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Good morning and welcome to the February 15, 2022 board meeting. We will be opening up into closed session.

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don't number one, pursuant to government code section 54957.6 conference with county designated labor negotiators Judy Hawkins and

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Shay Johnson regarding the following employee organizations,

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Calabers Public Safety Employment Association, CCPSEA.

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Is there any public comment?

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I know we have an audio issues online, but is there any one that they're able to get food?

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There is no public comment.

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Okay. Without we're closed into closed session and for the public if we're delayed it because of

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audio issues. We're still working on it. Thank you.

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Back in the matrix.

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Good morning. Good morning and

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welcome back to the Tuesday February 15, 2022 meeting at this time we'll stand for the pledge.

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would be probably, or would you stand one nation, under God, into the zone, with the liberty

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and in us as a sprawl.

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And we put out for a close-up operation.

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I don't number one pursuant to government co-section 54957.6 conference.

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The county does need labor negotiators, Judy Hopkins and Shade Johnson, regarding the following

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Employee Organizations, Calivers, Public Safety Employees, Association, CCP, SCA.

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There was no report of action taken.

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Thank you.

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Without one move on to staff announcement.

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This is a time for tiny staff to provide updates.

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I believe we have the service.

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The service fund.

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There you go.

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Good morning.

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want to share that that's going to make sure fall and dark and other members of

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all.

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I'm a illustrious board all we're doing today.

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I just want to bring to your folks as attention some things that the sheriff's office

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is doing in the whatnot recruiting, deputies, and other staff for the county.

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Right now, we're down seven deputies, four dispatchers, six correctional officers, and two

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correctional technicians,

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the low and

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smaller and smaller.

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People are finding other avenues for work, which is unusual because the federal government

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is telling us our unemployment rates are way down, but we're having a hard time finding

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people I want to get in the law enforcement in one aspect or another. We're having that

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piece quitting because they just want to be police officers anymore. And the pool is shrinking

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because of this, not that it's a bad thing but the requirements that are being brought to light

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for the police officers as a whole are getting, again, more stringent. So we're more going to

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empathetic and helping us get people hired on and moving people through our process, which

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has been great.

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I would like to share with you folks today, as I have about a two-minute video that I have

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talked to some supervisors that they have never seen and I would like to give them the opportunity

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to see this.

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So I am going to attempt to share my screen and I am about as technologically challenged

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it does it gets. And let's see if I can do this.

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And you guys, is it sure? Yes.

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Can you see this? Okay, coming up.

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We have a new update that come to the work of Cali.

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This is a unique opportunity. I know it because that effects of the job.

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Wanted the board to see what we're doing to try and help promote the sheriff's office for the county.

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Any questions, comments, concerns?

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you, Mr. Divesolio.

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You know, finally put forth.

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It looks like, you know, you did a lot good information.

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Good luck. Hopefully we can, you know,

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advertise Calvers County is the place that more

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long enforcement officers want to be.

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Thank you. Absolutely.

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And just, you know, we do, on Saturday,

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we actually have five.

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Well, we sent four people to the Academy, and we were able to pick up a fifth out of that

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Academy.

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So on Saturday, we will be graduating five folks from the Academy that will come out

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and be on our training program that is not reflective of the seven that we're still short.

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We had we were down 12, now we're down seven.

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But again, we're putting more people into the Stanislaus Academy in March and into the Delta Academy in March also.

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So we're moving forward and again, I got to give Kudos out to the HR department.

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They've been very helpful in getting these people into the process and move forward.

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Thank you for your time and you folks have a fantastic day.

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you provide the following?

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Sheriff, where are you using this?

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How are you using this?

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It's excuse me.

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It's been put out on Facebook.

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We advertise it in multiple areas.

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Almost social media.

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This has been put out on.

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I repost it on my Sheriff's Facebook page, my private page.

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On the Sheriff's Office.

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we've posted on our sheriff's office social media pages every so often just to keep

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the interest going and it's it's out we actually have taken it down to the

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academies and showed it at the academies and been able to pick up people out of

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the academies so well so we can so if you'd like to share it you're more than welcome

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thank you

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all right you guys have a good day thank you

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Are there any other staff announcements?

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There aren't other staff announcements.

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With that, we'll move on to the public health update.

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Ms. Allen.

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Good morning, Chair.

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Members of the Board.

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I'm going to help you in terms of agency director.

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We need to do well.

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We need to record public health.

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All we have is we have a lot.

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Not kind of medical centers to see you in the departure.

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Then you have a officer doctor whenever you're in the US.

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Today we want to give you some information.

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So basically the first one I will open up the side deck.

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Okay, so today's February 15th, we have our 6,989 confirmed cases of COVID-19

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virus, and currently we're looking at 42 active six hospitalizations.

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We have 57% of our eligible population who have accelerated.

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But, looking down, 7.29% fully vaccinated in February, but those youth aged 12 to 17 years old,

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but at the 30% 30.3% to be exact.

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We chose 6,840 of part cases, and sadly we've seen 107 fatalities due to the COVID-19 virus.

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We often want to see where we're at with our booster, where over 10,000 booster is provided to local residents.

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This data is affected as of yesterday.

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For the make-up cases, when we consider vaccination versus those who are unvaccinated,

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you can see here that you are almost six times more likely to contract COVID-19 if you are not fully vaccinated.

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For this start and the fact that you can see in this data set comes straight from the California Department of Health and this is a one week capture and the January this year.

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To keep it to look at those that further those who enter the hospital due to symptoms of COVID-19 and 11 and a half percent or times more likely to be hospitalized when they're not for the accident.

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it, so they will set same code at the time. But look at here, unvaccinated deaths are 21.8 times,

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more likely to occur for those that are unvaccinated. So this will be best be to the critical

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buttons of continuing to move forward a vaccination strategy. You will know that there are new

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My lines that have come out are going to be announced these yesterday, and last few of

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the reports that have to apply the wrongs prior to our winter planning.

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So, for our indoor applications, if you are vaccinated, the language being used is probably

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recommended to continue to wear a mask, because unvaccinated is a requirement that is going

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to be able to apply a mask that you wear a mask.

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Parties and local health restrictions can impose more strict order to the records that

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not last.

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Schools, masking information is separated out that information will be released in two weeks

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on February 28th, but is a roadmap being developed, information will follow soon.

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I don't set points to the power for the Department of Public Health Guidelines, for its guidance,

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and for the services or entities, for the most strength.

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So we do have Judy Hawkins to speak to that, and to that relates to the power she can follow.

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It's not that I was aware of that.

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Thank you for your time.

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Madam Chair, the members of the Board.

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So Kalashad does point to the city page for guidance and if the board members in August we had decided at that time to have all employees

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regardless of vaccination status to where face coverings win in the workplace.

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One of the main reasons that this was important was it was allowing those that were

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vaccinated to not wear face coverings and then employees who are not

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how to wear face coverings.

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We had a division in the workplace. It also made tremendous employees concerned that those around them may not be vaccinated, but not wearing face coverings. We had had many conversations with the unions and had fought forward a more strict policy when we did our update in August.

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And, although in December, the governor of Governor Newsome had stated that, you know, we

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will follow guidelines put out via the city page.

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It is still a recommendation that we continue to our face coverings in the workplace.

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Thank you, Ms. Hopkins.

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So, we do all two amounts that we put out a community health incentive coming out

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of the population received limited funds to 113,000 to provide themselves to carry the

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members who are doing their part in the fight against COVID-19, and that is in

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one of the public health care records purchased that will come up with a business to

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incentivize those who receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

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So to become vaccinated, that includes the time to start a July 1st of last year, and

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through April 30th of this year.

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Instead of downloading to those who are residents of Paris County,

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registration is expected to open as soon as February 20th.

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You can see we have five participants, business of locally,

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that includes the grocery out there in those friends,

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so Mark and Angel's film, remote care,

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and lots and lots of bodies,

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running for an extra level.

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For all limitations, these thick codes cannot be used

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to purchase alcohol, so that we can tune our own cannabis products.

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And let us share in that turn of this presentation over to Dr. Rivera,

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to talk with us about the trends in COVID-19.

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Dr. Rivera, what's your name, California?

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We continue to see state of problems of the unacroned variants.

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Dr. Rivera is very much dwindled, but it's frustrating here and there.

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I think the overall message that we just want to drive home with that presentation is the approach of vaccines and boosters.

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Vaccines and boosters are safe, ineffective, and the decrease mobility and mortality across the board.

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Just some personal story.

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My kids had COVID, just a few weeks ago, and my son came home with it.

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He and it was just the week before he was eligible to get his booster.

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And then eventually, he got his symptoms a lot worse than the other kids and he was fine.

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He thankfully didn't have to be hospitalized right there.

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But he had a really bad sore throat, a really bad aches.

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And then my two daughters, they also got COVID, but they had just received their vaccines.

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Just a few months ago, and they were fantastic.

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Thankfully, my life and I did not get COVID, and we did not drop any of them from sore tests out there.

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But we also had just received our boosters.

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this winter as well. So, no, just one story amongst all the others, but I can't tell you

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and to have it. How many stories? How many highlights? How many difficult conversations

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I've had to have with so many members in the community regarding the last of their loved one.

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And it just also so happened to be that they were not vaccinated. So, please protect yourself, protect your family, protect your friends,

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in curves, getting colored vaccines and the boosters.

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It also lives and it will keep you out of the hospital.

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And so now, let's move on to the adventure of the CEO of Natural Medical Summit.

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Good morning. Thank you, Goli.

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So, the information you see on this slide back

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over its front Thursday, so it remains after it.

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We have seven invasions that are covered part of the day

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of those seven of four

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B, I'm sorry, three are in the ICU, or on that search.

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Generally, they've been kind of sticking with the triangle a little bit lower curie than what we saw in the past,

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but the Delta variant.

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And generally, they are unvaccinated.

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So kind of go and

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mention other visits in the ED, so we're so seeing all the patients coming through the emergency room.

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But many of them are being able to be managed, you know, outpatient since I'm worth either oxygen or we've been doing a little bit of my final treatments that seems to be very successful for the revocations.

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We have also had quite a few, I can think of three in the last week,

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that I would refer to as like an incidental COVID positive patient.

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And just to explain that a little bit.

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So we had two patients, just last week, they had to pin the cytos.

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You know, they came in with stomach pain and classic signs of the pin the cytos.

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but we do regime testing before we had met or before we do surgeries and we had two patients last week with no true obvious COVID symptoms that were positive.

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So I'm just kind of an interesting little anecdote there.

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For the share of our presentation, I just want to let you know that we're feeling very similar pains in the recruitment world.

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The biggest challenge we have running now,

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COVID-related is stopping, and two years in, almost,

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and staff are tired, and the overtime shifts are harder to work,

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and many are taking vacations, and time off,

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and finding staff is very, very challenging.

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So I feel you're paying, and I think that's really,

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That's a part of it, we're still often testing through our client here in San and Davis, and I apologize to

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I'm down a little bit because of all the home test kits,

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but I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Okay, Mr. Archer. So, for the convention vaccine, a very interesting, we realize that we have a vaccine

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the end that has stopped every day of the Wednesday.

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And now that you're learning to 630 in the evening,

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they do have a static rotation,

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which is each day of the week.

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They do have a single patient in order to provide consistency.

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They let's see, we also have a pharmacy for the lowest energy.

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That provides vaccine as well.

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These two shots are available for every 1-1-1-1.

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And we keep slots available with the bill for the younger children in July 11 and we're going to keep that time just to make sure that the environment is child friendly.

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The visitors that you can receive, your eligible after six months from Atlanta after five months for five or five years and two months for the children in Johnson.

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So, you can see on the screen you do have a list of where a brand will be, it does put all the areas throughout our community, and it's going to be found on the Calvary's County website.

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So, while we're left with you at this image, multiple layers of protection against COVID-19 really do make a huge impact.

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But first, later, avoid more gatherings.

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The second improved indoor ventilation.

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The third layer of your nervous, if you just wash your hands, wear a mask.

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Get vaccinated and get out of the air booster.

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You'll find that you'll have a far greater at results in the end.

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So with that, any questions or whatever.

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Dr. Ramirez, are they, I guess, the CDC recommending a second booster for people who's just been

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news chatter on that. Thank you.

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There's no official announcement at this time for a second booster.

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Thank you, this is a question for administrative staff, I sent this in the email yesterday.

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In our policies for our employees, we use the term a fully vaccinated and it includes the booster shot.

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What is the correct definition of fully vaccinated versus up to date?

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How does that impact our policy and our employees?

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in me, our CPPP, we had to follow the recommendations, the requirements and changes for

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college, and then while we were in the process of doing that, then we had the change

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of also having to adopt pieces from the city pH.

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And so we added in the definition of fully vaccinated to include a booster, if eligible, because

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That is how, how OSHA, I'm sorry, the California Department of Public Health put in their policy regarding quarantine.

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And so we put that way, which in there.

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When employees, when they're comes an instance where we need to verify their vaccination size,

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we do talk through with our employees.

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We do have employees that are unable to receive the booster, and they have a medical exemption for that.

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And so, we have considered, you know, if eligible for the Vista, you know, they're not eligible

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with the medical conditions, those type of things, amount of how we have been administering

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the policy.

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So, our definitions are the same as CDPH, fully vaccinated, includes a booster, is that what

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you're saying?

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If that was your fault.

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And so, we use the language that CDPH used for their, to define quarantine and isolation,

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and where somebody has three vaccinated,

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which includes a booster,

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if that was your bowl, they do not.

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Their quarantine period is very different

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from everybody else.

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And so we know that language.

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Are there any other board comment before I put it right to bubble?

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Well, a little bit.

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Bubble, comment?

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Good morning.

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It's kind of nice feedback of the audience

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and not just on the Zoom calls on picky ranking.

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And I know I've called in several times

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when they do these presentations on the COVID and the vaccinations and it seems like we're

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still back in two years ago that we haven't progressed in anything that we understand.

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And there are new studies out, there are more studies that talk about for one, just the vaccination itself now has proven that it doesn't stop you from variants of what they call COVID.

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So, people that are getting Omakron, I know several that have had it that were vaccinated.

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I mean, that's just a known fact that vaccination has not protected people from Omakron.

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Thank God Omakron isn't as deadly as the Delta was.

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So, to tell people they have to get vaccinated and incentivize them to get vaccinated is ridiculous.

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us, and so then the other part that I've asked about, and I get the answer, while the vaccines

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are safe and efficient, well, that's just nonsense.

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So anyway, I wanted to share with you an article, and you can look up more on it, on

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yourself, but your leaders of our community, and if you don't understand what's going on,

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and we think we're going to vaccinate our children, that is the most horrible thing I've ever

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and we need to educate our parents on what this vaccination is and what it is and so that when they make that choice with their child, they know what they're getting into.

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And because this is this article is directed towards children and vaccinations, it's still about the vaccine itself and some of the dangers of this vaccine that we are starting to see now.

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vaccine, what has been out maybe a year, if that, there has been damaged to people because

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of this vaccine and now that it's not even effective against what they call the Omicron,

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and we keep pushing it, it just items don't even know what to say, but this is absolutely outrageous

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and we need to get back to normal

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to go around and keep wearing these masks. I mean it's horrible,

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I can't even see your faces and know what you're looking like, because that's, and then in our schools to continue putting these masks on children, it's child abuse and it always has been in my mind.

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So anyway, I just hope that you as leaders will start looking at this a little more seriously and start being an advocate for the children being an advocate for the citizens

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And stop this nonsense that comes out of our public organizations that are not even medical doctors in a lot of cases.

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So anyway, I wanted to share this article.

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I'm going to give you one, two, three, four, five, six copies.

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Unfortunately, when I made the last copies that wasn't as clear at the top.

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So you might have to look it up on money.

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But how do you give things to people?

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Thanks.

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So you can understand what this vaccine is about,

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because the person who wrote this article,

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he was one of the inventors of the MRNA technologies in the 80s,

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and so he knows what this vaccine is and what it is.

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And it is not a proven vaccine.

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It's an emergency use.

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So we have not had testing for years on this.

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That would be one of the reasons not to give it to children because it isn't proven. And anyway, I just hope you educate yourselves and I hope that our medical teams here that come and give these announcements every week would start reading more in depth and not just follow along with what the government's saying.

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And again, just to say, we see all around the world, not just in Calvary County but all around the world, the people are sick of it.

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They're tired of being told after wearing masks,

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they're tired of being told they have to get vaccinated

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and they're tired of being controlled by their governments.

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So let's get on board with freedom.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Would that go any other public comment?

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There isn't no online public comment on that.

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Thank you.

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To provide you, strawberry.

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To the vaccine point.

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First, it was stopped the spread.

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Now, you know, you know, you won't get a sick and you'll stay out of the hospitals.

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Now we have, sorry, booster shots of the Pfizer, BioNTech, and Moderna vaccines lose substantial

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effectiveness after about four months, but still provides significant protection in keeping

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people out of the hospital during the Omicron search. According to a study published Friday

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by the Center of Disease Control and Prevention. So now we're looking at possibly a booster

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every four months. How do we keep up to date? How does that affect us? You know, falling

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the science. It seems to be fluid.

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That's all.

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Got it? I'm not sure. I'll give a question or you're on a carry out with this more of it

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that is. I've just put things in my perspective. How do you know what happens with how

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lose yourself?

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Did you get the way with that book? Is it my usual?

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I don't know, not really. I wake up on my brain.

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I'll be on a side.

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So, the point is, come over yourself then.

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How many times does yourself come get updated?

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Even if you use the phone, it's up on.

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And to be in compliance with the county and your computer system,

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and IP, I'm sure there needs to be some update on time virus.

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And there has to be some secure measures

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You need to use your laptop or your cell phone or if you need mail,

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this finance is in real time.

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And we are doing our best to provide up-to-date information with the data that is out there.

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There is a virus, and the virus continues.

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viruses are not new, viruses have been allowed, well, before we have viruses constantly

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tried to outsmart the host. That's what viruses do. There is a time when Apple computers

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which have to be being immune to viruses, but that's not sure anyone. Same with the other

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cell phones. This is what the virus will do, and what we do at scientists, doctors, people

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and health education, people and public health, is we do our best to stay out today with the

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most current literature and the most current recommendations and I would welcome anybody

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on this call, anybody in the world to come up with a solution please because the world is asking

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And they are helped help us to find a solution to make this

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irrelevant anymore.

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But as a right panel, Black Zoom and people are continuing to provide up to date vaccinations.

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To account for the changes in these variants.

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These are people who are working to help other people.

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So, my question is, for everybody there, please go to us, come up with a solution to help other people.

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Not to harm other people.

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As evidence by the statistics, that Ms. Coral and Sheldt,

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fixed times in more likely to just contract the values, almost 1-2 times more likely to die.

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Now, everybody who has a full OK for any type of investment option, I'm sure you put

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your money in places that are off of our last year, but we're here denouncing science without

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a better health care, safer, alternative,

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that concerns me.

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Thank you, Dr. Amiz. I have some questions. I look very surprised. I have some questions. I think maybe there's going to be more to record to Judy.

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You mentioned earlier that the last time we visited all the policy was in August.

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What is needed from us to support staff to reevaluate if needed, the policy and update it to

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reflect the current, and then recommendations coming out?

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I guess one of the concerns is to, you know, ID's boosters that come in out, how are we going

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report some of this information, because we're not checking vaccine codes, we're not checking

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this data, it's an honest system at this point, and we want to kind of make everyone

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on the same page here.

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So just to be clear, what I stated that we had done in August was to require the face covering.

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The policy was updated in January, as required by Cal OSHA, they had come out with new

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new definitions and requirements in their ETS, and then we also had the order by the governor

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and December to also incorporate the changes by the California Department of Public Health.

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So it was updated and sent out to everybody in January with the vaccination status.

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We do have staff such as behavioral health public health and the pressure officers who have to provide us with proof of vaccination.

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So, they have to have a file with exemption with HR.

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And so, we do have those that have to provide actual proof.

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We are working with those departments right now to get their updated status to ensure that they are eligible for their visitor.

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They were that they have received it.

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And those that have exemptions, we test weekly, and then put your local service who are not vaccinated, we test weekly.

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And that's done. They have the option to come to HR and do the testing.

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We have both PCR and the energy and test available for employees.

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other station that they are fully vaccinated, then we do reach out to them to get the

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proof of fully vaccinated.

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So under those circumstances, we do make sure that they provide the appropriate proof.

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Okay, thank you. I guess go back to my original question later. What do we do? We add a board of need to support staff and update in our COVID policy at all at this time.

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So I have worked with Kelly Council on updating this policy. I'm not sure whether it is the board needs updated but we can in any concerns we can definitely address.

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Just based off of your comment that we're most hooked in August, I just want to make sure that we're given the support from the board level to keep up to date that is needed.

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I, the changes are coming down the pipe. So if there's no support that needed from the board to discuss further problems you change, then that's fine.

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I just want to make say that was on the same page with you guys and you know that we need

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to support any changes that I needed.

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So just following up on your question, Madam Chair, this CPP is an administrative document

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put through by the administrative office.

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We don't vote on that, correct?

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I agree with our gentlemen, let's just make sure that we're doing it correctly.

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You answered my question.

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Thank you, Judy.

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Thank you.

