21:21] they would be used as additional resources in Vancouver,
[1:21:25] so sometimes we didn't see those numbers.
[1:21:32] So kind of how we managed that,
[1:21:34] is one of our two. This is the first team that we got. One of the two teams, so they would
[1:21:40] break up into two teams. They would come in their own, please cars or non-mart cars and sometimes
[1:21:45] there'd be four to six in a vehicle and they would be in a van and we would deploy them. So when
[1:21:50] they would come to the detachment, I would, I was their deployment coordinator and I would
[1:21:56] provide them with an oversight of like some pretty important information if you're going to be
[1:22:04] never been to Vancouver, BC, let alone Burnaby, and a lot of them have worked in only small
[1:22:10] detachments, so Burnaby being the largest detachments that it is, a lot of people had
[1:22:14] not experienced that, so it was very interesting for them to see. And so they would come and
[1:22:20] we would provide them with information about where to go and what kind of deployments. I also
[1:22:26] I've used a great tool that low assist team had to play.
[1:22:30] I developed, which was all the events lists. So, most of the events lists would include some of the watch parties,
[1:22:38] some of the establishments within Berneby, who maybe had their patio expanded, and there's going to be more people,
[1:22:46] or they're just going to be showing the event that they came and supported Canada Day.
[1:22:51] So, we had additional resources on Canada Day, the Panoi Festival, things like that, which was great because they got to also just support our
[1:22:59] officers who were already working those events.
[1:23:04] The good thing to you is that this is a really great recruitment opportunity for Burnaby.
[1:23:10] A lot of these officers, again, they may be this is their first, they were only coming from
[1:23:15] their first attachment.
[1:23:16] They had minimal experience working outside of the province that they were in, and they
[1:23:21] were a lot of them had actually expressed interesting coming here.
[1:23:24] So it was great for our officers to engage and kind of share what it's like to police
[1:23:28] in the big city and they kind of opened their eyes and they're like, hey, this is kind
[1:23:32] of cool.
[1:23:32] I actually want to come here.
[1:23:34] So it was very rewarding for us to see the fruits of that labor and be able to kind
[1:23:41] of showcase what a great city, what it is.
[1:23:45] So yes, we used the sheet that Lois gave us with all the events on it.
[1:23:51] Some of the things that they supported was one of the things.
[1:23:54] So Bartwood had a great viewing plaza, it was amazing, it had a great energy, what we did
[1:24:01] was we had our officers go for example the first day and we're like just kind of just
[1:24:05] take a look at the crowd, how's the flow because it's important, there are still users
[1:24:09] of these facilities and we want to make sure that not only are the people going to watch
[1:24:13] the games, filling safe and knowing that everything is okay but it's also the users of these
[1:24:24] train making sure the egress is available. So we wanted to that throw out and
[1:24:27] working with Louis's team, we were able to say, okay well this particular game was quite large
[1:24:32] and maybe the crowd was too much for what was there to manage the security team. We were able to
[1:24:38] provide that feedback and within the next day, they were able to respond to that and prepare a
[1:24:45] more thorough plan for like game days that they knew would have more viewing. So obviously the
[1:24:51] at games were a big one, but we were able to bring that information back and so working in partnership
[1:24:56] was really important during that time frame. We also insured, so I kind of mentioned it earlier,
[1:25:03] that one of the things we monitor is any kind of, you know, protest activity or anything like that.
[1:25:10] So, another part of what our FIFA officers did was just drive around and their unmarked
[1:25:17] art cars, whatever they had, and to our critical infrastructures, because that would have
[1:25:22] been, we just wanted to ensure that we were more than sharing any kind of things that
[1:25:27] may pop up, that we weren't aware of. We do monitor, but things, if you're not looking,
[1:25:31] you don't see it. So we just wanted to have more product of patrols in that regard, as well
[1:25:35] as to other city areas that we deploy them to. So Central Park, we'd like to use some
[1:25:48] Some of them worked within the province, so they were actually from British Columbia, so they could be in a car and have access to our computer systems, other provinces don't use the same, so they were deployed specifically to events.
