[0:01] To order, Council meeting today [0:04] January 9th, 2026. [0:07] Like to recognize the absence of our [0:08] Council Chair, Goodlander. She is absent today [0:13] and [0:14] uh [0:15] Councilman [0:17] Keegan Garrity is not is not with us. [0:19] Um [0:20] We have the opening remarks will be [0:23] provided by Council Member Mark Hurd. [0:26] >> Right. [0:27] Thank you, Madam Chair. Just briefly [0:30] I've just been on my mind so I wanted to [0:32] phrase it hopefully simple [0:35] but [0:36] uh [0:37] community of terms that uh [0:41] I'm grateful for the freedoms we enjoy [0:43] in this land [0:44] and I would just encourage each [0:46] one in attendance or listening to [0:49] uh take the time. If you know a veteran, [0:51] give them a handshake, tell them thanks. [0:55] If you can still hug your mother, do so. [0:58] And with that, I'd like to uh continue [1:00] with the prayer. [1:01] >> Thank you. [1:06] » Our Father in heaven, we ask thee [1:09] for thy presence to abide here with us [1:10] this evening as we begin our County Council meeting. [1:14] We're grateful, Father, for the [1:16] opportunity we have as [1:18] citizens of our community to be able to [1:20] participate in the government that uh [1:23] prevails in this land. We're grateful, [1:24] Father, for the means and opportunities [1:27] that thou has blessed [1:29] our community with and we pray for [1:32] thy hand to continually be [1:34] in the lives of of our friends and [1:37] family around us. [1:38] We pray for protection of thy spirit to [1:40] be [1:41] with our law enforcement [1:45] and our [1:46] military service members. We ask thee to [1:49] continually watch over and protect them. [1:50] We pray, Father, for [1:52] preservation of this land and for the [1:53] protection of the freedoms [1:55] that are [1:57] enshrined in the Constitution. We pray [1:59] for [2:00] the clarity of thought to fulfill our [2:02] oath of office to protect and defend [2:04] this Constitution. [2:05] We pray, Father, for [2:09] >> [cough and clears throat] [2:09] >> We pray We offer a prayer of gratitude [2:11] for the [2:12] opportunities we have to know of thy [2:15] love for us and the opportunity we have [2:16] to serve one another. [2:18] We say this in the name of Jesus Christ. [2:19] Amen. [2:20] >> Amen. [2:21] >> And last, please rise and join me in the [2:23] Pledge of Allegiance. [2:28] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [2:31] United States of America, [2:34] and to the republic for which it stands, [2:37] one nation under God, indivisible, with [2:41] liberty and justice for all. [2:44] >> Thank you, Madam Chair. [2:47] » Thank you. [2:51] I will accept a motion to approve this [2:53] evening's agenda. [2:54] >> So moved. [2:55] >> Second. [2:55] >> We have a motion by council member [2:58] >> Gunnell. [2:59] >> [laughter] [3:00] >> Nolan. And And seconded by Dave. Um all [3:02] those in favor say aye. [3:04] >> Aye. [3:04] And I will accept a motion to [3:06] approve that both of the minutes for the [3:08] workshop on the 26th as well as the [3:11] council meeting minutes. [3:13] >> Move to approve. [3:14] >> And second. [3:15] >> And a second. Okay, any further [3:17] discussion? [3:18] Okay, all those in favor say aye. [3:20] >> Aye. [3:21] >> I will abstain. I was not in attendance [3:23] at that meeting. [3:24] Um now we'll move on to the report from [3:27] our county executive. [3:28] >> I I have no appointment, Madam Chair. I [3:32] would tell you that most of our time is [3:34] spent working with fire board issues and [3:36] trying to get um [3:38] progress in that area. [3:41] >> Okay, thank you. [3:44] Um we will move on to [3:47] um the items of special interest. Um [3:51] we have the um 2026 Cache County Royalty [3:57] um that is joining us, as you can see [3:59] here on the front row, and we have Trish [4:02] Gibbs, who is here um on that's going to [4:06] be introducing them. Uh I'm sorry, I [4:08] don't know which one Trish Trish Gibbs. [4:11] Would you please come and to the [4:13] microphone and um [4:15] present each of them is is that no? Yes? [4:18] >> I'm going to interview them. [4:19] >> Okay, we'll have them introduce [4:21] themselves. But, thank you for joining [4:24] us tonight. So, if you'll take turns [4:25] coming to the microphone, and it looks [4:27] like you're prepared. So, please. [4:30] >> Now, this is being broadcast through the [4:31] whole world. [4:33] So, [4:34] smile. [4:38] » Hello, everyone. My name is Reese Page, [4:41] and I'm your 2026 Cache County Fair and [4:43] Rodeo Queen. [4:45] My roots are in deep here in Cache [4:47] County. My parents are Derek and Jamie [4:49] Page, and you might even know my [4:50] grandparents, Daris and Dixie Page. [4:53] Um our fair and rodeo is being talked [4:56] about all over the country. I've had the [4:58] chance to talk with professional rodeo [5:01] athletes, and even world champions, and [5:03] they always have good things to say [5:05] about our event. More often than not, [5:07] they bring up our beautiful fairgrounds. [5:10] It's got lush trees, a wonderful river [5:12] flowing through it, and lots of shade, [5:15] while also still being in a convenient [5:18] location near town. [5:19] As well as they often bring up our [5:23] wonderful payout. We are one of the [5:25] highest paying out rodeos in per rodeo, [5:28] and because of this, we qualify to be in [5:31] the CINCH Governor's Cup circuit, which [5:34] attracts the best competition around, [5:36] and more times than not, world [5:38] champions. So, because Cache County Fair [5:42] and Rodeo is such a unique um [5:45] event due to its location and tough [5:48] competition. We would love for you guys [5:50] to come because it's truly something [5:51] that you won't want to miss out on. [5:54] >> Thank you. [5:56] >> [clears throat] [5:58] >> Hello everyone. I'm Hadley Thompson. I'm [6:00] the Cache County First Attendant Queen. [6:02] I am so excited to be here. [6:05] Cache County Rodeo is one event you [6:07] won't want to miss. [6:09] Last year we welcomed more than 81,000 [6:13] people. [6:14] Filled every seat and sold out all four [6:17] nights. If we had more bleachers, we're [6:20] confident they would be filled, too. [6:23] We also had over 700 contestants entries [6:27] last year. [6:28] Bringing top talent and exciting [6:30] competition to the arena. [6:33] Join us August 5th through the 7th for [6:35] an unforgettable experience. [6:38] Tickets range from $15 to $27 depending [6:43] on the night seating. [6:46] Depending on the night and whether you [6:48] choose covered seating. [6:50] We'd love to see you there. Get your [6:52] tickets early. They tend to go fast. [6:55] Thank you. [6:59] » I'm Breanna Bassett and I am the Cache [7:01] County Fair and Rodeo Second Attendant [7:04] Queen and I love the Cache County Fair [7:07] and Rodeo. I grew up showing goats at [7:09] the fair and going to the night every [7:11] rodeo with my parents Justin and Carly [7:14] Bassett. [7:15] And let me tell you, not only is the [7:17] rodeo athletes one of my favorite parts, [7:20] but also the entertainment we have. We [7:23] have Parker Haviland coming this year [7:25] bringing his beautiful big black horses [7:29] and they all hitch together and they [7:31] pull a wagon. And they work hard all [7:34] year long to bring us something [7:35] different each year. Thank you. [7:42] » Hi, I My name is Dixie Christiansen. I'm [7:44] the Cache County Junior Queen. [7:47] I'm from Richmond, Utah. My parents are [7:48] Timothy and Denise Christiansen. [7:51] Because of our outstanding rodeo, [7:54] livestock, vendors, and carnival, we [7:56] were voted best of Northern Utah's [7:58] annual event this year, which will be [8:00] the sixth time in a row. [8:02] So, you should come and enjoy the best [8:04] week of the summer at the Cache County [8:05] Fair and Rodeo. Thank you. [8:09] » Hello everyone. I'm Marley Hall, your [8:12] Cache County 2026 Princess. [8:15] Being Being part of a royalty looks like [8:18] res- representing our rodeo at rodeos [8:21] and events in lots of areas, including [8:24] Preston, Lewiston, and Hyrum. [8:26] It means waving to the crowd [8:28] from Lewiston and Hyrum. It means [8:31] Sorry. It means waving to the crowd from [8:33] horseback in 4th of July parades, [8:35] participating in buzz runs, being on the [8:38] radio, [8:39] thanking sponsors, and taking part in [8:41] fun royalty photoshoots. Royalty members also help put on Cache [8:48] County Fair and Rodeo itself. From [8:50] carrying flags and moving cows to [8:52] helping with the mutton bustin', [8:54] throwing prizes from the truck, and even [8:56] signing autographs for little kids. [9:00] It's It's a summer full of service, [9:02] friendships, confidence, and a [9:04] unforgettable memories. [9:06] We would love for you to come to our [9:09] Sorry. For you to come and experience [9:12] our queen contest this next year on May [9:15] 29th. Thank you. [9:20] » My name's Indiana Earl, and I'm the [9:22] junior the Cache County Junior Princess. [9:25] My parents are Clayton and Katelyn Earl. [9:27] If you come to the Cache County Rodeo [9:29] this year, you will see our special [9:31] specialty act, Jessica Blair folks, [9:33] riding her beautiful white horses, [9:35] showing off her Roman riding her trick [9:38] riding skills. Thank you. [9:41] >> Thank you. Um as a council, we have a [9:45] proclamation. If it's okay, we'll read [9:47] it to you right now. [9:49] Um this is a proclamation recognizing [9:51] and honoring the 2026 Cash County Rodeo [9:53] Royalty. [9:55] Whereas, the Cash County Rodeo Rodeo [9:57] Royalty serve as the official public [9:59] faces of Cash County promoting our rich [10:02] Western heritage and agricultural [10:04] traditions throughout the community and [10:06] the state of Utah. And whereas, the [10:09] members of the royalty court demonstrate [10:11] outstanding leadership, exceptional [10:13] poise, and elite horsemanship serving as [10:15] excellent role models for the youth of [10:17] Cash Valley. And whereas, their [10:19] dedication and hard work significantly [10:21] support the success and promotion of the [10:23] annual Cash County Fair and Rodeo [10:26] bringing our community together. [10:28] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the [10:30] Cash County Council does hereby [10:32] recognize and honor the members of the [10:34] 2026 Cash County Rodeo Royalty Court. [10:38] Reese Page, Cash County Rodeo Queen. [10:41] Hadley Thompson, first attendant. [10:43] Breanna Bassett, second attendant. Dixie [10:45] Christensen, junior queen. Marley Hall, [10:48] princess. Indiana Earl, junior princess. [10:51] And thank them for their dedicated [10:53] service, leadership, and excellent [10:55] representation of Cash County throughout [10:58] their tenure. [11:00] I will accept a motion to approve the [11:02] proclamation. [11:03] >> So moved. [11:04] >> Second. [11:05] >> We've got jumping at the bit. [11:08] All those in favor say I. [11:09] >> I. [11:11] >> Thank you so much for representing Cash [11:13] County and for everything that you do [11:15] with such poise. And what are you Would [11:18] you rather do, ride a horse or come and [11:20] talk to the county council? [11:23] >> [laughter] [11:29] » Thank Thank much. Uh would you [11:32] >> [applause] [11:32] >> Round OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE. [11:36] » [applause] [11:38] >> ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW WE WOULD [11:40] LIKE TO GIVE THE opportunity to have a [11:42] photo op for the royalty and and [11:46] 2-minute recess for them to come and get [11:48] a a picture. Um so, if everyone could [11:51] just [11:52] breathe easy for a minute and they can [11:53] come up and take a picture here. [11:56] With the council? [11:56] >> We'll settle that on the way. [11:58] >> Yeah, you guys can come up here. We [11:59] don't need to be in it. [12:00] >> Can I get a small picture with you guys [12:02] there, too? [12:03] >> You can get a picture with us here if [12:05] you'd like. [12:05] >> [laughter] [12:05] >> I was going to put them in the chairs. [12:10] » Okay. [12:12] >> Go all the way over. [12:13] >> Well, we don't want to be blocking [12:14] >> You're [12:15] >> No, we do want you blocking the sign. [12:22] » What's the average weight of those hats? [12:24] They look like they got a lot of prom moms out there. [12:46] >> Could you guys see? [12:51] » Thank you so much for coming to see us. [12:53] Thank you for all you [12:56] Um we give it to you and we have copies [13:00] Oh, we have multiple copies. So, we'll [13:02] go ahead and distribute. Well, you can [13:03] take that one and we'll provide copies. [13:05] >> Well, thank you so much. [13:05] >> Thank you. [13:06] Thank you for coming to see [13:07] us. [13:11] » [clears throat] [13:16] » You're welcome to stay for the remainder [13:18] of our meeting. [13:19] >> You'll just love it. [13:29] » Thank you. [13:30] so much. [13:30] >> Thank you. [13:32] >> Good luck. We'll see you guys at the [13:33] rodeo on August 5th and [13:36] >> through the 8th. [13:37] >> Thank you. [13:38] >> It'll be great again. [13:40] >> Thank you. [13:41] Thanks for all you do. [13:48] Aw, this [13:49] meeting got a lot less sparkly. [13:52] We will [13:53] >> they're good people, okay? [13:55] They're nice. You're doing good. [13:56] >> It's not sparkly. [13:57] Um continuing with our [14:00] agenda, [14:02] we will have a presentation for VAWA, [14:04] VOCA, and [14:08] presented by County Attorney Dane [14:10] Murray, as well as the Cache County [14:12] Deputy Attorney Andrew Crane, Sarah [14:15] Owen, Cache County Victim Advocate [14:17] Supervisor, Scott Bodily, Cache County [14:19] Children's Justice Center Coordinator. [14:22] Andrew, thank you. [14:30] » Andrew Crane with the County Attorney's [14:31] Office. We'll give it a moment to decide [14:33] to pull that. Part of the as you're well [14:35] aware, one of the requirements for the [14:37] VAWA grant is to do a presentation to [14:39] the council uh twice a year basically, [14:41] so this is part of that grant [14:43] requirement. [14:51] Most of what I'm going to go over today [14:52] you've already seen, so if you have any [14:53] questions, feel free to jump in, but [14:55] really here's uh the mission of the County Attorney's [14:58] Office. I'm not going to read that. [14:59] You're well aware of that. There's been [15:00] no change. Basically, we're here to [15:03] uphold and defend the Constitution [15:05] as best we can to make sure rights of [15:06] all are protected. [15:08] Um going over the VAWA over overview, [15:12] essentially what we have um again, [15:13] there's been no change to what we have [15:15] going on. Um there are three SVEU [15:17] prosecutors. You have one in each [15:19] district court, and myself, Josh Cohn, [15:21] Mark Winkel, spread out among the judges [15:23] there. They're also two of our [15:25] investigators are on the ground as well, [15:26] Nick and Nate. And so, give a shout out [15:28] to them. They've been very helpful for [15:30] us in helping us get and follow up on [15:31] cases. I've used them often, and they [15:34] are an indispensable resource in getting [15:36] follow up done on the cases. [15:39] Um as far as the uh current grant year [15:42] award that we are in, 2024-2025, it's a [15:44] 2-year cycle. Again, there hasn't been [15:46] any changes to this. These are some of [15:47] the requirements we have to do. Again, [15:49] talk about the We do semi-annual and [15:51] annual reporting to UOVC, and we have to [15:54] track our time and hours what we [15:56] with what we spend on the VAWA cases. [15:58] Um [16:00] that [16:01] Just I guess just a note for [16:04] Coming up next year, we'll be in the [16:05] grant cycle again. I'm not sure what the [16:07] funding will look like when it comes to [16:09] going through this process again next [16:10] year. I'm sure we'll have more [16:12] discussions as that comes up, but given [16:13] the track record with what's happening [16:15] on the federal side of things, I [16:16] wouldn't I would not be shocked if what [16:18] is available if we are granted anything [16:20] would be lower again as well. So, just [16:22] to give you a heads up on that. [16:24] Uh just want to throw out some [16:25] information on what uh we've have [16:28] reported. Uh you'll see what we reported [16:30] back in 2024 with the number of cases [16:33] that were investigated by our [16:33] investigators and cases received and [16:35] reviewed by the prosecutors. Kind of see [16:37] the differences there between 2024 and [16:39] 2025. For the most part, everything has [16:41] gone up. [16:43] Um so, it has been a busy uh time for us [16:46] in the office [16:48] um with handling everything that uh we [16:50] handle. So, unless there are any [16:52] questions, that is what I have, and I'll [16:54] be followed by Sarah. [16:55] >> Is there any reason to account for the [16:58] domestic violence to be [17:00] to have that dramatic of an increase? [17:02] >> It is. That was a big increase. Um [17:04] I honestly don't know. It's just really [17:06] ebbs and flows. I don't know if Dana I [17:07] don't know if you have anything you want [17:08] to share on that as well, but [17:10] >> I'm going to speak a little bit, and I [17:11] think what I'm going to talk about will [17:13] probably be I I I'd answer for right [17:15] now, but [17:16] >> Okay, I will hold that. [17:20] » Thank you, [17:21] any other questions? [17:27] » Thank you. [17:37] All right, so this is a little bit [17:38] overview of the Cash County Victim [17:39] Services. Um, these are our three [17:41] different funding sources. Um, so my [17:43] reporting will be about the Voca, the [17:45] Victims of Crime Act and the UVSP, the [17:47] Utah Victim Services Provider. So we are [17:50] funded by federal grants, state grants [17:52] and then our county [snorts] [17:54] county funds. [17:56] Um, same with Andrew, as he said, uh, we [17:58] haven't had a we haven't been provided a [17:59] lot of information about what the grants [18:01] uh, financial side is going to look [18:02] like, um, but I think that is the [18:04] continual trend that we've heard for [18:05] last many, many years. Um, and so we [18:07] will report to you um, as soon as we [18:09] hear that information, um, but I think [18:11] that is to be expected, um, of a [18:13] decrease in in our at least federal [18:15] funding at this time. [18:18] Um, just again, our personnel overview, [18:20] uh, we have six full-time victim [18:21] coordinators. Uh, together we cover the [18:23] district, juvenile and specialty courts [18:25] in the first district. Uh, our district [18:27] court, uh, Sarah, Tonya, Jenny and [18:29] Caitlin, uh, we are all on the Voca [18:31] grant. Uh, the juvenile court is Candace [18:33] and that is our UVSP grant. District and [18:36] juvenile court is Linda, um, she is our [18:38] bilingual Spanish speaking advocate. Um, [18:41] Caitlin covers our specialty courts, [18:42] that is mental health and and drug [18:44] court. And all of our [18:45] coordinators cover our on-scene [18:47] response. Um, and we have an executive [18:48] assistant, Jennifer, um, who is critical [18:50] to our team. [18:53] I know there's a lot of numbers, you're [18:54] provided a lot of numbers, um, [18:57] but this is our quarter two numbers, um, [18:59] of this grant cycle. So from October [19:01] 25th to December 25th, um, our federal [19:04] reporting, these are all the categories [19:06] that we have to report. Um, so we track [19:09] all of this information on a quarter [19:11] daily, but on a quarterly basis that we [19:13] turn over um, for our reporting. Um some [19:16] of the numbers at the very top um that I [19:17] think are helpful to just get a tiny perspective. Um our total new [19:22] victims, you know, every quarter we've [19:23] got new victims, but every quarter we [19:26] also serve [19:27] all of our victims at the same time. And [19:30] so in this quarter uh we had 301 new [19:32] victims, but over our overall our [19:34] victims we served were 654. [19:37] What's really hard is this is also how [19:39] the federal guidelines want us tracking [19:41] these cases. Um I have a personal [19:44] opinion um that I think this doesn't [19:47] equate for the true number of victims [19:48] that we work with during these quarters. [19:51] Um I think they are a lot larger. And so [19:52] I just wanted to to offer that [19:54] perspective on it. Um but as you can [19:55] see, you know, we go through what we [19:57] call persons and property crimes um and [19:59] we serve victims of all across the [20:01] board. [20:03] Um same for quarter three. This is [20:05] January um 25 to Oh, shoot. 26. I I'm messed up. I'm so sorry. January 26 [20:11] to March 26. Um same thing we've had 275 [20:15] new victims and our overall victims are [20:16] 688. [20:18] Um [20:19] and every category ebbs and flows every [20:21] quarter, um but that's our numbers for [20:24] quarter three. We're just finishing up [20:26] quarter four, which will end um at the [20:28] end of June, and then we start our year [20:30] two cycle um of these grants. Okay. [20:35] So I just provided you guys with a lot [20:36] of numbers, um but I think numbers don't [20:39] equate to every single person. So I [20:41] wanted to give you an example of a [20:43] person in our community and what her [20:46] story was like. Um so this is a case of [20:48] walking in their shoes. Um this is a [20:50] defendant Jerry Rice. [20:53] I want to walk you through the many many [20:55] years that this young girl, as you can [20:57] see, this case started out when she was [20:58] 6 to 7 years old. [21:00] Um [21:01] an incident happened um where she was a [21:03] victim uh that she was sexually [21:05] assaulted. Um it was a person that was [21:07] in the home. It was a family member. Um, [21:10] and she was really, really young. That [21:12] really shapes a young person. Um, and [21:14] when it's somebody that's living in the [21:15] home, that also brings a lot of fear of [21:18] how can I report what happened to me? [21:20] So, as you can see, the disclosure [21:21] happened when she was 14 years old. Um, [21:23] she disclosed to law enforcement that [21:25] she had been sexually assaulted. Um, she [21:27] was interviewed at the Children's [21:28] Justice Center. Law enforcement did [21:30] extensive interviewing um, to be able to [21:32] gather evidence for this case. Case was [21:35] then turned over to the County [21:36] Attorney's Office, and it was filed when [21:38] she was 15 years old in 2019. [21:41] He was charged with five counts of rape [21:42] of a child and five counts of sodomy on [21:44] a child. [21:45] We went through then through the court [21:46] process. So, that was ranging from 15 [21:49] years old to 17 years old from 2019 to [21:51] 2022. [21:53] We had 36 pre-trial hearings. We had a [21:55] four-day jury trial. Um, and this girl's [21:58] testimony will be a vivid memory in my [22:00] life probably forever. [22:03] Um, [22:04] the moment she got on that stand, [22:06] I think it impacted the jury instantly. [22:08] You could tell the fear and the the [22:12] anxiousness that she had to go through [22:14] in telling her story to these random [22:17] people that she doesn't know who they [22:18] are. She's got Jerry Rice right in front [22:20] of her in the courtroom. Um, it was a [22:22] terrifying an experience for a young, person. [22:26] So, at 17 years old in 2022, um, he was [22:29] found guilty um, of all 10 counts. He [22:32] was then sentenced to 50 years to life [22:35] in the Utah State Prison. [22:37] He then appealed his conviction um, and [22:39] went through the appeals process. And [22:41] then, you know, he went to prison as [22:42] well. Um, and then at 19 years old in [22:45] 2024, um, the appeals the Utah Court of [22:48] Appeals denied that appeal. Um, now she [22:52] faces continuation [22:54] uh, with any potential uh, parole [22:56] hearings. She will then have an [22:58] opportunity to speak at the Board of [22:59] Pardons and Parole. [23:01] >> [laughter] [23:01] >> I hope this is a helpful perspective of [23:03] just unfortunately one person's story [23:06] out of those as you can see 600 plus [23:08] people that we deal with on a daily [23:09] basis here in our community. [23:11] Um but I I hope this can help you just [23:13] know [23:15] um how important this work is to be able [23:17] to help every single one of these [23:18] people. [23:19] So, that's my report. If anybody has any [23:21] questions or anything? [23:25] » Thank you. [23:26] >> These are this is an example of one that [23:28] did [23:30] >> Go all the way. [23:31] >> They came through and was strong and and [23:34] uh there's a but there's a lot of fear [23:36] out there. The the quiet ones that we [23:39] I guess just don't go through that [23:41] process. [23:42] >> Absolutely. And there's a there's [23:43] >> There's a lot of there's a lot of pain [23:45] that goes with it. [23:45] >> lot of pain to come forward. There's a [23:46] lot of pain to not come forward. Um and [23:49] we meet victims where they're at um [23:51] because it's still pain no matter what [23:52] it is. Mhm. [23:55] >> Thank you, Sarah. [23:55] >> Yeah, absolutely. Okay, thank you all. [23:59] » [clears throat] and cough] [24:15] » Uh my name is Scott Bodily. I'm the [24:17] director at the [24:18] Cache [snorts] Rich Children's Justice [24:20] Center. [24:20] I don't have a fancy [24:23] um media package to put up but I've got [24:25] some information I wanted to be able to [24:27] provide [24:28] uh for everybody here. Uh just as a [24:30] matter of clarification for those who [24:32] are unfamiliar with the Children's [24:34] Justice Center, [24:35] uh we are the evidence collection point [24:37] for a child abuse investigation [24:40] for [24:41] um Cache County, Rich County, and then [24:44] we work also cooperatively with Box [24:46] Elder County to provide medical [24:48] services. Medical services [24:50] are provided by contract through the [24:52] Primary Children's Medical Center. [24:54] Um [24:56] so they work at the CJC but they do not [24:58] work for the CJC. [25:00] Uh specifically with the idea of [25:02] creating a child-friendly environment um [25:06] where a child abuse victim can come and [25:09] talk about their experience [25:11] in a way that can be introduced into [25:12] court [25:13] for a criminal investigation. [25:16] Um [25:18] wanted to talk quickly about some [25:19] numbers. [25:21] Um [25:24] We talk about the number of interviews [25:26] that we do. [25:27] Um [25:28] And a lot of times I last year I [25:30] determined that that doesn't catch [25:32] everything that happens at the [25:33] Children's Justice Center. [25:35] So, for example, [25:36] in 2025 we had 222 interviews. [25:40] But I started looking at all the people [25:42] that come in to support that child. [25:45] Um and we started tracking those numbers [25:47] to to see who is coming in and receiving [25:50] services or referrals or just helping [25:53] that. That's law enforcement. That's our [25:55] multi-disciplinary team. [25:57] Um we started tracking that in March of [25:59] last year, and by the time the year was [26:01] over we had had 1,848 people come [26:03] through the Children's Justice Center. [26:06] Um using that metric our metrics for [26:09] this year, [26:12] um we already have 1,216 [26:15] that have come through the Children's [26:16] Justice Center for 2026. Okay? [26:20] Uh we've seen a significant increase in [26:23] our caseload. [26:25] Um Working cooperatively with the County [26:27] Attorney's Office, we identified [26:30] a potential issue as far as [26:32] understanding with the turnover that law [26:34] enforcement has experienced, that DCFS [26:35] has experienced in how to bring cases or [26:39] when it's appropriate to bring cases to [26:41] the Children's Justice Center. [26:43] Um so, we did a training in January with [26:45] our multi-disciplinary team. [26:49] Immediately after that training, we saw [26:50] a huge increase in numbers. I'm not [26:52] going to say that the training was all [26:54] of it, [26:55] um but just as an example, [26:57] >> [snorts] [26:58] >> in 2025, we were averaging 20 interviews [27:01] a month. [27:03] So far in 2026, we're averaging 27 a [27:06] month. [27:07] Um [27:10] in 2025, we averaged 190 people coming [27:13] through the center. In 2026, we're [27:15] averaging 243 people per month [27:19] through the center. [27:20] Um [27:23] That That all represents [27:26] the work that we are doing with our [27:28] community to be able to help [27:31] um attorneys prosecute cases, to help [27:34] our multidisciplinary team investigate [27:36] cases, [27:37] and to be able to help [27:39] um kids heal through terrible [27:42] experiences. [27:43] Um [27:48] There's a lot of other numbers that we [27:50] could talk about, but I don't want to [27:51] take up all of the time, and and I know [27:53] that Dane has some things to present as [27:55] well. [27:56] Um so with that as a backdrop, I will [27:59] entertain any questions [28:01] if uh if anybody has some. [28:07] » Thank you, Scott. [28:12] » I I do have something, but we are at [28:14] time for our public hearings. So [28:16] >> Um I think we can go ahead and finish this, [28:20] and then we'll move on to the public [28:21] hearing. Thank you. [28:29] » Dane Murray, Cache County Attorney. [28:31] And the reason um [28:34] I decided to present and have Scott [28:36] present because we're required twice a [28:37] year to have a presentation on VOCA and [28:39] VAWA, but I thought this that's a good [28:42] time to just [28:43] update the council, the executive on [28:46] what our office is is working on, where [28:49] we're at for the year. And in [28:51] June just so happens to coincide with [28:54] our our number tracking cycle ending for [28:57] the previous year. That's kind of an [28:59] archaic um [29:01] goes back to the how we had rotated um [29:04] our special victims prosecutors in the [29:06] past on the 3-year cycle. So, we've [29:07] tracked cases on a 3-year cycle. We had [29:10] grant reporting that was that was due at [29:13] the end of June. And so, that's where [29:15] we've tracked. So, from June 1st of each [29:17] year to the next year on May 31st. And [29:20] so, um [29:22] up here we can you can see the the total [29:24] number of cases for 3-year periods [29:27] beginning in 2014 and the average number [29:29] of cases per year. [29:31] Um [29:33] And then you see what we had for that [29:35] same period in just 1 year in 2025-2026. [29:39] So, we had 643 cases, which is [29:42] um [29:43] our our 3-year average from 2022 to 2025 [29:46] was 410. Last year we were about um 530. [29:50] So, we had a a little more than 100 [29:53] additional cases year over year. [29:56] Um but over our 3-year average, we're almost at half in [29:59] um [30:00] more than half in 1 year of what our [30:03] 3-year average our 3-year total was. [30:05] Um I think that [30:07] I I guess that there's some good news in [30:08] this. Our total number of cases [30:10] submitted by law enforcement went down [30:13] um a pretty significant amount from 300 [30:15] 3,029 [30:17] in 2024 to 2025 to 200 2,000 [30:22] 659. [30:24] Um so, there is a de- decrease there, [30:26] but there's an increase in our special [30:29] victims cases. Um and that that includes [30:32] what's what's part of VAWA, but also [30:34] includes our internet crimes against [30:37] children. It includes our sex offender [30:39] registry violations, elder abuse, um [30:42] all all of those other person crimes [30:44] that we categorize as special victims. [30:47] Um [30:49] And so, [30:50] I I [30:51] Before I move on to to this um [30:55] this next thing that we're working on, I [30:56] just wanted to address the question that [30:57] the the co-chair asked. I think one of [31:00] the the reasons you're seeing our [31:01] investigators numbers go up is because [31:04] we have that resource and law [31:06] enforcement, when we're receiving that [31:08] many cases, it means law enforcement's [31:10] receiving that many and having to [31:12] investigate prior to sending for [31:13] prosecution. [31:15] And you hear from our local agencies, [31:17] from their their victim special victims [31:19] investigators, and they are carrying [31:22] case loads that are about at their the [31:24] maximum that a investigator can handle. [31:27] Um you talk to guys that were working 15 [31:30] years ago who are now supervisors and [31:31] just saying that was everyone is at the [31:34] maximum I ever had, and that's just how [31:35] they're living their lives. And [31:38] um when you get to that point, you're [31:40] Luckily, the county attorney's office [31:42] has those [31:43] VAWA investigators that's able to to [31:46] assist. And I think that's what we're seeing is our year-over-year case [31:49] loads went up, and we've had a lot of [31:50] turnover in law enforcement. Um there's [31:53] a lot of younger investigators, and so [31:55] we have two really experienced [31:56] investigators in-house who are able to [31:58] help be a force multiplier for our local [32:00] law enforcement agencies. And I I think [32:02] that's a a really good benefit that [32:05] we're able to to fund through the VAWA [32:07] grant to have those resources for all of our agencies, cuz that's that's [32:11] something that touches every