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Hey, we're going to go ahead and get

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started. Thank you all for being here

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for our county council meeting tonight.

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Welcome. We're We're happy that you're

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here joining us today. And um we're

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going to go ahead and start with opening

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remarks by council member Dave Erickson.

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>> I'd like to do my remarks in the form of

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a prayer.

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Our Father in heaven, we're indeed

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grateful at this time to be able to

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gather together in such a

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wonderful environment, wonderful place.

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And with open minds and open hearts, we

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pray that this will continue throughout

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this meeting

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as we discuss things, that thy spirit

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will be with us.

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And that clarity will come to our minds,

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and clarity will come to our hearts in

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the decisions that need to be made.

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We are grateful to be able to live here

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in this wonderful valley.

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We're blessed with so many things.

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We're grateful to be of support to

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others,

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have helped others.

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we will be able to understand everything

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that comes our way.

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We pray for those that are have been in

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harm's way to protect our freedoms.

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losses

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as we have uh understand their

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sacrifices for us.

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We're grateful for to be able to

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celebrate to celebrate such a wonderful

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time in the 250 years of existence of such a

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wonderful country that thou has been

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behind

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and supported and influenced.

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for

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those who protect us each and every day

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and those who give up service to each

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other.

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We pray that we will realize that

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all blessings come from thee.

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We recognize them.

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We cherish them and do this in the name

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of Jesus Christ. Amen.

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And if you'd stand, we'll

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follow me in the pledge of pledge of

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allegiance.

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Pledge allegiance

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>> to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» Thank you, Council member Dave.

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Um this actually will be the last

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meeting we have before we go through the

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4th of July celebrations. And so, I hope

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you're all ready to go to parades and

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have wonderful time celebrating the

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250th anniversary of our country. What a

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special time.

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Um I would accept a motion to approve

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our agenda.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second. It's been moved and seconded

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that we approve the agenda. Those in

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Okay, what about the minutes from our

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last workshop and our County Council

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regular meeting, both on June 9th?

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>> I noticed that Keegan was added in all

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the votes, but he wasn't here. So,

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>> Clerk's office. Okay.

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>> Other than that, I'll make a motion to

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approve them.

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>> Okay, it's been moved and seconded that

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we approve the minutes from our regular

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council meeting and our workshop meeting

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on June 9th excluding Keegan from any of

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the votes because he was absent that

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All right, report of the county

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executive Oh, he just walked out.

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>> I'll give his report. Don't have

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anything to report. Let's go.

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>> I've got him, Keith.

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>> Keith's got something, I know so.

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>> Yeah, you know what? I know one of the

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things that he was going to do, I'll

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just go ahead and take care of it. Um,

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is we wanted Oh, there you are. It was I

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was going to start for you, but you go

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ahead.

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>> for what you had.

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>> Oh, I have it all with me. So,

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tee it up, I'll bring it all together.

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really taken to heart honoring our

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country.

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produced some

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really beautiful artwork

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uh, and coloring.

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honor him with a declaration

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and to have him come before us and have

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our county

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present him with a plaque on behalf of

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so I'm going to read this first

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and then we'll ask Mr. Miller to come

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forward and we will we have this for

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you.

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It says, "Presented to Bill Miller in

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grateful recognition of your outstanding

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participation in Cache County's America

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250 celebration through the completion

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and submission of county-themed coloring

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pages featuring fun places and landmarks

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throughout Cache County.

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Your enthusiasm, creativity, and

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community spirit helped make our America

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250 festivities more meaningful and

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reminded us that patriotism, curiosity,

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and fun can be celebrated at every age.

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Thank you for helping us color your way

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across Cache County and for inspiring

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others to join in celebrating our

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nation's story and local heritage

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presented by Cache County America 250

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celebration. So Mr. Miller, if you'd

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come forward

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and EVERYONE YES, PLEASE.

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» I DIDN'T DO THAT GOOD IN SCHOOL.

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We'll all We'll all sit down.

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Hold your placard.

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>> No, this one's in mine. Is this one or

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» Thank you so much. We appreciate your

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participation in our community.

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>> That's awesome.

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» Did you Did you get an A in art?

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» That's awesome.

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>> I know that Bill did more than more than

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30 different colorings

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>> done in that book.

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I work with the Visitors Bureau and so I

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would go through them and I knew which

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ones you didn't have. So I would take

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them to him.

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>> That's awesome. We presented him with a

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book with a whole new set of all of the

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pages. You can color them again if you

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want. They're all That's for you to to

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>> We are appreciative of that. Thank you

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>> You would like a report?

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» Thank you, folks.

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» I met yesterday with the mayor of

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Millville and their city manager and um

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Matt Phillips and I walked portions of

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the road that as it enters and goes

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through Millville. We discussed what

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kind of work would be done on the road.

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maintenance on the road. If we looked at

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the road in some areas, the shoulders

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have been damaged either by use or maybe

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by the sewer system that was put in. I

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anticipate I'll have that estimate and I

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will bring you the estimate and we will

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have a discussion.

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pending that is the whole road, so we're going to have to kind of manage

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that in connection with it, but that's

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River Heights on the subdivision as

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an estimate from the appraiser. Kurt, I

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believe that was $5,000,

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$4,000 to do the appraisal. Um

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Danny.

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I think it would be important to get

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that appraisal done so we have that

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evaluation. So

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Danny and I will arm wrestle over whose

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budget it comes out of. But we'd like to

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go ahead with that. I don't know that we

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need a formal council resolution. All

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we're doing at this stage is simply

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having an appraisal done.

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give public notice and so on and so

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forth. But this stage is just to get an

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appraisal. Once that's done, we will

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share that with you and with the

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fire board. Um I'm I'm going to release

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a letter that kind of deals with some of

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the public back and forth about what's

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been happening in the fire board

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meetings. Um Dave, you know there's a

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little kerfuffle going on there.

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most important thing that's happened

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isn't that. It's that for the first time

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we've got the north mayors together in a

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meeting and discussed what what they

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want to do with their cities and the

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unincorporated area in [clears throat]

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the north.

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That meeting occurred last week. At the

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meeting, um

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They they made They elected as chairman of

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the meeting Jeff Yon.

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And they

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are making a recommendation

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that we appoint Mayor Brady Bodily of

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Lewiston to be a member of the fire

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board. That's a recommendation. We're

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going to collect those and then we're

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going to come back and talk more

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generally about service on that board.

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So,

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that is and we do have a fire board

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meeting pending this Friday.

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In the south, we've also had a meeting.

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In that meeting, uh Chad Lindley, the

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mayor of Wellsville, was selected as the

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chair and Mayor Ed Buys was nominated by

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the smaller cities to be their

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representative to the fire board.

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So, that's happened. They came up with a

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set of

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questions that they wanted answers to

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from the county

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and I'm collecting that material and

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hope to distribute it to them tomorrow

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or on Thursday.

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Um

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good meetings. The meetings have been

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productive and we're we're finally

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getting to the operational details of

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how this would actually work.

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So,

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>> [snorts]

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>> I believe that's a

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report of what my activities have been

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most recently.

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>> Okay.

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Does anybody have any questions for the

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executive?

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Okay. Thank you for that report. We

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appreciate it.

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Okay. Um next on our

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agenda is the Bear River Health

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Department advised interlocal agreement.

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I'll turn time over to Jordan Mathis.

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» Thank you. Jordan Mathis, director of

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the Bear River Health Department. Um

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given some of the changes that we've

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gone through in the integration of

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behavioral services in our three

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counties,

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uh

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it necessitated some minor changes uh to

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the interlocal agreement uh that you all

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approved last February.

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Um

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not last February cuz that'd be February

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20

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26.

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February 2025 is when it was approved

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uh by the three counties.

353
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I don't know if you want me to walk

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through the substance of changes or if

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you had a chance to look at them.

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Um

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they were all marked in green. I can

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explain some of them if you'd like and

359
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why those changes were were brought

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about. Whatever you'd like me to do, I'm

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prepared to do whatever you

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would like that would help you in

363
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making your decision.

364
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>> You know what, Jordan? I don't see

365
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anything green on my copy.

366
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>> Oh, was it

367
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>> So maybe maybe um

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>> Blue. I printed it to PDF.

369
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>> Yeah. Maybe you could just mention some

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of the bigger things. Like I'm I'm

371
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familiar with it, but let's

372
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>> Well, I'd be happy to do that.

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Real quickly, uh on page three in 2.1,

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um we just changed the formation to

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rather than reaffirm to firms

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and added February of 2025

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as the formation. That was when the the

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health department was made a united

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a multi united

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multi-county health department.

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Um the biggest changes that we had were

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under duties.

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Uh as we reviewed that,

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um

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we we hit on some of the behavioral

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health duties uh last time, uh

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but we didn't add uh the specific duties

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under code for public health. And so we

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put those back in there and then we also

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expanded some of the duties under

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behavioral health to make sure that we

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were um

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being very clear um for

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It's very clear to me in my brain, but

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for my predecessor to

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whoever replaces me uh would understand

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what that what those duties and

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responsibilities are. So we we expanded

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the duties section quite a bit just to

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be a little more explicit and broke it

401
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out between public health

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responsibilities and behavioral health

403
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responsibilities because there's two

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separate codes there.

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Questions there?

406
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>> Is

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Uh 2.

408
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3.3.1.1

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is blank. Is there a reason that's

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blank?

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» It's not blank on the one that I have.

412
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>> And then we've got some just

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misspellings. Carry out is carry is

414
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spelled wrong in both of those.

415
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>> Three of them.

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>> Yeah.

417
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2322

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>> Carry is spelled with one R.

419
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>> 231, 232, and 233.

420
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>> That's spelled wrong.

421
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>> Two.

422
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» Under duties, each time it it explains a

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duty it's carry.

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>> And the two one that I the 2.1 that I'm

425
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looking at doesn't mention anything

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about the February 2025.

427
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>> No, it doesn't.

428
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>> Yeah, I don't know the

429
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>> Yeah, quickly.

430
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>> Maybe we don't have the right I don't

431
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think we have the right copy.

432
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» All right.

433
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We we've been sharing it as a a Google

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Doc.

435
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>> Yeah.

436
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Just

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So, there are two different instances of

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the agreement in your media packet.

439
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Uh this one was just for reading

440
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reference while Mr. Mathis was

441
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presenting on the item. The actual

442
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correct version that Mr. Mathis is

443
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referring to should be marked

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as item eight.

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>> That's what I'm the res the resolution

446
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part.

447
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>> What page did you all

448
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>> 8C.

449
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>> Yeah. It's the actual resolution.

450
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Yeah.

451
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>> And that one should be the correct one.

452
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>> Resolution. Yeah, 2026-22.

453
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» I don't know. My iPad's not working.

454
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Okay, carry has been spelled correctly.

455
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>> That one is still left blank though.

456
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2.3.3

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» is blank.

458
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There's a 1.2.

459
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1.1 is blank.

460
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2.3.3,

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the very first one under that, 1.1 is

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blank. Is that

463
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>> No, we didn't get all of it.

464
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>> It's not supposed to be blank. And And I

465
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just printed

466
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>> 2.1 still doesn't mention the

467
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>> It still doesn't mention February 8th.

468
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>> It's the same.

469
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>> It's Well, the Carrie is spelled

470
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correctly now.

471
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Yeah.

472
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There's nothing green line.

473
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» Talk about Let's Why don't we just have

474
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the changes and then

475
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>> I can send you a link

476
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a not editable link to the Google Doc

477
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that shows you the the edits. That's

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what you like.

479
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>> Cuz Cuz don't we have to pass this?

480
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Don't we have to approve this tonight by

481
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a vote?

482
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,400
>> We can approve it whenever you guys feel

483
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you're ready to approve it.

484
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>> There you go.

485
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>> Um

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it We are Quick question, you passed.

487
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>> It's It's not It's not time sensitive.

488
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It's not like

489
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>> It's not super critical. We were

490
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shooting for July 1.

491
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Um

492
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Uh what this allows us to do is to

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execute a contract with Bear River

494
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Mental Health. That does need to get put

495
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in place by July 1.

496
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Um

497
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I don't know that it

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We

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What I'll say is and and maybe Mr.

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Murray can chime in. We were already

501
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given the authority to contract in the

502
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last one, so I'm not that concerned.

503
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>> Okay.

504
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>> Um

505
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>> If we waited

506
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>> to my ability to execute that, there are

507
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some minor changes with regards to the

508
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behavioral health director that are

509
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involved in this that we would just need

510
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to wrap up pretty quick after that.

511
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>> But that could be ratified that second

512
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week of July pretty easy.

513
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>> July 14th or something.

514
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>> I'm not going to be in front of

515
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um Rich County until July 1st.

516
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>> Okay.

517
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>> So,

518
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we have some time.

519
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>> Yeah, I I would rather see the the

520
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completed version of

521
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>> Okay. Have him go over those main points

522
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and everything and

523
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>> Yeah, go ahead and go over those main

524
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points and then when we get after the

525
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second reading

526
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>> ready to study it and

527
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>> Okay.

528
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>> on it on the 14th.

529
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>> Under Under organization, maybe this

530
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one's there. Under organization four, um

531
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we we made um some minor adjustments to

532
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the membership of the Board of Health.

533
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Um

534
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and what you have there is we split it

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into a voting members and ex officio

536
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members. The voting members stay the

537
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same and the voting members are still

538
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nine members that are appointed by the

539
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legislative bodies of each county

540
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according to the population.

541
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Uh it adds two ex officio members, one

542
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of those being the Cache County

543
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Executive, so whoever holds that office

544
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would be an ex officio member. And then

545
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we've been working with Utah State to

546
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have an ex officio member um

547
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of Utah State. They're in talking to the

548
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president's office, they would like to

549
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have somebody from their emergency

550
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manager be that ex officio member um

551
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because they both look at

552
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student side of things and and being the

553
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largest employer in Cache County also

554
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look at the employee side of things. So,

555
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they have kind of a a double vision

556
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there um and look at the impacts that

557
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they're having on the community. So,

558
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that's the position they're looking to

559
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potentially um

560
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have serve in that.

561
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Um

562
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>> Jordan, in your version, is that under

563
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4.2.2? Because we don't have anything in

564
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ours about ex officio members.

565
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>> It's 4.2.2.

566
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>> 4.2.2 is blank on our version.

567
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,440
» As Well, it's probably under 4.1, 4.5.4.

568
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,320
And that was blank.

569
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,360
>> Yeah, suffice it to say we probably need

570
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:34,750
the updated one.

571
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,120
» Let me get you

572
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,950
my [snorts]

573
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040
Uh that is not my first copy here.

574
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,960
>> Cuz I just printed this right before I

575
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,040
came over.

576
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,360
>> I will get Andrew my version of it. I

577
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,560
apparently

578
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,080
we have a different version from the

579
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,040
attorney's office.

580
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,200
>> Are you available on July 14th to come

581
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,400
to our meeting?

