[0:39] To. Call this hearing to
[0:40] order walking the senate on how
[0:44] - we can to welcome a public and
[0:46] - tested as we as telephone
[0:47] tells for individuals wishing to
[0:50] public comment- remotely today
[0:52] that's number is eight seven
[0:56] seven two two six eight one six
[0:58] three- and the access code is
[1:00] six excuse me. Seven three six
[1:06] two eight three four- your whole
[1:07] there can of course the swing
[1:08] space- I will ask- us to tv are
[1:12] final for all my- to make their
[1:15] way. Down we do not currently
[1:17] have a quorum we need two more
[1:20] for a quorum so will begin as a
[1:21] subcommittee senate's topless
[1:23] quorum when a couple more
[1:25] members ocon we have six bills
[1:28] on today's agenda the first two
[1:30] goals are mine so our vice chair
[1:31] center until a bill will preside
[1:33] over those. Two bills as I
[1:38] present- and we want. We will
[1:41] once we have a car- will adopt a
[1:44] committee rules- but small pass
[1:47] over that for now- so- we will
[1:51] now. Move to our first item all
[1:54] passed gavel to our voice.
[2:09] the. Everything on. The on. Over
[2:20] welcome senator wiener you may
[2:22] press your bill. Okay and
[2:26] minimize your this is a senate
[2:28] bill works yes sorry yes we are
[2:31] - will be reviewing s. B. For.
[2:33] the senate wiener. Thank you
[2:36] very much my to my her-
[2:38] colleagues are senate bill- will
[2:41] our and non call. To you their
[2:44] and- to- 1100% of housing- it
[2:49] will address owning and also the
[2:52] - so that we can to- do new
[2:54] homes- we have- a lot of work
[2:58] and research years to try to
[3:00] address. Severe housing shortage
[3:02] where she million of home- and
[3:03] we know that probably so around
[3:04] house that short is our homes
[3:08] are hello market rate which is
[3:10] what this bill- addresses. We
[3:13] know that our churches
[3:15] synagogues mosques and other
[3:17] religious institutions as well
[3:19] as nonprofit colleges have a lot
[3:22] of lands and often they have way
[3:24] more land than they need whether
[3:26] it's a church or synagogue that
[3:28] has a parking lot that's three
[3:29] times as big as what their
[3:31] congregation needs warts are
[3:33] simply have land that they're
[3:34] not. Using and we know the date-
[3:37] often want to build housing to
[3:40] promote their mission to provide
[3:42] housing. For people however due
[3:44] to zoning restrictions and
[3:46] approval- limitations are there
[3:49] sometimes it's- difficult or
[3:52] often impossible. For them to do
[3:56] so we know that- from- analysis
[3:58] a few years ago from the turner
[4:00] center which is being updated as
[4:02] we speak. Looking at only the
[4:04] largest counties in california
[4:05] so not even all the counties a
[4:07] small subset of the counties
[4:08] said in a fight- I believe-
[4:12] thirty eight thousand acres are
[4:13] potentially a potential plans.
[4:16] for affordable housing if you
[4:18] take the whole state and god in
[4:19] the nonprofit colleges it's a
[4:21] lot more. This will be a game
[4:23] changer. For the construction of
[4:29] . 101% of portable housing- open
[4:35] up tens of acres of land. That
[4:37] will be affected prioritize-
[4:39] builders particular non does the
[4:41] bill that bill a hundred for
[4:43] housing they won't have to can.
[4:44] with the market rate developers
[4:45] which is often a barrier in
[4:47] terms of accessing. Land bill is
[4:52] - we hi first the in twenty
[4:55] twenty a it passed the senate
[4:57] thirty nine to nothing- I was
[5:00] very proud of that broad bi
[5:02] partisan support for this bill-
[5:04] among members because we know
[5:05] there are members in both
[5:07] parties who have. A lot of
[5:08] different pages on housing it
[5:10] really was a unifying. Bill we
[5:12] did a lot of work in this
[5:13] committee and also in the
[5:14] governance and finance committee
[5:16] that you're on the bill to try
[5:18] to really respect the local
[5:19] context in terms of neighborhood
[5:22] issues- and we've honored all of
[5:24] those agreements- from twenty
[5:26] twenty. We have a massive
[5:27] coalition- behind this bill of
[5:30] affordable housing advocates
[5:31] faith based. Organizations and
[5:34] advocates- are labor unions-
[5:36] business organizations I'm very
[5:39] proud of this broad coalition
[5:41] and I respectfully ask your aye
[5:43] vote. With me today to testify
[5:45] and I know will probably
[5:46] established. Moments but with me
[5:49] today to tell. Is tied from the
[5:52] - the direct policy of an-
[5:54] housing is. Of northern cal. And
[5:56] l. From congress but nay is. In
[6:00] soccer. Class so- matter chair-
[6:04] I assume of stop form. As of
[6:13] fact yes- we are we are. Able to
[6:17] senate you're might be off.
[6:19] donald don. And we do have a- we
[6:24] do have a members now to able to
[6:25] see a so we're gonna ahead move
[6:28] forward on that- senate leader.
[6:33] president wiener present a- for.
[6:36] a troubled present like spear
[6:38] president bush for president
[6:40] carrero. Several presence
[6:43] cortese mcguire. Videa seyarto.
[6:51] there to present skin. Number
[6:53] yeah number present bob. Harper
[6:58] .
[7:01] we'd like to first adopt the
[7:03] committee rules for twenty
[7:06] twenty three and twenty twenty
[7:06] fourth legislative session
[7:08] without objection I'm sorry. Gen
[7:12] is there any objection adopting
[7:13] the rules. C. Nine seven two-
[7:20] really just the result. Without
[7:22] objection they are currently
[7:23] atop thank you. Thank you madam
[7:25] vice chair no to our witnesses.
[7:29] thank you chair and committee
[7:31] member- test finds the of senate
[7:32] for on behalf and housing this
[7:34] or california unease abram d. As
[7:36] in on the policy director from
[7:37] ph. M. Ph represent around seven
[7:40] hundred and fifty affordable
[7:41] housing builders advocates and
[7:42] community leaders working to
[7:44] support the creation and
[7:45] preservation of affordable homes
[7:46] across california. As we all
[7:48] know the shortage of housing has
[7:51] created a desperate crisis first
[7:52] stay in california's families
[7:53] last year the california
[7:54] department of housing and
[7:55] community development released a
[7:56] report enumerated in our
[7:57] challenge we need to build at
[7:59] least one million affordable
[8:01] units over the next eight to ten
[8:03] years. Has large property
[8:03] holders faith based institutions
[8:05] and private colleges are an
[8:06] important position help us meet
[8:07] this need as previously stated
[8:09] there tens of thousands of acres
[8:11] that are possible for us to use
[8:13] to build affordable housing many
[8:15] in very higher particularly
[8:16] areas. These organizations as
[8:18] long standing community anchors
[8:19] which to lead in addressing our
[8:20] housing and homeless crisis our
[8:22] faith partner see this as an
[8:23] extension of not only their
[8:25] mission but also their moral
[8:27] calling. The problem we're
[8:27] trying to solve is that while
[8:29] many these institutions are
[8:30] ready to build and support
[8:32] affordable housing the current
[8:32] zoning prevents it our partners
[8:34] you can take a year at the
[8:36] minimum and we're typically
[8:37] several years to all these
[8:38] projects to move forward. That
[8:39] kind of delay can cost us
[8:40] hundreds of thousands of dollars
[8:42] on these units and discourages
[8:43] and prevents us from building
[8:45] homes for low income families
[8:45] and working families. This bill
[8:47] insure that we apply reasonable
[8:48] streamlining principles that are
[8:50] religious communities can't open
[8:51] their doors to californians in
[8:52] need. We ballots approach by
[8:54] including strong labor
[8:55] requirements and worker
[8:56] protections as well. As you can
[8:58] see the analysis the bill has
[8:59] support for about a hundred and
[9:01] eighty groups from across the
[9:02] state. Including labor equity
[9:03] housing groups faith groups.
[9:05] offer muslim jewish and
[9:07] christian communities as well.
[9:08] well collectively- just support
[9:09] and I'm happy to help. Answer
[9:15] questions as needed thank you.
[9:16] thank you madam chair and
[9:16] committee members and thank you
[9:18] senator wiener for authoring
[9:19] this important legislation. And
[9:21] thank you to jake pet cat pack
[9:23] and all of the co sponsors of
[9:25] this bill for championing this
[9:26] effort on behalf of california
[9:28] communities of faith. My name is
[9:29] rabbi mona alfi and the senior
[9:30] rabbi at congregation b'nai.
[9:32] israel you're in sacramento
[9:33] sacramento's largest synagogue.
[9:35] and the oldest synagogue in the
[9:37] state of california. The most
[9:38] repeated commandment in the
[9:40] torah is love your neighbor as
[9:41] yourself. For you were slaves in
[9:44] the land of egypt. Cities across
[9:46] california are facing a housing
[9:47] crisis housing and homelessness
[9:49] crisis and we're seeing our
[9:50] neighbors live in the streets.
[9:52] in astounding numbers. Driven by
[9:54] our jewish values in our own
[9:56] history of oppression countless
[9:58] synagogues are eager to address
[9:59] our homeless crisis homelessness
[10:01] crisis. And support our
[10:02] neighbors that are most in need.
[10:04] and we know that our friends in
[10:05] the muslim christian and other
[10:07] faith communities share the same
[10:08] important values. Faith
[10:10] communities are some of the
[10:11] state's leading organizers of
[10:13] volunteering charity efforts to
[10:14] help our neighbors experiencing
[10:17] homelessness. But food your
[10:18] donation drives temporary
[10:20] shelter options and similar
[10:21] campaigns are largely bandaid
[10:23] solutions. Just yesterday the
[10:25] sacramento bee reported a third
[10:27] death this winter due to the- to
[10:29] weather. Inclement weather for
[10:31] people who are homeless. The
[10:32] jewish sage maimonides has a
[10:34] famous teaching about the latter
[10:35] of giving charity. Where the
[10:37] highest rung the most impactful
[10:39] way you can give is to help
[10:41] someone succeed themselves. In
[10:43] fact this lesson is sometimes
[10:44] credited as inspiration for the
[10:46] proverb about teaching a man to
[10:48] fish. Our community is
[10:50] desperately want to create
[10:52] permanent solutions for those
[10:53] experiencing poverty hunger
[10:55] housing insecurity and
[10:56] homelessness. And we we're ready
[10:58] with a quip for it synagogues
[11:00] and other faith institutions own
[11:02] large properties all over the
[11:03] state's many in communities
[11:05] where portable housing is
[11:06] desperately needed. And many
[11:08] with lan to spare. But we need
[11:10] to pass this bill to remove the
[11:12] red tape and prohibitive.
[11:16] processes that make it hard to
[11:17] build a portable housing. For
[11:18] some pay institution this op.
[11:19] could be their lifeline
[11:21] providing revenue that can
[11:22] stabilize their organization's
[11:23] finances. This bill is a
[11:26] creative solution to address the
[11:28] critical issue of our time. And
[11:30] gives it if communities of faith
[11:32] important opportunity to form a
[11:33] real minutes for. A kind and
[11:35] loving deed for our neighbors
[11:37] thank you for your consideration
[11:41] . Thank you very much. Never
[11:45] will now move on to. Which lead
[11:47] witnesses. In support here in
[11:51] room twelve hundred. Do we have
[11:56] any witnesses in support of sb
[11:58] four here in room twelve hundred
[12:00] here they come. Sign up right
[12:03] here. You can. Madam chairman
[12:06] still the s. Shot here on behalf
[12:08] of the of santa monica and
[12:10] strong support thank you. Good
[12:13] afternoon man turn numbers
[12:13] caroling about the city and
[12:15] county of san francisco in
[12:16] support. Good afternoon my name
[12:19] is simply customer policy
[12:20] advocate for western center on
[12:22] law and poverty we have a
[12:23] support if amended position and
[12:25] look forward to conversations to
[12:26] ensure that the projects are
[12:28] located on toxic land thank you
[12:31] - brings up a map of lighthouse
[12:32] public affairs and our clients.
[12:33] spur and habitat for humanity
[12:36] and support. And you have
[12:39] renters city lawcenter skidrow
[12:40] nonprofit. Pro bono law firm we
[12:43] are excited to sponsor and
[12:45] support this bill. Scissor
[12:49] rodriguez proud member of
[12:50] carpenters local one fifty two I
[12:53] reside in stockton california
[12:54] selma king county I stand it
[12:56] support with my brothers and
[12:57] sisters today and for s. B. Four
[13:01] we need housing now thank you.
[13:04] good afternoon I'm the reverend
[13:06] dr mary craves a presbyterian
[13:08] pastor from redwood city and
[13:10] because I know of an increasing
[13:12] number of churches that have
[13:14] both the property and the
[13:15] passion. To provide affordable
[13:17] housing- here to support as
[13:20] before. Good afternoon my name's
[13:24] called swarms I'm a resident of
[13:26] sacramental a member of local
[13:28] forty six an inmate here here in
[13:30] favor of us sb four thank you.
[13:35] my name's robin dr penny nixon
[13:37] from the county of san matteo
[13:39] codirector the peninsula
[13:40] solidarity cohort and right now
[13:42] I'm working with five churches
[13:43] who desperately desire to build
[13:46] affordable housing on their land
[13:50] . My name is reverend dr marlon
[13:52] bessie I pastor in san mateo
[13:54] california and I'm the co
[13:55] director of the peninsula
[13:56] solidarity cohort my church is
[13:59] one of the ones. That is
[14:00] actively trying to build
[14:03] affordable housing in san mateo
[14:05] fired your support press before
[14:07] thank you. Hey my name is almost
[14:12] not- I am currently in east bay
[14:14] umb lead volunteer I'm
[14:16] originally based in oakland park
[14:18] is the- originally based in
[14:19] modesto california central
[14:20] valley currently in oakland
[14:21] right now I'm here. And support
[14:23] on behalf of espn bees and also
[14:25] myself for sb four- thank you
[14:29] and state- good afternoon my
[14:33] name is doctor tervis page
[14:35] aminopterin universalist
[14:36] minister in san mateo and also
[14:38] with the peninsula saudi energy
[14:39] cohort to. Be here to show my
[14:42] support. My name is krista
[14:46] hansen I am a member of
[14:48] peninsula solidarity cohort and
[14:50] of the congregational church is
[14:51] san matteo and we very very much
[14:54] want this bill to pass. I could
[14:59] afternoon lewis monday with bury
[15:01] council we represent about three
[15:02] hundred and thirty of the bay
[15:04] area's largest employers and I
[15:06] think housing is the number one
[15:08] issue for our region to solve-
[15:09] we're here in strong support of
[15:12] s. Before today thank you. My
[15:15] name is dick and lauren mccomb's
[15:17] I am a deacon in the episcopal
[15:19] church I'm a member of peninsula
[15:21] solidarity cohort and also faith
[15:23] in action bay area it's time. To
[15:26] support housing in our area I
[15:31] support s. Before thank you for
[15:32] your time. Madam chair scott
[15:35] governor behalf the construction
[15:38] employers association in support
[15:41] . Madam chairman is pastor
[15:44] curtis smith of the pastors
[15:45] destiny christian center
[15:47] stockton california. Also
[15:48] director for faith in the valley
[15:51] and I'm here in strong support
[15:54] of its before. Good afternoon
[15:58] madam chair and committee
[15:59] members my name's maria coronado
[16:01] with selfless mountain states
[16:01] carpenters proud member of local
[16:05] three two three and we support
[16:06] as before thank you. Good
[16:09] afternoon my name's alex are
[16:11] calling a policy manager at mid
[16:13] penn housing affordable housing
[16:14] developer and we stand in strong
[16:16] support of this before. Good
[16:21] afternoon mainly maintenance for
[16:22] the southwest regional mountain
[16:24] states mountain states regional
[16:26] council of carpenters and member
[16:28] of local etal five we're in
[16:30] strong support of. His before
[16:32] thank you. Good afternoon my
[16:36] name is at the ventura I'm a
[16:38] represented with the southwest
[16:40] mountain states regional council
[16:41] of carpenters representing
[16:42] ventura santa barbara san luis
[16:44] obispo county we strongly
[16:45] support this before thank you.
[16:50] madam chair members of the
[16:51] committee jordan plan a kind of
[16:53] a hard on behalf of californian
[16:55] be instructs report thank you.
[17:00] hello my name is sam the
[17:01] director of mission housing
[17:02] development corporation in san
[17:04] francisco on affordable housing
[17:05] provider I'm here today on
[17:06] behalf of mission mercy housing
[17:08] tenderloin housing clinic in the
[17:10] john store company as well as
[17:12] bridge housing and we are here
[17:14] in strong support of this before
[17:16] thank you. Hi glorified
[17:20] executive director of the in the
[17:21] action and on behalf of our
[17:23] three thousand members across
[17:24] california in strong support.
[17:28] I'm lisa moss and I'm a member
[17:30] of san francisco u. M. B. And I
[17:32] am very strong support events
[17:34] before. Good afternoon sure
[17:38] numbers jordan crimes on behalf
[17:40] of environmental nonprofit green
[17:42] built alliance here in strong
[17:43] support of this before thank you
[17:47] . Hello my name is a totally is
[17:49] carper's local twenty to thirty
[17:51] six out of oakland and I'm a
[17:53] strong supporter of this before
[17:55] thank you. Good afternoon
[17:58] everybody my name somebody. On
[18:00] behalf of nor cal carpenters
[18:02] union in strong support. Rauner
[18:06] let solano county resident
[18:08] carpenters local one eighty nor
[18:11] cal carpenters in strong support
[18:14] . Hi my name's ira kaplan I'm a
[18:17] member of san francisco again be
[18:19] I'm here in strong support of
[18:21] this before thank you. Hello
[18:25] everyone matthew miller norco
[18:26] carpenters I'm a member of
[18:27] carpenters are troubled others
[18:29] local ninety sixty eight in
[18:31] livermore in strong support. And
[18:33] we need housing in the peninsula
[18:34] badly. Afternoon everyone- zac
[18:40] bowling- volunteer lead with
[18:41] east bay m. B. I'm here in
[18:43] strong support for us before
[18:45] thank you. Good afternoon alleys
[18:49] a permit on behalf of the
[18:50] housing action coalition and
[18:51] enthusiastic support but I'm
[18:53] also here because I've been
[18:54] housing insecure my entire life
[18:57] and we need solutions now thank
[18:59] you. Good afternoon my name is
[19:02] ralph sonnenfeld I'm with you
[19:04] can be action and I'm here on
[19:05] behalf of chapters and partners
[19:08] espn be grow the richmond
[19:10] mountain view yimby napa solano
[19:12] for everyone northern neighbors
[19:13] peninsula for everyone progress
[19:15] no we valley san francisco emb
[19:18] santa cruz in b. Santa rosa can
[19:19] be slow cøng. B. South bay m. B.
[19:22] sell side ford urban
[19:23] environments manelis and people
[19:27] for housing orange county thank
[19:29] you. Right okay now red and here
[19:32] on behalf of how to eighty you
[19:34] in the twenty thousand
[19:34] homeowners in our community in
[19:35] strong support of us before. Hi
[19:39] susan setter homes san francisco
[19:41] emb member I live in support of
[19:44] housing and I'm grateful and I
[19:45] want more people. To have the
[19:48] same opportunities. Hello alex
[19:53] nylander as I work in the action
[19:54] I'm also a member of peninsula
[19:57] for everyone in strong support
[19:58] of s. Before. Hi I am just in
[20:02] markets with enterprise
[20:03] community partners for a
[20:05] national affordable housing
[20:06] nonprofit and on behalf of our
[20:07] san francisco la and stockton
[20:09] offices were here in strong
[20:11] support thank you. Good
[20:15] afternoon that the legacy of
[20:16] kings here on behalf of all home
[20:18] and sb silicon valley action fan
[20:22] . Afternoon pass today picture
[20:25] embrace church an organizer with
[20:28] faith in the valley in strong
[20:30] support of s. Before we need
[20:33] housing now. Good afternoon my
[20:38] name's courtney pal and with
[20:40] resources for community
[20:40] development or and nonprofit
[20:42] housing developer in support of
[20:44] us before. Good afternoon cassie
[20:48] manzini on behalf of the
[20:49] california school employees
[20:51] association and strong support.
[20:56] afternoon madam chair edward
[20:57] evans carpenters local two
[20:59] seventeen nor cal carpenters in
[21:01] strong support of as before.
[21:05] what estado minimalist ideas and
[21:06] diesel so to present them that
[21:08] on in the coming in oakland on
[21:10] it will invite him but yeah.
[21:12] this district a took up a spot
[21:14] low day civic what through but
[21:18] go out today and bass will he's
[21:20] up to go up you know start how
[21:22] it is good even extortion.
[21:25] because a little slim people
[21:27] okay I'm a the correct to put up
[21:28] with kettle as he critical
[21:31] complete to stop does he. Good
[21:41] madam chair to doug excel
[21:42] because states count carp rep
[21:44] locals one nine sandia impair
[21:46] county where strong support for
[21:47] us beef thank. Thank mister
[21:51] chair cliff here on behalf of
[21:53] shape the g. Public affairs.
[21:55] representing over major or- cal
[21:56] from c. Diego northern cal
[21:58] please vehicle sponsor of before
[22:03] . After d'amico carpenter locals
[22:06] fifty one says no we can in
[22:07] strong support sb. Muncher my
[22:12] name is cheryl mccurry I'm
[22:14] fitter center for kerr look
[22:16] twenty two surfaced. Nor caucus
[22:17] union and for thank you. Good
[22:22] afternoon my name is martinez
[22:24] but I was a proud member of the
[22:25] carpenters union is strong
[22:27] support for s. Before. They have
[22:31] to do my name isn't on when you
[22:33] also nor cal carpenters local
[22:35] seven thirteen out of hayward in
[22:36] strong support of this before.
[22:38] bring a white with the
[22:40] california housing consortium in
[22:41] support. Good afternoon rebekah
[22:45] markets on behalf of leading h.
[22:48] california in support. Good
[22:51] afternoon jason martinez from
[22:53] the carpenters local seven one
[22:55] out of fresno masalah proud
[22:56] military veterans- in support.
[23:02] good afternoon travis alexander
[23:03] nor cal carpenters union in
[23:05] fresno county resident here in
[23:06] strong support of this before.
[23:10] good afternoon this is my final
[23:12] comment is local eighty nine
[23:13] solano county in strong support
[23:16] of his before thanks. Hi melanie
[23:19] how wine truppe I'm here
[23:20] representing temple isaiah in
[23:22] contra costa county and hopes
[23:25] solutions which is a- home
[23:28] provider in contra costa. In
[23:33] support of us before. Hi can
[23:37] warn with the multi faith action
[23:39] coalition shelter and housing
[23:40] task force in contra costa
[23:42] county in strong support of this
[23:44] before. Hello scott little hill
[23:48] resident of richmond california
[23:49] proud member of nor cal
[23:51] carpenters local union one five
[23:53] two and contra costa counties
[23:55] strong support best before. Find
[23:59] douglas leach I would like to
[24:02] I'm a member of the multi faith
[24:03] action coalition and would like
[24:05] to also- on behalf of this
[24:09] social justice alliance of the
[24:11] interfaith council of contra
[24:13] costa county register. Of that
[24:15] both organizations strong
[24:17] supporter best before. Good
[24:21] afternoon my name is jesse
[24:22] problems proud member of the nor
[24:24] cal carpenters union and
[24:26] president seven thirteen
[24:26] representing alameda county and
[24:28] we're strong support of this
[24:29] before thank you. Good afternoon
[24:33] everyone I local seven thirteen
[24:36] I support as before thank you.
[24:37] thanks for. Good afternoon
[24:40] daniel greg member nor cal
[24:41] carpenters union local twenty
[24:43] thirty six in oakland strong
[24:45] support sb four thank you. Good
[24:48] afternoon dan cal mucci
[24:50] carpenters local twenty two in
[24:51] san francisco here in strong
[24:54] support of s. Before. Good
[24:57] afternoon my name is juan
[24:58] espinoza I'm a proud member of
[24:59] nor call carpenters union local
[25:02] two seventeen in some auto
[25:02] county. And I'm here in support
[25:06] of- is before thank you for. Hi
[25:11] david on behalf of the budget
[25:12] san francisco standing with our
[25:13] partners in the carpenters union
[25:15] in strong support. Good
[25:19] afternoon my name is doug
[25:20] chesshyre I'm a proud member of
[25:22] carpenters local six oh five
[25:24] monterey county here in strong
[25:26] support of this before. Good
[25:31] afternoon my name is laura
[25:32] drastic I'm a proud member of
[25:34] the nor cal carpenters local
[25:36] four oh five san jose california
[25:39] and I'm in strong support of s.
[25:40] before. My name is a cable I am
[25:46] a resident of pleasanton which
[25:48] is a little town in alameda
[25:49] county. Animal the union rep
[25:51] with the carpenters and I'm in
[25:54] support for this bill thank you
[25:58] . Hello my name is francisco
[25:59] martinez someone up county
[26:01] resident and on the field with
[26:03] with a local carpenter saw local
[26:05] twenty to twenty six and I'm in
[26:07] support of flies before. My
[26:11] number is move several places
[26:13] that keep it up we are let you
[26:15] civic what through. It the
[26:16] missouri booted off their queue
[26:17] the little because the window
[26:19] units on with the for. I use
[26:22] that as a us out as the- hosting
[26:28] is the person noted the rest.
[26:30] merrill lynch health so of local
[26:32] house finance agency in strong
[26:34] support of s. B. For. Good
[26:37] afternoon my name is luke
[26:39] brattan mot proud member the nor
[26:40] cal carpenters union in support
[26:41] of. This before thank you. Hi I
[26:47] am karen sandel yak co founder
[26:49] from foundation community
[26:51] housing and support thanks. Hi I
[26:53] am brian leahy I'm part of a a.
[26:56] r. P.'s response team and are
[26:58] three point two million members
[27:00] we're strong support of s. S.
[27:01] before. Mark stivers for the
[27:06] california housing partnership
[27:06] in strong support. Madam chair
[27:10] members good afternoon james
[27:11] director of the california state
[27:13] council labor's part being
[27:14] support. Twenty with the a
[27:18] california apartment
[27:19] association's from support
[27:20] thanks. April atkins proud
[27:24] member of local twenty two san
[27:26] francisco strong support thank
[27:27] you for allowing me to speak.
[27:31] good afternoon j. Bratcher
[27:33] executive officer nor cal
[27:34] carpenters union on behalf her
[27:35] thirties over thirty six
[27:37] thousand hard working men and
[27:38] women out in the field in twenty
[27:41] two local unions we strongly
[27:42] support as before thank you.
[27:45] good afternoon my name is one
[27:47] barbosa and I'm representing-
[27:49] local coverage local five zero
[27:51] five in santa cruz california-
[27:53] in strong support of as before.
[27:57] canister from ninety one forty
[28:00] four in san jose I strongly
[28:01] support as before. Once the
[28:07] containers travel a lot as
[28:08] livermore california sport is
[28:10] before. Foundries from local
[28:16] fifty nine nine redding
[28:17] california I strongly support as
[28:18] before. My name's chris martinez
[28:23] local fifty nine nine redding
[28:26] california and I strongly
[28:27] support. My name is jerry chan
[28:31] tapia from local forty six
[28:33] sacramento and I strongly
[28:34] support its before. My name's
[28:39] dave on adelina twenty five year
[28:41] member of laughter sixty eight
[28:43] out of oakland I support
[28:45] commonsense legislation like
[28:46] this before. Because out of san
[28:50] jose local four five carpenters
[28:52] and support the sb. Four regally
[28:57] out a little ninety one forty
[29:00] four out of san jose california
[29:02] I truly support as before. A
[29:05] little three local ninety one
[29:07] forty four exuberance before.
[29:11] gonzalez carpenters union local
[29:15] forty six a member- a member of
[29:16] the original sacramento sorry
[29:20] supporters before. But a reserve
[29:23] announces local twenty two
[29:25] carpenters I supporters before.
[29:31] capitalize a local twenty to
[29:34] thirty six in strong support of
[29:36] s. B. For. Hello- matt was
[29:39] embarrassed as here you
[29:40] californians support. Good
[29:44] afternoon precor chapter
[29:45] director of community organizing
[29:46] andy kerr a jewish faith
[29:48] community in los angeles also a
[29:50] member of la voice and we
[29:52] support with amendments thanks.
[29:55] the river zachary hoover
[29:56] executive director of la voice
[29:57] speaking on behalf of our sixty
[29:59] member congregations also part
[30:00] of peak of california we have a
[30:02] dozen congregations interested
[30:03] in doing this but face daunting
[30:04] challenges and we support with
[30:07] immense. Carmona director of
[30:11] campaigns for people california
[30:12] will support with the max. Ryan
[30:18] chilcote corporate reached
[30:20] support as before. Perfect thank
[30:28] you. To have any other witnesses
[30:31] in support. Thank you. For all
[30:45] take that is it in support yes.
[30:48] thank you very much sir will now
[30:50] move on to live lead witnesses
[30:51] in opposition here in twelve
[30:55] hundred room to offer under we
[30:56] have any. Witnesses in
[30:57] opposition.
[31:12] please proceed thank you thank
[31:13] you so much good afternoon madam
[31:15] vice chair members but really
[31:17] you on behalf the state building
[31:18] construction trades council
[31:20] california representing a
[31:21] million half a million members
[31:22] statewide with an oppose unless
[31:24] amended position on us before.
[31:26] specifically we urge the
[31:28] committee to include a skilled
[31:29] and trained workforce
[31:30] requirement for residential
[31:32] construction under the bill
[31:33] instead of the eighty mile of
[31:35] the standard from last year. The
[31:37] current language is legally
[31:38] problematic has not even going
[31:40] to affect yet allows developers
[31:42] you license unenforceable
[31:43] healthcare requirement that's
[31:44] likely preempted under the
[31:46] federal employee retirement
[31:47] income security act of nineteen
[31:49] seventy four. This fatal
[31:51] preemption problem is
[31:52] highlighted in the text of the
[31:53] bill and it's severability
[31:55] clause provisions the bill also
[31:57] includes a superficial
[31:58] apprenticeship requirement
[31:59] that's really nothing more than
[32:03] just a paperwork exercise. Any
[32:04] streamlining bill worker
[32:05] protections stand listing both
[32:06] prevailing wage coverage and
[32:08] skilled and trained workforce
[32:10] requirements. Goldentree
[32:11] provisions require percentage of
[32:12] workers on the project the
[32:14] graduates of a state approved
[32:15] apprenticeship programs without
[32:17] this requirement the bill
[32:18] creates two tiers of labor
[32:20] standards that result and
[32:21] residential workers having fewer
[32:23] protections than those other
[32:26] sectors of construction. Barring
[32:27] the use of skilled and trained
[32:28] workers on the job site is how
[32:30] the state can best capture the
[32:32] productivity benefits a
[32:32] prevailing wage. This ensures
[32:34] that workplace safety and
[32:35] ultimately the health and safety
[32:37] of people living in these homes.
