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[0:07] Good morning and welcome to the February 15, 2022 board meeting. We will be opening up into closed session.
[0:17] I
[0:23] don't number one, pursuant to government code section 54957.6 conference with county designated labor negotiators Judy Hawkins and
[0:31] Shay Johnson regarding the following employee organizations,
[0:34] Calabers Public Safety Employment Association, CCPSEA.
[0:41] Is there any public comment?
[0:43] I know we have an audio issues online, but is there any one that they're able to get food?
[0:48] There is no public comment.
[0:49] Okay. Without we're closed into closed session and for the public if we're delayed it because of
[0:56] audio issues. We're still working on it. Thank you.
[1:11] Back in the matrix.
[1:25] Good morning. Good morning and
[1:28] welcome back to the Tuesday February 15, 2022 meeting at this time we'll stand for the pledge.
[1:46] would be probably, or would you stand one nation, under God, into the zone, with the liberty
[1:53] and in us as a sprawl.
[2:02] And we put out for a close-up operation.
[2:09] I don't number one pursuant to government co-section 54957.6 conference.
[2:14] The county does need labor negotiators, Judy Hopkins and Shade Johnson, regarding the following
[2:18] Employee Organizations, Calivers, Public Safety Employees, Association, CCP, SCA.
[2:25] There was no report of action taken.
[2:28] Thank you.
[2:30] Without one move on to staff announcement.
[2:32] This is a time for tiny staff to provide updates.
[2:34] I believe we have the service.
[2:37] The service fund.
[2:39] There you go.
[2:41] Good morning.
[2:44] I
[2:50] want to share that that's going to make sure fall and dark and other members of
[2:54] all.
[2:55] I'm a illustrious board all we're doing today.
[3:00] I just want to bring to your folks as attention some things that the sheriff's office
[3:06] is doing in the whatnot recruiting, deputies, and other staff for the county.
[3:17] Right now, we're down seven deputies, four dispatchers, six correctional officers, and two
[3:25] correctional technicians,
[3:29] the low and
[3:35] smaller and smaller.
[3:37] People are finding other avenues for work, which is unusual because the federal government
[3:44] is telling us our unemployment rates are way down, but we're having a hard time finding
[3:49] people I want to get in the law enforcement in one aspect or another. We're having that
[3:55] piece quitting because they just want to be police officers anymore. And the pool is shrinking
[4:00] because of this, not that it's a bad thing but the requirements that are being brought to light
[4:08] for the police officers as a whole are getting, again, more stringent. So we're more going to
[4:20] empathetic and helping us get people hired on and moving people through our process, which
[4:26] has been great.
[4:28] I would like to share with you folks today, as I have about a two-minute video that I have
[4:34] talked to some supervisors that they have never seen and I would like to give them the opportunity
[4:38] to see this.
[4:40] So I am going to attempt to share my screen and I am about as technologically challenged
[4:47] it does it gets. And let's see if I can do this.
[4:58] And you guys, is it sure? Yes.
[5:07] Can you see this? Okay, coming up.
[5:19] We have a new update that come to the work of Cali.
[5:24] This is a unique opportunity. I know it because that effects of the job.
[7:32] Wanted the board to see what we're doing to try and help promote the sheriff's office for the county.
[7:39] Any questions, comments, concerns?
[7:46] Thank
[7:49] you, Mr. Divesolio.
[7:52] You know, finally put forth.
[7:54] It looks like, you know, you did a lot good information.
[8:01] Good luck. Hopefully we can, you know,
[8:03] advertise Calvers County is the place that more
[8:06] long enforcement officers want to be.
[8:08] Thank you. Absolutely.
[8:10] And just, you know, we do, on Saturday,
[8:13] we actually have five.
[8:15] Well, we sent four people to the Academy, and we were able to pick up a fifth out of that
[8:23] Academy.
[8:23] So on Saturday, we will be graduating five folks from the Academy that will come out
[8:30] and be on our training program that is not reflective of the seven that we're still short.
[8:37] We had we were down 12, now we're down seven.
[8:40] But again, we're putting more people into the Stanislaus Academy in March and into the Delta Academy in March also.
[8:52] So we're moving forward and again, I got to give Kudos out to the HR department.
[8:58] They've been very helpful in getting these people into the process and move forward.
[9:04] Thank you for your time and you folks have a fantastic day.
[9:07] Can
[9:10] you provide the following?
[9:13] Sheriff, where are you using this?
[9:16] How are you using this?
[9:19] It's excuse me.
[9:20] It's been put out on Facebook.
[9:22] We advertise it in multiple areas.
[9:27] Almost social media.
[9:29] This has been put out on.
[9:31] I repost it on my Sheriff's Facebook page, my private page.
[9:36] On the Sheriff's Office.
[9:37] we've posted on our sheriff's office social media pages every so often just to keep
[9:44] the interest going and it's it's out we actually have taken it down to the
[9:49] academies and showed it at the academies and been able to pick up people out of
[9:54] the academies so well so we can so if you'd like to share it you're more than welcome
[10:03] thank you
[10:12] all right you guys have a good day thank you
[10:16] Are there any other staff announcements?
[10:21] There aren't other staff announcements.
[10:24] With that, we'll move on to the public health update.
[10:27] Ms. Allen.
[10:28] Good morning, Chair.
[10:30] Members of the Board.
[10:31] I'm going to help you in terms of agency director.
[10:34] We need to do well.
[10:35] We need to record public health.
[10:36] All we have is we have a lot.
[10:39] Not kind of medical centers to see you in the departure.
[10:42] Then you have a officer doctor whenever you're in the US.
[10:45] Today we want to give you some information.
[10:46] So basically the first one I will open up the side deck.
[10:55] Okay, so today's February 15th, we have our 6,989 confirmed cases of COVID-19
[11:05] virus, and currently we're looking at 42 active six hospitalizations.
[11:12] We have 57% of our eligible population who have accelerated.
[11:17] But, looking down, 7.29% fully vaccinated in February, but those youth aged 12 to 17 years old,
[11:30] but at the 30% 30.3% to be exact.
[11:35] We chose 6,840 of part cases, and sadly we've seen 107 fatalities due to the COVID-19 virus.
[11:46] We often want to see where we're at with our booster, where over 10,000 booster is provided to local residents.
[11:54] This data is affected as of yesterday.
[11:59] For the make-up cases, when we consider vaccination versus those who are unvaccinated,
[12:05] you can see here that you are almost six times more likely to contract COVID-19 if you are not fully vaccinated.
[12:12] For this start and the fact that you can see in this data set comes straight from the California Department of Health and this is a one week capture and the January this year.
[12:27] To keep it to look at those that further those who enter the hospital due to symptoms of COVID-19 and 11 and a half percent or times more likely to be hospitalized when they're not for the accident.
[12:40] it, so they will set same code at the time. But look at here, unvaccinated deaths are 21.8 times,
[12:51] more likely to occur for those that are unvaccinated. So this will be best be to the critical
[12:57] buttons of continuing to move forward a vaccination strategy. You will know that there are new
[13:04] My lines that have come out are going to be announced these yesterday, and last few of
[13:11] the reports that have to apply the wrongs prior to our winter planning.
[13:16] So, for our indoor applications, if you are vaccinated, the language being used is probably
[13:22] recommended to continue to wear a mask, because unvaccinated is a requirement that is going
[13:28] to be able to apply a mask that you wear a mask.
[13:30] Parties and local health restrictions can impose more strict order to the records that
[13:37] not last.
[13:39] Schools, masking information is separated out that information will be released in two weeks
[13:46] on February 28th, but is a roadmap being developed, information will follow soon.
[13:52] I don't set points to the power for the Department of Public Health Guidelines, for its guidance,
[13:59] and for the services or entities, for the most strength.
[14:02] So we do have Judy Hawkins to speak to that, and to that relates to the power she can follow.
[14:15] It's not that I was aware of that.
[14:18] Thank you for your time.
[14:19] Madam Chair, the members of the Board.
[14:22] So Kalashad does point to the city page for guidance and if the board members in August we had decided at that time to have all employees
[14:37] regardless of vaccination status to where face coverings win in the workplace.
[14:44] One of the main reasons that this was important was it was allowing those that were
[14:52] vaccinated to not wear face coverings and then employees who are not
[14:57] how to wear face coverings.
[15:00] We had a division in the workplace. It also made tremendous employees concerned that those around them may not be vaccinated, but not wearing face coverings. We had had many conversations with the unions and had fought forward a more strict policy when we did our update in August.
[15:21] And, although in December, the governor of Governor Newsome had stated that, you know, we
[15:29] will follow guidelines put out via the city page.
[15:35] It is still a recommendation that we continue to our face coverings in the workplace.
[15:42] Thank you, Ms. Hopkins.
[15:44] So, we do all two amounts that we put out a community health incentive coming out
[15:49] of the population received limited funds to 113,000 to provide themselves to carry the
[15:56] members who are doing their part in the fight against COVID-19, and that is in
[16:02] one of the public health care records purchased that will come up with a business to
[16:06] incentivize those who receive a COVID-19 vaccine.
[16:11] So to become vaccinated, that includes the time to start a July 1st of last year, and
[16:18] through April 30th of this year.
[16:21] Instead of downloading to those who are residents of Paris County,
[16:25] registration is expected to open as soon as February 20th.
[16:29] You can see we have five participants, business of locally,
[16:34] that includes the grocery out there in those friends,
[16:37] so Mark and Angel's film, remote care,
[16:39] and lots and lots of bodies,
[16:41] running for an extra level.
[16:43] For all limitations, these thick codes cannot be used
[16:47] to purchase alcohol, so that we can tune our own cannabis products.
[16:54] And let us share in that turn of this presentation over to Dr. Rivera,
[16:58] to talk with us about the trends in COVID-19.
[17:01] Dr. Rivera, what's your name, California?
[17:03] We continue to see state of problems of the unacroned variants.
[17:08] Dr. Rivera is very much dwindled, but it's frustrating here and there.
[17:13] I think the overall message that we just want to drive home with that presentation is the approach of vaccines and boosters.
[17:21] Vaccines and boosters are safe, ineffective, and the decrease mobility and mortality across the board.
[17:28] Just some personal story.
[17:31] My kids had COVID, just a few weeks ago, and my son came home with it.
[17:38] He and it was just the week before he was eligible to get his booster.
[17:41] And then eventually, he got his symptoms a lot worse than the other kids and he was fine.
[17:46] He thankfully didn't have to be hospitalized right there.
[17:49] But he had a really bad sore throat, a really bad aches.
[17:53] And then my two daughters, they also got COVID, but they had just received their vaccines.
[17:59] Just a few months ago, and they were fantastic.
[18:03] Thankfully, my life and I did not get COVID, and we did not drop any of them from sore tests out there.
[18:07] But we also had just received our boosters.
[18:09] this winter as well. So, no, just one story amongst all the others, but I can't tell you
[18:18] and to have it. How many stories? How many highlights? How many difficult conversations
[18:24] I've had to have with so many members in the community regarding the last of their loved one.
[18:31] And it just also so happened to be that they were not vaccinated. So, please protect yourself, protect your family, protect your friends,
[18:38] in curves, getting colored vaccines and the boosters.
[18:42] It also lives and it will keep you out of the hospital.
[18:47] And so now, let's move on to the adventure of the CEO of Natural Medical Summit.
[18:54] Good morning. Thank you, Goli.
[18:57] So, the information you see on this slide back
[19:00] over its front Thursday, so it remains after it.
[19:03] We have seven invasions that are covered part of the day
[19:07] of those seven of four
[19:14] B, I'm sorry, three are in the ICU, or on that search.
[19:20] Generally, they've been kind of sticking with the triangle a little bit lower curie than what we saw in the past,
[19:26] but the Delta variant.
[19:29] And generally, they are unvaccinated.
[19:32] So kind of go and
[19:36] mention other visits in the ED, so we're so seeing all the patients coming through the emergency room.
[19:43] But many of them are being able to be managed, you know, outpatient since I'm worth either oxygen or we've been doing a little bit of my final treatments that seems to be very successful for the revocations.
[20:03] We have also had quite a few, I can think of three in the last week,
[20:11] that I would refer to as like an incidental COVID positive patient.
[20:18] And just to explain that a little bit.
[20:21] So we had two patients, just last week, they had to pin the cytos.
[20:25] You know, they came in with stomach pain and classic signs of the pin the cytos.
[20:29] but we do regime testing before we had met or before we do surgeries and we had two patients last week with no true obvious COVID symptoms that were positive.
[20:42] So I'm just kind of an interesting little anecdote there.
[20:50] For the share of our presentation, I just want to let you know that we're feeling very similar pains in the recruitment world.
[20:58] The biggest challenge we have running now,
[21:01] COVID-related is stopping, and two years in, almost,
[21:06] and staff are tired, and the overtime shifts are harder to work,
[21:11] and many are taking vacations, and time off,
[21:16] and finding staff is very, very challenging.
[21:19] So I feel you're paying, and I think that's really,
[21:26] That's a part of it, we're still often testing through our client here in San and Davis, and I apologize to
[21:32] I'm down a little bit because of all the home test kits,
[21:38] but I'm happy to answer any questions.
[21:42] Okay, Mr. Archer. So, for the convention vaccine, a very interesting, we realize that we have a vaccine
[21:49] the end that has stopped every day of the Wednesday.
[21:53] And now that you're learning to 630 in the evening,
[21:57] they do have a static rotation,
[21:59] which is each day of the week.
[22:01] They do have a single patient in order to provide consistency.
[22:07] They let's see, we also have a pharmacy for the lowest energy.
[22:10] That provides vaccine as well.
[22:13] These two shots are available for every 1-1-1-1.
[22:16] And we keep slots available with the bill for the younger children in July 11 and we're going to keep that time just to make sure that the environment is child friendly.
[22:27] The visitors that you can receive, your eligible after six months from Atlanta after five months for five or five years and two months for the children in Johnson.
[22:38] So, you can see on the screen you do have a list of where a brand will be, it does put all the areas throughout our community, and it's going to be found on the Calvary's County website.
[22:53] So, while we're left with you at this image, multiple layers of protection against COVID-19 really do make a huge impact.
[23:02] But first, later, avoid more gatherings.
[23:06] The second improved indoor ventilation.
[23:09] The third layer of your nervous, if you just wash your hands, wear a mask.
[23:14] Get vaccinated and get out of the air booster.
[23:18] You'll find that you'll have a far greater at results in the end.
[23:23] So with that, any questions or whatever.
[23:33] Dr. Ramirez, are they, I guess, the CDC recommending a second booster for people who's just been
[23:49] news chatter on that. Thank you.
[23:52] There's no official announcement at this time for a second booster.
[24:01] Thank you, this is a question for administrative staff, I sent this in the email yesterday.
[24:06] In our policies for our employees, we use the term a fully vaccinated and it includes the booster shot.
[24:14] What is the correct definition of fully vaccinated versus up to date?
[24:17] How does that impact our policy and our employees?
[24:19] So,
[24:22] in me, our CPPP, we had to follow the recommendations, the requirements and changes for
[24:31] college, and then while we were in the process of doing that, then we had the change
[24:35] of also having to adopt pieces from the city pH.
[24:43] And so we added in the definition of fully vaccinated to include a booster, if eligible, because
[24:50] That is how, how OSHA, I'm sorry, the California Department of Public Health put in their policy regarding quarantine.
[25:01] And so we put that way, which in there.
[25:04] When employees, when they're comes an instance where we need to verify their vaccination size,
[25:10] we do talk through with our employees.
[25:13] We do have employees that are unable to receive the booster, and they have a medical exemption for that.
[25:19] And so, we have considered, you know, if eligible for the Vista, you know, they're not eligible
[25:25] with the medical conditions, those type of things, amount of how we have been administering
[25:29] the policy.
[25:31] So, our definitions are the same as CDPH, fully vaccinated, includes a booster, is that what
[25:37] you're saying?
[25:38] If that was your fault.
[25:40] And so, we use the language that CDPH used for their, to define quarantine and isolation,
[25:48] and where somebody has three vaccinated,
[25:50] which includes a booster,
[25:51] if that was your bowl, they do not.
[25:54] Their quarantine period is very different
[25:56] from everybody else.
[25:58] And so we know that language.
[26:09] Are there any other board comment before I put it right to bubble?
[26:15] Well, a little bit.
[26:17] Bubble, comment?
[26:24] Good morning.
[26:25] It's kind of nice feedback of the audience
[26:27] and not just on the Zoom calls on picky ranking.
[26:30] And I know I've called in several times
[26:33] when they do these presentations on the COVID and the vaccinations and it seems like we're
[26:40] still back in two years ago that we haven't progressed in anything that we understand.
[26:46] And there are new studies out, there are more studies that talk about for one, just the vaccination itself now has proven that it doesn't stop you from variants of what they call COVID.
[26:58] So, people that are getting Omakron, I know several that have had it that were vaccinated.
[27:04] I mean, that's just a known fact that vaccination has not protected people from Omakron.
[27:09] Thank God Omakron isn't as deadly as the Delta was.
[27:15] So, to tell people they have to get vaccinated and incentivize them to get vaccinated is ridiculous.
