1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,520 Test, test. Good evening, everyone. Sorry, we're having difficulties with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,000 our streaming services tonight. So, we're going to go 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,320 ahead and record. Confirm we are recording. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:20,440 All right. Welcome, everyone. Tonight's August 3rd, 2026 City Council workshop 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:24,160 starting at 5:10, almost 5:11 p.m. Um we're just short one counselor, but 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,960 since this is a workshop, um we're going to go ahead and start with a 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,040 report on a possible urban renewal area for the 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Caldwell Executive Airport. Our economic development staff, who's here tonight, 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,000 will be discussing the concept and and then afterward there's going to be 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,880 time for council to ask questions. With that, thank you 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:45,280 for everyone for being here tonight. And welcome, economic development. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,440 » Good evening, mayor, council members. My name is Ophelia Morales. I'm the 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:01,040 assistant economic development director for the city of Caldwell, as well as 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,880 executive director for urban renewal. And my team today is Dan Torres, our 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:10,280 economic development director, Mark Hilty, our urban renewal attorney, Scott 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Swanson, our executive director of the airport, Ryan Kida, our economic 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:19,040 development specialist, and I do have a few members of our urban renewal board 18 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:24,160 here as well. Um so, thank you so much for your time 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:30,720 this evening. Um again, we're bringing to you a possible concept of a hopefully 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:35,320 future urban renewal district for the airport area. So, the airport should be 21 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:39,280 viewed as a catalyst for economic development rather than simply 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,680 transportation facility. Businesses rely on efficient air access to move people, 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,520 goods, and services, making the airport an important piece of the community's 24 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,320 economic infrastructure. Investing in airport improvements enhances the 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:55,120 region's competitiveness, attracts new business, supports existing employers, 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:59,280 and creates opportunities for future commercial and industrial development. 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Urban renewal can play a strategic role by helping finance the infrastructure 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:07,080 improvements that encourages investment in and around the airport. However, it 29 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:11,600 should be used selectively and in coordination with other funding source. 30 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:15,600 By leveraging urban renewal alongside federal and state grants, airport 31 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,600 revenues, and other financing tools, the community can maximize investment while 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,000 preserving flexibility for future projects. The goal is not to simply 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,800 improve the airport, but use the airport as an engine for broader economic 34 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,880 strategic infrastructure investments that can stimulate business expansion, 35 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,920 increase employment opportunities for our community, strengthen the local tax 36 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:41,720 base, and position the community as a regional hub for commerce, aviation, and 37 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:45,680 industry. And I do have a PowerPoint there, and 38 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:52,160 our economic development director will be joining me here at the podium 39 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,760 to cover the the financial component of an urban renewal district. 40 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:04,239 So a little bit about how tax increment 41 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,360 finance works through an urban renewal district, the district's tax value is 42 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,720 fixed at the formation. Every existing taxing district keeps collecting on that 43 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,760 base, and so where urban renewal isn't new to the 44 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:21,200 city, we've had a district, a 1998 district that was a fairly large 45 00:03:19,239 --> 00:03:24,640 district that sunsetted a few years ago. So here at the city, we're a little 46 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:29,800 familiar of how that works where we capture that increment and utilize that 47 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:32,640 increment only for that specific district. 48 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,160 And then again here, the airport is a strategic asset for the city, like I've 49 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:41,560 mentioned before. In many other places, we've looked at 50 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:46,560 airports that do have an airport urban renewal 51 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,200 district. Hailey, Pocatello being some of those examples on how they leverage 52 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:54,920 their airport to again bring that investment into their community. 53 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:02,080 And so, why now? Um again, we're supporting the airport. Again, we want 54 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:06,440 to make sure that it is one of the greatest assets that we have here in the 55 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:11,720 city that can help us again bring in that much-needed tax base that we need 56 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:17,200 and some of those businesses that um will help support our community. 