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order walking the senate on how

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tells for individuals wishing to

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public comment- remotely today

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there can of course the swing

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space- I will ask- us to tv are

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final for all my- to make their

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way. Down we do not currently

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have a quorum we need two more

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for a quorum so will begin as a

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subcommittee senate's topless

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quorum when a couple more

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members ocon we have six bills

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on today's agenda the first two

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goals are mine so our vice chair

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center until a bill will preside

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over those. Two bills as I

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present- and we want. We will

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once we have a car- will adopt a

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committee rules- but small pass

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over that for now- so- we will

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now. Move to our first item all

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passed gavel to our voice.

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the. Everything on. The on. Over

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welcome senator wiener you may

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press your bill. Okay and

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minimize your this is a senate

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bill works yes sorry yes we are

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- will be reviewing s. B. For.

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the senate wiener. Thank you

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very much my to my her-

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colleagues are senate bill- will

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our and non call. To you their

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and- to- 1100% of housing- it

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will address owning and also the

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- so that we can to- do new

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homes- we have- a lot of work

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and research years to try to

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address. Severe housing shortage

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where she million of home- and

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we know that probably so around

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house that short is our homes

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are hello market rate which is

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what this bill- addresses. We

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know that our churches

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synagogues mosques and other

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religious institutions as well

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as nonprofit colleges have a lot

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of lands and often they have way

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more land than they need whether

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it's a church or synagogue that

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has a parking lot that's three

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times as big as what their

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congregation needs warts are

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simply have land that they're

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not. Using and we know the date-

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often want to build housing to

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promote their mission to provide

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housing. For people however due

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to zoning restrictions and

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approval- limitations are there

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often impossible. For them to do

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so we know that- from- analysis

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a few years ago from the turner

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center which is being updated as

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we speak. Looking at only the

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largest counties in california

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so not even all the counties a

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small subset of the counties

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said in a fight- I believe-

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thirty eight thousand acres are

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potentially a potential plans.

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for affordable housing if you

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take the whole state and god in

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the nonprofit colleges it's a

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lot more. This will be a game

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changer. For the construction of

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. 101% of portable housing- open

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up tens of acres of land. That

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will be affected prioritize-

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builders particular non does the

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bill that bill a hundred for

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housing they won't have to can.

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with the market rate developers

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which is often a barrier in

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terms of accessing. Land bill is

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twenty a it passed the senate

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thirty nine to nothing- I was

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very proud of that broad bi

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partisan support for this bill-

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among members because we know

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there are members in both

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parties who have. A lot of

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different pages on housing it

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really was a unifying. Bill we

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did a lot of work in this

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committee and also in the

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governance and finance committee

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that you're on the bill to try

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to really respect the local

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context in terms of neighborhood

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issues- and we've honored all of

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those agreements- from twenty

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twenty. We have a massive

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coalition- behind this bill of

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affordable housing advocates

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faith based. Organizations and

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advocates- are labor unions-

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business organizations I'm very

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proud of this broad coalition

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and I respectfully ask your aye

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vote. With me today to testify

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and I know will probably

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established. Moments but with me

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today to tell. Is tied from the

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- the direct policy of an-

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housing is. Of northern cal. And

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l. From congress but nay is. In

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soccer. Class so- matter chair-

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I assume of stop form. As of

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fact yes- we are we are. Able to

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senate you're might be off.

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donald don. And we do have a- we

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do have a members now to able to

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see a so we're gonna ahead move

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forward on that- senate leader.

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president wiener present a- for.

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a troubled present like spear

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president bush for president

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carrero. Several presence

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cortese mcguire. Videa seyarto.

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there to present skin. Number

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yeah number present bob. Harper

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we'd like to first adopt the

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committee rules for twenty

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twenty three and twenty twenty

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fourth legislative session

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without objection I'm sorry. Gen

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is there any objection adopting

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the rules. C. Nine seven two-

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really just the result. Without

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objection they are currently

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atop thank you. Thank you madam

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vice chair no to our witnesses.

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thank you chair and committee

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member- test finds the of senate

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for on behalf and housing this

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or california unease abram d. As

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in on the policy director from

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ph. M. Ph represent around seven

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hundred and fifty affordable

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housing builders advocates and

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community leaders working to

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support the creation and

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preservation of affordable homes

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across california. As we all

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know the shortage of housing has

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created a desperate crisis first

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stay in california's families

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last year the california

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department of housing and

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community development released a

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report enumerated in our

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challenge we need to build at

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least one million affordable

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units over the next eight to ten

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years. Has large property

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holders faith based institutions

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important position help us meet

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this need as previously stated

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there tens of thousands of acres

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that are possible for us to use

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to build affordable housing many

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areas. These organizations as

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long standing community anchors

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which to lead in addressing our

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housing and homeless crisis our

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faith partner see this as an

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extension of not only their

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mission but also their moral

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calling. The problem we're

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trying to solve is that while

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many these institutions are

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ready to build and support

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affordable housing the current

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zoning prevents it our partners

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minimum and we're typically

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several years to all these

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projects to move forward. That

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kind of delay can cost us

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hundreds of thousands of dollars

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on these units and discourages

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and prevents us from building

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homes for low income families

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and working families. This bill

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insure that we apply reasonable

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streamlining principles that are

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religious communities can't open

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their doors to californians in

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need. We ballots approach by

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including strong labor

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requirements and worker

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protections as well. As you can

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see the analysis the bill has

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support for about a hundred and

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eighty groups from across the

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state. Including labor equity

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housing groups faith groups.

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offer muslim jewish and

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christian communities as well.

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well collectively- just support

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and I'm happy to help. Answer

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questions as needed thank you.

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thank you madam chair and

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committee members and thank you

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senator wiener for authoring

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this important legislation. And

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thank you to jake pet cat pack

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and all of the co sponsors of

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this bill for championing this

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effort on behalf of california

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communities of faith. My name is

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rabbi mona alfi and the senior

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rabbi at congregation b'nai.

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israel you're in sacramento

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sacramento's largest synagogue.

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and the oldest synagogue in the

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state of california. The most

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repeated commandment in the

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torah is love your neighbor as

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yourself. For you were slaves in

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the land of egypt. Cities across

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california are facing a housing

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crisis housing and homelessness

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crisis and we're seeing our

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neighbors live in the streets.

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in astounding numbers. Driven by

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our jewish values in our own

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history of oppression countless

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synagogues are eager to address

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our homeless crisis homelessness

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crisis. And support our

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neighbors that are most in need.

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and we know that our friends in

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the muslim christian and other

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faith communities share the same

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important values. Faith

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communities are some of the

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state's leading organizers of

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volunteering charity efforts to

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help our neighbors experiencing

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homelessness. But food your

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donation drives temporary

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shelter options and similar

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campaigns are largely bandaid

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solutions. Just yesterday the

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sacramento bee reported a third

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death this winter due to the- to

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weather. Inclement weather for

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people who are homeless. The

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jewish sage maimonides has a

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famous teaching about the latter

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of giving charity. Where the

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highest rung the most impactful

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way you can give is to help

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someone succeed themselves. In

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fact this lesson is sometimes

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credited as inspiration for the

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proverb about teaching a man to

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fish. Our community is

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desperately want to create

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permanent solutions for those

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experiencing poverty hunger

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housing insecurity and

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homelessness. And we we're ready

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with a quip for it synagogues

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and other faith institutions own

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large properties all over the

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state's many in communities

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where portable housing is

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desperately needed. And many

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with lan to spare. But we need

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to pass this bill to remove the

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red tape and prohibitive.

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processes that make it hard to

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build a portable housing. For

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some pay institution this op.

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could be their lifeline

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providing revenue that can

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stabilize their organization's

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finances. This bill is a

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creative solution to address the

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critical issue of our time. And

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gives it if communities of faith

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important opportunity to form a

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real minutes for. A kind and

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loving deed for our neighbors

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thank you for your consideration

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. Thank you very much. Never

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will now move on to. Which lead

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witnesses. In support here in

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room twelve hundred. Do we have

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any witnesses in support of sb

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four here in room twelve hundred

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here they come. Sign up right

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here. You can. Madam chairman

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still the s. Shot here on behalf

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of the of santa monica and

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strong support thank you. Good

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afternoon man turn numbers

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caroling about the city and

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county of san francisco in

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support. Good afternoon my name

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is simply customer policy

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advocate for western center on

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law and poverty we have a

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support if amended position and

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look forward to conversations to

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ensure that the projects are

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located on toxic land thank you

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- brings up a map of lighthouse

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public affairs and our clients.

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spur and habitat for humanity

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and support. And you have

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renters city lawcenter skidrow

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nonprofit. Pro bono law firm we

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are excited to sponsor and

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support this bill. Scissor

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rodriguez proud member of

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carpenters local one fifty two I

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reside in stockton california

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selma king county I stand it

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support with my brothers and

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sisters today and for s. B. Four

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we need housing now thank you.

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good afternoon I'm the reverend

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dr mary craves a presbyterian

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pastor from redwood city and

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because I know of an increasing

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number of churches that have

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both the property and the

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passion. To provide affordable

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housing- here to support as

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before. Good afternoon my name's

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called swarms I'm a resident of

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sacramental a member of local

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forty six an inmate here here in

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favor of us sb four thank you.

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my name's robin dr penny nixon

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from the county of san matteo

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codirector the peninsula

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solidarity cohort and right now

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I'm working with five churches

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who desperately desire to build

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affordable housing on their land

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. My name is reverend dr marlon

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bessie I pastor in san mateo

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california and I'm the co

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director of the peninsula

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solidarity cohort my church is

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one of the ones. That is

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actively trying to build

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affordable housing in san mateo

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fired your support press before

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thank you. Hey my name is almost

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not- I am currently in east bay

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umb lead volunteer I'm

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originally based in oakland park

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is the- originally based in

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modesto california central

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valley currently in oakland

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right now I'm here. And support

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on behalf of espn bees and also

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myself for sb four- thank you

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and state- good afternoon my

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name is doctor tervis page

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aminopterin universalist

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minister in san mateo and also

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with the peninsula saudi energy

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cohort to. Be here to show my

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support. My name is krista

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hansen I am a member of

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peninsula solidarity cohort and

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of the congregational church is

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san matteo and we very very much

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want this bill to pass. I could

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afternoon lewis monday with bury

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council we represent about three

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hundred and thirty of the bay

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area's largest employers and I

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think housing is the number one

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issue for our region to solve-

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we're here in strong support of

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s. Before today thank you. My

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name is dick and lauren mccomb's

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I am a deacon in the episcopal

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church I'm a member of peninsula

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solidarity cohort and also faith

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in action bay area it's time. To

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support housing in our area I

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support s. Before thank you for

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your time. Madam chair scott

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governor behalf the construction

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employers association in support

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. Madam chairman is pastor

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curtis smith of the pastors

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destiny christian center

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stockton california. Also

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director for faith in the valley

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and I'm here in strong support

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of its before. Good afternoon

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madam chair and committee

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members my name's maria coronado

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with selfless mountain states

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carpenters proud member of local

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three two three and we support

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as before thank you. Good

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afternoon my name's alex are

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calling a policy manager at mid

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penn housing affordable housing

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developer and we stand in strong

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support of this before. Good

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afternoon mainly maintenance for

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the southwest regional mountain

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states mountain states regional

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council of carpenters and member

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of local etal five we're in

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strong support of. His before

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thank you. Good afternoon my

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name is at the ventura I'm a

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represented with the southwest

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mountain states regional council

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of carpenters representing

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ventura santa barbara san luis

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obispo county we strongly

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support this before thank you.

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madam chair members of the

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committee jordan plan a kind of

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a hard on behalf of californian

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be instructs report thank you.

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hello my name is sam the

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director of mission housing

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development corporation in san

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francisco on affordable housing

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provider I'm here today on

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behalf of mission mercy housing

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tenderloin housing clinic in the

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john store company as well as

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bridge housing and we are here

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in strong support of this before

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thank you. Hi glorified

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executive director of the in the

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action and on behalf of our

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three thousand members across

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california in strong support.

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I'm lisa moss and I'm a member

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of san francisco u. M. B. And I

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am very strong support events

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before. Good afternoon sure

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numbers jordan crimes on behalf

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of environmental nonprofit green

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built alliance here in strong

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support of this before thank you

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. Hello my name is a totally is

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carper's local twenty to thirty

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six out of oakland and I'm a

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strong supporter of this before

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thank you. Good afternoon

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everybody my name somebody. On

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behalf of nor cal carpenters

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union in strong support. Rauner

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let solano county resident

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carpenters local one eighty nor

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cal carpenters in strong support

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. Hi my name's ira kaplan I'm a

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member of san francisco again be

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I'm here in strong support of

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this before thank you. Hello

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everyone matthew miller norco

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carpenters I'm a member of

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carpenters are troubled others

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local ninety sixty eight in

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livermore in strong support. And

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we need housing in the peninsula

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badly. Afternoon everyone- zac

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bowling- volunteer lead with

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east bay m. B. I'm here in

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strong support for us before

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thank you. Good afternoon alleys

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a permit on behalf of the

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housing action coalition and

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enthusiastic support but I'm

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also here because I've been

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housing insecure my entire life

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and we need solutions now thank

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you. Good afternoon my name is

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ralph sonnenfeld I'm with you

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can be action and I'm here on

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behalf of chapters and partners

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espn be grow the richmond

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mountain view yimby napa solano

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for everyone northern neighbors

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peninsula for everyone progress

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no we valley san francisco emb

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santa cruz in b. Santa rosa can

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be slow cøng. B. South bay m. B.

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sell side ford urban

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environments manelis and people

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for housing orange county thank

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you. Right okay now red and here

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on behalf of how to eighty you

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in the twenty thousand

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homeowners in our community in

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strong support of us before. Hi

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susan setter homes san francisco

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emb member I live in support of

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housing and I'm grateful and I

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want more people. To have the

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same opportunities. Hello alex

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nylander as I work in the action

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I'm also a member of peninsula

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for everyone in strong support

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of s. Before. Hi I am just in

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markets with enterprise

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community partners for a

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national affordable housing

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nonprofit and on behalf of our

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san francisco la and stockton

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offices were here in strong

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support thank you. Good

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afternoon that the legacy of

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kings here on behalf of all home

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and sb silicon valley action fan

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. Afternoon pass today picture

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embrace church an organizer with

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faith in the valley in strong

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support of s. Before we need

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housing now. Good afternoon my

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name's courtney pal and with

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resources for community

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development or and nonprofit

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housing developer in support of

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us before. Good afternoon cassie

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manzini on behalf of the

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california school employees

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association and strong support.

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afternoon madam chair edward

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evans carpenters local two

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seventeen nor cal carpenters in

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strong support of as before.

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what estado minimalist ideas and

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diesel so to present them that

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on in the coming in oakland on

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it will invite him but yeah.

568
00:21:12,704 --> 00:21:14,773
this district a took up a spot

569
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,276
low day civic what through but

570
00:21:18,343 --> 00:21:20,512
go out today and bass will he's

571
00:21:20,579 --> 00:21:22,748
up to go up you know start how

572
00:21:22,814 --> 00:21:24,950
it is good even extortion.

573
00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:27,219
because a little slim people

574
00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:28,487
okay I'm a the correct to put up

575
00:21:28,553 --> 00:21:31,289
with kettle as he critical

576
00:21:31,356 --> 00:21:41,199
complete to stop does he. Good

577
00:21:41,266 --> 00:21:42,668
madam chair to doug excel

578
00:21:42,734 --> 00:21:44,536
because states count carp rep

579
00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:46,338
locals one nine sandia impair

580
00:21:46,405 --> 00:21:47,406
county where strong support for

581
00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:51,176
us beef thank. Thank mister

582
00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:53,311
chair cliff here on behalf of

583
00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:55,514
shape the g. Public affairs.

584
00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:56,682
representing over major or- cal

585
00:21:56,748 --> 00:21:58,717
from c. Diego northern cal

586
00:21:58,784 --> 00:22:03,088
please vehicle sponsor of before

587
00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:06,158
. After d'amico carpenter locals

588
00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:07,559
fifty one says no we can in

589
00:22:07,626 --> 00:22:12,531
strong support sb. Muncher my

590
00:22:12,597 --> 00:22:14,232
name is cheryl mccurry I'm

591
00:22:14,299 --> 00:22:16,068
fitter center for kerr look

592
00:22:16,134 --> 00:22:17,502
twenty two surfaced. Nor caucus

593
00:22:17,569 --> 00:22:22,674
union and for thank you. Good

594
00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,109
afternoon my name is martinez

595
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,444
but I was a proud member of the

596
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,479
carpenters union is strong

597
00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:31,383
support for s. Before. They have

598
00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:33,752
to do my name isn't on when you

599
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:35,854
also nor cal carpenters local

600
00:22:35,921 --> 00:22:36,521
seven thirteen out of hayward in

601
00:22:36,588 --> 00:22:38,590
strong support of this before.

602
00:22:38,657 --> 00:22:40,225
bring a white with the

603
00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:41,293
california housing consortium in

604
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,497
support. Good afternoon rebekah

605
00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:48,100
markets on behalf of leading h.

606
00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:51,403
california in support. Good

607
00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:52,938
afternoon jason martinez from

608
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:55,006
the carpenters local seven one

609
00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:56,808
out of fresno masalah proud

610
00:22:56,875 --> 00:23:02,380
military veterans- in support.

611
00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:03,749
good afternoon travis alexander

612
00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:05,250
nor cal carpenters union in

613
00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:06,752
fresno county resident here in

614
00:23:06,818 --> 00:23:10,088
strong support of this before.

615
00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:11,957
good afternoon this is my final

616
00:23:12,023 --> 00:23:13,391
comment is local eighty nine

617
00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:16,194
solano county in strong support

618
00:23:16,261 --> 00:23:19,131
of his before thanks. Hi melanie

619
00:23:19,197 --> 00:23:20,398
how wine truppe I'm here

620
00:23:20,465 --> 00:23:22,634
representing temple isaiah in

621
00:23:22,701 --> 00:23:25,170
contra costa county and hopes

622
00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:28,507
solutions which is a- home

623
00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:33,078
provider in contra costa. In

624
00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:37,616
support of us before. Hi can

625
00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:39,518
warn with the multi faith action

626
00:23:39,584 --> 00:23:40,752
coalition shelter and housing

627
00:23:40,819 --> 00:23:42,220
task force in contra costa

628
00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:44,823
county in strong support of this

629
00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:48,160
before. Hello scott little hill

630
00:23:48,226 --> 00:23:49,761
resident of richmond california

631
00:23:49,828 --> 00:23:51,496
proud member of nor cal

632
00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:53,365
carpenters local union one five

633
00:23:53,431 --> 00:23:55,066
two and contra costa counties

634
00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:59,237
strong support best before. Find

635
00:23:59,304 --> 00:24:02,207
douglas leach I would like to

636
00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:03,809
I'm a member of the multi faith

637
00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:05,844
action coalition and would like

638
00:24:05,911 --> 00:24:09,114
to also- on behalf of this

639
00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:11,316
social justice alliance of the

640
00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:12,951
interfaith council of contra

641
00:24:13,018 --> 00:24:15,220
costa county register. Of that

642
00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:17,789
both organizations strong

643
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:21,526
supporter best before. Good

644
00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:22,727
afternoon my name is jesse

645
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,496
problems proud member of the nor

646
00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:26,097
cal carpenters union and

647
00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:26,865
president seven thirteen

648
00:24:26,932 --> 00:24:28,600
representing alameda county and

649
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:29,734
we're strong support of this

650
00:24:29,801 --> 00:24:33,405
before thank you. Good afternoon

651
00:24:33,471 --> 00:24:36,341
everyone I local seven thirteen

652
00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:37,609
I support as before thank you.

653
00:24:37,676 --> 00:24:40,278
thanks for. Good afternoon

654
00:24:40,345 --> 00:24:41,847
daniel greg member nor cal

655
00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:43,849
carpenters union local twenty

656
00:24:43,915 --> 00:24:45,817
thirty six in oakland strong

657
00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:48,920
support sb four thank you. Good

658
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:50,155
afternoon dan cal mucci

659
00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:51,857
carpenters local twenty two in

660
00:24:51,923 --> 00:24:54,059
san francisco here in strong

661
00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:57,028
support of s. Before. Good

662
00:24:57,095 --> 00:24:58,163
afternoon my name is juan

663
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:59,397
espinoza I'm a proud member of

664
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:02,100
nor call carpenters union local

665
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:02,667
two seventeen in some auto

666
00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:06,071
county. And I'm here in support

667
00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:11,042
of- is before thank you for. Hi

668
00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:11,977
david on behalf of the budget

669
00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:13,678
san francisco standing with our

670
00:25:13,745 --> 00:25:15,280
partners in the carpenters union

671
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,784
in strong support. Good

672
00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:20,785
afternoon my name is doug

673
00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:22,587
chesshyre I'm a proud member of

674
00:25:22,654 --> 00:25:24,389
carpenters local six oh five

675
00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:26,191
monterey county here in strong

676
00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:31,496
support of this before. Good

677
00:25:31,563 --> 00:25:32,597
afternoon my name is laura

678
00:25:32,664 --> 00:25:34,199
drastic I'm a proud member of

679
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:36,301
the nor cal carpenters local

680
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:38,970
four oh five san jose california

681
00:25:39,037 --> 00:25:40,205
and I'm in strong support of s.

682
00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:46,144
before. My name is a cable I am

683
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,013
a resident of pleasanton which

684
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:49,180
is a little town in alameda

685
00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:51,616
county. Animal the union rep

686
00:25:51,683 --> 00:25:54,019
with the carpenters and I'm in

687
00:25:54,085 --> 00:25:58,423
support for this bill thank you

688
00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:59,891
. Hello my name is francisco

689
00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:01,493
martinez someone up county

690
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:03,662
resident and on the field with

691
00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:05,730
with a local carpenter saw local

692
00:26:05,797 --> 00:26:07,265
twenty to twenty six and I'm in

693
00:26:07,332 --> 00:26:11,670
support of flies before. My

694
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:13,238
number is move several places

695
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:15,607
that keep it up we are let you

696
00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:16,341
civic what through. It the

697
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:17,642
missouri booted off their queue

698
00:26:17,709 --> 00:26:19,044
the little because the window

699
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:22,447
units on with the for. I use

700
00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:28,253
that as a us out as the- hosting

701
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,789
is the person noted the rest.

702
00:26:30,855 --> 00:26:32,557
merrill lynch health so of local

703
00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:34,259
house finance agency in strong

704
00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:37,495
support of s. B. For. Good

705
00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:39,531
afternoon my name is luke

706
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:40,565
brattan mot proud member the nor

707
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:41,866
cal carpenters union in support

708
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:47,305
of. This before thank you. Hi I

709
00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:48,974
am karen sandel yak co founder

710
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,176
from foundation community

711
00:26:51,242 --> 00:26:53,712
housing and support thanks. Hi I

712
00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,947
am brian leahy I'm part of a a.

713
00:26:56,014 --> 00:26:58,450
r. P.'s response team and are

714
00:26:58,516 --> 00:26:59,985
three point two million members

715
00:27:00,051 --> 00:27:01,686
we're strong support of s. S.

716
00:27:01,753 --> 00:27:06,191
before. Mark stivers for the

717
00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:06,791
california housing partnership

718
00:27:06,858 --> 00:27:09,995
in strong support. Madam chair

719
00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:11,296
members good afternoon james

720
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:13,531
director of the california state

721
00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:14,566
council labor's part being

722
00:27:14,632 --> 00:27:18,803
support. Twenty with the a

723
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:19,237
california apartment

724
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:20,238
association's from support

725
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:24,175
thanks. April atkins proud

726
00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:26,044
member of local twenty two san

727
00:27:26,111 --> 00:27:27,879
francisco strong support thank

728
00:27:27,946 --> 00:27:31,816
you for allowing me to speak.

729
00:27:31,883 --> 00:27:33,051
good afternoon j. Bratcher

730
00:27:33,118 --> 00:27:34,486
executive officer nor cal

731
00:27:34,552 --> 00:27:35,620
carpenters union on behalf her

732
00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:37,389
thirties over thirty six

733
00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:38,590
thousand hard working men and

734
00:27:38,656 --> 00:27:41,393
women out in the field in twenty

735
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:42,260
two local unions we strongly

736
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,730
support as before thank you.

737
00:27:45,797 --> 00:27:47,499
good afternoon my name is one

738
00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:49,000
barbosa and I'm representing-

739
00:27:49,067 --> 00:27:51,036
local coverage local five zero

740
00:27:51,102 --> 00:27:53,304
five in santa cruz california-

741
00:27:53,371 --> 00:27:57,509
in strong support of as before.

742
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:59,944
canister from ninety one forty

743
00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:01,880
four in san jose I strongly

744
00:28:01,946 --> 00:28:07,552
support as before. Once the

745
00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:08,920
containers travel a lot as

746
00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:10,288
livermore california sport is

747
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:16,227
before. Foundries from local

748
00:28:16,294 --> 00:28:17,529
fifty nine nine redding

749
00:28:17,595 --> 00:28:18,897
california I strongly support as

750
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:23,201
before. My name's chris martinez

751
00:28:23,268 --> 00:28:26,171
local fifty nine nine redding

752
00:28:26,237 --> 00:28:27,138
california and I strongly

753
00:28:27,205 --> 00:28:31,176
support. My name is jerry chan

754
00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:33,144
tapia from local forty six

755
00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:34,379
sacramento and I strongly

756
00:28:34,446 --> 00:28:39,851
support its before. My name's

757
00:28:39,918 --> 00:28:41,553
dave on adelina twenty five year

758
00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,321
member of laughter sixty eight

759
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:45,190
out of oakland I support

760
00:28:45,256 --> 00:28:46,157
commonsense legislation like

761
00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:50,361
this before. Because out of san

762
00:28:50,428 --> 00:28:52,197
jose local four five carpenters

763
00:28:52,263 --> 00:28:57,902
and support the sb. Four regally

764
00:28:57,969 --> 00:28:59,938
out a little ninety one forty

765
00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:02,173
four out of san jose california

766
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,110
I truly support as before. A

767
00:29:05,176 --> 00:29:07,412
little three local ninety one

768
00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:11,149
forty four exuberance before.

769
00:29:11,216 --> 00:29:15,019
gonzalez carpenters union local

770
00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:16,654
forty six a member- a member of

771
00:29:16,721 --> 00:29:20,091
the original sacramento sorry

772
00:29:20,158 --> 00:29:23,928
supporters before. But a reserve

773
00:29:23,995 --> 00:29:25,797
announces local twenty two

774
00:29:25,864 --> 00:29:31,102
carpenters I supporters before.

775
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:34,672
capitalize a local twenty to

776
00:29:34,739 --> 00:29:36,508
thirty six in strong support of

777
00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:39,177
s. B. For. Hello- matt was

778
00:29:39,244 --> 00:29:40,912
embarrassed as here you

779
00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:43,982
californians support. Good

780
00:29:44,048 --> 00:29:45,216
afternoon precor chapter

781
00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:46,885
director of community organizing

782
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:48,153
andy kerr a jewish faith

783
00:29:48,219 --> 00:29:49,954
community in los angeles also a

784
00:29:50,021 --> 00:29:52,657
member of la voice and we

785
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:55,293
support with amendments thanks.

786
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,361
the river zachary hoover

787
00:29:56,427 --> 00:29:57,662
executive director of la voice

788
00:29:57,729 --> 00:29:59,130
speaking on behalf of our sixty

789
00:29:59,197 --> 00:30:00,698
member congregations also part

790
00:30:00,765 --> 00:30:02,167
of peak of california we have a

791
00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:03,434
dozen congregations interested

792
00:30:03,501 --> 00:30:04,836
in doing this but face daunting

793
00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,305
challenges and we support with

794
00:30:07,372 --> 00:30:11,409
immense. Carmona director of

795
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:12,644
campaigns for people california

796
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:18,750
will support with the max. Ryan

797
00:30:18,816 --> 00:30:20,451
chilcote corporate reached

798
00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:28,459
support as before. Perfect thank

799
00:30:28,526 --> 00:30:31,429
you. To have any other witnesses

800
00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:45,176
in support. Thank you. For all

801
00:30:45,243 --> 00:30:48,146
take that is it in support yes.

802
00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:50,114
thank you very much sir will now

803
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:51,749
move on to live lead witnesses

804
00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:55,253
in opposition here in twelve

805
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,387
hundred room to offer under we

806
00:30:56,454 --> 00:30:57,255
have any. Witnesses in

807
00:30:57,322 --> 00:31:12,103
opposition.

808
00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:13,571
please proceed thank you thank

809
00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:15,673
you so much good afternoon madam

810
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:17,008
vice chair members but really

811
00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:18,643
you on behalf the state building

812
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,944
construction trades council

813
00:31:20,011 --> 00:31:21,646
california representing a

814
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:22,880
million half a million members

815
00:31:22,947 --> 00:31:24,382
statewide with an oppose unless

816
00:31:24,449 --> 00:31:26,651
amended position on us before.

817
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,453
specifically we urge the

818
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:29,687
committee to include a skilled

819
00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:30,455
and trained workforce

820
00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:32,156
requirement for residential

821
00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:33,691
construction under the bill

822
00:31:33,758 --> 00:31:35,226
instead of the eighty mile of

823
00:31:35,293 --> 00:31:37,128
the standard from last year. The

824
00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:38,429
current language is legally

825
00:31:38,496 --> 00:31:40,498
problematic has not even going

826
00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:41,933
to affect yet allows developers

827
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,167
you license unenforceable

828
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,636
healthcare requirement that's

829
00:31:44,702 --> 00:31:46,271
likely preempted under the

830
00:31:46,337 --> 00:31:47,538
federal employee retirement

831
00:31:47,605 --> 00:31:49,774
income security act of nineteen

832
00:31:49,841 --> 00:31:50,975
seventy four. This fatal

833
00:31:51,042 --> 00:31:52,277
preemption problem is

834
00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:53,444
highlighted in the text of the

835
00:31:53,511 --> 00:31:55,513
bill and it's severability

836
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,382
clause provisions the bill also

837
00:31:57,448 --> 00:31:58,750
includes a superficial

838
00:31:58,816 --> 00:31:59,751
apprenticeship requirement

839
00:31:59,817 --> 00:32:03,221
that's really nothing more than

840
00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:04,188
just a paperwork exercise. Any

841
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:05,156
streamlining bill worker

842
00:32:05,223 --> 00:32:06,891
protections stand listing both

843
00:32:06,958 --> 00:32:08,626
prevailing wage coverage and

844
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:10,395
skilled and trained workforce

845
00:32:10,461 --> 00:32:11,396
requirements. Goldentree

846
00:32:11,462 --> 00:32:12,830
provisions require percentage of

847
00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,399
workers on the project the

848
00:32:14,465 --> 00:32:15,700
graduates of a state approved

849
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:17,702
apprenticeship programs without

850
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:18,903
this requirement the bill

851
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,371
creates two tiers of labor

852
00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:21,706
standards that result and

853
00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:22,974
residential workers having fewer

854
00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:25,977
protections than those other

855
00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:27,345
sectors of construction. Barring

856
00:32:27,412 --> 00:32:28,646
the use of skilled and trained

857
00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:30,448
workers on the job site is how

858
00:32:30,515 --> 00:32:32,417
the state can best capture the

859
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:32,917
productivity benefits a

860
00:32:32,984 --> 00:32:34,485
prevailing wage. This ensures

861
00:32:34,552 --> 00:32:35,653
that workplace safety and

862
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,455
ultimately the health and safety

863
00:32:37,522 --> 00:32:39,257
of people living in these homes.

864
00:32:39,324 --> 00:32:40,758
stay approved union

865
00:32:40,825 --> 00:32:42,160
apprenticeship programs for the

866
00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:43,728
state's critical pipeline to the

867
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:45,530
substantial drops. In the

868
00:32:45,596 --> 00:32:46,831
building trades union members

869
00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:48,232
here stick with the construction

870
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,801
long term increasing their

871
00:32:49,867 --> 00:32:53,271
lifetime earnings and feeling

872
00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:55,273
healthy economies. The fire

873
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:57,942
moved for me tech- economy the

874
00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:59,711
world still needs to be

875
00:32:59,777 --> 00:33:00,878
physically built. We strongly

876
00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:02,880
support gay affordable housing

877
00:33:02,947 --> 00:33:04,882
bills but is short sighted to

878
00:33:04,949 --> 00:33:06,718
miss an opportunity to invest in

879
00:33:06,784 --> 00:33:08,052
and promote a strong pipeline

880
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,253
for highly skilled and trained

881
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,089
workforce that would be

882
00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:13,358
critical. To meeting the housing

883
00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:14,392
production needed today and in

884
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,960
the future. Opponents of skilled

885
00:33:16,027 --> 00:33:17,829
entry provisions are completing

886
00:33:17,895 --> 00:33:19,163
the total number of housing

887
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:21,299
units needed to be built. To the

888
00:33:21,366 --> 00:33:23,801
small number of housing projects

889
00:33:23,868 --> 00:33:25,703
shovel ready today to fabricate

890
00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:27,305
a worker shortage. I want to

891
00:33:27,372 --> 00:33:31,175
reiterate there is no worker

892
00:33:31,242 --> 00:33:32,076
shortage here in california.

893
00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:33,378
instead of focusing on labor

894
00:33:33,444 --> 00:33:35,513
standards for small segment.

895
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,514
three we believe labor standards

896
00:33:36,581 --> 00:33:37,982
should be expanded to a much

897
00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:40,718
broader segment of the ford will

898
00:33:40,785 --> 00:33:42,520
housing industry. We urge you to

899
00:33:42,587 --> 00:33:44,756
vote no or commit to withholding

900
00:33:44,822 --> 00:33:45,790
your bill on the floor and

901
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,759
working with us to ensure these

902
00:33:47,825 --> 00:33:48,292
important amendments are

903
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,362
included before the bill passes

904
00:33:51,429 --> 00:33:52,563
off the floor. Thank you very

905
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:58,436
much. Jennifer second half the

906
00:33:58,503 --> 00:33:59,303
california association of

907
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,772
realtors we have an oppose

908
00:34:00,838 --> 00:34:01,806
unless amended position

909
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:03,307
currently we're very optimistic

910
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:05,343
that in the end will be able to

911
00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:06,444
resolve our concerns with the

912
00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:07,678
author. Primarily among a

913
00:34:07,745 --> 00:34:09,247
variety of technical moments

914
00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:10,448
that we are working on with the

915
00:34:10,515 --> 00:34:11,816
senator we're concerned about

916
00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:13,618
the term ancillary uses within a

917
00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:16,888
single family neighborhood. The

918
00:34:16,954 --> 00:34:19,557
broad. Use of ancillary could

919
00:34:19,624 --> 00:34:20,758
result in something like a dry

920
00:34:20,825 --> 00:34:22,560
cleaner or some kind of service

921
00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:23,394
shop located that could provide

922
00:34:23,461 --> 00:34:25,296
a beneficial use. To the

923
00:34:25,363 --> 00:34:26,597
community that the project is

924
00:34:26,664 --> 00:34:29,233
built in what we're looking to

925
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:30,168
do is simply clarified that the

926
00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:31,569
commercial uses within that

927
00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:32,270
residential single family

928
00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:33,738
neighborhood would only include

929
00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:35,673
child care facilities. And

930
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:37,408
community centers as defined by

931
00:34:37,475 --> 00:34:43,848
hud thank you. Madam chair

932
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:44,949
members got which on behalf of

933
00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:46,551
the more than two hundred

934
00:34:46,617 --> 00:34:47,485
thousand members of the state

935
00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:49,187
association of electrical

936
00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:50,188
workers. The california state

937
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:52,190
pipe trades council. The western

938
00:34:52,256 --> 00:34:54,091
sit western states council sheet

939
00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:56,227
metal workers. The california

940
00:34:56,294 --> 00:34:58,429
coalition of utility employees

941
00:34:58,496 --> 00:34:59,664
and the elevator constructors

942
00:34:59,730 --> 00:35:02,200
union. You can support housing

943
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:03,601
without stripping worker

944
00:35:03,668 --> 00:35:05,736
protections that are in the law

945
00:35:05,803 --> 00:35:08,372
today in collective bargaining

946
00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:10,541
we call that a take back. This

947
00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,978
bill is a take back it should be

948
00:35:14,045 --> 00:35:17,982
voted down thank you. The other

949
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:20,551
couple killed three other

950
00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:23,788
position. He to sit afternoon my

951
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,289
name is mark I work for this

952
00:35:25,356 --> 00:35:26,724
building trades and an

953
00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:30,094
oppositional amended. Thank you

954
00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:31,395
. Okay let me just clarify that

955
00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:33,064
ray now remove on to. Opposition

956
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:37,235
witnesses from top. Mitchell

957
00:35:37,301 --> 00:35:38,603
bechtel with the discounts of

958
00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:39,637
iron workers were oppose unless

959
00:35:39,704 --> 00:35:45,243
amended thank you. Hello my name

960
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:46,444
is like a steel I'm with the

961
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,880
ibew local eleven of los angeles

962
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,449
representing almost twelve

963
00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:52,483
thousand members and we oppose

964
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:56,254
as before. Hello my name is an

965
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,922
estimate on all representing the

966
00:35:57,989 --> 00:35:59,190
los angeles and orange county's

967
00:35:59,257 --> 00:36:00,324
building and construction trades

968
00:36:00,391 --> 00:36:03,027
council represent all over a

969
00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:03,594
hundred forty thousand hard

970
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:04,328
working men and women the

971
00:36:04,395 --> 00:36:05,663
construction sector. Forty eight

972
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:08,299
affiliates and I urge a- no

973
00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:09,934
support for senate bill for less

974
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:12,870
as troopers of standards and to

975
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:15,773
labor standards thank you.

976
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,542
raymond davis president of iron

977
00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:18,776
workers local one eighteen here

978
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:20,578
in sacramento I- stand with the

979
00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,079
building trades and oppose this

980
00:36:22,146 --> 00:36:27,852
bill unless amended. Good

981
00:36:27,919 --> 00:36:29,387
afternoon ladies and gentlemen

982
00:36:29,453 --> 00:36:30,187
the council my name is ken

983
00:36:30,254 --> 00:36:31,622
miller business asian organizer

984
00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,257
for ironworkers local three

985
00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,759
seventy eight and I stand in

986
00:36:34,825 --> 00:36:35,493
solidarity with the state

987
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,628
building trades to oppose unless

988
00:36:37,695 --> 00:36:42,900
amended thank you. Good

989
00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:44,468
afternoon choi aren't so with

990
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:45,670
our workers local one eighteen

991
00:36:45,736 --> 00:36:47,438
out of sacramento and I also

992
00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:48,439
stand with the state building

993
00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:49,840
trades an oppose unless amended

994
00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:57,081
thank you. Good afternoon my

995
00:36:57,148 --> 00:36:58,382
name is maggie and I'm the

996
00:36:58,449 --> 00:37:00,251
business manager for a local

997
00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:00,918
union two to eight plumbers and

998
00:37:00,985 --> 00:37:01,886
pipefitters a merry still

999
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:03,588
california and I stand with the

1000
00:37:03,654 --> 00:37:05,423
california state pipe trades in

1001
00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:07,024
the building trades an oppose

1002
00:37:07,091 --> 00:37:11,963
unless amended. Perfect do we

1003
00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:14,198
have any other witnesses in

1004
00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:16,334
opposition test before here in

1005
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,438
room. Twelve hundred. Seeing

1006
00:37:20,504 --> 00:37:23,941
none thank you well now because

1007
00:37:24,008 --> 00:37:31,349
there is one more okay. I

1008
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:33,284
apologize for my tardiness I am-

1009
00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:35,686
john hershey with bombs and

1010
00:37:35,753 --> 00:37:36,253
pipefitters local four four

1011
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,055
seven in sacramento county- and

1012
00:37:38,122 --> 00:37:38,990
I'm here oppose unless amended

1013
00:37:39,056 --> 00:37:43,461
thank you. Any other witnesses

1014
00:37:43,527 --> 00:37:45,296
in opposition to us before

1015
00:37:45,363 --> 00:37:48,666
hearing room twelve hundred.

1016
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:52,336
correct we will now move on to

1017
00:37:52,403 --> 00:37:53,337
witnesses wanting to testify p.

1018
00:37:53,404 --> 00:37:55,339
of the teleconference service

1019
00:37:55,406 --> 00:37:56,540
will be limiting the phone

1020
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,309
testimony to twenty minutes for

1021
00:37:58,376 --> 00:38:00,745
the bill for all bills during

1022
00:38:00,811 --> 00:38:03,681
this hearing. Moderator if you

1023
00:38:03,748 --> 00:38:04,615
would please from the

1024
00:38:04,682 --> 00:38:06,417
individuals waiting to testify

1025
00:38:06,484 --> 00:38:09,487
in support or opposition and we

1026
00:38:09,553 --> 00:38:11,856
will begin. Ladies and gentlemen

1027
00:38:11,922 --> 00:38:13,758
if you are in support or

1028
00:38:13,824 --> 00:38:15,793
opposition sb for please press

1029
00:38:15,860 --> 00:38:17,862
one then zero on your phone. To

1030
00:38:17,928 --> 00:38:19,664
oversee the line number in be

1031
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:20,998
placed back in queue. The

1032
00:38:21,065 --> 00:38:22,500
speaker phone please pick up

1033
00:38:22,566 --> 00:38:23,534
your handset before pressing the

1034
00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:25,169
numbers and once again that's

1035
00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:29,840
supporter opposition sb four one

1036
00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:33,044
nine zero we will goal with it

1037
00:38:33,110 --> 00:38:37,014
my number one twenty two. Your

1038
00:38:37,081 --> 00:38:41,052
line is open one twenty two-

1039
00:38:41,118 --> 00:38:42,253
gerald johnson road sprinkler

1040
00:38:42,319 --> 00:38:44,355
fitters local six six nine. Can

1041
00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:45,556
we stay on the state building

1042
00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:47,458
trades in opposition with

1043
00:38:47,525 --> 00:38:51,562
amended. Thank you my number one

1044
00:38:51,629 --> 00:38:59,170
thirty two. One thirty two your

1045
00:38:59,236 --> 00:39:00,871
line is open. Yes can you hear

1046
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:05,576
me. Go to say fifty five yes I

1047
00:39:05,643 --> 00:39:10,481
can hear you go head. Twenty

1048
00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:12,717
katie lou creating brand I'm

1049
00:39:12,783 --> 00:39:15,186
here representing. It will

1050
00:39:15,252 --> 00:39:17,988
action fine and how. It will

1051
00:39:18,055 --> 00:39:29,533
advise committee. Strong support

1052
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,071
- before. Service provided for

1053
00:39:34,138 --> 00:39:38,175
of supervisors thank you. Thank

1054
00:39:38,242 --> 00:39:41,078
you not to local line one thirty

1055
00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:47,251
for please go ahead. Okay one

1056
00:39:47,318 --> 00:39:48,753
thirty five p. Push yourself our

1057
00:39:48,819 --> 00:39:53,224
he go ahead. Can you hear me but

1058
00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:57,328
I calling the regarding s. B.

1059
00:39:57,394 --> 00:40:00,231
twenty three hello do I speak to

1060
00:40:00,297 --> 00:40:02,600
for twenty three I know it a

1061
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:04,435
speech. The bill ma'am right now

1062
00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:05,736
we're taking and into or in

1063
00:40:05,803 --> 00:40:10,307
opposition for s. Before. Okay I

1064
00:40:10,374 --> 00:40:14,111
go back to sleep twenty three

1065
00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:20,551
okay thank you thank you may.

1066
00:40:20,618 --> 00:40:24,121
and it next will go to live and

1067
00:40:24,188 --> 00:40:27,358
- three here. I will go to line

1068
00:40:27,424 --> 00:40:29,360
number one so two please ahead.

1069
00:40:29,426 --> 00:40:31,495
hello this is kevin info the for

1070
00:40:31,562 --> 00:40:33,864
committee legislation to help

1071
00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:37,568
and for of a the for thank you.

1072
00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:41,205
next we will two I never eighty.

1073
00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,640
one to wonder what the tropical

1074
00:40:42,706 --> 00:40:44,708
of bishops and I apologize our

1075
00:40:44,775 --> 00:40:46,143
support better got misdirected

1076
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,546
within the portal but you don't

1077
00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:50,848
have us listed on the analysis

1078
00:40:50,915 --> 00:40:52,416
we are in very strong support of

1079
00:40:52,483 --> 00:40:57,454
this before thank you. Thank you

1080
00:40:57,521 --> 00:41:02,960
I number. One eighty seven. The

1081
00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:03,894
new jersey members this is the

1082
00:41:03,961 --> 00:41:04,695
extent of all the task

1083
00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:05,663
california's largest the most

1084
00:41:05,729 --> 00:41:07,264
impactful nonprofit homeless

1085
00:41:07,331 --> 00:41:09,800
service providers in for support

1086
00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:11,569
press before thank you. Thank

1087
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:19,910
you my number. One seventy four

1088
00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:20,811
one seventy four. Instrument

1089
00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:22,713
drove the port ask people thank

1090
00:41:22,780 --> 00:41:29,720
you. Thank you bye number. One

1091
00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:31,055
sixty seven. Good afternoon

1092
00:41:31,121 --> 00:41:32,489
senators- this is clearly spoke

1093
00:41:32,556 --> 00:41:33,524
with the california building

1094
00:41:33,591 --> 00:41:35,826
industry association we are

1095
00:41:35,893 --> 00:41:38,462
support if amended for s. Before

1096
00:41:38,529 --> 00:41:39,630
we requested the labor

1097
00:41:39,697 --> 00:41:41,098
provisions be removed from the

1098
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:42,800
bill other than that this is a

1099
00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:44,201
wonderful bill when I think

1100
00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:45,936
center where for his leadership.

1101
00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:48,672
in addressing california's

1102
00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:52,543
housing crisis. Thank you bye

1103
00:41:52,610 --> 00:41:57,281
number so three go ahead. The

1104
00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,084
binder. The city of campbell

1105
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:01,452
south bay and protect the you'd

1106
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:03,087
be proud support before thank

1107
00:42:03,153 --> 00:42:09,627
you. Thank you my number. One

1108
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,228
nine four. This is to be more

1109
00:42:11,295 --> 00:42:13,464
shiny one calling from angeles

1110
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:14,031
on behalf of westside for

1111
00:42:14,098 --> 00:42:15,666
everyone strong support of sb.

1112
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:20,638
thank you. Thank you bye number

1113
00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:22,973
. Thirty two. Hi open schaller

1114
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,308
from los angeles single family

1115
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:27,144
homeowners on I work with that

1116
00:42:27,211 --> 00:42:30,948
church right now on fox. Taken a

1117
00:42:31,015 --> 00:42:33,450
to the clinton fifteen but house

1118
00:42:33,517 --> 00:42:37,187
on such. Thank you senator thank

1119
00:42:37,254 --> 00:42:42,960
you for and before. Thank you my

1120
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:47,564
number. Two zero one two zero

1121
00:42:47,631 --> 00:42:49,600
one. The reverend james chan of

1122
00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:51,969
the fiscal dies of los angeles

1123
00:42:52,036 --> 00:42:54,872
our vision has come twenty five.

1124
00:42:54,939 --> 00:43:02,446
of all church. In the dot each.

1125
00:43:02,513 --> 00:43:05,082
to afford housing only we could

1126
00:43:05,149 --> 00:43:08,085
get sb four pass. Thank you

1127
00:43:08,152 --> 00:43:11,855
structure. Thank you number

1128
00:43:11,922 --> 00:43:15,859
eighty nine number. How good

1129
00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:17,494
afternoon this st boston bill

1130
00:43:17,561 --> 00:43:18,595
manager of plumbers pipefitters

1131
00:43:18,662 --> 00:43:21,665
local eight four from turkey.

1132
00:43:21,732 --> 00:43:24,234
mister to build state trades and

1133
00:43:24,301 --> 00:43:28,005
- cooper. To this bill. Thank

1134
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:31,108
you number one seven six point

1135
00:43:31,175 --> 00:43:34,912
seventy six. Afternoon care

1136
00:43:34,979 --> 00:43:37,414
number proposed on behalf of the

1137
00:43:37,481 --> 00:43:39,850
about the hills in the office

1138
00:43:39,917 --> 00:43:43,787
thank you. Thank you my number

1139
00:43:43,854 --> 00:43:47,124
one if. One fifteen. Good

1140
00:43:47,191 --> 00:43:48,659
afternoon description is not

1141
00:43:48,726 --> 00:43:50,427
behalf of a local five six nine

1142
00:43:50,494 --> 00:43:52,796
occurred six hundred union a lot

1143
00:43:52,863 --> 00:43:54,598
. San diego imperial county

1144
00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:56,467
calling in opposition unless

1145
00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:58,602
amended for both senate for an

1146
00:43:58,669 --> 00:44:00,137
four to three you don't house by

1147
00:44:00,204 --> 00:44:05,576
break the backs workers thank.

1148
00:44:05,642 --> 00:44:07,277
thank you a line of one the you

1149
00:44:07,344 --> 00:44:10,881
love one. Hello this is a

1150
00:44:10,948 --> 00:44:12,449
committee president business age

1151
00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:14,018
of iron look three said eight

1152
00:44:14,084 --> 00:44:16,086
neistat with this building. And

1153
00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:24,261
unless I. Thank you line of with

1154
00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:27,598
. Forty seven forty seven. Wild

1155
00:44:27,664 --> 00:44:32,369
well the- local ninety colleges

1156
00:44:32,436 --> 00:44:34,038
considers them standing the

1157
00:44:34,104 --> 00:44:37,374
state billingtree follow up of

1158
00:44:37,441 --> 00:44:42,579
this whole this bill. Thank you

1159
00:44:42,646 --> 00:44:47,785
alaina. One twenty five. Yes

1160
00:44:47,851 --> 00:44:49,453
good afternoon this is james

1161
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,020
from the business agent our

1162
00:44:50,087 --> 00:44:51,688
local three seventy and I stand

1163
00:44:51,755 --> 00:45:05,035
opposed to s. B. For a man.

1164
00:45:05,102 --> 00:45:05,669
twenty one twenty six. Thank you

1165
00:45:05,736 --> 00:45:11,775
hearing. Schoology. Good

1166
00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:13,811
afternoon kalra a press business

1167
00:45:13,877 --> 00:45:15,345
thank you nine one because of

1168
00:45:15,412 --> 00:45:17,714
forty three l. And we stand with

1169
00:45:17,781 --> 00:45:18,682
stiff building trades in

1170
00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:20,384
opposite of that before last

1171
00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:26,090
summer thank you. Thank you

1172
00:45:26,156 --> 00:45:30,327
number. Fifty three fifty three.

1173
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:33,030
hi my name is brian and I'm a

1174
00:45:33,097 --> 00:45:33,664
age for you a local three nine

1175
00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:35,632
three over thirty hundred

1176
00:45:35,699 --> 00:45:36,400
pipefitters fitters and h. B.

1177
00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:37,701
service tech in san clara in it

1178
00:45:37,768 --> 00:45:39,636
okay- today I'm into oppose it

1179
00:45:39,703 --> 00:45:42,206
before unless amended and I that

1180
00:45:42,272 --> 00:45:43,307
you all do the same thing you

1181
00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:44,675
for your time. Thank you my

1182
00:45:44,741 --> 00:45:47,511
number eight nine. Point nine.

1183
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:49,746
hi my name is publicly- I live

1184
00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:50,647
in oak and I phone california

1185
00:45:50,714 --> 00:45:52,382
being used bay for everyone and

1186
00:45:52,449 --> 00:45:53,617
I'm calling strong. This before

1187
00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:59,223
thank. Thank you my number so

1188
00:45:59,289 --> 00:46:03,093
seven once a seven. Robert new

1189
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,130
fields doesn't the power I don't

1190
00:46:06,196 --> 00:46:09,466
judy or county. In strong

1191
00:46:09,533 --> 00:46:15,439
support of the. Four thank you

1192
00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:19,209
we will go to my number zero

1193
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:20,344
three zero. Madam chair todd to

1194
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:21,678
refer the sub california con is

1195
00:46:21,745 --> 00:46:23,780
so. In support of s. B. Thank

1196
00:46:23,847 --> 00:46:27,684
you. Thank you line fifty.

1197
00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:30,420
vicegerent this is rob stoker on

1198
00:46:30,487 --> 00:46:32,256
behalf of sheet metal workers

1199
00:46:32,322 --> 00:46:33,390
local one of four and the

1200
00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:34,558
building construction trades

1201
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:36,560
council of alameda county we

1202
00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:37,594
stand with the state building

1203
00:46:37,661 --> 00:46:38,996
trades in opposition of us

1204
00:46:39,062 --> 00:46:43,100
before unless mended thank you.

1205
00:46:43,167 --> 00:46:44,568
thank you thanks to recorded

1206
00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:47,871
line number one forty seven.

1207
00:46:47,938 --> 00:46:49,773
it's a matter speaking about

1208
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,008
pakistan give allowing support

1209
00:46:51,074 --> 00:46:56,914
s. Before. Yeah thank you I get

1210
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,016
my number six six please call

1211
00:46:59,082 --> 00:47:02,486
ahead. Good afternoon ab right

1212
00:47:02,553 --> 00:47:05,722
manager do a to six and press

1213
00:47:05,789 --> 00:47:06,557
couple representing members from

1214
00:47:06,623 --> 00:47:07,524
fresno madera kings and

1215
00:47:07,591 --> 00:47:09,626
flourished. We stand with the

1216
00:47:09,693 --> 00:47:11,028
building trades in opposition

1217
00:47:11,094 --> 00:47:16,099
unless amended. Thank you. Thank

1218
00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:18,035
you mexico line one eighty

1219
00:47:18,101 --> 00:47:20,737
please going. My name is tim

1220
00:47:20,804 --> 00:47:22,306
clark which a community church

1221
00:47:22,372 --> 00:47:25,142
in portola valley. In strong

1222
00:47:25,209 --> 00:47:29,079
support of this before. Thank

1223
00:47:29,146 --> 00:47:31,448
you next we'll go to line number

1224
00:47:31,515 --> 00:47:35,852
seventy four please go ahead.

