1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Let me just get a confirmation that we're streaming correctly. Just want to 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,839 make sure. >> Facilities. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,200 » No, I just look for thumbs up. We got it. Thank you. Thank you. 4 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:15,360 » Um, okay. Just wanted to make sure. And, uh, District One, uh, Commissioner Kman 5 00:00:13,759 --> 00:00:16,720 » is absent at the moment. Commissioner Greg Young, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,480 » present. >> Commissioner Thomas, 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,640 » present. >> Commissioner John Paul Young 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,840 » here. >> Commissioner Burrell. 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,359 » Commissioner Jones is absent at the moment. Uh, Commissioner Gage Watts is 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,640 absent at the moment. Commissioner Blake >> here. 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,240 » Commissioner Atkins >> here. Commissioner Catherine 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,760 » here. >> Commissioner Lazarus absent at the 13 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:36,640 moment and Commissioner Eper >> present. 14 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:40,559 » Okay. You have eight of 12 commissioners present. Uh that does constitute a 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,680 quorum. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Um at this 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:50,879 time, uh we're going to have pledge of allegiance provided for uh by 17 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:56,160 Commissioner Eperson and our invocation provided by Commissioner Thomas. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,199 Everyone, please stand. Thank you. If you bow your heads, 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,239 please. Uh dear heavenly father, thank you for allowing us to gather here as we 20 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:06,320 conduct the business of this cattle parish. As we do so, dear um heavenly 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,840 father, I pray that you please help us all to be able to see the beauty and the 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,439 majesty in this land and this community that you've given us. I hope that we can 23 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:16,880 all share in that and share in the works in order to make it even greater and it 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,000 can and it can be what you would have it be until your will in your son Jesus 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,200 name I pray. Amen. >> Amen. 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,320 » All face the flag. I would like to ask that all veterans and military render 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:33,840 the standard hand to brow salute. All others right hand across your hearts. 28 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:39,040 Let's remember our PS and our MIAs as we recite the pledge of allegiance. And 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:42,720 thankfully our USS Abraham has a port call and they getting four days shore 30 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:47,119 leave and having a good time in Thailand. 31 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:52,640 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:59,079 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,079 justice for all. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:10,560 » Okay. And at this point, uh, I'm not aware of any agenda additions unless you 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,520 had any, Mr. President. >> No, I do not. 36 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:17,520 » Okay. That brings us then to citizens comments where citizens are asked to 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:22,560 fill out a comment card and submit them uh in the box to my left here. At this 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:29,280 point, we have not received any citizens uh comment requests. So 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:32,879 uh if there are none materializing, we uh can move forward to the next section 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,879 on our agenda. >> Okay. Okay. Okay, that brings us to 41 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:42,160 visitors uh where we do have one scheduled visit today. Uh and that is a 42 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:46,760 visit from our PCC member Jake Brown, Mr. Jake Brown, who I believe is in the 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 office. 44 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Okay, my name is uh Jake Brown. I live at 1243 Pine Island Road, Shripport, 45 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:57,280 Louisiana. Um, so I know there's been a lot of talk about possibly doing 46 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:02,879 planning and zoning in the rural area and I know a lot of that has to do with 47 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:09,280 the uh Trojan horse data centers, you know, cuz now people didn't want rules, 48 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:15,200 but now with data centers coming in, it almost seems like we need rules. And so 49 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,519 I know some of it's been spoken about that we need to do planning and zoning 50 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:24,960 out there, but the main problem I see with that is the people don't really 51 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:29,919 want that. And I know that they want the protection, but they don't want that. 52 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:33,680 But even if we were to do a master plan and do planning and zoning, we're 53 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,080 talking like a year and a half, two years plus to push that through just 54 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:43,680 because of the rules that are set up by the state. You have to have all these 55 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:49,280 meetings. It's a big area. It it it takes time. And then you've the master 56 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:54,240 plan's just an outlook on what the code should do. And then you've got to go and 57 00:04:51,360 --> 00:05:00,880 do another code like a rule development code. And it's just not going to be 58 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:04,400 quick. And by the time that happens, it's going to be too late. You know, I 59 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,720 mean, the data centers are here right now. I mean, I'm hearing that they're 60 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:14,560 also talking about doing a natural gas plant to help power some of them, and 61 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:18,880 that's new, you know, and it's just not going to be good for those 62 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:23,280 people that live out there. So, today, you know, I kind of wanted to talk about 63 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:29,759 kind of how we got here. You know, in 2020, Catalons for Freedom wasn't happy 64 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:35,680 because they were getting tickets and citations out in the five mile zone. And 65 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:40,720 so they started filling up the chambers and they wanted to, you know, change the 66 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:45,360 codes. Well, we got kicked back to the MPC and it was back and forth and we 67 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:51,120 couldn't get anything done. And then we got Mr. McCormack to to do House Bill 68 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,880 697, which passed. And the main reason it passed wasn't because of the codes, 69 00:05:53,440 --> 00:06:00,560 but it was because we weren't represented. You know, if you lived in 70 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:04,080 the city, you got a city councilman to appoint a member and also a 71 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:08,319 commissioner. If you lived out in the five mile zone, you only had a 72 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,479 commissioner that had your back. So, you were under reppresented. So, that's why 73 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:16,720 it got passed. And we were hoping when that happened and we got our own board 74 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:21,680 and I got appointed to the board that we were going to be able to fix the root 75 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:26,080 cause of all that and that's the codes. And that just didn't happen. I mean, 76 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:32,160 it's been 6 years and nothing's happened with it. We are still running with the 77 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:39,440 2030 great expectations master plan and it doesn't represent us. we as a zoning 78 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:44,960 board don't really follow it and we've had to with the help of BPC and they've 79 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:49,919 been a big help now is we've had to do different things like puds and spuds and 80 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:53,600 those are plan unit developments and small plan unit developments and that's 81 00:06:52,400 --> 00:07:00,479 where you're doing something that doesn't really fit the plan because the 82 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:05,520 plan sucks and so we're having to work around this plan on a daily basis and 83 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:10,560 we're fixing it case by case. So, every person that comes in, 99% of the time, 84 00:07:09,039 --> 00:07:14,319 they get to do what they want to on their property, and it and it usually 85 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:20,880 does not fit within the master plan guidelines or the UDC. So, 86 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:25,919 I hear that y'all want to do the zoning and all of it, but then I've got the 87 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:30,880 question of, well, y'all haven't done anything with the five mile zone. I 88 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:36,560 mean, why haven't we fixed that? And so that's where I'm just really reluctant 89 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:43,360 to turning over that power for the rural area, which they're more crazy than the 90 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:48,080 people in the five mile zone. So I mean, and I can't trust that this board's 91 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:52,160 going to do something to do a good plan for them because the first plan it was 92 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:58,560 not good and y'all paid a lot of money for it. And so 93 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:03,680 I kind of want to talk about data centers now and health issues and stuff 94 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,840 that come with them because and that's the packets I gave y'all. Those are all 95 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,240 peer-reviewed scientific studies. There's multiple 96 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:17,120 ones of them. And these are done by scientists that know a lot more about it 97 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:22,319 than I do. And there's a lot of misconception with the old data centers. 98 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:26,560 They were a lot smaller. the new ones. These are going to be these huge 99 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,479 monolithic mega, you know, something that we've never seen before. And so, 100 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:34,479 I'm kind of going to go kind of outline some of these studies and I've given you 101 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:39,760 guys the studies for you to do your own due diligence, but it's like, let's take 102 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:43,839 a look at what these massive footprints actually do to a rural landscape. We 103 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:48,959 aren't talking about a standard office building. We are talking about colossal 104 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:55,920 concrete mon monoliths that permanently erase wildlife habitats and completely 105 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:00,000 alter the local micro climate. There was a groundbreaking breaking study done in 106 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,399 March 2026. The study published by researchers at 107 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:10,080 the University of Cambridge titled the data heat island effect quantifying the 108 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:15,200 impact of AI data centers in a warming world. The researchers tracked the 109 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:19,920 thermal history over 11,000 data centers locations globally and they were using 110 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:24,240 NASA satellite data. What they discovered should terrify everyone in 111 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:27,920 this room. The study mathematically proved that these hypers scale 112 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:34,000 facilities dissipate so much concentrated energy that they create 113 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:38,399 what is now known as a data heat island. According to the Cambridge data, these 114 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:43,200 facilities can increase the ground temp by up to 16 degrees Fahrenheit. That's 115 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:49,920 that's a big change, especially when we've been at 102 103 for the past month 116 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:55,200 with measurable warming and climate disruptions extending up to 10 117 00:09:52,240 --> 00:10:00,160 kilometers more than 6 miles outside the facility's footprint. If you allow the 118 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:04,399 Amazon staff to do these massive data centers in our unincorporated spaces, 119 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:09,680 you are effectively turning rural cattle parish into a dangerous environmental 120 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:15,200 experiment. This lo localized artificial heat stress won't just dredge degrade 121 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:19,760 local agricultural. It will directly threaten the public health of our 122 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,839 elderly elderly residents and our children and the livestock our farmers 123 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:28,560 depend on. It doesn't stop with the heat. The continuous noise from these 124 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:34,079 facilities is an invisible assault on human health. Another comprehensive 125 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:39,920 analysis published in the PMC journal of global data center expansion in human 126 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:45,279 health noted that the internal noise levels from data centers HVAC systems 127 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:51,120 reach up to 96A weighted decibb. The study confirms that this persistent 128 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:56,480 unrelenting low-frequency noise leads to severe sleep deprivation, acute 129 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,959 cognitive impairment, and heightened cardiovascular stress for surrounding 130 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:05,040 communities. And then, you know, let's talk about the 131 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:11,279 water. Our rural communities survive survive on groundwater. Yet this 132 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:15,920 yet this commission is turning a blind eye to the chemical realities of data 133 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,640 center infrastructure to avoid consuming millions of gallons of municipal 134 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:25,680 drinking water daily. Many modern hypers scale facil facilities utilize closed 135 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:30,160 loop or evaporating cooling cooling systems. But these systems come with a 136 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:35,600 dark secret. They have heavy chemical maintenance. According to a June 2026 137 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:39,120 report by the University of Georgia's College of Agricultural and 138 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Environmental Science on how data centers impact surface and ground 139 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,720 waters, these industrial cooling loops require constant treatment with 140 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:54,640 corrosive scaling inhibitors, toxic bioides, chlorine compounds, and glycols 141 00:11:52,160 --> 00:12:02,000 to prevent bacterial and allergy outbreaks. Even more alarming, a compreh 142 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:06,320 a comprehensive investigation report by revealed that the next generation of 143 00:12:03,839 --> 00:12:13,040 data centers are going to use a liquid emerging cooling that relies heavily on 144 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:18,720 highly highly advanced florin florinated fluids. And these are these are forever 145 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,639 chemicals. So that's that's what they're going to use. So, I know that they're 146 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:26,480 saying, you know, you're not going to need that much water cuz it's closed 147 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:33,920 loop. They're going to have forever chemicals in there. And so experts like 148 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:37,839 Laura McKe, a 34-year veteran at the UN univers at the US Environmental 149 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:43,680 Protection Agencies, warned that the primary threats are systematic leaks, 150 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:49,680 accidental spills, and the toxic discharge of mineral heavy blowown waste 151 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:55,680 water into the local water table. If these toxic biocides and glycols or 152 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:59,839 forever chemicals leak from this Amazon stack closed loop system into our 153 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:03,440 unconfined rural aquifers, it will permanently contaminate the drinking 154 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:08,880 water wells of every human being and animal within miles. We are already 155 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:13,200 seing seeing this devastating preliminary signs of this disrupt 156 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:17,120 disruption. Local residents near clearing sites are already reporting 157 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:21,120 that their historic springfed ponds, which have held water consistently since 158 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:25,839 1937, are suddenly losing water. The ecosystem 159 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,240 is starving. And I mean, it's just not going to be 160 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:34,959 good. We're going to be heating this place up. We're going to have these 161 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:41,360 chemicals. You've got a lot of residents that moved out of the city area to live 162 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:46,399 a rural lifestyle. And now this is going to be next door. 163 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:52,079 So let's talk about the human cost and air pollution and premature mortal 164 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:57,519 mortality. The most harrowing asset of this unchecked expansion is the undeni 165 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:02,639 undeniable scientifically modeled human toll. Data centers do not just pull 166 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:08,800 massive electricity from our grid. They require massive grids of their own to 167 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:15,279 guarantee 59's uptime, which that is a system that is available 99.999% 168 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:20,399 of the time, allowing only about 5 minutes and 15 169 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:26,800 seconds of downtime per year. These facilities rely on arrays of dozens of 170 00:14:22,959 --> 00:14:32,720 industrialsiz diesel backup generators. And so according to the American lug 171 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:37,600 association state of air report, it designated DA data center backup 172 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:43,440 generators as a rapidly growing threat to public health. These massive diesel 173 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:48,639 engines emit a catastrophic cocktail of nitrogen oxides, volatile organic h 174 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:53,440 compounds, and fine particle matter known as PM2.5. 175 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:58,639 The Environmental Energy Study Institute notes that these industrial diesel 176 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:04,320 generators emit 200 to 600 times more toxic nitrous oxides than a standard 177 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:09,920 natural gas plant. What does that mean for the human body? PM2.5 bypasses the 178 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,560 lungs and enters the bloodstream directly. A joint public health model 179 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:19,519 developed by researchers at Caltech and the University of California, Riverside 180 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:23,600 calculated the exact national burden of this expansion. Their peer-reviewed 181 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:28,959 model estimated that data centers air pollution will contribute directly 182 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:35,120 to,300 premature deaths every single year in the US by 2030. Furthermore, a 183 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:38,800 specific regional air input analysis conducted by Virginia Commonwealth 184 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:43,199 University and the University of Washington looked at clusters of data 185 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:47,839 centers which is kind of identical to what we're having happen. We've got one 186 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:52,800 on Latex, one in South Shreport, one over in Benton right now. 187 00:15:50,959 --> 00:15:57,199 They discovered that merely testing these generators for less than an hour a 188 00:15:55,199 --> 00:16:02,959 week creates a public health burden equivalent equivalent to operating five 189 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:07,519 gas powered gas fired power stations simultaneously causing a localized spike 190 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:13,120 in chronic respiratory diseases, strokes, heart attacks, and a definitive 191 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:20,639 baseline of annual premature deaths in the immediate area. So the study said 192 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:27,199 for every data center, we're looking at 3 to six people that live around that 193 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:31,440 area dying every year. So I know they've been hanging the carrot and they're 194 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,279 talking about all the jobs they're going to create and they're talking about all 195 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:39,680 the good that these data centers are going to do, but you've also got to look 196 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:44,160 at what it's going to do to those people in y'all's areas that are going to be 197 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:48,320 forced to live close to these things. I mean three to six people per data 198 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:52,440 center. It's a lot of people that are dying because of the data center. 199 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Okay. Another good study is health implications of the rapid rise of data 200 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:06,480 centers in Virginia. An exploratory assessment by George Mason University. 201 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:11,199 This was done in Virginia and it pretty much outlined all this stuff and I gave 202 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:16,799 y'all that that's at the back because I know some commissioners might have gone 203 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:22,319 to Virginia possibly to look at them and I know some people said that the people 204 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:28,480 around there really liked them, but this study seems to show that they don't like 205 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:35,280 them. So, I I just want you guys to do your homework on this. And I know that 206 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:38,480 there's a huge push to do planning and zoning. I don't think that's going to 207 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:45,039 fix the problem. But there are things that y'all can do with your police 208 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:48,960 powers through ordinances that don't I know it gets kind of technical if you 209 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:53,120 don't have planning and zoning. It's real hard for you to use the police 210 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:56,799 powers if you're doing anything with planning and zoning, saying they can't 211 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:01,360 go here or over here or this far from this place. I know there's a lot of case 212 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:06,400 precedent that says that won't work, but you could establish environmental 213 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:12,160 committees right now to slow down these data centers rollouts while while they 214 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:16,400 conduct footprint and quiet studies. Doing these environmental committees, 215 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:21,440 it'll slow them down. You can halt all financial and tax incentive pilot 216 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:27,280 programs. Like we we shouldn't be giving them money. Like that's that's 217 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:33,039 ridiculous. And then your your best one is probably your nuisance ordinances. 218 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Chapter 30. You can define nuisance to include excessive heat, noise, the 219 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:44,559 24hour 24/7 low frequency hum of cooling fans 220 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:49,200 or you and you can also do emissions. So, I mean, y'all can use y'all got 221 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:55,280 tools that you're that y'all can use to try to combat 222 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:58,480 this, but I don't really think you're going to be able to do it with planning 223 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:00,559 and zoning. I just don't think it's going to be quick enough. 224 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:05,520 » All right. Thank you. Thank you very much, uh, Mr. Brown. Uh, your 15 minutes 225 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:10,240 up. Uh, we you don't have to leave now. There may be commissioners that have a 226 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,280 question, uh, for you. Uh, Commissioner Victor Thomas is on the board. 227 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,640 » Thank you, Mr. President. Um, thank you, Mr. for coming and visiting with us 228 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:21,120 today and thank you for your service thus far on the PCC. So, um really want 229 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,039 to applaud you guys for that. >> Um I I really like you I thank you for 230 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,440 your presentation. >> Yes, sir. 231 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:32,720 » Um I wanted to um hit on a few points that you mentioned. Um I know you kind 232 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:38,080 of talked about the conversation around planning and zoning um kind of around 233 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:42,640 how you know our desire is to um settle this. Um you also mentioned um that we 234 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:48,400 haven't really done much with that for six years now. Um I think it is 235 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:53,200 important that we address um the f the file mau zone. Um you know thank you all 236 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:58,799 to the cattle alliance for your efforts in crafting that. Um representation is 237 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:03,679 important. Um what I heard you say though to me still seems like there's 238 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,720 still no representation in real zones. >> Well, there is. 239 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:09,200 » I didn't I'm talking I didn't interrupt you. 240 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:16,799 » Yes, sir. um uh there's still no representation in rural zones. So to me 241 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:22,400 to come to us as this body and to say that you don't trust us to do it when we 242 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:25,919 haven't entrusted you and others to to serve on the PCC. We don't need an 243 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:31,520 environmental committee. We have a parish zone and a planning commission. 