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If we could please mark her down as

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excused.

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We have minutes to approve.

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The first order of business is the approval of the following minutes. City council budget workshop May 30, 630 p.m. City council budget workshop June 5, 630 p.m. City council regularly meeting June 7, 630 p.m.

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want to wait or move by the Vice President or the approval of the

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Minister, one through wait and supported by Councilman Martin Bianco.

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Do any discussion on the minutes?

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Yes, have it.

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Next we will move into Administrative Report.

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Is there Administrative Report?

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Yes, Mr. President, I'm here on behalf of the Mayor tonight.

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And really all I have is we can go through the agenda, you'll see items 2 and 3, attorney billing, item 4.

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Mr. Saturday is here to speak about that.

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The item 5 is the part of the purchase agreement that we had in regard to burdened estates.

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The VIP holdings had a first-order refusal on that.

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They're exercising, they're attempting to exercise that,

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on the particular parcel mentioned.

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I can answer any questions from Council discussion.

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And the number six is the franchise ordinance

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with consumers energy.

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You passed that once before.

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There were some errors with consumers,

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and so consumers is asking you to re-approve this.

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there are no substantive changes, but there are some minor changes in wording.

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And that's all I have.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next we'll move in committee reports.

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Any committee's to report?

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Mr. Smith.

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the firm price mission gap last week, and a couple things on that.

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Ask the administration, remember, about a lot of users out.

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There's a central business system, or there's about three things that are all,

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you know, expecting it to be on the agenda that's not for ever reason.

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But with a being so long, I've asked the administration to try to get that to you, you know, hopefully we can advance and get to both for it.

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I'm sure you're going to request me.

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I think today is paying commission.

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We're really great job with it.

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But I'm sure you're going to want to work the other half time.

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And I guess we'll need this week.

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So I just wanted to set that up there for the record.

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The second thing is, I've been given permission to use the name, I've been a bird.

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I also have the same French mission meeting, Kevin brought up, and I wanted to afford

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to the council for its ops and use.

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Somewhere to what we do here, the point mission share has to underneath me

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for the importance of the way some of what you do.

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That's what we have there.

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And I'd like to, and I give it to Kevin,

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I think we should make a,

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no doubt that it's a ceremonial thing,

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but maybe we should end our stipend for the person that

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here's the chair of the paint commission

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and it gives the consideration for the building as well.

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But there's people there.

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They're not around.

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Who wants to be, who wants to be chair?

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No, I don't want to.

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Because it's all there's to work.

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So I think it could be something we can look at

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And I'm all, now, there's something to say,

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hey, we appreciate what you're doing for the city

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and we realize that you're doing some work.

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So I wanted to throw that out there tonight,

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and see if the rest of them come up and talk about that.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Thank you, Mr. Smith.

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And you would also include the parks and racking on that, also?

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's commission also.

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We're talking 10 bucks.

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We're talking 20 bucks.

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Why do people want to be chairs and vice-kids?

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There's all of you just don't work.

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Thank you, sir.

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Anything else on the committee reports?

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Mr. Wells.

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I'm going to be a heads up.

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I'm having a meeting with Mr. Slattery Thursday on our LED committee.

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We're going to start getting rolling on that.

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So, and I and the people from RSC are going to meet Thursday morning.

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And then the next week, we'll have another meeting.

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And then we'll have a meeting of our committee together.

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Thank you sir, any more committees to report

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Mr. Martin, do you get a chance to look over that ordinance that I emailed you?

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I did not.

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If you want to set a legislative meeting with that.

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Yeah, the first and next month.

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I'll set the meeting and I'll try to do it.

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This is expeditiously as we can.

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Thank you sir.

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Thank you.

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We'll move to audience participation, now it's time to set aside from members of the audience to address the Burton City Council.

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I would ask each individual to give their name and address for the record.

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Limit your comments at three minutes, and speak on top extra main to city business.

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Any one wish an address to come?

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Yes, ma'am.

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The name of the Deborah Jackson.

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I live at third.

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Will that microphone a little closer to you?

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My name is Deborah Jackson. I live at 1361 Wells. I've lived in Burton, Michigan, my entire life.

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I have made complaints about things going on. There's been driveways, part, heaven, call the police,

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cars, parked right up to the intersection, looking like junkyards, a garbage dump across the street,

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complaints have been filed. Letters have been mailed to the mayor, and I'm getting no response.

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If that's the time to stuff you want in Burton, Burton's going to be going down hill just

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like it's going.

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But if it's being reported, we need somebody to help back us up.

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It's not just me.

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It's people in the whole area that are having problems with the same people in the repeat

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offenders.

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But things are the code they're not being enforced.

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Right now you can go to 1361, Carmen.

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There's a junk motorcycle black in the sidewalk.

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I thought that was for kids to get back and forth to school, but nothing will be done.

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Why?

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Can anybody answer me that?

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Anyone else? Yes, sir.

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Jerry Cross.

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I live up in, uh,

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John C. Township.

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I'm just here to introduce myself.

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I'm running for Genesee County Commissioner.

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I won the primary, so I'll be going up against Ellen.

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Just one let you know if you want to get hold of me discuss any issues or anything

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I'm here. I can give you my card after the meeting we get your address for the record

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Please G3426 branch road and that's infant

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Anyone else was address the council?

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Yes, they're in the back

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Excuse ten seventy-two forest. I don't number three

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Bernie Billing that has to concern with the city clerk

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How many more dollars of mine and the citizens of the city of Burton are we going to spend

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to resolve this issue?

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The English and the Senate and the letter here part a month ago, said that we have a perfectly

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capable person here that can do that job.

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Now, for sure, you all know whom talking about is very clear and stating that she was well

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educated and field.

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She can handle elections.

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Why are we giving her this position?

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Why are we still going around and around on this issue?

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First, I think we spent enough of our taxpayers money on this issue.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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We're in a dress council.

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Anyone else?

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Seeing none, we'll close audience participation.

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And move in a council discussion.

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Anything for the council?

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Present for you?

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Mr. Smith.

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Well, answers, I can tell you what's happened to date.

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I just recently was brought to my attention about this situation.

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I've had some conversations both internally,

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and with the code enforcer and actually in Mr. Wells,

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called me about the situation as well.

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So, I went today and had pulled up a violation summary.

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She's correct, there definitely was a problem, there was a complaint.

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The official complaint was filed on 712 of 18, and it says junk vehicles and or junk

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in debris, all vehicles must be plated, operable, and not an approved driveway surface in 10

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days.

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any vehicle in violation will be towed.

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Further, it goes down to say on 716 of 18, put the

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10 day notice in a door with no grasses is not in a, grasses, not in a proof surface. Any

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vehicles in violation will be towed on 726 of 18 at your expense. We'll return on 726 of

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So there was some movement according to the notes that, you know, shovel some things

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around, got rid of a few vehicles, moved them around, the ones that, and I'm only going

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by what I have here, but what Frank tells me is, and then it goes on to say, he tagged

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seven vehicles to be towed on eight-three, when he went back they still weren't either plated

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or in an appropriate place.

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It goes on to say on 8 3 of 18, Mr. Schaefer came into the DPW

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on 8 2 of 18, and asked for an extension.

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All vehicles are off the grass, and all plates are updated

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on the vehicles.

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Ask for a 10 day extension to remove.

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I'm taking this to the Volkswagen VW, check back on 8 13 of 18.

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On 1813, Mr. Schaefer came into the D.P.W. to get a permit for a six-foot-high privacy

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fence.

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I spoke with him and told him that he had to get the car off the grass immediately.

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And the improper, incomparable vehicle must be put in the garage.

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He said he would have had it done today, on 1814, a 14 draw by in the morning.

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He had three cars in the approach of the driveway.

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There was still some junk in the yard, but he had eight to nine bags of yard waste and a curb line full of garbage for the garbage of end to pick up.