[27:21] us, and so then the other part that I've asked about, and I get the answer, while the vaccines
[27:26] are safe and efficient, well, that's just nonsense.
[27:32] So anyway, I wanted to share with you an article, and you can look up more on it, on
[27:37] yourself, but your leaders of our community, and if you don't understand what's going on,
[27:42] and we think we're going to vaccinate our children, that is the most horrible thing I've ever
[27:50] and we need to educate our parents on what this vaccination is and what it is and so that when they make that choice with their child, they know what they're getting into.
[28:01] And because this is this article is directed towards children and vaccinations, it's still about the vaccine itself and some of the dangers of this vaccine that we are starting to see now.
[28:13] vaccine, what has been out maybe a year, if that, there has been damaged to people because
[28:20] of this vaccine and now that it's not even effective against what they call the Omicron,
[28:26] and we keep pushing it, it just items don't even know what to say, but this is absolutely outrageous
[28:33] and we need to get back to normal
[28:37] to go around and keep wearing these masks. I mean it's horrible,
[28:41] I can't even see your faces and know what you're looking like, because that's, and then in our schools to continue putting these masks on children, it's child abuse and it always has been in my mind.
[28:52] So anyway, I just hope that you as leaders will start looking at this a little more seriously and start being an advocate for the children being an advocate for the citizens
[29:01] And stop this nonsense that comes out of our public organizations that are not even medical doctors in a lot of cases.
[29:14] So anyway, I wanted to share this article.
[29:16] I'm going to give you one, two, three, four, five, six copies.
[29:21] Unfortunately, when I made the last copies that wasn't as clear at the top.
[29:26] So you might have to look it up on money.
[29:27] But how do you give things to people?
[29:32] Thanks.
[29:34] So you can understand what this vaccine is about,
[29:37] because the person who wrote this article,
[29:40] he was one of the inventors of the MRNA technologies in the 80s,
[29:45] and so he knows what this vaccine is and what it is.
[29:49] And it is not a proven vaccine.
[29:56] It's an emergency use.
[29:57] So we have not had testing for years on this.
[30:00] That would be one of the reasons not to give it to children because it isn't proven. And anyway, I just hope you educate yourselves and I hope that our medical teams here that come and give these announcements every week would start reading more in depth and not just follow along with what the government's saying.
[30:19] And again, just to say, we see all around the world, not just in Calvary County but all around the world, the people are sick of it.
[30:27] They're tired of being told after wearing masks,
[30:29] they're tired of being told they have to get vaccinated
[30:31] and they're tired of being controlled by their governments.
[30:34] So let's get on board with freedom.
[30:37] Thank you.
[30:38] Thank you.
[30:40] Would that go any other public comment?
[30:46] There isn't no online public comment on that.
[30:48] OK.
[30:48] Thank you.
[30:50] To provide you, strawberry.
[30:55] To the vaccine point.
[30:57] First, it was stopped the spread.
[31:00] Now, you know, you know, you won't get a sick and you'll stay out of the hospitals.
[31:09] Now we have, sorry, booster shots of the Pfizer, BioNTech, and Moderna vaccines lose substantial
[31:18] effectiveness after about four months, but still provides significant protection in keeping
[31:23] people out of the hospital during the Omicron search. According to a study published Friday
[31:29] by the Center of Disease Control and Prevention. So now we're looking at possibly a booster
[31:35] every four months. How do we keep up to date? How does that affect us? You know, falling
[31:46] the science. It seems to be fluid.
[31:52] That's all.
[31:54] Got it? I'm not sure. I'll give a question or you're on a carry out with this more of it
[32:02] that is. I've just put things in my perspective. How do you know what happens with how
[32:08] lose yourself?
[32:11] Did you get the way with that book? Is it my usual?
[32:13] I don't know, not really. I wake up on my brain.
[32:17] I'll be on a side.
[32:18] So, the point is, come over yourself then.
[32:22] How many times does yourself come get updated?
[32:25] Even if you use the phone, it's up on.
[32:29] And to be in compliance with the county and your computer system,
[32:35] and IP, I'm sure there needs to be some update on time virus.
[32:40] And there has to be some secure measures
[32:42] You need to use your laptop or your cell phone or if you need mail,
[32:50] this finance is in real time.
[32:56] And we are doing our best to provide up-to-date information with the data that is out there.
[33:04] There is a virus, and the virus continues.
[33:09] viruses are not new, viruses have been allowed, well, before we have viruses constantly
[33:16] tried to outsmart the host. That's what viruses do. There is a time when Apple computers
[33:23] which have to be being immune to viruses, but that's not sure anyone. Same with the other
[33:29] cell phones. This is what the virus will do, and what we do at scientists, doctors, people
[33:37] and health education, people and public health, is we do our best to stay out today with the
[33:44] most current literature and the most current recommendations and I would welcome anybody
[33:53] on this call, anybody in the world to come up with a solution please because the world is asking
[34:01] And they are helped help us to find a solution to make this
[34:09] irrelevant anymore.
[34:12] But as a right panel, Black Zoom and people are continuing to provide up to date vaccinations.
[34:21] To account for the changes in these variants.
[34:25] These are people who are working to help other people.
[34:29] So, my question is, for everybody there, please go to us, come up with a solution to help other people.
[34:39] Not to harm other people.
[34:44] As evidence by the statistics, that Ms. Coral and Sheldt,
[34:49] fixed times in more likely to just contract the values, almost 1-2 times more likely to die.
[34:56] Now, everybody who has a full OK for any type of investment option, I'm sure you put
[35:03] your money in places that are off of our last year, but we're here denouncing science without
[35:13] a better health care, safer, alternative,
[35:19] that concerns me.
[35:23] Thank you, Dr. Amiz. I have some questions. I look very surprised. I have some questions. I think maybe there's going to be more to record to Judy.
[35:41] You mentioned earlier that the last time we visited all the policy was in August.
[35:46] What is needed from us to support staff to reevaluate if needed, the policy and update it to
[35:57] reflect the current, and then recommendations coming out?
[36:05] I guess one of the concerns is to, you know, ID's boosters that come in out, how are we going
[36:15] report some of this information, because we're not checking vaccine codes, we're not checking
[36:20] this data, it's an honest system at this point, and we want to kind of make everyone
[36:28] on the same page here.
[36:31] So just to be clear, what I stated that we had done in August was to require the face covering.
[36:38] The policy was updated in January, as required by Cal OSHA, they had come out with new
[36:45] new definitions and requirements in their ETS, and then we also had the order by the governor
[36:54] and December to also incorporate the changes by the California Department of Public Health.
[37:01] So it was updated and sent out to everybody in January with the vaccination status.
[37:10] We do have staff such as behavioral health public health and the pressure officers who have to provide us with proof of vaccination.
[37:23] So, they have to have a file with exemption with HR.
[37:28] And so, we do have those that have to provide actual proof.
[37:32] We are working with those departments right now to get their updated status to ensure that they are eligible for their visitor.
[37:40] They were that they have received it.
[37:44] And those that have exemptions, we test weekly, and then put your local service who are not vaccinated, we test weekly.
[37:54] And that's done. They have the option to come to HR and do the testing.
[37:58] We have both PCR and the energy and test available for employees.
[38:05] Also, if we have an exposure, if somebody is exposed to COVID and we have the
[38:11] other station that they are fully vaccinated, then we do reach out to them to get the
[38:15] proof of fully vaccinated.
[38:18] So under those circumstances, we do make sure that they provide the appropriate proof.
[38:24] Okay, thank you. I guess go back to my original question later. What do we do? We add a board of need to support staff and update in our COVID policy at all at this time.
[38:41] So I have worked with Kelly Council on updating this policy. I'm not sure whether it is the board needs updated but we can in any concerns we can definitely address.
[38:55] Just based off of your comment that we're most hooked in August, I just want to make sure that we're given the support from the board level to keep up to date that is needed.
[39:06] I, the changes are coming down the pipe. So if there's no support that needed from the board to discuss further problems you change, then that's fine.
[39:15] I just want to make say that was on the same page with you guys and you know that we need
[39:23] to support any changes that I needed.
[39:26] So just following up on your question, Madam Chair, this CPP is an administrative document
[39:32] put through by the administrative office.
[39:34] We don't vote on that, correct?
[39:41] I agree with our gentlemen, let's just make sure that we're doing it correctly.
[39:51] You answered my question.
[39:52] Thank you, Judy.
[39:53] Thank you.
[39:55] Any other board comment?
[40:01] With that, if the Miss Allen, if there's nothing else to the presentation?
[40:06] I would like to thank you so much to the public half-devisual
[40:09] and the public half-devisual urgency.
[40:11] But what the government will do is, what the President is doing is absolutely upstabbing.
[40:17] They have managed to do the ups and downs, and probably, like, you would please make sure
[40:22] that the two members do so.
[40:23] That's how much we are pushing for the entire work.
[40:28] And that's all.
[40:30] Thank you, everyone for being here today.
[40:38] With that, we'll move on to item number three, which is recognition and acknowledgement.
[40:45] Quoke.
[40:52] I've number three, proclaim the week at February 14th through February 18th, 2022 as Kindness
[40:59] Week in Keller, County, and further deemed the county as a random acts of kindness, though.
[41:06] I believe Mr. Bogant is in the womb.
[41:13] I will read off the proclamation,
[41:21] where is National Random Act of Kindness Week will be
[41:25] at J. February 14th through 182022, and where I was currently participating in Random
[41:32] acts of kindness week in 2010, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, 20, and whereas all
[41:45] who lived and all were within college, County, I encourage to practice random acts
[41:50] of kindness, a tradition started in English care by Jim Bagan's family. And now, therefore,
[41:56] be it resolved that the college, County Board of Supervisors, designated the week, a February
[42:01] to be kindness through the county and with that, any comment from Mr. Regant?
[42:16] I am Jim Berghanses, you well know, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate the Board
[42:22] of Supervisors support for this over the years.
[42:26] That random excommunists week is ongoing. They're going to celebrate the kind this day,
[42:30] nationally on the 17th, which is Thursday, so the County Office Education, again,
[42:34] been supportive of our effort, of our little home spun effort to try to change the world
[42:39] one person at a time. So this year we made 5,000 of these kindness wristbands up and our
[42:46] pastime out around the school district. And so we came up with actually an honor my lovely wife
[42:52] Judy who said, but we should put on the kindness wristlet is wristband is kind of starched with
[42:57] me because that's really what it, that's where it starts for sure. And so not me, but me,
[43:02] everybody collectively. So, the hope is that planning
[43:07] seeds of kindness making kindness the topic first that is an
[43:11] decision second and an action third. So, with that, here's a
[43:15] hundred wristbands for YouTube, pass around your family and
[43:18] community as you go back out into your community and also here for
[43:21] the county. So, I do thank you for your support. I hope we've
[43:24] back next year and perhaps we'll see some of these on risks around.
[43:29] So thank you.
[43:32] Thank you.
[43:33] Any other comment?
[43:35] I do.
[43:37] To Mrs. Joseph.
[43:41] You are a random act of kindness to Calaberos County.
[43:45] Thank you for starting this.
[43:48] Though I do miss my coronation.
[43:52] Well, we do live in a really nice place.
[43:54] And we have a lot of nice people.
[43:57] You know, the world beats kindness now more than ever. I keep saying that every year last year
[44:02] We took the year off for COVID wasn't sure how we're gonna do it
[44:05] But I went to see Scott and the CCOE and he said let's do it for sure 100% behind you
[44:10] So give a lot of credit for the county off-sadjudication
[44:13] Credit to the community of the citizens so be watching for the kindness wristbands and make a difference. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jim
[44:21] Thank you
[44:22] And would I, the motion by the board?
[44:26] Do any further public comment?
[44:28] Is there a motion by the board on line?
[44:35] All those matters, Chair?
[44:37] Is there a second?
[44:38] All second, Madam Chair.
[44:42] And be it further resolved that the Board of Surveysers
[44:45] decoded that the County of Carvez
[44:47] to be deemed a random act of kind of stone,
[44:51] during the week of February 17th
[44:53] and continued from that day to the year
[44:56] 2022, all those in favour. Bye!
[45:00] I did that backwards.
[45:04] So if anyone in the public that was you to get
[45:09] a whole hand put the dog for now.
[45:12] And grab more.
[45:16] You walked out of all the other.
[45:22] Thank
[45:25] you.
[45:34] Okay.
[45:37] Now we're moving on to the next item, which is general public comment.
[45:43] This is any item of interest to the public that is with the subject matter, jurisdiction of the board and is not posted on the consent or regular agenda.
[45:52] It may be addressed in a public comment period.
[45:55] California law prohibits the board from taking any action on the matter, which is not posted on the agenda, unless it's determined to be an emergency by the board.
[46:03] Is there any general public comment?
[46:08] Any online?
[46:09] There is no online public comment.
[46:11] Okay.
[46:14] We move on to consent agenda. The multiple items on the consent agenda, is it any board member that wishes to pull off the consent agenda item.
[46:25] He and none, is it any public comment on consent agenda item?
[46:30] There is none online. Okay. Would that either motion to approve consent agenda?
[46:35] So, let me ask you.
[46:36] Okay.
[46:38] All right.
[46:39] All right.
[46:39] All right.
[46:40] All
[46:46] right.
[46:46] Without was hit a minute for everyone ten minutes.
[46:52] Ten minutes.
[46:53] For that to get ready for the regular agenda information or item for item number eight.
[47:26] So back we will start off with our resident item number eight and I believe Gina, they want
[47:38] hi
[47:41] everyone we're back in session can we can we have everyone payment tension enough
[47:50] It's a little bit quieter in the background, thank you. Sorry, Ms. Fondor.
[47:54] Thank you.
[47:58] Okay, do you know, I did have the cloak read out what we're back to talk about, though.
[48:05] I don't know. Number eight is informational item from planning. The presentation of the general plan implementation annual work program and request for direction on priorities.
[48:16] Okay, good morning everyone. Oh, let's see if we can get this thing sped.
[48:50] You're seeing the powerpoint.
[48:52] Do you know before you get started, I'm sorry.
[48:54] This way.
[48:54] You push the display settings button at the top.
[48:58] Is this much setting at the top?
[48:59] There's a drop down.
[49:02] Okay.
[49:03] Do you see it at the very end of the middle?
[49:05] It says show task bar.
[49:08] Oh, yes.
[49:09] Yes.
[49:09] you click the drop-down and swap presenter view so that we can see the full PowerPoint.
[49:15] How's that?
[49:15] You?
[49:18] Perfect.
[49:22] Okay.
[49:23] Only I've got this on the wrong slide.
[49:30] You know.
[49:41] I'm assuming you guys, so you see the PowerPoint up here tonight?
[49:45] No.
[49:48] Was that enough?
[49:50] No.
[49:50] You'll find we can see it go ahead.
[49:53] Okay.
[49:53] Thank you.
[49:55] I just need to move this out of my way here.
[49:58] Okay.
[49:59] So as I'm just briefly explained today, I am here to provide you with an annual report
[50:09] of the Teleponent Implementation Measure Program as we quote by General Plan Implementation
[50:16] Measure at AU-1A.
[50:22] So as I'm sure you recall, you adopted the, um, the telephone update back in November of 2019.
[50:32] This included a number of implementation measures that were incorporated into the plan, um, specifically we have a total of 213.
[50:44] And 90 of those, once established, will be on going measures 27 of those relates specifically
[50:52] to the zoning code ordinance update.
[50:59] In 2020, you gave our department direction, setting priorities for the following list
[51:08] of implementation measures, including the development of the vice-primes and co-op loss community
[51:14] plans. We will go through these lists individually through the next series of slides.
[51:26] As you recall, adoption of the general plan updated many inconsistencies between the existing
[51:35] zoning of properties in comparison to the newly adopted land use designations. We refer to
[51:44] This is a cleanup effort more formally known as the countywide zoning map update through
[51:52] this exercise.
[51:54] We determined that we were going to go ahead and re-zone all of the intern zones of unclassed
[52:00] item highway service at the same time also to be consistent with the new land use
[52:06] designations that were just adopted.
[52:08] So, as your group, we prepared a revised map showing all of the new zoning that was
[52:18] heard by you and adopted in March of 2021.
[52:24] Shortly thereafter, we realized that we had overlooked a number of parcels, ran those
[52:30] through and you did the final adoption of the ordinance in April 20, April 27, 2021, so the countywide zoning map update is complete.
[52:46] Next, we move on to the comprehensive zoning ordinance update.
[52:50] As you recall, we've already convinced this process.
[52:56] We've brought forward to your presentation in January of 2021.
[53:03] Where we are today is we've basically broken down the entire code into three different sections.
[53:10] staff is completed our preliminary draft of the Zone Districts and Youth Regulations.
[53:18] I am nearly finished with my revision of the county wide regulations, but we have yet
[53:27] to dive into the administrative procedures that will be the last one.
[53:32] So once we give a preliminary draft completed, we will start to begin public workshops and study sessions.
[53:42] We've determined that it would be for easier for everyone if we kept the separation of these documents and we will be bringing them forward to you and the public separately.
[53:56] Once we get all our public comments, we will go ahead and package up that complete draft and bring it forward to you for consideration.
