1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,040 on the 10. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,200 >> Hit hit really hard. Get everybody in 3 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:03,439 order. 4 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:07,190 >> Okay, it's 5 o'clock. 5 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,480 » Okay, we're going to go ahead and start 6 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,960 our council meeting. Welcome to everyone 7 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,639 who's here. We appreciate you all 8 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:15,759 joining us and we're um going to go 9 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:17,359 ahead and get started with an opening 10 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:20,640 remarks by council member Keegan Gerity. 11 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,359 So, with all the fires that have been 12 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:26,400 happening around the state, um I think 13 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,080 all of us are grateful for our first 14 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,039 responders and sometimes we recognize 15 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:33,440 them in a very general way, but if 16 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,800 you'll indulge me, I thought I would 17 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,239 share four brief stories on that 18 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:40,640 illustrate some of the work that they do 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 that we may not be aware of. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,120 So, um, first one I wanted to share was 21 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,719 probably the one that's the most local 22 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:50,960 and the most obvious was the fire on 23 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,239 Canyon Road. Um, so, uh, for those of 24 00:00:56,239 --> 00:00:59,440 you that may not know, um, firefighters 25 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,920 and apparatus from Logan, Cash County, 26 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,159 Smithfield, Paradise, and several other 27 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:06,560 agencies worked together, 28 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,240 uh, under a unified operational 29 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 structure during that fire. um and they 30 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,479 protected infrastructure and property. 31 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:16,320 Um which highlights the importance of 32 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,320 that coordination and building those 33 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:20,560 relationships long before an incident 34 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,680 occurs. Um if any of you have you know 35 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,119 tried to coordinate with friends and 36 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:26,960 family just to decide on a place to go 37 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,799 for lunch, you can know how difficult it 38 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:30,880 can be to gather consensus among a 39 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 group. So to to work uh that quickly in 40 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,320 an emergency situation requires a lot of 41 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,840 preparation. 42 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,400 Um, the second one I want to talk about 43 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,159 is the statewide fire deploy deployment. 44 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:46,159 So, I actually didn't know this before, 45 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:48,000 but did you guys know that sometimes 46 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,840 those in the county actually go to other 47 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,840 counties to help out when they need it? 48 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Um, so specifically, um, the Cash Fire 49 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 District deployed engine boss Tyrell 50 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Frederickson and firefighters Dawson 51 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,560 Davis and Braden Wyn as part of an 52 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,200 initial task force uh, supporting 53 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,040 wildfire operations across northern 54 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,759 Utah. During their deployment, the crew 55 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,360 responded to several significant 56 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,360 incidents, including the Canyon Fire in 57 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,440 Logan, the Johnson fire in Boxelder 58 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,920 County, the Bates fire near Stanbury, 59 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:19,920 and the Rock Canyon fire in Morgan 60 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,640 County. Um, and the deployment required 61 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:25,120 the firefighters to spend approximately 62 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,280 two weeks away from home and their 63 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,480 families and their normal 64 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,160 responsibilities and others, I'm sure, 65 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,879 had to pick up the slack. If any of you 66 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:35,360 have ever had to travel for work or 67 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,519 something, you know that life doesn't 68 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:39,840 wait for you and things happen with your 69 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,519 family while you're gone. So, appreciate 70 00:02:41,519 --> 00:02:44,959 the sacrifice they made. Um the third 71 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:48,000 one is um the Cash County Fire District 72 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,160 paramedic and ambulance personnel um 73 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,640 from Bshift along with volunteers from 74 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,800 the Hyram City Fire Department responded 75 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,360 to a medical emergency in Millville uh 76 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,200 involving a 70-year-old man who had 77 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,120 become unresponsive. 78 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,959 The first arriving personnel found the 79 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:04,480 patient not breathing and without a 80 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,440 pulse. Uh advanced cardiac life support 81 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,680 measures were immediately initiated. 82 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,840 Crews provided high quality CPR, 83 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,680 advanced airway management, life-saving 84 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,879 cardiac medications, and defibrillation. 85 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:19,599 And after about 15 minutes or about 18 86 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,400 minutes of CPR and four cardiac defibs, 87 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,959 the patient's pulse returned. He was 88 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:26,800 stabilized and transported to Logan 89 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,959 Regional and was later flown to MCD 90 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:30,640 where he underwent a triple bypass 91 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,959 surgery. And several weeks later, he 92 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:34,879 returned home. So, they literally saved 93 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:37,680 someone's life. Um, and then the last, 94 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,519 um, story I'll share highlights an 95 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:42,879 individual named Valerie Hubard, um, who 96 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,440 represents the type of commitment that's 97 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,400 essential, um, for providing reliable 98 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,159 emergency services in smaller 99 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,040 communities. She served with squad 140 100 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,720 in Nibi since 2016, responding to EMS 101 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,799 calls and providing patient care to 102 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:01,680 communities of Nibi and Millville. In 103 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,680 2022, she expanded her service by 104 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 joining the Cash County Fire District as 105 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,040 an AM AEM firefighter and has continued 106 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,640 to build her capabilities through 107 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,720 additional fire and hazardous materials 108 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 training. Today, she serves as both 109 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,359 part-time and paid on call firefighter 110 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:18,959 for the district and helps coordinate 111 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,680 operations of squad 140. She routinely 112 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,759 makes herself available for more than 113 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,680 200 hours of on call coverage each 114 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,720 month, helping ensure that that an EMS 115 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,639 responder is available to Nibi and 116 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,360 Millville when an emergency occurs. Even 117 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,040 with that commitment, she regularly 118 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,960 finds additional time to work 12 and 119 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,400 24-hour shifts at station 150. And uh 120 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,080 her service is backed by significant 121 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,240 training and experience. She's certified 122 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,320 as a firefighter one and two. She's 123 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,919 completed the hazmat awareness and 124 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:50,160 operations training. and she's also an 125 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,800 experienced EMS educator, having served 126 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,440 for six years as both EMS instructor and 127 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,919 EMS training officer in addition to 128 00:04:57,919 --> 00:04:59,280 serving as the American Heart 129 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,560 Association CPR instructor. So, I just 130 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,960 want to recognize those folks and I want 131 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,280 to thank uh our chief Brady George for 132 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,680 helping me collect those stories and 133 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,160 just uh recognize all that they do for 134 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,080 us and keeping us safe. So, thank you. 135 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:22,390 >> THANK YOU. [applause] 136 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,840 IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND and join me for 137 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:27,430 the pledge of allegiance. 138 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,479 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 139 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:33,440 United States of America and to the 140 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,639 republic for which it stands, one nation 141 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:40,160 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 142 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,510 justice for all. 143 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,840 » Okay. Thank you, Keegan. Um, it was 144 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,080 great to honor those people that work so 145 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,520 hard and we don't always see them 146 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,960 because they're behind the scenes. So, 147 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,440 thank you for doing that. Um, does 148 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,280 anyone want to make a motion about the 149 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,400 agenda for tonight? 150 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,160 >> I move to approve the agenda for 151 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,840 tonight's meeting. 152 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,199 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 153 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:04,880 approve the agenda. Those in favor say 154 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,199 I. 155 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:05,919 >> I. 156 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:07,120 >> Any opposed? 157 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,800 >> That is the amended agenda, right? 158 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,039 >> Yes. 159 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:09,680 >> Okay. 160 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,240 >> And then the review and approve the 161 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,280 minutes. Um I did have um there's a 162 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,440 couple things on the minutes. 163 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,080 >> I should say we had a discussion about 164 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,919 the tenative budget. We're not going to 165 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:24,319 be presenting that tonight. So that is a 166 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:25,919 change in the 167 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:30,639 >> Okay. Are you not going to present any numbers or like nothing? I knew it 168 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,520 was going to be modified but um 169 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,600 >> we're going to present all of it in two 170 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,639 weeks. Okay. 171 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,919 >> So that's that was our decision. And the 172 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:42,319 word tentative actually has a legal 173 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,039 meaning of of of something specific 174 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:47,440 you're supposed to put in a tentative 175 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,479 budget. It's a word used in the statute. 176 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:52,319 We were going to give you preliminary 177 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:55,280 numbers. And so I think the confusion 178 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,919 over the word tenative means we probably 179 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:00,000 just should not get involved in that 180 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,639 because it will not be the tenative 181 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:03,440 budget 182 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,240 >> tonight. Okay. 183 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,199 >> You want to strike that? 184 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:06,080 >> Yep. Let me 185 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,199 >> move to a strike 6B on the agenda. 186 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:09,840 Second. 187 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,840 >> Moved and seconded that we strike 6B 188 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,000 from our amended agenda. Those in favor 189 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,800 say I. 190 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,240 >> I. Any opposed? 191 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,280 >> Okay. Thanks, George. Okay. The the 192 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,120 minutes. When I looked through the 193 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,280 minutes, um Kurt Web's name is 194 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,919 misspelled and so is Shawn Mills. And so 195 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:28,080 that was the 196 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,560 not a not a huge deal, but to them it 197 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,479 probably is. It's a it'll be a record 198 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:35,120 that goes down in history. 199 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,440 So, if we can change those two things. 200 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,759 Anybody else have any other um things 201 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,240 that they noticed in the minutes? 202 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,919 Does someone want to make a motion about 203 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:45,599 the minutes? 204 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:48,080 >> Move to accept the amendments from 7:28 205 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,319 to county council the county council 206 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,479 meeting from uh 728. 207 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:53,039 >> Second 208 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:53,919 >> with those amendments. 209 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:55,199 >> With the amendments. 210 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:55,520 >> Okay. 211 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,000 >> Second. 212 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,199 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 213 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,680 approve the meeting minutes from 728 214 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 with the with the amenioned amendments. 215 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Those in favor say I. I. 216 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,160 >> Any opposed? 217 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,440 >> All right. 218 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,599 Okay. Report of the county executive. 219 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:11,280 >> There there's two or three things I 220 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,039 wanted to talk about including 221 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:16,495 appointments. Uh we we have been 222 00:08:16,495 --> 00:08:17,440 [cough and clears throat] 223 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,639 obtaining u applications for the fire 224 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,080 board. Uh I think the last count I had 225 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,280 we had like 13 and we're continuing to 226 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,800 receive those. The time period is open 227 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,279 through I believe it's August 23rd or 228 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:34,800 24th. 229 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,880 That's a weekend. So, we'll look at what 230 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,479 we receive over the weekend as well. So, 231 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:42,719 those appointments are getting those 232 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:44,320 responses. 233 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Um, between tonight's meeting and the 234 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,480 meeting previously, Logan City went 235 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,399 ahead and approved our interlocal 236 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:55,519 agreement regarding the airport. We'd 237 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:58,320 like to get a fast start on that. Uh, 238 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,880 we'd like to arrange a sponsor board 239 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,959 meeting. If you recall, that isn't um a 240 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:08,000 public appointment. The sponsor board is 241 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,519 certain positions are to be filled. Um 242 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:14,800 Mayor Anderson is is going to select 243 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,760 himself and one councilman, 244 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,680 council person, and he's he he is going 245 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:24,720 to give me that name tomorrow. So, I'll 246 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,600 have the two from Logan City. We have 247 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,720 three council people, county council 248 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,680 people who serve on that sponsor board. 249 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,080 Uh Keegan is currently serving on the 250 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,720 airport authority board. If you could 251 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,399 determine what three you wish to serve 252 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:44,720 on the sponsor board, that would 253 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,080 complete that. The county executive is 254 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,800 supposed to choose two county elected 255 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,120 officials. and I have asked u Matt Funk 256 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:01,120 and Bryson to serve as those two 257 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,040 um elected officials. So that would 258 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,279 complete our seven. Soon as we get the 259 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,560 seven completed, we can have a brief 260 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:11,040 meeting there and begin the process of 261 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,120 soliciting for application to the 262 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,320 airport authority board. So, um I 263 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,800 believe it's your decision, uh Sandy, 264 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,519 and your council as to which three 265 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:23,360 persons you want to serve, but if you 266 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,839 could determine that tonight, we could 267 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:28,079 proceed with that sponsor board 268 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:29,279 immediately. 269 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,560 >> Okay. Um does there any I know Keegan's 270 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,640 been involved along through through the 271 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,160 whole thing, so I'm assuming you would 272 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,760 want to stay on that sponsor board. 273 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,079 >> I'll publicly express my desire to Yes. 274 00:10:40,079 --> 00:10:41,760 >> stay there. Yeah. Um, are there any 275 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 other two council members who would like 276 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,000 to take on that role? 277 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,360 >> Yeah, the the rule is one at least no 278 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,000 more than one is to be from Logan. So, 279 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 >> okay. So, it can't be Joan or I. That's 280 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Keegan. 281 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,760 >> That's right. 282 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,720 >> And we need two others from the county. 283 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,839 >> Okay. That leaves the three of you. Is 284 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:06,160 there any four of you? 285 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,279 Um I I am very interested in doing it, 286 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:11,200 but I want to maybe publicly state it 287 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,760 just to make sure that everyone's aware 288 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,399 of part of what would come with that. Um 289 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:19,519 where the Hide Park irrigation company 290 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,440 does actually run through the airport 291 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,360 property and the airport does hold 292 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,880 could be a shareholder with that 293 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,640 organization. That would just be 294 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 something that we would would come up as 295 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,040 a something I'd have to declare as a 296 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,480 conflict of interest and abstain from 297 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,480 any action that would involve that 298 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,160 infrastructure. 299 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,680 >> Aside from that, I feel like it would be 300 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,279 an honor to serve on that board. 301 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:42,959 >> Would you state why too and what your 302 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:44,640 involvement is with the canal company? 303 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Just 304 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,040 >> Oh, just because I currently serve as 305 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,959 the um water master for that 306 00:11:48,959 --> 00:11:50,079 organization. 307 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:53,279 >> Yeah, I don't see that as a problem with 308 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,000 the sponsor board position, but I think 309 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,920 you should declare it. So there's 310 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,920 clarity there. 311 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,160 >> Nolan, do your Catherine from the south 312 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:02,880 have any 313 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,760 >> play chicken? 314 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,160 >> Yeah. 315 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 >> Do I already have fire? 316 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:08,160 >> That's a joy, right? 317 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,680 >> I already have PNC. 318 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:10,399 >> No, 319 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:13,680 >> I know everybody talking. 320 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,240 >> And when? 321 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 >> Not not a lot. Uh maybe starting up 322 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,839 there's some additional work, but we're 323 00:12:19,839 --> 00:12:21,680 hoping to hold it to four or five a 324 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,320 year. And it, if you recall, the real 325 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,120 active party in running the airport will 326 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,680 be the authority board, not the sponsor. 327 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:31,200 >> The sponsor board. 328 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,839 >> Okay, I'll try it out. And that was not 329 00:12:33,839 --> 00:12:37,360 me expressing public interest in it. So, 330 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,880 >> you accepting a responsibility. 331 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,040 >> My arm is behind my back. I think Dave 332 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,720 had a crooked neck while he was looking 333 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,240 at me here. Sure. 334 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,399 >> So, we'll have Mark and Nolan and Kegan. 335 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:48,079 And if you guys want to get together, I 336 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:50,399 can fill you in on kind of where we've 337 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:51,839 been and we're at now. 338 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:53,839 >> So, what I'll be doing is trying to 339 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:56,480 schedule a sponsor meeting maybe later 340 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,480 this week or early next week so we can 341 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,639 get started on filling out the airport 342 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:02,560 authority board because that is one of 343 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:05,839 the primary duties of sponsor board is 344 00:13:05,839 --> 00:13:08,240 to select the authority board. 345 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,880 >> Okay. Um maybe I'll ask you or and Dne, 346 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,040 what is our do we need to make some kind 347 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,040 of a um motion like what is the actual 348 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,680 legal process to appoint this sponsor 349 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,079 board members tonight? If we're going to 350 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:23,040 if they're going to meet later this 351 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,079 week, we need to make sure they're 352 00:13:24,079 --> 00:13:25,360 appointed tonight. What is the 353 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,040 appointing process? 354 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,399 >> So the council is the appointing 355 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:30,079 authority. So there just need to be a a 356 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:31,440 vote on the appointments. 357 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:31,920 >> Okay. 358 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,680 >> I would move that we accept uh those 359 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:36,639 Keegan 360 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,360 >> Mark and Nolan. Mark and Nolan uh as a 361 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,200 SP on the sponsor board for the airport 362 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:41,680 authority. 363 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,839 >> I think there was a $1,000 retainer to 364 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:45,519 have us on there. [laughter] 365 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:46,399 >> I don't think I read that. 366 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,160 >> I read the agreement a couple times. I 367 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,440 don't remember that part. 368 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,760 >> Excluding that was not in what OMP 369 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,160 review. 370 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,440 >> It wasn't that. 371 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,440 >> And I get a second on that motion. 372 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,160 >> Second. 373 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,399 >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded that 374 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,560 we accept Keegan, Mark, and Nolan to be 375 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,639 on the airport sponsor board. Those in 376 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:04,240 favor say I. 377 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,440 >> I. Any opposed? Okay, perfect. 378 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,240 >> One other matter. I I don't know if all 379 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,160 of you had a chance to go to the fair, 380 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,519 but it was a great party for Cash County 381 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,000 and we compliment everyone involved in 382 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,279 it. The rodeo was fun, the fair was fun, 383 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:24,000 the 4 and the extension and everything 384 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,880 was really well done. In the in the 385 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,880 course of getting ready for the fair, we 386 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,639 made an agreement with Logan that we 387 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,680 would improve the parking. Uh, I don't 388 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,199 know how many of you saw the north side, 389 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:40,639 but it was done very quickly and very 390 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,600 well by our county road crew. And I've 391 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,079 asked uh Jeremy to bring the guys that 392 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:50,079 were uh involved with that. Come on up 393 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:53,279 front, Jeremy, with your these guys were 394 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:55,120 down there working at night to get it 395 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,760 done. And it's I went down and looked at 396 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,320 it to see how much damage was done. It 397 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,639 still looks really good, Jeremy. There's 398 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,440 everything there. So, these are the five 399 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,360 guys that went out there and 400 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440 accomplished just line. 401 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,519 >> Come line right up here and face the 402 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:14,000 camera 403 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,480 >> and thank you. 404 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,240 >> There's a lineup right here. 405 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,399 >> Okay. And I appreciate that, too. So, 406 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:20,160 >> Jeremy, you can do a bow or a curtsy if 407 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,959 you prefer. 408 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:22,905 >> Thank Thank you all of you. Thank you. 409 00:15:22,905 --> 00:15:22,959 [applause] 410 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:27,480 >> Thank you. 411 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:28,480 [applause] 412 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,240 >> So, introduce everybody. Oh, okay. 413 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,360 >> Yeah. 414 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:52,389 >> Introduce yourself. 415 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,230 Awesome. 416 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,320 » Thanks, guys. 417 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,800 >> We're gonna give you 418 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,670 something to thanks for supporting 419 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,720 all this stuff. So, thank you so much. 420 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,160 >> It's a combined effort. 421 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,120 >> It worked great. 422 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,959 >> Yeah. So, Matt told me we as county 423 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:14,320 council members, we could pull in and 424 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,759 say we're from the county council and we 425 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,600 would be given a parking place. And I 426 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,880 pulled in and the lady said, "Oh, are 427 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,160 you here for the senior parking?" I'm 428 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,560 like, "Yeah. [laughter] 429 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,199 But I am on the county council. 430 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:27,440 So that was I was happy to have a place 431 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,000 to park. 432 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,040 >> That was better parking than the 433 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,519 council. 434 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:31,360 >> I [laughter] know it was. 435 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,600 >> The last thing is to just report 436 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,839 continuing progress with respect to the 437 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:40,720 fire board. We're um meeting and we 438 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,519 we've got another meeting this Friday 439 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,759 with the South and I have a meeting on 440 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:48,320 Thursday night with the North. So we're 441 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,279 continuing to make progress. 442 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:52,959 Okay. Thank you. 443 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:54,959 >> Chair, if I could just speak up. I I 444 00:16:54,959 --> 00:16:56,720 just looking at the agenda and Andrew 445 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,199 pointed this out for the appointments 446 00:16:59,199 --> 00:17:01,156 open and public meeting act is going to 447 00:17:01,156 --> 00:17:06,079 [snorts] require us to notice up that there were appointments going to be 448 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:06,559 made. 449 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:07,280 >> I wondered. 450 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,280 >> And so I I'm just asked that we put that 451 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,280 on the agenda for the next meeting for 452 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,880 the appointments to the airport board. I 453 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 don't want 454 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,160 >> I I know there's been some contention 455 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,520 with the airport. I don't want someone 456 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,679 coming and pointing out a flaw in our 457 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:22,240 appointment procedure at this meeting. 458 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,000 >> Okay, we will add that. 459 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,679 >> Come back and restart that process. 460 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:28,160 >> Yeah, we'll add it to our agenda on the 461 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,750 25th 462 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,640 and um 463 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,960 thank you. Okay. Um 464 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,600 6A we need to ask for Shawn Mil. 465 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Good evening, council, and thank you for 466 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,679 the opportunity to return and 467 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:52,400 talk about my favorite subject, economic 468 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,320 development. 469 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,039 Um, you'll recall that last time I was 470 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:01,679 here, I gave you the annual report 471 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:05,039 for fiscal year 26 472 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:07,760 on last year's activities and then made 473 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,520 recommendations well passed along 474 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,120 recommendations from the CEO board. 475 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,280 And just to reacquaint you, the CEO 476 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,919 board is a cash county economic 477 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:19,760 opportunity advisory board. And as the 478 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,720 namesake 479 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,280 uh implies, they are advisory only to 480 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,840 you. Oh, that's right. I am not hooked 481 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,679 up to the internet anymore. I'm sorry. 482 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:32,202 One moment, please. 483 00:18:32,202 --> 00:18:38,789 [clears throat and cough] 484 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:40,880 And the Cash County Economic Advisory 485 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Board is advisory to you 486 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,360 and you get to make the final 487 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:52,789 determination. 488 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,799 Isn't technology grand until it doesn't 489 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:15,430 work? 490 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Excellent. 491 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,760 There we go. 492 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400 All right. And you'd ask me to return um 493 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,679 particularly with two elements in play. 494 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,400 One is 495 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,360 the CEO board appointments. We have some 496 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,760 vacancies because 497 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,160 this year, GOED, Governor's Office of 498 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,440 Economic Development, Oh, by the way, 499 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Sean Melon, Bear River Association of 500 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,799 Government's Director of Economic 501 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:43,039 Development for the minutes. Um, this 502 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:44,240 year, administrative rules through 503 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Go-AD, Governor's Office of Economic 504 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:48,320 Development, uh, has sought to clarify 505 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,919 that they no longer want any elected 506 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:52,880 officials from a deciding body to be on 507 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 the board. And so, we have a a number of 508 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,240 those board vacancies that I'm uh going 509 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 to ask you to consider. as well as the 510 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,600 recommendations from the last meeting 511 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,200 which are these that are shown on the 512 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,600 screen the same as last time. the 513 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,480 contract that the county has for Bragg 514 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,480 for those economic development services 515 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,919 which I'll go into a little bit more 516 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:15,760 detail here in a moment referring to a 517 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,840 contract that's in your media packet 518 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,679 proposed contract and special projects 519 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:23,919 uh related to 520 00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:26,400 um Bridgerland Technical College has a 521 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,039 business and innovation center uh it's 522 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:31,360 called the hub and they've been wildly 523 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,520 successful uh several years ago they 524 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,120 were recipients of this grant money and 525 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,159 saw Mark Alexander uh increase the 526 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:40,400 capacity of entrepreneurs or young 527 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880 businesses in age of the business, not 528 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,320 necessarily young people that were 529 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,120 founders or owners. Uh and has done a 530 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,600 really great job of showing upward job 531 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080 count from those incubated businesses. 