1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,520 What a mistake. >> Yeah. Yeah. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,520 Shut off the air. 3 00:00:10,559 --> 00:00:13,960 » No, they didn't. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:27,800 » That's flow through ventilation. You just open 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,800 the window. Yeah. 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,239 Where you going to live? >> Oh, yes. 7 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:44,120 » I got it. 8 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:01,640 » You don't even know what the address is at school. Um, yeah. 205 9 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:10,400 down there. >> Try 205 West Parkway Drive. 10 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:13,960 » I can go way down. >> Ben's going to be outside. 11 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:18,280 Maybe you might drive on 12 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:21,930 [laughter] 13 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:45,479 » All right, let's get started. Okay, >> we'll call meeting order and start with 14 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:45,479 the uh 15 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:55,119 » I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 16 00:01:52,320 --> 00:02:01,799 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 17 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:01,799 justice for all. 18 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,440 » Roll call. Yep. 19 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,640 » McGinley here. >> Here. 20 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:13,640 » Yep. 21 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:20,640 » All right. Um, public committee. Yes, Adam. Sick's not 22 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,640 here yet. So, we're going to do new business. 23 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,959 Starting with the approval purchase of trailer. 24 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Uh, this is actually taking the place of the water truck, right? 25 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:38,879 » Yes. Get out of that truck and get a trailer. It's cheaper all the way 26 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,760 around, more effective, more efficient. I don't have to keep picking stuff up 27 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,480 and put on a truck and bring it up around. 28 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:48,400 » Thanks. >> Perfect. Thank you. 29 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:52,976 » Put shelves in it, but and seal floor, but other than that, 30 00:02:50,956 --> 00:02:52,976 [laughter] 31 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:06,080 » how much was 6,000? >> 6,000. It was a private individual. Yes, 32 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:12,319 private individual. Double axle. 7,000. He knows it's got a uh basically wall 33 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:17,440 locker already in it with shelves in it. Spare tire. 34 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:22,080 I threw in the uh receiver 2 and 516 receiver with 4 in drop. 35 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:27,840 » So, put anything on top or anything. >> Uh we can uh it does have lights. It 36 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:31,760 does have a uh thing for a ladder on the outside. You can put ladder hang a 37 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:37,440 ladder on the outside. Plenty of room to get all of our tools in there. secure 38 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:42,159 them. Locks on the back. Uh have our wet weather gear in there. Put a heater in 39 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,920 there for winter time to get a mobile workshop. 40 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:49,120 » Yes. Yes. >> We can take we can have one truck with 41 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:53,120 trailer and another vehicle i.e. backo whatever. So 42 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:56,080 » So get a truck from the county as we sell. 43 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:02,000 » So take that and run. So I would for a 44 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,159 motion to purchase that truck. >> I'll make that motion. Second, I have a 45 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:12,799 motion and a second to approve the purchase of this 2017 trailer 46 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:16,280 coming from the water. >> All in favor? 47 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:24,160 » All right. Uh, next we were going to talk about 48 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,240 permit fees. These were building permit fees, correct? 49 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:32,639 » Also, are would that be different than the 50 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:38,160 permit fees that they have now? are going to be required to put through DNR. 51 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:43,680 » Uh DNR has their own set. I started doing inspections today with uh Jeff 52 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:47,800 Matthews from Union County. Very eye opening. U 53 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:58,080 they have to apply for a permit with >> they have to do the permit through DNR 54 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:05,199 if it is substantial damage over the 50% mark. If it is a if they are in the 55 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:10,800 flood way automatic BNR permit and automatic femur rule standard 56 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:16,560 has to be raised to the uh 57 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:21,680 » the two base flood elevation. Thank you. There will be a sheep with where their 58 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:25,600 ass is now level it is now. Uh one today over on Front Street. Basically, Front 59 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:31,120 Street is going to be at least seven to 10 ft raised for every 60 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:37,759 house on >> Front Street from 61 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:43,039 » from Center Street back over to Pum both sides. 62 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:46,560 » Has anybody told somebody in particular? >> She is not in the floodway. 63 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:51,680 » Oh, but go ahead. >> Okay. Uh, no, I have not. If they want 64 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:57,120 to see the floodway, they can get on Snider Beacon, pull that up, go to Wayne 65 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:04,160 County, go down to FEMA risk, click that, and 66 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:08,080 that uh NR has their own portal. >> Yes. Yes. DNR has their own portal that 67 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,919 you can see and they can go on the DNR portal, too, and it'll show that flood 68 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:17,440 zone all the way through town. One end of town is the other. This is going to 69 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,520 take a while. I employ it takes about 15 minutes. You got to go 70 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:25,680 out, measure everything, go back to the office. It takes about 15 minutes per to 71 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,240 run those numbers. >> If there isn't substantial damage, the 72 00:06:27,919 --> 00:06:33,120 house doesn't have to be raised. >> If they're not in floodway, if they're 73 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:36,319 in the floodway, >> if they're in the floodway, yes. 74 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,280 » Period. Has to be >> has to be. 75 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:44,560 » Even if it's steam house, >> if it's in the floodway, it's DNR 76 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:49,199 permit. It has to be brought to base flood rate. 77 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:53,919 » Even if it's just nominally damaged or it's in the flood way, it has to be 78 00:06:52,319 --> 00:07:01,599 raised. >> So if the if a substantial if it's over 79 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:05,199 50% of substantial damage or substantial in that floodway, it has to be raised. 80 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:10,400 » That's what I just asked. But if it's not substantially damaged yet, 81 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,680 » if if there is a home in the floodway, from what I gathered today, after 82 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:18,319 everything I've done, if it's in the floodway, it has to come 83 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,599 to two feet above that. 84 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,560 » Even the ones that didn't have any damage, 85 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:29,680 » that's what I'm being told. Again, >> looks like they'd be grandfathered in or 86 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,720 something. >> That's true. Well, then that makes it 87 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:37,280 sound like a house that's not damaged and a house that's 80% damaged are being 88 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:42,400 treated the same way. >> So, a house that has probably billions 89 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:46,240 of bricks in it >> is going to be raised. 90 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,680 » There is a sheet. I can show you this sheet and we can go off of this sheet. 91 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:57,039 I'm just going off of what >> I got I have done today. 