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Okay, welcome everyone to uh September
8th uh city council meeting. September

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8th on a Tuesday because yesterday was
Labor Day and so uh here we are today on

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a Tuesday and I appreciate that. I know
we've got a special city council meeting

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tomorrow night as well and uh so a lot
of things going on this week. I will

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start out with the roll call please
Denise.

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» We have a quorum. Everyone's present.
>> Okay. Very good. And with that, uh,

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Grant Atkinson, uh, thank you for being
here. And if you want to come up and

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give us the invocation, appreciate that.
We'll follow up with the pledge of

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allegiance.

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All right, let's bow together. Honor our
creator. Heavenly Father, we u it's hard

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to bow our hearts and our heads without
just thanking you. Thank you for a good

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day. Thank you for the rain and the
regularity of it, how often we've gotten

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it. Thank you for that. Thank you for
our city. I thank you for the heritage

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and the history. How excit how much joy
that is to look through those for the

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years. And I thank you for our future.
And I thank you for this council, their

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concern, their time, their efforts that
they put in for our future. And I pray

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you'd guide them blessing this meeting
and all the ones to come in Jesus name.

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Amen.
>> Thank you, sir. Pledge of allegiance. I

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aliance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.

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» Not specifically on the agenda, but I
had uh talked before and it just didn't

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make it on there about a proclamation
and I'd like to go ahead and read that

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uh if I may. And uh this is regarding uh
the 25th anniversary of uh September

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11th, 2001. And um I'll go ahead and
read it. So a proclamation, Patriot Day

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and National Day of Service and
Remembrance. 25th anniversary of

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September 11th, 2001. Whereas on the
morning of September 11th, 2001,

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coordinated terrorist attacks were
carried out against the United States at

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the World Trade Center in New York at
the Pentagon in Virginia and aboard

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United Flight 93, which came down in a
field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. And

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whereas 2,977
people were killed that day and many

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more have died since from illnesses
connected to attacks and the recovery of

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work uh the recovery work that followed.
And whereas 343 firefighters and more

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than 70 law enforcement officers were
among those lost having gone toward the

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danger while others were coming out. And
whereas the passengers of and crew of

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flight 93 knowing what had already
happened this morning or that morning

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attack, excuse me, acted to prevent the
aircraft from reaching its target and

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gave their lives in doing it. And
whereas in the days that followed,

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Americans of every description stood
with one another, and this country was

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reminded what it is capable of when it
decided to be. And whereas 25 years have

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now passed, and a generation of
Americans has come of age with no memory

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of that morning, which makes the telling
of it a duty rather than a habit. And

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whereas the firefighters, police
officers, dispatchers, and emergency

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medical personnel who serve Canyon City
do the same work in our own community

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and are owed the same regard. And
whereas the public law uh 107-89,

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the Congress of the United States
designated September 11th as Patriot Day

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to be observed with the flag of the
United States displayed at half staff

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and with a moment of silence. Now
therefore, I Philon, mayor of city of

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Canyon City, Colorado, do hereby
proclaim Friday, September 11th, 2026 as

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Patriot Day and National Day of Service
and Remembrance in the City of Canyon

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City. And I call upon all citizens to
display the flag of the United States at

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half staff to observe a moment of
silence and to honor those who were lost

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and those who serve us still. We do not
forget them.

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Thank you. the proclamation.
Okay. Uh

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we are next going to deal with those who
are uh interested in speaking to the

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council. And right now I only have one
name and that's Jessica Hughes. And

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Jessica, you're welcome to come on
forward and present to the council.

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Thank you for coming.

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» Hello.
I'm just going to read you uh an

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introduction to it and then I'll pass
this off to you guys to go through it

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later on. Um I've been looking into the
possibility of bringing a Thomas Dambo

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troll into Canyon and if you don't know
who that is, he he builds giant troll

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troll sculptures out of recycled. Um we
have one in Breenidge and one in Victor.

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Uh I reached out to his team and
received some feedback about what we

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needed to do to apply for a future
project. And one of the requirements to

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have a troll, um, it must have an
official host organization and it can't

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be sponsored by an individual. Um, which
is why I'm bringing it to you guys. Uh,

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I've included the information they've
provided along with the correspondence

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of a semi semi pre-filled application
uh, in this pre presentation if anyone

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like to review it. The project cost for
the troll project according to Dambo's

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team is currently between approximately
350,000 and $580,000

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depending on the scope of installation.
And I know that sounds like a

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significant investment. Uh so I just
wanted to share that I spoke with the

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Royal Gorge Bridge and they already have
plans in their new contract for a troll

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and some additional figures that would
be placed inside the park. um they have

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the materials and in 2029 it will be
their 100th anniversary of the gorge and

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that's an achievable achievable time
frame to have the troll completed for a

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celebration. Um I've looked at several
possible locations and the one that

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stood out the most right now is right
outside the gorge. Uh they'll be fixing

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the trolley train as well and my idea is
to put the troll in the center of it

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with a crossing and trail to it. Um,
people could walk or ride around it and

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I think it's best put there because the
gorge has available in excess parking,

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it would remain free for the public to
visit and would still be accessible to

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view for those with mobility
limitations. Um, I do believe Canyon

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would be a strong candidate for this
consideration. And while currently

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Colorado has two Thomas Dambo trolls,
Denmark alone has over 50 of them,

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showing that these projects are beloved
attractions and are not shy from being

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close to one another. And I am simply
asking that we explore this opportunity.

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Uh submit a form to Dambo's team for
consideration. A project like this one

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could create a new landmark for Canyon,
encourage tourism, support local

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business, and give families and visitors
another reason to visit.

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And I have some pictures and I'm not
going to read the whole thing. Um I'll

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let you guys read it, but I kind of took
their

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form and kind of filled it out. there's
specific things that uh they were

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looking for for us to put in there. Um
and Miss Olive, the one that I've been

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talking to, uh she's she's looking
forward to seeing an application from us

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if we can find a host.
>> Okay, very good. Thank you. Uh just a

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couple questions. Um one, when is the
deadline that you need to uh submit

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that?
>> Whenever. It it doesn't have a deadline.

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» Okay. There's no deadline. Yeah. And um
would you be willing to come before the

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economic development committee and
present this more and we can figure out

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where the city wants to go with it
because you talked about tourism and a

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lot of other issues that uh would
certainly be good for the economics of

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our city uh to pursue something like
this.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh unless somebody else has

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another uh offer as far as where she
might go, but I'd like to see it go to

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economic development at least.
>> I think it I'm more than happy to have

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it go there. I think it also falls under
quality of life for the people who live

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here, but I'm very happy to have it go
to economic development.

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I agree with you. It uh serves both of
those purposes. Uh we'll start out with

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economic development and uh you'll
probably end up before quality of life

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as well.
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» Jessica, you got vision. Thank you.
>> Oh, thank you. Do Do you want a copy or

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do you want me to just wait until
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over to the clerk and uh we'll take care
of them from there.

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» Okay. She'll take care of them.
>> Okay. That's the only person that I've

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got for um dealing with uh those who
wish to speak before the council. I'm

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going to turn to the council members and
board updates. And uh why don't we start

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off with council member Schmisser as far
as your committee.

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» Sure. Happy to. Um so just a couple of
updates based on our meeting last week.