[32:39] stay approved union
[32:40] apprenticeship programs for the
[32:42] state's critical pipeline to the
[32:43] substantial drops. In the
[32:45] building trades union members
[32:46] here stick with the construction
[32:48] long term increasing their
[32:49] lifetime earnings and feeling
[32:53] healthy economies. The fire
[32:55] moved for me tech- economy the
[32:58] world still needs to be
[32:59] physically built. We strongly
[33:00] support gay affordable housing
[33:02] bills but is short sighted to
[33:04] miss an opportunity to invest in
[33:06] and promote a strong pipeline
[33:08] for highly skilled and trained
[33:09] workforce that would be
[33:11] critical. To meeting the housing
[33:13] production needed today and in
[33:14] the future. Opponents of skilled
[33:16] entry provisions are completing
[33:17] the total number of housing
[33:19] units needed to be built. To the
[33:21] small number of housing projects
[33:23] shovel ready today to fabricate
[33:25] a worker shortage. I want to
[33:27] reiterate there is no worker
[33:31] shortage here in california.
[33:32] instead of focusing on labor
[33:33] standards for small segment.
[33:35] three we believe labor standards
[33:36] should be expanded to a much
[33:38] broader segment of the ford will
[33:40] housing industry. We urge you to
[33:42] vote no or commit to withholding
[33:44] your bill on the floor and
[33:45] working with us to ensure these
[33:47] important amendments are
[33:48] included before the bill passes
[33:51] off the floor. Thank you very
[33:52] much. Jennifer second half the
[33:58] california association of
[33:59] realtors we have an oppose
[34:00] unless amended position
[34:01] currently we're very optimistic
[34:03] that in the end will be able to
[34:05] resolve our concerns with the
[34:06] author. Primarily among a
[34:07] variety of technical moments
[34:09] that we are working on with the
[34:10] senator we're concerned about
[34:11] the term ancillary uses within a
[34:13] single family neighborhood. The
[34:16] broad. Use of ancillary could
[34:19] result in something like a dry
[34:20] cleaner or some kind of service
[34:22] shop located that could provide
[34:23] a beneficial use. To the
[34:25] community that the project is
[34:26] built in what we're looking to
[34:29] do is simply clarified that the
[34:30] commercial uses within that
[34:31] residential single family
[34:32] neighborhood would only include
[34:33] child care facilities. And
[34:35] community centers as defined by
[34:37] hud thank you. Madam chair
[34:43] members got which on behalf of
[34:45] the more than two hundred
[34:46] thousand members of the state
[34:47] association of electrical
[34:49] workers. The california state
[34:50] pipe trades council. The western
[34:52] sit western states council sheet
[34:54] metal workers. The california
[34:56] coalition of utility employees
[34:58] and the elevator constructors
[34:59] union. You can support housing
[35:02] without stripping worker
[35:03] protections that are in the law
[35:05] today in collective bargaining
[35:08] we call that a take back. This
[35:10] bill is a take back it should be
[35:14] voted down thank you. The other
[35:18] couple killed three other
[35:20] position. He to sit afternoon my
[35:23] name is mark I work for this
[35:25] building trades and an
[35:26] oppositional amended. Thank you
[35:30] . Okay let me just clarify that
[35:31] ray now remove on to. Opposition
[35:33] witnesses from top. Mitchell
[35:37] bechtel with the discounts of
[35:38] iron workers were oppose unless
[35:39] amended thank you. Hello my name
[35:45] is like a steel I'm with the
[35:46] ibew local eleven of los angeles
[35:48] representing almost twelve
[35:51] thousand members and we oppose
[35:52] as before. Hello my name is an
[35:56] estimate on all representing the
[35:57] los angeles and orange county's
[35:59] building and construction trades
[36:00] council represent all over a
[36:03] hundred forty thousand hard
[36:03] working men and women the
[36:04] construction sector. Forty eight
[36:05] affiliates and I urge a- no
[36:08] support for senate bill for less
[36:10] as troopers of standards and to
[36:12] labor standards thank you.
[36:15] raymond davis president of iron
[36:17] workers local one eighteen here
[36:18] in sacramento I- stand with the
[36:20] building trades and oppose this
[36:22] bill unless amended. Good
[36:27] afternoon ladies and gentlemen
[36:29] the council my name is ken
[36:30] miller business asian organizer
[36:31] for ironworkers local three
[36:33] seventy eight and I stand in
[36:34] solidarity with the state
[36:35] building trades to oppose unless
[36:37] amended thank you. Good
[36:42] afternoon choi aren't so with
[36:44] our workers local one eighteen
[36:45] out of sacramento and I also
[36:47] stand with the state building
[36:48] trades an oppose unless amended
[36:49] thank you. Good afternoon my
[36:57] name is maggie and I'm the
[36:58] business manager for a local
[37:00] union two to eight plumbers and
[37:00] pipefitters a merry still
[37:01] california and I stand with the
[37:03] california state pipe trades in
[37:05] the building trades an oppose
[37:07] unless amended. Perfect do we
[37:12] have any other witnesses in
[37:14] opposition test before here in
[37:16] room. Twelve hundred. Seeing
[37:20] none thank you well now because
[37:24] there is one more okay. I
[37:31] apologize for my tardiness I am-
[37:33] john hershey with bombs and
[37:35] pipefitters local four four
[37:36] seven in sacramento county- and
[37:38] I'm here oppose unless amended
[37:39] thank you. Any other witnesses
[37:43] in opposition to us before
[37:45] hearing room twelve hundred.
[37:48] correct we will now move on to
[37:52] witnesses wanting to testify p.
[37:53] of the teleconference service
[37:55] will be limiting the phone
[37:56] testimony to twenty minutes for
[37:58] the bill for all bills during
[38:00] this hearing. Moderator if you
[38:03] would please from the
[38:04] individuals waiting to testify
[38:06] in support or opposition and we
[38:09] will begin. Ladies and gentlemen
[38:11] if you are in support or
[38:13] opposition sb for please press
[38:15] one then zero on your phone. To
[38:17] oversee the line number in be
[38:19] placed back in queue. The
[38:21] speaker phone please pick up
[38:22] your handset before pressing the
[38:23] numbers and once again that's
[38:25] supporter opposition sb four one
[38:29] nine zero we will goal with it
[38:33] my number one twenty two. Your
[38:37] line is open one twenty two-
[38:41] gerald johnson road sprinkler
[38:42] fitters local six six nine. Can
[38:44] we stay on the state building
[38:45] trades in opposition with
[38:47] amended. Thank you my number one
[38:51] thirty two. One thirty two your
[38:59] line is open. Yes can you hear
[39:00] me. Go to say fifty five yes I
[39:05] can hear you go head. Twenty
[39:10] katie lou creating brand I'm
[39:12] here representing. It will
[39:15] action fine and how. It will
[39:18] advise committee. Strong support
[39:29] - before. Service provided for
[39:34] of supervisors thank you. Thank
[39:38] you not to local line one thirty
[39:41] for please go ahead. Okay one
[39:47] thirty five p. Push yourself our
[39:48] he go ahead. Can you hear me but
[39:53] I calling the regarding s. B.
[39:57] twenty three hello do I speak to
[40:00] for twenty three I know it a
[40:02] speech. The bill ma'am right now
[40:04] we're taking and into or in
[40:05] opposition for s. Before. Okay I
[40:10] go back to sleep twenty three
[40:14] okay thank you thank you may.
[40:20] and it next will go to live and
[40:24] - three here. I will go to line
[40:27] number one so two please ahead.
[40:29] hello this is kevin info the for
[40:31] committee legislation to help
[40:33] and for of a the for thank you.
[40:37] next we will two I never eighty.
[40:41] one to wonder what the tropical
[40:42] of bishops and I apologize our
[40:44] support better got misdirected
[40:46] within the portal but you don't
[40:48] have us listed on the analysis
[40:50] we are in very strong support of
[40:52] this before thank you. Thank you
[40:57] I number. One eighty seven. The
[41:03] new jersey members this is the
[41:03] extent of all the task
[41:04] california's largest the most
[41:05] impactful nonprofit homeless
[41:07] service providers in for support
[41:09] press before thank you. Thank
[41:11] you my number. One seventy four
[41:19] one seventy four. Instrument
[41:20] drove the port ask people thank
[41:22] you. Thank you bye number. One
[41:29] sixty seven. Good afternoon
[41:31] senators- this is clearly spoke
[41:32] with the california building
[41:33] industry association we are
[41:35] support if amended for s. Before
[41:38] we requested the labor
[41:39] provisions be removed from the
[41:41] bill other than that this is a
[41:42] wonderful bill when I think
[41:44] center where for his leadership.
[41:46] in addressing california's
[41:48] housing crisis. Thank you bye
[41:52] number so three go ahead. The
[41:57] binder. The city of campbell
[42:00] south bay and protect the you'd
[42:01] be proud support before thank
[42:03] you. Thank you my number. One
[42:09] nine four. This is to be more
[42:11] shiny one calling from angeles
[42:13] on behalf of westside for
[42:14] everyone strong support of sb.
[42:15] thank you. Thank you bye number
[42:20] . Thirty two. Hi open schaller
[42:23] from los angeles single family
[42:24] homeowners on I work with that
[42:27] church right now on fox. Taken a
[42:31] to the clinton fifteen but house
[42:33] on such. Thank you senator thank
[42:37] you for and before. Thank you my
[42:43] number. Two zero one two zero
[42:47] one. The reverend james chan of
[42:49] the fiscal dies of los angeles
[42:52] our vision has come twenty five.
[42:54] of all church. In the dot each.
[43:02] to afford housing only we could
[43:05] get sb four pass. Thank you
[43:08] structure. Thank you number
[43:11] eighty nine number. How good
[43:15] afternoon this st boston bill
[43:17] manager of plumbers pipefitters
[43:18] local eight four from turkey.
[43:21] mister to build state trades and
[43:24] - cooper. To this bill. Thank
[43:28] you number one seven six point
[43:31] seventy six. Afternoon care
[43:34] number proposed on behalf of the
[43:37] about the hills in the office
[43:39] thank you. Thank you my number
[43:43] one if. One fifteen. Good
[43:47] afternoon description is not
[43:48] behalf of a local five six nine
[43:50] occurred six hundred union a lot
[43:52] . San diego imperial county
[43:54] calling in opposition unless
[43:56] amended for both senate for an
[43:58] four to three you don't house by
[44:00] break the backs workers thank.
[44:05] thank you a line of one the you
[44:07] love one. Hello this is a
[44:10] committee president business age
[44:12] of iron look three said eight
[44:14] neistat with this building. And
[44:16] unless I. Thank you line of with
[44:24] . Forty seven forty seven. Wild
[44:27] well the- local ninety colleges
[44:32] considers them standing the
[44:34] state billingtree follow up of
[44:37] this whole this bill. Thank you
[44:42] alaina. One twenty five. Yes
[44:47] good afternoon this is james
[44:49] from the business agent our
[44:50] local three seventy and I stand
[44:51] opposed to s. B. For a man.
[45:05] twenty one twenty six. Thank you
[45:05] hearing. Schoology. Good
[45:11] afternoon kalra a press business
[45:13] thank you nine one because of
[45:15] forty three l. And we stand with
[45:17] stiff building trades in
[45:18] opposite of that before last
[45:20] summer thank you. Thank you
[45:26] number. Fifty three fifty three.
[45:30] hi my name is brian and I'm a
[45:33] age for you a local three nine
[45:33] three over thirty hundred
[45:35] pipefitters fitters and h. B.
[45:36] service tech in san clara in it
[45:37] okay- today I'm into oppose it
[45:39] before unless amended and I that
[45:42] you all do the same thing you
[45:43] for your time. Thank you my
[45:44] number eight nine. Point nine.
[45:47] hi my name is publicly- I live
[45:49] in oak and I phone california
[45:50] being used bay for everyone and
[45:52] I'm calling strong. This before
[45:53] thank. Thank you my number so
[45:59] seven once a seven. Robert new
[46:03] fields doesn't the power I don't
[46:06] judy or county. In strong
[46:09] support of the. Four thank you
[46:15] we will go to my number zero
[46:19] three zero. Madam chair todd to
[46:20] refer the sub california con is
[46:21] so. In support of s. B. Thank
[46:23] you. Thank you line fifty.
[46:27] vicegerent this is rob stoker on
[46:30] behalf of sheet metal workers
[46:32] local one of four and the
[46:33] building construction trades
[46:34] council of alameda county we
[46:36] stand with the state building
[46:37] trades in opposition of us
[46:39] before unless mended thank you.
[46:43] thank you thanks to recorded
[46:44] line number one forty seven.
[46:47] it's a matter speaking about
[46:49] pakistan give allowing support
[46:51] s. Before. Yeah thank you I get
[46:56] my number six six please call
[46:59] ahead. Good afternoon ab right
[47:02] manager do a to six and press
[47:05] couple representing members from
[47:06] fresno madera kings and
[47:07] flourished. We stand with the
[47:09] building trades in opposition
[47:11] unless amended. Thank you. Thank
[47:16] you mexico line one eighty
[47:18] please going. My name is tim
[47:20] clark which a community church
[47:22] in portola valley. In strong
[47:25] support of this before. Thank
[47:29] you next we'll go to line number
[47:31] seventy four please go ahead.
[47:35] this is jordan wind from united
[47:37] way of greater los angeles-
[47:39] calling in in strong support of
[47:42] sb four thanks very much. Thank
[47:45] you my number eighty three
[47:47] please go ahead. Hello this is
[47:50] david barboza on behalf of
[47:52] abundant housing la in strong
[47:54] support of its before thank you
[47:57] . Thank you next to a bottom
[47:58] line number sixty one sixty one
[48:01] please go ahead. Good afternoon
[48:03] this is john henry lopez with
[48:05] the ua plumbers and pipefitters
[48:07] local two four six representing
[48:09] fresno madera until tulare kings
[48:11] counties and I'm standing in
[48:13] strong opposition. Of this bill
[48:17] unless amended thank you. Thank
[48:20] you my number one goal one one a
[48:24] one. Hello the next more locally
[48:25] elevator union I'm staying
[48:27] involuntary with the state
[48:28] building trained in opposition.
[48:31] you cannot build housing that
[48:32] could be on state skilled and
[48:34] trained workforce is mandatory
[48:36] for the state yet the residents
[48:39] . Thank you. Thank you my number
[48:43] one of forty two one forty two.
[48:47] hello my name is different how
[48:48] they were they gamble I'm with
[48:50] the procedure at the pacific
[48:52] presbyterians. In los angeles
[48:54] area. Representing fifty four
[48:56] churches fong event be. We need
[48:59] to find an extract right back
[49:01] between barker protection and
[49:03] for les. Affordable housing.
[49:08] thank you we will go to number
[49:12] two oh six tools. Yes this
[49:14] martin rodriguez I work with
[49:15] local for thirty three. Dallas
[49:18] state building trades opposes
[49:19] bill let amended. Thank you.
[49:24] thank you weinberg two seventy
[49:26] two please go ahead. Hi my
[49:32] number seventy two your line is
[49:33] open. John johnson at the
[49:40] berkeley now crap we stand in
[49:42] line with the state building
[49:44] trades in opposition is- at
[49:45] before thank you. Thank you bye
[49:48] number. Two hundred. Good
[49:52] afternoon this is one hundred
[49:53] guests with ibew local forty we
[49:55] stand with the state building
[49:56] trades and oppose as before and
[49:59] as amended. Thank you my number
[50:03] fifty four fifty four. But gets
[50:06] with sprinkler fitter to a local
[50:08] seven oh nine we stand with
[50:10] state building trades in
[50:10] opposition unless amended thank
[50:12] you. My number. Sixty eight. Hi
[50:19] my name is frank martinez policy
[50:21] director for the southern
[50:22] california association of
[50:23] nonprofit housing groups camps
[50:25] we are co sponsoring this bill.
[50:27] represents nonprofit builders
[50:28] affordable housing in southern
[50:30] california region of nineteen
[50:32] million people are members
[50:33] strongly support this bill and
[50:34] they agree on affordable housing
[50:36] projects in the pipelines that
[50:38] would move forward faster as
[50:41] soon as this bill is passed
[50:42] thank you. Thank you my number.
[50:49] fifty seven fifty seven. The
[50:50] firm sacramento here building
[50:52] and construction trades council.
[50:53] and we stand with the cal state
[50:55] building trades in opposition
[50:57] unless amended thank you. Thank
[51:01] you my number one fifty one.
[51:05] carol can the san diego building
[51:06] trades council and in opposition
[51:09] again a lesson and it thank you
[51:12] . Thank you bye number. One
[51:16] thirty seven. Yeah this is larry
[51:17] mazzola you a local thirty eight
[51:20] plumbers and pipefitters
[51:20] business manager at san
[51:21] francisco strongly oppose this
[51:25] bill unless amended. I wanna
[51:26] make it clear that there is only
[51:28] one union in support of this
[51:29] bill and they are not part of
[51:33] the building trades thank you.
[51:34] thank you of line number seventy
[51:37] please go ahead. My number
[51:44] seventy six please go ahead. Hi
[51:47] disappearing of represent and-
[51:49] refer someone approvals local
[51:51] forty of san francisco county
[51:52] and san matteo and we stand in
[51:55] the with the state military to
[51:57] strong opposition of this bill
[52:00] unless amended. Thank you my
[52:02] number. Eighty five eighty five.
[52:12] my number eighty five your line
[52:13] is open. We will move on to the
[52:17] next line which would be fifty
[52:19] eight to please go ahead. Good
[52:22] afternoon my name's regina
[52:23] califia would the ibew local
[52:26] five nine five representing
[52:27] nearly twenty five hundred
[52:29] electrical workers in alameda
[52:30] san joaquin calaveras county-
[52:32] feeding in solidarity with the
[52:33] state building trades in
[52:34] opposition to senate bill four
[52:38] thank you. Thank you my number.
[52:45] one thirty eight. My number one
[52:46] thirty eight your open. Yeah
[52:48] good afternoon can you hear me
[52:49] now. Go ahead. Hi my name is
[52:52] patrick davidson local printer
[52:54] nine nine pairs knowledge
[52:54] trades- represents san diego and
[52:57] imperial county used I stand
[52:58] opposition was the billion tree
[53:01] jim was amended thank you. Thank
[53:05] you. Go to my number one eighty
[53:08] two. Hello this is rob nielsen
[53:12] from palo alto and peninsula for
[53:14] everyone and I am calling in for
[53:16] strong supporter of this before
[53:19] thank you. Thank you will go to
[53:22] line number eighty nine eighty
[53:24] nine please go ahead and. Number
[53:31] eighty nine your line is open.
[53:36] next we'll move on to line
[53:37] number one thirty thirty please
[53:40] go ahead. My number one thirty
[53:47] your line is open. Okay we will
[53:52] go to my number one thirty three
[53:55] my number one thirty three.
[53:59] afternoon rudy gonzalez cancers
[54:02] ability you can reach council
[54:03] representing over seventeen
[54:06] hundred apprentices in our area
[54:08] eight thousand skilled and
[54:10] trained union workers. And we
[54:10] oppose unless amended standard
[54:14] state bill trips. Thank you will
[54:18] go to my are five please go
[54:20] ahead. Yes reverend bert newton
[54:24] in pasadena with making housing
[54:26] and community happen and we are
[54:28] in strong support of this before
[54:30] to address disappear. For awhile
[54:33] housing crisis. Excludable to
[54:39] line number one forty one. My
[54:41] first behind his budget. My
[54:45] number one forty one your line
[54:46] is open. Thank you I don't think
[54:53] countered all of them french.
[54:54] great when it will go to line
[54:57] number forty is my number forty
[55:00] . Yeah hi todd berry road
[55:01] sprinkler fitters local six six
[55:04] nine and I stand in opposition.
[55:05] amended with the state building
[55:07] trades thank you. Thank you to a
[55:10] photo I. Number. Thirty four.
[55:15] your local six nine. I stand
[55:19] this building trades are not in
[55:22] amend. Thank you klein number
[55:25] seven but it was a local sixty
[55:30] nine I stand in with the state
[55:32] building choi the lesson. Thank
[55:36] you line. Two hard is robert.
[55:41] lead with volunteer san
[55:43] francisco emb and so thank. I
[55:47] thank you my number one of one
[55:51] oh five. His office bizarre with
[55:54] you a three nine three we
[55:56] represent thirty one hundred
[55:57] plumbers painters. And hvac
[55:59] service. Santa clarendon no
[56:03] county. We stand with the state
[56:04] building trades and stand
[56:06] opposition of sb four unless
[56:08] amended. Thank you my number.
[56:15] one eighty six. Afternoon among
[56:17] those particular here I'm also
[56:18] business representative with you
[56:20] a local three nine three plumber
[56:22] thinkers and perpetration
[56:23] patterson santa clara and san
[56:24] benito counties and we stand
[56:26] with the state building trades
[56:27] in opposition to this bill let's
[56:30] amended. Thank you. Thank you
[56:33] next to- go to line number
[56:35] ninety nine please go ahead. My
[56:41] number ninety nine your line is
[56:42] open. Doug benji any-
[56:46] international brotherhood of
[56:48] electrical workers four four one
[56:49] orange county we stand with the
[56:51] building trades in opposition to
[56:53] sb four unless amended. Thank
[56:57] you bye number. Two eleven to
[57:03] eleven. Hi this is david watkins
[57:05] who is known to you beacon
[57:07] support of sb. Thank you my
[57:12] number two twenty one to twenty
[57:14] one. Eight m. Subsidy q. We will
[57:18] go with to nineteen please go
[57:20] ahead. Two twenty three please
[57:26] go ahead. Dr michael on behalf
[57:30] of senators in the interim
[57:32] support of us before thank you.
[57:34] thank you we will now go to
[57:37] nineteen please go ahead.
[57:40] afternoon my name is erica
[57:41] ballantyne with you a local
[57:45] three nine three of the former
[57:45] quite fingers and hvacr
[57:47] technicians at fancards family
[57:48] don't county we represent thirty
[57:50] one hundred members today we
[57:52] stand with the building trades
[57:53] in opposition of sb four unless
[57:57] amended thank you. Thank you
[57:58] line number two twenty seven to
[58:02] twenty seven. Hi my name is sean
[58:03] mcfeely I'm a proud you be
[58:05] volunteer in strong support
[58:06] thank you. Thank you my number.
[58:13] one fifty two. Remembered you a
[58:15] local two forty six fresno
[58:16] plumbers and pipefitters. And we
[58:20] - ten and strong up of that
[58:21] before and that the minute.
[58:26] thank you my number. Forty nine
[58:32] forty two. Yeah that's right
[58:33] weber ironworkers force. Please
[58:36] stand with federal opposite.
[58:41] that's the for which the
[58:43] launchers. Thank you regard the
[58:48] line numbers nine. And will be
[58:49] our last. This. Global six nine.
[58:58] strong opposition. For our
[59:02] partners. Wall they don't hang
[59:05] by. Okay thank you very much of
[59:11] a book. Madam are able to live
[59:13] reached our twenty one I okay.
[59:20] for without. Matter moderate
[59:23] we've out m. We have taken to
[59:26] minutes on my to. Sir we're
[59:28] going to have. We're gonna stop
[59:30] are test to- but they want to
[59:33] thank our- all of our c. Numbers
[59:36] which- will now bring discussion
[59:37] back to remember. To any of our
[59:39] members have any or the would
[59:40] like to make. Senator seyarto.
[59:45] thank you center winner and- hi
[59:48] my appreciate your to in trying
[59:51] to address what is almost an
[59:52] impossible problem for
[59:53] california in- in our housing
[59:56] industries- when you take aways
[1:00:00] owning. Just save. You you
[1:00:04] changes owning the city doesn't
[1:00:06] have any say in it. What happens
[1:00:08] to the rest of their zoning what
[1:00:11] happens to their general plan.
[1:00:12] as as I understand it when I
[1:00:15] worked in local government a
[1:00:17] lot. Once you change zone for
[1:00:20] the zoning for one and made it
[1:00:22] more dancer last dancer added v.
[1:00:24] and all these other things it
[1:00:26] affects the ability of other
[1:00:29] property that is probably zone
[1:00:31] for the same thing. That's
[1:00:34] actually zone for it- to get
[1:00:36] through the process itself- so
[1:00:40] how do you address that if the
[1:00:42] city is not going to be involved
[1:00:45] . So that their general plan.
[1:00:49] all of their elements that are
[1:00:51] part of the general plan don't
[1:00:53] get thrown out of whack. And out
[1:00:55] of whack means in disfavor. With
[1:00:59] that housing commission here in
[1:01:02] california- I thank you for the
[1:01:05] question a couple a couple
[1:01:06] things this is not our
[1:01:08] government cause a quorum court
[1:01:09] throws out of local zoning the
[1:01:11] there is land that may not be
[1:01:13] zoned for residential- that's
[1:01:15] owned by religious institution
[1:01:16] that will now be zoned. For it-
[1:01:19] the bill which is a good and
[1:01:21] this was extensively negotiated
[1:01:23] in governance and finance
[1:01:24] committee with senator mcguire
[1:01:26] who is the chair at the time.
[1:01:28] three years ago- it it there are
[1:01:30] a local height limit- often
[1:01:32] applies or might be local have
[1:01:35] an a plus one if it's in our for
[1:01:38] commercial. Local zoning- it
[1:01:43] hasn't made make some changes to
[1:01:45] particularly for areas that you
[1:01:47] know. The church land might not
[1:01:48] be zoned for residential. But in
[1:01:50] terms of the general or the
[1:01:51] housing element I don't think it
[1:01:53] has any effect. On on the rest
[1:01:55] of it it's a city has owned for
[1:01:57] different things in different
[1:01:59] parts of the city- battle
[1:01:59] remains. This will help cities
[1:02:02] meet the arena. Because we know
[1:02:05] the city sometimes own parcels
[1:02:06] consumers are big fights about
[1:02:08] this about whether a parcel is
[1:02:09] actually realistic right and we
[1:02:12] have a history with which to
[1:02:13] which we tried to move away from
[1:02:15] cities zoning a cemetery for
[1:02:16] high density housing or a- brand
[1:02:18] new target that was as bill two
[1:02:19] years ago for high density
[1:02:21] housing. Sites that we know
[1:02:22] we're never going to get bills-
[1:02:24] we tried to move away from that
[1:02:25] but there's always disputes and
[1:02:27] we know that there are. Even now
[1:02:29] man that's identified that. They
[1:02:30] hope will become available to me
[1:02:32] that may not so this will be
[1:02:34] helpful to cities in meeting
[1:02:36] their the hardest part of arena.
[1:02:38] the their most cities don't even
[1:02:40] meet the market rate arena. But
[1:02:42] almost no city meets are below
[1:02:43] market rate units the hardest
[1:02:45] part to me. This will help
[1:02:46] cities meet. That obligation.
[1:02:49] right yeah and I've heard this a
[1:02:50] lot- in just a three years I've
[1:02:53] been people I've been dealing
[1:02:54] with this. In this legislature
[1:02:56] for more than three years it's
[1:02:58] been five six seven years I see
[1:02:59] old bills that come through. And
[1:03:01] not one of them has been
[1:03:03] successful in dealing with- to
[1:03:04] talking about otherwise we all.
[1:03:11] wouldn't be here- I think. You
[1:03:14] know my issue with bills. Blake
[1:03:16] this. Is that. Here we go. We
[1:03:19] kind of taking bites out local
[1:03:20] ca. I that's the- it's not the
[1:03:22] problem the problem is. Over the
[1:03:24] last. To forty years the state
[1:03:26] has imposed so many regulations
[1:03:28] and such a process to get
[1:03:31] through. That we have. Created a
[1:03:34] situation where our supply. Is
[1:03:36] severely behind the demand. And
[1:03:40] no matter how hard we try and
[1:03:42] what other fixes we do. We see
[1:03:45] we just can't seem to fix that-
[1:03:47] I know court current for
[1:03:50] affordable housing projects.
[1:03:51] that were started when I just
[1:03:53] first got back on the city
[1:03:55] council eight years ago. And
[1:03:57] they're just now getting the
[1:03:59] financing from each cd. To be
[1:04:01] able to start the project so
[1:04:04] that it didn't fix the process.
[1:04:07] whatever that law was that they
[1:04:09] were using to get this process
[1:04:11] going it didn't fix it. What
[1:04:13] needs fixed. Is the state's
[1:04:16] entire process for building
[1:04:19] everything. Because not only is
[1:04:22] the housing falling behind but
[1:04:23] once you build housing once
[1:04:25] you've cleared the path to build
[1:04:27] all the housing. We still have
[1:04:29] roads flood control we have to
[1:04:31] try to attract jobs we need
[1:04:33] water infrastructure commercial
[1:04:35] buildings to support that
[1:04:36] housing. Affordable and safe
[1:04:39] transit lines we need schools
[1:04:41] and all of that is being
[1:04:42] affected by the state's process.
[1:04:45] and none of what we have tried
[1:04:48] to do in the last five years or
[1:04:50] ten years even. Has fix that.