92 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,960 That's all I can tell you. Is the is the guy that you're meeting with is is he 93 00:07:59,039 --> 00:08:04,080 DNR is that or is he just >> No, he is the planning and zoning for 94 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,199 Union County. >> That is who 95 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,240 from DNR. >> Okay. 96 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:14,240 » And he has contact now >> and he has been down in F County dealing 97 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,280 with them to >> So what does that do to the city 98 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,639 building? >> I've not measured that yet. 99 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:25,039 » We're not in the flood. >> Yeah, we're in the French. No, I mean 100 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,000 the power or the water plant that's if that's not in the 101 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,639 » businesses are different. Business are this is residential businesses are 102 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,959 different now. >> So government is something 103 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:38,959 » this is the residential site. >> I think we're still learning a lot 104 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:43,360 because I just started yesterday. >> Yeah, I got on there last night and I 105 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,680 was trying to figure this out on that site 106 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:52,880 and I I couldn't find the key to the map. There were certain it was striped 107 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:57,839 like closest to the river and then it turned a different color like on Shirt 108 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:02,320 Street and I couldn't find the key that So you mentioned the floodway like 109 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:08,800 » it'll say right in there. It'll say 500 year and it'll have an AE code in there. 110 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:13,440 » Maybe I didn't look the right thing. is a legend. You have to 111 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:17,680 » I I didn't find I couldn't find the >> So, at any rate, before we get into this 112 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:22,000 too much and make this too much, I think what we need to understand is there's 113 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:26,640 still a lot to learn with this and we're we're just really getting started on it. 114 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:32,560 So, that substant if you're not in the in the flood weight, you're in the 115 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:39,120 fringe. Okay? the blue area on your map when you pull it up depending on what 116 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:43,440 that percentage is and that is from and that depends on if you have a basement 117 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:50,160 because that's automatically tied in. So that's a minus 8 ft 118 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:55,519 from your from your ground elevation to up to the flood line 119 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,160 and then there's different formulas to go in there and then check. 120 00:09:57,366 --> 00:10:02,080 [clears throat] And is that the uh is that the DNR FEMA? 121 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:07,360 » Yes. >> Software program. 122 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:12,800 » Yes, that is FEMA DNR and then >> that's how that's that chain of command. 123 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Did he say did he say that there is any like obviously that's a you know there's 124 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:24,640 a software program but if there's an argument if there's a found that 125 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:30,720 something that's you know 49% or 51% or whatever if it gets to 50 is there a way 126 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:33,760 to argue that back faster than there is okay with your cost 127 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:41,760 » there's there's an appeal cost there there is your cost so there when if your 128 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:46,800 cost is It's not say 10,000, >> right? Your your improvement cost right 129 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,959 there. Your your and it's just your house, right? It's not the property. 130 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:57,279 It's not your accessory buildings. It's not it's the house. That is it. That 131 00:10:53,519 --> 00:11:00,800 value. So that's 90 $90,000. >> 50% 45, right? 132 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,959 » Yeah. >> So again, let's not make this a working. 133 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:06,079 » Yeah. Yeah. This I could redo this for hour. 134 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,160 » Yeah. >> Because this is just beginning. We got a 135 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,959 lot to learn. So I don't think we need to make this a work session about the 136 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:18,720 DNR because as Joe said there's a lot >> I'm just getting started in 137 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:22,360 » we may need to have >> that's a huge area 138 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:33,600 » but what we do need to talk about is building permits and waving the fees for 139 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:38,640 building permits. >> Yeah. Now, I'm assuming just for blood 140 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:43,120 affected people, correct? >> Yes. I I Yeah, but that's what you want 141 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:47,279 to do. I mean, our our ordinance states anything over $500. Now, about most of 142 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,680 this, they're not they're not changing the structure. They're they're going in 143 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:58,240 and rebuilding flooring and putting drywall up. That's not They're not 144 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:06,079 changing the footprint of building, >> but our ordinance states $500 145 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:11,560 $500 requires a building permit. >> So, I know I know Franklin County that 146 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,519 » are we just going to wave the fee and still require them to pick up a permit. 147 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,880 So, we have some idea. We still have to get a 148 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,959 » right. Okay. Yeah. An estimated cost. 149 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:28,800 » This is going to be for a length of time. So that mean they three years from 150 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:31,519 now they're going to add on addition to their house. 151 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,360 » September. >> Oh, this is going to take it have to be 152 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,720 a year. It's good for a year. >> I'd say a year then we revisit. 153 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:43,600 » I would say no longer than that because if they're not going to do anything in a 154 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:49,800 year, I mean we've all been filling this lighted houses trying to get done. Now 155 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,800 arguments can take a year. 156 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:58,079 I'll make a motion to wave permit fees. >> Building permit. 157 00:12:55,279 --> 00:13:03,079 » Building per fees. Thank you. >> Building permit fees for flood 158 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:03,079 survivors. 159 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:10,560 » And when you say flood survivors, that means if they're doing an improvement 160 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,079 because of the flood because everybody's kind of a flood 161 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,920 survivor. One of the identified homes one homes 162 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,160 identified as damaged by >> damaged by 163 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,680 one. >> Yes, ma'am. 164 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,760 » I'll second that. >> All right. I have a motion and 165 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:34,200 secondated to building 166 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,560 one year for 167 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,560 all in favor. 168 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:48,800 Pass. Uh, another thing Sherry brought up 169 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:53,279 waving penalties to shut off for water. >> Yeah, 170 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:57,519 we don't have the equipment to even read meters. So, 171 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:02,160 » bills. >> Um, perhaps we're going to estimate 172 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,240 bills to call in tomorrow, but Keystone's [snorts] going to help 173 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:11,760 estimate bills. Not estimate, print out paper bills. We'll see. been estimated 174 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,880 over the last three months. But >> so you just want to wait 175 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:18,720 through September. >> Yep. 176 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:21,279 » I'll make that motion. >> Second. 177 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:27,839 » I have a motion to second to wave penalties and shut off for water 178 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:32,440 throughout through September. All in favor? 