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[0:22] Okay, welcome everyone to uh September
8th uh city council meeting. September
[0:26] 8th on a Tuesday because yesterday was
Labor Day and so uh here we are today on
[0:31] a Tuesday and I appreciate that. I know
we've got a special city council meeting
[0:35] tomorrow night as well and uh so a lot
of things going on this week. I will
[0:40] start out with the roll call please
Denise.
[0:51] » We have a quorum. Everyone's present.
>> Okay. Very good. And with that, uh,
[0:55] Grant Atkinson, uh, thank you for being
here. And if you want to come up and
[0:59] give us the invocation, appreciate that.
We'll follow up with the pledge of
[1:02] allegiance.
[1:07] All right, let's bow together. Honor our
creator. Heavenly Father, we u it's hard
[1:12] to bow our hearts and our heads without
just thanking you. Thank you for a good
[1:16] day. Thank you for the rain and the
regularity of it, how often we've gotten
[1:20] it. Thank you for that. Thank you for
our city. I thank you for the heritage
[1:24] and the history. How excit how much joy
that is to look through those for the
[1:29] years. And I thank you for our future.
And I thank you for this council, their
[1:34] concern, their time, their efforts that
they put in for our future. And I pray
[1:39] you'd guide them blessing this meeting
and all the ones to come in Jesus name.
[1:43] Amen.
>> Thank you, sir. Pledge of allegiance. I
[1:47] aliance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the republic for it
[1:53] stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.
[2:01] » Not specifically on the agenda, but I
had uh talked before and it just didn't
[2:04] make it on there about a proclamation
and I'd like to go ahead and read that
[2:09] uh if I may. And uh this is regarding uh
the 25th anniversary of uh September
[2:14] 11th, 2001. And um I'll go ahead and
read it. So a proclamation, Patriot Day
[2:20] and National Day of Service and
Remembrance. 25th anniversary of
[2:23] September 11th, 2001. Whereas on the
morning of September 11th, 2001,
[2:28] coordinated terrorist attacks were
carried out against the United States at
[2:31] the World Trade Center in New York at
the Pentagon in Virginia and aboard
[2:35] United Flight 93, which came down in a
field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. And
[2:40] whereas 2,977
people were killed that day and many
[2:44] more have died since from illnesses
connected to attacks and the recovery of
[2:49] work uh the recovery work that followed.
And whereas 343 firefighters and more
[2:55] than 70 law enforcement officers were
among those lost having gone toward the
[3:00] danger while others were coming out. And
whereas the passengers of and crew of
[3:05] flight 93 knowing what had already
happened this morning or that morning
[3:11] attack, excuse me, acted to prevent the
aircraft from reaching its target and
[3:15] gave their lives in doing it. And
whereas in the days that followed,
[3:18] Americans of every description stood
with one another, and this country was
[3:22] reminded what it is capable of when it
decided to be. And whereas 25 years have
[3:27] now passed, and a generation of
Americans has come of age with no memory
[3:32] of that morning, which makes the telling
of it a duty rather than a habit. And
[3:36] whereas the firefighters, police
officers, dispatchers, and emergency
[3:40] medical personnel who serve Canyon City
do the same work in our own community
[3:44] and are owed the same regard. And
whereas the public law uh 107-89,
[3:51] the Congress of the United States
designated September 11th as Patriot Day
[3:55] to be observed with the flag of the
United States displayed at half staff
[3:59] and with a moment of silence. Now
therefore, I Philon, mayor of city of
[4:03] Canyon City, Colorado, do hereby
proclaim Friday, September 11th, 2026 as
[4:08] Patriot Day and National Day of Service
and Remembrance in the City of Canyon
[4:12] City. And I call upon all citizens to
display the flag of the United States at
[4:16] half staff to observe a moment of
silence and to honor those who were lost
[4:22] and those who serve us still. We do not
forget them.
[4:27] Thank you. the proclamation.
Okay. Uh
[4:33] we are next going to deal with those who
are uh interested in speaking to the
[4:37] council. And right now I only have one
name and that's Jessica Hughes. And
[4:41] Jessica, you're welcome to come on
forward and present to the council.
[4:46] Thank you for coming.
[4:50] » Hello.
I'm just going to read you uh an
[4:54] introduction to it and then I'll pass
this off to you guys to go through it
[4:57] later on. Um I've been looking into the
possibility of bringing a Thomas Dambo
[5:01] troll into Canyon and if you don't know
who that is, he he builds giant troll
[5:06] troll sculptures out of recycled. Um we
have one in Breenidge and one in Victor.
[5:12] Uh I reached out to his team and
received some feedback about what we
[5:16] needed to do to apply for a future
project. And one of the requirements to
[5:19] have a troll, um, it must have an
official host organization and it can't
[5:24] be sponsored by an individual. Um, which
is why I'm bringing it to you guys. Uh,
[5:29] I've included the information they've
provided along with the correspondence
[5:32] of a semi semi pre-filled application
uh, in this pre presentation if anyone
[5:38] like to review it. The project cost for
the troll project according to Dambo's
[5:42] team is currently between approximately
350,000 and $580,000
[5:47] depending on the scope of installation.
And I know that sounds like a
[5:50] significant investment. Uh so I just
wanted to share that I spoke with the
[5:54] Royal Gorge Bridge and they already have
plans in their new contract for a troll
[5:58] and some additional figures that would
be placed inside the park. um they have
[6:02] the materials and in 2029 it will be
their 100th anniversary of the gorge and
[6:08] that's an achievable achievable time
frame to have the troll completed for a
[6:12] celebration. Um I've looked at several
possible locations and the one that
[6:16] stood out the most right now is right
outside the gorge. Uh they'll be fixing
[6:20] the trolley train as well and my idea is
to put the troll in the center of it
[6:24] with a crossing and trail to it. Um,
people could walk or ride around it and
[6:29] I think it's best put there because the
gorge has available in excess parking,
[6:32] it would remain free for the public to
visit and would still be accessible to
[6:36] view for those with mobility
limitations. Um, I do believe Canyon
[6:40] would be a strong candidate for this
consideration. And while currently
[6:44] Colorado has two Thomas Dambo trolls,
Denmark alone has over 50 of them,
[6:48] showing that these projects are beloved
attractions and are not shy from being
[6:52] close to one another. And I am simply
asking that we explore this opportunity.
[6:56] Uh submit a form to Dambo's team for
consideration. A project like this one
[7:00] could create a new landmark for Canyon,
encourage tourism, support local
[7:03] business, and give families and visitors
another reason to visit.
[7:07] And I have some pictures and I'm not
going to read the whole thing. Um I'll
[7:12] let you guys read it, but I kind of took
their
[7:16] form and kind of filled it out. there's
specific things that uh they were
[7:21] looking for for us to put in there. Um
and Miss Olive, the one that I've been
[7:26] talking to, uh she's she's looking
forward to seeing an application from us
[7:31] if we can find a host.
>> Okay, very good. Thank you. Uh just a
[7:35] couple questions. Um one, when is the
deadline that you need to uh submit
[7:38] that?
>> Whenever. It it doesn't have a deadline.
[7:41] » Okay. There's no deadline. Yeah. And um
would you be willing to come before the
[7:45] economic development committee and
present this more and we can figure out
[7:48] where the city wants to go with it
because you talked about tourism and a
[7:51] lot of other issues that uh would
certainly be good for the economics of
[7:54] our city uh to pursue something like
this.
[7:57] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh unless somebody else has
[8:00] another uh offer as far as where she
might go, but I'd like to see it go to
[8:03] economic development at least.
>> I think it I'm more than happy to have
[8:06] it go there. I think it also falls under
quality of life for the people who live
[8:09] here, but I'm very happy to have it go
to economic development.
[8:13] I agree with you. It uh serves both of
those purposes. Uh we'll start out with
[8:17] economic development and uh you'll
probably end up before quality of life
[8:20] as well.