[1:04:53] and so we keep throwing sequel
[1:04:55] exemptions into this project and
[1:04:57] that project. But at the same
[1:05:00] and then nothing's working. And
[1:05:02] so at some point we're gonna
[1:05:04] have to face the fact. That we
[1:05:06] got to put everybody to work
[1:05:08] doing all of those things but
[1:05:09] all of those things are being
[1:05:11] obstructed. By our process if we
[1:05:14] don't address that is a state
[1:05:17] we're never going to solve this
[1:05:18] problem. I'm sure for I first of
[1:05:23] all I. I don't disagree that the
[1:05:25] state's men's puts roadblocks in
[1:05:27] the way right and some of the
[1:05:30] work I've done. Has addressed on
[1:05:31] some of the issues that you've
[1:05:32] that you've reyes I don't
[1:05:34] disagree with what I do disagree
[1:05:35] with is suggest that only the
[1:05:37] state because we know that when
[1:05:39] cities say. You're not allowed
[1:05:41] to build any housing in this
[1:05:42] area where you can build multi
[1:05:44] unit over nocturnal we're gonna
[1:05:46] reject all affordable housing
[1:05:47] there are extractions that
[1:05:49] happen. At the local level two
[1:05:51] unfortunately. We have passed
[1:05:53] streamlining bills no losses
[1:05:54] since I've been here which is a
[1:05:56] little over six years of. That
[1:05:58] have been very successful in-
[1:05:59] you know for example the next to
[1:06:01] we're gonna you're gonna hear
[1:06:03] that there are a for affordable
[1:06:04] housing. The approval time goes
[1:06:05] from several years to several
[1:06:06] months- so- I partially agree
[1:06:09] with you but I partially
[1:06:10] disagree. Right and I understand
[1:06:12] that. But mine be mindful that.
[1:06:15] local agencies especially newer
[1:06:17] cities. Were all made to go
[1:06:20] through an x. Currently
[1:06:21] expensive process doing a
[1:06:23] general plan is a- is a long
[1:06:26] process it takes probably three
[1:06:28] to four or five years sometimes.
[1:06:29] cost millions of dollars for the
[1:06:32] community and it's all based on
[1:06:33] what they're being told by the
[1:06:34] state there general plan has to
[1:06:37] include. And. So they include
[1:06:43] all those things. Then there
[1:06:45] give the bad of gray. That need
[1:06:47] to be in for people to be to
[1:06:48] come in and build. And then we
[1:06:50] tell cities. Hey you guys are
[1:06:52] doing your job. Searches do and
[1:06:54] what we are they were told to
[1:06:55] do. And now we're we're coming
[1:06:57] out- with this exemption in that
[1:06:58] exemption. To tell them that hey
[1:06:59] you know what you guys are doing
[1:07:02] your job you're not letting
[1:07:03] these things through. They
[1:07:04] can't. They can't by law because
[1:07:06] that's when the third element of
[1:07:07] this comes and that's the
[1:07:09] lawsuit that comes at the end of
[1:07:12] the parade. It just stop
[1:07:14] everything. And we if we don't
[1:07:16] fix that we're not going to fix
[1:07:18] this problem and that's I I'm
[1:07:20] I'm kind of tired of. Throwing
[1:07:23] throwing solutions at the
[1:07:27] problem there aren't working.
[1:07:28] because we're not looking at the
[1:07:29] underlying problem site. I
[1:07:31] always use fire service got.
[1:07:33] it's like alejo's above the fire
[1:07:35] and letting it go over it looks
[1:07:37] really cool. But it's not put
[1:07:40] the fire out. We need to aim the
[1:07:42] hose at the right place and
[1:07:44] that's the base of the fire and
[1:07:45] we simply aren't doing that. And
[1:07:47] I understand we keep doing it a
[1:07:48] little here and a little their-
[1:07:50] but we're not doing it otherwise
[1:07:53] everybody would be working.
[1:07:54] because we have so much stuff
[1:07:56] that needs to be done this is
[1:07:58] aiming right at the fire. Press
[1:08:01] well I was a firefighter I'd say
[1:08:03] this is being at the top of the
[1:08:05] flames like preach it you're a-
[1:08:08] assessment. Thank you. There is
[1:08:13] a- thank you centers they are to
[1:08:16] do we any other. Comments
[1:08:19] questions about center to cover
[1:08:20] year please. I don't any any-
[1:08:23] questions I just want to be able
[1:08:26] to frame what I think is an
[1:08:27] unfortunate. Duration and I know
[1:08:30] senator wiener has. Has you know
[1:08:34] grappled with this as well-
[1:08:35] there is no question that we
[1:08:37] have a housing crisis in.
[1:08:39] california I think we all agree
[1:08:41] and what we disagree at that you
[1:08:43] know what's that absolute
[1:08:44] perfect solution there isn't any
[1:08:47] we've got to try to chip away
[1:08:48] little by little. That the
[1:08:51] things that will actually make a
[1:08:53] difference and I really
[1:08:54] appreciate this year- let me
[1:08:56] just say that I've supported
[1:08:58] this bill in the past and I
[1:08:59] really appreciated this year
[1:09:00] the- the religious institutions
[1:09:03] being here because- this is
[1:09:06] going. To provide an
[1:09:08] opportunity. For outreach into
[1:09:11] the community to build housing
[1:09:13] that's desperately needed and in
[1:09:15] communities that may have been
[1:09:18] the most recalcitrant about
[1:09:20] building affordable housing my
[1:09:22] experience serving in local
[1:09:24] government- is that- I'm- being
[1:09:28] the mayor of a blue collar
[1:09:29] community. We built housing
[1:09:32] affordable housing in our
[1:09:33] communities but thirty miles
[1:09:35] away from us twenty miles away
[1:09:37] from us the wealthier
[1:09:38] communities. Abrogated the
[1:09:39] responsibility and did not build
[1:09:42] affordable housing at all. And
[1:09:43] so it really put a lot of
[1:09:46] pressure on those fund that
[1:09:47] represented- I'm from a rural
[1:09:50] agricultural community. You know
[1:09:52] put a lot of pressure on us so
[1:09:54] the more that we can change the
[1:09:57] entire community and to do it
[1:09:57] through- this bill I think it's-
[1:10:00] a really important thing. Let me
[1:10:02] just say that- I'm really sad.
[1:10:07] and- the- at the disagree b. The
[1:10:09] different- unions- I'm I'm I'm
[1:10:14] there with you. By I want. To
[1:10:17] have union protections want to
[1:10:19] make sure we have good paying
[1:10:21] jobs and that we're doing
[1:10:22] everything we can to lift up the
[1:10:24] work- and the workers both
[1:10:28] because- quite frankly a lot of
[1:10:30] these- housing units are are
[1:10:32] going to be starter homes for
[1:10:34] union members to be able to get
[1:10:37] into and build. Build wealth and
[1:10:38] leave something to their
[1:10:39] families and so this is really
[1:10:42] really important. But but the-
[1:10:43] but the battle over the language
[1:10:45] has me you know very concerned-
[1:10:48] I don't. I don't want to be the
[1:10:51] this is a housing bill. And it's
[1:10:53] got some. Huge impacts on the
[1:10:56] labor community but but I want
[1:10:58] to hope that there's a sweet
[1:10:59] spot where we can get to yes and
[1:11:01] so there I think are many of us
[1:11:03] here at the dyess- that want to
[1:11:05] see. The disagreements between
[1:11:08] the trades and the carpenters
[1:11:10] resolve so that we can have a
[1:11:12] happy peace and I'll be here
[1:11:14] together and- hold hands and-
[1:11:16] and move forward I don't want to
[1:11:18] be killing housing bills
[1:11:19] because- we can agree on things
[1:11:22] like I just don't this is such a
[1:11:24] critical issue that- we can't
[1:11:26] wait any longer. And so- I'm
[1:11:29] going to ask them senator wiener
[1:11:31] if he's willing to continue to
[1:11:33] sit at the table and to try to
[1:11:35] work this thing out this comes
[1:11:37] aye. Aye sure the next committee
[1:11:39] that disclosed to and- and like
[1:11:42] I said I don't want to be
[1:11:44] killing housing bills we
[1:11:45] desperately need to work and we
[1:11:46] need the units. So. Center
[1:11:52] wiener. Thank you very much
[1:11:53] center caballero. This one is
[1:11:55] that. First of all on the point
[1:11:58] you made which is a- is that
[1:12:00] this bill. Will significan
[1:12:02] percent of this land is and what
[1:12:03] call high. Community so we're
[1:12:05] not just only put. We're
[1:12:07] spreading and it's going be a
[1:12:08] lower can higher income. Because
[1:12:09] we need a housing- everywhere.
[1:12:11] in terms of the labor split I do
[1:12:14] want to cry there was one caller
[1:12:16] from my- uncertain or union
[1:12:17] leader in the mice. Our
[1:12:19] community who only one- union
[1:12:20] was support this bill numbers
[1:12:22] are that. Card the operating and
[1:12:26] laborers I see you and the
[1:12:28] school and- associates just
[1:12:30] correct the record on the. None
[1:12:37] of none of us like. Labor later
[1:12:39] fights happens. Sometimes in the
[1:12:42] - it's happening here hi mike I
[1:12:44] can aye all to. Trade sponsored
[1:12:46] bill. Last year I also to bill
[1:12:49] last year public work bills with
[1:12:51] skilled workforce. Hi and- it's
[1:12:53] not for me either to be a us but
[1:12:56] I do want to see. Because this
[1:12:58] issue pop up three years ago and
[1:13:00] especially with respect to a
[1:13:01] hundred affordable was the years
[1:13:02] ago. With the products of the sb
[1:13:06] nine nine. For three. Five to
[1:13:08] trades until until in the face
[1:13:10] that I want to resolve this. But
[1:13:12] I want people to the table- so
[1:13:14] we can resolve. And it takes to
[1:13:17] tango- and the trade. Respectful
[1:13:21] have not changed. One inch.
[1:13:28] since .com I withdraw hunter
[1:13:30] three ago and- of twenty- we did
[1:13:32] have slight in a six. With the
[1:13:35] agreement- to the better which
[1:13:37] is called work. I offered
[1:13:40] beginning I suggest to committee
[1:13:41] it ab twenty as six. Kind of
[1:13:43] wrestle like with year and I
[1:13:44] told no that's no low support
[1:13:46] that. Chris I'm just observing-
[1:13:50] we're I am my doors always open
[1:13:51] I met with mr meredith to weeks
[1:13:53] ago. I'm happy to continue
[1:13:54] meeting under the carpenters
[1:13:56] what we're willing to bring
[1:13:57] everyone to the table to try to
[1:13:58] resolve this. In a way that will
[1:14:00] actually get housing bills- but
[1:14:06] it does take two to tango. Thank
[1:14:09] you senator wiener. Us will help
[1:14:12] thank and if you center kabir- I
[1:14:15] wanted to ask senator wiener. Is
[1:14:17] about this bill just so the
[1:14:18] public is informed- can you
[1:14:21] explain the portability- to this
[1:14:23] particular bill. For this bill
[1:14:25] only a 100% below market rate-
[1:14:29] this only applies 2100% below
[1:14:32] below market rate highs so and-
[1:14:34] it can have- a small percentage
[1:14:37] of eighty to a hundred and
[1:14:38] twenty percent. Am I which is
[1:14:40] considered moderate income below
[1:14:41] market rate housing with the
[1:14:43] bulk of the day under eighty
[1:14:45] percent- low very very low
[1:14:47] extremely low the average. Am I
[1:14:49] always must be 80% or lower. We
[1:14:51] also know that because of the
[1:14:53] nature of- the state for the
[1:14:57] housing funding streams as an
[1:14:58] incentive to make sure that you
[1:14:59] have. Some of the very low and
[1:15:01] extremely low- income housing
[1:15:03] and these projects as a big
[1:15:05] financial incentive to do that-
[1:15:07] so we are actually making sure
[1:15:08] that were housing. Other people
[1:15:10] who were in the most desperate
[1:15:11] need. For a but this bill only
[1:15:13] applies to a 100% deed
[1:15:15] restricted below market rate
[1:15:16] housing okay my second question
[1:15:18] was the restricted- and then as
[1:15:20] as far as- it. The conversation
[1:15:24] regarding. The labor disputes- I
[1:15:27] think it's very challenging when
[1:15:29] you know the majority of us do
[1:15:31] you want to support working
[1:15:32] people getting paid fairly and
[1:15:33] much more I know that that is a
[1:15:35] deep deep concern of the larger
[1:15:37] body- this is the housing
[1:15:39] committee and I do just want to
[1:15:40] frankly state. That if there's a
[1:15:43] disagreement we have to
[1:15:44] prioritize affordability. Rate
[1:15:46] and so I do just want to state
[1:15:49] that- I do second- center to
[1:15:51] cover your was concerns and if
[1:15:53] there is a conversation and I do
[1:15:55] believe from both- sites or any
[1:15:57] to be good faith effort to come
[1:15:59] together. Otherwise we will be
[1:16:00] prioritizing affordability right
[1:16:02] and- that is one of the biggest
[1:16:04] concerns that. I have is that we
[1:16:10] are not developing and off low
[1:16:12] and extremely low. How across
[1:16:13] the board. So- I will supporting
[1:16:14] but I was still stressing very
[1:16:17] that- you know affordability is
[1:16:18] very. Important to me but also
[1:16:20] making sure that all all members
[1:16:22] of. Labor are on the same page-
[1:16:25] moving forward hopefully so.
[1:16:27] thank you and that's all my
[1:16:29] questions. Thank you several. We
[1:16:32] also have center cortese
[1:16:34] supposed several senator breaks
[1:16:35] here. Three parties in the
[1:16:39] senator please bear. With the
[1:16:41] manager- I'm just going to make
[1:16:43] a couple calls are. Of the
[1:16:45] author wants to. No although-
[1:16:51] full disclaimer intent to now a
[1:16:53] couple questions so
[1:16:54] particularly- of witnesses and
[1:16:56] those are here to answer
[1:16:58] questions. About work for
[1:17:00] standards- when we get to the
[1:17:01] next bill so I don't wanna be
[1:17:04] redundant. Of basically do this
[1:17:05] twice- but my concern- first of
[1:17:11] all let me put me. Back up to
[1:17:13] submit it and say the senator
[1:17:14] wiener as- the as the author you
[1:17:17] know thank you. For all of your
[1:17:19] work landmark legislation in the
[1:17:22] area of streamlining- and
[1:17:24] working through what just a few
[1:17:25] years ago was. Really
[1:17:27] untouchable topic which is-
[1:17:31] getting that seek work in in the
[1:17:34] use of seek work- in some places
[1:17:36] in some ways as as an obstacle
[1:17:39] to the housing production you
[1:17:40] nice served- at the regional
[1:17:43] level in in our own bay area
[1:17:45] community- working through the
[1:17:47] renewal process I saw you first
[1:17:49] hand how frustrated you were.
[1:17:51] and I know that you're- also a
[1:17:53] personal environmentally
[1:17:54] conscious that you're a
[1:17:55] concerned about the colocation
[1:17:57] or lack there of- of affordable
[1:18:00] housing and jobs which is. A
[1:18:02] tremendous concern in you know
[1:18:03] in our own area city so one
[1:18:05] eight knowledge all that as well
[1:18:07] as- the obviously the- the
[1:18:09] excellent work to your committee
[1:18:12] stuff. Does in- assisting you in
[1:18:15] in producing this work product.
[1:18:17] I've relied upon the myself at
[1:18:19] times over the last couple of
[1:18:21] years so thank you for all that-
[1:18:27] similar to- as- bureaus. Of
[1:18:30] course- know you will expect
[1:18:33] this is a maybe we've talked
[1:18:34] about it- I'm a co author on
[1:18:36] this bill I call through the
[1:18:38] bill in the whole. You know that
[1:18:39] we would be able to through the
[1:18:41] course of the session here get
[1:18:43] to the right place in terms of.
[1:18:45] of work for standards- I do. I
[1:18:51] believe that it takes. You know
[1:18:55] two to tango so to speak- but it
[1:18:58] would say the same time and it
[1:19:00] said the says as a labor chaired
[1:19:03] different committee different
[1:19:03] jurisdiction- that that's just
[1:19:05] not. That doesn't fall solely on
[1:19:08] from the building trades council
[1:19:11] it falls on. Both parties coming
[1:19:14] forward sitting down. In the in
[1:19:17] hashing through. What doesn't
[1:19:19] work or what won't work here or
[1:19:21] what hasn't worked in the past-
[1:19:23] in a note your concern is. A
[1:19:26] concern about what hasn't worked
[1:19:27] in the past got to try something
[1:19:29] different I think that's- very
[1:19:31] much a carpenter's concern as
[1:19:34] well- that said. For me
[1:19:37] fortunately during the course
[1:19:40] of. Of the run of this bill- the
[1:19:46] issues about. The lack of this
[1:19:48] language in in my humble opinion
[1:19:50] again that's for sure of labor
[1:19:53] committing somebody gets
[1:19:53] immersed in this stuff day in
[1:19:56] and day out- the current
[1:19:58] language doesn't drive
[1:20:00] apprenticeship- been and isn't
[1:20:02] going to lead to a trained
[1:20:04] workforce. It obviously won't
[1:20:05] lead to application of a trained
[1:20:07] workforce but won't even lead to
[1:20:09] the creation or the building of
[1:20:11] a trained workforce in the
[1:20:12] state. Which the last time I
[1:20:14] checked was lowest per capita of
[1:20:16] all fifty states- in
[1:20:18] apprenticeship programs in
[1:20:21] general not just in
[1:20:21] construction. So that has to be
[1:20:24] resolved so that were in
[1:20:25] integrity with the values that.
[1:20:28] it leaves my caucus holds your
[1:20:30] caucus or caucus holds a going
[1:20:33] forward- because that's not what
[1:20:35] we stand for not what we stand
[1:20:38] for in terms of workforce
[1:20:38] development- it taking a step
[1:20:40] back is. Is does not okay- so
[1:20:44] really. All sides needed come
[1:20:46] forward in a dress all sites are
[1:20:49] not putting that on the author
[1:20:50] se but I do think it's an
[1:20:53] unfortunate. Circumstance of the
[1:20:54] way. We operate as a legislature
[1:20:57] those rules have been here long
[1:20:59] before any of us. That we would
[1:21:01] have a bill whose primary
[1:21:03] contention is labor standards.
[1:21:06] coming because because it's
[1:21:09] also. A very significant housing
[1:21:11] bills but whose primary
[1:21:13] contention is not the housing
[1:21:14] piece in the production piece
[1:21:16] but the labor peace starting
[1:21:17] off. In the in the non labor
[1:21:21] committee and then with all due
[1:21:22] respect to center cut the owes
[1:21:24] report work in government
[1:21:25] finances going their- where. The
[1:21:29] committee staff in in a people
[1:21:31] who focus jurisdiction only on
[1:21:33] issues or are not. Spent not
[1:21:36] spent fifteen or twenty years
[1:21:38] twenty five years the working
[1:21:40] through these issues in a in a
[1:21:41] professional manner so. That
[1:21:44] also is not on the author or
[1:21:46] this committee of I think it's
[1:21:48] an unfortunate circumstance that
[1:21:49] we have to proceed based on our
[1:21:51] own rules and rules the way
[1:21:53] rules has has a sign bills. In a
[1:21:55] way that the deep seas issues
[1:21:57] hanging up before they're in.
[1:21:59] really the proper forum- in the
[1:22:03] proper technical- for a in the
[1:22:07] proper. To get a he know in a
[1:22:10] way that I think would be
[1:22:12] singular in consistent with all
[1:22:14] of our values- consistent with
[1:22:18] all of our values is not to have
[1:22:21] multiple. Multiple standards. On
[1:22:25] residential construction work
[1:22:26] for so frankly work construction
[1:22:28] work force in general. At times
[1:22:31] last year. Through no fault of
[1:22:33] anyone here. We had up to five
[1:22:38] different versions of. But
[1:22:40] workforce standards in different
[1:22:42] bills being proposed- in moving
[1:22:46] through the legislature. Again
[1:22:49] without any real attempt to
[1:22:51] consolidate those into a
[1:22:52] statement of what our values
[1:22:55] really are in that regard a
[1:22:56] singular universal standard that
[1:23:00] would apply to this kind of
[1:23:02] work- so as center caballero
[1:23:04] said anything center will have a
[1:23:06] - all. Alluded to at least a one
[1:23:09] per words into her mouth. But my
[1:23:11] vote. Would not be my vote on
[1:23:15] the floor. If we somehow arrived
[1:23:18] all the way to the floor-
[1:23:20] without still having addressed
[1:23:22] all these issues senate
[1:23:23] certainly willing to do my part-
[1:23:26] it's not somebody else's work
[1:23:27] it's all of our work but it has
[1:23:30] to be resolved as far as I'm
[1:23:32] concerned. Before we get to the
[1:23:33] final day of reckoning because
[1:23:35] otherwise I think it puts us in
[1:23:37] the spot. Where people like me
[1:23:38] of saying it's okay it's okay to
[1:23:41] have to not know what. What are
[1:23:43] standard really is. In you know
[1:23:47] to move forward bills that
[1:23:49] frankly are at odds with each
[1:23:50] other- maybe your bill my bill
[1:23:53] for example last year was two
[1:23:54] other bills that were at odds
[1:23:56] with each other. We approve them
[1:23:58] both as if. As if. Multiple
[1:24:01] standards- okay in something
[1:24:05] that's- so vital. To creating
[1:24:07] equity in a california for all.
[1:24:10] so since I said more than I
[1:24:12] thought it would on this bill I
[1:24:14] will save us next bill but I do-
[1:24:17] you know we- have a couple
[1:24:18] questions we get. To for twenty
[1:24:22] three to ask them- and some of
[1:24:24] the way. Thank you for your work
[1:24:27] . B. And I've today course as is
[1:24:30] - but we forward to resolution.
[1:24:33] thank you you want to stress
[1:24:35] when. First first committee is
[1:24:38] literally the first time this
[1:24:39] for ever been and committee.
[1:24:43] great resolve things but first.
[1:24:45] with a twenty who law year it I
[1:24:49] don't think that covers all
[1:24:50] until. August by if my memory.
[1:24:53] serves caballero deeply.
[1:24:56] involved in and I it took a
[1:24:59] right if we can get it resolved
[1:25:01] the flood script I'm I to wanna
[1:25:03] . Since that when this first
[1:25:05] came up three years ago through
[1:25:07] days. I was in the hundred
[1:25:08] office. This like let's to reach
[1:25:09] this and in not. Hasn't move
[1:25:14] since on and I. Mister ability I
[1:25:17] can tell some you have change
[1:25:19] your to try anti takes whatever
[1:25:21] to. They want where the market-
[1:25:23] but you know it it it makes hard
[1:25:25] to go. I'm me I want to this my
[1:25:27] this. Senator place for. Thank
[1:25:32] you. Thank you for the public
[1:25:34] comments from my call and also
[1:25:36] to the for come and speak today
[1:25:38] and express your opinion. And I
[1:25:39] also just to thank the- the
[1:25:40] author senate wiener for this
[1:25:42] bill I think. Five very much
[1:25:43] support this bill I a when I
[1:25:45] first saw it and heard the
[1:25:46] concept it seemed to make so
[1:25:49] much sense to me when I. Think
[1:25:50] about my community which I came
[1:25:51] from being the mayor of there
[1:25:52] are so many faith communities-
[1:25:54] that. Would be interested in
[1:25:55] this and they're providing a
[1:25:56] 100% affordable for their
[1:25:58] communities so it's a way to
[1:25:59] build community- from within a
[1:26:02] very local can control type of
[1:26:05] structure. And so I think when
[1:26:07] I. Think about why this is so
[1:26:09] needed it really comes back to
[1:26:10] the reality that the low housing
[1:26:12] supply in the state which is
[1:26:14] estimated to be two point five
[1:26:15] million units a million of them
[1:26:17] should be need to be affordable
[1:26:19] and the next. Eight to ten
[1:26:21] years- that that problem the low
[1:26:23] the lack of supply is really a
[1:26:25] major driver of our other
[1:26:26] problems in the state like
[1:26:29] homelessness. And a lack of
[1:26:31] upward mobility people's ability
[1:26:33] to access opportunity also- the
[1:26:36] mega commutes that then-
[1:26:38] contribute to climate change. A
[1:26:40] whole bunch of problems that
[1:26:42] really. In my mind swirl around
[1:26:45] this problem of a critically los
[1:26:47] housing supply. So when you-
[1:26:50] when this bill and you also-
[1:26:52] referred to it it could unlock
[1:26:55] thirty eight thousand acres of
[1:26:56] land. And I think that that
[1:26:58] seems like. A really tremendous
[1:27:00] potential to do a lot in our
[1:27:01] state and I'm- I go back to the-
[1:27:04] accountability and oversight
[1:27:05] hearings that we had just. Last
[1:27:07] week about it in this committee-
[1:27:10] and the reality is that housing
[1:27:13] creation remains stagnant. So
[1:27:15] even though in the state we've
[1:27:16] had some really great bills that
[1:27:18] have created streamlining. And
[1:27:19] some bright spots like the
[1:27:21] number eighty is have- gone up
[1:27:23] by a factor of ten but overall
[1:27:27] across the state the great ab
[1:27:28] show that were still. So we're
[1:27:30] real we're not making the
[1:27:31] progress we need to if we really
[1:27:33] want to- deal with homelessness
[1:27:34] in a substantive way and- and-
[1:27:37] the middle class- housing
[1:27:39] affordability crisis that we
[1:27:40] see. So I agrees my colleagues
[1:27:43] that I hope these disagreements
[1:27:44] get resolved with labor the
[1:27:46] labor factions and it's very
[1:27:48] painful- to be to be talking to
[1:27:51] your friends and- to see these
[1:27:53] disagreements and- to hope that
[1:27:55] there's a way to find that
[1:27:56] middle ground it is. Clearly
[1:27:58] true that you everybody needs to
[1:28:00] come to the table in good faith
[1:28:01] in order to find those places.
[1:28:03] but really focusing on the need
[1:28:05] for us to create the housing as
[1:28:06] a top priority and to find- fair
[1:28:10] standards that also create good
[1:28:12] jobs and allow people to access.
[1:28:14] a middle class lifestyle you
[1:28:15] know all of those things are
[1:28:16] really what we're going for I
[1:28:18] think we should all share those
[1:28:20] values. And so the question is
[1:28:21] how do we get there and hi- have
[1:28:23] every faith in all of the
[1:28:24] negotiating partners that will
[1:28:26] be able to but I also just want
[1:28:28] to say thank you and I'm excited
[1:28:30] to support this bill today.
[1:28:33] thank you- senators- breaks here
[1:28:35] I do have a couple of comments-
[1:28:38] actually more questions. I
[1:28:40] understand that we and
[1:28:41] california is one of the leading
[1:28:44] statements. California is one of
[1:28:46] the leading space when it comes
[1:28:47] to- many areas sleeper- berman
[1:28:53] to laws and you name it we have
[1:28:56] it- I had the privilege to sit
[1:28:57] on labor- committee. These past
[1:29:01] two years with center cortese.
[1:29:03] and I think popped into my head
[1:29:07] with regards to- some of the
[1:29:08] comments and concerns that we
[1:29:11] saw with bills are going to
[1:29:11] committee and- and I'm not sure
[1:29:14] if. Center to you would like to
[1:29:16] comment or not but- it was with
[1:29:18] regards to enforcement. And I
[1:29:22] know that this bill is trying to
[1:29:25] address some of these
[1:29:27] conservative from some of the
[1:29:28] safety concerns- but with
[1:29:30] regards to enforcement- how.
[1:29:35] what elements are components you
[1:29:36] have here. Yeah they've cards
[1:29:38] within that scope. Yes
[1:29:43] absolutely it we there is a in
[1:29:45] the can and with wait staff.
[1:29:47] clinical plenty of ca. That do
[1:29:50] follow the law and to the right
[1:29:51] thing for the workers they're
[1:29:53] all. We have we stuffed issues
[1:29:56] in this. And so this bill
[1:29:58] requires a payment of prevailing
[1:30:00] wage the same prevailing wage
[1:30:02] that you would get in a skilled
[1:30:04] workforce situation. Plus non
[1:30:05] health in and the other
[1:30:07] requirements- and then if there
[1:30:10] is a violation the labor
[1:30:11] commissioner tim force or the
[1:30:13] person whose. Wages of
[1:30:15] installing can enforce it- and
[1:30:18] but I also want to stress that
[1:30:19] for that enforcement sb there
[1:30:21] are this bill is voluntary.
[1:30:24] right now no one no builder a
[1:30:26] church anyone is going is
[1:30:28] required to utilize this bill if
[1:30:31] they choose to opt in and
[1:30:32] utilize a spell. And they all
[1:30:34] these provisions including
[1:30:36] enforcement- applied they. Could
[1:30:43] decide to do it. The l. Way and
[1:30:46] close to reserve infancy cal.
[1:30:46] and have a sequel los in and
[1:30:48] every else and by if they choose
[1:30:50] to do it- it'll committee or the
[1:30:53] underpaid- your- okay so the are
[1:30:56] . In there is will protect or
[1:30:57] they have recall. If something
[1:30:59] were to happen correct on that
[1:31:01] and it also allows to have
[1:31:03] options and choices for those
[1:31:05] builders for the- local. Okay so
[1:31:08] having said that. I believe we
[1:31:12] have. This will help you with
[1:31:14] like to yes sign I'd come of
[1:31:16] this. Bahrainis and secretary
[1:31:23] what to. Call the roll. Senate
[1:31:29] bill for about win the motion is
[1:31:31] to pass and river to come and
[1:31:32] governor and finance. Wiener
[1:31:34] right wiener hi the troubled by
[1:31:37] the troubled by blix. Hi click
[1:31:40] here hi caballero. Capital hi
[1:31:44] partisi partisi hi my- patea
[1:31:48] they are to. Zero two no skinner
[1:31:55] . Number bob. Bob hi. This is
[1:31:59] the world will open here we have
[1:32:02] a sixty one and we're going hold
[1:32:05] the role open for or at members.
[1:32:06] said wiener with july to with
[1:32:08] your sex bill as four three.
[1:32:10] thank you very much financial
[1:32:11] and call and thank for your- is
[1:32:13] a robust. Today I know presents
[1:32:15] in a bill for three which the
[1:32:17] sunset on well I want to tell.
[1:32:19] most successful health laws.
[1:32:20] which is senate bill thirty. And
[1:32:25] . Which is a with the for. Bill
[1:32:28] that I and to ponder sworn day I
[1:32:30] was in the- in twenty six- in
[1:32:32] this build not and way to local
[1:32:34] zoning at all. But it provides
[1:32:36] us approval. In cities are
[1:32:38] falling short of their reason
[1:32:40] housing of such goal and it
[1:32:41] doesn't by income. So you can a
[1:32:43] city becomes strained. Only in
[1:32:45] the categories where it's
[1:32:46] falling short of its goals the
[1:32:47] purpose of sb thirty five and
[1:32:49] that's also as before twenty
[1:32:51] three it's to help cities are
[1:32:53] falling short catch up and meet
[1:32:56] their- our- we've had extensive
[1:32:57] discussions today about the
[1:32:58] profound of shortage- sb thirty
[1:33:01] five- went into effect in twenty
[1:33:03] eighteen it was a slow. Start as
[1:33:05] is often the case of new housing
[1:33:07] bills- and then started
[1:33:08] accelerating almost nearly
[1:33:11] twenty thousand new homes. Have
[1:33:12] either been streamlined or I'm
[1:33:14] process to streamline under sb
[1:33:16] thirty five today hi my city of
[1:33:18] san francisco three thousand.