179 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,440 » I post. 180 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:41,680 » Now we're back. Well, one related topic. Yeah. So, I just met with Brett Griby 181 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,880 land bank. They moved today 182 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:59,279 to support the town in possible acquisition opportunities to 183 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:04,600 help flood victims from the land. So, they don't know what that means at 184 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,600 suggestion. 185 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,920 That's that's the role of bank actually is to help situation, 186 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:15,199 » but we really don't have any what that looks like right now. I'm just letting 187 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:18,760 you know frankly it's our name on that. So they'll be back. 188 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,639 » Adam, we skipped you. Now we're back. Now we're back. 189 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:31,279 » I appreciate everyone shifting things around for me. This was unexpected to 190 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:34,959 get in the middle field somewhere. I'm assuming you guys don't have copy 191 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,880 code. All right, very good. So, what I have today to talk about are seven 192 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:43,600 different quotes for different efforts and work required. Some of these is work 193 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:48,480 that already has been completed, but most of it is work to you. Uh the top 194 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:56,160 page is just a summary sheet I put together. These are quotes and proposals 195 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:59,040 from basically everybody that works on. >> And again, number one is not a quote 196 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:03,360 invoice. >> Yes. Yeah, sorry. Quote, proposal, 197 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:09,040 invoice, u little different. I'll unintentionally use those 198 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:13,759 interchangeably a little bit. U so to go through the summary, the front page, 199 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:18,160 just rip the band-aid off. The total cost that we're looking at here is 200 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:24,000 $245,000 and a little bit more. And just step 201 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:27,839 through each one of these. The first one is from peerless. I'm just looking at 202 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:31,759 the summary sheet, but we can go through uh the attachments and get into as much 203 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,199 detail as we'd like. Please slow me down if I'm going too fast. 204 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,399 » One question of clarification, please. >> These are not things to compare one 205 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:42,000 another so that oh, we'll pick three instead of two. They could arguably all 206 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,560 be required. >> Thank you. Yes. Each of these are 207 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:52,079 independent quotes for different scopes of work. None of these are equals. Given 208 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:56,720 the timeline of this, we didn't really have the opportunity to collect. 209 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,560 So, we wanted to get these in front of you as soon as we could to get the 210 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:06,000 materials ordered is that the lead time for these materials is largely what's 211 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:12,720 driving the get back get back on um get back to where we should be for this. 212 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:16,480 So, the first one is an invoice that's from Peerless Midwest and as it says 213 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:19,919 that's for work that's already being completed. 214 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,480 This was their initial efforts to show up and get the water system back 215 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:30,640 running. But that looked like bringing their generator out, bringing the BFDs, 216 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:36,640 doing the troubleshooting, cleaning your wells to get them back on. 217 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:40,960 Uh, anything additional for the work already completed. Uh, they also 218 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:46,960 furnished two new pump motors, took your old ones away, and installed the new 219 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:53,840 ones. Got weld one and two back on. This also includes the generator and the 220 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:58,240 equipment rental up until September 4. So this first invoice is truly an 221 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:03,200 invoice of all work that is already completed. Nothing to be done. 222 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,600 » There's no question that you didn't have to get quotes for that. Um because of 223 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:12,320 the emergency nature that had to be done immediately. The others I still have 224 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:17,039 some concern. >> Yeah. To be clear, this 83,000 is the 225 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:21,480 only reason we have drinkable water right now. 226 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,480 » Yes. 227 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:30,400 » And number two would be an extension of the current situation which would cost 228 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,080 probably a lot more if we brought somebody else. 229 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,000 » Absolutely. >> Yes. They would need there would still 230 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:40,240 be an additional charge for peerlessity commission their equipment. Um, and the 231 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:46,240 rate that they're renting the equipment to you for is about 2,000 bucks a week. 232 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:50,160 And that's that's pretty with peerless, that's really just their 233 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:54,080 cost of the generator rental. And the other things are 234 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,520 » that's for six weeks. >> And since that's a service rather than a 235 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:02,080 product, also have no problem with that being 236 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:06,960 » and I'm estimating six weeks just based on the equipment lead time plus two 237 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:11,200 weeks to complete it. Maybe more than that, it may be less 238 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:15,200 than that, but I feel that's fair. >> So, and I'm sorry to jump. You mean two 239 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:19,760 weeks to do the rest of the work numbers three through six. 240 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:23,280 » So, uh two week in my mind, the perfect path is the electrical work. The 241 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:27,200 electrical work's four weeks out for the equipment. It'll take two weeks to do 242 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:32,480 that work. >> Yep. No, thanks for asking. 243 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:38,240 » Um so, that's item number two, the ongoing rent. 244 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:41,640 Any questions on the peerless invoice and flow? 245 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:56,559 » Very good. Jonas have the questions up. >> No came in and they did what needed to 246 00:19:52,799 --> 00:20:01,120 be done pretty quickly. >> Yeah, we were on board a while, but 247 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:06,720 people were only without water like 18 hours through this whole thing. So 248 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:10,679 they l they really showed up. Yeah, I did. There you go. 249 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,760 Any questions before we move on to number three? 250 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:24,320 So item number three is for materials and labor for the electrical piece. At 251 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:28,080 the high level, this is relocating all the equipment out of the bar and 252 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:35,360 basement and moving it to wellhouse number one. This is installing two new 253 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:38,960 BFDs. in that wellhouse, the one closest to your house. 254 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:43,840 » And >> yes, the larger the larger of the frame, 255 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:47,559 not the largest, but the >> the newest of the 256 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:55,919 » So, we're going to relocate, install the two new BFDs relocated from the basement 257 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:00,880 to this building. The two BFDs will be for well number one and well number two. 258 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,280 One thing I want to make sure Cal is aware of, taking a little bit of a step 259 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:10,480 back from Peerless's quote, I only said that there's two well motors in that 260 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:16,480 quote. You guys have three wells. Well, number three is not really in this 261 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:20,640 situation right now. Um, Peerless isn't willing to get in there and work on it 262 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:25,840 just yet because the floor is susceptible to giving. 