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Um, we do have a special city council
meeting tomorrow at 6 PM or whenever the

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urban renewal authority meeting ends to
deal specifically with Clock Tower

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Plaza. Just plugging that again. Um, one
of our big first initiatives in the

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public safety quality of life committee
has been the Mon Plaza natural play

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structure. Um, and Manny the mammoth on
Mon um is being ordered and the

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estimated arrival is in the next 12 to
14 weeks. So, we're hopeful that by the

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end of the year, we'll have the the new
place structure beginning to to take

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shape um there in Mon Plaza. For folks
who are interested in the library

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foundation's campaign around that and
supporting our library more generally on

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September 11th, which is this Friday, um
at 4 p.m. there they will have a

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fundraiser and music on Mon and kind of
getting folks excited about this new um

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natural place structure in Mon Plaza. Uh
there will be a moment of silence for

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the 25th anniversary of September 11th,
followed by uh local band and just a a

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good free time to be had by all. So
encourage folks to come down to Mon

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Plaza Friday between 4 to 7:00 p.m. Um
we also took a field trip over to the

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new restrooms at at Florence's Pioneer
Park um to take a look at what they have

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done well there and what we may want to
recommend for future public restrooms

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here in Canyon City. Um and we the
committee most significantly probably

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voted um to send a draft um ebike and
emoto ordinance um to city council upon

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incorporation of edits from the
committee and review by our attorneys.

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So those edits that um committee members
have sent over have been incorporated.

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It's going back to city staff for one
more deep dive look um as well as over

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to our attorneys for their input and
feedback. We've had a preliminary

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conversation with the school district um
superintendent about partnering on uh

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public engagement and a public education
campaign around um what is legal uh here

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in the state of Colorado and um they are
looking forward to partnering with us on

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that. So, more to come on next steps.
Um, and then lastly, we have um our next

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public safety quality of life committee
meeting is scheduled for October 7th at

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400 PM here at city hall. Thanks.
>> You're welcome. And thank you. And uh

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let's just talk about the the e
motorcycles just for a second, a little

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longer if we can as far as coming out of
there. So, uh, the police chief was

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there and, uh, there are things that are
illegal already under the laws of the

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state of Colorado and, uh, we're looking
at some things, uh, specifically for,

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uh, Canyon City. Correct.
>> Yes. So, currently in Canyon City, there

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are some things that are illegal, like
riding class one and class 2 ebikes on

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the Riverwalk. Um, so, one of the things
that this ordinance would do is take

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away that restriction. a lot of people
are already riding ebikes and we want to

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make sure that we don't have regulations
on the books that aren't being enforced.

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The other um aspect of this ordinance is
it's looking at how do you ensure that

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once education is appropriately done
around what the state of Colorado allows

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and doesn't allow that the police have
the appropriate enforcement tools um to

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actually hold people accountable for
those state laws um to ensure the public

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safety for the the kids in our community
as well as pedestrians and um business

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owners that are facing a lot of
challenges due to uh various types of e

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motos that are being written around
town. So it does um it would give our

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law enforcement additional tools um
things like making it uh eluding

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behavior, reckless driving, careless
driving, and also parental

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responsibility for minors who are
repeatedly found um using vehicles that

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they are not lawfully allowed to to
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» Okay. So, if you're watching this at
home or wherever, um this is something

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the council is taking up. Uh it's an
important issue to a lot of people and

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uh I've certainly seen the wheelies down
Main Street as well myself and uh so

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we're going to take that on. One other
point that they might consider, Amy, is

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the fact that uh we're also looking at
property uh that they might do this

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legally. If you want to expand on that.
>> Sure. Absolutely. So, city staff have

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looked at a couple of different
properties around town um that would

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that the city already owns and frankly
where where some of this behavior is

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already taking place um to ensure that
folks do have a place where they can

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recreate um with equipment that they own
in a way that is safer and that is

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legal. One of the one of the pieces of
the public education that we're looking

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forward to moving forward with is really
engaging with some of the users of these

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vehicles so that we better understand
would that meet their needs? Would it be

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used? Um and if not, what what is the
gap? How do we ensure that folks have

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their needs met? Um and while also being
safe and not causing quality of life and

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safety concerns for others.
>> Yep. And I'm excited about that that

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we're not only looking at putting
additional rules in that changes that

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behavior uh from a safety mechanism
because we certainly don't want anyone

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hurt and certainly this the kids that
are using this, but uh I'm excited that

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we're also looking at property that uh
can uh be used in a safe way and uh I

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know we've got citizens who are out
there looking at that and appreciate

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them doing so.
>> Absolutely. Okay. I think just so folks

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know, the the property that the city
staff um are looking at first is that uh

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that which is directly to the east of
Canyon Exploratory School. Um it already

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has a natural ravine and already has
features that a lot of folks enjoy um

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recreating on with these types of
vehicles. One of the biggest challenges

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and a hurdle that will would have to be
overcome is how do you uh lawfully and

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safely get the vehicles up to that
space, right? So again, looking forward

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to the public education and public
engagement to make sure that we

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understand um why those uh how how that
space can best be used and where that

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space needs to be located to ensure that
it meets those needs.

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» Okay. Thank you for taking extra time.
Uh Council Member Tony, finance

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committee, finance, budget, and
>> yeah, thank you. So our next meeting

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will be September
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be really all about the budget. uh if
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this year, is there some critical
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We'll be investigating that along with
an update uh on the 2027 budget. Uh

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we'll also be uh exploring the
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for our police department. So, invite
everybody to come to that. Um and that

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that's about it for this this week.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um next one, economic

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development committee met at 4:00 today
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Uh we looked at a policy issue that uh
the council may consider uh dealing with

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sign ordinance that have been passed in
the in the past and uh I won't get into

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too much detail on that. Just know that
it's being looked at. I do want to

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remind everyone that uh we have a
consultant that uh is looking at uh the

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functions of city government and uh I
think all of us are behind that. I'm

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looking forward to that report coming
out and um they've already met with a

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number of individuals when the
consultant was in town including all the

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members of the the council and a lot of
business people and I think that uh

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there's a survey that's been completed
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he wants to but the survey has been
completed as far as the draft of how

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it's going to be and I think that's
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we should have that report back in a
couple months and uh sooner the better

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but That's what we're looking at. And C
or um city administrator, you're welcome

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to give any update on that you'd like,
but uh that's an important economic

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development issue.
>> Yeah, we received the link for the uh

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final survey today, so we'll be putting
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» Okay, very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh any
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» Council member Reeves?
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We never uh talked about that again. I
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future to review the committees and the
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it.
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conversation do we need to have about
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» So, uh the city administrator and I have
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thought that uh
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» Great. So, everyone gets that. I don't
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just said we're recording. So all good.
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of uh retreatish kind of thing after the
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putting it on that time frame of
November uh at this point. One of the

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things that came out of it with uh when
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kind of committee of the whole as well
as the committees, but that is all

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subject to uh discussion. But uh having
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there are committees that are active
with budgets and everything else and

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that gets us uh it's only two months
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time. Council member Reeves,
>> aren't we going to just do the same

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thing in a couple months and be like,
well, we have other stuff we have to do

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then and people are committed to it. I
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other committees. I'm sure other members
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into uh us dealing with a lot of these
issues. Um, I'm finding that there's I'm

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having to do too much homework. I I most
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the committee that I'm actually in. And
uh spending hours doing not what this

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this committee structure promised to do.
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we need to pull it up of us talking
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this. And so I'd like to do it a lot
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» Okay. Right now, we're having a
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to uh exactly what uh we're dealing with
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think we need to talk about timing and
when that can happen. And uh I'm not

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certain that uh with all the things
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issues that I want to bring up as well.
Uh in fact, I'm going to bring them up