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Any other board comment?

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With that, if the Miss Allen, if there's nothing else to the presentation?

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I would like to thank you so much to the public half-devisual

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and the public half-devisual urgency.

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But what the government will do is, what the President is doing is absolutely upstabbing.

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They have managed to do the ups and downs, and probably, like, you would please make sure

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that the two members do so.

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That's how much we are pushing for the entire work.

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And that's all.

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Thank you, everyone for being here today.

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With that, we'll move on to item number three, which is recognition and acknowledgement.

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Quoke.

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I've number three, proclaim the week at February 14th through February 18th, 2022 as Kindness

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Week in Keller, County, and further deemed the county as a random acts of kindness, though.

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I believe Mr. Bogant is in the womb.

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I will read off the proclamation,

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where is National Random Act of Kindness Week will be

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at J. February 14th through 182022, and where I was currently participating in Random

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acts of kindness week in 2010, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, 20, and whereas all

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who lived and all were within college, County, I encourage to practice random acts

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of kindness, a tradition started in English care by Jim Bagan's family. And now, therefore,

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be it resolved that the college, County Board of Supervisors, designated the week, a February

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to be kindness through the county and with that, any comment from Mr. Regant?

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I am Jim Berghanses, you well know, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate the Board

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of Supervisors support for this over the years.

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That random excommunists week is ongoing. They're going to celebrate the kind this day,

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nationally on the 17th, which is Thursday, so the County Office Education, again,

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been supportive of our effort, of our little home spun effort to try to change the world

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one person at a time. So this year we made 5,000 of these kindness wristbands up and our

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pastime out around the school district. And so we came up with actually an honor my lovely wife

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Judy who said, but we should put on the kindness wristlet is wristband is kind of starched with

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me because that's really what it, that's where it starts for sure. And so not me, but me,

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everybody collectively. So, the hope is that planning

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seeds of kindness making kindness the topic first that is an

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decision second and an action third. So, with that, here's a

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hundred wristbands for YouTube, pass around your family and

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community as you go back out into your community and also here for

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the county. So, I do thank you for your support. I hope we've

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back next year and perhaps we'll see some of these on risks around.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:34,300
Any other comment?

446
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,000
I do.

447
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,600
To Mrs. Joseph.

448
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,820
You are a random act of kindness to Calaberos County.

449
00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:48,060
Thank you for starting this.

450
00:43:48,580 --> 00:43:50,960
Though I do miss my coronation.

451
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:54,760
Well, we do live in a really nice place.

452
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,660
And we have a lot of nice people.

453
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,160
You know, the world beats kindness now more than ever. I keep saying that every year last year

454
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,830
We took the year off for COVID wasn't sure how we're gonna do it

455
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:10,760
But I went to see Scott and the CCOE and he said let's do it for sure 100% behind you

456
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,980
So give a lot of credit for the county off-sadjudication

457
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:21,060
Credit to the community of the citizens so be watching for the kindness wristbands and make a difference. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jim

458
00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:22,680
Thank you

459
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,440
And would I, the motion by the board?

460
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:27,560
Do any further public comment?

461
00:44:28,780 --> 00:44:30,700
Is there a motion by the board on line?

462
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:36,620
All those matters, Chair?

463
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,660
Is there a second?

464
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:40,380
All second, Madam Chair.

465
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:45,480
And be it further resolved that the Board of Surveysers

466
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,820
decoded that the County of Carvez

467
00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:51,440
to be deemed a random act of kind of stone,

468
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,280
during the week of February 17th

469
00:44:53,980 --> 00:44:56,140
and continued from that day to the year

470
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,600
2022, all those in favour. Bye!

471
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,020
I did that backwards.

472
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,780
So if anyone in the public that was you to get

473
00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:12,050
a whole hand put the dog for now.

474
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:13,910
And grab more.

475
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,300
You walked out of all the other.

476
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:22,740
Thank

477
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:25,620
you.

478
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,900
Okay.

479
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,300
Now we're moving on to the next item, which is general public comment.

480
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:52,060
This is any item of interest to the public that is with the subject matter, jurisdiction of the board and is not posted on the consent or regular agenda.

481
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,980
It may be addressed in a public comment period.

482
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:02,800
California law prohibits the board from taking any action on the matter, which is not posted on the agenda, unless it's determined to be an emergency by the board.

483
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,060
Is there any general public comment?

484
00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:09,030
Any online?

485
00:46:09,610 --> 00:46:11,090
There is no online public comment.

486
00:46:11,090 --> 00:46:11,770
Okay.

487
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:22,660
We move on to consent agenda. The multiple items on the consent agenda, is it any board member that wishes to pull off the consent agenda item.

488
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:28,180
He and none, is it any public comment on consent agenda item?

489
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:34,420
There is none online. Okay. Would that either motion to approve consent agenda?

490
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:36,020
So, let me ask you.

491
00:46:36,020 --> 00:46:36,960
Okay.

492
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,780
All right.

493
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:39,760
All right.

494
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,340
All right.

495
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:40,380
All

496
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,540
right.

497
00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:52,540
Without was hit a minute for everyone ten minutes.

498
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:53,360
Ten minutes.

499
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:59,160
For that to get ready for the regular agenda information or item for item number eight.

500
00:47:26,290 --> 00:47:38,420
So back we will start off with our resident item number eight and I believe Gina, they want

501
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:39,560
hi

502
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:50,050
everyone we're back in session can we can we have everyone payment tension enough

503
00:47:50,050 --> 00:47:53,930
It's a little bit quieter in the background, thank you. Sorry, Ms. Fondor.

504
00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:55,390
Thank you.

505
00:47:58,610 --> 00:48:04,270
Okay, do you know, I did have the cloak read out what we're back to talk about, though.

506
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:13,510
I don't know. Number eight is informational item from planning. The presentation of the general plan implementation annual work program and request for direction on priorities.

507
00:48:16,420 --> 00:48:21,240
Okay, good morning everyone. Oh, let's see if we can get this thing sped.

508
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:52,280
You're seeing the powerpoint.

509
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,000
Do you know before you get started, I'm sorry.

510
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,440
This way.

511
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,210
You push the display settings button at the top.

512
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,720
Is this much setting at the top?

513
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:01,460
There's a drop down.

514
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:03,180
Okay.

515
00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:05,180
Do you see it at the very end of the middle?

516
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:08,280
It says show task bar.

517
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:09,120
Oh, yes.

518
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:09,500
Yes.

519
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:14,560
you click the drop-down and swap presenter view so that we can see the full PowerPoint.

520
00:49:15,380 --> 00:49:15,600
How's that?

521
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:15,800
You?

522
00:49:18,130 --> 00:49:18,670
Perfect.

523
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:22,960
Okay.

524
00:49:23,980 --> 00:49:27,220
Only I've got this on the wrong slide.

525
00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:30,470
You know.

526
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:45,230
I'm assuming you guys, so you see the PowerPoint up here tonight?

527
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:45,550
No.

528
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Was that enough?

529
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:50,660
No.

530
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,680
You'll find we can see it go ahead.

531
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,380
Okay.

532
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,580
Thank you.

533
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,920
I just need to move this out of my way here.

534
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,340
Okay.

535
00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:08,320
So as I'm just briefly explained today, I am here to provide you with an annual report

536
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:16,260
of the Teleponent Implementation Measure Program as we quote by General Plan Implementation

537
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:18,420
Measure at AU-1A.

538
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:31,970
So as I'm sure you recall, you adopted the, um, the telephone update back in November of 2019.

539
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:44,310
This included a number of implementation measures that were incorporated into the plan, um, specifically we have a total of 213.

540
00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:52,150
And 90 of those, once established, will be on going measures 27 of those relates specifically

541
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:54,750
to the zoning code ordinance update.

542
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:08,820
In 2020, you gave our department direction, setting priorities for the following list

543
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:14,060
of implementation measures, including the development of the vice-primes and co-op loss community

544
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:21,440
plans. We will go through these lists individually through the next series of slides.

545
00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:35,260
As you recall, adoption of the general plan updated many inconsistencies between the existing

546
00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:44,940
zoning of properties in comparison to the newly adopted land use designations. We refer to

547
00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:52,740
This is a cleanup effort more formally known as the countywide zoning map update through

548
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:53,840
this exercise.

549
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:00,600
We determined that we were going to go ahead and re-zone all of the intern zones of unclassed

550
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,460
item highway service at the same time also to be consistent with the new land use

551
00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:08,520
designations that were just adopted.

552
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:18,420
So, as your group, we prepared a revised map showing all of the new zoning that was

553
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:23,280
heard by you and adopted in March of 2021.

554
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:30,940
Shortly thereafter, we realized that we had overlooked a number of parcels, ran those

555
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:42,340
through and you did the final adoption of the ordinance in April 20, April 27, 2021, so the countywide zoning map update is complete.

556
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:49,520
Next, we move on to the comprehensive zoning ordinance update.

557
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,080
As you recall, we've already convinced this process.

558
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,920
We've brought forward to your presentation in January of 2021.

559
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:10,960
Where we are today is we've basically broken down the entire code into three different sections.

560
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:18,380
staff is completed our preliminary draft of the Zone Districts and Youth Regulations.

561
00:53:18,940 --> 00:53:27,540
I am nearly finished with my revision of the county wide regulations, but we have yet

562
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:32,160
to dive into the administrative procedures that will be the last one.

563
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:42,240
So once we give a preliminary draft completed, we will start to begin public workshops and study sessions.

564
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:56,580
We've determined that it would be for easier for everyone if we kept the separation of these documents and we will be bringing them forward to you and the public separately.

565
00:53:56,580 --> 00:54:06,000
Once we get all our public comments, we will go ahead and package up that complete draft and bring it forward to you for consideration.

566
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:13,400
Initially we were expected to include the short-term vacation rental and special events provisions.

567
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:23,280
Now we're thinking that they need to be pulled out of the comprehensive updates to get additional input from the public as well as the industry

568
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,500
to ensure that we are headed in the right direction and works best for the county.

569
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:36,060
I think this is going to take a little more detail than we would like to kind of spend

570
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:41,900
time on with the rest of the updates, so we kind of disappointed those out, but we will

571
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:49,080
be looking for direction from you and it'll be up to you to decide exactly what you want

572
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:58,360
take. Last year Peter had reported to you that he was expected that the one that was expected

573
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:05,540
to be completed by Spine of this year, but as you know, due to staffing situation, the

574
00:55:05,540 --> 00:55:13,220
progress on the zoning ordinance has been rather slow, but as soon as we acquaint a new director,

575
00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:18,220
we anticipate significantly picking up that pace and continuing on.

576
00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:28,290
So the values for those community plans, values for those policies have already been adopted.

577
00:55:28,770 --> 00:55:32,290
Those were rolled into the general plan back in September of 2020.

578
00:55:33,490 --> 00:55:39,850
We have yet to commence the process of developing the copper lockers plan.

579
00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:44,310
We find that there's great value in holding community meetings,

580
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:46,970
did a COVID that's been rather difficult.

581
00:55:47,610 --> 00:55:53,090
I'm hoping that those regulations will soon ease up a bit and allow us an opportunity

582
00:55:54,710 --> 00:56:00,110
to invite the public in this to participate in this exercise.

583
00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:04,910
Once again, once the planning director is appointed,

584
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:09,150
I am certain that we will commence the process

585
00:56:09,150 --> 00:56:11,250
of the COPROPALS community plan.

586
00:56:11,250 --> 00:56:19,430
I know that there's a lot of individuals out in that community that are anxious for us to get moving on that and I can assure you we are as well.

587
00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:24,930
Greenhouse Gas Base Line, a Reduction Plan.

588
00:56:25,410 --> 00:56:27,930
We have already been started.

589
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:30,050
We've been actively working on that.

590
00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:35,350
As you may recall, that is a program that is funded through C-Cog.

591
00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:40,890
We have been working with the consultants along with the city of Angels.

592
00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:45,490
We have broken this process down into two phases.

593
00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:50,190
We took the baseline inventory forward to the planning commission.

594
00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:55,890
They do have some concerns prior after that.

595
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:58,310
The reduction plan will be phase two.

596
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:05,150
So once we get through, once we get this through to you and get some further direction,

597
00:57:05,150 --> 00:57:13,330
Then we will hopefully commence the process of the reduction plan and continue moving on.

598
00:57:13,450 --> 00:57:17,850
I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on this because we are preparing a study session

599
00:57:17,850 --> 00:57:27,410
to bring forward to you in March that will include the consulting team as well as Amber Collins with the card.

600
00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:36,980
So the real and benefit-based and fee update in addition to the traffic impact study guidelines.

601
00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:41,500
The traffic study guidelines were adopted in 2020.

602
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:48,120
I've consulted with public works in regard to the benefit-based and RIM fee updates.

603
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:55,760
They've informed me that they are working on a request for proposal for consultants that is currently being prepared.

604
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:01,560
and that they do expect this to be a multiple multi-year program.

605
00:58:04,650 --> 00:58:11,710
Farmland mapping and the resource production conversion mitigation program.

606
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:19,750
So the O.C. has the map, farmland mapping, all online.

607
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:25,650
However, it doesn't include some outdated Williams and App to Data from our county.

608
00:58:25,650 --> 00:58:36,650
We were unable to get the most updated data before they put that map online, but they do update the map every two years.

609
00:58:36,850 --> 00:58:46,710
And so we do have an opportunity this year to collect the data that we need to get to them, so that they can upload that's most current,

610
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:56,970
we're in tonight that which will then enable us to move on to the next step, which will be the beginning of the development of the mitigation program.

611
00:59:01,490 --> 00:59:07,690
The mitigation program, this project has yet to be initiated.

612
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:18,310
I approach the Oak Route Hardwood Advisory Committee during their January meeting about assisting us with the drafting of this mitigation plan.

613
00:59:18,310 --> 00:59:26,550
We will be furthering this discussion with them at the next scheduled meeting on March 31st.

614
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:30,510
So, have it really drafted anything yet?

615
00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:38,450
It's still just in a discussion phase, but we have reached out to them to see if it's something perhaps

616
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:47,750
maybe that they can assist us with if not, then we may be looking at hiring a consultant to help us with the plan.

617
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:56,480
With that, it's short, it's sweet, that concludes my presentation.

618
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,980
If you have any questions at all, I'm sure...

619
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,500
That this is an appropriate time.

620
01:00:03,940 --> 01:00:06,460
Are there any boy in person who have any good power?

621
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:16,880
What about updating the other community plans? That was the discussion that we had.

622
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:31,120
Well, it's not on the list of priorities that I've retrieved from last year's presentation to the board, but certainly if there is a public interest in that,

623
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,240
And then, you know, we can, I'm certain that we can commence those as well.

624
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,560
And what about a dark sky ordinance?

625
01:00:40,980 --> 01:00:45,340
That's going to be up to you, and whether or not you want that to be a priority.

626
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Right now, it should be something that will be ruled into the overall zoning code of date.

627
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,540
It would be?

628
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:56,940
We can, yes.

629
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,820
I'd like it.

630
01:01:02,620 --> 01:01:13,500
Of course, I'd like it for people like it now, so do I ask my colleagues now for their thoughts?

631
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:18,790
Don't speak up.

632
01:01:18,990 --> 01:01:20,690
That's all right.

633
01:01:21,450 --> 01:01:22,810
This is a foreign question.

634
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:34,150
I would like a dark sky ordinance as part of or some permutation there of as part of the zoning code update.

635
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:34,950
I

636
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:46,370
guess there's no support on this sport for a dark sky.

637
01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:46,710
I know.

638
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:48,090
I know that.

639
01:01:49,830 --> 01:01:51,610
I have one question for dinner.

640
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:58,190
How much work are we adding to your load or do we need to do a separate list?

641
01:01:58,430 --> 01:02:02,410
Because I'm a little bit worried with not having a planning director right now and

642
01:02:02,410 --> 01:02:05,830
to start burdening the department even more.

643
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:10,050
So I just want to make sure that we all underwork understand that.

644
01:02:10,050 --> 01:02:15,190
not that to be dismissive, I just want to make sure we're conscientious of what we start

645
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:17,910
acting for where this conversation leads.

646
01:02:19,950 --> 01:02:21,390
So I am hopeful.

647
01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:24,580
Probably no.

648
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,580
If you recall, I've only got another five weeks as your interim director.

649
01:02:31,460 --> 01:02:36,160
And then I will be falling back to my old position as a planner three.

650
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:41,780
I am hopeful that we will have a planning director in that amount of time.

651
01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:49,480
Basically, what we are doing as staff is just kind of putting together our own version

652
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:57,460
of a plan to move forward, identifying those obviously priorities that we're hearing from

653
01:02:57,460 --> 01:03:04,560
the board, in addition to things like, you know, that sky ordinance, I think it's loud and clear,

654
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:11,280
It's been something that's been dispressed for a long time, not only by you, but the planning

655
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,260
commission as well as the public.

656
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:19,300
So these are things that we would be gathering a list of and presenting to our new director

657
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:28,860
upon that day, and I'm certain that as a group, we will be moving forward with all these things

658
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:30,020
once we get a new director.

659
01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:33,890
Thank you.

660
01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:36,820
Supervisor Jim and Lee.

661
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,040
Gary, go ahead.

662
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Well, I was just going to say.

663
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Thank you.

664
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:42,720
That.

665
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,980
Gina, if you remember years ago, I think there was a draft ordinance that we discussed.

666
01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:52,480
Probably ten or twelve years ago.

667
01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:53,100
I don't know.

668
01:03:53,620 --> 01:03:57,440
That draft ordinance is still around.

669
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:00,080
You can dig it up or find it in a nice station time.

670
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:00,880
Okay.

671
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,340
make that presentation back to us that drastically.

672
01:04:05,820 --> 01:04:09,260
So you would call us a staff actively working on that.

673
01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:10,760
We presented a draft to you.

674
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,960
I can agree to help me here.

675
01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:16,600
2009, 2010, that time.

676
01:04:17,260 --> 01:04:19,100
And it came before us, but we didn't.

677
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:20,920
We didn't do anything with it.

678
01:04:21,060 --> 01:04:22,960
It became with the noise ordinance.

679
01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:24,100
Oh.

680
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:27,820
Much of the other things it came before us at that time.

681
01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:31,180
But it should be, we should have it backwards, it's on it.

682
01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:33,100
OK, that gives you a little more direction.

683
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,080
I'll dig your own, see what I can find.

684
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,440
That might make matters a lot easier.

685
01:04:43,870 --> 01:04:47,690
Gina, thank you very much for the last five months

686
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:49,510
that you've kept this vehicle going.

687
01:04:49,790 --> 01:04:51,550
I think the board, I speak for the board,

688
01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:53,690
and that we really appreciate what you've been doing,

689
01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:54,750
keeping this place together.

690
01:04:55,070 --> 01:04:55,970
It'll be very interesting.

691
01:04:55,970 --> 01:04:58,650
We get a new plan, director, and how we approach this,

692
01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:04,930
prioritize, I mean, I think that, you know, going back a decade at Dark Star, Skyrim is

693
01:05:04,930 --> 01:05:06,190
a good thing to do.

694
01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:10,230
How it fits in the priority, unless that is really going to be the question.

695
01:05:10,990 --> 01:05:15,710
And I hope we can work that through with the staff and then the new tractor when they come

696
01:05:15,710 --> 01:05:16,210
on board.

697
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:21,050
And we have to talk about, okay, well, when we have that, how are we going to enforce it?

698
01:05:22,010 --> 01:05:23,850
And how are we going to make it clear for people?

699
01:05:23,850 --> 01:05:26,190
It's not just blowing up the code enforcement's phones,

700
01:05:27,070 --> 01:05:29,050
and everybody's light out in front of their house.

701
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:30,130
Those are all questions.

702
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:33,670
It's a little, it's complex, but it certainly

703
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:35,290
would support dark sky support.

704
01:05:37,330 --> 01:05:37,370
It's a little, it's a little, it's a little, it's complex, but it certainly would support dark sky support.

705
01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:47,970
If I name that in chair, I completely agree with Mr. Garmini and Ms. Cowway doesn't need to be done.

706
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:51,470
We have to watch what the enforcement is.

707
01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:54,930
How far we go, whether it's high density and everything else.

708
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:59,870
If there's some work done, maybe we could use as a basis by also rewannery, main cognizant

709
01:05:59,870 --> 01:06:04,830
of the workload for the planning department until we get a new planning director in there.

710
01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:11,230
At that time, I feel we should definitely sit down with the new planning director and go over

711
01:06:11,230 --> 01:06:19,370
with them what our priority list is, so that we can all be on the same page because every director

712
01:06:19,370 --> 01:06:23,230
Well, it's differently. I do appreciate the work that's happening now,

713
01:06:25,530 --> 01:06:28,450
you know, that that's beside the point. So, you know,

714
01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:36,610
I'm open to the dark skies, ordinance, especially if there's some work done and maybe we just need to make a few minor changes.

715
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:45,970
I'm open to it. You know, I'd just not the top of the priority list when I look at things, but I'm definitely open to it.

716
01:06:49,070 --> 01:06:51,330
Super bad is your color away?

717
01:06:51,330 --> 01:06:52,410
Oh, no.

718
01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:57,070
Is that colorful you, Gina?