[54:07] Initially we were expected to include the short-term vacation rental and special events provisions.
[54:14] Now we're thinking that they need to be pulled out of the comprehensive updates to get additional input from the public as well as the industry
[54:23] to ensure that we are headed in the right direction and works best for the county.
[54:29] I think this is going to take a little more detail than we would like to kind of spend
[54:36] time on with the rest of the updates, so we kind of disappointed those out, but we will
[54:41] be looking for direction from you and it'll be up to you to decide exactly what you want
[54:49] take. Last year Peter had reported to you that he was expected that the one that was expected
[54:58] to be completed by Spine of this year, but as you know, due to staffing situation, the
[55:05] progress on the zoning ordinance has been rather slow, but as soon as we acquaint a new director,
[55:13] we anticipate significantly picking up that pace and continuing on.
[55:22] So the values for those community plans, values for those policies have already been adopted.
[55:28] Those were rolled into the general plan back in September of 2020.
[55:33] We have yet to commence the process of developing the copper lockers plan.
[55:40] We find that there's great value in holding community meetings,
[55:44] did a COVID that's been rather difficult.
[55:47] I'm hoping that those regulations will soon ease up a bit and allow us an opportunity
[55:54] to invite the public in this to participate in this exercise.
[56:01] Once again, once the planning director is appointed,
[56:05] I am certain that we will commence the process
[56:09] of the COPROPALS community plan.
[56:11] I know that there's a lot of individuals out in that community that are anxious for us to get moving on that and I can assure you we are as well.
[56:22] Greenhouse Gas Base Line, a Reduction Plan.
[56:25] We have already been started.
[56:28] We've been actively working on that.
[56:30] As you may recall, that is a program that is funded through C-Cog.
[56:35] We have been working with the consultants along with the city of Angels.
[56:40] We have broken this process down into two phases.
[56:46] We took the baseline inventory forward to the planning commission.
[56:50] They do have some concerns prior after that.
[56:56] The reduction plan will be phase two.
[56:58] So once we get through, once we get this through to you and get some further direction,
[57:05] Then we will hopefully commence the process of the reduction plan and continue moving on.
[57:13] I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on this because we are preparing a study session
[57:17] to bring forward to you in March that will include the consulting team as well as Amber Collins with the card.
[57:31] So the real and benefit-based and fee update in addition to the traffic impact study guidelines.
[57:37] The traffic study guidelines were adopted in 2020.
[57:42] I've consulted with public works in regard to the benefit-based and RIM fee updates.
[57:48] They've informed me that they are working on a request for proposal for consultants that is currently being prepared.
[57:55] and that they do expect this to be a multiple multi-year program.
[58:04] Farmland mapping and the resource production conversion mitigation program.
[58:12] So the O.C. has the map, farmland mapping, all online.
[58:20] However, it doesn't include some outdated Williams and App to Data from our county.
[58:25] We were unable to get the most updated data before they put that map online, but they do update the map every two years.
[58:36] And so we do have an opportunity this year to collect the data that we need to get to them, so that they can upload that's most current,
[58:46] we're in tonight that which will then enable us to move on to the next step, which will be the beginning of the development of the mitigation program.
[59:01] The mitigation program, this project has yet to be initiated.
[59:09] I approach the Oak Route Hardwood Advisory Committee during their January meeting about assisting us with the drafting of this mitigation plan.
[59:18] We will be furthering this discussion with them at the next scheduled meeting on March 31st.
[59:28] So, have it really drafted anything yet?
[59:30] It's still just in a discussion phase, but we have reached out to them to see if it's something perhaps
[59:38] maybe that they can assist us with if not, then we may be looking at hiring a consultant to help us with the plan.
[59:50] With that, it's short, it's sweet, that concludes my presentation.
[59:56] If you have any questions at all, I'm sure...
[1:00:00] That this is an appropriate time.
[1:00:03] Are there any boy in person who have any good power?
[1:00:08] What about updating the other community plans? That was the discussion that we had.
[1:00:18] Well, it's not on the list of priorities that I've retrieved from last year's presentation to the board, but certainly if there is a public interest in that,
[1:00:31] And then, you know, we can, I'm certain that we can commence those as well.
[1:00:37] And what about a dark sky ordinance?
[1:00:40] That's going to be up to you, and whether or not you want that to be a priority.
[1:00:46] Right now, it should be something that will be ruled into the overall zoning code of date.
[1:00:54] It would be?
[1:00:55] We can, yes.
[1:01:00] I'd like it.
[1:01:02] Of course, I'd like it for people like it now, so do I ask my colleagues now for their thoughts?
[1:01:17] Don't speak up.
[1:01:18] That's all right.
[1:01:21] This is a foreign question.
[1:01:23] I would like a dark sky ordinance as part of or some permutation there of as part of the zoning code update.
[1:01:34] I
[1:01:43] guess there's no support on this sport for a dark sky.
[1:01:46] I know.
[1:01:47] I know that.
[1:01:49] I have one question for dinner.
[1:01:51] How much work are we adding to your load or do we need to do a separate list?
[1:01:58] Because I'm a little bit worried with not having a planning director right now and
[1:02:02] to start burdening the department even more.
[1:02:06] So I just want to make sure that we all underwork understand that.
[1:02:10] not that to be dismissive, I just want to make sure we're conscientious of what we start
[1:02:15] acting for where this conversation leads.
[1:02:19] So I am hopeful.
[1:02:23] Probably no.
[1:02:25] If you recall, I've only got another five weeks as your interim director.
[1:02:31] And then I will be falling back to my old position as a planner three.
[1:02:36] I am hopeful that we will have a planning director in that amount of time.
[1:02:42] Basically, what we are doing as staff is just kind of putting together our own version
[1:02:49] of a plan to move forward, identifying those obviously priorities that we're hearing from
[1:02:57] the board, in addition to things like, you know, that sky ordinance, I think it's loud and clear,
[1:03:04] It's been something that's been dispressed for a long time, not only by you, but the planning
[1:03:11] commission as well as the public.
[1:03:14] So these are things that we would be gathering a list of and presenting to our new director
[1:03:19] upon that day, and I'm certain that as a group, we will be moving forward with all these things
[1:03:28] once we get a new director.
[1:03:31] Thank you.
[1:03:35] Supervisor Jim and Lee.
[1:03:37] Gary, go ahead.
[1:03:38] Well, I was just going to say.
[1:03:41] Thank you.
[1:03:42] That.
[1:03:43] Gina, if you remember years ago, I think there was a draft ordinance that we discussed.
[1:03:50] Probably ten or twelve years ago.
[1:03:52] I don't know.
[1:03:53] That draft ordinance is still around.
[1:03:57] You can dig it up or find it in a nice station time.
[1:04:00] Okay.
[1:04:00] make that presentation back to us that drastically.
[1:04:05] So you would call us a staff actively working on that.
[1:04:09] We presented a draft to you.
[1:04:10] I can agree to help me here.
[1:04:13] 2009, 2010, that time.
[1:04:17] And it came before us, but we didn't.
[1:04:19] We didn't do anything with it.
[1:04:21] It became with the noise ordinance.
[1:04:24] Oh.
[1:04:24] Much of the other things it came before us at that time.
[1:04:27] But it should be, we should have it backwards, it's on it.
[1:04:31] OK, that gives you a little more direction.
[1:04:33] I'll dig your own, see what I can find.
[1:04:36] That might make matters a lot easier.
[1:04:43] Gina, thank you very much for the last five months
[1:04:47] that you've kept this vehicle going.
[1:04:49] I think the board, I speak for the board,
[1:04:51] and that we really appreciate what you've been doing,
[1:04:53] keeping this place together.
[1:04:55] It'll be very interesting.
[1:04:55] We get a new plan, director, and how we approach this,
[1:04:58] prioritize, I mean, I think that, you know, going back a decade at Dark Star, Skyrim is
[1:05:04] a good thing to do.
[1:05:06] How it fits in the priority, unless that is really going to be the question.
[1:05:10] And I hope we can work that through with the staff and then the new tractor when they come
[1:05:15] on board.
[1:05:17] And we have to talk about, okay, well, when we have that, how are we going to enforce it?
[1:05:22] And how are we going to make it clear for people?
[1:05:23] It's not just blowing up the code enforcement's phones,
[1:05:27] and everybody's light out in front of their house.
[1:05:29] Those are all questions.
[1:05:31] It's a little, it's complex, but it certainly
[1:05:33] would support dark sky support.
[1:05:37] It's a little, it's a little, it's a little, it's complex, but it certainly would support dark sky support.
[1:05:39] If I name that in chair, I completely agree with Mr. Garmini and Ms. Cowway doesn't need to be done.
[1:05:48] We have to watch what the enforcement is.
[1:05:51] How far we go, whether it's high density and everything else.
[1:05:55] If there's some work done, maybe we could use as a basis by also rewannery, main cognizant
[1:05:59] of the workload for the planning department until we get a new planning director in there.
[1:06:05] At that time, I feel we should definitely sit down with the new planning director and go over
[1:06:11] with them what our priority list is, so that we can all be on the same page because every director
[1:06:19] Well, it's differently. I do appreciate the work that's happening now,
[1:06:25] you know, that that's beside the point. So, you know,
[1:06:29] I'm open to the dark skies, ordinance, especially if there's some work done and maybe we just need to make a few minor changes.
[1:06:37] I'm open to it. You know, I'd just not the top of the priority list when I look at things, but I'm definitely open to it.
[1:06:49] Super bad is your color away?
[1:06:51] Oh, no.
[1:06:55] Is that colorful you, Gina?
[1:06:58] Yes, I'm searching.
[1:06:59] I'm searching you right now.
[1:07:01] We'll see if we come up with something.
[1:07:04] Okay.
[1:07:06] There's no further comment from the board.
[1:07:08] I'm going to turn it over to the public comment.
[1:07:11] Is there any public comment either in the room
[1:07:13] or online?
[1:07:19] Looks like we might have an online.
[1:07:30] First of all, before I get started, the drugs fight ordinance you're looking for was on the Planning Commission agenda on November 19, 2009. That's 11909.
[1:07:46] So, I'm Tom and Fesino and here on behalf of the Calvers Planning Coalition.
[1:07:51] Thank you for the opportunity to comment by the implementation priorities for the 2019 Gerald Plan update.
[1:07:58] Today we pose a number of questions we hope to get answered.
[1:08:02] First regarding staffing, we agree with the statement on page 3 of the staff report that staff and limits have significantly affected department over the past year.
[1:08:13] We would like the hiring of the planning director and in addition to that, the filling of the vacant planter street position and the filling of the GIS and agriculture department positions to be a priority.
[1:08:26] We'd like to know what you the board think about that.
[1:08:29] Second, on the zoning code update, the staff report notes that the code update has been broken into three sections and a preliminary draft of two of those sections are nearly complete.
[1:08:43] We let the CPC believe it may be easier for the public and the development community and perhaps
[1:08:50] you the board members to review and comment on the ordinances if they were released in
[1:08:55] these smaller parts rather than all at once, what do you guys think?
[1:09:01] Also, at the 2021 priority setting meeting, the planning director indicated that it would be
[1:09:12] If you are creating the open space zone,
[1:09:18] we have the CPC support that recommendation.
[1:09:22] We believe that it is important to have a map that identifies priority lands for long-term
[1:09:28] conservation.
[1:09:30] What do you guys think?
[1:09:35] Third, the copper office community plan.
[1:09:40] The CPC would like the county to start this community planning process in copperapolis,
[1:09:45] What do you think?
[1:09:49] If community plan processes are not going to begin on the Highway 4 corridor, please consider
[1:09:55] putting on the Board of Supervisors agenda quarterly workshops on planning issues of concern
[1:10:01] and options for addressing those concerns in those communities along the Highway 4 corridor
[1:10:06] that don't have community plans.
[1:10:08] Arnold, Murphy's Douglas flat, A.R. Hathaway Pines, and Coppire Opolis.
[1:10:15] What do you guys think?
[1:10:17] First, the GHD Reduction Plan.
[1:10:21] We agree with page 2 of the staff report indicating that the GHD Reduction Plan will not proceed
[1:10:27] without clear board direction on the draft GHD inventory.
[1:10:32] The CPC would like the board to provide that direction in the next 60 days.
[1:10:38] Your time is currently at,
[1:10:45] thank you.
[1:10:48] Coke is there any other public comment on that?
[1:10:51] There is not.
[1:10:55] Anyone else in the audience before we bring it back to the board?
[1:11:00] Okay.
[1:11:00] We'll bring it back to the board.
[1:11:02] Any further comments on the information or item by board members?
[1:11:11] Okay.
[1:11:13] Gina, thank you. Appreciate it. We're forward to having a good discussion later on.
[1:11:20] We're going to get a new planning to update, which is hoping knock-on work will be soon
[1:11:24] about it in later. Yeah. Well, we'll be happy to come back and have another discussion
[1:11:32] and get our new director out of speed. Okay. Thank you for the update. Thank you.
[1:11:41] next we will move on to agenda item number nine. Actually if we could take a break
[1:11:48] to allow back to get set up I apologize. So do we 10 minute break?
[1:12:06] Okay. Are we ready?
[1:12:08] Okay.
[1:12:12] Before we get started I just want to let everyone know that the
[1:12:16] presentation being given to us will cover both nine and 10 but then we will go
[1:12:22] mark out an address 9 and 10 separately.
[1:12:28] Is that clear of that?
[1:12:31] So, we'll move on.
[1:12:32] Clerk, can you please read both items
[1:12:36] that the presentation will be about?
[1:12:40] Item number nine is an action item
[1:12:41] from the Division of Cannabis Control
[1:12:43] introduced in way full reading of un codified ordinance.
[1:12:46] Reducing the gross receipts tax rate
[1:12:49] For cannabis activities, specify the Section 3.56.050C2 on a temporary basis as authorized by Section 3.56.070.
[1:13:00] Authorized summary publication requires affirmative four fifth vote.
[1:13:04] Item number 10 is an action item division of cannabis control and, due to the way full reading of an uncodified ordinance,
[1:13:10] We're reducing the cannabis cultivation tax rates, specified in section 3.56.050B-13 on a temporary basis as authorized by Section 3.56.070, authorized summary publication requires affirmative or fifth vote.
[1:13:29] Thank you.
[1:13:30] And good morning, Madam Chair.
[1:13:32] Members of the Board of Supervisors, Greg Wayland, your director of cannabis control.
[1:13:37] The item today, as was just stated, recommends the introduction, waiver of reading and
[1:13:42] authorization of summary publication for an un codified ordinance, that would reduce the
[1:13:47] canopy taxes, our local taxes, on cannabis activities, including cultivation and retail for
[1:13:54] the two items that are before you today.
[1:13:57] Just as a little bit of background, it's always useful to put a reminder out there that the difference between taxes and fees is significant for our department, our department is a fee funded department, and all of our activities in the permitting process are all funded through fees paid by cultivators, taxes on the other hand, are paid by cultivators as well, and are paid as general revenue funding for the county.
[1:14:22] The issue that we're presented with today is whether or not the board should make a response to what we're seeing as prevailing conditions in the market today of a steep decline in wholesale cannabis prices.
[1:14:38] This is a relatively recent phenomenon in the last six months that to the point that it's at today, at least.
[1:14:45] and it's the division of cannabis control to believe and recommendation that it does
[1:14:50] more and some action by the Board of Supervisors and will be happy to present on that.
[1:14:56] It's also an issue that is incredibly complex to parse through and irrelevant.
[1:15:00] Global Ministry, a complex industry in the state, both from a regulatory and taxation standpoint.
[1:15:08] I'll do my best to walk through the local tax implications and speak to some of those complex issues.
[1:15:16] But at the end of the day, the most concrete evidence I have for you today, is the actual impact on our local industry.
[1:15:22] that taxation and regulation, particularly from the state has imposed.
[1:15:29] Today, we have 14 cultivators that are a rears in one quarter of taxes.
[1:15:36] We have two cultivators who are in a rears,
[1:15:39] or 13 that are in a rears in two quarters of taxes,
[1:15:42] and four that are in a rears in three quarters of taxes.
[1:15:46] So this is a significant fact because
[1:15:50] The Division of Cannabis Control has the authority to revoke permits for non-pay taxes.
[1:15:58] And the cultivators, most of whom are all fairly recently permitted, they stand a lot to lose,
[1:16:06] and this is something that they would drive very, very hard to avoid.
[1:16:10] So it's a significant tell-tale of the straits that they are in today.
[1:16:15] So what I'd like to do is dive into a PowerPoint that will address some of these issues in more detail.
[1:16:52] So, as stated, this is an item that proposes the reduction of taxes.
[1:16:58] There are two different taxes that issue.
[1:17:00] You have cultivation tax, which is a square footage of canopy tax.
[1:17:04] And that's in Section 356050B133 of the county code.
[1:17:10] And then you have the gross receipts tax, which for our all-intentioned purposes today pertains to retailers.
[1:17:17] We currently have four retailers.
[1:17:19] And that's a gross receipts tax and subsections see.
[1:17:25] So one of the issues that we're seeing is a complex setting where we're seeing growth in our local industry.
[1:17:33] But at the same time, fairly significant hurdles for the industry as they grow and continue to adapt to the business.