582
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,600
>> Yeah, do you just want me to sit down

583
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,280
and come back?

584
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,760
>> Yeah. Well, I'm I'm just thinking this

585
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,360
is it's going to frustrate all of us cuz

586
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,520
we're not looking at the same thing you

587
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,120
are. And

588
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:06,840
um

589
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,560
>> A fine group.

590
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,440
>> Cuz I was looking for that ex officio

591
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,160
portion of it and I never had seen it

592
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:21,750
and so I didn't know.

593
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,880
» It looks like I am available then.

594
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,960
>> Okay. How would that Would that be okay

595
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,040
if we if we put this aside for now and

596
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,360
wait until we have a

597
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:30,800
>> Yeah.

598
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,280
>> completed copy in front of us and then

599
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,280
we can ask questions and

600
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000
go over those changes.

601
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,320
>> It sounds like they're not It's not

602
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,440
going to be a big deal, but it should go

603
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,240
pretty quickly.

604
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:40,880
>> I think so.

605
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,640
>> I just think

606
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,560
>> Could Could we go ahead with 6B then

607
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,040
though?

608
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,520
>> Yeah.

609
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,720
>> I think we could still can.

610
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,680
>> Yeah, let's do that.

611
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,240
>> Yeah, let's move Let's go ahead and

612
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840
>> So, I go to 6B um

613
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,320
in statute it allows for and the

614
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560
language is transferred from there into

615
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,640
the interlocal agreement. It allows for

616
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,080
the appointment either directly or by

617
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,720
contract for a behavioral health

618
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,160
director.

619
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560
That would oversee um

620
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,440
that would oversee both mental health

621
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,920
and substance abuse

622
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,120
programs, the delivery of those programs

623
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,680
in the community.

624
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,880
Um given the integration work that we've

625
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440
done, last year I had you appoint an

626
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040
individual that directly worked for Bear

627
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,560
River Health Department. As we look to

628
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,040
integrate those and and put that under

629
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,080
one contract with

630
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,640
Bear River Mental Health, who will be

631
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,400
called Bear River Behavioral Health from

632
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,990
now on.

633
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,560
My proposal would be that the council

634
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,560
give consideration to appoint by

635
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040
contract uh

636
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,400
Trevor Cook, who is currently the

637
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
executive director of Bear River

638
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,320
Behavioral Health.

639
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,440
Um

640
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,640
just to note the interlocal agreement

641
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720
and the language there, reviewed by the

642
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,880
county attorney's office, was very clear

643
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,200
that

644
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,760
if that position changes

645
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,600
um

646
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,880
as a

647
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,240
not-for-profit agency, they can hire

648
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,760
whoever they want as their executive

649
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
director,

650
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,080
but that does not necessarily mean that

651
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600
they will become the behavioral health

652
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,680
director. That is still subject to

653
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,320
appointment by

654
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,760
counties.

655
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Uh that's in code and that has to that

656
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,160
has to exist.

657
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Um we've also transferred that same

658
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,840
thing over to the contract so that

659
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,880
they're aware that that's the case.

660
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,560
Um

661
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720
so that's how we would we would work

662
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,960
that, but my proposal

663
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,720
um to the council right now is that you

664
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,040
consider

665
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080
uh Trevor Cook to serve in that

666
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,750
function.

667
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,760
» I I have a question.

668
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,240
>> motion

669
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,960
>> something or

670
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,440
>> Yeah, we'll we'll do that but I that

671
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840
says the term there's no term. He just

672
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280
is there until the

673
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440
their nonprofit makes a change and then

674
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520
that we would consider a change.

675
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960
>> Yeah, so the

676
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,480
it would be subject to it would be

677
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,440
subject to the the current contract

678
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,360
which has eight more years on it.

679
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,000
>> Okay.

680
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000
>> That's what that's the contract that we

681
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440
would sign and then

682
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,440
we we would have to go through

683
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,400
a bid process at the end of that

684
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,080
to determine if there's any other

685
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,560
entities in our community that could

686
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040
provide the scope of services that we

687
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,600
need

688
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440
for comprehensive behavioral health

689
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,800
services.

690
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,680
They will

691
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,920
most likely put in an application and

692
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040
would go through this process again

693
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,440
at that point.

694
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,400
So, it would be for the term of the

695
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,720
contract. Thanks for the clarification.

696
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,040
>> Okay.

697
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Um someone like to make a motion on that

698
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,840
consideration?

699
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,000
>> I would move that to uh approve Trevor Cook as the Bear River

700
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,960
Health Department's Behavioral Health

701
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,920
Director.

702
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,120
>> Second.

703
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,720
>> Okay, it's been moved and seconded that

704
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,920
we approve Trevor Cook as the Bear River

705
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760
Health Department Behavioral Health

706
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,960
Director. Is there any further

707
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,840
discussion?

708
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760
>> Can I make one point of clarification?

709
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,200
It'd be to the end of the term of the

710
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,720
contract or until Trevor

711
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,320
is not serving in that role anymore. So,

712
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,640
if he were to quit, we would have to go

713
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,640
through this again.

714
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,400
>> Okay, we'll we'll add that to the we'll

715
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,920
consider adding that to your motion.

716
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,280
>> That's a friendly amendment, I bet.

717
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,960
>> Okay.

718
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,840
Um

719
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,840
just as to note in his resume it does

720
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800
say that he is a justice court um

721
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,920
>> judge in Rich County.

722
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,520
>> Yeah.

723
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,040
>> Where he does serve all three counties

724
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,920
just

725
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,720
It just that yeah.

726
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,840
I don't I don't think that's changes

727
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,920
but it's just to

728
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,960
>> Keep it above board.

729
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,360
>> Above board. Yeah.

730
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,680
>> You want to restate the motion with the

731
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,280
amendment?

732
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,920
I accept that as as a friendly

733
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,760
amendment. Does anyone want want to make

734
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,680
that you well anyone want to make that

735
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,040
as a friendly amendment or I can restate

736
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,600
it.

737
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,280
I well I would move that we accept

738
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,680
Trevor Cook as the Bear River Health

739
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,920
Department's Behavioral Health Director

740
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,600
for the term of the contract or

741
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,320
>> Until

742
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,280
>> The other statement.

743
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,080
>> Until he ends his employment.

744
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720
>> Or until he ends his employment.

745
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,240
>> Okay.

746
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,280
>> Is that a second motion?

747
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,308
>> Does that second still stand? Okay.

748
00:27:29,308 --> 00:27:29,880
>> [clears throat]

749
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,080
>> Those in favor say I.

750
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,960
>> I.

751
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,480
>> Any opposed?

752
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Okay.

753
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Thank you, Jordan. Sorry about the

754
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,230
mix-up.

755
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Okay, it's public hearings. Does someone

756
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,800
want to make a motion for this?

757
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,040
>> Yeah, move that we schedule a public

758
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,280
hearing for July 14th, 2026 at or about

759
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,720
5:30 for resolution 2026-21

760
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,000
resolution opening and amending the

761
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,400
Cache County 2026 budget fourth

762
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,120
amendment.

763
00:27:58,120 --> 00:27:59,120
>> I'll second that.

764
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,640
>> Okay, so moved and seconded that we

765
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760
schedule a public hearing for July 14th

766
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,200
to amend the Cache County budget. Those

767
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,440
in favor say I.

768
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,240
>> I.

769
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480
>> Any opposed?

770
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,480
Okay.

771
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,280
Um initial proposals for consideration

772
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,720
of action. Andrew,

773
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,000
um do you want to talk about this first

774
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,840
one, please?

775
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:31,070
>> Yes, ma'am. One minute.

776
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Good evening, Council. Uh before you is

777
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,120
ordinance 2026-27.

778
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,640
The ordinance in question deals with

779
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,040
electronic meeting procedures for the

780
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,400
County Council.

781
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,280
Uh

782
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,760
this is

783
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,760
for the most part largely an effort to

784
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,200
essentially consolidate the Council's

785
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040
rules, but there are some also some rule

786
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,360
changes involved as well.

787
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Um before I begin my presentation, I'm

788
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960
going to pass out a a flowchart that

789
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,600
will be referenced later in the

790
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,280
presentation, but it's really helpful to

791
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:29,350
look at.

792
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,510
Okay.

793
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880
So, ordinance 2026-27,

794
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,000
um got a little typo up there. Sorry

795
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,680
about that. It proposes an enactment to

796
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,040
county code that governs electronic

797
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,120
meeting procedures of the county

798
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,320
council.

799
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Why is this necessary? It places

800
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,120
electronic meeting procedures with other

801
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440
county council meeting procedure

802
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880
provisions in chapter 2.16 of county

803
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,960
code. In short, it puts all the meeting

804
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,120
rules together in one place. Uh in the

805
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,840
event of an emergency or if a question

806
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,200
about meeting procedure arises, all

807
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000
relevant county level rules are in one

808
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,910
place just for reference.

809
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,040
So,

810
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,400
uh here's a little bit of context.

811
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,000
In response to the in uh in the

812
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
excuse me, in response to the COVID-19

813
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
pandemic, the Utah legislature actually

814
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,720
through the bill itself was authored by

815
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Mr. Val Potter, who is here in

816
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,960
attendance with us.

817
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Uh

818
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,040
it passed HB 5002, which amended the

819
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Utah Open and Public Meetings Act. It

820
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,240
initiated some requirements and expanded

821
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,080
some allowances for local governments to

822
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200
have rules and procedures for electronic

823
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960
meetings.

824
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,800
The county council adopted resolutions

825
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,040
2026 and 27 and 2022-12

826
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,720
to establish electronic meeting

827
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,800
procedures, but these didn't add or

828
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,760
amend to existing rules in county code.

829
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,600
So, essentially you had

830
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800
different sets of rules that were

831
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,960
floating

832
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
out

833
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,080
not in reference to all the regular

834
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,480
rules. So, Cache County Code

835
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,000
Chapter 2.16 is the main repository for

836
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,600
count county council rules and

837
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,840
procedures.

838
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Right now, it does not contain any

839
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,920
provisions related to electronic meeting

840
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,750
procedures. So,

841
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960
the ordinance itself, it would establish

842
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,400
clear guidelines under the Open and

843
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Public Meetings Act for conducting

844
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,000
county council meetings remotely.

845
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,120
It establishes that the anchor location

846
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,400
for meetings, which is more or less

847
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,240
where the meeting physically happens,

848
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,040
of the county council is the Cache

849
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,560
County Historic Courthouse, which is the

850
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240
building that we're in now.

851
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,560
It requires a physical quorum

852
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,680
at the county historic courthouse to

853
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,000
approve a standard electronic

854
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
participation by majority vote. Uh let's

855
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,480
say that Mr. Garrity is

856
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,720
on a business trip. Let's say he's in

857
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Ohio,

858
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960
and he would like to attend the county

859
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,200
council meeting. He has a a work thing

860
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400
that he he can't miss, but still wants

861
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,160
to participate. He would send in a

862
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
request, and

863
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,440
that request would come before the

864
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
county council.

865
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920
You all would have to vote to approve uh

866
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920
Mr. Garrity's or anyone else's

867
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000
attendance. Then once that vote is

868
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760
approved, then

869
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,200
those other council members can

870
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,440
participate remotely.

871
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Uh it

872
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,360
this ordinance itself would grant uh

873
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400
remote council members full voting and

874
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,080
participation rights once the electronic meeting format is

875
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,350
officially approved.

876
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Uh in the event of an emergency, it

877
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,920
authorizes the county council chair to

878
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,160
completely waive the physical anchor

879
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160
location requirements during health or

880
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,840
safety emergencies via a written

881
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,280
determination. That is a rule that is

882
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240
currently not enacted by either of those

883
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
resolutions I referenced. Uh this would

884
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,440
be something that uh would definitely

885
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
I would say help in the event of

886
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,960
emergency.

887
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,040
And it also provides a backup mechanism

888
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,400
to use the

889
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,280
uh

890
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080
if the county executive declares a state

891
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560
of emergency and he designates a

892
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440
temporary seat of government.

893
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,760
This would also allow you to use that

894
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,400
temporary seat of government as an

895
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,240
anchor location. So a lot of this is

896
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160
technicalities, but

897
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,800
if you were going to be wanting to

898
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640
follow the rules during an emergency,

899
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,480
this would more or less give you that

900
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,480
authority.

901
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,880
And something that was not put in my

902
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800
presentation itself uh was the question

903
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,160
about

904
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,040
uh public participation. There is a

905
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080
provision in the ordinance itself that

906
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,800
does talk about

907
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440
public participation. Uh that says if

908
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200
it's uh requested by the council chair

909
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000
or any other council member

910
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,440
has to be approved by I believe it's

911
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,040
also majority vote um or if it's

912
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,840
required by state law, like for example

913
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,320
during truth and taxation. So it also

914
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,160
addresses that as well.

915
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Uh here's the flowchart. It's a little

916
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,480
blurry to see, but

917
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,200
do any of you have any questions?

918
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,360
>> I I have two. So one just for

919
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,920
clarification,

920
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,040
uh I'm gone um

921
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,560
I request a that there's a

922
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,040
public or an electronic meeting.

923
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400
That can be approved at the beginning of

924
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,560
the meeting or does it have to be

925
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,639
approved in a prior meeting?

926
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,560
>> It has to be approved uh at the

927
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,720
beginning of the meeting that you want

928
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:12,560
to join.

929
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,800
>> Okay. So if I'm gone on

930
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,639
the 22nd, it can be approved on the 22nd

931
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,760
and I can still participate if

932
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,520
voted yes.

933
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,200
>> Yes.

934
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,679
>> Uh

935
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:22,639
>> If we vote yes.

936
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,159
>> If we Yeah. Yeah.

937
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,120
Um [laughter]

938
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,200
depends on the issues at hand, I guess.

939
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Um

940
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,760
and then the other question is it does

941
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,159
say um

942
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,360
that notice of the meeting is

943
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,480
a required 24 hours. Is that happening

944
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
by default because we're saying yes,

945
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,280
there's a meeting it's live streaming on

946
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760
YouTube or is this a separate

947
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,639
requirement where you have to notice

948
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:47,679
that it's specifically an electronic

949
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,480
meeting 24 hours in advance?

950
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,280
>> It would have to be a separate notice.

951
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,840
The The second answer. There would have

952
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,840
to be a separate answer for an

953
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,960
electronic meeting.

954
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,919
>> So

955
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,240
someone who's going to be gone should

956
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,680
know 24 So then

957
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,200
you could notice that there's a that

958
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,000
there's an electronic meeting and even

959
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,680
if they voted no, you're still covered

960
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,280
because you noticed that Okay.

961
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
So basically what I'm gathering is at

962
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,440
least 24 hours notice is kind of the

963
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,120
absolute minimum requirement.

964
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,680
>> Yes.