single [32:13] citizen here potentially. [32:15] Um [32:16] they work with every agency in the [32:17] county, from the sheriff's office to [32:19] North Park and [32:21] Smithfield and Logan City. [32:23] Um [32:25] And then I just wanted to to give an [32:27] update um [32:29] on on something that [32:30] our office is working on with CAPSA and [32:33] our local law enforcement. Um we have [32:36] what's called the domestic violence [32:37] response team in in Cache Valley and [32:39] it's a multi-disciplinary team made up [32:41] of law enforcement, prosecution, victim [32:43] services, and our community-based [32:44] organizations. We meet monthly um, [32:48] and and work on those relationships and [32:50] how we respond to domestic violence. [32:52] For the last year, um, [32:55] Michaela Hansey from from CAPSA and [32:57] myself have been working on implementing [32:59] what's called a domestic violence [33:00] high-risk team. That's become the [33:03] national standard for responding to [33:05] domestic violence and it's it's an [33:07] evidence-based [33:08] um, [33:09] program developed by the the Geiger [33:11] Institute, which is a a national [33:14] nationally recognized organization that started as a domestic violence [33:17] shelter similar to CAPSA and it expanded [33:19] into research and [33:21] um, [33:22] it's to identify the most dangerous [33:24] cases of intimate partner violence in a [33:26] community and then come up with a [33:27] coordinated response. [33:29] Um, [33:30] and [33:31] it's it's been shown by research um, [33:34] that domestic violence homicides, not [33:37] all of them, but a very good portion of [33:39] them are predictable and preventable [33:41] using lethality assessment. Um, [33:45] in Utah we have we use what's called the [33:47] LAP. It's the um, [33:50] just a lethality assessment protocol. [33:52] Um, [33:53] Cache County has going back many years [33:56] because of the work CAPSA's done and [33:58] because of the buy-in from our law [33:59] enforcement agencies, we've been using [34:01] that here. Um, just recently it was [34:04] mandated by the state that all law [34:06] enforcement agencies in the state use [34:08] that. But that's something that we've [34:09] been on the forefront of long prior to [34:11] being mandated. [34:13] So, we're we're working on on [34:15] implementing this. There's going to be [34:16] some memorandums of understanding [34:18] between the different agencies and [34:19] CAPSA. We're going to use those [34:22] um, lethality assessments to identify [34:24] which cases of intimate partner violence [34:26] that are coming to law enforcement have [34:28] the most potential for lethality in the [34:30] future and then use the resources we [34:33] have between our our different agencies [34:36] and our community organizations to help [34:39] get resources to those victims to try to [34:42] facilitate [34:44] better cooperation [34:46] because a lot of times it's just not [34:48] knowing what's out there for help to get [34:50] out of those situations [34:52] to help identify further investigation [34:55] and to help inform both the prosecutor [34:58] and people other people in the court [35:00] process of the danger this individual [35:02] poses to the public and so that's [35:04] something we're working on hopefully [35:06] within the next few months we'll we'll [35:09] we've had meetings we have a MOU that's [35:14] almost ready to to go out to the [35:15] different agencies for their their [35:17] review but I I really think that's going [35:19] to be a have a big impact on how we [35:21] respond to domestic violence in the [35:22] community and I I think it's a testament [35:25] to the relationships that we have um [35:28] just today we had the northern Utah [35:30] conference to end violence which is [35:32] co-sponsored by Utah State University [35:34] and CAPSA and that was a really great [35:35] opportunity to see all those different [35:37] groups come together [35:39] Sarah and I had an opportunity to speak [35:41] on the uh [35:43] a panel at the end with [35:46] Jill Anderson who's the CEO of CAPSA [35:48] with [35:49] Assistant Chief Houli and with the head [35:51] of New Hope who does the the sexual [35:53] assault nurse exams in in Cache County [35:57] now [35:58] and we were able to talk about the the [36:00] relationships that have been built over [36:01] years here and how that's benefiting [36:04] victims in our community and and really [36:07] that benefits our entire community [36:09] because at any given time someone could [36:11] end up [36:12] this this doesn't um [36:17] just limit itself to certain groups of [36:18] individuals anyone could end up being a [36:20] victim or knowing someone who's been [36:22] victimized and needs the help of CAPSA [36:24] or needs the help of law enforcement or [36:26] the county attorney's office, or any of [36:28] those other organizations. And I I think [36:30] we all should be proud that our [36:31] community has come together over the [36:32] years and built such a effective um [36:36] program here in the valley. [36:39] Any questions for me about our [36:40] department in general? [36:42] >> I uh [36:44] as the [36:46] it was alluded that as the deep possible [36:48] decrease in federal funding [36:51] >> [clears throat] [36:53] >> how are we going to make that up to be [36:54] able to keep up with [36:55] uh [36:56] this case? [36:58] >> And I I I hope that we don't lose that [37:00] federal funding, but I think that's the [37:01] reality that that we're in and there's [37:03] going to have to be [37:05] tough decisions to be made, whether it's [37:08] what what level of service can we [37:09] continue offering the public or [37:12] um [37:12] it it [37:14] Yeah, I think that's that's something [37:15] that's going to all throughout the [37:17] country um that's it's been a real [37:19] benefit to have some of those federal [37:21] grants to help victim services and [37:23] prosecution, cuz those are [37:25] um and law enforcement, law enforcement [37:27] agencies also receive those funds. And [37:28] so, as those federal funds dry up, it's [37:31] it really pushes burdens back onto the [37:33] communities. [37:35] Um [37:35] I I I hope that they don't es- [37:38] especially I'll I'll speak to VOCA [37:41] specifically, the funds are victim [37:43] services. That that's one that I really [37:45] hate to see dry up because it's not [37:47] coming from taxpayer dollars, it's [37:48] coming from fines from [37:51] federal defendants and from seizures. [37:54] And so, that that's one that it it just [37:56] really is unfortunate that that's drying up and it's just the nature of how sentences and things [38:03] are going these days. [38:06] But, but those those are going to be [38:08] tough dis- discussions that are going to [38:10] have to be had because that's the reality. You look at [38:15] statewide, our [38:17] domestic violence numbers across the [38:18] state have been increasing consistently [38:21] at about a 3% rate um [38:23] on top of just the natural gain from [38:25] population growth and Cache Valley [38:28] hasn't been immune to that. [38:31] » I appreciate you bringing that [38:33] information up right now that we can [38:35] keep talking about it. [38:37] >> And that's something that [38:39] unfortunately with how the federal [38:42] fiscal years line up and where the state [38:44] lines up, it puts the county in tough [38:45] position sometimes to not know what [38:48] we're we're going to have as far as [38:49] funding until partway through a year. [38:51] >> Yeah. [38:54] Anything [38:56] additional for the attorney? [38:58] Thank you. Thank you for all the [39:00] departments that spoke today for [39:02] all you do to bring justice and advocate [39:05] for the victims that we have here in our [39:06] community. [39:07] Thank you very much. [39:10] Heavy stuff that you would deal with. [39:12] Um [39:15] We're past the hour for the [39:18] um [39:18] public hearing, so we'll move on to the [39:20] item number seven [39:22] on our agenda and that is the public [39:25] hearings that we have for uh [39:27] three different public hearings. We'll [39:29] start with the Wellsville safe storage [39:31] two rezone. [39:34] We'll get some background. [39:38] Thank you. [39:40] Brian. [39:41] >> Good evening. [39:42] Brian Abbott with Development Services. [39:45] Uh tonight we've got the Wellsville safe [39:47] storage rezone. [39:50] Um [39:52] This is located off Highway 89 91. [39:57] Sorry, next one. [40:00] Um it's north of the American West [40:01] Heritage Center, east of two Cache [40:04] County owned parcels [40:06] meant for future outdoor recreation use. [40:09] It's in a view corridor identified by [40:11] COG SAC. The south is the Wellsville [40:14] city boundary, but the is off of the [40:16] county road. [40:18] As you can see on this map here, the [40:20] yellow represents agricultural A10. [40:22] That's the vast majority of the [40:24] surrounding property. [40:26] There's a little square of purple and [40:27] that's an industrial zone near Hyrum [40:30] JBS. That was rezoned in 2018. [40:33] There's just a sliver of red on that [40:36] end there. [40:38] That's some commercial storage units [40:40] near [40:41] Nibley and then all of the green lines [40:43] represent a future annexation area for [40:45] Wellsville, Nibley, and Hyrum. [40:48] Just a brief overview, this rezone [40:50] request is for 8 acres. [40:53] This came up for a rezone request [40:57] in the industrial zone. That was denied. [41:01] The planning commission recommended [41:03] denial 4-2 and the county council denied [41:06] it 5-1. That was on March 24th. [41:09] The current request to rezone to the is [41:11] for a commercial zone. This would allow [41:14] for commercial business, commercial [41:15] kennel and animal shelter, self-service [41:17] storage facilities, [41:19] general vehicle repair, recreation [41:21] facility, campground, [41:23] medical services and facilities, and [41:26] additional uses. [41:28] This came before planning commission May [41:29] 21st of this year. Planning commission [41:32] recommended denial of the rezone to the [41:34] county council on a 5-2 vote. [41:37] Public comments received against the [41:39] proposed rezone were received by Utah [41:42] State University and the American West [41:44] Heritage Center. [41:46] Some conclusions is that the commercial [41:48] uses are not consistent with surrounding [41:50] land uses, which are agriculture. [41:53] And the nearest commercial zone is 1.74 [41:56] miles to the southeast. [41:59] Any questions for me on this? [42:05] » After the public hearing is closed. [42:08] >> Thank you. [42:10] Okay, we will now open the public [42:12] hearing for ordinance 2026 - Thursday 30 [42:16] Wellsville Safe Storage to rezone. [42:19] Um [42:20] we will keep the comments to 2 minutes. [42:23] Andrew um will have [42:25] uh [42:26] running stopwatch there and I we ask [42:29] that [42:30] uh you bring [42:32] new uh comments if if something you were [42:34] going to say has already been stated [42:36] um [42:38] just bring new comments with with each [42:40] comment, please, and be civil in your [42:42] comments, please. [42:43] And and it is now open and come and [42:46] state your name and your address at the [42:50] microphone. [42:51] Or city you live in. [42:53] excuse me. [43:05] » Uh Travis Baldwin. [43:07] Um [43:08] you want my address, too? [43:09] >> Just the city you live in. [43:10] >> Paradise. [43:11] >> Thanks. [43:12] >> Um [43:14] I did send some emails. I don't know if [43:16] you guys forwarded them to the county [43:18] council. I sent them to Connor [43:19] yesterday. [43:22] Um I had some AI models mock-ups that [43:26] you guys could see how we could I know [43:28] one of the big things is this FedEx [43:30] going along there. Um we did some berms [43:33] with some bushes on top so you could [43:35] hide them aesthetically. Um you could [43:37] put some river rock in there with the [43:39] berm and then put some trees on it so [43:41] that way you can [43:43] uh match that surrounding landscape and [43:45] then we can color the storage units a [43:47] light brown or whatever [43:49] um or a cream color to match the wheat [43:52] fields or the alfalfa fields. We could [43:54] do green and light green um to match [43:57] those surrounding areas. [43:59] Um again, we're we're good neighbors. [44:01] We've [44:02] um [44:04] we're We're there to to put a big [44:07] um eyesore [44:09] uh coming into Cache Valley. We'd like [44:11] it aesthetic [44:13] for the last 15 years I've donated to [44:15] the American West Heritage Center of my [44:16] business has. That's something we plan [44:18] on doing and supporting and helping them out. [44:22] Um [44:23] and I did not bring any of those [44:24] pictures, but I am sorry. I sent them to [44:27] Connor. He said he'd forward them to you [44:28] guys. [44:30] Did you guys get them? [44:33] >> That is at the start of the year. [44:35] >> Yeah, we got them in the packet. We did. [44:37] receive the pictures. [44:38] >> Okay. As I I gave you guys three of them [44:40] so you guys could look. [44:42] >> They were received 6 6 9 of 2026 is when [44:45] they were received I guess for us. [44:48] >> Okay. [44:48] >> Sent to us. [44:50] So it's yeah, it's in the packet. [44:51] >> Okay. But it has one has a berm, one [44:54] just has some large trees. I mean, I had [44:57] bushes out in Paradise, some shrubs that [44:59] were 10 ft tall that you couldn't see in [45:01] my backyard. So that's why I said, [45:03] there's different things we can do to [45:05] help alleviate and [45:07] uh do that. The other thing is I know [45:09] you guys didn't want it in the [45:10] industrial zone and so we came back in [45:12] the commercial and that was some of your [45:13] guys's biggest um [45:16] hold-ups against it. So [45:18] we came back with the commercial. [45:20] Do you guys have any questions for me? [45:28] Okay. [45:29] Thank you guys. [45:41] » Margaret Bosworth and I'm part owner of [45:43] the Christensen 8 acres, myself and my [45:46] brother. [45:47] And I do appreciate [clears throat] you [45:49] letting us come back and and talk to you [45:51] again. And just in the meetings that [45:53] I've been to and that [45:55] in the last meeting there was a [45:57] gentleman from the American West says [45:59] that it was never approached [46:02] to buy it. And I mean if if that's what [46:04] he if that's what he found, that's fine. [46:07] They've never approached us on buying it [46:09] when they did buy the the two prior [46:12] uh west pieces that uh borders ours. At [46:15] that time, Utah State, as far as I know [46:17] talking to my brother, have not [46:19] approached him on buying it. [46:22] And it really wouldn't be any difference [46:24] if either one of them did. [46:26] We would want We would want to know what [46:28] would go on that property as we are [46:30] concerned just what it looks like, what [46:33] it benefits, and the looks of it that we [46:36] would want it to be nice depending on [46:38] who whoever bought it. Uh [46:41] the only thing my big concern is I think [46:45] you need to really consider property [46:47] right owners right property owners [46:49] rights. [46:50] And when you are a land owner, I mean, I [46:53] know I mean, I love Wellsville and and [46:56] everything, too, and coming into the [46:58] valley and everything, also. [47:01] But I think you need to look at property [47:04] right owners the rights and uh lost [47:08] revenue for our family in what we want [47:10] to do with that piece of ground, whether [47:13] now or down the road. [47:16] And I guess that's all I've got to say. [47:18] Is there any questions for me? [47:22] » Thank you. [47:23] >> Okay. [47:32] » Move to close the public hearing. [47:34] >> [cough] [47:35] >> Second. [47:36] >> Unless there's others. [47:37] >> Can I just say something really quick? [47:39] >> Uh yes. [47:41] Follow protocol. Thank you. [47:46] » My name is Deborah Van Noy, and I just [47:48] wanted to comment on the topic of these smaller parcels of land. There would be an opportunity for [47:57] generating [47:58] uh very attractive revenue for these [48:00] property owners by considering [48:02] protecting the land [48:04] with a conservation easement because it [48:06] is part of the gateway into Cache [48:07] Valley. [48:08] And I don't know if these owners have [48:10] thought about that as an option, but it [48:12] certainly is a valuable one. I know that [48:15] these acreages are in the 8 to 10 acre [48:18] level, not large, but because they are [48:20] in that view corridor, they would be [48:22] very valuable. I just wanted to add that [48:24] comment. [48:25] >> Thank