[1:17:40] climate in California.
[1:17:43] And so one of the key concepts that I want to emphasize is that
[1:17:49] structural loss of businesses in the county is a significant thing compared to what the
[1:17:56] board might see just to propose an idea that it takes much longer for a business to get
[1:18:00] up and running than it does to forgive or reduce taxes for a short period of time with the
[1:18:09] businesses recover or whether the storm.
[1:18:12] If the board recalls on July 10, 2020,
[1:18:16] measure G came before the board for the board to consider
[1:18:19] adopting a resolution that would come on election
[1:18:23] to adopt measure G by the voters.
[1:18:26] In that ordinance that the board put to the voters
[1:18:30] was a provision that allowed the taxes to be lower
[1:18:35] in the board's discretion and I'll get to the exact language
[1:18:38] of that.
[1:18:38] That provision was actually discussed and deliberated by the board, and ultimately it was changed so that a quartet's code requirement was added so that if the taxes are in fact lowered it must be done by a quartet's code.
[1:18:53] The taxes can be restored, so long as it's within the maximum amount of taxation that measure G allows.
[1:19:03] So, I'll get to that exact language, but it's significant because it begs the question of
[1:19:07] what is the correct tax rate.
[1:19:11] It was set initially at $23 and $4 per square foot for outdoor in a mixed light and indoor
[1:19:18] respectively, but that was a starting place.
[1:19:21] And the voters of this county expressly granted the board of supervisors discretion to make
[1:19:26] changes to that if they find that it's appropriate to do so.
[1:19:30] And that's the question that is before the board today is what factors render that appropriate.
[1:19:37] And I think that market conditions and preserving local businesses want such, are too
[1:19:42] such factors that the board should consider.
[1:19:46] It doesn't necessarily mean that any particular action is required or called for it,
[1:19:51] but it does show that the board has discretion to take up this issue and make a decision today.
[1:19:58] And it also, it also puts out there the issue that those initial tax rates were designed to be changed.
[1:20:07] And it expressly gives the board the authority to do that.
[1:20:14] So, again, what we're proposing as a response for the board to consider today is whether tax rates should, in fact,
[1:20:23] the temporarily reduced to help address a sharp decline in prevailing cannabis wholesale
[1:20:30] prices, as well as logistical issues that the industry is facing as it continues to grow.
[1:20:35] And again, adopts to a regulated cannabis industry in California without the relief, the
[1:20:42] division of cannabis control, which I'll call DCC for now on, and this is an educated
[1:20:49] Yes, at what we might see in terms of attrition, but is somewhere between 20 and 25% is what I would think
[1:20:56] That we may see in terms of loss and as I mentioned at the outset, we have 14 businesses that are to link with 1.1 or 13
[1:21:03] 2.4 and 3.4 and 3.4 and chapter 3.5, 6.1, 20.D gives some guidelines on what that might look like in terms of education
[1:21:15] but it's one of the issues that I felt was appropriate to bring to the board to discuss this today before developing a fair and uniform way of handling that with the industry.
[1:21:29] Again, the idea that it's easier to sort of lend a hand to the industry rather than see structural loss of businesses, one of the key concepts that I want to put out there today.
[1:21:41] In fact, 20 to 25 percent is realistic, which is what I think.
[1:21:48] So getting back to the provision of measure G, that was adopted by the voters by approximately
[1:21:54] two-thirds on November 3rd of 2020.
[1:21:58] Subsection 070 authorizes the adjustments of rates and the provision that I referred to as
[1:22:08] line in this, the underlining has had it. The Board of Supervisors may buy a four-fifths
[1:22:14] code and pose the tax authorized by this chapter at a lower rate and may establish exemptions,
[1:22:20] incentives, and other reductions as otherwise allowed by state law. The section goes on
[1:22:26] to state that they can be re-restored. In fact, the ordinance that we have proposed today
[1:22:31] would self-terminate. So unless the Board took this issue up and assuming the Board took
[1:22:36] action today to introduce this item.
[1:22:39] It is a self-terminating ordinance, but the board is free at any time to go in and adjust and
[1:22:45] adapt as you see progress.
[1:22:48] And as I stated, one of the benchmarks of success should the board choose to move forward
[1:22:54] with this item.
[1:22:55] Would be how many businesses we see start to recover and catch the breadth a little.
[1:23:00] As we go through 2022, and that's something that the DCC would be happening to continue
[1:23:05] comes to the board and provide you information on as we go along.
[1:23:09] Again, if this item is introduced and ultimately adopted,
[1:23:17] so the proposal that we've brought
[1:23:20] to you today is a reduction of the essentially what is today a retail tax but a tax that
[1:23:26] would also apply to distribution, reducing it from 5% down to 2% so that's a 60% reduction.
[1:23:33] And then as far as cultivation goes, it would be a 50% reduction across each of the three tax rates.
[1:23:40] So that would be $1.50 and $2 for, respectively, for outdoor mixed light and indoor cultivation.
[1:23:49] There are significant differences between the two businesses and the implications for tax.
[1:23:54] We have, again, four retailers, and that is not as dynamic as our cultivation permits are because we currently have,
[1:24:02] believe about 53 permits that are conditionally authorized. And so the number of permits
[1:24:08] just to show one of the dynamics and all of this on what the measure G revenue might be
[1:24:14] if this were adopted, we can see growth at any time. We can see the number of permits increase,
[1:24:20] we can see E-crees 2, but 53 is a significant number because at this around the same time last
[1:24:27] here we had around, I believe between 37 and 43 conditionally authorized permits and in
[1:24:34] hell or year 2021 our permits grew by total of 54 percent in one calendar year and the total
[1:24:43] square footage by 43 percent. So that's very significant. It shows you just one of the factors
[1:24:49] here that essentially can change the dynamics of this significantly in a pretty short period
[1:24:55] time. But 54% of calendar year 2021. So our proposal, which we've set out there as a reduction
[1:25:06] of 50% on the cultivation tax rates and a reduction from 5% to 2% on the other cannabis
[1:25:13] activities that we permit is what the proposal is in item 90.
[1:25:19] Just to sort of give the
[1:25:21] forward some context, there's really no set pattern that we're seeing around the state.
[1:25:27] The reaction is very different, as are each of the jurisdictions.
[1:25:31] Monterey County does not authorize.
[1:25:33] It's my belief that Monterey County does not authorize all the activities that we do.
[1:25:38] You have humble county, which last Monday actually voted to reduce their cannabis exercise
[1:25:44] tax.
[1:25:44] I believe by 85% by the significant number, Nevada County San Francisco County actually
[1:25:51] suspended their tax rate, but their taxation on cannabis activities is a significantly less
[1:25:59] percentage, probably, of their total revenue that they used to provide services to the
[1:26:05] city and county of San Francisco.
[1:26:08] So, in looking at this, what I can't tell you is that there is no set way that jurisdictions
[1:26:13] are addressing this.
[1:26:15] In fact, the rate of taxation in the basis of taxation varies from jurisdiction to
[1:26:20] So the question is, what's right for tellers, tellin', and so that's the question that we wanted to bring to the board if we've discussed today, and it can look like whatever the board seems appropriate if anything at all.
[1:26:40] So, this will provide some more detailed figures on the square footage and these quarters
[1:26:48] refer to your calendar year 2021.
[1:26:51] As you can see at the start of calendar year 2021, we had about 1,305,940 square feet
[1:27:00] of outdoor canopy, indoor was just 1750, which is more than doubled in that year.
[1:27:08] All told the rates of increase for outgirls 42% mixed life was 53% and forced indoor more of the double.
[1:27:21] In fact, we're seeing a trend that as the program matures, we're seeing more and more transition to mixed life and indoor.
[1:27:30] And there's a number of reasons for that that I could speculate on, but that's just the trend.
[1:27:36] mixed-life increased by almost 10% more in calendar year 2020 more, and so the applicable tax rates being applied, you can see on the bottom portion of this slide, what the total revenue would be in those calendar year quarters, and so of course it increased for outdoor to
[1:27:58] $926,000, roughly $4,250 for indoor and roughly $262,000 for next life.
[1:28:09] So this illustrates the drastic change in the program and why it was so difficult to fix
[1:28:16] what the impacts of a rate reduction might be on the industry, and more importantly what
[1:28:22] the change to revenue for the county might be if the rates more lower because 2022 is just
[1:28:29] started and we don't get know if this year is going to look like in terms of our applications
[1:28:33] improvements.
[1:28:36] And one thing that I wanted to also mention regarding the industry itself and
[1:28:40] as the board takes up this issue. Today we have 516 CBCVs. The number of CBCVs has grown substantially
[1:28:48] since this program started.
[1:28:50] 516 is a large number of employees working in industry and so there's also a downstream
[1:28:57] effect that the board should consider with this item of what are the impacts of those
[1:29:04] employees being in our county knowing the restaurants, gas stations, service stations,
[1:29:10] virtual stores, hardware stores, any number of places that they go.
[1:29:14] Not all of them are currently most like, I mean, I would assume that most of them are active,
[1:29:20] but probably not all of them, but all the same, it is a large number of employees that the industry employees in a county.
[1:29:27] And that's all of our owners and workers that we track through our background check process,
[1:29:32] who go through the trouble of applying with us, passing the background through the Talkey of a J,
[1:29:37] and obtaining their CVCV badge. So these are, these are people that show them some investment in our community.
[1:29:45] So, permit and canopy totals. Again, this is another snapshot that shows the increase in the number of permits issued, which was approximately 54%.
[1:30:00] And calendar year 2021, which is what these figures are. 68 is still current. We have 68 permits today.
[1:30:15] This is another depiction on the increase in taxes owed by the cultivators.
[1:30:23] And so you can see the increase between the quarters of calendar year 2021.
[1:30:29] And because this year is just beginning, it's difficult to say what this is going to look like,
[1:30:33] with those 53 conditional approvals.
[1:30:36] I will say that despite prevailing conditions in the market,
[1:30:40] these are all people who have paid their main application fees,
[1:30:43] so they are pretty invested at this point in their application
[1:30:46] and advanced, because they have gone through the trouble
[1:30:49] of the innovation team, accessory rights for title rights
[1:30:53] to property and gone a long way towards establishing a business.
[1:30:58] Excuse me, but if I may just,
[1:31:01] So there's numbers cumulative, are those broken out?
[1:31:05] These are by quarter.
[1:31:05] Those are by quarter.
[1:31:06] Yes, okay.
[1:31:07] Thank you.
[1:31:10] And I have some other figures that are not in the PowerPoint, but these are going to be discussed
[1:31:17] in terms of percentage, but the actual figures themselves are not actually, I'll present
[1:31:24] on this in just a minute when we look at the deficits in payment of energy.
[1:31:33] And here it is.
[1:31:34] So, one of the things that I've seen with our industry is a desire and commitment to following our regulations and one of the things that you'll know before the one, we have 44 permits, all 44 permits pay their energy tax and Q1 and 2021, so that's 100 percent.
[1:32:01] quarter two, 58 permits, 54.8, that's a total payment percentage of 93.1.
[1:32:09] In Q3, 67 permits, 49.8.
[1:32:13] And so you can start to see the trend that we've seen
[1:32:16] since the beginning of quarter three and twenty-twenty-one.
[1:32:20] Which, for nearly, I'm especially proud to be a third year
[1:32:23] that they're receiving revenue.
[1:32:25] So we had to state that this would be a time period
[1:32:28] where they would be able to more readily meet obligations
[1:32:32] for the payment tax that they solved the first.
[1:32:35] And so that's another point that is in terms
[1:32:39] of the headlines that they've run into in the market.
[1:32:44] So that payment rate is now 73.13 per cent today.
[1:32:49] In court court, we've just ended up
[1:32:51] January very first, and we'll be two weeks past that final few days.
[1:32:55] We have a total payment rate of 55.88%.
[1:33:01] So those total paid figures are for Q123 and four,
[1:33:05] respectively, 763,000 roughly, 815,000, 824,000,
[1:33:13] and a quarter four, 630,000 dollars.
[1:33:18] We have noticed that because of the logistics bringing
[1:33:22] products market that a lot of the time for it, our coalition parties will catch up and it's
[1:33:29] not a problem to see a couple of weeks go by or maybe a little bit more time and so we
[1:33:35] expect for the 55.8% to come up as product is brought to market and sold because a lot of
[1:33:43] that is accountable for them right now. But that is what it is today. It's 55.8% and that hasn't
[1:33:51] in June, where he, this year, so it's been a couple of weeks since those payments were
[1:33:58] finally due.
[1:34:02] This is a visual that helps depict what we saw and you can see in the blue line
[1:34:09] the number of permits and 2021 and in the first quarter payments are even with the number
[1:34:18] permitties, and you can see the number of permitties going up, and the orange bar, and
[1:34:26] sort of skate of someone among them, and it's gone down,
[1:34:32] and on the left hand columns, the
[1:34:34] numbers going up to 80 pieces, numbers from it, and the color of the right tip of the
[1:34:38] column is the percentage of the paint. So the orange line going across the middle of this
[1:34:44] shows the decline in the percentage of payments as tell of year 2021, well, and this
[1:34:54] is part of what, and this is part of what may not feel that this was, and I don't
[1:35:00] know, that should be brought to the board's attention for consideration was this decline
[1:35:05] in the number of payments of measure G-tox,
[1:35:11] and again, just another depiction of the total
[1:35:15] balance between the number of permittees and the permittees that are paid from the left to
[1:35:23] the right and you can see there are even in the progressively, the link link as you get
[1:35:29] to court for. And again, we do expect the number of permittees that have not paid to catch up,
[1:35:38] but nonetheless, this is where things stand on them today.
[1:35:43] In terms of projections,
[1:35:46] I have
[1:35:47] The caveat that all of these projections are very difficult to assess, there are several factors
[1:35:54] that make it extremely difficult to predict what we think the revenue will be, including
[1:35:58] what's going to happen at the state level this year in terms of regulation and tax relief.
[1:36:05] And then also our local, our local cannabis industry, whether we are going to see a global
[1:36:11] like we saw last year which certainly it's poised to do but due to market conditions we don't
[1:36:17] know how that's going to look this year nonetheless there are factors here that make
[1:36:21] it very very difficult to really project with any accuracy what these will look like so
[1:36:26] what we did was we project in a loss of about 45% 35% of actual revenue received in Q4 of
[1:36:34] We believe that this estimate is conservative, and it would be equal to $49,788.99.
[1:36:43] To $346,444.51 per quarter for a total of $1,639,155.88 to $1,386,978.
[1:36:59] for $970 or $4 for the entire county year or $22 with the addition of retail revenue
[1:37:09] and with add a total of $191,269.30 which reflects a reduction of 60% compared to what we received in
[1:37:23] I mentioned earlier, retail is a little different than the cultivation and the retail is not.
[1:37:31] This is more static than cultivation.
[1:37:34] We have four, and it's probably going to be four, and not dramatically,
[1:37:38] change and come to the 2022.
[1:37:40] It has to do with the market here locally.
[1:37:43] Whereas cultivation can be distributed and moves around the state.
[1:37:47] So it's a little different, and in its voice for growth.
[1:37:51] So we think that the 191,000 is fairly accurate
[1:37:55] for what the revenue might be.
[1:37:57] Under measurement sheet for retailers.
[1:37:59] But another issue that we can't really project is what
[1:38:03] would be our revenue for distribution,
[1:38:05] because that has just recently gone up the ground.
[1:38:08] And so you can see there's another factor
[1:38:10] that makes it difficult for us to tell.
[1:38:11] So we showed, we believe that it would be best
[1:38:14] to go with the figure that is inserted.
[1:38:16] and based on the concrete data that we have, and with the 45% to 35% reduction.
[1:38:25] And what we get is a projected revenue of 1,830,425 dollars of 18 cents.
[1:38:34] In between that, 1,528,247 dollars to 34 cents per calendar year 2022.
[1:38:41] So, with the Caliots, those are difficult to assess, this is our best educated, yes, on
[1:38:47] what those might look like.
[1:38:50] To provide your stopping.
[1:38:52] Quick question.
[1:38:54] As to the gross receipts, you know, it's a blanket gross receipts that it's applies to distribution
[1:39:01] and retail, correct?
[1:39:03] So with that said, last year we did a slight change to 17.95, allowing distribution, and I think
[1:39:14] we opened it up to a possible five full-blown type of 11 types of distributed distribution
[1:39:21] within our county.
[1:39:23] How many people have put in application for full-blown type of 11 distribution in inside
[1:39:30] our county?
[1:39:32] It's my recollection that we have limited distributor applications, but I do not believe we have a general disk right yet.
[1:39:39] The general, so there's no general distro underneath that.
[1:39:42] I don't know, actually.
[1:39:43] So it's possible there could be one that I don't think so.
[1:39:46] Okay.
[1:39:46] Thank you, Greg.
[1:39:47] That's who I thought it was, but I just want to make sure that I'll bring that up later.
[1:39:53] Thank you, Ben.
[1:39:54] Thank you, Ben.
[1:39:55] I think we made a really strong case for certainly the impacts on the growing community and understand commodities and how that goes.
[1:40:06] Since we're doing both presentations together, tell me, can you unpack the impacts that have been happening to the retail side?