263 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:31,919 Uh, so that's something that is on the list of work to need to be done. And I 264 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:37,200 don't now that's not included in any of the two either of the two quotes for you 265 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:42,799 today. So this is just to get wells one and two, which is more than adequate to 266 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:46,640 keep you guys in a flow and provide fire protection. I just wanted to clarify 267 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:49,679 that when I started to talk about the two BFDs, 268 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,880 someone might have thought we've got three and what's going on. 269 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,840 » Is it the closest one to the river? It's the problem. 270 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:59,840 » Yes. Yes. Yes. That's three. That's three. 271 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:04,480 » That's one they just cleaned last year. >> Yep. 272 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:09,200 It's not out of commission forever. Just at this time 273 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:14,400 can't get in there. Backing back to the mid-state quote, 274 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:18,400 quote number three. Uh, this refeeds the entire site. It takes the power from 275 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:24,480 coming into the building, the large barn, and directs it to the well one 276 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:30,799 control building. This also provides power wiring and control wiring between 277 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:37,120 the VFDs, new power panels, and the new control panels. This also gets the new 278 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:42,400 power wiring to the 4 in booster pump. And one wrinkle of this by relocating 279 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:45,679 the VFDs into that control building. Um those VFDs put off a lot of heat and 280 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:50,799 that was the one nice thing about them in the basement. The basement was full. 281 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:55,919 So this boat also includes one large window AC unit to be installed 282 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:00,400 whichever window is the least intrusive to that installation. 283 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:05,600 That AC unit is required to keep the building conditioned. 284 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:10,640 Uh the mid-state quote does have some adders on the back page of it, some 285 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:15,840 alternates, but I we do not recommend electing any of those alternates. First 286 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:20,159 two are for BFD filters, which is a component you need at the motor. BFD are 287 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,159 far away from each other. They are literally right next to each other now. 288 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:29,760 So that's not required. Any other item just a different type of AC unit which 289 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:34,240 is going down. So in summary, quote number three from 290 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Midstate Electric is for labor and materials to get the electrical back up 291 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:43,760 to where it should be for this temporary solution. 292 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:47,000 » Yeah, I think it's primarily service. So worried about 293 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:51,080 there any questions? 294 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:59,760 » They're going to be at a height and still has to be moved later. They will 295 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:04,240 be. Yes, but all these improvements, installing the below grade wiring, we're 296 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:09,039 we're being intentional with those and those are going to be things that can be 297 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:13,120 reused. So, you know, provided that the plant doesn't pick up and move, we're 298 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:17,919 working with that site for a permanent solution, these improvements can be 299 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:23,159 rolled into Ben. So, we're not just stringing wire to take it down a year 300 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,159 from now, right? 301 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:36,400 Next quote we have is from Maxim Automation and this is for SCADA 302 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:41,279 temporary and permanent. What what do I mean by that? So Wesler 303 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:47,679 has been doing your programming for the past year or two couple years now. Um 304 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:51,452 and but Rob has the ability to kind of scap things together in a much more 305 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,840 weighted bench. >> [clears throat] 306 00:24:51,760 --> 00:25:00,240 » So part of Rob's quote, the maximum automation quote is to put together that 307 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:05,200 ad hoc control system and alarming system so that the guys in short order 308 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:10,720 and get some kind of communication out of them. It'll be limited alarms that'll 309 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:17,120 let them know when a tower level is low, when there's chlorine gas leak, the 310 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:21,760 critical things that we feel you should have your team alarm know. Um, so that's 311 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,760 » we don't have these things right now. >> Correct. Correct. So what do we have 312 00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:29,360 now? I think Ken shows up in the morning and turns it on and that is the only 313 00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:34,880 insight you have to how your water system. Only way we know what's in the 314 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:40,880 tower is by high pressure and run about 55 PSI. 315 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:46,240 That's when he knows he's getting so he's not overflow. 316 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,240 See what it so 317 00:25:50,480 --> 00:26:00,080 needless to say less than we are truly flying blind actually visit one of those 318 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:05,760 points it's missing far away from that boring alarms taking 319 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,080 place chlorine there is a chlorine alarm on the building 320 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:15,600 peerless treatment that there there There's an alarm on the 321 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,039 building now. The floor >> in that building. 322 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:25,919 » Yeah, the alarm's on the outside, but we have when the skate was put on, we know 323 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:29,840 when it was going. Kim did. >> The last quote here is to replace the 324 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:35,360 chlorine gas detector in the sensor unit that was submerged. It needs replace. So 325 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:42,559 once that's done and the controls part done, then that'll be up exactly where 326 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:47,039 it needs to be for safety. Yes. >> I've been told to run the alarm go. 327 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:53,360 » Yeah. You don't want to be around it. >> I don't hear it. I can't run. I can't 328 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:58,480 run anyway. [laughter] Just check. >> Only with number four. You're not there 329 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,880 yet. But the whole staff get >> No, these are great questions. Keep them 330 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,480 coming. >> That keeps me 331 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:08,720 » especially you know you got some vested interests. I see them. 332 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:13,600 So the first part is the temporary system to get you up as quick as 333 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:18,320 possible. Second part of this quote is to build your permanent control pan. 334 00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:22,720 That's the thing that was up in the first floor that got partially submerged 335 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:27,360 and yet that doesn't go well with electronics. Um so that's the other part 336 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:32,480 is providing that permanent control panel. And Rob's also included two days 337 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:37,919 for site start up and making sure everything's going the way it should. 338 00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:43,360 Uh Rob was on site I think within the first three or four days he was there 339 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:48,480 » surveying getting the things put together and understanding what makes 340 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:52,159 sense in terms of scope and supply. Uh I want you to know we went back and forth 341 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,240 a little bit with what Rob's scope was. He had some more items in there that 342 00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:00,559 were more clearly I'm just buying the material and we asked him to pull that 343 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:06,440 out and that's why you see a separate quote. We'll get to it just from 344 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,440 material spot. 345 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:14,279 There any questions about what this comes? 