1225
00:47:35,919 --> 00:47:37,521
this is jordan wind from united

1226
00:47:37,588 --> 00:47:39,122
way of greater los angeles-

1227
00:47:39,189 --> 00:47:42,226
calling in in strong support of

1228
00:47:42,292 --> 00:47:45,562
sb four thanks very much. Thank

1229
00:47:45,629 --> 00:47:47,030
you my number eighty three

1230
00:47:47,097 --> 00:47:50,667
please go ahead. Hello this is

1231
00:47:50,734 --> 00:47:52,035
david barboza on behalf of

1232
00:47:52,102 --> 00:47:54,805
abundant housing la in strong

1233
00:47:54,871 --> 00:47:57,140
support of its before thank you

1234
00:47:57,207 --> 00:47:58,475
. Thank you next to a bottom

1235
00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:01,178
line number sixty one sixty one

1236
00:48:01,245 --> 00:48:03,880
please go ahead. Good afternoon

1237
00:48:03,947 --> 00:48:05,916
this is john henry lopez with

1238
00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:07,451
the ua plumbers and pipefitters

1239
00:48:07,517 --> 00:48:09,586
local two four six representing

1240
00:48:09,653 --> 00:48:11,321
fresno madera until tulare kings

1241
00:48:11,388 --> 00:48:13,824
counties and I'm standing in

1242
00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:17,160
strong opposition. Of this bill

1243
00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:19,997
unless amended thank you. Thank

1244
00:48:20,063 --> 00:48:24,268
you my number one goal one one a

1245
00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:25,802
one. Hello the next more locally

1246
00:48:25,869 --> 00:48:27,037
elevator union I'm staying

1247
00:48:27,104 --> 00:48:28,672
involuntary with the state

1248
00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:31,675
building trained in opposition.

1249
00:48:31,742 --> 00:48:32,843
you cannot build housing that

1250
00:48:32,909 --> 00:48:34,678
could be on state skilled and

1251
00:48:34,745 --> 00:48:36,280
trained workforce is mandatory

1252
00:48:36,346 --> 00:48:38,949
for the state yet the residents

1253
00:48:39,016 --> 00:48:43,654
. Thank you. Thank you my number

1254
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,224
one of forty two one forty two.

1255
00:48:47,291 --> 00:48:48,525
hello my name is different how

1256
00:48:48,592 --> 00:48:50,193
they were they gamble I'm with

1257
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:52,929
the procedure at the pacific

1258
00:48:52,996 --> 00:48:54,798
presbyterians. In los angeles

1259
00:48:54,865 --> 00:48:56,833
area. Representing fifty four

1260
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:59,670
churches fong event be. We need

1261
00:48:59,736 --> 00:49:01,638
to find an extract right back

1262
00:49:01,705 --> 00:49:02,939
between barker protection and

1263
00:49:03,006 --> 00:49:08,712
for les. Affordable housing.

1264
00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:11,982
thank you we will go to number

1265
00:49:12,049 --> 00:49:14,251
two oh six tools. Yes this

1266
00:49:14,318 --> 00:49:15,652
martin rodriguez I work with

1267
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,522
local for thirty three. Dallas

1268
00:49:18,588 --> 00:49:19,790
state building trades opposes

1269
00:49:19,856 --> 00:49:24,127
bill let amended. Thank you.

1270
00:49:24,194 --> 00:49:26,563
thank you weinberg two seventy

1271
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:32,502
two please go ahead. Hi my

1272
00:49:32,569 --> 00:49:33,704
number seventy two your line is

1273
00:49:33,770 --> 00:49:39,943
open. John johnson at the

1274
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:42,346
berkeley now crap we stand in

1275
00:49:42,412 --> 00:49:44,214
line with the state building

1276
00:49:44,281 --> 00:49:45,716
trades in opposition is- at

1277
00:49:45,782 --> 00:49:48,485
before thank you. Thank you bye

1278
00:49:48,552 --> 00:49:51,988
number. Two hundred. Good

1279
00:49:52,055 --> 00:49:53,423
afternoon this is one hundred

1280
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,359
guests with ibew local forty we

1281
00:49:55,425 --> 00:49:56,760
stand with the state building

1282
00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:58,995
trades and oppose as before and

1283
00:49:59,062 --> 00:50:03,700
as amended. Thank you my number

1284
00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:06,636
fifty four fifty four. But gets

1285
00:50:06,703 --> 00:50:08,805
with sprinkler fitter to a local

1286
00:50:08,872 --> 00:50:10,073
seven oh nine we stand with

1287
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:10,607
state building trades in

1288
00:50:10,674 --> 00:50:12,809
opposition unless amended thank

1289
00:50:12,876 --> 00:50:19,649
you. My number. Sixty eight. Hi

1290
00:50:19,716 --> 00:50:21,451
my name is frank martinez policy

1291
00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:22,919
director for the southern

1292
00:50:22,986 --> 00:50:23,687
california association of

1293
00:50:23,754 --> 00:50:25,021
nonprofit housing groups camps

1294
00:50:25,088 --> 00:50:27,591
we are co sponsoring this bill.

1295
00:50:27,657 --> 00:50:28,925
represents nonprofit builders

1296
00:50:28,992 --> 00:50:30,494
affordable housing in southern

1297
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,229
california region of nineteen

1298
00:50:32,295 --> 00:50:33,463
million people are members

1299
00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:34,765
strongly support this bill and

1300
00:50:34,831 --> 00:50:36,633
they agree on affordable housing

1301
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:38,135
projects in the pipelines that

1302
00:50:38,201 --> 00:50:41,037
would move forward faster as

1303
00:50:41,104 --> 00:50:42,205
soon as this bill is passed

1304
00:50:42,272 --> 00:50:49,913
thank you. Thank you my number.

1305
00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:50,781
fifty seven fifty seven. The

1306
00:50:50,847 --> 00:50:52,315
firm sacramento here building

1307
00:50:52,382 --> 00:50:53,784
and construction trades council.

1308
00:50:53,850 --> 00:50:55,419
and we stand with the cal state

1309
00:50:55,485 --> 00:50:57,654
building trades in opposition

1310
00:50:57,721 --> 00:51:01,525
unless amended thank you. Thank

1311
00:51:01,591 --> 00:51:04,961
you my number one fifty one.

1312
00:51:05,028 --> 00:51:06,296
carol can the san diego building

1313
00:51:06,363 --> 00:51:09,065
trades council and in opposition

1314
00:51:09,132 --> 00:51:12,402
again a lesson and it thank you

1315
00:51:12,469 --> 00:51:16,907
. Thank you bye number. One

1316
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:17,574
thirty seven. Yeah this is larry

1317
00:51:17,641 --> 00:51:20,010
mazzola you a local thirty eight

1318
00:51:20,076 --> 00:51:20,911
plumbers and pipefitters

1319
00:51:20,977 --> 00:51:21,912
business manager at san

1320
00:51:21,978 --> 00:51:24,981
francisco strongly oppose this

1321
00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:26,750
bill unless amended. I wanna

1322
00:51:26,817 --> 00:51:28,652
make it clear that there is only

1323
00:51:28,718 --> 00:51:29,519
one union in support of this

1324
00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:33,089
bill and they are not part of

1325
00:51:33,156 --> 00:51:34,825
the building trades thank you.

1326
00:51:34,891 --> 00:51:37,027
thank you of line number seventy

1327
00:51:37,093 --> 00:51:43,934
please go ahead. My number

1328
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,070
seventy six please go ahead. Hi

1329
00:51:47,137 --> 00:51:49,773
disappearing of represent and-

1330
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,508
refer someone approvals local

1331
00:51:51,575 --> 00:51:52,876
forty of san francisco county

1332
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:55,745
and san matteo and we stand in

1333
00:51:55,812 --> 00:51:57,714
the with the state military to

1334
00:51:57,781 --> 00:52:00,083
strong opposition of this bill

1335
00:52:00,150 --> 00:52:02,853
unless amended. Thank you my

1336
00:52:02,919 --> 00:52:11,995
number. Eighty five eighty five.

1337
00:52:12,062 --> 00:52:13,163
my number eighty five your line

1338
00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:17,767
is open. We will move on to the

1339
00:52:17,834 --> 00:52:19,402
next line which would be fifty

1340
00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:22,272
eight to please go ahead. Good

1341
00:52:22,339 --> 00:52:23,473
afternoon my name's regina

1342
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:26,910
califia would the ibew local

1343
00:52:26,977 --> 00:52:27,477
five nine five representing

1344
00:52:27,544 --> 00:52:29,012
nearly twenty five hundred

1345
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:30,046
electrical workers in alameda

1346
00:52:30,113 --> 00:52:32,349
san joaquin calaveras county-

1347
00:52:32,415 --> 00:52:33,783
feeding in solidarity with the

1348
00:52:33,850 --> 00:52:34,684
state building trades in

1349
00:52:34,751 --> 00:52:38,021
opposition to senate bill four

1350
00:52:38,088 --> 00:52:45,595
thank you. Thank you my number.

1351
00:52:45,662 --> 00:52:46,796
one thirty eight. My number one

1352
00:52:46,863 --> 00:52:48,231
thirty eight your open. Yeah

1353
00:52:48,298 --> 00:52:49,566
good afternoon can you hear me

1354
00:52:49,633 --> 00:52:52,369
now. Go ahead. Hi my name is

1355
00:52:52,435 --> 00:52:54,004
patrick davidson local printer

1356
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:54,538
nine nine pairs knowledge

1357
00:52:54,604 --> 00:52:57,040
trades- represents san diego and

1358
00:52:57,107 --> 00:52:58,675
imperial county used I stand

1359
00:52:58,742 --> 00:53:01,678
opposition was the billion tree

1360
00:53:01,745 --> 00:53:05,181
jim was amended thank you. Thank

1361
00:53:05,248 --> 00:53:08,318
you. Go to my number one eighty

1362
00:53:08,385 --> 00:53:12,856
two. Hello this is rob nielsen

1363
00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:14,925
from palo alto and peninsula for

1364
00:53:14,991 --> 00:53:16,493
everyone and I am calling in for

1365
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,962
strong supporter of this before

1366
00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:22,532
thank you. Thank you will go to

1367
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,634
line number eighty nine eighty

1368
00:53:24,701 --> 00:53:31,007
nine please go ahead and. Number

1369
00:53:31,074 --> 00:53:36,146
eighty nine your line is open.

1370
00:53:36,212 --> 00:53:37,647
next we'll move on to line

1371
00:53:37,714 --> 00:53:40,116
number one thirty thirty please

1372
00:53:40,183 --> 00:53:46,990
go ahead. My number one thirty

1373
00:53:47,057 --> 00:53:52,596
your line is open. Okay we will

1374
00:53:52,662 --> 00:53:55,198
go to my number one thirty three

1375
00:53:55,265 --> 00:53:59,436
my number one thirty three.

1376
00:53:59,502 --> 00:54:02,005
afternoon rudy gonzalez cancers

1377
00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:03,773
ability you can reach council

1378
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,042
representing over seventeen

1379
00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:08,645
hundred apprentices in our area

1380
00:54:08,712 --> 00:54:10,046
eight thousand skilled and

1381
00:54:10,113 --> 00:54:10,914
trained union workers. And we

1382
00:54:10,981 --> 00:54:14,818
oppose unless amended standard

1383
00:54:14,884 --> 00:54:18,922
state bill trips. Thank you will

1384
00:54:18,989 --> 00:54:20,457
go to my are five please go

1385
00:54:20,523 --> 00:54:24,027
ahead. Yes reverend bert newton

1386
00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:26,229
in pasadena with making housing

1387
00:54:26,296 --> 00:54:28,231
and community happen and we are

1388
00:54:28,298 --> 00:54:30,233
in strong support of this before

1389
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:33,536
to address disappear. For awhile

1390
00:54:33,603 --> 00:54:39,075
housing crisis. Excludable to

1391
00:54:39,142 --> 00:54:41,378
line number one forty one. My

1392
00:54:41,444 --> 00:54:45,081
first behind his budget. My

1393
00:54:45,148 --> 00:54:46,883
number one forty one your line

1394
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:53,189
is open. Thank you I don't think

1395
00:54:53,256 --> 00:54:54,724
countered all of them french.

1396
00:54:54,791 --> 00:54:57,127
great when it will go to line

1397
00:54:57,193 --> 00:55:00,330
number forty is my number forty

1398
00:55:00,397 --> 00:55:01,598
. Yeah hi todd berry road

1399
00:55:01,665 --> 00:55:04,267
sprinkler fitters local six six

1400
00:55:04,334 --> 00:55:05,535
nine and I stand in opposition.

1401
00:55:05,602 --> 00:55:07,604
amended with the state building

1402
00:55:07,671 --> 00:55:10,440
trades thank you. Thank you to a

1403
00:55:10,507 --> 00:55:15,845
photo I. Number. Thirty four.

1404
00:55:15,912 --> 00:55:19,182
your local six nine. I stand

1405
00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:22,118
this building trades are not in

1406
00:55:22,185 --> 00:55:25,922
amend. Thank you klein number

1407
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:30,794
seven but it was a local sixty

1408
00:55:30,860 --> 00:55:32,729
nine I stand in with the state

1409
00:55:32,796 --> 00:55:35,999
building choi the lesson. Thank

1410
00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:41,337
you line. Two hard is robert.

1411
00:55:41,404 --> 00:55:43,306
lead with volunteer san

1412
00:55:43,373 --> 00:55:47,444
francisco emb and so thank. I

1413
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:51,915
thank you my number one of one

1414
00:55:51,981 --> 00:55:53,983
oh five. His office bizarre with

1415
00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:56,586
you a three nine three we

1416
00:55:56,653 --> 00:55:57,554
represent thirty one hundred

1417
00:55:57,620 --> 00:55:59,289
plumbers painters. And hvac

1418
00:55:59,355 --> 00:56:03,526
service. Santa clarendon no

1419
00:56:03,593 --> 00:56:04,728
county. We stand with the state

1420
00:56:04,794 --> 00:56:05,995
building trades and stand

1421
00:56:06,062 --> 00:56:08,031
opposition of sb four unless

1422
00:56:08,098 --> 00:56:15,905
amended. Thank you my number.

1423
00:56:15,972 --> 00:56:16,973
one eighty six. Afternoon among

1424
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,808
those particular here I'm also

1425
00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:20,243
business representative with you

1426
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:22,445
a local three nine three plumber

1427
00:56:22,512 --> 00:56:23,313
thinkers and perpetration

1428
00:56:23,379 --> 00:56:24,681
patterson santa clara and san

1429
00:56:24,748 --> 00:56:26,149
benito counties and we stand

1430
00:56:26,216 --> 00:56:27,417
with the state building trades

1431
00:56:27,484 --> 00:56:30,887
in opposition to this bill let's

1432
00:56:30,954 --> 00:56:33,857
amended. Thank you. Thank you

1433
00:56:33,923 --> 00:56:35,625
next to- go to line number

1434
00:56:35,692 --> 00:56:41,664
ninety nine please go ahead. My

1435
00:56:41,731 --> 00:56:42,832
number ninety nine your line is

1436
00:56:42,899 --> 00:56:46,402
open. Doug benji any-

1437
00:56:46,469 --> 00:56:47,937
international brotherhood of

1438
00:56:48,004 --> 00:56:49,539
electrical workers four four one

1439
00:56:49,606 --> 00:56:51,407
orange county we stand with the

1440
00:56:51,474 --> 00:56:53,743
building trades in opposition to

1441
00:56:53,810 --> 00:56:57,514
sb four unless amended. Thank

1442
00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:03,620
you bye number. Two eleven to

1443
00:57:03,686 --> 00:57:05,722
eleven. Hi this is david watkins

1444
00:57:05,789 --> 00:57:07,290
who is known to you beacon

1445
00:57:07,357 --> 00:57:12,362
support of sb. Thank you my

1446
00:57:12,428 --> 00:57:14,531
number two twenty one to twenty

1447
00:57:14,597 --> 00:57:18,501
one. Eight m. Subsidy q. We will

1448
00:57:18,568 --> 00:57:20,403
go with to nineteen please go

1449
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:26,810
ahead. Two twenty three please

1450
00:57:26,876 --> 00:57:29,946
go ahead. Dr michael on behalf

1451
00:57:30,013 --> 00:57:32,248
of senators in the interim

1452
00:57:32,315 --> 00:57:34,517
support of us before thank you.

1453
00:57:34,584 --> 00:57:37,153
thank you we will now go to

1454
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:40,456
nineteen please go ahead.

1455
00:57:40,523 --> 00:57:41,624
afternoon my name is erica

1456
00:57:41,691 --> 00:57:45,061
ballantyne with you a local

1457
00:57:45,128 --> 00:57:45,862
three nine three of the former

1458
00:57:45,929 --> 00:57:47,096
quite fingers and hvacr

1459
00:57:47,163 --> 00:57:48,631
technicians at fancards family

1460
00:57:48,698 --> 00:57:50,767
don't county we represent thirty

1461
00:57:50,834 --> 00:57:51,935
one hundred members today we

1462
00:57:52,001 --> 00:57:53,903
stand with the building trades

1463
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:56,973
in opposition of sb four unless

1464
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,408
amended thank you. Thank you

1465
00:57:58,474 --> 00:58:02,045
line number two twenty seven to

1466
00:58:02,111 --> 00:58:03,713
twenty seven. Hi my name is sean

1467
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:05,315
mcfeely I'm a proud you be

1468
00:58:05,381 --> 00:58:06,449
volunteer in strong support

1469
00:58:06,516 --> 00:58:13,623
thank you. Thank you my number.

1470
00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:15,024
one fifty two. Remembered you a

1471
00:58:15,091 --> 00:58:16,693
local two forty six fresno

1472
00:58:16,759 --> 00:58:20,530
plumbers and pipefitters. And we

1473
00:58:20,597 --> 00:58:21,664
- ten and strong up of that

1474
00:58:21,731 --> 00:58:26,236
before and that the minute.

1475
00:58:26,302 --> 00:58:32,809
thank you my number. Forty nine

1476
00:58:32,876 --> 00:58:33,543
forty two. Yeah that's right

1477
00:58:33,610 --> 00:58:36,346
weber ironworkers force. Please

1478
00:58:36,412 --> 00:58:41,851
stand with federal opposite.

1479
00:58:41,918 --> 00:58:43,286
that's the for which the

1480
00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:48,791
launchers. Thank you regard the

1481
00:58:48,858 --> 00:58:49,792
line numbers nine. And will be

1482
00:58:49,859 --> 00:58:58,067
our last. This. Global six nine.

1483
00:58:58,134 --> 00:59:02,105
strong opposition. For our

1484
00:59:02,171 --> 00:59:05,108
partners. Wall they don't hang

1485
00:59:05,174 --> 00:59:11,014
by. Okay thank you very much of

1486
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,449
a book. Madam are able to live

1487
00:59:13,516 --> 00:59:20,423
reached our twenty one I okay.

1488
00:59:20,490 --> 00:59:23,326
for without. Matter moderate

1489
00:59:23,393 --> 00:59:26,930
we've out m. We have taken to

1490
00:59:26,996 --> 00:59:28,464
minutes on my to. Sir we're

1491
00:59:28,531 --> 00:59:30,900
going to have. We're gonna stop

1492
00:59:30,967 --> 00:59:33,803
are test to- but they want to

1493
00:59:33,870 --> 00:59:36,172
thank our- all of our c. Numbers

1494
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:37,307
which- will now bring discussion

1495
00:59:37,373 --> 00:59:39,242
back to remember. To any of our

1496
00:59:39,309 --> 00:59:40,710
members have any or the would

1497
00:59:40,777 --> 00:59:45,782
like to make. Senator seyarto.

1498
00:59:45,848 --> 00:59:48,251
thank you center winner and- hi

1499
00:59:48,318 --> 00:59:51,087
my appreciate your to in trying

1500
00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:52,655
to address what is almost an

1501
00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:53,823
impossible problem for

1502
00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:56,259
california in- in our housing

1503
00:59:56,326 --> 01:00:00,530
industries- when you take aways

1504
01:00:00,596 --> 01:00:04,400
owning. Just save. You you

1505
01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:06,536
changes owning the city doesn't

1506
01:00:06,602 --> 01:00:08,671
have any say in it. What happens

1507
01:00:08,738 --> 01:00:11,040
to the rest of their zoning what

1508
01:00:11,107 --> 01:00:12,742
happens to their general plan.

1509
01:00:12,809 --> 01:00:15,578
as as I understand it when I

1510
01:00:15,645 --> 01:00:17,880
worked in local government a

1511
01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:20,216
lot. Once you change zone for

1512
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:22,385
the zoning for one and made it

1513
01:00:22,452 --> 01:00:24,754
more dancer last dancer added v.

1514
01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:26,356
and all these other things it

1515
01:00:26,422 --> 01:00:28,958
affects the ability of other

1516
01:00:29,025 --> 01:00:30,960
property that is probably zone

1517
01:00:31,027 --> 01:00:34,464
for the same thing. That's

1518
01:00:34,530 --> 01:00:36,432
actually zone for it- to get

1519
01:00:36,499 --> 01:00:40,169
through the process itself- so

1520
01:00:40,236 --> 01:00:42,205
how do you address that if the

1521
01:00:42,271 --> 01:00:45,775
city is not going to be involved

1522
01:00:45,842 --> 01:00:48,945
. So that their general plan.

1523
01:00:49,012 --> 01:00:51,080
all of their elements that are

1524
01:00:51,147 --> 01:00:53,549
part of the general plan don't

1525
01:00:53,616 --> 01:00:55,685
get thrown out of whack. And out

1526
01:00:55,752 --> 01:00:59,188
of whack means in disfavor. With

1527
01:00:59,255 --> 01:01:01,991
that housing commission here in

1528
01:01:02,058 --> 01:01:05,595
california- I thank you for the

1529
01:01:05,661 --> 01:01:06,696
question a couple a couple

1530
01:01:06,763 --> 01:01:08,531
things this is not our

1531
01:01:08,598 --> 01:01:09,699
government cause a quorum court

1532
01:01:09,766 --> 01:01:11,134
throws out of local zoning the

1533
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,469
there is land that may not be

1534
01:01:13,536 --> 01:01:15,138
zoned for residential- that's

1535
01:01:15,204 --> 01:01:16,606
owned by religious institution

1536
01:01:16,672 --> 01:01:19,542
that will now be zoned. For it-

1537
01:01:19,609 --> 01:01:21,477
the bill which is a good and

1538
01:01:21,544 --> 01:01:23,046
this was extensively negotiated

1539
01:01:23,112 --> 01:01:23,980
in governance and finance

1540
01:01:24,047 --> 01:01:26,182
committee with senator mcguire

1541
01:01:26,249 --> 01:01:28,317
who is the chair at the time.

1542
01:01:28,384 --> 01:01:30,153
three years ago- it it there are

1543
01:01:30,219 --> 01:01:32,588
a local height limit- often

1544
01:01:32,655 --> 01:01:35,358
applies or might be local have

1545
01:01:35,425 --> 01:01:38,161
an a plus one if it's in our for

1546
01:01:38,227 --> 01:01:43,099
commercial. Local zoning- it

1547
01:01:43,166 --> 01:01:45,868
hasn't made make some changes to

1548
01:01:45,935 --> 01:01:46,936
particularly for areas that you

1549
01:01:47,003 --> 01:01:48,604
know. The church land might not

1550
01:01:48,671 --> 01:01:50,406
be zoned for residential. But in

1551
01:01:50,473 --> 01:01:51,674
terms of the general or the

1552
01:01:51,741 --> 01:01:53,543
housing element I don't think it

1553
01:01:53,609 --> 01:01:55,445
has any effect. On on the rest

1554
01:01:55,511 --> 01:01:57,313
of it it's a city has owned for

1555
01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:59,282
different things in different

1556
01:01:59,348 --> 01:01:59,849
parts of the city- battle

1557
01:01:59,916 --> 01:02:02,718
remains. This will help cities

1558
01:02:02,785 --> 01:02:05,021
meet the arena. Because we know

1559
01:02:05,088 --> 01:02:06,622
the city sometimes own parcels

1560
01:02:06,689 --> 01:02:08,057
consumers are big fights about

1561
01:02:08,124 --> 01:02:09,792
this about whether a parcel is

1562
01:02:09,859 --> 01:02:12,128
actually realistic right and we

1563
01:02:12,195 --> 01:02:13,629
have a history with which to

1564
01:02:13,696 --> 01:02:15,198
which we tried to move away from

1565
01:02:15,264 --> 01:02:16,532
cities zoning a cemetery for

1566
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:18,468
high density housing or a- brand

1567
01:02:18,534 --> 01:02:19,735
new target that was as bill two

1568
01:02:19,802 --> 01:02:21,704
years ago for high density

1569
01:02:21,771 --> 01:02:22,805
housing. Sites that we know

1570
01:02:22,872 --> 01:02:24,073
we're never going to get bills-

1571
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:25,708
we tried to move away from that

1572
01:02:25,775 --> 01:02:27,410
but there's always disputes and

1573
01:02:27,477 --> 01:02:29,345
we know that there are. Even now

1574
01:02:29,412 --> 01:02:30,780
man that's identified that. They

1575
01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:32,615
hope will become available to me

1576
01:02:32,682 --> 01:02:34,283
that may not so this will be

1577
01:02:34,350 --> 01:02:35,952
helpful to cities in meeting

1578
01:02:36,018 --> 01:02:38,654
their the hardest part of arena.

1579
01:02:38,721 --> 01:02:40,256
the their most cities don't even

1580
01:02:40,323 --> 01:02:42,125
meet the market rate arena. But

1581
01:02:42,191 --> 01:02:43,793
almost no city meets are below

1582
01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:45,328
market rate units the hardest

1583
01:02:45,394 --> 01:02:46,562
part to me. This will help

1584
01:02:46,629 --> 01:02:49,031
cities meet. That obligation.

1585
01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:50,500
right yeah and I've heard this a

1586
01:02:50,566 --> 01:02:53,002
lot- in just a three years I've

1587
01:02:53,069 --> 01:02:54,203
been people I've been dealing

1588
01:02:54,270 --> 01:02:56,239
with this. In this legislature

1589
01:02:56,305 --> 01:02:58,107
for more than three years it's

1590
01:02:58,174 --> 01:02:59,575
been five six seven years I see

1591
01:02:59,642 --> 01:03:01,577
old bills that come through. And

1592
01:03:01,644 --> 01:03:03,045
not one of them has been

1593
01:03:03,112 --> 01:03:04,013
successful in dealing with- to

1594
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:11,821
talking about otherwise we all.

1595
01:03:11,888 --> 01:03:14,423
wouldn't be here- I think. You

1596
01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:16,359
know my issue with bills. Blake

1597
01:03:16,425 --> 01:03:19,762
this. Is that. Here we go. We

1598
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:20,563
kind of taking bites out local

1599
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:22,565
ca. I that's the- it's not the

1600
01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:24,600
problem the problem is. Over the

1601
01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:26,035
last. To forty years the state

1602
01:03:26,102 --> 01:03:28,437
has imposed so many regulations

1603
01:03:28,504 --> 01:03:31,073
and such a process to get

1604
01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:34,143
through. That we have. Created a

1605
01:03:34,210 --> 01:03:36,612
situation where our supply. Is

1606
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:40,149
severely behind the demand. And

1607
01:03:40,216 --> 01:03:42,351
no matter how hard we try and

1608
01:03:42,418 --> 01:03:45,188
what other fixes we do. We see

1609
01:03:45,254 --> 01:03:47,790
we just can't seem to fix that-

1610
01:03:47,857 --> 01:03:50,059
I know court current for

1611
01:03:50,126 --> 01:03:51,794
affordable housing projects.

1612
01:03:51,861 --> 01:03:53,296
that were started when I just

1613
01:03:53,362 --> 01:03:55,598
first got back on the city

1614
01:03:55,665 --> 01:03:57,266
council eight years ago. And

1615
01:03:57,333 --> 01:03:59,702
they're just now getting the

1616
01:03:59,769 --> 01:04:01,804
financing from each cd. To be

1617
01:04:01,871 --> 01:04:04,774
able to start the project so

1618
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,276
that it didn't fix the process.

1619
01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:09,312
whatever that law was that they

1620
01:04:09,378 --> 01:04:11,414
were using to get this process

1621
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,182
going it didn't fix it. What

1622
01:04:13,249 --> 01:04:16,619
needs fixed. Is the state's

1623
01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:19,155
entire process for building

1624
01:04:19,222 --> 01:04:21,958
everything. Because not only is

1625
01:04:22,024 --> 01:04:23,626
the housing falling behind but

1626
01:04:23,693 --> 01:04:24,961
once you build housing once

1627
01:04:25,027 --> 01:04:27,063
you've cleared the path to build

1628
01:04:27,129 --> 01:04:29,432
all the housing. We still have

1629
01:04:29,498 --> 01:04:31,601
roads flood control we have to

1630
01:04:31,667 --> 01:04:33,669
try to attract jobs we need

1631
01:04:33,736 --> 01:04:35,204
water infrastructure commercial

1632
01:04:35,271 --> 01:04:36,706
buildings to support that

1633
01:04:36,772 --> 01:04:39,208
housing. Affordable and safe

1634
01:04:39,275 --> 01:04:41,344
transit lines we need schools

1635
01:04:41,410 --> 01:04:42,445
and all of that is being

1636
01:04:42,511 --> 01:04:45,448
affected by the state's process.

1637
01:04:45,514 --> 01:04:48,884
and none of what we have tried

1638
01:04:48,951 --> 01:04:50,052
to do in the last five years or

1639
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:53,723
ten years even. Has fix that.

1640
01:04:53,789 --> 01:04:55,625
and so we keep throwing sequel

1641
01:04:55,691 --> 01:04:57,793
exemptions into this project and

1642
01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:00,763
that project. But at the same

1643
01:05:00,830 --> 01:05:02,431
and then nothing's working. And

1644
01:05:02,498 --> 01:05:03,933
so at some point we're gonna

1645
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,035
have to face the fact. That we

1646
01:05:06,102 --> 01:05:08,037
got to put everybody to work

1647
01:05:08,104 --> 01:05:09,839
doing all of those things but

1648
01:05:09,905 --> 01:05:11,774
all of those things are being

1649
01:05:11,841 --> 01:05:14,877
obstructed. By our process if we

1650
01:05:14,944 --> 01:05:17,546
don't address that is a state

1651
01:05:17,613 --> 01:05:18,714
we're never going to solve this

1652
01:05:18,781 --> 01:05:22,985
problem. I'm sure for I first of

1653
01:05:23,052 --> 01:05:25,621
all I. I don't disagree that the

1654
01:05:25,688 --> 01:05:27,390
state's men's puts roadblocks in

1655
01:05:27,456 --> 01:05:30,159
the way right and some of the

1656
01:05:30,226 --> 01:05:31,193
work I've done. Has addressed on

1657
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:32,895
some of the issues that you've

1658
01:05:32,962 --> 01:05:34,563
that you've reyes I don't

1659
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:35,898
disagree with what I do disagree

1660
01:05:35,965 --> 01:05:37,733
with is suggest that only the

1661
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,669
state because we know that when

1662
01:05:39,735 --> 01:05:41,504
cities say. You're not allowed

1663
01:05:41,570 --> 01:05:42,438
to build any housing in this

1664
01:05:42,505 --> 01:05:44,540
area where you can build multi

1665
01:05:44,607 --> 01:05:46,108
unit over nocturnal we're gonna

1666
01:05:46,175 --> 01:05:47,710
reject all affordable housing

1667
01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:48,978
there are extractions that

1668
01:05:49,045 --> 01:05:51,147
happen. At the local level two

1669
01:05:51,213 --> 01:05:53,582
unfortunately. We have passed

1670
01:05:53,649 --> 01:05:54,583
streamlining bills no losses

1671
01:05:54,650 --> 01:05:56,819
since I've been here which is a

1672
01:05:56,886 --> 01:05:58,654
little over six years of. That

1673
01:05:58,721 --> 01:05:59,722
have been very successful in-

1674
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:01,490
you know for example the next to

1675
01:06:01,557 --> 01:06:03,559
we're gonna you're gonna hear

1676
01:06:03,626 --> 01:06:04,493
that there are a for affordable

1677
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:05,594
housing. The approval time goes

1678
01:06:05,661 --> 01:06:06,829
from several years to several

1679
01:06:06,896 --> 01:06:09,799
months- so- I partially agree

1680
01:06:09,865 --> 01:06:10,766
with you but I partially

1681
01:06:10,833 --> 01:06:12,668
disagree. Right and I understand

1682
01:06:12,735 --> 01:06:15,738
that. But mine be mindful that.

1683
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:17,907
local agencies especially newer

1684
01:06:17,973 --> 01:06:20,576
cities. Were all made to go

1685
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:21,844
through an x. Currently

1686
01:06:21,911 --> 01:06:23,813
expensive process doing a

1687
01:06:23,879 --> 01:06:26,048
general plan is a- is a long

1688
01:06:26,115 --> 01:06:28,150
process it takes probably three

1689
01:06:28,217 --> 01:06:29,585
to four or five years sometimes.

1690
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:32,054
cost millions of dollars for the

1691
01:06:32,121 --> 01:06:33,622
community and it's all based on

1692
01:06:33,689 --> 01:06:34,857
what they're being told by the

1693
01:06:34,924 --> 01:06:37,326
state there general plan has to

1694
01:06:37,393 --> 01:06:43,799
include. And. So they include

1695
01:06:43,866 --> 01:06:45,768
all those things. Then there

1696
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:47,636
give the bad of gray. That need

1697
01:06:47,703 --> 01:06:48,704
to be in for people to be to

1698
01:06:48,771 --> 01:06:50,806
come in and build. And then we

1699
01:06:50,873 --> 01:06:52,174
tell cities. Hey you guys are

1700
01:06:52,241 --> 01:06:54,310
doing your job. Searches do and

1701
01:06:54,377 --> 01:06:55,511
what we are they were told to

1702
01:06:55,578 --> 01:06:57,313
do. And now we're we're coming

1703
01:06:57,380 --> 01:06:58,681
out- with this exemption in that

1704
01:06:58,748 --> 01:06:59,749
exemption. To tell them that hey

1705
01:06:59,815 --> 01:07:02,084
you know what you guys are doing

1706
01:07:02,151 --> 01:07:03,419
your job you're not letting

1707
01:07:03,486 --> 01:07:03,986
these things through. They

1708
01:07:04,053 --> 01:07:06,389
can't. They can't by law because

1709
01:07:06,455 --> 01:07:07,890
that's when the third element of

1710
01:07:07,957 --> 01:07:09,024
this comes and that's the

1711
01:07:09,091 --> 01:07:12,461
lawsuit that comes at the end of

1712
01:07:12,528 --> 01:07:13,963
the parade. It just stop

1713
01:07:14,029 --> 01:07:15,965
everything. And we if we don't

1714
01:07:16,031 --> 01:07:18,567
fix that we're not going to fix

1715
01:07:18,634 --> 01:07:20,136
this problem and that's I I'm

1716
01:07:20,202 --> 01:07:23,906
I'm kind of tired of. Throwing

1717
01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:26,976
throwing solutions at the

1718
01:07:27,042 --> 01:07:28,511
problem there aren't working.

1719
01:07:28,577 --> 01:07:29,612
because we're not looking at the

1720
01:07:29,678 --> 01:07:31,480
underlying problem site. I

1721
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:33,783
always use fire service got.

1722
01:07:33,849 --> 01:07:35,718
it's like alejo's above the fire

1723
01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:37,453
and letting it go over it looks

1724
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,656
really cool. But it's not put

1725
01:07:40,723 --> 01:07:42,291
the fire out. We need to aim the

1726
01:07:42,358 --> 01:07:44,560
hose at the right place and

1727
01:07:44,627 --> 01:07:45,528
that's the base of the fire and

1728
01:07:45,594 --> 01:07:47,263
we simply aren't doing that. And

1729
01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:48,864
I understand we keep doing it a

1730
01:07:48,931 --> 01:07:50,900
little here and a little their-

1731
01:07:50,966 --> 01:07:53,102
but we're not doing it otherwise

1732
01:07:53,169 --> 01:07:54,303
everybody would be working.

1733
01:07:54,370 --> 01:07:56,605
because we have so much stuff

1734
01:07:56,672 --> 01:07:58,574
that needs to be done this is

1735
01:07:58,641 --> 01:08:01,744
aiming right at the fire. Press

1736
01:08:01,811 --> 01:08:03,679
well I was a firefighter I'd say

1737
01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:05,848
this is being at the top of the

1738
01:08:05,915 --> 01:08:08,684
flames like preach it you're a-

1739
01:08:08,751 --> 01:08:13,088
assessment. Thank you. There is

1740
01:08:13,155 --> 01:08:16,559
a- thank you centers they are to

1741
01:08:16,625 --> 01:08:19,595
do we any other. Comments

1742
01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:20,896
questions about center to cover

1743
01:08:20,963 --> 01:08:23,799
year please. I don't any any-

1744
01:08:23,866 --> 01:08:25,935
questions I just want to be able

1745
01:08:26,001 --> 01:08:27,269
to frame what I think is an

1746
01:08:27,336 --> 01:08:30,406
unfortunate. Duration and I know

1747
01:08:30,473 --> 01:08:34,009
senator wiener has. Has you know

1748
01:08:34,076 --> 01:08:35,778
grappled with this as well-

1749
01:08:35,845 --> 01:08:36,979
there is no question that we

1750
01:08:37,046 --> 01:08:39,415
have a housing crisis in.

1751
01:08:39,482 --> 01:08:41,417
california I think we all agree

1752
01:08:41,484 --> 01:08:43,018
and what we disagree at that you

1753
01:08:43,085 --> 01:08:44,887
know what's that absolute

1754
01:08:44,954 --> 01:08:46,989
perfect solution there isn't any

1755
01:08:47,056 --> 01:08:48,624
we've got to try to chip away

1756
01:08:48,691 --> 01:08:51,193
little by little. That the

1757
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:53,429
things that will actually make a

1758
01:08:53,496 --> 01:08:54,930
difference and I really

1759
01:08:54,997 --> 01:08:56,866
appreciate this year- let me

1760
01:08:56,932 --> 01:08:58,033
just say that I've supported

1761
01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:59,635
this bill in the past and I

1762
01:08:59,702 --> 01:09:00,669
really appreciated this year

1763
01:09:00,736 --> 01:09:03,739
the- the religious institutions

1764
01:09:03,806 --> 01:09:06,175
being here because- this is

1765
01:09:06,242 --> 01:09:08,277
going. To provide an

1766
01:09:08,344 --> 01:09:10,980
opportunity. For outreach into

1767
01:09:11,046 --> 01:09:13,716
the community to build housing

1768
01:09:13,782 --> 01:09:15,684
that's desperately needed and in

1769
01:09:15,751 --> 01:09:18,554
communities that may have been

1770
01:09:18,621 --> 01:09:20,456
the most recalcitrant about

1771
01:09:20,523 --> 01:09:22,291
building affordable housing my

1772
01:09:22,358 --> 01:09:23,993
experience serving in local

1773
01:09:24,059 --> 01:09:28,197
government- is that- I'm- being

1774
01:09:28,264 --> 01:09:29,565
the mayor of a blue collar

1775
01:09:29,632 --> 01:09:31,934
community. We built housing

1776
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:32,968
affordable housing in our

1777
01:09:33,035 --> 01:09:35,037
communities but thirty miles

1778
01:09:35,104 --> 01:09:37,506
away from us twenty miles away

1779
01:09:37,573 --> 01:09:38,574
from us the wealthier

1780
01:09:38,641 --> 01:09:39,642
communities. Abrogated the

1781
01:09:39,708 --> 01:09:42,111
responsibility and did not build

1782
01:09:42,177 --> 01:09:43,913
affordable housing at all. And

1783
01:09:43,979 --> 01:09:46,215
so it really put a lot of

1784
01:09:46,282 --> 01:09:47,483
pressure on those fund that

1785
01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:50,753
represented- I'm from a rural

1786
01:09:50,819 --> 01:09:52,288
agricultural community. You know

1787
01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:54,456
put a lot of pressure on us so

1788
01:09:54,523 --> 01:09:57,092
the more that we can change the

1789
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:57,927
entire community and to do it

1790
01:09:57,993 --> 01:10:00,696
through- this bill I think it's-

1791
01:10:00,763 --> 01:10:02,531
a really important thing. Let me

1792
01:10:02,598 --> 01:10:07,636
just say that- I'm really sad.

1793
01:10:07,703 --> 01:10:09,905
and- the- at the disagree b. The

1794
01:10:09,972 --> 01:10:14,343
different- unions- I'm I'm I'm

1795
01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:17,279
there with you. By I want. To

1796
01:10:17,346 --> 01:10:19,415
have union protections want to

1797
01:10:19,481 --> 01:10:21,317
make sure we have good paying

1798
01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:22,785
jobs and that we're doing

1799
01:10:22,851 --> 01:10:24,687
everything we can to lift up the

1800
01:10:24,753 --> 01:10:28,490
work- and the workers both

1801
01:10:28,557 --> 01:10:30,793
because- quite frankly a lot of

1802
01:10:30,859 --> 01:10:32,828
these- housing units are are

1803
01:10:32,895 --> 01:10:34,530
going to be starter homes for

1804
01:10:34,597 --> 01:10:37,333
union members to be able to get

1805
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:38,567
into and build. Build wealth and

1806
01:10:38,634 --> 01:10:39,568
leave something to their

1807
01:10:39,635 --> 01:10:42,104
families and so this is really

1808
01:10:42,171 --> 01:10:43,372
really important. But but the-

1809
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,808
but the battle over the language

1810
01:10:45,874 --> 01:10:48,677
has me you know very concerned-

1811
01:10:48,744 --> 01:10:51,714
I don't. I don't want to be the

1812
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:53,616
this is a housing bill. And it's

1813
01:10:53,682 --> 01:10:56,318
got some. Huge impacts on the

1814
01:10:56,385 --> 01:10:58,554
labor community but but I want

1815
01:10:58,621 --> 01:10:59,455
to hope that there's a sweet

1816
01:10:59,521 --> 01:11:01,890
spot where we can get to yes and

1817
01:11:01,957 --> 01:11:03,759
so there I think are many of us

1818
01:11:03,826 --> 01:11:05,661
here at the dyess- that want to

1819
01:11:05,728 --> 01:11:08,197
see. The disagreements between

1820
01:11:08,263 --> 01:11:10,399
the trades and the carpenters

1821
01:11:10,466 --> 01:11:12,368
resolve so that we can have a

1822
01:11:12,434 --> 01:11:14,103
happy peace and I'll be here

1823
01:11:14,169 --> 01:11:16,271
together and- hold hands and-

1824
01:11:16,338 --> 01:11:18,540
and move forward I don't want to

1825
01:11:18,607 --> 01:11:19,608
be killing housing bills

1826
01:11:19,675 --> 01:11:22,645
because- we can agree on things

1827
01:11:22,711 --> 01:11:24,413
like I just don't this is such a

1828
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,682
critical issue that- we can't

1829
01:11:26,749 --> 01:11:29,485
wait any longer. And so- I'm

1830
01:11:29,551 --> 01:11:31,687
going to ask them senator wiener

1831
01:11:31,754 --> 01:11:33,722
if he's willing to continue to

1832
01:11:33,789 --> 01:11:35,791
sit at the table and to try to

1833
01:11:35,858 --> 01:11:37,326
work this thing out this comes

1834
01:11:37,393 --> 01:11:39,328
aye. Aye sure the next committee

1835
01:11:39,395 --> 01:11:42,665
that disclosed to and- and like

1836
01:11:42,731 --> 01:11:44,533
I said I don't want to be

1837
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,367
killing housing bills we

1838
01:11:45,434 --> 01:11:46,835
desperately need to work and we

1839
01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:52,307
need the units. So. Center

1840
01:11:52,374 --> 01:11:53,876
wiener. Thank you very much

1841
01:11:53,942 --> 01:11:55,544
center caballero. This one is

1842
01:11:55,611 --> 01:11:57,980
that. First of all on the point

1843
01:11:58,047 --> 01:12:00,482
you made which is a- is that

1844
01:12:00,549 --> 01:12:02,051
this bill. Will significan

1845
01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:03,819
percent of this land is and what

1846
01:12:03,886 --> 01:12:05,421
call high. Community so we're

1847
01:12:05,487 --> 01:12:07,089
not just only put. We're

1848
01:12:07,156 --> 01:12:08,390
spreading and it's going be a

1849
01:12:08,457 --> 01:12:09,858
lower can higher income. Because

1850
01:12:09,925 --> 01:12:11,727
we need a housing- everywhere.

1851
01:12:11,794 --> 01:12:14,029
in terms of the labor split I do

1852
01:12:14,096 --> 01:12:16,265
want to cry there was one caller

1853
01:12:16,331 --> 01:12:17,166
from my- uncertain or union

1854
01:12:17,232 --> 01:12:19,101
leader in the mice. Our

1855
01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,803
community who only one- union

1856
01:12:20,869 --> 01:12:22,371
was support this bill numbers

1857
01:12:22,438 --> 01:12:26,475
are that. Card the operating and

1858
01:12:26,542 --> 01:12:28,277
laborers I see you and the

1859
01:12:28,343 --> 01:12:29,945
school and- associates just

1860
01:12:30,012 --> 01:12:37,252
correct the record on the. None

1861
01:12:37,319 --> 01:12:39,922
of none of us like. Labor later

1862
01:12:39,988 --> 01:12:42,458
fights happens. Sometimes in the

1863
01:12:42,524 --> 01:12:44,226
- it's happening here hi mike I

1864
01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,628
can aye all to. Trade sponsored

1865
01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:49,098
bill. Last year I also to bill

1866
01:12:49,164 --> 01:12:50,999
last year public work bills with

1867
01:12:51,066 --> 01:12:53,635
skilled workforce. Hi and- it's

1868
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:56,338
not for me either to be a us but

1869
01:12:56,405 --> 01:12:58,173
I do want to see. Because this

1870
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,109
issue pop up three years ago and

1871
01:13:00,175 --> 01:13:01,543
especially with respect to a

1872
01:13:01,610 --> 01:13:02,811
hundred affordable was the years

1873
01:13:02,878 --> 01:13:06,515
ago. With the products of the sb

1874
01:13:06,582 --> 01:13:08,584
nine nine. For three. Five to

1875
01:13:08,650 --> 01:13:10,486
trades until until in the face

1876
01:13:10,552 --> 01:13:12,688
that I want to resolve this. But

1877
01:13:12,755 --> 01:13:14,356
I want people to the table- so

1878
01:13:14,423 --> 01:13:16,959
we can resolve. And it takes to

1879
01:13:17,025 --> 01:13:21,497
tango- and the trade. Respectful

1880
01:13:21,563 --> 01:13:28,137
have not changed. One inch.

1881
01:13:28,203 --> 01:13:30,806
since .com I withdraw hunter

1882
01:13:30,873 --> 01:13:32,775
three ago and- of twenty- we did

1883
01:13:32,841 --> 01:13:35,077
have slight in a six. With the

1884
01:13:35,144 --> 01:13:37,846
agreement- to the better which

1885
01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:40,048
is called work. I offered

1886
01:13:40,115 --> 01:13:41,016
beginning I suggest to committee

1887
01:13:41,083 --> 01:13:43,285
it ab twenty as six. Kind of

1888
01:13:43,352 --> 01:13:44,453
wrestle like with year and I

1889
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,088
told no that's no low support

1890
01:13:46,155 --> 01:13:50,159
that. Chris I'm just observing-

1891
01:13:50,225 --> 01:13:51,560
we're I am my doors always open

1892
01:13:51,627 --> 01:13:53,395
I met with mr meredith to weeks

1893
01:13:53,462 --> 01:13:54,763
ago. I'm happy to continue

1894
01:13:54,830 --> 01:13:56,064
meeting under the carpenters

1895
01:13:56,131 --> 01:13:57,633
what we're willing to bring

1896
01:13:57,699 --> 01:13:58,734
everyone to the table to try to

1897
01:13:58,801 --> 01:14:00,435
resolve this. In a way that will

1898
01:14:00,502 --> 01:14:06,208
actually get housing bills- but

1899
01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:09,344
it does take two to tango. Thank

1900
01:14:09,411 --> 01:14:11,980
you senator wiener. Us will help

1901
01:14:12,047 --> 01:14:15,117
thank and if you center kabir- I

1902
01:14:15,184 --> 01:14:17,753
wanted to ask senator wiener. Is

1903
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:18,787
about this bill just so the

1904
01:14:18,854 --> 01:14:21,356
public is informed- can you

1905
01:14:21,423 --> 01:14:23,892
explain the portability- to this

1906
01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:25,527
particular bill. For this bill

1907
01:14:25,594 --> 01:14:29,865
only a 100% below market rate-

1908
01:14:29,932 --> 01:14:32,234
this only applies 2100% below

1909
01:14:32,301 --> 01:14:34,036
below market rate highs so and-

1910
01:14:34,102 --> 01:14:37,105
it can have- a small percentage

1911
01:14:37,172 --> 01:14:38,807
of eighty to a hundred and

1912
01:14:38,874 --> 01:14:40,475
twenty percent. Am I which is

1913
01:14:40,542 --> 01:14:41,910
considered moderate income below

1914
01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:43,345
market rate housing with the

1915
01:14:43,412 --> 01:14:45,881
bulk of the day under eighty

1916
01:14:45,948 --> 01:14:47,716
percent- low very very low

1917
01:14:47,783 --> 01:14:49,384
extremely low the average. Am I

1918
01:14:49,451 --> 01:14:51,920
always must be 80% or lower. We

1919
01:14:51,987 --> 01:14:53,856
also know that because of the

1920
01:14:53,922 --> 01:14:57,025
nature of- the state for the

1921
01:14:57,092 --> 01:14:57,960
housing funding streams as an

1922
01:14:58,026 --> 01:14:59,695
incentive to make sure that you

1923
01:14:59,761 --> 01:15:01,563
have. Some of the very low and

1924
01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:03,532
extremely low- income housing

1925
01:15:03,599 --> 01:15:05,033
and these projects as a big

1926
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:07,069
financial incentive to do that-

1927
01:15:07,135 --> 01:15:08,804
so we are actually making sure

1928
01:15:08,871 --> 01:15:10,505
that were housing. Other people

1929
01:15:10,572 --> 01:15:11,740
who were in the most desperate

1930
01:15:11,807 --> 01:15:13,642
need. For a but this bill only

1931
01:15:13,709 --> 01:15:15,410
applies to a 100% deed

1932
01:15:15,477 --> 01:15:16,678
restricted below market rate

1933
01:15:16,745 --> 01:15:18,180
housing okay my second question

1934
01:15:18,247 --> 01:15:20,782
was the restricted- and then as

1935
01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:24,086
as far as- it. The conversation

1936
01:15:24,152 --> 01:15:27,589
regarding. The labor disputes- I

1937
01:15:27,656 --> 01:15:29,691
think it's very challenging when

1938
01:15:29,758 --> 01:15:31,560
you know the majority of us do

1939
01:15:31,627 --> 01:15:32,527
you want to support working

1940
01:15:32,594 --> 01:15:33,829
people getting paid fairly and

1941
01:15:33,896 --> 01:15:35,731
much more I know that that is a

1942
01:15:35,797 --> 01:15:37,733
deep deep concern of the larger

1943
01:15:37,799 --> 01:15:39,167
body- this is the housing

1944
01:15:39,234 --> 01:15:40,469
committee and I do just want to

1945
01:15:40,535 --> 01:15:43,138
frankly state. That if there's a

1946
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:44,239
disagreement we have to

1947
01:15:44,306 --> 01:15:46,508
prioritize affordability. Rate

1948
01:15:46,575 --> 01:15:49,011
and so I do just want to state

1949
01:15:49,077 --> 01:15:51,613
that- I do second- center to

1950
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,248
cover your was concerns and if

1951
01:15:53,315 --> 01:15:55,150
there is a conversation and I do

1952
01:15:55,217 --> 01:15:56,985
believe from both- sites or any

1953
01:15:57,052 --> 01:15:59,121
to be good faith effort to come

1954
01:15:59,187 --> 01:16:00,355
together. Otherwise we will be

1955
01:16:00,422 --> 01:16:02,724
prioritizing affordability right

1956
01:16:02,791 --> 01:16:04,660
and- that is one of the biggest

1957
01:16:04,726 --> 01:16:10,933
concerns that. I have is that we

1958
01:16:10,999 --> 01:16:11,934
are not developing and off low

1959
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,568
and extremely low. How across

1960
01:16:13,635 --> 01:16:14,536
the board. So- I will supporting

1961
01:16:14,603 --> 01:16:17,139
but I was still stressing very

1962
01:16:17,205 --> 01:16:18,507
that- you know affordability is

1963
01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:20,475
very. Important to me but also

1964
01:16:20,542 --> 01:16:22,444
making sure that all all members

1965
01:16:22,511 --> 01:16:25,881
of. Labor are on the same page-

1966
01:16:25,948 --> 01:16:27,816
moving forward hopefully so.