719
01:06:58,590 --> 01:06:59,570
Yes, I'm searching.

720
01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:01,510
I'm searching you right now.

721
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:03,410
We'll see if we come up with something.

722
01:07:04,650 --> 01:07:04,770
Okay.

723
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:08,350
There's no further comment from the board.

724
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:10,110
I'm going to turn it over to the public comment.

725
01:07:11,030 --> 01:07:13,770
Is there any public comment either in the room

726
01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:15,250
or online?

727
01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:20,790
Looks like we might have an online.

728
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:44,160
First of all, before I get started, the drugs fight ordinance you're looking for was on the Planning Commission agenda on November 19, 2009. That's 11909.

729
01:07:46,010 --> 01:07:50,610
So, I'm Tom and Fesino and here on behalf of the Calvers Planning Coalition.

730
01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:57,910
Thank you for the opportunity to comment by the implementation priorities for the 2019 Gerald Plan update.

731
01:07:58,550 --> 01:08:01,210
Today we pose a number of questions we hope to get answered.

732
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:13,310
First regarding staffing, we agree with the statement on page 3 of the staff report that staff and limits have significantly affected department over the past year.

733
01:08:13,310 --> 01:08:25,710
We would like the hiring of the planning director and in addition to that, the filling of the vacant planter street position and the filling of the GIS and agriculture department positions to be a priority.

734
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:28,790
We'd like to know what you the board think about that.

735
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:42,710
Second, on the zoning code update, the staff report notes that the code update has been broken into three sections and a preliminary draft of two of those sections are nearly complete.

736
01:08:43,570 --> 01:08:50,010
We let the CPC believe it may be easier for the public and the development community and perhaps

737
01:08:50,010 --> 01:08:55,250
you the board members to review and comment on the ordinances if they were released in

738
01:08:55,250 --> 01:09:00,330
these smaller parts rather than all at once, what do you guys think?

739
01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:12,690
Also, at the 2021 priority setting meeting, the planning director indicated that it would be

740
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:16,530
If you are creating the open space zone,

741
01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:21,300
we have the CPC support that recommendation.

742
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:28,880
We believe that it is important to have a map that identifies priority lands for long-term

743
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,500
conservation.

744
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:31,620
What do you guys think?

745
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:39,430
Third, the copper office community plan.

746
01:09:40,690 --> 01:09:45,410
The CPC would like the county to start this community planning process in copperapolis,

747
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:46,990
What do you think?

748
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:55,480
If community plan processes are not going to begin on the Highway 4 corridor, please consider

749
01:09:55,480 --> 01:10:01,220
putting on the Board of Supervisors agenda quarterly workshops on planning issues of concern

750
01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:06,860
and options for addressing those concerns in those communities along the Highway 4 corridor

751
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:08,660
that don't have community plans.

752
01:10:08,660 --> 01:10:15,020
Arnold, Murphy's Douglas flat, A.R. Hathaway Pines, and Coppire Opolis.

753
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,660
What do you guys think?

754
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,400
First, the GHD Reduction Plan.

755
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:27,720
We agree with page 2 of the staff report indicating that the GHD Reduction Plan will not proceed

756
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,580
without clear board direction on the draft GHD inventory.

757
01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:38,580
The CPC would like the board to provide that direction in the next 60 days.

758
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,360
Your time is currently at,

759
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,880
thank you.

760
01:10:48,610 --> 01:10:51,170
Coke is there any other public comment on that?

761
01:10:51,550 --> 01:10:52,410
There is not.

762
01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:59,220
Anyone else in the audience before we bring it back to the board?

763
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:00,340
Okay.

764
01:11:00,340 --> 01:11:01,840
We'll bring it back to the board.

765
01:11:02,260 --> 01:11:08,480
Any further comments on the information or item by board members?

766
01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:12,180
Okay.

767
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:20,320
Gina, thank you. Appreciate it. We're forward to having a good discussion later on.

768
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:24,540
We're going to get a new planning to update, which is hoping knock-on work will be soon

769
01:11:24,540 --> 01:11:30,380
about it in later. Yeah. Well, we'll be happy to come back and have another discussion

770
01:11:32,380 --> 01:11:38,300
and get our new director out of speed. Okay. Thank you for the update. Thank you.

771
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:48,620
next we will move on to agenda item number nine. Actually if we could take a break

772
01:11:48,620 --> 01:11:54,940
to allow back to get set up I apologize. So do we 10 minute break?

773
01:12:06,230 --> 01:12:07,430
Okay. Are we ready?

774
01:12:08,590 --> 01:12:08,650
Okay.

775
01:12:12,130 --> 01:12:16,350
Before we get started I just want to let everyone know that the

776
01:12:16,350 --> 01:12:22,930
presentation being given to us will cover both nine and 10 but then we will go

777
01:12:22,930 --> 01:12:26,510
mark out an address 9 and 10 separately.

778
01:12:28,450 --> 01:12:29,750
Is that clear of that?

779
01:12:31,390 --> 01:12:32,330
So, we'll move on.

780
01:12:32,710 --> 01:12:36,250
Clerk, can you please read both items

781
01:12:36,250 --> 01:12:38,990
that the presentation will be about?

782
01:12:40,030 --> 01:12:41,770
Item number nine is an action item

783
01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:43,370
from the Division of Cannabis Control

784
01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:46,690
introduced in way full reading of un codified ordinance.

785
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:49,190
Reducing the gross receipts tax rate

786
01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:59,790
For cannabis activities, specify the Section 3.56.050C2 on a temporary basis as authorized by Section 3.56.070.

787
01:13:00,590 --> 01:13:03,990
Authorized summary publication requires affirmative four fifth vote.

788
01:13:04,450 --> 01:13:10,090
Item number 10 is an action item division of cannabis control and, due to the way full reading of an uncodified ordinance,

789
01:13:10,090 --> 01:13:27,090
We're reducing the cannabis cultivation tax rates, specified in section 3.56.050B-13 on a temporary basis as authorized by Section 3.56.070, authorized summary publication requires affirmative or fifth vote.

790
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:30,820
Thank you.

791
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,980
And good morning, Madam Chair.

792
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,780
Members of the Board of Supervisors, Greg Wayland, your director of cannabis control.

793
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:42,440
The item today, as was just stated, recommends the introduction, waiver of reading and

794
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:47,700
authorization of summary publication for an un codified ordinance, that would reduce the

795
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:54,280
canopy taxes, our local taxes, on cannabis activities, including cultivation and retail for

796
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,440
the two items that are before you today.

797
01:13:57,020 --> 01:14:22,380
Just as a little bit of background, it's always useful to put a reminder out there that the difference between taxes and fees is significant for our department, our department is a fee funded department, and all of our activities in the permitting process are all funded through fees paid by cultivators, taxes on the other hand, are paid by cultivators as well, and are paid as general revenue funding for the county.

798
01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:37,360
The issue that we're presented with today is whether or not the board should make a response to what we're seeing as prevailing conditions in the market today of a steep decline in wholesale cannabis prices.

799
01:14:38,180 --> 01:14:44,280
This is a relatively recent phenomenon in the last six months that to the point that it's at today, at least.

800
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:50,420
and it's the division of cannabis control to believe and recommendation that it does

801
01:14:50,420 --> 01:14:55,600
more and some action by the Board of Supervisors and will be happy to present on that.

802
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,880
It's also an issue that is incredibly complex to parse through and irrelevant.

803
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,700
Global Ministry, a complex industry in the state, both from a regulatory and taxation standpoint.

804
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:16,140
I'll do my best to walk through the local tax implications and speak to some of those complex issues.

805
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:22,940
But at the end of the day, the most concrete evidence I have for you today, is the actual impact on our local industry.

806
01:15:22,940 --> 01:15:27,740
that taxation and regulation, particularly from the state has imposed.

807
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:35,780
Today, we have 14 cultivators that are a rears in one quarter of taxes.

808
01:15:36,460 --> 01:15:39,040
We have two cultivators who are in a rears,

809
01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:42,580
or 13 that are in a rears in two quarters of taxes,

810
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,820
and four that are in a rears in three quarters of taxes.

811
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,900
So this is a significant fact because

812
01:15:50,860 --> 01:15:57,840
The Division of Cannabis Control has the authority to revoke permits for non-pay taxes.

813
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:06,140
And the cultivators, most of whom are all fairly recently permitted, they stand a lot to lose,

814
01:16:06,180 --> 01:16:09,280
and this is something that they would drive very, very hard to avoid.

815
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:14,900
So it's a significant tell-tale of the straits that they are in today.

816
01:16:15,740 --> 01:16:25,020
So what I'd like to do is dive into a PowerPoint that will address some of these issues in more detail.

817
01:16:52,910 --> 01:16:58,110
So, as stated, this is an item that proposes the reduction of taxes.

818
01:16:58,290 --> 01:16:59,810
There are two different taxes that issue.

819
01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:04,030
You have cultivation tax, which is a square footage of canopy tax.

820
01:17:04,430 --> 01:17:10,310
And that's in Section 356050B133 of the county code.

821
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:17,250
And then you have the gross receipts tax, which for our all-intentioned purposes today pertains to retailers.

822
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:18,890
We currently have four retailers.

823
01:17:19,690 --> 01:17:22,650
And that's a gross receipts tax and subsections see.

824
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:33,270
So one of the issues that we're seeing is a complex setting where we're seeing growth in our local industry.

825
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:40,290
But at the same time, fairly significant hurdles for the industry as they grow and continue to adapt to the business.

826
01:17:40,290 --> 01:17:41,410
climate in California.

827
01:17:43,870 --> 01:17:49,270
And so one of the key concepts that I want to emphasize is that

828
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:56,090
structural loss of businesses in the county is a significant thing compared to what the

829
01:17:56,090 --> 01:18:00,630
board might see just to propose an idea that it takes much longer for a business to get

830
01:18:00,630 --> 01:18:09,290
up and running than it does to forgive or reduce taxes for a short period of time with the

831
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:11,730
businesses recover or whether the storm.

832
01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:15,510
If the board recalls on July 10, 2020,

833
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:19,530
measure G came before the board for the board to consider

834
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:22,410
adopting a resolution that would come on election

835
01:18:23,150 --> 01:18:25,590
to adopt measure G by the voters.

836
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:30,170
In that ordinance that the board put to the voters

837
01:18:30,170 --> 01:18:35,470
was a provision that allowed the taxes to be lower

838
01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:38,150
in the board's discretion and I'll get to the exact language

839
01:18:38,150 --> 01:18:38,750
of that.

840
01:18:38,750 --> 01:18:52,750
That provision was actually discussed and deliberated by the board, and ultimately it was changed so that a quartet's code requirement was added so that if the taxes are in fact lowered it must be done by a quartet's code.

841
01:18:53,590 --> 01:19:02,090
The taxes can be restored, so long as it's within the maximum amount of taxation that measure G allows.

842
01:19:03,450 --> 01:19:07,810
So, I'll get to that exact language, but it's significant because it begs the question of

843
01:19:07,810 --> 01:19:09,970
what is the correct tax rate.

844
01:19:11,070 --> 01:19:18,590
It was set initially at $23 and $4 per square foot for outdoor in a mixed light and indoor

845
01:19:18,590 --> 01:19:21,190
respectively, but that was a starting place.

846
01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:26,730
And the voters of this county expressly granted the board of supervisors discretion to make

847
01:19:26,730 --> 01:19:30,750
changes to that if they find that it's appropriate to do so.

848
01:19:30,750 --> 01:19:37,010
And that's the question that is before the board today is what factors render that appropriate.

849
01:19:37,730 --> 01:19:42,850
And I think that market conditions and preserving local businesses want such, are too

850
01:19:42,850 --> 01:19:45,150
such factors that the board should consider.

851
01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:51,610
It doesn't necessarily mean that any particular action is required or called for it,

852
01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:57,310
but it does show that the board has discretion to take up this issue and make a decision today.

853
01:19:58,770 --> 01:20:06,930
And it also, it also puts out there the issue that those initial tax rates were designed to be changed.

854
01:20:07,630 --> 01:20:10,650
And it expressly gives the board the authority to do that.

855
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:23,310
So, again, what we're proposing as a response for the board to consider today is whether tax rates should, in fact,

856
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:30,310
the temporarily reduced to help address a sharp decline in prevailing cannabis wholesale

857
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:35,450
prices, as well as logistical issues that the industry is facing as it continues to grow.

858
01:20:35,950 --> 01:20:42,730
And again, adopts to a regulated cannabis industry in California without the relief, the

859
01:20:42,730 --> 01:20:49,230
division of cannabis control, which I'll call DCC for now on, and this is an educated

860
01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:56,630
Yes, at what we might see in terms of attrition, but is somewhere between 20 and 25% is what I would think

861
01:20:56,630 --> 01:21:03,910
That we may see in terms of loss and as I mentioned at the outset, we have 14 businesses that are to link with 1.1 or 13

862
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:15,410
2.4 and 3.4 and 3.4 and chapter 3.5, 6.1, 20.D gives some guidelines on what that might look like in terms of education

863
01:21:15,410 --> 01:21:27,170
but it's one of the issues that I felt was appropriate to bring to the board to discuss this today before developing a fair and uniform way of handling that with the industry.

864
01:21:29,610 --> 01:21:41,530
Again, the idea that it's easier to sort of lend a hand to the industry rather than see structural loss of businesses, one of the key concepts that I want to put out there today.

865
01:21:41,530 --> 01:21:46,090
In fact, 20 to 25 percent is realistic, which is what I think.

866
01:21:48,770 --> 01:21:54,850
So getting back to the provision of measure G, that was adopted by the voters by approximately

867
01:21:54,850 --> 01:21:57,990
two-thirds on November 3rd of 2020.

868
01:21:58,910 --> 01:22:08,030
Subsection 070 authorizes the adjustments of rates and the provision that I referred to as

869
01:22:08,030 --> 01:22:14,270
line in this, the underlining has had it. The Board of Supervisors may buy a four-fifths

870
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:20,690
code and pose the tax authorized by this chapter at a lower rate and may establish exemptions,

871
01:22:20,970 --> 01:22:26,090
incentives, and other reductions as otherwise allowed by state law. The section goes on

872
01:22:26,090 --> 01:22:31,670
to state that they can be re-restored. In fact, the ordinance that we have proposed today

873
01:22:31,670 --> 01:22:36,310
would self-terminate. So unless the Board took this issue up and assuming the Board took

874
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:38,370
action today to introduce this item.

875
01:22:39,170 --> 01:22:45,890
It is a self-terminating ordinance, but the board is free at any time to go in and adjust and

876
01:22:45,890 --> 01:22:47,730
adapt as you see progress.

877
01:22:48,630 --> 01:22:54,050
And as I stated, one of the benchmarks of success should the board choose to move forward

878
01:22:54,050 --> 01:22:55,390
with this item.

879
01:22:55,910 --> 01:23:00,490
Would be how many businesses we see start to recover and catch the breadth a little.

880
01:23:00,550 --> 01:23:05,650
As we go through 2022, and that's something that the DCC would be happening to continue

881
01:23:05,650 --> 01:23:09,170
comes to the board and provide you information on as we go along.

882
01:23:09,290 --> 01:23:12,510
Again, if this item is introduced and ultimately adopted,

883
01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:20,130
so the proposal that we've brought

884
01:23:20,130 --> 01:23:26,850
to you today is a reduction of the essentially what is today a retail tax but a tax that

885
01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:32,910
would also apply to distribution, reducing it from 5% down to 2% so that's a 60% reduction.

886
01:23:33,730 --> 01:23:39,590
And then as far as cultivation goes, it would be a 50% reduction across each of the three tax rates.

887
01:23:40,210 --> 01:23:47,890
So that would be $1.50 and $2 for, respectively, for outdoor mixed light and indoor cultivation.

888
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:53,470
There are significant differences between the two businesses and the implications for tax.

889
01:23:54,910 --> 01:24:02,630
We have, again, four retailers, and that is not as dynamic as our cultivation permits are because we currently have,

890
01:24:02,630 --> 01:24:08,750
believe about 53 permits that are conditionally authorized. And so the number of permits

891
01:24:08,750 --> 01:24:14,130
just to show one of the dynamics and all of this on what the measure G revenue might be

892
01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:20,310
if this were adopted, we can see growth at any time. We can see the number of permits increase,

893
01:24:20,650 --> 01:24:27,330
we can see E-crees 2, but 53 is a significant number because at this around the same time last

894
01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:34,170
here we had around, I believe between 37 and 43 conditionally authorized permits and in

895
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:43,790
hell or year 2021 our permits grew by total of 54 percent in one calendar year and the total

896
01:24:43,790 --> 01:24:49,390
square footage by 43 percent. So that's very significant. It shows you just one of the factors

897
01:24:49,390 --> 01:24:55,790
here that essentially can change the dynamics of this significantly in a pretty short period

898
01:24:55,790 --> 01:25:06,490
time. But 54% of calendar year 2021. So our proposal, which we've set out there as a reduction

899
01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:13,210
of 50% on the cultivation tax rates and a reduction from 5% to 2% on the other cannabis

900
01:25:13,210 --> 01:25:17,230
activities that we permit is what the proposal is in item 90.

901
01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:21,620
Just to sort of give the

902
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:26,480
forward some context, there's really no set pattern that we're seeing around the state.

903
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:30,520
The reaction is very different, as are each of the jurisdictions.

904
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,940
Monterey County does not authorize.

905
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,400
It's my belief that Monterey County does not authorize all the activities that we do.

906
01:25:38,820 --> 01:25:44,160
You have humble county, which last Monday actually voted to reduce their cannabis exercise

907
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:44,540
tax.

908
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:51,580
I believe by 85% by the significant number, Nevada County San Francisco County actually

909
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:59,420
suspended their tax rate, but their taxation on cannabis activities is a significantly less

910
01:25:59,420 --> 01:26:05,660
percentage, probably, of their total revenue that they used to provide services to the

911
01:26:05,660 --> 01:26:06,720
city and county of San Francisco.

912
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:13,840
So, in looking at this, what I can't tell you is that there is no set way that jurisdictions

913
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,160
are addressing this.

914
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:20,880
In fact, the rate of taxation in the basis of taxation varies from jurisdiction to

915
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:36,820
So the question is, what's right for tellers, tellin', and so that's the question that we wanted to bring to the board if we've discussed today, and it can look like whatever the board seems appropriate if anything at all.

916
01:26:40,510 --> 01:26:48,230
So, this will provide some more detailed figures on the square footage and these quarters

917
01:26:48,230 --> 01:26:50,250
refer to your calendar year 2021.

918
01:26:51,850 --> 01:27:00,610
As you can see at the start of calendar year 2021, we had about 1,305,940 square feet

919
01:27:00,610 --> 01:27:07,530
of outdoor canopy, indoor was just 1750, which is more than doubled in that year.

920
01:27:08,930 --> 01:27:20,450
All told the rates of increase for outgirls 42% mixed life was 53% and forced indoor more of the double.

921
01:27:21,290 --> 01:27:29,050
In fact, we're seeing a trend that as the program matures, we're seeing more and more transition to mixed life and indoor.

922
01:27:30,850 --> 01:27:35,810
And there's a number of reasons for that that I could speculate on, but that's just the trend.

923
01:27:36,690 --> 01:27:57,810
mixed-life increased by almost 10% more in calendar year 2020 more, and so the applicable tax rates being applied, you can see on the bottom portion of this slide, what the total revenue would be in those calendar year quarters, and so of course it increased for outdoor to

924
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:07,870
$926,000, roughly $4,250 for indoor and roughly $262,000 for next life.

925
01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:16,950
So this illustrates the drastic change in the program and why it was so difficult to fix

926
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:22,470
what the impacts of a rate reduction might be on the industry, and more importantly what

927
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:29,590
the change to revenue for the county might be if the rates more lower because 2022 is just

928
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:33,130
started and we don't get know if this year is going to look like in terms of our applications

929
01:28:33,130 --> 01:28:34,010
improvements.

930
01:28:36,810 --> 01:28:40,870
And one thing that I wanted to also mention regarding the industry itself and

931
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:48,310
as the board takes up this issue. Today we have 516 CBCVs. The number of CBCVs has grown substantially

932
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:49,810
since this program started.

933
01:28:50,610 --> 01:28:57,050
516 is a large number of employees working in industry and so there's also a downstream

934
01:28:57,730 --> 01:29:04,370
effect that the board should consider with this item of what are the impacts of those

935
01:29:04,370 --> 01:29:10,310
employees being in our county knowing the restaurants, gas stations, service stations,

936
01:29:10,590 --> 01:29:14,450
virtual stores, hardware stores, any number of places that they go.

937
01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:20,230
Not all of them are currently most like, I mean, I would assume that most of them are active,

938
01:29:20,890 --> 01:29:27,010
but probably not all of them, but all the same, it is a large number of employees that the industry employees in a county.

939
01:29:27,230 --> 01:29:32,050
And that's all of our owners and workers that we track through our background check process,

940
01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:37,330
who go through the trouble of applying with us, passing the background through the Talkey of a J,

941
01:29:37,490 --> 01:29:43,150
and obtaining their CVCV badge. So these are, these are people that show them some investment in our community.

