[0:00] All right, we'll go ahead and call the
roll of the council to meet for the
[0:02] first but I'll lead the Pledge of
Allegiance.
[0:05] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States [clears throat] of
[0:10] America, [groaning]
and to the republic for which it stands,
[0:14] one [clears throat] nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:20] for all.
>> [clears throat]
[0:24] [laughter]
[0:33] » Did anybody in the audience have any
questions pertaining to tonight's
[0:36] agenda?
All right, moving on to minutes from the
[0:40] previous meeting.
>> I'll make a motion to adopt the minutes
[0:43] from May 18th as presented.
>> [clears throat]
[0:46] » Second.
>> Motion and second to adopt the minutes
[0:49] from May 18th. All in favor?
>> I.
[0:52] » All opposed?
Hearing none, that motion is passed.
[0:57] Looking at proposed ordinances and
resolutions. This one is the
[1:02] proposed ordinance 18-19, Shop with a
First Responder fund,
[1:07] first reading.
>> Yeah, so this is an explanation. I did
[1:11] not know I needed to do this until
Thursday.
[1:14] » Sorry.
>> brought me money.
[1:17] And he says that the police and the fire
departments are now joining together to
[1:21] do Shop with the Cops. So, I changed the
name. If you don't like the name, just
[1:27] let me know.
>> you know, what maybe there is a name
[1:30] » I'm not sure if you guys know.
>> Yeah.
[1:31] » Badges and Boots or something like that.
Something like that.
[1:34] » Yes.
>> Um
[1:35] » Is it Badges and Boots?
>> I think so, but I think that came up
[1:39] with a couple of them, but that was the
one he came to me.
[1:42] » [laughter]
>> I actually don't remember seeing
[1:45] anything.
>> I'm going to leave it the way it is for
[1:47] me, and then you can advertise however
>> Yeah.
[1:52] » Because the title here is very plain to
understand.
[1:57] » I think it's Rachel made one, so
>> Okay.
[2:00] » We got to amend it at the next meeting,
too.
[2:03] » Yeah.
>> I'm going to bring that in until they
[2:04] get an answer on that matter this
afternoon.
[2:07] » Yeah, so I'm requesting that you approve
it all three readings tonight if
[2:12] possible because I have money I need to
deposit for this.
[2:19] » I make a motion I accept.
Propose ordinance 18-19 shuttle the
[2:24] first responder fund on the first
reading.
[2:26] » Second.
>> Motion and a second to adopt
[2:29] proposed ordinance 18-19
as presented. All in favor?
[2:34] » Aye.
>> All opposed?
[2:36] Hearing none, that motion will pass.
>> I'll make a motion we adopt ordinance
[2:40] 18-19
establishing [clears throat] a
[2:43] shuttle with a first responder fund
as presented.
[2:48] » Second.
>> Motion and a second to adopt proposed
[2:51] ordinance 18-19 on the second reading.
All in favor?
[2:55] » Aye.
>> All opposed?
[2:57] Hearing none, that motion will pass.
>> This is done.
[3:02] » Suspend the
>> [clears throat]
[3:02] » I make a motion we suspend the rules.
>> Second.
[3:06] » Motion to suspend the rules. All in
favor?
[3:09] » Aye.
>> All opposed?
[3:11] Hearing none, that motion will pass.
[3:15] » I'll make a motion we adopt ordinance
18-19 on third and final reading as
[3:18] presented.
>> Second.
[3:22] » Motion and a second to adopt proposed
ordinance 18-19 on third and final
[3:26] reading. All in favor?
>> Aye.
[3:27] » All opposed? Hearing none, that motion
will pass.
[3:30] » Thank you.
[3:34] » All right, getting into the department
reports, we will start off with Ron.
[3:38] » [clears throat]
>> I have nothing for the city council.
[3:40] » All right.
[3:43] Corey.
>> I have nothing for the city council.
[3:48] » Stewart.
>> I have nothing for the city council.
[3:54] » Bradford.
for council.
[3:58] Andy?
Uh I have nothing for
[4:01] council.
[4:04] Yeah.
>> Nothing for council.
[4:06] » Go ahead, Cindy.
[4:09] Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[4:11] » Uh hey, [clears throat] I'm just
catching up with everything.
[4:16] » Don, you have anything for the council?