[1:40:13] Because I'm seeing prices fall to the floor for the wholesale side from the growers.
[1:40:18] I'm not seeing prices reduced on the retail market,
[1:40:22] which makes an educated mind, I have.
[1:40:25] I think that the margin is growing larger in there.
[1:40:28] So maybe you could help me understand
[1:40:29] why we're reducing taxes on the retail side.
[1:40:34] Is it filtering down to that?
[1:40:36] It's the, it's, it's, it was our belief that,
[1:40:40] that, relief to any of the local cannabis businesses
[1:40:43] would trick, would trickle down.
[1:40:44] And I think that generally speaking, the retailers are going to feel a little bit of the same market adjustment that cultivators will, to some extent, because the entire industry is growing and adjusting to the regulated environment.
[1:41:05] And so I don't have specifics as to how much exactly a way to make that objective for you,
[1:41:16] but that's the best response that I can give you.
[1:41:18] I'm just thinking if I will use industry on more familiar with,
[1:41:23] but prices at Rayleigh's and Safeway is going up,
[1:41:26] has been rising for beef,
[1:41:30] whereas the people who produce the beef,
[1:41:34] prices haven't been raised.
[1:41:35] So, someone in the middle is making some money there.
[1:41:39] I'm just concerned that I have to understand the trickle down, but...
[1:41:44] That's
[1:41:49] right.
[1:41:51] Thank you.
[1:41:54] Any more to your presentation?
[1:41:59] After the question that was up from T.C.
[1:42:01] I just want to make those wrapped up and you have presented everything you need to say.
[1:42:09] Yes.
[1:42:11] Yes.
[1:42:12] Okay.
[1:42:12] Any other staff comments at this time for the board of the public?
[1:42:18] Okay.
[1:42:18] So what we're going to do is we're going to open it up to public comment.
[1:42:23] We're moving over to public comment.
[1:42:25] We're going to do in the room.
[1:42:31] and then we will revert to online to make it easier for the cloak to make sure everyone
[1:42:36] turd, want to all public comment, then we will come back to the board after everything turd.
[1:42:43] Please be mindful of your minutes. There is the light on the podium and for those of you online
[1:42:50] on room, there is supposed to be a sound that beeps, I guess. So the cloak will help you with those
[1:42:57] coming in on the jumps. So without we'll open it up to public comment, yes,
[1:43:09] yes, yes, I wanted
[1:43:10] to clarify today's meeting if you will be voting today to do this one or the other or will this
[1:43:18] come back, I see there was a notice in the, they should go home for the first public, first public
[1:43:26] So, you both are voting today, but we'll have another opportunity to.
[1:43:31] Today, if I may, my chair, today is the introduction of the ordinance and the waiver of first reading.
[1:43:40] And this is, yes, by your comments, I'll come back to the board for adoption of future meeting.
[1:43:45] Okay, thank you for clarifying that.
[1:43:51] So, with public comments and the presentation covered both items, I think that needs to be
[1:43:59] clarified too.
[1:44:01] We are going to start with comment on item 9, then we will come back and do public comment
[1:44:09] on item 10, so that way there is no confusion, so we will start with public comment on item 9.
[1:44:21] No comment.
[1:44:32] Yes, I'm going to comment on number 9.
[1:44:34] Bikki-Ranky with Calvary's Residence against Commercial Merijuana, and I know we sent you
[1:44:40] a quick memo that you may or may not have gotten in time.
[1:44:46] But we're concerned about reducing the tax that the voters voted on.
[1:44:54] And I want to remind you that what was the purpose of bringing this industry.
[1:45:00] Secretary de Calvary's County, all of those of us who were here through the five years of discussion,
[1:45:05] it was to bring in revenue to our general fund. That was our main purpose as a board that
[1:45:14] brought forward this, even though the people truly asked not to have it, even come to this
[1:45:21] County. So that's one and I think there was a good question asked by Jack that, why do we
[1:45:29] reducing retailers percentage? They're at 5% right now and again I want to remind you what
[1:45:37] it said in the tap when we voted. The voters pamphlet has a little blip that people vote
[1:45:44] from that. You very few people will go and read the whole ordinance and see what was actually
[1:45:49] in the ordinance, but you know, that was something we helped try to educate the public,
[1:45:55] but what was in that ordinance?
[1:45:56] Anyway, it's said to improve essential county services, including road maintenance, crime prevention,
[1:46:01] environmental regulation.
[1:46:03] She'll measure establishing maximum cannabis activity tax rates.
[1:46:07] Not to exceed $7 per square foot, we're nowhere near that, and 8% of gross receipts.
[1:46:15] We are nowhere near that.
[1:46:16] So that's what the people read when they voted.
[1:46:19] they got oh eight dollars square foot and eight percent on retail. We started off with a five
[1:46:26] percent tax on retail and we started off with a $2 tax on outdoor $3 tax on mixed light and a
[1:46:36] $4 tax on indoor, which seems fair enough to me as a citizen that those were fair taxes.
[1:46:45] The people who wanted to come here and open their businesses and do what those taxes were,
[1:46:50] they also saw it on what the people were voting on.
[1:46:55] So, you know, keep that in mind, we're talking about reducing taxes on people.
[1:47:00] And we're only looking at for 64 people that have a permit in our county.
[1:47:07] Hopefully, you will really think this through because it was three people on this board that put this whole thing through in the first place.
[1:47:14] So it wasn't even a majority of our board that approved all this marijuana cultivation, marijuana dispensaries.
[1:47:25] So those are the main points for you to think that through before you reduce the retail tax on our retail businesses.
[1:47:35] And like they said, it doesn't look like there's a big reduction in people buying and paying the price.
[1:47:41] Oh, thank you.
[1:47:49] Jennifer District, too.
[1:47:51] I'm going to be real quick today.
[1:47:52] It seems like you're creating a protected class and that's on American.
[1:47:56] And I think that each one of you should be talking to people in your own districts, not just the growers,
[1:48:02] because 64 people isn't a big expanse of the constituents that you guys have.
[1:48:09] So if I haven't seen any town halls, any information about this, you're not getting any feedback from any of your people.
[1:48:15] besides the ones who want the reduction.
[1:48:18] And I don't think a reduction in taxes is going to fly very high
[1:48:22] when you keep putting people like me in the vise.
[1:48:25] I still have to pay everything I owe.
[1:48:27] And if I don't then my property gets put up
[1:48:29] and some kind of list that says the government is going to take it.
[1:48:32] So, you know, I just entired of being on the wrong side of government all the time.
[1:48:39] We're just getting squished and squished and squished.
[1:48:42] And I'm looking at Canada thinking it's about time here too.
[1:48:45] I just, I hope you guys hear me.
[1:48:53] They go any more impotion, comment before we have one more walkin'
[1:49:07] up.
[1:49:07] Aurora, where'd the V district five?
[1:49:11] You know, reducing the taxes on the retailers for the marijuana group.
[1:49:17] If you do this, are you going to lower it on everybody else that have been curtailed under the COVID rules?
[1:49:24] and their business is closed,
[1:49:30] the general fund was to receive this money and under the urgency ordinance there was still 3.5 million dollars that wasn't collected by the county from previous growers and maybe even current growers.
[1:49:46] I submitted a question number 11 on that very amount of money.
[1:49:53] No answers have ever been forthcoming.
[1:49:58] So now they can't pay their taxes.
[1:50:01] Did anybody think about the law that says they can have six plants
[1:50:06] and if you've got a husband and a wife, that's twelve plants.
[1:50:10] Did anybody consider the illegal grows that was going to affect their market as well?
[1:50:18] Or the outside influence of the cartels coming in and bringing in more contraband over the border into this country.
[1:50:32] So they want to tax reduction.
[1:50:35] Well, if those money doesn't go in the general fund, then if the tax payers of the county such as myself, are we going to subsidize these people?
[1:50:45] because they're not paying their taxes, but I'm paying my taxes.
[1:50:52] And if I don't pay my taxes, you take my property and you sell it at the gazebo out in
[1:50:57] the courtyard,
[1:51:00] I'm on a limited income.
[1:51:03] My taxes went up $600 last year.
[1:51:08] I brought my papers to the tax department and asked for clarification when I was told,
[1:51:14] is they brought my property out of depression due to the sales values of the homes around
[1:51:21] thing. That's apple and oranges. My house isn't worth $500,000. Thank you.
[1:51:44] At least my summary, District 3. Thank you for all your hard work and thank you for
[1:51:48] lying to speak. I don't really think anybody here wants someone to fail. I understand these guys
[1:51:54] they're working hard, it alarms me a little bit
[1:51:57] that they didn't get up to speak.
[1:51:59] I wonder if they know they'll come.
[1:52:03] Signal Insight, are we ignoring signal Insight?
[1:52:06] I kind of think we are because all the signs were there.
[1:52:10] Smarter, faster, safer, greater, farther, better.
[1:52:12] Why are we not doing that?
[1:52:14] Incentives, when someone is not doing well,
[1:52:18] is okay except that I looked up all the counties
[1:52:22] that did start to lower the taxes, it did not improve the rate of how many people brought
[1:52:29] in taxes or the amounts. So the whole purpose behind this, I really question it.
[1:52:37] So if you reduce the taxes, what we're really saying is, hey, let's defund law enforcement,
[1:52:44] let's defund programs for the seniors, the planning, every department in this county, we're
[1:52:49] be funding it by doing this because that's funded by the general fund.
[1:52:54] So I think we have to look at all the employees and say, yeah, you're going to get less.
[1:52:58] You're going to have to do with less, even though you've been doing with less.
[1:53:02] There's 11 million reasons why we shouldn't do this.
[1:53:07] That was the amount that the growers promised us to remember the sign there on the way into
[1:53:11] town.
[1:53:12] Oh, we're going to give you 11 million dollars.
[1:53:15] It's never been 11 million dollars.
[1:53:17] So I worry about that. Also when you're finding section one letter H, it says we have to do this because we have to preserve the barrier between the illegal grows.
[1:53:27] If we let them be more successful, which this is not going to do.
[1:53:30] It's going to preserve the barrier between the legal grows. That's not true.
[1:53:35] As soon as we allowed commercial marijuana here and tried to regulate it, we had an increase in illegal grows.
[1:53:44] And that is, if you check with law enforcement, you will see it.
[1:53:47] In the intensity, the severity of the crimes and the amount of legal gross, the amount of them grew.
[1:53:55] So just check that with law enforcement. That's the fact.
[1:53:57] So my question is, and just someone wise once told me, if you catch yourself digging yourself a hole,
[1:54:05] it's probably best just to put the shovel down. That's all I have to say.
[1:54:10] Thank you.
[1:54:18] I'm not sure anyone getting up any more inputten of the clerk or switch over to, there is no public comment online.
[1:54:30] Okay.
[1:54:32] Do you know that there is no public comment?
[1:54:34] We're going to back to the board.
[1:54:40] Supervage is done.
[1:54:44] I've received a lot of correspondence both sides of this.
[1:54:51] something clarified Mr. Garmin the last year I brought up the gross receipts tax when
[1:54:56] I applied to distribution. Some more so Mr. Wailing didn't just conjure this up out there.
[1:55:02] I asked this to be looked at for the reason of distribution. Where they were succeeding
[1:55:09] across the state one of they were places like Klinga, Sacramento,
[1:55:16] El Dorado where they were
[1:55:17] 2% they were sustainable.
[1:55:20] There's no technical right-offs when it comes to distribution
[1:55:23] with the way the tax code works.
[1:55:27] So this is the reason I asked Mr. Whalen to bring this forward.
[1:55:31] It wasn't in the interest of retail at the time.
[1:55:36] And listening to Mr. Whalen,
[1:55:40] there's
[1:55:42] zero general distribution applications at this time. If someone would put one in and find
[1:55:49] a place, it would take them over a year to develop that business. So that's not really part
[1:55:55] of the conversation I originally intended it for and I brought this conversation up prior
[1:56:00] to the current situation that's being brought before us. The retail side, although, you know,
[1:56:10] The gross receipts is passed on to the consumer.
[1:56:17] So, at that time, they aren't being hit by the tax as much as they're passing on to the consumer.
[1:56:24] So, my original intent was for distribution, but unfortunately, the gross receipts tax blankets both retail and distribution.
[1:56:34] right now, I don't think even though I ask you to bring this forward in the past just because
[1:56:40] I want to look at the economics of it, the two percent will affect the industry as much
[1:56:52] when it comes to sustainability just because of the facts that I just brought forward.
[1:56:56] So, my apologies for asking you to look into that, but it's not really part of the factor
[1:57:05] now, as much as the canopy tax is in the discussion.
[1:57:10] So, my first suggestion on this is if the board soath wants, let's leave the gross receipts
[1:57:23] tax at 5% for right now and continue on with the debate about the canopy tax.
[1:57:30] And then also the debate about the SunSight set date.
[1:57:38] Thank you, sir.
[1:57:39] Thank you, sir.
[1:57:41] I agree.
[1:57:43] I'm about what I, we need to expand businesses in Calvars, Karen.
[1:57:47] And I hear what you're saying about the distributor.
[1:57:49] ship, you know, we got 516 CBCBs on the cultivating side by Merrily.
[1:57:58] Last majority was our, you know, I factor of three, you know, say three jobs are spun out
[1:58:02] at every one full-time job that's 1,500 jobs when the cement plant was going, it was roughly
[1:58:08] the same size as it's industry, it was just concentrated, not distributed, so we have to protect
[1:58:13] that.
[1:58:13] But you know, you may be on a good point looking at item number 9 or 10 and then 9 or 9.
[1:58:23] I do support if we could create a new industry, the distribution, that's a positive.
[1:58:29] I just don't want to be given a break to a retail who may not need it as much as the people who produce some of the commodities.
[1:58:41] Something wanted to?
[1:58:44] Well I did I didn't think while you were speaking supervisor, stop it, it's something that if you if there is interest from the board we could break back and sort of study what we're seeing in tax rates and distribution in other counties at a later date.
[1:59:00] That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's I think I think right right now it's apples and oranges and it's not going to really have an effect on on the industry like like the can't be taxed so right right now
[1:59:12] with no potential applicants and even if they were to put in an apply, I think that the gross
[1:59:19] receipts tax is a no point in my mind and I apologize for having you look at it earlier
[1:59:27] you know that was my original intent but the distribution thing when it comes to a general
[1:59:35] distribution, the five spots that we opened up hasn't become a reality yet,
[1:59:42] so if there
[1:59:45] were applications, we have the ability under this law to come back and figure out how
[1:59:51] we can incentivize a new industry, which I think would be appropriate. We want to have
[1:59:57] new businesses. We want to be appropriate.
[2:00:01] I'd like to move this from three quarters to four quarters, because I don't see a change. I also would like to keep it. I would like to recommend reduction. The other all other businesses, non-canovist businesses, were allowed to apply for COVID relief funds. The cannabis businesses were not allowed to apply for COVID relief funds.
[2:00:31] I'm talking just retail now, and I know what's passed on to the consumer, but the consumers
[2:00:44] also have to eat cost and if we could at least, if we could lower that would also help
[2:00:51] the consumer, and so I think we should accept it for four quarters, and I will be asking
[2:00:59] not also for the cultivators, move it from three to four quarters, and the distribution
[2:01:09] I'm willing to look at that later, it's not part of this, but
[2:01:19] that's where I stand
[2:01:21] on this issue.
[2:01:22] I would want to modify it to go from three to four and accept the recommendation on the
[2:01:29] balance.
[2:01:34] Any other board comment?
[2:01:38] Good.
[2:01:39] That's a supervisor.
[2:01:40] Calibur, I respect that point.
[2:01:42] I just wanted to offer some rationale for the three quarters where why that was added.
[2:01:48] So a lot of the times indoor mixed-line,
[2:01:50] are successful in making products that are more marketable and easier to distribute to retailers
[2:01:55] because of the quality of the properties of the product.
[2:02:01] The outdoor crowd seems to have been hit the worst, and growing season roughly, we thought
[2:02:08] if something that was sort of measured so that the board can come back and have a look
[2:02:13] at this.
[2:02:14] At a later date, but it was roughly corresponding with what their growing season was, so
[2:02:18] that they're getting back into the harvest season by the end of the third quarter.
[2:02:21] That's why it was three quarters.
[2:02:31] Any animal?
[2:02:35] I'm receptive of the four quarters, but staying at 5%,
[2:02:48] okay, so as long as we're talking about, we're so pro-business, you know, we use that word, when COVID came, we worked, I was really proud of the work the board did on grant on helping our local retail businesses stay in business
[2:03:10] But in this case, we're not doing anything to help this retail business and I think if we're
[2:03:23] a business and we're also concerned about the consumer that we should consider the recommendation
[2:03:30] of going from five to two.
[2:03:39] Any other comment from the board?
[2:03:41] That comment, before I bring a back poem, this is an actin item, so any other comment from that?
[2:03:49] No, thank you.
[2:03:52] Is an actin item from number nine, so it...
[2:03:59] Of make a motion?
[2:04:03] Super-like establish?
[2:04:07] I'm going to go outside the recommendation, but I'm just going to say let's, I'm going to vote or make a motion to keep it at the 5% gross receipts tax for the time being, please bring something back in the future when it's convenient, so we can actually study this.