942
01:29:45,980 --> 01:29:59,960
So, permit and canopy totals. Again, this is another snapshot that shows the increase in the number of permits issued, which was approximately 54%.

943
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,440
And calendar year 2021, which is what these figures are. 68 is still current. We have 68 permits today.

944
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:21,490
This is another depiction on the increase in taxes owed by the cultivators.

945
01:30:23,530 --> 01:30:28,510
And so you can see the increase between the quarters of calendar year 2021.

946
01:30:29,550 --> 01:30:33,890
And because this year is just beginning, it's difficult to say what this is going to look like,

947
01:30:33,890 --> 01:30:35,850
with those 53 conditional approvals.

948
01:30:36,770 --> 01:30:40,150
I will say that despite prevailing conditions in the market,

949
01:30:40,430 --> 01:30:43,450
these are all people who have paid their main application fees,

950
01:30:43,630 --> 01:30:45,830
so they are pretty invested at this point in their application

951
01:30:46,570 --> 01:30:49,290
and advanced, because they have gone through the trouble

952
01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:53,450
of the innovation team, accessory rights for title rights

953
01:30:53,450 --> 01:30:57,990
to property and gone a long way towards establishing a business.

954
01:30:58,710 --> 01:31:01,370
Excuse me, but if I may just,

955
01:31:01,370 --> 01:31:04,770
So there's numbers cumulative, are those broken out?

956
01:31:05,050 --> 01:31:05,750
These are by quarter.

957
01:31:05,950 --> 01:31:06,610
Those are by quarter.

958
01:31:06,850 --> 01:31:07,170
Yes, okay.

959
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:08,110
Thank you.

960
01:31:10,420 --> 01:31:17,400
And I have some other figures that are not in the PowerPoint, but these are going to be discussed

961
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:24,500
in terms of percentage, but the actual figures themselves are not actually, I'll present

962
01:31:24,500 --> 01:31:30,060
on this in just a minute when we look at the deficits in payment of energy.

963
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:34,500
And here it is.

964
01:31:34,500 --> 01:32:00,500
So, one of the things that I've seen with our industry is a desire and commitment to following our regulations and one of the things that you'll know before the one, we have 44 permits, all 44 permits pay their energy tax and Q1 and 2021, so that's 100 percent.

965
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:09,440
quarter two, 58 permits, 54.8, that's a total payment percentage of 93.1.

966
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:13,420
In Q3, 67 permits, 49.8.

967
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,860
And so you can start to see the trend that we've seen

968
01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:19,980
since the beginning of quarter three and twenty-twenty-one.

969
01:32:20,260 --> 01:32:23,500
Which, for nearly, I'm especially proud to be a third year

970
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:25,080
that they're receiving revenue.

971
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,380
So we had to state that this would be a time period

972
01:32:28,380 --> 01:32:32,340
where they would be able to more readily meet obligations

973
01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:34,940
for the payment tax that they solved the first.

974
01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:39,600
And so that's another point that is in terms

975
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,260
of the headlines that they've run into in the market.

976
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:48,500
So that payment rate is now 73.13 per cent today.

977
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:51,280
In court court, we've just ended up

978
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:55,540
January very first, and we'll be two weeks past that final few days.

979
01:32:55,540 --> 01:33:01,160
We have a total payment rate of 55.88%.

980
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:05,220
So those total paid figures are for Q123 and four,

981
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:13,560
respectively, 763,000 roughly, 815,000, 824,000,

982
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,760
and a quarter four, 630,000 dollars.

983
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,960
We have noticed that because of the logistics bringing

984
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:29,960
products market that a lot of the time for it, our coalition parties will catch up and it's

985
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:35,820
not a problem to see a couple of weeks go by or maybe a little bit more time and so we

986
01:33:35,820 --> 01:33:43,320
expect for the 55.8% to come up as product is brought to market and sold because a lot of

987
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:51,960
that is accountable for them right now. But that is what it is today. It's 55.8% and that hasn't

988
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:58,240
in June, where he, this year, so it's been a couple of weeks since those payments were

989
01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,420
finally due.

990
01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:09,650
This is a visual that helps depict what we saw and you can see in the blue line

991
01:34:09,650 --> 01:34:18,730
the number of permits and 2021 and in the first quarter payments are even with the number

992
01:34:18,730 --> 01:34:26,730
permitties, and you can see the number of permitties going up, and the orange bar, and

993
01:34:26,730 --> 01:34:30,730
sort of skate of someone among them, and it's gone down,

994
01:34:32,770 --> 01:34:34,770
and on the left hand columns, the

995
01:34:34,770 --> 01:34:38,770
numbers going up to 80 pieces, numbers from it, and the color of the right tip of the

996
01:34:38,770 --> 01:34:44,490
column is the percentage of the paint. So the orange line going across the middle of this

997
01:34:44,490 --> 01:34:54,610
shows the decline in the percentage of payments as tell of year 2021, well, and this

998
01:34:54,610 --> 01:35:00,190
is part of what, and this is part of what may not feel that this was, and I don't

999
01:35:00,190 --> 01:35:05,590
know, that should be brought to the board's attention for consideration was this decline

1000
01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:08,590
in the number of payments of measure G-tox,

1001
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,460
and again, just another depiction of the total

1002
01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:23,120
balance between the number of permittees and the permittees that are paid from the left to

1003
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:29,320
the right and you can see there are even in the progressively, the link link as you get

1004
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:36,900
to court for. And again, we do expect the number of permittees that have not paid to catch up,

1005
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,900
but nonetheless, this is where things stand on them today.

1006
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:44,680
In terms of projections,

1007
01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:47,140
I have

1008
01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:54,420
The caveat that all of these projections are very difficult to assess, there are several factors

1009
01:35:54,420 --> 01:35:58,520
that make it extremely difficult to predict what we think the revenue will be, including

1010
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:03,900
what's going to happen at the state level this year in terms of regulation and tax relief.

1011
01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:11,680
And then also our local, our local cannabis industry, whether we are going to see a global

1012
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:17,500
like we saw last year which certainly it's poised to do but due to market conditions we don't

1013
01:36:17,500 --> 01:36:21,400
know how that's going to look this year nonetheless there are factors here that make

1014
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:26,160
it very very difficult to really project with any accuracy what these will look like so

1015
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:34,800
what we did was we project in a loss of about 45% 35% of actual revenue received in Q4 of

1016
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:42,980
We believe that this estimate is conservative, and it would be equal to $49,788.99.

1017
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:59,100
To $346,444.51 per quarter for a total of $1,639,155.88 to $1,386,978.

1018
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:08,460
for $970 or $4 for the entire county year or $22 with the addition of retail revenue

1019
01:37:09,060 --> 01:37:20,960
and with add a total of $191,269.30 which reflects a reduction of 60% compared to what we received in

1020
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:31,080
I mentioned earlier, retail is a little different than the cultivation and the retail is not.

1021
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,600
This is more static than cultivation.

1022
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,100
We have four, and it's probably going to be four, and not dramatically,

1023
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:39,800
change and come to the 2022.

1024
01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:42,900
It has to do with the market here locally.

1025
01:37:43,260 --> 01:37:47,760
Whereas cultivation can be distributed and moves around the state.

1026
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,000
So it's a little different, and in its voice for growth.

1027
01:37:51,740 --> 01:37:55,060
So we think that the 191,000 is fairly accurate

1028
01:37:55,060 --> 01:37:57,440
for what the revenue might be.

1029
01:37:57,460 --> 01:37:58,940
Under measurement sheet for retailers.

1030
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,780
But another issue that we can't really project is what

1031
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:05,200
would be our revenue for distribution,

1032
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:08,040
because that has just recently gone up the ground.

1033
01:38:08,620 --> 01:38:10,180
And so you can see there's another factor

1034
01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:11,660
that makes it difficult for us to tell.

1035
01:38:11,860 --> 01:38:14,260
So we showed, we believe that it would be best

1036
01:38:14,260 --> 01:38:16,000
to go with the figure that is inserted.

1037
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:24,860
and based on the concrete data that we have, and with the 45% to 35% reduction.

1038
01:38:25,540 --> 01:38:33,000
And what we get is a projected revenue of 1,830,425 dollars of 18 cents.

1039
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:41,140
In between that, 1,528,247 dollars to 34 cents per calendar year 2022.

1040
01:38:41,940 --> 01:38:47,160
So, with the Caliots, those are difficult to assess, this is our best educated, yes, on

1041
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,280
what those might look like.

1042
01:38:50,020 --> 01:38:51,260
To provide your stopping.

1043
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,360
Quick question.

1044
01:38:54,740 --> 01:39:01,720
As to the gross receipts, you know, it's a blanket gross receipts that it's applies to distribution

1045
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,160
and retail, correct?

1046
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:14,980
So with that said, last year we did a slight change to 17.95, allowing distribution, and I think

1047
01:39:14,980 --> 01:39:21,500
we opened it up to a possible five full-blown type of 11 types of distributed distribution

1048
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:22,520
within our county.

1049
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:30,260
How many people have put in application for full-blown type of 11 distribution in inside

1050
01:39:30,260 --> 01:39:30,700
our county?

1051
01:39:32,820 --> 01:39:39,380
It's my recollection that we have limited distributor applications, but I do not believe we have a general disk right yet.

1052
01:39:39,700 --> 01:39:42,620
The general, so there's no general distro underneath that.

1053
01:39:42,700 --> 01:39:43,320
I don't know, actually.

1054
01:39:43,780 --> 01:39:45,920
So it's possible there could be one that I don't think so.

1055
01:39:46,060 --> 01:39:46,340
Okay.

1056
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:47,500
Thank you, Greg.

1057
01:39:47,620 --> 01:39:52,020
That's who I thought it was, but I just want to make sure that I'll bring that up later.

1058
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:54,340
Thank you, Ben.

1059
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:55,260
Thank you, Ben.

1060
01:39:55,500 --> 01:40:05,540
I think we made a really strong case for certainly the impacts on the growing community and understand commodities and how that goes.

1061
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:13,220
Since we're doing both presentations together, tell me, can you unpack the impacts that have been happening to the retail side?

1062
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,340
Because I'm seeing prices fall to the floor for the wholesale side from the growers.

1063
01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:21,560
I'm not seeing prices reduced on the retail market,

1064
01:40:22,140 --> 01:40:24,940
which makes an educated mind, I have.

1065
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,980
I think that the margin is growing larger in there.

1066
01:40:28,420 --> 01:40:29,560
So maybe you could help me understand

1067
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,680
why we're reducing taxes on the retail side.

1068
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,300
Is it filtering down to that?

1069
01:40:36,380 --> 01:40:40,300
It's the, it's, it's, it was our belief that,

1070
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,100
that, relief to any of the local cannabis businesses

1071
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,960
would trick, would trickle down.

1072
01:40:44,960 --> 01:41:05,580
And I think that generally speaking, the retailers are going to feel a little bit of the same market adjustment that cultivators will, to some extent, because the entire industry is growing and adjusting to the regulated environment.

1073
01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:16,260
And so I don't have specifics as to how much exactly a way to make that objective for you,

1074
01:41:16,420 --> 01:41:18,760
but that's the best response that I can give you.

1075
01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:23,440
I'm just thinking if I will use industry on more familiar with,

1076
01:41:23,820 --> 01:41:26,540
but prices at Rayleigh's and Safeway is going up,

1077
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,580
has been rising for beef,

1078
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,780
whereas the people who produce the beef,

1079
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:35,060
prices haven't been raised.

1080
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:38,580
So, someone in the middle is making some money there.

1081
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:44,820
I'm just concerned that I have to understand the trickle down, but...

1082
01:41:44,820 --> 01:41:45,860
That's

1083
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:49,940
right.

1084
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:51,900
Thank you.

1085
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,640
Any more to your presentation?

1086
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,420
After the question that was up from T.C.

1087
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:07,300
I just want to make those wrapped up and you have presented everything you need to say.

1088
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:09,920
Yes.

1089
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:11,380
Yes.

1090
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:12,400
Okay.

1091
01:42:12,420 --> 01:42:17,280
Any other staff comments at this time for the board of the public?

1092
01:42:18,460 --> 01:42:18,700
Okay.

1093
01:42:18,980 --> 01:42:22,580
So what we're going to do is we're going to open it up to public comment.

1094
01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:25,040
We're moving over to public comment.

1095
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:31,060
We're going to do in the room.

1096
01:42:31,060 --> 01:42:36,880
and then we will revert to online to make it easier for the cloak to make sure everyone

1097
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:42,380
turd, want to all public comment, then we will come back to the board after everything turd.

1098
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:50,380
Please be mindful of your minutes. There is the light on the podium and for those of you online

1099
01:42:50,380 --> 01:42:57,340
on room, there is supposed to be a sound that beeps, I guess. So the cloak will help you with those

1100
01:42:57,340 --> 01:43:06,800
coming in on the jumps. So without we'll open it up to public comment, yes,

1101
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,540
yes, yes, I wanted

1102
01:43:10,540 --> 01:43:18,780
to clarify today's meeting if you will be voting today to do this one or the other or will this

1103
01:43:18,780 --> 01:43:26,100
come back, I see there was a notice in the, they should go home for the first public, first public

1104
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:31,580
So, you both are voting today, but we'll have another opportunity to.

1105
01:43:31,900 --> 01:43:39,100
Today, if I may, my chair, today is the introduction of the ordinance and the waiver of first reading.

1106
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:45,620
And this is, yes, by your comments, I'll come back to the board for adoption of future meeting.

1107
01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:47,500
Okay, thank you for clarifying that.

1108
01:43:51,480 --> 01:43:59,600
So, with public comments and the presentation covered both items, I think that needs to be

1109
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:00,800
clarified too.

1110
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:09,080
We are going to start with comment on item 9, then we will come back and do public comment

1111
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:16,240
on item 10, so that way there is no confusion, so we will start with public comment on item 9.

1112
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:22,380
No comment.

1113
01:44:32,050 --> 01:44:34,390
Yes, I'm going to comment on number 9.

1114
01:44:34,770 --> 01:44:40,910
Bikki-Ranky with Calvary's Residence against Commercial Merijuana, and I know we sent you

1115
01:44:40,910 --> 01:44:44,230
a quick memo that you may or may not have gotten in time.

1116
01:44:46,090 --> 01:44:54,070
But we're concerned about reducing the tax that the voters voted on.

1117
01:44:54,930 --> 01:44:59,970
And I want to remind you that what was the purpose of bringing this industry.

1118
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,000
Secretary de Calvary's County, all of those of us who were here through the five years of discussion,

1119
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:14,100
it was to bring in revenue to our general fund. That was our main purpose as a board that

1120
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:21,840
brought forward this, even though the people truly asked not to have it, even come to this

1121
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:29,700
County. So that's one and I think there was a good question asked by Jack that, why do we

1122
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:37,460
reducing retailers percentage? They're at 5% right now and again I want to remind you what

1123
01:45:37,460 --> 01:45:44,220
it said in the tap when we voted. The voters pamphlet has a little blip that people vote

1124
01:45:44,220 --> 01:45:49,640
from that. You very few people will go and read the whole ordinance and see what was actually

1125
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:54,980
in the ordinance, but you know, that was something we helped try to educate the public,

1126
01:45:55,020 --> 01:45:56,360
but what was in that ordinance?

1127
01:45:56,820 --> 01:46:01,720
Anyway, it's said to improve essential county services, including road maintenance, crime prevention,

1128
01:46:01,980 --> 01:46:03,100
environmental regulation.

1129
01:46:03,660 --> 01:46:07,060
She'll measure establishing maximum cannabis activity tax rates.

1130
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:15,160
Not to exceed $7 per square foot, we're nowhere near that, and 8% of gross receipts.

1131
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,700
We are nowhere near that.

1132
01:46:16,940 --> 01:46:19,360
So that's what the people read when they voted.

1133
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:26,000
they got oh eight dollars square foot and eight percent on retail. We started off with a five

1134
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:36,060
percent tax on retail and we started off with a $2 tax on outdoor $3 tax on mixed light and a

1135
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:45,160
$4 tax on indoor, which seems fair enough to me as a citizen that those were fair taxes.

1136
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:50,400
The people who wanted to come here and open their businesses and do what those taxes were,

1137
01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:54,880
they also saw it on what the people were voting on.

1138
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,800
So, you know, keep that in mind, we're talking about reducing taxes on people.

1139
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:05,520
And we're only looking at for 64 people that have a permit in our county.

1140
01:47:07,540 --> 01:47:14,100
Hopefully, you will really think this through because it was three people on this board that put this whole thing through in the first place.

1141
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:23,060
So it wasn't even a majority of our board that approved all this marijuana cultivation, marijuana dispensaries.

1142
01:47:25,260 --> 01:47:33,720
So those are the main points for you to think that through before you reduce the retail tax on our retail businesses.

1143
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:41,220
And like they said, it doesn't look like there's a big reduction in people buying and paying the price.

1144
01:47:41,980 --> 01:47:43,920
Oh, thank you.

1145
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:51,010
Jennifer District, too.

1146
01:47:51,010 --> 01:47:52,190
I'm going to be real quick today.

1147
01:47:52,570 --> 01:47:56,070
It seems like you're creating a protected class and that's on American.

1148
01:47:56,870 --> 01:48:01,710
And I think that each one of you should be talking to people in your own districts, not just the growers,

1149
01:48:02,290 --> 01:48:08,730
because 64 people isn't a big expanse of the constituents that you guys have.

1150
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:15,870
So if I haven't seen any town halls, any information about this, you're not getting any feedback from any of your people.

1151
01:48:15,870 --> 01:48:18,110
besides the ones who want the reduction.

1152
01:48:18,890 --> 01:48:22,070
And I don't think a reduction in taxes is going to fly very high

1153
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:24,610
when you keep putting people like me in the vise.

1154
01:48:25,010 --> 01:48:26,810
I still have to pay everything I owe.

1155
01:48:27,150 --> 01:48:29,250
And if I don't then my property gets put up

1156
01:48:29,250 --> 01:48:32,010
and some kind of list that says the government is going to take it.

1157
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:39,490
So, you know, I just entired of being on the wrong side of government all the time.

1158
01:48:39,730 --> 01:48:42,270
We're just getting squished and squished and squished.

1159
01:48:42,730 --> 01:48:45,550
And I'm looking at Canada thinking it's about time here too.

1160
01:48:45,550 --> 01:48:48,150
I just, I hope you guys hear me.

1161
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:59,870
They go any more impotion, comment before we have one more walkin'

1162
01:49:07,310 --> 01:49:07,310
up.

1163
01:49:07,610 --> 01:49:09,650
Aurora, where'd the V district five?

1164
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:17,090
You know, reducing the taxes on the retailers for the marijuana group.

1165
01:49:17,690 --> 01:49:24,530
If you do this, are you going to lower it on everybody else that have been curtailed under the COVID rules?

1166
01:49:24,530 --> 01:49:26,770
and their business is closed,

1167
01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:45,240
the general fund was to receive this money and under the urgency ordinance there was still 3.5 million dollars that wasn't collected by the county from previous growers and maybe even current growers.

1168
01:49:46,860 --> 01:49:53,160
I submitted a question number 11 on that very amount of money.

1169
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,900
No answers have ever been forthcoming.

1170
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,900
So now they can't pay their taxes.

1171
01:50:01,480 --> 01:50:06,560
Did anybody think about the law that says they can have six plants

1172
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,800
and if you've got a husband and a wife, that's twelve plants.

1173
01:50:10,700 --> 01:50:18,160
Did anybody consider the illegal grows that was going to affect their market as well?

1174
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:30,720
Or the outside influence of the cartels coming in and bringing in more contraband over the border into this country.

1175
01:50:32,980 --> 01:50:34,540
So they want to tax reduction.

1176
01:50:35,980 --> 01:50:45,260
Well, if those money doesn't go in the general fund, then if the tax payers of the county such as myself, are we going to subsidize these people?

1177
01:50:45,260 --> 01:50:50,380
because they're not paying their taxes, but I'm paying my taxes.

1178
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:57,320
And if I don't pay my taxes, you take my property and you sell it at the gazebo out in

1179
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:57,980
the courtyard,

1180
01:51:00,860 --> 01:51:02,360
I'm on a limited income.

1181
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,920
My taxes went up $600 last year.

1182
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:14,600
I brought my papers to the tax department and asked for clarification when I was told,

1183
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:21,460
is they brought my property out of depression due to the sales values of the homes around

1184
01:51:21,460 --> 01:51:29,520
thing. That's apple and oranges. My house isn't worth $500,000. Thank you.

1185
01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:48,330
At least my summary, District 3. Thank you for all your hard work and thank you for

1186
01:51:48,330 --> 01:51:54,670
lying to speak. I don't really think anybody here wants someone to fail. I understand these guys

1187
01:51:54,670 --> 01:51:57,550
they're working hard, it alarms me a little bit

1188
01:51:57,550 --> 01:51:59,030
that they didn't get up to speak.

1189
01:51:59,330 --> 01:52:00,770
I wonder if they know they'll come.

1190
01:52:03,130 --> 01:52:06,210
Signal Insight, are we ignoring signal Insight?

1191
01:52:06,630 --> 01:52:09,570
I kind of think we are because all the signs were there.

1192
01:52:10,030 --> 01:52:12,410
Smarter, faster, safer, greater, farther, better.