[1:33:20] new homes hi it's been a very
[1:33:22] successful and has dramatically
[1:33:24] reduced the approval time it is
[1:33:26] primarily. Benefitted below
[1:33:29] market rate housing about 75% of
[1:33:31] the of the units- we have- made
[1:33:36] some changes to the bill to make
[1:33:38] sure that the- mixing com
[1:33:40] element is more- successful- and
[1:33:43] so I'm sure and we just talked
[1:33:45] about some of the labor
[1:33:47] standards and perhaps a little
[1:33:47] stunned. Again so colleagues- sb
[1:33:52] thirty five is a it really is I
[1:33:54] think one of our bedrock housing
[1:33:55] laws that expires in a couple
[1:33:57] years we want to remove the
[1:33:58] sunset. Now because people were.
[1:34:02] cities and builders planned
[1:34:03] years in advance- and we don't
[1:34:06] want to wait until the last
[1:34:08] minute. To decide if this bill
[1:34:10] is going to expire that would be
[1:34:11] harmful to the bility of cities
[1:34:12] and builders- to plan five as
[1:34:16] with the last bill- we've
[1:34:18] already had some conversations.
[1:34:26] with the building trades about
[1:34:27] with his bob dot two meetings so
[1:34:30] far. Continue to hope that we be
[1:34:31] able to get to a road. And I
[1:34:33] respect ask. For your I. Boats.
[1:34:36] with you today- tested and- his
[1:34:38] brown solving off of new cal
[1:34:40] carp union. And- you my open
[1:34:42] president of novan about.
[1:34:44] development thank you. Thank you
[1:34:46] senator wiener now move on to
[1:34:49] would and- or I get afternoon
[1:34:50] chair in committee member.
[1:34:51] honored to be here today-
[1:34:53] strongly should- senate bill
[1:34:55] twenty. You know we arts talk
[1:34:56] about a lot we are a serious.
[1:34:58] that housing production- instead
[1:35:01] . I know secret about that at
[1:35:02] every income level what's going
[1:35:04] on at the end house what's going
[1:35:06] a lack workforce housing
[1:35:07] affordable housing but a housing
[1:35:09] and all income levels. There's
[1:35:10] another crisis going on in
[1:35:14] residential. We look at the
[1:35:14] residential industry primarily
[1:35:16] what frame multi family type
[1:35:18] three if you like construction
[1:35:19] the type house we mostly need
[1:35:22] produced. There's over three
[1:35:23] hundred thousand nonunion
[1:35:24] workers in. That work force
[1:35:29] currently. And they are
[1:35:30] exploited talking a little bit.
[1:35:32] and that work force- is not been
[1:35:34] organized we intend to go out
[1:35:37] and with the tools- in this bill
[1:35:39] has the strongest labor
[1:35:40] enforcement language. Of any
[1:35:42] bill we can find or any law
[1:35:44] throughout the county country so
[1:35:45] subtly pervading wages health
[1:35:47] care requirements opportunity
[1:35:49] for friendship but also the
[1:35:50] strongest labor force language
[1:35:51] empowering labor management
[1:35:52] committees to bring justice to
[1:35:54] those jobs. The reality is-
[1:35:57] right now only one in seven
[1:35:59] traits workers in the state of
[1:36:01] california qualify under skilled
[1:36:02] and trained in the residential
[1:36:04] industry. Maybe one in ten and
[1:36:07] of your large residential
[1:36:08] projects so this is not from
[1:36:11] more the carpenters are coming
[1:36:12] from some by having a fight.
[1:36:14] with anyone in the labor
[1:36:15] movement it's about those
[1:36:17] workers out there and it's about
[1:36:18] production- sb thirty five
[1:36:20] itself very successful bill
[1:36:21] shows a clearly. The primary
[1:36:23] success sb thirty five required
[1:36:25] prevailing wages to be paid for
[1:36:27] affordable housing production
[1:36:29] below market rate production-
[1:36:31] currently there are. Maybe one
[1:36:33] or two projects will require
[1:36:34] skilled and trained but nothing
[1:36:35] is moved yet no housing is
[1:36:37] happen. So again when it comes
[1:36:40] down to it what we're looking at
[1:36:41] is we will not support any labor
[1:36:46] . Stance refill our scrushy
[1:36:47] neri. We have every into with
[1:36:49] the it's our prime purpose as a
[1:36:50] labor organization construction
[1:36:51] to reach out and help those
[1:36:52] workers pull up into the union
[1:36:55] flag family. We see that
[1:36:57] strongly as pro labor pro union
[1:37:00] standards that are also pro
[1:37:02] housing production again in an
[1:37:04] industry. Than unfortunately
[1:37:07] overall has been ignored. The
[1:37:09] carpenters union is actually the
[1:37:11] largest footprint many labor
[1:37:12] union in the residential
[1:37:14] industry- we have a third of the
[1:37:16] registered apprentices out
[1:37:17] there. And overall all crafts we
[1:37:20] have the most amount skilled and
[1:37:21] trained certified workers it's
[1:37:23] easy to track the numbers- you
[1:37:26] know through elam to send
[1:37:27] everything else but also can the
[1:37:29] d. A. S. Graduation rates so
[1:37:30] again we are absolutely all in.
[1:37:33] for apprenticeship an
[1:37:33] opportunity. But those workers
[1:37:36] that are out there now and we do
[1:37:37] need to increase the work force
[1:37:39] upwards eighty thousand workers
[1:37:40] per year so we not only need the
[1:37:42] current nine you workforce
[1:37:43] residential. We need to grow
[1:37:45] that and grow opportunity. But
[1:37:47] we cannot leave that work force
[1:37:49] out and we need to produce
[1:37:50] housing fast. So with the
[1:37:53] platforms to go out bring
[1:37:55] workers rights on those jobs.
[1:37:56] and grow its the organizing
[1:37:58] opportunity of a lifetime for
[1:38:00] any labor organization. Again
[1:38:02] whether be vying to ensure not
[1:38:04] skilled and trained will exclude
[1:38:06] those dire work for workers and
[1:38:08] will actually screwed about a
[1:38:10] hundred thousand. Union members
[1:38:11] currently in the state of
[1:38:12] california we can't afford that.
[1:38:14] so we appreciate your support on
[1:38:16] this. Remember those workers
[1:38:17] remember we need for you to
[1:38:18] housing to bring solutions to
[1:38:20] our state we strongly support
[1:38:23] this bill thank you. Thank you
[1:38:25] sir. Do you have any other. With
[1:38:26] assistance. Yes coming forward.
[1:38:37] good afternoon senate housing
[1:38:39] committee and senator wiener
[1:38:40] thank you for the opportunity
[1:38:41] speech today my name is the mon
[1:38:43] novin I am the president and
[1:38:45] founder of novan development. We
[1:38:47] are a mission driven affordable
[1:38:48] and workforce housing developer
[1:38:51] I'm in the state of california
[1:38:53] we've got approximately fourteen
[1:38:55] projects in over six hundred
[1:38:56] units in the pipeline- serving a
[1:38:58] broad range of incomes. I
[1:39:00] created a novin developments- to
[1:39:03] focus on missing middle housing
[1:39:04] workforce housing is we're very
[1:39:06] much interested in figuring out
[1:39:07] how to make mixed income work as
[1:39:09] you know mostly bills and-
[1:39:11] funding is focused on very low
[1:39:13] and low income housing however
[1:39:14] the majority of our population
[1:39:15] is in the missing middle and so-
[1:39:18] were very keenly aware of the
[1:39:19] of. Sb thirty five reviews it on
[1:39:21] two projects- and neither of
[1:39:24] them would have been approved
[1:39:25] without sb thirty five in fact
[1:39:27] we had a- council members- in a
[1:39:30] political environment- working
[1:39:33] to- use a small you know section
[1:39:36] of the bill that allows for a
[1:39:38] council oversight hearing. To
[1:39:40] basically over derail our
[1:39:41] project and stop it from getting
[1:39:43] approved- and so it wasn't it
[1:39:45] was with the help of the
[1:39:47] carpenters union. Him be law.
[1:39:49] act's housing accountability
[1:39:51] unit and sb thirty five that we
[1:39:53] eventually. Got housing approved
[1:39:56] on a site that was entitled for
[1:39:58] housing- so it's a very useful
[1:40:00] building wouldn't who are
[1:40:01] projects would have happened
[1:40:02] without it- it was through this
[1:40:04] implementation that it revealed
[1:40:05] some of the challenges and I
[1:40:07] think some of the improvements
[1:40:09] in sb thirty five- particularly
[1:40:11] around the use for mixed. Income
[1:40:13] housing the labor standards as
[1:40:14] written or more stringent for.
[1:40:17] mixed income projects were let's
[1:40:18] say only half of the project is
[1:40:20] receiving state subsidy. The
[1:40:22] other half is privately finance
[1:40:23] and- labor standards are way
[1:40:25] more difficult to meet so it it
[1:40:27] naturally moves people or
[1:40:29] developers into. Bill building a
[1:40:32] 100% affordable housing projects
[1:40:33] because- you're able to leverage
[1:40:38] . The funding for the entire.
[1:40:39] and the cost is lower and so-
[1:40:41] the whole heartedly agreed
[1:40:42] senator cortese there should be
[1:40:43] a single standard across- this
[1:40:45] bill for whether it's mixed
[1:40:47] income or- if it's a 100%
[1:40:50] affordable housing project I
[1:40:51] think that'll- help to
[1:40:52] streamlining create. Missing
[1:40:54] middle housing because it's not
[1:40:55] an either or it's an anti and we
[1:40:57] need. A deeply affordable
[1:40:59] housing but we also need missing
[1:41:01] middle housing- other challenges
[1:41:03] that the council oversight
[1:41:04] hearing I think this makes some
[1:41:06] great changes to that- so it's
[1:41:07] not misused- and then the fact
[1:41:10] that it streamlines the print
[1:41:11] versions permanently so that we
[1:41:13] have access to the streamlined
[1:41:14] process beyond twenty twenty
[1:41:17] five is a critical changes that
[1:41:19] we support- ultimately sb. Four
[1:41:21] twenty three also replaces
[1:41:23] restrictive hiring rules with
[1:41:24] high road labor standards for
[1:41:26] all construction workers- and-
[1:41:31] again you know I think- our
[1:41:33] example of our project- the
[1:41:35] skilled and trained workforce
[1:41:36] requirements. Really didn't work
[1:41:39] out and we had to take a project
[1:41:40] that started out as fifty fifty
[1:41:42] affordable housing and turn it
[1:41:44] into a 100% affordable housing
[1:41:46] project- total timidly make it.
[1:41:47] viable so with that- again
[1:41:51] strongly urge you to support-
[1:41:53] this bill today and- happy to
[1:41:56] take any questions thank you for
[1:41:57] your time. Thank you very much
[1:42:00] we're going to hear from
[1:42:03] witnesses in support here in
[1:42:05] room. Twelve hundred. Madam
[1:42:11] chair scott cover about half of
[1:42:12] the construction employers
[1:42:14] association in support thank you
[1:42:17] . Okay I'm terry members karen
[1:42:19] laying on behalf of san
[1:42:20] francisco mayor london breed in
[1:42:22] support thank you. Medicare's
[1:42:25] members michael gunning with
[1:42:26] light house publication airs. On
[1:42:28] behalf was for habitat for
[1:42:30] humanity sand hill property's
[1:42:32] build costs said united way
[1:42:34] greater la thank you. Says
[1:42:38] rodriguez- we need housing now a
[1:42:40] carpenters local one fifty two
[1:42:42] member- I live in stockton
[1:42:45] california selma king county. I
[1:42:47] am since support of sb four two
[1:42:51] three thank you. Good afternoon
[1:42:55] my name is laura drastic I'm a
[1:42:57] field representative I'm out of
[1:42:59] the nor cal carpenters union I
[1:43:01] am also proud member of local.
[1:43:04] union four oh five san jose
[1:43:05] california I am is in support of
[1:43:09] four to three. For dr
[1:43:12] sharecroppers local six oh five
[1:43:13] out of monterey county I'm here
[1:43:15] in support of- s. B. Thirty
[1:43:18] forty three thanks very much.
[1:43:21] number matthew miller marco
[1:43:23] carpenters- member. Local ninety
[1:43:26] sixty livermore I live in
[1:43:27] burlingame in minnesota and we
[1:43:29] need affordable housing on the
[1:43:31] peninsula I'm from. I'm fortune
[1:43:34] to live on the peninsula my
[1:43:36] brothers and sisters cannot
[1:43:37] afford to live up there thank
[1:43:39] you. Venture it happens
[1:43:43] carpenters local two seventeen
[1:43:45] nor cal carpenters union we
[1:43:46] represents san matteo county and
[1:43:48] we are in strong support of
[1:43:51] senate bill four twenty three
[1:43:52] thank you for. Good afternoon
[1:43:56] d'amico's carpenters local seven
[1:43:59] fifty one addison- my county
[1:44:00] base there and- representing
[1:44:03] their members and- we are in
[1:44:04] strong support of sb four twenty
[1:44:08] three thank you. Good afternoon
[1:44:12] show majority companies local
[1:44:14] twenty two business agents are
[1:44:16] francisco- northcutt carpenters
[1:44:17] union clout I stand in support
[1:44:20] of- for twenty three thank you.
[1:44:25] good afternoon my name's kyle
[1:44:26] swarms of a member of local
[1:44:28] forty six from a representative
[1:44:29] of carpenters local seven fifty
[1:44:32] one thirty five one eighty. And
[1:44:34] one fifty to cover members up in
[1:44:35] humboldt ollie north of san
[1:44:37] francisco and I'm here in favor
[1:44:39] of sp four twenty three thank
[1:44:41] you. Abram d. As a ten ph and
[1:44:45] speak on behalf of my colleagues
[1:44:47] at all home in the silicon
[1:44:48] valley home action fun in strong
[1:44:50] support of this before twenty
[1:44:51] three. Alex revell equipment and
[1:44:55] housing regional for the housing
[1:44:57] developer we're in support of sb
[1:44:59] four twenty three. Selecting
[1:45:04] with the silicon valley
[1:45:05] leadership group in support. By
[1:45:07] the merging with inner city law
[1:45:08] center where skid row's pro bono
[1:45:10] legal service fighter we serve
[1:45:12] folks for homeless and at risk
[1:45:14] of homelessness we are very
[1:45:14] proud to support and sponsor sb
[1:45:18] four twenty three. Brian shields
[1:45:21] power drivers local thirty four
[1:45:23] cover not northern forty six
[1:45:24] counties- probably support sb
[1:45:27] forty three. Madam chair members
[1:45:32] of the committee your then put
[1:45:33] in a kind of a hard a proc I'm
[1:45:36] happy california b. As a proud
[1:45:37] co sponsor in support of sb four
[1:45:40] twenty three thank you so much.
[1:45:45] hello again of two religious
[1:45:46] covers local twenty to thirty
[1:45:48] six out of oakland. Strong
[1:45:50] support of this bill thank you.
[1:45:55] good afternoon shawn he by proud
[1:45:56] member of no cal carpenters
[1:45:57] union five oh five in santa cruz
[1:45:59] santa cruz county in strong
[1:46:00] support of us before. Twenty
[1:46:06] three. Good afternoon chair hang
[1:46:07] committee members my name's john
[1:46:09] bill perry of member of
[1:46:10] carpenters local one eighty in
[1:46:12] solano county a resident of fact
[1:46:14] will strongly support this. Bill
[1:46:16] for twenty three thank. Susan
[1:46:21] setter home a member of san
[1:46:22] francisco you me and a resident
[1:46:25] of low income supportive housing
[1:46:27] . And a mother of millennial
[1:46:29] trying to find housing in san
[1:46:31] jose I strongly support this.
[1:46:35] wearing a white with the
[1:46:36] california housing consortium
[1:46:37] proud to be a co sponsor of this
[1:46:39] critical piece of legislation
[1:46:40] urge your support today. Hello
[1:46:43] sam awesome executive director
[1:46:45] of mission housing development
[1:46:45] corporation a nonprofit
[1:46:47] affordable housing developer I'm
[1:46:48] here representing bridge housing
[1:46:50] mercy housing the tenderloin
[1:46:52] housing clinic john stewart
[1:46:53] corporation we are in strong
[1:46:55] support among us we have
[1:46:56] delivered thousands upon
[1:46:57] thousands of affordable housing.
[1:46:59] units because of sb thirty five
[1:47:02] so please extent thank you. Hi
[1:47:05] laura foote executive director
[1:47:07] of the in the action and mom to
[1:47:09] freddie fog mas this is the
[1:47:11] first housing committee meeting-
[1:47:13] but probably not as last. And I
[1:47:15] ask you to build housing for
[1:47:17] this generation and the next
[1:47:19] one- in strong support. A
[1:47:22] little. Good afternoon sharon
[1:47:24] members jordan crimes on behalf
[1:47:25] of green built alliance for an
[1:47:27] environmental nonprofit serving
[1:47:28] the nine county bay area in
[1:47:31] strong support today thank you
[1:47:32] so much. Hello alex melendrez
[1:47:36] city of san bruno I work in the
[1:47:38] action I am also a member of
[1:47:40] peninsula for everyone I am in
[1:47:41] strong support of sb four twenty
[1:47:44] three thank you. Good afternoon
[1:47:48] alley say berman here on behalf
[1:47:50] of the housing action coalition
[1:47:52] up on it as I have and last but
[1:47:54] not least south bay m. B. Thank
[1:47:56] you so much and- in strong
[1:47:58] support of course. Good
[1:48:01] afternoon centers luis mante
[1:48:03] with bury council we represent
[1:48:04] about three hundred and thirty
[1:48:06] of the bay area's largest
[1:48:08] employers here in strong support
[1:48:10] of extending sb thirty five
[1:48:11] today thank you. Good afternoon
[1:48:14] turn members my name is rapha
[1:48:16] sonnenfeld with hot indiana and
[1:48:18] I'm here in strong support of
[1:48:20] this bill on behalf of grow the
[1:48:23] richmond. Mountain the mountain
[1:48:26] - also on forever no neighbor
[1:48:29] and insulet forever why progress
[1:48:31] in the valley san. Emb santokh
[1:48:32] in be santa rosa emb loco b. Has
[1:48:36] bay. Southside ford berman
[1:48:38] advice. And fremont for everyone
[1:48:42] thank you. Rauner let carbon
[1:48:45] local one eighty support thank
[1:48:47] you. Richard burns carpenters
[1:48:51] local two one three strong
[1:48:53] support thank you very much
[1:48:55] really appreciate your time
[1:48:56] thank you. Brian o'connell napa
[1:49:00] resident and how to radio strong
[1:49:03] support thank you. Good
[1:49:06] afternoon assembled from
[1:49:08] southwest mount states regional
[1:49:09] council carper's local seven
[1:49:11] twenty one. Look at we are
[1:49:12] california and we strongly
[1:49:13] support s. B. Four twenty three
[1:49:16] thank you. Good afternoon madam
[1:49:20] chair and committee members
[1:49:22] maria coronado live in burbank
[1:49:23] california proud member of local
[1:49:26] three two three and we're in
[1:49:27] strong support of this bill.
[1:49:30] april atkins business rep local
[1:49:32] twenty two san francisco in
[1:49:33] strong support of. Four twenty
[1:49:39] three. Anastas macfarlane coming
[1:49:40] as legal entities solano county
[1:49:41] in support of this bill thanks.
[1:49:45] good afternoon judge frawley's-
[1:49:47] president seven thirteen and
[1:49:49] we're support of s. B. Four two
[1:49:51] three thank you. Good afternoon
[1:49:55] my name said phil vice I'm a
[1:49:56] member of local twenty to thirty
[1:49:57] six out of oakland and I
[1:49:59] strongly support senate bill
[1:50:01] twenty four twenty three thank
[1:50:02] you. Good afternoon on't on when
[1:50:05] you also the corporate local
[1:50:07] seven thirteen represent alameda
[1:50:08] county and strong support the
[1:50:11] bill for twenty three. I think
[1:50:11] everyone. Good afternoon jason
[1:50:14] martinez I'm a member of local
[1:50:17] seven one for the carpenters
[1:50:18] union out of fresno and also-
[1:50:21] proud military veteran- in
[1:50:23] support of four twenty three
[1:50:25] thank you. Good afternoon my
[1:50:29] name's courtney powell and with
[1:50:31] resources for community
[1:50:32] development or a nonprofit
[1:50:33] affordable housing developer in
[1:50:36] support of sb four twenty three
[1:50:37] thanks. Good afternoon travis
[1:50:41] alexander laughter local ninety
[1:50:43] eighty three out of fresno we
[1:50:43] strongly support sb. Forty
[1:50:50] three. Good afternoon eddie luna
[1:50:51] no cup proud proud member of
[1:50:53] local carpenters local seven
[1:50:55] thirteen am pleased that the
[1:50:56] light the end of support of this
[1:51:01] bill. For twenty three. Good
[1:51:02] afternoon my name is juan
[1:51:04] espinoza I'm a proud member of
[1:51:04] nor cal carpenters local two
[1:51:07] seventeen in some until county
[1:51:08] and I'm here in strong support
[1:51:11] of s. B. Two four twenty three
[1:51:12] thank you. Five douglas leach a
[1:51:16] resident of danville in support
[1:51:20] of this bill. My name is a gable
[1:51:22] and a member of local one oh two
[1:51:24] and livermore and I we support
[1:51:27] this bill. Good afternoon my
[1:51:30] name is daniel craig a member at
[1:51:32] nor cal carpenters local twenty
[1:51:34] thirty six and oakland strongly
[1:51:36] support sb four twenty three
[1:51:37] thank you. Good evening
[1:51:41] francisco martinez- feel ripped
[1:51:43] up and local twenty to thirty
[1:51:45] six loka- carpenters covering
[1:51:47] forty six northern california
[1:51:48] counties and we in support of
[1:51:50] these bills. If made lopez
[1:51:55] resident that it gives that
[1:51:56] governmental. Level bus this
[1:51:59] bill. Marilyn shea california
[1:52:04] association of local housing
[1:52:06] finance agencies strong support
[1:52:09] . Hi katie herridge mac within
[1:52:12] ph nonprofit housing association
[1:52:14] of northern california in strong
[1:52:15] support. Rigoberto collado from
[1:52:20] us senate say california split
[1:52:22] support sb four twenty three
[1:52:25] thank. Good afternoon my name is
[1:52:30] one barbosa and I'm a field
[1:52:31] representative but local five oh
[1:52:33] five in santa cruz county coming
[1:52:35] strong support of sb four twenty
[1:52:37] three thank you. Good afternoon
[1:52:42] my name is erin had service
[1:52:43] currently at work local twenty
[1:52:45] two and services to an arms
[1:52:48] strong supporter of- for twenty
[1:52:53] four. Canister with the local
[1:52:56] nine one four four in san jose
[1:52:58] and I strongly support sb. Four
[1:53:03] twenty three. Chris martinez
[1:53:04] local fifty nine nine out of
[1:53:07] redding california and I
[1:53:08] strongly support this bill.
[1:53:11] jerry kantor be a member north
[1:53:13] cal california local forty six-
[1:53:15] and I means putting support a
[1:53:17] bath before twenty three. Some
[1:53:22] of us kids out of local four
[1:53:24] five in san jose california in
[1:53:26] strong support sb four twenty
[1:53:27] three. Giovanni are liam-
[1:53:31] resident of placerville I'm a
[1:53:33] member of sixty eight l. In
[1:53:35] oakland and I strongly support
[1:53:36] this long overdue read
[1:53:38] legislation as before twenty
[1:53:39] three. Chris palmer member local
[1:53:42] one idea below strong support of
[1:53:44] sb four twenty three. Albertans
[1:53:48] today ninety one forty four a
[1:53:51] strong supporter of for twenty
[1:53:52] three. Committee members good
[1:53:54] afternoon pedro mendes covers
[1:53:56] local twenty two I'm here in
[1:53:59] strong support this bill thanks
[1:54:01] . How does all this markle
[1:54:03] carpenters union local forty six
[1:54:05] sacramento who strong supporter
[1:54:07] of sb forty three. Tony will be
[1:54:12] california apartment association
[1:54:12] strong support thanks. Kyle
[1:54:16] patterson selfless mount states
[1:54:19] felt los angeles we're sort of
[1:54:22] strong supporter of this bill.
[1:54:24] sb. Four twenty three. Good
[1:54:29] evening committee ministry
[1:54:30] lawson from the beautiful city
[1:54:31] of long beach california local
[1:54:33] five six two wistrom please in
[1:54:35] support of his bill thank. Madam
[1:54:38] chair members to any curtain
[1:54:40] california conference of
[1:54:40] carpenters I really want you to
[1:54:42] understand that skilled and
[1:54:44] trained as it stands now with
[1:54:46] literally exclude the three
[1:54:48] hundred and thirty thousand or
[1:54:49] three over three hundred
[1:54:50] thousand nonunion construction
[1:54:52] workers and housing. And exclude
[1:54:54] significant portion of the union
[1:54:55] construction workers that are in
[1:54:57] housing it is a very complex
[1:54:58] difficult standard be happening
[1:55:01] is some questions afterwards.
[1:55:03] and we're in support of ab
[1:55:05] that's before twenty three thank
[1:55:06] you. Got little l. Richmond
[1:55:09] california residents member of
[1:55:11] carpenters local one fifty two
[1:55:13] and a researcher of housing
[1:55:15] construction labor standards for
[1:55:17] twenty years in strong support
[1:55:19] of four to three.
[1:55:30] I think you do we have any other
[1:55:33] witnesses in support of sb four
[1:55:36] twenty three hearing room twelve
[1:55:38] hundred. Seeing none will now
[1:55:40] move on to witnesses in
[1:55:42] opposition of s. B. A poor
[1:55:45] twenty three here in room twelve
[1:55:49] hundred.
[1:55:58] good afternoon madam chair
[1:56:00] committee members. My name is
[1:56:02] sabrina fernandes. I'm a native
[1:56:04] san franciscan graduates of the
[1:56:06] state approved apprenticeship
[1:56:08] training program and I'm a state
[1:56:10] certified electrician. I'm here
[1:56:12] today to speak on behalf of the
[1:56:13] california. I've been a member
[1:56:19] of my organization the
[1:56:20] international brotherhood of
[1:56:22] electrical workers for thirty
[1:56:23] five years. I served my
[1:56:24] apprenticeship and work with
[1:56:26] tools in the field for about
[1:56:28] half of my career. The other
[1:56:29] half I spent creating and
[1:56:31] directing our electrical
[1:56:32] industry cut- office of labor
[1:56:34] compliance. Well my job involves
[1:56:37] speaking with workers on public
[1:56:39] construction projects in san
[1:56:40] francisco. We're all
[1:56:45] construction workers union and
[1:56:46] nonunion. Should receive by law
[1:56:50] prevailing wages and more
[1:56:51] premises registered in state
[1:56:53] approved apprenticeship training
[1:56:54] programs are mandated the
[1:56:55] opportunity to work a percentage
[1:56:57] of hours on projects. So that
[1:56:58] they may learn their craft from
[1:57:00] experience and skilled journey
[1:57:01] persons all too often I meet
[1:57:04] workers who are unaware that
[1:57:05] they're entitled to prevailing
[1:57:06] wages workers who don't have the
[1:57:08] benefit of union representation
[1:57:10] for example. And many of whom
[1:57:12] are immigrants with limited
[1:57:13] english language skills or
[1:57:15] otherwise vulnerable. I've
[1:57:17] helped many of these folks who
[1:57:18] are too afraid to speak up about
[1:57:21] wage theft or other abuses
[1:57:22] fearful of losing their jobs.
[1:57:25] too afraid to say no. Even when
[1:57:27] asked to perform work they had
[1:57:29] no experience in. Putting their
[1:57:30] lives. And the lives of their
[1:57:34] coworkers at risk. No one can
[1:57:36] contest the wrong in subjecting
[1:57:38] workers to dangerous work
[1:57:40] they're not trained to perform.
[1:57:42] and what about the folks who
[1:57:43] occupy and use the building
[1:57:45] being built by the unskilled.
[1:57:47] whether it be a school a
[1:57:49] hospital or housing. For those
[1:57:51] building safe. I think it's an
[1:57:54] important question. I was glad
[1:57:57] when california legislators
[1:57:58] passed skilled and trained
[1:57:59] requirements for construction
[1:58:01] workers ensuring that baseline
[1:58:02] percentages of workers on public
[1:58:04] and fast track housing in
[1:58:05] california would be required to
[1:58:06] be graduates of state approved
[1:58:07] apprenticeship training
[1:58:08] programs. Or have equivalent
[1:58:11] measures of skill and experience
[1:58:13] . These programs make high skill
[1:58:15] high paying careers accessible
[1:58:16] to people of color women like me
[1:58:20] . And vulnerable folks. Like
[1:58:23] many of those I met on san
[1:58:24] francisco jobsites. People for
[1:58:26] whom skill training is the
[1:58:27] difference between fear and
[1:58:29] empowerment between being abuse
[1:58:31] worker. And being a valued
[1:58:33] worker stepping on to the path
[1:58:35] of the middle class. Sb four to
[1:58:38] three removes the requirements
[1:58:39] do you skilled and train workers
[1:58:42] and employ apprentices. Don't
[1:58:44] let exploitative profit driven
[1:58:45] developers get rich at the
[1:58:47] expense of the safety of
[1:58:48] california's construction
[1:58:49] workers. Please do not allow sb
[1:58:52] four to three to move forward
[1:58:53] unless it is amended to retain
[1:58:55] strong language mandating
[1:58:57] skilled and trained measures.
[1:58:59] california's construction work
[1:59:00] force. All of us. Deserve these
[1:59:03] protections. We urge the members
[1:59:06] of this committee to work with
[1:59:09] the same with the state building
[1:59:10] construction trades council.
[1:59:11] before the bill gets off the
[1:59:14] senate floor thank you very much
[1:59:15] for time. Madam chair members
[1:59:20] serra flocks of the california
[1:59:22] labor federation representing
[1:59:24] two million union members in the
[1:59:26] state of california. We also
[1:59:28] stand with the building trades
[1:59:29] and with my sister from the I.