[1:26:03] So, the officers who were from BC were used also to support frontline and they were paired up with frontline officers,
[1:26:11] and they got to respond to files.
[1:26:14] They were part of scene security.
[1:26:16] So, what that data is that allowed our officers to do the investigations and not get tied out in some of the scene security.
[1:26:21] So, it was great traffic.
[1:26:23] They also did some traffic while they were here.
[1:26:30] And they also participated in a lot of foot patrols and when they were doing their foot patrols
[1:26:34] a lot of the feedback that I would get the next day or even I would get a text message later
[1:26:37] at that night, was how much positive feedback they got from the community and just seeing,
[1:26:43] you know, they weren't there for anything other than just to be a presence, they were,
[1:26:47] you know, they were part of the energy of what FIFA was, which is a great opportunity for
[1:26:51] to be to showcase what they have to offer, so it was very, they were much, they were really
[1:26:56] receive by the public and have a very positive impact.
[1:27:01] Yeah, as well as our community partners, our community partners also said, you know, they really appreciate it.
[1:27:06] You know, the extra patrols or the food patrols in certain areas that would help them address any concerns that might come up.
[1:27:15] And then I will kind of end my part of the presentation and if you will need to answer any questions you may have.
[1:27:27] Thank you.
[1:27:28] I see.
[1:27:28] There's no any questions.
[1:27:30] Come in.
[1:27:30] So thank you for your presentations.
[1:27:32] Thank you.
[1:27:37] The other comments?
[1:27:37] Yeah.
[1:27:38] To the chair.
[1:27:38] Laura, I just want to thank you.
[1:27:40] The most fair presentation.
[1:27:41] What I want to highlight here for the committee as well is this was a perfect, you know,
[1:27:45] FIFA.
[1:27:46] There was a lot of, uh, uh, nervousness.
[1:27:49] A lot of concern.
[1:27:50] The entire, it's a world event.
[1:27:52] And nothing, uh, this magnitude has happened in this country.
[1:27:55] And they, uh, share them on a planning, you know,
[1:27:57] We take the bigger planning, which is the Yers MP, the Vancouver Police Department, and all the
[1:28:02] police agencies did a fantastic job.
[1:28:04] But here in Burtby, one of the things that we had to do was to look at our city to make
[1:28:09] sure our city was safe.
[1:28:11] And with the best as a new creation, the partnership, the best the Yers MP and the Bailad
[1:28:15] Department, and that planning, you know, we're the template going forward on these events.
[1:28:20] And it's not, for all public safety standpoint, it's not just a police response, that whole
[1:28:24] realistic approach. I think we've done a lot of really good templates for that moving forward and
[1:28:30] what that looks like. Our goal here was to ensure that these are citizens in this city felt
[1:28:35] nothing had changed, right, that they can continue normal. And I think our markets success,
[1:28:41] what I think success was when I was in engagement, when I talked to our citizens, they felt that
[1:28:45] way. They felt that they can go to our community events and they felt safe. And it was the number
[1:28:50] people, we have them outside of our country, that we are continuing our city that I saw at
[1:28:55] our events, commenting about how safe they felt and how the city is running, and you
[1:29:01] know from our members I came to lowest point there, we had officers from all over the country
[1:29:05] here, and they were the comments they made were just know how the members treated them,
[1:29:09] but how they felt the clean the city was, what the city provided them, and how they would
[1:29:13] ask the reason they wanted to like, we're interested in coming here. So there's a couple of comments
[1:29:17] want to make on that there. And you know, then the other comment about the officers. I just want
[1:29:21] clarification, it might be a question that's raised. Why do you give up 24 and get 26 back? What was
[1:29:26] the logic back there? So that was from a strategic standpoint. So our some of our officers are
[1:29:31] especially trained, whether it's in tactical training, Laura mentioned in the language skills or
[1:29:35] different skillsets. So the, from the police response is they needed that skill set for various jobs.
[1:29:41] And so it changed the understanding of public safety standpoint. We got officers that were frontline
[1:29:46] officers that were specialised in that field, we were able to deploy them, and then we
[1:29:51] augmented them with redirecting some of our internal resources so we had a search capacity.