you. [48:36] » Mike Baldwin, I'm from Wellsville. There [48:38] I just live a couple miles from that spot. [48:42] And [48:43] yeah, I we did put it [48:45] back to you guys. I appreciate you re- [48:48] taking another look at this. [48:50] And I do appreciate the the open space [48:52] and I've worked with some conservation [48:54] easements in the past with my father's [48:56] land. [48:57] And it it has worked out. [49:00] But this is a smaller one. The amount of [49:02] revenue you can generate with that is [49:04] limited [49:05] compared to what [49:07] you can do for [49:08] the Bosworth and Christensen family. [49:10] They're the ones that came to us cuz we [49:12] had another project that's that they [49:14] were working on, their their son. [49:17] And said, "Hey, we'd love to have that [49:19] on our property here." I said, "Let's [49:20] let's take a look and see if we can make [49:22] this work for you." So, that's how it [49:25] came together. [49:27] For me, it's just and residents of [49:29] Wellsville, just like me, [49:32] that are around there, there's nowhere [49:34] to go that isn't already full near us. [49:38] We went through the planning and zoning [49:40] and again, [49:41] the gentleman that we might compete with [49:43] out in Mendon on that corridor coming [49:45] in, this is another open space corridor [49:48] coming in on the west side of the valley [49:50] Uh, [49:51] has storage sheds Again, voted and [49:53] didn't recuse himself of that, either. [49:56] Uh, which was unfortunate, uh, where [49:58] it's a conflict of interest on that. So, [50:01] uh, but they did speak out, several of [50:03] them, uh, about the property rights, uh, [50:05] on the planning zoning commission, as [50:07] well, that voted for it. [50:09] So, that that's, uh, [50:11] something to consider, uh, [50:14] the her family has is being able to, uh, [50:17] generate that income. They have a farm [50:19] down below there. This is a piece that [50:21] they can't farm without leasing it out [50:23] to somebody else to try to do that. So, [50:25] it limits the income uh, they can get [50:27] just just off the leasing rights, not [50:29] generating it with their own. So, [50:32] any questions? [50:34] >> So, I have a question. So, you're the [50:36] developer. [50:38] You're not the owner of the property, [50:40] right? She's the owner, and you're the [50:42] developer, right? [50:44] >> Yes, I'm they they came to us, and we [50:46] had a project there [50:48] and where I was in Wellsville, as well, [50:50] and have another business in Wellsville, [50:53] uh, there that, uh, we just built. She wanted some help in in being able to [50:56] put something together where they didn't [50:58] know how to do it on their own. And so, [51:00] that's why we said, instead of us just [51:01] buying the piece from you, let's invest [51:04] together, uh, on that, so it doesn't [51:06] just [51:07] you know, profit me or another partner [51:10] that it that it helps their their [51:11] family, as well, long term. And that's a [51:14] fit that worked for them. [51:15] >> Thank you. [51:16] >> You're welcome. [51:34] » Move to close the public hearing. [51:35] >> Second. [51:36] >> I'll second. [51:37] >> Is there's others? [51:39] >> Any further discussion? No? All those in [51:41] favor say aye. [51:41] >> Aye. [51:43] Okay, moving on to [51:45] the ordinance 2026-31, [51:48] Richmond City Creek Rezone. [51:53] » [clears throat] [51:54] >> All right. So, the Richmond City Creek [51:57] Rezone [51:58] is just south of Richmond on Highway 91, [52:02] uh 9000 North. It's current use right now is [52:07] agriculture, and all of the surrounding [52:08] areas are agriculture with a few houses [52:11] uh located around there. [52:14] A brief overview, this rezone request is [52:17] for 7.58 acres on two parcels [52:20] from agriculture to industrial. [52:23] The nearest industrial zone is uh the is [52:26] to the north [52:27] uh 0.38 acres. Uh it was Lower Foods [52:30] that rezone [52:32] um was approved uh earlier this year. [52:36] The industrial zone would allow for [52:38] storage and warehousing, self-storage [52:40] facilities, transport services, general [52:42] vehicle repair, crematorium, and and [52:44] some other uses. [52:46] This came before the planning commission [52:47] also on May 21st of this year. Planning [52:50] commission recommended approval of the [52:52] rezone to the county council 7 to 0. [52:55] Their conclusions, the property is [52:56] consistent with the industrial zone. [52:59] The nearest parcel zoned industrial is [53:01] just north of the subject property. [53:04] Richmond City provided comment that they [53:06] have no issues with this rezone. [53:09] >> Thank you, Brian. And [53:11] same guidelines as the previous [53:15] public hearing. [53:16] Please step to the podium and state your [53:18] name and and the city you reside and [53:21] keep your comments to about 2 minutes, [53:22] please. [53:32] » Hello, I'm Judson Eads. Um I'm the one [53:35] that's [53:36] uh under contract to buy that if it can [53:38] be rezoned, and [53:40] I probably need to be coached cuz I've [53:41] never done this before, so I don't know [53:42] if there's questions or anything I [53:44] should be [53:45] uh telling you that I haven't thought of [53:47] or go if you got any recommendations [53:48] ready to or questions you might have, [53:49] let me know. [53:53] » I've heard it, so I'm good, so. [53:56] >> I was in the planning and zoning [53:57] >> Public hearing goes, no no questions. [54:00] Public hearing, so. [54:01] >> Yeah. [54:02] I [54:04] >> Not not a data center. [54:05] >> Not a data center. [54:06] >> say what I want to do with not a data [54:07] center. [54:08] >> Ah. [54:09] I I don't know. I don't have any [54:11] questions. [54:12] >> You have questions of what to do with [54:13] it, but I [54:14] Is that something I should answer? [54:16] >> You can. [54:17] >> do with it? [54:18] >> Uh I own Adrenaline Industries, and we [54:20] build um expedition trucks, which are [54:22] like off-road motor homes. [54:24] >> Cool. [54:27] Any other questions for proponent? [54:29] >> No, I've got some for Brian, but [54:31] >> Okay. [54:33] >> Good. [54:33] >> All right, thanks. [54:41] Any other public comment? [54:44] » Move to close the public hearing. [54:46] >> Second. [54:47] >> All those in favor, say aye. Aye. [54:49] >> Aye. [54:50] >> Okay, moving on to resolution 2026-17, [54:54] opening and amending the Cache County [54:56] 2026 budget, [54:58] third amendment. [55:00] Mr. Funk. [55:07] » Matthew Funk, Cache County auditor. [55:09] This um [55:11] budget opening is for the second [55:13] quarter. We have um [55:15] each quarter. Um this budget amendment [55:18] would allow us to uh proceed with uh [55:21] booking about a million dollars of [55:24] revenue. Most of that would be inner or [55:26] inner governmental revenue or the grants [55:28] and what have you. [55:30] Um expenditures uh in this opening would [55:33] be 6.3 million dollars. [55:36] At least 4 million of that uh would be funded by wraps. [55:41] So, [55:42] um [55:43] and would uh adjust fund balances down [55:45] by 5.2 million. Again, that's mostly [55:48] wraps. It would actually increase the [55:49] fund balance in the general fund by [55:51] 177,000 [55:53] dollars. [55:55] >> Thank you. [56:01] Any uh public comment concerning the [56:03] resolution 2026-17? [56:06] Um following the same protocol, we know. [56:12] Okay, seeing there is none. [56:13] >> Move to close public hearing. [56:15] >> Second. [56:16] >> All those in favor say aye. [56:17] >> Aye. [56:18] >> Okay. Thank you. [56:21] Um item number eight, we'll move on to [56:23] initial proposals for consideration of [56:25] action. And 8A is ordinance 2026-30 [56:29] Wells Bell Safe Storage 2 rezone. And [56:33] Brian, if we could have you I think [56:35] there's there's some additional [56:37] questions for you, if you don't mind. [56:49] Sorry, trying to pull it up. [56:58] » The road [56:59] that passes this [57:01] it is a minor [57:03] local road. [57:04] >> Yeah. [57:05] >> And the the county owns that right now. [57:07] >> And industrial and commercial are not [57:08] allowed? [57:09] >> Uh [57:10] I have one of their conditions, if [57:12] approved, would be to upgrade that road. [57:17] » At the cost That'd be their cost. [57:18] >> Developer's cost, yes. [57:28] » What's the distance to the The from the [57:31] highway to there. [57:33] Uh access. [57:35] >> It's the very first parcel right as you [57:37] turn. So. [57:39] Not very far at all. [57:41] >> But there is no they have no frontage [57:42] themselves to [57:44] US 89, right? [57:45] >> Correct. [57:47] >> But they have to improve it the entire [57:48] length of the property? [57:49] >> Of their property. [58:03] » Uh there's quite a [58:05] there is quite a distance between there [58:08] and other commercial properties. [58:10] I know it's the uh [58:11] >> Um in the county, yeah. About a [58:14] just under 2 mi to the next one. [58:16] >> 1.67. [58:18] >> Yeah. [58:22] » And those those prop all those [58:23] properties [58:25] do they have frontage to US 89 that are [58:28] zoned commercial? [58:30] >> Um [58:33] I don't think they're on the US 89. [58:39] » But that one they [58:40] >> understand your question correctly. [58:41] >> No, all the other commercial properties [58:44] that are in that area there that are do [58:47] they have frontage to US 89? [58:50] That are [58:51] within that 1.67 mi? [58:55] >> I I feel I don't know if I should speak. [58:57] I think some of the ones they they turn [58:59] off of the road and kind of have [59:00] frontage roads of their own to them. [59:02] >> Come back, yeah. [59:04] >> The the one I'm thinking about, that's [59:05] what they do. [59:06] >> Are there any in Wellsville city limits? [59:10] >> Yeah, pallets of I don't know what their [59:12] name is. There's a pallet company that [59:13] just got put in. That's the one that [59:14] kind of [59:14] >> That's the big one. [59:15] >> comes in and and then kind of has their [59:17] own frontage [59:18] >> And that's in that's incorporated? [59:20] >> Yeah. [59:21] >> And how how far away is that? [59:23] >> It's close. [59:24] >> Just cross the highway? [59:25] >> Yep. About, yeah. [59:28] >> And that's Is that industrial or is that [59:29] commercial in there? [59:31] So it's different. They're They have [59:33] different zoning. Okay. It's pretty big. [59:36] >> Has there been any reported safety [59:38] issues? I know with [59:40] the I know when there's events that come [59:42] out of and utilize that road to get out [59:44] of the events that are at the American [59:45] West [59:46] Heritage. [59:48] Uh [59:49] it's quite a safety concern. There's a [59:51] lot of them that refuse to turn left [59:53] there. [59:53] >> Yeah, they make most people turn right [59:55] and then they go down the road a ways [59:57] and do a U-turn. [59:58] >> [laughter] [59:59] >> I've seen that quite happen quite a bit [1:00:01] and [1:00:02] >> Hopefully they go to the light. [1:00:05] How far is it to the light? [1:00:08] 2 miles? [1:00:13] I don't know. Everyone goes so fast, [1:00:15] it's all relative. I mean other people [1:00:17] do, not me. [1:00:18] >> If you're walking, it's a long ways. If [1:00:19] you're driving, it's just a little ways. [1:00:20] >> Yeah. [1:00:27] And And I should have asked you while [1:00:28] you were up here, did you try to [1:00:29] incorporate into Wellsville where you [1:00:32] are adjacent to Wellsville? [1:00:34] >> We have not yet. [1:00:36] >> Okay. [1:00:37] Cuz it is adjacent to Wellsville City, [1:00:39] correct? [1:00:40] >> Correct. [1:00:43] Uh [1:00:44] We were within the county, we [1:00:46] >> Just wanted to [1:00:47] Okay. [1:00:51] » But what's the distance between that [1:00:53] property and Wellsville City though? [1:00:55] >> The next [1:00:57] >> It's right against the across the [1:00:58] street. [1:00:59] >> American West Heritage Center is in [1:01:01] Wellsville City. [1:01:04] » Oh, across the small road. The front of [1:01:05] Oh, across the little road. Not the high [1:01:07] Not the highway. [1:01:08] >> Yeah, and then across the highway. [1:01:10] Anything south Like you said, you can [1:01:12] see it up there. That's Wellsville City. [1:01:14] >> Oh, yeah. Okay. [1:01:16] >> Just right across the street. [1:01:18] >> Got you. [1:01:18] >> We do not have frontage on 8991. [1:01:23] Um [1:01:23] but you can buy it. [1:01:25] We have to go back [1:01:26] >> off on that, whatever that road is [1:01:29] called. [1:01:29] >> Yeah, we don't have frontage on anything [1:01:30] now. [1:01:32] >> Okay. [1:01:33] >> So, the entryway would be on that minor [1:01:36] road. And as you pointed out, it wasn't [1:01:38] It is a minor road, but [1:01:40] it did take on 8 to 10,000 people [1:01:44] in the last month. [1:01:46] That's the minor road there. So, [1:01:47] arguably the minor road is [1:01:49] definitely [1:01:50] the most traveled minor road in the [1:01:51] county. [1:02:02] » I guess I'll I'll state my concern [1:02:04] previously when we reviewed this. [1:02:06] I didn't think that industrial would be [1:02:09] the proper zoning [1:02:11] for this. And And so, I think bringing [1:02:14] it in with a commercial application for [1:02:17] zoning [1:02:18] um [1:02:20] is is more appropriate. Um I I ideally [1:02:23] would love to see it be in a gateway and [1:02:25] to be open space, but also [1:02:27] we deal with willing landowners. And [1:02:29] that's right in what we state with our [1:02:32] COZAC and and other things. And And that [1:02:34] means that it has to be something that [1:02:36] they would [1:02:38] propose themselves [1:02:40] and not be compelled to do. And so, [1:02:43] believing in their right to develop [1:02:45] their property [1:02:46] um [1:02:47] I I don't see why I how I would deny [1:02:50] this. [1:02:59] » I kind of like the idea that they did [1:03:02] switch from industrial to commercial. [1:03:05] And they're so close to commercial in [1:03:08] Wellsville City, too. [1:03:11] That [1:03:13] makes it a lot better to me cuz I think [1:03:16] I know probably America West Heritage is that zoned agriculture? [1:03:23] Or [1:03:24] But it's very commercial. [1:03:26] Even if it is agriculture. [1:03:28] >> out of the year it is, huh? [1:03:29] >> Yeah. [1:03:31] Well, they do it [1:03:33] they have a year round program. [1:03:34] >> They do. They do. [1:03:40] » It just seems so [1:03:41] It really does seem so different right [1:03:44] in the middle of all that agriculture [1:03:46] area. [1:03:47] Uh [1:03:48] I I know it would have an effect [1:03:52] you know, no matter how [1:03:53] much you tried to hide it. It would [1:03:56] stand out [1:03:58] in uh [1:04:00] just [1:04:01] you know, just appro- approaching that [1:04:03] whole area right there is they're trying to make that a heritage a [1:04:06] heritage area. [1:04:08] And I uh [1:04:10] I I worry that uh [1:04:14] it would be to me it'd be somewhat [1:04:16] blighted bringing in a a business [1:04:18] right next to all of that. [1:04:21] >> Well, what I noticed coming through [1:04:22] there is all the buildings from Utah [1:04:25] State, all their agriculture things. [1:04:28] There's a lot of buildings. I mean [1:04:30] >> A lot of agriculture buildings, not just [1:04:32] that. [1:04:33] >> classed agriculture, but they're still [1:04:35] buildings. You know, with big [1:04:37] agriculture [1:04:38] >> Well, 25 pallets of Utah's like 20,000 [1:04:41] square foot building across the street. [1:04:42] >> Yeah. [1:04:43] >> I mean, it's massive. [1:04:45] >> So, I think the view is really [1:04:49] kind of [1:04:50] already taken up [1:04:52] with buildings. That's what I noticed [1:04:54] coming through there. [1:04:59] » Well, it's an issue, so it's up to [1:05:03] >> Yeah, we can continue. [1:05:06] >> No motion. I can't make a motion. [1:05:11] » Continue? [1:05:11] >> Do you have to change the rules or of [1:05:13] that? [1:05:13] >> Uh we can continue it and and [1:05:16] take action on next [1:05:19] meeting or we can take most take an [1:05:22] action today. Either way. [1:05:25] It's the first time that we're seeing it [1:05:27] so we can just [1:05:29] >> Go straight. [1:05:30] >> We can do it next meeting as well. [1:05:32] >> The rules would need to be suspended. [1:05:33] >> Yeah. [1:05:34] >> If we were to take action today we'd [1:05:35] suspend the rules. [1:05:35] >> Oh [1:05:41] » Well, it seems like they've been coming. [1:05:43] We've continued and continued [1:05:46] already, but if you think you need more [1:05:49] information or shall I make a motion [1:05:52] suspend the rules and make a motion that [1:05:54] we accept