1193
01:52:12,910 --> 01:52:14,490
Why are we not doing that?

1194
01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:17,930
Incentives, when someone is not doing well,

1195
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:22,130
is okay except that I looked up all the counties

1196
01:52:22,130 --> 01:52:29,810
that did start to lower the taxes, it did not improve the rate of how many people brought

1197
01:52:29,810 --> 01:52:36,170
in taxes or the amounts. So the whole purpose behind this, I really question it.

1198
01:52:37,550 --> 01:52:43,890
So if you reduce the taxes, what we're really saying is, hey, let's defund law enforcement,

1199
01:52:44,370 --> 01:52:49,790
let's defund programs for the seniors, the planning, every department in this county, we're

1200
01:52:49,790 --> 01:52:53,670
be funding it by doing this because that's funded by the general fund.

1201
01:52:54,090 --> 01:52:57,870
So I think we have to look at all the employees and say, yeah, you're going to get less.

1202
01:52:58,250 --> 01:53:01,090
You're going to have to do with less, even though you've been doing with less.

1203
01:53:02,630 --> 01:53:07,530
There's 11 million reasons why we shouldn't do this.

1204
01:53:07,710 --> 01:53:11,890
That was the amount that the growers promised us to remember the sign there on the way into

1205
01:53:11,890 --> 01:53:12,570
town.

1206
01:53:12,830 --> 01:53:14,870
Oh, we're going to give you 11 million dollars.

1207
01:53:15,610 --> 01:53:17,190
It's never been 11 million dollars.

1208
01:53:17,190 --> 01:53:26,590
So I worry about that. Also when you're finding section one letter H, it says we have to do this because we have to preserve the barrier between the illegal grows.

1209
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:30,130
If we let them be more successful, which this is not going to do.

1210
01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:35,470
It's going to preserve the barrier between the legal grows. That's not true.

1211
01:53:35,810 --> 01:53:44,370
As soon as we allowed commercial marijuana here and tried to regulate it, we had an increase in illegal grows.

1212
01:53:44,370 --> 01:53:47,990
And that is, if you check with law enforcement, you will see it.

1213
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:54,550
In the intensity, the severity of the crimes and the amount of legal gross, the amount of them grew.

1214
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:57,390
So just check that with law enforcement. That's the fact.

1215
01:53:57,950 --> 01:54:04,590
So my question is, and just someone wise once told me, if you catch yourself digging yourself a hole,

1216
01:54:05,250 --> 01:54:10,430
it's probably best just to put the shovel down. That's all I have to say.

1217
01:54:10,750 --> 01:54:11,390
Thank you.

1218
01:54:18,460 --> 01:54:28,840
I'm not sure anyone getting up any more inputten of the clerk or switch over to, there is no public comment online.

1219
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:31,160
Okay.

1220
01:54:32,380 --> 01:54:34,220
Do you know that there is no public comment?

1221
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:35,820
We're going to back to the board.

1222
01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:41,060
Supervage is done.

1223
01:54:44,590 --> 01:54:50,220
I've received a lot of correspondence both sides of this.

1224
01:54:51,140 --> 01:54:56,880
something clarified Mr. Garmin the last year I brought up the gross receipts tax when

1225
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:02,700
I applied to distribution. Some more so Mr. Wailing didn't just conjure this up out there.

1226
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:09,360
I asked this to be looked at for the reason of distribution. Where they were succeeding

1227
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:13,600
across the state one of they were places like Klinga, Sacramento,

1228
01:55:16,060 --> 01:55:17,820
El Dorado where they were

1229
01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:19,640
2% they were sustainable.

1230
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:23,480
There's no technical right-offs when it comes to distribution

1231
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:27,060
with the way the tax code works.

1232
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:30,680
So this is the reason I asked Mr. Whalen to bring this forward.

1233
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:35,120
It wasn't in the interest of retail at the time.

1234
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:38,580
And listening to Mr. Whalen,

1235
01:55:40,740 --> 01:55:42,680
there's

1236
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:49,980
zero general distribution applications at this time. If someone would put one in and find

1237
01:55:49,980 --> 01:55:55,440
a place, it would take them over a year to develop that business. So that's not really part

1238
01:55:55,440 --> 01:56:00,740
of the conversation I originally intended it for and I brought this conversation up prior

1239
01:56:00,740 --> 01:56:09,110
to the current situation that's being brought before us. The retail side, although, you know,

1240
01:56:10,150 --> 01:56:14,490
The gross receipts is passed on to the consumer.

1241
01:56:17,010 --> 01:56:23,870
So, at that time, they aren't being hit by the tax as much as they're passing on to the consumer.

1242
01:56:24,930 --> 01:56:34,270
So, my original intent was for distribution, but unfortunately, the gross receipts tax blankets both retail and distribution.

1243
01:56:34,270 --> 01:56:40,470
right now, I don't think even though I ask you to bring this forward in the past just because

1244
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:52,270
I want to look at the economics of it, the two percent will affect the industry as much

1245
01:56:52,850 --> 01:56:56,890
when it comes to sustainability just because of the facts that I just brought forward.

1246
01:56:56,890 --> 01:57:05,350
So, my apologies for asking you to look into that, but it's not really part of the factor

1247
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:08,970
now, as much as the canopy tax is in the discussion.

1248
01:57:10,190 --> 01:57:23,320
So, my first suggestion on this is if the board soath wants, let's leave the gross receipts

1249
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:30,060
tax at 5% for right now and continue on with the debate about the canopy tax.

1250
01:57:30,380 --> 01:57:33,410
And then also the debate about the SunSight set date.

1251
01:57:38,500 --> 01:57:39,340
Thank you, sir.

1252
01:57:39,940 --> 01:57:41,800
Thank you, sir.

1253
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:42,780
I agree.

1254
01:57:43,420 --> 01:57:47,880
I'm about what I, we need to expand businesses in Calvars, Karen.

1255
01:57:47,980 --> 01:57:49,700
And I hear what you're saying about the distributor.

1256
01:57:49,700 --> 01:57:57,620
ship, you know, we got 516 CBCBs on the cultivating side by Merrily.

1257
01:57:58,140 --> 01:58:02,760
Last majority was our, you know, I factor of three, you know, say three jobs are spun out

1258
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:08,700
at every one full-time job that's 1,500 jobs when the cement plant was going, it was roughly

1259
01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:13,640
the same size as it's industry, it was just concentrated, not distributed, so we have to protect

1260
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:13,940
that.

1261
01:58:13,940 --> 01:58:21,440
But you know, you may be on a good point looking at item number 9 or 10 and then 9 or 9.

1262
01:58:23,110 --> 01:58:28,770
I do support if we could create a new industry, the distribution, that's a positive.

1263
01:58:29,530 --> 01:58:36,590
I just don't want to be given a break to a retail who may not need it as much as the people who produce some of the commodities.

1264
01:58:41,930 --> 01:58:43,470
Something wanted to?

1265
01:58:44,630 --> 01:58:58,050
Well I did I didn't think while you were speaking supervisor, stop it, it's something that if you if there is interest from the board we could break back and sort of study what we're seeing in tax rates and distribution in other counties at a later date.

1266
01:59:00,430 --> 01:59:12,470
That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's I think I think right right now it's apples and oranges and it's not going to really have an effect on on the industry like like the can't be taxed so right right now

1267
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:19,270
with no potential applicants and even if they were to put in an apply, I think that the gross

1268
01:59:19,270 --> 01:59:27,530
receipts tax is a no point in my mind and I apologize for having you look at it earlier

1269
01:59:27,530 --> 01:59:35,050
you know that was my original intent but the distribution thing when it comes to a general

1270
01:59:35,050 --> 01:59:39,370
distribution, the five spots that we opened up hasn't become a reality yet,

1271
01:59:42,370 --> 01:59:44,250
so if there

1272
01:59:45,290 --> 01:59:51,070
were applications, we have the ability under this law to come back and figure out how

1273
01:59:51,070 --> 01:59:57,990
we can incentivize a new industry, which I think would be appropriate. We want to have

1274
01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:59,930
new businesses. We want to be appropriate.

1275
02:00:01,260 --> 02:00:31,040
I'd like to move this from three quarters to four quarters, because I don't see a change. I also would like to keep it. I would like to recommend reduction. The other all other businesses, non-canovist businesses, were allowed to apply for COVID relief funds. The cannabis businesses were not allowed to apply for COVID relief funds.

1276
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:44,040
I'm talking just retail now, and I know what's passed on to the consumer, but the consumers

1277
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:51,520
also have to eat cost and if we could at least, if we could lower that would also help

1278
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:59,580
the consumer, and so I think we should accept it for four quarters, and I will be asking

1279
02:00:59,580 --> 02:01:08,810
not also for the cultivators, move it from three to four quarters, and the distribution

1280
02:01:09,730 --> 02:01:16,230
I'm willing to look at that later, it's not part of this, but

1281
02:01:19,110 --> 02:01:21,490
that's where I stand

1282
02:01:21,490 --> 02:01:22,310
on this issue.

1283
02:01:22,570 --> 02:01:29,170
I would want to modify it to go from three to four and accept the recommendation on the

1284
02:01:29,170 --> 02:01:29,510
balance.

1285
02:01:34,500 --> 02:01:36,440
Any other board comment?

1286
02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:38,810
Good.

1287
02:01:39,610 --> 02:01:40,210
That's a supervisor.

1288
02:01:40,450 --> 02:01:42,090
Calibur, I respect that point.

1289
02:01:42,450 --> 02:01:46,990
I just wanted to offer some rationale for the three quarters where why that was added.

1290
02:01:48,430 --> 02:01:50,790
So a lot of the times indoor mixed-line,

1291
02:01:50,790 --> 02:01:55,630
are successful in making products that are more marketable and easier to distribute to retailers

1292
02:01:55,630 --> 02:02:00,150
because of the quality of the properties of the product.

1293
02:02:01,190 --> 02:02:08,990
The outdoor crowd seems to have been hit the worst, and growing season roughly, we thought

1294
02:02:08,990 --> 02:02:13,510
if something that was sort of measured so that the board can come back and have a look

1295
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:13,910
at this.

1296
02:02:14,050 --> 02:02:18,210
At a later date, but it was roughly corresponding with what their growing season was, so

1297
02:02:18,210 --> 02:02:21,530
that they're getting back into the harvest season by the end of the third quarter.

1298
02:02:21,550 --> 02:02:22,830
That's why it was three quarters.

1299
02:02:31,670 --> 02:02:32,230
Any animal?

1300
02:02:35,190 --> 02:02:40,130
I'm receptive of the four quarters, but staying at 5%,

1301
02:02:48,390 --> 02:03:10,470
okay, so as long as we're talking about, we're so pro-business, you know, we use that word, when COVID came, we worked, I was really proud of the work the board did on grant on helping our local retail businesses stay in business

1302
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:23,560
But in this case, we're not doing anything to help this retail business and I think if we're

1303
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:30,220
a business and we're also concerned about the consumer that we should consider the recommendation

1304
02:03:30,220 --> 02:03:33,380
of going from five to two.

1305
02:03:39,290 --> 02:03:41,270
Any other comment from the board?

1306
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:49,950
That comment, before I bring a back poem, this is an actin item, so any other comment from that?

1307
02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:50,750
No, thank you.

1308
02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:57,270
Is an actin item from number nine, so it...

1309
02:03:59,590 --> 02:04:00,850
Of make a motion?

1310
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:04,470
Super-like establish?

1311
02:04:07,010 --> 02:04:25,570
I'm going to go outside the recommendation, but I'm just going to say let's, I'm going to vote or make a motion to keep it at the 5% gross receipts tax for the time being, please bring something back in the future when it's convenient, so we can actually study this.

1312
02:04:26,210 --> 02:04:33,950
I would add in the four quarters, but it's a move point at this time on item number 9.

1313
02:04:34,330 --> 02:04:37,190
The four quarters is a move point?

1314
02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:47,570
On number 9, yes, because with my motion remaining at 5 per cent, there's no sunset date on 5 per cent this cowway.

1315
02:04:50,390 --> 02:04:52,790
So, is that clear enough?

1316
02:04:52,790 --> 02:05:04,650
If I may, I think that, and I could be misunderstanding, but if the motion was to not do anything from the status quo,

1317
02:05:06,870 --> 02:05:08,930
then we don't need a motion for that.

1318
02:05:09,030 --> 02:05:11,550
It would be to just not take action today.

1319
02:05:11,850 --> 02:05:19,690
But the bullet could certainly give stock direction to do as supervisor talk or suggest it and study something additional or bring something back in the future.

1320
02:05:19,690 --> 02:05:22,690
I would appreciate that.

1321
02:05:23,870 --> 02:05:24,730
That's my suggestion.

1322
02:05:26,050 --> 02:05:27,050
Supervisor Gamedy.

1323
02:05:27,890 --> 02:05:30,330
Yeah, I just, you know, I'm not against this.

1324
02:05:30,330 --> 02:05:32,030
I don't have a hard line.

1325
02:05:32,150 --> 02:05:35,030
I just want some data back of why we're doing it.

1326
02:05:35,150 --> 02:05:37,990
And we've made a very strong case on number 10.

1327
02:05:38,290 --> 02:05:40,870
But I just need some data back up number 9.

1328
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:50,370
We can't introduce this modify it from three to four quarters, effective January 1.

1329
02:05:52,850 --> 02:05:55,210
No, you could certainly make that motion.

1330
02:05:57,470 --> 02:05:59,950
We can't wait to just walk away and do nothing.

1331
02:06:01,050 --> 02:06:02,730
Then what does that mean?

1332
02:06:03,990 --> 02:06:09,230
So, again, I may have misunderstood, but I understood supervisor stoppers, I suppose, motion

1333
02:06:09,230 --> 02:06:15,430
to be too weak things of this as they currently stand today, is that correct?

1334
02:06:17,030 --> 02:06:17,510
Yes, no.

1335
02:06:17,670 --> 02:06:18,190
That is correct.

1336
02:06:18,790 --> 02:06:23,510
And so, simply as I call it, I was merely pointing out that if that is the world of the

1337
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:28,650
board, that wouldn't require a motion, that would just be to take no action today.

1338
02:06:28,650 --> 02:06:30,850
It sounds as though you're proposing

1339
02:06:31,790 --> 02:06:33,490
an alternative motion

1340
02:06:33,490 --> 02:06:36,350
that is basically what stuff has recommended today,

1341
02:06:36,390 --> 02:06:37,950
but extending it to what orders

1342
02:06:37,950 --> 02:06:39,570
and you could certainly make that motion

1343
02:06:39,570 --> 02:06:40,710
if you were so inclined.

1344
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:43,810
I am inclined.

1345
02:06:45,550 --> 02:06:47,550
So I wish to make...

1346
02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:47,840
I wish to...

1347
02:06:49,630 --> 02:06:50,210
No.

1348
02:06:50,850 --> 02:06:51,950
Lots of quotes by saying,

1349
02:06:52,430 --> 02:06:54,670
could we don't need to make a motion on that?

1350
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:59,340
So I wish to introduce

1351
02:06:59,340 --> 02:07:05,060
the way of reading of the ordinance and modify it from three to four quarters.

1352
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:08,440
Motion on the table is a second

1353
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:13,380
died in a lack of a second.

1354
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:15,840
Please.

1355
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:22,040
Please bring back a study so you can come back into this further unless there's another motion.

1356
02:07:24,970 --> 02:07:27,510
The board's intent is not. I'm sorry.

1357
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:33,830
No, please bring it back for this study and then please I'll incorporate

1358
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:45,090
this suggested changes as well. Okay, so that is item nine. We're moving on to item number ten.

1359
02:07:45,970 --> 02:07:55,390
So we had the presentation earlier. We are now open item number ten public comment into what's out with the room and then we'll move to the

1360
02:07:55,390 --> 02:08:00,670
Please be mindful of the light and fun of you to be finished.

1361
02:08:00,810 --> 02:08:05,750
I don't have to call you out in mid-sentence and waste your time.

1362
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:07,970
The public comment.

1363
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:12,300
Chair Full and Dorf and Members of the Board.

1364
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,380
Good morning and thank you to the opportunity to be heard.

1365
02:08:14,940 --> 02:08:18,400
My name is Dr. Bonne and I'm an attorney who's practiced as focused on cannabis policy

1366
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:22,720
and licensing over the last six years, including multiple farms here in Calabaris County,

1367
02:08:23,340 --> 02:08:25,820
continuing to operate in good standing under the county's program.

1368
02:08:25,820 --> 02:08:28,100
with several others proposed for permitting.

1369
02:08:29,060 --> 02:08:33,080
First, on behalf of my clients and signatories to the letter submitted yesterday regarding

1370
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:37,880
measure G tax relief, I want to extend a sincere thank you for your thoughtful consideration

1371
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:41,960
to help our cannabis farmers and business owners in their effort to survive this extremely

1372
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:42,880
difficult time.

1373
02:08:43,580 --> 02:08:47,880
As you know over the last year, the cannabis market in California has experienced a severe decline

1374
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:52,540
in wholesale pricing due to several factors, including an under supply of retail outlets

1375
02:08:52,540 --> 02:08:57,600
statewide and in oversupply of product from local jurisdictions along the central coast, allowing

1376
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:03,600
mass scale low quality production. Over the last two years, a vast majority of permitted

1377
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:08,040
forms here in Calabaris County have operated in substantial performance of local and state regulations.

1378
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:12,700
Additionally, through the collection of permit fees during this period, the county has been able

1379
02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:16,800
to validate the intent of its program, through the funding of several county staff and sheriff's

1380
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:21,400
office positions, which is advanced enforcement of commercial regulations, as well as impacts

1381
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:22,600
against illegal operations.

1382
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:28,100
However, under current market conditions, local farmers who have invested into transparency

1383
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:31,820
and compliance under a local and state business licensure have been left really,

1384
02:09:32,300 --> 02:09:36,340
with their livelihoods and, as well as the viability of the county's program on the brink of

1385
02:09:36,340 --> 02:09:41,800
collapse. At this critical point, while the proposed 50% reduction in the Measure G tax rate

1386
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:46,820
is appreciated in principle, we must do more to truly provide our legal operators the ability

1387
02:09:46,820 --> 02:09:51,080
to restabilize their businesses and compete with counterparts in other local jurisdictions across

1388
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:51,760
state.

1389
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:57,200
Notably, Humboldt County recently reduced their local tax rate by 85% for $1 per square

1390
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:58,860
for the canopy to 15 cents.

1391
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,780
Humboldt's local program is the most comparable to the structure of businesses upholding

1392
02:10:02,780 --> 02:10:07,740
our program here in Calabaris County, with a modest volume of businesses, comprised primarily

1393
02:10:07,740 --> 02:10:11,720
of outdoor operations producing a high quality, sun-grown product.

1394
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,540
Other municipalities that have recently provided tax relief include City of San Francisco,

1395
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:19,880
with a one-year tax holiday for cannabis businesses, Sonoma with an extension on payments

1396
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:23,960
with no penalty. City of Merced with the reduction of their initial rates over a year ago,

1397
02:10:24,220 --> 02:10:27,900
as well as several others currently considering reductions, including the counties of Stanislaus

1398
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:33,460
Denoma and Lake. Accordingly, we are before you today with a humble request that the

1399
02:10:33,460 --> 02:10:37,980
Measure G cultivation taxes be reduced proportionally by 85 percent placing the applicable rate

1400
02:10:37,980 --> 02:10:42,740
at 30 cents per square foot of canopy for outdoor. Although we would still be at double the rate of

1401
02:10:42,740 --> 02:10:48,460
our closest regional market competitor, from a jurisdictional standpoint, this would provide the

1402
02:10:48,460 --> 02:10:52,760
allocation of funds to replant and cover operating costs before the next season's harvest.

1403
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:57,400
In your consideration of this request, please keep in mind a successful compliance record

1404
02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:01,660
of local permitted farmers in absence of any significant threat or negative effect of such

1405
02:11:01,660 --> 02:11:03,660
operations on the community at large.

1406
02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:07,520
To the extent that these offers have assisted in the alleviation of the stigma associated

1407
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:11,080
with the legal cannabis industry, and as the seeds of goodwill have been planted at the

1408
02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:18,440
outset of this program, we are asking you now with the utmost respect, please allow us the

1409
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:23,060
at large in the form of jobs, continuing economic stimulus, and re-investment into this community

1410
02:11:23,060 --> 02:11:24,300
can continue to blossom.

1411
02:11:24,940 --> 02:11:27,660
Without I think if you're time and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

1412
02:11:38,130 --> 02:11:38,990
Any other public comment?

1413
02:11:47,500 --> 02:11:50,420
Thank you, Ranking, Calvary, so as it ends against commercial marijuana.

1414
02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:53,000
It's never enough.

1415
02:11:54,300 --> 02:11:55,780
It's never enough.

1416
02:11:56,060 --> 02:11:58,980
We all sat here through this process.

1417
02:11:59,060 --> 02:12:02,100
That's who I am to come here to remind you all.

1418
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:12,200
Not to forget what the discussions were in this county over marijuana being grown in this county and what we were going to get for it.

1419
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:15,380
And we all knew that the market was going to fall.

1420
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:19,420
We all knew that it wasn't going to take away illegal growing.