57 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:22,560 And so, we are again looking to capture that tax increment finance again to help 58 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:29,280 in in in that area. Now, I will make a note that I did let our urban renewal 59 00:04:24,919 --> 00:04:33,000 board know that we at one point had um asked if we can create this district by 60 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:37,640 the end of the year. There was a catalyst project it there in that area 61 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:42,840 that we were hoping to cap capture some of that increment finance to help uh 62 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:46,680 this district get a head start. Um we did meet with the assessor last week, 63 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:51,760 the King County Assessor, and he did let us know that that project is actually on 64 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:55,800 the tax roll already. So, what we're asking for today here is just your 65 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,640 thumbs up, thumbs down if we are moving the right direction so that we can 66 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:03,840 continue having that conversation in regards to this specific district. And 67 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:09,680 so, here's our proposed district boundary. It does in again include some 68 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:13,800 of that county area. Um and again, we will be having conversations with our 69 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,919 stakeholders. Again, this is just early dialogue with you all to see if there's 70 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,760 any interest, if we should move forward or not. 71 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:28,560 And then, here shows you again that area um in that area of course has been 72 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,480 planned through our comprehensive map here. You can see where our employment 73 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:37,560 center is. There's a a huge employment center within that those boundaries as 74 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:42,800 well as mixed-use center. So, kind of give you that. And then, now I'll have 75 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:47,120 our economic development director join me to talk a little bit about the 76 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,120 project list. 77 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:56,640 » Good afternoon. Um so, a little background uh 78 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,360 the the fact that Caldwell has an airport is a phenomenal asset and we 79 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:02,720 really the opinion is that we should be taking 80 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:07,240 advantage of that. Um this initial project list um comes from the airport 81 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:13,880 capital improvement plan that was adopted um I want to say in 2020 2021. 82 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Um what uh Scott and I did is we looked at projects within that 83 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,720 uh uh master plan that scored a 70 or above and front-loaded this project. Um 84 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:25,480 we imagine that this list will probably change over time 85 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,720 um as we meet with the different stakeholders, um as we look at um 86 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:35,040 items that would have a catalytic economic uh development um 87 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:40,880 um Is that the correct word? Um impact uh 88 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:44,960 or a life safety. The other thing that we brought on this uh project list was 89 00:06:42,919 --> 00:06:49,200 we looked at the transportation master plan. I think it's called the Caldwell 90 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Area Transportation System Plan. Um and looked at roadway improvements within um 91 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:58,280 the proposed boundaries. We included that in this list. We also 92 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,520 um plan on meeting with other stakeholders um both within the city and 93 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:07,160 outside on the public sector uh to refine this list uh further, but the 94 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:12,600 initial list is about a hundred and ten million dollars worth of projects. The 95 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:17,200 idea uh of this uh district is to advance these where possible uh to bring 96 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:22,520 an additional funding source to bring some of these to fruition faster. As an 97 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:27,480 example for FAA projects at the airport, uh the FAA generally pays 90% of the 98 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:32,240 cost of these um improvements. Uh the 10% is a split between the city and 99 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:36,760 other agencies usually that the state, um but you have to get on a list for 100 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,880 that. And again, in order to help the airport become an economic catalyst, we 101 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,560 want to see if we can advance these where were 102 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:50,080 So, this one. Um some initial um estimations uh 103 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:54,200 looking at the assessed value within the uh the proposed boundary is that there's 104 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:58,600 a base um assess uh assessed value of about $604 million. Um 105 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:04,760 um using kind of a straight-line uh estimation where we look at the increase 106 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:07,160 of uh appreciated values as well as the um 107 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:14,320 uh an increase in levy rate over that time, that um we project that there'll 108 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:18,440 be $157 million in tax revenue um generated within this district. However, 109 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:23,160 one of the things that we're here before you today is to uh help fund a 110 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:28,040 feasibility study, which will dial in um these projections, not just the project 111 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:31,840 list, but also um the tax increment that would be generated within this district. 