>> Okay,
[8:22] » Jessica, you got vision. Thank you.
>> Oh, thank you. Do Do you want a copy or
[8:25] do you want me to just wait until
>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh if you can get them
[8:27] over to the clerk and uh we'll take care
of them from there.
[8:30] » Okay.
[8:34] » Okay. She'll take care of them.
>> Okay. That's the only person that I've
[8:40] got for um dealing with uh those who
wish to speak before the council. I'm
[8:45] going to turn to the council members and
board updates. And uh why don't we start
[8:48] off with council member Schmisser as far
as your committee.
[8:52] » Sure. Happy to. Um so just a couple of
updates based on our meeting last week.
[8:58] Um, we do have a special city council
meeting tomorrow at 6 PM or whenever the
[9:05] urban renewal authority meeting ends to
deal specifically with Clock Tower
[9:09] Plaza. Just plugging that again. Um, one
of our big first initiatives in the
[9:15] public safety quality of life committee
has been the Mon Plaza natural play
[9:19] structure. Um, and Manny the mammoth on
Mon um is being ordered and the
[9:24] estimated arrival is in the next 12 to
14 weeks. So, we're hopeful that by the
[9:28] end of the year, we'll have the the new
place structure beginning to to take
[9:34] shape um there in Mon Plaza. For folks
who are interested in the library
[9:38] foundation's campaign around that and
supporting our library more generally on
[9:44] September 11th, which is this Friday, um
at 4 p.m. there they will have a
[9:50] fundraiser and music on Mon and kind of
getting folks excited about this new um
[9:56] natural place structure in Mon Plaza. Uh
there will be a moment of silence for
[10:01] the 25th anniversary of September 11th,
followed by uh local band and just a a
[10:06] good free time to be had by all. So
encourage folks to come down to Mon
[10:10] Plaza Friday between 4 to 7:00 p.m. Um
we also took a field trip over to the
[10:17] new restrooms at at Florence's Pioneer
Park um to take a look at what they have
[10:22] done well there and what we may want to
recommend for future public restrooms
[10:26] here in Canyon City. Um and we the
committee most significantly probably
[10:32] voted um to send a draft um ebike and
emoto ordinance um to city council upon
[10:42] incorporation of edits from the
committee and review by our attorneys.
[10:47] So those edits that um committee members
have sent over have been incorporated.
[10:51] It's going back to city staff for one
more deep dive look um as well as over
[10:56] to our attorneys for their input and
feedback. We've had a preliminary
[11:01] conversation with the school district um
superintendent about partnering on uh
[11:07] public engagement and a public education
campaign around um what is legal uh here
[11:13] in the state of Colorado and um they are
looking forward to partnering with us on
[11:18] that. So, more to come on next steps.
Um, and then lastly, we have um our next
[11:28] public safety quality of life committee
meeting is scheduled for October 7th at
[11:33] 400 PM here at city hall. Thanks.
>> You're welcome. And thank you. And uh
[11:38] let's just talk about the the e
motorcycles just for a second, a little
[11:41] longer if we can as far as coming out of
there. So, uh, the police chief was
[11:45] there and, uh, there are things that are
illegal already under the laws of the
[11:50] state of Colorado and, uh, we're looking
at some things, uh, specifically for,
[11:55] uh, Canyon City. Correct.
>> Yes. So, currently in Canyon City, there
[11:59] are some things that are illegal, like
riding class one and class 2 ebikes on
[12:04] the Riverwalk. Um, so, one of the things
that this ordinance would do is take
[12:09] away that restriction. a lot of people
are already riding ebikes and we want to
[12:13] make sure that we don't have regulations
on the books that aren't being enforced.
[12:17] The other um aspect of this ordinance is
it's looking at how do you ensure that
[12:23] once education is appropriately done
around what the state of Colorado allows
[12:27] and doesn't allow that the police have
the appropriate enforcement tools um to
[12:32] actually hold people accountable for
those state laws um to ensure the public
[12:37] safety for the the kids in our community
as well as pedestrians and um business
[12:42] owners that are facing a lot of
challenges due to uh various types of e
[12:47] motos that are being written around
town. So it does um it would give our
[12:52] law enforcement additional tools um
things like making it uh eluding
[12:58] behavior, reckless driving, careless
driving, and also parental
[13:02] responsibility for minors who are
repeatedly found um using vehicles that
[13:08] they are not lawfully allowed to to
operate.
[13:11] » Okay. So, if you're watching this at
home or wherever, um this is something
[13:15] the council is taking up. Uh it's an
important issue to a lot of people and
[13:19] uh I've certainly seen the wheelies down
Main Street as well myself and uh so
[13:23] we're going to take that on. One other
point that they might consider, Amy, is
[13:28] the fact that uh we're also looking at
property uh that they might do this
[13:32] legally. If you want to expand on that.
>> Sure. Absolutely. So, city staff have
[13:37] looked at a couple of different
properties around town um that would
[13:41] that the city already owns and frankly
where where some of this behavior is
[13:45] already taking place um to ensure that
folks do have a place where they can
[13:50] recreate um with equipment that they own
in a way that is safer and that is
[13:54] legal. One of the one of the pieces of
the public education that we're looking
[13:58] forward to moving forward with is really
engaging with some of the users of these
[14:03] vehicles so that we better understand
would that meet their needs? Would it be
[14:07] used? Um and if not, what what is the
gap? How do we ensure that folks have
[14:13] their needs met? Um and while also being
safe and not causing quality of life and
[14:18] safety concerns for others.
>> Yep. And I'm excited about that that
[14:21] we're not only looking at putting
additional rules in that changes that
[14:26] behavior uh from a safety mechanism
because we certainly don't want anyone
[14:29] hurt and certainly this the kids that
are using this, but uh I'm excited that
[14:33] we're also looking at property that uh
can uh be used in a safe way and uh I
[14:38] know we've got citizens who are out
there looking at that and appreciate
[14:42] them doing so.
>> Absolutely. Okay. I think just so folks
[14:45] know, the the property that the city
staff um are looking at first is that uh
[14:51] that which is directly to the east of
Canyon Exploratory School. Um it already
[14:56] has a natural ravine and already has
features that a lot of folks enjoy um
[15:00] recreating on with these types of
vehicles. One of the biggest challenges
[15:03] and a hurdle that will would have to be
overcome is how do you uh lawfully and
[15:08] safely get the vehicles up to that
space, right? So again, looking forward
[15:12] to the public education and public
engagement to make sure that we
[15:15] understand um why those uh how how that
space can best be used and where that
[15:21] space needs to be located to ensure that
it meets those needs.
[15:23] » Okay. Thank you for taking extra time.
Uh Council Member Tony, finance
[15:27] committee, finance, budget, and
>> yeah, thank you. So our next meeting
[15:31] will be September
uh 10th uh this Thursday, 3:45. Uh it'll
[15:38] be really all about the budget. uh if
there's in any uh uh underspent budget
[15:44] this year, is there some critical
infrastructure that could be used for?
[15:48] We'll be investigating that along with
an update uh on the 2027 budget. Uh
[15:55] we'll also be uh exploring the
possibility of uh retention and uh wages
[16:03] for our police department. So, invite
everybody to come to that. Um and that
[16:09] that's about it for this this week.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um next one, economic
[16:14] development committee met at 4:00 today
and uh just a very quick update on that.
