1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,560 To order, Council meeting today 2 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,040 January 9th, 2026. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Like to recognize the absence of our 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Council Chair, Goodlander. She is absent today 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,920 and 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,960 uh 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Councilman 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Keegan Garrity is not is not with us. 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,720 Um 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,120 We have the opening remarks will be 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,440 provided by Council Member Mark Hurd. 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,400 >> Right. 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Thank you, Madam Chair. Just briefly 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,400 I've just been on my mind so I wanted to 15 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,040 phrase it hopefully simple 16 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,200 but 17 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,480 uh 18 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:41,360 community of terms that uh 19 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,080 I'm grateful for the freedoms we enjoy 20 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,480 in this land 21 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,560 and I would just encourage each 22 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,240 one in attendance or listening to 23 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 uh take the time. If you know a veteran, 24 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 give them a handshake, tell them thanks. 25 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,880 If you can still hug your mother, do so. 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,840 And with that, I'd like to uh continue 27 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,720 with the prayer. 28 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,390 >> Thank you. 29 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 » Our Father in heaven, we ask thee 30 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,840 for thy presence to abide here with us 31 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,440 this evening as we begin our County Council meeting. 32 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,400 We're grateful, Father, for the 33 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,680 opportunity we have as 34 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,280 citizens of our community to be able to 35 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,080 participate in the government that uh 36 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,440 prevails in this land. We're grateful, 37 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Father, for the means and opportunities 38 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,240 that thou has blessed 39 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,280 our community with and we pray for 40 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,760 thy hand to continually be 41 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,080 in the lives of of our friends and 42 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,560 family around us. 43 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,360 We pray for protection of thy spirit to 44 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,520 be 45 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,120 with our law enforcement 46 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,400 and our 47 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,240 military service members. We ask thee to 48 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,640 continually watch over and protect them. 49 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,360 We pray, Father, for 50 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,880 preservation of this land and for the 51 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,720 protection of the freedoms 52 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,040 that are 53 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,000 enshrined in the Constitution. We pray 54 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,160 for 55 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 the clarity of thought to fulfill our 56 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,000 oath of office to protect and defend 57 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,800 this Constitution. 58 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,036 We pray, Father, for 59 00:02:09,036 --> 00:02:09,840 >> [cough and clears throat] 60 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,680 >> We pray We offer a prayer of gratitude 61 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,920 for the 62 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,080 opportunities we have to know of thy 63 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,720 love for us and the opportunity we have 64 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,400 to serve one another. 65 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,680 We say this in the name of Jesus Christ. 66 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Amen. 67 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,320 >> Amen. 68 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,600 >> And last, please rise and join me in the 69 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,630 Pledge of Allegiance. 70 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,800 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 71 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,120 United States of America, 72 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,280 and to the republic for which it stands, 73 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,080 one nation under God, indivisible, with 74 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,240 liberty and justice for all. 75 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,430 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. 76 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,070 » Thank you. 77 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,240 I will accept a motion to approve this 78 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,400 evening's agenda. 79 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,040 >> So moved. 80 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:55,720 >> Second. 81 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,400 >> We have a motion by council member 82 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,472 >> Gunnell. 83 00:02:59,472 --> 00:03:00,080 >> [laughter] 84 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 >> Nolan. And And seconded by Dave. Um all 85 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,000 those in favor say aye. 86 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,280 >> Aye. 87 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,840 And I will accept a motion to 88 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,760 approve that both of the minutes for the 89 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,800 workshop on the 26th as well as the 90 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,360 council meeting minutes. 91 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,600 >> Move to approve. 92 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,560 >> And second. 93 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,360 >> And a second. Okay, any further 94 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,840 discussion? 95 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Okay, all those in favor say aye. 96 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,519 >> Aye. 97 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:23,360 >> I will abstain. I was not in attendance 98 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,480 at that meeting. 99 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Um now we'll move on to the report from 100 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,680 our county executive. 101 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,000 >> I I have no appointment, Madam Chair. I 102 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,040 would tell you that most of our time is 103 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,400 spent working with fire board issues and 104 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,640 trying to get um 105 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,959 progress in that area. 106 00:03:41,959 --> 00:03:44,800 >> Okay, thank you. 107 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Um we will move on to 108 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,760 um the items of special interest. Um 109 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,040 we have the um 2026 Cache County Royalty 110 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,080 um that is joining us, as you can see 111 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,320 here on the front row, and we have Trish 112 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Gibbs, who is here um on that's going to 113 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,040 be introducing them. Uh I'm sorry, I 114 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,000 don't know which one Trish Trish Gibbs. 115 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Would you please come and to the 116 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 microphone and um 117 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,840 present each of them is is that no? Yes? 118 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:19,760 >> I'm going to interview them. 119 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,880 >> Okay, we'll have them introduce 120 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,080 themselves. But, thank you for joining 121 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,919 us tonight. So, if you'll take turns 122 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:27,840 coming to the microphone, and it looks 123 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,200 like you're prepared. So, please. 124 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,640 >> Now, this is being broadcast through the 125 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,240 whole world. 126 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,640 So, 127 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,630 smile. 128 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,040 » Hello, everyone. My name is Reese Page, 129 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 and I'm your 2026 Cache County Fair and 130 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Rodeo Queen. 131 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,080 My roots are in deep here in Cache 132 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,000 County. My parents are Derek and Jamie 133 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Page, and you might even know my 134 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,880 grandparents, Daris and Dixie Page. 135 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Um our fair and rodeo is being talked 136 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,919 about all over the country. I've had the 137 00:04:58,919 --> 00:05:01,120 chance to talk with professional rodeo 138 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,400 athletes, and even world champions, and 139 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,160 they always have good things to say 140 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 about our event. More often than not, 141 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,080 they bring up our beautiful fairgrounds. 142 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,919 It's got lush trees, a wonderful river 143 00:05:12,919 --> 00:05:15,960 flowing through it, and lots of shade, 144 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 while also still being in a convenient 145 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,960 location near town. 146 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,320 As well as they often bring up our 147 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 wonderful payout. We are one of the 148 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,919 highest paying out rodeos in per rodeo, 149 00:05:28,919 --> 00:05:31,240 and because of this, we qualify to be in 150 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,000 the CINCH Governor's Cup circuit, which 151 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,680 attracts the best competition around, 152 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,800 and more times than not, world 153 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,480 champions. So, because Cache County Fair 154 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,880 and Rodeo is such a unique um 155 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 event due to its location and tough 156 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,040 competition. We would love for you guys 157 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,920 to come because it's truly something 158 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,320 that you won't want to miss out on. 159 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,324 >> Thank you. 160 00:05:56,324 --> 00:05:58,000 >> [clears throat] 161 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,200 >> Hello everyone. I'm Hadley Thompson. I'm 162 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,840 the Cache County First Attendant Queen. 163 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,480 I am so excited to be here. 164 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,880 Cache County Rodeo is one event you 165 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,840 won't want to miss. 166 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,280 Last year we welcomed more than 81,000 167 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:14,520 people. 168 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Filled every seat and sold out all four 169 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 nights. If we had more bleachers, we're 170 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,520 confident they would be filled, too. 171 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,280 We also had over 700 contestants entries 172 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,600 last year. 173 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,720 Bringing top talent and exciting 174 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 competition to the arena. 175 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Join us August 5th through the 7th for 176 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,840 an unforgettable experience. 177 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:43,040 Tickets range from $15 to $27 depending 178 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,280 on the night seating. 179 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:48,160 Depending on the night and whether you 180 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,080 choose covered seating. 181 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,000 We'd love to see you there. Get your 182 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,280 tickets early. They tend to go fast. 183 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:59,390 Thank you. 184 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,919 » I'm Breanna Bassett and I am the Cache 185 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:04,480 County Fair and Rodeo Second Attendant 186 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,640 Queen and I love the Cache County Fair 187 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,400 and Rodeo. I grew up showing goats at 188 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,400 the fair and going to the night every 189 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 rodeo with my parents Justin and Carly 190 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Bassett. 191 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,480 And let me tell you, not only is the 192 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 rodeo athletes one of my favorite parts, 193 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,000 but also the entertainment we have. We 194 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 have Parker Haviland coming this year 195 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,600 bringing his beautiful big black horses 196 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 and they all hitch together and they 197 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,160 pull a wagon. And they work hard all 198 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,840 year long to bring us something 199 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:42,590 different each year. Thank you. 200 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,960 » Hi, I My name is Dixie Christiansen. I'm 201 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,160 the Cache County Junior Queen. 202 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,640 I'm from Richmond, Utah. My parents are 203 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Timothy and Denise Christiansen. 204 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Because of our outstanding rodeo, 205 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 livestock, vendors, and carnival, we 206 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,280 were voted best of Northern Utah's 207 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 annual event this year, which will be 208 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,720 the sixth time in a row. 209 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,000 So, you should come and enjoy the best 210 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,320 week of the summer at the Cache County 211 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,830 Fair and Rodeo. Thank you. 212 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,120 » Hello everyone. I'm Marley Hall, your 213 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,840 Cache County 2026 Princess. 214 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,919 Being Being part of a royalty looks like 215 00:08:18,919 --> 00:08:21,520 res- representing our rodeo at rodeos 216 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,120 and events in lots of areas, including 217 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Preston, Lewiston, and Hyrum. 218 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,919 It means waving to the crowd 219 00:08:28,919 --> 00:08:31,680 from Lewiston and Hyrum. It means 220 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Sorry. It means waving to the crowd from 221 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,680 horseback in 4th of July parades, 222 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,240 participating in buzz runs, being on the 223 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,840 radio, 224 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,880 thanking sponsors, and taking part in 225 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:48,160 fun royalty photoshoots. Royalty members also help put on Cache 226 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,640 County Fair and Rodeo itself. From 227 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,520 carrying flags and moving cows to 228 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,360 helping with the mutton bustin', 229 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,800 throwing prizes from the truck, and even 230 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,280 signing autographs for little kids. 231 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,560 It's It's a summer full of service, 232 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:04,360 friendships, confidence, and a 233 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,480 unforgettable memories. 234 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,880 We would love for you to come to our 235 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Sorry. For you to come and experience 236 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,680 our queen contest this next year on May 237 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:20,829 29th. Thank you. 238 00:09:20,839 --> 00:09:22,680 » My name's Indiana Earl, and I'm the 239 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,000 junior the Cache County Junior Princess. 240 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,280 My parents are Clayton and Katelyn Earl. 241 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,400 If you come to the Cache County Rodeo 242 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,280 this year, you will see our special 243 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,640 specialty act, Jessica Blair folks, 244 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,640 riding her beautiful white horses, 245 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,440 showing off her Roman riding her trick 246 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 riding skills. Thank you. 247 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,200 >> Thank you. Um as a council, we have a 248 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,520 proclamation. If it's okay, we'll read 249 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,240 it to you right now. 250 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Um this is a proclamation recognizing 251 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,840 and honoring the 2026 Cash County Rodeo 252 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Royalty. 253 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Whereas, the Cash County Rodeo Rodeo 254 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,680 Royalty serve as the official public 255 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:02,840 faces of Cash County promoting our rich 256 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Western heritage and agricultural 257 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,400 traditions throughout the community and 258 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,000 the state of Utah. And whereas, the 259 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,080 members of the royalty court demonstrate 260 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,160 outstanding leadership, exceptional 261 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,560 poise, and elite horsemanship serving as 262 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:17,120 excellent role models for the youth of 263 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Cash Valley. And whereas, their 264 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,880 dedication and hard work significantly 265 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,960 support the success and promotion of the 266 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,200 annual Cash County Fair and Rodeo 267 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 bringing our community together. 268 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the 269 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,600 Cash County Council does hereby 270 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,560 recognize and honor the members of the 271 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:38,440 2026 Cash County Rodeo Royalty Court. 272 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Reese Page, Cash County Rodeo Queen. 273 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Hadley Thompson, first attendant. 274 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Breanna Bassett, second attendant. Dixie 275 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Christensen, junior queen. Marley Hall, 276 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,920 princess. Indiana Earl, junior princess. 277 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,800 And thank them for their dedicated 278 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,360 service, leadership, and excellent 279 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,120 representation of Cash County throughout 280 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,040 their tenure. 281 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 I will accept a motion to approve the 282 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,520 proclamation. 283 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,440 >> So moved. 284 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,560 >> Second. 285 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:08,120 >> We've got jumping at the bit. 286 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,640 All those in favor say I. 287 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,240 >> I. 288 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 >> Thank you so much for representing Cash 289 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,280 County and for everything that you do 290 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,360 with such poise. And what are you Would 291 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,600 you rather do, ride a horse or come and 292 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,172 talk to the county council? 293 00:11:23,172 --> 00:11:29,710 >> [laughter] 294 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,342 » Thank Thank much. Uh would you 295 00:11:32,342 --> 00:11:32,440 >> [applause] 296 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,917 >> Round OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE. 297 00:11:36,927 --> 00:11:38,520 » [applause] 298 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,680 >> ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW WE WOULD 299 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:42,840 LIKE TO GIVE THE opportunity to have a 300 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,560 photo op for the royalty and and 301 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,560 2-minute recess for them to come and get 302 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,360 a a picture. Um so, if everyone could 303 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,240 just 304 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,640 breathe easy for a minute and they can 305 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,040 come up and take a picture here. 306 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,720 With the council? 307 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,000 >> We'll settle that on the way. 308 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,120 >> Yeah, you guys can come up here. We 309 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,720 don't need to be in it. 310 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,600 >> Can I get a small picture with you guys 311 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,400 there, too? 312 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,000 >> You can get a picture with us here if 313 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,748 you'd like. 314 00:12:05,748 --> 00:12:05,880 >> [laughter] 315 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,550 >> I was going to put them in the chairs. 316 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,560 » Okay. 317 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:13,800 >> Go all the way over. 318 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,800 >> Well, we don't want to be blocking 319 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,520 >> You're 320 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:21,990 >> No, we do want you blocking the sign. 321 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,840 » What's the average weight of those hats? 322 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:46,800 They look like they got a lot of prom moms out there. 323 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,950 >> Could you guys see? 324 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,640 » Thank you so much for coming to see us. 325 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,390 Thank you for all you 326 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,720 Um we give it to you and we have copies 327 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,560 Oh, we have multiple copies. So, we'll 328 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:03,760 go ahead and distribute. Well, you can 329 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,320 take that one and we'll provide copies. 330 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:05,880 >> Well, thank you so much. 331 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,560 >> Thank you. 332 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:07,880 Thank you for coming to see 333 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,894 us. 334 00:13:11,904 --> 00:13:16,829 » [clears throat] 335 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:18,320 » You're welcome to stay for the remainder 336 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,880 of our meeting. 337 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:29,470 >> You'll just love it. 338 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,080 » Thank you. 339 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,680 so much. 340 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,240 >> Thank you. 341 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,480 >> Good luck. We'll see you guys at the 342 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,200 rodeo on August 5th and 343 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,680 >> through the 8th. 344 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:38,480 >> Thank you. 345 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,520 >> It'll be great again. 346 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,280 >> Thank you. 347 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:48,510 Thanks for all you do. 348 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Aw, this 349 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,280 meeting got a lot less sparkly. 350 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,160 We will 351 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,080 >> they're good people, okay? 352 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,520 They're nice. You're doing good. 353 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,840 >> It's not sparkly. 354 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,600 Um continuing with our 355 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,200 agenda, 356 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,040 we will have a presentation for VAWA, 357 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,270 VOCA, and 358 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,480 presented by County Attorney Dane 359 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Murray, as well as the Cache County 360 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Deputy Attorney Andrew Crane, Sarah 361 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Owen, Cache County Victim Advocate 362 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Supervisor, Scott Bodily, Cache County 363 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Children's Justice Center Coordinator. 364 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:30,550 Andrew, thank you. 365 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,800 » Andrew Crane with the County Attorney's 366 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Office. We'll give it a moment to decide 367 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,480 to pull that. Part of the as you're well 368 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,600 aware, one of the requirements for the 369 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,640 VAWA grant is to do a presentation to 370 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,960 the council uh twice a year basically, 371 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,160 so this is part of that grant 372 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:51,390 requirement. 373 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Most of what I'm going to go over today 374 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,839 you've already seen, so if you have any 375 00:14:53,839 --> 00:14:55,360 questions, feel free to jump in, but 376 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,600 really here's uh the mission of the County Attorney's 377 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Office. I'm not going to read that. 378 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:00,960 You're well aware of that. There's been 379 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,280 no change. Basically, we're here to 380 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,160 uphold and defend the Constitution 381 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,839 as best we can to make sure rights of 382 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:08,839 all are protected. 383 00:15:08,839 --> 00:15:12,120 Um going over the VAWA over overview, 384 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,800 essentially what we have um again, 385 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,600 there's been no change to what we have 386 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 going on. Um there are three SVEU 387 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,200 prosecutors. You have one in each 388 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,400 district court, and myself, Josh Cohn, 389 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Mark Winkel, spread out among the judges 390 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,200 there. They're also two of our 391 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,680 investigators are on the ground as well, 392 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,640 Nick and Nate. And so, give a shout out 393 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,200 to them. They've been very helpful for 394 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,960 us in helping us get and follow up on 395 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 cases. I've used them often, and they 396 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 are an indispensable resource in getting 397 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,630 follow up done on the cases. 398 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Um as far as the uh current grant year 399 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,760 award that we are in, 2024-2025, it's a 400 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,040 2-year cycle. Again, there hasn't been 401 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,400 any changes to this. These are some of 402 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,120 the requirements we have to do. Again, 403 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,400 talk about the We do semi-annual and 404 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,040 annual reporting to UOVC, and we have to 405 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,200 track our time and hours what we 406 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,720 with what we spend on the VAWA cases. 407 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Um 408 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,440 that 409 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,440 Just I guess just a note for 410 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Coming up next year, we'll be in the 411 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,840 grant cycle again. I'm not sure what the 412 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,640 funding will look like when it comes to 413 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,960 going through this process again next 414 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,000 year. I'm sure we'll have more 415 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,800 discussions as that comes up, but given 416 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,800 the track record with what's happening 417 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,760 on the federal side of things, I 418 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,520 wouldn't I would not be shocked if what 419 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,280 is available if we are granted anything 420 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,240 would be lower again as well. So, just 421 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,800 to give you a heads up on that. 422 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Uh just want to throw out some 423 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 information on what uh we've have 424 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,320 reported. Uh you'll see what we reported 425 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,080 back in 2024 with the number of cases 426 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,800 that were investigated by our 427 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,640 investigators and cases received and 428 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,560 reviewed by the prosecutors. Kind of see 429 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,320 the differences there between 2024 and 430 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,960 2025. For the most part, everything has 431 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,080 gone up. 432 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Um so, it has been a busy uh time for us 433 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,200 in the office 434 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 um with handling everything that uh we 435 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,400 handle. So, unless there are any 436 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 questions, that is what I have, and I'll 437 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,920 be followed by Sarah. 438 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,000 >> Is there any reason to account for the 439 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,160 domestic violence to be 440 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,000 to have that dramatic of an increase? 