346 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:23,080 Do I really hate to say scale of things, but that's that's the that's the 347 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:28,799 So, if we don't do it, uh, what does this mean? 348 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,399 If we don't do the temporary system, that means we're running blind. That 349 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:37,039 means we're crossing our fingers every time they turn the pump on and walk away 350 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,840 from that site. There's a break. If there's a leak, we're not going to know 351 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:45,640 about it until it's uh same thing with the chlorine gas city. 352 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:57,320 » Keep running on generator. >> Yeah. Yeah. 353 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:57,320 » Well, the generator was number three. 354 00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:08,559 We're going to pay on the scope. Bob, do you have any concerns? 355 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,880 » No, not yet. >> Very good. 356 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:21,120 » All right, moving on to Wesler's quote number five. This is for more of the 357 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:25,440 permanent SCADA and the computer side of things. 358 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:30,159 So, this is your server. Uh Joe, that was that big black box we carried out 359 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:34,640 that day. Um your computers, your monitors, miscellaneous stuff that goes 360 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:38,799 with that. Re-uploading your programming, getting it all up and 361 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:45,279 running. I was really hoping to to catch you guys 362 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:50,480 uh before the meeting, but u one thing I wanted to to bring up was the 363 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:55,520 compensation for this one. We looked at what our fees were and we 364 00:29:52,799 --> 00:30:00,880 we cut them in half for this. So, I just want you guys to be aware um where we're 365 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,000 coming from and we appreciate working guys support. Do 366 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,640 » you know do you have a breakdown how much of that for Wesler is labor? How 367 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:14,080 much of it is material? >> Um the material cost ended up being 368 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:17,760 roughly $20,000 and the labor ended up being the balance of that. 369 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,640 » And how does that really compare with four? because it looks I'm a lay person. 370 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:24,799 Yeah, it's all computer stuff. >> It is. 371 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:30,080 » So, how is it distinguished? >> Yeah. So, uh our our quote provides 372 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:36,480 different things, right? Rob is building a control panel which is a permanent box 373 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:41,200 that's got computer brains in it, the human interface in it, the talking 374 00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:48,320 points from the other things in it. That is the control panel. What Wesler's 375 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:53,919 providing is the computer parts of it along with the server that the control 376 00:30:50,480 --> 00:31:00,000 panel talks to. So the server is what collects the signals from all the remote 377 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:06,000 sites and allows uh that to talk to the SCADA computer which then will talk to 378 00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:13,279 the PLC do that work to do the calculations and set new alarm. 379 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:18,960 » Okay. So where where is this? This will be also in in the control 380 00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:21,960 building. Well, one it's it's got to get full. 381 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:30,799 » How many hours is hours of CPS? How many hours? 382 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,679 » I think it's a 48. >> So, I'm not certain. I'm not certain. 383 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,880 No, >> I know it's at least 20 people. 384 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:46,159 Is there a justification that we can say you're doing with West Country on site 385 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:49,360 on hands helping us engineer these other items? Maybe 386 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,519 » uh there's there's a lot of efficiencies because all we're doing is is pressing 387 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,399 rebuild on all the equipment we've built for you in the past. 388 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:59,919 » So I think this is the first one that material outweighs the service. So 389 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,039 that's where I want to make sure that we justify not getting 390 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,480 » You should have left the other $10,000 in there and that would have balanced it 391 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 out better. 392 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:16,600 No good deal, huh? Is there internet service to the 393 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,600 building? 394 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:23,919 » Is there internet service to the building? 395 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:26,919 » Yes, there is. There will there's 396 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Wi-Fi. 397 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:48,880 I think for the the bid projects when we were in a similar situation um we were 398 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:54,039 written in as a professional service for those things that was a bigger dollar to 399 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,039 a bigger 400 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,399 » from timing standpoint 401 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:08,960 what would you take to get more >> well I I think with the circumstances 402 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:15,679 here with I think we can avoid the for that. 403 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:19,480 » And with the discount they're providing justify it to 404 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,080 » our hardware, we also do get discounts on that. Of course, that's all passed 405 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,000 through you. >> The biggest savings is the the spool up 406 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,480 time for someone else to come in. That may be a lot. 407 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:34,960 » How hard would it be for you to get somebody to do the same quote same 408 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,640 service that we all know is probably going to be more than yours anyway? Is 409 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,440 that going to be is that something you can get in a few days? Is that going to 410 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:46,000 be hard to get? >> I would have to call my competitors say, 411 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:49,760 "Can you get me a quote for this work?" So, I'm not sure. 412 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:55,720 » I'm not sure they would jump on that opportunity, Bob. 413 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,720 » I don't see that being a quick mission. 414 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:08,960 » Okay. So, I have a question. So, thing is 415 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:14,639 going in the political. >> Yes. 416 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:22,200 » Is there any attempt to mitigate the possibility of flood water 417 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200 still 418 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:32,119 to that short of install and putting up some kind of ad hoc 419 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,119 situation? 420 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:41,760 I think it's good for my eyes. >> That's that's true. Yeah. 421 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:46,480 » And and to that point, this is not the permanent fix, right? This is not the 422 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:52,720 solution forever. This is what work we need to do right away to get us as we 423 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:55,760 » some of that equipment will carry through 424 00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,880 used. >> Yes. the control panels, the BFDs, the 425 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:06,920 servers, the computers, a lot of the site wiring, the majority of the 426 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,920 equipment can be reused. 427 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,599 » Yes. 428 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:21,079 Any questions on Wesler proposal? 429 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Item number six is what I alluded to earlier and that is purely materials 430 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:35,200 purchase. This is purchasing the two VFDs 431 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:39,760 from BL Anderson. Um purchasing them through BL Anderson 432 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,240 through what's called their red carpet program which is like their preferred 433 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,599 emergency path for getting paid very quickly. 