1421
02:12:20,020 --> 02:12:21,020
We all knew these things.

1422
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:25,240
These things were told to us as we were going through this process.

1423
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:31,660
But it was decided by a very small minority of board members that we needed this here.

1424
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:35,460
And we were going to have all this money in our general fund, okay?

1425
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:39,560
And that's money we're getting from taxing the cultivation.

1426
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:45,760
Originally taxing, the cultivation was going to be on the buds in the product.

1427
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:48,200
And that was complicated. I understood that.

1428
02:12:48,420 --> 02:12:53,760
So you put out a new measure G so that the people could vote to do a canopy tax,

1429
02:12:53,760 --> 02:13:00,040
Which we make it easy on the growers because now they just who knows what they get for acre of growth.

1430
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:03,580
Does anybody know what they make on an acre of growth?

1431
02:13:04,820 --> 02:13:06,020
No, I don't think so.

1432
02:13:06,580 --> 02:13:08,440
And what is this income look like?

1433
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:13,020
We're charging them $2 a square foot for an acre of growth.

1434
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:17,220
That comes out about $87,000 a year in canopy tax.

1435
02:13:17,460 --> 02:13:18,320
That's it.

1436
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:19,540
That's all they have to pay.

1437
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:21,560
They don't have to pay us anything else.

1438
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:29,820
And so, you know, now it's, it's not enough, we have to reduce it down to 15 cents or 25 cents.

1439
02:13:30,500 --> 02:13:36,900
We don't, you know, I know everybody's been complacent lately because marijuana has come here,

1440
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:42,520
but we just have a ban in this county and all the people thought that was permanent, but it wasn't.

1441
02:13:42,860 --> 02:13:50,380
And so, one trust that question again, why did we ask our community, do they really want this marijuana industry here?

1442
02:13:50,380 --> 02:13:55,020
If it does nothing for us in our general fund.

1443
02:13:55,900 --> 02:14:01,620
So, you know, I hope you guys think this through because what you're doing is really outrageous.

1444
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:06,400
This was a whole purpose of bringing this industry here.

1445
02:14:06,860 --> 02:14:08,640
And the product hasn't changed.

1446
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:14,260
It's still marijuana, and it's still a drug, and it's purposes to get you high.

1447
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:18,300
And yes, some people use it for medicine because maybe it knows their pain.

1448
02:14:18,300 --> 02:14:21,060
And that's fine, they can use the marijuana.

1449
02:14:21,860 --> 02:14:23,980
But Calvary's County is not responsible

1450
02:14:23,980 --> 02:14:27,260
for tearing the gills of this industry.

1451
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:29,040
It's happening all over California.

1452
02:14:29,540 --> 02:14:30,520
It was anticipated.

1453
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:34,060
Next year, big business gets involved in the marijuana.

1454
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:37,320
You think that's not going to affect all these growers.

1455
02:14:38,260 --> 02:14:39,620
If you want to do a business,

1456
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:43,340
you have to make your own decisions about your business.

1457
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:45,660
Do you want to get in this business or dump?

1458
02:14:45,660 --> 02:14:52,400
And if you do, you better pay what you're supposed to be paying and besides, I just wanted to bring up that

1459
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:59,980
there's 14 cultivators who are behind, I'm sorry, that means 53 are in compliance, which is kind of a nice thing. Thank you.

1460
02:15:08,690 --> 02:15:18,190
Good morning. My name is Marie Wright. I have a business here in San Andreas and I live out in West Point in District 2.

1461
02:15:19,550 --> 02:15:33,390
A lot of businesses have been struggling in the last couple of years. My business fortunately is not retail, but it still has been struggling because the citizens of this county have been struggling.

1462
02:15:33,390 --> 02:15:43,590
and other businesses have been struggling and therefore it makes it harder for every business to continue when our clientele is generally having a hard time.

1463
02:15:44,430 --> 02:15:54,690
I know that the county also has needs and the county needs tax revenue and other fee revenue in order to survive and provide services.

1464
02:15:54,690 --> 02:16:02,110
However, it's a balancing act, and the cannabis business seems to be in a temporary difficulty.

1465
02:16:02,590 --> 02:16:08,570
Hopefully, the wholesale prices will go up, and everything will work out for them.

1466
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:11,670
These things go up and down, as you all know, that are in business.

1467
02:16:12,330 --> 02:16:20,090
But it's important to keep these businesses going, to provide jobs for people in this county,

1468
02:16:20,090 --> 02:16:24,250
and weighing it against the interest of having tax revenue.

1469
02:16:24,890 --> 02:16:30,990
I think having them going and cutting the taxes for a discrete amount of time temporarily,

1470
02:16:31,790 --> 02:16:35,950
just to help the businesses stay, is better than to lose these businesses

1471
02:16:35,950 --> 02:16:37,850
to other counties in the long term.

1472
02:16:38,830 --> 02:16:44,850
So I'd just like to add my voice to request that you reduce the taxes

1473
02:16:44,850 --> 02:16:46,690
for the cannabis industry temporarily.

1474
02:16:47,210 --> 02:16:47,470
Thank you.

1475
02:16:58,370 --> 02:17:05,930
Hi. Thanks for letting me get up and say something for our farms. I'm Mark Miller with

1476
02:17:05,930 --> 02:17:11,830
the Blue Eagle Ranch. We have two farms in the county and we have room for expansion

1477
02:17:12,510 --> 02:17:18,070
to more than double our size. We've built two buildings in the county and playing a lot of

1478
02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:24,290
people. We have another building that we have planned to build, but that's on hold for now,

1479
02:17:24,290 --> 02:17:30,690
even though we've put it into the, it's going to the county system in order to build it.

1480
02:17:32,030 --> 02:17:34,110
temporarily we need some help.

1481
02:17:35,950 --> 02:17:43,110
Our business is not sustainable unless we have some tax relief at this time.

1482
02:17:43,770 --> 02:17:50,610
We're hopeful we have, we have big plans for the future, we want to grow and with our growth,

1483
02:17:50,610 --> 02:17:56,110
means growth in taxes, we're current on our taxes, we want to stay current on our taxes.

1484
02:17:56,850 --> 02:18:00,210
We want a partner in a positive way with our community.

1485
02:18:01,570 --> 02:18:05,730
So I just appreciate it, it's that you're recognizing that we're having difficulties right

1486
02:18:05,730 --> 02:18:09,470
now and that there is some willingness to help us out.

1487
02:18:09,890 --> 02:18:10,630
Thank you.

1488
02:18:22,980 --> 02:18:32,560
Okay, I'm here to speak in support of the 85% matching the 85% reduction with humble, but

1489
02:18:32,560 --> 02:18:35,000
I'd like to read a couple of things here.

1490
02:18:35,320 --> 02:18:39,280
I am currently aligned with the cultivators

1491
02:18:39,980 --> 02:18:44,180
that we have 173,000 square feet under licenses.

1492
02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:49,640
We pay about $30,000 a month in canopy checks,

1493
02:18:49,880 --> 02:18:51,100
and that's a big number.

1494
02:18:52,100 --> 02:18:55,080
Reduction would be a blessing for us.

1495
02:18:56,360 --> 02:18:58,800
You all know that in the recent harvest season,

1496
02:18:58,980 --> 02:19:00,540
we have experienced an unprecedented drop

1497
02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:05,360
in the market price of one pound of cannabis flour from an average of 1,000 to approximately

1498
02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:05,800
$400.

1499
02:19:07,900 --> 02:19:18,060
So, there is some unintended consequences of not reducing the tax and a vote for yes that

1500
02:19:18,060 --> 02:19:22,880
provides legal cannabis companies a reduction in holiday or other relief from exorbitant

1501
02:19:22,880 --> 02:19:23,320
taxation.

1502
02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:28,840
The vote in favor of and support for a consistent, sustainable and safer marketplace for cannabis

1503
02:19:28,840 --> 02:19:29,320
consumers.

1504
02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:35,600
of what we're against, providing temporary relief for cannabis companies and cannabis

1505
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:36,200
cultivators.

1506
02:19:36,320 --> 02:19:41,520
It's an overwhelming, strong, yes vote in support of the continuation and strength of the

1507
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:44,620
illegal and unregulated traditional or black market for cannabis.

1508
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:51,640
So you're making that decision if you don't help us that could allow the black market

1509
02:19:51,640 --> 02:19:57,660
traditional market to flourish without developing more the legal cannabis market.

1510
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:08,000
The leaders in the state of California, San Francisco down to zero, humble 85% reduction,

1511
02:20:09,140 --> 02:20:13,480
Santa Barbara and I know the other counties, Mr. Wayland, pointed out, are considering items

1512
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:18,680
and attempting to help a growing cannabis marketplace,

1513
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:26,580
which will benefit the county in the long run.

1514
02:20:27,780 --> 02:20:30,540
And I would definitely support a four-quarter reduction.

1515
02:20:32,420 --> 02:20:37,360
So, don't be the supervisor that gives the illegal cannabis operators

1516
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,280
an additional opportunity to prosper

1517
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:42,500
at the detriment of the real market.

1518
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:51,420
If you do only support a 50% reduction, I can assure you that a way to help the cannabis

1519
02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:58,200
cultivators and any of the cannabis companies would be to take every aspect of 17.95 and

1520
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:04,020
I believe there's only three or four of them that are stricter than the state rules and the cost

1521
02:21:04,020 --> 02:21:06,940
of regulation to us would go down precipitously.

1522
02:21:06,940 --> 02:21:17,760
And I don't believe that would be that it could very well be in the revenue neutral item for the county because there are several parts of 17.95 that are so that are stricter than the state rules.

1523
02:21:18,500 --> 02:21:24,080
And that's an issue that might afford my considered direct staff to analyze and research.

1524
02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:26,140
Thank you for your time.

1525
02:21:31,450 --> 02:21:36,850
Mark Boulder, Ramak Farms, pleasure to see you guys, have been here in a while, it's all

1526
02:21:36,850 --> 02:21:43,650
was fun to come down here and talk to Axis, talk politics, I want to address Ms. Renki's

1527
02:21:43,650 --> 02:21:49,690
point. I think she's absolutely correct big business is coming, corporations that want to

1528
02:21:49,690 --> 02:21:54,730
rub out the small farmer are absolutely barking at the door and I want you to look out

1529
02:21:54,730 --> 02:22:01,110
here. Every single one of these farmers was here in 2016. You guys give yourself a pad on

1530
02:22:01,110 --> 02:22:06,130
back. These are fighters. These are people that stuck through. It's a really hard time

1531
02:22:06,130 --> 02:22:13,890
here. Really, really hard times. So what we're talking about here is

1532
02:22:16,070 --> 02:22:17,450
we're not coming

1533
02:22:17,450 --> 02:22:21,810
here with our hat in our hand begging you. We're just showing you the market reality.

1534
02:22:23,270 --> 02:22:27,570
It's tough right now. And I mean, Jack knows it's better than anyone. Farmers are really

1535
02:22:27,570 --> 02:22:32,710
good at complaining. Really, really good at complaining. It's not the weather. It's the

1536
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:35,270
past. It's not the past. It's the prices. Right now,

1537
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:39,820
it's the exercise tax. It's

1538
02:22:39,820 --> 02:22:46,120
what the state's chargeness. It's what you guys are chargeness. We've got an unsustainable

1539
02:22:46,120 --> 02:22:51,300
model and no other form of agriculture has to deal with a production tax before they've

1540
02:22:51,300 --> 02:22:58,520
harvested their crop. Guys, we want to pay our part. We're very, very community-minded. None

1541
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:01,660
these people would be here right now if they wanted to cut and run.

1542
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:08,000
A temporary reprieve on taxes would be a lifeline to this industry.

1543
02:23:10,220 --> 02:23:15,580
As other speakers said before me, I think four quarters is probably more viable because

1544
02:23:15,580 --> 02:23:18,440
our harvest doesn't come into October, November.

1545
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,640
Prices don't really get situated till about December.

1546
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:23,840
Come February right now.

1547
02:23:23,960 --> 02:23:25,400
We realize how screwed we are.

1548
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:30,180
So, you know, three quarters doesn't really get us to the point we need to.

1549
02:23:31,740 --> 02:23:34,840
I send a memo out. I hope everyone had a chance to read it.

1550
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:36,940
I'm another business owner in the county.

1551
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:40,120
I don't have time to give the whole breakdown,

1552
02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:45,400
but my farm is about four times the business or sales of my other business.

1553
02:23:46,340 --> 02:23:49,120
And the county gets about 33 times the amount of profit.

1554
02:23:50,660 --> 02:23:52,220
You've got some wiggle room.

1555
02:23:52,620 --> 02:23:57,480
We've got a little bit of play in what you can charge these farms and still be very viable

1556
02:23:57,480 --> 02:23:58,340
for the county.

1557
02:23:58,900 --> 02:24:04,700
And we hope to be viable for decades to come, but right now, either the Golden Goose keeps

1558
02:24:04,700 --> 02:24:08,720
laying a couple eggs or your cook it and we're done.

1559
02:24:09,340 --> 02:24:10,060
Thank you very much.

1560
02:24:10,140 --> 02:24:10,980
Appreciate your time.

1561
02:24:18,860 --> 02:24:22,200
Hi, Alice Montgomery, and I want to thank Mark.

1562
02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:30,200
He brought up some really good points, and again, as far I can only speak for myself, I don't

1563
02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:35,120
want to see anybody fail. That's not why I'm here. You want people to survive, you want

1564
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:41,460
people to thrive. I need to dispute a couple of things, though, when they said, like it went

1565
02:24:41,460 --> 02:24:49,400
from 1,000 down to $400, the price of cannabis. I think it's lower than that. I think it's

1566
02:24:49,400 --> 02:24:51,320
little bit lower than $400 now.

1567
02:24:51,720 --> 02:24:53,460
It's a huge, huge market drop.

1568
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,860
My fear is that this is not going to be temporary,

1569
02:24:56,160 --> 02:24:58,140
like the urgency ordinance was temporary,

1570
02:24:58,460 --> 02:24:59,560
only it just got worse.

1571
02:25:00,580 --> 02:25:04,660
If the chair says it's about $800 every time they go to try

1572
02:25:04,660 --> 02:25:09,620
eradicated illegal growth, if you mark you will see

1573
02:25:09,620 --> 02:25:12,040
from the time we started the urgency ordinance

1574
02:25:12,040 --> 02:25:16,580
and allowed commercial marijuana, we do have more illegal

1575
02:25:16,580 --> 02:25:20,960
grows, frequency, severity, crime, and environmental damage.

1576
02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:22,380
That's the fact.

1577
02:25:22,780 --> 02:25:25,820
So if they say, oh, we're going to help eradicate the illegal

1578
02:25:25,820 --> 02:25:29,820
grows, we already know that's it won't.

1579
02:25:30,420 --> 02:25:32,360
There's a glut of marijuana in the market.

1580
02:25:32,600 --> 02:25:35,560
There is not anything anybody can do about that.

1581
02:25:35,720 --> 02:25:38,880
I feel bad because the state laws were not

1582
02:25:38,880 --> 02:25:40,440
written for boutique growers.

1583
02:25:41,380 --> 02:25:43,700
So it's almost like we're rearranging deck chairs

1584
02:25:43,700 --> 02:25:44,780
on a sinking boat.

1585
02:25:44,780 --> 02:25:52,720
You cannot do it, it's not, no matter how, if you cut it down to zero, the state laws are not for them.

1586
02:25:53,220 --> 02:25:54,800
We knew that from the very beginning.

1587
02:25:55,440 --> 02:25:58,100
I feel very, very bad about that.

1588
02:25:58,340 --> 02:26:00,900
It's not okay, but it's the way it is.

1589
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:04,760
And that's why I'm not for trying for four quarters or trying to prop people up.

1590
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:07,260
Because then we must do it for everything else in the county.

1591
02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:10,600
And again, we're defunding critical things.

1592
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:16,840
I really thank you for this opportunity and I thank you for your hard work and all your consideration

1593
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:18,460
and you that run this department.

1594
02:26:18,980 --> 02:26:19,600
I thank you.

1595
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:26,620
Any other person?

1596
02:26:35,180 --> 02:26:37,120
I'm Chair and fellow board members.

1597
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:38,900
My name is Terry Strange.

1598
02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:45,820
I have been in the industry quite a while, including back in the CCWB director days.

1599
02:26:47,060 --> 02:26:52,700
I want to thank you for the opportunity to not only talk but to bring this issue up.

1600
02:26:52,700 --> 02:26:59,660
in Director Wayland. I want to thank you for a very informative presentation. As I'll try

1601
02:26:59,660 --> 02:27:03,860
to make this very brief, there have been a few conversations that I'm here to support

1602
02:27:03,860 --> 02:27:09,820
one of which is to look at extending this relief into the fourth quarter, which I think makes

1603
02:27:09,820 --> 02:27:14,260
a lot of sense, especially if you look at the outdoor and a lot of the products that again

1604
02:27:14,260 --> 02:27:21,280
aren't really taking a market until December in January that provides a great opportunity.

1605
02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:31,880
I also want to say that in reiterate that even though this ordinance was written based on a $500

1606
02:27:31,880 --> 02:27:38,220
per pound flower average, I think that number is significantly less than that.

1607
02:27:38,380 --> 02:27:45,340
Especially if you look at outdoor prices that have been in the $250, which is really half of that.

1608
02:27:45,340 --> 02:27:57,840
And at least on the farms that I'm affiliated with where it's more of an outdoor, some mixed light, but mostly outdoor product that is much lower than that 500 dollar number.

1609
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:06,660
So when you sort of significant relief for a outdoor and mixed light is significant.

1610
02:28:07,820 --> 02:28:13,760
I did go through the process in quarter three of the late payment and was kind of surprised

1611
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:18,300
that not only is there a fee for late payment, but there's additional monthly fees that

1612
02:28:18,300 --> 02:28:25,360
add to those fees that add to those fees, so as a result, I make sure and the quarter

1613
02:28:25,360 --> 02:28:30,700
four that I got that paid off, dicking into family funds and other things to make a work

1614
02:28:30,700 --> 02:28:39,320
because I did not want to pay up penalty and, you know, we're still working on that.

1615
02:28:39,700 --> 02:28:47,940
I think that certainly it's a very complicated and diverse industry and we're learning

1616
02:28:48,980 --> 02:28:52,860
pretty much a month by month on how to be a player in here.

1617
02:28:53,340 --> 02:28:57,860
I think that one of the things that we really haven't talked about that is in the horizon

1618
02:28:57,860 --> 02:29:01,880
and at some point in time are the federal taxation process

1619
02:29:01,880 --> 02:29:03,100
that's going to take place.

1620
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:05,400
We don't know what that's going to look like.

1621
02:29:05,780 --> 02:29:08,860
And so I'm encouraged to be here today and listen

1622
02:29:08,860 --> 02:29:11,840
to all the conversation at least understanding

1623
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:16,620
that we may have to seek very creative ways

1624
02:29:16,620 --> 02:29:21,820
of keeping those of us in business here

1625
02:29:21,820 --> 02:29:24,400
because of the significant benefit

1626
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:26,120
that it plays out to the entire county.

1627
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:34,840
So, I appreciate your time, you know, and again, I'm encouraged by what we're looking

1628
02:29:34,840 --> 02:29:41,780
at today and then also some of the very accurate and compelling statements that others

1629
02:29:41,780 --> 02:29:43,560
have made up to this point.

1630
02:29:44,600 --> 02:29:45,180
Thank you.

1631
02:29:52,050 --> 02:29:52,310
Thank you.

1632
02:29:52,310 --> 02:29:54,950
Any other public comment in the room before?

1633
02:29:59,760 --> 02:29:59,940
Hello.

1634
02:30:00,020 --> 02:30:12,520
I'm poor a kite from kite health farms district floor. I want to thank you guys for putting this on the agenda, taking a look at what we're struggling with in the industry.

1635
02:30:13,620 --> 02:30:20,840
It's refreshing that our county is one of the counties taking a look at how to help our farmers. And I appreciate that.

1636
02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:30,160
I want to use Gregory Wayland's number at $500 a pound and just kind of show you numbers

1637
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:33,140
wise what we're looking at as farmers right now.

1638
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:43,680
At $500 a pound, our tax rate on the state side is $160 that's 32% right off the back.

1639
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:53,460
You know, for someone like me, you know, I'm looking at around 22% of my revenue goes to county taxes.

1640
02:30:54,340 --> 02:30:59,160
And that's not including what's going on on the federal level right now and what I have to pay there.

1641
02:30:59,580 --> 02:31:03,680
My tax rate just for 2021 puts me over 70%.

1642
02:31:04,620 --> 02:31:14,160
So, when I run my numbers, I go through my bookkeeper, get my taxes, I'm producing at $236 per

1643
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:14,780
pound.

1644
02:31:15,740 --> 02:31:17,960
There's no money left.

1645
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:26,600
So, when my tax rate is over 70%, as a business owner, I really would appreciate any kind

1646
02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:35,080
considerations when it comes to tax revenue breaks, helping us farmers succeed and thrive.

1647
02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:41,360
So a temporary reprieve gives us a chance to keep employees going.

1648
02:31:42,020 --> 02:31:47,640
This year I'm looking at having to fire all my employees and be an owner-operated business.