1967
01:16:27,883 --> 01:16:29,484
thank you and that's all my

1968
01:16:29,551 --> 01:16:32,721
questions. Thank you several. We

1969
01:16:32,788 --> 01:16:34,556
also have center cortese

1970
01:16:34,623 --> 01:16:35,824
supposed several senator breaks

1971
01:16:35,891 --> 01:16:39,928
here. Three parties in the

1972
01:16:39,995 --> 01:16:40,996
senator please bear. With the

1973
01:16:41,063 --> 01:16:43,799
manager- I'm just going to make

1974
01:16:43,865 --> 01:16:45,600
a couple calls are. Of the

1975
01:16:45,667 --> 01:16:51,306
author wants to. No although-

1976
01:16:51,373 --> 01:16:53,241
full disclaimer intent to now a

1977
01:16:53,308 --> 01:16:54,276
couple questions so

1978
01:16:54,343 --> 01:16:56,778
particularly- of witnesses and

1979
01:16:56,845 --> 01:16:58,280
those are here to answer

1980
01:16:58,347 --> 01:16:59,982
questions. About work for

1981
01:17:00,048 --> 01:17:01,450
standards- when we get to the

1982
01:17:01,516 --> 01:17:03,952
next bill so I don't wanna be

1983
01:17:04,019 --> 01:17:05,754
redundant. Of basically do this

1984
01:17:05,821 --> 01:17:11,393
twice- but my concern- first of

1985
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:13,528
all let me put me. Back up to

1986
01:17:13,595 --> 01:17:14,663
submit it and say the senator

1987
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:17,065
wiener as- the as the author you

1988
01:17:17,132 --> 01:17:19,368
know thank you. For all of your

1989
01:17:19,434 --> 01:17:22,104
work landmark legislation in the

1990
01:17:22,170 --> 01:17:24,072
area of streamlining- and

1991
01:17:24,139 --> 01:17:25,741
working through what just a few

1992
01:17:25,807 --> 01:17:27,576
years ago was. Really

1993
01:17:27,642 --> 01:17:31,446
untouchable topic which is-

1994
01:17:31,513 --> 01:17:34,082
getting that seek work in in the

1995
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:36,752
use of seek work- in some places

1996
01:17:36,818 --> 01:17:39,488
in some ways as as an obstacle

1997
01:17:39,554 --> 01:17:40,655
to the housing production you

1998
01:17:40,722 --> 01:17:43,191
nice served- at the regional

1999
01:17:43,258 --> 01:17:45,394
level in in our own bay area

2000
01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:47,629
community- working through the

2001
01:17:47,696 --> 01:17:49,297
renewal process I saw you first

2002
01:17:49,364 --> 01:17:51,266
hand how frustrated you were.

2003
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:52,968
and I know that you're- also a

2004
01:17:53,035 --> 01:17:54,002
personal environmentally

2005
01:17:54,069 --> 01:17:55,604
conscious that you're a

2006
01:17:55,670 --> 01:17:57,439
concerned about the colocation

2007
01:17:57,506 --> 01:18:00,609
or lack there of- of affordable

2008
01:18:00,675 --> 01:18:02,177
housing and jobs which is. A

2009
01:18:02,244 --> 01:18:03,812
tremendous concern in you know

2010
01:18:03,879 --> 01:18:05,847
in our own area city so one

2011
01:18:05,914 --> 01:18:07,749
eight knowledge all that as well

2012
01:18:07,816 --> 01:18:09,918
as- the obviously the- the

2013
01:18:09,985 --> 01:18:11,987
excellent work to your committee

2014
01:18:12,054 --> 01:18:15,357
stuff. Does in- assisting you in

2015
01:18:15,424 --> 01:18:17,659
in producing this work product.

2016
01:18:17,726 --> 01:18:19,428
I've relied upon the myself at

2017
01:18:19,494 --> 01:18:21,463
times over the last couple of

2018
01:18:21,530 --> 01:18:27,502
years so thank you for all that-

2019
01:18:27,569 --> 01:18:30,572
similar to- as- bureaus. Of

2020
01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:33,341
course- know you will expect

2021
01:18:33,408 --> 01:18:34,443
this is a maybe we've talked

2022
01:18:34,509 --> 01:18:36,278
about it- I'm a co author on

2023
01:18:36,344 --> 01:18:38,447
this bill I call through the

2024
01:18:38,513 --> 01:18:39,414
bill in the whole. You know that

2025
01:18:39,481 --> 01:18:41,750
we would be able to through the

2026
01:18:41,817 --> 01:18:43,118
course of the session here get

2027
01:18:43,185 --> 01:18:45,020
to the right place in terms of.

2028
01:18:45,087 --> 01:18:51,626
of work for standards- I do. I

2029
01:18:51,693 --> 01:18:55,497
believe that it takes. You know

2030
01:18:55,564 --> 01:18:58,600
two to tango so to speak- but it

2031
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:00,569
would say the same time and it

2032
01:19:00,635 --> 01:19:03,138
said the says as a labor chaired

2033
01:19:03,205 --> 01:19:03,738
different committee different

2034
01:19:03,805 --> 01:19:05,907
jurisdiction- that that's just

2035
01:19:05,974 --> 01:19:08,410
not. That doesn't fall solely on

2036
01:19:08,477 --> 01:19:11,079
from the building trades council

2037
01:19:11,146 --> 01:19:14,483
it falls on. Both parties coming

2038
01:19:14,549 --> 01:19:17,018
forward sitting down. In the in

2039
01:19:17,085 --> 01:19:19,187
hashing through. What doesn't

2040
01:19:19,254 --> 01:19:21,456
work or what won't work here or

2041
01:19:21,523 --> 01:19:23,291
what hasn't worked in the past-

2042
01:19:23,358 --> 01:19:26,061
in a note your concern is. A

2043
01:19:26,128 --> 01:19:27,629
concern about what hasn't worked

2044
01:19:27,696 --> 01:19:29,865
in the past got to try something

2045
01:19:29,931 --> 01:19:31,500
different I think that's- very

2046
01:19:31,566 --> 01:19:34,136
much a carpenter's concern as

2047
01:19:34,202 --> 01:19:37,539
well- that said. For me

2048
01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:40,108
fortunately during the course

2049
01:19:40,175 --> 01:19:46,181
of. Of the run of this bill- the

2050
01:19:46,248 --> 01:19:48,116
issues about. The lack of this

2051
01:19:48,183 --> 01:19:50,585
language in in my humble opinion

2052
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:53,188
again that's for sure of labor

2053
01:19:53,255 --> 01:19:53,722
committing somebody gets

2054
01:19:53,788 --> 01:19:56,124
immersed in this stuff day in

2055
01:19:56,191 --> 01:19:58,460
and day out- the current

2056
01:19:58,527 --> 01:19:59,995
language doesn't drive

2057
01:20:00,061 --> 01:20:02,297
apprenticeship- been and isn't

2058
01:20:02,364 --> 01:20:04,733
going to lead to a trained

2059
01:20:04,799 --> 01:20:05,500
workforce. It obviously won't

2060
01:20:05,567 --> 01:20:07,836
lead to application of a trained

2061
01:20:07,903 --> 01:20:09,004
workforce but won't even lead to

2062
01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:11,072
the creation or the building of

2063
01:20:11,139 --> 01:20:12,007
a trained workforce in the

2064
01:20:12,073 --> 01:20:14,209
state. Which the last time I

2065
01:20:14,276 --> 01:20:16,912
checked was lowest per capita of

2066
01:20:16,978 --> 01:20:18,914
all fifty states- in

2067
01:20:18,980 --> 01:20:20,982
apprenticeship programs in

2068
01:20:21,049 --> 01:20:21,683
general not just in

2069
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:23,985
construction. So that has to be

2070
01:20:24,052 --> 01:20:25,320
resolved so that were in

2071
01:20:25,387 --> 01:20:28,890
integrity with the values that.

2072
01:20:28,957 --> 01:20:30,525
it leaves my caucus holds your

2073
01:20:30,592 --> 01:20:33,328
caucus or caucus holds a going

2074
01:20:33,395 --> 01:20:35,430
forward- because that's not what

2075
01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:38,099
we stand for not what we stand

2076
01:20:38,166 --> 01:20:38,633
for in terms of workforce

2077
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:40,802
development- it taking a step

2078
01:20:40,869 --> 01:20:44,873
back is. Is does not okay- so

2079
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:46,508
really. All sides needed come

2080
01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:48,977
forward in a dress all sites are

2081
01:20:49,044 --> 01:20:50,245
not putting that on the author

2082
01:20:50,312 --> 01:20:53,748
se but I do think it's an

2083
01:20:53,815 --> 01:20:54,382
unfortunate. Circumstance of the

2084
01:20:54,449 --> 01:20:57,586
way. We operate as a legislature

2085
01:20:57,652 --> 01:20:59,087
those rules have been here long

2086
01:20:59,154 --> 01:21:01,456
before any of us. That we would

2087
01:21:01,523 --> 01:21:03,325
have a bill whose primary

2088
01:21:03,391 --> 01:21:06,761
contention is labor standards.

2089
01:21:06,828 --> 01:21:09,231
coming because because it's

2090
01:21:09,297 --> 01:21:11,366
also. A very significant housing

2091
01:21:11,433 --> 01:21:12,968
bills but whose primary

2092
01:21:13,034 --> 01:21:14,669
contention is not the housing

2093
01:21:14,736 --> 01:21:16,071
piece in the production piece

2094
01:21:16,137 --> 01:21:17,706
but the labor peace starting

2095
01:21:17,772 --> 01:21:20,976
off. In the in the non labor

2096
01:21:21,042 --> 01:21:22,744
committee and then with all due

2097
01:21:22,811 --> 01:21:24,279
respect to center cut the owes

2098
01:21:24,346 --> 01:21:25,180
report work in government

2099
01:21:25,247 --> 01:21:29,417
finances going their- where. The

2100
01:21:29,484 --> 01:21:30,952
committee staff in in a people

2101
01:21:31,019 --> 01:21:33,088
who focus jurisdiction only on

2102
01:21:33,154 --> 01:21:36,258
issues or are not. Spent not

2103
01:21:36,324 --> 01:21:38,793
spent fifteen or twenty years

2104
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:39,995
twenty five years the working

2105
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:41,429
through these issues in a in a

2106
01:21:41,496 --> 01:21:44,065
professional manner so. That

2107
01:21:44,132 --> 01:21:46,668
also is not on the author or

2108
01:21:46,735 --> 01:21:48,903
this committee of I think it's

2109
01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:49,571
an unfortunate circumstance that

2110
01:21:49,638 --> 01:21:51,273
we have to proceed based on our

2111
01:21:51,339 --> 01:21:52,974
own rules and rules the way

2112
01:21:53,041 --> 01:21:55,677
rules has has a sign bills. In a

2113
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:57,212
way that the deep seas issues

2114
01:21:57,279 --> 01:21:59,848
hanging up before they're in.

2115
01:21:59,914 --> 01:22:02,951
really the proper forum- in the

2116
01:22:03,018 --> 01:22:07,922
proper technical- for a in the

2117
01:22:07,989 --> 01:22:10,659
proper. To get a he know in a

2118
01:22:10,725 --> 01:22:12,894
way that I think would be

2119
01:22:12,961 --> 01:22:14,396
singular in consistent with all

2120
01:22:14,462 --> 01:22:18,066
of our values- consistent with

2121
01:22:18,133 --> 01:22:21,136
all of our values is not to have

2122
01:22:21,202 --> 01:22:25,006
multiple. Multiple standards. On

2123
01:22:25,073 --> 01:22:26,574
residential construction work

2124
01:22:26,641 --> 01:22:28,743
for so frankly work construction

2125
01:22:28,810 --> 01:22:31,212
work force in general. At times

2126
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:33,548
last year. Through no fault of

2127
01:22:33,615 --> 01:22:37,952
anyone here. We had up to five

2128
01:22:38,019 --> 01:22:39,988
different versions of. But

2129
01:22:40,055 --> 01:22:42,190
workforce standards in different

2130
01:22:42,257 --> 01:22:46,594
bills being proposed- in moving

2131
01:22:46,661 --> 01:22:49,097
through the legislature. Again

2132
01:22:49,164 --> 01:22:51,333
without any real attempt to

2133
01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:52,767
consolidate those into a

2134
01:22:52,834 --> 01:22:55,070
statement of what our values

2135
01:22:55,136 --> 01:22:56,771
really are in that regard a

2136
01:22:56,838 --> 01:23:00,442
singular universal standard that

2137
01:23:00,508 --> 01:23:02,110
would apply to this kind of

2138
01:23:02,177 --> 01:23:04,179
work- so as center caballero

2139
01:23:04,245 --> 01:23:06,815
said anything center will have a

2140
01:23:06,881 --> 01:23:09,250
- all. Alluded to at least a one

2141
01:23:09,317 --> 01:23:11,586
per words into her mouth. But my

2142
01:23:11,653 --> 01:23:15,490
vote. Would not be my vote on

2143
01:23:15,557 --> 01:23:18,526
the floor. If we somehow arrived

2144
01:23:18,593 --> 01:23:20,595
all the way to the floor-

2145
01:23:20,662 --> 01:23:22,197
without still having addressed

2146
01:23:22,263 --> 01:23:23,631
all these issues senate

2147
01:23:23,698 --> 01:23:25,967
certainly willing to do my part-

2148
01:23:26,034 --> 01:23:27,869
it's not somebody else's work

2149
01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:30,572
it's all of our work but it has

2150
01:23:30,638 --> 01:23:32,173
to be resolved as far as I'm

2151
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,341
concerned. Before we get to the

2152
01:23:33,408 --> 01:23:35,343
final day of reckoning because

2153
01:23:35,410 --> 01:23:37,245
otherwise I think it puts us in

2154
01:23:37,312 --> 01:23:38,413
the spot. Where people like me

2155
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:41,583
of saying it's okay it's okay to

2156
01:23:41,649 --> 01:23:43,718
have to not know what. What are

2157
01:23:43,785 --> 01:23:47,489
standard really is. In you know

2158
01:23:47,555 --> 01:23:49,090
to move forward bills that

2159
01:23:49,157 --> 01:23:50,725
frankly are at odds with each

2160
01:23:50,792 --> 01:23:52,994
other- maybe your bill my bill

2161
01:23:53,061 --> 01:23:54,796
for example last year was two

2162
01:23:54,863 --> 01:23:56,197
other bills that were at odds

2163
01:23:56,264 --> 01:23:58,066
with each other. We approve them

2164
01:23:58,133 --> 01:24:01,836
both as if. As if. Multiple

2165
01:24:01,903 --> 01:24:05,006
standards- okay in something

2166
01:24:05,073 --> 01:24:07,342
that's- so vital. To creating

2167
01:24:07,409 --> 01:24:09,944
equity in a california for all.

2168
01:24:10,011 --> 01:24:12,580
so since I said more than I

2169
01:24:12,647 --> 01:24:14,416
thought it would on this bill I

2170
01:24:14,482 --> 01:24:17,185
will save us next bill but I do-

2171
01:24:17,252 --> 01:24:18,753
you know we- have a couple

2172
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:22,690
questions we get. To for twenty

2173
01:24:22,757 --> 01:24:24,726
three to ask them- and some of

2174
01:24:24,793 --> 01:24:27,729
the way. Thank you for your work

2175
01:24:27,796 --> 01:24:30,432
. B. And I've today course as is

2176
01:24:30,498 --> 01:24:33,601
- but we forward to resolution.

2177
01:24:33,668 --> 01:24:35,203
thank you you want to stress

2178
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:38,706
when. First first committee is

2179
01:24:38,773 --> 01:24:39,908
literally the first time this

2180
01:24:39,974 --> 01:24:43,645
for ever been and committee.

2181
01:24:43,711 --> 01:24:45,613
great resolve things but first.

2182
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,017
with a twenty who law year it I

2183
01:24:49,083 --> 01:24:50,118
don't think that covers all

2184
01:24:50,185 --> 01:24:53,655
until. August by if my memory.

2185
01:24:53,721 --> 01:24:56,257
serves caballero deeply.

2186
01:24:56,324 --> 01:24:59,127
involved in and I it took a

2187
01:24:59,194 --> 01:25:00,995
right if we can get it resolved

2188
01:25:01,062 --> 01:25:03,264
the flood script I'm I to wanna

2189
01:25:03,331 --> 01:25:05,200
. Since that when this first

2190
01:25:05,266 --> 01:25:07,101
came up three years ago through

2191
01:25:07,168 --> 01:25:08,603
days. I was in the hundred

2192
01:25:08,670 --> 01:25:09,737
office. This like let's to reach

2193
01:25:09,804 --> 01:25:14,542
this and in not. Hasn't move

2194
01:25:14,609 --> 01:25:17,879
since on and I. Mister ability I

2195
01:25:17,946 --> 01:25:19,781
can tell some you have change

2196
01:25:19,848 --> 01:25:20,982
your to try anti takes whatever

2197
01:25:21,049 --> 01:25:23,184
to. They want where the market-

2198
01:25:23,251 --> 01:25:25,587
but you know it it it makes hard

2199
01:25:25,653 --> 01:25:27,422
to go. I'm me I want to this my

2200
01:25:27,489 --> 01:25:32,460
this. Senator place for. Thank

2201
01:25:32,527 --> 01:25:34,596
you. Thank you for the public

2202
01:25:34,662 --> 01:25:36,564
comments from my call and also

2203
01:25:36,631 --> 01:25:38,032
to the for come and speak today

2204
01:25:38,099 --> 01:25:39,200
and express your opinion. And I

2205
01:25:39,267 --> 01:25:40,635
also just to thank the- the

2206
01:25:40,702 --> 01:25:42,103
author senate wiener for this

2207
01:25:42,170 --> 01:25:43,471
bill I think. Five very much

2208
01:25:43,538 --> 01:25:45,573
support this bill I a when I

2209
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:46,474
first saw it and heard the

2210
01:25:46,541 --> 01:25:49,177
concept it seemed to make so

2211
01:25:49,244 --> 01:25:50,111
much sense to me when I. Think

2212
01:25:50,178 --> 01:25:51,546
about my community which I came

2213
01:25:51,613 --> 01:25:52,614
from being the mayor of there

2214
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,449
are so many faith communities-

2215
01:25:54,516 --> 01:25:55,617
that. Would be interested in

2216
01:25:55,683 --> 01:25:56,818
this and they're providing a

2217
01:25:56,885 --> 01:25:58,052
100% affordable for their

2218
01:25:58,119 --> 01:25:59,921
communities so it's a way to

2219
01:25:59,988 --> 01:26:02,590
build community- from within a

2220
01:26:02,657 --> 01:26:04,993
very local can control type of

2221
01:26:05,059 --> 01:26:07,262
structure. And so I think when

2222
01:26:07,328 --> 01:26:09,264
I. Think about why this is so

2223
01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:10,765
needed it really comes back to

2224
01:26:10,832 --> 01:26:12,233
the reality that the low housing

2225
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:14,369
supply in the state which is

2226
01:26:14,435 --> 01:26:15,803
estimated to be two point five

2227
01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:17,572
million units a million of them

2228
01:26:17,639 --> 01:26:19,173
should be need to be affordable

2229
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,142
and the next. Eight to ten

2230
01:26:21,209 --> 01:26:23,411
years- that that problem the low

2231
01:26:23,478 --> 01:26:25,213
the lack of supply is really a

2232
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,648
major driver of our other

2233
01:26:26,714 --> 01:26:29,083
problems in the state like

2234
01:26:29,150 --> 01:26:31,386
homelessness. And a lack of

2235
01:26:31,452 --> 01:26:33,388
upward mobility people's ability

2236
01:26:33,454 --> 01:26:36,357
to access opportunity also- the

2237
01:26:36,424 --> 01:26:38,927
mega commutes that then-

2238
01:26:38,993 --> 01:26:40,795
contribute to climate change. A

2239
01:26:40,862 --> 01:26:42,530
whole bunch of problems that

2240
01:26:42,597 --> 01:26:45,033
really. In my mind swirl around

2241
01:26:45,099 --> 01:26:47,302
this problem of a critically los

2242
01:26:47,368 --> 01:26:50,872
housing supply. So when you-

2243
01:26:50,939 --> 01:26:52,674
when this bill and you also-

2244
01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:55,243
referred to it it could unlock

2245
01:26:55,310 --> 01:26:56,711
thirty eight thousand acres of

2246
01:26:56,778 --> 01:26:58,479
land. And I think that that

2247
01:26:58,546 --> 01:27:00,214
seems like. A really tremendous

2248
01:27:00,281 --> 01:27:01,916
potential to do a lot in our

2249
01:27:01,983 --> 01:27:04,752
state and I'm- I go back to the-

2250
01:27:04,819 --> 01:27:05,887
accountability and oversight

2251
01:27:05,954 --> 01:27:07,455
hearings that we had just. Last

2252
01:27:07,522 --> 01:27:10,658
week about it in this committee-

2253
01:27:10,725 --> 01:27:12,994
and the reality is that housing

2254
01:27:13,061 --> 01:27:15,096
creation remains stagnant. So

2255
01:27:15,163 --> 01:27:16,331
even though in the state we've

2256
01:27:16,397 --> 01:27:18,166
had some really great bills that

2257
01:27:18,232 --> 01:27:19,767
have created streamlining. And

2258
01:27:19,834 --> 01:27:21,336
some bright spots like the

2259
01:27:21,402 --> 01:27:23,671
number eighty is have- gone up

2260
01:27:23,738 --> 01:27:27,609
by a factor of ten but overall

2261
01:27:27,675 --> 01:27:28,876
across the state the great ab

2262
01:27:28,943 --> 01:27:30,511
show that were still. So we're

2263
01:27:30,578 --> 01:27:31,613
real we're not making the

2264
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:33,615
progress we need to if we really

2265
01:27:33,681 --> 01:27:34,916
want to- deal with homelessness

2266
01:27:34,983 --> 01:27:37,285
in a substantive way and- and-

2267
01:27:37,352 --> 01:27:39,253
the middle class- housing

2268
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,588
affordability crisis that we

2269
01:27:40,655 --> 01:27:43,391
see. So I agrees my colleagues

2270
01:27:43,458 --> 01:27:44,926
that I hope these disagreements

2271
01:27:44,993 --> 01:27:46,494
get resolved with labor the

2272
01:27:46,561 --> 01:27:48,596
labor factions and it's very

2273
01:27:48,663 --> 01:27:51,633
painful- to be to be talking to

2274
01:27:51,699 --> 01:27:53,368
your friends and- to see these

2275
01:27:53,434 --> 01:27:55,603
disagreements and- to hope that

2276
01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:56,471
there's a way to find that

2277
01:27:56,537 --> 01:27:58,206
middle ground it is. Clearly

2278
01:27:58,272 --> 01:27:59,974
true that you everybody needs to

2279
01:28:00,041 --> 01:28:01,909
come to the table in good faith

2280
01:28:01,976 --> 01:28:03,378
in order to find those places.

2281
01:28:03,444 --> 01:28:05,046
but really focusing on the need

2282
01:28:05,113 --> 01:28:06,748
for us to create the housing as

2283
01:28:06,814 --> 01:28:10,051
a top priority and to find- fair

2284
01:28:10,118 --> 01:28:12,654
standards that also create good

2285
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,322
jobs and allow people to access.

2286
01:28:14,389 --> 01:28:15,723
a middle class lifestyle you

2287
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:16,891
know all of those things are

2288
01:28:16,958 --> 01:28:18,259
really what we're going for I

2289
01:28:18,326 --> 01:28:20,695
think we should all share those

2290
01:28:20,762 --> 01:28:21,663
values. And so the question is

2291
01:28:21,729 --> 01:28:23,398
how do we get there and hi- have

2292
01:28:23,464 --> 01:28:24,899
every faith in all of the

2293
01:28:24,966 --> 01:28:26,200
negotiating partners that will

2294
01:28:26,267 --> 01:28:28,670
be able to but I also just want

2295
01:28:28,736 --> 01:28:30,505
to say thank you and I'm excited

2296
01:28:30,571 --> 01:28:33,241
to support this bill today.

2297
01:28:33,307 --> 01:28:35,410
thank you- senators- breaks here

2298
01:28:35,476 --> 01:28:38,346
I do have a couple of comments-

2299
01:28:38,413 --> 01:28:40,448
actually more questions. I

2300
01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:41,883
understand that we and

2301
01:28:41,949 --> 01:28:44,886
california is one of the leading

2302
01:28:44,952 --> 01:28:46,254
statements. California is one of

2303
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,488
the leading space when it comes

2304
01:28:47,555 --> 01:28:53,261
to- many areas sleeper- berman

2305
01:28:53,327 --> 01:28:56,097
to laws and you name it we have

2306
01:28:56,164 --> 01:28:57,699
it- I had the privilege to sit

2307
01:28:57,765 --> 01:29:01,703
on labor- committee. These past

2308
01:29:01,769 --> 01:29:03,304
two years with center cortese.

2309
01:29:03,371 --> 01:29:07,175
and I think popped into my head

2310
01:29:07,241 --> 01:29:08,843
with regards to- some of the

2311
01:29:08,910 --> 01:29:11,012
comments and concerns that we

2312
01:29:11,079 --> 01:29:11,612
saw with bills are going to

2313
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:14,348
committee and- and I'm not sure

2314
01:29:14,415 --> 01:29:16,484
if. Center to you would like to

2315
01:29:16,551 --> 01:29:18,653
comment or not but- it was with

2316
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,457
regards to enforcement. And I

2317
01:29:22,523 --> 01:29:25,393
know that this bill is trying to

2318
01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:27,128
address some of these

2319
01:29:27,195 --> 01:29:28,796
conservative from some of the

2320
01:29:28,863 --> 01:29:30,732
safety concerns- but with

2321
01:29:30,798 --> 01:29:35,670
regards to enforcement- how.

2322
01:29:35,737 --> 01:29:36,871
what elements are components you

2323
01:29:36,938 --> 01:29:38,873
have here. Yeah they've cards

2324
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:42,977
within that scope. Yes

2325
01:29:43,044 --> 01:29:45,646
absolutely it we there is a in

2326
01:29:45,713 --> 01:29:47,749
the can and with wait staff.

2327
01:29:47,815 --> 01:29:50,251
clinical plenty of ca. That do

2328
01:29:50,318 --> 01:29:51,719
follow the law and to the right

2329
01:29:51,786 --> 01:29:53,921
thing for the workers they're

2330
01:29:53,988 --> 01:29:56,157
all. We have we stuffed issues

2331
01:29:56,224 --> 01:29:58,459
in this. And so this bill

2332
01:29:58,526 --> 01:30:00,461
requires a payment of prevailing

2333
01:30:00,528 --> 01:30:02,196
wage the same prevailing wage

2334
01:30:02,263 --> 01:30:04,866
that you would get in a skilled

2335
01:30:04,932 --> 01:30:05,500
workforce situation. Plus non

2336
01:30:05,566 --> 01:30:07,602
health in and the other

2337
01:30:07,668 --> 01:30:10,238
requirements- and then if there

2338
01:30:10,304 --> 01:30:11,806
is a violation the labor

2339
01:30:11,873 --> 01:30:13,274
commissioner tim force or the

2340
01:30:13,341 --> 01:30:15,143
person whose. Wages of

2341
01:30:15,209 --> 01:30:18,112
installing can enforce it- and

2342
01:30:18,179 --> 01:30:19,847
but I also want to stress that

2343
01:30:19,914 --> 01:30:21,482
for that enforcement sb there

2344
01:30:21,549 --> 01:30:23,985
are this bill is voluntary.

2345
01:30:24,051 --> 01:30:26,788
right now no one no builder a

2346
01:30:26,854 --> 01:30:28,723
church anyone is going is

2347
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:31,425
required to utilize this bill if

2348
01:30:31,492 --> 01:30:32,693
they choose to opt in and

2349
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,595
utilize a spell. And they all

2350
01:30:34,662 --> 01:30:36,264
these provisions including

2351
01:30:36,330 --> 01:30:43,304
enforcement- applied they. Could

2352
01:30:43,371 --> 01:30:45,973
decide to do it. The l. Way and

2353
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:46,607
close to reserve infancy cal.

2354
01:30:46,674 --> 01:30:48,776
and have a sequel los in and

2355
01:30:48,843 --> 01:30:50,411
every else and by if they choose

2356
01:30:50,478 --> 01:30:53,014
to do it- it'll committee or the

2357
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,417
underpaid- your- okay so the are

2358
01:30:56,484 --> 01:30:57,552
. In there is will protect or

2359
01:30:57,618 --> 01:30:59,654
they have recall. If something

2360
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,522
were to happen correct on that

2361
01:31:01,589 --> 01:31:03,090
and it also allows to have

2362
01:31:03,157 --> 01:31:05,059
options and choices for those

2363
01:31:05,126 --> 01:31:08,629
builders for the- local. Okay so

2364
01:31:08,696 --> 01:31:12,266
having said that. I believe we

2365
01:31:12,333 --> 01:31:14,268
have. This will help you with

2366
01:31:14,335 --> 01:31:16,237
like to yes sign I'd come of

2367
01:31:16,304 --> 01:31:23,211
this. Bahrainis and secretary

2368
01:31:23,277 --> 01:31:29,250
what to. Call the roll. Senate

2369
01:31:29,317 --> 01:31:31,085
bill for about win the motion is

2370
01:31:31,152 --> 01:31:32,720
to pass and river to come and

2371
01:31:32,787 --> 01:31:34,322
governor and finance. Wiener

2372
01:31:34,388 --> 01:31:36,991
right wiener hi the troubled by

2373
01:31:37,058 --> 01:31:40,161
the troubled by blix. Hi click

2374
01:31:40,228 --> 01:31:44,232
here hi caballero. Capital hi

2375
01:31:44,298 --> 01:31:48,502
partisi partisi hi my- patea

2376
01:31:48,569 --> 01:31:55,042
they are to. Zero two no skinner

2377
01:31:55,109 --> 01:31:59,413
. Number bob. Bob hi. This is

2378
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:02,583
the world will open here we have

2379
01:32:02,650 --> 01:32:05,419
a sixty one and we're going hold

2380
01:32:05,486 --> 01:32:06,387
the role open for or at members.

2381
01:32:06,454 --> 01:32:08,489
said wiener with july to with

2382
01:32:08,556 --> 01:32:10,591
your sex bill as four three.

2383
01:32:10,658 --> 01:32:11,859
thank you very much financial

2384
01:32:11,926 --> 01:32:13,427
and call and thank for your- is

2385
01:32:13,494 --> 01:32:15,363
a robust. Today I know presents

2386
01:32:15,429 --> 01:32:17,465
in a bill for three which the

2387
01:32:17,531 --> 01:32:19,600
sunset on well I want to tell.

2388
01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:20,835
most successful health laws.

2389
01:32:20,902 --> 01:32:25,006
which is senate bill thirty. And

2390
01:32:25,072 --> 01:32:28,009
. Which is a with the for. Bill

2391
01:32:28,075 --> 01:32:30,211
that I and to ponder sworn day I

2392
01:32:30,278 --> 01:32:32,580
was in the- in twenty six- in

2393
01:32:32,647 --> 01:32:34,348
this build not and way to local

2394
01:32:34,415 --> 01:32:36,517
zoning at all. But it provides

2395
01:32:36,584 --> 01:32:38,185
us approval. In cities are

2396
01:32:38,252 --> 01:32:40,688
falling short of their reason

2397
01:32:40,755 --> 01:32:41,289
housing of such goal and it

2398
01:32:41,355 --> 01:32:43,457
doesn't by income. So you can a

2399
01:32:43,524 --> 01:32:45,493
city becomes strained. Only in

2400
01:32:45,559 --> 01:32:46,127
the categories where it's

2401
01:32:46,193 --> 01:32:47,895
falling short of its goals the

2402
01:32:47,962 --> 01:32:49,897
purpose of sb thirty five and

2403
01:32:49,964 --> 01:32:51,732
that's also as before twenty

2404
01:32:51,799 --> 01:32:52,967
three it's to help cities are

2405
01:32:53,034 --> 01:32:56,103
falling short catch up and meet

2406
01:32:56,170 --> 01:32:57,305
their- our- we've had extensive

2407
01:32:57,371 --> 01:32:58,472
discussions today about the

2408
01:32:58,539 --> 01:33:01,309
profound of shortage- sb thirty

2409
01:33:01,375 --> 01:33:03,577
five- went into effect in twenty

2410
01:33:03,644 --> 01:33:05,479
eighteen it was a slow. Start as

2411
01:33:05,546 --> 01:33:07,648
is often the case of new housing

2412
01:33:07,715 --> 01:33:08,482
bills- and then started

2413
01:33:08,549 --> 01:33:11,052
accelerating almost nearly

2414
01:33:11,118 --> 01:33:12,586
twenty thousand new homes. Have

2415
01:33:12,653 --> 01:33:14,021
either been streamlined or I'm

2416
01:33:14,088 --> 01:33:16,257
process to streamline under sb

2417
01:33:16,324 --> 01:33:18,092
thirty five today hi my city of

2418
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:20,428
san francisco three thousand.

2419
01:33:20,494 --> 01:33:22,663
new homes hi it's been a very

2420
01:33:22,730 --> 01:33:24,265
successful and has dramatically

2421
01:33:24,332 --> 01:33:26,600
reduced the approval time it is

2422
01:33:26,667 --> 01:33:29,370
primarily. Benefitted below

2423
01:33:29,437 --> 01:33:31,572
market rate housing about 75% of

2424
01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:36,377
the of the units- we have- made

2425
01:33:36,444 --> 01:33:38,512
some changes to the bill to make

2426
01:33:38,579 --> 01:33:39,947
sure that the- mixing com

2427
01:33:40,014 --> 01:33:43,484
element is more- successful- and

2428
01:33:43,551 --> 01:33:45,252
so I'm sure and we just talked

2429
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:47,254
about some of the labor

2430
01:33:47,321 --> 01:33:47,888
standards and perhaps a little

2431
01:33:47,955 --> 01:33:52,760
stunned. Again so colleagues- sb

2432
01:33:52,827 --> 01:33:54,362
thirty five is a it really is I

2433
01:33:54,428 --> 01:33:55,930
think one of our bedrock housing

2434
01:33:55,997 --> 01:33:57,365
laws that expires in a couple

2435
01:33:57,431 --> 01:33:58,599
years we want to remove the

2436
01:33:58,666 --> 01:34:02,003
sunset. Now because people were.

2437
01:34:02,069 --> 01:34:03,671
cities and builders planned

2438
01:34:03,738 --> 01:34:06,340
years in advance- and we don't

2439
01:34:06,407 --> 01:34:08,209
want to wait until the last

2440
01:34:08,275 --> 01:34:10,111
minute. To decide if this bill

2441
01:34:10,177 --> 01:34:11,479
is going to expire that would be

2442
01:34:11,545 --> 01:34:12,813
harmful to the bility of cities

2443
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,017
and builders- to plan five as

2444
01:34:16,083 --> 01:34:18,152
with the last bill- we've

2445
01:34:18,219 --> 01:34:26,227
already had some conversations.

2446
01:34:26,293 --> 01:34:27,328
with the building trades about

2447
01:34:27,395 --> 01:34:30,097
with his bob dot two meetings so

2448
01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:31,899
far. Continue to hope that we be

2449
01:34:31,966 --> 01:34:33,401
able to get to a road. And I

2450
01:34:33,467 --> 01:34:36,003
respect ask. For your I. Boats.

2451
01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:38,039
with you today- tested and- his

2452
01:34:38,105 --> 01:34:40,107
brown solving off of new cal

2453
01:34:40,174 --> 01:34:42,276
carp union. And- you my open

2454
01:34:42,343 --> 01:34:44,445
president of novan about.

2455
01:34:44,512 --> 01:34:46,547
development thank you. Thank you

2456
01:34:46,614 --> 01:34:48,949
senator wiener now move on to

2457
01:34:49,016 --> 01:34:50,518
would and- or I get afternoon

2458
01:34:50,584 --> 01:34:51,819
chair in committee member.

2459
01:34:51,886 --> 01:34:53,387
honored to be here today-

2460
01:34:53,454 --> 01:34:55,790
strongly should- senate bill

2461
01:34:55,856 --> 01:34:56,757
twenty. You know we arts talk

2462
01:34:56,824 --> 01:34:58,659
about a lot we are a serious.

2463
01:34:58,726 --> 01:35:01,095
that housing production- instead

2464
01:35:01,162 --> 01:35:02,463
. I know secret about that at

2465
01:35:02,530 --> 01:35:04,565
every income level what's going

2466
01:35:04,632 --> 01:35:06,367
on at the end house what's going

2467
01:35:06,434 --> 01:35:07,168
a lack workforce housing

2468
01:35:07,234 --> 01:35:09,170
affordable housing but a housing

2469
01:35:09,236 --> 01:35:10,871
and all income levels. There's

2470
01:35:10,938 --> 01:35:13,941
another crisis going on in

2471
01:35:14,008 --> 01:35:14,842
residential. We look at the

2472
01:35:14,909 --> 01:35:16,210
residential industry primarily

2473
01:35:16,277 --> 01:35:18,345
what frame multi family type

2474
01:35:18,412 --> 01:35:19,547
three if you like construction

2475
01:35:19,613 --> 01:35:21,982
the type house we mostly need

2476
01:35:22,049 --> 01:35:23,684
produced. There's over three

2477
01:35:23,751 --> 01:35:24,618
hundred thousand nonunion

2478
01:35:24,685 --> 01:35:29,757
workers in. That work force

2479
01:35:29,824 --> 01:35:30,758
currently. And they are

2480
01:35:30,825 --> 01:35:32,326
exploited talking a little bit.

2481
01:35:32,393 --> 01:35:34,728
and that work force- is not been

2482
01:35:34,795 --> 01:35:37,331
organized we intend to go out

2483
01:35:37,398 --> 01:35:39,467
and with the tools- in this bill

2484
01:35:39,533 --> 01:35:40,634
has the strongest labor

2485
01:35:40,701 --> 01:35:42,236
enforcement language. Of any

2486
01:35:42,303 --> 01:35:43,971
bill we can find or any law

2487
01:35:44,038 --> 01:35:45,439
throughout the county country so

2488
01:35:45,506 --> 01:35:46,941
subtly pervading wages health

2489
01:35:47,007 --> 01:35:48,976
care requirements opportunity

2490
01:35:49,043 --> 01:35:50,277
for friendship but also the

2491
01:35:50,344 --> 01:35:51,579
strongest labor force language

2492
01:35:51,645 --> 01:35:52,746
empowering labor management

2493
01:35:52,813 --> 01:35:54,348
committees to bring justice to

2494
01:35:54,415 --> 01:35:57,151
those jobs. The reality is-

2495
01:35:57,218 --> 01:35:59,854
right now only one in seven

2496
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,922
traits workers in the state of

2497
01:36:01,989 --> 01:36:02,890
california qualify under skilled

2498
01:36:02,957 --> 01:36:04,492
and trained in the residential

2499
01:36:04,558 --> 01:36:07,495
industry. Maybe one in ten and

2500
01:36:07,561 --> 01:36:08,929
of your large residential

2501
01:36:08,996 --> 01:36:11,565
projects so this is not from

2502
01:36:11,632 --> 01:36:12,333
more the carpenters are coming

2503
01:36:12,399 --> 01:36:14,168
from some by having a fight.

2504
01:36:14,235 --> 01:36:15,736
with anyone in the labor

2505
01:36:15,803 --> 01:36:17,104
movement it's about those

2506
01:36:17,171 --> 01:36:18,572
workers out there and it's about

2507
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:20,674
production- sb thirty five

2508
01:36:20,741 --> 01:36:21,709
itself very successful bill

2509
01:36:21,775 --> 01:36:23,744
shows a clearly. The primary

2510
01:36:23,811 --> 01:36:25,446
success sb thirty five required

2511
01:36:25,513 --> 01:36:27,848
prevailing wages to be paid for

2512
01:36:27,915 --> 01:36:29,183
affordable housing production

2513
01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:31,152
below market rate production-

2514
01:36:31,218 --> 01:36:33,487
currently there are. Maybe one

2515
01:36:33,554 --> 01:36:34,722
or two projects will require

2516
01:36:34,788 --> 01:36:35,856
skilled and trained but nothing

2517
01:36:35,923 --> 01:36:37,725
is moved yet no housing is

2518
01:36:37,791 --> 01:36:40,261
happen. So again when it comes

2519
01:36:40,327 --> 01:36:41,695
down to it what we're looking at

2520
01:36:41,762 --> 01:36:46,867
is we will not support any labor

2521
01:36:46,934 --> 01:36:47,434
. Stance refill our scrushy

2522
01:36:47,501 --> 01:36:49,270
neri. We have every into with

2523
01:36:49,336 --> 01:36:50,337
the it's our prime purpose as a

2524
01:36:50,404 --> 01:36:51,338
labor organization construction

2525
01:36:51,405 --> 01:36:52,640
to reach out and help those

2526
01:36:52,706 --> 01:36:55,075
workers pull up into the union

2527
01:36:55,142 --> 01:36:57,545
flag family. We see that

2528
01:36:57,611 --> 01:37:00,915
strongly as pro labor pro union

2529
01:37:00,981 --> 01:37:02,917
standards that are also pro

2530
01:37:02,983 --> 01:37:04,752
housing production again in an

2531
01:37:04,818 --> 01:37:07,421
industry. Than unfortunately

2532
01:37:07,488 --> 01:37:09,857
overall has been ignored. The

2533
01:37:09,924 --> 01:37:11,091
carpenters union is actually the

2534
01:37:11,158 --> 01:37:12,893
largest footprint many labor

2535
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,094
union in the residential

2536
01:37:14,161 --> 01:37:16,797
industry- we have a third of the

2537
01:37:16,864 --> 01:37:17,865
registered apprentices out

2538
01:37:17,932 --> 01:37:20,434
there. And overall all crafts we

2539
01:37:20,501 --> 01:37:21,702
have the most amount skilled and

2540
01:37:21,769 --> 01:37:23,671
trained certified workers it's

2541
01:37:23,737 --> 01:37:26,106
easy to track the numbers- you

2542
01:37:26,173 --> 01:37:27,741
know through elam to send

2543
01:37:27,808 --> 01:37:29,476
everything else but also can the

2544
01:37:29,543 --> 01:37:30,578
d. A. S. Graduation rates so

2545
01:37:30,644 --> 01:37:33,147
again we are absolutely all in.

2546
01:37:33,214 --> 01:37:33,781
for apprenticeship an

2547
01:37:33,847 --> 01:37:36,150
opportunity. But those workers

2548
01:37:36,217 --> 01:37:37,585
that are out there now and we do

2549
01:37:37,651 --> 01:37:39,753
need to increase the work force

2550
01:37:39,820 --> 01:37:40,854
upwards eighty thousand workers

2551
01:37:40,921 --> 01:37:42,556
per year so we not only need the

2552
01:37:42,623 --> 01:37:43,857
current nine you workforce

2553
01:37:43,924 --> 01:37:45,526
residential. We need to grow

2554
01:37:45,593 --> 01:37:47,595
that and grow opportunity. But

2555
01:37:47,661 --> 01:37:49,196
we cannot leave that work force

2556
01:37:49,263 --> 01:37:50,864
out and we need to produce

2557
01:37:50,931 --> 01:37:53,067
housing fast. So with the

2558
01:37:53,133 --> 01:37:55,135
platforms to go out bring

2559
01:37:55,202 --> 01:37:56,904
workers rights on those jobs.

2560
01:37:56,971 --> 01:37:58,806
and grow its the organizing

2561
01:37:58,872 --> 01:38:00,908
opportunity of a lifetime for

2562
01:38:00,975 --> 01:38:02,876
any labor organization. Again

2563
01:38:02,943 --> 01:38:04,578
whether be vying to ensure not

2564
01:38:04,645 --> 01:38:06,247
skilled and trained will exclude

2565
01:38:06,313 --> 01:38:08,449
those dire work for workers and

2566
01:38:08,515 --> 01:38:10,117
will actually screwed about a

2567
01:38:10,184 --> 01:38:11,085
hundred thousand. Union members

2568
01:38:11,151 --> 01:38:12,720
currently in the state of

2569
01:38:12,786 --> 01:38:14,688
california we can't afford that.

2570
01:38:14,755 --> 01:38:16,857
so we appreciate your support on

2571
01:38:16,924 --> 01:38:17,858
this. Remember those workers

2572
01:38:17,925 --> 01:38:18,892
remember we need for you to

2573
01:38:18,959 --> 01:38:20,094
housing to bring solutions to

2574
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,864
our state we strongly support

2575
01:38:23,931 --> 01:38:25,566
this bill thank you. Thank you

2576
01:38:25,633 --> 01:38:26,600
sir. Do you have any other. With

2577
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:37,311
assistance. Yes coming forward.

2578
01:38:37,378 --> 01:38:38,979
good afternoon senate housing

2579
01:38:39,046 --> 01:38:40,347
committee and senator wiener

2580
01:38:40,414 --> 01:38:41,715
thank you for the opportunity

2581
01:38:41,782 --> 01:38:43,884
speech today my name is the mon

2582
01:38:43,951 --> 01:38:45,486
novin I am the president and

2583
01:38:45,552 --> 01:38:47,154
founder of novan development. We

2584
01:38:47,221 --> 01:38:48,889
are a mission driven affordable

2585
01:38:48,956 --> 01:38:51,925
and workforce housing developer

2586
01:38:51,992 --> 01:38:53,160
I'm in the state of california

2587
01:38:53,227 --> 01:38:55,029
we've got approximately fourteen

2588
01:38:55,095 --> 01:38:56,363
projects in over six hundred

2589
01:38:56,430 --> 01:38:58,465
units in the pipeline- serving a

2590
01:38:58,532 --> 01:39:00,634
broad range of incomes. I

2591
01:39:00,701 --> 01:39:02,936
created a novin developments- to

2592
01:39:03,003 --> 01:39:04,672
focus on missing middle housing

2593
01:39:04,738 --> 01:39:06,273
workforce housing is we're very

2594
01:39:06,340 --> 01:39:07,341
much interested in figuring out

2595
01:39:07,408 --> 01:39:09,510
how to make mixed income work as

2596
01:39:09,576 --> 01:39:11,578
you know mostly bills and-

2597
01:39:11,645 --> 01:39:13,147
funding is focused on very low

2598
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:14,548
and low income housing however

2599
01:39:14,615 --> 01:39:15,883
the majority of our population

2600
01:39:15,949 --> 01:39:18,252
is in the missing middle and so-

2601
01:39:18,319 --> 01:39:19,553
were very keenly aware of the

2602
01:39:19,620 --> 01:39:21,822
of. Sb thirty five reviews it on

2603
01:39:21,889 --> 01:39:24,158
two projects- and neither of

2604
01:39:24,224 --> 01:39:25,326
them would have been approved

2605
01:39:25,392 --> 01:39:27,127
without sb thirty five in fact

2606
01:39:27,194 --> 01:39:30,164
we had a- council members- in a

2607
01:39:30,230 --> 01:39:33,300
political environment- working

2608
01:39:33,367 --> 01:39:36,437
to- use a small you know section

2609
01:39:36,503 --> 01:39:38,605
of the bill that allows for a

2610
01:39:38,672 --> 01:39:40,107
council oversight hearing. To

2611
01:39:40,174 --> 01:39:41,675
basically over derail our

2612
01:39:41,742 --> 01:39:43,610
project and stop it from getting

2613
01:39:43,677 --> 01:39:45,879
approved- and so it wasn't it

2614
01:39:45,946 --> 01:39:47,581
was with the help of the

2615
01:39:47,648 --> 01:39:49,883
carpenters union. Him be law.

2616
01:39:49,950 --> 01:39:51,518
act's housing accountability

2617
01:39:51,585 --> 01:39:53,687
unit and sb thirty five that we

2618
01:39:53,754 --> 01:39:56,857
eventually. Got housing approved

2619
01:39:56,924 --> 01:39:57,991
on a site that was entitled for

2620
01:39:58,058 --> 01:40:00,494
housing- so it's a very useful

2621
01:40:00,561 --> 01:40:01,762
building wouldn't who are

2622
01:40:01,829 --> 01:40:02,696
projects would have happened

2623
01:40:02,763 --> 01:40:04,498
without it- it was through this

2624
01:40:04,565 --> 01:40:05,833
implementation that it revealed

2625
01:40:05,899 --> 01:40:07,568
some of the challenges and I

2626
01:40:07,634 --> 01:40:09,269
think some of the improvements

2627
01:40:09,336 --> 01:40:11,038
in sb thirty five- particularly

2628
01:40:11,105 --> 01:40:12,940
around the use for mixed. Income

2629
01:40:13,006 --> 01:40:14,675
housing the labor standards as

2630
01:40:14,742 --> 01:40:17,277
written or more stringent for.

2631
01:40:17,344 --> 01:40:18,879
mixed income projects were let's

2632
01:40:18,946 --> 01:40:20,381
say only half of the project is

2633
01:40:20,447 --> 01:40:22,583
receiving state subsidy. The

2634
01:40:22,649 --> 01:40:23,751
other half is privately finance

2635
01:40:23,817 --> 01:40:25,686
and- labor standards are way

2636
01:40:25,753 --> 01:40:27,521
more difficult to meet so it it

2637
01:40:27,588 --> 01:40:29,289
naturally moves people or

2638
01:40:29,356 --> 01:40:32,126
developers into. Bill building a

2639
01:40:32,192 --> 01:40:33,026
100% affordable housing projects

2640
01:40:33,093 --> 01:40:38,298
because- you're able to leverage

2641
01:40:38,365 --> 01:40:39,466
. The funding for the entire.

2642
01:40:39,533 --> 01:40:41,602
and the cost is lower and so-

2643
01:40:41,668 --> 01:40:42,336
the whole heartedly agreed

2644
01:40:42,403 --> 01:40:43,303
senator cortese there should be

2645
01:40:43,370 --> 01:40:45,706
a single standard across- this

2646
01:40:45,773 --> 01:40:47,608
bill for whether it's mixed

2647
01:40:47,674 --> 01:40:50,043
income or- if it's a 100%

2648
01:40:50,110 --> 01:40:51,512
affordable housing project I

2649
01:40:51,578 --> 01:40:52,613
think that'll- help to

2650
01:40:52,679 --> 01:40:54,415
streamlining create. Missing

2651
01:40:54,481 --> 01:40:55,749
middle housing because it's not

2652
01:40:55,816 --> 01:40:57,484
an either or it's an anti and we

2653
01:40:57,551 --> 01:40:59,286
need. A deeply affordable

2654
01:40:59,353 --> 01:41:00,988
housing but we also need missing

2655
01:41:01,054 --> 01:41:03,257
middle housing- other challenges

2656
01:41:03,323 --> 01:41:04,691
that the council oversight

2657
01:41:04,758 --> 01:41:06,860
hearing I think this makes some

2658
01:41:06,927 --> 01:41:07,895
great changes to that- so it's

2659
01:41:07,961 --> 01:41:10,364
not misused- and then the fact

2660
01:41:10,431 --> 01:41:11,765
that it streamlines the print

2661
01:41:11,832 --> 01:41:13,333
versions permanently so that we

2662
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:14,535
have access to the streamlined

2663
01:41:14,601 --> 01:41:17,237
process beyond twenty twenty

2664
01:41:17,304 --> 01:41:19,072
five is a critical changes that

2665
01:41:19,139 --> 01:41:21,608
we support- ultimately sb. Four

2666
01:41:21,675 --> 01:41:23,177
twenty three also replaces

2667
01:41:23,243 --> 01:41:24,611
restrictive hiring rules with

2668
01:41:24,678 --> 01:41:26,480
high road labor standards for

2669
01:41:26,547 --> 01:41:31,118
all construction workers- and-

2670
01:41:31,185 --> 01:41:33,620
again you know I think- our

2671
01:41:33,687 --> 01:41:35,722
example of our project- the

2672
01:41:35,789 --> 01:41:36,790
skilled and trained workforce

2673
01:41:36,857 --> 01:41:39,126
requirements. Really didn't work

2674
01:41:39,193 --> 01:41:40,727
out and we had to take a project

2675
01:41:40,794 --> 01:41:42,463
that started out as fifty fifty

2676
01:41:42,529 --> 01:41:44,364
affordable housing and turn it

2677
01:41:44,431 --> 01:41:46,166
into a 100% affordable housing

2678
01:41:46,233 --> 01:41:47,634
project- total timidly make it.

2679
01:41:47,701 --> 01:41:51,638
viable so with that- again

2680
01:41:51,705 --> 01:41:53,841
strongly urge you to support-

2681
01:41:53,907 --> 01:41:55,976
this bill today and- happy to

2682
01:41:56,043 --> 01:41:57,811
take any questions thank you for

2683
01:41:57,878 --> 01:42:00,247
your time. Thank you very much

2684
01:42:00,314 --> 01:42:03,217
we're going to hear from

2685
01:42:03,283 --> 01:42:05,285
witnesses in support here in

2686
01:42:05,352 --> 01:42:11,358
room. Twelve hundred. Madam

2687
01:42:11,425 --> 01:42:12,559
chair scott cover about half of

2688
01:42:12,626 --> 01:42:14,094
the construction employers

2689
01:42:14,161 --> 01:42:17,698
association in support thank you

2690
01:42:17,764 --> 01:42:19,399
. Okay I'm terry members karen

2691
01:42:19,466 --> 01:42:20,501
laying on behalf of san

2692
01:42:20,567 --> 01:42:22,469
francisco mayor london breed in

2693
01:42:22,536 --> 01:42:24,972
support thank you. Medicare's

2694
01:42:25,038 --> 01:42:26,373
members michael gunning with

2695
01:42:26,440 --> 01:42:28,408
light house publication airs. On

2696
01:42:28,475 --> 01:42:30,310
behalf was for habitat for

2697
01:42:30,377 --> 01:42:32,279
humanity sand hill property's

2698
01:42:32,346 --> 01:42:34,214
build costs said united way

2699
01:42:34,281 --> 01:42:38,652
greater la thank you. Says

2700
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:40,854
rodriguez- we need housing now a

2701
01:42:40,921 --> 01:42:42,756
carpenters local one fifty two

2702
01:42:42,823 --> 01:42:45,225
member- I live in stockton

2703
01:42:45,292 --> 01:42:47,928
california selma king county. I

2704
01:42:47,995 --> 01:42:51,532
am since support of sb four two

2705
01:42:51,598 --> 01:42:55,469
three thank you. Good afternoon

2706
01:42:55,536 --> 01:42:57,304
my name is laura drastic I'm a

2707
01:42:57,371 --> 01:42:59,072
field representative I'm out of

2708
01:42:59,139 --> 01:43:01,008
the nor cal carpenters union I

2709
01:43:01,074 --> 01:43:03,944
am also proud member of local.