[1:29:56] And just to highlight, you saw the screen where Laura was the introduction of...
[1:30:00] The information sessions. That was to ensure that any officer that came to our city understood our city.
[1:30:05] I understood what our community was about. And so we did spend a lot of time about our session before they would hit the road.
[1:30:10] To ensure that we understand what our expectations were of them as officers in our community, in our critical infrastructure, in somewhere, and lower our key points.
[1:30:18] There's so from a public safety standpoint. So I just wanted to highlight that as part of that presentation as well. So thank you.
[1:30:25] Thank you, Councilor Senegal.
[1:30:28] Thank you chair to you.
[1:30:30] Yeah, I also laid express my appreciation for the work.
[1:30:33] I was at some of these community festivals over the summer.
[1:30:37] Some, you know, that had like the community festival that had a FIFA watch party as well as the one at Brentwood.
[1:30:43] And yeah, I know folks also expressed to me like how they felt safe.
[1:30:47] And I did, you know, see a notable presence.
[1:30:50] You know, of our RCMP officers, you know, at those events.
[1:30:54] And so yeah, I thought that was great.
[1:30:57] And yeah, again, I'm reflecting back
[1:30:59] like a few months before FIFA sitting here at the Council
[1:31:01] Chambers.
[1:31:02] And I do recall, there was a bit of a sense of trepidation
[1:31:06] because we weren't sure quite what to expect.
[1:31:09] So yeah, I think it's fantastic
[1:31:10] because I mentioned earlier, it seemed like a fairly fun,
[1:31:13] but uneventful summer.
[1:31:15] So that was great.
[1:31:16] Thank you so much.
[1:31:18] Thank you.
[1:31:18] Thank you.
[1:31:20] Excuse me.
[1:31:22] Thank you. Thanks very much for the presentation for her status.
[1:31:25] Just a quick comment. We've been involved in many events with
[1:31:29] Your organization and we appreciate the professionalism
[1:31:32] The RCMP do have at these events and we value our partnership.
[1:31:37] We look forward to working at the future. Thank you.
[1:31:41] Thank you. Thank you.
[1:31:42] Thank you.
[1:31:48] So next, why is RCMP a status report?
[1:31:52] So, choose the point on this.
[1:31:53] Some of it are report providing the RCMP status update.
[1:31:58] I'm placing operations covering a report to July 226
[1:32:03] and in a performance plan, quarterly report covering a report to 226.
[1:32:11] So, to choose the point on it, I'd like to add ACs at this time.
[1:32:19] Yes, through the chair.
[1:32:22] As mentioned, this report covers the period from April to July of 2026, and as is highlighted
[1:32:29] by the previous presentation, two of those months where we'll break the involving fee
[1:32:34] that the same time.
[1:32:36] So, I just want to comment down, I'll start first on just highlighting some kind of statistics
[1:32:40] and then just cover off some of the activities from the units of our detachment.
[1:32:45] Starting with our crime stats, this was comparing a year to date from 2026 compared to the same period in 2025.
[1:32:54] Residential break-and-enter showed an increase of 6%.
[1:32:58] In particular, we saw in District 1 and 2, sure, a dramatic spike.
[1:33:03] It's one of highlight here.
[1:33:04] So in District 1, we saw from 11 files to 21 files.
[1:33:08] And then in District 2, 9027.
[1:33:10] I want to present context to this, our obligations from our reporting of crime statistics from
[1:33:18] the national perspective and how files are scored. In this case, the two districts we had a spike
[1:33:25] in buildings that were broken into where their mailboxes were broken into and each of those mailboxes
[1:33:31] because their separate victims are scored as a separate break-in enter. So that's the kind of context
[1:33:36] there. So we saw some of that rise there. I don't want to discount that because each of those
[1:33:41] mailboxes, there's a victim associated to it. But to an important context, there wasn't 21
[1:33:47] suffered residences that were caused by some concern, there were 27 residences.
[1:33:54] Shifting over to a break in enter our business, we saw an increase by 19% in Burnaby.