[1:59:31] b. E. W. In opposing sb four
[1:59:35] twenty three unless amended. Sb
[1:59:38] thirty five was the product of
[1:59:40] extensive negotiations that
[1:59:41] resulted in allowing
[1:59:42] streamlining for projects if
[1:59:45] developers were able to meet
[1:59:47] labor standards that included
[1:59:48] the prevailing wage and a
[1:59:50] skilled and trained workforce.
[1:59:52] this ensured that workers were
[1:59:54] paid fairly but also that these
[1:59:57] projects were creating good
[1:59:59] middle class jobs. Sb four
[2:00:03] twenty three removes those labor
[2:00:04] standards for residential
[2:00:06] construction workers. We oppose
[2:00:09] this on policy but we oppose
[2:00:12] this as a matter of principle.
[2:00:14] it is unacceptable to strip
[2:00:16] labor protections and labor
[2:00:18] standards from any worker in the
[2:00:20] state of california whether
[2:00:22] they're a construction worker a
[2:00:24] nurse a teacher a firefighter a
[2:00:26] truck driver or any other.
[2:00:29] person in california who works
[2:00:32] in this state. For those reasons
[2:00:36] we must oppose this bill. As a
[2:00:38] federation of unions that
[2:00:40] represent members in every
[2:00:41] industry in the state we know
[2:00:44] that affordable housing is a
[2:00:47] priority for working
[2:00:48] californians it's a priority for
[2:00:50] our members we hear it every day
[2:00:54] . But we also know that it's not
[2:00:56] a standalone problem. The
[2:00:59] affordable housing crisis is
[2:01:01] inextricably linked to the lack
[2:01:04] of good middle class jobs we can
[2:01:07] not address one without
[2:01:08] addressing the other we cannot
[2:01:11] solve this crisis on the backs
[2:01:14] of workers it is only going to
[2:01:17] cause another crisis. It is for
[2:01:19] those reasons that we stand with
[2:01:21] our brothers and sisters and
[2:01:22] siblings in the building trades
[2:01:24] and ask that you vote no on this
[2:01:27] bill today we oppose unless
[2:01:29] amended thank you. Madam chair
[2:01:36] members jason riley california
[2:01:38] cities- we are also opposed to
[2:01:39] this measure. Madam chair and
[2:01:44] members mario you dirty of the
[2:01:45] western regional political
[2:01:47] director for unite here and the
[2:01:48] hospitality workers are here in
[2:01:50] solidarity with the building and
[2:01:51] construction trades council
[2:01:53] oppose unless amended thank you
[2:01:57] . Good afternoon my name is mark
[2:01:59] miller were for the california
[2:02:00] state building trees we
[2:02:01] represent half a million
[2:02:03] construction workers in
[2:02:04] california and we oppose this
[2:02:07] unless amended thank you. Good
[2:02:12] afternoon members because
[2:02:13] they're walking here on behalf
[2:02:13] of the two hundred thousand plus
[2:02:15] members of the california states
[2:02:16] by trade council the california
[2:02:18] state association of electrical
[2:02:19] workers the coalition of
[2:02:21] california utility employees as
[2:02:23] well as the western states
[2:02:25] council of sheet metal workers
[2:02:26] and opposition as the bill as
[2:02:28] currently constructed thank you
[2:02:31] . Hello my name is law like a
[2:02:34] steel with ibew local eleven of
[2:02:36] los angeles a representing
[2:02:37] almost twelve thousand members
[2:02:38] what we stand in solidarity with
[2:02:40] the building trades to oppose sb
[2:02:43] four twenty three unless amended
[2:02:44] thank you. Good afternoon forty
[2:02:49] senators thank you for all your
[2:02:50] work do you do for the state of
[2:02:53] california. I many payroll co
[2:02:55] monterey santa cruz county
[2:02:57] building construction trades
[2:02:58] council. We oppose four two
[2:03:02] three s. B. Forty three class
[2:03:04] fits amended we stand right with
[2:03:06] the state building trades thank
[2:03:08] you. Good afternoon sherrin guns
[2:03:12] all of it is on behalf of the
[2:03:14] cities of bakersfield corona
[2:03:16] rancho cucamonga and rancho
[2:03:18] palos verdes in opposition thank
[2:03:19] you. My name is scott reform a
[2:03:25] business agent local three nine
[2:03:27] three you way. Santa clara
[2:03:29] county san benito counties- we
[2:03:31] support the building trades an
[2:03:32] oppose unless amended. Matt
[2:03:37] brought here on behalf of the
[2:03:38] california teamsters in town in
[2:03:40] paradise in opposition thank you
[2:03:45] . Good afternoon madam chair
[2:03:46] chasing themselves representing
[2:03:48] the cities of oak grove in the
[2:03:49] walls sleek would and rancho
[2:03:52] cordova in opposition thank you
[2:03:55] . Good afternoon chair and
[2:03:56] committee members hi jonathan
[2:03:58] that representing the city of
[2:03:59] montebello- in opposition unless
[2:04:03] amended- well as amended to
[2:04:06] impose a sunset on january first
[2:04:09] twenty thirty and to x. And
[2:04:10] cd's- they are in compliance
[2:04:12] with housing element thank you.
[2:04:16] good afternoon carly shall be on
[2:04:17] behalf of the city's entries he
[2:04:19] mission viejo la habra laguna
[2:04:21] beach placentia and all marin
[2:04:22] opposition thank you. Mitchell
[2:04:26] bechtel with the discounts of
[2:04:27] ironworkers we stand state
[2:04:29] building trades in opposition
[2:04:31] unless amended thank you. An
[2:04:34] estimate on a los angeles and
[2:04:35] orange county building and
[2:04:36] construction trades council
[2:04:37] representing one hundred forty
[2:04:39] thousand hard working men and
[2:04:42] women and I stand with the state
[2:04:43] building trades in opposition to
[2:04:44] this bill. Hello my name is john
[2:04:49] hershey with united association
[2:04:50] of plumbers and pipefitters
[2:04:52] local four four seven in the
[2:04:53] sacramento region and we are
[2:04:54] oppose unless amended thank you
[2:04:58] . Good afternoon maggie with
[2:05:00] local union two to eight
[2:05:02] plumbers and pipefitters
[2:05:03] marischal california and we
[2:05:04] stand with the state building
[2:05:06] trades and oppose this bill was
[2:05:08] amended. My name's jake bash
[2:05:12] with local four four seven
[2:05:14] plumbers pipefitters and- just
[2:05:15] strongly disagree with- s. B.
[2:05:18] four twenty three thanks. My
[2:05:23] name is beau fairburn local
[2:05:25] plumbers and pipefitters four
[2:05:27] four seven apprentice we
[2:05:28] strongly oppose. I'm camera
[2:05:32] robertson- opposes will local
[2:05:36] four four seven plumbers
[2:05:37] pipefitters thank you. Good
[2:05:40] afternoon but really you want to
[2:05:42] have the state building
[2:05:42] construction trades council
[2:05:43] which is like to reiterate the
[2:05:44] comments made by my colleagues
[2:05:46] and primary testimony- we
[2:05:47] strongly oppose this bill unless
[2:05:49] amended- ask this bill seeks to
[2:05:52] provide carve outs for market
[2:05:53] rate for profit developers and
[2:05:55] rolls back labor protections we
[2:05:57] look forward to continuing
[2:05:57] discussions. With the author and
[2:06:00] the sponsors on this bill thank
[2:06:02] you very much. Good afternoon
[2:06:06] senators my name is alex lance
[2:06:07] burke research and advocacy
[2:06:09] director with the san francisco
[2:06:10] electrical construction industry
[2:06:12] in opposition for twenty three I
[2:06:15] am also a long time labor
[2:06:16] standards researcher and I've
[2:06:18] vehemently oppose the half
[2:06:19] truths and misrepresentations in
[2:06:22] testimony in support thank you.
[2:06:26] good afternoon chair members of
[2:06:28] the committee my name is josh
[2:06:30] from iran- I am the executive
[2:06:31] secretary treasure of the tri
[2:06:32] counties building and
[2:06:33] construction trades council san
[2:06:34] luis obispo santa barbara and
[2:06:36] ventura counties representing
[2:06:38] over fourteen thousand hard
[2:06:40] working skilled and trained.
[2:06:42] workers on behalf of the tri
[2:06:45] counties building construction
[2:06:46] trades council we stand with the
[2:06:48] state building and construction
[2:06:48] trades council california
[2:06:50] opposition unless amended.
[2:06:52] intended to be an extension of
[2:06:53] sb thirty five and twenty
[2:06:55] seventeen the bill eliminates
[2:06:56] the existing safety in
[2:06:57] construction training standards
[2:06:59] on housing specifically a
[2:07:00] requirement. That a small
[2:07:01] percentage of workers on the
[2:07:03] project be graduates of state
[2:07:04] approved apprenticeship
[2:07:05] programs. The labor protections
[2:07:06] in sb thirty five that were
[2:07:08] previously negotiated. Sir we
[2:07:10] don't have you has a lead
[2:07:11] witness we right now we're just
[2:07:13] taking name organization and
[2:07:15] support opposition I understood
[2:07:18] . Joshua medrano. In extreme
[2:07:21] opposition of this bill thank
[2:07:23] you thank you sir. For annika
[2:07:26] within this resident of tracy's
[2:07:28] summit mason proud member local
[2:07:31] four hundred out of san jose and
[2:07:33] I'm in a position of. S. B. Four
[2:07:36] twenty three- unless amended.
[2:07:39] thank you thank you ma'am. Do
[2:07:41] you have any other witnesses in
[2:07:43] opposition to s. B. For twenty
[2:07:47] three hearing room twelve
[2:07:49] hundred- be more thank. Kamala.
[2:07:59] all right now we will- you will
[2:08:02] now move on to witnesses we to
[2:08:03] testify be it be at the
[2:08:05] teleconference arvest. Will be
[2:08:07] limiting phone testimony to
[2:08:09] twenty minutes for all bills
[2:08:11] during this hearing. Moderator
[2:08:13] if you would please from the
[2:08:14] individuals waiting to testify
[2:08:15] in support of or opposition. Hey
[2:08:19] we will we begin. Or the vision
[2:08:23] once again if you are in port or
[2:08:25] opposition of the board the
[2:08:28] basic press one. Zero to hear a
[2:08:32] phone indicating the queue if
[2:08:33] you'll be giving. Bills notify
[2:08:38] because please ahead. Brough
[2:08:44] park we shouldn't representing
[2:08:46] teamsters local six five. Will
[2:08:48] this building tray. In op to the
[2:08:50] sp six more twenty three thank
[2:08:54] you. Next will be going to wind
[2:09:00] to nineteen please go ahead. Hi
[2:09:06] at this is there cannella kind
[2:09:07] of political director for you a
[2:09:09] local three nine green we
[2:09:10] represent thirty one hundred
[2:09:11] members are quite thirteen
[2:09:13] better hvacr technicians in
[2:09:14] santa cards have been you know
[2:09:15] county we stand with the
[2:09:17] building trades in opposition to
[2:09:20] the bill must be commended. Next
[2:09:25] we'll go to line two eighty four
[2:09:28] please go ahead. Hey. Yes it is
[2:09:39] your line is open. Dark hi I do
[2:09:41] not have a fighter the city
[2:09:43] chapel in the south finish out
[2:09:44] the in the probably fourteen at
[2:09:46] the twenty thank you. Thanks
[2:09:53] will going to one eighty six
[2:09:56] please click here. Gallagher
[2:09:57] table helping that in keeping
[2:09:59] our local. We will focus on
[2:10:04] responsible all. Have no for.
[2:10:05] that are being or approved in
[2:10:07] commitment to your skill trades
[2:10:10] . Well british product profits.
[2:10:22] what I next will go by him
[2:10:24] twenty please ahead. Thank you
[2:10:31] to. Yes to twenty year long is
[2:10:32] open. Yes name is eddie ray. Are
[2:10:34] workers local three seven seven
[2:10:35] president terms francisco
[2:10:37] resident I stand with the san
[2:10:39] francisco with the state
[2:10:40] building trades in strong
[2:10:43] opposition to sb four twenty
[2:10:45] three- the only ones that are in
[2:10:48] favor of this and are carpenters
[2:10:50] that wishes disassociated with
[2:10:53] the state building trades.
[2:10:54] please amanda thank you. Thanks
[2:11:00] for going to wind eighty nine
[2:11:02] please go ahead. Thank you.
[2:11:08] humboldt del nord building kind
[2:11:09] trades secretary treasurer we
[2:11:12] stand with the state building
[2:11:13] trades in opposition- sb four
[2:11:18] twenty three unless amended. Sh
[2:11:20] thank you. Next was going to
[2:11:27] line forty two please go ahead.
[2:11:30] good afternoon randy weber
[2:11:31] ironworkers local four sixty los
[2:11:34] angeles we stand strong in.
[2:11:37] opposition with state building
[2:11:39] trades on at four twenty three
[2:11:43] thank you for. Next will be
[2:11:48] going to line three nineteen
[2:11:50] please go ahead. All right- so
[2:11:55] we more shot at calling from los
[2:11:56] angeles what better for everyone
[2:11:58] in strong support thank you. It
[2:12:04] will be taking line three twenty
[2:12:07] one please go ahead. Good
[2:12:09] afternoon my name is nina lay
[2:12:11] bonta legislative affairs
[2:12:13] manager on behalf of the city of
[2:12:15] thousand oaks we stand and
[2:12:17] respectful opposition thank you
[2:12:21] . Thanks to go to line three
[2:12:25] eighteen please go ahead. Bob
[2:12:29] garrity from redlands and
[2:12:30] californian be calling in strong
[2:12:32] support of sb. Four two three.
[2:12:39] will be going to line to ninety
[2:12:41] one please go ahead. Assembly
[2:12:45] olympic city of beverly hills
[2:12:47] and we are opposed. Next will be
[2:12:53] going to line two nine to sixty
[2:12:56] five please go ahead. The first
[2:13:02] water bradley with building
[2:13:04] trades of the inland empire as a
[2:13:06] business manager and executive
[2:13:07] secretary we are strongly
[2:13:09] opposed to this bill and- your
[2:13:14] your rest your day. Thank you
[2:13:17] now we will go to line number
[2:13:19] two sixty seven please go ahead
[2:13:23] . Our carpenters local fifty
[2:13:27] eight ninety nine shasta county
[2:13:28] california. We are in strong
[2:13:29] support of s. B. To- thank you
[2:13:34] will go to the line to forty six
[2:13:36] please go ahead. Hello my name
[2:13:41] is brian pours out made business
[2:13:43] agent for you a local three nine
[2:13:45] three representing over thirty
[2:13:46] one hundred plumbers pipefitters
[2:13:47] steam fitters and hvac our
[2:13:49] service technicians in santa
[2:13:50] clarendon of counties- today I'm
[2:13:52] calling in standing in
[2:13:53] solidarity with the building
[2:13:55] trades council. And strongly
[2:13:57] oppose sb four twenty three
[2:14:00] thank you very top. Thank you my
[2:14:02] number. To eight eight nine two
[2:14:09] eighty eight. Barbara the field
[2:14:09] representative local carpenters
[2:14:10] union number at two seventeen
[2:14:12] foster city california. A strong
[2:14:14] supporter of sb four twenty
[2:14:16] three thank you all for time.
[2:14:18] thank you my number. Two ninety
[2:14:25] four. The representative. United
[2:14:29] seven thirty element county not
[2:14:31] showing support the bill. Thank
[2:14:34] you. Thank you my number two
[2:14:39] three two. I am. Many observers
[2:14:42] okot. I'm a resident of la okay
[2:14:46] . Immigrants at- covers local
[2:14:49] one eighty coverage solano
[2:14:50] county and I strongly support
[2:14:51] this bill sb four twenty three
[2:14:55] thank you. Thank you will go to
[2:14:58] the line number forty seven. In
[2:15:02] the blighted styles- the
[2:15:04] presiding over a thousand
[2:15:05] members of local three ninety
[2:15:07] plumbers painters welders. Joint
[2:15:10] the state building trades in
[2:15:11] opposition of. S. B. For twenty
[2:15:15] three thank you. Thank you next
[2:15:19] we'll go to line number three
[2:15:20] twenty five. Hello carol cannot
[2:15:24] find the business manager of the
[2:15:25] san diego county building and
[2:15:27] construction trades council and
[2:15:28] also the ceo of the s. U. V. G.
[2:15:30] the family housing corporation
[2:15:32] and we are in strong opposition.
[2:15:34] of sb. Four twenty three unless
[2:15:39] amended thank you. Thank you my
[2:15:41] number. One fifty seven. Hi my
[2:15:45] name is contacted what the pain
[2:15:48] is an allocate- mister. Opposed
[2:15:50] of sb four twenty three thank
[2:15:54] you. Thank you my number. One
[2:16:00] fifty six. Hi this is david the
[2:16:02] better with the painters and
[2:16:03] allied trades district council
[2:16:05] thirty six local thirteen ninety
[2:16:06] nine. And we're going to be
[2:16:07] supporting the state building
[2:16:09] trades in opposition s. B. Where
[2:16:11] opposing sorry opposition sb.
[2:16:17] four twenty three. Thank you we
[2:16:19] will go to line number. Three
[2:16:24] thirty. One eighteen I stand
[2:16:26] with the state building trades
[2:16:27] in opposition of this bill must
[2:16:30] imagine thank you. Thank you
[2:16:31] will now go to line number two
[2:16:34] twenty six. Good afternoon chen
[2:16:38] members eric turner on behalf of
[2:16:40] the town of apple valley
[2:16:41] respectfully in opposition.
[2:16:45] thank you my number. One forty
[2:16:50] one. Right after the automated
[2:16:53] allocate- opposed. The four
[2:16:57] twenty three you. Next to line
[2:17:00] number for five. Hi my name is
[2:17:04] rachel shoemaker by b. W. Three
[2:17:06] oh two representing over one
[2:17:08] thousand three hundred electoral
[2:17:09] workers in contra costa county
[2:17:11] we've been solidarity with the
[2:17:12] state building trades in
[2:17:13] opposition of sb four twenty
[2:17:14] three ellis amended. We need to
[2:17:16] invest in our friendship some
[2:17:17] promote skilled and trained
[2:17:18] language which helps protect all
[2:17:20] construction workers from
[2:17:22] exploitation thank you. Thank
[2:17:25] you next a bottle line number
[2:17:26] two- oh six. My number two oh
[2:17:35] six your line is open. Yeah
[2:17:38] martin rodriguez I will be for
[2:17:41] thirty three I stand in
[2:17:42] opposition of this bill. In
[2:17:45] solitary with state building
[2:17:47] trades unless amended. Thank you
[2:17:50] my number. Three forty four.
[2:17:56] follow maldonado. The mobile
[2:17:59] originally from about california
[2:18:01] center by area I. And- and off
[2:18:05] on behalf of the your email-
[2:18:08] according to reports twenty
[2:18:10] three. Thank you and idiot and a
[2:18:15] . Thank you to a court of number
[2:18:19] thirty two. Hi open shallow and
[2:18:20] mark panel in the home
[2:18:23] representing hundreds of people
[2:18:25] and. For twenty three twenty
[2:18:30] third housing and thanks for all
[2:18:31] your hard work kushida. Thank
[2:18:33] you by number. One twenty five.
[2:18:40] yes transaction. Three seventy
[2:18:42] eight stand with the building
[2:18:43] changed in opposition of. S. B.
[2:18:48] twenty three dollars. Thank you
[2:18:51] my number. Fifty four. My number
[2:18:59] fifty for your line is open.
[2:19:04] okay we'll move on to the next
[2:19:05] next nine three hundred please
[2:19:08] go ahead. My name is larry
[2:19:11] mazzola. Business manager you a
[2:19:13] local thirty eight plumbers and
[2:19:15] pipefitters and sam sisco mall
[2:19:16] for the president the same
[2:19:18] system building construction
[2:19:19] trades council. A deep entire
[2:19:22] building trade up and down
[2:19:23] california strongly opposes
[2:19:26] ripping strong labor standards
[2:19:28] out of this bill please close.
[2:19:32] thank you next to- to line
[2:19:33] numbers thirty four please go
[2:19:35] ahead. My number thirty for your
[2:19:43] line is open. Hello this is
[2:19:47] ricky owens logistics. Six nine.
[2:19:51] empire state building trains.
[2:19:53] and oppose. Or. Twenty three.
[2:19:58] thank you y. Number thirty seven
[2:20:00] please go ahead. My number
[2:20:08] thirty seven your line is open.
[2:20:11] yes this is joseph parker. Local
[2:20:14] six six nine organizer and we
[2:20:15] stand with the state building
[2:20:17] trades in oppose this bill.
[2:20:19] thank you next to a bottom line
[2:20:22] number one eighty nine. Hi my
[2:20:25] name is public war- volunteer
[2:20:27] with california yimby- calling
[2:20:30] in strong support. Thank you
[2:20:35] spline number. Ninety nine. My
[2:20:44] number ninety nine your line is
[2:20:45] open. Okay we will go to the
[2:20:51] next line of sixty one please go
[2:20:54] ahead. In your- go ahead. John
[2:21:04] henry lopez with you a local two
[2:21:07] four six palmer's implies that
[2:21:08] there's representing fresno
[2:21:09] madera tulare kings county and
[2:21:11] we stand in solidarity with the
[2:21:13] state building trades in
[2:21:14] opposition of sb. Four twenty
[2:21:17] three months amended thank you.
[2:21:19] thank you mexico line number.
[2:21:25] one thirty five. Hi can you hear
[2:21:26] me. We can hear you go head.
[2:21:29] right dillon at lee eng
[2:21:31] councilmember with blocks also
[2:21:34] and I'd like to register my
[2:21:35] opposition sb four twenty three
[2:21:39] it I don't think you realize
[2:21:41] the- legal liability system
[2:21:45] poses on cities thank you. Thank
[2:21:47] you next to a photo line number
[2:21:50] three thirty one. The to the ibm
[2:21:54] application global california
[2:21:56] inside los angeles in opposition
[2:21:58] to people three thank you. Thank
[2:22:02] you next to a photo line number
[2:22:04] three fourteen please go ahead.
[2:22:08] cool organizer you a large local
[2:22:12] citrix nine. Senate opposition.
[2:22:18] twenty three okay real feel in
[2:22:20] train. Thank you next week
[2:22:26] bottle numbers oh please go
[2:22:28] ahead. Good afternoon madam vice
[2:22:31] chair member run dickens on
[2:22:32] behalf of some well. The local
[2:22:34] guy commission in support thank
[2:22:37] you. Thank you next to a photo
[2:22:40] line number. Two seventy one. Hi
[2:22:44] this is rob nielsen from
[2:22:46] peninsula for everyone calling
[2:22:48] in support of our state four two
[2:22:51] three thank you. Next we'll go
[2:22:55] to line number eighty please go
[2:22:56] ahead. Good afternoon position
[2:23:00] in boston businessman group
[2:23:01] formed by bitter cold four eight
[2:23:04] four we stand with the state
[2:23:06] building trades in strong
[2:23:07] opposition to s. B. Four twenty
[2:23:10] three unless amended. Thank you
[2:23:14] . Thank you next to a line
[2:23:16] number. Two seventy six. Matt
[2:23:21] kelly covers local forty six
[2:23:22] calling in strong support of sb
[2:23:26] four twenty three skilled and
[2:23:26] trained building no units of
[2:23:28] housing thank you. Thank you
[2:23:31] next to a line number two
[2:23:34] seventy seven. Hello my name is
[2:23:37] patricia rumors another local
[2:23:39] fall fired in a much strong
[2:23:41] support sb four twenty three
[2:23:44] thank you. I next to record a
[2:23:49] line number. Two ninety five.
[2:23:51] good afternoon brandon the
[2:23:52] member a local force former
[2:23:54] spectators and- the service I
[2:23:57] join the state bill trades
[2:23:59] strong opposition of at four
[2:24:02] twenty three. Thank you. Thank
[2:24:05] you we will to one number three
[2:24:09] all. Four my number four. Yes
[2:24:15] good afternoon this is one the
[2:24:17] biggest. Carpenters local seven
[2:24:19] oh one and fresno I'm in strong
[2:24:22] support of fat beats for twenty
[2:24:23] three. Thank you next we will go
[2:24:27] to line number forty please go
[2:24:29] ahead. By number. Forty okay
[2:24:39] we'll move on to the next number
[2:24:41] of. Three thirty three. Three
[2:24:49] thirty within a- this is ryan
[2:24:49] medical center emb in strong
[2:24:51] support of sb four twenty fifty
[2:24:53] thank you. Next we will go to
[2:24:58] line number three twenty seven.
[2:25:00] good afternoon my name is jason
[2:25:02] pierce I'm a member in a field
[2:25:04] rep of carpenters local seven
[2:25:06] fifty one of the humble county.
[2:25:08] strong supporter of sb four
[2:25:10] twenty three thank you. Thank
[2:25:13] you next will. Three forty five.
[2:25:20] what carper's local seventeen
[2:25:22] eighty nine in strong support of
[2:25:24] sb four twenty three. Hi one. My
[2:25:29] number. Two seventy three. Good
[2:25:34] afternoon my name's steve ayers
[2:25:35] carpenters local seven fifty one
[2:25:37] strong supporter of it b. For
[2:25:41] twenty three. Thank you thanks
[2:25:43] to a vocal line number three
[2:25:45] twenty. My number three twenty.
[2:25:52] hello go ahead. My name is no
[2:25:58] the lander of part of the- two
[2:26:01] seventeen carper's union. County
[2:26:03] and I'm a strong supporter of sb
[2:26:08] four twenty three. Thank you
[2:26:08] next we'll go to line number.
[2:26:15] fifty eight. Hi this is regina
[2:26:16] alafia with ibew local five nine
[2:26:19] five representing nearly twenty
[2:26:23] five hundred electric workers in
[2:26:24] alameda county. Filmmaking
[2:26:24] county and calaveras county and
[2:26:26] week I'm calling in solitary
[2:26:29] solidarity with the state
[2:26:30] building trades in opposition-
[2:26:32] of commended to senate bill four
[2:26:36] twenty three thank you. I thank
[2:26:38] you we will go to line number
[2:26:41] three eleven. The new went into
[2:26:45] susan eggman carpenters union
[2:26:47] local five zero five in santa
[2:26:50] cruz county and I strongly
[2:26:51] support as before twenty three
[2:26:52] thank you. Thank you. Thanks we
[2:26:55] will go to my number. Two fifty
[2:27:00] six. Hi my name is ron finley
[2:27:01] I'm and local. Ninety one oh
[2:27:05] nine drywall laughter's fact
[2:27:06] only. Christian programs top
[2:27:07] notch training first aid cpr and
[2:27:10] when they're walking the job
[2:27:12] sector proficient in the job
[2:27:14] they're hired for I'm in support
[2:27:17] for sb four twenty three. Thank
[2:27:20] you next to a photo line number
[2:27:25] . Three sixteen. Hello my name
[2:27:26] is a victim of billion a
[2:27:28] carpenter with local seven fifty
[2:27:29] one and sonoma county all
[2:27:30] carpenters up and down all of
[2:27:32] california is very much in
[2:27:33] support of s. B. Four twenty
[2:27:36] three thank you. Thank you next
[2:27:39] to a photo line number. One
[2:27:48] sixty seven. My number one sixty
[2:27:50] seven. We will move on to line
[2:27:55] number one now- nine one oh nine
[2:27:59] . Hi my name is sean kyle with
[2:28:01] ibew five nine five in dublin
[2:28:05] california we represent twenty
[2:28:07] five hundred electric workers
[2:28:08] alameda san joaquin calaveras
[2:28:09] county as- we stand with state
[2:28:12] building trades. In opposition.
[2:28:15] sb four two three thank you.
[2:28:18] thank you next to a photo line
[2:28:20] number three fifty please go
[2:28:22] ahead. My name is lisa dance
[2:28:25] with fremont for everyone and we
[2:28:27] proudly support sb four twenty
[2:28:31] three. Thank you. We'll go to
[2:28:35] line number one eleven. His
[2:28:39] excellency with iron workers
[2:28:41] local three seventy eight we
[2:28:43] stand with the state building
[2:28:44] and construction trade an oppose
[2:28:47] unless amended thank you. Thank
[2:28:50] you next to line number three
[2:28:54] four. Hello I would martin
[2:28:55] lawrence summer to do no harm
[2:28:57] and long last report. Thank you
[2:29:06] next we record line them two now
[2:29:07] said the matter motor either
[2:29:10] this will our last- witness via
[2:29:12] the telecom- we have reached our
[2:29:17] . Twenty okay number. Two ninety
[2:29:22] six. Right field rep corporate
[2:29:22] local two skin pools of s. Forty
[2:29:26] three let's build housing. Thank
[2:29:29] you. Thank you. Thank you
[2:29:34] matamata. And think you to all
[2:29:36] our super and opposite witness
[2:29:38] will bring that is back to the
[2:29:39] main. No senator burke he had a
[2:29:42] question five thank you madam
[2:29:43] chair- certainly this is an
[2:29:43] illustration of conflicting
[2:29:44] values the value the many of us
[2:29:47] hold to ensure that the work
[2:29:49] force is skilled and trained
[2:29:50] versus the value of creating
[2:29:51] more affordable housing- I'm
[2:29:53] going to support the bill- it's
[2:29:56] going to make it. Long I hope
[2:29:57] not terribly torturous journey
[2:29:59] here to legislature but- I'm
[2:30:02] gonna ask you if you are also
[2:30:05] committed to trying to reconcile
[2:30:07] those two values as it moves
[2:30:08] forward. So if the question is
[2:30:11] am I committed to working with
[2:30:13] the opposition to try to come to
[2:30:15] a resolution on this 1100%
[2:30:17] absolutely as I said earlier it
[2:30:19] takes two to tango. But
[2:30:21] absolutely what what one can I
[2:30:23] do wanna say center but- I'd I
[2:30:25] don't think it's accurate to
[2:30:27] suggest that this fight is
[2:30:30] about- about skilled. Labor
[2:30:31] verses affordable housing the
[2:30:34] language that we have in this
[2:30:36] bill- it died it requires very
[2:30:39] significant labor protections
[2:30:41] and that these are not on
[2:30:41] skilled. Workers it requires.