434 00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:50,960 As I mentioned earlier, Rob had this equipment on his quote but he was 435 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,520 looking at six weeks to get this equipment. 436 00:35:52,640 --> 00:36:00,240 That's the normal lead time we have by pursuing this program. Uh they have one 437 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:05,760 that they could bring to you tomorrow and the second one will be here in two 438 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:10,960 weeks. So going this avenue remarkably expedites the delivery time and it lets 439 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:17,280 you purchase direct avoid any kind of markup or 440 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:20,880 add to that. These drives can be reused. Um, the nice 441 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:27,200 thing about these drives is they're interchangeable. The ones outpart, so 442 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:30,599 all of your drives are the same size swapped around. 443 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,160 So this is for two VFDs. Probably the most straightforward of 444 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,160 them. Questions. 445 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:48,560 » I initially was concerned on both six and seven because they are for product. 446 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:52,960 Yeah. and and but because of the relatively nominal amount involved even 447 00:36:51,280 --> 00:37:00,079 though quotes are preferred they're not legally required so we can also is that 448 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:03,480 threshold I think it's 15 okay >> just made it 449 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:10,960 number six last but not least is number seven 450 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:16,480 that's from Living Waters they do your boring on the back page now this is for 451 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:21,520 labor and materials Uh so the labor is to install your 452 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:26,160 permanent booster pump and get the gas detector working and that that's why 453 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:30,480 this is a proposal that work hasn't been done yet. That's something that Paul at 454 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:34,320 Waters will come in and do that on execution. 455 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,160 We'll also install the chlorine gas sensor. So that'll replace all your gas 456 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,000 protection equipment since it was flooded and that'll get that plugged 457 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:47,040 into SCADA. So you'll get alarms. Jim knows it's not moving his house. I move 458 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:50,720 for this to be agreed to [laughter] just 459 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,920 be hard to get another quote for six and seven. 460 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:59,599 » I don't know anyone else in the states that does this work 461 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:04,960 » for either one of them. >> Which one? I said for six and seven. 462 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:09,920 For six, it would be very difficult to get what's an equivalent quote. You 463 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:15,119 know, it to ask someone to give us two BFDs in two weeks, it's going to take me 464 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,720 two weeks to get the quotes. >> So, they would be the only one that 465 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:23,920 could meet that kind of spec. >> Yeah. If we were to issue an RFP to say 466 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:28,119 we want BFDs delivered in two weeks, that's the only Okay. 467 00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:37,680 Um, oh, back to the living waters. They also included a temporary booster pump. 468 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,359 This is something that we both felt was important. First line on there, this is 469 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,920 a booster pump that Joe could plug into a wall outlet if something happened. 470 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:50,240 That was the strategy to get us back in operation the first time. So, we're 471 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:56,440 going to wire in the permanent one, but let him keep the one that's on site 472 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,440 plugged in now based on appetite. 473 00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:02,040 And that's for just under 6,000. 474 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:17,240 » Those are the scoops. Any questions? 475 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:25,160 » Yeah, but we knew this was trouble. 476 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:34,480 I mean Adam and I have talked and really this is this is what we have to do so we 477 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:38,760 can monitor the water system and it operates the winch water 478 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:47,760 » but anyway that'll do us anything you do have this cash in your water fund 479 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:53,040 now it could have ramifications on future projects but along that 480 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:58,480 conversation I have had some discussion with 481 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:05,760 some folks from the county and told me talking to some of you that we're going 482 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:10,160 to the water tower uh project on a hold for now for at least 30 days uh because 483 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:15,359 we have to figure out where we're at here before we can even consider doing 484 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:20,320 more out there because we're going to spend a lot of funds here and if we have 485 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:25,599 to do a whole new water plant or whatever that's more debt that I I think 486 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:30,960 we all we don't want to take on. So I did tell 487 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:34,640 them and I've talked to Baker Tilly and told them and said they're not going to 488 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:40,720 be here this this meeting. So 489 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:47,920 I'm glad I felt that was necessary to do based on where we're at here. One bright 490 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:51,119 spot, we were able to get the ARPA fund. At some point they'll be turned over to 491 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,280 us back from SRF. >> Thank you. And that was that was about 492 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,960 $225,000. Unfortunately, it doesn't cover all of 493 00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:01,520 this, but it takes a great chunk out of them. 494 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:08,079 » So, whenever those funds get released back over, haven't heard back from yet. 495 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:10,720 I'll check in with them today. >> How do we know? 496 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,520 » I don't know what the mechanism looks like, Sherry. I sure hope they don't 497 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,560 mail you a check. >> Um, but I'll figure that out. I'll let 498 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:21,359 you guys know. >> When I sent that off to them, I got a 499 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,119 email back. said they would be out till next week. So 500 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,200 » yeah, >> it's only Thursday. So I don't think it 501 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,920 was >> I'll call them tomorrow and then 502 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:37,359 » it does. It does. And further bright spot that money was earmarked to spend 503 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,200 » on this. No, it was to move some things up, but it was still to take care of 504 00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:44,000 this site. And I don't know who would have wanted 505 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:49,440 to move forward with the scope of that project knowing what we know now. So 506 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,560 it is nice that we had that money to fall back on it. 507 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,440 » Did you move it up and still get flooded? 508 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,680 » Yeah, it would have. >> Where we were planning to move it 509 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:03,680 wouldn't have fixed any of you know our plan was to move the stuff in the 510 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:07,599 building would have been flooded. No questions asked. The generator platform 511 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,599 would have been built to the 100redyear flood plus two feet. And from the 512 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,680 pictures I saw, it would have still gotten still gotten hot, 513 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:21,280 » which puts us in a very interesting position down the road, what is our 514 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:25,200 design basis? Is it a hundred-year flood or is it a foot over US40 because we all 515 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,960 just saw >> may tell us that 516 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,960 » and they might Yes. 517 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:39,319 I know your plan was built just what two years ago it was built up stage and it 518 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:48,800 » when I hear people talking about 500 or thousand years that doesn't surprise me. 519 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:53,359 » So Adam are you know if we move forward this are you thinking six weeks to 520 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:58,240 » I think so. >> Yep. In a perfect world times fall 521 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:03,160 through all the way we're expecting. I think six weeks for completion. No 522 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:12,240 » bad. >> As monumental as what happened to happen 523 00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:15,599 six weeks is >> not that shabby. 