244 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Um so to say that you don't trust us to do this when that's literally what you 245 00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:39,760 guys serve on that planning zoning commission for. um you have stood before 246 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,960 this body and your word said that y'all are spot zoning and just throwing stuff 247 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:51,600 up and coming off the wind case by case. Why would we not endure to have a model 248 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:57,360 um a model plan in place? Um not only that, um as it comes to House Bill 9697, 249 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:01,919 you guys successfully lobbyed and got that passed. That's where the ball 250 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:06,080 dropped after that and we it's now time for us to get that in in in in place. 251 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,480 You said that it will take about a year and a half. My question is when are we 252 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:15,520 going to get started? Um your your role on the PCC is not to compile this. I 253 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,840 would love to see one of these on how we can get planning and zoning done. Um I 254 00:21:17,919 --> 00:21:25,280 hopefully we can get something compiled before January. Um because that doesn't 255 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:29,760 make sense to invest the time in this and data centers. We didn't appoint you 256 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,840 guys to the health and and um and and public aware awareness zone. You're 257 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:38,080 there for planning and zoning. research that and please do some homework on that 258 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:42,080 so we can get this done. Um, six years behind is something that I don't think 259 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:46,960 is appropriate. I don't think it's I don't think that any 12 of us can go and 260 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:50,240 ask voters to go and reelect them if we do not get this done. That's how 261 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,760 important it is for me and it should be important to you all as well on the 262 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,280 planning zone um on the planning and zoning commission. Um, we have 263 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,320 committees for these. I wish that this could have been a conversation that we 264 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:04,000 could have had in our rural planning zoning commission or we have an upcoming 265 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:10,240 special projects meeting for that where we can have that discussion. Um, I I 266 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:13,919 think that's a thing that we need and we entrust you all to be able to help us to 267 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:18,000 go and speak to those people in the rural communities so that they can be a 268 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:21,760 part of how we dis how we discuss it, how we plan, and how we implement it 269 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:24,880 because they're going to be the ones to let us know when we cross the line 270 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:29,600 between protections and when we cross the line between persecution and and 271 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:34,799 what they feel is lording over them and things like that. we shouldn't have to 272 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:38,159 twist um police law and law law powers to try to do what we can effectively do 273 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:43,760 through the planning and zoning commission. Um, I think it was kind of 274 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,919 this is a prime example of why we didn't need to send a resolution to the PTC 275 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:52,480 because to me that's the equivalent of sending a text message to y'all to text 276 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,880 us back some some recommendations so we can text you back an approval to do it 277 00:22:54,159 --> 00:23:01,600 when we can literally just all do our jobs and sit here and plan and get this 278 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:05,039 taken care of and get this done. Um I I'm it's sad that you don't trust this 279 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:08,320 board because we have given trust to you all to be able to help carry out this 280 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,600 mission and I hope that we can restore that trust and that we can try to get 281 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,240 this done hopefully once again like I said before January. Um these are some 282 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:19,679 things that I I don't like but this shouldn't be our focus right here. We 283 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:25,840 should be focused on putting protections in so that if um these studies, these 284 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,720 observations, these exploratory uh this exploratory information comes true, 285 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,159 we'll we'll be able to protect our citizens in the future. Thank you, Mr. 286 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:36,320 President, and thank you, Mr. Brown. >> Thank you for your remarks, 287 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,880 Commissioner. Um, the chair recognizes Commissioner John Paul Young. 288 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,000 » Thank you, Mr. President. Thanks for being here, Jake. I appreciate your 289 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:47,120 research. uh the one one very very superficial 290 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,440 fact that you shared with us was that this groundbre breaking study about I 291 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:57,840 think it's the heat island effect came out in March of this year just like 292 00:23:54,559 --> 00:24:01,919 » you know a long time after we got sped through a vote about data centers in the 293 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:08,159 first place. So uh information seems to be coming fast and uh very little of it 294 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:13,760 was you know uh available to our awareness um when we voted about data 295 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:17,520 centers in the first place. Um I also want to thank you for all your work on 296 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,919 the PCC. I know that you have done a lot of work uh for identifying things that 297 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,880 needed to be changed in the code and I know that we have not made any changes 298 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,880 to the code >> according to that. Yeah. Well, we y'all 299 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:33,840 y'all control the purse. So, right. >> I mean, at the end of the day, the MPC 300 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:38,159 is only funded to do the cases. So, until we get that ironed out, and I have 301 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,600 come in >> prior to this meeting, like multiple 302 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:47,600 times >> to try to get funding for master plan to 303 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:53,200 fix the five mile zone. This isn't something I mean when I was president 304 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,880 for the last two years we had a committee and we actually went 305 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,640 through and fixed all the codes. I can give that to you right now. But the 306 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:07,520 problem is it doesn't fit with the master plan. So we can't really fix the 307 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,679 codes until we fix the master plan. We're just putting a mandate on it. 308 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:15,840 Well, it's the UDC that there's a plan. The master That's what I think there's 309 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:20,960 confusion. The master plan says how we're going to do stuff for the next 30 310 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:27,600 years or 20 years. And then out of that master plan becomes a UDC. Those are the 311 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:32,559 codes that govern our private property. And and that's the problem. We keep just 312 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,320 barely fixing the codes. And Mr. Jean, the director, now we've got one that 313 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,919 where we fix the parking. It's coming up soon. You know, y'all are going to get 314 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,520 to see it and and possibly vote on it, you know, if it goes through. But we're 315 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:48,960 trying to at least give us what Shreport's got. Shreport fixed their 316 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:53,919 codes. We We haven't We haven't done the master plan. And the MPC doesn't have 317 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:58,320 the funding to do that unless y'all give the funding to them. And that's the 318 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,720 problem. Like we're kind of at a stalemate. I can only fix it on a case- 319 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:08,000 by case basis because that's what they're paid to do. Could you um could 320 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:13,760 you tell us what you think um would be the characteristics of a master plan 321 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:19,279 that would be um acceptable and uh welcomed by people who are both in the 322 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,720 five mile and in the unzoneed parts of the parish? 323 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:26,880 » I mean I think it would be like we have like at the time we had like 30 324 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:33,120 different zones. We luckily took out a whole bunch of them. We had city zones 325 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:37,600 like zones for Shreveport and that our master plan for the five mile zone to 326 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:42,480 where we have no city. So I mean that's the thing there's so many different 327 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:48,080 there's R1, there's R3, there's R5, there's R seven, there's R12, you know, 328 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:52,799 there's RA, we have the residential broken up, there's RE. It's broken up 329 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,240 into like 15 segments. And that's the problem. Like it just needs to be 330 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:02,000 simple. just needs to be a few, you know, and that's what we were doing, but 331 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:07,919 they don't the MPC can't do it without the funding. There's only so much we can 332 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:12,159 do as appointed board members without them having the funding to do it, you 333 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:16,559 know, or getting and it takes a lot of time to do I mean, you're going to see 334 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:21,039 when you look over the parking space just to trade, just to change that 335 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:26,720 parking spaces aren't required for business, which we've had things fail 336 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:31,120 like there was that grocery store that was over there by Northwood High School 337 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:35,279 that Blanchard didn't annexed it, you know, to because the parking space 338 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,559 issue, you know, and we're fixing that, but like Stephen Gene and them have to 339 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,919 go through that code and change it everywhere. I mean, it's a ton of stuff 340 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,559 to do. I mean, because it's mentioned everywhere. So, I mean, that's kind of 341 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,000 where we're at right now is we need funding for them so that we can 342 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:53,279 fix it. And I think we can do it internally, but like they need more 343 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,799 funding so that they can have people that are just doing that. You know, you 344 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:01,200 got to change the whole map. All those zones have to be changed. I mean, it's 345 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:06,080 just it's a ton of stuff and it just needs to be shrunk. Like, you need to 346 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:09,919 have an RA zone. you maybe you just need to have like an R1 that's residential 347 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:14,240 single family that doesn't allow multiple structures but the majority of 348 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:16,480 people are going to be RA unless there's a subdivision. 349 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,159 » Mr. Brown, I appreciate your additional comments but you know in the interest of 350 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,880 time I think Commissioner Kman was on the board that I see you came back down. 351 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Do you >> still wish to Okay, so 352 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:34,720 » Oh, may I finish up Mr. President? >> Right. But kind of keep it because it's 353 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:38,720 it's getting into it short. So, it looks like my clock is still running. So, I 354 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,480 have two minutes left on the floor. I'll try to be brief. 355 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,440 » No, I'm not I'm not trying to restrict you. 356 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,640 » I understand. >> Okay. 357 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,159 » Um, so I just want to again thank you for your comments. 358 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,559 » Yes, sir. >> Um, I want to thank you for uh your 359 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:54,799 input about uh having a committee to study this for our benefit in particular 360 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,600 and that's something we can talk about more in the future. And um I especially 361 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:05,760 want to thank you for this uh really thorough scientific information which 362 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:09,360 looks uh you know like better better information than I've seen. I I don't 363 00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:15,120 want to speak for other commissioners but I would wager uh most of us have 364 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,120 seen about uh data centers and um thank you so much for sharing your time with 365 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120 us today. >> Thank you Commissioner. Thank you Mr. 366 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,919 President. >> Thank you. Thank you uh Commissioner. Uh 367 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:27,200 let's see. Uh let's go to to Commissioner Bere because you've been up 368 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:32,080 before. The chair recognizes Commissioner Ber. 369 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,399 » Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Brown, glad to see you here. I guess I don't 370 00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:42,080 know it's the first time meeting you, but you took on quite a responsibility 371 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,080 for this PCZ. Uh 372 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:53,520 I've been around uh government for quite a while and I've uh at different levels 373 00:29:50,720 --> 00:30:00,559 and and I know that certain legislation affect certain projects. My question to 374 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:08,240 you and and uh this may be uh for my own edification and education is that uh 375 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:15,200 most of these data center projects are more controlled and affected by 376 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:20,880 state and federal laws more so than local laws is is the way I 377 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:25,760 understand it. And uh these studies are good because I 378 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:31,760 am a study person. I I like to read studies, 379 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:39,760 but shouldn't these studies be directed toward our state and national figures, 380 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:45,440 officials who are basically stuffing down our throats a lot of the 381 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:51,279 legislation that says that you cannot stop these things um that this this 382 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:56,799 private sector development uh for whatever reason. And when it gets to us 383 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,679 as local officials, then we have to figure out how we can circumvent the 384 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,360 laws and the legislation that they've put in place, 385 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,480 » right? >> Uh that really hamstring us. 386 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:14,159 » And let me tell you, it does hamstring us. It bring me back to to an issue that 387 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:20,960 I dealt with 12 years when I was in the legislature and that's having to do with 388 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:25,120 council Alli and the environmental effect that it had on 389 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:31,200 people and still having on people down there who are still getting uh getting 390 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:35,760 cancer generations after generation. But yet 391 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:41,440 there are those studies that are there but nothing is done because the local 392 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:48,640 folks either cannot do anything about it or they don't do anything about it. 393 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:54,000 » I see that same scenario right here. So I'm I'm saying that to say this. Maybe 394 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:59,600 we should take these studies and talk to our state and federal 395 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:05,360 officials. Yeah, I do agree with you on >> before they get to us. And I like to see 396 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,120 people protesting around their doorsteps, 397 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:12,399 » right, >> first and to to to get some some some 398 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,600 push back and see where they are on it because again, a lot of this stuff is 399 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:22,200 stuffed down our throats to the to the to the extent that 400 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:30,320 our hands sometimes are almost tied to do certain things. and the citizens 401 00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:34,960 think that we can work miracles on a local level when we're already tied up 402 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:41,760 at the state and and national level. So, I would like to see um uh more 403 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:47,760 discussion and more fight levels. I I do not agree with the way 404 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Baton Rouge has been handling all this and I think it's not good what they're 405 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:57,200 doing, but like >> if you can do something to help your 406 00:32:55,039 --> 00:33:00,880 people, like shouldn't you like that? That's all I'm saying. You know, you 407 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,240 know what I mean? I mean, and I know they're putting roadblocks up and it's 408 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,399 » all politics is local. >> Yeah. Exactly. 409 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,840 » The same people that vote for us vote for them. 410 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:11,840 » Yeah. >> And maybe we should be on their 411 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,440 doorsteps. Maybe we should have signs in their faces. 412 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,840 » Yeah. >> Maybe we should be waving our flags with 413 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,600 these studies and say, "Look, it's killing us." 414 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,799 » Yeah. >> And can you do something so they can 415 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:28,240 help local people, local >> Yes, sir. 416 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,960 » legislators to try to help you at this level. 417 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,159 » Thank you, Mr. President. >> Thank you for your remarks, Commissioner 418 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Burrell. Uh, the chair recognizes for a second time, Commissioner, Victor 419 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,240 Thomas. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Um and I I 420 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,399 apologize earlier in my comments because um I do want to make sure I recognize 421 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:48,159 the fact that you did come before us. I remember my first time meeting you um in 422 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:52,320 a committee in which we spoke with you and Miss Laura Newbert and you did 423 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,679 present some um you guys did a great job of going through and presenting some um 424 00:33:54,399 --> 00:34:00,640 changes that you thought would be beneficial um just even on a you know an 425 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,240 immediate level at that time. Um and I remember the momentum behind that and I 426 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:09,200 you know want to let remind you that the why that momentum stalled. Um when we 427 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:14,000 initiated trying to split the cost of the of the master plan with the city of 428 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:19,359 Shreport um we had colleagues who um instead of trying to figure that out 429 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:24,320 they much rather us defund MPC and break away from MPC alto together. So that's 430 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,240 why that stalled and why once again we have kicked the can and not done a 431 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:32,720 master plan. Um, like you stated earlier, master plan, it it puts into 432 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:36,560 place how we'll do this for the next 20, 30 years. And I think that's important. 433 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:41,520 And I I hope that you can recognize that. I say this because this body has 434 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:46,560 the desire to get this this problem fixed, not just put a band-aid on it. In 435 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:50,720 20, 30 years, we can't say who or what a commission body will have the desire to 436 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:55,520 do. But while we have a chance to do something, we can do so. Um, you say 437 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,760 it's going to take time, we've wasted six years. like we we need to get this 438 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:04,240 process started. We need to get this process on the on the on the ball and we 439 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:08,320 need a thorough update what you did in 2023. Let's let's have it thorough. 440 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:12,720 Let's expand it so that you can do the research on how we can get a master plan 441 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:17,119 done. That's what's important to me. Um it's important for me for us to protect 442 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:20,000 the people. Um like you said, um there are some people just as many people that 443 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,160 don't like data centers. There are people that are welcoming this this new 444 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:29,200 change in our economic landscape right now. And um even while they are like it, 445 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,880 while they want to do it, we still have a duty to protect them. Um even if it's 446 00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:37,200 something as simple as us just putting in a permitting process for industrial 447 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:41,839 permits, that at least gives us a voice because like Commissioner Burrell said, 448 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:46,880 these things are happening well above local and sometimes even state level. So 449 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:50,880 let's do what we can do. Let's do what we are charged to do. Let's do what we 450 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,200 all took oaths to do and let's work on what we can work on here. We don't have 451 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:59,040 to manipulate and twist law powers. We can actually put a plan in place so that 452 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:03,680 for the next 20 to 30 years, people are protected. People have something to 453 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,200 follow. You as a PCC has a document that you can refer to so that you all can 454 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:11,280 make decisions that are equitable and that are not just on a case-byase basis 455 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,480 where we're doing it for her, but we're not doing it for him because enough 456 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,680 people came and said they didn't like it. So, we're going to take that 457 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,920 pressure. No, we'll put that in place and so the next 20, 30 years, cattle 458 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,119 pair citizens can be protected. Thank you. 459 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,400 » Thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner 460 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Kraken, 461 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:33,839 » what's up, Jake? >> Hey, Mr. Krakman. Appreciate you coming 462 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:38,560 down and I appreciate the study. Uh, especially peer-reviewed study. Uh, that 463 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:44,960 means it wasn't just put together by Tik Tok conspiracy theorist. So, uh, 464 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:50,720 definitely be reading that. So, uh, more or less what what we're 465 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:57,119 saying is is that we would appreciate mitigations in the rural areas, uh, 466 00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:01,920 sound, light, things such as that as far as our nuisance codes go, and we could 467 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,440 follow and abide by that. And that would be a great compromise to the people not 468 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,040 wanting zoning because you have the citizens that that don't want zoning, 469 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,680 but they do want protection from industries, you know, no different than 470 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:22,400 a frack unit or a pump jack or something like that. U which protections have been 471 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:26,000 provided. Now, I I don't disagree uh with my other colleagues saying that 472 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:31,520 this should be taken to a state national level. That that's for certain. And um 473 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:37,200 and I certainly don't want to make it, you know, a political thing where, you 474 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:40,560 know, I think everybody assumes that we should go the same route as our 475 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,320 president and governor and all of this and and the truth is is most of us are 476 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:49,359 just trying to look at it from a common sense perspective and and protect our 477 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:57,200 citizens, albeit few. Um but the five mile boundary issues 478 00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:01,839 um have been around for six years. they do need to be whittleled down and and I 479 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,960 do think that that needs to be fixed and I I believe what was proposed and I 480 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:12,560 can't remember if it was myself or uh Commissioner John Paul Young 481 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:18,000 uh that wanted to take funding from the MPC to fund the master plan, a new 482 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,320 master plan, not completely defund them, but to help afford us the opportunity to 483 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:29,680 jump on board with either the Shreport initiative of or our own. And what we 484 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:33,359 all had kind of agreed to at that point was kind of a gentleman's agreement to 485 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:40,560 see if u now director Jean would be willing to 486 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:45,680 