1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,560 All right, we'll go ahead and call the roll of the council to meet for the 2 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:08,960 first but I'll lead the Pledge of Allegiance. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,240 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States [clears throat] of 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,040 America, [groaning] and to the republic for which it stands, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,960 one [clears throat] nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,980 for all. >> [clears throat] 7 00:00:24,235 --> 00:00:26,255 [laughter] 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,640 » Did anybody in the audience have any questions pertaining to tonight's 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,920 agenda? All right, moving on to minutes from the 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,195 previous meeting. >> I'll make a motion to adopt the minutes 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,400 from May 18th as presented. >> [clears throat] 12 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:51,600 » Second. >> Motion and second to adopt the minutes 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,920 from May 18th. All in favor? >> I. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:59,280 » All opposed? Hearing none, that motion is passed. 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:05,199 Looking at proposed ordinances and resolutions. This one is the 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:09,520 proposed ordinance 18-19, Shop with a First Responder fund, 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,400 first reading. >> Yeah, so this is an explanation. I did 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,400 not know I needed to do this until Thursday. 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,440 » Sorry. >> brought me money. 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:24,920 And he says that the police and the fire departments are now joining together to 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:28,560 do Shop with the Cops. So, I changed the name. If you don't like the name, just 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,800 let me know. >> you know, what maybe there is a name 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,480 » I'm not sure if you guys know. >> Yeah. 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,880 » Badges and Boots or something like that. Something like that. 25 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,640 » Yes. >> Um 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,560 » Is it Badges and Boots? >> I think so, but I think that came up 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,520 with a couple of them, but that was the one he came to me. 28 00:01:42,181 --> 00:01:45,640 » [laughter] >> I actually don't remember seeing 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,920 anything. >> I'm going to leave it the way it is for 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:56,600 me, and then you can advertise however >> Yeah. 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:59,520 » Because the title here is very plain to understand. 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,080 » I think it's Rachel made one, so >> Okay. 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,640 » We got to amend it at the next meeting, too. 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 » Yeah. >> I'm going to bring that in until they 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,360 get an answer on that matter this afternoon. 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:15,880 » Yeah, so I'm requesting that you approve it all three readings tonight if 37 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:19,360 possible because I have money I need to deposit for this. 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,600 » I make a motion I accept. Propose ordinance 18-19 shuttle the 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,880 first responder fund on the first reading. 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:32,240 » Second. >> Motion and a second to adopt 41 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,840 proposed ordinance 18-19 as presented. All in favor? 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,760 » Aye. >> All opposed? 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Hearing none, that motion will pass. >> I'll make a motion we adopt ordinance 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:46,080 18-19 establishing [clears throat] a 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:50,280 shuttle with a first responder fund as presented. 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:54,240 » Second. >> Motion and a second to adopt proposed 47 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,840 ordinance 18-19 on the second reading. All in favor? 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,720 » Aye. >> All opposed? 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,747 Hearing none, that motion will pass. >> This is done. 50 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,720 » Suspend the >> [clears throat] 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,519 » I make a motion we suspend the rules. >> Second. 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,800 » Motion to suspend the rules. All in favor? 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,800 » Aye. >> All opposed? 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,800 Hearing none, that motion will pass. 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,680 » I'll make a motion we adopt ordinance 18-19 on third and final reading as 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,200 presented. >> Second. 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,160 » Motion and a second to adopt proposed ordinance 18-19 on third and final 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 reading. All in favor? >> Aye. 59 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:33,239 » All opposed? Hearing none, that motion will pass. 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,239 » Thank you. 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,280 » All right, getting into the department reports, we will start off with Ron. 62 00:03:38,117 --> 00:03:43,040 » [clears throat] >> I have nothing for the city council. 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 » All right. 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Corey. >> I have nothing for the city council. 65 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:52,600 » Stewart. >> I have nothing for the city council. 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,600 » Bradford. for council. 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Andy? Uh I have nothing for 68 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,200 council. 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Yeah. >> Nothing for council. 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 » Go ahead, Cindy. 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Yeah. >> Yeah. 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,680 » Uh hey, [clears throat] I'm just catching up with everything. 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,519 » Don, you have anything for the council? 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,480 Andy's going to break the streak. >> I am and I'm sorry, but they're short. 