1649
02:31:48,420 --> 02:31:49,900
I don't want to have to do that.

1650
02:31:50,340 --> 02:31:55,460
I mean something like a tax reprieve from the county could keep my employees working

1651
02:31:55,460 --> 02:32:02,080
this year. So when we're talking about slim, slim margins with the depressed market that's going

1652
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:07,680
on in the overproduction that's happening in Southern California right now, I really hope

1653
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:12,500
you take these things into consideration and I appreciate your time today and I appreciate

1654
02:32:12,500 --> 02:32:15,440
listening to what we have to say. Thank you.

1655
02:32:25,660 --> 02:32:29,160
Dr. Proponarandle Smith, Magic Show LLC. Yeah,

1656
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:35,040
I just wanted to reiterate a lot of what's been said already and I just want to caution

1657
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:39,080
everybody you're asking, please don't think that you have an industry here that's looking

1658
02:32:39,080 --> 02:32:41,560
to give tourists in the mouth and demanding more and more.

1659
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:46,020
The reality is across this entire state, the industry is imploding.

1660
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:47,300
It's going under.

1661
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:54,720
It's not all due to county tax and regulations, the predominance of that is the excise tax.

1662
02:32:55,260 --> 02:32:59,100
And one of the elephants in the room that may be some store owners would not like to hear

1663
02:32:59,100 --> 02:32:59,640
me say.

1664
02:33:00,160 --> 02:33:05,020
And that is the excise tax every time you hear a reference to that, they say it's

1665
02:33:05,020 --> 02:33:10,880
15% tax on the retail sale that consumer pays for it, that's not what's happening.

1666
02:33:11,560 --> 02:33:16,840
Growers are paying the exercise tax in the form of lower wholesale prices.

1667
02:33:17,800 --> 02:33:21,620
The growers are taking the every tax level that we have in this state.

1668
02:33:24,140 --> 02:33:29,040
If we want to have a viable industry and have some funds to go after the illegal guys,

1669
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:35,680
We got to keep this thing going and I just urge you to consider maybe a little bit steeper

1670
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:41,160
right here, maybe matching humble, maybe that's not reasonable or not going to happen

1671
02:33:41,160 --> 02:33:43,620
right now but that would be a good start.

1672
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:48,800
I would also ask the board at some point to use your authority and your influence to contact

1673
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:53,020
the governor and the legislature to do something about the exercise tax.

1674
02:33:53,780 --> 02:33:58,100
These are, there's a lot of pieces of this puzzle, they all matter including the local one.

1675
02:33:58,100 --> 02:34:05,100
So thank you for your consideration and let's see how things go and best wishes to all thank you.

1676
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:18,200
Thank you.

1677
02:34:19,580 --> 02:34:23,120
So I have a quick comment on the dispensaries.

1678
02:34:24,320 --> 02:34:29,060
Guys we're talking about three to five percent taxes and I'm okay with either three to five percent taxes.

1679
02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:35,260
But I just wanted to give some type of clarification because you said you were a little bit confused of where that money was going.

1680
02:34:35,800 --> 02:34:42,080
So where that money is going is, we have to be competitive with other dispensaries and the black market.

1681
02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:47,860
So now we can't, if we're getting a product for $20, we can't make $20 anymore.

1682
02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:54,420
Now we have to charge $5, $6, maybe, to be able to compete with the black market.

1683
02:34:55,000 --> 02:34:56,700
That's what's going on right now, the dispensary.

1684
02:34:57,960 --> 02:35:02,720
So, I mean, if there was any other type of question to people, I'd be more than happy to

1685
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:06,000
sit down with you guys and have the answer in, you guys have.

1686
02:35:14,750 --> 02:35:15,010
Cool.

1687
02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:16,370
Can you go to the gym, please?

1688
02:35:17,370 --> 02:35:20,470
There is no online public record, I'll tell you a little bit of comments, sorry.

1689
02:35:23,190 --> 02:35:27,070
Go and back to the room, any last type of comment before going back to the board,

1690
02:35:29,480 --> 02:35:29,740
okay?

1691
02:35:30,040 --> 02:35:31,300
I'll go back to the board,

1692
02:35:34,810 --> 02:35:37,930
either any questions for staff, at this time.

1693
02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:50,850
I'm sorry, and I don't want to contradict the court, but I am actually seeing my hands up on the public comment.

1694
02:35:51,170 --> 02:35:52,890
Thank you.

1695
02:35:52,990 --> 02:35:53,230
Is that it?

1696
02:35:55,520 --> 02:35:57,400
Go ahead and make your comment now.

1697
02:36:00,650 --> 02:36:00,910
Thank you.

1698
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:04,730
Thank you.

1699
02:36:04,870 --> 02:36:05,290
Thank you.

1700
02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:05,930
Thank you.

1701
02:36:06,050 --> 02:36:07,590
Thank you.

1702
02:36:07,590 --> 02:36:09,250
Thank you.

1703
02:36:10,430 --> 02:36:10,590
Thank you.

1704
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:11,230
Thank you.

1705
02:36:11,230 --> 02:36:11,910
Thank you.

1706
02:36:11,970 --> 02:36:12,370
Thank you.

1707
02:36:12,370 --> 02:36:19,770
I have said we're not asking for a handout, but a larger discussion will be odd in the future,

1708
02:36:20,330 --> 02:36:23,410
and that is which one of which we move to the gross proceeds.

1709
02:36:23,750 --> 02:36:29,830
As we all know, our flat taxes, progressive and it's competitive.

1710
02:36:31,290 --> 02:36:37,250
And there's no other industry, but it stops at five points along its supply chain, other than cannabis.

1711
02:36:37,550 --> 02:36:41,510
There's no other agricultural commodity, but it stops for the privilege to quiet.

1712
02:36:41,510 --> 02:36:47,210
There's no other agricultural commodity, what is taxed before it is sold.

1713
02:36:48,670 --> 02:36:55,150
There's a reason why ourselves taxed, our general sales tax is a percentage and not a flat tax.

1714
02:36:56,410 --> 02:36:58,330
So, I appreciate that we're having this conversation.

1715
02:36:58,550 --> 02:37:03,230
I think this is the next step in maintaining sustainable industry in this county.

1716
02:37:04,590 --> 02:37:10,090
And the farm like mine that has six employees, like the 18 jobs in the county.

1717
02:37:10,090 --> 02:37:17,230
It's not just my employees that are affected when businesses shut down, it's a volcanic

1718
02:37:17,230 --> 02:37:18,030
that's affected.

1719
02:37:19,030 --> 02:37:26,510
So I appreciate your time and looking at this, and I'm encouraged by the hot stress

1720
02:37:26,510 --> 02:37:31,390
in the industry for a main system of open power, as long as we continue to talk about

1721
02:37:31,390 --> 02:37:31,990
these discussions.

1722
02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:32,490
Thanks.

1723
02:37:39,450 --> 02:37:40,530
We're good with online now.

1724
02:37:40,690 --> 02:37:42,150
There is no word with the online.

1725
02:37:42,650 --> 02:37:43,150
Okay.

1726
02:37:43,150 --> 02:37:47,350
Okay, okay, we'll go back to where we started to provide their name and leave.

1727
02:37:47,510 --> 02:37:48,410
Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

1728
02:37:49,770 --> 02:37:56,230
And you know, it was four years ago, I noted last night that a 2018 that we banned cannabis.

1729
02:37:57,050 --> 02:38:02,130
So to the point that was made earlier, you guys have some serious fortitude, which makes you good farmers.

1730
02:38:02,890 --> 02:38:07,270
Also makes you gamblers, but that's just part of farming, I suppose.

1731
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:11,270
We have 516 CBCB badges.

1732
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:21,450
That is a lot of jobs that actually would make you guys a second largest industry next to the county, next to government in this county.

1733
02:38:22,550 --> 02:38:36,270
So, it's important to recognize what we're trying to preserve here is not just the 516 badges, but if we use the multiplier of three jobs for every one full-time employee, you know, it's 1500 jobs.

1734
02:38:36,270 --> 02:38:45,350
That is the guys who are doing, and girls who are doing an electrical haul and dirt, making sandwiches, filling up gas tanks, all those things going to this.

1735
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:48,910
And we have to try to make sure that we keep these things going.

1736
02:38:49,150 --> 02:38:53,990
It's a one of your crew mentioned to me and I thought it was very wise.

1737
02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:57,650
As a farmer, you want to share your sheep every year.

1738
02:38:57,730 --> 02:39:00,370
Because that's a recurring income for your farm.

1739
02:39:00,790 --> 02:39:03,670
If you can only slaughter that sheep once.

1740
02:39:03,670 --> 02:39:09,510
So, we have to decide as board and as a community whether we want to slaughter the sheep and

1741
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:15,170
have one big meal or we want to have to keep us going for many years ahead.

1742
02:39:15,590 --> 02:39:17,710
So, I'm glad we're taking this up as a board.

1743
02:39:18,890 --> 02:39:20,110
I look forward to discussion.

1744
02:39:20,470 --> 02:39:26,210
I certainly support a Supervisor Colleways wanting to go for four quarters.

1745
02:39:26,690 --> 02:39:28,570
I think that just makes sense.

1746
02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:31,830
We have a lot of issues we need to figure out how we make this work.

1747
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:35,450
It is dynamic industry, we're dealing with the feds, we're dealing with the state.

1748
02:39:36,430 --> 02:39:41,590
I don't know if our reduction in taxes is going to make the difference,

1749
02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:47,570
but it certainly is important, and it certainly shows a commitment to keeping businesses

1750
02:39:47,570 --> 02:39:49,750
and people employed in this county.

1751
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:56,150
So I look forward to debate, and the majority of the board is three.

1752
02:39:56,610 --> 02:39:58,310
Since that seemed to be a question before.

1753
02:39:58,310 --> 02:40:04,590
So we should all be supporting business and tax reduction.

1754
02:40:05,630 --> 02:40:07,210
Thank you.

1755
02:40:07,210 --> 02:40:08,390
Do you provide a stop at?

1756
02:40:10,940 --> 02:40:15,960
Well, I really wish I could do all my taxes.

1757
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:24,880
I hate taxes, but the reality of life, the tune of over $30,000 for my income taxes

1758
02:40:24,880 --> 02:40:26,760
here I have to pay pretty quick.

1759
02:40:29,120 --> 02:40:38,620
But to get to the point, you know, debating it with people some weeks ago, you know, 50% seemed

1760
02:40:38,620 --> 02:40:47,060
palatable, but then then humble stuck up to 85% and, you know, I debate this in my head.

1761
02:40:47,060 --> 02:40:57,920
You know, I go one way or it's apples and oranges, humble has diversified their economy.

1762
02:40:58,540 --> 02:40:59,960
Calvars hasn't so much.

1763
02:41:00,680 --> 02:41:05,680
You know, the lion's share of our taxes coming in when it comes to general fund.

1764
02:41:05,740 --> 02:41:12,520
There's no other single industry that has donated as much, even in just the last two years,

1765
02:41:12,520 --> 02:41:17,560
to the county's general fund as cultivation,

1766
02:41:19,680 --> 02:41:21,920
so humble has a harbor.

1767
02:41:23,640 --> 02:41:29,900
They still have mills running, they're still doing logging far more than we are.

1768
02:41:30,120 --> 02:41:37,800
And I could go down to the point of TOT making us look like a little people, making us look little.

1769
02:41:39,460 --> 02:41:46,800
So, they have something to fall back on, but the other way to look at this when I argue

1770
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:54,680
with myself and my head about it is, you know, goes to Mr. Garmini's point about harvesting

1771
02:41:54,680 --> 02:42:01,540
the sheep, you know, that sheep could produce for a few more years, possibly have more

1772
02:42:01,540 --> 02:42:06,680
sheep for meals, and we can get our wool, or would at least slaughter it now and not having

1773
02:42:06,680 --> 02:42:13,800
that's sustainable in the future. Very, very, very good one, Mr. Garmin, because that's, you know.

1774
02:42:16,060 --> 02:42:21,160
It's a, so there's definitely two sides to it.

1775
02:42:23,820 --> 02:42:26,480
I'm amenable to being forequarters.

1776
02:42:26,780 --> 02:42:32,320
All in all, this market, we're charging before you're making your profit, you know.

1777
02:42:32,320 --> 02:42:38,140
This is this is beyond a gross receipts tax that I just buy past but at the same time

1778
02:42:42,040 --> 02:42:48,260
We don't do that to any other industry. It's it's just not a thing until cannabis

1779
02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:53,540
So until you get those cells

1780
02:42:55,180 --> 02:42:57,000
You that's passed

1781
02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:00,760
December. I'm sure by the time you're processing if you're not

1782
02:43:01,340 --> 02:43:03,140
either indoor or

1783
02:43:03,880 --> 02:43:07,420
Mixed light so I mean by the time it gets processed

1784
02:43:07,660 --> 02:43:13,720
And everything else, you're looking at, hopefully, a January cell, and we're going through four quarters.

1785
02:43:14,960 --> 02:43:24,940
So I'm amenable to extending it for the year, and then revisiting it later to see where we're at.

1786
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:28,120
We're having a hard time landing as the percentage.

1787
02:43:29,560 --> 02:43:31,900
I personally can't go 85%.

1788
02:43:31,900 --> 02:43:35,060
I think we just saved ourselves some,

1789
02:43:35,060 --> 02:43:37,440
with the exercise tax, I'm not doing that.

1790
02:43:38,160 --> 02:43:39,560
So there's room to debate.

1791
02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:43,220
So I'll leave it at that for now,

1792
02:43:43,640 --> 02:43:45,800
and I'll give further input later.

1793
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:51,010
Any other board comment?

1794
02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:52,810
Mm-hmm.

1795
02:43:52,810 --> 02:43:53,370
Good, thank you.

1796
02:43:54,010 --> 02:43:54,450
All right,

1797
02:43:59,510 --> 02:44:02,230
I support 75% reduction.

1798
02:44:02,250 --> 02:44:04,010
I support four quarters.

1799
02:44:05,210 --> 02:44:07,170
Now, how did I come to that?

1800
02:44:07,170 --> 02:44:15,210
First of all, as was mentioned earlier, about property tax under the Revenue and Taxation

1801
02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:22,630
Code, your property taxes, my property taxes, maybe many of you in here will reduce substantially

1802
02:44:23,570 --> 02:44:25,570
when the recession hit.

1803
02:44:26,670 --> 02:44:33,910
Now, under the Revenue and Taxation Code, what's happened to this woman over here, happened

1804
02:44:33,910 --> 02:44:41,230
to me and probably happen to all of you are property taxes go back up to where they should

1805
02:44:41,230 --> 02:44:48,510
have been over-based value. So every property owner in Calvary's County had their property

1806
02:44:48,510 --> 02:44:57,370
who were impacted by the recession had their property taxes reduced. What I'm saying is

1807
02:44:57,370 --> 02:44:59,910
Let's reduce these for this group.

1808
02:45:00,400 --> 02:45:06,840
For the four quarters, and then you can revisit it in January. Do you like the word, Dave?

1809
02:45:18,380 --> 02:45:26,180
cannabis industry is not allowed to apply for COVID relief funds.

1810
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:33,820
I think when it was cognizant, it was cognizant of this board,

1811
02:45:34,280 --> 02:45:39,700
or when we put together Measure G, the supervisor Garamente,

1812
02:45:40,380 --> 02:45:44,360
said the dynamics of the industry, it was a fledging industry.

1813
02:45:44,360 --> 02:45:51,940
we didn't know what was happening, and so we allowed the high-low percentage tax rate.

1814
02:45:52,520 --> 02:45:58,480
So it's not as if we're reducing the tax rate outside of measure G. It's what's allowed.

1815
02:45:59,320 --> 02:46:07,440
Ag products do not pay a tax on their crop. For example, I don't pay a tax on my grapes.

1816
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:11,600
You pay the tax when you buy a bottle of wine.

1817
02:46:13,240 --> 02:46:20,620
So, in cannabis's case, you pay the tax as the kelp as the cannabis grower

1818
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:25,880
and whoever buys it, retail also pays the tax.

1819
02:46:26,500 --> 02:46:30,460
You're also paying, if I understand, the carbon offset tax.

1820
02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:36,680
I don't know about their ag products in this county that pay a carbon offset tax.

1821
02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:41,600
And you also pay an annual fee just to operate.

1822
02:46:42,100 --> 02:46:48,620
You are not considered an ag product by Calaberas, but you are considered an ag product

1823
02:46:48,620 --> 02:46:50,140
by the State of California.

1824
02:46:51,140 --> 02:46:53,140
Market conditions have changed.

1825
02:46:53,560 --> 02:47:00,420
As I said earlier, what this board did for the retail industry, when things were really bad

1826
02:47:01,360 --> 02:47:09,940
I'm proud of what this board did and how rapidly we responded to the needs of our business community.

1827
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:15,720
I think we need to do the same here.

1828
02:47:16,240 --> 02:47:25,520
Under the revenue and taxation code, the county has five years to collect my taxes before they come after my property.

1829
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:28,360
on here,

1830
02:47:30,780 --> 02:47:36,840
the DCC, Mr. Wailon, can pull your permit if you missed two payments.

1831
02:47:38,840 --> 02:47:47,040
So I just think, is this an industry that we as a county are going to commit to supporting

1832
02:47:47,040 --> 02:48:01,860
as we go through these maturity stages of the industry or we just can't compare it to other ad crops that have been here.

1833
02:48:02,140 --> 02:48:07,800
I mean, I compared it to grapes or to almonds, you could do the same thing.

1834
02:48:09,620 --> 02:48:12,660
But those are not fludging new industries.

1835
02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:24,020
So I think if we're going to do something, let's fight the bullet, let's do it and let you review it in January.

1836
02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:36,140
So I'm asking for a 75% reduction and four quarters on this modification to the ordinance.

1837
02:48:38,180 --> 02:48:41,360
And I can give you more reasons that I'll hold off.

1838
02:48:44,470 --> 02:48:45,930
They take over now.

1839
02:48:46,690 --> 02:48:50,390
Yeah, I have a couple of questions for Greg.

1840
02:48:52,850 --> 02:48:56,310
Greg, how many promise are in process right now?

1841
02:48:58,930 --> 02:49:01,570
We have about 53 that are initially approved.

1842
02:49:01,850 --> 02:49:06,450
And I don't have the numbers in front of you right now that are in a blind status.

1843
02:49:08,530 --> 02:49:12,290
So the reflection is it's around 165.

1844
02:49:13,510 --> 02:49:19,610
So, when you say conditionally approved, then they will more likely start growing in this coming growing in season.

1845
02:49:21,350 --> 02:49:22,990
We're nearly, I would say yes.

1846
02:49:23,830 --> 02:49:30,590
This year, the pace has been a little slower than 2021 for them just showing, you know,

1847
02:49:30,770 --> 02:49:33,330
in terms of what they're submitting and getting going.

1848
02:49:33,610 --> 02:49:41,010
So, there are more conditional approvals, but the pace is substantially slower this year so far.

1849
02:49:41,010 --> 02:49:45,410
I can't really tell you that they aren't going to get permitted this year.

1850
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:51,270
And it just passes on a fourth-less vote.

1851
02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:59,930
You mentioned that there are a number of the permitties or growers that are in a rears.

1852
02:50:01,750 --> 02:50:03,490
And like 17 of them are substantial.

1853
02:50:05,570 --> 02:50:11,550
For 13, that are two quarters pass, that's right, that's four, that are three quarters pass,

1854
02:50:11,870 --> 02:50:14,030
and 14, that are one quarters pass.

1855
02:50:15,610 --> 02:50:19,510
So how does this pass by this board today?

1856
02:50:19,650 --> 02:50:24,350
How does it affect those that are interrearers?

1857
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:29,250
Are they going to pay at the current rate to be brought up to date?

1858
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:32,950
Or they're still going to be held at the rears at the time they went into a rear,

1859
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:40,310
with that rate. This will not change their status, because this applies to a January 1st

1860
02:50:40,310 --> 02:50:46,170
through whichever game if any of the more cheeses. So those are rearranges, occurred in

1861
02:50:46,170 --> 02:50:50,950
2020 for as a removal of 2021 vaccinations. So that's not going to happen. That was rearranges.

1862
02:50:52,470 --> 02:50:53,130
A rearzes.

1863
02:50:54,330 --> 02:50:55,010
A rearzes.

1864
02:50:56,910 --> 02:51:01,650
Okay, so it's not going to affect the regardless there in a rearves with that amount of money.

1865
02:51:01,650 --> 02:51:08,790
And if it's some of them, or it's far back, it's three quarters, that's a substantial amount.

1866
02:51:09,170 --> 02:51:10,370
That's a substantial amount.

1867
02:51:12,130 --> 02:51:18,990
And it's brought up and it's true about the penalties that are added on top of that as they go along.

1868
02:51:19,250 --> 02:51:25,510
So the penalties could add up to substantially more than the original taxes that they...

1869
02:51:25,510 --> 02:51:29,450
It would take a long time for that to happen, because the quarters are three months,

1870
02:51:29,450 --> 02:51:38,470
in the penalties 10%, so it would take 30 months, I think, for that to happen, but then I say

1871
02:51:38,470 --> 02:51:43,110
there's not a direct impact because of the timing, but there is an indirect impact because

1872
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:49,970
that they're able to keep from going in additional quarter interirages, then they're not getting

1873
02:51:49,970 --> 02:51:52,730
into three quarters, which is really significant.