2710
01:43:04,011 --> 01:43:05,412
union four oh five san jose

2711
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,550
california I am is in support of

2712
01:43:09,616 --> 01:43:12,252
four to three. For dr

2713
01:43:12,319 --> 01:43:13,787
sharecroppers local six oh five

2714
01:43:13,854 --> 01:43:15,622
out of monterey county I'm here

2715
01:43:15,689 --> 01:43:18,158
in support of- s. B. Thirty

2716
01:43:18,225 --> 01:43:20,994
forty three thanks very much.

2717
01:43:21,061 --> 01:43:23,497
number matthew miller marco

2718
01:43:23,564 --> 01:43:26,633
carpenters- member. Local ninety

2719
01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:27,701
sixty livermore I live in

2720
01:43:27,768 --> 01:43:29,536
burlingame in minnesota and we

2721
01:43:29,603 --> 01:43:31,238
need affordable housing on the

2722
01:43:31,305 --> 01:43:34,308
peninsula I'm from. I'm fortune

2723
01:43:34,374 --> 01:43:36,577
to live on the peninsula my

2724
01:43:36,643 --> 01:43:37,144
brothers and sisters cannot

2725
01:43:37,210 --> 01:43:39,079
afford to live up there thank

2726
01:43:39,146 --> 01:43:43,750
you. Venture it happens

2727
01:43:43,817 --> 01:43:45,152
carpenters local two seventeen

2728
01:43:45,218 --> 01:43:46,820
nor cal carpenters union we

2729
01:43:46,887 --> 01:43:48,755
represents san matteo county and

2730
01:43:48,822 --> 01:43:51,425
we are in strong support of

2731
01:43:51,491 --> 01:43:52,492
senate bill four twenty three

2732
01:43:52,559 --> 01:43:56,063
thank you for. Good afternoon

2733
01:43:56,129 --> 01:43:58,966
d'amico's carpenters local seven

2734
01:43:59,032 --> 01:44:00,334
fifty one addison- my county

2735
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,936
base there and- representing

2736
01:44:03,003 --> 01:44:04,871
their members and- we are in

2737
01:44:04,938 --> 01:44:08,008
strong support of sb four twenty

2738
01:44:08,075 --> 01:44:12,679
three thank you. Good afternoon

2739
01:44:12,746 --> 01:44:14,915
show majority companies local

2740
01:44:14,982 --> 01:44:16,350
twenty two business agents are

2741
01:44:16,416 --> 01:44:17,684
francisco- northcutt carpenters

2742
01:44:17,751 --> 01:44:19,987
union clout I stand in support

2743
01:44:20,053 --> 01:44:25,125
of- for twenty three thank you.

2744
01:44:25,192 --> 01:44:26,893
good afternoon my name's kyle

2745
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:28,462
swarms of a member of local

2746
01:44:28,528 --> 01:44:29,596
forty six from a representative

2747
01:44:29,663 --> 01:44:32,366
of carpenters local seven fifty

2748
01:44:32,432 --> 01:44:34,501
one thirty five one eighty. And

2749
01:44:34,568 --> 01:44:35,836
one fifty to cover members up in

2750
01:44:35,902 --> 01:44:37,904
humboldt ollie north of san

2751
01:44:37,971 --> 01:44:39,272
francisco and I'm here in favor

2752
01:44:39,339 --> 01:44:41,908
of sp four twenty three thank

2753
01:44:41,975 --> 01:44:45,512
you. Abram d. As a ten ph and

2754
01:44:45,579 --> 01:44:47,080
speak on behalf of my colleagues

2755
01:44:47,147 --> 01:44:48,248
at all home in the silicon

2756
01:44:48,315 --> 01:44:50,317
valley home action fun in strong

2757
01:44:50,384 --> 01:44:51,485
support of this before twenty

2758
01:44:51,551 --> 01:44:54,955
three. Alex revell equipment and

2759
01:44:55,022 --> 01:44:57,557
housing regional for the housing

2760
01:44:57,624 --> 01:44:59,626
developer we're in support of sb

2761
01:44:59,693 --> 01:45:03,964
four twenty three. Selecting

2762
01:45:04,031 --> 01:45:04,965
with the silicon valley

2763
01:45:05,032 --> 01:45:07,000
leadership group in support. By

2764
01:45:07,067 --> 01:45:08,368
the merging with inner city law

2765
01:45:08,435 --> 01:45:10,570
center where skid row's pro bono

2766
01:45:10,637 --> 01:45:11,972
legal service fighter we serve

2767
01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:13,940
folks for homeless and at risk

2768
01:45:14,007 --> 01:45:14,541
of homelessness we are very

2769
01:45:14,608 --> 01:45:18,111
proud to support and sponsor sb

2770
01:45:18,178 --> 01:45:21,415
four twenty three. Brian shields

2771
01:45:21,481 --> 01:45:23,116
power drivers local thirty four

2772
01:45:23,183 --> 01:45:24,351
cover not northern forty six

2773
01:45:24,418 --> 01:45:27,354
counties- probably support sb

2774
01:45:27,421 --> 01:45:32,492
forty three. Madam chair members

2775
01:45:32,559 --> 01:45:33,860
of the committee your then put

2776
01:45:33,927 --> 01:45:36,463
in a kind of a hard a proc I'm

2777
01:45:36,530 --> 01:45:37,631
happy california b. As a proud

2778
01:45:37,698 --> 01:45:40,734
co sponsor in support of sb four

2779
01:45:40,801 --> 01:45:44,971
twenty three thank you so much.

2780
01:45:45,038 --> 01:45:46,740
hello again of two religious

2781
01:45:46,807 --> 01:45:48,408
covers local twenty to thirty

2782
01:45:48,475 --> 01:45:50,343
six out of oakland. Strong

2783
01:45:50,410 --> 01:45:55,082
support of this bill thank you.

2784
01:45:55,148 --> 01:45:56,450
good afternoon shawn he by proud

2785
01:45:56,516 --> 01:45:57,718
member of no cal carpenters

2786
01:45:57,784 --> 01:45:59,786
union five oh five in santa cruz

2787
01:45:59,853 --> 01:46:00,854
santa cruz county in strong

2788
01:46:00,921 --> 01:46:06,193
support of us before. Twenty

2789
01:46:06,259 --> 01:46:07,761
three. Good afternoon chair hang

2790
01:46:07,828 --> 01:46:08,995
committee members my name's john

2791
01:46:09,062 --> 01:46:10,464
bill perry of member of

2792
01:46:10,530 --> 01:46:12,299
carpenters local one eighty in

2793
01:46:12,365 --> 01:46:14,234
solano county a resident of fact

2794
01:46:14,301 --> 01:46:16,737
will strongly support this. Bill

2795
01:46:16,803 --> 01:46:21,141
for twenty three thank. Susan

2796
01:46:21,208 --> 01:46:22,576
setter home a member of san

2797
01:46:22,642 --> 01:46:25,579
francisco you me and a resident

2798
01:46:25,645 --> 01:46:27,814
of low income supportive housing

2799
01:46:27,881 --> 01:46:29,683
. And a mother of millennial

2800
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:31,418
trying to find housing in san

2801
01:46:31,485 --> 01:46:35,255
jose I strongly support this.

2802
01:46:35,322 --> 01:46:36,690
wearing a white with the

2803
01:46:36,757 --> 01:46:37,290
california housing consortium

2804
01:46:37,357 --> 01:46:39,693
proud to be a co sponsor of this

2805
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:40,694
critical piece of legislation

2806
01:46:40,761 --> 01:46:43,330
urge your support today. Hello

2807
01:46:43,396 --> 01:46:45,065
sam awesome executive director

2808
01:46:45,132 --> 01:46:45,932
of mission housing development

2809
01:46:45,999 --> 01:46:47,501
corporation a nonprofit

2810
01:46:47,567 --> 01:46:48,802
affordable housing developer I'm

2811
01:46:48,869 --> 01:46:50,704
here representing bridge housing

2812
01:46:50,771 --> 01:46:52,005
mercy housing the tenderloin

2813
01:46:52,072 --> 01:46:53,673
housing clinic john stewart

2814
01:46:53,740 --> 01:46:55,642
corporation we are in strong

2815
01:46:55,709 --> 01:46:56,443
support among us we have

2816
01:46:56,510 --> 01:46:57,444
delivered thousands upon

2817
01:46:57,511 --> 01:46:59,079
thousands of affordable housing.

2818
01:46:59,146 --> 01:47:01,982
units because of sb thirty five

2819
01:47:02,048 --> 01:47:05,619
so please extent thank you. Hi

2820
01:47:05,685 --> 01:47:07,387
laura foote executive director

2821
01:47:07,454 --> 01:47:09,322
of the in the action and mom to

2822
01:47:09,389 --> 01:47:11,191
freddie fog mas this is the

2823
01:47:11,258 --> 01:47:13,593
first housing committee meeting-

2824
01:47:13,660 --> 01:47:15,595
but probably not as last. And I

2825
01:47:15,662 --> 01:47:17,264
ask you to build housing for

2826
01:47:17,330 --> 01:47:19,032
this generation and the next

2827
01:47:19,099 --> 01:47:22,435
one- in strong support. A

2828
01:47:22,502 --> 01:47:24,337
little. Good afternoon sharon

2829
01:47:24,404 --> 01:47:25,872
members jordan crimes on behalf

2830
01:47:25,939 --> 01:47:27,707
of green built alliance for an

2831
01:47:27,774 --> 01:47:28,575
environmental nonprofit serving

2832
01:47:28,642 --> 01:47:31,211
the nine county bay area in

2833
01:47:31,278 --> 01:47:32,279
strong support today thank you

2834
01:47:32,345 --> 01:47:36,616
so much. Hello alex melendrez

2835
01:47:36,683 --> 01:47:38,318
city of san bruno I work in the

2836
01:47:38,385 --> 01:47:40,854
action I am also a member of

2837
01:47:40,921 --> 01:47:41,688
peninsula for everyone I am in

2838
01:47:41,755 --> 01:47:44,090
strong support of sb four twenty

2839
01:47:44,157 --> 01:47:48,862
three thank you. Good afternoon

2840
01:47:48,929 --> 01:47:50,730
alley say berman here on behalf

2841
01:47:50,797 --> 01:47:52,632
of the housing action coalition

2842
01:47:52,699 --> 01:47:54,367
up on it as I have and last but

2843
01:47:54,434 --> 01:47:56,903
not least south bay m. B. Thank

2844
01:47:56,970 --> 01:47:58,305
you so much and- in strong

2845
01:47:58,371 --> 01:48:01,708
support of course. Good

2846
01:48:01,775 --> 01:48:02,943
afternoon centers luis mante

2847
01:48:03,009 --> 01:48:04,277
with bury council we represent

2848
01:48:04,344 --> 01:48:06,446
about three hundred and thirty

2849
01:48:06,513 --> 01:48:08,515
of the bay area's largest

2850
01:48:08,582 --> 01:48:10,016
employers here in strong support

2851
01:48:10,083 --> 01:48:11,117
of extending sb thirty five

2852
01:48:11,184 --> 01:48:14,788
today thank you. Good afternoon

2853
01:48:14,855 --> 01:48:16,890
turn members my name is rapha

2854
01:48:16,957 --> 01:48:18,825
sonnenfeld with hot indiana and

2855
01:48:18,892 --> 01:48:20,861
I'm here in strong support of

2856
01:48:20,927 --> 01:48:22,963
this bill on behalf of grow the

2857
01:48:23,029 --> 01:48:26,733
richmond. Mountain the mountain

2858
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,836
- also on forever no neighbor

2859
01:48:29,903 --> 01:48:31,238
and insulet forever why progress

2860
01:48:31,304 --> 01:48:32,906
in the valley san. Emb santokh

2861
01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:36,042
in be santa rosa emb loco b. Has

2862
01:48:36,109 --> 01:48:38,645
bay. Southside ford berman

2863
01:48:38,712 --> 01:48:42,515
advice. And fremont for everyone

2864
01:48:42,582 --> 01:48:45,185
thank you. Rauner let carbon

2865
01:48:45,252 --> 01:48:47,087
local one eighty support thank

2866
01:48:47,153 --> 01:48:51,625
you. Richard burns carpenters

2867
01:48:51,691 --> 01:48:53,493
local two one three strong

2868
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,629
support thank you very much

2869
01:48:55,695 --> 01:48:56,696
really appreciate your time

2870
01:48:56,763 --> 01:49:00,834
thank you. Brian o'connell napa

2871
01:49:00,901 --> 01:49:03,203
resident and how to radio strong

2872
01:49:03,270 --> 01:49:06,373
support thank you. Good

2873
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,108
afternoon assembled from

2874
01:49:08,174 --> 01:49:09,643
southwest mount states regional

2875
01:49:09,709 --> 01:49:11,011
council carper's local seven

2876
01:49:11,077 --> 01:49:12,312
twenty one. Look at we are

2877
01:49:12,379 --> 01:49:13,747
california and we strongly

2878
01:49:13,813 --> 01:49:16,449
support s. B. Four twenty three

2879
01:49:16,516 --> 01:49:20,453
thank you. Good afternoon madam

2880
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:21,988
chair and committee members

2881
01:49:22,055 --> 01:49:23,156
maria coronado live in burbank

2882
01:49:23,223 --> 01:49:26,660
california proud member of local

2883
01:49:26,726 --> 01:49:27,827
three two three and we're in

2884
01:49:27,894 --> 01:49:30,797
strong support of this bill.

2885
01:49:30,864 --> 01:49:32,899
april atkins business rep local

2886
01:49:32,966 --> 01:49:33,867
twenty two san francisco in

2887
01:49:33,934 --> 01:49:39,072
strong support of. Four twenty

2888
01:49:39,139 --> 01:49:40,307
three. Anastas macfarlane coming

2889
01:49:40,373 --> 01:49:41,841
as legal entities solano county

2890
01:49:41,908 --> 01:49:45,845
in support of this bill thanks.

2891
01:49:45,912 --> 01:49:47,280
good afternoon judge frawley's-

2892
01:49:47,347 --> 01:49:49,015
president seven thirteen and

2893
01:49:49,082 --> 01:49:51,284
we're support of s. B. Four two

2894
01:49:51,351 --> 01:49:55,121
three thank you. Good afternoon

2895
01:49:55,188 --> 01:49:56,389
my name said phil vice I'm a

2896
01:49:56,456 --> 01:49:57,791
member of local twenty to thirty

2897
01:49:57,857 --> 01:49:59,926
six out of oakland and I

2898
01:49:59,993 --> 01:50:01,361
strongly support senate bill

2899
01:50:01,428 --> 01:50:02,295
twenty four twenty three thank

2900
01:50:02,362 --> 01:50:05,432
you. Good afternoon on't on when

2901
01:50:05,498 --> 01:50:07,567
you also the corporate local

2902
01:50:07,634 --> 01:50:08,201
seven thirteen represent alameda

2903
01:50:08,268 --> 01:50:10,971
county and strong support the

2904
01:50:11,037 --> 01:50:11,838
bill for twenty three. I think

2905
01:50:11,905 --> 01:50:14,641
everyone. Good afternoon jason

2906
01:50:14,708 --> 01:50:17,677
martinez I'm a member of local

2907
01:50:17,744 --> 01:50:18,545
seven one for the carpenters

2908
01:50:18,611 --> 01:50:21,181
union out of fresno and also-

2909
01:50:21,247 --> 01:50:23,616
proud military veteran- in

2910
01:50:23,683 --> 01:50:25,785
support of four twenty three

2911
01:50:25,852 --> 01:50:29,923
thank you. Good afternoon my

2912
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:31,591
name's courtney powell and with

2913
01:50:31,658 --> 01:50:32,092
resources for community

2914
01:50:32,158 --> 01:50:33,626
development or a nonprofit

2915
01:50:33,693 --> 01:50:35,962
affordable housing developer in

2916
01:50:36,029 --> 01:50:37,230
support of sb four twenty three

2917
01:50:37,297 --> 01:50:40,934
thanks. Good afternoon travis

2918
01:50:41,001 --> 01:50:43,303
alexander laughter local ninety

2919
01:50:43,370 --> 01:50:43,903
eighty three out of fresno we

2920
01:50:43,970 --> 01:50:50,110
strongly support sb. Forty

2921
01:50:50,176 --> 01:50:51,211
three. Good afternoon eddie luna

2922
01:50:51,277 --> 01:50:53,146
no cup proud proud member of

2923
01:50:53,213 --> 01:50:55,782
local carpenters local seven

2924
01:50:55,849 --> 01:50:56,383
thirteen am pleased that the

2925
01:50:56,449 --> 01:51:01,187
light the end of support of this

2926
01:51:01,254 --> 01:51:02,422
bill. For twenty three. Good

2927
01:51:02,489 --> 01:51:03,957
afternoon my name is juan

2928
01:51:04,024 --> 01:51:04,724
espinoza I'm a proud member of

2929
01:51:04,791 --> 01:51:07,227
nor cal carpenters local two

2930
01:51:07,293 --> 01:51:08,928
seventeen in some until county

2931
01:51:08,995 --> 01:51:11,064
and I'm here in strong support

2932
01:51:11,131 --> 01:51:12,399
of s. B. Two four twenty three

2933
01:51:12,465 --> 01:51:16,369
thank you. Five douglas leach a

2934
01:51:16,436 --> 01:51:19,973
resident of danville in support

2935
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,909
of this bill. My name is a gable

2936
01:51:22,976 --> 01:51:24,677
and a member of local one oh two

2937
01:51:24,744 --> 01:51:26,946
and livermore and I we support

2938
01:51:27,013 --> 01:51:30,717
this bill. Good afternoon my

2939
01:51:30,784 --> 01:51:32,585
name is daniel craig a member at

2940
01:51:32,652 --> 01:51:34,454
nor cal carpenters local twenty

2941
01:51:34,521 --> 01:51:36,489
thirty six and oakland strongly

2942
01:51:36,556 --> 01:51:37,457
support sb four twenty three

2943
01:51:37,524 --> 01:51:41,361
thank you. Good evening

2944
01:51:41,428 --> 01:51:43,463
francisco martinez- feel ripped

2945
01:51:43,530 --> 01:51:45,498
up and local twenty to thirty

2946
01:51:45,565 --> 01:51:47,867
six loka- carpenters covering

2947
01:51:47,934 --> 01:51:48,468
forty six northern california

2948
01:51:48,535 --> 01:51:50,837
counties and we in support of

2949
01:51:50,904 --> 01:51:55,141
these bills. If made lopez

2950
01:51:55,208 --> 01:51:56,276
resident that it gives that

2951
01:51:56,342 --> 01:51:59,112
governmental. Level bus this

2952
01:51:59,179 --> 01:52:04,317
bill. Marilyn shea california

2953
01:52:04,384 --> 01:52:06,252
association of local housing

2954
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:09,255
finance agencies strong support

2955
01:52:09,322 --> 01:52:12,192
. Hi katie herridge mac within

2956
01:52:12,258 --> 01:52:14,494
ph nonprofit housing association

2957
01:52:14,561 --> 01:52:15,628
of northern california in strong

2958
01:52:15,695 --> 01:52:20,800
support. Rigoberto collado from

2959
01:52:20,867 --> 01:52:22,735
us senate say california split

2960
01:52:22,802 --> 01:52:25,705
support sb four twenty three

2961
01:52:25,772 --> 01:52:30,110
thank. Good afternoon my name is

2962
01:52:30,176 --> 01:52:31,277
one barbosa and I'm a field

2963
01:52:31,344 --> 01:52:33,379
representative but local five oh

2964
01:52:33,446 --> 01:52:35,715
five in santa cruz county coming

2965
01:52:35,782 --> 01:52:37,817
strong support of sb four twenty

2966
01:52:37,884 --> 01:52:42,155
three thank you. Good afternoon

2967
01:52:42,222 --> 01:52:43,556
my name is erin had service

2968
01:52:43,623 --> 01:52:45,458
currently at work local twenty

2969
01:52:45,525 --> 01:52:48,094
two and services to an arms

2970
01:52:48,161 --> 01:52:53,833
strong supporter of- for twenty

2971
01:52:53,900 --> 01:52:56,603
four. Canister with the local

2972
01:52:56,669 --> 01:52:58,104
nine one four four in san jose

2973
01:52:58,171 --> 01:53:03,409
and I strongly support sb. Four

2974
01:53:03,476 --> 01:53:04,544
twenty three. Chris martinez

2975
01:53:04,611 --> 01:53:06,980
local fifty nine nine out of

2976
01:53:07,046 --> 01:53:08,081
redding california and I

2977
01:53:08,148 --> 01:53:11,684
strongly support this bill.

2978
01:53:11,751 --> 01:53:13,686
jerry kantor be a member north

2979
01:53:13,753 --> 01:53:15,588
cal california local forty six-

2980
01:53:15,655 --> 01:53:17,657
and I means putting support a

2981
01:53:17,724 --> 01:53:22,328
bath before twenty three. Some

2982
01:53:22,395 --> 01:53:23,963
of us kids out of local four

2983
01:53:24,030 --> 01:53:26,166
five in san jose california in

2984
01:53:26,232 --> 01:53:27,367
strong support sb four twenty

2985
01:53:27,433 --> 01:53:31,905
three. Giovanni are liam-

2986
01:53:31,971 --> 01:53:33,373
resident of placerville I'm a

2987
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,408
member of sixty eight l. In

2988
01:53:35,475 --> 01:53:36,576
oakland and I strongly support

2989
01:53:36,643 --> 01:53:37,944
this long overdue read

2990
01:53:38,011 --> 01:53:38,945
legislation as before twenty

2991
01:53:39,012 --> 01:53:42,882
three. Chris palmer member local

2992
01:53:42,949 --> 01:53:44,584
one idea below strong support of

2993
01:53:44,651 --> 01:53:48,021
sb four twenty three. Albertans

2994
01:53:48,087 --> 01:53:51,424
today ninety one forty four a

2995
01:53:51,491 --> 01:53:52,592
strong supporter of for twenty

2996
01:53:52,659 --> 01:53:54,260
three. Committee members good

2997
01:53:54,327 --> 01:53:55,995
afternoon pedro mendes covers

2998
01:53:56,062 --> 01:53:58,998
local twenty two I'm here in

2999
01:53:59,065 --> 01:54:01,367
strong support this bill thanks

3000
01:54:01,434 --> 01:54:03,102
. How does all this markle

3001
01:54:03,169 --> 01:54:05,205
carpenters union local forty six

3002
01:54:05,271 --> 01:54:07,507
sacramento who strong supporter

3003
01:54:07,574 --> 01:54:12,145
of sb forty three. Tony will be

3004
01:54:12,212 --> 01:54:12,779
california apartment association

3005
01:54:12,845 --> 01:54:16,449
strong support thanks. Kyle

3006
01:54:16,516 --> 01:54:19,052
patterson selfless mount states

3007
01:54:19,118 --> 01:54:22,021
felt los angeles we're sort of

3008
01:54:22,088 --> 01:54:24,757
strong supporter of this bill.

3009
01:54:24,824 --> 01:54:29,529
sb. Four twenty three. Good

3010
01:54:29,596 --> 01:54:30,263
evening committee ministry

3011
01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:31,297
lawson from the beautiful city

3012
01:54:31,364 --> 01:54:33,666
of long beach california local

3013
01:54:33,733 --> 01:54:35,668
five six two wistrom please in

3014
01:54:35,735 --> 01:54:37,971
support of his bill thank. Madam

3015
01:54:38,037 --> 01:54:40,206
chair members to any curtain

3016
01:54:40,273 --> 01:54:40,740
california conference of

3017
01:54:40,807 --> 01:54:42,875
carpenters I really want you to

3018
01:54:42,942 --> 01:54:44,177
understand that skilled and

3019
01:54:44,244 --> 01:54:45,979
trained as it stands now with

3020
01:54:46,045 --> 01:54:48,314
literally exclude the three

3021
01:54:48,381 --> 01:54:49,616
hundred and thirty thousand or

3022
01:54:49,682 --> 01:54:50,883
three over three hundred

3023
01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:51,951
thousand nonunion construction

3024
01:54:52,018 --> 01:54:54,120
workers and housing. And exclude

3025
01:54:54,187 --> 01:54:55,555
significant portion of the union

3026
01:54:55,622 --> 01:54:57,457
construction workers that are in

3027
01:54:57,523 --> 01:54:58,858
housing it is a very complex

3028
01:54:58,925 --> 01:55:01,694
difficult standard be happening

3029
01:55:01,761 --> 01:55:02,996
is some questions afterwards.

3030
01:55:03,062 --> 01:55:05,031
and we're in support of ab

3031
01:55:05,098 --> 01:55:06,199
that's before twenty three thank

3032
01:55:06,266 --> 01:55:09,469
you. Got little l. Richmond

3033
01:55:09,535 --> 01:55:11,237
california residents member of

3034
01:55:11,304 --> 01:55:13,506
carpenters local one fifty two

3035
01:55:13,573 --> 01:55:15,508
and a researcher of housing

3036
01:55:15,575 --> 01:55:17,143
construction labor standards for

3037
01:55:17,210 --> 01:55:19,646
twenty years in strong support

3038
01:55:19,712 --> 01:55:30,323
of four to three.

3039
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:33,493
I think you do we have any other

3040
01:55:33,559 --> 01:55:36,929
witnesses in support of sb four

3041
01:55:36,996 --> 01:55:38,231
twenty three hearing room twelve

3042
01:55:38,298 --> 01:55:40,099
hundred. Seeing none will now

3043
01:55:40,166 --> 01:55:42,535
move on to witnesses in

3044
01:55:42,602 --> 01:55:45,738
opposition of s. B. A poor

3045
01:55:45,805 --> 01:55:49,876
twenty three here in room twelve

3046
01:55:49,942 --> 01:55:58,284
hundred.

3047
01:55:58,351 --> 01:56:00,186
good afternoon madam chair

3048
01:56:00,253 --> 01:56:02,355
committee members. My name is

3049
01:56:02,422 --> 01:56:04,590
sabrina fernandes. I'm a native

3050
01:56:04,657 --> 01:56:06,726
san franciscan graduates of the

3051
01:56:06,793 --> 01:56:08,061
state approved apprenticeship

3052
01:56:08,127 --> 01:56:10,496
training program and I'm a state

3053
01:56:10,563 --> 01:56:12,198
certified electrician. I'm here

3054
01:56:12,265 --> 01:56:13,866
today to speak on behalf of the

3055
01:56:13,933 --> 01:56:19,539
california. I've been a member

3056
01:56:19,605 --> 01:56:20,440
of my organization the

3057
01:56:20,506 --> 01:56:22,041
international brotherhood of

3058
01:56:22,108 --> 01:56:23,176
electrical workers for thirty

3059
01:56:23,242 --> 01:56:24,911
five years. I served my

3060
01:56:24,977 --> 01:56:26,012
apprenticeship and work with

3061
01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:28,181
tools in the field for about

3062
01:56:28,247 --> 01:56:29,782
half of my career. The other

3063
01:56:29,849 --> 01:56:31,617
half I spent creating and

3064
01:56:31,684 --> 01:56:32,452
directing our electrical

3065
01:56:32,518 --> 01:56:34,120
industry cut- office of labor

3066
01:56:34,187 --> 01:56:37,523
compliance. Well my job involves

3067
01:56:37,590 --> 01:56:39,225
speaking with workers on public

3068
01:56:39,292 --> 01:56:40,259
construction projects in san

3069
01:56:40,326 --> 01:56:45,431
francisco. We're all

3070
01:56:45,498 --> 01:56:46,866
construction workers union and

3071
01:56:46,933 --> 01:56:49,936
nonunion. Should receive by law

3072
01:56:50,002 --> 01:56:51,871
prevailing wages and more

3073
01:56:51,938 --> 01:56:53,039
premises registered in state

3074
01:56:53,106 --> 01:56:54,240
approved apprenticeship training

3075
01:56:54,307 --> 01:56:55,341
programs are mandated the

3076
01:56:55,408 --> 01:56:57,176
opportunity to work a percentage

3077
01:56:57,243 --> 01:56:58,745
of hours on projects. So that

3078
01:56:58,811 --> 01:57:00,713
they may learn their craft from

3079
01:57:00,780 --> 01:57:01,748
experience and skilled journey

3080
01:57:01,814 --> 01:57:04,283
persons all too often I meet

3081
01:57:04,350 --> 01:57:05,651
workers who are unaware that

3082
01:57:05,718 --> 01:57:06,853
they're entitled to prevailing

3083
01:57:06,919 --> 01:57:08,488
wages workers who don't have the

3084
01:57:08,554 --> 01:57:10,490
benefit of union representation

3085
01:57:10,556 --> 01:57:12,658
for example. And many of whom

3086
01:57:12,725 --> 01:57:13,893
are immigrants with limited

3087
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,728
english language skills or

3088
01:57:15,795 --> 01:57:17,597
otherwise vulnerable. I've

3089
01:57:17,663 --> 01:57:18,865
helped many of these folks who

3090
01:57:18,931 --> 01:57:21,033
are too afraid to speak up about

3091
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,702
wage theft or other abuses

3092
01:57:22,769 --> 01:57:25,104
fearful of losing their jobs.

3093
01:57:25,171 --> 01:57:27,140
too afraid to say no. Even when

3094
01:57:27,206 --> 01:57:29,709
asked to perform work they had

3095
01:57:29,776 --> 01:57:30,576
no experience in. Putting their

3096
01:57:30,643 --> 01:57:34,046
lives. And the lives of their

3097
01:57:34,113 --> 01:57:36,349
coworkers at risk. No one can

3098
01:57:36,416 --> 01:57:38,651
contest the wrong in subjecting

3099
01:57:38,718 --> 01:57:39,986
workers to dangerous work

3100
01:57:40,052 --> 01:57:42,121
they're not trained to perform.

3101
01:57:42,188 --> 01:57:43,556
and what about the folks who

3102
01:57:43,623 --> 01:57:45,258
occupy and use the building

3103
01:57:45,324 --> 01:57:47,059
being built by the unskilled.

3104
01:57:47,126 --> 01:57:49,061
whether it be a school a

3105
01:57:49,128 --> 01:57:51,364
hospital or housing. For those

3106
01:57:51,431 --> 01:57:54,767
building safe. I think it's an

3107
01:57:54,834 --> 01:57:57,203
important question. I was glad

3108
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:58,538
when california legislators

3109
01:57:58,604 --> 01:57:59,405
passed skilled and trained

3110
01:57:59,472 --> 01:58:01,340
requirements for construction

3111
01:58:01,407 --> 01:58:02,442
workers ensuring that baseline

3112
01:58:02,508 --> 01:58:04,043
percentages of workers on public

3113
01:58:04,110 --> 01:58:05,044
and fast track housing in

3114
01:58:05,111 --> 01:58:06,746
california would be required to

3115
01:58:06,813 --> 01:58:07,880
be graduates of state approved

3116
01:58:07,947 --> 01:58:08,614
apprenticeship training

3117
01:58:08,681 --> 01:58:11,717
programs. Or have equivalent

3118
01:58:11,784 --> 01:58:13,519
measures of skill and experience

3119
01:58:13,586 --> 01:58:15,288
. These programs make high skill

3120
01:58:15,354 --> 01:58:16,789
high paying careers accessible

3121
01:58:16,856 --> 01:58:20,827
to people of color women like me

3122
01:58:20,893 --> 01:58:22,962
. And vulnerable folks. Like

3123
01:58:23,029 --> 01:58:24,764
many of those I met on san

3124
01:58:24,831 --> 01:58:26,432
francisco jobsites. People for

3125
01:58:26,499 --> 01:58:27,667
whom skill training is the

3126
01:58:27,733 --> 01:58:29,502
difference between fear and

3127
01:58:29,569 --> 01:58:31,337
empowerment between being abuse

3128
01:58:31,404 --> 01:58:33,439
worker. And being a valued

3129
01:58:33,506 --> 01:58:35,708
worker stepping on to the path

3130
01:58:35,775 --> 01:58:38,778
of the middle class. Sb four to

3131
01:58:38,845 --> 01:58:39,779
three removes the requirements

3132
01:58:39,846 --> 01:58:42,114
do you skilled and train workers

3133
01:58:42,181 --> 01:58:44,150
and employ apprentices. Don't

3134
01:58:44,217 --> 01:58:45,618
let exploitative profit driven

3135
01:58:45,685 --> 01:58:47,253
developers get rich at the

3136
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:48,521
expense of the safety of

3137
01:58:48,588 --> 01:58:49,155
california's construction

3138
01:58:49,222 --> 01:58:52,658
workers. Please do not allow sb

3139
01:58:52,725 --> 01:58:53,626
four to three to move forward

3140
01:58:53,693 --> 01:58:55,628
unless it is amended to retain

3141
01:58:55,695 --> 01:58:57,430
strong language mandating

3142
01:58:57,497 --> 01:58:59,832
skilled and trained measures.

3143
01:58:59,899 --> 01:59:00,433
california's construction work

3144
01:59:00,500 --> 01:59:03,569
force. All of us. Deserve these

3145
01:59:03,636 --> 01:59:06,472
protections. We urge the members

3146
01:59:06,539 --> 01:59:09,075
of this committee to work with

3147
01:59:09,141 --> 01:59:10,376
the same with the state building

3148
01:59:10,443 --> 01:59:11,377
construction trades council.

3149
01:59:11,444 --> 01:59:13,980
before the bill gets off the

3150
01:59:14,046 --> 01:59:15,147
senate floor thank you very much

3151
01:59:15,214 --> 01:59:20,820
for time. Madam chair members

3152
01:59:20,887 --> 01:59:22,421
serra flocks of the california

3153
01:59:22,488 --> 01:59:24,524
labor federation representing

3154
01:59:24,590 --> 01:59:26,092
two million union members in the

3155
01:59:26,158 --> 01:59:28,127
state of california. We also

3156
01:59:28,194 --> 01:59:29,929
stand with the building trades

3157
01:59:29,996 --> 01:59:31,364
and with my sister from the I.

3158
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:34,967
b. E. W. In opposing sb four

3159
01:59:35,034 --> 01:59:38,170
twenty three unless amended. Sb

3160
01:59:38,237 --> 01:59:39,939
thirty five was the product of

3161
01:59:40,006 --> 01:59:41,440
extensive negotiations that

3162
01:59:41,507 --> 01:59:42,708
resulted in allowing

3163
01:59:42,775 --> 01:59:45,077
streamlining for projects if

3164
01:59:45,144 --> 01:59:47,446
developers were able to meet

3165
01:59:47,513 --> 01:59:48,915
labor standards that included

3166
01:59:48,981 --> 01:59:50,583
the prevailing wage and a

3167
01:59:50,650 --> 01:59:52,485
skilled and trained workforce.

3168
01:59:52,552 --> 01:59:54,587
this ensured that workers were

3169
01:59:54,654 --> 01:59:57,423
paid fairly but also that these

3170
01:59:57,490 --> 01:59:59,859
projects were creating good

3171
01:59:59,926 --> 02:00:03,563
middle class jobs. Sb four

3172
02:00:03,629 --> 02:00:04,797
twenty three removes those labor

3173
02:00:04,864 --> 02:00:06,699
standards for residential

3174
02:00:06,766 --> 02:00:08,968
construction workers. We oppose

3175
02:00:09,035 --> 02:00:12,138
this on policy but we oppose

3176
02:00:12,204 --> 02:00:14,140
this as a matter of principle.

3177
02:00:14,206 --> 02:00:16,742
it is unacceptable to strip

3178
02:00:16,809 --> 02:00:18,544
labor protections and labor

3179
02:00:18,611 --> 02:00:20,813
standards from any worker in the

3180
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:22,548
state of california whether

3181
02:00:22,615 --> 02:00:24,016
they're a construction worker a

3182
02:00:24,083 --> 02:00:26,886
nurse a teacher a firefighter a

3183
02:00:26,953 --> 02:00:29,589
truck driver or any other.

3184
02:00:29,655 --> 02:00:32,224
person in california who works

3185
02:00:32,291 --> 02:00:36,128
in this state. For those reasons

3186
02:00:36,195 --> 02:00:38,297
we must oppose this bill. As a

3187
02:00:38,364 --> 02:00:40,132
federation of unions that

3188
02:00:40,199 --> 02:00:41,867
represent members in every

3189
02:00:41,934 --> 02:00:44,704
industry in the state we know

3190
02:00:44,770 --> 02:00:47,340
that affordable housing is a

3191
02:00:47,406 --> 02:00:48,874
priority for working

3192
02:00:48,941 --> 02:00:50,676
californians it's a priority for

3193
02:00:50,743 --> 02:00:54,113
our members we hear it every day

3194
02:00:54,180 --> 02:00:56,916
. But we also know that it's not

3195
02:00:56,983 --> 02:00:59,118
a standalone problem. The

3196
02:00:59,185 --> 02:01:01,187
affordable housing crisis is

3197
02:01:01,253 --> 02:01:04,256
inextricably linked to the lack

3198
02:01:04,323 --> 02:01:06,993
of good middle class jobs we can

3199
02:01:07,059 --> 02:01:08,861
not address one without

3200
02:01:08,928 --> 02:01:11,731
addressing the other we cannot

3201
02:01:11,797 --> 02:01:14,133
solve this crisis on the backs

3202
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:17,036
of workers it is only going to

3203
02:01:17,103 --> 02:01:19,472
cause another crisis. It is for

3204
02:01:19,538 --> 02:01:21,440
those reasons that we stand with

3205
02:01:21,507 --> 02:01:22,842
our brothers and sisters and

3206
02:01:22,908 --> 02:01:24,677
siblings in the building trades

3207
02:01:24,744 --> 02:01:27,747
and ask that you vote no on this

3208
02:01:27,813 --> 02:01:29,749
bill today we oppose unless

3209
02:01:29,815 --> 02:01:36,122
amended thank you. Madam chair

3210
02:01:36,188 --> 02:01:38,658
members jason riley california

3211
02:01:38,724 --> 02:01:39,859
cities- we are also opposed to

3212
02:01:39,925 --> 02:01:44,263
this measure. Madam chair and

3213
02:01:44,330 --> 02:01:45,831
members mario you dirty of the

3214
02:01:45,898 --> 02:01:47,066
western regional political

3215
02:01:47,133 --> 02:01:48,567
director for unite here and the

3216
02:01:48,634 --> 02:01:50,770
hospitality workers are here in

3217
02:01:50,836 --> 02:01:51,570
solidarity with the building and

3218
02:01:51,637 --> 02:01:53,639
construction trades council

3219
02:01:53,706 --> 02:01:57,677
oppose unless amended thank you

3220
02:01:57,743 --> 02:01:59,445
. Good afternoon my name is mark

3221
02:01:59,512 --> 02:02:00,680
miller were for the california

3222
02:02:00,746 --> 02:02:01,514
state building trees we

3223
02:02:01,580 --> 02:02:03,482
represent half a million

3224
02:02:03,549 --> 02:02:04,383
construction workers in

3225
02:02:04,450 --> 02:02:07,019
california and we oppose this

3226
02:02:07,086 --> 02:02:12,024
unless amended thank you. Good

3227
02:02:12,091 --> 02:02:13,092
afternoon members because

3228
02:02:13,159 --> 02:02:13,926
they're walking here on behalf

3229
02:02:13,993 --> 02:02:15,895
of the two hundred thousand plus

3230
02:02:15,961 --> 02:02:16,796
members of the california states

3231
02:02:16,862 --> 02:02:18,431
by trade council the california

3232
02:02:18,497 --> 02:02:19,899
state association of electrical

3233
02:02:19,965 --> 02:02:21,400
workers the coalition of

3234
02:02:21,467 --> 02:02:23,235
california utility employees as

3235
02:02:23,302 --> 02:02:25,304
well as the western states

3236
02:02:25,371 --> 02:02:25,938
council of sheet metal workers

3237
02:02:26,005 --> 02:02:28,674
and opposition as the bill as

3238
02:02:28,741 --> 02:02:31,677
currently constructed thank you

3239
02:02:31,744 --> 02:02:34,146
. Hello my name is law like a

3240
02:02:34,213 --> 02:02:36,115
steel with ibew local eleven of

3241
02:02:36,182 --> 02:02:36,982
los angeles a representing

3242
02:02:37,049 --> 02:02:38,451
almost twelve thousand members

3243
02:02:38,517 --> 02:02:40,352
what we stand in solidarity with

3244
02:02:40,419 --> 02:02:43,222
the building trades to oppose sb

3245
02:02:43,289 --> 02:02:44,390
four twenty three unless amended

3246
02:02:44,457 --> 02:02:48,994
thank you. Good afternoon forty

3247
02:02:49,061 --> 02:02:50,396
senators thank you for all your

3248
02:02:50,463 --> 02:02:53,099
work do you do for the state of

3249
02:02:53,165 --> 02:02:55,401
california. I many payroll co

3250
02:02:55,468 --> 02:02:57,903
monterey santa cruz county

3251
02:02:57,970 --> 02:02:58,471
building construction trades

3252
02:02:58,537 --> 02:03:02,475
council. We oppose four two

3253
02:03:02,541 --> 02:03:04,410
three s. B. Forty three class

3254
02:03:04,477 --> 02:03:06,846
fits amended we stand right with

3255
02:03:06,912 --> 02:03:07,947
the state building trades thank

3256
02:03:08,013 --> 02:03:12,618
you. Good afternoon sherrin guns

3257
02:03:12,685 --> 02:03:14,487
all of it is on behalf of the

3258
02:03:14,553 --> 02:03:16,021
cities of bakersfield corona

3259
02:03:16,088 --> 02:03:18,791
rancho cucamonga and rancho

3260
02:03:18,858 --> 02:03:19,925
palos verdes in opposition thank

3261
02:03:19,992 --> 02:03:25,564
you. My name is scott reform a

3262
02:03:25,631 --> 02:03:27,533
business agent local three nine

3263
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,502
three you way. Santa clara

3264
02:03:29,568 --> 02:03:31,270
county san benito counties- we

3265
02:03:31,337 --> 02:03:32,905
support the building trades an

3266
02:03:32,972 --> 02:03:37,743
oppose unless amended. Matt

3267
02:03:37,810 --> 02:03:38,711
brought here on behalf of the

3268
02:03:38,778 --> 02:03:40,446
california teamsters in town in

3269
02:03:40,513 --> 02:03:45,184
paradise in opposition thank you

3270
02:03:45,251 --> 02:03:46,652
. Good afternoon madam chair

3271
02:03:46,719 --> 02:03:48,220
chasing themselves representing

3272
02:03:48,287 --> 02:03:49,789
the cities of oak grove in the

3273
02:03:49,855 --> 02:03:52,158
walls sleek would and rancho

3274
02:03:52,224 --> 02:03:55,895
cordova in opposition thank you

3275
02:03:55,961 --> 02:03:56,929
. Good afternoon chair and

3276
02:03:56,996 --> 02:03:58,898
committee members hi jonathan

3277
02:03:58,964 --> 02:03:59,498
that representing the city of

3278
02:03:59,565 --> 02:04:03,502
montebello- in opposition unless

3279
02:04:03,569 --> 02:04:06,172
amended- well as amended to

3280
02:04:06,238 --> 02:04:09,074
impose a sunset on january first

3281
02:04:09,141 --> 02:04:10,242
twenty thirty and to x. And

3282
02:04:10,309 --> 02:04:12,444
cd's- they are in compliance

3283
02:04:12,511 --> 02:04:16,248
with housing element thank you.

3284
02:04:16,315 --> 02:04:17,917
good afternoon carly shall be on

3285
02:04:17,983 --> 02:04:19,418
behalf of the city's entries he

3286
02:04:19,485 --> 02:04:20,953
mission viejo la habra laguna

3287
02:04:21,020 --> 02:04:22,388
beach placentia and all marin

3288
02:04:22,454 --> 02:04:26,392
opposition thank you. Mitchell

3289
02:04:26,458 --> 02:04:27,726
bechtel with the discounts of

3290
02:04:27,793 --> 02:04:29,061
ironworkers we stand state

3291
02:04:29,128 --> 02:04:30,963
building trades in opposition

3292
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:33,966
unless amended thank you. An

3293
02:04:34,033 --> 02:04:35,668
estimate on a los angeles and

3294
02:04:35,734 --> 02:04:36,335
orange county building and

3295
02:04:36,402 --> 02:04:37,770
construction trades council

3296
02:04:37,837 --> 02:04:39,772
representing one hundred forty

3297
02:04:39,839 --> 02:04:42,141
thousand hard working men and

3298
02:04:42,208 --> 02:04:42,942
women and I stand with the state

3299
02:04:43,008 --> 02:04:44,710
building trades in opposition to

3300
02:04:44,777 --> 02:04:49,315
this bill. Hello my name is john

3301
02:04:49,381 --> 02:04:50,182
hershey with united association

3302
02:04:50,249 --> 02:04:52,084
of plumbers and pipefitters

3303
02:04:52,151 --> 02:04:53,719
local four four seven in the

3304
02:04:53,786 --> 02:04:54,920
sacramento region and we are

3305
02:04:54,987 --> 02:04:58,791
oppose unless amended thank you

3306
02:04:58,858 --> 02:05:00,726
. Good afternoon maggie with

3307
02:05:00,793 --> 02:05:02,194
local union two to eight

3308
02:05:02,261 --> 02:05:03,195
plumbers and pipefitters

3309
02:05:03,262 --> 02:05:04,630
marischal california and we

3310
02:05:04,697 --> 02:05:06,832
stand with the state building

3311
02:05:06,899 --> 02:05:07,967
trades and oppose this bill was

3312
02:05:08,033 --> 02:05:12,471
amended. My name's jake bash

3313
02:05:12,538 --> 02:05:14,273
with local four four seven

3314
02:05:14,340 --> 02:05:15,708
plumbers pipefitters and- just

3315
02:05:15,774 --> 02:05:18,711
strongly disagree with- s. B.

3316
02:05:18,777 --> 02:05:23,582
four twenty three thanks. My

3317
02:05:23,649 --> 02:05:25,150
name is beau fairburn local

3318
02:05:25,217 --> 02:05:27,219
plumbers and pipefitters four

3319
02:05:27,286 --> 02:05:28,187
four seven apprentice we

3320
02:05:28,254 --> 02:05:32,057
strongly oppose. I'm camera

3321
02:05:32,124 --> 02:05:36,362
robertson- opposes will local

3322
02:05:36,428 --> 02:05:37,396
four four seven plumbers

3323
02:05:37,463 --> 02:05:40,165
pipefitters thank you. Good

3324
02:05:40,232 --> 02:05:42,167
afternoon but really you want to

3325
02:05:42,234 --> 02:05:42,768
have the state building

3326
02:05:42,835 --> 02:05:43,502
construction trades council

3327
02:05:43,569 --> 02:05:44,637
which is like to reiterate the

3328
02:05:44,703 --> 02:05:46,171
comments made by my colleagues

3329
02:05:46,238 --> 02:05:47,907
and primary testimony- we

3330
02:05:47,973 --> 02:05:49,208
strongly oppose this bill unless

3331
02:05:49,275 --> 02:05:52,144
amended- ask this bill seeks to

3332
02:05:52,211 --> 02:05:53,913
provide carve outs for market

3333
02:05:53,979 --> 02:05:55,447
rate for profit developers and

3334
02:05:55,514 --> 02:05:56,982
rolls back labor protections we

3335
02:05:57,049 --> 02:05:57,850
look forward to continuing

3336
02:05:57,917 --> 02:05:59,952
discussions. With the author and

3337
02:06:00,019 --> 02:06:02,421
the sponsors on this bill thank

3338
02:06:02,488 --> 02:06:06,191
you very much. Good afternoon

3339
02:06:06,258 --> 02:06:07,793
senators my name is alex lance

3340
02:06:07,860 --> 02:06:08,961
burke research and advocacy

3341
02:06:09,028 --> 02:06:10,462
director with the san francisco

3342
02:06:10,529 --> 02:06:11,997
electrical construction industry

3343
02:06:12,064 --> 02:06:15,401
in opposition for twenty three I

3344
02:06:15,467 --> 02:06:16,902
am also a long time labor

3345
02:06:16,969 --> 02:06:17,970
standards researcher and I've

3346
02:06:18,037 --> 02:06:19,872
vehemently oppose the half

3347
02:06:19,939 --> 02:06:22,207
truths and misrepresentations in

3348
02:06:22,274 --> 02:06:26,512
testimony in support thank you.

3349
02:06:26,578 --> 02:06:28,480
good afternoon chair members of

3350
02:06:28,547 --> 02:06:30,215
the committee my name is josh

3351
02:06:30,282 --> 02:06:31,784
from iran- I am the executive

3352
02:06:31,850 --> 02:06:32,851
secretary treasure of the tri

3353
02:06:32,918 --> 02:06:33,886
counties building and

3354
02:06:33,953 --> 02:06:34,787
construction trades council san

3355
02:06:34,853 --> 02:06:36,689
luis obispo santa barbara and

3356
02:06:36,755 --> 02:06:38,424
ventura counties representing

3357
02:06:38,490 --> 02:06:40,459
over fourteen thousand hard

3358
02:06:40,526 --> 02:06:42,528
working skilled and trained.

3359
02:06:42,594 --> 02:06:45,564
workers on behalf of the tri

3360
02:06:45,631 --> 02:06:46,198
counties building construction

3361
02:06:46,265 --> 02:06:48,033
trades council we stand with the

3362
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:48,867
state building and construction

3363
02:06:48,934 --> 02:06:50,235
trades council california

3364
02:06:50,302 --> 02:06:52,371
opposition unless amended.

3365
02:06:52,438 --> 02:06:53,539
intended to be an extension of

3366
02:06:53,605 --> 02:06:55,541
sb thirty five and twenty

3367
02:06:55,607 --> 02:06:56,909
seventeen the bill eliminates

3368
02:06:56,976 --> 02:06:57,676
the existing safety in

3369
02:06:57,743 --> 02:06:59,445
construction training standards

3370
02:06:59,511 --> 02:07:00,279
on housing specifically a

3371
02:07:00,346 --> 02:07:01,714
requirement. That a small

3372
02:07:01,780 --> 02:07:03,315
percentage of workers on the

3373
02:07:03,382 --> 02:07:04,416
project be graduates of state

3374
02:07:04,483 --> 02:07:05,050
approved apprenticeship

3375
02:07:05,117 --> 02:07:06,785
programs. The labor protections

3376
02:07:06,852 --> 02:07:08,821
in sb thirty five that were

3377
02:07:08,887 --> 02:07:10,456
previously negotiated. Sir we

3378
02:07:10,522 --> 02:07:11,623
don't have you has a lead

3379
02:07:11,690 --> 02:07:13,325
witness we right now we're just

3380
02:07:13,392 --> 02:07:14,994
taking name organization and

3381
02:07:15,060 --> 02:07:18,063
support opposition I understood

3382
02:07:18,130 --> 02:07:21,066
. Joshua medrano. In extreme

3383
02:07:21,133 --> 02:07:22,968
opposition of this bill thank

3384
02:07:23,035 --> 02:07:26,839
you thank you sir. For annika

3385
02:07:26,905 --> 02:07:28,607
within this resident of tracy's

3386
02:07:28,674 --> 02:07:31,677
summit mason proud member local

3387
02:07:31,744 --> 02:07:33,178
four hundred out of san jose and

3388
02:07:33,245 --> 02:07:36,482
I'm in a position of. S. B. Four

3389
02:07:36,548 --> 02:07:39,718
twenty three- unless amended.

3390
02:07:39,785 --> 02:07:41,887
thank you thank you ma'am. Do

3391
02:07:41,954 --> 02:07:43,722
you have any other witnesses in

3392
02:07:43,789 --> 02:07:46,959
opposition to s. B. For twenty

3393
02:07:47,026 --> 02:07:49,628
three hearing room twelve

3394
02:07:49,695 --> 02:07:59,171
hundred- be more thank. Kamala.