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Okay, I have received our first arbitrage report back on the 2021 sewage 76 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:37,360 bonds. We do owe money to the IRS. I have 77 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:42,600 already paid it. Um [clears throat] so, we actually 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:47,880 earned $61,000 in the revenue we received on these 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:55,080 bonds because it took us a while to spend the money as the project 80 00:04:51,720 --> 00:05:01,600 So, the arbitrage report shows that we do need to pay some of that money to the 81 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,600 IRS to the tune of $1,739. 82 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,880 So, I just wanted everybody to know this is the first one. I should be getting a 83 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,960 couple more. Hopefully, we don't owe on any of the 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:16,880 others. And we did receive a supplemental local 85 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:25,360 income tax distribution. It was deposited into our account today. 86 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:33,200 And it was just a little short of 33,000 for the year. Now, just as a reminder, 87 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:38,760 this revenue stream will be going away once the legislature decides 88 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:43,960 what they're going to do. I think the last 89 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:50,360 year for it is 28 now. So, this is going to go away and be replaced by something 90 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:54,440 else, that I have no way of knowing if we would receive supplemental income 91 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,120 from it. So, any questions? 92 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Okay, and did anybody notice that the print's larger? 93 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,880 » There was something different about it. I didn't know. 94 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,880 » I noticed it right away. 95 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:19,880 » I did some training a couple of weeks ago and they recommend that any 96 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:26,680 documents you're going to share should be at the size 14 font. So, I am 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,720 starting to do that. It just shows that our eyes are getting 98 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 older. >> You can say that to us old people. 99 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,240 » All right, yes. So, if you have any questions, let me 100 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:39,609 know. >> Thank you. 101 00:06:37,589 --> 00:06:39,609 » [clears throat] 102 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,040 » Tracy, you have anything for the council? 103 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:49,160 » I am Oh, I already told Angela and Christie. I may or may not be here on 104 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,280 July 6th. >> July 6th? 105 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:55,760 » Yeah, we're going to Washington D.C. for that weekend. 106 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 » Okay. Jerry? 107 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:08,280 » I was just going to ask a question on any updates with regarding 108 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,800 that grocery store, hospitals, and also as the 5th of July comes up, 109 00:07:10,339 --> 00:07:14,919 » [clears throat] >> you know, 110 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:18,640 I know we've talked about it, but I didn't think it would be this close. 111 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Just asking a question. >> Okay. For for the grocery store, 112 00:07:21,475 --> 00:07:27,440 » [clears throat] >> I think the last 4th I meet with a 113 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,680 company or a group that's very interested 114 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,480 and they're still going through the process. It's It's a very difficult 115 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,400 process when you deal with um foreclosure and and 116 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:45,600 you can either wait for the foreclosure to happen 117 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:50,440 6 to 9 months down the road. Or they have an option of 118 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,800 buying the note as is and assuming and assuming all that. 119 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,840 But right now they don't know what all that is. They don't know what vendors 120 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,400 they owe for food, uh sacks, pop, all that. All they know 121 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:06,560 right now is they owe the bank this amount of money, 122 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:11,640 they're back on their monthly payments. They tried to dissect where each 123 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,600 vendor how much they owe through the process. 124 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Um but they don't know their individual reach out. 125 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Thursday last week, they're interested as well, but with what we have going 126 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:26,720 with this existing group, they said they're going to take a 127 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,640 backstage to it, let this process through. 128 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Um if it doesn't develop, they're still 129 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,440 interested in it. So, that's where we're at in regards to your 130 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,400 other [clears throat] question. >> Um regarding the park design event, I 131 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,520 thought we had something as as >> Do you Do you plan on doing it on the 132 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,960 27th? >> Yeah, I couldn't remember the I couldn't 133 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,120 remember the date. >> Um 134 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Did you have I'll talk to you a little bit after afterwards on that. I got some 135 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:53,240 information to add to that press release, but still doing June 27th at 136 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:57,600 the Marshall building. It's going to be a fundraiser for the 137 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Historical Society. Um we have a band coming in from Detroit, 138 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,640 Kate Hinote Kate Hinote Trio. 139 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Uh we're going to have a silent auction. We're going to do like a um 140 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,839 like a Taste of Auburn. You go around different stations. We've got 141 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,680 restaurants and they're going to have like one dish that they're going to 142 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,360 have for everybody. So, it'll be like seven or eight different stations like 143 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:23,560 that. Uh we'll have a cash bar from Door 13 144 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,560 over in Auburn. 