put in the work or if he would you know rather have us u sublet it to a 487 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,720 different company. So that's a question that we haven't asked yet. Of course, 488 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:54,480 you know, we still got plenty of time this year for budgeting, but we need to 489 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:59,119 fix the five mile radius, the buffer zone, and we need to talk about 490 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:06,000 mitigations around new industries. And uh like you, 491 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:13,359 my understanding is is that there's 300 acres on 169 and latex that has been 492 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:18,880 consumed by Invery to build a natural gas power plant. Uh I learned that today 493 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,640 right before walking in here. And so that's going to be a big deal. Uh that 494 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:26,880 that's a that would be a power plant twice the size of the one off of uh what 495 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,839 is that? North common. >> Mhm. 496 00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:34,640 » And so presumably to power the data centers and 497 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:38,640 return some energy to a know that they have a statewide deal for I think it was 498 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,119 like $4 billion or something like that working with one another. And so we 499 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,000 have, you know, yet another big industry that's going to go up adjacent to that 500 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:50,400 one. And we don't have very many mitigations aside from what the EPA and 501 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:55,920 the DEEQ have. >> And so I appreciate you separating the 502 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:59,839 two issues for us and uh and giving us a lot of experienced fact-based 503 00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:04,079 information. Looks like I'm the last one on the board. So if you have I got three 504 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:09,359 minutes if if you want to close out with anything. Yeah, I'll yield to you. 505 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:14,400 Yeah, I would just I know there's been some division on the board, but I I just 506 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:19,680 want to see y'all come together on this so that and yes, we are we do need to 507 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:25,599 talk to Baton Rouge also, but come together to try to 508 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:33,359 » Yes. in Congress to try to fix this, you know, and even if it's just some chapter 509 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:39,599 30 nuisance and some environmental committees to just slow it down, you 510 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:43,599 know, I mean, it could buy you time if you're planning on trying to do a master 511 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:48,160 plan in the rural area, you know, but I mean, you've got to get something on the 512 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,320 board because they're coming and they're coming fast and I just we're not in a 513 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:56,800 spot to stop it right now. We don't have 514 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:02,640 anything to. And that's why I just want to see y'all work together as a group to 515 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,440 try to see if we can get this fixed, you know, cuz I feel sorry for the people 516 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:08,960 that are going to live next to these things. So, it's just not going to be 517 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,040 good. And thank y'all. 518 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,599 » All right. Thank you. Hold on just one second. Yes, sir. 519 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,920 » It's been brought to my attention that I were very learned attorney. I would like 520 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:23,040 to >> not not 521 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:27,520 Okay. Uh I would just like to say that um 522 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:33,960 just to kind of clarify something. >> Yes sir. 523 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,960 » As as a researcher myself um 524 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:41,200 I think it's important um that we understand what the concept of peer 525 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:47,680 review really means. Peer review simply means that it's been 526 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:52,720 reviewed by the peers of the researcher. other researchers in that particular 527 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:56,000 field have also uh reviewed it. It doesn't mean that simply because 528 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:01,760 something is peer-reviewed that the peers agree with it. I I think that's 529 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:07,760 important to point out. Now I haven't read uh the study so I'm not here to say 530 00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:12,240 whether or not uh the peers agree with uh the analysis or the conclusions in 531 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:18,079 the study but I think that needs to be made very very clear. peer review does 532 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:23,440 not mean peer approved. Um, also I think it's important 533 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:28,400 at least from my point of view that when I decided to uh run for this office, I 534 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:33,119 had three priorities and three priorities alone. Public safety, 535 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:38,160 economic development, and quality of life. These particular areas of concern 536 00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:45,119 are not mutually exclusive. They should complement one another. And 537 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:50,400 as I talked about several weeks ago, um you know, as a very young man, 21, 22 538 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:58,880 years old, I lived uh in the one park area and Came was right next door to me 539 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:02,240 and my first child was born and I recall very vividly explosions going off in the 540 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:08,079 middle of the night, knocking us out of the bed. And we have literally thousands 541 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:12,560 of people who live in relative proximity of calimit in this community. And of 542 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:18,079 course we have hundreds of thousands of people in this area that are impacted 543 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:22,800 um by the very very hazardous carcinogens that are put out every day 544 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:26,720 by calimett. If anybody ever heard of benzene, they know what I'm talking 545 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:31,040 about. It's one of the most dangerous or cancercausing elements in the world. I 546 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:36,079 just think we ought to be careful. But I do I do think that as we approach 547 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:40,160 economic development and and it is very important economic 548 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,200 development. I think it's the reason why most people 549 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,200 are leaving our community is because of a lack of economic development. But at 550 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:51,520 the same time we do have to uh responsibly 551 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:56,880 assess economic development in terms of safety, 552 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:01,040 public safety. I think that's very important and I think that's what 553 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:05,839 everybody's trying to speak to. as to how safe this is. 554 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:11,359 I just think that it's rather precarious and irresponsible to only focus on one 555 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:16,480 industry. The reason why we put up with all this fracking, with all this 556 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,920 drilling these holes in the earth, I mean, have we ever had earthquakes in 557 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:25,760 this area before? Mm-m. I just think that 558 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,760 the reason why we put up with all that, all this with fracking and all this 559 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:36,400 explor oil exploration, it's because of the economic impact. There are a myriad 560 00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:41,599 of jobs. Um I think one of my peers who sit up here has a job that probably 561 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:46,319 wouldn't exist if it were not for Calumet. 562 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:51,599 And so the economic impact of the prochemical industry is widely known. I 563 00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:56,079 mean it produces trillions of dollars every year to the global economy. We see 564 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:03,280 what's happening to the global economy just just by the slowing down of um of 565 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:10,560 oil exploration and oil transportation through the port of Humus. And so even 566 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:16,319 though this is dangerous, I think that we need to weigh its dangers 567 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:21,680 in comparison to the economic impact. And I'll just close with this and I 568 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:28,079 would invite anybody to to Google this and Google anything that I say. Just 569 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:31,920 don't misrepresent what I say. The richest county in the United States 570 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,920 of America. I want to make sure I don't tear the 571 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,920 name up. 572 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:44,640 Is a county by the name of Lden County. It's in Virginia. Let me just read you 573 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:50,640 something real quick. In Laden County, there are 250 574 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:56,079 operational developing data centers. It's affectionately known as data center 575 00:45:53,520 --> 00:46:02,800 alley. It has the largest concentration of data centers on the planet. On the 576 00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:06,200 planet, richest county in America. This is the income. 577 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:14,400 Excuse me. The medium income there 578 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:19,400 is between $150 to $175,000 a year. 579 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:27,520 When we were in Virginia, we were informed that the minimum wage because 580 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:32,000 of the cost of living there is $100,000. That's what they start them out with at 581 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:36,800 data centers. And so I can really appreciate the concern because I know 582 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:42,480 the concern is real that people have for data centers. 583 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:46,960 But what you have to also understand, it's not that I'm not listening to them 584 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:52,560 to their complaints about the prospects of the data center. But you have to 585 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:58,000 understand why I'm here. I'm here because when the power goes out in the 586 00:46:55,119 --> 00:47:03,359 dead of summer, that little baby is in that bedroom crying because they're hot 587 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:07,440 and sweating in that house because their mama or their daddy can't buy a backup 588 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:14,160 generator. I'm here because this lady is having to 589 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:19,520 live with her family in a roachinfested house in dilapidated housing and there 590 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:25,280 are no jobs there. that's no way that she can enjoy social mobility. I'm here 591 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,520 for people who really want a high standard of living. And so that's what I 592 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:34,000 have to that's what I have to consider when I think about data centers versus 593 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:38,720 the public hazards that may accompany it. And for me, as someone who's been 594 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:44,160 researching this, ever since I was first introduced to it back in November of 595 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:48,480 last year, the jury is still out. The jury is still out. One thing we do know 596 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:53,440 and most of most reasonable people can agree to and that is the prochemical 597 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,760 industry is very very dangerous and very very hazardous to all of us. Why do we 598 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,280 put up with it? Because we're not willing to park our cars. We're not 599 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:05,200 willing to do away with our air conditioners. And and the only thing I 600 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,720 and I never said anybody should throw away their cell phones or staff for 601 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:14,000 their cell phones. What I'm saying is that data centers are a reality in our 602 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:18,720 lives because there is a demand for data centers. I think it's ironic that the 603 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:23,760 very same people who do all the protesting and that is within their 604 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:28,240 right to protest. I'm all for protest. I'm all for expressing disagreement with 605 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:32,240 government. Anybody who follow me, they know that I'm not I'm not ashamed and 606 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,960 I'm not constrained in terms of my criticism about government. But my 607 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:41,680 problem is be consistent. Be consistent. You can't stay off of 608 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,440 social media barking at data centers. That's just too 609 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:51,520 ironic to me. If you stay off of social media, maybe there wouldn't be such a 610 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:55,599 demand for data centers. But I digress. I really appreciate you coming forward. 611 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:59,920 Um I I I didn't think that this would continue to be a discussion or debate 612 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:04,000 almost a year after this idea was first introduced to this community, but uh I'm 613 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:08,960 I imagine that it it's not going to end today. But I do appreciate you coming uh 614 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,800 before uh here. I know that on occasion you sit behind here with the PCC and I 615 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,240 do appreciate the work you've been doing. Thank you very much for coming, 616 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,559 Mr. >> Thank you, Mr. Brown. 617 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:22,720 » All right. Uh let's see. Before we move to our next guest, uh I just want to 618 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:28,319 take this opportunity uh to bring a little bit more levity to um our uh 619 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:33,599 meeting. Uh that beautiful young lady uh with the blue jean jacket and with the 620 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:38,160 yellow shirt on is arguably inarguably one of my favorite people on the whole 621 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:43,440 wide world. And if you guess she kind of look like me. Uh that is my middle 622 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:47,839 daughter. Um, I love her. I would I would die for her. Uh, give her a 623 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:52,079 kidney. Uh, she's someone that I I tell you, I I would paint the sky if I could 624 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,760 for her. And I'm just so happy uh that she's here today in the audience. Will 625 00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:56,760 you please stand? 626 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,160 » Just just give her more money. She'll be happy. 627 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:08,319 » Well, thank you so much, Torculin. And also, she's the mother of my grand my 628 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:13,359 grandchild. So, hey, y'all y'all y'all let me out of this moment. Okay. Uh now 629 00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:18,160 at this time I want to invite um one of my um very very uh distinguished uh 630 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,559 constituents uh who would like to come up and make a presentation. Mr. Irma 631 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,559 Rogers 632 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,079 Good afternoon. >> Afternoon, 633 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:55,680 » President Young, Vice President Thomas, other commissioners, Mrs. Erica Bryant, 634 00:50:51,119 --> 00:51:00,079 and staff. Thank you for this time. The folders that you're receiving right 635 00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:06,240 now will have a copy of the bellshaped curve 636 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:13,119 in its simplicity, not in its standard form for statistics 637 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:19,359 for what I attempt to present to you today. And also a copy of school 638 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:25,880 closures, a condensed version of what happens to black and brown communities 639 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,880 from school closures. 640 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,839 Does everybody have a folder? 641 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:38,960 Thank you. If you look at the bellshaped curve in 642 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:44,160 your folder and you'll notice 643 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:48,480 at the very far left you see excellent performance above 644 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:55,920 expectations in the middle meets expectations and on the right side below 645 00:51:52,559 --> 00:52:00,240 expectations serious underperformance. This curve has been the standard for 646 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:04,720 over a hundred years. concerning education 647 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:11,760 and looking at what our children are being asked to do. Now, I bring this up 648 00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:17,760 because in 2021, the MLKCDC instituted summer basics program and we do receive 649 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:22,079 funds from this body to help us with our tutors and summer basics and other 650 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,920 programs that we run in terms of education. 651 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:31,200 So now none of our schools were like F 652 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:36,559 with the last reading. Now there are some new scores going to be coming out, 653 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:44,160 but all of our schools came up at least to a D status. Uh, one high school, 654 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:49,520 Green Oaks, is B. Not only are they B, they scored in the top 50 of high 655 00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:55,839 schools in the United States for CLIP, the college level entry program test. 656 00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:01,280 they scored at that level last year. This was reported in November. 657 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:07,440 So, I wanted to bring that up to just let you know how hard we try to work 658 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:12,640 with our schools after instituting summer basics where we put in place and 659 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:17,280 we had a full month at that time in 2021. Since that time, we've not had 660 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,520 that because the school board takes the first couple of weeks of June to run 661 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:25,359 summer programming. So we have to take the last couple of weeks. So we only 662 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:29,520 have about nine to 10 days to run it now. Okay. 663 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:33,599 But the state superintendent Dr. Kate Bramley reported 2023 when he came to 664 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:38,480 St. Mary College here and I was in attendance that Louisiana has come up 665 00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:44,480 from the bottom from 49. We were up to 42 and I think we up to like 38 now or 666 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:50,160 32. I don't know the most current but we came up to like 42 in a couple of years. 667 00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:54,800 He said this was based on going back to the basics, teaching phonics, not the 668 00:53:52,800 --> 00:54:00,079 phonics of the 40s and the 50s, but what we did in the 80s and the 90s that 669 00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:06,880 helped to gradually bring these up. My question to him at that time, February 670 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:14,319 2023, was are you going to mandate this for all of our parishes? His answer is 671 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:20,720 no, they cannot. Each local school board governs what goes on in that parish. And 672 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:27,760 the same about mathematics. Going back to the old 100 fact 673 00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:34,559 pages that we use for students, 100 problems and teaching the basic facts, 674 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:42,559 those kinds of things. But just just to put into focus what's happened within 675 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:48,400 our communities, let me name for you the schools that have closed in the past 20 676 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:53,839 plus years. Jack P. Timmons, Ingresol, Union Street, Pier Avenue, also known as 677 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:59,119 George P. Hendricks, Laurel Street, Central Elementary, West Shreport 678 00:54:55,839 --> 00:55:06,720 Elementary, Newton Smith, Stona Hill, Hillsdale, Queensboro, Sunset Acres, 679 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:13,040 Warner Park, Fair Park, 81st Street, and Blanchard. Repurposed Laneir North Side. 680 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:20,880 North Side is now inside of Lenir School, Bthoon Oak Park, and Morttown 681 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:26,000 really is at an impass right now. that's supposed to be turned over for another 682 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:30,640 housing project. At any rate, all of these schools total up 19 schools and 683 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,920 these are primarily within the black and brown communities. 684 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:41,040 This sheet will tell you what happens when you close the schools in our black 685 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:45,760 and brown communities. It means getting up so early. 686 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,640 It means not being able to stay for tutoring because your bus is going to be 687 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:54,799 so late. you might not get home until after 6:00 in the evening and then you 688 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:59,359 have to get food and rest and get up the next day and do it all over again. So I 689 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:05,680 wanted to call that to your attention and just to make you aware that with 690 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:11,440 them moving we reached the targets got all the schools up at least out of F 691 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:18,799 category some to B Category etc. And then now students are being able being 692 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:24,000 asked to do mastery and advance. It's as if the center of this curve where you 693 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,160 see most of the students even if you think back when you were in school how 694 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:34,799 many children were in your class of say 25 or 30 students that were all A and B. 695 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:41,359 Were they all A and B students? I don't think so. Even in college, you can 696 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:47,040 graduate with a college degree with a C average. 697 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:54,160 So, think about what Bessie and the State Department is asking us to do. 698 00:56:51,359 --> 00:57:00,079 My reason for bringing it to this this commission is if possible, 699 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:04,880 please call this to the attention of the Bessie board and any of our state 700 00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:09,680 education department persons that you might know or our state legislators 701 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,799 because where will it end? You want everybody to be an A student. 702 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:24,160 This whole world is not designed like that. By and large, if you look at it, 703 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:28,400 most people fall within the C or average range. 704 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:34,079 You have a few people who are exceptional. You have a few people who 705 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:39,839 really need special needs services, but everyone is not A and B. 706 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,960 So, you're asking teachers to teach and to do things with not one hand, now with 707 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:50,480 two hands tied behind their backs. And then the resources, many of the 708 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:55,760 resources that were needed within our schools, our community would help to 709 00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:00,799 provide because they're not presently there. We 710 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:05,359 found this out with the pandemic in 2020. 711 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:09,119 when we saw the digital divide firsthand. When we had children in my 712 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,799 neighborhood sitting in front of the library just for internet access and not 713 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:19,119 through any fault of their own, one of the apartment complexes had some kind of 714 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:23,599 a beam that ran up in it that would not allow 715 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:30,559 the service to come through. So, children had to learn however best they 716 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:35,920 could learn. So resources are a big determining factor in what happens in 717 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:39,920 those classrooms. I think I've taken up enough of your time. Please let me know 718 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:46,240 if you have any questions. You can have all the information and 719 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:52,559 we are proud of what our teachers have been doing with the funds that you give 720 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:57,520 us and we give them because they have made changes. But we're asking them now 721 00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:01,680 to make every child an A and B student. That's why I bought the curve. 722 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,599 » Question. >> Let's see. The chair recognizes 723 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:09,599 Commissioner Ken Eperson. >> M. Rogers. Have you made this 724 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:16,000 presentation to the school board? >> No, sir. I I have not. I felt like 725 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:21,119 coming here first because basically my understanding cat the schools really are 726 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:24,960 part of the parish and you are the parish commission. 727 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,559 Am I correct? >> Oh, but are you going to make the 728 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,280 presentation to the school board? I think you should. 729 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,440 » I can make the presentation, but I wanted to come here first. 