965
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,880
>> And I guess another part of that

966
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400
question is by designating it as an

967
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,720
electronic

968
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,560
meeting, does that mean that if there's

969
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,640
a public hearing that participants can

970
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,880
participate electronically automatically

971
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,240
or are those two things separate?

972
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,520
>> I'm going to say I believe as it's

973
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,920
written under the ordinance itself, the

974
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,040
two would be separate.

975
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
>> Okay. And that would that also have to

976
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
be voted on as well separately then?

977
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,720
>> I believe so.

978
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,480
>> So like one vote to say Keegan can

979
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,920
participate remotely and then another

980
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,960
vote to say the public can participate

981
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,880
remotely. Okay.

982
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,800
>> Yes.

983
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,360
>> I think that answers my question. Thank

984
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,480
you.

985
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,640
>> want to also add that I believe the 24

986
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,120
hour notice part, if I recall correctly,

987
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,480
is a requirement that's actually from

988
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,800
the Open and Public Meetings Act. That's

989
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,200
not me just making something up out of

990
00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,960
thin

991
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,400
>> This is you trying to gather those

992
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,000
things.

993
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,360
>> Yes.

994
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,880
>> So when it's truth and taxation and

995
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,800
we're required to allow public comment,

996
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,960
we don't have to vote on

997
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,960
>> have to vote for that.

998
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,080
>> That Okay. That's just automatic.

999
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,840
>> Yes.

1000
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,640
>> Okay.

1001
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,480
Um

1002
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440
So if someone is attending remotely,

1003
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,640
we'll just throw Keegan again.

1004
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880
He can't be included in the vote for a

1005
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,000
quorum though.

1006
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,440
>> Not for the initial.

1007
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520
>> So there has to be a physical quorum at

1008
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,320
the physical location. Yeah.

1009
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,080
>> And then that unlocks the gate

1010
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,960
essentially that

1011
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,120
>> for you to participate and vote.

1012
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,480
>> Okay.

1013
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,520
>> Does anybody have any other questions

1014
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,320
for Andrew?

1015
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,040
>> Can we require that someone mutes their

1016
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,840
microphone if they're attending remotely

1017
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,880
and there's distracting things going on?

1018
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,360
>> I was going to say I'm sure I could, you

1019
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,000
know, force that from my end of things,

1020
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,870
but sure.

1021
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,360
» Anybody else?

1022
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080
>> I just wonder what the security is

1023
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600
for the the council with the person

1024
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,960
that's doing the remote electronic.

1025
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
>> That kind of seems like that leaves the

1026
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
door open for

1027
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,800
we don't know.

1028
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,840
>> That is a good question, and I know that

1029
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,440
at the beginning of the pandemic that

1030
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,760
was a really big concern of for, you know,

1031
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,800
using Zoom or Google Meet if it was very

1032
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,720
secure or not for organizations to use.

1033
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,640
Uh I believe

1034
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
though I can't testify to it, we do use

1035
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,080
a lot of Google, occasionally use Zoom.

1036
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,360
Uh

1037
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,960
In terms of security, I think we we're

1038
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,720
pretty covered with that though.

1039
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,280
>> Yeah, but what if Keegan Keegan has a

1040
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,400
gun to his head?

1041
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,520
>> Oh, I see.

1042
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,720
>> Okay, fair point. Could be voting under

1043
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,440
duress.

1044
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,440
>> Right.

1045
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,760
>> Well, you have the same situation of if

1046
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,480
you open up to public and somebody

1047
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,680
stands and says who they are, do we know

1048
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,600
who they are cuz we don't have a vision

1049
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,080
of them.

1050
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,760
>> There's so much we can do.

1051
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,240
>> Well, I

1052
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,960
>> We can be on a required video

1053
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,790
confirmation as well.

1054
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600
» I I've

1055
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,240
I'm okay with

1056
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,880
>> Can we Do you want me to establish a

1057
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,080
safe word?

1058
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,470
>> Duress. [laughter]

1059
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,710
» The eagle has landed.

1060
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:10,360
» Sorry.

1061
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,040
>> I'm I'm comfortable with how it is. I

1062
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,360
think we're

1063
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
getting in the weeds.

1064
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,720
I I think we're okay.

1065
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,000
>> And sorry if I misunderstood your

1066
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,040
question.

1067
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,040
>> I think it'll be nice to be I I have

1068
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,640
at times when I've had to miss a meeting

1069
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,160
and I've really

1070
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
had a desire to participate. And when

1071
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,760
you're on a speaker phone that's sitting

1072
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,320
on the dais, it's really hard to

1073
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,800
I want him to say something.

1074
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,080
>> Yep.

1075
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,920
>> So, this I think this will be good.

1076
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,240
Okay, does someone want to make a motion

1077
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,080
about this?

1078
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,840
>> comment.

1079
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,600
>> You sure can.

1080
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
>> I just think that's kind of ironic that

1081
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,000
we would allow this when we don't allow

1082
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,960
the transparency of a public open

1083
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,560
comment period.

1084
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
>> Um I think it's totally two different

1085
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,960
two two different things.

1086
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,600
>> both transparent

1087
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,040
>> Yes.

1088
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,840
>> issues.

1089
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,240
>> Yes.

1090
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:00,200
>> in my opinion.

1091
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,120
>> I agree.

1092
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,920
>> Well, but we still have to approve it in

1093
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,840
this if we're opening it to public. So,

1094
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,360
I think we watch that in a very

1095
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960
protective manner. So.

1096
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,160
>> Okay.

1097
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,920
Does anyone want to make a motion about

1098
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,560
this?

1099
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,680
>> I'll make a motion that Let's see, it's

1100
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,040
a resolution or an ordinance?

1101
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,200
>> ordinance.

1102
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,840
>> It's an initial proposal, too.

1103
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,800
>> Okay, so I do need to suspend the rules

1104
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,840
then.

1105
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,240
And uh

1106
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,640
make a motion that we approve Let's see,

1107
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,880
what number is it? Um ordinance 2026-27

1108
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,680
establishing and amending the electronic

1109
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600
meetings procedures of the Cache County

1110
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,840
Council.

1111
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,760
>> Second.

1112
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,120
>> It's been moved and seconded that we

1113
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,000
approve ordinance 2026-27.

1114
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,680
Is there any further comments?

1115
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,960
>> Yep. I just want to state that it did go

1116
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,000
through OMP

1117
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,240
>> It did.

1118
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,040
>> and was vetted in here,

1119
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,680
>> too, so.

1120
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,800
>> Thank you for your work there.

1121
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,880
>> Yeah, thank you.

1122
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,160
>> Okay, those in favor say I.

1123
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:54,960
>> I.

1124
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,160
>> Any opposed?

1125
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,360
>> Uh nay.

1126
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,240
>> Okay.

1127
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:00,640
All right.

1128
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:12,550
8B ordinance 2026-32,

1129
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,960
» Good evening. Uh Brian Abbott with

1130
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Development Services.

1131
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,720
Uh Uh tonight we have a ordinance

1132
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,830
2026-32

1133
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080
uh establishing a temporary moratorium

1134
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,040
on the development of utility scale data

1135
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,840
centers.

1136
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Um

1137
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,480
need for a pause. Our current county

1138
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,040
code

1139
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160
or uh zoning, development, and

1140
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,000
construction standards do not contain

1141
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,080
clear definitions

1142
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,240
um or regulations

1143
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,760
uh to manage industrial scale digital

1144
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,680
installations um

1145
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,880
adjacent to any of our agricultural or residential areas.

1146
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,200
So, what is this ordinance? Um it's a

1147
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200
180-day protective pause.

1148
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,240
Um and this will give uh planning and

1149
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,080
zoning time to prepare permanent code

1150
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,828
text amendments

1151
00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:03,600
>> [clears throat]

1152
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,720
>> during that moratorium.

1153
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,200
Uh during this moratorium, uh Cache

1154
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,080
County will not accept, review, or

1155
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,080
process any applications for data

1156
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,990
centers in any zone.

1157
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,320
Um also, we will evaluate if we will

1158
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
allow data centers, what codes do we

1159
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,280
need to add or code that prohibits them

1160
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,680
all together.

1161
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,000
And during this time, we'll workshop and

1162
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,400
keep everyone in the loop, including

1163
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,000
planning commission and and county

1164
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,880
council throughout the whole process.

1165
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,200
Um

1166
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,960
that's kind of all we've got for this uh

1167
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,360
moratorium to present to you. Do you

1168
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,960
have any questions concerning this?

1169
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,320
>> I just want to state publicly and I I

1170
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,880
said this for the newspaper, too. We

1171
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,520
have not received any interest that

1172
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,280
we're aware of of somebody wanting to

1173
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,760
put a data center. So, this is not in

1174
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,960
reaction to any kind of inquiry. This is

1175
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,480
just us trying to get ahead of something

1176
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
that may or may not even come, but we we

1177
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,880
want to be ready if it does.

1178
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,280
>> And And this is only for the

1179
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,560
unincorporated

1180
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,200
>> Yes.

1181
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,400
>> properties. It is It's

1182
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,280
>> include municipal

1183
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,880
>> it does not spill over into all of

1184
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,240
municipalities. That's their business.

1185
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,080
>> Yeah, I will add that I did meet with

1186
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,120
the chair of the Logan City Council and

1187
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
they're doing something very similar.

1188
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,320
>> Yeah.

1189
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,800
>> They realize that their code isn't

1190
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,240
caught up with

1191
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,280
some of the potential demands that could

1192
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,760
be coming. So,

1193
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520
I think it's just a

1194
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,400
precautionary

1195
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,870
>> Yeah, proactive. I like it.

1196
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Okay, does someone want to Does anyone

1197
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,760
have any more questions for Brian?

1198
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,720
>> Please do.

1199
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,080
>> Let me add that to that that we have an

1200
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160
exam of the board that's going to govern

1201
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
any such application.

1202
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,920
>> It would be our planning and zoning It's

1203
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,280
our planning and zoning commission.

1204
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,000
>> would be the ones to examine that.

1205
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,400
>> Yeah, it would come through It would

1206
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,000
come first to our development services,

1207
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,640
then through them, and then to us for

1208
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
final. And it would have to be probably

1209
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,640
a zone change, which would always come

1210
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,960
to us

1211
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560
um in the end. So, it's That's the

1212
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,030
process that would happen.

1213
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,840
So.

1214
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,560
>> Okay, I will suspend the rules and for

1215
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
ordinance 2026-32

1216
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,360
establishing a temporary moratorium on

1217
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
the development of data centers.

1218
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,720
>> Second.

1219
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:22,840
It's been moved and seconded that we

1220
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,840
suspend the rules and pass ordinance

1221
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,640
2026-32.

1222
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Is there any further discussion?

1223
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,825
>> Is that 180 days or years?

1224
00:43:32,825 --> 00:43:33,000
>> [laughter]

1225
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,200
>> 180 days.

1226
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,720
>> Days, okay.

1227
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:36,720
>> Okay.

1228
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,040
Those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?

1229
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,880
Okay.

1230
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,560
>> Thank you.

1231
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,720
>> All right, approving the Oh, we're we're

1232
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:46,480
not going to do the

1233
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,480
number C.

1234
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Okay, D, Dane Murray. This is

1235
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:02,110
the airport.

1236
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,840
» I'm not sure how I drew the short straw

1237
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,560
to present on the airport, but this has

1238
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
been a lot of work that

1239
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,840
Keegan and Dave and Mark and all of OMP

1240
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,080
have put in in the executive um

1241
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,840
So, just to give some background to

1242
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,080
everyone, back in December there was

1243
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,400
um discussion with Logan City about

1244
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Logan City withdrawing from their

1245
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,840
participation in the airport.

1246
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Um they [clears throat] they did pass a

1247
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,600
um resolution through their City Council

1248
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,400
that withdrew, but as we looked into

1249
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,200
all of the FAA regulations and our grant

1250
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,920
requirements as the airport authority

1251
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000
um we realized it's not so simple just

1252
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,960
to have one of the parties of the

1253
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,000
airport authority withdraw. And a reason

1254
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,920
for that is the airport authority is an

1255
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,080
interlocal entity separate from the

1256
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,240
county or the city. Um so, it's its own

1257
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,280
um

1258
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920
legal entity, and they are the ones who

1259
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,360
have applied for all of these FAA grants

1260
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,760
that have a lot of really strict

1261
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,760
regulations on how that money's used,

1262
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,200
who controls the money. And and so, we

1263
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,760
went to work with Logan City and with

1264
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,120
our um

1265
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,640
ordinance and policy to come up with a

1266
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,360
way that

1267
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120
keeps the airport authority intact, but

1268
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,760
has the same outcome that we were

1269
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,680
seeking when Logan City was going to

1270
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,920
withdraw.

1271
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,480
And one thing that's important to know

1272
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,720
is when you're talking about airports,

1273
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:30,400
um

1274
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,720
even if the county is running the

1275
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,800
airport because it's located in Logan

1276
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,120
City, Logan City under FAA regulations

1277
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200
gets a lot of say in in what's happening

1278
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,840
with the airport. And so, they were

1279
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,120
going to have to continue being

1280
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,280
involved. Um so, what we've proposed is

1281
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,040
an amendment to the 19 93 interlocal

1282
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,720
agreement between Logan City and Cache

1283
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:55,040
County that created the airport

1284
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,280
authority.

1285
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,760
And what it does is it retains Logan

1286
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,080
City's involvement within because it's

1287
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,720
within their boundaries, but it removes

1288
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,840
their financial liabilities, which was

1289
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,080
what we were going for when they were

1290
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,080
withdrawing from the airport. And then

1291
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
it restructures the governance of the

1292
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,560
airport

1293
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,520
um

1294
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,480
really to to try to get in line with the

1295
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,680
there was an an auditor report done a

1296
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,240
couple years ago about the airport's

1297
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:22,520
governance

1298
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,360
um trying to move the airport from

1299
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,880
something that's a financial liability

1300
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,320
for the county and the city to something

1301
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,800
that's self-sustaining and is an

1302
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,040
economic um

1303
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,680
positive for the community, which I I

1304
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,480
think it is even with what the the

1305
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,480
county has to put in. But the the hope

1306
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,120
is under this this new form of

1307
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,600
governance that

1308
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,080
there's going to be an enterprise fund

1309
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,760
that's that they're going to be required

1310
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,040
to start, and that's going to

1311
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,120
um eventually become something that's

1312
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,920
self-sufficient without any taxpayer

1313
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,680
money going into it.

1314
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Um the county will take the financial

1315
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,200
lead

1316
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,600
in the meantime. So, if there are

1317
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,000
appropriations, they will come through

1318
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,680
the county council through our normal

1319
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,320
budgeting process.

1320
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Um if you can move to the next slide.