[2:30:47] effort sort of team workers out
[2:30:48] of. Internship program I'm sure
[2:30:50] that- can talk about how does
[2:30:51] that this is it is a false
[2:30:54] narrative. To say that this is
[2:30:55] gonna be on qualified unskilled
[2:30:57] untrained construction workers
[2:30:59] versus skilled construction
[2:31:00] workers these are different
[2:31:02] labor standards this is.
[2:31:03] replacing one set of labor
[2:31:04] standards with a different set
[2:31:06] of labor standards- and the
[2:31:08] carpenters can explain why it
[2:31:09] will cover many many more.
[2:31:11] construction workers but yes we
[2:31:13] absolutely I'm on my door is
[2:31:15] perpetually open- and my hope is
[2:31:18] to resolve this it's not a fight
[2:31:20] the fight is. As unpleasant for
[2:31:22] me as it is for anyone else but
[2:31:24] I do want to make that one
[2:31:25] clarification thank you center
[2:31:26] where I'm gonna focus on last
[2:31:28] thirty seconds of your answer.
[2:31:31] thank you. Thank you senator
[2:31:32] number I know kelly said keep a
[2:31:35] r. To that's fine you. So do you
[2:31:38] notice several cities in n. And
[2:31:39] their- and their opposition I
[2:31:42] think revolves around. Of the
[2:31:44] fact that- dave really been
[2:31:46] struggling with a cd and getting
[2:31:49] their housing elements approved
[2:31:51] and then we- piled on apr- as a
[2:31:55] method of. Disallowing them to
[2:31:58] that have been approved. Housing
[2:32:01] element or have it in compliance
[2:32:04] they could say. And so what this
[2:32:06] does is it gives a cd that with
[2:32:08] the power over them to.
[2:32:09] basically stripped the rights
[2:32:11] away- by not processing in time
[2:32:15] in a timely fashion which is
[2:32:16] been there their big complaint-
[2:32:18] we've heard a little bit from h.
[2:32:20] c. D. That no no it's the
[2:32:22] cities. Well you know there's
[2:32:24] two hundred cities out there
[2:32:25] were more there's actually three
[2:32:27] hundred and eighty three- trying
[2:32:29] to get. In compliance with their
[2:32:32] housing elements so that they
[2:32:33] can deal with the new members
[2:32:36] the rain and numbers that have
[2:32:37] come out. And until that
[2:32:39] disconnect is fixed so that
[2:32:41] there's actually a better
[2:32:42] process for them to get their
[2:32:44] housing element approved hard
[2:32:46] for me to give. An extension in
[2:32:49] time to process it's kind of
[2:32:51] broken right now I'd like to see
[2:32:53] that process addressed- before
[2:32:56] we go on and give an extension
[2:32:58] to an already broken process.
[2:32:59] it's easy for cities that got
[2:33:02] sixty five units. Of affordable
[2:33:04] housing. Put in as their arena
[2:33:07] number but the ones who got
[2:33:10] three thousand to four thousand
[2:33:11] units. Going to be impossible
[2:33:12] for them to do that and housing
[2:33:14] elements don't just get produced
[2:33:15] overnight. You can do in a week
[2:33:18] you can do you can barely do in
[2:33:20] two years. And so that's what
[2:33:22] they're struggling with and
[2:33:22] that's why you heard from some
[2:33:24] of the cities. If we can fix
[2:33:26] that process I'd be more
[2:33:27] inclined. To you to some of
[2:33:29] these other streamlining methods
[2:33:31] because I'm all about
[2:33:32] streamlining but it has to be
[2:33:34] done on our end to end our our
[2:33:37] agencies need to be responsive
[2:33:38] to the cities. They can't just
[2:33:39] say hey you guys didn't do it
[2:33:41] right. Try again. And that's
[2:33:43] what a lot of them have gotten
[2:33:45] really frustrated out there and
[2:33:46] I think- in and I think that's-
[2:33:48] the issue that. You're cities
[2:33:50] are having. So that's my comment
[2:33:53] I don't know if you've talked a
[2:33:55] cd about this. But hard for me
[2:33:56] to support until they fix their
[2:33:58] problems. I mean. I've bob is
[2:34:04] been. Involved with and for
[2:34:06] close monitor. How element. Or
[2:34:08] six. In my said of sanford.
[2:34:09] which would drum. Process knows
[2:34:12] . Is perfect there are also
[2:34:13] cities- that have- there are
[2:34:18] some cities that have have flown
[2:34:19] off of their obligation and
[2:34:21] have. A dog not all there are
[2:34:23] plenty of cities are trying
[2:34:24] really hard but there are
[2:34:26] cities. That have decided they
[2:34:27] were going to continue to do
[2:34:28] what we've allowed them to do
[2:34:31] for decades. Which is to submit
[2:34:32] a- housing element that is never
[2:34:34] going to happen- and then there
[2:34:36] are also in surprise when it
[2:34:37] gets rejected I think it should
[2:34:41] is working very hard. To try to
[2:34:42] certified or not certified
[2:34:43] compliant with the law there
[2:34:45] cities that are frustrated.
[2:34:46] they're also advocates whose
[2:34:48] there are plenty of advocates
[2:34:49] you think you city has been too
[2:34:51] soft in some cities so it should
[2:34:53] is getting pulled in a lot of
[2:34:54] different directions right now
[2:34:55] and I think they're acting.
[2:34:57] working in good faith to try to.
[2:35:01] to resolve it. Thank you centers
[2:35:05] it there to we have senator will
[2:35:07] hop with the question center
[2:35:10] skinner and sutter cortese.
[2:35:12] thank you. Thank you to
[2:35:14] everybody who spoke- I'll
[2:35:16] actually move this item- and
[2:35:18] hoping that the author of the
[2:35:19] carpenters in the building
[2:35:20] trades all work together- on
[2:35:23] both sides- to kind of come to
[2:35:26] some type of agreement moving
[2:35:27] forward- this is a housing
[2:35:29] committee and we do need
[2:35:30] affordable housing we also need.
[2:35:31] a good paying jobs and I'd like
[2:35:34] for all of us to come together
[2:35:35] rather than- see what we're
[2:35:36] seeing right now- so- for this
[2:35:40] committee I will be moving this
[2:35:41] forward thank you. Thank you
[2:35:43] senator boxer skinner. Thank
[2:35:47] you- I want to ask a little more
[2:35:50] specific question in terms of-
[2:35:52] the. The work to try to get
[2:36:00] agreements- and this is by
[2:36:03] completely understand the
[2:36:04] opposition's. Ab for rather I've
[2:36:08] heard it loud and clear so I am
[2:36:09] not trying to assume that the
[2:36:12] opposition is- not sincere in
[2:36:16] their opposition or- is ready to
[2:36:19] speak full. But what I wanted to
[2:36:21] race is that what the farm
[2:36:23] beyond the sunset. What's being
[2:36:26] changed from what we approved in
[2:36:29] thirty five sb thirty five. Or
[2:36:31] so- as the number of units in
[2:36:34] particular projects that's one
[2:36:36] of the main changes in terms of
[2:36:38] these are the labor standards
[2:36:39] correct hello so it has to be
[2:36:42] clear on what the change was
[2:36:44] under under the original sb
[2:36:45] thirty five for anything for
[2:36:46] anything that was at least 50%
[2:36:48] to fifty to a 100% below market
[2:36:50] rate the restricted. It was
[2:36:51] straight up prevailing wage for
[2:36:54] anything that was mixed income
[2:36:56] below above I think twenty five
[2:36:59] units I believe that's the
[2:37:01] number it's gone up to- was-
[2:37:03] skilled. Skilled workforce-
[2:37:05] this- replaces dive- structure
[2:37:11] with prevailing wage for
[2:37:12] anything eleven and above and
[2:37:14] what once it hits fifty that and
[2:37:17] the health care requirements
[2:37:18] kicked and as well as the- the
[2:37:20] apprenticeship- requirements in
[2:37:23] the bill and the wage theft is
[2:37:25] ubiquitous throughout that sort
[2:37:27] of a how the structure change
[2:37:28] okay. So I guess. And again I
[2:37:35] don't want to for the off but-
[2:37:37] what I want to you is your will.
[2:37:39] to modify some of those either
[2:37:42] the numbers if that's the issue
[2:37:44] . Or or is it the range is it
[2:37:46] the mix of units in terms of
[2:37:49] mix- ford or portable. Again
[2:37:52] trying not yet presuming that
[2:37:54] what would address opposition
[2:37:59] concerns right before your- yes
[2:38:01] so I don't hi- to on the go
[2:38:04] share against myself I'm happy
[2:38:05] to sit down I'm sure with the
[2:38:07] carpenters the trades and to try
[2:38:09] to- have been negotiation.
[2:38:12] absolutely my door is always
[2:38:13] open- you know in in terms of
[2:38:18] what will be included in that
[2:38:19] negotiation and there were there
[2:38:21] are some items in the trades
[2:38:22] opposition letters. Which are
[2:38:24] items that are in about the
[2:38:26] skilled workforce versus prime
[2:38:27] wage which we think our trust in
[2:38:29] the bill but- you know sometimes
[2:38:31] people say you you think you're
[2:38:32] addressing it but it's drafted
[2:38:34] wrong and my- responses well
[2:38:35] tell me how it struck the wrongs
[2:38:37] I want to drop things correctly.
[2:38:39] to some of the items in the in
[2:38:40] the trades opposition letter.
[2:38:42] are you know I think I've been
[2:38:44] dressed but if not then I just
[2:38:45] want to know exactly how not and
[2:38:48] to my interest to know if they-
[2:38:50] if they think it hasn't been-
[2:38:52] address but I. My sense- having
[2:38:53] spoken the traits a lot about
[2:38:55] this is that the skilled
[2:38:57] workforce versus prime which is
[2:38:59] at the heart of it- and- you
[2:39:02] know weeds- like I said we were
[2:39:05] by aye I am very much would like
[2:39:07] to. Resolve it hi. I think
[2:39:09] you're- I think it would be a
[2:39:11] good thing- unfortunately you
[2:39:14] know like I said- I won said in
[2:39:16] a letter to us you know not
[2:39:17] reply won't talk about tangling
[2:39:20] weren't willingness to. Have
[2:39:21] those open discuss yes because
[2:39:22] I'm usually the quiet. One of
[2:39:31] the movement on your part to.
[2:39:33] yes I. We never. Means everyone
[2:39:38] is going to- to open my- you
[2:39:41] know I think I want to be here
[2:39:44] one and what I love love about.
[2:39:45] I know it's been long. As both
[2:39:47] were like were our house we are
[2:39:49] with streamlining right the are
[2:39:50] not saying category oppose or
[2:39:52] pose unless some. Because we
[2:39:54] have. To major labor organ. That
[2:39:56] have disagreement about which is
[2:39:59] the best- labor protections
[2:40:01] right we have the trades have.
[2:40:06] your advocating from. Side of
[2:40:07] the carpenters are advocating
[2:40:09] different of protections they
[2:40:11] both I think authentically
[2:40:13] believe it their protections are
[2:40:15] better- and you know. We had to
[2:40:18] go shuzhen twenty seventeen
[2:40:20] actually with the carpenters
[2:40:21] work involved we came to a
[2:40:23] resolution the traits of told me
[2:40:25] for the last few years that they
[2:40:27] don't support. Anymore the deal
[2:40:30] they agreed to in twenty
[2:40:30] seventeen which I respect no one
[2:40:31] is permanently bound to anything
[2:40:33] near deal that they agree to
[2:40:35] people can change our minds-
[2:40:37] but- you know I think initiation
[2:40:40] you know and that kind of
[2:40:42] dialogue. Would be helpful as
[2:40:43] you can tell them temperatures a
[2:40:45] little bit high- not right now
[2:40:47] but we've all seen that with
[2:40:49] bills that I think. Everyone had
[2:40:50] bills that temperature gets
[2:40:52] really high. And then as things
[2:40:54] progress. Over the course of
[2:40:59] legislative year. People start
[2:41:00] talking come to table. The
[2:41:01] temperature really on ab twenty
[2:41:03] eleven last year and there was a
[2:41:05] deal cut in in august so- I
[2:41:08] would love for that to happen.
[2:41:10] not everyone has to be open
[2:41:11] minded. Myself included and all
[2:41:13] the stakeholders to do that.
[2:41:17] thank you senator skinner- we
[2:41:20] have center cortese. Thank you
[2:41:23] thank you mister. I have a
[2:41:25] question for the author which is
[2:41:27] not a work for standards. You
[2:41:29] know and then I have- actually
[2:41:31] the question. Each for- the
[2:41:36] carpenters and in the building
[2:41:38] trades. Just so- one each six of
[2:41:41] the tornadoes. The question I
[2:41:45] have- for the author. And you
[2:41:49] may recollect this- engine in
[2:41:52] this in the past and some other.
[2:41:54] in some other. Form of saddam
[2:41:56] committee hearing. We have. In
[2:42:00] in san jose- ten council
[2:42:04] districts the- comprises about a
[2:42:08] hundred thousand population
[2:42:09] each. Each one having a single
[2:42:11] calls member representing the-
[2:42:13] m. As sb thirty five has. Been
[2:42:18] successfully applied and utilize
[2:42:20] their- what we're experiencing
[2:42:23] is- cancel members world and I
[2:42:28] don't mean the entire council.
[2:42:30] but only in in fairness to
[2:42:33] people not being here will
[2:42:34] mention specific names. But
[2:42:37] essentially- in in very clearly
[2:42:41] telling constituencies- court
[2:42:43] residential constituencies
[2:42:45] surrounding developed- I'm sorry
[2:42:49] sites that are to be developed.
[2:42:51] the because of sb thirty five-
[2:42:54] are precluded from from holding
[2:42:57] any meaningful hearings or
[2:43:01] discussions with the community.
[2:43:02] on those projects. I know. That
[2:43:05] that's not in the bill I know
[2:43:08] that serving in the bill
[2:43:09] understand the bill would- in
[2:43:12] effect do away with the
[2:43:14] necessity of a secret here read-
[2:43:16] but it also knows that there's a
[2:43:19] whole set of hearings leading up
[2:43:21] to that moment including general
[2:43:22] plan hearings- zoning hearings
[2:43:24] in in a lot of other things.
[2:43:26] where the city council puts
[2:43:28] imprint on what they want to see
[2:43:30] an area. Including objectives
[2:43:32] only standards that said- is
[2:43:37] what can be done. With the
[2:43:39] extension. Of the sb thirty five
[2:43:42] through this bill for twenty
[2:43:44] three this time around- to give
[2:43:47] us a fair shot is legislators in
[2:43:49] in terms of reporting- those.
[2:43:54] misleading statements are women
[2:43:55] call the misunderstandings
[2:43:56] because it's hard for me to
[2:43:57] believe that any. City is- let
[2:44:01] alone one as sophisticated as
[2:44:03] the third largest city the city
[2:44:04] california is in getting the
[2:44:06] proper legal advice in the
[2:44:08] proper understanding of the bill
[2:44:10] like this before they go out and
[2:44:12] talk to their constituents.
[2:44:14] regis it seems to me that we
[2:44:15] need to do some of that work if
[2:44:17] we want not to have blame
[2:44:18] shifting going on for a lack of
[2:44:21] community process in the
[2:44:22] neighborhoods could you speak to
[2:44:24] that agent one of there's a
[2:44:26] willingness to try to. Come up
[2:44:27] with something- in terms of
[2:44:28] state assistance maybe through a
[2:44:30] cd or somehow to get the word
[2:44:33] out constituents that they do
[2:44:35] have the right to continue
[2:44:35] asking for. Community meetings
[2:44:38] and discussion yeah. One thing
[2:44:41] that- figured about does not
[2:44:42] hello. The ability to facilitate
[2:44:44] wants to hold a hearing or or
[2:44:46] neighborhood meeting. They can
[2:44:48] do that- in my experience having
[2:44:50] watched the implementation of
[2:44:52] this bill for carefully for the
[2:44:54] last five years. If you are try
[2:44:56] if you're a developer with your
[2:44:58] nonprofit for will developer
[2:44:59] mark redevelopment if you were.
[2:45:01] in this and this for this whole
[2:45:02] affordable developers because
[2:45:04] there has been very very little
[2:45:05] on the market rate side- but- it
[2:45:09] is in your interest. To engage
[2:45:11] with the local community even
[2:45:13] though you have the ability to
[2:45:14] trigger a three thirty five and
[2:45:16] your- annual alternately trigger
[2:45:18] it. Which will protect the bill
[2:45:19] from sickle education for
[2:45:21] example. Five your life is gonna
[2:45:23] be a heck of a lot easier. If
[2:45:25] you have engage with the
[2:45:27] community and with the city
[2:45:28] council pine department- because
[2:45:30] sometimes it may be that they
[2:45:32] just want a few changes here and
[2:45:34] there consider this. And then it
[2:45:35] de escalates the situation and
[2:45:37] because you do have cities to
[2:45:39] try to nit pick every every
[2:45:40] little possible loophole it's a
[2:45:42] lot easier if the city is like.
[2:45:43] okay we're okay with this
[2:45:45] projects were not going to do
[2:45:47] that. And so and I think a lot
[2:45:49] of the not not every developer
[2:45:50] there's a range of developers.
[2:45:52] but there are plenty of
[2:45:53] developers who I think do. Not
[2:45:54] engage ahead of time and sb
[2:45:56] thirty five. Allows them to
[2:45:58] protect that. Of the project
[2:46:00] from from from the lawsuit so
[2:46:03] it. Any idea maybe you and I
[2:46:04] should talk any ideas you have
[2:46:07] I'm. I'm open to it- I mean into
[2:46:14] times so. Part to it might take
[2:46:16] some of. Very modest you know
[2:46:19] budgetary. Appropriation or some
[2:46:20] it's just the back. This of
[2:46:22] works upper apart for the bill.
[2:46:24] but would love to work with you
[2:46:25] on. In make sure of. In we're
[2:46:29] defending the good that.
[2:46:31] contained herein the in the disk
[2:46:33] - going- can you do to. Those
[2:46:35] per. For the to call. I have
[2:46:38] first. For the car. Of that so
[2:46:41] internal the any kerr is still
[2:46:42] here some who can. A question.
[2:46:44] on their behalf. Is this is this
[2:46:50] is a it's a pretty
[2:46:51] straightforward question here so
[2:46:53] I know it's not overly technical
[2:46:56] in nature- let me preface this
[2:46:59] by saying. I've so not recently
[2:47:02] visited the- the new carpenter's
[2:47:05] apprenticeship center of the on
[2:47:07] the south county santa clara
[2:47:10] county- it's just as recently.
[2:47:12] of visited. Huh the sheet metal
[2:47:15] workers- beautiful training
[2:47:18] center- in the city of san jose.
[2:47:22] both of these facilities as- was
[2:47:24] explained to me at the time
[2:47:25] we're not only state of the art
[2:47:28] but have capacity. Capacity to-
[2:47:31] you know to add a premises. Into
[2:47:34] attached them to jobs. When I
[2:47:36] read the language in the
[2:47:38] standards. In this bill asking
[2:47:40] the but this of the carpenters
[2:47:42] because- of your support for the
[2:47:45] bill sponsorship of the bill- it
[2:47:48] appears to me. If I'm if I'm
[2:47:53] reading this right in the marina
[2:47:56] verbatim all of- the on page six
[2:47:59] of sixteen of my documents here
[2:48:03] - culture to the construction
[2:48:05] cowboys must either participate
[2:48:07] in an apprenticeship program
[2:48:08] pruebas de california division
[2:48:10] of apprenticeship standards. As
[2:48:12] specified for request. The
[2:48:15] dispatch of the princes from the
[2:48:17] state approved apprenticeship
[2:48:19] program as specified. So if the
[2:48:21] contractor chooses. For the
[2:48:24] second part of that work request
[2:48:27] the dispatch of apprenticeships
[2:48:29] rather than participate. In
[2:48:31] apprenticeship program what
[2:48:33] guarantee do we have. Of adding
[2:48:37] or filling. Up the carpenters
[2:48:41] apprenticeship program for the
[2:48:43] sheet metal workers or anybody
[2:48:45] else is it seems to me that. If
[2:48:47] they request the dispatch of
[2:48:48] apprenticeships apprenticeships
[2:48:51] of a- for that job- in the
[2:48:54] responses we don't have. A put
[2:48:57] up enough to send out but we
[2:48:59] don't we need to send out. That
[2:49:01] the contractors off the hook you
[2:49:03] know in terms of driving
[2:49:04] apprenticeship and training and
[2:49:06] enrollment in the trades could
[2:49:08] you respond to the certainly-
[2:49:12] and thank you for the question
[2:49:13] senator. The language that
[2:49:14] you've quoted is a substantially
[2:49:16] the same language that is
[2:49:17] applied for decades to the
[2:49:20] public works sector of
[2:49:21] california which is accounting
[2:49:23] for about 20% of all
[2:49:24] construction in the state of
[2:49:27] california. Where it is either
[2:49:29] shall employer shall request.
[2:49:31] it's also language and we have
[2:49:33] successfully put thousands of
[2:49:35] apprentices we have nineteen
[2:49:38] thousand carpenter and drywall
[2:49:39] and power driver premises
[2:49:40] throughout the state that are
[2:49:43] actively registered as is-
[2:49:45] brother brad shaw said earlier
[2:49:45] turned out. And had graduated
[2:49:48] more than any other single union
[2:49:51] in the state. It public works
[2:49:52] has been in an important part
[2:49:54] along with private work for a
[2:49:56] check a cheating that level of
[2:49:57] success. I would also note that
[2:49:59] the language of having that
[2:50:01] request a good faith effort
[2:50:03] which is has to be documented-
[2:50:05] is parallel to th at the federal
[2:50:08] level language in the inflation
[2:50:10] reduction act. Enacted in twenty
[2:50:13] twenty to the state building and
[2:50:14] construction trades council
[2:50:15] lauded as a massive win for
[2:50:18] californian californians. It's
[2:50:20] language that in with that puts
[2:50:22] forward pairs prevailing wages
[2:50:24] with the partnership that's been
[2:50:25] a winning combination for
[2:50:26] decades already. For the ira it
[2:50:30] is the inflation reduction
[2:50:32] activities to expand into a new
[2:50:35] market place for energy
[2:50:37] efficiency work supported by tax
[2:50:40] credits. Similarly given the non
[2:50:42] union status of the private
[2:50:44] residential world and I should
[2:50:46] note half of publicly subsidized
[2:50:49] a 100% affordable housing which
[2:50:52] is not. We will be expanding.
[2:50:58] massively in fact we already
[2:51:00] have over the past five years of
[2:51:02] sb thirty five being in effect
[2:51:05] have seen dozens of projects.
[2:51:07] that have employed union journey
[2:51:09] level workers and union
[2:51:11] registered apprentices on the
[2:51:13] other hand we have not seen.
[2:51:16] union journey level. Workers
[2:51:18] party or union apprentices
[2:51:20] employed on projects that are
[2:51:23] held to a skilled and trained
[2:51:24] workforce pro. Stand
[2:51:25] requirements retinoid. I didn't
[2:51:28] say I want. To impose somebody
[2:51:31] else's language I'm just asking
[2:51:32] you why have permissive
[2:51:34] language. Win win. And I know
[2:51:38] appreciate everything the
[2:51:39] carbons are done to- to grow and
[2:51:43] develop their own apprenticeship
[2:51:44] program. Larger than the any any
[2:51:47] other union within the overall
[2:51:49] scope of the building trades but
[2:51:51] I also know from first talking
[2:51:53] to your leadership that the
[2:51:54] objective is to grow that much
[2:51:56] more to keep growing as- an and
[2:51:57] I don't know how you get there.
[2:52:00] that's why I asked the question
[2:52:02] how do you assure us for
[2:52:02] guaranteed us that this language
[2:52:04] gets you there if it's
[2:52:06] permissible would make more
[2:52:06] sense to say. That. Good have
[2:52:14] these first two. In language.
[2:52:17] that you could part to in this
[2:52:18] program for re this premises-
[2:52:26] for- or in role. Your work force
[2:52:28] in the apprenticeship program
[2:52:28] that current exists. What what
[2:52:31] would it say that. There's no.
[2:52:33] that there's put of non union
[2:52:34] workers and every one of these
[2:52:36] jobs at the builders are saying
[2:52:37] we want more housing production
[2:52:39] that's what we're doing this
[2:52:40] bill we want. Teams to
[2:52:42] streamline things we need to
[2:52:43] move quicker we've got people
[2:52:45] that want to go to work. Where
[2:52:47] we then seen wonderful will
[2:52:49] streamline. The objective so you
[2:52:52] can get your developments done
[2:52:54] much more quickly. But in
[2:52:56] exchange you need to do not just
[2:53:00] two of these things
[2:53:01] permissibility if they work and
[2:53:03] if they don't proceed nonunion-
[2:53:06] but you need to do one or the
[2:53:09] other. Or in effect- signatory
[2:53:12] what by would we say that with
[2:53:13] language that that. Simply says
[2:53:18] you you've got to have. What
[2:53:19] would have other been your non
[2:53:20] union force in the list before
[2:53:22] that sb thirty five project
[2:53:23] overly thomas b. Thirty five
[2:53:25] projects in this bill before
[2:53:27] that. Project commences. I
[2:53:29] certainly as a builder myself
[2:53:31] consisted. That a contractors
[2:53:34] who do not a new workers
[2:53:36] signatory if they want to come
[2:53:37] in my gate and I'm just asking
[2:53:41] why not have that language. The
[2:53:42] language which again you know
[2:53:44] has been part of california law
[2:53:45] for public works for decades his
[2:53:47] excellency works is I under I
[2:53:48] and I under I understand if I
[2:53:50] just ask you to speak to this
[2:53:52] bill. This for this bill what it
[2:53:54] what this offers and I would be
[2:53:56] happy to share with any member
[2:53:58] of the committee a map of where
[2:53:59] registered apprentices live
[2:54:00] currently. There are parts of
[2:54:02] california where frankly not
[2:54:04] every single trade has an
[2:54:06] adequate number of registered
[2:54:08] apprentices today tomorrow and
[2:54:10] for quite frankly walt the
[2:54:13] carpenters. Apprenticeships are
[2:54:15] open to anyone who's seventeen
[2:54:17] or over and with the g. D. Or an
[2:54:19] equivalent. That's not the case
[2:54:21] necessarily for all of the other
[2:54:23] pressure programs. We believe
[2:54:25] that we are in a housing crisis.
[2:54:28] and it is critical to ensure
[2:54:30] that we get as much as possible
[2:54:32] organized within the streamlined
[2:54:35] housing world. And that's- down
[2:54:39] to corner for is it takes two to
[2:54:40] tango it requires unions and
[2:54:42] pressure programs that are in
[2:54:43] growth mode- to participate that
[2:54:46] are- perhaps at times even
[2:54:48] willing. To send an apprentice
[2:54:51] to a non union job that's that
[2:54:53] that's an opportunity to spread
[2:54:56] the union gospel quite frankly.
[2:54:58] a member go there but- your- you
[2:55:01] know your your responses to my
[2:55:03] questions that I don't want to
[2:55:05] I'm not here to. You know to go
[2:55:07] any further with this- but I
[2:55:10] think you told from my comments.
[2:55:11] I think if we're going to get to
[2:55:14] a place of resolving. The
[2:55:16] current. Dispute if you will
[2:55:18] over. Workforce standards one
[2:55:21] thing that's going to have to be
[2:55:22] resolved this. Is how. We as a
[2:55:26] legislature effectuate a true.
[2:55:30] bargain here. Expedited
[2:55:33] expedited. Rules in sequel
[2:55:37] waivers in exchange for-
[2:55:40] workforce that's that's and
[2:55:42] rolled in the kind of screen
[2:55:43] that creates a california for
[2:55:45] all that's my position I
[2:55:47] appreciate your comments. L. Is
[2:55:48] also my position that I
[2:55:49] appreciate the bold work by all
[2:55:52] of you bill sponsors in the
[2:55:54] author I said that earlier just
[2:55:55] call just incorporate those
[2:55:56] comments by referencing in
[2:55:58] getting us to a place. Of for
[2:56:00] the first time in history the
[2:56:01] state where we're starting to
[2:56:03] actually streamlined- in and get
[2:56:06] production out of some of this
[2:56:07] legislation so thank you very
[2:56:09] much appreciate your your
[2:56:10] comments or just want to go over
[2:56:12] that peace with you and if I
[2:56:15] could. Just of the notebook a
[2:56:15] minute or two. With somebody
[2:56:17] representing the building
[2:56:18] trades- ever a question there
[2:56:21] and. It will be a single
[2:56:26] question. I apologize making a
[2:56:27] lasting question. Three- person
[2:56:31] who responded was so good he
[2:56:33] prompted two more questions. And
[2:56:35] think they can thank you right I
[2:56:37] don't know if you want to re
[2:56:39] identify yourself sure my name
[2:56:40] is alex lance burdett market
[2:56:41] with the building trades in the
[2:56:43] research and advocacy director
[2:56:44] for the san francisco.
[2:56:45] electrical construction industry
[2:56:46] so. If it's your position. That
[2:56:51] skilled and trained language as
[2:56:53] a as it currently exists in s.
[2:56:56] b. Sb thirty five. Which is not
[2:56:58] in as before twenty three. If
[2:57:01] you're saying. That old language
[2:57:04] if you will or their current
[2:57:05] language is not the problem
[2:57:07] that's that's holding up-
[2:57:09] production. Then the what is
[2:57:11] your explanation. Well I think
[2:57:13] the problem holding up
[2:57:14] production in california is the
[2:57:16] same per day is the same problem
[2:57:18] that's holding up production.
[2:57:20] throughout the country it's the
[2:57:20] same problem that's holding up
[2:57:21] production of tens of thousands.
[2:57:23] of entitled units that have no
[2:57:25] labor standards and it's the
[2:57:27] same problem that was holding up
[2:57:28] production of. Affordable
[2:57:29] housing they got bill dad's bill
[2:57:31] with prevailing wage standards.
[2:57:35] after the state gave it money.