1874
02:51:54,210 --> 02:52:01,550
Okay, now I wasn't going to do a lot of comment on this because I don't think it's going to change

1875
02:52:01,550 --> 02:52:10,330
anybody's vote on what's going forward but I was in my own business for 30 years and I went through a

1876
02:52:10,330 --> 02:52:18,750
lodge especially when I crashed when the mark 2008 2009 2000 there was no jobs. We want two

1877
02:52:18,750 --> 02:52:24,690
on basically having nothing and yet I had to pay everything. I still had to pay the carbon

1878
02:52:24,690 --> 02:52:32,970
offset tax because we had from the previous year used paint and all the inspections that we

1879
02:52:32,970 --> 02:52:38,430
had to do and everything that cost to to run that particular industry and that business was

1880
02:52:38,430 --> 02:52:44,090
still there including corporation taxes and everything else so I went to a period with no

1881
02:52:44,090 --> 02:52:51,110
And I think if you look at any industry out there, what it is, whether it's the send us tree, or any other industry.

1882
02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:54,950
The market goes up and down, goes up and down throughout.

1883
02:52:55,390 --> 02:52:57,590
You've got to be able as a business owner.

1884
02:52:57,830 --> 02:52:59,130
You have to be able to survive.

1885
02:52:59,410 --> 02:53:04,250
You have to look forward when things are good and put money away from when times are bad.

1886
02:53:04,590 --> 02:53:06,510
So you can survive if you're going to.

1887
02:53:06,630 --> 02:53:13,110
A lot of times in 2008, 2009, a lot of the skill industry that I was in,

1888
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:17,010
a lot of those businesses went under, they couldn't, they couldn't, they were so heavily

1889
02:53:17,010 --> 02:53:22,810
in debt and they just couldn't survive because they're inversely no jobs and what jobs

1890
02:53:22,810 --> 02:53:32,090
were available to bid on, what so dirt achieved, that the guy's been nothing, just to have

1891
02:53:32,090 --> 02:53:40,030
a job. So, you know, it's not conductive to just this business, although it's a new business

1892
02:53:40,030 --> 02:53:44,830
So I certainly understand that, and I commend the people that have

1893
02:53:44,830 --> 02:53:47,650
withstood all the things that have gone down in this industry,

1894
02:53:47,970 --> 02:53:50,350
and included in this county, as Jack brought up.

1895
02:53:51,770 --> 02:53:54,810
So, but I, again, didn't have any relief.

1896
02:53:55,230 --> 02:53:58,370
I, there was no relief that I could find the stand business.

1897
02:53:58,690 --> 02:54:02,970
We had to just endure it, and make sure when we went along

1898
02:54:02,970 --> 02:54:06,370
in the good times that money was coming in, that we were,

1899
02:54:06,370 --> 02:54:12,110
put in a way, knowing that the market goes, the way it goes.

1900
02:54:12,830 --> 02:54:15,810
And this time next year, very could be very well-possible

1901
02:54:15,810 --> 02:54:19,570
that the industry is back going back and up.

1902
02:54:20,590 --> 02:54:23,250
So that's what I am to say.

1903
02:54:27,240 --> 02:54:28,060
Superbated, Caroi.

1904
02:54:29,480 --> 02:54:33,540
Our cannabis cultivators allowed to have right-offs

1905
02:54:33,540 --> 02:54:37,520
like a steel company is for IRS, for federal purposes.

1906
02:54:38,420 --> 02:54:46,240
I don't know, we asked for that, but I don't think so, but I don't think so.

1907
02:54:46,460 --> 02:54:48,020
We never write up.

1908
02:54:50,500 --> 02:54:57,380
Well, when I had my own business for losses, you can take losses on your taxes.

1909
02:54:58,580 --> 02:55:02,260
So, you know, I understand what you're saying, supervisor.

1910
02:55:02,260 --> 02:55:11,260
I'm just saying this is not an industry that has the tax advantages that you, not that they have advantages.

1911
02:55:11,640 --> 02:55:26,520
I was went through by times two, but not I'm sure like you did, but it's not an industry that has the traditional tax advantages that they can do right off like we can.

1912
02:55:26,520 --> 02:55:31,760
I mean, they can't even go to the normal banking system that we can.

1913
02:55:33,360 --> 02:55:37,400
I still have to pay all the fees and everything else that I have to pay.

1914
02:55:37,540 --> 02:55:38,800
You understand that business.

1915
02:55:39,260 --> 02:55:41,620
Everything has to be paid and current.

1916
02:55:50,280 --> 02:55:52,280
Any other supervisor in the comment?

1917
02:55:55,920 --> 02:55:58,200
I guess I'm the only one that has spoken yet.

1918
02:55:58,200 --> 02:56:00,620
So, I'm

1919
02:56:03,380 --> 02:56:09,460
open for further dialogue, however, I will be honest, it's been a whole one to follow.

1920
02:56:10,700 --> 02:56:15,300
I've spoken about my head around how you can tack something that doesn't exist.

1921
02:56:16,160 --> 02:56:19,760
All in all, most of that tattoo, they're based off of something.

1922
02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:28,740
And at the local level, allowing a taxation that just, I don't know, how do you, on growth

1923
02:56:28,740 --> 02:56:31,600
that didn't even exist till after the fact?

1924
02:56:33,440 --> 02:56:37,780
But that nighter here and all that, that is where the people of this county have supported

1925
02:56:37,780 --> 02:56:44,680
to go through with that, you know, government supposed to make it easier for businesses.

1926
02:56:44,680 --> 02:56:50,940
The state had done no one any favors, not only the cultivators, but also local districts

1927
02:56:50,940 --> 02:56:58,420
and put in a different court for us to control the industry within our own areas.

1928
02:57:00,280 --> 02:57:10,680
I concur with a lot of the points that have elevated highway, he's made, I think that there's

1929
02:57:10,680 --> 02:57:13,300
some leeway of understanding how to support businesses,

1930
02:57:14,360 --> 02:57:17,040
and there's an officer of this industry,

1931
02:57:17,540 --> 02:57:22,000
but what this industry has given to the overall global

1932
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:24,080
picture of this county's economic.

1933
02:57:26,480 --> 02:57:29,480
It's simple as an accuracy value being bar

1934
02:57:29,480 --> 02:57:33,000
at the local grocery store, that's self-tax that's

1935
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:36,660
generating, because we have individuals having done.

1936
02:57:38,940 --> 02:57:48,880
If we meet Khaber, I supervise a game and he said slaughter the sheep, we're not going to see that in the long run.

1937
02:57:50,200 --> 02:58:06,600
And the purpose of it was knowing that this industry had been here for a long long time and it's to make it survived legally in this county and bring it to equal of other businesses for them to survive.

1938
02:58:07,740 --> 02:58:15,960
It sounds like the board has an appetite to discuss, are there numbers other than the 50%.

1939
02:58:15,960 --> 02:58:22,780
At this time, I do agree with the four quarters. I don't seem being in it back.

1940
02:58:23,220 --> 02:58:30,220
At the recommended by staff, I think the four quarters is something that should be considered.

1941
02:58:30,220 --> 02:58:43,100
I support the president, I'm going to leave it up to my favorite board member for further discussion on what to build forward for this TV page stopping.

1942
02:58:43,700 --> 02:58:49,760
Oh, now I'm chair, just because I try my life doesn't mean you're done. So if you have more to say, I'm listening.

1943
02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:51,580
I'm up there.

1944
02:58:57,140 --> 02:58:58,380
I'm morning, Maria.

1945
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:12,560
As I said before, I'm having a hard time with 85%, you know, 50% was palatable to me.

1946
02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:19,500
I think we gave ourselves some more room to work with with what we just did with the

1947
02:59:19,500 --> 02:59:20,740
size tax,

1948
02:59:22,770 --> 02:59:34,690
I'm not able to get to 75%, but I do understand the economics. I do think that Mr.

1949
02:59:34,850 --> 02:59:41,530
Tauke finally does have good points, but at the same time, you know, it was the state that

1950
02:59:41,530 --> 02:59:46,430
didn't help you out then, and they aren't helping us out now, and we didn't. The question

1951
02:59:46,430 --> 02:59:54,050
earlier was asked why don't we petition the governor or the state? We did in December. We sent

1952
02:59:54,050 --> 02:59:59,970
it to them, you know, and we're not the only ones by far and...

1953
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:16,600
On the state, and there's counties across the state making changes hoping that the state sees what we're doing in full suit, and but, you know, here's my wish hand. I won't say the rest.

1954
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:22,180
I

1955
03:00:24,710 --> 03:00:28,730
can get to 60% right now, but I'm open to the debate.

1956
03:00:31,430 --> 03:00:38,210
If someone else says they're okay with 60, I'll be willing to make a motion, but I'm still open to the debate.

1957
03:00:51,870 --> 03:00:52,270
Yeah,

1958
03:01:04,360 --> 03:01:06,360
I'm not going to get in the middle of being more.

1959
03:01:07,720 --> 03:01:11,040
I will let you two armors on and hide, but I've got to pass this.

1960
03:01:11,060 --> 03:01:17,020
I just keep thinking, if we were back in the early 80s and we had a way that we thought maybe it could

1961
03:01:17,020 --> 03:01:23,580
work, maybe if we could have saved the cement plant industry, I don't want to be looking

1962
03:01:23,580 --> 03:01:27,800
back on my shoulder and think we didn't do everything we could to keep businesses going

1963
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:28,380
here.

1964
03:01:29,120 --> 03:01:34,100
So, I will, I will, whichever two numbers you two come up with, some are between, we'll

1965
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:40,580
be 60, 65, but we're right now, I will support you guys.

1966
03:01:57,340 --> 03:02:04,220
So we've got two numbers, we've got one number, one number,

1967
03:02:07,680 --> 03:02:12,240
okay, so we've got one number,

1968
03:02:13,200 --> 03:02:17,180
and you want anything to know about it or you can.

1969
03:02:26,630 --> 03:02:27,810
I'll make a motion,

1970
03:02:31,010 --> 03:02:34,950
well I mean make sure I'm on the right, I don't mind or can.

1971
03:02:34,950 --> 03:02:41,370
To introduce and weigh full rating of an uncodified ordinance, reducing the cannabis

1972
03:02:41,370 --> 03:02:52,310
cultivation rates specified in Section.356.0, phi 0, b1, dash rate on a temporary basis

1973
03:02:52,310 --> 03:03:10,790
as authorized by Section 3.56.070 in the sum of 60% with the amendment to all four quarters

1974
03:03:11,130 --> 03:03:21,050
of this year, which an authorizes summary publication, which requires a firm enough

1975
03:03:25,270 --> 03:03:31,040
I'm going to do a modified motion on the table.

1976
03:03:31,040 --> 03:03:32,540
One motion is already on the table.

1977
03:03:34,580 --> 03:03:37,660
If there's a second and mine fells and then you get a modified.

1978
03:03:39,020 --> 03:03:39,740
Is it a second?

1979
03:03:45,810 --> 03:03:46,470
No, it's a second.

1980
03:03:47,130 --> 03:03:49,650
I'll second it.

1981
03:03:49,710 --> 03:03:52,970
I'm going to do a modified motion.

1982
03:03:55,330 --> 03:03:56,210
I'm sorry.

1983
03:03:56,210 --> 03:04:03,390
We've had a motion and a second on the table and I want to modify the motion, which takes for us to get over the motion.

1984
03:04:04,030 --> 03:04:04,510
Okay.

1985
03:04:06,250 --> 03:04:07,190
I want the same.

1986
03:04:08,350 --> 03:04:09,370
I'm looking at it.

1987
03:04:09,470 --> 03:04:11,750
Miss Edwards with the smile on our face.

1988
03:04:11,830 --> 03:04:12,410
Good day.

1989
03:04:12,830 --> 03:04:15,930
You're all going to make me fall out of the ball because you just said it.

1990
03:04:16,010 --> 03:04:17,650
Give me just one second.

1991
03:04:22,940 --> 03:04:25,300
If you don't mind, I just like to double check one thing.

1992
03:04:25,300 --> 03:04:25,300
That would be pretty,

1993
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:29,080
pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty.

1994
03:04:42,340 --> 03:04:47,840
Similarly, in general, we would have a vote on the motion that is in front of the board,

1995
03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:55,460
and then a substitute motion, an amended substitute motion, called being certain in its place.

1996
03:04:57,560 --> 03:04:58,720
That would be just,

1997
03:05:06,100 --> 03:05:13,080
so the motion may be amended prior to a vote, but only with the consent of the moving and seconding members.

1998
03:05:13,080 --> 03:05:21,080
So, as supervisor Cowboy can propose an amendment, but supervisor stopper and commend you

1999
03:05:21,080 --> 03:05:24,840
with about to increase an item and then

2000
03:05:27,620 --> 03:05:29,460
propose a little bit of Cowboy.

2001
03:05:32,980 --> 03:05:41,340
I wish to follow the same introduction and wave reading of the ordinance as supervisors stopper

2002
03:05:41,340 --> 03:05:46,580
and amending the 60% to 64% and of course the four quarters.

2003
03:06:00,420 --> 03:06:08,060
I think it would be whether, so the most of it is on the table is supervisor stoppers.

2004
03:06:08,900 --> 03:06:11,640
Supervisor Colle has suggested an amendment.

2005
03:06:11,860 --> 03:06:19,160
So it's up to supervisor stoppers and I'm going to indicate whether they are amenable to the amendment.

2006
03:06:22,040 --> 03:06:28,320
I see I see two passers as she explained or one of the people can withdraw their motion or second.

2007
03:06:29,260 --> 03:06:30,160
There's also that.

2008
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:39,600
That said, my motion stands as said, I hear what you have to say and I'll justify the reason on saying this.

2009
03:06:39,820 --> 03:06:42,240
I was a hard-line 50%.

2010
03:06:44,890 --> 03:06:49,170
But I made a little bit of room for me to work with.

2011
03:06:49,590 --> 03:06:51,870
I understand the situation in the growers.

2012
03:06:52,070 --> 03:06:54,310
That's why I'm in favor of bringing this forward

2013
03:06:54,310 --> 03:07:03,890
and doing the 50%, but I'm not withdrawing my 60% motion.

2014
03:07:04,950 --> 03:07:06,730
So it lies with Mr. Garmindi.

2015
03:07:11,150 --> 03:07:14,070
We all know that takes four of us to get this stuff.

2016
03:07:15,110 --> 03:07:19,690
And so you're just the question, I'm feeling a kid in the middle here.

2017
03:07:21,570 --> 03:07:24,010
We need to get before we need to get before votes.

2018
03:07:26,600 --> 03:07:32,780
So I continue, if you're a hard line of 60, then I continue to support that.

2019
03:07:39,230 --> 03:07:45,150
I'm sorry, supervisors stop up back down the four points, but I'll go with 60.

2020
03:07:47,420 --> 03:07:59,380
So we have a motion in a second and then a proposed amendment which was rejected by the party making the motion.

2021
03:07:59,600 --> 03:08:03,520
So the motion in second, as originally proposed, I know in third and a point.

2022
03:08:07,140 --> 03:08:09,200
We'll call for both.

2023
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:10,440
All in favour?

2024
03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:11,340
Aye.

2025
03:08:11,680 --> 03:08:12,020
Aye.

2026
03:08:12,260 --> 03:08:14,020
Are those opposed?

2027
03:08:14,240 --> 03:08:14,520
No.

2028
03:08:15,200 --> 03:08:15,880
Four one.

2029
03:08:23,300 --> 03:08:25,020
The entire motion in the vote.

2030
03:08:31,300 --> 03:08:33,900
did I read it clearly in the suburbs?

2031
03:08:35,900 --> 03:08:41,900
Yes, I believe that if I understand it, the motion is to approve item as a

2032
03:08:41,900 --> 03:08:46,800
genderized, but with the temporary reduction of the

2033
03:08:46,800 --> 03:08:52,100
cultivation tax rate reduction in 60% from the currently and for that

2034
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:57,200
reduction to be for the four quarters of this calendar year.

2035
03:08:57,200 --> 03:09:01,200
Now, which point it expires the reduction expires?

2036
03:09:02,720 --> 03:09:02,820
Yes.

2037
03:09:03,400 --> 03:09:04,720
And you got the vote to miss that vote.

2038
03:09:08,970 --> 03:09:09,990
Thank you.

2039
03:09:12,040 --> 03:09:14,420
We were now move on to the next agenda.

2040
03:09:14,800 --> 03:09:17,440
I see that it's getting time and everyone probably getting hungry.

2041
03:09:17,580 --> 03:09:19,160
I'll just say that one second.

2042
03:09:19,520 --> 03:09:20,600
We'll do this quietly.

2043
03:09:21,320 --> 03:09:21,640
Sorry.

2044
03:09:21,940 --> 03:09:23,000
Killerification again.

2045
03:09:23,540 --> 03:09:26,880
So this comes back March 22nd to be approved.

2046
03:09:27,420 --> 03:09:27,580
Cool.

2047
03:09:27,580 --> 03:09:28,500
This is Jessica.

2048
03:09:28,500 --> 03:09:32,820
Just to move it, yes, and this is just to move it to the next meeting.

2049
03:09:35,980 --> 03:09:42,760
Okay, without when we move on to Supervisory announcement, I will start to my left with Supervisory.

2050
03:09:44,720 --> 03:09:48,080
And I, I'm having a meeting with the ball.

2051
03:09:48,240 --> 03:09:55,400
We'll see the community that I took as part of the redistricting this Saturday.

2052
03:09:59,070 --> 03:10:00,490
And that's all.

2053
03:10:05,160 --> 03:10:10,320
Thank you, and thanks for just hanging with us very first this cleanly.

2054
03:10:12,400 --> 03:10:17,340
There's a meeting at tonight at Railroad Flight Eleanor, former site at the Railroad

2055
03:10:17,340 --> 03:10:23,140
Flight Elementary School for community come together and talk about the community center that we're building

2056
03:10:23,140 --> 03:10:27,160
there as county and things that they want to see happening in there.

2057
03:10:27,820 --> 03:10:31,940
So I see a lot of due to two people and spread the word when you go back up the hill.

2058
03:10:31,940 --> 03:10:38,900
We'd love to have everybody six o'clock and Chef will be there as well as Kenny Rappes. Thank you

2059
03:10:38,900 --> 03:10:44,170
both. Thank you, Madam Chair. We have

2060
03:10:46,010 --> 03:10:51,250
Supervisor fallen door for myself to have a special meeting with Cog tomorrow evening at 5.30 here

2061
03:10:53,790 --> 03:10:55,710
Sure if everybody knows that Amber Cog

2062
03:10:57,170 --> 03:11:04,010
Executive Officer Cog has turned into a resignation and that will be on March 4th

2063
03:11:04,010 --> 03:11:10,910
So, part of the agenda would be reviewing and possibly appointing a new director.

2064
03:11:12,450 --> 03:11:24,010
Also, I have a mountain valley MS meeting to discuss, again, continue to discussions

2065
03:11:24,010 --> 03:11:30,110
of Stan's sauce County pooling out of Mount Valley MSA, and that's that.

2066
03:11:40,190 --> 03:11:46,650
Thank you. I have nothing to report, but however, we do need to move over to the close and

2067
03:11:46,650 --> 03:11:52,730
capture something we did not do this morning, which is report out of the last close session from last week.

2068
03:11:53,570 --> 03:12:02,590
For the close session of February 8th, 2022, I have number 1 for students government code section 54957.6, conference with county definitely

2069
03:12:02,590 --> 03:12:09,890
labor negotiators, duty hotkins, and shade Johnson regarding the following employee organizations, Calvary's and Union Calvary's supervisor's unit.

2070
03:12:10,270 --> 03:12:11,570
No reportable action taken.

2071
03:12:12,250 --> 03:12:20,150
Number 2 for students government code section 546571, public employment, title planning director, there is no reportable action taken.

2072
03:12:20,150 --> 03:12:26,690
Item 2, pursuant to government co-section 54956.91, conference of legal counsel regarding this

2073
03:12:26,690 --> 03:12:31,610
in litigation career at all versus Calibur's county, Calibur's county career court case

2074
03:12:31,610 --> 03:12:38,150
number, 1, 8, CV, 434, 6, 0, there is no recordable action taken, item 4 pursuant

2075
03:12:38,150 --> 03:12:44,890
to government co-section 54956.9, D, 2, conference of legal counsel regarding inticipate

2076
03:12:44,890 --> 03:12:51,550
education one case significant exposure to litigation no reportable action taken and item

2077
03:12:51,550 --> 03:12:56,950
five pursuits government code section five four six five seven v one number one public employees

2078
03:12:56,950 --> 03:13:02,450
former evaluation titles planning director chief building official county librarian environmental management

2079
03:13:02,450 --> 03:13:06,210
administrator public workstractor county council county administrative officer

2080
03:13:06,210 --> 03:13:10,390
helping the services agency director there is no reportable action taken

2081
03:13:12,830 --> 03:13:15,030
Thank you and thank you and with that everyone have a good day.