1321
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,760
So, so what the the new interlocal

1322
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,280
agreement, the amended interlocal

1323
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,400
agreement does is it creates an airport

1324
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,280
authority sponsor board. When we're

1325
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:20,440
talking using the term sponsor, that's a term of art that's used by the FAA um

1326
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,400
for whoever is ultimately responsible

1327
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,480
for the airport and is um

1328
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:33,560
on on the hook to make sure all of the laws are being followed. And that is the two

1329
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,360
entities that created the interlocal

1330
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,840
entity. So, that's going to be composed

1331
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,440
of seven members, three members of the

1332
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,560
Cache County Council, one of which would

1333
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,360
live in Logan City.

1334
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,480
Um the Logan City mayor or their

1335
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,000
designee, a Logan City Council member,

1336
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,400
and then two county elected officials.

1337
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,560
So, whether that's the county executive,

1338
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,280
the county auditor, the county clerk,

1339
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,920
two countywide elected officials would

1340
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,320
serve on that.

1341
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,960
They would approve the the airport's

1342
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,560
budget, the airport authority's budget.

1343
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Um

1344
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,800
So, the overall budget of the airport,

1345
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,160
not what they're asking for for the

1346
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,720
county, but what their overall budget is

1347
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:10,880
for the year.

1348
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,240
Enact bylaws, appoint remove people from

1349
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:15,160
the operational board, and they can

1350
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,400
overall override any action taken by the airport authority board, which would

1351
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,160
be in charge of operations that would

1352
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,240
violate any law or any FAA regulation.

1353
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,480
That's the oversight they have to make

1354
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,000
sure we're not violating any grant

1355
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,440
conditions.

1356
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,680
The other side of that is the airport

1357
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,720
authority board, which is in charge of

1358
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,280
operations. Um the going to be people

1359
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,400
who have some technical

1360
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,680
aviation business expertise to actually

1361
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,320
run the airport like a business and move

1362
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,560
it to where it'd be profitable.

1363
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,760
There'll be six members from the general

1364
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,200
public.

1365
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,400
Um and then one countywide elected

1366
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,880
official.

1367
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,680
They're responsible for the daily

1368
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,400
operations, technical oversight,

1369
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560
maintenance, contract leases, and hiring

1370
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
of any personnel they need.

1371
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,360
They'll be stacked appointed in

1372
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,520
staggered four-year terms with a maximum

1373
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,640
of three consecutive terms to to limit

1374
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,760
the amount of time someone can spend on

1375
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,240
that board without being replaced. And

1376
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,760
all of that it might not be exactly what

1377
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,040
was proposed in the the report, but it's what we came to

1378
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,400
be as close as we could to adopt those

1379
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,200
recommendations.

1380
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,240
I'm ready for the next slide.

1381
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,720
>> Um I have a question about that, Dean.

1382
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:27,320
>> Yeah.

1383
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,960
>> The the management board, who is the

1384
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,600
appointing authority? Is it the the

1385
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,520
>> sponsor board?

1386
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,880
>> board would be the appointing authority

1387
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,040
to the management board.

1388
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,840
>> Okay.

1389
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,720
Thank you.

1390
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,480
>> What can I just say something real

1391
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,920
quick? I think when we were talking

1392
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,400
about this, we were if we if we are

1393
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,040
comparing it to a business model, we

1394
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,320
were using um

1395
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,120
you know, the analogy that the sponsor

1396
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,720
board would be like shareholders and the

1397
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:54,480
authority board would be more like a

1398
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,520
board of directors.

1399
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,840
If that helps.

1400
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,440
>> Yeah.

1401
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,950
>> Thank you.

1402
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,000
» Um so just to go into a little bit

1403
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,080
because we were here on the precipice of

1404
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,080
this agreement ending and we've kind of

1405
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,800
walked that back. So it's valid for the

1406
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,560
new interlocal agreement will be valid

1407
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,640
for a minimum of 10 years and then not

1408
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,680
to exceed 50. So

1409
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,680
if everything's going really well in 50

1410
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,640
years, that's when we're going to have

1411
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,240
to come back and and take a look at this

1412
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:24,240
again.

1413
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:26,320
Um I think as we've gone through OMP,

1414
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,880
there's a realization that we'll

1415
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,840
probably need to come back and look at

1416
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,320
the interlocal agreement once things

1417
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,120
start running to see if there's things

1418
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,840
that need to be adjusted.

1419
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,280
Um

1420
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,320
and then just to talk about dissolution

1421
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,400
a little bit um cuz I I think that

1422
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,120
that's something it'd be good to put on

1423
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,280
the the public record of

1424
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,160
dissolution of the the airport. So

1425
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,360
in one scenario, that's where we were we

1426
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,400
were almost with Logan City, that

1427
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,400
it would dissolve and

1428
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Cache County would continue running it.

1429
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,240
Um Logan City would be out.

1430
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,680
That's that's one scenario. Um

1431
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,160
in the in the agreement, it's must be

1432
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
run for at least 20 years and the the

1433
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,240
reason for that is when we accept FAA um

1434
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,120
loans or grants,

1435
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,960
the requirement is that

1436
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,440
and some of them it actually is in

1437
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,000
perpetuity. It has to be used as a

1438
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,840
if you're using this as an airport or

1439
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,160
you're taking this money, it has to be

1440
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,200
used as an airport. You can't

1441
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,880
take this money for the runway and then

1442
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
turn it into a road or something.

1443
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,280
Um otherwise, it's 20 years from the

1444
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,280
last time you accepted money from the

1445
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,240
FAA that it has to continue running as

1446
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,920
an airport. Um one of there's a

1447
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,880
case out there where

1448
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,760
um

1449
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,480
City of Cincinnati had two airports,

1450
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,800
their international airport and then a

1451
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,440
smaller airport and they wanted to stop

1452
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,960
running the smaller airport, and it took

1453
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,680
them 20 years of not accepting FAA

1454
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,240
funds, but having to pay to run the

1455
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,800
airport to get out from under without

1456
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,880
having to pay back the the funds for

1457
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,960
that. Um and so that's something I think

1458
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,240
everyone and hopefully in the future

1459
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,200
takes into account that we have to keep

1460
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,600
running this as an airport as long as

1461
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,160
we're we're taking FAA funds.

1462
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Um and that would even be with the

1463
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,120
intent to close the airport where the

1464
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,200
city and the county both say we you know

1465
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,560
what, we don't want to to run an airport

1466
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,080
anymore. And in that case, um the assets

1467
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,040
would be split 50/50.

1468
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Um

1469
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,720
I can't imagine a situation based on the volume of flights at our airport

1470
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,120
that that would ever be the the case,

1471
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,400
but I just wanted to

1472
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,800
put that out there.

1473
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Um

1474
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,080
The one thing I I did want to mention, I got Andrew and George a copy earlier

1475
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,760
today, and I just heard from Logan City

1476
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,040
the format that that Logan City had

1477
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,760
proposed for this is what's in your

1478
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,880
packets. Um

1479
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,600
as we talked about that in OMP, I I'd

1480
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,320
propose something different that was a

1481
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,960
more of a standalone document where you

1482
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,040
didn't have to refer back to the 1993

1483
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,160
agreement. Um

1484
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,320
I

1485
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,480
incorporated all of our changes, so you

1486
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,240
did not have to

1487
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:03,280
look back at 1993 where it's a

1488
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080
standalone document. Um I I heard from

1489
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,320
Logan City that they're okay with that

1490
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,080
um from their attorney. Logan City will

1491
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,920
still need to go through their process

1492
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,640
with this, but really what our this

1493
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,800
resolution is is um

1494
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,840
you're you're agreeing with the content

1495
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,200
of the the interlocal agreement, and

1496
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,520
you're giving the county executive the authority to go sign that agreement.

1497
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:32,200
Um there there could be some small edits that are not

1498
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,840
that are that don't go into any of the

1499
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,520
substance as we're trying to get the

1500
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,840
formatting and things right, but that I I

1501
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,200
there's no problem with giving him the

1502
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,640
authority to enter into that. Him and um

1503
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,880
Logan City's mayor can can work that out

1504
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,600
with the attorneys, but this is really

1505
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,680
the content of this and the structure is

1506
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,440
what we're we're giving him authority to

1507
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,800
approve.

1508
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,840
>> But but the version you have will be

1509
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,040
different than this.

1510
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,040
>> It it's it's different in the If you

1511
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960
look at this version, it says this amend

1512
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,320
it's it's actually a little bit

1513
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,440
confusing cuz you have to refer back to

1514
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,520
the 1993 agreement to see what this is

1515
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,840
actually amending.

1516
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,720
Um what what will eventually be passed

1517
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,400
and has been passed on to the executive now

1518
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,600
is

1519
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,440
um it's it's all a standalone document.

1520
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,280
You don't have to look back at the the

1521
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,320
previous interlocal agreement.

1522
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,240
Everything from the previous interlocal

1523
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,240
agreement um

1524
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,360
will will be um

1525
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,120
replaced with this with the exception of

1526
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,640
the legal description of the airport.

1527
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Um

1528
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,880
That that is the only part of that

1529
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,680
agreement that is incorporated.

1530
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,120
>> Is there a time sensitivity on this one?

1531
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,680
>> So, Logan City's council is not meeting

1532
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,320
again until

1533
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,000
the middle of July.

1534
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,680
Um

1535
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,040
And really what they

1536
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,400
the city government has a little bit

1537
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,040
different

1538
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,000
um their their mayor has the ability to enter into these agreements without

1539
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,800
the council. Um they don't have a

1540
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,480
they don't This isn't implicating their

1541
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,720
budget at all. So, so Mayor Anderson can

1542
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,240
enter into this and we can work through

1543
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:12,120
that.

1544
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Their council is going to need to pass a

1545
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,680
resolution rescinding their

1546
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,230
withdrawal from the airport.

1547
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:21,720
As we talked through it from a legal

1548
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,720
standpoint, I I think that's more

1549
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,400
symbolic because the FAA isn't going to

1550
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680
recognize their withdrawal because we

1551
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,320
didn't go through the withdrawal process

1552
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,840
with the FAA.

1553
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,480
And so

1554
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,720
the the time sensitivity is more

1555
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,720
um um

1556
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,680
just to say we we have this in place,

1557
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,320
but the airport can continue

1558
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000
functioning. I I do think we need to as

1559
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,960
far as the airport board

1560
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,640
um

1561
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,120
we need to hold off on meetings meetings

1562
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,200
of the airport board until we can

1563
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,040
reconstitute these two boards and

1564
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,120
um

1565
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,840
get get that going, which is is a burden

1566
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,080
on the airport cuz we have we've had

1567
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,640
some time without an airport board

1568
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,200
meeting trying to work this out.

1569
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,760
But we are

1570
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,200
the effective date will be retroactive

1571
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,840
to July 1st um

1572
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,800
is when they're their uh

1573
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,560
withdrawal is effective um but

1574
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,760
Logan City's attorney and I have have

1575
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,840
said we'll keep that as a retroactive

1576
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,680
date to say this is when it started and

1577
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,360
we can start working on getting board members in place and

1578
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,280
having meetings.

1579
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,520
>> So so this interlocal agreement will in

1580
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,440
effect complete their withdrawal

1581
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,080
agreement. Like it'll take the place of

1582
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,680
the one they signed that was not valid.

1583
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,560
>> Yes, so

1584
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,160
>> This will do the same thing.

1585
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,360
>> So so they'll need to pass a resolution

1586
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,040
just saying actually we're not

1587
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,760
withdrawing um

1588
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,480
but this will replace this will be the

1589
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,120
agreement between the cities cuz cuz

1590
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,600
right now the the official agreement

1591
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,200
between the cities is still that 1993

1592
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,800
agreement. Um this is an amendment the

1593
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,880
first amendment to that agreement. But

1594
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Logan City does need to go through the

1595
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,480
process of making it clear that they are

1596
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:09,030
not withdrawing.

1597
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,920
» Um I have I had one question too. On

1598
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,280
page one it says the parties intend that

1599
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,960
the airport authority continue the

1600
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,320
ownership and management of the airport

1601
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,560
as a distinct legal entity separate from

1602
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,600
the city from the county and city.

1603
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,360
So which It just says airport authority.

1604
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,640
Is that the the

1605
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,240
>> So the air So there's the airport

1606
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,320
authority, which is the legal entity.

1607
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,400
Then there's the airport authority board

1608
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,680
and the airport sponsor board are are

1609
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,640
part of the governance of the airport

1610
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,680
authority.

1611
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,120
So,

1612
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,480
I guess to to put it analogy

1613
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,640
>> boards is

1614
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,360
>> they're part of the airport authority.

1615
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,360
is an is it's

1616
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,160
almost to say the it's the county the

1617
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,320
county council and planning and zoning.

1618
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,120
They're two different

1619
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,280
um boards within or governing structures

1620
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,640
within this one legal entity.

1621
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,160
>> So, the airport authority will own and

1622
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,200
manage the airport separate from the

1623
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,280
county and the city.

1624
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,400
>> Yes, and that that is the status quo.

1625
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,920
That is what currently exists.

1626
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,320
>> And I think maybe to add to that like in

1627
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,480
the section about budgeting

1628
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,360
um on section six, I guess it's what

1629
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,320
would that be thir- 13? It's number 13

1630
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,560
but called section 10.

1631
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,960
Number six, it says the airport

1632
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,360
authority board shall establish and

1633
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,800
maintain an enterprise fund for airport

1634
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,040
operations and services that are

1635
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,520
financed primarily through user fees and

1636
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,960
other airport generated revenues.

1637
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,640
So, I think the objective is that they

1638
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,640
are a self-sustaining entity. Of course,

1639
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,480
there'll be a lot to untangle, you know,

1640
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,400
they'll

1641
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,000
have to take county property or

1642
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,440
vehicles or whatnot and will have to

1643
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,160
sell that to them, you know.

1644
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
So, it's under their ownership.

1645
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Um

1646
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,080
but yeah, I think that's the that's the

1647
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,750
vision

1648
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,630
long-term.

1649
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,640
» Okay, what other questions does anyone

1650
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,550
have for Dane?

1651
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,480
» Yes.

1652
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,160
>> It just seemed I read in there this that

1653
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,120
they had meet once a year

1654
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,040
the

1655
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,280
support board.

1656
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,480
>> The the sponsor board

1657
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,600
>> Sorry, I couldn't think of the word.

1658
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,360
>> So,

1659
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,280
>> kind of

1660
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,600
I like a little closer would be better,

1661
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,000
but

1662
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,520
>> I think it was a minimum of once per

1663
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:30,880
year.

1664
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,920
>> It is, yeah.

1665
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,400
>> So, it's just setting the making sure

1666
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,960
they they meet at least once per year,

1667
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,920
but I

1668
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,040
and that

1669
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,160
that's going to be I mean, there'll be

1670
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,280
members of the council potentially um

1671
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,400
potentially

1672
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,760
three people will uh

1673
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,240
will be three people potentially you or

1674
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,400
Keegan or Sandy that's on there. So, you

1675
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,600
can you whoever's on there can advocate for we should meet more

1676
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,320
often than that.