441 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,839 >> It is. That was a big increase. Um 442 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:06,360 I honestly don't know. It's just really 443 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:07,480 ebbs and flows. I don't know if Dana I 444 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,240 don't know if you have anything you want 445 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,000 to share on that as well, but 446 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,640 >> I'm going to speak a little bit, and I 447 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,040 think what I'm going to talk about will 448 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,319 probably be I I I'd answer for right 449 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:16,160 now, but 450 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,670 >> Okay, I will hold that. 451 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,640 » Thank you, 452 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,069 any other questions? 453 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:37,750 » Thank you. 454 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,680 All right, so this is a little bit 455 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,840 overview of the Cash County Victim 456 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Services. Um, these are our three 457 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,960 different funding sources. Um, so my 458 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,560 reporting will be about the Voca, the 459 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Victims of Crime Act and the UVSP, the 460 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Utah Victim Services Provider. So we are 461 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,960 funded by federal grants, state grants 462 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,320 and then our county [snorts] 463 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,240 county funds. 464 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,120 Um, same with Andrew, as he said, uh, we 465 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,480 haven't had a we haven't been provided a 466 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,640 lot of information about what the grants 467 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,800 uh, financial side is going to look 468 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,120 like, um, but I think that is the 469 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:05,920 continual trend that we've heard for 470 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,920 last many, many years. Um, and so we 471 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,400 will report to you um, as soon as we 472 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,320 hear that information, um, but I think 473 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,320 that is to be expected, um, of a 474 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,160 decrease in in our at least federal 475 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,510 funding at this time. 476 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Um, just again, our personnel overview, 477 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,640 uh, we have six full-time victim 478 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,680 coordinators. Uh, together we cover the 479 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,520 district, juvenile and specialty courts 480 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,640 in the first district. Uh, our district 481 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,440 court, uh, Sarah, Tonya, Jenny and 482 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Caitlin, uh, we are all on the Voca 483 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,800 grant. Uh, the juvenile court is Candace 484 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 and that is our UVSP grant. District and 485 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,640 juvenile court is Linda, um, she is our 486 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,120 bilingual Spanish speaking advocate. Um, 487 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,560 Caitlin covers our specialty courts, 488 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,080 that is mental health and and drug 489 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,960 court. And all of our 490 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,240 coordinators cover our on-scene 491 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,800 response. Um, and we have an executive 492 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,960 assistant, Jennifer, um, who is critical 493 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,640 to our team. 494 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,640 I know there's a lot of numbers, you're 495 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,200 provided a lot of numbers, um, 496 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,440 but this is our quarter two numbers, um, 497 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,480 of this grant cycle. So from October 498 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,880 25th to December 25th, um, our federal 499 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,520 reporting, these are all the categories 500 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,200 that we have to report. Um, so we track 501 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,520 all of this information on a quarter 502 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,240 daily, but on a quarterly basis that we 503 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,000 turn over um, for our reporting. Um some 504 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,640 of the numbers at the very top um that I 505 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,160 think are helpful to just get a tiny perspective. Um our total new 506 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,920 victims, you know, every quarter we've 507 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,000 got new victims, but every quarter we 508 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,680 also serve 509 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,080 all of our victims at the same time. And 510 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,640 so in this quarter uh we had 301 new 511 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,840 victims, but over our overall our 512 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,600 victims we served were 654. 513 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,280 What's really hard is this is also how 514 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 the federal guidelines want us tracking 515 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,400 these cases. Um I have a personal 516 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,200 opinion um that I think this doesn't 517 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,880 equate for the true number of victims 518 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,080 that we work with during these quarters. 519 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,960 Um I think they are a lot larger. And so 520 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,040 I just wanted to to offer that 521 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,880 perspective on it. Um but as you can 522 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,240 see, you know, we go through what we 523 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,920 call persons and property crimes um and 524 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,560 we serve victims of all across the 525 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,280 board. 526 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Um same for quarter three. This is 527 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:11,600 January um 25 to Oh, shoot. 26. I I'm messed up. I'm so sorry. January 26 528 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,200 to March 26. Um same thing we've had 275 529 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,880 new victims and our overall victims are 530 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,600 688. 531 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Um 532 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,920 and every category ebbs and flows every 533 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,240 quarter, um but that's our numbers for 534 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 quarter three. We're just finishing up 535 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720 quarter four, which will end um at the 536 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,880 end of June, and then we start our year 537 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,160 two cycle um of these grants. Okay. 538 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,600 So I just provided you guys with a lot 539 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,520 of numbers, um but I think numbers don't 540 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,840 equate to every single person. So I 541 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 wanted to give you an example of a 542 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,320 person in our community and what her 543 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 story was like. Um so this is a case of 544 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,960 walking in their shoes. Um this is a 545 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,080 defendant Jerry Rice. 546 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440 I want to walk you through the many many 547 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,120 years that this young girl, as you can 548 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:58,680 see, this case started out when she was 549 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,640 6 to 7 years old. 550 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Um 551 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,880 an incident happened um where she was a 552 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,520 victim uh that she was sexually 553 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,480 assaulted. Um it was a person that was 554 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 in the home. It was a family member. Um, 555 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 and she was really, really young. That 556 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,480 really shapes a young person. Um, and 557 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,680 when it's somebody that's living in the 558 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,080 home, that also brings a lot of fear of 559 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,240 how can I report what happened to me? 560 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,440 So, as you can see, the disclosure 561 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840 happened when she was 14 years old. Um, 562 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,240 she disclosed to law enforcement that 563 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,400 she had been sexually assaulted. Um, she 564 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,440 was interviewed at the Children's 565 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480 Justice Center. Law enforcement did 566 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,640 extensive interviewing um, to be able to 567 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280 gather evidence for this case. Case was 568 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,200 then turned over to the County 569 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,160 Attorney's Office, and it was filed when 570 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,360 she was 15 years old in 2019. 571 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,520 He was charged with five counts of rape 572 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,120 of a child and five counts of sodomy on 573 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,520 a child. 574 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,800 We went through then through the court 575 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200 process. So, that was ranging from 15 576 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,640 years old to 17 years old from 2019 to 577 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,120 2022. 578 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,120 We had 36 pre-trial hearings. We had a 579 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,600 four-day jury trial. Um, and this girl's 580 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,800 testimony will be a vivid memory in my 581 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080 life probably forever. 582 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Um, 583 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 the moment she got on that stand, 584 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,880 I think it impacted the jury instantly. 585 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,120 You could tell the fear and the the 586 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,680 anxiousness that she had to go through 587 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,080 in telling her story to these random 588 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,440 people that she doesn't know who they 589 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,640 are. She's got Jerry Rice right in front 590 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,760 of her in the courtroom. Um, it was a 591 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,000 terrifying an experience for a young, person. 592 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,040 So, at 17 years old in 2022, um, he was 593 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,680 found guilty um, of all 10 counts. He 594 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,040 was then sentenced to 50 years to life 595 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080 in the Utah State Prison. 596 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,440 He then appealed his conviction um, and 597 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,480 went through the appeals process. And 598 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,800 then, you know, he went to prison as 599 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,320 well. Um, and then at 19 years old in 600 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,680 2024, um, the appeals the Utah Court of 601 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Appeals denied that appeal. Um, now she 602 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,160 faces continuation 603 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,520 uh, with any potential uh, parole 604 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,000 hearings. She will then have an 605 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,280 opportunity to speak at the Board of 606 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,410 Pardons and Parole. 607 00:23:01,410 --> 00:23:01,720 >> [laughter] 608 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,960 >> I hope this is a helpful perspective of 609 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,080 just unfortunately one person's story 610 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,040 out of those as you can see 600 plus 611 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,560 people that we deal with on a daily 612 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,680 basis here in our community. 613 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,880 Um but I I hope this can help you just 614 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,040 know 615 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,400 um how important this work is to be able 616 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,520 to help every single one of these 617 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,600 people. 618 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,360 So, that's my report. If anybody has any 619 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:25,150 questions or anything? 620 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,080 » Thank you. 621 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,480 >> These are this is an example of one that 622 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,080 did 623 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,120 >> Go all the way. 624 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:34,560 >> They came through and was strong and and 625 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,200 uh there's a but there's a lot of fear 626 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,920 out there. The the quiet ones that we 627 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,640 I guess just don't go through that 628 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,280 process. 629 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,960 >> Absolutely. And there's a there's 630 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,000 >> There's a lot of there's a lot of pain 631 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,600 that goes with it. 632 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,920 >> lot of pain to come forward. There's a 633 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320 lot of pain to not come forward. Um and 634 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,120 we meet victims where they're at um 635 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,560 because it's still pain no matter what 636 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,120 it is. Mhm. 637 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:55,880 >> Thank you, Sarah. 638 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,696 >> Yeah, absolutely. Okay, thank you all. 639 00:23:59,706 --> 00:24:15,790 » [clears throat] and cough] 640 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,000 » Uh my name is Scott Bodily. I'm the 641 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,480 director at the 642 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Cache [snorts] Rich Children's Justice 643 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,920 Center. 644 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520 I don't have a fancy 645 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,640 um media package to put up but I've got 646 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,360 some information I wanted to be able to 647 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:28,640 provide 648 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,720 uh for everybody here. Uh just as a 649 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 matter of clarification for those who 650 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,160 are unfamiliar with the Children's 651 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Justice Center, 652 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,560 uh we are the evidence collection point 653 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,400 for a child abuse investigation 654 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,520 for 655 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 um Cache County, Rich County, and then 656 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,800 we work also cooperatively with Box 657 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,160 Elder County to provide medical 658 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320 services. Medical services 659 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,560 are provided by contract through the 660 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,680 Primary Children's Medical Center. 661 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Um 662 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,400 so they work at the CJC but they do not 663 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,280 work for the CJC. 664 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Uh specifically with the idea of 665 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,960 creating a child-friendly environment um 666 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,040 where a child abuse victim can come and 667 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000 talk about their experience 668 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,520 in a way that can be introduced into 669 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,880 court 670 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000 for a criminal investigation. 671 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,360 Um 672 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,680 wanted to talk quickly about some 673 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,120 numbers. 674 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,030 Um 675 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,120 We talk about the number of interviews 676 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:27,600 that we do. 677 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,400 Um 678 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,160 And a lot of times I last year I 679 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,240 determined that that doesn't catch 680 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,400 everything that happens at the 681 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Children's Justice Center. 682 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,880 So, for example, 683 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,520 in 2025 we had 222 interviews. 684 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,000 But I started looking at all the people 685 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,600 that come in to support that child. 686 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Um and we started tracking those numbers 687 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480 to to see who is coming in and receiving 688 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,520 services or referrals or just helping 689 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080 that. That's law enforcement. That's our 690 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 multi-disciplinary team. 691 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,360 Um we started tracking that in March of 692 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,000 last year, and by the time the year was 693 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,600 over we had had 1,848 people come 694 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280 through the Children's Justice Center. 695 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Um using that metric our metrics for 696 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,280 this year, 697 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280 um we already have 1,216 698 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,400 that have come through the Children's 699 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,480 Justice Center for 2026. Okay? 700 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,200 Uh we've seen a significant increase in 701 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,080 our caseload. 702 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Um Working cooperatively with the County 703 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000 Attorney's Office, we identified 704 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,360 a potential issue as far as 705 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,080 understanding with the turnover that law 706 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960 enforcement has experienced, that DCFS 707 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,480 has experienced in how to bring cases or 708 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,080 when it's appropriate to bring cases to 709 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 the Children's Justice Center. 710 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Um so, we did a training in January with 711 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160 our multi-disciplinary team. 712 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,880 Immediately after that training, we saw 713 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880 a huge increase in numbers. I'm not 714 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,320 going to say that the training was all 715 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,320 of it, 716 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,868 um but just as an example, 717 00:26:57,868 --> 00:26:58,520 >> [snorts] 718 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 >> in 2025, we were averaging 20 interviews 719 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,000 a month. 720 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080 So far in 2026, we're averaging 27 a 721 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,840 month. 722 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,160 Um 723 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080 in 2025, we averaged 190 people coming 724 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880 through the center. In 2026, we're 725 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,160 averaging 243 people per month 726 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,600 through the center. 727 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,310 Um 728 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600 That That all represents 729 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,240 the work that we are doing with our 730 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,040 community to be able to help 731 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,680 um attorneys prosecute cases, to help 732 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,840 our multidisciplinary team investigate 733 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,960 cases, 734 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,640 and to be able to help 735 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360 um kids heal through terrible 736 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,920 experiences. 737 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,830 Um 738 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,160 There's a lot of other numbers that we 739 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,480 could talk about, but I don't want to 740 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,440 take up all of the time, and and I know 741 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,080 that Dane has some things to present as 742 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,080 well. 743 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,600 Um so with that as a backdrop, I will 744 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680 entertain any questions 745 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,510 if uh if anybody has some. 746 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,150 » Thank you, Scott. 747 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280 » I I do have something, but we are at 748 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480 time for our public hearings. So 749 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,400 >> Um I think we can go ahead and finish this, 750 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,840 and then we'll move on to the public 751 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:29,510 hearing. Thank you. 752 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,480 » Dane Murray, Cache County Attorney. 753 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,160 And the reason um 754 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,040 I decided to present and have Scott 755 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,920 present because we're required twice a 756 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840 year to have a presentation on VOCA and 757 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040 VAWA, but I thought this that's a good 758 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,520 time to just 759 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120 update the council, the executive on 760 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,200 what our office is is working on, where 761 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 we're at for the year. And in 762 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400 June just so happens to coincide with 763 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,120 our our number tracking cycle ending for 764 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,040 the previous year. That's kind of an 765 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240 archaic um 766 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,640 goes back to the how we had rotated um 767 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,240 our special victims prosecutors in the 768 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,800 past on the 3-year cycle. So, we've 769 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640 tracked cases on a 3-year cycle. We had 770 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680 grant reporting that was that was due at 771 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280 the end of June. And so, that's where 772 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,160 we've tracked. So, from June 1st of each 773 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,920 year to the next year on May 31st. And 774 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,360 so, um 775 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,800 up here we can you can see the the total 776 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120 number of cases for 3-year periods 777 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560 beginning in 2014 and the average number 778 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,360 of cases per year. 779 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Um 780 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,560 And then you see what we had for that 781 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,280 same period in just 1 year in 2025-2026. 782 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440 So, we had 643 cases, which is 783 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,440 um 784 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,480 our our 3-year average from 2022 to 2025 785 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,960 was 410. Last year we were about um 530. 786 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200 So, we had a a little more than 100 787 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,040 additional cases year over year. 788 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,960 Um but over our 3-year average, we're almost at half in 789 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:00,560 um 790 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,040 more than half in 1 year of what our 791 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720 3-year average our 3-year total was. 792 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,320 Um I think that 793 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,840 I I guess that there's some good news in 794 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,600 this. Our total number of cases 795 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 submitted by law enforcement went down 796 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,960 um a pretty significant amount from 300 797 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,840 3,029 798 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,840 in 2024 to 2025 to 200 2,000 799 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,600 659. 800 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Um so, there is a de- decrease there, 801 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080 but there's an increase in our special 802 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200 victims cases. Um and that that includes 803 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840 what's what's part of VAWA, but also 804 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000 includes our internet crimes against 805 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600 children. It includes our sex offender 806 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,760 registry violations, elder abuse, um 807 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,680 all all of those other person crimes 808 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520 that we categorize as special victims. 809 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Um 810 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,720 And so, 811 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,760 I I 812 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Before I move on to to this um 813 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,280 this next thing that we're working on, I 814 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,960 just wanted to address the question that 815 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,200 the the co-chair asked. I think one of 816 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,680 the the reasons you're seeing our 817 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880 investigators numbers go up is because 818 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 we have that resource and law 819 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560 enforcement, when we're receiving that 820 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,480 many cases, it means law enforcement's 821 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,000 receiving that many and having to 822 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,960 investigate prior to sending for 823 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,440 prosecution. 824 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,000 And you hear from our local agencies, 825 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,880 from their their victim special victims 826 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160 investigators, and they are carrying 827 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320 case loads that are about at their the 828 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120 maximum that a investigator can handle. 829 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Um you talk to guys that were working 15 830 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,680 years ago who are now supervisors and 831 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 just saying that was everyone is at the 832 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,800 maximum I ever had, and that's just how 833 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160 they're living their lives. And 834 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480 um when you get to that point, you're 835 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Luckily, the county attorney's office 836 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,600 has those 837 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,000 VAWA investigators that's able to to 838 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,600 assist. And I think that's what we're seeing is our year-over-year case 839 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,880 loads went up, and we've had a lot of 840 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,400 turnover in law enforcement. Um there's 841 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,440 a lot of younger investigators, and so 842 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,880 we have two really experienced 843 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,360 investigators in-house who are able to 844 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,800 help be a force multiplier for our local 845 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,920 law enforcement agencies. And I I think 846 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,000 that's a a really good benefit that 847 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280 we're able to to fund through the VAWA 848 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,360 grant to have those resources for all of our agencies, cuz that's that's 849 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200 something that touches every single 850 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,520 citizen here potentially. 851 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Um 852 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760 they work with every agency in the 853 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,440 county, from the sheriff's office to 854 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,480 North Park and 855 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Smithfield and Logan City. 856 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,280 Um 857 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,720 And then I just wanted to to give an 858 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,120 update um 859 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,880 on on something that 860 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360 our office is working on with CAPSA and 861 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,240 our local law enforcement. Um we have 862 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,800 what's called the domestic violence 863 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,600 response team in in Cache Valley and 864 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,400 it's a multi-disciplinary team made up 865 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440 of law enforcement, prosecution, victim 866 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,920 services, and our community-based 867 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,520 organizations. We meet monthly um, 868 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,120 and and work on those relationships and 869 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 how we respond to domestic violence. 870 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000 For the last year, um, 871 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Michaela Hansey from from CAPSA and 872 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720 myself have been working on implementing 873 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,960 what's called a domestic violence 874 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160 high-risk team. That's become the 875 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160 national standard for responding to 876 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280 domestic violence and it's it's an 877 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,920 evidence-based 878 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,960 um, 879 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960 program developed by the the Geiger 880 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,320 Institute, which is a a national 881 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,880 nationally recognized organization that started as a domestic violence 882 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,560 shelter similar to CAPSA and it expanded 883 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,480 into research and 884 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,080 um, 885 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680 it's to identify the most dangerous 886 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,360 cases of intimate partner violence in a 887 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,880 community and then come up with a 888 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,800 coordinated response. 