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I wrote a ticket to give Mr. Shafer.

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He came into the office and hammered told him he could not park his vehicles there because they blocked the view.

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and had to get them out of all the junk out of the right away.

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By today, on 815, 815, all vehicles that are left on the property are plated and operable

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and are on an approved driveway surface.

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The junk has been cleaned up.

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Leave the complaint open until the fence has been completed.

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Check again in 10 days on 825 of 18.

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So that's where we're at, every time we've been there, apparently Frank said he was a little

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slow to get moving, he finally did start to move some stuff around, got rid of some vehicles,

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put one or two that he said he was working on in his garage, according to this, and I'm just

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getting briefed on this, and the other ones were on an approved surface and Frank checked

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them for tags, and that they were operable, he had to show them that they were operable

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and tagged in an appropriate location.

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He asked, now the fence wasn't a requirement on our part,

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but he did say he was going to put a privacy fence around his yard,

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came in and pulled a fence permit.

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Today, I don't know if that's done yet,

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but he did get a fence permit to put a privacy fence

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around the remaining things.

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So in Frank's estimation, from what I'm gathered,

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based on this document and what the conversation,

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he had made some improvements.

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He's still got a ways to go, but he is making improvements slowly.

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I don't know, I can only tell you what I've been briefed on in what the document is here for me today on those dates.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Mr. President, Mr. Chairman, good evening. Glad you're here because you're the man I want to talk to.

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Good evening, council. The last legislative meeting we had, the team approved me giving you the proposed salary ranges for the charter five.

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that's true. Two years old, yes, you were going to take him back and

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administration had not had a chance to look at those and you had some

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different peer groups that I had, I had some dated ones, but I think

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they were directionally correct, I just wonder how we're

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dressing on the review and your input on that.

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You would also wanted some additional information so that we were

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preparing benefits and other things.

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I didn't.

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I don't think we actually approved that.

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I think it was just a salary part because some of this stuff when you have different

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entities, then you open up a real trickbag because people have been given benefits and

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lieu of salary increases and I think we need to stick just with the salary and go from

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that's what I think we need to do. Okay, I know we were still working on that other

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information and that's why we haven't brought it out. I didn't answer that. I'd like to

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have that Ocellary Range's Mr. Martin Bianco has said that he's going to be calling a

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legislative meeting first month, sir. First of the month? Yes. You could have. Absolutely.

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We'll have that. We'll be on that agenda also. Mr. Martin Bianco. That's appreciated. Yes, sir.

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Okay, next item, about a month ago, I asked to have the update of the five-year forecast,

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including both enterprise funds we spent, but it had been a money on software, and we've

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finalized the budget, made all the changes, they need to be plugged in and again, I would

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hope at a more reasonable time than I asked last year to be eight months to get it, I hope

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get it sooner than that. So, there's another formal request on the five-year forecast, including

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both enterprise funds. Last but not least, I don't know exactly the date, but it was right

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after the first year, Plant and Rand gave us a report on an internal review. And at that time,

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the council set a six-month window for them to come back and give us an update report because

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they were going to do that. I think we pass the six months.

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Over second, seven p.m. Okay, perfect.

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You know that sounds like tonight. Okay, perfect.

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Okay, you get out of that one.

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So you only have two to deal with.

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Thank you, Mr. Hammond.

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Thank you, Mr. O'Keefe.

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Any more council discussion?

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Mr. Wells.

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Just want to let Mr. Jackson and other people that are commenting on the city council,

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We

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have a big turnover at the city of Burton right now and I know you can't do anything about it.

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Obviously we can't either.

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We're running out of skeleton crew and our priorities right now are making sure our roads are fixed.

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So we're moving away from your house and the right direction.

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Our water is coming into your house and the right direction.

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Police are out there and if you just have some patience with us,

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And listen, you were very patient, and thank you for the call, and the conversation and

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for showing up tonight because that's the final word right there.

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You came, you told us, it's like you said you would, most people don't do that.

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They'll complain, they'll complain, they'll complain, they don't come forward and say, hey,

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thanks for taking care of it.

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We got a lot going on here in the city right now.

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and Mr. Abbey's slatteries hands are overflowing,

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and honestly they're doing a good job with what they've got to work with.

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So just bear with us, bear with us.

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We can just take care of, and we'll do it the right way.

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We'll always do the right thing, and the end.

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So just want to let you know that, and anybody else that's out there.

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We're trying to get some more people involved and try some people,

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but they gotta be the right people.

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where we can't just hire a Willie Nellie and hope it works out.

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So hang in there.

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Thank you, Ms. President.

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You, Mr. Wells, Amanda.

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That ordinance that you wrote up for the newspapers,

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could you forward that on to the clerk's office?

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So, Mr. Mark Bianco causes legislative meeting

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that she can forward it to the legislative committee?

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I certainly will.

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If I haven't, I believe I sent it to the Mayor's office

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But I will certainly send out for that to you, Ms. Bixby.

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Okay. Thank you.

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We're talking about junk cars.

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Ellen Street in

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between Grand Travers

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and Sagittal Street.

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Don't have the address.

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It's here in Mississippi. There's like 20 or 30 cars in the Shard.

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And that's no exaggeration.

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Read me?

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Real close.

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Is there that many there?

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What can we do about it?

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As long as you're on top of it, I'm

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good.

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I hope Amanda plugs your ears, but you know attorneys are in their opinions.

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I'm

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not trying to decide it over the years,

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but it's a model that's all of the facts,

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but you now have doesn't necessarily need it,

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but it's only

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a question.

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Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Jackson, if you get with Mr. Flattery at the end,

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Mr. Abby in the middle, or you have a Mr. Hammond,

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right there, one of them three can help you.

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And actually Mr. Hammond's probably your best bet.

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He makes things happen.

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Any more council discussion?

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It's just math.

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Give us a lot of thought.

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I believe we need to reach this lesson.

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We all know there was a mystery in it between administration and the council on the budget issue.

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And also there's a combination of things between the core, the labor chain,

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with country negotiations.

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We've been spending a lot of money from the legal $10,000 here

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$10,000 in the United States.

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And I do feel we owe the residents and accountability

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as to how this money being spent.

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Right now, I couldn't tell you what was cost of that budget issue.

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And I think we owe that to the residents to explain it.

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We'll have to be held a combo for action, both the administration and the council.

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Two parties, people with that agreement, the disagreement.

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So we shouldn't know what that cost us.

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And the residents shouldn't know.

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And I can't give them an answer right now.

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The other thing is, is we, that's hopefully a one-time issue.

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We spend a lot of money on legal, and I was looking again at the legal expense of this again, and not to change that, but no one knows, no one renews what that cost us, and that make it go back into the budget.

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And once you find out, look, if it's a one-time thing, we don't know where it is.

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That's something you don't want to do.

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I just missed it somehow.

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I'd like to ask the administration to please provide me

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or the counsel of the bill so I can pull all up

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and I can share with the residents.

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For all, we're all guilty.

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The administration of the guilty.

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The counsel of the guilty, we couldn't come to a

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for that one. We owe it to these people, but that cost. I'm going to ask the administration.

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It's a meeting in the Council to read that.

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It's providing me with the invoices and for government and green filter.

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It's like an add it all up, and now share it with the Council.

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They should go out there.

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Then we should know what we don't have.

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Those invoices are all available.

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I'm asking you to provide them to the public.

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Sure, I'm going to go to the public with the invoices going back

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to the controllers office as well.

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The start of the litigation to the end, the copies of it.

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You also want the suit building as well?

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It's being federal and dollars.

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Because you need to subtract one.

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We know that both.

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It's possible we don't know how much this impact

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with this litigation one.

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So it just bells are being green for that.

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But you only want it as it applies to the litigation

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involving the mayor over the budget.

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For example, what's on under tonight?

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Nothing to do with litigation.

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Yeah.

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No, no.