1677
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,320
>> I think the minimum was again to use the

1678
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,520
analogy of a shareholder meeting. It'd

1679
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,280
be like you have to provide a prospectus

1680
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,040
once a year. Yeah.

1681
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,560
>> I just like to compliment everybody that

1682
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,280
worked on it cuz I really liked it. I

1683
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,960
thought it was well put together and

1684
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,200
every

1685
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:11,720
>> Good job.

1686
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,800
>> thing was included in it. Any like the

1687
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,960
dissolution and all of that. I I really

1688
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,920
like to compliment all of you guys that

1689
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,080
worked on it.

1690
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:22,400
>> It's

1691
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,811
>> It only took what? 13 O&P meetings?

1692
01:00:24,811 --> 01:00:26,120
>> [laughter]

1693
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,720
>> Every every week.

1694
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,200
>> More O&P meetings for this than

1695
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,480
everything else we passed this year

1696
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,880
combined, so.

1697
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,520
But but thank you. I know a lot of

1698
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,440
people worked really hard to put this

1699
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
together and try to make our airport

1700
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,000
some

1701
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,520
>> And the progress was it was incremental

1702
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,160
and it was methodical as we developed

1703
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,120
through it. It I thought it was

1704
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,000
it's been kind of exciting to

1705
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,520
you know, to to be part of that and and

1706
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
bringing all that together. It's uh

1707
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,440
I can see some uh

1708
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,640
quite dynamic things happening now out

1709
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,440
there when the thumb gets pulled off and

1710
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,880
they're able to

1711
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,440
run it uh independently as a well,

1712
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,880
semi-independently and and like a a good

1713
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,120
business model would probably be created

1714
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:13,960
there.

1715
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,520
So.

1716
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,560
>> This will be the only county operated

1717
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,480
airport in Utah.

1718
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720
All the The airports are

1719
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,440
sponsored and run by cities.

1720
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,520
>> Yeah.

1721
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,920
So, that's that's a

1722
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,720
that's

1723
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,720
kind of an interesting aspect that we've

1724
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,280
chosen to do it by county

1725
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,280
in

1726
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,720
this valley.

1727
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,440
>> I mean new territory.

1728
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,000
>> Good.

1729
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,480
>> Okay. Um

1730
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,880
does anyone feel like they want to um

1731
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,280
suspend the rules and pass this? Do you

1732
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,200
want to wait a couple It's a resolution.

1733
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,320
We don't have to suspend the rules. Do

1734
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,480
you want to pass it or do you want to

1735
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,040
wait?

1736
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,560
>> I I just want to say one more thing,

1737
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,280
too. This um um this isn't a hill I'm

1738
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,480
going to die on, but I just want to

1739
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,040
mention that Dr. Jones did specifically

1740
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,840
recommend in the report not to have

1741
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,680
elected officials on the Airport

1742
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,320
Authority Board, and

1743
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,040
we do have one. It's one of seven, but

1744
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,080
um as um Mr. Murray mentioned,

1745
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,560
there was some deviation from the

1746
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,440
recommendation, and that was probably

1747
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,510
the most glaring example of that.

1748
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,840
» So, what was his reasoning for not

1749
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,520
>> Uh cuz well, I mean, just to be blunt,

1750
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,480
cuz politicians often don't know about

1751
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,440
engineering challenges or aviation or

1752
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,360
aeronautical issues, and sometimes

1753
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,800
they're influent they're influenced by

1754
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,960
other factors that may not be in the

1755
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,800
best interest of

1756
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,920
um

1757
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,600
>> You mean like self-interest?

1758
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,880
>> That's could be one of them. Um

1759
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,000
but yeah, we're uh

1760
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,200
we're a potentially a Airport Authority

1761
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Board that doesn't have

1762
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,600
a an elected person could just focus on

1763
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,120
the economic impact.

1764
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,400
>> Well, I think having an elected person

1765
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,600
actually makes it better

1766
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,120
because you've got

1767
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,080
a representative of the people

1768
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,160
with skin in the game, kind of.

1769
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,320
>> Well, and keep in mind, we do have a

1770
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,080
sponsor board that appoints those

1771
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,200
people. We'll have three of us on on

1772
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,520
that oversees

1773
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,920
that, but yeah.

1774
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,000
>> Let me just respond to that by saying

1775
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,280
it it doesn't say which elected

1776
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,600
officials.

1777
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,440
And I think the critical thing is the

1778
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,560
sponsor board looks at the situation is

1779
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,160
to make sure that the person that we

1780
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,120
choose from amongst our elected

1781
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,520
officials

1782
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,200
is someone who has some skill apart from

1783
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,280
the ability to

1784
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,400
become a politician and get elected.

1785
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,480
We have a number of elected officials

1786
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,040
who have real skills that would be

1787
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,560
welcome on a

1788
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,480
board not because they're an elected

1789
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,440
official, but because they have other

1790
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,600
skills.

1791
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,640
For example,

1792
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,640
Matt Funk

1793
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,520
has a set of skills that any airport

1794
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,800
authority board would welcome having him

1795
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,600
on the board.

1796
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,240
But I do think it's wrong to appoint

1797
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,440
someone because they're an elected

1798
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,840
official. That's that's the distinction

1799
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,840
I'd make here.

1800
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,440
>> I agree.

1801
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,560
>> Uh

1802
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:28,400
And and I I acknowledge that that we have

1803
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,920
five or six elected officials. Surely we

1804
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,360
can find one of them that has skills

1805
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,720
that are appropriate for the airport

1806
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,280
authority board.

1807
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,920
And quite frankly, we can amend this if

1808
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,240
we decide later on that we don't like

1809
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,680
that.

1810
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,200
Um

1811
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,040
I think this is a

1812
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,240
transition period

1813
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,000
where we've never had this operate this

1814
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,640
way. We do need to keep our thumb on it

1815
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,880
a little bit. I know we want to take our

1816
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,160
thumb off, but I think

1817
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,440
we need to make sure this is going to

1818
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,240
work and work how we intend it to work

1819
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,720
before we completely unleash controls on

1820
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,800
it.

1821
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,110
So.

1822
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,000
» But there's only one thumb.

1823
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,920
>> And there has been two and that's that's

1824
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,680
kind of created some inefficiencies.

1825
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,960
>> Only one thumb.

1826
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,720
>> Well, they would have Cash County, I

1827
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,680
mean

1828
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,480
it's it it's I think we're narrowing things down.

1829
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,000
>> We would like to sit down with the

1830
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,440
County Council and talk about the

1831
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,400
Airport Authority Board because

1832
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,080
um I I think the way it's set up,

1833
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,520
correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, is is the

1834
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,760
I'm going to nominate one of the elected

1835
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,200
officials. So, I'm the one that makes

1836
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,640
that decision which elected official

1837
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
goes there and which ones go on the

1838
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,840
sponsor board and I expect to get advice

1839
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,320
and consent from you with respect to

1840
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,280
that appointment.

1841
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,160
That comes from the county, not advice

1842
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,680
and consent from the sponsor board, but advice and

1843
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600
consent from the county.

1844
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,360
>> And that is the language in the

1845
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:15,800
agreement to have it say advice and

1846
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,960
consent.

1847
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,720
And I'll go on the record saying I agree

1848
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,440
with the executive that it is possible

1849
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,280
for a politician to have real-world

1850
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,560
skills.

1851
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,440
>> You're

1852
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,750
really

1853
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,480
» Okay. All right, so does someone want to

1854
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:31,920
make a motion about this or do you want

1855
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,000
to keep studying it?

1856
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,200
>> I would move to approve resolution

1857
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,680
2026-23

1858
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,280
approving the amendment number one to

1859
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,760
the

1860
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,680
Logan Cache Airport Authority low

1861
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,000
interlocal agreement.

1862
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,000
>> Second.

1863
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,320
>> It's been moved and seconded that we

1864
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,640
approve resolution 2026-23.

1865
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,520
Is there any further discussion?

1866
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,840
Those in favor say I.

1867
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:54,720
>> I.

1868
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,400
>> Any opposed?

1869
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Okay.

1870
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,960
All right, um so our

1871
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,160
Class B road is still pending.

1872
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,040
Um okay.

1873
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,510
Other business.

1874
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,120
Schedule council meeting to canvass the

1875
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,760
June 2023rd primary election results.

1876
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,560
What is the time frame on that, Andrew?

1877
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,760
>> Yes, so the county clerk spoke to me and

1878
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,400
I believe he [clears throat] would like

1879
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,720
one

1880
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,560
I believe a special meeting the first

1881
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,800
week in July to

1882
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,880
essentially canvass the primary election

1883
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,510
results

1884
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,880
» Next week?

1885
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,280
Yeah, that would be Yep, that would be

1886
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,840
next week.

1887
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,680
Um

1888
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,720
>> I mean the the first full week. Perhaps

1889
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,120
the 6th or the 7th.

1890
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:50,510
>> Oh, okay.

1891
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,280
» Why couldn't you just do it at the next

1892
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,040
regular council meeting?

1893
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,320
>> I think that's too long.

1894
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,000
>> I believe the county clerk needs to

1895
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,160
>> so many days, right?

1896
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,280
>> I believe so.

1897
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,760
>> So many days after the election you have

1898
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,520
to

1899
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,400
>> Like is it What is it? 14 days after the

1900
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,200
election? I don't know.

1901
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,480
>> Well, I wish our county clerk were here

1902
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,000
to answer that.

1903
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,240
>> Yeah, I don't remember the number, but

1904
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:09,760
>> busy.

1905
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,790
>> Yes, he is.

1906
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,760
Yeah.

1907
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,320
there is a

1908
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,440
>> You guys want to do Okay, tell Look at

1909
01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:19,400
your calendars. We could do like June

1910
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,359
30th. We could do it next week on

1911
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,160
Tuesday night, or we could wait till the

1912
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,920
following week and do If we stick with

1913
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,319
Tuesday, it would be July 7th.

1914
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:28,640
Um

1915
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,200
>> It doesn't have to be an evening. It can

1916
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,279
be anytime.

1917
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:33,480
>> Yes, in the middle of the day.

1918
01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:35,120
>> And we just need a quorum and it'll take

1919
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,040
>> Get a quorum.

1920
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:36,400
>> Yeah.

1921
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:37,680
it's usually Yeah.

1922
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,160
>> Yeah, let's do June 30th.

1923
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,720
>> Pretty cute.

1924
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,240
>> Um

1925
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,839
>> So so it needs to be no less than 7 days

1926
01:08:44,839 --> 01:08:47,640
from when the election ends and no later

1927
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,759
than 14 days.

1928
01:08:48,759 --> 01:08:51,160
>> Okay, so no less. So June 30th would be

1929
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:58,390
no less than

1930
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,000
» But June 30th is uh

1931
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,680
>> after the day of the election,

1932
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:03,799
>> A

1933
01:09:03,799 --> 01:09:05,279
>> June 30th would work.

1934
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,920
>> A June 30th would work then.

1935
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,480
Do we count?

1936
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:10,600
>> And what time would if we met like at

1937
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,080
1:00?

1938
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,440
>> So so seven calendar days after the day

1939
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:15,480
of the election.

1940
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,759
>> Yeah. Oh, calendar days.

1941
01:09:16,759 --> 01:09:17,279
>> Calendar days.

1942
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:18,480
>> So Wednesday would be the same

1943
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:19,240
>> So Wednesday.

1944
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,040
>> Wednesday, July 1st.

1945
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,359
>> At noon?

1946
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:25,400
>> Oh.

1947
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Uh

1948
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,720
no, I can't come at noon.

1949
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,720
But you can Mike form a quorum without

1950
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,160
me. Quorum without me.

1951
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,240
>> I probably can't either.

1952
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,120
>> I don't think you have to.

1953
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,600
>> Could form I could

1954
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,080
>> True.

1955
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:39,480
How many

1956
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:40,560
>> Can I participate electronically?

1957
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,560
>> Just a couple. Two or three is required.

1958
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,480
You have to have a quorum.

1959
01:09:43,480 --> 01:09:45,279
>> Four we'd have to have four of us here.

1960
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:46,759
>> Oops.

1961
01:09:46,759 --> 01:09:48,920
>> How about at 3:00 on Wednesday, July

1962
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,480
1st?

1963
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,080
Would that work better for you?

1964
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,600
>> Busy until

1965
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,480
4:00.

1966
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,720
on Wednesday, July 1st. Would that

1967
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,880
work for everybody for a 15-minute

1968
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,640
meeting?

1969
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,080
>> Yeah, I can.

1970
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,870
>> Probably.

1971
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,200
» So we'll say 3:00 or 4:00.

1972
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,720
>> Let's do 4:00.

1973
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,560
>> Okay.

1974
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,840
>> Um

1975
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,990
The canvass meeting.

1976
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,520
To to accept that. That's what it's

1977
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,640
called, right?

1978
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,160
>> Yeah.

1979
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,080
>> You just send out a reminder.

1980
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,750
>> Yes.

1981
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,680
Okay.

1982
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,960
For those and if you can't be there,

1983
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,400
make sure and let Andrew know right away

1984
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,800
so we'll make sure we have a quorum.

1985
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,240
All right. Um the USAT conference

1986
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,960
tomorrow, I think um Joanne and Dave and

1987
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,520
I are going to go down and Andrew

1988
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,280
to to the um meeting about the

1989
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,480
data centers.

1990
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,480
>> However, we did learn today that they

1991
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,280
will send a link in the morning for

1992
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,320
those of us that

1993
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,560
>> They wanted to make sure they had enough

1994
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,520
people in person so they didn't announce

1995
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,680
that there was going going a link, but

1996
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,280
there will be a link that they send out

1997
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,200
first thing in the morning.

1998
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,240
>> Do they have an agenda so we could jump

1999
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,000
in at certain points or is it

2000
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,280
>> I would think so and it it'll probably

2001
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,920
be attached to the link.

2002
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:05,840
>> to the link.

2003
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,560
>> I'd be interested in that.

2004
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,720
>> And then on the very next day is the UAC

2005
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Justice Summit. Again, Andrew and I and

2006
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,520
Sheriff Jensen and Dane are going to go

2007
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,880
down to that so that we can

2008
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,000
>> Thank you for going.

2009
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,400
>> I got registered.

2010
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,760
>> Okay. So, we're going to do that and

2011
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,160
learn about the criminal justice

2012
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,440
coordinator or criminal justice

2013
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:24,440
coordinating council.

2014
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:25,720
>> Thank you for representing us.

2015
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,880
>> Okay. The Hyrum and Lewiston independent

2016
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,560
day parades. I'm really excited. We have

2017
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,120
a horse-drawn

2018
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,320
wagon

2019
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,080
for Hyrum and for Lewiston.

2020
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,240
And we have some wonderful decorations.

2021
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,040
And we're going to invite all county

2022
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,200
employees to join us and I need to write

2023
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,720
something up and get it to Janine so she

2024
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,520
can put that out there that anybody who

2025
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,920
works for the county can join us in

2026
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:50,800
either one of those parades.