[4:20] Andy's going to break the streak.
>> I am and I'm sorry, but they're short.
[4:24] Okay, I have received our first
arbitrage report back on the 2021 sewage
[4:30] bonds.
We do owe money to the IRS. I have
[4:35] already paid it.
Um [clears throat] so, we actually
[4:39] earned $61,000
in the revenue we received on these
[4:45] bonds because it took us a while to
spend the money as the project
[4:51] So, the arbitrage report shows that we
do need to pay some of that money to the
[4:56] IRS to the tune of $1,739.
[5:01] So, I just wanted everybody to know this
is the first one. I should be getting a
[5:06] couple more.
Hopefully, we don't owe on any of the
[5:09] others.
And we did receive a supplemental local
[5:14] income tax distribution.
It was deposited into our account today.
[5:20] And it was just a little short of 33,000
for the year. Now, just as a reminder,
[5:29] this revenue stream will be going away
once the legislature decides
[5:36] what they're going to do. I think the
last
[5:40] year for it is 28 now. So, this is going
to go away and be replaced by something
[5:47] else, that I have no way of knowing if
we would receive supplemental income
[5:52] from it.
So, any questions?
[6:00] Okay, and did anybody notice that the
print's larger?
[6:06] » There was something different about it.
I didn't know.
[6:09] » I noticed it right away.
[6:12] » I did some training a couple of weeks
ago and they recommend that any
[6:17] documents you're going to share should
be at the size 14 font. So, I am
[6:24] starting to do that.
It just shows that our eyes are getting
[6:29] older.
>> You can say that to us old people.
[6:31] » All right, yes.
So, if you have any questions, let me
[6:34] know.
>> Thank you.
[6:37] » [clears throat]
[6:41] » Tracy, you have anything for the
council?
[6:43] » I am Oh, I already told Angela and
Christie. I may or may not be here on
[6:48] July 6th.
>> July 6th?
[6:49] » Yeah, we're going to
Washington D.C. for that weekend.
[6:59] » Okay.
Jerry?
[7:01] » I was just going to ask a question on
any updates with regarding
[7:05] that grocery store, hospitals, and also
as the 5th of July comes up,
[7:10] » [clears throat]
>> you know,
[7:12] I know we've talked about it, but I
didn't think it would be this close.
[7:17] Just asking a question.
>> Okay. For for the grocery store,
[7:21] » [clears throat]
>> I think the last 4th I meet with a
[7:25] company or a group that's very
interested
[7:28] and they're still going through the
process. It's It's a very difficult
[7:32] process when you deal with um
foreclosure and and
[7:38] you can either wait for the foreclosure
to happen
[7:42] 6 to 9 months down the road.
Or they have an option of
[7:48] buying the note as is and assuming and
assuming all that.
[7:52] But right now they don't know what all
that is. They don't know what vendors
[7:55] they owe for food,
uh sacks, pop, all that. All they know
[7:59] right now is
they owe the bank this amount of money,
[8:03] they're back on their monthly payments.
They tried to dissect where each
[8:09] vendor how much they owe through the
process.
[8:12] Um but they don't know their individual
reach out.
[8:16] Thursday last week, they're interested
as well, but with what we have going
[8:20] with this existing group,
they said they're going to take a
[8:24] backstage to it, let this process
through.
[8:27] Um
if it doesn't develop, they're still
[8:30] interested in it. So,
that's where we're at in regards to your
[8:33] other [clears throat] question.
>> Um regarding the park design event, I
[8:37] thought we had something as as
>> Do you Do you plan on doing it on the
[8:40] 27th?
>> Yeah, I couldn't remember the I couldn't
[8:41] remember the date.
>> Um
[8:44] Did you have I'll talk to you a little
bit after afterwards on that. I got some
[8:47] information to add to that press
release, but still doing June 27th at
[8:51] the Marshall building.
It's going to be a fundraiser for the
[8:54] Historical Society. Um we have a band
coming in from Detroit,
[8:59] Kate Hinote
Kate Hinote Trio.
[9:02] Uh we're going to have a silent auction.
We're going to do like a um
[9:06] like a Taste of Auburn. You go around
different stations. We've got
[9:09] restaurants and they're going to have
like one dish that they're going to
[9:12] have for everybody. So, it'll be like
seven or eight different stations like
[9:16] that.