532 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,120 He provides mentorship through well uh 533 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,559 in line with that they've had a 534 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:57,840 commercial kitchen which is separate 535 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,760 from their culinary arts kitchen that 536 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,280 they use at the school for the 537 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,440 certification programs themselves. And 538 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,159 he's now at 60 clients. That's 6 clients 539 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:08,240 that are using that commercial kitchen. 540 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880 And he has requested of the CEO board 541 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280 and your consideration a contribution 542 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 towards what he expects to be an $80,000 543 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,159 expense in order to upsize that to 544 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:20,000 accommodate the increase in clientele 545 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 that he has. And then the last one is 546 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960 airport growth round three. Uh this last 547 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,520 fiscal year was round two and a nearly 548 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,919 equitable amount of money uh was set 549 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,159 aside with the idea of furthering Dr. 550 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:35,280 Jones's uh airport feasibility study 551 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,679 conducted a couple of years ago. So, 552 00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:39,679 round three's money would join round 553 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:41,440 two, which has been unspent from fiscal 554 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,280 year 26 in order to advance uh whatever 555 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320 the newly discussed airport sponsor 556 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,760 board and uh authority boards will 557 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,520 consider. So, with that in mind, 558 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,960 I have a couple of slides here I can go 559 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,760 back to if you'd like, but the CEO board 560 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,200 uh has to have a minimum of five 561 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,440 members. Uh you can have more and this 562 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,760 county traditionally has had majority of 563 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,840 the board constitutes a quorum, which is 564 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,600 good that right now I have a majority of 565 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,559 the board that's still in place. Um and 566 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,400 then you need to elect a chair and vice 567 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,159 chair or they need to elect a chair and 568 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:18,320 vice chair among themselves. And another 569 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,000 change to the administrative rules this 570 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,400 year seeks to take those terms from two 571 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,360 years to four years. The five minimum 572 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:29,120 are a representative for the county 573 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:30,880 uh which is what the previous elected 574 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,039 officials here on this body have served 575 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,039 uh in that capacity, a municipal 576 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,960 representative, someone from workforce 577 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,799 development, private sector 578 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:40,640 representative, and a public atlarge 579 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,360 representative. uh this county as well 580 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,480 as others that I help uh manage have 581 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,320 historically included additional seats 582 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,159 that represent industries that you would 583 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:53,679 like to see more of in our county. So 584 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:55,200 I've listed some of those that have been 585 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200 mentioned for this county here uh in the 586 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,760 past aerospace and defense advanced 587 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,120 manufacturing life or biosciences a and 588 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,760 value added food processing and arts and 589 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,720 culture. This has been the CEO board as 590 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,559 constituted this last year. I have a 591 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,280 very light highlight for those that are 592 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,360 now off the board either through 593 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,440 administrative rules or one member who 594 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,679 due to health concerns has asked to be 595 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:23,039 excused and and has effectively resigned 596 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,679 which leaves us with the uh chart that 597 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,520 you see in front of you there. That 598 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,440 gives us the institutional knowledge of 599 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Brian Carver who now becomes chair. He 600 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,919 represents your public at large member. 601 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:36,159 Uh he also happens to work for Jub 602 00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:38,880 Engineering. uh Kirk Jensen who is my 603 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840 equivalent for Logan City proper and 604 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Mark Alexander who is as I noted with 605 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Ridgerland Technical College a moment 606 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,919 ago he represents the workforce 607 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:51,360 development spot that you need. I have 608 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,600 suggested the terms of those three 609 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,400 individuals being amended to end at the 610 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,559 end of next calendar year which would 611 00:23:58,559 --> 00:23:59,919 give them about a year and a half left 612 00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:02,880 on a four-year term. And as state 613 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,960 statute requests, they want the 614 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919 four-year terms uh mixed up and juggled 615 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:10,799 so that you're not always losing 100%. 616 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,960 So that leaves us four spots with uh 617 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,960 myself and Elma Burgess, your grant 618 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,600 manager, uh rounding out some staff 619 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,919 exeicio positions that don't get to vote 620 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:23,200 on the board. Of the five minimum, that 621 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,880 would mean out of those four spots, you 622 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,480 need to pick someone to represent the 623 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,640 county and someone to represent private 624 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,279 sector. I've proposed two more private 625 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:32,799 sector representatives because that's 626 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,200 what you've had previously. 627 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,440 And in discussions since our last since 628 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,279 your last county council meeting and my 629 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:41,679 last being before you, uh several 630 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:45,600 members have proposed some names. I have 631 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,919 discussed uh at the direction of of uh 632 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:53,200 council members uh Keegan and Mark. I've 633 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,240 reached out to Mr. Wes Clark, Wendy 634 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,760 Hassan, 635 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,120 Jeff Cox, and Mike Presley. But there 636 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,880 are a whole slew of names of 637 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,880 individuals. And um 638 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,120 you just need to fill those spots for 639 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,600 those particular headings that are noted 640 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600 there. You could expand further if you 641 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,600 wanted. You could just choose the bare 642 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,360 minimum. The choice is really yours. But 643 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,440 you can see that for the four that are 644 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,120 vacant, I have proposed that they would 645 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,720 get the full uh three and a half year 646 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,880 uh spots to go out until the end of 647 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,120 December 2029. 648 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,880 I'm happy to discuss these individuals 649 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,559 that I've spoken with at further detail 650 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,799 if you'd like. Happy to take additional 651 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:36,480 recommendations on your part, whatever 652 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,720 you would like to proceed before we then 653 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,480 discuss the next element on the agenda 654 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600 item, which is the proposed contract. 655 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760 >> Okay. I I talked to Sean just before the 656 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,360 meeting and just to stay within our 657 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:52,240 appointing um process. I would like to 658 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 put those appointments off until the 659 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240 next meeting so that we can have a 660 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,760 resume of each one. We have a list 661 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,159 before the meeting starts and then that 662 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:02,320 gives another week or so if you have any 663 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,159 other names that you want to suggest to 664 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,799 Sean. um if you would get those to him 665 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,960 within the next just few days and then 666 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200 at our next meet before our next meeting 667 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,919 starts in our media packet, we'll have 668 00:26:13,919 --> 00:26:16,880 those names to to be able to look at and 669 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,919 discuss at that meeting so that we can 670 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,679 because it the council is the appointing 671 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:23,840 authority on this board. 672 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,240 >> Correct. 673 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 >> And um but I don't want to do that 674 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,240 without having those names before the 675 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,400 meeting if that's if that's okay with 676 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,039 the rest of you. 677 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:32,880 >> Would it be helpful to explain some of 678 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,360 the nominations and why for the ones 679 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,200 that we do have on the list now. Or do 680 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,000 you want to wait? 681 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840 >> Um I I don't know. I think we could wait 682 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,159 until next time when we have a full list 683 00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:43,919 and then we can talk about them and vote 684 00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:47,520 on them and um unless unless someone 685 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480 thinks of a better uh process or a 686 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,600 different process that you want to do, 687 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760 but I just feel like I wanted to have 688 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,440 names in advance of the meeting before 689 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000 we vote on them. 690 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,440 >> I I can question. 691 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,880 >> Yes, please support that. But also um we 692 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,880 did have quite a few conversations about 693 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760 the process and that was not brought up. 694 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760 Um just to make sure we were okay 695 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 timelinewise. Does that work? 696 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,919 >> I for the time being you see the graph 697 00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:16,000 in front of you a minimum of five and I 698 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,760 have three out of five. I have a quorum 699 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,600 if 100% of them show up. [clears throat] 700 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320 So yes, I'm good. I will need a letter 701 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,279 of attestation from the chair before the 702 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,360 September one deadline for fiscal year 703 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,480 27's application and I should be able to 704 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720 arrange that with Mr. Carver because the 705 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,559 proposals in front of you tonight as 706 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,880 they were before are one and the same as 707 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,279 they were in the last meeting. So it 708 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,679 would be to an attestation that this is 709 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:43,520 the recommendation that the board is 710 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080 constituted that they were consulted uh 711 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,520 on the application that would be 712 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,919 forthcoming by the September 1 deadline. 713 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:52,480 So that is possible. I just need 100% of 714 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,640 them, you know, to be engaged until 715 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,399 there's more members appointed. 716 00:27:58,399 --> 00:27:59,840 >> Yeah. I just we're just going through so 717 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,520 many different appointments at this at 718 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,520 this point in time. I think the process 719 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,360 we just need to stick to the processes. 720 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:06,799 >> Yeah. Like I said, I thought we were 721 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,360 asking those questions. So 722 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,440 >> I just never saw those names before. 723 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,919 >> Correct. 724 00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:13,039 >> In our media packet. 725 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,960 >> Yeah. I think I think to Mark's point 726 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,039 like we did discuss because I know in my 727 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:18,960 report a month ago I mentioned let's be 728 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,720 thinking about names and then last time 729 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,720 we said let's come up with some names 730 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,679 and so I think let's put our foot on the 731 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:26,880 gas and if we're going to come up with 732 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,240 names let's do it like yeah 733 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,000 >> in the next three days. 734 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,120 >> Let's make sure they're in the media 735 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,120 packet before the meeting starts. That's 736 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,360 >> and and I'll take care of that with my 737 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,840 staff and and Andrew. Uh Councilman 738 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Gunnel, you had a question. So I saw on 739 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,039 your list you had like the a value co-op 740 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,360 food side. I would just like to see that 741 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000 we have somebody from the a industry 742 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 whether it's farming or equipment or 743 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,000 something related into that area I think 744 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,159 would be an important area. 745 00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:56,240 >> Fantastic. I will say that in the list 746 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,000 that had been developed since the last 747 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 meeting um there were a couple of names 748 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520 that I could be specific with but again 749 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,279 I I think it's been noted tonight that 750 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,840 there may be a an additional window. I 751 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,679 love the shortened time frame and 752 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:11,279 welcome any of you to reach out and let 753 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,279 me know if you choose to speak with 754 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:14,799 somebody beforehand and just let them 755 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,120 know what the opportunity is or the 756 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,559 frequency of meetings, what the time 757 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,000 commitment would be or would like me to 758 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,640 join a call, happy to do so at your 759 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,559 pleasure and then that way I can make 760 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:25,520 sure [clears throat] I have that list 761 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760 vetted to get to Andrew in time to be in 762 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,520 your media packet and we can proceed 763 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,039 from there. 764 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:31,840 >> Perfect. 765 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,679 >> With with something that you said, Madam 766 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:35,279 Chair, you did say resumes. Is there 767 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,399 anything else you would like me to 768 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:38,000 collect from these individuals in 769 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,679 anticipation of the media packet? 770 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:43,520 >> Yeah, maybe their contact information. 771 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640 >> You bet. Okay. Any other questions 772 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080 related to the CEO board? Okay. Then 773 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,320 with that, you have in your media packet 774 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,679 this evening a draft proposal for 775 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,279 something else that's new to the 776 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,000 administrative rules this year, and that 777 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,029 is 778 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,600 a contract to formalize the agreement. 779 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,360 Um the [snorts] administrative rule 780 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,279 change this year is that any in-house 781 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,240 employees are contracted uh work being 782 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,840 done on your behalf of this Royal County 783 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,840 grant. And just to back up for the sake 784 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,360 of the audio record, anybody present 785 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840 tonight or to refamiliarize yourself, 786 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,600 you qualify for this rural county grant 787 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,720 or RCG because Cash County is designated 788 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 a rural county. Counties of the third 789 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,640 through sixth class are designated by 790 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,559 the state of Utah as rural and as such 791 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,159 the state legislature a number of years 792 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:35,440 ago sought to incentide 793 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,520 flexibility for rural counties to 794 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,279 perform economic development at the 795 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,440 local level differently than what those 796 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,039 legislators who had sponsored the 797 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,039 legislation which was Senator Scott 798 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,679 Sandal and Representative Carl Alrech 799 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,320 differently than say Ogden Provo. And so 800 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,480 what they conjured up and is in effect 801 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,279 for several years now, $200,000 [snorts] 802 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,760 from the state um legislature as an 803 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,399 appropriation administered by GOED and 804 00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:02,880 comes to you for your purview. And 805 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 that's where that CEO board comes into 806 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,559 play. You must have one. It must be 807 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,360 fully constituted. It must be uh 808 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,799 genuinely used to provide advice to you 809 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,520 on the best ROI or kind of activities 810 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,679 for economic development. That being 811 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:20,559 said, the state hereto for has not had a 812 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,760 formalized contract requirement for any 813 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,559 in-house employees. A number of counties 814 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,399 do that as you did for the first few 815 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:30,720 years that you had this program and 816 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,440 others also like you do currently 817 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,039 utilize someone like me through another 818 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,480 AOG or governmental quasi governmental 819 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,399 as well as third party private sector 820 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,640 economic development consultants. This 821 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,159 is what they've intended to memorialize 822 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:48,320 in the form of a contract and this is 823 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640 what is before you as a proposed 824 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000 contract. They admit they being goed 825 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,039 that this is a first draft or not this 826 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,720 being a first draft. this is their first 827 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840 go at it and they fully expect that 828 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,200 there will be some learning curve that 829 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,960 they'll see from all of us that submit 830 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 for fiscal year 27's 831 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,679 uh application process uh from those 832 00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:11,679 third party private sector consultants 833 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:14,559 to the in-house employees like DAG uses 834 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:15,840 some of this money to pay for their 835 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,760 in-house employee and because that 836 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,039 employee that performs economic 837 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,399 development for DAG does other duties as 838 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:25,200 you know tasks they have other port 839 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,640 parts of their general fund that pay for 840 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,360 that employee So, I've listed here a 841 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,480 number of activities that I've 842 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,240 historically done on behalf whether as 843 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000 an in-house employee as I was before 844 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,039 going over to Bragg or since that time 845 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,840 and um I stand ready to answer any 846 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,159 questions if you have them or seek to 847 00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:45,840 have your approval and proceed. 848 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Okay. Does anyone have any questions 849 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,519 about this contract? I have looked 850 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,000 through it and I know that the our legal 851 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,360 team has looked through it and so has 852 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,039 our executive. 853 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,630 Um, 854 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,880 anybody have any questions for Sean? 855 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,480 >> Do we need to take a formal vote then to 856 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,720 accept this contract? Okay. I would 857 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,519 accept a motion to accept this contract 858 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,559 on behalf of our rural opportunity 859 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,240 grant. 860 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,240 >> So moved. 861 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,799 >> Second. 862 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,399 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 863 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:18,960 approve this contract. Uh, is there any 864 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120 further discussion? 865 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120 All in favor say I. I. I. Any opposed? 866 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:25,679 Okay. 867 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:27,760 >> Thank you very much. Uh may I presume 868 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,279 that I'm automatically on the calendar 869 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,440 for two weeks from today? Excellent. 870 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,399 Thank you. 871 00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:34,320 >> Thanks. 872 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Okay, 873 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,279 >> Madam Chair, given the time. 874 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:37,919 >> Yes. 875 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:40,080 >> Um should we move to setting the public 876 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840 hearing and holding public hearings? 877 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,000 >> That's going to be okay. 878 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,120 >> Would you make a motion for that on 9A? 879 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760 >> Yes. Um, I move to set the public 880 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,799 hearing for August 25th, 2026 at or 881 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,440 about 5:30 to receive public comment and 882 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,519 hear candidate introductions regarding 883 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,279 vacancies on the Cash County Fire 884 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,679 Protection District Board of Trustees. 885 00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:04,480 >> Second. 886 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,760 >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded that 887 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,200 we set the public hearing for August 888 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520 25th to receive public comment and hear 889 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,679 candidate introductions for the County 890 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,200 Fire Protection District Board of 891 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,639 Trustees. Those in favor say I. I. Any 892 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:17,919 opposed? 893 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:19,280 >> Okay. 894 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,679 and then we will go ahead and hold 895 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,079 public hearings for the ordinances that 896 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:25,440 we have here. I'm going to turn some 897 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,960 time over to Matt Phillips to begin 898 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,669 that. And um 899 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,599 we have several public hearings to go 900 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:41,990 through tonight. 901 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,679 » What? 902 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:48,470 >> Oh, geotechnical reports. 903 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 for geotechnical reports. Okay. 904 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,240 So, that one's not Matt. Okay. Who Who 905 00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:03,510 is going to present on that one for the geotechnical reports? Brian. 906 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,720 » Good evening. Brian Abbott with 907 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,040 development services. Uh tonight we have 908 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,880 an ordinance amendment for sensitive 909 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440 areas uh potentially developable and 910 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,230 geological hazards section 17.18.050 911 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,599 B5. 912 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,920 Um so right now sensitive areas some of 913 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160 our non-developable areas are wetlands 914 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,040 steep slopes greater than 30% 915 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,359 natural waterways and open water 916 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:30,560 potentially developable developable 917 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,040 are moderate slopes between 20 and 30% 918 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,760 ridge lines flood planes important 919 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,800 habitat areas geologic hazards wildfire 920 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,359 hazards historic prehistoric and 921 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:43,680 cultural resources 922 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000 um of those potentially developable 923 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,079 sensitive areas as the moderate slopes 924 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,480 and geological hazards include 925 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,720 landslides, landslides, scarps, fault 926 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,599 lines and liquefaction potential. 927 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,000 Um the development developmental 928 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,839 requirements for that those potential 929 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:02,240 geologic hazards. Um they have to 930 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,560 provide a geotechnical report and that 931 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,240 must be prepared by a qualified 932 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,880 professional and meet certain criteria. 933 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,040 Right now our code exempts agricultural 934 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,960 buildings as defined by the state code 935 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,720 and structures that are less than 200 936 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,640 square feet. 937 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,079 We propose to amend that. Um that would 938 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:21,920 increase the exemption from a structure 939 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,440 less than 200 square feet to 2400 square 940 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640 ft for a onestory non-habitable 941 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,119 accessory structure. And there would be 942 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,280 no change to any of the agricultural 943 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000 exemptions that already exist. So the 944 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,359 code would look something like this 945 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:40,480 under section five of geologic hazards. 946 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,240 These requirements do not apply to the 947 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,000 following accessory structures that are 948 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,320 not meant for human occupancy, a single 949 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,920 story, and are 2400 square feet or less. 950 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Agricultural buildings not for human 951 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,280 occupancy as defined by state code as 952 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000 amended. Uh this came before planning 953 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,240 commission uh back in June and the 954 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,000 planning commission recommended approval 955 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,200 6 to zero. 956 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,760 >> Thank you. 957 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,280 >> Okay. Is there anyone here from the 958 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,280 public that would like to speak to this 959 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,200 um ordinance? 960 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,880 This is your time to speak up. 961 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,480 >> Okay. Someone want to make a motion. 962 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,920 >> Move to close the public hearing. 963 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,320 Second. 964 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,680 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 965 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,280 close the public hearing on ordinance 966 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,800 2026-33. 967 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,240 Those in favor say I. 968 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:26,880 >> I. Any 969 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,480 >> opposed? 970 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200 Okay. Thanks, Brian. All right. Now, we 971 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,800 can have Matt come up with our cog 972 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,950 projects. Sorry. 973 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,760 Matt Phillips, public works director. 974 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,839 Um, there is quite a few of these COG 975 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,240 public hearings. Um, I guess I would 976 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,520 recommend that for the record and just 977 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,119 for the ease of going through them if 978 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,520 it's okay if we opened and closed for 979 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,480 each one of them 980 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,960 >> separately. 981 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200 >> Yeah, we don't have to make a motion to 982 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,040 open public hearing, but we will make a 983 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,560 motion to close it at the end of each 984 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,200 one. So I I do believe the very first 985 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560 one on the list is 1,200 East 986 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000 um to for the sake of time. 987 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,800 This project has been taken off of the 988 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,359 COG applications this year. So I did 989 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,280 want to introduce this project in case 990 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,079 someone did come to provide public 991 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,040 comment on it. This project is between 992 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960 Hyde Park and North Logan in a little 993 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,760 section of county. Um, but this project 994 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,800 has been this project won't move forward 995 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,000 to COG applications this year. So, I 996 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000 don't think it's necessary to go into a 997 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,760 lot of depth on this project at this 998 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,119 time. 999 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,640 >> Okay. Is there anyone here from the 1000 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,240 public that came to speak about this 1001 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,599 specific project? 1002 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,079 >> Okay. Close the public hearing. 1003 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,440 >> Been moved and seconded that we close 1004 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,040 public hearing on Cog project 12200 East 1005 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,920 from 3100 North to 3,400 North. Those in 1006 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,040 favor say I. 1007 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,200 >> I. Any opposed? 