145 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Right now we're seeking small sponsorship. We did get a $5,000 grant 146 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:35,839 from the Elk County Visitors Bureau. So, that's going to help go a long way 147 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:41,000 as far as doing marketing. Tickets are printed right now. You can 148 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:45,600 buy them in person. I'll have some of those tickets tomorrow night. 149 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,200 The Olive Twist and all of them are selling them right now. 150 00:09:48,196 --> 00:09:55,520 » [cough and clears throat] >> You can go on to eventbrite.com 151 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,520 and buy the tickets directly from there. 152 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,680 I thought I had a couple of that kind of questions. 153 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:06,360 » I just wanted to say that yesterday the city of Augusta had coupons. 154 00:10:05,881 --> 00:10:09,240 » [clears throat] >> They were out of coupons [cough] 155 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,400 because we don't have a grocery store. >> Yep. 156 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,560 Put some air in there. 157 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:22,360 Christian. >> [clears throat] 158 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:28,000 » The only thing I have is I wanted to read something that I saw online 159 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:32,920 um about a couple that was here over the Memorial Parade. 160 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:37,280 I have to take my glasses off. It says, "My husband and I arrived in 161 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:41,200 town for some RV repair and we will be leaving when it is complete the first. 162 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,320 Thank you to the new friends we met while we had some free time to walk in 163 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:49,880 your fantastic quaint town. People are all so friendly treating us 164 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:55,560 like we all knew each other. Hospitality when we're twisted about on the wrong 165 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,880 roads and the genius of your town is awesome. 166 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,760 We are still adjusting to the trains but enjoying the rumble. Near Herman, we 167 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,452 can't tell you enough how we enjoyed our layover in town and send best wishes to 168 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,839 all who are so fortunate to live [clears throat] there. Hopefully we will 169 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,839 be able to stop back for a next year's Memorial Day Parade. It [clears throat] 170 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,587 was perfect. Thanks again, Barb and Joe." 171 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,520 I don't know who Barb and Joe were, >> [clears throat] 172 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,240 » but they enjoyed themselves while they were here in town. So, I'll be back. Did 173 00:11:22,839 --> 00:11:25,960 you want me to say that? >> What's that? 174 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:30,000 » Did you meet Barb and Joe? >> I did. Um 175 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:34,440 They're from Michigan. It's a husband and wife probably in their 176 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:38,400 60s or early 60s. They um 177 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,320 drag racers. All seven races of the year, they said. 178 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:45,840 Said, "We don't do good. We don't win, but we have fun." And they they had a 179 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,320 problem with their RV on their slide out. It malfunctioned when they were 180 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,480 going to Ohio race track, so they stopped down here to Jason Deaton's 181 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:58,800 place to get it fixed. And this is on a 182 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,080 I think it was on a Friday night. They actually poured in town. We went 183 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,520 around town. And 184 00:12:02,473 --> 00:12:05,360 » [clears throat] >> um 185 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,840 No, it was Sunday. Cuz I was hanging one of the banners 186 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,400 fell down. I was hanging the banner up and I noticed them 187 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,800 kind of looking around, kind of out of place. And I drove around the block and 188 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:16,360 said, "Can I help you?" He said, "Well, we're looking for Jason's place." I 189 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,760 said, "Well, it's just right down the street." And they told me the whole 190 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,920 story. Um so, they were going to camp out here 191 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,800 until 2:00 in the morning when they opened up the 192 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:28,680 the garage. And so, met them there, went back, 193 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,760 checked on them a little bit later that night to see if they were awake, and 194 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:34,920 they didn't And they hadn't been able to drive it anywhere cuz 195 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,240 they towed it home on a trailer. Go park it in the parking lot in the front of 196 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,040 it. And then 197 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Monday at the parade up here lining up, they showed up there for the parade. 198 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,240 And um I didn't think I would probably should 199 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,240 have asked them to ride out with somebody at the memorial service, but 200 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:55,120 they It was up town. They wanted to show cars, see what was in the parade, 201 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:58,280 and chit-chat. I think Jim, did you get a chance to talk to them? 202 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,680 And they're very friendly. Just 203 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,040 really enjoyed the town, other than the trains. 204 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,360 And she's a crafter. She said, "I'll be back for you guys' craft show." She 205 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:12,640 looked everything up on what the main street see what we did. So, she said she 206 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,640 just really enjoyed it. >> Where are they from? 207 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,560 » Um they are out of Michigan. 