Uh we'll have a cash bar from Door 13
[9:20] over in Auburn.
[9:24] Right now we're seeking small
sponsorship. We did get a $5,000 grant
[9:28] from the Elk County Visitors Bureau.
So, that's going to help go a long way
[9:33] as far as doing marketing.
Tickets are printed right now. You can
[9:38] buy them in person. I'll have some of
those tickets tomorrow night.
[9:43] The Olive Twist and all of them are
selling them right now.
[9:48] » [cough and clears throat]
>> You can go on to eventbrite.com
[9:51] and buy the tickets directly from there.
[9:58] I thought I had a couple of that kind of
questions.
[10:00] » I just wanted to say that yesterday
the city of Augusta had coupons.
[10:05] » [clears throat]
>> They were out of coupons [cough]
[10:07] because we don't have a grocery store.
>> Yep.
[10:14] Put some air in there.
[10:18] Christian.
>> [clears throat]
[10:20] » The only thing I have is I wanted to
read something that I saw online
[10:25] um about a couple that was here over the
Memorial Parade.
[10:30] I have to take my glasses off.
It says, "My husband and I arrived in
[10:34] town for some RV repair and we will be
leaving when it is complete the first.
[10:39] Thank you to the new friends we met
while we had some free time to walk in
[10:43] your fantastic quaint town.
People are all so friendly treating us
[10:47] like we all knew each other. Hospitality
when we're twisted about on the wrong
[10:52] roads and the genius of your town is
awesome.
[10:56] We are still adjusting to the trains but
enjoying the rumble. Near Herman, we
[11:01] can't tell you enough how we enjoyed our
layover in town and send best wishes to
[11:05] all who are so fortunate to live
[clears throat] there. Hopefully we will
[11:08] be able to stop back for a next year's
Memorial Day Parade. It [clears throat]
[11:12] was perfect. Thanks again, Barb and
Joe."
[11:16] I don't know who Barb and Joe were,
>> [clears throat]
[11:18] » but they enjoyed themselves while they
were here in town. So, I'll be back. Did
[11:22] you want me to say that?
>> What's that?
[11:24] » Did you meet Barb and Joe?
>> I did. Um
[11:28] They're from Michigan. It's a husband
and wife probably in their
[11:31] 60s or early 60s.
They um
[11:36] drag racers.
All seven races of the year, they said.
[11:40] Said, "We don't do good. We don't win,
but we have fun." And they they had a
[11:44] problem with their RV on their slide
out. It malfunctioned when they were
[11:47] going to Ohio race track, so they
stopped down here to Jason Deaton's
[11:51] place to
get it fixed. And this is on a
[11:56] I think it was on a Friday night.
They actually poured in town. We went
[12:00] around town.
And
[12:02] » [clears throat]
>> um
[12:03] No, it was Sunday.
Cuz I was hanging one of the banners
[12:06] fell down. I was hanging the banner up
and I noticed them
[12:09] kind of looking around, kind of out of
place. And I drove around the block and
[12:12] said, "Can I help you?" He said, "Well,
we're looking for Jason's place." I
[12:15] said, "Well, it's just right down the
street." And they told me the whole
[12:17] story.
Um so, they were going to camp out here
[12:20] until 2:00 in the morning when they
opened up the
[12:24] the garage.
And so, met them there, went back,
[12:27] checked on them a little bit later that
night to see if they were awake, and
[12:29] they didn't And they hadn't been able to
drive it anywhere cuz
[12:32] they towed it home on a trailer. Go park
it in the parking lot in the front of
[12:36] it.
And then
[12:38] Monday at the parade up here lining up,
they showed up there for the parade.
[12:42] And um
I didn't think I would probably should
[12:45] have asked them to ride out with
somebody at the memorial service, but
[12:49] they It was up town. They wanted to show
cars, see what was in the parade,
[12:53] and chit-chat. I think Jim, did you get
a chance to talk to them?
[12:57] And
they're very friendly. Just
[13:00] really enjoyed the town, other than the
trains.
[13:04] And she's a crafter. She said, "I'll be
back for you guys' craft show." She
[13:07] looked everything up on what the main
street see what we did. So, she said she
[13:11] just really enjoyed it.
>> Where are they from?