[1:33:58] of note there we saw districts 2, we saw 50% increase from 48 files to 72 files in the district 4,
[1:34:09] a 65% increase from 79 to 135 files.
[1:34:15] We did see a decrease of 47% from 68 files to 36 files in district 1.
[1:34:21] Part of that, I'm sorry, increase of 5%, we went from 733,000, 2025, 2073 files during this period in 2026.
[1:34:36] Part of that decreased by 3%.
[1:34:40] We went from 144 files to 144 files, and a warberry decreased by 31% from 91 files to 63 files.
[1:34:51] And there is a decrease in all the districts except for district one, which saw a slight increase from nine falls to 13 files.
[1:34:59] Shifting over to you as some of the work from our units, from a traffic section, our traffic officers continue their enforcement efforts,
[1:35:06] and conducting various initiatives to support the animal performance plan.
[1:35:10] The officers focus their efforts on enforcing speed and excess speed during the month of May,
[1:35:17] as this initiative was in line with the British Columbia Association of Chiefs of Police directive.
[1:35:25] And so, and speeding enforcement, 133 enforcement operations were done, including several operations in playground and school zones.
[1:35:33] 66 operations were done during May, which resulted in 170 violation tickets for excesses speeding alone.
[1:35:39] In total, our officers issued over 500 biolation tickets for speeding and excesses speeding during this reporting period.
[1:35:48] In during this period, we skipped off our E-Sketter education campaign.
[1:35:53] So our traffic officers conducted several educational sessions on E-Sketters and E-Bike by-laws.
[1:35:59] Also, the officers conducted some important operations during which the issued several written warnings for writers
[1:36:04] for writing on sidewalk, writing on crosswalk,
[1:36:07] you know, helmet, and other offenses.
[1:36:10] This was strategically done to start an education campaign,
[1:36:12] which then in this quarter, which I'll report on next period,
[1:36:16] resulted in an enforcement campaign.
[1:36:19] So we did a measured approach in our community.
[1:36:23] From a commercial vehicle enforcement,
[1:36:26] the number of commercial vehicle enforcement operations
[1:36:28] were lower than usual as are certified officer
[1:36:32] was a way of an extended period on parental leave and he's now returned to duty so we should see
[1:36:38] that back in operation it is quarter coming up here. For operations word have been
[1:36:44] were conducted including two multi agency joint operations. A hundred vehicles were inspecting
[1:36:51] resulting in 48 trucks being placed out of service and a hundred 45 violation tickets being issued to
[1:36:58] Our traffic section also conducted subriding enforcement.
[1:37:02] Nine operations were conducted from April to July.
[1:37:05] Thirty-nine drivers were found to be impaired,
[1:37:08] which were grabbing provisions when notices to drivers.
[1:37:12] We did also do some distracted driving enforcement,
[1:37:15] where the total of 24 enforcement operations were conducted,
[1:37:18] and where 160 violation tickets were issued,
[1:37:21] mostly for cell phone use while driving.
[1:37:26] I'm going to be getting first in team, continue with the proactive project.
[1:37:30] Rejoice and investee of operations.
[1:37:33] June is period. A number of vehicle staffs were conducted, resulting in seizure of illegal drugs, firearms,
[1:37:40] immoral crime, related items. To highlight this, in one of the cases that occurred in April,
[1:37:46] are being investigated, investigators, executed multiple search warrant, had various
[1:37:50] locations resulting in the seizure of five firearms, close to 30,000 dollars in cash, radio
[1:37:56] jammers, 170 liters of precursor drugs, 200 liters of finished G-H-B, which is also
[1:38:05] commonly referred to as a D-ray drug.
[1:38:08] And over 4,000 kilograms of precursor for NDMA, as well as extensive amounts of all of
[1:38:14] it, can have tobacco and cannabis.
[1:38:16] So a great execution search once there, and taking some people accountable there, that
[1:38:24] are quite involved in the drug trade.
[1:38:26] Our political founder of Suppression Team, our post,
[1:38:31] we're going to explain the busy journey is prepared.