730 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,520 » Thank you. >> Thank Thank you for your question, 731 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:44,720 Commissioner Ken Epson. Um, is there anyone else has a question? This 732 00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:49,920 recognizes Commissioner Robert. Just a followup uh statement that uh 733 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:54,319 Commissioner Eper said and and your statement about the school being in the 734 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,680 parish. You're right about that, but we has we have no jurisdiction to 735 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:03,760 understand over the school board. Now, we we can 736 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:07,599 advocate or complain and protest just as you. But I don't think we have any 737 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:11,200 direct authority. I know we don't fund them. Commission does. Am I correct, Mr. 738 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,599 President? >> Yes, sir. 739 01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:16,000 » So, I just wanted to make that observation. 740 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:21,559 » I understand a lot of their funding comes from our very tax dollars. 741 01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:21,559 » Yeah. 742 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:29,680 » Yeah. Just one continuation on this. It's interesting that you would bring 743 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:35,839 this because um I had an experience when I was in the legislature 744 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:44,880 uh when we started applying grades to schools A B C D so forth. So, I thought 745 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:50,160 I was uh be smart enough to go and get a fourth grade and an eighth grade LEAP 746 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:54,559 test and take a portion of it from the fourth grade LEAP test and the eighth 747 01:00:52,319 --> 01:01:01,119 grade leap test uh and introduce it to my colleagues 748 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:07,119 uh there in the educational on the educational committee uh to let them 749 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:12,799 know that I didn't think that the the grades that they were applying to school 750 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:16,720 really was applicable. So I gave I decided to 751 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:21,920 take a portion of the fourth grade and the eighth grade LEAP test and give it 752 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:28,000 to my colleagues in the legislature. Don't you know they asked me to leave as 753 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:31,440 a legisl as the legislator because when they looked at it they realized that 754 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:36,880 they couldn't fill it out. They could not u answer the questions. So it it it 755 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:44,240 really to me brought to the forefront that 756 01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:50,400 sometimes we as public officials make these rules 757 01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:55,440 that we have no idea of what's in them. And and uh I think that was a perfect 758 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:59,920 example. I politely got up and walked out 759 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:07,599 uh uh of the committee, but I proved my point. So again, I I you know, this kind 760 01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,680 of br that back to life for me. Thank you, Mr. President. 761 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:13,920 » Thank you. Thank you for your observations. Commissioner, uh the chair 762 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:17,599 recognizes Commissioner John Atkins. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Miss Rogers, 763 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:21,200 thanks for coming down to visit with us. Thank you for choosing Cattle Parish 764 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,720 Commission First to meet with. You're always welcome to visit with us and we 765 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,319 were glad to see you today. Thank you. >> Thank you. 766 01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:32,559 » Thank you. Thank you for that observation and and that uh that mention 767 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:36,400 commissioner. Um I I I too I think it's important that you came to us today. Oh, 768 01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:39,839 I apologize. The chair recognizes Commissioner Ron Cotton. 769 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:45,440 » Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Rogers, thank you very much for this information 770 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:49,040 because as a citizen of Cattle Parish, I think we've all heard about school 771 01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:53,040 closures and we've heard different things about it. But, you know, the 772 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:58,640 presentation that you made today uh kind of solidifies some things that I have 773 01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:08,079 always thought uh as a former educator. I have never seen as many schools close 774 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:13,599 in a parish county as I have till I came back home. And the thing about it going 775 01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:21,760 forward, it's not just Carol Parish schools. it's elected officials and 776 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:26,880 parents must acknowledge what is or could be going on as well. Uh because 777 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:31,039 again every child learns at his or her own pace. That's the first thing and a 778 01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:34,079 lot of people forget that uh the kids you might not be excelling in the first 779 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:38,240 grade but you know by the time you get fifth sixth grade you just take off and 780 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:41,520 it happens a whole bunch. So going forward, I think the most important 781 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,440 thing is that we just must share this information throughout our community so 782 01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:50,240 everybody's on the same sheet of music or have a opportunity to understand it 783 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:53,599 if they choose to. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. 784 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:58,880 » Thank you. And and again, Mr. Rogers, um your passion for public education is uh 785 01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:03,440 very well known and really do appreciate you coming to us today. Look forward to 786 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,880 uh future presentations that you come to make to this body. Thank you very much. 787 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:10,960 » Thank you for allowing me the time. Right, 788 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:17,599 Mr. Click, where are we? >> Okay, that uh so just uh for the record, 789 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:22,480 I think that was um maybe like kind of a a president's report item that that we 790 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,960 took up under visitors. Um so that brings us back to adopting regular 791 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:32,319 session minutes um where you do have both the regular 792 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:37,680 session minutes and the um special session uh meeting from August 28th. 793 01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:40,960 » All right. The chair rec well the mo there's been a motion by commissioner 794 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:44,160 Victor Thomas and a second by commissioner Ron Cland. 795 01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:48,079 » Thank you Mr. President. I'd like to make a motion to adopt the minutes of 796 01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:52,079 the August 20th regular session. The minutes of the August 28th cattle 797 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:58,920 commission special session meeting um the special resolution section and I'll 798 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,920 stop right there. 799 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:05,599 the whole special >> the whole special resolution section 800 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:12,079 » to include any presentations or any comments by any commissioners. 801 01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:17,920 » Okay. So that goes all the way down to communication. 802 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:22,480 » Right. Okay. All right. Um let's see. Commissioner uh Cochman, would you like 803 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:26,400 to speak on that? Are you good? >> Thank you, Mr. President. I'm good 804 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,920 because uh yeah, I'm good. Thank you. >> Uh let's see. The chair recognizes 805 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:35,119 Commissioner Ken Eperson. >> Uh, Mr. President, I'd like for the uh 806 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:39,839 special resolution for the Miles family reunion to be read in the record and 807 01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:42,559 I'll present it to them in October at the family reunion which be held in 808 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,119 Cattle Parish. >> Okay. Well, just to be clear, you want 809 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:48,720 the clerk to read into the record today? >> Yes. Yes, sir. 810 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:52,799 » Okay. Um, would it be appropriate to read into the record prior to voting on 811 01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,760 it, Mr. Clerk, or should we do the vote on all of it then? I think it might be 812 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,359 most appropriate to do the vote first and then we can read it into the record 813 01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:01,520 and then do any other presentations at that point. 814 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,520 » Okay. Well, thank you. All right. Let's vote. 815 01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:14,079 » Thank you all. And that motion carries unanimously with uh nine in support, 816 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:20,960 none in opposition, and three absent. Uh and at this point, I can um read that uh 817 01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:24,559 resolution into the record. And I have it right here. 818 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:33,039 Um, as well as, uh, I believe the only other special resolution that we have, 819 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:38,000 uh, is going to be for, uh, some of our staff members who, uh, may be making 820 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:43,440 their way up shortly. Um, but this is the special resolution for the Miles 821 01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:46,960 family. Uh and it reads uh whereas the Cat Parish Commission is pleased to 822 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:51,359 recognize the Miles family reunion and celebrate a family whose enduring bonds, 823 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:55,760 cherished traditions, and shared history have united generations for more than a 824 01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:59,440 century and where the foundation of this remarkable family legacy was uh 825 01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:04,559 strengthened through a loving marriage established on December 12th, 1912. a 826 01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:08,880 union characterized by devotion, perseverance, faith, and unwavering 827 01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:14,480 determination to build a family rooted in pride and purpose. Whereas from that 828 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:19,200 union came 12 children, seven sons and five daughters who became anchors, 829 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:23,599 teachers, protectors, and sources of inspiration within the family, carrying 830 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,119 forward the principles instilled in them and helping to create a living history 831 01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:32,640 that continues through their descendants. Whereas the family 832 01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:37,520 established a home upon 11.5 acres along Mount Mount Olive Church Road uh and the 833 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:42,000 treasured property has remained within the family for more than 113 years with 834 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:47,680 members of the family continuing to reside upon the land today. Whereas the 835 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:52,160 ancestral homestead stands as a lasting bridge between past and present, a place 836 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:57,280 of comfort, belonging, and remembrance that continues to welcome family members 837 01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:02,799 home. Even succeeding generations have established lives in their communities 838 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:06,720 miles away, many miles away. Whereas through changing times and across 839 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:11,440 generations, the Miles family ancestors and elders have served as mentors, quiet 840 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:16,000 supporters, and faithful guardians of the family, offering boundless love, 841 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:20,239 courageous leadership, and unwavering guidance that have held the family 842 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:24,880 together through hardship and triumph. Whereas the devotion to prayer, service, 843 01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:28,080 generosity, and mutual care has enriched not only the lives of their descendants, 844 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:32,719 but also the communities in which members of the Miles family have lived, 845 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:37,359 worked, worshiped, and served. Whereas by passing down invaluable traditions, 846 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:41,600 cultural heritage, family stories, spiritual values, and essential life 847 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:46,239 lessons, the elders of the Miles family created a legacy that continues to 848 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:49,440 sustain and inspire each new generation. And whereas the Miles family reunion 849 01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:53,120 provides a meaningful opportunity for relatives to return to their roots, 850 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:57,040 honor those who came before them, strengthen existing relationships, 851 01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:00,799 welcome younger generations into the family's living history, and renew the 852 01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:05,040 commitment to preserving the legacy entrusted to their care. And whereas the 853 01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:09,040 Kaparish Commission recognizes that strong families are essential to strong 854 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:13,199 communities and commen commends the Miles family for preserving the love, 855 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,199 faith, resilience, and unity that have remained hallmarks of their family for 856 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,319 generation. Now therefore, be it resolved that the Cat Parish Commission 857 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:25,199 does hereby recognize and congratulate the Miles family upon the celebration of 858 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:30,319 its family reunion in Kado Parish from October 9th to October 11th, 2026 and 859 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:34,319 extends its sincere wishes for a joyous and memorable gathering filled with 860 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:37,600 fellowship, reflection, gratitude, and renewed family bonds. Be it for the 861 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:41,839 resolve that the cutter commission honors the memory and sacrifices of the 862 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:45,520 Miles family ancestors, celebrates the generations who continue their legacy, 863 01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:49,759 and encourages the family to remain steadfast in preserving its traditions, 864 01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:54,560 strengthening its connections, and sharing its remarkable history with 865 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,560 generations to come. >> Okay. 866 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:05,199 Commissioner um Ken Epson, >> Mr. President, I wanted to have that 867 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:10,400 read in the record today. uh plan to have uh family members present today. 868 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,560 However, one of the members uh passed upon last week and they're going to be 869 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:17,920 funeralizing him this Saturday. >> Uh so they won't be able to attend. So 870 01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:18,960 that's why I wanted to do that. >> All right. Thank you. 871 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:26,800 » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Great job, sir. 872 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:30,800 » Okay. Then we have h we have resolution and appreciation for 873 01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:33,840 » at this point we have a yeah we are uh have a resolution of recognition 874 01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:39,679 honoring Tom Fannon and Charles Mccclure. If uh Tom and Chucky could 875 01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:46,239 make their way up that would be great. I believe they'll be joined by 876 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:51,120 Jacobs Paulo and maybe other members of uh facilities crew might be uh coming as 877 01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:54,640 well. I'll begin by reading it into the record. It reads, "Whereas the Cat 878 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:59,120 Parish Commission takes great pride in recognizing those public servants whose 879 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:03,760 faithful work, professional expertise, and personal commitment have contributed 880 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:08,159 immeasurably to the effective operations of parish government. And whereas Tom 881 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:11,280 Fannon and Charles Mccclure are retiring from the Cat Parish facilities and 882 01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:15,600 maintenance department following distinguished careers as audiovisisual 883 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:19,679 engineers during which they provided decades of exceptional service to the 884 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,199 parish of Kado and most especially to the Kato Parish Commission. Throughout 885 01:11:21,679 --> 01:11:26,320 their career, Tom and Charles have worked diligently behind the scenes to 886 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:31,360 ensure that the proceedings of the commission could be her could be clearly 887 01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:35,600 heard, accurately recorded, reliably preserved, and made accessible to the 888 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:39,679 citizens of Katau Parish. And whereas their years of service have spanned an 889 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:44,000 extraordinary period of technological transformation in which public meetings 890 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:48,800 progressed from traditional microphones, analog recordings, and limited 891 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:52,880 broadcasts to digital audio and video, internet streaming, video on demand, 892 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:57,360 teleconferencing, mobile devices, and immediate public access across multiple 893 01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:01,840 platforms. And whereas each advancement brought new equipment, new expectations, 894 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:05,360 and new challenges, requiring Tom and Charles to continually adapt their 895 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,600 knowledge, develop innovative solutions, and respond promptly to the rapidly 896 01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:14,000 evolving needs of commissioners, parish employees, and members of the media and 897 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:17,360 public. And whereas citizens increasingly came to expect convenient 898 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,960 and immediate access to their government, Tom and Charles played an 899 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:24,719 essential role in helping the commission expand transparency, public 900 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:28,400 participation, and accessibility by ensuring that meetings could reach 901 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,480 constituents both inside and beyond the walls of Government Plaza. And whereas 902 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:36,320 through countless commission meetings, committee sessions, public hearings, 903 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:40,000 special events, presentations, and teleconferences, they could be relied 904 01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:43,679 upon to make certain that microphones were working, presentations were 905 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:47,840 visible, broadcasts were available, recordings were preserved, and 906 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:51,840 unexpected technical difficulties were resolved. Whereas the success of their 907 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:56,159 work was often measured by how seamlessly each meeting proceeded, yet 908 01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:00,719 beyond the apparent ease where years of experience, careful preparation, 909 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:05,120 technical skill, patience, and abiding commitment to getting the job done. 910 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:08,719 Whereas Tom and Charles met with the pressure of live public meetings and 911 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:12,960 constant technological challenges with dependability, good humor, calm 912 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:16,960 professionalism, and a willingness to assist whenever and wherever they were 913 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:20,719 needed. And whereas their service extended far beyond equipment and 914 01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:24,320 technology, for they became trusted colleagues and valued members of the 915 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:28,320 parish family, whose personalities, friendship, institutional knowledge, and 916 01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:32,239 reassuring presence will be deeply missed. Whereas Tom Fannon and Charles 917 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:36,080 Mccclure prepare to begin their well-earned retirements, the Kat Parish 918 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,360 Commission desires that they know how greatly their service has been valued 919 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,960 and how sincerely their many contributions are appreciated. Now 920 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:47,440 therefore be it resolved that by the Katy Parish Commission does hereby 921 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:52,560 recognize and commend Tom Fannon and Charles Mccclure for their decades of 922 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:55,600 dedicated service as uh with the Cat Parish facilities and maintenance 923 01:13:53,760 --> 01:14:01,320 department and for their indispensable support of the commission and the 924 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,320 citizens of Kado Parish. 925 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,600 Click 926 01:14:53,760 --> 01:15:01,440 Well, as calm and soft spoken as I am, some of you all get that they still 927 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:06,159 decided to let me speak. You know, it's hard to believe it's been 928 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:09,920 this many years. It really is. But as I look around, there's like three faces, 929 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,480 maybe four faces I see that were here when both of us started, which lets me 930 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:18,560 know how far we have. I mean, how much things have changed. 931 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:24,960 It's just hard to believe it's been that many years. It It doesn't seem like it. 932 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:28,000 I mean, it's weird. We started in the courthouse on the fourth floor, which is 933 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:32,719 where the commission meeting started before we moved into here. And this was 934 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:38,320 all hightech when we got here. And if you look at what it was then and what it 935 01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:42,400 is now, it's two completely different. But the neat thing is the team has 936 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:46,719 stayed pretty well cohesive. I mean, everybody, it's amazing to me we can 937 01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:51,440 attract the caliber of people that we do and hang on to them for as long as we do 938 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:55,040 because a normal job, you know, you go, you don't go somewhere for 25 years 939 01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:58,960 anymore. You may go two or three and then you jump somewhere else and, you 940 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:04,560 know, it's just unusual that that happens. And it's 941 01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:11,360 I don't know. It started after like 15 years, it started feeling like home. 942 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:17,760 » And it's which is scary, but that's just No, I'm out of stuff to say. And I 943 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:22,400 said I'd keep it clean. And I know all the deputies, so they're 944 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:25,280 not going to throw me out of here. >> Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 945 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,440 » All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. 946 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:36,480 It's a bit surreal for us to be on this side of the cameras, so bear with us. 947 01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:41,440 But like Tom said, uh, we I started filming the meetings back in 1997, and I 948 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:46,000 know Commissioner Eper remembers. It was on video cassette tape, fourth floor of 949 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:50,000 the courthouse. It's now a courtroom. Uh, and then Tom and I was talking the 950 01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:55,360 other day. We calculated that we have filmed over 1,500 commission meetings in 951 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:58,159 our career. episode, and this is the last one for us. So, we 952 01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,480 thank y'all. >> All right. Thank you very much. 953 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:06,000 Look, you know, you know what I'm thinking? 954 01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:10,239 Um, you know, we we just really start 955 01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:15,679 getting it uh the the technology right and now y'all leaving. 956 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:20,320 Well, thank you all so much. Um, they said we're going to kind of go, I guess, 957 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:24,880 in a little bit in reverse. um uh your your CEO uh even though she's not first 958 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:29,440 on the board. I know it's only because she didn't hit on it first, but I I 959 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,960 think um u my colleagues wouldn't mind if she went first. Um Madam 960 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:39,679 Administrator, >> yes, thank you. I just wanted to say to 961 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:45,199 um Tom and Charles um on behalf of administration, thank you. Um, you all 962 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:49,440 have, I mean, the commissioners may not know the level of effort and level of 963 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:52,159 time you all put into your work, not just only for commission meetings, but 964 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,440 what you're doing every day in day in and day out. I know I've had to speak to 965 01:17:54,080 --> 01:18:00,400 both of you all at some point and sometimes during the hours, after hours, 966 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:04,480 and you're always available. You are those unsung heroes that are working 967 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:08,960 behind the scenes and people may not know um the level of work that you're 968 01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:13,040 doing on behalf of Cattle Parish and behalf of Cattle Parish citizens. And 969 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:17,280 for that I want to um thank you. I want to wish you the best in your retirement 970 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:20,480 and know that we will miss you and anytime Kettle Parish can be of 971 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:26,280 assistance to you, we're right here ready for so enjoy your retirement. 