1008 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,400 >> Okay. 1009 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,280 >> Next project on the list is Wolfpack Way 1010 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,270 project. So 1011 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960 Andrew brings up the slides for that 1012 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,069 one. I thought this would probably 1013 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,480 I thought it would be a good opportunity 1014 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,240 to at the start of all these public 1015 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,640 hearings to just kind of for the public 1016 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,760 and for the council and those here is to 1017 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,359 go over what the purpose of these public 1018 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:32,560 hearings are. And so as part of the COG 1019 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,920 rules, um, every project that has 1020 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,079 multi-jurisdictional, 1021 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,000 whether you know, you're doing a project 1022 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480 in North Logan and it involves Hide 1023 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,760 Park's rightway or the county's 1024 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,760 rightway, the COG rules state that those 1025 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,079 projects need to have a public hearing 1026 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,000 so that the citizens of each of those 1027 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,400 jurisdictions have an opportunity to 1028 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,680 voice um their their 1029 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680 opinions, whether they're support the 1030 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,119 project or they're against the project, 1031 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,800 to their local people instead of um at 1032 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,760 the council level. So, and then each one 1033 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,599 of these public hearings should address 1034 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,680 the general concept of the project, the 1035 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,280 estimate of the project, and the 1036 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,200 financial responsibilities of the 1037 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,839 jurisdictions of the project. So, um so 1038 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:19,920 go to the next one. So, the one that I'm 1039 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,200 going to present today and just give 1040 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,040 some background information is on the 1041 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,240 Wolf Pack Way project. 1042 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,960 So, this project is a continuation of 1043 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920 projects that's been going on for a long 1044 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,359 time that starts all the way in 1045 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:35,920 Providence, goes through Logan, goes 1046 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,480 through North Logan, 200 East, trans 1047 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,359 transitions to Wolfpack Way. Um, kind of 1048 00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:43,599 the area that the specific projects that 1049 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,359 we'll be applying for COG this year are 1050 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:47,920 kind of in that county portion between 1051 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,440 Smithfield and Hyde Park. 1052 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,079 Um, these applications will be broken 1053 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,240 into two phases. is a phase B and a 1054 00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:00,400 phase C. So on the screen I have phase B 1055 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,119 is the first phase in green. The second 1056 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:08,000 phase is pha phase C and below that the 1057 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,240 phase A was funded last year through 1058 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,160 COG. 1059 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,160 Um so that's kind of gives you a little more indication of where those 1060 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,079 projects are. Next slide. This is not 1061 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:23,040 broken out into phases, but this So now 1062 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,119 we're looking north is to the right of 1063 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,480 the screen. This is uh 1064 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400 engineering plans for what has been 1065 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,040 proposed for those projects. So at the 1066 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,800 end of phase A, you'll have some road 1067 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,119 improvements with a roundabout and phase 1068 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,119 B is going to end right about where that 1069 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,240 curve ends. And then from there into the 1070 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,960 Smithfield city limits, we would have 1071 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,280 phase C. 1072 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,520 Both of phases include a roundabout. 1073 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,200 One's a five-legged roundabout, the 1074 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,589 other one's a four-legged roundabout. 1075 00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,160 This is just a a nice aerial looking 1076 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040 from the Center Street in Hyde Park 1077 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,160 looking north. You can see part of phase 1078 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,760 A and where there's still dirt. So this 1079 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,560 project would pick up at the end of that 1080 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,839 where you can see the active 1081 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:19,440 construction projects going. Next one. 1082 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,359 This is at the end of phase A looking 1083 00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:24,160 north. So uh this phase would start out 1084 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,680 where you see the little bit of the dirt 1085 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,520 road and then it would that's this is 1086 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520 where it would make the S turn to 1087 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,040 connect to the road on the right side of 1088 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,480 the screen. Next one. This is looking at 1089 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,040 the intersection of 4400 looking north 1090 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,400 towards Sky View there in the 1091 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,240 background. Um, that's where the other 1092 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:43,599 roundabout would be located and that 1093 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,400 would be kind of the last section of 1094 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,960 this 200 East Wolfpack way to get us to 1095 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960 600 South in Smithfield and basically 1096 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,440 kind of complete the project. I was just 1097 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,880 going to add this this particular one 1098 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680 represents the culmination of what 15 1099 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,480 years of at least our way. 1100 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,960 >> And our our desire is is to make this 1101 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,760 one the highest priority we can and try 1102 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,119 and get it done uh using our fixed 1103 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,200 guideway funding which we're going to 1104 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,240 talk about later. But that that 1105 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,359 go ahead. So, as part of this project, 1106 00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:24,960 there's two cross-sections up there. 1107 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,200 One, the top cross-section is what is 1108 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,800 proposed 1109 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,400 um as part of the project because of 1110 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,160 there's no development on a lot of that 1111 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960 portion. So, the curb gutter that you 1112 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,640 see in the bottom section would come 1113 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,800 later as part of development. So, in the 1114 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,839 top one, that's a 40 foot road section. 1115 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:46,720 The bottom one's 60 foot. So those 1116 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,720 developers would be responsible to add 1117 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,280 some of that asphalt curb and gutter and 1118 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,760 a sidewalk on the one side. But until 1119 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,000 that happened, we'd provide, you know, 1120 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319 some nice travel lanes and a a walking 1121 00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:02,000 path on one side to to make that work 1122 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,960 with everyone. 1123 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,319 >> Just a little bit more about the 1124 00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:08,800 project. Um, again, we're applying to 1125 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,359 the COG for the construction funding. 1126 00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:13,520 There is other options to apply for COG 1127 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,240 for rightway purchase. Engineering has 1128 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,079 been funded by the CMO through a 1129 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,800 different grant. Um there's still 1130 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,560 400,000 left in that CMPO money for some 1131 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,079 of the some rightaway acquisition and if 1132 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,680 we're successful in the funding that 1133 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,800 would start in 2028. 1134 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,640 As far as cost and responsibility, Pike 1135 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,680 Park will submit the application. the 1136 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,520 county would would be a sponsor of that. 1137 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,440 So, as part of that, the county the 1138 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,720 council through George and I will submit 1139 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,960 a letter of support to Hyde Park so that 1140 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200 they can apply for that project with our 1141 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,720 support. 1142 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,319 Um 1143 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,880 the there'll be two applications, one 1144 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,839 Wolfpackway phase B, one Wolfpack Way 1145 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:04,400 Phase C. So the cost breakdown for these 1146 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,119 phases, phase B is 5,850,000 1147 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,280 estimate and phase C is 5,350,000 1148 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000 as as an estimate with rightaway costs 1149 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,839 and construction management included in 1150 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:19,920 there. 1151 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,800 the way it sits now the 1152 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,319 phase B if you look at which parts in 1153 00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:28,640 the county and which parts in the cities 1154 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,440 you would have cash county is about 82% 1155 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,920 of that cost would be in the county for 1156 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,200 um so about 4,800 and our match amount 1157 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,960 would be 385 if you look at that once 1158 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,119 it's all annexed in in the future 1159 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,119 basically that's there's not going to be 1160 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:48,480 any in the county and there wouldn't be 1161 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,880 any match amount from from the county as 1162 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:56,240 that annex is in. So next one similar to 1163 00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:00,400 phase C right now the county's 1164 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520 um 100% of that so that match amount of 1165 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,599 430 would be um for the county if when 1166 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,920 those annexed in in the future that 1167 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,280 there wouldn't be anything in the county 1168 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,960 and we wouldn't have any required match 1169 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,800 for that. So, just kind of giving you 1170 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,079 guys an idea as this progresses kind of 1171 00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:21,040 the min and max of what the the county 1172 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,750 would be required to match. 1173 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,560 » One more. That's all I have for this 1174 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200 presentation. So, if there any questions 1175 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,880 from the council or any clarification 1176 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,670 that I need, we'll let the public. 1177 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,920 » Okay. This is a public hearing. Is there 1178 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,359 anyone here from the public that would 1179 00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,520 like to speak about this project, the 1180 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,400 Wolfpack Way from 400 North to 4700 1181 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,800 North? 1182 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,960 >> Move to close the public hearing. 1183 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,839 >> Okay, 1184 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:52,240 >> second. 1185 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,440 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 1186 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,040 close public hearing. Those in favor say 1187 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,760 I. 1188 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,079 >> I. 1189 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:57,760 >> Any opposed? [clears throat] 1190 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,240 Okay, 1191 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,040 >> let's go to the next one. Matt, 1192 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,720 >> Madam Chair, for the next ones, we've 1193 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:07,040 asked the cities that are applying for 1194 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680 those to come and present. So, Which 1195 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,359 one's the next one? 1196 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:14,240 >> It's the 600 South from 6 East to 10th 1197 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:22,710 East. 1198 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,040 » Good evening. I'm Craig Rasmmanson with 1199 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,280 Forsrren Associates, the contract city 1200 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,880 engineer for River Heights City. And I 1201 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,960 don't have quite the same presentation 1202 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,079 as as u as the Wolfpack Way project. 1203 00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:39,040 This is a little bit more low-key. Um 1204 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,160 and uh could we go to the do you have 1205 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,480 the um 1206 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,000 uh the the project view address that one 1207 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,359 first and just uh 1208 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:53,599 >> that's all right. Thanks. So this 1209 00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,800 project is um the county remembers maybe 1210 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,880 last year uh similar project same 1211 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,400 project we presented to to Cog last year 1212 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,000 but um um we did not have the public 1213 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,839 hearing with Cash County. um the very 1214 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:11,920 easterly segment of this project which 1215 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,200 is 600 south in River Heights City uh 1216 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,440 from the River Heights Elementary School 1217 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,960 approximately 770 east over to 10th east 1218 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,920 that eastern segment of the road. um 1219 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:33,119 looking at uh pavement widening um and now adding in intersection 1220 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,800 improvements at 10th East which was um 1221 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,280 left out because 10th East is in the 1222 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,240 county jurisdiction and um we didn't 1223 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,079 have a public hearing on that last year 1224 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:48,400 and so that easterly segment um 1225 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,760 we couldn't do that because it was 1226 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,359 multi-jurisdictional. So, we're here 1227 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:54,559 today to um have the public hearing uh 1228 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,960 to get the county that on record with 1229 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,200 the county and hopefully be able to be 1230 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,359 in a better position to move forward 1231 00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:04,960 with the 600 South widening project, 1232 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,559 including the intersection at 10th East. 1233 00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,599 And um costs haven't changed too much 1234 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,480 from last year um other than just uh 1235 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,520 some the work in the county at the 1236 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,400 intersection really is limited to um 1237 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,119 correcting some some curb and gutter uh 1238 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:24,880 that was installed as part of some 1239 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,119 development work that didn't account for 1240 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,640 widening the road and drainage structure 1241 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,160 relocation 1242 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440 as well as just asphalt pavement. Um 1243 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,480 we're not asking for funding from the 1244 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,520 county although we would accept it and 1245 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,559 uh and uh the project budget is with 1246 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,160 contingencies approximately $750,000. 1247 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,599 Uh River Heights City's match on that um 1248 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,760 including the match as well as 1249 00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:00,079 ineligible COG um work is about $82,000 1250 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,559 for that. So 1251 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:04,880 >> anybody questions? I don't I'll just 1252 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,119 explain the real briefly the you know 1253 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,760 the improvements. Um again widening out 1254 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,800 the road on the south side. Um the north 1255 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,720 side of the road that that was a one. 1256 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,040 Thank you. Uh the north side of the road 1257 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520 has been developed through development 1258 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,839 growth in in River Heights City. Um 1259 00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:26,000 the south side is in a different 1260 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,800 jurisdiction in Providence and was not 1261 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,559 uh improved with development. Providence 1262 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:35,200 couldn't require outside jurisdiction 1263 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,839 improvements. Um, unfortunately, it 1264 00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:39,440 didn't happen. So, we're trying to get 1265 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,520 that road widened out. Uh, it's a 1266 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,000 regional, I guess I would say it's a 1267 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,040 multi-jurisdictional collector road um 1268 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,040 for traffic from Providence through 1269 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,400 River Heights coming on into Logan. Um, 1270 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,000 you know, CMPO has questions on whether 1271 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,760 that constitutes regional. I would say 1272 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,040 it's probably more aptly named 1273 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,680 multi-jurisdictional, but for people in 1274 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,559 that vicinity, it's it's an important uh 1275 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,760 section of road that um certainly is uh 1276 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,640 in need of some improvements for safety. 1277 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,880 Uh the project will add sidewalk on the 1278 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,440 south side of the of the of the road as 1279 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,960 well. Um a lot of pedestrian traffic and 1280 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,359 increasing amount of bike traffic there 1281 00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:24,240 as well. 1282 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,400 Um the westerly end of this segment 1283 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,720 which is just off of the left side of 1284 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,680 the sheet um is River Heights Elementary 1285 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,470 School. So 1286 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,160 there any questions about that? 1287 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,880 >> Anybody have any questions? 1288 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,520 Public hearing. 1289 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,119 >> Thank you. Okay. This is a public 1290 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:46,480 hearing. If there's anyone here from the 1291 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,400 public that would like to speak about 1292 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,400 this project in River Heights, this 1293 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,640 would be your time to address us. 1294 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,950 Yes, please come forward. 1295 00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,920 » Yeah, you'll have to come to the 1296 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,920 microphone. Tell us your name, please. 1297 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:12,710 And 1298 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:14,800 in my former life, I was a school bus 1299 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,119 driver and I drove from River Heights 1300 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,760 Elementary. Often I would go east 1301 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,319 because 1302 00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:21,599 >> Can you tell us your name, please, sir? 1303 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:21,760 Oh, 1304 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,520 >> I'm sorry. Brent Smith. 1305 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,400 >> Okay. Thank you. 1306 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,960 >> And often I would go east because of the 1307 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,359 conflict of traffic going west in that 1308 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:30,800 intersection just west of the 1309 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,400 elementary. 1310 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,800 There are so many children that walk on 1311 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,839 both sides of that street. it. And 1312 00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:41,520 during when school kids are out, it is 1313 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,559 very concerning to go east with kids 1314 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,359 because you can tell them to walk on the 1315 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:50,559 sidewalk, but they like it's you have to 1316 00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:52,480 cross the street to do that and they 1317 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,119 would sooner stay on the south side. It 1318 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:57,760 is very necessary that this project be 1319 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,359 done with a sidewalk for the children of 1320 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:04,160 the River Heights Elementary School. 1321 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,319 >> Thank you. Is there anyone else that 1322 00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,000 would like to speak to this project? 1323 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,920 >> Move to close the public hearing. 1324 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,480 >> Second. 1325 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,920 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 1326 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,920 close public hearing. Those in favor say 1327 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,480 I. 1328 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,119 >> I. I. 1329 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:18,880 >> Any opposed? 1330 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,640 >> Okay. And I just want to clarify, we are 1331 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,240 not voting on these projects tonight. 1332 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:23,760 This is just part of the process. We 1333 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,520 have to attest that a public hearing was 1334 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,440 held. We won't be discussing them or 1335 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,119 voting on them tonight. From here, they 1336 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,119 go back to the there's a process where 1337 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:32,720 they go through COG. So, I just wanted 1338 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,880 to clarify that for the public. 1339 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440 Okay, we'll go ahead with 1340 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,880 to the 200 West in Providence. 1341 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,760 >> Is our live stream up? Got an alert 1342 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,680 saying 1343 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:54,870 >> someone put the stream up. 1344 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,559 » Good evening, council. My name is Josh 1345 00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,760 Nelson. Um, I'm I work for Sunrise 1346 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520 Engineering. We're the contracted city 1347 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,160 engineer for Providence City. Um I'll 1348 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,000 also introduce Ryan Snow who's here with 1349 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,640 us um this evening uh city manager for 1350 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,599 Providence City. So um this presentation 1351 00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,559 I have is the next two items on the 1352 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,200 agenda. So it is both uh 300 South and 1353 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,079 the 200 West project. Um so I'll discuss 1354 00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:21,520 both of them and then I guess we can do 1355 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,280 public hearing separately but kind of a 1356 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,440 two for one presentation here. Okay. 1357 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,119 >> So um both projects 200 West and 300 1358 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,040 South in Providence. Um, so I'll discuss 1359 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,359 the 300 South project first. Um, it's a 1360 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:38,240 section of road widening to complete a 1361 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,559 section of road on 300 South. Um, so 1362 00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,160 there are sidewalks on both sides of the 1363 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,000 road, curb gutter, a [snorts] complete 1364 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,480 roadway section as one of the the major 1365 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,319 collectors into Providence City from SR 1366 00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:53,040 165. Um, so safety improvements, 1367 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,559 enhancing, getting the correct width of 1368 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,040 the road, also adding in bike lanes for 1369 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,000 active transportation purposes and uh, 1370 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,599 sidewalks. 1371 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:04,800 200 west project is from first north in 1372 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,920 Providence um which is about 1,200 south 1373 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,880 um down to 500 south in Providence. So 1374 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,303 six blocks of roadway reconstruction. Um 1375 00:55:16,303 --> 00:55:17,520 [clears throat] this one's involved with 1376 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,079 the county because 200 West is a county 1377 00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:23,520 road. Um this county road is is a major 1378 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,440 road through these communities. Uh 1379 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,520 there's I believe five elementary 1380 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,713 schools within um a block of this 1381 00:55:30,713 --> 00:55:31,839 [clears throat] road. So lots of 1382 00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:34,400 traffic. It's a major road um for 1383 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,720 Providence and River Heights um down to 1384 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:41,520 the the high school um ridge line. Uh 1385 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,480 existing road conditions are are poor. 1386 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,800 Um there is existing curb on the east 1387 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,160 side of the road and the plan would be 1388 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,480 to widen the road and build a sidewalk 1389 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,079 curb and gutter along the west side of 1390 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,480 the road as well as a roundabout at the 1391 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,640 intersection of 300 South which is a 1392 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,720 pretty ugly offset intersection so to 1393 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,119 fix traffic movement through there. So 1394 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,559 that's the two project locations. 1395 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:08,160 Next slide. So project need um kind of 1396 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,520 discussed a little bit on the previous 1397 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,280 side for safety improvements as well as 1398 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,920 deteriorating road um bad aligned poorly 1399 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,200 aligned intersections. This is the CMO 1400 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,079 countywide plan transportation master 1401 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:21,839 plan. Um it's a little difficult to see, 1402 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:24,720 but 200 West is a phase one project 1403 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,720 planned to [snorts] be done here um 1404 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,599 according to the plan within the next um 1405 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:33,839 between 2032 and then um the 300 South 1406 00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:37,839 project is a phase two project. 1407 00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:41,040 Next slide. So planned improvements um 1408 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,520 both are major collectors. 1409 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,880 Um for 300 South it's an 80 foot ride 1410 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,480 ofway. Um and on 200 West it's a major 1411 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,799 collector as well. Um the existing 1412 00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:56,160 rightway varies um from 99 ft down to 1413 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,200 around 80 ft um through kind of where 1414 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,760 these old city surveys lined up with old 1415 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,920 farm surveys. So little differing 1416 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,599 through there, but this is generally the 1417 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,920 planned cross-section for both projects. 1418 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,000 Um, so through lane, spike lanes, some 1419 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,280 parking on the side, as well as 1420 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,000 sidewalks for um some awesome active 1421 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,440 transportation. And this cross-section 1422 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,040 is from the Providence City uh 1423 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,799 Providence City's transportation master 1424 00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:21,829 plan. 1425 00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:24,480 Um so project cost. Um the one I have on 1426 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,160 here um today is for 200 West. Um it 1427 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,160 includes construction right away um 1428 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,680 construction management, engineering, 1429 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,520 design um as well as some contingency 1430 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,200 money. We're anticipating just over $5 1431 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,480 million for this project. And um what 1432 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,880 the city is asking is to split what 1433 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,720 would be the match on this COG 1434 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,319 application for funding. Um $200,000 1435 00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:48,880 from Providence, $215,000 1436 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,400 um estimated at this point from 1437 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,000 Providence City and $215,000 from Cash 1438 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200 County. Um the other project um 300 1439 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,079 South um the city is not um anticipating 1440 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,160 on asking for any contribution from the 1441 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,040 county on that little spot improvement 1442 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,789 there. 1443 00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:12,720 So, yeah, the spot improvement max for 1444 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,960 the project from uh the COG is $400,000. 1445 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,640 So, 1446 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,960 and then our schedule um following kind 1447 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,599 of the COG timeline. Um we're working on 1448 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,160 design over the next year um with plans 1449 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,799 for construction in 2028. 1450 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:32,720 It's kind of the general timeline there. 1451 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,960 Any questions? 1452 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,640 >> Any questions? I actually had a question 1453 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,000 on the 1454 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,079 >> sometimes you see the bike lanes on the 1455 00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:42,079 very outside so they're sort of 1456 00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:46,400 protected by the parked cars. Is that 1457 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,559 >> I see in this one the parked cars are at 1458 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,400 the very edge and the bike lanes 1459 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,920 positioned between the parked cars and 1460 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,280 the traffic. Is that I just was curious 1461 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,599 how come it was designed like that. 1462 00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:58,799 >> Protect the cars. 1463 00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:00,799 >> Um [laughter] 1464 00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:02,880 someone please think of the cars. 1465 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,440 >> Bikes could hit all the mayors. Um I I 1466 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,200 wasn't involved in the creation of the 1467 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,040 transportation master plan for Prev 1468 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,319 City. Um but um what I would say is a 1469 00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:14,640 lot of times when the bike lanes are on 1470 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,040 the uh the curb, cars park in the bike 1471 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,359 lanes and then there's not room for the 1472 00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:21,760 bikes to bike anymore um because it gets 1473 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,839 taken up by the cars. So I'm assuming 1474 00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:25,200 that was the thought process there. 1475 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,359 Gotcha. 1476 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:31,200 >> Got a question on the 300 South one. Uh 1477 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,880 has there been development occur on 1478 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880 either side of that road? 1479 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,720 >> There's a house on both sides. 1480 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,599 Residential 1481 00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:38,480 >> just residential. 1482 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,240 house on each side. 1483 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,760 >> No commercial or anything like that in 1484 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,400 that area? 1485 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,359 >> At this point, 1486 00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,440 >> were they recent homes? 1487 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:45,760 >> No, 1488 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,200 >> they're older. Okay. 1489 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,559 >> So that's the reason there hasn't been 1490 00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,240 sidewalks and correct. Okay. 1491 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,160 >> Yep. the on the south side it's one of 1492 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,160 those islands where the parcel's still 1493 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,839 in the county and on the north side yeah 1494 00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:58,559 it's a single home with a bunch of large 1495 00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:00,160 agricultural field around them but 1496 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,319 nothing's been developed besides the 1497 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:02,960 >> what's the 1498 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,720 >> the other one what's the reason for the 1499 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:11,430 215,000 cash county match 1500 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,200 » it currently is a county road so the 1501 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,640 city's willing to [clears throat] come 1502 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,640 in and match uh half half with the 1503 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,040 county um but It's currently a county 1504 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,000 road. 1505 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,040 >> Currently, 1506 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,440 >> yes, 1507 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,040 >> currently county road. So, we're just 1508 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,319 asking for for both sides to come 1509 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:30,480 together. So, 1510 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,880 >> I have a question about the 300 South. 