[1:38:33] In the conducting several complex investigations,
[1:38:36] just a higher example, our investigators took over
[1:38:39] a file involved in the series of destruction thefts
[1:38:41] committed by organized crime and groups.
[1:38:43] The SSF still persists well, it's from victims
[1:38:46] and subsequent sophisticated communities
[1:38:49] who have stayed frauds using stolen credit cards,
[1:38:51] personal identification.
[1:38:53] These offenses spend local jurisdictions and provinces resulted in losses of total
[1:38:58] 100 to thousands of dollars. Our team and posting will successfully identify the suspects
[1:39:05] and have now worked with our Navy and jurisdictions across the country as well to support
[1:39:10] getting evidence and enforcement action there and so there's that continues to the state.
[1:39:15] They're on a collaborative approach.
[1:39:19] Our strike force numbers continue their investigation during this period,
[1:39:24] investigating a series of robberies. In one of these cases, a MLS aspect had entered the euro bank branch on Kingsway and presented a note to the tower.
[1:39:32] stating that he had a gun involved demanding money. The suspect fled with a couple of hundred dollars there.
[1:39:38] Police average resulting in the defamation with suspect and criminal charges have now been approved against that individual.
[1:39:44] Our community response team invites unit, where we're kept on demanding mandates in April
[1:39:51] and May, and then we're slightly adjusted for June and July to support fee preparations
[1:39:57] as well as special events.
[1:40:00] In April, our CRT and bike officers conducted targeted patrols around Hurl and Carriac Avenue
[1:40:06] in response to concerns from residents, concerns of increased crime in those neighborhoods.
[1:40:11] Also in April, the teams conducted over patrols in Central Park following a report of a
[1:40:17] sexual assault at the park.
[1:40:19] In May, our bike officers teamed up with crime prevention and ICBC to interact with
[1:40:24] e-scuter riders and provide them awareness from safety tips that part of our education
[1:40:28] can point a campaign and multi-faceted approach.
[1:40:32] Our policemen to help our team continue their work through our most vulnerable citizens,
[1:40:38] and they're working with our intervention teams with our in-capments throughout the city.
[1:40:44] June is reporting period.
[1:40:46] The placement of our reach team respond to numerous falls.
[1:40:50] In one of the examples here in June are often collaborated with Fraser Health
[1:40:55] to assist in older, or sorry, assisted for your health older,
[1:41:00] a dose community meant to help team as well as the intervention team
[1:41:04] from the city to provide support to a 72-year-old male living at BC Housing
[1:41:09] Complex. The male's primary was determined to be on healthy condition to live
[1:41:13] our officers in working collaboration with Fraser Health and the intervention team.
[1:41:17] We're able to support this individual with an alternate housing as well. So again,
[1:41:23] another example of a success story for our assistant at individual.
[1:41:28] Our mobile-intervated crisis response team responded to all over 350
[1:41:32] call service service training reporting period demonstrating the increasing need for their service.
[1:41:39] Our youth section officers were busy throughout this repair rate,
[1:41:42] supporting our schools as we were on the final junior period or final months of the school year.
[1:41:48] The strong emphasis was placed on community safety, youth engagement, school-based policing initiatives
[1:41:54] and support for frontline operations during the April and May. It made the youth section
[1:41:59] continues proactive outreach by hosting events of choose your ride. This initiative was
[1:42:06] connected several secondary schools throughout the city. This impactful program was designed
[1:42:10] to raise the awareness from among graduating students of all the potential consequences of
[1:42:14] impaired driving as well received by the students in the schools. It's an important initiative.
[1:42:22] During June and July, our use sectional adjusted, it's operational priorities,
[1:42:26] And then we'll redeploy to bolster our farm operations for FIFA as mentioned in the last presentation.
[1:42:34] You know, despite the other operational pressures, our EU section was actively engaged in all the schools,
[1:42:41] supporting our local schools, and a youth in planning for the upcoming year as well.
[1:42:45] There's the laying the groundwork for the upcoming year and our programs, which we'll ready to deliver here in a few weeks.