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right now. Um the uh based on that that
I think there's uh an equal priority

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with that and I do see Sarah that you're
online and we'll discuss that. Um, but

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we need to do an annual review on the
city administrator and that's going to

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take some time. That goes into executive
session of course and that is nothing to

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do with uh anything other than that is
standard practice. I also believe that

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we should do a review of uh the
attorneys. Uh that's something that uh

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would be practiced as well. And so those
are two things on the agenda. We've got

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drain or um uh ditch issues that we have
to deal with. There's just a lot before

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the council and it's a matter of when we
can fit that all in. But I do believe

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that uh uh typically in August or
September uh the city administrator is

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up for review. Uh and that's good for
him and it's good for us. And so I want

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to get that on the agenda and again uh
the attorneys as well. So just uh we do

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have a lot going on. That's why we are
focused on November and uh specifically

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at a a meeting that would be a little
longer. Council member Eaves, you're

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still up for speaking. Do you want to do
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» Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I also agree
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committees in a timely manner. Um I
believe that it is important to how this

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body functions for us to have a good
grasp on what the other committees are

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doing and be able to have conversations
amongst ourselves as well. So I'm not

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going to commit myself to a time frame,
but I do agree with council member

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Reeves that we need to make sure that
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right now it's not going to get lost uh
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November. If uh somebody wants to push
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uh there's a lot on our plate and I
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things. And so when the city
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the time frame we were looking at.
Uh again, I've got you still on there,

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Sarah. We um we're not taking them off
correctly with Okay. Now, Council Member

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Schmer and then Council Member Denny.
>> Thanks. Could I ask for a bit more

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clarity on the retreat agenda and focus?
I agree with you that [snorts] it uh

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it's a conversation that we've had a
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perhaps a lengthier discussion so that
we can come to resolution and a way

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forward. So, I'd like to better
understand what the intended structure

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of the retreat would be. um who would be
coming, how long we would be discussing

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this, what other items would be on the
agenda so that I can understand if it is

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likely to produce um a way forward on
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Thanks.
>> Yep. I'm happy to discuss what I know

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and what I don't know which is right now
it's preliminary discussion. We have

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simply talked about timing. city
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this point but uh we he is uh aware of
consultants specifically have dealt with

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uh cities and uh he is uh going to be uh
bringing those forward um so those are

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the issues from a timing standpoint um
we have an election year coming up uh

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five of us are up for election or at
least five positions the mayor and four

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council members and we wanted to get
this in prior to uh the burdens of an

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election and all those kind of things um
because of just what's coming down the

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pike. And so November after an election
uh made sense at least to me and I think

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uh I won't speak for the city
administrator but uh from a timing

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standpoint we're past uh we'll know
about the pool and we'll know about a

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lot of other stuff and that seemed like
a good timing as far as uh content

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haven't got into it much other than it
would be a good thing for the council to

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spend some time with one another.
>> Thank you. Um I just because I saw some

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some looks of confusion. And I believe
the mayor was referring to the 2027

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election is when city council seats
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» Correct.
>> Um so I want us to have enough time to

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discuss this. I'm a bit concerned just
because the first retreat um I I didn't

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receive the notes or the action items or
the doouts from it. So I'm I'm a little

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bit concerned that if that based on how
the first one went that we may not um

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come to a conclusion on this topic that
has been hanging out there for for quite

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a while now. um unless it really is the
focus of say half of the day. Um so I

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wouldn't be opposed to having a a
meeting of the whole specifically on

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this and no other agenda items to to
just make sure that we do um move

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forward on it.
>> Yeah. Uh there is um staff um I think

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position as far as the the particular uh
committees as well and uh I've I've seen

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that I think the attorneys might have
drafted something. I believe that um if

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you guys want to talk about it next
week, we can have a special city council

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meeting, but uh you know my position,
which is I'm in favor of citizens being

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involved just as much as possible. And
uh that's um I think in November and

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letting them run out their course is a
good thing. But if uh the council wants

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to meet next week or the following week
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You're still on. Um Denise, I think you
need to pull people off when they get

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done. I'm not certain how that works,
but uh it just keeps people on. Council

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member Deni.
>> Yeah, I just I think we need to meet

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within the next week or two and just
have a discussion on this. I think

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you're hearing from four council members
right now and I don't know if anybody

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else has views on this, but I think it'd
be good just for us to have a discussion

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in within the next week or two. I think
that'd be very good for all of us. Thank

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you.
Uh is there anybody that uh has any

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other thoughts on that?
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» Yeah, I think uh we we need to put some
thought in this for sure, but there's a

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lot going on. You have the budget u
among many other things and to do it

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next week. I don't think that's a
timely. It's a knee-jerk reaction. I

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think let's plan it, do it right, and uh
you know, that way we can set our goals

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for the for the upcoming year and all
that at one time. Council

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member McCuller.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, Council Member

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Tony, I hear what you're saying. Uh, I
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a knee-jerk situation because I don't
think that Council Member Tony or

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Council Member Reeves, and correct me if
I'm wrong, I don't think he's trying to

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start a discussion about shaking things
up and doing everything different. I

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think we're just having a conceptual
discussion about how we want the

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committees to look. So like the
committees would continue their work

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ostensibly, but we need to have a
conversation about how we want the

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committees to look going forward. And I
don't know if next week is appropriate,

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but I don't see why the week after
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» Council Member Worthington,
>> um, speaking of the budget meeting this

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Thursday, that's an example of where
that is set up for a committee. However,

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to me, every one of us here, this is
something I'm going to try and have to

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come to because in the past, we have all
been involved in the speaking and

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talking about the budget. And yet, as
far as right now, unless we're a member

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of the committee or can find time again
to out of our other lives, we are not

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going to be as involved or as informed
as we should be regarding the proposed

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budget plus what's going on with this
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» Uh, Council Member Reeves,
>> I would say to a lot of these uh these

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issues are so important comments. if
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council needs to address them. And I
think that that's been the issue that I

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have this whole time is that council's
kind of been separated and not really

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dealing with the issues. We're we're
finding out these things like way later

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or or you know, we're seeing a as far as
I'm concerned, I'm seeing the committee

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slow dragging stuff. Your committee slow
drugged the pool for six months. Could

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have pushed a lot stuff a lot quicker.
your committees, the economic committee,

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we've what a 300 foot or 300 foot zoning
thing and we're chasing some plan you

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have that you haven't been able to
illustrate exactly what the problem is

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yet and I've asked you a bunch of times.
You couldn't even illustrate the issue

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in the committee and I asked it and then
I asked it again on council when I

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brought it up. You still have not been
able to illustrate the exact issue but

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you love to bring up anecdotes all the
time. So that's I think and this is

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exactly kind of my point. You're
separating us on purpose. So I'll just

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call it out. You're separating us on
purpose. I'm not going to be afraid to

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call out your BS anymore. I want to
review this quicker because you're doing

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this on purpose.
>> Council member Reeves, I'm not even

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going to acknowledge what you're
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» I don't care if you do.
>> I I do not even understand what you're

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giving
>> all kinds of crap online. I'll say

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whatever I want.
>> Okay, sir. You're almost out of order,

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so I'm going to call you on it. Phil,
>> I will say whatever I want. Phil, you're

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not my boss. This is freedom of speech.
I was elected. You were not.

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» Okay. Uh, Council Member Tony.
>> Yeah. Um, I'm pretty sure we we post

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these and any council member that wants
to attend one of these meetings are

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welcome to. Is that not correct?
>> That is correct. Okay.