3395
02:07:59,238 --> 02:08:02,141
all right now we will- you will

3396
02:08:02,207 --> 02:08:03,776
now move on to witnesses we to

3397
02:08:03,842 --> 02:08:05,077
testify be it be at the

3398
02:08:05,144 --> 02:08:07,046
teleconference arvest. Will be

3399
02:08:07,112 --> 02:08:09,148
limiting phone testimony to

3400
02:08:09,214 --> 02:08:10,949
twenty minutes for all bills

3401
02:08:11,016 --> 02:08:13,252
during this hearing. Moderator

3402
02:08:13,318 --> 02:08:14,453
if you would please from the

3403
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:15,921
individuals waiting to testify

3404
02:08:15,988 --> 02:08:18,991
in support of or opposition. Hey

3405
02:08:19,058 --> 02:08:23,595
we will we begin. Or the vision

3406
02:08:23,662 --> 02:08:25,931
once again if you are in port or

3407
02:08:25,998 --> 02:08:28,333
opposition of the board the

3408
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,937
basic press one. Zero to hear a

3409
02:08:32,004 --> 02:08:33,439
phone indicating the queue if

3410
02:08:33,505 --> 02:08:38,577
you'll be giving. Bills notify

3411
02:08:38,644 --> 02:08:44,483
because please ahead. Brough

3412
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:46,151
park we shouldn't representing

3413
02:08:46,218 --> 02:08:48,587
teamsters local six five. Will

3414
02:08:48,654 --> 02:08:50,889
this building tray. In op to the

3415
02:08:50,956 --> 02:08:54,927
sp six more twenty three thank

3416
02:08:54,993 --> 02:09:00,766
you. Next will be going to wind

3417
02:09:00,833 --> 02:09:06,405
to nineteen please go ahead. Hi

3418
02:09:06,472 --> 02:09:07,706
at this is there cannella kind

3419
02:09:07,773 --> 02:09:09,374
of political director for you a

3420
02:09:09,441 --> 02:09:10,476
local three nine green we

3421
02:09:10,542 --> 02:09:11,610
represent thirty one hundred

3422
02:09:11,677 --> 02:09:13,312
members are quite thirteen

3423
02:09:13,378 --> 02:09:14,780
better hvacr technicians in

3424
02:09:14,847 --> 02:09:15,614
santa cards have been you know

3425
02:09:15,681 --> 02:09:17,316
county we stand with the

3426
02:09:17,382 --> 02:09:20,018
building trades in opposition to

3427
02:09:20,085 --> 02:09:25,757
the bill must be commended. Next

3428
02:09:25,824 --> 02:09:28,327
we'll go to line two eighty four

3429
02:09:28,393 --> 02:09:39,004
please go ahead. Hey. Yes it is

3430
02:09:39,071 --> 02:09:41,306
your line is open. Dark hi I do

3431
02:09:41,373 --> 02:09:43,275
not have a fighter the city

3432
02:09:43,342 --> 02:09:44,776
chapel in the south finish out

3433
02:09:44,843 --> 02:09:46,745
the in the probably fourteen at

3434
02:09:46,812 --> 02:09:53,085
the twenty thank you. Thanks

3435
02:09:53,152 --> 02:09:56,622
will going to one eighty six

3436
02:09:56,688 --> 02:09:57,856
please click here. Gallagher

3437
02:09:57,923 --> 02:09:59,291
table helping that in keeping

3438
02:09:59,358 --> 02:10:04,062
our local. We will focus on

3439
02:10:04,129 --> 02:10:05,731
responsible all. Have no for.

3440
02:10:05,797 --> 02:10:07,633
that are being or approved in

3441
02:10:07,699 --> 02:10:10,669
commitment to your skill trades

3442
02:10:10,736 --> 02:10:21,947
. Well british product profits.

3443
02:10:22,014 --> 02:10:24,783
what I next will go by him

3444
02:10:24,850 --> 02:10:31,123
twenty please ahead. Thank you

3445
02:10:31,190 --> 02:10:32,291
to. Yes to twenty year long is

3446
02:10:32,357 --> 02:10:34,426
open. Yes name is eddie ray. Are

3447
02:10:34,493 --> 02:10:35,494
workers local three seven seven

3448
02:10:35,561 --> 02:10:37,829
president terms francisco

3449
02:10:37,896 --> 02:10:39,364
resident I stand with the san

3450
02:10:39,431 --> 02:10:40,632
francisco with the state

3451
02:10:40,699 --> 02:10:43,135
building trades in strong

3452
02:10:43,202 --> 02:10:45,504
opposition to sb four twenty

3453
02:10:45,571 --> 02:10:48,207
three- the only ones that are in

3454
02:10:48,273 --> 02:10:50,142
favor of this and are carpenters

3455
02:10:50,209 --> 02:10:53,445
that wishes disassociated with

3456
02:10:53,512 --> 02:10:54,513
the state building trades.

3457
02:10:54,580 --> 02:11:00,852
please amanda thank you. Thanks

3458
02:11:00,919 --> 02:11:02,387
for going to wind eighty nine

3459
02:11:02,454 --> 02:11:07,993
please go ahead. Thank you.

3460
02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:09,027
humboldt del nord building kind

3461
02:11:09,094 --> 02:11:12,064
trades secretary treasurer we

3462
02:11:12,130 --> 02:11:13,665
stand with the state building

3463
02:11:13,732 --> 02:11:18,503
trades in opposition- sb four

3464
02:11:18,570 --> 02:11:20,739
twenty three unless amended. Sh

3465
02:11:20,806 --> 02:11:26,945
thank you. Next was going to

3466
02:11:27,012 --> 02:11:30,349
line forty two please go ahead.

3467
02:11:30,415 --> 02:11:31,617
good afternoon randy weber

3468
02:11:31,683 --> 02:11:33,986
ironworkers local four sixty los

3469
02:11:34,052 --> 02:11:37,489
angeles we stand strong in.

3470
02:11:37,556 --> 02:11:39,391
opposition with state building

3471
02:11:39,458 --> 02:11:43,061
trades on at four twenty three

3472
02:11:43,128 --> 02:11:48,200
thank you for. Next will be

3473
02:11:48,267 --> 02:11:50,135
going to line three nineteen

3474
02:11:50,202 --> 02:11:55,007
please go ahead. All right- so

3475
02:11:55,073 --> 02:11:56,408
we more shot at calling from los

3476
02:11:56,475 --> 02:11:58,310
angeles what better for everyone

3477
02:11:58,377 --> 02:12:04,716
in strong support thank you. It

3478
02:12:04,783 --> 02:12:07,319
will be taking line three twenty

3479
02:12:07,386 --> 02:12:09,921
one please go ahead. Good

3480
02:12:09,988 --> 02:12:11,757
afternoon my name is nina lay

3481
02:12:11,823 --> 02:12:13,191
bonta legislative affairs

3482
02:12:13,258 --> 02:12:15,894
manager on behalf of the city of

3483
02:12:15,961 --> 02:12:17,529
thousand oaks we stand and

3484
02:12:17,596 --> 02:12:21,867
respectful opposition thank you

3485
02:12:21,933 --> 02:12:25,771
. Thanks to go to line three

3486
02:12:25,837 --> 02:12:29,207
eighteen please go ahead. Bob

3487
02:12:29,274 --> 02:12:30,676
garrity from redlands and

3488
02:12:30,742 --> 02:12:32,377
californian be calling in strong

3489
02:12:32,444 --> 02:12:39,751
support of sb. Four two three.

3490
02:12:39,818 --> 02:12:41,687
will be going to line to ninety

3491
02:12:41,753 --> 02:12:45,357
one please go ahead. Assembly

3492
02:12:45,424 --> 02:12:46,958
olympic city of beverly hills

3493
02:12:47,025 --> 02:12:53,065
and we are opposed. Next will be

3494
02:12:53,131 --> 02:12:56,201
going to line two nine to sixty

3495
02:12:56,268 --> 02:13:02,808
five please go ahead. The first

3496
02:13:02,874 --> 02:13:04,309
water bradley with building

3497
02:13:04,376 --> 02:13:05,977
trades of the inland empire as a

3498
02:13:06,044 --> 02:13:07,612
business manager and executive

3499
02:13:07,679 --> 02:13:09,748
secretary we are strongly

3500
02:13:09,815 --> 02:13:14,486
opposed to this bill and- your

3501
02:13:14,553 --> 02:13:17,856
your rest your day. Thank you

3502
02:13:17,923 --> 02:13:19,791
now we will go to line number

3503
02:13:19,858 --> 02:13:23,628
two sixty seven please go ahead

3504
02:13:23,695 --> 02:13:26,965
. Our carpenters local fifty

3505
02:13:27,032 --> 02:13:28,100
eight ninety nine shasta county

3506
02:13:28,166 --> 02:13:29,301
california. We are in strong

3507
02:13:29,368 --> 02:13:34,773
support of s. B. To- thank you

3508
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:36,842
will go to the line to forty six

3509
02:13:36,908 --> 02:13:41,413
please go ahead. Hello my name

3510
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:43,515
is brian pours out made business

3511
02:13:43,582 --> 02:13:45,083
agent for you a local three nine

3512
02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:46,718
three representing over thirty

3513
02:13:46,785 --> 02:13:47,519
one hundred plumbers pipefitters

3514
02:13:47,586 --> 02:13:49,287
steam fitters and hvac our

3515
02:13:49,354 --> 02:13:50,389
service technicians in santa

3516
02:13:50,455 --> 02:13:52,791
clarendon of counties- today I'm

3517
02:13:52,858 --> 02:13:53,892
calling in standing in

3518
02:13:53,959 --> 02:13:55,160
solidarity with the building

3519
02:13:55,227 --> 02:13:57,496
trades council. And strongly

3520
02:13:57,562 --> 02:14:00,365
oppose sb four twenty three

3521
02:14:00,432 --> 02:14:02,868
thank you very top. Thank you my

3522
02:14:02,934 --> 02:14:08,940
number. To eight eight nine two

3523
02:14:09,007 --> 02:14:09,808
eighty eight. Barbara the field

3524
02:14:09,875 --> 02:14:10,542
representative local carpenters

3525
02:14:10,609 --> 02:14:12,778
union number at two seventeen

3526
02:14:12,844 --> 02:14:14,746
foster city california. A strong

3527
02:14:14,813 --> 02:14:16,815
supporter of sb four twenty

3528
02:14:16,882 --> 02:14:18,884
three thank you all for time.

3529
02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:25,056
thank you my number. Two ninety

3530
02:14:25,123 --> 02:14:29,761
four. The representative. United

3531
02:14:29,828 --> 02:14:31,630
seven thirty element county not

3532
02:14:31,696 --> 02:14:34,533
showing support the bill. Thank

3533
02:14:34,599 --> 02:14:39,471
you. Thank you my number two

3534
02:14:39,538 --> 02:14:42,340
three two. I am. Many observers

3535
02:14:42,407 --> 02:14:46,278
okot. I'm a resident of la okay

3536
02:14:46,344 --> 02:14:49,214
. Immigrants at- covers local

3537
02:14:49,281 --> 02:14:50,615
one eighty coverage solano

3538
02:14:50,682 --> 02:14:51,683
county and I strongly support

3539
02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:55,554
this bill sb four twenty three

3540
02:14:55,620 --> 02:14:58,123
thank you. Thank you will go to

3541
02:14:58,190 --> 02:15:02,227
the line number forty seven. In

3542
02:15:02,294 --> 02:15:04,229
the blighted styles- the

3543
02:15:04,296 --> 02:15:05,430
presiding over a thousand

3544
02:15:05,497 --> 02:15:07,199
members of local three ninety

3545
02:15:07,265 --> 02:15:10,435
plumbers painters welders. Joint

3546
02:15:10,502 --> 02:15:11,636
the state building trades in

3547
02:15:11,703 --> 02:15:15,540
opposition of. S. B. For twenty

3548
02:15:15,607 --> 02:15:19,144
three thank you. Thank you next

3549
02:15:19,211 --> 02:15:20,378
we'll go to line number three

3550
02:15:20,445 --> 02:15:24,516
twenty five. Hello carol cannot

3551
02:15:24,583 --> 02:15:25,617
find the business manager of the

3552
02:15:25,684 --> 02:15:27,619
san diego county building and

3553
02:15:27,686 --> 02:15:28,520
construction trades council and

3554
02:15:28,587 --> 02:15:30,722
also the ceo of the s. U. V. G.

3555
02:15:30,789 --> 02:15:32,524
the family housing corporation

3556
02:15:32,591 --> 02:15:34,726
and we are in strong opposition.

3557
02:15:34,793 --> 02:15:39,164
of sb. Four twenty three unless

3558
02:15:39,231 --> 02:15:41,032
amended thank you. Thank you my

3559
02:15:41,099 --> 02:15:45,704
number. One fifty seven. Hi my

3560
02:15:45,770 --> 02:15:48,240
name is contacted what the pain

3561
02:15:48,306 --> 02:15:50,375
is an allocate- mister. Opposed

3562
02:15:50,442 --> 02:15:54,045
of sb four twenty three thank

3563
02:15:54,112 --> 02:16:00,886
you. Thank you my number. One

3564
02:16:00,952 --> 02:16:02,320
fifty six. Hi this is david the

3565
02:16:02,387 --> 02:16:03,555
better with the painters and

3566
02:16:03,622 --> 02:16:05,156
allied trades district council

3567
02:16:05,223 --> 02:16:06,424
thirty six local thirteen ninety

3568
02:16:06,491 --> 02:16:07,592
nine. And we're going to be

3569
02:16:07,659 --> 02:16:09,027
supporting the state building

3570
02:16:09,094 --> 02:16:11,663
trades in opposition s. B. Where

3571
02:16:11,730 --> 02:16:17,335
opposing sorry opposition sb.

3572
02:16:17,402 --> 02:16:19,771
four twenty three. Thank you we

3573
02:16:19,838 --> 02:16:24,743
will go to line number. Three

3574
02:16:24,809 --> 02:16:26,478
thirty. One eighteen I stand

3575
02:16:26,545 --> 02:16:27,646
with the state building trades

3576
02:16:27,712 --> 02:16:30,215
in opposition of this bill must

3577
02:16:30,282 --> 02:16:31,883
imagine thank you. Thank you

3578
02:16:31,950 --> 02:16:34,386
will now go to line number two

3579
02:16:34,452 --> 02:16:38,490
twenty six. Good afternoon chen

3580
02:16:38,557 --> 02:16:40,158
members eric turner on behalf of

3581
02:16:40,225 --> 02:16:41,893
the town of apple valley

3582
02:16:41,960 --> 02:16:44,996
respectfully in opposition.

3583
02:16:45,063 --> 02:16:50,435
thank you my number. One forty

3584
02:16:50,502 --> 02:16:53,004
one. Right after the automated

3585
02:16:53,071 --> 02:16:57,909
allocate- opposed. The four

3586
02:16:57,976 --> 02:17:00,779
twenty three you. Next to line

3587
02:17:00,845 --> 02:17:04,382
number for five. Hi my name is

3588
02:17:04,449 --> 02:17:06,451
rachel shoemaker by b. W. Three

3589
02:17:06,518 --> 02:17:08,753
oh two representing over one

3590
02:17:08,820 --> 02:17:09,387
thousand three hundred electoral

3591
02:17:09,454 --> 02:17:11,923
workers in contra costa county

3592
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:12,557
we've been solidarity with the

3593
02:17:12,624 --> 02:17:13,124
state building trades in

3594
02:17:13,191 --> 02:17:14,826
opposition of sb four twenty

3595
02:17:14,893 --> 02:17:16,294
three ellis amended. We need to

3596
02:17:16,361 --> 02:17:17,462
invest in our friendship some

3597
02:17:17,529 --> 02:17:18,863
promote skilled and trained

3598
02:17:18,930 --> 02:17:20,599
language which helps protect all

3599
02:17:20,665 --> 02:17:22,434
construction workers from

3600
02:17:22,500 --> 02:17:25,070
exploitation thank you. Thank

3601
02:17:25,136 --> 02:17:26,504
you next a bottle line number

3602
02:17:26,571 --> 02:17:35,113
two- oh six. My number two oh

3603
02:17:35,180 --> 02:17:38,516
six your line is open. Yeah

3604
02:17:38,583 --> 02:17:41,853
martin rodriguez I will be for

3605
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:42,354
thirty three I stand in

3606
02:17:42,420 --> 02:17:45,156
opposition of this bill. In

3607
02:17:45,223 --> 02:17:47,559
solitary with state building

3608
02:17:47,626 --> 02:17:50,495
trades unless amended. Thank you

3609
02:17:50,562 --> 02:17:56,468
my number. Three forty four.

3610
02:17:56,534 --> 02:17:59,571
follow maldonado. The mobile

3611
02:17:59,638 --> 02:18:01,473
originally from about california

3612
02:18:01,539 --> 02:18:05,810
center by area I. And- and off

3613
02:18:05,877 --> 02:18:08,513
on behalf of the your email-

3614
02:18:08,580 --> 02:18:10,882
according to reports twenty

3615
02:18:10,949 --> 02:18:15,020
three. Thank you and idiot and a

3616
02:18:15,086 --> 02:18:19,057
. Thank you to a court of number

3617
02:18:19,124 --> 02:18:20,859
thirty two. Hi open shallow and

3618
02:18:20,925 --> 02:18:23,428
mark panel in the home

3619
02:18:23,495 --> 02:18:25,030
representing hundreds of people

3620
02:18:25,096 --> 02:18:30,068
and. For twenty three twenty

3621
02:18:30,135 --> 02:18:31,269
third housing and thanks for all

3622
02:18:31,336 --> 02:18:33,672
your hard work kushida. Thank

3623
02:18:33,738 --> 02:18:40,278
you by number. One twenty five.

3624
02:18:40,345 --> 02:18:42,747
yes transaction. Three seventy

3625
02:18:42,814 --> 02:18:43,481
eight stand with the building

3626
02:18:43,548 --> 02:18:48,820
changed in opposition of. S. B.

3627
02:18:48,887 --> 02:18:51,022
twenty three dollars. Thank you

3628
02:18:51,089 --> 02:18:59,731
my number. Fifty four. My number

3629
02:18:59,798 --> 02:19:04,302
fifty for your line is open.

3630
02:19:04,369 --> 02:19:05,637
okay we'll move on to the next

3631
02:19:05,704 --> 02:19:08,039
next nine three hundred please

3632
02:19:08,106 --> 02:19:11,309
go ahead. My name is larry

3633
02:19:11,376 --> 02:19:13,478
mazzola. Business manager you a

3634
02:19:13,545 --> 02:19:15,313
local thirty eight plumbers and

3635
02:19:15,380 --> 02:19:16,581
pipefitters and sam sisco mall

3636
02:19:16,648 --> 02:19:18,083
for the president the same

3637
02:19:18,149 --> 02:19:19,517
system building construction

3638
02:19:19,584 --> 02:19:22,353
trades council. A deep entire

3639
02:19:22,420 --> 02:19:23,888
building trade up and down

3640
02:19:23,955 --> 02:19:26,024
california strongly opposes

3641
02:19:26,091 --> 02:19:28,893
ripping strong labor standards

3642
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:32,030
out of this bill please close.

3643
02:19:32,097 --> 02:19:33,431
thank you next to- to line

3644
02:19:33,498 --> 02:19:35,700
numbers thirty four please go

3645
02:19:35,767 --> 02:19:43,641
ahead. My number thirty for your

3646
02:19:43,708 --> 02:19:47,345
line is open. Hello this is

3647
02:19:47,412 --> 02:19:51,015
ricky owens logistics. Six nine.

3648
02:19:51,082 --> 02:19:53,051
empire state building trains.

3649
02:19:53,118 --> 02:19:58,656
and oppose. Or. Twenty three.

3650
02:19:58,723 --> 02:20:00,625
thank you y. Number thirty seven

3651
02:20:00,692 --> 02:20:08,199
please go ahead. My number

3652
02:20:08,266 --> 02:20:11,369
thirty seven your line is open.

3653
02:20:11,436 --> 02:20:14,339
yes this is joseph parker. Local

3654
02:20:14,405 --> 02:20:15,473
six six nine organizer and we

3655
02:20:15,540 --> 02:20:16,975
stand with the state building

3656
02:20:17,041 --> 02:20:19,310
trades in oppose this bill.

3657
02:20:19,377 --> 02:20:22,514
thank you next to a bottom line

3658
02:20:22,580 --> 02:20:25,350
number one eighty nine. Hi my

3659
02:20:25,416 --> 02:20:27,652
name is public war- volunteer

3660
02:20:27,719 --> 02:20:30,388
with california yimby- calling

3661
02:20:30,455 --> 02:20:35,460
in strong support. Thank you

3662
02:20:35,527 --> 02:20:43,968
spline number. Ninety nine. My

3663
02:20:44,035 --> 02:20:45,770
number ninety nine your line is

3664
02:20:45,837 --> 02:20:51,609
open. Okay we will go to the

3665
02:20:51,676 --> 02:20:54,379
next line of sixty one please go

3666
02:20:54,445 --> 02:21:04,656
ahead. In your- go ahead. John

3667
02:21:04,722 --> 02:21:07,125
henry lopez with you a local two

3668
02:21:07,192 --> 02:21:08,159
four six palmer's implies that

3669
02:21:08,226 --> 02:21:09,093
there's representing fresno

3670
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,563
madera tulare kings county and

3671
02:21:11,629 --> 02:21:13,031
we stand in solidarity with the

3672
02:21:13,097 --> 02:21:14,065
state building trades in

3673
02:21:14,132 --> 02:21:17,902
opposition of sb. Four twenty

3674
02:21:17,969 --> 02:21:19,037
three months amended thank you.

3675
02:21:19,103 --> 02:21:25,610
thank you mexico line number.

3676
02:21:25,677 --> 02:21:26,845
one thirty five. Hi can you hear

3677
02:21:26,911 --> 02:21:29,747
me. We can hear you go head.

3678
02:21:29,814 --> 02:21:31,716
right dillon at lee eng

3679
02:21:31,783 --> 02:21:34,519
councilmember with blocks also

3680
02:21:34,586 --> 02:21:35,687
and I'd like to register my

3681
02:21:35,753 --> 02:21:39,257
opposition sb four twenty three

3682
02:21:39,324 --> 02:21:41,025
it I don't think you realize

3683
02:21:41,092 --> 02:21:44,996
the- legal liability system

3684
02:21:45,063 --> 02:21:47,765
poses on cities thank you. Thank

3685
02:21:47,832 --> 02:21:50,668
you next to a photo line number

3686
02:21:50,735 --> 02:21:54,572
three thirty one. The to the ibm

3687
02:21:54,639 --> 02:21:56,174
application global california

3688
02:21:56,241 --> 02:21:58,243
inside los angeles in opposition

3689
02:21:58,309 --> 02:22:02,447
to people three thank you. Thank

3690
02:22:02,513 --> 02:22:04,849
you next to a photo line number

3691
02:22:04,916 --> 02:22:08,419
three fourteen please go ahead.

3692
02:22:08,486 --> 02:22:12,023
cool organizer you a large local

3693
02:22:12,090 --> 02:22:18,796
citrix nine. Senate opposition.

3694
02:22:18,863 --> 02:22:20,131
twenty three okay real feel in

3695
02:22:20,198 --> 02:22:26,271
train. Thank you next week

3696
02:22:26,337 --> 02:22:28,339
bottle numbers oh please go

3697
02:22:28,406 --> 02:22:31,542
ahead. Good afternoon madam vice

3698
02:22:31,609 --> 02:22:32,877
chair member run dickens on

3699
02:22:32,944 --> 02:22:34,913
behalf of some well. The local

3700
02:22:34,979 --> 02:22:37,015
guy commission in support thank

3701
02:22:37,081 --> 02:22:40,418
you. Thank you next to a photo

3702
02:22:40,485 --> 02:22:44,589
line number. Two seventy one. Hi

3703
02:22:44,656 --> 02:22:46,090
this is rob nielsen from

3704
02:22:46,157 --> 02:22:47,992
peninsula for everyone calling

3705
02:22:48,059 --> 02:22:51,162
in support of our state four two

3706
02:22:51,229 --> 02:22:55,767
three thank you. Next we'll go

3707
02:22:55,833 --> 02:22:56,834
to line number eighty please go

3708
02:22:56,901 --> 02:23:00,371
ahead. Good afternoon position

3709
02:23:00,438 --> 02:23:01,739
in boston businessman group

3710
02:23:01,806 --> 02:23:04,909
formed by bitter cold four eight

3711
02:23:04,976 --> 02:23:06,678
four we stand with the state

3712
02:23:06,744 --> 02:23:07,745
building trades in strong

3713
02:23:07,812 --> 02:23:10,548
opposition to s. B. Four twenty

3714
02:23:10,615 --> 02:23:14,385
three unless amended. Thank you

3715
02:23:14,452 --> 02:23:16,020
. Thank you next to a line

3716
02:23:16,087 --> 02:23:21,392
number. Two seventy six. Matt

3717
02:23:21,459 --> 02:23:22,927
kelly covers local forty six

3718
02:23:22,994 --> 02:23:25,997
calling in strong support of sb

3719
02:23:26,064 --> 02:23:26,597
four twenty three skilled and

3720
02:23:26,664 --> 02:23:28,800
trained building no units of

3721
02:23:28,866 --> 02:23:31,502
housing thank you. Thank you

3722
02:23:31,569 --> 02:23:34,138
next to a line number two

3723
02:23:34,205 --> 02:23:37,508
seventy seven. Hello my name is

3724
02:23:37,575 --> 02:23:39,143
patricia rumors another local

3725
02:23:39,210 --> 02:23:41,212
fall fired in a much strong

3726
02:23:41,279 --> 02:23:44,515
support sb four twenty three

3727
02:23:44,582 --> 02:23:49,687
thank you. I next to record a

3728
02:23:49,754 --> 02:23:51,055
line number. Two ninety five.

3729
02:23:51,122 --> 02:23:52,290
good afternoon brandon the

3730
02:23:52,357 --> 02:23:54,625
member a local force former

3731
02:23:54,692 --> 02:23:57,462
spectators and- the service I

3732
02:23:57,528 --> 02:23:59,130
join the state bill trades

3733
02:23:59,197 --> 02:24:02,233
strong opposition of at four

3734
02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:05,770
twenty three. Thank you. Thank

3735
02:24:05,837 --> 02:24:09,140
you we will to one number three

3736
02:24:09,207 --> 02:24:15,346
all. Four my number four. Yes

3737
02:24:15,413 --> 02:24:17,749
good afternoon this is one the

3738
02:24:17,815 --> 02:24:19,550
biggest. Carpenters local seven

3739
02:24:19,617 --> 02:24:22,086
oh one and fresno I'm in strong

3740
02:24:22,153 --> 02:24:23,287
support of fat beats for twenty

3741
02:24:23,354 --> 02:24:27,158
three. Thank you next we will go

3742
02:24:27,225 --> 02:24:29,127
to line number forty please go

3743
02:24:29,193 --> 02:24:39,570
ahead. By number. Forty okay

3744
02:24:39,637 --> 02:24:41,773
we'll move on to the next number

3745
02:24:41,839 --> 02:24:48,980
of. Three thirty three. Three

3746
02:24:49,047 --> 02:24:49,881
thirty within a- this is ryan

3747
02:24:49,947 --> 02:24:51,449
medical center emb in strong

3748
02:24:51,516 --> 02:24:53,818
support of sb four twenty fifty

3749
02:24:53,885 --> 02:24:58,056
thank you. Next we will go to

3750
02:24:58,122 --> 02:25:00,925
line number three twenty seven.

3751
02:25:00,992 --> 02:25:02,293
good afternoon my name is jason

3752
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:04,328
pierce I'm a member in a field

3753
02:25:04,395 --> 02:25:06,330
rep of carpenters local seven

3754
02:25:06,397 --> 02:25:08,766
fifty one of the humble county.

3755
02:25:08,833 --> 02:25:10,401
strong supporter of sb four

3756
02:25:10,468 --> 02:25:13,438
twenty three thank you. Thank

3757
02:25:13,504 --> 02:25:20,745
you next will. Three forty five.

3758
02:25:20,812 --> 02:25:22,847
what carper's local seventeen

3759
02:25:22,914 --> 02:25:24,449
eighty nine in strong support of

3760
02:25:24,515 --> 02:25:29,353
sb four twenty three. Hi one. My

3761
02:25:29,420 --> 02:25:34,358
number. Two seventy three. Good

3762
02:25:34,425 --> 02:25:35,726
afternoon my name's steve ayers

3763
02:25:35,793 --> 02:25:37,128
carpenters local seven fifty one

3764
02:25:37,195 --> 02:25:41,732
strong supporter of it b. For

3765
02:25:41,799 --> 02:25:43,901
twenty three. Thank you thanks

3766
02:25:43,968 --> 02:25:45,103
to a vocal line number three

3767
02:25:45,169 --> 02:25:52,910
twenty. My number three twenty.

3768
02:25:52,977 --> 02:25:58,883
hello go ahead. My name is no

3769
02:25:58,950 --> 02:26:01,452
the lander of part of the- two

3770
02:26:01,519 --> 02:26:03,588
seventeen carper's union. County

3771
02:26:03,654 --> 02:26:07,992
and I'm a strong supporter of sb

3772
02:26:08,059 --> 02:26:08,559
four twenty three. Thank you

3773
02:26:08,626 --> 02:26:15,233
next we'll go to line number.

3774
02:26:15,299 --> 02:26:16,767
fifty eight. Hi this is regina

3775
02:26:16,834 --> 02:26:19,604
alafia with ibew local five nine

3776
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:22,974
five representing nearly twenty

3777
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:24,041
five hundred electric workers in

3778
02:26:24,108 --> 02:26:24,709
alameda county. Filmmaking

3779
02:26:24,775 --> 02:26:26,677
county and calaveras county and

3780
02:26:26,744 --> 02:26:29,147
week I'm calling in solitary

3781
02:26:29,213 --> 02:26:30,815
solidarity with the state

3782
02:26:30,882 --> 02:26:32,717
building trades in opposition-

3783
02:26:32,783 --> 02:26:36,254
of commended to senate bill four

3784
02:26:36,320 --> 02:26:38,322
twenty three thank you. I thank

3785
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:41,125
you we will go to line number

3786
02:26:41,192 --> 02:26:45,830
three eleven. The new went into

3787
02:26:45,897 --> 02:26:47,098
susan eggman carpenters union

3788
02:26:47,165 --> 02:26:50,101
local five zero five in santa

3789
02:26:50,168 --> 02:26:51,669
cruz county and I strongly

3790
02:26:51,736 --> 02:26:52,737
support as before twenty three

3791
02:26:52,803 --> 02:26:55,907
thank you. Thank you. Thanks we

3792
02:26:55,973 --> 02:27:00,077
will go to my number. Two fifty

3793
02:27:00,144 --> 02:27:01,812
six. Hi my name is ron finley

3794
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:05,082
I'm and local. Ninety one oh

3795
02:27:05,149 --> 02:27:06,217
nine drywall laughter's fact

3796
02:27:06,284 --> 02:27:07,752
only. Christian programs top

3797
02:27:07,818 --> 02:27:10,721
notch training first aid cpr and

3798
02:27:10,788 --> 02:27:12,190
when they're walking the job

3799
02:27:12,256 --> 02:27:14,192
sector proficient in the job

3800
02:27:14,258 --> 02:27:17,195
they're hired for I'm in support

3801
02:27:17,261 --> 02:27:20,498
for sb four twenty three. Thank

3802
02:27:20,565 --> 02:27:25,102
you next to a photo line number

3803
02:27:25,169 --> 02:27:26,337
. Three sixteen. Hello my name

3804
02:27:26,404 --> 02:27:28,806
is a victim of billion a

3805
02:27:28,873 --> 02:27:29,473
carpenter with local seven fifty

3806
02:27:29,540 --> 02:27:30,641
one and sonoma county all

3807
02:27:30,708 --> 02:27:32,510
carpenters up and down all of

3808
02:27:32,577 --> 02:27:33,377
california is very much in

3809
02:27:33,444 --> 02:27:36,080
support of s. B. Four twenty

3810
02:27:36,147 --> 02:27:39,650
three thank you. Thank you next

3811
02:27:39,717 --> 02:27:48,526
to a photo line number. One

3812
02:27:48,593 --> 02:27:50,261
sixty seven. My number one sixty

3813
02:27:50,328 --> 02:27:55,366
seven. We will move on to line

3814
02:27:55,433 --> 02:27:59,470
number one now- nine one oh nine

3815
02:27:59,537 --> 02:28:01,472
. Hi my name is sean kyle with

3816
02:28:01,539 --> 02:28:05,009
ibew five nine five in dublin

3817
02:28:05,076 --> 02:28:06,944
california we represent twenty

3818
02:28:07,011 --> 02:28:08,045
five hundred electric workers

3819
02:28:08,112 --> 02:28:09,880
alameda san joaquin calaveras

3820
02:28:09,947 --> 02:28:12,183
county as- we stand with state

3821
02:28:12,250 --> 02:28:15,152
building trades. In opposition.

3822
02:28:15,219 --> 02:28:18,889
sb four two three thank you.

3823
02:28:18,956 --> 02:28:20,925
thank you next to a photo line

3824
02:28:20,992 --> 02:28:22,893
number three fifty please go

3825
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:25,796
ahead. My name is lisa dance

3826
02:28:25,863 --> 02:28:27,498
with fremont for everyone and we

3827
02:28:27,565 --> 02:28:31,168
proudly support sb four twenty

3828
02:28:31,235 --> 02:28:35,506
three. Thank you. We'll go to

3829
02:28:35,573 --> 02:28:39,810
line number one eleven. His

3830
02:28:39,877 --> 02:28:41,112
excellency with iron workers

3831
02:28:41,178 --> 02:28:43,314
local three seventy eight we

3832
02:28:43,381 --> 02:28:44,782
stand with the state building

3833
02:28:44,849 --> 02:28:46,951
and construction trade an oppose

3834
02:28:47,018 --> 02:28:50,121
unless amended thank you. Thank

3835
02:28:50,187 --> 02:28:54,191
you next to line number three

3836
02:28:54,258 --> 02:28:55,459
four. Hello I would martin

3837
02:28:55,526 --> 02:28:57,628
lawrence summer to do no harm

3838
02:28:57,695 --> 02:29:06,037
and long last report. Thank you

3839
02:29:06,103 --> 02:29:07,438
next we record line them two now

3840
02:29:07,505 --> 02:29:10,041
said the matter motor either

3841
02:29:10,107 --> 02:29:12,843
this will our last- witness via

3842
02:29:12,910 --> 02:29:17,214
the telecom- we have reached our

3843
02:29:17,281 --> 02:29:21,952
. Twenty okay number. Two ninety

3844
02:29:22,019 --> 02:29:22,853
six. Right field rep corporate

3845
02:29:22,920 --> 02:29:26,357
local two skin pools of s. Forty

3846
02:29:26,424 --> 02:29:29,126
three let's build housing. Thank

3847
02:29:29,193 --> 02:29:34,398
you. Thank you. Thank you

3848
02:29:34,465 --> 02:29:36,334
matamata. And think you to all

3849
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:38,102
our super and opposite witness

3850
02:29:38,169 --> 02:29:39,603
will bring that is back to the

3851
02:29:39,670 --> 02:29:42,106
main. No senator burke he had a

3852
02:29:42,173 --> 02:29:43,040
question five thank you madam

3853
02:29:43,107 --> 02:29:43,641
chair- certainly this is an

3854
02:29:43,708 --> 02:29:44,875
illustration of conflicting

3855
02:29:44,942 --> 02:29:47,645
values the value the many of us

3856
02:29:47,712 --> 02:29:48,979
hold to ensure that the work

3857
02:29:49,046 --> 02:29:50,581
force is skilled and trained

3858
02:29:50,648 --> 02:29:51,816
versus the value of creating

3859
02:29:51,882 --> 02:29:53,584
more affordable housing- I'm

3860
02:29:53,651 --> 02:29:56,320
going to support the bill- it's

3861
02:29:56,387 --> 02:29:57,888
going to make it. Long I hope

3862
02:29:57,955 --> 02:29:59,457
not terribly torturous journey

3863
02:29:59,523 --> 02:30:02,426
here to legislature but- I'm

3864
02:30:02,493 --> 02:30:04,962
gonna ask you if you are also

3865
02:30:05,029 --> 02:30:07,698
committed to trying to reconcile

3866
02:30:07,765 --> 02:30:08,733
those two values as it moves

3867
02:30:08,799 --> 02:30:11,802
forward. So if the question is

3868
02:30:11,869 --> 02:30:13,671
am I committed to working with

3869
02:30:13,738 --> 02:30:15,239
the opposition to try to come to

3870
02:30:15,306 --> 02:30:17,141
a resolution on this 1100%

3871
02:30:17,208 --> 02:30:19,243
absolutely as I said earlier it

3872
02:30:19,310 --> 02:30:21,078
takes two to tango. But

3873
02:30:21,145 --> 02:30:22,947
absolutely what what one can I

3874
02:30:23,013 --> 02:30:25,783
do wanna say center but- I'd I

3875
02:30:25,850 --> 02:30:27,451
don't think it's accurate to

3876
02:30:27,518 --> 02:30:29,987
suggest that this fight is

3877
02:30:30,054 --> 02:30:31,655
about- about skilled. Labor

3878
02:30:31,722 --> 02:30:34,024
verses affordable housing the

3879
02:30:34,091 --> 02:30:36,327
language that we have in this

3880
02:30:36,394 --> 02:30:38,996
bill- it died it requires very

3881
02:30:39,063 --> 02:30:41,031
significant labor protections

3882
02:30:41,098 --> 02:30:41,899
and that these are not on

3883
02:30:41,966 --> 02:30:47,538
skilled. Workers it requires.

3884
02:30:47,605 --> 02:30:48,439
effort sort of team workers out

3885
02:30:48,506 --> 02:30:50,274
of. Internship program I'm sure

3886
02:30:50,341 --> 02:30:51,609
that- can talk about how does

3887
02:30:51,675 --> 02:30:54,078
that this is it is a false

3888
02:30:54,145 --> 02:30:55,312
narrative. To say that this is

3889
02:30:55,379 --> 02:30:57,681
gonna be on qualified unskilled

3890
02:30:57,748 --> 02:30:59,517
untrained construction workers

3891
02:30:59,583 --> 02:31:00,751
versus skilled construction

3892
02:31:00,818 --> 02:31:01,952
workers these are different

3893
02:31:02,019 --> 02:31:03,354
labor standards this is.

3894
02:31:03,421 --> 02:31:04,789
replacing one set of labor

3895
02:31:04,855 --> 02:31:06,323
standards with a different set

3896
02:31:06,390 --> 02:31:08,058
of labor standards- and the

3897
02:31:08,125 --> 02:31:09,727
carpenters can explain why it

3898
02:31:09,794 --> 02:31:11,495
will cover many many more.

3899
02:31:11,562 --> 02:31:13,364
construction workers but yes we

3900
02:31:13,431 --> 02:31:15,766
absolutely I'm on my door is

3901
02:31:15,833 --> 02:31:18,569
perpetually open- and my hope is

3902
02:31:18,636 --> 02:31:20,070
to resolve this it's not a fight

3903
02:31:20,137 --> 02:31:22,139
the fight is. As unpleasant for

3904
02:31:22,206 --> 02:31:24,008
me as it is for anyone else but

3905
02:31:24,074 --> 02:31:25,576
I do want to make that one

3906
02:31:25,643 --> 02:31:26,410
clarification thank you center

3907
02:31:26,477 --> 02:31:28,312
where I'm gonna focus on last

3908
02:31:28,379 --> 02:31:31,549
thirty seconds of your answer.

3909
02:31:31,615 --> 02:31:32,783
thank you. Thank you senator

3910
02:31:32,850 --> 02:31:35,352
number I know kelly said keep a

3911
02:31:35,419 --> 02:31:38,055
r. To that's fine you. So do you

3912
02:31:38,122 --> 02:31:39,857
notice several cities in n. And

3913
02:31:39,924 --> 02:31:42,326
their- and their opposition I

3914
02:31:42,393 --> 02:31:44,361
think revolves around. Of the

3915
02:31:44,428 --> 02:31:46,497
fact that- dave really been

3916
02:31:46,564 --> 02:31:49,400
struggling with a cd and getting

3917
02:31:49,467 --> 02:31:51,802
their housing elements approved

3918
02:31:51,869 --> 02:31:55,306
and then we- piled on apr- as a

3919
02:31:55,372 --> 02:31:58,909
method of. Disallowing them to

3920
02:31:58,976 --> 02:32:01,745
that have been approved. Housing

3921
02:32:01,812 --> 02:32:04,281
element or have it in compliance

3922
02:32:04,348 --> 02:32:06,350
they could say. And so what this

3923
02:32:06,417 --> 02:32:08,352
does is it gives a cd that with

3924
02:32:08,419 --> 02:32:09,653
the power over them to.

3925
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:11,155
basically stripped the rights

3926
02:32:11,222 --> 02:32:15,059
away- by not processing in time

3927
02:32:15,125 --> 02:32:16,927
in a timely fashion which is

3928
02:32:16,994 --> 02:32:18,662
been there their big complaint-

3929
02:32:18,729 --> 02:32:20,498
we've heard a little bit from h.

3930
02:32:20,564 --> 02:32:22,066
c. D. That no no it's the

3931
02:32:22,132 --> 02:32:24,268
cities. Well you know there's

3932
02:32:24,335 --> 02:32:25,669
two hundred cities out there

3933
02:32:25,736 --> 02:32:27,338
were more there's actually three

3934
02:32:27,404 --> 02:32:29,406
hundred and eighty three- trying

3935
02:32:29,473 --> 02:32:32,076
to get. In compliance with their

3936
02:32:32,142 --> 02:32:33,844
housing elements so that they

3937
02:32:33,911 --> 02:32:36,380
can deal with the new members

3938
02:32:36,447 --> 02:32:37,181
the rain and numbers that have

3939
02:32:37,248 --> 02:32:39,450
come out. And until that

3940
02:32:39,517 --> 02:32:41,886
disconnect is fixed so that

3941
02:32:41,952 --> 02:32:42,920
there's actually a better

3942
02:32:42,987 --> 02:32:44,722
process for them to get their

3943
02:32:44,788 --> 02:32:46,857
housing element approved hard

3944
02:32:46,924 --> 02:32:49,126
for me to give. An extension in

3945
02:32:49,193 --> 02:32:51,362
time to process it's kind of

3946
02:32:51,428 --> 02:32:53,430
broken right now I'd like to see

3947
02:32:53,497 --> 02:32:56,000
that process addressed- before

3948
02:32:56,066 --> 02:32:58,102
we go on and give an extension

3949
02:32:58,168 --> 02:32:59,637
to an already broken process.

3950
02:32:59,703 --> 02:33:02,006
it's easy for cities that got

3951
02:33:02,072 --> 02:33:04,241
sixty five units. Of affordable

3952
02:33:04,308 --> 02:33:07,144
housing. Put in as their arena

3953
02:33:07,211 --> 02:33:09,947
number but the ones who got

3954
02:33:10,014 --> 02:33:11,081
three thousand to four thousand

3955
02:33:11,148 --> 02:33:12,182
units. Going to be impossible

3956
02:33:12,249 --> 02:33:14,118
for them to do that and housing

3957
02:33:14,184 --> 02:33:15,753
elements don't just get produced

3958
02:33:15,819 --> 02:33:18,422
overnight. You can do in a week

3959
02:33:18,489 --> 02:33:20,391
you can do you can barely do in

3960
02:33:20,457 --> 02:33:22,192
two years. And so that's what

3961
02:33:22,259 --> 02:33:22,760
they're struggling with and

3962
02:33:22,826 --> 02:33:24,495
that's why you heard from some

3963
02:33:24,562 --> 02:33:26,230
of the cities. If we can fix

3964
02:33:26,297 --> 02:33:27,565
that process I'd be more

3965
02:33:27,631 --> 02:33:29,733
inclined. To you to some of

3966
02:33:29,800 --> 02:33:31,669
these other streamlining methods

3967
02:33:31,735 --> 02:33:32,536
because I'm all about

3968
02:33:32,603 --> 02:33:34,305
streamlining but it has to be

3969
02:33:34,371 --> 02:33:37,341
done on our end to end our our

3970
02:33:37,408 --> 02:33:38,242
agencies need to be responsive

3971
02:33:38,309 --> 02:33:39,677
to the cities. They can't just

3972
02:33:39,743 --> 02:33:41,345
say hey you guys didn't do it

3973
02:33:41,412 --> 02:33:43,814
right. Try again. And that's

3974
02:33:43,881 --> 02:33:45,683
what a lot of them have gotten

3975
02:33:45,749 --> 02:33:46,884
really frustrated out there and

3976
02:33:46,951 --> 02:33:48,752
I think- in and I think that's-

3977
02:33:48,819 --> 02:33:50,154
the issue that. You're cities

3978
02:33:50,220 --> 02:33:53,857
are having. So that's my comment

3979
02:33:53,924 --> 02:33:55,659
I don't know if you've talked a

3980
02:33:55,726 --> 02:33:56,827
cd about this. But hard for me

3981
02:33:56,894 --> 02:33:58,596
to support until they fix their

3982
02:33:58,662 --> 02:34:03,934
problems. I mean. I've bob is

3983
02:34:04,001 --> 02:34:05,970
been. Involved with and for

3984
02:34:06,036 --> 02:34:08,238
close monitor. How element. Or

3985
02:34:08,305 --> 02:34:09,540
six. In my said of sanford.

3986
02:34:09,607 --> 02:34:12,509
which would drum. Process knows

3987
02:34:12,576 --> 02:34:13,844
. Is perfect there are also

3988
02:34:13,911 --> 02:34:18,349
cities- that have- there are

3989
02:34:18,415 --> 02:34:19,917
some cities that have have flown

3990
02:34:19,984 --> 02:34:21,852
off of their obligation and

3991
02:34:21,919 --> 02:34:23,587
have. A dog not all there are

3992
02:34:23,654 --> 02:34:24,521
plenty of cities are trying

3993
02:34:24,588 --> 02:34:26,323
really hard but there are

3994
02:34:26,390 --> 02:34:27,358
cities. That have decided they

3995
02:34:27,424 --> 02:34:28,692
were going to continue to do

3996
02:34:28,759 --> 02:34:31,729
what we've allowed them to do

3997
02:34:31,795 --> 02:34:32,363
for decades. Which is to submit

3998
02:34:32,429 --> 02:34:33,964
a- housing element that is never

3999
02:34:34,031 --> 02:34:36,166
going to happen- and then there

4000
02:34:36,233 --> 02:34:37,835
are also in surprise when it

4001
02:34:37,901 --> 02:34:41,005
gets rejected I think it should

4002
02:34:41,071 --> 02:34:42,072
is working very hard. To try to

4003
02:34:42,139 --> 02:34:43,774
certified or not certified

4004
02:34:43,841 --> 02:34:45,309
compliant with the law there

4005
02:34:45,376 --> 02:34:46,877
cities that are frustrated.

4006
02:34:46,944 --> 02:34:48,412
they're also advocates whose

4007
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:49,880
there are plenty of advocates

4008
02:34:49,947 --> 02:34:51,682
you think you city has been too

4009
02:34:51,749 --> 02:34:53,250
soft in some cities so it should

4010
02:34:53,317 --> 02:34:54,551
is getting pulled in a lot of

4011
02:34:54,618 --> 02:34:55,586
different directions right now

4012
02:34:55,653 --> 02:34:57,187
and I think they're acting.

4013
02:34:57,254 --> 02:35:01,892
working in good faith to try to.

4014
02:35:01,959 --> 02:35:05,663
to resolve it. Thank you centers

4015
02:35:05,729 --> 02:35:07,398
it there to we have senator will

4016
02:35:07,464 --> 02:35:10,100
hop with the question center

4017
02:35:10,167 --> 02:35:12,469
skinner and sutter cortese.

4018
02:35:12,536 --> 02:35:14,038
thank you. Thank you to

4019
02:35:14,104 --> 02:35:16,040
everybody who spoke- I'll

4020
02:35:16,106 --> 02:35:18,075
actually move this item- and

4021
02:35:18,142 --> 02:35:19,643
hoping that the author of the

4022
02:35:19,710 --> 02:35:20,511
carpenters in the building

4023
02:35:20,577 --> 02:35:23,180
trades all work together- on

4024
02:35:23,247 --> 02:35:26,016
both sides- to kind of come to

4025
02:35:26,083 --> 02:35:27,284
some type of agreement moving

4026
02:35:27,351 --> 02:35:29,253
forward- this is a housing

4027
02:35:29,319 --> 02:35:30,554
committee and we do need

4028
02:35:30,621 --> 02:35:31,622
affordable housing we also need.

4029
02:35:31,689 --> 02:35:34,024
a good paying jobs and I'd like

4030
02:35:34,091 --> 02:35:35,426
for all of us to come together

4031
02:35:35,492 --> 02:35:36,393
rather than- see what we're

4032
02:35:36,460 --> 02:35:40,564
seeing right now- so- for this

4033
02:35:40,631 --> 02:35:41,765
committee I will be moving this

4034
02:35:41,832 --> 02:35:42,933
forward thank you. Thank you

4035
02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:47,237
senator boxer skinner. Thank

4036
02:35:47,304 --> 02:35:50,240
you- I want to ask a little more

4037
02:35:50,307 --> 02:35:52,876
specific question in terms of-

4038
02:35:52,943 --> 02:36:00,150
the. The work to try to get

4039
02:36:00,217 --> 02:36:03,120
agreements- and this is by

4040
02:36:03,187 --> 02:36:04,855
completely understand the

4041
02:36:04,922 --> 02:36:08,092
opposition's. Ab for rather I've

4042
02:36:08,158 --> 02:36:09,626
heard it loud and clear so I am

4043
02:36:09,693 --> 02:36:12,663
not trying to assume that the

4044
02:36:12,730 --> 02:36:16,033
opposition is- not sincere in

4045
02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:18,969
their opposition or- is ready to

4046
02:36:19,036 --> 02:36:21,672
speak full. But what I wanted to

4047
02:36:21,739 --> 02:36:23,807
race is that what the farm

4048
02:36:23,874 --> 02:36:26,243
beyond the sunset. What's being

4049
02:36:26,310 --> 02:36:29,413
changed from what we approved in

4050
02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:31,115
thirty five sb thirty five. Or

4051
02:36:31,181 --> 02:36:34,518
so- as the number of units in

4052
02:36:34,585 --> 02:36:35,953
particular projects that's one

4053
02:36:36,019 --> 02:36:37,988
of the main changes in terms of

4054
02:36:38,055 --> 02:36:39,723
these are the labor standards

4055
02:36:39,790 --> 02:36:42,192
correct hello so it has to be

4056
02:36:42,259 --> 02:36:44,461
clear on what the change was

4057
02:36:44,528 --> 02:36:45,529
under under the original sb

4058
02:36:45,596 --> 02:36:46,864
thirty five for anything for

4059
02:36:46,930 --> 02:36:48,532
anything that was at least 50%

4060
02:36:48,599 --> 02:36:50,200
to fifty to a 100% below market

4061
02:36:50,267 --> 02:36:51,735
rate the restricted. It was

4062
02:36:51,802 --> 02:36:54,238
straight up prevailing wage for

4063
02:36:54,304 --> 02:36:56,240
anything that was mixed income

4064
02:36:56,306 --> 02:36:59,676
below above I think twenty five

4065
02:36:59,743 --> 02:37:01,178
units I believe that's the

4066
02:37:01,245 --> 02:37:03,614
number it's gone up to- was-

4067
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:05,582
skilled. Skilled workforce-

4068
02:37:05,649 --> 02:37:10,954
this- replaces dive- structure

4069
02:37:11,021 --> 02:37:12,923
with prevailing wage for

4070
02:37:12,990 --> 02:37:14,925
anything eleven and above and

4071
02:37:14,992 --> 02:37:16,960
what once it hits fifty that and

4072
02:37:17,027 --> 02:37:18,295
the health care requirements

4073
02:37:18,362 --> 02:37:20,264
kicked and as well as the- the

4074
02:37:20,330 --> 02:37:23,033
apprenticeship- requirements in

4075
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:25,302
the bill and the wage theft is

4076
02:37:25,369 --> 02:37:27,104
ubiquitous throughout that sort

4077
02:37:27,171 --> 02:37:28,739
of a how the structure change

4078
02:37:28,806 --> 02:37:35,813
okay. So I guess. And again I

4079
02:37:35,879 --> 02:37:37,681
don't want to for the off but-

4080
02:37:37,748 --> 02:37:39,883
what I want to you is your will.

4081
02:37:39,950 --> 02:37:42,219
to modify some of those either

4082
02:37:42,286 --> 02:37:44,087
the numbers if that's the issue

4083
02:37:44,154 --> 02:37:46,523
. Or or is it the range is it

4084
02:37:46,590 --> 02:37:49,159
the mix of units in terms of

4085
02:37:49,226 --> 02:37:52,729
mix- ford or portable. Again

4086
02:37:52,796 --> 02:37:54,932
trying not yet presuming that

4087
02:37:54,998 --> 02:37:59,369
what would address opposition

4088
02:37:59,436 --> 02:38:01,104
concerns right before your- yes

4089
02:38:01,171 --> 02:38:04,842
so I don't hi- to on the go

4090
02:38:04,908 --> 02:38:05,709
share against myself I'm happy

4091
02:38:05,776 --> 02:38:07,644
to sit down I'm sure with the

4092
02:38:07,711 --> 02:38:09,313
carpenters the trades and to try

4093
02:38:09,379 --> 02:38:11,949
to- have been negotiation.

4094
02:38:12,015 --> 02:38:13,917
absolutely my door is always

4095
02:38:13,984 --> 02:38:18,655
open- you know in in terms of

4096
02:38:18,722 --> 02:38:19,590
what will be included in that

4097
02:38:19,656 --> 02:38:21,425
negotiation and there were there

4098
02:38:21,491 --> 02:38:22,359
are some items in the trades

4099
02:38:22,426 --> 02:38:24,528
opposition letters. Which are

4100
02:38:24,595 --> 02:38:26,396
items that are in about the

4101
02:38:26,463 --> 02:38:27,698
skilled workforce versus prime

4102
02:38:27,764 --> 02:38:29,566
wage which we think our trust in

4103
02:38:29,633 --> 02:38:31,335
the bill but- you know sometimes

4104
02:38:31,401 --> 02:38:32,569
people say you you think you're

4105
02:38:32,636 --> 02:38:34,104
addressing it but it's drafted

4106
02:38:34,171 --> 02:38:35,706
wrong and my- responses well

4107
02:38:35,772 --> 02:38:37,307
tell me how it struck the wrongs

4108
02:38:37,374 --> 02:38:39,109
I want to drop things correctly.