[1:42:52] Crime Prevention Victims Services continue with their outreach work and 10-in-community events
[1:42:56] and providing educational sessions to community groups.
[1:43:00] I want to highlight a few things, May 2nd and 3rd, Crime Prevention and Victims Services
[1:43:05] Dean participated in the T.J. Fest, Kwon Kwon Cultural Base, held at the 3400 Block of Smith
[1:43:11] Avenue, officer set a boost at the event to interact with attendees, celebrate the occasion
[1:43:16] of the community members on June 20th and 21st of two officers attended the Panwarf Festival
[1:43:23] as Juan Carlos Stadium to represent, to represent the event, interact with our community
[1:43:29] and build trust in the community and they were augmented by other officers as well there.
[1:43:34] So in then July 4th, the team organized a community program with, we set up a candidate celebration
[1:43:40] how that the Israeli Center, several members including two members in Red Surge, and their members of our senior management team, including myself, attended each of the county events in our city as well, which again was a great turnout and a great time to engage with our citizens.
[1:43:57] And I also highlight the fact that myself and one of my officers, Staff Sergeant Major
[1:44:03] doing change, were personally invited to attend the Agacon, he's visit there and just
[1:44:09] in, it was a demonstration of the partnership we've developed with the community there to have
[1:44:13] an operational invite.
[1:44:14] And it was an honor and a privilege to attend that event there and representing the city of
[1:44:20] Burnby as well there in that relationship, so I sworn to share that with the community as
[1:44:24] well.
[1:44:26] I'll put any questions.
[1:44:27] Okay. Thank you very much. Could I please have a motion to receive your report for information?
[1:44:38] And a seconder. Thank you. And if you want any questions or comments about your report from members.
[1:44:50] I represent my representative mom. Thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you so much Chief Superintendent for your report.
[1:44:57] I'll just look quick question about the East Gooder.
[1:45:00] Legislative New Regulation by law that came out, I believe, in August 17, it's a correct, because
[1:45:07] it was following after the very serious accident happened. Near edge of my house, Hastings
[1:45:15] and Delta, I think it was like 11 year old, and an eight year old guy hit by a car and they were
[1:45:21] like belly injured. And thank you so much for acting so quickly. It's just to ensure I just have
[1:45:29] question, I mean, it's too early to see if the really fact of that. And I think right now there's
[1:45:35] really a real lack of education even among parents. And until you're honest, like we're
[1:45:41] dull looking at just today, I didn't even know, like if my 14-year-old decided to be going to
[1:45:48] East Guter, I could be fine as a parent. So, I'm just wondering in terms of the education piece,
[1:45:57] for schools and things like that and whether or not they have been
[1:46:01] discussion about places like Costco or Walmart, they sell like East
[1:46:07] scooter, whether or not there should be some sort of like a labelling on a
[1:46:11] box they like give you under 16 you know you're not you're not allowed to use this
[1:46:17] and things like that yeah I'm through which I agree with the labelling here
[1:46:24] I think this is a relatively new and just for clarification.
[1:46:27] There are the provincial laws regarding
[1:46:30] exclusion, however, and I think, for the previous year.
[1:46:33] And the city of Burnaby took the staffs on the pilot program
[1:46:35] to introduce a by-law before those dated.
[1:46:38] And I think it was the education piece
[1:46:40] that we started back in the previous quarter.
[1:46:42] Just to start as there is relatively new
[1:46:44] and we saw the pending issues that we're going to be arising.
[1:46:50] And we want to take a measure of approach
[1:46:52] with our community because of the lack of education on there, so we did the education through our community engagement sessions,
[1:46:59] through our social media channels, our web pages, and trying to take a measure to approach,
[1:47:05] and then because of the rising and it's not just our community, we've seen it on the news,
[1:47:08] and all of the communities, we've seen the injuries rise.
[1:47:11] Medical professionals have come out to highlight the significant injuries that are resulting in that.
[1:47:17] And so I believe it was important for us to take a step on now and increasing that to an enforcement level there and we did an operation here just a few weeks ago.
[1:47:27] And then he was highlighting,
[1:47:30] we knew he was, or there's some of the people he stopped.