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I'm talking about the bells or bell, but it's on under tonight.

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Yeah, no.

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That's a different thing.

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That's just a torture.

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That's what's been clerk related.

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He's talking about the lawsuit, the mayor filed against the council.

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I'm saying, I'm not saying blame, but these people should know what they're called.

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We should know what they're called.

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You don't know?

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I disagree that you don't know, but we can certainly provide that information.

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I haven't seen you voices, but I'm sure we've approved them.

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But I don't where they're at that.

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I think they were putting them in some other stuff.

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So I'm looking for the invoices.

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I'm going to read the letter.

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Okay.

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I'm going to start.

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And for teens to the budget.

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It's a grievance.

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So we ought to be how accountable to the residents.

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I just, that's fine.

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I just disagree with the premise that we're not,

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that they weren't available.

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Well, I may ask you, you need to know, I guess to me that if you were, I may ask you

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for that.

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How about what line item they were paid out of?

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I was just more interested in seeing, you've been adding 10,000 here, 10,000 there, and I don't

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know how much of what?

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Yeah, just to be clear, we can go back and look at the record.

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I don't think we've been adding 10,000 here and there for the bells or the green bell or bills.

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But we don't know that all we know is we start out for the budget of $60,000.

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I could think of these $2,000 increase.

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So that's $80,000.

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Okay.

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I don't want to be labor to this.

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I'll get you the information.

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You guys are comfortable.

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Fine.

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But I have the answer.

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Well, no, I agree with you.

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I think we need to see that.

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I do have a question.

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If I'm in a surprise.

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Sure.

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Can I miss your vice president?

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I have number three in here specifically breaks out.

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Looks like Bowser and council president for attorney billing.

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So I guess my question referencing this one is when it came to.

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I asked several times.

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How come that wasn't appeared on the agenda? How come we were voting on that?

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So how come this one would appear and to be approved by council,

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But when all that stuff was going out of a green

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for other personal attorney of the mayor's,

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that would never show up on the agenda.

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Can you explain the differences to me?

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Why one would appear one would?

420
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Sure.

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The bells are bill was on there.

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There's a courtesy to counsel

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because counsel hired Mr. Bellzer,

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the mayor hired Mr. Greenfeller

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and we were involved in this.

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Regulation, and so those determination made that didn't need to come before council. In addition, with regard to this billing specifically, if you

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made that determination.

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The mayor did.

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July 6 of 2017, when you hired Mr. Bellzer,

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you hired Mr. Bellzer and I'm

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going to see if I can get the action item read to you specifically. Most in the hire

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Attorney Jack Bellzer to represent the Burton City Council in any litigation in which the

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city attorney cannot represent the council due to conflict of interest. So in regard to

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These, you know, this is your call, not ours, but in regard to this particular building, for consultations with the Council present reference the issue with the cleric, I don't believe there was any question of there ever being a conflict of interest.

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In fact, the court gave an opinion, I'm sorry, the city attorney gave an opinion on the cleric's office.

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So certainly there was no conflict of interest there, you also had an opinion from Mr.

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Ledford.

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So I'm not sure that that billing, and again, this is Council's call, but I'm not sure

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that that billing was actually, Mr. Belles was actually even authorized under your authorizing

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action in July of 2017.

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It's made sense, I mean, but in all fairness, our attorney also gives an opinion on the budget issue to

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we ended up going all the way up, heels court on and so.

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But you took action to do that.

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And then I know I understand what you're reading.

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Each year again.

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We got the first bills, we're on 25,000 dollars at the very start.

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Then we never saw another bill.

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And green thought saw.

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I have no idea.

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What it was.

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We got the bells themselves.

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It's like the toll between dollars and green thought.

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We have to fill that bill to get it.

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If I remember correctly,

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we forgot to do that.

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We should know what the cost was,

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so these people can know.

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We should know.

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But by the regions, I have to transfer it to the region.

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Nobody at this table or the mayor object to that,

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and to you having access to any invoices for any billpages.

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I certainly have that right.

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Well, that's an expected meeting.

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The time frame.

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Thor will get into you by the next meeting.

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Thank you.

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I think we'd all like copies of that.

468
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Yeah.

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They all should know.

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They're all gone.

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They all should know.

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We'll make them available.

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Any more calls to discussion?

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Yeah.

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One more thing, Mr. President.

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We had a nice presentation a couple of weeks ago about water rate studies.

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And during that presentation it was alluded to $1.1 million in the red in the water department.

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And it happened to coincide with the water lines that we put in over off of Hempel Road.

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Do you have anything from the state of Michigan that said that they were going to pass back?

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No, what I do have is they're not going to pay us back for door-to-door water, but if I read the letter correctly.

481
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Actually, you can read that thing, so I have it.

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I can set some light on the situation on shine and monomony, if that's essentially what we're talking about.

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So we had a meeting with several lawmakers, including Senator Antoneck, Representative, a representative from Pam Ferris's office, and Representative Nile, I think that comes for everyone who is there.

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We have another meeting, the Mayor and I on Wednesday, in Lansing, with state treasurer Nick

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Corey to address this issue,

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and some other folks coming, I can't remember who I'm right

487
00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:03,680
on Nick Corey, he'll be there, and we're continuing to push to get that reimbursement, or

488
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,080
at least some of it.

489
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,500
And

490
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:10,360
I guess the crux of my question is,

491
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:16,020
how could you guys avoid it to do that job if

492
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:19,740
you didn't have something in writing from the state to begin well?

493
00:35:20,020 --> 00:35:22,260
Well, our residents were drinking poison.

494
00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:30,400
And our number one priority is council people who is the safety and welfare of our residents.

495
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:38,120
So we had to do whatever it took to take the poison out of their house and give them such a clean

496
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,560
water.

497
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:47,300
And they were getting clean water from the state, this part of being on the water line, and then the water line reconnected, ran water there.

498
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:57,100
And I agree that I wanted them hooked up to the Burton water line, so we could, you know, they should be a part of Burton water line, they're a Burton customers.

499
00:35:58,780 --> 00:36:07,580
But until you knew you were going to get, until you had something in writing that you were going to get $1.1 million back, I don't know how you could have forward with that project.

500
00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:10,100
I get just mind-blowing to me.

501
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,660
When it comes to poisoning children,

502
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,340
people not being able to bathe in their own homes,

503
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,200
we have some tough choices to bathe.

504
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:23,520
We all, seven of us at the time, agreed

505
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,240
that we need to do something.

506
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,100
But we did it.

507
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:28,800
Yeah, we did it.

508
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,240
Why didn't you, I mean, if that was truly the case,

509
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:42,720
Why would the state not have just come forward and say, hey, we're going to, oh, we were told we was going to get everything flint got.

510
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,900
But flint didn't offer door to door, water deliveries.

511
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,700
That's why we're not getting paid back from that.

512
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,060
We may get paid back for the rest of it.

513
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:01,340
Well, we did get some of the money back for the door to door deliveries and some of the time that we put in.

514
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,900
But you're right, the governor's office assured us that we would be included.

515
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:14,020
Not just the city of Burton, but all effected a resonance when they redress the issues in the costs,

516
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:23,780
you know, associated with it in Flint, that if you will, the greater Flint area to include Burton and other communities would be part of that settlement.

517
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:25,600
And that's what we're fighting for.

518
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:31,180
I'm still going to take some work, but I'm reasonably confident that we have the right players in the room.

519
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:36,360
and then meeting with the State Treasurer, I think will be helpful as you know, also happens

520
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,940
to hail from Burton.

521
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:40,780
Right.

522
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,200
Yes.

523
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:42,960
Yes.

524
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:43,300
Yes, yes.

525
00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:51,320
I'd like to get some updates on that, Mr. Hammond, as you get them, I'd like to see what's

526
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,360
going on down there.