889 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Um, 890 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,840 and 891 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800 it's it's been shown by research um, 892 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,720 that domestic violence homicides, not 893 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,800 all of them, but a very good portion of 894 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840 them are predictable and preventable 895 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440 using lethality assessment. Um, 896 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,320 in Utah we have we use what's called the 897 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160 LAP. It's the um, 898 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,840 just a lethality assessment protocol. 899 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Um, 900 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Cache County has going back many years 901 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,520 because of the work CAPSA's done and 902 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,880 because of the buy-in from our law 903 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,880 enforcement agencies, we've been using 904 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200 that here. Um, just recently it was 905 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,080 mandated by the state that all law 906 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120 enforcement agencies in the state use 907 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,280 that. But that's something that we've 908 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,919 been on the forefront of long prior to 909 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,600 being mandated. 910 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520 So, we're we're working on on 911 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,960 implementing this. There's going to be 912 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,480 some memorandums of understanding 913 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,879 between the different agencies and 914 00:34:19,879 --> 00:34:22,760 CAPSA. We're going to use those 915 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,399 um, lethality assessments to identify 916 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:26,360 which cases of intimate partner violence 917 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,840 that are coming to law enforcement have 918 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,679 the most potential for lethality in the 919 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,520 future and then use the resources we 920 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120 have between our our different agencies 921 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,200 and our community organizations to help 922 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,879 get resources to those victims to try to 923 00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,919 facilitate 924 00:34:44,919 --> 00:34:46,679 better cooperation 925 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,159 because a lot of times it's just not 926 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,080 knowing what's out there for help to get 927 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000 out of those situations 928 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,600 to help identify further investigation 929 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,640 and to help inform both the prosecutor 930 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,400 and people other people in the court 931 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,800 process of the danger this individual 932 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,880 poses to the public and so that's 933 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,680 something we're working on hopefully 934 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,240 within the next few months we'll we'll 935 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,000 we've had meetings we have a MOU that's 936 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,600 almost ready to to go out to the 937 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,120 different agencies for their their 938 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,280 review but I I really think that's going 939 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520 to be a have a big impact on how we 940 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,760 respond to domestic violence in the 941 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360 community and I I think it's a testament 942 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,920 to the relationships that we have um 943 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,480 just today we had the northern Utah 944 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,360 conference to end violence which is 945 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,080 co-sponsored by Utah State University 946 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,920 and CAPSA and that was a really great 947 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,800 opportunity to see all those different 948 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,520 groups come together 949 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Sarah and I had an opportunity to speak 950 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 on the uh 951 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120 a panel at the end with 952 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Jill Anderson who's the CEO of CAPSA 953 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,480 with 954 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,440 Assistant Chief Houli and with the head 955 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,960 of New Hope who does the the sexual 956 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040 assault nurse exams in in Cache County 957 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,040 now 958 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,400 and we were able to talk about the the 959 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,880 relationships that have been built over 960 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,880 years here and how that's benefiting 961 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680 victims in our community and and really 962 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,280 that benefits our entire community 963 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,320 because at any given time someone could 964 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,440 end up 965 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,080 this this doesn't um 966 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,560 just limit itself to certain groups of 967 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640 individuals anyone could end up being a 968 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,080 victim or knowing someone who's been 969 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,880 victimized and needs the help of CAPSA 970 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,520 or needs the help of law enforcement or 971 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,440 the county attorney's office, or any of 972 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,120 those other organizations. And I I think 973 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,440 we all should be proud that our 974 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,880 community has come together over the 975 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,040 years and built such a effective um 976 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,390 program here in the valley. 977 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Any questions for me about our 978 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920 department in general? 979 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640 >> I uh 980 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,000 as the 981 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560 it was alluded that as the deep possible 982 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,960 decrease in federal funding 983 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,000 >> [clears throat] 984 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,200 >> how are we going to make that up to be 985 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,720 able to keep up with 986 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:56,400 uh 987 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160 this case? 988 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560 >> And I I I hope that we don't lose that 989 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,880 federal funding, but I think that's the 990 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,760 reality that that we're in and there's 991 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,560 going to have to be 992 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,360 tough decisions to be made, whether it's 993 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,560 what what level of service can we 994 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040 continue offering the public or 995 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,800 um 996 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640 it it 997 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,840 Yeah, I think that's that's something 998 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,440 that's going to all throughout the 999 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,280 country um that's it's been a real 1000 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,280 benefit to have some of those federal 1001 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640 grants to help victim services and 1002 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640 prosecution, cuz those are 1003 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,160 um and law enforcement, law enforcement 1004 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,920 agencies also receive those funds. And 1005 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,080 so, as those federal funds dry up, it's 1006 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600 it really pushes burdens back onto the 1007 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,040 communities. 1008 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,880 Um 1009 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840 I I I hope that they don't es- 1010 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120 especially I'll I'll speak to VOCA 1011 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040 specifically, the funds are victim 1012 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,160 services. That that's one that I really 1013 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,360 hate to see dry up because it's not 1014 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,760 coming from taxpayer dollars, it's 1015 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,880 coming from fines from 1016 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,760 federal defendants and from seizures. 1017 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,440 And so, that that's one that it it just 1018 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:03,960 really is unfortunate that that's drying up and it's just the nature of how sentences and things 1019 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680 are going these days. 1020 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520 But, but those those are going to be 1021 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,920 tough dis- discussions that are going to 1022 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,520 have to be had because that's the reality. You look at 1023 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,160 statewide, our 1024 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,680 domestic violence numbers across the 1025 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200 state have been increasing consistently 1026 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,880 at about a 3% rate um 1027 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,760 on top of just the natural gain from 1028 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160 population growth and Cache Valley 1029 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,790 hasn't been immune to that. 1030 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,000 » I appreciate you bringing that 1031 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,920 information up right now that we can 1032 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,720 keep talking about it. 1033 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,720 >> And that's something that 1034 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,120 unfortunately with how the federal 1035 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200 fiscal years line up and where the state 1036 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,840 lines up, it puts the county in tough 1037 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,040 position sometimes to not know what 1038 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,760 we're we're going to have as far as 1039 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,760 funding until partway through a year. 1040 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,110 >> Yeah. 1041 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,280 Anything 1042 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,600 additional for the attorney? 1043 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,480 Thank you. Thank you for all the 1044 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680 departments that spoke today for 1045 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120 all you do to bring justice and advocate 1046 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,440 for the victims that we have here in our 1047 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,800 community. 1048 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,120 Thank you very much. 1049 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,880 Heavy stuff that you would deal with. 1050 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,000 Um 1051 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,160 We're past the hour for the 1052 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,840 um 1053 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,640 public hearing, so we'll move on to the 1054 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,920 item number seven 1055 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,040 on our agenda and that is the public 1056 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520 hearings that we have for uh 1057 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,040 three different public hearings. We'll 1058 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640 start with the Wellsville safe storage 1059 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,400 two rezone. 1060 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,350 We'll get some background. 1061 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,080 Thank you. 1062 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,040 Brian. 1063 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,040 >> Good evening. 1064 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,240 Brian Abbott with Development Services. 1065 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,960 Uh tonight we've got the Wellsville safe 1066 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,680 storage rezone. 1067 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,920 Um 1068 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,840 This is located off Highway 89 91. 1069 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000 Sorry, next one. 1070 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Um it's north of the American West 1071 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,280 Heritage Center, east of two Cache 1072 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,200 County owned parcels 1073 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480 meant for future outdoor recreation use. 1074 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,360 It's in a view corridor identified by 1075 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,320 COG SAC. The south is the Wellsville 1076 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,240 city boundary, but the is off of the 1077 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,520 county road. 1078 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,320 As you can see on this map here, the 1079 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,840 yellow represents agricultural A10. 1080 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,080 That's the vast majority of the 1081 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,000 surrounding property. 1082 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,440 There's a little square of purple and 1083 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,240 that's an industrial zone near Hyrum 1084 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,440 JBS. That was rezoned in 2018. 1085 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560 There's just a sliver of red on that 1086 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,200 end there. 1087 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,560 That's some commercial storage units 1088 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,720 near 1089 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,680 Nibley and then all of the green lines 1090 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,840 represent a future annexation area for 1091 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,760 Wellsville, Nibley, and Hyrum. 1092 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680 Just a brief overview, this rezone 1093 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,040 request is for 8 acres. 1094 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,320 This came up for a rezone request 1095 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,830 in the industrial zone. That was denied. 1096 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,600 The planning commission recommended 1097 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,080 denial 4-2 and the county council denied 1098 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 it 5-1. That was on March 24th. 1099 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,600 The current request to rezone to the is 1100 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,040 for a commercial zone. This would allow 1101 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,640 for commercial business, commercial 1102 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,960 kennel and animal shelter, self-service 1103 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,800 storage facilities, 1104 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,840 general vehicle repair, recreation 1105 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920 facility, campground, 1106 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000 medical services and facilities, and 1107 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,240 additional uses. 1108 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,840 This came before planning commission May 1109 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,600 21st of this year. Planning commission 1110 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440 recommended denial of the rezone to the 1111 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,680 county council on a 5-2 vote. 1112 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,760 Public comments received against the 1113 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000 proposed rezone were received by Utah 1114 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,040 State University and the American West 1115 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,080 Heritage Center. 1116 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,320 Some conclusions is that the commercial 1117 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,240 uses are not consistent with surrounding 1118 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,400 land uses, which are agriculture. 1119 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,800 And the nearest commercial zone is 1.74 1120 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,080 miles to the southeast. 1121 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,510 Any questions for me on this? 1122 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160 » After the public hearing is closed. 1123 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,870 >> Thank you. 1124 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,280 Okay, we will now open the public 1125 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,520 hearing for ordinance 2026 - Thursday 30 1126 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,440 Wellsville Safe Storage to rezone. 1127 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,360 Um 1128 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,040 we will keep the comments to 2 minutes. 1129 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,920 Andrew um will have 1130 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,520 uh 1131 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,360 running stopwatch there and I we ask 1132 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,360 that 1133 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,120 uh you bring 1134 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,960 new uh comments if if something you were 1135 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,800 going to say has already been stated 1136 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,080 um 1137 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,160 just bring new comments with with each 1138 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,160 comment, please, and be civil in your 1139 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,640 comments, please. 1140 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,640 And and it is now open and come and 1141 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,600 state your name and your address at the 1142 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:51,760 microphone. 1143 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,120 Or city you live in. 1144 00:42:53,120 --> 00:43:05,310 excuse me. 1145 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440 » Uh Travis Baldwin. 1146 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,440 Um 1147 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,640 you want my address, too? 1148 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,760 >> Just the city you live in. 1149 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,440 >> Paradise. 1150 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,920 >> Thanks. 1151 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,320 >> Um 1152 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840 I did send some emails. I don't know if 1153 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,320 you guys forwarded them to the county 1154 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,880 council. I sent them to Connor 1155 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,830 yesterday. 1156 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,440 Um I had some AI models mock-ups that 1157 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,720 you guys could see how we could I know 1158 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,400 one of the big things is this FedEx 1159 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,160 going along there. Um we did some berms 1160 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040 with some bushes on top so you could 1161 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600 hide them aesthetically. Um you could 1162 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920 put some river rock in there with the 1163 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920 berm and then put some trees on it so 1164 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,480 that way you can 1165 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,400 uh match that surrounding landscape and 1166 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,680 then we can color the storage units a 1167 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,680 light brown or whatever 1168 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,240 um or a cream color to match the wheat 1169 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,240 fields or the alfalfa fields. We could 1170 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,080 do green and light green um to match 1171 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080 those surrounding areas. 1172 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,320 Um again, we're we're good neighbors. 1173 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,480 We've 1174 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,670 um 1175 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,920 we're We're there to to put a big 1176 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,360 um eyesore 1177 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,600 uh coming into Cache Valley. We'd like 1178 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,480 it aesthetic 1179 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,160 for the last 15 years I've donated to 1180 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,600 the American West Heritage Center of my 1181 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,600 business has. That's something we plan 1182 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,600 on doing and supporting and helping them out. 1183 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,200 Um 1184 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,320 and I did not bring any of those 1185 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,200 pictures, but I am sorry. I sent them to 1186 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,720 Connor. He said he'd forward them to you 1187 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,880 guys. 1188 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600 Did you guys get them? 1189 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960 >> That is at the start of the year. 1190 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,480 >> Yeah, we got them in the packet. We did. 1191 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,680 receive the pictures. 1192 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,920 >> Okay. As I I gave you guys three of them 1193 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,480 so you guys could look. 1194 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,920 >> They were received 6 6 9 of 2026 is when 1195 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,320 they were received I guess for us. 1196 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:48,640 >> Okay. 1197 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,200 >> Sent to us. 1198 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,840 So it's yeah, it's in the packet. 1199 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,360 >> Okay. But it has one has a berm, one 1200 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,600 just has some large trees. I mean, I had 1201 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,320 bushes out in Paradise, some shrubs that 1202 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,520 were 10 ft tall that you couldn't see in 1203 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,120 my backyard. So that's why I said, 1204 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,280 there's different things we can do to 1205 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,040 help alleviate and 1206 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,320 uh do that. The other thing is I know 1207 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,520 you guys didn't want it in the 1208 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,280 industrial zone and so we came back in 1209 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,720 the commercial and that was some of your 1210 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:16,320 guys's biggest um 1211 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,440 hold-ups against it. So 1212 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920 we came back with the commercial. 1213 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:28,310 Do you guys have any questions for me? 1214 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,680 Okay. 1215 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:41,190 Thank you guys. 1216 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920 » Margaret Bosworth and I'm part owner of 1217 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,760 the Christensen 8 acres, myself and my 1218 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,840 brother. 1219 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,080 And I do appreciate [clears throat] you 1220 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,040 letting us come back and and talk to you 1221 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,520 again. And just in the meetings that 1222 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,800 I've been to and that 1223 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,280 in the last meeting there was a 1224 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,200 gentleman from the American West says 1225 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080 that it was never approached 1226 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,920 to buy it. And I mean if if that's what 1227 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,000 he if that's what he found, that's fine. 1228 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160 They've never approached us on buying it 1229 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,240 when they did buy the the two prior 1230 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,000 uh west pieces that uh borders ours. At 1231 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,720 that time, Utah State, as far as I know 1232 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:19,800 talking to my brother, have not 1233 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,640 approached him on buying it. 1234 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,200 And it really wouldn't be any difference 1235 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,240 if either one of them did. 1236 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,600 We would want We would want to know what 1237 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,800 would go on that property as we are 1238 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,840 concerned just what it looks like, what 1239 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,120 it benefits, and the looks of it that we 1240 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,080 would want it to be nice depending on 1241 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,920 who whoever bought it. Uh 1242 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,080 the only thing my big concern is I think 1243 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,240 you need to really consider property 1244 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,400 right owners right property owners 1245 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,600 rights. 1246 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,440 And when you are a land owner, I mean, I 1247 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,480 know I mean, I love Wellsville and and 1248 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,360 everything, too, and coming into the 1249 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,640 valley and everything, also. 1250 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,360 But I think you need to look at property 1251 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,680 right owners the rights and uh lost 1252 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,880 revenue for our family in what we want 1253 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,040 to do with that piece of ground, whether 1254 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,080 now or down the road. 1255 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,360 And I guess that's all I've got to say. 1256 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,510 Is there any questions for me? 1257 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,160 » Thank you. 1258 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:32,790 >> Okay. 1259 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,522 » Move to close the public hearing. 1260 00:47:34,522 --> 00:47:35,080 >> [cough] 1261 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,440 >> Second. 1262 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,960 >> Unless there's others. 1263 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,760 >> Can I just say something really quick? 1264 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,720 >> Uh yes. 1265 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:46,230 Follow protocol. Thank you. 1266 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,360 » My name is Deborah Van Noy, and I just 1267 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:57,240 wanted to comment on the topic of these smaller parcels of land. There would be an opportunity for 1268 00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,720 generating 1269 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,280 uh very attractive revenue for these 1270 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600 property owners by considering 1271 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,360 protecting the land 1272 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,080 with a conservation easement because it 1273 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,800 is part of the gateway into Cache 1274 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,960 Valley. 1275 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,720 And I don't know if these owners have 1276 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,680 thought about that as an option, but it 1277 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,760 certainly is a valuable one. I know that 1278 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,480 these acreages are in the 8 to 10 acre 1279 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,760 level, not large, but because they are 1280 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,560 in that view corridor, they would be 1281 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560 very valuable. I just wanted to add that 1282 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,320 comment. 1283 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:36,270 >> Thank you. 1284 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,400 » Mike Baldwin, I'm from Wellsville. There 1285 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,200 I just live a couple miles from that spot. 1286 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,440 And 1287 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,560 yeah, I we did put it 1288 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,280 back to you guys. I appreciate you re- 1289 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,360 taking another look at this. 1290 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,560 And I do appreciate the the open space 1291 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,480 and I've worked with some conservation 1292 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,440 easements in the past with my father's 1293 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,520 land. 1294 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,200 And it it has worked out. 1295 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,080 But this is a smaller one. The amount of 1296 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,240 revenue you can generate with that is 1297 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:05,520 limited 1298 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,040 compared to what 1299 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,480 you can do for 1300 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,920 the Bosworth and Christensen family. 1301 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,200 They're the ones that came to us cuz we 1302 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,200 had another project that's that they 1303 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,440 were working on, their their son. 1304 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,320 And said, "Hey, we'd love to have that 1305 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,880 on our property here." I said, "Let's 1306 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,560 let's take a look and see if we can make 1307 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,720 this work for you." So, that's how it 1308 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,120 came together. 1309 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640 For me, it's just and residents of 1310 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,080 Wellsville, just like me, 1311 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,240 that are around there, there's nowhere 1312 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:38,480 to go that isn't already full near us. 1313 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,240 We went through the planning and zoning 1314 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,360 and again, 1315 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,000 the gentleman that we might compete with 1316 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000 out in Mendon on that corridor coming 1317 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,000 in, this is another open space corridor 1318 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,800 coming in on the west side of the valley 1319 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,520 Uh, 1320 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,680 has storage sheds Again, voted and 1321 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,240 didn't recuse himself of that, either. 