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» So, you can always attend the economic
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the budget.
>> Weren't you the guy talking about

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wasting all kinds of hours doing all
this and now you want to talk about me

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wasting all kinds of hours. You were the
guy talking about we were going to waste

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all kinds of hours. You were also the
guy I'm going to bring up. Council

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member Reeves, you were out of line.
>> I just talk loud. I'm not out of line.

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She
>> You were not advised. You were not

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advised that Council Member Tony had the
phone.

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» I'm still up. I'm number one. He's
number That's only

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» I'm number one. He's number two.
I brought this up. I bring these issues

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up because you're not willing to listen
to us. That's the problem here. You're

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you're trying to sidestep this. You
brought you yourself cut down one of the

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committees yourself. You muted it and
then shut off video. And hold on. And

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then you And then Ben Googans called you
out on it. Called you out on No, no, no.

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Stop. And then called you out on showing
up here.

403
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:10,000
» Can you call him out of order? I
>> was No, you're trying to cut me off. Ben

404
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,279
Gugggins called you out for showing up
here with information that your

405
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:17,279
committee did not produce.
>> That's what you got called out publicly

406
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:22,399
for and then publicly you shut off the
video. You shut off the the mic because

407
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:26,000
you don't know how to handle people.
Council member Reeves neither one of you

408
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:28,640
do pushing back and neither one of you
like it.

409
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:31,440
» Council member Reeves, uh, you are out
of line right now. You are you are

410
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,919
attacking push back.
>> You are attacking individual members and

411
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200
it needs to
>> I'm calling out the mistakes you've made

412
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,760
in your committees. Council member Tony,
you have the floor.

413
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:43,200
» You silence the citizens you want to
listen to.

414
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:48,799
» So, we had we had multiple meetings. We
let the citizens speak for over 60% of

415
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:53,919
the time. Our last meeting, you're
talking about the ballot meeting. We had

416
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:58,960
to get some work done.
So, the team worked. We ran out of time

417
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720
and we finished.
>> That's supposed to be on video. Let me

418
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,039
finish.
>> You're the one calling out video.

419
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,880
» Can for the rec district.
>> Can you council member him or something?

420
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:11,039
You need to please let council member
Tony finish his statements.

421
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:16,320
» Go ahead, council member Tony.
>> So, the same people were there at each

422
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:23,679
meeting. We had our working meeting
session that day and that's what we did.

423
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:27,919
» And you shut off the video and the mic
and continued on without other people.

424
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,240
And then you No, no. And then you
publicly called out the recck district.

425
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,159
You called out the recck district for
not putting their stuff out. And you

426
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,080
silenced people.
>> Okay.

427
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,640
» Okay. Council member Tony, you still
have the floor. Are you completed?

428
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:50,159
» I'm I'm not answering.
>> Okay. Council member Denah

429
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:55,200
just so we can kind of go on. I think it
would be a good idea like I said a

430
00:31:52,159 --> 00:32:00,559
minute ago to to to just have a
discussion with this and with council

431
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:04,000
because you know somebody mentioned here
that you know you could go to all the

432
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:10,640
meetings. you know, that's a that's a
time thing for all of us and uh

433
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:15,360
and you I'm not going to I have heard
from some people on on one [snorts]

434
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,399
other committee and I just think it's
time that we have a discussion about

435
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:22,960
this and I think it should be done
within the next week or two.

436
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:28,080
» There is no objection to that. I think
we've talked about uh that being the

437
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:32,159
case. So, um let's uh figure out a time
that would be there. Uh I would like to

438
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,159
get on the docket though. uh time for
the city administrator review and a time

439
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:40,799
for the attorney review that needs to
happen sometime in September, early

440
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,960
October. I've already had um this is not
a surprise to Ryan whatsoever. Uh he and

441
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:50,320
I have discussed that and making sure
that uh this uh the council has goals

442
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:55,440
for him, etc. So, let's talk about uh
that one first because I think it's a it

443
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:59,600
needs to happen. So, I don't know what
we want to do for uh finding that time.

444
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Um I know you're going to be gone in
late September. Uh do you want to go for

445
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:07,760
the 1 of October? Will that uh meet
where you want to be?

446
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:12,399
» Yeah. So the way it has worked in the
past is uh city council will have an

447
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:18,240
executive session without me
>> and uh discuss and then um two weeks

448
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,960
later a city council meeting there'd be
an executive session with me to go over

449
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,760
those discussions.
>> That's very helpful. So we can go ahead

450
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:29,360
and have something in late September
when you're out of town and uh or at

451
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:33,600
least not at work and uh go from there.
So, um, we'll go ahead and work with the

452
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,919
clerk and I'll get some times out when
we can, uh, do that. And again, I think

453
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,640
a separate one would be, uh, Deacon
reviewing the attorneys and, uh, how

454
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:48,559
that is working for us as well. Uh, with
that, we'll plan on the 23rd or after.

455
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:52,559
And, uh, Council Member Schmider, uh,
I'm looking for the next thing I'm

456
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,279
trying to get to is a time for us to
make a discussion about the committee

457
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,360
structure.
>> Thank you. I just wanted I was on the

458
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,840
contracts committee previously so I just
uh had pressed the button to provide the

459
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,320
input that Ryan had provided about how
the structure was done in the past. The

460
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:11,040
last time that we [clears throat]
reviewed the city attorneys, um I think

461
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:15,839
a very key piece of that was sending out
a survey to the department heads because

462
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:19,359
the city staff department heads
obviously interact quite frequently with

463
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:25,119
the attorneys as well and having their
input um about how the attorneys are and

464
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:29,040
um could be serving their departments
even better. Um I I thought was a very

465
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,079
valuable part of that process. So, just
wanted to put that out there because I

466
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,240
believe you and Council Member Denahhee
are the new contracts committee um uh

467
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,800
appointees.
>> Yep. Sounds good. And uh again, I'm

468
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:44,960
trying to uh set up the agenda as the
mayor at least from a docket standpoint

469
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:50,399
of this is the timing that uh we would
deal with these things. Again, we've

470
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:54,159
made a commitment uh to uh the um drain
people that we would have uh something

471
00:34:52,320 --> 00:35:00,400
done in September and I want to keep
that commitment with them as well. Okay.

472
00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:04,320
Um, we'll get uh uh the poll out as far
as timing. When do you want to meet uh

473
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:10,520
council members as far as the committee
structure? Let's get a time on the the

474
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,520
dates and done.

475
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Council member McCuller.
>> Uh to clarify, you're asking us to

476
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,280
suggest dates right now to figure out
>> I am. I I think that one you guys are

477
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:24,240
viewing this as a top priority, so let's
get a date.

478
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:29,520
» I do have a suggestion. Um I was
thinking maybe Wednesday the 23rd. or do

479
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:32,560
we want to go into October?
>> I want to make sure we get these other

480
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:38,720
things done at least with the uh
administrator. Um if uh we're looking at

481
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:42,960
the next council meeting is the 21st. Um
we're looking at the city administrator

482
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,280
likely review uh sometime between the
23rd and the 30th.

483
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,000
» Okay.
>> So

484
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:53,119
» so it it would really need to be the
maybe the first week of October.

485
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,640
» Yeah. The committee uh structure is
going to be an open session. The other

486
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:01,040
one is not. If we want to do a special
city council meeting on maybe the 23rd

487
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:05,920
or 24th, uh we'll start out with an
executive session at 5:00 and we can go

488
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:09,599
into a special city council meeting uh
dealing with the committee structure. If

489
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:16,240
you want to do that, I suggest that uh
we do so on the 23rd or the 29th.