[16:18] Uh we looked at a policy issue that uh
the council may consider uh dealing with
[16:23] sign ordinance that have been passed in
the in the past and uh I won't get into
[16:27] too much detail on that. Just know that
it's being looked at. I do want to
[16:31] remind everyone that uh we have a
consultant that uh is looking at uh the
[16:36] functions of city government and uh I
think all of us are behind that. I'm
[16:40] looking forward to that report coming
out and um they've already met with a
[16:44] number of individuals when the
consultant was in town including all the
[16:48] members of the the council and a lot of
business people and I think that uh
[16:52] there's a survey that's been completed
uh city administrator can add whatever
[16:56] he wants to but the survey has been
completed as far as the draft of how
[17:00] it's going to be and I think that's
going out uh shortly and as a result uh
[17:05] we should have that report back in a
couple months and uh sooner the better
[17:09] but That's what we're looking at. And C
or um city administrator, you're welcome
[17:13] to give any update on that you'd like,
but uh that's an important economic
[17:17] development issue.
>> Yeah, we received the link for the uh
[17:20] final survey today, so we'll be putting
that out probably tomorrow.
[17:25] » Okay, very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh any
other council members want to address
[17:30] any other topics?
[17:35] » Council member Reeves?
>> Yeah, I want to address the committees.
[17:37] We never uh talked about that again. I
would want to get that on the agenda for
[17:41] future to review the committees and the
structure of those potentially change
[17:46] it.
Do we need what what kind of
[17:49] conversation do we need to have about
dates and stuff like that?
[17:53] » So, uh the city administrator and I have
discussed uh that and uh there was uh a
[17:59] thought that uh
>> recording in progress.
[18:02] » Great. So, everyone gets that. I don't
know if you heard that at home, but it
[18:06] just said we're recording. So all good.
Um we are talking about having some kind
[18:11] of uh retreatish kind of thing after the
election and uh so we were thinking of
[18:17] putting it on that time frame of
November uh at this point. One of the
[18:22] things that came out of it with uh when
Amy was discussing this is having some
[18:26] kind of committee of the whole as well
as the committees, but that is all
[18:30] subject to uh discussion. But uh having
that on a a November time frame because
[18:35] there are committees that are active
with budgets and everything else and
[18:39] that gets us uh it's only two months
away and uh we could take it up at that
[18:43] time. Council member Reeves,
>> aren't we going to just do the same
[18:47] thing in a couple months and be like,
well, we have other stuff we have to do
[18:50] then and people are committed to it. I
mean, I've been paying attention to the
[18:54] other committees. I'm sure other members
have, too. We can consolidate this back
[18:58] into uh us dealing with a lot of these
issues. Um, I'm finding that there's I'm
[19:04] having to do too much homework. I I most
of what I'm finding out isn't even from
[19:08] the committee that I'm actually in. And
uh spending hours doing not what this
[19:14] this committee structure promised to do.
And I I clipped together some video if
[19:19] we need to pull it up of us talking
about this at 6 months and reviewing
[19:23] this. And so I'd like to do it a lot
sooner than November.
[19:27] » Okay. Right now, we're having a
conversation about the timing as opposed
[19:30] to uh exactly what uh we're dealing with
and your opinions are granted, but uh I
[19:36] think we need to talk about timing and
when that can happen. And uh I'm not
[19:40] certain that uh with all the things
we've got going, I've got a couple other
[19:43] issues that I want to bring up as well.
Uh in fact, I'm going to bring them up
[19:46] right now. Um the uh based on that that
I think there's uh an equal priority
[19:51] with that and I do see Sarah that you're
online and we'll discuss that. Um, but
[19:56] we need to do an annual review on the
city administrator and that's going to
[19:59] take some time. That goes into executive
session of course and that is nothing to
[20:04] do with uh anything other than that is
standard practice. I also believe that
[20:08] we should do a review of uh the
attorneys. Uh that's something that uh
[20:13] would be practiced as well. And so those
are two things on the agenda. We've got
[20:17] drain or um uh ditch issues that we have
to deal with. There's just a lot before
[20:22] the council and it's a matter of when we
can fit that all in. But I do believe
[20:25] that uh uh typically in August or
September uh the city administrator is
[20:30] up for review. Uh and that's good for
him and it's good for us. And so I want
[20:34] to get that on the agenda and again uh
the attorneys as well. So just uh we do
[20:39] have a lot going on. That's why we are
focused on November and uh specifically
[20:43] at a a meeting that would be a little
longer. Council member Eaves, you're
[20:48] still up for speaking. Do you want to do
that? Council member McCuller.
[20:51] » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I also agree
that we need to talk about the
[20:55] committees in a timely manner. Um I
believe that it is important to how this
[21:02] body functions for us to have a good
grasp on what the other committees are
[21:06] doing and be able to have conversations
amongst ourselves as well. So I'm not
[21:11] going to commit myself to a time frame,
but I do agree with council member
[21:15] Reeves that we need to make sure that
this does not get lost in the shuffle.
[21:20] right now it's not going to get lost uh
at this point. Um we are looking at
[21:24] November. If uh somebody wants to push
forward uh before that, just know that
[21:29] uh there's a lot on our plate and I
think we need to accomplish a few
[21:32] things. And so when the city
administrator and I were talking, that's
[21:36] the time frame we were looking at.
Uh again, I've got you still on there,
[21:41] Sarah. We um we're not taking them off
correctly with Okay. Now, Council Member
[21:46] Schmer and then Council Member Denny.
>> Thanks. Could I ask for a bit more
[21:50] clarity on the retreat agenda and focus?
I agree with you that [snorts] it uh
[21:56] it's a conversation that we've had a
couple of times. So, it's one that bears
[21:59] perhaps a lengthier discussion so that
we can come to resolution and a way
[22:03] forward. So, I'd like to better
understand what the intended structure
[22:07] of the retreat would be. um who would be
coming, how long we would be discussing
[22:13] this, what other items would be on the
agenda so that I can understand if it is
[22:18] likely to produce um a way forward on
the committees out of that retreat.
[22:23] Thanks.
>> Yep. I'm happy to discuss what I know
[22:26] and what I don't know which is right now
it's preliminary discussion. We have
[22:29] simply talked about timing. city
minister can add anything he wants to at
[22:33] this point but uh we he is uh aware of
consultants specifically have dealt with
[22:38] uh cities and uh he is uh going to be uh
bringing those forward um so those are
[22:45] the issues from a timing standpoint um
we have an election year coming up uh
[22:49] five of us are up for election or at
least five positions the mayor and four
[22:54] council members and we wanted to get
this in prior to uh the burdens of an
[22:58] election and all those kind of things um
because of just what's coming down the
[23:02] pike. And so November after an election
uh made sense at least to me and I think
[23:07] uh I won't speak for the city
administrator but uh from a timing
[23:10] standpoint we're past uh we'll know
about the pool and we'll know about a
[23:14] lot of other stuff and that seemed like
a good timing as far as uh content
[23:19] haven't got into it much other than it
would be a good thing for the council to
[23:22] spend some time with one another.
>> Thank you. Um I just because I saw some
[23:27] some looks of confusion. And I believe
the mayor was referring to the 2027
[23:30] election is when city council seats
would be up as opposed to to this.
[23:35] » Correct.
>> Um so I want us to have enough time to
[23:39] discuss this. I'm a bit concerned just
because the first retreat um I I didn't
[23:43] receive the notes or the action items or
the doouts from it. So I'm I'm a little
[23:47] bit concerned that if that based on how
the first one went that we may not um
[23:51] come to a conclusion on this topic that
has been hanging out there for for quite
[23:56] a while now. um unless it really is the
focus of say half of the day. Um so I
[24:02] wouldn't be opposed to having a a
meeting of the whole specifically on
[24:06] this and no other agenda items to to
just make sure that we do um move
[24:11] forward on it.
>> Yeah. Uh there is um staff um I think
[24:16] position as far as the the particular uh
committees as well and uh I've I've seen
[24:23] that I think the attorneys might have
drafted something. I believe that um if
[24:29] you guys want to talk about it next
week, we can have a special city council
[24:32] meeting, but uh you know my position,
which is I'm in favor of citizens being
[24:35] involved just as much as possible. And
uh that's um I think in November and
[24:42] letting them run out their course is a
good thing. But if uh the council wants
[24:45] to meet next week or the following week
or in October, uh we can do that.