972 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,280 Thank you. 973 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:35,199 that chair recognizes Commissioner Ken Everson. 974 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:44,560 » U my partner Charles, we go way back to Brookers on West 85th and Lynwood Avenue 975 01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:49,440 even before uh you got hired here. Uh I was starting my community activism out 976 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:54,480 there and we worked uh with Brookers as far as community meetings and 977 01:18:52,239 --> 01:19:01,679 always had a respect for you. you could always see your personality 978 01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:07,840 uh from working there at Brooks. And as I went on down the road and got hired on 979 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:13,199 the commission, uh you came aboard. And uh Brother Tom, there I didn't realize 980 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:16,719 you were so articulate with words. You quiet, but you you did you did pretty 981 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:23,600 good. I'm I'm going to put you on the public speaking circuit now time. And uh 982 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:29,280 I call them the dynamic duo. you know, I I did things a little different. Uh 983 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:33,520 started the community meetings uh out in the community, brought the entire parish 984 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:40,080 government to the communities, and those two gentlemen was out there to record 985 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:43,760 video um community ebony center, Cedar Grove. Some of you may not know what 986 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:48,320 that is. That's the O&P store that Miss Gloria Harrison bought. And that's where 987 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:54,640 we start our first community meetings out in out in Cedar Grove uh with 988 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:58,880 Greenwood, Bethany, everywhere. And you all were there, the Rose Center always 989 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:04,960 with your technology. And we appreciate you uh so very much. And uh your 990 01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:09,920 attitudes have been uh you know just just phenomenal. And if if more 991 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:14,719 employees were like you too, gentlemen, uh we will be even better than we are 992 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:19,360 today. And uh once again, if there's anything I can do, you know, we always 993 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:23,920 ask, "How's your wives doing? How's your families doing?" We know each other like 994 01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:30,080 that. So feel free to call on me at any any time. And thank you very much. 995 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:34,640 » Thank you, Commissioner. The chair recognizes Commissioner John. 996 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:39,520 » Thank you, Mr. President. Um, Charles and Tom, I really can't say anything 997 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,560 different or in addition to what Miss Bryant said and what Commissioner 998 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,960 Jefferson said, but we sure have enjoyed having you all all these years. We hate 999 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:50,640 to see you go, but everybody, you certainly have earned the right to uh to 1000 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:55,360 explore other avenues and new adventures. But I'll miss seeing you 1001 01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:59,600 guys as I leave at the end of a meeting and uh and getting feedback and 1002 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,800 commentary. And that was all part of my routine. So, I'm going to have to find 1003 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:07,440 some new some are y'all going to be y'all going to hang out after meetings. 1004 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,360 But thank you all for all you've done and uh I I wish you all all the 1005 01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:13,040 happiness and success in your in your retirements. 1006 01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:18,480 » Thank you, Mr. President. >> Thank you, Commissioner Atkins. Uh the 1007 01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:21,600 chair recognizes Commissioner Ron Cth. >> Thank you, Mr. President. I would just 1008 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:26,719 like to say congratulations to the both of you all. Even though I wasn't here 1009 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:32,159 when you started, it's really uh gives me a very happy feeling seeing the 1010 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,280 amount of time, the amount of effort, and particularly for those that can go 1011 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,199 back with you all because I'm sure you've seen a lot of people come and go 1012 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:43,199 during your particular times. And the most important thing is that you're able 1013 01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:46,640 to walk out of here and be able to do some of the things that you've been 1014 01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:49,920 putting off for years. And again, I thank you for this opportunity. I thank 1015 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:53,600 for the handshakes, the hells, and the goodbyes and things of this nature. 1016 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:58,080 Please don't stop coming by every now and then. Thank you very much. It's my 1017 01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:01,280 pleasure meeting you both. >> All right. Thank you, Commissioner. 1018 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,840 Appreciate those remarks. Uh, Commissioner John Paul Young, the chair 1019 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:07,360 recognizes you, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. President. 1020 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:11,920 Congratulations to both of you. Uh, I'll miss you. I'll miss the cheerful 1021 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:16,000 greeting that you always give me when I sneak in that back door with sometimes 1022 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:20,159 with butterflies in my stomach about the meeting or sometimes just, you know, 1023 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:25,679 walking in and I'll I'll miss saying goodbye to you when I sneak out early or 1024 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:29,679 when I leave on time. And uh >> I know you never you never tell him, but 1025 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:34,000 you record it all. And the thing that I always think of when I when I pass by 1026 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:39,520 you guys is and uh it's like from the Wizard of Oz when when they say pay no 1027 01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:42,960 attention to the man behind the curtain because it feels like you know sometimes 1028 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,480 you're in total control of the whole room. It's like we can't even have a 1029 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:50,080 meeting if you're not there. So I really appreciate all the work you've done. 1030 01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:53,920 It's been um it's been a pleasure to get to know you a little bit and I hope you 1031 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:58,719 have a wonderful retirement. I hope you'll stick around in Shreport and Cat 1032 01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:01,679 Parish. But if you decide to, you know, go somewhere else, I hope you have a 1033 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:06,239 wonderful journey and a great retirement. Thank you. 1034 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:10,159 » Thank you, Commissioner Young. The chair recognizes Commissioner Victor Thomas. 1035 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:14,159 » Thank you, um, Mr. President. Um, I'll speak for the new faces, um, on the 1036 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,880 board. Um, thank you all for congratulations on your retirement and 1037 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:22,560 thank you for the work that you guys have done. um as a millennial I didn't 1038 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:26,719 know um I I see them all the times but I wasn't as well verssed about the fact 1039 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:30,320 that we offer our meetings online and um I don't think um like Commissioner John 1040 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:34,560 Paul Young said you know this doesn't just happen by us it's like literally a 1041 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,840 whole team of individuals um that are led by you all that produce these 1042 01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:42,239 meetings um you guys did a great job last Friday and you can produce these 1043 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:46,080 meetings here or everywhere anywhere um in the land of Oz wherever we want to do 1044 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:50,560 them you guys make it happen so um congratulations on that And um like I 1045 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:54,400 say um a lot of people and I try to um bring a lot of attention to that that 1046 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:57,920 you guys um so dutifully post the meetings um online that they're 1047 01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:02,320 available for citizens to watch on there. Um so and I I like to let people 1048 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:06,320 know that we are a digital, you know, commission body and you can access us um 1049 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:09,040 on the website and on the things. So I know that you guys had a heavy hand in 1050 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,600 making that happen and making it continue to go. So congratulations. I 1051 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:17,600 hope the quality doesn't fail now that y'all are leaving to Commissioner Eris's 1052 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:20,400 point, but um we know that you guys have left, you know, blueprint so that 1053 01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:24,080 whoever follows behind are going to be able to follow and they have some big 1054 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:29,360 shoes to fill. So, congratulations. >> Right. Thank you, Commissioner. Uh the 1055 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:34,719 chair recognizes Commissioner Rob Bell. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Again, I want 1056 01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:38,400 to congratulate Jaws and uh and Tom on their retirement. 1057 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:44,159 I was around when we first came to this building. We used to uh um I was on the 1058 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:48,320 city council. I was a part of uh of helping set up the technology here 1059 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:55,440 because I was a telecommunication engineer during that time and on Texas 1060 01:24:51,280 --> 01:25:00,480 Street. We had no uh technology over there. We just shouted out what we 1061 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:04,480 needed into the audience. But it but uh when we set it up over here, it's it's 1062 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:11,760 it's a lot better than it was when we started. So I I can contribute that to 1063 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:18,159 you guys. Um I I met you after I had had uh come upon the uh the commission but 1064 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:22,960 um but you must be pretty brilliant to get into technology and learn it on your 1065 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:30,360 own unless you actually went and studied it somewhere. So I I admire you for 1066 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:30,360 that. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 1067 01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:42,719 I I had the benefit um the privilege um of retiring from federal service for 1068 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:46,560 almost 34 years. And um it's difficult sometimes for me to really comprehend 1069 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:51,760 the fact that I've been retired for 18 years. And so I kind of know what it's 1070 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:56,560 like to have a long career. Um but I can assure you that there's a second act in 1071 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:59,840 store for you. It may not be determined as yet what you're going to be doing, 1072 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:04,639 but I'm very confident based on your contribution here that you're going to 1073 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:09,280 continue to be a major comm community uh change maker uh uh for for this 1074 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:15,400 community. And uh thank you again. Thank you all very much for all that you do 1075 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,400 for cattle. Appreciate it. 1076 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,600 » And just to set the record straight, the streaming that y'all were talking about, 1077 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,440 that's Tracy in the IT department. That's not us. I'm not taking somebody 1078 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,719 else's credit. >> Well, if you're going to get the blame, 1079 01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:32,560 you might as well get some credit. >> Thank you again. 1080 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:36,800 » It takes a whole team of people to make that many mistakes. 1081 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,440 » We all We all play a part in technical glitches, but 1082 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:42,639 » That's right. Okay, Miss Clay, where are we? 1083 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:46,080 » We are um at communicates and committee reports where we start off with an 1084 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:51,280 administrative response to information requests for uh from commissioners. 1085 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:57,280 » Good afternoon, commissioners. I have uh nothing else to add and my report was uh 1086 01:26:54,239 --> 01:27:00,560 related to Tom and Shaw. So congratulations to them again. Thank 1087 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:05,199 you. >> Thank you. Uh the chair recognizes 1088 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:14,239 Commissioner Ken Eperson. >> I just wanted to uh chime in on uh 1089 01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:19,199 Mr. Rogers's report. uh very informative 1090 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:22,800 and should have been out here a long time ago. 1091 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:27,920 Uh as uh an individual that 1092 01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:33,600 Let me see. I got to count them up. I got I just had number eight great the 1093 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:41,920 other day on June 29th. got eight grades, 16 grand and uh all of them were 1094 01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:48,880 in Cattle Parish public school system, including myself. And one correlation 1095 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:53,360 that I've always noted is that all these places where these schools have closed, 1096 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:59,760 those neighborhoods have denigrated. 1097 01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:07,679 Those neighborhoods have denigrated. And one thing that hangs in my crawl is 1098 01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:10,639 the school that's down on Pier Avenue. Uh what was the name of that one? 1099 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:17,280 » George. >> George P. Hendricks. That was my seventh 1100 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:22,480 grade de debate teacher, an American history teacher. 1101 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:29,679 And his name is still up on that dilapidated raggedy building. 1102 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:33,360 If I wasn't at the age I am, I would get my ladder and go down and pull it down. 1103 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:37,920 I think I think it's just unconscionable and 1104 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:46,719 disrespectful as to the things he provided to 1105 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:50,000 thousands of individuals at Union Junior Senior High School. 1106 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,800 Thank you. >> Thank you for your remarks, 1107 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:56,679 Commissioner. The chair recognizes Commissioner John Paul Young. 1108 01:28:57,440 --> 01:29:04,320 Thank you, Mr. President. Um, Attorney Frasier, were you able to look up the 1109 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:09,320 question about whether we could um change our meeting times to 5:30? 1110 01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:15,280 » Commissioner, I was not, but I will get you that information. 1111 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,600 » Okay. Thank you. And um if you when you get it to me, could you share it with 1112 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,320 the other commissioners, too, please? >> We'll do. 1113 01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:21,320 » Thank you. 1114 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:32,480 Oh, thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Um, listen, Commissioner Robert. 1115 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:38,480 Uh, Mr. President, I just wanted to be added to the special resolution. 1116 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:41,440 » Okay. Well, just to be clear, we we we're no longer in administrative 1117 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,239 reports. We're in communications. >> I know. 1118 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:50,080 » Okay. No, no, I'm just trying to clarify that for everybody else. 1119 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:54,400 » Okay. Uh, Commissioner Thomas, >> thank you so much. And I do um apologize 1120 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:59,520 in advance and I hope that you all will um indulge me. Um so much has been going 1121 01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:03,760 on in Shreport and so much to commun to communicate about to you all. Um first I 1122 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:07,440 want to start by saying to the members of the appropriations committee um and I 1123 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:11,920 also have permission from the chair of economics um development. Um just a 1124 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:16,639 reminder that your scoring packets were due today. Um if you have not turned 1125 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:19,679 them in, please do so soon. Um if not tomorrow, let's try not to lapse past 1126 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,719 this weekend. and I will be here on Monday trying to help sift through some 1127 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:27,760 of that with our administration and our staff. So, um uh please try to get those 1128 01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:32,400 in for me. Um I wanted to say that I was inspired by a guest to our community, uh 1129 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:36,639 Mr. Scott Passfield. Um there's a post going on on social media. I've shared it 1130 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:40,880 on my page where he um passes through Cattle all the time on I 20 and um he 1131 01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:45,360 just happened to stop. he was passing through during a sunset and he was just 1132 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:49,280 compelled to pull over and take photos of what he saw and he had some beautiful 1133 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:54,000 photos of our skyline. He had some beautiful photos of um um just some 1134 01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:56,960 images here in Cattle Parish and um what he reminded I think has kind of 1135 01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:01,440 reignited and I'm glad to see this in our community. People um things that we 1136 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:04,719 take for granted, you know, um he really highlighted that in a very beautiful way 1137 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:08,080 and I'm glad to see members of the community that are sharing that 1138 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:12,080 information. Um, so I just wanted to say, um, you know, thank you for that. 1139 01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:15,120 He he really highlighted the treasures that we have here. And, you know, I'm 1140 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:18,480 hoping that we can have, you know, some new treasures. Um, I do want to say 1141 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:22,639 congratulations and a thank you, if I had not said it already, to the staff 1142 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:26,960 for such a professional presentation that they provided on last Friday. Um, I 1143 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:30,320 am still getting calls about that. Um, they're very thank um, the citizens are 1144 01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:34,000 very thankful for that information. So, thank you for that. And I want to um, 1145 01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:38,560 applaud you on the website. It's been really useful um for me as I've been 1146 01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:42,159 talking to people about these things. Um so they've been very very receptive to 1147 01:31:40,719 --> 01:31:47,159 that and um just want to remind everybody to go to cattle sports cattle 1148 01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:47,159 cattle.gov/cattleports. 1149 01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:52,880 Let me get it right. Um because it's a lot of great information there and I 1150 01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:59,040 just want to applaud y'all on that again. Um Miss um Miss Nations if you 1151 01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:03,360 could um assist me real quick. Um thank y'all for your indulgement. 1152 01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:07,920 Um wanted to remind everybody that SWCO has a program that's going on between 1153 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:12,480 October 30 um through October 31st. Um it is offering temporary support for 1154 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:16,719 existing residential customers. Um a lot of people are um do dealing with the 1155 01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:20,719 extreme heat. Um I know I've been running my air conditioner nonstop. I'm 1156 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:25,520 sure others have to try to combat the extreme temperature. So, um they're 1157 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:29,679 pausing the required deposits, um waving late payment fees for um customers who 1158 01:32:27,679 --> 01:32:34,239 contact SwepCo for assistance and they're also expanding eligibility for 1159 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:38,880 the average monthly payment program um to provide more predictable monthly 1160 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:42,639 bills. So, um please if you are watching um on YouTube from your phone, 1161 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:49,040 screenshot that information um so you can um please utilize it. Um also this 1162 01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:55,199 past um weekend I did get a chance to participate with Sportran. Um they are 1163 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:59,040 leading the way um here in innovation um in here in Shreport in Cattle Parish. We 1164 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:04,239 have the first in the state an autonomous um public transit vehicle um 1165 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:09,280 assistant um the national assistant secretary Seville Oz was in Treport to 1166 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:13,600 announce this autonomous bus. Um this was done by some funding by um the US 1167 01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:18,000 Department of Transportation smart grant. So, um I did get a chance to 1168 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:21,280 share with some um other public officials. We got a chance to go and 1169 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:26,480 ride the bus for the first time. We were terrified, y'all. But I will tell you 1170 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:32,239 that the sensory system in this um device is much better than in my car. 1171 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:37,440 And um I have a you know, so we a citizen was flying and the bus saw and 1172 01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:42,320 protected us from the citizen before the citizen I guess saw this big old bus. 1173 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:46,080 But the um the technology is very very advanced. Um I hope that there are more 1174 01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:49,600 opportunities for you all to preview it, get comfortable with it before it's 1175 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:54,320 implemented in the public transit. Um but um I did just want to share some of 1176 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:58,080 the um information and some of our our time there. If you'll go to the next 1177 01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:04,719 photo, you can see the bus and its size and how big it is. Um also um 1178 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:08,639 next um just to while we're talking about Sportran, they are going to be um 1179 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:14,639 having a ribbon cutting for the Sportran Gateway Hub. It's going to be at 4821 1180 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:18,480 Hollywood Avenue. Um I really really like the innovation that um their 1181 01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:21,760 director um and CEO, Mr. Dairo Washington, is doing in public 1182 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:25,600 transportation. Um they're really coming up with some innovative ideas and I hope 1183 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:29,199 this will help um support our um citizens who rely on public 1184 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:32,800 transportation for work and to get, you know, other things taken care of in 1185 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:37,840 their life. Um September is suicide prevention month. Um the 988 lifeline is 1186 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:42,080 u more than just an easy to remember number. Um it's a direct connection to 1187 01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:46,320 compassionate, accessible care and support for anyone experiencing mental 1188 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:51,280 health related issues and um distress. Um I um happen to have known a number of 1189 01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:56,320 individuals who um unfortunately lost their life um due to suicide. Um and um 1190 01:34:54,639 --> 01:35:01,040 I just want people to um know that there is help. Um please just dial 988 if you 1191 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:06,000 can remember that number um in your time of despair. Um next I do want to talk 1192 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:11,440 about this event that I saw that's going on free. Um, I always try to highlight 1193 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:15,360 our history in America. I mean, in Kado Parish, especially our robust, um, film 1194 01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:18,880 and entertainment history that we have. And so, wanted to show you that the 1195 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:22,800 program is presented by Lieutenant Governor Billy Nunger and the Louisiana 1196 01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:27,199 Vision of the Arts in partnership with the Louisiana Endowment for Humanities. 