112 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:39,919 Um I need this one, too. Some key key assumptions here are that growth will 113 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,800 occur in this area. Again, um this is in line with what we believe uh to be in 114 00:08:41,719 --> 00:08:47,680 the comprehensive plan. Um as I feel I mentioned, they are identified as 115 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,839 employment centers um and kind of a commercial corridor along 116 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Ustick. Um so, we believe that we've done our land use uh planning correctly. 117 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Um we anticipate growth to happen in here. Uh what we're looking for is a 118 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:05,960 mechanism to help offset um any potential uh costs, extraordinary costs, 119 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:10,080 uh to development and to have advanced um identified projects and to address 120 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:14,000 any life safety issues that we find in this area. 121 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Um some risks that always occur are always potential um in setting up a 122 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,640 urban renewal district is slower growth that doesn't happen uh as fast as we 123 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,360 want, um the variabilities of market interest 124 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:29,800 rates, um cost escalations. Um again, going 125 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:33,080 back to that uh capital project list, it was um 126 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:39,520 3 or 4 years old already, and as we've seen the cost of projects rise, um those 127 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:43,320 are always subject uh, to change. Um, and then we also want this to be, uh, a 128 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,040 living plan. So, we'll we'll start it with identified projects, um, but we 129 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,920 will the order that they're listed is not 130 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:55,600 necessarily the order that will happen. They'll happen as development occurs 131 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,600 and, uh, the need is presented. 132 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,880 » Okay, so again, um, like I mentioned earlier before, the purpose of the 133 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:08,360 district is a greater airport area strategy. So, it's not just specific for 134 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:13,640 the airport, but it's specific more to the area that will be identified by, 135 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:18,000 again, working with our, um, many stakeholders in the area. So, it 136 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:23,280 benefits the entire community, not just the airport. 137 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:27,880 And so, again, here what we want to use is we want to use urban renewal as a 138 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:32,200 tool. Um, again, we'll continue to look at other state of state incentives, 139 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,600 community improvement districts, revenue bonds, foreign trade zone, etc. Just 140 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:41,560 Again, just making sure that you're all aware that this is a tool that can help 141 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,960 that area and many other areas in Caldwell. 142 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:51,320 And then again, here going back to that coordinated approach of development, 143 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:57,800 um, we will look at an airport area special area plan. Again, just to kind 144 00:10:54,200 --> 00:11:02,440 of help guide the, um, the infrastructure to help guide what that 145 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:06,680 area would look like in the future. And here again, who are the the 146 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:11,040 stakeholders? City Council, city staff, airport board, URA. And again, like I 147 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:15,640 mentioned, I have presented this to our urban renewal board. I've also presented 148 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:18,960 this to our airport board to kind of give them, um, 149 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:24,920 let them know what we're thinking in terms of, uh, utilizing this tool. 150 00:11:22,839 --> 00:11:30,560 And then, what are the next steps? So, we'll fund a feasibility study, 151 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:34,760 um, and the airport does have a retainer with a JUB, 152 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:42,120 um, at the moment. So, we're looking at potentially working with a JUB or others 153 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:46,400 to do that feasibility study. And then, number three is really the district 154 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:50,280 adoption process, what that looks like. Again, we're here just to kind of get 155 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:54,560 your feedback if this is something that you want to move forward or not. Then, 156 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:59,080 we if you if there's something that you do want to move forward, then we'll go 157 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:04,560 back to our urban renewal board for again that ask. And then, we can start 158 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:09,280 the process of creating this district. 159 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:13,840 And with that, I will stand for any questions that you may have. 160 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,640 » Thank you, Evilyn and Dan. We really appreciate the work you guys put into 161 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:21,080 this. And as we know, the airport has a lot of things in 162 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,680 motion right now. So, this could be an important tool that we 163 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,160 could utilize, but ultimately it's up to the council 164 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,680 or urban renewal agency. And with that, council, do you have questions? 165 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:34,440 Councilman Denver. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Can you go back to 166 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:38,160 a couple slides? Let's start with the one that is 167 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,839 anticipated benefits. It says a bunch. Okay. 168 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Right there. So, you have on here the benefits as the infrastructure, tax 169 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:50,480 base, jobs. I I understand those those benefits. But 170 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:55,880 then, if you scroll back to your capital improvements list, 171 00:12:52,800 --> 00:13:05,120 right there. So, I don't see anything on here for infrastructure, road, water, 172 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:08,160 um any sort of a public utility. Uh would those necessarily be included 173 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,240 in this list? >> We could include those in the list as 174 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:18,680 we're working with our stakeholders. Um here, we will be able to identify what 175 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:23,040 of what those projects look like and what projects could potentially benefit 176 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:29,000 this area. So, uh this again was taken from the airport um 177 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:32,560 area of the airport list of projects as well as like uh 178 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Dan mentioned the the transportation uh list as well. So, 179 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,880 that's where this was taken from. But, yes, we could include others as we're 180 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,560 having those conversations with those stakeholders within that area. 181 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:48,480 » Sure, and I understand urban renewal is, you know, one of your one of your 182 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:52,400 stakeholders in this and they're going to take whatever, you know, approach to 183 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:58,400 this that they take to it. But, when we talk about those items that would 184 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:03,120 be considered, you know, catalyst for development, um 185 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:08,040 are all of these items on this list potential catalyst for development or 186 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,720 are these more maintenance issues for the airport? 187 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,480 » Uh no, they're they're not. And so, I think 188 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Dan mentioned that they had taken that scoring from this list to see which rise 189 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:25,560 above those projects that would impact the total total area, not just the 190 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,720 airport specifically. >> Okay. 191 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:32,480 » Do you do you mind if if I add to that? I think it's a good question. It's not 192 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:36,160 an exhausted exhaustive list. Um we still have to look at parks needs and 193 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:42,360 other needs. The thought here was to front-load it with a clearly ident- 194 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:47,400 itemized uh known list of projects um to help give uh the agency um kind of some 195 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:51,520 guide posts of of known projects. Uh the other piece of the question uh I 196 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:55,120 think was what what are catalytic. Um and so, we do want to go through that 197 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,520 list. Again, the initial the initial um list was generated 17 and above, but we 198 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:03,680 do want to dive deeper into that in consultation with the airport board uh 199 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:07,880 to really look at again, life safety. Um one of the things that's been talked 200 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:12,560 about a lot is a tower um that allows uh uh greater, how do you call it, uh 201 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:17,480 diversity of of flights and uh times and safety and stuff. So, we really wanted 202 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:21,400 to to dial it in to that piece. And and the other side is we do talk a lot about 203 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,800 economic development. Um one of the things that talk about this a little bit 204 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,960 in my later presentation, but is how do we quantify need and how do we 205 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:33,920 um help the development uh community 206 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:39,360 make the case for but for. I can't do this but for this investment. So, kind 207 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:43,080 of change the narrative from um giving money just because it's happening to 208 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,080 reserving the money for things that are extraordinary. 209 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,560 » Just to clarify, Council Dinner, you'd like to see infrastructure projects in 210 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,560 there? 211 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,280 » Mr. Mayor, I'm not saying I need to see infrastructure projects in there, but we 212 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:06,120 just had a discussion a couple weeks ago about electrical needs, you know, and 213 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:10,880 you know, would the the electrical needs of the airport fall under a capital 214 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,480 improvement list uh that could be addressed? 215 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,840 » It's an excellent uh question. Urban renewal is uh kind of 216 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:22,000 circumscribed um by the state, so it has to have a 217 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,200 uh a public benefit. You can't uh anymore you cannot uh give money to 218 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,760 something that doesn't have a that public benefit nexus. So, um I think at 219 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,400 this point since we're in the feasibility well, potentially in the 220 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:36,240 feasibility side, it's identifying all the all the known needs and then finding 221 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,920 out which ones are actually statutorily able to be addressed. 222 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,200 » We'll definitely take a look at those. Thank you, Council Dinner. Mayor Council 223 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Tilman, um that kind of falls into my question. 224 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Um you're including the control tower, and 225 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:55,960 this may be a question for Scott. I'm not 100% sure. Um 226 00:16:53,800 --> 00:17:01,400 how would urban renewal would that then fall all the cost on the 227 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:04,640 tower if it is allowed? Would that then fall under urban renewal 228 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,959 and not on the taxpayers that we're looking at right now? And how would that 229 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,640 possibly affect any grants or funding that we might get for the tower? 