the rezone [1:05:57] of Wellsville 2. That's how I feel about [1:05:59] it. [1:06:00] >> Of ordinance 2026-3? [1:06:02] >> Yeah, mhm. [1:06:03] >> Okay, we have a motion made by Joanne. [1:06:06] Is there a second? [1:06:08] >> I'll second. [1:06:09] >> Okay. [1:06:10] We have any further discussion on the [1:06:11] motion on the floor? [1:06:14] » This is a tough one. Um [1:06:18] just north of there there is property [1:06:21] for sale on both sides of the highway. [1:06:24] Um I love the idea of open space and I [1:06:27] love the idea of [1:06:29] vistas and corridors, but at the same [1:06:31] time I love the idea of property rights. [1:06:35] Um [1:06:37] I've wrestled with this, but um [1:06:42] I I have a problem and I've we've got a [1:06:46] letter here. I got emails [1:06:49] during the week of not wanting it there. [1:06:53] But um [1:06:58] I have a hard time saying that we're [1:07:00] putting this [1:07:01] coverage on this property and not giving [1:07:03] property owners say so what goes on this [1:07:05] coverage as far as an open vista and [1:07:07] everything else. I love the open vistas. [1:07:09] I have ground of my own I want to keep [1:07:10] open, but [1:07:12] um we got growth, so [1:07:17] And I want to support the planning and [1:07:20] zoning, but there was a great debate in [1:07:22] planning and zoning. [1:07:24] And um [1:07:25] I'm going to side with the two of the [1:07:27] planning and zoning who [1:07:29] denied this and I'm going to agree with [1:07:32] what um [1:07:34] Joanna's proposed [1:07:35] >> here. [1:07:37] » The executive, yes. [1:07:38] >> Um [1:07:40] you're just bending your rules to vote [1:07:42] on it. [1:07:43] It's a major issue. I wonder if you [1:07:45] shouldn't have a full quorum [1:07:47] to dispose of this issue. [1:07:51] >> Noted, thank you. [1:07:52] >> had question for you. [1:07:54] >> Thank you. [1:07:58] » It's a good point. [1:08:02] Commissioner or council members, what [1:08:04] your thoughts of what the executive [1:08:05] said? [1:08:08] There is a motion on the floor, but [1:08:09] >> a motion on the floor. [1:08:12] So [1:08:17] We need to vote on the motion on the [1:08:19] floor. [1:08:21] Um all those in favor say I. [1:08:24] >> I. [1:08:24] Any opposed? [1:08:26] >> Nay. [1:08:27] >> Motion prevails. [1:08:29] Okay, moving on. We will go to [1:08:34] ordinance 2026-31 [1:08:37] Richmond City Creek rezone. Thanks, [1:08:40] Brian. You just are planted there for a [1:08:42] minute. [1:08:43] >> It's all right. [1:08:47] Questions? [1:08:47] >> Questions? [1:08:50] It's adjacent to industrial. [1:08:52] >> Yeah, Lowers is just to the north of it [1:08:55] a couple of fields. Yeah. [1:08:56] >> Oh, a couple of fields. So it's not [1:08:58] >> Yeah. [1:08:58] >> 1.38 miles. So it would be a similar [1:09:00] >> .38 [1:09:01] >> Oh, .38. Oh. [1:09:02] >> Uh [1:09:03] is there only one point of access? [1:09:06] >> It'll be on I think that's 9000 North. I [1:09:08] call it Whiskey Lane my whole life. [1:09:10] >> There there it I just looking at the [1:09:12] maps it didn't look like it came over [1:09:14] >> It won't come off of the highway the [1:09:15] access to this property. [1:09:16] >> going to say UDOT will have a [1:09:19] I don't think they want to take on UDOT. [1:09:20] >> 9000 North [1:09:24] >> So that's where their access then will [1:09:26] be. [1:09:26] >> Yep. [1:09:31] » Whiskey Lane? [1:09:32] >> Yeah. [1:09:33] >> Is that what You got You got to be from [1:09:34] the north You got to be from the north [1:09:36] to call it that? [1:09:37] >> But he didn't name it. [1:09:38] >> Oh, okay. [1:09:40] >> I don't think so. [1:09:41] >> No. No. [1:09:45] » It was named that when we learned to [1:09:46] drive on there. [1:09:47] >> highways but you're saying the access [1:09:48] will be from from [1:09:49] this lane. [1:09:50] >> 9000 North [1:09:52] >> Matt lives on [1:09:54] Matt Funk [1:09:54] >> Oh, Matt Funk lives on that. Oh, okay. [1:09:57] He might have named it. [1:09:58] >> How it's coming together. back in the [1:10:00] >> [laughter] [1:10:02] >> Okay, is there any further questions [1:10:04] that we have? [1:10:05] Or any action that we want to take this [1:10:07] evening? [1:10:09] >> I would move to suspend the rules and [1:10:11] pass ordinance 2026-31. [1:10:14] >> Second. [1:10:15] >> We'll take Nolan. Second by Nolan. [1:10:18] Uh any further discussion? [1:10:20] Seeing none, we'll go ahead and vote. [1:10:21] All those in favor say aye. [1:10:23] >> Aye. [1:10:24] >> Any opposed? [1:10:26] The motion prevails. Okay, thank you. [1:10:29] Now we'll move to the resolution [1:10:30] providing round one approval of 2026-19, [1:10:34] excuse me, providing round one approval [1:10:37] to the Birch Canyon Weed and Seed Co-op [1:10:41] open space application. [1:10:43] That one was a tongue twister. [1:10:45] Oh, Brian. [1:10:47] Sorry, you sat down. Oh, no, Chris. [1:10:49] Excuse me, Chris is here. [1:10:51] Chris was [1:10:52] on a couch. [1:10:56] Thanks, Chris. [1:10:57] >> Thank you. Thanks for having us. We're [1:10:59] excited again [1:11:01] to bring another couple of CO sec [1:11:05] recommendations of approval to the [1:11:08] council [1:11:09] tonight. [1:11:11] And so the first project and and for [1:11:14] both projects [1:11:15] I believe we have land owner [1:11:16] representation [1:11:18] here tonight. So if you have questions [1:11:20] feel free to ask them if any questions [1:11:24] you may have. So the first one is called [1:11:27] the Birch Canyon weed and seed co-op [1:11:30] project. This is a small relatively [1:11:34] small property [1:11:37] but it's uh [1:11:40] size [1:11:42] is significantly I'm sorry the [1:11:45] significance of it is is much larger [1:11:48] than just the size of the property. [1:11:50] Um [1:11:51] it happens to border the north end of [1:11:54] the recently acquired Cash County [1:11:58] parcel [1:12:00] project known as the shoot property and [1:12:02] so this project would abut um [1:12:06] bond funded open space that the county [1:12:08] council [1:12:09] utilized [1:12:11] um [1:12:11] >> Can you point which direction that bond [1:12:13] funded [1:12:14] >> south. [1:12:15] >> On that. [1:12:17] map yep. [1:12:19] >> Go down. [1:12:20] >> It's down there. [1:12:20] >> Yeah. [1:12:21] >> It's straight at the bottom. [1:12:22] >> Oh I know which side it's on. [1:12:23] >> Straight bottom I'm sorry. We need [1:12:24] >> Yeah. [1:12:25] >> I know which side it's [1:12:27] I know on that which way is it? [1:12:28] >> So it'd be at the top end of the county [1:12:29] parcel. [1:12:30] >> Okay got you. [1:12:32] >> And it happens to um [1:12:34] involve [1:12:36] Birch Canyon Road for those of you [1:12:38] familiar with that area. It's very [1:12:40] popular access for [1:12:43] hikers, bikers and other recreationists [1:12:46] in addition to a handful of land owners [1:12:48] up in this area. [1:12:51] Um so as mentioned Birch Canyon Road and [1:12:55] Birch Creek both run through the [1:12:57] property as well as the a water [1:13:00] pipeline. [1:13:01] And [1:13:02] the landowners here are very interested [1:13:05] in in protecting the [1:13:07] native habitat that exists on the [1:13:09] property. [1:13:13] Um, [1:13:14] just a reminder we're we're in this [1:13:16] first round [1:13:17] of our application process [1:13:20] um, for this project. [1:13:23] And [1:13:24] this was is a summary of the categories [1:13:28] that were evaluated for the property. So [1:13:32] in terms of scoring for COSACH funding, [1:13:36] we looked at scenic vistas, [1:13:39] valley gateways, agricultural waterways, [1:13:41] wildlife habitat, public access access [1:13:44] and any other distinguishing factors to [1:13:47] come up with [1:13:49] the score out of a total of 100 points. [1:13:54] This project received 49, [1:13:57] which is still a pretty good scoring. [1:14:00] Just for reference, we haven't had a [1:14:03] of the 20 projects that have come before [1:14:06] you, I don't think we've had one score [1:14:08] more than 76 [1:14:10] to give you an idea. [1:14:13] So it's not [1:14:15] a below a certain grade fails or [1:14:17] anything like that. [1:14:19] This just shows that there is broad [1:14:21] benefits [1:14:23] for for the project overall. [1:14:29] Um, in terms of protecting scenic [1:14:32] vistas, the COSACH scored it a 5.7 out [1:14:35] of 15. [1:14:36] It is a very scenic property. However, [1:14:38] it's not along [1:14:40] a highway major highway that sort of [1:14:42] thing. [1:14:43] Um, and can't really be seen from the [1:14:46] valley floor. [1:14:48] So, really those who are going to [1:14:50] experience are going to be [1:14:52] up Birch Canyon or perhaps on some of [1:14:56] the adjacent properties. [1:15:00] Uh it's not near a Valley Gateway, so [1:15:02] got a fairly low score for for that. [1:15:08] Um it's not farmland, so again a low [1:15:11] score for farmland. However, [1:15:15] where it tends to stand out is in for [1:15:19] maintaining waterways. As mentioned, [1:15:21] Birch Creek flows through the property [1:15:24] and um the landowners have worked for [1:15:26] many years to [1:15:28] um remove invasive species on the on the [1:15:31] property and out of the riparian area. [1:15:35] It's also really good wildlife habitat, [1:15:38] so it got nearly 12 out of 15 points for [1:15:41] that. Um there's fair amount of nesting [1:15:43] that that goes on in some of the larger [1:15:45] trees on the property, and of course, [1:15:48] the usual wildlife that we would see up [1:15:50] in the canyons frequent this um parcel. [1:15:56] And um [1:15:58] the existing [1:16:01] uh Birch Canyon Road is a very popular [1:16:03] trail [1:16:05] uh access leading to a trailhead um [1:16:09] or former trailhead, I suppose, uh that [1:16:12] accesses Forest Service property or [1:16:14] public land [1:16:15] um up the road from this property. [1:16:18] Um so, folks are already [1:16:20] traveling through the property on the [1:16:22] county road and are able to benefit from the view um of the property and and [1:16:29] the other um resources that come with [1:16:32] the property. [1:16:34] Yes, sir. George. [1:16:35] >> Chris, I I just want to make [1:16:37] uh [1:16:38] have a little understanding of what the [1:16:39] situation is up there. I'm I'm familiar [1:16:42] with the roadway. I've been up there. Is the roadway now [1:16:49] in some way restricted from bikes? [1:16:53] >> It's not. [1:16:54] So, [1:16:55] >> um [1:16:56] and I guess there's motorcycles, trail [1:16:59] bikes, there's electric bikes, and so [1:17:02] on. [1:17:03] >> Yeah. And vehicles, cars, trucks. [1:17:05] >> Right. [1:17:06] >> Yes. [1:17:06] >> Um [1:17:07] as I understood it, the owners of the [1:17:10] property are proposing [1:17:13] to close it? They [1:17:15] >> No, no, no. Not to close it. So, um [1:17:17] yeah, sorry if that there's a [1:17:19] misunderstanding there. [1:17:20] >> They say there for bikers would be a [1:17:23] disturbance. What what [1:17:24] >> Correct. For [1:17:26] uh [1:17:27] if you were to ask them for developing [1:17:30] trails, other trails through the [1:17:32] property, not the county road, but other [1:17:35] trails through the property. Say to [1:17:36] connect to the county roads. [1:17:39] Um and the landowners are here, and they [1:17:41] can speak to it, but they just recognize [1:17:44] that [1:17:44] um bicycles bring a level of disturbance [1:17:47] that they would prefer to avoid. [1:17:49] >> Yeah, and I think frankly the [1:17:53] area would be better non-motorized. [1:17:56] >> Yes. [1:17:56] >> If we're something, but I want to make [1:17:59] it clear if we're making that decision [1:18:01] or not. By by approving this, we're [1:18:03] really not changing whatever the road [1:18:06] rights are now. Is that correct? [1:18:08] >> That is correct. [1:18:09] >> Okay. [1:18:10] >> That is correct. And I think [1:18:12] >> I don't want them changed. I just say [1:18:14] that we're this isn't changing at this [1:18:16] point. [1:18:17] >> That's correct. And um and and of course [1:18:19] all of that would be worked out at a [1:18:21] later time, but at least as far as the [1:18:23] landowner has explained to us, [1:18:26] um they're open to public access. They [1:18:28] want people to see the property and view [1:18:32] the property, [1:18:33] um but would prefer that it's by foot, [1:18:36] for [1:18:38] Sure. Yeah. [1:18:40] Okay. [1:18:42] You'll have to come You'll have to [1:18:43] >> Sir, do you mind coming and speaking in [1:18:45] the microphone and stating your name? [1:18:47] No, you're [1:18:49] >> Uh the main road is a county road and [1:18:53] right now it supports about 19 different [1:18:56] sets of users. Some go slow, horses, [1:19:00] families, walkers. Some go fast. [1:19:03] Um it will get more congested, but I [1:19:07] because the road goes through my our [1:19:09] land, we weren't talking about that road at [1:19:12] all. [1:19:13] >> Okay. That's all I wanted. [1:19:15] >> And sir, will you state your name just [1:19:17] for the record? No, you're fine. [1:19:19] >> K.O. Robertson and this is Beth [1:19:20] Callender, my wife. [1:19:21] >> Thank you. [1:19:25] K.O. [1:19:26] Um [1:19:28] Okay. [1:19:30] And then some of the distinguishing [1:19:32] factors, primarily, you know, just [1:19:35] recognizing that it's adjacent to an [1:19:38] existing bond purchase [1:19:40] land and [1:19:43] with that provides potentially a [1:19:45] connection [1:19:47] um [1:19:47] to Birch Canyon from the county land. [1:19:51] So, [1:19:51] think about that and and opportunities [1:19:53] there. We see We see an opportunity. [1:19:57] Um [1:19:58] So, next steps would be to [1:20:02] um [1:20:03] request your uh approval for round one [1:20:08] um so we can move on to to round two and [1:20:13] uh get more specifics as far as what the [1:20:16] landowner would like to see in terms of [1:20:19] a project and project funding. [1:20:22] Other questions we can answer on this [1:20:24] one for now? [1:20:26] >> Another question. [1:20:27] This one's a little bit different than [1:20:29] what we've seen on the other open space [1:20:30] ones. So, who would be a partner in [1:20:33] funding on this? Give me example. [1:20:36] >> Um [1:20:39] it's going to be limited. Because it's a [1:20:41] small parcel, you know, just from our [1:20:43] work with you on the workshop, [1:20:45] um [1:20:46] there it's not going to attract in our [1:20:49] CS funding necessarily or Lee Ray [1:20:52] McAllister. They want to emphasize [1:20:54] agricultural land. So, [1:20:56] um potential [1:20:58] funding sources as one thing, a [1:21:00] potential funding source and or [1:21:03] um easement holder in this case could [1:21:06] be, for example, like the Division of [1:21:08] Wildlife Resources. Or as we talked, you [1:21:11] know, is this one of the projects that [1:21:14] the county could potentially be the [1:21:16] easement holder. Um [1:21:19] if if [1:21:20] you agree that that would be a good [1:21:22] thing. So. [1:21:23] >> Is that potentially a [1:21:25] municipality? [1:21:26] >> Could be a municipality, could be a [1:21:28] nonprofit organization, also. So, there [1:21:31] are other options. It's just not likely [1:21:33] to attract much in the way of funding. [1:21:36] And And so, I think [1:21:39] um [1:21:40] that's really [1:21:41] the kinds of things that we'll get in [1:21:43] dig into detail on in round two. [1:21:45] Get those things figured out. [1:21:46] >> I would [1:21:47] tell you that I think there's [1:21:49] significant support in Smithfield City [1:21:53] for this project. This is This is a [1:21:55] really beautiful canyon. [1:21:59] I recognize, you know, if the landowner [1:22:01] is not putting a restriction on the [1:22:02] county road, but we may choose to do [1:22:04] that. And And how to enhance this area. [1:22:09] But it in connection with our shoot [1:22:12] property, this is This is a real [1:22:14] important parcel. [1:22:17] And I would think that we would want to [1:22:19] do everything to encourage this [1:22:22] um [1:22:23] project. [1:22:25] Does the I recognize years ago when we [1:22:28] were working on this is establishing a [1:22:32] county road. Smithfield City was vitally [1:22:35] interested, but it wasn't [1:22:38] it was there was still an open [1:22:40] discussion about what kind of use ought [1:22:42] to be, but citizens enjoy walking up [1:22:46] Birch Canyon. [1:22:49] Just a lovely place. [1:22:53] » Yeah. [1:22:54] I think this is one of those unique [1:22:55] projects, right? That we were talking [1:22:57] about earlier. It's not going to fit the [1:22:59] mold of most of the other projects that [1:23:01] we're going to bring to you. So, [1:23:03] uh we may we may need to be