1197 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:30,719 Um, a lot of work has been put into this. So, I hope that you guys can 1198 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:35,520 please come out and uh, participate. that is on um 1199 01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:42,400 September 18th um at the municipal auditorium and it's from 6:00 to 8:00 1200 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:45,360 p.m. Um also for um its 50th anniversary um Streetport Regional Arts Council, the 1201 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:50,639 Red River Rebel as well as the Independence Bowl are celebrating 50 1202 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:55,440 years um they have opened up an exhibit that is at Art Space downtown. Please, 1203 01:35:53,040 --> 01:36:00,560 if you um really um have supported these organizations over the years, please 1204 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:05,120 come down and um re and view that um view this exhibit. Um this weekend, 1205 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:08,960 thank you, Commissioner Burrell. Um on Wednesday, he did come out um I know 1206 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:12,719 there was some inclement weather, but I wanted to remind you guys about the 1207 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:17,280 Streetport Green Urban Farm uh farm and community market every Wednesday from 1208 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:22,719 11:30 to 12:30. Once again, they have fresh produce for a dollar a pound. Um, 1209 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:27,840 also, um, I had had some conversations with, um, um, our natural resources 1210 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:31,600 chair, Miss, um, um, Graceand Blake. Um, me and her are going to try to stop by 1211 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:35,199 and assist, um, Councilwoman Tabitha Taylor and Lieutenant Governor Billy 1212 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:39,120 Nungster. He's doing a lot in our community. I love to see it. Um, in 1213 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:44,080 their effort about um, for our love the waterways cleanup. We'll be doing an 1214 01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:49,119 effort at the um um, Cross Lake. That's going to be Saturday, September the 12th 1215 01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:56,480 from um 8 to 1 o'clock pm. Um the meetup spot is the American Legion um Low 1216 01:36:51,360 --> 01:37:01,520 McFarland Outpace Outpost um 51 5315 South Lakeshore Drive. Um I also wanted 1217 01:36:59,679 --> 01:37:05,840 to share um something that's really close to my heart. Whatever you do, work 1218 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:10,320 at it with all your heart. Ask for working for the Lord and not for man. 1219 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:15,760 So, I'm really excited to announce um um to join um Commissioner Ken Efferson um 1220 01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:19,280 um in my appointments to the National Association of Counties. I'm really 1221 01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:22,960 excited to be appointed to the Community Economic and Workforce Development 1222 01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:27,520 Policy Steering Committee um as their vice chair um the Arts and Culture 1223 01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:31,520 Innovation Council and the International Economic Development Innovation Council. 1224 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:36,400 So, I'm really excited to um be able to take those um take our issues in cattle 1225 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:40,000 um on a national level and be able to discuss those things and get um other 1226 01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:44,400 information and other things we can bring back here to shreport. So, I'm 1227 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:49,920 very thankful for that. Um as we talk about representation, I wanted to also 1228 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:52,960 announce um some updates um from our um Commissioner Storm Gage Watts. I know 1229 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:56,080 she's been present. I don't know if y'all have missed her, but I've missed 1230 01:37:54,080 --> 01:38:00,800 her here um in the commission meeting with us this week. Um she is still on 1231 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:05,280 her um a series of meetings by the police jury. Um she is our region for 1232 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:09,119 representative and what she has done um they are um hard at work working on our 1233 01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:13,760 legislative priorities. Um if you didn't know Kat Parish is leading the way on 1234 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:17,920 these priorities um with our Louisiana u police jury association and um um her 1235 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:21,520 representation has been a very very integral part about getting a lot of 1236 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:26,560 things that we've had um and they petition the state for and getting those 1237 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:31,040 passed. Um, so thank her for her work in that. And I just want to let you guys 1238 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:35,679 know that um it's September, the greatest month of 1239 01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:40,239 the of the on the calendar. And on tomorrow is one of the greatest days of 1240 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:45,760 the world, which happens to be my birthday. And um I'll be celebrating my 1241 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:48,719 39th birthday um this year. U I don't want any gifts, anything like that. I 1242 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:54,000 love for people to support our efforts in the cause for walking in Alzheimer's. 1243 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:57,440 Um, I'm going to relax and enjoy this birthday for a good cause and I want to 1244 01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:00,320 invite everybody out. If you want to come, you want to talk politics or 1245 01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:03,760 whatever and stuff, I'll give you my email there and we'll talk about it 1246 01:39:01,679 --> 01:39:09,199 Monday. But um, we'll be at the Louisiana Dairy Cafe on September the 1247 01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:13,760 4th tomorrow night and on um September the sec I mean September the 5th, we'll 1248 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:17,280 be um at Fatty Art Vocals from 1 to 5:00. So I want to invite you all to 1249 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:22,000 please come and join me, celebrate my birthday, and we'll do it for a great 1250 01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:25,440 cause. Um, so, um, this ends my communication and I thank you all for 1251 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:30,320 indulging me all the time. >> Hold up, my brother. Hold up. 1252 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:34,960 » Who is that dude on that picture? >> This, that's me. You know, I can make 1253 01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:40,239 sure you see the smile in person. U, you know, that is me. 39 years old. I'm 1254 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:45,600 really excited um to go into my last chapter of my 30s. Um, it's been a 1255 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:49,760 journey. uh when I look back over my life, you know, I can go on and y'all 1256 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:54,400 know I'll get emotional, so I'mma stop. But I just want to say um it's been a 1257 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,719 journey. Um thank y'all for being a part of that journey. So no matter what part 1258 01:39:56,239 --> 01:40:01,400 you play. >> Yeah, that's that's the Ozil version. 1259 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:07,760 » I need to take some more. I'm trying to get them a little smaller. So 1260 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,320 » all right, my brother. Happy birthday. >> Thank you. 1261 01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:14,000 » All right, let's see. Let's see who else is on the board. Let's see. Commissioner 1262 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:19,040 Gracian Thank you, Mr. President. Uh, first I 1263 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:23,760 would like to say um how much I appreciated Scott Passfield for um 1264 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:27,440 driving through Shreport and taking these beautiful pictures and thank you 1265 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:33,199 Commissioner Thomas for pointing that out as well. It's always wonderful um to 1266 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:39,679 see other people that recognize your most beautiful community. Um, one of the 1267 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:43,840 pictures that I think is so powerful are the two children that are playing 1268 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:48,080 outside of the water park in downtown Shreport. 1269 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:53,360 My husband and son fly out of the downtown airport and we're there quite 1270 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:57,760 often and so we get to see the joy that's being felt there. And when I 1271 01:40:56,080 --> 01:41:02,800 travel outside of Shrefport, I love going to downtown communities and seeing 1272 01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:09,920 the different unique um things to see and do. the bridge that's lit up is a 1273 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:14,880 wonderful joy um to see that and um going through downtown I just 1274 01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:19,360 it's absolutely beautiful and so that was such a beautiful post to come 1275 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:23,520 across. I reposted it and it's wonderful to see the people's comments about how 1276 01:41:21,440 --> 01:41:27,520 much they love and appreciate our community. 1277 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:31,760 I want to wish everyone a safe holiday this weekend. It's Labor Day weekend 1278 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:38,480 that we're going to be celebrating and um I think that for me I stand on my 1279 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:43,920 feet all day and for 35 years I feel the the labor and um so it really means a 1280 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:48,960 lot to me this weekend and I didn't start taking off Labor Day weekend until 1281 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:54,960 about 10 years ago to actually enjoy that day because I was working um so I 1282 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:58,719 want everyone to have a safe holiday. I would like to share that Broadmore 1283 01:41:56,480 --> 01:42:05,040 Neighborhood Association is going to have a forum this coming week on Tuesday 1284 01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:10,800 or in two weeks. And um I want to make sure that um Administrator Bryant, can 1285 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:18,000 you share with us the open house that is going to be happening next week at LSUS 1286 01:42:13,679 --> 01:42:22,159 to share the information um about the sports complex, the date and time, 1287 01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:26,480 location, and then also for the Broadmore Neighbor Association. 1288 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:30,360 » Okay, Crystal. >> Okay. Thank you so much. 1289 01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:38,880 Good afternoon, commissioners. Um, so we have three public meetings that will be 1290 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:43,119 happening next week. Um, sort of as a continuation of the presentations that 1291 01:42:40,719 --> 01:42:46,560 we've done, uh, on Friday from our special meeting, we have three public 1292 01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:49,760 sessions. For anyone that may have missed the presentation, um, did not 1293 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:53,840 have a chance to get any of the information or want, you know, to ask 1294 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:58,719 any questions about the project. Those three meetings all are starting at 5:30. 1295 01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:03,840 So, our first meeting is Tuesday, September 8th, and that is at the LSUS 1296 01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:08,480 Red River Room in the University Center, but it's on the second floor, not the um 1297 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:12,560 actual theater. Um the one on September 9th is right here in Government 1298 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:17,679 Chambers, and the one on September 10th is at the Greenwood Acres Family Life 1299 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:21,199 Center on Greenwood Road. Um and just uh it's a little bit separate, if I'm 1300 01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:24,400 right, Commissioner, down the street from the actual church, the Family Life 1301 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:28,239 Center. >> Oh, yes. They're together. just a road 1302 01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:32,320 » just okay so just if there was any confusion about that but all of those 1303 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:35,440 meetings start at 5:30 and citizens do have the opportunity to see the 1304 01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:40,440 presentation and ask any questions that they may have 1305 01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:40,440 » thank you 1306 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:49,600 » I'm sorry >> um so that meeting is on the 15th um 1307 01:43:46,639 --> 01:43:54,320 » Tuesday se Tuesday September 15th at Broadmore Baptist Church and it begins 1308 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:57,360 at 6 o'clock >> thank you Crystal 1309 01:43:55,440 --> 01:44:01,040 Commissioners, we have um scheduled meetings with other neighborhood 1310 01:43:58,719 --> 01:44:05,840 associations. Um we have the Southern Hills Neighborhood and Business 1311 01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:13,000 Association. We're um Queensboro Neighborhood Association. So, as we get 1312 01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:13,000 them scheduled, we'll notify you. 1313 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:20,000 » Email. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you very 1314 01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:24,800 much. And uh especially for uh bringing that up about when we're having those 1315 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:29,360 meetings. Very very important. Um, the check recognizes Commissioner Rob Baro. 1316 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:34,000 » Thank you, Mr. President. I just wanted to reiterate uh something that the uh 1317 01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:40,560 our administrator just said. The Queensburg Neighborhood Association 1318 01:44:36,639 --> 01:44:46,400 uh will be having their uh meeting September 10th. I believe it's 5:30 at 1319 01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:52,719 Billsbury Park. And as I understand it, they will they will be uh discussing 1320 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:58,239 also the sports complex. Uh I have a couple other events at the same time, 1321 01:44:55,119 --> 01:45:03,679 but I do plan to stick my head in uh since it's over in the district 1322 01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:11,280 um in my district. Uh the second thing is the fifth annual main attraction bike 1323 01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:16,639 and car show is coming up again on September 9th at the state fairgrounds. 1324 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:21,280 Um um that group came down last year and 1325 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:26,400 and showed you they filled up the fairgrounds. Uh probably one of the 1326 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:35,760 largest event that we've had we had last year uh here. um very successful uh 1327 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:43,119 program and a lot of cars and a lot of noise, but at the same time um it's 1328 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:48,080 something very good for uh the fairgrounds. 1329 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:53,199 And in addition to that, I I guess I've gotten kind of hooked on these bikes. I 1330 01:45:50,159 --> 01:46:01,119 don't I don't ride a bike, but uh we we've been negotiating to get a national 1331 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:08,000 uh uh bike con uh sort of like a convention here uh 1332 01:46:04,639 --> 01:46:14,880 that was held in Little Rock uh this past year. Matter of fact, it was just 1333 01:46:10,639 --> 01:46:20,639 last month and it drew some 50 to 60,000 bikers from all over the nation. Um, 1334 01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:23,760 that's a lot of noise at one time. So, we're we're working on that, M. Mr. 1335 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:27,440 President. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Commissioner 1336 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:30,080 Burrell. Let's see. One more time. Uh, Commissioner Victor Thomas. 1337 01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:33,760 » Thank you so much. And I'll be brief. Um, I did I would be remiss and I 1338 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:38,159 probably will get beat up because he bigger than me. Um, I did want to um 1339 01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:43,199 tell Commissioner Stefon Jones happy birthday. His birthday just passed as 1340 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:46,400 well um on last week, but um um I also want y'all to please be in prayer for he 1341 01:46:44,639 --> 01:46:50,400 and his family. his mother is not um in the best of health right now and that's 1342 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:54,159 what what his absence is for today. Um so please keep them in your in you guys 1343 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:58,320 prayers as well. Um and thank you for bringing it up again. Um Miss Blake, um 1344 01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:02,159 I did hear you say that we will be having some other community meetings um 1345 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:07,119 in like neighborhood associations and everything. Is there a way for like an 1346 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:12,080 organization who may want um to kind of hopefully request um our presence at 1347 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:16,320 maybe their meeting to um give some information maybe on a case- by case 1348 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:20,000 basis or availability as it permits. But is there something they can 1349 01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:25,920 » We do have a email that we've set up. It's um 1350 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:30,239 cattleports.gov. >> They can send a request there. Also, if 1351 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:33,840 there are any questions that citizens may have, they can email us at 1352 01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,679 cattleports@cettle.gov. >> Okay. Thank you so much. 1353 01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:38,960 » All right. Thank you. >> And I failed to mention we do have a 1354 01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:44,159 meeting as well at the MLK Neighborhood Association. We will get that uh those 1355 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:47,040 list of meetings out to you all. >> Thank you. 1356 01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:52,400 » Um let's see. And it's been brought to my attention that's um at least one of 1357 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:58,560 our commissioners having a problem with that little board. Um and so um the 1358 01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:01,679 chair is going to recognize Commissioner Conton at this time, but Commissioner 1359 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:05,199 Krakman, if you having problem with yours, you have anything you want? 1360 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:10,320 » Okay. All right, Commissioner. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Just wanted to 1361 01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:14,960 acknowledge uh as previously stated in the Southern Hills area, uh at least 1362 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:21,920 two meetings have been scheduled. I'm pending a um answer from the uh Cedar 1363 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:27,760 Grove uh spar as well where we could use that uh the end of September. So there 1364 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:34,560 are numerous places where people can go and hear and are they actually live 1365 01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:38,719 streamed or not? >> We're not streaming. 1366 01:48:36,639 --> 01:48:43,280 Uh in addition to that, I want to share on the 8th of September, CARE uh will be 1367 01:48:41,199 --> 01:48:47,119 having their neighborhood meeting and also on the 14th, Southern Hill 1368 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:52,239 Neighborhood Association will be uh conducted as well. And and as we talk 1369 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:56,560 about birthdays, Sunday will be my birthday as well. Thank you very much. 1370 01:48:54,639 --> 01:48:59,760 » Greatest people born. Happy birthday to you, Commissioner. 1371 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:03,760 » Commissioners, the the original meeting is still on the website that anyone can 1372 01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:06,639 view at any time. It's just the additional meetings. We won't be live 1373 01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:10,000 streaming those. >> Right. And uh Commissioner Jung, I know 1374 01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:12,719 you stepped out for just a moment, but uh it was brought to my attention that 1375 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:16,159 Commissioner Carter was having a problem with his board and so just want to make 1376 01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:21,600 sure you're not having a problem if you want to get on the board to speak. All 1377 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:25,679 right. All right. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Clerk. 1378 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,679 » Okay, that brings us uh to the president's report. Did you have 1379 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:31,360 anything else? >> No. No, I think I've exhausted. All 1380 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:35,199 right, that brings us then to public hearings on zoning ordinances and cases 1381 01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:39,280 where the first item we have is a public hearing on ordinance number 6639 of 1382 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:44,159 2026. That's in relation to parish zoning case 26-13-P. 1383 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:47,600 That is an ordinance to amend volume two of the code of ordinances of the parish 1384 01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:51,040 of Kat as amended to Kataparish unified development code by amending the zoning 1385 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:56,320 of property located on the south side of stage coach road approximately 500 ft 1386 01:49:53,920 --> 01:50:01,760 west of writing club lane in Cataparish Louisiana from RA rural agricultural 1387 01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:05,280 district to RA rural agricultural small planned unit development district and 1388 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:10,040 otherwise providing with respect there too. This item is in district 11. 1389 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:18,639 » Okay. Okay. Public hearing is now open. Um those who wish to express opposition 1390 01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:24,199 uh to this ordinance u may speak now. And those in support of this ordinance, 1391 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,199 you may speak now. 1392 01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:31,360 Public hearing on ordinance 6639 of 2026 is now closed. 1393 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:38,000 » Thank you very much. Now we have a public hearing on a regular ordinance to 1394 01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:41,280 address and that is uh 6640 of 2026. That is an ordinance amending the budget 1395 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:44,480 of estimated revenues and expenditures for the public works fund and the 1396 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:48,719 capital outlay fund to provide an appropriation to install welcome signs 1397 01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:54,480 on I20 eastbound and otherwise providing with respect there too. 1398 01:50:51,360 --> 01:51:00,000 » Public hearing is now open. Um excuse me public hearing is now open. Uh those who 1399 01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:08,880 are in opposition to this ordinance uh 6640 of 2026 may speak now and those who 1400 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:12,639 are in support of it may speak now. Seeing that no one has risen, this 1401 01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:15,840 public hearing is now closed. >> Thank you very much. That brings us now 1402 01:51:14,159 --> 01:51:20,880 to the consideration of the ordinances that just had public hearings. The first 1403 01:51:18,239 --> 01:51:28,199 one is adop uh to consider adopting ordinance 6639 of 2026 in relation to 1404 01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:28,199 parish zoning case 26-13-P. 1405 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:37,199 » Okay. There's a motion um by Victor Thomas and a second by Commissioner 1406 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:44,560 Eperson. Um, I'd like to make a motion to adopt and uh to adopt ordinance 6639 1407 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:50,239 if appropriate to adopt ordinance 6639, ordinance 6640 1408 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:57,199 um to adopt the work session minutes of August 31st um resolution 52 1409 01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:02,880 and that will bring us to our new business if that a global and adoption 1410 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:06,000 is is appropriate. >> All right, let's see. Uh, Commissioner 1411 01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:12,639 Epson, would you like to speak on the motion? 1412 01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:18,719 » Okay. If I just may add that um um the first one, 1413 01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:24,239 ordinance um 6639 is in Commissioner Lazarus district and he's expressed to 1414 01:52:20,639 --> 01:52:29,920 me that uh he is in support of this um ordinance just for the record. 1415 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:33,280 Okay. And we'll comment on either of these 1416 01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:37,800 items. Okay. Hey, Mr. CL. 1417 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,800 » Okay. 1418 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:54,199 » And Commissioner Cawthorne, is your pad back up yet or Okay. Thank you. That's 1419 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:54,199 an affirmative. Uh, Commissioner Corn. 1420 01:52:55,360 --> 01:53:02,159 Okay. And that motion carries with seven in support, two in opposition, and three 1421 01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:05,840 absent. Um, so those items are adopted. Uh before we move on, we do need to 1422 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:11,199 quickly introduce uh an ordinance by title. Uh and that is 6641 of 2026. 1423 01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:15,679 That's an ordinance to close and abandon the street dedication in the BMK 1424 01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:19,760 subdivision located in section 32 township 17 north range 14 west in the 1425 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:24,159 parish of Cado and otherwise provide with respect there too. That item is in 1426 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:28,800 district 7. Uh and then that brings us forward to new business where the first 1427 01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:34,599 item we have today uh and our only item under new business are the animal 1428 01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,599 service board appeals. 1429 01:53:34,639 --> 01:53:37,639 » Yes. 1430 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:51,679 » You're not You're not on the mic. You're not 1431 01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:53,920 okay. Now, 1432 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:57,920 » I'm sorry, >> speaker. 1433 01:53:54,639 --> 01:54:06,360 » Okay. I would like to uh I think I did a thumbs up for 6640. That 1434 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,360 was not my intent. 1435 01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:14,480 » That's not an affirmative for 6640. >> Just based on our um our policy to do a 1436 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:20,400 motion to reconsider, we have to have a um somebody on the failing side of the 1437 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,400 vote. So somebody that voted no >> prevailing. 1438 01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:26,080 » No, it's prevailing side. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Right. Yes. Sorry. 1439 01:54:24,639 --> 01:54:28,400 » Right. >> So, 1440 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:31,920 » and which he was. And now he now he has a motion to reconsider. And if I 1441 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:35,920 understand it correct, we have we have to vote on whether or not to reconsider. 1442 01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:39,199 Is that accurate? >> Yes. Correct. 