1322 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,040 Uh, which was unfortunate, uh, where 1323 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,240 it's a conflict of interest on that. So, 1324 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,120 uh, but they did speak out, several of 1325 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,880 them, uh, about the property rights, uh, 1326 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,560 on the planning zoning commission, as 1327 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,720 well, that voted for it. 1328 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,800 So, that that's, uh, 1329 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,720 something to consider, uh, 1330 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,200 the her family has is being able to, uh, 1331 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,440 generate that income. They have a farm 1332 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,640 down below there. This is a piece that 1333 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,720 they can't farm without leasing it out 1334 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,600 to somebody else to try to do that. So, 1335 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,520 it limits the income uh, they can get 1336 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,680 just just off the leasing rights, not 1337 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,280 generating it with their own. So, 1338 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,520 any questions? 1339 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,760 >> So, I have a question. So, you're the 1340 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,640 developer. 1341 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,360 You're not the owner of the property, 1342 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,760 right? She's the owner, and you're the 1343 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,160 developer, right? 1344 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,520 >> Yes, I'm they they came to us, and we 1345 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,640 had a project there 1346 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,600 and where I was in Wellsville, as well, 1347 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,200 and have another business in Wellsville, 1348 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,800 uh, there that, uh, we just built. She wanted some help in in being able to 1349 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,040 put something together where they didn't 1350 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,480 know how to do it on their own. And so, 1351 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,880 that's why we said, instead of us just 1352 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,400 buying the piece from you, let's invest 1353 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,560 together, uh, on that, so it doesn't 1354 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,880 just 1355 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,560 you know, profit me or another partner 1356 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,880 that it that it helps their their 1357 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,080 family, as well, long term. And that's a 1358 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,840 fit that worked for them. 1359 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,640 >> Thank you. 1360 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:34,070 >> You're welcome. 1361 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,720 » Move to close the public hearing. 1362 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:36,280 >> Second. 1363 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,000 >> I'll second. 1364 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000 >> Is there's others? 1365 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,200 >> Any further discussion? No? All those in 1366 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,960 favor say aye. 1367 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,680 >> Aye. 1368 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,880 Okay, moving on to 1369 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,720 the ordinance 2026-31, 1370 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,240 Richmond City Creek Rezone. 1371 00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:54,880 » [clears throat] 1372 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,400 >> All right. So, the Richmond City Creek 1373 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,760 Rezone 1374 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,680 is just south of Richmond on Highway 91, 1375 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,040 uh 9000 North. It's current use right now is 1376 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,920 agriculture, and all of the surrounding 1377 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,800 areas are agriculture with a few houses 1378 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480 uh located around there. 1379 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,440 A brief overview, this rezone request is 1380 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,880 for 7.58 acres on two parcels 1381 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,280 from agriculture to industrial. 1382 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,440 The nearest industrial zone is uh the is 1383 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,840 to the north 1384 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,920 uh 0.38 acres. Uh it was Lower Foods 1385 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,840 that rezone 1386 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,880 um was approved uh earlier this year. 1387 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,320 The industrial zone would allow for 1388 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,240 storage and warehousing, self-storage 1389 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,400 facilities, transport services, general 1390 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640 vehicle repair, crematorium, and and 1391 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,160 some other uses. 1392 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,720 This came before the planning commission 1393 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,520 also on May 21st of this year. Planning 1394 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,080 commission recommended approval of the 1395 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,240 rezone to the county council 7 to 0. 1396 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,840 Their conclusions, the property is 1397 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,320 consistent with the industrial zone. 1398 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,760 The nearest parcel zoned industrial is 1399 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,880 just north of the subject property. 1400 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,560 Richmond City provided comment that they 1401 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,560 have no issues with this rezone. 1402 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800 >> Thank you, Brian. And 1403 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,000 same guidelines as the previous 1404 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,320 public hearing. 1405 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,280 Please step to the podium and state your 1406 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,200 name and and the city you reside and 1407 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,640 keep your comments to about 2 minutes, 1408 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:32,630 please. 1409 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,560 » Hello, I'm Judson Eads. Um I'm the one 1410 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,920 that's 1411 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560 uh under contract to buy that if it can 1412 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,120 be rezoned, and 1413 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,120 I probably need to be coached cuz I've 1414 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,920 never done this before, so I don't know 1415 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,280 if there's questions or anything I 1416 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,360 should be 1417 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,000 uh telling you that I haven't thought of 1418 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,640 or go if you got any recommendations 1419 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,880 ready to or questions you might have, 1420 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,750 let me know. 1421 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,920 » I've heard it, so I'm good, so. 1422 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,920 >> I was in the planning and zoning 1423 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,720 >> Public hearing goes, no no questions. 1424 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:01,640 Public hearing, so. 1425 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,760 >> Yeah. 1426 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,240 I 1427 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:05,720 >> Not not a data center. 1428 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:06,760 >> Not a data center. 1429 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,920 >> say what I want to do with not a data 1430 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,040 center. 1431 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,360 >> Ah. 1432 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,000 I I don't know. I don't have any 1433 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,160 questions. 1434 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,280 >> You have questions of what to do with 1435 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,160 it, but I 1436 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,240 Is that something I should answer? 1437 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,240 >> You can. 1438 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:18,400 >> do with it? 1439 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,680 >> Uh I own Adrenaline Industries, and we 1440 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,880 build um expedition trucks, which are 1441 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,200 like off-road motor homes. 1442 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,390 >> Cool. 1443 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,120 Any other questions for proponent? 1444 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,400 >> No, I've got some for Brian, but 1445 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,640 >> Okay. 1446 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:33,920 >> Good. 1447 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:41,030 >> All right, thanks. 1448 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,950 Any other public comment? 1449 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,920 » Move to close the public hearing. 1450 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,840 >> Second. 1451 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,360 >> All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 1452 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,520 >> Aye. 1453 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,680 >> Okay, moving on to resolution 2026-17, 1454 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,520 opening and amending the Cache County 1455 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,520 2026 budget, 1456 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,360 third amendment. 1457 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:07,550 Mr. Funk. 1458 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,800 » Matthew Funk, Cache County auditor. 1459 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,160 This um 1460 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,080 budget opening is for the second 1461 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,160 quarter. We have um 1462 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,480 each quarter. Um this budget amendment 1463 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,240 would allow us to uh proceed with uh 1464 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:24,000 booking about a million dollars of 1465 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000 revenue. Most of that would be inner or 1466 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,840 inner governmental revenue or the grants 1467 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,240 and what have you. 1468 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:33,200 Um expenditures uh in this opening would 1469 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,800 be 6.3 million dollars. 1470 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,320 At least 4 million of that uh would be funded by wraps. 1471 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,480 So, 1472 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,600 um 1473 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,920 and would uh adjust fund balances down 1474 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,200 by 5.2 million. Again, that's mostly 1475 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,640 wraps. It would actually increase the 1476 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,720 fund balance in the general fund by 1477 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:53,240 177,000 1478 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:55,440 dollars. 1479 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:01,670 >> Thank you. 1480 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,760 Any uh public comment concerning the 1481 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,560 resolution 2026-17? 1482 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,270 Um following the same protocol, we know. 1483 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,840 Okay, seeing there is none. 1484 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,120 >> Move to close public hearing. 1485 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,640 >> Second. 1486 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,720 >> All those in favor say aye. 1487 00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:18,800 >> Aye. 1488 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,440 >> Okay. Thank you. 1489 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,960 Um item number eight, we'll move on to 1490 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,640 initial proposals for consideration of 1491 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,880 action. And 8A is ordinance 2026-30 1492 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,280 Wells Bell Safe Storage 2 rezone. And 1493 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,720 Brian, if we could have you I think 1494 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,440 there's there's some additional 1495 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:49,030 questions for you, if you don't mind. 1496 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:58,390 Sorry, trying to pull it up. 1497 00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,560 » The road 1498 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,520 that passes this 1499 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,000 it is a minor 1500 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,480 local road. 1501 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,000 >> Yeah. 1502 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000 >> And the the county owns that right now. 1503 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,680 >> And industrial and commercial are not 1504 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,880 allowed? 1505 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,640 >> Uh 1506 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,040 I have one of their conditions, if 1507 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:17,230 approved, would be to upgrade that road. 1508 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,960 » At the cost That'd be their cost. 1509 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:28,870 >> Developer's cost, yes. 1510 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,360 » What's the distance to the The from the 1511 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600 highway to there. 1512 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,360 Uh access. 1513 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,280 >> It's the very first parcel right as you 1514 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,280 turn. So. 1515 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,040 Not very far at all. 1516 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,840 >> But there is no they have no frontage 1517 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,360 themselves to 1518 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,560 US 89, right? 1519 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,160 >> Correct. 1520 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,800 >> But they have to improve it the entire 1521 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,960 length of the property? 1522 00:57:49,960 --> 00:58:03,950 >> Of their property. 1523 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,400 » Uh there's quite a 1524 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,240 there is quite a distance between there 1525 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,880 and other commercial properties. 1526 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,360 I know it's the uh 1527 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,280 >> Um in the county, yeah. About a 1528 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,280 just under 2 mi to the next one. 1529 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,400 >> 1.67. 1530 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,030 >> Yeah. 1531 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,800 » And those those prop all those 1532 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,600 properties 1533 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,960 do they have frontage to US 89 that are 1534 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,480 zoned commercial? 1535 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,000 >> Um 1536 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:39,510 I don't think they're on the US 89. 1537 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,320 » But that one they 1538 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,880 >> understand your question correctly. 1539 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000 >> No, all the other commercial properties 1540 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,240 that are in that area there that are do 1541 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,640 they have frontage to US 89? 1542 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,480 That are 1543 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,160 within that 1.67 mi? 1544 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,120 >> I I feel I don't know if I should speak. 1545 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,160 I think some of the ones they they turn 1546 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,800 off of the road and kind of have 1547 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,400 frontage roads of their own to them. 1548 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,080 >> Come back, yeah. 1549 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,520 >> The the one I'm thinking about, that's 1550 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,880 what they do. 1551 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,040 >> Are there any in Wellsville city limits? 1552 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,320 >> Yeah, pallets of I don't know what their 1553 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,600 name is. There's a pallet company that 1554 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,800 just got put in. That's the one that 1555 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:14,960 kind of 1556 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,640 >> That's the big one. 1557 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,200 >> comes in and and then kind of has their 1558 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,960 own frontage 1559 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960 >> And that's in that's incorporated? 1560 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,560 >> Yeah. 1561 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,400 >> And how how far away is that? 1562 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,320 >> It's close. 1563 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,280 >> Just cross the highway? 1564 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,080 >> Yep. About, yeah. 1565 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,720 >> And that's Is that industrial or is that 1566 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,840 commercial in there? 1567 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,320 So it's different. They're They have 1568 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,800 different zoning. Okay. It's pretty big. 1569 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,320 >> Has there been any reported safety 1570 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,400 issues? I know with 1571 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240 the I know when there's events that come 1572 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480 out of and utilize that road to get out 1573 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,880 of the events that are at the American 1574 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,800 West 1575 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,920 Heritage. 1576 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,480 Uh 1577 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000 it's quite a safety concern. There's a 1578 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,120 lot of them that refuse to turn left 1579 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,800 there. 1580 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,880 >> Yeah, they make most people turn right 1581 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,160 and then they go down the road a ways 1582 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,611 and do a U-turn. 1583 00:59:58,611 --> 00:59:59,800 >> [laughter] 1584 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,720 >> I've seen that quite happen quite a bit 1585 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:02,440 and 1586 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,400 >> Hopefully they go to the light. 1587 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,280 How far is it to the light? 1588 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,590 2 miles? 1589 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,120 I don't know. Everyone goes so fast, 1590 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,200 it's all relative. I mean other people 1591 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,040 do, not me. 1592 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,600 >> If you're walking, it's a long ways. If 1593 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,960 you're driving, it's just a little ways. 1594 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:27,070 >> Yeah. 1595 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,080 And And I should have asked you while 1596 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,920 you were up here, did you try to 1597 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,040 incorporate into Wellsville where you 1598 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,600 are adjacent to Wellsville? 1599 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,280 >> We have not yet. 1600 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,400 >> Okay. 1601 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,240 Cuz it is adjacent to Wellsville City, 1602 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,320 correct? 1603 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,510 >> Correct. 1604 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,480 Uh 1605 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,200 We were within the county, we 1606 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,920 >> Just wanted to 1607 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,390 Okay. 1608 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,400 » But what's the distance between that 1609 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,760 property and Wellsville City though? 1610 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,480 >> The next 1611 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,840 >> It's right against the across the 1612 01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,720 street. 1613 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,200 >> American West Heritage Center is in 1614 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,110 Wellsville City. 1615 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,920 » Oh, across the small road. The front of 1616 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,920 Oh, across the little road. Not the high 1617 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,640 Not the highway. 1618 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,240 >> Yeah, and then across the highway. 1619 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,840 Anything south Like you said, you can 1620 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,280 see it up there. That's Wellsville City. 1621 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,720 >> Oh, yeah. Okay. 1622 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,120 >> Just right across the street. 1623 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:18,680 >> Got you. 1624 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,000 >> We do not have frontage on 8991. 1625 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,760 Um 1626 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,120 but you can buy it. 1627 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,880 We have to go back 1628 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,000 >> off on that, whatever that road is 1629 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:29,440 called. 1630 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,800 >> Yeah, we don't have frontage on anything 1631 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,600 now. 1632 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,560 >> Okay. 1633 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,520 >> So, the entryway would be on that minor 1634 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,440 road. And as you pointed out, it wasn't 1635 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,560 It is a minor road, but 1636 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,080 it did take on 8 to 10,000 people 1637 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,120 in the last month. 1638 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,440 That's the minor road there. So, 1639 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,160 arguably the minor road is 1640 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,240 definitely 1641 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,560 the most traveled minor road in the 1642 01:01:51,560 --> 01:02:02,790 county. 1643 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,160 » I guess I'll I'll state my concern 1644 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,920 previously when we reviewed this. 1645 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,360 I didn't think that industrial would be 1646 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,920 the proper zoning 1647 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,920 for this. And And so, I think bringing 1648 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,320 it in with a commercial application for 1649 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,640 zoning 1650 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,000 um 1651 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,120 is is more appropriate. Um I I ideally 1652 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,080 would love to see it be in a gateway and 1653 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,440 to be open space, but also 1654 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,880 we deal with willing landowners. And 1655 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,120 that's right in what we state with our 1656 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,880 COZAC and and other things. And And that 1657 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,760 means that it has to be something that 1658 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,160 they would 1659 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,000 propose themselves 1660 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,120 and not be compelled to do. And so, 1661 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,400 believing in their right to develop 1662 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,720 their property 1663 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,560 um 1664 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,840 I I don't see why I how I would deny 1665 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:59,670 this. 1666 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,160 » I kind of like the idea that they did 1667 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,520 switch from industrial to commercial. 1668 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,240 And they're so close to commercial in 1669 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,120 Wellsville City, too. 1670 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,080 That 1671 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,720 makes it a lot better to me cuz I think 1672 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:23,160 I know probably America West Heritage is that zoned agriculture? 1673 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,280 Or 1674 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,760 But it's very commercial. 1675 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,840 Even if it is agriculture. 1676 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,800 >> out of the year it is, huh? 1677 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,520 >> Yeah. 1678 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,160 Well, they do it 1679 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,640 they have a year round program. 1680 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:40,150 >> They do. They do. 1681 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,760 » It just seems so 1682 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,400 It really does seem so different right 1683 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,040 in the middle of all that agriculture 1684 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,440 area. 1685 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,640 Uh 1686 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,000 I I know it would have an effect 1687 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,840 you know, no matter how 1688 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,560 much you tried to hide it. It would 1689 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,160 stand out 1690 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,360 in uh 1691 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,240 just 1692 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,080 you know, just appro- approaching that 1693 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,760 whole area right there is they're trying to make that a heritage a 1694 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,480 heritage area. 1695 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,160 And I uh 1696 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,190 I I worry that uh 1697 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,000 it would be to me it'd be somewhat 1698 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,640 blighted bringing in a a business 1699 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,120 right next to all of that. 1700 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,720 >> Well, what I noticed coming through 1701 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,680 there is all the buildings from Utah 1702 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,760 State, all their agriculture things. 1703 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,920 There's a lot of buildings. I mean 1704 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,880 >> A lot of agriculture buildings, not just 1705 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,320 that. 1706 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,880 >> classed agriculture, but they're still 1707 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,400 buildings. You know, with big 1708 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,760 agriculture 1709 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,120 >> Well, 25 pallets of Utah's like 20,000 1710 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,920 square foot building across the street. 1711 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,560 >> Yeah. 1712 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,880 >> I mean, it's massive. 1713 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,080 >> So, I think the view is really 1714 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,240 kind of 1715 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,280 already taken up 1716 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,120 with buildings. That's what I noticed 1717 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,830 coming through there. 1718 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,760 » Well, it's an issue, so it's up to 1719 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,560 >> Yeah, we can continue. 1720 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,990 >> No motion. I can't make a motion. 1721 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,360 » Continue? 1722 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,280 >> Do you have to change the rules or of 1723 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,840 that? 1724 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,400 >> Uh we can continue it and and 1725 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,080 take action on next 1726 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,560 meeting or we can take most take an 1727 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,680 action today. Either way. 1728 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,840 It's the first time that we're seeing it 1729 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,240 so we can just 1730 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,160 >> Go straight. 1731 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,160 >> We can do it next meeting as well. 1732 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,800 >> The rules would need to be suspended. 1733 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,040 >> Yeah. 1734 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,360 >> If we were to take action today we'd 1735 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,840 suspend the rules. 1736 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:41,590 >> Oh 1737 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,920 » Well, it seems like they've been coming. 1738 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,920 We've continued and continued 1739 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,280 already, but if you think you need more 1740 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,280 information or shall I make a motion 1741 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,800 suspend the rules and make a motion that 1742 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,760 we accept the rezone 1743 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,880 of Wellsville 2. That's how I feel about 1744 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:00,800 it. 1745 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,680 >> Of ordinance 2026-3? 1746 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:03,920 >> Yeah, mhm. 1747 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,040 >> Okay, we have a motion made by Joanne. 1748 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,200 Is there a second? 1749 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,360 >> I'll second. 1750 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,560 >> Okay. 1751 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:11,840 We have any further discussion on the 1752 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,870 motion on the floor? 1753 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,430 » This is a tough one. Um 1754 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,280 just north of there there is property 1755 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,160 for sale on both sides of the highway. 1756 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,240 Um I love the idea of open space and I 1757 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,880 love the idea of 1758 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,840 vistas and corridors, but at the same 1759 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,160 time I love the idea of property rights. 1760 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,630 Um 1761 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:42,670 I've wrestled with this, but um 1762 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,720 I I have a problem and I've we've got a 1763 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,440 letter here. I got emails 1764 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,240 during the week of not wanting it there. 