2027
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,640
>> for Lewiston's is 9:00.

2028
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,000
>> Lewiston's parade is going to start at

2029
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,440
9:00.

2030
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:55,200
>> Yes.

2031
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,280
>> Oh, wow.

2032
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,440
I'm rocking the boat.

2033
01:11:58,440 --> 01:11:59,800
>> It's It's been like that for a few

2034
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:00,520
years.

2035
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,000
>> Oh, okay. Hyrum starts at 10:00.

2036
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,200
>> So, will the same thing be able to go to

2037
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:05,920
both?

2038
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,080
>> Um probably not.

2039
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,880
I don't think so. I don't No, no. It'll

2040
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,760
be We'll have two separate entries for

2041
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,840
that for that day.

2042
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,000
And so um I know I'm going to go to

2043
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,720
Hyrum with Katherine.

2044
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,280
Dave will be in Lewiston. I don't know

2045
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,040
how many else people are available. It'd

2046
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,480
be nice to have at least two council

2047
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:25,240
members at each one of these parades.

2048
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,920
>> I could go to Hyrum.

2049
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,160
I plan on probably going to Hyrum.

2050
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,200
>> Okay. We'll see if [clears throat] Mark

2051
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,400
can Mark went to Lewiston last year.

2052
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,360
>> So, at Hyrum, are we s-

2053
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,080
we sitting on the

2054
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,840
float and throwing candy because Hyrum

2055
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Yeah, we have to walk.

2056
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:40,920
>> you have to walk if you want to throw

2057
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,720
candy. If you want to sit and wave,

2058
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,440
you're welcome to do that as well.

2059
01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:44,960
>> Okay.

2060
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,400
>> They'll be

2061
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,000
>> Yeah, you have to walk to hand out

2062
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,720
candy.

2063
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,440
>> Yeah. You have to walk if you want to

2064
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:50,840
throw candy.

2065
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,080
Um I will purchase candy. I will take

2066
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,000
care of getting candy.

2067
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,080
>> You have to walk if you want to throw

2068
01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,400
candy.

2069
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,600
>> Yeah, you can't throw candy from a

2070
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,440
moving vehicle. You have to be walking

2071
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:03,200
on the sides of the

2072
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,080
>> Yeah, no drive-by candy.

2073
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,520
>> They don't want people getting hurt.

2074
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,400
>> Kids are not smart, George.

2075
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,080
>> I will not agree to that.

2076
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,120
>> You know what? Kids Kids come out to get

2077
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,320
too close to the vehicles.

2078
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,560
>> Kids wrestle candy out of your hands,

2079
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:16,640
George.

2080
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,200
>> I know. I I've had

2081
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,080
>> Well, and maybe in Hyrum.

2082
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,520
>> Kids that come out they get too close to

2083
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:21,640
the

2084
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,360
>> Are they better

2085
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,240
>> Lewiston, but not Lewiston. They're

2086
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,360
respectful in Lewiston.

2087
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,400
>> That North Star is shining brightly

2088
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,880
above you right now, isn't it?

2089
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,280
>> I always throw the candy behind them.

2090
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,600
They like cuz they they get too close to

2091
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,800
the vehicles. I'm like, "Go over there

2092
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,060
and get your candy."

2093
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:37,040
>> [laughter]

2094
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:37,640
>> They love me.

2095
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,400
>> Yeah.

2096
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:38,640
>> Hey.

2097
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,360
I'm a mom, too. I do the same

2098
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:40,960
thing.

2099
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,040
>> Okay, Hyde Park Hometown parade is on

2100
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,520
July 18th, North Logan.

2101
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,840
Um, we've got two July 24th parades.

2102
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,040
>> They're at the same time?

2103
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,200
>> Yep, they're doing it at the exact same

2104
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,160
time. So again, we'll need to split. And

2105
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,000
I have two banners that we've made for

2106
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,960
these two different parades that we can

2107
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,720
use. We'll use them over and over again

2108
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,320
for years to come.

2109
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Um,

2110
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,440
so that'll be fun. So, everybody has to

2111
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,200
decide where they're going to go on

2112
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,600
Pioneer Day or if you're even available.

2113
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Let Andrew know. And are we registered

2114
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,720
for those all parades?

2115
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,040
>> Uh, at least for July 4th. I I was

2116
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,320
waiting to hear back from Mark, I

2117
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,720
believe, on July 18th for the Hyde Park

2118
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,240
Hometown Days parade.

2119
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,320
>> Is there anybody who knows they can or I

2120
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,440
know that I cannot be there on the 18th.

2121
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:26,880
>> I cannot be there on the 18th.

2122
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,160
>> I have a family reunion that day.

2123
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,360
So,

2124
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,920
that Let Andrew know. It Look at it

2125
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,000
You're going to Look at your calendars

2126
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,000
for all three of those parades and let

2127
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,760
Andrew know. And if we have at least two

2128
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,400
people that want to go in the parade,

2129
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,400
we'll

2130
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,440
have a truck or something.

2131
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,840
Okay, council member reports. Dave, do

2132
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,480
you have anything to report?

2133
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:48,760
>> Uh

2134
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,040
the going too fast.

2135
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,840
There's a lot going on but uh

2136
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,440
>> Did you get your hay in?

2137
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:55,120
>> First crop.

2138
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:55,520
>> Okay.

2139
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,120
>> Start getting the second next week.

2140
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,720
Uh it's going down fast.

2141
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,120
The creek flows are are

2142
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Logan River, you know, it's it's under

2143
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,880
200 second feet right now. Flow it's dropping.

2144
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,040
>> That's the end of August.

2145
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,480
>> Yeah, we're over a month ahead ahead of

2146
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:16,360
schedule in the summer.

2147
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,720
Uh

2148
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,080
and it's it's it's tough. It's going to

2149
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,800
be a it's going to be a lean year. Uh

2150
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,400
I think there is

2151
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,360
we do have some rains kind of La Niña or

2152
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,840
El Niño supposed to be kicking in

2153
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,920
bringing maybe some rains but

2154
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,040
often this time of year sometimes

2155
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,240
like was experienced in Cornish, there

2156
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,320
was a

2157
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,320
hailstorm out there that literally just

2158
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,520
wiped out wheat fields.

2159
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,640
I was just I was two or three kernels on

2160
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,600
a

2161
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,000
stem and no leaves, nothing. It was it

2162
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,600
was bad so

2163
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,880
I don't know. We hope for the best but

2164
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,120
uh

2165
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,520
it's going to be a little bit a lot

2166
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,320
tougher this year. We all know it.

2167
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,120
So

2168
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,080
other than that I've it's it'll it'll

2169
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,920
work out whatever

2170
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:09,070
happens if we will accept it.

2171
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,160
» Okay, Catherine.

2172
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,520
>> I have nothing.

2173
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,600
>> Do you want to give us an update on the

2174
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,160
fire board?

2175
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,240
>> It's

2176
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,160
still going.

2177
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:17,847
>> Exactly.

2178
01:16:17,847 --> 01:16:18,280
>> [laughter]

2179
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,240
>> Okay, Nolan.

2180
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,080
>> Um not much. On Thursday, there's

2181
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,080
Kirk Bab and myself and some guys from

2182
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,440
planning and zoning going to meeting to

2183
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:28,880
see if we can work on the things which

2184
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,080
we've been assigned as far as the

2185
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,200
subdivision and that.

2186
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,120
So we're moving on that. I am very

2187
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,760
anxious to see that moving ahead because

2188
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,400
when you talk about water,

2189
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,160
I think we're going to be looking at

2190
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,080
water and wells this summer.

2191
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,360
>> Agreed.

2192
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:43,240
Keegan.

2193
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,240
>> Um I wasn't here for last meeting, but I

2194
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,320
saw the the two Cossack initial

2195
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,240
approvals, so um you know, there was an

2196
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,280
effort made a few months ago to go on

2197
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,560
the radio for someone I think Eric went

2198
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,200
on the radio and they sent out the

2199
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,080
mailer. I think the the efforts to

2200
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,880
promote the program

2201
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,080
were

2202
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,160
very minimal in cost, but I think that

2203
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,120
raised some awareness, so

2204
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,480
um might consider doing that again in

2205
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:10,200
the coming months.

2206
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,200
Um airport board, we just covered that,

2207
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,040
so I think that's a a good milestone. Um

2208
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,000
if you'd indulge me for a second, I just

2209
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,320
I want to talk about rec center

2210
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,000
and kind of where we're at with that and

2211
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,560
a proposal that I have.

2212
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:22,960
>> Okay.

2213
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:23,960
>> Is that all right? It'll just take a

2214
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:24,680
couple minutes.

2215
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,640
>> Absolutely.

2216
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,560
>> Um so there was a presentation last

2217
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,640
time. I I wasn't That was again, I

2218
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,000
wasn't in attendance, but I watched the

2219
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,720
video and

2220
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,040
um just to do a quick recap, there were

2221
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,560
three proposals um put forth, which was

2222
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,080
potentially one rec center um in a

2223
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,640
central location, two, a north and

2224
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,440
south, or three, a north, a Logan, and a

2225
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,840
south. And I don't want to speak for the

2226
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,400
council, but it seems like nobody was

2227
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,320
interested in doing three.

2228
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,080
That

2229
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Okay. So, I think maybe one or two were

2230
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,280
entertaining, but we have VCBO that I

2231
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:04,400
think

2232
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,400
is somewhat confused on

2233
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,640
um the guidance that's coming from this

2234
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,160
I I guess we're calling it a

2235
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,200
advisory board?

2236
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,120
>> Steering committee.

2237
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,000
Um from what I understand, the steering

2238
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,920
committee um was never officially

2239
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,840
appointed by either the executive or the

2240
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,120
council. I think they were a

2241
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,680
self-forming. This is not a criticism of

2242
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,640
them because I think they took it upon

2243
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,920
themselves to study issues and but I

2244
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,000
think it it'd be

2245
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,840
it causes some confusion for the for

2246
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,280
VCBO because we approved the

2247
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,320
uh RAP tax money to fund that, but

2248
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,240
they're looking for direction from a

2249
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,680
board that isn't actually appointed by

2250
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,480
us. And I don't know that it the

2251
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,240
representation is geographically

2252
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,960
equitable, either. I think sometimes one

2253
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,920
city might bring more people to it, and

2254
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,200
so it it gives the appearance that maybe

2255
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,600
there's more support because for for one

2256
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,560
idea because there's more members from

2257
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,160
that city there.

2258
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,640
So, um I guess just to cut to the chase,

2259
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,440
my proposal would be that we look at

2260
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:09,280
that board and and officially appoint

2261
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,120
members. Um maybe it's a seven-member

2262
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,320
board that has more equal geographic

2263
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,000
representation, and it it could also

2264
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,800
have many of the members that are on it

2265
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,240
now. But I think that would help VCBO

2266
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,200
understand that, okay, this is a

2267
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,600
county-sanctioned

2268
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,520
um board, and they're advising. Um and I

2269
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,480
would also recommend that there be

2270
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:35,280
probably two of us on that board.

2271
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,240
Um

2272
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:38,760
I'll say one more thing about this, and

2273
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,080
that is

2274
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,120
I think there's interest in getting this

2275
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,400
on the ballot to let the public decide

2276
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,080
um if they want to fund it, because it

2277
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,080
would need to be bonded. But I think if

2278
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,680
we want to do that, put our best foot

2279
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,920
forward in that, I think we need to have

2280
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760
a clear vision of how it's how much it's

2281
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,200
going to cost. Nolan brought up a good

2282
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,360
point that I saw on the video, which was

2283
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,560
people need to be able to take into

2284
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,080
consideration what's happening with the

2285
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,440
school board, what's happening with the

2286
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:05,920
fire board, so they're going in eyes

2287
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,480
wide open of how how much costs are

2288
01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:10,640
going to affect them. And I think Mark

2289
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,200
made an excellent point of if we don't

2290
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,560
give people a clear vision of what's

2291
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,680
going to happen, then if it's voted

2292
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,640
down, that could be used for the next 20

2293
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,520
years as people just don't like rec

2294
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,400
centers, but that's probably not an

2295
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,960
accurate representation of the public's

2296
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,320
wishes.

2297
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,560
So, my proposal would be that maybe next

2298
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,000
meeting uh Andrew works with me to put

2299
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,560
together the language of what that board

2300
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,720
would look like and maybe in a following

2301
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,160
meeting we start talking about what

2302
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,280
members would be on it. And then we give

2303
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,480
them, let's say, 6 months to make a

2304
01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:43,920
recommendation on a location and maybe

2305
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,080
how it should be managed. Those could be

2306
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,640
some of the topics that that are

2307
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:48,960
discussed.

2308
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,000
But we can get into that later, but

2309
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,160
that's what I would like to see happen.

2310
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,440
So, and then potentially we look at

2311
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:58,040
getting this on the 2028

2312
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,920
ballot during the presidential election.

2313
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,560
>> Um just so you know, Keegan, I I've been

2314
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:05,840
to every steering committee meeting

2315
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,080
except one, I think.

2316
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,440
And um I think we're way beyond

2317
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:12,840
appointing a board and I think they the

2318
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,760
people that have been

2319
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,000
working with BCBO, BCBO has a present

2320
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,360
has a proposal ready for for two

2321
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,720
locations. They're they've already got

2322
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,480
They've already scouted out the exact

2323
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:26,960
locations and what they would cost.

2324
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,000
They're ready to give a cost proposal

2325
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,080
and bring something to that that

2326
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,760
committee's ready to bring something to

2327
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,440
us as a council to say, "Would you vote

2328
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:37,600
to put this on the ballot?" And I and I

2329
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,480
think they're I think they're ready to

2330
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:41,280
do that. I don't think there's an

2331
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,800
appetite amongst the people there to go

2332
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,000
back to the beginning and and appoint a

2333
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,400
new board

2334
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,200
um and wait until 2028. I think by 2028

2335
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,760
they'll they will have all done

2336
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,480
something different, which might be the

2337
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:54,720
answer.

2338
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,760
But um

2339
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,080
just just so you know that like I I've been to those meetings. I spoke to

2340
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,240
Whitney after the last meeting. They're

2341
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,560
ready to bring us a proposal with actual

2342
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,880
costs that can go to the voters.

2343
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,120
And um

2344
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,640
I think the committee is ready

2345
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,600
pretty There's never been a consensus on

2346
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,560
that committee ever on that steering

2347
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,680
committee, but there's been generally

2348
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,640
at the last meeting the last one of the

2349
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,200
last comments that was made was, "Well,

2350
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,040
the council just needs to take charge of

2351
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,960
this and make it happen." Like the

2352
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,400
council approved the study the money for

2353
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,960
a study for this group that wanted to

2354
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,560
study it and I don't know that

2355
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,720
we ever as a council said, "Yes, we

2356
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,320
would like to have

2357
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,040
county-wide recreation." Like, that was

2358
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,000
not a vote we took. We vote to say,

2359
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,720
"Yes, go ahead and study it. If you

2360
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,160
bring us a proposal and if the people

2361
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,440
want it, then we'll support it." But But

2362
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:50,800
I think they're ready for something to

2363
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,280
go on the ballot in '26. I really do.