527
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:57,580
I'm going to talk to Mr. Ann and H. myself and see if he can push for, I mean, we can't

528
00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:59,700
afford to give away 1.1 million dollars.

529
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:00,480
Right.

530
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,120
And I think anybody, you know, any member of the council, we would welcome any input or any

531
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:13,160
influence that you can exert with, any of our lawmakers to help get us that money.

532
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:14,760
We had to do it over again today.

533
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,200
I would vote the exact same way.

534
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:21,200
You know, we couldn't afford not to give up on one of them, so you've heard the trip back.

535
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:30,420
Oh, there was a conversation, like you just said, Mr. Haven, that the state would inferred

536
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:35,620
for the reimbursement program, everything else for it, and whether it was in writing or not,

537
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:41,120
there was some kind of correspondence that was read to us about the state backing us, and everything else.

538
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:43,560
Obviously, we had to check in the end or anything like that.

539
00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:46,820
But then we went ahead and moved forward with project and all of the states.

540
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,220
What keep backing out of what they said they would do for us?

541
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:59,980
100% correct, and there were things in writing, and I can tell you that Mr. Bernard from the governor's office,

542
00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:06,520
and others at the state level, including our state lawmakers, have a thick packet of the correspondence

543
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,820
between the administration.

544
00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:18,840
We did use some CDBG money for that also, didn't we?

545
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:22,080
The 135,000, wasn't it?

546
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:22,860
Yes.

547
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:24,560
Something like that.

548
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,840
The real issue is, you guys should have known by now, not to trust politicians.

549
00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:33,760
It's spreading.

550
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,180
Get it right in.

551
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:35,980
Have them sign it.

552
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Stamp it.

553
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,340
Get it down.

554
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Payment on it.

555
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,120
It's a little key.

556
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:44,880
And then your butts are covered.

557
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,580
I agree with the comments that you made.

558
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:52,360
You know, again, today versus when we pass this is a whole different story.

559
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160
And especially all our phones are ringing off the hall.

560
00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:57,740
People were here.

561
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,360
And again, it was the right thing to do at the right time.

562
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,040
What I do it the same way today.

563
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,400
I think I would.

564
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,620
However, I did, if you remember,

565
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,820
voice a concern that Flint seems to be getting all the limelight

566
00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:15,160
on this thing, and again, I just hope that, you know,

567
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,860
if we do this, that we're not forgotten about,

568
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:20,720
and if you remember, Madam Attorney, I spoke to you

569
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,800
about the liability that these folks are supposedly

570
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,520
going to be protected years from now, especially children,

571
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:31,240
if they have some problems or something like that.

572
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,360
That's the part I was concerned about.

573
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:35,160
I'm still concerned about that.

574
00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:38,220
But I think you guys are on the right course.

575
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:42,320
I think play nice right now and try to go to the right people,

576
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:43,460
and I think you're doing that.

577
00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:47,100
However, at the end game, if we don't get this,

578
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:49,760
I think we need to go to the press and say,

579
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:53,400
hey, Burton Michigan is on the same map as Flint,

580
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,520
Michigan is, and we're a very small community

581
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
that has some definitely some financial difficulties.

582
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,560
and we popped a million one to fix our neighborhood up that had to be fixed.

583
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,980
There was no question about that, and now we're being hung out to dry.

584
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:17,080
So I think I would play nice now, but when we get to that point where things aren't going

585
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,920
the way we think they should be, I think that's when we take the gloves off.

586
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,620
Well, so let me talk about taking the gloves off briefly.

587
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:31,240
So we made a very clear to the Gen. C county delegation that we want to play a nice on this.

588
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:39,360
We want to explain to the state that there was a very, what in the best, in the best frame

589
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,940
that was a misunderstanding, the letter that we got, denying us this money said that, well,

590
00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:52,840
you guys have planned to do it anyway as part of the DWF program. That is absolutely false.

591
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,780
We made that very, very clear.

592
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,940
We couldn't have done it.

593
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,720
It wasn't our infrastructure to begin with.

594
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640
In terms of being nice and then playing hardball,

595
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,940
we also made it clear to the delegation that we'd like

596
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,840
to do it through them this way if possible.

597
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,480
That's why we got the meeting with Treasure Curry.

598
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,780
However, we also made it clear that there are other things

599
00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:20,340
on the table, including leveraging the media,

600
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:32,940
And including possible litigation, if it came to that, we are not very yet, but those are certainly things that are in our, in our, in our, you know, in our ability to exercise.

601
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,740
On your right on track.

602
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:38,800
Thank you, Mr. O'Keefe.

603
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,840
Anything else from the council?

604
00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:44,420
Hearing none, we'll move into council action.

605
00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:52,180
Item one, moving author as attorney billing Doyle, 731-2018,

606
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,140
moved by the vice president supported by Constance Smith.

607
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:57,260
Any discussion?

608
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,620
All the role, please.

609
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,420
Mr. Halskins, Mr. Halskins.

610
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Yes. Mr. Martin Mianko.

611
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,340
Yes. Mr. Wells.

612
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:06,600
Yes. Mr. O'Keefe.

613
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:07,740
Yes. Mr. Smith.

614
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:08,900
Yes. Motion carried.

615
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,140
Item two, moving author as payment to attorney billing and misoode.

616
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,520
The Vice President.

617
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Or, where do my consmithsmiths any discussion?

618
00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:21,180
Other roll, please.

619
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:23,400
Mr. House, Ms.

620
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:23,860
Mr. Heffner.

621
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Mr. Martin Mianko.

622
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,640
Mr. Wells.

623
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:28,660
Mr. Keyes.

624
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,440
Yes.

625
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,020
Mr. Smith.

626
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,680
Motion carried.

627
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:33,060
Item three.

628
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:34,920
Moving on to our 30-20-building check bales.

629
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,920
July 2018.

630
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,720
The amount of $568.75.

631
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:42,080
Or,

632
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,920
by the Vice President supported by Councilman Smith, any discussion?

633
00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:46,480
Mr. President.

634
00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:47,740
Mr. Martin Bianca.

635
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:54,000
I offer an amendment because it is printed in the record that we strike the area of the

636
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,540
parenthetical notation that discussed what the consultations with the Council President were

637
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:00,000
all about.

638
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:04,000
And one of the reasons for that is, you don't see that on any other attorney billing that

639
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,240
we've got, but it appears to me that the administration is singly now at the Council

640
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:16,540
President for exercising what is necessarily his authority and issues of temporal concern.

641
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:21,640
And I think we all had to agree that that had to be done and, you know, it's just

642
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,700
like if you don't like somebody's opinion, you're going to go get another one just to double

643
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:26,720
check on yourself.

644
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:34,320
So I would move that amendment to strike from the record that parenthetical notation that

645
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,800
was made.

646
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,700
Is there support?

647
00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:40,960
Supported motion to strike the

648
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:47,920
July teen consultation of council president by Mr. Martin Bianco has been supported by Mr.

649
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,300
Askins.

650
00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:53,000
Any discussion on striking that portion of it?

651
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:59,560
Mr. Wells, Mr. Smith just made a small speech for a minute to go about being transparent to our

652
00:45:00,370 --> 00:45:10,550
Residents about where all this money from returning free is are gone. I, for the life of me, don't understand. How many opinions do you need on this?

653
00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:17,300
I mean, what opinion did he give you? Let's start with that.

654
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,240
I don't think we can talk about it. I don't think we can talk about it.

655
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,100
I don't think we can talk about it.

656
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:21,800
What did he tell you?

657
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:22,980
What did he tell you?

658
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:24,560
What did he tell you?

659
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:24,960
What did he tell you?

660
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,260
What did he tell you?

661
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,920
What did he tell you?

662
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,060
What I just said ending litigation you we can't talk about it that this meeting

663
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,020
litigation regarding the city clerk

664
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,440
Criminal and civil. Yeah,

665
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:48,750
let's just specifically regarding the city clerk

666
00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:51,990
What I see what's going on here?