1765 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:58,510 But um 1766 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,200 I have a hard time saying that we're 1767 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,680 putting this 1768 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,440 coverage on this property and not giving 1769 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,680 property owners say so what goes on this 1770 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,520 coverage as far as an open vista and 1771 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,440 everything else. I love the open vistas. 1772 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,920 I have ground of my own I want to keep 1773 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,560 open, but 1774 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:17,590 um we got growth, so 1775 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,200 And I want to support the planning and 1776 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,320 zoning, but there was a great debate in 1777 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,080 planning and zoning. 1778 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,960 And um 1779 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:27,480 I'm going to side with the two of the 1780 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,920 planning and zoning who 1781 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,800 denied this and I'm going to agree with 1782 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,160 what um 1783 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,160 Joanna's proposed 1784 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,550 >> here. 1785 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,600 » The executive, yes. 1786 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,080 >> Um 1787 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,360 you're just bending your rules to vote 1788 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,520 on it. 1789 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,480 It's a major issue. I wonder if you 1790 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,920 shouldn't have a full quorum 1791 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,200 to dispose of this issue. 1792 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,240 >> Noted, thank you. 1793 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,880 >> had question for you. 1794 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,870 >> Thank you. 1795 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,670 » It's a good point. 1796 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,080 Commissioner or council members, what 1797 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,480 your thoughts of what the executive 1798 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,390 said? 1799 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:09,760 There is a motion on the floor, but 1800 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,480 >> a motion on the floor. 1801 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,510 So 1802 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,400 We need to vote on the motion on the 1803 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,520 floor. 1804 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,240 Um all those in favor say I. 1805 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,880 >> I. 1806 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,040 Any opposed? 1807 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,400 >> Nay. 1808 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,600 >> Motion prevails. 1809 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,040 Okay, moving on. We will go to 1810 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,630 ordinance 2026-31 1811 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,000 Richmond City Creek rezone. Thanks, 1812 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,000 Brian. You just are planted there for a 1813 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,319 minute. 1814 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:47,070 >> It's all right. 1815 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:47,720 Questions? 1816 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,120 >> Questions? 1817 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,520 It's adjacent to industrial. 1818 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,120 >> Yeah, Lowers is just to the north of it 1819 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,240 a couple of fields. Yeah. 1820 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,160 >> Oh, a couple of fields. So it's not 1821 01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:58,560 >> Yeah. 1822 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,560 >> 1.38 miles. So it would be a similar 1823 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,200 >> .38 1824 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,400 >> Oh, .38. Oh. 1825 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,000 >> Uh 1826 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,279 is there only one point of access? 1827 01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,960 >> It'll be on I think that's 9000 North. I 1828 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,560 call it Whiskey Lane my whole life. 1829 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,160 >> There there it I just looking at the 1830 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,120 maps it didn't look like it came over 1831 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,480 >> It won't come off of the highway the 1832 01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,720 access to this property. 1833 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,120 >> going to say UDOT will have a 1834 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,960 I don't think they want to take on UDOT. 1835 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,080 >> 9000 North 1836 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,000 >> So that's where their access then will 1837 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:26,480 be. 1838 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:31,670 >> Yep. 1839 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,920 » Whiskey Lane? 1840 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:33,400 >> Yeah. 1841 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,799 >> Is that what You got You got to be from 1842 01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:36,400 the north You got to be from the north 1843 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,960 to call it that? 1844 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,920 >> But he didn't name it. 1845 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,160 >> Oh, okay. 1846 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,160 >> I don't think so. 1847 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,030 >> No. No. 1848 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,440 » It was named that when we learned to 1849 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:47,040 drive on there. 1850 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,080 >> highways but you're saying the access 1851 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,960 will be from from 1852 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:50,560 this lane. 1853 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,359 >> 9000 North 1854 01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:54,080 >> Matt lives on 1855 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:54,440 Matt Funk 1856 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,000 >> Oh, Matt Funk lives on that. Oh, okay. 1857 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,040 He might have named it. 1858 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,563 >> How it's coming together. back in the 1859 01:10:00,563 --> 01:10:02,440 >> [laughter] 1860 01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:04,440 >> Okay, is there any further questions 1861 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:05,680 that we have? 1862 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,200 Or any action that we want to take this 1863 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,200 evening? 1864 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,160 >> I would move to suspend the rules and 1865 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,600 pass ordinance 2026-31. 1866 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,920 >> Second. 1867 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,160 >> We'll take Nolan. Second by Nolan. 1868 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,840 Uh any further discussion? 1869 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:21,920 Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. 1870 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,360 All those in favor say aye. 1871 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,880 >> Aye. 1872 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,360 >> Any opposed? 1873 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,080 The motion prevails. Okay, thank you. 1874 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,920 Now we'll move to the resolution 1875 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,760 providing round one approval of 2026-19, 1876 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,800 excuse me, providing round one approval 1877 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,400 to the Birch Canyon Weed and Seed Co-op 1878 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,560 open space application. 1879 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,680 That one was a tongue twister. 1880 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,120 Oh, Brian. 1881 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,520 Sorry, you sat down. Oh, no, Chris. 1882 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,000 Excuse me, Chris is here. 1883 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,800 Chris was 1884 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,110 on a couch. 1885 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,680 Thanks, Chris. 1886 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,640 >> Thank you. Thanks for having us. We're 1887 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,920 excited again 1888 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,400 to bring another couple of CO sec 1889 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,040 recommendations of approval to the 1890 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,440 council 1891 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,040 tonight. 1892 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,120 And so the first project and and for 1893 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,640 both projects 1894 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,720 I believe we have land owner 1895 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,960 representation 1896 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,760 here tonight. So if you have questions 1897 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,160 feel free to ask them if any questions 1898 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,480 you may have. So the first one is called 1899 01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:30,320 the Birch Canyon weed and seed co-op 1900 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,360 project. This is a small relatively 1901 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,160 small property 1902 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,590 but it's uh 1903 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,800 size 1904 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,960 is significantly I'm sorry the 1905 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,280 significance of it is is much larger 1906 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,640 than just the size of the property. 1907 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,720 Um 1908 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,560 it happens to border the north end of 1909 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,880 the recently acquired Cash County 1910 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,120 parcel 1911 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,760 project known as the shoot property and 1912 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,280 so this project would abut um 1913 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,720 bond funded open space that the county 1914 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:09,960 council 1915 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,400 utilized 1916 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:11,760 um 1917 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,560 >> Can you point which direction that bond 1918 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,240 funded 1919 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,760 >> south. 1920 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,080 >> On that. 1921 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,000 map yep. 1922 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,000 >> Go down. 1923 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:20,760 >> It's down there. 1924 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:21,200 >> Yeah. 1925 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,600 >> It's straight at the bottom. 1926 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,520 >> Oh I know which side it's on. 1927 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,880 >> Straight bottom I'm sorry. We need 1928 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,640 >> Yeah. 1929 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,080 >> I know which side it's 1930 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,280 I know on that which way is it? 1931 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,960 >> So it'd be at the top end of the county 1932 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:30,400 parcel. 1933 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,000 >> Okay got you. 1934 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,640 >> And it happens to um 1935 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,520 involve 1936 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,200 Birch Canyon Road for those of you 1937 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,840 familiar with that area. It's very 1938 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,720 popular access for 1939 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,560 hikers, bikers and other recreationists 1940 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,800 in addition to a handful of land owners 1941 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,280 up in this area. 1942 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,560 Um so as mentioned Birch Canyon Road and 1943 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,120 Birch Creek both run through the 1944 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,200 property as well as the a water 1945 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,520 pipeline. 1946 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:02,920 And 1947 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,320 the landowners here are very interested 1948 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,200 in in protecting the 1949 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,640 native habitat that exists on the 1950 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,630 property. 1951 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:14,800 Um, 1952 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,400 just a reminder we're we're in this 1953 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:17,880 first round 1954 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,640 of our application process 1955 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,160 um, for this project. 1956 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,800 And 1957 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,320 this was is a summary of the categories 1958 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,080 that were evaluated for the property. So 1959 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,600 in terms of scoring for COSACH funding, 1960 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,320 we looked at scenic vistas, 1961 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,960 valley gateways, agricultural waterways, 1962 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,600 wildlife habitat, public access access 1963 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,680 and any other distinguishing factors to 1964 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,000 come up with 1965 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,040 the score out of a total of 100 points. 1966 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,800 This project received 49, 1967 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,680 which is still a pretty good scoring. 1968 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,800 Just for reference, we haven't had a 1969 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,080 of the 20 projects that have come before 1970 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,440 you, I don't think we've had one score 1971 01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:10,920 more than 76 1972 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,120 to give you an idea. 1973 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,160 So it's not 1974 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,520 a below a certain grade fails or 1975 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,360 anything like that. 1976 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,320 This just shows that there is broad 1977 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,320 benefits 1978 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:29,510 for for the project overall. 1979 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,000 Um, in terms of protecting scenic 1980 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,120 vistas, the COSACH scored it a 5.7 out 1981 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,760 of 15. 1982 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,920 It is a very scenic property. However, 1983 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,400 it's not along 1984 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,320 a highway major highway that sort of 1985 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,200 thing. 1986 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,680 Um, and can't really be seen from the 1987 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,760 valley floor. 1988 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,720 So, really those who are going to 1989 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,880 experience are going to be 1990 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,760 up Birch Canyon or perhaps on some of 1991 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,430 the adjacent properties. 1992 01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:02,440 Uh it's not near a Valley Gateway, so 1993 01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:08,190 got a fairly low score for for that. 1994 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,720 Um it's not farmland, so again a low 1995 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,440 score for farmland. However, 1996 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:19,120 where it tends to stand out is in for 1997 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,200 maintaining waterways. As mentioned, 1998 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,200 Birch Creek flows through the property 1999 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,760 and um the landowners have worked for 2000 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,960 many years to 2001 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,640 um remove invasive species on the on the 2002 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,520 property and out of the riparian area. 2003 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,440 It's also really good wildlife habitat, 2004 01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:41,240 so it got nearly 12 out of 15 points for 2005 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,600 that. Um there's fair amount of nesting 2006 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,680 that that goes on in some of the larger 2007 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,000 trees on the property, and of course, 2008 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,080 the usual wildlife that we would see up 2009 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:56,670 in the canyons frequent this um parcel. 2010 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,680 And um 2011 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,000 the existing 2012 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,880 uh Birch Canyon Road is a very popular 2013 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,120 trail 2014 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,800 uh access leading to a trailhead um 2015 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,320 or former trailhead, I suppose, uh that 2016 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,400 accesses Forest Service property or 2017 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,720 public land 2018 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,280 um up the road from this property. 2019 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,960 Um so, folks are already 2020 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,560 traveling through the property on the 2021 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:29,600 county road and are able to benefit from the view um of the property and and 2022 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,720 the other um resources that come with 2023 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,240 the property. 2024 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,280 Yes, sir. George. 2025 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,600 >> Chris, I I just want to make 2026 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:38,240 uh 2027 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,840 have a little understanding of what the 2028 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,440 situation is up there. I'm I'm familiar 2029 01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:49,240 with the roadway. I've been up there. Is the roadway now 2030 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,000 in some way restricted from bikes? 2031 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,600 >> It's not. 2032 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:55,640 So, 2033 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,840 >> um 2034 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,560 and I guess there's motorcycles, trail 2035 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,600 bikes, there's electric bikes, and so 2036 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,200 on. 2037 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,600 >> Yeah. And vehicles, cars, trucks. 2038 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,120 >> Right. 2039 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:06,880 >> Yes. 2040 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:07,680 >> Um 2041 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,240 as I understood it, the owners of the 2042 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,640 property are proposing 2043 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,160 to close it? They 2044 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,560 >> No, no, no. Not to close it. So, um 2045 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,120 yeah, sorry if that there's a 2046 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,760 misunderstanding there. 2047 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,000 >> They say there for bikers would be a 2048 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,440 disturbance. What what 2049 01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,400 >> Correct. For 2050 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,360 uh 2051 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,960 if you were to ask them for developing 2052 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,720 trails, other trails through the 2053 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,080 property, not the county road, but other 2054 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,360 trails through the property. Say to 2055 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,600 connect to the county roads. 2056 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,320 Um and the landowners are here, and they 2057 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,000 can speak to it, but they just recognize 2058 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,920 that 2059 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,840 um bicycles bring a level of disturbance 2060 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,680 that they would prefer to avoid. 2061 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,280 >> Yeah, and I think frankly the 2062 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,480 area would be better non-motorized. 2063 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:56,920 >> Yes. 2064 01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,000 >> If we're something, but I want to make 2065 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,200 it clear if we're making that decision 2066 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,360 or not. By by approving this, we're 2067 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,520 really not changing whatever the road 2068 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,760 rights are now. Is that correct? 2069 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,720 >> That is correct. 2070 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:10,120 >> Okay. 2071 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,000 >> That is correct. And I think 2072 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,240 >> I don't want them changed. I just say 2073 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,760 that we're this isn't changing at this 2074 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,360 point. 2075 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,720 >> That's correct. And um and and of course 2076 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,440 all of that would be worked out at a 2077 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:23,440 later time, but at least as far as the 2078 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,400 landowner has explained to us, 2079 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,960 um they're open to public access. They 2080 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,240 want people to see the property and view 2081 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,800 the property, 2082 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,120 um but would prefer that it's by foot, 2083 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,310 for 2084 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,600 Sure. Yeah. 2085 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,760 Okay. 2086 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,720 You'll have to come You'll have to 2087 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,120 >> Sir, do you mind coming and speaking in 2088 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,720 the microphone and stating your name? 2089 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,800 No, you're 2090 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,400 >> Uh the main road is a county road and 2091 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,200 right now it supports about 19 different 2092 01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:00,120 sets of users. Some go slow, horses, 2093 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,400 families, walkers. Some go fast. 2094 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,280 Um it will get more congested, but I 2095 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,440 because the road goes through my our 2096 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:12,800 land, we weren't talking about that road at 2097 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:13,240 all. 2098 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,200 >> Okay. That's all I wanted. 2099 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,080 >> And sir, will you state your name just 2100 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,000 for the record? No, you're fine. 2101 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,680 >> K.O. Robertson and this is Beth 2102 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,640 Callender, my wife. 2103 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,150 >> Thank you. 2104 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,920 K.O. 2105 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,440 Um 2106 01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:30,760 Okay. 2107 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,760 And then some of the distinguishing 2108 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,760 factors, primarily, you know, just 2109 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,080 recognizing that it's adjacent to an 2110 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,920 existing bond purchase 2111 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,520 land and 2112 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,880 with that provides potentially a 2113 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,200 connection 2114 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:47,880 um 2115 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,040 to Birch Canyon from the county land. 2116 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,880 So, 2117 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,960 think about that and and opportunities 2118 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,280 there. We see We see an opportunity. 2119 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,800 Um 2120 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,800 So, next steps would be to 2121 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,920 um 2122 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,320 request your uh approval for round one 2123 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,080 um so we can move on to to round two and 2124 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,600 uh get more specifics as far as what the 2125 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,560 landowner would like to see in terms of 2126 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,960 a project and project funding. 2127 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,680 Other questions we can answer on this 2128 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,120 one for now? 2129 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:27,720 >> Another question. 2130 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,040 This one's a little bit different than 2131 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,760 what we've seen on the other open space 2132 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,120 ones. So, who would be a partner in 2133 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,120 funding on this? Give me example. 2134 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,390 >> Um 2135 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,400 it's going to be limited. Because it's a 2136 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,320 small parcel, you know, just from our 2137 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,640 work with you on the workshop, 2138 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:46,480 um 2139 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,160 there it's not going to attract in our 2140 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,040 CS funding necessarily or Lee Ray 2141 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,320 McAllister. They want to emphasize 2142 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,480 agricultural land. So, 2143 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,760 um potential 2144 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,640 funding sources as one thing, a 2145 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,680 potential funding source and or 2146 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,280 um easement holder in this case could 2147 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,320 be, for example, like the Division of 2148 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,760 Wildlife Resources. Or as we talked, you 2149 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,600 know, is this one of the projects that 2150 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,480 the county could potentially be the 2151 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:19,080 easement holder. Um 2152 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,480 if if 2153 01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,400 you agree that that would be a good 2154 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,840 thing. So. 2155 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,240 >> Is that potentially a 2156 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,400 municipality? 2157 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,680 >> Could be a municipality, could be a 2158 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,640 nonprofit organization, also. So, there 2159 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,880 are other options. It's just not likely 2160 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,440 to attract much in the way of funding. 2161 01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:39,000 And And so, I think 2162 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,080 um 2163 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,600 that's really 2164 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,360 the kinds of things that we'll get in 2165 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,960 dig into detail on in round two. 2166 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:46,880 Get those things figured out. 2167 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,840 >> I would 2168 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,840 tell you that I think there's 2169 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,400 significant support in Smithfield City 2170 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,280 for this project. This is This is a 2171 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,390 really beautiful canyon. 2172 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,160 I recognize, you know, if the landowner 2173 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,800 is not putting a restriction on the 2174 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,960 county road, but we may choose to do 2175 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,840 that. And And how to enhance this area. 2176 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,440 But it in connection with our shoot 2177 01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:14,840 property, this is This is a real 2178 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,200 important parcel. 2179 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,440 And I would think that we would want to 2180 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:22,480 do everything to encourage this 2181 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:23,440 um 2182 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,680 project. 2183 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,720 Does the I recognize years ago when we 2184 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,520 were working on this is establishing a 2185 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,560 county road. Smithfield City was vitally 2186 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,800 interested, but it wasn't 2187 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,520 it was there was still an open 2188 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,800 discussion about what kind of use ought 2189 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,480 to be, but citizens enjoy walking up 2190 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:49,240 Birch Canyon. 2191 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,350 Just a lovely place. 2192 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,280 » Yeah. 2193 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,640 I think this is one of those unique 2194 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,160 projects, right? That we were talking 2195 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,600 about earlier. It's not going to fit the 2196 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,720 mold of most of the other projects that 2197 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,600 we're going to bring to you. So, 2198 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,720 uh we may we may need to be creative. I know that the landowners have 2199 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:13,960 expressed, you know, that the the financials of it is not the driving 2200 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,840 factor for them. They just really want 2201 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,560 to see this 2202 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,560 project conserved or this land 2203 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,840 conserved. 2204 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,960 >> Yeah. It mentions that the Bonneville 2205 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,160 Shoreline 2206 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,240 Trail. Does it Does it actually put it 2207 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,560 propose it? Is it going to traverse 2208 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,600 this property or is it near this 2209 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:34,360 property? 2210 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,240 >> Nearby. I think there's potential 2211 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,960 connections in the that could be made in 2212 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,160 the future to the Bonneville Shoreline 2213 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,560 Trail, but it's not not necessarily on 2214 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,160 this property. 