4109
02:38:39,176 --> 02:38:40,444
to some of the items in the in

4110
02:38:40,510 --> 02:38:42,145
the trades opposition letter.

4111
02:38:42,212 --> 02:38:44,114
are you know I think I've been

4112
02:38:44,181 --> 02:38:45,749
dressed but if not then I just

4113
02:38:45,816 --> 02:38:48,252
want to know exactly how not and

4114
02:38:48,318 --> 02:38:50,120
to my interest to know if they-

4115
02:38:50,187 --> 02:38:52,456
if they think it hasn't been-

4116
02:38:52,522 --> 02:38:53,891
address but I. My sense- having

4117
02:38:53,957 --> 02:38:55,659
spoken the traits a lot about

4118
02:38:55,726 --> 02:38:57,461
this is that the skilled

4119
02:38:57,527 --> 02:38:59,096
workforce versus prime which is

4120
02:38:59,162 --> 02:39:02,232
at the heart of it- and- you

4121
02:39:02,299 --> 02:39:05,369
know weeds- like I said we were

4122
02:39:05,435 --> 02:39:07,905
by aye I am very much would like

4123
02:39:07,971 --> 02:39:09,640
to. Resolve it hi. I think

4124
02:39:09,706 --> 02:39:11,174
you're- I think it would be a

4125
02:39:11,241 --> 02:39:13,977
good thing- unfortunately you

4126
02:39:14,044 --> 02:39:16,246
know like I said- I won said in

4127
02:39:16,313 --> 02:39:17,547
a letter to us you know not

4128
02:39:17,614 --> 02:39:20,384
reply won't talk about tangling

4129
02:39:20,450 --> 02:39:20,984
weren't willingness to. Have

4130
02:39:21,051 --> 02:39:22,619
those open discuss yes because

4131
02:39:22,686 --> 02:39:31,495
I'm usually the quiet. One of

4132
02:39:31,561 --> 02:39:33,463
the movement on your part to.

4133
02:39:33,530 --> 02:39:38,902
yes I. We never. Means everyone

4134
02:39:38,969 --> 02:39:41,672
is going to- to open my- you

4135
02:39:41,738 --> 02:39:43,941
know I think I want to be here

4136
02:39:44,007 --> 02:39:45,542
one and what I love love about.

4137
02:39:45,609 --> 02:39:47,377
I know it's been long. As both

4138
02:39:47,444 --> 02:39:49,212
were like were our house we are

4139
02:39:49,279 --> 02:39:50,447
with streamlining right the are

4140
02:39:50,514 --> 02:39:52,115
not saying category oppose or

4141
02:39:52,182 --> 02:39:53,984
pose unless some. Because we

4142
02:39:54,051 --> 02:39:56,320
have. To major labor organ. That

4143
02:39:56,386 --> 02:39:59,156
have disagreement about which is

4144
02:39:59,222 --> 02:40:01,892
the best- labor protections

4145
02:40:01,959 --> 02:40:06,763
right we have the trades have.

4146
02:40:06,830 --> 02:40:07,798
your advocating from. Side of

4147
02:40:07,864 --> 02:40:09,599
the carpenters are advocating

4148
02:40:09,666 --> 02:40:11,902
different of protections they

4149
02:40:11,969 --> 02:40:13,537
both I think authentically

4150
02:40:13,603 --> 02:40:15,005
believe it their protections are

4151
02:40:15,072 --> 02:40:18,408
better- and you know. We had to

4152
02:40:18,475 --> 02:40:20,210
go shuzhen twenty seventeen

4153
02:40:20,277 --> 02:40:21,578
actually with the carpenters

4154
02:40:21,645 --> 02:40:23,347
work involved we came to a

4155
02:40:23,413 --> 02:40:25,615
resolution the traits of told me

4156
02:40:25,682 --> 02:40:27,451
for the last few years that they

4157
02:40:27,517 --> 02:40:30,220
don't support. Anymore the deal

4158
02:40:30,287 --> 02:40:30,754
they agreed to in twenty

4159
02:40:30,821 --> 02:40:31,788
seventeen which I respect no one

4160
02:40:31,855 --> 02:40:33,256
is permanently bound to anything

4161
02:40:33,323 --> 02:40:35,225
near deal that they agree to

4162
02:40:35,292 --> 02:40:37,427
people can change our minds-

4163
02:40:37,494 --> 02:40:40,230
but- you know I think initiation

4164
02:40:40,297 --> 02:40:42,199
you know and that kind of

4165
02:40:42,265 --> 02:40:43,533
dialogue. Would be helpful as

4166
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:45,168
you can tell them temperatures a

4167
02:40:45,235 --> 02:40:47,371
little bit high- not right now

4168
02:40:47,437 --> 02:40:49,206
but we've all seen that with

4169
02:40:49,272 --> 02:40:50,874
bills that I think. Everyone had

4170
02:40:50,941 --> 02:40:52,376
bills that temperature gets

4171
02:40:52,442 --> 02:40:54,311
really high. And then as things

4172
02:40:54,378 --> 02:40:59,549
progress. Over the course of

4173
02:40:59,616 --> 02:41:00,384
legislative year. People start

4174
02:41:00,450 --> 02:41:01,518
talking come to table. The

4175
02:41:01,585 --> 02:41:03,820
temperature really on ab twenty

4176
02:41:03,887 --> 02:41:05,822
eleven last year and there was a

4177
02:41:05,889 --> 02:41:08,425
deal cut in in august so- I

4178
02:41:08,492 --> 02:41:10,093
would love for that to happen.

4179
02:41:10,160 --> 02:41:11,928
not everyone has to be open

4180
02:41:11,995 --> 02:41:13,430
minded. Myself included and all

4181
02:41:13,497 --> 02:41:17,868
the stakeholders to do that.

4182
02:41:17,934 --> 02:41:20,337
thank you senator skinner- we

4183
02:41:20,404 --> 02:41:23,440
have center cortese. Thank you

4184
02:41:23,507 --> 02:41:25,642
thank you mister. I have a

4185
02:41:25,709 --> 02:41:26,977
question for the author which is

4186
02:41:27,044 --> 02:41:29,479
not a work for standards. You

4187
02:41:29,546 --> 02:41:31,882
know and then I have- actually

4188
02:41:31,948 --> 02:41:36,186
the question. Each for- the

4189
02:41:36,253 --> 02:41:38,221
carpenters and in the building

4190
02:41:38,288 --> 02:41:41,425
trades. Just so- one each six of

4191
02:41:41,491 --> 02:41:44,995
the tornadoes. The question I

4192
02:41:45,062 --> 02:41:49,366
have- for the author. And you

4193
02:41:49,433 --> 02:41:52,169
may recollect this- engine in

4194
02:41:52,235 --> 02:41:54,037
this in the past and some other.

4195
02:41:54,104 --> 02:41:56,673
in some other. Form of saddam

4196
02:41:56,740 --> 02:42:00,077
committee hearing. We have. In

4197
02:42:00,143 --> 02:42:04,881
in san jose- ten council

4198
02:42:04,948 --> 02:42:08,385
districts the- comprises about a

4199
02:42:08,452 --> 02:42:08,952
hundred thousand population

4200
02:42:09,019 --> 02:42:11,822
each. Each one having a single

4201
02:42:11,888 --> 02:42:13,490
calls member representing the-

4202
02:42:13,557 --> 02:42:17,994
m. As sb thirty five has. Been

4203
02:42:18,061 --> 02:42:20,363
successfully applied and utilize

4204
02:42:20,430 --> 02:42:23,567
their- what we're experiencing

4205
02:42:23,633 --> 02:42:28,638
is- cancel members world and I

4206
02:42:28,705 --> 02:42:30,474
don't mean the entire council.

4207
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:33,510
but only in in fairness to

4208
02:42:33,577 --> 02:42:34,578
people not being here will

4209
02:42:34,644 --> 02:42:37,080
mention specific names. But

4210
02:42:37,147 --> 02:42:41,084
essentially- in in very clearly

4211
02:42:41,151 --> 02:42:43,887
telling constituencies- court

4212
02:42:43,954 --> 02:42:45,922
residential constituencies

4213
02:42:45,989 --> 02:42:49,326
surrounding developed- I'm sorry

4214
02:42:49,392 --> 02:42:51,628
sites that are to be developed.

4215
02:42:51,695 --> 02:42:54,865
the because of sb thirty five-

4216
02:42:54,931 --> 02:42:57,267
are precluded from from holding

4217
02:42:57,334 --> 02:43:01,204
any meaningful hearings or

4218
02:43:01,271 --> 02:43:02,172
discussions with the community.

4219
02:43:02,239 --> 02:43:05,675
on those projects. I know. That

4220
02:43:05,742 --> 02:43:08,044
that's not in the bill I know

4221
02:43:08,111 --> 02:43:09,346
that serving in the bill

4222
02:43:09,412 --> 02:43:12,182
understand the bill would- in

4223
02:43:12,249 --> 02:43:14,251
effect do away with the

4224
02:43:14,317 --> 02:43:16,720
necessity of a secret here read-

4225
02:43:16,786 --> 02:43:19,189
but it also knows that there's a

4226
02:43:19,256 --> 02:43:21,224
whole set of hearings leading up

4227
02:43:21,291 --> 02:43:22,392
to that moment including general

4228
02:43:22,459 --> 02:43:24,861
plan hearings- zoning hearings

4229
02:43:24,928 --> 02:43:26,596
in in a lot of other things.

4230
02:43:26,663 --> 02:43:27,998
where the city council puts

4231
02:43:28,064 --> 02:43:30,567
imprint on what they want to see

4232
02:43:30,634 --> 02:43:32,769
an area. Including objectives

4233
02:43:32,836 --> 02:43:36,973
only standards that said- is

4234
02:43:37,040 --> 02:43:39,142
what can be done. With the

4235
02:43:39,209 --> 02:43:42,879
extension. Of the sb thirty five

4236
02:43:42,946 --> 02:43:44,848
through this bill for twenty

4237
02:43:44,915 --> 02:43:47,150
three this time around- to give

4238
02:43:47,217 --> 02:43:49,719
us a fair shot is legislators in

4239
02:43:49,786 --> 02:43:53,957
in terms of reporting- those.

4240
02:43:54,024 --> 02:43:54,958
misleading statements are women

4241
02:43:55,025 --> 02:43:56,459
call the misunderstandings

4242
02:43:56,526 --> 02:43:57,460
because it's hard for me to

4243
02:43:57,527 --> 02:44:01,765
believe that any. City is- let

4244
02:44:01,831 --> 02:44:03,533
alone one as sophisticated as

4245
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:04,668
the third largest city the city

4246
02:44:04,734 --> 02:44:06,736
california is in getting the

4247
02:44:06,803 --> 02:44:08,405
proper legal advice in the

4248
02:44:08,471 --> 02:44:10,240
proper understanding of the bill

4249
02:44:10,307 --> 02:44:12,909
like this before they go out and

4250
02:44:12,976 --> 02:44:13,977
talk to their constituents.

4251
02:44:14,044 --> 02:44:15,245
regis it seems to me that we

4252
02:44:15,312 --> 02:44:17,280
need to do some of that work if

4253
02:44:17,347 --> 02:44:18,682
we want not to have blame

4254
02:44:18,748 --> 02:44:21,284
shifting going on for a lack of

4255
02:44:21,351 --> 02:44:22,886
community process in the

4256
02:44:22,953 --> 02:44:24,054
neighborhoods could you speak to

4257
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:26,056
that agent one of there's a

4258
02:44:26,122 --> 02:44:26,990
willingness to try to. Come up

4259
02:44:27,057 --> 02:44:28,925
with something- in terms of

4260
02:44:28,992 --> 02:44:30,660
state assistance maybe through a

4261
02:44:30,727 --> 02:44:33,330
cd or somehow to get the word

4262
02:44:33,396 --> 02:44:35,332
out constituents that they do

4263
02:44:35,398 --> 02:44:35,865
have the right to continue

4264
02:44:35,932 --> 02:44:38,068
asking for. Community meetings

4265
02:44:38,134 --> 02:44:41,071
and discussion yeah. One thing

4266
02:44:41,137 --> 02:44:42,505
that- figured about does not

4267
02:44:42,572 --> 02:44:44,841
hello. The ability to facilitate

4268
02:44:44,908 --> 02:44:46,343
wants to hold a hearing or or

4269
02:44:46,409 --> 02:44:48,311
neighborhood meeting. They can

4270
02:44:48,378 --> 02:44:50,880
do that- in my experience having

4271
02:44:50,947 --> 02:44:52,315
watched the implementation of

4272
02:44:52,382 --> 02:44:54,184
this bill for carefully for the

4273
02:44:54,251 --> 02:44:56,586
last five years. If you are try

4274
02:44:56,653 --> 02:44:58,622
if you're a developer with your

4275
02:44:58,688 --> 02:44:59,222
nonprofit for will developer

4276
02:44:59,289 --> 02:45:00,991
mark redevelopment if you were.

4277
02:45:01,057 --> 02:45:02,626
in this and this for this whole

4278
02:45:02,692 --> 02:45:03,994
affordable developers because

4279
02:45:04,060 --> 02:45:05,462
there has been very very little

4280
02:45:05,528 --> 02:45:09,165
on the market rate side- but- it

4281
02:45:09,232 --> 02:45:11,601
is in your interest. To engage

4282
02:45:11,668 --> 02:45:13,603
with the local community even

4283
02:45:13,670 --> 02:45:14,804
though you have the ability to

4284
02:45:14,871 --> 02:45:16,773
trigger a three thirty five and

4285
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:18,008
your- annual alternately trigger

4286
02:45:18,074 --> 02:45:19,909
it. Which will protect the bill

4287
02:45:19,976 --> 02:45:21,444
from sickle education for

4288
02:45:21,511 --> 02:45:23,346
example. Five your life is gonna

4289
02:45:23,413 --> 02:45:25,582
be a heck of a lot easier. If

4290
02:45:25,649 --> 02:45:27,083
you have engage with the

4291
02:45:27,150 --> 02:45:28,451
community and with the city

4292
02:45:28,518 --> 02:45:30,520
council pine department- because

4293
02:45:30,587 --> 02:45:32,289
sometimes it may be that they

4294
02:45:32,355 --> 02:45:34,291
just want a few changes here and

4295
02:45:34,357 --> 02:45:35,792
there consider this. And then it

4296
02:45:35,859 --> 02:45:37,627
de escalates the situation and

4297
02:45:37,694 --> 02:45:38,962
because you do have cities to

4298
02:45:39,029 --> 02:45:40,530
try to nit pick every every

4299
02:45:40,597 --> 02:45:41,998
little possible loophole it's a

4300
02:45:42,065 --> 02:45:43,833
lot easier if the city is like.

4301
02:45:43,900 --> 02:45:45,335
okay we're okay with this

4302
02:45:45,402 --> 02:45:47,270
projects were not going to do

4303
02:45:47,337 --> 02:45:49,239
that. And so and I think a lot

4304
02:45:49,306 --> 02:45:50,674
of the not not every developer

4305
02:45:50,740 --> 02:45:52,542
there's a range of developers.

4306
02:45:52,609 --> 02:45:53,610
but there are plenty of

4307
02:45:53,677 --> 02:45:54,344
developers who I think do. Not

4308
02:45:54,411 --> 02:45:56,913
engage ahead of time and sb

4309
02:45:56,980 --> 02:45:58,548
thirty five. Allows them to

4310
02:45:58,615 --> 02:46:00,583
protect that. Of the project

4311
02:46:00,650 --> 02:46:03,286
from from from the lawsuit so

4312
02:46:03,353 --> 02:46:04,721
it. Any idea maybe you and I

4313
02:46:04,788 --> 02:46:07,257
should talk any ideas you have

4314
02:46:07,324 --> 02:46:14,230
I'm. I'm open to it- I mean into

4315
02:46:14,297 --> 02:46:16,399
times so. Part to it might take

4316
02:46:16,466 --> 02:46:19,436
some of. Very modest you know

4317
02:46:19,502 --> 02:46:20,437
budgetary. Appropriation or some

4318
02:46:20,503 --> 02:46:22,238
it's just the back. This of

4319
02:46:22,305 --> 02:46:24,207
works upper apart for the bill.

4320
02:46:24,274 --> 02:46:25,575
but would love to work with you

4321
02:46:25,642 --> 02:46:29,479
on. In make sure of. In we're

4322
02:46:29,546 --> 02:46:31,081
defending the good that.

4323
02:46:31,147 --> 02:46:33,283
contained herein the in the disk

4324
02:46:33,350 --> 02:46:35,719
- going- can you do to. Those

4325
02:46:35,785 --> 02:46:38,588
per. For the to call. I have

4326
02:46:38,655 --> 02:46:41,057
first. For the car. Of that so

4327
02:46:41,124 --> 02:46:42,559
internal the any kerr is still

4328
02:46:42,625 --> 02:46:44,327
here some who can. A question.

4329
02:46:44,394 --> 02:46:50,633
on their behalf. Is this is this

4330
02:46:50,700 --> 02:46:51,534
is a it's a pretty

4331
02:46:51,601 --> 02:46:53,103
straightforward question here so

4332
02:46:53,169 --> 02:46:56,306
I know it's not overly technical

4333
02:46:56,373 --> 02:46:59,075
in nature- let me preface this

4334
02:46:59,142 --> 02:47:02,579
by saying. I've so not recently

4335
02:47:02,645 --> 02:47:04,948
visited the- the new carpenter's

4336
02:47:05,014 --> 02:47:07,817
apprenticeship center of the on

4337
02:47:07,884 --> 02:47:10,019
the south county santa clara

4338
02:47:10,086 --> 02:47:12,622
county- it's just as recently.

4339
02:47:12,689 --> 02:47:15,625
of visited. Huh the sheet metal

4340
02:47:15,692 --> 02:47:18,528
workers- beautiful training

4341
02:47:18,595 --> 02:47:21,965
center- in the city of san jose.

4342
02:47:22,031 --> 02:47:24,134
both of these facilities as- was

4343
02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:25,702
explained to me at the time

4344
02:47:25,769 --> 02:47:28,638
we're not only state of the art

4345
02:47:28,705 --> 02:47:31,307
but have capacity. Capacity to-

4346
02:47:31,374 --> 02:47:34,244
you know to add a premises. Into

4347
02:47:34,310 --> 02:47:36,312
attached them to jobs. When I

4348
02:47:36,379 --> 02:47:38,114
read the language in the

4349
02:47:38,181 --> 02:47:40,884
standards. In this bill asking

4350
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:42,485
the but this of the carpenters

4351
02:47:42,552 --> 02:47:45,722
because- of your support for the

4352
02:47:45,789 --> 02:47:48,892
bill sponsorship of the bill- it

4353
02:47:48,958 --> 02:47:53,930
appears to me. If I'm if I'm

4354
02:47:53,997 --> 02:47:56,099
reading this right in the marina

4355
02:47:56,166 --> 02:47:59,135
verbatim all of- the on page six

4356
02:47:59,202 --> 02:48:03,740
of sixteen of my documents here

4357
02:48:03,807 --> 02:48:04,974
- culture to the construction

4358
02:48:05,041 --> 02:48:07,143
cowboys must either participate

4359
02:48:07,210 --> 02:48:08,445
in an apprenticeship program

4360
02:48:08,511 --> 02:48:10,213
pruebas de california division

4361
02:48:10,280 --> 02:48:12,115
of apprenticeship standards. As

4362
02:48:12,182 --> 02:48:15,919
specified for request. The

4363
02:48:15,985 --> 02:48:17,487
dispatch of the princes from the

4364
02:48:17,554 --> 02:48:19,689
state approved apprenticeship

4365
02:48:19,756 --> 02:48:21,791
program as specified. So if the

4366
02:48:21,858 --> 02:48:24,861
contractor chooses. For the

4367
02:48:24,928 --> 02:48:27,130
second part of that work request

4368
02:48:27,197 --> 02:48:29,032
the dispatch of apprenticeships

4369
02:48:29,098 --> 02:48:31,234
rather than participate. In

4370
02:48:31,301 --> 02:48:33,403
apprenticeship program what

4371
02:48:33,470 --> 02:48:37,674
guarantee do we have. Of adding

4372
02:48:37,740 --> 02:48:41,811
or filling. Up the carpenters

4373
02:48:41,878 --> 02:48:43,580
apprenticeship program for the

4374
02:48:43,646 --> 02:48:45,014
sheet metal workers or anybody

4375
02:48:45,081 --> 02:48:47,617
else is it seems to me that. If

4376
02:48:47,684 --> 02:48:48,785
they request the dispatch of

4377
02:48:48,852 --> 02:48:51,521
apprenticeships apprenticeships

4378
02:48:51,588 --> 02:48:54,924
of a- for that job- in the

4379
02:48:54,991 --> 02:48:57,627
responses we don't have. A put

4380
02:48:57,694 --> 02:48:59,429
up enough to send out but we

4381
02:48:59,496 --> 02:49:01,297
don't we need to send out. That

4382
02:49:01,364 --> 02:49:03,132
the contractors off the hook you

4383
02:49:03,199 --> 02:49:04,834
know in terms of driving

4384
02:49:04,901 --> 02:49:06,202
apprenticeship and training and

4385
02:49:06,269 --> 02:49:08,805
enrollment in the trades could

4386
02:49:08,872 --> 02:49:12,408
you respond to the certainly-

4387
02:49:12,475 --> 02:49:13,676
and thank you for the question

4388
02:49:13,743 --> 02:49:14,711
senator. The language that

4389
02:49:14,777 --> 02:49:16,346
you've quoted is a substantially

4390
02:49:16,412 --> 02:49:17,847
the same language that is

4391
02:49:17,914 --> 02:49:20,083
applied for decades to the

4392
02:49:20,149 --> 02:49:21,251
public works sector of

4393
02:49:21,317 --> 02:49:23,219
california which is accounting

4394
02:49:23,286 --> 02:49:24,888
for about 20% of all

4395
02:49:24,954 --> 02:49:27,090
construction in the state of

4396
02:49:27,156 --> 02:49:29,792
california. Where it is either

4397
02:49:29,859 --> 02:49:31,528
shall employer shall request.

4398
02:49:31,594 --> 02:49:33,596
it's also language and we have

4399
02:49:33,663 --> 02:49:35,765
successfully put thousands of

4400
02:49:35,832 --> 02:49:37,934
apprentices we have nineteen

4401
02:49:38,001 --> 02:49:38,968
thousand carpenter and drywall

4402
02:49:39,035 --> 02:49:40,870
and power driver premises

4403
02:49:40,937 --> 02:49:43,006
throughout the state that are

4404
02:49:43,072 --> 02:49:45,108
actively registered as is-

4405
02:49:45,174 --> 02:49:45,742
brother brad shaw said earlier

4406
02:49:45,808 --> 02:49:48,211
turned out. And had graduated

4407
02:49:48,278 --> 02:49:51,281
more than any other single union

4408
02:49:51,347 --> 02:49:52,615
in the state. It public works

4409
02:49:52,682 --> 02:49:54,584
has been in an important part

4410
02:49:54,651 --> 02:49:56,119
along with private work for a

4411
02:49:56,185 --> 02:49:57,620
check a cheating that level of

4412
02:49:57,687 --> 02:49:59,789
success. I would also note that

4413
02:49:59,856 --> 02:50:01,591
the language of having that

4414
02:50:01,658 --> 02:50:03,526
request a good faith effort

4415
02:50:03,593 --> 02:50:05,762
which is has to be documented-

4416
02:50:05,828 --> 02:50:08,565
is parallel to th at the federal

4417
02:50:08,631 --> 02:50:10,667
level language in the inflation

4418
02:50:10,733 --> 02:50:13,536
reduction act. Enacted in twenty

4419
02:50:13,603 --> 02:50:14,470
twenty to the state building and

4420
02:50:14,537 --> 02:50:15,805
construction trades council

4421
02:50:15,872 --> 02:50:18,141
lauded as a massive win for

4422
02:50:18,207 --> 02:50:20,310
californian californians. It's

4423
02:50:20,376 --> 02:50:22,111
language that in with that puts

4424
02:50:22,178 --> 02:50:24,380
forward pairs prevailing wages

4425
02:50:24,447 --> 02:50:25,481
with the partnership that's been

4426
02:50:25,548 --> 02:50:26,916
a winning combination for

4427
02:50:26,983 --> 02:50:30,219
decades already. For the ira it

4428
02:50:30,286 --> 02:50:32,322
is the inflation reduction

4429
02:50:32,388 --> 02:50:35,625
activities to expand into a new

4430
02:50:35,692 --> 02:50:37,694
market place for energy

4431
02:50:37,760 --> 02:50:40,129
efficiency work supported by tax

4432
02:50:40,196 --> 02:50:42,432
credits. Similarly given the non

4433
02:50:42,498 --> 02:50:44,167
union status of the private

4434
02:50:44,233 --> 02:50:46,736
residential world and I should

4435
02:50:46,803 --> 02:50:49,806
note half of publicly subsidized

4436
02:50:49,872 --> 02:50:52,075
a 100% affordable housing which

4437
02:50:52,141 --> 02:50:58,147
is not. We will be expanding.

4438
02:50:58,214 --> 02:50:59,949
massively in fact we already

4439
02:51:00,016 --> 02:51:02,185
have over the past five years of

4440
02:51:02,251 --> 02:51:05,121
sb thirty five being in effect

4441
02:51:05,188 --> 02:51:07,256
have seen dozens of projects.

4442
02:51:07,323 --> 02:51:09,726
that have employed union journey

4443
02:51:09,792 --> 02:51:11,861
level workers and union

4444
02:51:11,928 --> 02:51:13,930
registered apprentices on the

4445
02:51:13,997 --> 02:51:16,265
other hand we have not seen.

4446
02:51:16,332 --> 02:51:18,534
union journey level. Workers

4447
02:51:18,601 --> 02:51:20,370
party or union apprentices

4448
02:51:20,436 --> 02:51:23,106
employed on projects that are

4449
02:51:23,172 --> 02:51:24,574
held to a skilled and trained

4450
02:51:24,641 --> 02:51:25,174
workforce pro. Stand

4451
02:51:25,241 --> 02:51:28,478
requirements retinoid. I didn't

4452
02:51:28,544 --> 02:51:31,180
say I want. To impose somebody

4453
02:51:31,247 --> 02:51:32,582
else's language I'm just asking

4454
02:51:32,649 --> 02:51:33,983
you why have permissive

4455
02:51:34,050 --> 02:51:38,221
language. Win win. And I know

4456
02:51:38,287 --> 02:51:39,589
appreciate everything the

4457
02:51:39,656 --> 02:51:43,426
carbons are done to- to grow and

4458
02:51:43,493 --> 02:51:44,861
develop their own apprenticeship

4459
02:51:44,927 --> 02:51:46,963
program. Larger than the any any

4460
02:51:47,030 --> 02:51:49,365
other union within the overall

4461
02:51:49,432 --> 02:51:51,567
scope of the building trades but

4462
02:51:51,634 --> 02:51:53,403
I also know from first talking

4463
02:51:53,469 --> 02:51:54,003
to your leadership that the

4464
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:56,272
objective is to grow that much

4465
02:51:56,339 --> 02:51:57,874
more to keep growing as- an and

4466
02:51:57,940 --> 02:52:00,643
I don't know how you get there.

4467
02:52:00,710 --> 02:52:02,011
that's why I asked the question

4468
02:52:02,078 --> 02:52:02,679
how do you assure us for

4469
02:52:02,745 --> 02:52:04,447
guaranteed us that this language

4470
02:52:04,514 --> 02:52:06,015
gets you there if it's

4471
02:52:06,082 --> 02:52:06,616
permissible would make more

4472
02:52:06,683 --> 02:52:14,557
sense to say. That. Good have

4473
02:52:14,624 --> 02:52:16,993
these first two. In language.

4474
02:52:17,060 --> 02:52:18,061
that you could part to in this

4475
02:52:18,127 --> 02:52:26,736
program for re this premises-

4476
02:52:26,803 --> 02:52:27,937
for- or in role. Your work force

4477
02:52:28,004 --> 02:52:28,805
in the apprenticeship program

4478
02:52:28,871 --> 02:52:31,274
that current exists. What what

4479
02:52:31,340 --> 02:52:33,209
would it say that. There's no.

4480
02:52:33,276 --> 02:52:34,911
that there's put of non union

4481
02:52:34,977 --> 02:52:36,179
workers and every one of these

4482
02:52:36,245 --> 02:52:37,914
jobs at the builders are saying

4483
02:52:37,980 --> 02:52:39,882
we want more housing production

4484
02:52:39,949 --> 02:52:40,717
that's what we're doing this

4485
02:52:40,783 --> 02:52:42,585
bill we want. Teams to

4486
02:52:42,652 --> 02:52:43,686
streamline things we need to

4487
02:52:43,753 --> 02:52:45,521
move quicker we've got people

4488
02:52:45,588 --> 02:52:47,490
that want to go to work. Where

4489
02:52:47,557 --> 02:52:49,859
we then seen wonderful will

4490
02:52:49,926 --> 02:52:52,228
streamline. The objective so you

4491
02:52:52,295 --> 02:52:54,731
can get your developments done

4492
02:52:54,797 --> 02:52:56,866
much more quickly. But in

4493
02:52:56,933 --> 02:53:00,203
exchange you need to do not just

4494
02:53:00,269 --> 02:53:01,904
two of these things

4495
02:53:01,971 --> 02:53:03,840
permissibility if they work and

4496
02:53:03,906 --> 02:53:06,109
if they don't proceed nonunion-

4497
02:53:06,175 --> 02:53:09,045
but you need to do one or the

4498
02:53:09,112 --> 02:53:12,014
other. Or in effect- signatory

4499
02:53:12,081 --> 02:53:13,616
what by would we say that with

4500
02:53:13,683 --> 02:53:18,287
language that that. Simply says

4501
02:53:18,354 --> 02:53:19,255
you you've got to have. What

4502
02:53:19,322 --> 02:53:20,456
would have other been your non

4503
02:53:20,523 --> 02:53:22,358
union force in the list before

4504
02:53:22,425 --> 02:53:23,826
that sb thirty five project

4505
02:53:23,893 --> 02:53:25,661
overly thomas b. Thirty five

4506
02:53:25,728 --> 02:53:27,263
projects in this bill before

4507
02:53:27,330 --> 02:53:29,398
that. Project commences. I

4508
02:53:29,465 --> 02:53:31,834
certainly as a builder myself

4509
02:53:31,901 --> 02:53:34,837
consisted. That a contractors

4510
02:53:34,904 --> 02:53:36,339
who do not a new workers

4511
02:53:36,405 --> 02:53:37,540
signatory if they want to come

4512
02:53:37,607 --> 02:53:41,277
in my gate and I'm just asking

4513
02:53:41,344 --> 02:53:42,545
why not have that language. The

4514
02:53:42,612 --> 02:53:43,946
language which again you know

4515
02:53:44,013 --> 02:53:45,748
has been part of california law

4516
02:53:45,815 --> 02:53:47,049
for public works for decades his

4517
02:53:47,116 --> 02:53:48,484
excellency works is I under I

4518
02:53:48,551 --> 02:53:50,553
and I under I understand if I

4519
02:53:50,620 --> 02:53:52,421
just ask you to speak to this

4520
02:53:52,488 --> 02:53:54,323
bill. This for this bill what it

4521
02:53:54,390 --> 02:53:56,492
what this offers and I would be

4522
02:53:56,559 --> 02:53:58,227
happy to share with any member

4523
02:53:58,294 --> 02:53:59,462
of the committee a map of where

4524
02:53:59,529 --> 02:54:00,396
registered apprentices live

4525
02:54:00,463 --> 02:54:02,598
currently. There are parts of

4526
02:54:02,665 --> 02:54:04,300
california where frankly not

4527
02:54:04,367 --> 02:54:06,602
every single trade has an

4528
02:54:06,669 --> 02:54:08,371
adequate number of registered

4529
02:54:08,437 --> 02:54:10,640
apprentices today tomorrow and

4530
02:54:10,706 --> 02:54:13,376
for quite frankly walt the

4531
02:54:13,442 --> 02:54:15,011
carpenters. Apprenticeships are

4532
02:54:15,077 --> 02:54:17,013
open to anyone who's seventeen

4533
02:54:17,079 --> 02:54:19,649
or over and with the g. D. Or an

4534
02:54:19,715 --> 02:54:21,150
equivalent. That's not the case

4535
02:54:21,217 --> 02:54:23,586
necessarily for all of the other

4536
02:54:23,653 --> 02:54:25,721
pressure programs. We believe

4537
02:54:25,788 --> 02:54:28,257
that we are in a housing crisis.

4538
02:54:28,324 --> 02:54:30,092
and it is critical to ensure

4539
02:54:30,159 --> 02:54:32,562
that we get as much as possible

4540
02:54:32,628 --> 02:54:35,264
organized within the streamlined

4541
02:54:35,331 --> 02:54:38,935
housing world. And that's- down

4542
02:54:39,001 --> 02:54:40,603
to corner for is it takes two to

4543
02:54:40,670 --> 02:54:42,438
tango it requires unions and

4544
02:54:42,505 --> 02:54:43,840
pressure programs that are in

4545
02:54:43,906 --> 02:54:46,742
growth mode- to participate that

4546
02:54:46,809 --> 02:54:48,611
are- perhaps at times even

4547
02:54:48,678 --> 02:54:51,414
willing. To send an apprentice

4548
02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:53,149
to a non union job that's that

4549
02:54:53,216 --> 02:54:56,652
that's an opportunity to spread

4550
02:54:56,719 --> 02:54:58,387
the union gospel quite frankly.

4551
02:54:58,454 --> 02:55:01,457
a member go there but- your- you

4552
02:55:01,524 --> 02:55:03,059
know your your responses to my

4553
02:55:03,125 --> 02:55:05,595
questions that I don't want to

4554
02:55:05,661 --> 02:55:07,663
I'm not here to. You know to go

4555
02:55:07,730 --> 02:55:10,166
any further with this- but I

4556
02:55:10,233 --> 02:55:11,901
think you told from my comments.

4557
02:55:11,968 --> 02:55:14,604
I think if we're going to get to

4558
02:55:14,670 --> 02:55:16,405
a place of resolving. The

4559
02:55:16,472 --> 02:55:18,808
current. Dispute if you will

4560
02:55:18,875 --> 02:55:21,043
over. Workforce standards one

4561
02:55:21,110 --> 02:55:22,345
thing that's going to have to be

4562
02:55:22,411 --> 02:55:26,849
resolved this. Is how. We as a

4563
02:55:26,916 --> 02:55:30,720
legislature effectuate a true.

4564
02:55:30,786 --> 02:55:33,656
bargain here. Expedited

4565
02:55:33,723 --> 02:55:37,360
expedited. Rules in sequel

4566
02:55:37,426 --> 02:55:40,763
waivers in exchange for-

4567
02:55:40,830 --> 02:55:42,431
workforce that's that's and

4568
02:55:42,498 --> 02:55:43,833
rolled in the kind of screen

4569
02:55:43,900 --> 02:55:45,434
that creates a california for

4570
02:55:45,501 --> 02:55:47,003
all that's my position I

4571
02:55:47,069 --> 02:55:48,404
appreciate your comments. L. Is

4572
02:55:48,471 --> 02:55:49,839
also my position that I

4573
02:55:49,906 --> 02:55:52,408
appreciate the bold work by all

4574
02:55:52,475 --> 02:55:53,976
of you bill sponsors in the

4575
02:55:54,043 --> 02:55:55,711
author I said that earlier just

4576
02:55:55,778 --> 02:55:56,812
call just incorporate those

4577
02:55:56,879 --> 02:55:58,214
comments by referencing in

4578
02:55:58,281 --> 02:56:00,416
getting us to a place. Of for

4579
02:56:00,483 --> 02:56:01,450
the first time in history the

4580
02:56:01,517 --> 02:56:03,853
state where we're starting to

4581
02:56:03,920 --> 02:56:06,255
actually streamlined- in and get

4582
02:56:06,322 --> 02:56:07,924
production out of some of this

4583
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:09,458
legislation so thank you very

4584
02:56:09,525 --> 02:56:10,693
much appreciate your your

4585
02:56:10,760 --> 02:56:12,428
comments or just want to go over

4586
02:56:12,495 --> 02:56:15,031
that peace with you and if I

4587
02:56:15,097 --> 02:56:15,665
could. Just of the notebook a

4588
02:56:15,731 --> 02:56:17,800
minute or two. With somebody

4589
02:56:17,867 --> 02:56:18,434
representing the building

4590
02:56:18,501 --> 02:56:21,470
trades- ever a question there

4591
02:56:21,537 --> 02:56:26,375
and. It will be a single

4592
02:56:26,442 --> 02:56:27,443
question. I apologize making a

4593
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:31,814
lasting question. Three- person

4594
02:56:31,881 --> 02:56:33,816
who responded was so good he

4595
02:56:33,883 --> 02:56:35,551
prompted two more questions. And

4596
02:56:35,618 --> 02:56:37,253
think they can thank you right I

4597
02:56:37,320 --> 02:56:39,155
don't know if you want to re

4598
02:56:39,221 --> 02:56:40,189
identify yourself sure my name

4599
02:56:40,256 --> 02:56:41,490
is alex lance burdett market

4600
02:56:41,557 --> 02:56:43,292
with the building trades in the

4601
02:56:43,359 --> 02:56:44,527
research and advocacy director

4602
02:56:44,593 --> 02:56:45,027
for the san francisco.

4603
02:56:45,094 --> 02:56:46,862
electrical construction industry

4604
02:56:46,929 --> 02:56:51,567
so. If it's your position. That

4605
02:56:51,634 --> 02:56:53,002
skilled and trained language as

4606
02:56:53,069 --> 02:56:56,005
a as it currently exists in s.

4607
02:56:56,072 --> 02:56:58,441
b. Sb thirty five. Which is not

4608
02:56:58,507 --> 02:57:01,544
in as before twenty three. If

4609
02:57:01,610 --> 02:57:04,113
you're saying. That old language

4610
02:57:04,180 --> 02:57:05,414
if you will or their current

4611
02:57:05,481 --> 02:57:07,149
language is not the problem

4612
02:57:07,216 --> 02:57:09,552
that's that's holding up-

4613
02:57:09,618 --> 02:57:11,821
production. Then the what is

4614
02:57:11,887 --> 02:57:13,889
your explanation. Well I think

4615
02:57:13,956 --> 02:57:14,857
the problem holding up

4616
02:57:14,924 --> 02:57:16,392
production in california is the

4617
02:57:16,459 --> 02:57:18,327
same per day is the same problem

4618
02:57:18,394 --> 02:57:19,962
that's holding up production.

4619
02:57:20,029 --> 02:57:20,596
throughout the country it's the

4620
02:57:20,663 --> 02:57:21,831
same problem that's holding up

4621
02:57:21,897 --> 02:57:23,866
production of tens of thousands.

4622
02:57:23,933 --> 02:57:25,501
of entitled units that have no

4623
02:57:25,568 --> 02:57:26,969
labor standards and it's the

4624
02:57:27,036 --> 02:57:28,170
same problem that was holding up

4625
02:57:28,237 --> 02:57:29,372
production of. Affordable

4626
02:57:29,438 --> 02:57:31,173
housing they got bill dad's bill

4627
02:57:31,240 --> 02:57:35,244
with prevailing wage standards.

4628
02:57:35,311 --> 02:57:36,445
after the state gave it money.

4629
02:57:36,512 --> 02:57:38,180
there's no money for this. The

4630
02:57:38,247 --> 02:57:39,315
entire housing market if you

4631
02:57:39,382 --> 02:57:42,718
take a look at. That a national

4632
02:57:42,785 --> 02:57:46,088
data it's a it's gone in. You

4633
02:57:46,155 --> 02:57:48,758
know it's kind of falling off

4634
02:57:48,824 --> 02:57:50,926
falling down if you take a look

4635
02:57:50,993 --> 02:57:51,694
at california production we but

4636
02:57:51,761 --> 02:57:53,562
pretty much flatlined. Back to

4637
02:57:53,629 --> 02:57:55,564
pre great recession levels maybe

4638
02:57:55,631 --> 02:57:58,401
a little bit higher since about

4639
02:57:58,467 --> 02:57:59,602
twenty seventeen since and

4640
02:57:59,668 --> 02:58:01,137
despite two hundred seventy

4641
02:58:01,203 --> 02:58:04,273
five. Streamlining building code

4642
02:58:04,340 --> 02:58:06,609
changes as- hcd has told us we

4643
02:58:06,675 --> 02:58:08,778
haven't really seen we haven't

4644
02:58:08,844 --> 02:58:09,545
really moved the needle the

4645
02:58:09,612 --> 02:58:11,213
fundamental problem is materials

4646
02:58:11,280 --> 02:58:13,182
and prices are just ask about

4647
02:58:13,249 --> 02:58:16,018
escalating it wildly and quite

4648
02:58:16,085 --> 02:58:18,320
volatile- rents. Have gone down

4649
02:58:18,387 --> 02:58:19,789
in the land the highest demand

4650
02:58:19,855 --> 02:58:21,791
areas and frankly I think this

4651
02:58:21,857 --> 02:58:22,491
is something that a lot of

4652
02:58:22,558 --> 02:58:24,760
people to hold their of been

4653
02:58:24,827 --> 02:58:26,262
multiple lawsuits and sb thirty

4654
02:58:26,328 --> 02:58:26,862
five projects if you actually

4655
02:58:26,929 --> 02:58:29,265
take a look at the dashboard. In

4656
02:58:29,331 --> 02:58:30,599
a cd there are sixty there are

4657
02:58:30,666 --> 02:58:33,002
over sixty five hundred units

4658
02:58:33,069 --> 02:58:36,806
in. The I thirty five projects

4659
02:58:36,872 --> 02:58:38,474
that would have had skilled and

4660
02:58:38,541 --> 02:58:39,508
trained standards a number of

4661
02:58:39,575 --> 02:58:41,844
them including one of the ones

4662
02:58:41,911 --> 02:58:44,647
that- the club put forward by

4663
02:58:44,713 --> 02:58:47,383
the by the gentleman who spoke

4664
02:58:47,450 --> 02:58:48,584
in support. Were held up through

4665
02:58:48,651 --> 02:58:49,718
a variety of different

4666
02:58:49,785 --> 02:58:52,221
procedural delays so in short

4667
02:58:52,288 --> 02:58:57,927
it's- your explanation is. As

4668
02:58:57,993 --> 02:59:02,131
economics economic concerns and

4669
02:59:02,198 --> 02:59:04,433
- in litigation to some it yes.

4670
02:59:04,500 --> 02:59:07,103
I think so I don't want to over-

4671
02:59:07,169 --> 02:59:09,738
we don't have time to. Dominate

4672
02:59:09,805 --> 02:59:12,241
the meeting here but- if there's

4673
02:59:12,308 --> 02:59:14,910
anything else say it and I just

4674
02:59:14,977 --> 02:59:18,481
want to say hey- thank you for.

4675
02:59:18,547 --> 02:59:20,516
your answer which is slated to

4676
02:59:20,583 --> 02:59:22,451
the prayer witness and also a c.

4677
02:59:22,518 --> 02:59:23,319
just like said per witness I

4678
02:59:23,385 --> 02:59:25,321
think this needs to be it is an

4679
02:59:25,387 --> 02:59:27,823
issue that needs to be resolved.

4680
02:59:27,890 --> 02:59:29,225
the these the real answer to

4681
02:59:29,291 --> 02:59:31,694
this question if we're going to

4682
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:33,295
be able to go forward to get

4683
02:59:33,362 --> 02:59:34,830
this bill on the working

4684
02:59:34,897 --> 02:59:38,234
standards side of it. In shape

4685
02:59:38,300 --> 02:59:39,869
for general consensus among the

4686
02:59:39,935 --> 02:59:41,103
legislature I appreciated center

4687
02:59:41,170 --> 02:59:42,771
I think you and I think

4688
02:59:42,838 --> 02:59:44,707
everyone's who's- rightfully

4689
02:59:44,773 --> 02:59:46,275
worried about the housing crisis

4690
02:59:46,342 --> 02:59:47,276
is looking for all sorts of

4691
02:59:47,343 --> 02:59:49,645
things. To try to make things go

4692
02:59:49,712 --> 02:59:51,547
but I think as we've been saying

4693
02:59:51,614 --> 02:59:53,249
that continuing sort of private

4694
02:59:53,315 --> 02:59:54,650
sector streamlining in light of

4695
02:59:54,717 --> 02:59:55,551
this broad in the broad

4696
02:59:55,618 --> 02:59:57,353
conditions that we have in the

4697
02:59:57,419 --> 02:59:59,522
market right now is pushing on a

4698
02:59:59,588 --> 03:00:01,257
string. And to do so by

4699
03:00:01,323 --> 03:00:02,091
eliminating weakening labor

4700
03:00:02,158 --> 03:00:05,895
standards not not going from

4701
03:00:05,961 --> 03:00:06,428
zero to a prevailing wage

4702
03:00:06,495 --> 03:00:07,730
standard but going from the gold

4703
03:00:07,796 --> 03:00:09,098
standard that actually trains

4704
03:00:09,165 --> 03:00:10,966
that are highers apprentices.

4705
03:00:11,033 --> 03:00:12,701
creates a pathway for these

4706
03:00:12,768 --> 03:00:15,871
workers to lower it. Is a loss

4707
03:00:15,938 --> 03:00:19,408
for california thank you. Thank

4708
03:00:19,475 --> 03:00:22,578
you ma'am sure. Thank you do we

4709
03:00:22,645 --> 03:00:24,613
have. Any other members who like

4710
03:00:24,680 --> 03:00:29,151
to speak. Okay so just a couple

4711
03:00:29,218 --> 03:00:35,224
of comments on my on my end.

4712
03:00:35,291 --> 03:00:36,292
it's my understanding that this

4713
03:00:36,358 --> 03:00:40,062
bill. Does not exclude skilled.

4714
03:00:40,129 --> 03:00:42,198
and trained labor force right

4715
03:00:42,264 --> 03:00:44,533
workforce. I mean it it it

4716
03:00:44,600 --> 03:00:45,467
doesn't exclude and they could

4717
03:00:45,534 --> 03:00:47,236
still bid for these jobs if

4718
03:00:47,303 --> 03:00:50,072
they're available after jobs-

4719
03:00:50,139 --> 03:00:51,707
it's still it's still there for

4720
03:00:51,774 --> 03:00:55,077
them as an opportunity. To be

4721
03:00:55,144 --> 03:00:56,512
able to bid on the strongest.

4722
03:00:56,579 --> 03:00:58,814
three will to yes this is this

4723
03:00:58,881 --> 03:01:00,549
debate in some ways about which

4724
03:01:00,616 --> 03:01:02,952
contractors are allowed to bid.

4725
03:01:03,018 --> 03:01:05,020
on jobs skilled workforce you

4726
03:01:05,087 --> 03:01:07,122
have to have a certain

4727
03:01:07,189 --> 03:01:09,358
percentage of your workers- come

4728
03:01:09,425 --> 03:01:11,493
out of. Particular meet certain

4729
03:01:11,560 --> 03:01:13,062
qualifications service terms of

4730
03:01:13,128 --> 03:01:15,631
apprenticeship program- at and

4731
03:01:15,698 --> 03:01:18,067
so forth and they qualifies

4732
03:01:18,133 --> 03:01:18,734
under the skilled workforce

4733
03:01:18,801 --> 03:01:21,036
standard- and the contractors

4734
03:01:21,103 --> 03:01:22,905
have to employee tax percentage

4735
03:01:22,972 --> 03:01:24,640
depending on the craft. To

4736
03:01:24,707 --> 03:01:26,675
qualify to bid on other

4737
03:01:26,742 --> 03:01:28,978
contractors are not those

4738
03:01:29,044 --> 03:01:33,649
contractors who will qualify. In

4739
03:01:33,716 --> 03:01:34,583
the school workforce can still

4740
03:01:34,650 --> 03:01:36,418
bid. The be more contract who

4741
03:01:36,485 --> 03:01:38,921
were. To bid this work spanned

4742
03:01:38,988 --> 03:01:40,556
the pool contractors who can bid

4743
03:01:40,623 --> 03:01:42,291
and we know that in. Parts of

4744
03:01:42,358 --> 03:01:44,059
the state there might. Very few

4745
03:01:44,126 --> 03:01:46,795
contractors who can meet the

4746
03:01:46,862 --> 03:01:48,797
skilled workforce standards. So

4747
03:01:48,864 --> 03:01:50,499
it doesn't exclude them they're

4748
03:01:50,566 --> 03:01:53,402
still included in the ability to

4749
03:01:53,469 --> 03:01:58,040
bid for these jobs. Also in

4750
03:01:58,107 --> 03:01:58,741
regards to the apprenticeship

4751
03:01:58,807 --> 03:02:01,510
programs. When you limited to

4752
03:02:01,577 --> 03:02:04,013
justice to this skilled

4753
03:02:04,079 --> 03:02:05,047
workforce training still

4754
03:02:05,114 --> 03:02:07,016
workforce. You're limiting the

4755
03:02:07,082 --> 03:02:09,351
amount the- the number of

4756
03:02:09,418 --> 03:02:10,719
apprenticeship programs that

4757
03:02:10,786 --> 03:02:13,222
actually qualify to be able to

4758
03:02:13,289 --> 03:02:15,758
bid on these jobs to this would

4759
03:02:15,824 --> 03:02:16,692
open it up to an array of

4760
03:02:16,759 --> 03:02:18,727
apprenticeship. Programs that

4761
03:02:18,794 --> 03:02:21,897
aren't- that are actually

4762
03:02:21,964 --> 03:02:25,267
approved by the state. Is that

4763
03:02:25,334 --> 03:02:30,839
correct. Yes yes okay. So it it

4764
03:02:30,906 --> 03:02:32,574
opens up more apprenticeship

4765
03:02:32,641 --> 03:02:35,244
programs- in the state to be

4766
03:02:35,311 --> 03:02:38,113
able to. To work for this in it

4767
03:02:38,180 --> 03:02:41,850
also- opens the ability to have

4768
03:02:41,917 --> 03:02:44,286
more opportunity for work for

4769
03:02:44,353 --> 03:02:46,922
approximately four hundred

4770
03:02:46,989 --> 03:02:48,757
thousand workers that don't

4771
03:02:48,824 --> 03:02:51,393
necessarily- belong to a

4772
03:02:51,460 --> 03:02:53,362
specific apprenticeship program

4773
03:02:53,429 --> 03:02:55,898
but belong to any apprenticeship

4774
03:02:55,964 --> 03:02:57,866
program. In the state the mayor

4775
03:02:57,933 --> 03:03:01,837
may not. And also when we talk

4776
03:03:01,904 --> 03:03:03,372
about workforce standards I was

4777
03:03:03,439 --> 03:03:05,341
just asking for clarification on

4778
03:03:05,407 --> 03:03:08,744
that whether or not. Fusing it

4779
03:03:08,811 --> 03:03:10,579
meant labor code or construction

4780
03:03:10,646 --> 03:03:14,550
code- the versus- and I believe

4781
03:03:14,616 --> 03:03:17,086
it's labor code labor code is

4782
03:03:17,152 --> 03:03:20,055
labor code in california right.

4783
03:03:20,122 --> 03:03:22,991
any construction house to meet

4784
03:03:23,058 --> 03:03:27,162
those standards- in california

4785
03:03:27,229 --> 03:03:28,831
is that is that not correct

4786
03:03:28,897 --> 03:03:31,333
labor code is they were cut it

4787
03:03:31,400 --> 03:03:33,168
doesn't very. Her apprenticeship

4788
03:03:33,235 --> 03:03:34,603
program or no apprenticeship

4789
03:03:34,670 --> 03:03:36,672
program or any apprenticeship

4790
03:03:36,739 --> 03:03:40,175
program. Is that correct- I see

4791
03:03:40,242 --> 03:03:41,577
people nodding their head may

4792
03:03:41,643 --> 03:03:43,212
day kerr with the carpenters the

4793
03:03:43,278 --> 03:03:44,513
labor code is essentially

4794
03:03:44,580 --> 03:03:46,515
designed for public works there

4795
03:03:46,582 --> 03:03:48,917
are there are workers there are

4796
03:03:48,984 --> 03:03:52,054
other codes for the workforce in

4797
03:03:52,121 --> 03:03:53,355
general. But on public works you

4798
03:03:53,422 --> 03:03:55,057
have to meet the labor codes

4799
03:03:55,124 --> 03:03:57,860
that have to do with prevailing

4800
03:03:57,926 --> 03:03:59,328
wages and prices. And if you are

4801
03:03:59,395 --> 03:04:00,796
non union contractor you still

4802
03:04:00,863 --> 03:04:02,564
have to meet those codes if you

4803
03:04:02,631 --> 03:04:04,700
don't have a premises because of

4804
03:04:04,767 --> 03:04:05,501
their labor management programs

4805
03:04:05,567 --> 03:04:07,836
generally. Use than request

4806
03:04:07,903 --> 03:04:10,739
practices from the programs that

4807
03:04:10,806 --> 03:04:13,475
have them. If they fulfill that

4808
03:04:13,542 --> 03:04:16,512
request then you met your up the

4809
03:04:16,578 --> 03:04:18,280
standard for apprentices if they

4810
03:04:18,347 --> 03:04:20,516
don't. Meet their request of

4811
03:04:20,582 --> 03:04:21,717
third don't send to they don't

4812
03:04:21,784 --> 03:04:23,919
have them or in some unions

4813
03:04:23,986 --> 03:04:25,521
don't send them to non union

4814
03:04:25,587 --> 03:04:26,555
contractors. Then you've gone

4815
03:04:26,622 --> 03:04:27,756
through the process of asking

4816
03:04:27,823 --> 03:04:29,792
and not receive them so you have

4817
03:04:29,858 --> 03:04:31,527
for fill that requirement you

4818
03:04:31,593 --> 03:04:32,795
cannot pay anybody

4819
03:04:32,861 --> 03:04:35,097
apprenticeship wages after that

4820
03:04:35,164 --> 03:04:37,266
because that's also did- the

4821
03:04:37,332 --> 03:04:39,168
governed by the labor code

4822
03:04:39,234 --> 03:04:41,603
sections. But the wages are

4823
03:04:41,670 --> 03:04:43,572
outside of labor code sections.