667
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:57,590
I mean you you've got a little loophole go on where you can just you know all in the attorney you want

668
00:45:58,090 --> 00:46:00,390
That's gonna add up fast

669
00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:03,070
If you guys want to support it, go ahead.

670
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:09,190
It's very highly irregular and probably somewhat illegal.

671
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:12,850
Because he doesn't, he should speak for all the council.

672
00:46:13,410 --> 00:46:15,770
Unfortunately, Mr. Wells, I can't call all the council,

673
00:46:16,410 --> 00:46:19,490
but I was in consultation with the legislative chair

674
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:21,070
and the financial chair.

675
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:23,190
They both encouraged me to call the attorney.

676
00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:26,670
Why didn't you call him meeting for the city council,

677
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:28,310
so we can all discuss it?

678
00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:30,890
you're spending tax for your money,

679
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,500
you've already contacted Mr. Gleason, you told him

680
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:45,300
you already got a clerk, you've already contacted our attorney, Mr. Doyle, I think she gave you

681
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:49,040
pretty much the same answer, I don't know what Mr. Bellzer would tell you that was different.

682
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,040
You gave me that answer, Mr. Gleason said that they had no help to offer us, you said you

683
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,680
already got a certified clerk, go ahead and use her, you might want to read the whole letter.

684
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,340
I did.

685
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,000
I did.

686
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:03,080
The bottom of the set at this time that County had no help to offer us.

687
00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:04,360
Because you've got to go.

688
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,540
You have to leave your problems with their election, by the way.

689
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:07,180
No, we did.

690
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,120
Mr. President.

691
00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:11,340
Mr. O'Keefe.

692
00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:13,780
I have a different slant on this.

693
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,540
Again, when we hired Mr. Belzer, we had a motion.

694
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,940
We went through the channels we approved it.

695
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:27,280
And it was for just a specific purpose.

696
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:40,240
I think we need another motion at least a minimum that gives the authority because one person can't go out and hire an attorney and get a legal opinion.

697
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,420
None of us can.

698
00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:42,880
You're yourself included.

699
00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:47,760
Again, if you want to put a motion out there, at least we would be covered that way.

700
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,760
But I think right now we're kind of going against what, as Mr. Wells said it.

701
00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:01,780
You know, one person gets and money here among the seven of us has to be put in a motion

702
00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:05,020
as we voted upon. That's all I got to say.

703
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,620
Any more discussion? Call the roll, please.

704
00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:11,580
What are we voting on?

705
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:14,940
Item three. Mr. Mark Michael medium.

706
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,140
Oh, on the amendment to remove July 2018,

707
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:22,140
in the conversation with Council President,

708
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:25,340
we're voting on, we're moving that.

709
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:26,580
Yes, sir.

710
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Yes, sir.

711
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:29,440
See, Attorney, I mean,

712
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:32,280
would it well be your council on this?

713
00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:32,980
Is that on?

714
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:36,820
I guess I don't understand what the question is.

715
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Well, here we're Dany said, you heard where Dennis said,

716
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,360
I do believe the council president was right.

717
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,820
He's doing his due diligence.

718
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,740
We had at the council meeting, we thought we had

719
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:55,560
agreed you were here Dennis and we could you were directed to do some course

720
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:02,500
finance to the state and to the county so but we didn't do a vote on it so but

721
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:07,520
we all left thinking that was going to happen then after the fact that did not

722
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,900
happen so the council president then said hey we this is what we had asked

723
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:18,020
to have done and we thought we did so where we where we had do we need to do

724
00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:26,680
something here that do vote or on with Dennis said, or do we do with this or as it is?

725
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:27,380
Yes.

726
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:31,200
With regard to Mr. Bell's or the ultimate question is, is he still retained for that particular

727
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,700
purpose?

728
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:37,820
If you believe he is still retained for this particular purpose, then no, a vote would not

729
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:38,420
be necessary.

730
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:44,600
However, if you believe this is a separate issue, then yes, you would have to retain him again

731
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,600
for that separate issue.

732
00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:55,770
Thank you.

733
00:49:55,770 --> 00:50:01,030
My point is this, guys, we're going down a real treacherous road here.

734
00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:14,550
You may have hired Mr. Bellzer in regards to the last topic you were arguing with

735
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:18,970
the mayor about, has cost them after a lot of the nominal amount of money.

736
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:23,190
But this is a totally different topic, this is a city clerk,

737
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,560
so I mean if you're going to open

738
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:33,320
the door and you three guys are gonna make the decision for all city council. I'm totally

739
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:40,400
opposed to that and it shouldn't be that way and I think you know that. Madam attorney Mr.

740
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,220
President, yes sir. I think at this time what I'll do is I would throw my motion to go

741
00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:51,760
ahead and approve and pay this until weekend came up with a motion to make sure that Mr.

742
00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:57,220
Bellzer was retained in the right fashion with a proper motion. I would like to say this

743
00:50:57,220 --> 00:51:06,200
much that this is possible litigation. Again, and it is clarification of what we're trying

744
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,320
to understand here and it's been talked about open meetings, but clarification was more

745
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,120
not where you were here for them meetings. This isn't a big surprise to anybody except

746
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,340
for what exactly was discussed. Obviously I'm not privy to that either right now.

747
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,280
But I would be more than happy to withdraw my emotion and make a table emotion until

748
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:34,900
we can get this address on a different fashion to pay it to make sure that we, he was

749
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:42,460
retained in the right fashion. I honestly believe, from our last motion, that I believe

750
00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:48,170
that Mr. Bell's was probably retained in the right fashion on this because of this goes

751
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:52,950
on a different direction, that we have to end up in court again.

752
00:51:56,010 --> 00:51:57,890
Does anybody turn his

753
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:59,670
that motion again that he read earlier.

754
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:02,650
The motion.

755
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:05,150
What will we retain bells or the first time?

756
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:16,530
Motion is to hire attorney Jack Bellzer to represent the Burn City Council in any litigation

757
00:52:16,530 --> 00:52:21,430
in which the City Attorney cannot represent the Council due to conflict of interest.

758
00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:22,190
There you go.

759
00:52:25,860 --> 00:52:26,900
I think there's your answer.

760
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,340
So would you like to withdraw your withdrawal?

761
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,280
I would withdraw the amended.

762
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:39,820
Yeah, I will withdraw my withdrawal.

763
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,480
So, my motion was still stand.

764
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,200
I just think that there's probably going to have to come something to where this is, whether

765
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:54,240
we have the executive session with Bowser or whatever we do, we're going to do that.

766
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,180
I think exactly what was going on.

767
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:02,600
I think maybe if you might need to be explained before, some people vote on paying it.

768
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:03,600
So,

769
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,120
that would be my only, I think that if we're voting on this to pay for it, maybe

770
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,020
Council should be in the loop, why would you?

771
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,260
Would you like to have an executive session with the attorney

772
00:53:18,260 --> 00:53:18,980
Belzer?

773
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,380
Now, if we can't obtain.

774
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,820
What's the conflict of interest between you?

775
00:53:24,180 --> 00:53:25,120
Well, then disregard, I guess.

776
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,600
No, I guess I need to know what the conflict of interest is

777
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,520
with our own attorney.

778
00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:33,540
Why can't did you give an opinion on the clerk?

779
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:34,400
I think you did.

780
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,960
If this is the issue, though, as I understand it,

781
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:48,240
else is we don't know what right now what those consultations were for. If they were for

782
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:55,780
the potential litigation with regard to the city clerk by the council, then no, there

783
00:53:55,780 --> 00:54:01,160
would be a conflict. I don't know what those consultations were about, so I don't know if

784
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,080
I would have been conflicted out or not.

785
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,880
Well, it's just an interpretation of the chart, really.

786
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,040
It addresses the mayor's 30 days to name a clerk.