[2:04:26] I would add in the four quarters, but it's a move point at this time on item number 9.
[2:04:34] The four quarters is a move point?
[2:04:37] On number 9, yes, because with my motion remaining at 5 per cent, there's no sunset date on 5 per cent this cowway.
[2:04:50] So, is that clear enough?
[2:04:52] If I may, I think that, and I could be misunderstanding, but if the motion was to not do anything from the status quo,
[2:05:06] then we don't need a motion for that.
[2:05:09] It would be to just not take action today.
[2:05:11] But the bullet could certainly give stock direction to do as supervisor talk or suggest it and study something additional or bring something back in the future.
[2:05:19] I would appreciate that.
[2:05:23] That's my suggestion.
[2:05:26] Supervisor Gamedy.
[2:05:27] Yeah, I just, you know, I'm not against this.
[2:05:30] I don't have a hard line.
[2:05:32] I just want some data back of why we're doing it.
[2:05:35] And we've made a very strong case on number 10.
[2:05:38] But I just need some data back up number 9.
[2:05:40] We can't introduce this modify it from three to four quarters, effective January 1.
[2:05:52] No, you could certainly make that motion.
[2:05:57] We can't wait to just walk away and do nothing.
[2:06:01] Then what does that mean?
[2:06:03] So, again, I may have misunderstood, but I understood supervisor stoppers, I suppose, motion
[2:06:09] to be too weak things of this as they currently stand today, is that correct?
[2:06:17] Yes, no.
[2:06:17] That is correct.
[2:06:18] And so, simply as I call it, I was merely pointing out that if that is the world of the
[2:06:23] board, that wouldn't require a motion, that would just be to take no action today.
[2:06:28] It sounds as though you're proposing
[2:06:31] an alternative motion
[2:06:33] that is basically what stuff has recommended today,
[2:06:36] but extending it to what orders
[2:06:37] and you could certainly make that motion
[2:06:39] if you were so inclined.
[2:06:42] I am inclined.
[2:06:45] So I wish to make...
[2:06:47] I wish to...
[2:06:49] No.
[2:06:50] Lots of quotes by saying,
[2:06:52] could we don't need to make a motion on that?
[2:06:56] So I wish to introduce
[2:06:59] the way of reading of the ordinance and modify it from three to four quarters.
[2:07:06] Motion on the table is a second
[2:07:11] died in a lack of a second.
[2:07:15] Please.
[2:07:16] Please bring back a study so you can come back into this further unless there's another motion.
[2:07:24] The board's intent is not. I'm sorry.
[2:07:27] No, please bring it back for this study and then please I'll incorporate
[2:07:35] this suggested changes as well. Okay, so that is item nine. We're moving on to item number ten.
[2:07:45] So we had the presentation earlier. We are now open item number ten public comment into what's out with the room and then we'll move to the
[2:07:55] Please be mindful of the light and fun of you to be finished.
[2:08:00] I don't have to call you out in mid-sentence and waste your time.
[2:08:06] The public comment.
[2:08:10] Chair Full and Dorf and Members of the Board.
[2:08:12] Good morning and thank you to the opportunity to be heard.
[2:08:14] My name is Dr. Bonne and I'm an attorney who's practiced as focused on cannabis policy
[2:08:18] and licensing over the last six years, including multiple farms here in Calabaris County,
[2:08:23] continuing to operate in good standing under the county's program.
[2:08:25] with several others proposed for permitting.
[2:08:29] First, on behalf of my clients and signatories to the letter submitted yesterday regarding
[2:08:33] measure G tax relief, I want to extend a sincere thank you for your thoughtful consideration
[2:08:37] to help our cannabis farmers and business owners in their effort to survive this extremely
[2:08:41] difficult time.
[2:08:43] As you know over the last year, the cannabis market in California has experienced a severe decline
[2:08:47] in wholesale pricing due to several factors, including an under supply of retail outlets
[2:08:52] statewide and in oversupply of product from local jurisdictions along the central coast, allowing
[2:08:57] mass scale low quality production. Over the last two years, a vast majority of permitted
[2:09:03] forms here in Calabaris County have operated in substantial performance of local and state regulations.
[2:09:08] Additionally, through the collection of permit fees during this period, the county has been able
[2:09:12] to validate the intent of its program, through the funding of several county staff and sheriff's
[2:09:16] office positions, which is advanced enforcement of commercial regulations, as well as impacts
[2:09:21] against illegal operations.
[2:09:23] However, under current market conditions, local farmers who have invested into transparency
[2:09:28] and compliance under a local and state business licensure have been left really,
[2:09:32] with their livelihoods and, as well as the viability of the county's program on the brink of
[2:09:36] collapse. At this critical point, while the proposed 50% reduction in the Measure G tax rate
[2:09:41] is appreciated in principle, we must do more to truly provide our legal operators the ability
[2:09:46] to restabilize their businesses and compete with counterparts in other local jurisdictions across
[2:09:51] state.
[2:09:52] Notably, Humboldt County recently reduced their local tax rate by 85% for $1 per square
[2:09:57] for the canopy to 15 cents.
[2:09:59] Humboldt's local program is the most comparable to the structure of businesses upholding
[2:10:02] our program here in Calabaris County, with a modest volume of businesses, comprised primarily
[2:10:07] of outdoor operations producing a high quality, sun-grown product.
[2:10:12] Other municipalities that have recently provided tax relief include City of San Francisco,
[2:10:16] with a one-year tax holiday for cannabis businesses, Sonoma with an extension on payments
[2:10:19] with no penalty. City of Merced with the reduction of their initial rates over a year ago,
[2:10:24] as well as several others currently considering reductions, including the counties of Stanislaus
[2:10:27] Denoma and Lake. Accordingly, we are before you today with a humble request that the
[2:10:33] Measure G cultivation taxes be reduced proportionally by 85 percent placing the applicable rate
[2:10:37] at 30 cents per square foot of canopy for outdoor. Although we would still be at double the rate of
[2:10:42] our closest regional market competitor, from a jurisdictional standpoint, this would provide the
[2:10:48] allocation of funds to replant and cover operating costs before the next season's harvest.
[2:10:53] In your consideration of this request, please keep in mind a successful compliance record
[2:10:57] of local permitted farmers in absence of any significant threat or negative effect of such
[2:11:01] operations on the community at large.
[2:11:04] To the extent that these offers have assisted in the alleviation of the stigma associated
[2:11:07] with the legal cannabis industry, and as the seeds of goodwill have been planted at the
[2:11:11] outset of this program, we are asking you now with the utmost respect, please allow us the
[2:11:18] at large in the form of jobs, continuing economic stimulus, and re-investment into this community
[2:11:23] can continue to blossom.
[2:11:24] Without I think if you're time and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.
[2:11:38] Any other public comment?
[2:11:47] Thank you, Ranking, Calvary, so as it ends against commercial marijuana.
[2:11:52] It's never enough.
[2:11:54] It's never enough.
[2:11:56] We all sat here through this process.
[2:11:59] That's who I am to come here to remind you all.
[2:12:02] Not to forget what the discussions were in this county over marijuana being grown in this county and what we were going to get for it.
[2:12:12] And we all knew that the market was going to fall.
[2:12:15] We all knew that it wasn't going to take away illegal growing.
[2:12:20] We all knew these things.
[2:12:21] These things were told to us as we were going through this process.
[2:12:25] But it was decided by a very small minority of board members that we needed this here.
[2:12:32] And we were going to have all this money in our general fund, okay?
[2:12:35] And that's money we're getting from taxing the cultivation.
[2:12:40] Originally taxing, the cultivation was going to be on the buds in the product.
[2:12:46] And that was complicated. I understood that.
[2:12:48] So you put out a new measure G so that the people could vote to do a canopy tax,
[2:12:53] Which we make it easy on the growers because now they just who knows what they get for acre of growth.
[2:13:00] Does anybody know what they make on an acre of growth?
[2:13:04] No, I don't think so.
[2:13:06] And what is this income look like?
[2:13:08] We're charging them $2 a square foot for an acre of growth.
[2:13:13] That comes out about $87,000 a year in canopy tax.
[2:13:17] That's it.
[2:13:18] That's all they have to pay.
[2:13:19] They don't have to pay us anything else.
[2:13:21] And so, you know, now it's, it's not enough, we have to reduce it down to 15 cents or 25 cents.
[2:13:30] We don't, you know, I know everybody's been complacent lately because marijuana has come here,
[2:13:37] but we just have a ban in this county and all the people thought that was permanent, but it wasn't.
[2:13:42] And so, one trust that question again, why did we ask our community, do they really want this marijuana industry here?
[2:13:50] If it does nothing for us in our general fund.
[2:13:55] So, you know, I hope you guys think this through because what you're doing is really outrageous.
[2:14:03] This was a whole purpose of bringing this industry here.
[2:14:06] And the product hasn't changed.
[2:14:09] It's still marijuana, and it's still a drug, and it's purposes to get you high.
[2:14:14] And yes, some people use it for medicine because maybe it knows their pain.
[2:14:18] And that's fine, they can use the marijuana.
[2:14:21] But Calvary's County is not responsible
[2:14:23] for tearing the gills of this industry.
[2:14:27] It's happening all over California.
[2:14:29] It was anticipated.
[2:14:31] Next year, big business gets involved in the marijuana.
[2:14:34] You think that's not going to affect all these growers.
[2:14:38] If you want to do a business,
[2:14:40] you have to make your own decisions about your business.
[2:14:43] Do you want to get in this business or dump?
[2:14:45] And if you do, you better pay what you're supposed to be paying and besides, I just wanted to bring up that
[2:14:52] there's 14 cultivators who are behind, I'm sorry, that means 53 are in compliance, which is kind of a nice thing. Thank you.
[2:15:08] Good morning. My name is Marie Wright. I have a business here in San Andreas and I live out in West Point in District 2.
[2:15:19] A lot of businesses have been struggling in the last couple of years. My business fortunately is not retail, but it still has been struggling because the citizens of this county have been struggling.
[2:15:33] and other businesses have been struggling and therefore it makes it harder for every business to continue when our clientele is generally having a hard time.
[2:15:44] I know that the county also has needs and the county needs tax revenue and other fee revenue in order to survive and provide services.
[2:15:54] However, it's a balancing act, and the cannabis business seems to be in a temporary difficulty.
[2:16:02] Hopefully, the wholesale prices will go up, and everything will work out for them.
[2:16:08] These things go up and down, as you all know, that are in business.
[2:16:12] But it's important to keep these businesses going, to provide jobs for people in this county,
[2:16:20] and weighing it against the interest of having tax revenue.
[2:16:24] I think having them going and cutting the taxes for a discrete amount of time temporarily,
[2:16:31] just to help the businesses stay, is better than to lose these businesses
[2:16:35] to other counties in the long term.
[2:16:38] So I'd just like to add my voice to request that you reduce the taxes
[2:16:44] for the cannabis industry temporarily.
[2:16:47] Thank you.
[2:16:58] Hi. Thanks for letting me get up and say something for our farms. I'm Mark Miller with
[2:17:05] the Blue Eagle Ranch. We have two farms in the county and we have room for expansion
[2:17:12] to more than double our size. We've built two buildings in the county and playing a lot of
[2:17:18] people. We have another building that we have planned to build, but that's on hold for now,
[2:17:24] even though we've put it into the, it's going to the county system in order to build it.
[2:17:32] temporarily we need some help.
[2:17:35] Our business is not sustainable unless we have some tax relief at this time.
[2:17:43] We're hopeful we have, we have big plans for the future, we want to grow and with our growth,
[2:17:50] means growth in taxes, we're current on our taxes, we want to stay current on our taxes.
[2:17:56] We want a partner in a positive way with our community.
[2:18:01] So I just appreciate it, it's that you're recognizing that we're having difficulties right
[2:18:05] now and that there is some willingness to help us out.
[2:18:09] Thank you.
[2:18:22] Okay, I'm here to speak in support of the 85% matching the 85% reduction with humble, but
[2:18:32] I'd like to read a couple of things here.
[2:18:35] I am currently aligned with the cultivators
[2:18:39] that we have 173,000 square feet under licenses.
[2:18:45] We pay about $30,000 a month in canopy checks,
[2:18:49] and that's a big number.
[2:18:52] Reduction would be a blessing for us.
[2:18:56] You all know that in the recent harvest season,
[2:18:58] we have experienced an unprecedented drop
[2:19:00] in the market price of one pound of cannabis flour from an average of 1,000 to approximately
[2:19:05] $400.
[2:19:07] So, there is some unintended consequences of not reducing the tax and a vote for yes that
[2:19:18] provides legal cannabis companies a reduction in holiday or other relief from exorbitant
[2:19:22] taxation.
[2:19:23] The vote in favor of and support for a consistent, sustainable and safer marketplace for cannabis
[2:19:28] consumers.
[2:19:29] of what we're against, providing temporary relief for cannabis companies and cannabis
[2:19:35] cultivators.
[2:19:36] It's an overwhelming, strong, yes vote in support of the continuation and strength of the
[2:19:41] illegal and unregulated traditional or black market for cannabis.
[2:19:46] So you're making that decision if you don't help us that could allow the black market
[2:19:51] traditional market to flourish without developing more the legal cannabis market.
[2:20:00] The leaders in the state of California, San Francisco down to zero, humble 85% reduction,
[2:20:09] Santa Barbara and I know the other counties, Mr. Wayland, pointed out, are considering items
[2:20:13] and attempting to help a growing cannabis marketplace,
[2:20:19] which will benefit the county in the long run.
[2:20:27] And I would definitely support a four-quarter reduction.
[2:20:32] So, don't be the supervisor that gives the illegal cannabis operators
[2:20:37] an additional opportunity to prosper
[2:20:39] at the detriment of the real market.
[2:20:44] If you do only support a 50% reduction, I can assure you that a way to help the cannabis
[2:20:51] cultivators and any of the cannabis companies would be to take every aspect of 17.95 and
[2:20:58] I believe there's only three or four of them that are stricter than the state rules and the cost
[2:21:04] of regulation to us would go down precipitously.
[2:21:06] And I don't believe that would be that it could very well be in the revenue neutral item for the county because there are several parts of 17.95 that are so that are stricter than the state rules.
[2:21:18] And that's an issue that might afford my considered direct staff to analyze and research.
[2:21:25] Thank you for your time.
[2:21:31] Mark Boulder, Ramak Farms, pleasure to see you guys, have been here in a while, it's all
[2:21:36] was fun to come down here and talk to Axis, talk politics, I want to address Ms. Renki's
[2:21:43] point. I think she's absolutely correct big business is coming, corporations that want to
[2:21:49] rub out the small farmer are absolutely barking at the door and I want you to look out
[2:21:54] here. Every single one of these farmers was here in 2016. You guys give yourself a pad on
[2:22:01] back. These are fighters. These are people that stuck through. It's a really hard time
[2:22:06] here. Really, really hard times. So what we're talking about here is
[2:22:16] we're not coming
[2:22:17] here with our hat in our hand begging you. We're just showing you the market reality.
[2:22:23] It's tough right now. And I mean, Jack knows it's better than anyone. Farmers are really
[2:22:27] good at complaining. Really, really good at complaining. It's not the weather. It's the
[2:22:32] past. It's not the past. It's the prices. Right now,
[2:22:37] it's the exercise tax. It's
[2:22:39] what the state's chargeness. It's what you guys are chargeness. We've got an unsustainable
[2:22:46] model and no other form of agriculture has to deal with a production tax before they've
[2:22:51] harvested their crop. Guys, we want to pay our part. We're very, very community-minded. None
[2:22:58] these people would be here right now if they wanted to cut and run.
[2:23:04] A temporary reprieve on taxes would be a lifeline to this industry.
[2:23:10] As other speakers said before me, I think four quarters is probably more viable because
[2:23:15] our harvest doesn't come into October, November.
[2:23:19] Prices don't really get situated till about December.
[2:23:22] Come February right now.
[2:23:23] We realize how screwed we are.
[2:23:25] So, you know, three quarters doesn't really get us to the point we need to.
[2:23:31] I send a memo out. I hope everyone had a chance to read it.
[2:23:35] I'm another business owner in the county.
[2:23:38] I don't have time to give the whole breakdown,
[2:23:41] but my farm is about four times the business or sales of my other business.
[2:23:46] And the county gets about 33 times the amount of profit.
[2:23:50] You've got some wiggle room.
[2:23:52] We've got a little bit of play in what you can charge these farms and still be very viable
[2:23:57] for the county.
[2:23:58] And we hope to be viable for decades to come, but right now, either the Golden Goose keeps
[2:24:04] laying a couple eggs or your cook it and we're done.
[2:24:09] Thank you very much.
[2:24:10] Appreciate your time.
[2:24:18] Hi, Alice Montgomery, and I want to thank Mark.
[2:24:23] He brought up some really good points, and again, as far I can only speak for myself, I don't
[2:24:30] want to see anybody fail. That's not why I'm here. You want people to survive, you want
[2:24:35] people to thrive. I need to dispute a couple of things, though, when they said, like it went
[2:24:41] from 1,000 down to $400, the price of cannabis. I think it's lower than that. I think it's
[2:24:49] little bit lower than $400 now.