[2:57:36] there's no money for this. The
[2:57:38] entire housing market if you
[2:57:39] take a look at. That a national
[2:57:42] data it's a it's gone in. You
[2:57:46] know it's kind of falling off
[2:57:48] falling down if you take a look
[2:57:50] at california production we but
[2:57:51] pretty much flatlined. Back to
[2:57:53] pre great recession levels maybe
[2:57:55] a little bit higher since about
[2:57:58] twenty seventeen since and
[2:57:59] despite two hundred seventy
[2:58:01] five. Streamlining building code
[2:58:04] changes as- hcd has told us we
[2:58:06] haven't really seen we haven't
[2:58:08] really moved the needle the
[2:58:09] fundamental problem is materials
[2:58:11] and prices are just ask about
[2:58:13] escalating it wildly and quite
[2:58:16] volatile- rents. Have gone down
[2:58:18] in the land the highest demand
[2:58:19] areas and frankly I think this
[2:58:21] is something that a lot of
[2:58:22] people to hold their of been
[2:58:24] multiple lawsuits and sb thirty
[2:58:26] five projects if you actually
[2:58:26] take a look at the dashboard. In
[2:58:29] a cd there are sixty there are
[2:58:30] over sixty five hundred units
[2:58:33] in. The I thirty five projects
[2:58:36] that would have had skilled and
[2:58:38] trained standards a number of
[2:58:39] them including one of the ones
[2:58:41] that- the club put forward by
[2:58:44] the by the gentleman who spoke
[2:58:47] in support. Were held up through
[2:58:48] a variety of different
[2:58:49] procedural delays so in short
[2:58:52] it's- your explanation is. As
[2:58:57] economics economic concerns and
[2:59:02] - in litigation to some it yes.
[2:59:04] I think so I don't want to over-
[2:59:07] we don't have time to. Dominate
[2:59:09] the meeting here but- if there's
[2:59:12] anything else say it and I just
[2:59:14] want to say hey- thank you for.
[2:59:18] your answer which is slated to
[2:59:20] the prayer witness and also a c.
[2:59:22] just like said per witness I
[2:59:23] think this needs to be it is an
[2:59:25] issue that needs to be resolved.
[2:59:27] the these the real answer to
[2:59:29] this question if we're going to
[2:59:31] be able to go forward to get
[2:59:33] this bill on the working
[2:59:34] standards side of it. In shape
[2:59:38] for general consensus among the
[2:59:39] legislature I appreciated center
[2:59:41] I think you and I think
[2:59:42] everyone's who's- rightfully
[2:59:44] worried about the housing crisis
[2:59:46] is looking for all sorts of
[2:59:47] things. To try to make things go
[2:59:49] but I think as we've been saying
[2:59:51] that continuing sort of private
[2:59:53] sector streamlining in light of
[2:59:54] this broad in the broad
[2:59:55] conditions that we have in the
[2:59:57] market right now is pushing on a
[2:59:59] string. And to do so by
[3:00:01] eliminating weakening labor
[3:00:02] standards not not going from
[3:00:05] zero to a prevailing wage
[3:00:06] standard but going from the gold
[3:00:07] standard that actually trains
[3:00:09] that are highers apprentices.
[3:00:11] creates a pathway for these
[3:00:12] workers to lower it. Is a loss
[3:00:15] for california thank you. Thank
[3:00:19] you ma'am sure. Thank you do we
[3:00:22] have. Any other members who like
[3:00:24] to speak. Okay so just a couple
[3:00:29] of comments on my on my end.
[3:00:35] it's my understanding that this
[3:00:36] bill. Does not exclude skilled.
[3:00:40] and trained labor force right
[3:00:42] workforce. I mean it it it
[3:00:44] doesn't exclude and they could
[3:00:45] still bid for these jobs if
[3:00:47] they're available after jobs-
[3:00:50] it's still it's still there for
[3:00:51] them as an opportunity. To be
[3:00:55] able to bid on the strongest.
[3:00:56] three will to yes this is this
[3:00:58] debate in some ways about which
[3:01:00] contractors are allowed to bid.
[3:01:03] on jobs skilled workforce you
[3:01:05] have to have a certain
[3:01:07] percentage of your workers- come
[3:01:09] out of. Particular meet certain
[3:01:11] qualifications service terms of
[3:01:13] apprenticeship program- at and
[3:01:15] so forth and they qualifies
[3:01:18] under the skilled workforce
[3:01:18] standard- and the contractors
[3:01:21] have to employee tax percentage
[3:01:22] depending on the craft. To
[3:01:24] qualify to bid on other
[3:01:26] contractors are not those
[3:01:29] contractors who will qualify. In
[3:01:33] the school workforce can still
[3:01:34] bid. The be more contract who
[3:01:36] were. To bid this work spanned
[3:01:38] the pool contractors who can bid
[3:01:40] and we know that in. Parts of
[3:01:42] the state there might. Very few
[3:01:44] contractors who can meet the
[3:01:46] skilled workforce standards. So
[3:01:48] it doesn't exclude them they're
[3:01:50] still included in the ability to
[3:01:53] bid for these jobs. Also in
[3:01:58] regards to the apprenticeship
[3:01:58] programs. When you limited to
[3:02:01] justice to this skilled
[3:02:04] workforce training still
[3:02:05] workforce. You're limiting the
[3:02:07] amount the- the number of
[3:02:09] apprenticeship programs that
[3:02:10] actually qualify to be able to
[3:02:13] bid on these jobs to this would
[3:02:15] open it up to an array of
[3:02:16] apprenticeship. Programs that
[3:02:18] aren't- that are actually
[3:02:21] approved by the state. Is that
[3:02:25] correct. Yes yes okay. So it it
[3:02:30] opens up more apprenticeship
[3:02:32] programs- in the state to be
[3:02:35] able to. To work for this in it
[3:02:38] also- opens the ability to have
[3:02:41] more opportunity for work for
[3:02:44] approximately four hundred
[3:02:46] thousand workers that don't
[3:02:48] necessarily- belong to a
[3:02:51] specific apprenticeship program
[3:02:53] but belong to any apprenticeship
[3:02:55] program. In the state the mayor
[3:02:57] may not. And also when we talk
[3:03:01] about workforce standards I was
[3:03:03] just asking for clarification on
[3:03:05] that whether or not. Fusing it
[3:03:08] meant labor code or construction
[3:03:10] code- the versus- and I believe
[3:03:14] it's labor code labor code is
[3:03:17] labor code in california right.
[3:03:20] any construction house to meet
[3:03:23] those standards- in california
[3:03:27] is that is that not correct
[3:03:28] labor code is they were cut it
[3:03:31] doesn't very. Her apprenticeship
[3:03:33] program or no apprenticeship
[3:03:34] program or any apprenticeship
[3:03:36] program. Is that correct- I see
[3:03:40] people nodding their head may
[3:03:41] day kerr with the carpenters the
[3:03:43] labor code is essentially
[3:03:44] designed for public works there
[3:03:46] are there are workers there are
[3:03:48] other codes for the workforce in
[3:03:52] general. But on public works you
[3:03:53] have to meet the labor codes
[3:03:55] that have to do with prevailing
[3:03:57] wages and prices. And if you are
[3:03:59] non union contractor you still
[3:04:00] have to meet those codes if you
[3:04:02] don't have a premises because of
[3:04:04] their labor management programs
[3:04:05] generally. Use than request
[3:04:07] practices from the programs that
[3:04:10] have them. If they fulfill that
[3:04:13] request then you met your up the
[3:04:16] standard for apprentices if they
[3:04:18] don't. Meet their request of
[3:04:20] third don't send to they don't
[3:04:21] have them or in some unions
[3:04:23] don't send them to non union
[3:04:25] contractors. Then you've gone
[3:04:26] through the process of asking
[3:04:27] and not receive them so you have
[3:04:29] for fill that requirement you
[3:04:31] cannot pay anybody
[3:04:32] apprenticeship wages after that
[3:04:35] because that's also did- the
[3:04:37] governed by the labor code
[3:04:39] sections. But the wages are
[3:04:41] outside of labor code sections.
[3:04:43] I think the minimum wage that
[3:04:45] applies to all workers on
[3:04:46] construction or anywhere
[3:04:48] actually. You do not have to
[3:04:50] meet any other labor any other
[3:04:52] way each and in that for
[3:04:54] construction. And that this bill
[3:04:57] will specify prevailing wage
[3:04:59] that's correct on the floor. And
[3:05:00] it's not like it's not a public
[3:05:02] works as senator criticizing
[3:05:04] this. Asking but it does require
[3:05:06] you meet a prevailing wage which
[3:05:08] you have to pay. And it does
[3:05:10] require if you don't have a
[3:05:11] prince's over fifty units you
[3:05:13] then have to request apprentices
[3:05:15] through the normal process that
[3:05:17] you would request princes to
[3:05:18] print ship. Part of friendship
[3:05:20] standards if you get them you
[3:05:22] have to use them and some crafts
[3:05:24] will send them some won't. As
[3:05:26] you heard and if you don't get
[3:05:28] them but you've applied then
[3:05:29] you've met. Your requirement but
[3:05:35] you cannot pay hey those.
[3:05:36] prevailing mean those approach
[3:05:38] wages which are lower. So I
[3:05:40] don't have to helps and then-
[3:05:41] just for the concert code to
[3:05:42] everyone whether your in in an
[3:05:44] apprenticeship program or not.
[3:05:47] the special. Shook his art union
[3:05:49] or not construction code is the
[3:05:51] same. And inspectors are. On
[3:05:54] site. That reviewed the work yes
[3:05:58] already and the construction is
[3:05:59] quality will be overseeing. That
[3:06:03] in making sure that construction
[3:06:05] code is being mad at those sites
[3:06:07] as correct okay. All right I
[3:06:11] think- and I have one last
[3:06:12] question for the doctor and
[3:06:14] that's with regards to sunset.
[3:06:16] date would you be- flexible open
[3:06:20] to discussions on perhaps
[3:06:22] extending that. That sunset if
[3:06:26] necessary. To the reason why we
[3:06:28] chose to remove the suns- is we
[3:06:30] not five years of experience
[3:06:32] with sb thirty five five so
[3:06:34] we've- sort of seen the
[3:06:35] mechanics of it and I think it
[3:06:37] makes sense. Perfect as I
[3:06:39] mentioned to you this morning I
[3:06:40] would be shocked if the sunset
[3:06:42] issue didn't come up. Over the
[3:06:45] next. Six months- of our
[3:06:48] legislative process were in
[3:06:50] negotiations around the bill- so
[3:06:53] I'm- I'm sure that'll be an
[3:06:55] issue- that will be part of. A
[3:07:00] dialogue. And I am. I do one
[3:07:02] more I'm one I'm supposed to ask
[3:07:05] . And page thirty eight of a-
[3:07:09] the bill that the bill yes ma'am
[3:07:11] is a supplement about her. Okay
[3:07:16] beginning online twenty of the
[3:07:17] bill the lang read. Thirty six.
[3:07:25] nine twenty one. Hello yeah k.
[3:07:26] the language. Not any law for
[3:07:29] purposes of this section and for
[3:07:32] the development of on property
[3:07:34] owned by or at least to the
[3:07:36] state. The department of general
[3:07:38] services may act in the place of
[3:07:40] a locality or local government
[3:07:42] at the discretion of the
[3:07:44] department. Question is it your
[3:07:48] intent with this provision to
[3:07:49] grant the state with authority
[3:07:52] to enter into a long term lease
[3:07:55] with the developer. And then act
[3:07:58] in place of the locality or
[3:08:00] local government for purposes of
[3:08:03] developments. The sisters find
[3:08:06] them the reason why that's in
[3:08:08] there we- because we've had
[3:08:10] enough five years of experience
[3:08:12] we've seen some. Of any
[3:08:14] complicated bill you're going to
[3:08:15] see technical issues out to be
[3:08:17] fixed as it's implemented hi and
[3:08:19] there was one particular project
[3:08:21] if he was in the lake tahoe area
[3:08:23] work it was in a city that
[3:08:25] qualified for sb thirty five
[3:08:26] project. Fully qualified except
[3:08:28] because there was a state sign
[3:08:30] off that had to happen because
[3:08:32] it was in the lake tahoe area.
[3:08:34] it became ineligible rescue
[3:08:36] thirty five because sb thirty
[3:08:38] five currently has no mechanism
[3:08:40] and it is a project otherwise
[3:08:42] fully qualifies. But the state
[3:08:45] has to make some sort of
[3:08:46] decision no matter how minor
[3:08:48] that decision it simply gets
[3:08:50] kicked out of sb thirty five.
[3:08:51] and the purpose of this
[3:08:52] provision is to say that if
[3:08:54] there is not senate state owned
[3:08:56] property I know that yeah I
[3:08:58] think you have a bill to
[3:08:59] streamline on state. Owned
[3:09:03] property. The state having to
[3:09:05] make it this. Does not x. The
[3:09:07] project rescue three five and it
[3:09:10] would be the of euro service.
[3:09:12] that would be the that would. Be
[3:09:14] able to consent so I hope that
[3:09:15] makes sense- but that was our
[3:09:16] purpose is not in any way to
[3:09:18] aggrandize the state it's
[3:09:19] expensive cities this is for
[3:09:20] situations where- where the
[3:09:23] state has some sort of sign up
[3:09:25] either because of state owned
[3:09:26] land to the something the state
[3:09:27] has to do- that. Would currently
[3:09:30] kick it out of sb thirty five
[3:09:31] entirely. Thank you. Senator
[3:09:37] later- any other are common.
[3:09:39] okay we have a motion with it by
[3:09:43] saturday bob. Senator will hop.
[3:09:45] that makes motion to compel. I'm
[3:09:50] sorry. Which is to close. You
[3:09:54] for enough for me I risk ask and
[3:09:56] I don't. Thank you. L. Seven
[3:10:00] motion and secretary. The senate
[3:10:03] for senate bill for three by sen
[3:10:04] wiener the motion to pass and
[3:10:06] river the can. Under and finance
[3:10:08] senator wiener. Wiener hi the
[3:10:09] troubled by what chau book hi
[3:10:12] click here five clicks here hi.
[3:10:18] or does he- courtesy hi mcguire
[3:10:20] . Padilla they are to. See no
[3:10:23] skinner hi skinner hi I'm- bob I
[3:10:28] bob five. One of the role from
[3:10:34] the case. We have. House. Thank
[3:10:52] you.
[3:11:06] sure okay it's good to be
[3:11:10] sitting again. We will now and I
[3:11:13] want to the can for its as we
[3:11:15] want to two. Linkedin's we now
[3:11:18] move to item three s. Three for
[3:11:19] one vice. Tucker who is says you
[3:11:23] make. You may present your bill
[3:11:27] thank you for your patience. I
[3:11:29] think you could after that chair
[3:11:30] and thank you up to prison as
[3:11:34] three for one. Housing element
[3:11:35] comply for and housing
[3:11:36] incentives are important to for
[3:11:37] k. To the housing- the housing
[3:11:39] it needs. Over these tools
[3:11:40] should be at a pro actors assisi
[3:11:42] and counties of course are there
[3:11:45] sometimes important programs are
[3:11:45] private before the housing
[3:11:47] developers who have no control
[3:11:49] over local government actions
[3:11:51] are the applicants. The results
[3:11:53] are is that developers to do the
[3:11:55] right thing and bring for a
[3:11:57] house in a less than friendly
[3:11:59] jurisdictions are penalized by
[3:12:00] the state. In some cases like
[3:12:02] affordable housing sustainable
[3:12:03] communities program in eligible
[3:12:06] to apply if the cedar county
[3:12:08] does not have an approved
[3:12:10] housing element. In other cases
[3:12:12] a qualifying infill program- the
[3:12:18] - but portion of infill
[3:12:18] infrastructure program they lose
[3:12:20] pro housing points and therefore
[3:12:21] not competitive. With sb three
[3:12:24] forty one strikes the right
[3:12:26] balance of incentivizing local
[3:12:26] governments to adopt pro housing
[3:12:29] policies while not penalizing
[3:12:31] developers who bring a former
[3:12:32] housing to low income families
[3:12:34] who need for but housing in
[3:12:36] these less housing friendly
[3:12:38] jurisdiction. The bill plus pro
[3:12:40] housing incentives in housing
[3:12:42] element compliance rituals only
[3:12:43] to state programs which cities
[3:12:45] and counties as opposed to
[3:12:47] private a former housing
[3:12:47] developers. Part the primary
[3:12:49] applicants with that I've to
[3:12:51] witnesses here today. Marks
[3:12:55] stivers and courtney how. Good
[3:12:55] afternoon march diverse with
[3:12:57] california housing partnership-
[3:12:59] as a center said we are very
[3:13:00] much in favor of pro housing
[3:13:02] incentives and housing I'm a
[3:13:03] compliance. But if we want to
[3:13:05] change local government behavior
[3:13:06] we have to incentivize with them
[3:13:08] with things that they want
[3:13:10] transportation funds park funds
[3:13:11] general fund. The nine them
[3:13:13] housing funds when they're
[3:13:14] resistant to housing justin able
[3:13:15] enables that resistance and so
[3:13:17] this bill actually strikes the
[3:13:19] right balance and make sure
[3:13:20] that- developers who are trying
[3:13:22] to build housing in communities
[3:13:23] that may be less than friendly.
[3:13:25] are able to bring that housing
[3:13:28] are able to get state funding to
[3:13:29] do so- think about an example
[3:13:31] where a community is resistant
[3:13:33] of housing they're able to use
[3:13:34] something like sb thirty five to
[3:13:36] get approval we wouldn't want to
[3:13:38] penalize that developer having
[3:13:39] done exactly we wanted them to
[3:13:41] do which was to bring affordable
[3:13:43] housing. To community of to all
[3:13:44] communities in the state. So we
[3:13:47] are dr- today thank you. Great
[3:13:53] good afternoon jerry narron
[3:13:54] members of the committee my name
[3:13:56] is courtney powell and I'm with
[3:13:57] resources for community
[3:13:58] development or rcd as were known
[3:14:00] in the field. I'm here in
[3:14:02] support of sb three forty one a
[3:14:04] bill that would more
[3:14:06] appropriately align incentives
[3:14:06] for housing element compliance
[3:14:08] and housing policies. Our city
[3:14:10] is a nonprofit affordable
[3:14:12] housing developer providing over
[3:14:14] twenty five hundred rental homes
[3:14:15] throughout the bay area. With an
[3:14:16] additional one thousand units in
[3:14:19] pre development and
[3:14:20] construction. Unfortunately our
[3:14:20] ability to access funding for
[3:14:23] these people and projects is
[3:14:24] currently jeopardized by
[3:14:25] regulations that penalize
[3:14:26] affordable housing developers.
[3:14:28] for the shortcomings of local
[3:14:29] jurisdictions. Nonprofit
[3:14:31] developers like our cd cannot
[3:14:33] apply for funding receiving
[3:14:34] award or have funds disbursed by
[3:14:37] the state unless the local
[3:14:38] government. Where are four wheel
[3:14:39] housing developments are located
[3:14:41] has met certain housing element
[3:14:42] compliance milestones. This
[3:14:44] spring three of our developments
[3:14:46] will compete for state funding
[3:14:47] under the affordable housing and
[3:14:48] sustainable communities program
[3:14:50] and all three of those
[3:14:51] developments are in
[3:14:52] jurisdictions without a
[3:14:53] complaint housing element. As a
[3:14:56] result we will take on it the
[3:14:57] significant an undue risk of
[3:14:59] preparing extensive applications
[3:15:01] and potentially even executing
[3:15:03] award agreements. Pending the
[3:15:04] result of a local government
[3:15:06] process that we have absolutely
[3:15:08] no control over. This will have
[3:15:10] replication throughout the
[3:15:11] capital stack of these
[3:15:12] developments as tax credit
[3:15:13] investors and private lenders
[3:15:17] react to the additional
[3:15:18] uncertainty. The threshold
[3:15:19] requirement has the unintended
[3:15:20] and unfortunate consequence of
[3:15:22] adding additional complication
[3:15:23] and cost affordable housing
[3:15:25] development process. This issue
[3:15:28] is not isolated to the three
[3:15:29] developments at this moment in
[3:15:30] time. Over 75% of our city's pre
[3:15:33] development portfolio is located
[3:15:35] in one of the many bay area
[3:15:37] jurisdictions that do not
[3:15:38] currently have a compliant
[3:15:39] housing element. And
[3:15:41] additionally some jurisdictions
[3:15:42] that we work in one have a
[3:15:43] complaint housing element for
[3:15:45] another year or more. Sb three
[3:15:48] forty one would remove the
[3:15:49] threshold requirements the state
[3:15:50] enforcement of housing element
[3:15:51] law does not delay affordable
[3:15:54] housing construction. Realigning
[3:15:56] this incentive will ensure that
[3:15:57] developers like rcd can continue
[3:15:59] to build affordable housing for
[3:16:00] the low income californians who
[3:16:03] desperately need it. Thank you.
[3:16:05] thank you very much we will now
[3:16:07] go to additional support for
[3:16:10] this bill the state your name
[3:16:12] organization and the fact of
[3:16:15] your support. Marino white with
[3:16:17] the california housing
[3:16:18] consortium in support. Amberley
[3:16:21] leslie legislative advocate with
[3:16:23] housing california in support.
[3:16:25] anyone else in support. Okay is
[3:16:29] there any opposition to this
[3:16:30] bill or we have no registered
[3:16:32] opposition anyone in opposition
[3:16:36] . Okay say none will go to the
[3:16:37] phone lines with a moderator
[3:16:38] please- call any support or
[3:16:41] opposition from public comment.
[3:16:44] tell me if you are into border
[3:16:46] opposition sb three forty one is
[3:16:49] one nine zero. Support or
[3:16:52] opposition of s. Eighty three
[3:16:57] forty one. One seven zero. We do
[3:17:02] have a couple fueling up here to
[3:17:04] be just a moment.
[3:17:15] we will go to the line thirty
[3:17:18] two please go ahead. Aye allen
[3:17:20] and schallert and monsanto in
[3:17:23] support thank you. Thank you to
[3:17:28] be just one moment here we have
[3:17:30] two other ones that have queued
[3:17:32] up. We will go now to line.
[3:17:46] three ninety nine. I number
[3:17:47] three ninety nine your line is
[3:17:48] open. Good afternoon turn
[3:17:49] members thanks for having this
[3:17:51] hearing this is dealing dobbins
[3:17:52] that's part of the california
[3:17:54] coalition for rural happening in
[3:17:56] strong support of sb three forty
[3:17:58] one. Thank you. Thank you there
[3:18:01] are no other thank you at this
[3:18:03] time okay thank you very much
[3:18:04] we're back to the committee
[3:18:05] colleagues any questions or
[3:18:07] comments for the author yes
[3:18:08] under voice here this seems like
[3:18:10] a great bill and I'm happy to
[3:18:13] support thank you for thinking
[3:18:14] of it. Great any other questions
[3:18:16] or comments okay we have a
[3:18:18] motion by cineplex marc amending
[3:18:21] an aye vote on this bill- would
[3:18:23] you like to close respectfully
[3:18:25] ask for a vote thank you- will
[3:18:27] call the roll. Senate bill three
[3:18:30] forty one by senator booker the
[3:18:31] motion is to pass and referred
[3:18:32] to committee on appropriations
[3:18:34] senator wiener wiener hi which-
[3:18:36] book. To book hi blix here by
[3:18:39] like zero zero. Courtesy mcguire
[3:18:43] videa. There are two right there
[3:18:47] too hi. Umberg burke I bob. Okay
[3:18:54] the good karma as far two zero
[3:18:55] will put it call for us and-
[3:18:58] thank you senator. Okay we're
[3:18:59] now going to skip four for them-
[3:19:02] moments we'll go back to that-
[3:19:04] later we're gonna go to item
[3:19:06] number. Of five. I see center
[3:19:10] career- okay we will- three.
[3:19:25] okay I am going to present seven
[3:19:27] remains of ours still males- and
[3:19:32] saw him a couple back over to a
[3:19:34] very spiritual book. I'm gonna
[3:19:37] I'm gonna present from my-
[3:19:39] jessica concerning enough today
[3:19:42] . Thank you senator wiener and-
[3:19:44] please. When you're ready please
[3:19:49] present- file item number four
[3:19:52] sp four fifty six on behalf of
[3:19:54] senator mitchell park please
[3:19:56] okay thank you madam vice chair
[3:19:58] I want so I'm extra happy to
[3:20:00] present in the store for center
[3:20:01] mintmark because I have-
[3:20:02] authored another version of this
[3:20:04] bill. In the past and I'm
[3:20:06] thrilled with senator menjivar
[3:20:08] introduced said I'm. Proud to be
[3:20:12] a joint authors are still. At
[3:20:14] four fifty remove barriers to
[3:20:15] housing for our most vulnerable-
[3:20:17] young people- young people
[3:20:21] exiting the foster care system
[3:20:22] exiting the criminal justice
[3:20:25] system are experiencing
[3:20:25] homelessness- current law
[3:20:27] directs the california
[3:20:28] interagency council on
[3:20:30] homelessness to establish goals
[3:20:32] to prevent youth homelessness
[3:20:33] and support increasing the
[3:20:34] capacity of new and existing
[3:20:36] service providers. For example
[3:20:37] home to two point no but only
[3:20:40] public agencies can be the lead
[3:20:42] applicant for these projects sb
[3:20:44] four fifty six law expand
[3:20:45] program eligibility. For this
[3:20:48] funding by allowing community
[3:20:49] based organizations that
[3:20:51] currently provide transitional
[3:20:53] housing or emergency shelter to
[3:20:55] be eligible for use only home
[3:20:57] key projects we have some
[3:20:58] amazing. Nonprofits around
[3:21:00] states that are very experienced
[3:21:02] and helping you to get off the
[3:21:05] streets and helping them
[3:21:05] transition. To a better life one
[3:21:07] of the most california. Counties
[3:21:09] do not have to specific homes
[3:21:11] programs- and we need to make
[3:21:14] sure that are non profits that
[3:21:16] help these young people- are
[3:21:18] able to help them exit and
[3:21:19] access is funding directly and
[3:21:21] not have to rely on. The
[3:21:23] possibility that the local
[3:21:26] government will try to access.
[3:21:28] the funding. If we can help
[3:21:30] these young people stabilize
[3:21:32] their lives and become pals at a
[3:21:34] younger age- we will avoid- them
[3:21:38] spiraling into chronic
[3:21:39] homelessness and help them get
[3:21:41] on a better track can help save
[3:21:44] their lives. So. Respectfully
[3:21:48] ask for and I don't. Thank you
[3:21:53] very much so- wiener. Now let's
[3:21:55] hear per from any witnesses in
[3:21:56] support in to assist lead
[3:21:58] opposite let need support.
[3:22:00] perfect thank you at center
[3:22:01] wiener and committee members
[3:22:03] thank for the opportunity speak
[3:22:04] about the importance of sb four
[3:22:06] fifty six which both on senator
[3:22:07] wiener's leadership to secure
[3:22:08] funding for. Housing and
[3:22:10] homelessness to address there.
[3:22:12] are states most vulnerable youth
[3:22:14] and kristen power with the
[3:22:15] alliance for children's rights.
[3:22:16] the critically important to
[3:22:17] invest increase housing
[3:22:18] availability to ensure that all
[3:22:20] who want to participate in our
[3:22:21] extend foster care program can
[3:22:23] take full advantage of the
[3:22:24] program and unaccompanied
[3:22:25] homeless youth. Are safely and
[3:22:27] stably housed to prevent the
[3:22:29] heightened risk of their
[3:22:29] entering homelessness we deeply
[3:22:31] appreciate center image of ours
[3:22:32] leadership on this issue area
[3:22:34] and senator wiener's continuing
[3:22:36] support to prioritize developing
[3:22:38] safe and stable housing for
[3:22:39] youth. Respectfully ask your aye
[3:22:43] vote. Good evening himmler's
[3:22:45] representing the california
[3:22:46] coalition for youth when the co
[3:22:48] sponsors of the spell and just
[3:22:49] in light of the hour I'll just
[3:22:52] keep my remarks start I wanted
[3:22:53] to share a story about a young
[3:22:55] person but- also for that for
[3:22:56] another day and the power of
[3:22:58] these housing interventions are
[3:22:59] really what's going to change
[3:23:00] the trajectories of our young
[3:23:01] people's lives. And support them
[3:23:02] to be successful in the future
[3:23:04] and that's what we want for all
[3:23:06] of our young people. And it's a
[3:23:08] way for us to really check out
[3:23:10] the what away at the unsheltered
[3:23:11] numbers of our young people who
[3:23:12] are sleeping at the street
[3:23:13] california has seventy point 5%
[3:23:15] of our young people counted that
[3:23:17] are unsheltered. And so this is
[3:23:18] a bill to really solve that.
[3:23:19] challenge and we really want you
[3:23:20] to say yes today and know that
[3:23:22] when we invest in our young
[3:23:24] people were investing in them
[3:23:25] and we believe in them we
[3:23:27] believe in our future so
[3:23:28] appreciate us. Thank you. Thank
[3:23:30] you very much now we're going to
[3:23:32] move forward and- openers for
[3:23:34] sorry. Stars given or the space-
[3:23:36] is this on their behalf of the
[3:23:38] california academy of child and
[3:23:39] adolescent psychiatry in support
[3:23:41] as well as california state
[3:23:42] association of psychiatrists in
[3:23:44] support. Thanks thank you. And
[3:23:47] c. N. N. F. And what children
[3:23:50] now in support. Thank you do we
[3:23:53] have any other witnesses in
[3:23:55] support. Sb four fifty six
[3:23:59] hearing room top hundred. C.
[3:24:02] nine will now move on to the
[3:24:04] witnesses in opposition. Let's
[3:24:07] hear from opposition witnesses
[3:24:10] in room. Twelve hundred. Scene
[3:24:14] nine. That's great thank. You
[3:24:17] will now move on to witnesses
[3:24:19] waiting to testify idea to
[3:24:20] teleconference service. Will be
[3:24:22] limiting phone testimony to
[3:24:25] twenty minutes for all bills
[3:24:26] during this hearing. If you are
[3:24:29] in support or opposition. S. B.
[3:24:31] u. Four fifty six it is one
[3:24:36] seven zero. Let's start with my
[3:24:38] number forty five. Your number
[3:24:41] three and on behalf of
[3:24:42] california court appointed
[3:24:43] special advocates association or
[3:24:45] cal costs in support of sb four
[3:24:48] fifty six thank you. Thank you
[3:24:51] next we will go to line number.
[3:25:00] three fifty one. He won. Hello
[3:25:05] where. Hi my name is brad
[3:25:10] richards mobile cooperative
[3:25:11] local one eighty I miss support
[3:25:13] a fifty twenty one. Thank you
[3:25:17] next we'll go to line numbers
[3:25:19] thirty two please go ahead. I am
[3:25:23] not found open front support
[3:25:24] thank you so much. Thank for the
[3:25:30] next to a bottom line number for
[3:25:31] all. Five okay the only park on
[3:25:36] behalf of replace the youth and
[3:25:38] the part. Thank you an actual to
[3:25:42] line number. Three ninety eight.