[13:13] » Um
they are out of Michigan.
[13:17] Up by
[13:19] one of the lakes. There's three big lake
chains that go to Hopewell Lake or
[13:23] something like that.
>> Hopewell Lake?
[13:25] » Yeah. They're up there somewhere.
There's a couple of weeks to feed into
[13:28] that.
Yeah. So no, they they enjoyed it.
[13:31] Um
I was talking to them back when I when I
[13:35] seen that as well and just say
appreciate you guys giving that comment,
[13:38] you know,
it's good to have outsiders come in here
[13:41] and put their different eyes on and
sometimes see what what we don't see.
[13:45] You know,
kind of that if you got any more I'm
[13:47] just going to kind of feed off that a
little bit.
[13:49] » How was that?
>> Good.
[13:52] Kind of going in and seeing if some
outsiders can see what's going on. So
[13:56] I just want to give another update to
[14:00] all the housing that we got going in
here. Right now there's five different
[14:05] um
houses being built right now. You go
[14:08] down here on
Peach Street and Green.
[14:12] Um you go down here on West Oak and
Depot. Um
[14:16] there's five of them full fledged.
They're they're going at it.
[14:19] Um
And that is
[14:22] two different builders.
And we got another builder that's
[14:25] looking at doing a bigger project later
on. So I think things are looking to me
[14:30] and I hope everyone else will see that
looking good for [clears throat] Butler.
[14:34] Um by the end of this month we should
have a new business down by the
[14:38] laundromat.
I won't say what it is. I'll let that be
[14:41] their surprise.
Um but that's something that we're
[14:44] bringing downtown as well. So
I think for the most part things are
[14:48] looking up. I think Butler's
progressing. I think we're coming
[14:51] [clears throat] alive and moving
forward. So
[14:56] That's all I have right now. Now we do
have a
[14:59] planning commission meeting coming up.
Two weeks, Jim?
[15:04] Yeah, [clears throat] which uh we've got
a very very nice project that's going to
[15:09] be brought up to the planning commission
that hopefully the following meeting I
[15:14] can report back and I think you guys got
to be
[15:17] very happy with that one as well.
That's all I have. Does anybody in the
[15:22] audience have anything for the common
council?
[15:25] » I just had a question. On that business
that's a surprise, is it family owned?
[15:31] Can you say that?
>> [laughter]
[15:33] » Yeah, well, I don't think it's family
owned. It's It's
[15:38] national chain. Let's just put it that
way.
[15:40] » Got you.
[15:43] » That's all I can give you.
>> Sure.
[15:46] » Want to come to the planning commission
meeting here in 2 weeks?
[15:50] You can sit in on that.
So.
[15:53] » Maybe.
[15:55] » Anything else?
>> Please speak into here.
[15:57] » Mike.
>> Please speak into here. Has there
[15:59] anything [clears throat] brought up to
you about the situation with the train
[16:03] down here the other morning?
>> Listen, I wrote train down there and
[16:06] went right over it. Um,
I was in contact with that guy from uh
[16:10] I've got two of them. One from Indiana
and one from Atlanta, Georgia. The guy
[16:13] from Atlanta, Georgia seems to be my
probably my best go-to.
[16:18] Last week,
uh what day was it? Rome? They had the
[16:22] 10:50.
>> That Wednesday.
[16:24] » Thursday.
>> Thursday.
[16:25] » Yeah.
>> So
[16:26] » Back-to-back day.
>> So, about 7:00 that morning
[16:30] track was closed. This would be the the
uh Detroit line. You know, the farthest
[16:34] south tracks.
Walked around 7:00.
[16:38] Um
I finally got a hold of the guy at 9:00
[16:41] to see what was going on. He said he'd
check into it and let you know.
[16:44] Um
Looked back down there again. It's still
[16:47] blocked at 11:00. Still blocked at like
11:30. So, I called him and said, "Hey,
[16:51] what's going on? You've been here for
hours now."
[16:54] And he goes, "I just got this from him."
He goes, "There was actually an accident
[16:58] on kind of 34.
Car versus train. Um
[17:02] Nobody was hurt.
Crew wasn't hurt. We're just doing our
[17:06] investigation."