524 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:19,839 » Not a permanent fix, but everything will be working properly and all the safety 525 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,079 mechanism. [clears throat] >> So, we need a motion for each of these 526 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,160 or can we do them all in one? You can do it either way. If you're comfortable, a 527 00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:32,400 motion to approve these seven expenditures would be appropriate. 528 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:36,319 Unless if somebody had some problems with one or the other, then I'd want you 529 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,800 to do it individually. But absent a problem with any one of them, then I 530 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:46,000 would say it's okay to make motion second approval of all seven of these 531 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,880 items. I'll make a motion that we approve the 532 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:55,240 seven expenditures to get waters uh system relocation back up. 533 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,280 » That's an amount of $245,675. 534 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,800 » All in favor? >> I 535 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:13,000 get everyone after this. I'll get some signatures and take care. 536 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:21,079 signature. >> It's seven. Seven signature. 537 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,720 » Is that it for you? >> That's everything. 538 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,400 » Sure. That's enough. >> Do you want more? 539 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,400 » No, that's enough. 540 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,839 » All right. Um I don't want to ignore you. 541 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,839 » That's your talk. Are you 542 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:48,119 » Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to do that. Okay. 543 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:59,640 Think we can talk. >> Yeah, we we spoke briefly. 544 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:08,640 There some discussion. So I think it's something offline best 545 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:12,000 way about I don't know what this is but be happy 546 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,319 to help. [laughter] I'll let you know. 547 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,880 » Okay. Bigger type of co. 548 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:23,599 » All right. Mike, anything you getting tired of hole 549 00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:28,720 yet? [clears throat] >> I am. 550 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:34,160 » This week or next week? This ends this week. 551 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,599 » They can do whatever they want to do. >> Is do I need to contact numbers? You can 552 00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:42,560 pick them all up. >> I I can do all that's that's not a 553 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:47,440 problem. I I don't know that we want to completely shut down, but I think we're 554 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,200 gonna change the footprint. Now, >> what do you think we need to do? 555 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:56,160 » Just one dumpster out. >> I think we need to scale it back and I 556 00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,319 don't know what the legal ramifications are of people coming on our property 557 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:06,880 city property to load things into dumpster. If someone's heard something 558 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:10,960 there, have to have somebody there. I don't know what particularism Yeah. 559 00:46:10,682 --> 00:46:17,359 [clears throat] >> So, Irish community 560 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:20,880 and assembly. >> Troy, I'm assuming you want us to leave 561 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,079 out there. Well, I just I just have some things we need to figure out. And that's 562 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:28,079 the first one is that, you know, hope you can put things out the street and 563 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:32,640 get your stuff. People have done a good job of that. Um, where are we going to 564 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,800 take things that are still coming out of buildings and 565 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,640 » things are going to be coming out of buildings for months? 566 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:42,560 » Yeah, I understand that. right now. How long is the town responsible for that? 567 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:46,640 » That's the question that we need to decide. But but we need to put something 568 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,400 out there for that. And other thing too that I'm concerned about because we 569 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:53,680 spent the last three weeks being on the streets picking things up, working at 570 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,400 the site. That's why it was late here at night because we got some buildings and 571 00:46:55,359 --> 00:47:01,680 they're for it is we have groups of people that are still coming in from out 572 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:06,240 of town. Our homage group that was 40 people that 573 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,240 are inside homes now taking stuff out. got another group of 30 over the 574 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:14,160 weekend. If we were going to scale it back, that's fine to some degree. But if 575 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:18,079 we're going to still offer that, let's change the hours in which we offer it 576 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,040 and realize that we have people that are doing their own homes that have to go 577 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:24,319 back to work. They may still have stuff that needs to go. We have a couple 578 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,720 buildings that are technically town buildings. Um the concession stand still 579 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:34,000 hasn't had a wall removed in it or the ceiling removed in it for the uh CC Y. 580 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,359 Um the scouting I don't think has anything's come out of the scouting. We 581 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:41,280 understand that that's different because we are responsible for that. 582 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,480 » So we don't mind paying for that. But we don't mean we have to pay forever for 583 00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:47,680 everybody. >> Correct. I'm just saying of things that 584 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,079 I that I look at and see. The other thing too is you I have a concern of 585 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,079 have we identified all the buildings that are in town that haven't been 586 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,839 touched. >> Yeah. 587 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,440 » Because that's one of my biggest concerns is that we have a lot of Joe's 588 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,960 been fighting this for a year. through some of these vacant absentee owners. 589 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,319 They've got a building next to somebody that's trying to get their building 590 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,760 back. Hasn't been touched. The basement still may have water in it. The house 591 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,440 may still be growing mold. And it's the house right next to it. So, I have a 592 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:17,200 concern of that after three weeks of opening up some freezers and 593 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,400 refrigerators. What that smell looks like. What does it look like in a month 594 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,359 or two months? Um, the other thing I want everyone just to realize is that 595 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,440 homeowners have come in or people have come in and they've removed items where 596 00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:31,599 they thought they were good and a week later mold is showing up and they're 597 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:35,280 having to remove even more items. So that's the round that we're experiencing 598 00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:40,559 right now. We've come back to some of these houses three times, taking drywall 599 00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:43,839 material out the first second time, coming back now a third time because 600 00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:47,440 more stuff is still continued to come out. If we're gonna shut it off, we 601 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,000 definitely need to say we're going to shut it off and give our residents at 602 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:55,680 least some time to understand that and be sensitive to all the help that the 603 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,280 church is still coordinating getting to come in. The last thing we want is to 604 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:03,040 have 30 people show up to help do things. They're doing things and they 605 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,480 don't know any better than just put it out on the street. So, we've got to 606 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,960 coordinate that at least. >> Well, obviously it'll beated and I I 607 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:15,359 think we just need to figure out what >> Jim from a technical legal standpoint. 