208 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Up by 209 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,240 one of the lakes. There's three big lake chains that go to Hopewell Lake or 210 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,480 something like that. >> Hopewell Lake? 211 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,560 » Yeah. They're up there somewhere. There's a couple of weeks to feed into 212 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,640 that. Yeah. So no, they they enjoyed it. 213 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Um I was talking to them back when I when I 214 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,480 seen that as well and just say appreciate you guys giving that comment, 215 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,400 you know, it's good to have outsiders come in here 216 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,480 and put their different eyes on and sometimes see what what we don't see. 217 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,040 You know, kind of that if you got any more I'm 218 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,720 just going to kind of feed off that a little bit. 219 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,640 » How was that? >> Good. 220 00:13:52,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Kind of going in and seeing if some outsiders can see what's going on. So 221 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,560 I just want to give another update to 222 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:07,080 all the housing that we got going in here. Right now there's five different 223 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,240 um houses being built right now. You go 224 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:15,440 down here on Peach Street and Green. 225 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Um you go down here on West Oak and Depot. Um 226 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,800 there's five of them full fledged. They're they're going at it. 227 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Um And that is 228 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:27,720 two different builders. And we got another builder that's 229 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,280 looking at doing a bigger project later on. So I think things are looking to me 230 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:36,240 and I hope everyone else will see that looking good for [clears throat] Butler. 231 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Um by the end of this month we should have a new business down by the 232 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,040 laundromat. I won't say what it is. I'll let that be 233 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,920 their surprise. Um but that's something that we're 234 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:50,560 bringing downtown as well. So I think for the most part things are 235 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,760 looking up. I think Butler's progressing. I think we're coming 236 00:14:51,465 --> 00:14:55,600 [clears throat] alive and moving forward. So 237 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,800 That's all I have right now. Now we do have a 238 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,600 planning commission meeting coming up. Two weeks, Jim? 239 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:12,280 Yeah, [clears throat] which uh we've got a very very nice project that's going to 240 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:16,320 be brought up to the planning commission that hopefully the following meeting I 241 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,320 can report back and I think you guys got to be 242 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:23,960 very happy with that one as well. That's all I have. Does anybody in the 243 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,320 audience have anything for the common council? 244 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:32,730 » I just had a question. On that business that's a surprise, is it family owned? 245 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Can you say that? >> [laughter] 246 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,680 » Yeah, well, I don't think it's family owned. It's It's 247 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,280 national chain. Let's just put it that way. 248 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,280 » Got you. 249 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,040 » That's all I can give you. >> Sure. 250 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,760 » Want to come to the planning commission meeting here in 2 weeks? 251 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,640 You can sit in on that. So. 252 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 » Maybe. 253 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,360 » Anything else? >> Please speak into here. 254 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,160 » Mike. >> Please speak into here. Has there 255 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:04,640 anything [clears throat] brought up to you about the situation with the train 256 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,880 down here the other morning? >> Listen, I wrote train down there and 257 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,120 went right over it. Um, I was in contact with that guy from uh 258 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,800 I've got two of them. One from Indiana and one from Atlanta, Georgia. The guy 259 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:20,120 from Atlanta, Georgia seems to be my probably my best go-to. 260 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Last week, uh what day was it? Rome? They had the 261 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,080 10:50. >> That Wednesday. 262 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,080 » Thursday. >> Thursday. 263 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,839 » Yeah. >> So 264 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,520 » Back-to-back day. >> So, about 7:00 that morning 265 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,960 track was closed. This would be the the uh Detroit line. You know, the farthest 266 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,960 south tracks. Walked around 7:00. 267 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,320 Um I finally got a hold of the guy at 9:00 268 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,960 to see what was going on. He said he'd check into it and let you know. 269 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Um Looked back down there again. It's still 270 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,200 blocked at 11:00. Still blocked at like 11:30. So, I called him and said, "Hey, 271 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,360 what's going on? You've been here for hours now." 272 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:00,520 And he goes, "I just got this from him." He goes, "There was actually an accident 273 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:04,800 on kind of 34. Car versus train. Um 274 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:09,040 Nobody was hurt. Crew wasn't hurt. We're just doing our 275 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:14,880 investigation." And finally at 12:00 noon or so, they 276 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:19,760 opened that up. So, after 5 hours. Um I did call central dispatch and say, "Hey, 277 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:24,280 well, first of all, police and fire Ron and Corey or Matt, one of the two and 278 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:28,079 say, "Hey, was there a wreck out there?" And 279 00:17:26,199 --> 00:17:31,880 I talked to Ron, "Was it you guys aware there was a 10-50 out there?" And he 280 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:36,480 goes, "No." And then you said police called, EMS wasn't called. 