4824
03:04:43,639 --> 03:04:45,307
I think the minimum wage that

4825
03:04:45,374 --> 03:04:46,708
applies to all workers on

4826
03:04:46,775 --> 03:04:48,610
construction or anywhere

4827
03:04:48,677 --> 03:04:50,546
actually. You do not have to

4828
03:04:50,612 --> 03:04:52,214
meet any other labor any other

4829
03:04:52,281 --> 03:04:54,783
way each and in that for

4830
03:04:54,850 --> 03:04:56,952
construction. And that this bill

4831
03:04:57,019 --> 03:04:59,054
will specify prevailing wage

4832
03:04:59,121 --> 03:05:00,889
that's correct on the floor. And

4833
03:05:00,956 --> 03:05:02,891
it's not like it's not a public

4834
03:05:02,958 --> 03:05:04,226
works as senator criticizing

4835
03:05:04,293 --> 03:05:06,628
this. Asking but it does require

4836
03:05:06,695 --> 03:05:08,497
you meet a prevailing wage which

4837
03:05:08,564 --> 03:05:10,432
you have to pay. And it does

4838
03:05:10,499 --> 03:05:11,800
require if you don't have a

4839
03:05:11,867 --> 03:05:13,569
prince's over fifty units you

4840
03:05:13,635 --> 03:05:15,604
then have to request apprentices

4841
03:05:15,671 --> 03:05:17,306
through the normal process that

4842
03:05:17,372 --> 03:05:18,874
you would request princes to

4843
03:05:18,941 --> 03:05:20,175
print ship. Part of friendship

4844
03:05:20,242 --> 03:05:22,244
standards if you get them you

4845
03:05:22,311 --> 03:05:24,446
have to use them and some crafts

4846
03:05:24,513 --> 03:05:26,915
will send them some won't. As

4847
03:05:26,982 --> 03:05:28,584
you heard and if you don't get

4848
03:05:28,650 --> 03:05:29,284
them but you've applied then

4849
03:05:29,351 --> 03:05:35,324
you've met. Your requirement but

4850
03:05:35,390 --> 03:05:36,358
you cannot pay hey those.

4851
03:05:36,425 --> 03:05:37,993
prevailing mean those approach

4852
03:05:38,060 --> 03:05:39,995
wages which are lower. So I

4853
03:05:40,062 --> 03:05:41,263
don't have to helps and then-

4854
03:05:41,330 --> 03:05:42,331
just for the concert code to

4855
03:05:42,397 --> 03:05:44,500
everyone whether your in in an

4856
03:05:44,566 --> 03:05:47,202
apprenticeship program or not.

4857
03:05:47,269 --> 03:05:49,471
the special. Shook his art union

4858
03:05:49,538 --> 03:05:51,406
or not construction code is the

4859
03:05:51,473 --> 03:05:54,510
same. And inspectors are. On

4860
03:05:54,576 --> 03:05:57,980
site. That reviewed the work yes

4861
03:05:58,046 --> 03:05:59,815
already and the construction is

4862
03:05:59,882 --> 03:06:03,385
quality will be overseeing. That

4863
03:06:03,452 --> 03:06:05,454
in making sure that construction

4864
03:06:05,521 --> 03:06:07,523
code is being mad at those sites

4865
03:06:07,589 --> 03:06:10,959
as correct okay. All right I

4866
03:06:11,026 --> 03:06:12,628
think- and I have one last

4867
03:06:12,694 --> 03:06:14,897
question for the doctor and

4868
03:06:14,963 --> 03:06:16,765
that's with regards to sunset.

4869
03:06:16,832 --> 03:06:20,269
date would you be- flexible open

4870
03:06:20,335 --> 03:06:22,404
to discussions on perhaps

4871
03:06:22,471 --> 03:06:25,941
extending that. That sunset if

4872
03:06:26,008 --> 03:06:28,510
necessary. To the reason why we

4873
03:06:28,577 --> 03:06:30,479
chose to remove the suns- is we

4874
03:06:30,546 --> 03:06:32,514
not five years of experience

4875
03:06:32,581 --> 03:06:34,516
with sb thirty five five so

4876
03:06:34,583 --> 03:06:35,484
we've- sort of seen the

4877
03:06:35,551 --> 03:06:37,819
mechanics of it and I think it

4878
03:06:37,886 --> 03:06:39,154
makes sense. Perfect as I

4879
03:06:39,221 --> 03:06:40,522
mentioned to you this morning I

4880
03:06:40,589 --> 03:06:42,424
would be shocked if the sunset

4881
03:06:42,491 --> 03:06:45,260
issue didn't come up. Over the

4882
03:06:45,327 --> 03:06:48,330
next. Six months- of our

4883
03:06:48,397 --> 03:06:50,933
legislative process were in

4884
03:06:50,999 --> 03:06:53,001
negotiations around the bill- so

4885
03:06:53,068 --> 03:06:55,437
I'm- I'm sure that'll be an

4886
03:06:55,504 --> 03:07:00,275
issue- that will be part of. A

4887
03:07:00,342 --> 03:07:02,711
dialogue. And I am. I do one

4888
03:07:02,778 --> 03:07:05,380
more I'm one I'm supposed to ask

4889
03:07:05,447 --> 03:07:09,017
. And page thirty eight of a-

4890
03:07:09,084 --> 03:07:10,986
the bill that the bill yes ma'am

4891
03:07:11,053 --> 03:07:16,858
is a supplement about her. Okay

4892
03:07:16,925 --> 03:07:17,626
beginning online twenty of the

4893
03:07:17,693 --> 03:07:24,967
bill the lang read. Thirty six.

4894
03:07:25,033 --> 03:07:26,068
nine twenty one. Hello yeah k.

4895
03:07:26,134 --> 03:07:29,805
the language. Not any law for

4896
03:07:29,871 --> 03:07:32,207
purposes of this section and for

4897
03:07:32,274 --> 03:07:34,176
the development of on property

4898
03:07:34,242 --> 03:07:36,511
owned by or at least to the

4899
03:07:36,578 --> 03:07:38,547
state. The department of general

4900
03:07:38,614 --> 03:07:40,415
services may act in the place of

4901
03:07:40,482 --> 03:07:42,918
a locality or local government

4902
03:07:42,985 --> 03:07:44,186
at the discretion of the

4903
03:07:44,252 --> 03:07:48,023
department. Question is it your

4904
03:07:48,090 --> 03:07:49,491
intent with this provision to

4905
03:07:49,558 --> 03:07:52,794
grant the state with authority

4906
03:07:52,861 --> 03:07:55,364
to enter into a long term lease

4907
03:07:55,430 --> 03:07:58,233
with the developer. And then act

4908
03:07:58,300 --> 03:08:00,335
in place of the locality or

4909
03:08:00,402 --> 03:08:03,205
local government for purposes of

4910
03:08:03,271 --> 03:08:06,274
developments. The sisters find

4911
03:08:06,341 --> 03:08:07,976
them the reason why that's in

4912
03:08:08,043 --> 03:08:10,412
there we- because we've had

4913
03:08:10,479 --> 03:08:11,980
enough five years of experience

4914
03:08:12,047 --> 03:08:14,182
we've seen some. Of any

4915
03:08:14,249 --> 03:08:15,350
complicated bill you're going to

4916
03:08:15,417 --> 03:08:17,753
see technical issues out to be

4917
03:08:17,819 --> 03:08:19,321
fixed as it's implemented hi and

4918
03:08:19,388 --> 03:08:21,023
there was one particular project

4919
03:08:21,089 --> 03:08:23,291
if he was in the lake tahoe area

4920
03:08:23,358 --> 03:08:24,960
work it was in a city that

4921
03:08:25,027 --> 03:08:26,428
qualified for sb thirty five

4922
03:08:26,495 --> 03:08:28,230
project. Fully qualified except

4923
03:08:28,296 --> 03:08:30,098
because there was a state sign

4924
03:08:30,165 --> 03:08:32,000
off that had to happen because

4925
03:08:32,067 --> 03:08:34,102
it was in the lake tahoe area.

4926
03:08:34,169 --> 03:08:36,571
it became ineligible rescue

4927
03:08:36,638 --> 03:08:38,273
thirty five because sb thirty

4928
03:08:38,340 --> 03:08:40,308
five currently has no mechanism

4929
03:08:40,375 --> 03:08:42,544
and it is a project otherwise

4930
03:08:42,611 --> 03:08:45,147
fully qualifies. But the state

4931
03:08:45,213 --> 03:08:46,581
has to make some sort of

4932
03:08:46,648 --> 03:08:48,483
decision no matter how minor

4933
03:08:48,550 --> 03:08:50,352
that decision it simply gets

4934
03:08:50,419 --> 03:08:51,887
kicked out of sb thirty five.

4935
03:08:51,953 --> 03:08:52,888
and the purpose of this

4936
03:08:52,954 --> 03:08:54,623
provision is to say that if

4937
03:08:54,690 --> 03:08:56,358
there is not senate state owned

4938
03:08:56,425 --> 03:08:58,660
property I know that yeah I

4939
03:08:58,727 --> 03:08:59,461
think you have a bill to

4940
03:08:59,528 --> 03:09:03,598
streamline on state. Owned

4941
03:09:03,665 --> 03:09:05,767
property. The state having to

4942
03:09:05,834 --> 03:09:07,235
make it this. Does not x. The

4943
03:09:07,302 --> 03:09:10,539
project rescue three five and it

4944
03:09:10,605 --> 03:09:12,240
would be the of euro service.

4945
03:09:12,307 --> 03:09:14,109
that would be the that would. Be

4946
03:09:14,176 --> 03:09:15,310
able to consent so I hope that

4947
03:09:15,377 --> 03:09:16,378
makes sense- but that was our

4948
03:09:16,445 --> 03:09:18,847
purpose is not in any way to

4949
03:09:18,914 --> 03:09:19,715
aggrandize the state it's

4950
03:09:19,781 --> 03:09:20,849
expensive cities this is for

4951
03:09:20,916 --> 03:09:23,051
situations where- where the

4952
03:09:23,118 --> 03:09:25,320
state has some sort of sign up

4953
03:09:25,387 --> 03:09:26,755
either because of state owned

4954
03:09:26,822 --> 03:09:27,656
land to the something the state

4955
03:09:27,723 --> 03:09:30,292
has to do- that. Would currently

4956
03:09:30,358 --> 03:09:31,927
kick it out of sb thirty five

4957
03:09:31,993 --> 03:09:37,065
entirely. Thank you. Senator

4958
03:09:37,132 --> 03:09:39,201
later- any other are common.

4959
03:09:39,267 --> 03:09:43,338
okay we have a motion with it by

4960
03:09:43,405 --> 03:09:45,774
saturday bob. Senator will hop.

4961
03:09:45,841 --> 03:09:50,746
that makes motion to compel. I'm

4962
03:09:50,812 --> 03:09:54,850
sorry. Which is to close. You

4963
03:09:54,916 --> 03:09:56,651
for enough for me I risk ask and

4964
03:09:56,718 --> 03:10:00,622
I don't. Thank you. L. Seven

4965
03:10:00,689 --> 03:10:03,391
motion and secretary. The senate

4966
03:10:03,458 --> 03:10:04,626
for senate bill for three by sen

4967
03:10:04,693 --> 03:10:06,461
wiener the motion to pass and

4968
03:10:06,528 --> 03:10:08,363
river the can. Under and finance

4969
03:10:08,430 --> 03:10:09,798
senator wiener. Wiener hi the

4970
03:10:09,865 --> 03:10:12,167
troubled by what chau book hi

4971
03:10:12,234 --> 03:10:18,206
click here five clicks here hi.

4972
03:10:18,273 --> 03:10:20,142
or does he- courtesy hi mcguire

4973
03:10:20,208 --> 03:10:23,145
. Padilla they are to. See no

4974
03:10:23,211 --> 03:10:28,250
skinner hi skinner hi I'm- bob I

4975
03:10:28,316 --> 03:10:34,089
bob five. One of the role from

4976
03:10:34,156 --> 03:10:51,940
the case. We have. House. Thank

4977
03:10:52,007 --> 03:11:06,788
you.

4978
03:11:06,855 --> 03:11:10,158
sure okay it's good to be

4979
03:11:10,225 --> 03:11:13,495
sitting again. We will now and I

4980
03:11:13,562 --> 03:11:15,764
want to the can for its as we

4981
03:11:15,831 --> 03:11:18,133
want to two. Linkedin's we now

4982
03:11:18,200 --> 03:11:19,701
move to item three s. Three for

4983
03:11:19,768 --> 03:11:23,338
one vice. Tucker who is says you

4984
03:11:23,405 --> 03:11:27,042
make. You may present your bill

4985
03:11:27,108 --> 03:11:29,678
thank you for your patience. I

4986
03:11:29,744 --> 03:11:30,512
think you could after that chair

4987
03:11:30,579 --> 03:11:34,216
and thank you up to prison as

4988
03:11:34,282 --> 03:11:35,884
three for one. Housing element

4989
03:11:35,951 --> 03:11:36,551
comply for and housing

4990
03:11:36,618 --> 03:11:37,819
incentives are important to for

4991
03:11:37,886 --> 03:11:39,521
k. To the housing- the housing

4992
03:11:39,588 --> 03:11:40,755
it needs. Over these tools

4993
03:11:40,822 --> 03:11:42,457
should be at a pro actors assisi

4994
03:11:42,524 --> 03:11:44,993
and counties of course are there

4995
03:11:45,060 --> 03:11:45,894
sometimes important programs are

4996
03:11:45,961 --> 03:11:47,562
private before the housing

4997
03:11:47,629 --> 03:11:49,297
developers who have no control

4998
03:11:49,364 --> 03:11:51,600
over local government actions

4999
03:11:51,666 --> 03:11:53,401
are the applicants. The results

5000
03:11:53,468 --> 03:11:55,370
are is that developers to do the

5001
03:11:55,437 --> 03:11:57,205
right thing and bring for a

5002
03:11:57,272 --> 03:11:59,608
house in a less than friendly

5003
03:11:59,674 --> 03:12:00,242
jurisdictions are penalized by

5004
03:12:00,308 --> 03:12:02,377
the state. In some cases like

5005
03:12:02,444 --> 03:12:03,612
affordable housing sustainable

5006
03:12:03,678 --> 03:12:06,414
communities program in eligible

5007
03:12:06,481 --> 03:12:08,416
to apply if the cedar county

5008
03:12:08,483 --> 03:12:10,018
does not have an approved

5009
03:12:10,085 --> 03:12:12,320
housing element. In other cases

5010
03:12:12,387 --> 03:12:17,959
a qualifying infill program- the

5011
03:12:18,026 --> 03:12:18,760
- but portion of infill

5012
03:12:18,827 --> 03:12:20,428
infrastructure program they lose

5013
03:12:20,495 --> 03:12:21,730
pro housing points and therefore

5014
03:12:21,796 --> 03:12:24,699
not competitive. With sb three

5015
03:12:24,766 --> 03:12:26,201
forty one strikes the right

5016
03:12:26,268 --> 03:12:26,835
balance of incentivizing local

5017
03:12:26,902 --> 03:12:29,137
governments to adopt pro housing

5018
03:12:29,204 --> 03:12:31,039
policies while not penalizing

5019
03:12:31,106 --> 03:12:32,607
developers who bring a former

5020
03:12:32,674 --> 03:12:34,743
housing to low income families

5021
03:12:34,809 --> 03:12:36,912
who need for but housing in

5022
03:12:36,978 --> 03:12:38,780
these less housing friendly

5023
03:12:38,847 --> 03:12:40,916
jurisdiction. The bill plus pro

5024
03:12:40,982 --> 03:12:42,050
housing incentives in housing

5025
03:12:42,117 --> 03:12:43,885
element compliance rituals only

5026
03:12:43,952 --> 03:12:45,587
to state programs which cities

5027
03:12:45,654 --> 03:12:46,988
and counties as opposed to

5028
03:12:47,055 --> 03:12:47,789
private a former housing

5029
03:12:47,856 --> 03:12:49,424
developers. Part the primary

5030
03:12:49,491 --> 03:12:51,393
applicants with that I've to

5031
03:12:51,459 --> 03:12:55,096
witnesses here today. Marks

5032
03:12:55,163 --> 03:12:55,864
stivers and courtney how. Good

5033
03:12:55,931 --> 03:12:57,299
afternoon march diverse with

5034
03:12:57,365 --> 03:12:59,234
california housing partnership-

5035
03:12:59,301 --> 03:13:00,769
as a center said we are very

5036
03:13:00,835 --> 03:13:02,370
much in favor of pro housing

5037
03:13:02,437 --> 03:13:03,471
incentives and housing I'm a

5038
03:13:03,538 --> 03:13:05,607
compliance. But if we want to

5039
03:13:05,674 --> 03:13:06,608
change local government behavior

5040
03:13:06,675 --> 03:13:08,043
we have to incentivize with them

5041
03:13:08,109 --> 03:13:09,945
with things that they want

5042
03:13:10,011 --> 03:13:11,046
transportation funds park funds

5043
03:13:11,112 --> 03:13:12,948
general fund. The nine them

5044
03:13:13,014 --> 03:13:14,015
housing funds when they're

5045
03:13:14,082 --> 03:13:15,684
resistant to housing justin able

5046
03:13:15,750 --> 03:13:17,719
enables that resistance and so

5047
03:13:17,786 --> 03:13:19,154
this bill actually strikes the

5048
03:13:19,220 --> 03:13:20,188
right balance and make sure

5049
03:13:20,255 --> 03:13:22,524
that- developers who are trying

5050
03:13:22,590 --> 03:13:23,925
to build housing in communities

5051
03:13:23,992 --> 03:13:25,727
that may be less than friendly.

5052
03:13:25,794 --> 03:13:27,996
are able to bring that housing

5053
03:13:28,063 --> 03:13:29,197
are able to get state funding to

5054
03:13:29,264 --> 03:13:31,333
do so- think about an example

5055
03:13:31,399 --> 03:13:33,335
where a community is resistant

5056
03:13:33,401 --> 03:13:34,703
of housing they're able to use

5057
03:13:34,769 --> 03:13:36,671
something like sb thirty five to

5058
03:13:36,738 --> 03:13:38,273
get approval we wouldn't want to

5059
03:13:38,340 --> 03:13:39,607
penalize that developer having

5060
03:13:39,674 --> 03:13:41,509
done exactly we wanted them to

5061
03:13:41,576 --> 03:13:42,944
do which was to bring affordable

5062
03:13:43,011 --> 03:13:44,179
housing. To community of to all

5063
03:13:44,245 --> 03:13:47,248
communities in the state. So we

5064
03:13:47,315 --> 03:13:53,455
are dr- today thank you. Great

5065
03:13:53,521 --> 03:13:54,723
good afternoon jerry narron

5066
03:13:54,789 --> 03:13:56,091
members of the committee my name

5067
03:13:56,157 --> 03:13:57,492
is courtney powell and I'm with

5068
03:13:57,559 --> 03:13:58,660
resources for community

5069
03:13:58,727 --> 03:14:00,729
development or rcd as were known

5070
03:14:00,795 --> 03:14:02,430
in the field. I'm here in

5071
03:14:02,497 --> 03:14:04,432
support of sb three forty one a

5072
03:14:04,499 --> 03:14:06,134
bill that would more

5073
03:14:06,201 --> 03:14:06,768
appropriately align incentives

5074
03:14:06,835 --> 03:14:08,770
for housing element compliance

5075
03:14:08,837 --> 03:14:10,739
and housing policies. Our city

5076
03:14:10,805 --> 03:14:12,107
is a nonprofit affordable

5077
03:14:12,173 --> 03:14:14,542
housing developer providing over

5078
03:14:14,609 --> 03:14:15,410
twenty five hundred rental homes

5079
03:14:15,477 --> 03:14:16,711
throughout the bay area. With an

5080
03:14:16,778 --> 03:14:19,247
additional one thousand units in

5081
03:14:19,314 --> 03:14:20,248
pre development and

5082
03:14:20,315 --> 03:14:20,882
construction. Unfortunately our

5083
03:14:20,949 --> 03:14:22,984
ability to access funding for

5084
03:14:23,051 --> 03:14:23,952
these people and projects is

5085
03:14:24,019 --> 03:14:25,286
currently jeopardized by

5086
03:14:25,353 --> 03:14:26,421
regulations that penalize

5087
03:14:26,488 --> 03:14:28,289
affordable housing developers.

5088
03:14:28,356 --> 03:14:29,824
for the shortcomings of local

5089
03:14:29,891 --> 03:14:31,693
jurisdictions. Nonprofit

5090
03:14:31,760 --> 03:14:33,528
developers like our cd cannot

5091
03:14:33,595 --> 03:14:34,562
apply for funding receiving

5092
03:14:34,629 --> 03:14:37,032
award or have funds disbursed by

5093
03:14:37,098 --> 03:14:38,133
the state unless the local

5094
03:14:38,199 --> 03:14:39,834
government. Where are four wheel

5095
03:14:39,901 --> 03:14:41,302
housing developments are located

5096
03:14:41,369 --> 03:14:42,804
has met certain housing element

5097
03:14:42,871 --> 03:14:44,639
compliance milestones. This

5098
03:14:44,706 --> 03:14:46,207
spring three of our developments

5099
03:14:46,274 --> 03:14:47,375
will compete for state funding

5100
03:14:47,442 --> 03:14:48,643
under the affordable housing and

5101
03:14:48,710 --> 03:14:50,078
sustainable communities program

5102
03:14:50,145 --> 03:14:51,346
and all three of those

5103
03:14:51,413 --> 03:14:52,080
developments are in

5104
03:14:52,147 --> 03:14:53,848
jurisdictions without a

5105
03:14:53,915 --> 03:14:56,051
complaint housing element. As a

5106
03:14:56,117 --> 03:14:57,819
result we will take on it the

5107
03:14:57,886 --> 03:14:59,921
significant an undue risk of

5108
03:14:59,988 --> 03:15:01,556
preparing extensive applications

5109
03:15:01,623 --> 03:15:03,058
and potentially even executing

5110
03:15:03,124 --> 03:15:04,759
award agreements. Pending the

5111
03:15:04,826 --> 03:15:05,960
result of a local government

5112
03:15:06,027 --> 03:15:07,996
process that we have absolutely

5113
03:15:08,063 --> 03:15:10,365
no control over. This will have

5114
03:15:10,432 --> 03:15:11,199
replication throughout the

5115
03:15:11,266 --> 03:15:12,300
capital stack of these

5116
03:15:12,367 --> 03:15:13,701
developments as tax credit

5117
03:15:13,768 --> 03:15:17,705
investors and private lenders

5118
03:15:17,772 --> 03:15:18,506
react to the additional

5119
03:15:18,573 --> 03:15:19,040
uncertainty. The threshold

5120
03:15:19,107 --> 03:15:20,308
requirement has the unintended

5121
03:15:20,375 --> 03:15:22,310
and unfortunate consequence of

5122
03:15:22,377 --> 03:15:23,778
adding additional complication

5123
03:15:23,845 --> 03:15:25,613
and cost affordable housing

5124
03:15:25,680 --> 03:15:27,982
development process. This issue

5125
03:15:28,049 --> 03:15:29,651
is not isolated to the three

5126
03:15:29,717 --> 03:15:30,652
developments at this moment in

5127
03:15:30,718 --> 03:15:33,588
time. Over 75% of our city's pre

5128
03:15:33,655 --> 03:15:35,356
development portfolio is located

5129
03:15:35,423 --> 03:15:37,158
in one of the many bay area

5130
03:15:37,225 --> 03:15:38,860
jurisdictions that do not

5131
03:15:38,927 --> 03:15:39,394
currently have a compliant

5132
03:15:39,461 --> 03:15:41,262
housing element. And

5133
03:15:41,329 --> 03:15:42,230
additionally some jurisdictions

5134
03:15:42,297 --> 03:15:43,531
that we work in one have a

5135
03:15:43,598 --> 03:15:45,400
complaint housing element for

5136
03:15:45,467 --> 03:15:48,603
another year or more. Sb three

5137
03:15:48,670 --> 03:15:49,471
forty one would remove the

5138
03:15:49,537 --> 03:15:50,672
threshold requirements the state

5139
03:15:50,738 --> 03:15:51,906
enforcement of housing element

5140
03:15:51,973 --> 03:15:53,975
law does not delay affordable

5141
03:15:54,042 --> 03:15:56,211
housing construction. Realigning

5142
03:15:56,277 --> 03:15:57,312
this incentive will ensure that

5143
03:15:57,378 --> 03:15:59,380
developers like rcd can continue

5144
03:15:59,447 --> 03:16:00,815
to build affordable housing for

5145
03:16:00,882 --> 03:16:03,184
the low income californians who

5146
03:16:03,251 --> 03:16:05,887
desperately need it. Thank you.

5147
03:16:05,954 --> 03:16:07,622
thank you very much we will now

5148
03:16:07,689 --> 03:16:10,225
go to additional support for

5149
03:16:10,291 --> 03:16:12,393
this bill the state your name

5150
03:16:12,460 --> 03:16:15,630
organization and the fact of

5151
03:16:15,697 --> 03:16:17,665
your support. Marino white with

5152
03:16:17,732 --> 03:16:18,299
the california housing

5153
03:16:18,366 --> 03:16:21,503
consortium in support. Amberley

5154
03:16:21,569 --> 03:16:23,204
leslie legislative advocate with

5155
03:16:23,271 --> 03:16:25,440
housing california in support.

5156
03:16:25,507 --> 03:16:29,344
anyone else in support. Okay is

5157
03:16:29,410 --> 03:16:30,578
there any opposition to this

5158
03:16:30,645 --> 03:16:32,914
bill or we have no registered

5159
03:16:32,981 --> 03:16:35,984
opposition anyone in opposition

5160
03:16:36,050 --> 03:16:37,318
. Okay say none will go to the

5161
03:16:37,385 --> 03:16:38,820
phone lines with a moderator

5162
03:16:38,887 --> 03:16:41,856
please- call any support or

5163
03:16:41,923 --> 03:16:44,726
opposition from public comment.

5164
03:16:44,792 --> 03:16:46,060
tell me if you are into border

5165
03:16:46,127 --> 03:16:49,931
opposition sb three forty one is

5166
03:16:49,998 --> 03:16:52,500
one nine zero. Support or

5167
03:16:52,567 --> 03:16:57,105
opposition of s. Eighty three

5168
03:16:57,172 --> 03:17:01,943
forty one. One seven zero. We do

5169
03:17:02,010 --> 03:17:04,512
have a couple fueling up here to

5170
03:17:04,579 --> 03:17:15,490
be just a moment.

5171
03:17:15,557 --> 03:17:18,226
we will go to the line thirty

5172
03:17:18,293 --> 03:17:20,695
two please go ahead. Aye allen

5173
03:17:20,762 --> 03:17:23,798
and schallert and monsanto in

5174
03:17:23,865 --> 03:17:28,403
support thank you. Thank you to

5175
03:17:28,469 --> 03:17:30,772
be just one moment here we have

5176
03:17:30,838 --> 03:17:32,640
two other ones that have queued

5177
03:17:32,707 --> 03:17:46,020
up. We will go now to line.

5178
03:17:46,087 --> 03:17:47,088
three ninety nine. I number

5179
03:17:47,155 --> 03:17:48,189
three ninety nine your line is

5180
03:17:48,256 --> 03:17:49,791
open. Good afternoon turn

5181
03:17:49,857 --> 03:17:51,826
members thanks for having this

5182
03:17:51,893 --> 03:17:52,894
hearing this is dealing dobbins

5183
03:17:52,961 --> 03:17:54,062
that's part of the california

5184
03:17:54,128 --> 03:17:56,164
coalition for rural happening in

5185
03:17:56,231 --> 03:17:58,166
strong support of sb three forty

5186
03:17:58,233 --> 03:18:01,703
one. Thank you. Thank you there

5187
03:18:01,769 --> 03:18:02,971
are no other thank you at this

5188
03:18:03,037 --> 03:18:04,606
time okay thank you very much

5189
03:18:04,672 --> 03:18:05,907
we're back to the committee

5190
03:18:05,974 --> 03:18:07,208
colleagues any questions or

5191
03:18:07,275 --> 03:18:08,643
comments for the author yes

5192
03:18:08,710 --> 03:18:10,545
under voice here this seems like

5193
03:18:10,612 --> 03:18:13,348
a great bill and I'm happy to

5194
03:18:13,414 --> 03:18:14,282
support thank you for thinking

5195
03:18:14,349 --> 03:18:16,484
of it. Great any other questions

5196
03:18:16,551 --> 03:18:18,920
or comments okay we have a

5197
03:18:18,987 --> 03:18:21,456
motion by cineplex marc amending

5198
03:18:21,522 --> 03:18:23,791
an aye vote on this bill- would

5199
03:18:23,858 --> 03:18:25,260
you like to close respectfully

5200
03:18:25,326 --> 03:18:27,562
ask for a vote thank you- will

5201
03:18:27,629 --> 03:18:30,198
call the roll. Senate bill three

5202
03:18:30,265 --> 03:18:31,299
forty one by senator booker the

5203
03:18:31,366 --> 03:18:32,600
motion is to pass and referred

5204
03:18:32,667 --> 03:18:34,002
to committee on appropriations

5205
03:18:34,068 --> 03:18:35,970
senator wiener wiener hi which-

5206
03:18:36,037 --> 03:18:39,274
book. To book hi blix here by

5207
03:18:39,340 --> 03:18:43,911
like zero zero. Courtesy mcguire

5208
03:18:43,978 --> 03:18:46,948
videa. There are two right there

5209
03:18:47,015 --> 03:18:54,455
too hi. Umberg burke I bob. Okay

5210
03:18:54,522 --> 03:18:55,690
the good karma as far two zero

5211
03:18:55,757 --> 03:18:58,159
will put it call for us and-

5212
03:18:58,226 --> 03:18:59,227
thank you senator. Okay we're

5213
03:18:59,294 --> 03:19:01,963
now going to skip four for them-

5214
03:19:02,030 --> 03:19:04,532
moments we'll go back to that-

5215
03:19:04,599 --> 03:19:05,933
later we're gonna go to item

5216
03:19:06,000 --> 03:19:10,305
number. Of five. I see center

5217
03:19:10,371 --> 03:19:25,119
career- okay we will- three.

5218
03:19:25,186 --> 03:19:27,388
okay I am going to present seven

5219
03:19:27,455 --> 03:19:32,260
remains of ours still males- and

5220
03:19:32,327 --> 03:19:34,495
saw him a couple back over to a

5221
03:19:34,562 --> 03:19:37,098
very spiritual book. I'm gonna

5222
03:19:37,165 --> 03:19:39,867
I'm gonna present from my-

5223
03:19:39,934 --> 03:19:42,503
jessica concerning enough today

5224
03:19:42,570 --> 03:19:44,305
. Thank you senator wiener and-

5225
03:19:44,372 --> 03:19:49,744
please. When you're ready please

5226
03:19:49,811 --> 03:19:52,714
present- file item number four

5227
03:19:52,780 --> 03:19:54,882
sp four fifty six on behalf of

5228
03:19:54,949 --> 03:19:56,851
senator mitchell park please

5229
03:19:56,918 --> 03:19:58,086
okay thank you madam vice chair

5230
03:19:58,152 --> 03:20:00,254
I want so I'm extra happy to

5231
03:20:00,321 --> 03:20:01,456
present in the store for center

5232
03:20:01,522 --> 03:20:02,924
mintmark because I have-

5233
03:20:02,990 --> 03:20:04,892
authored another version of this

5234
03:20:04,959 --> 03:20:06,661
bill. In the past and I'm

5235
03:20:06,728 --> 03:20:08,629
thrilled with senator menjivar

5236
03:20:08,696 --> 03:20:12,400
introduced said I'm. Proud to be

5237
03:20:12,467 --> 03:20:14,302
a joint authors are still. At

5238
03:20:14,369 --> 03:20:15,837
four fifty remove barriers to

5239
03:20:15,903 --> 03:20:17,271
housing for our most vulnerable-

5240
03:20:17,338 --> 03:20:21,008
young people- young people

5241
03:20:21,075 --> 03:20:22,710
exiting the foster care system

5242
03:20:22,777 --> 03:20:25,113
exiting the criminal justice

5243
03:20:25,179 --> 03:20:25,613
system are experiencing

5244
03:20:25,680 --> 03:20:27,415
homelessness- current law

5245
03:20:27,482 --> 03:20:28,449
directs the california

5246
03:20:28,516 --> 03:20:30,017
interagency council on

5247
03:20:30,084 --> 03:20:32,086
homelessness to establish goals

5248
03:20:32,153 --> 03:20:33,020
to prevent youth homelessness

5249
03:20:33,087 --> 03:20:34,188
and support increasing the

5250
03:20:34,255 --> 03:20:35,990
capacity of new and existing

5251
03:20:36,057 --> 03:20:37,825
service providers. For example

5252
03:20:37,892 --> 03:20:40,027
home to two point no but only

5253
03:20:40,094 --> 03:20:42,563
public agencies can be the lead

5254
03:20:42,630 --> 03:20:44,832
applicant for these projects sb

5255
03:20:44,899 --> 03:20:45,867
four fifty six law expand

5256
03:20:45,933 --> 03:20:48,236
program eligibility. For this

5257
03:20:48,302 --> 03:20:49,570
funding by allowing community

5258
03:20:49,637 --> 03:20:51,272
based organizations that

5259
03:20:51,339 --> 03:20:53,307
currently provide transitional

5260
03:20:53,374 --> 03:20:55,410
housing or emergency shelter to

5261
03:20:55,476 --> 03:20:57,779
be eligible for use only home

5262
03:20:57,845 --> 03:20:58,746
key projects we have some

5263
03:20:58,813 --> 03:21:00,882
amazing. Nonprofits around

5264
03:21:00,948 --> 03:21:02,583
states that are very experienced

5265
03:21:02,650 --> 03:21:05,019
and helping you to get off the

5266
03:21:05,086 --> 03:21:05,820
streets and helping them

5267
03:21:05,887 --> 03:21:07,655
transition. To a better life one

5268
03:21:07,722 --> 03:21:09,457
of the most california. Counties

5269
03:21:09,524 --> 03:21:11,659
do not have to specific homes

5270
03:21:11,726 --> 03:21:14,262
programs- and we need to make

5271
03:21:14,328 --> 03:21:16,030
sure that are non profits that

5272
03:21:16,097 --> 03:21:18,132
help these young people- are

5273
03:21:18,199 --> 03:21:19,801
able to help them exit and

5274
03:21:19,867 --> 03:21:21,736
access is funding directly and

5275
03:21:21,803 --> 03:21:23,671
not have to rely on. The

5276
03:21:23,738 --> 03:21:25,940
possibility that the local

5277
03:21:26,007 --> 03:21:27,942
government will try to access.

5278
03:21:28,009 --> 03:21:30,478
the funding. If we can help

5279
03:21:30,545 --> 03:21:32,246
these young people stabilize

5280
03:21:32,313 --> 03:21:34,515
their lives and become pals at a

5281
03:21:34,582 --> 03:21:38,252
younger age- we will avoid- them

5282
03:21:38,319 --> 03:21:39,420
spiraling into chronic

5283
03:21:39,487 --> 03:21:41,489
homelessness and help them get

5284
03:21:41,556 --> 03:21:44,025
on a better track can help save

5285
03:21:44,091 --> 03:21:48,362
their lives. So. Respectfully

5286
03:21:48,429 --> 03:21:53,000
ask for and I don't. Thank you

5287
03:21:53,067 --> 03:21:55,002
very much so- wiener. Now let's

5288
03:21:55,069 --> 03:21:56,337
hear per from any witnesses in

5289
03:21:56,404 --> 03:21:58,105
support in to assist lead

5290
03:21:58,172 --> 03:22:00,074
opposite let need support.

5291
03:22:00,141 --> 03:22:01,843
perfect thank you at center

5292
03:22:01,909 --> 03:22:03,044
wiener and committee members

5293
03:22:03,110 --> 03:22:04,178
thank for the opportunity speak

5294
03:22:04,245 --> 03:22:06,113
about the importance of sb four

5295
03:22:06,180 --> 03:22:07,648
fifty six which both on senator

5296
03:22:07,715 --> 03:22:08,382
wiener's leadership to secure

5297
03:22:08,449 --> 03:22:10,818
funding for. Housing and

5298
03:22:10,885 --> 03:22:12,487
homelessness to address there.

5299
03:22:12,553 --> 03:22:14,722
are states most vulnerable youth

5300
03:22:14,789 --> 03:22:15,389
and kristen power with the

5301
03:22:15,456 --> 03:22:16,457
alliance for children's rights.

5302
03:22:16,524 --> 03:22:17,592
the critically important to

5303
03:22:17,658 --> 03:22:18,693
invest increase housing

5304
03:22:18,759 --> 03:22:20,261
availability to ensure that all

5305
03:22:20,328 --> 03:22:21,529
who want to participate in our

5306
03:22:21,596 --> 03:22:23,331
extend foster care program can

5307
03:22:23,397 --> 03:22:24,699
take full advantage of the

5308
03:22:24,765 --> 03:22:25,366
program and unaccompanied

5309
03:22:25,433 --> 03:22:27,068
homeless youth. Are safely and

5310
03:22:27,134 --> 03:22:28,970
stably housed to prevent the

5311
03:22:29,036 --> 03:22:29,504
heightened risk of their

5312
03:22:29,570 --> 03:22:31,339
entering homelessness we deeply

5313
03:22:31,405 --> 03:22:32,907
appreciate center image of ours

5314
03:22:32,974 --> 03:22:34,709
leadership on this issue area

5315
03:22:34,775 --> 03:22:36,277
and senator wiener's continuing

5316
03:22:36,344 --> 03:22:38,179
support to prioritize developing

5317
03:22:38,246 --> 03:22:39,514
safe and stable housing for

5318
03:22:39,580 --> 03:22:43,718
youth. Respectfully ask your aye

5319
03:22:43,784 --> 03:22:45,720
vote. Good evening himmler's

5320
03:22:45,786 --> 03:22:46,554
representing the california

5321
03:22:46,621 --> 03:22:48,389
coalition for youth when the co

5322
03:22:48,456 --> 03:22:49,557
sponsors of the spell and just

5323
03:22:49,624 --> 03:22:52,260
in light of the hour I'll just

5324
03:22:52,326 --> 03:22:53,261
keep my remarks start I wanted

5325
03:22:53,327 --> 03:22:55,329
to share a story about a young

5326
03:22:55,396 --> 03:22:56,898
person but- also for that for

5327
03:22:56,964 --> 03:22:58,266
another day and the power of

5328
03:22:58,332 --> 03:22:59,667
these housing interventions are

5329
03:22:59,734 --> 03:23:00,434
really what's going to change

5330
03:23:00,501 --> 03:23:01,769
the trajectories of our young

5331
03:23:01,836 --> 03:23:02,770
people's lives. And support them

5332
03:23:02,837 --> 03:23:04,805
to be successful in the future

5333
03:23:04,872 --> 03:23:06,107
and that's what we want for all

5334
03:23:06,173 --> 03:23:08,309
of our young people. And it's a

5335
03:23:08,376 --> 03:23:10,111
way for us to really check out

5336
03:23:10,177 --> 03:23:11,779
the what away at the unsheltered

5337
03:23:11,846 --> 03:23:12,446
numbers of our young people who

5338
03:23:12,513 --> 03:23:13,648
are sleeping at the street

5339
03:23:13,714 --> 03:23:15,349
california has seventy point 5%

5340
03:23:15,416 --> 03:23:17,785
of our young people counted that

5341
03:23:17,852 --> 03:23:18,452
are unsheltered. And so this is

5342
03:23:18,519 --> 03:23:19,587
a bill to really solve that.

5343
03:23:19,654 --> 03:23:20,755
challenge and we really want you

5344
03:23:20,821 --> 03:23:22,690
to say yes today and know that

5345
03:23:22,757 --> 03:23:24,458
when we invest in our young

5346
03:23:24,525 --> 03:23:25,726
people were investing in them

5347
03:23:25,793 --> 03:23:27,929
and we believe in them we

5348
03:23:27,995 --> 03:23:28,696
believe in our future so

5349
03:23:28,763 --> 03:23:30,097
appreciate us. Thank you. Thank

5350
03:23:30,164 --> 03:23:32,066
you very much now we're going to

5351
03:23:32,133 --> 03:23:34,001
move forward and- openers for

5352
03:23:34,068 --> 03:23:36,704
sorry. Stars given or the space-

5353
03:23:36,771 --> 03:23:38,039
is this on their behalf of the

5354
03:23:38,105 --> 03:23:39,440
california academy of child and

5355
03:23:39,507 --> 03:23:41,075
adolescent psychiatry in support

5356
03:23:41,142 --> 03:23:42,410
as well as california state

5357
03:23:42,476 --> 03:23:44,879
association of psychiatrists in

5358
03:23:44,946 --> 03:23:47,548
support. Thanks thank you. And

5359
03:23:47,615 --> 03:23:50,117
c. N. N. F. And what children

5360
03:23:50,184 --> 03:23:53,487
now in support. Thank you do we

5361
03:23:53,554 --> 03:23:55,590
have any other witnesses in

5362
03:23:55,656 --> 03:23:59,860
support. Sb four fifty six

5363
03:23:59,927 --> 03:24:02,763
hearing room top hundred. C.

5364
03:24:02,830 --> 03:24:04,865
nine will now move on to the

5365
03:24:04,932 --> 03:24:07,034
witnesses in opposition. Let's

5366
03:24:07,101 --> 03:24:10,304
hear from opposition witnesses

5367
03:24:10,371 --> 03:24:14,909
in room. Twelve hundred. Scene

5368
03:24:14,976 --> 03:24:17,478
nine. That's great thank. You

5369
03:24:17,545 --> 03:24:19,614
will now move on to witnesses

5370
03:24:19,680 --> 03:24:20,514
waiting to testify idea to

5371
03:24:20,581 --> 03:24:21,949
teleconference service. Will be

5372
03:24:22,016 --> 03:24:25,286
limiting phone testimony to

5373
03:24:25,353 --> 03:24:26,454
twenty minutes for all bills

5374
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:29,490
during this hearing. If you are

5375
03:24:29,557 --> 03:24:31,692
in support or opposition. S. B.

5376
03:24:31,759 --> 03:24:36,897
u. Four fifty six it is one

5377
03:24:36,964 --> 03:24:38,065
seven zero. Let's start with my

5378
03:24:38,132 --> 03:24:41,636
number forty five. Your number

5379
03:24:41,702 --> 03:24:42,370
three and on behalf of

5380
03:24:42,436 --> 03:24:43,671
california court appointed

5381
03:24:43,738 --> 03:24:45,573
special advocates association or

5382
03:24:45,640 --> 03:24:48,309
cal costs in support of sb four

5383
03:24:48,376 --> 03:24:51,145
fifty six thank you. Thank you

5384
03:24:51,212 --> 03:25:00,788
next we will go to line number.

5385
03:25:00,855 --> 03:25:05,860
three fifty one. He won. Hello

5386
03:25:05,926 --> 03:25:10,131
where. Hi my name is brad

5387
03:25:10,197 --> 03:25:10,998
richards mobile cooperative

5388
03:25:11,065 --> 03:25:13,501
local one eighty I miss support

5389
03:25:13,567 --> 03:25:17,304
a fifty twenty one. Thank you

5390
03:25:17,371 --> 03:25:18,939
next we'll go to line numbers

5391
03:25:19,006 --> 03:25:23,144
thirty two please go ahead. I am

5392
03:25:23,210 --> 03:25:24,712
not found open front support

5393
03:25:24,779 --> 03:25:30,117
thank you so much. Thank for the

5394
03:25:30,184 --> 03:25:31,452
next to a bottom line number for

5395
03:25:31,519 --> 03:25:36,691
all. Five okay the only park on

5396
03:25:36,757 --> 03:25:38,025
behalf of replace the youth and

5397
03:25:38,092 --> 03:25:42,063
the part. Thank you an actual to

5398
03:25:42,129 --> 03:25:45,766
line number. Three ninety eight.

5399
03:25:45,833 --> 03:25:48,469
mandarin be on behalf of the

5400
03:25:48,536 --> 03:25:49,036
california alliance family

5401
03:25:49,103 --> 03:25:52,339
services in shock report. Thank

5402
03:25:52,406 --> 03:25:54,408
you and we do not have any more

5403
03:25:54,475 --> 03:25:57,044
in the queue manager. Thank you

5404
03:25:57,111 --> 03:25:59,547
madam moderator. Thank you to

5405
03:25:59,613 --> 03:26:01,382
all our support in opposition

5406
03:26:01,449 --> 03:26:03,117
witnesses will now bring the

5407
03:26:03,184 --> 03:26:05,920
discussion back to our members.

5408
03:26:05,986 --> 03:26:08,122
seeing no discussion or

5409
03:26:08,189 --> 03:26:11,459
questions from our members-

5410
03:26:11,525 --> 03:26:12,693
senator when would you like to

5411
03:26:12,760 --> 03:26:14,729
close. On behalf of senator

5412
03:26:14,795 --> 03:26:18,165
mandatory surplus from the vote

5413
03:26:18,232 --> 03:26:21,001
. We have motion. Follow the

5414
03:26:21,068 --> 03:26:22,870
plan thank you senator umberg we

5415
03:26:22,937 --> 03:26:25,406
have a motion that I'm secretary

5416
03:26:25,473 --> 03:26:26,574
please call the roll. The senate

5417
03:26:26,640 --> 03:26:28,876
bill for thirty six for senator

5418
03:26:28,943 --> 03:26:29,777
menjivar the motion is to pass

5419
03:26:29,844 --> 03:26:31,345
and refer the committee on human

5420
03:26:31,412 --> 03:26:33,581
services center wiener. Wiener

5421
03:26:33,647 --> 03:26:35,649
hi but chau book I the troubled

5422
03:26:35,716 --> 03:26:37,885
by blix verify like spare us

5423
03:26:37,952 --> 03:26:41,455
camaro cortese mcguire padilla.

5424
03:26:41,522 --> 03:26:43,958
there are two. Zero two five

5425
03:26:44,024 --> 03:26:48,729
skinner number. Number five the

5426
03:26:48,796 --> 03:26:53,734
house. Five the vote is five

5427
03:26:53,801 --> 03:26:55,603
zero will the role open our and

5428
03:26:55,669 --> 03:26:57,671
caps members thank you in work.

5429
03:26:57,738 --> 03:27:01,175
check okay were I think centers

5430
03:27:01,242 --> 03:27:03,043
. Will be presenting on behalf

5431
03:27:03,110 --> 03:27:05,746
of center caballero just on our

5432
03:27:05,813 --> 03:27:11,786
way- back so we'll first pause

5433
03:27:11,852 --> 03:27:12,920
to eight. The centers for about

5434
03:27:12,987 --> 03:27:21,762
three level other bill in the.

5435
03:27:21,829 --> 03:27:23,731
nineteen this please call me or

5436
03:27:23,798 --> 03:27:34,708
come back. This year's. This is

5437
03:27:34,775 --> 03:27:37,178
a rural voters skinner number of

5438
03:27:37,244 --> 03:27:42,049
with. Twenty three. She was a

5439
03:27:42,116 --> 03:27:46,187
yeah. Okay so- have two bills

5440
03:27:46,253 --> 03:27:48,889
vice cover that will present by

5441
03:27:48,956 --> 03:27:51,158
centers will start with item

5442
03:27:51,225 --> 03:27:59,834
five as b. Thirty so. He. Thank

5443
03:27:59,900 --> 03:28:01,368
you of chair and members please

5444
03:28:01,435 --> 03:28:02,603
to present sb three seven behalf

5445
03:28:02,670 --> 03:28:04,205
of kerr. Sb thirty seven create

5446
03:28:04,271 --> 03:28:06,207
a program to per house subsidy

5447
03:28:06,273 --> 03:28:07,508
to all adults. It and adults

5448
03:28:07,575 --> 03:28:08,642
with disabilities who are x. Or

5449
03:28:08,709 --> 03:28:10,044
are at risk of experiencing

5450
03:28:10,110 --> 03:28:12,980
homelessness. We know that folks

5451
03:28:13,047 --> 03:28:15,783
with who are older car rather

5452
03:28:15,850 --> 03:28:17,952
californians who are older or

5453
03:28:18,018 --> 03:28:20,120
with disabilities are finding it

5454
03:28:20,187 --> 03:28:22,857
in. Creasing lee difficult to

5455
03:28:22,923 --> 03:28:26,493
afford the high cost of housing

5456
03:28:26,560 --> 03:28:28,662
. And with their fixed incomes

5457
03:28:28,729 --> 03:28:30,898
that they live on our in

5458
03:28:30,965 --> 03:28:33,167
adequate to cover rising rents.

5459
03:28:33,234 --> 03:28:34,869
for extremely low income renters

5460
03:28:34,935 --> 03:28:36,704
roughly eight out of ten spend

5461
03:28:36,770 --> 03:28:39,373
more than 50% of their monthly

5462
03:28:39,440 --> 03:28:40,741
income on rent. People with

5463
03:28:40,808 --> 03:28:44,011
disabilities comprise about 46%

5464
03:28:44,078 --> 03:28:45,012
of those who experience

5465
03:28:45,079 --> 03:28:47,014
homelessness an african american

5466
03:28:47,081 --> 03:28:48,449
households are more than five

5467
03:28:48,515 --> 03:28:50,417
times as likely to experience

5468
03:28:50,484 --> 03:28:52,987
homelessness as compared to.

5469
03:28:53,053 --> 03:28:55,256
general population californians

5470
03:28:55,322 --> 03:28:56,690
. So while there are programs

5471
03:28:56,757 --> 03:28:58,859
such as the home safe program in

5472
03:28:58,926 --> 03:29:00,594
the homeless disability program.

5473
03:29:00,661 --> 03:29:02,663
there is no comprehensive state

5474
03:29:02,730 --> 03:29:04,164
program to provide housing

5475
03:29:04,231 --> 03:29:06,634
subsidies for older and disabled

5476
03:29:06,700 --> 03:29:08,535
adults who are on fixed incomes.

5477
03:29:08,602 --> 03:29:10,371
and housing vouchers such as

5478
03:29:10,437 --> 03:29:12,306
section eight and other things

5479
03:29:12,373 --> 03:29:14,575
like that often can take years

5480
03:29:14,642 --> 03:29:16,877
for applicants to access there's

5481
03:29:16,944 --> 03:29:19,914
most of us know they have long

5482
03:29:19,980 --> 03:29:20,714
waiting lists. And the only

5483
03:29:20,781 --> 03:29:22,883
accommodate fraction of eligible

5484
03:29:22,950 --> 03:29:25,619
applicants so what sb thirty

5485
03:29:25,686 --> 03:29:26,587
seven does is provide a rent

5486
03:29:26,654 --> 03:29:28,622
subsidy targeted to those older

5487
03:29:28,689 --> 03:29:30,991
adults and the adults with

5488
03:29:31,058 --> 03:29:31,926
disabilities. Who are homeless

5489
03:29:31,992 --> 03:29:33,928
or at high risk of falling into

5490
03:29:33,994 --> 03:29:36,163
homelessness it establishes the

5491
03:29:36,230 --> 03:29:37,564
older adults and adults with

5492
03:29:37,631 --> 03:29:40,267
disability housing stability act

5493
03:29:40,334 --> 03:29:42,937
within the department of housing

5494
03:29:43,003 --> 03:29:43,570
and community development. To

5495
03:29:43,637 --> 03:29:44,872
administer an offer competitive

5496
03:29:44,939 --> 03:29:46,473
grants to nonprofit

5497
03:29:46,540 --> 03:29:48,309
organizations continuum's of

5498
03:29:48,375 --> 03:29:50,611
care and other organizations

5499
03:29:50,678 --> 03:29:52,646
that can provide the service. In

5500
03:29:52,713 --> 03:29:54,148
the grantees will provide

5501
03:29:54,214 --> 03:29:56,450
subsidies to help older adults

5502
03:29:56,517 --> 03:29:57,217
and adults with disabilities

5503
03:29:57,284 --> 03:29:59,954
remain housed with the subsidies

5504
03:30:00,020 --> 03:30:02,156
covering the difference between

5505
03:30:02,222 --> 03:30:05,993
30% of households. Income in the

5506
03:30:06,060 --> 03:30:06,961
units reasonable rent. By

5507
03:30:07,027 --> 03:30:08,862
investing in subsea such as this

5508
03:30:08,929 --> 03:30:12,533
we can help. These californians

5509
03:30:12,599 --> 03:30:14,735
who deserve to be house and with

5510
03:30:14,802 --> 03:30:16,670
that I would like to have dr

5511
03:30:16,737 --> 03:30:20,774
markel margo shell- who is a

5512
03:30:20,841 --> 03:30:22,443
researcher on homelessness and

5513
03:30:22,509 --> 03:30:25,212
sharon rappaport from the-

5514
03:30:25,279 --> 03:30:26,580
california state policy for the

5515
03:30:26,647 --> 03:30:28,983
corporation for supportive

5516
03:30:29,049 --> 03:30:30,617
housing be the witnesses. Thank

5517
03:30:30,684 --> 03:30:32,419
you senator skinner nice to see

5518
03:30:32,486 --> 03:30:33,921
you again and mark because shall

5519
03:30:33,988 --> 03:30:35,723
from ucsf. Do we know that

5520
03:30:35,789 --> 03:30:37,291
california's homeless population

5521
03:30:37,358 --> 03:30:39,226
is aging. In our recent

5522
03:30:39,293 --> 03:30:41,562
statewide study of homelessness

5523
03:30:41,628 --> 03:30:43,130
almost half of all adults

5524
03:30:43,197 --> 03:30:44,465
experiencing homelessness in the

5525
03:30:44,531 --> 03:30:47,167
state are now fifty and older.