1443 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:42,400 » Okay. You like to speak on your motion, 1444 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:44,320 Commissioner? >> Yes, Mr. President. And I just like to 1445 01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:48,719 say >> Well, I apologize. I apologize. You need 1446 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:53,840 a second. Okay. Thank you. Uh for the record, 1447 01:54:50,639 --> 01:54:55,840 Commissioner Kraken is a second. >> Okay. Thank you. You may proceed, 1448 01:54:55,119 --> 01:55:00,639 Commissioner. >> Thank you, Mr. President. The the thing 1449 01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:03,920 is when I look at the language here, uh there's two different things going on 1450 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:07,360 because again, when I look at the ordinance and actually go into the 1451 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:11,599 adoption part versus the fact sheet in and of itself is showing me two 1452 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:17,920 different things. in the one area is showing me that we're just voting for a 1453 01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:22,080 welcome sign on I uh on I 20, but then when I go into the fact sheet is showing 1454 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:26,719 me that we're voting for $75,000 for a sign. And the thing is my question is 1455 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:31,520 how's this any different from what we had previously vote on concern 1456 01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:38,520 concerning the veteran friendly sign that we 1457 01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:38,520 did not support last time? 1458 01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:49,520 Is that a question for the chair? Just statement. Um I mean I don't I 1459 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:54,400 don't I don't see where it's materially different. You know, it's still the sign 1460 01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:59,599 and and and he wants to sign at the the different ends of uh I believe I 20. Um 1461 01:55:58,639 --> 01:56:04,239 I don't think there's anything materially different. of course has been 1462 01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:08,320 articulated and thoroughly expressed around this body that individual can 1463 01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:13,119 keep bringing things up you know as long as he wants to correct 1464 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:16,880 » and uh sometimes um the politics change you know people have a right to change 1465 01:56:14,639 --> 01:56:23,040 their mind about things as we evolve we get more information um you know and of 1466 01:56:19,599 --> 01:56:25,280 course you know politics is what it is and I I really don't know what else to 1467 01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:29,520 say about it >> yeah I mean it's not a yeah or nay 1468 01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,280 question it's just sir you know that's sir 1469 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:34,400 » that's my But to your point, I don't think there's anything materially 1470 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:37,520 different. Correct. Does anybody else have any other view about it? 1471 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:41,360 » Is there anything that you all know that's materially different? 1472 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:47,199 » Okay. >> Well, it the our understanding is that 1473 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:52,400 we would be u mimicking the sign that we already have on I49. So, we have a sign 1474 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:58,320 on I49 that says welcome to cattle parish and at the bottom of it, it says 1475 01:56:55,040 --> 01:57:03,520 um veteran friendly. Uh so, the sign itself is a welcome sign. The purpose of 1476 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:08,719 the sign is to be a welcome sign, but we added language that says veteran 1477 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:12,159 friendly. So, it's not it's not different. I'm just 1478 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:15,520 explaining what it is. It is a welcome sign. It says, 1479 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:21,920 » right, but to be clear, we approving what is in the record. And what's in the 1480 01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:27,679 record is is to do what? >> A welcome sign on I20 East. But you need 1481 01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:32,960 but what we're actually doing is appropriating the dollars to do that. We 1482 01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:34,639 have to have money to add the the I the welcome sign, 1483 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:39,360 » right? >> And we were my understanding is that we 1484 01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:44,639 would put the same type of sign as that we already had. We already have one on 1485 01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:50,199 I20 I mean on I49 and it says welcome to Kettle Parish and at the bottom it says 1486 01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:50,199 veteran friendly. 1487 01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:54,119 » Okay. 1488 01:57:54,159 --> 01:57:58,000 Okay, the motion is on the board. Commissioner Thomas, you had something 1489 01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:01,119 you wanted to say? >> Yes. I just wanted to clarify with 1490 01:57:59,599 --> 01:58:04,320 administration that I mean, we haven't entered the design phase for this sign 1491 01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:08,320 yet or nothing. At this point, we're just appropriating dollars um for the 1492 01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:13,440 welcome sign. Um it's Commissioner Epson's desire for it to say veteran 1493 01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:18,480 friendly and welcome to Kado. Um, I think I'm sure that he's amanable to if 1494 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:22,080 we want to say veteran friendly and and deer hunting friendly, you know, or 1495 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:26,400 whatever we can do, we have time to discuss that in the, you know, in the um 1496 01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:30,480 in the design phase of this portion. >> Yes, we can adjust the design if you so 1497 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:35,199 desire. You're basically doing a budget amendment. Once you appropriate the 1498 01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:38,000 dollars, this administration's role, you don't vote, you're not actually, you're 1499 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:41,360 voting for the money. >> Thank you. And once you vote for the 1500 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:46,000 money, we then have to go figure out what the sign would be. We would provide 1501 01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:50,880 you um you know, in the past we provide you um diagrams to show what we were 1502 01:58:48,159 --> 01:58:56,800 putting, what it looked like, and then we went forward with the um approval. 1503 01:58:53,040 --> 01:59:01,119 Now, I will remind you all DOTD does have to approve this. We can't just go 1504 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:05,440 put a sign on I 20. We do have to work with the state to determine if they 1505 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:09,360 would allow us to put the sign. and then if they do allow us and that will take 1506 01:59:07,199 --> 01:59:14,560 some time. If they do allow us then we would design the sign. Um but this is 1507 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:17,760 basically just appropriate the dollars. >> Right. Thank you so much for that 1508 01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:22,639 clarity. And you know, I want to just assure everybody um the reason why my my 1509 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:26,880 um vote changed on it cuz I um didn't support it initially was because I think 1510 01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:32,880 that when we initially did the sign on I49 um Cattle Parish may not have had as 1511 01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:37,199 much um activity going on as much um things that we should be telling people 1512 01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:41,199 welcome the cattle and stop and see. So um I think that um once again getting 1513 01:59:39,199 --> 01:59:45,679 into the weeds about what it looks like and this I'm not insinuating that's what 1514 01:59:43,679 --> 01:59:49,920 you're doing. I think we first need to once again like many other things first 1515 01:59:47,679 --> 01:59:57,119 we need to identify a dollar amount before we get into you know the the 1516 01:59:55,199 --> 02:00:00,719 details of the things of certain things I mean design and all those other 1517 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:03,880 aspects. So that's why I support it. Thank you. 1518 02:00:06,239 --> 02:00:13,440 » Okay. Right now um what's on the board the motion on the board is to reconsider 1519 02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:16,159 uh the previous vote. So that's what we're going to be voting on right now, 1520 02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:20,560 whether or not we want to reconsider the previous vote. If you vote no, you're 1521 02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:24,719 saying that the previous vote stand. If you vote yes, then we have to vote all 1522 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:30,560 over again on the matter that's before us on the agenda. 1523 02:00:27,599 --> 02:00:32,480 Is that clear to everybody? >> Let's go. 1524 02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:38,800 » You would have to take up all of the items that were in the enlo. 1525 02:00:35,199 --> 02:00:43,280 You'd have to revote on everything. Yeah. 1526 02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:46,560 » Excuse me. Just to be clear, we're not it's not 1527 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:49,599 we're not just we can't reconsider on just one item like it it's the whole 1528 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:52,639 conglomerate, >> but we're voting as to whether or not 1529 02:00:51,119 --> 02:00:54,639 we're going to reconsider. >> Mhm. 1530 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:58,800 » That's what we're voting on right now. Whether or not we're going to reconsider 1531 02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:03,199 the vote that we previously had. So, we don't have to vote on the on the on the 1532 02:01:01,119 --> 02:01:07,040 global part. We don't have to vote on that if the motion to reconsider stands 1533 02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:10,480 » passes. Yes. >> Right. 1534 02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:14,639 » Okay. Is that clear to everybody what we're voting on now? 1535 02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:20,360 » Yes. >> No means the previous vote and global 1536 02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,360 vote stands. 1537 02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:31,280 Is Is that not clear to everybody? >> All right. All right, Mr. Clerk. Let's 1538 02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:34,280 go with it. Is somebody Okay. Okay. 1539 02:01:41,679 --> 02:01:49,679 Okay, that motion does not carry that uh you have four in support, five in 1540 02:01:45,599 --> 02:01:56,560 opposition. Um and so that uh motion to reconsider does not uh does not uh 1541 02:01:52,880 --> 02:02:02,080 carry. Um, so that brings us uh again back to new business 1542 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:08,239 where we have the animal services board appeals 1543 02:02:04,639 --> 02:02:12,800 and we have two cases today. Uh the first case uh I believe is the Hawthorne 1544 02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:18,320 appeal and I believe Mr. Hawthorne is here. Um I believe we have a second case 1545 02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:24,960 uh the Galvin appeal. I don't believe there is anybody present for that case. 1546 02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:29,760 Uh seeing no one uh we can move forward with the Hawthorne appeal. So uh if uh 1547 02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:35,159 Mr. Hawthorne uh if the appellant would like to make their way forward 1548 02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:35,159 um 1549 02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:43,599 we typically start out by inviting the appellant to speak and these hearings I 1550 02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:47,280 know we haven't done one in a minute so I'll just refresh everybody's memory. Uh 1551 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:54,159 we'll invite the appellent to speak first. Uh they appeal directly to this 1552 02:02:49,840 --> 02:03:00,159 body. After that the um the KTO animal services will give a presentation. Uh 1553 02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:05,040 you do have your um uh on the agenda linked are uh documents from the 1554 02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:09,679 previous hearings uh that may be referenced uh and you do have those 1555 02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:17,920 available as part of the public record. Um so uh at this time uh we'll have the 1556 02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:24,280 presentation uh from uh Mr. Hawthorne or the appellent. 1557 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,280 Hi, 1558 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:34,000 firstly um thanks for seeing us today. I would just like to apologize for 1559 02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:40,880 somebody leaving the gate open and the two Houdinis going to town. 1560 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:49,119 Um but I think I would just like to read you my letter. Um, if you ask any of the 1561 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:53,840 Kado Parish animal control employees, they will probably tell you that they 1562 02:03:51,199 --> 02:03:58,719 are not aggressive and they are not vicious or dangerous. 1563 02:03:56,480 --> 02:04:03,840 Um, the driver that came to pick them up, I'm I was not there that day and I 1564 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:07,760 was not at the last hearing because my patient got on the floor as I was trying 1565 02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:11,920 to leave and I had to stay for two hours and check blood pressure. 1566 02:04:10,159 --> 02:04:16,239 Um, I don't think that she even wanted to 1567 02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:21,280 take them because they just got right in the car with her like they do anybody 1568 02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:27,920 that would come by. Um, the ring leader 1569 02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:31,920 is pinned up, but she got out. She's 9 years old and has arthritis. I don't 1570 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:36,560 know where she thought she was going, but he felt a pure pressure and went 1571 02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:41,760 with her. They have not been out that I know of 1572 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:47,360 because nobody has told me anything since August the 2nd of 2025. And they 1573 02:04:45,119 --> 02:04:53,119 were picked up by a very nice man named Brian Garza. Somebody told him where 1574 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:58,719 they thought they lived. He messaged me because I saw it on 1575 02:04:56,159 --> 02:05:02,560 Facebook and he said, "I'm sorry, I put them out at the wrong place. Are they 1576 02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:06,960 home? They're so sweet." Yes, sir. They're home. 1577 02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:10,560 When this video that was posted that you're going to see, the comment that 1578 02:05:08,639 --> 02:05:15,119 was made by the lady who posted the video says she had met them before and 1579 02:05:12,639 --> 02:05:20,880 she thought they were nice because they are nice. The owner of the dog told me 1580 02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:26,400 that she saw them and turned around and basically started running back home. 1581 02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:32,400 These two goofballs will protect anybody in this room and if there was a dog 1582 02:05:28,239 --> 02:05:40,480 chasing you, they would go after them. But this is not they don't stay loose 1583 02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:48,000 and at large and running the town. So um you know she sent me a copy of of the 1584 02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:54,159 bill $69 a photo of the scratch no stitches staples glue or antibiotics. 1585 02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:58,400 Her and the lady that posted the video, without her permission, had both already 1586 02:05:56,239 --> 02:06:05,040 called the shelter by the next morning to ask why they came to get the dogs. 1587 02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:10,239 They knew where the dogs lived because when they used to get out frequently 1588 02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:18,400 before August of last year, they made lots of friends. Uh the Petri over on 1589 02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:24,400 Norris Ferry, um their best friend is the delivery driver from FedEx. And I 1590 02:06:20,719 --> 02:06:29,119 have a letter that I brought from her. She's been delivering mail for 9 years. 1591 02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:34,960 They're lovable fur babies and always greet me with affection. They get on her 1592 02:06:32,159 --> 02:06:39,280 truck and they eat the dog treats. Um, 1593 02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:45,440 we live on a farm and the acres in front of us and beside us are owned by Gabriel 1594 02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:49,840 Baldderas who is a member of the MPC. He has multiple employees at his 1595 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:54,880 property every day who take care of his poultry because, you know, he has his 1596 02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:59,280 business. He he does farm to table at his restaurant. Those dogs are probably 1597 02:06:57,599 --> 02:07:03,360 more of a pest than anything because they want to help him do everything. 1598 02:07:01,599 --> 02:07:07,679 They go down there and they watch and they protect and they help. They've 1599 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:12,719 never bitten him. They have never bitten his employees. They've probably licked 1600 02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:16,960 them to death. The one that does not say pinned up, 1601 02:07:14,719 --> 02:07:22,400 which is the young one, guards all of his animals, all of our 1602 02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:28,239 animals. I've lost two chickens and my farm cat since he's been gone. 1603 02:07:26,239 --> 02:07:31,920 All of our neighbors have dogs. I don't know if anybody went and interviewed 1604 02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:36,159 them from the shelter, but they don't go to their house. They don't attack their 1605 02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:42,079 dogs. I firmly all I can see is a video of a 1606 02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:48,400 corner of them nipping her dog, but she told me she was running. When I run, he 1607 02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:52,719 runs after me, too. So, I mean, we have a great two great grandchildren, one is 1608 02:07:50,560 --> 02:08:00,239 two, and he drapes himself across this dog and sleeps on him. If if he were 1609 02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:04,639 either of them were vicious, um if either of them were dangerous, they 1610 02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:10,000 would have already been to the vet and be unelved and would not be running the 1611 02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:15,440 streets and getting arrested. They were bred to protect, 1612 02:08:13,119 --> 02:08:21,520 not to be aggressive. Um you know, we're not going to open the 1613 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:25,920 gate to mow the yard. The goats will just have to mow it or it's going to be 1614 02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:30,960 eight feet tall because if she gets out, she's going to tell him, "Let's go to 1615 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:34,159 town. Let's go to Norris Ferry and see our friends." I don't know if they've 1616 02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:38,480 ever been to the Grove. They used to go to Providence all the time. They have a 1617 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:44,880 sweet lady in fancy house shoes they go see. But I'm I'm just here to beg for 1618 02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:49,440 forgiveness because this has never happened before. If you met them, you 1619 02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:53,280 would be like, "Oh my god, y'all are goofballs. 1620 02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:58,280 Um, that's really all I have to say. Thank 1621 02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:58,280 you. 1622 02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:14,880 » How y'all doing? >> Thank you. 1623 02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:20,400 » Um, we sent information to Mr. Jeff. I'm certain if him and Mrs. Nation sent you 1624 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:23,520 all that. Have you read the synopsis of the cases and whatnot? 1625 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:26,560 » But you can give us an overview of it. >> And these items are, by the way, I know 1626 02:09:25,199 --> 02:09:29,520 I mentioned a moment ago, but they are all linked on the agenda, your 1627 02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,599 electronic agendas, >> um, as an attachment. 1628 02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:35,920 » Yes, we all have >> for your reference. 1629 02:09:32,719 --> 02:09:41,040 » Okay. So, one, when a dog is deemed dangerous, we 1630 02:09:39,199 --> 02:09:45,360 know that it's a difference between dangerous and vicious. Dangerous means 1631 02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:50,239 that the animal has either bitten someone, escaped the property, attacked 1632 02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:54,400 another animal. It does not mean that we want to keep your animal, and you will 1633 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:58,880 not get it back. It means that if this animal is deemed dangerous, it goes home 1634 02:09:56,960 --> 02:10:05,040 with stipulations that it can no longer run loose, has to stay confined, has to 1635 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:10,719 have a muzzle if it leaves the property, also has to be spayed or neutered. 1636 02:10:08,239 --> 02:10:17,599 According to the records, Kaa being the older Great Pyrenees, the female, she's 1637 02:10:13,679 --> 02:10:23,040 already spayed according to our records. The younger one is the male. We know 1638 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:25,360 that he's intact. >> Excuse me, sir. 1639 02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:27,440 » The video that Excuse me, just one second. There's some type of disturbance 1640 02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:31,119 going on. >> They're watching video. 1641 02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:35,040 » Okay. Well, you may want to you may want to freeze it while he's making his 1642 02:10:32,239 --> 02:10:37,520 presentation. Right. 1643 02:10:36,239 --> 02:10:42,639 » No. So, >> I'm I'm thinking as a dog or pencil. 1644 02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:49,679 » So, when we run into these instance in instances or these situations, it is not 1645 02:10:45,119 --> 02:10:52,480 solely on me to deem a dog dangerous. I give the owners an opportunity. Hey, you 1646 02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:57,040 can agree with the dangerous stipulations or it can go before the 1647 02:10:54,239 --> 02:11:03,040 board. The board reviews the information with the owner and with the victim and 1648 02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:06,719 they make their determination. They made the determination that the 1649 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:11,520 dogs are dangerous. You have videos that you can watch. It 1650 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:16,639 is solely up to you. If you want to uphold, you want to kick it back. It's 1651 02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:21,920 totally up to you. >> Right. Um, thank you. Thank you very 1652 02:11:18,719 --> 02:11:27,119 much for your u presentation. Um, just so that the general public can be made 1653 02:11:24,159 --> 02:11:31,920 aware of what the process is. Um there was an incident on a particular date 1654 02:11:29,599 --> 02:11:33,360 involving uh the two animals in question, 1655 02:11:32,639 --> 02:11:37,440 » right? >> Um there was a complaint that was 1656 02:11:35,599 --> 02:11:40,960 forwarded to your office. >> Yes. 1657 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:42,480 » The board convened and listened to both sides of the case. 1658 02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:46,400 » Yes. >> And they rendered a decision that the 1659 02:11:44,239 --> 02:11:50,639 dog met the criteria for being characterized as dangerous. 1660 02:11:48,239 --> 02:11:54,560 » Yes. Subsequent to that, subsequent to that, uh, the parties, uh, the owners of 1661 02:11:53,679 --> 02:11:57,840 the dog, >> the two dogs, 1662 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:59,040 » uh, filed an appeal. Yes. Before the commission. 1663 02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:02,320 » Yes. >> To overturn the Bo decision. 1664 02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,400 » Yes. >> Is that pretty, that pretty much sums it 1665 02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:08,000 up? >> Yes, sir. 1666 02:12:05,119 --> 02:12:12,639 » Okay. And so, uh, I I guess, um, at this point, we'll, uh, 1667 02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:16,800 commissioners to, uh, make an observation or question or whatever they 1668 02:12:14,239 --> 02:12:22,480 want to do. Commissioner John Fang. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, 1669 02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:25,599 » Director Clark, can you tell me is it both dogs that were deemed dangerous or 1670 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,719 just one? >> Both. 1671 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:30,159 » Both. >> Both. Both dogs are at large. Both dogs 1672 02:12:28,719 --> 02:12:32,960 are in the video. >> Mhm. 1673 02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:36,560 » You don't want to differentiate one dog from the other. 1674 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:40,400 » Which dog is it? Is it the older one or the younger one that we can see um doing 1675 02:12:38,639 --> 02:12:45,199 the bite? >> We believe that is the male, but again, 1676 02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:50,159 both dogs are at large, >> right? I'm just trying to see. So I can 1677 02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:52,880 see >> and they gray white paint. They both 1678 02:12:51,679 --> 02:12:55,599 look alike. >> They look pretty similar. 1679 02:12:54,639 --> 02:12:59,280 » Yeah, >> one of them has like a little Oh, they 1680 02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:02,560 both have >> nipp the uh other dog. That was the 1681 02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:07,599 male. >> That was the the the younger dog. 1682 02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:11,119 » The old >> Okay. And you've you've got your older 1683 02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:13,119 dog has like a little black spot right here. 1684 02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:16,159 » Probably better. >> Okay. 1685 02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:20,880 » I think that's a point of information. >> Sure. 1686 02:13:18,079 --> 02:13:23,440 Young, if you would uh could we show the video? Yes, I think I think that'll be 1687 02:13:22,639 --> 02:13:25,040 helpful. >> That'd be great. 1688 02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:30,000 » General public too. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Uh if it if it 1689 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:32,239 pleases you, Commissioner jumped to show the video. 1690 02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:36,639 » While we're pulling it up, I would just like to observe that. So, for a dog to 1691 02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:40,639 be dangerous, it does not have to bite another dog. It merely has to attack 1692 02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:47,360 unprovoked, and that can be just charging in a menacing manner. 1693 02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:52,239 So, um, what I see in the video is, and it has to be, you know, not in the dog's 1694 02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:55,679 own yard. Um, so what I see in the video, this is the second video. If you 1695 02:13:54,639 --> 02:13:58,679 show the first one, it's a little clearer. 1696 02:14:01,119 --> 02:14:09,840 So, was that the is that the boy dog that bit the other dog? 1697 02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:14,639 » Okay. So, what I see in the video is um the first one is these two dogs are on 1698 02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:20,000 public property first, the street, and then they run onto private property. And 1699 02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:25,760 like not only do they charge in a menacing manner, but one of them bites 1700 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:29,360 another dog. And um that is the definition of a dangerous dog. 1701 02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:33,520 » Oh, we're a mile away from their house. >> Oh, and they're more than a mile away 1702 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:38,159 from their house. Okay. So like um I would also like to just so now I have 1703 02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:43,760 the information that I wanted. Um what I would like to observe for the public is 1704 02:14:40,639 --> 02:14:48,320 great Pyrenees are wonderful super sweet dogs. I have a great Pyrenees mix 1705 02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:52,079 myself. He's mixed with a border collie. He likes to get out and he likes to roam 1706 02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:57,440 and I have to make sure he doesn't. He's old now so he doesn't do it as much. Um, 1707 02:14:55,040 --> 02:15:05,280 my dog has never run up to another dog and bit it or charged any other dog in a 1708 02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:12,000 menacing way. But those are the elements that are the definition of a dangerous 1709 02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:17,040 dog in Kat Parish. And if I was this dog owner uh whose yard they ran into and 1710 02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:24,000 whose dog they bit, I would feel very strongly that those dogs had attacked my 1711 02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:28,880 dog and were dangerous. even though I love this kind of dog and I think 1712 02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:33,119 they're wonderful. So, what I would suggest, and I'll make 1713 02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:38,400 a motion later because I've already started speaking, what I would suggest 1714 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:42,560 is that we um acknowledge that finding a dog dangerous means it has to wear a 1715 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:47,520 muzzle and a collar that says, "I'm dangerous. It does not have to be 1716 02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:52,480 killed, but especially in the case of dogs that have a habit of getting out 1717 02:15:49,679 --> 02:15:57,440 like this breed does, like this is going to happen again 1718 02:15:54,480 --> 02:16:02,320 if it goes outside without a muzzle on and the gate is open. So, I think it 1719 02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:07,440 would be appropriate for us to like go ahead and uphold that dangerous because 1720 02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:13,760 they did everything that a dangerous dog has to do under our law to be considered 1721 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:19,119 dangerous. and um caution the owners very strongly that they must not let 1722 02:16:16,079 --> 02:16:23,840 this ever ever ever happen again because two attacks by a dog means it has to be 1723 02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:28,239 put down and these are wonderful dogs and I don't want to see them put down. 1724 02:16:27,199 --> 02:16:32,399 » Thank you, Mr. President. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Appreciate um 1725 02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:38,000 your observations. I think I may add that um Commissioner John Paul Young is 1726 02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:42,800 a for former chair of the U animal and mosquito control committee. 1727 02:16:40,399 --> 02:16:46,639 » So he is >> well but he's very very well versed on 1728 02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:50,880 this issue and I do appreciate your contribution. Uh Commissioner Ken 1729 02:16:48,639 --> 02:16:55,599 Eperson, >> Mr. President, I'd like to make a motion 1730 02:16:52,399 --> 02:17:00,719 that the dog be deemed as uh dangerous and be put under the oposes of uh 1731 02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:04,960 whatever those stipulations are. I need a second. Second. 1732 02:17:03,519 --> 02:17:10,760 » Can I say something? >> Not not at this not at this time. We'll 1733 02:17:07,359 --> 02:17:10,760 give you an opportunity. 1734 02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:28,479 » Give me an opportunity to speak after Commissioner um Trac Blake. 1735 02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:34,880 Go ahead. >> Thank you, Mr. President. Could you 1736 02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:40,240 clarify to us what Commissioner John Paul Young was sharing that 1737 02:17:37,599 --> 02:17:45,120 if a dog is bitten twice, they can be put down? 1738 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:46,080 » If a dog attacks twice, 1739 02:17:45,679 --> 02:17:48,800 » okay, >> twice. 1740 02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:52,719 » All right. >> Would you share that to make that clear? 1741 02:17:50,639 --> 02:17:56,479 I thought I think what he what he's what he's trying what what he's trying to 1742 02:17:54,319 --> 02:18:01,200 convey is any dog that is deemed dangerous because this offense could 1743 02:17:58,960 --> 02:18:07,439 deem the dog dangerous. If the dog goes home and has another incident off of 1744 02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:14,000 that property chasing someone, biting another animal, biting a human, it can 1745 02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:19,200 automatically be upgraded to vicious. When an animal is deemed vicious and it 1746 02:18:16,880 --> 02:18:26,040 is upheld, that animal is humanely euthanized. that is not allowed to 1747 02:18:21,359 --> 02:18:26,040 return home at that point. 1748 02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:30,960 Am I correct, Commissioner? That's what he was. 1749 02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:34,240 » That's what he was trying to >> behavior, 1750 02:18:31,679 --> 02:18:36,240 » right? >> Right. 1751 02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:39,760 » Second instance of the same behavior means it'll come back before the board 1752 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:43,120 and if they deem it vicious and we uphold any appeal, then the dog has to 1753 02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:45,599 be euthanized because we don't allow vicious dogs, 1754 02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:50,319 » right? It's like he's on a life probation. You got one strike, 1755 02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:52,319 » right? >> Right. 1756 02:18:50,719 --> 02:18:55,519 » Right. So, the dangerous dog stipulations prevent any other attack if 1757 02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:58,479 they're followed. >> Right. 1758 02:18:57,040 --> 02:19:03,599 Because >> because he wears a muzzle. 1759 02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:09,920 » Right. And and as I understand it, um if something similar to this occurs 1760 02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:14,319 after he's been found deemed to be dangerous, then he's considered a 1761 02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:17,040 vicious dog. He has to go through the same process to be considered a 1762 02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:23,880 » Absolutely. Absolutely. You still have to The dog still gets due process, 1763 02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:23,880 » right? Sure. 1764 02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:31,519 » So, the dogs can run freely on the property 1765 02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:35,599 without being muzzled. It's just But if it was off of the property 1766 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:40,000 » within the enclosed yard, they can. Once they leave their property, if they leave 1767 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:44,000 confinement of that yard or that house, then they're legally they're supposed to 1768 02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:49,920 be Muslims. And it could be is a specific muzzle or 1769 02:19:46,639 --> 02:19:53,359 just one of the muzzles that >> muzzle that prevents them from biting. 1770 02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:59,280 » Okay. So different types of muzzle. So it would be their choice of muzzle 1771 02:19:56,880 --> 02:20:01,600 » as long as they don't bite anybody. >> Okay. I was just wondering because I 1772 02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:03,680 have different types of muzzles. I I have a dog that I sometimes, you know, 1773 02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:08,319 muzzle. >> But I think what he's saying, and of 1774 02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:11,040 course he can speak for himself. >> Yeah. want to whatever kind of muzzle he 1775 02:20:10,160 --> 02:20:13,439 wants to. >> But if the dog is out and if the dog 1776 02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:15,760 bites on >> off the property, 1777 02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:19,760 » then that means the the muzzle didn't work. 1778 02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:20,880 » Yes. Okay. >> Okay. 1779 02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:24,640 » Thank you. >> Um and of course, you know, this is not 1780 02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:30,720 something that that we do every week or every month. And so, you know, we we all 1781 02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:34,000 need to make sure that we enjoy great latitude and trying to get an 1782 02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:37,600 understanding about the process. >> May I ask for a point of clarification 1783 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:42,080 regarding Commissioner Blake's question? >> Um 1784 02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:47,520 Director Clark, uh, on a on a property that's large. Uh, I'm not I I haven't 1785 02:20:45,359 --> 02:20:51,600 dealt with a case of a dangerous dog on a large property before, except that one 1786 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:57,600 where we um where they paid for the sheep and um so like isn't there a 1787 02:20:55,359 --> 02:21:03,200 prescribed enclosure that's supposed to be made? 1788 02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:06,800 » It can be it can be recommended. 1789 02:21:04,399 --> 02:21:12,800 » Okay. You know, you you all can say, "Hey, this dog will be allowed to go 1790 02:21:09,439 --> 02:21:19,040 home, but we want to add that it needs to have a concreted enclosure, however 1791 02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:21,359 many feet, concrete floor, uh has to have a lock on it." 1792 02:21:20,880 --> 02:21:25,040 » Okay. >> You you can you all can do that. 1793 02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:28,240 » Okay. Um >> the board did not make that 1794 02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:31,520 recommendation, but >> that is a recommendation that can be 1795 02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:36,319 made because we have had people who've had to have dogs and they'll put them in 1796 02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:40,640 like a 10 by10 concrete the bottom enclosed the top has to have a lock on 1797 02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:45,040 it. >> Okay. Well, so just like one sentence 1798 02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:49,359 beyond my point of clarification in this case, I would say like if it was my dog 1799 02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:54,399 whenever it went outside, I would put one of those buzzles on it just to be 1800 02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:58,319 safe. But I I don't want to force this roaming happy farm dog to live inside a 1801 02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:03,600 kennel. >> Right. 1802 02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:08,399 All right. Thank you. U Commissioner um Commissioner Eperson. 1803 02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:12,000 You just have your motion. Um at this time, I want to permit uh the dog owner 1804 02:22:11,359 --> 02:22:17,600 uh to make >> I'd like to explain 1805 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:22,960 how I got my farm set up. Now, I know my female, the older one, she's the 1806 02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:29,520 instigator. She's the ROR. I built a pasture fence for her last year. She has 1807 02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:34,000 not been out of that since. She's the one that instigates the Roman. He don't 1808 02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:39,359 go nowhere. He stays right there on the probably got three acres. 1809 02:22:36,960 --> 02:22:43,280 I went and with the motor grass, she was on the other side of the pasture. Before 1810 02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:47,439 I could get the tractor in there, she got out and they got out. They have not 1811 02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:53,280 been out in a year since I buil built that fence. She's the one that roams. He 1812 02:22:50,960 --> 02:22:58,000 does not leave the property at all. Period. 1813 02:22:55,040 --> 02:23:05,359 And that's why I say I, you know, if you deem him vicious or dangerous, 1814 02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:10,960 then he cannot be outside the little pasture at the house to take care of our 1815 02:23:08,399 --> 02:23:16,640 animals, which is what they're there for. Like I said, we've lost cats. We've 1816 02:23:14,399 --> 02:23:21,920 lost chickens since he's been locked up. Uh our neighbors Gabriel, they've lost 1817 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:28,240 30 ducks because he watches their whichever probably butts up to ours. 1818 02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:30,960 As long as she is locked up in her pin, which she ain't been out in years. My 1819 02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:35,200 fault she got out cuz I'm mowing the grass. 1820 02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:38,800 He does not. He goes to the end of the our driveway, which our driveway is 1821 02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:42,960 probably a half a mile long. And he'll sit right there 1822 02:23:40,960 --> 02:23:49,040 and he stays in the yard. He never leaves. Period. And to put vicious that 1823 02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:53,359 I've got to keep him on a muzzle and it's just they can't do their job. I 1824 02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:57,760 mean it's more or less you might as well put them down because I've got dogs 1825 02:23:55,520 --> 02:24:02,319 locked up. He knows I got great pyrenees locked up. They can't do their job. 1826 02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:10,040 That's what they're raised for and born for is to take care of our farm animals. 1827 02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:10,040 And then just 1828 02:24:10,319 --> 02:24:17,520 if I mean if there's something we can do not where they ain't vicious. I know I 1829 02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:20,319 know she'll never get back out again. But I'll make sure I tie her up before I 1830 02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:27,439 » right >> undo that. And can we put a uh shot 1831 02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:32,080 collar to keep him in the a more confined area in our property or 1832 02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:35,840 something? I just don't want them deemed vicious because you got a Muslim. But to 1833 02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:40,479 be clear, I apologize for interrupting you, but to be clear, he's not being 1834 02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:42,560 deemed vicious. That's a whole another level. 1835 02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:47,120 » Okay. But dangerous, don't they still have to be muzzled and kept and kept in 1836 02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:52,960 a pin? >> So, let me let me ask you this. U 1837 02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:55,439 because um you are describing uh some um well, I would say different 1838 02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:58,560 circumstances um in comparison to what people would 1839 02:24:57,359 --> 02:25:02,800 normally be dealing with in a neighborhood. uh your your dog is 1840 02:25:00,880 --> 02:25:03,520 essentially uh your dogs are a working dog, 1841 02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:09,520 » right? >> And their their mission is to protect 1842 02:25:06,160 --> 02:25:12,399 your farm animals uh from predators, >> right? 1843 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:14,560 » Other, you know, wild animals and so forth. 1844 02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:21,600 » And so what you're saying is that your dogs by uh the way that um uh you use 1845 02:25:18,640 --> 02:25:25,840 them is outside of the fence is outside of the fence. 1846 02:25:22,399 --> 02:25:26,960 » No. No. Well, she stays in about an acre fence, 1847 02:25:26,479 --> 02:25:29,760 » right, >> with the goats, 1848 02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:34,319 » right? >> Cuz she's the one that likes to roam. He 1849 02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:36,560 don't he don't roam unless she's out, >> right? 1850 02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:39,280 » And they've been put out now. Now, him he he guards the other two acres. 1851 02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:43,040 » Yes, sir. >> Which is in the yard. We live on a dead 1852 02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:45,040 end in street and there's nothing but woods around us. 1853 02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:46,880 » Yes, I understand. But just so that everybody would kind of be on the same 1854 02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:52,080 page. >> She's she's still put up in a big 1855 02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:55,600 » acre fence and he's >> right. But he's not. 1856 02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:59,200 » But the space that they are protecting your livestock is inside is already 1857 02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:01,520 inside of a fence. >> Some of some of it is. 1858 02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:06,880 » Okay. >> Some of it is. 1859 02:26:04,319 --> 02:26:09,760 » But your but your animals do any of your animals, your livestock, do they roam 1860 02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:11,600 outside of the fence? >> Oh, the chickens do. 1861 02:26:10,880 --> 02:26:14,960 » The chickens do. >> Yeah. 1862 02:26:12,399 --> 02:26:21,040 » Well, okay. it. What what I'm saying is that I 1863 02:26:18,399 --> 02:26:25,600 I I know you suggested earlier that if we if we vote and that's not yet 1864 02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:30,240 determined, but if we vote to to render your dog dangerous, your two dogs 1865 02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:33,120 dangerous, you suggested that it would really disqualify them from doing their 1866 02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:36,640 work. >> But if their job is to protect the 1867 02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:39,920 animals inside of the fence, right, >> that does not disqualify them from doing 1868 02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:41,680 the work. >> I understand that. 1869 02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:46,240 » You understand what I'm saying? >> Right. Essentially, essentially 1870 02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:51,359 essentially the animals will be put on sort of a probation, right? 1871 02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:53,920 » If this never happens again, it it would never rise to the level of vicious. 1872 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:58,399 » Okay? >> You know, unless he attacks somebody uh 1873 02:26:56,479 --> 02:27:02,560 in the manner that he just did, right? >> And of course, uh you know, I more 1874 02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:06,880 learned that animal control guy uh that sits over there. Um Mr. Travis, if if 1875 02:27:05,280 --> 02:27:11,680 I'm mistaken in this regard, you know, please correct me. Uh the way I 1876 02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:16,319 understand it is that if if the dog is inside of the the fence, he doesn't have 1877 02:27:14,319 --> 02:27:20,080 to have to wear a muzzle. >> And so he wouldn't be restricted from 1878 02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:24,880 doing the work that you have commissioned him to do. If any any 1879 02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:30,560 livestock is threatened by animal that has come to that perimeter, your dog can 1880 02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:35,200 still do his job. And so this does not in fact based on you know what you've 1881 02:27:32,960 --> 02:27:39,760 what you stated here and what's been conveyed you know by your spouse this 1882 02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:44,800 does not disqualify your dog from doing the work that you want him to do if he's 1883 02:27:42,319 --> 02:27:48,479 if he's rendered to be dangerous and so if your dog is not in the habit of doing 1884 02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:51,840 this type of conducting himself in this way you should never ever have a 1885 02:27:50,399 --> 02:27:54,960 problem. This would be >> you know like one of these moments and 1886 02:27:53,359 --> 02:27:59,600 you say yeah back in the day you know I had the dog did this and this happened. 1887 02:27:57,359 --> 02:28:02,640 Yeah, but um but Lucy was a wonderful dog. I'm not saying your dog name is 1888 02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:07,359 Lucy, but I'm just saying >> um you kind of on the same page because 1889 02:28:05,359 --> 02:28:12,720 you know we take we take your concerns very seriously as a governing body 1890 02:28:09,680 --> 02:28:15,920 » but at the same time you know we value human life. Yes. 1891 02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:18,399 » Right. So we have to protect the citizens. 1892 02:28:16,319 --> 02:28:21,840 » I would just like if y'all just if y'all could have just met the dogs like I when 1893 02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:25,920 I was in the meeting with them and everybody raised their hand said the 1894 02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:29,920 bishes. No, no, they watch. That's a different It's not when I was in there 1895 02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:31,920 and I'm like, you know, I'm tell y'all didn't Yes, sir. 1896 02:28:30,640 --> 02:28:35,520 » Y'all don't know the dogs, right? >> Y'all could go to the pound right now, 1897 02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:37,280 talk to everybody's there for the last month. 1898 02:28:36,160 --> 02:28:38,240 » They lick you to death. >> Yes, sir. 1899 02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:41,600 » You know. >> Yes, sir. But these are the these people 1900 02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:44,640 that sit up here typically, they're very fair-minded folk, you know, you know, 1901 02:28:43,359 --> 02:28:48,319 they're not coming after those. That's not, you know, what we do. 1902 02:28:46,319 --> 02:28:53,200 » Okay. All right. Anybody else have any other Let's see. Commissioner, let's 1903 02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:56,800 see. Um I know you're still on the board for the motion, right? Okay. And and so 1904 02:28:55,280 --> 02:29:02,080 John Pow, you had another observation you wanted to make. 1905 02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:07,600 » Yes, Mr. President. Thank you. So, um the stakes are high if these dogs get 1906 02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:13,680 out again and do this whether they're deemed vicious or not because I saw them 1907 02:29:10,479 --> 02:29:20,880 attack a dog in a neighborhood, not on a farm, and we were told it's a mile away. 1908 02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:27,040 So, I don't want that to happen again because of a vote that I make. So, um if 1909 02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:31,520 if they're deemed dangerous and they stay inside their fence, that's fine. 1910 02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:34,960 And this wouldn't have hap we would never have seen this video if they had 1911 02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:41,280 stayed inside their fence the first time. So, like I'm going to vote to deem 1912 02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:47,359 them to uphold the deeming that they're dangerous. And if it was my dog, I would 1913 02:29:44,880 --> 02:29:51,120 want to protect it from ever having the chance of doing this again and getting 1914 02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:56,960 put down as a result of it. And I would put a muzzle on him when he goes 1915 02:29:52,720 --> 02:30:00,080 outside. But inside their fence, it's up to them whether they muzzle it or not. 1916 02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:04,880 And I understand they're on a farm, and that's a wonderful setting for this kind 1917 02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:09,920 of dog. Um, but it is 100% immaterial 1918 02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:13,520 to the question whether a dog is dangerous or not. if he is super 1919 02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:17,840 friendly to people and will lick your hand in the pound or in any other 1920 02:30:15,040 --> 02:30:21,200 setting. The only thing that matters for whether a dog is dangerous or not is 1921 02:30:19,439 --> 02:30:27,920 whether a dog has done exactly what we saw in the video, which is attack 1922 02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:32,240 somebody or their dog unprovoked in a place that's not their own yard. 1923 02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:34,240 » But we don't know that he was on >> Well, 1924 02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:40,640 » when he was at the end of that driveway, that dog was sir. Sir, a dog on a leash 1925 02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:45,280 on its own property cannot possibly be provoking another dog. 1926 02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:50,160 » So, they ran th those dogs ran from the street into somebody's yard 1927 02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:54,399 » without being teased or summoned or anything. So, that's the definition of a 1928 02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:58,080 dangerous dog. And I'm sorry because these are wonderful, sweet breeds, but 1929 02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,600 I'm going to vote that way. All right. >> Thank you. 1930 02:30:58,399 --> 02:31:02,479 » All right. Thank you, Commissioner uh Commissioner Atkins. 1931 02:31:00,800 --> 02:31:09,359 » Thank you, Mr. President. I just wanted to um respectfully 1932 02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:14,720 make sure our our our owners understand that, you know, if we vote for this dog 1933 02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:20,160 to be considered dangerous, then he's basically on probation. He's free to do 1934 02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:23,520 what you want him to do, but if he were to get out and have another incident 1935 02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:26,880 like this, he would then be upgraded to vicious, or maybe I should say 1936 02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:29,920 downgraded to vicious. So, I just want to make sure you all understand. And I 1937 02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:33,040 don't I want you to be able to I want you and your dogs to be able to enjoy 1938 02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:36,960 the life that you want to enjoy. I just want you to be aware of the situation 1939 02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:39,200 and use care and caution. And I say that with due respect. Thank you, Mr. 1940 02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:42,479 President. >> All right. Thank you for your 1941 02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:45,280 observation and your comments, Commissioner Atkins. All right, Mr. 1942 02:31:44,399 --> 02:31:48,760 Cler. >> Okay, we ready? 1943 02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:56,960 » Explain explain what the vote means. If you vote yes, it means we'll 1944 02:31:54,399 --> 02:32:00,640 » a vote to uphold the decision uh of the deeming of the dog as dangerous. 1945 02:31:58,479 --> 02:32:06,479 » And if you vote no, >> the dogs as dangerous and voting no uh 1946 02:32:04,479 --> 02:32:08,960 would would require another motion to be made, 1947 02:32:07,359 --> 02:32:11,840 » right? >> Okay, because 1948 02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:13,520 » it would it would not deem the dogs, >> right? Forgive me. 1949 02:32:12,640 --> 02:32:17,280 » It would not uphold, >> right? You're voting to uphold the 1950 02:32:15,359 --> 02:32:20,399 decision. If this doesn't pass, right, >> then we'd need another motion. The 1951 02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:24,800 reason why I was concerned is because I I thought we were hearing an appeal and 1952 02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:27,200 normally when you're hearing an appeal, you vote yes, you're agreeing with the 1953 02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:30,560 appeal. >> Thank you for that clarification. Yes, 1954 02:32:28,560 --> 02:32:35,680 that the mo the motion, however, was made to uphold. So, and as opposed to uh 1955 02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:39,280 saying yes or no because you're right, a lot of times our agenda items are 1956 02:32:37,200 --> 02:32:42,960 phrased in the affirmative. Uh but this being an appeal, the motion that was 1957 02:32:41,120 --> 02:32:45,359 made was made to uphold the decision of the previous body that heard this. 1958 02:32:44,479 --> 02:32:50,920 » That's right. I just want to make sure that was clear with everyone. 1959 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:50,920 All righty. 1960 02:32:54,399 --> 02:33:00,600 » So, a yes vote upholds the the dangerous dog determination. 1961 02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:05,479 » Commissioner Catherine is affirmative. 1962 02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:11,640 » That's what I'm doing right now. 1963 02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:22,479 Okay. That uh motion carries with aid in support, none in opposition. Uh that 1964 02:33:19,280 --> 02:33:28,640 that uh that uh dangerous dog determination is with is upheld. Um and 1965 02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:35,200 that uh case number two, we do not have the appellant here today. Um I'm not 1966 02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:41,120 sure how to I guess we will go ahead and hear the KTO 1967 02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:44,800 uh animal services summary or I'm not sure how y'all want to proceed with 1968 02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:47,920 that. Maybe our parish attorney may have a suggestion. 1969 02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:52,720 » Um, commissioners, it's my understanding that the um appellant contacted the 1970 02:33:50,960 --> 02:33:55,040 clerk's office and stated that they had an emergency due to flooding. 1971 02:33:54,560 --> 02:33:59,280 » That is correct. >> Um, which I'm not aware if they're 1972 02:33:57,120 --> 02:34:04,240 currently here in the parish. I would suggest that this be continued to the 1973 02:34:01,200 --> 02:34:08,319 next regular meeting that he be notified um via certified mail that it will be 1974 02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:13,600 continued. >> Okay. We have a motion by Victor uh 1975 02:34:10,160 --> 02:34:17,840 Thomas and a second by Ken Epson. >> Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to 1976 02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:24,000 make a motion to postpone the appeal um the appellet um hearing to allow um the 1977 02:34:20,880 --> 02:34:28,800 Galvin um appeal to be able to be present and allow some like the request 1978 02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:34,280 to certified notice. >> Okay, Commissioner. 1979 02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:34,280 All right, let's vote. 1980 02:34:36,960 --> 02:34:41,800 And Commissioner Cauman is also voting in the affirmative. 1981 02:34:42,399 --> 02:34:48,160 And that motion carries with eight in support, none in opposition and four 1982 02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:54,479 absent. Uh brings us to communication committee report second round. 1983 02:34:51,280 --> 02:35:01,280 Anybody? Nobody. I just want to uh take this opportunity to to acknowledge and 1984 02:34:56,399 --> 02:35:05,120 to thank our our very uh handsome u law enforcement officers and our very 1985 02:35:02,960 --> 02:35:08,960 beautiful law enforcement officers that are ladies and really do appreciate you 1986 02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:13,240 know your presence and uh your participation. Thank you very much.