281 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,480 So, that's how you call central dispatch and say, "Hey, what's going on here? 282 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:47,040 Um there's a 10-50, but you never told our police, fire, EMS." He goes, "Yeah, 283 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:50,400 we were told by the railroad police on the scene, 284 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,480 property damage, we don't need anybody out here." 285 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,160 But he said, "We made the scene and we the county cleared the scene." I think 286 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:00,280 you said it 9:18 a.m. So, I asked him, I said, "Do you think 287 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,320 anywhere in that conversation that you probably should have called called 288 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Butler fire or police to let them know there was a 289 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:11,242 10-50, it's a county 10-34, the crossing's going to be blocked for a 290 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,520 little bit?" >> [clears throat] 291 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:18,760 » It really didn't go off. So, I asked him, "The next time that happens, 292 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,320 you really need to communicate with us. We're communicating to you by calling 293 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:27,520 you and letting you know what we hear. We expect the same in return. So, 294 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,680 uh he said he would follow up on that, make sure he would do the information. 295 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,960 And then next day, same time, it was blocked 296 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,360 again. And it seemed to be about that 7:00 to 8:00 297 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:42,120 time frame that crossing gets blocked because I get 298 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,760 calls from third or um telemarketer people. They start texting, "Train's at 299 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,920 crossing." So, I told him, "Every time you see it blocked here, please let me 300 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:52,560 know because I'm going to let them know." 301 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:57,920 So, it was blocked again. Um they never did getting back to me why it was 302 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:01,760 blocked. Um but in the conversation with the guy from the railroad, 303 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:07,600 he says, "Would the city of Butler be interested if we would put cameras at 304 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:11,680 both of these intersections or railroad crossings?" 305 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,880 He said it's $7,000 per year for the program. 306 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Um we'll pay for the program the first 2 307 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,160 years, but it becomes responsibility of the city after that. That's why I don't 308 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,320 like that part of it, but I do like the 2 years free. 309 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,120 Um we all like free. 310 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,760 So, that's something they did send me out some information on it. 311 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,520 And we talked about it. I probably will sit down with police and fire and 312 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,720 discuss that. He said we can put the camera right up 313 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,440 here so you can see it. I said, "I don't need to see it." 314 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:46,560 We need your fire department to see it. So, they they need to go to the police 315 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:49,800 station or the fire station so they can track that. I mean, I can look right out 316 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,640 my window and see it. I don't need a camera to tell me it's blocked. 317 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,360 So. But he also said that they was going to 318 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:03,160 increase the speed limit on this track and allow them to run 60 mph versus 50. 319 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,120 And you feel that it will move clear the crossings a lot 320 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,800 quicker. And it also get them past some of these 321 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,040 junctions like the ones behind the bowling alley. He heard that as well. 322 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,160 And I know Sunday when I was working on the 323 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:20,720 building down there, there was probably four different sets of trains that come 324 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:25,040 by that's both going east to west on both sets of tracks. And then out here 325 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:29,520 on the south side of tracks um had a guy on his ORV he couldn't get 326 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,040 out of the city because he couldn't get on the the roads. 327 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,680 Um [clears throat] so, he was blocked. He couldn't get 328 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,800 across Federal. He couldn't get across State Road 1. So, he was in town for 329 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:43,440 close to an hour. Um but they was trying to change over to go 330 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:47,520 some of these trains here on the Chicago line was wanting to change to go north 331 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,480 on the Detroit line and it was just a mess. I mean, I I 332 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,880 had not seen that much traffic on a Sunday. 333 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:58,480 I bet for hour that I was up there I bet there 334 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,480 was probably 30 trains that went by. 335 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,360 Terrible. So, that's where we're at on the train 336 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,560 side of it. Um They they know where the city of Butler 337 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,094 is at. Those are the problem now. >> Fireman? 