5526
03:30:47,234 --> 03:30:48,669
we know from our research as

5527
03:30:48,736 --> 03:30:49,970
adults were fifteen older and

5528
03:30:50,037 --> 03:30:51,205
homeless have health problems

5529
03:30:51,271 --> 03:30:53,307
much more similar to those of

5530
03:30:53,374 --> 03:30:55,009
adults in their seventies and

5531
03:30:55,075 --> 03:30:56,877
eighties and approx me half of

5532
03:30:56,944 --> 03:30:59,079
them first become homeless after

5533
03:30:59,146 --> 03:31:01,448
fifty. These are not folks with

5534
03:31:01,515 --> 03:31:02,983
a lot of significant substance

5535
03:31:03,050 --> 03:31:04,852
use and mental health problems

5536
03:31:04,918 --> 03:31:07,287
but their house is terrible.

5537
03:31:07,354 --> 03:31:08,522
very how you to emergency

5538
03:31:08,589 --> 03:31:11,091
departments very high use of

5539
03:31:11,158 --> 03:31:12,226
hospitalizations prolonged and

5540
03:31:12,292 --> 03:31:14,628
avoidable stays in nursing homes

5541
03:31:14,695 --> 03:31:16,497
and they die at three and a half

5542
03:31:16,563 --> 03:31:18,265
times the rate that they would

5543
03:31:18,332 --> 03:31:20,134
be expected had they been house.

5544
03:31:20,200 --> 03:31:21,001
california's housing

5545
03:31:21,068 --> 03:31:22,302
affordability crisis

5546
03:31:22,369 --> 03:31:24,104
disproportionately impacts older

5547
03:31:24,171 --> 03:31:26,507
adults they're more likely to be

5548
03:31:26,573 --> 03:31:27,841
severely cost burdened and this

5549
03:31:27,908 --> 03:31:29,443
disproportionately affects older

5550
03:31:29,510 --> 03:31:32,012
black californians as well.

5551
03:31:32,079 --> 03:31:35,916
let's say in our longitudinal.

5552
03:31:35,983 --> 03:31:36,984
study of older homeless adults.

5553
03:31:37,051 --> 03:31:39,219
the good is 80% became re housed

5554
03:31:39,286 --> 03:31:41,321
over the course of the study the

5555
03:31:41,388 --> 03:31:43,457
bad news is 50% of those who

5556
03:31:43,524 --> 03:31:44,691
regained housing became homeless

5557
03:31:44,758 --> 03:31:46,760
again. Within about a year of

5558
03:31:46,827 --> 03:31:48,295
becoming every getting their

5559
03:31:48,362 --> 03:31:50,464
housing the only thing that

5560
03:31:50,531 --> 03:31:52,032
prevented that. With subsidies

5561
03:31:52,099 --> 03:31:53,834
the folks a subsidy state house

5562
03:31:53,901 --> 03:31:56,136
to everyone else just returned

5563
03:31:56,203 --> 03:31:57,104
nearly announced returned to the

5564
03:31:57,171 --> 03:31:58,672
streets. Homelessness among

5565
03:31:58,739 --> 03:32:00,441
older adults is reaching crisis

5566
03:32:00,507 --> 03:32:01,909
proportions in their states

5567
03:32:01,975 --> 03:32:03,844
subsidies for these individuals

5568
03:32:03,911 --> 03:32:05,579
at high risk of homelessness and

5569
03:32:05,646 --> 03:32:06,780
those who recently exited

5570
03:32:06,847 --> 03:32:08,315
homelessness. Are in evidence

5571
03:32:08,382 --> 03:32:10,317
bay based way to prevent this

5572
03:32:10,384 --> 03:32:13,487
catastrophe would be happy to

5573
03:32:13,554 --> 03:32:15,389
take any questions if you have

5574
03:32:15,456 --> 03:32:19,460
them. Good afternoon sharon

5575
03:32:19,526 --> 03:32:21,161
members I'm sure in report with

5576
03:32:21,228 --> 03:32:22,596
the corporation for supportive

5577
03:32:22,663 --> 03:32:24,231
housing a national nonprofit

5578
03:32:24,298 --> 03:32:25,933
working to solve homelessness.

5579
03:32:25,999 --> 03:32:28,335
we are one of five sponsors of-

5580
03:32:28,402 --> 03:32:31,105
sb thirty seven. Sb thirty seven

5581
03:32:31,171 --> 03:32:32,439
offerings offers proven

5582
03:32:32,506 --> 03:32:34,508
interventions to achieving the

5583
03:32:34,575 --> 03:32:36,210
master of the california master

5584
03:32:36,276 --> 03:32:37,411
planned for aging goal of

5585
03:32:37,478 --> 03:32:39,446
preventing and ending

5586
03:32:39,513 --> 03:32:41,115
homelessness among older adults

5587
03:32:41,181 --> 03:32:42,749
. As the analysis suggested and

5588
03:32:42,816 --> 03:32:45,385
doctor crystal mentioned housing

5589
03:32:45,452 --> 03:32:46,553
subsidies are one of the most

5590
03:32:46,620 --> 03:32:48,055
successful interventions in

5591
03:32:48,122 --> 03:32:49,456
preventing and solving

5592
03:32:49,523 --> 03:32:51,959
homelessness. Unlike other state

5593
03:32:52,025 --> 03:32:54,061
programs as b. Thirty seven uses

5594
03:32:54,128 --> 03:32:56,096
a flexible approach to providing

5595
03:32:56,163 --> 03:32:57,965
housing subsidies. They can find

5596
03:32:58,031 --> 03:32:59,566
shallow subsidies to allow

5597
03:32:59,633 --> 03:33:01,168
people on fixed incomes to

5598
03:33:01,235 --> 03:33:03,437
remain house. And a few local

5599
03:33:03,504 --> 03:33:04,872
programs follow this model of

5600
03:33:04,938 --> 03:33:07,207
funding subsidies- and have

5601
03:33:07,274 --> 03:33:08,942
found that as little as two

5602
03:33:09,009 --> 03:33:10,644
hundred dollars a month. Can

5603
03:33:10,711 --> 03:33:12,513
keep somebody and housing-

5604
03:33:12,579 --> 03:33:15,182
safely for the rest of their

5605
03:33:15,249 --> 03:33:16,517
lives. It also allows local

5606
03:33:16,583 --> 03:33:18,485
grantees are for deep subsidies

5607
03:33:18,552 --> 03:33:20,354
for those who are experiencing

5608
03:33:20,420 --> 03:33:21,955
homelessness. The most

5609
03:33:22,022 --> 03:33:23,624
challenging task of crafting a

5610
03:33:23,690 --> 03:33:25,526
prevention program is

5611
03:33:25,592 --> 03:33:27,060
identifying people who would

5612
03:33:27,127 --> 03:33:28,428
become homeless without the

5613
03:33:28,495 --> 03:33:31,098
assistance so as to be thirty

5614
03:33:31,165 --> 03:33:31,965
seven uses data from the

5615
03:33:32,032 --> 03:33:33,901
california policy lab. To

5616
03:33:33,967 --> 03:33:35,602
identify risk factors and

5617
03:33:35,669 --> 03:33:37,704
predictors and added in a five

5618
03:33:37,771 --> 03:33:39,339
people most likely to fall into

5619
03:33:39,406 --> 03:33:42,376
homelessness. In this way as b.

5620
03:33:42,442 --> 03:33:44,044
thirty seven is unique as it

5621
03:33:44,111 --> 03:33:45,179
dedicates resources to those

5622
03:33:45,245 --> 03:33:47,915
truly at risk of homelessness.

5623
03:33:47,981 --> 03:33:48,849
three one time funding the

5624
03:33:48,916 --> 03:33:50,250
program would serve tens of

5625
03:33:50,317 --> 03:33:51,752
thousands of older adults and

5626
03:33:51,818 --> 03:33:53,854
people with disability at the

5627
03:33:53,921 --> 03:33:54,855
greatest risk of becoming

5628
03:33:54,922 --> 03:33:56,757
homeless. The similar to other

5629
03:33:56,823 --> 03:33:59,026
state programs finally this

5630
03:33:59,092 --> 03:34:00,761
program calls on the state to

5631
03:34:00,827 --> 03:34:02,429
connect participants to federal

5632
03:34:02,496 --> 03:34:07,434
vouchers. For their making this

5633
03:34:07,501 --> 03:34:08,435
program unique. We senator cover

5634
03:34:08,502 --> 03:34:09,836
yet as leadership senator

5635
03:34:09,903 --> 03:34:12,406
scanners on this bill and we ask

5636
03:34:12,472 --> 03:34:15,275
for your aye vote thank you.

5637
03:34:15,342 --> 03:34:19,680
digital support. Benji with

5638
03:34:19,746 --> 03:34:21,315
inner city law center where skid

5639
03:34:21,381 --> 03:34:22,683
row's pro bono legal services

5640
03:34:22,749 --> 03:34:23,850
visor and we serve homeless

5641
03:34:23,917 --> 03:34:27,054
folks throughout la county- very

5642
03:34:27,120 --> 03:34:31,124
third support this bill. Because

5643
03:34:31,191 --> 03:34:33,827
the on behalf of western center

5644
03:34:33,894 --> 03:34:36,797
on law and poverty in support.

5645
03:34:36,863 --> 03:34:37,831
is this on their behalf of

5646
03:34:37,898 --> 03:34:39,533
madera county board of

5647
03:34:39,600 --> 03:34:43,537
supervisors and support thanks.

5648
03:34:43,604 --> 03:34:45,239
rebecca markets on behalf of two

5649
03:34:45,305 --> 03:34:46,373
of the bill's co sponsors

5650
03:34:46,440 --> 03:34:47,774
leading h. California and

5651
03:34:47,841 --> 03:34:52,312
justice in aging thank you.

5652
03:34:52,379 --> 03:34:53,580
amberley leslie with housing

5653
03:34:53,647 --> 03:35:00,087
california in support of a ski.

5654
03:35:00,153 --> 03:35:01,054
thirty seven. March the average

5655
03:35:01,121 --> 03:35:02,189
for the california housing

5656
03:35:02,256 --> 03:35:05,158
partnership in support thank you

5657
03:35:05,225 --> 03:35:08,695
. A brian leahy- aarp volunteer-

5658
03:35:08,762 --> 03:35:11,498
on behalf of a three point two

5659
03:35:11,565 --> 03:35:13,734
million members in support.

5660
03:35:13,800 --> 03:35:14,668
thank you any additional

5661
03:35:14,735 --> 03:35:18,939
support- in the room. Thirty

5662
03:35:19,006 --> 03:35:20,007
nine is there any opposition to

5663
03:35:20,073 --> 03:35:21,508
this bill we have no registered

5664
03:35:21,575 --> 03:35:23,010
opposition but anyone here

5665
03:35:23,076 --> 03:35:25,612
opposition. Focusing on will

5666
03:35:25,679 --> 03:35:27,447
open the phone lines for the

5667
03:35:27,514 --> 03:35:28,982
moderator please see if there's

5668
03:35:29,049 --> 03:35:31,918
anyone on the line for this bill

5669
03:35:31,985 --> 03:35:33,053
. You are in support or

5670
03:35:33,120 --> 03:35:36,490
opposition sb thirty seven it's

5671
03:35:36,556 --> 03:35:39,393
one then zero. And we will start

5672
03:35:39,459 --> 03:35:46,600
with my number one thirty q. My

5673
03:35:46,667 --> 03:35:47,634
number one thirty two your line

5674
03:35:47,701 --> 03:35:53,240
is open. Sorry we will move on

5675
03:35:53,307 --> 03:35:55,242
to the next here and it is my

5676
03:35:55,309 --> 03:35:58,245
number four oh six please go

5677
03:35:58,312 --> 03:36:01,515
ahead. Mister chairman burke

5678
03:36:01,581 --> 03:36:03,717
anderson up top of the arc in

5679
03:36:03,784 --> 03:36:04,685
united terrible of the

5680
03:36:04,751 --> 03:36:06,853
california coalition a

5681
03:36:06,920 --> 03:36:07,954
collaboration excuse me and we

5682
03:36:08,021 --> 03:36:11,658
have a support system thank you

5683
03:36:11,725 --> 03:36:13,927
. Thank you and we do not have

5684
03:36:13,994 --> 03:36:17,030
anymore in the queue. Okay will

5685
03:36:17,097 --> 03:36:18,598
report to the committee any

5686
03:36:18,665 --> 03:36:20,734
questions or comments colleagues

5687
03:36:20,801 --> 03:36:22,636
senator boxer. She added the

5688
03:36:22,703 --> 03:36:23,770
information that you shared

5689
03:36:23,837 --> 03:36:25,339
senator skinner and also the

5690
03:36:25,405 --> 03:36:26,673
testimony today it was all very

5691
03:36:26,740 --> 03:36:27,708
persuasive and I'm really

5692
03:36:27,774 --> 03:36:28,809
excited about supporting this

5693
03:36:28,875 --> 03:36:30,811
bill thank you for the motion is

5694
03:36:30,877 --> 03:36:31,645
a motion. For an emotional

5695
03:36:31,712 --> 03:36:33,280
center place for any other

5696
03:36:33,347 --> 03:36:35,048
questions or comments thirty

5697
03:36:35,115 --> 03:36:37,150
nine- you may close on behalf of

5698
03:36:37,217 --> 03:36:38,485
senator copyright ask for your

5699
03:36:38,552 --> 03:36:42,622
I. Boats terrific we will call

5700
03:36:42,689 --> 03:36:43,990
the roll. But I'm recommending

5701
03:36:44,057 --> 03:36:45,759
an aye vote. The senate thirty

5702
03:36:45,826 --> 03:36:48,028
seven messana where most to pass

5703
03:36:48,095 --> 03:36:49,763
referred committee on human

5704
03:36:49,830 --> 03:36:51,365
services senator wiener. Wiener

5705
03:36:51,431 --> 03:36:54,067
I trouble I the troubled by

5706
03:36:54,134 --> 03:36:55,535
clicks here five six hereby

5707
03:36:55,602 --> 03:37:00,741
cover. Partisi. Courtesy hi

5708
03:37:00,807 --> 03:37:04,478
require for the a fair to. Their

5709
03:37:04,544 --> 03:37:06,146
to five skinner five skinner I-

5710
03:37:06,213 --> 03:37:11,518
burke number five will. Okay

5711
03:37:11,585 --> 03:37:12,953
voters seven zero will put bill

5712
03:37:13,019 --> 03:37:14,488
on call for apps members. We're

5713
03:37:14,554 --> 03:37:16,690
now going roads were final bill

5714
03:37:16,757 --> 03:37:19,526
and speak two two five center

5715
03:37:19,593 --> 03:37:20,427
caballero I will also be

5716
03:37:20,494 --> 03:37:22,062
presented by centers skinner.

5717
03:37:22,129 --> 03:37:23,530
percent thank you mister chair

5718
03:37:23,597 --> 03:37:26,099
members pleased to present s. B.

5719
03:37:26,166 --> 03:37:27,434
two two five on behalf of

5720
03:37:27,501 --> 03:37:29,336
senator cafiero. The bill

5721
03:37:29,403 --> 03:37:31,271
creates the community anti

5722
03:37:31,338 --> 03:37:33,507
displacement preservation

5723
03:37:33,573 --> 03:37:35,942
program for cap within the

5724
03:37:36,009 --> 03:37:36,476
department of housing and

5725
03:37:36,543 --> 03:37:38,278
community development. In that

5726
03:37:38,345 --> 03:37:39,846
program will provide financial

5727
03:37:39,913 --> 03:37:41,815
resources and technical capacity

5728
03:37:41,882 --> 03:37:43,216
building to community

5729
03:37:43,283 --> 03:37:44,317
organizations and local

5730
03:37:44,384 --> 03:37:46,420
jurisdictions that which to

5731
03:37:46,486 --> 03:37:49,556
acquire funds subsidized housing

5732
03:37:49,623 --> 03:37:51,558
from the speculative market

5733
03:37:51,625 --> 03:37:53,427
where the residents in that

5734
03:37:53,493 --> 03:37:55,996
housing are at risk for

5735
03:37:56,062 --> 03:37:58,165
displacement. And then the after

5736
03:37:58,231 --> 03:37:59,633
the purchase would preserve it

5737
03:37:59,699 --> 03:38:01,868
as affordable rental housing for

5738
03:38:01,935 --> 03:38:03,937
homeownership opportunity. A

5739
03:38:04,004 --> 03:38:05,639
large majority of low income

5740
03:38:05,705 --> 03:38:07,641
californians live in

5741
03:38:07,707 --> 03:38:10,377
unsubsidized affordable housing

5742
03:38:10,444 --> 03:38:12,446
housing which is privately owned

5743
03:38:12,512 --> 03:38:14,114
and currently somewhat

5744
03:38:14,181 --> 03:38:15,682
affordable to low income

5745
03:38:15,749 --> 03:38:17,250
households but of course over

5746
03:38:17,317 --> 03:38:19,352
time may not be or could be sold

5747
03:38:19,419 --> 03:38:21,455
in might not be. So due to a

5748
03:38:21,521 --> 03:38:23,457
variety of reasons this unserved

5749
03:38:23,523 --> 03:38:25,192
diced affordable housing is

5750
03:38:25,258 --> 03:38:27,627
rapidly disappearing in response

5751
03:38:27,694 --> 03:38:30,163
local communities have begun to

5752
03:38:30,230 --> 03:38:33,133
acquire it. And preserve it the

5753
03:38:33,200 --> 03:38:35,735
strategy is known as acquisition

5754
03:38:35,802 --> 03:38:40,006
rehabilitation. Or act recap.

5755
03:38:40,073 --> 03:38:43,210
yeah under. This new pro cap hcd

5756
03:38:43,276 --> 03:38:45,111
would admit. A program to

5757
03:38:45,178 --> 03:38:47,147
provide grants and loans for

5758
03:38:47,214 --> 03:38:49,282
applicants an eligible borrowers

5759
03:38:49,349 --> 03:38:50,917
such as nonprofits are local

5760
03:38:50,984 --> 03:38:52,452
public entities such as housing

5761
03:38:52,519 --> 03:38:55,622
trusts. Can help offset the cost

5762
03:38:55,689 --> 03:38:58,692
to acquire and rehabilitate fund

5763
03:38:58,758 --> 03:39:00,393
subsidized market rate housing.

5764
03:39:00,460 --> 03:39:02,562
s. B. Two two five also creates

5765
03:39:02,629 --> 03:39:04,531
a technical assistance program

5766
03:39:04,598 --> 03:39:06,433
to support cap borrowers by

5767
03:39:06,500 --> 03:39:08,101
providing peer to peer learning

5768
03:39:08,168 --> 03:39:10,837
and consultation to assist with

5769
03:39:10,904 --> 03:39:12,672
resident engagement in education

5770
03:39:12,739 --> 03:39:14,708
property assessment affordable

5771
03:39:14,774 --> 03:39:16,476
housing operations and a

5772
03:39:16,543 --> 03:39:17,711
spectrum of ownership and

5773
03:39:17,777 --> 03:39:20,313
stewardship models. So that the

5774
03:39:20,380 --> 03:39:22,816
any- are borrowers under the cap

5775
03:39:22,883 --> 03:39:26,520
program can be sus successful-

5776
03:39:26,586 --> 03:39:27,721
so this is an innovative

5777
03:39:27,787 --> 03:39:28,855
partnership that will help

5778
03:39:28,922 --> 03:39:30,190
preserve housing that is

5779
03:39:30,257 --> 03:39:32,759
currently affordable but is not

5780
03:39:32,826 --> 03:39:34,327
in any kind of program to

5781
03:39:34,394 --> 03:39:35,996
preserve its long term put

5782
03:39:36,062 --> 03:39:38,098
affordability. And to testify in

5783
03:39:38,164 --> 03:39:39,533
support we have just seen

5784
03:39:39,599 --> 03:39:40,700
markets from the enterprise

5785
03:39:40,767 --> 03:39:42,836
community partners and amber lee

5786
03:39:42,903 --> 03:39:47,407
leslie with housing california.

5787
03:39:47,474 --> 03:39:50,343
welcome thank you senator

5788
03:39:50,410 --> 03:39:51,778
skinner and thank you mister

5789
03:39:51,845 --> 03:39:53,680
chair and committee members my

5790
03:39:53,747 --> 03:39:55,181
name is justin markets and I'm

5791
03:39:55,248 --> 03:39:56,449
the policy director with

5792
03:39:56,516 --> 03:39:58,485
enterprise community partners in

5793
03:39:58,552 --> 03:40:00,520
our northern california office.

5794
03:40:00,587 --> 03:40:01,755
enterprise is a national

5795
03:40:01,821 --> 03:40:03,123
nonprofit that develops

5796
03:40:03,189 --> 03:40:05,358
technical and capacity building

5797
03:40:05,425 --> 03:40:07,160
programs advocates for policies

5798
03:40:07,227 --> 03:40:08,862
and delivers the capital to

5799
03:40:08,929 --> 03:40:10,597
create and preserve affordable

5800
03:40:10,664 --> 03:40:12,399
housing for low income families.

5801
03:40:12,465 --> 03:40:15,101
we're proud to co sponsor s. B.

5802
03:40:15,168 --> 03:40:16,069
two two five authored by senator

5803
03:40:16,136 --> 03:40:19,072
cafiero to create the cap

5804
03:40:19,139 --> 03:40:20,674
program. Through enterprises

5805
03:40:20,740 --> 03:40:22,208
work both in california and

5806
03:40:22,275 --> 03:40:24,144
across the country we've seen

5807
03:40:24,210 --> 03:40:25,879
first hand that there's no

5808
03:40:25,946 --> 03:40:27,581
silver bullet to addressing our

5809
03:40:27,647 --> 03:40:29,616
housing and homelessness crisis

5810
03:40:29,683 --> 03:40:31,818
we need a comprehensive approach

5811
03:40:31,885 --> 03:40:33,687
and preservation specifically

5812
03:40:33,753 --> 03:40:35,555
acquisition we have which is the

5813
03:40:35,622 --> 03:40:37,223
focus of this bill. Is an

5814
03:40:37,290 --> 03:40:38,758
important tool in the state's

5815
03:40:38,825 --> 03:40:41,161
toolbox to promote affordability

5816
03:40:41,227 --> 03:40:42,762
prevent displacement and prevent

5817
03:40:42,829 --> 03:40:45,532
homelessness. For a communities

5818
03:40:45,599 --> 03:40:47,167
across the state local nonprofit

5819
03:40:47,233 --> 03:40:48,935
organizations community land

5820
03:40:49,002 --> 03:40:51,338
trust cities housing authorities

5821
03:40:51,404 --> 03:40:52,906
have been doing this type of

5822
03:40:52,973 --> 03:40:55,909
innovative acquisition work over

5823
03:40:55,976 --> 03:40:58,111
for over a decade. As a senator

5824
03:40:58,178 --> 03:40:59,746
described these organizations

5825
03:40:59,813 --> 03:41:01,348
are purchasing rental housing

5826
03:41:01,414 --> 03:41:02,515
from the private market were low

5827
03:41:02,582 --> 03:41:04,651
income households live today and

5828
03:41:04,718 --> 03:41:06,987
preserving it as deed restricted

5829
03:41:07,053 --> 03:41:08,121
affordable housing for the long

5830
03:41:08,188 --> 03:41:10,323
term. Cap was envisioned and

5831
03:41:10,390 --> 03:41:11,992
designed based on the lessons

5832
03:41:12,058 --> 03:41:13,526
learned and best practices from

5833
03:41:13,593 --> 03:41:15,428
these local efforts the design

5834
03:41:15,495 --> 03:41:17,263
of this program is grounded in

5835
03:41:17,330 --> 03:41:18,264
this engagement with local

5836
03:41:18,331 --> 03:41:20,133
practitioners. As well as

5837
03:41:20,200 --> 03:41:22,102
lessons learned from other state

5838
03:41:22,168 --> 03:41:23,603
programs at the housing

5839
03:41:23,670 --> 03:41:24,070
community development

5840
03:41:24,137 --> 03:41:26,439
department. We modeled at this

5841
03:41:26,506 --> 03:41:27,974
program off of the success of

5842
03:41:28,041 --> 03:41:28,875
each city's golden state

5843
03:41:28,942 --> 03:41:30,910
acquisition fund which for over

5844
03:41:30,977 --> 03:41:32,078
a decade has provided

5845
03:41:32,145 --> 03:41:34,481
acquisition capital for land to

5846
03:41:34,547 --> 03:41:36,816
build new housing. Cap is

5847
03:41:36,883 --> 03:41:38,852
designed in this model as a

5848
03:41:38,918 --> 03:41:40,420
partnership between each city

5849
03:41:40,487 --> 03:41:41,988
and nonprofit lenders who can

5850
03:41:42,055 --> 03:41:43,923
distribute program funds quickly

5851
03:41:43,990 --> 03:41:45,392
and efficiently to the

5852
03:41:45,458 --> 03:41:47,060
nonprofits and public sector

5853
03:41:47,127 --> 03:41:48,695
partners they need to purchase

5854
03:41:48,762 --> 03:41:50,797
these residential buildings at

5855
03:41:50,864 --> 03:41:52,932
the speed of the private market

5856
03:41:52,999 --> 03:41:54,601
. These nonprofit developers

5857
03:41:54,668 --> 03:41:56,169
community based organizations

5858
03:41:56,236 --> 03:41:57,537
housing authorities will then

5859
03:41:57,604 --> 03:41:59,439
manage these buildings as deed

5860
03:41:59,506 --> 03:42:01,941
restricted affordable housing

5861
03:42:02,008 --> 03:42:04,577
either rental or homeownership.

5862
03:42:04,644 --> 03:42:06,012
we like to say acquisition

5863
03:42:06,079 --> 03:42:08,982
preservation is a to bird one

5864
03:42:09,049 --> 03:42:09,616
seat approach the program both

5865
03:42:09,683 --> 03:42:10,950
prevents displacement and

5866
03:42:11,017 --> 03:42:12,185
homelessness for residents

5867
03:42:12,252 --> 03:42:13,753
living in these buildings today

5868
03:42:13,820 --> 03:42:15,655
while also growing our supply of

5869
03:42:15,722 --> 03:42:17,691
deed restricted affordable homes

5870
03:42:17,757 --> 03:42:19,726
for decades to come. It is a

5871
03:42:19,793 --> 03:42:21,461
fast and efficient strategy

5872
03:42:21,528 --> 03:42:22,762
would deals closing in months

5873
03:42:22,829 --> 03:42:25,165
rather than years and also often

5874
03:42:25,231 --> 03:42:27,367
has cost efficiency is relative

5875
03:42:27,434 --> 03:42:29,169
to new construction. We hear

5876
03:42:29,235 --> 03:42:30,303
from our local partners

5877
03:42:30,370 --> 03:42:32,305
regularly about the impact of

5878
03:42:32,372 --> 03:42:34,207
their acquisition rehab efforts

5879
03:42:34,274 --> 03:42:35,475
the families were able to stay

5880
03:42:35,542 --> 03:42:36,876
in their communities close to

5881
03:42:36,943 --> 03:42:38,912
jobs and schools. But we also

5882
03:42:38,978 --> 03:42:40,013
hear about the missed

5883
03:42:40,080 --> 03:42:41,548
opportunities the community

5884
03:42:41,614 --> 03:42:43,149
minded landlord for example

5885
03:42:43,216 --> 03:42:44,584
who's approaching retirement and

5886
03:42:44,651 --> 03:42:46,352
wants to ensure the stability of

5887
03:42:46,419 --> 03:42:48,354
their tenants. And sell to a non

5888
03:42:48,421 --> 03:42:50,356
profit organization rather than

5889
03:42:50,423 --> 03:42:52,158
institutional investor. But

5890
03:42:52,225 --> 03:42:53,526
there's not currently a state

5891
03:42:53,593 --> 03:42:56,029
program for these organizations

5892
03:42:56,096 --> 03:42:57,564
to utilize in these instances.

5893
03:42:57,630 --> 03:42:59,833
sb two to five in cap were

5894
03:42:59,899 --> 03:43:01,801
designed to fill this gap and we

5895
03:43:01,868 --> 03:43:02,569
respectfully urge your aye vote

5896
03:43:02,635 --> 03:43:03,970
to support continuing to move

5897
03:43:04,037 --> 03:43:05,839
this bill forward and this

5898
03:43:05,905 --> 03:43:07,507
conversation forward this year

5899
03:43:07,574 --> 03:43:08,675
happy to answer any questions

5900
03:43:08,742 --> 03:43:14,080
thank you. Correct thank you

5901
03:43:14,147 --> 03:43:15,915
chair wiener members of the

5902
03:43:15,982 --> 03:43:17,283
committee my name is amber lee

5903
03:43:17,350 --> 03:43:19,052
leslie I'm a legislative

5904
03:43:19,119 --> 03:43:19,753
advocate with housing

5905
03:43:19,819 --> 03:43:22,422
california. One of the proud co

5906
03:43:22,489 --> 03:43:24,657
sponsors of this bill. Housing

5907
03:43:24,724 --> 03:43:26,192
california we're statewide

5908
03:43:26,259 --> 03:43:27,827
advocacy organization that

5909
03:43:27,894 --> 03:43:29,763
brings together a diverse multi

5910
03:43:29,829 --> 03:43:32,198
sector network to prevent and

5911
03:43:32,265 --> 03:43:33,600
end homelessness increase the

5912
03:43:33,666 --> 03:43:35,769
supply of safe. Stable

5913
03:43:35,835 --> 03:43:37,604
affordable housing options and

5914
03:43:37,670 --> 03:43:40,240
reverse the legacy of racial and

5915
03:43:40,306 --> 03:43:41,775
economic injustice. Published

5916
03:43:41,841 --> 03:43:43,476
our work by building power among

5917
03:43:43,543 --> 03:43:44,577
the people most impacted by the

5918
03:43:44,644 --> 03:43:46,613
housing and justice- and

5919
03:43:46,679 --> 03:43:48,148
advocating for statewide policy

5920
03:43:48,214 --> 03:43:50,617
solutions. So the idea before

5921
03:43:50,683 --> 03:43:52,852
you today the cap program I was

5922
03:43:52,919 --> 03:43:54,888
born from the work of the stable

5923
03:43:54,954 --> 03:43:56,256
homes california coalition of

5924
03:43:56,322 --> 03:43:58,057
which are organizations are part

5925
03:43:58,124 --> 03:43:59,225
in a press community partners

5926
03:43:59,292 --> 03:44:00,960
and housing california. To

5927
03:44:01,027 --> 03:44:02,762
create housing policy solutions

5928
03:44:02,829 --> 03:44:05,064
that responded to the economic

5929
03:44:05,131 --> 03:44:07,400
strains placed upon vulnerable

5930
03:44:07,467 --> 03:44:08,535
communities at the height of the

5931
03:44:08,601 --> 03:44:10,436
pandemic. Since twenty twenty

5932
03:44:10,503 --> 03:44:11,738
our coalition of cap supporters

5933
03:44:11,805 --> 03:44:13,840
has grown to include community

5934
03:44:13,907 --> 03:44:15,341
development corporations.

5935
03:44:15,408 --> 03:44:17,844
community land trusts nonprofit

5936
03:44:17,911 --> 03:44:19,112
housing developers intent

5937
03:44:19,179 --> 03:44:22,048
advocacy groups and so far

5938
03:44:22,115 --> 03:44:23,883
ninety five organizations have

5939
03:44:23,950 --> 03:44:25,652
endorsed the cap program.

5940
03:44:25,718 --> 03:44:27,453
capitalizes a strategy for

5941
03:44:27,520 --> 03:44:28,822
growing california's housing

5942
03:44:28,888 --> 03:44:30,290
stock that was will rise by

5943
03:44:30,356 --> 03:44:32,625
project home key. But cap is

5944
03:44:32,692 --> 03:44:33,860
unique because it provides

5945
03:44:33,927 --> 03:44:35,695
critical resources to protect

5946
03:44:35,762 --> 03:44:37,730
existing housing units without

5947
03:44:37,797 --> 03:44:38,798
long term affordability

5948
03:44:38,865 --> 03:44:40,733
covenants from being lost to the

5949
03:44:40,800 --> 03:44:43,102
speculative housing market- I

5950
03:44:43,169 --> 03:44:45,104
just wanna share a bit of data

5951
03:44:45,171 --> 03:44:46,472
that. Is going to be cut

5952
03:44:46,539 --> 03:44:48,408
forthcoming in a report from-

5953
03:44:48,474 --> 03:44:50,810
one of the state homes coalition

5954
03:44:50,877 --> 03:44:51,878
members a california housing

5955
03:44:51,945 --> 03:44:53,780
partnership. The estimate that

5956
03:44:53,847 --> 03:44:55,748
over a hundred and twenty

5957
03:44:55,815 --> 03:44:56,616
thousand multi family know what

5958
03:44:56,683 --> 03:44:58,585
properties lost affordability in

5959
03:44:58,651 --> 03:45:00,286
just the last two years since we

5960
03:45:00,353 --> 03:45:01,588
as a coalition have been working

5961
03:45:01,654 --> 03:45:03,690
on this policy. And most of

5962
03:45:03,756 --> 03:45:05,458
those have been in southern

5963
03:45:05,525 --> 03:45:06,326
california in the bay area and

5964
03:45:06,392 --> 03:45:07,493
fresno and san diego and also

5965
03:45:07,560 --> 03:45:09,529
here in sacramento. So the

5966
03:45:09,596 --> 03:45:10,997
legislature must continue to

5967
03:45:11,064 --> 03:45:13,032
invest in programs that keep for

5968
03:45:13,099 --> 03:45:15,034
housing- and create more

5969
03:45:15,101 --> 03:45:16,970
housing. A couple keep low

5970
03:45:17,036 --> 03:45:18,004
income californians in their

5971
03:45:18,071 --> 03:45:21,908
homes and increase the supply of

5972
03:45:21,975 --> 03:45:22,709
affordable housing more swiftly

5973
03:45:22,775 --> 03:45:24,544
than the- a is your swiftly and

5974
03:45:24,611 --> 03:45:25,478
effectively than the car. The

5975
03:45:25,545 --> 03:45:27,046
new production therefore we

5976
03:45:27,113 --> 03:45:28,548
respectfully urge I thought

5977
03:45:28,615 --> 03:45:34,954
thank you for indulging at. Five

5978
03:45:35,021 --> 03:45:36,122
march there's the california

5979
03:45:36,189 --> 03:45:37,223
housing partnership in support

5980
03:45:37,290 --> 03:45:39,292
of this innovative approach to

5981
03:45:39,359 --> 03:45:40,393
keep affordable what we already

5982
03:45:40,460 --> 03:45:44,230
have thank you. But the merging

5983
03:45:44,297 --> 03:45:46,032
with an early intercity

5984
03:45:46,099 --> 03:45:47,133
lawcenter stocks for investors

5985
03:45:47,200 --> 03:45:50,303
to do five. So you just. Simply

5986
03:45:50,370 --> 03:45:52,238
because the on behalf of western

5987
03:45:52,305 --> 03:45:54,007
center on law and poverty in

5988
03:45:54,073 --> 03:45:57,076
support. Eddie carmona camping's

5989
03:45:57,143 --> 03:46:00,013
rectorate people california in

5990
03:46:00,079 --> 03:46:01,948
strong support of s. B. Two two

5991
03:46:02,015 --> 03:46:03,816
five. Building report with the

5992
03:46:03,883 --> 03:46:05,585
corporation for supportive

5993
03:46:05,652 --> 03:46:09,055
housing in strong support. Good

5994
03:46:09,122 --> 03:46:10,156
evening turn members on this for

5995
03:46:10,223 --> 03:46:11,391
almost on the of a public

5996
03:46:11,457 --> 03:46:14,193
advocates as co sponsors of sb

5997
03:46:14,260 --> 03:46:15,461
two to five in strong support.

5998
03:46:15,528 --> 03:46:20,133
thank you. Good afternoon. Mr

5999
03:46:20,199 --> 03:46:21,034
chairman members of the

6000
03:46:21,100 --> 03:46:22,135
philadelphia cranks here on

6001
03:46:22,201 --> 03:46:24,304
behalf of silicon valley at home

6002
03:46:24,370 --> 03:46:27,707
action fund in strong support.

6003
03:46:27,774 --> 03:46:28,875
abram deals of the nonprofit

6004
03:46:28,942 --> 03:46:30,009
housing association or the

6005
03:46:30,076 --> 03:46:34,647
californians support. Your

6006
03:46:34,714 --> 03:46:35,581
members michael getting here on

6007
03:46:35,648 --> 03:46:38,484
behalf of us for habitat for

6008
03:46:38,551 --> 03:46:41,754
california and also united way

6009
03:46:41,821 --> 03:46:43,222
of los angeles in support thank

6010
03:46:43,289 --> 03:46:45,124
you. Thank you. Any other-

6011
03:46:45,191 --> 03:46:48,661
support. Okay three nine will

6012
03:46:48,728 --> 03:46:49,195
get opposition we've never

6013
03:46:49,262 --> 03:46:51,597
registered opposition but if

6014
03:46:51,664 --> 03:46:52,665
there is opposition please come

6015
03:46:52,732 --> 03:46:55,268
forward. Okay see now will go to

6016
03:46:55,335 --> 03:46:57,804
the phone lines for the-

6017
03:46:57,870 --> 03:47:00,673
moderator please queue up any

6018
03:47:00,740 --> 03:47:03,209
public comment on the phones.

6019
03:47:03,276 --> 03:47:04,944
your in support or opposition of

6020
03:47:05,011 --> 03:47:08,881
s. P. Two twenty five london

6021
03:47:08,948 --> 03:47:12,618
zero. And we will start with my

6022
03:47:12,685 --> 03:47:18,291
number four oh nine. Service.

6023
03:47:18,358 --> 03:47:22,295
six four nine your line is open

6024
03:47:22,362 --> 03:47:25,565
. Hey we will move to the next

6025
03:47:25,631 --> 03:47:28,835
line of for ten please go ahead

6026
03:47:28,901 --> 03:47:33,740
sir. Senate bill five. The

6027
03:47:33,806 --> 03:47:37,176
simpsons for had. It was

6028
03:47:37,243 --> 03:47:38,144
reverend ray fong number have

6029
03:47:38,211 --> 03:47:40,980
now the grass been just a fully

6030
03:47:41,047 --> 03:47:42,415
yeah behind and fifty or ninety

6031
03:47:42,482 --> 03:47:45,018
chandler. The state of. And

6032
03:47:45,084 --> 03:47:47,553
trump- also I am reading from

6033
03:47:47,620 --> 03:47:50,123
fort frances fox from orange

6034
03:47:50,189 --> 03:47:55,495
county. Yes. Thank you will go

6035
03:47:55,561 --> 03:48:03,102
to law up all for call. My

6036
03:48:03,169 --> 03:48:05,071
number four oh for your line is

6037
03:48:05,138 --> 03:48:11,477
open. Okay we will move to line

6038
03:48:11,544 --> 03:48:14,113
number for all h. Please go

6039
03:48:14,180 --> 03:48:16,916
ahead. Thank you karen members

6040
03:48:16,983 --> 03:48:17,583
dealing dobbins with the

6041
03:48:17,650 --> 03:48:19,485
california coalition for rural

6042
03:48:19,552 --> 03:48:24,991
housing strong support. And we

6043
03:48:25,058 --> 03:48:30,396
have. Four oh nine- committee

6044
03:48:30,463 --> 03:48:31,731
members building with the san

6045
03:48:31,798 --> 03:48:33,066
diego confederations when strong

6046
03:48:33,132 --> 03:48:35,701
supporter that's b. Two two five

6047
03:48:35,768 --> 03:48:37,703
thank you. Thank you and we do

6048
03:48:37,770 --> 03:48:40,606
not have any more in q. Mister

6049
03:48:40,673 --> 03:48:41,174
chair converted back to the

6050
03:48:41,240 --> 03:48:42,608
committee- colleagues any

6051
03:48:42,675 --> 03:48:44,811
questions or comments about this

6052
03:48:44,877 --> 03:48:48,047
bill. Senate race here yes all

6053
03:48:48,114 --> 03:48:50,683
move motion by center books for-

6054
03:48:50,750 --> 03:48:53,820
any else- greased- yes and

6055
03:48:53,886 --> 03:48:55,555
although I just have a question

6056
03:48:55,621 --> 03:49:01,327
so. With this bill- known as

6057
03:49:01,394 --> 03:49:03,229
vehicles here we have a to pass

6058
03:49:03,296 --> 03:49:04,664
on the cost of effective way to

6059
03:49:04,730 --> 03:49:06,132
increase supply of affordable

6060
03:49:06,199 --> 03:49:07,700
homes in california so we're

6061
03:49:07,767 --> 03:49:10,703
doing is we're taking. What

6062
03:49:10,770 --> 03:49:12,939
would be in regular housing.

6063
03:49:13,005 --> 03:49:14,907
homes and placing them in this

6064
03:49:14,974 --> 03:49:16,609
category the becomes affordable

6065
03:49:16,676 --> 03:49:18,511
sustain christmas supply right

6066
03:49:18,578 --> 03:49:23,382
it's just. This is shifting from

6067
03:49:23,449 --> 03:49:24,984
one. One area to another area or

6068
03:49:25,051 --> 03:49:29,522
I can answer- hi it would take

6069
03:49:29,589 --> 03:49:31,290
it out of the speculative

6070
03:49:31,357 --> 03:49:33,826
markets so in other words it is

6071
03:49:33,893 --> 03:49:35,528
housing now and I'm sure all of

6072
03:49:35,595 --> 03:49:37,430
us know of some properties in

6073
03:49:37,497 --> 03:49:39,799
our areas where. For whatever

6074
03:49:39,866 --> 03:49:41,868
reason the owners have kept them

6075
03:49:41,934 --> 03:49:43,936
affordable either there's

6076
03:49:44,003 --> 03:49:46,072
sometimes its absentee owner

6077
03:49:46,139 --> 03:49:47,106
sometimes it's an owner with

6078
03:49:47,173 --> 03:49:49,275
lots of properties and they just

6079
03:49:49,342 --> 03:49:52,612
you know they- have- are. But

6080
03:49:52,678 --> 03:49:55,948
when they sell. Ab it- then is-

6081
03:49:56,015 --> 03:49:57,917
brought up to a market level and

6082
03:49:57,984 --> 03:49:59,352
the people who are living there

6083
03:49:59,418 --> 03:50:01,053
can no longer afford so what

6084
03:50:01,120 --> 03:50:02,822
this would do is create a

6085
03:50:02,889 --> 03:50:04,757
program to help support those

6086
03:50:04,824 --> 03:50:06,459
entities that want to purchase

6087
03:50:06,526 --> 03:50:07,593
these type of properties and

6088
03:50:07,660 --> 03:50:09,562
already in my district we have a

6089
03:50:09,629 --> 03:50:11,531
number of community land trusts

6090
03:50:11,597 --> 03:50:13,499
that have been doing this for

6091
03:50:13,566 --> 03:50:14,534
some time. And so we have a

6092
03:50:14,600 --> 03:50:16,702
number of properties that were

6093
03:50:16,769 --> 03:50:18,104
that are now permanently

6094
03:50:18,171 --> 03:50:20,473
affordable or thirty five year

6095
03:50:20,540 --> 03:50:21,407
you know deed restricted in

6096
03:50:21,474 --> 03:50:23,576
such. That weird then the

6097
03:50:23,643 --> 03:50:25,645
tenants are- you know are able

6098
03:50:25,711 --> 03:50:27,580
to afford it no have confidence

6099
03:50:27,647 --> 03:50:29,248
that they're going to be able to

6100
03:50:29,315 --> 03:50:31,584
afford it for long term. So it's

6101
03:50:31,651 --> 03:50:34,086
yes it is it is not increase

6102
03:50:34,153 --> 03:50:36,889
supply however it keeps certain

6103
03:50:36,956 --> 03:50:39,525
housing that otherwise wouldn't

6104
03:50:39,592 --> 03:50:41,761
be affordable. But their

6105
03:50:41,827 --> 03:50:42,728
portable because we're

6106
03:50:42,795 --> 03:50:45,965
subsidizing not necessarily no.

6107
03:50:46,032 --> 03:50:49,235
it's it- it it's more that we

6108
03:50:49,302 --> 03:50:52,238
are supporting the- those

6109
03:50:52,305 --> 03:50:54,073
entities that want to try to

6110
03:50:54,140 --> 03:50:55,942
purchase this type of program.

6111
03:50:56,008 --> 03:50:58,811
this type of a building there

6112
03:50:58,878 --> 03:51:01,047
might be a- armed. I'm trying to

6113
03:51:01,113 --> 03:51:02,782
understand the concepts it would

6114
03:51:02,848 --> 03:51:05,918
initially help. The so if I'm

6115
03:51:05,985 --> 03:51:08,020
that land trust for example the

6116
03:51:08,087 --> 03:51:09,121
way they can programs

6117
03:51:09,188 --> 03:51:12,425
constructed. That if it succeeds

6118
03:51:12,491 --> 03:51:13,593
in is approved and signed into

6119
03:51:13,659 --> 03:51:15,962
law. That there might be grants

6120
03:51:16,028 --> 03:51:18,731
or loans to that land trusts for

6121
03:51:18,798 --> 03:51:20,433
example or another entity that

6122
03:51:20,499 --> 03:51:22,802
is trying to buy that it's not

6123
03:51:22,868 --> 03:51:23,903
an ongoing subsidy it's not

6124
03:51:23,970 --> 03:51:25,871
something that. Continues to be

6125
03:51:25,938 --> 03:51:28,107
subsidized overtime it's more de

6126
03:51:28,174 --> 03:51:30,876
initial helps and do the initial

6127
03:51:30,943 --> 03:51:32,044
acquisition were the initial

6128
03:51:32,111 --> 03:51:34,714
rehab. So the grants to make it

6129
03:51:34,780 --> 03:51:36,616
so that it becomes affordable it

6130
03:51:36,682 --> 03:51:38,317
may not it it makes it in in

6131
03:51:38,384 --> 03:51:40,253
naples the entities trying to

6132
03:51:40,319 --> 03:51:43,022
purchase it to purchase it or re

6133
03:51:43,089 --> 03:51:44,790
habit. Then the entity itself

6134
03:51:44,857 --> 03:51:49,262
does. The deed restriction it

6135
03:51:49,328 --> 03:51:52,632
keeps affordable. Okay thank you

6136
03:51:52,698 --> 03:51:55,534
. But if. Any other questions or

6137
03:51:55,601 --> 03:51:58,137
comments. Okay see now we have a

6138
03:51:58,204 --> 03:52:00,039
motion by simply experience

6139
03:52:00,106 --> 03:52:01,540
center center you may close- I

6140
03:52:01,607 --> 03:52:03,309
will take the answer in two of

6141
03:52:03,376 --> 03:52:04,277
my description of my own

6142
03:52:04,343 --> 03:52:05,878
experience with such a thing is

6143
03:52:05,945 --> 03:52:08,180
as my clothes on behalf of a

6144
03:52:08,247 --> 03:52:09,915
cinder copyright nasri right

6145
03:52:09,982 --> 03:52:13,953
vote. We will call the roll.

6146
03:52:14,020 --> 03:52:16,289
this is an adult two five or can

6147
03:52:16,355 --> 03:52:17,923
. The motion to pass for the

6148
03:52:17,990 --> 03:52:19,992
committee on the room or and-

6149
03:52:20,059 --> 03:52:22,061
center wiener. Wiener I the

6150
03:52:22,128 --> 03:52:25,197
troubles forty. Six year I

6151
03:52:25,264 --> 03:52:29,068
thanks for camaro courtesy.

6152
03:52:29,135 --> 03:52:34,206
courtesy I mcguire video. Patea

6153
03:52:34,273 --> 03:52:36,909
hi there too skinner by skinner

6154
03:52:36,976 --> 03:52:40,813
hi number five number five of.

6155
03:52:40,880 --> 03:52:44,250
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6156
03:52:44,317 --> 03:52:46,619
call okay we're gonna- we're

6157
03:52:46,686 --> 03:52:48,487
gonna keep things on call them

6158
03:52:48,554 --> 03:52:51,023
an open let's open the now all

6159
03:52:51,090 --> 03:52:53,092
in all bill so the- members can

6160
03:52:53,159 --> 03:52:57,963
leave a seven voted- so we'll

6161
03:52:58,030 --> 03:53:03,169
start. You know. What my

6162
03:53:03,235 --> 03:53:13,446
favorite. Mister okay. Zero to

6163
03:53:13,512 --> 03:53:16,682
lift the call- start with item

6164
03:53:16,749 --> 03:53:19,452
one- s. B. Please call the

6165
03:53:19,518 --> 03:53:25,558
optimum. Senate mcguire video by

6166
03:53:25,624 --> 03:53:31,464
padilla hi skinner. Five skinner

6167
03:53:31,530 --> 03:53:38,504
I number but herbert I. Okay so

6168
03:53:38,571 --> 03:53:40,172
everyone is voter us mcguire

6169
03:53:40,239 --> 03:53:43,275
will not be- will not be here

6170
03:53:43,342 --> 03:53:46,045
so- to the vote when asking for

6171
03:53:46,112 --> 03:53:49,915
is nine one the bill is alex-

6172
03:53:49,982 --> 03:53:52,017
one mexico to number two before

6173
03:53:52,084 --> 03:53:55,921
twenty play call the members.

6174
03:53:55,988 --> 03:53:59,892
senate career mcguire video. But

6175
03:53:59,959 --> 03:54:05,464
the hi number number hi. Okay

6176
03:54:05,531 --> 03:54:07,700
that will put that back on call

6177
03:54:07,767 --> 03:54:09,769
. You please call the office of

6178
03:54:09,835 --> 03:54:12,671
number senate career I ever hi

6179
03:54:12,738 --> 03:54:15,875
my okay sb twenty the vote is

6180
03:54:15,941 --> 03:54:19,178
not to one- that bill is out-

6181
03:54:19,245 --> 03:54:21,347
one extra item numbers to us

6182
03:54:21,414 --> 03:54:22,615
three forty by c. Back please

6183
03:54:22,681 --> 03:54:24,483
call the office members. Senate

6184
03:54:24,550 --> 03:54:37,930
cover. Zero five. Courtesy hi

6185
03:54:37,997 --> 03:54:41,934
mcguire seriously video. Padilla

6186
03:54:42,001 --> 03:54:44,503
hi skinner we to do skinner I

6187
03:54:44,570 --> 03:54:48,974
bob. Do you still have hi this

6188
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6189
03:54:51,911 --> 03:54:57,116
ten seven architect. Okay

6190
03:54:57,183 --> 03:54:59,251
celebrities tend zero as three

6191
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four one our- well now go to

6192
03:55:01,520 --> 03:55:03,222
item for a four fifty so percent

6193
03:55:03,289 --> 03:55:05,658
remains of manager far for call

6194
03:55:05,724 --> 03:55:09,628
the my- senator kabiru. Carol

6195
03:55:09,695 --> 03:55:16,469
courtesy. Hi my- but the video

6196
03:55:16,535 --> 03:55:27,079
hi scan. Hi skinner hi bob.

6197
03:55:27,146 --> 03:55:32,284
the deer hi bob. Bob hi. Zero

6198
03:55:32,351 --> 03:55:34,320
voters tend to zero that bill as

6199
03:55:34,386 --> 03:55:37,590
adults and finally sb six for

6200
03:55:37,656 --> 03:55:40,626
human about item number six sp

6201
03:55:40,693 --> 03:55:42,127
two two five percent- caballero

6202
03:55:42,194 --> 03:55:43,662
please call the absent members

6203
03:55:43,729 --> 03:55:47,266
center coburg tomorrow five zero

6204
03:55:47,333 --> 03:55:56,108
hi mcguire. Air tests. Eight

6205
03:55:56,175 --> 03:55:57,276
zero. If there are other auto

6206
03:55:57,343 --> 03:56:02,014
considered. Okay- voters's in on

6207
03:56:02,081 --> 03:56:07,820
bill is house. Wonderful four

6208
03:56:07,887 --> 03:56:09,822
hours and fifteen minutes not

6209
03:56:09,889 --> 03:56:12,391
too bad- I want to. Thank all

6210
03:56:12,458 --> 03:56:14,026
the members for persevering

6211
03:56:14,093 --> 03:56:15,494
through a lengthy hearing a very

6212
03:56:15,561 --> 03:56:17,997
good discussion if you want to

6213
03:56:18,063 --> 03:56:19,031
thank our staffs- for is always

6214
03:56:19,098 --> 03:56:20,599
doing amazing job in all of the

6215
03:56:20,666 --> 03:56:22,268
supporters and opponents of all

6216
03:56:22,334 --> 03:56:23,502
the bills who came out today

6217
03:56:23,569 --> 03:56:28,374
thank you everyone I'm without-

6218
03:56:28,440 --> 03:56:47,359
this hearing is adjourned.