490
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:20,000
» I am open to the 23rd for that
suggestion.

491
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:24,720
» I have a conflict at five, but I could
make six on the 23rd. Six on the 23rd.

492
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,800
I'd like to see us do the executive
session and the uh other one to pile

493
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,680
those on together if we could do that.
Um what about the 29th?

494
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,320
» What's that?
>> Yeah. Or the 30th.

495
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:45,599
» The 30th would work better for me.
>> Is there any opposition to the 30th?

496
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,839
Executive session at 5:00 dealing with
city administrative review. And at 30 on

497
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,320
the 30th at 6, we'll have a special city
council meeting focused on the uh

498
00:36:52,320 --> 00:37:00,320
committee structure.
>> Sounds like a plan.

499
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:04,400
» Anybody again posted
>> on the 23rd? The 30th is great.

500
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,280
» Okay. We're going to go ahead and set
that up. That's exactly what we'll do.

501
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:13,200
And again, uh the time on the 30th at 6
o'clock will be public. uh the time with

502
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,680
the executive session assuming that's
where we're going to go but uh we are

503
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:21,440
going to do it because it's a personnel
issue uh is going to be on the 23rd.

504
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Okay. Very good. Uh any other comments
uh on the agenda from council members?

505
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,920
City administrator uh if you could go
through uh the agenda.

506
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,440
» Yes sir.
>> Agenda.

507
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:38,960
» Thank you. Uh item 7A is to approve the
minutes for the regular city council

508
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:44,880
meeting on August 17th. the special
meetings on August 17th and August 24th.

509
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Uh we did have a correction in the
regular city council meeting minutes and

510
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:56,640
those have been updated. Uh we had a
marked mayor prom absent for one of the

511
00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:01,839
votes and she had actually voted nay. So
that has been corrected. 7B declare

512
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:10,079
surplus equipment and authorized
disposal per the city purchasing policy.

513
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:16,560
7C is award bid one uh 114-26
anthraite coal purchase to anthro filter

514
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:21,040
in an amount not to exceed $17,955.
7D is to receive and ratify cash

515
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,680
dispersements. 7E is to receive and file
cash dispersements.

516
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:30,320
Okay. Is there any questions for uh the
city administrator regarding uh the

517
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:33,280
consent agenda?
Okay. Okay, I'll look for a motion to

518
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:38,400
approve uh the agenda and the consent
agenda with the changes uh on that one

519
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:42,240
set of minutes.
Council member Maloney.

520
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,000
» Thank you. I move to approve the agenda
and consent agenda with the

521
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,160
aformentioned corrections.
>> Council member Deni

522
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:53,960
» second.
>> Any discussion on the motion?

523
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,960
Let's go ahead and vote

524
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,079
and the clerk will read that one.
>> Passed by majority vote of members

525
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:07,200
present.
>> Okay. Very good. Thank you very much.

526
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:13,119
Administrator's report, please.
>> Yeah. So, you have the written report uh

527
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:17,200
in the packet. Uh does mention the
ballot language. Uh we received the

528
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:21,040
proof today. We had a couple corrections
that's gone back to the county. So, uh,

529
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:26,640
we're expecting the second proof
tomorrow. Uh, we've had some meetings

530
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,920
with four mile ranch and four mile the
representatives of four mile ranch would

531
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,320
like to come and present to city council
at some point. So, uh, we will have to

532
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:38,400
find a date for that so we can send out
a doodle poll for that um because we

533
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,079
also need to coordinate with their
schedules as well. So, we'll try and f

534
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:47,200
find some dates that will uh work for
everybody. Uh, we already discussed the

535
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,640
city gate survey. Uh those will be go
that will be going out tomorrow. I think

536
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,920
we're going to have it open or they're
planning on having it open for two to

537
00:39:52,160 --> 00:40:01,599
three weeks.
Um and then title 19, so the storm water

538
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:07,839
um and ditch issue. Uh we have some
emails going back and forth between the

539
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:12,960
uh city staff and attorneys um buttoning
up some red lines. Uh we will need to

540
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:17,760
set that for a meeting as well because I
believe we told the uh ditch companies

541
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,760
that we would have that as a as a
meeting.

542
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,200
» We did indeed.
>> Is that the report?

543
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,720
» That is the report. So we we yeah I
think from me title 19 setting a date

544
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,800
for that discussion.
>> Okay. I'll get that on I do uh just want

545
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,560
to bring a question uh before you and
you've already prepped you that uh

546
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:39,599
that's the case. So data centers uh the
county just took uh and did a moratorum

547
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:44,000
on data centers. Can you give us uh any
update that you're aware of as far as

548
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:47,119
data centers and uh here in Canyon City?
>> Yeah, we we have not received any

549
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:52,400
applications or interest that I'm aware
of for data centers here. Um the the big

550
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,480
data centers that are all in the news
right now that are very controversial,

551
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:02,000
uh we don't have the infrastructure to
serve a data center of those that size.

552
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Um as a matter of fact, talking to Black
Hills Energy, uh it'd be very hard for

553
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,119
PBLO to serve a data center of that
size.

554
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:12,319
» Okay. So, you don't anticipate that any
action is needed. It's just simply our

555
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,800
infrastructure is not going to get there
and uh we've got nothing uh out there

556
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,079
whatsoever. So, any rumors that are out
there that we're dealing with data

557
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:23,839
centers, that's not the case.
>> That's correct.

558
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:28,960
» Okay. Very good. Uh council members,
>> thank you. I have a couple of follow-up

559
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:33,520
questions. When you say the uh county
clerk sent back corrections to the

560
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:37,440
ballot language, um are there actual
verbiage changes?

561
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:41,119
» No. No, these are typographical
uh what's actually going on the ballot.

562
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:45,760
So, we found some typos, some duplicate
language, things like that that we sent

563
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:50,160
back to them. Um so, they they'll be
sending the corrected proof back to us.

564
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:53,920
This is the actual proof that will be on
the ballot.

565
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:58,160
» Okay. Thank you. Um with regard to the
four mile presentation, obviously defer

566
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,800
to them as to whether or not it would be
feasible, but I would love to have that

567
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,760
presentation up there um to kind of have
a guided tour from them. Um I I think it

568
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,880
would be really helpful to understand
from a a spatial context as to what

569
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,280
they're planning. Okay.
>> For where um but defer to them if they

570
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:19,040
had a different vision in mind.
>> Does coun the rest of council okay with

571
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:23,359
that.
>> Yeah.

572
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:28,800
» Yeah. We'll see what we can arrange.
>> Thank you. And then the Oh, sorry. I had

573
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:32,960
one. Sorry. Sorry, Deputy Clerk Warren.
I had one more. Um, with regard to this

574
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:39,119
survey and having it open for the next
two to three weeks, are they uh limiting

575
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:43,440
it so that uh one ISP address can only
reply once? How are we planning to push

576
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,000
it out and promote it? Who's the target
audience? Are we all um supposed to be

577
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:51,920
pushing it out to all of our networks?
Is the city doing that? Is it everyone?