338 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,720 » Yes. >> [laughter] 339 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,480 » Um They tell to kill me one time it was 340 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,960 impossible the train was sitting here on the Chicago line. 341 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:20,240 And he said, "Why is your train in Lafayette going to Detroit?" I said, 342 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,400 "Yeah, because the gate to Chicago train is making that loop behind the wall and 343 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,880 I had to go north to Detroit." He goes, "Well, that's not possible. They can't 344 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,640 switch over there." Sorry, it's been here for 345 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:36,000 70, 80 years. Um so 346 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:39,680 he said right now with the price of fuel these trucking companies can't afford to 347 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,960 ship to certain parts of the country. So, they're going to rail and he said, 348 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:48,560 "We're backed up across the nation, Chattanooga, Chicago, New York." He 349 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,760 said, "You name it, we're backed up and until 350 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:56,120 price of diesel go down, we're probably going to have to 351 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,720 » It's going to take an additional 3 weeks to 352 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,840 » You what? [clears throat] >> It takes us an additional 3 weeks. Same. 353 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,840 » Did you get it by truck? >> We've started doing rail as well at 354 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,680 Purdue. It's been a nightmare. 355 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,720 » They're all saying it's not getting any better unless the diesel price would get 356 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,160 back down to where they were on the original. 357 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,440 Now, if someone else might give you good now, you know, we've been kind of Corey 358 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:26,080 and I have talked a little bit. I know Tracy and I have talked a little bit. 359 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,760 If there's a way possible, talk with them and check the next time you do. 360 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,360 One of the things that we noticed just this Saturday there on Friday was that 361 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:40,160 the train was waiting for the old Conrail line to go through. 362 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:43,720 They were only four cars in to the side of that that crossing. 363 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,760 That's the third time that I've seen that and they were stopped 2 hours for 364 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,560 that. And then while I called him because we 365 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:56,080 were backed up semis up to get them so they can get turned around to go back to 366 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,440 where they, you know, the thing. Because three of the semi two of the semis that 367 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:06,560 were sitting there of the four were going to STI. 368 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:08,960 Their GPS told them to go this route. So, I said, "Well, where are you going?" 369 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,240 And well, one was going to Vermont Avenue, one was going to call it out. 370 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,000 All right, I'm on the main. 371 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:19,160 So, okay, you know, this is where you you know, have to go. So, they knew that 372 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,040 they could go up and around the moment something happened to us the island. 373 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,040 They would just stop going to the two hours waiting and they wouldn't have had 374 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:32,480 that. So, we turned around. But, as we were doing that, he comes up and as he's 375 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:37,000 pulling out, the train's backing up. And literally [clears throat] four cars 376 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:42,920 that cleared, they backed all the way past the Federal Street Diner or um 377 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:46,640 crossing. And it was between 34th and Federal Street is where that train 378 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,680 parked and it's that short for that. So, I guess the big thing would be what 379 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,040 I'm trying to get at is if you can talk to them about possibly backing their 380 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,480 stopping point to just past Federal Street, they're 381 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,800 still going to be within that distance other than the SDI. 382 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,240 You know. >> We had that conversation and stopped at 383 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,200 the Federal Street or when they change crews, they got to have the stopping up 384 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,400 here and blocking it. Normally, we would stop at the 385 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:17,440 wastewater treatment plant short of there and change crews. But, on that 386 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:21,080 1050 the other day, they was uh It's where the color master sent me a 387 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,800 picture. There was nine cars short of clearing that tracks. And that morning I 388 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,920 knew you're nine short of clearing it. On a 1050, I can see not moving the 389 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,840 train until your investigation's done. But, other times they've been short less 390 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:38,000 than six cars and they would just pull forward or backwards and clear it. 391 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,960 And he said, "That is a trainability issue that they need to discuss with 392 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,560 their people." >> Yeah, cuz I don't know how they do it 393 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:48,680 when they're waiting for the train to cross for the condo that priority. So, 394 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,680 when it's coming up, they're Why can't they back that stopping point 395 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,720 up to to at least that point, you know? So, at 396 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,640 least that would save us a lot of time with one track instead of two. 397 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,400 So, now I said 398 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,560 » only that. >> We'll we'll we'll we'll sit down and 399 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,120 discuss that. >> Can we do that again? 400 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,840 » You maybe jump on it two years unless there's an 401 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,640 extension that we have to pick up. I'm not interested in picking that up 402 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,600 for $7,000 a year. >> Right. 403 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,640 » Okay. Anything else before we entertain a motion to adjourn? 404 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Any motions?