creative. I know that the landowners have [1:23:07] expressed, you know, that the the financials of it is not the driving [1:23:13] factor for them. They just really want [1:23:15] to see this [1:23:17] project conserved or this land [1:23:19] conserved. [1:23:21] >> Yeah. It mentions that the Bonneville [1:23:23] Shoreline [1:23:25] Trail. Does it Does it actually put it [1:23:29] propose it? Is it going to traverse [1:23:31] this property or is it near this [1:23:33] property? [1:23:34] >> Nearby. I think there's potential [1:23:36] connections in the that could be made in [1:23:38] the future to the Bonneville Shoreline [1:23:41] Trail, but it's not not necessarily on [1:23:43] this property. [1:23:44] >> does not restrict [1:23:45] >> That's right. [1:23:46] >> That you know, bicycles are allowed on [1:23:48] that. [1:23:49] >> True. [1:23:49] >> So. [1:23:50] >> That's right. [1:23:50] >> That That might be an issue then. [1:23:53] >> Yeah. But, you know, you can as the landowner on your [1:23:58] property, you can [1:24:01] allocate uh [1:24:03] an easement or a trail for Bonneville [1:24:06] Shoreline Trail for all the uses. You [1:24:07] could also have a trail that tiers off [1:24:10] of that that maybe comes into this [1:24:13] canyon that is more restrictive. [1:24:16] So, I think that is possible. [1:24:24] Other questions I can help answer or [1:24:26] >> Thank you. [1:24:27] >> Do you want to hear from the landowners? [1:24:29] >> I I would I would move that we go ahead [1:24:32] and [1:24:33] allow this to move on and we we pass I [1:24:37] guess phase one. [1:24:38] >> Is this an ordinance? [1:24:39] >> We have to spend this ordinance? [1:24:41] >> I don't know. [1:24:42] >> It's resolution we don't have [1:24:43] >> Sorry. [1:24:44] >> And so [1:24:46] we go ahead and pass this and send it on [1:24:48] to continue this process and [1:24:51] I [1:24:53] think it's going to it's going to be a [1:24:55] evolution as we go because it is [1:24:58] a unique [1:24:59] five and a half acre smaller parcel. [1:25:01] We'll have to learn as we go. [1:25:03] >> I second that motion. [1:25:05] >> Okay, thank you. We have a motion on the floor. Any further [1:25:09] discussion? [1:25:11] Seeing none, we'll vote. All those in [1:25:12] favor say I. [1:25:13] >> I. [1:25:14] >> Thank you. It passes. [1:25:16] Um Council, I ask for your forgiveness. [1:25:19] I inadvertently skipped [1:25:22] on our 8C. [1:25:25] Um so while Chris is here, we'll go [1:25:28] ahead if if you'll allow we'll go ahead [1:25:29] and move on with E and circle back to C [1:25:32] if that's okay. [1:25:34] While Chris is at the podium, is that [1:25:35] okay? [1:25:36] >> Matt's thinking about Whiskey Lane [1:25:37] anyhow. [1:25:38] >> I know. So excuse me, we will get back [1:25:40] to C but let's go ahead and let Chris if [1:25:43] that's okay with the Council. [1:25:44] >> Okay. [1:25:45] Thank you, Chris. [1:25:47] >> Thank you. Okay. [1:25:48] >> I was feeling sorry for Matt. I was [1:25:49] thinking [1:25:51] >> Here's a Here's another great project [1:25:55] for [1:25:57] your consideration that we're bringing [1:25:58] to you. This is called the Willow Ranch [1:26:01] project and again we have the landowners [1:26:04] are here this evening [1:26:06] should we have any questions. [1:26:08] And they are partnering with the Utah [1:26:10] Agricultural Land Trust on this project. [1:26:14] And so we have a a over 100 acres, [1:26:17] um, on two parcels. [1:26:20] And one thing you may not be able to see [1:26:22] it there, but, um, the road along the [1:26:25] southeast portion of, uh, the parcel on [1:26:29] the east, there is called Center Street. [1:26:33] >> We got Whiskey Lane and Center Street. [1:26:35] >> That is the Center Street that comes all [1:26:37] the way to downtown Logging. [1:26:39] >> Oh, Center. [1:26:40] >> Center Street. I thought you said [1:26:41] Sinner. [1:26:42] >> [laughter] [1:26:44] » Don't tell her about Cannibal Road. [1:26:47] >> [laughter] [1:26:49] >> Yeah, then we have Cannibal Road. [1:26:50] >> Sinner Street. [1:26:51] >> So, Center Street, [1:26:53] um, [1:26:54] and so, one of the unique things I [1:26:56] discovered about this project, if you're [1:26:59] in downtown Logging and you're standing [1:27:01] under the arch on Center Street and you [1:27:04] look due west, this is part of the [1:27:07] landscape that is framed by [1:27:09] [clears throat] the tree-lined street [1:27:11] down Center Street that you see in the [1:27:13] background. [1:27:14] Um, so, it's pretty [1:27:17] important, you know, from a number of [1:27:20] vistas across the county, even though [1:27:22] it's not on a highway. [1:27:24] Um, [1:27:26] the farm's been in the family for over [1:27:28] 150 years, has a intermittent stream [1:27:32] that flows through, [1:27:34] um, the property and, uh, the landowners [1:27:37] are actively working on restoring, [1:27:40] um, [1:27:41] the property there. [1:27:44] It's also, uh, that [1:27:47] southwest corner of the upper parcel [1:27:51] there [1:27:52] touches, uh, US Forest Service land. [1:27:55] And so, it does connect [1:27:58] to public land. [1:28:02] Um, similar to the previous projects [1:28:03] we've brought to you recently, we're in [1:28:05] the first round here and and looking for [1:28:08] round one approval from the council. Um, [1:28:11] I won't go over the scoring process, but [1:28:14] I'll just jump right cut right to the [1:28:16] chase. [1:28:18] Um, [1:28:19] this project scored 58 out of 100, uh, [1:28:23] which is a great score, um, scoring [1:28:26] similar to a couple of the other [1:28:27] projects we've brought to you recently [1:28:29] on that West Gateway area. Those prop- [1:28:32] properties and projects are north of of [1:28:35] this one, but not very far north. So, [1:28:38] um, they're all part of that same [1:28:39] landscape [1:28:41] if you're Highway heading, uh, west and [1:28:45] you're looking at the Wellsville [1:28:47] Mountain, this project, the Hat J Ranch [1:28:49] and the Poulsen family [1:28:51] uh, farm, they're all viewable from [1:28:55] um, [1:28:56] Valley View Highway. [1:29:00] Uh, protect scenic vistas, so this is, [1:29:02] as mentioned, a pretty scenic parcel, [1:29:05] um, got eight out of 15, [1:29:07] uh, score. [1:29:10] Uh, it is near a valley gateway, though [1:29:13] it's not along it, so it did garner some [1:29:15] points, um, because it can be viewed [1:29:18] from from the gateway and Highway 30, [1:29:20] which is only about a mile and a half [1:29:23] away. [1:29:26] It is primarily agricultural land, so it [1:29:29] got a high score for agriculture, 11 out [1:29:32] of 15. [1:29:34] Um, there are [1:29:36] intermittent uh, stream channels through [1:29:38] the property and active works [1:29:40] by the landowners and, [1:29:43] um, establishing some uh, [1:29:46] beaver dam analogs on the property. [1:29:51] Wildlife habitat is, uh, [1:29:54] similar to the other projects we've [1:29:56] looked at, so [1:29:58] it's 10 out of 15 [1:30:00] in this area. [1:30:02] And then there's moose on that land? [1:30:04] >> What's that? [1:30:04] >> There's moose on the land? [1:30:06] >> Yeah, they down from the forest, [1:30:08] actually. [1:30:09] >> Wow. [1:30:10] >> So, they have [1:30:11] >> has been [1:30:11] mother and child there a couple of [1:30:14] years. Sometimes we might have [1:30:16] We have a pond. [1:30:18] >> Wow. [1:30:19] That's cool. [1:30:22] » Um [1:30:23] the landowners are willing to consider [1:30:27] public access, and one of the [1:30:28] interesting things about it is that that [1:30:30] western along the western boundary there [1:30:32] is a prescriptive easement to allow [1:30:34] access to the Forest Service. So, [1:30:37] there's um [1:30:38] ranchers that use that as an access if [1:30:40] they're bringing their livestock um [1:30:43] through the area to the adjacent parcels [1:30:45] or onto Forest Service property. [1:30:47] Um [1:30:48] and it doesn't have a great connection to to a public road, [1:30:54] necessarily, but in the future um as [1:30:58] this part of the valley continues to [1:31:00] grow and um [1:31:03] develop, then there could be an [1:31:06] opportunity to make that connection to [1:31:08] the property [1:31:09] via public access. [1:31:13] And then lastly, distinguishing factors, [1:31:16] um just just a few items, [1:31:20] uh the importance of the open space, [1:31:22] it's sort of the backdrop um to some [1:31:24] important views in the valley, and it's [1:31:27] near the valley gateway. [1:31:32] Okay, so similarly, um [1:31:34] we'd like to [1:31:36] seek your round one approval so that uh [1:31:39] we can work with the landowners and the [1:31:41] Agricultural Land Trust to um bring uh [1:31:46] the project specifics to round two and learn more about the project and its [1:31:52] potential. [1:31:54] Any questions I can help answer or [1:31:58] >> I would move [1:32:00] Pass resolution 2026-20 [1:32:03] for the Willow Ranch open space [1:32:05] application and moving it on to [1:32:07] uh that providing round one approval. [1:32:10] >> Second. [1:32:11] >> Okay, thank you. Any discussion? All [1:32:14] those in favor say I. [1:32:15] >> I. [1:32:16] >> Okay, thank you Chris and thank you. [1:32:19] for coming. [1:32:22] Okay. [1:32:24] We're going to circle back [1:32:26] to item C. [1:32:28] Thank you Matt. [1:32:31] Resolution 2026-17. [1:32:37] The opening and amending the [1:32:39] Cash County 2026 budget. May we [1:32:41] questions for our auditor? [1:32:47] » From our co-creations meeting it was [1:32:49] fun to see something that's [1:32:51] not taking money out. [1:32:54] >> Yeah. [1:32:55] >> So. [1:32:56] >> Thank you to all your work you've done. [1:32:59] >> This is considered a special [1:33:01] >> And I just need to say [1:33:02] uh council chair that [1:33:05] my staff [1:33:08] » Please pass along our appreciation. [1:33:11] >> It So is this a special budget opening [1:33:14] then rather than our [1:33:15] >> It is not. It is the [1:33:16] >> This is our quarterly and this is the [1:33:17] only item? [1:33:19] >> Yes. [1:33:20] >> Holy moly. [1:33:21] >> 40 items. [1:33:22] >> There's a lot of them. Did you see [1:33:23] >> 40 items in there. [1:33:24] >> I know. [1:33:24] >> 19 pages. 20 [1:33:26] >> It the one big one that you talked about [1:33:29] with the wraps and everything. [1:33:31] >> Yes, uh the fact that the council [1:33:33] um to use the word I used in preparation [1:33:35] so adroitly addressed the wraps tax with [1:33:38] such um [1:33:39] alacrity allows us to [1:33:42] put the wraps funding into this so we [1:33:43] don't need to have a special wraps [1:33:45] opening here in a couple of weeks. [1:33:58] Uh while you're thinking uh I note [1:34:00] there's a big airport capital project in [1:34:03] this, but the FAA is paying for 95% of [1:34:06] it. [1:34:07] So, the airport already has the funds [1:34:11] for the remainder. So, there's no county money involved in that [1:34:15] particular [1:34:16] endeavor. [1:34:19] >> Is that project been solidified by FAA? [1:34:22] Is it a for sure? Okay. [1:34:28] » So, what's the total increase? [1:34:31] >> 170,000. [1:34:32] >> The total [1:34:33] >> line. [1:34:34] >> The total increase across every fund [1:34:38] is is $6.3 million. [1:34:41] Now, of that $6.3 million a million of [1:34:44] that is is revenue from other [1:34:46] governments, federal and state, and [1:34:50] pretty much the rest of it is coming [1:34:51] from RAP funding. [1:34:54] So, in fact, it's [1:34:56] because we have RAP funding now, we are [1:34:59] able to go back and decrease [1:35:02] the amount of of of funds that we were [1:35:05] going to expend from the general fund. [1:35:07] And so, we're actually putting [1:35:09] 177,000 [1:35:12] back into the general fund. [1:35:15] >> That's exciting. [1:35:17] >> So, the net amount [1:35:20] Do you have a Not just an estimate's [1:35:22] good. [1:35:24] >> Well, it it will increase the the the total [1:35:27] expenditures from $133 million [1:35:31] countywide to $140 million. [1:35:37] » Even taking into consideration all these [1:35:40] variables you mentioned. [1:35:42] >> Most of that is RAP funding. RAP funding [1:35:45] is $5.1 million. So, of the of the $6.3 [1:35:48] million [1:35:49] in expenditures, RAP funding is is [1:35:52] roughly 5.1 million of that, and then [1:35:55] we've got federal government coming in [1:35:57] for [1:35:58] about a million. [1:36:03] » Okay. [1:36:04] They're posted? [1:36:06] >> I will make a motion on resolution [1:36:07] 2026-20 [1:36:09] providing round one approval. No. [1:36:11] >> That's 17. [1:36:12] >> 17. [1:36:12] >> Got me mixed up on the C. [1:36:14] >> It's C. I'm sorry. [1:36:16] >> I was all excited we down the page. [1:36:18] All right. Resolution 2026-17 [1:36:21] opening and amending the Cache County [1:36:23] 2026 budget third amendment. I say we [1:36:25] approve it. [1:36:28] » Second. Any second? [1:36:31] >> I'll second that. [1:36:33] >> Okay. [1:36:33] >> Don't leave me hanging. [1:36:34] >> Thank you. Thank you. Further [1:36:36] discussion. [1:36:37] All those in favor say I. [1:36:39] >> I. [1:36:40] >> Thank you. [1:36:42] Thanks, Matt. [1:36:43] Pending items. [1:36:46] A. [1:36:48] Mr. Executive. [1:36:49] >> Okay. Um [1:36:50] >> [clears throat] [1:36:52] >> We've worked on this uh [1:36:54] during the April 21st meeting you [1:36:57] approved to have that developer come to [1:36:59] our road. [1:37:01] Uh [1:37:02] the developer because of that was able [1:37:04] to submit a subdivision application to [1:37:07] River Heights. [1:37:09] Uh [1:37:10] we're we're providing you an update of [1:37:12] what the consequence of that is. [1:37:15] Uh [1:37:17] Matt Thillitson talked to the River [1:37:19] Heights City, [1:37:21] and the council member who is in charge [1:37:24] of the project, and they have received a [1:37:27] preliminary plat for that subdivision. [1:37:31] Uh [1:37:33] Copy of the comments in the planning [1:37:36] commission are with this packet that I'm [1:37:39] going to give Anne to and add allow you [1:37:42] to add that to the record of this [1:37:44] meeting so you can review it. [1:37:47] Uh based upon discussions with River [1:37:49] Heights City staff, the next staff the [1:37:52] next step will be to get their plans [1:37:56] for the connection to our highway. We [1:38:00] anticipate that'll be received in [1:38:04] two to three [clears throat] months. [1:38:06] And then at that point, we'll [1:38:09] uh, Matt will go over it and see whether [1:38:11] it it meets our necessary criteria. [1:38:15] And if it does, we will [1:38:18] formally approve it and the project is [1:38:21] underway. [1:38:22] >> They can take that long on a subdivision [1:38:24] approval? [1:38:24] >> It's their task. [1:38:26] >> Yes, but [1:38:27] >> It's I I think it's [1:38:29] >> We don't get that long on the county. [1:38:30] >> they're going to be doing at the same [1:38:32] time, but [1:38:33] we don't expect to see this until about [1:38:36] two or three months. Is that right, [1:38:38] Matt? [1:38:40] So, that's an update. [1:38:42] My suggestion is that you take this [1:38:44] thing that's on your agenda every [1:38:48] two weeks and put it out three months. [1:38:53] Now, that's one part of highway County [1:38:57] Road 238. There's a couple of other [1:39:00] parts that you need to be aware of. [1:39:03] Millville [1:39:04] has filled in cuts [1:39:07] and we're talking about trying to do a [1:39:10] chip and seal there. We're going to be [1:39:13] asking Millville [1:39:15] to correct those uh, trenches so that we [1:39:20] won't have the problem that's now [1:39:21] occurring where the ground is sinking. [1:39:25] Providence [1:39:27] has asked us to work with them in [1:39:30] getting school crossings done because [1:39:33] they're changing what was a middle [1:39:35] school to an elementary school, so they [1:39:37] want additional crossing. My [1:39:40] understanding is Providence [1:39:42] has ordered those and is prepared to pay [1:39:45] for them, but we're going to have to [1:39:46] have Matt review those to make sure they [1:39:49] meet our standards. [1:39:51] Okay, those are the things that are [1:39:53] happening with the highway. [1:39:56] Any questions? [1:39:59] >> This is job security for Matt, this [1:40:01] flipping thing here. [1:40:03] >> [laughter] [1:40:04] >> Yes, I think for two or three months [1:40:06] he's safe. [1:40:11] » We could give it to him tonight. [1:40:12] >> I would appreciate the report if you [1:40:17] Add that Excuse me, here's the better [1:40:19] copy. Let's add that one [1:40:21] >> And that one? [1:40:22] >> to the agenda so that you have it. [1:40:26] >> We got to give us a written statement [1:40:28] yes, will