1511 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440 Um why is it just that one section? Is 1512 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,040 it already developed on either side of 1513 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:37,680 that? 1514 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,680 >> Correct. So, that's just 1515 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,599 >> there's kind of a those older homes 1516 01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,839 haven't no development has occurred and 1517 01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:45,599 they just need to finish that. There's 1518 01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:46,960 been development to the east and west 1519 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,480 that have built out the road and there's 1520 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,400 just these two older homes that haven't 1521 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,160 been 1522 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,440 >> developed at this point. So there's a gap in the roadway. So there's 1523 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,359 sidewalk on either side of this location 1524 01:00:57,359 --> 01:00:58,960 and curb and gutter but through this 1525 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,079 area there's not. 1526 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,160 >> Thanks for the clarification there. 1527 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,520 >> Thank you. 1528 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,839 >> Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone here 1529 01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:07,119 from the public that would like to speak 1530 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:11,270 to this? Please approach. 1531 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,799 Make sure you let us know what your name 1532 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:18,789 is, please. 1533 01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:22,559 Hi, my name is Joe Cotrol. Um, I 1534 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,720 >> Mr. Cockro, before I we need to do a 1535 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,079 public hearing on each of these 1536 01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,000 separately. So, we're going to we're 1537 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,240 going to do a public hearing on the 200 1538 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,319 West project first before we talk about 1539 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:34,000 the 300 South. Is that the one you wish 1540 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,559 to address? 1541 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,240 >> I actually want to address both. 1542 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,440 >> Okay. 1543 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,520 >> Yeah. 1544 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,440 >> Stand up and wait. 1545 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,040 >> Tell me, make sure I'm doing this right, 1546 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,839 >> De. So, he'd need to make his public his 1547 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:48,880 comment on the the one we're in the 1548 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,319 hearing and then stand up again and make 1549 01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:53,440 public comment on the next one 1550 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,400 >> we we just want to make sure 1551 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,319 everything's done properly so that this 1552 01:01:56,319 --> 01:01:57,119 application 1553 01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:57,599 >> first. 1554 01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,520 >> No, we're going to do the 200 West 1555 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,480 first. 1556 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:00,720 >> Okay. 1557 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,440 >> Um I'm I'm here speaking on behalf of 1558 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,599 the elementary schools. Um I'm a 1559 01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:09,280 principal at Spring Creek Elementary. We 1560 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,119 are making the transition from Spring 1561 01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:14,559 Creek Middle School to elementary. And 1562 01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:17,200 both of these roads, especially 200 1563 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,799 West, has a direct impact on our on mine 1564 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:23,839 and Providence Elementary's um safe 1565 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:27,520 walking route. And along that that road, 1566 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,040 there's multiple spots without curb and 1567 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,359 without sidewalk that this would have a 1568 01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:34,960 direct impact on those families and 1569 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,520 ensuring that students make it safely to 1570 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,520 school. Um, with the transition to to 1571 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,960 Spring Creek, especially being an 1572 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,160 elementary school, we have students as 1573 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,079 young as five years old using these 1574 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:50,799 roads and they are busy and I think this 1575 01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:52,480 is a great opportunity to ensure the 1576 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,640 safety of students making it to those 1577 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,720 schools. So, thank you. 1578 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,480 >> Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else 1579 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,319 that's here to speak about the 200 West 1580 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:09,910 project? 1581 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,079 Good evening, council. Um my name is 1582 01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:13,920 Janelle Cely. I'm on the Providence City 1583 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,720 Council. Um I'm just here to express our 1584 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,799 support for this project um the 200 West 1585 01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:24,000 400 East County Grid Corridor um and 300 1586 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,920 South roundabout. 1587 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,839 This is a county road. It's county road 1588 01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:29,760 238 and it runs through our 1589 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,240 municipality. It affects it I would say 1590 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,079 in the language that River Heights used. 1591 01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:36,400 This is definitely multi-jurisdictional 1592 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,960 and regional corridor in the CMO. It 1593 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,400 connects from Logan through River 1594 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,720 Heights, Providence down to Millville 1595 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,880 and then it and empties out and connects 1596 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,160 into Nibi City. Um 1597 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,720 I think you know especially as we look 1598 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,520 in Cash County, we really do need these 1599 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,000 corridors to be maintained well. Um 1600 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,559 where we don't have freeways [snorts] 1601 01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:00,720 and we have our limited highway system. 1602 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,640 As we continue to grow, these corridors 1603 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,480 are are critical. Um, this is an 1604 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,960 important regional corridor and the city 1605 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,520 is open to considering acceptance of 1606 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,440 this road from the county with these 1607 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,440 improvements being made. Bringing this 1608 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,520 road up to the city standard, adding 1609 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,680 sidewalk, curb, and gutter. That makes 1610 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,400 it um a reasonable consideration for 1611 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,520 Providence City to take this roadway on. 1612 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,720 Um, these improvements are not optional. 1613 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,240 They're essential for the safety, 1614 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,000 functionality, and long-term stewardship 1615 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,760 of the area. Um, and and it's really 1616 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,359 important that we invest in this 1617 01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:39,200 corridor. The county has been collecting 1618 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,480 funds for the maintenance of this road 1619 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,960 for decades and so it feels very 1620 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,520 appropriate and warranted to fund this 1621 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,480 project and to bring this road up to 1622 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,680 standard and to provide the regional 1623 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,319 mobility and public safety that um our 1624 01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:57,920 municipality and our board 1625 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,240 municipalities need. So, I hope you will 1626 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,240 consider um matching the um splitting 1627 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,240 the match with us since this is a county 1628 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,319 road and funding this project. Thank 1629 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:08,960 you. 1630 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:19,430 >> Thank you. 1631 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,319 » Good evening. My name is Jeff Kek. Um I 1632 01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:23,520 am the principal at Providence 1633 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,839 Elementary. Also here to voice my 1634 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:29,440 support for uh this project. Um with 1635 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,160 recent boundary changes uh in Cash 1636 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,839 County School District, we've taken on 1637 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,799 several well quite a few families uh 1638 01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:40,480 from the west side of Providence. Um 1639 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,880 there is no clear safe way for those 1640 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,559 students to walk um and cross 200 West 1641 01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:49,599 at this time. Um 1642 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:51,280 the ideal would be to get them across 1643 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,480 the road, I'm told, to to then walk down 1644 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,880 the east side, which has sidewalk. Um, 1645 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,799 but there's no on the on the south end 1646 01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:00,799 of Providence, there isn't a safe way to 1647 01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:05,680 get them across the road. Um, with 1648 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,640 a potential crosswalk further north up 1649 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,720 by Center Street in Providence, we would 1650 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,520 like that west side to have sidewalk for 1651 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640 these kids to walk down um safely to get 1652 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,160 to that crosswalk to get to Providence 1653 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,720 Elementary. Um, so again, I would also 1654 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,200 encourage you to uh consider strongly 1655 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,799 helping out with this project for the 1656 01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:26,559 safety of the kids. I am here to 1657 01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,240 represent many families that have 1658 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,960 reached out to me who are who are not uh 1659 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,760 um satisfied or happy with um the 1660 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,359 options that they have at this point for 1661 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:38,079 their students to walk to school. Um but 1662 01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:39,520 appreciate your consideration. Thank 1663 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,160 you. 1664 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,000 >> Thank you. 1665 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,240 Is anyone else that is here to speak on 1666 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,400 the 200 West Road project? 1667 01:06:48,400 --> 01:07:01,589 Please. 1668 01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:03,599 » Well, my name hasn't changed. I'm still 1669 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,799 Brent Spess. So, I'd like to address 200 1670 01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:09,280 West. I also drove my school bus down 1671 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,400 200 West because uh students were 1672 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,319 transported to River Heights and we came 1673 01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:17,520 over and come went down 200 West to the 1674 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,319 south. And again, kids coming down from 1675 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:23,119 the elementary school in Providence when 1676 01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,640 they got to 200 West became confused. 1677 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,400 How do we cross? and they stood there 1678 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,760 and the traffic school bus drivers knew 1679 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,200 what to do but the traffic didn't always 1680 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,880 know what to do and the students were 1681 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,440 there and then when they did stop then 1682 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,160 you'd see a herd of kids start running 1683 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,000 to get through the intersection while 1684 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,280 the cars were stopped. It needs to have 1685 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,240 more attention to it as these gentlemen 1686 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,400 here have spoken regarding these 1687 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,480 elementary kids. that needs to be more 1688 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,680 definitive so that they are not confused 1689 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,319 and they know what to do. Thank you. 1690 01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:04,799 >> Thank you. 1691 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,319 >> Anyone else from the public that would 1692 01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:09,599 like to speak to this project? 1693 01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:11,359 >> Move to close public hearing. 1694 01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:12,240 >> Second. It's 1695 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,760 >> been moved and seconded that we close 1696 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,319 public hearing. Those in favor say I. I. 1697 01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:18,799 Any opposed? Okay. We'll now open the 1698 01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:23,120 public hearing on the 300 South project. 1699 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,679 there's anyone that'll please 1700 01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:27,359 Mr. Catrell. 1701 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:31,199 >> Thank you again. Um I will just note um 1702 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,400 we we share students that so Spring 1703 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,000 Creek Elementary is a dual language 1704 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960 immersion magnet school. So we have 1705 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,600 students coming from Providence to 1706 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,679 Spring Creek that go along 300 South. 1707 01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:48,239 And as Mr. Principal Kek alluded or 1708 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,279 talked about, we are at this time 1709 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:55,120 requiring that they cross 200 West to 1710 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,400 access sidewalk along the east side and 1711 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,759 then cross again at Center Street 1712 01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:05,520 because we don't have um we don't have 1713 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,480 sidewalk along the the west side. So 1714 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,920 this it becomes a major issue once again 1715 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,319 with confusing children figuring out how 1716 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,239 to get how to access. So, I um thank you 1717 01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:21,359 for your consideration. We obviously are 1718 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:25,440 in strong support of of this and for the 1719 01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,279 safety of students and and speaking on 1720 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:28,960 behalf of Cash County School District as 1721 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,319 well. We've written letters about this u 1722 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,560 these issues as well. Thank you. 1723 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,799 >> Thank you. Is there anyone else from the 1724 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:38,080 public that would like to speak about 1725 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,080 the 300 South project? 1726 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,759 >> Move to close the public hearing. 1727 01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:45,199 Second. It's been moved and seconded 1728 01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:46,640 that we close public hearing. Those in 1729 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,159 favor say I. 1730 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:49,520 >> Any opposed? 1731 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,759 >> Okay. The last one we have is the 1200 1732 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:54,400 East North End project. Who's here to 1733 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:03,350 speak about that one? Matt. 1734 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,400 » Meet me again. 1735 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,080 >> Okay. 1736 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,520 >> And state your name again, please. 1737 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,520 >> Josh Nelson with Sunrise Engineering um 1738 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:39,669 for the 1200 East North End project. 1739 01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:43,669 That's it. 1740 01:10:43,679 --> 01:11:00,159 That's 1741 01:11:00,169 --> 01:11:18,310 [clears throat] 1742 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,800 This one's not in our packet. 1743 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,760 >> It's right here. 1744 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,080 >> Where 1745 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:29,120 should be 9 B7? Mine goes from 9 B5. 1746 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,590 >> It 1747 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,239 B7. 1748 01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:38,870 >> I don't have a 9 B7. 1749 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,630 » B2. 1750 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,640 That's the one we've put on hold. 1751 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,840 >> That's the one that got put on hold. 1752 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,280 >> Oh, this is it. 1753 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,199 >> That's the That's the north one. 1754 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:50,960 >> That's the north one. 1755 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,280 >> Oh, 1200 East. 1756 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,679 >> Further north. 1757 01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:58,560 >> North end. I don't know. 1758 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,480 >> Sorry. 1759 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,159 >> Is it the same one stated twice? 1760 01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:03,679 >> So, it's not in here then, right? 1761 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:05,840 >> No. Five. We end at five. 1762 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,199 This one's not our packet. Correct. 1763 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,679 >> B2. 1764 01:12:11,679 --> 01:12:13,280 >> That's your first time. 1765 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,480 >> I thought that was the one they said we 1766 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:15,120 were going to 1767 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,480 >> say that one was confused with 1768 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,640 the other, 1200. 1769 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,679 >> Okay. So, the the one that's 9B number 1770 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:25,199 seven is the one that is going to be 1771 01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:28,400 taken off. 1772 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,360 >> 9B number two. 1773 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,199 >> This one we're going to talk about now. 1774 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:35,840 Uh that was accidentally listed under 9. 1775 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,520 The presentation that's correct is 1776 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,679 accidentally listed under the incorrect. 1777 01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:40,960 >> Yeah. In the packet 1778 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,080 >> title in the in the packet 1779 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,040 for [clears throat] 1780 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,600 >> there's there's two 12 east projects 1781 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,199 which is probably part of the concern on 1782 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,280 each side of Hide Park. So anyway, 1783 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,880 >> it's what we get for not naming our 1784 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,960 streets cute names, you know, 1785 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,280 >> and and part of the parenthesis is it's 1786 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,040 12 east in the county, a th000 east in 1787 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,880 Smithfield, and it's 700 East in Hide 1788 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,560 Park. 1789 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,719 Not to make it more confusing. 1790 01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:06,080 >> We should probably come up with another 1791 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,400 name with it so we get four. But uh Josh 1792 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,239 Nelson with Sunrise Engineering. I'm 1793 01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:12,239 here on behalf of Smithfield City. We 1794 01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:14,080 are the design engineer, a contracted 1795 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,520 design engineer for this specific 1796 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,400 project. Um so the objective of this 1797 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,800 project is to connect 1000 East with in 1798 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,719 Smithfield with 700 East in Hyde Park, 1799 01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:25,120 which is 12 east through the county. Um 1800 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,040 there's very few roads that connect uh 1801 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,280 through Smithfield and Hyde Park. Um, 1802 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,040 and part of this goal is to help um, 1803 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,800 alleviate traffic off of Highway 89 or 1804 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,239 91 um, to prevent con congestion. So, 1805 01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,120 it's a phase 2 COG or COG CMPO project 1806 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,280 priority. Um, it's also identified in 1807 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,120 the Smithfield transportation master 1808 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,760 plan. Um, to the right you kind of see 1809 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,239 um, the the project map through here 1810 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:52,000 where it ties on to Southeast and Hyde 1811 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,199 Park. Um, it's up above the canal behind 1812 01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:58,560 the Michel just east of that whole area. 1813 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,239 And then it ties in under that new 1814 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,800 development um on Sky View Hill on the 1815 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,719 north side with the proposed roundabout 1816 01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:07,120 at 600 South and Thousand East in 1817 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,040 Smithfield. 1818 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,080 Next slide. Um this is CMPL map that 1819 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,040 shows the phasing priority as as well as 1820 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,360 um other future projects and roads 1821 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,920 planned through the area. 1822 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,239 Slide 1823 01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:24,640 um the aerial exhibit of the project 1824 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,640 area. I'm just giving kind of a better 1825 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,400 view of of where this road will be 1826 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,880 going. 1827 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,560 On the the bottom of the picture, you 1828 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,640 see 700 East and then looking north, you 1829 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,270 see where it ties into Smithfield City. 1830 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,320 Um, so project details kind of the blue 1831 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,840 north is turned to the right at this 1832 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,159 point. Um, kind of the the plan for the 1833 01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:47,600 project is to build a partial 1834 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,199 cross-section in the blue area. Um and 1835 01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:52,800 it would be built out in the future 1836 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,560 pending development and then through the 1837 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,400 red area would plan on building the full 1838 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,320 cross section um where it's always 1839 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,239 already been developed um on the east 1840 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:03,120 side. 1841 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,360 So um plans to apply for COG funding 1842 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,520 this year. Um design's been funded by 1843 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,480 the CMO already. Um we're estimating $5 1844 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:13,600 million um in construct in in COG 1845 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,480 funding will be the request. Um and at 1846 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,880 this point, uh Smithfield City is not, 1847 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,120 uh requesting any participation from the 1848 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,270 county, um for funding. 1849 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,000 Um that's cross-section. Um so the 80oot 1850 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,440 standard cross-section, which will be 1851 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:30,960 more on that north end, and then that 1852 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,360 partial cross-section. Um, part of the 1853 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,560 plan is also to build a a eight-foot 1854 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,040 path on the, in this case, the west side 1855 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,360 of the road um along the canal there to 1856 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,280 give um some active transportation 1857 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,120 routes between um Hyde Park and 1858 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,560 Smithfield City up there along the 1859 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,669 canal. 1860 01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:52,080 You have any questions? 1861 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,760 >> Does anybody have any questions for 1862 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,040 Josh? 1863 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,120 >> Found slide four very helpful. I like 1864 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,640 that aerial view. 1865 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,080 >> Yeah. 1866 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,840 >> Like to see more of those. Mhm. 1867 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,600 >> Wish I could take credit for it, but I 1868 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,520 was very impressed with my uh engineer 1869 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,440 who helped me on it. So, thank you. 1870 01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,440 >> Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone here 1871 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,199 from the public that would like to speak 1872 01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:16,630 on this 1200 East North End project? 1873 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,280 » Anybody? 1874 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,440 >> Move to close the public hearing. 1875 01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:20,159 >> Second. 1876 01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:21,840 >> Okay. It's moved and seconded that we 1877 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,520 close public hearing. Those in favor say 1878 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,159 I. 1879 01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:26,560 >> I. Any opposed? 1880 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,159 >> Okay. 1881 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:31,040 Thank you. Um, Jesse, I have all these 1882 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,159 signed if you want to just come grab 1883 01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:34,640 them. 1884 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,480 Like I said, the these were not for us 1885 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,040 to discuss tonight. We're just attesting 1886 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,400 that we held the public hearing on 1887 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:45,830 those. So, 1888 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,560 » okay. 1889 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,159 >> I move that we enter the board of 1890 01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:50,640 equalization. 1891 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,719 >> Second move and seconded that we enter 1892 01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:54,400 board of equalization to talk about the 1893 01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:00,870 2026 assessment role colle correction. 1894 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,840 Moving along. 1895 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,239 >> You got a vote. 1896 01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:06,239 >> Do we need to vote on that motion? 1897 01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:07,360 >> Did we vote? 1898 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,120 >> Oh, those in favor. Okay. It's been 1899 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,320 moved and seconded that we enter the 1900 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,679 board of equalization. Those in favor 1901 01:17:11,679 --> 01:17:12,400 say I. 1902 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:12,800 >> I. 1903 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,679 >> Any opposed? 1904 01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:17,840 >> Thank you, Madam Chair, members of the 1905 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,679 council. I'm here today to present the 1906 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:23,040 request for corrections to the 2026 1907 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,000 assessment role. Under Utah code 1908 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,960 59-2-133, 1909 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,000 the assessor may supply or correct 1910 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,840 errors in the assessment book with the 1911 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,239 consent of the county legislative body. 1912 01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:37,840 The corrections before you today 1913 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,600 represent necessary adjustments 1914 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,320 identified since the assessor's tax role 1915 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,040 was closed on May 22nd. 1916 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,040 Uh the majority of the corrections in 1917 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,719 this memo concern a specific cluster of 1918 01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:52,719 parcels in the South Valley Recreation 1919 01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:54,400 Area 1920 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,239 about 16 parcels there 16- 1921 01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,560 094-00005 1922 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,910 through 16-094-0023. 1923 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,760 So during our review, it was determined 1924 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,600 that an incorrect assumption was made 1925 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,880 regarding the property site 1926 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,880 characteristic characteristics for these 1927 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,640 cabin lots. Um the land value for these 1928 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,480 parcels should have been discounted to 1929 01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,080 account for specific location 1930 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,719 attributes. We are requesting to correct 1931 01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,800 these land attributes to ensure the 1932 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,360 assessed values correct accurately 1933 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,040 reflect the market conditions for the 1934 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,360 recreation area. 1935 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,360 Um, one parcel here we have identified 1936 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,070 09-030-000012 1937 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,280 um was erroneously removed from the from 1938 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,520 green belt status. 1939 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,719 Uh the parcel consists of 25.35 acres 1940 01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:51,600 that meet the criteria for green belt. 1941 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,600 We are requesting to reinstate this 1942 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,679 status to ensure statutory compliance 1943 01:18:55,679 --> 01:18:59,199 and fair treatment of of this a land. 1944 01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,120 And then finally, the remaining items on 1945 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,600 the list involve um updates to the 1946 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,440 residential exemption status for four 1947 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:08,400 parcels. We're adding the exemption to 1948 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,189 parcel 04-183-0805, 1949 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,920 which has been confirmed as the primary 1950 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,480 residence of a tenant. 1951 01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:21,040 And we are asking to remove the 1952 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,719 exemption from three parcels where the 1953 01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:24,800 owners maintain their primary residence 1954 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,159 elsewhere. 08-155- 1955 01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:30,400 0310 1956 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,990 07-158-0078 1957 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:40,550 and 03- 021-000024. 1958 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,840 Um, these corrections are essential for 1959 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,239 maintaining the integrity of the 1960 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:47,760 assessment role and ensuring all 1961 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,920 property owners are assessed fairly and 1962 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,800 accurately. So I ask for your blessing 1963 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,520 and formal consent to approve these 1964 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,000 corrected assess values. I'm happy to 1965 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,760 answer any specific questions that you 1966 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,120 have. 1967 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,280 >> So [snorts] we have any questions? 1968 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,920 >> I have more of a procedural question. Is 1969 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,920 are these self-discoveries? Because I 1970 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,560 know we have a board of equalization 1971 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,159 hearing where someone discovers 1972 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,400 evidence, presents it to you, and that 1973 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,560 this is our office found it and we're 1974 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:16,960 making 1975 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,360 >> a little bit of both. I I I can't 1976 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:19,600 remember 1977 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,800 >> if it is both. Do you know why it 1978 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,159 doesn't go through the full hearing? 1979 01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:28,159 >> We could we could ask them where we we feel like it was an error on our 1980 01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:31,600 part. We we can ask to correct that. So 1981 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,640 we felt that rather than ask them to go 1982 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,400 through the regular process of 1983 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,159 appealing, this might be an efficient 1984 01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:38,719 way to do it. 1985 01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:39,920 >> Okay. It's like an outofc court 1986 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,159 settlement kind of situation. 1987 01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,800 >> We think I mean we think this will this 1988 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,400 is more correct obviously. 1989 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,199 >> All right. Thanks. Were 1990 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,679 >> were these more like communication error 1991 01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:54,880 or a just a hit the wrong button? 1992 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,520 >> There's there's about 53,000 parcels. 1993 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,640 So, 1994 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,280 >> taxable parcels. So, 1995 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,159 >> um I think in the past maybe we should 1996 01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:06,000 have and we have in the last few years 1997 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,520 we've started to come before you and ask 1998 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,800 for these corrections and I assume there 1999 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,440 will be corrections in the future but um 2000 01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,520 yeah, they're just data or 2001 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,360 misunderstandings or 2002 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,120 Are these from the patrons that have 2003 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,440 come forth or you you found these? 2004 01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:24,320 >> Um I I think one the one in the 2005 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,800 recreation area did was brought forth 2006 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,960 was brought to our attention. 2007 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,880 >> But several of them you you found the 2008 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,239 air earner. 