2215 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,920 >> does not restrict 2216 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:46,640 >> That's right. 2217 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,680 >> That you know, bicycles are allowed on 2218 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,120 that. 2219 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:49,760 >> True. 2220 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,160 >> So. 2221 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:50,960 >> That's right. 2222 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,000 >> That That might be an issue then. 2223 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:58,280 >> Yeah. But, you know, you can as the landowner on your 2224 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,560 property, you can 2225 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,800 allocate uh 2226 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,000 an easement or a trail for Bonneville 2227 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,960 Shoreline Trail for all the uses. You 2228 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,840 could also have a trail that tiers off 2229 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,200 of that that maybe comes into this 2230 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,200 canyon that is more restrictive. 2231 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:24,110 So, I think that is possible. 2232 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,760 Other questions I can help answer or 2233 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:27,560 >> Thank you. 2234 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,320 >> Do you want to hear from the landowners? 2235 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,080 >> I I would I would move that we go ahead 2236 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,200 and 2237 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,080 allow this to move on and we we pass I 2238 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,400 guess phase one. 2239 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:39,920 >> Is this an ordinance? 2240 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,200 >> We have to spend this ordinance? 2241 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,680 >> I don't know. 2242 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:43,880 >> It's resolution we don't have 2243 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:44,600 >> Sorry. 2244 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,720 >> And so 2245 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,960 we go ahead and pass this and send it on 2246 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,560 to continue this process and 2247 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,520 I 2248 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,000 think it's going to it's going to be a 2249 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,360 evolution as we go because it is 2250 01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,960 a unique 2251 01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:01,960 five and a half acre smaller parcel. 2252 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,920 We'll have to learn as we go. 2253 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,920 >> I second that motion. 2254 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,920 >> Okay, thank you. We have a motion on the floor. Any further 2255 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,280 discussion? 2256 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,440 Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in 2257 01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:13,440 favor say I. 2258 01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:14,480 >> I. 2259 01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:16,480 >> Thank you. It passes. 2260 01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:19,440 Um Council, I ask for your forgiveness. 2261 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:22,080 I inadvertently skipped 2262 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,240 on our 8C. 2263 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,240 Um so while Chris is here, we'll go 2264 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,920 ahead if if you'll allow we'll go ahead 2265 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,480 and move on with E and circle back to C 2266 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,040 if that's okay. 2267 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,640 While Chris is at the podium, is that 2268 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,320 okay? 2269 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,760 >> Matt's thinking about Whiskey Lane 2270 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,240 anyhow. 2271 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,520 >> I know. So excuse me, we will get back 2272 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,440 to C but let's go ahead and let Chris if 2273 01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:44,680 that's okay with the Council. 2274 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,240 >> Okay. 2275 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,120 Thank you, Chris. 2276 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,240 >> Thank you. Okay. 2277 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,760 >> I was feeling sorry for Matt. I was 2278 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,800 thinking 2279 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,120 >> Here's a Here's another great project 2280 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,000 for 2281 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,960 your consideration that we're bringing 2282 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,600 to you. This is called the Willow Ranch 2283 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,200 project and again we have the landowners 2284 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,000 are here this evening 2285 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,080 should we have any questions. 2286 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,160 And they are partnering with the Utah 2287 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,040 Agricultural Land Trust on this project. 2288 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,240 And so we have a a over 100 acres, 2289 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,000 um, on two parcels. 2290 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000 And one thing you may not be able to see 2291 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,200 it there, but, um, the road along the 2292 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,600 southeast portion of, uh, the parcel on 2293 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,080 the east, there is called Center Street. 2294 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,080 >> We got Whiskey Lane and Center Street. 2295 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,800 >> That is the Center Street that comes all 2296 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,280 the way to downtown Logging. 2297 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:40,760 >> Oh, Center. 2298 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,800 >> Center Street. I thought you said 2299 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:42,724 Sinner. 2300 01:26:42,724 --> 01:26:44,870 >> [laughter] 2301 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,965 » Don't tell her about Cannibal Road. 2302 01:26:47,965 --> 01:26:49,080 >> [laughter] 2303 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,440 >> Yeah, then we have Cannibal Road. 2304 01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:51,760 >> Sinner Street. 2305 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,640 >> So, Center Street, 2306 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,400 um, 2307 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,440 and so, one of the unique things I 2308 01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:59,200 discovered about this project, if you're 2309 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,600 in downtown Logging and you're standing 2310 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,360 under the arch on Center Street and you 2311 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,000 look due west, this is part of the 2312 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,580 landscape that is framed by 2313 01:27:09,580 --> 01:27:11,800 [clears throat] the tree-lined street 2314 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,520 down Center Street that you see in the 2315 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,800 background. 2316 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,400 Um, so, it's pretty 2317 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,240 important, you know, from a number of 2318 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,040 vistas across the county, even though 2319 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,560 it's not on a highway. 2320 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,760 Um, 2321 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,600 the farm's been in the family for over 2322 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,280 150 years, has a intermittent stream 2323 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,040 that flows through, 2324 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,320 um, the property and, uh, the landowners 2325 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,720 are actively working on restoring, 2326 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:41,720 um, 2327 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,280 the property there. 2328 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,360 It's also, uh, that 2329 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:51,360 southwest corner of the upper parcel 2330 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,400 there 2331 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,800 touches, uh, US Forest Service land. 2332 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,160 And so, it does connect 2333 01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:02,030 to public land. 2334 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:03,960 Um, similar to the previous projects 2335 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,600 we've brought to you recently, we're in 2336 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,160 the first round here and and looking for 2337 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,560 round one approval from the council. Um, 2338 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,080 I won't go over the scoring process, but 2339 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,800 I'll just jump right cut right to the 2340 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,200 chase. 2341 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,840 Um, 2342 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,200 this project scored 58 out of 100, uh, 2343 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,080 which is a great score, um, scoring 2344 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,720 similar to a couple of the other 2345 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,480 projects we've brought to you recently 2346 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,680 on that West Gateway area. Those prop- 2347 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,360 properties and projects are north of of 2348 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,360 this one, but not very far north. So, 2349 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,840 um, they're all part of that same 2350 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,760 landscape 2351 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,640 if you're Highway heading, uh, west and 2352 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,000 you're looking at the Wellsville 2353 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,760 Mountain, this project, the Hat J Ranch 2354 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,640 and the Poulsen family 2355 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,160 uh, farm, they're all viewable from 2356 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,120 um, 2357 01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,190 Valley View Highway. 2358 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,600 Uh, protect scenic vistas, so this is, 2359 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,120 as mentioned, a pretty scenic parcel, 2360 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,720 um, got eight out of 15, 2361 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,670 uh, score. 2362 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,200 Uh, it is near a valley gateway, though 2363 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,880 it's not along it, so it did garner some 2364 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,160 points, um, because it can be viewed 2365 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,520 from from the gateway and Highway 30, 2366 01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,080 which is only about a mile and a half 2367 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,750 away. 2368 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,240 It is primarily agricultural land, so it 2369 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,000 got a high score for agriculture, 11 out 2370 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,360 of 15. 2371 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,120 Um, there are 2372 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,120 intermittent uh, stream channels through 2373 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,920 the property and active works 2374 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,360 by the landowners and, 2375 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,360 um, establishing some uh, 2376 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:51,870 beaver dam analogs on the property. 2377 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,440 Wildlife habitat is, uh, 2378 01:29:54,440 --> 01:29:56,400 similar to the other projects we've 2379 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,000 looked at, so 2380 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,040 it's 10 out of 15 2381 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,320 in this area. 2382 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,200 And then there's moose on that land? 2383 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,720 >> What's that? 2384 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,320 >> There's moose on the land? 2385 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,680 >> Yeah, they down from the forest, 2386 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:09,640 actually. 2387 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,200 >> Wow. 2388 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:11,120 >> So, they have 2389 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:11,920 >> has been 2390 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,000 mother and child there a couple of 2391 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,280 years. Sometimes we might have 2392 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,440 We have a pond. 2393 01:30:18,440 --> 01:30:19,280 >> Wow. 2394 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,270 That's cool. 2395 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:23,520 » Um 2396 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,160 the landowners are willing to consider 2397 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,360 public access, and one of the 2398 01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,600 interesting things about it is that that 2399 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,680 western along the western boundary there 2400 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,840 is a prescriptive easement to allow 2401 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,160 access to the Forest Service. So, 2402 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,480 there's um 2403 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,880 ranchers that use that as an access if 2404 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,000 they're bringing their livestock um 2405 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,080 through the area to the adjacent parcels 2406 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,680 or onto Forest Service property. 2407 01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:48,760 Um 2408 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:54,440 and it doesn't have a great connection to to a public road, 2409 01:30:54,440 --> 01:30:58,320 necessarily, but in the future um as 2410 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,400 this part of the valley continues to 2411 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,640 grow and um 2412 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,000 develop, then there could be an 2413 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,480 opportunity to make that connection to 2414 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:09,960 the property 2415 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,710 via public access. 2416 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,960 And then lastly, distinguishing factors, 2417 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,600 um just just a few items, 2418 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,240 uh the importance of the open space, 2419 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,640 it's sort of the backdrop um to some 2420 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,080 important views in the valley, and it's 2421 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:32,230 near the valley gateway. 2422 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,400 Okay, so similarly, um 2423 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,240 we'd like to 2424 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,320 seek your round one approval so that uh 2425 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,520 we can work with the landowners and the 2426 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:46,280 Agricultural Land Trust to um bring uh 2427 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:52,160 the project specifics to round two and learn more about the project and its 2428 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,120 potential. 2429 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,280 Any questions I can help answer or 2430 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,000 >> I would move 2431 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,200 Pass resolution 2026-20 2432 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,040 for the Willow Ranch open space 2433 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,520 application and moving it on to 2434 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,400 uh that providing round one approval. 2435 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:11,480 >> Second. 2436 01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:14,040 >> Okay, thank you. Any discussion? All 2437 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,280 those in favor say I. 2438 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,640 >> I. 2439 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,680 >> Okay, thank you Chris and thank you. 2440 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,320 for coming. 2441 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,640 Okay. 2442 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:26,480 We're going to circle back 2443 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:28,600 to item C. 2444 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,550 Thank you Matt. 2445 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:37,430 Resolution 2026-17. 2446 01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:39,320 The opening and amending the 2447 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,240 Cash County 2026 budget. May we 2448 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:47,150 questions for our auditor? 2449 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,960 » From our co-creations meeting it was 2450 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,880 fun to see something that's 2451 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,160 not taking money out. 2452 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,200 >> Yeah. 2453 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:56,080 >> So. 2454 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,000 >> Thank you to all your work you've done. 2455 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,280 >> This is considered a special 2456 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,680 >> And I just need to say 2457 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,200 uh council chair that 2458 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,790 my staff 2459 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,920 » Please pass along our appreciation. 2460 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,000 >> It So is this a special budget opening 2461 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,360 then rather than our 2462 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,560 >> It is not. It is the 2463 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:17,840 >> This is our quarterly and this is the 2464 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,480 only item? 2465 01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:20,520 >> Yes. 2466 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:21,800 >> Holy moly. 2467 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:22,760 >> 40 items. 2468 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:23,760 >> There's a lot of them. Did you see 2469 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:24,480 >> 40 items in there. 2470 01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:24,840 >> I know. 2471 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,800 >> 19 pages. 20 2472 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,000 >> It the one big one that you talked about 2473 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,000 with the wraps and everything. 2474 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,400 >> Yes, uh the fact that the council 2475 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,440 um to use the word I used in preparation 2476 01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:38,120 so adroitly addressed the wraps tax with 2477 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:39,640 such um 2478 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,360 alacrity allows us to 2479 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:43,960 put the wraps funding into this so we 2480 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:45,240 don't need to have a special wraps 2481 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:58,110 opening here in a couple of weeks. 2482 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,960 Uh while you're thinking uh I note 2483 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,320 there's a big airport capital project in 2484 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,800 this, but the FAA is paying for 95% of 2485 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:07,960 it. 2486 01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,320 So, the airport already has the funds 2487 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,640 for the remainder. So, there's no county money involved in that 2488 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:16,920 particular 2489 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,240 endeavor. 2490 01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,160 >> Is that project been solidified by FAA? 2491 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:28,310 Is it a for sure? Okay. 2492 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,000 » So, what's the total increase? 2493 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,640 >> 170,000. 2494 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:33,760 >> The total 2495 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:34,360 >> line. 2496 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:38,120 >> The total increase across every fund 2497 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,600 is is $6.3 million. 2498 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,760 Now, of that $6.3 million a million of 2499 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,720 that is is revenue from other 2500 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,520 governments, federal and state, and 2501 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:51,840 pretty much the rest of it is coming 2502 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,440 from RAP funding. 2503 01:34:54,440 --> 01:34:56,760 So, in fact, it's 2504 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,440 because we have RAP funding now, we are 2505 01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:02,280 able to go back and decrease 2506 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,400 the amount of of of funds that we were 2507 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,800 going to expend from the general fund. 2508 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,880 And so, we're actually putting 2509 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,680 177,000 2510 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,000 back into the general fund. 2511 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,720 >> That's exciting. 2512 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,520 >> So, the net amount 2513 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,720 Do you have a Not just an estimate's 2514 01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,640 good. 2515 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,960 >> Well, it it will increase the the the total 2516 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,000 expenditures from $133 million 2517 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:37,150 countywide to $140 million. 2518 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,120 » Even taking into consideration all these 2519 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,880 variables you mentioned. 2520 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,200 >> Most of that is RAP funding. RAP funding 2521 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,560 is $5.1 million. So, of the of the $6.3 2522 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:49,920 million 2523 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,680 in expenditures, RAP funding is is 2524 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,680 roughly 5.1 million of that, and then 2525 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,600 we've got federal government coming in 2526 01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:58,800 for 2527 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:03,390 about a million. 2528 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,800 » Okay. 2529 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,160 They're posted? 2530 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,760 >> I will make a motion on resolution 2531 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,320 2026-20 2532 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,200 providing round one approval. No. 2533 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,040 >> That's 17. 2534 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:12,680 >> 17. 2535 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,360 >> Got me mixed up on the C. 2536 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,200 >> It's C. I'm sorry. 2537 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,680 >> I was all excited we down the page. 2538 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,600 All right. Resolution 2026-17 2539 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,040 opening and amending the Cache County 2540 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,560 2026 budget third amendment. I say we 2541 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,910 approve it. 2542 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,640 » Second. Any second? 2543 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,000 >> I'll second that. 2544 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:33,440 >> Okay. 2545 01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:34,480 >> Don't leave me hanging. 2546 01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:36,360 >> Thank you. Thank you. Further 2547 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:37,840 discussion. 2548 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,160 All those in favor say I. 2549 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:40,520 >> I. 2550 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,400 >> Thank you. 2551 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,800 Thanks, Matt. 2552 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,830 Pending items. 2553 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,640 A. 2554 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,320 Mr. Executive. 2555 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,572 >> Okay. Um 2556 01:36:50,572 --> 01:36:52,440 >> [clears throat] 2557 01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,800 >> We've worked on this uh 2558 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,200 during the April 21st meeting you 2559 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,680 approved to have that developer come to 2560 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,160 our road. 2561 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:02,400 Uh 2562 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,520 the developer because of that was able 2563 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,920 to submit a subdivision application to 2564 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,720 River Heights. 2565 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,360 Uh 2566 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,720 we're we're providing you an update of 2567 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,440 what the consequence of that is. 2568 01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,080 Uh 2569 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,400 Matt Thillitson talked to the River 2570 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,480 Heights City, 2571 01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:24,120 and the council member who is in charge 2572 01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,560 of the project, and they have received a 2573 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,880 preliminary plat for that subdivision. 2574 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,400 Uh 2575 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,200 Copy of the comments in the planning 2576 01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,440 commission are with this packet that I'm 2577 01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:42,200 going to give Anne to and add allow you 2578 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,520 to add that to the record of this 2579 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,000 meeting so you can review it. 2580 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,720 Uh based upon discussions with River 2581 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,600 Heights City staff, the next staff the 2582 01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:56,440 next step will be to get their plans 2583 01:37:56,440 --> 01:38:00,120 for the connection to our highway. We 2584 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,040 anticipate that'll be received in 2585 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,520 two to three [clears throat] months. 2586 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,040 And then at that point, we'll 2587 01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,600 uh, Matt will go over it and see whether 2588 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,520 it it meets our necessary criteria. 2589 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,120 And if it does, we will 2590 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,800 formally approve it and the project is 2591 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:22,800 underway. 2592 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,320 >> They can take that long on a subdivision 2593 01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:24,760 approval? 2594 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,880 >> It's their task. 2595 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:27,440 >> Yes, but 2596 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:29,040 >> It's I I think it's 2597 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:30,560 >> We don't get that long on the county. 2598 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,000 >> they're going to be doing at the same 2599 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:33,960 time, but 2600 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,960 we don't expect to see this until about 2601 01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,400 two or three months. Is that right, 2602 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,160 Matt? 2603 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,360 So, that's an update. 2604 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,840 My suggestion is that you take this 2605 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,400 thing that's on your agenda every 2606 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:53,950 two weeks and put it out three months. 2607 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,400 Now, that's one part of highway County 2608 01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,000 Road 238. There's a couple of other 2609 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,200 parts that you need to be aware of. 2610 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,680 Millville 2611 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,480 has filled in cuts 2612 01:39:07,480 --> 01:39:10,800 and we're talking about trying to do a 2613 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,320 chip and seal there. We're going to be 2614 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,240 asking Millville 2615 01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:20,280 to correct those uh, trenches so that we 2616 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:21,920 won't have the problem that's now 2617 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,640 occurring where the ground is sinking. 2618 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,200 Providence 2619 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,680 has asked us to work with them in 2620 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,440 getting school crossings done because 2621 01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:35,240 they're changing what was a middle 2622 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,720 school to an elementary school, so they 2623 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,080 want additional crossing. My 2624 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,480 understanding is Providence 2625 01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:45,000 has ordered those and is prepared to pay 2626 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,960 for them, but we're going to have to 2627 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,720 have Matt review those to make sure they 2628 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,920 meet our standards. 2629 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,480 Okay, those are the things that are 2630 01:39:53,480 --> 01:39:56,960 happening with the highway. 2631 01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,440 Any questions? 2632 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:01,520 >> This is job security for Matt, this 2633 01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,144 flipping thing here. 2634 01:40:03,144 --> 01:40:04,160 >> [laughter] 2635 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,160 >> Yes, I think for two or three months 2636 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:11,350 he's safe. 2637 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,880 » We could give it to him tonight. 2638 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:17,320 >> I would appreciate the report if you 2639 01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,720 Add that Excuse me, here's the better 2640 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,720 copy. Let's add that one 2641 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,480 >> And that one? 2642 01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:26,920 >> to the agenda so that you have it. 2643 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,560 >> We got to give us a written statement 2644 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,590 yes, will you? 2645 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,680 » Yeah, I can do that. 2646 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,760 >> Yeah, scan it into the minutes. 2647 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:36,200 >> Yeah. 2648 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,400 >> But it can be put into 2649 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,200 this record that it was just received. 2650 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:41,840 >> Mander? 2651 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,240 >> Uh according to state law, one of the 2652 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:45,840 members of the county legislative body 2653 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:46,880 has to 2654 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:47,520 >> Receive it. 2655 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:48,400 >> has to 2656 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,760 essentially tell me to put this in the 2657 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,000 record. Though I appreciate it, it has 2658 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,600 to be one of you all to 2659 01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,560 >> Will you put that in the record, please? 2660 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,520 Thanks, Andrew. 