And finally at 12:00 noon or so, they
[17:12] opened that up. So, after 5 hours. Um I
did call central dispatch and say, "Hey,
[17:17] well, first of all, police and fire Ron
and Corey or Matt, one of the two and
[17:22] say,
"Hey, was there a wreck out there?" And
[17:26] I talked to Ron, "Was it you guys aware
there was a 10-50 out there?" And he
[17:29] goes, "No." And then you said police
called, EMS wasn't called.
[17:34] So, that's how you call central dispatch
and say, "Hey, what's going on here?
[17:39] Um there's a 10-50, but you never told
our police, fire, EMS." He goes, "Yeah,
[17:43] we were told by the railroad police on
the scene,
[17:48] property damage, we don't need anybody
out here."
[17:51] But he said, "We made the scene and we
the county cleared the scene." I think
[17:54] you said it 9:18 a.m.
So, I asked him, I said, "Do you think
[17:58] anywhere in that conversation that you
probably should have called called
[18:01] Butler fire
or police to let them know there was a
[18:05] 10-50, it's a county 10-34,
the crossing's going to be blocked for a
[18:09] little bit?"
>> [clears throat]
[18:12] » It really didn't go off. So, I
asked him, "The next time that happens,
[18:16] you really need to communicate with us.
We're communicating to you by calling
[18:20] you and letting you know what we hear.
We expect the same in return. So,
[18:25] uh he said he would follow up on that,
make sure he would do the information.
[18:29] And then
next day, same time, it was blocked
[18:32] again. And it seemed to be about that
7:00 to 8:00
[18:36] time frame that
crossing gets blocked because I get
[18:40] calls from third or um telemarketer
people. They start texting, "Train's at
[18:44] crossing." So, I told him, "Every time
you see it blocked here, please let me
[18:47] know because I'm going to let them
know."
[18:50] So, it was blocked again. Um they never
did getting back to me why it was
[18:54] blocked. Um but in the conversation
with the guy from the railroad,
[19:00] he says, "Would the city of Butler be
interested if we would put cameras at
[19:05] both of these intersections or railroad
crossings?"
[19:08] He said it's $7,000 per year for the
program.
[19:13] Um
we'll pay for the program the first 2
[19:15] years, but it becomes responsibility of
the city after that. That's why I don't
[19:19] like that part of it, but I do like the
2 years free.
[19:22] Um
we all like free.
[19:26] So, that's something they did send me
out some information on it.
[19:30] And we talked about it. I probably will
sit down with police and fire and
[19:33] discuss that.
He said we can put the camera right up
[19:37] here so you can see it. I said, "I don't
need to see it."
[19:40] We need your fire department to see it.
So, they they need to go to the police
[19:43] station or the fire station so they can
track that. I mean, I can look right out
[19:48] my window and see it. I don't need a
camera to tell me it's blocked.
[19:52] So.
But he also said that they was going to
[19:55] increase the speed limit on this track
and allow them to run 60 mph versus 50.
[20:01] And you feel that
it will move clear the crossings a lot
[20:04] quicker.
And it also get them past some of these
[20:07] junctions like the ones behind the
bowling alley. He heard that as well.
[20:10] And
I know Sunday when I was working on the
[20:13] building down there, there was probably
four different sets of trains that come
[20:17] by that's both going east to west on
both sets of tracks. And then out here
[20:22] on the south side of tracks
um had a guy on his ORV he couldn't get
[20:27] out of the city because he couldn't get
on the the roads.
[20:31] Um [clears throat]
so, he was blocked. He couldn't get
[20:33] across Federal. He couldn't get across
State Road 1. So, he was in town for
[20:37] close to an hour. Um but they was trying
to change over to go
[20:41] some of these trains here on the Chicago
line was wanting to change to go north
[20:45] on the Detroit line and it was just a
mess. I mean, I I
[20:48] had not seen that much traffic on a
Sunday.
[20:51] I bet
for hour that I was up there I bet there
[20:54] was probably 30 trains that went by.
[20:58] Terrible.
So, that's where we're at on the train
[21:01] side of it. Um
They they know where the city of Butler
[21:04] is at. Those are the problem now.
>> Fireman?
[21:07] » Yes.
>> [laughter]
[21:08] » Um
They tell to kill me one time it was
[21:11] impossible the train was sitting here on
the Chicago line.