[3:25:45] mandarin be on behalf of the
[3:25:48] california alliance family
[3:25:49] services in shock report. Thank
[3:25:52] you and we do not have any more
[3:25:54] in the queue manager. Thank you
[3:25:57] madam moderator. Thank you to
[3:25:59] all our support in opposition
[3:26:01] witnesses will now bring the
[3:26:03] discussion back to our members.
[3:26:05] seeing no discussion or
[3:26:08] questions from our members-
[3:26:11] senator when would you like to
[3:26:12] close. On behalf of senator
[3:26:14] mandatory surplus from the vote
[3:26:18] . We have motion. Follow the
[3:26:21] plan thank you senator umberg we
[3:26:22] have a motion that I'm secretary
[3:26:25] please call the roll. The senate
[3:26:26] bill for thirty six for senator
[3:26:28] menjivar the motion is to pass
[3:26:29] and refer the committee on human
[3:26:31] services center wiener. Wiener
[3:26:33] hi but chau book I the troubled
[3:26:35] by blix verify like spare us
[3:26:37] camaro cortese mcguire padilla.
[3:26:41] there are two. Zero two five
[3:26:44] skinner number. Number five the
[3:26:48] house. Five the vote is five
[3:26:53] zero will the role open our and
[3:26:55] caps members thank you in work.
[3:26:57] check okay were I think centers
[3:27:01] . Will be presenting on behalf
[3:27:03] of center caballero just on our
[3:27:05] way- back so we'll first pause
[3:27:11] to eight. The centers for about
[3:27:12] three level other bill in the.
[3:27:21] nineteen this please call me or
[3:27:23] come back. This year's. This is
[3:27:34] a rural voters skinner number of
[3:27:37] with. Twenty three. She was a
[3:27:42] yeah. Okay so- have two bills
[3:27:46] vice cover that will present by
[3:27:48] centers will start with item
[3:27:51] five as b. Thirty so. He. Thank
[3:27:59] you of chair and members please
[3:28:01] to present sb three seven behalf
[3:28:02] of kerr. Sb thirty seven create
[3:28:04] a program to per house subsidy
[3:28:06] to all adults. It and adults
[3:28:07] with disabilities who are x. Or
[3:28:08] are at risk of experiencing
[3:28:10] homelessness. We know that folks
[3:28:13] with who are older car rather
[3:28:15] californians who are older or
[3:28:18] with disabilities are finding it
[3:28:20] in. Creasing lee difficult to
[3:28:22] afford the high cost of housing
[3:28:26] . And with their fixed incomes
[3:28:28] that they live on our in
[3:28:30] adequate to cover rising rents.
[3:28:33] for extremely low income renters
[3:28:34] roughly eight out of ten spend
[3:28:36] more than 50% of their monthly
[3:28:39] income on rent. People with
[3:28:40] disabilities comprise about 46%
[3:28:44] of those who experience
[3:28:45] homelessness an african american
[3:28:47] households are more than five
[3:28:48] times as likely to experience
[3:28:50] homelessness as compared to.
[3:28:53] general population californians
[3:28:55] . So while there are programs
[3:28:56] such as the home safe program in
[3:28:58] the homeless disability program.
[3:29:00] there is no comprehensive state
[3:29:02] program to provide housing
[3:29:04] subsidies for older and disabled
[3:29:06] adults who are on fixed incomes.
[3:29:08] and housing vouchers such as
[3:29:10] section eight and other things
[3:29:12] like that often can take years
[3:29:14] for applicants to access there's
[3:29:16] most of us know they have long
[3:29:19] waiting lists. And the only
[3:29:20] accommodate fraction of eligible
[3:29:22] applicants so what sb thirty
[3:29:25] seven does is provide a rent
[3:29:26] subsidy targeted to those older
[3:29:28] adults and the adults with
[3:29:31] disabilities. Who are homeless
[3:29:31] or at high risk of falling into
[3:29:33] homelessness it establishes the
[3:29:36] older adults and adults with
[3:29:37] disability housing stability act
[3:29:40] within the department of housing
[3:29:43] and community development. To
[3:29:43] administer an offer competitive
[3:29:44] grants to nonprofit
[3:29:46] organizations continuum's of
[3:29:48] care and other organizations
[3:29:50] that can provide the service. In
[3:29:52] the grantees will provide
[3:29:54] subsidies to help older adults
[3:29:56] and adults with disabilities
[3:29:57] remain housed with the subsidies
[3:30:00] covering the difference between
[3:30:02] 30% of households. Income in the
[3:30:06] units reasonable rent. By
[3:30:07] investing in subsea such as this
[3:30:08] we can help. These californians
[3:30:12] who deserve to be house and with
[3:30:14] that I would like to have dr
[3:30:16] markel margo shell- who is a
[3:30:20] researcher on homelessness and
[3:30:22] sharon rappaport from the-
[3:30:25] california state policy for the
[3:30:26] corporation for supportive
[3:30:29] housing be the witnesses. Thank
[3:30:30] you senator skinner nice to see
[3:30:32] you again and mark because shall
[3:30:33] from ucsf. Do we know that
[3:30:35] california's homeless population
[3:30:37] is aging. In our recent
[3:30:39] statewide study of homelessness
[3:30:41] almost half of all adults
[3:30:43] experiencing homelessness in the
[3:30:44] state are now fifty and older.
[3:30:47] we know from our research as
[3:30:48] adults were fifteen older and
[3:30:50] homeless have health problems
[3:30:51] much more similar to those of
[3:30:53] adults in their seventies and
[3:30:55] eighties and approx me half of
[3:30:56] them first become homeless after
[3:30:59] fifty. These are not folks with
[3:31:01] a lot of significant substance
[3:31:03] use and mental health problems
[3:31:04] but their house is terrible.
[3:31:07] very how you to emergency
[3:31:08] departments very high use of
[3:31:11] hospitalizations prolonged and
[3:31:12] avoidable stays in nursing homes
[3:31:14] and they die at three and a half
[3:31:16] times the rate that they would
[3:31:18] be expected had they been house.
[3:31:20] california's housing
[3:31:21] affordability crisis
[3:31:22] disproportionately impacts older
[3:31:24] adults they're more likely to be
[3:31:26] severely cost burdened and this
[3:31:27] disproportionately affects older
[3:31:29] black californians as well.
[3:31:32] let's say in our longitudinal.
[3:31:35] study of older homeless adults.
[3:31:37] the good is 80% became re housed
[3:31:39] over the course of the study the
[3:31:41] bad news is 50% of those who
[3:31:43] regained housing became homeless
[3:31:44] again. Within about a year of
[3:31:46] becoming every getting their
[3:31:48] housing the only thing that
[3:31:50] prevented that. With subsidies
[3:31:52] the folks a subsidy state house
[3:31:53] to everyone else just returned
[3:31:56] nearly announced returned to the
[3:31:57] streets. Homelessness among
[3:31:58] older adults is reaching crisis
[3:32:00] proportions in their states
[3:32:01] subsidies for these individuals
[3:32:03] at high risk of homelessness and
[3:32:05] those who recently exited
[3:32:06] homelessness. Are in evidence
[3:32:08] bay based way to prevent this
[3:32:10] catastrophe would be happy to
[3:32:13] take any questions if you have
[3:32:15] them. Good afternoon sharon
[3:32:19] members I'm sure in report with
[3:32:21] the corporation for supportive
[3:32:22] housing a national nonprofit
[3:32:24] working to solve homelessness.
[3:32:25] we are one of five sponsors of-
[3:32:28] sb thirty seven. Sb thirty seven
[3:32:31] offerings offers proven
[3:32:32] interventions to achieving the
[3:32:34] master of the california master
[3:32:36] planned for aging goal of
[3:32:37] preventing and ending
[3:32:39] homelessness among older adults
[3:32:41] . As the analysis suggested and
[3:32:42] doctor crystal mentioned housing
[3:32:45] subsidies are one of the most
[3:32:46] successful interventions in
[3:32:48] preventing and solving
[3:32:49] homelessness. Unlike other state
[3:32:52] programs as b. Thirty seven uses
[3:32:54] a flexible approach to providing
[3:32:56] housing subsidies. They can find
[3:32:58] shallow subsidies to allow
[3:32:59] people on fixed incomes to
[3:33:01] remain house. And a few local
[3:33:03] programs follow this model of
[3:33:04] funding subsidies- and have
[3:33:07] found that as little as two
[3:33:09] hundred dollars a month. Can
[3:33:10] keep somebody and housing-
[3:33:12] safely for the rest of their
[3:33:15] lives. It also allows local
[3:33:16] grantees are for deep subsidies
[3:33:18] for those who are experiencing
[3:33:20] homelessness. The most
[3:33:22] challenging task of crafting a
[3:33:23] prevention program is
[3:33:25] identifying people who would
[3:33:27] become homeless without the
[3:33:28] assistance so as to be thirty
[3:33:31] seven uses data from the
[3:33:32] california policy lab. To
[3:33:33] identify risk factors and
[3:33:35] predictors and added in a five
[3:33:37] people most likely to fall into
[3:33:39] homelessness. In this way as b.
[3:33:42] thirty seven is unique as it
[3:33:44] dedicates resources to those
[3:33:45] truly at risk of homelessness.
[3:33:47] three one time funding the
[3:33:48] program would serve tens of
[3:33:50] thousands of older adults and
[3:33:51] people with disability at the
[3:33:53] greatest risk of becoming
[3:33:54] homeless. The similar to other
[3:33:56] state programs finally this
[3:33:59] program calls on the state to
[3:34:00] connect participants to federal
[3:34:02] vouchers. For their making this
[3:34:07] program unique. We senator cover
[3:34:08] yet as leadership senator
[3:34:09] scanners on this bill and we ask
[3:34:12] for your aye vote thank you.
[3:34:15] digital support. Benji with
[3:34:19] inner city law center where skid
[3:34:21] row's pro bono legal services
[3:34:22] visor and we serve homeless
[3:34:23] folks throughout la county- very
[3:34:27] third support this bill. Because
[3:34:31] the on behalf of western center
[3:34:33] on law and poverty in support.
[3:34:36] is this on their behalf of
[3:34:37] madera county board of
[3:34:39] supervisors and support thanks.
[3:34:43] rebecca markets on behalf of two
[3:34:45] of the bill's co sponsors
[3:34:46] leading h. California and
[3:34:47] justice in aging thank you.
[3:34:52] amberley leslie with housing
[3:34:53] california in support of a ski.
[3:35:00] thirty seven. March the average
[3:35:01] for the california housing
[3:35:02] partnership in support thank you
[3:35:05] . A brian leahy- aarp volunteer-
[3:35:08] on behalf of a three point two
[3:35:11] million members in support.
[3:35:13] thank you any additional
[3:35:14] support- in the room. Thirty
[3:35:19] nine is there any opposition to
[3:35:20] this bill we have no registered
[3:35:21] opposition but anyone here
[3:35:23] opposition. Focusing on will
[3:35:25] open the phone lines for the
[3:35:27] moderator please see if there's
[3:35:29] anyone on the line for this bill
[3:35:31] . You are in support or
[3:35:33] opposition sb thirty seven it's
[3:35:36] one then zero. And we will start
[3:35:39] with my number one thirty q. My
[3:35:46] number one thirty two your line
[3:35:47] is open. Sorry we will move on
[3:35:53] to the next here and it is my
[3:35:55] number four oh six please go
[3:35:58] ahead. Mister chairman burke
[3:36:01] anderson up top of the arc in
[3:36:03] united terrible of the
[3:36:04] california coalition a
[3:36:06] collaboration excuse me and we
[3:36:08] have a support system thank you
[3:36:11] . Thank you and we do not have
[3:36:13] anymore in the queue. Okay will
[3:36:17] report to the committee any
[3:36:18] questions or comments colleagues
[3:36:20] senator boxer. She added the
[3:36:22] information that you shared
[3:36:23] senator skinner and also the
[3:36:25] testimony today it was all very
[3:36:26] persuasive and I'm really
[3:36:27] excited about supporting this
[3:36:28] bill thank you for the motion is
[3:36:30] a motion. For an emotional
[3:36:31] center place for any other
[3:36:33] questions or comments thirty
[3:36:35] nine- you may close on behalf of
[3:36:37] senator copyright ask for your
[3:36:38] I. Boats terrific we will call
[3:36:42] the roll. But I'm recommending
[3:36:44] an aye vote. The senate thirty
[3:36:45] seven messana where most to pass
[3:36:48] referred committee on human
[3:36:49] services senator wiener. Wiener
[3:36:51] I trouble I the troubled by
[3:36:54] clicks here five six hereby
[3:36:55] cover. Partisi. Courtesy hi
[3:37:00] require for the a fair to. Their
[3:37:04] to five skinner five skinner I-
[3:37:06] burke number five will. Okay
[3:37:11] voters seven zero will put bill
[3:37:13] on call for apps members. We're
[3:37:14] now going roads were final bill
[3:37:16] and speak two two five center
[3:37:19] caballero I will also be
[3:37:20] presented by centers skinner.
[3:37:22] percent thank you mister chair
[3:37:23] members pleased to present s. B.
[3:37:26] two two five on behalf of
[3:37:27] senator cafiero. The bill
[3:37:29] creates the community anti
[3:37:31] displacement preservation
[3:37:33] program for cap within the
[3:37:36] department of housing and
[3:37:36] community development. In that
[3:37:38] program will provide financial
[3:37:39] resources and technical capacity
[3:37:41] building to community
[3:37:43] organizations and local
[3:37:44] jurisdictions that which to
[3:37:46] acquire funds subsidized housing
[3:37:49] from the speculative market
[3:37:51] where the residents in that
[3:37:53] housing are at risk for
[3:37:56] displacement. And then the after
[3:37:58] the purchase would preserve it
[3:37:59] as affordable rental housing for
[3:38:01] homeownership opportunity. A
[3:38:04] large majority of low income
[3:38:05] californians live in
[3:38:07] unsubsidized affordable housing
[3:38:10] housing which is privately owned
[3:38:12] and currently somewhat
[3:38:14] affordable to low income
[3:38:15] households but of course over
[3:38:17] time may not be or could be sold
[3:38:19] in might not be. So due to a
[3:38:21] variety of reasons this unserved
[3:38:23] diced affordable housing is
[3:38:25] rapidly disappearing in response
[3:38:27] local communities have begun to
[3:38:30] acquire it. And preserve it the
[3:38:33] strategy is known as acquisition
[3:38:35] rehabilitation. Or act recap.
[3:38:40] yeah under. This new pro cap hcd
[3:38:43] would admit. A program to
[3:38:45] provide grants and loans for
[3:38:47] applicants an eligible borrowers
[3:38:49] such as nonprofits are local
[3:38:50] public entities such as housing
[3:38:52] trusts. Can help offset the cost
[3:38:55] to acquire and rehabilitate fund
[3:38:58] subsidized market rate housing.
[3:39:00] s. B. Two two five also creates
[3:39:02] a technical assistance program
[3:39:04] to support cap borrowers by
[3:39:06] providing peer to peer learning
[3:39:08] and consultation to assist with
[3:39:10] resident engagement in education
[3:39:12] property assessment affordable
[3:39:14] housing operations and a
[3:39:16] spectrum of ownership and
[3:39:17] stewardship models. So that the
[3:39:20] any- are borrowers under the cap
[3:39:22] program can be sus successful-
[3:39:26] so this is an innovative
[3:39:27] partnership that will help
[3:39:28] preserve housing that is
[3:39:30] currently affordable but is not
[3:39:32] in any kind of program to
[3:39:34] preserve its long term put
[3:39:36] affordability. And to testify in
[3:39:38] support we have just seen
[3:39:39] markets from the enterprise
[3:39:40] community partners and amber lee
[3:39:42] leslie with housing california.
[3:39:47] welcome thank you senator
[3:39:50] skinner and thank you mister
[3:39:51] chair and committee members my
[3:39:53] name is justin markets and I'm
[3:39:55] the policy director with
[3:39:56] enterprise community partners in
[3:39:58] our northern california office.
[3:40:00] enterprise is a national
[3:40:01] nonprofit that develops
[3:40:03] technical and capacity building
[3:40:05] programs advocates for policies
[3:40:07] and delivers the capital to
[3:40:08] create and preserve affordable
[3:40:10] housing for low income families.
[3:40:12] we're proud to co sponsor s. B.
[3:40:15] two two five authored by senator
[3:40:16] cafiero to create the cap
[3:40:19] program. Through enterprises
[3:40:20] work both in california and
[3:40:22] across the country we've seen
[3:40:24] first hand that there's no
[3:40:25] silver bullet to addressing our
[3:40:27] housing and homelessness crisis
[3:40:29] we need a comprehensive approach
[3:40:31] and preservation specifically
[3:40:33] acquisition we have which is the
[3:40:35] focus of this bill. Is an
[3:40:37] important tool in the state's
[3:40:38] toolbox to promote affordability
[3:40:41] prevent displacement and prevent
[3:40:42] homelessness. For a communities
[3:40:45] across the state local nonprofit
[3:40:47] organizations community land
[3:40:49] trust cities housing authorities
[3:40:51] have been doing this type of
[3:40:52] innovative acquisition work over
[3:40:55] for over a decade. As a senator
[3:40:58] described these organizations
[3:40:59] are purchasing rental housing
[3:41:01] from the private market were low
[3:41:02] income households live today and
[3:41:04] preserving it as deed restricted
[3:41:07] affordable housing for the long
[3:41:08] term. Cap was envisioned and
[3:41:10] designed based on the lessons
[3:41:12] learned and best practices from
[3:41:13] these local efforts the design
[3:41:15] of this program is grounded in
[3:41:17] this engagement with local
[3:41:18] practitioners. As well as
[3:41:20] lessons learned from other state
[3:41:22] programs at the housing
[3:41:23] community development
[3:41:24] department. We modeled at this
[3:41:26] program off of the success of
[3:41:28] each city's golden state
[3:41:28] acquisition fund which for over
[3:41:30] a decade has provided
[3:41:32] acquisition capital for land to
[3:41:34] build new housing. Cap is
[3:41:36] designed in this model as a
[3:41:38] partnership between each city
[3:41:40] and nonprofit lenders who can
[3:41:42] distribute program funds quickly
[3:41:43] and efficiently to the
[3:41:45] nonprofits and public sector
[3:41:47] partners they need to purchase
[3:41:48] these residential buildings at
[3:41:50] the speed of the private market
[3:41:52] . These nonprofit developers
[3:41:54] community based organizations
[3:41:56] housing authorities will then
[3:41:57] manage these buildings as deed
[3:41:59] restricted affordable housing
[3:42:02] either rental or homeownership.
[3:42:04] we like to say acquisition
[3:42:06] preservation is a to bird one
[3:42:09] seat approach the program both
[3:42:09] prevents displacement and
[3:42:11] homelessness for residents
[3:42:12] living in these buildings today
[3:42:13] while also growing our supply of
[3:42:15] deed restricted affordable homes
[3:42:17] for decades to come. It is a
[3:42:19] fast and efficient strategy
[3:42:21] would deals closing in months
[3:42:22] rather than years and also often
[3:42:25] has cost efficiency is relative
[3:42:27] to new construction. We hear
[3:42:29] from our local partners
[3:42:30] regularly about the impact of
[3:42:32] their acquisition rehab efforts
[3:42:34] the families were able to stay
[3:42:35] in their communities close to
[3:42:36] jobs and schools. But we also
[3:42:38] hear about the missed
[3:42:40] opportunities the community
[3:42:41] minded landlord for example
[3:42:43] who's approaching retirement and
[3:42:44] wants to ensure the stability of
[3:42:46] their tenants. And sell to a non
[3:42:48] profit organization rather than
[3:42:50] institutional investor. But
[3:42:52] there's not currently a state
[3:42:53] program for these organizations
[3:42:56] to utilize in these instances.
[3:42:57] sb two to five in cap were
[3:42:59] designed to fill this gap and we
[3:43:01] respectfully urge your aye vote
[3:43:02] to support continuing to move
[3:43:04] this bill forward and this
[3:43:05] conversation forward this year
[3:43:07] happy to answer any questions
[3:43:08] thank you. Correct thank you
[3:43:14] chair wiener members of the
[3:43:15] committee my name is amber lee
[3:43:17] leslie I'm a legislative
[3:43:19] advocate with housing
[3:43:19] california. One of the proud co
[3:43:22] sponsors of this bill. Housing
[3:43:24] california we're statewide
[3:43:26] advocacy organization that
[3:43:27] brings together a diverse multi
[3:43:29] sector network to prevent and
[3:43:32] end homelessness increase the
[3:43:33] supply of safe. Stable
[3:43:35] affordable housing options and
[3:43:37] reverse the legacy of racial and
[3:43:40] economic injustice. Published
[3:43:41] our work by building power among
[3:43:43] the people most impacted by the
[3:43:44] housing and justice- and
[3:43:46] advocating for statewide policy
[3:43:48] solutions. So the idea before
[3:43:50] you today the cap program I was
[3:43:52] born from the work of the stable
[3:43:54] homes california coalition of
[3:43:56] which are organizations are part
[3:43:58] in a press community partners
[3:43:59] and housing california. To
[3:44:01] create housing policy solutions
[3:44:02] that responded to the economic
[3:44:05] strains placed upon vulnerable
[3:44:07] communities at the height of the
[3:44:08] pandemic. Since twenty twenty
[3:44:10] our coalition of cap supporters
[3:44:11] has grown to include community
[3:44:13] development corporations.
[3:44:15] community land trusts nonprofit
[3:44:17] housing developers intent
[3:44:19] advocacy groups and so far
[3:44:22] ninety five organizations have
[3:44:23] endorsed the cap program.
[3:44:25] capitalizes a strategy for
[3:44:27] growing california's housing
[3:44:28] stock that was will rise by
[3:44:30] project home key. But cap is
[3:44:32] unique because it provides
[3:44:33] critical resources to protect
[3:44:35] existing housing units without
[3:44:37] long term affordability
[3:44:38] covenants from being lost to the
[3:44:40] speculative housing market- I
[3:44:43] just wanna share a bit of data
[3:44:45] that. Is going to be cut
[3:44:46] forthcoming in a report from-
[3:44:48] one of the state homes coalition
[3:44:50] members a california housing
[3:44:51] partnership. The estimate that
[3:44:53] over a hundred and twenty
[3:44:55] thousand multi family know what
[3:44:56] properties lost affordability in
[3:44:58] just the last two years since we
[3:45:00] as a coalition have been working
[3:45:01] on this policy. And most of
[3:45:03] those have been in southern
[3:45:05] california in the bay area and
[3:45:06] fresno and san diego and also
[3:45:07] here in sacramento. So the
[3:45:09] legislature must continue to
[3:45:11] invest in programs that keep for
[3:45:13] housing- and create more
[3:45:15] housing. A couple keep low
[3:45:17] income californians in their
[3:45:18] homes and increase the supply of
[3:45:21] affordable housing more swiftly
[3:45:22] than the- a is your swiftly and
[3:45:24] effectively than the car. The
[3:45:25] new production therefore we
[3:45:27] respectfully urge I thought
[3:45:28] thank you for indulging at. Five
[3:45:35] march there's the california
[3:45:36] housing partnership in support
[3:45:37] of this innovative approach to
[3:45:39] keep affordable what we already
[3:45:40] have thank you. But the merging
[3:45:44] with an early intercity
[3:45:46] lawcenter stocks for investors
[3:45:47] to do five. So you just. Simply
[3:45:50] because the on behalf of western
[3:45:52] center on law and poverty in
[3:45:54] support. Eddie carmona camping's
[3:45:57] rectorate people california in
[3:46:00] strong support of s. B. Two two
[3:46:02] five. Building report with the
[3:46:03] corporation for supportive
[3:46:05] housing in strong support. Good
[3:46:09] evening turn members on this for
[3:46:10] almost on the of a public
[3:46:11] advocates as co sponsors of sb
[3:46:14] two to five in strong support.
[3:46:15] thank you. Good afternoon. Mr
[3:46:20] chairman members of the
[3:46:21] philadelphia cranks here on
[3:46:22] behalf of silicon valley at home
[3:46:24] action fund in strong support.
[3:46:27] abram deals of the nonprofit
[3:46:28] housing association or the
[3:46:30] californians support. Your
[3:46:34] members michael getting here on
[3:46:35] behalf of us for habitat for
[3:46:38] california and also united way
[3:46:41] of los angeles in support thank
[3:46:43] you. Thank you. Any other-
[3:46:45] support. Okay three nine will
[3:46:48] get opposition we've never
[3:46:49] registered opposition but if
[3:46:51] there is opposition please come
[3:46:52] forward. Okay see now will go to
[3:46:55] the phone lines for the-
[3:46:57] moderator please queue up any
[3:47:00] public comment on the phones.
[3:47:03] your in support or opposition of
[3:47:05] s. P. Two twenty five london
[3:47:08] zero. And we will start with my
[3:47:12] number four oh nine. Service.
[3:47:18] six four nine your line is open
[3:47:22] . Hey we will move to the next
[3:47:25] line of for ten please go ahead
[3:47:28] sir. Senate bill five. The
[3:47:33] simpsons for had. It was
[3:47:37] reverend ray fong number have
[3:47:38] now the grass been just a fully
[3:47:41] yeah behind and fifty or ninety
[3:47:42] chandler. The state of. And
[3:47:45] trump- also I am reading from
[3:47:47] fort frances fox from orange
[3:47:50] county. Yes. Thank you will go
[3:47:55] to law up all for call. My
[3:48:03] number four oh for your line is
[3:48:05] open. Okay we will move to line
[3:48:11] number for all h. Please go
[3:48:14] ahead. Thank you karen members
[3:48:16] dealing dobbins with the
[3:48:17] california coalition for rural
[3:48:19] housing strong support. And we
[3:48:25] have. Four oh nine- committee
[3:48:30] members building with the san
[3:48:31] diego confederations when strong
[3:48:33] supporter that's b. Two two five
[3:48:35] thank you. Thank you and we do
[3:48:37] not have any more in q. Mister
[3:48:40] chair converted back to the
[3:48:41] committee- colleagues any
[3:48:42] questions or comments about this
[3:48:44] bill. Senate race here yes all
[3:48:48] move motion by center books for-
[3:48:50] any else- greased- yes and
[3:48:53] although I just have a question
[3:48:55] so. With this bill- known as
[3:49:01] vehicles here we have a to pass
[3:49:03] on the cost of effective way to
[3:49:04] increase supply of affordable
[3:49:06] homes in california so we're
[3:49:07] doing is we're taking. What
[3:49:10] would be in regular housing.
[3:49:13] homes and placing them in this
[3:49:14] category the becomes affordable
[3:49:16] sustain christmas supply right
[3:49:18] it's just. This is shifting from
[3:49:23] one. One area to another area or
[3:49:25] I can answer- hi it would take
[3:49:29] it out of the speculative
[3:49:31] markets so in other words it is
[3:49:33] housing now and I'm sure all of
[3:49:35] us know of some properties in
[3:49:37] our areas where. For whatever
[3:49:39] reason the owners have kept them
[3:49:41] affordable either there's
[3:49:44] sometimes its absentee owner
[3:49:46] sometimes it's an owner with
[3:49:47] lots of properties and they just
[3:49:49] you know they- have- are. But
[3:49:52] when they sell. Ab it- then is-
[3:49:56] brought up to a market level and
[3:49:57] the people who are living there
[3:49:59] can no longer afford so what
[3:50:01] this would do is create a
[3:50:02] program to help support those
[3:50:04] entities that want to purchase
[3:50:06] these type of properties and
[3:50:07] already in my district we have a
[3:50:09] number of community land trusts
[3:50:11] that have been doing this for
[3:50:13] some time. And so we have a
[3:50:14] number of properties that were
[3:50:16] that are now permanently
[3:50:18] affordable or thirty five year
[3:50:20] you know deed restricted in
[3:50:21] such. That weird then the
[3:50:23] tenants are- you know are able
[3:50:25] to afford it no have confidence
[3:50:27] that they're going to be able to
[3:50:29] afford it for long term. So it's
[3:50:31] yes it is it is not increase
[3:50:34] supply however it keeps certain
[3:50:36] housing that otherwise wouldn't
[3:50:39] be affordable. But their
[3:50:41] portable because we're
[3:50:42] subsidizing not necessarily no.
[3:50:46] it's it- it it's more that we
[3:50:49] are supporting the- those
[3:50:52] entities that want to try to
[3:50:54] purchase this type of program.
[3:50:56] this type of a building there
[3:50:58] might be a- armed. I'm trying to
[3:51:01] understand the concepts it would
[3:51:02] initially help. The so if I'm
[3:51:05] that land trust for example the
[3:51:08] way they can programs
[3:51:09] constructed. That if it succeeds
[3:51:12] in is approved and signed into
[3:51:13] law. That there might be grants
[3:51:16] or loans to that land trusts for
[3:51:18] example or another entity that
[3:51:20] is trying to buy that it's not
[3:51:22] an ongoing subsidy it's not
[3:51:23] something that. Continues to be
[3:51:25] subsidized overtime it's more de
[3:51:28] initial helps and do the initial
[3:51:30] acquisition were the initial
[3:51:32] rehab. So the grants to make it
[3:51:34] so that it becomes affordable it
[3:51:36] may not it it makes it in in
[3:51:38] naples the entities trying to
[3:51:40] purchase it to purchase it or re
[3:51:43] habit. Then the entity itself
[3:51:44] does. The deed restriction it
[3:51:49] keeps affordable. Okay thank you
[3:51:52] . But if. Any other questions or
[3:51:55] comments. Okay see now we have a
[3:51:58] motion by simply experience
[3:52:00] center center you may close- I
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[3:52:03] my description of my own
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[3:56:02] bill is house. Wonderful four
[3:56:07] hours and fifteen minutes not
[3:56:09] too bad- I want to. Thank all
[3:56:12] the members for persevering
[3:56:14] through a lengthy hearing a very
[3:56:15] good discussion if you want to
[3:56:18] thank our staffs- for is always
[3:56:19] doing amazing job in all of the
[3:56:20] supporters and opponents of all
[3:56:22] the bills who came out today
[3:56:23] thank you everyone I'm without-
[3:56:28] this hearing is adjourned.