787
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,080
And I understand that, but that does not tell me.

788
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,100
It's a rejected it.

789
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,720
She came back and named another one.

790
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:18,080
The council rejected it.

791
00:54:18,260 --> 00:54:20,000
This could go on and on and on.

792
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,940
I don't want to see another 1.1 million dollars.

793
00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:28,260
This is the way on a clerk when it's very simple.

794
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,860
It's a very simple solution.

795
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:33,580
And part of the solution is to stop playing politics.

796
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:37,080
If you can't figure out who's going to be a clerk,

797
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:39,720
we have a certified clerk right now right there.

798
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,020
Actually we don't.

799
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,920
Here we do.

800
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:44,800
She sure is.

801
00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:46,700
She's an acting clerk, but she's certified.

802
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:49,320
She's already ran to elections.

803
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:51,960
She wasn't confirmed by the council.

804
00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:56,140
And that's not the administration's fault.

805
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,600
That's what I'm saying.

806
00:54:58,580 --> 00:55:03,820
They're following the charter, they're throwing bodies at you, you're throwing them back.

807
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,700
Do you want to name your own clerk, because that's not how the charter works.

808
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,740
The mayor names them and we either confirm or don't confirm.

809
00:55:11,860 --> 00:55:12,660
That's right.

810
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,900
The other part of the issue is, if people watch this meeting and see what's going on in this city,

811
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,700
they don't want to come here and be a clerk or anything else, we can't find suitable people

812
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:31,760
higher and different positions right now. Well, our discussion right now is on Mr.

813
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,680
Mark Bianco's amendment.

814
00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:40,810
Is there any more discussion on the amendment?

815
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:46,270
Hold a roll please. Mr. Halskins? Yes. Mr. Halskins? Yes. Mr. Halskins? Yes. Mr. Halskins? Yes. Mr.

816
00:55:46,410 --> 00:55:51,670
Mr. Martin Bianco? Yes. Mr. Wells? Oh. Mr. O'Keefe? No. Mr. Smith? Yes.

817
00:55:52,270 --> 00:55:59,550
Motion carried. Item three. We were not surprised to turn you being Jack Belzer in the amount of

818
00:55:59,550 --> 00:56:02,730
five hundred and sixty-eight dollars and seventy-five cents

819
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,980
somebody already has moved in somebody's already

820
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:16,540
supported

821
00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:17,040
got you

822
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:20,740
what's been a half hours until we did that I think so

823
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:21,200
okay

824
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,180
any more discussion

825
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,780
all the role please

826
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:25,660
Mr. Halskins

827
00:56:26,260 --> 00:56:26,740
Mr. Halskins

828
00:56:26,740 --> 00:56:26,760
Mr. Halskins

829
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Mr. Halskins

830
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,680
Mr. Halskins

831
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,320
Mr. Halskins

832
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,460
what are you calling a role on

833
00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:34,580
this is to pay the bill

834
00:56:35,830 --> 00:56:36,430
the amendment

835
00:56:36,430 --> 00:56:37,990
has no where you did that

836
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:38,670
okay

837
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:41,410
there was no motion made no support

838
00:56:41,410 --> 00:56:42,170
Yes, it was.

839
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:42,730
Yes, it was.

840
00:56:42,830 --> 00:56:45,070
Like he just said, it was about half a hour ago.

841
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:47,150
No.

842
00:56:47,470 --> 00:56:48,190
This was.

843
00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:49,370
You guys are there.

844
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:51,190
No.

845
00:56:53,230 --> 00:56:53,930
Mr. Keefe.

846
00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:54,270
No.

847
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:55,450
Mr. Smith.

848
00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:57,350
Motion carried.

849
00:56:57,710 --> 00:57:00,150
Item four, proven authorized the mayor and city clerk.

850
00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:02,750
Executed contract with royal professional services.

851
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:03,990
No, moved his rent.

852
00:57:04,790 --> 00:57:07,670
Or a councilman will keep supported by councilman Martin Bianco.

853
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:08,990
Any discussion?

854
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:10,370
Mr. President.

855
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:12,410
Through you to Mr. Slattery.

856
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:13,730
Hi, Bob.

857
00:57:15,130 --> 00:57:18,170
This is the preliminary engineering on this project.

858
00:57:18,590 --> 00:57:18,890
Yes, sir.

859
00:57:18,890 --> 00:57:22,170
It's scheduled for 2019 for the construction,

860
00:57:22,510 --> 00:57:23,210
or is it 2020?

861
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:27,070
Well, we're hoping to do that in 2019, sir.

862
00:57:27,550 --> 00:57:30,530
The State Infrastructure Bank loan has given us preliminary approval

863
00:57:30,530 --> 00:57:33,530
of our application and things are looking very good

864
00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:36,330
to be able to do that project next summer, 2019.

865
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:37,830
Very good.

866
00:57:37,930 --> 00:57:38,750
Thank you.

867
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,180
Thank you, Mr. Martin Bianco.

868
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,160
Anyone else?

869
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Council discussion here on this one.

870
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:48,020
Other roll please.

871
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:48,940
Mr. Heskins.

872
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Mr. Heskin.

873
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Mr. Heskin.

874
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,060
Yes.

875
00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:52,920
Mr. Martin Mianko.

876
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,680
Mr. Wells.

877
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:55,840
Mr. OK.

878
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,280
Yes.

879
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,060
Mr. Smith.

880
00:57:57,780 --> 00:57:58,340
Motion carried.

881
00:57:58,540 --> 00:57:59,500
Item five.

882
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,520
We've been authorised a sale of lack twenty five in person.

883
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,820
We've moved by the vice president.

884
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,780
Ordered by Councilman Smith.

885
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Any discussion?

886
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:09,120
President.

887
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Mr. Wells.

888
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,420
another one that sticks in my car.

889
00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:23,780
Me and the dollars of property were sold that the taxpayers have money into inside walks,

890
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,660
infrastructure, and so forth.

891
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:32,920
This gentleman bought some of them, I guess, gave him back to the city and now he's cheery

892
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,860
pickin' them.

893
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,620
Yes, that happens to be in my neighborhood.

894
00:58:38,740 --> 00:58:41,960
We recently, the city had to come out and mole the grass because he won't do it.

895
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,100
I was $2,000 Mr. Abby,

896
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,140
$2,000 to those lots in that neighborhood.

897
00:58:51,260 --> 00:58:56,340
I'm not sure somewhere in that neighborhood if we break it down, you have three guys

898
00:58:56,340 --> 00:59:00,200
with the equipment that we charge off for the day and a half.

899
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,280
So, actually almost two days total, first they did the first half then say now, I don't

900
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,060
know the exact breakdown, but it's better than $1,500 at least, I'm sure.

901
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:17,260
I've had to do the exact breakdown and I haven't, but we can.

902
00:59:19,850 --> 00:59:20,570
Isn't it?

903
00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,530
He has perceptively, doesn't it really almost properties correct?

904
00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:27,050
He just has the first option there.

905
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:31,850
That's true, if you recall almost three years ago,

906
00:59:33,550 --> 00:59:38,170
you approved a sale to buy malar ponds, cross creek.

907
00:59:38,610 --> 00:59:42,690
We sold three lots outright in Burton's states with the balance

908
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:50,470
giving him a over doing a three-year period of first try to refusal at this price $7,000

909
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:57,050
in some change. So he's attempting to exercise this right. And this parcel, be quite honest,

910
00:59:57,310 --> 00:59:59,630
I don't believe we really have any choice.

911
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,020
Part of the sales agreement. To me, it was a good move, right? Because we have no

912
01:00:05,020 --> 01:00:09,960
or a process is sold out. They're going for over $200,000.

913
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:14,780
We have a cross cross creek.

914
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,200
They're building their line trees. I go through those. They're close to me.