2009 01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,600 >> I like that proactive attitude actually. 2010 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,920 >> So you have a description of where these 2011 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,800 the big number of land attributes are. 2012 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,719 Um yeah, these are these are south of 2013 01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:46,400 south and a little east I think of Sheep 2014 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,159 Creek Cove if you know where that area 2015 01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:51,440 is east of Ant Flat Road. 2016 01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,120 >> So I was wondering about that and that's 2017 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,960 why I'm asking about the green belt how 2018 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,040 that got twisted in there because I've 2019 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,440 been 2020 01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:58,560 >> uh I I don't 2021 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,080 >> wanting to focus on that area for a 2022 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,600 while on the green belt. 2023 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,800 >> Yeah. Um I don't believe I'd have to 2024 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,400 check. I don't believe that most of 2025 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,920 those ones that I'm asking for 2026 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,080 correction are in green belt. 2027 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,520 You just had the one that I saw. 2028 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,199 >> Yeah, that different one that I 2029 01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,880 >> What are the incorrect land attributes? 2030 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,239 I mean, obviously they were all about 2031 01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:22,320 the same. What What was exactly or 2032 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,040 overview? What 2033 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,560 >> you know, there was a there was a 2034 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,159 landline in our Puma software that I 2035 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,719 think just needed to be corrected. It 2036 01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:34,480 was 2037 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,320 just an just an error. 2038 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,040 >> Okay. 2039 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,440 It ended up being about double the value 2040 01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,239 that it should be. 2041 01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:46,719 >> Are they all about the same acreage? 2042 01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:50,800 >> Yes, they're roughly the same. 2043 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,480 Um I believe they're around 10 acres. 2044 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:55,360 I'd have to confirm. 2045 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,480 >> So when we see one go from 112 112, then 2046 01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:02,880 we have a 277 278. Is that more acreage? 2047 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,280 >> Uh re help me see which parcel you're 2048 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,960 talking. They're on um 160940018 2049 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,719 and 0019. That's it's [snorts] 2050 01:23:12,719 --> 01:23:14,400 more than double what the others are, 2051 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,880 but it's still the same attribute 2052 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,600 question. 2053 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,320 >> I can I email you on that and get some 2054 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,679 make sure I understand that. 2055 01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:25,760 >> And there's one at 300,000. So, 2056 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,400 >> well, if you look at the next line over 2057 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,560 prop building, they obviously have a 2058 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,239 separate building that increases the 2059 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:33,760 value. I don't know what that means, but 2060 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:39,510 is that the explanation? 2061 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,560 » I'd be happy to. 2062 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,520 >> But that still takes about half of it 2063 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,159 >> in the building. 2064 01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:47,840 >> These are the third and fourth ones down 2065 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,800 on the list, right? 2066 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,280 >> Yeah. 2067 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,800 >> Okay. Just email me. 2068 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,440 >> Yeah. 2069 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,280 >> Okay. Does anyone have any further 2070 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,800 questions for our assessor? 2071 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,320 Someone would someone make a motion to 2072 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,120 accept the assessment role corrections? 2073 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,440 >> All moved. 2074 01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:10,639 >> So, I'll second it. 2075 01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:12,400 >> So, it's been moved and seconded that we 2076 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,719 approve the 2026 assessment role 2077 01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:17,040 corrections as they've been presented to 2078 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,120 us. Is there any further discussion? 2079 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,880 >> Did you want to see it first or you just 2080 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,400 want to get the information? 2081 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,719 >> I'll take their word on it. So, 2082 01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:25,120 >> okay. 2083 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,679 >> That doesn't let me yet. So, 2084 01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:29,520 >> all right. Those in favor say I. 2085 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,719 >> I. Any opposed? 2086 01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:34,719 >> Okay. Does someone want to make a mo a 2087 01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:37,520 motion to exit board of equalization? 2088 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,040 >> No, we have tax relief. 2089 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,719 >> Tax relief is not board of equalization. 2090 01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:41,280 >> Oh, it's not. 2091 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,199 >> No, I already talked to Diana. 2092 01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:44,880 >> Okay. I move to exit board of 2093 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,000 equalization. 2094 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,280 >> Second. 2095 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,719 >> Move and second exit board of 2096 01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,719 equalization. Those in favor say I. I. 2097 01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:58,229 >> I. Any opposed? Okay. Diana, tax relief. 2098 01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:00,159 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 2099 01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:03,520 Diana Schaefer for the tax admin 2100 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,320 division of the auditor's office. So 2101 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,280 before you, we have tax relief two 2102 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,440 hardships. You can all see those in your 2103 01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,679 package. 2104 01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,159 If we can start with the one that's 2105 01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:19,280 ending in 0012. 2106 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,679 This is a previous applicant. 2107 01:25:23,679 --> 01:25:26,880 We do recommend approval on this. He's 2108 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,120 he is um has a disability 2109 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,719 has provided all the requisite 2110 01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:37,189 paperwork. 2111 01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:44,480 » I would move to approve 0012 at 50%. 2112 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:45,199 >> Second. 2113 01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:46,800 >> Been moved and seconded that we approve 2114 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,560 hardship that ends in 0012 for a 50% 2115 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,360 hardship relief. Those in favor say I. 2116 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,440 >> I. Any opposed? 2117 01:25:55,440 --> 01:26:01,280 Okay, moving on to parcel 0065. 2118 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,400 Uh, this individual 2119 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,400 does not come with the recommendation 2120 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,679 for approval as she was non-compliant in 2121 01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:13,840 providing requested information. At that 2122 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,719 time, she was also over the income 2123 01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:20,880 limit. She was also denied in 2018 for 2124 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,040 over income and has come to us once 2125 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,880 again. So, 2126 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,800 Recommendation is for a denial. 2127 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,520 >> I'd move to approve 0065 for denial. 2128 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:34,320 >> Second. 2129 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,159 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 2130 01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:39,840 >> on the basis of of a lack of information 2131 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,840 >> non-compliance with information request 2132 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,239 and also over income. 2133 01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:47,679 >> Moved and seconded that we accept the 2134 01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:51,840 denial for the application that in 0065 2135 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,639 for the reasons stated. Any further 2136 01:26:54,639 --> 01:26:55,440 discussion? 2137 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,199 >> No, maybe we just restate the motion 2138 01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:58,719 because it was stated as approved for 2139 01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:00,639 denial, but can we just simplify it to 2140 01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:01,760 deny? 2141 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,280 >> Okay. 2142 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:03,760 >> Is that 2143 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,199 >> Are you okay with the friendly amendment 2144 01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:06,400 to 2145 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:06,800 >> Okay, 2146 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,840 >> same thing. 2147 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,080 >> Okay. Those in favor say I. 2148 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,760 >> I. Any opposed? 2149 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,920 >> Okay. 2150 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,440 >> And 2151 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,880 the next agenda item is for the tax 2152 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,280 relief extension request. This is 2153 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,719 something that we bring to you each 2154 01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:27,600 year. We have 2155 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,800 the legislative body has the ability to 2156 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,000 extend the September 1st tax relief 2157 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,840 filing deadline through December 31st. 2158 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,920 We've always chosen November 30th. 2159 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,760 That's the time that the taxes are due. 2160 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,760 So that gives that us time to close the 2161 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,280 tax role. That's why we ask for the 2162 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,760 November 30th. So we have thousands of 2163 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,400 applicants that we process for these 2164 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,560 various types of tax relief. 2165 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,880 uh low income, the hardships like we 2166 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,639 just heard, also blind exemptions, 2167 01:27:58,639 --> 01:28:01,280 uh military exemptions, 2168 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,560 and settlements and deferrals. 2169 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,040 And so the deadline, as I said, was 2170 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,719 September 1st, but can be extended if 2171 01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:14,639 this body moves to approve this November 2172 01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:18,239 30th request. And it it helps because 2173 01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:23,440 September 1st passes and then 2174 01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:27,280 Mallister will send the actual bill 2175 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,000 sometime mid October but before November 2176 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,239 1st and then there's a lot of people 2177 01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:33,421 that haven't paid attention to 2178 01:28:33,421 --> 01:28:34,800 [cough and clears throat] the office 2179 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,880 that says this is not a bill and then 2180 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,719 they're like oh my goodness I need some 2181 01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:42,591 help. So that allows us to um 2182 01:28:42,591 --> 01:28:44,950 [clears throat] 2183 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,920 you know help those people that need it 2184 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,239 you know within that time frame before 2185 01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:54,870 they pay have to pay the tax. 2186 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,800 » Okay. So we want to make a motion about 2187 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:57,920 this extension. 2188 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,920 >> Move to extend the filing deadline to 2189 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:03,120 November 30th 2026 5 p.m. for the 2190 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,600 low-inccome abatements abatement blind 2191 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,679 exceptions senior deferrals and antigent 2192 01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:09,760 deferrals. Second. 2193 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,360 >> It's been moved and seconded that we 2194 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,360 approve the tax relief filing extension 2195 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,239 request that has been before us. Any 2196 01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,800 further discussion? 2197 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,000 >> Those in favor say I. 2198 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,320 >> I. I. Any opposed? 2199 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,199 >> Okay. 2200 01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:25,040 >> Thank you very much. On the signature 2201 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,320 pages, do you want to just send them 2202 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,440 with the clerk's office? 2203 01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,960 >> Yep. I'll make sure and get them over 2204 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,920 here. 2205 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,760 >> Perfect. Thank you very much, ladies and 2206 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,480 gentlemen. 2207 01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:36,790 >> Thank you. 2208 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,000 » Those afterwards. Okay. Um, we are at 2209 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,840 number 10, proposals for consideration 2210 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,120 of action resolution 2026-28, 2211 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,040 multi-jurisdiction 2212 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:58,000 access request. Matt Phillips, public works director, 2213 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,960 here to discuss this resolution. 2214 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,560 There's been a lot of discussion tonight 2215 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,080 on Highway 238. So, here's here's a 2216 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,840 little bit more. So, 2217 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,400 Um, just as a reminder why we're here, 2218 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,040 this resolution, the road manual states 2219 01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,880 that any 2220 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,040 um, municipal development that wants 2221 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,760 access to a county road needs the 2222 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,760 approval of the council for that. So, 2223 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,000 next one. 2224 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,600 Um, there there should be something 2225 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,000 letter in your packet. It's was this 2226 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,080 request came from Danny McFarland of 2227 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,960 Stackville. It's the access for a new 12 2228 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,880 lot subdivision that was recently 2229 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,159 reszoned within Providence City. He's 2230 01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:44,719 proposing uh this access would be a new 2231 01:30:44,719 --> 01:30:47,280 private road off 400 East our highway 2232 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,360 238. This is 100 west in Providence. 2233 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,120 So just kind of showing the location 2234 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,719 with respect to River Heights and 2235 01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:59,199 Providence where this is 2236 01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:00,960 um highlighted in your screen if you can 2237 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,360 see it with all of the colors. 2238 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,440 Providence is kind of the pink color. 2239 01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:07,360 River Heights is kind of the off yellow 2240 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,320 color and our road is in the middle of 2241 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,639 the slide in the pink highlighted. 2242 01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:16,239 That's our highway 238. So this is just 2243 01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:18,560 barely on the Great River Heights and 2244 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,840 Providence. Next one. This a little 2245 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,320 zoomed in of 2246 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,320 where the proposed development is. 2247 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,560 There's currently I think some a 2248 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:33,280 structures on there with a small a type 2249 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,760 driveway access. So next one, this is a 2250 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,760 proposal of how he's doing this 12 lots. 2251 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,840 Um 2252 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,920 what you can't see is on the very north 2253 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,320 edge of this property. There's wetlands, 2254 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,080 there's some ponds, and there's kind of 2255 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,239 a little stream. 2256 01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:54,159 I wouldn't say that they're part of the 2257 01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,199 flood plane, but they are it is wetlands 2258 01:31:57,199 --> 01:32:01,840 and it is um water. So, kind of that's 2259 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,840 why there's I think he's proposing a 2260 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,159 park there, but it's very difficult for 2261 01:32:06,159 --> 01:32:09,360 this subdivision to access off Spring 2262 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,600 Creek Parkway because of the 2263 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,520 environmental stuff along the north edge 2264 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,880 of this property. So, 2265 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,960 um 2266 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,800 that's about it. Matt, can 2267 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,760 >> you go back a screen? 2268 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,159 >> Yeah, go back. So, in approving this, 2269 01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:29,360 it's still up to the city to worry about 2270 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,760 access like if there's a sec a second 2271 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,080 egress or the fire codes or whatever 2272 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,360 that we're all we're saying is they're 2273 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,679 going to access our the road that we 2274 01:32:37,679 --> 01:32:38,719 own. 2275 01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:39,280 >> Correct. 2276 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,199 We're not worrying about the 2277 01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:42,800 actual development standards. 2278 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,239 >> No. So, as far as those road widths, the 2279 01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:48,159 lot sizes, 2280 01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:50,560 the emergency turnaround at the end of 2281 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,960 the road, all of those types of things, 2282 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,719 because this is in Providence City, 2283 01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:57,440 they're all managed in part of their 2284 01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:59,440 subdivision code or their development 2285 01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:00,480 code. 2286 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,159 >> The only part that we have jurisdiction 2287 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:04,080 over is the rideway. So, it's basically 2288 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,159 from the rideway to our road. That's the 2289 01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:08,480 part that we have jurisdiction over. So 2290 01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:11,120 that would be per county standards. 2291 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,880 Where we run into a lot of issues with 2292 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,480 these is this road, our highway 238 is 2293 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:19,120 classified as an arterial, a minor 2294 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,440 arterial. And to put that into 2295 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,040 perspective of some of the other county 2296 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,320 roads, that is the the road from Menden 2297 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,639 to Logan. So the Menden road or from the 2298 01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:35,199 airport airport road um to from 10th 2299 01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:38,800 west to Daryl's appliance. So that's 2300 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,040 what an arterial is in the county. So 2301 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,760 our arterial standards for the county 2302 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,840 are set up for rural. So our road 2303 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,360 spacing and intersection grids are 660, 2304 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,679 you know, blocks. And so when you get 2305 01:33:53,679 --> 01:33:55,440 into these urban environments and you're 2306 01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,920 trying to push additional accesses on 2307 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,000 our road, they they don't meet our 2308 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,320 standard. So essentially when it gets to 2309 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,840 my level and they're applying for the 2310 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,159 actual permit to do the work, we we 2311 01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:07,840 essentially have to issue them a design 2312 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,159 exception because it doesn't meet our 2313 01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:13,840 standards. So, but in this in this case, 2314 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,239 we've wrote the resolution 2315 01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:18,719 um given the fact that there is some, 2316 01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:21,600 you know, discussions with Providence on 2317 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,679 this juris on the jurisdiction of the 2318 01:34:23,679 --> 01:34:27,920 road and essentially he he's with the 2319 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,960 wetlands and some of the natural 2320 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,560 stuff that's going on along the north 2321 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,199 property, he's essentially he needs to 2322 01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:38,480 access towards our road. So, 2323 01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:40,480 >> uh, Matt, how many feet is there between 2324 01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:44,080 this, uh, this egress and and Spring 2325 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,669 Creek Parkway 2326 01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:49,920 to Is it like a block? Like, is it 2327 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,040 >> Well, you're talking a few hundred feet. 2328 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,800 >> Like 180. Okay, 2329 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,159 >> that's it. Yeah. 2330 01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:57,440 >> Yes. 2331 01:34:57,440 --> 01:34:58,480 >> Wow. 2332 01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,000 >> What's the difference on this and what 2333 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,840 we've set for so long on the River 2334 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,360 Heights one where they were doing a 2335 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,440 subdivision one and a county road two? 2336 01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:07,520 River Heights is basically the same 2337 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,840 thing, Nolan, is we the council approved 2338 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,239 that. So now he's gone back similar to 2339 01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:14,880 this one. Once if we approve this, he's 2340 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,080 going to probably go through the 2341 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,560 subdivision process with the city. He'll 2342 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,560 have to bring in his power, his water, 2343 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,360 his sewer, and and get his engineer to 2344 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,199 design the project and the improvements. 2345 01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,440 So, they're not really moving forward 2346 01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:29,199 with these projects until they get the 2347 01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:31,199 council's approval. Same with the last 2348 01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:32,639 one. We haven't heard back from him 2349 01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:34,400 because he's probably in that 2350 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,440 subdivision approval stage and 2351 01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:40,800 improvement all the improvements 2352 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,639 >> like his sewer, his water, those types 2353 01:35:42,639 --> 01:35:43,920 of thing. He's probably working through 2354 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,840 the city of River Heights for all that. 2355 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,440 So, he hasn't been back for us to 2356 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:49,040 actually get the permit to come in and 2357 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:50,560 do the work. 2358 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,159 >> It's just I've heard so much of River 2359 01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:53,920 Heights and that issue. I've heard very 2360 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,080 little of this one. So, 2361 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,199 >> how does this if we approve this access, 2362 01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,520 does that affect at all the plans that 2363 01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,679 we have to like chip seal that road or 2364 01:36:03,679 --> 01:36:06,719 the things that we plan to do before we 2365 01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:09,600 let ownership of that change? Like, will 2366 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,280 that make any difference? 2367 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,080 >> So, he has one access that he'll 2368 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,840 probably have to close. He'll have he'll 2369 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,280 probably have to remove some curb and 2370 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,639 gutter, but he's his current access is 2371 01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,320 not in that location. So where he's 2372 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,239 proposing, he'll have to move that 2373 01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:25,840 location and most of that's going to be 2374 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,280 from the asphalt back. So because this 2375 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,800 is a private road, you're not going to 2376 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,520 see big intersections and street cuts 2377 01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:37,120 like that. He'll he'll most likely leave 2378 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,520 most of the asphalt intact and just be 2379 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,120 working back. So Sandy, it shouldn't 2380 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,679 affect any of our 2381 01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:45,600 more so it would be if he has to bring 2382 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,440 his sewer and water and stuff that has 2383 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,360 to cut the road. that would have more 2384 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,639 impact in his private driveway. 2385 01:36:52,639 --> 01:36:54,800 >> He'd be responsible for all of that. 2386 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,040 >> Yeah. 2387 01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,440 >> So So the frontage on 238 it would be 2388 01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:01,840 the county standards. 2389 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,639 >> It Yes. Because that's again this is 2390 01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:08,560 probably part of the issue going back is 2391 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,840 Providence doesn't have 2392 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,280 >> is Providence then ain't going to be mad 2393 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,280 because it's not up to their standards. 2394 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,639 >> Um 2395 01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:16,080 >> Proidence give it to him. 2396 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,719 >> Providence isn't here. Providence isn't 2397 01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:20,880 here to answer that, but when I reached 2398 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,880 out to Providence, they didn't have any 2399 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,880 comment of whether they were supported 2400 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,400 or against it. 2401 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:33,830 >> We could speed this up really fast. 2402 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:34,719 » Okay. 2403 01:37:34,719 --> 01:37:37,440 >> Any other questions? 2404 01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:38,800 >> Anybody have any other questions for 2405 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,400 Matt? Okay. Thank you. This is an 2406 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,679 initial proposal. It's a resolution. 2407 01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:47,440 Um, does anyone want to make a motion on 2408 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:51,199 this or do you want to continue it or 2409 01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:58,950 pass it? 2410 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,840 I'm at your disposal. 2411 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,840 Looks like we'll continue that until the 2412 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,080 next meeting. I don't have a motion on 2413 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,590 that. 2414 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,920 Okay. 10B. 2415 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,719 Uh, ordinance 2026-33, the square 2416 01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:16,880 footage exemption for geotechnical 2417 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,040 reports. 2418 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,800 Brian. 2419 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:26,149 Okay, Brian already presented this. Um, 2420 01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:28,239 does anyone have any questions for 2421 01:38:28,239 --> 01:38:31,440 Brian? Do you want to discuss this? Uh, 2422 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,719 >> what's special about 2200 ft? 2423 01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:36,159 >> 2400 square feet. 2424 01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:39,199 >> No, no, 22. We already had 200 square 2425 01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:40,320 feet, right? 2426 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,000 >> Now we're going to 24. So, what's 2427 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,760 special about 2200 ft? 2428 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,520 >> Uh, we just thought about the the 2429 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,199 majority of the sizes of accessory 2430 01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:48,960 buildings we get 2431 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,119 >> um are 60 by 40 or under um it when we 2432 01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:55,119 get the bigger buildings than that, they 2433 01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:56,159 usually have 2434 01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:58,400 >> a second story or a loft or they're 2435 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,719 putting dividing walls in it. So, we 2436 01:39:00,719 --> 01:39:02,080 thought if we're going to raise the 2437 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,920 square footage, let's do it to the our 2438 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,440 most common buildings so that we can 2439 01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:08,400 help the most amount that we can. That's 2440 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,320 kind of where 60 by 40 foot building 2441 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,320 came into play. Yeah, we threw a dart at 2442 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,950 a board. No, I'm just kidding. 2443 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,040 » Okay, any other questions for for Brian 2444 01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,960 about this exemption changing this 2445 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,600 exemption? 2446 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:28,400 >> So, we see a lot of um 2447 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,719 buildings, barns going up and um 2448 01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:35,280 out in the county. 2449 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,800 So 2450 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,480 are we being careful of what we're 2451 01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:40,719 classifying as an agricultural building 2452 01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:42,480 just because it's on green belt or 2453 01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:44,320 what's going on in that manner? Does 2454 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:44,960 that make sense? 2455 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,280 >> Yeah. So right now the agricultural 2456 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,520 buildings aren't going to change how we issue those. This is for the 2457 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:52,960 accessory buildings. 2458 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,560 >> But are we sure that all of those that 2459 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,239 are being built are agricultural 2460 01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:57,040 buildings? 2461 01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,800 >> We take them at their word. They sign a 2462 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,320 document that says that it will always 2463 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,000 be an a building. They can never change 2464 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,669 the occupancy. 2465 01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:07,760 Yeah, as far as determining people's 2466 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,080 intentions in the future, we we don't do 2467 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,910 that. 2468 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,719 » Yeah, my thoughts are more comment than 2469 01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:18,320 question, but if we're going to pass it, 2470 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,000 we have to enforce it. And I think 2471 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,840 that's Nolan's point. I don't know how 2472 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,920 we enforce this all that. Well, 2473 01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:25,920 >> well, I see a lot of buildings going up, 2474 01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,239 but um 2475 01:40:28,239 --> 01:40:31,280 pickle ball courts, whatever else, 2476 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,430 something's going on in there. So, 2477 01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:36,080 There's 2478 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,440 >> how many square feet do you need for a 2479 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:38,320 pickle ball court? 2480 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,400 >> Paddle, a racket tapping. 2481 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,639 >> Well, it's just that you go back a 2482 01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:44,880 couple years and Kathleen How when she 2483 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:49,199 was the assessor, she had to go in and at the request of the state checked 2484 01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:51,520 to see what was in or going on in those 2485 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,880 buildings. And so, are we doing that? I 2486 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,360 mean, I'm not pointing the finger at 2487 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,080 anybody, but I'm just saying 2488 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,000 just like Mark said, if we prove it, how 2489 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,719 do we understand it? And that's my 2490 01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:09,590 question. Kind 2491 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:10,639 buildings, you know, I've been here a 2492 01:41:10,639 --> 01:41:13,119 long time. We've done a lot of a 2493 01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,679 buildings and uh 2494 01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:17,840 you know, if they meet certain criteria, 2495 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,560 uh they can have them. Um, if they do 2496 01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,800 electrical or plumbing in them, they use 2497 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,159 a lot of people get electrical and 2498 01:41:24,159 --> 01:41:25,600 plumbing inspections. That's about the 2499 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,080 best we can do on on an A building. I 2500 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,600 think this helps us with accessory 2501 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,840 structures because, you know, a lot of 2502 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,840 people come in with a building and they 2503 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,280 say, "Oh, we got to get a geological 2504 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,600 report." Well, never mind. It's an a 2505 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,040 building. So, I think this is actually 2506 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,159 going to help us instead of somebody 2507 01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:44,000 maybe not being fully upfront about the 2508 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,679 A building. Now, they'll they'll get in 2509 01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:47,440 a permit for an accessory structure and 2510 01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:50,480 then it can be all upfront and legit. 2511 01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:52,880 So, I I think this will help our case, 2512 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,450 not hurt it. 2513 01:41:56,460 --> 01:41:58,629 [clears throat] 2514 01:41:58,639 --> 01:42:00,239 » Any other questions or does someone want 2515 01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:01,360 to make a motion on this? 2516 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,960 >> I guess we'd wave the rules on this, 2517 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,920 right? I move to wave the rules and uh 2518 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,440 pass ordinance 2026-33 2519 01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:11,520 square footage exemption for geotech 2520 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,560 reports. 