578
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,280
Could you walk us through a little bit
more kind of what does success look like

579
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:58,800
for this survey? Thanks. I
>> I will have to double check on the ISP

580
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:03,520
address question. And I don't know the
answer to that question right now. Uh as

581
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:07,280
it relates to the survey we are going to
be sending out to uh contractors those

582
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:11,680
who have been through the development
process that we have emails for. Uh we

583
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:16,079
will be putting it on social media with
the caveat that um it's very specific to

584
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,680
this development process. So we're
looking for people who have been through

585
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,200
the development process to answer the
questions and there's there's a couple

586
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:28,560
of offramps within the questionnaire as
well that ask those questions to

587
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:32,400
confirm. Um, so, uh, we'll be pushing it
a couple times, uh, well, more than a

588
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,800
couple times through the city, uh,
resources.

589
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960
» Wonderful. It's great to hear that
you're sending it directly to those who

590
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,880
have already been through our
development process as well. If you are

591
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:47,680
able to confirm kind of how they're
planning to do the data control around

592
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:50,000
it to ensure that the results are as um,
as useful as possible. That would be

593
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,040
much appreciated.
>> Absolutely.

594
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,119
» Okay. Okay. And just for clarification
on that survey, it is for the

595
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:02,400
consultants that uh are dealing with the
processes within city government. Okay.

596
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Uh all set for the administrator's
report. We're good.

597
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,920
» Yes, sir.
>> Moving on to number nine, discussion

598
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,760
about the community recycling update.
City administrator on that one.

599
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,839
» Yeah. We have uh representatives from
Apex here to talk about their new

600
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:22,800
community recycling program and ask them
to come up at this point.

601
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:26,160
Welcome gentlemen or sir.
>> Good evening. Um evening

602
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,839
» really appreciate the opportunity to
address.

603
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,680
» Make sure you're nice and close to that
mic. Appreciate it.

604
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,160
» Can you hear me? Okay. Yep.
>> Um appreciate the opportunity to address

605
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:38,160
council. Um my name is Scott Lucash,
founder of uh Apex and President and I'm

606
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:43,280
joined here with our general manager
Chris Broshu. Um the goal today is is

607
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:46,560
really to bring some just information
and awareness to what's going on in the

608
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:51,440
state and how it's going to impact
Canyon residents. Um you may have

609
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,440
noticed a lot of uh carts getting
delivered. There are recycling carts

610
00:44:52,880 --> 00:45:00,319
with blue lids to residents in this
community. And a little background, let

611
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:05,520
me just make sure that this works. A
little background on this program. Um

612
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:11,520
EPR is what it's called. It was it was
passed um in 22. It's taken about four

613
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,640
years to kind of get to the stage today
uh where we're we're in the process of

614
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:19,440
implementing it. And essentially what
it's going to do Colorado as a whole has

615
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:24,720
really struggled with diversion and
recycling. Um EPR is coming in and what

616
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:29,839
they are doing is the the producers are
funding am I moving the pro? Sorry about

617
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:36,960
that. Um
the producers are funding the program um

618
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:40,800
paying into it to get you know really ac
uh accessibility to recycling to all

619
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:46,720
residents whether you're in a rural
community in Denver in in Colorado

620
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:52,240
Springs, PBLO or Canyon City. And it's
going to make recycling um affordable in

621
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:57,440
that there is no cost to the resident.
Um and it it's going to you know we're

622
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:01,280
going to provide a rollout cart uh Apex
submitted for a reimburse a

623
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,359
reimbursement rate. So once the program
goes live which we are really close to

624
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,599
we think it could start September
October um that we will get reimbursed

625
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:16,480
for curbside recycling at the curb. So
it's going to be accessible to all

626
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:19,599
residents here at no charge. Um the cool
thing is we did we started doing

627
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,920
communication on this about two months
ago just letting you know informing our

628
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,319
customers hey this is coming our you
know let us know if you don't want to

629
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:32,880
participate. We anticipated you know a
pretty high opt out ratio. Um,

630
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:39,119
surprisingly in the last, you know, 2
months, we we we've only gotten less

631
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:43,359
than 5% almost 2 or 3%. That said, hey,
I don't want to participate. I don't

632
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:47,920
have room. Um, you know, other reasons
and what that was for. But, uh, what

633
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:51,040
it's telling me is that the residents do
want to recycle here. Um, and we're

634
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:55,680
seeing it in the other communities where
we provide service. So, it's it's a new

635
00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:00,319
program. This is the biggest thing that
probably has happened on recycling and

636
00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:05,839
waste collection in 20 25 years in the
state. And you know the the real motive

637
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:09,760
of the program is to just give access to
every community and um you know rural

638
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,760
communities have been a real challenge
with recycling because the reality is

639
00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:17,760
it's you know from a cost perspective
it's really difficult to make sense

640
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:22,079
economically for it. This takes that off
the table and gives access to even the

641
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,599
most remote communities in the state.
So, we just wanted an opportunity to

642
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:30,319
really come down and talk to you a
little bit about what the program is in

643
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:35,040
case that you get questions. And it is,
you know, a statewide and and Apex is

644
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:41,280
participating member of the program, the
EPR program that is administered by a

645
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:46,480
company called Circular Action Alliance.
So, um we're dropping carts at residents

646
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,520
and and you know, the response has been
great. Uh a lot of people call in and

647
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,920
say, "Hey, when am I going to get our
cart?" So, the one thing we

648
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:59,200
underestimated is we we didn't know what
percentage of the community would

649
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:02,560
participate and um and we're getting a
surprise, you know, surprising reaction,

650
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,400
a lot more than we anticipated
originally, which is great um because we

651
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:10,560
didn't know, you know, there there's no
Colorado EPR program is really the first

652
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:16,560
of its kind where it's addressing
processing and collection at the same

653
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:20,400
time. Um it did go into Oregon u a
little earlier, but that was just on the

654
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:24,319
processing side. So the model of what
Colorado is doing probably will be the

655
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,240
model for the rest of the country. So I
think there everybody's watching this

656
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:31,760
very closely but a lot of people didn't
know about it. So, you know, we asked if

657
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:36,640
we could join here tonight and just at a
high level just, you know, tell you what

658
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:39,839
what it's all about. Um, kind of our
initial response from the residents,

659
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,440
which has been very over, you know,
overwhelmingly positive and and and and

660
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,359
what we're trying to accomplish and and
you know, the the best thing is we have

661
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,160
a landfill here in town, but we want to
maximize the life of that landfill. And

662
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,240
hopefully, you know, it's the only
landfill that, you know, is ever in the

663
00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:02,319
county. um but you know by diverting
more and and it's usually estimated that

664
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:06,960
35% of your waist stream is recyclable.
So, I would say the one comment we're

665
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:12,000
getting back is maybe I don't know if I
generate enough recycling to make sense

666
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,880
of the program. And so, our customer
service people are trying to educate,

667
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,839
hey, here's what's recyclable, you know,
and and think about the Amazon effect.

668
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Every cardboard box is recyclable. Um,
you know, your plastics are highly

669
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:28,319
recyclable. Um, you're going to see the
producers, um, and the producers backing

670
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:34,640
this program are the Walmart, Walmarts,
Coke, Pepsi, the all the names we know.