915
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:24,100
And I think for where we were three years ago, to where we are today, I think it was a phenomenon

916
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:31,180
move that the council made, we have, I'm not sure how many, how many, come in, additional

917
01:00:31,180 --> 01:00:38,200
homes are now sold in Narapond. This is substantial. It's substantial in both subdivisions.

918
01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:44,660
And these are not cheap homes, these are relatively expensive homes. Oh, they're not completely

919
01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:49,880
built out, but they're at the cost. I have to just point it out, but yes. So, you know, we technically,

920
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,500
the gentleman's Biden buyer's agreement, I think what we did was great. I had no problem with

921
01:00:55,500 --> 01:01:02,780
at all. We had lots of setting there. There's stuff that's going on and then. So I think what we did,

922
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:08,840
we have a lot more that are at homes that are now. We have families coming in, shopping in Burton.

923
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:17,000
I think what we did, the situation we are handed with where property wasn't on the city. I think we

924
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,600
did the best we could, what we had. I'm proud of it. The point I'm making here is this.

925
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:30,020
And we offered those to the residents of the city of Burton for $7,200 a lot.

926
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:32,660
I think we get to solve every one of them again.

927
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,360
You had lots of lots. We couldn't get rid of.

928
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,420
You couldn't find anybody. Everybody walked away from them.

929
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Builder walked away from the bankwalked away from them.

930
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,540
You just stopped paying the tax.

931
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,620
And we were stuck with the special assessments.

932
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:47,660
Yes.

933
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:50,840
A former council that you were a part of.

934
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:53,840
I know you were part of putting us in that predicament.

935
01:01:56,190 --> 01:01:56,770
Mr. Huffner.

936
01:01:57,850 --> 01:01:59,410
Was you not on the council that approved that?

937
01:01:59,530 --> 01:02:00,170
Yes, I was.

938
01:02:00,510 --> 01:02:01,210
Okay, there you go.

939
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:02,550
Okay, there I go.

940
01:02:03,070 --> 01:02:03,890
And here's the thing.

941
01:02:04,410 --> 01:02:05,010
Times change.

942
01:02:05,350 --> 01:02:07,110
Now we're going back the other way.

943
01:02:07,850 --> 01:02:09,510
There's an album flow in government.

944
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:11,970
At the time that we made that decision,

945
01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:14,310
people were building houses in Burton.

946
01:02:15,050 --> 01:02:17,670
That's the only thing to keep Burton going, by the way.

947
01:02:19,290 --> 01:02:21,650
When the bottom drop, it didn't just drop in Burton.

948
01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:23,450
and dropped all the way across the country.

949
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:26,230
But you're coming back and you're trying to slam us

950
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:27,710
for something we did to try to write it wrong.

951
01:02:27,710 --> 01:02:28,970
I'm not blaming anyone.

952
01:02:29,370 --> 01:02:31,390
I'm, if you listen, I'm not blaming anyone.

953
01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:34,870
What it does is sticks in my crowd that we have people

954
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:39,070
in the city of Burton it would buy a $7,500 lot

955
01:02:39,070 --> 01:02:42,550
in that subdivision rather than have this guy cherry pick

956
01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:43,570
all the good lots.

957
01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:45,930
And then how do you give somebody a right

958
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:47,010
of first refusal?

959
01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:49,730
Refusal on property doesn't even own.

960
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:55,370
That's how we got him to buy cross creek and mallard ponds yeah, but they would still be sitting there empty

961
01:02:56,730 --> 01:03:03,810
You don't think he would have bought him without them. No, did he have a right first refusal in cross creek rails ridge mallard ponds?

962
01:03:03,970 --> 01:03:10,990
He bought them all right, did he bought them all right? That's correct. Okay, we were trying to fix a mistake that a prior council made. Oh

963
01:03:11,730 --> 01:03:13,490
We are that's what we tried to do

964
01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:26,970
Okay, that's, that's, you know what, that's this council's whole agenda, somebody else did it, we got a fix it and that's what has been the last few years has fixed in mistakes of the past.

965
01:03:27,590 --> 01:03:34,190
All right, any more discussion on item five, call the roll please.

966
01:03:34,650 --> 01:03:35,430
Mr. Halskins.

967
01:03:36,350 --> 01:03:36,730
Yes.

968
01:03:37,210 --> 01:03:37,570
Mr. Halskins.

969
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:37,950
Yes.

970
01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:39,510
Mr. Martin Bianco.

971
01:03:39,650 --> 01:03:39,950
Yes.

972
01:03:40,410 --> 01:03:40,990
Mr. Wells.

973
01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:42,490
Mr. O'Keefe.

974
01:03:42,690 --> 01:03:43,130
Yes.

975
01:03:43,470 --> 01:03:44,110
Mr. Smith.

976
01:03:44,110 --> 01:03:45,930
Yes, I think you're right.

977
01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:47,190
Item six.

978
01:03:48,050 --> 01:03:56,110
Sumer's energy company gas and or electric franchise ordinance by the vice president supported by a councilman Smith.

979
01:03:56,610 --> 01:03:59,180
Mr. Councilman O'Keefe, excuse me.

980
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:01,570
So you need discussion.

981
01:04:03,230 --> 01:04:04,230
Call the roll please.

982
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:06,550
Mr. Haskins. Mr. Huffner.

983
01:04:07,490 --> 01:04:08,510
Mr. Martin Mioco.

984
01:04:09,450 --> 01:04:09,470
Yes.

985
01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:09,990
Mr. Wells.

986
01:04:10,610 --> 01:04:11,370
Yes. Mr. O'Keefe.

987
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:11,710
Yes.

988
01:04:11,930 --> 01:04:12,610
Mr. Smith.

989
01:04:12,610 --> 01:04:14,950
I think you

990
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:26,360
get your agenda and you can now find minutes at www.burtonemye.gov.

991
01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:28,880
Anything else to come before the council?

992
01:04:30,340 --> 01:04:32,620
Yes, Mr. President. Just a request.

993
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,740
So as you know, we cancelled tonight's committee schedule committee, the whole meeting.

994
01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:45,380
And we'd like to reschedule that the folks that we're going to,

995
01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:49,620
Some of the folks who are going to do the presentation have a conflict because some of them

996
01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:54,780
are members of councils and governmental bodies in other communities.

997
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,460
So they had a conflict on the first and third Mondays.

998
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:07,420
And I'm hoping to reschedule that as soon as possible on a non-console meeting night.

999
01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:12,100
I don't know if we can take care of that tonight, but these folks are waiting to hear from

1000
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:17,380
us or we're going to come down and give you a presentation and give you answer any questions

1001
01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:17,820
you might have.

1002
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,780
With the legislative chair and he can set all that up.

1003
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,540
That would be great.

1004
01:05:21,820 --> 01:05:22,260
Thank you.

1005
01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:23,400
Thank you, sir.

1006
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:25,160
Mr. O'Kee,

1007
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:31,370
October 2nd, at 7 p.m.,

1008
01:05:33,540 --> 01:05:36,240
we have Michelle and Eric here at the White

1009
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,080
Thank you sir.

1010
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,600
Anything else in council?

1011
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,760
Hearing none, we're adjourned at 808.

1012
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,820
I think that's by design.

1013
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:04,520
I think they want us on.

1014
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:08,800
Hold on.

1015
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:13,750
I'm sorry.

1016
01:06:13,950 --> 01:06:15,790
Young lady, thank you so much.

1017
01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:22,020
Hi.

1018
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,340
How you doing?

1019
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:25,140
How you doing?

1020
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,900
I don't know if he's told you.

1021
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:33,380
Oh, not here.

1022
01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:37,260
We need a lot of power, let's take it up here.

1023
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:43,520
I like to use a budget suite of reading, but I like to give that up.

1024
01:06:51,870 --> 01:06:52,710
I'll see you, sir.

1025
01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:53,650
What?

1026
01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:54,830
Yeah, I'll show you.