2521 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,000 >> Second. Okay, it's been moved and 2522 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,760 seconded that we suspend the rules and 2523 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,480 pass ordinance 2026-33. 2524 01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:20,960 Any further discussion? 2525 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,400 Those in favor say I. 2526 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:22,800 >> I. 2527 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,080 >> Any opposed? 2528 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:24,639 >> Thank you. 2529 01:42:24,639 --> 01:42:26,960 >> Okay. Thanks, Brian. 2530 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:36,629 >> All right, Andrew. 2026-30. 2531 01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:40,310 » Let's see. Andy. 2532 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:51,750 » Andrew, this is 2533 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,600 » Good evening, council. Before you is 2534 01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,760 ordinance 2026-34. 2535 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,920 Before I begin, I'm going to pass out a 2536 01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,840 paper. Half of it you've already 2537 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,080 received. The other half just details 2538 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,080 some of the processes that are proposed 2539 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,639 in this ordinance. They're pretty uh 2540 01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:29,430 just quick references. 2541 01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:41,030 Mr. Chair, 2542 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,080 Let's begin. 2543 01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,560 >> So, Utah code allows for counties to 2544 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,199 enact some uh several optional sales 2545 01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:51,440 taxes. Currently, the following two 2546 01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:53,440 taxes are enacted in county in Cash 2547 01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,520 County. First off is what is called the 2548 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,400 TRCC tax. This is most known mostly 2549 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,480 known here as the restaurant tax just as 2550 01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:02,880 a quick reference. Uh and the second one 2551 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,960 is the wraps tax which also has its own 2552 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,880 unique long title but the most important 2553 01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,239 references in this are going to be the 2554 01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:11,760 wraps tax and the restaurant tax which 2555 01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,320 most of you are already familiar about. 2556 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,679 The wraps tax is used to support 2557 01:44:17,679 --> 01:44:20,159 recreational and zoological facilities. 2558 01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:23,360 And the restaurant tax is to help 2559 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,440 finance tourism promotion in the county 2560 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,360 as well as the development, operation, 2561 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,360 and maintenance of airports, convention 2562 01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,040 centers, cultural facilities, recreation 2563 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,560 facilities, and tourist facilities in 2564 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:33,280 the county. 2565 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:34,239 >> Quick question. 2566 01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:35,119 >> Yes. 2567 01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:37,840 >> On that uh right there enacted in Cash 2568 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,239 County, that's the wraps tax is by vote. 2569 01:44:42,239 --> 01:44:44,800 >> Correct. That one does every 10 years. 2570 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,600 >> So it is enacted but it is by vote by 2571 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,360 the people every 10 years. Right. 2572 01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,760 >> Yes. The next one will be 2032 if 2573 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,840 >> I think that's important to also say. 2574 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,232 >> Yes. 2575 01:44:57,242 --> 01:44:58,880 [snorts] 2576 01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,199 >> So some more background. County code 2577 01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:03,360 defines the specifics of h how Cash 2578 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,880 County implements some of the 2579 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,360 requirements of those tax programs uh 2580 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,920 that state code lays out such as the 2581 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,480 process of awarding funds. uh the size 2582 01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:14,400 of the advisory board, what specific 2583 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,320 percentage allocations can be spent in 2584 01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,520 what category of awards, etc., etc. Uh 2585 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,520 those parts of county code are chapters 2586 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:25,840 3.80 and 3.82. 2587 01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,840 Right now, Cash County uses a joint 2588 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:31,199 advisory board to advise on both the for 2589 01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:33,119 the applications to the wraps tax and 2590 01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:34,800 the restaurant tax. That's why it's 2591 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,639 referred to as the wraps and restaurant 2592 01:45:36,639 --> 01:45:39,520 tax advisory board. Uh just to clear up 2593 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,360 any confusion there. 2594 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,199 So right now at the moment there are 2595 01:45:43,199 --> 01:45:45,040 several outdated provisions in county 2596 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,280 code governing the specifics of how Cash 2597 01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,600 County implements these programs as well 2598 01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,199 as a lack of definition of several 2599 01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:53,199 important issues such as out of cycle 2600 01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:56,800 awards, formal requesting changes in in 2601 01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,840 uh scope of applications and automatic 2602 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,000 return of unused funds as well as some 2603 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:06,159 other number of issues. up. 2604 01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:08,639 Just in short, the ordinance itself aims 2605 01:46:08,639 --> 01:46:11,440 to correct the provisions uh relating to 2606 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,880 these two tax programs. Uh like I said, 2607 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:16,719 there are several outdated and defunct 2608 01:46:16,719 --> 01:46:19,040 provisions and there are certain 2609 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,040 processes that really ought to be 2610 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,440 defined at very minimum and some 2611 01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:25,360 additional requested technical changes 2612 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,920 from the program administrator and just 2613 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,639 some uh some things that me and the 2614 01:46:30,639 --> 01:46:31,840 auditor thought would be some good 2615 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,470 additions as well. 2616 01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:38,560 So the first one is just some technical 2617 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,960 changes to the restaurant tax 2618 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,639 implementation. 2619 01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:44,880 So on your papers it might be referenced 2620 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,760 as the TRCC but again I want to 2621 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,520 emphasize that essentially that is just 2622 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,320 the restaurant tax. 2623 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,239 This would remove some outdated language 2624 01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:57,360 uh related to 2010 2009 2010 date 2625 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,480 clauses. Um, so state law actually 2626 01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:02,400 allows you to use these funds for 2627 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,040 airports. County code currently doesn't 2628 01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:09,440 list that as uh a permissible use. So 2629 01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:12,960 that addition is important. And this uh 2630 01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,639 specifically 2631 01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:16,880 says that not only is this board going 2632 01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,320 to be appointed by the county council, 2633 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,080 but specifically it's going to be 2634 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,560 exercised by a joint board reference 2635 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,480 later on in code. So that way it it 2636 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:27,119 clears up uh some a little bit of legal 2637 01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:28,400 confusion if you're reading it for the 2638 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,560 first time. Uh and independent by 2639 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,639 itself, but it also updates the 2640 01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:34,880 definition of restaurant. I had some 2641 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,440 questions on that earlier. U I believe 2642 01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:39,920 the the state and the state tax 2643 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,840 commission 2644 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,480 uh oftent times are going back and forth 2645 01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:46,239 on on changing what the specifics are 2646 01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:48,400 under what a restaurant is. So, I 2647 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,800 believe the ordinance itself says 2648 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,199 restaurant means whatever the state uh 2649 01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:55,520 defines it as. It keeps it rather 2650 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,199 simple. Does anyone have any questions 2651 01:47:57,199 --> 01:47:59,119 so far? 2652 01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:00,159 >> Yes. 2653 01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:03,040 >> I don't know if this is um but is there 2654 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,280 one board to do both? 2655 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:05,760 >> Okay. 2656 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,790 >> Yep. 2657 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,639 And there is reason because a lot of the 2658 01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:13,520 applications can actually cross over 2659 01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:13,920 >> correct 2660 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,920 >> to each other and it makes it a lot more 2661 01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,040 uh I guess it stretches the dollars when 2662 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,679 you're able to use some here, some there 2663 01:48:23,679 --> 01:48:25,360 in applications. It works out really 2664 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:25,760 good. 2665 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,199 >> Yep. That way you also don't have to 2666 01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:28,639 have two different boards meeting at 2667 01:48:28,639 --> 01:48:30,000 different times and trying to coordinate 2668 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400 all those logistics too uh between which 2669 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,159 one you're going to apply for. So it's 2670 01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:36,159 nice to have them all at once. 2671 01:48:36,159 --> 01:48:38,639 But in terms of amendments to the wraps 2672 01:48:38,639 --> 01:48:42,480 tax itself under chapter 3.82 2673 01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:45,760 this is where most of uh this entire 2674 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:50,400 process is defined. So right now uh the 2675 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,960 ordinance uh sorry county code 3.82 is 2676 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,440 rather short and while it's to the point 2677 01:48:57,440 --> 01:49:00,880 it still has uh it's lacking in a lot of 2678 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,600 details. So this ordinance would expand 2679 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,560 and reorganize a chapter. It wouldn't be 2680 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,320 essentially muddling together different 2681 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,239 details that belong in different 2682 01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:11,280 sections. So that's more of an 2683 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,400 organizational thing, but uh it does 2684 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,320 specifically add the general requirement 2685 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,639 for voter reauthorization every 10 years 2686 01:49:18,639 --> 01:49:20,080 under state statute. So there's no 2687 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,239 confusion about that. It adds the 2688 01:49:22,239 --> 01:49:24,080 statutory definition of a zoological 2689 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,159 organization and it clarifies that 2690 01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:28,080 zoological funds can be used for either 2691 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,320 capital projects or operating expenses. 2692 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,320 that is also permissible under state 2693 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,480 law. Specifically, 2694 01:49:34,480 --> 01:49:36,480 this reassigns the program administrator 2695 01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,800 to report to the county auditor. Uh this 2696 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,719 is given that the county auditor is now 2697 01:49:40,719 --> 01:49:44,000 the county's finance officer uh given 2698 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,159 the change within the past few years and 2699 01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:47,679 the fact that the program is just 2700 01:49:47,679 --> 01:49:49,360 administered under the finance office. 2701 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:50,880 Anyway, 2702 01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,960 this specifically defines the board as 2703 01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:54,960 seven as a seven member board appointed 2704 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,040 directly by the county council and that 2705 01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:01,040 is also by state code as well. And this 2706 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,280 is probably one of the first substantive 2707 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,239 changes here is that this would set a 2708 01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:07,600 two-year term limit for all the 2709 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,520 appointees to the board. So far, it's 2710 01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,880 been one-year appointments, but if you 2711 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,880 want to have someone on the board for a 2712 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,280 little bit to gain experience, this 2713 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,480 gives them a little bit of time, but 2714 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:20,000 also keeps it short enough that if you 2715 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,400 want a change in membership, you can 2716 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,000 just wait the two years and go for 2717 01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,520 someone new. But it also says that 2718 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,280 the board itself will elect a chair and 2719 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,119 the chair has to be an appointed council 2720 01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:33,440 member. So that way there's a little bit 2721 01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,000 of knowledge and organization kind of 2722 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,760 leading the the board itself. Another 2723 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,840 addition is that it mandates a level of 2724 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,840 recusal for the members on the board who 2725 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:45,119 are affiliated with like an applicant 2726 01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,119 organization before the board with the 2727 01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:49,119 exception of a county council member if 2728 01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:52,000 the application is from the county. 2729 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:53,199 Does anyone have any questions on 2730 01:50:53,199 --> 01:51:04,229 anything that I've said on the slide? 2731 01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:07,430 All right, 2732 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:08,960 continuing on with the amendments to 2733 01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,360 chapter 3.82. 2734 01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,679 >> This this is probably one of the uh more 2735 01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:15,920 important substantive parts. If you look 2736 01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,320 on the back of the page that was printed 2737 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,760 out, page two of two, this is uh where a 2738 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,080 lot of this comes in. So right now there 2739 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,880 is no defined way for someone to 2740 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,440 technically apply for applications 2741 01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:32,400 outside of the the set January to May 2742 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,000 regular cycle. That's when most of the 2743 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,679 people submit their applications. The 2744 01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:38,400 review county council goes through them. 2745 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,480 Right now there's not an exception to 2746 01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:44,080 any of that. And I would suggest plainly 2747 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,360 saying they aren't allowed period which 2748 01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,639 that is acceptable. But with the 2749 01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:52,480 outcycle applications as it's written 2750 01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:54,800 now in the ordinance itself, it would 2751 01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:58,560 establish a formal cycle by which the 2752 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,119 county council first takes I take that 2753 01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:04,400 back. [snorts] Someone who is seeking an 2754 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,719 outofcycle application submits a written 2755 01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:08,639 paper application to the administrator 2756 01:52:08,639 --> 01:52:11,920 in which in this case is Alma uh Burgess 2757 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,239 with the with the finance office. 2758 01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:15,599 Afterwards, it comes to the county 2759 01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:18,560 council and the county council can 2760 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,560 either say yes or no to send it to the 2761 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,320 advisory board. But there's a a specific 2762 01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,639 legal, 2763 01:52:26,639 --> 01:52:29,119 how do I say this? A legal hurdle to be 2764 01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:31,520 met, which is 2765 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:32,960 if the request meets the strict 2766 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,480 threshold of an emergency, 2767 01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:36,639 time-sensitive grant deadline, or 2768 01:52:36,639 --> 01:52:38,159 critical operational window that 2769 01:52:38,159 --> 01:52:39,840 otherwise 2770 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,599 uh cannot wait until the next 2771 01:52:41,599 --> 01:52:43,840 application cycle. 2772 01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:48,080 So this uh kind of defines that. It also 2773 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,360 strictly bans the use of grant funds for 2774 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,760 indirect costs for those who are awarded 2775 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,159 the funds for indirect costs, 2776 01:52:56,159 --> 01:52:57,920 administrative overhead or facilities 2777 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,639 expenses, which as I've come to learn is 2778 01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:03,440 more of a a standard u a standard 2779 01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:04,960 practice when it comes to giving out 2780 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,800 grants uh of of this type at least. 2781 01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:12,239 But with the 31-month spending limit, 2782 01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:13,520 this is something that some of the 2783 01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,280 council members have expressed some 2784 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:18,639 interest in in the past is giving a hard 2785 01:53:18,639 --> 01:53:22,000 deadline of when to spend money by. And 2786 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,199 the idea initially was 24 months, but uh 2787 01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:27,520 Alma came up with the idea that we 2788 01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,760 should do 31 and a half months because 2789 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,920 if you go 31 and a half months after the 2790 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,040 initial award in a May of of a year, 2791 01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,440 that gives you until December of two and 2792 01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:39,920 a half years later to essentially figure 2793 01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,679 out if you need to be applying for funds 2794 01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:44,639 again or to submit uh your final report. 2795 01:53:44,639 --> 01:53:46,960 So that way the cycle just lines up 2796 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:48,320 well. 2797 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,199 Um, but it also mandates that unspent 2798 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:53,119 funds at the end of that time period are 2799 01:53:53,119 --> 01:53:55,760 returned to the county counsel to the 2800 01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,400 county within 14 days of expiration. So 2801 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,639 that also sets that hard specific 2802 01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:03,679 deadline so that the county can re uh 2803 01:54:03,679 --> 01:54:05,920 take the that money back if it's not 2804 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,719 been spent. This also prohibits 2805 01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:11,360 extension requests uh unless they're 2806 01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,599 submitted at least 90 days before they 2807 01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:16,080 are expiring. So, that means you can't 2808 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,880 come in a week after uh say your 2809 01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,400 playground uh let's say your costs have 2810 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:23,823 run overboard when you're constructing 2811 01:54:23,823 --> 01:54:25,280 [clears throat] a playground out in the 2812 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:26,880 middle of nowhere. You can't come in 2813 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,719 just a week before and say, "By the way, 2814 01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:33,360 we need an extension." You probably 2815 01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,199 should know that something has has gone 2816 01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:38,560 ary. So, that gives a reasonable uh 2817 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,960 amount of leeway for review. 2818 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,000 >> Hey, let's go back. 2819 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,560 >> Yes. You said that unspent funds they 2820 01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,960 return to the county. 2821 01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,800 >> I Yes. 2822 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,159 >> They didn't really ever get the like 2823 01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:51,920 they apply for the funds, but if they 2824 01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:52,320 haven't 2825 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,040 >> they don't get the money until, 2826 01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,119 you know, they they show that the funds 2827 01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,040 are or that they've spent. 2828 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,280 >> Yeah. It's a reimbursement, not a 2829 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:02,400 >> No. And I understand. 2830 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,000 >> Yeah. It's a reimbursement. It's not a 2831 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,360 you don't give them the money first and 2832 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:06,239 then 2833 01:55:06,239 --> 01:55:07,599 >> So there's nothing to return unless 2834 01:55:07,599 --> 01:55:08,320 money has been spent. 2835 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,239 >> That's what I'm saying. Yeah. 2836 01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:13,119 >> And well, the idea is specifically if 2837 01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:15,760 Oh, sorry. I know that with a lot of the 2838 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,199 requests, I know that some have been 2839 01:55:17,199 --> 01:55:18,719 before the county council to do change 2840 01:55:18,719 --> 01:55:20,560 of scope awards. It's kind of like, 2841 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,400 well, we've spent this much money and 2842 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,239 now there's a surrounder. So, there 2843 01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:26,960 isn't necessarily an automatic provision 2844 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,400 saying that that just goes back to the 2845 01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:32,159 county. But, um, unless I've uh been 2846 01:55:32,159 --> 01:55:34,480 misinformed, which may very well be the 2847 01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,480 case, but um 2848 01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:37,920 >> I think your idea is correct. I just 2849 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,840 think the word return the money version 2850 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:40,719 is a different term. 2851 01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:43,040 >> Fored and then we they forfeited. 2852 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,639 >> That's probably better. Sorry. That's 2853 01:55:44,639 --> 01:55:45,119 probably 2854 01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:45,360 >> Yes. 2855 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:46,800 >> Is that right, Matt? 2856 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:47,520 >> Yes, that's correct. 2857 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:48,159 >> Okay, then. 2858 01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:48,639 >> Okay, 2859 01:55:48,639 --> 01:55:49,840 >> that's a better 2860 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,679 >> Yeah, forfeited. Not the 2861 01:55:51,679 --> 01:55:55,280 >> Yeah, for 2862 01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:56,639 uh let's see. 2863 01:55:56,639 --> 01:55:57,599 >> Sorry about that. 2864 01:55:57,599 --> 01:56:01,510 >> It's all good. 2865 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,520 » Yes. So with the scope of award changes, 2866 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,880 which is something that has come before 2867 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,800 the county council a few times, there's 2868 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:13,679 also not a defined process for that. Um 2869 01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:16,000 in this event, the ordinance would say 2870 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:22,560 that the if there are uh unforeseen uh 2871 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,360 events or the grantee submits a formal 2872 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,280 uh writing change of scope request to 2873 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:28,880 the administrator prior to the grant's 2874 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,639 expiration date. Uh the county wraps a 2875 01:56:32,639 --> 01:56:34,800 tax advisory board, then convenes to 2876 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,800 review the request. Then after that, it 2877 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,320 gives the recommendation to the county 2878 01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,679 council. Um then after that the council 2879 01:56:41,679 --> 01:56:45,920 evaluates the request and uh grants 2880 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,800 formal authorization via a legislative 2881 01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,280 resolution if it so chooses. That's not 2882 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:52,960 a mandate. 2883 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,440 >> I I worry about that one. Yep. 2884 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,440 >> Because I think that at that point when 2885 01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,199 we've accepted and we've actually passed 2886 01:57:01,199 --> 01:57:04,080 the allocations, 2887 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,239 uh I think that that at that point it is 2888 01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:09,920 the council that owns that and that 2889 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,360 uh advisory board does not. So I think 2890 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,679 it would just stick with the council to 2891 01:57:15,679 --> 01:57:20,400 make that change. Am I wrong? 2892 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,719 I I don't I just don't think we have to 2893 01:57:22,719 --> 01:57:24,239 go convene that board again 2894 01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:25,599 >> for the scope of change 2895 01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:27,360 >> because they've just given us the ideas 2896 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,679 and then when we've enacted on it 2897 01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:31,199 >> then that is the ownership of the 2898 01:57:31,199 --> 01:57:32,400 council 2899 01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,119 >> and so I don't think that review board 2900 01:57:35,119 --> 01:57:37,440 would have to go back and look at it 2901 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,709 again. 2902 01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:41,760 » I agree. 2903 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,280 >> Okay. 2904 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,040 >> Can I just want to hear his whole 2905 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,960 presentation and then maybe discuss. 2906 01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,480 Would that be all No, I'm I'm fine with 2907 01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,360 taking questions along the way, but uh 2908 01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,639 with let's see, where was I? 2909 01:57:54,639 --> 01:57:56,639 >> Sorry, Keegan. Interrupted again. 2910 01:57:56,639 --> 01:57:57,280 >> You're good. 2911 01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:57,760 >> 13. 2912 01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,599 >> I have these questions, too. I'm trying 2913 01:57:59,599 --> 01:58:00,880 to jot them down on the way. 2914 01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,719 >> Yep. So this would codified a a a fixed 2915 01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:06,239 reporting schedule which is currently 2916 01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:09,760 not in county code. Uh specifically says 2917 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:10,960 here you have to give a number of 2918 01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,159 progress reports and then a final 2919 01:58:12,159 --> 01:58:14,159 closeout report to the program 2920 01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:15,679 administrator just to make sure that 2921 01:58:15,679 --> 01:58:18,000 everything is going to plan. That also 2922 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,840 helps keep those accountable along the 2923 01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:20,880 way to make sure that they're meeting 2924 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,159 that 31 and a half month deadline. 2925 01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:26,639 And the last thing that would be an 2926 01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:28,880 amendment to chap this chapter would be 2927 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,480 it would establish an official board 2928 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,880 logo and it would encourage and give 2929 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,159 permission directly to the grant 2930 01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:36,800 recipients to display it on unfunded 2931 01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,639 assets and marketing materials. That had 2932 01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:39,760 been a question before that had been 2933 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,320 brought up to the administrator and this 2934 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,719 would just be making it explicit that it 2935 01:58:44,719 --> 01:58:46,800 can be used. 2936 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,757 So, 2937 01:58:49,757 --> 01:58:51,830 [clears throat] 2938 01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:55,440 but yes, I essentially went over the the 2939 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,360 main process improvements or at least 2940 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:01,360 establishing their uh 2941 01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,280 let's see [clears throat] that's 2942 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:04,719 everything that I have in presentation. 2943 01:59:04,719 --> 01:59:08,639 Does anyone have any questions? Yes. So, 2944 01:59:08,639 --> 01:59:10,000 I'm not on the wraps for it, but I'm 2945 01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:11,280 going to ask you guys a question. It 2946 01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,199 seems to me, and I know Matt's going to 2947 01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:14,719 be talking about it, but the out of 2948 01:59:14,719 --> 01:59:18,719 cycle part here because when the 2949 01:59:18,719 --> 01:59:20,960 original applications come in, they're 2950 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,040 during January, February, and you vet 2951 01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:26,239 each one of them. So now we have money 2952 01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:28,159 that we leave in there that's not 2953 01:59:28,159 --> 01:59:32,159 awarded, but then we have a emergency is 2954 01:59:32,159 --> 01:59:33,840 what we're classifying for an out of 2955 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,599 cycle. 2956 01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:37,679 seems like that is going to be 2957 01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:40,159 considered not against those others who 2958 01:59:40,159 --> 01:59:42,719 were not granted any money and I'm 2959 01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:44,880 trying to see the fairness of how an out 2960 01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,679 of cycle review works with those who 2961 01:59:47,679 --> 01:59:50,400 were in that original discussion of 2962 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,480 money. Does that make sense? 2963 01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:54,159 >> Yeah, I had the same question because 2964 01:59:54,159 --> 01:59:55,360 when you get them all, you're 2965 01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,760 considering them relative to each other. 2966 01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,480 >> Then when an emergency comes in, it's by 2967 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:01,119 itself. 2968 02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:03,679 >> Yes. And sometimes their surplus money 2969 02:00:03,679 --> 02:00:05,840 might [clears throat] be easier to 2970 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,800 >> and most of those that do not, they're 2971 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,719 usually scored quite low. 2972 02:00:10,719 --> 02:00:11,040 >> Yeah, 2973 02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:12,639 >> they wouldn't even compare probably with 2974 02:00:12,639 --> 02:00:14,560 an emergency 2975 02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,880 type request that may occur later. But 2976 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,960 if you know that we've put an out of 2977 02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,520 cycle in here, is the board always going 2978 02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:24,239 to pad that excess money down the road 2979 02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:26,080 or what happens there? And I would see 2980 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,000 more if we've [clears throat] kept just 2981 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,280 it's had unlimited fund balance 2982 02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,000 >> and and that's kind of been practice to 2983 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:35,599 have that there 2984 02:00:35,599 --> 02:00:37,679 >> for even though this isn't practice that 2985 02:00:37,679 --> 02:00:40,239 we've had but we've had it there for if 2986 02:00:40,239 --> 02:00:42,159 there is some contingency. 2987 02:00:42,159 --> 02:00:43,760 >> Do you think there's equal consideration 2988 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:45,760 in the January to May versus an 2989 02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,920 emergency one who's by himself in 2990 02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,239 consideration? I just hope I'm giving 2991 02:00:50,239 --> 02:00:52,080 that equal. I think in the last few 2992 02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,159 years we've had some things pop up that 2993 02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:57,760 were unforeseen that we needed to um 2994 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,080 consider, but there was no formal 2995 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,480 process to do that legally and but we 2996 02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,080 were kind of doing it anyway. This 2997 02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,480 formalizes the process and it just makes 2998 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,320 it so that the council can choose 2999 02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:09,920 whether we think it's an emergency or 3000 02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:11,920 whether we even want to consider it. The 3001 02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,320 first vote would be do we even consider 3002 02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,239 it? If we do, it goes back to the wraps 3003 02:01:16,239 --> 02:01:18,880 advisory board. they look at the merits 3004 02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:20,480 of it and make a recommendation to us 3005 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:24,400 and then we take a vote again. And um I 3006 02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:25,840 understand what you're saying, Nolan, 3007 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,960 that it's it's but think about the 3008 02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:30,239 things that have come up like at the 3009 02:01:30,239 --> 02:01:33,440 last minute the opera uh canceled all 3010 02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:35,599 their dates and the the all the theaters 3011 02:01:35,599 --> 02:01:37,920 were going to go out of business if we 3012 02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,599 didn't do some real emergency funding 3013 02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:41,360 for some of the other theater groups. 3014 02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,840 like things happen that were unforeseen 3015 02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,599 and that's there has to be a legal 3016 02:01:45,599 --> 02:01:49,840 process in the code that allows us to 3017 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:52,000 look at those applications off 3018 02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:55,119 >> the question lies upon emergency 3019 02:01:55,119 --> 02:01:57,199 >> well it doesn't necessarily mean e 3020 02:01:57,199 --> 02:01:58,719 there's there's several different 3021 02:01:58,719 --> 02:02:00,400 classifications 3022 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:01,199 um 3023 02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:05,760 >> unforeseen unforeseen unforeseen I think 3024 02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,520 then I leave my then I leave my 3025 02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,040 application till I'm the only one 3026 02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:09,599 considered 3027 02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:11,199 >> well but it's up to this body to 3028 02:02:11,199 --> 02:02:13,360 determine if if that's to be 3029 02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:14,239 entertained. 