230 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,640 » So 231 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Uh Mr. Mayor, Councillor Tilmont, Scott Swanson, Director of Aviation. Um 232 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:30,520 with that question saying if uh the use of URA funds were used to construct the 233 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:34,080 control tower as opposed to uh like the general fund or allocated funding from 234 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,240 the taxpayers in the community. >> Correct. I mean, when we talked before, 235 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,880 you were saying that it may cost us upwards of 236 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,400 3 to 4 million dollars to build the tower if we got the grants from the FAA. 237 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,120 It's now being listed as a 6 and 1/2 million dollar project and I'm just 238 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,880 wondering would that then fall under a URA project or would that fall under 239 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,520 You kind of see where I'm coming with this. 240 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:59,080 » Yes, I do. Absolutely. Uh Councillor Tilmont, so this project list that was 241 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:05,480 put together by uh Dan, myself, and Ophelia is kind of just a a first go. Um 242 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:10,280 this was taken out of the 2020 Airport Master Plan where at the time you could 243 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:14,200 do a control tower for 6 and 1/2 7 million dollars. At this time now, that 244 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,440 is a lot of the pricing on here would need to get updated before it was 245 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:21,840 finalized into a legitimate project list. Um and a lot of things I look at 246 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,400 is kind of like um Councillor Dittenber pointed out is, you 247 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,760 know, the utility of the area and what's that being looked like. Uh for me, one 248 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,600 of the highest priorities would be a curb gutter sidewalk along the north 249 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:37,160 side of Aviation Way, at least from Eustick to Linden. Uh just get some 250 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:41,040 walkability in those areas and then that road on the north side for access into 251 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:46,000 the undeveloped area of the airport or kind of area. So, this was taken to 252 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:50,360 populate the project list. I would not look at the pricing on this project list 253 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:55,080 as finite or, you know, never changing because we know that's not the case. Um 254 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:00,080 back to your question though, if we utilize URA funding to meet a federal 255 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,880 grant match, I have found nothing in regulation that says you can't do that. 256 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,800 URA doesn't have it within the state code. 257 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:11,680 Uh federal guidance doesn't talk anything about it. Um I think really 258 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:15,520 it's whether or not the sponsor has a match capable and I think that would be 259 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:21,200 a deeper discussion with legal on whether a urban renewal agency counts as 260 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,680 a sponsor for the city if they're an agency for that city that owns the 261 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,440 airport. So, that would take some looking into 262 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,920 on whether or not that would even I do not expect to be able to use URA funding 263 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:36,520 for a control tower. I would expect it to come how it always comes 264 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:40,920 and then we'd get that 90 to 95% match from the feds to do it. 265 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:44,680 » Okay. That was my question. Thank you. >> And with that Council Tilmont, we can 266 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,160 follow up with a grant um coordinator and stuff for the FAA 267 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,920 just to clarify if we're that's a allowed 268 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,920 option. 269 00:19:52,760 --> 00:20:00,040 Council Allgood? >> Yeah, I'll feel you. I realize this is 270 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:03,760 very early, but just just my two cents uh going along the lines of what Council 271 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Dinnenberg talked about things like the Ustick I-84 interchange, 272 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:13,000 those kind of things. I see those as much more important and 273 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,080 much more of a catalyst to that area than doing runway lights or you know 274 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,000 what I'm saying? >> Mhm. 275 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:22,800 » Uh runway lights are something we can budget for, but something big like an 276 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,280 interchange at Ustick would would change the entire environment out there. 277 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,680 » Absolutely. >> And and so um yeah, as we move forward I 278 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,480 I I would like to see that kind of stuff move up on the list. 279 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,000 » Thank you for that. Thank you for that comment. 280 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:42,080 » Thank you Council Allgood and I agree that with that. Um anything else from 281 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Council? 282 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,400 All right, thank you. And that concludes Thank you Economic Development 283 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,280 for putting this together. Obviously, this is a working list. 284 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,440 This is not an action item tonight, just a workshop to give Council 285 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,080 some information and with that we'll go ahead and conclude at 5:31 tonight's 286 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,640 workshop and we'll see you back at 6:00 p.m. 287 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,400 » Mhm.