2661 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:58,560 Thank you. 2662 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,680 And 2663 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,560 that's everything for that? 2664 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,720 >> Yes. Unless you have any questions. 2665 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,320 >> I Matt, you want to 2666 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,040 We make your life better? 2667 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,720 >> Just give it to him tonight. 2668 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,150 >> Give it to him tonight, be that. 2669 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:15,880 And they get to do all that. 2670 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:17,400 >> I know we're trying to We're trying to 2671 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:23,200 help out, but sometimes helping out 2672 01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,160 it just keeps it can cost you a lot of 2673 01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,440 money and that rather than say, "Merry 2674 01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:28,200 Christmas." 2675 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,000 >> this. 2676 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,640 >> We got to get our executive group to 2677 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,760 talk to Providence. I mean, 2678 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,440 aren't they hailing from Providence 2679 01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:35,560 here? 2680 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,400 >> Yeah. 2681 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,440 >> I'm just, you know, rubbing your nose in 2682 01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:40,840 it for a bit. 2683 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,480 >> Or maybe he could withhold his property 2684 01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:44,280 taxes from Maybe he could withhold his 2685 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,400 property taxes from them. 2686 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:47,120 >> Just maybe. 2687 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,480 >> Okay, ordinance 2026-21 2688 01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:52,640 amending chapter 17.14 on the resort 2689 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,040 recreation RR zone. 2690 01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,640 Brian Abbott 2691 01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,200 >> Our clerk. 2692 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,760 >> RR 2693 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:07,230 >> We need to first one. 2694 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,440 » We've gone over this before. Do you have 2695 01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:10,920 any questions? You want me to go through 2696 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:12,400 the whole thing again? 2697 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:13,490 >> Oh, please. 2698 01:42:13,490 --> 01:42:15,200 >> [laughter] 2699 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:15,960 >> Please everything. 2700 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:16,760 >> Um 2701 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,720 Angie and I did meet with Sandy and 2702 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,600 Andrews the other day. 2703 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,520 Kind of went over any of concerns she 2704 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,160 had. I thought that was a good meeting 2705 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,120 and we came to a pretty good 2706 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,560 understanding. 2707 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,080 Um 2708 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,640 I don't know if we want to wait till she 2709 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:38,910 gets back or go for it. 2710 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,120 » Was there anything in that meeting 2711 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,440 different than what the planning and 2712 01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:42,800 zoning had done? 2713 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:43,720 Talked about? 2714 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:46,600 >> Uh we updated a few things. We revised 2715 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,680 it a few things that they had concerns 2716 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,120 about. Um we can go over those if you 2717 01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,360 would like. 2718 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,590 Um 2719 01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,160 Which one are you on there? Yeah, right 2720 01:42:59,160 --> 01:42:59,640 there. 2721 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,040 >> If you change it, has it got to go back 2722 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,040 to planning and zoning? 2723 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:06,150 >> Yeah. 2724 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,360 » I would think it would have to if we're 2725 01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:08,160 changing it. 2726 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:08,760 >> Yeah. 2727 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,040 >> Yep. 2728 01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,800 >> They're the land use authority. They're the land use. 2729 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,000 >> If we change it or it has been changes, 2730 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,920 it's got to hit the P&Z again. 2731 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,920 >> Um yeah, we just cleaned up the format a 2732 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,040 little. 2733 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:20,760 Um 2734 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:25,760 it was ABCD, now it's A 1 2 B. So 2735 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,440 >> Formatting? 2736 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:28,560 >> If we need to take it back to the 2737 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,280 >> Substantive changes are 2738 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:30,920 >> Pardon? 2739 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,920 >> Substantive substantive changes are 2740 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,240 >> Yeah, we just kind of cleaned up the 2741 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:40,630 format and added some numbers. 2742 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,680 » So, did we have a question on the land 2743 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,120 use authority, who that was? Did that 2744 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,560 get clarified in there? 2745 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,840 >> Yeah. Yeah. 2746 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,760 >> Yeah, it got clarified that here and 2747 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:55,510 there, so. 2748 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:56,520 » What do you want to do? Do you want to 2749 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,200 take action tonight? 2750 01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:00,040 Do you want to take action? 2751 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,200 >> It's going to start feeling like the 2752 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:02,920 road one if we don't. 2753 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:04,842 >> It's perpetually beyond 2754 01:44:04,842 --> 01:44:05,400 >> [laughter] 2755 01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:06,280 >> We just 2756 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:07,880 keep rolling forward. 2757 01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:09,720 >> So, you're saying there's there's no 2758 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:11,680 wording or anything different, it's just 2759 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,950 the layout? 2760 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:19,430 » Still though. 2761 01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:21,760 » Dean, is P&Z the land use or what? 2762 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,720 >> not substantive, but it's just 2763 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,040 formatting, then it doesn't need to go 2764 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:25,800 back to them. 2765 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,400 >> Okay. 2766 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:28,400 >> Yeah, the 2767 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,000 uh the original the one from May is on 2768 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:31,960 there. 2769 01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:40,110 Um all the same except the format of it. 2770 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:41,680 » Then I 2771 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:43,880 I'm ready to make a motion. I like to 2772 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,550 follow the planning and zoning, so. 2773 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,360 Um ordinance 2026-21 2774 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,520 amending amending chapter 17.14 on the 2775 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,560 resort recreation RR zone, I say we 2776 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,310 approve. 2777 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:03,070 » So, second the motion. 2778 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,040 » I like people hanging me out this night, 2779 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:09,550 so. 2780 01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,600 It's like I'm dying. 2781 01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,470 >> Yeah. 2782 01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:16,960 Three, two, 2783 01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,200 >> One, done. 2784 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:19,000 >> I'll second that. 2785 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:20,680 >> Okay. 2786 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,440 Still alive. Okay, discussion. It seems 2787 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:25,120 we need some discussion on the motion on 2788 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:25,600 the 2789 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,920 >> Yeah, know, as I it, it's there was 2790 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,720 It isn't anything that's confusing, but 2791 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,510 it's just 2792 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,640 There's just some huge There's no 2793 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:36,640 concept. 2794 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:37,480 >> huge concept 2795 01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:38,920 >> Yeah, or uh 2796 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,280 I don't know. Impacts that that could 2797 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,840 that occur that Yeah, we just can't walk 2798 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,960 away from everything up there. 2799 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,000 >> It's a lot of 2800 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,880 >> tax dollar lot. And and we are we're 2801 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,400 covering the base, but it's I just don't 2802 01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:52,800 want to just 2803 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,280 kind of just give up give the farm 2804 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,560 because 2805 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:56,560 They're the They're the red-headed 2806 01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,600 stepchild kind of thing. 2807 01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,200 >> We'll always know what's going on up 2808 01:45:59,200 --> 01:45:59,440 there. 2809 01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:01,880 >> Yeah, we've got to. It's a 2810 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:06,870 So, anyway, I'm still still second that. 2811 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,520 » My my concerns are just 2812 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,520 as we're changing it from the 2813 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,080 development agreement 2814 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,200 to just abiding by the master plan. 2815 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,240 I just operationally I just haven't been 2816 01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:20,440 able to wrap my head around it fully 2817 01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:22,000 about how we're going to make sure we do 2818 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:22,960 that right. 2819 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,680 >> There is an email that was sent to you 2820 01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,040 today that might give you some insight. 2821 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,920 >> Yeah, and I haven't seen that yet today. 2822 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:29,760 >> came, so. 2823 01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:30,840 >> Olga 2824 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,280 Mariasina 2825 01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:34,960 >> Yeah. 2826 01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:35,680 Sorry. 2827 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:37,720 And then also something from Mr. Webb 2828 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,360 about what we're talking about up there, 2829 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:43,070 too. 2830 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,280 » And and their master plan 2831 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,040 um 2832 01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,360 is way more involved than even our code. 2833 01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:49,720 >> Right, yeah. But 2834 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:53,200 just ensuring we enforce or follow 2835 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:54,400 you know 2836 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:55,040 Yeah, but there's 2837 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,520 >> master plan and all we have to ensure 2838 01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,120 that it's abided by. 2839 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,910 >> Sure. 2840 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,640 » Thank you, Kurt. 2841 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,160 >> Questions? 2842 01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,870 Particular ones? 2843 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,600 He and I had a discussion today on this 2844 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,160 letter, and I went over and I encourage 2845 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,560 you guys all to look at it and go over 2846 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,640 it, too, but 2847 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,240 from what Kurt's put into it, it seems 2848 01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,640 that 2849 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:25,240 my concerns were is 2850 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:26,600 everybody kept saying the county was 2851 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:27,640 going to get all this money and 2852 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,000 everything else. I don't think we are, 2853 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,600 but I think we're not going to be 2854 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,720 spending money and everything there, 2855 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,200 too. So, 2856 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,840 net net on revenue taking costs, right? 2857 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,080 >> Yes, every service that we have to have them 2858 01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:43,760 do for us, 2859 01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,680 we have arranged for them to do it for 2860 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:47,840 no more than we pay or to have them do 2861 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,000 it 2862 01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,360 by expanding their fire district, for 2863 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,160 example, and taking over sewer and water 2864 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:55,960 by the expansion of the their district 2865 01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,800 up there that does that. And 2866 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,160 fees, we've got 2867 01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,200 currently, there are 2868 01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:03,880 uh 2869 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,200 interlocal agreements that are being 2870 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,280 written for your approval 2871 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,360 that that that talk about these 2872 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,000 standards that you're that you're 2873 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,720 passing now. 2874 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,640 So, you've got 2875 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,080 We rely heavily, of course, on our 2876 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:19,680 development services people to review 2877 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,760 this What is it? 1,300 pages, 2878 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,160 approximately? 2879 01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,360 Those design standards are more strict 2880 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,480 than either one of the county's codes. 2881 01:48:29,480 --> 01:48:31,560 And so, they've agreed to abide by them. 2882 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,080 We've agreed to abide by them. And we 2883 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,600 will keep updates as far as what they're 2884 01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:37,800 doing, but we don't have to approve 2885 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:39,880 their approve them as long as they are 2886 01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,720 in compliance with what we've both 2887 01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,280 agreed to. 2888 01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,800 >> I think the other thing to point out is 2889 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,880 the sewer and water, they take care of 2890 01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,040 it. The fire, they take care of it. 2891 01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:54,360 >> So, we're involved from the assessor and 2892 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,920 >> Well, the assessor and the recorder. 2893 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:56,840 >> Recorder. 2894 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,720 >> And the 2895 01:48:58,720 --> 01:48:59,280 uh 2896 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:00,960 the treasurer, of course. 2897 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,200 >> When you say they take care of it, 2898 01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,000 that's by an- they're annexing into 2899 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,560 their special services district. Yeah? 2900 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:06,920 >> Okay. 2901 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,560 >> Pardon me? 2902 01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,320 >> He said by them taking care of it, it's 2903 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:10,920 they're annexing into their special 2904 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,000 services districts. 2905 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,720 >> Yes, fire is doing that and uh so is 2906 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:16,560 sewer and water. 2907 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:17,080 >> sewer and water? 2908 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:18,480 has already done it. The 2909 01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:21,040 process for fire is in process. 2910 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,600 It's happening. 2911 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,360 >> Kurt, why don't you explain what our 2912 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,240 arrangement is with respect to 2913 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,720 education, recognizing that education is 2914 01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:34,200 about 60, 65% 2915 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,800 of our tax bill? 2916 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,160 >> So, Cache County School District will 2917 01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,040 get to keep the normal Cache County 2918 01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:41,840 School District 2919 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,640 portion of the taxes. 2920 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,920 And then 2921 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:46,160 the 2922 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,520 if there are school-age children that 2923 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,280 are permanent residents that have to be 2924 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,000 educated in the Weber County School 2925 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,040 District, then that's done on a per 2926 01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,440 student by basis. And so, we would only 2927 01:49:56,440 --> 01:49:58,520 have to pay for the amount of students 2928 01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,680 that we actually have. 2929 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,360 >> Isn't it enormously beneficial 2930 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:03,920 >> to the school district? So, can we cut 2931 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,240 their percentage of our tax base so 2932 01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:06,800 >> Yeah. 2933 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:07,640 >> we get some back? 2934 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:08,520 >> good idea. 2935 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,480 >> Yeah. 2936 01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:10,800 Right. Cuz they're getting a freebie 2937 01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,000 here. 2938 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,160 >> Only in the extent that you take 2939 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:16,760 somebody 2940 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,760 drop money from the sky. Uh 2941 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,000 >> Well, that's what they kept telling me 2942 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,350 when they came to planning zone. 2943 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,480 » The total taxes we collect from this 2944 01:50:28,480 --> 01:50:31,480 property a year is how much, Kurt? 2945 01:50:31,480 --> 01:50:32,840 >> A hundred for us? 2946 01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:33,240 >> Yeah. 2947 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,440 >> $25,000. 2948 01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:38,920 >> It's It's pretty hard to view that as 2949 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:39,760 >> a windfall. 2950 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,120 >> a significant 2951 01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:41,360 >> Yeah. 2952 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:42,600 >> And then, 2953 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,120 the the problem is all these services 2954 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,880 that need to be rendered up there to 2955 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,440 for the 25,000, if we had to provide 2956 01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:55,400 those services. 2957 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,400 >> But, isn't there substantial 2958 01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,400 area that is to be developed? So, this 2959 01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:01,960 is set up a framework for when that 2960 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:03,360 development occurs. 2961 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,960 >> Yes. Yes, it it could be more 2962 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,200 substantial over time, but 2963 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,160 what what we've got here is a situation 2964 01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:12,840 in which 2965 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,680 it will handle that. 2966 01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:15,120 >> Yeah. 2967 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:16,200 >> Where 2968 01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,920 there may be some spare money at some 2969 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:26,240 point there. But like it because the districts and things are not coming 2970 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,040 through us. They're coming directly from 2971 01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:28,960 the homeowner. 2972 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,120 >> Yeah. 2973 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,760 >> The school will certainly benefit, but 2974 01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,000 the idea that there's a huge 2975 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,840 value that's going to come to us 2976 01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:39,160 >> is 2977 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,680 >> Maybe someday it will be larger than it 2978 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,160 is now, but 2979 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,080 >> Okay, are we going to give them taxing 2980 01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,320 authority 2981 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:48,720 >> No. 2982 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,160 >> in our county? 2983 01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,120 >> Are we going to give fire taxing 2984 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,200 authority in our county 2985 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,200 >> Give their fire district taxing 2986 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:56,840 authority 2987 01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:58,480 over properties in our county. 2988 01:51:58,480 --> 01:52:00,120 >> That's Yes, they are. 2989 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:01,320 They're allowed to expand their 2990 01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:01,920 boundaries. 2991 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,200 >> Only by agreement 2992 01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:05,640 with the 2993 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:06,440 >> with our fire district. 2994 01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:08,160 right? Okay. 2995 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:09,640 >> Yeah. So, they don't get double taxed. 2996 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,280 We move back and let them do that and 2997 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:12,120 give the service. 2998 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,400 >> So, that would be an approval by the 2999 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,160 Cache County Fire District. 3000 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,400 >> And that's those 3001 01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,760 >> So, that if they if they go to taxation 3002 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,440 through through truth and taxation up 3003 01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:22,920 into this area 3004 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,200 uh that would only bite that would have 3005 01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,120 to then go by the approval of the fire 3006 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:28,520 district, the Cache County Fire 3007 01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:28,920 District. 3008 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,360 >> No, once we get once we move out of 3009 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:31,360 there 3010 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,000 we see that that territory and they take 3011 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,200 it over. 3012 01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,840 So, from then on the taxation, all of 3013 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,080 that is done by Weber Fire as a separate 3014 01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:42,200 taxing entity. 3015 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,480 >> So, it it's just a one-time 3016 01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:47,830 action for us. 3017 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,840 » Let me a little background there. 3018 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,000 >> And so does your water and sewer. 3019 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,120 >> Yeah. 3020 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,560 >> The reason that this is important 3021 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,800 David is because 3022 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,360 the original agreement was that they 3023 01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,560 would 3024 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,320 that we would pay them what they charge 3025 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,080 for fire. 3026 01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,360 Turns out they charge four times as much 3027 01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,600 for fire as we do. 3028 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:12,800 So, 3029 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,200 for example, of the $25,000 3030 01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,040 we collect, they wanted $19,000 of it 3031 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,160 just to do fire. 3032 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,080 So, in order to negotiate that, we had 3033 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,000 to figure out could they could they 3034 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,400 expand their territory on their for 3035 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:27,560 fire? 3036 01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:28,760 And 3037 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,240 went back and forth on that for a long 3038 01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,600 time and finally got good counsel from 3039 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,120 the Utah Association of Special 3040 01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,160 Districts. They said yes, they could do 3041 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,280 it. And 3042 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:39,360 there's just been a lot of back and 3043 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,480 forth with Weber County 3044 01:53:41,480 --> 01:53:43,480 uh on issues other than Development 3045 01:53:43,480 --> 01:53:45,040 Services. Development Services, I've 3046 01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,400 relied heavily on Development Services 3047 01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,960 to get to negotiate and to 3048 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:51,520 uh 3049 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,520 and to massage those 3050 01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:54,680 that uh 3051 01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,280 those design standards so that we were 3052 01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,640 protected. 3053 01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,040 So, I'll let them speak to that, but as 3054 01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,520 far as the other things, 3055 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,480 it was my understanding that we 3056 01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:05,840 needed to provide these things we 3057 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,720 couldn't provide them. Everything we can 3058 01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,080 provide, we're still providing. 3059 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,920 Everything that we can't provide and had 3060 01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,880 to either 3061 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,320 pay them to do 3062 01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,280 or that we had to have them expand 3063 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,160 territory so that we didn't have to tax 3064 01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,760 it or do it, 3065 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,600 in every one of those cases, it's not 3066 01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,160 going to cost us any more than we would 3067 01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,080 have paid ourselves. 3068 01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,240 And that was a concern all along. The 3069 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:30,600 only thing that's up in the air, I'll 3070 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,240 disclose this, is that the sheriff has 3071 01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,600 negotia- negotiated with their sheriff 3072 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,760 to do it on an hourly basis. 3073 01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:40,200 Since there's hardly anybody over there 3074 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,800 right now, he felt that that was the 3075 01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,280 most economical way to do it. 3076 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:49,560 That is not quantifiable right now. So, 3077 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,320 that that could change and we may have 3078 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,360 to renegotiate that at some point. 3079 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,400 But, that's the only one that that 3080 01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:02,910 doesn't have uh strict parameters. 3081 01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,520 » Okay. 3082 01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,040 >> I really compliment Kurt and development 3083 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,480 services for dealing with a very complex 3084 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,670 problem here. 3085 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,000 » I would like to say thanks to the 3086 01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,240 executive group because this is far more 3087 01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,400 than we've got than what we had before 3088 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,400 because we were being told we're going 3089 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,200 to make so much money and I just kept 3090 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,720 disagreeing with that. It just didn't work out. So, at least 3091 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:27,640 we're 3092 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:28,360 on a path. 3093 01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:32,390 >> Albeit crestfallen. 3094 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,280 » But crestfallen that there's not as much 3095 01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:35,160 money as you thought. 3096 01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,880 >> a cash cow like we were told. 3097 01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,000 Thank you. If if we want to continue, I 3098 01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,520 know Sandy was was deeply 3099 01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,440 interested in this, but I don't 3100 01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:46,880 I think she'd be fine if we passed it 3101 01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,470 tonight, too. 3102 01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,160 » Motion and a second and we've had some 3103 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,440 discussion. Any further 3104 01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,150 comment? 3105 01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,840 » I'd like to see it continued 3106 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:01,550 personally. 3107 01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,000 » Question. 3108 01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:04,840 For vote. 3109 01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:06,000 >> Okay. 3110 01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,520 Um all those in favor, say I. 3111 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,360 Any opposed? 