[1:47:33] You know, highlight one example was a parent doubling
[1:47:35] a child with no helmets, right?
[1:47:37] And it was, I didn't know that it was wrong, right?
[1:47:41] And so there was, so there was a lot of education there
[1:47:43] and taken a measure report for them.
[1:47:44] There was also some enforcement action.
[1:47:47] And we'll continue with that, where we can.
[1:47:50] The schools, I know, to, some of the letters
[1:47:54] are coming out through the schools right now,
[1:47:56] or highlighting that knowledge, scooters and schools.
[1:47:59] And I think that they're taking a approach
[1:48:00] now to start educating students as well
[1:48:03] on the dangers of that and the liability of that.
[1:48:05] We're hoping that the message will start to resonate there
[1:48:08] and it's up to the manufacturers and the stores
[1:48:10] and the labeling, but I welcome that.
[1:48:13] And I think that's at a more than a provincial level
[1:48:16] to kind of change those laws there.
[1:48:21] Okay, thank you very much.
[1:48:24] Okay, thank you Chief Superintendent Palmer.
[1:48:27] The report has been moved in second aid.
[1:48:30] I'll call it to question.
[1:48:32] Although it's approved.
[1:48:34] Opposed.
[1:48:36] Thank you.
[1:48:37] And so next we have a 7.4.
[1:48:41] This report is providing the Bernabey Fire Department status update.
[1:48:45] Available to the end of July 2026.
[1:48:48] This is the fire chief of anything out of this time.
[1:48:52] Thank you, Chair.
[1:48:52] This is a report on the Burry Fire Department from August 25, July 26,
[1:48:59] I'll be half of the fire chief.
[1:49:01] You have the report, what is to a few highlights.
[1:49:04] Major incidences through the period recently.
[1:49:08] We've seen a few structure fires, bushing grass fire, we also provided mutual aid to
[1:49:14] a new west who had a significant fire in their city.
[1:49:17] I can report that our new Fire Detection camera system did detect all these fires.
[1:49:27] Oh, sure, sure, sure again.
[1:49:30] Another highlight is our suppression division statistics.
[1:49:34] Currently, we are experiencing about 400 more calls annually than we did last year.
[1:49:41] And this trend is slowly creeping up throughout the months as we reach the end of the year for 2026.
[1:49:50] We've seen an increase in building fires as the density of the city increases.
[1:49:55] And the number multi residential unit and commercial buildings increase.
[1:50:01] Increase and fire events typically experience through our holiday season and with our winter months as residents are often home.
[1:50:09] more often in the fallow winter.
[1:50:14] We've also seen an increase in bushing grass fires and wild
[1:50:17] land fires recently due to the dry effects of climate change. And our city spaces have been notable
[1:50:25] within our parklands. The dry wildlands season now begins earlier in April and extends usually
[1:50:32] to October.
[1:50:37] That is for the report. The fire chief would like me to also highlight the
[1:50:43] that we are coming up to Halloween soon and anyone using fireworks must understand that it is prohibited
[1:50:52] within city property and the use of firecrackers are also prohibited. For children it's a busy time
[1:50:59] for our firefighters and we want to make sure that everyone is safe so if you are wearing a mask
[1:51:04] make sure that you are able to see the landscape and without it being blocked. Also be mindful of any
[1:51:17] Halloween candy we asked parents to definitely keep an eye on children if they're using
[1:51:22] Halloween candy for obvious choking hazards. So please be aware around that time here.
[1:51:29] Thank you very much.
[1:51:31] Okay, thank you very much.
[1:51:33] Will someone please move a motion to receive the report for information?
[1:51:38] Thank you.
[1:51:39] And do I have a seconder?
[1:51:41] Thank you.
[1:51:43] And I see Councillor Lee.
[1:51:46] Thank you, Chair.
[1:51:48] Through you and my question is on the increase of course over the last year.
[1:51:53] How many are we related and how many are we health related?
[1:51:59] We have the increase in far-laden calls and our emergency, our medical emergency calls are
[1:52:06] seem to be steady throughout the year, but we could get this to Texas for you to have that
[1:52:14] per incident or per event if you like.