[2:24:51] It's a huge, huge market drop.
[2:24:54] My fear is that this is not going to be temporary,
[2:24:56] like the urgency ordinance was temporary,
[2:24:58] only it just got worse.
[2:25:00] If the chair says it's about $800 every time they go to try
[2:25:04] eradicated illegal growth, if you mark you will see
[2:25:09] from the time we started the urgency ordinance
[2:25:12] and allowed commercial marijuana, we do have more illegal
[2:25:16] grows, frequency, severity, crime, and environmental damage.
[2:25:21] That's the fact.
[2:25:22] So if they say, oh, we're going to help eradicate the illegal
[2:25:25] grows, we already know that's it won't.
[2:25:30] There's a glut of marijuana in the market.
[2:25:32] There is not anything anybody can do about that.
[2:25:35] I feel bad because the state laws were not
[2:25:38] written for boutique growers.
[2:25:41] So it's almost like we're rearranging deck chairs
[2:25:43] on a sinking boat.
[2:25:44] You cannot do it, it's not, no matter how, if you cut it down to zero, the state laws are not for them.
[2:25:53] We knew that from the very beginning.
[2:25:55] I feel very, very bad about that.
[2:25:58] It's not okay, but it's the way it is.
[2:26:01] And that's why I'm not for trying for four quarters or trying to prop people up.
[2:26:04] Because then we must do it for everything else in the county.
[2:26:07] And again, we're defunding critical things.
[2:26:10] I really thank you for this opportunity and I thank you for your hard work and all your consideration
[2:26:16] and you that run this department.
[2:26:18] I thank you.
[2:26:25] Any other person?
[2:26:35] I'm Chair and fellow board members.
[2:26:37] My name is Terry Strange.
[2:26:39] I have been in the industry quite a while, including back in the CCWB director days.
[2:26:47] I want to thank you for the opportunity to not only talk but to bring this issue up.
[2:26:52] in Director Wayland. I want to thank you for a very informative presentation. As I'll try
[2:26:59] to make this very brief, there have been a few conversations that I'm here to support
[2:27:03] one of which is to look at extending this relief into the fourth quarter, which I think makes
[2:27:09] a lot of sense, especially if you look at the outdoor and a lot of the products that again
[2:27:14] aren't really taking a market until December in January that provides a great opportunity.
[2:27:23] I also want to say that in reiterate that even though this ordinance was written based on a $500
[2:27:31] per pound flower average, I think that number is significantly less than that.
[2:27:38] Especially if you look at outdoor prices that have been in the $250, which is really half of that.
[2:27:45] And at least on the farms that I'm affiliated with where it's more of an outdoor, some mixed light, but mostly outdoor product that is much lower than that 500 dollar number.
[2:27:58] So when you sort of significant relief for a outdoor and mixed light is significant.
[2:28:07] I did go through the process in quarter three of the late payment and was kind of surprised
[2:28:13] that not only is there a fee for late payment, but there's additional monthly fees that
[2:28:18] add to those fees that add to those fees, so as a result, I make sure and the quarter
[2:28:25] four that I got that paid off, dicking into family funds and other things to make a work
[2:28:30] because I did not want to pay up penalty and, you know, we're still working on that.
[2:28:39] I think that certainly it's a very complicated and diverse industry and we're learning
[2:28:48] pretty much a month by month on how to be a player in here.
[2:28:53] I think that one of the things that we really haven't talked about that is in the horizon
[2:28:57] and at some point in time are the federal taxation process
[2:29:01] that's going to take place.
[2:29:04] We don't know what that's going to look like.
[2:29:05] And so I'm encouraged to be here today and listen
[2:29:08] to all the conversation at least understanding
[2:29:12] that we may have to seek very creative ways
[2:29:16] of keeping those of us in business here
[2:29:21] because of the significant benefit
[2:29:24] that it plays out to the entire county.
[2:29:26] So, I appreciate your time, you know, and again, I'm encouraged by what we're looking
[2:29:34] at today and then also some of the very accurate and compelling statements that others
[2:29:41] have made up to this point.
[2:29:44] Thank you.
[2:29:52] Thank you.
[2:29:52] Any other public comment in the room before?
[2:29:59] Hello.
[2:30:00] I'm poor a kite from kite health farms district floor. I want to thank you guys for putting this on the agenda, taking a look at what we're struggling with in the industry.
[2:30:13] It's refreshing that our county is one of the counties taking a look at how to help our farmers. And I appreciate that.
[2:30:22] I want to use Gregory Wayland's number at $500 a pound and just kind of show you numbers
[2:30:30] wise what we're looking at as farmers right now.
[2:30:33] At $500 a pound, our tax rate on the state side is $160 that's 32% right off the back.
[2:30:43] You know, for someone like me, you know, I'm looking at around 22% of my revenue goes to county taxes.
[2:30:54] And that's not including what's going on on the federal level right now and what I have to pay there.
[2:30:59] My tax rate just for 2021 puts me over 70%.
[2:31:04] So, when I run my numbers, I go through my bookkeeper, get my taxes, I'm producing at $236 per
[2:31:14] pound.
[2:31:15] There's no money left.
[2:31:18] So, when my tax rate is over 70%, as a business owner, I really would appreciate any kind
[2:31:26] considerations when it comes to tax revenue breaks, helping us farmers succeed and thrive.
[2:31:36] So a temporary reprieve gives us a chance to keep employees going.
[2:31:42] This year I'm looking at having to fire all my employees and be an owner-operated business.
[2:31:48] I don't want to have to do that.
[2:31:50] I mean something like a tax reprieve from the county could keep my employees working
[2:31:55] this year. So when we're talking about slim, slim margins with the depressed market that's going
[2:32:02] on in the overproduction that's happening in Southern California right now, I really hope
[2:32:07] you take these things into consideration and I appreciate your time today and I appreciate
[2:32:12] listening to what we have to say. Thank you.
[2:32:25] Dr. Proponarandle Smith, Magic Show LLC. Yeah,
[2:32:29] I just wanted to reiterate a lot of what's been said already and I just want to caution
[2:32:35] everybody you're asking, please don't think that you have an industry here that's looking
[2:32:39] to give tourists in the mouth and demanding more and more.
[2:32:42] The reality is across this entire state, the industry is imploding.
[2:32:46] It's going under.
[2:32:48] It's not all due to county tax and regulations, the predominance of that is the excise tax.
[2:32:55] And one of the elephants in the room that may be some store owners would not like to hear
[2:32:59] me say.
[2:33:00] And that is the excise tax every time you hear a reference to that, they say it's
[2:33:05] 15% tax on the retail sale that consumer pays for it, that's not what's happening.
[2:33:11] Growers are paying the exercise tax in the form of lower wholesale prices.
[2:33:17] The growers are taking the every tax level that we have in this state.
[2:33:24] If we want to have a viable industry and have some funds to go after the illegal guys,
[2:33:29] We got to keep this thing going and I just urge you to consider maybe a little bit steeper
[2:33:36] right here, maybe matching humble, maybe that's not reasonable or not going to happen
[2:33:41] right now but that would be a good start.
[2:33:44] I would also ask the board at some point to use your authority and your influence to contact
[2:33:48] the governor and the legislature to do something about the exercise tax.
[2:33:53] These are, there's a lot of pieces of this puzzle, they all matter including the local one.
[2:33:58] So thank you for your consideration and let's see how things go and best wishes to all thank you.
[2:34:17] Thank you.
[2:34:19] So I have a quick comment on the dispensaries.
[2:34:24] Guys we're talking about three to five percent taxes and I'm okay with either three to five percent taxes.
[2:34:29] But I just wanted to give some type of clarification because you said you were a little bit confused of where that money was going.
[2:34:35] So where that money is going is, we have to be competitive with other dispensaries and the black market.
[2:34:42] So now we can't, if we're getting a product for $20, we can't make $20 anymore.
[2:34:48] Now we have to charge $5, $6, maybe, to be able to compete with the black market.
[2:34:55] That's what's going on right now, the dispensary.
[2:34:57] So, I mean, if there was any other type of question to people, I'd be more than happy to
[2:35:02] sit down with you guys and have the answer in, you guys have.
[2:35:14] Cool.
[2:35:15] Can you go to the gym, please?
[2:35:17] There is no online public record, I'll tell you a little bit of comments, sorry.
[2:35:23] Go and back to the room, any last type of comment before going back to the board,
[2:35:29] okay?
[2:35:30] I'll go back to the board,
[2:35:34] either any questions for staff, at this time.
[2:35:42] I'm sorry, and I don't want to contradict the court, but I am actually seeing my hands up on the public comment.
[2:35:51] Thank you.
[2:35:52] Is that it?
[2:35:55] Go ahead and make your comment now.
[2:36:00] Thank you.
[2:36:01] Thank you.
[2:36:04] Thank you.
[2:36:05] Thank you.
[2:36:06] Thank you.
[2:36:07] Thank you.
[2:36:10] Thank you.
[2:36:10] Thank you.
[2:36:11] Thank you.
[2:36:11] Thank you.
[2:36:12] I have said we're not asking for a handout, but a larger discussion will be odd in the future,
[2:36:20] and that is which one of which we move to the gross proceeds.
[2:36:23] As we all know, our flat taxes, progressive and it's competitive.
[2:36:31] And there's no other industry, but it stops at five points along its supply chain, other than cannabis.
[2:36:37] There's no other agricultural commodity, but it stops for the privilege to quiet.
[2:36:41] There's no other agricultural commodity, what is taxed before it is sold.
[2:36:48] There's a reason why ourselves taxed, our general sales tax is a percentage and not a flat tax.
[2:36:56] So, I appreciate that we're having this conversation.
[2:36:58] I think this is the next step in maintaining sustainable industry in this county.
[2:37:04] And the farm like mine that has six employees, like the 18 jobs in the county.
[2:37:10] It's not just my employees that are affected when businesses shut down, it's a volcanic
[2:37:17] that's affected.
[2:37:19] So I appreciate your time and looking at this, and I'm encouraged by the hot stress
[2:37:26] in the industry for a main system of open power, as long as we continue to talk about
[2:37:31] these discussions.
[2:37:32] Thanks.
[2:37:39] We're good with online now.
[2:37:40] There is no word with the online.
[2:37:42] Okay.
[2:37:43] Okay, okay, we'll go back to where we started to provide their name and leave.
[2:37:47] Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
[2:37:49] And you know, it was four years ago, I noted last night that a 2018 that we banned cannabis.
[2:37:57] So to the point that was made earlier, you guys have some serious fortitude, which makes you good farmers.
[2:38:02] Also makes you gamblers, but that's just part of farming, I suppose.
[2:38:07] We have 516 CBCB badges.
[2:38:11] That is a lot of jobs that actually would make you guys a second largest industry next to the county, next to government in this county.
[2:38:22] So, it's important to recognize what we're trying to preserve here is not just the 516 badges, but if we use the multiplier of three jobs for every one full-time employee, you know, it's 1500 jobs.
[2:38:36] That is the guys who are doing, and girls who are doing an electrical haul and dirt, making sandwiches, filling up gas tanks, all those things going to this.
[2:38:45] And we have to try to make sure that we keep these things going.
[2:38:49] It's a one of your crew mentioned to me and I thought it was very wise.
[2:38:54] As a farmer, you want to share your sheep every year.
[2:38:57] Because that's a recurring income for your farm.
[2:39:00] If you can only slaughter that sheep once.
[2:39:03] So, we have to decide as board and as a community whether we want to slaughter the sheep and
[2:39:09] have one big meal or we want to have to keep us going for many years ahead.
[2:39:15] So, I'm glad we're taking this up as a board.
[2:39:18] I look forward to discussion.
[2:39:20] I certainly support a Supervisor Colleways wanting to go for four quarters.
[2:39:26] I think that just makes sense.
[2:39:28] We have a lot of issues we need to figure out how we make this work.
[2:39:31] It is dynamic industry, we're dealing with the feds, we're dealing with the state.
[2:39:36] I don't know if our reduction in taxes is going to make the difference,
[2:39:42] but it certainly is important, and it certainly shows a commitment to keeping businesses
[2:39:47] and people employed in this county.
[2:39:50] So I look forward to debate, and the majority of the board is three.
[2:39:56] Since that seemed to be a question before.
[2:39:58] So we should all be supporting business and tax reduction.
[2:40:05] Thank you.
[2:40:07] Do you provide a stop at?
[2:40:10] Well, I really wish I could do all my taxes.
[2:40:16] I hate taxes, but the reality of life, the tune of over $30,000 for my income taxes
[2:40:24] here I have to pay pretty quick.
[2:40:29] But to get to the point, you know, debating it with people some weeks ago, you know, 50% seemed
[2:40:38] palatable, but then then humble stuck up to 85% and, you know, I debate this in my head.
[2:40:47] You know, I go one way or it's apples and oranges, humble has diversified their economy.
[2:40:58] Calvars hasn't so much.
[2:41:00] You know, the lion's share of our taxes coming in when it comes to general fund.
[2:41:05] There's no other single industry that has donated as much, even in just the last two years,
[2:41:12] to the county's general fund as cultivation,
[2:41:19] so humble has a harbor.
[2:41:23] They still have mills running, they're still doing logging far more than we are.
[2:41:30] And I could go down to the point of TOT making us look like a little people, making us look little.
[2:41:39] So, they have something to fall back on, but the other way to look at this when I argue
[2:41:46] with myself and my head about it is, you know, goes to Mr. Garmini's point about harvesting
[2:41:54] the sheep, you know, that sheep could produce for a few more years, possibly have more
[2:42:01] sheep for meals, and we can get our wool, or would at least slaughter it now and not having
[2:42:06] that's sustainable in the future. Very, very, very good one, Mr. Garmin, because that's, you know.
[2:42:16] It's a, so there's definitely two sides to it.
[2:42:23] I'm amenable to being forequarters.
[2:42:26] All in all, this market, we're charging before you're making your profit, you know.
[2:42:32] This is this is beyond a gross receipts tax that I just buy past but at the same time
[2:42:42] We don't do that to any other industry. It's it's just not a thing until cannabis
[2:42:51] So until you get those cells
[2:42:55] You that's passed
[2:42:57] December. I'm sure by the time you're processing if you're not
[2:43:01] either indoor or
[2:43:03] Mixed light so I mean by the time it gets processed
[2:43:07] And everything else, you're looking at, hopefully, a January cell, and we're going through four quarters.
[2:43:14] So I'm amenable to extending it for the year, and then revisiting it later to see where we're at.
[2:43:25] We're having a hard time landing as the percentage.
[2:43:29] I personally can't go 85%.
[2:43:31] I think we just saved ourselves some,
[2:43:35] with the exercise tax, I'm not doing that.
[2:43:38] So there's room to debate.
[2:43:40] So I'll leave it at that for now,
[2:43:43] and I'll give further input later.
[2:43:49] Any other board comment?
[2:43:52] Mm-hmm.
[2:43:52] Good, thank you.
[2:43:54] All right,
[2:43:59] I support 75% reduction.
[2:44:02] I support four quarters.
[2:44:05] Now, how did I come to that?
[2:44:07] First of all, as was mentioned earlier, about property tax under the Revenue and Taxation
[2:44:15] Code, your property taxes, my property taxes, maybe many of you in here will reduce substantially
[2:44:23] when the recession hit.
[2:44:26] Now, under the Revenue and Taxation Code, what's happened to this woman over here, happened
[2:44:33] to me and probably happen to all of you are property taxes go back up to where they should
[2:44:41] have been over-based value. So every property owner in Calvary's County had their property
[2:44:48] who were impacted by the recession had their property taxes reduced. What I'm saying is
[2:44:57] Let's reduce these for this group.
[2:45:00] For the four quarters, and then you can revisit it in January. Do you like the word, Dave?
[2:45:18] cannabis industry is not allowed to apply for COVID relief funds.
[2:45:26] I think when it was cognizant, it was cognizant of this board,
[2:45:34] or when we put together Measure G, the supervisor Garamente,
[2:45:40] said the dynamics of the industry, it was a fledging industry.
[2:45:44] we didn't know what was happening, and so we allowed the high-low percentage tax rate.
[2:45:52] So it's not as if we're reducing the tax rate outside of measure G. It's what's allowed.
[2:45:59] Ag products do not pay a tax on their crop. For example, I don't pay a tax on my grapes.
[2:46:07] You pay the tax when you buy a bottle of wine.
[2:46:13] So, in cannabis's case, you pay the tax as the kelp as the cannabis grower
[2:46:21] and whoever buys it, retail also pays the tax.
[2:46:26] You're also paying, if I understand, the carbon offset tax.
[2:46:30] I don't know about their ag products in this county that pay a carbon offset tax.
[2:46:36] And you also pay an annual fee just to operate.
[2:46:42] You are not considered an ag product by Calaberas, but you are considered an ag product
[2:46:48] by the State of California.
[2:46:51] Market conditions have changed.
[2:46:53] As I said earlier, what this board did for the retail industry, when things were really bad
[2:47:01] I'm proud of what this board did and how rapidly we responded to the needs of our business community.
[2:47:12] I think we need to do the same here.