2364
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,720
>> So, I watched the video and from what I

2365
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,640
understand

2366
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,200
>> the When Whitney proposed to us

2367
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,800
>> Yeah, from 3 weeks ago and what I

2368
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,000
thought you had said was

2369
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,880
we need time to inform the public on

2370
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,480
maybe what this looks like, you know,

2371
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:09,560
maybe renderings of the

2372
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,480
of

2373
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:10,840
>> That was

2374
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,280
>> potentially what the facility could look

2375
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,520
like and quite frankly, I don't think

2376
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,920
November is enough time to do that. So,

2377
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,200
>> That

2378
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,920
>> I wouldn't support putting something on

2379
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,800
the ballot that quickly because I don't

2380
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,720
think it gives the public enough time to

2381
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,200
make an informed decision.

2382
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:25,680
>> It'll be good.

2383
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,840
>> And to And to take into the

2384
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,360
consideration the things Nolan

2385
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:29,400
mentioned.

2386
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,480
>> There's a

2387
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:32,840
fundamental issue that that really

2388
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,440
doesn't get addressed, Sandy, and that is

2389
01:23:36,440 --> 01:23:39,160
what what the fundamental

2390
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,880
discussion as I understand it is

2391
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,360
the county would bond to build these

2392
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,040
things.

2393
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,480
But then they're operated by the cities.

2394
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:53,240
>> The county would have to have an

2395
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,120
interlocal or an MOU kind of a contract

2396
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,480
with whoever runs them.

2397
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:59,680
>> and and just how will you enforce that

2398
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:00,920
contract?

2399
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,240
>> Yeah.

2400
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,720
>> I mean, I just fundamentally

2401
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,720
somebody's got to convince me that one

2402
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,080
person owning it and another person

2403
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,400
running it makes sense. I can tell you

2404
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,600
one thing and that is if

2405
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,360
our county government is not capable of

2406
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,640
taking on the 50 to 100 employees that

2407
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,400
would be needed to run three centers. We can't [snorts] do it.

2408
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,040
We we don't have the structure or the

2409
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,360
capability to do that.

2410
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,240
So, you're dependent on building

2411
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,640
expensive facilities

2412
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,760
and having

2413
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,200
And and nobody talks about how much

2414
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,160
money it talks takes to run these. And

2415
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,800
when they do their projections, they

2416
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,360
talk about these dollars and those

2417
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,400
dollars. Well, if those dollars and

2418
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,680
these dollars don't come in, who's on

2419
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,800
the hook for three

2420
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,000
centers? I just have to tell you,

2421
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,520
somebody needs to get realistic about

2422
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,120
what a recreation center finances look

2423
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,240
like.

2424
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,640
And Patty, I I just don't see it yet.

2425
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:08,400
>> I

2426
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,280
George, I am totally in agreement with

2427
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,080
what you're saying. I'm just saying this

2428
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,280
group that has been meeting, they were

2429
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,120
they put themselves together, made their

2430
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,080
own steering committee, and they've been

2431
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,120
meeting for a year and a half. They they

2432
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:21,920
took the money that we approved for the

2433
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,880
study, and they've been listening to

2434
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,480
VCBO. VCBO has drawings, they have

2435
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,840
contract contractor costs. They could

2436
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,160
give us everything needed to put on a

2437
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,320
ballot.

2438
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,160
If that's what we decided that we wanted

2439
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,920
to do. But as far as going back and

2440
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,160
doing a new port

2441
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,920
>> Show me a city that will sign on

2442
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:43,720
to

2443
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,000
being responsible to us to pay the

2444
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,400
payments due on a bond on a recreation

2445
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,960
center. Show me a city that will sign

2446
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,360
their name to that.

2447
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,520
>> Yeah,

2448
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,720
I just I just think to put an interlocal

2449
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,360
agreement I mean cuz realistically you'd

2450
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,040
have to figure it out by August to get

2451
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,120
it on the November ballot in my opinion.

2452
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,120
So So, we don't even have consisten-

2453
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,000
con- consensus here if we would support

2454
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,840
one or two. So, that I mean that's the

2455
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,280
absolute lowest baseline and

2456
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,960
>> I'll be real frank with you.

2457
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,280
Consistency support one or two sounds

2458
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,560
like one or two.

2459
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,480
There There's a whole lot of

2460
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,840
people who say zero sounds a lot better

2461
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:25,920
than one or two.

2462
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:26,480
>> Sure.

2463
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:30,160
>> And And frankly, until somebody's

2464
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,680
I mean, North Logan keeps saying, "Why

2465
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,360
can't the county ever get anything

2466
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:35,400
done?"

2467
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,440
Well,

2468
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:38,160
we're going to build it and you're going

2469
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,760
to operate it. And we're on the hook for

2470
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,040
the money and you can walk. So, well,

2471
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,120
we'll sign an interlocal agreement. Have

2472
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,440
you ever thought about what it really

2473
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:48,600
means to enforce an interlocal agreement

2474
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,240
with a city that doesn't want to pay?

2475
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:51,880
>> Yeah, and

2476
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,520
>> How How do you do that? Do you get a

2477
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,600
judgment against them and go seize a

2478
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:02,480
fire engine that we own or do you What do What do you actually do

2479
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:02,840
>> And and

2480
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,080
>> to make them pay?

2481
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,720
>> And can we put a an agreement like that

2482
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,560
together in

2483
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,720
a month and a half? I just There's no way. So, I

2484
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,720
>> There There is only one way to do it and

2485
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:15,880
that is

2486
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,000
to have them be responsible on the bond.

2487
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:19,800
>> And build it.

2488
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,160
>> And I haven't heard any of them lined up

2489
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,120
to say we'll put our name on the bond.

2490
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,480
>> Well, in fact, there's several cities

2491
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:29,120
who already support a robust recreation

2492
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:29,440
program

2493
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,440
>> Oh, they're They're supporting

2494
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:35,120
you putting your name on the bond. I I I

2495
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,240
tell you there's great support for that

2496
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,000
idea.

2497
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,840
>> And I'm not pushing and have never

2498
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,640
pushed for a county-wide recreation

2499
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,040
program. I'm just saying where that

2500
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,720
committee is, if you start to ask them

2501
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,040
to back up and let's appoint somebody,

2502
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,240
there it's There's no way.

2503
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,600
>> we What can we offer them, Sandy? I

2504
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,040
mean, what benefit having the county

2505
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,480
involved in this is there?

2506
01:27:57,480 --> 01:27:59,480
Why Why is that a good idea?

2507
01:27:59,480 --> 01:28:01,760
>> There's More people More people pay for

2508
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,240
it.

2509
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:02,520
>> Yeah.

2510
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,800
>> Oh, well.

2511
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,240
That's

2512
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:04,520
>> Yes.

2513
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,800
>> What do you know, then?

2514
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:06,160
>> Yeah.

2515
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,760
>> It's the golden rule

2516
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,040
of paying for it.

2517
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:09,880
>> But nobody uses it.

2518
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,440
>> I think that's I think that's one way to look at it,

2519
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,800
but another way is like why would you

2520
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,800
establish a county library system? Why

2521
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,960
would you establish a countywide waste

2522
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,480
management system? Why? Well, for

2523
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,120
efficiency and economy of scale and

2524
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,320
because

2525
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,880
most people don't even know where the

2526
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,200
boundaries of a city I ran for Logan

2527
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,840
City Council and I still don't know the

2528
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,480
exact notches where North Logan starts

2529
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:40,000
and Logan ends. Like the average person

2530
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,400
doesn't know, "Okay, I'm leaving Logan.

2531
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,880
Now I'm entering North Logan." No, they

2532
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,720
just look at here's a rec center in the

2533
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,720
county that benefits all of us and

2534
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,400
there's a lot of people who do want that

2535
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,040
as made manifest by the study that's

2536
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:53,280
been done in the questionnaire that's

2537
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,920
been done. So, I'm saying if we're

2538
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,960
trying to be good stewards and represent

2539
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,120
our people who want something, let's

2540
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,360
give it the best shot and say, "If you

2541
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,000
want it, here's how much it would cost,

2542
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,880
here's where it would go." Here and I

2543
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,520
really I think it's only realistic to

2544
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,200
have one. I'll just go on the record

2545
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,240
saying that. So, I think even if it's a

2546
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,640
hypothetical exercise of saying, "Look,

2547
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,480
board, you get one rec center, you get

2548
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:17,320
$50 million. If you want water slides,

2549
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,000
if you want that, figure out what you

2550
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,680
want. Let's put it together. Let's show

2551
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,120
people pictures of it. Let's explain

2552
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,840
what all the all the other taxes they're

2553
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,440
paying. Let's talk about how much it's

2554
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,440
going to cost to maintain and you can go

2555
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,280
in eyes wide open with this is what you

2556
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,880
want and this is how much you pay." I

2557
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,600
think we owe it to our population to do

2558
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,280
that and that's what I'm saying and I'm

2559
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,040
saying I don't think it's realistic to

2560
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,400
do that in 2 months. So, if if we

2561
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:43,840
appoint people and they want to reject

2562
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,480
that appointment cuz they're so fed up

2563
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:47,600
on they're done with it or if Nibley

2564
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,920
wants to say, "I'm going to just I know

2565
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,960
they have a what, annual budget of $2

2566
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,760
million and for example, the the North

2567
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,640
Logan soccer facility is 70,000 square

2568
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,440
foot and cost $6 million 10 years ago.

2569
01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:02,280
If they with their $2 million budget

2570
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,360
want to say, "We're going to build

2571
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,040
something." They can build a $10,000

2572
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,440
facility and they can move forward on

2573
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:10,640
that if if that's their prerogative, but

2574
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:11,880
I don't think we put our best foot

2575
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,080
forward. I don't think we've had

2576
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,120
equitable geographic representation. So,

2577
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:17,640
I'm saying is let's give that a fair

2578
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,600
shake and if people don't want to do

2579
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,440
that, that's fine, but I am saying this

2580
01:30:22,440 --> 01:30:23,640
is how I would approach it and I'm

2581
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,480
putting that proposal forward so we

2582
01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:26,720
actually are moving forward.

2583
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,880
>> I think with a plan the idea to study it

2584
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,990
is a great idea.

2585
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,760
» And if we put it to a vote, all we've

2586
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,000
done is considered frustration because

2587
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,760
we haven't come down to what you said,

2588
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,720
who's responsible, who's running.

2589
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:41,840
>> We have to figure that out.

2590
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,840
>> If I can speak up,

2591
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:44,520
cuz I I see

2592
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,000
>> Be careful, aren't you running for

2593
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,640
election?

2594
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:47,800
>> Well, there'll only be a little bit of

2595
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,320
time.

2596
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,720
>> That's That's George speaking shut up.

2597
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,560
>> No campaigning here.

2598
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,080
>> If it wasn't for citizens

2599
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,320
>> I I'm I'm kind of where George is at is

2600
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,080
one, there's a lot of legal questions

2601
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,400
here. So, we're talking about interlocal

2602
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,070
agreements and I I don't know

2603
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,760
enforce that. Like George said, I think

2604
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,520
that has to be part of

2605
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,920
what's being voted on.

2606
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,720
>> Caesar's city offices.

2607
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,080
>> But but I think a lot of the issues that

2608
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,560
we've been dealing with in the county

2609
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,160
over the last

2610
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,760
10 years while while I've been here

2611
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,760
are where we've kind of the county has

2612
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,240
taken the lead on something and then

2613
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,400
kind of gets stuck holding the bag. And

2614
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,640
then people it's a convenient place for

2615
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,040
people to point fingers and say, oh,

2616
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,160
look, the county's dysfunctional. But

2617
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:39,400
really we're trying to hold things together that were put on

2618
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,520
the county that really shouldn't have

2619
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:41,880
been there in the first place and

2620
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,040
responsibilities that aren't there. And so, I think we

2621
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,840
need to take this slow and make sure

2622
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,240
that if the county is taking this on, we

2623
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,600
have

2624
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,600
everything in place that [clears throat]

2625
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,960
we're not going to be stuck with

2626
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,320
a $100 million

2627
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:57,640
bond

2628
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,720
and then operating costs in perpetuity

2629
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,200
for a building that's just sitting

2630
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,960
vacant because we can't afford to run

2631
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,400
it.

2632
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,310
>> I think

2633
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,160
No,

2634
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,440
Keegan,

2635
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:12,800
I'm I would your hand, I don't have any

2636
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,800
objection to studying the issue, but I

2637
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,200
my vision for the county is to try and

2638
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,520
take

2639
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,360
selected things and do them well.

2640
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:28,880
And the airport is a huge responsibility

2641
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,200
that we've taken and and it's it's a

2642
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,680
it's an opportunity with

2643
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,600
blue ocean in front of it. It's wide

2644
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,480
open what we can do with that.

2645
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:41,520
Um

2646
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,040
if we spread ourselves and our energy

2647
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:48,240
too thinly, we won't get anything done.

2648
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,440
I I just

2649
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:54,800
from what you the capacity you have in

2650
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,160
our government is somewhat limited. We

2651
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,240
don't have a large staff contingent to

2652
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:01,880
do these things.

2653
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,080
Uh

2654
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,480
if if you go over and and look at the

2655
01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:07,000
cities,

2656
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,320
they're better staffed than we are at

2657
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,400
the county at doing a whole number of

2658
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,680
things.

2659
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,600
North Logan, for example, is better

2660
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,640
staffed

2661
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,960
and more capable of accomplishing a goal

2662
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,280
like this than we are.

2663
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:27,920
We we have broad responsibilities that we need to take care of. Anyway, I

2664
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,320
did I'm sorry to have taken up time.

2665
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:30,840
>> No.

2666
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,800
>> have one thing I'd like to do if you

2667
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,880
have 3 minutes.

2668
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,200
I meant to have Kurt talk a little bit

2669
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,000
about what we think should be done with

2670
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,600
subdivisions and and as

2671
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,240
a study that we'd like to to do. Do you

2672
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,520
have 5 minutes to listen to that before

2673
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:49,880
we go?

2674
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,080
>> Jo Ann still needs to do her report.

2675
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,360
>> Well, I have a question too about the

2676
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:55,680
steering committee.

2677
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:55,920
>> Okay.

2678
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,200
>> Before we leave the rec thing, how

2679
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,080
how's it made up geographically? Is it

2680
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,560
all one city or what?