you? [1:40:31] » Yeah, I can do that. [1:40:33] >> Yeah, scan it into the minutes. [1:40:35] >> Yeah. [1:40:36] >> But it can be put into [1:40:38] this record that it was just received. [1:40:41] >> Mander? [1:40:41] >> Uh according to state law, one of the [1:40:44] members of the county legislative body [1:40:45] has to [1:40:46] >> Receive it. [1:40:47] >> has to [1:40:48] essentially tell me to put this in the [1:40:49] record. Though I appreciate it, it has [1:40:52] to be one of you all to [1:40:53] >> Will you put that in the record, please? [1:40:55] Thanks, Andrew. [1:40:57] Thank you. [1:40:58] And [1:41:00] that's everything for that? [1:41:02] >> Yes. Unless you have any questions. [1:41:05] >> I Matt, you want to [1:41:07] We make your life better? [1:41:09] >> Just give it to him tonight. [1:41:10] >> Give it to him tonight, be that. [1:41:14] And they get to do all that. [1:41:15] >> I know we're trying to We're trying to [1:41:17] help out, but sometimes helping out [1:41:23] it just keeps it can cost you a lot of [1:41:25] money and that rather than say, "Merry [1:41:27] Christmas." [1:41:28] >> this. [1:41:29] >> We got to get our executive group to [1:41:30] talk to Providence. I mean, [1:41:32] aren't they hailing from Providence [1:41:34] here? [1:41:35] >> Yeah. [1:41:37] >> I'm just, you know, rubbing your nose in [1:41:39] it for a bit. [1:41:40] >> Or maybe he could withhold his property [1:41:42] taxes from Maybe he could withhold his [1:41:44] property taxes from them. [1:41:46] >> Just maybe. [1:41:47] >> Okay, ordinance 2026-21 [1:41:49] amending chapter 17.14 on the resort [1:41:52] recreation RR zone. [1:41:56] Brian Abbott [1:41:57] >> Our clerk. [1:41:59] >> RR [1:42:00] >> We need to first one. [1:42:07] » We've gone over this before. Do you have [1:42:09] any questions? You want me to go through [1:42:10] the whole thing again? [1:42:12] >> Oh, please. [1:42:13] >> [laughter] [1:42:15] >> Please everything. [1:42:15] >> Um [1:42:16] Angie and I did meet with Sandy and [1:42:18] Andrews the other day. [1:42:20] Kind of went over any of concerns she [1:42:23] had. I thought that was a good meeting [1:42:25] and we came to a pretty good [1:42:26] understanding. [1:42:27] Um [1:42:29] I don't know if we want to wait till she [1:42:30] gets back or go for it. [1:42:38] » Was there anything in that meeting [1:42:40] different than what the planning and [1:42:41] zoning had done? [1:42:42] Talked about? [1:42:43] >> Uh we updated a few things. We revised [1:42:46] it a few things that they had concerns [1:42:48] about. Um we can go over those if you [1:42:52] would like. [1:42:54] Um [1:42:57] Which one are you on there? Yeah, right [1:42:59] there. [1:42:59] >> If you change it, has it got to go back [1:43:01] to planning and zoning? [1:43:02] >> Yeah. [1:43:06] » I would think it would have to if we're [1:43:07] changing it. [1:43:08] >> Yeah. [1:43:08] >> Yep. [1:43:10] >> They're the land use authority. They're the land use. [1:43:12] >> If we change it or it has been changes, [1:43:15] it's got to hit the P&Z again. [1:43:16] >> Um yeah, we just cleaned up the format a [1:43:18] little. [1:43:20] Um [1:43:20] it was ABCD, now it's A 1 2 B. So [1:43:25] >> Formatting? [1:43:27] >> If we need to take it back to the [1:43:28] >> Substantive changes are [1:43:30] >> Pardon? [1:43:30] >> Substantive substantive changes are [1:43:33] >> Yeah, we just kind of cleaned up the [1:43:35] format and added some numbers. [1:43:40] » So, did we have a question on the land [1:43:42] use authority, who that was? Did that [1:43:45] get clarified in there? [1:43:46] >> Yeah. Yeah. [1:43:48] >> Yeah, it got clarified that here and [1:43:50] there, so. [1:43:55] » What do you want to do? Do you want to [1:43:56] take action tonight? [1:43:59] Do you want to take action? [1:44:00] >> It's going to start feeling like the [1:44:01] road one if we don't. [1:44:02] >> It's perpetually beyond [1:44:04] >> [laughter] [1:44:05] >> We just [1:44:06] keep rolling forward. [1:44:07] >> So, you're saying there's there's no [1:44:09] wording or anything different, it's just [1:44:11] the layout? [1:44:14] » Still though. [1:44:19] » Dean, is P&Z the land use or what? [1:44:21] >> not substantive, but it's just [1:44:23] formatting, then it doesn't need to go [1:44:25] back to them. [1:44:25] >> Okay. [1:44:27] >> Yeah, the [1:44:28] uh the original the one from May is on [1:44:31] there. [1:44:31] Um all the same except the format of it. [1:44:40] » Then I [1:44:41] I'm ready to make a motion. I like to [1:44:43] follow the planning and zoning, so. [1:44:47] Um ordinance 2026-21 [1:44:50] amending amending chapter 17.14 on the [1:44:53] resort recreation RR zone, I say we [1:44:56] approve. [1:44:59] » So, second the motion. [1:45:03] » I like people hanging me out this night, [1:45:05] so. [1:45:09] It's like I'm dying. [1:45:11] >> Yeah. [1:45:15] Three, two, [1:45:16] >> One, done. [1:45:18] >> I'll second that. [1:45:19] >> Okay. [1:45:20] Still alive. Okay, discussion. It seems [1:45:23] we need some discussion on the motion on [1:45:25] the [1:45:25] >> Yeah, know, as I it, it's there was [1:45:28] It isn't anything that's confusing, but [1:45:30] it's just [1:45:33] There's just some huge There's no [1:45:35] concept. [1:45:36] >> huge concept [1:45:37] >> Yeah, or uh [1:45:38] I don't know. Impacts that that could [1:45:41] that occur that Yeah, we just can't walk [1:45:43] away from everything up there. [1:45:46] >> It's a lot of [1:45:48] >> tax dollar lot. And and we are we're [1:45:49] covering the base, but it's I just don't [1:45:51] want to just [1:45:52] kind of just give up give the farm [1:45:54] because [1:45:55] They're the They're the red-headed [1:45:56] stepchild kind of thing. [1:45:57] >> We'll always know what's going on up [1:45:59] there. [1:45:59] >> Yeah, we've got to. It's a [1:46:01] So, anyway, I'm still still second that. [1:46:06] » My my concerns are just [1:46:09] as we're changing it from the [1:46:11] development agreement [1:46:14] to just abiding by the master plan. [1:46:17] I just operationally I just haven't been [1:46:19] able to wrap my head around it fully [1:46:20] about how we're going to make sure we do [1:46:22] that right. [1:46:22] >> There is an email that was sent to you [1:46:24] today that might give you some insight. [1:46:27] >> Yeah, and I haven't seen that yet today. [1:46:28] >> came, so. [1:46:29] >> Olga [1:46:30] Mariasina [1:46:33] >> Yeah. [1:46:34] Sorry. [1:46:35] And then also something from Mr. Webb [1:46:37] about what we're talking about up there, [1:46:39] too. [1:46:43] » And and their master plan [1:46:45] um [1:46:46] is way more involved than even our code. [1:46:48] >> Right, yeah. But [1:46:49] just ensuring we enforce or follow [1:46:53] you know [1:46:54] Yeah, but there's [1:46:55] >> master plan and all we have to ensure [1:46:56] that it's abided by. [1:46:58] >> Sure. [1:47:00] » Thank you, Kurt. [1:47:02] >> Questions? [1:47:04] Particular ones? [1:47:07] He and I had a discussion today on this [1:47:10] letter, and I went over and I encourage [1:47:13] you guys all to look at it and go over [1:47:14] it, too, but [1:47:16] from what Kurt's put into it, it seems [1:47:19] that [1:47:21] my concerns were is [1:47:25] everybody kept saying the county was [1:47:26] going to get all this money and [1:47:27] everything else. I don't think we are, [1:47:30] but I think we're not going to be [1:47:31] spending money and everything there, [1:47:33] too. So, [1:47:35] net net on revenue taking costs, right? [1:47:38] >> Yes, every service that we have to have them [1:47:42] do for us, [1:47:43] we have arranged for them to do it for [1:47:45] no more than we pay or to have them do [1:47:47] it [1:47:49] by expanding their fire district, for [1:47:51] example, and taking over sewer and water [1:47:54] by the expansion of the their district [1:47:55] up there that does that. And [1:47:58] fees, we've got [1:48:01] currently, there are [1:48:03] uh [1:48:03] interlocal agreements that are being [1:48:05] written for your approval [1:48:07] that that that talk about these [1:48:09] standards that you're that you're [1:48:11] passing now. [1:48:12] So, you've got [1:48:15] We rely heavily, of course, on our [1:48:18] development services people to review [1:48:19] this What is it? 1,300 pages, [1:48:21] approximately? [1:48:23] Those design standards are more strict [1:48:26] than either one of the county's codes. [1:48:29] And so, they've agreed to abide by them. [1:48:31] We've agreed to abide by them. And we [1:48:34] will keep updates as far as what they're [1:48:35] doing, but we don't have to approve [1:48:37] their approve them as long as they are [1:48:39] in compliance with what we've both [1:48:41] agreed to. [1:48:44] >> I think the other thing to point out is [1:48:45] the sewer and water, they take care of [1:48:47] it. The fire, they take care of it. [1:48:51] >> So, we're involved from the assessor and [1:48:54] >> Well, the assessor and the recorder. [1:48:55] >> Recorder. [1:48:56] >> And the [1:48:58] uh [1:48:59] the treasurer, of course. [1:49:00] >> When you say they take care of it, [1:49:02] that's by an- they're annexing into [1:49:04] their special services district. Yeah? [1:49:06] >> Okay. [1:49:06] >> Pardon me? [1:49:07] >> He said by them taking care of it, it's [1:49:09] they're annexing into their special [1:49:10] services districts. [1:49:13] >> Yes, fire is doing that and uh so is [1:49:15] sewer and water. [1:49:16] >> sewer and water? [1:49:17] has already done it. The [1:49:18] process for fire is in process. [1:49:21] It's happening. [1:49:22] >> Kurt, why don't you explain what our [1:49:25] arrangement is with respect to [1:49:27] education, recognizing that education is [1:49:30] about 60, 65% [1:49:34] of our tax bill? [1:49:36] >> So, Cache County School District will [1:49:38] get to keep the normal Cache County [1:49:40] School District [1:49:41] portion of the taxes. [1:49:43] And then [1:49:44] the [1:49:46] if there are school-age children that [1:49:48] are permanent residents that have to be [1:49:50] educated in the Weber County School [1:49:52] District, then that's done on a per [1:49:54] student by basis. And so, we would only [1:49:56] have to pay for the amount of students [1:49:58] that we actually have. [1:49:59] >> Isn't it enormously beneficial [1:50:02] >> to the school district? So, can we cut [1:50:03] their percentage of our tax base so [1:50:06] >> Yeah. [1:50:06] >> we get some back? [1:50:07] >> good idea. [1:50:08] >> Yeah. [1:50:09] Right. Cuz they're getting a freebie [1:50:10] here. [1:50:13] >> Only in the extent that you take [1:50:15] somebody [1:50:16] drop money from the sky. Uh [1:50:19] >> Well, that's what they kept telling me [1:50:21] when they came to planning zone. [1:50:24] » The total taxes we collect from this [1:50:28] property a year is how much, Kurt? [1:50:31] >> A hundred for us? [1:50:32] >> Yeah. [1:50:33] >> $25,000. [1:50:35] >> It's It's pretty hard to view that as [1:50:38] >> a windfall. [1:50:39] >> a significant [1:50:41] >> Yeah. [1:50:41] >> And then, [1:50:42] the the problem is all these services [1:50:46] that need to be rendered up there to [1:50:49] for the 25,000, if we had to provide [1:50:52] those services. [1:50:55] >> But, isn't there substantial [1:50:57] area that is to be developed? So, this [1:51:00] is set up a framework for when that [1:51:01] development occurs. [1:51:03] >> Yes. Yes, it it could be more [1:51:05] substantial over time, but [1:51:08] what what we've got here is a situation [1:51:11] in which [1:51:12] it will handle that. [1:51:14] >> Yeah. [1:51:15] >> Where [1:51:16] there may be some spare money at some [1:51:18] point there. But like it because the districts and things are not coming [1:51:26] through us. They're coming directly from [1:51:28] the homeowner. [1:51:28] >> Yeah. [1:51:30] >> The school will certainly benefit, but [1:51:32] the idea that there's a huge [1:51:36] value that's going to come to us [1:51:37] >> is [1:51:39] >> Maybe someday it will be larger than it [1:51:41] is now, but [1:51:44] >> Okay, are we going to give them taxing [1:51:47] authority [1:51:48] >> No. [1:51:48] >> in our county? [1:51:50] >> Are we going to give fire taxing [1:51:52] authority in our county [1:51:53] >> Give their fire district taxing [1:51:55] authority [1:51:56] over properties in our county. [1:51:58] >> That's Yes, they are. [1:52:00] They're allowed to expand their [1:52:01] boundaries. [1:52:01] >> Only by agreement [1:52:04] with the [1:52:05] >> with our fire district. [1:52:06] right? Okay. [1:52:08] >> Yeah. So, they don't get double taxed. [1:52:09] We move back and let them do that and [1:52:11] give the service. [1:52:12] >> So, that would be an approval by the [1:52:14] Cache County Fire District. [1:52:16] >> And that's those [1:52:17] >> So, that if they if they go to taxation [1:52:19] through through truth and taxation up [1:52:21] into this area [1:52:22] uh that would only bite that would have [1:52:25] to then go by the approval of the fire [1:52:27] district, the Cache County Fire [1:52:28] District. [1:52:28] >> No, once we get once we move out of [1:52:30] there [1:52:31] we see that that territory and they take [1:52:34] it over. [1:52:35] So, from then on the taxation, all of [1:52:37] that is done by Weber Fire as a separate [1:52:41] taxing entity. [1:52:42] >> So, it it's just a one-time [1:52:44] action for us. [1:52:47] » Let me a little background there. [1:52:50] >> And so does your water and sewer. [1:52:53] >> Yeah. [1:52:54] >> The reason that this is important [1:52:56] David is because [1:52:58] the original agreement was that they [1:53:01] would [1:53:02] that we would pay them what they charge [1:53:05] for fire. [1:53:07] Turns out they charge four times as much [1:53:09] for fire as we do. [1:53:11] So, [1:53:12] for example, of the $25,000 [1:53:15] we collect, they wanted $19,000 of it [1:53:18] just to do fire. [1:53:20] So, in order to negotiate that, we had [1:53:22] to figure out could they could they [1:53:24] expand their territory on their for [1:53:26] fire? [1:53:27] And [1:53:28] went back and forth on that for a long [1:53:30] time and finally got good counsel from [1:53:32] the Utah Association of Special [1:53:34] Districts. They said yes, they could do [1:53:36] it. And [1:53:38] there's just been a lot of back and [1:53:39] forth with Weber County [1:53:41] uh on issues other than Development [1:53:43] Services. Development Services, I've [1:53:45] relied heavily on Development Services [1:53:47] to get to negotiate and to [1:53:49] uh [1:53:51] and to massage those [1:53:53] that uh [1:53:54] those design standards so that we were [1:53:56] protected. [1:53:57] So, I'll let them speak to that, but as [1:54:00] far as the other things, [1:54:02] it was my understanding that we [1:54:04] needed to provide these things we [1:54:05] couldn't provide them. Everything we can [1:54:07] provide, we're still providing. [1:54:10] Everything that we can't provide and had [1:54:11] to either [1:54:13] pay them to do [1:54:16] or that we had to have them expand [1:54:18] territory so that we didn't have to tax [1:54:20] it or do it, [1:54:21] in every one of those cases, it's not [1:54:23] going to cost us any more than we would [1:54:25] have paid ourselves. [1:54:27] And that was a concern all along. The [1:54:29] only thing that's up in the air, I'll [1:54:30] disclose this, is that the sheriff has [1:54:33] negotia- negotiated with their sheriff [1:54:36] to do it on an hourly basis. [1:54:38] Since there's hardly anybody over there [1:54:40] right now, he felt that that was the [1:54:41] most economical way to do it. [1:54:44] That is not quantifiable right now. So, [1:54:49] that that could change and we may have [1:54:51] to renegotiate that at some point. [1:54:54] But, that's the only one that that [1:54:56] doesn't have uh strict parameters. [1:55:02] » Okay. [1:55:04] >> I really compliment Kurt and development [1:55:07] services for dealing with a very complex [1:55:09] problem here. [1:55:12] » I would like to say thanks to the [1:55:14] executive group because this is far more [1:55:16] than we've got than what we had before [1:55:18] because we were being told we're going [1:55:20] to make so much money and I just kept [1:55:22] disagreeing with that. It just didn't work out. So, at least [1:55:26] we're [1:55:27] on a path. [1:55:28] >> Albeit crestfallen. [1:55:32] » But crestfallen that there's not as much [1:55:34] money as you thought. [1:55:35] >> a cash cow like we were told. [1:55:37] Thank you. If if we want to continue, I [1:55:40] know Sandy was was deeply [1:55:42] interested in this, but I don't [1:55:45] I think