671
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:40,000
They're going to make their packaging um
more recyclable. Um get away from some

672
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:44,800
of the the the the commodities that are
less, you know, make less econ economic

673
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,680
sense to do their packaging in. And
they're going to try to get it in ones

674
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:53,119
and twos, which are highly recyclable,
highly reusable. So, it's a it's a new

675
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:56,640
program. Um and we just wanted to get in
front, like I said, because I I know you

676
00:49:55,119 --> 00:50:01,440
might be getting calls, hey, what is
this all about? Um and we want you to be

677
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:05,599
prepared for the the answer. But uh it's
at no cost to the resident and actually

678
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:10,640
the the customers that are seeing the
recycling uh that are participating in

679
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,400
the program before this went into effect
will see their bill go down because that

680
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:18,000
the recycling portion of it will come
off and it'll get reimbursed through the

681
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:24,079
the PRO which is administering the
program. So yeah, this is just a little

682
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:28,240
overview of what we've done. Um kind of
how we're uh you know, our early

683
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:33,839
communication informing the our
residents. Cart delivery started last

684
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:38,960
week. Um we hope to to start our
collection the 21st. Uh- which would be

685
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:43,599
the first collection day for these new
customers that have just received carts.

686
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:47,599
So, um, we're we're moving right along
and, um, really excited about the

687
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:51,200
program, but a lot of people are, you
know, just not aware of, hey, what is

688
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,760
this all about? Where did this come
from? And that that was a little of the

689
00:50:52,720 --> 00:51:01,200
history. So, um, we have a lot of good
resources on our website. Um, if you go

690
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:05,280
to uh our the Apex website locally, we
have a whole page dedicated to what the

691
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:11,280
program is all about, how it works, who
to contact if you have questions um as

692
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:14,960
as the program rolls out in full. So,
that was really the extent of it, but uh

693
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,200
you certainly could open it any
questions if that's appropriate.

694
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:22,319
» Just uh define Apex as far as who you
are and then I've got a whole list of

695
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,119
people who want to ask you some
questions.

696
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:30,559
» Yeah. So, so Apex Twin Envirro, we we
are the local uh waste and recycling

697
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:35,359
provider here in Canyon City. Um been
operating for many many years. Um I ca I

698
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:41,119
purchased the company um with some
investors uh about three year four year

699
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:44,880
two years ago um from from the the the
prior owner who was just nearing

700
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,240
retirement age. So yeah, we've been in
this community for a long long time and

701
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,880
yeah, we provide all the waste and
recycling services um you know uh

702
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,839
throughout Canyon and and Fremont
County.

703
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:59,359
» Very good. Thank you. Okay, I've got
five up uh actually number six now. So

704
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:02,720
here we go.
>> Council members Misher.

705
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:08,079
» Thank you. Um you mentioned a couple of
times based on eligibility, is everyone

706
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:13,440
who lives in Canyon City eligible?
>> Good question. Um in theory, yes. Uh

707
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:17,920
there might be some re really remote
locations that we just don't have the

708
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:22,400
equipment yet to do it. But our plan
over time is to get it access to

709
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,800
everybody within our service footprint.
But we're starting really with the the

710
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:30,319
the city and periphery city limits and
and and we will expand as as we grow

711
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:36,079
into the program.
>> And are the things that can be recycled

712
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:41,280
the same as what you currently accept?
>> Yes, for the most part. Um, CAA does

713
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:45,200
require a a minimum recyclables list
which is on our it's on our container.

714
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,880
It's on our website site. So, definitely
encourage residents to go and see what

715
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:54,240
those things are and they may change
from time to time.

716
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:58,480
» Okay. Um, and you had mentioned a couple
of times carts, but based on the photo,

717
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:02,319
it looks like they are the normal
dumpsters that y'all currently provide

718
00:53:00,319 --> 00:53:06,240
and people can ratchet strap them shut
if they have bears. Is that So, it's

719
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:09,680
just the typical. It's not a change. No,
it's it will just have a blue lid. It

720
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,200
will have the same color body, but a
blue lid, which disting distinguishes uh

721
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,520
recycling.
>> Perfect. Correct.

722
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,800
» And then this may actually be a question
for the city administrator or city

723
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:23,200
staff. I believe we do have other
recycling companies in town. Do you know

724
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:27,280
if they are also participating or
eligible for EPR?

725
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:31,000
» That's a good question. I don't know off
the top of my head. IO

726
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:40,000
» I also don't know but I believe they
have to opt in if they want to

727
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,599
participate. So if you contact the other
haulers and providers this is a program

728
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:47,520
that the haulers has to have to kind of
choose to be a part of if they want to.

729
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:50,400
» Thank you. That's really helpful and
thanks so much for coming and sharing

730
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000
this information with us tonight. It's
really helpful.

731
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:56,640
» Yeah.
>> And yeah I can just add to to to that

732
00:53:54,240 --> 00:54:00,720
comment. Anybody can participate, but
you do have to submit agreements and

733
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,400
things like that to get the
reimbursement. So, it there's nobody

734
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,839
excluded from the program. You just have
to register for it.

735
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,400
» Understood. Thank you.
>> Yep. Council member Tony.

736
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:15,040
» Yeah. Thanks for coming uh and thanks
for being here for decades.

737
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:20,559
» Yes.
>> But, uh can you quickly go through the

738
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:26,160
recycle cycle drill? if uh we put
something in the recycle, is it

739
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:31,520
completed here or does it go to another
facility? And number two, is there

740
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:36,240
future charges to residents?
>> Yeah, great great question. So, uh the

741
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:40,400
cool thing is we have a transfer station
here where we move recyclables through

742
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:45,200
that transfer station. So, we're going
to aggregate it on the floor um maximize

743
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:48,480
it in an over over the road trailer to
go get recycle. We're not actually doing

744
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:54,160
the physical processing here. We're
doing the transfer of the processing to

745
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,839
a plastics, you know, recycler likely go
to Colorado Springs. They have big

746
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:03,680
automated MURFs, they're called material
recovery uh facilities. So, we will be

747
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:07,040
the transfer point um for here in Canyon
for that. So, we can aggregate it, you

748
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,400
know, if there's another participating
member, they can they can drop it on

749
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,440
that floor so they can participate and
we bring it and then then we move the

750
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:18,480
materials to the final processing
facility where it goes. Um, you know,

751
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,839
the program is built as a nocost program
by the producers. Um, so, you know, the

752
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:29,359
that's what we know about it and there
is no cost to that. Um, you know, could

753
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:33,680
things change down the road, we don't
control that. It would be the the the

754
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:38,240
program itself, but to my knowledge, the
the plan is no cost recycling in the

755
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:42,319
state.
>> City administrator, are you still up?

756
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:45,599
Uh, you went away. You're good. Okay.
Council member McCuller.

757
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:49,359
» Thank you, Mr. mayor and thank you for
being here and educating us and helping

758
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,920
our community understand the value of
this. Um I don't have any questions per

759
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,839
se, but I do remember growing up in a
canyon city without recycling. Well, it

760
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,359
wasn't that we didn't have recycling
facilities, but they were the ones that

761
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:05,920
you had to bring your stuff to in the
parking lot. And I think this is such a

762
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:09,839
great thing for our community. And as
folks who live in a rural area, we know

763
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:14,240
that we have to be really good stewards
of our our waste so that we can keep our

764
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,040
rural areas looking good. So, I'm really
excited to see the impact this can have

765
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:21,119
for our town.
>> Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, if there's one

766
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:24,160
area that that really helps recycling is
just that education piece, and we're

767
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:27,839
going to really try to promote that
education. You know, right now, you

768
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:33,920
know, typical recycling streams probably
have 15 to 20% that is contaminated. You

769
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:37,839
know, uh pizza boxes is the people get
confused by it. If it's wax coated, it's

770
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:42,160
not recyclable. People think cardboard,
oh, it's recyclable. So, we're going to

771
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:45,599
try to really uh push the the the
education of the program, too. But,

772
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:49,839
yeah, there might be things that we can
do collectively or collaboratively to

773
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:54,000
just get that message out there now that
this program is really going to change.