608 00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:18,640 It sounds harsh, but a property owner is responsible for removal of their own 609 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:23,040 stuff and to take it to an appropriate place. Now, having said that, I know the 610 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:26,720 town has volunteered, but the citizens need to know that everything you're 611 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:30,160 doing is a nice gesture of what the town is doing as compared to that you have a 612 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:35,280 legal responsibility. >> Yeah. And my understanding there there 613 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:40,160 likely will be some funds recovered by the town. So, 614 00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:43,520 » but we don't know. But we don't do that. >> We don't. 615 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,520 » And the last thing about that is there are some buildings where homeowners have 616 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:53,200 set stuff out out of the street. They're at random spots in their yard. How are 617 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:57,040 we going to treat that from a, you know, a town perspective of that debris 618 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:01,440 setting out there? How are we going to get them to remove that? Is it going to 619 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,760 end up falling back on us, Bob, because they're an absentee owner? 620 00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:09,920 And if so, we need to make sure that we have some coordinated effort, whether 621 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:13,359 volunteers or staff or somebody that that's going to take that, you know, 622 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,480 take that role on because the last thing we want is this stuff sitting here two 623 00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:20,079 months from now. >> Yeah. If you took it to an extreme, even 624 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:23,920 that kind of litter, it could get to a point of making it an unsafe property 625 00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:28,960 that the town can go through all that process and ultimately get any of its 626 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:32,480 own cost back through taxes if it ever breaks on a tax sale. But those are 627 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,599 things you have to we're going to have to approach each step 628 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,359 » additional help to that with this number of problems. I mean if it gets to that 629 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,800 we're not going to be able to put that on our public 630 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:52,720 » I mean we're we're trying we're doing our best in the gesture. Okay we're 631 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:56,880 doing this but again what Bob just said I've said it for the last two weeks. It 632 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:00,880 is the homeowner's responsibility to take care of their home. It is not the 633 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:06,319 town responsibility. Everybody has stepped up in town. There's no doubt 634 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:13,920 talking to these other people not from town and they come here and they want to 635 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:17,040 I mean but we cannot hold their hand continuous. They've got to take that 636 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,920 step up and take responsibility for their own actions and their own 637 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:23,920 property. This is just going to continue. I'd be 638 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:30,640 perfectly willing to help out, you know, going forward, but this idea of going to 639 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:35,680 be down there for 60 hours a week. >> Yeah, 640 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,040 » we've moved over a 100 dumpsters now. Those are 641 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,680 » So, how much >> how much slowed down? I mean, how much 642 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,480 could we >> pretty? Yeah, it slowed down quite a 643 00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:50,319 bit. I mean, it was heavy a week. >> We were like just constant. Today, we 644 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:55,839 only got four to now. We had a four full sitting there that need to be called out 645 00:51:52,160 --> 00:52:00,400 morning. I've contacted the rum and best way about that. There'll be somebody out 646 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,920 there tomorrow morning out there. But and I guess the perspective too for that 647 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,359 Mike is that we have very few items just sitting on the ground with some 648 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,359 exceptions oneoff things and some appliances. Everything that's come in 649 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,640 the last two days has gone into a dumpster. 650 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,400 » Yep. >> So that's that's a real good site. And 651 00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:20,559 and drove around you noticed that the streets are somewhat bare. The only only 652 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:24,160 caveat to that is there's a lot of chemicals sitting there and I'm still 653 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:28,720 not sure picking up chemicals the way we pick them up and putting them in a in a 654 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,319 dumpster is is the best way to get rid of those chemicals. 655 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,760 » Yeah. >> So, 656 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,880 » they are separated out from everything else though. 657 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:41,280 » Yeah. But they're still in a line. >> They're in a online dumpster. They have 658 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:44,079 intermixed of chemical contaminations with them. Then you're be your own 659 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,760 chemist. >> Yeah. Go that. We we haven't at least 660 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,599 the groups that I've worked with for the last two and a half, three weeks, we 661 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:55,599 haven't really picked up any chemicals. We've left those, you know, at the 662 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,160 roadside, but that is going to be something either we have to publish 663 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:04,400 something from the town. >> I'll follow up on that. I'm sorry. 664 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:08,319 » I even worry about putting, you know, I didn't put uh heater, I didn't pick up 665 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:13,680 heater, but I thought it had gas still in it because I didn't want to throw 666 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:18,520 that into a general or appliance thing. But there is a lot of chemicals that are 667 00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:18,520 out there. 668 00:53:26,916 --> 00:53:34,400 [laughter] Yeah, I I don't but I know we have got 669 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:42,040 we're probably pushing a million 1.4 million pounds. 670 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,040 We just had a dumpster yesterday go up. 671 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:51,200 » So So and I said we've done over a 100 dumpsters now. So 672 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,480 » and just in volume and scale that doesn't include everything that's been 673 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:57,760 taken off by private >> or that have transfer. We don't have a 674 00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:01,359 transfer station yet. 675 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:07,960 » So that transfer number is still coming back to us as well. 676 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,960 » That's pretty good. 677 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,559 » Deb, you got anything? >> No, I don't. 678 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:19,480 » Jim King, >> no. Bob, 679 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480 » no. 680 00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:28,960 Uh we did have the community impact award that we got for the pavilion from 681 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:35,480 the county chamber >> and uh 682 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,480 » we get like money or something 683 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:45,880 » but it was nice to recognize what the impact that has to our community. 684 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:56,359 All right for Jim already checked 685 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,359 all in favor.