[24:50] You're still on. Um Denise, I think you
need to pull people off when they get
[24:54] done. I'm not certain how that works,
but uh it just keeps people on. Council
[24:58] member Deni.
>> Yeah, I just I think we need to meet
[25:02] within the next week or two and just
have a discussion on this. I think
[25:05] you're hearing from four council members
right now and I don't know if anybody
[25:09] else has views on this, but I think it'd
be good just for us to have a discussion
[25:12] in within the next week or two. I think
that'd be very good for all of us. Thank
[25:16] you.
Uh is there anybody that uh has any
[25:21] other thoughts on that?
Council member Tony.
[25:25] » Yeah, I think uh we we need to put some
thought in this for sure, but there's a
[25:32] lot going on. You have the budget u
among many other things and to do it
[25:38] next week. I don't think that's a
timely. It's a knee-jerk reaction. I
[25:43] think let's plan it, do it right, and uh
you know, that way we can set our goals
[25:49] for the for the upcoming year and all
that at one time. Council
[25:55] member McCuller.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, Council Member
[26:00] Tony, I hear what you're saying. Uh, I
don't agree with the part about it being
[26:04] a knee-jerk situation because I don't
think that Council Member Tony or
[26:08] Council Member Reeves, and correct me if
I'm wrong, I don't think he's trying to
[26:12] start a discussion about shaking things
up and doing everything different. I
[26:17] think we're just having a conceptual
discussion about how we want the
[26:20] committees to look. So like the
committees would continue their work
[26:23] ostensibly, but we need to have a
conversation about how we want the
[26:26] committees to look going forward. And I
don't know if next week is appropriate,
[26:30] but I don't see why the week after
couldn't be. So
[26:34] » Council Member Worthington,
>> um, speaking of the budget meeting this
[26:39] Thursday, that's an example of where
that is set up for a committee. However,
[26:45] to me, every one of us here, this is
something I'm going to try and have to
[26:49] come to because in the past, we have all
been involved in the speaking and
[26:54] talking about the budget. And yet, as
far as right now, unless we're a member
[27:00] of the committee or can find time again
to out of our other lives, we are not
[27:06] going to be as involved or as informed
as we should be regarding the proposed
[27:11] budget plus what's going on with this
year's budget.
[27:19] » Uh, Council Member Reeves,
>> I would say to a lot of these uh these
[27:23] issues are so important comments. if
they're so important, then I think
[27:27] council needs to address them. And I
think that that's been the issue that I
[27:32] have this whole time is that council's
kind of been separated and not really
[27:36] dealing with the issues. We're we're
finding out these things like way later
[27:42] or or you know, we're seeing a as far as
I'm concerned, I'm seeing the committee
[27:46] slow dragging stuff. Your committee slow
drugged the pool for six months. Could
[27:50] have pushed a lot stuff a lot quicker.
your committees, the economic committee,
[27:54] we've what a 300 foot or 300 foot zoning
thing and we're chasing some plan you
[28:02] have that you haven't been able to
illustrate exactly what the problem is
[28:04] yet and I've asked you a bunch of times.
You couldn't even illustrate the issue
[28:08] in the committee and I asked it and then
I asked it again on council when I
[28:12] brought it up. You still have not been
able to illustrate the exact issue but
[28:16] you love to bring up anecdotes all the
time. So that's I think and this is
[28:20] exactly kind of my point. You're
separating us on purpose. So I'll just
[28:24] call it out. You're separating us on
purpose. I'm not going to be afraid to
[28:28] call out your BS anymore. I want to
review this quicker because you're doing
[28:32] this on purpose.
>> Council member Reeves, I'm not even
[28:35] going to acknowledge what you're
stating.
[28:37] » I don't care if you do.
>> I I do not even understand what you're
[28:40] giving
>> all kinds of crap online. I'll say
[28:42] whatever I want.
>> Okay, sir. You're almost out of order,
[28:45] so I'm going to call you on it. Phil,
>> I will say whatever I want. Phil, you're
[28:49] not my boss. This is freedom of speech.
I was elected. You were not.
[28:57] » Okay. Uh, Council Member Tony.
>> Yeah. Um, I'm pretty sure we we post
[29:04] these and any council member that wants
to attend one of these meetings are
[29:08] welcome to. Is that not correct?
>> That is correct. Okay.
[29:12] » So, you can always attend the economic
committee meeting, the quality of life,
[29:17] the budget.
>> Weren't you the guy talking about
[29:19] wasting all kinds of hours doing all
this and now you want to talk about me
[29:22] wasting all kinds of hours. You were the
guy talking about we were going to waste
[29:26] all kinds of hours. You were also the
guy I'm going to bring up. Council
[29:28] member Reeves, you were out of line.
>> I just talk loud. I'm not out of line.
[29:30] She
>> You were not advised. You were not
[29:33] advised that Council Member Tony had the
phone.
[29:35] » I'm still up. I'm number one. He's
number That's only
[29:38] » I'm number one. He's number two.
I brought this up. I bring these issues
[29:44] up because you're not willing to listen
to us. That's the problem here. You're
[29:48] you're trying to sidestep this. You
brought you yourself cut down one of the
[29:52] committees yourself. You muted it and
then shut off video. And hold on. And
[29:56] then you And then Ben Googans called you
out on it. Called you out on No, no, no.
[30:01] Stop. And then called you out on showing
up here.
[30:03] » Can you call him out of order? I
>> was No, you're trying to cut me off. Ben
[30:07] Gugggins called you out for showing up
here with information that your
[30:11] committee did not produce.
>> That's what you got called out publicly
[30:14] for and then publicly you shut off the
video. You shut off the the mic because
[30:20] you don't know how to handle people.
Council member Reeves neither one of you
[30:23] do pushing back and neither one of you
like it.
[30:26] » Council member Reeves, uh, you are out
of line right now. You are you are
[30:30] attacking push back.
>> You are attacking individual members and
[30:33] it needs to
>> I'm calling out the mistakes you've made
[30:35] in your committees. Council member Tony,
you have the floor.
[30:37] » You silence the citizens you want to
listen to.
[30:40] » So, we had we had multiple meetings. We
let the citizens speak for over 60% of
[30:46] the time. Our last meeting, you're
talking about the ballot meeting. We had
[30:51] to get some work done.
So, the team worked. We ran out of time
[30:57] and we finished.
>> That's supposed to be on video. Let me
[31:00] finish.
>> You're the one calling out video.
[31:02] » Can for the rec district.
>> Can you council member him or something?
[31:05] You need to please let council member
Tony finish his statements.
[31:09] » Go ahead, council member Tony.
>> So, the same people were there at each
[31:13] meeting. We had our working meeting
session that day and that's what we did.
[31:21] » And you shut off the video and the mic
and continued on without other people.
[31:26] And then you No, no. And then you
publicly called out the recck district.
[31:30] You called out the recck district for
not putting their stuff out. And you
[31:34] silenced people.
>> Okay.
[31:38] » Okay. Council member Tony, you still
have the floor. Are you completed?
[31:42] » I'm I'm not answering.
>> Okay. Council member Denah
[31:48] just so we can kind of go on. I think it
would be a good idea like I said a
[31:52] minute ago to to to just have a
discussion with this and with council
[31:57] because you know somebody mentioned here
that you know you could go to all the
[32:02] meetings. you know, that's a that's a
time thing for all of us and uh
[32:08] and you I'm not going to I have heard
from some people on on one [snorts]
[32:13] other committee and I just think it's
time that we have a discussion about
[32:17] this and I think it should be done
within the next week or two.