774
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,040
» Can you educate the bears?
>> I wish I could. I wish I could.

775
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:03,200
» I wish you could as well.
>> Yes. Good thing is recycling, no odor.

776
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:05,760
Um, typically not a bear issue. Um, you
know, garbage is where they go for

777
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,280
» the trash.
>> Yep.

778
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:12,240
» Pizza boxes.
>> Yep. Council member Maloney, thank you.

779
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:16,799
Is this residential only?
>> Yes, the the program is focused on

780
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:21,920
residential only. There is a component
of the program that would come in 2028

781
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:26,079
29 that would focus on commercial
recycling. Um but that is like a second

782
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:30,880
phase of the program is my
understanding. So I I think commercial

783
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,720
and commercial would be your business.
You have a trash container out there and

784
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,880
then you would have an equivalent
recycling container there in the steel

785
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,680
box. So, that eventually is part of this
program, but that is not part of this

786
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:46,720
first phase.
>> Um, I was curious because a week or two

787
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:50,559
ago, a couple of those totes showed up
in the alley behind my business and I

788
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,160
wasn't sure
>> did So, did was it possible some of the

789
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,880
other commercial people signed up for a
recycling program and those things

790
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:01,200
showed up?
>> It it shouldn't be. it was delivered and

791
00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:05,040
that not to say our data was perfect but
uh if there was a residential person

792
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:09,599
anywhere on premise it could have gotten
placed at the wrong side but we have

793
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:13,599
fielded about probably about 50 calls
saying hey you know this came here I

794
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,680
don't you know this is a a commercial
business so we're we're recovering those

795
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:21,119
as we learn about them
>> okay and really quick I could probably

796
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,760
go to the website but can I sign up for
recycling for my commercial business now

797
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,359
even if I had to pay for it? Yes,
absolutely.

798
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,040
» Okay.
>> Just it's just no cost at this point. At

799
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:34,559
some point it will be at, you know,
potentially at no cost with EPR.

800
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:37,920
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Yep.

801
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:43,040
» Council member Reeves.
>> Uh I haven't worked for Twin at one

802
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:48,319
point. I know that recycling wasn't
something that we did and um seeing the

803
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,559
amount of waste. I think that people
underestimate the amount of waste that

804
00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:57,520
we really make. And um when I was
managing the ice company, I I tried to

805
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:02,160
find places that would recycle in mass
quantities. And so it's it's a long

806
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,359
needed thing for our community is to
have this. And I know that Chris, you

807
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,760
know, has been working Chris, by the
way, is my brother. He's been working at

808
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:15,440
Twin for a lot of years. We've came a
long ways from when we started there.

809
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:20,319
Um, but he's built that recycling
facility and you guys are adding to it

810
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:23,599
and it's awesome to see for our
community.

811
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,359
» And we should do a podcast about this.
We should go out there to their facility

812
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:32,839
and show the whole thing.
>> I mean, really with you, too, by the

813
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:32,839
way. Leo.

814
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:40,720
» Okay. Um,
um, Ryan, you're back on.

815
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:45,440
» I am. I you know, we got our recycling
tote last week and I have a second

816
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,160
grader who's very excited cuz he had
just learned about uh recycling in

817
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:51,839
school.
>> Uh are you partnering with any of the

818
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:56,400
schools on probably not this
presentation, but recycling in general

819
00:59:53,760 --> 01:00:01,280
to try and push or drive some of that
recycling effort? Yeah. Yeah. I I mean,

820
00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:04,640
certainly with this program coming on
and and I think it would be a great, you

821
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,079
know, we we do it in a lot of
communities we're in and and I think

822
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,040
that's a great way to be honest with
you. The best recyclers are usually the

823
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:14,960
kids telling their parents what is and
isn't recyclable. So, you know, that

824
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,960
that is something that we definitely
should do more of now that this program

825
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:22,799
is really coming. Before it was a very
very low percentage of of people

826
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,000
participating and there was a cost to it
cuz it was it was cost to get out. Now,

827
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:30,720
you know, this program really kind of
levels the playing field there for

828
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:34,000
residents to participate. So, um, great
great advice, uh, to get more involved

829
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:39,359
with the schools. I think that'd be
great for this session.

830
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:41,920
» Okay, we thank you for coming tonight.
Thank you so much.

831
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:44,880
» Wait, excuse me.
Okay. Council member Denny,

832
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:48,400
» one one question real quick because I've
had a few people the the totes that you

833
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:53,119
dropped off
>> and collected last week. Are those

834
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:56,000
recycling ones that you dropped off or I
saw some being picked up, some being

835
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,640
dropped off?
>> Mhm.

836
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:02,400
» That's what I was just kind of just so
we can kind of maybe clear the air

837
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,880
there. the the ones that are getting
dropped off will have a blue lid, which

838
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:11,520
which and and and an instructional
packet on it on what the program is all

839
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:15,359
about, how to reach out to us.
>> Uh but yeah, the blue lids will be known

840
01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:18,319
as the recycling container. Same color
bodies are going to be black and black,

841
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:23,119
but and then the black lids are your
trash, but there's markings on the top

842
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:27,599
of the lid. Um little examples of what
is and isn't recyclable on that. Um but

843
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:31,599
yeah, they are the blue ones. So, you
are actually but even changing out the

844
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:33,680
others as well at the same time right
now.

845
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:36,960
» Yeah, I don't I don't think we're we're
really changing out the trash. We

846
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,400
shouldn't be unless Yeah, I I don't
think so, Chris. Correct.

847
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,240
» Okay, that's just good to know. All
right, thank you.

848
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,400
» Yep.
>> Thank you again for coming. Appreciate

849
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,680
it.
>> Appreciate it.

850
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,640
» Okay,
>> city administrator, there's no staff

851
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:52,319
report on this, right?
>> On what?

852
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:58,480
» On Apex? No.
>> Yeah. Okay. So number

853
01:01:56,559 --> 01:02:02,480
9B uh we're dealing with a second
reading and adoption by title only of

854
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:06,480
ordinance 12 series 2026 entitle an
ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as

855
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:10,880
municipal judge and approving the
contract for services. Uh any staff

856
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:13,680
report on this? You've had nothing else
from first reading.

857
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:17,119
» Second reading. We don't have any
additional information and staff would

858
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:22,640
recommend passing on second reading.
>> Okay. Any discussion? I'm open to a

859
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:27,040
motion. Council member Tony.
If there's no discussion, I'd like to

860
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:31,440
make the motion to uh pass on the second
reading of adoption by title only of

861
01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:35,520
ordinance 12 series 2026 entitled an
ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as

862
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,040
municipal judge and approving the
contract for services.

863
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:43,280
» Uh council member Reeves,
>> I second.

864
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:47,480
» Any discussion on the motion?
Hearing none, let's go ahead and vote.

865
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:59,040
and the clerk
>> passed by majority.

866
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:02,960
» Okay, very good. So, the next uh regular
city council meeting is going to be on

867
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,240
September the 26th. Uh we do have a
special city council meeting tomorrow

868
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:12,640
night uh dealing with the clock tower
plaza and uh we now have a uh meeting

869
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:17,200
set up for September 30th uh dealing
with uh the committee structure. And I

870
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:24,400
know that we've got more on deck as far
as uh dealing with uh the um drain issue

871
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,240
and uh the we're going to have on the
30th also your review, but we'll have

872
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:34,440
one in the future on the attorneys as
well. So that's the docket and with that

873
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,440
we are adjourned for this evening.