[21:15] And he said, "Why is your train in
Lafayette going to Detroit?" I said,
[21:18] "Yeah, because the gate to Chicago train
is making that loop behind the wall and
[21:21] I had to go north to Detroit." He goes,
"Well, that's not possible. They can't
[21:25] switch over there."
Sorry, it's been here for
[21:29] 70, 80 years.
Um so
[21:33] he said right now with the price of fuel
these trucking companies can't afford to
[21:37] ship to certain parts of the country.
So, they're going to rail and he said,
[21:41] "We're backed up across the nation,
Chattanooga, Chicago, New York." He
[21:46] said, "You name it, we're backed up and
until
[21:49] price of diesel go down, we're probably
going to have to
[21:53] » It's going to take an additional 3 weeks
to
[21:57] » You what? [clears throat]
>> It takes us an additional 3 weeks. Same.
[22:01] » Did you get it by truck?
>> We've started doing rail as well at
[22:04] Purdue.
It's been a nightmare.
[22:09] » They're all saying it's not getting any
better unless the diesel price would get
[22:12] back down to where they were on the
original.
[22:16] Now, if someone else might give you good
now, you know, we've been kind of Corey
[22:20] and I have talked a little bit. I know
Tracy and I have talked a little bit.
[22:23] If there's a way possible, talk with
them and check the next time you do.
[22:28] One of the things that we noticed just
this Saturday there on Friday was that
[22:31] the train was waiting for the old
Conrail line to go through.
[22:36] They were only four cars in
to the side of that that crossing.
[22:42] That's the third time that I've seen
that and they were stopped 2 hours for
[22:45] that.
And then while I called him because we
[22:49] were backed up semis up to get them so
they can get turned around to go back to
[22:53] where they, you know, the thing. Because
three of the semi two of the semis that
[22:57] were sitting there of the four
were going to STI.
[23:02] Their GPS told them to go this route.
So, I said, "Well, where are you going?"
[23:07] And well, one was going to Vermont
Avenue, one was going to call it out.
[23:10] All right,
I'm on the main.
[23:12] So, okay, you know, this is where you
you know, have to go. So, they knew that
[23:17] they could go up and around the moment
something happened to us the island.
[23:21] They would just stop going to the two
hours waiting and they wouldn't have had
[23:25] that. So, we turned around. But, as we
were doing that, he comes up and as he's
[23:30] pulling out, the train's backing up.
And literally [clears throat] four cars
[23:34] that cleared, they backed all the way
past the Federal Street Diner or um
[23:40] crossing. And it was between 34th and
Federal Street is where that train
[23:44] parked and it's that short for that.
So, I guess the big thing would be what
[23:48] I'm trying to get at is if you can talk
to them about possibly backing their
[23:52] stopping point
to just past Federal Street, they're
[23:56] still going to be within that distance
other than the SDI.
[24:00] You know.
>> We had that conversation and stopped at
[24:03] the Federal Street or when they change
crews, they got to have the stopping up
[24:06] here and blocking it.
Normally, we would stop at the
[24:09] wastewater treatment plant short of
there and change crews. But, on that
[24:13] 1050 the other day, they was uh
It's where the color master sent me a
[24:18] picture. There was nine cars short of
clearing that tracks. And that morning I
[24:22] knew you're nine short of clearing it.
On a 1050, I can see not moving the
[24:27] train until your investigation's done.
But, other times they've been short less
[24:31] than six cars and they would just pull
forward or backwards and clear it.
[24:34] And he said, "That is a trainability
issue that they need to discuss with
[24:39] their people."
>> Yeah, cuz I don't know how they do it
[24:42] when they're waiting for the train to
cross for the condo that priority. So,
[24:47] when it's coming up, they're
Why can't they back that stopping point
[24:50] up to
to at least that point, you know? So, at
[24:53] least that would save us a lot of time
with one track instead of two.
[24:58] So,
now I said
[25:00] » only that.
>> We'll we'll we'll we'll sit down and
[25:03] discuss that.
>> Can we do that again?
[25:06] » You maybe
jump on it two years unless there's an
[25:09] extension that we have to pick up.
I'm not interested in picking that up
[25:13] for $7,000 a year.
>> Right.
[25:16] » Okay. Anything else before we entertain
a motion to adjourn?
[25:23] Any motions?