[32:21] » There is no objection to that. I think
we've talked about uh that being the
[32:24] case. So, um let's uh figure out a time
that would be there. Uh I would like to
[32:30] get on the docket though. uh time for
the city administrator review and a time
[32:34] for the attorney review that needs to
happen sometime in September, early
[32:38] October. I've already had um this is not
a surprise to Ryan whatsoever. Uh he and
[32:42] I have discussed that and making sure
that uh this uh the council has goals
[32:48] for him, etc. So, let's talk about uh
that one first because I think it's a it
[32:53] needs to happen. So, I don't know what
we want to do for uh finding that time.
[32:57] Um I know you're going to be gone in
late September. Uh do you want to go for
[33:01] the 1 of October? Will that uh meet
where you want to be?
[33:05] » Yeah. So the way it has worked in the
past is uh city council will have an
[33:10] executive session without me
>> and uh discuss and then um two weeks
[33:16] later a city council meeting there'd be
an executive session with me to go over
[33:20] those discussions.
>> That's very helpful. So we can go ahead
[33:22] and have something in late September
when you're out of town and uh or at
[33:26] least not at work and uh go from there.
So, um, we'll go ahead and work with the
[33:31] clerk and I'll get some times out when
we can, uh, do that. And again, I think
[33:36] a separate one would be, uh, Deacon
reviewing the attorneys and, uh, how
[33:40] that is working for us as well. Uh, with
that, we'll plan on the 23rd or after.
[33:45] And, uh, Council Member Schmider, uh,
I'm looking for the next thing I'm
[33:50] trying to get to is a time for us to
make a discussion about the committee
[33:54] structure.
>> Thank you. I just wanted I was on the
[33:57] contracts committee previously so I just
uh had pressed the button to provide the
[34:01] input that Ryan had provided about how
the structure was done in the past. The
[34:05] last time that we [clears throat]
reviewed the city attorneys, um I think
[34:08] a very key piece of that was sending out
a survey to the department heads because
[34:13] the city staff department heads
obviously interact quite frequently with
[34:17] the attorneys as well and having their
input um about how the attorneys are and
[34:23] um could be serving their departments
even better. Um I I thought was a very
[34:27] valuable part of that process. So, just
wanted to put that out there because I
[34:30] believe you and Council Member Denahhee
are the new contracts committee um uh
[34:35] appointees.
>> Yep. Sounds good. And uh again, I'm
[34:38] trying to uh set up the agenda as the
mayor at least from a docket standpoint
[34:42] of this is the timing that uh we would
deal with these things. Again, we've
[34:46] made a commitment uh to uh the um drain
people that we would have uh something
[34:52] done in September and I want to keep
that commitment with them as well. Okay.
[34:56] Um, we'll get uh uh the poll out as far
as timing. When do you want to meet uh
[35:02] council members as far as the committee
structure? Let's get a time on the the
[35:06] dates and done.
[35:12] Council member McCuller.
>> Uh to clarify, you're asking us to
[35:15] suggest dates right now to figure out
>> I am. I I think that one you guys are
[35:19] viewing this as a top priority, so let's
get a date.
[35:21] » I do have a suggestion. Um I was
thinking maybe Wednesday the 23rd. or do
[35:26] we want to go into October?
>> I want to make sure we get these other
[35:30] things done at least with the uh
administrator. Um if uh we're looking at
[35:35] the next council meeting is the 21st. Um
we're looking at the city administrator
[35:40] likely review uh sometime between the
23rd and the 30th.
[35:44] » Okay.
>> So
[35:45] » so it it would really need to be the
maybe the first week of October.
[35:51] » Yeah. The committee uh structure is
going to be an open session. The other
[35:54] one is not. If we want to do a special
city council meeting on maybe the 23rd
[35:58] or 24th, uh we'll start out with an
executive session at 5:00 and we can go
[36:03] into a special city council meeting uh
dealing with the committee structure. If
[36:07] you want to do that, I suggest that uh
we do so on the 23rd or the 29th.
[36:13] » I am open to the 23rd for that
suggestion.
[36:18] » I have a conflict at five, but I could
make six on the 23rd. Six on the 23rd.
[36:23] I'd like to see us do the executive
session and the uh other one to pile
[36:26] those on together if we could do that.
Um what about the 29th?
[36:33] » What's that?
>> Yeah. Or the 30th.
[36:39] » The 30th would work better for me.
>> Is there any opposition to the 30th?
[36:43] Executive session at 5:00 dealing with
city administrative review. And at 30 on
[36:48] the 30th at 6, we'll have a special city
council meeting focused on the uh
[36:52] committee structure.
>> Sounds like a plan.
[36:56] » Anybody again posted
>> on the 23rd? The 30th is great.
[37:02] » Okay. We're going to go ahead and set
that up. That's exactly what we'll do.
[37:06] And again, uh the time on the 30th at 6
o'clock will be public. uh the time with
[37:11] the executive session assuming that's
where we're going to go but uh we are
[37:14] going to do it because it's a personnel
issue uh is going to be on the 23rd.
[37:18] Okay. Very good. Uh any other comments
uh on the agenda from council members?
[37:26] City administrator uh if you could go
through uh the agenda.
[37:31] » Yes sir.
>> Agenda.
[37:32] » Thank you. Uh item 7A is to approve the
minutes for the regular city council
[37:36] meeting on August 17th. the special
meetings on August 17th and August 24th.
[37:42] Uh we did have a correction in the
regular city council meeting minutes and
[37:46] those have been updated. Uh we had a
marked mayor prom absent for one of the
[37:54] votes and she had actually voted nay. So
that has been corrected. 7B declare
[37:59] surplus equipment and authorized
disposal per the city purchasing policy.
[38:04] 7C is award bid one uh 114-26
anthraite coal purchase to anthro filter
[38:12] in an amount not to exceed $17,955.
7D is to receive and ratify cash
[38:18] dispersements. 7E is to receive and file
cash dispersements.
[38:23] Okay. Is there any questions for uh the
city administrator regarding uh the
[38:27] consent agenda?
Okay. Okay, I'll look for a motion to
[38:31] approve uh the agenda and the consent
agenda with the changes uh on that one
[38:35] set of minutes.
Council member Maloney.
[38:40] » Thank you. I move to approve the agenda
and consent agenda with the
[38:44] aformentioned corrections.
>> Council member Deni
[38:47] » second.
>> Any discussion on the motion?
[38:50] Let's go ahead and vote
[38:59] and the clerk will read that one.
>> Passed by majority vote of members
[39:03] present.
>> Okay. Very good. Thank you very much.
[39:05] Administrator's report, please.
>> Yeah. So, you have the written report uh
[39:10] in the packet. Uh does mention the
ballot language. Uh we received the
[39:15] proof today. We had a couple corrections
that's gone back to the county. So, uh,
[39:19] we're expecting the second proof
tomorrow. Uh, we've had some meetings
[39:23] with four mile ranch and four mile the
representatives of four mile ranch would
[39:28] like to come and present to city council
at some point. So, uh, we will have to
[39:32] find a date for that so we can send out
a doodle poll for that um because we
[39:37] also need to coordinate with their
schedules as well. So, we'll try and f
[39:40] find some dates that will uh work for
everybody. Uh, we already discussed the
[39:45] city gate survey. Uh those will be go
that will be going out tomorrow. I think
[39:49] we're going to have it open or they're
planning on having it open for two to
[39:52] three weeks.
Um and then title 19, so the storm water
[39:57] um and ditch issue. Uh we have some
emails going back and forth between the
[40:04] uh city staff and attorneys um buttoning
up some red lines. Uh we will need to
[40:10] set that for a meeting as well because I
believe we told the uh ditch companies
[40:15] that we would have that as a as a
meeting.
[40:18] » We did indeed.
>> Is that the report?
[40:20] » That is the report. So we we yeah I
think from me title 19 setting a date
[40:25] for that discussion.