[1:52:17] Yeah, okay.
[1:52:19] Yeah, that would be interesting.
[1:52:20] Thanks.
[1:52:22] Thank you very much.
[1:52:26] Okay, so it's been moved and seconded.
[1:52:28] All those in favor?
[1:52:30] Any opposed? Thank you. So, next, we have a 7.5. So, we have received C-sacrote ports from district 1 for information. Does the district have anything added this time?
[1:52:48] Okay, thank you. We'll someone please move a motion to receive the C-sacrote port.
[1:52:56] Thank you, and seconder. Great. All those in favour? Any opposed, carried?
[1:53:00] E number eight is correspondence. So we have this following item of course
[1:53:07] bondage, which appeared in the August 25, 2026 council correspondence in public
[1:53:14] notice submission package and it is advocating for safer streets in North
[1:53:18] Bernabey neighborhoods, Albert Street Hastings Street and Pender Street.
[1:53:23] Does staff have anything to add at this time?
[1:53:28] So, through the chair, we at the RCPA become aware of the concerns there.
[1:53:37] I'm just the concerns here is because of constructions that's happening on Hastings Street,
[1:53:42] while the traffic is being diverted through either through Google Maps or directions,
[1:53:46] or signage to go to the Ancillary Streets, so Pender, Union,
[1:53:50] and so there's seen an increase volume of traffic in those areas.
[1:53:54] And then, and because of that, we're seeing, there's a concern about rising speed of traffic in there and some collisions and stuff.
[1:54:03] So, as a result of that, we draw traffic services, has been doing some enforcement action in the area, just to assess the traffic volume and the concerns there.
[1:54:13] And so, the last two weeks, we've run some operations in that area, they're just to slow drivers down.
[1:54:18] We've been a communication with the General Manager and a public safety as well as engineering
[1:54:23] and to look at other hardening measures there, whether it's viable for tree calming measures
[1:54:30] or that so. But yeah, I can understand the concerns of the community there and so we're going to
[1:54:50] So thank you and yes so we're fully aware of the requested area here and we're working closely
[1:54:57] with RCMP as has been mentioned already to develop some strategies to mitigate these issues.
[1:55:03] I understand there's still following some active investigation for the most recent incident.
[1:55:07] So once those are available then we'll definitely be working with them on those.
[1:55:11] Following that we are also aware of the recent motion from council to help us look into this entire northburner be area.
[1:55:18] and so we'll be following up with our findings from there as well.
[1:55:23] Definitely we'll connect with the writer on the findings once we have that available.
[1:55:27] Okay, great. Yeah, thank you so much.
[1:55:29] Thank you for mentioning the motion.
[1:55:31] I believe by Councillor Tetro, our last Councillor Neese,
[1:55:35] certainly it is something that we're looking at.
[1:55:37] And thank you to staff for the added information.
[1:55:40] I see you representative for it.
[1:55:43] I'm going to contact the writer about both prongs of that, but it appears that that's happening.
[1:55:55] Okay, great. Thank you so much. Okay, and so with that, we're at 9 other business.
[1:56:03] I just want to make like a short comment, so I appreciate the delegations that we had earlier,
[1:56:10] and the action system and we'll be taking in which you out to the three that presented.
[1:56:21] I also wanted to mention that some of the issues that are brought to us for consideration are complex.
[1:56:30] And, you know, they hadn't deployed, for example, the last one that was raised, concerning the red problem.
[1:56:37] And I just wanted to say that I think that those are, again, very complex issues and not necessarily ones that can be attributed to a particular community or to a particular place.
[1:56:49] So I appreciate that a staff will reach out and continue to dialogue with residents as they come forward with that in mind.
[1:56:57] Thank you.
[1:56:57] And so number 10, can I have a motion to join the September 3rd, 2026 public safety committee meeting at 655 p.m.
[1:57:09] Do I have a seconder?
[1:57:12] Okay, and all those in favor.
[1:57:15] Any opposed?
[1:57:16] Okay, thank you very much to the committee members, staff and public core watching life.