she'd be fine if we passed it [1:55:46] tonight, too. [1:55:49] » Motion and a second and we've had some [1:55:51] discussion. Any further [1:55:53] comment? [1:55:56] » I'd like to see it continued [1:55:58] personally. [1:56:01] » Question. [1:56:04] For vote. [1:56:04] >> Okay. [1:56:06] Um all those in favor, say I. [1:56:08] Any opposed? [1:56:10] >> I'll say nay. [1:56:11] >> We have one opposed. [1:56:13] Okay. [1:56:14] Thank you again. [1:56:16] Appreciation [1:56:17] to everyone involved. [1:56:21] Okay. [1:56:22] Other business. [1:56:24] Um [1:56:25] UIAC has their justice summit that is [1:56:28] on June 26th. [1:56:31] Do we have any council members that are [1:56:32] able to attend? [1:56:34] >> Where's that at? [1:56:34] >> be going and I will be going and I will [1:56:36] be going since we're part of the CJCC as [1:56:38] well and the county attorney and the [1:56:39] county sheriff. [1:56:40] >> Okay. So, we do it It is [1:56:43] in Salt Lake. [1:56:46] >> Technically Murray, but yes. [1:56:47] >> Murray. [1:56:49] So, we do have representation from the [1:56:51] county that will be attending and if [1:56:54] others are able to attend, [1:56:56] please communicate with Andrew. [1:56:58] Um [1:57:00] got a list of upcoming parades. [1:57:04] Uh we need to make sure that we are [1:57:06] registered for any of these parades if [1:57:08] we want to uh participate, so [1:57:12] uh [1:57:13] do you guys know your calendars or [1:57:15] I think we're planning for Do you have [1:57:17] us registered for Hiram [1:57:19] and Lewiston? [1:57:20] >> Lewiston. [1:57:21] Uh [1:57:22] the Lewiston organizer has not gotten [1:57:24] back to me, but the other ones I believe [1:57:26] I've registered you. [1:57:27] >> Cool. Thank you. And And is [1:57:29] >> all of these are registered? [1:57:31] >> Hiram, D- [1:57:31] >> No, no, just D- Hiram, so Newfield, [1:57:33] Hiram, and then Lewiston. [1:57:35] >> Okay. [1:57:35] >> Those are the ones I've done so far. [1:57:37] >> Okay. [1:57:39] Great. Is anyone able to attend Newfield [1:57:41] besides me? [1:57:43] >> I'll be out of town. Sorry. [1:57:45] >> What side? [1:57:48] >> Such a great parade. [1:57:49] >> We've We've talked a lot about this. [1:57:52] >> Oh. [1:57:53] Well, [1:57:54] let's see. It might be a intimate. Might [1:57:56] just be parade of one. [1:57:59] Uh [1:58:00] okay. [1:58:01] Um council member reports. [1:58:03] We'll start Joanne. [1:58:05] >> I don't have anything. [1:58:06] >> Okay. Nolan. [1:58:08] >> Um [1:58:13] we had a meeting with development [1:58:14] services back to um some things on for [1:58:17] planning and zoning, so we've asked [1:58:19] planning and zoning [1:58:20] Brian at development services offices to [1:58:22] work on our subdivision plan and water [1:58:25] that we had brought for us, [1:58:28] tweak it a little bit, get that out. Um [1:58:31] I think given [1:58:33] what we're seeing by Mother Nature, it's [1:58:34] very important to start considering what [1:58:36] we're looking at there from from that. [1:58:38] We also talked about [1:58:40] um rental units in the county, what [1:58:43] we're looking at at that, coming up with [1:58:44] some things, so we've asked the [1:58:45] development services office [1:58:48] now that Kirk can get out of their hair, [1:58:49] maybe, yeah? [1:58:51] Let them work on some things, so [1:58:53] Now they'll still be busy with uh Powder [1:58:55] Mountain, but hopefully they can give us [1:58:57] some things on that, too. So, we'll be [1:58:59] seeing more of that, hopefully, in let [1:59:01] Planning and Zoning [1:59:03] do that again and then bring it back to [1:59:05] us. I think that's an important thing we [1:59:06] need to work on. [1:59:08] That's all I have. [1:59:08] >> Thank you. [1:59:10] Um [1:59:12] I [1:59:13] uh was invited by Chief George, all of [1:59:15] us were invited by Chief George to uh [1:59:18] attended a multi [1:59:21] divisional [1:59:22] uh training that they had for the fire [1:59:25] up Blacksmith Fork Canyon and [1:59:28] 2 weeks a week ago? I I don't know. [1:59:30] Time. [1:59:31] 10 days ago, probably. And um [1:59:35] I went up there and it was [1:59:37] super interesting. They had um [1:59:41] he'll probably correct me, but I think [1:59:43] they had So, they had representatives [1:59:45] from the Forest um [1:59:47] like the US [1:59:50] Forest Department. [1:59:51] >> Forest Service. [1:59:51] Services, thank you. Um [1:59:53] Fire Division. And then they had um [1:59:57] like Weber and uh they had all the way [2:00:00] down to Alpine. So, many different [2:00:03] departments and then our department. And [2:00:05] then they had um state agencies that [2:00:08] were there, too. So, we had federal [2:00:09] agencies and our agencies and and state [2:00:12] agencies. They were all together and [2:00:13] they did training. And I thought what I [2:00:16] thought was really fascinating is they [2:00:17] don't All these different agencies don't [2:00:21] even use the same radio frequencies when [2:00:24] they are radioing each other. So, it's [2:00:26] like they have to learn, you know, if [2:00:28] you if we have a disaster and we're [2:00:30] calling in these different agencies they [2:00:32] don't want to have to learn day of how [2:00:34] to use each other's equipment or how to [2:00:36] even com- communicate with each other. [2:00:38] So, they are you know, having these [2:00:41] multi-departmental training so that they [2:00:43] can [2:00:44] have be prepared beforehand. Um and they [2:00:47] had videos of showing me how they were [2:00:51] um our our our department was guiding [2:00:56] the chopper with the bucket into the [2:00:59] like inflatable swimming pools to fill [2:01:01] it up with water and how they could [2:01:02] learn to do that. Um, now again before [2:01:05] disaster, um, there was they they showed [2:01:09] me all sorts of um [2:01:11] different drills that they had learned. [2:01:13] I had dinner with them. Um, it was a [2:01:15] really great experience and I enjoyed it [2:01:17] very much and um [2:01:19] that we have a great staff and I'm glad [2:01:22] that we were able to uh see the training [2:01:24] and that we were able to host that [2:01:25] training and they they really [2:01:26] appreciated and everyone um there [2:01:28] appreciates the county and I think that [2:01:32] all the different departments, I think [2:01:33] we won something or maybe it was Alpine, [2:01:35] I don't know. I'll say we won. Alpine [2:01:37] had such a fancy rig up there. It was [2:01:40] really fancy, but ours was humble and [2:01:43] but it was okay. We still were really [2:01:45] represented well. But, um, we really I [2:01:47] really enjoyed that. Going in the same [2:01:49] vein as fire, um [2:01:51] we had a meeting where we had a [2:01:54] an informal workshop to listen to those [2:01:58] that are employed um in the fire [2:02:02] uh [2:02:03] the different fire departments across [2:02:04] the county as they have expressed [2:02:07] concern for um not being able to give [2:02:10] voice and and to be heard and it was [2:02:12] just a two hours of listening to them and their concerns that they [2:02:17] have with uh the fire district and uh [2:02:21] hopefully they felt that that they had [2:02:24] an opportunity to to speak and and we [2:02:27] listened to them and that their uh their [2:02:29] concerns were were taken into account. [2:02:32] So, that was last week and we have [2:02:34] another meeting with the fire department [2:02:36] Thursday, fire district on Thursday. [2:02:39] So, lots going on with the fire [2:02:41] district. Um [2:02:43] Uh [2:02:43] other than that, I I don't have any [2:02:45] additional additional [2:02:46] >> other thing um if you want to mention [2:02:48] the UAC call yesterday. [2:02:50] >> Yes, UAC call yesterday. We had an um [2:02:53] uh [2:02:54] Brandy had called an emergency UAC [2:02:56] um call for [2:02:58] I mean, we'll call it what it is. I [2:03:00] think all of us U sacks. It was just the [2:03:03] Yes, just the councils and commissions [2:03:06] to talk about and get ahead of um [2:03:10] We know we've all witnessed what has [2:03:11] happened across mountain with um Box [2:03:14] Elder and how we can learn more about [2:03:19] uh data centers and and learn about the [2:03:23] what they've experienced but also um [2:03:25] messaging in our communities and um I [2:03:29] think it's it was really good. They're [2:03:30] going to put together um information and [2:03:33] have an informational session for us and [2:03:36] I look forward to that so we can all [2:03:37] learn um here within within uh the state [2:03:41] to see the impact that it has and and [2:03:43] the the need that we have for those but [2:03:45] also the need to learn about them and to [2:03:48] help with the messaging across the [2:03:49] state. Do you guys have anything else [2:03:50] you want to [2:03:52] share about that? [2:03:53] >> send that email today. So [2:03:54] >> Yeah, Brandy did. [2:03:56] >> Did she send it to everybody on the [2:03:57] council? [2:03:58] >> Uh [2:03:59] >> Or just those that was on the [2:04:01] >> I know I got it. I don't know. [2:04:03] >> It was sent on Friday morning. [2:04:05] >> GOED communication and survey link [2:04:07] below. So Have we had Has anybody [2:04:09] >> They sent [2:04:10] >> taken that from Have we just Have any [2:04:12] one of us [2:04:13] Are we all taking it or is it supposed [2:04:14] to [2:04:14] >> that to everybody. [2:04:15] >> Okay, so it doesn't it's not redundant [2:04:17] if we all take it on the council. Okay. [2:04:19] So yeah, the GOED [2:04:21] >> And they've given us another week to to [2:04:23] find to finish that. [2:04:24] >> Okay. [2:04:25] >> I got kicked out of it twice. [2:04:27] >> Oh, so it's [2:04:28] >> So we need a week then, right? [2:04:29] >> Mhm. [2:04:31] >> I started it twice but it [2:04:33] but I was in a bad place to [2:04:36] >> The service wasn't great. [2:04:37] >> No. [2:04:37] >> Or you were in a bad place. [2:04:38] >> No, I was bailing hay and it was bouncy. [2:04:40] >> Oh. [2:04:41] >> I must have kept hitting the wrong [2:04:42] button, I think. [2:04:44] I like your tractor head shock absorbers [2:04:46] and comfort seat in it, so. [2:04:48] >> So, yeah, [2:04:49] we have a week we have until next [2:04:50] Friday. [2:04:52] Um this Friday, excuse me, this Friday [2:04:54] to take that test that that survey, so [2:04:57] um the opportunity zone survey. [2:04:59] So, encourage everyone to hop on and [2:05:01] take that survey. [2:05:03] Dave. [2:05:04] >> Uh it was interesting in that uh [2:05:06] listening to that last uh Monday morning [2:05:08] or yesterday [snorts] morning, [2:05:10] it was really interesting. [2:05:13] It's just what uh ever what ever [2:05:17] comes out, [2:05:19] an announcement of anything, [2:05:22] it's just really interesting how [2:05:24] certain [2:05:26] factions grab it and try to just make it [2:05:30] like a bigger issue than really what it [2:05:32] is. And I'm not talking just DC, that [2:05:35] is. And I'm talking about anything that [2:05:36] comes out, it's just like [2:05:38] you know, we got to blow it up before we really [2:05:41] look at it and [2:05:43] uh [2:05:44] I felt bad of for a lot of the our [2:05:46] fellow commissioners over there in uh Box Elder County as they're just trying to work through [2:05:51] things and they also have the same, [2:05:55] you know, respect for private property [2:05:57] rights as anybody else, but uh [2:05:59] anyway, it it it's tough. It's tough [2:06:00] right now, but uh [2:06:03] >> I bumped with my [clears throat] desk. [2:06:05] >> You know, it's uh it's [2:06:07] I think that I think if we go into a lot [2:06:09] of these things and look at a lot of [2:06:11] this stuff just a little more [2:06:12] open-minded, I think that uh [2:06:15] I think we'll get better results on [2:06:17] everything, whether it passes or not, [2:06:19] kind of thing. [2:06:20] We just need to [2:06:22] go through a little bit more open-minded [2:06:23] on everything that comes our way. But, [2:06:25] let's [2:06:26] I uh [2:06:29] Anyway, as far as other reports, [2:06:32] uh [2:06:33] there's a lot of moving parts right now, [2:06:35] it seems like, going on in everything. I [2:06:38] don't know if you guys feel the same [2:06:39] way. [2:06:40] Am I wrong? I mean, there's just a lot [2:06:41] of [2:06:42] you know, uh [2:06:44] I feel like we're in a rubber room [2:06:45] sometimes, cuz there's a lot of things [2:06:48] going on. [2:06:49] And uh [2:06:51] and I I I wish we could [2:06:53] kind of just methodically kind of pull [2:06:55] some of those and maybe just [2:06:59] vegetate on those later and come up with [2:07:01] some, [2:07:02] you know, [2:07:04] not everything is as high priority as we [2:07:06] think it is sometimes, so [2:07:08] that's it. [2:07:12] » Mark. [2:07:13] >> Um nothing to report on as far as [2:07:15] actions [2:07:17] that have occurred since our last [2:07:18] meeting, but just by way of things [2:07:20] happening, [2:07:21] um coming up, we've got [2:07:24] uh O&P meeting on Friday, [2:07:26] where we'll be discussing the airport [2:07:30] um authority interlocal agreement. [2:07:33] And if time permits, [2:07:35] one of the other [2:07:37] 10 items on the pending agenda. [2:07:40] Um [2:07:42] and then on [2:07:44] uh Monday, [2:07:46] 15th, um [2:07:48] the Northern Utah Outdoor Recreation [2:07:51] Initiative will be holding a workshop, [2:07:54] um just by way of update. That's a state [2:07:57] program that UAC appoints members of [2:08:00] counties to, [2:08:01] and I one of the county [2:08:04] representatives on that board. Ours is [2:08:06] five five counties in Northern Utah. [2:08:10] And so, just representing our county [2:08:12] there. [2:08:13] Um and I'll bring back some information [2:08:15] from that as to what we can do with [2:08:17] um what we [2:08:19] maybe recommendation on what we ought to [2:08:21] do with the funding that could be [2:08:22] available to us for outdoor recreation [2:08:26] programs or projects. [2:08:29] That's it. [2:08:30] >> Thank you. [2:08:31] >> I I have something after all. [2:08:33] >> Okay, thank you. Go ahead. [2:08:35] >> I I attended a a sort of a training with [2:08:37] CAPSA and the other [2:08:40] um [2:08:41] agencies with that and it was very [2:08:43] informative and [2:08:46] they need funds. [2:08:47] >> Was it USU? [2:08:49] >> No, it was here at the CAPSA. [2:08:51] >> Oh, okay. [2:08:52] >> I and the brag there were several [2:08:55] agencies there but we met over there at [2:08:58] the [2:08:59] What do they call that place anyway? [2:09:02] That gray building on 10th. [2:09:05] North where they the [2:09:08] um [2:09:10] the victims can go. [2:09:12] >> Mhm. [2:09:13] >> I don't know what it's called. [2:09:16] But he does but [2:09:17] >> It's it's on 10th North there's CAPSA's [2:09:19] headquarters. [2:09:20] >> Right. Right. That was it I think. Yeah. [2:09:23] >> That's great. [2:09:25] Yeah. [2:09:26] >> Just invite Bryson to give them election [2:09:27] update. [2:09:28] >> For the primary election public and [2:09:30] primary make sure my office gets them by [2:09:33] 8:00 p.m. [2:09:35] Please vote. We only have about [2:09:37] 3,000 people that already have already [2:09:39] voted. [2:09:41] So it's usually it's a lot less than we [2:09:42] thought. [2:09:44] >> Oh, that's it. [2:09:45] >> Do you have early voting some days? [2:09:47] >> have early voting next week here at the [2:09:48] Cash County Administration Building. We [2:09:50] changed our hours to see if more people [2:09:52] can if they want to vote early. [2:09:56] Regular hours wouldn't have worked for [2:09:58] those that work so it's going to be [2:09:59] 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. [2:10:00] >> Oh, say that again. [2:10:02] >> 12:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. [2:10:05] Yeah, Monday through Thursday of next [2:10:07] week since Tuesday. [2:10:09] All right, two weeks. [2:10:11] >> Two weeks. [2:10:12] >> There you go. [2:10:14] >> Oh, great. Yeah, Bryson's been really [2:10:16] busy. They're ready to go. So yeah, [2:10:18] let's let's get a lot of votes. Drive [2:10:21] the turnout. [2:10:24] » Okay. [2:10:26] I'll accept a motion to adjourn. [2:10:27] >> So moved. [2:10:29] >> Second. [2:10:30] >> Okay. All those in favor say aye. [2:10:31] >> Aye. [2:10:33] >> I didn't want to [2:10:34] leave Nolan hanging out there to dry, [2:10:37] you know. [2:10:37] >> This This I wanted to take that survey [2:10:39] in the map to identify what area you're [2:10:41] in is broken. [2:10:43] >> Yeah, that's that's what I ran into. [2:10:45] >> I did, too. [2:10:45] >> Twice. [2:10:46] >> Yeah, so I mean [2:10:47] >> That's what I