>> Okay. I'll get that on I do uh just want
[40:28] to bring a question uh before you and
you've already prepped you that uh
[40:32] that's the case. So data centers uh the
county just took uh and did a moratorum
[40:36] on data centers. Can you give us uh any
update that you're aware of as far as
[40:41] data centers and uh here in Canyon City?
>> Yeah, we we have not received any
[40:45] applications or interest that I'm aware
of for data centers here. Um the the big
[40:50] data centers that are all in the news
right now that are very controversial,
[40:54] uh we don't have the infrastructure to
serve a data center of those that size.
[40:58] Um as a matter of fact, talking to Black
Hills Energy, uh it'd be very hard for
[41:04] PBLO to serve a data center of that
size.
[41:07] » Okay. So, you don't anticipate that any
action is needed. It's just simply our
[41:10] infrastructure is not going to get there
and uh we've got nothing uh out there
[41:15] whatsoever. So, any rumors that are out
there that we're dealing with data
[41:18] centers, that's not the case.
>> That's correct.
[41:20] » Okay. Very good. Uh council members,
>> thank you. I have a couple of follow-up
[41:25] questions. When you say the uh county
clerk sent back corrections to the
[41:30] ballot language, um are there actual
verbiage changes?
[41:34] » No. No, these are typographical
uh what's actually going on the ballot.
[41:39] So, we found some typos, some duplicate
language, things like that that we sent
[41:43] back to them. Um so, they they'll be
sending the corrected proof back to us.
[41:47] This is the actual proof that will be on
the ballot.
[41:51] » Okay. Thank you. Um with regard to the
four mile presentation, obviously defer
[41:56] to them as to whether or not it would be
feasible, but I would love to have that
[42:00] presentation up there um to kind of have
a guided tour from them. Um I I think it
[42:05] would be really helpful to understand
from a a spatial context as to what
[42:09] they're planning. Okay.
>> For where um but defer to them if they
[42:13] had a different vision in mind.
>> Does coun the rest of council okay with
[42:17] that.
>> Yeah.
[42:21] » Yeah. We'll see what we can arrange.
>> Thank you. And then the Oh, sorry. I had
[42:25] one. Sorry. Sorry, Deputy Clerk Warren.
I had one more. Um, with regard to this
[42:31] survey and having it open for the next
two to three weeks, are they uh limiting
[42:35] it so that uh one ISP address can only
reply once? How are we planning to push
[42:41] it out and promote it? Who's the target
audience? Are we all um supposed to be
[42:46] pushing it out to all of our networks?
Is the city doing that? Is it everyone?
[42:50] Could you walk us through a little bit
more kind of what does success look like
[42:53] for this survey? Thanks. I
>> I will have to double check on the ISP
[42:57] address question. And I don't know the
answer to that question right now. Uh as
[43:01] it relates to the survey we are going to
be sending out to uh contractors those
[43:06] who have been through the development
process that we have emails for. Uh we
[43:09] will be putting it on social media with
the caveat that um it's very specific to
[43:14] this development process. So we're
looking for people who have been through
[43:17] the development process to answer the
questions and there's there's a couple
[43:21] of offramps within the questionnaire as
well that ask those questions to
[43:25] confirm. Um, so, uh, we'll be pushing it
a couple times, uh, well, more than a
[43:30] couple times through the city, uh,
resources.
[43:33] » Wonderful. It's great to hear that
you're sending it directly to those who
[43:36] have already been through our
development process as well. If you are
[43:38] able to confirm kind of how they're
planning to do the data control around
[43:43] it to ensure that the results are as um,
as useful as possible. That would be
[43:49] much appreciated.
>> Absolutely.
[43:51] » Okay. Okay. And just for clarification
on that survey, it is for the
[43:54] consultants that uh are dealing with the
processes within city government. Okay.
[44:00] Uh all set for the administrator's
report. We're good.
[44:03] » Yes, sir.
>> Moving on to number nine, discussion
[44:05] about the community recycling update.
City administrator on that one.
[44:09] » Yeah. We have uh representatives from
Apex here to talk about their new
[44:13] community recycling program and ask them
to come up at this point.
[44:17] Welcome gentlemen or sir.
>> Good evening. Um evening
[44:24] » really appreciate the opportunity to
address.
[44:26] » Make sure you're nice and close to that
mic. Appreciate it.
[44:28] » Can you hear me? Okay. Yep.
>> Um appreciate the opportunity to address
[44:31] council. Um my name is Scott Lucash,
founder of uh Apex and President and I'm
[44:36] joined here with our general manager
Chris Broshu. Um the goal today is is
[44:41] really to bring some just information
and awareness to what's going on in the
[44:45] state and how it's going to impact
Canyon residents. Um you may have
[44:49] noticed a lot of uh carts getting
delivered. There are recycling carts
[44:52] with blue lids to residents in this
community. And a little background, let
[44:57] me just make sure that this works. A
little background on this program. Um
[45:03] EPR is what it's called. It was it was
passed um in 22. It's taken about four
[45:09] years to kind of get to the stage today
uh where we're we're in the process of
[45:13] implementing it. And essentially what
it's going to do Colorado as a whole has
[45:17] really struggled with diversion and
recycling. Um EPR is coming in and what
[45:22] they are doing is the the producers are
funding am I moving the pro? Sorry about
[45:27] that. Um
the producers are funding the program um
[45:32] paying into it to get you know really ac
uh accessibility to recycling to all
[45:38] residents whether you're in a rural
community in Denver in in Colorado
[45:43] Springs, PBLO or Canyon City. And it's
going to make recycling um affordable in
[45:49] that there is no cost to the resident.
Um and it it's going to you know we're
[45:54] going to provide a rollout cart uh Apex
submitted for a reimburse a
[45:59] reimbursement rate. So once the program
goes live which we are really close to
[46:03] we think it could start September
October um that we will get reimbursed
[46:08] for curbside recycling at the curb. So
it's going to be accessible to all
[46:13] residents here at no charge. Um the cool
thing is we did we started doing
[46:18] communication on this about two months
ago just letting you know informing our
[46:21] customers hey this is coming our you
know let us know if you don't want to
[46:25] participate. We anticipated you know a
pretty high opt out ratio. Um,
[46:31] surprisingly in the last, you know, 2
months, we we we've only gotten less
[46:35] than 5% almost 2 or 3%. That said, hey,
I don't want to participate. I don't
[46:40] have room. Um, you know, other reasons
and what that was for. But, uh, what
[46:46] it's telling me is that the residents do
want to recycle here. Um, and we're
[46:49] seeing it in the other communities where
we provide service. So, it's it's a new
[46:53] program. This is the biggest thing that
probably has happened on recycling and
[46:57] waste collection in 20 25 years in the
state. And you know the the real motive
[47:02] of the program is to just give access to
every community and um you know rural
[47:08] communities have been a real challenge
with recycling because the reality is
[47:11] it's you know from a cost perspective
it's really difficult to make sense
[47:15] economically for it. This takes that off
the table and gives access to even the
[47:19] most remote communities in the state.
So, we just wanted an opportunity to
[47:24] really come down and talk to you a
little bit about what the program is in
[47:27] case that you get questions. And it is,
you know, a statewide and and Apex is
[47:32] participating member of the program, the
EPR program that is administered by a
[47:38] company called Circular Action Alliance.