3030 02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:16,000 >> Yeah, 3031 02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:17,679 >> there's 3032 02:02:17,679 --> 02:02:18,480 there have been some 3033 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,719 >> arbitrary, but still it's up to this 3034 02:02:20,719 --> 02:02:21,920 body to say 3035 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,560 >> it either way in any of the scenarios, 3036 02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,480 whether it's the natural process or the 3037 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,000 exception process, 3038 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,760 >> it's up to this body to deter determine 3039 02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:30,800 if it's a need. 3040 02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:31,440 >> Yeah. 3041 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:32,159 >> For the community. 3042 02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:33,440 >> First, did you want to say something? Um 3043 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,360 I just 3044 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,699 as I look at voting and how you do 3045 02:02:37,699 --> 02:02:40,560 [snorts] voting, the way you typically 3046 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:44,320 do things is by majority vote. If I then 3047 02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:48,560 veto it, comes back and you have to override 3048 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,440 the veto with a twothirds. 3049 02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:54,239 If if you require something to be a 3050 02:02:54,239 --> 02:02:57,119 twothirds vote, 3051 02:02:57,119 --> 02:02:58,880 no need your veto's gonna 3052 02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,520 >> veto proof. And and I guess what I'm 3053 02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:05,599 saying is is I I think if a majority of 3054 02:03:05,599 --> 02:03:09,199 the county council wants something, 3055 02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:11,280 um it doesn't really make a lot of sense 3056 02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:13,920 to put a twothirds on it. I think it's 3057 02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,080 an appropriation. 3058 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,520 Um, I kind of question whether we should 3059 02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,960 ramp up to twothirds vote on anything 3060 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,515 because what you're doing that way 3061 02:03:25,515 --> 02:03:29,520 [snorts] is you're and frankly I'm I'm 3062 02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,480 really not hot on vetoing anything. But 3063 02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:35,199 I think emasculating the county 3064 02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:38,560 executive's veto by saying we're not 3065 02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:40,159 going to pass anything unless it's 3066 02:03:40,159 --> 02:03:42,639 twothirds really means that you're 3067 02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:45,119 taking the county executive out of the 3068 02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:48,800 legislative process which any more than 3069 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,080 >> which I don't think you should be doing 3070 02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:54,960 >> the second half of that statement. 3071 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,040 >> Back to the question that Nolan raises. 3072 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:02,000 I I think that's a good reason to send 3073 02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,440 any request out of cycle back to the 3074 02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,719 advisory committee. And I I I had a hard 3075 02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:11,760 time hearing Sandy be sorry. I think she 3076 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:13,599 may have made that point, but it seems 3077 02:04:13,599 --> 02:04:16,639 to me that by sending things back to the 3078 02:04:16,639 --> 02:04:20,480 committee who did prioritize things, you 3079 02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:23,840 really avoid a situation where somebody 3080 02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:27,440 escapes full review because they know 3081 02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,080 how the system ran when they approved 3082 02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:32,800 things. 3083 02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,199 >> So, gentleman's raising his hand, but I 3084 02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:36,320 don't think there's a public comment 3085 02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:36,639 period. 3086 02:04:36,639 --> 02:04:38,719 >> There is no public comment. I'm sorry. 3087 02:04:38,719 --> 02:04:40,239 sir. Um, 3088 02:04:40,239 --> 02:04:42,639 >> this is why I came. 3089 02:04:42,639 --> 02:04:44,639 >> Sorry, there just there's not a public 3090 02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:46,400 comment about this ordinance. It's an 3091 02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:47,520 ordinance that the council is 3092 02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:48,239 considering. 3093 02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:49,760 >> And why is that? 3094 02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,840 >> Um, because it was not noticed as a 3095 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,639 public hearing and it's um it's a count 3096 02:04:54,639 --> 02:04:56,239 it's a internal council 3097 02:04:56,239 --> 02:04:58,000 >> public input on this. 3098 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,920 >> No, that about another city 3099 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:05,040 council. I would love to share our 3100 02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,041 comments on the exact thing 3101 02:05:07,041 --> 02:05:08,800 [cough and clears throat] about 3102 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,320 >> I'm sorry we didn't notice a public 3103 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:11,599 hearing so we can't accept public 3104 02:05:11,599 --> 02:05:15,760 comments at this time say something 3105 02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:19,040 >> Paradise submitted an application that 3106 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:24,000 was late like 10 minutes it was early 3107 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,639 >> okay whatever it was 3108 02:05:26,639 --> 02:05:28,560 >> I'm trying to help you I'm trying to 3109 02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,520 help you by paring what I understand 3110 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:33,760 about Paradise so that you have the 3111 02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,800 benefit of that information. Paradise 3112 02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,280 had two requests. 3113 02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:42,560 Our the report I received inaccurate or 3114 02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:45,280 whatever is that one was not considered 3115 02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:48,000 because it was delayed or incomplete or 3116 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,239 something and so Paradise has been 3117 02:05:50,239 --> 02:05:53,199 sitting out there with a proposal that 3118 02:05:53,199 --> 02:05:55,599 didn't get into the queue that was 3119 02:05:55,599 --> 02:05:58,320 considered by the committee. 3120 02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:00,880 That's that's one of the things that 3121 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:06,390 happened this year. 3122 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:07,957 » Okay, 3123 02:06:07,957 --> 02:06:09,520 [clears throat] let's go. That's for 3124 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:11,760 now. Let's go through this ordinance. If 3125 02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,440 we wanted to consider passing it 3126 02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:16,000 tonight, we need to consider any changes 3127 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,719 to it. And it looks to me like we're not 3128 02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:20,800 going to be able to pass it tonight. 3129 02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,800 >> We didn't get your questions. All right. 3130 02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:26,000 Well, no. I still had some, but it's 30 3131 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,800 pages and I think I got it yesterday. I 3132 02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:29,840 need more time and 3133 02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:30,560 >> Yeah. 3134 02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:31,440 >> Yep. 3135 02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:32,880 >> Okay. 3136 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:34,719 >> What the Let's keep talking about 3137 02:06:34,719 --> 02:06:39,119 specific things. The the one is 3.82.080 3138 02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:42,880 number four. Remove the 2/3 vote. 3139 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:47,109 Um 3140 02:06:47,119 --> 02:06:49,440 that would be that was the other one. 3141 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,119 Um, when you have the paper that you 3142 02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:52,880 gave us that said the money is returned 3143 02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:54,639 to the county, that's not any that 3144 02:06:54,639 --> 02:06:56,159 verbiage is not anywhere in this 3145 02:06:56,159 --> 02:06:57,599 ordinance, is it? I 3146 02:06:57,599 --> 02:06:59,040 >> was going to say we have to check the 3147 02:06:59,040 --> 02:06:59,679 specifics. 3148 02:06:59,679 --> 02:07:01,679 >> I didn't I didn't see I saw it in your 3149 02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:03,360 explanation, but I didn't specifically 3150 02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,599 see it in the 3151 02:07:05,599 --> 02:07:06,320 >> 10 3152 02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:08,639 >> in the ordinance. 3153 02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:08,960 >> Yeah. 3154 02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,040 >> Also talked about changing returning to 3155 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:12,000 forfeit. 3156 02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:17,750 >> It's on page 18, I believe. 3157 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,480 I'm just looking through it. 3158 02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:24,310 >> 3.8210 3159 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:33,990 » change of scope 3160 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:35,920 clawback. 3161 02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:37,920 >> It says uses the word clawback. I don't 3162 02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:39,199 know that that's 3163 02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:41,679 >> under C. It says unspent project funds 3164 02:07:41,679 --> 02:07:43,440 must be returned to the county within 14 3165 02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:45,199 calendar days of the 3166 02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:50,320 Okay. Yeah, that that verbiage is not 3167 02:07:50,320 --> 02:07:53,280 okay. All right. 3168 02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:54,880 So, there we need to do some work on 3169 02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,320 this. Um 3170 02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:56,960 >> Sandy, 3171 02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:57,679 >> yes. 3172 02:07:57,679 --> 02:07:59,599 >> Excuse me. If our discussions, we talked 3173 02:07:59,599 --> 02:08:01,520 about the composition of the advisory 3174 02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:02,320 committee. 3175 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:02,800 >> Yes. 3176 02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:03,280 >> Um 3177 02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:05,520 >> we'll deal with that in the before we 3178 02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,199 convene committee in the spring. 3179 02:08:07,199 --> 02:08:08,719 >> But that doesn't need to be addressed in 3180 02:08:08,719 --> 02:08:10,480 the in the actual ordinance. 3181 02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:11,920 >> No, because that's already part of state 3182 02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:15,280 code. We will we will deal with that. 3183 02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:18,000 why it's with our state. Okay, got you. 3184 02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,159 >> I just wanted to mention just something 3185 02:08:20,159 --> 02:08:22,159 to consider about the logo or some sort 3186 02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:24,719 of attribution that it's paid for by 3187 02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:26,800 county. I I think it's presented as an 3188 02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,119 option in here. I'd love to make that a 3189 02:08:29,119 --> 02:08:32,000 requirement and maybe we we make it a 3190 02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:33,679 requirement if a certain percentage of 3191 02:08:33,679 --> 02:08:35,760 the project is funded by wraps, but I 3192 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:36,960 think it gives the public the 3193 02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:38,560 opportunity to have that feedback loop 3194 02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,880 of like this is my tax dollars at work. 3195 02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:42,880 So currently they do have to give some 3196 02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:46,480 credit like on a a plaque or on a 3197 02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:48,239 program or something they do have to say 3198 02:08:48,239 --> 02:08:50,880 funding is provided by but the logo 3199 02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,040 would if we could develop I thought we 3200 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:53,599 had a logo 3201 02:08:53,599 --> 02:08:55,679 >> just just to have some sort of standard 3202 02:08:55,679 --> 02:08:57,280 >> we do 3203 02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,840 >> there is one I've seen it 3204 02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:01,679 >> I don't remember the workings 3205 02:09:01,679 --> 02:09:03,280 >> I've seen them on a lot of facilities 3206 02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:04,560 but I don't know that it's on 3207 02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:06,400 >> I see a lot of the signs but I didn't 3208 02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:08,320 know that it was required I think it was 3209 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:08,880 just smart 3210 02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,040 >> it does say application No, 3211 02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:12,719 >> I know. But I think it was smart how 3212 02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:14,719 they, you know, that they do attribute 3213 02:09:14,719 --> 02:09:16,480 and there's signs put up for the brass, 3214 02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:17,679 little things. But 3215 02:09:17,679 --> 02:09:19,119 >> I did not know that it was ever 3216 02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:20,000 required, but 3217 02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,440 >> but maybe we define that a little bit 3218 02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:23,119 more clearly. Yeah. Like, you know, if 3219 02:09:23,119 --> 02:09:24,639 there's a disclaimer, it's like it has 3220 02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:27,599 to be displayed prominently or has to 3221 02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:29,679 occupy this much percentage of the just 3222 02:09:29,679 --> 02:09:31,679 some sort of guidelines 3223 02:09:31,679 --> 02:09:35,119 >> so people people know what that means. 3224 02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:38,560 >> Okay. So, we've got all some work to do 3225 02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:40,639 to get back to Andrew the things that we 3226 02:09:40,639 --> 02:09:42,000 want amended on this. 3227 02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,159 >> Would it would it be all right to 3228 02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:46,560 suggest that this go through and P? 3229 02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,000 >> That would be perfect if they can do it 3230 02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:48,880 in the next two weeks. 3231 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:50,960 >> Can we get that added to this Friday's 3232 02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:52,639 agenda and still meet the posting 3233 02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:54,480 deadline? Andrew. 3234 02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:55,760 >> Oh, you guys already have a meeting? 3235 02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:57,920 >> Yeah, we have a meeting this Friday. 3236 02:09:57,920 --> 02:09:59,040 >> 8:30. 3237 02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,280 Anybody who has any changes, they 3238 02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:02,320 need to make sure they get it to someone 3239 02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:04,639 on the OMP committee before 3240 02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:05,440 >> Thursday night. 3241 02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,520 >> You add that Mark needs to bring donuts 3242 02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:09,199 to that meeting. 3243 02:10:09,199 --> 02:10:14,149 >> The suggestion that we move this to be 3244 02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:16,079 » they can clean it up for us to pass next 3245 02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:20,400 week or next at our next meeting. Okay. 3246 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,159 >> So, we want to continue that one. We 3247 02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:23,520 won't want to take a vote on that 3248 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:27,040 ordinance tonight. And then so we need 3249 02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:30,800 to so 10 E and 10F need to be struck 3250 02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:33,199 from our agenda because we are not 3251 02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:36,800 allowed we are not able to 3252 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:39,920 consider those requests until this 3253 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,320 >> um ordinance is passed that that 3254 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:46,480 outlines the out of cycle procedure 3255 02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:49,360 >> and I agree with what you're doing here 3256 02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:53,119 but um on these two requests for out of 3257 02:10:53,119 --> 02:10:55,520 cycle view. 3258 02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,280 There there are certain standards that 3259 02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,760 have to be met before these should come 3260 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,910 before us. 3261 02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,119 Should should these parties be advised 3262 02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:09,679 that they need to do that so that 3263 02:11:09,679 --> 02:11:13,040 they're they're properly before us at 3264 02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:14,239 the next meeting? 3265 02:11:14,239 --> 02:11:14,880 >> Yes. 3266 02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:16,480 >> That is they should presume we're going 3267 02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,360 to pass the ordinance. 3268 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,679 >> Uh Mr. s uh I've reviewed both 3269 02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:23,679 applications and they do meet the 3270 02:11:23,679 --> 02:11:25,280 standards that are 3271 02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:26,400 >> that we have received. 3272 02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,440 >> I didn't want to get a surprise to them. 3273 02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:29,840 >> Okay. 3274 02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:31,360 >> They've already they've already 3275 02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:34,000 submitted letters and submitted the 3276 02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:36,480 >> and they do have in them the reason why 3277 02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,040 they're being asked. Okay. I mean, 3278 02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:40,880 that's that's what I worry that we're 3279 02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:43,360 trying to hold one hostage because we 3280 02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:44,400 haven't 3281 02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:48,800 >> and that's why we need to make this a a 3282 02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:51,599 >> I mean, so they went ahead and did what 3283 02:11:51,599 --> 02:11:54,800 we told them to go do and now we're the 3284 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:56,639 ones that getting the stink on our face 3285 02:11:56,639 --> 02:11:57,920 for it. So, 3286 02:11:57,920 --> 02:11:59,280 >> and that's why we need to make sure this 3287 02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:01,199 works. When is our next appropriations 3288 02:12:01,199 --> 02:12:02,960 meeting? Is it August 24th? 3289 02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:04,960 >> Our next appropriations uh let me back 3290 02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,199 up. Our next uh budget opening is the 3291 02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:09,199 second meeting in September. And 3292 02:12:09,199 --> 02:12:10,400 although I haven't discussed this yet 3293 02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:13,280 with Mr. uh Mr. Andrews or Mr. Ericson, 3294 02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:14,960 uh we are hoping to do appropriations on 3295 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:16,320 the 14th of September. 3296 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:16,800 >> Okay. 3297 02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:17,280 >> Monday. 3298 02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:18,159 >> That gives us time then. 3299 02:12:18,159 --> 02:12:19,840 >> We can get this done on on 3300 02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:21,280 >> the 25th. Y 3301 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,360 >> we can make this work if if if the board 3302 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,000 would advisory board get together that 3303 02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:26,320 fast. 3304 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:28,159 >> Do we not have one? 3305 02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:29,119 >> We had one on the 24th. 3306 02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:29,920 >> On the 24th. 3307 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,360 >> So are we going to cancel the 3308 02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:33,360 appropriations meeting on the 24th then? 3309 02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:33,760 Yes. 3310 02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:35,599 >> Okay. That was your going to be your 3311 02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:36,400 suggestion. 3312 02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:37,040 >> Yes. 3313 02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,119 >> Okay. 3314 02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:40,960 >> That's because you were assigned donuts 3315 02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:43,360 on that day. [laughter] 3316 02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,280 >> So you you want to do it on September 3317 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:46,800 14th. 3318 02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:47,440 >> That's a Monday. 3319 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,760 >> At what time? 3320 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,719 >> It is a Monday. Yes. 3321 02:12:52,719 --> 02:12:55,760 >> I have two meetings that day at noon 3322 02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,599 already. So it's going to have to be 3323 02:12:57,599 --> 02:12:59,280 later in the afternoon. 3324 02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:00,400 >> It is. 3325 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:03,760 >> Okay. Um, yeah, this is kind of I'm 3326 02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:06,000 sorry. This was a little confusing. I 3327 02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:07,199 was hoping we could get this passed 3328 02:13:07,199 --> 02:13:08,639 tonight, but it obviously needs more 3329 02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:10,239 work. 3330 02:13:10,239 --> 02:13:12,239 Okay, I need someone if they would make 3331 02:13:12,239 --> 02:13:15,840 a motion to strike number E and F off of 3332 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:20,960 our agenda. D was a duplication of C. So 3333 02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:22,800 that 3334 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,199 >> moved. 3335 02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:26,719 It's been moved and seconded that we 3336 02:13:26,719 --> 02:13:27,599 strike 3337 02:13:27,599 --> 02:13:29,040 >> strike it or just move to the next 3338 02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:30,960 meeting. Just yeah, continue would be 3339 02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:31,360 fine. 3340 02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:34,159 >> Continue. Continue E and F to our next 3341 02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:36,880 meeting. Strike D because it was a 3342 02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,520 invitation. 3343 02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:41,280 >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded. 3344 02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:42,079 >> We don't have to make 3345 02:13:42,079 --> 02:13:43,520 >> Do we need to vote on the continuation? 3346 02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:44,239 I don't think we 3347 02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:48,159 >> No, that's fine. Okay. All right. Let's 3348 02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:51,360 continue. Pending items 3349 02:13:51,360 --> 02:13:53,520 11A. 3350 02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:55,119 Resolution appointing members to the 3351 02:13:55,119 --> 02:13:57,360 Cash County Regional Recreation Center 3352 02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,920 feasibility study. 3353 02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:03,520 County Council Regional. 3354 02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:08,229 This is a council board. 3355 02:14:08,239 --> 02:14:09,520 » Andrew, go ahead. 3356 02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:11,760 >> Council, I'm listed as the presenter on 3357 02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:13,920 this, but you were all present last week 3358 02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:18,000 when this was discussed. The names that 3359 02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:19,760 are still in the appointing resolution 3360 02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:21,760 to this advisory committee to the county 3361 02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:26,000 council are still the same. Um, if you 3362 02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:30,560 have any questions, um, I am here to 3363 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:31,679 answer. 3364 02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:32,719 >> Okay. Any 3365 02:14:32,719 --> 02:14:34,159 >> question, 3366 02:14:34,159 --> 02:14:36,400 >> what happened to the additional names 3367 02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:40,719 that were submitted that aren't on the 3368 02:14:40,719 --> 02:14:42,719 committee? 3369 02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:45,360 >> Sorry. 3370 02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:48,079 >> Yeah, our intention was that was a fly. 3371 02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:50,400 >> Excuse me. 3372 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,560 Um I believe so to answer your question 3373 02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,440 the appointing resolution itself has 3374 02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:59,599 three spots for council members up to 3375 02:14:59,599 --> 02:15:02,159 three and for the advisory members there 3376 02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:05,599 are six there were 10 names that were 3377 02:15:05,599 --> 02:15:08,159 floated uh from my count and so there 3378 02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:10,480 were four names not included. These were 3379 02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:12,480 the ones that I was uh directed to put 3380 02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:14,880 in the resolution as placeholders. But 3381 02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:16,560 this means that the ca anyone on the 3382 02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:18,960 county council can motion to amend or 3383 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:20,880 strike any names that they would like. 3384 02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:22,800 So if you are unhappy with any of the 3385 02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:25,920 names, you are uh within your right to 3386 02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:28,239 insert the ones you would like into the 3387 02:15:28,239 --> 02:15:30,480 resolution. 3388 02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:33,920 >> Well, I'd prefer an uneven number of 3389 02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:37,040 people. So would it be possible to 3390 02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:38,880 increase the number? maybe have three 3391 02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:40,960 from the hour, three from the south, 3392 02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:43,679 three from the county seat instead of 3393 02:15:43,679 --> 02:15:45,679 one. 3394 02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:48,880 >> That is a good question. Uh there is a 3395 02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,520 way to do that. Uh in terms of the 3396 02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:53,360 actual composition of the committee, I 3397 02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:54,960 don't think that that can be changed by 3398 02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,079 this resolution, but you could appoint a 3399 02:15:58,079 --> 02:15:59,599 you could list a third member of the 3400 02:15:59,599 --> 02:16:01,280 county council. So then the number would 3401 02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:06,480 be nine in total, not just eight. So 3402 02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:09,119 >> well, or more. I mean, what's wrong with 3403 02:16:09,119 --> 02:16:11,679 13 or 11 or 15 or 3404 02:16:11,679 --> 02:16:13,280 >> the resolution that originally 3405 02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,679 established the advisory committee 3406 02:16:15,679 --> 02:16:17,920 itself specifically laid out the number 3407 02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:20,320 of members? Um, so that would have to go 3408 02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:21,840 back and amend that in a different 3409 02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:23,360 resolution, but 3410 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:25,440 >> that's what I'd recommend that we make 3411 02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,880 an amendment to it. 3412 02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:32,950 >> I understand. 3413 02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:34,160 » Sorry, I don't want to interrupt. Are 3414 02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:35,519 you going to make a motion or 3415 02:16:35,519 --> 02:16:37,599 >> Well, I don't know. Do I have to or can 3416 02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:39,760 we say we want to amend it and then work 3417 02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,880 on it for another time or what? 3418 02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:45,599 >> That is up for the body to decide. 3419 02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:47,359 >> So I I just want to clarify something. 3420 02:16:47,359 --> 02:16:50,000 There was a previously passed resolution 3421 02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:52,800 that set the number of members. And so 3422 02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:54,399 there would need to be not this 3423 02:16:54,399 --> 02:16:57,200 resolution appointing members. There 3424 02:16:57,200 --> 02:16:58,719 would have to be a new resolution 3425 02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,960 noticed up changing the number of 3426 02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:04,080 members on the the board. So that you 3427 02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:07,519 could vote against against appointing 3428 02:17:07,519 --> 02:17:10,399 anyone or ask this be continued. There 3429 02:17:10,399 --> 02:17:12,160 need to be a new resolution, not just an 3430 02:17:12,160 --> 02:17:14,639 amendment brought to change the actual 3431 02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:16,479 composition of the board as far as 3432 02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:18,000 numbers 3433 02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:20,649 >> on this board where it being even 3434 02:17:20,649 --> 02:17:21,760 [clears throat] if the votes were all 3435 02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:23,679 for it. It's just a recommendation. The 3436 02:17:23,679 --> 02:17:26,479 council still has to settle and accept 3437 02:17:26,479 --> 02:17:28,800 that or not accept it. So the importance 3438 02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:32,800 of the number seems lower to me on this 3439 02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:34,399 committee. Am I right? 3440 02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:36,559 >> Yeah. I mean it's an advisory committee. 3441 02:17:36,559 --> 02:17:40,000 >> So a tie is just no recommendation. It's 3442 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:41,120 still up to the council. 3443 02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:42,960 >> They may not even take a vote. That 3444 02:17:42,960 --> 02:17:46,240 might even be part of the process. 3445 02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:49,840 >> I know one reason we um 3446 02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,000 continued it was so that we could vet 3447 02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:57,280 the the people on the committee. And I 3448 02:17:57,280 --> 02:17:59,439 don't know, did any of you try to vet 3449 02:17:59,439 --> 02:18:00,240 them? 3450 02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:03,280 >> I tried, but uh I didn't get a hold of 3451 02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:05,760 all of them. Not they didn't respond. 3452 02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:06,240 >> So we 3453 02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,479 >> So I would like a little more time. 3454 02:18:08,479 --> 02:18:09,519 Personally, 3455 02:18:09,519 --> 02:18:11,920 >> we So we heard from three I think who 3456 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:14,960 were here last time and I see 3457 02:18:14,960 --> 02:18:16,639 >> two 3458 02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:18,800 one new one and I think someone was here 3459 02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:20,160 earlier and 3460 02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:21,280 >> I he he's 3461 02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:22,719 >> don't know if I can blame him for not 3462 02:18:22,719 --> 02:18:23,439 sticking it out. 3463 02:18:23,439 --> 02:18:26,319 >> Speak on his behalf. [laughter] 3464 02:18:26,319 --> 02:18:28,770 So I guess that's a that's a 3465 02:18:28,770 --> 02:18:30,479 [clears throat] a load for you to carry 3466 02:18:30,479 --> 02:18:30,880 Matt. 3467 02:18:30,880 --> 02:18:35,519 >> So I will say there is an opportunity to address at least 3468 02:18:35,519 --> 02:18:37,599 you know one here making it four of the 3469 02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:42,389 six 3470 02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:45,760 but yeah I to answer your question I did 3471 02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:47,920 have the opportunity to talk to a couple 3472 02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:49,359 of them. 3473 02:18:49,359 --> 02:18:49,599 >> Yeah. 3474 02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:53,280 I move that we approve the um 3475 02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:56,639 excuse me the resolution 2026-26 3476 02:18:56,639 --> 02:18:58,960 with the names as listed. 3477 02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:00,479 >> Second. 3478 02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:02,479 >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded that 3479 02:19:02,479 --> 02:19:05,280 we approve resolution 2026-26 3480 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:06,880 appointing members to the Cash County 3481 02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:09,040 Council Regional Recreation Center 3482 02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:11,840 Feasibility Study Committee. Is there 3483 02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,639 any further discussion on that motion? 3484 02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:16,800 >> Just who's going to be responsible for 3485 02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:20,160 training us all to use that acronym? Um, 3486 02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:22,639 it's up to not me. 3487 02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:24,080 >> Okay. If there's no further discussion, 3488 02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:25,760 those in favor say I. 3489 02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:27,439 >> I. Any opposed? 3490 02:19:27,439 --> 02:19:28,559 >> I. Nay. 3491 02:19:28,559 --> 02:19:31,589 >> Okay. 3492 02:19:31,599 --> 02:19:34,160 » And hopefully you'll have a chance to to 3493 02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:35,679 that people will get back to you. I I 3494 02:19:35,679 --> 02:19:38,080 know personally know these people and I 3495 02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:38,559 think 3496 02:19:38,559 --> 02:19:40,479 >> I don't personally know them and I 3497 02:19:40,479 --> 02:19:43,439 contacted them but they haven't all got 3498 02:19:43,439 --> 02:19:44,880 back to me. 3499 02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:47,439 >> Okay. All right. the UAC annual 3500 02:19:47,439 --> 02:19:49,280 convention in Provo. Has everyone given 3501 02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:52,240 Andrew your travel plans for for that 3502 02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,990 week? 3503 02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:57,760 » Anybody who hasn't. Do you have what you 3504 02:19:57,760 --> 02:19:59,520 need, Andrew? 3505 02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:00,800 >> There's someone who is not responding 3506 02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:02,240 yet, but I will not name those. 3507 02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,000 >> Okay. 3508 02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:04,880 >> Male, female. 3509 02:20:04,880 --> 02:20:06,240 >> You're not going to throw anybody under 3510 02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:08,240 the bus. That's very good of you. 3511 02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:11,606 >> Well, it's not me, 3512 02:20:11,606 --> 02:20:13,120 [laughter] 3513 02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:14,720 >> Mark. Okay, [clears throat] 3514 02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:16,240 >> I'm just narrowing it down for you. 3515 02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:17,680 >> All those that have have [laughter] 3516 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:19,520 raiser. 3517 02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:24,240 >> Okay, let's let's get home. Um let's go to council member reports. Um 3518 02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:25,840 Joanne, do you want to start us out? 3519 02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:26,800 >> I don't have anything. 3520 02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:27,840 >> Okay, Keegan. 3521 02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:29,359 >> Sorry, I know I'm standing between us 3522 02:20:29,359 --> 02:20:30,880 and home, but I do have a few things. 3523 02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:31,600 So, go ahead. 3524 02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:32,560 >> If you'll bear with me. 3525 02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:35,760 >> Nope, let us. So, um, KOSAC a while ago, 3526 02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:37,920 um, I think you might remember when we 3527 02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:39,520 presented the option of potentially 3528 02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:41,600 combining the funds with the green belt 3529 02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:42,560 roll back 3530 02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:44,560 >> and we declined to do that and to keep 3531 02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:46,720 them in two separate funds. So, there 3532 02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:48,960 are situations in the meeting where they 3533 02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:51,040 have applications that really make more 3534 02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:53,520 sense as agricultural preservation that 3535 02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:56,560 don't necessarily meet the criteria of 3536 02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:59,600 the broader open spaces bond. for 3537 02:20:59,600 --> 02:21:02,160 example, like public access. We may get 3538 02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:03,600 a project that doesn't really have any 3539 02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:05,680 of those factors, but it would be a good 3540 02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:08,479 use of the green belt funds or or maybe 3541 02:21:08,479 --> 02:21:11,200 more accurately more appropriate use of 3542 02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:13,840 those funds. So, one of the things that 3543 02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:17,280 came up in the meeting was COAC, the 3544 02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:20,800 body asked me, do you want us when we 3545 02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:22,880 make a recommendation to the council 3546 02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:26,319 that we recommend the type of funds that 3547 02:21:26,319 --> 02:21:28,240 we're we're saying ought to be used for 3548 02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,080 this project? And I understand where 3549 02:21:30,080 --> 02:21:31,840 they're coming from. Sort of like we 3550 02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:33,200 talked about the difference between the 3551 02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,359 wrapped tax and the restaurant tax. like 3552 02:21:35,359 --> 02:21:37,520 I don't know if it makes sense to have a 3553 02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,000 co-sac board and then like a a green 3554 02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:44,160 belt board as as well. So, and it also I 3555 02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:45,840 think it makes it more confusing to the 3556 02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:47,359 applicant. Are you applying for open 3557 02:21:47,359 --> 02:21:49,920 space? Are you applying for roll back? 3558 02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:53,200 So, um, I guess my question for this 3559 02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:54,479 group is, and you don't have to answer 3560 02:21:54,479 --> 02:21:56,640 right now, but would would you 3561 02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:58,720 appreciate if KOSAC made those 3562 02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:01,120 recommendations on how the funds ought 3563 02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:04,640 to be applied or do you want them to 3564 02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:05,920 stay out of that? 3565 02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:07,520 >> I'm trying to go back when we talked 3566 02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:09,920 about this. It was agriculture was 3567 02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:12,479 definitely included in the open space. 3568 02:22:12,479 --> 02:22:13,840 >> Are we trying to boot them out of the 3569 02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:15,040 whole Kosak project? 