1027
01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:03,350
Yeah, I haven't forgot your brother.

1028
01:07:05,290 --> 01:07:07,470
What did you do?

1029
01:07:07,550 --> 01:07:08,130
I'm sorry.

1030
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:09,310
I feel better now.

1031
01:07:14,790 --> 01:07:16,650
Hey, about two hours.

1032
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:27,580
You guys didn't make the money still.

1033
01:07:28,940 --> 01:07:29,800
I'm hoping not paying much.

1034
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:31,980
That's the reason.

1035
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,380
Oh, he had me going.

1036
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,500
And five minutes.

1037
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:39,400
What?

1038
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,680
Two minutes.

1039
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:44,600
Two minutes.

1040
01:07:44,620 --> 01:07:45,600
Two minutes.

1041
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:45,780
Two minutes.

1042
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:46,440
Two minutes.

1043
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,160
Two.

1044
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:55,840
It's for sure that maybe guys didn't realize that you need a bath and not much what you've been doing

1045
01:07:56,580 --> 01:07:58,180
I haven't seen you in a hundred years

1046
01:07:59,860 --> 01:08:01,680
Oh, are you

1047
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,200
Sorry about that

1048
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,180
My mom allegedly sold the corner and then that they'll fell through

1049
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:17,720
I had told us so bad we got it. I got to have your heart on her face. I got something going on

1050
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,060
What's the name things?

1051
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,800
Oh no, that's forever.

1052
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,840
That's you go to the lunch plate or the financial chair.

1053
01:08:31,740 --> 01:08:33,280
And then they'll bring it to us.

1054
01:08:33,340 --> 01:08:34,380
Well, it turns out a lot.

1055
01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:35,820
You gotta take it for me.

1056
01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:37,920
I have some hard problems.

1057
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,140
I'm trying to get those trained around.

1058
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,380
I have some given the issues.

1059
01:08:41,620 --> 01:08:44,260
Doctors as I can't get this take care of till I'm sure.

1060
01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:44,820
Yes.

1061
01:08:44,940 --> 01:08:45,980
You got some of your mom.

1062
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,000
Six.

1063
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:48,240
Seven.

1064
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:55,380
One of them too, I like to think so sometimes, we do like that.

1065
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:56,640
That's kind of the hell out.

1066
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,720
All right.

1067
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,480
Can you tell who's doing the politics?

1068
01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:02,960
It's not easy.

1069
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,280
Oh, no way.

1070
01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:07,180
We're trying to do that.

1071
01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:08,660
We're trying to fix the power of the heat cause.

1072
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,420
Forty-two years.

1073
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,580
About time like one way.

1074
01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:14,920
So we're still all of our stuff.

1075
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,420
You know, playing for us, we wasn't here with us, and the first one,

1076
01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:37,300
he's just clueless and a lot of this stuff.

1077
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:39,780
I mean, he's totally clueless.

1078
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,240
I want this time, it's $3 million.

1079
01:09:56,380 --> 01:09:57,700
Ah, very nice.

1080
01:09:58,420 --> 01:09:58,820
Very nice.

1081
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,440
That'd get to see how the democracy works.

1082
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:04,140
Or doesn't.

1083
01:10:04,380 --> 01:10:05,820
The pain on what side of the table you have.

1084
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:06,520
You did.

1085
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:07,260
We're trying to fit.

1086
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,100
I see it.

1087
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:13,560
You take care.

1088
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,860
I see it.

1089
01:10:16,860 --> 01:10:18,400
I think it's just a finished committee.

1090
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:19,680
It's not that big.

1091
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,880
It's like a big.

1092
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:20,980
It's like a big.

1093
01:10:21,460 --> 01:10:22,020
It's like a big.

1094
01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:22,600
It's like a big.

1095
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,140
The bonds to the Jeremy.

1096
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:32,600
We have the luxury of looking back.

1097
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,100
I can, the compensation.

1098
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:36,520
Anything with compensation.

1099
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,660
Because we don't really make a law.

1100
01:10:40,900 --> 01:10:43,060
We can make a policy that says,

1101
01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:45,780
you know, any commission members are going to get this.

1102
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:05,900
Yeah.

1103
01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:07,240
Yeah.

1104
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,260
When you should kill those from one another, because it's a coincidence.

1105
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,860
I thought we had to have something to do with.

1106
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:18,780
I was not.

1107
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,620
But that's what you got.

1108
01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:22,040
Why can't you do that?

1109
01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:22,500
I'm not fine.

1110
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:23,840
I'm fine.

1111
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,080
You know, the government's not here.

1112
01:11:25,220 --> 01:11:26,160
You sure about that.

1113
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:27,540
Oh, he's not.

1114
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:28,000
That's what we do.

1115
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:32,060
That's all the compensation to me.

1116
01:11:32,460 --> 01:11:35,520
I'm sure there's some rules about it.

1117
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:36,960
Hello, they're going to get them.

1118
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:37,920
No, let's see.

1119
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:41,220
Dr. Hayd, he's a great package.

1120
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:43,260
He's a great package.

1121
01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:45,180
He needs to zip his head.

1122
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:46,360
10 dollar statement.

1123
01:11:46,460 --> 01:11:47,300
He's a good company.

1124
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:22,700
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1125
01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:23,120
I'm sorry.

1126
01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:23,800
Right.

1127
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,680
Nobody told me to get it?

1128
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:25,940
I guess I got to tell you.

1129
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:26,300
I got to tell you.

1130
01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:28,880
I got to tell you.

1131
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:34,880
Tom, Tom had been talking about given all the commission attend the race.

1132
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:35,520
Did you do what?

1133
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:36,120
Do you do what?

1134
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:36,940
In the budget time?

1135
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,420
No.

1136
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,480
You said we're going to give him all I could attend the race.

1137
01:12:40,540 --> 01:12:41,500
Yeah, we talked about that.

1138
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,860
We talked about that.

1139
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,340
Yeah,

1140
01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:46,400
we talked about that.

1141
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,060
You know what?

1142
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:47,500
Pardon me?

1143
01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:47,920
I don't know.

1144
01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:48,940
Kevin brought it up.

1145
01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:49,820
Kevin?

1146
01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:52,320
What did you expect about it?

1147
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:54,200
I would be really happy to talk to you.

1148
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,180
Hey, for your gas.

1149
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,620
You'll be how much?

1150
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:21,760
Are you six in the name?

1151
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,880
You're older than him?

1152
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:26,240
Yes, six.

1153
01:13:28,180 --> 01:13:29,760
I wouldn't have never known that.

1154
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:30,500
That's what I did.

1155
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,320
Good for the recognition.

1156
01:13:36,140 --> 01:13:42,940
Good for the recognition.

1157
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,940
Yeah, some apparently some galantaves, some zoos did.

1158
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,680
Oh, Greg, over the emphastor, she's interested.

1159
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:55,540
What's that?

1160
01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:56,180
Yeah.

1161
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,080
I was down there.

1162
01:13:58,180 --> 01:13:58,860
Tuesday, Wednesday.

1163
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:00,020
Yeah.

1164
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:00,820
Thursday and Friday.

1165
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,260
We got there all the time.

1166
01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:04,720
I think they'll Saturday.

1167
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:06,500
Yeah.

1168
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:07,060
I think they'll Saturday.

1169
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:08,540
Yeah.

1170
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:11,960
Yeah.

1171
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,480
It's a good fun.

1172
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:14,900
We're the girls, get on with everything.

1173
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:16,380
See, that's what we're trying to do.

1174
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,900
Yeah, they come real, they come real.

1175
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:20,160
Well, it's like, uh, no kids.

1176
01:14:20,540 --> 01:14:21,660
They're even trying to stop over here.

1177
01:14:21,860 --> 01:14:22,380
Use those.

1178
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,480
Here's not the way they hold on.

1179
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,880
Yeah, that's what they're trying to do.