So, um we're dropping carts at residents
[47:44] and and you know, the response has been
great. Uh a lot of people call in and
[47:48] say, "Hey, when am I going to get our
cart?" So, the one thing we
[47:51] underestimated is we we didn't know what
percentage of the community would
[47:55] participate and um and we're getting a
surprise, you know, surprising reaction,
[48:00] a lot more than we anticipated
originally, which is great um because we
[48:04] didn't know, you know, there there's no
Colorado EPR program is really the first
[48:08] of its kind where it's addressing
processing and collection at the same
[48:13] time. Um it did go into Oregon u a
little earlier, but that was just on the
[48:18] processing side. So the model of what
Colorado is doing probably will be the
[48:22] model for the rest of the country. So I
think there everybody's watching this
[48:25] very closely but a lot of people didn't
know about it. So, you know, we asked if
[48:29] we could join here tonight and just at a
high level just, you know, tell you what
[48:33] what it's all about. Um, kind of our
initial response from the residents,
[48:38] which has been very over, you know,
overwhelmingly positive and and and and
[48:43] what we're trying to accomplish and and
you know, the the best thing is we have
[48:47] a landfill here in town, but we want to
maximize the life of that landfill. And
[48:50] hopefully, you know, it's the only
landfill that, you know, is ever in the
[48:53] county. um but you know by diverting
more and and it's usually estimated that
[48:59] 35% of your waist stream is recyclable.
So, I would say the one comment we're
[49:04] getting back is maybe I don't know if I
generate enough recycling to make sense
[49:09] of the program. And so, our customer
service people are trying to educate,
[49:13] hey, here's what's recyclable, you know,
and and think about the Amazon effect.
[49:16] Every cardboard box is recyclable. Um,
you know, your plastics are highly
[49:21] recyclable. Um, you're going to see the
producers, um, and the producers backing
[49:25] this program are the Walmart, Walmarts,
Coke, Pepsi, the all the names we know.
[49:31] They're going to make their packaging um
more recyclable. Um get away from some
[49:37] of the the the the commodities that are
less, you know, make less econ economic
[49:42] sense to do their packaging in. And
they're going to try to get it in ones
[49:46] and twos, which are highly recyclable,
highly reusable. So, it's a it's a new
[49:50] program. Um and we just wanted to get in
front, like I said, because I I know you
[49:55] might be getting calls, hey, what is
this all about? Um and we want you to be
[49:59] prepared for the the answer. But uh it's
at no cost to the resident and actually
[50:03] the the customers that are seeing the
recycling uh that are participating in
[50:08] the program before this went into effect
will see their bill go down because that
[50:12] the recycling portion of it will come
off and it'll get reimbursed through the
[50:16] the PRO which is administering the
program. So yeah, this is just a little
[50:21] overview of what we've done. Um kind of
how we're uh you know, our early
[50:26] communication informing the our
residents. Cart delivery started last
[50:30] week. Um we hope to to start our
collection the 21st. Uh- which would be
[50:37] the first collection day for these new
customers that have just received carts.
[50:40] So, um, we're we're moving right along
and, um, really excited about the
[50:46] program, but a lot of people are, you
know, just not aware of, hey, what is
[50:49] this all about? Where did this come
from? And that that was a little of the
[50:52] history. So, um, we have a lot of good
resources on our website. Um, if you go
[50:58] to uh our the Apex website locally, we
have a whole page dedicated to what the
[51:02] program is all about, how it works, who
to contact if you have questions um as
[51:08] as the program rolls out in full. So,
that was really the extent of it, but uh
[51:13] you certainly could open it any
questions if that's appropriate.
[51:16] » Just uh define Apex as far as who you
are and then I've got a whole list of
[51:21] people who want to ask you some
questions.
[51:22] » Yeah. So, so Apex Twin Envirro, we we
are the local uh waste and recycling
[51:26] provider here in Canyon City. Um been
operating for many many years. Um I ca I
[51:33] purchased the company um with some
investors uh about three year four year
[51:38] two years ago um from from the the the
prior owner who was just nearing
[51:43] retirement age. So yeah, we've been in
this community for a long long time and
[51:46] yeah, we provide all the waste and
recycling services um you know uh
[51:50] throughout Canyon and and Fremont
County.
[51:53] » Very good. Thank you. Okay, I've got
five up uh actually number six now. So
[51:58] here we go.
>> Council members Misher.
[52:00] » Thank you. Um you mentioned a couple of
times based on eligibility, is everyone
[52:05] who lives in Canyon City eligible?
>> Good question. Um in theory, yes. Uh
[52:10] there might be some re really remote
locations that we just don't have the
[52:15] equipment yet to do it. But our plan
over time is to get it access to
[52:20] everybody within our service footprint.
But we're starting really with the the
[52:24] the city and periphery city limits and
and and we will expand as as we grow
[52:28] into the program.
>> And are the things that can be recycled
[52:32] the same as what you currently accept?
>> Yes, for the most part. Um, CAA does
[52:38] require a a minimum recyclables list
which is on our it's on our container.
[52:43] It's on our website site. So, definitely
encourage residents to go and see what
[52:46] those things are and they may change
from time to time.
[52:51] » Okay. Um, and you had mentioned a couple
of times carts, but based on the photo,
[52:56] it looks like they are the normal
dumpsters that y'all currently provide
[53:00] and people can ratchet strap them shut
if they have bears. Is that So, it's
[53:04] just the typical. It's not a change. No,
it's it will just have a blue lid. It
[53:08] will have the same color body, but a
blue lid, which disting distinguishes uh
[53:12] recycling.
>> Perfect. Correct.
[53:13] » And then this may actually be a question
for the city administrator or city
[53:17] staff. I believe we do have other
recycling companies in town. Do you know
[53:20] if they are also participating or
eligible for EPR?
[53:25] » That's a good question. I don't know off
the top of my head. IO
[53:34] » I also don't know but I believe they
have to opt in if they want to
[53:37] participate. So if you contact the other
haulers and providers this is a program
[53:41] that the haulers has to have to kind of
choose to be a part of if they want to.
[53:46] » Thank you. That's really helpful and
thanks so much for coming and sharing
[53:48] this information with us tonight. It's
really helpful.
[53:51] » Yeah.
>> And yeah I can just add to to to that
[53:54] comment. Anybody can participate, but
you do have to submit agreements and
[53:59] things like that to get the
reimbursement. So, it there's nobody
[54:02] excluded from the program. You just have
to register for it.
[54:06] » Understood. Thank you.
>> Yep. Council member Tony.
[54:09] » Yeah. Thanks for coming uh and thanks
for being here for decades.
[54:14] » Yes.
>> But, uh can you quickly go through the
[54:17] recycle cycle drill? if uh we put
something in the recycle, is it
[54:23] completed here or does it go to another
facility? And number two, is there
[54:28] future charges to residents?
>> Yeah, great great question. So, uh the
[54:34] cool thing is we have a transfer station
here where we move recyclables through
[54:38] that transfer station. So, we're going
to aggregate it on the floor um maximize
[54:42] it in an over over the road trailer to
go get recycle. We're not actually doing
[54:46] the physical processing here. We're
doing the transfer of the processing to
[54:51] a plastics, you know, recycler likely go
to Colorado Springs. They have big
[54:55] automated MURFs, they're called material
recovery uh facilities. So, we will be
[55:00] the transfer point um for here in Canyon
for that. So, we can aggregate it, you
[55:05] know, if there's another participating
member, they can they can drop it on
[55:08] that floor so they can participate and
we bring it and then then we move the
[55:11] materials to the final processing
facility where it goes. Um, you know,
[55:16] the program is built as a nocost program
by the producers. Um, so, you know, the
[55:22] that's what we know about it and there
is no cost to that. Um, you know, could
[55:26] things change down the road, we don't
control that. It would be the the the
[55:31] program itself, but to my knowledge, the
the plan is no cost recycling in the
[55:35] state.
>> City administrator, are you still up?
[55:40] Uh, you went away. You're good. Okay.
Council member McCuller.
[55:43] » Thank you, Mr. mayor and thank you for
being here and educating us and helping
[55:47] our community understand the value of
this. Um I don't have any questions per
[55:52] se, but I do remember growing up in a
canyon city without recycling. Well, it
[55:56] wasn't that we didn't have recycling
facilities, but they were the ones that
[55:59] you had to bring your stuff to in the
parking lot. And I think this is such a
[56:03] great thing for our community. And as
folks who live in a rural area, we know
[56:07] that we have to be really good stewards
of our our waste so that we can keep our
[56:12] rural areas looking good. So, I'm really
excited to see the impact this can have
[56:15] for our town.
>> Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, if there's one
[56:19] area that that really helps recycling is
just that education piece, and we're
[56:22] going to really try to promote that
education. You know, right now, you
[56:26] know, typical recycling streams probably
have 15 to 20% that is contaminated. You
[56:30] know, uh pizza boxes is the people get
confused by it. If it's wax coated, it's
[56:36] not recyclable. People think cardboard,
oh, it's recyclable. So, we're going to
[56:39] try to really uh push the the the
education of the program, too. But,
[56:44] yeah, there might be things that we can
do collectively or collaboratively to
[56:48] just get that message out there now that
this program is really going to change.
[56:52] » Can you educate the bears?
>> I wish I could. I wish I could.
[56:55] » I wish you could as well.
>> Yes. Good thing is recycling, no odor.
[57:00] Um, typically not a bear issue. Um, you
know, garbage is where they go for
[57:04] » the trash.
>> Yep.
[57:06] » Pizza boxes.
>> Yep. Council member Maloney, thank you.
[57:10] Is this residential only?
>> Yes, the the program is focused on
[57:14] residential only. There is a component
of the program that would come in 2028
[57:19] 29 that would focus on commercial
recycling. Um but that is like a second
[57:24] phase of the program is my
understanding. So I I think commercial
[57:29] and commercial would be your business.
You have a trash container out there and
[57:33] then you would have an equivalent
recycling container there in the steel
[57:36] box. So, that eventually is part of this
program, but that is not part of this
[57:40] first phase.
>> Um, I was curious because a week or two
[57:44] ago, a couple of those totes showed up
in the alley behind my business and I
[57:49] wasn't sure
>> did So, did was it possible some of the
[57:52] other commercial people signed up for a
recycling program and those things
[57:55] showed up?
>> It it shouldn't be. it was delivered and
[57:58] that not to say our data was perfect but
uh if there was a residential person
[58:03] anywhere on premise it could have gotten
placed at the wrong side but we have
[58:06] fielded about probably about 50 calls
saying hey you know this came here I
[58:11] don't you know this is a a commercial
business so we're we're recovering those
[58:15] as we learn about them
>> okay and really quick I could probably
[58:19] go to the website but can I sign up for
recycling for my commercial business now
[58:23] even if I had to pay for it? Yes,
absolutely.
[58:26] » Okay.
>> Just it's just no cost at this point. At
[58:29] some point it will be at, you know,
potentially at no cost with EPR.
[58:33] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Yep.
[58:35] » Council member Reeves.
>> Uh I haven't worked for Twin at one
[58:41] point. I know that recycling wasn't
something that we did and um seeing the
[58:46] amount of waste. I think that people
underestimate the amount of waste that
[58:50] we really make. And um when I was
managing the ice company, I I tried to
[58:54] find places that would recycle in mass
quantities. And so it's it's a long
[59:00] needed thing for our community is to
have this. And I know that Chris, you
[59:03] know, has been working Chris, by the
way, is my brother. He's been working at
[59:07] Twin for a lot of years. We've came a
long ways from when we started there.
[59:12] Um, but he's built that recycling
facility and you guys are adding to it
[59:17] and it's awesome to see for our
community.
[59:21] » And we should do a podcast about this.
We should go out there to their facility
[59:25] and show the whole thing.
>> I mean, really with you, too, by the
[59:29] way. Leo.
[59:33] » Okay. Um,
um, Ryan, you're back on.
[59:37] » I am. I you know, we got our recycling
tote last week and I have a second
[59:43] grader who's very excited cuz he had
just learned about uh recycling in
[59:47] school.
>> Uh are you partnering with any of the
[59:50] schools on probably not this
presentation, but recycling in general
[59:53] to try and push or drive some of that
recycling effort? Yeah. Yeah. I I mean,
[59:59] certainly with this program coming on
and and I think it would be a great, you
[1:00:03] know, we we do it in a lot of
communities we're in and and I think
[1:00:06] that's a great way to be honest with
you. The best recyclers are usually the
[1:00:09] kids telling their parents what is and
isn't recyclable. So, you know, that
[1:00:13] that is something that we definitely
should do more of now that this program
[1:00:16] is really coming. Before it was a very
very low percentage of of people
[1:00:20] participating and there was a cost to it
cuz it was it was cost to get out. Now,
[1:00:24] you know, this program really kind of
levels the playing field there for
[1:00:27] residents to participate. So, um, great
great advice, uh, to get more involved
[1:00:32] with the schools. I think that'd be
great for this session.
[1:00:37] » Okay, we thank you for coming tonight.
Thank you so much.
[1:00:40] » Wait, excuse me.
Okay. Council member Denny,
[1:00:43] » one one question real quick because I've
had a few people the the totes that you
[1:00:47] dropped off
>> and collected last week. Are those
[1:00:50] recycling ones that you dropped off or I
saw some being picked up, some being
[1:00:55] dropped off?
>> Mhm.
[1:00:56] » That's what I was just kind of just so
we can kind of maybe clear the air
[1:01:00] there. the the ones that are getting
dropped off will have a blue lid, which
[1:01:04] which and and and an instructional
packet on it on what the program is all
[1:01:08] about, how to reach out to us.
>> Uh but yeah, the blue lids will be known
[1:01:13] as the recycling container. Same color
bodies are going to be black and black,
[1:01:16] but and then the black lids are your
trash, but there's markings on the top
[1:01:20] of the lid. Um little examples of what
is and isn't recyclable on that. Um but
[1:01:25] yeah, they are the blue ones. So, you
are actually but even changing out the
[1:01:29] others as well at the same time right
now.
[1:01:32] » Yeah, I don't I don't think we're we're
really changing out the trash. We
[1:01:35] shouldn't be unless Yeah, I I don't
think so, Chris. Correct.
[1:01:38] » Okay, that's just good to know. All
right, thank you.
[1:01:41] » Yep.
>> Thank you again for coming. Appreciate
[1:01:43] it.
>> Appreciate it.
[1:01:45] » Okay,
>> city administrator, there's no staff
[1:01:47] report on this, right?
>> On what?
[1:01:51] » On Apex? No.
>> Yeah. Okay. So number
[1:01:56] 9B uh we're dealing with a second
reading and adoption by title only of
[1:02:00] ordinance 12 series 2026 entitle an
ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as
[1:02:04] municipal judge and approving the
contract for services. Uh any staff
[1:02:09] report on this? You've had nothing else
from first reading.
[1:02:11] » Second reading. We don't have any
additional information and staff would
[1:02:15] recommend passing on second reading.
>> Okay. Any discussion? I'm open to a
[1:02:19] motion. Council member Tony.
If there's no discussion, I'd like to
[1:02:24] make the motion to uh pass on the second
reading of adoption by title only of
[1:02:28] ordinance 12 series 2026 entitled an
ordinance appointing Larry Dean Allen as
[1:02:34] municipal judge and approving the
contract for services.
[1:02:37] » Uh council member Reeves,
>> I second.
[1:02:40] » Any discussion on the motion?
Hearing none, let's go ahead and vote.
[1:02:53] and the clerk
>> passed by majority.
[1:02:56] » Okay, very good. So, the next uh regular
city council meeting is going to be on
[1:03:00] September the 26th. Uh we do have a
special city council meeting tomorrow
[1:03:04] night uh dealing with the clock tower
plaza and uh we now have a uh meeting
[1:03:09] set up for September 30th uh dealing
with uh the committee structure. And I
[1:03:14] know that we've got more on deck as far
as uh dealing with uh the um drain issue
[1:03:21] and uh the we're going to have on the
30th also your review, but we'll have
[1:03:26] one in the future on the attorneys as
well. So that's the docket and with that
[1:03:30] we are adjourned for this evening.