3570 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:17,439 >> So, no, not at all. It's a factor. So I 3571 02:22:17,439 --> 02:22:19,680 think it's like a 15 point factor on 3572 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:20,160 that. 3573 02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:22,000 >> So we've covered it because that was 3574 02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,399 definitely a discussion in 3575 02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:25,840 >> this council when that was brought 3576 02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:28,479 forward is that agricultural meets open 3577 02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:31,920 space which people are wanting. 3578 02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,280 >> Totally true. Yeah. 3579 02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:33,840 >> So Keegan 3580 02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:35,040 >> maybe I'm not explaining 3581 02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:36,319 >> could they come with just their 3582 02:22:36,319 --> 02:22:37,760 recommendations and then this body 3583 02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:39,840 determines the funding mechanism for it. 3584 02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:41,359 So some of it could be roll back and 3585 02:22:41,359 --> 02:22:42,800 some of it could be the bond and and 3586 02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:43,920 then they just come with their 3587 02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:45,439 recommendations and then and then the 3588 02:22:45,439 --> 02:22:47,600 funding mechanism is part of discussion 3589 02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:49,680 in in this forum. I don't know what does 3590 02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:51,280 the council think of that. I just don't 3591 02:22:51,280 --> 02:22:52,880 want it to evolve into a trails 3592 02:22:52,880 --> 02:22:54,880 committee and you know and public active 3593 02:22:54,880 --> 02:22:55,600 committee and 3594 02:22:55,600 --> 02:22:58,319 >> I would I think 3595 02:22:58,319 --> 02:23:00,399 >> I'm going to try to re to state it 3596 02:23:00,399 --> 02:23:02,240 correct me if I'm misunderstanding it 3597 02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:05,760 but what I think you're saying is 3598 02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:08,399 someone applies Kosak reviews it like no 3599 02:23:08,399 --> 02:23:12,399 this is roll back you're just saying can 3600 02:23:12,399 --> 02:23:16,160 we authorize COAC to say 3601 02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,240 in their recommendation that it's a 3602 02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:20,160 recommendation for denial of a cosac 3603 02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,479 step one or whatever and that they 3604 02:23:22,479 --> 02:23:24,800 recommend they talk to us about roll 3605 02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:25,359 back. 3606 02:23:25,359 --> 02:23:26,880 >> Yeah. So maybe another way to state it 3607 02:23:26,880 --> 02:23:28,880 is let's say a project comes forth and 3608 02:23:28,880 --> 02:23:30,880 it score their scores out of a 100, 3609 02:23:30,880 --> 02:23:32,640 right? They look at I think seven 3610 02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:34,800 different factors and let's say it 3611 02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:38,240 scores like a 21 overall on COAC. So 3612 02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:39,600 they're like we would probably recommend 3613 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:41,760 this for denial because it doesn't 3614 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:43,359 really stack up against the other 3615 02:23:43,359 --> 02:23:43,840 projects 3616 02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:47,359 >> just because it's a based. No, just just 3617 02:23:47,359 --> 02:23:49,840 because there's several factors that it 3618 02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,880 might it might score 20 out of 20 on a 3619 02:23:52,880 --> 02:23:54,720 but it might score a zero 3620 02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:56,399 >> because it's a based it scores low 3621 02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:58,160 because they did not allow public access 3622 02:23:58,160 --> 02:24:00,560 in those things. 3623 02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:03,280 >> It's a riparian areas and and if the 3624 02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:06,080 wildlife and I mean it's it's one of the 3625 02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:07,840 many factors. I don't know why it would 3626 02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:09,680 score that low if it were a because it 3627 02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:11,280 would most likely 3628 02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:13,280 >> have a lot of other multiples. I think 3629 02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:14,720 that that example 3630 02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:16,240 >> we could get into the nuance now if you 3631 02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:17,600 want example might just be a little 3632 02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:19,600 >> I'm just trying to keep it high level 3633 02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:21,200 because 3634 02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:23,760 >> maybe even more broadly stated it might 3635 02:24:23,760 --> 02:24:26,160 score low on KOAC relative to other 3636 02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:28,479 projects but if it was just looked at 3637 02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:29,760 from a 3638 02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:31,920 >> green belt roll back it it might be a 3639 02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:34,479 very appropriate use of those funds. 3640 02:24:34,479 --> 02:24:36,160 Well, and I guess you know we voted not 3641 02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:37,840 we voted to keep the two funds separate. 3642 02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,520 So there has to be some mechanism that 3643 02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:41,359 we would consider spending our roll back 3644 02:24:41,359 --> 02:24:43,040 money, right? 3645 02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:45,600 >> Yeah. And I think the public voted for a 3646 02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:47,200 bond for a certain purpose with a 3647 02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:49,280 certain understanding. And I think if we 3648 02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:51,760 don't delineate what those are, then 3649 02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:53,680 that those that water could get muddied 3650 02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:55,040 and they'd say, I didn't really vote for 3651 02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:57,280 the bond to to go towards this 3652 02:24:57,280 --> 02:24:59,359 necessarily or at least I think there's 3653 02:24:59,359 --> 02:25:00,560 another project that's a higher 3654 02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:02,640 priority. 3655 02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:04,640 But so then we would have to develop a 3656 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:08,080 type of screening process for that uh 3657 02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:09,680 the the roll back. 3658 02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:11,040 >> Well, we don't have to do that 3659 02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:12,960 necessarily. All I'm saying is would it 3660 02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:15,120 be appreciated if CO-AC made a 3661 02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:17,359 recommendation on what funds we should 3662 02:25:17,359 --> 02:25:18,880 use or do you just want them to present 3663 02:25:18,880 --> 02:25:21,920 the score for COAC and leave the green 3664 02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,840 belt side of it out of it? That that's 3665 02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:25,600 really the heart of my question. But the 3666 02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:28,160 part I'm trying to understand here is 3667 02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:30,560 when they go to CO-Ass, we're using some 3668 02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:33,520 agricultural entities to support and go 3669 02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:36,160 with that funding. And if we're saying 3670 02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:38,399 it's not agricultural or that it's not a 3671 02:25:38,399 --> 02:25:40,640 cosack, where does lead where does that 3672 02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:42,399 leave the applicant if he's looking for 3673 02:25:42,399 --> 02:25:46,240 NRSC funds or barely land bare river 3674 02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:49,760 land trust who you call land trust all 3675 02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:52,080 >> of those all agricultural based and 3676 02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:54,720 they're involved in the open space and I 3677 02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:57,040 thought it's been a good marriage. 3678 02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:00,720 >> Yeah. And so, uh, I'm not I'm not 3679 02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:03,200 attacking, but I'm just saying we 3680 02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:05,040 separate the agricultural app. And now, 3681 02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:07,200 does he get the help or they get the 3682 02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:09,200 help of matching with those others if 3683 02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:11,840 we've got the green belt? 3684 02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:13,680 >> We need to look at that. How do we 3685 02:26:13,680 --> 02:26:15,920 anticipate being able to make decisions 3686 02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:17,760 about using that green belt fund, the 3687 02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:19,600 green belt fund, because we we know we 3688 02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:21,520 have it and we have to use it within if 3689 02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:23,120 we don't use it within five years of 3690 02:26:23,120 --> 02:26:26,800 when it's um put into that account, then 3691 02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:28,800 it goes automatically to the state like 3692 02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:32,800 we want to have an avenue to use that fund. 3693 02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:33,920 >> I don't I don't know what that is. 3694 02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,080 >> And I do have those amounts. I had uh 3695 02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:38,000 our treasur prepare those if you'd like 3696 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,880 >> score higher and then it would then 3697 02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:43,840 those funds could actually then 3698 02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:46,576 be used for that. 3699 02:26:46,576 --> 02:26:47,760 [clears throat] 3700 02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:51,040 >> Yeah. I feel like examples of applying 3701 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:52,960 it and in a situation where you're 3702 02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:54,640 running into that particular question 3703 02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:56,640 would be helpful for me at least. 3704 02:26:56,640 --> 02:26:57,600 >> Y 3705 02:26:57,600 --> 02:26:58,960 >> yeah and maybe that's 3706 02:26:58,960 --> 02:27:00,640 >> in this council members reports 3707 02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:01,359 discussion. 3708 02:27:01,359 --> 02:27:03,680 >> Yeah. So I I can give you a specific 3709 02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:07,439 example where upon um an applicant 3710 02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:10,479 they originally presented their land 3711 02:27:10,479 --> 02:27:16,319 that was on frontage road and then they came back and and so when it was 3712 02:27:16,319 --> 02:27:18,000 voted on when it was scored by Kosak 3713 02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:19,600 they thought yes this has public benefit 3714 02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:21,040 because it's on a frontage road people 3715 02:27:21,040 --> 02:27:22,960 are going to see it. If it's preserved 3716 02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:26,080 as a that's great that's part of Kosak. 3717 02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:27,680 And then the proponent said, "Well, 3718 02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:29,280 actually, I want to have my family 3719 02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:31,520 build, you know, six lots and they're 3720 02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:33,040 going to put them along the frontage." 3721 02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:35,120 So now the frontage is potent 3722 02:27:35,120 --> 02:27:37,120 potentially blocked. So the public 3723 02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:39,840 benefit, one could argue, is lessened. 3724 02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:41,840 However, because it's preserving a, it's 3725 02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:44,399 still a great use and the state wants to 3726 02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:47,520 preserve a, but it doesn't have the same 3727 02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:49,359 it's not meeting the same standard as 3728 02:27:49,359 --> 02:27:51,520 CO-Ass, 3729 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:54,160 the the the scoring mechanism. So the 3730 02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:55,840 question was, do we take it back and 3731 02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:58,800 rescore it? And if it scores low, maybe 3732 02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:00,479 we don't recommend it to the council 3733 02:28:00,479 --> 02:28:02,880 because relative to other projects, it's 3734 02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:07,040 very low. But for green belt money, this 3735 02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:09,280 could make a lot of sense. So should we 3736 02:28:09,280 --> 02:28:11,120 bring it to the council and say, "We 3737 02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:13,439 recommend you use these funds, or do you 3738 02:28:13,439 --> 02:28:15,120 want us to just stay in our lane and 3739 02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:18,880 just score CO-AC projects and move on?" 3740 02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:21,280 Does that make sense? 3741 02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:24,720 >> I I think what is suggesting here makes 3742 02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:27,120 a lot of sense if we're interested in 3743 02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:31,439 preserving agricultural uses and there 3744 02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:33,600 is a difference between preserving 3745 02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:38,160 agricultural uses and Kosac standards 3746 02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:40,560 and I think we ought to recognize that 3747 02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:44,080 and I think our Kosak committee is 3748 02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:46,240 perfectly attuned to make that 3749 02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:49,040 distinction because I think we want to 3750 02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:51,520 preserve agriculture with those green 3751 02:28:51,520 --> 02:28:53,920 belt monies. 3752 02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:56,399 So, I think I think we ought to have 3753 02:28:56,399 --> 02:29:00,319 them give you advice on it. 3754 02:29:00,319 --> 02:29:02,399 >> I agree. Like, what other what other 3755 02:29:02,399 --> 02:29:04,080 avenue are we going to set up to 3756 02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:05,840 consider using that green belt money 3757 02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:08,319 within the 5-year period that we have to 3758 02:29:08,319 --> 02:29:10,160 that we're restricted? Is there any 3759 02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:11,520 other way that makes sense? 3760 02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:13,600 >> But it should augment 3761 02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:15,359 >> the COAC monies, too, though. 3762 02:29:15,359 --> 02:29:16,160 >> Yeah. Y 3763 02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:17,680 >> we shouldn't just like boot them out of 3764 02:29:17,680 --> 02:29:19,439 CO-AC just because it's straight A. 3765 02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:20,399 >> No, no, no. I'm not. 3766 02:29:20,399 --> 02:29:23,120 >> No, talking about booting anyone out. It 3767 02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:23,680 just 3768 02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:25,920 >> because I I voted for that. I did not 3769 02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:27,680 vote for that for trails. 3770 02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:27,920 >> Yeah, 3771 02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:30,000 >> I voted for it because of the ad con. 3772 02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:31,760 >> Right. But some people did vote for it 3773 02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:33,040 for trails and that's why it's a 3774 02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:36,479 component in the scoring. 3775 02:29:36,479 --> 02:29:39,359 >> Okay. Any what else, Keegan? 3776 02:29:39,359 --> 02:29:41,840 >> Okay. Sorry, guys. I still got a couple 3777 02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:43,760 more. So, airport board, we heard about 3778 02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:45,439 the sponsor board. I won't go into that, 3779 02:29:45,439 --> 02:29:47,760 but that's forthcoming. 3780 02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:50,000 Um, 3781 02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,880 I wanted to talk a little bit about 3782 02:29:52,880 --> 02:29:57,200 taxes if I could. Um, just to frame the 3783 02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:59,439 context of our upcoming discussions and 3784 02:29:59,439 --> 02:30:01,760 budgets. Um, the Cash County School 3785 02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:05,760 Board recently approved a 37.1 3786 02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:07,840 tax increase. 3787 02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:09,680 Um, they went six years without an 3788 02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:12,640 increase. If I did the math correctly, 3789 02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:14,240 compounding interest, that would have 3790 02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:17,120 been about a 4 point or a 5.4. four 3791 02:30:17,120 --> 02:30:19,680 increase every year that would have had 3792 02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:22,160 the same result. And they they did 3793 02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:24,399 apologize for delaying it that long. But 3794 02:30:24,399 --> 02:30:27,040 that's something we ought to consider is 3795 02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:28,880 incremental increases where they're 3796 02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:32,160 appropriate rather than trying to wait 3797 02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:34,640 for one big one. I do understand the 3798 02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,280 pressure there. Um Logan City, for those 3799 02:30:37,280 --> 02:30:39,680 of us that serve on that side, they're 3800 02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:42,800 considering a 23% increase. Their truth 3801 02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:44,720 and taxation meeting was tonight. 3802 02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:46,560 >> School district or this Logan City, 3803 02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:48,960 >> the city. Um, and that would essentially 3804 02:30:48,960 --> 02:30:51,680 replace what we've eliminated from the 3805 02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:54,000 fire um, their portion of the fire 3806 02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:55,439 district. So, 3807 02:30:55,439 --> 02:30:57,920 >> exactly $1.3 million. Yeah, 3808 02:30:57,920 --> 02:31:00,080 >> I I I wish I didn't have to talk about 3809 02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:03,439 this, but um this is kind of a serious 3810 02:31:03,439 --> 02:31:05,760 subject, but I don't know if you saw, 3811 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,399 but a man who also commented our truth 3812 02:31:08,399 --> 02:31:11,680 in taxation last year, uh he threatened 3813 02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:13,680 to kill everyone on the council, and he 3814 02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:17,040 was arrested for for terrorism. Uh 3815 02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:20,479 what's troubling about this is um 3816 02:31:20,479 --> 02:31:22,240 >> it was the council. I thought it was 3817 02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:24,560 just our officers, not the council. 3818 02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:26,479 >> The school board. It was the school 3819 02:31:26,479 --> 02:31:27,280 board. school board, 3820 02:31:27,280 --> 02:31:27,920 >> the school board 3821 02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:30,640 >> for the 37% increase. 3822 02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:32,800 >> But what what was troubling to me is I 3823 02:31:32,800 --> 02:31:34,880 know I know the advice is never read the 3824 02:31:34,880 --> 02:31:36,960 comments, but I read the comments and I 3825 02:31:36,960 --> 02:31:38,720 just want to share some of them. 3826 02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:40,960 >> So you you did the bad advice and now 3827 02:31:40,960 --> 02:31:42,240 you're going to share it with us. 3828 02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:43,680 >> Well, [laughter] 3829 02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:44,880 thanks. 3830 02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:45,280 >> Okay. 3831 02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:48,160 >> I think it's important to know 3832 02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:49,840 >> I think it's also important not to throw 3833 02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:52,160 fuel on a fire. So 3834 02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:54,240 >> I I don't know if I'd I don't know if 3835 02:31:54,240 --> 02:31:56,319 I'd stir a whole bunch of things up. 3836 02:31:56,319 --> 02:31:57,680 aware. Okay. 3837 02:31:57,680 --> 02:31:58,880 >> Yeah, I 3838 02:31:58,880 --> 02:32:00,399 >> I did read the comments. 3839 02:32:00,399 --> 02:32:02,399 >> I I read the comments, too, but I I 3840 02:32:02,399 --> 02:32:03,520 wouldn't bring them out in public 3841 02:32:03,520 --> 02:32:05,359 because that's 3842 02:32:05,359 --> 02:32:05,680 >> Yeah, 3843 02:32:05,680 --> 02:32:06,800 >> I just don't think that that's 3844 02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:08,240 appropriate here to throw fuel on a 3845 02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:09,920 fire. So, 3846 02:32:09,920 --> 02:32:11,600 >> okay. Well, let me just statement my 3847 02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:14,880 intention was not to do that, but um 3848 02:32:14,880 --> 02:32:15,840 >> to raise awareness. 3849 02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:18,240 >> I'll just say that 3850 02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:19,840 we're one of the top five lowest 3851 02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:22,319 counties in the state for taxes. We're 3852 02:32:22,319 --> 02:32:24,319 one of the top three states in the 3853 02:32:24,319 --> 02:32:27,200 nation for the lowest taxes. 3854 02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:29,600 Many of us voted to forego a raise last 3855 02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:33,280 year. Um some people have had their 3856 02:32:33,280 --> 02:32:35,120 taxes lowered in the last three years 3857 02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:39,359 and um I I've never heard a thank you 3858 02:32:39,359 --> 02:32:41,840 for that. So, 3859 02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:44,720 um I think suffice it to say we're 3860 02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:47,760 trying and um and if you look around 3861 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:49,439 there's a lot of pressure from other 3862 02:32:49,439 --> 02:32:51,520 entities to raise taxes and and we're 3863 02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:53,680 doing our best to uh keep those 3864 02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:56,080 reasonable. So, that's something I'm 3865 02:32:56,080 --> 02:32:58,800 going to take into consideration 3866 02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,760 um when it comes time to vote on those 3867 02:33:01,760 --> 02:33:04,640 things. 3868 02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:08,240 >> Okay. Any any other one? 3869 02:33:08,240 --> 02:33:09,359 >> Nope. 3870 02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:11,120 Thanks, Kegan. 3871 02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:13,600 >> No one. 3872 02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:15,840 >> Um, I think everything that I wanted to 3873 02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:19,600 touch on with the fire is uh been 3874 02:33:19,600 --> 02:33:23,680 addressed with the executives um uh his 3875 02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:26,399 review earlier. So, I think that's it. 3876 02:33:26,399 --> 02:33:27,200 >> Okay, Dave. 3877 02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:29,520 >> Yeah, 3878 02:33:29,520 --> 02:33:32,479 >> I just we have OM coming up on Friday 3879 02:33:32,479 --> 02:33:35,280 and um I'm assuming Sandy, you want to 3880 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:36,560 talk a little bit about the fair board 3881 02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:38,560 meeting? Not. No, you go ahead. 3882 02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:40,319 >> Um, just there was a fair board meeting 3883 02:33:40,319 --> 02:33:43,920 last week and most of it was review of, 3884 02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:46,160 you know, are we ready to go? The 3885 02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:47,680 executive brought up some great points. 3886 02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:50,240 If you want his summary, that would be, 3887 02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:51,680 you know, I directed to talk to the 3888 02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:53,760 executive, but he uh ran the meeting 3889 02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:57,840 well. Um, and I just want to say thank 3890 02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:00,399 you to those present who pulled off the 3891 02:34:00,399 --> 02:34:01,920 things at the fair. I know that the 3892 02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,000 executive recognized the roads crew, but 3893 02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:05,920 the sheriff also had a big hand in his 3894 02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:09,359 department in making that event go well. 3895 02:34:09,359 --> 02:34:12,240 And I know Logan PD and I'm sure our 3896 02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:15,040 county fire obviously emergency response 3897 02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,000 was heavily engaged. And it's a huge 3898 02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:19,600 celebration to steal the words that Dave 3899 02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:22,479 usually uses to accurately represent the 3900 02:34:22,479 --> 02:34:24,479 situation. I think fair was an amazing 3901 02:34:24,479 --> 02:34:28,640 thing. Uh, and there was one major 3902 02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:31,120 injury, but the young man, I think, will 3903 02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:32,720 uh live a productive life, but he might 3904 02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:33,840 not get back on a horse again, 3905 02:34:33,840 --> 02:34:36,399 unfortunately. 3906 02:34:36,399 --> 02:34:38,160 >> But it was a good 3907 02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:40,080 >> I, you know, I'm grateful that we were 3908 02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:42,399 all able to be together that night on 3909 02:34:42,399 --> 02:34:43,920 Friday night at the fair. I think that 3910 02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:46,479 was nice. Um, I saw some people that I 3911 02:34:46,479 --> 02:34:48,479 knew waving at me. There were, I heard 3912 02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,240 some make a comment that they heard 3913 02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:51,920 people saying, "Who are who are these 3914 02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:54,240 people?" So, I guess we're not as famous 3915 02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:58,000 as we as famous as we think we are, but 3916 02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:00,560 >> I think we tried. So, um, did you want 3917 02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:01,359 to say something? 3918 02:35:01,359 --> 02:35:03,120 >> Yeah, I I missed one thing that I 3919 02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:04,640 thought I probably should have brought 3920 02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,960 up with you, if you'll indulge me. Um, 3921 02:35:08,960 --> 02:35:10,880 our 3922 02:35:10,880 --> 02:35:14,080 uh DMV contract has an 18month 3923 02:35:14,080 --> 02:35:17,600 termination clause. Um, 3924 02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:20,880 and so if we want to terminate their use 3925 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:23,439 of our facility, I have to give them 18 3926 02:35:23,439 --> 02:35:27,920 months notice. Um, 3927 02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:31,439 I've gone through this with Dne and and 3928 02:35:31,439 --> 02:35:34,319 I have authority to do that, but I'm 3929 02:35:34,319 --> 02:35:36,560 advising you of that to see if any of 3930 02:35:36,560 --> 02:35:39,600 you object to my giving him that notice 3931 02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:40,640 forth with. 3932 02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:41,439 >> Nope. No. 3933 02:35:41,439 --> 02:35:42,800 >> No. 3934 02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:44,800 Let me just say this, and this is 3935 02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:48,640 somewhat responsive to Keegan's concern. 3936 02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:51,120 >> We're looking at how to harden the 3937 02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:54,880 administrative building, and moving DMV 3938 02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:58,160 out or to a different location would 3939 02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:01,040 allow to significantly reduce the 3940 02:36:01,040 --> 02:36:03,520 traffic in the building that that we 3941 02:36:03,520 --> 02:36:06,800 don't have any control over. So we we 3942 02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:09,200 may not only 3943 02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:11,120 look forward to them being out of the 3944 02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:13,600 building, we're looking at reorganizing 3945 02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:16,000 the building where different functions 3946 02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:18,399 are and how one enters the building 3947 02:36:18,399 --> 02:36:22,399 because we we have had threats uh with 3948 02:36:22,399 --> 02:36:26,240 respect to life safety in the building. 3949 02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,880 >> So we're trying to address that. 3950 02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:30,720 >> Okay. Thank you. Anybody have any 3951 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:33,120 objection or want to talk about this DMV 3952 02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:35,600 termination letter? 3953 02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:37,120 >> Where they are to go? It's been talked 3954 02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:39,040 about though. I believe that's underway. 3955 02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:39,439 >> Yes, 3956 02:36:39,439 --> 02:36:41,280 >> that's I think that's important to know. 3957 02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:42,240 >> Yeah. 3958 02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:44,880 >> I just wanted to say goodbye. 3959 02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:45,200 >> Yeah, 3960 02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:45,920 >> there is a plan. 3961 02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:47,280 >> It won't be a surprise to them because 3962 02:36:47,280 --> 02:36:48,319 they're looking. 3963 02:36:48,319 --> 02:36:50,160 >> No, I just wanted to finish my report by 3964 02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:51,920 saying that I was able to go Saturday 3965 02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:53,760 morning to the fair for the junior 3966 02:36:53,760 --> 02:36:55,520 livestock sale and [clears throat] it it 3967 02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:56,880 was the first time I had been to that 3968 02:36:56,880 --> 02:36:59,359 and I was so thrilled. It was really an 3969 02:36:59,359 --> 02:37:00,960 amazing thing to see the community come 3970 02:37:00,960 --> 02:37:03,200 together and support those kids and bid 3971 02:37:03,200 --> 02:37:05,439 on their animals and help them to get 3972 02:37:05,439 --> 02:37:08,399 the money that they need. And um it was 3973 02:37:08,399 --> 02:37:10,880 and there was a century award that we 3974 02:37:10,880 --> 02:37:14,000 gave out to a a farm. It was Jensen 3975 02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:15,120 Hansen 3976 02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:16,640 >> that that had been there for hundred 3977 02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:19,040 years. And um I just think it was a 3978 02:37:19,040 --> 02:37:21,280 really good way a cap to the celebration 3979 02:37:21,280 --> 02:37:23,280 that the fair is and and the biggest 3980 02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:25,920 part is our a culture. And so I thought 3981 02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:28,000 that was good. Um I've been in a couple 3982 02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,080 of meetings with the uh health 3983 02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:32,560 department lately, the board of health 3984 02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:34,880 and just so you I know that we all are 3985 02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:37,359 aware that we signed an interlocal where 3986 02:37:37,359 --> 02:37:40,240 the substance abuse now is connected to 3987 02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:41,920 bear river behavioral health. There was 3988 02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:44,160 a lot of changes and they decided to go 3989 02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:46,160 with capitation instead of a fee for 3990 02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:49,840 service. The bottom line is there will 3991 02:37:49,840 --> 02:37:52,640 probably be a higher amount expected 3992 02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:54,720 from us to match the Medicaid match 3993 02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:56,080 because there going to be more Medicaid 3994 02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:58,479 dollars coming. And we met today to talk 3995 02:37:58,479 --> 02:38:00,960 about to you know beghavioral health 3996 02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:03,840 making sure that they are offering more 3997 02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:07,200 services with some of that um increase 3998 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:12,720 in revenue. So I as we go through the budget and I know you're right in 3999 02:38:12,720 --> 02:38:14,399 the middle of that. Hopefully you've 4000 02:38:14,399 --> 02:38:16,000 been talking to Jordan and we can get 4001 02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:18,479 those numbers and I know Matt that you 4002 02:38:18,479 --> 02:38:20,240 had talked about getting that with them 4003 02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:20,640 and 4004 02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:21,920 >> I sent him an email. 4005 02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:23,600 >> Okay. 4006 02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:25,040 >> Yeah. Hopefully we can get those numbers 4007 02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:26,479 as soon as possible because it's going 4008 02:38:26,479 --> 02:38:28,640 to make a difference to our budget. 4009 02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:30,880 >> We may be able to get some budget 4010 02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:35,680 material before our next meeting, but 4011 02:38:35,680 --> 02:38:37,760 >> we don't have a tenative budget, but we 4012 02:38:37,760 --> 02:38:40,960 have a preliminary budget at this point. 4013 02:38:40,960 --> 02:38:43,600 >> Okay. Yeah. and we the sooner the 4014 02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:45,120 better. If we have papers in front of us 4015 02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:47,280 that we can actually look at, it's going 4016 02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:48,720 to make a big difference to the process 4017 02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:51,840 that we have to go through um pretty 4018 02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:53,280 quickly here. So, that's the last thing 4019 02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:54,880 I had. Does anyone have anything else 4020 02:38:54,880 --> 02:38:57,680 they want to say before we go home? 4021 02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:59,439 Take a me a motion to adjurnn. 4022 02:38:59,439 --> 02:39:01,600 >> So, move second. moved and seconded. We 4023 02:39:01,600 --> 02:39:06,870 journ 4024 02:39:06,880 --> 02:39:09,120 this and invite you to come to the 4025 02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:11,600 tribute 4026 02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:13,359 end of 4027 02:39:13,359 --> 02:39:15,280 >> your input and assistance. 4028 02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:16,640 Unfortunately, I think there was a 4029 02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:20,870 little bit 4030 02:39:20,880 --> 02:39:23,680 on Friday, Saturday. 4031 02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:26,960 >> I am so sorry. 4032 02:39:26,960 --> 02:39:28,640 >> I understand. 4033 02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:30,240 One of the reasons government moved so 4034 02:39:30,240 --> 02:39:33,429 slowly. 4035 02:39:33,439 --> 02:39:36,080 » Well, yes. 4036 02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:37,520 And part of the thing that we were 4037 02:39:37,520 --> 02:39:41,120 talking about was this whole emergency 4038 02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:43,439 concept. 4039 02:39:43,439 --> 02:39:45,520 >> You create your own emergency. That 4040 02:39:45,520 --> 02:39:49,040 doesn't doesn't all of a sudden mean 4041 02:39:49,040 --> 02:39:50,800 special, 4042 02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:53,680 >> you know, accommodations because of the 4043 02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:57,040 one that we had in my discussion and for 4044 02:39:57,040 --> 02:39:59,439 which I had several. 4045 02:39:59,439 --> 02:40:02,000 One of his big concerns 4046 02:40:02,000 --> 02:40:05,840 >> was what he got us 4047 02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:09,920 >> because all of Emily 4048 02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:11,840 to our 4049 02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:14,640 >> it was there weekly. [laughter] 4050 02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:16,479 >> I think we waved. 4051 02:40:16,479 --> 02:40:18,240 >> Yeah. But no good for you. 4052 02:40:18,240 --> 02:40:19,280 >> Thank you so much. 4053 02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:22,880 >> It didn't submit and the other one did. 4054 02:40:22,880 --> 02:40:25,200 And so he was saying yeah I have asked 4055 02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:28,080 for upgrades 4056 02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:29,359 but 4057 02:40:29,359 --> 02:40:31,040 >> and haven't gotten it. 4058 02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:32,640 >> That was one of the things I was here 4059 02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:35,359 for to say give Elma some software that 4060 02:40:35,359 --> 02:40:38,479 works. I mean there is submitt software 4061 02:40:38,479 --> 02:40:40,960 that is easy to use and provides 4062 02:40:40,960 --> 02:40:43,760 feedback on a regular basis. 4063 02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:45,600 >> You have to know there's a bigger story. 4064 02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,800 Oh yeah. 4065 02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:53,190 >> Our department 4066 02:40:53,200 --> 02:40:55,280 » which is driving us all. 4067 02:40:55,280 --> 02:40:57,840 >> Yeah. Alma kind of expressed some of 4068 02:40:57,840 --> 02:40:59,520 that. And that's why I was kind of 4069 02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:02,960 hoping well if I come as a as a user and 4070 02:41:02,960 --> 02:41:06,800 say give Alma some support here people 4071 02:41:06,800 --> 02:41:09,520 that may be able to help me. There's a 4072 02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:15,990 whole system throughout the county. 4073 02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:17,600 » So they're saying if you change one 4074 02:41:17,600 --> 02:41:19,920 thing, you got to change it all. 4075 02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:22,640 >> And what what's actually going on is 4076 02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:26,240 everybody who actually 4077 02:41:26,240 --> 02:41:30,880 >> has their copy of Excel and Microsoft 4078 02:41:30,880 --> 02:41:34,319 uses it and then converts it to sheets. 4079 02:41:34,319 --> 02:41:40,160 >> Yeah. But this this portal that we open 4080 02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:43,680 >> since the advisor meeting anyway 4081 02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:46,800 >> I don't see why you don't try and meet 4082 02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:48,319 those criteria and submit it 4083 02:41:48,319 --> 02:41:49,280 >> and that was the thing we don't know 4084 02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,439 what the criteria is. So that's what 4085 02:41:51,439 --> 02:41:53,840 Alma says why don't you come to this 4086 02:41:53,840 --> 02:41:56,000 meeting he was the one that suggested I 4087 02:41:56,000 --> 02:41:58,319 come to a meeting have the discussion 4088 02:41:58,319 --> 02:42:01,040 with the council and and they'll give 4089 02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:05,990 you the feedback you need. 4090 02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:08,880 I Alma gave me a description of what 4091 02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:10,000 happened. 4092 02:42:10,000 --> 02:42:12,720 >> Okay. 4093 02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:15,200 >> Somehow I got in the middle of the Lyric 4094 02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:18,640 meeting these seats and and so I've been 4095 02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:21,359 trying to be honest with the lyric about 4096 02:42:21,359 --> 02:42:23,359 the problem because they're not in the 4097 02:42:23,359 --> 02:42:26,960 time machine. They have a a season and 4098 02:42:26,960 --> 02:42:28,960 they're trying to put the seats in 4099 02:42:28,960 --> 02:42:31,520 between the seasons. understandable. 4100 02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:32,160 >> So, 4101 02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:33,439 >> which doesn't mean that they couldn't 4102 02:42:33,439 --> 02:42:35,920 have submitted the request 4103 02:42:35,920 --> 02:42:37,680 >> on time. I mean, the work that we were 4104 02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:41,120 doing is months away, but we still 4105 02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:42,160 when we were supposed to. 4106 02:42:42,160 --> 02:42:44,399 >> They were doing the remodeling and they 4107 02:42:44,399 --> 02:42:46,479 really didn't focus on the problem with 4108 02:42:46,479 --> 02:42:49,439 the seats until they got remodeling done 4109 02:42:49,439 --> 02:42:50,000 to sit 4110 02:42:50,000 --> 02:42:52,319 >> and so they created their emergency. 4111 02:42:52,319 --> 02:42:54,880 Well, however, however you want to say 4112 02:42:54,880 --> 02:42:59,439 it, what I would suggest is I'll get the 4113 02:42:59,439 --> 02:43:00,399 criteria. 4114 02:43:00,399 --> 02:43:02,800 >> Uhhuh.