3112 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:11,120 >> I'll say nay. 3113 01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,480 >> We have one opposed. 3114 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:14,480 Okay. 3115 01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,600 Thank you again. 3116 01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:17,920 Appreciation 3117 01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,190 to everyone involved. 3118 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,280 Okay. 3119 01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,160 Other business. 3120 01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:25,280 Um 3121 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:28,200 UIAC has their justice summit that is 3122 01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,320 on June 26th. 3123 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:32,880 Do we have any council members that are 3124 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,080 able to attend? 3125 01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:34,800 >> Where's that at? 3126 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,040 >> be going and I will be going and I will 3127 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,360 be going since we're part of the CJCC as 3128 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:39,720 well and the county attorney and the 3129 01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:40,520 county sheriff. 3130 01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:43,360 >> Okay. So, we do it It is 3131 01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:46,000 in Salt Lake. 3132 01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:47,640 >> Technically Murray, but yes. 3133 01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:49,800 >> Murray. 3134 01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:51,360 So, we do have representation from the 3135 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,400 county that will be attending and if 3136 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,480 others are able to attend, 3137 01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,840 please communicate with Andrew. 3138 01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:00,600 Um 3139 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:04,840 got a list of upcoming parades. 3140 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,960 Uh we need to make sure that we are 3141 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,720 registered for any of these parades if 3142 01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:12,440 we want to uh participate, so 3143 01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:13,200 uh 3144 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,480 do you guys know your calendars or 3145 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,360 I think we're planning for Do you have 3146 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,560 us registered for Hiram 3147 01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:20,560 and Lewiston? 3148 01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:21,960 >> Lewiston. 3149 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:22,720 Uh 3150 01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,920 the Lewiston organizer has not gotten 3151 01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:26,240 back to me, but the other ones I believe 3152 01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:27,320 I've registered you. 3153 01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,080 >> Cool. Thank you. And And is 3154 01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,040 >> all of these are registered? 3155 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:31,600 >> Hiram, D- 3156 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:33,920 >> No, no, just D- Hiram, so Newfield, 3157 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:35,320 Hiram, and then Lewiston. 3158 01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:35,560 >> Okay. 3159 01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:37,280 >> Those are the ones I've done so far. 3160 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,400 >> Okay. 3161 01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,800 Great. Is anyone able to attend Newfield 3162 01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,280 besides me? 3163 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,720 >> I'll be out of town. Sorry. 3164 01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,120 >> What side? 3165 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:49,520 >> Such a great parade. 3166 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,760 >> We've We've talked a lot about this. 3167 01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:53,800 >> Oh. 3168 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:54,800 Well, 3169 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,800 let's see. It might be a intimate. Might 3170 01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,320 just be parade of one. 3171 01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:00,000 Uh 3172 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,160 okay. 3173 01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,840 Um council member reports. 3174 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,120 We'll start Joanne. 3175 01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:06,640 >> I don't have anything. 3176 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:08,920 >> Okay. Nolan. 3177 01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:13,190 >> Um 3178 01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:14,600 we had a meeting with development 3179 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,680 services back to um some things on for 3180 01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:19,160 planning and zoning, so we've asked 3181 01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:20,920 planning and zoning 3182 01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,800 Brian at development services offices to 3183 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,600 work on our subdivision plan and water 3184 01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,000 that we had brought for us, 3185 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,600 tweak it a little bit, get that out. Um 3186 01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,360 I think given 3187 01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:34,960 what we're seeing by Mother Nature, it's 3188 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,560 very important to start considering what 3189 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,720 we're looking at there from from that. 3190 01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,600 We also talked about 3191 01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,000 um rental units in the county, what 3192 01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,640 we're looking at at that, coming up with 3193 01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:45,880 some things, so we've asked the 3194 01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,000 development services office 3195 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,400 now that Kirk can get out of their hair, 3196 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,160 maybe, yeah? 3197 01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,560 Let them work on some things, so 3198 01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:55,720 Now they'll still be busy with uh Powder 3199 01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,200 Mountain, but hopefully they can give us 3200 01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,160 some things on that, too. So, we'll be 3201 01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,560 seeing more of that, hopefully, in let 3202 01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:03,840 Planning and Zoning 3203 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,200 do that again and then bring it back to 3204 01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:06,600 us. I think that's an important thing we 3205 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,160 need to work on. 3206 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:08,960 That's all I have. 3207 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:10,440 >> Thank you. 3208 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,080 Um 3209 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,360 I 3210 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,440 uh was invited by Chief George, all of 3211 01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,160 us were invited by Chief George to uh 3212 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:21,280 attended a multi 3213 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:22,440 divisional 3214 01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,400 uh training that they had for the fire 3215 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:28,360 up Blacksmith Fork Canyon and 3216 01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:30,560 2 weeks a week ago? I I don't know. 3217 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:31,760 Time. 3218 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:35,480 10 days ago, probably. And um 3219 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:37,720 I went up there and it was 3220 01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,720 super interesting. They had um 3221 01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:43,920 he'll probably correct me, but I think 3222 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,440 they had So, they had representatives 3223 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,400 from the Forest um 3224 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,000 like the US 3225 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,360 Forest Department. 3226 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:51,960 >> Forest Service. 3227 01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:53,880 Services, thank you. Um 3228 01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:57,120 Fire Division. And then they had um 3229 01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,600 like Weber and uh they had all the way 3230 02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:03,680 down to Alpine. So, many different 3231 02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,880 departments and then our department. And 3232 02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,400 then they had um state agencies that 3233 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:09,920 were there, too. So, we had federal 3234 02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,080 agencies and our agencies and and state 3235 02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:13,840 agencies. They were all together and 3236 02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,040 they did training. And I thought what I 3237 02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:17,640 thought was really fascinating is they 3238 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:21,000 don't All these different agencies don't 3239 02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,280 even use the same radio frequencies when 3240 02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,920 they are radioing each other. So, it's 3241 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,760 like they have to learn, you know, if 3242 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,320 you if we have a disaster and we're 3243 02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,560 calling in these different agencies they 3244 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,800 don't want to have to learn day of how 3245 02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,400 to use each other's equipment or how to 3246 02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,480 even com- communicate with each other. 3247 02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,080 So, they are you know, having these 3248 02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:43,200 multi-departmental training so that they 3249 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:44,240 can 3250 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,960 have be prepared beforehand. Um and they 3251 02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:51,960 had videos of showing me how they were 3252 02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:56,160 um our our our department was guiding 3253 02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:59,040 the chopper with the bucket into the 3254 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,160 like inflatable swimming pools to fill 3255 02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:02,680 it up with water and how they could 3256 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,440 learn to do that. Um, now again before 3257 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:09,160 disaster, um, there was they they showed 3258 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,160 me all sorts of um 3259 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,640 different drills that they had learned. 3260 02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:15,680 I had dinner with them. Um, it was a 3261 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:17,280 really great experience and I enjoyed it 3262 02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:19,720 very much and um 3263 02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,240 that we have a great staff and I'm glad 3264 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,160 that we were able to uh see the training 3265 02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:25,040 and that we were able to host that 3266 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:26,480 training and they they really 3267 02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,400 appreciated and everyone um there 3268 02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:32,240 appreciates the county and I think that 3269 02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:33,280 all the different departments, I think 3270 02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,440 we won something or maybe it was Alpine, 3271 02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:37,480 I don't know. I'll say we won. Alpine 3272 02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,200 had such a fancy rig up there. It was 3273 02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,240 really fancy, but ours was humble and 3274 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,280 but it was okay. We still were really 3275 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,600 represented well. But, um, we really I 3276 02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:49,480 really enjoyed that. Going in the same 3277 02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,840 vein as fire, um 3278 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:54,600 we had a meeting where we had a 3279 02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:58,840 an informal workshop to listen to those 3280 02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,720 that are employed um in the fire 3281 02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:03,360 uh 3282 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:04,680 the different fire departments across 3283 02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,040 the county as they have expressed 3284 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,080 concern for um not being able to give 3285 02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,560 voice and and to be heard and it was 3286 02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:17,880 just a two hours of listening to them and their concerns that they 3287 02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:21,320 have with uh the fire district and uh 3288 02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,040 hopefully they felt that that they had 3289 02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:27,160 an opportunity to to speak and and we 3290 02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:29,960 listened to them and that their uh their 3291 02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,440 concerns were were taken into account. 3292 02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:34,480 So, that was last week and we have 3293 02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:36,440 another meeting with the fire department 3294 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:39,400 Thursday, fire district on Thursday. 3295 02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:41,000 So, lots going on with the fire 3296 02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:43,320 district. Um 3297 02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:43,880 Uh 3298 02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:45,840 other than that, I I don't have any 3299 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:46,960 additional additional 3300 02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,760 >> other thing um if you want to mention 3301 02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:50,280 the UAC call yesterday. 3302 02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,480 >> Yes, UAC call yesterday. We had an um 3303 02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:54,040 uh 3304 02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,520 Brandy had called an emergency UAC 3305 02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,880 um call for 3306 02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:00,600 I mean, we'll call it what it is. I 3307 02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,160 think all of us U sacks. It was just the 3308 02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:06,400 Yes, just the councils and commissions 3309 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:10,040 to talk about and get ahead of um 3310 02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:11,440 We know we've all witnessed what has 3311 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,920 happened across mountain with um Box 3312 02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:19,800 Elder and how we can learn more about 3313 02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:23,280 uh data centers and and learn about the 3314 02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:25,760 what they've experienced but also um 3315 02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:29,200 messaging in our communities and um I 3316 02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,920 think it's it was really good. They're 3317 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:33,480 going to put together um information and 3318 02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,120 have an informational session for us and 3319 02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:37,560 I look forward to that so we can all 3320 02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:41,440 learn um here within within uh the state 3321 02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,880 to see the impact that it has and and 3322 02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:45,480 the the need that we have for those but 3323 02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,040 also the need to learn about them and to 3324 02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:49,320 help with the messaging across the 3325 02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:50,640 state. Do you guys have anything else 3326 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:52,520 you want to 3327 02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:53,200 share about that? 3328 02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:54,520 >> send that email today. So 3329 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,400 >> Yeah, Brandy did. 3330 02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:57,680 >> Did she send it to everybody on the 3331 02:03:57,680 --> 02:03:58,560 council? 3332 02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,040 >> Uh 3333 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:01,160 >> Or just those that was on the 3334 02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:03,600 >> I know I got it. I don't know. 3335 02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:05,120 >> It was sent on Friday morning. 3336 02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,280 >> GOED communication and survey link 3337 02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,640 below. So Have we had Has anybody 3338 02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:10,040 >> They sent 3339 02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,080 >> taken that from Have we just Have any 3340 02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,120 one of us 3341 02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:14,400 Are we all taking it or is it supposed 3342 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:14,680 to 3343 02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:15,440 >> that to everybody. 3344 02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,080 >> Okay, so it doesn't it's not redundant 3345 02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:19,560 if we all take it on the council. Okay. 3346 02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,760 So yeah, the GOED 3347 02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,480 >> And they've given us another week to to 3348 02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:24,680 find to finish that. 3349 02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:25,320 >> Okay. 3350 02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,080 >> I got kicked out of it twice. 3351 02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:28,200 >> Oh, so it's 3352 02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:29,480 >> So we need a week then, right? 3353 02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:31,280 >> Mhm. 3354 02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:33,440 >> I started it twice but it 3355 02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:36,080 but I was in a bad place to 3356 02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:37,400 >> The service wasn't great. 3357 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:37,600 >> No. 3358 02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:38,600 >> Or you were in a bad place. 3359 02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,920 >> No, I was bailing hay and it was bouncy. 3360 02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:41,120 >> Oh. 3361 02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:42,080 >> I must have kept hitting the wrong 3362 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,520 button, I think. 3363 02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,320 I like your tractor head shock absorbers 3364 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,760 and comfort seat in it, so. 3365 02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:49,600 >> So, yeah, 3366 02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:50,960 we have a week we have until next 3367 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,480 Friday. 3368 02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:54,600 Um this Friday, excuse me, this Friday 3369 02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:57,720 to take that test that that survey, so 3370 02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,880 um the opportunity zone survey. 3371 02:04:59,880 --> 02:05:01,520 So, encourage everyone to hop on and 3372 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,080 take that survey. 3373 02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:04,000 Dave. 3374 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,280 >> Uh it was interesting in that uh 3375 02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:08,640 listening to that last uh Monday morning 3376 02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:10,360 or yesterday [snorts] morning, 3377 02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:13,640 it was really interesting. 3378 02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:17,680 It's just what uh ever what ever 3379 02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:19,880 comes out, 3380 02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,000 an announcement of anything, 3381 02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,800 it's just really interesting how 3382 02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,600 certain 3383 02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:30,920 factions grab it and try to just make it 3384 02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:32,560 like a bigger issue than really what it 3385 02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,000 is. And I'm not talking just DC, that 3386 02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:36,160 is. And I'm talking about anything that 3387 02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:38,040 comes out, it's just like 3388 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,840 you know, we got to blow it up before we really 3389 02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:43,240 look at it and 3390 02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:44,360 uh 3391 02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,360 I felt bad of for a lot of the our 3392 02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:51,920 fellow commissioners over there in uh Box Elder County as they're just trying to work through 3393 02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:55,080 things and they also have the same, 3394 02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:57,040 you know, respect for private property 3395 02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,040 rights as anybody else, but uh 3396 02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:00,880 anyway, it it it's tough. It's tough 3397 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,520 right now, but uh 3398 02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:05,480 >> I bumped with my [clears throat] desk. 3399 02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,800 >> You know, it's uh it's 3400 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:09,880 I think that I think if we go into a lot 3401 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,240 of these things and look at a lot of 3402 02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:12,600 this stuff just a little more 3403 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,800 open-minded, I think that uh 3404 02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,440 I think we'll get better results on 3405 02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:19,640 everything, whether it passes or not, 3406 02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:20,800 kind of thing. 3407 02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,240 We just need to 3408 02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:23,880 go through a little bit more open-minded 3409 02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,120 on everything that comes our way. But, 3410 02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:26,240 let's 3411 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,830 I uh 3412 02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,240 Anyway, as far as other reports, 3413 02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:33,840 uh 3414 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:35,560 there's a lot of moving parts right now, 3415 02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:38,000 it seems like, going on in everything. I 3416 02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:39,200 don't know if you guys feel the same 3417 02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:40,480 way. 3418 02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:41,840 Am I wrong? I mean, there's just a lot 3419 02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:42,800 of 3420 02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,320 you know, uh 3421 02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:45,760 I feel like we're in a rubber room 3422 02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:48,040 sometimes, cuz there's a lot of things 3423 02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:49,240 going on. 3424 02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,000 And uh 3425 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,560 and I I I wish we could 3426 02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,280 kind of just methodically kind of pull 3427 02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:59,320 some of those and maybe just 3428 02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,840 vegetate on those later and come up with 3429 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:02,840 some, 3430 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,640 you know, 3431 02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:06,480 not everything is as high priority as we 3432 02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:08,840 think it is sometimes, so 3433 02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,710 that's it. 3434 02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:13,400 » Mark. 3435 02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:15,840 >> Um nothing to report on as far as 3436 02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:17,240 actions 3437 02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:18,880 that have occurred since our last 3438 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,560 meeting, but just by way of things 3439 02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:21,640 happening, 3440 02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,120 um coming up, we've got 3441 02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:26,800 uh O&P meeting on Friday, 3442 02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:30,040 where we'll be discussing the airport 3443 02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:33,560 um authority interlocal agreement. 3444 02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:35,440 And if time permits, 3445 02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:37,040 one of the other 3446 02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:40,680 10 items on the pending agenda. 3447 02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,240 Um 3448 02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,320 and then on 3449 02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,120 uh Monday, 3450 02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,920 15th, um 3451 02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,280 the Northern Utah Outdoor Recreation 3452 02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:54,000 Initiative will be holding a workshop, 3453 02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:57,440 um just by way of update. That's a state 3454 02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:00,200 program that UAC appoints members of 3455 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:01,760 counties to, 3456 02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:04,320 and I one of the county 3457 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,960 representatives on that board. Ours is 3458 02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,080 five five counties in Northern Utah. 3459 02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:12,080 And so, just representing our county 3460 02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:13,640 there. 3461 02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,680 Um and I'll bring back some information 3462 02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:17,920 from that as to what we can do with 3463 02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:19,960 um what we 3464 02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:21,320 maybe recommendation on what we ought to 3465 02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:22,800 do with the funding that could be 3466 02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:26,760 available to us for outdoor recreation 3467 02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:29,760 programs or projects. 3468 02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:30,640 That's it. 3469 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:31,480 >> Thank you. 3470 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,320 >> I I have something after all. 3471 02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:35,000 >> Okay, thank you. Go ahead. 3472 02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,840 >> I I attended a a sort of a training with 3473 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,160 CAPSA and the other 3474 02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:41,120 um 3475 02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:43,600 agencies with that and it was very 3476 02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:46,040 informative and 3477 02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:47,960 they need funds. 3478 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:49,680 >> Was it USU? 3479 02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:51,520 >> No, it was here at the CAPSA. 3480 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:52,920 >> Oh, okay. 3481 02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,840 >> I and the brag there were several 3482 02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,360 agencies there but we met over there at 3483 02:08:58,360 --> 02:08:59,360 the 3484 02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:02,920 What do they call that place anyway? 3485 02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:05,840 That gray building on 10th. 3486 02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:08,720 North where they the 3487 02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:10,480 um 3488 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:12,240 the victims can go. 3489 02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:13,520 >> Mhm. 3490 02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:16,120 >> I don't know what it's called. 3491 02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:17,360 But he does but 3492 02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,600 >> It's it's on 10th North there's CAPSA's 3493 02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:20,120 headquarters. 3494 02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:23,240 >> Right. Right. That was it I think. Yeah. 3495 02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,280 >> That's great. 3496 02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:26,320 Yeah. 3497 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:27,840 >> Just invite Bryson to give them election 3498 02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:28,360 update. 3499 02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,240 >> For the primary election public and 3500 02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:33,160 primary make sure my office gets them by 3501 02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:35,280 8:00 p.m. 3502 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,760 Please vote. We only have about 3503 02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,840 3,000 people that already have already 3504 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,080 voted. 3505 02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:42,520 So it's usually it's a lot less than we 3506 02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,520 thought. 3507 02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:45,200 >> Oh, that's it. 3508 02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:47,080 >> Do you have early voting some days? 3509 02:09:47,080 --> 02:09:48,680 >> have early voting next week here at the 3510 02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:50,920 Cash County Administration Building. We 3511 02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:52,680 changed our hours to see if more people 3512 02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:56,470 can if they want to vote early. 3513 02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:58,400 Regular hours wouldn't have worked for 3514 02:09:58,400 --> 02:09:59,560 those that work so it's going to be 3515 02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:00,920 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. 3516 02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:02,720 >> Oh, say that again. 3517 02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:05,480 >> 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. 3518 02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:07,360 Yeah, Monday through Thursday of next 3519 02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,600 week since Tuesday. 3520 02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,320 All right, two weeks. 3521 02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:12,080 >> Two weeks. 3522 02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:14,320 >> There you go. 3523 02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:16,880 >> Oh, great. Yeah, Bryson's been really 3524 02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,680 busy. They're ready to go. So yeah, 3525 02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:21,680 let's let's get a lot of votes. Drive 3526 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:24,550 the turnout. 3527 02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,240 » Okay. 3528 02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:27,640 I'll accept a motion to adjourn. 3529 02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:29,240 >> So moved. 3530 02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:30,160 >> Second. 3531 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:31,880 >> Okay. All those in favor say aye. 3532 02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:33,600 >> Aye. 3533 02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:34,920 >> I didn't want to 3534 02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:37,320 leave Nolan hanging out there to dry, 3535 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:37,720 you know. 3536 02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:39,640 >> This This I wanted to take that survey 3537 02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:41,880 in the map to identify what area you're 3538 02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:43,360 in is broken. 3539 02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:45,000 >> Yeah, that's that's what I ran into. 3540 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:45,640 >> I did, too. 3541 02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:46,200 >> Twice. 3542 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:47,000 >> Yeah, so I mean 3543 02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:49,400 >> That's what I