[2:47:16] Under the revenue and taxation code, the county has five years to collect my taxes before they come after my property.
[2:47:25] on here,
[2:47:30] the DCC, Mr. Wailon, can pull your permit if you missed two payments.
[2:47:38] So I just think, is this an industry that we as a county are going to commit to supporting
[2:47:47] as we go through these maturity stages of the industry or we just can't compare it to other ad crops that have been here.
[2:48:02] I mean, I compared it to grapes or to almonds, you could do the same thing.
[2:48:09] But those are not fludging new industries.
[2:48:12] So I think if we're going to do something, let's fight the bullet, let's do it and let you review it in January.
[2:48:25] So I'm asking for a 75% reduction and four quarters on this modification to the ordinance.
[2:48:38] And I can give you more reasons that I'll hold off.
[2:48:44] They take over now.
[2:48:46] Yeah, I have a couple of questions for Greg.
[2:48:52] Greg, how many promise are in process right now?
[2:48:58] We have about 53 that are initially approved.
[2:49:01] And I don't have the numbers in front of you right now that are in a blind status.
[2:49:08] So the reflection is it's around 165.
[2:49:13] So, when you say conditionally approved, then they will more likely start growing in this coming growing in season.
[2:49:21] We're nearly, I would say yes.
[2:49:23] This year, the pace has been a little slower than 2021 for them just showing, you know,
[2:49:30] in terms of what they're submitting and getting going.
[2:49:33] So, there are more conditional approvals, but the pace is substantially slower this year so far.
[2:49:41] I can't really tell you that they aren't going to get permitted this year.
[2:49:48] And it just passes on a fourth-less vote.
[2:49:52] You mentioned that there are a number of the permitties or growers that are in a rears.
[2:50:01] And like 17 of them are substantial.
[2:50:05] For 13, that are two quarters pass, that's right, that's four, that are three quarters pass,
[2:50:11] and 14, that are one quarters pass.
[2:50:15] So how does this pass by this board today?
[2:50:19] How does it affect those that are interrearers?
[2:50:24] Are they going to pay at the current rate to be brought up to date?
[2:50:29] Or they're still going to be held at the rears at the time they went into a rear,
[2:50:32] with that rate. This will not change their status, because this applies to a January 1st
[2:50:40] through whichever game if any of the more cheeses. So those are rearranges, occurred in
[2:50:46] 2020 for as a removal of 2021 vaccinations. So that's not going to happen. That was rearranges.
[2:50:52] A rearzes.
[2:50:54] A rearzes.
[2:50:56] Okay, so it's not going to affect the regardless there in a rearves with that amount of money.
[2:51:01] And if it's some of them, or it's far back, it's three quarters, that's a substantial amount.
[2:51:09] That's a substantial amount.
[2:51:12] And it's brought up and it's true about the penalties that are added on top of that as they go along.
[2:51:19] So the penalties could add up to substantially more than the original taxes that they...
[2:51:25] It would take a long time for that to happen, because the quarters are three months,
[2:51:29] in the penalties 10%, so it would take 30 months, I think, for that to happen, but then I say
[2:51:38] there's not a direct impact because of the timing, but there is an indirect impact because
[2:51:43] that they're able to keep from going in additional quarter interirages, then they're not getting
[2:51:49] into three quarters, which is really significant.
[2:51:54] Okay, now I wasn't going to do a lot of comment on this because I don't think it's going to change
[2:52:01] anybody's vote on what's going forward but I was in my own business for 30 years and I went through a
[2:52:10] lodge especially when I crashed when the mark 2008 2009 2000 there was no jobs. We want two
[2:52:18] on basically having nothing and yet I had to pay everything. I still had to pay the carbon
[2:52:24] offset tax because we had from the previous year used paint and all the inspections that we
[2:52:32] had to do and everything that cost to to run that particular industry and that business was
[2:52:38] still there including corporation taxes and everything else so I went to a period with no
[2:52:44] And I think if you look at any industry out there, what it is, whether it's the send us tree, or any other industry.
[2:52:51] The market goes up and down, goes up and down throughout.
[2:52:55] You've got to be able as a business owner.
[2:52:57] You have to be able to survive.
[2:52:59] You have to look forward when things are good and put money away from when times are bad.
[2:53:04] So you can survive if you're going to.
[2:53:06] A lot of times in 2008, 2009, a lot of the skill industry that I was in,
[2:53:13] a lot of those businesses went under, they couldn't, they couldn't, they were so heavily
[2:53:17] in debt and they just couldn't survive because they're inversely no jobs and what jobs
[2:53:22] were available to bid on, what so dirt achieved, that the guy's been nothing, just to have
[2:53:32] a job. So, you know, it's not conductive to just this business, although it's a new business
[2:53:40] So I certainly understand that, and I commend the people that have
[2:53:44] withstood all the things that have gone down in this industry,
[2:53:47] and included in this county, as Jack brought up.
[2:53:51] So, but I, again, didn't have any relief.
[2:53:55] I, there was no relief that I could find the stand business.
[2:53:58] We had to just endure it, and make sure when we went along
[2:54:02] in the good times that money was coming in, that we were,
[2:54:06] put in a way, knowing that the market goes, the way it goes.
[2:54:12] And this time next year, very could be very well-possible
[2:54:15] that the industry is back going back and up.
[2:54:20] So that's what I am to say.
[2:54:27] Superbated, Caroi.
[2:54:29] Our cannabis cultivators allowed to have right-offs
[2:54:33] like a steel company is for IRS, for federal purposes.
[2:54:38] I don't know, we asked for that, but I don't think so, but I don't think so.
[2:54:46] We never write up.
[2:54:50] Well, when I had my own business for losses, you can take losses on your taxes.
[2:54:58] So, you know, I understand what you're saying, supervisor.
[2:55:02] I'm just saying this is not an industry that has the tax advantages that you, not that they have advantages.
[2:55:11] I was went through by times two, but not I'm sure like you did, but it's not an industry that has the traditional tax advantages that they can do right off like we can.
[2:55:26] I mean, they can't even go to the normal banking system that we can.
[2:55:33] I still have to pay all the fees and everything else that I have to pay.
[2:55:37] You understand that business.
[2:55:39] Everything has to be paid and current.
[2:55:50] Any other supervisor in the comment?
[2:55:55] I guess I'm the only one that has spoken yet.
[2:55:58] So, I'm
[2:56:03] open for further dialogue, however, I will be honest, it's been a whole one to follow.
[2:56:10] I've spoken about my head around how you can tack something that doesn't exist.
[2:56:16] All in all, most of that tattoo, they're based off of something.
[2:56:19] And at the local level, allowing a taxation that just, I don't know, how do you, on growth
[2:56:28] that didn't even exist till after the fact?
[2:56:33] But that nighter here and all that, that is where the people of this county have supported
[2:56:37] to go through with that, you know, government supposed to make it easier for businesses.
[2:56:44] The state had done no one any favors, not only the cultivators, but also local districts
[2:56:50] and put in a different court for us to control the industry within our own areas.
[2:57:00] I concur with a lot of the points that have elevated highway, he's made, I think that there's
[2:57:10] some leeway of understanding how to support businesses,
[2:57:14] and there's an officer of this industry,
[2:57:17] but what this industry has given to the overall global
[2:57:22] picture of this county's economic.
[2:57:26] It's simple as an accuracy value being bar
[2:57:29] at the local grocery store, that's self-tax that's
[2:57:33] generating, because we have individuals having done.
[2:57:38] If we meet Khaber, I supervise a game and he said slaughter the sheep, we're not going to see that in the long run.
[2:57:50] And the purpose of it was knowing that this industry had been here for a long long time and it's to make it survived legally in this county and bring it to equal of other businesses for them to survive.
[2:58:07] It sounds like the board has an appetite to discuss, are there numbers other than the 50%.
[2:58:15] At this time, I do agree with the four quarters. I don't seem being in it back.
[2:58:23] At the recommended by staff, I think the four quarters is something that should be considered.
[2:58:30] I support the president, I'm going to leave it up to my favorite board member for further discussion on what to build forward for this TV page stopping.
[2:58:43] Oh, now I'm chair, just because I try my life doesn't mean you're done. So if you have more to say, I'm listening.
[2:58:50] I'm up there.
[2:58:57] I'm morning, Maria.
[2:59:04] As I said before, I'm having a hard time with 85%, you know, 50% was palatable to me.
[2:59:14] I think we gave ourselves some more room to work with with what we just did with the
[2:59:19] size tax,
[2:59:22] I'm not able to get to 75%, but I do understand the economics. I do think that Mr.
[2:59:34] Tauke finally does have good points, but at the same time, you know, it was the state that
[2:59:41] didn't help you out then, and they aren't helping us out now, and we didn't. The question
[2:59:46] earlier was asked why don't we petition the governor or the state? We did in December. We sent
[2:59:54] it to them, you know, and we're not the only ones by far and...
[3:00:00] On the state, and there's counties across the state making changes hoping that the state sees what we're doing in full suit, and but, you know, here's my wish hand. I won't say the rest.
[3:00:21] I
[3:00:24] can get to 60% right now, but I'm open to the debate.
[3:00:31] If someone else says they're okay with 60, I'll be willing to make a motion, but I'm still open to the debate.
[3:00:51] Yeah,
[3:01:04] I'm not going to get in the middle of being more.
[3:01:07] I will let you two armors on and hide, but I've got to pass this.
[3:01:11] I just keep thinking, if we were back in the early 80s and we had a way that we thought maybe it could
[3:01:17] work, maybe if we could have saved the cement plant industry, I don't want to be looking
[3:01:23] back on my shoulder and think we didn't do everything we could to keep businesses going
[3:01:27] here.
[3:01:29] So, I will, I will, whichever two numbers you two come up with, some are between, we'll
[3:01:34] be 60, 65, but we're right now, I will support you guys.
[3:01:57] So we've got two numbers, we've got one number, one number,
[3:02:07] okay, so we've got one number,
[3:02:13] and you want anything to know about it or you can.
[3:02:26] I'll make a motion,
[3:02:31] well I mean make sure I'm on the right, I don't mind or can.
[3:02:34] To introduce and weigh full rating of an uncodified ordinance, reducing the cannabis
[3:02:41] cultivation rates specified in Section.356.0, phi 0, b1, dash rate on a temporary basis
[3:02:52] as authorized by Section 3.56.070 in the sum of 60% with the amendment to all four quarters
[3:03:11] of this year, which an authorizes summary publication, which requires a firm enough
[3:03:25] I'm going to do a modified motion on the table.
[3:03:31] One motion is already on the table.
[3:03:34] If there's a second and mine fells and then you get a modified.
[3:03:39] Is it a second?
[3:03:45] No, it's a second.
[3:03:47] I'll second it.
[3:03:49] I'm going to do a modified motion.
[3:03:55] I'm sorry.
[3:03:56] We've had a motion and a second on the table and I want to modify the motion, which takes for us to get over the motion.
[3:04:04] Okay.
[3:04:06] I want the same.
[3:04:08] I'm looking at it.
[3:04:09] Miss Edwards with the smile on our face.
[3:04:11] Good day.
[3:04:12] You're all going to make me fall out of the ball because you just said it.
[3:04:16] Give me just one second.
[3:04:22] If you don't mind, I just like to double check one thing.
[3:04:25] That would be pretty,
[3:04:28] pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty.
[3:04:42] Similarly, in general, we would have a vote on the motion that is in front of the board,
[3:04:48] and then a substitute motion, an amended substitute motion, called being certain in its place.
[3:04:57] That would be just,
[3:05:06] so the motion may be amended prior to a vote, but only with the consent of the moving and seconding members.
[3:05:13] So, as supervisor Cowboy can propose an amendment, but supervisor stopper and commend you
[3:05:21] with about to increase an item and then
[3:05:27] propose a little bit of Cowboy.
[3:05:32] I wish to follow the same introduction and wave reading of the ordinance as supervisors stopper
[3:05:41] and amending the 60% to 64% and of course the four quarters.
[3:06:00] I think it would be whether, so the most of it is on the table is supervisor stoppers.
[3:06:08] Supervisor Colle has suggested an amendment.
[3:06:11] So it's up to supervisor stoppers and I'm going to indicate whether they are amenable to the amendment.
[3:06:22] I see I see two passers as she explained or one of the people can withdraw their motion or second.
[3:06:29] There's also that.
[3:06:31] That said, my motion stands as said, I hear what you have to say and I'll justify the reason on saying this.
[3:06:39] I was a hard-line 50%.
[3:06:44] But I made a little bit of room for me to work with.
[3:06:49] I understand the situation in the growers.
[3:06:52] That's why I'm in favor of bringing this forward
[3:06:54] and doing the 50%, but I'm not withdrawing my 60% motion.
[3:07:04] So it lies with Mr. Garmindi.
[3:07:11] We all know that takes four of us to get this stuff.
[3:07:15] And so you're just the question, I'm feeling a kid in the middle here.
[3:07:21] We need to get before we need to get before votes.
[3:07:26] So I continue, if you're a hard line of 60, then I continue to support that.
[3:07:39] I'm sorry, supervisors stop up back down the four points, but I'll go with 60.
[3:07:47] So we have a motion in a second and then a proposed amendment which was rejected by the party making the motion.
[3:07:59] So the motion in second, as originally proposed, I know in third and a point.
[3:08:07] We'll call for both.
[3:08:09] All in favour?
[3:08:11] Aye.
[3:08:11] Aye.
[3:08:12] Are those opposed?
[3:08:14] No.
[3:08:15] Four one.
[3:08:23] The entire motion in the vote.
[3:08:31] did I read it clearly in the suburbs?
[3:08:35] Yes, I believe that if I understand it, the motion is to approve item as a
[3:08:41] genderized, but with the temporary reduction of the
[3:08:46] cultivation tax rate reduction in 60% from the currently and for that
[3:08:52] reduction to be for the four quarters of this calendar year.
[3:08:57] Now, which point it expires the reduction expires?
[3:09:02] Yes.
[3:09:03] And you got the vote to miss that vote.
[3:09:08] Thank you.
[3:09:12] We were now move on to the next agenda.
[3:09:14] I see that it's getting time and everyone probably getting hungry.
[3:09:17] I'll just say that one second.
[3:09:19] We'll do this quietly.
[3:09:21] Sorry.
[3:09:21] Killerification again.
[3:09:23] So this comes back March 22nd to be approved.
[3:09:27] Cool.
[3:09:27] This is Jessica.
[3:09:28] Just to move it, yes, and this is just to move it to the next meeting.
[3:09:35] Okay, without when we move on to Supervisory announcement, I will start to my left with Supervisory.
[3:09:44] And I, I'm having a meeting with the ball.
[3:09:48] We'll see the community that I took as part of the redistricting this Saturday.
[3:09:59] And that's all.
[3:10:05] Thank you, and thanks for just hanging with us very first this cleanly.
[3:10:12] There's a meeting at tonight at Railroad Flight Eleanor, former site at the Railroad
[3:10:17] Flight Elementary School for community come together and talk about the community center that we're building
[3:10:23] there as county and things that they want to see happening in there.
[3:10:27] So I see a lot of due to two people and spread the word when you go back up the hill.
[3:10:31] We'd love to have everybody six o'clock and Chef will be there as well as Kenny Rappes. Thank you
[3:10:38] both. Thank you, Madam Chair. We have
[3:10:46] Supervisor fallen door for myself to have a special meeting with Cog tomorrow evening at 5.30 here
[3:10:53] Sure if everybody knows that Amber Cog
[3:10:57] Executive Officer Cog has turned into a resignation and that will be on March 4th
[3:11:04] So, part of the agenda would be reviewing and possibly appointing a new director.
[3:11:12] Also, I have a mountain valley MS meeting to discuss, again, continue to discussions
[3:11:24] of Stan's sauce County pooling out of Mount Valley MSA, and that's that.
[3:11:40] Thank you. I have nothing to report, but however, we do need to move over to the close and
[3:11:46] capture something we did not do this morning, which is report out of the last close session from last week.
[3:11:53] For the close session of February 8th, 2022, I have number 1 for students government code section 54957.6, conference with county definitely
[3:12:02] labor negotiators, duty hotkins, and shade Johnson regarding the following employee organizations, Calvary's and Union Calvary's supervisor's unit.
[3:12:10] No reportable action taken.
[3:12:12] Number 2 for students government code section 546571, public employment, title planning director, there is no reportable action taken.
[3:12:20] Item 2, pursuant to government co-section 54956.91, conference of legal counsel regarding this
[3:12:26] in litigation career at all versus Calibur's county, Calibur's county career court case
[3:12:31] number, 1, 8, CV, 434, 6, 0, there is no recordable action taken, item 4 pursuant
[3:12:38] to government co-section 54956.9, D, 2, conference of legal counsel regarding inticipate
[3:12:44] education one case significant exposure to litigation no reportable action taken and item
[3:12:51] five pursuits government code section five four six five seven v one number one public employees
[3:12:56] former evaluation titles planning director chief building official county librarian environmental management
[3:13:02] administrator public workstractor county council county administrative officer
[3:13:06] helping the services agency director there is no reportable action taken
[3:13:12] Thank you and thank you and with that everyone have a good day.