2681
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,960
>> No, it was it was a few individuals who

2682
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,200
decided they wanted this study and they

2683
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,360
asked the county if we would fund the

2684
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,800
study and they said yes and they opened

2685
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,200
it up said anybody who wants to come be

2686
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,960
a part of steering committee can and it

2687
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,080
was mostly two cities that showed up to

2688
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:18,200
be

2689
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,320
>> Which which two?

2690
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,280
>> Um North Logan and Nibley.

2691
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:21,640
>> Oh, okay.

2692
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,520
>> And Smithfield has been quite active

2693
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,800
just recently. Um

2694
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,200
I I was I just want to make clear I'm

2695
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,800
not advocating for to push this to put

2696
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,200
it on the ballot. I'm just saying the

2697
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,840
steering committee

2698
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,160
is uh

2699
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,520
pretty much to a point where they're

2700
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,680
I I just don't know. And and I I agree

2701
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,520
with what you're saying, Keegan. Like if

2702
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,080
we're going to do it and I don't know

2703
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:46,760
that we should do it.

2704
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,560
I think that the role of of county

2705
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,680
government and I've said this all along

2706
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,160
and every meeting I've ever been in, I'm

2707
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:57,080
here is to just listen and um

2708
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:58,880
if anything goes to the ballot, it has

2709
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,720
to be spelled out to the penny what it's

2710
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,000
going to cost people. And that was my

2711
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,200
contention all along is that whatever

2712
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,520
goes to the ballot, whenever it goes, it

2713
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,480
needs to be to the penny what it's going

2714
01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:11,240
to cost so that people make an informed

2715
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:12,480
decision.

2716
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:15,390
And um

2717
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,760
I just I just think that they've

2718
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,360
they have never come to a consensus.

2719
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:20,840
You've been to those meetings. They

2720
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,480
There's never been a consensus. Well, if we choose one location, then the

2721
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:25,800
other people are going to vote no. If we

2722
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,520
choose two locations, Logan might vote

2723
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,000
no. It's it's kind of a mess and maybe

2724
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,480
I I feel like

2725
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:36,720
sometimes I feel like we as a county can

2726
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,120
do a better job of leadership in some

2727
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,760
ways. The economy of scale, fire and

2728
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,000
public safety, we should be making that

2729
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,440
a priority and and those are the kinds

2730
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:49,280
of things that that are very important

2731
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,360
to everyone to be to have public safety

2732
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,120
and fire safety.

2733
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:54,080
Um

2734
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,720
I don't know if this is in the realms of

2735
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,120
what we need to do as a I don't know if

2736
01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,960
this is the one

2737
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:02,440
project to take on as a whole county at

2738
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:03,720
the time. So

2739
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,120
>> Well, we we funded $150,000 to study it. So I I

2740
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,120
sure hope we're not saying we shouldn't

2741
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,400
have done that in the first place.

2742
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,360
>> No, I think we absolutely did a good job

2743
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,720
of studying it. BCBO's done a great job

2744
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,560
and there's some really good information

2745
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,600
about the logistics and demographics and

2746
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:21,760
what it would cost and what the

2747
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,200
construction costs would be and what

2748
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,280
potential locations are. They've done a

2749
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,200
really good job and answered a lot of

2750
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,240
questions for the people that are really

2751
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,040
um pushing to to have that information.

2752
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,120
So I I I I think that the RAPS RAPS is

2753
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,040
supposed to be recreation arts parks and

2754
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,720
zoo. And so it is part of what RAPS is

2755
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,400
for and I think this absolutely was an

2756
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,200
appropriate use of RAPS money.

2757
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:45,680
>> Yeah, and I think that information And

2758
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,080
from what I understand, they're not the

2759
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,080
BCBO isn't saying, "Well, we've looked

2760
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,600
at it and you guys really don't need a

2761
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,040
rec center." I think they're saying

2762
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,360
like, "You

2763
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:55,720
I mean, they're saying you probably need

2764
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,480
three. I I don't agree with that

2765
01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:58,760
personally. I don't think there's a

2766
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,120
financial appetite for that, but

2767
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,720
I do think it would be a shame if they

2768
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,400
said, "We recommend at least one." and

2769
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,480
we're like, "Cool, thanks. Take our

2770
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,680
money." and

2771
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,760
"See you." like

2772
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,800
I don't think our voters our people

2773
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,320
wanted that outcome.

2774
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:15,120
>> No.

2775
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,920
And and literally it comes the bottom

2776
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,600
line is it comes to this council to say,

2777
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,000
"We accept your proposal. We will put it

2778
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:22,800
on the ballot."

2779
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,320
>> Yeah, so I think it's an opportunity for

2780
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,040
us to lead out. And so let's be leaders

2781
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,600
and make decisions. And sometimes that

2782
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,320
means offending some people. We say it

2783
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,920
needs to go here. Other people will say,

2784
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,240
"That's we're driving too long." and but

2785
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,480
a decision needs to be made. So let's

2786
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:41,440
get closer to that.

2787
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:42,240
That's all I'm saying.

2788
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,560
>> Yeah, I agree. Okay, Joanne, did you

2789
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,040
want to give a council report before we

2790
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,000
move to Kurt.

2791
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,560
>> I just attended the cog meeting. They

2792
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,280
talked about how to do the application

2793
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,360
and the visitors bureau.

2794
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,360
They're doing good. You know, we've all

2795
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:00,920
seen it throughout the county through

2796
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,040
the summer. So

2797
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,760
>> When are the cog applications due?

2798
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:05,800
Do you know? Do you remember?

2799
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,160
>> I don't know.

2800
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,240
I think it's I think it's August like

2801
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,280
August 4th.

2802
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,480
>> Okay.

2803
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:13,200
>> Seems like.

2804
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,800
>> I think they come to us in October. So

2805
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,960
Okay. Now, let me ask

2806
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,200
>> I'm sorry. I I have to just jump in

2807
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,200
ahead of Kurt. I just got a text from

2808
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,640
Bryson saying that we need to schedule a

2809
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,360
canvas either on the 6th or the 7th

2810
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,400
because the cure letters that they're

2811
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,440
sending have a deadline of the 3rd.

2812
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:31,880
>> Oh.

2813
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,440
>> Okay.

2814
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:35,280
>> That was a good thing to know. The 6th

2815
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:36,400
or the 7th?

2816
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,270
>> Yes.

2817
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,240
» Okay.

2818
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,280
Um

2819
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,080
The 6th would be much better for me.

2820
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:45,280
>> Same.

2821
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,240
>> Saturday or Monday?

2822
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,800
>> Yeah.

2823
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,400
Can we do that? Monday afternoon?

2824
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,920
Do you still want to say 4:00 or would

2825
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,880
mornings or noon be better? What works

2826
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,120
for everybody most?

2827
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,040
>> Afternoon's better for me.

2828
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,600
>> 5:00 is better for me.

2829
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,800
>> Same.

2830
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,240
>> Okay. 4:00?

2831
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:03,840
Is 4:00

2832
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:04,880
>> 5:00 if we can.

2833
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:05,600
>> 5:00 is better.

2834
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,120
>> We say 5:00. Does that work for

2835
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,400
everybody?

2836
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:09,560
On a Monday?

2837
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,480
>> If it's a 15-minute, that's fine.

2838
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:12,800
>> Okay.

2839
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,360
>> Last one didn't take very long. So

2840
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,560
>> Yeah, they haven't. I think I have it

2841
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,760
the record. Yeah, I think it was

2842
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,160
2 and 1/2 minutes.

2843
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:20,840
>> Mhm.

2844
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:21,800
>> Okay.

2845
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,640
So, the 6th.

2846
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,960
Okay, thanks, Dean. And now, I I know I

2847
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,760
want to hear from Kurt cuz we had an

2848
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,640
interesting conversation earlier. But

2849
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,800
because it's not on the agenda, is that

2850
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,840
are we okay to just let him tell us what

2851
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,000
he's

2852
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,440
>> I would

2853
01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:38,400
suggest amending the agenda for another

2854
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,440
item of business.

2855
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:41,880
>> Okay.

2856
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,160
All right. Somebody want to make a that

2857
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,720
we amend the agenda for another item of

2858
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,040
business.

2859
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,000
>> I'll make the motion.

2860
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:49,600
>> Anyone second?

2861
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:50,280
>> Second.

2862
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:51,160
>> Okay, so it's been moved and seconded

2863
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:52,600
that we amend the agenda and add another

2864
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:53,440
item of business.

2865
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:54,920
>> What what is the item of business?

2866
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,240
Should we state what it is?

2867
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:57,520
>> To discuss

2868
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,160
>> It's not really It's not

2869
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,440
Point of order here. It's It's I I had

2870
01:40:02,440 --> 01:40:04,720
it in my list to bring it up and I

2871
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,320
didn't get to it. I was racing around

2872
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,040
trying to find a plaque.

2873
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:11,920
>> Jordyn gave it to me. Sorry.

2874
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,600
>> So she Part of the Finally ran into Part

2875
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,800
of the executive's report?

2876
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,280
>> Where is it? It was here. It's I gave it

2877
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:18,520
to Sandy.

2878
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,720
Okay. But that's why I

2879
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,120
>> Okay.

2880
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,920
>> actually part of my report of county

2881
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,280
executive that didn't get done.

2882
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:28,000
>> Okay.

2883
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,640
>> I want to draw the motion.

2884
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,520
>> Okay. I I think we're fine. Go ahead,

2885
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,600
Kurt. Please. Yep.

2886
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,640
>> All right. How many minutes?

2887
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:36,200
>> Hm?

2888
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,480
>> He said three.

2889
01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:39,800
>> Three and five.

2890
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:40,160
But

2891
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,360
>> Ready, set, go.

2892
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,400
>> Deputy County Executive

2893
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,760
Potter Mountain, you got the memo on

2894
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,040
that. I don't have all of the agreements

2895
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,800
yet. I'm a little frustrated I don't

2896
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,680
have them, but they are pending. We'll

2897
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,480
have them to you as soon as we can. So,

2898
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:54,000
agreements

2899
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,360
We've come to those agreements. They

2900
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,400
just need to be more memorialized in

2901
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,080
writing. We'll get them to you as soon

2902
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:00,280
as we can.

2903
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,920
On subdivision issue, for the last

2904
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,240
month, we have about 25 or 30 hours

2905
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,600
invested in just meeting with

2906
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,320
individuals and small groups to get

2907
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:09,960
ideas about what they're doing in other

2908
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,240
counties or how how subdivision

2909
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,200
ordinances affect them, and just

2910
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,760
It It may result in nothing,

2911
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:22,960
but at least we're getting in-depth uh

2912
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,120
viewpoints from people who are involved

2913
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:30,800
in the development business and in the growth and we've had We spent

2914
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,800
time with Jordan. We took him to lunch

2915
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,800
and and got a lot of good information

2916
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,120
out of him. That's the kind of

2917
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,080
interviews that we're doing.

2918
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,440
So, if you got any questions

2919
01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:40,960
>> Yeah, Kurt, I have a question. So, how

2920
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,560
granular are you getting? Is it like

2921
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,920
cross sections for the roads? Are we

2922
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:46,960
talking curb and gutter? Are we talking

2923
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,040
water? Is it everything?

2924
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,240
>> We're talking everything. We're just

2925
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:51,720
talking about There are really two

2926
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,000
categories. That is

2927
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,640
We've been talking about the philosophy

2928
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,760
of of having growth be in the cities.

2929
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,720
And how that looks. We talked We talked

2930
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,920
to cities. We talked to

2931
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:03,800
um

2932
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,360
health, water, without Those are the

2933
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,840
kinds of discussions that we're having.

2934
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,520
And then the other the other pressure

2935
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,560
that we've got is then we've got our

2936
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,520
rural developments, the unincorporated

2937
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,000
uh developments that are not

2938
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,680
being proposed next to a city. All of

2939
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,000
those things are being considered. I

2940
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:22,800
don't have anything to report to you. I

2941
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,480
don't intend to have anything to report

2942
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:26,720
to you yet. We're just in the sit down

2943
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,240
and have discussions, get ideas. Uh

2944
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,720
I've learned things I didn't and I and

2945
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,240
heard ideas that I'd never thought of

2946
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:35,280
before.

2947
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,080
Things that are going on other places uh

2948
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:39,840
that are really effective. Well, we just

2949
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,440
need to talk about those things. And in

2950
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:43,080
the end, hopefully there'll be some

2951
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,200
recommendations. Maybe we'll get a a

2952
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,000
really good ordinance out of it. But in

2953
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,920
the meantime, those discussions are

2954
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,720
turning out to be really interesting.

2955
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,120
>> We're trying to memorialize and so that

2956
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,760
we can give you some feedback on that.

2957
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,400
They may lead nowhere. I Kurt, I think

2958
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,760
the observation you made about what's

2959
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,520
causing pressure in the undeveloped in

2960
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,360
the unincorporated counties was an

2961
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,000
interesting one. Why don't you just

2962
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,040
share that with them?

2963
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:15,240
>> What we're finding is that the unincorporated areas, the more

2964
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,120
rural ones that aren't next to next to

2965
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,560
cities

2966
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,560
the pressures aren't being driven by

2967
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,160
developers.

2968
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,760
The pressures are coming from the

2969
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,680
property owners themselves.

2970
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,280
And we just need

2971
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,520
and

2972
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,560
we're having discussion on on Thursday

2973
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,160
with part of the planning commission and

2974
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,640
with Nolan to discuss if those things we

2975
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:36,960
think those are the

2976
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,080
uh those pressures are the same here as

2977
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,880
they're feeling elsewhere. Those are

2978
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,280
just the kind of discussions that we've

2979
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,000
had.

2980
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,520
I really hope that there's something

2981
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,640
that'll come of this and that we'll

2982
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,360
really like a solution.

2983
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,560
But we don't know for sure that we'll

2984
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,320
come there, but I think without doing

2985
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,480
this

2986
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,600
and getting a feel for and getting

2987
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,200
in-depth feedback

2988
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,760
from stakeholders who are affected by

2989
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,280
uh the ordinance we passed, I think that

2990
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,720
there's a there's a real possibility

2991
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,000
we'll come up come up with something

2992
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,280
good. Or if we didn't listen, we'd come

2993
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,400
up with something that was was harmful

2994
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,280
without realizing it.

2995
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,400
>> Good. Oh, yeah. I I think that we're on

2996
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,640
such a cusp of growth that in 20 years

2997
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,600
from now, I want people to look back and

2998
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:23,600
think

2999
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,400
that we got something right. That we managed that growth in a way

3000
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,240
that is still going to be good in 20

3001
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:29,600
years.

3002
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,120
>> big enough deal that it's worth a try.

3003
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:32,920
>> Yep.

3004
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:33,600
Okay.

3005
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:34,400
>> Thanks, Fred.

3006
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:35,640
>> Thank you.

3007
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,920
>> Okay, anybody else?

3008
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,040
Okay, motion to adjourn.

3009
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:41,000
>> So moved.

3010
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:47,310
>> Second.

3011
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,360
I can't second the motion.